Crime in Sports - #261 - Nobody Likes A Cody - The Insipidness of Cody Ledbetter

Episode Date: June 22, 2021

This week, we check out an under the radar story, of a not so successful athlete, who turned out to be a terrible person. He achieved great success in college, but pro success eluded him. No problem, he decided to coach, but that's all thrown of the rails by him, committing a most awful crime, getting a break from the law, then making it even worse. All of this, with a hugely shocking ending... Quite the mess! Have a pickup truck full of cheerleaders, set an NCAA record, then be a pariah from society while running from the law for your crimes with Cody Ledbetter! Check us out, every Tuesday! !We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurd  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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there at the upside down network that said let's get it on here though let's do it what we have here for crime and sports an interesting one here today jimmy the first of all the guy's name you just want to punch him right in the fucking mouth i don't know what it is about it his name is cody ledbetter oh which would like a yellow yeah yeah which would definitely get what would he'd be called bedwetter he'd be called i'm trying to think of what are the nicknames that people are going to give him uh bedwetters number one that's going to be number one yeah forever it's almost it's easier to say than lead better is the problem that's why it's a bedwetter it sounds it flows better than lead better so uh lead better is harder to say than red red leather yellow leather it's yeah lead better is like what an actor would say to

warm up backstage like better better better better better better better better better better fucking doing scales and shit his name is cody wayne led better oh boy cody and i understand if your name's cody you can't help it or whatever but uh Cody is maybe the most punchable name in the American lexicon if you say hi I'm Cody you have to dig out of a hole right away it's like oh I just want to punch you and I don't even know why you could be the greatest guy in the world Cody was the 80s Aiden yeah it really is that's a good way to put it it's the 80s aiden and cody is just it's just too i don't know what if someone says hi i'm cody you're just you're

clench your fist you know what i mean i don't know i know a lot of you cody you're all yeah you son of a bitch and he's like a blonde guy too he's a blonde cody like you can't you can't make this up so cody and devon hung out all the time yeah yeah not dev not devon with an o devon and i yeah yeah devon with an o doesn't want to hang out with cody shit no black guys named devon hate them so much yeah Yeah, yeah. What's up, Cody? Clenched fist. It is Devon. Say Devon again. I swear to Christ.

Yo, Cody, it's Devon, motherfucker. You're an asshole. So that's what we got going on. One of the most punchable names ever. So you would have to, you know, overcome this in some way, shape, or form. So he becomes a very good athlete that's how i guess he overcomes being called bedwetter and i assume at that point only the guys on your team are going to call you bedwetter then so and his mother had no idea how much of a douche he was giving birth to by naming him like that he could have been the greatest kid on earth

and with that name he's fucked from jump. That's no good. Yeah. Right away, you're like, oh, what did he do? When we announced Cody Ledbetter, people, no one knows who the fuck this guy is. Unless you're from Texas or small parts of Canada or New Mexico, you have no idea who this guy is. He's only known in three places. And you'd hear the name cody led better and

you just go i bet he did something that makes me want to punch him you just know it and he did too that's the other thing you'll want to punch him because lately we've been doing a lot of stories where i kind of feel bad for the guy you know what i'm saying like david thompson i feel i just it's just terrible like that guy should have been with idiot and asshole it's just been a bunch of idiots that are just detrimental to themselves there's very little victims in it they're not hurting other people for the most part besides some small incidents but like yeah the guy like david thompson you just go jesus christ the luck on a guy i mean but it's one of those things where it could happen to a lot of people.

Yeah. You know, think about that Studio 54 thing. How many fucking players of all sports go to clubs after the games and shit like that? How easily could that happen to literally anybody? In terms of business establishments, those are the places that you expect that shit to happen. At 4.15 in the morning, especially. And if your health depends, if your career depends on you being healthy in terms of muscles and bones and all, why would you even take the fucking chance? I can't imagine. I don't know what it is, especially when you can afford to go other places and party.

You can afford a nice hotel suite. You can afford to have it in your own house. Yeah, you can rent anbnb and fuck that up if you want a nice one who cares that the point is yeah don't go out to a club but i mean any anybody could have had something where and i i honestly believe david thompson and the bouncers are on david thompson and the other players yeah when they said he was there for one second and then this bouncer just came up behind him and jacked him. I believed that because the girl he was talking to was the bouncer's girlfriend. So I think he's a big shot.

He's a professional basketball player. He's tall. He's handsome. He's confident. He's walking up to her, and the bouncer didn't like it, and he came up and jacked him. And I think that could literally happen to fucking anybody and could injure them and ruin their entire destroy their career obviously he had destroyed it with drugs too yeah yeah he was well on his way but that could happen

to a UPS driver that's what I mean could happen to anybody so that that really that made me feel bad for him like all the drugs and all that if he cleaned himself up I'm like okay maybe he can make a comeback because his skills are still amazing and then you look at that and you go I didn't even get the chance because some some fucking jackass, you know,

bouncer threw him down a flight of steps and destroyed his knee. So this is a guy you don't feel bad for at all. So this is fun. We can just hate a guy for two hours. The other point is you feel bad for him because it's not necessarily just his own problems and his own doing,

but it's a man who has an ego that is terrified that somebody can quote unquote steal his girl yeah there's that too why don't you trust her to say no bro yeah i think maybe she was being receptive or whatever i mean he's a charming guy too everybody said it he was a charming fucking guy he came up he's probably friendly and you know nice smile and all that shit and she's probably just receptive also she worked there so what she's supposed to do kick him in the balls i mean maybe she was being doing her job and being friendly she was the coat check person so you know biggest

contract in nba history at that point that's a big deal it's a big deal so i don't know man i just look at it that way whereas this guy he can go fuck himself so let's see where cody is here he's born july 9th 1973 so he's not that old not that young he's just kind of a middle guy we've been dealing with a lot of older stories lately too this one's kind of more current as we'll find out okay um now he grows up in stevenville texas yeah all right now in in Texas, if you're not an American, because we do have a large part of our audience that's not from the States. And for you, I don't know if you know this or not, but sports and especially football in Texas is otherworldly popular. Oh, yeah. Like, I can't explain the level.

You know how much you like to, like, eat food or, like, breathe air? Yeah. Things like that. You know how much you like to eat food or breathe air? Yeah. Things like that. You know what I mean? That's how they feel about high school football. And I'm not kidding. And you can't say it's not true because there's 15,000 seat stadiums for high school football. Which is nuts.

That's nuts. That's not all the fucking family and friends there. which is nuts. That's not all the fucking family and friends there. That's people who have nothing to do with any of these kids are going there to watch children play football, which is a strange phenomenon. I don't know. I mean, it's in the culture,

so it's one of those things where it's just, I don't know, people, you know, it folds over generation to generation. They just do it. But it's just a strange thing to do, to look at from the outside. Like, I don't know australian listeners do you just go and observe people's kids play sports that you don't like have any

affiliation with they got fried a specific day of the week that everybody has collectively in your community announced as the day that you're gonna go watch uh the high school footy team are you gonna go do that it's wild is that a thing that happens there i don't know if it maybe it is i don't know now on the other hand too texas does have amazing uh football talent so i mean a lot of times these high schools actually are playing you know watchable games because it's a lot of great talent there but at the same time there's better talent on saturday and Sundays. It's just strange. It's just strange, especially when it's hot out.

But a lot of the heat, a lot of that great talent that you're watching on Saturday and Sunday started because of because they were encouraged so hard to give dad something to be proud of on Friday night. Yeah, that's that's the other thing there. You can be your name can be cody led better and you can still be a god if you're good at sports there so they don't care they don't give a shit yeah so uh he uh grows up in stevenville and i i don't know a whole lot about this guy's childhood i assume he you know played sports and ran around in the dirt and i don't know what the fuck he did you know what i'm saying he i picture him like growing up like a von eric that's for some reason i don't know why anytime i think of childhoods in he's he's in rural texas too yes is that where is that stevenville yeah i

don't know where the hell stevenville is it's out there i'm sure oh it's by i think it's no maybe not because he ends up later on he's he lives Paso, so maybe it's down in that quadrant. That's the only city near there. I mean, unless you're talking about Lubbock or Amarillo, a bit north of there, but there is nothing around El Paso, man. It is fucking bleak. No, no, it's desert. It's desert. It's desert and Mexico.

That's all that's there. Not a whole lot other than that. So he ends up, by the time he's a junior, he's the starting quarterback for the Stephenville Yellow Jackets. So there we go. He'll also do good things with track and shit like that we'll talk about, too. So I found a couple of articles in the newspaper from his junior and senior year in high school here. And one of them is apparently he was playing. He's playing both ways as a lot of if you're a dominant high school football player, they'll put you in.

Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. You're defensive lineman. You're a fullback. And then you're going to be the place kicker also. If you can do that, like they don't give a shit. You're playing every down if you can do that like they don't give a shit you're playing at every

down if they can get you to so there's they're talking about what a great uh game a quarterback that he had and then he also intercepted a pass and ran it back for a touchdown as well can you imagine oh the insult he's just doing wonderful cody doing that to you yeah i mean the guy just threw three touchdowns and then he just came in on on defense and picked off our the best person we have to throw the ball and he ripped that and ran that back yeah and if he didn't run it back he just stayed on the field and threw it in so either way we're fucked this kid sucks so that was the yellow jackets holding off the buckaroos 26-19. Yikes. Good for him. So I found some shit from his senior year,

and there's a big game against Burke Burnett, apparently. It's a huge deal. Burke Burnett is 10-3, and Stephenville is 12-1. It's December of his senior year, and they're really talking about it here. The Stephenville offense averaging 36 points a game at this point in time yeah it's uh it's scored 40 consecutive times once it reaches the 20 yard line of the opponent so 20 consecutive red zone scores

20 or 40 40 40 consecutive red zone scores which is silly that doesn't happen in the NFL or anywhere else on earth, really. Tom Brady doesn't do that. Fuck no. No, there's a fumble here and there. It's a seven-week span. So for seven weeks, every time they hit the 20, they're scoring something. That's incredible. A field goal.

Yeah. Ledbetter has completed in this whole time here 109 of 209 passes for 2272 yards and 23 touchdowns and only two interceptions wow so a bunch of incompletions but you can't you can't also put that on a high school quarterback because he's also throwing two children so you have to think about he's he's throwing to a sophomore who might not be the greatest wide receiver in the world i like he's got julio jones on the outside and he's just throwing it up for him you know He's throwing to a sophomore who might not be the greatest wide receiver in the world. Like he's got Julio Jones on the outside and he's just throwing it up for him. It's not Randy Moss over the middle.

No, he really doesn't. I don't know who the... It's a kid named Randy Treadway who also has a paper route. Well, he's got Jason Poston who's got 53 receptions and 1,198 yards. Not bad. Ledbetter's been targeting him. Also, Corey, Cody, what's the difference? Corey, Cody, same thing. Cody also ran for another 563 yards.

Oh, shit. Cody's a very mobile quarterback. That's the other thing. He's a very mobile guy. Later on, he'll say he doesn't like to be in the pocket, not a pocket passer. He's a guy who likes to freestyle a bit, get on the outside. That's great because the NFL was chomping at the bit for guys like him at this time. Well, no, no.

They are now. At the time, it was, ooh, he's not a pocket passer. Nobody wanted a guy who didn't stay in the pocket back then. No? No. In the 90s? Scrambling quarterbacks were great. Nobody wanted them. Who didn't stay in the pocket back then. No? No. In the 90s? Scrambling quarterbacks were great. Nobody wanted them.

Who the hell wanted them now? I don't know. The only guy who was like a starter was Randall Cunningham. The Falcons and the Steelers? You know? They picked them. Randall Cunningham you had for the Eagles there, and he was a freak of nature doing the shit he did.

Plus, he had a cannon for an arm, too. He wasn't one of these Tim Tebow who could run a little and then throw a wounded duck over the middle cunningham could throw the ball 80 fucking yards and then you know dodge tacklers like barry sanders he was a different case and cordell stewart it took them like five years to even let him be a quarterback he used to play quarterback then he'd be a fucking you know a tight end for three plays right they didn't nobody wanted a scrambler back then think about all this michael vick that was later though that look at us thousands just picking up all the all the black quarterbacks well i mean that's what it was then though yeah

that's that's the only ones athletic steve young though ran around a lot he did but he became when he was in the nfl he became a pocket passer yeah that's what they wanted him to do they there was all those guys. No, I would scramble, but Jesus Christ, I would be on the edge of my seat when he did it. He would do it when he needed to do it. But he was like Randall Cunningham. Randall Cunningham could throw from the pocket, but if it broke down, watch the fuck out, because he could do anything then.

Then you were in deep shit. It was almost better to just let him throw from the pocket. When Randall ran, though, you were like, oh, yeah, that guy can run. When John Elway ran, you were like, don't do that! But he was good at it. He looked terrible. He did, but he was still pretty fast, though. He's fast, yeah. He led the Yankees' farm system in stolen bases one summer. Really? Wow.

He's a fast guy, John Elway. That's stunning. He's huge. He's 6'4", 230 pounds. How fast do you want him to fucking be? I don't know. Maybe just look like you're good at it. Yeah, think it's also the in football we're trained to that number seven yeah the quarterback face mask there's quarterback pads none of it looks right running it's just not supposed to be running when he runs it's like oh jesus oh jesus he's gonna break something yeah something's about to break yeah it's true but no back then look at all the guys who won

super bowls it was uh troy acheman won a shitload of them jim kelly went to the super bowl every year these guys never they were statues you know what i mean that was yeah even like the drew bledsoes who got good at the end of the decade brett farve moved around a little bit but a little bit if you have an arm like brett farve yeah you can do whatever you want you know what i mean before that dan marino was a statue yeah he's got joe montana would he was good at like rolling out and shit but he's not gonna take off and run it no he's gonna throw don't worry yeah oh yeah you gotta get away from the guys that don't want him to that's what i'm saying so if you look at you look at that and then in the 2000s once vick came in yeah then people started looking at it like well you know what i mean that's that's actually a valuable weapon to have sure like everybody runs a 4-2-40 like he

did and a lefty that was incredible lefty it's so wild to watch him play and he had a cannon for an arm he's a freak of nature athletically and and just he's gifted you know that's it asshole but whatever well yeah great though great amazingly player amazing uh player so a good quarterback and just he's gifted. You know, that's it. Asshole, but whatever. Well, yeah. Great, though. Great. Amazing player. Amazing player. So, good quarterback. He even got really good.

He was even getting great at, because in college, a lot of these guys, especially if they're so good, they don't even have to read defenses. They're just, you know, my receiver's better. I'm, you know,

I'm going to throw over the top to him and fuck you. Just trust in the system. Yeah, whereas a lot of these, Vic started really getting into, You know, my receiver's better. I'm going to throw over the top to him and fuck you. Trust in the system. Yeah, whereas a lot of these, Vic started really getting into, he was getting good at reading defenses and shit too once he got to Philly and all that sort of thing and became a veteran and stopped trying to run all the time. But in the end, though, quarterbacks,

they're going to have to learn to be pocket passers eventually if they want to play past 30 years old because at some point you're not going to be running around and getting hit all the time it's just running and beating the shit out of yourself for not winning a super bowl it's it's not worth it it's not it'll shorten your career i mean tom brady tom brady runs like an 8 6 40 you know what i'm saying there's guys on his team that could probably beat him on their hands fucking 40 like so but he'll play till he's 50 because he's been tackled he's been hit three times in his whole career that's why you know what i mean he was injured for a whole season on

two of them and then fucking he doesn't take injured hits well he just stands in the pocket gets rid of the ball so that's the that's the longevity way to do it yeah but anyway back to cody who uh was doing this so uh on the team though they had a guy named mike frazier who is a nose guard who had 23 sacks that year holy shit yeah i'm like who the hell is this guy so i don't know what what he ended up doing but uh he was good in high school i'll tell you that much so uh then the game against them the the burke and burke burke burnett bulldogs jesus do they have to make it that hard to say all the bees all the goddamn bees stevenville came be uh fell behind 16 to nothing in the first quarter oh but then cody ledbetter leads them to 32 unanswered points oh yeah to beat the bulldogs 32 to 16 32 they're going they're going for two every goddamn play too every time i guess so touchdown or they get some feel probably i guess if you have this guy at your

quarterback why not just the other team did too they scored 16 unanswered and then they put up 32 that's just always going for two. Yeah, a tale of two games there, or a couple of field goals. Probably going for two, though. Yeah. Because a lot of times in high school, too, the kickers aren't worth shit. Yeah. Kickers are really hard to come by.

And if you've got a dominant-ass quarterback, you may as well give it a run. Well, if the guy's 50-50 on an extra point, you're at least that with him just trying to run it in. Fuck it. It's probably better. the odds are better so uh they ended up their first drive was a 12 12 play drive that's like a jesus christ like a bill parcells team drive just just where is anderson up the middle there he goes i want him huffing and puffing. That's it. This will wear them down. It'll control the clock. So they ended up, Ledbetter ended up having a touchdown pass, a touchdown run. He's killing it.

He's absolutely killing it. And then the next week, they ended up losing, though. So, yeah, they lost the next week to Wilmer Hutchins. I don't know fucking who they are. This is the Class 4A semifinal game. This is a state playoff. They lost 35-18, and Cody said, quote, I'm happy. I really am. Nobody ever thought we would get this far.

People wrote us off at the beginning of the year, and we ended up here, losing to Wilmer Hutchins. You get it. He said, quote, we did our best. I thought I had a good game, but we missed a few we could have hit. Those things happen. Not going to put any blame on anybody. Not anybody except for everybody else because I did what I was supposed to do. I thought I did.

He was 13 of 32, which is not good. Not good at all. That is like 40%. That's not very good at all. That's a lot of drops. I would say. 178 yards there. He only completed three passes in the whole second half.

Wow. And then said, I thought I had a good game. I don't know about that. Unless the receivers were really dropping shit that night. That's the only thing I can think. He did say, though, they're the best team we've played all year. Nobody's held us to less than 28 points. And they only got 27 in this game.

So they were a little disappointed there. Yeah. He said, quote, they're a great football team. They're clean. How does that mean? I don't know. They're clean. I was smelling asses out there.

And those guys were, I mean, zestfully clean. Like, they smelled good, actually. Not even, it wasn't even neutral. Like, I was actually like, hmm, what are you wearing? It could be in a commercial, those guys. Yeah, I was like, what are you guys wearing? I mean, we need to convert what we're doing over here. They're clean.

It's the winter or spring. I smell you. I smell you. He said, quote, they don't talk any lip or anything. They just play football. That's the way it's supposed to be played. Shut up, Cody. Yeah.

How many times over the course of this will we say, shut up cody yeah how many times over the course this will we say shut up cody shut up cody they didn't make us feel bad when we were losing they're a clean team they're clean they didn't talk any lip or nothing what are you in the 50s this is 19 fucking 90 he's saying this he said those words on december 16th 1990 they don't talk any lip or nothing what are you in the 50s this is 19 fucking 90 he's saying this he said those words on december 16th 1990 they don't talk any lip or nothing or anything i'm sorry they just play football that's the way it's supposed to be played all right sure thanks grandpa thanks grandpa cody well above his years well above his years yeah um so yeah, he was 121 of 224 for 2,888 yards and 33 touchdowns there.

So that's his season. He said that the second half was bad, and they were just rushing lots of people, and they were playing good man coverage against him, and that was that. So, yep, they lost the game. But Ledbetter's an all-state quarterback this year. So an all-state quarterback in Texas is like, I don't even know, that's like some kind of pageant queen in Beverly Hills or some hedge fund manager's kid in New York.

There's an avalanche of cheerleader puss thrown at him oh my god it's gotta be bananas the amount of beer yeah blonde girls that this guy is consumed by the age of 17 years old because he's only a scene he's only 17 when he's a senior here yeah the amount that's being ingested right now he's just taking his pickup truck that i don't know what he has, but I'm assuming he has a pickup truck. And it's just full of girls, I feel like. And he's just taking them around. Come on, ladies. And they're like, yay.

It's just a lot of giggling, like 50s giggling, I feel like. They're like, you don't talk any lip or nothing. And they just hop in the back. He's got a pickup bed and a cab full of blondes whether it's beer or women it's it's all blonde no shit he's just kicking out anybody who's not i'm that don't look natural not even no guinness please just the blondes just only blondes now he's uh and also he uh led the team obviously the semi-finals He was also a pole vaulting state champion. Really?

As well. He cleared 15 feet, 6 inches. That's all upper body, right? I don't fucking know what that is. That looks physically impossible. Like, it looks like something you would think of and be like, well, that would be silly. Kind of like when you see people with bicycles with wings and they're trying to fly it. And you go, well, obviously that's not going to work.

And they fall down a hill. That's what it looks like is going to happen. Like, whoop, and the guy's just going to fall backwards or the pole's going to snap. Snap, right. Impale him on the other side. That's what I see every time, especially even in the Olympics. But those poles are flimsy as fuck. They really have a lot of give.

They do. They really do. And then they just snap the dude over like a fucking catapult. It looks, I don't know who the fuck came up with that as an event. Whose idea was it? Like, what if we got a really long stick? Like a really long stick. Like, well, how long are we talking?

Really long. I'm like, taller than your house get that stick and we had a goddamn broom i'll tell you that yeah no a big stand then we had a guy fucking run with it and then he just sticks it in the ground and shoots himself over something why what's he shooting himself over it doesn't matter just a thing just a barrier of some kind what the hell is the difference it doesn't matter. Just a thing. Just a barrier of some kind. What the hell is the difference? It doesn't matter. Over a goddamn tree. Who gives a shit?

Yeah, I mean, I guess. Well, isn't the pole going to break? Hmm. Oh, boy. That is a tough one. The first ones had to be just stiff-ass sticks, right? Not like flimsy bamboo like they use or fiberglass or whatever the fuck that is? That's the thing.

I would assume that the quality that now, okay, I would assume it's like golf, okay? Because I don't want to take it. Because someone's going to be like, I pulled vaults in high school and you got to have, I understand. It's not something that if you just get a good stick, you can just do. Right. But it's kind of like golf where if you have two people that are really good at it, of equal measure, and someone's playing with equipment from 30 years ago and someone's playing with new equipment the new equipment guy's gonna win

even if they're not even just win it's gonna be a it's gonna be embarrassing you're not gonna get drive it 40 80 yards further over here they're gonna snap a guy i think maybe that's why paul vaulting keeps breaking records probably because they keep getting better sticks yeah i don't know just somebody tell us about those sticks. And what they jam the point of that stick into, there's a little wedge there where the stick stops. You got to assume that didn't exist when this shit started. You know what I mean? Probably not.

Somebody took their toe and went in the dirt and kicked some, you know what I mean? Just over time, enough guys jabbing their pole. It makes a little difference. And they're like, you just put it in your pole hole. That's right. You can see it. Be careful. The guy that went first always lost.

I'll tell you that. Oh, every goddamn time. Every single time. The guy that went last every time won. He was like, man, I really had some good grip on that pole. I don't know what to say about it. Unless they had to use the same pole. It might be weak by then.

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The other Aggies. Not the A&M ones. Not the Lobos. No, not the Lobos. New Mexico State. And here, I've got to turn the monitor. I cannot wait to see this shit. Here's your logo.

Oh, my. Oh, looks. Is that New Mexico or Texas? Jesus. state and here i gotta turn the monitor i cannot wait to see this shit here's your logo oh my oh is that new mexico or texas jesus well yeah he's got a little m on his jersey on his shirt there but it's a it looks like blackjack mulligan if you know old school wrestling he's like a very angry looking cowboy with a big old black mustache yeah and two guns a blazing absolutely and uh new mexico state aggies i don't know isn't an aggie some kind of uh it's an agricultural black mustache and two guns a blazing. Absolutely. And New Mexico State Aggies. I don't know. Isn't an Aggie some kind of- It's an agricultural.

Agricultural? Yeah. Why's it got guns? I'm going to shoot them plants if they don't grow right. He's loading his guns. What you doing there, pal? My crops ain't coming in quite right today. And he spins it and slaps it in there.

Eggplants lopsided. quite right today and he spins it and slaps it in there eggplants lopsided i'm gonna go talk to him you're gonna go have a chat with them pumpkins that's called new mexico farming yeah that's not real round today that's gonna have to talk with them tell them to straighten themselves out chit chat with the pumpkins oh christ man i'm fucking telling you this that's that's how we do it here in new mexico that's how we that's how we farm you got to farm at the tip of a gun see that's the only way to do it gun barrel farming we call it here in new mexico cabbage comes in a lot better under duress

that's that's what i said we got carrots the size it's like you could pole vault with these things are so goddamn big i'll tell you what they're long that's how it's just from a little now you get your asses up here and grow now and they do it they know how do you get your asses up here and grow now, and they do it. They know. How did you get your carrots so long? You ever heard of a.357? We got carrots down here. We call them Smith and Wessons. i think you're gonna win the state record for biggest for biggest biggest arugula bushel this year do you so if you want son you can pole vault holy shit i got a cult 45 here says differently bang click

holy fuck i don't get it i don't understand why an aggie's got weapons that's crazy shit out of me he's very angry too he's not even like happy no you motherfucker he's going after somebody or vegetables very angry it hurts it's so funny that's how you do it so yeah he's gonna be paul vaulting carrots and uh he he goes to new mexico state yeah under coach jim hess who i assume is a shitty coach because their record is two and nine his first year there in 1991. There's got to be another Coach Hess because I swear I've heard that. There's other Hesses, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

There's Hesses. There's coaches, Nazis. There's lots of Hesses. There's a gas station chain in New York. The owners of the Jets used to be Hesses. There's a lot of Hesses. Yeah. Hesses.

There was a Hess. Yeah. All right. It's a lot of everybody. Hey, by the by the way everybody some of these are just for us uh some of these episodes we mean and this might be one of them so i don't know you don't like it having a good time yeah there you go don't worry there'll be barrel strawberry or somebody coming up pretty soon but for right now fuck c, and we're going to have fun here. Got your number, Cody. 91, New Mexico State, 2-9. And I looked on their roster to see if, oh, they had a guy who ended up.

Nobody ever in the NFL on this team. It's just a bunch of guys selling cars now or doing whatever. I don't know what they're doing. It's something. Insurance, whatever. Yeah, Cody is on this team. He apparently plays in six games, but doesn't. These are like, it seems like mop-up duty.

And they're getting the shit kicked out of them because they're 2-9. Yeah. Because he's 19 of 39 for 224 yards. One touchdown, four interceptions. Oh, no. Which is more than he threw in all of high school senior year. So that's not great in 39 attempts. Bad stuff there.

But his rating is 84.9. That's how useless a quarterback rating is. That sounds decent, but then you look at it and you go, oh, that's not good. Yeah, I don't want him playing for my team. That's pretty lousy. 92, New Mexico State. I think he's injured or something. He's not there the whole year.

He has no stats this year. It's like he's off the team, but he's still on the team. He's on the roster with no stats, so I think he was probably injured and put on the crops. Yeah, well, that was the thing. Part of being on New Mexico State is it's a random drawing but at the beginning of every year during during uh training camp that you pull straws and if you're the guy that you're the you're sorry you got to go threaten the crops now that's part of it you miss a year you miss a year sometimes that's it they say you're you know you're you're uh position on the team will be here when you get back and it's like going it's like getting drafted to war

yeah it's not like you're gonna lose your job you're going to fight hitler obviously kick the shit out of the beats yeah that's it you go you go tell the green beans to come in better and make sure that they're in bigger bushels and then we'll see what your position is next year based on your crops we'll come back based well that's part of it it's your productivity as a player yeah your arm your understanding of the offense you know what the coaches think of you your esteem with teammates and how well you are with the crops i mean let's be honest here let's see your carrots you want to start on this team let's see your carrots pal hey you got

cut uh this is uh carrots are pretty short yeah i mean i don't know i think maybe sec those are some second string carrots there son yeah 93 he's back on the team here and it looks like uh he's gonna start he's gonna start here from now on on and become a pretty good success with New Mexico State. Not the team, but him personally. Sure. The team's five and six in 93, though. So that's something. Five and six is some shit here.

And Cody, this is how the newspaper put it. Quote, Cody Ledbetter remembers the date distinctly. November 20th, 1993. Quote, I don't think I'll ever forget that date. Oh boy. We were three points and about three minutes from getting a conference ring. National TV exposure

on ESPN, playing in a bowl game and possibly a bowl ring. They were playing against Utah State and they ended up losing. Oh no. They lost 20-17 from the Big West Conference Championship which kept them out of the And they ended up losing. Oh, no. Yeah, they lost 20-17. Yeah, from the Big West Conference Championship, which kept them out of the all-prestigious Las Vegas Bowl,

which is obviously one of your big ones. Yeah. Clearly. So he says that he uses that date and that loss to always keep things in perspective from then on in the future. That's right. He's like, man, I'm telling you, it's happening for him here. So the next year, or I'm sorry, that year, he was in 11 games. He was 158 for 300, so I think he's a starter then definitely in attempts.

2,177 yards, 13 touchdown touchdowns 13 interceptions so i mean throwing some points on the board and giving some away but 13 and 13 they're playing they're nfl players that do that too yeah and again we don't know what kind of receivers he's got too we don't know if there's a lot of tipped balls guys you know tip ball goes up in the air bad route runs anything yeah yeah yeah those are dependent on each other those that relationship the quarterback sucks without good receivers receivers suck without a good quarterback sure so 94 new mexico state they go three and eight that year again so this jim hess does not have a wonderful record and there are some games where they just get the absolute piss pounded out of them too

that's that's that's one of these things in college man when you have teams that are like national powerhouse and they play a team who's pretty mediocre in their conference you can get some really lopsided fucking games and that happened that happened here uh with them a few times they had a game where was it there's one game they lost like christ they lost like by 60 points or some shit to some it was some embarrassing fucking amount there's a game that they're playing florida yeah and it's just like they're talking about how bad they're gonna get beat basically they already know it yeah they said that ledbetter though uh ended up

uh uh connecting on three first half touchdowns to to quote keep the score somewhat respectable they didn't score 21 in the first half to not look like complete fucking assholes you know we kept it somewhat respectable didn't look like we didn't show up or anything so uh Somewhat respectable. Didn't look like we didn't show up or anything. So that's hilarious, man. Cody, I want to call him Corey. Cody said, quote, he's a great receiver.

He's one of those guys that nobody wanted him. And then he comes out here and he's making a career for himself and a name for himself. He's got great hands, real good speed, and he goes and gets the ball. Okay. That's terrific there. So good for him. Nobody wanted him, this guy, though. He's a piece of shit. We took him in, and we did.

Took a chance. It's kind of paying off. Took a chance on the guy. So 94, he starts in 11 games. He's 120 for 247. So that's under 49% completion rate, which is not what you're looking for in a college quarterback for like the nfl anyway uh 11 touchdowns only six picks this year though so okay still it's just not spectacular he's not setting anything on fire here but uh 95 he uh he 95 they come around oh here's some big losses that they that they had 95 they had, let's see, I don't know if this is 94 or 95,

but they lost to Florida 70-21. That was that Florida game. Oh, my God. Where they kept the score, quote, somewhat respectable. 70-21 is considered respectable. And they put up all those points in the first half. The second half, they got blown out. Terribly.

Jesus Christ. in the first half the second half they got blown out by terribly yeah jesus christ and then uh number nine arizona the wildcats beat them 44 to nothing as well so here's a picture of him in the paper from that point which is well he looks like a blonde yeah he looks like sylvester stallone in tango and cash that's what he looks like doesn't he with the round glasses but round glasses square fucking head he's a blockhead yeah great hair yeah yeah he's blonde though yeah you know so if he was if he had dark hair he'd look like sylvester stallone in tango and cash exactly he's got a tie on this is like his senior picture of course clearly he looks very serious right looks like it looks like his picture for a law firm for the website. This man will sue a doctor who accidentally took out your pancreas like that's the guy. Hire my sexy ass to sue the doctor that left a sponge in you.

There you go. He says, what's he talking about? Some game here. He says, quote, I think this can go one of two ways. One, we can feel like we did some decent things against two of the best teams in the nation. So let's use this as a building block. Or two, we can say we got the crap kicked out of us and we're not any good. So that's what he said there.

He was like, you know, either way, though, you can look at it one of two ways. He says, though, that there's a game against UTEP that's very important and uh all this shit he said that uh quote UTEP scares me scares the hell out of me I know they're a good football team but first of all we've lost five straight games dating back to last year once you get that first win you stop second guessing yourself and wondering if you can if you can win so they're they're really haven't won a single game doing bad shit they haven't won shit and uh led better he's got some injuries so far here i guess he hurt his uh he hurt his hand on a on a florida player's helmet yeah in the season opener which is not going to help any if while

they're kicking the shit out of you he says it's just a nagging thing every snap every time your hand you hand off it gets banged it's like when you bite thing. Every snap, every time you hand off, it gets banged. It's like when you bite your tongue, then you do it over and over and over again. Just irritating. But I'll play with it. Have to. Ain't going to sit out. Not for a finger.

Irritating to bite your tongue over and over and over. I'd shoot myself in the fucking face. You know when you bite your tongue, you get that little, god damn it, I keep nicking your cheek even worse. That's not annoying. That's fucking annoying that's fuck yeah that's hell on earth ain't gonna sit out jimmy not for a fanger fuck you i'll quit everything ain't gonna sit out not for a fanger the carrots don't get a day off because they're they're

hurting them carrots if they're gonna be poe vaulting carrots they gotta work every day so i wonder if that was his trigger finger that he hurt i wonder if that's what it was his uh crop threatening finger yeah that's what it is but ain't gonna sit out not for a finger that's the type of guy later on you'll have wished that they took all his fingers let's just put it that way so uh you'll go man if only he didn't have fingers, this would be a lot better. When he got there, he was only 17 years old, by the way, when he got to New Mexico State. Yeah, he was young. He was where his birthday fell, I guess, here. He said that he remembers his first game against UTEP, and he said, quote, it was my first game, the place was packed, and it was our

whole season. I didn't get to play in that one. I didn't come in until later when we were playing at Oregon. There was probably like 60,000 people there. But a big crowd like that kind of turns me on. What? I want to go out and prove myself. And 30,000 or 40,000 in our little stadium seem big here. Kind of turns me on, Jimmy. All those people out there watching me it just makes me i'm like

what if i just i bet if i just took my cock out right now they'd all see it even if they didn't want to they'd have to because i'm in the middle of all of them i'll be honest with you guys it's fucking hot to think about i mean it's it's hot out here is what i'm getting at um we're playing texas el paso and a lot of people. Turns me on, Jimmy. So 1995 Aggies, they go four and seven. Woo-hoo. Four and seven, that's something. So Jim Hess, still the coach.

Apparently they don't expect better than this. They don't expect 500 out of this guy. That's what it is. They're just like, I mean, fuck it. We're New Mexico State. You think we can get any better than Hess? That's what it is. They're just like, I mean, fuck it. We're New Mexico State. You think we can get any better than Hess? That's it. And they're in the rankings of 108 Division I teams. They're 70th of 108, so that's not good.

The beginning of the season, though, September 5, 1995, Cody Ledbetter is the Big West Conference Player of the Week, their Offensive Player of the Week. the big west conference player of the week their offensive player of the week he uh he completed 16 to 27 passes for 269 yards and four touchdowns and a rushing touchdown as well in a 45 to 17 victory over utep for the opener so okay they won he's they won and this year cody has a killer year here he's uh he uh is number seven career in uh passing touchdowns in the whole big west conference really he's so that's from 1969 on he's uh he has 55 of those this year he also leads in the entire ncaa the nation in interceptions where he throws 20 he absolutely does i'm so excited to hear what he let in that well he also leads in total plays

he runs the most total plays in the entire ncaa with 543 and uh he also is number one in total yards as well in the entire ncaa well I guess you are going to lead in interceptions, probably, if you're running most plays. That's the thing. The odds of you doing it. You're throwing that many passes. Well, think about this. I'll give you his line here. 11 games, 259 for 453, 57.2% completion percentage, which is pretty good.

That's not bad. 3,501 yards. These are like mediocre know mediocre nfl numbers but he only played in 11 games so it's not 16 and then at the same time 30 touchdowns and 20 picks it's not so there he's hurling the ball around a lot i mean that's that's just that so i mean he also yeah 3724 total yards for for cody leading the entire ncaa in that makes you wonder how many fucking running plays did they play if he's throwing the ball that goddamn much not a lot i think their offense was just uh i think it was one of those he moves around he decides whether

he's going to bomb it or run for it type of thing because he has 250 rushing yards as well it's a real boise state uh kind of football yeah there's a real Boise State kind of football. Yeah, there's a college where you get all those gimmicky schemes that win. It depends on the players you get. If you've got a bunch of fast receivers, well, fuck it. Your new scheme is they run out and you drop it over the top to them. If you've got a bunch of, you know, it depends. So he ended up setting the school records for most passing yards most passing attempts most passing completions and most passing touchdowns i would venture to say probably also

set the school record for most interceptions as well because he has 43 total in his career at new mexico state 55 touchdowns though but 43 picks it's a lot of picks sure but still though he's doing wonderfully you got it most total yards in all of college football grace that's right gotta be we're gonna that has to be grace it's a record at that point yeah it's a record for christ's sake what do you want we've never heard of him so you know he doesn't have a super bowl ring no well i mean he could there's guys you know that's a great point there are so many quarterbacks that have rings that you don't know the fuck they are yeah you're like that guy has a ring what yes he does wow i didn't know that holy shit that's wild happens all the time so uh anyway after grace here comes the 95 nfl draft

here oh baby we've talked about this one before. Do you remember? Number one overall pick, 95, Jimmy. Raghu Bishmail? Is that too late? That's late. No. Kajana Carter.

Holy shit, really? The Bengal running back here out of Penn State who was injured, and I think he blew his knee out in the first preseason game that he played in for the Bengals. He never did anything, really. He played football, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. He ended up staying. But he was, I want to say, first quarter of the first preseason game with the Bengals after his number one overall.

He blew out his knee. Like, destroyed it. Poor bastard. And was never the same guy. Tony Buscelli, number two. Steve McNair, number three. Oh, my. Steve McNair. Kerry Collins in there kevin car and steve mcnair was one of those guys like we were talking about

who could move around but i mean fuck could he throw the shit out of the ball too and he was a real smart guy too but there was a lot of people not knowing whether to take him or not because he's from a division two school and they throw the ball all around and he worked out pretty goddamn well i would say yeah um yeah we got michael westbrook carrie collins uh mike mamoula uh warren sap here number 12 overall that was when he dropped to number 12 because there was uh somebody put out quote drug rumors about him so there's a whole documentary about the draft the 95 draft uh yeah you can find it on youtube it's called i think caught in the draft is what it's called or something and the big storyline is warren sapp was supposed to be like maybe a top three pick and he just dropped yeah because and you could just see him sitting there pissed off like every pick he'd be like man this is bullshit like fucking god damn it he was all bad 11 not even top 10 yeah no 12 he went wow number 12 to uh

tampa bay and he was pissed because he was from tampa and he hated the bucks he's like they're the sorriest fuck hate this town i started nfl sorriest fucking team started football till i get the fuck out of here. God damn it. Here I am right back. Hugh Douglas, Ty Law, Corey Stringer, who he died, didn't he? Corey Stringer? He's the guy who dropped dead for the Vikings.

Vikings offensive tackle. Oh, shit. Dropped dead in like a summer workout or some shit. In practice. Derek Brooks, number 28. Okay. The Bucs got Derek Brooks and Warren Sapp in the same round wow hall of fame hall of fame uh sick one round of one draft uh so it goes all the way through all seven rounds and cody is not selected in the nfl draft at all so he's very disappointed

they took carrie collins ouch fuck high up too um. So he's got his fingers crossed for the CFL draft. Maybe the Canadians will take him. Who knows? And he doesn't get drafted there either. Oh, my God. That's not a long draft, though. But still, he was hoping to be taken by, by the way, this is fucking hilarious. The CFL at this moment in time in this season here

is broken into two divisions there's the north division in the south division and the north division has three more teams in it than the south division and has which is very strange arrangement and i'm like how is that then i see how the north and south are broken up the north are canadian teams and the south division are american teams so that's how that works calgary edmonton eskimos who just changed their name i think didn't i would hope so uh bc lions hamilton tiger cats winnipeg blue bombers saskatchewan rough riders of course yeah toronto argonauts and the ottawa rough riders of course the only difference is saskatchewan Rough Riders, of course, Toronto Argonauts, and the Ottawa Rough Riders. Of course. Everything's a Rough Rider.

Saskatchewan Rough Rider is one word. Ottawa, it's two words. So obviously much different. Imagine trying to deal with that trademark. South Division is the Baltimore Stallions, the San Antonio Texans, the Birmingham Barracudas, the Memphis Mad Dogs, and the Shreveport Pirates. Boy, oh boy. There's always an off.

The WFL had a Shreveport team. So strange. Anyway, 1996, he's CFL here. He goes, apparently there are different, he doesn't get drafted drafted so he's got to kind of bounce around and he ends up signing on with the Edmonton Eskimos so he does that there's a big article about him

in his rookie year it's his first preseason game and he was saying how you know it's a lot different and the coaches said though he did a really good job know it's a lot different and uh the coaches said though he did a really good job he played about a quarter and a half and uh the only thing he said though is quote i wouldn't consider myself a pocket passer i appreciated them allowing me to roll out and

get it out in the open and show a little bit of what i can do during the game i still need to sit in the pocket some and learn the reads and go through the defense but anytime i can run around and try to make a big play or hit a guy while i'm running then it's a bigger chance for a big play okay big big big big and at the same time it's also a bigger chance for an interception that's why they don't like you to do that right you know very few guys are aaron rogers who can just get outside the pocket and freestyle and just fucking you know not throw 30 interceptions a season doesn't happen a lot and even with that he can stretch the field and somehow still put it in somebody's hands that's

on his team 80 yards down the field that's crazy there's not a whole lot of guys in the history of football that could do that you know so it's uh across the body it's it's nuts like if he rolls out to one direction he still has the whole field he can play with. Whereas that's dangerous with any other quarterback. There's an old Brett Favre play against the Lions. It's on YouTube. It's a very famous play where he rolls out completely over to his left, of nowhere to the complete other side of the field and hits a guy in the other back corner of the end zone. Unbelievable. In the complete other corner of the field.

The guy's heels are like against the back line, just catches the ball like it's a punt return and falls out of bounds. It's the fucking, and it's like a 60-yard throw. Or like a 50-yard. So he's at like the 50 and he throws it like 50 yards and then another you know 30 across the field too it's and across and not you know not unnaturally to the other side it's the weirdest most freak of nature backward it's all nuts it's the most freak of nature throw you'll ever see where you're like holy shit that fucking what the hell is up with that and commentators that are watching it go he's throwing to the other this is going to be bad

and it ends up with a you you your mind is blown it doesn't make sense it defies all laws of football well and the guy in the end zone was wide open because they had stopped guarding him sure because he's out of the fucking play your quarterback's all the way on the other side of the field 50 yards up that guy's out of the fucking he might as well be all the way on the other side of the field, 50 yards up. That guy's out of the fucking, he might as well be in the stands. Who cares? And he's just, he was the only one waiting for touchdown. He may as well be in his car, for Christ's sake. Yeah, that's how far out of the play he is.

The coaches said, quote, we wanted to see him get out and run around about Ledbetter. We wanted to see him cause things to happen, and that's why we gave him a lot of options, a lot of rolls and runs and stuff. That's the way we were told he plays. Did watch film haven't you heard of him you're his coach right that's the way we heard a few things about him what are you talking about heard he's put a helmet on before that's crazy yeah the way that's an interesting thing he's played football he said we kind of held him under reins in training camp having him throw from the pocket because sooner or later you have to learn that.

But we knew as soon as we got to a game situation, he was going to get out and run, and he did a good job running. And he said that he was frustrated by all that, and I gave you his quote that he said about that. And he said, I wasn't trying to force anything. Coach is always telling me about being second and four. If I can run the ball to get where we're at second and short, that's what I want to try to do. I could have thrown the ball a couple of times when I ran it, but the big thing for me is I didn't turn the ball over. I threw out of bounds. I made a bad read on the first play I had. I probably could have hit CJ Davis for a touchdown, and I threw it up the middle and set it to the

outside. But other than that, I was real happy with the way I threw the ball. So there you go. He said he's doing well and he doesn't want to slide. They said he doesn't slide. He likes to get tackled. And he said, that's what happens when I play hard. I get tackled. He's just tough.

He said, so he needs to get in better condition, though, he does. So Edmonton Eskimos, they go 11 and seven that year. 18, 18, whatever the fuck games they play. They go all the way to the Gray Cup. Oh, like their Super Bowl. Yeah. It's just a cup full of poutine and packed with it. And fries hanging out the sides, all the sides enough for the whole team it's

pretty amazing and it's uh they lose the gray cup though but that's all right he has he's 25 of 67 for throwing which is terrible uh 37 not good at all three touchdowns one pick but he doesn't play that much so um at the end of 96 edmonton ends up letting him go and he ends up not signing on with anybody in 97 he yeah he basically uh as the edmonton trades him for like a sixth round draft pick and then the and then they end they end up cutting him the team they trade him to so nobody wants him so 98 he ends up i saw he had a tryout with the winnipeg blue bombers he was with them for a while right and then uh he ends up on these on the hamilton tiger cats okay that's a squad here that's a football team that's a

football team the hamilton tiger cats okay it sounds like a high school football it does but it's a football team and even the logo look at the logo jimmy that's not a professional logo looks like a fucking swim team logo what is that yeah a high school swim team logo tiger cat tiger like what as opposed to the tiger dogs what are you talking about tiger cats so what a tiger cat what are we doing the tiger cats are 12 5 and 1 that year and uh they uh they go to the playoffs here and they go all the way to the gray cup as well really they go to the super bowl too so this is crazy all the way to the gray cup and they lose that also so cody's a good luck charm sure he doesn't have to play he's a good luck charm here he's 18 of 33 on the holes on

the season for throwing which is for passing which is better than it was last year. One touchdown and three interceptions, which is not as great. That's a flip-flop the last time. So 1999, Hamilton again, and they go 11-7 this year. Again, he's the backup. He only has 20 pass attempts this whole season. So they go this time, and they go all the way to the Grey Cup again. My God.

I mean, obviously the chances are a lot better when there's like 12 teams that you'll make it to the Super Bowl. But at the same time, every goddamn team he's on goes all the way to the Grey Cup. He's undefeated in terms of getting there. That's unbelievable. Not bad. Yeah, he's a good luck charm. And this time they win the Grey Cup. What?

So he is a champion. He's a champion. He's got a whatever the Canadian, I don't know if they give you a ring up there. It's a Canadian Super Bowl ring. Yeah, they give you a ring or like an inscribed hockey puck or something. I'm not sure what you get up there. What do you think you get? For football, you win your football league and they give you a hockey puck.

They give you a hockey puck and like a fur hat. There you go. Keep warm and play hockey. Okay. And they send you on your way. They give you a trophy of fucking Wayne Gretzky. That's it. That's another thing.

You get a framed portrait of Wayne Gretzky. That's it. That's another thing. You get a framed portrait of Wayne Gretzky. It's not even a picture. It's an artist rendering his hair. His hair is flowing in the Canadian wind beautifully. You get that. It's very nice. A gift card to Tim Hortons. Oh, and you get to take one fry out of the poutine cup as well.

That's the other thing. They give you that, too. I didn't realize. A bunch of hockey pads and ice time. Maybe you win ice time. Maybe you should probably take up hockey. Yeah. And like three beaver pelts for some reason.

Just pelts. and you're like okay i guess i can sell these to a trader or trapper or some guy okay someone back east will want these wares i want that to be real i want whatever they win whatever the trophy is for football just to be a hockey garb as far as a wheelbarrow full of Canadian stereotypes. Is that it? That's the only thing. And hockey shit. And you get to kick Dave Coulier in the nuts. That's part of it, too.

He's not Canadian. He's from Detroit, but that's very close to Canada. Close enough, right. Yeah. I don't know why I brought him up, but still. He slept with a Canadian. That's what I think it is. It's the Alanis Morissette connection. And he looks like he could be Canadian.

He's got that mullet, that persistent mullet. People in Detroit, it's close enough. You may as well be Canadian. It's very close. Just a very different attitude from Detroit to Canada. That's a good point, yeah. That water, I don't know what happens, but it's kind of like when you go through the water

and a dog can't smell you anymore. Someone's trying to track you. I feel like whatever that is, it goes both ways. Washes the Canada off you, takes the Detroit right out of you. I don't know what it is. It's called lead, James. That too. That too.

So yeah, this year though, so they win the Grey Cup. He gets to eat the poutine fries. Fantastic. And they go, what is this here? He goes eight for 20 in pass attempts for 105 yards, five touchdowns. I'm sorry, one touchdown, zero interceptions. So basically just not a factor at all. He probably came in a game when they were winning by a lot or losing by a lot.

2000, the old Tiger Cats here, they go nine and nine oh you're not they're back down again look at this back to 500 uh they do go to the postseason because there's not enough teams to have a fucking postseason unless basically everybody goes to the postseason so it's hard to have a tournament when you have four teams it's pretty much just a final four so they lose though in the first round and that's it for them uh but he on the other hand 20 of 40 this year 40 pass attempts oh boy it's the most since his rookie year he gets 40 pass attempts uh one touchdown three picks so he is loose with that ball. He likes to, he runs around and lets it go to the detriment of everybody.

2001 Tiger Cats, so he's on the team for a few years here. They go 11-7. They go to the playoffs again, and they lose in the second round of the playoffs. They win a game, and they lose a game. He did have 48 pass attempts this year, of which he completed 23 of them for 303 yards one touchdown three interceptions so his career here in canada

here that's the last he'll play in canada and his career is 94 complete completions for 208 attempts uh 1244 yards seven touchdowns 10 picks same as high school see you're not exactly a minus the touchdowns anyway yeah or minus all the picks uh so not exactly a hall of fame career here he started a grand total of two games in his entire uh career of uh one in his rookie year one in his last year. So that's that. And it's funny because Edmonton started him one game, and then they let him go there.

And then Hamilton had him for three years. He never started a game, but they kept him on the roster. He'd come in. He started one game the last year, and then they're like, we can get rid of him. Like, we can't have him starting. Never mind. That's too much.

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it is time to go back home to get an assistant coaching job at the old high school so comes home a hero oh yeah i played and i mean for the kids he played in the canadian league professional pro is pro yeah someone signed his check to play football he got paid to play football that's true yeah he comes in in a different like hamilton tiger cat shirt on every day it's just all merch they gave him they just gave this shit to us guys i got this and uh here's my hockey puck and my pads for when we won the gray cup look Look at this Bob Probert jersey. Yeah. It's like a Super Bowl champ would show the kids the ring for inspiration.

He comes in with the puck, and he's like, look at this puck. Look at it. It's real. It's real. He comes in with his portrait of Wayne Gretzky. Look at this. Rendering of the great one. Dream big, and you can have this hanging in your house, too.

We all have to share it. We pass it around like the Stanley Cup, obviously. But I got it this week. Pretty impressive. I hang it in my one bedroom apartment. So he coaches at Al. It's spelled Alvarado. Alvarado.

But it's said, apparently, according to this Alvarado. Alvarado. Zassert. He moves to Alvarado but it's said apparently according to this Alvarado he moves to Alvarado first he came and he moved to El Paso first so he's staying in El Paso then he moves to Alvarado with the head coach of the football team there the Alvarado football

Alvarado high school football team so he moves with him to uh coach there so he's assistant coaching the alvarado high football team alvarado high so yeah 10 years ago he is the star high school quarterback blonde kid named cody with cheerleaders falling out of his truck like poutine fries out of the gray cup just hanging out yeah think about this and then he goes he's the ncaa leader in total yards yeah and he starts two games in six years and uh moves back to fucking small town texas to coach damn it so yeah no i don't think it's exactly not there's anything wrong with small town football coaching but i don't think it's exactly how he expected this

to work and you know it's okay to return back home to to be an assistant coach somewhere after you've got a boatload and pocket full of cash like mike bibby coaches the the basketball team the high school team here and yeah yeah but the difference is he made like $119 million. That's the thing. Yeah, he doesn't need the money, so he's giving back. That's actually a nice thing to do. This is he needs a job. Right.

And he knows shit about football. Yeah, and he knows stuff about football. So he's going to go for this job is what he's going to do. So that's 2003, and so he coaches, I don't think he's there the entire 2003 season, but he's there for a part of it. And then 2004 starts here, March of 2004. Well, I know he was there from November, at least from November to January. He was there a portion of the season. At least I'm positive he was there for those three months.

And there's a reason why I'm positive of that. And that's affidavits in court documents. Oh, no. That well, that caused him to be arrested on. This is a everyone's like, where's the crime? Oh, here's some crime. March 3rd,rd 2004 he is arrested uh he had taken a few days of personal leave off of work uh to get his emergency teacher

certification i don't know if that's to for like emergencies emergency situations like yeah emergency it's not like i we need a teacher right now sir to put the fucking stamp on these cows shit they're running all over the place god damn it put a goddamn stamp on get him in he's running there with a certificate hold on guys hey everybody's certified i can be an emergency teacher starts turning the lights on and off real quick come on kids click click click let's go oh shit oh teacher's back my name mrbetter, but y'all can call me Cody. Shut up, Cody. Y'all want to see my carrots?

I mean, shit. That didn't sound right. So he is arrested, though, and he is charged with having sexual contact with a female high school student. Oh, he's not allowed to do that anymore, and he forgot. He forgot. Oh, no. I had a dozen of them in the back of my truck. with a female high school student oh he's not allowed to do that anymore and he forgot he forgot i had a dozen of them in the back of my truck i've been fucking i'm i've been here y'all don't know oh that was 10 years ago shit you're right you're right my my bad i didn't that was a lot of shit that was 15 years ago damn it that was a long time ago i didn't realize oh jesus christ he's booked into

the erath county jail and later released on a fifty thousand dollars bail he faces a charge of indecency with a child which is a second degree felony let's go ahead and let that guy bail out yeah let's we'll amend those charges uh yeah because they're saying well i mean it's not like he he didn't push himself on her i mean he was just he was just having some some good loving and uh turns out you know his pecker got a little ambitious for the uh birthday to the young lady that's all which is more uh that's what they would say that's texas style which is more of a threat to society a man who is in a position of trust and fucks a kid or a guy that grooms one and then fucks a kid which one is the worst guy well yeah at least you can keep hopefully you can keep a kid away from the groomer but i don't know about the uh the guy

at the school is the thing pick a boys and wolf and sheep's clothing is fucking horrifying and think about it he's a he's the the assistant football coach right where are girls around that excellent point it's not like it's a like there's girls on the team and he's like you know that's where he runs into texastown no he's like he's like fucking coaching and then like like trolling for chicks afterwards like i'm gonna go see if the field hockey team's done playing and done practicing like what the fuck are you doing are the girls that the cheerleader are they practicing while they're practicing you know what i mean and he's just like i mean i don't think in the same place probably no i think the

cheerleaders practice in a gym i think based on Based on seeing Bring It On for PSA Hate This Movie, based on the footage there, I believe the cheerleaders are in the gym working on that shit. Based on Grease, I think. Based on Grease. Didn't they? At the same time. Didn't they do it outside? Yeah.

That's all outdoors there. Yeah, they did do it outdoors. I don't know if they had access to a gym. Yeah. But yeah, based on both. So we don't know, honestly. We have no goddamn idea is what i'm saying here so he's arrested um it came after a week-long investigation by sheriff bob

alford all right he's of the sheriff's department there he wouldn't comment on the specifics of the complaint but it's uh at this moment but they said they work closely with the alvareto school district officials and the school superintendent, Chester Jarrosca said, Ledbetter started to work there as an assistant football coach and a special needs teacher, a special needs teacher. Nope.

Better not be in that room. God, please tell me that this girl, that he didn't fucking abuse some special needs girl who's not. That's horrific, man. Not that a 16 year old girl is in a. No. Either way.

But that's worse. It's just worse. Way worse. Taking advantage. She's so much more vulnerable. Yeah. Yeah. That might have more of a vulnerability to bullshit.

So they they said school officials received information suggesting the possibility of an inappropriate contact between Ledbetter and a 16 year old student. They asked the so the school officials called the sheriff's department and asked them to do an investigation. Good job, school district there, though. That's one thing I will say. And it's 2004, so it's getting better, but it's not like it is now. So the school district could have brushed that aside sure pushed it under the rug they could have said we did our own internal investigation they immediately passed it on to the sheriff's department and said this is what we heard you might want to look into it so i mean i do hope they like uh made something up

and put them on leave though like hey you know what the uh the special needs classroom needs some uh construction so they're not gonna you can take go ahead and take about two weeks off i'm not gonna be on campus for the next month they're doing it yeah remote learning that's what we're gonna do here just you away from the note we're calling it no touch learning that's the thing especially for you so uh not that we suspect anything. Just, you know, just just just wanted. So he was put on leave now after he's arrested and he'll remain there until after a complete investigation by law enforcement and privacy laws limit what teachers and administrators can discuss with students regarding the situation. But they said that procedures are being taken to protect the students well-being.

So this was the girl told school officials. She went to school officials here, apparently, that she started having sex with him when she was 16. So this wasn't a one-time thing. This is an ongoing relationship with a 16-year that is crazy like what that is what is the what are you fucking thinking what's the end game there you're gonna bring her home to mom you know what i mean yeah that's that's there is no end game that's a that's someone that's the definition of thinking with your dick absolutely yeah and even more too because it's a weird control thing of like i'm in i'm really i think it's also for him like cycle i'm not a psychiatrist actually honestly and

you know obviously never mind but neither are you you're not either jimmy you didn't go to medical school i just see a lot yeah but like in his brain this is like well when i was in high school i did this and that now i'm 30 and the glory's gone. Nobody's cheered for me in a few years. And then this young girl makes me feel like I'm 16 years old again because I'm a pathetic 30-year-old that can't get on with my fucking life and reconstitute a new identity. You know what I'm saying?

And be an adult person now that doesn't have that anymore. He's stuck in this weird past. And the fact that he's a high school football coach, I think, anymore he's stuck in this weird past and the fact that he's a high school football coach i think helps him stay stuck in it yeah the whole thing is just reliving glory days yeah best of his days which is fine as long as you stop short of fucking the 16 year old girls that's the part you can't you can drink beer and like football and do whatever you want there just that's the one part the truck full of cheerleaders not gonna work so um yeah so apparently she told school officials this she said that she wanted to stop the relationship but was afraid of him yeah and didn't know how to

do it basically so she went to school officials to do it because at first it was kind of hot and then i was like oh my god this is gross this is gross. Yeah, this is weird. He's 30. I feel gross. Who knows? She probably told one of her friends and that friend probably had a reaction. That's not, you know, like he's abusing you. And then she went, oh, wow.

Yeah, that is abuse, isn't it? She's 30. She thought for a minute about her herself and her friend probably put it in her head. No, no. You got to look at from the other side of the table where he has a mortgage mortgage and shit that's weird that he's that you don't have all the same things he has that's weird he's got a lot going on right now yeah he has to he is like less than a decade away from wondering about his prostate right that way and you he's the man's nothing to worry about camera up his ass yeah and you and you're worried about, you know, how not to get pregnant.

These are different needs at once. The camera you're about to have is the one for your senior photo. His senior photo is through his asshole. He's having a senior colonoscopy at this moment. It's a different senior photo. Little bit of a different senior photo. I mean, he could put his in the yearbook, but no one's going to want to sign it. His comes with the video oh gross so now by the way this is going on uh in johnson county okay uh they the johnson county grand jury indicts cody on six counts of sexual assault and two counts of improper relationship between an educator and a student.

Yeah. Oh, they've got a special charge. That's great. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it was recently, too. They did that. And it's good they did that because guess what?

This is this is this week. He's not the only teacher in the area to face similar charges here. This week, he's not the only teacher in the area to face similar charges here. Another one, Bangs High School, which is one that Alvarado plays against all the time. Say one more time. Bangs High School. Bangs. One more time, James, for the people in cheap seats. As in, those bangs look terrible on everybody, or he bangs 16-year-old girls.

You can pick whichever one. Unbelievable. But that's, yeah, there you go. Bangs High School. Gross. Or he bangs 16-year-old girls. You can pick whichever one. But that's, yeah, there you go. Bangs High School. Gross. Man. So apparently a guy named Joe Johnson, who was an educator there, they were both charged this week. He's a 27-year-old. A guy named Johnson.

Jesus Christ. Who was fucking kids at Bangs high school johnson taken into custody by the bangs police who did not like his haircut either they were like you're excuse me bangs police bangs police your friends have turned you in. Banks, banks, police. They look like you woke up at two in the morning, angry with something and just went choppity choppity. So no. Okay, let's go. Come with me.

No, no. And they take her away. That and they're like, we're really busy. We had a lot of bad bangs. Then we got to pick up pedophiles. This is a really weird job. We have just women with bad haircuts and pedophiles it's a very strange job we're uh i wake up every day i don't know what i'm doing you know what i mean

guy named johnson god damn guy named johnson bangs police holy fuck man you need a comma in there definitely how could he do comment there definitely how could he do that how could how could he do that hi Johnson bangs high school students yes how you doing just gives

a five second pause students yeah bangs high school students good to meet you that's me Johnson bangs high school students good to meet you that's me johnson banks high school students good to see you oh jesus christ this is gross it's too much um yeah they had a i guess he's indicted by the ground brown grand jury brown county grand jury uh he was booked there a joint law enforcement center charged him with two counts of indecency with a child and one count of improper conduct between a student

and an educator. That charged so much, James. It sounds so gross. Yeah, that's bad stuff right there. Indecency with a child sounds terrible. That's bad enough. And then you get hammered with the other one. And then you add improper

conduct between a student and an educator. Yeah, but that could be they started an Etsy business together. We don't know. That's a enough. And then you get hammered with the other one. And then you add improper conduct between a student and an educator. Yeah, but that could be they started an Etsy business together. We don't know. That's a good point. Conduct can be anything. That can be anything. But indecency, there's a dick involved in that. Now we know.

Someone's dick is out. Yeah, somebody's genitals were touching the air. Somewhere in the bowels of bangs high school deep deep in the bowels of bangs jenny's in the air babe oh god i'm disgusted right now i feel dirty raw jenny's and oxygen that's what that is that's amazing they've been following johnson's case since the fall of 2002 when parents provided statements alleging wrongdoing by him and uh so it took that long it took like almost two years for this um they said that in general, this is the who is this somebody who's with the district attorney's office, I think, in charge of the school people in general, if there's a criminal matter pending in the criminal courts, we work closely with the D.A. or entity who is

handling the case largely so that we don't contaminate the case if the D.A. or other entity is not real clear on where they stand. In doing so, we're careful not to jeopardize the direction of their case, the direction their case is going and generally wait to see if there are other witnesses that they will call or other evidence that they were will present so apparently they just kind of sit back this is the board of education uh thing here they said they created the uh state board for educator certification it was only created in 1995. And that board oversees all aspects of the preparation, certification, and professional standards of conduct of all public school educators. So, yeah, they make sure they're teaching that Bible good and plenty.

So, down there. So, he said that they could seek numerous sanctions or professional disciplinary actions against any educator who's convicted of a criminal charge. Up until October 2003, circumventing an educator obtaining a license in the state of Texas who had previous criminal convictions included disciplinary actions taken by out-of-state districts. districts basically until they until october 1st 2003 which is right before the cody started having this relationship there was a lot harder to coordinate other districts and it was almost like priests like they just move them around other districts you could just move if you had some weird shit going on uh they said though after that the now the state conducts a social security name check and uh all this sort of shit. And they also must provide fingerprints. They can run them through the NCIC and all that kind of shit.

So they also communicate with the FBI now and everything like that. So the former Bangs superintendent, Billy Jack Rankin, old Billy Jack, he said that Johnson passed all Jack and Bangs there's all these names Johnson Jack everybody's name has to have something sexual in it with bangs is there a guy named Drippy Dick can we just get to the point

yeah I want to see their entire you know staff list I really do somebody named Precom somebody named Shaft is all this shit coming through? You know it's there. And then the director of the whole thing is Susan Labia. So he's also in.

So they said that, Jesus Christ, he said that Johnson passed all the requirements mandated by the state of Texas and all of that shit. So March 17th, 2004. This is two weeks later. Okay. Two weeks later, Cody's arrested again. He's arrested again by Johnson County authorities this time. There was Johnson and now there's tarrant county is involved as well because uh not only was he in different places with this 16 year old there's

also another girl involved as well another 16 year old yeah he's working on the pickup truck here he's working on filling it uh so he's arrested tuesday by mansfield investigators who uh accuse him of having sex with a 16 year old girl taken into custody at his home and all of this shit here. He is bailed now. Bail set at one hundred and seventy five thousand now. Now there's a fucking pattern here. Right. They accuse him of sexual assault, improper relationships with the student, both second degree felonies, which carry sentences of two to 20 years each.

Wow. So that's a lot of sentencing leeway. Yeah. That's, I assume, how bad the acts were. Yeah, that sort of thing. The age, the acts. But two to 20 years is a shitload. So, yeah, he was arrested in Johnson County.

He's been arrested in Tarrant County. They accuse him. The other charges are indecency with a child there. So anyway, they said, quote, this offense took place in a remote part of Mansfield near the city limits. He took her out in a fucking truck in a field somewhere. You just know it. Yeah. You just know it.

a fucking truck in a field somewhere you just know it yeah you just know it um i don't know that for sure but uh the teenager gave the statement to mansfield police march 3rd he was arrested after that and uh after the first arrest the uh his attorney vehemently defended his client's innocence and said ledbetter did not even know the identity of the accuser they wouldn't even tell him who's making the charge against him due to privacy laws so he's like how am i even supposed to defend myself because i don't even know who's saying it that's his defense you know bro the one you're fucking probably shut up cody yeah hey fuck you cody that's a shut up thank you that's a big time shut up it really is shut up cody you know you fucking jerk hey and if you don't know even more gross even fucking grosser so uh the attorney for the alvarado high school here oh this is for

this is his attorney his attorney says that he's devastated by the accusation which he emphatically denies sure did not do anything here uh this is ridiculous uh i doesn't understand it at all uh that yeah i touched her improperly several times between october and january uh she told her friend that she was afraid and wanted to end the relationship and uh but he refused is what she told so she was like i don't want to do this anymore he's like oh we're doing it still. Which if you're 16, I don't know if you know how to get out of that when an adult. That's probably what he was depending on.

From law standards, it just went from statutory rape to rape rape. You know what I mean? Yeah. From like consensual sex with a child yeah which is impossible that's still rape but the point is consensual sex too i don't want to do this anymore that's legit rape rape yeah i know how you can end it tell your dad about it yeah that'll end it real quick have a chat with pop her dad's probably the aggies guy they based the logo on. You know, like, this is like Southwest Texas. You don't fucking diddle somebody's daughter down there and not get shot up, I would imagine. No.

At least chased around. You lose the body part, don't you? Dragged behind a bumper or something. Yeah. Something. They'll get you for that shit. It popped in my head because I was just reading that last week some guy in Texas, his mom and his mom's boyfriend got in a fight. So he beat the mom's boyfriend to death and tied him with a tow chain to the guy's own bumper and drove him like 500 yards and then set the whole thing on fire and walked away.

The car, the guy, everything. I was like, holy shit. Good God, Texas. And deputies high-fived him. I mean, it was weird. So I don't even know if there was, like, physical abuse or anything. Who's this? They called her a bitch one day?

I don't know, man. This dude snapped. So the friend passed on this kid's concerns to the athletic director, who was also the head football coach there, Howard Wells, who brought in Cody to this whole thing, moved there with him. And he then reported them up the chain. Everybody went up the chain with it and reported, reported, until it got to the police. So everybody did their jobs here. I'll give them that.

Nobody brushed it aside. Everybody took it seriously. Fucking good for you. His attorney, Cody's attorney, quote he's devastated he's he says it's absolutely not true he categorically denies any improper behavior with any student i don't know why this is occurring because i don't know who the girl is is what he'll say tell me it all boils down to a student who made the accusation period the uh the starting point is to find out who the kid is and what was said jesus that sounds really weird i mean i get you that's discovery though you'll

as the process goes you'll get you will get discovered all that shit you'll learn all that stuff there is privacy laws for public but you have to there's discovery as well of like how you know this girl and the legal system will fill that in. Shut up, Cody. So Cody says or his lawyer says the thing that Cody is most disturbed about. Don't use the words disturbed and Cody unless you're saying you're disturbed by Cody at this point. Don't tell me this shit. Don't tell me this shit. Don't tell me. You know what Cody's most disturbed about?

I don't know that he fucked a 16-year-old because I'd find that pretty disturbing. It's super disturbing. If I went in my mental Rolodex and that image was there, I'd go, hey, that doesn't belong in here. What's going on? Where'd that come from? You know what disturbs me about Cody is not necessarily that he touched a 16-year-old, had sex, any sort of sexual gratification by 16 it's that he got to a point where clothes had to come off to a 16 year old

and he still was hard that's crazy and he's like yeah this is what i'm looking for god no doing no what are you doing man what the fuck are you doing He saw 16 year old breast and was still in. That's crazy. Yep. I'm in baby. Jesus. What a fucking pig. So I don't know. Cody here. He is most disturbed that he was not informed about the accusations or interviewed by school officials. They didn't come to him and be like, Cody, we hear you're diddling girls. Is this true? No, they went up the line to the police where they're not going to tip you off to this so you can go threaten the girl to shut the fuck up. That's what you would have done. Right.

Duh. That's why they don't do that. And they said that he was arrested while visiting his mother in Stephenville. Good. I mean, the nerve of these people. I was, this poor woman's been through enough. This poor woman's been through enough. So he also says, quote, So as far as Cody knows, no one who has ever worked with him was ever questioned. And certainly none of his friends were interviewed prior to this arrest.

What does that have to do with who is he telling his friends? Right. Yeah. He wasn't going to tell his friends he was fucking a 16 year old. Probably were his friends fucking the 16 year old, too. They have nothing to do with this. Right. Nothing. The assistant DA defended the decision to arrest him without interviewing him first. You don't have to.

We have the evidence. He said the investigation started. They felt they had enough evidence to arrest him, and they didn't really need to fucking talk to him about it. It didn't matter what he said. They were arresting him anyway. They needed to do so because the news of the investigation was starting to spread throughout the community. So they couldn't leave the teacher among the students. He said, quote, he hadn't been at school for a few days. We didn't know where he was, but logistics required us to issue an arrest warrant before we located him to ask him to talk to us.

So there was that. So there are these are all the charges. So at this point, he's out on bail. He gets out on bail. He's got two different sets of charges in two different counties now. Also, Tarrant and Johnson County can't teach right now. Obviously, he is fucked. There's not a lot of football teams to join.

So he begins driving a truck in his hometown of Stephenville. I mean, that is uh that's where he should have gone in the first place to be honest with you yeah he wanted to be around the kids yeah right so now he's driving a truck in stevenville so i mean uh like i said nothing against driving a truck at all there's a way to make a damn fine living but it keeps predators out of the school room which is what that's that's a nice thing but it also it's one of those things if you uh thought you were going to be an nfl quarterback 10 years ago probably not where you thought you'd be driving a truck in your old neighborhood sure not exactly where you thought your life would end up so

july 2005 he comes up with a plea deal here they they give him a plea deal here um and he uh referred comments to his attorney quote mr ledbetter recognizes that his behavior was inappropriate now it's now he's inappropriate before he has no idea now quote it has limited his job opportunities for the future i'll bet oh has it shut up cody how's that yeah it's weird nobody wants to work with pedophiles it's very strange very few people are like hmm well you know what i'm sure we'll never have a kid around sure why not bring him in the fuck out of here what business never has anyone under 18 in it or you know what i mean this is not or has a bunch of guys that wouldn't want to beat the shit out of him if they were like i could say he could work in like a foundry or something but

those guys would beat the shit out of him and throw him into the molten whatever the fuck right you know this is a not a good thing here that's what he's upset about is that it's limited his job opportunities he pleads to two counts of improper relationship and was he's going to be sentenced on that, as we'll talk about. This plea deal was approved by both the teenager and her mother in court. They both said that they were OK with it. And the prosecutor, this is the county D.A. Johnson County D.A. Dale Hannah said, quote, the victim was asking us to do this to avoid going through a major jury trial she wanted to get on with her life i don't blame her yeah if you're a at this point 17 year old girl and this happened to you do you want it to just in a small town to drag the details of what

the fuck through the whole thing or do you just want okay yeah give him something and let me move on with my goddamn life yeah you. You know what I'm saying? And I don't have to go sit through the trial and tell every goddamn thing that I did with him. Yeah. Well, when you're a teenager, you're embarrassed about everything. And to be, I can imagine being a teenage girl and you have to go through all the details of what you did with some 30-year-old abusive asshole. Right. That was, you know, God knows what he was telling her and shit.

And how much is the defense going to try to pull this out and make it her fault you know what i mean oh yeah that's what i mean i'm gonna drag her through it you never know they oh she told him he was she was 18 or whatever who the hell knows so um this is all goes through court finally in court in august of 2005 um is his sentencing for this uh whole thing and they they kind of wrap it all up into one here both of the the problems the tarrant county one yeah they decide that there wasn't enough evidence to pursue the charges they wanted to there okay so they decided they put kind of everything into the johnson county one and kind of sprinkle that on for some character shit so yeah they give him the judge must want to punch him in the dick, I would imagine. Any judge, hit him with the gavel in the dick.

So he says, you, sir, may fuck off 10 years probation. What? That's it. 10 years probation. Stop it. 10 years probation. I am. I'm baffled, James.

I'm absolutely baffledled you get some jail time for fucking a kid right you do i'm sorry i thought yeah yeah i thought texas was was hardline on bad people i was gonna say well not a kid fucking now now come on now i mean you seen some of them 16 year olds awfully purdy mouths on them i'm'm just telling you now. I mean, 14, 13, yeah, I understand. But 16, I mean, gee, they're a-blooming. They're blooming like a yellow Texas rose, boy. Let me tell you something. A good 45% of them got the braces off by now.

Oh, they got the braces off. Most of them got HPV already anyway. So it's not even like I'm going, you know, what the hell's the difference? I don't know what's going on down there. Jesus Christ. Sorry, Texas, but i didn't do this you did this is fucking crazy how do you let him go you idiot how do you let him go um wow uh and on top of that you'd think well at least he's gonna be a registered sex offender now so you know at least people will know like within a 20 mile radius to stay away from him he'll pop up on those apps yeah you know it's gotta go a door knocking for a little bit all of

those before moving day well let's see i got all my stuff let me get my stack of handouts here for the neighborhood to tell him that i like children all right that's good go knock on this door and pray to christ it doesn't open i just get to scotch tape this thing to the door yeehaw all right then won't get by i figure i'll get punched in the mouth a good two three dozen times today it's gonna happen i mean it's gonna happen it's a coming then especially when their teenage daughters answer the door and then they come to the door and they hear what happened they really want to whoop my ass yeah so uh he will not have to register as a sex on fucking believable will not have to register as a sex offender that is i don't even know what to say about that that's why how is that a deterrent at all 10 yeah you for what he went through

if he really liked it it might have been worth it for him for sure i got i really liked fucking her like i you know something about fucking a kid i'm really into it please don't isolate that but you see what i'm saying like he you know it's like well i mean 10 years and he has no he can't be as he can't be a teacher now. Oh, boy. There was two of them. He clearly dug it. Yeah, he likes them. He also can't coach at a school or can't teach at a school while serving 10 years probation. So after that, you can hire him. He won't have to register as a sex offender because a 2003 law, which under he was sentenced, does not require it.

Okay. They made a difference here. Under the law. Yeah, and we'll talk about the law for a second, but the Alvarado School Superintendent, Chester Jaruska, or Jaroska again, he said this is disturbing to him. Chester. Yeah, it never ends.

What in the fuck? Everybody has a dick name or a banging or chester's a molester it never ends it never ends in this fucking episode what is happening i don't understand this shit man did you write this no this is true are we gonna get a god are we gonna get a fucking it's all a lie at the end i swear to god no i didn't make up an entire episode this is totally washed up player and we're like fuck it i'm gonna make him a pedo just found a picture of a washed up player and just made up a name cody ledbetter that sounds like an asshole. This does sound made up. It's not, though, I swear to God. I'm going to throw Johnson in there and some Bangs. It's Bangs High School.

Wait, no, Jimmy will never believe that. Well, if I sell it hard enough, I think I can make him believe it. Like, if I act like I'm as shocked as him, he'll probably buy it. No. By the time I get Chester out, Jimmy's going to sniff this story out. He's going to definitely know. No, I swear to God, this is not an entire episode. Absolutely unbelievable and absolutely awful.

It's awful. Everything in here documented as fuck. This is not several publications. You've made up the beginning of somebody's life. Are you now making up the end of their life? Just making up the crime part. Is that where we've gotten to? We've exhausted this shit?

Pick an athlete. Make up a name. Take their professional life. Use that and then make up whatever. No, I definitely wouldn't make up a pedophile story because no one wants that. Nobody wants this, Jake. You didn't have to do this. I'd make up like he murdered his, you know, something.

I'd make up some other crazy shit. Not this. This is a bridge too far, James. I've gone too far this time. I mean, cheese wars for small town murder, tulip tennis rackets, bears eating children. All these things are one thing. This is a bridge too far. Now kids with their

lives being ruined oh my god no i did not ruin anyone's life okay children's lives with my story so uh the the fact that he won't have to register as a sex offender is disturbing to chester um you know it makes me look bad with this name he said said that he terminated Ledbetter's probationary contract as a special education teacher and football coach there, obviously. They said that the judge here, it includes counseling and a $1,000 fine as well and community service. Oh, you better. Yeah. Community service. And he must surrender his teaching certificate.

community service and he must surrender his teaching certificate and uh and also there's a requirement that he must stay away from that teen and anyone under 17 so he's not allowed to be around anyone under 17 anymore like how old was she the last time he fucked her right 17 no one under 17 no 17 or under he can't he's 18 whatever but he likes 17 he'll try to fuck a 17 year old and 16 so we should probably wow um they should have made it what's his age minus two that's it yeah we're gonna give him two years outside of that he's if he sees a 26 year old we'll lynch him we'll hang him how do you let me ask you something something cody the judge says in court. How do you feel about MILFs? Because from now on, it's really what you should be going after. How do you feel about that? So this whole thing goes on.

There's a state rep involved in this who involved the improper. The reason why there's no sex offender registry is because it was a law that was introduced it's the improper relationship law and it's to protect 17 year olds from sexual relationships with teachers because i think 16 is the age of consent so 17 year olds legally i think you can fuck them but you can't fuck them if you're a teacher that's the difference so they put this in here just as like a stop gap yeah so the teachers yeah between it being criminal and and them being out of high school there's a year where it's like open season on the 17 year olds boy legal legal legal uh so there's any any uh cpa's somewhere

that want to fuck 17 year olds i've got a head start because i'm already in the building i'm already there buddy before the law was adopted teachers could be fired but not prosecuted for having consensual sex with students older than 60 older than 16 so before this you weren't even it wasn't even like a state law like you definitely lost your job you could fuck a 17 year old student and keep your job technically that was possible not be prosecuted and keep your job teaching other students so using that as your own private little nightclub or day club i guess it would be morning club holy shit uh he said so many cases of these improper relationships were turning up. I thought we needed to do something about it. Well, yeah, it was in the law. There was a gray area.

You made a gray area. That's what it is. When you make a gray area, people go, holy shit, do you see there's a big giant hole to exploit? That didn't sound good. Oh, God. Maybe I did make this up. No, I didn't make it up. But Jesus Christ, that was terrible.

There's a real loophole we can fill here ah it's a big loophole that we can just put that pole vault carrot into so uh the law was expanded to include students under 17 but the legislature legislators did not require those convicted under the improper relationship law to register as sex offenders because technically what they did was legal in age but not in position so you just can't teach and it's illegal but it doesn't make you like you're a sex offender is what grows your morality is out the window that you're you're a fucking monster i would say if you fuck yeah that's disgusting and they said well why didn't you make this why didn't you put the sex offender

registry in there and they said quote this is the one of the representatives said, quote, it's not something that really came up. I think it has a lot to do with the circumstances. I'd have to give it some more thought. They said it didn't really came up. They were just trying to get this law on the books to stop teachers from fucking 17 year olds. They didn't even think about registry of it. It wasn't even a thing. They said, though, both of the judge here withheld the guilty finding until Ledbetter serves his probation.

That way they can reinstate it at any point. Basically, they can. And it would start from there. So it might not. Basically, it says that New Mexico might not have a felony conviction on his record. If he successfully completes the probation, it might get knocked down from not a felony at that point. The girl, the main girl this happened with, who's now 18 when it was going on, she did not attend the sentencing and said she

moved on with her life at that point. The prosecutor said it was totally inappropriate behavior on his part. He was a coach. The kids trusted him. Hopefully he's getting his life straightened out and everyone will move on. Chester. This is not a good line for a man named Chester to say, by the way. Jesus, Chester.

Think about what you're saying. Quote, I understand things might happen between a young man and a 16, 17, 18 year old girl. No. No. Shut up, Chesterester what the fuck are we doing a young man is 16 17 18 that's a young man a young man is not 30 something that's crazy chester 30 is not a young man if the coach was 19 yeah you'd go yeah okay i could see that he graduated last year he was a senior when that girl was a sophomore was a junior and now she's a senior and he graduated he's gonna try to bang her yeah i can see where the lines get blurred with a guy like that yeah not 30 no no so he then he goes on to say but teachers hold a sacred trust he needs to understand his position

of moral authority and exercise it correctly. Like many people, I just assumed he'd have to register as a sex offender. But he doesn't, like we said. So he's got all this hanging over him, obviously. He's on 10 years probation. He's driving a truck. And he's the kid fucker. So he's not really, his reputation isn't wonderful at this point.

Oh, he's not very popular. No, but kid fucker. So he's not really, his reputation isn't wonderful at this point. Oh, he's not very popular. No, but somehow in 2007, and this is hope for anybody who says I'll never have a relationship, this guy meets a woman. Oh, boy. You don't have any pedophilia in your past, do you? Well, if not, you can probably meet somebody,

so just try harder. Yeah. Yeah, they started dating in 2007. They met in Stephenville texas and she knows everything about him i don't she can read probably so this was pretty big news in a small town hey remember that hero yeah he fucks kids now that's a you know um she knew about everything she knew he pled guilty to having an improper relationship and she knew everything but nonetheless they move in together in texas everything seems well everything is great everything is wonderful it's all good

right then they get in a fight oh boy because cody's been cheating uh-huh cody just needs to he needs to feel like he's special is what it is i feel like you know what i mean so he needs multiple women one woman can't make you feel special you need a bunch of them he found two women to fuck a pedophile that's crazy yep on the side he'd been cheating on her so she threw him out okay now as a part of his probation he's not allowed to drink alcohol he's not allowed to do a lot of things got to check in a lot of meetings and things like that. Instead, he went out, got shit faced and made a complete fucking spectacle of himself and ends up being arrested and taken in front of a judge for this shit. And the judge was ready to, you know, tell him, OK, well, fuck your goddamn 10 year probation.

You know, there was a good chance that he was going to instate the prison sentence make him sit for the rest of the time yeah because not only this he had been breaking uh other things too he did not put the alcohol interlock device on his vehicle he was supposed to yeah and he didn't this is not his first alcohol violation. Okay. And he had just stopped showing up for probation meetings as well. Well, yeah. So because they're so lenient on me, why do you even do what they told me to do?

No shit. So he was going to do that. At this point in time, the woman he was living with said that because, you know, he's released on bail and he's held over for sentencing or whatever. She said, quote, he was facing up to 20 years in jail. Yeah, as he is at this point. That's what the max on those charges are. So he ran. He took the fuck off, dude.

He took off. Yeah. She said she didn't want to go with him, but he was very persuasive, she said. He was just very persuasive. Cody's got a golden tongue on him, I think. So the woman he was cheating with ran with him? No, no, no. The woman who he was living with.

Got it. Who kicked him out for cheating. Now she found out that he's doing all this, and now he's like, listen, I know I cheated on you and I'm a pedophile and everything, but you want to run with me? You want to live on the lam with me? i'm whitey bulger and she said okay and went with him on a truck driver's salary they'll never catch us they'll never catch us um they're driving her 2003 pickup truck with oklahoma license plates that's their their takeoff vehicle yeah where do you go if you're cody canada baby oh my god really like you're dodging

the draft he's gonna cross the entire fucking country as a wanted pedophile okay goes all the way up there wanted for diddlin and he's going up there uh once they get to canada she said about canada quote i never wanted to come here in the first place, but this is where Cody said he wanted to go. Yeah, this is where they made me. They got all the way to Canada and they settled down up there. This is this is crazy. He said she said, quote, I knew he was going to be on the run. That's why I was leery of coming up here. But he kind of played mind games with me and told me I'd be a bad parent if I didn't bring my daughter up here to be with her daddy to be a family because they have a fucking child together. They had a goddamn child. They have a one year old daughter at this point.

Oh, boy. Into this mix. Okay. She said, quote, he was a great dad to her. He was always there for her. So he just ends up not being there for me. So, you know, not about how he treats the kids, about our relationship is what she's saying. She said that he got to Ottawa and he was hanging out with his football buddies from his playing days there.

What in the shit? Oh, September 2009. They're playing, doing all that. Once he gets up there hanging out, that's when she, this is the fucked up part. They didn't go up together. all that um once he gets up there hanging out that's when she this is the fucked up part they didn't go up together he went up first to get settled get settled in he's doing construction work that he got from some of his old football buddies he once she gets he gets settled she goes up there she follows him up there with a fucking with the infant daughter so she brings an under

one year old to go on the lam, even though she had a few months to think about this shit and not go. So he was working freelance construction jobs in Ottawa. This is what ended up happening. He was cited different places, and people kind of know he's wanted and know he's not wanted

and all this type of shit. He's sitting up there in Canada like it's no big deal waiting for his girlfriend and his baby they said he was spotted in several restaurants near the apartment house he hangs out in the park right by there and just not a fucking care in the world jimmy like it never happened doing journeyman handyman work yeah he's uh he's like i do finishing i'm a finishing carpenter i know what i'm doing doing. You know what I mean? So he does all of this. One day, he's just sitting there. He's relaxing, obviously, because it's all fine and dandy.

And he's on a park bench, and the birds are chirping, and the breeze is blowing. And he hears a noise that's not normally around there. It's a bunch of dogs barking. He doesn't know what to do. He turns around, and it's Bobby Colorado, animal trainer from fredericksburg texas and he says how is it you come to arrive here yeah no no come on come back there let's go no no get i'm keeping the dogs away from you you know what i don't i don't i'm gonna tell you right now i don't usually say this i don't try not to judge they send me i don't know how many times they send me out here 40 50 fucking times i gotta

come out i gotta talk to you people somebody's all fucked up in the head i gotta try to set them straight but i'm gonna tell you something i don't fucking like you i'm gonna tell you right now i don't like you that's it if you ever come if i see you come near even one of my dogs i'm gonna cut your fucking throwing hand off and have it shipped back to the sheriff in texas i swear to christ i go these fingerprints match huh i know where he is i got the rest of them up here if you want them i'm tired of this shit let's go you don't know no yeah you don't even need a fucking dog this dog's four years old in dog years it's too old for you it's too old for you in dog years the problem is I'd give you a dog but you're not going to want it after it's two that's the only problem

it's going to be never mind I gotta get the phone you don't even know I don't want to hear it I don't even want to hear it shut up Cody fuck you and poof of dog shit and marinara sauce

he's gone and Cody's very confused he understands people don't like him but he doesn't even know who this guy is. He's very, very confused. So he's gone for like, you know, over a year now. He made his way on to the Texas's most top 10 most wanted list. Good. By March of 2010, the sheriff's office in Johnson County, Texas, puts him at the number one most wanted slot on the Texas's most wanted list. Is this fucking idiot?

Sheriff Bob Alford said, quote, he needs to be off the street. If he weren't hard to find, he wouldn't be on the most wanted list. We're going through all the normal procedures to find him. So obviously he's fucking hot. That's why we ain't got him. It sounds to me like that should be an alert that our phones get. You know, like when one kid goes missing and one kid is in danger, we have an alert for that. This guy is, every kid's in fucking danger.

So what color alert would that be? Fucking bright ass red. Pedophile alert. Yeah. Bright red alert. That's not good. Bright red alert. Pedophile on the move. That's not good. Bright red alert. Pedophile on the move. That's some information that would be helpful.

I don't need to know when an old person's missing. Half the time they're just going off on their own to do something. I want to know when a pedophile's on the run. Call it fire engine red alert. You know what I mean? Fire engine red. Yeah. Little kids know what that means.

They get it. Exactly. Little kids know what that means. They get it. Exactly. So the one guy here from the Johnson County Sheriff's Department says, we got a tip, a Crimestoppers tip that he was up there in Canada, pointing up like up straight up as Canada. He was in the Ottawa area.

We're in the process of pursuing that tip now. So that's what they're thinking. That is where he is, too. They said that they're going to have to, you know, if he is is up there they're gonna have to work to try to extradite him and things like that and they said federal officers are in touch with our warrants unit and getting everything lined up we don't know how long he's been out of texas or out of the country he just disappeared and he says quote until he's in custody there's nothing we can do the warrants been out for quite a while since january 4th, so three months.

That's when we found out he'd broken the rules of his probation. I'm sorry, a year and a half. We filed because he absconded. He finally stopped reporting for probation. So he's living with this girl and his infant young daughter up there. Summer of 2010, the relationship goes a little sour here so by let's say may of 2010 they break up and uh they're not together anymore okay but they have an agreement that he's still gonna watch the daughter while the mother's working so they're gonna do that like he's gonna

be the babysitter of his daughter okay the mother's at work, the baby. So that's their agreement. So they sort of have an amicable breakup, we'll say, if they have that sort of arrangement or anything like that. Now, problem is also, oh, did I mention she's pregnant again with his kid? So there's that, too. She's also, again, pregnant. Then, toward late July things aren't going

so well. Basically Cody shows up at her house in a rage and demands her truck. Okay. Give me your truck. I need it. I want your truck. He doesn't live there. They're not together anymore. They've been split up for months. He's not giving him. Yeah. It's not like they're together

and he's like I gotta take the truck to the store real quick this is a totally different thing so uh he arrived there she said this was the last remnant of her late father's estate and it was in her name completely this is like their only thing that she has a bequeathed truck from her father from her dead father and it's the last thing she has it's all hers you know so uh anyway they end up getting in a big argument he's threatening her uh she ends up now like we said there's a one-year-old girl in the mix here and also she's pregnant uh as well so he's yelling and threatening her she grabs a knife as well to keep him away because he's also a big guy. Six foot two.

He's 220 pounds. He's a big guy. So anyway, there's a fight that occurs and he ends up fleeing the premises. And when the police arrive, because neighbors called the police, not her. She didn't even call the police. Neighbors arrived. They found her pregnant with a swollen black and blue eye and some blood on her and everything else. So he socked her good.

He gave her a shot in front of the one-year-old. Very nice. I know it's one year old, but still, Jesus Christ. He wasn't there though so they talked to other people in the complex who heard about it and uh they said the reason why they called is because quote they saw quote a bleeding woman was found staggering through the apartment building hallway early saturday morning that's why they called cause for concern yeah that gets people to go you know what i'm gonna see if she needs help um you know so a bleeding woman staggering around.

I don't want to live in an apartment complex like this. Let's call and get this fixed. No shit. So a Toronto newspaper also reported that other residents recognized his photo from a photo circulated by police and then published in the paper. And they said said this is another resident said ledbetter was a a big talker so he wasn't trying to hide who quote used his real name talked freely about his career in the cfl what an ego and even parked his pickup truck a 2003 dodge four-door pickup with oklahoma license plates in the outdoor lot

right behind the building so he was just not even not hiding at all hey i'm cody yeah i played for the tiger cats tiger cats um so she said this is his uh girlfriend quote i have a black eye scratches on my shoulder he's got a cut on his right hand from trying to grab the knife out of my hand so this got physical as fuck um jesus um she said quote i didn't call the cops because he kept telling me if i ever went to the cops i'd get arrested for aiding and abetting a fugitive i didn't want my daughter being raised in a foster home that's a legitimate concern sure that's why you don't run to other countries with fugitives. What the fuck are we doing? Shut up, Cody.

So the police are looking for this, for her truck, which is a 2003, I think it's the same truck that they had that they share. Dodge?

Dodge pickup with Oklahoma license plates. They're looking for that. Oh, by the way, he's also facing charges from something else that somebody reported him for of unlawful uh being unlawfully in a dwelling and threatening a man as well so he's on a roll yeah right now um he's on the lam no one knows where he is

she says to the paper this woman quote i have absolutely no idea where he's gone i wish i did know where he was because then i wouldn't be having to look over my shoulder every 10 minutes yeah she's afraid of him um they call they're asking all around they called her his aunt they called his home and his aunt melody answered and uh she said she was surprised to learn that his girlfriend and daughter had followed him to canada she said quote he's just made some bad choices, I guess you'd have to say. Understatement of the century. He's just made some bad choices, I guess you'd have to say. I love Cody.

He's my nephew, but I don't really know what's going on. I don't really understand what's going on. Oh, wait till you find out. How about... I hope she's like 87 years old isn't with it all the way you know and she's just like he seems like a nice boy how about refrain from comment till you find out jesus no shit they family said they know all about his legal troubles but they didn't really discuss it at all it was just kind of kept under there and she also says quote of

course he denies it all and uh yeah his former girlfriend says that uh quote if i know him when things get bad he'll just run so i'm sure he's already long gone you know like a scrambling quarterback exactly things get that pocket breaks down he's taking off he's gonna run his his psychology is real basic i lacked high school i'ma fuck me a high school girl when things get tough you just run i'm got pocket breaks down you just run he's just the difference is not only 11 police officers you got to outrun a whole lot more than that bud oh yeah there's a not there's more than 11 police officers that might be my fucking favorite thing we've ever said there's more than 11 police

officers and he went and involved the royal the royal mounted like oh he's got everybody they got a lot more up there he's got other fucking countries involved i mean this whole thing's a disaster this is not even a thought so he'll just run uh The sheriff there in Johnson County, Bob Alford, said, quote, he needs to be off the street. If he weren't hard to find, wouldn't be on most wanted list. So he said, we're still looking for him. Exactly what I said before. He also said, quote, he's been on the run for a while. Then he said he'll read the paper and take off again.

But we'll keep chasing him. We tracked him pretty well across the United States during his flight to avoid prosecution. This isn't a coyote roadrunner situation. We wake up, he runs, and we chase him. And then I'll go to bed at night thinking, I'm going to get that fella tomorrow. And he's like, I'm going to run again. Right. No, catch him.

What the fuck are you doing? And he's not Leonardo Di not leonardo dicaprio pretending to be a pan am pilot he's he's in a fucking dodge yeah yeah driving it's not hard to find so uh yeah there's warrants uh jesus two counts of revocation of community supervision one for each of his original counts. So he is fucked. Mid-August 2010, he finally surrenders to the Ottawa Police Service in Ontario. He's run out of space to go.

There's really nowhere else he can go. He is accused of domestic assault up there while he's living there. But the Canadians said they're perfectly willing to stay the charges to clear his way for extradition to Texas. They're like, that's no problem. So he said that, you know, his lawyer said his immigration status is still the same.

And I guess he entered Canada legally. He didn't sneak in. He entered on a visitor's pass. And I guess they didn't do a background check that he was literally wanted in the U.S. You can't get into Canada if you have a weed possession. This guy can fuck kids and get in? I don't understand it. Yeah, they should at least register him to be not in Canada or anywhere else.

So he's sitting in jail for the assault and causing bodily harm in the domestic incident there, and they said that his lawyer said to the judge, quote, it will be no shock to your honor that he is a little disappointed that this is happening now after he's been in jail for seven weeks because they kept him in jail for seven weeks. And then they had a hearing to decide whether they were going to pursue the charges or extradite him back to Texas. I love it. So he's like, what the fuck?

He suggested outside the court that his client would be entitled to a detention review hearing in 48 hours and would not be removed from Canada anytime soon. However, the prosecution said that actually his removal from Canada would be very quick. He said there's a very good chance he won't see the 48 hour detention review. So he'll be gone within two days. Now, the sheriff's very excited about this down in Texas. Oh, I'm sure. He said it's important to get all the absconders brought back.

All them absconders. We bring them back. We want to express our appreciation to the Canadian officials. We're working closely with us on getting him captured. He was given a second chance, and he violated the terms and conditions of that. So we don't stop until we get him back, whatever it takes. Definitely. He's looking at a whole lot worse environment to be placed into a lot harder circumstances on him than if he just followed through like he was given the opportunity. So he brought it on himself is what he just said.

They said that he had not been promptly removed to the u.s because uh if he's not promptly if he's not basically extradited right away then they'll do the criminal shit up there with him but otherwise whatever um so they said finally we have an obligation under the immigration and refugee protection act to remove people as quickly as possible january 2011 he is extradited back to texas great um yeah uh he initially tried and failed to fight the extradition on the grounds that the texas justice system is inhumane which is true but still um he needs to he needs some inhumanity at this point fuck this guy they've been far too humane towards you sir that's everyone has so he's back in texas and uh jesus christ he's there i feel bad for his family man jesus fuck he's back there this is not good

how'd you like to be related to this guy he's like oh jesus back again cody again fuck he used to be in the newspaper for such good things and now there's bad things i mean honestly i feel bad for that the poor young girl that now has to know that he's there this guy's pregnant uh girlfriend who's now stuck in fucking ottawa that's not where she's from or anything like that i feel bad i feel bad for all these people jimmy but not nearly as bad as i feel for cody ledbetter an MMA fighter whose career was 0-3. He lost in the first round of three straight MMA fights and then gave up. Cody Ledbetter, future assessment integration and research NCO at U.S. Army Recruiting and Retention College in Fort Knox, Kentucky.

Yeah, he looks much smarter than our Cody. Cody Ledbetterter some dude on go fund me who's trying to just raise money for himself um for quote dreams hopes and wishes oh that's exactly what i expect from a cody ledbetter fuck you you lazy bastard get a goddamn job who do you think you are fuck is wrong with you not even to pay bills just for dreams hopes and wishes just for fun just give me money because i like doing fun things fuck you cody shut up cody shut up cody it's over now but he raised 160 dollars for this bullshit cody ledbetter a biker and stepson of a dead biker who was shot to death in the 2017 Twin Peaks biker shootout. Oh my God!

Cody was among 177 bikers arrested and charged with engaging in organized criminal activity. And he ends up being held for a while. He ends up suing the state at one point during his detention because all of the evidence

was like fucking uh like porn and pictures from his phone between him and his wife so he was saying he they were calling it revenge porn the state put it out as a revenge porn against him it really went back and forth a lot of privacy yeah that's what it was and then eventually, finally, his charges are all dismissed and he goes home. Cody Ledbetter, 2015 graduate of some fucking high school here in Cartersville, Georgia. He's a left-handed pitcher. He was the 31st ranked left-handed pitcher in the state of Georgia at one point. And it looks like he played two years for Young Harris College, whatever the fuck that is. And he had a career ERA of 2945 at the college.

Oh, turns out he was not as good as he thought. That wasn't good at all. I'd rather be an 0-3 MMA fighter. No shit. It's at least probably less painful. Finally here, and I swear to God I'm not looking for these. This is just what popped up just randomly and luckily in the last three weeks twice now. The wedding of Gabriella Kuhn and Cody Ledbetter in Bremen, Georgia, taking place September 4th, 2021.

So it hasn't even happened yet. They are registered at registry.thenot.com. And they're registered all over. Looks like I have some of them. We'll go over a few of their items, of course, that they're looking for, obviously. Amazon gift card. That's a $20 one.

I'm looking for that. Honeymoon fun to Hawaii. Gift any amount. Oh, fuck you. That's on you, Cody. Shut up, Cody. Shut up, Cody. We're not accepting that. $50 Lowe's gift card. That's on you, Cody. Shut up, Cody. Shut up, Cody. We're not accepting that.

$50 Lowe's gift card. That's understandable. Deco Bros kitchen counter and cabinet pan organizer, which is kind of cool. That way your pans aren't all stacked up. It's on a little rack here. Handmade macrame coasters. Fuck you. $16 for fucking macrame coasters?

Listen, James, he wants to go to Hawaii. He's got expensive taste. Cody, this is not a good use of people's money here. Panta knot macrame napkin rings. They're into macrame here. Set of five, $15.95. Snug life macrame wall hanging shelf. What is up with all the macrame?

What is this, 1973? What's happening you're gonna you need beads to put in your doorway too what the fuck is going on here listen maybe they got a lot of mid-century modern shit in their house they're trying to match it maybe three tier wall shelves it is 55 for macrame shelves macrame shelves to fuck out of here for that that's what it's in there and then a unstuffed handmade moroccan round foots it's a fucking ottoman it's like a a hand stuffed one a smushy ottoman uh 32.99 for that his and hers and a dog paw decorative key holder and leash hook they're uh 17.99 so they

have dogs obviously or at least a dog they'd like a visa gift card uh they have all sorts of different denomination visa gift cards i guess you can pick whichever one you want there travel takes visa they also want longhorn steakhouse gift cards for some reason it's a very odd thing you got a visa. You got a Visa gift card. Use it to your discretion. What are you doing? Yeah, use it to go to Longhorn, asshole. Silicone reusable kitchen baking cups. There's like cupcake holders that are paper, but they're silicone and reusable. Oh, you know what those are for? Those are for poaching eggs in boiling water.

They're rad. They're really great. Non-stick baking pans, uh malt like cupcake trays and shit like that uh reusable snack bags okay these are ziploc bags you can reuse for 17 so are ziploc bags yeah no shit hammock straps for 20 30 for those does he already have the hammock i believe there's a hammock on here. Eagles Nest Outfitters Double Nest Print Lightweight Hammock. $79.95 for this fucking thing. Touch control table lamp set of two.

So, little table lamps. They're like the ones in the hotel. Yeah. You can just rub your hand on them. Yeah. $49.99 for that, though. They need a laundry hamper that has color, light, and dark laundry in it here. What? Those are the three

baskets 28.99 for that you don't have you don't have fucking eyes that you can see what you put in there what are you doing sorry pick one labeled they they want mr and mrs wedding themed cornhole beanbag set oh boy the look on your face just now watch cody 1999 for that they want a mop and broom holder for 14 there's a lot of shit on here jeff gaylord was way more reasonable and these people want a lot we have heard from jeff gaylord not necessarily from him but through somebody else yeah thrilled that we took care of him uh and wants to leave it at that. Yeah, we won't say. We are going to buy a few of these things. I think I'm going to get them this Fashion Craft Vintage Double Heart Design.

It's like a cake knife for $15. It's something that you'll have for years, and it's nice and decorative here. They also want a Shark Steam Pocket Mop Hard Floor Cleaner for $70. Those are great. They are good. They are good. Yeah, they're good stuff here. They want a hubs and wife apron set.

No, I won't buy it. No one buy them that. Why does she get to be wife and he has to be hubs? What the fuck is that? Establish 2021 like they're a business. Nope. No one buy them that. It's only $20, but don't buy them that.

Smart design stacking bin pantry freezer storage organizer. Jesus, it's a lot of words. $37. A food processor for 50 bucks. A fucking tent with a 60 second instant setup. A Coleman cabin tent. 156 for that fucking thing. You can find all the things that he wanted, James.

The hammock, the tent, the fucking gift card. The Ninja Professional Countertop Blender. It's like a bartender's $110, which I've never bought a blender that was $110 before. That's a lot. So they're going for quality items here. Stainless steel mixing bowls. You got to have those. You need that for shit.

$25 for those. Oh, fucking, it's that hand-wo hand woven looks like macrame again what is it got a footstool here let me turn they love yeah i know i know exactly they love that fucking like uh uh where's morocco is that in the it's a beach community right what is it it's on the ocean yeah they love that beach beachy shit yeah that all that sort of stuff uh oh christ a hoover pro clean pet upright carpet cleaner shampooer 170 for that uh there's some cheaper ones though the ice cube trays that make the round ice cubes those are very nice those are very nice 17 bucks someone can buy them that a digital folding probe kitchen thermometer for your you items, $12.99. Turkey baster with cleaning brush.

That's important. You need that. A bathroom plastic spinning turntable beauty organizer. Holy shit. What? So they must have 700 people coming to this fucking wedding if they have all this shit on the registry. How many people are coming to this wedding? Pillows, a $30 pillow.

I'm buzzing. There's so much much double a batteries they have on here buy your own fucking batteries cody you don't put batteries in your wedding are they homeless do they have anything at all a two-bedroom apartment with uh two bath and new countertops is that what's on here too uh they don't have anything evidently cubby but i don't think they do at all instant pots on here of course a set of hangers for 30 dollars all this stuff is on here then there's a bunch of out of stock stuff they want to oscillating tower fans and refillable uh lamp bases and shit like that. Oh, God. And the Joanna Gaines book, Magnolia Table. No one buy them that either. Buy whatever else they want.

I got news for you, Cody. What was her name? Coons? First name? Yeah, I don't remember what her first name was. Either way, they don't have enough to get married right now. Gabriella. Gabriella and Cody.

You got to work a little harder before you get to get married. This is bullshit. This is a lot here, Gabriela. A kitchen conversions thing. That's actually good. A pepper mill. That's something you could buy. Anything.

Well, we're going to help these people out here. We'll get them something. Especially since we made fun of them. We're going to get them something here. They don't need to get married yet. They don't have a pot to piss in. They could be 60 years old, these two people. We we have no idea so we feel bad for that cody back to the cody we don't feel bad for um so he was approximately halfway into probation he ends up now admitting that he violated terms

of the deal by drinking alcohol missing probation officers and oh yeah going on the lamb to another country as well um he said that he feared he would be rearrested. So he told the court that's why he fled to Canada. He said he made, you know, he said he didn't mean for it to all happen. Didn't want to be the number one most wanted fugitive in Texas. And the judge says, well, you were you, sir, may fuck off 12 years in prison. Great. Not suspended, not probation in the fucking joint.

Yeah. But he must serve three years before he's eligible for parole. That's great. So at least three years, something. It's fucking prison for this asshole. The district attorney requested a 20 year sentence. Good. And the defense attorney requested two years

which is the minimum so one request of the minimum one request of the maximum and the judge said we think he's in the middle he's an asshole plus two there you go so he's uh sentenced there for having an improper relationship he's got to serve three years um he the the prosecutor said he is satisfied with the length of the sentence he said we, we asked for more and would have liked more, but the judge made a fair decision. He knew the history of the case and how the individual came into being in Canadian custody. In other words, beating the shit out of his girlfriend. Right. Um, Ledbetter does have the option to appeal, but not, but has not at this time.

Um, so they must, uh, wait until an appeal is concluded before prosecuting ledbetter and johnson county the other charges because they're reinstating those two uh they could ask for a sentence of two to twenty years to run concurrently or consecutively with this one so he could end up getting 20 actual 20 years 10 and 10 and then end up doing five six years um they did say the charges against him included immigration uh in canada there um the his lawyer said that is cody always had the intention of turning himself in without any incident or confrontation with the police obviously so this is then then he goes to jail in 2011 like we said um he gets out sometime before September 2015. So he does less than four years.

That we do know for this. We know he's out for a fact because on September 5th, 2015, he is found dead after he hanged himself in a shed. Wow! That's the ending that you kind of need from that holy shit yep so his psychology is i can't have any of that stuff i want and i can't feel like i like so fuck it where's the shed and the rope i'm going in there. Holy shit. Yep. 42 years old. Hanged himself in a shed.

Oh my God. What a story. That's fucking crazy. Pronounced dead at 826 AM. That's that. Dead as a fucking doornail. Can't get enough? I think we've had enough.

I think we've had enough. You can buy. Who the fuck is selling? Someone's selling Cody Ledbetter football cards. Are you buying a pedophile's football card? I'm not. They're $4, $3. Nobody wants them.

Fuck this guy. Fuck Cody Ledbetter. Shut up, Cody. That is Cody Ledbetter. Cody Ledbetter told himself to shut up. He said, shut up, Cody. And then he jumped off the stool. Jumped off the stool yeah he kicked the stool out from under himself wow so i mean normally we hate obviously we don't like suicide and all that we don't want anybody to kill themselves but i don't like i really don't

like it when people fuck teenage girls either that they're supposed to be in charge of so i don't feel and then punch pregnant women until they get bloody and stagger around to fucking something about that makes me not give a shit. I don't know what it is. Is there is it do you think the desperation of like finding that nobody wants him anymore and he finally felt shame? Or do you think it was just like he finally understood? Oh, my God, I'm a horrible person. No, I think he was a loser and a nobody. And once he got out of prison

it was even worse and he had a stigma on him yeah i think he was a pedophile and a woman beater and he's this and he's that and i think he couldn't live without adulation from something and somewhere and he just couldn't do it and he was like well this isn't exactly perfect like i wanted it to be so that's it he didn't have the he just didn't have the toughness to he didn't have the toughness he did in high school when his finger was hurt he said i'm gonna sit out for a fanger like he couldn't rebuild his life and say i'm not gonna fuck kids and i'm gonna be a better person and i'm gonna you know rebuild my shit like he couldn't do it so anyway there he is so if you like that story yeah that was a crazy story i gotta say if you enjoyed that story tell the world

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i'm saying yeah so either way we're gonna do that it's gonna be hilarious to hear about how do you have 14 kids with 11 women this is fucking ridiculous unbelievable so we'll talk about that and then for the small town murder one we're gonna do something a little bit different and crazy don't worry we're gonna go back to weird dark stuff uh then the next bonus it'll be about the hillside stranglers and some stuff there but for this one we're going to have some fun and we are going to read reviews bad reviews one star reviews from terrible small town motels and businesses in general just like uh small town businesses that have gone awry yeah and i'll try to find ones that are closed so we don't like you know harp and and ruin pile on business yeah further pile on to

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Yeah. So we're diving right in, but we're diving in. We're not putting a bunch of shit on our back first. We know we can swim with this on. So we have Game of Crimes is the first we know we can swim yeah with this on so we're we're we have uh game of crimes is the first one and uh that's coming out very soon the trailer is up right now and it's amazing steve murphy and uh morgan wright and steve murphy is uh the guy from he's the blonde guy from narcos not the actor but the guy that the actor is playing so real guy

the real guy so they you know it's it's it's wild and then and then uh morgan was a you know a cop forever too and uh kansas law dog and everything else so telling you these guys are hilarious they break out they break each other's balls a lot too they're not like well i'm a perfect cop and you're this and that they're they're very self-deprecating they're hilarious and they have a lot of people on that you wouldn't expect to. They have like, you know, detectives that work behind the scenes on a serial killer case for something. And then they'll also have a Colombian hitman from a prison somewhere talking to him as well because they know the guy. And now they're, you know, they're not pals, but they're kind of pals.

You know, they know shit like that. They know some things about each other. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to get just points of view that you're not going to get anywhere. These guys work so, like, they're really good at, like, the research. They're meticulous about putting it together. Like it was a case against Pablo Escobar, for Christ's sake.

That's how meticulous they are. They goddamn care. Game of Crimes, check it out right now. The trailer's up. Rate and review it and help them, What's the word I'm looking for? Beat the fucking. Help them premiere high on the charts, please. I was just guessing more.

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I need to hear good things. Tell me good things. Tell me shit. I don't want to say shut up, Jimmy, like shut up, Cody, because you're going to tell me the best. You're going to tell me the list of my favorite fucking people on the face of the earth. Jimmy, hit me with them now. This week's executive producers are Kevin Spilker, Rebecca, and Travis Isley. They're celebrating their 20th anniversary.

Oh, congrats. Chelsea Hanson of Bean Love Sanctuary. It's a cat rescue. I don't know where it's at, but Bean Love. Yeah. Little beans. Little baby beans. It's kittens.

Oh, okay. Little baby kittens. I thought it was a coffee place. Also, Jordan Bennett. She's terrific. And Simon. I love you guys. Oh, okay. I thought it was a coffee place. Also, Jordan Bennett. She's terrific. And Simon. I love you guys. Both of them.

Penis Rodriguez Jr. III, James. There's three of those. Oh, all right. Well, three penises. Excellent. Tripod. Also, John McCarthy turned 30. Not Big John.

Just regular John. Happy birthday, John. Thomas DeMello is stationed in Germany right now. Be safe out there, buddy. Hey, definitely. I think he's stationed. He may not be in the military. Oh, he's just in Germany?

Either way, there's not a lot of war going on in Germany at the moment, so he should be okay. I made a wild-ass assumption, though. He's just in the military. Carl Kirschner, Alexandria Krewitz? I don't know. I'm going to say itruitkiewicz? I don't know. I'm going to say it. I'm going to be honest. I don't know.

Jude Kendall. Be real honest with you. Jude Kendall sent the ladle to the Gay Lords. Thank you. Elizabeth Earle's husband, I think. Aaron Earle, I would assume. I don't know if she took his last name, but it's his birthday. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday. Georgia Bucall. Susanna Platt. Janice Hill. Jessica Finch. Dustin's wife, Dani, got out of the hospital. I think it was his birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Also, Georgia Bucall, Susanna Platt, Janice Hill, Jessica Finch, Dustin's wife, Danny, got out of the hospital. I think it was his wife. May have been his mom. Somebody close to Dustin named Danny. He might be in the military.

He might not. We don't know anything. Danny got out of the hospital. Yay! Hey! Dixon Mouth Hugs and Sharon Mahols. I hope you're proud of yourself for that. Both of them.

Right. Jennifer Stevens, Sarah Caudell, Maude Finlay, Christine Strawberry Destin, Destiny, Destine, Christine Destine, Christine McGregor, also Sexual Chocolate. That's got to be. Sexual Chocolate, everybody. I love Eddie Murphy. Sarah Surridge and Frank Sidebottom. Rabbi Shmulalovich had a finger amputated because it was squashed by the car.

Douglas C. Niedermeyer, Sergeant of Arms in Omega House, of course. Augustus Galoup, also, pride of Dusseldorf. Steve Schnell, Lisa Bianca Lana. Bianca Lana? Bianca Batuca. Yeah. Sarah Lee. Obviously the best pound cake.

John Leon Magnato. Rob Roberts. Bob Bob's, obviously. Maria Rasper. James Marder. Liz Vasquez. Leah and TJ are getting married this weekend. James, congratulations.

Congrats to you. Enjoy your day. Lisa Tucker. Frank the South African bird washer, washer or watcher? I don't know if he washes them. Either way. Are you washing them? Give them a little bath.

He just grabs them and holds them. I washed that one off good now. He just puts it on. Is that South African? I don't know. It's a weird one. It's like in between. It's like a pinched Australian.

It's a weird accent. Amanda Van Hinsburg. Jesus. Ashley Vio. Garrett with no last name. He actually wrote with no last name. AJ. Ricky with no last name. Jake Bird. King Rusty. Anne-Marie Metzler. Mike

with no last name. Oski Dumhalt. Diana Trippi. Corinne with no last name. Trudy Jones. Nathaniel McCarthy. Aaron Kathleen. Pedro Marquez. Iceman. Brian Vickers.

Sue Johnson. Zachary Hall. Catherine Gross. Ian Gibson. Jordan Fahey. Joshua Giacino. Ben Vanden Dreisen. Salvador Cordero.

Cynthia O'Connell. Raphael. With no last name. Stephanie Kay. Rachel Mosley. Emmanuel Matanzo, Matanzo, yes, Delgado, Emma Kernock, I'm second guessing myself, even when I'm right. Go, Jimmy, go.

You got this. Mike Pro, oh boy, Crocs, that's not right. Lori Blanchard, Jesse K. Keegan, Ashley Bird, Victor Kostov. Victor Kostov. That is Russian as fuck. Becky Galitko, Sarah Lezzi. Boy, oh boy. Gaetano Mule, Brandon Bowles. Nicky, no last name. He's got a mule on him, that Gaetano. TJ Rossiter, McKenna Lee Wright, Mateo Aristides, Parada, Misty Monlux, Ashlyn, nope, that's Alicia, Alicia, Gavernick, Naomi Ross,

Andrew, no last name, Dano Steenkamp, Terry Plaster, Madison Morissette, Ernest Lowry, Sylvan Gamble, Laura Bjorn, Bjorg, Bjorn, Laura Bjorg Bjornsdoter. That was a good one. So many Bjors. That was a good one. So many Bjorns. That's a lot. Zachary Leatherwood. Connor Hession. Caleb Crawdaddy.

Jacob Johnson. Stacey Makeley. Goldie 1692. Ashley Hoitima. What is that? God damn it. Dante with no last name. Jessica Roberson. Roberson. KMlovesKW, James.

Erica Hoops, Ryan, I think, with no last name. Perky Priest Morales, Prudence with no last name. Brian Einloth, Courtney McCullough, Shanna, and Laura. No last names for either of them. Samuel Lucero, Joe Renfro. I'm doing my best. They're confident. They don't need last names. I know who I am. That would be amazing if they just did just first names. I think I would still stumble. Is that me? I don't know. Kristen Agard, Essence Beasley, Julia Ponce, I think.

Ponce like DeLeon. JT, Brandi Brooks, Brett Osborne, Aaron Anderson, Torn Priddle, Emily Jackson, Max Clark, Kenneth Mayo, Anthony Kanonika, Scott Bowes, Scuba Gear Service, Andy X, Courtney Cladgett, Derek Pogue, Chelsea with no last name, and Jamie with no last name, Joseph Kramer, Poem a Day, Luke, no last name, Adorkable Sars, Shelly Urban, Amanda Huber, Rosanna Brown, Stephanie Boych, Angelia Berkowitz. Good God. Why is that a tough one? Confusing one. Eric Sterling, Christy Goodman, Mary Sider. She's back. Kyle Statz, Darth Jotner, Sarah Nelson, Stephanie Owen, Tom Panos, Kalia Holt, Tiffany Bogus, Alexa Price, Julianne Wilson, Libby Gendel, Healthcare Coalition Partners of Kansas, Ed LeWalk, Levi Robinson, Meeg75, Selena, Selena, Zanella, Aaron Combs, Aaron Combs, Catherine Kresser, Jessica Westfall, Angela Boder, Anna Salerno, Christina Womack,ack Chris Evans Not the Captain America guy I don't think

Melanie Fleeman Jessica Stewart Cassandra Meyer Erica Carlson Mike with no last name Holland Sourd Janae McSwain Angela Carlow

Jana Falconor Julie Templeton Fuck Casey Passmore T.E. Sarah James Jason Rowan Nathan Bowie Sean Rice Bradley Craig Julie Templeton. Fuck. Casey Passmore. T.E. Sarah James. Jason Rowan.

Nathan Bowie. Sean Rice. Bradley Craig. Carly with no last name. Dr. Spicy Brinza. That's it. Okay. Fuck.

Karen Stanley. Neil Jezik. Laura Thornton. Sean with no last name. Bob Ackley. Alicia with no last name, Alexandria Murillo, Rachel Barker, Matt Gigliotta, Alison Sellers, Shane and Miranda Kredermacher, Carrie DeCiccio, nope, DeCiccio, DeCiccio, it's Italian as fuck.

DeCiccio or DeCicco. I think it's DiCicco. Cheyenne with no last name. Abby Karpowitz. Jennifer M. Martha Karpagian. Oh, my God. Yoshi Yasukado.

Thomas Smith. Morgan, no last name. Mark Head. Sarah T. Caleb Hargis. Randy with no last name. Esteban lost his password, so he started a new one. Thank you, Esteban.

Oh, thank you. Scary Crap. Boy, oh boy. Jeffrey Smith. Sauce with no last name. Jack Steiner. Carrie Gordon. Matt Bankert.

Yvonne Lanzote. Lanzo. Trista Ohlendorf. Sean Boyle. Elizabeth Hammond. Carla Bossier. Bossler. Mia Charisma. it's Charisma.

What the fuck is happening? Ryan Zeider. Charizo almost. Harrison Hodge, Carolyn Oching, Ochi, Ochiang, Ochiwala, Ochiwang, Ray Allen, probably not the four talents, Octopapa, Jim with no last name amy mulligan cuddly pie bomb and hannah dance laura thomas joseph nope that's joseph sup sufflage i'm sorry joseph uh matt renfro philip waddle mckenna lundy waspy mctavish mctavish antiopi graham cooper james anderson griffin m shania ziegler uh patrick mccauley tom nope that's ted perron uh taylor powell josh josh peters denise

fonger the fucking amount of french in this shit this week is bananas did we go crazy in france dakota ledbetter what there's a ledbetter oh no shut up cody martha o'farrell uh what is this uh bernie carr 18 will and redneck vincent perham evan miller zach smith i'm at uh am kapetapara laura wilson Jody Dyer, T. Rose, Jeremy Thomas, Roy Fish, Colton Cochran, Abaggo, what? Abaggo, Abagadragonite. That's what that is. I don't know what a dragonite is.

Oh, it's a fucking, that's a rock, right? I think it is. It's a mineral. Angela Ward, Laurel with no last name, Courtney M., Shauna Penn, Sam with no last name, Sarah Johnson, Gemma Huffer, Megan Rosenberg, Matt Randy. Nope, that's Brittany. Hughes, Tulsa Collins, Amanda Taylor, Christ on a crutch.

What is this? Christ. Brittany the Macho Man Savage. Chris Rosenhauser-Hibbard, Aaron Rodgers Pornstache, Brian Tomac, Gabrielle Frame, Owen Rector. Damn near killed. What? I think I wrote that in. name. Micah B., Kendra Peterson, Hannah McPherson, Melvin Payne, Sarah Gamble, Amarinda Schumer,

Carrie Allen, Ellen McKay, Carly with no last name, Nikki McQuinn, Sylvie N., Kylie Burge, Jess with no last name, Kara Hurt, Vincent Graham, Christine Scott, Amanda, nope, that's Adam, Iannetti, God damn it, Mandy Viscuzzi, so many Italian, Jesse Hiller, Colleen Ishiyama, Colette, sorry, Mariette Wagger, Christine Handorf, Dylan Crandall, Kristen Mortar, Saren Goodwin, Sean Burton, Darnell Swallow, Rebecca Legger, Alex Norris, Jonathan Walsh, Alex Norris, Jonathan Walsh, Keisha Campbell, Ada Evans, Venus Logan, Glenn Cavaco, Cassidy Stetcher, Tegwin Feldbush, Corey Kramer, Alicia Devane, Jared with no last name, Catherine Barnes-Samantha with no last name, Jason McClain, Rachel with no last name. Mark Magyar. Nying.

Nying. NG. I don't know, man. I'm doing my best. Flossie May. Laura Blakeslee. Spontan. Spontan.

Spontani Moose. Brandon. Brendan. Holdorfer. El Volge. Cameron Mitchell. Shelby Papp. Maddie with no last name.

Melissa Weinstock. Wayne York. And a lady Maddie with no last name, Melissa Weinstock, Wayne York, and a lady named Renee with no last name, and all of our patrons. You guys, thank you so much for making that so difficult on me. Thank you, everybody. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. We appreciate everything you do for us.

Honestly, whether it's tell someone about the show, listen to the show, you know go in the full dive in and getting into patreon we just appreciate the shit out of it from everybody thank you thank you for all of your support through everything here and hopefully you'll continue that support through to the new network and all that sort of thing and we just we just really appreciate the shit out of it jimmy what if they wanted to tell you how much they possibly appreciate you? How could they do that? You can find me on the internet.

Ask at WismanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N sucks, on Twitter and Instagram. You guys are truly the most amazing people. Where can they find you, James? You can find me. At Jimmy P is funny. You can just look. Or you can just Google the show and we'll both pop up and you can find us that way. It's pretty easy.

You can find me. You know how to find podcasts. You can find a person. That's way easier. So do that. Find us. Follow. Keep listening. Holy shit. Don't diddle any teenagers though. That's one thing we ask of you. I swear to Christ.

Please don't do that. And before we go, I must just say, shut up Cody. And after that, live from the Crime and Sports Studios, we will see you next week. Bye. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.