Crime in Sports - #244 - Standing In My Own Way - The of Industriousness of Rod Strickland

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

This week, we dig deep on a guy who always seemed to be almost great, but could never quite get over the hump. One area where he was an all star, however, was getting arrested. He's a repeat ...offender, but also branches out into other crimes, and ways to get arrested. He was nasty with the crossover, but even nastier at 2am, with flashing lights, in the rear view! Always be considered not quite an all star, go from team to team, as you get arrested, and always make sure everyone knows that you will not be kept out of handcuffs, no matter what with Rod Strickland!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:38 reason have a real affinity for the 90s basketball episodes it's home it's it's wrestling episodes and 90s basketball episodes people have a real warmth for so we're gonna do a 90s basketball episodes. It's home. It's wrestling episodes and 90s basketball episodes. People have a real warmth for. So we're going to do a 90s basketball today with Rod Strickland. Terrific. There we go. Let's do this. One of those guys that I never really realized did anything to belong on this show.
Starting point is 00:05:00 No. You don't ever hear anything. He was quiet. He's quiet. He's small. He's a point guard. his keep his head down guys sometimes he was a street ball guy where else he was around he was around you went to a lot of teams we'll get into it yeah yeah because he's got problems he's uh when you when you end up on crime and sports yeah you tend to get shipped around a
Starting point is 00:05:21 lot because a couple arrests they go let's get him out of fresh city. Might be best for him. I think he might be right. Cause I don't think we have any really that stayed in one place. If you're, if you're on this show, the only, if that happens,
Starting point is 00:05:34 it happened like after your career or something bad happened. But usually you have like a pattern through your career. She like killed your wife out of the blue or some shit, which has happened on the show. Generally a scumbag to the court. Doesn't just turn you right away. That's what I mean. So let's talk about Rodney Strickland.
Starting point is 00:05:49 All right. Let's do it. Born on July 11th, 1966. And he's from the Bronx. No kidding. He's a Bronx guy. I fucking love it. My family's from the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So I like the Bronx completely here. High school. Like I said, he's from the bronx so a lot of ball playing in new york city if uh that the culture there is is basketball and especially if you grew up in the 70s they're like oh man 60s 70s i mean it's just there's courts everywhere yeah it's something that you don't have to you can have you know literally 10 people all you need is a ball yeah that fucking bounces and that's pretty much it and you can have, you know, literally 10 people. All you need is a ball that fucking bounces. And that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And you can get it going on. Not a lot of equipment needed. Low equipment price. Yeah. Courts are, you know, there's hoops all over the city. Sure. So it's a good. 16 bucks.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Split that amongst 10 guys. That's what I mean, man. You can do it. So, and you, one ball, I mean, a whole neighborhood could play. So it's a. For a long time. For a long time. So it's great.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I mean, we shoveled the courts to play when I was a kid even. The basketball culture is thick in New York. So if you're a ball player there, you've got to be a really, really good ball player to be considered anything. He played for the New York Gauchos as a kid. Which is kind of like the, it's like an AAU team basically. Like a local, you see a lot of these i i've in books i'm reading you'll get a lot of like uh like these local like aau teams and they're sponsored by kind of half shady guys especially back then because there wasn't any
Starting point is 00:07:18 vetting of to as to who was allowed to like operate children's sports programs now it's a little different if you have like yeah programs now it's a little different if you have like yeah a little more careful a little more careful who they're allow around children but i read i've read this one story i was just it's this random guy who was a crack dealer for like fucking 10 years and went to jail and all this shit and i was reading his book and he was talking about he was a really good ball player as a kid in new york city and uh and he played for one of these aau teams and he was like yeah this is great they get because they were like you know we were poor and they gave us like real uniforms and like a duffel bag with the logo on it and like a warm-up jacket with the logo full team yeah he's like so you walk through
Starting point is 00:07:59 the neighborhood people knew you were on the fucking ball team and it was like oh shit you know that kid's got you know he's a baller and you know people were fucking like oh wow cool so it's considered like this cool thing and then some guy uh one of the coaches you know sexually propositioned him and then he found out that like that's like all the favorite kids were the ones that were like getting molested by all the guys in charge and he was like so i quit that shit and that was over and that's a lot of dirty shit going on back then with these with this type of thing so terrible again orange slices all right hey kid i got you a duffel bag really why is that no reason just want to help the kids okay now i feel terrible because the two out of ten people who are doing that that
Starting point is 00:08:42 are actually genuinely just like i just want to help the kids right they're getting lumped in and that sucks because they're the honestly the the most amazing people in the world if they have no ulterior motives and no ulterior motives and they're trying to help children wow that's amazing but absurd it doesn't exist that's why that's the problem it's rare so uh but the gauchos here they started in 1967 and they have been kind of all of the kind of the the cream of the crop that came through new york city mark jackson kenny anderson felipe lopez stefan marbury chris mullen and piccanee john sally chris mullen huh yeah mullins new york city really baller you never heard of his story no yeah it's if you've ever heard him talk no heavy new york accent it's fucking hilarious he's got a blonde flat top you expect him to sound like
Starting point is 00:09:30 larry bird right and he's like yeah let me tell you i was over here we went uh when i was a kid we were we went to the uh to the park right so i i dunked on this fucking guy it's amazing you're like whoa it's so weird after the game i'm to slice. Yeah. He was buddies with Ed Pickney, who's also a New York City kid. I've seen that. Yeah. Pickney took Mullen to all the fucking, basically, to the black neighborhoods to play ball. And they would make fun of him. They'd make fun of Chris Mullen.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And then he would play ball for two minutes. And they'd go, oh, shit. All right. Never mind. And then everybody was on the same deal. So, yeah. all for two minutes and they go oh shit all right never mind and then everybody was on the same deal so uh yeah so mullins a new york city kid had pickney john sally jamal washburn pearl washington there's a it's a lot of guys that came through this the all the elites yeah not jamal mashburn not mashburn jamal washburn the one we covered wait no no he's a street he's a street
Starting point is 00:10:20 guy he's a street legend yeah yeah um so he went to uh truman high school and uh in uh co-op city and uh led them to the state championship and was ranked among one of the top 10 high school recruits in the nation yeah so yeah rod can ball i mean there's no doubt about it as a senior he's so good he's too good for New York City Public School. Really? It's just he's that good where he ends up going down to Virginia, transferring to Oak Hill Academy, which is one of these basketball. Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It's a basketball academy for. Focused on it. Yeah. Yeah. The students are all. We have a very tall student body. Yeah. It's all pretty.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's a monochromatic tall very it's odd they're all six eight strange they're all bigger than teachers and then they just get bigger it's really weird it's a odd thing so it's a uh private baptist affiliated christian secondary school in mouth of wilson virginia mouth of wilson gross i don't want to live in anybody's mouth i'm not moving to a town that's someone's mouth what is that is it named after like being near the mouth of a river i'm sure it is it's the mouth of sense i'm sure it's not some guy who blew everybody yeah mouth of wilson yeah this guy i'll suck you fucking balls this guy he's so good wilson. You know him. You know Wilson. He's pretty good. Horrible.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Name is down after him. So Oak Hill's enrollment is about 150 students. So that's the type of place. It's a basketball academy. Yeah. And it's just mainly basketball. They serve 8 through 12. It grades 8 through 12.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It is accredited, actually, by the Virginia Association of Independent Schools. And the Oak Hill Academy Warriors basketball program is one of the top prep programs in the nation. Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant. All right. They both went there. If you're 6'10", you're getting sent here, basically. You have a lot here. They were crowned national high school champions nine times since 1993. 93, 94, 99, 2000, 2000, or 2001, 2004, 2005, 2007.
Starting point is 00:12:32 It's fucking ridiculous. Yeah. They're really good. Yeah. Rod Strickland, Jerry Stackhouse, Carmelo Anthony. So they were Kevin Durant. Oh, yeah. This is all they do.
Starting point is 00:12:42 This is all they do. It's a basketball factory, basically. It's a machine. They're pumping out, yeah, like an assembly line. Of NBA players. That's exactly what it is. Good ones. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Really good ones. Fucking Hall of Famers in some regards. Some of the best ones. So Rod is a high school parade All-American this year. So he's one of the top high school players in the country he is recruited ends up going to uh depaul is his college of choice which seems odd depaul's a good school and they're in the tournament and stuff like that but they're not a like they're definitely a second tier basketball power they're not i think that's uh outside
Starting point is 00:13:21 chicago okay i believe yeah i think it's illinois uh but it. Yeah, I think it's Illinois. But I love their DePaul Blue Demons. It's pretty cool. I like their uniforms. I always dug them as a kid. I dug that look. But it seems like just an odd choice. I don't know. They must have made a really good pitch to him.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Probably. I assume so. He goes to DePaul. He's a freshman there in 85, 86. And this is like a magical time for DePaul, actually. Maybe that's why, too, because they were good at the time and he helped uh they're 18 and 13 in the regular season which is you know not that great at all but they do make the tournament and then they go into the tournament pretty deep actually they make a run they beat virginia in the first round they beat
Starting point is 00:14:01 oklahoma in the second round and they lose a pretty close game to duke in the sweet 16 oh so pretty pretty uh good season for de paul actually you know if a school like that goes to the sweet 16 it's it's not bad and you lose to duke and you lose to do nothing to be sad about that's i mean there's not really uh you know a lot to uh feel like shit about there what year uh 84 85 86 so i mean no shame no shame at all on that and rod as a freshman played in 31 games started 23 of them so you know not too shabby there 14.1 points a game 5.1 assists 2.2 steals yeah so rod's making uh obviously i think he helped yeah you know that's that's a disruptor he's a great player yeah he's a great player that's as a freshman too so i mean yeah a lot of uh that's one thing you're going to get i think an advantage if you're a kid who grew up playing in new york city i feel like when you get to uh
Starting point is 00:14:54 a certain if you get to a level where it's like say the beginning of college you're going to be more aggressive possibly than some people they'll catch up to you by the next year but you might be real aggressive because that's just your game at first they might be a little more tentative so okay a freshman is going to be still aggressive that's the only way they know how to play so uh 86 87 they go 28 and 3 okay so that's better that's you know top tier who the hell did they get that that's really good i know this was just the team maturing same team it's rod strickland mainly he's the star of the team here they go to the tournament again they beat up louisiana tech then they beat st john's which interesting for uh it's a new york city team that's where chris mullen went okay that's st john's yeah somebody went there him
Starting point is 00:15:39 and then they lose 63 to 58 a really low scoring sounds boring as fuck in the sweet 16 to louisiana state they get upset by the number 10 seed lsu is that who that is yeah lsu so 86 that's pre-shack by far by four years so i don't know i don't know who the hell was was there but they uh shack would have been an okay excuse but outside of that so uh rod though 30 games starts 27 of them this year 16.3 points 6.5 assists two steals a game rod's a bad he's a badass now he's starting just about every game as a junior they go 22 and 8 the team does they go to the tournament again they beat which is wichita state in the first round but then then lose to Kansas State in the second round. So, you know, kind of a lackluster tournament.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He, Broad, though, has a hell of a year. He plays in 26 games, averages 20 points even, which is going to get you attention, 20 points, 7.8 assists, and 2.9 steals a game. So good. Three steals a game is silly. That's a lot of steals. That's really too much.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Average. Averaging. If you get one, you got a game with five. That's what I'm saying. That's incredible. That's a shitload of steals. It's really an aggressive point guard, which is what you want. He is a third team UPI All-America. Now, the All-American team, I have the chart here to show you.
Starting point is 00:17:06 UPI? Yeah. Is it the sponsor? The UPI is the press, the United Press International. Oh, got it. All right. I thought it was like the makeup. No, yes.
Starting point is 00:17:13 The nail polish. The UPI. The nail polish is sponsoring this. That'd be great. What an odd sponsor. So they have the Associated Press All-American team then the usbwa all-american team the nabc all-american team and the upi all-american team and then they have the first second and third team of all of those he made the third team of upi okay so on this whole chart here he's on one
Starting point is 00:17:41 team down there and that's where they put him so that's a third team third team okay with uh harvey grant and ronnie cycli okay so a couple guys have played in the nba so the 88 draft comes around here and he's expected to be you know he's expecting to be drafted obviously and here uh number one overall 1988 jimmy 88 jesus who you got i don't have a fucking clue stacy no no who is it danny manning Are you serious? Yeah, old Danny Manning. Was it the Clippers? At the time, yeah. LAC.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah. And then, yeah, out of Kansas. Number two overall? Oh, my God. I haven't got a clue. No? In 88? No.
Starting point is 00:18:14 88. Rick Smits. Oh, Jesus. The goofy Dutchman. The ugliest. Yeah. Just a terrible looking man. I just remember as a little kid, he went to to marist college which is in poughkeepsie
Starting point is 00:18:25 yeah and like you would just for like you know four years you just see this seven foot six blonde guy sometimes people would spot him like i saw the guy from holy shit that guy's like a freak i saw him in the mall holy crap if he had a normal length neck he'd only be like six seven oh yeah he's so and his shoulders look too low and they're weird. And then his arms are like, he's got a strange body and gait and everything. I don't know how he survived in the NBA. Very weird here. So, uh, Mitch Richmond in this draft, Hersey Hawkins, Rex Chapman. I'm sure we'll do some kind of episode about Ronnie Cycli.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah. Your Twitter hero is a fucking criminal. Oh yeah. He did some dumb shit. Rex Chapman. His Twitter feed's hilarious. oh yeah he did some dumb shit rex chapman his twitter feed's hilarious great he did some dumb stuff an awful man awful dumb shit so uh and i've met him well yeah he's a good dunker yeah uh harvey grant will purdue this is a lot of sec this whole draft is like second tier guys yeah manning's smiths was pretty good he was a top tier center draft of sixth men that's what it is mitch rich mitch richmond was a star i'll give him that mitch rich for a while hersey hawkins
Starting point is 00:19:30 rex chapman ronnie cycli willie anderson will purdue harvey grant these are all like alsos not all stars below that tier uh gary grant dan marley everybody in this fucking draft is that holy shit and then rod strickland fits right in with that bill he wasn't a top 10 draft pick nope rod strickland number 19 overall uh to the knicks no kidding hometown yeah the next row which must have been yeah dude to come up in new york city big deal and get drafted by the knicks would be fucking awesome and then what so cool he didn't play a single game for them did he did actually really we'll talk about it but uh yeah they picked uh sacramento right before that took ricky barry oh who played for one season in
Starting point is 00:20:16 the nba uh before that eric lechner went to you so people could have got him and they didn't so i don't know what the hell the deal with that was, but people didn't want him, apparently. Also, who was in this? Oh, Vinny Del Negro's in this draft, another second-tier guy. Anthony Mason in this draft, another guy. You know who got drafted right after Anthony Mason? No. Jorge Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Do you know who that is, Jimmy? Muffled. Jorge Gonzalez. Do you remember in wrestling? I live in Arizona. I know, like, nine of those. Okay. That's true. you grew up here you went to school with 14 Jorge Gonzalez but did you were any of them seven foot
Starting point is 00:20:52 seven no okay seven foot seven Mexican guy seven he's Argentinian okay seven foot seven Argentinian guy he was a wrestler giant do you remember that he wore the furry man suit i have no idea he wore a furry like a a suit from you know top to bottom and it had like it was like had like a man's body so you look like a sasquatch kind of airbrushed onto it with patches of fur that is horrible it was a furry dude it was the weirdest thing i've ever it was like half sasquatch half man costume it was to look up giant gonzalez up Giant Gonzalez or what the hell was he? That's what he was in WWF, I think. Yeah, Giant Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He fought Undertaker. It's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. And then he's drafted in the NBA. Before that, he was drafted in the NBA. Oh, so he washed out of the NBA and ended up there. He ended up. Well, he can't run. He's like, when you see him, you go, there's no way that guy's running a court.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Why would he pick this? But he's 7'7", and 7'8", whatever the fuck he is, he's a freak. So they drafted him. And because what they did was they signed Ted Turner on the Hawks. He's the one who drafted him. And they signed him to just a general contract not just a contract for the hawks okay so that way they didn't think he'd work out for the hawks they literally put him in wrestling which ted turner owned also they put him in wcw so they were like gotta do something with this giant motherfucker we gotta use him we gotta use him he's a huge body he's very useful
Starting point is 00:22:19 somewhere he's huge he can step over the top rope he's got it all you know terrible wrestler one of the i mean he's just like terrible nba player worse wrestler worse wrestler yeah i don't think he ever played in the nba i don't think he ever played a they probably ran him down the floor twice and they're like oh god he's oh jesus he can't run he's gonna break so they put him in wrestling and then vince mcmahon took him for a minute and was like wow that was terrible and got rid of him and he went back to wcw and then he eventually uh him for a minute and was like, wow, that was terrible and got rid of him. And he went back to WCW and then he eventually went to Argentina and died. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, he's dead. That's terrible. Yeah, absolutely. Dead as a doornail. Where he went to die in a wheelchair, I believe, because he was so broken.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Because he's got a disease because he's that big. Yeah, he's all broken. I don't know what it is. It's just his organs couldn't take it anymore. we're not built to be that big no exactly great as it would be you don't see a lot of seven foot six people you don't see a lot of seven foot six people anyway but the ones that do exist they're not 80 most of the time i don't see him being even older than that it's just not a thing so uh rod strickland number nine to the knicks though he goes to the knicks here and this was actually the knicks were kind of decent at this point they were 52 and 30 this
Starting point is 00:23:30 year rick patino was their coach oh boy which is to think of rick patino coaching the knicks is funny to me uh they went to the playoffs this year actually they had patrick ewing obviously mark jackson so you had jackson and strickland at point guard, which made no sense. They drafted Strickland, and they were like, you have exactly that. Mark Jackson's the exact same guy. He's a point guard, New York City, same kind of style. And they drafted him like the year before.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Aggressive and dribbles. It makes no sense why they would draft him. At least draft a different type of point guard. Unless you want the exact same thing to have fresh legs. That's kind what the thought was but they didn't get along like that sure for that you know the team didn't work out that way yeah mark jackson's a guy that he's an industrial dude he sticks around on the floor the entire game yeah he's a two minute break oh man yeah he's in the game and also uh kenny walker remember kenny walker kenny walker used to do well in the dunk competitions he had a big giant kid and play flat eraser flat top like a big one it was pretty
Starting point is 00:24:31 hilarious back then in like 89 gerald wilkins who will have his own episode because recently he got arrested like four times in a month he's pretty wild yeah played for the hawks too right yeah yeah for him and his well for his brother there too dominique played for the hawks too, right? Yeah, for him and his brother there too. Dominique played for the Hawks. But Gerald had like a progressively, he had like four arrests in a month and they were progressively crazier to the point where the last one you're like, oh my God, what the hell's going on with this guy?
Starting point is 00:24:55 Oh, I can't wait. He snapped. Trent Tucker, Charles Oakley, so a lot of guys on this team. They went to the playoffs. They swept Philly in the first round and they lost to the bulls in the second round though this was jordan's you know he's three years four years in the league starting
Starting point is 00:25:09 to come into his own has some trouble with the team though in the middle of the season he doesn't isn't getting along with everybody here apparently he doesn't like how uh rick patino's been breaking his balls in public that's his kind of uh style is to you know trash a guy to the press and hopefully light a fire under his ass this is new york this could be bad that's not a good especially in a person's hometown too so now they're that's not cool right it's the biggest market in america and it's your hometown yeah and people are hating you that you know and i think that's a thing where like where coaches do different things for different people. Different ways of getting shit out of different people.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Sure. So he might have looked at Rod and said, that's how I think I can get something out of Rod, is to light a fire under his ass and embarrass him, and then he'll go out there and play. But he miscalculated. He's a rookie, so he doesn't know him, obviously, but he completely miscalculated his
Starting point is 00:26:05 personality and not a good way to go about it which for me either i would have been like oh fuck yourself fuck you you're talking to the fucking you could have talked to me asshole fuck yourself find out about it until my fucking doorman asked me what the fuck's wrong with me yeah that's what i mean and uh well he said some nasty yeah what too. He said after a loss, he told the press that Strickland was, quote, nowhere near as good as the media made him out to be. Oh, my. That's aggressive. That hurts. That's aggressive for a rookie, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:37 That's in the soul, man. That's what I'm saying. Jesus Christ. Not cool. We took our chances on this guy because of all of you and he is terrible and he is i'm telling you guys you made you fucked up it's useless to me out here you said he's good you liars so the general manager of the team uh said quote that was not a very smart thing to do how good rod is is a matter of opinion if rick thinks he's not as good as the press thinks
Starting point is 00:27:01 fine but that's nothing you say in the papers about one of your own players. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Terrible thing to do. He said, especially if you might want to trade him someday. We're going to lower his value. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:27:13 He stinks. Right. Give me a good player for him. Give me the best player you got. That's not what you do. For this piece of shit that I hate and you all know it. You say he's super good. We're trying to figure out how he fits into our fucking operation is what you say. And if he doesn't, you go, wow wow it's not him he's amazing but we just don't have that
Starting point is 00:27:28 and you trade him and then let him go be shit somewhere else yeah he even gets sometimes he'll even give somebody a big contract so it looks like oh wow he they must mean it they love him they love him so uh he ended up uh he said he doesn't his friends his agent everybody says he's not too happy about it he's sure he's pretty fucking pissed off one of his friends, his age, and everybody says he's not too happy about it. He's sure he's pretty fucking pissed off. One of his friends said it's the worst thing that he could have done. He said, Patino, he said, quote, Don't do that. Rod's the most sensitive, mild mannered man you could meet. His psyche means so much to him.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Rod's a kid. He doesn't know. He doesn't know what you're talking about when you say this is his job. To him, basketball is everything. It's his life. OK, well, yeah, but it is your job too at the same time is that how you feed yourself but you have a 21 year old kid who basketball as much as it's uh a craft it's also a bit of an art and you're feeling you how you feel really makes a difference in how you play so you can't you know definitely an there's an expressiveness to it where it's not just like you go dig a hole and then the hole's
Starting point is 00:28:29 dug whether you feel like shit or not if it's dug it's dug it doesn't have to be dug with any style or a plum and no one's trying to stop you from digging the hole that's another point dig an alternate hole better at the same time nobody's digging another hole next to you and throwing their dirt into you that's what i mean it's a totally different thing so uh not that digging a hole is easy i'm just saying it's a different he says and then uh strickland's agent norman blasts who i'm sure is silver as can be yeah he says quote rick is trying very hard to get rodney to grow up i like how he calls him rodney so it makes him sound older but at the same time rodney is going through a very difficult time he's always been the star the glamour boy the glamour boy that's a terrible way i would not appreciate don't you
Starting point is 00:29:10 dare if it's a glamour boy 1989 and i'm like trying to be like you know i'm a rookie and i'm tough and now you're gonna and you're rod strickland rod strickland's like he's a handsome small tough guy yeah you're gonna call me glamour boy because he's gonna go out to practice come back to his locker and it's not gonna say strickland above his locker it's gonna have a piece of tape that says glamour boy above it and a bag full of opi cosmetics yeah that's what i mean upi cosmetics i think it's opi i know i think it is the press thing you're right so i i would love to see that. I don't know. So, you know, sew it on his jersey. Yeah. Look, it's Glamour Boy.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Number 10. He doesn't see it till he's on the court. Starting at point guard. Glamour Boy. They keep calling me that. What the fuck, man? He's always been the Glamour Boy. He obviously wants more minutes, but he hasn't made a fuss
Starting point is 00:30:05 he played him five minutes wednesday because he was angry at him for being late but rod doesn't do anything so harmful that he should be made to feel like a scapegoat if rick did that to oakley charles would have thrown him into the stands yeah which is true you that's the thing if you if you said some shit like that to charles oak, you'd have to deal with Charles Oakley. He would be settling that shit with you quickly, and you know that. That's why you wouldn't do it. That's a bad man in his 60s. That man is a vicious man.
Starting point is 00:30:33 We're definitely going to do a Charles Oakley episode. One of my favorite, favorite players. He's done some awful things off the court, but on the court, oh my God. They don't make Charlesles oakley's anymore if you put charles oakley like 1992 charles oakley anywhere in the nba today people there'd be a halo of six feet around that guy because they'd be terrified of him oh my god he's gonna kill me are you kidding me i'm friends with him on facebook and his updates status updates are as as bad shit as you would expect he's charles oakley man crazy man what do you want
Starting point is 00:31:11 and i love it he's the best he's great i can't get enough of him so uh rod in his rookie year with the knicks he plays in all 81 games actually so there's you know right he plays in 8182 so taylor swift is soaring high. Her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process. But along the way, Taylor has had to wage war, first by taking on a very powerful, very famous manager, Scooter Braun,
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Starting point is 00:32:53 until we collectively shout, How the hell did we get here? Follow WikiHole on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to WikiHole ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. per game 3.9 assists 1.2 steals he's okay but he's being underutilized yeah he's not being you there's a guy and mark jackson's really good so it's not like there's a shit guy ahead of him jackson's like a second year guy who's really good so they're gonna play him uh but rod makes the all nba rookie team the second team all nba rookie second team okay so it's the second best yeah of the rookies yeah second best rookie point guard
Starting point is 00:33:46 that's pretty good not too bad though that's not bad he's not a piece of shit like uh patino's making him out to be and he makes 250 000 for that yeah so pretty good you know what let's do it this way grace let's do grace here just because he's in his hometown yeah he's got all nba rookie second team he's doing well he does have some more uptime but there's a lot more down slide here coming up so let's do that 89 90 he starts the season with the knicks i can't believe this isn't it weird i remember him as a kid being i never i never knew he played for the knicks ever that's so well yeah then he left early here because on february 21 1990, the Knicks trade him. So he's only there a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:34:28 But he played an entire season for them. A whole season. He's traded for Mo Cheeks, for Maurice Cheeks to the Spurs. Yeah. Okay. Remember him on the Spurs? Strickland? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 No. Exactly. I remember his basketball card on the Spurs, but I don't remember ever watching him on the Spurs. And I think that that card was him playing for another team, but they have a picture of him on the Spurs? Probably because he came from the Knicks. He played for the Knicks until February. But I think he played three years on the Spurs, though.
Starting point is 00:34:56 What? Yeah, it's weird. Let's get into it here. Weird. Don't expect it, right? Why did they have him? Well, let's get into it. Okay, I'll let you tell me. I don't see him as the starter. I just don't expect it right why did they have him well was he this okay i'll let you tell me yes
Starting point is 00:35:05 i don't see him as the starter i just don't see it i don't believe you larry brown was the coach is like the top three of winningest of all times you should take it up with larry brown yeah larry i don't see him as the starter well jimmy let me i don't see it happening how about this jimmy let me talk to you about it this way uh so they go 56 and 26 though the spurs they were a playoff team always i remember at this point in time they had david robinson and they were they were decent uh coach larry brown though that's weird uh and uh they go to the playoffs like i said they sweep the nuggets in the first round and then lose a seven game series to portland yeah so portland was good in 90 it was a real good team this team
Starting point is 00:35:45 had like frank brokowski terry cummings yeah uh sean elliott boy was terry cummings hideous he's a hideous man my very very hideous that's the work i hated when i unwrapped that basketball card rick smith's level hideous yeah absolutely i hated his face not quite a mutant like could not but just uh i couldn't gather why his face looked that way well it looks like it looks like it was left in like the hot arizona yeah summer like in a car for like five minutes too long and it started to melt and then like then their mother came out and went oh no i left the child in the car and took the took him out but his head melted just a little bit just enough to to where it almost looked like there was no ears on the head. Yeah, because it was kind of...
Starting point is 00:36:29 He just looked like a penis with eyes. Yeah. It was really weird. Whereas Rick Smith, you'd be like, is he from a tree people? What the fuck is he? Is he even human? Big eyebrow ridgeline. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Just a strange looking man. Very weird. David Robinson, maxwell on this team david wingate who again he'll have an episode as well it's a lot of episodes on this team but a lot of players are recognizable so um yeah he goes there and you know finishes out the year averages about 14 points a game for them 91 92 spurs they go 55 and 27 they lose in the first round to the warriors but more importantly he starts having some problems here uh he's he's in january 91 it's in the press that he's he's a little wild and um not fitting into the game plan okay larry brown says quote it's tough i've always had point guards who are really fundamentally sound. I've had other players who were kind of wild, but never at point guard.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Sometimes I just cringe at some of the things Rod does, but I want him to have fun, and I don't want to curtail what he does best, which is creating on the fly. Rod's kind of a jazz point guard. He's not a real – he's not Mark Price. He's not coming up the floor and having a, he's more of a jazz guy. He's a street ball kind of a guy. Yeah, create the play. Which is way more fun to watch, in my opinion. I'd rather watch that than, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:52 It makes sense that they wanted that because shortly after this, they took Avery Johnson. Yeah. And Avery Johnson. Which is kind of the hybrid of that. Yeah. He's also pretty controlled at the same time. He's calling a play. But he can freelance a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But he'll create it if he has to. Absolutely. Larry Brown said he can freelance a little bit. But he'll create it if he has to. Absolutely. Larry Brown said he's going to take chances. He's going to go after steals and not get back on defense. And that's what he does, too. He takes chances. He goes for a steal. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And then if you blow it, then you're fucked. And your guy's open. Exactly. He said he's going to shoot wild shots and try to get a little fancy sometimes. But if you tie him down too much, it prohibits him from being creative. You take a great part of his game away from him you have to be real careful so that makes a lot of sense at least he sees it that way larry brown that's why he's probably one of the winningest coaches in the in the league so he plays in 58 games they start him in 56 games at least he can feel like he's in the lineup averages 13.8 points a game uh what is
Starting point is 00:38:46 this eight assists and two steals so not bad figuring it out they like him a lot yeah four hundred thousand dollars he makes for that so pretty decent uh april 17th 1991 now he got some problems now he's got some off the court issuescourt issues. Oh, really? We'll say here. Yeah, already. Well, he gets a misdemeanor charge this particular day. Well, DUI in San Antonio? No, no, no. DUI would be less embarrassing. This is a misdemeanor charge of lewd conduct. What did he do?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Well, he's accused of indecent exposure. Rodney. And they say Rodney Strickland. Rod away, Strickland. My God. And it says Spurs strickland double exposure is the newspaper thing you know they were like can we make a joke about rod can we do that can we do it can we say like you know rod exposed can we do that is that that's just a double
Starting point is 00:39:37 entendre right i mean no no there was some wordplay and they were like we can't do it let's be the new york post exposure can we do that all right fine so it's in a seattle hallway a 28 year old woman filed a complaint against strickland accusing him of not once but twice exposing himself to her in a hallway of the stouffer madison hotel in seattle gross she told police she was the hotel or the action i saw it happen i saw him in my head go take a look at that and she was like did i just see her and he goes sure did he's like right here still still there still out pictured a little shake a little wobble make a dangle i just wanted to slay there still you don't want to lay there on the plate like a fucking you know it's got to be
Starting point is 00:40:22 alive i guess it would be more this is disgusting don't do this daddy never take your dick out especially waggle nobody wants that nobody wants to see your dick that's the thing they really don't and if a woman wants to see your dick the thing about women is they'll ask you to see your dick if they want to see your dick they'll go show me your dick i want to see your dick and when they do you you have to in in your i don't know about you but i i go fucking really yeah you're like you really want to see that i guess i can't believe you want to see that sure why not it's yeah it would be like somebody that's the thing for a guy it's not like it's different if a guy was like show me your pussy right oh put him in handcuffs
Starting point is 00:41:01 what a nightmare he's gonna attack this woman whereas for a guy it would, it's so, it would be the same as if a woman said, show me your coffee cup. Right. Sure. Here it is. See, it's got a, I got, it's from when I went to Pennsylvania when I, it says, you know, it's got a thing by Philly. It says, I love my cat, but it's a possum.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah. Do you get it? Cat possum. See how it works there. It kind of looks like a cat. Same thing. I'm like, see, yeah, there it is. You know, there you go.
Starting point is 00:41:24 But you don't just put it out there unsolicited yeah you just lay it out in a hallway of a hotel he was wearing only a towel no okay you're doing it okay right away yeah why are you in a hallway of a hotel in a towel it's already all gone wrong done yeah you need more clothes than that i'm sorry my hotel room door does not open until i'm not in a towel and there are clothes on my person he's just hanging out out there long enough to expose himself twice so it's not like he opened the door to like reach down and get the usa today or whatever the fuck they were putting in the front of the door then and then saw a chick was like
Starting point is 00:42:00 hey there's my dick and then she kept walking he was just hanging out in the hallway and he turned and the door clicked and then he's like i'm gonna show her again he's just like he's hanging out reading the usa today what's happening baby he takes his dick out she goes in her room comes back out i still got this here for you anyway you're seeing this shit in the middle east fucked up man pointing down with his dick yeah just see this shit on b12 newspaper over it just pushed it down right it's fucked up right pulls it back that sodom's insane yeah uh she well she claims the woman uh she's a flight attendant from portland who was staying in seattle for the night she claimed there was loud music coming from one of the rooms the spurs were staying there loud music coming
Starting point is 00:42:45 from one of the rooms uh she said that she complained about 1 a.m and strickland and another man positioned themselves on each side of the hallway so this wasn't even like she's walking by here's my dick this was like a intimidation this was like hey what's happening yeah you know how you doing like this is not the way you come on to a woman right especially in an enclosed area with no one else around like a hotel like that where she can be yanked into a room that's not okay this isn't public even in public don't do this she said that uh strickland made a cat call then opened his towel he was wearing exposing himself she said that he called out and exposed himself again as she headed to a room like no
Starting point is 00:43:25 creepiest did you not see what i had for you what the fuck no no i said smile no i said smile because it's my cock right you didn't want to see and you're probably scared you're going to get pulled in by two men and raped because you know we're alone in a hotel room and it's one o'clock in the morning and bell biv de beau is yeah just blaring in the fucking hallway just go look at my dick i can't believe how much i loved that i really did i was so into it but it wasn't like i loved it wasn't like yeah i was like wow this is so interesting really yeah that's how they do it in philly that's what they do like public enemy at that age didn't i was like 10
Starting point is 00:44:22 11 by then and that was boys to men was from philly too right yeah but they're soft man that was another one that was i was like wow this is amazing guys they sound good but it was i don't know i was blown away the guys could sound like oh they're sounding wonderful yeah i was amazed wow so amazed that makes you take your dick out in the hallway apparently yeah so this is this is not okay though this is aggressive behavior and uh the king's county prosecutor's office said they're they're arraigning him and all this type of shit and uh the 28 year old woman said that uh quote uh well he said quote i don't know anything about it i don't even want to know that's what he said after
Starting point is 00:45:02 he was charged legally no no we want to know yeah and i think you probably want to know that's what he said after he was charged legally no no we want to know yeah and i think you probably want to know why you're being charged with a crime you should absolutely ask man i don't even want to know about this shit what you should those are handcuffs you should you be curious mildly of why you're in them i would be they're talking about your dick was out yeah hey that's a big charge like you took your dick out at 1 a.m with another guy also if your name is rod yeah and your last name rhymes with dick also you never do any crimes where your dick is yeah rod exposed his dick you never do this yeah that's bad stuff god damn it he's leaving a lot open really so 91 92 with the spurs here they're 47 and 35 and uh they get swept by the suns in
Starting point is 00:45:48 the first round of the playoffs this was the sun that's a good year upswing the next year was the barkley year this is pre-barkley oh really yeah 91 92 oh 91 92 yeah 91 92 uh he ends he had a long contract holdout he doesn't sign until christmas eve really yeah he has a long ass i think it's 88 days or something it's one of the it's the longest holdout in spurs history that's uh yeah the post cock exposure post cock how do you hold out when you behave that way yeah when you give your cock away with such yeah willy-nilly such utter disregard you don't even want it right i mean you can't how do you expect us to pay for your basketball abilities and especially a top dollar that's top well yeah 1.3 million for one year 80 day holdout
Starting point is 00:46:36 the former team record was 10 days by eight times by frank brokowski who also had no business holding out excuse me you're you're are you a are you a large polish man and you play in the nba just be lucky you're here be thankful would you be thankful take the check and catch it frank brokowski really uh so strickland said quote i'm just happy to be playing back to be uh to be back to playing basketball and uh the general manager said tonight's signing of strickland is a major step forward in creating continuity for this ball club everybody's very happy about it he plays in 57 games this year 13.8 points a game which is exactly what he had the year before exactly which is kind of weird 8.6 assists 2.1 steals so he's still active he's still doing his thing uh there
Starting point is 00:47:26 march 23rd 1992 kairi irving is born okay what okay weird to think that right isn't that weird oh my god yeah that is really uncomfortable that guy's really famous yeah and like just born seinfeld was on for three years right what before he was born born think about that think about that shit like that fresh prince had been running you know what i'm saying like this shit was like oh my god 92 and i only bring up kyrie irving because uh rod is kyrie irving's godfather is it how it's weird right who is kyrie irving's dad? His dad, Dredrick, played college basketball at Boston University alongside Sean Teague and under coach Rick Pitino. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:13 So after completing his college career, his father ended up going to Australia to play ball over there. Kyrie's born in Australia. Yeah. He's got dual citizenship and all that shit. I do know that. And Irving lived there and everything and when they moved back i guess through patino somehow he knows they became friends yeah because that was with the knicks and they became friends and somehow he's buddies with
Starting point is 00:48:34 the dad and there you go kairi he's next thing you know yeah he's having some problems if he'd shut his fucking mouth he's having but i mean he can also say what he wants because the league fucking uses him to draw people so it's like hey you're gonna use me then yeah you're gonna use what i say too fuck you i love how good he is he's grow on the court he's fucking great yeah there's he's amazing to watch i hate buying my son uh basketball shoes because they go so quickly but yeah i've bought him three maybe four pairs of kairis i love them and he loves them. They look great. And I tell him, if you keep wearing them,
Starting point is 00:49:06 hopefully you'll be good at something like that. Like he is. Make me some money. But probably not basketball. probably not. Because me and your mom are both short. Just use those as motivation to be a great engineer. and something else.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yeah. Just to, you'll have really comfy feet as you do math. As you, as you make a bridge. Or some shit that doesn't involve being tall and jumping. And dribbling insanely fast. You're bad at all those things.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Sorry. Now, July 3rd, 1992, Rod signs as a free agent with the Portland Trailblazers, which fits right in there. This is Portland's quote-un unquote jailblazer time where we've done multiple episodes of different guys who there's jesus he gets arrested with cliff actually at one point during this whole thing absolutely they're perfect to get arrested together isaiah riders on these squads it's a there's a lot of guys coming in and out that are have some problems so 92 but good they were fucking great to watch so So good. Awesome team. Really fun. Jerome Kersey. Still Clyde Drexler on this team.
Starting point is 00:50:07 So you got... Porter's there. He was never getting arrested, though. No. He was just busy looking like he was 53. Right. And he was 26. Poor fuck. Just bald as shit.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Shave it all, Clyde. What the fuck were you... But he still looked old. And he had a mustache. Yeah. And in the 90s, young people didn't have mustaches just a mustache he looked like benson yeah robert guillaume yeah he just looked like uh it was like a terrible he just looked like he doesn't have a mustache no he looked like he had a bald head and a fucking
Starting point is 00:50:40 mustache he looked like fucking he looked like a tall george jefferson like his look yeah not that he didn't look like him in the face, but he had a mustache and he had that fucking bald head. So it was like not a guy. It wasn't bald, though. He had the shit on the side, too. That's what I mean. For so long. He sat on the side, so he looked like he was like a skinny black Steve Balboni, is what he looked like. Yet he's dunking from the foul line
Starting point is 00:51:05 you're like what is happening makes sense how's that old man dunking and then you're like he's 27 what oh my god poor fuck jesus how much how how much would you hate everything if that was your face on such an athletic body and you can't even sell shit yeah it'd be hard you're cursed with that you can't even be the face of weenies no you'd have to do like some sort of hair product or like a mustache brush or something some elderly something that helps old people poop robinson's mustache combs when your mustache is just too unru poop robinson's mustache comes when your mustache is just too unruly robinson's mustache come that's the only comb for claude drexler and he stands there and starts combing see like what else are you gonna fucking do fucking guy yeah but good team though 51 and 31
Starting point is 00:51:59 the trailblazers here but their problem was they never could kind of close the deal in the playoffs they lose three to one to the spurs in the playoffs in the first round uh good squad though like we said kevin duckworth mario ellie jerome kersey drexler terry porter tracy murray cliff robinson you know pretty good squad buck williams not bad yeah here uh rod fits right in he plays in all 82 games he starts 58 of them 17.2 points a game so a career high for him there nine assists also a career high 1.8 steals so he's progressing yeah and he's making more money too 1.2 million dollars for rod this year now we're talking good job rod he's making some dough 93 94 with the blazers here uh coach rick edelman by the way uh the coach they lose to the rockets in the first round three to one i was just gonna say that as they had their run every year there was a different western
Starting point is 00:52:58 conference team that was so good that was the juggernaut the jazz the the rockets the rockets there was always somebody just rotating it was never it was never for never their turn just was never their turn uh rod though seven a good season for rod again he's he's killing it uh having a very good time out there so uh he plays well he can't crack the all-star team though really rod's one of those guys that he played a long time you know his name you know look at his stats 17.29 assists that's great sounds all-star numbers right never once an all-star never he's just yeah below that tier slightly that you just can't crack it what is the all-star team made of is it 12 is it just like just like a regular team, or is it more than that?
Starting point is 00:53:45 No, it's 12. Oh, yeah, he's never going to make it. Here's the squads for 94. So where would he fit in? Now, he's in Portland, so he'd be on the West. Let's look at the West. Olajuwon, Mitch Richmond, Sean Kemp, Carl Malone, Clyde Drexler. That's the starters.
Starting point is 00:54:00 That's the starters. You're not beating Drexler out. He's on your team, and he's fucking Clyde Drexler. uh but he was a shooting guard right yeah and mitch richmond was your point and mitch richmond's pretty amazing he's a two also they could go back from back that's what i mean yeah on the bench yeah okay john stockton okay you're not cracking that uh david robinson cliff robinson danny manning gary payton never latrell spreewell kevin johnson it's never happening stockton kevin johnson gary payton it's not true you're not you're not better than yeah you're great but they're yeah fucking superstars that's what i mean you're never
Starting point is 00:54:37 getting to that level there's so many great players what do you think held him back from being a superstar because his numbers are great they're great but everybody else's were better they just had a couple more points more a couple more points couple more assists gary payton was you know the best defensive point guard stockton was stealing like crazy the assist leader you know kevin johnson was making making points and he's averaging 20 points a game too there's really as hard and this team was great too it's another thing so it was a poor fuck tough thing he makes 1.5 uh 1 million 560 thousand dollars that'll soften the blow a little bit i guess a millionaire after the whole deal but uh march 5th 1994 he's got a little bit of a problem here with cliff robinson uh this is in the middle of the night 4 a.m in fortland oh no in chicago oh my god 4 a.m in
Starting point is 00:55:27 chicago on the road yeah they're on the road playing chicago playing chicago he's with cliff robinson yeah and whenever we say 4 a.m yeah in a chicago parking lot with cliff robinson probably bad yeah probably not going to work out well now that, that night, Cliff scored 18 points. Strickland had 16 points and 11 assists. Not bad. And the Blazers won their eighth out of nine last night. And they beat the Bulls. They beat the Bulls, losing their fourth in a row.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Unbelievable. Bad streak for the Bulls. And so this... What do you think that's like? Yeah. Guys. Guys. Okay. This is some shit you would expect from some like drunken
Starting point is 00:56:08 bar patron or something which i'm sure they were but they get arrested for getting into a fight with a trucker in a mcdonald's parking lot at 4 a.m in downtown chicago wow downtown mcdonald's parking lot oh my god 4 a.m fight with a truck driver i'll bet you i even know that chicago that mcdonald's i bet it's that one that's the rock and roll one downtown let's hope and if it is that's a bright loud parking lot at 4 a.m it's four o'clock in the goddamn morning apparently there was a minor traffic accident with some the truck bumped in or the car bumped into a truck there was something so everybody got out and started pushing and shoving. And next thing you know, they're fighting with truckers in a McDonald's parking lot.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Holy shit. Cliff Robinson says, quote, This is a total misunderstanding. We were hungry. We wanted something to eat at McDonald's. A guy backed into us, and then the whole thing got blown out of proportion. Right. You know, fighting and things. Cliff six, seven. Yeah. He's tall as Right. You know, fighting and things. It's Cliff 6'7".
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, he's tall as shit. Probably stoned. Seeing everything. Yeah, I'm guaranteed. He's eating McDonald's before you. He's got as much chance of being stoned as I do. He's stoned. So they were both charged with simple battery, which is a misdemeanor, and they were released
Starting point is 00:57:20 on $100 bond. They have to go back for court. The truck driver was not charged here. Apparently was uh they were there was some aggression toward him apparently but i don't know what the hell he was up to so who knows yeah was was he out at 4 a.m who knows if he was like you fuck the blazers or some shit what his bullshit was uh the team spokesman for the blazers said quote we were disappointed that they were out that late but there is no team curfew they're adults okay so just i don't care if they're out just don't get arrested yeah how about that and they're throwing punches and that's bad for them too because this is the time of frivolous lawsuits
Starting point is 00:57:53 yeah and that guy's not charged with anything nope that's bad they uh end up getting charged with battery so that's what the final charges are so not great 94 95 port95 Portland now. 44-38. This is P.J. Carlissimo pre-being choked. Carlissimo here. Now they go to the playoffs that year. Swept in the first round. Last three years. First round, first round, first round. And to the Suns this year.
Starting point is 00:58:20 They get swept. 94-95. Rod, though, decent year for him. 18.9 points a game which is a career high good for you uh 8.8 assists and 1.9 steals so killing it that's great doing great this close to he's the next guy to be on that all-star team if we needed four point guards yeah if gary payton dies you're in like literally if somebody breaks kevin johnson's legs right that's it you're you're the guy he makes 1.92 million dollars though so 1 million 920 000 so i'll take it yeah
Starting point is 00:58:52 that's pretty fucking good so i mean he's over 4 million for total so far he's doing all right shit november 7th 1995 bit of a problem oh boy uh he's arrested in new york he's home um and what he gets arrested for is not terrific it is uh well we'll talk about it he's denying his misdemeanor assault charge that he had an argument with his girlfriend over another woman and um yeah he ends up basically she calls the cops they show up and she's got a black eye so not a good thing they're arguing she's got a black eye that generally doesn't just show up because she's mad uh yeah apparently there was an argument over another woman there was uh apparently they have a child together him he and her this is not his future wife i know but this is some other child that he has that i don't know
Starting point is 00:59:43 anything about he's got a child with her and uh there was an argument saying he's cheating which i mean he's an athlete so uh they got an argument and he ended up hitting her i guess to the point where he actually pleads guilty to uh he pleads guilty to hitting her and actually has to attend a therapy program for batterers wow so he socked her in the eye man he got her yeah it's unbelievable fucking not cool no so yeah he's him and his girlfriend a truck driver he's picking odd fights to go into here i don't understand this around throwing dicks in hallways oh my it's happening this is a hallway dick rod strickland's a bad man this is not cool well it gets he's very
Starting point is 01:00:25 he's got a real i'm arrogant type of streak like he's he's gonna do what he's gonna do basically and we'll talk and he seems to have these these times of contrition where he's like i'm gonna get it together they're right i shouldn't fucking take my dick out in the hallway and then he's like that fuck it i'll take my dick out in the hallway. And then he's like that. Fuck it. I'll take my dick out in the hallway. Like he's just it's a weird. It's not shocking when you saw the swagger. I mean, he had some. Yeah, which is great.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I like that. Just keep your dick in your pants. It's shocking. Keep your dick in your towel. Don't hit chicks. And then I don't care what the I love the fucking swagger and ballplay. I love it. That's what I want to say.
Starting point is 01:01:03 God damn it. So I like that in Portland here. This is November 7th, 1995. This is again right in the beginning of the season to right when you want this to happen. He's arrested again here. That is. No, I'm sorry. That's the same one.
Starting point is 01:01:20 That's the arrest for the black guy. Yeah, that's that is fucking terrible. And punched her in the face is what she claims. And in the left eye and temple. Yeah. Gave her a black eye, hit her twice is what she said. He's right-handed. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:01:34 So 95-96 Portland. They're 44-38. Guess what happens in the first round of the playoffs? Oh, they swapped? They lose to Utah. So there's that. Again, just they can't get out of that shit yeah rod though as pretty much his regular rod season 67 uh games 18.7 points a
Starting point is 01:01:53 game 9.6 assists 1.4 steals so it's that's the rod strickland line always with 18-ish points you know eight-ish or so assists. Consistent as shit. $2,280,000. Including the salary. We'll take it. Very consistent. Yeah, this is not a career I would mind having.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I would love to have this career. Right. I'd be so, I don't need the All-Star game. Fuck it. This is better. All that does is put focus on how much money I'm making
Starting point is 01:02:20 and how big of a deal I am. And otherwise, I got three days off. Right. Four days off. Now I gotta go fly somewhere else and do this and play more now jesus christ this is a lot of fuck around in that city where the all-star break is yes and just have a great time yes do you know how many strip clubs will be they'll be they'll be pop-up strip clubs they're all operating me
Starting point is 01:02:38 yeah good god it's that's what all-star weekend holy Holy shit. I can't wait. When you hear like every time there's a Super Bowl, how like they bring in party buses full of strippers. They bring in fucking. They have strip clubs like spirit Halloween stores. Yeah. That's what I mean. Pop up strip clubs like one of these restaurants that's open for a weekend. Rent this place for a month.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I'm only going to operate for three days. Then you can have the place back. And they don't care about regulations because they're coming and going right they're just fucking blowing people it's disgusting it's coming and going they are coming and then going yeah it's true it's the super bowl and the and the uh the rnc convention yeah is every single fucking time it's gross and i'll bet uh it's not a political thing it's just factual i've heard that from whatever i'll bet golf touring does that too i'll bet i'll bet there are uh uh strip clubs and and things of the sort that open up pretty free because ours is ours is disgusting james
Starting point is 01:03:37 it's truly gross everything here is gross yeah true everything in phoenix is covered in either jizz or dust. It's disgusting. But the waste management one, it's fascinating. It's great that the waste management is sponsoring because everybody there is trash. It is just disgusting. Interesting. Disgusting. I mean, there's a bunch of women that are trying to land a golfer and a bunch of dudes
Starting point is 01:03:59 in suits that run, I don't know, a carpet cleaning business that are trying to pick up the girls that don't land golfers. They're doing fucking PR. That's all it is. That's all it is. They're doing PR for some fucking vodka startup or some bullshit and they're going around, hey honey, yeah. I got a micro brew. You make it in your garage, Trevor. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:04:18 That label's peeling off. Did you lick that and stick it to it? Is that a Corona bottle? Looks like a Corona bottle. It says Corona. I don't know what it is. I can see it. That bottle has paint on it. Should have scraped it off.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Right. So, July 15th, 1996, the Blazers trade Rod with Harvey Grant to the Washington Bullets, who are still the Washington Bullets, for Mitchell Butler and Rasheed Wallace. No kidding. Yeah, so they're bringing in... Dallas when Rasheed went to Portland. Yeah, think about that. He was on Washington before that.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah, I remember that. That's where he got drafted. Yeah, I think so. So 96-97, he's with the Washington Bullets. This is the last season as the Bullets. This is when they changed to the Wizards after that, which is, what are we fucking seven i'm sorry that's really childishing up some bullets right i'm gonna make a stand here
Starting point is 01:05:10 on this because this is bullshit yeah i get that the bullets they're you know between the school shootings and school shootings on the street and kids kid on kid violence and crime rate in dc i get it yeah but you know what bullets are they're fast right and i think that's what they're going for that's the aim of it that's it they're saying we're fast and we run down the court fast like a bullet right which is it's a fucking you know what else are dangerous lions and fucking tigers and shit yeah so they shouldn't be a mascot either just they're dangerous just because you take the name off the team doesn't make those not exist. Yes, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:05:48 It doesn't make sense. Silliness. They're fast. That's what it is. We are such pussies. It's so fucking... I'm sorry, and I don't like fucking guns. It's stupid.
Starting point is 01:06:01 It's fucking stupid. It's just stupid. I i get the the the native american stuff that's that's fine whatever this that isn't this no that has nothing to do with this nothing to do with this i don't understand it isn't it isn't the bullets used uh to take the land from the natives so that's not the name of the team or that children used to shoot each other it's there we're fast. Right. Like a bullet. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:26 You know? Superman's still fast as a speeding one. We're the lions, so we're tough. Or we're the fucking bears, so we're tough. That's what it is. That's the idea. Big like a bear. We're intimidating.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Rawr. Get it? There's very few things more intimidating than bullets. Fly down the court like a bullet. Nope. Very few. We're going to be the wizards now. We're magical basketball people. We're literally things that don a bullet. Nope. Very few. We're going to be the wizards now. We're magical basketball people.
Starting point is 01:06:46 We're literally things that don't exist. Yeah. Here's the play, okay? Here we go. You throw me the ball, all right? You pass. I'll be coming down the right side. You pass.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I'm going to kick it to the middle. You disappear before the ball gets there, okay? Make yourself disappear, and that ball will bounce past you to the next guy, and then before pump fake, if he doesn't go for it, you turn him into a toad, okay? Make yourself disappear, and that ball will bounce past you to the next guy. And then before pump fake, if he doesn't go for it, turn him into a toad. Right. Okay? And then shoot the three.
Starting point is 01:07:11 All right? And break. Get the fuck out of here, man. Just throw it up. I'll do the wizard spell that makes it go in. Yeah, it'll bounce, and I'll make it go in like angels in the outfield. It'll be fun. I'll jiggle the hoop from the three-point line. I'll jiggle the hoop.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I'm going to jiggle the hoop over there. Hey, I'm jiggling the hoop from the three-point line i'm gonna jiggle a hoop over there hey i'm jiggling the hoop i'm making it go in don't worry about it just throw it the fucking wizards the stupidest well isn't it the wizards who uh had all the gunplay in the locker room too oh yeah yeah gilbert arenas and all that we went over that we're gonna change on him from the bullets to the wizards and then everybody's strapped magical bullet people it's so fucking it's so stupid in the 90s i don't know what happened in the 90s but everybody everything had to be for fucking six-year-olds in the night even vegas was for families now and remember that that was all the advertising every casino had a had a fucking
Starting point is 01:08:06 an arcade right next to it bring your kids to Vegas like it was what the why is Africans some things not be for children can we have something for our stuff there are nothing sacred for adults we're gonna put a team in Toronto what should we name it how about the Raptors
Starting point is 01:08:24 and we'll give it a fucking cartoony thing and we'll you know just because kids like jurassic park how about no we're gonna start a team in anaheim for the for hockey and what's an anaheim but disneyland what did they do all the ducks that's mighty ducks not just the ducks we're going hard for the movie the 90s and then they wonder why people like us who were teenagers were like you fuck all of you people and we're all you wonder why we embrace tupac so hard because that's why yeah because you tried to shove barney up our asses that's why in the mighty ducks right we were like no we don't want that. Gangsta Rat made me do it. Jimmy got to trade in his Bel Biv Devoe for Tupac. There you go.
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Starting point is 01:10:06 Only on Freebie. So, 96-97. He's on the bullets. They go 44-38. And they have three head coaches this year. So, that's never a good time. A good sign for a team. Signifies trouble trouble bad things coming
Starting point is 01:10:27 yeah they do make the playoffs though and swept in the first round rod strickland cannot get out of the first round of the playoffs for his life not only can he not get out of the first round he can't win a fucking game swept by the bulls it sucks because when he came in as like a freshman in college he went to like the sweet 16 right away. Hey, look at this. We're doing it. And then just never can win a fucking playoff thing again here. Tournaments are not for him anymore. No. And this team is these bullets.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Oh, my God. Calbert Chaney. He was great. He was great, Calbert Chaney. So good. He was very steady. Harvey Grant, Jawan Howard. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Jaron Jackson, Tim Legler. George Mirasan is on this team. You want to talk about a mutant. That's the best way to look to Giant Gonzalez, is he looked very Mirasani, where you're like, did they carve him out of something? That's not holding up? What's going on here?
Starting point is 01:11:20 The Bullets really loved freak tall centers. They did. Manute Bull, George Mirasan. I think Sean Bradley played there too, didn't't he i think they got him after a while yeah after he was they love a center that's just enormous which is weird because you never see it never works out a seven foot seven center winning a championship when's the last time you ever seen that yaoming maybe did he even win i don't don't think so. Did he win with the Rockets? I don't know now. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:46 He might be the last one. I mean, apart from Shaq. Ben Wallace on this team. Young Ben Wallace. Very young Ben Wallace at this point, which is pretty cool here. It's only his third year. Chris Weber on this team also over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:01 All right. So there's them. Now he, Rod Strickland, 17.2 points a game 8.9 assists 1.7 steals so not a bad year and even better on the paycheck side 3 million 36 thousand dollars for rod so hell yeah career's going well shit's going all right for old rod strickland here oh boy it's got 10 million dollars yeah he doesn't have it he doesn't have it but he's got he's at it he does have a 1997 white mercedes-benz oh and uh i know that because he was driving it on september 4th 1997 time of night uh eastbound on the uh new york avenue northwest which i think is dc at 1 50 a.m of course whenever we start with 1 50 a.m he of course. Whenever we start with 1.50 a.m., he's driving his Mercedes.
Starting point is 01:12:45 There's always a problem. It's never going to be good. He makes an illegal U-turn at 4th Street and is stopped at 1.50 a.m. And apparently, according to the police report, he began immediately to use derogatory and profanity-laced language toward the officer. and profanity-laced language toward the officer, and who also put in the report that he was, quote, acting loud and boisterous, which he might just be misinterpreting his New Yorkitude.
Starting point is 01:13:13 That's all. That's possible. There's a lot of people in my family that you could just say, oh, they're laughing loud and boisterous. That's just how they are. I mean, who knows? He's from New York, on New York Avenue. Yeah, he might just be coming out. Just be feeling right now.
Starting point is 01:13:27 I don't know what's going on. But apparently then the language got worse and we got abusive. And he said that the officer said disorderly conduct, quote, was, quote, what got him handcuffed and arrested in the first place. And he was cursing and verbally abusive. And then he said that he was asked to produce his I.D. and he was cursing and verbally abusive and then he said that he was asked to produce his id and he didn't have one on him and that's when they said well you need to have an id on you and that's when he became even more loud and boisterous and belligerent and i don't need an id i'm rod strickland god damn it okay you know me i'm almost on the all-star team
Starting point is 01:14:01 i'm this fucking close i swear to christ i could if you kill Gary Payton, if you kill him next year, I'm a fucking all-star. You count on that shit. Son of a bitch. Not even now he's in the East. Now he's in the East. Now he's got to compete with so much worse. Fuck. Yeah, it's gotten bad.
Starting point is 01:14:19 If you take out BJ Armstrong's legs, you'll see. You'll see, goddammit. So he starts doing that other vehicles started slowing down and stopping and it started to become a mess because they like you know it's they could see it's rod strickland so people hey look at that rod strickland's getting arrested it's two o'clock in the morning a six foot black guy in a mercedes at two in the morning and he's being arrested you're gonna have a gander yeah he's a distinctive looking guy rod too his face is very pick him out of a crowd yeah easily he's got a very distinctive face so uh the the cop requested assistance from other officers and apparently uh left the radio mic open and so you
Starting point is 01:14:58 could hear the him you could hear rod strickland everybody on the band rod strickland could hear him being quite abusive and yelling and cursing and doing all sorts of shit yeah which is kind of funny so that tape could be introduced as evidence of him doing it too that's being recorded it's being recorded rod strickland's attorney his name is billy martin here which don't hire an attorney yeah whose name is billy martin i just especially when you've been arrested for being loud and boisterous and drunk yeah those are the three things that billy martin did best is it really is it billy martin are we sure boisterous and drunk well he was dead by now so i'm sure it's not billy martin he had been killed in an accident while he was driving drunk
Starting point is 01:15:38 on christmas night get out oh absolutely that's how he died yeah billy martin shit face drunk coming home from the fucking bar on christmas night one car accident i think yeah crash crash into a tree or some shit wow crappy weather or whatever but don't drive shit face yeah he was probably fuck he was just always shit face so listening to sports talk screaming his head off that's always what he did he's probably driving fine it's probably just the weather who knows he had experience so uh the uh strickland here his billy martin says disorderly conduct relates to him being loud at the time he was arrested we believe the evidence will show that he was being mistreated had he not been rod strickland
Starting point is 01:16:16 a star of the washington wizards he would have been released from custody by signing a citation promising to reappear in court so uh also the problem is that's the disorderly conduct issue but the other problem is he refused to take a breathalyzer test right which you're not allowed to do yeah you have to take a breathalyzer if requested or whatever it is and so the charge of driving while intoxicated is warranted only when a breathalyzer obviously is above 0.10 at the time 0.10 at the time that's a lot so that's a lot you could be pretty pretty giving him some leeway that's what i mean you could be pretty good at that point and be like oh shit i'm under it we're giving you a handicap
Starting point is 01:16:54 yeah uh so uh they charged him with driving under the influence uh because they couldn't get an exact deal here the police officer did say quote he had a strong scent of alcoholic beverage on the scene and he was refusing all commands when he got back to the first district he refused everything he just sat in his cell and was not about to do anything so he just said i'm broad strickland right i play for the wizards god damn it and i don't have to do this so all right great good for you cough up your license it doesn't even need id right come on man um his attorney here billy martin here coming in silver yeah streak hair streaked with silver right up here he says his client's been
Starting point is 01:17:37 treated unfairly and he should not have been jailed overnight bullshit he said i think he was charged as charged as a result of driving driving an expensive mercedes-benz what oh shit somebody just listened to a jay-z album yeah that's and then uh wizards general manager wes unsold fucking legendary player he said we are aware of the charges made against rod strickland this morning and obviously this is a situation that washington sports and entertainment does not take lightly when we have the opportunity to speak with rod we'll hear his account of the incident until then we have no further information surrounding these events we will have no other comment and then we'll not get back to you and update you once
Starting point is 01:18:18 we talk to him yeah and this will never be mentioned again good night everybody have a good one yeah 97 98 wizards are 42 and 40 they got bernie bicker staff as the head coach now they don't make the playoffs and uh rod has a problem over the course of the season i'm sure are you surprised no he's starting to be a pattern here uh december 11th 1997 this is an internal problem this isn't a problem with the outside world women in a hallway police on the street this is with a teammate this isn't a problem with the outside world women in a hallway police on the street this is with a teammate oh who uh tracy murray really yeah tracy murray played with him in portland they should be pals nope not pals apparently well maybe they're pals but they
Starting point is 01:18:56 were pals they are um a certain type of brother i know that much as uh we'll get into they uh uh and not in like a you know ethnic way in a we'll see you'll know what i mean oh i already know i already know they uh they had a dispute the two had been brewing over a phone conversation that murray and a woman in los angeles were having yeah the woman taped this conversation which included murray making disparaging remarks about Strickland. Then she played this tape for Strickland. God damn it. Some broad, some ladies banging both of them and then taping them talking shit about each other and playing them for the other one.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Unbelievable. So like that's, come on, man. Eskimo brothers getting fucked over by her. She's having a ball. She loves it. They think they're playing her. And she's having a ball she loves it they think they're playing her and she's like no no no she's a couple of dumb holding the strings here chief i pull the strings so uh she does that uh they said that it wasn't clear what made this this has been going on for weeks apparently that you know oh and he talks shit about strickland and
Starting point is 01:20:02 rod's pissed and then they're going back and forth. This is great. But apparently it came to a head this night in a hotel when Strickland went over to Murray's hotel room. And this is in the afternoon. This isn't even a two in the morning in the afternoon. Went over his hotel room and they started fighting and scrapping and throwing down. Murray was left with a large bruise on the back of his upper left arm, a swollen lip, a left black eye, and a cut below the elbow. Strickland had... Dropping fucking rights on him.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Well, listen, the team doctor closed the cut before the game, and Strickland had a scrape below the knuckle of his middle finger. That's what he had. He had punching wounds. He was the dominant force in that fight murray's got all receiving wounds and strickland's got one fucking deliverance one delivering wound he used this fist to put a whooping on you and that was it repeatedly the back of tracy's left arm too so he hit he ended up murray ended up getting seven stitches below an eye to close a fucking cut and everything so it was rod's a bad man rod will work your ass over he wasn't taking
Starting point is 01:21:14 any shit murray's a bigger guy too stracy murray was a forward yeah he was a bigger guy small forward i think so yeah six seven though he's a big dude and he had a bit of a flat top too at first when he came in yeah he had that UCLA Tracy Murray. Added a couple more inches to him. Give him a couple more inches. Yeah, that Kenny Walker for the Knicks. He looked like he was 7'3", because he was like 6'8", and a giant flat top. So when asked about it, Rod Strickland said, quote, I have no comment on that.
Starting point is 01:21:41 My right hand's sore. I'm good. Yeah, it's a little sore. The coach, Bernie Bickerstaff, said, it's a family sore uh the coach bernie bickerstaff said it's a family matter and it needs to be resolved inside family as fuck family matter these eskimo brothers are going to need to work this out amongst themselves because i i can't unbelievable this is a mess i hope one of them finds his own girl that's what i hope what is it with the wizards and internal team strife like the Quran Butler?
Starting point is 01:22:07 They can never figure it out. Gilbert Arenas. That's what happens when your team gets along. But that's what happens when your team just historically loses. They constantly fucking lose. They're no good. And that eventually. Timberwolves aren't fighting each other, are they?
Starting point is 01:22:20 What the hell? I mean. The Mavericks figured it out for years. Well, it is before they got good. Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't understand what's happening here. What is going on? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:27 The Clippers. Yeah. Someone should have came in and mowed the whole fucking dressing room down with a machine gun at some point. Maybe they just thought it was hilarious that they all tried so hard but still lost. I guess. And the Wizards just are frustrated. But they also employ fucking straight up gangsters.
Starting point is 01:22:43 You know what I mean? Well, yeah, I guess. They have gangsters with... But there's gangsters everywhere. I suppose. In every league. I don't know. But why also employ fucking straight up gangsters. You know what I mean? Yeah. Gangsters. But there's gangsters everywhere in every league. Why is it with the Wizards? They can't. Darren Davis is a fucking gangster. Why are they fighting each other?
Starting point is 01:22:53 I don't know. I don't get it. Like, stop fighting each. I get if they're fighting other people. I mean, Xavier McDaniels, the goddamn league. But he wasn't fighting his teammates. He was fighting other people for his teammates. Bill and Peter, too. Yeah. Charles Oakleyley this is what happens when your team sucks historically i guess it must be that
Starting point is 01:23:11 has to be must be uh the general manager wes unsells like i've said it once i'm a legend everybody know that i'm a legend i used to be really good at this really when i played i know it looks like i never played i I let myself go a little. I'm still 6'11". I was great. I was great. Back when we were the Bullets, not these pansy. This all happened when we changed our name to the Wizards.
Starting point is 01:23:34 There's a spell cast upon the team. We changed to the Wizards. I now look like a pug, a giant one. It's not good. So Unseld said, quote alter all i know about is the altercation i'm trying to get in touch with both of those guys right now it's going to be handled and that's all i can tell you okay they said uh are you disturbed by this incident and he said quote it's very disturbing it's something that's not going to be tolerated okay i guess not uh rod plays he starts all 76 games he plays in this year 96 97 and uh um or
Starting point is 01:24:08 what year are we in 96 oh no 97 98 i apologize i'm in the wrong goddamn year uh 17.8 points a game and uh 10.5 assists which leads the league yeah and assists that's a lot finally cracks 10 1.7 steals so really good still not an all-star still not an all-star not an all-star not a bastard it's like fuck what do i gotta do 20 and 10 maybe would have done but he's still at this point because it's fan voting and shit and you're not going to make the starting team because the fans think of you as a third tier guy yeah you're not a starter on the all-star team but you might get a coach to take you except you keep getting arrested and fighting teammates and shit yeah you want to take the guy who might fight one of my other players are you going to take somebody who's all right gonna play the game what are we doing here so uh he goes to court on april
Starting point is 01:24:59 3rd 1998 where he is convicted of driving while impaired and was fined in order to complete a driver's alcohol awareness program and had to perform 30 hours of community service so you sir may i guess sort of fuck off mildly at least leave the room fuck off on out of this room back to your house here uh that is from the september 3rd arrest where he was with the cop there but he does make three million four hundred fifty thousand dollars this year so not too shabby rod strickland did great money he's doing fine and this isn't the this isn't the peak of it not yet he's gonna get more uh 98 99 with the wizards here uh this bernie bicker staff gets shit canned here uh during this one this is the 50-game season. This year, they suck, the Wizards.
Starting point is 01:25:47 They're 18-32. Who cares? In 50 games. April 25th, 1999, 3.45 a.m., Jimmy. 3.45. What do you think is going to happen? Good things? Downtown D.C.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Good things are happening? Where's he at? Well, he is arrested on charges of drunken and reckless driving, which is three weeks after his probation ended for a driving while impaired conviction. Idiot. He's like, yeah, I can do it. I took a class. I know how to do this now.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Yep. 3.45 a.m., obviously the best time to get arrested. This is D.C., 3.45 a.m. He's pulled over in his gold Mercedes. Oh, he upped it. Yeah. I got a gold one now, which is nothing worse than a gold car. No, it's not one of the gold wrapped ones now that like look metallic.
Starting point is 01:26:35 No, no, no. Gold with like sparkle. This is a fucking metallic gold. Right. Yeah. Mercedes with gold. Probably gold. Emblems.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah. So it looks it's very gaudy it's very italian gangster or exactly realtor or nba player or yeah something like that he or any nfl player too yeah there's this one story about uh in the usfl book where it's remember keith millard no the vikings defensive lineman in the 80s 90s no he's a big goofy white guy and he got into the league and he's a giant defense like six foot six 290 fucking pound defensive lineman or something she's this giant guy six five or whatever and he said he really really wanted a mercedes really bad like he just had to have a mercedes right then because he got his money and any car as long as it says mercedes needed a mercedes so he went to the dealership and the only one because it was like texas during the oil boom so the only
Starting point is 01:27:31 one that they had available that you could actually buy right then that you didn't have pre-order was ugly was a uh one of the small ones the tiny ones two doors shit brown oh my so he's like i'll take it because he wanted it right there so he literally said he had like fucking cuts in his legs from being pressed against the side because he couldn't fit in the car and like people had to help him out of it and it was shit brown that's a mercedes and he said everybody made fun of him for the whole time he was in the usfl over it because he's such a fucking idiot and he overpaid for it And he overpaid for it. And he overpaid for it. Yeah, of course. I'm sure he paid cash and pissed it away. So anyway, he's pulled over for speeding.
Starting point is 01:28:11 And then the police said as they followed him, he ran three red lights and changed lanes without signaling while he was speeding. So they're like, wow. He's just stacking up the fucking violations on him. There's all kinds of probable cause. All kinds of shit. So they gave him a sobriety test, which according to the police, quote, he apparently did not pass. So there was that. He wouldn't take a breathalyzer.
Starting point is 01:28:36 He was released on his own recognizance. And they asked the wizards, Wes Unseld, what do you say about it? And he said, hold it one minute I just gotta take this I gotta explain to the owner that we were terrible and now I have to explain to you why we're terrible by the way you know who's an ownership group right now Michael Jordan is he is he part of it now yeah so stop it at this moment yeah oh my god he's got to tell the best ever he says okay all right keep this he says quote the wizards organization is disappointed yeah because rod has been exceptional this year in terms of the fans
Starting point is 01:29:20 and his commitment to the franchise we hope to garner more information but for now the situation is in the hands of legal authorities yeah motherfucker makes me do that one more time how many times they're gonna come to me for comment every time this fucking asshole does something roger strickland annoys me right that's what it is i wouldn't care if you got arrested but they ask me about it they arrest you and then the next phone call is to me hey what do you think about this that's what i have to do i have to go we're disappointed but we still i have to fucking do that for you can i just call you a jerk off from now on we have an agreement that if he gets arrested i just get to call him
Starting point is 01:30:00 a jerk off he's not allowed to be offended so 98 99 though he does score 15.7 points 9.9 rebounds are rebounds jesus that'd be wild how is he doing that he gets like he's not a rebounder he's like a three rebound a game guy so those are accidental ones that bounce out there when they go too far yeah 9.9 assists 1.7 steals three years in a row 1.7 steals. Three years in a row, 1.7 steals. 99-2000 for the Wizards. He's 29-53. Oh, God. Not good. Executives here are Wes Unseld and Michael Jordan takes an active role here.
Starting point is 01:30:36 So this is, you got Jordan up your ass now. This is a pain in the ass if you're Rod Strickland. But he does get a big old fat contract this year. Why? What? I don't know why you're giving him a contract. But he does get a big old fat contract this year. Why? What? I don't know why you're giving him a contract. Did he just age into it? I guess so.
Starting point is 01:30:50 He was up there. He plays in 69 games. 67 started. 12.6 points a game. So it's the worst since his second year in the league. 7.5 assists, which is his worst since his first rookie year. 1.4 steals, which is his worst since the second first rookie year. 1.4 steals, which is down 10 million bucks, though. For that year?
Starting point is 01:31:10 10 million dollars. Holy shit. It's a lot of money. It really is. Wow. That is Michael Jordan pissing money away. That's a lot. Well, he was like, I'm going to put the Wizards on the map.
Starting point is 01:31:23 That's what it was. The next year, he comes out and fucking plays. Remember? That's when he was 0-1, 0-2. He was fucking playing. For the team he owns. Playing below the rim like crazy. It's weird to see fucking Air Jordan turn to Mud Jordan out there.
Starting point is 01:31:37 It's just weird to watch him play below the rim. Playing in quicksand. That's what it looked like. It's like he's going to go up. Oh, nope. It's a layup. Never mind. He's not going up anywhere. And it's a pass's a pass hope he pulled back for a fadeaway a lot
Starting point is 01:31:48 of fadeaway jumpers at that point it was like i remember jordan having that many fadeaway jumpers it's a lot he's always good at him but come on april 7 2000 rod's talking about retiring it's just it's just a pain enough he's just it's he's not feeling it jimmy that's the thing 10 million dollars that makes me not feel it either. It'll make you go, I don't know. I just don't know if I want to do it anymore. I think I can disappear and nobody will know anything. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:32:12 He said that he told reporters Wednesday he considered retiring, but he said, quote, honestly, I felt like this is enough. I felt like this is enough. He said, there's been times without a doubt that retirement has crossed my mind plenty of times but I want to play I feel like I want to redeem myself I thought a lot about retirement and he decided that no no he's not going to retire he's going
Starting point is 01:32:34 to come back god damn it he's it was this his agent Rod's decision was Rod's decision and if that's the best way he felt he should handle it then that's the way he felt all right sounds right okay then those words make sense sure those words are all words in a row thank you none of those are out of context rod's played for 10 years now yeah wow 10 years in the league making dough october 29 2000 he is arrested yeah uh more than this one's
Starting point is 01:33:02 pretty kind of bullshit though uh more than 3 000 people turn up for a special event commemorating howard university's homecoming howard homecoming is kind of a big deal it's like the one of the biggest like kind of college like black parties in the country it's a big deal uh so uh listening you know they're doing there's casino games and music and tents and it's a big deal it's like it's like a giant no he didn't go there but it's like i said it's i mean even a fucking biggie lyric he talks about howard homecoming it's a big giant event sure so uh especially east coast so the trouble begins after dc police fire marshals and investigators from the dc alcoholic beverage control board arrived about one o'clock
Starting point is 01:33:46 in the morning and uh we're looking at these tents these you know crowds in these tents and the police that are the fire chief here said that uh uh they people there were employees were told they didn't have a permit to sell alcohol in this particular tent that they were selling alcohol in so the tent party shifted into the main building everybody from there went inside where you could buy alcohol which then put them over the fire oh no martial code which even though they directed everybody in there the fire fucking marshal the alcohol people did that so the fire marshal people set up gonna cite you for overcrowding and so so then I guess the D.C. police decided to just close the place down after that. And the decision to shut it down was about 2 a.m. It wasn't supposed to end till four.
Starting point is 01:34:34 So people were pissed off. And Rod ends up getting arrested. You wonder how the fuck does that happen? Well, that's because he refused to leave the place that was shut by fire marshals. That's that's what the police say at first. They were over their occupancy permit. He refused to leave. He was arrested on misdemeanor charge of unlawful entry and released on his own recognizance.
Starting point is 01:34:56 But Strickland's lawyer says that he was at the club with a group of friends, fire marshals, you know, so we're talking about the size of the group and he said that the uh a group of officers approached strickland's group quote made several disparaging remarks and told the group to leave well that happens a few minutes later strickland and others began making their way to the door and they say quote officers attacked him from behind choking him dragging him outside we don't have any shortage of witnesses about what happened is what they said. So, I mean, yeah, the lawyer also said since there were hundreds of people acting in exactly the same manner as Mr. Strickland, but he's the only one who got who was picked up. It doesn't require a leap of faith to believe that it's who it was, not what he was doing. That was the deciding factor for police.
Starting point is 01:35:44 It's also in D.C. and the D.C. police have had plenty of interaction with this guy. Yeah, plenty of, yeah. I am not Tracy Murray, motherfucker. So the police spokesman declined to comment, but said anytime a citizen feels they were mistreated by a police officer, they should file a complaint so we can investigate it properly. So November 4th, 2000, a few days later, fire marshal drops the charges. There are the charges are dropped from the fire marshal thing.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Prosecutors dropped the charges saying Strickland was the only person in a crowd of several hundred to be arrested and charged with unlawful entry, which just didn't make sense as a prosecutor. Prosecute one guy for unlawful. They didn't. It wasn't disorderly conduct. He didn't take a swing at a cop. It's you can't prosecute one guy for unlawful he didn't it wasn't disorderly conduct he didn't take a swing at a cop it's you can't prosecute him for that so they said further investigation revealed that the fire marshal did not actually close republic gardens uh without the order to close there was no basis to which to charge mr strickland which makes sense uh rod said the verdict sent a message
Starting point is 01:36:42 that lets people know that if you're a celebrity or a personality or so-called personality, it doesn't give the cops the right to get extra adrenaline and put handcuffs on you. Okay, Rod. Okay, Rod. They always do, though. Calm down, Rod. You've given people plenty of reasons to put handcuffs on you. There's a lot. There's more coming up, too.
Starting point is 01:37:02 He says this is another one of his lawyers i've read statements from four different lawyers of his in the last like couple years he's got a lot of lawyers he said the police were out of control they put a chokehold on a man who was not resisting arrest and dragged him outside by the neck there was every indication they targeted rod yeah there's no reason for any of that shit and that's why they dropped the charges probably so he wouldn't fucking sue them um uh he says he says uh uh quote well you know what let's do it in their own words let's give rod yeah let's see how he feels about this yeah why not i feel like he hasn't had a chance to speak for himself he says in their own words quote i'm happy thankful that the prosecutor
Starting point is 01:37:41 understood that there was nothing to the case but that still doesn't do anything for the fact that i got put in a chokehold and dragged out of a club and put in the middle of the street face down i was embarrassed and humiliated yes now stop choking people and especially not people who aren't fucking causing violence to anybody i'm no reason to do that i'm also shocked he didn't have that uh that statement when he punched a woman in the face they nobody choked him then yeah yeah that's a weird thing so uh 2000 2001 season starts or i'm sorry 2000 yeah 2001 here uh january 9th 2000 he is arrested again uh obviously he uh uh is arrested and charged with drunk driving again yeah so he likes to do that this is this thing yeah he hasn't played in two weeks because of an injured shoulder and a clash with management over his work habits oh boy so they've basically he's fighting with michael
Starting point is 01:38:36 jordan who's calling him lazy jordan's like i played through the flu i'm still playing i'm 53 years old look at me i can't even jump anymore, and I'm playing. For Christ's sake, I'm wearing loafers out here, and I'm playing. I should only play golf. Yeah, my game has been golf lately, and I'm playing basketball. He asked to be traded from the team. He was tired. This time, he's arrested early Sunday after driving erratically on the parkway near cia headquarters in mclean virginia wow which
Starting point is 01:39:06 they're probably looking you can't you can't drive erratically around the cia headquarters probably a cop or two patrolling yeah uh u.s spark u.s park police ended up pulling him over because he's like a federal thing because you're by the goddamn cia government buildings yeah big deal charged him with driving under the influence and failure to stay in the lanes so this is in virginia so he's got a lot he's just got a lot yeah he's got a lot i mean this is the type of guy where you just want to tell him hey you know what you don't have to go out every friday night no you know what i mean yeah it's all just because it's friday doesn't yeah you still got jobs to do man you know what sometimes after the game maybe you're just tired maybe you just go home you crap crap you crack a couple of beers you know you order
Starting point is 01:39:51 some food you just kind of unwind for a while and stretch out when he can't do it saturday game bro what are you doing all the time yeah stop doing that so i mean finally someone convinces him though he's like i gotta just i to relax. I got to unwind. I got to just stay home. And while he's there, though, he noticed he's been neglecting things in his house. Things are broken. He's like, Jesus Christ, where have I been? I've been out.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I'm always out. I've been in jail. His toilet's messed up. He needs someone to fix it. And only one man for that job. And he calls him up. It's Paul Calhoun, shit pipe enthusiast. And he says.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Hey, how is it you come to arrive here, guy? Because you. Oh, Christ. I looked. Yeah, I know your shit pipes are clogged. I get it. I opened them up and i'm i'm i'm getting i got vodka bottles in there i got all sorts of shit women what the hell is this you
Starting point is 01:40:50 got the towel stuffed in there i see a oh is this a michael josh shit stain michael jordan jersey for wizards michael jordan jersey i got stuffed in there you got all sorts of things i'm telling you it's too much yeah your shit pipes are clogged, mister, and they're clogged with everything. Look at you. I see this is just, see this? I snake this out. This is just a big, it's just a big rod of hubris. I don't know how you clogged your, I don't know how you clogged your pipes with hubris. You shit hubris?
Starting point is 01:41:16 But you did, and then you wiped your ass with a Michael Jordan jersey and shoved it in there. Tried to push it in with a vodka bottle. I don't know what's going on with you but uh i see a mercedes key in there get your fucking shit together what's wrong with you you're making 10 million dollars a year hanging out with michael jordan you're fucking bumming poof uh he disappears and rod is very happy that his shit pipes are now clear but he's now has to think about his life which he's not thrilled with at all it's a problem it's still backed up it's still backed up it's well it's gonna get worse it's gonna get worse march 1st 2001 he is waived by the wizards two months later big shit can him he's done march 5th though 2001
Starting point is 01:41:57 he's signed as a free agent by the trailblazers he can still play so why not uh this year i don't know he has kind of a half-assed year, 12 points a game or whatever. $10 million, though. Wow. Hey, you cut him. You still got to pay him. Oh, my God. So he made his $10 million.
Starting point is 01:42:12 That is amazing. Yeah, he'll take it. September 2001. September 2001, a court commissioner here issues an arrest warrant for Rod Strickland, charging him with second degree assault for allegedly knocking a 21 year old waitress unconscious with a punch what during a listen jimmy a parking lot brawl outside a tgi fridays get out of my life get the fuck oh he's knocking
Starting point is 01:42:41 women out over appetizers come on man what the fuck and he said i had i had a little drop of i don't like that he gave a girl black eye back in the day let's say he was young and now he's learned his lesson okay fine tgi fridays i hate the duis but i you know what the fuck i don't like the attitude but you know what i get it and like all this type of shit i'm trying to be on his side i'm trying to i on his side. I'm trying to fucking. He makes it real hard. The dick waggling. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:43:09 I'm done with this guy now. And now this, it's like you can't. You make $10 million a year. You literally have Michael Jordan's phone number. Right. You call him up and go, hey, Mike. Well, not anymore because he cut you. But it's a problem. You can call up fucking Clyde Drexler, I'm sure, and say hello.
Starting point is 01:43:23 And you're in a TGI Friday parking lot in a position to punch a waitress? Right. What the fuck are you doing? How did that even happen? Did he- Get your life together. Did he-
Starting point is 01:43:36 What the fuck? Apparently, there was a parking lot brawl. Oh, my. What are you- It wasn't even one-on-one. After his night at TGI friday fridays you're getting involved in a fucking brawl okay i have oh boy i haven't we're not rich people at all i have nowhere near 10 million dollars but i am not going to tgi fridays one because it's terrible but
Starting point is 01:43:58 if i am in a tgi friday's four on the road or something i'm not drawing attention to myself and someone starts like the shit starts popping off i go let's get out of here i'm not drawing attention to myself and someone starts like the shit starts popping off i go let's get out of here i'm not gonna tgi i'm not gonna fight for the fridays if a fight starts happening at tgi fridays i look to whoever i'm with and say this is why we don't come to tgi fridays what are we doing here throw down for fridays what are you having a fucking fantasy baseball draft what are we doing here defend the honor of fridays over here get the fuck out of here i'm not doing that shit no it's your fucking mozzarella sticks oh disgusting so he's second degree assault knocks a waitress unconscious wow apparently uh it was not based on a strickland's attorney though says that the warrant was not based on findings by police
Starting point is 01:44:39 but on a private citizen's complaint filed by the waitress. You know, a police report. When you call the cops and you say, I'm a victim. I was punched unconscious by somebody. Then they investigate it. They're saying the cops didn't independently know about it, which is, I don't know how they would. There was not a TGI Friday's task force out tonight.
Starting point is 01:45:00 That's right. They weren't roaming the parking lot looking for NBA brawls. He called the allegations absolutely untrue. He said said i'm confident that it will be taken care of strickland's just trying to focus on what's ahead he says quote you have to just judge me on what happens in miami because he's about to sign with miami okay hopefully by the end of the year all these things will be over uh over with and all of you will look at me in a different light. I'm just trying to be a positive influence and trying to win games. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:29 October 22, 2001, he signs with Miami. Yeah. So there he is. 2001-2, Miami. They're 36-46. Yeah. It's a bad team. They had mourning at the end.
Starting point is 01:45:40 I think it's one kidney mourning. LeBron isn't there yet. No. Eddie House. They have Eddie House. Yeah. They have Kendall Gill. mourning. LeBron isn't there yet. No. Eddie House. They have Eddie House. They have Kendall Gill. This is a Lafonzo Ellis. End of great careers.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this isn't good at all. They're not great. And they don't make the playoffs. Rod, though, 10.4 points a game. He's down a lot. 6.1 rebounds, 1.1 steals. Rebounds? I'm sorry, assists. I six point one rebounds one point one steals rebounds
Starting point is 01:46:05 or i'm sorry assists assists i want to say rebounds i want you to be taller rod he does make 4.75 million dollars for that year though so they gave him 25 million dollars in three years james he's doing fucking phenomenal that's amazing it's a lot of tgi friday it's so much it's you could buy so much of those terrible mozzarella sticks. So October 27, 2002, right before the season, he signs with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:33 He did like a year on a team shit at the end there. They go 51 and 31. They have Kevin Garnett, Kendall Gill again. Jesus, can't get away from him. Let's see here center mark jackson not not point guard mark jackson anthony peeler joe smith who was a number one draft pick wally zerbiak joe smith who was white poor career yeah number one to not so great uh this is uh 51 and 31 though they do make the playoffs and they lose to the lakers yes so there
Starting point is 01:47:05 you go there's that and uh rod though uh oh boy not great he plays in 47 games only averages 20 minutes a game but still 6.8 points a game way down lord 6.8 points 4.6 assists and one point and one steal even so it is all down down down it's not good he makes 1 million 30 000 that year he hangs it up now right and uh nope november 25th 2003 signs as a free agent yeah with the orlando magic what and uh yeah he only lasts a few months on the team he makes 887 313 317 dollars though that's great so he does that for hardly anything march 5th 2004 signs a contract for the rest of the season with the toronto raptors i remember this yeah that i do remember uh only averages like four points a game on his
Starting point is 01:47:58 not wonderful that was a bad team yeah it really was the whole thing was a fucking disaster uh and he was a free agent for a while before the raptors picked him up orlando waved him in october wow so i mean he played i want to say he played a few games for orlando and they shitcanned him so uh of january 19th 2005 he is signed as a free agent by the Houston Rockets. Really? Yep, the Rockets got him. Jeff Van Gundy, the coach. And they go 51-31 and make the playoffs. And they lose in the first round. It's the Strickland curse.
Starting point is 01:48:34 It's a curse. It's got to be. Has nobody ever noticed this other than, obviously, Strickland? I'm sure he noticed it. He cannot get out of the first race. He's got to be like, motherfucker. And this is a seven-game series. Whether we're're swept whether it's seven i can't win the second that your team uh hires and signs strickland you have to know you're not making it even if you're a great team yeah first round is all you get that's it enjoy it and this
Starting point is 01:48:59 this has a lot of old guys on this team too vin. Vin Baker. He wasn't old, I don't think. Where was he? He was old at the time. This is Houston. Vin Baker. We got Jawan Howard, Jim Jackson. Holy shit, man. I didn't even know that any of those guys played for them. Tyrone Liu, Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Mutombo in his fucking 32nd year. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:49:23 This is a lot of fucking um charlie ward charlie ward was still playing holy fuck he's a heisman trophy winner still playing basketball for christ's sake clarence weatherspoon how long was he in the league this is his 13th season clarence weatherspoon the old sixer now probably i don't know the old sixer there crazy what a fucking mess so uh rod averages ready for this jimmy plays in 16 games averages 1.8 points a game oh my 2.4 rebounds how many games uh that is 16 games not good he scored 16 points over the whole time not not a good thing here at all yeah it's it's pretty fucking piss poor. And he finally hangs it up from there.
Starting point is 01:50:09 It's about time. His career earnings, though, approximate career earnings, $41,163,317. That's Charles Barkley money. Yeah, they made the same amount of money. That's unbelievable. He made the same amount of money as an mvp perennial all-star two-time gold medalist almost champion won a playoff series holy shit won several and several made the same amount of money and he only played that that's just from being in the coming into
Starting point is 01:50:37 the league two years later yeah that the money was that much different already unreal so uh i found on basketballreference.com they have their hall of fame probability based on numbers his hall of fame probability is 0.2 percent so we're gonna go ahead and probably say he's not gonna make the hall of fame just a uh just a shade over uh belushi's gpa in uh i was gonna animal i was gonna say a shade over my chances of getting into the nba hall of fame literally 0.2 percent more of a chance of getting in i didn't even have to play a day i didn't do shit not one game i worked very little at it so right away that's a fucking guy so right away he is hired uh as a head coach or as a coach in the front office at the University of Memphis, the Tigers.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Isn't that where Anthony Hardaway played, I believe, there? Which I remember seeing highlights of him back then when he was being drafted. It looked like he was in a high school gym. So hopefully Memphis has upped their game since then. I'm sure they've gotten a little more money since then. Yeah, it looked bad, though there was like bleachers and shit i was like what is going on here uh it's under coach john calipari who's a you know big time coach and uh hires him as the assistant coordinator of basketball operations that's a
Starting point is 01:51:59 big deal seems like a big job that is gonna say if you're like a step below the guy like a like the head of the athletic department assistant coordinator of i don't know if that's a made-up position for him like we want to get him in are there several assistants i don't know is there a coordinator of basketball yeah because the coordinator is basically the fucking coo i guess but in a college so you have the athletic director yeah then you have the head coach uh-huh but the no you have the athletic director. Yeah. Then you have the head coach. Uh-huh. But no, you have the athletic director, then the fucking person that is above it. That's usually the coach, though, in college. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:31 They run their own programs. Fuck. Yeah. They run their own programs. It's not that guy and then him? I mean, there might be a guy who does like paperwork and books hotels and makes sure the basketballs are inflated. But yeah, you have have no say in anything.
Starting point is 01:52:45 I don't think the operations guy. That sure sounds like the guy that's in charge of everything. It does. The guy in charge of football operations is just below the fucking owner. Yeah, but this is coordinator of basketball. I don't know how that works. So either way, Calipari said, quote, he may have been the best point guard in the league who didn't have the big name.
Starting point is 01:53:05 He could drive and get in the lane and do what we're trying to do here. He'll be a great resource for these guys, even if he's not in a coaching position. Yeah, it's good to have NBA players around. Hopefully he doesn't teach them how to do beer bongs and open their towels at inopportune times. And punch women.
Starting point is 01:53:20 And punch women. Watch out for that one. He lives in Maryland, and yeah, he was uh beginning work there they said that he will uh assume light duty he will assume the duties if not the title of the former coordinator of basketball operations who left the month before they said that he's calipari has yet to determine the hierarchy yet the coach is in charge of everything okay that's i mean this is all shit that the coach puts in place basically you're the lord emperor of the school if you're the
Starting point is 01:53:48 coach of a major sports program you're in charge you install your own cabinet yeah you're exactly that's what it is you're in charge of everything you tell you know you you get the program going because it's all you're the one who's going to get blamed for it's fucked up so it kind of makes sense i guess so uh they said he'll do that they don't really know where he's going to be yet but uh strickland has been because he was with the nets and sixers so he's known him through that he said that uh strickland attended a number of memphis games in the past and he was had a good relationship with people around there and uh whatever so rod says quote i got a phone call saying that the coach was interested in
Starting point is 01:54:25 hiring me i called calipari about two seconds after that coach told me about the opportunity i was listening but i was ready to say yeah all he had to do was say you want the job because i am unemployed right because i need one i am fucking bored i'm unemployed i ain't got no job i'm gonna go to tgi fridays if you don't hire me. I am going to punch a waitress in a TGI Fridays. I swear to God, I'll knock her unconscious. I will. I'll fucking do it. So Strickland said he is about a year and a half away from earning his undergraduate
Starting point is 01:54:54 degree because he left DePaul in his junior season, and he's been taking courses on the side here. He needs his degree before he can think about becoming a full-time college assistant, he said. He's got to needs his degree before he can think about becoming a full-time college assistant. He said, it's got to get his degree. He said, quote, that's the, my, uh, that's the biggest challenge. Just being back in class with young people. Even now, my stomach is a little funny. I played in front of 20,000 people and I'm nervous about going to class.
Starting point is 01:55:17 What sounds like a nightmare though. Yeah. I'm in a fucking class and sitting there as a 30 year old. Yeah. It was like a 34 year old at this point with down people that are 20 like i made 40 million dollars you just fucking you just asked your mom for 30 this is bad 40 million dollars in student debt yeah that's it's the equal september 2008 rod is inducted into the new york Basketball Hall of Fame. At the same time, also inducted is Kenny Anderson and Sam Perkins as well.
Starting point is 01:55:49 I love Sam Perkins. The calmest looking motherfucker ever. Always under control. Got it all covered, baby. It's all good. April 12, 2010, he is pulled over in Lexington after he ran a red light. So not great. The report says that an officer saw Strickland run a red light at the intersection, nearly striking another vehicle and having kind of swerve away from it.
Starting point is 01:56:15 So they said he failed a sobriety test, including standing on one leg, walking, turning and reciting his ABCs forward. OK. Oh, Ron. Right. turning and reciting his abcs forward okay oh ron right he drinks to the point of maybe he doesn't know him at all no yeah maybe uh okay but drinks to the point i get backwards if you are so drunk i can't do backwards now no no way no fucking way i can do an alphabet backwards but forwards if you're so drunk that you legit go what fucking letter comes after that that's on you yeah you put your hands out and just get cuffed go i fucking man i'm really you got so drunk you lost your abcs you lost your letters how did you do that you are no longer lettered you lost letters that fucking rhyme man that's yeah it's a song you
Starting point is 01:57:02 could sing that shit how do you they tell you not to sing it, though. I've seen it on Live PD without singing it, they say. Well, how the fuck? I don't know how to do that. That's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:10 I would look. Shit, I haven't said it like that, I don't know, ever, because they taught us to sing it and we've been doing it ever since. You motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:57:19 That's like telling me don't sing the lyrics to Brown Eyed Girl. Yeah. Go. What? Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 01:57:24 I will do that. It's going to happen. Yeah, if I hear it, give me the lyrics to Sweet Caroline, don't sing the lyrics to brown-eyed girl yeah go what yeah sorry i will do that yeah if i hear give me the lyrics to sweet caroline don't sing it yeah impossible well that's very possible for me i can very much not sing it i won't sing it at all how about that you fucking drunken mix fucking drunks so uh he refused a breathalyzer yeah he just he never will do a breathalyzer he's not gonna have that number on there and the officer said his breath smelled strongly of alcohol that's why the breathalyzer came to begin with he ends up surrendering his driver's license and pleading guilty to the DUI later on in that September. Now, after this arrest, he's demoted in his job. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Yeah, the University of Kentucky decided to remove him from the Wildcat coaching staff where he was Calipari's top assistant. Yeah. And moved him to an administrative position within the university. Fuck, bad timing. Answer these phones. Yeah, basically basically paperwork which sucks because apparently there was a shitload of open head coaching positions that he was up for all
Starting point is 01:58:32 around the country including his alma mater depaul which had been had expressed interest in him as a head coach so my god he blew it he went from yeah i'm gonna go back and coach my alma mater and do this too i'm gonna fucking do paperwork in the kentucky awful that's bad shit um now they're talking about uh um they even talked about calipari's talking about going to the nba so strickland could have been in line to succeed him in kentucky even because he was a top assistant so and even there um you know could have gone somewhere either way he's going to get a decent program sure to coach um so i mean jesus that's rough man uh the problem is they said is you know he can still coach obviously but they have to send from a recruiting standpoint he's
Starting point is 01:59:18 one of the guys they send out right he goes how are you going to send him out to somebody's living room to sit down with their parents after he just got his fucking fourth dui how are you going to send him out to somebody's living room to sit down with their parents after he just got his fucking fourth DUI? How are you going to say, I'm going to make sure to keep an eye on your son and I'm a responsible guy? When it's like, didn't I read about you getting a fucking DUI last month? Yeah. He also can't send him out and get him off a plane and be like, no, go pick up a rental car. That's the other thing. He's got no goddamn driver's license.
Starting point is 01:59:41 He's got to drive with another coach. Jesus Christ. So August 2nd, 2012, he's arrested on a Thursday morning of driving on a suspended license, failure to signal, having no registration. He will not signal or stop for red lights, this guy. I don't understand it. He's arrested on East Maxwell and South Martin Luther King Boulevard. And yeah, he's released on a bond. They pulled him over.
Starting point is 02:00:07 He's driving to work. His license showed up as suspended when they ran the information through the computer. Sure. And then apparently there was this is from problems in Tennessee where he had a problem with his license and it was suspended there yeah because he drinks exactly so they said uh according to strickland his vehicle proper was properly registered and he produced his driver's license at the scene and they said they're trying to figure out why it was suspended apparently to get his license reinstated in kentucky after a dui he must complete an alcohol education program and pay a $40 reinstatement fee.
Starting point is 02:00:48 And apparently, according to his driving records, he did complete the program and paid the fee a week later. But his license never got reinstated in the computer. So he got fucked on that one. Oh, no. Big thing. Arrested driving again. Yeah. Mug shot.
Starting point is 02:01:03 He looks miserable. And it's not his fault he went to the class he paid the fine and he's properly registered everything was fine and instead he's fucked he's been an asshole this whole episode yeah but just right now you gotta kind of feel fucking bad for him you know what i mean honestly this is like okay everything's his fault except this one yeah i fuck up enough on my own that if something happens that's not my fault no one believes me that i didn't do it they think he must have been me immediately i don't need your help being an idiot i do that just fine all day everyone goes oh this
Starting point is 02:01:34 asshole again wes unsells somewhere went oh it's like fuck guy even though he's not my responsibility. I mean, you got to feel a little bad for him. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Rod Strickland. Oh, no, it's got to be so deep. Oh, yeah. Look at this Rod Strickland, too. Just the dorkiest, whitest guy ever. Partner at Wilson, Sonsini, Goodrich, and Rosati. Law firm, I think, in Palo Alto, California.
Starting point is 02:02:03 More pizza place. They have great. Say the name again. Great crazy bread. No, Wilson, Sonsini, Goodrich, and Rosati. Rosati's is why you got that. Sonsini. And the Sonsini.
Starting point is 02:02:16 It's a Sonsini. We let the Goodrich come in. You buy in. Now, Rod Strickland, program manager at the IRS in Ogden, Utah. So, yeah. Rod Strickland, manager at O'Neill Hagman PLLC in Nashville. Again, professional shit, not him. Rod Strickland, VP of Finance at IO Studio LLC in Nashville.
Starting point is 02:02:38 And finally, Rod Strickland, director of logistics at TVH Parts Company in Oloth, Kansas. Look at this fucking guy. Poor bastard. What a bad place to be. Oloth. How nerdy. And then finally, my favorite of all, Dr. Rod P. Strickland, DDS, the inventor of the FOI dentures.
Starting point is 02:03:01 His diverse education includes molecular biology and genetics he's a fucking amazing dentist and he's always been dedicated to stretching the limits of what dental technology can provide for patients he's licensed to practice dentistry in three states georgia indiana and south carolina what he is those are really they're not even Georgia and South Carolina are connected I am licensed to practice dentistry in Alaska and Florida it's both and I'm working I'm working on Vermont right now but well fingers crossed we're gonna get Vermont in the mix you can't have like a centrally located office what a fucking weird ass fucking thing there that is so yeah the inventor of the dentist and you know
Starting point is 02:03:45 people are like rod strickland invented dentures somebody said that amazing an upgrade an amazing set yes uh by the way i will say this all these arrests there's been a lot of arrests it's hard to overlook rod strickland's arrest they happen quite frequently it's not like one little bunch of them he's steadily spread them out over his whole career. Very similar to his points and assists and steals. Yes. Mad consistent. Even consistent. It's like a good peanut butter sandwich.
Starting point is 02:04:11 He spread it nice and perfect over the whole thing. Very even. I implore you, look up his Wikipedia page and find an arrest. Find a negative thing about an arrest anywhere. Unbelievable. It is just Rod's a good coach and Rod played well and Rod's Kyrie Irving's godfather. It's not even there.
Starting point is 02:04:32 It's like Vernon Maxwell. It said nothing about arrests. We found 37 arrests, literally over 35 arrests. We're like, how does it not say anything on his Wikipedia about this? The NBA, if you're involved in it because we'll talk about rod's works for the nba right now oh if you're involved anywhere in their bubble they fucking scrub your wikipedia page clean constantly unless it's something that was so
Starting point is 02:04:56 public that it was like i'm sure if you were you know oj and you work for the nba they can't say yeah scrub that but otherwise you're not vernon maxwell never been arrested even though whatever rod strickland perfect fucking upstanding citizen so many duis so many duis so many problems punching women it's not good uh so that's why well maybe that's why he started with the dentures in case he gets a little carried away uh In case he misses the eye. Yeah. 2013, during the summer of 2013, this is actually a good thing, he earns a degree in sports leadership from Northeastern Illinois. What the fuck is sports leadership? Why is that a fucking degree?
Starting point is 02:05:37 Is that a specific degree in coaching? Sports leadership? I hate that as a degree. That's a fucking major? That's terrible. That's a major. I could see that as a class but as that's your major sports leader what are you gonna be a fucking pe what are you what are you doing how do you teach someone leadership yeah i get i guess you sort of can but that's kind of inherent isn't it yeah you gotta know that and have that i guess you
Starting point is 02:06:02 could learn skills it's like a talent you? Is there a juggling course? Yeah. Sports leadership with a minor in juggling. So I guess whatever. But that's him trying to show that he's serious about coaching. So he goes and gets a degree about coaching oriented here, which it makes sense. And it works from 2014 to 2017. He's hired as an assistant coach at the University of South Florida under another former Kentucky assistant.
Starting point is 02:06:46 So he went from opening a whole bunch of top-tier coaching jobs that he's in the front line for to being an assistant coach at the University of South Floridaida so things have gone fucking downhill for rod close to a beach the yeah that's the thing uh he does have four children at this point too i've meant failed to mention here he's got a wife named cheryl who is not the woman he punched earlier in the bronx uh four children torrentai terrell and tanner oh god rod four t's and one of them the boy i fucking i thought i had it Four children, Torin, Ty, Terrell, and Tanner. Oh, God, Rod. Four T's, and one of them, the boy, I thought I had it written down. Now I can't find it, is currently playing college basketball as well. Yeah, he's a good ball player. Good for him.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Not bad. So there's the kids. April 2017, he's trying to get another job. He's interviewing for the head coaching position at Florida A&M. So, yeah, they said that Strickland's one of 150 candidates who applied and that sort of shit. So he's got a long shot here. He said, I spoke to the administrators at Florida A&M, and I'm hoping they give me an offer and I have an opportunity to be a head coach. When you look at HBCUs big you never had super big recruits oh there we go but there's always a first time it would be an opportunity for me to come in and do
Starting point is 02:07:51 something different just like john calipari if i walk into that program and i turn it around i believe i would have the chance to do something special here yeah if i walk into a shit program and make it not as shitty yeah i think it's going to be special at that point. You think? Also, there's 149 other people up for this job, sir. Yeah. Calm down. Relax.
Starting point is 02:08:11 With your optimism. And he doesn't get that job. Of course not. But he is currently the program manager. I guess that's where your sports leadership degree comes in. The program manager of the NBA G League's professional path. Gatorade. So, so yeah so he's working for the nba in a low level tier i assume hopefully trying to work his way back up here and uh he's
Starting point is 02:08:34 gonna have to have a few years without a dui it's been a while for him sunk his career with dui oh yeah no he sunk everything yeah he would be a head coach by now if he wasn't like if people weren't like he could get arrested at any moment. Any moment. That's literally why he hasn't, because at any time he could get pulled over. There is nothing more embarrassing than a head coach getting a DUI. It is, because you're supposed to be. You're the model for this.
Starting point is 02:08:55 You're going to yell at your players if they do that. You're the guy that's telling these kids how to live their lives. We're out. We're going to drive it. What are you supposed to say? I don't want to hear you guys getting arrested two in the morning after the club well hey stupid hey tony larusso what do you think well he thinks he's a hall of fame baseball guy that's my favorite baseball guy i love that i'm one of them baseball fellers
Starting point is 02:09:19 so i did a baseballer i did a baseball thing so holy shit can't get enough of rod strickland well you can book him for something because he's awfully available let's talk about it cameo he's on cameo baby how much is it yeah that's the thing you can't it doesn't say it doesn't give a dollar value i don't know if he's not on all the time it says notify me when available is one of the buttons so apparently he's not available all the time and then uh yeah he says he's got 19 reviews all five star so they like him everybody loves him here i have a couple of the reviews uh here's five star uh quote thank you mr strickland my son was so happy with the video he's already outside practicing your moves in the driveway punching his sister in the face just gonna say there's
Starting point is 02:10:12 an unconscious tgi friday's waitress right next to my car i've never been more proud i've honestly never been proud thank you so much for the video my son is pummeling the shit out of his sister wonderful it is great he put a tgi friday's cruise shirt on her and he's just whooping her ass like a hockey fight that's great he just jammed 12 potato skins right up his sister's oh no it's not good but it's happening while he dangled his cock over he waggled it he did a waggle move i don't know why he's in the shot i didn't i told him to put clothes on. He's out there in a towel.
Starting point is 02:10:46 What do you want from me? Then he called me a bitch and told me to make him a drink. And I did. He got in his power wheels. He's swerving down the road. Oh, I see flashing lights. Oh, well. I got to go.
Starting point is 02:10:56 I got to go now. So here's another five star. Thanks, Rod, for making today perfect. Your encouraging words meant the world to me. God bless you and happy new year. That one's from January 1st, 2020. Love Tracy Murray. A month ago.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Yeah. Love Tracy Murray's girlfriend. You know that's who it is. Typically responds in four days. Good fuck. Jesus, Rod. Get off your ass, you drunk. Jesus, what the...
Starting point is 02:11:24 What are you waiting for right you don't have a phone on you to check on that shit man four days you need a set of appetizers to get your attention he's not saying anything profound no so for four you gotta wait four days for him to go hey this is rod strickland keep dribbling along and fucking don't get a dui and if you do never take a breathalyzer or take any shit from a TGI Friday's waitress good luck in your success drink it up drink it up uh also he is available through athletespeakers.com where you can get him uh here you can call it what 800-916-6008 to book Rod Strickland for a keynote speech virtual meetings corporate, corporate appearance, grand opening, product announcement, moderated Q&A for an exclusive meet and greet.
Starting point is 02:12:08 The booking agents and athlete speakers work on your behalf to get you the best price for your desired celebrity. Oh, baby. He's travel upon request. Fee range. Please contact. He's not going to put anything up front here. That speech must be the most depressive, right?
Starting point is 02:12:26 Hi, I'm Rod Strickland. How you doing? Hi. If you live like me. I could have had more, but I have less. That's basically what it is. I did good, but I could have done much better. Right.
Starting point is 02:12:36 But I'm an idiot. Me and Charles, same money. Same money. Same money. Except, yeah, no All-Star games and a lot more duis so that's me how's it going and then uh in the nba uh the video game 2k21 the 21 video game here it's got old players in it and rod is on the all-time wizards team really and he's an 87 overall that's great yeah they fucking gave him some stats they didn't look at his last couple of years. No.
Starting point is 02:13:05 I saw his thing. His inside shooting is shit, but his outside shooting and his playmaking is very good. So, yeah, Rod can throw down a little bit and play. So, there you go. Book him, play him. Just please don't give him any alcohol and the keys to a car or dispute his TGI Friday's bill because it might get ugly. So, that is Rod Strickland. And like I said, did you know anything about that? No.
Starting point is 02:13:29 Right? I mean, I thought it was so wholesome. Yeah. It looks wholesome. It looks great. Looks like a great guy. He's just pulled over all the time. Dick.
Starting point is 02:13:38 He needs to stay out of cars. Yeah. That's just his thing. Some people just shouldn't have cars. He needs a driver. He needs a driver. You made enough money to have a driver. That's a driver. You made enough money to have a driver. That's the thing.
Starting point is 02:13:47 You bought the car, get the driver. $40 million. But they want to drive. $40 million. Do you want to drive? You have the money. You buy the car. You want to drive.
Starting point is 02:13:55 I get it. That's what they want to do, people who have money and cars. $40 million, James. I'll forget how to drive. I don't even know. I won't want to drive. I'll never drive. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 02:14:03 Well, thank you. I noticed that as soon as Uber and rideshare apps came along all that you notice that curtailed his whole no more duis you see that so maybe that helped him i'm not sure maybe he also said if i get another dui i'll never get another fucking job how much lower can i go than university of south florida here like i'm a top tier guy and i'm down here in a third tier school right i'm gonna end up in you know some state community college pretty soon if i get any more 12 years in the nba so anyway that's rod strickland everybody enjoy that uh hope you enjoyed that if you did you can tell us and the world about it get on apple podcast tell us how you think about it give us five stars
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