Crime in Sports - #235 - Bear Claws & Oral - The Expansiveness of Charles Barkley

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

This week, we cozy up to a buffet of wild times, with a man who is world famous, successful as can be, and absolutely pulls no punches, both physically, and verbally. He was an Olympic champion, an NBA MVP, and even a longtime tv personality. But make no mistake, he will wrestle you away from a cop, so he can throw you through a plate glass window, with very thought about it. He did it all, and told about it all, now we get our chance to talk about it! Be an Olympic champion, appear as yourself in "Space Jam", and punch all your problems away with Charles Barkley!!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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where you're not like oh that guy said that it's one of those things it's charles barkley tremendous it's charles barkley everybody so i mean he's still he never shuts the fuck up he's always talking yeah which is fine you can talk all you want he's got a lot of opinions a lot of opinions and he's done a lot of dumb shit yeah for a guy that's done as this is the thing that's funny for me is for a guy who's done as much dumb shit as he's done he has a lot of opinions about other people's conduct which is hilarious to me you need an idea how fucking famous charles barkley is and was oh yeah the man was he he went to dinners with madonna oh yeah he's a big deal he's a international superstar i mean especially

after two dream teams and space jam and everything else when when larry bird retired there was michael jordan and charles barkley they were one and two charles barkley and michael jordan that that's why the 92 93 finals were so amazing because that was like it was them that was the magic bird of the 2000s that type of thing and they only got to do it once, though, unfortunately. Nineties, early. Yeah. Early nineties, eighties. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, Charles Barkley is an interesting fella and he has been around a long time. But the things like I said, he he's a very he alternates between being like kind of like I don't want to use the word progressive, but sort of progressive. And then at the other side, he'll start doing pull up your pants in the next breath. Next breath, he'll tell someone to pull up their pants. And if you don't pull them up, I'll make you drop them and I'll give you a whooping in public. He'll literally grab a stick and smack you. Well, he will. And we'll talk about that because he's done worse than that.

And this is going to be a ball because his unapologeticness is hilarious, at least for an episode like this. Even when he's wrong. But that's the thing. Love him or hate him, here it is. And full disclosure, I will say this. As a child growing up, Charles Barkley was my favorite basketball player. He meant everything to me. Head and shoulders above anybody.

He was my favorite. To me, Jordan was, I mean mean as a player you know a better all-around player i don't think there's much debate there but not in all aspects obviously i mean charles will out rebound the shit out of him and score as much as he wants when he wants to but certainly out comment him definitely jordan's a different type of player but to me jordan was the he was the squeaky clean yeah he was the the like Mike right with a bunch of little kids following him and all that shit like we were teenagers when that was going on yeah we were teenagers when that was going on that wasn't like I don't I'm not a little kid chasing after Michael

Jordan like fuck him you know what I mean like everybody wants to be like no no Barkley's punching people and then being like yeah I punched him fuck you and I'm like that that that's better I like that. Which is shot, and they couldn't get, I imagine they couldn't get Barkley because he was already deep-seated into Phoenix, and they ended up getting Rodman, which is essentially the,

as close as they could get to Barkley. Yeah, it's Barkley that doesn't want to score. There you go, Barkley without a shot. Because you couldn't have another guy like, another guy that wants the ball on that team. It wouldn't have worked out. So you had to have, Rodman was the perfect guy because he never wanted the ball, which was like, oh, great.

We don't even have to pass it to him. We don't have to even pretend he's on the team on offense. And then he'll go get it on defense and give it right back to you. That's perfect. He's the perfect guy for that. But Charles Barkley here. So, yeah, I always give full disclosure. If I either was a huge fan of someone or hate someone,

any bias that you might hear is going to come from. Sorry. Yeah. Growing up is my favorite. I had a shoes. I was my guy. So Charles Wade Barkley. Wade.

Wade. Did I not know that? No, I don't think I did. I didn't know that at all. That's awful. Interesting. Born. Charles Wade.

Wade. Yeah. He sounds like a railroad worker. Like bogs yeah yeah strange he's born february 20th 1963 that's why he sounds like he's getting older because he's getting older right uh he's from leeds alabama yes that's where he is from now growing up life was not easy for charles his mother's name by the way this this isn't what makes his life not easy but his mother's name is charcy oh charcy charcy okay c-a-o-c-h-a-r-c-e-y charcy fascinating okay so charcy uh charcy's tough yeah charcy charcy is uh a strong strong person here now the his father

chuck's father here and a lot of rebound a lot of uh nicknames for charles barkley by the way the round mound of rebound there's a hundred yeah there's so fucking many ran deep they ran deep when you have a personality most of them have to do with him being fat fat and good at basketball because they had to encompass both yeah he wasn't just fat it doesn't make sense that he's as good as he is it makes when you watch some of the things he does athletically you're like well what the scientifically that shouldn't happen no no no he that's the thing you look at charles and he looks like a certain type of player but dude was athletic as shit he

ran the court like a deer he'd fucking dunk over people he was was nasty, man. Very nasty. So his dad ran out pretty early, like, you know, before he was a toddler. As an infant, his dad took off and moved to California. So, I mean, I don't blame him moving to California, but take the kids, take the wife and kid with you, why don't you? He just took off, as a matter of fact. But Charcy, you know, she stood by here and was a single mom. Anything, everything like that. She was a house cleaner and, you know, clean houses during the day and then would have her kids at night. And her mother worked in a meatpacking factory and was also in a beauty salon.

They all kind of were in the same household. Charcy's mom? Pitching in on the bills. Really? Charcy's mom was, yeah, a meat packing beautician oh boy which is uh yeah why does my hair smell like pork chops wash your hands next what happened yeah that's what it was though they didn't have a lot of money at all yeah obviously that's a tough tough going that lets you know exactly how much money uh hairdressers make when she has to have a second

job at a meatpacking well that was her that was her second job was at the beauty salon she made most of her money from the meatpacking and then she'd do a few things yeah a little bit here and there to make a couple extra bucks not easy it's tough out there they said that uh government cheese was pretty pretty rampant here a lot of a lot of bologna and cheese sandwiches for dinner was the deal with Chuckster there. Well, maybe once he got some food in him, he just wanted to. And we'll talk about it. But once they have a couple of bucks, at least to be a little more comfortable, he eats like a horse. That's like it's all he's been wanting to do is eat.

It feels like this seems to be a lot of things. is eat yeah so it's one of these feels like this seems to be a lot of things like if a kid doesn't eat a lot and then all of a sudden you really unload on him like right when he's like going through puberty like they hit a growth spurt like you have to fuel at the right times yeah maybe we're feeding our kids too early too much too early too much too early maybe we hold back till i don't know how it works scientifically i'm far from a as soon as you find the formula let me know because i'd like to work that out with my kid and get him into sports. There you go. Make some money at this.

Let's do it. So apparently, Charsey ended up meeting a man and that things worked out well. A man named Clee Glenn. And they ended up getting married. And so there was more of a family structure, which things got a lot better for Charles and everything like that. They, Charsey and Klee, would have two more sons named Daryl and John. And so, yeah, there was that John Glenn, by the way, is his brother's name. Hilarious.

Which is pretty fucking funny. How many kids are in this house? Three. Okay. So it's Charles and the two boys and mom and dad or mom and stepdad. And I don't know if grandma still lives there or not, but who knows? So I would assume so. She probably does.

But they had a one bedroom apartment for a long time. That was the problem. So you're cramming all these people in a one bedroom apartment. Yeah. Which is not comfortable. And the kid the size of Charles. Yeah. He's a thick kid.

Charles is always a thick kid. And the problem here, things are going well though the family starts to get a little bit better until in the mid-1970s uh clee his stepdad is killed in a car accident so charles i mean that sucks man your dad runs off in for losing yeah and this this i mean not to get too psychological about it but this this kind of explains a lot this will embitter a young child oh and two on dads yeah that's what i mean dad left now there's this guy oh he's great i depend on this and then you're 10 11 years old and he's dead too right you kind of get a thing well fuck you you know what i mean well i don't know people die anyway fuck it also fathers are temporary and a lot of things and it just gives you just a certain veneer you have to

put over yourself now because you're not going to let yourself be hurt again you know what i mean whether it's by life or death or whatever the fuck it is so this also plays into later on in life that's a fascination because you think he would admire women more than he does that's that's a thing yeah especially with his mom right yeah and as strong as she is and his grandma too that's the thing yeah yeah strong women around him he was 11, being as strong as she is and his grandma, too. That's the thing, yeah, strong women around him. He was 11 years old at the time. So, I mean, he's 11, and there's two little brothers, too, that are younger than him. So, you know, Chuck is kind of the, he's got to sort of be the man of the house here.

Tough stuff. Yeah, and apparently, though, Charcy never breaks down. Everybody says Charcy's strong as shit. The mother, her mom lives there. breaks down everybody says charlie's strong as shit uh the mother she her mom lives there she's got three sons in the house and she just uh you know pushes through works her ass off and tries to put her kids through school charles as kind of a just a something to to take his attention something for his energy finds basketball and also uh the dinner table as well because he starts putting on a few pounds but he starts getting into basketball now around this time after the stepdad dies and everything like

that and uh yeah charles he goes to leeds high school as a junior this is another thing that we've seen repeatedly as a junior he's five foot ten really 5 10 wow he's 5 10 and weighed 220 that's a big so he's just a fat kid yeah that's it he's just a fat fat kid playing about you wouldn't look at him and go well he's gonna be an nba star you go look at that little fat guy that's two inches and 40 pounds on me that's crazy yeah that's a lot that's a lot but i mean 5 10 is not a big guy no and it's we saw it with scotty pipp. We saw it with Dennis Rodman, where they were not anything physically at all, and then just late growth spurt hit, and they were able to work with that. He doesn't make the varsity team.

He's named as a reserve on the team. As a junior. As a junior. He's only 5'10, 220. You're not exactly. What position are you playing? Yeah 220 you're not exactly what position are you playing yeah you're not gonna power forward no people just go right over you and take it or you're not going to be fast enough to be a guard i wouldn't think at 5 10 220 forward

at best then you better have a hell of a shot from the outside or something too and and be able to get it over the people who are much taller than you that will be guarding you because that's or just have a uh a thirst uh thirst hunger what am i trying to find hunger or thirst wistman uh for rebounds yeah but people just take them right over you because you're so tiny you can't even when he's in the nba he's shorter than everybody as we'll talk about that's rebounding but he's still closer if you're 5 10 and 220 that's going to be very difficult so during during the summer, though, of his junior, between junior and senior year, he grew to 6'4. That was fast. And that's growth spurts.

We saw that with everybody. Oh, that's got to hurt. I grew eight inches in the summer. Really? Fuck yeah. Between 13 and 14, I grew eight inches in the summer. Sweet Jesus. Not pleasant.

Not a pleasant experience. Yeah, that hurt, man. Let me tell you something. Every party, it hurts. It's not experience. Yeah. That hurt, man. Let me tell you something. Every party it hurts. It's not good. I'm still recovering from it. What would hurt worse? Doing that or quote unquote having your shins sectioned to be shorter?

To be shorter? If you don't know what we're talking about, the Patreon bonus episode last week had the craziest attempt at a scam in the history of private sports. But the balls it took to tell it right that's it you have to hear that episode just to hear the balls in these scams it's so fucking amazing that episode i don't know what should hurt worse doing that or that i don't know but yeah it's six oh my god so yeah i went from like five eight to six four and he went from five ten to six four so i get it the same thing and i dreamed of it i'm so glad i'm gonna wake up and be taller i swear i

know it so this is and by the way in his career barkley is always listed at six foot six yeah he is not six foot six six four he is six foot fucking four yeah i know this because I've met Charles Barkley and we are the exact same height. I'm talking we are fucking eye to eye exactly the same height. They stretch him to make you feel like they're doing something you can't do. They've got to. Well, they list him as taller because people don't think he's short then. 6'6 sounds better than 6'4 is a power forward. And just in school school they always do

that they'll list people taller just so the other team doesn't key in on him being short okay that's basically what you do fascinating it's a work that they do it all the time yeah they do in football too but also him being that size made uh uh mark west look so much bigger at 610 that's what i mean yeah so i mean he says he's 6'6 and And if he was 6'6", what he accomplishes rebounding-wise would be incredible at 6'6". At 6'4", it's not incredible. It's otherworldly. It's mind-blowing. It's alien.

Yeah. It's not. We'll find out. He's the only guy ever to do it. So, as we'll find out, his rebounding at his size, no one else does it like that in the history of the NBA. It's that big, fat ass, man. It's that big fat ass, man. It's a big fat ass and a 45-inch vertical jump.

That'll help. He comes in, he'll bump you, and then he can jump over you too. And he wants it. He's another guy that has a, he wants it more than you. It's like a Rodman thing. So anyway, he ends up making the varsity squad as a senior. As he comes back 6'4", they're like, that's better. We'll take him.

We'll take him now. He can at least clear people out of the paint with that you know big fat ass is so he averages 19.1 points and 17.9 rebounds a game points and rebounds in high school nearly 20 yeah to both almost 20 and 20 that. Yeah. And leads his team to a 26 and 3 record. And they go to the state semifinals. So not bad. Pretty good. But the problem is college scouts notice you before your senior year. It's a bit late.

And then they look at you through your senior year. So they might have just heard of him, but he didn't really get on anybody's radar enough. Those people were already being recruited until the state high school semifinals game they lost actually he scored 26 points against i guess uh the university of alabama's biggest recruit he's like the number one recruit in the state a guy named bobby lee hurt and chuck dominated him and so they were like auburn university went well shit we play alabama a lot and uh we sure use that guy we like to beat him and if that guy's gonna be their main guy our guy could dominate him we might be able to beat him all right so they did they said shit let's take a look at this head coach sonny smith was

at the game and he said that he saw this is amazing he saw quote a fat guy who can play like the wind god that hurts i mean i mean is it good or is it bad that hurts so bad i don't even know uh fat guy i mean he knows he's fat yeah there's no doubt about that but he can play like the wind i guess that's the important part so barkley got recruited he majors in business management while he goes to auburn and uh yeah he's listed at 66 252 he's less than one of those and more than the other i'll get a lot i'll i'll get let you guess which one he is less than and which one he is more he's more than 252 abso-fucking-lutely really 250 oh yeah he's well over that is a lot right that's a lot i mean oliver miller was playing at like 310 but oliver miller had a

different chuck is built different. Yeah. Chuck is thick. Yeah. He's all around thick. Everywhere. Even as he gets older, his head is fatter. He gets fat in multiple places.

His legs are big. His shins are big. He's got big fucking ankles. It's like his body knows how to proportion the Taco Bell throughout his body. It's the way it is. His ass is fucking big. It is. And it's solid, too. And it's round. It's not just like a big fat ass he's got a big

bubble ass that he he uses he wields it as a weapon he does some people you'll see it with a lot of sports some people who are built heavier where you look at them in street clothes and go that guy's not that you know not built very well or not that athletic and they're fucking athletes it's just a weird thing offensive lineman like that you see a guy's 300 pounds yeah and he could run a cone drill and you're like how the fuck does he do that it's amazing yeah it's incredible they can dance and shit yeah so weird so he goes to college he goes to auburn and uh weight is a problem always uh. Every year they kind of break his balls about weight, but he plays so well, what are they going to say? He leads the SEC in rebounding every year he's there.

So that's his job and he does it. So they don't know what else to do. And the crowd fucking loves him. He's a really exciting player. Now if you're younger and you just see him as an announcer, you're like, oh just see him as an announcer you're like oh this old man right as a fucking player though he was a real he was a force he would disrupt things he was just one of those guys and he was a good shot blocker in college too he would from behind he'd chase

people down he's one of those guys and sneak behind you he wasn't tall enough to do it straight straight face to face right but he could jump and get the right angle on you that's awesome and do it because he's my favorite block that's the best block so cool it's so neat here it is oh shit pinned it to the glass he would dunk and block shots and um yeah i mean people the fact that he was shorter and fat people loved it was like that fat guy just dunked on everybody so he you know would uh a lot of times he would take it to get a defensive rebound and just take it all the way down the court go dunk on somebody yeah so that was like fuck that's exciting yeah people enjoyed it and they called him the round mound of rebound that's where he earned it and also in college the crisco kid oh there's another name for him really yeah oh that one's terrible

that's a bad one that's so mean that's That's rough. That's fucking rough, man. Oh, my God. It's a pun of a bad guy. Yeah. And then that. And that. But he's averaging, senior year, he averages 15.1 points, nine and a half rebounds a game. So pretty goddamn good.

Now, later on, he will say, he will admit that people he got money in college as he fucking should have sure as everybody who plays major college athletics should i don't feel i wouldn't feel bad about that at all right especially and you're charles barkley and probably the the most i don't know sought after guy from auburn ever yeah probably right that's what i mean they wanted him and they ended up paying him because they had to unless he'd leave so they uh this was when the whole reggie bush scandal came out reggie bush his mom got a house or something she had to give back his heisman right it's like um unless he paid unless usc played paid people not to tackle him right i don't give a fuck where his mom lives or if somebody brought a turkey sandwich to his grandma and a son i don't care

i don't care what they paid him he's he he didn't get tackled and got in the end zone therefore heisman trophy the rest of that shit's irrelevant right you know what i'm saying if they gave him like some sort of uh i don't know uh sure asu and ucla all those people would love for him not to have scored that's what i mean yeah they they oh, no, he won that Heisman. Everyone he played against knows he won it, so it's weird. So Chuck says, quote, if a guy wants to borrow money from an agent because he's poor, what is wrong with that? Nobody can tell me what is wrong with that. I got money from agents when I was in college, and I went in the 80s.

Most of the players I know borrowed money from agents. The colleges don't give us anything. If they give us a pair of sneakers, they get in trouble. Why can't an agent lend some money and I'll pay him back when I graduate? Yeah, exactly. Why not? And that's not even the college paying. That's not even the college.

It's literally a private business transaction between him and somebody else. There's nothing to fucking do with college. The only problem that I have with that is... The agents I have a problem with. People getting taken advantage of and charged interest of some ungodly rate. Well, not only that, they get their hooks in these kids

and some of the kids are a little more innocent and they don't know that they're not locked into this person. I helped you when you didn't have shit. Yeah, so... But, I mean, otherwise, it's a... What's different than that or if there's a goddamn tent set up at a college pitching the Discover card to kids? What's the fucking difference?

No difference. There is none. No. You're totally, like, you can go get eight credit cards, that's no problem. That's horrible. But a fucking agent wants to, I don't know, it's the same shit to me. Either way, they have the opportunity to ruin their life. Yeah, that's what I mean.

That's whatever. A guy like Charles Barkley, though, he knows he's going to make the nba rebound and like he rebounds so he ends up becoming later on he'll become a member of auburn's all century team and still holds the record for career field goal percentage at auburn with 62.6 yeah so not too shabby good players came from auburn though in basketball right i feel like there's been like six or ten i can't think of a lot that came out charles is definitely the best that's what i mean he also was the southeastern conference player of the year in 1984 and a second team all-american selection as well and he's later named sec player of the decade for the 1980s by the birmingham post herald this is pretty fucking funny talking about uh getting paid to

go to college or it's easier for the athletes he was on i think it was tnt and ernie ernie johnson said auburn is a pretty good school to graduate from there i suppose you really need to work hard and put forth maximum effort barkley said 20 points and 10 rebounds will get you through also that's why you gotta like charles barkley you know what i'm saying i can do shit except for on the court he'll scam shit and then be like i scam the fuck out of that shit you can decide whether you like it or not like that's kind of funny to me i don't know 20 points i mean that'll do it too so 1984 olympics now this is pre-dream team dream team wasn't until 92 it was in 84 because 88 was

soul soul 84 is la la yeah so barkley is invited to try out for the team by bobby knight who was the coach of the team now picture bobby knight and charles barkley oh my that does not seem like a good mix right there we're gonna also get a boxing match yeah that's what i mean yeah one of them's throwing a chair at the other one i'm sorry it. It's happening. It's like Reggie Jackson and Billy Martin in the same dugout. That didn't work. WWF wrestling in the Olympics. There will be suplexes. That's a new one.

Does that count for anything? He just suplexed his fucking coach. I don't think that's right. He made it all the way to the final cuts, but then he's not selected for the team. Offensively, he outplayed the shit out of a lot of the front court guys but uh bobby knight said that he was cut because of poor defense oh yeah uh chuck person said charles barkley was standing out more than anyone and uh wayman tisdale said the one uh the one that's this is before for the cuts the one that sticks out is

charles barkley the way he's able to move move around 284 pounds like a guard is amazing. 284, by the way. Right, sure. Listed at 252. That's the actual weight. Wow. That's a lot. Then, who is this?

Another ball player said, I went to guard him on the first day. He grabbed my face, pushed me away, and dunked with one hand. He didn't want me to interrupt him. That's what the NBA used to be, goddammit. That's what I love. Get the fuck out of my face. I miss that. I love that.

So Jim Boeheim, the Syracuse coach, said, quote, If they cut Barkley, they better do it by mail. He's going to be pissed. So he did cut Barkley. And Barkley ended up saying he actually took it well. And he said that later on, he said, yeah said yeah my defense was awful that's what he said and um yeah he said that it's it's not a big deal and you know they can win without me no big deal uh Bobby Knight said the word interesting is a good word to apply to Barkley he's an extremely talented player he's got to become a

much better defensive player he has to work at sharpening what he does if he can he has an excellent chance if he can't he's not going to make the team uh parkley said that bobby knight talked to him about trying to slim down listen to this bobby knight from yeah you just slim down all right bob sure bob i need you to have not what i need you to have less white hair can you do that you have i need your workout not to be chair tossing. How's that sound? He said, can you slim down from 284, not to 250, to 215? Oh, my. And Barkley was like, ah, no.

I need you to lose 70 pounds? His frame, he wouldn't look right. Barkley said, quote, I'd be in bad shape if I did that. And so Bobby Knight asked him, are you fat or are you just built funny? Yeah. Which is a hilarious question to ask another human being about their body. That's like trying to not ask a woman if she's pregnant. Walk up to a woman at the store and you go, are you fat or just built funny?

See what happens to you. She will stab you in the throat and everyone will go you should have you deserve that that was a weird question to ask so are you fat or just built funny barkley took it he didn't care he said quote hard to say if i peeled off the extra weight i'd probably look like hercules well i mean which i think it's probably true with him probably he's got like a real yeah yeah might have a great toned ass and abs under there that's the thing bobby knight said he backed off of it when he saw him play then he said quote barkley at 215 would be like asking raquel welsh to undergo plastic surgery so he's trying to say bobby's got himself a crush he's beautiful how he is beautiful how he is. Beautiful how he is.

But yeah, he was real nasty. There was a certain play here they talk about where Jordan, who was the college player of the year, Michael Jordan, obviously, tried to bounce a pass in front of Barkley under the basket, and Barkley stole it and dribbled down court. And then he was kind of, he passed it. He dribbled down court, passed to another guy who missed the layup and then he got the rebound from jordan and slammed it oh so they were like man they were like oh shit look at that and then barkley said quote to the press if you all had a vote i'd be

on the team so but he's not on the team the team is steve alford patrick ewing verne fleming michael jordan joe klein verne fleming yeah ver Vern Fleming! The guy from the Patreon episode. Vern Fleming, right? The guy from his Patreon episode? Yeah, that was somebody who pretended to be him, but that's a different Vern Fleming, huh? Yeah, different one. Yeah, that was a different Fleming. Michael Jordan, Joe Klein, which is weird. What? Yeah,

Joe Klein. Good in college. John Konkak, there's another. Let's see how many big, giant, stiff white centers we can stick on this fucking team oh sam perkins i love sam perkins stone looking motherfucker alvin robertson there's one of our guys there boy it was a great episode that guy made uh wayman tisdale who was great for a long time yeah jeff turner and leon wood that was the team team went eight and eight and no one won the gold so that team won yeah they got michael jordan patrick chris mullen sam perkins that's an m that's just thinking about all the boring ass white guys yeah

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really the san diego clippers in 1978 of october 1978 traded a future-round pick to the 76ers for World B-Free. Oh, no. Yeah, traded a first-round pick for World B-Free. This is that first-round pick. Comes to fruition in 1984, six years later. Wow. Was he number one? Who?

Jordan. No, actually. Number one, here it is. We've talked about it briefly, but number one is Akeem Olajuwon this year. He's Akeem Olajuwon. Number two, Sam Bowie, who that's not a good decision by Portland, briefly but number one is akim elijah on this year yeah he's akim elijah number two sam bowie okay uh who that's a bad not a good decision by portland because number three is michael jordan so you you probably should have grabbed him up yeah i would say uh sam perkins number four

number five overall to the philadelphia 76ers charles barkley wow so number five they wanted rebounding back then and uh that's the way it was. That's a great top five, I mean, apart from Sam Bowie. Yeah. But honestly, I mean, if you put Bowie and Olajuwon together, that's a squad up front, man. You're not getting near that. So the Trailblazers picked Bowie because they already had Drexler, correct? I would think so, yeah, because he was from Houston the year before. And then we got Alvin Robertson as number seven number seven otis thorpe who's around forever number

nine uh who else here kevin willis is in this draft he was drafted number nine who otis thorpe i think he wore number nine also i'm not sure i'm pretty sure he did i don't remember i thought he wore 41 no that was the other guy i swore he wore number nine now i'm just all thinking about 90s rockets which we'll get into now charles barkley's nba career is best said it has to be broken into four year increments yeah it's weird he has four distinct career periods okay okay and we'll start with period number one this is the good sixers period he got to the 76ers in 84 and they were a good team in the early 80s like they were really smoking uh on this team listen to the roster here you got uh charles barkley maurice cheeks who's a

badass dr j is on this fucking team really julius how weird is it that charles barkley and dr j played on the same team that's fascinating right isn't that weird they had a crossover wow when you think about those two you think of charles barkley a certain era you think of him like 1993 like uh elbowing barney the dinosaur on snl and saying i'm not a role model and being in space jam and then dr j you picture in that 70s looking picture with a huge afro soaring dunking at the basket you don't ever picture those two together no they played on the same team for one year for i think it was two years what ends up and moses malone is on this team too moses malone dr jay and charles barkley on the sadal threets on this team he's great too there's a lot of good players on this team but we'll talk about it they

were a good team 58 and 24 and they uh first round they beat the bullets three to one the series was then they swept the milwaukee bucks for oh then they ran into the boston celtics okay who that's the reason why yeah the celtics became a juggernaut there they were the east in the 80s so that's how that happened and they lost in a five-game series to boston fascinating yeah if barkley wasn't a rookie, like all those guys in their peak, because Moses Malone was at the end of his career too, if you had Dr. J, Moses, and Charles Barkley all in their primes,

this was like two guys well past their prime and one guy not there yet. So it wasn't quite the same, but still they did pretty well. Chuckster that year plays in all 82 games. He does pretty well, 8.6 rebounds a game. He doesn't play that much. That's why he's kind of a replacement here.

28.6 minutes a game, but that's not usually. He's a 40-minute guy later on, which, again, fat and sweaty, but he's out there the whole fucking game somehow. Looking, you know, svelte. 14 points a game as well. Makes $307,000. That's pretty good. Not bad, especially for the 84.

85, 86, they're 54 and 28 again. They beat the Bullets in the first round and then lose to the Bucks in the seven-game series. Oh, no. In the second round there. He makes $437,500, but he averages 20 points that year. 20 points a game and 12.8 rebounds. There you go.

20 and 10 will do it, too. 20 and 13 will get you a lot. That's something, man. That's pretty goddamn good. 86-87, 45 and 37 is the team. They go to the playoffs still, but lose in the first round to the Bucs. The downhill slide of the Sixers here. He sets records this year, though, in games. Playoff still, but losing the first round to the Bucs. The downhill slide of the Sixers here.

He sets records this year, though, in games. Most offensive rebounds in a half. He has 13 offensive rebounds in a half, which is a shitload. That's a record. Versus the Knicks on March 4th. And most offensive rebounds in a quarter as well that game with 11. What? Which is insane.

That's dominating the offensive boards. They don't miss that frequently that's right you got every missed shot basically in the whole half you offensive everyone that your team missed you unbelievable that's why later on or this year too he will be starting this year the smallest player ever to lead the league in rebounds at six foot six unbelievable smallest player he's not six league in rebounds at 6'6". Unbelievable. Smallest player. He's not 6'6". That's the other thing. He's nowhere near 6'6". So, yeah.

This year, 23 points, 14.6 rebounds a game. That's beastly. The next year, he'll do even better. Next year, he's going to have 28.3 points and 11.9 rebounds a game. Per game. Per game. So, if he only got 7, don't worry. In another game game he's

gonna get 18 yeah that's what i mean he's crushing it and he's an all-star there in 86 87 for the first time that'll be for the whole center of his career great the whole center cut he'll be you know you picture like uh tuna for for sushi you can cut off the sides and that whole center cuts all all-star and the sides are just fat, really, especially with the Chuckster. I'll give that to the cat. Yeah, exactly. So 87-88, they're 36-46 now, the team. So they don't make the playoffs.

And not going terrific for the team, but for Charles, 28.3 and 11.9 rebounds. Pretty fucking good. He's so good good he's an all-star again 822 500 he makes that year so that's the good sixers period chuckster's just becoming a star people around the league are going who's this fat guy who can dunk like that it's amazing and then here comes the 88 to 92 period this is the next four year period of his career with the sixers this is the shit sixers period this is chuck's unhappy the sixers suck yeah he wants out for four fucking years but he has to perform if he wants to make money and go somewhere exactly a sign in life to live fucking hate this place hate this team and i have to do well i have to do well this team sucks where's dr jay

so august 18th 1988 uh charles barkley here um this is pretty fucking funny he was coming from a kids program actually which is pretty goddamn funny he was uh where was it he was in atlantic city at a 76ers youth basketball clinic. And while he was driving away, his 1988 Porsche was pulled over for speeding. And unfortunately for him, the trooper here, Trooper D. Simon, who made the stop, spotted a fully loaded 13-shot Heckler and Koch. Yeah, it's an H&K. There you go. Nine-millimeter handgun on the passenger seat. Same one. Well, he sat right on the passenger seat. I got the same one.

It's a great gun. Right on the passenger seat, loaded to the fucking max. The difference is I live in Arizona. You live in Jersey. Philly. You can't do that there. And you can't just have a loaded handgun on the seat like that. And he had no permit to carry it is the other thing.

So it's not like it's legal or anything. He's just fucking carrying it. Running around with an H&K. That's all. F's all fully loaded so who knows it wasn't registered anywhere just as just a gun god damn it so yeah there was that so he gets arrested for that obviously that's his his first in his long line here he uh it's a one just a weapons possession charge and he may be eligible for a pre-trial program that would result in a dismissal of the charges the prosecutor said here how dangerous are these kids he went to go visit i mean ac in the 80s was pretty grimy it's a nine and he's driving a porsche i mean who knows maybe

he's like i ain't getting my shit taken i i don't know go into a kid's clinic i yeah i mean i'm but kids clinics are usually in shitty neighborhoods. Chuckster knows a shit neighborhood when he sees one, and he's like, well, I mean, I'll go there and help the kids. He ain't robbing me afterwards. I think that's kind of his. Badass 13-year-olds? Yeah.

I mean, I don't know what his deal is, but you got to, I mean, get a registered gunner. Do something. I don't know. Hire a guy to come with you. Tell the team, yeah, I'll go with there if you send me to the fucking, you send me to the hood, you got to send a couple people with me so I don't get carjacked. Right. So I don't have to hire a guy to come with you. Tell the team, yeah, I'll go with there if you send me to the fucking, you send me to the hood, you got to send a couple people with me so I don't get carjacked. Right.

So I don't have to carry around a loaded gun. So otherwise, that's what I got to do. Just need a fall guy. That's it. The 76ers took no action against him because silvers can be. And they sent him. Yeah, they sent him. The NBA is investigating.

And Chuck says, quote, I know, I now now realize it was wrong but at the time i was unaware that carrying a gun in a car in a car in new jersey was an offense i don't know why the media should make a big deal out of it it's not an al capone kind of thing charles so he's just acting like i don't even know i did anything wrong fuck it you don't know that the east coast doesn't i mean i guess he's from alab Alabama where everybody's got a shotgun in every car. He's lived in Jersey, in Philly for four years now. That's a great point. And Philly's right next to Jersey.

He knows. Maybe ask a guy. Yeah, it's cool to carry this loaded weapon around, right? Fuck no, man. No registration or nothing. No permit. It's three to seven. Hey, you know.

So, 88, 89 here with the Phillies, or the Phillies with the Sixers. This is the start of the bad period. 46 and 36 this year. So not terrible. They lose. They get swept by the Knicks in the first round of the playoffs, though. So that's,

that's not terrific. Obviously, no one's looking at that. Chuckster. Great year, though. 25.8 rebounds, 25.8 points, 12.5 rebounds,

4.1 assists. He's fucking crushing it. All-star again. $1,536, 4.1 assists. He's fucking crushing it. All-star again. Goddamn. $1,536,000. Awesome. Not too goddamn shabby. And on top of all that, things are going well.

Now, this usually, as we say, when things are going badly, people do this, but things are all going well. So he says, you know what? Let's throw something else in the mix, and he gets married. Yeah. So he marries a woman. Who is it? Maureen Blumhard.

Her name is. They met at a restaurant sometime that year yeah and they're the year before and they get married and i there everyone's like why are you married so quick that was fast uh maybe because later on in the year they have a daughter named christiana yeah so uh one thing with chuck he is still with this woman yes i was gonna say i think maureen's still his wife. No, they've been a stand-by-each-other kind of couple for a long time. She's a saint. Which is amazing, considering... The amount of debaucherous shit he's done to her. Oh, my God.

He's put her through the wringer. He is... Okay, Chuck is a pussy hound. Yes. Like, from way back. Boy, does he love women. He loves him some women not just like any like he has a very specific type he like when i ran into him he had two women with him yeah they

were you know not his wife or they're a lot younger than him i just know that much so i mean that's just that's his thing he don't care he'll tell you that too i don't know if they have an arrangement or what but shit i don't know how she puts up with it but whatever that's between them so 89 90 they're 53 and 29 which isn't too bad they win in the first round actually they beat the cavaliers and the most boring offense ever put together and then they lose uh in a five game series against the bulls this is when the bulls emerged and i think the next year is when they won the title okay this is when they lost to the sixers in the eastern conference finals such fun basketball this is a great from like 88 to fucking 98 that 10 years was beautiful man it was great because the east and the west had at least eight good competitive teams and you knew the playoffs were gonna be fun

every there was huge stars there was it was a different thing. It was great. You could name the starting five of just about every team in 1994. Absolutely. You could just name them off. And people who follow basketball now are like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It's not this. It was so iconic.

Right. And they stayed. They didn't just move all over the place. I mean, they moved from time to time. People move, usually at the end of their career. Yeah, but now the starting five from one team will be throughout the league somewhere else tomorrow. Yeah, that's true.

You never know. So in 1990, after an overtime win while playing for the Sixers here, Barkley told reporters, Jesus Christ, this didn't age well at all. Oh, boy. He had to apologize for this like a year and a half later like this is one of those that wasn't like 20 years later yeah it's like a year

and a half they're like that was pretty fucked up what you said last year okay brace yourselves quote this is a game that if you lose you go home and beat your wife and kids did you see my wife jumping up and down at the end of that game that's because she knew i wasn't gonna beat her holy shit chuck now he is clearly trying to make a joke right he's not and later on he says i was kidding but that's not that's like feels like you're airing dirty laundry of like what other people certainly do that's wild man yeah just to say that that's because to say like uh if you that's this is a game if you lose you go home beat your wife and kids if you said that and then laughed and i'm just kidding blah blah blah that would be like okay a little off color but whatever he like went into it further right you see her jumping up and down that's because she knew i wasn't gonna

beat her that's where you're like damn shuck what the fuck are you talking about, bro? Not cool. He's a fan of corporal punishment, too, though. He is. 25.2 points a game this year and 11.5 rebounds. So, I don't know. He's beating something. Now, this is when he says a bit. A reporter asked him about a guy. Somebody said everybody likes this player.

Everybody says he works really hard. So, they asked Chuck about this player. And he said really hard so they asked chuck about this player and he said quote if you go out with an ugly girl and they say she has a great personality she's ugly if they tell you a guy works hard he can't play a lick same thing all right so yeah works hard is the great personality of basketball of sports why did ugly women have to come into because he's charles bark that's what i mean even even in that when he's just talking about a guy who's overrated he brings in yeah it doesn't matter to him he's like oh i've turned this misogynist in some way shape or form

don't you worry i'll get there hold on i'll get there hold on keep the mic stink pussy keep it rolling down chuck keep it rolling Women need to wash their asses when it comes out to Martin Lawrence's fucking SNL fucking... God damn it, Chuck. Damn, Chuck. Edit your interview. Shit crumbs all in the bed. So, anyway.

You only said two lines, Chuck, and we got to edit it. So we're asking you about that point guard. Right. Shit crumbs in the bed, and we got to edit it. So we're asking you about that point guard. Right. Shit. Come on, man. So he's an all-star again that year. How did Martin not know that that wasn't going to make it? I think he did know.

He had to, right? That was the point, yeah. Yeah, when a comic does that shit on SNL, they know. They're doing it on purpose. Yeah, they're like, all right, I don't want to go on SNL for a while, but this is going to get my next special a shitload of attention. Now everybody hears about me. It works.

Yeah. Smart move. You got to be in fucking blue streak. I'm going to at least do that. Hey, fuck that. I'll make so much money off big mama's house. It's not even funny.

Martin got paid. He is so much. I mean that. And he's got his show is still on. It's crazy. If you're in a hotel, like we're on the road, it's like VH1 plays it all night. It's like fucking 12 episodes. What's in there watching Martin all fucking night? I'm like, what is, this is still on?

And it's shockingly okay. It's not bad. I mean, it's got its corny parts, but it's a sitcom from the 90s, so it's fine. It was on regular TV. It's also, you know, it's got its thing. It's pretty good. I'll watch it. Like when he's a mailman with big buck teeth.

I'll watch it. I'll watch it. He's so good. Fucking Brum man coming through the window. That's some good shit, man. Brum man. Yeah, I love that shit, dude. I used to shit out of Martin when I was a kid.

So anyway, he makes three million bucks for that this year for those comments and everything else. And the basketball. Yeah. You know, both. So, 1991 91 this is when it really gets interesting here boy oh man his whole life kind of gets crazy uh the team goes 44 and 38 they sweep the bucks in the first round lose to the bulls in the second round so i think

he's just looking at okay if i'm here i'm just getting beat by the bulls every year this team isn't what i need it to be so what the fuck he uh goes to the all-star game that year like we said he's an all-star for like 10 straight years and uh he is the mvp of the all-star game is that right which is pretty impressive when you hear what the rosters are yeah it's the fucking all-star 90 91 also think about the different generations let me read you the rosters here the east is michael jordan joe dumars charles barkley bernard king patrick ewing that's the starting five uh the bench dominique wilkins ricky pierce hershey hawkins or hershey hawkins kevin mckale brad doherty alvin robertson

robert parish and uh larry burden isaiah thomas didn't play because they were hurt so you know and then the west who they're playing against, Magic Johnson, Kevin Johnson, Chris Mullen, Carl Malone, David Robinson. Wow. That's a fucking squad right there. This is not too shabby. The bench, James Worthy, Clyde Drexler, Kevin Duckworth, Tom Chambers, Terry Porter, Tim Hardaway, John Stockton.

The best. Pretty good. So great. That's about as good of an all-star game as you're going to find there in in terms of rosters maybe the year before but so awesome and he's the mvp there so not too bad for for the chuckster there what was that uh 90 91 he is uh 27.6 points a game as well that year and 10.1 rebounds march 91 though he's suspended for a game and fined $10,000. What he did? Well, there was an overtime loss to the Nets.

And this is a wife-beating game. A wife-beaten kind of loss. Yeah. An embarrassment. The look on his face was like, oh, my God, did he beat his wife at the game? I didn't hear about this. No, no, no. That would have got a lot of news. Yeah.

But that kind of game, as he described it anyway. And apparently there was somebody heckling him for the whole overtime and really being an asshole. So as he came off the court, he spit at the guy. I remember that. And it didn't hit the guy, though. It hit an eight-year-old girl. Oh, no, Chuck. Chuckster.

Bad aim with spit, chief. Wow. So he ended up spitting on an eight-year-old girl which just the footage just does not look good because all you see is a man spitting and it landing on a child there's no context of i'm gonna like he didn't well i'm spitting at you motherfucker and he was looking at him and then it went another direction like the wind took it and everybody's facial expressions changed or he's angry and he just put a little too much oomph on it poof and it lands in a kid's fucking head.

And you're like, oh, my God. That's so messed up. I remember this fitting because when he came here, that was what they talked about. Oh, yeah. It was a big deal. Right. So and then in the playoffs that year, April of 91, he is actually charged with disorderly conduct. For that?

No. For another incident a month later where Bucs fans at the Bradley Center, he threw cups of Gatorade at them. Really? Full cups of Gatorade at them and was charged with disorderly conduct by the Milwaukee police and fined $109 by the city of Milwaukee for doing that during a basketball game. Criminal behavior. Unbelievable. Wild, right? I never knew that.

I didn't either. I had no idea that he got fined. I knew he did that, but i didn't know he got like like fine but it's not the the nba didn't do anything the fucking city of milwaukee had to step in that's weird as shit wild so he's an all-star obviously and he's uh 2.9 million dollars that year also his book comes out his first book he writes a lot of books yeah four years in the nba and you got something to say chuck is but his book is called outrageous with a cap with an exclamation point so um it is it's co-written obviously he's got a writer as all athletes do on they're not sitting down with their fucking typewriter and typing it out when i was 12 yeah no um in this book he criticized his teammates he criticizes philly's owner he criticizes a bunch

of shit that you wouldn't criticize in public and then the book comes out and they go hey chuck the press goes hey chuck you talk shit about a bunch of teammates and your owner what's up with that and he goes i was misquoted everyone said chuck it's your book right it's your it's not a this isn't a newsweek article this isn't a fucking article no one sat down this is your book. Right. It's your, it's not a, this isn't a newsweek article. This isn't a fucking article. No one sat down. This is your book. There was an editor that said, is this what you want to say? And you said, yes.

You said, yeah, it's not. You didn't just say it in recording. Go, did I just say some stupid shit and they're going to use it? Like you got to read it afterwards, go through it, make sure that's what you wanted to say. At the end, when they're going to publish it, they put out, they give you galleys so then you can read through it again. Like, that like that's like hey just to make sure final final fucking chance to turn around and he went oh no hell no fuck those people misquoted in his own book unbelievable that is a new one that's a guy that wants out that's a new one yeah yeah exactly 91 92 philly 35 and 47 no playoffs they suck uh he is not happy as you can imagine 23.1

points and 11.1 rebounds his play is a cry for help even he's not a happy guy still an all-star um obviously um uh but during the season he has a problem i think maybe this is anger spilling over sure december 23rd it's a holiday it is this is a holiday themed thing you've got a daughter there is yeah think about building a wagon somewhere there's jingle bells jingling at this moment in time people are putting shit together right people are watching like you know the little fucking claymation rudolph the red-nosed reindeer movie the dentist kid on there what the fuck his name is herbie snoopy's christmas is on all this shit this is what people are doing not the chuckster he's in milwaukee at a downtown parking lot at 2 30 a.m oh no so as we know from crime and sports whenever i start off with the date line with uh you know this city this location 2 30 a.m right that means there will be police

involvement if a.m is the time yeah and charles barkley and we're talking about it right there's an issue according to police reports uh barkley and a female friend not his wife yeah uh we're leaving a downtown tavern when a man called out to him yeah he says, he was walking away. Charles was with this girl there. Charles, I hear you're one of the baddest dudes in the NBA. Okay. Oh, no. So Charles said he turned around and he saw a dude and three other guys.

So there's like four guys there. There's conflicting reports of three or four guys. I'm not sure which, but three or four guys. And he said that uh they approached him and one of the guys says you're so tough on the court show me how tough you are so they're trying to be like oh let's go beat up charles barkley which what are you stupid that first that's dumb for like he's your own self he's fucking gigantic have you ever seen him i mean i know just from being six four that's big but he he's got almost 100 pounds on me.

He's a professional fucking athlete. For your own self-wellness, that's not a good idea. No. Also, you're going to look like an asshole if you're literally taking four dudes and beating the shit out of an athlete. What are you doing that for? What about four dudes and you still can't beat the shit out of an athlete? Oh, no. Do they all lose?

Well, this is what ends up happening here. You Van Dammed them? So apparently, he said, you're so tough on the court. Show me how tough you are. So Barkley punched him in the face with his left hand. Gave him a left to the face. Dude fell on the ground. Two bouncers from a bar nearby came over and took Barkley and his friend there to the car

and said, OK, you guys should go and go to the hotel. Now, the guy who said that he, you know, I hear you're one of the best dudes in the NBA and got punched. He said, I made that comment, but that's all I said to him. And he punched me. That was his fucking thing. He's like, I just I said, I hear one of the best dudes in the NBA went up to talk to him and he fucking socked me in the face. I was fucked up. Well, think about how you're leading conversations.

It's 2.30 a a.m in a dark parking lot start conversations that way you have to start conversations like hey mean you no harm or 2 30 a.m in a parking lot huge fan thumbs up you have to be real friendly looking when you it's like a dog you have to go over with your fucking hand turn the right way you got to be wearing his jersey to have a conversation at 2 30 you want to sniff it sniff it or whatever because yeah if i, or whatever, because, yeah, if I'm Charles Barkley and I'm leaving at 2.30 in the morning, and I'm sure he's got an expensive watch on and money and things like that going to his nice car. Also, he doesn't want to look like a bitch getting beat up by dudes in front of a chick that he's just trying to fuck, probably. Yeah, I mean, not only that, though, he knows when he's out, he's got to be head on a swivel just for people wanting to rob him because they know he's rich.

You know what I'm saying? So he's got to look around for that. So people come up to him at 2.30 in the morning. It's too late for you to be head on a swivel just for people wanting to rob him because they know he's rich. You know what I'm saying? So he's got to look for around for that. So people come up to him to 30 in the morning. It's too late for you to be friendly to me now. Friendly. We're off at 10 p.m. After my third drink. Right.

Friendly is over. So this guy. Yeah. Now Barkley ends up just going back to his hotel room. And that's where Milwaukee police ended up finding him knocking on his door and arresting him uh he broke the guy's nose apparently socked him real good he is james r mccarthy who's a student at university of wisconsin milwaukee also had cuts on his forehead and he was treated and released from the hospital barkley is out on a 500 bond arrested for battery and uh yeah he's arrested for teaching a kid a lesson

i mean that's what i'm saying i was okay with that uh the sixers say quote 70 76ers won't be issuing a statement until we get all the facts it sort of looks like a private matter between barkley and this individual we're not getting involved sounds like a him problem yeah the owner was like he talked worse shit about me, so fuck him. I don't care. Fuck that guy. We didn't fight. Barkley says that he hit the guy in the face as hard as he could.

With a left. With a left. And it took two bouncers to initially stop the whole thing and get Barkley to leave and go to his car. Barkley said one of the guys was real big and looked like a weightlifter. That's why he said he didn't want to let them get the drop on him. So later on, he talks about this on a podcast he was on later it's the low post pods podcast it's an espn podcast they're the only people that he said this to so i gotta give him credit uh he says quote all of a sudden i could hear running then it started getting closer to me and i could hear them saying fuck charles barkley fuck charles barkley see that this wasn't in the initial reports at all so i don't know if it's true or not so i said to his

he said to his girl here quote hey girl we need to speed this up we get to the car yeah i could hear people running toward me but it was really cold i didn't want to stop and turn around we start walking faster she had to park a long way away not of not of the part not the lot of the where there's parking there we got about two blocks away and these three guys are up on me i'm like yo man what's y'all problem they're like we don't fucking like you we don't fucking like you and we're gonna kick your ass i said why y'all gonna kick my ass i don't even know you dudes they're like no we don't like you so he says quote an old girl is screaming and i'm screaming hey shut up i'm

trying to think over here because she's yelling he's like i don't need you yelling too old girl old girl screaming he said so they were three big weight lifters and they were right in my grill two at my back and one right in my grill and i say yo man i don't want no trouble the dude says i'm gonna kick your ass so i'm starting to think okay what are you gonna do because right now you're probably gonna get your ass kicked in his mind these guys are gonna jump me so he said that he didn't have a lot of time to put this all together but he said this is fucking amazing this is the this story is great so he says that the first thing that came to mind was quote make him think you're crazy okay so how does he accomplish this yeah it's freezing out by the way this is december 23rd this is december 23rd in

milwaukee yeah we've been to milwaukee in december it's cold it's fucking cold yeah so and he's an alabama guy yeah not a cold guy people in milwaukee walk around it was 27 degrees outside and windy and people had shorts and a t-shirt on and they're not even they don't even have their hands in their pockets they're just walking around not even a beanie cap on head basketball game i had a goddamn fucking parka on and a hat and gloves and these people are like indoors with the window open so you can smoke in the green room and you're bundled up yeah they're like watching these fuckers walk down the street they're like this isn't shit okay so he says quote so i started taking off all my clothes wow i took off my jacket had a big coat on i take off my shirt i take off my shoes and socks

i think it was right around the time we were doing uh we were doing karate kid so i was like wax on wax off i'm doing this and all of a sudden these two dudes back up but this one dude is still on my grill i'm thinking oh okay okay it's working on two of them but it's not working on another one then i said i might as well make my moves so i hit this one dude as hard as i can hit a dude and uh shirtless shoeless shirtless julie said he drilled him and then once he's crazy and shirtless andeless shirtless he said he drilled him and then once he he's crazy and shirtless and shoeless and he knocked the fuck out of the guys the other two guys were like he's a psychopath right I don't

want any part of this shit yeah he said that's where I did my karate kid impression I took off all my clothes because I had these three guys that were trying to beat me up I just wanted him to think I was crazy I was improvising I'm like the Marines but this one

guy kept standing right in front of me and i said wax on wax off the two guys backed off and there one fool standing right there and i hit him as hard as i could broke his nose no shirt no shoes no problem go on kenny just me he's out of his mind he's down and he's like you fucking hit me and i said you damn right and there's plenty more where that came from in charles barkley's tone that's awesome there's plenty more where that came from over shirtless and shoeless like a fucking maniac that's amazing uh that is really fucking awesome and uh he said that the other guys were kind of uh you know not really into it he said it would have been an interesting proposition me trying to fight off three these three big guys if all they got on if they all got on me at the same time but when i hit old boy he went down and that was it so yeah so he is

arrested for battery maximum that he could get is nine months in jail and a ten thousand dollar fine but i say that was warranted maybe so that's one of those that's a challenge to do in the street you challenge a guy in the street you challenge a guy in the street at 2 30 in the morning and he hits you you deserve it sorry you shouldn't fucking challenge them i don't know what to tell you don't challenge giant men in the street this is the old uh the old james idea that if two men want to fight if they're challenged and you agree yeah whatever happens happens and if there's three of you and you want to fight one of you and he wins fuck all of you i don't give a shit what you got.

Yeah, you should go to jail to them. Not him. So he says later on at practice, he says, quote, the man follows me for a block and a half, messes with me and harasses who I'm with. This girl there. I can only ignore so much. And I wasn't going to fight the guy. But when he walks up with me to me, fist balled, balled up, saying he wants a shot at me i'm gonna defend myself so he likes to talk less than a week after that he is uh talking about how his teammates are lazy

in philly in philly yeah he says quote we've got a lazy team if we're not pushed we don't play in the past i would get on guys and ride them like horses but i quit doing that because all the guys complained well now you can't worry about feelings when you're below 500 so fuck them 1992 here january 14th a couple weeks later michael jordan talks about barkley he's asked about barkley and how he feels about him so jordan says quote i like charles he's a good guy i just wish he could get out of all of his problems you've got to be i wouldn't say a babys, but you've got to know when to criticize and when not to criticize. He's talking about as a team leader because Charles said he doesn't get on people. And they asked Jordan, what do you think about that?

He's been a little too negative with his teammates, and now they're starting to fight back. And it's hard to win when you've got teammates fighting. You know, he says, though, this is fucking great. They asked him about Jordan's or Barkley's comments and how he says though this is fucking great they asked him about jordan's or barkley's comments and how he says crazy shit to the media and jordan admitted that he is a little bit jealous he said literally yeah we do live a little vicariously through chuck whenever he says shit like that we're like i wish i could say that shit like because they can't say it because he's got kids following him saying they want to be like mike and he's got shoes to sell yeah so he can't

take his shoes off and whoop somebody's ass. Right. That's the difference. Mike would have taken everything off, left his fucking Air Jordans on. So he would have been like, I did keep my Jordans on. And they improved the punch power. That's what it is. The maximum grip and the bounce from the air really delivers a good laugh.

It puts an extra pop in your shot there. It's pretty good shit. Barkley would have sold more shoes if he'd said that. what i mean i kept my shoes on though he says jordan says everybody has a little devil on their left shoulder but the angel on the right is a little bit more overwhelming and it tells you to shut up before you actually say it but with charles the devil is a little bit bigger these days barclley says he's taking a vacation from the media until the All-Star break. And Jordan said that Barkley should try to learn from him a little bit, from Jordan. He says, quote, when I lost the fun for the game this year, this is Jordan,

I went back to the original love I had for the game and totally pushed aside everything else and said, when I step on the basketball court, I want to have fun. He has to step on the basketball court and think about all the times he used to have fun all the good things that are still happening to him in basketball pertaining to basketball and get rid of some of the negative stuff that he's surrounding himself in right now because it's really bothering him you can tell so yeah january 15th the day after jordan makes these comments 1992 he uh is in a bar fight with Jason Williams, Charles Barkley. Oh, really? Not against each other.

They're just hanging out in a bar. Jason Williams gets in a fight. Barkley's actually not, from what we understand, doesn't throw a punch, but he was right there, so he gets roped into the whole thing. That Jason Williams, by the way. Yeah, our Jason Williams. Murderer Jason Williams. Episode five or six. Limo driver shooter Jason Williams. That Jason Williams. thing which is jason williams by the way yeah the our our jason williams murderer jason williams episode five or six limo driver shooter jason will that jason williams yeah not white chocolate jason williams the other one the fucking the other idiot jason williams so uh they said they were

hanging out they were at the bar at the hyatt regency and they had they lost to the bulls that night they were in chicago and it was charlesley, Jeff Ruland, Manute Bull, and Manute Bull in a bar. That's just so weird. Ducking and shit. How the hell did he get in there? They had to turn him sideways. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing.

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How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. So, and Tony Harris, the team trainer, and Jason Williams at one point was there because they were in the hotel. So he's kind of coming in and out. And he runs through and he says, I've got to get my exercise somehow, they were saying. And then at about 2 a.m., Williams ends up in a bar fight somehow.

And they're like, he's here? What the fuck is going on? So this is the day before was when his house burned down, Jason Williams. Really? Yeah. Maria's mansion burned down. So his mansion burned down and he was a little bit pissed off and uh you know so he's out late at night and then somebody's fucking with him and uh charles barkley says quote i was at the bar

talking to some people i had met john cusack the actor in there oh that's awesome that's fucking cool as shit yeah damn that's awesome i want to be in a bar with that guy. I know, right? That sounds great. So he said, all I know is Jason got in a fight with another guy. I didn't see it. My back was to them. I was about 10 yards away. I heard a loud thump and turned around.

That's all I really know. But they tried to make it like Charles was like, you know, whatever. So apparently this guy, Christopher Vincent, who's 34, he was haranguing the Sixers, saying that they weren't strong. Oh, boy. What are you, fucking Ukrainian or something? You're not strong. You're not strong like me. Watch, I pick table up, bolt it to ground.

You pick up. You're not strong. You're not strong. All right, sorry. You're a bunch of pussy. Maybe so, but I'm going to get some and you're not. Yeah, and Jason Williams is 6'11", fucking 275 pounds. Don't tell some and you're not yeah and jason williams is 6 11 fucking 275 pounds don't tell us you're not stronger than that guy that's the thing you can look at him and

go well he's not a weightlifter you know the natural strength the person that size has a lot of it that's a big person it's just a lot of man it's a lot of man his fist is huge he can hold a basketball like a fucking peanut you understand how big his fist is you're barely uh open hand palming a fucking beer glass yeah just move on sir so yeah chuck says i wasn't involved in any way in any capacity yes i was at the bar with some of my teammates but i resent people saying that i was talking to women because they were saying chuck was talking to the lady so he wasn't involved he's like i was there and i wasn't involved but don't say i was talking to women i got a wife stop fucking up my house meanwhile a't involved he's like i was there and i wasn't involved but don't say i was talking to women i got a wife stop fucking up my house meanwhile a month beforehand he's like i was with my lady friend leaving the bar like i was with old girl old girl starts doing

this so wow he's chasing got in a fight with another guy and i didn't even see it so christopher vincent the guy who got beat up was actually charged with aggravated assault good and uh williams who hit him in the head with a beer mug what apparently the somebody said he had a knife this guy when he ended up not having a knife but jason williams and a bunch of other people thought he did have a knife so he hit him in the head with a beer mug which is warranted if someone's trying to stab you well it's also warranted if somebody's attacking you in a bar if that's what you've got to defend yourself that's what you got yeah so barkley said when the police and paramedics came i stayed with jason because i didn't want him to be there by himself the other guys had left before it happened jason told me

what happened that's all i know i'm not in the middle of this don't drag me into this so he said i just stayed to make sure jason was cool cops get there they're like charles barkley must have beat somebody up. Perfect. Problem is, the day before, he missed a team flight as well. So he doesn't need publicity while he's missing team flights. Exactly. They're going to find him. He said, quote, I overslept.

I went to bed at 4, 4.30 in the morning. The problem was he was supposed to meet somebody at the airport. Actually, two people at the airport. His wife at the airport his wife and daughter oh that is a picture of them from the actual newspaper waiting for charles barkley that will never show up because he didn't show up there they are maureen yeah kids cute as shit yeah so maureen the two of them she has dad's mouth look at that yeah oh she looks adorable

she looks like a girl charles yeah yeah no this is yeah nice picture there so she looks like she's screaming where the fuck's my dad and the wife's like this motherfucker they're taking pictures of me waiting for him i will stab him in the face when i see him so uh yeah that year 3.2 million dollars and he's an all-star june 17th 1992 after the season he gets his wish and he is traded by the 76ers to the phoenix suns for jeff hornacek andrew lang and tim perry that's right yeah great deal sixers um i mean it's three bodies exactly three bodies over half a starting lineup yeah they're not starters you can take tim perry and throw him on the pile of bodies just throw him away yeah so this is career period number three this four-year period this is the sun's period yeah

this is a completely different everyone is completely different yeah that first four years he just kind of shut up and played and was like a colorful player second four years all complaining yeah fines and all sorts of shit the sun's years are like kind of when he's like it's almost like he's legit at that point when he's on the suns because they made it to the finals they also made it a big fucking deal for him coming here oh it was huge oh my god they quote that was the first time i'd ever heard blockbuster trade it was big because it was so many people yeah for him for well usually in the nba you didn't see magic johnson never got traded larry bird never got traded michael jordan isaiah thomas you name all these guys over the last 10 years

none of them went anywhere they all stayed right the fuck put 70s they moved around 80s they kept guys and so now this was like whoa they're trading charles one of the top two players and a shitload of people for him yeah it was wild so uh but but before that they trade him and then before that is the dream team and uh just a quick run over the dream team because we talked about it michael jordan scotty pippen john stockton carl malone larry bird jesus christ man magic johnson larry bird patrick ewing chris mullen david robinson charles barkley boy oh boy that's a fucking squad right there mcdonald sold the shit out of that oh god they did jesus christ um yeah so the uh david robinson had played with

the 88 team and a couple of these guys played with the 84 team yep so this was the first time pros were playing though actual pros here so uh johnson said that the olympics magic johnson this was a year after the hiv diagnosis he said this was like a lifesaver because it was uh it made him feel like he could overcome it because he was playing and doing things and so yeah it made him feel like he needed to really not give up on it basically if you're suffering from just stop make the nba just make the dream team right you'll be all right you'll be fine you'll be fine everybody anyone can do it thanks magic found the cure that's amazing the australian delegation of the olympics threatened to boycott the games in protest of magic johnson's presence is that right absolutely fearing he might infect other uh other

athletes and the threats backfired and johnson received even more public support not only from the public but from other countries and teams and things like that so uh yeah it's it's it's fucking interesting 1992 clyde drexler was chosen over isaiah thomas that was the final spot there's a big controversy over why isaiah thomas wasn't chosen and the big story is that jordan jordan doesn't like him and said, don't pick him, basically, which is weird because it wasn't Chuck Daly, the coach. It was Isaiah's coach. Yeah. Wouldn't Chuck? I don't know.

Jordan's in charge. His voice matters more. He's in charge, period. That's all there is to it. Yeah, you don't want to piss him off. That's all he's going to do is torture him anyway. And Isaiah Thomas is a point guard. Yeah.

So he got Stockton. Clyde is a shooting guard, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's not really a choice of the matter matter it's just no who's backing up Jordan exactly yeah I mean I don't see any other point guards besides uh Stockton in there really so that's a point looks bad so and then Christian Laettner was chosen over Sha shack as the last as the one college player because at the time shack was considered not as polished of a player latner was considered a more versatile fundamentally he was crazy yeah he still wanted to see shack out there of course dunking on fucking foreigners that would have been hilarious looking back on it today yeah i want to

see shack dunk on a new zealander that's hilarious hilarious. But in 92, people wanted to see Leitner crossing over and shooting threes on people. He was in the finals all the time, or the final four or whatever. Eleven of the players and three of the coaches were eventually inducted into the Hall of Fame. Unreal. That's fucking absolutely crazy. Jordan said he didn't want to be the

face of the team. I'm sorry, Mike. You're the face of fucking anything basketball so suck it up magic and bird were selected as co-captains instead they did it that way which is pretty goddamn cool here uh so isaiah thomas left off the team barkley ends up leading the team with 18 points a game is that right of everybody yeah and uh it's they crush they go eight no obviously they destroy everything yeah anybody he says uh um oh no oh jesus christ this is about playing this is this is uh only charles barkley could say this shit and get away with it like yeah um because it's pretty racist um but i mean he said

it i want to say he says this was about playing an african team he said quote somebody hits me i'm gonna hit him back even if it looks like even if it does look like he hasn't eaten in a couple weeks i thought dude was gonna pull a spear on me oh my god you can't say that chuck jesus christ chuck come on man you can't say that post like. You can't say that post like 84. You can't say that post 44. What are you talking about? You can't say that post 1884. He is from Alabama, man. Holy shit.

That is like, wow. No, Chuck. I mean, the 80s, that's a cheap joke, even if it looks like he hasn't eaten in a couple weeks. That would be a cheap joke in the 80s. But I thought he was going to pull a spear on me. That's really doubling down. A little much there. in the 80s but i thought he was going to pull a spear on me that's really doubling down much there so with the phoenix suns 1992-93 this roster danny ainge chuckster uh cedric sabalis tom chambers

richard dumas who we've done an episode on who's a great young player frank johnson kevin johnson who are not related i believe no they are yeah no no they are not has the other one frank johnson is related to eddie johnson there you go yeah not so kevin who just died weren't both point guards both six one not related anyway uh kim tim kempton uh dan marley oliver miller gerard mustaff remember him oh my he's got he's we could do an episode on him too bad problems lots of guns in that guy's history kurt rambis and mark. So that's the squad. No hot rod yet, huh? No, no, no. This is the Mark West squad here.

Now, I saw, I have to say, I saw Charles Barkley's first game in Phoenix. No kidding. It was a preseason game. It was America West Arenas, which is now, what is it, U.S.? U.S. Airways. No, it's not even. It's Talking Stick. It's a casino oh jesus christ now it changes every two years yeah but that was the first game there as well the first

game that they played there so when they brought when they introduced barkley oh boy i've that was the loudest like that i've been present for basketball crowd cheer i've ever fucking heard it was bonkers yeah the place was shaken and the they had like the olympic rings and all that shit they made a big deal out of it like for him they turned the lights down they put music on i swear to god they acted like he was hulk hogan in 84 and they started the starting lineup with the lights on and then bark and then the fuck that's exactly what they did and then they brought like from all the four corners they brought the olympic rings down the whole court had the like the the light-up Olympic rings on it.

I mean, it was fucking, they acted like, from the heavens, turning water into wine, Charles Barkley. That's what it was like. Here's 11 assholes and Charles Barkley. And Charles Barkley. It was amazing. 12 on a squad, right? Yeah, about that. So there's a lawsuit, by the way, at this point also,

about somebody beating him, apparently, or he beat somebody, apparently. Apparently this was in New Jersey. A guy named Dennis McKeever, a Yonkers native, said that he punched him in the face with the back of his hand. So he gave him, like, a backhand. That's not a punch, sir. It's not a punch.

That's a backhand. You're from Yonkers. You know the difference. Yeah. The guy's a New York City firefighter, McKeever. Oh, that's a problem. He said he extended his hand to tell Barkley, nice game. Yeah.

But he said instead Barkley hit him in the fucking backhand and him in the face. Wow. He said that Barkley told him, quote, fans like you ruin it for other fans before striking him it's like what oh thank god that's pre-9-11 yeah that's he didn't understand it he's like i don't even know why he was talking to me did some he said maybe somebody else yelled something a lot of people were yelling i don't understand i don't know. So he said, I said, what are you talking about? And he said, let's go into the tunnel so I can't be sued. He said, then he acted like he was leaving and turn around and whacked me.

So, yeah, so there's a civil lawsuit there. I guess it knocked him down, swelled up his nose and shit like that. Got to go tell the boys. This is happened. Yeah. So under cross-examination the uh barkley's attorney uh said asked the guy you know how much had he been drinking and he said he had three four beers during the game but he wasn't drunk he also said that he uh called for a lawyer while he was on the

that he denied that he called for a lawyer while he was on the ground or he said he didn't brag that barkley hit him either now during this Barkley was in court laughing during the testimony, this guy, and was signing autographs for kids during a break. And, yeah, Barkley said at the start of the trial, quote,

I'll give him $5 to call it a day. That's it. That's my only offer to him. That was it. And then they asked him afterwards and he said, some fans are idiots.

90% of them are great, which I think somebody else has said that before. Yeah. 99 though yeah it's a difference he's not giving enough credit charles barkley well and also uh basketballs he's probably close but he's probably a bit off still yeah there's way less 60 40 i was just gonna say it's more assholes definitely so 92 93 sons they go 62 and 20 This was a fucking squad. This was fun. They were a fun, magical squad. They were like this weird shit salad.

It's like the Isle of Misfit toys. Just like people that weren't really great. They were like one of those sponges that you get that's really tiny. And then you put three drops of water in it. It's five times the size. Barkley's the water. Without the water, it's this little tiny sponge. three drops of water in it's five times the size that barkley's the water without the water it's this little tiny sponge little bit of water boom the whole the sum of the parts become so much better they're eighth or ninth in the west mine is barkley

yeah barkley second or first that's that's it so they are first they crush they uh they beat the lakers three to two in the first round of the playoffs four to two over the spurs in the second round uh seven game series against the sonics in the third so that's a they played those series out man they got to be tired yeah and then uh six game series against the bulls culminating with that awful awful awful john paxton twat shot from the fucking oh god i want to smack him if you do anything don't leave paxton that was a fucking nightmare. They had Steve Kerr, too, though, right?

That was a nightmare. The Suns that year? No, no. Yeah, the Bulls did. Yeah, yeah. Two unbelievable three-point shooters. Two tiny three-point shooters. And B.J. Armstrong. Yeah.

That little fucker, too. It was going to happen. Yeah. So Barkley, 25.6 points a game that year, 12.2 rebounds. He's an all-star and the league MVP as well. He was an absolute monster that year this is his best year he was just a monster he could do anything this year it was wild bill walton the nba legendary center who's also a real pain in the ass in the booth and just makes

annoying comments dummy he says about it uh talking about at this point he said that barkley has so much ability he said quote barkley is like magic johnson and larry bird and that they don't really play a position he plays everything he plays basketball there's nobody who does what uh what charles barkley does he's a dominant rebounder a dominant defensive player a three-point shooter a dribbler and a playmaker he didn't have to say all that what he said there was so perfect first sentence was perfect yes he's like johnson and he's like magic and larry as they don't he doesn't have a position he's not a position player he plays basketball he's all around that's what he does he'll get

a rebound then dribble it up the court that's what he does beautiful uh grace let's say grace for now for yeah he did get a parade for losing then phoenix threw a ticker tape parade for losing the series they literally gave them. They should have sponsored it with Macy's because it was a fucking parade. 12 miles long. In 115 degree heat for people who lost. Talking about. How confused were they?

The team. They had to be like, wait a second. We're what? Did they see the game? We lost. These rings say Western Conference. John Paxton. Remember the shot?

He put it up. We lost. You guys didn't see that? No. Game six. It's over. It's pretty hot out, too. He put it up and we lost. You guys didn't see that? No. Game six. It's over. It's pretty hot out, too. We're going to have a parade.

They really want to do that? Why do they want to go outside during a parade? Right. Let's have one at the beginning of next year. You guys want us to finish our parade at the stadium that we lost at? All right. Let's go. Whatever.

I guess you guys forget. Follow behind. Short memories around here. Yeah. That's how excited they were about coming close. They had a fucking parade about it. Literally a parade. Right.

Cardinals didn't get that shit in the Super Bowl, man. Good. They don't deserve it. And that 92-93, though. The Suns-Phoenix was really... Yeah. It was the only time it's felt like there's a culture here since I've ever been coming here. I think they had the All-Star game here, that year possibly and that was a big deal so that

that being here there was just like a bill a good build yeah to something amazing and everybody really believed they were gonna win it was wild and i remember there was you know people's cars were painted right sun shit and like their houses they paint sun's logos right like fucking giant people it was like you couldn't go anywhere without seeing suns shit flags everywhere it was crazy everything that you bought that was for sale whether it be a drink or whatever the fucking suns logo was on the side of basically how kansas city is with the chiefs all the time the suns phoenix was like that with the suns for one season they were so popular the next year if you remember this their road games were on

pay-per-view do you remember that no pay per fucking view to watch a road game 995 to watch wednesday night regular season and people were paying them people were having watch parties of regular season games the sun's play the magic yeah unbelievable wild this is the not a role model time this is when he comes out and says that he's not a role model obviously there's a commercial and in the commercial it's a nike commercial he says i'm not paid to be a role model and that's the thing i'm not a role model blah blah blah and for some reason this was controversial right this was like oh how dare he and everybody it was was when really, that was the thing that made the culture be kind of like this weird thing with Barkley

where you either loved him or you hated him. But all he was saying was, you shouldn't count on me to pay attention to your fucking kids, which is a really good thing to say. The thing he was saying, not necessarily was that, was don't blame me when your kid fucks up. When I fuck up, don't act like it's such

a big deal i'm human yes exactly he says that um later on he says he was misunderstood he says it's acceptable to use athletes as secondary role models that shouldn't be your role model he said quote parents should point out some of the positive things in athletes lives that shouldn't be but that shouldn't be the only thing parents have to do a better job of leading their kids making athletes the main role model sends that message especially to black kids that the only way they can make it is in athletics it makes me shudder when people tell kids they can be anything they want well they can't be michael jordan or charles barkley or barry bonds there's only one of those that's a great point so yeah that's it is true yeah be realistic too at the same time right um now they're actually during this, they did a big study based on this to see actually what role athletes did play as role models for kids.

And they found out not much. No, no. Way blown out of proportion. Big deal. He was 100 percent right. Don't make it too big of a deal. They said, quote, as role models, athletes have a negligible effect on most kids. They said a

role model is someone you learn roles from what mothers do what fathers do what students do it's a formal kind of set of rules that they're learning athletes and musicians are more like heroes to kids there you go not role models that's different you can look at them like he-man but you can't look at them like fucking your your english teacher that's not the same thing and the thing is you you can meet your role models you don't meet your hero exactly that yeah you should know your role models but not your heroes it's the exact point so 93 94 phoenix suns 56 and 26 that year they sweep the warriors in the first round of the playoffs and then lose in seven to the rockets yeah uh in the western conference semifinals that was a rough series, too, in seven.

It's a good Rockets team, though. That was great. They went on to win the finals that year. They were nasty that year, man. So many good players. Tough, tough. So, yeah, that year, what was that, 93, 94, these Suns. He is 21.6 points, 11.2 rebounds, 4.6 assists. So he's gotten his assists up a

lot when phoenix because they they keyed in on him so much here he really turned into a pretty goddamn good passer yeah and then he's always decent but he started and then they they uh lob marley or ange about out there at the three point line if he goes inside and two people come to him he kicks it out he got a three drop it down him for the post if they collapse on him he'd kick it out and you'd get you get a three-pointer that's when that was the deal so uh yeah that year he's an all-star he makes 3.25 million dollars that year not too bad and uh this is when his gambling starts coming to the surface charles if you're not aware is an an absolutely legendary gambler like of epic proportions it borders on degenerate oh apart from the fact that he's got money no he's yes he he gambles like all the any old mobster that

writes a book and talks about john gatti back in the day says that he was the biggest degenerate gambler on fucking earth he's the worst gambler he was bad at it terrible at it like the fucking worst yeah they said the guy uh that jimmy bur Yeah. They said the guy that Jimmy Burke was his name, the guy that Robert De Niro plays in Goodfellas, that real guy was like a fucking whiz and he was great at cards and he used to just fucking clean John Gotti out constantly and Gotti would have to, you know, then he would fucking borrow from this. So he was always into like all these loan sharks, but he was John Gotti. So you gave him

some extra time that's what charles barkley is kind of thing you can fucking pay except he can always pay it that's the difference so he says uh this is he says that it's not about the amount he loses it has less to do with the amount of gambling that he does and more about the way he gambles this is when he talks about this and he'll talk about his gambling a lot over the course of this but this is kind of the beginning he says that um you know for a while for a while he'll say he'll take a break from casinos for a little while but he explained that he's an aggressive gambler who always had the goal of winning a million dollars whenever he went into the casino so if that's your goal if your goal isn't if your goal is to have fun yeah you're gonna be fine right if your goal is i'm going to win a million dollars in a game that's completely rigged against me, you're out of your fucking mind.

Like, that's a sickness. That's a sickness. That's like saying I'm going to smoke crack and then go to sleep. Like, no, you're not. I know you want to go to sleep and you want to smoke crack, but those two things don't go together. And neither does this. I'm going to drink whiskey and fuck all night. All night. A lot of whiskey. A whole bottle to drink whiskey and fuck all night. All right.

A lot of whiskey. A whole bottle. So that's his goal. A million dollars. He also says that over the years, he estimates that gambling has cost him around $20 to $30 million. And I believe it. With a fucking M. Yeah.

That is insane. So let's let Charles tell everyone. And Charles only made $3 million last year. About his gambling. It's $3 million. Yeah, that's the thing. Endorsements, though, he makes way more than that. But he's losing $30 million over his life.

Yeah, almost his whole basketball salary he has gambled. Just gone. Everything is in endorsements. So let's see what he says about gambling. Let's give Chuckster the say of it in their own words quote it got out of hand but i quit for two years and i remember talking to my friends who said gambling is not your problem you're just an idiot we we've sat on a table with you and you were up 300 400 500 600 000 and they said let's quit i developed this thing where i have to win a million

dollars i've won a million dollars probably four or five times in a single day i've lost a lot more millions in a single day i've lost a million dollars at least 10 to 15 somewhere in there in a day i probably only won a million five or six times, but I've lost somewhere between 10 and 20. I can't get an exact number because we're going back to the 80s. Wow. Wow. That's unbelievable. That that's like, oh, that's it. It's a sick man.

It's the same quote as when somebody says I couldn't help, but I get up and I'd smoke crack and then I'd go out and look for heroin. And then I jam it in my fucking arm and I was sleeping on a fucking curb by the end of the night. That's exactly. That's so much money. Yeah. What did we just do where they said, like, they got so fucked up, they just were, like, laying in a, they didn't even care. They were just laying in a ditch somewhere.

And that's what this is like. It's unbelievable. It's crazy, man. So, wild. 94-95. The Suns are still good, 59-23. They were good the whole time he was here. They sweep the

trailblazers in the first round again losing seven to the rockets and the fucking rockets god damn those rockets that was annoying so he's an all-star makes four million thirty thousand dollars and lost probably eight in gambling yeah not yeah When they legalized casino gambling in the Phoenix area, that must have been like, oh, well. Well, there was a time, too, that the casino here, it was in the press, I believe, had put out, gave him credit at the fucking casino. And he owed him like $800,000. Oh, he's done that a couple of times. That's coming up. 95, 96, the sons are mediocre here.

And this, as we know, this is when he gets off the ride. When the ride starts to slow down, he hops off before it stops completely. He's got some things to talk about. Yeah, 41-41 they go this year. And this is when Paul Westfall got fired. They brought Cotton Fitzsimmons in for a while. Cotton followed Westfall? Yeah, just for an interim until the end of the season.

He went 27-22. Oh, he was the assistant. That's right. Yeah, yeah. So they go to the playoffs, but they lose in the the end of the season. He went 27-22. Oh, he was the assistant. That's right. Yeah, yeah. So they go to the playoffs, but they lose in the first round of the Spurs. And he's an all-star, though. $4,760,000. And he's got the Dream Team, too, coming up here that summer as well.

The second Dream Team, pretty fucking good, too. I mean, the first one had all those legendary magic and bird and those guys. But Charles Barkley, Penny Hardaway, who at the time was about as good as you're getting. He was amazing before he was injured. So fast. Fast. He could shoot. He could dunk. He was taller than you.

He was quicker than you. He was just nasty. Was he 6'6"? He's 6'7". Wow. 6'7", fucking point guard. That's unbelievable. And quick as shit, too.

Yeah, he was wild uh really good uh grant hill yeah carl malone reggie miller whose money is shit uh key malajuan shack shack and akim are your centers dude jesus your fresh legs is still better than everybody in your country wow just put them out there gary payton, Scotty Pippen, Mitch Richman, David Robinson, John Stockton. Unbelievable. That is a squad, man. And Malone and Barkley are the two elder statesmen there and Stockton. They're all about the same age.

So not a bad squad. Now, Gary Payton was actually a late replacement for Glenn Robinson who was injured, who was another one of ours. Now, before the Olympics get started, he almost didn't get to the olympics because uh july 6th 1996 he's at a bar called the basement in cleveland which you know bad things are going to happen it's late it's in cleveland first of all so it's and it's something called the basement in cleveland yeah it's somewhere you don't want to be no it's

a i guess a bunch of bars in the area and apparently apparently he'd been in town for the U.S. men's basketball dream teams exhibition game against Brazil. Warm up game against Brazil. This guy here, Tyler, is his last name. He apparently came up and he said he and a friend introduced themselves to Barkley and Reggie Miller and a woman who was with the players at the bar. and Reggie Miller and a woman who was with the players at the bar. This guy said that Barkley asked them what they were talking about and then told Tyler and his friend they had to leave. I guess this Tyler guy said that he refused to leave and said that Barkley should leave instead.

So Tyler said, quote, as soon as I said that, he punched me in the nose. Yeah. That's his game. He's 6'180", this tyler guy here and he said then he goes on to say that both he and barkley landed a few punches each okay i doubt that i don't believe i don't believe you i think he hit you in the nose you grabbed your face then he hit you a few more times and then people broke it up he uh he had some bumps on his head and a mark on his forehead and barkley had nothing he was unscathed completely uh now barkley ends up

filing a complaint asking uh he complained at saying that tyler asked the woman if she planned to have sex with charles and reggie miller are you gonna fuck both these guys that's what charles says okay and apparently barkley told the guy to leave. And from what witnesses said, this Tyler guy charged at him. And Tyler said he didn't have that conversation. And yeah, he said that he heard a friend ask the woman if she was, quote, with the players. But he didn't say, are you fucking multiple players tonight? So after this, Barkley said, I don't know what's going to happen with it. I know my security guards say he hit me.

I filed a complaint against him. You just get sick of people trying to sue you and make money, but I'm never going to settle. And Tyler is accused of assault. And Barkley said that he used bodily force against him. They both had different versions. And in the end, it turns out that they basically ask the other guy if he wants to press charges against Barkley. Yeah. That's how it turns out.

Because apparently the other guy made no physical motions. He could say whatever he want, but Barkley started hitting the guy. So apparently you're not allowed to do that. Seems like. Yeah. So apparently this guy said that he wasn't sure. Jeb Taylor is his name. Wasn't positive that he wanted to sure jeb taylor is his name wasn't positive uh that he wanted to

that he wanted to press charges though didn't didn't wasn't positive about it um yeah uh this tyler said he had to go to cleveland to meet with prosecutors and all that and he says quote i really don't want to see charles barkley get arrested and detained for this he would have to come back for cleveland and get arraigned in two weeks. He'd miss the Olympics. So he says, I don't want the U.S. Olympic team to suffer. Literally, I want to watch the Dream Team so I can't press charges. That's what he said.

You know what? He doesn't. Somebody in his family said if they lose because Charles Barkley is in there... Everyone's going to be pissed at you. You'll have the whole country hating you. Yeah, that's not good. They all want to see the Dream Team.

But he does sue. He doesn't press, but he sues okay he sues for fifty thousand dollars here saying that barkley punched him team goes eight no one's a gold medal fucking obviously because listen to listen to what the final 12 are on the standings u.s uh former yugoslavia lithuania australia g, Brazil, Croatia, China, Argentina, Puerto Rico, Angola, South Korea. That's who they dunked on. Yeah, Shaq and fucking Shaq and Olajuwon were dunking on 0 and 7 South Korea because that's what they were 0 and 7 for not to be racist, but for obvious reasons.

It's just not. I mean, they're not on 12 people that look like Kim Jong reasons it's just not i mean they're not talking on 12 people that look like kim jong-un there's just not they're not i get that there's obviously they're not a bunch of fucking five foot four people on the basketball team i understand that but i'm sure there's not a lot of seven footers there i don't think there's a lot of shacks there is my point and that's not against south korea that's against everybody he's a fucking anomaly of the universe if you've got seven footers they don't look like shack they look like more like yaoming or skinnier yeah that's against everybody right he's a fucking anomaly of the universe if you've got seven footers they don't look like shaq they look more like yao ming or skinnier yeah that's yeah they

look exactly look like akima lajo right there you go uh now uh this is the year space jam comes out he plays himself in space jam obviously which kind of cements him as a mainstream star and he'll pop up in cameos i'm not going to go through him but he pops up in cameos all over the place charles barkley oh throughout the 90s yeah he was early shots he's in a bunch of stuff will just pop up for a minute lame beer punching each other in a bar for whatever reason yeah he's like he's like what ron jeremy was 10 years later he would just pop up in movies that's like oh is that that weird guy yeah is it that weird guy who fucks everybody yeah apparently against their will i just say possibly against their will that we know now maybe so august 19th 1996 he's traded by the suns for a 1999 second round draft pick to the rockets for chucky brown he's traded with the draft pick for

chucky brown mark bryant sam cassell and robert Oh, no. Quite the crew there. Apart from Robert. Robert Ori's got like fucking 12 rings. Cassell was a fucking money player, too. Cassell was great. Fast. Three-point shooter. He's a fucking clutch of shit, too. He was nasty. He was a guy that championships just followed that guy.

What a face. Boy, was he good. He looked like he was choking to death. He was about to go. That's what it looked like. You were squeezing his neck real hard arnold schwarzenegger that got tossed out in total recall yeah almost right there right there so uh this is career period number four the houston period this is the last four years again

the sun's superstar mainstream goes to houston becomes fat old player remember that yeah he becomes like fat old guy that doesn't jump anymore like overnight it was weird second he put those weird houston stripes on the 90s he couldn't jump anymore an ugly mustard and red that was it over with i don't know why so this team was barkley uh matt bullard clyde drexler mario ellie othella harrington the other eddie johnson not already johnson the good one poor eddie This team was Barkley, Matt Bullard, Clyde Drexler, Mario Ellie, Othello Harrington, the other Eddie Johnson, not our Eddie Johnson. The good one. Poor Eddie Johnson.

The one who's who's Skip Bayless ruined his career. Yeah. And when bad Eddie Johnson just died recently. Thank God. When he died, they still showed. Stop it. Oh, absolutely. Poor fucking guy.

Oh, people tweeted it at me. The fucking picture of the story eddie johnson died it's fucking good eddie johnson playing and i'm like that's not him do two google searches not just one go is that the guy is a check check poor bastard because the picture they showed by the time that picture was taken, the other Eddie Johnson was already in prison for life. So that's not him. Just check on it. So, yeah, Randy Livingston, Sam Mack, Akeem Olajuwon, Sadal Threat, Kevin Willis, a lot of guys.

Still a good team. Oh, a real good team. Yeah, they were 57 and 25, as a matter of fact. They win in the first round against the Timberwolves, seven-game series against the Sonics, and then the Western Conference Finals they lose in the first round against the timberwolves seven game series against the sonics and then the western conference finals they lose to the jazz who are really coming on strong at that point they played the bulls and lost exactly now chuckster here uh 19.2 points a game in his first season in houston but 13.5 rebounds oh over the next three he'll never get above 20 points a game again and he'll go down to 14.5

by his last no season but still 10 and a half rebounds a game somehow so he never has a season under 10 rebounds a game except for his first season when he was a rookie when he was a rookie and that because he wasn't playing that much yeah he averages for his career 11.7 a game which is pretty impressive he's an all-star this year still, though. This is his last year as an all-star as well. He's getting in on reputation of being Charles Barkley. By the next year, they're like, nope, he's too fat. So, makes $4,695,000

this year. $97.98. Now, October 26, 1997, he is at Phineas Fogg's both with PHs in uh in church street station in orlando oh boy at 2 a.m oh okay when i give you a name of a bar in a time in a city what does that mean yeah here comes where listen for the sirens so um apparently this everything broke out about 2 a.m

when barkley chased a man that people say threw a glass at a woman who was sitting at Barkley's table. This is when Barkley picked this man up. Jorge Lugo is his name and threw him through a plate glass window. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Picked him up off the ground and literally like a fucking old cowboy movie. Yeah. Threw the man through a plate

glass window you don't throw anybody at glass expecting them the glass to stop them no you know what he was doing yeah and plate glass he could have killed the guy yeah like that could have killed him that's dangerous they could have guillotined doesn't shatter no it could have stabbed him yeah i mean my mother her friend when i was a kid her son died he was like four years old he went through a plate glass window brother no no my mother's friend's okay son okay when i was a kid her son died he was like four years old he went through a plate glass window brother no no my mother's friend's okay son okay when i was a kid we were like almost the same age i was like you never told me that you lost a plate glass window no we were like five i think and uh this kid went through the window and uh he got a couple scrapes like on his hand it was a plate glass window but they thought that he was fine but they took him to the hospital

anyway because they're like let's just get him checked out make sure there's no glass stuck in his hands and stuff bleeding and turns out a tiny tiny little shard of glass went into his chest and punctured his heart oh my god he was thought he was fine there's like oh yeah you're fine he died on the way to the hospital didn't even make it there just he just died they just looked back and he was dead and uh that's why a little piece of glass went in his heart from the plate glass it's fuck so it happens man plate glass is dangerous it is why they don't fucking use it anymore the reason yeah that's the reason why it's fucking a weapon yeah so yeah this is scary shit your house is strapped it's no shit any you don't need a gun just throw someone through your window you're done

so apparently barkley arrived at the bar between 11 and 11 30 an off-duty officer was working there and he said that barkley had been relaxing and signing autographs and all that sort of shit they said this guy also said that he saw barkley trying to avoid a conversation a confrontation at one point he said he was sitting at a table it was barkley clyde drexler and a couple others and uh apparently lugo came up this guy and started shouting and cursing. And I guess Barkley ignored this person, just ignored him. And so somebody started to confront this man, and Barkley told them to just ignore him, just ignore him, just ignore him.

He'll go away. He's used to this shit. People talk shit to him all the time. He said, this woman said, quote, Charles grabbed me. He said, leave it alone. They're just trying to cause problems but so the guy ended up going away but then he came back and he threw a glass and hit this woman in the jaw oh yeah with the glass knocking her off her chair and barkley got pissed off yeah at that obviously um that's my money maker then he took off and this woman said that she watched charles barkley

chase outside after this fucking guy um so apparently that once he got outside the cops were there and they put him in cuffs so this woman says he was fine they started putting him in cuffs he gave them his wrists he respected the officers so apparently um he said they said all of a sudden this is what this guy says all of a sudden he finds himself being chased and hunted and literally picked up and thrown through a window like a sack of potatoes he is five foot two 110 pounds oh jesus he's a tiny tiny tiny man why is this kid starting fights that's what i mean now this dummy this guy's lawyer said he did not throw the ice or the glass it's not to say somebody didn't but it wasn't him okay that's what I mean. You dummy. This guy's lawyer said he did not throw the ice or the glass. It's not to say somebody didn't, but it wasn't him.

Okay. That's what he says. The police report says five witnesses, including a bar employee, said they saw Lugo throw the glass at Barkley and hit a woman in the face instead because he's a shit athlete, apparently. Right. Because he's 5'2". Yeah. He just couldn't make it.

Hopefully his parents didn't tell him he could be Michael Jordan. Right. Yeah, he just couldn't make it. Hopefully his parents didn't tell him he could be Michael Jordan. So they said that this wasn't like an alcohol-related thing. But an off-duty officer said, the off-duty officer was outside, said they spotted Lugo running toward the front with Barkley in pursuit. The officer grabbed Lugo with Barkley tugging at his arm. The officer said he told Barkley, Charles, I'll handle this. Let go.

Charles, let me take care of this. And Barkley responded, I his arm. The officer said he told Barkley, Charles, I'll handle this. Let go. Charles, let me take care of this. And Barkley responded, I will not hurt him. I just want to talk to him. So the officer turned and radioed for assistance. That's when. So he took an arm off him. Barkley yanked him out of the officer's hand, picked him up and threw him through a fucking window right in front of the cop. That is crazy.

That's not talking charles or as the police officer puts it talking about lugo quote i looked up and saw the arrestee holding the victim up in the air by his arms at which time the arrestee threw the victim at a plate glass window he just fucking picked him up and tossed his ass through a window that's awesome uh yeah after lugo went through the window the cop said quote i grabbed the arrestee and pulled him away from the victim who had slumped to the ground and was bleeding from a laceration in his right arm he barkley taunted him the report said the first time barkley told him quote you got what you deserve you don't respect me i hope you're hurt that's what he said and then he walked away but then came back to lugo to yell at him again quote for all i

care you can lay there and die you don't get to say that oh god yeah he did oh my god yeah he said fuck that shit he said he was pissed off and he said quote i'm not gonna worry about the charges whatever happens i'll deal with it doesn't give a fuck oh that's amazing i hope you're hurt and right next to it i'm not going to do a whole the sales jimmy but right next to this article yeah is a hilarious oriental you can't put that in the oriental massage spot in an article about charles barkley elkheart indiana open from nine to midnight in case you really need that late night massage.

You know, you're working real late. Jesus Christ. Okay. Oriental. Oriental. Massage. So, Barkley, after the whole thing, tells reporters, I'm always a target, but I'll never back down.

The public does not have a right to do things to you. If you bother me, I'm going to whip your ass. I believe you. Fair enough. The guy threw ice in my face, and I slammed his ass into a window. I'm not denying that. I defended myself. He got what he deserved.

You can't rip a man from police custody. You can either fuck him up or the cops take him, but you can't take him away from the cops to fuck him up, because then you're arrested. That's not smart. You're a village with pitchforks and fucking knives at that point. You can't do that. You can't do that.

He said, what they said happened, happened. What he did was inappropriate. I'm going to defend myself. Let there be no debate. That's a myth. Let there be no debate. He'd do it again. Yep. that's a bit let there be no debate he'd do it again yep he uh got released on six thousand

dollars bail after clyde drexler bailed him out which is pretty fucking funny yeah he's charged with aggravated battery and resisting arrest without violence uh aggravated battery is a felony yeah that's no joke he's up for like prison time for this shit so uh charles barkley or uh clyde drexler said it's very unfortunate that it happened. He was certainly provoked. So there's that. He was there. He provoked him. He's up for a felony talking about, I did it.

I did it. What happened happened, motherfucker. That is scary. Now, he reaches an out-of-court settlement with the man who drops criminal charges against him. Right. But he says that basically the lawyer for the other man says there's been an amicable resolution of the civil case basically my client signed a declination of pros of prosecution not prostitution which is what i was going to say he's decided he doesn't want to be a prostitute

yeah julio lugo doesn't want to be a prostitute he was drafted jorge lugo he refuses julio lugo's the other wife beater shortstop so hilarious yeah they said that he signed the agreement orlando police recommended that lugo should be charged with battery also and uh that's how that worked but barkley is still charged with like uh with the resisting arrest thing because you can't rip a man that's not up to him anymore whether he wants to press charges at that point the cops are mad at you yeah he was ours is not something they want to say often so later in court he is fined in order to make community service visits to two children's programs and uh to settle the charges here the judge says to him your sanctions are community service and a fine do you have any regrets charles says quote yeah i regret we weren't on a higher floor i wish he went out of a

balcony i wish i would have thrown him multiple stories to the to the sidewalk rather than through a first floor that's charles that's charles to a judge in court he doesn't give a fuck that's what he doesn't say this shit and then in court court, oh, we'll be all humble. He gets in there. Wish we were on a higher floor, Your Honor. I don't give a fuck. Wish it was a balcony. Okay. Ten up. Ten up. So, 97-98 Rockets, 41-41. They lose in the first round of the playoffs to the Jazz, who will go on to lose to the

Bulls. $2,250,000 for Chuckster that year. July 1998. Is he an underpaid athlete? He is underpaid. Okay. In his in his prime feels underpaid as fuck in his prime he was way underpaid in his prime michael jordan was making 30 million dollars a year and charles barthley was making three that's crazy it's crazy i don't know why when he's the the other face yeah like i know he got bonuses too but still it's not that's way underpaid yeah I know he made a shitload from endorsements.

I'm not saying he didn't make the money, but in basketball. Pippen probably paid more, right? Oh, Pippen made more than twice as much as Charles Barkley. Unbelievable. And he was a good player, but he wasn't a Barkley-level superstar. He just wasn't. July 1998, he's being sued by a woman. Filed a $3 million lawsuit against him,

accusing him of throwing her against a restaurant wall last year after she complained he was smoking in a non-smoking area. He does love cigars. He does. Anna Adams said she also complained that he was taking chairs from the table he was sitting at with her husband and guests away from her table at Regine's restaurant in houston uh he claims that she that he grabbed her she claims he grabbed her and threw her

against a wall when she attempted to leave causing severe bruising on her neck and shoulders she said her husband tried to come to her aid and he was also assaulted of course he was i mean he's not gonna not be what do you think's gonna happen happen so yeah their lawyer says that she had to be treated the following day for injuries and said quote we just wanted to make sure we had everything thorough before we filed that's why it took so long and based on all the interviews we believe the

incident actually occurred it will be up to a jury of 12 citizens to tell Charles Barkley he can't beat up women Charles Barkley says quote I don't know anything about the lawsuit, and I don't care. End quote. So don't give a fuck. Next question. I will push successful Houston business people out of my way

to get chairs to smoke in. My chair to smoke in where I can't smoke. 98-99 season. This was the strike-shortened season. So the Rockets are 31-19, which is pretty good. They lose to the Lakers in the first round of the playoffs. Charles makes what I believe was a

veteran minimum deal here of $1 million this year, which is weird, man. That's so strange. That is weak. That's weak, yeah. I mean, he only used 16.1 points and 12.3 rebounds a game that's worth more than a million dollars yeah the guy goes 16 and 12 now they'll say he's a fucking

monster superstar he'll be one of the biggest stars in the league and that was chuck you know fat and off fat and old and fucking off and you know smoking in restaurants being way more worried about where the cigar smoking section was right This year they go 34-48. Not a good year for the Rockets. And as we know, Chuck gets off the train when it starts to slow down here. This is Chuck's last season. He makes $9 million this season. There you go.

I don't know if that was a balloon at the end, if he made it that far. Backloaded deal. Yeah, 14.5 points that year, 10.5 rebounds. Total for his career, 22.1 points and 11.7 rebounds a game. 3.9 assists, 1.5 steals, which is a lot for a power forward, as we'll talk about. Even.8 blocks. Average is almost a block a game his whole career. Total career earnings, Scottie Pippen made, I think, $107 million or something.

$43,608,000. That's fucked up. That's obscene. That's crazy. Jordan made that in a year and a half 43 million 608 000 that's fucked up that's obscene that's crazy jordan made that in a year and a half yeah in the 90s that's granted it's a lot of fucking money it's a lot of money but compared to what other people were getting that is not they were saying scotty pippen was a super underpaid player back then what about fucking chuckster jesus charles barkley pissed away 20 to 30 million dollars in gambling. Only made $40 in his career. Minus 10% for agents. Minus taxes. Minus a third for taxes.

He gave all of his salary away and more. Every dime of it. Wow. He played just to gamble. And then his endorsements have funded the rest of his lifestyle. You, Matt. When he retires, he's the second all-time. He is still now.

The second all-time leader in steals for the power forward position all time behind who i don't know that one but i'll get to other one that i do know okay and the and leader of the highest all-time steal per game average for the power forward position really has the most steals per game the other guy played for like 20 years i got it but he has the most steals per game of anybody in the power forward position of all time. He is also the all-time NBA leader in rebounding for anyone listed at 6'6 or under. Still. Still.

And he's not 6'6. Again, he's 6'4. And he's the most there. I think Elgin Baylor was second in that list. It was like 6'5. Could it have been Sean Kemp with the steals? I don't think so. No? No.

No, no. He didn't play defense. Well, yeah, I guess you're right. You can't steal. You can't be running down the end for a fucking hoop if you're stealing. You know, let Peyton steal. That's his job. That's his job.

So right away, he gets a job with TNT. Yeah. That was like immediately, and that's where we see him now always. He writes another book in 2000. Oh, no, this, he doesn't write a book. He wrote the foreword for Rick Riley's book. There's a sports illustrated columnist, a columnist called, it's called the life of Riley.

And he said, quote, this is Barkley's quote on the inside of all the people in sports. I'd like to throw through a plate glass window. Riley's not one of them. It's a shame throw. It's a shame though. Skinny white boys look real aerodynamic.

That's funny. Uh, March of, right. That for Rick Riley thinking it was was pat and then he's like who the fuck's rick fuck's rick riley again oh i don't know him fuck shit all right is he i'm sure he's skinny and white anyway so march 2001 uh his jersey is officially retired by auburn university and uh the next week the philadelphia 76ers also officially retire Charles Barkley's jersey. Really? Yeah. Number 34.

Gone in both of them. How about that? 2002. He's got another book out. He, this, he wrote with the, it was edited in commentary,

I guess it was a book he wrote with Michael Wilbon, who was the guy on, pardon the interruption. That guy. Yeah. It's the Chicago guy. He's yeah. He wrote a book with him called.

I may be wrong, but I doubt it, which makes sense for Charles. Yeah. 2004. chicago guy he's uh yeah he wrote a book with him called i may be wrong but i doubt it which makes sense yeah for charles yeah 2004 the phoenix suns put him in the sun's ring of honor as well so 34 is retired here too houston though no they don't give a shit well he wasn't 34 in houston even so it's not like it was there four i think oh i think you're right yeah it was his right it was his olympic or was he 13 and eight what was it wow fuck was he in the olympics jordan was eight in the olympics i thought or was he nine uh you might be right there too i don't know so 2005 that made no sense any of

the numbers he writes another book guy is like a fucking how many books are you pumping out what else do you have to say he he never shuts up he was number four in the olympics number four okay so he was number four so that's where he was with houston also number four okay yeah i couldn't remember so anyway this book is called who's afraid of a large black man which is a great title and uh it's a collection of interviews with entertainment business sports people basically so it's kind of a one of those type of things and michael wilbon again was contributing to that book okay 2006 he is elected to the basketball hall of fame not long it's five years after you're talking okay so 2006

class it's it's him a coach named gino uhro fuck Oro Rema Jesus I don't know who the hell that is he's all that's old time I mean he's so old he's Italian how many Italians

in basketball you know what I'm saying and not even hiding it Gino yeah he didn't even change his name Chuckster Joe Dumars goes in with him

as well as a coach named Sandro Gamba Dave Gavitt who's an executive and Dominique Wilkins also going in. So Dumars, Barkley, and Wilkins. That's awesome.

It's quite the little squad. It's quite the three-on-three there. Now, 2007, during a broadcast of a game, he's sitting at courtside with Marv Albert, and Dick Bavetta is one of the refs. Dick Bavetta is like 114 years old at this point. He's like 80. But at the time, he's 67, and he looked 100. Dick Bavetta is one of the refs. Dick Pavetta is like 114 years old at this point. This is like 80, but at the time

he's 67, and he looked 100. Dick Pavetta is one of those guys. He's in great shape. He runs backwards as fast as 23-year-old athletes run forwards. I mean, he's amazing, but still, he's old. So apparently at the time,

Marv Albert said to Barkley, quote, I believe Dick would beat you in a foot race oh on tv so in response to that barkley challenged him to a foot race and uh at the 2007 all-star weekend for five thousand dollars uh yeah of course there's gambling involved of course i can't get into it if it's not gambling uh the winner was to choose the charity which the money would be donated the nba agreed to pitch in an additional fifty thousand dollars and tnt threw in twenty five thousand dollars holy shit big charity thing they raced for three and a half lengths of the basketball court and barkley eventually won okay so i hope you'd be this nearly 70 year old man and also uh he probably said we're gonna keep

running until you quit and then i win i'm'm still going. Right. I'll catch up. I can still run. And then they kissed. They did. It was good. Of course. May of 2008. He's got a tiny gambling debt.

Yeah. Just a teensy one. The Wynn Casino there in Las Vegas. Yeah. They filed paperwork against him to get him to pay back $400,000 in gambling markers. Jesus Christ. They extended to him. Yeah, they persuaded the Clarks County District Attorney's bad check unit to open a criminal investigation.

And yeah, they do that. They investigate gambling debts in the same manner as bad checks in Vegas. So the district attorney said Barkley will be notified of the investigation and given an opportunity to make restitution to avoid being charged with a felony. attorney said Barkley will be notified, notified of the investigation and given an opportunity to make restitution to avoid being charged with a felony. So you can either pay them back or be arrested and charged with a felony as his option.

Uh, he says, quote, we prosecute cases like this every day. Mr. Barkley will be treated the same as everybody else. Uh, I guess in the four page lawsuit,

they said they had extended a four $100,000 markers to Barkley to each on October 18th and 19th. And those are the ones he didn't pay back. They said they had extended a four $100,000 markers to Barkley, two each on October 18th and 19th. And those are the ones he didn't pay back. They said by $400,000 loss weekend weekend, not even his money. Other people by taking $400,000 in credit and refusing to pay the amount despite repeated attempt. Sparkly is wrongfully exercised dominion and control over Wynn's property. Oh, my. The suit, yes, $400,000 there. Fuck, for a weekend, Jake.

Later in the month, he comes out and says he's paid his $400,000 gambling debt. Yeah, they said the civil lawsuit remains open, but $400,000, he paid it back. There's that. He said, quote, true to my word, I sent a $400,000 cashier's check overnight to win Las Vegas, which they confirmed they received. I was unaware of the additional 10% processing fee from the district attorney's office

and will make restitution on that promptly because they said he owes another 40 grand. 40 grand. That's a fee for the DA. God damn it. They're getting a cut. Yeah. That's, he's just wetting his beak right that's

like what you'd give a mob boss like that's his fucking taste or your agent kick 10 upstairs yeah that's what it is man wow uh spokeswoman woman for the casino said it did receive the check and send it was sent it to the district attorney to tell them as well uh they did say that they had a civil complaint going against him they did say say, quote, we've been paid in full. So look at that. We've been in contact. We expect a $40,000 check within the next few days for the other thing. Barkley says, I screwed up and I didn't pay them in a significant amount of time.

Could they have handled it differently? Yes, but it was my fault. He's like, you couldn't have. You didn't have to put it on TV. You didn't have to call the AP. Yeah, I mean, you know, fucking UPI didn't need to run it, but I get it. He's got Harvey Levin on TV at five in the afternoon talking about I'm broke. Fuck you.

I'm not broke. I'm just an exorbitant spender. So his statement on gambling here is, quote, I like to go into Vegas. It's a fun place. But you know what? I've got to stop gambling. That's the bottom line. I'm not going to gamble anymore.

For right now, the next year or two, I'm not going to gamble. So he starts with, I'm done for right now, next year or two. If I can get through the month, it's good. Depends on who's in the Super Bowl. I'm going to be honest with you. You never know. I don't know what the points are. He says, I have no money problems whatsoever.

Nobody's coming after me for money. I screwed up and didn't pay them in the right amount of time. That's all. It's not because I didn't have the money. I just fucking am too lazy to pay them. I didn't feel like it. So he says, just because I can afford to lose money doesn't mean I should do it. So maybe he should stop gambling, he said.

October 2008, he tells CNN that he plans to run for governor of Alabama in 2014. He said, quote, I can't screw up Alabama. We're number 48 and everything. This is great. This is the greatest thing I've ever heard. Can't screw up Alabama. We're number 48 and everything in Arkansas and Mississippi aren't going anywhere. So he's like, I can't fuck it up worse than it is they're so far behind alabama i'll be fine i'll be fine i mean you've been to arkansas shit

so uh december 31st 2008 he's in old town scottsdale which is in scottsdale arizona if you don't know it is a rich part of phoenix it's yeah scottsdale's which is in Scottsdale, Arizona. If you don't know, it is a rich part of Phoenix. It's yeah. Scottsdale is a rich Phoenix suburb. And Old Town Scottsdale is where these people go to give each other venereal diseases and drinking close quarters and douchey bars. They try to be they try to call themselves the the most Old West city in America. And it's because the diseases there are cured by penicillin yeah

because only because syphilis still runs rampant that's the only reason why it's the most old west city it's because you could probably still catch polio rampant polio so he was partying with uh michael strahan and jaleel white right so what a fucking threesome he's hanging out with urkel and michael strahan which is a really weird. The guy from the show and the guy from just Urkel. So he he was hanging out with them and he took off from them, left them at the bar and he was stopped by a police officer. This was a Gilbert police officer who was working with a DUI task force in Scottsdale, where a bunch of the cities have their own deal there.

There's so many drunks there. They're like, we'll bring them in from other places because we don't have enough people for this. We're important fucking drunks here. Yeah. This is at 127 AM. Again, not good. It's at 6th Avenue and 75th Street, which I know you know exactly where that is. Yeah.

He apparently rolled through the stop sign right there that is exactly where that is right there next to fucking state of scott's yep it's the one it's the road to fucking go in so he ran that stop sign probably to just turn right back on the fucking uh scott still road there yeah or no on to uh drink water is that drink water no i'm talking the east west oh shay uh whatever camelback camelback what did i say shay it's camelback it's right there yeah camelback why did i say I'm talking the East West. Oh. The Shea. Camelback. Camelback. What did I say? Shea.

It's Camelback. It's right there. Yeah, Camelback. Or Indian school. Why did I say Shea? Might be Indian school. It might be Indian school down there, but whatever. It's that right there. That's the one he ran through.

So this guy said they pulled him over after he ran it, and this is fucking awesome. It's a 2005 Infiniti. He realized it's Charles Barkley. He's driving that? 2005 Infinity for some reason. Who knows? He gambled away his other car. I don't know. They said Mr. Barkley was administered the standard field sobriety tests after

the odor of intoxicating liquor was detected. They pulled him over. Yeah, he was, they said, bloodshot, watery eyes, smell of alcohol, fucking drunk yeah they said the officer said quote i asked if he had been drinking and he said yes i have i mean come on yeah he's not gonna lie to you no he said he said i had a couple of drinks he told a police officer at that point that look i rolled through the stop sign not because i'm drunk because i'm not because

i'm fine i'm just in a hurry because i'm on my way here it is quote you want to know the truth i was going to drive around the corner and get a blow job that's what he said that's really great and that he has had a blow job from a woman this woman that he's going to go see before and quote it was the best one he ever had so yeah he tells the cop look i got the best blowjob in the world waiting for me around this corner so that hurry this up you would roll through the stop sign too is what i'm getting at so uh they were like yeah but you still you're drunk though get out of the car like the blowjob's fine and all he wouldn't allow the breathalyzer test at the scene charles though he uh he they wouldn't do that.

They said there was a able to establish probable cause for his arrest. He was taken to the DUI center there, which as you go, your blood, it's going down and down. And where there you have to consent to have blood drawn at that point. So they he does that. And we'll find out what that was. The cop said he was very cooperative and respectful yeah he just wanted his blowjob that's all i mean on a blowjob you want a blowjob he's out there looking for one he was drunk he told urkel i'm gonna get me a blowjob right yeah

sorry michael strahan and urkel i gotta go that's how great this blowjob is you'll stop hanging out with michael strahan and urkel that doesn't sound's how great this blowjob is he'll stop hanging out with Michael Strahan and Urkel tell me that doesn't sound like a Chappelle show sketch sorry Michael Strahan and Urkel I gotta go get this blowjob and he gets up and leaves doesn't it so just a weird thing that he would come like in a dream sequence or something it's unbelievable he said that Barkley was given no special treatment they sent him home at 3 a.m in a taxi probably to the blowjob I would assume because it was only an hour and a half hopefully she's still up i don't know so uh i don't know man there's a difference between 1 30 and 3 a.m you know what i mean yeah that's a big difference

that's a little hour and a half but those 90 minutes fucking matter yeah so what did he have in his car when he stopped uh wine coolers and bear claws what swear to god wine coolers and bear claws bear claws or white claws no no bear claw donuts not bear claw not white claws he had donuts and wine coolers donuts for him wine coolers for blood job lady that's what that is about she said sure i'll do it but you gotta bring me some wine coolers and he's like cool i need bear claws anyway that was an impulse buy right he's got the wine coolers. And he's like, cool, I need bear claws anyway. That was an impulse buy, right? He's got the wine coolers on register and they're hanging on that little strip.

And he's like, three of these. Give me all of those. Just clean it out. Just give me that strip. Dump them in a fucking bag. So he declined the blood alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. So they did the blood test.

Turns out that he is blood alcohol 0.149 which is well over the limit smashed and that's by the time he got to the station right from scottsdale so yeah that's it's higher he almost had an extreme almost a double there so almost doubled it up yeah shockster double doubles are his thing he's in in burgers on the court and everything he did make a brief statement he said quote i'm disappointed that i put myself in that situation the scottsdale police were fantastic i will not comment any further as it is a legal matter yeah so yeah he goes he's driving away 3 a.m probably 320 he gets to this chick's house he's like still got my bear claws that's a good thing

gonna need that no the six pack four pack let's go four pack that's yeah it's a four pack munching on a bear claw munching on the bear claw knocks on the door and uh he opens as he as he knocked on the door too he's like man something smells good as fuck in there what is that i don't know is she cooking up she's cooking me some food and blowing me this is crazy door opens and it's not the lady at all it's the shawarma man she he found him at home this is where he lives yeah it's the shawarma man's girlfriend and he says how is it you've come to arrive here why are you here three three a.m o'clock in the morning you come come to stick dick in. No.

No. I tell you so many times. No, you don't fuck other people. Why? Why? Why you fuck giant? No, you go. You go.

We just fixed front window. You get out. You go. You have no time for sign. Say closed. Front window. Say fixed. Fuck you.

Go. You go. Don't start take coat and shoes off now. No, I take. I get naked too. Sign say close. Schwarma man takes his pants off to fight. He fucks out and fuck around.

Poof. And in a poof of Schwarma and peppers and things, he's gone. And Chuck is, he's like, I had more than I drink. More than I thought to drink. Fuck. Poof. So right after that, T-Mobile drops him. As a sponsor? Before that before that he was that was one

of his uh endorsements that's right because he was doing the family plan thing yeah i remember duane wade uh-huh uh he's doing the family plan for the fave five plan that's what it was and uh the whole thing was duane wade trying to talk charles barkley and making him one of his faves yeah make me into one of your faves come on man call you uh unlimited that's what it was yeah i was like i don't want to talk to you that much t-mobile said our ad campaign featuring charles barkley has been successful in driving awareness of our popular my faves offering and he has been a vocal advocate for our products and service but given the recent developments for the time being we've replaced TV ads featuring Mr. Barkley with a more general market advertising.

As he works through his personal matters, we will evaluate where to go from here. We heard that his faves are Bear Claws, wine coolers, drinking, and blowjobs. I wish I could call this episode Bear Claws and Blowjobs because that would be the fucking best. Can I call it like with an asterisk in there? Bear Claws and Blowjobs. Can you put Blowjobs on itunes let me do that if i put asterisks in it i'll do we're gonna figure this out there are too many sex podcasts for that not to be a thing yeah right yeah i'll look it up we'll see maybe it's gonna be that because that's their claws and blowjob that's amazing like bed knobs and broomsticks yeah that's exactly how i was thinking of it exactly totally exactly what i was thinking oh boy so they said that he'll be off the air on tnt for

a few weeks as well he uh was apologetic and he told it's important this is an important time for charles as he deals with the legal personal issues that confront him same thing basically back in a couple months don't worry about that um when he gets back on tv he said quote this is just my bad no excuses i think that a dui is unacceptable that can't happen and i got to challenge other people not just celebrities or jocks you have to really think before getting behind the wheel after you've been drinking uh he says that he may be facing jail time and he says quote i think it's going to be good for me alcohol counseling he said it's going to be part of his plea i think it's going to be good for me to be honest i need to make sure drinking is not a problem for me i just want some professionals to talk to me about it if they tell me to stop drinking then uh i'll have to stop drinking yeah which i don't know

why they wouldn't tell you that yeah charles you've gambled 30 million dollars away and got arrested to get a 3 a.m. blowjob? Dude, stop drinking. I can tell you that. I'm not a psychologist. You walked away from hanging out with Jaleel White, man. Yeah, what are you doing? That guy's awesome.

That's great. Oh, man. I'd rather hang out with him than get a blowjob from a hooker. I mean, from some strange woman. Asked if he could do that, he said said i feel i can do anything that i put my mind to and so uh yeah he said that he would start using a driver when he goes out in public it would not get behind the wheel after drinking he said i let so many people down it just stinks watching the shows and not being there i really screwed this up yeah in court the judge says he

pleads guilty yeah judge says you sir may fuck off 10 days in tent city right so uh five suspended though he got he only got five suspended they usually suspend nine of them then he made a deal to go to alcohol rehab to suspend two more days so he gets three days he spends three days in tent city three days yeah no um and the funny part is about this uh this is where i will laugh at charles barkley this is the guy who uh fucking praise of joe arpaio from charles barkley was on the cover of joe of charles bark of joe arpaio's book in 1996 unbelievable now you get to stay at the tents that are ridiculously not fucking fit for humans yeah and uh he said that he arpaio says he chose to put him there because he didn't want to be accused of offering special privileges for celebrities he says i'm taking a lot of heat

for putting illegal immigrants in the tents how am i going to discriminate and not put high profile people in the tents i bet you don't put anybody in a fucking tent, you asshole? Put them inside. God damn it. When are you going to fucking die and blow away in the dust already? It's 119 outside. Jesus Christ.

You've got people that got.08 DUI. Get out of here with that shit. Fucking jerk. 2010, he tweets something that is very much one of those tweets that don't age well. And it is, quote, Bill Cosby. Can it?

Is it? Is it really you? What an honor to be in your presence. Kneels in front of Bill Cosby. Oh, my God. Don't do that. You know what? I put kneels in Bill Cosby.

That's February 19th, 2010. I found that tweet, and I'm like, that's hilarious. I got to have that in the show, even though it's not really part of it. Bill Cosby, another guy who appreciates a blow job speaking of appreciating blow jobs 2011 chuck gets a new sponsor weight watchers really oh yeah he said quote things have gotten out of hand i was always joked and complained about my home state of al complained complained about my home state of alabama of being fat well i forgot i was fat he said i don't think it's realistic to get back to my playing weight of 250 pounds which wasn't realistic either uh he says uh that i just need to get healthier

and hopefully others get healthier that's my real goal not be such a fat fuck november 2012 he announced that he was contemplating retirement from broadcasting oh he wasn't sure yeah he's like he said quote now i'm like dude you've been doing this for 13 years and if i make it to the end of the contract it'll be 17 years 17 years is a long time it's a lifetime in broadcasting i personally have to figure out the next challenge for me uh then after he said he planned to retire he ended up signing another contract yeah Then, after he said he planned to retire, he ended up signing another contract. And now he says he wants to retire in 2023 when he's 60. He'll be 60, huh?

He'll be 60. What do you want to bet he gets into politics? I'll bet he does. Probably, yeah. He's been wanting to do that forever. He's so bored, just so bored, watching basketball for millions of dollars and talking about it.

Isn't that boring with other players that you know? What a tough life, Charles. I mean, I feel bad for Charles Barkley and talking about it. Isn't that boring with other players that you know? What a tough life, Charles. I mean, I feel bad for Charles Barkley. I really do. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Charles Barkley, attorney at Charles Barkley & Associates in Charlotte, North Carolina. Hilarious.

Charles Barkley, chief operations officer at Endeavor Enterprises in Lubbock, Texas. Wow. Yeah. Charles Barkley, realtor. This always... Charles Barkley selling Chief Operations Officer at Endeavor Enterprises in Lubbock, Texas. Wow. Yeah. Charles Barkley, Realtor. This always... Charles Barkley selling houses now? Imagine you saw that sign.

Well, you could see that sign. Realtor at Berkshire Hathaway in Arizona, Phoenix. No kidding. He works here. Selling the big houses with Berkshire. Yeah, sell them. Go to Scottsdale. You'll see Charles Barkley sells houses.

Charles Barkley, 14 years leading exceptional teams, comprehensive finance systems, and data insight in the greater Salt Lake City area. How many people go to fucking meet that guy and they're like, oh, not you. I'll tell you about teams. Teams. The saddest one. Charles Barkley, CISO at Walmart. Poor bastard.

In New York City. A couple more. Poor bastard. New York City. A couple more. Fuck it. Charles Barkley, Associate Director of Enrollment Management Recruiting at University of Chicago. And finally, my personal favorite, Charles Barkley Jr.

Oh, shit. GIS Supervisor at City of Mesa. Oh, fuck. Mesa, Arizona. Charles, want to see him? Yeah. There he is. Not him at all. No, it's an old white guy with john lennon glasses it's pretty fucking funny so january 2017 uh he talked shit about

lebron james really lebron james this is his favorite thing he said he said quote inappropriate whiny all of the above the cleveland cavaliers have given him everything he wanted they have the highest payroll in NBA history. He wanted J.R. Smith last summer. They paid him. He wanted Shumpert last summer. They brought in Kyle Korver. He's the best player in the world.

Does he want all the good players? He doesn't want to compete? He's an amazing player. They're the defending champs. So then LeBron says, quote, I'm not going to let him disrespect my legacy like that i'm not the one who threw somebody through a window i never spat on a kid i never had an unpaid debt in vegas i never say i'm not a role model i never showed up to all-star weekend on sunday because i was in

vegas all weekend partying i've done all i've done for my entire career is represent the nba in the right way 14 years never got into trouble respected the game print that shit also i'm a billionaire yeah i'm gonna make what charles made in his career tonight yeah right now then he says uh lebron i collect one paycheck from this there's the owner uh david griffin the gm i'm the player screw char Barkley. I'm tired of biting my tongue. There's a new sheriff in town. He was tired. February 2017, Chuckster has gone back on his gambling edict here as he is in a high-stakes blackjack game in Mandalay Bay, TMZ reports.

He's got a giant stack of chips in front of him. A casino employee said the chocolate chips that he had were 5,000 each and the yellow ones were one thousand he appears to have about 129 000 chips in front of him and uh they were told that barkley was playing thirty thousand dollar hands imagine the no the panic that would go through your body as they flip another oh god no the fuck is that? I can't look. I can't play. Too stressed. 2018, he says that he invested more than $4 million over the past decade in companies

controlled by his friend, Alabama lawyer Donald V. Watkins Sr., but never got a dime back. He made the statements during a deposition as part of the U.S. Security Exchange Commission's 2016 civil lawsuit that claims Watkins defrauded investors. Barkley said that he invested in these companies because he trusted the guy. He said, quote, But the bottom line is I haven't gotten a dime back and we are proceeding. This thing has been a shock to my system. And to be honest with you, to be honest with you, I consider that Donald has always been a friend to me. And this whole situation is really unfortunate because i've lost a lot of money uh watkins ends up being sentenced you sir may fuck off five years in prison oh boy he got god damn should have threw

somebody through a window does he get money back i don't know if he got his money back but he that guy got five years for charles he's probably happier with that yeah fuck that guy right august of 2019 i found this is just cheap but i found it so i'm putting it in uh he had an expired meter in pennsylvania literally an expired meter yeah in pennsylvania probably in philly i don't maybe yeah march 19th 2020 a man is arrested wearing charles barkley sneakers okay And when? This year. March of 2020. Amar Ellis was arrested after he walked into the Jackson Street Annex, which is a police station, for questioning by

Wildwood police. He was wearing the stolen shoes, which he was there to be questioned for when he went to be questioned for them. Still no shoes. Yep. The guy said, the cop said, quote, it should be noted that the type of shoes have not been made for several years and were given to the victim by his father several years prior and the victim kept them in pristine condition ellis claimed he bought him on the street for ten dollars uh but he's arrested

charged with burglary oh man he's out wearing him wearing this poor kid has collected him for 20 years yeah may 23rd 2020 charles is pulled over for failure to stop at a red light in scottsdale again so oh yeah yeah failure to stop at a red light in scottsdale so he's got that going on and uh that brings us up to date with the chuckster can't get enough fucking watch tv he's on tv like every night of the week arguing with shack arguing with people and he's got tons of jerseys and figures and everything's on ebay plenty of of Chuckster out there. You can watch. Go to YouTube. Pull up Chuck.

Charles Barkley highlights. You can watch old games. It was unbelievable. That is Charles Barkley, everybody. One of our heavy hitters there that we didn't do anything crazy, but he was crazy and fun. Been waiting on that one a long fucking time. He's a party. He's a party.

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and then if you just want to be a producer and have your name mispronounced and uh have good karma you can do that over at paypal using our email address crime and sports at gmail.com again jimmy will butcher your name just the same speaking of that jimmy please i need to know the list of people who would never try to drive to my house at three o'clock in the morning for a blow job please jimmy hit them with hit me with them now this week's executive producers are adam sorber jordan bennett amanda mcpherson matthew reed stacy stevenson chris nelson emily ro Emily Roberts, Melissa Turner. Happy birthday also. Preston Letterman, Larry.

Oh, it's Terry from Portland. Do you remember? Oh, I know Terry. We do. I know Terry. Terry's a good dude. Miss you, Terry. What's up, Terry?

Vanessa Castillo, Christina Hayden, Rio with no last name, Zach Buffalo, Tim Root, and Jesus, John Beccanina. Beccanina. Hey. You know Jimmy's going to screw that up. and, oh Jesus, John, Bechanina, Bechanina. You know Jimmy's going to screw that up. Other producers this week are Thomas Smith, Luane Alshake, Janet, damn it,

Zaleska, John Woodward, Teresa Harris, Reagan Shulkley, Amanda Knight, Jay Burks, Karen Parker, Susan Lackey-Wellman, Jamie with no last name, Peyton Meadows, Brian Killian, Ellie Zotz, I think, and happy birthday, Brett Killian, Wellman, uh, Jamie would know last name, Peyton Meadows, Brian Killian, Ellie Zots, I think,

uh, and happy birthday, Brett Killian. That's his brother. Uh, Brian Kinney, also Darren Pollock, uh,

Holly Harwood. Oh, that's a tough one. That's I'll, I'll never get through that one. Easy. Uh, Catherine Collado,

Jason Toby, Michelle Malone, Nickerson, uh, Amy Clark, Jennifer Crumpet, Crump Lee, whatever. James Marder, Jesse Tayman, Colin Mulligan, shit. Jamie Harder, no, that's Sarah Crawford, Wendy Madden-Mulligan, Hawk Glandford, howkey, I don't know. Rabbi, that's a rabbi, Shmololovich. I don't know why he makes me say that every week. Courtney Jaquay, I think.

Lauren McCann, Madison with no last name. Jen Whalen. Mark Wissmer. He donated both ways. Thanks, Mark. Appreciate it. Lauren Caton. Villa Cutanin.

Oh, never. I'll never get it. Ville, V-I-L-L-E. I don't know how to pronounce that. Spronounce? Whatever. Mandy Hagen. Okay, pronounce, pronounce-L-L-E. I don't know how to pronounce that. Spronounce? Whatever. Mandy Hagen. Okay, pronounce, pronounce.

Corey Kitzmiller. Maddie West. Jessica Rooker. Barbara Howells. Jacqueline Woods. Cardiac with no last name. Josephine Kramer. Jen Murphy.

Wyvern Workshop. Chelsea Morgan's friend Amanda. It's her birthday. Happy birthday. She got her into the show, so she gives a shit. Matt Inman. Clark Emery. Josa.

What is this? Sonia Lee. Sonia Lee Pointer, I think. Valerie Walsh. Melina. Melina Kuhn. Shit. Morgan Eberle.

What is this? Donald Ward. I write terribly and I write. That's a simple name, too. Yeah, but I put the two words together so it looks like Donald Word. Donald Word. We'll go that way. Donald Word.

Mike and Kimberly Billingsley. Michelle Beatty. Malia Milne. Dan Daly. Kathy Jackson. Blair Hopwood. Hopwood. I'm a terrible.

Janice Hill. Dora Rodas. WB. Jamel Thomas. Sergio Ruttmeyer, Jill Vita, Miami Dog Whisperer. He's from Miami, so he speaks to them in Miami. Low tone. Right. Very nicely. Joe Slacker Gentry, Luke Allison, Martine Sesma, Marilyn Mitchell, Deborah Kim, Bailey, Elizabeth Holland,

Aaron Marsalis, Posey. Uh, that's the last name. Shit. Chris Lyle, James and Jimmy fan fiction. Well,

I don't, isn't that like dirty? I don't know what that means. I hope it's not dirty. I hope it's not just, yeah, it's just, maybe we're like saving the world.

Yeah. Jessica Curtis Montgomery, Mayo jr. Uh, Amber Coburn,anky with no last name, Rosalba Avalos, Jen Greishner, Mike Shanahan, probably not. I'm sure it is. Julia Haley, Sarah Surridge, Keegan Kayston, Femma Narcotic, Mouse with no last name, Brian Butcher, Brendan Ables, Jude Kendall, Natasha with no last name, Michael Abbott, Daniel with no last name, Sherry Drescher, Ashley Vio, Matthew, nope, that's Marsha.

What is that? Doomy? Oh, boy. I have terrible writing, man. Ashley Rain DiGiovanna? DiGiovanna. Catherine Claus? I think that's Santa's wife.

Eric Lewis? Kevin what? What did I do? Kivas? Kivas's wife. Eric Lewis. Kevin what? What did I do? Kivas? Kivas Rosner. Rosner. Mark Gutierrez. Alan Vio.

Mary Preston. Marie J. Preston. Kay Whopper or Quopper. I don't know if that's a K. I don't know. Quopper. Yeah. Tessie Hughes.

Tessa Hughes. Candice Buchan. Buchan. Richard McCutcheon. Michael Bertholst burtholst fuck kimberly smith shelby montana uh what is this kelly moore candace johnson barb esposito rachel pietkowski deborah townsend brian with no last name michelle gay eric downing devin bronger sky would no last name em Emily with no last name, A, just the letter. I don't know what it stands

for. Dulce Hall, Clifton Cunningham, Haley Dozier, Kendall Mack, Kyle Whitney, Caitlin Newkirk, John Melberg, Hunter Thompson, Jenna Crowed, happy birthday. Yeah, probably not with an S. Probably Hunter F. Thompson. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jenna Crowed's birthday, so happy birthday. Thomas Crowe's. Julie Slamma. Slowa. I gotta get better at this. Faye with no last name. Amber Farley. Madison Socha.

Bobby Joe Shambly. Shambly. Amy Pierce. Trevor Henson. Stephen Fan. Stephen Fan. Steve, what is this? Steve Dave McGregor.

That's his first name, Steve Dave. Rebecca Kelp, Elizabeth Hawkins, Matthew Bazashore, Jessica McCullough, Erica Boudreault, Amanda Hanson, Hannah Ledvina, Eric Barnes, Jessica Stevens, Leonard Patino, Stephen Bennis, Story with no last name, Hannah Burchell, John, what is this, Gerd, Trudy, okay, this is getting bad, Trudy Jones, I think, Patrick Everston, Crystal Salas, Emma with no last name, Melissa Rust, Allison Bennett, Laura McCabe, Raquel Escobedo, Emily Drenta, Lauren with no last name, Melissa Rust, Allison Bennett, Laura McCabe, Raquel Escobedo, Emily Drenta, Lauren with no last name, Megan and Jay Chiharski, Julie Duncan, Emily Merlino, Laura Stankunas, Zachary Hernandez, Nick with no last name, Taylor Abt, Jody McCall, Nikki Minicone, Carolyn Phillips, God damn it, Michael Hinchley, Renee with no last name, Maricela with no last name, Brian Lauretta, Angie Adams, Serena Hammond, Condor, nope, yeah, Federico, Nick Curtis, what did I do imogen cassie cassidy with no last name luke rogers jacobs sean i think shaw gary mcmichael aaron fib uh tyler uh cat cat loric blake moore levion bell probably not kyle davidi

daniel daniel what is this danielle uh stuhlberg lord jeffrey, Noreen Galindo. He's down at the bottom of the page, everybody. He really writes small and struggles on these. I can't. So the bottom of the page is a real pain in the ass because then my knuckle's on the table. Oh, I get it. And the penmanship gets worse. Are you trying to save papers? Skip two lines.

Go to the next page. Noreen Galindo, Susanna Lee, Jessica Hayden, Chantel Graham, Chase Vedder. Thank you, everyone, for donatingel Graham, Chase Vedder. Thank you, everyone, for donating so Jimmy can get more paper. Sorry. Chase Webelhart. See, and then the hard names are at the bottom of the page, too. I don't know what the fuck.

What am I doing? Top of the page here, and I still can't read it. Robin Riddlebarger, Tyler Burgett, Sarah Visk, Wesley Adams, Carla Broman, Megan Manning, Sierra Asvuewet, how do you have E-E-U-W? That doesn't make any sense. J-W-F-9-6-8, Robert Johnson, Colleen Ferris, Katie Jeffs, probably Warren's daughter. Aaron Heiderbrich,iderbrick uh aaron j emily beckman adam borsma what nicolette caravela john camerson cameron uh align reed kimberly dimartino shanna's friend nicole oh shenan's uh friend nicole from the from the oh okay okay somebody broke the news to me that she has uh breast cancer which makes it worse Friend Nicole. Oh, Shanann's friend Nicole from the... Oh, okay, okay.

Somebody broke the news to me that she has breast cancer, which makes it worse. It's hard to say she overreacted. No, I get it. That sucks. Tina Crowley. Melissa Rafe Theodore. Tessa Douglas. Tamara with no last name.

Magoo365, which is basically me. Alex with no last name. Brian Fawcett. Kyle Beretta. Jennifer Beatty. Alex with no last name. Brian Fawcett. Kyle Beretta. Jennifer Beatys. Beatles. Tessa Douglas. Jacob King.

Justine Zewalt. Whitney Flaska. Brie Romero. Mandy with no last name. Joanna Smiley. Simley. Matt Robinson. Candace Wallace.

Marley with no last name. Emily Murray. Mary Crane. Hammer. Oh, Hammer. Like Hammer Time. Robin Davison. What did I do here? would know last name emily murray mary cramp hammer oh hammer like hammer time hey uh robin davison uh what i do here rachel barters anna would know last name jacob hartwell lindsey reed raven robin kale uh beth lemon lindsey nope that's lisa uh chabrelin chabrelin chaberlain

i don't know jessica would know last name brandon croome loud jeff instead of silent one lindsey nope that's whitney leonard went amy nickel andrew jones heather westerfield matthew mcgeary travis with no last name kiri contiel mark with no last name jen d simio it's italian what are you gonna do let's He's going to mess it up. Crystal Robinson, Christy Edwards, Zach Osei, Larea Roos. Her husband, Levi, had a birthday, and I missed it. Happy birthday, Levi. Hang in there. It gets worse.

Blake Lingman, Patrick Stocklin, Madison Clark, Conrad Ziamski, David Farley, Vanessa Headington, Brooke Trevino, Samantha Smith, Justin Vogler, Michelle Harward, Jenna Phelps, Sean Stanley, Laura Safford, I think, Alana and Mike Bouts, Brianna Wynn, Candace Wallace, Dave Gray, Tyler Richards, Harry Butts,

probably not, Tyler Richards, Dustin Beer, Bear maybe, Brittany Conger, Andy Davis, Lily Morph, I think, probably not tyler richards dustin beer uh bear maybe britney conger uh andy davis lily morph i think renee lynn laurie bobskill kayla riddell todd ziggler zillinger zillinger okay daniel lopez tiffany bourne robert nicholas aaron grumbach uh lindsey groff krauf erica chavez brooke robinson amanda larson home stretch last page megan uh lined line dacker lied to her lindiker i don't know kobe and with no last name uh rachel what is this rachel but what raquel maybe rut carl's daughter none of those are right cassie sawyer evelyn and what is this evelyn zamora granova gondola

granola i don't know that's amazing i have terrible penmanship uh angelina marconi alicia yabara preston letterman megan with no last name michael bailey andrew mice meissmer nadia ashore robert sherwatka serwutka, Megan with no last name, Ruga, what is this, Pungo? God damn it, I don't know if that's a P or an R. Either way. And Josh Doxey, Kennedy Seckman, Stephen Diovana, Donor, Daner, Stephanie Fleming, Christopher Gales, Michelle Lopez, Becca Pitts, Sydney Raines Pratt, Dominic Brunson, Renee with no last name, Tega Bernstein, Logan Fisher, Tamsin Hunter, Michael Keenan, Matthew Moon, Terrence Clark, Sadie's Windshe uh max price melissa perrin uh haven bell c figler mike laura cock larock

mike laura james is no last name michelle rider axel amadeus that's the person's real name that's fucking rad wow uh chantel with no last name nicole serrata crystal krista jilson bob menzel uh megan saunders heather nelson isabel arosco arusco uh kevin lust tory bernhardt uh joe cordes katie hanks joshua perkins oh oil field oil field car colorado chris it's fucked up uh myra with know last name barb what is this bab raver what can't be right ian would know last name tay hannah uh jillian loslow desiree uh no that's daisy ray hayes jenna sarver uh catherine what cath kathaya alvarenga courtney graham michelle pitman Michelle Pittman, Vanessa Trujillo, Daniel Hare, Jessica Latz, Tanya Albony. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

Kristen Downey. Z with no last name. Madison Hanson, Katie Roby, Amanda Mitchell, Nick Jubry. Amanda Mitchell, Nick Bell-Matcock, Matt Bach. I apologize. Julie Varga, Andrea Hartle, Mia with no last name, Dustin Henry, Kim Petherick, Jose Santiago, Shanna Ferguson, Amy Deans, and Cassie Sawyer. And if you guys think that's fucked up, if I print them out, it would be way worse because

at least I've read them once. Thank you guys so much for everything you do for us. Thank you so much, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank much for everything you do for us. Thank you so much, everybody. Thank you, thank you, thank you for everything. Honestly, we appreciate you guys so much, everybody out there and everything. Can't be understated nor overstated. No, we're coming up on five years on this show.

It's unbelievable. You guys have just done everything for us for five years. Thank you. Thank you for everything like that. What if they wanted to thank you, Jimmy? How could they possibly start? Well, you can find me at WismanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A- whis man sucks on twitter and instagram where are you i am at jimmy

p is funny or you can just copy and paste my name and do it the smart way there do that and you'll find me somewhere i don't fucking know that said thank you for joining us hope you had as crazy a time as we did that was just a fun holiday week it's a light holiday party week you know do it that sort of thing everybody out party week you know do it that sort of thing everybody out there stay safe and do all that shit please enjoy your holidays and have fun yeah don't get sick don't get sick please don't fucking do anything stupid that said nobody likes their family don't go yeah just skip it you don't want to anyway i don't want to food's gross thrilled that i don't have to go to thanksgiving turkey will be dry just skip it

sucks turkey sucks you don't want turkey you don't have to go to Thanksgiving. Turkey will be dry. Just skip it. It sucks. Turkey sucks. You don't want turkey. You don't want it. It's better from Subway in a sandwich than it is from- What if your mom makes a ham? You don't want to go get that. That's gross. That's it, everybody. Live from the Crime and Sports Studios.

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