Crime in Sports - #272 - Battered Bloody Brutality - The Temperamentalness of "Torpedo" Tony Demers

Episode Date: September 21, 2021

This week, we look at the story of a man, who did everything he could do to drink, and party his way out of the sport of hockey, but his talent kept him always employed. He had so much going on, that it's hard to describe his crazy life, but let's just say that his career finally ended when he carried a bloody, beaten, unconscious & nude woman into a hospital, with quite an unbelievable story to go with it! An old timey story, that will leave you wanted to leave "the good old days" right where they are! Wild stuff!  Never get behind the wheel without a pint of your favorite whiskey, say you don't know how the nude, bloody woman got into your car, and stick to your story that she jumped from a moving vehicle, rather than that you beat her to death with your fists with Tony Demers!! Check us out, every Tuesday! !We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurder See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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so if they can't obviously it's a little harder to make it from australia to a live show yeah let's get into this though today okay because we have quite the episode black and white days talk about joseph antonio demers yeah okay and he's not italian joseph antonio i'm like joey anthony and he's not italian what are you kidding me but he's not he's a french guy um they his nick name tony demers is his what he's known as and tony he goes by the middle name his nicknames are either torpedo tony oh known for his he's known as like the hardest slap shot in hockey up until the time he was around basically yeah he was like a ridiculously hard slap shot and a very very good score but a complete fucking disaster of a human being an absolute just I mean a drunk

and uh just a louse and a liar. You had to use louse because that's a good, like, 40s word. He's just a disaster as a human being, as a person. Or they called him Little Hercules. So he's tough. He's a hockey player, yeah. He's a goddamn hockey player that played in the 30s and 40s. They didn't even have helmets back then.

Those guys, they didn't require helmets until like 1989, I want to say, or 91 or some shit. That's fucking insane. That's crazy. And then the guys who were in the league before the rule was passed were grandfathered in.

So you'd see guys in the late 90s still with no goddamn helmet on skating around and playing hockey. Nothing. What? Nothing. No shield, no helmet, just skating around. Back nothing no nothing no shield no helmet just skating around back then the goalies didn't wear helmets jimmy with your whole livelihood just

sitting out there the goalie the goalie didn't have a helmet on back then frozen puck just standing there i think they had a face mask but it was very minimal i mean you get hit in the head with a puck 10 times a game wow that's the level of concussion we're fucking dealing with here it's uh this is a this is rugged fuck concussions james that's a fractured skull you will die yeah imagine how tough you had to be to survive as an nhl goalie for 15 years that's insane yeah or dumb i don't know which is worse yeah Well, I mean, just to survive, you'd have to be incredibly tough just to not get killed. But on top of that, fuck stupid to want to do it. And so little Hercules, because, and his height is somewhat of a thing that's always in discrepancy.

He's like Charles Manson when it comes to that. I'm going to touch home a little bit here, Jimmy, so you should maybe cover your ears and do a la la la la here, because this applies to you as well. But his height is listed everywhere from 5'7 to 5'10. Okay, so he's 5'7. So I was going to say, so it's 5'7. When a man's height is described, any discrepancy, it's the shortest one by far. So he's 5'7, but he's maybe on skates he's 5'10". I'll bet he is.

5'9", I don't know. But it goes up to 5'10", when they're trying to make him sound good. So yeah, in court he's 5'10", when he's imposing. But then other times he's 5'7". So he's born July 22, 1917. Oh my. Yeah, 1917. Oh, my. Yeah. This is like, wow.

Serious. Some serious, serious. I mean, just, you know, the end of World War I, for Christ's sake. That's an elderly man. Yes. Older than all of our grandparents and everything like that. That's old, man. That's really old.

Holy shit. Really is. Yeah. Shit. There's still like a good amount of horses on the street when this is happening he could be my grandfather's dad yeah that's what i mean this is like this is old man so uh and we can say that because normally we don't want to insult any of our listeners if they're older but i don't think we have any of them that are 104 so if we do no insult hats off

salute you and if any if we have any listeners over 100 Hats off. Salute you. And if we have any listeners over 100, if anybody puts the phone up to their grandmother's ear or something, first of all, hello. Hi. Hello. Thank you for listening, number one. You've done your job. You have permission to rest. That is awesome.

And if you have anyone over 100 listening, we will send them something. So tell us about it. At Crime and Sports, tell us about it, and we'll definitely do that. So he's born in Chambly, Quebec, Canada. Oh. Which sounds... Chambly, Quebec, yeah. Yeah, it sounds wonderful. And it's weird because we had the small-town murder where the victim was from Canada last week.

And it's very very we're having all these weird eastern canadian ties to this shit now this week i don't know what's happening so uh that was the live show sorry that wasn't the show last week if you missed it sorry about that you don't know what we're talking about so it's an it's a suburb of montreal this is it's um is montreal an island i didn't know that uh Montreal is just right there on the border it's so close to New York I they call it an off island suburb I maybe it's like away from it some maybe it's not an island but they mean like the area I don't know what I don't know anything about the island I don't know I don't know anything about Montreal I really don't

uh but yeah it was uh it's it's changed its name a bunch of times back and forth. Right now there's about 30,000 people there, but when Tony was born in 1917, this was a really, really small place. This was not a big place at all. I mean, I'm sure, I don't know, I'm sure hockey was very prominent, though. I don't think there's ever been a time that hockey wasn't prominent in canada no and the montreal canadians have always been really big and at this point as we'll talk about the nhl only has eight teams when he starts and two of them are in montreal so it's it is serious hockey time here man not fucking around yeah they're not messing around so um i his childhood i don't know much

about it because it's not very documented and uh it was so long ago as a matter of fact and i could easily have made up something very ridiculous but i feel like it would be too obvious on this one just with the old timiness i could have made up. Think about my options here. Every other one I make up is like. One time in Canada, you'd have to research to make up a fake story. Not even. I could just make some. But I mean, I could have made. I could have just made up shit about the time period.

It would have been amazing. You know, if they didn't have this, so they had to do this. Normally, I'm working with like the 70s. I got to be real creative. But with this, I mean, they could have not had any kind of electricity. They could have not had plumbing. He could have had to do... Think about the possibilities, Jimmy.

Could have built a Titanic there. Who knows? I mean, oh my God. I'm just thinking about, just talking about the things he had to do to go to the bathroom as a child. He had to go into the woods. I'd be upset that I already used the grizzly bear lie on the other hockey players i'd be like shit any bear him encountering a bear and like you know beating it to death with a newspaper under his arm as he goes to take a shit would have been wonderful but we couldn't do that

you know so animal attacks would have been out but there's been a lot i could have made up i feel like with this um you know a special relationship with the family horse um not sexual but like you know it was his friend i would have certainly gone there i was gonna say eventually it would have turned sexual you know that i would i would have gotten bestiality and yeah like that's his first crime is um he had a a long-term sexual relationship with a with a male horse um not that the gender matters but it's just specific we like to give we like to give a lot of info here well that would mean that he really was like he he saw that cock one too many times and finally said i gotta have it i just gotta have it

i have to see how much i can get i gotta see uh what i can do here so he grows up playing hockey that we do know and uh being a very good local player in canada back then and even now there's about 700 000 hockey leagues yeah it's you know the hockey leagues are everywhere and when you look through the newspapers back then for like hockey stuff it's just page after page of hockey results of this league and that league and this league you're like holy shit it's it's wild man it's it's nice time james it's all they care about it's like college basketball in north carolina or some shit it's the craziest thing they're really you know which i get it i mean that's the their national obsession so i understand and uh but it hasn't waned at all like back then they used to in the

united states they'd speak of like baseball with this fervor and that's like not anymore no now it's football because it's more gambleable but canada they that is their national pastime and they are not letting it go they love it so in 1935 let's catch up with tony he is 18 years old at that point so um he's endured the hardships of a early 20th century rural canadian upbringing really could just hitler's rising hitler's rise and just give him basically uh uh what's his name brian spinnerinner Spencer's backstory. Just give him that. That's the same thing probably. So he ends up playing for the Montreal La Fontaine. I don't know what the hell that is. It's the Montreal Junior Hockey League.

And he only plays in one game there in 35-36. I don't know if they tried him out the last game of the season or if he didn't make the cut. I don't know if they tried him out the last game of the season or if they uh if they he didn't make the cut or i don't know what the deal is here but he played one game and he got stolen away because he was so good maybe but he doesn't play again until the next at least 20 which is weird i don't know if maybe he played in some off league that they didn't keep track of or what but uh he played one game and had one goal so that seems impressive i mean if you got a kid and he's 18 he comes in in his first game and scores a goal i think you want to want him to hang around probably yeah i would imagine

the other thing about tony though the problem is that you can't put logic into it as far as oh one game maybe he was stolen away that would be logical but he could have just gotten shit-faced and not showed up for a month because that's another thing he does he's extremely unpredictable not reliable um very talented i mean the talent this guy will fuck up and they'll keep bringing him back because his talent level is unbelievable if you have a guy that can score the way he scores and like to the point of you know defenses take notice of him and he's a he's a problem for them you're gonna keep finding a place for that guy and uh they do the silver comes out big time uh in hockey in canada the silver haired middle-aged white men are like rampant because

they're so you know into it as we've talked about with hockey before and that's tony's thing is booze he loves booze oh he's a big boozer. Oh, he's a he's a swinger, Tony. He's a he's a swing in good time. He likes to booze and drive his big old giant cars around and do damage with those and hurt people. Oh, no. Oh, he's got problems.

So 1937, 1938. So I don't know what happened to 36 37 that season i'm not sure i'm not sure where that disappeared too he could have slept through it i'm not sure what happened honestly anything's possible with this fucking guy 26 yeah he's like what oh jesus what team am i on again yeah god everybody get in my room and he's like in full uniform skates on on the ice holding his dick locker room so shit oh damn oh i'm on the ice now okay that's these people all they paid to get in jesus i was confused i was wondering why they all had hot dogs and shit i was like what's going on there's

poutine ever poutine everywhere so i gave him a southern accent, even though he's from Montreal. Solid. I like it. Why not? They have hicks up there. They do. I don't think they sound like that in rural Montreal. No. No.

But you get it. It's the panhandle accent. You understand it. So 37-38, he plays for the New Haven Eagles. I believe that's in Connecticut. It's the IAHL Hockey League here, International whatever. He plays in five games for them that year. And no goals, no assists, no anything like that.

So the reason, though, that there is no goals or assists or anything is because he ends up on the Montreal Canadiens after only five games. Yeah, he gets signed to the Canadiens. Apparently, that's where he was. I'm sorry. He played for Montreal when he was 18. Then the 36-37 season, he went to France and played in a Parisian hockey league in France, which sounds made up, but it's not. Sounds like I was going to tell

you all about his summer in france and he was wandering around eating baguettes and wearing berets but no that's not where i'm going i'm picking up french chicks slinging dick and being afraid of hitler that's what was going on in 37 36 37 there's a white flag in his back pocket just in case here is my penis have you heard about the hitler we are very very scared oh no not the hit there very very scared of that um so he played there and um it's a i don't know what the fuck he's doing here um he ends up back in France at one point, I know, because he ends up on the Canadians in 37, okay? 37, 38. And people are very excited about him. One of his teammates said, this Tony, this Tony over here, he said, can be a good hockey player.

He is really the strongest guy I ever see and those wrists of his they are terrific he has some shot i tell you that the trouble with this tony he tries to use that shot so much he's forgetting how to play hockey he's got a rocket slap shot that's all he wants to do is just hit these crazy shots and everyone's like hey get some fucking fires yeah uh this guy goes on to say all this guy thinks about when he gets the puck is to shoot. This is okay for the amateurs, and he will score plenty like that. But in the NHL, the goalers, they will brush aside those shots like mosquitoes. Someday, Tony will get wise and then watch that guy go. He is just ready to fucking do it.

They said he was, they really liked, they put on a on a line that they liked and they said he's going to be he's going to be a badass basically so 37 38 he plays in six games that's all i know no other stats here the team itself goes 18 17 and 13 which sounds like a very boring year to watch that is so many ties it's a 13 ties oh god it's a lot of ties and that would happen very often but 18 17 and 13 is just you have a pretty much equal chance of anything happening when you go there so i guess it's unpredictable um i looked up their their uh their roster and i'm just fascinated that there are people on this roster that he plays with this year that are born in 1901. 01. Nobody in the 1800s, which I was disappointed about.

But 1901, he's playing with people here. And there's a guy named Toe on this team. Really? T-O-E. Toe Blake. Second guy ever. Yeah, that I know. At least that was this team. Really? T-O-E, Toe Blake. The second guy ever. Yeah, that I know. At least that was a nickname.

I don't know if this is a nickname. Wilf? There's a guy named Wilf. W-I-L-F. Yeah, like a wolf I'd like to fuck. Yeah. A Wilf. Like a worm.

Yeah, anything. It goes however you want. I got a man named Polly on the team polly drew in um i'm just looking for funny old timey p-o-l-l-y or p-a-u-l-l-y p-o-l-l-y no like dolly's friend polly can't do that it's very funny all these people but anyway 1901 here uh There's people on his team, which fucking trips me out, man. That's just wild. So he after like six games, they shit can him and they send him down to the minors. And and when he sent down to the minors, he breaks his leg immediately. So that was a that was a problem.

So he was out all of that season and the next year. And basically that was that. They everybody So he was out all of that season and the next year. And basically that was that. Everybody thought he was done. He went up to the Canadians. They didn't like him. They shipped his ass back down. And that was it. And there's so little teams, but there's eight teams.

So it's not like there's no room. If you go up and they don't like you, that's it. You're done pretty much. They'll get the next guy and you're out. And that story is complete. There are tons of careers that end like that yeah and then he's sitting in a bar you know 10 years from then going i played for the canadians for five games and people are impressed with that you know what i mean but that's that's what it was broke my leg i'd be back yeah i mean i broke my leg they would have brought me back they said they were going to

bring me down for a little bit but then i broke my damn leg and it was all over for me. So instead, though, they end up, he's back in the minors and he tries to work his way back up after this. So most guys, they said they just quit after that. That was it. They'd be done. But he actually tries to work his way back up and um i have to give you the list of the eight teams in the league by the way i can't wait uh we have there's only eight like i said so i think most everybody makes the playoffs otherwise it's not a playoff really it's just another series uh we have in the canadian division there's the canadian and the american division four each that's all you got the the Maple Leafs, Toronto. Toronto Maple Leafs. The New York Americans, who obviously don't exist anymore.

The Montreal Canadiens, who still exist. The Montreal Maroons, who definitely don't exist anymore. That is hilarious. There's a lot of teams named the Maroons back then. Really? I believe there was an NFL team in the 20s named the Maroons, as it was uh i believe there was an nfl team in the 20s named the maroons as a matter of fact too yeah i think it's hilarious because i watched warner brothers and bugs bunny everybody that was an idiot was a maroon yeah a maroon yeah what a maroon i love

bugs bunny so they just named themselves the idiots yeah the idiots the montreal i'm sure that's not what it means but whatever it's bug once bugs bunny co-ops and it's over for you you've ruined it who else is more popular culture in 1948 than fucking bugs bunny you know you're done mister you're done then the american division you got the boston broons the new york rangers the chicago blackhawks and the detroit red wings who all still exist we're one of the first teams. Yeah, yeah. They're one of the old-timeies. Yeah, they're going to put a team in Boston back then.

Boston's a, you know, back in the day especially was a very important city. And then obviously New York has two teams, for Christ's sake. I don't know how New York has a team in the Canadian division. That's what I don't get. I think they had five and three, and they just had to even it out. So they have the New York Americans and the New York Idiots? The New York Rangers. Montreal has the Canadians and the Maroons.

Oh, they've got two. Got it. So, yeah, out of the eight teams, four of them come from two cities. So that's a thing. And, by the way, there's five American teams and three Canadian teams. So I don't know why, like,adians are always saying how and we love the canadians but they're always like oh the americans are stealing it there was always more american teams what do you want like i don't know there's more people here i think that's why like 10 times

as many i think so that's probably why there's more teams there's just more people to watch them even though you guys are way more supportive of it obviously and way more into it than we are that's got to piss them off like we have all these teams and we're just like i don't know i'm not watching that and they're like awful no thanks fuckers yeah that's gotta hurt i would say probably sorry canada you know what i'm on your side again you should be mad at us you're like n. You put a team in Nashville. They don't care. Fuck you. Phoenix. Dallas. Dallas has a hockey team.

Why? You think they like hockey more in Phoenix and Winnipeg for real? Probably not. So, yeah. Anyway, he plays for a couple different teams that year. He plays for from 38, 39 when his leg starts to heal 39 40 41 42 yeah he's playing for uh uh the lasheen rapid repeaters i guess that means they're fast i don't know in french i'm not sure uh he scored in 29 games he scores 24 goals and has 12

assists though so it's pretty fucking good, I think. Not bad at all. 36 points in 29 games. So we'll take it. And then he plays for the Valley Field Braves. And that is 35 games, 30 goals, 23 assists, which is fantastic. And he also plays for the Valley Field Vs. So Valley Field has a lot of hockey teams. That's probably Quebec, right?

I guess. I mean, I'm sure it's Canada somewhere if they have that many goddamn hockey teams. So 1940, he makes it back to Montreal. Okay. Now, this is a big deal. Like in the newspaper, there's big articles. One of them says he's, I'll just read right from this article quote tony is the only player in the national hockey league at present and probably the only one in

the professional game to rejoin the amateur ranks after failing to make a go of it as a pro and then to take another stab at the at the professional game and make good they're saying he's the like the only guy to have done what he, which is the most common thing in sports right now. Kind of burns out, comes back. How many baseball players do you hear about that? The comeback story is beautiful. You love seeing it. Number one draft pick smoked crack so he couldn't pitch anymore.

And then eight years later, he's starting all over again. And then he makes his major league comeback. Just a Josh Hamilton story, essentially. Happens all the time. The one that Johnny Manziel can't wait for he's still looking forward to it yeah he's like it's coming don't worry yeah not for quarterbacks it doesn't work for quarterbacks so yeah they're making a huge deal the start of the article is when you think of it uh if you do think of it the strange case of tony demers ranks with some of the greatest mysteries of our time.

That's the intro to this. He's the only player in the league that has done this. This is how much of a huge deal it is that he's done this. The greatest mystery. The greatest mystery. It goes on to say, generally, when a young hockey player can't make good as a pro, he regains his amateur card and is through for all time with the big money game done he's just going to be an amateur player forever the player himself generally figures that way and the men who handle the cash in the nhl think along the same lines that's why tony

demmer's case is so unusual unable to show the stuff in his first try demmers went back to the amateur ranks kept plugging so hard that his efforts once again earned him attention from the pro scouts, signed with a big league club, and is making good this time. I still don't understand where the mystery is. I mean, you explained

how it happened. Apparently no one else has done that. Everyone else if you don't make it, I guess. Plus I think too, maybe in Canada they're more polite about it it like when they tell you you're cut they're like oh okay then they just go home like oh then they tell i don't want to be rude and like hang around and try to they're so sweet they're like give it another go and then and then nobody ever does and it's like no no i don't want to take an opportunity from another guy you know it's just uh no i'm gonna go home and uh these young fellas coming through here huh got some ice fishing to do up there and uh it's gonna be good eh that's i feel like that's the only reason for that or it's

just that's the way it was like once they saw you they didn't look at you again the scouts may be like we already know that guy fuck that guy looking for new people there's only eight teams seen him i'm not i'm not sure but this time different, different deal. His coach, Dick Irvin, he announced in December 1940 to the assembled press that Demers has what he called the hardest shot in the history of hockey. Really? That's a pretty big compliment. Apparently, this is a very legendary coach, too, who's been around a long time. Hardest shot in the history of hockey. And he praised him for not telegraphing its intended location when he released the puck. So that's important to look like you're shooting one way. Don't know where he's shooting. Like a quarterback.

You don't want to stare at your receiver all fucking time. You got to look left and throw right. Not look as you're throwing, but whatever. But there are little things here. Oh, one of the things too he puts him in his in the top in the first scoring line he puts him in so yeah they put him right out front on that scoring scoring line is uh maurice rocket richard who even i've heard of so um i don't know shit about hockey and some things but i know nothing about like 1930s 40s hockey and uh even i've heard of

rocket richard that's a that that's how famous that guy is so uh he's on a line with him it's these two guys next to each other and apparently it's a pretty badass line they also make some comments in the paper though about you know maybe his part like kind of maybe his partying is the reason why he didn't make it the first time because it's clearly not the talent. Like that's the mystery is like, well, why is he so talented now? But where the fuck was that when they got rid of him? There's no way there had to be something else to it.

Essentially, like they didn't get rid of him for his talent. They got rid of him because he's a fucking drunken idiot. And now they figured he grew up a little bit, maybe, because he was 20 at the time. And now he's older. I don't know. Real drunken maroon. What a drunken. We're going to trade him to the maroons.

He's too drunk. So I found an article here from November 25th, 1940. And it says the Canadians outplayed throughout the first two periods staged a powerful attack in the third, which earned them one goal, which sounds like not a lot for the effort. This goal scored by Tony Demers on a solo play and kept the crowd of 8500 on the edge of its seats. The Americans seeking revenge for the three to one defeat Canadians gave them at Montreal Saturday night. One through two second period. There's a dash there. I'm like, what is that?

Blah, blah, blah. The first went to Jack Peanuts O'Flaherty. Oh, Peanuts. Jack Peanuts. Hey, it's Peanuts O'Flaherty. That sounds like a joke. That sounds awesome. It's old Peanuts O'Flaherty. That sounds like a joke. That sounds awesome. It's old Peanuts O'Flaherty.

How's it going, everybody? He's got like a brogue, a terrible brogue. It's not even real. You know, it's like a fake. I'm Peanuts O'Flaherty. How you doing? It's good to see everyone here. Got a beard and everywhere he goes.

Yeah, just, hey, Peanuts over here. He's just dressed like a leprechaun all the time. He's got like the high socks. He's dressed like fucking He's just dressed like a leprechaun all the time. He's got, like, the high socks. He's dressed like fucking Payne Webber and a leprechaun mixed together. Poor bastard. Peanutsoflarity. I didn't even get that nickname. I don't even understand.

I scored a goal today. I did. And he does a dance all over the place. I don't know what it is. I wish we knew more about him because i'd love to make peanuts of flarity a regular character but i don't know anything about him except they call him a quote scrappy right winger okay so uh peanuts of flarity that's amazing old peanuts he uh anyway they said demmer's got one goal back by racing wide around

the right and cutting it in sharply to blast the puck past Earl Robertson. Several Canadian power plays then appeared to have the goalie at their mercy. There we go. Okay, so he did that. Good for him. They are saying that he's very impressive here. This season, Demers is boring in fighting for the puck all the time, rifling his bullet shot from close range. They're loving him, Jesus Christ.

This writer is really admirable here, in admiration, admiring. He uses his head, too, and employs a change of pace just to cross up the rival netminders, and he is getting goals. He sniped his fourth of the season on Saturday night to start Canadians rolling to their initial victory of the campaign. And last

night in a losing game, Tony fired home his fifth tally to stay in the van in the van, I don't know what that is, in the van as the number one goal getter to date. Oh, so he's the best one. He's

highest scorer. His penis is thick and veiny and protrudes from even through his padding that's what it's going to be next i feel like danglers that's awesome thick veiny and hard on command he snaps his fingers and it jumps to attention um so uh the improvement in demers is chiefly due to increased self-confidence as anyone with a penis that size would have the self-confidence part's true though from what they say here which in turn is due to encouragement from ervin who's the coach tony is in good shape and he's keeping in shape which is an important factor uh blah blah blah blah blah demers has all the earmarks of careful drilling and gave the

indication of the birth of the birth of a crack of a scoring combination gee there's just so much here to make so much innuendo it's so much drilling firing bullets i mean it's almost if the word the word facial's got to be in this article somewhere i I feel like. He's got shot in there a lot. A lot of shots. A lot of shots. Defense beating, which sounds like some sort of. It does, yeah. It's some sort of thing there.

Feeding. Oh, Lack was feeding Demers. There's that. Oh, he's feeding him. Oh, disgusting. He's got miles of it. Ah, disgusting. The wait is over.

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That's Lach, right? Lach, Lach, Lach, who the fuck knows? And it's Canada, too, so God only knows. Apparently, this became a very formidable line, and there's articles about how all of the amateur goalies are all so happy that they won't be seeing Tony Demers back down in the minors anytime soon and all this shit. It's pretty fucking funny. The aforementioned goaltenders aren't letting their enthusiasm make them too optimistic, however. A few years ago, they were having a recurrent heart attack every time Demers came roaring down the ice, all wound up and ready to let go.

My God. Jesus Christ. He's just edging himself. They make him sound like he's Ric Flair in fucking The Plane Ride from Hell, you know what I mean? Helicopter in his cock as he's doing it. Imagine that.

He's skating down super fast, got the puck, he's moving it around, and he's helicoptering his cock at the same time, hypnotically. You're never going to be able to stop that puck where do you where do you look yeah i'm so distracted i'm so distracted i'm intimidated by his veiny fucking penis here and then he's he's got his puck too so um jesus roaring down the ice all wound up and ready to let go it seemed only a matter of time before that bullet shot would cause some poor net minder serious injury my god he really does have a bullet shot i guess who needs cause of injury or any other nudie mag when you've got

uh poetry like this about hockey if you're a hockey fan you could kind of whack it to that probably i've never been harder james i know i don't even like hockey but i'm into it i'm i'm i'm starting to fucking come around here the throb is intense i feel like in the 30s there's not there's no pornography available it's very difficult this is what you have yeah that's why they're writing it like this your central hockey talk repressed this guy needs to come bad so so he's done the unthinkable he's come from to the nhl back down to nothing with a broken leg and fought his way back to the nhl they're calling him you know the unbelievable thing they're calling him the comeback kid they're praising his amazingly just fucking malleable and enormous cock. Yeah. He can do things with it as well.

So talented. So talented. People are afraid of his just earth shattering jizz shots. So I feel like it's only safe to say grace at this point. Right. I mean, what else is going on here? He's got a net shredder,

James. A huge one. Yeah. He has to. Those holes in the net aren't as big as he needs so it's how he intimidates the goal he comes behind the goal and sticks his cock through the net they're like oh god he's coming and don't come around here very afraid of him so 40 41 he's plays in 46 games with the canadians So really cements his place on the team. 13 goals and 10 assists.

So fine season for him. 17 penalty minutes, which I assume he assaulted another helmetless man and knocked most of his teeth out. I'm just going to guess. So the team that year goes 16-26- okay um not terrific they do they go to the playoffs with that though are you shitting me that's what i mean the nhl now too many teams make it to the playoffs but back then there's only eight teams i think you have to have six for a playoff right i mean yeah you have to so i think only two teams didn't make it uh because

they came in sixth in the nhl and they definitely to the playoffs. And they definitely had at least sixth. I mean, fuck. They lose to the Blackhawks, though, and there's that. So they're done. It's at this point now that people are starting. This fantastic line is starting to get torn apart here. And November of 1941, the beginning of the next season is when that happens first uh jack adams uh here not peanuts oh flarity a different jack he was called up to the army

after because you know world war ii is starting yeah it's getting rowdy out there it's getting rowdy and canada is a an english you know offshoot an english colony and england was in the war early because they kind of had no choice they were kind of being they didn't have they didn't have the luxury of us going we're gonna have a wait and see attitude of this whole war war world war two thing that's going on over there they didn't really have that fight with us they were certainly being fought picked fought picked yes they were being fought picked um soought picked, yes. They were being fought picked. So Tony Demers, at this point, has another problem. He hurts himself in a car accident.

Oh? Now, as we said, remember, he broke his leg earlier, and he again breaks his leg, this time way worse than a car accident. Apparently, Tony, his wife, his brother, and his sister-in-law, his brother's wife, were all in a car together when they ran into a tree. Okay. And this is no airbags, no safety, there's no seatbelts. You absorbed the blow. Into the seatbelt, into the steering wheel with your chest. Yeah.

Into the giant bus steering wheel. Or the steel dash or the back of the steel fucking seat. Yeah. Or the plate glass windshield that will slice your arteries open as you go through it. So it's no good option here for getting in an accident. It's just bad. The only thing you can hang your hat on is you're driving like a 12,000-pound steel vehicle that can cut through most things.

Apparently, large maple trees aren't something that it can bust through, though. No, those are pretty sturdy. They're solid. That's the problem. So according to this, they were all in the car. It was 12.20 in the morning,

so just after midnight. they had visited some friends and then they were on their way back home and uh tony's driving so he's shit face hammered he's been they've been partying at a friend's house for the last however many hours and it's midnight so he's hammered he's driving along montcalm street which it says here ends at Salaberry Park. So it comes to a T. You're driving down a road. You can't go straight. You can only go right or left.

If you go straight, you drive directly into a park where there's a giant maple tree there. So it's pretty obvious there's no road there from what I understand. And instead of turning, he just continued straight and ran up onto the curb into into the park, and directly into a large maple tree at a high rate of speed. God damn it. Not smart whatsoever. So the fucked up part is he's the only one that's hurt really in the whole wreck. That's the crazy thing, too. So rare.

He suffers a double fracture of the right leg near the ankle and above the knee. He breaks his leg in two places that far away from each other, above the ankle and above the knee. So basically you could take his shin and just pull it out and throw it away. Yeah. It's broken. He's got three knees. Yeah. He's a disaster right now.

And everybody else, though, they were all scratched up obviously because we're talking plate glass is flying everywhere everyone's going to be cut and shit like that they all go to western hospital and um yeah he's severely injured i'm trying to find the actual injuries for everybody else here oh christ that's funny some a nearby person in a house called and they were like shocked like somebody somehow they said somebody somehow ran into that maple tree at the park. I don't know how you do it with a car, but they did it. Yeah, you got to do that on purpose. Oh, shit.

So apparently they got a doctor there, right leg fracture two places, large bone being broken near the ankle and small bone higher up but below the knee, two broken ribs and lacerations of the face and right hands right hand so he's in pain yeah leg broken all over the place two broken ribs and cut up you're hurting no internal injuries they said they said uh um yeah they they were they didn't know if he'd be able to play again next year or ever again at this point because they said his leg is pretty fucked up his wife suffered cuts on the arm and face and got 15 stitches but no broken bones or anything like that he hit it hard he hit it hard oh he was flying yeah this wasn't a rolling stop he went through the stops he went through the intersection like

there was no intersection and there was road on the other side. He was just cruising down the road. But the road ended and there's a fucking maple tree in your way. I don't know how drunk you have to be to not notice a park. Like Clark Griswold to sleep behind the wheel. Essentially, yeah, just flying through shit, all coming down, landing, and then pulling into the hotel. Here we are. That's essentially what happened here up and adam up and adam let's go i love roll them up yeah roll them up so they're uh everybody's

hurt too the brother and and uh brother-in-law have minor injuries and you know all this type of shit they don't really they're upset because they've lost the other two people from their front line as well so now they said their whole team is fucked, essentially. Coach Dick Irvin said, we thought we had our share of injuries to start with, but this really knocked us right off our feet. There's nothing we can do about it, but dig in and try all the harder and hope to land some new players to plug the gaps. My God, plug the gaps. Can we please, hockey people? How much horny talk do they need need it's all sexual innuendo it's all like

hardcore like you know latent homosexual like yeah like that type of like old school like we're gonna plug the gaps and do like a you know latent homosexuality's 50s style that's what they would call it that's what i. Football today is not much different. I mean, football is pretty bad lately. Yeah, football, it's all a bit. Sounds like some of the announcers, the color guys, would just be like, oh, that's a football play right there. He ran for 12 yards, was tackled by the linebacker,

where the linebacker then physically dominated to the ground, dominated him to the ground, and mounted him sexually. I like it. I like it. You have to intimidate the other team, and this is the way to do it. I feel like a non-consensual sexual encounter is really the way to put the fear in the heart of the other team. It's the only way to do it. That's good football right there. I like when they say things like spread them out and got them from behind.

All that stuff. Right up the middle. I dial it. Crammed it in there. There's tons of All that stuff. Right up the middle. I dialed it in there. There's tons of innuendo. Spreading the gap. It's great. He spreads the gap and then he just plows right through there, as you can see. Just rips right into the defense and you're like, oh.

It's every week and Joe Buck seems to really love it. He loves it. I just hate the color guys that every meathead if you flip around like if you were had all the games and you flipped around every color guy's the same he sounds like this yeah he played offensive line for two and a half years and you've never heard of him and uh you know he's a ron wolfley but he's you know and he says the word football about 7 000 times a game yeah there'll be a play and he goes that's a heck of a football play right there no shit what the fuck else are they doing well let's just assume pulls a soccer move we're gonna have a problem out here yeah if he dunks it over the fucking goalpost and

it counts for three for two points we're probably gonna have an issue at that point so otherwise can we just assume all this goes for all of you? Because I know we have some like announcer types that listen. If you're a color person and you're calling a football game, we assume whatever you're talking about field on the field wise has to do with football. So you don't have to say the word football. That's a great play. He's a great player. Leave the word football out of it.

We get it. He's wearing a fucking helmet with a fucking cardinal on the side i assume he's playing football so shut the fuck up you son of a bitch and uncreative twats i hate to watch a football game to watch a football this is a really good football game all these football fans gathered in this amazing football stadium today to watch these wonderful football players play football that was a heck of a football play to really entertain these football fans. You fucking meathead. Too many concussions. I'm sorry.

I get you need a guy that knows the game or whatever. Bring a fucking kicker in or somebody that hasn't been concussed 14,000 fucking times to call these goddamn fucking games. I'm so sick of it. Maybe he's saying it, James, to remind himself where he's at and what he's watching. That's true. What is it? It's a football game.

That's right. They just have to bring him in on a Hannibal Lecter fucking cart and just plan him there. And he's like, I'm here to call the football game. They pump him up all week. They talk nicely to him like a horse. They're like, you're going to call the football game. You're going to call all the football plays. The football players can't wait for you to get there.

It's like, I'm going to call football plays. I can't. Dude, I literally will watch with the fucking sound off. I can't. I can't wait for you to get there. It's like, I'm going to call football plays. Dude, I literally will watch with the fucking sound off. I can't listen to these meatheads. I just watched a game on an airplane with no sound. Greatest experience of my life. Fucking glorious, right? It's unbelievable. We don't need these fucking people.

Don't give me stats of who's doing what. I don't care. I'll watch this, and I don't need you. It's all on the screen. You are obsolete, my friend. Nothing you say statistically or anything like that will not be shown in a graphic on the screen. I fucking guarantee you. You're right.

It'll be a chyron at some point because everything's a graphic. So we don't need you. It is phenomenal. Yeah. It's the worst at this point. I'm going to be honest. It's easier to pay attention to the game without those fuckers yapping. It's very similar to like,

if you watch a game with somebody and they're talking and you're just like, hold on, hold on to the play. I'm trying to see this. I've got, I've got Joe Buck and Troy Aikman saying enough fucking words. Shut your mouth. Jesus.

And if everybody's smartest of all of them, that's the fucking sad part, right? Like it's at least a fuck man i can't do it i just can't do it anymore it's so great all alone no volume that's beautiful you will be you will love yourself remember like 80s 90s you'd have like madden and summer all yeah okay and summer summer all had the voice he was a football he's a player though he's a kicker for years. But he had the voice, and he had that boozy, good, perfect announcer voice. And then Madden would come in with, Oh, we're going to do this, blah, blah, blah, blah. But there wasn't anybody who was like,

That's just a good football play there. You can see a tackle. He opens up the hole, and the running back just plows right through. It's a good football play. It's just good football. Fucking morons i like i they gotta be putting these football players in because it's like a nostalgia thing and it feels like a football player is telling you something that you don't know tony romo i liked watching him because he would say things about the game i had no fucking idea that that's what that was that's what it it used to be. Right. But even still.

Yeah. Just the other day watching it with zero sound. I was like, you know what? We don't need them. It's not. I don't care anymore. I don't care to know anymore. Yep.

I can just watch this play unfold and I'm happy. You used to have to have broadcasting talent in addition to being an ex-player. That's how they used to do color guys. They want a color guy that's a player so they can give you inside thing oh well he you'll see here this is the play and that's what they're trying to do yeah okay great sometimes you sit there and go well if it's all silent you go i wonder why you did that but sometimes tony romo will tell you why you fucking did that and that's what they used to have they used to have guys that would have personality and some kind of broad like they had monday night football back in the day they had don meredith on there who had a lot of personality and he was like he had that

accent and he'd tell you but he would actually diagram plays and knew how to do shit and he was like the tony romo of his time where he was like entertaining and also smarter than you think he is you know what i'm saying while he's doing the game like but pat summerall he's a player i as a kid i never really realized he was a player because he was such a he had such a good voice and he was a good broadcaster now they just get some fucking guy who retired from being a linebacker three years ago right and they just put him in there stick a fucking suit on him that's too tight because he's all jacked up still from playing he's not old enough to do this and he's like i'm gonna get out there play some football

with these fucking guys. Who's got a football? I just was tailgating. I need football. Calm the fuck down. You need to take your testosterone level down like eight notches before you get in that booth. Like, you need to really chill the fuck out. The job for those guys is go wander around before the game and shoot the footage of that guy eating sausages with the people in the parking lot.

That's all you need. That's it. I don't need anything else from that fucking guy. And they go, yeah. And then he eats a sausage. Back to you in the fucking booth. People with broadcasting talent. And then they cut back to them. Shotguns a beer with some fucking plumber and we move on. And then he

fucking dies of a heart attack at 41 out in the goddamn parking lot with half a bratwurst in his hand in section fucking 341 at Lam lambo field in the and he's probably happy with that yeah and he's thrilled that's how he wanted to go sorry everybody i needed to point is watch football with no sound because it's yes legitimately magical jimmy has nailed that shit on the fucking head so um uh anyway that that is a problem obviously so he sits out like a whole year essentially from this but comes back in uh november 1942 he's back so he comes back for the next season which is way ahead of schedule he probably needs the money too

and he's you know he's doing what he can but But on November 4th, 1942, they're in camp, I guess, training, and apparently him and another guy, Paul Bibolo, had a couple of accidents. Demers, Jesus, this guy, he's just a disaster. He tripped over a piece of wood.

This doesn't happen at hockey practice. What is this? Which was lying on the ice. So it's the ice. You can see it from. It's not like it's hiding somewhere. Why is there wood? I don't have any idea why there's wood on the ice, but I can't imagine how you could not avoid it as well.

Like, get the don't fucking skate over the wood, idiot. It's ice. You can it's all you can see everything on it what's happening he tripped over it uh it was lying on the ice but recovered from his tumble um and i guess he hurt himself doing that so they were all worried that his leg was fucked up again they're like oh my god with this guy he uh i guess he plays in nine games in the 42-43 season, has two goals and five assists apparently here. So the reason why he doesn't get cut, though, December of 42, after only nine games, he's very excited to be back and scored some goals and everything. He's got his broken leg all healed up tripped over wood didn't fucking you know

didn't lose it it's all good stayed in there and then he gets called to the army oh no because it's uh december 1942 and shit's getting really yeah shit's getting real over there not that it wasn't before but i mean it's really ramped up now and oh it's kicking off the u.s is getting involved it's a mess so not that we made it it was involved before that but it's it's full blown and uh you know they're they're calling everybody up so they call up tony demers and his fucked up leg and everything to the army luckily for him he it's just to play hockey for the canadian team i believe he plays for the canadian army hockey wow that's what he's

doing during this which a lot of the guys that's what they did it would help promote shit like that how much do you love that you can represent your company your country in in your service yeah with with hockey but i think they just play like the other armed forces like they don't go play the german hockey team i don't think or anything like that that would be that would be very interesting counts as a battle loss yeah that would be wild like sorry we have to seed the rhine river because we lost they're good i don't know what to tell you demmer's tripped over a piece of wood that fucked up the whole game and then we we lost we had to we had to seed back half of France. It'd be better if the battle at the Alamo was over football. We had to give Northern Italy back to them.

I don't know what happened. Back to the Axis. Davy Crockett. Was it Davy Crockett? It was, right? The guy with the coon hat? You know what I'm talking about? Yes.

Coonskin hat, Davy Crockett. Yes. That guy had 83 yards at the battle of the Alamo, I heard. I heard so, too. That was pretty good. He averaged 5.6 per carry, which was pretty impressive. 83 yards and two touchdowns. It was impressive.

That's not bad. He caught one or two, I believe, too. He's mainly a blocking back, too. That's what I mean. It was a surprise that day, but it's not bad. And he was the only guy with a raccoon hat on his head rather than a helmet, so that was also very impressive. Well, their defense couldn't stop Santa Ana anna and his uh and his uh 30 33 touchdown but day they couldn't

oh he he dominated the day set a record for touchdowns uh had 4 000 yards on that afternoon day it was incredible many touchdowns a lot of interceptions it's also he plays both ways obviously yeah so uh he said he just returned to action after the injury and like this they're like he can't get out in front of anything uh the funny part is here is i found in this article because it's all like these articles all small articles connected to each other and i just love as you know as we've done bonus episodes newspaper articles from back in the day are incredible uh our next crime and sports bonus by the way is going to be personal ads so yeah that's for patreon that is our best one and we're going to write ads for each other that's what we're going to do we're going to try to sell each other crisscross everybody at the end of it that'll close out the episode i'm gonna sell my

italian friends crank i can't wait that's right i'm gonna talk all about jimmy and the wonders of his penis you're gonna really i'm gonna sound more better than these guys said i'm gonna make him sound more attractive than these these writers made tony demmer's hockey game sound so i found an article right above it connected right to it it's army calls demers and then right above it is farmer bombed from underground oh i'm like how the fuck did that happen yeah i get so distracted with these old articles and uh here it is from chickasha oklahoma oh the dateline which right away i'm interested. Hoot Tucker is the guy's name we're talking about. Hoot.

Hoot. Hoot Tucker. Yeah, he's waiting for Peanut Flaherty to come home and help him out. Hoot Tucker thought the day of the aerial bombing had struck in Oklahoma. He was shucking corn and minding his own business in a farm near Tabler when there was a terrific blast nearby and a big hole was torn into the ground and flames spurted 20 feet high. Holy shit, this is fucking wild.

Tucker's team ran away. He admitted he felt like doing the same thing, but he had to investigate and found a high-pressure natural gas line had burst. Holy shit. Sorry, that was just insane that's a crazy story a natural gas line burst and then ignited and exploded the ground out above it and a 20-foot flame shot out from so all the dirt it probably yeah you know 100 yards around it and then a 20 foot high flame from what i understand here from what it sounds like a continuous

flame like a you know an eternal torch just fucking from the ground. Sounds like a freight train. It's incredible when that happens. In Oklahoma in 1941 you're like it's the devil that's it's over. Revelations coming true and they said ground

will burst and flames will come up like an eternal torch i heard all about it god damn or he's got to be screaming hitler's here yeah there's air it's coming well he said he thought it was a fucking air raid yeah and then he realized it was the other way so i thought that was why i guess this is what it looked like oh shit jesus the grab coming from the ground this is crazy so in the on the army team he has 13 games i don't know if that's a whole army season or what three goals and one assist seems like he should be able to dominate a little bit more against yeah he's a professional player unless all of them got drafted a lot of

them did yeah it's like it's kind of like in baseball where the squad you could have put together from the world war ii team is wild just i mean dimaggio ted williams all these guys it's everybody from back then all the anybody able-bodied yeah it's you could definitely put a two hall of fame teams together from all the guys that served in world war ii it's incredible so 1943 he uh he makes a comeback he's out of the army he's discharged from the canadian army and the canadians send him to the new york rangers as part of like to finish a trade they had made a trade and they still owed like a player to be named later on a guy named phil watson so they threw in this guy fresh they threw in Demers fresh out of the Army here.

So they said he's not in hockey shape yet, so they sent him down to Providence to get into shape. And he plays there pretty well. And New York ends up bringing him back up to play against the Red Wings. And, you know, he's ready to go. So he's signed with the rangers ready for his first game he plays in his first game with the rangers okay so he's in a game with the rangers and he just disappears just okay just fucking i mean new york's a big place james fights i think it's a

lot of partying i think he found a lot of bars and he was just like what am i doing playing hockey this is ridiculous. I don't want to do this. New York's a little different than Quebec. You can get lost pretty easy in that city. He got lost, all right. He just disappeared. It's so strange to go to the Army, fight your way back.

You have to want to get back into your profession and back into professional hockey after being injured than being in the Army. He comes back. He's in the minors for 20 games or so. He his strength back up he's all ready to go he comes back one game and back in the nhl and he's like i got other shit to do yeah you know i feel like i accomplished that goal i'm done so the rangers have to suspend him because i mean i guess it doesn't really matter he doesn't he's not there so you're suspending nothing it's kind of a it's like firing someone after they quit i guess at that point right there they're in the parking lot driving away it's too late now that's what happened here he just failed to report for duty they put it on he played for one game and then was supposed to show up the next day for practice. Never showed up. Never showed up for the next game.

Just took the fuck off here. You're supposed to do that from the army, not from your job. Because it's scary. It's a weird fucking thing here. So, yeah, they suspend him indefinitely. Because, I mean, what are you going to suspend him for? Five games. Well, if he's gone.

He suspended himself for five games. Yeah. So if he's gone and if he comes back after five games and it's okay again, as long as he comes back, I don't know what's happening here. So he does that. The Rangers, maybe it's because they sucked really bad. Really? They were 6-39-5 that year.

Jesus. Which is abhorrent. That is terrible fucking, just a goddamn awful record. 6-39-5? Holy shit. They tied almost as many times as they won, and they won like a sixth of their games. One out of every six they'd win. That is fucking crazy.

They won six times and didn't win 44 times. That's a terrible season. Didn't win. Didn't times. That's a terrible season. And didn't win. And didn't win. That's basically it. That's it. That's a bad goddamn season. So there's an article on him around this time when he's back down in the minors because he ends up popping back up again the next year in 44-45 for the Lachine Rapids again.

There's an article here. the next year in 44, 45 for the Lachine rap rapids. Again, there's a, an article here. It's this weird, like tidbits from the sports world thing. And it's in one big article. And it's just like a one or two sentences about each thing followed by, you know, ellipses.

And then somebody else, his little thing is Tony Demers has such an appetite that he takes two of every course on the menu, according to Cliff Butler, who's a restaurant owner at the time, who frequents his restaurant. Two of everything. Two appetizers, two salads, two fucking entrees, two desserts. He just eats two of everything.

Jesus. He's like a 5'8", 180-pound guy, and he's just eating like a monster, which is, I guess, to soak up all the booze too yeah sometimes you got to put a little bit more bread down that's what it is so he's playing for lachine in 1945 when there's another problem here uh he's arrested by city detectives and uh it's for an incident on city hall avenue during which a hotel owner has complained that as the newspaper puts it he was quote relieved of 328 dollars oh he got robbed in downtown i love the way they would put got robbed relieved of this like it was weighing him down he couldn't fit in his pockets anyway so you were kind enough to take it off his

hands is what it sounds like. I had to carry this all day, and I was tired. Thank you. Needed to put it down. Thank you. Please, don't spend it all in one place, but thank you. It's just too much. $370 in 1940.

$328 in 1945. That's a lot of money, though. Jesus. That's a lot. Oh, that's a lot of fucking money running around with that much scratch in your hand people made like two thousand dollars a year back then that was like a good salary like that was like a good salary so this is uh this is wild uh he also he wasn't not only was he relieved of 328 the complainant was beaten, beaten with the jagged edges of a beer bottle.

Yeah. A broken beer bottle. That's called stabbed. And left in an unconscious condition. Left for dead. They beat him over the head with a beer bottle, even after it was broken, and then left him for dead. Robbed him and left him for dead.

That's a little more, geez, they really cheered that article up didn't they right relieved him and uh and left and left in an unconscious condition that's a lot for beaten beaten stabbed and left for dead is really what that is so stabbed and left for dead you get that robbery is the fucking qualifier and also an aggravator that'll put you up for a death penalty. They kill this guy, yeah. So he's, apparently it's a guy named Gerard Tremblay is the other guy accused of this. Him and Tony are in view of this Tremblay's bad reputation and the type of crime of the nature of the offense. The judge, otherwise known as his lordship,

declared that he would send this man to the penitentiary for, this is Tremblay, you, sir, may fuck off ten years in the penitentiary. Yeah. For the beating and relieving someone of money of this nature apparently he's got a quite the record behind him as well uh they said quote conditions are such that citizens cannot walk on the streets at night without fearing an attack the money was returned eventually to the owner as well it was recovered if you don't know when crystal pepsi was discontinued what was in Al Capone's vault,

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You can listen to WikiHole ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. So, the judge, Armand Cloutier, covered so uh the judge armand clotier declared that he had no sympathy for criminals who robbed and bludgeoned unsuspecting passerbys who the fuck does really i do i mean you know who can help knocking someone out with a beer bottle and robbing them there when they're walking by with their head all out and exposed just asking for it right i mean they don't have to put unsuspecting in there i mean we it's pretty well uh assumed that this guy didn't expect to be robbed and beaten till near death to be beaten and left for dead while he was robbed i doubt he would have left the house if he

did probably would have stayed home passerby i don't think so yeah he knew it was coming uh he was addressing gerard Tremblay. He was a 28-year-old guy here. That's when they put him in for 10 years. The beating was of a guy named Paul Massey, M-A-S-S-E, Massey, Massey of Shemblay, and hit him there, robbed him of over $300, like we said. Tremblay asked for the mercy of the court, pleading that he was married and the father of two children so please i'm the sole supporter the judge pointed out that he should have thought of his family before committing this infamous crime you sir may fuck

off yeah so now it's demmer's turn in court here how much time do you get 10 years yeah 10 years in the penitentiary so now demmers comes up and uh he is arraigned on a charge of robbery with violence that's what he's got not not a great thing here um he he uh apparently the the whole point of this is that he's trying to say that he had nothing to do with it yeah and he was just like a bystander. And he's like, I don't even know. I'm not with that guy. Like, not me. I'm not with him. So, yeah, the complainant here, the Massey guy, said that Demers watched as Tremblay beat him and punched him and hit him with beer bottles and shit.

He added that the complainant added that he asked Demers to give him a hand, please, but that Demers just looked on passively. Not me. I'm not with him. That's a pretty good sign that he, because, I mean,

he is a hockey player. So, something tells me he could have probably thrashed this guy on the street if he fucking wanted to. He could have, while he's hitting him with a beer bottle,

pummeling him, he could have probably went over and thrown him on the ground and kicked the shit out of him if he really felt like it checked him anything anything he you know i'm just thinking that but he said no i don't think so and stood there so i was like jesus that is horrible this is a this has happened in the street right this guy was a hotel guy who was leaving his hotel with the cash for the day and they just beat him in the street like fucking monsters. That's cold shit. I was shocked by it, honestly.

I really was. But not as surprised as I was by the sales, Jimmy. Oh, the sales in 1945. There's so many of them. These are kind of from the whole 40s era here that I found. My favorite part is there will be zero electronics in this. That's the funny part. This is a representation of what all the ads are for, basically.

It's well-rounded here. First of all, before you start your day, you are going to have to go get yourself some Black Cat Virginia cigarettes right away here. Here we go. You're right. They do taste better. and this guy is winking at you say you're not full of shit uh you can get black like he's never had one before two fingers holding it up like it's uh like he's waving a little flag but the flag little flag is a cigarette that's and's winking. Thumb and fucking forefinger. Yeah, and not like out like Europeans hold cigarettes.

He's holding it straight up in the air. Like the lit part is straight up. It's very odd. This is delicious. He's winking very suggestively, very suggestively, and says 25 and 10 cents, plain or cork tip. So either one here. They used to have a cork tip a cork tip i guess like a tipperillo like a okay maybe one of those yeah i think you can chew on it yeah and uh so

you're also you're gonna have to stock up on some things swing by the associated grocers for lots of shit here uh we have tomato juice 20 ounces two for 25 cents everybody wants 40 ounces that's a lot that's a lot uh a 16 ounce tin of spaghetti which i don't know if that's dry spaghetti if that's like already made spaghetti wet shit just some wet shit 25 cents though mustard only a dime two cans of pork and beans for 21 cents oh that Oh, that's a goddamn. A Halloween layer cake. Only 30 cents at the old bakery there. Yeah.

That's good shit. Blue label quality tea. Only 82 cents. They have to import that. Let's see here. For Halloween, peanuts, 35 cents for two pounds. Halloween apples, 198 a case. Oh. Jesus. Suck apples, 198 a case. Oh.

Jesus. Suckers, box of 72. So 72 lollipops, 59 cents. Yeah. Wow, that's awesome. That's not even a penny a piece.

32 ounces of strawberries, 37 cents. That's awesome. Lobster, golden crown. Oh, it's a tin of lobster gross uh 21 cents a tin for lobster that can't be that can't be quality lobster i'm weirded out by two cans of pork and bean for 21 cents what if i only want one can that's like you can't have one you can't have a dime ten and a half cents no i'm I'm sorry. We only sell them together.

It's a pair. 21 cents. What if you only want one leg of a pair of pants? Sorry. You can also get almond paste, a half-pound package for 30 cents. They've been doing almond butter that long? Almond paste that long. Absolutely.

Yeah, I don't know why, but they do. Sausage patties, 25 cents for sausages. Not bad. Either that or, you know what, you don't feel like cooking tonight.

Yeah. You're going out on the town. Let's do it. Go see a movie. Yeah. Go see Alibaba and the 40 Thieves. Oh, my.

There's that, which is kind of a famous movie. Wild Nights of Sheer Delights. Burning Days of Bold Adventure. Raiders, Slavers, Riches and Rogues. When Beauty was the Booty and the Prize was All Love. Oh my.

Starring Maria Montaz, John Hall, Turum Bay, with Andy Driver. It's in Technicolor. Yeah, there it is. It looks like a big spectacle of a movie. Or, you know, like that, go see Bing Crosby in Strand,

Paramount's musical knockout in the gay land of the showboat. Well, then. All right, and there's old Bing with his top hat on, looking like Buff Bagwell. With Joan Bennett and W.C. Fields. Wow. That's it. all right and there's old bing with his top hat on looking like buff bagwell with joan bennett and wc fields wow that's it uh you know it booth uh what is this booth something booth tarkington's re uh romantic story of dixieland set to music wc fields matinees 20 cents wow evenings 30 cents also lionel barrymore and susan foster and dr gillespie's new assistant i guess

is a double feature that sounds dirty i it's really dirty i found uh movies with burgess meredith from back then from the early 40s which he is uh grumpy old men rocky and fucking he's the penguin on the old batman that's the one that matters there he was so good here's another one timber queen come see the power packed thrills in the tall timber oh that's very canadian um starring richard arlen and mary beth hughes i don't understand the plane flying through wood what is that it's probably if it's exploding it maybe dropping it i think he's dropping a bomb on it maybe but that looks like a pretty cut piece i think he's dropping wood it looks like he's dropping wood from like shitting wood from a plane uh then there's a few over here dreamland uh is one starring cedric hardwick and

the moon is down okay uh betty grable in coney island oh you can. Oh. There you go. See that? There you go. Lassie, Come Home. Lassie's been around that long. Lassie, Come Home with Roddy McDowell and Donald Crisp and Lassie, obviously, it says on there. Immortal Music Lives Forever, Jeanette McDonald, Nelson Etienne, Naughty Marietta, which sounds like a porn. Yeah. And then the next one and then

the next one down also playing with naughty marietta is come live with me which could also be a 40s porn that's starring hetty lamar actually and jim and james stewart look at that holy shit that's a very early james stewart movie so that's he's way down there in the billing um and then you know maybe after dinner you're gonna need a bite you're gonna take a date out stop by to eat at the splendid restaurant this is their daily menu cold pork 65 cents roast loin of pork 70 cents pot roast of beef 65 cents roast leg of lamb 70 cents fried oysters 80 cents fried scallop 75 cents chicken chow mein which sounds like it's going to be delicious coming from this place with the sounds like

ethnic food is their thing 75 cents and then the businessman special whatever the fuck that is is 60 cents or you know what there's another thing you can do here let's try to make some money tonight uh port tallow and reduction works Works is saying, quote, wanted dead horses, mules, cows, and hogs. What do they want for that? We'll remove them free of charge. What are they going to do with those things? I'd love to know. If someone's willing to come to your house and remove thousands of pounds of dead animals, they're going to fuck them or something weird.

They're going to serve that to people. That is not fucking cool at all there um yeah and then there's also bowling at the ladies healthful pleasant enjoyment it says uh bring your husband it even says the businessmen's club in brownsville i found called the what the the business the pleasurement? What was it called? Ladies. It just says bowling in big letters. And it says, ladies, healthful, pleasant enjoyment at your entertainment center. Bring your husband. That's the whole. Those are all words.

Those are all words. I found closing out sale. As I have sold my farm, I will sell a public auction. And it's two head of horses, these cows, three-year-old heavy Springer Jersey cow, heavy milker, they said. So there's a heavy milker available if you guys are looking for that. Household articles. We got Crosby electric washing machine. New warm morning heating stove.

Zenith radio. That's good stuff there. An ice box, box new pillows potatoes and onions and other things and other things and other things there's there there's all sorts of ads for auctions of tons of different head of hogs and all this shit i found houses 36 fucking hundred dollars for a house six room bungalow three large bright bedrooms open fireplace hardwood floors uh trees garage cobblestone work thirty six hundred dollars less than four grand that's fucking insane um then i found one 325 dollars uh cash you get shack gas large lot you can have a shack so those are your your options of housing back then were

the most fun that is a lot of fun and then you know what by now the whole day you've run out of uh black cat cigarettes i'm sure because you've i know you're smoking three four packs a day they're delicious so they're delicious so you need to get yourself a different pack. Get yourself for a clean, cool, smooth smoke. Make the 20 test of State Express. That's what they're called. And there's smoke 20 State Express. Taste all the flavor of rich Virginia tobaccos. You smoke it, and then they say you won't want to go back after that.

That's it. That's going to be your brand. State Express. And then finally finally at the end of the day it's been a long day you've seen a lot of dead mules and horses and uh you need to forget so when you need to forget jimmy insist on old mull fine mellow whiskey old mull which sounds disgusting uh it's made by the johns hopkins company limited i don't know if that's the fucking doctor or what it says i love this the whiskey of pleasant memories that's hilarious

pleasant memories because you're so shit-faced you're like i think it right 13 ounces a dollar 40 deal uh 25 ounces two dollars and 60 cents you can get a 40 of whiskey for four dollars and 15 cents pleasant memories too and some pleasant memories to go with it sorry it's whenever we do on this old i have to do a lot of sales that's unbelievable so the trial comes around for tony demers here charged with violent theft and uh so fucking funny the it's highlighted here in the beginning by the testimony of gerard trembley who was coming in from his 10-year prison term and took it took a break from his bid to testify yeah that's right he they bring him in he says that uh that he uh i guess tony had offered him two hundred dollars to quote do the job on massey he said so he said tony offered me to beat

this guy up he said he'd give me two hundred dollars meanwhile tony doesn't know this guy this guy doesn't know tony so there's no like connection to where Tony be like, I want that guy's ass kicked for money. It's a weird thing. Massey, he said that this guy, Tremblay, said he refused to do it. He's like, I wouldn't do I didn't want to do it. That's his defense. Meanwhile, he did do it and he's convicted of it. Now, Demers, he says his whole defense is I had no part in this.

I had nothing. He said that he declared that he was aware of what occurred only when he saw the blood-spattered hotel keeper lying unconscious on the ground. That's when he found it. That's what he said. Near the entrance to an alley. He said, I didn't even know what happened until I saw a bloody guy laying there. Now, the guy was like, well, that's funny. I begged for your help while he was beating me. Remember when I asked for you to tell him to stop?

At least tell him. At least say something. Oh, shit. He says, this is Demmer's story. He says that Massey, who is the beaten man, another party and himself met on January 19th to see a boxing match. Okay, that's what he said. They went to the forum to see a boxing match. see a boxing match okay that's what he said they went to the forum to see a boxing match then demmer said quote we all went to the bellevue afterwards and later decided to go to 1454 city

hall avenue for some beer that's the address of the beating now um he uh the the guy demmer said that he knew mr massey well i guess the other guy said he didn't know him so he said he knew mr massey well he said they were all sitting together. This is Demers saying this until he got up and went to the restroom. He said, when I returned, Massey was gone, but then Tremblay was sitting there.

So he said, you know, one guy was gone and he was traded for somebody else. He said, so I went outside to see what happened. Look around, see if my friends walking down the street. He said,

that's when he turned and he saw Massey lying unconscious in the snow, bleeding. This is a story? This is his story. The prosecutor, when he's on the stand, asked him what his profession was, and he replied, professional hockey player. And the prosecutor was asking him like do you fight in hockey do you have you you know things like that is that your thing yes is there that then they also said what else do you do on the side do you have other things do you do are you involved in illegal activities that people would owe you money for that you would want to collect and have

them beaten with a beer bottle in the snow. Things that they're basically saying that this money is probably a betting thing and all this sort of shit. So now the defense was indignant about this. They were like, how dare you? They said that he was ready to show a newly signed contract between Demers and a hockey team for $7,500, and he does not need to do illegal activities on the side. How dare you? So this is a ridiculous court case for what's a pretty obvious thing. I mean, if I'm with you and a third party comes and starts beating you

and you ask me for help and I just don't, I just stand there and watch it seemingly satisfying you think i'm in and i ain't on it right you're not thinking like oh he's just in shock like demers is a hockey player a fighting isn't going to make him demure and like run in a corner he's going to run to it i would think so it's just ridiculous so the uh the sergeant investigated the case uh testified that demers had given a description of the presumed assailant, which was similar to the one that the victim gave. He said at the time, the detective said he didn't even think of arresting Demers because he was the guy's friend. They said. But they're trying to trying to make it seem like at the time like uh the guy who was beaten was too scared to

say that demers was in on it while the cops were there because he didn't want to be be beaten again the detectives say that he definitely was there i don't even know why they allowed this testimony in because he admitted to being there um they said they found a button off the coat of demers at the scene of the assault oh no later on when they talked to demmers they noticed one button missing from the overcoat that he was wearing and then they found the cut that near the beating site sometimes mine shed whenever i uh all the time people that i can't be involved in this yeah when i see people get beat up buttons pop off my overcoat all the time so um now uh Trembley testifies that Demers had told him that Massey had about nine hundred dollars on him and that Demers offered to give him a hundred dollars to beat

him up and rob him and take his money and give it to him so that's what he did Trembley swore that he refused and maintained that he had nothing to do with the whole affair nothing to do with it another witness a florence uh hero she said that uh she heard the voice of demers call for the police and detectives did admit that demers went uh with them to the victim with the victim to the hospital which could also be to keep him fucking quiet so that to me doesn't excuse or convict him. That's irrelevant. Then the complainant, the beaten man, testified that he had asked Demers to defend him and he wouldn't do it. So it kept going on and on. Essentially, he was ordered held bail on $950. He gets out from doing that and they end up acquittingitting him of this whole thing he is freed of everything uh yeah they said that he acquitted take a walk they said uh declared

there was no proof of guilt against demers and he further maintained that much of the evidence tended to show that demers did everything in his power to stop the assailant you know short of stopping the assailant yeah actually doing that i of stopping the assailant actually doing that. I mean, there is a button showing that there was a scuffle. That's what I mean. That's what I thought. But even Demers said the only time it could have been a scuffle was not Demers fighting with the other guy, fighting with the victim. They said the fact that the complainant was was laid against Demers by the complaint a month after the incident spoke by itself, the judge said.

Also, he could be afraid of him. That's why the guy rode to the hospital with him. I think he was in on it, and that's that. Now, above this article, there's a very funny thing here that says, it's right below him. It says, the accused played for a few seasons for the Canadians and was known to have a deadly shot. Okay? Right connected with that. Maurice Sarazin, 19, let me give his address, blah, blah, blah.

And Albert Mawison, his address, were before the judge on a charge of having held up Tom Lee, a 68-year-old Chinese, not far from his home. I'm like, Jesus. Not a Chinese man? Not even a chinese person or a man a 68 year old chinese jesus christ uh they said they happened to be nearby arrested the two after a lively sprint and they pleaded not guilty and they ended up being found guilty so anyway there was that good so they're hilarious they're hilarious. They're amazing. So Demers is just free. That's it.

He's free, clear, no robbery for him. Obviously an innocent man. Yeah. I think he's got a lot more going on than even lets on. I think this dude has some kind of little racket going on. He's smidge dangerous. He's got some gambling action going on. There's something happening here, definitely.

He ends up signing with the Quebec Senior League, which is actually a really, really good league, apparently. It offers salaries that are sometimes higher than the NHL. Well, because it's generally going to be the guys that are done playing hockey at the National Hockey League. Heroes, the hockey heroes. They've got names. They're draws.

Yeah, I could see it. It's almost like also a separate league like there's a lot of guys that if you're mediocre you can make a lot of money in europe or minimal amount here back in the 80s and shit so that's kind of how that was he ends up signing with the saint what the fuck hyacinth hyacinth i guess saint hyacinth saints it's a lot of sainting going on there uh he has a great season 45 46 34 games played 50 goals 29 assists in the senior press and yeah that's impressive 79 points in 34 games is fucking good very good it's really good that's two points a game plus uh 1946 though he has a problem here february of 1946 he has a broken leg again oh no that leg jesus yeah it's again the same leg too it's just uh a fractured right leg last night against lachine and uh yeah uh he will not be back in service this

season he'll be out for the whole season it happened when he tried to make a quick turn after he'd been jammed into the boards and it's the second time he suffered a broken leg while playing hockey and the third overall because he fucking broke one in a car accident you imagine turning fast and your leg just fucking shatters yeah that's that's what i assume happens to everybody in the uh senior hockey league. P.S. Yeah. Lots of leg shatters. Your legs can't do it anymore. Lots of leg shatters going on.

He's back for the 47-48 season, though. He's only 30, by the way, for 47-48. He's in hockey, James. Yeah. That's just not in the NHL anymore. He plays for the Sherbrooke Saints. And in 52 games, he has 62 goals and 46 assists. Jesus. Which is absolutely dominant.

That's wild. That's really, really, really good. 1948 comes around. I saw this. He's like leading in everything, too. And by the end of the 48 season, for the 48-49 season, he is given the Bing Trophy, the buying trophy, B-Y-N-G trophy, as the most valuable player of the league here. Very impressive.

That year, 48-49, he had 60 games played, 53 goals, 58 assists. Wow. Amazing. So for the Sherbrooke Red Raiders in 48 49 so uh yeah he does that um he uh he gets the uh he also hurts himself at one point as well again to collect his trophy has to be helped onto the ice to collect his trophy so he's all sorts of hurt he is also voted by the way this year by the league the most gentlemanly player gentlemanly so he is the mvp and also most gentlemanly player the mgp very sportsmanlike very sportsman he's a gentleman jimmy i mean he's just a he's a gentle man that's

all there is to it so it's good stuff i don't know what he's doing but a gentleman jimmy i mean he's just a he's a gentle man that's all there is to it so it's good stuff i don't know what he's doing but a gentleman doesn't really come to mind i don't think for this guy seems like he's a just kind of a boozing kind of funny you know having a good time kind of a nightlife uh 40s kind of hey see what are you doing there see smoking a cigarette fedora wearing kind of cat. Leaving overcoat buttons at crime scenes. That's the general. Yeah.

Leaving overcoat buttons near people who've been beaten and left for dead with a beer bottle. That's generally a clue to finding the culprit. You know what I mean? Sometimes. Sometimes. So early 1949, Tony's been married this whole time, by the way, surprisingly. Early 1949, they file for divorce, him and his wife. They petition for divorce.

His wife's name, by the way, Mary Bridget Ellen Conway. There's a lot of names. Okay. She's got two names. Mary Bridget Ellen Conway Demers. Right. That's her name. So there's a problem at the beginning of the 49-50 season,

and that is that Tony is suspended for 10 games from the league because, and this is what I mean with his kind of questionable stuff here, he was playing in an intermediate playoff game for some other league that he's not a part of. Some bullshit league. Yeah, at Rigaud last Sunday, he paced this team

with three goals, and then he went to play for another team here. He ends up going, where's the details here? Okay. They announced the suspension, saying that he played with an intermediate B team under the name, quote, B. Taylor. That was his name. He took a fucking...

He took a pseudonym. Wow. He took an alias. He was recognized by a referee, Charles Diesel, who had refereed games that he was in before. He was a professional referee, and they ended up telling on him. I guess the suspension was ordered under the Canadian Amateur Hockey Association ruling, which forbids players to use an assumed name and to play with a club which they are not duly registered. Wow.

They also said the main problem with it was... They had to pass a rule, so that means people have done this a lot. Yeah, it's good. It's a ringer thing. They call they just say it's like a normal Demers is a ringer. They say they bring in a ringer. I'm Ty Bradley. Tuck his mullet up into his helmet.

That's how it fucking works, man. Yeah. So the main issue they have is and the reason why because they're like why would he do this like he makes good money he's playing in another league like why would he do this then they figured out that betting on the game was said to have run way more than normal like there was a shitload of bets on the game and we think possibly that's why he's oh boy there's a lot of gambling on this game and you know he was a part of that so they said demmer's case is going to be brought before all you know the committee and all this type of shit um apparently said yeah he played for dorian

uh that was the name of the team and he was in the lineup under B. Taylor, scored two goals. The team won 6-1. Everything was all great, and then that referee recognized him. Goddamn. The game ends up being played under protest because they're saying they don't believe that shit. They said there was heavy wagering on the outcome of the game, and it was the sixth game of a best-of-seven series. And there was bets as high as $18,000 on this game.

Holy shit. Which, in 1949, is a fuckload of money. That is like hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's so much money. That's, you know, 10-year salary for people back then. That's so much money. Were they betting on B. Taylor, on his team? They're trying to figure out they said more than half of the amount changed hands at the rink

at the rink side after the game was over this is a lot of cash bets on the spot the officials filed a report and it came through and he ended up being suspended he said listen i don't know what you're talking about he said i just merely quote played for a friend yeah i that yeah he said his friend was uh tony lalonde was the coach of the dorian team and he said i just said hey what the hell here you know um i'll just go on here i'll help my friend out yeah everything like that um he said i thought it was just an exhibition and the coach said tony demers did it as a favor for me we're old friends like that doesn't matter i had a lot of the game we really needed to win this one um he said that he a coach of the sherbrooke said uh team that he plays for normally demers he said he had seen demers at the queen's hotel sunday night after the game and that out of

nowhere he said demers said he was going out to a show, and then that was that. He never came back. He also came back with a knee injury from this game and said he wanted the doctors to look at his knee, and then they found out he got it playing somewhere else, so they weren't happy about that. No, he is suspended 10 games for you, sir. Fuck off.

10 games. I love that they asked him, did you play under the name of B. Taylor? And he said no, even though he admitted to doing that earlier. But yeah, it's fucking hilarious. The referee, by the way, when they found him, figured out who he was. They skated over to say, did I mishear your name? You're Tony Devers. And he's like, no, no, I'm B. Taylor.

I don't know what you're talking about. Demers said that he met Lalonde, the coach, while betting at a racetrack. Oh, boy. And then they asked him, well, did you ever bet on a hockey game? And he said, oh, God, no. No, I would never do that. I gamble like a bastard, just not on this. Only on the ponies.

Come on. He said he didn't know he required permission to play in the exhibition game. And, you know, he said, what the fuck? I don't know what I'm doing. I think it's fine. I didn't do anything wrong. And they said, yeah, you did. Lots of money exchanged hands, $10,000.

But our 10 games. So they reinstate him after 10 games. And he does really well. He has four goals in his first game back, powering his team to victory. And then two weeks later, he hurts really well. He has four goals in his first game back, powering his team to victory, and then two weeks later he hurts himself again. That sounds like our guy. Yep, he hurts himself again.

He's pretty banged up again. I think he hurts his leg, I believe, here. And, yeah, so he's a little bit upset. he's hurt the season's over he's ready for the 1949 1950 season so ready for it that in september of that season he's got to go out and party and get ready and loose for the season and on september 15th 1949 specifically he goes out to do that he is with uh ends up hanging out with a woman named anita robert is her name and she is a married woman as is he's still a married man she's a married woman her husband is a chef who works at the banff springs hotel in alberta which is nowhere near where they are and she is planning

to join him the next day to go out to Alberta and join him. So this is like a kind of a going away party. But the it's still a fresh marriage. Like they got married. He went off to work and she hasn't even joined him yet. Her father has never even met the husband. That's how new this is. Yeah.

Like her father, John, has never met this guy. He doesn't know him. It's I don't know if she just went off and what the fuck happened she eloped or what the deal was um but uh anyway she had a bunch of people visiting because she's going to leave her two sisters bella burke and laurette williamson were also visiting and her parents were there her dad was around everybody was hanging out and demers comes over as well he comes over to hang out out. He had met Anita seven years ago, so it's kind of been like on and off. When he's in town, he hangs out with her for seven years.

But he said that they had become very close for the last two years while he's been married and she's been engaged and married as well. So it's a little bit interesting here so uh on the evening of september uh 15th here uh demers here like i said his wife is a receptionist for the city of montreal and they're about to get a divorce this is uh the first time demers meets anita's family as well he comes over kind of for the going away party. And the first time he came to her house, and this is a thing because she had been telling Tony

that her parents, that she comes from a wealthy family, and her parents were very well off. And apparently, not only are they not well off, they're like really poor instead. And like the house is a super big piece of shit, and it's not anything like she described. And she's been lying to him for seven years about her family. I can't gamble any of this.

Yeah. Essentially been lying about the whole thing for seven years. But it's been hot, Tony. Just enjoy it. I mean, it's good. Anita said that she had anxiety over the whole thing because she didn't want to be found out as a liar. Demers, once he came over, said he didn't care care either way didn't care what kind of family she was from he's like i got my own gambling ring what are you talking about yeah we're gonna be all right demers though

he went out and bought three bottles of beer and a bottle of rye which is they're gonna all drink apparently and they all drank it it's the laberge home that's her parents name they all drank it. It's the LaBerge home. That's her parents name. They all drank it and everybody kind of got boozy when they finished all the booze among these few people. They all went. The father, John, Anita and Tony all went to the Koda Cook house for a drink. Okay, that's the name of the place. The Koda Cook house. And they all everyone noticed including the employees that demers was pretty hammered when he walked in like they were like oh look at this guy stumbling

in he showed up drunk he showed up shit-faced they all sit together and they drank some beer and some shit like that um but the thing i forgot to tell you this before they left the house this is a sign that you don't need to go with this guy before they left the house he had been like doing weird shit like he'd been like taking his shirt off and flexing his muscles and uh was telling everybody was telling people that he had six toes and he was like bragging about it and shit like that he was just a drunken mess and was like you know look at how strong i am i still got my foreskin look it yes it was because the the mother was like oh maybe you guys should stay he's pretty drunk and he took his shirt off to show that he wasn't a kid and he could handle his booze because he was muscular that's not how that

works yeah just be sober the father said he took his shirt off quote to show that he wasn't a school boy i think we get that I think we get that. I think we get that. You've got a gray beard, sir. You're fine. We know that you're not a child. Yeah. We understand, sir.

We've seen your giant, veiny cock. We read all about it in the newspaper. Your proclivity for busting loads in the opposing goalies. So the mother didn't want them to go out together apparently didn't want them to didn't want everybody to go out with with tony because he was so drunk tony argued with them at the house um they said that anita this is the mother said that anita seemed afraid of demers and yet fascinated by him which she likes the bad boy apparently which is what you would say in 1949 um they said that uh also her father anita's father said that anita quote seemed afraid of displeasing him

and did not oppose any of his remarks she was kind of going along with stuff um she everybody knows she's a married woman and she's supposed to be leaving to go with her husband but demers is telling everybody that he wanted to marry anita and um earlier he had introduced him at her at a hotel as his wife as well and um so anyway anita and her father and tony all go to for a drink like we said they go out to a bar for a drink here, to a restaurant, whatever. Demers orders, keep in mind, this is 1949. So a drink, even a good scotch is like 30 cents. You know what I'm saying? He orders $40 worth of drinks. James, remember how much 40 ounces of whiskey was?

$4. Yeah. $4. He orders $40 worth of drinks. Holy shit. Which is an obscene amount of booze. And he had like the money in his hand. He wasn't like, you know, he had like, I got fear.

I want this, that, this. He was naming off bottles. I want champagne. I want fucking shots. All this shit, right? So the waiter said, I don't think so. Why don't you start with one drink? How about that?

Because they know he's shit faced as it is. Right. I'm not going to bring out a cart for him. How don't you start with one drink? How about that? Because they know he's shit-faced as it is. Right. I'm not going to bring out a cart for him. How about 65 cents worth of a drink first? Yeah. $4 will get your whole table so drunk you can't walk. What are you doing with $40? It's not even necessary.

So apparently the waiter just saying, no, I think maybe you start with that and we'll move on from there. He, Demers, became really pissed off at this. Yeah. Like, how dare you not bring me what I order, waiter? What is that, by the way? I don't know what that is.

Drunk people being upset when they're told no. Like, what is that? Because they get upset when they get drunk. They get that drunk because there's something wrong to begin with. Yeah. Well, when they get that drunk and there's something wrong to begin with. Yeah. Well, when they get that drunk and that's sad and they're like angry and sad, then they didn't get drunk for fun. They get drunk to do something. Right.

And then I feel like there's some kind of like deep-seated thing that they're taking out on you from whatever else is out. You treat me like a kid. Everybody treats me like a child. Right. They start saying, everybody does it and then you're like behaving like one yeah and you're like what the fuck is going on but i mean it's a weird drunk person thing but there's a certain set of self-awareness that comes with drinking then once once it's gone that's perhaps that's what it is they're they're pointing out to you

that your self-awareness is out the window you don't realize what we see you as right now and then they're just like i'm not that you are you are you're that sir yeah yeah you are every time i've ever been cut off i'm like oh no what did i do yeah what have i become this is my fault oh no i gotta go home did you ever get angry and threatened to smash up the place never every time i've ever been told no more i'm like i gotta go oh no okay jesus someone else had to tell me how bad i am that's not good i leave every single time i don't want anybody else to see whatever that guy just saw no he became angry and threatened to quote smash up the place wow and um so And so Anita's sister said, hey, why don't we all go?

Why don't we all just leave? This isn't working out. We'll go somewhere else and buy $40 worth of drinks. What do you say? So they do leave. Anita's father goes home and goes to sleep.

He has work the next morning. He doesn't have time for this shit. He goes home and goes to sleep. Anita, though, stays with him and they go out some more she gets into his car it's a 1938 chevrolet coach it's a big monster too yeah it's one a big old giant monster car uh 19th of shit it's over 10 years old to drive to magog m-a-g-o-g yeah uh now demmers on the ride tells her that you know he's upset that she's moving to banff and that you know all this type of shit and you know i'd rather you stayed here

and um you know all this type of stuff they apparently i guess had planned a trip with her father during that during the that weekend but then she was supposed to leave, so it got canceled. So he's like, I don't like this. He also was telling everybody that he planned to marry her as soon as she divorced her husband. But she hadn't said she was going to divorce her husband. She said she was going to go to Alberta and live with him. So, yeah, Demers said that she was very upset about her exaggerations of being wealthy, that she got caught and she was embarrassed about that the whole night.

while it moved onto the road because, quote, he wouldn't love her anymore after meeting her father, who was, the way she put it, not only poor, but clad in his worker clothing with bruises on his face from a recent fist fight. He's that guy. A hard-working, hard-drinking, works in like a fucking mine and comes out. Her father's like Matt Dogvashan or something like he's pissed about it yeah exactly so he's a hard drinking hard fighting hard working kind of guy so she thought oh no he's not gonna want me anymore um so okay this is the there's multiple stories here like, they drove into a ditch at one point and Anita grabbed the wheel away from him to try to like, you know, she she was hysterical. The way he put it and grabbing the wheel and screaming and wanting to jump out of the car. So apparently he pushed her and then she called him a nasty name.

The way he put it, she she cursed him. Yeah. So this led him to hit her is what he said then he'll deny it later but now at first he said he hit her now his thing was he said he awoke in his car the next morning parked on the side of the road between magog and cody cook so they never made it all the way there and he saw Anita there as well but she looked all badly beaten up he said oh no

what happened here who did this who broke into my car and beat everywhere I am I fall asleep I go to the bathroom and people pop up and beat people I'm with half to death what's going on with this shit just beating them unconscious and leaving them for dead I'm a bad luck charm.

Happens all the time. I'm a reverse rabbit's foot. I'm fucking awful. So he drove the car, not to the hospital, because she's badly beaten, obviously, to his friend's house, Robert Pruneau's house. Yeah. house robert prune pruneau's house yeah uh who he had an unoccupied lakeside college got caught not college cottage yeah near the little lake magog uh and uh he gets there and then calls his friend i guess from his own from his friend's own house and asks him for advice yeah um this pruneau's advice was well i would take her to the hospital that's what i would do

that's he said there's one in magog there i'd turn around get in the car and take her there you know since she's unconscious and i don't have gourmet coffee nor a friend named the wolf so get your ass to the hospital i got nothing for you that's it you know i got fresh towels i can give you that but so he uh demers drives her to the hospital carries her dramatically into the hospital while she's unconscious and bloody um an entrance he identified himself for the step to the staff and said i'm tony demers i have this woman and i'll pay for any medical or treatment required just make sure you take care of her and he left her there okay you of her. And he left her there. Okay.

You know, unconscious, for dead. Just left her there. So she stayed in the hospital that night, and then at 1.40 p.m. the next day, she died. Of her injuries. Yeah. Holy shit. She died. Cause of death, a brain hemorrhage

caused by blows delivered from a blunt instrument such as a stone, a wooden board or fists. Bashed about the head. Beaten to death about the head and face eventually here. Yeah. Police go tell Demers about it and he expresses shock. She's dead. What do you mean and they said let's

take you on into custody and have a chat with you mister it's about 5 p.m she dies at 140 about 5 p.m they have him in custody and they want to talk to him uh they said that they quote promptly took him into custody yeah uh pending arrival of homicide homicide squad members from Montreal. Hama squad. Hama squad. So the chief had been called by the hospital there to investigate the possibility of foul play in connection with the, by the way, nude unconscious bloody woman.

She was nude when he brought her in. That is a fascinating detail. Blood, I forgot, I don't know how I missed that bloody battered unconscious and nude and was like i'm tony demers here's a woman i'll pay for everything have a good one and then he takes off uh yeah send me a bill bye um which is fucking crazy so the chief was informed that the man had stopped his car in front of the hospital and carried her into the hospital left immediately telling dr ralph budri quote she had a bad accident and i was asked to take her here so i just found her and they said hey when you take her to the hospital i'm like the uber driver i'm nothing here so uh they said the police said we

were given a good description of the man and it it tallied perfectly with that of Tony Demers. And the chief also said that he knew it was Tony Demers because he had known him for several years. So when he heard about that super drunk guy doing dumb shit looks like that, that's Tony Demers. I mean, we all know that. I got it all. I mean, we all know that. I got it all. So a newspaper reporter went to the house, went to her parents' house to get a statement, and that's how the family found out from a newspaper reporter knocking on their door going,

what do you think of your unconscious dead nude daughter being carried into the hospital by a hockey player? And they were like pardon come again doing what now they didn't even know she'd been hurt oh she was just going out drinking and going out and having fun and then the next day they're like next night they're like hey your daughter's been dead for all day and they you know you didn't know that they didn't inform they informed the press before the next of kin which is so fucked it's fucking really disgusting um her husband returns to quebec here for the funeral and um her mother said she was very very sad she said quote i told her not to go with him she should have listened to me i had a premonition

that something terrible has happened and when i did not hear from her all day today, this is a frightening thing, a horrible thing. I told my husband he should have kept her from going with him. It's a terrible thing. She was always a clever girl, well-educated and popular. But her mind was turned. I think made up is basically what she's trying to say there. Her mind was made up. I mean, this is this is a fucking disaster, man.

It just is. I'm this is this is a fucking disaster man it just is i'm this is she's 32 years old this woman i mean like a young woman not that it matters her age but still it's like you it's a little better if she was like 93 or something you go well i mean it's it's cruel but at least she didn't have her whole life ahead of her this poor woman like this in her 90s good for her you know yeah good for her maybe it was a car accident anything they're very fragile in those days but it's it's fucking interesting anyway so um yeah it's he is he is busted and um he you know he's sitting in in jail they arrest him and they're talking to him and uh they keep bringing different people and interrogate him because they got the hot they have the montreal homicide squad guys

they have other people the homosquads they got the homosquad then they got the regular cops too that they're bringing in to kind of buffer yeah and doing different things and all sorts of people are coming in so he's not even paying attention and then out of nowhere the door just bursts open and he's very surprised he's never seen this man before it's andrew theron hell yeah ice cream marketing expert and revenge seeking revenge seeking financial victim yeah and fucking hero. And he says... How is it you've come to arrive here, pal? Look at you. Ah, no, no.

I'm not listening to you. No. Tony Demers, look at you. If you played for the Bruins, I could give you a pass, but I'm not going to hear. Let me tell you something, and I don't say this lightly. I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to rape your wife. I am. I'm sorry. That's how angry I am at the whole thing. I've been threatened it and I'm threatening it toward you now, pal. I'm going to get her. I'm

saying I know she's getting divorced from me and everything else, but I feel like it's the only way you're going to learn, pal. That's how angry I am with you. This poor lady, you're taking her out in the car. You guys are driving around. You're fucking drunk. What, are you beating her up? What's wrong with you? How'd you like it if somebody did it to your wife? What about you?

Oh, you don't care. All right, so you don't even care about your wife. Fine. So what do you care about? I'll rape that. I don't even care. What are you doing? How about I rape you?

Hold on. I'm closing this door. Yeah, that's right. I got a uniform. I don't even care. What are you doing? How about I rape you? Hold on. I'm closing this door. Yeah, that's right. I got a uniform. I got a God's uniform. I took this. I'm a very sneaky man. I'm very clever.

I know what I'm doing. Let's close that door. I've read a lot about your veiny hog, pal. Let's see what you're working with. They were right. They were right. I'm going to take that with me as a souvenir. How's that sound?

And then poof, out of nowhere, he is in a cloud of phone records and investigative trails. He's gone. And Tony is very confused. Driving records and everything else. Tony's very confused. Now, Demers told them this story, that he left Cody Cook in his car last night with them. This is his initial police story.

They drank at several places in the Magog district, and then were heading back to Cody Cook. So not that they didn't get there, they went and drank more, and then were on their way back. So how much he's drank by now is wild. This was 2 a.m., drank more, and then were on their way back. So how much he's drank by now is wild. Oh, God. This was 2 a.m., and he said the car went out of control and landed in a ditch.

That's what happened. Out of control. They do that, yeah. When you're shit-faced. Yeah. So he said he succeeded in putting the car back on the road, but she refused to get back into the car at that point. I would, too, yeah. You know, because he's a shit fan.

She's mad at him. So he said he beat her up struck her with his fists and then put her in the rear seat and got in the front seat himself and fell asleep so he said he awoke at daylight and saw she was still unconscious so he was like oh no i didn't expect that i just knock i hit her a couple times um he drove to the cottage and uh he said that she had not regained consciousness effort after efforts to revive her so that's when she took her to the hospital or that's when he took her to the hospital the detective said that blood stains had been found in the rear of his car while patches patches of hair were found on a door handle oh my god that's not what he said happened that's something else did patches of hair found on a door handle oh my god that's not what he said happened that's something else

patches of hair found on a fucking door handle basher head on the door handle that's right had to have bashed her head on the door handle which would also yeah that would make sense everything now the prosecutor in this case asked to withdraw from the case due to what he calls quote close ties to the nhl so he's gonna recuse himself because he i guess represents hockey teams or something i love so um he insists that uh that she'd been crying because she feared that they would he wouldn't love her after meeting her parents he said quote, quote, they were very poor, and she had always told me they were very well off. So earlier, he's had multiple stories, by the way.

This is his court story. Earlier to the police, his story was that she jumped from the car while it was moving, and that's how she hurt herself. She jumped from a moving car, and he said that he couldn't remember if he carried, or they asked him, did you carry or drag her to the cottage? And he said, quote, I couldn't say I was too drunk. So this is bad. No road rash on her body, just a bunch of blunt force to her head.

She just bounced. Her head just bounced on the concrete. Doink, doink, doink. And then she fell dead. Yeah. She jumped and landed on her head 37 times. You know, like a cartoon character would. Like Wile E. Coyote would probably.

So another witness was a Mrs. Lawrence, Mrs. Lawrence Kingdon of Cody Cook, who told of showing Demers an apartment that he wished to rent. that he wished to rent. And Demers, who had told before of being divorced a year ago, had said he'd get his wife to look at the flats. That's somebody else he called her, Anita, his wife. Some of the other evidence concerned the question of whether she should have been treated for shock at the hospital during the trial. The doctor said he did not give her the normal blood plasma for shock because blood was discovered in the spinal fluid and it was understood that plasma was not given in such cases until the bleeding has been controlled.

Jesus. So, yeah, they fit by piecing it together with other people. They had several drinks at the hotel. They came back to Sherbrooke. They visited more hotels. They solicited. He solicited advertising for a sports publication in montreal in which he was uh interested so he had like a sports newspaper he's trying he's

shit-faced at these places trying to get them to advertise in his newspaper um they went back to the home drank blah blah blah came back did their thing went out to the bars um they had some arguments he like he's saying the car went off the road at a high rate of speed by the way also when she's brought into the uh to the hospital she's nude unconscious beaten about the face her nose was smashed to one side of her face that's how bad she was beaten her nose was not in the same place it should have been this is a oh my god of uh beating we'll get to the exact number of blows that were rained down upon her in a moment here. Yeah. He said he took her to the hospital at 11 a.m.

And then he went home to change and he picked up clothes. And he said he went to the barges to pick up her little barges. So bloodstained and went to the barBarges to pick up her LeBarges bloodstained and went to the LeBarges up her purse. I don't know. LeBarge. I don't even know how the newspaper is like weird and it's hard to read that. So I will skip that. He told he told Mrs. LeBarge that Anita was very tired and sleeping.

He went to get her purse from her parents house after she was unconscious to take to the hospital with her and lied to her parents and said that she's very tired and sleeping not she's unconscious and i dropped dumped her at the fucking hospital then he returned to magog to inquire about her condition not knowing that she had died while he was gone uh that's when he was placed under arrest and uh he denied that he he made quote any serious attack on her the um you know they talked to the father he talked about um you know drinking with them and doing all that sort of thing so they established that he was very drunk um and uh they also anita's sister said that tony had appeared in an argumentative mood and all of that shit. And when she last saw Anita, Anita had no bruises or marks on her. So this happened after that.

Now, the medical thing here, this is Dr. Jean-Marie Roussel of Montreal. He declared that the death could not have resulted from a fall unless, quote, she had fallen many times and rolled over many times. Yeah. Just what we said there were 14 distinct injuries to her body besides the several to her head besides the several to her head jimmy she'd been beaten all fucking over her body including her head to the point of severe brain hemorrhaging he also said internal hemorrhages in other parts of her

body of our he listed as a secondary cause of death she was internally bleeding all over the place that's how bad he beat her just a sustained beating everywhere of her whole body jimmy like her head her fucking body this is disturbing this is fucking disturbing so he goes to trial for this obviously uh he's charged with murder really here uh he's charged with murder um the justice uh um they said that uh um he's trying to say that i didn't know she was dead how could i have murdered her if i you know thought she was okay then I didn't kill her, which doesn't make any sense as a legal argument. But that's fine. They said that he's trying to keep a statement that he made out of the whole thing. The statement revealed from the morning of the death in which Demers told the police he, quote,

slapped her face and struck her with his fist after she had cursed him. That's the exact wording he used. He also told the police that he had known her with his fist after she had cursed him. That's the exact wording he used. He also told the police that he had known her for seven years. He admitted that he was dating her for the last two years. They admitted post postmortem photos shown to the jury of her that clearly revealed the black eye, broken nose, blows to the head and the body. The defense counsel objected to them being let in on the on the grounds that they were not prejudicial or anything immoral. That's a naked woman you're showing there. Yeah.

You can't look at a vagina without her consent. No, it's bruising. You fucking idiot. So over two hours, Demers testified in his own defense. hours, Demers testified in his own defense. He was described as giving testimony by a reporter as, quote, calmly, coolly, and occasionally with

flashes of humor. So he was downright charming on the stand, they said, basically. The prosecutor said of Demers that called him, quote, a good actor, a suave with a soft voice attempting to impress the jury. He's had a wonderful memory of what happened the night

of the tragedy but couldn't remember to answer any incriminating questions he remembers everything perfectly except for the you know the shit that's a crime yeah it's pretty funny i don't know my memory cuts off right as she lost consciousness i feel like it's as my fist is going toward her face i just blacked out soon as the uh beating started i really don't uh i don't recall much i don't know what it was it's as if somebody beat it out of me i don't know they called it abundant brain hemorrhages and um yeah he said that um they said black eye face was covered in blood nose was pushed to one side she looked like she had been beaten by many people who were very fucking angry yeah

this is terrible i feel horrible for this woman imagine being that father who is clearly a guy who doesn't take any shit i could i couldn't i can't imagine as a hard whether or not you take shit or you know i mean yeah but you were there i'm hearing me out you're a hard drinking work clothes wearing fist fighting bar having kind of guy and you were just out with this motherfucker and you left and then they left like if you were there you're thinking i could have broke his fucking neck if i was there yeah and now you know i left and left him alone that's got to be a lot of guilt especially for that guy i mean i feel bad for him i do i feel bad for all these people jimmy but not nearly as bad as i feel for Tony Demers. What is this? Regional sales representative at Bytown Lumber.

Yeah. And where is this? The Ottawa metropolitan area. There you go here. Tony Demers, co-owner and president at Bin 312 Wine Cellar in Providence, Rhode Island. There you go. Get some wine from those people. Buy some shit from them.

Tony Demers, credit analyst at Centrix Bank in Bedford, New Hampshire. Yeah. island there you go get some wine from those beautiful buy some shit from them tony demers credit analyst at centrix bank in bedford new hampshire yeah i don't trust this fucking guy to do my credit tony demers forklift operator at fast and l in overland park kansas yeah i feel bad for you sir you're not a very elderly forklift driver who murders women just he's 90 years old 104 years old uh so the verdict comes around yeah the jury takes less than 10 minutes to come back with a verdict holy shit that is really quick that's like a bathroom break and back in yeah that's it well we'll just we'll do the vote quick when we get out just everybody pee and then we'll do it fast. Raise of hands. Okay. So 10 minutes.

They reject the murder charge. Okay. They place that aside but convict him of manslaughter instead. Really? The lesser count. And they ask for leniency of sentencing for him as well somehow. Are these all his children? What is this i don't

know if they're hockey fans or if i don't know if booze was so people got so shit faced so often and it was so acceptable back then like now people expect you to know your limits as far as like you should know when you can't drive you should know all this shit back then they'd be like oh he was blacked out poor guy can't be blamed for nothing man it was a different era when it came to personal drinking responsibility like you weren't expected to have any so um yeah so they ask for leniency in sentencing the maximum sentence they can give him for manslaughter is 25 years in prison and we'll find out what the judge decides here november 23rd 1949 is sentencing. And just like the English, the Canadian judges put a little stank on their sentencing.

Let's get on with this one. This will put an end to your passions and desires that not even the tearful pleading of her mother could keep her from going on with you you drank a great deal that day knowing that liquor would make you quarrelsome and as a result you killed her you plunged this woman into eternity without any preparation oh good. Good God. During your sojourn in penitentiary, I hope you will think of the fate of Anita Robert and that you will

repent. You, sir, may fuck off. This is perfect for that. Fifteen years in prison. That's it. Fifteen. Takes the jury's leniency request at heart heart 15 years could have got 25 that is wild beating a woman to death yep and they for savagely oh and raping her too yeah we

don't know if it was consensual beforehand or not but he definitely had sex with her and beat her to death in the same fucking night which usually they're gonna say all one act fuck you you're going away that's an aggravator too and yeah you beat her to death at that point i don't really care give you extra aggravators no margin for that you beat a woman to death you deserve it whatever you get fuck you so anyway um there it's fucking interesting. So 15 years. Now, there's an article saying, this is from Quebec, quote, Demmer's sentence provides lesson. What in the fuck could the lesson be? Let's find out. A court of Kings bench jury at Sherbrooke recommended clemency for Tony Demmer's hockey player,

who they had just found guilty of manslaughter in connection with the death of a young eastern townships woman the victim had been infatuated with the athlete who brutally beat her to death in a drunken rage demers was lucky the recommendation for clemency by the same jury who declined to char uh declined to try him on a charge of murder in favor of the lesser charge of manslaughter was heeded by the justice gervais and he was sentenced to 15 years in the penitentiary instead of the 25-year sentence the Justice said he had in mind. So he was going to give him 25, but the jury made him give him 25. Yep. The interest of society has been well served in that Demmer's prominence as an athlete

did not operate to save him from the punishment he merited. His serving of this sentence will not restore the life he snuffed out, but it serves as a sharp reminder to those who drink when they know they cannot control themselves when they do. Unbelievable. That's not the lessons I don't think that you're taking from this at all. That is such a cop-out. It's such a scapegoat.

And it is light, I thought, too. It's kind of a light sentence and everything. So they're going to appeal, they said. This is ridiculous. We're not doing that. They announced the next day there's going to be an appeal going on, and it's going to be hardcore. They're going to go after it from every angle. They said the verdict with all this will be appealed on several points of law

and he expected that it will be taken care of pretty quickly and it is uh the appeal does go through and they say no i don't think so affirmed get the fuck back in jail asshole appealing it appealing it so the balls the fucking sack on this guy. Forget his cock. The Canadian press missed the part that they should have been writing about. The absolute balls on this guy. It's the balls, not the cock. And even on this, they couldn't be like, I don't know, man. The whole thing is, I wish they could have appealed and been like, yes, we found you guilty of murder now, stupid.

We found you guiltier. Guiltier, yeah. We decided that that other jury was not the brightest fucking bulbs in the bunch here, so we went with somebody else. So it is denied. So he goes in. Essentially, he's arrested in September of 49, and he sits in jail that whole time. He is out of prison in early 1957

so he does about seven years and change brutally with his hands his hands you are far too sweet to people with his hands Jimmy he plays in a Canadians reunion game Montreal Canadian

they're like come on woman murderer come on get on the line Canadians jersey and everything playing a throwback game come on OJ slap that 32 on your back and let's see her run for 2,000 yards again juice let's see if you got any juice left in those legs big guy holy fuck um he took this isn't even like a one off. It's against it's with like popular former teammates. The forward trio of these people. It was Demers. They said it was Demers whom the crowd showered with applause by the 3000 fans that evening.

Quote, by far the longest and loudest ovation was given to Demers, who was cheered for a full two minutes as he was introduced. Two minutes? Like, he personally went to Germany, cut Hitler's throat, fucking held his head aloft, you know, put it on a pike in the middle of fucking Nuremberg and came home. That's what they acted like. Two minute applause. What gets you a two minute fucking applause? How do you applaud for two minutes?

That is, two minutes is a long time it's so everyone listeners when we go back on the road because it's been so we expect full two minute applauses when we come on stage imagine how uncomfortable that would be for two minutes you'd be like okay okay it's fine it's enough. Thank you. Okay. James, that was 11 seconds so far. Jimmy, it's still happening. They're still applauding.

Why are they doing this? I don't know. I don't know what to do. Thank you. I could drink a beer in that whole time. Oh, two minutes? By the time I finish my beer, you guys can stop. That's it. I can smoke half a joint in two minutes. We could have a lot if i oh two minutes by the time i finish my beer you guys can stop that's it i can smoke half a joint in two minutes like we could have a lot get done in two minutes you know

like two whole minutes is obscene it's of applause that's why i'm trying to think of like lindberg when he landed maybe got two minutes of applause for fucking traveling flying across the atlantic and changing the world bruised by would be bruised by then. That's so long. I don't even know what. I'm trying to think. Think, everyone. Find another instance where someone got a two-minute applause.

I'm sure it's happened, but wow, I've never heard of it. That is wild. It's about two minutes now, by the way, from the time I said we came out on stage and they started applauding. Imagine if you were still applauding. We're not there yet. Holy shit. We would have just started the show.

I don't know. There's something wrong with these people. I'm going to start doing slides. I don't know what's happening here. That's incredible. They said Demers would also take part in various other Canadians old-timers games, along with next to Rocket Richard and everybody, all the legends. Everybody took him as he coached various minor league hockey teams and did all sorts of stuff. No one ever mentioned anything about he murdered a girl.

Canadians have the memory of a goldfish. That is incredible. Man served his time. Paid his debt to society leave him alone and they fucking left him alone no one ever mentioned it again uh the only next time it was mentioned was probably in his obituary on september 3rd 1997 god he dropped so long 80 80 this fucking alky lunatic lived till 80 holy shit that is fucking wild um at the age of 80 when he dies the cody cook historical society which is the town in between where he killed the woman was

they had this to say about him let's do this quote he not only paid his debt to society but he set an example of himself during his rehabilitation by becoming a model prisoner all the people that knew him thought he had really made an effort to redeem himself since his terrible business years earlier terrible business they call it about murdering a woman and fucking dragging her naked unconscious body to the hospital leaving her there murdering a naked woman whom he had sex with with his bare hands and cock um i assume he had sex with her with his bare cock and then killed her with his bare hands. And cock. I assume he had sex with her with his bare cock and then killed her with his bare hands.

Terrible business, they call that. Terrible business. He could have had a more storied career with the Canadians if he had only been more serious and above all, if he had known his own physical strength. That's what they said, Jimmy.

He didn't know his own strength could pummel a woman to death? That's all. So, that's all. said jimmy didn't know his own strength could pummel a woman to death that's all so that's all just simple little mistake it's it was terrible business a little that little mistake he made that is fucking wild and he wouldn't have had a more storied career because he was well done with the nhl by then he hadn't played in the nhl in six years five years until since the last team caught him for not showing up anymore. So he was fucking done. He is buried, in case you want to go see him,

he's buried at the St. Antoine Cemetery in La Valtrie, Jesus, La Nauderie region in Quebec. I don't fucking know. Look up Find a Grave, Tony Demers, if you want to see him. You'll find it.

There's a woman who wrote a bunch of his account of it and stuff like that and put a bunch of stuff together. I used a couple of lines from it and I just wanted to give her credit. It was Svetlana Boym. B-O-Y-M. They have this blog of this and a couple other things. So I just want to give credit there. Always got to give credit where credit's due. If I can only find something, some one

place. So can't get enough of Tony Demers. There are actual cards available from back then that they have. Opeche made them, which if you know anything about cards, Tops had Opeche later on. They made like, in the 80s, they made the cool Opeici sets that were in the off yeah they were really cool they had like the

weird like brightly colored backs remember like the 85s or sixes had those bright fucking pink backs on like the gum yeah they were cool looking uh they had those those were really expensive like hockey cards from 1940 obviously how much are they and uh i don't even know they're not even available on ebay right now but i know that they're out there for a pretty pricey amount and uh they have pictures of him too that are like five dollars on ebay but you could fucking find pictures of them online and print them out if you wanted it that bad they're not autographed so who cares that everybody is is Tony Demers. Wow. People have been asking for hockey episodes lately.

It's pretty funny because like four days ago, people were like, can I ever do any hockey episodes? It was this whole like strain. I didn't want to say like, wait till this week, fucker. But I was like, you know, asking for ideas. And the problem with hockey episodes is there's not a lot of them that aren't just a DUI. Even if it's a manslaughter, it's a DUI. They lead a fine life. They have one DUI, kill somebody, and then lead a fine life.

Like there's no, where's the thing in that? So I asked people for different ones, and one of the ones they gave me was Tony Demers, but he's been on the list for five years already. I've had him on there just waiting to do him. But every other one they gave me was exactly like that. And no offense, if you have them, I'd love to have them. But they were like, either that or this guy's rumored to have been friends with the Russian mob.

That's not a crime and sport. How am I supposed to do two and a half hours on? There was a rumor that he knew a guy who once did this. I get that those are interesting stories, but I don't know how. We need somebody that has multiple arrests. There's got to be a conviction. Right. You find me multiple arrests and convictions and send me these hockey players.

I will fucking research the balls off them and do the episodes. We're happy to do the, not avoiding hockey episodes because they're always fun. So anyway, that said. He's an asshole. He's a real asshole. Absolute monster asshole monster alcoholic maniac is what it is um he's got weak weak leg at least one of them is super weak so that said if you like that review us somewhere whatever wherever you listen give us five stars it helps a lot it helps drive us up whatever charts we are on that day, I don't fucking know. Do that.

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We talked about his childhood. And, oh boy, harrowing is the only way I can put it. Boy, did he cometh. Wow. I mean, compared to Richard Ramirez, Richard Ramirez had an easy childhood next to this guy. At least Richard Ramirez's father didn't do it. Well, we won't say.

We won't give it away. But it was terrible. Check all that out. Patreon.com slash crime and sports like we said anybody above the five dollar level gets that and they're going to get a shout out as well which we're going to do in a second here because god damn it we're appreciative of everything you do for us we love you but the other way you can get a shout out is on paypal and donating anything you want using using our email address, crimeandsportsatgmail.com to do that. That said, I don't know about you, Jimmy, but God damn it, I need to hear the names of, you know, our favorite, our wonderful,

the lifeblood of these goddamn shows. Jimmy, hit me with the names of these wonderful people right now. This week's executive producers are Kristen Sweet, Nancy Weaver, John Checkley, and Jordan Bennett. You guys are tremendous and you always come through. people right now this week's executive producers are kristen sweet nancy weaver john checkley and jordan bennett you guys are tremendous and you always come thank you so much it's really the the larger donations are there you don't have to do it and you do it and they're incredibly generous and it really it makes my life it makes i honestly cry every week writing this shit it's free it's touching man it really is touching uh thank you other producers this week are andy strats he's It makes my life. I honestly cry every week writing this shit. It's touching, man.

It really is touching. Thank you. Other producers this week are Andy Stratz. He's awaiting a new liver, James. Isn't that fucking insane? Holy shit. Yeah. Give him a liver.

Somebody. He's on the list. I understand he's getting one shortly. I don't know. Oh, good. Hang in there, Andy. You're going to get better. Alison Riegel got an interview for the number one job she wants, I guess.

Hey, look at you. She got the interview. That's not the job yet. Get that job, Allison, right? Fingers crossed, Allison. Get that job, Allison. Other producers also, Nicole Anaclerico. I'm never going to get shit like that. I'm sorry. Jess Finch, Pixie DeLeon, Liz Vasquez,

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Thank you. God damn it. From the bottom of our hearts, thank you. Honestly, every damn dime that you guys give us, every dime that anybody gives us, we are so thankful for, and we're always surprised and shocked. Overwhelmed. It really is. Thank you. Thank you for everything you do for us, and we just hope that what we do makes you think

that, shit, I'm happy to do that because I'm getting good stuff. We just hope that. If you don't think that shit i'm i'm happy to do that because i'm getting good stuff we just hope that if you don't think that it's good that's worth it jesus oh yeah if you can don't give money if you can't afford it and all that shit obviously we're you know take care of yourself but if you want to throw us a couple bucks and be whatever you could do that too so thank you for thinking of us basically is what i'm trying to say so much what if someone was thinking of you jimmy how could they find you can think of us, basically, is what I'm trying to say. So much. What if someone was thinking of you, Jimmy? How could they find you? You can think of me on the internet at Wisman Sucks.

Where can they think of you? I am at Jimmy P is funny, or you can just Google search crime and sports and small town murder, and you can find where the hosts and where to find us and how to get a hold of us and do all that shit. It's all out there. That said, it's been a fun week and a crazy week and uh like we said next week though mike tyson part one which will be a trip obviously because good god is that going to be a fucking party oh yeah crazy stuff uh thank you so much

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