Crime in Sports - #275 - Eating Your Children & Ears - "Iron" Mike Tyson - Part 3

Episode Date: October 12, 2021

This week, we finish off the saga of Mike Tyson, with an action packed episode, covering his "Baddest Man On The Planet" years. The whole thing is full of rage, and terrible impulse control! ...He grabs women, he kicks men, he punches everyone. But you're lucky to just be punched, because some weren't so lucky, with Evander Holyfield coming away with a little less of his ear, in the process. Lawsuits, accidents, arrests, cocaine... Let's just say that Mike didn't slow down, too much, and we follow him, every step of the way! Punch a woman in the chest & kick a man in the groin, "throw" your Ferrari through a store window, and spit your opponents chewed up body part on to the canvas with "Iron" Mike Tyson!! Check us out, every Tuesday! !We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurder See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 It's an all-new season. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. Hello and welcome to Crime and Sports! Yay! Ah, yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I am Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us today on Part 3 of 3, finishing out the Mike Tyson saga today.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah. Talk about an epic. My God. Like I said, we never really had to do a two-parter. This is, a couple people could have, but this is, really had to do a two-parter this is a couple people could have but this is we could have done a five-parter on this there's there's some stuff in like the last 10 years where i'm like well we're just not gonna have we're just we're gonna have to glaze over that because i'm not doing part four this is it right i'm done with mike tyson i never want to see him again i never want to hear his name i never want to hear him talk i
Starting point is 00:02:03 never want to hear a lisp tyson wilder three was fantastic but this tyson tyson three i can't wait this is the best i'm really excited this is the one and this this episode is the episode we've seen the first episode where yeah you know he he's like a he's he's wild he's you know he's he's being um he's out on his own he's feral basically you know what i mean he's being he's out on his own. He's feral, basically. You know what I mean? He's not under supervision as a small child. And then he's becomes a boxer and he becomes world famous and super rich. And then, yeah, obviously, the kind of the whole tabloid thing starts to get a hold of him and take him into that. And he feeds right into it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And then, yeah, obviously, he goes to jail for rape for four years, which is never going to be good for anybody. Now, as far as their reputation goes, obviously. Yeah. And, you know, because of because of it's been fuck, it's been 20 years since he went to jail. But I always as a kid, I guess, I don't know, somehow in my head, I got it locked in that he went to jail for raping Robin Givens. But that's not even true. No, no. He went to jail for nothing to do with Robin Givens.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Nothing. At all, no, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. Yeah, no, and he hit her. I mean, he definitely hit her, but it was, for some reason, it fell between the cracks. I guess he wasn't hitting her the day the cops came, or I don't know what the hell happened. Honestly, I don't.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It's terrible either way, but he's had a mess of a life. And we left off with him getting out of prison. And we left him off on a high note. He gets out of prison and knocks the shit out of this big goofy guy named Peter McNeely. Who then basically, he's a punchline for like two years. McNeely, he's on a Pizza Hut commercial getting knocked out by a stuffed crust pizza. A lot of things going on here. Now he's on Cameo, James, and his Cameo ad is from like a 2003 Corolla with Hello Kitty
Starting point is 00:03:54 seat covers. Yeah, Peter McNeely's got it. I mean, he made $540,000 for the Tyson fight, and I can't assume any more came after that, so not much. He didn't fight much longer yeah and no big fights anyway oh quickly before we start this though because we have a couple of things to again we have a couple of updates from uh things we missed last week that we need to get back on but quickly before we do that uh you know do reviews and all that stuff
Starting point is 00:04:20 thank you so much for those patreon this week patreon.com slash crime and sports are two episodes this week that you're going to get here anybody over five dollars or above you get access to both shows small town murder and crime and sports patreon the whole back catalog all that stuff this week we are going to talk about christy martin on crime and sports and we'll talk about the documentary that came out about her but just kind of a little bit more about her because she when i was when she was coming up everybody was like that's that's female tyson right there you know what i mean because she would just she was short and she would you know pummel people she hit like a monster she was awesome so and then her story just goes into something completely different with her she's not a bad person this isn't about her being a criminal but this is about crazy things happening to her and uh there's there's death and and violence
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Starting point is 00:05:35 Patreon.com slash Crime and Sports. Jimmy's going to give you a shout out at the end of the show as well and mispronounce your name because we love you, obviously. We do. And PayPal, you can use our email address crime and sports at gmail.com here we go mike tyson part three childhood a couple of things we missed one thing is i don't know how i missed this interview but he's talking about his childhood and i think this kind of explains a little bit about his personality because we had there there was a lot of kind of gray area with his mom where he said my mom started me on drugs and alcohol and i i found out later on
Starting point is 00:06:12 kind of to narrow that she used to give it to him from the time he was a small child to sleep he'd give she'd give the kid like booze and drugs to sleep yeah to make the kid go to sleep so i i don't know if she could do her thing or i don't know whatever so yeah and then later on when when when his mom dies he says that you know she was a saint and then after that he she he says that his mom never believed in him and all this other shit so it's a lot of mixed things going on with his mom like everybody i mean it's complicated people's parental relationships one interview he said quote I came from a dysfunctional household. He said, crazy shit, like your mother's boyfriend trying to molest your sister. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Or your mother getting beaten up by her boyfriend, and as soon as the guy brings back some liquor and cigarettes, they're best friends again. You know what I mean? You never forget that kind of stuff. That's not good and here's another one where this is when you're a kid i mean this is about because mike has this week is kind of about mike's immediate reactions when he should know better yeah like a lot of the things that happened when he was younger you're like well he's 21 he's hot-headed people are fucking with him you know he's on top of the world like happened when he was younger, you're like, well, he's 21. He's hotheaded. People are fucking with him.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You know, he's on top of the world. It's hard to have a clear perspective when when all of these great things are there. Yeah. People are poaching you. That's what I mean. And then as you get as he gets older in this episode, we're going to start out in 1997. So, I mean, he's you know, he's an adult now. He's over 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:07:40 He's like 31 years old. And it's a there's no excuses anymore. He knows he has also been to prison. So he knows consequences. He knows a lot of things here. And it's the fact that he'll still just make a bad decision at the drop of a hat. And I think this is kind of a part of it here. He says that.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Oh, my God. He says that. Oh, boy. This is wild. Quote, Eddie knocked out my mom's gold tooth and me and Denise. That's a sister who died are screaming. But my mother's real slick. She puts on a pot of boiling water.
Starting point is 00:08:16 The next thing I know, she's pouring boiling water over Eddie. He was screaming his back and face covered in blisters yeah her boyfriend yeah okay this is what i mean his mom is straight gangster man that's what well yeah she has to be if i mean christ and he said that he can remember giving the guy a quarter for some reason to to help him somebody who cares he said to to comfort him because that's what he had at the time was a quarter so he gave him a quarter that gave him a quarter as he and his sisters helped pop his blisters with a sterilized needle so they were popping all of his burn blisters and uh tyson was like here's a quarter I mean that helps I got you man yeah it's not a chill you up
Starting point is 00:09:06 so he said that the man used that and some other money to buy alcohol for Tyson's mom after that so he said quote he rewarded her for it that's why I was so sexually dysfunctional so he says he blames sexual dysfunction on a burned man buying a bottle of thunderbird for his mom i don't understand i don't know how those go together but i'm you know what he's been to a lot of therapy so maybe they've maybe that's true he might have found that with his therapist that that stems from somewhere in there i have no idea i'm not a psychiatrist but that seems like a leak it's like a scientist going see the Big Bang Theory happened because this thing exploded. And now here we are.
Starting point is 00:09:47 There's so much in between, though, not even to be like this thing exploded. And lizards are weird. Right. What? Lizards are cold blooded. What? I don't understand. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:10:01 What about all the others? Like that sexual dysfunction? OK, that's another okay sure mike he could have said that's where i learned huge explosion and flies like shit what sure so such a weird thing um here's a couple other weird uh little incidents that he had that we missed in the past episodes here. 1989, that first episode was such a busy one. You couldn't, there was so much going on.
Starting point is 00:10:31 1989, he was at a zoo. I'm not sure which zoo, but a zoo, a major zoo. A zoo that's a major enough zoo to have a gorilla in it. So it's a decent zoo. And I feel bad for gorillas in zoos, by the way. They're just so miserable. You can tell they know where they are and they're like, I could be doing much better things with my time. And now I can't because you've taken every instinct I had from me and made me rely on whatever the fuck you just threw me.
Starting point is 00:10:55 So this fucking- Make you play with a Samsonite briefcase. So some fucking khaki shorts and New Balances can watch me. Thanks. This is great this is this is going wonderful very happy with the way my life has turned out right because it's every other weekend dad has to have just something to do with his daughter he's got to have something to put on instagram so to show he's a good dad so um apparently he was at a zoo, Mike was, in 1989, and there was a gorilla there. And he offered whoever was in charge of the gorillas, he said, I'll give you 10 grand in cash right now if you let me into the cage so I can fight the gorilla.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I do remember hearing this. He wanted to fight the gorilla? I don't think Mike knows how gorillas work, first of all. I don't think Mike realizes. He realizes that as much as he realizes how sexual things and other things go together. Because this, you can't fight a gorilla. It'll just grab you and tear you in half like a piece of paper. They're the strongest things there are.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They'll literally just grab you and pop your head off and then look at it all like well that's weird look at that it's a head and then throw it in the corner and forget about it they don't have don't punch in the back of the head rules in their boxing match no and i don't think you could knock out a gorilla with a blow to the face from a human hand probably that would be a neat trick and i doubt that it's possible they'd probably just piss them off a lot and then they'd rape you before they tore your head off. That's all that would be. Oh, now you're getting.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I was going to just rip your head off and throw it in the corner like the last guy. Now I'm raping you. I'm sorry. I'm going to sexually pleasure myself with your corpse. Well, first I'm going to rape you. Then on top of your corpse, I'm going to sexually pleasure myself as well because I am a gorilla. I don't know. I got nothing better to do
Starting point is 00:12:45 because they put me in this fucking cage that's why i was in the jungle i don't have to do this shit mike needs to understand the baddest man on earth doesn't translate to uh the animal kingdom where you can't punch a lion in the face i beat everybody i beat all the men so now i'm gonna go on to the animal kingdom i don't care i'm gonna beat them all i men, so now I'm going to go on to the animal kingdom. I don't care. I'm going to beat them all. I'm beating them all. I'm going to beat the animal kingdom. I'm going to be hippopotamus. I'm fighting the hippopotamus next week.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Next week, Don King set it up. I got a hippopotamus in the ring. I'm going to take him in a second round. I think he could get the first round. He's big. I think he's going to lean on me. I really do. He's going to lean.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So second round, I think I'm going to get him. I see him doing it. That's not far-fetched at all and reporters writing it down because they're like mike he's serious i don't think i know it's not gonna happen but he thinks it is i'm right yeah he's got all the hippopotami all of them oh i guess a couple of them it's a whole family really you know because you fight one you gotta fight them all it's the law of the hippopotamus world time james remember that nbc show where they had like chad johnson race to cheetah or something race the cheetah it didn't fucking you know that's what he fight a cheetah you know that's what he does though he runs but it didn't have
Starting point is 00:13:54 a cheetah cover him in the you know run the cover two on him and hit him over the middle i think it's that would have been bad probably chad catch this cat catch this pass and keep going and see if this cheetah can chase you down and claw you from the back. That's just because Andy Dalton didn't want to face up with, uh, with six others racing and rushing. So there's another incident that we didn't cover in September of 1990. That's last week's episode about where there's a Ferrari involved where Mike's
Starting point is 00:14:24 got a Ferrari. And the story in the newspaper that comes out is that a runaway tow truck that was hauling Mike Tyson's Ferrari fell down the ramp and crashed through the front window of a convenience store in the Catskin Catskill, New York. So that since Ferrari landed in, you know, in a business just right there, right by the Playboys and the cigarettes like right behind the counter took the whole thing out. And the article says Mike Tyson was not in the Ferrari like right behind the counter took the whole thing out and the article says mike tyson was not in the ferrari at the time the tow truck operator slipped away from the scene before anybody could figure anything out they said so this tow truck operator took off so that's what they said uh you know mike was like i don't know i got my my car towed away next thing you know the cops are telling me it's in a convenience store i I don't know shit about it. Right. That wasn't true at all. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And Mike ended up being arrested because he'll he'll later say this. And I quote, my favorite arrest, I would say, was when I threw a Ferrari through a window, which none of these words belong in the sentence. That's a mad lib. which none of these words belong in the sentence. That's a mad lib. Favorite arrest, Ferrari window, Big Bang Lizard, burns, sexual dysfunction.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's all there. Mike has no connectors at all. So he said, I bought a Ferrari, but I clearly didn't know how to drive it. So she was zigzagging all over the place, and she exploded into a window. He just drove the fucking thing up on a curb over the window the car destroyed everything and i was arrested for property damage yeah you of course
Starting point is 00:16:11 you are stupid yeah are you kidding me obviously he paints a picture like nobody the car exploded and no man you planted it on the roller grill what are you talking about fucking tossed it yeah you essentially tossed a car through a window but you know i mean i threw a car man that's so casual though you've had so many amazing cars when you're like that threw a ferrari through a window you'd be like i had this ferrari and then tears would start rolling down your eyes it was my dream smells like roller grill hot dogs now i'm so upset i swear God, there's Big Gulp all over it. You have no idea.
Starting point is 00:16:46 It's slushy. The passenger seat is filled with Coca-Cola flavored slushy. It's not good. Blue raspberry in the exhaust. It's just not working, man. It'd be so sad if that happened to you. But if you've had a million cars, if you're like Mike Tyson and you buy Lamborghinis on on the prison pay phone it's not even a big deal he's like that's pretty funny my favorite arrest wow that's wild so december 16th 1995 is his next fight and it is at the spectrum in philly and um
Starting point is 00:17:20 this fight here is against a buff uh buther buster mathis so buther as i called him against Buster Mathis Jr. Buster Mathis Jr. is 20-0 coming in. Buster's been busting some people up. He'll finish his career 21-2, though, so it doesn't last much longer. so it doesn't last much longer. And that is due probably due to this starts with this knockout in the third round when Mike beats his ass, knocks him out in the third round, and he goes, that's his first loss. And Mike, it's his second fight back.
Starting point is 00:17:57 He's in the groove, 43-1 at this moment in time for Mike. So he's doing well here. All right, so obviously we should if you would roll your chair please don't have to completely is this the mathis fight this is buster mathis here fantastic third round uh here we go there's here we go and we will start it out he's holding mike trying to punch him inside yeah mike's looking calm right now a little uppercut he's trying to oh oh jesus that uppercut was oh he fell like a tree he hit him it's like that punch two punches before caught up with him he's got some stubby ass legs on him buster mathis yeah he looks like his legs are too short for his
Starting point is 00:18:37 body he's also a bit a bit heavy he doesn't seem to be uh in shape very well. Not in the best shape, no. That's that crouched position defense that Tyson gets into. Mathis tried to match it and tried to just short jab him through it. He tried to beat Tyson. When you get into that position, though, you drop him a little bit and your face is exposed. Tyson knocked the mist off him again. Yeah, he popped him right in the and tyson knocked the mist off him again uh yeah he popped him right in the face and just popped the mist you either if it's a bald guy mist sprays everywhere and if he's got hair it pops up like he just went through a like some sort of uh wind tunnel just
Starting point is 00:19:16 poof his hair shot all right so this is awesome it is so a few months later, three months later, March 16th, 1996, at the MGM Grand. So he's back in the big stage here, fighting Frank Bruno, who he fought once earlier, obviously, and who is now 40-4 coming into this fight. This fight lasts not the same thing. Third round, it stopped. TKO, 50 seconds into the third round, bringing Mike to 44-1. And we have that fight right here, if you care to take a peek. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Sorry. I should have told you just to keep your chair there. Okay. Here we go. Frank Bruno. And let's see what we got. Here we are. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Bruno's a taller guy, definitely. I always remember that. Big guy, too. Look at the confidence. A little swagger. And then forget it. Oh, oh, oh. I always remember that. Look at the confidence, the swagger. And then forget it. Oh, oh, oh, pummeling. Stop the fight.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Stop the fight. Stop the fight. Stop the fight. Mills Lane, get the fuck in there. Jesus God. That's the famous, that's a very famous Mike Tyson picture. Yeah. When he knocks the living shit out of Bruce Seldon.
Starting point is 00:20:22 He hit him. That was right, left right right and then dude was like holy shit and then he's like okay no one's gonna stop it right left left left right again motherfucker and then finally mills lane comes in and tyson finally walking away has the deal with his arms spread out just going like what the fuck do you want i just beat that man's ass do you want i just beat that man's ass silly and the punch the uppercut is like uh uh the punch out uh uppercut that you always lose to it's such a beautiful it's so beautiful and then he prays to mecca after that is obviously as well drops down he uh that wasn't part of it so but yeah that's that is that's the uppercut that you'd get the code and you'd play him.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And then you'd be like, okay, maybe I dodged that. I dodged that. And then you throw that one left in an uppercut and you were down. You were like, shit. Never mind. And they're counting. They're counting. So Bruno here, he says, Tyson says that, quote, they're showing him afterwards when he's talking about the fight and they were saying that bruno was always trying to keep his arm kind of around him and hold him
Starting point is 00:21:30 in there yeah and that drew a bunch of warnings and tyson says quote as you can see i was just throwing punches all sorts of punches well no shit he was just i hope so and then bruno said the most obvious thing in the history of the world quote mike was better than i thought he'd be it looked like it motherfucker yeah that's that's all it really really looked like it he was holding the belt sir i mean what did you expect yeah i mean he walked away going that was easy mike earns 30 million for this 3030 million for 18 minutes of work. $30 million.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Not even. 50 seconds in, so six minutes. That wasn't the third round? That was the first round? That was the third round. Okay, yeah, yeah. Oh, three minutes. We're talking six minutes and 50 seconds of work.
Starting point is 00:22:17 That's the fastest $30 million ever. Wow, that's amazing. That's awesome. $10 million every two minutes. You watch the till go up that's amazing that really is that's just wild man um so to celebrate this now a month later i mean he's not celebrating this but he's out mike's always celebrating you see that's the thing about mike he's celebrating being mike tyson man he's out being mike tyson april 7th
Starting point is 00:22:42 1996 is one of these nights where he's out being Mike Tyson. He's in Chicago being Mike Tyson. He's at the Click nightclub being Mike Tyson. These are all bad signs when we're talking about Mike here. Yeah. He's accused of some shenanigans again here. Mike. Well, let's call it more than shenanigans.
Starting point is 00:23:01 This was an approved trip on his you know probation and parole uh to chicago and he went to a a bar and reportedly meets a woman named ladonna august there and she is a beautician in gary indiana and uh she claims that somewhere over the course of this meeting this night she was attacked by mike and you know manhandled us basically and groped and everything else. Mike's lawyer says, no, not true. Absolutely not. Why would a man on probation and parole for doing very similar things do that? Why?
Starting point is 00:23:39 He says, quote, she was never alone with Mike. She was in a wide open space with Mike. Mike had two security guards that he didn't hire that we hired to protect and watch over him. And that was it. So they said that's, yeah, it's all bullshit. Supposedly happened all out in public? All out in public at the club here. One of Mike's people says, quote, I know one thing.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Every time Mike turns or moves, there's people out there who want to do their thing. I know one thing. Every time Mike turns or moves, there's people out there who want to do their thing, which is Mike. It becomes a target for the media and for a lot of people, too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's bad enough that he's out there doing dumb shit anyway and doing predatory shit. But then on top of that, you have people that see his dumb shit as I can just say he did dumb shit. And who's going to not believe that?
Starting point is 00:24:25 It's fucking Mike Tyson. So it makes sense. And then he cuts checks usually, too. So but I'm not taking anything away from this report, but I'm just saying that's that's how it works here. Usually with Mike, his friend also says, I give no credence to this report. I'll have to talk with Mike. The woman's lawyer, on the other hand, Jerry Lee Petit. He's a great name jerry lee petite he says that his client was treated at a hospital after she and then she was released
Starting point is 00:24:52 and uh she said she'd never met tyson before and she's accusing tyson of quote sexual battery and uh however a chicago police spokesman paul Paul Jenkins, said there's no sexual battery charge in Illinois. So I don't know what what that would fall under. It's classified under something else. It's classified under something else. Yeah. He said he was referring to the act by its Indiana term. And he said that to be believed to be comparable to the Illinois offense of sexual assault.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So that's what he's saying. Petit said his client called the police to complain that Tyson did all of that and then followed it up with a police report at the police station. And Petit says, right now, what I can tell you is we are at the point here where we're putting together a decent sort of case, if there is one, based on what we have from her. There are certain things we have that have to be sensitive for the sake of her privacy. So there you go. Very soon afterwards, a few days afterwards, the police dropped the investigation saying there's no evidence to support the claim that he took liberties and fondled her, as the police report puts it in the and they put it in the newspaper.
Starting point is 00:26:00 So, yeah, they said, quote, we did an exhaustive investigation here. We knew there was a finite number of people to interview and we think we got every one of them and they said that there's no they couldn't find any evidence of any of this nobody saw anything like this the whole time they were there they were seen by many people and mike then everybody said mike never you know fondled or anything like that whatever the accusation is yeah the law petite but yeah it is well that's they said there was i'm sure in the police report it's probably detailed out but that didn't come out because it didn't go later on the petite does say though
Starting point is 00:26:35 that he plans to file a civil suit against mike here uh he said if police decision is to not is not going to change what we're going to do we believe her story to be credible she passed a lie detector test so there's that who knows and we don't know that's what i mean it's i we don't have no goddamn idea what happened there no clue i mean seems like mike gets a little grabby it also seems like as we'll talk about stories later that some people are looking for money i don't know if she got groped i feel shitty about it that's terrible and and if she didn't those anybody that files a lawsuit on the on the uh predication of making money you're a fucking monster stop it because you take away credibility from actual victims it's true but there's also actual victims that get fucking money that should get money though i mean if
Starting point is 00:27:21 someone's a rich person that don't get it yeah yeah there's someone's a rich oh absolutely yeah so if someone's a rich person and they don't get charged by the cops they shouldn't be fucking off the hook then you know what i mean at all so that makes sense i mean if it happened it happened and she should file a lawsuit then it comes out in court and you see what happens you know what i mean so there you go uh september 7th 1996 at the mgm again fighting here he is fighting bruce selden the atlantic city express i've never heard of him did i miss this fight entirely uh maybe not maybe you'll know it when you see it here he's 33 and 3 coming in so i mean good fighter nothing you know not undefeated or anything but damn good fighter and uh 40 and 8 for his career this fight lasts a minute
Starting point is 00:28:05 and 49 seconds not that great of a fight not that great of a fighter where mike gives him a pretty good beating here at tko and if you want let us take a peek at this there you go chair roll and i will turn the monitor toward you let's see there we go we go. Oh. Bruce and Mike are... Oh. What was that? It looked like he just shoved him down from the back of his neck. That does not look like a... That can't be the end of the fight.
Starting point is 00:28:33 No, he's going on. Selton's going on here. There we go. That didn't look like a ghost punch. There's a left for Mike. Oh, my. He hit him. What's happening here?
Starting point is 00:28:42 I don't know what's going... He hit him with a left, and Bruce shot off the ropes and then fell down is the ref and his feet went the wrong way yeah that was weird no bruce is back he's back okay he's getting up the ref is taller than him nope nope he's calling it off he does look a little woozy look at his eyes yeah he's not right never mind good job calling that fucking round was that round one round was a minute 49 in it into the fight that i don't like that fight james i don't like that at all look terrible but yeah that looked like it was that guy looked like he took a dive well you know that guy certainly looked like money affected his decision of whether or not to take punches
Starting point is 00:29:15 off of mike tyson he was scared and if any solid shot he took he was like i'm going down that was solid enough i don't want to get by anything harder than that that was perfect done not even i'll go well mcneely they called it i mean that that wasn't even close to being over that fight no no i mean it was close if you gave mike 10 more seconds he was knocking mcneely out but at the time peter mcneely was fine he was still throwing punches and that's fucking his town his corner's like no no no no it's over but it's over clearly overmatched he had nothing to to that's boxing fight back agreed certainly definitely agreed you don't just go he's gonna lose then throw in the towel he has to be about to be hurt no no we were wrong yeah oh god this is a bad idea i mean maybe they should do that i mean if you start seeing that maybe maybe people should go, oh, Jesus, it's only the first round, too.
Starting point is 00:30:06 This is not going to, he's not coming back from this. Maybe that's a smart decision. But still, like, you know, for people who pay $30 for it, they're like, what the fuck? I don't know, man. I'm still on the side of, like, if you care about the guy that you're putting out there. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you see him throwing wild ass, like, fucking schoolyard punches and absorbing very professional fight punches. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Maybe take him out of there. Yeah. But I've seen like a football team be beating the shit out of another team. We don't just stop in the third quarter. The owner doesn't come down and go, no, no. You're right. Jerry Jones doesn't come pull the Cowboys off the field for their own safety. That never happens. they you know i'm
Starting point is 00:30:47 just saying and i like i i'm not one of these people it's like let it go till they die like i i want it stopped if if it's not you they first couple punches land and it looks like oh boy this guy's get the fuck in there let's not let's not go let's not let's not get brain damaged before you step in there. None of that. But McNeely was still fighting. They were exchanging blows with each other, and they were like, no, no. I don't know, James.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Behind the eyes, that man looked pretty well dead. He looked like that when the fight started, though. Let's be realistic. He looked like that when he was spitting his Boston poetry, too. Yeah, I think that's just stupid coming through coming through the eyes sometimes stupid yeah it bubbles up stupid to the eyes and you see it sparkles in there sparkles your eyes tonight are sparkling with stupid in the moonlight with the moonlight and stupid ah the way your eyes kiss me you dummy you dummy. You big fucking moron.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Plant one on me. I am shocked nobody's ever said that to me. I'm sure they have and you're too drunk to remember. Let's be honest here. It's possible. Kiss me, you fucking idiot. You dumb shit. November the 9th.
Starting point is 00:32:02 This is the big one. 1996. This is a fight Mike's been waiting five years for. This is the fight that was planned when he went to trial and all that. At the MGM, this is they had to get him out and have him beat a few guys up to show that he's in the class of, at this moment, I believe, the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, Evander Holyfield. Got it. Who is obviously evander the real deal holyfield we've talked plenty about him and i've complained about him being just the
Starting point is 00:32:30 most cheatinest holdenist headbuttonist fucking fighter in the history of the heavyweight division sorry i know that you're smaller than the other guys because he used to be a cruiserweight but i don't want to watch you hold people. It's just boring. I'm sorry. So he's like watching the Patriots play football. That's exactly what his fights were. They're the equivalent of the Patriots playing football in the Tom Brady era. We were like, yeah, technically that's correct, but I left the room a half hour ago because it was like watching fucking paint dry. I don't care what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:33:01 You're boring. Watching a clock tick. This isn't exciting to me oh is that how the gears move very interesting yeah even if it's a third round knockout or the patriots are in a 45 to it doesn't matter it's just boring the way you're doing it is boring no i'm not i really liked holyfield okay he fucking hated him he's just a holder holding son of a bitch you're not. I just liked how fucking perfect he looked. He was the most roided son of a bitch in the history of boxing, too.
Starting point is 00:33:32 He was a cruiserweight who all of a sudden was 215 one day of solid muscle with those muscles that connect from your ears to your shoulders. And his head was, he grew five hat sizes i'm sorry i'm not even fuck you holyfield if you're gonna say you didn't do anything look up evander holyfield yeah look up evander holyfield 1990 and look up evander holyfield 1997 and you fucking tell me that his head isn't three times the size it looks looks like a pumpkin, Jimmy. It's ridiculous. That's what happens when you eat a dozen chicken eggs for a snack. Oh, my God. And the Lord said, take steroids and inject them into your bloodstream,
Starting point is 00:34:13 and you shall grow large and strong. That's what that says. You fucking... All I take is just Jesus. I love Jesus and steroids. Allegedly. I love his punches love i thought he just looked amazing to me he was the downfall of the heavyweight division because it made it less exciting yeah because you it's like having larry holmes be champion like it's fine but it's boring i don't want to you know larry hol Holmes is a boring fucking fighter back in the day. You know, Ali was Ali.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And you're like, oh, shit. And Tyson was Tyson. And even like Riddick Bowe was interesting. He was going to the Marine Corps and shit. He was a nut. We did the whole episode on him. But then Holyfield's like, I just love the Lord. And I have, I built this stupid house that I'm going to get foreclosed on eventually.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And I'm a huge Christian. But oh, did I mention I have 14 kids by nine women also? Because I'm a huge Christian. That's why. The Lord told me to. And the Lord said, plant thy seed. Reap what you sow. In as many gardens as possible.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I'm reaping children. He's reaping a lot of children. So Holyfield's 32- 3 coming into this fight and in actual professional boxing not what he's been doing the last 10 years because holyfield his last actual real fight was like 11 years ago that's how long he's been fighting these stupid exhibitions so his career ends up being 44 10 and 2 so he really really tarnishes his legacy at the end too just taking beatings i have no idea this fight this was an epic fight this was a really good fight holyfield held him 96 of the time i would say he was just holding him and holding him and holding him which was the strategy against tyson he didn't hold him enough to
Starting point is 00:36:03 people say he's fighting within the rules and he is he didn't get penalized or anything he's fighting within the rules but and he's trying to frustrate mike he knows that the way to get to mike is to frustrate him and make him do something stupid and it's the way you do it holyfield's a good defensive fighter he's not real worried about onslaughts coming on he's worried about getting caught in combinations things like that so this fight goes all the way into the 11th round, which is a long time. And Mike ends up losing by TKO here, though. Loses by TKO this fight. So this was a big fight, and he did have a good showing.
Starting point is 00:36:38 He looked outclassed boxing-wise by Holyfield, but he also was in prison for years and he's only been out like you know what i mean so yeah you saw this i remember watching this fight and everybody was like that rematch is going to be a motherfucker now sure like you know now they know each other and shit that's going to be a badass rematch and mike's got a chip on his shoulder and mike with a chip on his shoulder is a dangerous mike tyson it's dangerous and you expected big things from this rematch and the fact that it went to the 11th for a dramatic TKO, I mean, it couldn't have gone any better than that.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And that's better than a decision, even, because that's more exciting, hasn't it? The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Bing! The queen of the courtroom is back.
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Starting point is 00:38:57 You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Right after that, we'll talk about uh kevin rooney uh kevin rooney that he's remember the old trainer who's pissed off yeah won a judgment about him that's still in the appeals process as we speak now 10 years later or whatever he said that uh mike was having some problems he said quote as soon as holyfield threw punches back he was scared That's what he said about Mike. He said he started thinking, what is this? To me, Mike looked like he didn't want to get hit. That means he doesn't want to fight. He doesn't have any true desire anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:33 That's all he said. He said Don King has wrecked him. He's taken potentially the greatest fighter in history and ruined him. Don King is cancer. That is awesome. I can't disagree with that either because he's a different fighter. You can tell the moment that Don King takes over and his training staff takes over and everything, Mike is a different fighter.
Starting point is 00:39:56 He's not the same fighter anymore. He's not. But do you think Rooney's right that he would have made Tyson the best fighter ever? Well, I think when he left, Mike was the best fighter. Was the best heavyweight. There was nobody up to his age that was that age that had done that much. So, I mean, he was on the path to that. He was the youngest heavyweight champion of all time.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I just wonder, what would he have had Tyson do different against Holyfield? Just fucking throw more balls? Train better. Train better. Fight better. Have a better strategy aggressive just have a better strategy they had a mike was a different he was just a different fighter he was a more active fighter and i'm not talking about punches thrown he was a more active movement fighter back in the day that also goes with age but his head he's always got his head going back and forth and dipping and dodging and that's it's mike style and he changes it up a lot as he gets older and becomes more more this kind
Starting point is 00:40:51 of straight up and down type of it's a different style completely i put it this way i think that a boxer it's not about your style and all that shit is as 20 of the battle. If you have evenly matched people physically and professionally, like a Tyson and a Holyfield, these guys are, you throw them in the same ring. They're the same type of thing. But at that point, it's all mental. Mental is going to be the 80% of it. That's going to be the difference. Especially over the course of 11 rounds.
Starting point is 00:41:21 That's a fucking war. Yeah, that's so far. Of you're grinding your heads into each other you're bleeding on you're sweating on each other bleeding on each other popping inside rabbit punches this is all this you know i just think mentally that buster douglas fight fucked him for life i really do it fucked him for life it made him realize he could get knocked out and that ruined his invincible invincibility in his mind he needed to be invincible because that's how some fighters need to be and when he got knocked out
Starting point is 00:41:50 like that where he couldn't get the fuck back up again i think he just thought that sucked that was super embarrassing i don't want to have that happen to me again and i think after that whenever he fought anybody that it's in the back of his mind that stung him back he was like, oh shit, I can't have that happen again. It's happening again. It's happening again. And you could see the panic coming over him. I really do. I think it fucked him up.
Starting point is 00:42:13 He didn't have the same killer instinct anymore. And I mean, who knows? I don't think he would have went out. If he had his old training staff, I don't think he would have went out in that Buster Douglas fight and been that inactive and let Buster and let that fucking schlub beat him. I don't think it would have happened. It just wouldn't happen. I guarantee it wouldn't happen. And I'm not saying that Rooney was the best or all that because he was a dick, too.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Honestly, I'll be. He was a dick. I'm just saying in the ring, if you just watch the product, watch Mike Tyson 1988 against Michael Spinks. Watch Mike Tyson later on. it's not the same guy also uh looking at from both sides of the coin and that rooney rooney fella's got to be the most bitter motherfucker and he is boxing that's the other thing because the amount of money that he's lost because of this is staggering he's still waiting on this he's got 4.4 million dollars still hanging in the in the still hanging in the ether there.
Starting point is 00:43:05 That could have been so much more. $4 million ain't shit compared to what he could have earned. Absolutely. He goes on to say in the sixth round when he was cut, he tried to get the doctor to stop the fight so they could go to the scorecards and get a technical draw. When he was butted in the eighth round, he started to cry. That's a fact. Holyfield, yeah, Holyfield, you could tell he was frustrating him
Starting point is 00:43:31 because Holyfield would hold him and headbutt him at the same time, which is fucking filthy in boxing. It just is. Guys that do that are filthy, and that's why Holyfield's one of the dirtiest fighters in the history. He's a dirty fighter
Starting point is 00:43:44 with this squeaky clean reputation the same way Larry Bird was the dirtiest basketball player in history and with this rucking reputation like he's a nice guy he was the he's the dirtiest guy ever and he'll tell you that too every player tells you oh Larry was filthy he's a fucking nasty player you know that's the same thing with Holyfield he was butting him he cuts him and then head butts him again and mike was freaking out about losing the fight later on because having it stopped over the cut so he wanted it stopped early so they could get a technical draw and just call it a wash so later on as he can't get to holyfield he starts panicking and panicking and you could see it um rooney said watching that made me very sad and uh and then he
Starting point is 00:44:27 goes on to say but i would work with mike again though how would you i would take a big cut of that payday though i'll tell you that much jesus christ man he said uh first though mike would quote have to apologize and make a settlement with me for the money he owes me he also said that mike uh seemed quote heavy not fat but out of shape which he's sluggish he did look a little bit he said holy field abusive relationship it is man it is it is it's like fucking that's a great way to put it an ex-girlfriend on instagram talking about saw that post with that new guy you're out you look a little heavy would you like to go out but in athletics it works that's how you get that's how you get certain people to perform so what is that good or bad you know remember we talked about custom auto being exactly like vince lombardi remember in that book i read and
Starting point is 00:45:21 he's just like vince lombardi and vince lombardi did the same thing and guys would say he's fucking psychologically torture you and then they'd win the championship every year and they'd get a big super bowl bonus and they were like hey fucking vince lombardi's the best so you know what i'm saying like if it gets the intended result what are we all there for but at the same time what's more important winning or your you know your feelings or who the fuck knows i don't know someone so unhealthy it's very unhealthy but it's also unhealthy to get knocked out so yeah it is what's worse for your brain a little psychological damage or being punched into unconsciousness by evander hollyfield what's worse we'll get you a therapist that's what i mean i'm really in this this is like the the father that we don't we always say like you know
Starting point is 00:46:05 should he stick around and beat the shit out of everybody with an arm's reach or should he disappear and never speak to anybody again it's equally bad i don't know which one is better or worse i really don't so fucked up the same results happen in all these cases yeah so uh he and at this point and this is true too he said that holyfield he thinks is pretty shot at this point i thought he was, too. After, I think his peak was the George Foreman fight when he hung with that thing. And Holyfield looked like a weird, big-headed robot at this point. Yeah, his face didn't change for, like, 15 years, either.
Starting point is 00:46:37 It stayed the same, and then his body age caught up with his face. It was really weird. So Rooney says, Holyfield'sfield shot but like cuss said great champions always have one more fight evander holyfield had a lot of character that's what tyson doesn't have okay which is i mean yeah there you go i don't know which one's in more movies james what the fuck kind of thing is that to say about somebody character yeah well definitely holyfield has no like cultural cachet because he has no personality his personality is i guess i love jesus yeah i'm mixing up personality i like to fight and pray
Starting point is 00:47:12 okay well that's not fun i don't know what that what am i supposed to do with that exactly and you i used to eat them little chicken sandwiches in the 90s from burger king they paid me to do it you remember that that, Evander? Somewhat. A little bit. A little bit. I don't know what they taste like. I remember I had chicken sandwiches and I got money. That's all I remember.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I'm not positive. Did I fight Mike Tyson? I did. Wow. Oh, that's right. Yeah, my ears fucked up. Never mind. More than once.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Wow. More than once. Jesus. So, right after this, let's go to Colorado Springs. All right. Colorado. Birthplace of Jimmy Wissman. Let's go. colorado springs all right colorado birthplace of jimmy wissman let's go where a man is shot to death after trying to calm his son after the mike tyson loss
Starting point is 00:47:53 what son was so upset he shot his father really yes his 21 year old son this is howard gomes 42 years old dies at memorial hospital from a gunshot wound to the chest. Police said witnesses reported he was trying to stop his son, Keith Lewis, from starting a fight. The witnesses said that Lewis was angry that Tyson lost to Holyfield and was starting fights with people in the house. When Tyson lost, a guest made a teasing remark. Lewis became outraged and tried to fight the guy so uh yeah joseph gomes said his brother uh told him told his son this is i guess his uncle this is the dead man's brother said that he told the kid to calm down and then he said the kid went upstairs and
Starting point is 00:48:39 his father followed and they started fighting and the dead man howard gomes called his son's mother in rhode island hoping she could come talk to your mother on the phone what who got what mike's who cares what are you related to mike tyson what do you care right when he tried to put his son on the phone the line was accidentally disconnected which enraged the kid apparently and he took a gun out and shot his father over it jesus christ they said quote the first bullet hit the wall in the kitchen the second bullet hit howard in his left side and uh the third bullet struck him in the chest he fired three times his dad fuck you dad tyson lost and mom hung up by accident fuck what the hell kind of shit is that three shots i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this if something would have set this guy off i feel like if not the tyson
Starting point is 00:49:32 fight if mike tyson going to jail eventually for sure yeah if a tyson fight makes you kill your dad i feel like either something's gonna you're gonna snap at some point and you know what it's better that it didn't happen into the outside world. I feel bad for the dad, but if anyone's responsible for this, it's probably the parents of some kind. So it's better the parents than like some stranger who didn't know anything better. This conflict confined to your walls is probably the best. The best. Not that I want that to happen, but if it's that or a stranger, please, by all means, kill your parents is what I'm saying. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:50:05 That's all. If you're going to kill somebody, don't kill people who have nothing to do with what's wrong with you. Have that. At least let's go to that. But don't kill anybody. Don't kill anybody, obviously. That's the overriding message. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Umbrella is don't kill anybody. That's the umbrella. You are reckless today. Jesus. Yeah, I am. Wild ass accusations about Holyfield. That's right. Fuck Mike Dyson.
Starting point is 00:50:34 That's why. You know how fucking many hours I've spent on this? Dude, we've done this. This series altogether will be about 100. Oh, I'm sorry. Not 100. About 250 pages of notes for three fucking weeks do you know how crazy that is i've written three screenplays in a fucking two and a half screenplays and it's ridiculous this is insanity so christ um sometimes
Starting point is 00:51:01 parents gotta die for tyson that's all that's all it is you know what if someone's gotta go down let's make it at least someone who's might be partly responsible it's all I'm saying if he goes outside and kills you you have nothing to do with him is what I get you know maybe the dad
Starting point is 00:51:19 smacked him once and that had something or maybe he watched his mom pour a boiling water onto somebody, and now his dick doesn't work. I have no idea. You have plenty of weed? Are you all right? You okay?
Starting point is 00:51:31 I'm okay. Very tired. You know me when I get punchy. I'm taking wild swings and accusations, everybody. Buckle up. Bird got punched today. Yeah, he did. Anybody else?
Starting point is 00:51:45 What other heroes do you fucking like? Bird took a shot. The Patriots deservingly took one. Yeah, I'm constantly ripping on them. They always deserve it. Holyfield's gotten it many times, too. I might have given Holyfield maybe more than he deserves, aggregate amount. I might have given Holyfield maybe more than he deserves, aggregate amount.
Starting point is 00:52:10 If you add up all of crime and sports, I probably complained about him way more than I should have. You probably hit him more than Tyson has. I think I have. I probably at least won one of these fights anyway. I don't think Tyson got any of them, so I think I'm doing pretty well, I would say. It's all right. So things are going bad for Mike, obviously, here. He loses to Holyfield.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Doesn't look great in it. People are dying, shooting their fathers over this whole thing. So what do you do in crime and sports? What's the main rule? What do you do when things are going really bad for you? What's the only thing? Settle it on down. Let's get married, everybody, because this is the time when you're going to make your best decisions. The weight of the world on your shoulders, and you've been punched for 11 rounds, so your brain's doing – it's really operating on all cylinders right now.
Starting point is 00:52:51 You need a mainstay lady at the house. That's what you need. You do. So he does. He gets married to a lady named Monica Turner, and this will last a few years here. They'll end up having a couple of kids as well out of this marriage. June 28, 1997 is the rematch against Holyfield. few years uh here they'll end up having a couple of kids as well out of this marriage june 28th 1997 is the rematch against hollyfield and this is one of the more famous fights in the history of
Starting point is 00:53:12 anything i would everybody knows about this everybody this is a punch line for years it's at the mgm again in vegas against evander hollyfield the first two rounds of the fight by the way christy martin on the undercard i believe in this if i remember watching that in Vegas against Evander Holyfield. The first two rounds of the fight, by the way, Christy Martin on the undercard, I believe in this, if I remember watching that correctly. She was on the undercard, so that's what made me think. Whose choice was that, James?
Starting point is 00:53:32 Let's do that documentary. For her to be on the undercard? I don't know. I didn't see the documentary yet. Mike goddamn Tyson. Mike Tyson wanted her? He picked that, yes. Well, she fights like Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 00:53:42 She had the same style. She'd get low, bop back and forth, and just come up with these fucking bombs that would drop these women. It was awesome to watch. She got booed coming out. That's ridiculous. Because the crowd was there to see Mike Tyson fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they didn't know that Mike Tyson picked this fight to open for them.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And then after her first two punches, they were like, God damn, let's watch this lady fight. She's awesome. Shit, never mind. My bad. She's a badass so uh this fight the first two rounds of the fight evander is i mean he is at his he realized that holding tyson and headbutting tyson if you watched the film from the last fight is the way you beat tyson and uh you know if you can get away with doing it if you're slick enough to do it without getting points deducted, then do it. And Holyfield is real good at that shit.
Starting point is 00:54:29 And he just headbutts the balls off of Tyson this whole fucking time. And in two rounds, I mean, he's headbutted him. And I can't remember how many times, but it's not just the headbutting, the grinding it into as well. He butt and then grind, which is trying to wear it down. So he gets cuts. That's what that is. It's a it's a cut thing so i mean you're trying to cause cuts and uh mike knows he watched that story play out last time so up to the lead up to the fight too he was saying that he hopes the refs are the ref has their eyes open for holyfield fucking headbutting constantly because that's his whole game and uh the third round finally mike loses his fucking shit
Starting point is 00:55:06 and and he bites him yeah now it's not just a bite he bears his teeth like he's clearly a lion an unchained uh out of control lion he's just that he doesn't try to hide it it's the only thing he can do in his mind um you know obviously there's the only thing he can do in his mind you know obviously there's other things you can do but in his mind at that moment in time the only way he could fucking do anything to evander holyfield was to bite him because this fucking guy kept grinding on him headbutting him and so he's he's very pissed off and you can see it and he bites him twice yeah because the first time nothing really happened and holyfield was like what the fuck and it was kind of like a confusing thing and mills lane was like whatever let's just keep this going and there was no blood or anything
Starting point is 00:55:53 like that it was like a no yeah he was like he just what's going on and then the second one he took a fucking chunk out of his ear and spit it on the goddamn ring yeah and they disqualify mike for it and all fucking shit hell breaks loose man that that ring turned into a fucking mob scene the crowd's going nuts booing and throwing shit and confused of what the fuck is even happening because if you weren't watching it on tv if you're in the back of the arena you have no idea what happened at all you're like what's going on why did he just dq why is that guy jumping yeah he's jumping up and down about his ear and and mike just looked like he had a fuck to describe him do you remember on the wire okay i do remember on the wire now you know do you remember on the wire season four when they're in that classroom
Starting point is 00:56:45 and the one girl slices the other girl's face with a razor and then afterwards the girl who did the slicing is just sitting in the back of the room like mad fucking calm dookie puts the fan on her yeah that is what tyson looked like yeah he looked just like that like i fucking had to do it and i did, and you know what? I don't fucking care. Like, he just had this look like didn't know what to do, and fuck, this is bullshit. And you could tell he thought it was a lot of bullshit that he wasn't getting called, Holyfield, for all of his headbutting. So this makes Mike 45-3.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And the aftermath of this is wild absolutely wild because first of all mike's supposed to make 30 million bucks for this fight yeah and it's held up at first because of the drop was by the boxing commission so yeah there's a dq right and the way it went down they're holding it up under an investigation um holyfield was got plastic surgery to reattach part of his ear there a half inch chunk of his ear afterwards fuck man did that even take though because i don't know it still looks mangled died it might have died on the i don't know what happens after it's been on a ring floor it probably had mercer i have no clue what the hell happened to it. It's not there now. No, he does have like a missing piece off of it. So the the chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission announced that Tyson was being suspended and his 30 million dollar purse was being held up pending an emergency hearing under the commission rules.
Starting point is 00:58:18 The most they can withhold is 10 percent of your purse in fines, which would be3 million, unless Tyson's committed found to have committed other violations. One of Holyfield's trainers, Tommy Brooks, said that, quote, he should lose his license permanently. He's a coward. He's a nice guy, but he's a Jekyll and Hyde. So that's his opinion. Tyson, of course, says he bit Holyfield in response to a headbutt by Holyfield in the second round that opened up a deep gash over Tyson's eye. Second round already, and it was deep, too. That was a big fucking gash.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And that's when Tyson started freaking out, going, why are you letting him do it? It wasn't a punch. It was a fucking headbutt. And it's just how he does. Mills Lane ruled the headbutt unintentional. It's amazing that Holyfield headbutts the shit out of everybody and opens up cuts, and none of them are intentional. He's just got the... You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:59:11 He took so many steroids, he doesn't know the swing of his head anymore. So when he thinks he's got clearance and he doesn't, he nicks you. That's how it goes. It's like when you drive a Honda Civic for 20 years and then you buy a giant pickup truck. Sometimes you bash into mailboxes and shit. Just going to say, you're going to nick your mailbox coming out of the driveway
Starting point is 00:59:26 and be like, God damn it. Shit. You're going to back this thing up. Unintentional headbutts, though. It's like they're just swinging wildly and they just tap each other. Well, sometimes when they're bopping back and forth,
Starting point is 00:59:41 it'll happen, or when they get inside, one guy will go one way and they'll both think to do something at the same time to make a move you'll see them it happens but usually when it happens both guys are like ah like they kind of go away like oh shit got it yeah this is one guy just burrowing down on another guy as he goes fuck you just headbutted me again right it's it's they're clearly intentional if you watch the difference mills is a great
Starting point is 01:00:05 fucking referee why the fuck wouldn't he do that i have no fucking idea and he's reffed i i don't know it's it's obvious that it's happening it's obvious and i it's a different fight if i the fucked up part is like and i'm not even throwing in for tyson just because i can't stand holyfield but as a person who watched the fight and wanted to see this epic matchup let's see it without headbutts and see what kind of match it is i want to see does holyfield still knock him out if he does great i want to see that fight you know what i'm saying that's going to be a great fight without all the holding and headbutting holy fuck but you know i don't know if he could at that point so tyson says quote he butted me in the first round and in the second round again. He kept going down and coming up on me.
Starting point is 01:00:45 This is my career. I have children to raise. I have to retaliate. How do those two things go together? I have children to raise. I have to retaliate. No. This is a cold butt.
Starting point is 01:00:57 So fucking weird. He butted me. I complained in the first round and nothing was done. Quote, he's not tough. Look at me. I have one eye and I'm ready done quote he's not tough look at me i have one eye and i'm ready to fight him right now he didn't want to fight regardless of what he did i'll uh i did address it i addressed it in the ring look at me my kids will be scared of me that's what he said that's that's mike yeah holyfield responded with quote when he bit me
Starting point is 01:01:20 the first time i couldn't believe it well that, that's, yeah, how could you? It's never happened before. They have rules and regulations for this. See, now, Holyfield, at least his thoughts are all connected. Succinct, yeah. Yeah, he's been hitting the head a lot, but nowadays I don't know if he's quite as succinct. But at this moment, he's still connecting A to B. And now let's see if he's walking on down to C. They have rules and regulations for this. After he bit me the first time, I went back to my corner and they told me to breathe deep and concentrate he caught me with a good shot and bit my ear and
Starting point is 01:01:49 spit it out look at the bite i'm missing part of my ear uh mills lane told him one more time and he's gone he continued to foul and mess mills referee mills lane saw it as intentional yeah he bit your fucking ear that's not an you can't bite someone's ear by accident that i know you can't do yeah uh mills lane from his point of view he said that he originally warned both fighters for excessive holding and after the first bite he said that mills lane subtracted two points from tyson one for the bite and one for pushing Holyfield afterwards. Yeah. And Lane said that he allowed the fight to go after ringside physicians said that Holyfield was fine. After the second bite, Lane waited until the round was over and then thought about it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:02:35 He didn't even let it go on. He said, quote, I had to do some thinking. That was the biggest penalty you can do to someone. I thought about it and thought about it. Then I said, nope, I'm going to do what I'm going to do and let penalty you can do to someone. I thought about it and thought about it. Then I said, nope, I'm going to do what I'm going to do and let the chips fall where they may. One bite is bad enough. Two bites is dessert. He said he's having dessert on him.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Don King was stunned afterwards, which I've never seen done. This is the one time where he's like, well, I I'm not sure what to say. To be honest with you, I'm not positive. I don't know what to say about this. My hair always looks surprised, and now my face matches it. Yeah. Is my face as white as my hair? Because I feel like it should be right now.
Starting point is 01:03:15 This is weird. He said that they asked him, do you see yourself putting together another Tyson Holyfield match? And he says, I don't know until I can determine what happened. He does say that Mike's purse should not be held up. He says they should be paid. They came to fight. Boxing is unpredictable. You never know what happens.
Starting point is 01:03:35 That's what makes it so great. That's not what makes it so great. But all right, Don. Whatever you say. Jesus, man. The Nevada Athletic Commission phone lines were tied up all day the next day by angry callers with the outcome of the fight. Commission Executive Director Mark Ratner said there were 450 calls from the people, quote, demanding their money back and saying Tyson should be banned from boxing. A San Francisco lawyer who bought the fight on pay-per-view said he planned a class action lawsuit alleging breach of contract by Tyson for not giving fans their money's worth. That is crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I think you got your fucking money's worth. You paid 30 bucks and you saw one of the most referenced historic things that we've ever done. Not just that. You watched a man bite another man's fucking face. You saw a spectacle i could see if mike was like just holding the whole time or like dipping out of the ringer so that would be something but you saw a spectacle you saw something crazy for your money um how often can you pay 30 and watch live two amazing athletes one of them bite another part of the other guy's body off how do you who does that for 30 bucks?
Starting point is 01:04:45 Nobody. You didn't see it until then. And in 25 years, you haven't seen it since. Nope. You got to see Christy Martin drop bombs. Fuck that. You got plenty. You got it all.
Starting point is 01:04:56 So Mike, a few days later, he has come. He's got a statement to make now. And it's very much conciliatory. And he's very sorry. He's got a statement to make now and it's very much conciliatory and he's very sorry he's got a lot to say here this is his whole press conference i have his entire statement would you like to hear how mike tyson explains this one here okay and i quote thank you for this opportunity oh boy we're very polite to start off now. Saturday night was the worst night of my professional career as a boxer, as if he's had other professional careers. I mean, I've had a I had a worst day as an actuary that one time. But, you know, besides that, for boxing, it's the worst.
Starting point is 01:05:36 His worst day is the day he bit Holyfield. How about the day that you were convicted of rape when you were a professional boxer? What are you talking about? I guess professional career. I guess he's saying he didn't he didn't yeah he was not he didn't rape for a living it was no purse for that to be held up he was not in the ring while raping no i mean don king might have been happy or cheering him on but he definitely wasn't making uh pay-per-view revenue off of it he certainly was a professional fighter at that day he was he says worst day as a professional as a boxer and i am here today to apologize ask the people who expected more from
Starting point is 01:06:13 mike tyson to forgive me for snapping in that ring and doing something that i have never done before and will never do again okay never again let's hope not why would you i apologize to the world to my family and to the nevada state athletic commission that has always treated me fairly to judge patricia gifford who knows that i am proud to be living up to the terms of my probation that's the judge who sentenced him um and in the rape case wow i apologize to the mgGM, to Showtime, to Don King, my promoter, to my team, and to this wonderful city of Las Vegas that has hosted so many famous boxing events. I cannot tell you why exactly I acted like I did the other than to say that when the budding occurred and I just thought I might lose because of the severity of the cut above my eye, I just snapped and I reacted and did what many athletes have done and paid the price for. I've never seen anyone bite anybody.
Starting point is 01:07:09 No. That's a new one. That's really new. I'm sure someone has, but it's not to this level. You have seen it in basketball with fistfights on the floor and in baseball with riots on the field
Starting point is 01:07:22 and even spitting in the face of an official. Again, everyone's still intact afterwards no one has any needs plastic surgery for missing pieces that's different he said for an athlete in the heat of battle to suddenly lose it is not new and but it's not right and for me it doesn't change anything i was wrong and i expect to pay the price like a man. I expect the Nevada State Athletic Commission to hand down a severe penalty. And I am here today to say that I will not fight it. I only ask that I not be penalized for life for this mistake. I will instruct my managers and promoters to waive any time restrictions so that penalties can begin immediately,
Starting point is 01:08:00 that I can show the boxing fans of the world that i am willing to accept that i have what's coming to me i've also told everyone associated with me that i will not stand for any more of the nasty and insulting comments made to evander holyfield and his boxing team doesn't want any more shit talking to holyfield i wonder what they said he said quote evander i am sorry you are a champion and i respect that i'm only saddened that this fight did not go further so that boxing fans of the world might see for themselves who would come out on top. When you butted me in that first round,
Starting point is 01:08:32 accidentally or not, I snapped in reaction and the rest is history. To those of you who say that I should never fight again, I can only say that I am just 31 years old in the prime of my career and I have made it this far because I have had no other way. I grew up in the streets of my career and I have made it this far because I have I've had no other way I grew up in the streets I fought my way out and I will not go back again I learned the hard
Starting point is 01:08:51 way from this past because I didn't have the luxury of schools or people to help me at a time when I needed it the most and I will learn from this horrible mistake too I have reached out since Saturday to ask my God to help me and renew my faith as a true believer i've also reached out since saturday to the medical professionals for help he said i reached out to you know everybody that you have to god the doctors you know got everybody on the team he said to tell me what i did and i will have that help so uh now i will continue to just train my body not just train my body but my mind too so that if it's possible I can get this behind me so that I will know I can it will never happen
Starting point is 01:09:31 again I only ask that you forgive me as you have forgiven others of us in a professional sports environment so I can be given a chance to redeem myself when my family friends my doctors and most of all my god tell me that i'm ready to do so 31 years old 31 years old yes at this moment press conference over an ear nibble but the press conference is like six years late you should have done that after yeah well he never admits that no he'll never say he did that he always won't won't admit it nope he denies it to this day to this very day uh holyfield's reaction to this speech uh said he said quote called it a good gesture he said quote i have no hatred things like that can happen but if you get paid that much money they're not supposed
Starting point is 01:10:18 to yeah okay uh here is an unnamed boxing promoter who works has worked with mike before this is pretty fucking stupid quote i think mike belongs in a cage he needs to be sheltered like you would shelter a lion or a tiger you lock him up except when you want him to come out and jump through a few hoops when that's over you lock him up again well sir this is a fucking human being you don't you don't do you don't get a dude out for our entertainment and then stick him back in a cage that's not how the fucking world works bro that's messed up you probably shouldn't do that to lions and tigers either no that's what i mean we don't even like that shit in the zoo anymore right leave those fucking elephants alone we're gonna do this to a 31 year old guy like this is crazy what are we
Starting point is 01:11:06 fucking talking about here jesus wow treating like a fucking he said you block him up except when you want him to come out and jump through a few hoops when that's over you lock him up again wow feed him that is foods under the door wild shit that you know you got to give him a tranquilizer before you get him out so he doesn't attack the staff. But then once he's like in an open field, you can just let him go. What the shit? Feed him quiche and pizza and waffles and pancakes. Whatever he likes.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I don't know what he wants in there. Whatever's flat. Give him that. Oh, man. So later on, while he goes on, he does a lot of interviews, Mike does. And one of them is with Playboy magazine. And now he says about all about Holyfield fight. He says, quote, I wanted to kill him, bite him.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I snapped. I was I was an undisciplined soldier. I wanted to hurt him. I never thought about what I was doing. Like you just poured a boiling pot of water on his face and didn't care type of thing so he also he tells the source later on which i used to subscribe to i love that magazine i love the source he says the worst thing people think about me is that i'm some sort of savage an animal that's just not true i've made mistakes we all do but i'm not an animal he must have read that
Starting point is 01:12:23 other guy's quote and been like, Jesus Christ. Put me in a cage, except for when it's convenient to get some entertainment from me. So July 9th, 1997, the Nevada State Athletic Commission, in a unanimous decision, decides to revoke Mike's boxing license and fine him the maximum three million dollars for biting Evander Holyfield. So Mike can no longer box in Nevada, which is obviously Vegas is kind of the at this moment, the boxing capital of the world. He it's what a couple months later. Yeah. October 16th, 97.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Mike is ordered to pay ready for this blast from the past, ordered to pay Mitch Green $45,000. That was two episodes ago he knocked out Mitch Green in the street. Several years ago. Several years ago. Even though a jury ruled him, the jury ruled that he was provoked into a street fight, Mike was, by Mitch Green. But they still give mitch green 45 000 i guess for medical expenses you gotta base that on mitch was asking for it yeah you gotta base that though on what uh you think mike tyson's uh deadly capability is i guess they just go this
Starting point is 01:13:38 guy's a loaded weapon obviously you can't provoke uh an ar-15 you know what i mean but and and for mike that you do yeah and for mike it's not it's not like he's like he went and beat up some guy at a bar like truth he went the distance with this guy like they fought before and he's a professional fighter and he wants to fuck with him so you know hey yeah you get what you get to me i looked at mitch and i went well you probably shouldn't have started a fight with mike tyson stupid that's a good point you know that was dumb yeah you wanted to run your mouth and look tough and not and look like oh mike ain't gonna say shit to me and mike broke your face you dumb shit don't do that you know how dumb are you that's kind of like building a bulletproof vest at home and then telling your friend to shoot you
Starting point is 01:14:20 yeah go ahead and shoot me i don't know i took some shit out of my pillow. I put it in there. I had some wood chips from the backyard. There's a layer. I used to skip plate from a 77 Ford Bronco. Come on, shoot me. And whatever was left inside my beanie bag chair there from fucking. Now shoot it. A beanie bag chair.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Beanie bag chair. I was going to say beanie baby and went with beanie bag. Although whatever's in a beanie baby is more bulletproof than a beanbag chair. That's just like foam. I think it's the same things in a Beanie Baby. It's little foam balls, I thought. I've never seen what's inside them. Let's open one.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Bite it, James. We're going to bite it open. That's next week's episode. I'm going to rip a Beanie Baby open with my teeth and find out what's inside of it. Let's do it. So, October 29th, 1990. I'll even eat some of it. We'll see if it's poisonous.
Starting point is 01:15:10 What the hell? October 29th, 1997. Mike is in a motorcycle accident where he skids off a Connecticut highway after hitting a sandy patch and punctures his lung and breaks a rib. Wow, that's very... That's a pretty good injury. That's a pretty good injury here, yeah. It was in Hartford, Connecticut. He was issued a $77 ticket as well for not having a license to operate a motorcycle.
Starting point is 01:15:38 You kind of have to have one of those. Why would he do that? Ridiculous. They said the Nevada state driver's license that he had says not valid for motorcycles just doesn't have a motorcycle license but he has a motorcycle he uh yeah he said he's expected to recover within six weeks but he's got problems his uh his friend his manager here rory holloway said we're just fortunate that he's okay it could have been a lot worse yeah he was uh punctured a fucking lung punctured along he's riding a h a Honda and he skidded on some sand
Starting point is 01:16:07 oh he was getting off the 84 which is over by my house there if you go you know where that is so it's about 10 miles east of Hartford he was wearing a helmet and a leather jacket but the impact of it popped a rib punctured a lung so good for him though that he was doing that the injuries
Starting point is 01:16:23 were consistent with a motorcycle accident and there was no evidence of alcohol or drug use either. So that's good. Just an accident. Just just right. If you don't know when Crystal Pepsi was discontinued, what was in Al Capone's vault or which famous meteorologist is Lenny Kravitz's second cousin, then you haven't spent enough time on Wikipedia. But that's okay. I am here for you. I'm Darcy Carden, and I'm inviting you to listen to my new podcast, WikiHole, from SmartList Media. Discover the craziest rabbit holes on Wikipedia with me and my funny friends as we bring the cyber frontier directly to your tympanic membrane.
Starting point is 01:17:00 And if you listen to my podcast, you'd learn that that's the science-y term for eardrum. We embark on a hyperlink roller coaster as we start out on a Wikipedia page and go from link to link to link to link, careening through trivia, oddities, and unexpected connections until we collectively shout, how the hell did we get here? Follow WikiHole on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to WikiHole ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. It's bad, that's all. January 19th, 1998, Monday Night Raw. The WWF, okay, at the time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:41 He appears on Monday Night Raw, and he was you know everybody knew who the fuck he was and he's introduced by the announcer and um you know all this type of shit here's mike tyson in the crowd tonight and they made a big deal out of it made it seem like you know the the angle is mike's just a fan of wrestling and he's here to see it and we're going to talk to mike and they say like oh we'll hope hopefully we'll see him in one of our rings one of these days and all that kind of shit. You know, it's all corny shit. There's a little interview segment where Tyson says that he's been a huge wrestling fan since he was eight or nine and all that sort of thing. And, you know, all of this type of shit.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And then Stone Cold Steve Austin comes out, you know, with the breaking glass and all that crap. Steve Austin comes in. Mike Tyson goes to shake his hand and Austin won't shake his hand. I don't want to shake your hand and all that kind of shit. He said he didn't come here to make any friends, and this is the funny part. Tyson just trying to very calmly calm him down, because this is what Mike would be doing in real life, I'm sure. He wouldn't have already broken his skull open.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Fucking, who are we kidding here? With both of his Coors Light cans. Yeah. Two beer cans would have flew up in the air as Steve Austin went flying out of the ring. He, Tyson tried to, you know, calm him down. Tyson went ahead of him and said, I ain't your wife, motherfucker. Yeah, Steve Austin taking a swing at him too. Shouldn't have beat your fucking wife up, dummy.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I don't care. Anybody else you like so he's in there it's so wild today i'm out of control man i don't care so steve austin says that uh you know what you've done in the boxing world is amazing, but you can't step in Steve Austin's world. He does all that shit. So then he goes on to flip Mike Tyson off and do all that kind of crap. And then Tyson apparently, you know, he starts acting mad and all this shit and gives shove Steve Austin. That's a big thing. Give Steve Austin a big push.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And then there's like eighteen hundred cops and officials in the ring and you know Tyson's trying to get at him and Austin's talking shit and it's you know they're gonna fight oh my god so it all culminates at Wrestlemania coming up there oh god in Wrestlemania it's Michaels Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold Steve Austin are fighting here. That's the main event of the night. And they're outside the ring and Michaels gets up and lands an elbow drop on him and all this shit. And he's trying to, he's getting ready to do that stupid super kick
Starting point is 01:20:16 that he did there. He stands there and he's getting ready to kick you. So Austin ducked the super kick and he tries to give the stunner to Michaels. And Michaels turned around and was thrown in the ropes. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, he ends up kicking Steve Austin there. And he misses Steve.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Whatever the fuck happened, he ends up hitting him with the stone cold stunner. All right. That's the way it works. And that's how that happened. the way it works and uh that's how that happened tyson who is the ringside enforcer slash referee i guess is the way they have it set up here he's just wandering around the outside of the ring looking tough and imposing he jumps in the ring and then he has a uh puts on an austin 316 t-shirt there tyson tyson and him and austin are on the same side it was a big swerve on michaels right so that's what ends up happening there haha i got in and counted you out because the referee had
Starting point is 01:21:19 gone down before that like the screw job right they screwed yeah aha we got you so um anyway they they do that sean michaels is like what the fuck to tyson and tyson punches him and fucking knocks him out obviously sean michaels sells that like crazy spit flies out of his mouth fucking feet come up in the air he does all of that exploded his own head he would have oh he would have been like how do i get my eyeball to pop out could i get it back in anybody know how to put an eyeball back in it'll look great so he uh and then tyson put the austin 316 t-shirt on top of uh okay sean michaels there and that was the whole thing and they go off into the night and it's tyson and stone cold they're buddies now so now they're friends now they're friends there you go yay march 5th 1998 he if i mike files a 100 million dollar lawsuit he's like i like filing them more
Starting point is 01:22:13 than i like having them filed on me in u.s uh u.s district court against don king okay this is yes huh absolutely accusing the promoter of cheating him out of tens of millions of dollars he uh it was there was a big rumor going around that this was after a falling out over the weekend where tyson was said to have slapped or kicked king in the face over the weekend uh they said though come monday don didn't any marks, so they don't know if that's true. Who knows? We have no idea. So they said that everybody has their opinion on this as well, too. Every article talks about how this person fucked him over and that person fucked him over.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I guess he hired two guys, John Horn and then Rory Holloway, who he quoted earlier. They took a total of 20% of the purse of the last fight from tyson wow 20 of 30 million dollars is 27 million after the fine that's a lot it's a lot of fucking money six million dollars it is that's a lot yeah six million dollars and uh allegedly also allowed king to take 30 so mike only got half the money for that fight he gets 15 million dollars out of 30 and how much do you want to bet that wasn't after the fine they took their cuts yeah pre-fine and then mike ate the three million two yeah he ended up with 12 i bet and with that it's almost like don king made more money than mike gee weird right isn't weird how that always seems to work out like that for don king it's very odd never took a punt a day in his life
Starting point is 01:23:45 and then they said this is in an article you know how much percentage king took out of evander holyfield's purse what oh zero point nothing nothing not a thing not anything holyfield is his own manager he has a friend of his who's an attorney who's his attorney and advisor that works for him. And that's it. That's pretty much what he ever what he does there. So, yeah, it's pretty interesting. Who says this here? Somebody says, quote, What Horn and Holloway do? What do they do?
Starting point is 01:24:16 Asked one fight manager who wouldn't give his name. They didn't line up fights for Mike. Don King did all that. They're supposed to have a fiduciary relationship with Mike, but they didn care for him they also said don't feel sorry for tyson don't run a benefit or anything as if he's broke as some wishful thinkers say he's uh he's broke but not financially somebody says so i thought that was pretty fucking funny he's broke but let's calm down he's broke but it's between the ears it's other things yeah tyson also reportedly is in talks with magic johnson who wants to get into the fight promoting
Starting point is 01:24:52 game he decided to get out of that and buy the dodgers instead so that's pretty fucking funny that's awesome magic has done great for himself he really has he's done amazing so uh that though they when they called magic johnson's office they gave a big no comment on that one didn't want any part of talking about that he was billed by this is fucking wild he was billed by the promoter for a hundred this is by don king tyson was billed a hundred and fifty thousand dollars in yearly salaries for don king's children. What? Debbie, Don King's daughter Debbie, was president of the Mike Tyson fan club that never delivered his fan mail to him,
Starting point is 01:25:32 allegedly, apparently. Yeah, they just got money. And Carl and Eric were, quote, advisors. Oh. That. Everybody got 50 grand a year. Wow. To do nothing.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Everyone had their hand in his fucking pocket that's a fact uh the frank warren the former uh one of don king's former partners calls don king a judas and says quote don always told me that mike was his partner but his name was not in any of the contracts i had with don king promotions uh so i guess don king caught himself in on the on tyson's uh on tight he was trying to get himself in on tyson's vince mcmahon money which was a couple million bucks allegedly it was big money right for mike tyson nothing to do with don at all no it was reported king wanted a piece of all of that shit and uh he also wanted a piece of mike's uh like merchandising rights like basically trademarking his likeness and all that kind of shit he wanted in on that
Starting point is 01:26:31 and um yeah it's a little much so mike says no thank you tyson still owes don king contractually four fights and so with don king and showtime there, and apparently his lawyer here believes there's a way out and wants out of it. That's how it is here. So they said there's reports that Tyson's down to his last $150,000, and King spokesman Howie Evans said, quote, if Mike is down to his last $150,000, I'll send him a check. Well, how about for the millions he says you guys
Starting point is 01:27:05 took here they say that tyson has about 40 million in trust funds being administered by one of the big six accounting firms they said the idea was don's he told mike to take care of the kids so he's got a big trust which everybody sets up that seems smart just to for a tax purposes of nothing else and i'm just sitting in a bank account somewhere. So he also owes a shitload of taxes. Mike does at this moment. Really? He owes $7 million in taxes right now.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Oh, my God. I would shit blood if I got that in the mail. Every day. Right then. Wouldn't even when I went to the bad, just blood would shoot out of my asshole if I got $7 million tax bill. First of all, I'd be like, I haven't made $7 million dollars in my life so how the fuck do i owe you that seven million dollars second of all yeah i need new underwear who was in charge of paying this and who didn't pay it you're fired who didn't pay it and how the fuck do we owe more than i've ever made can we figure that out first
Starting point is 01:28:02 so uh they said the taxes may just be his quarterly bill as well as the speculation wow that's his quarterly bill uh they said the uh his account or his lawyer one of these people said that he the bill quote could mean something to you or me but not to someone as wealthy as Tyson. Seven million's a lot to anybody, except for, you know, unless you're going to space for fun. Seven million dollars is a lot of money. You know? A limited number of people.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Unless you and another guy have a space race together. Remember when countries did that, and now it's just dudes? Yeah, it's like, I'll go, no, fucking I'll go. Yeah, we've given up. Just let that guy go, you know, because that's, it's like i'll go no fucking i'll go yeah we've given up just let that guy go you know because that's that's it's like as a society we decided there's better shit to spend money on than fucking around in space like let's let's fix a couple of things first and then these guys are like oh no there isn't we're gonna not for so that people can get around this country i'm gonna try
Starting point is 01:29:02 to get to mars i'm gonna get to mars yeah i for, you see, it's not enough for my ego. That's the thing. So I want us to really get out there and space is big enough for my ego. That's where we're going. And I need to do it in a giant penis. An obvious penis. There is nothing that doesn't look anything like anything but a penis. How would you design it, Jimmy?
Starting point is 01:29:24 Got a better idea? obviously the tip has to be bulbous we will start with that start with the bulbous tip i wanted like fucking like bulbous i put some balls on it what are we doing here what are we doing it looked like he went to space on what mckenzie used to use when he was on business trips. I love it. I love it, man. Fucking jerk. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Fucking hate that guy so much. Oh, man. Jesus Christ. And that's why she left, sir. And that's why people take off so fuck i'm with you i'm just uh this is awesome here i'm having a good time today that's all enjoying myself i just sat back and everybody's taking shots up to and including bezzos and Elon. I don't give a shit. Anybody else? Step right up.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Step right up. Don't give a shit. Everybody can suck a dick today. Now, not you fine listeners. You guys are terrific. You're terrific. The people that we're talking shit about. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:30:41 You tell them to suck your dick too while we're at it. Monsters can suck all of our dicks. All of dicks collectively our collective crime and sports cock so uh people say he's not broke though uh one the uh one guy says here a publicist for king's rival promoter here says quote at least mike still has his gold teeth i don't know if they're paid for but at least they work so he they're trying to say don king robbed him yeah so uh bill kate but his gold fillings of everything but his fillings bill caton says that's his ex-business manager he says quote mike has to accept at least some of the blame for his decline he let himself go he gave up on being a professional fighter that's why he never regained his skills i believe mike is more to be pitied than censured cold-blooded don king's got other problem too he's problems here he's got a trial on uh insurance charge fraud charges he's got to do here um
Starting point is 01:31:38 it's a it's a goddamn mess so he's doing. Don King's got a lot of problems right now. Mike decides, though, he's going to take control of his own affairs. And he says that by saying, quote, I've taken control of my own affairs. Exactly what he says. Confirm what James's opinion is. It's exactly what he said. Everybody, I have an announcement. He said, quote, I've hired new attorneys and accountants who report directly to me. I formed Mike Tyson Enterprises, and I'm in the process of moving forward with my life.
Starting point is 01:32:10 He said he terminated the contracts of his managers, Horn and Holloway, and he split with Don King, which will be bitterly contested, obviously. He also wouldn't address the fact that everybody says that he's broke and all this type of shit. Nothing there. So, yeah, he does that. He he files a lawsuit against his managers as well. Here, Rory Holloway and John Horn claiming they betrayed him by arranging a deal that made King the the exclusive promoter without Mike's permission. Yeah. Consent. King, the exclusive promoter without Mike's permission and consent. March
Starting point is 01:32:45 9th, 1998, the same day, same day, Sherry Cole and Chevelle Butts file a $22 million lawsuit against Mike Tyson claiming he verbally and physically abused them March 1st at a Washington bistro
Starting point is 01:33:01 and then at a restaurant after he made sexual advances toward one of them and was spurned mike is like good god man yeah he wanted to fuck one and they said he hit and yelled at one or both of them after that they denied him uh july 16th 1998 the u.s the second u.s circuit court of appeals reinstates a $4.4 million reward that a jury decided that Tyson owes Kevin Rooney for unjustly firing him. He's getting his money. He's apparently getting his money. Well, that's only the second.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Let's go up the circuits and we'll see how far that goes. Rooney's probably still waiting for his money. He might be right. I swear to God, he's going to eventually. July 17, 1998, Mike applies for a boxing license in New Jersey. Can't have one in Nevada, so why not? He appears before the New Jersey Athletic Control Board to get a license to resume his career. First, he chokes back tears.
Starting point is 01:33:57 He apologizes for biting Holyfield's ear. Yeah. And then they kept asking him questions. And he said, quote, why do I have to relive this fucking shit all the time? Yeah. And then he says, quote, how many times does an individual have to be asked, are you sorry for what you did? You're seeing a guy being ripped apart. The crucifixion has to come to an end.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Oh, Michael. Mike. We did watch a man being torn apart live on tv with another man's mouth yeah you just didn't use a fork and knife was the only difference this was a 35 minute appearance and uh he cursed at them and it really didn't go very well we'll put it that way yeah so um then the on the eve of the meeting where they're supposed to decide they're having their meeting to decide it's like two weeks after he's there he abruptly withdraws his application for a new jersey state boxing license he doesn't think he's going to get it and i think he's heard through the grapevine it ain't gonna happen so he's like fuck that
Starting point is 01:35:00 then you sit for 35 minutes motherfucking them you You're not going to get what you want. It's probably not going to. Why? The crucifixion has to end. Right. Oh, boy. Christ complex a little, Mike, or what? You literally said crucifixion. So August 31st, 1998, Mike is involved in a minor auto accident in Gaithersburg, Maryland,
Starting point is 01:35:20 where his wife is driving, and he has to be restrained by bodyguards from beating up other drivers involved in this whole thing yeah it's a minor thing i think this was it's a fender bender i think one person hit one there ended up being three cars involved everybody getting dinged a little bit not a huge deal not the end of the world the car that mike was riding in was worth the most i think it was probably worth more than all the other cars put together probably yeah yeah he just throws a ferrari through a window and doesn't and laughs about it yeah mike is the passenger in a mercedes convertible driven by his wife who struck he she rear-ended the car in front of them okay that's how it goes then mike gets out of the car and appeared to want to fight the other driver he's restrained by his wife and members of a security detail who were traveling in a second car behind Mike and Monica.
Starting point is 01:36:10 This guy has to have people follow them in a car in case he starts trying to beat somebody up in the road because his wife can't hold him back. That's a lot. It's a reckless man. That's a lot, man. That's a lot. a reckless man that's a lot man that's a lot uh a richard hardick ends up filing an assault charge against tyson saying he was kicked in the groin by mike after his car was rear-ended by mike's wife so mike's kicking dicks kicking dicks after his wife rear-ends the guy so he's like i'm hurting from both sides here what are you doing shoulder of the road yeah it's fucking nuts and this is
Starting point is 01:36:43 after he's trying to get he wants to get his nevada boxing license back and he's trying to say what a nice guy he is they said that he punched him in the chest and kicked i'm sorry another man says at the same time he punched him in the chest then kicked another in the groin the two guys who were in that car that is awesome yeah a source close to the nevada boxing commission said quote this complicates matters yeah i i would say so um this is fucking wild why are you doing that can you imagine being in traffic and going down the turnpike and you see mike tyson punch a man in the chest and then kick another guy in the dick did i just was that mike tyson how about minding your own business minding your own business in traffic and getting rear-ended by a car and you're like oh you
Starting point is 01:37:29 fucking asshole and you get out and mike tyson starts kicking your dick that's crazy but you rear-ended me right why are you kicking my dick wasn't even my fault i was just sitting there man so wow um another. Wow. Another person from the same altercation, Ambilic Saucedo. Saucedo, that's a cool name. Sauce D-O. Yeah. That's awesome. Saucedo.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Yeah. Sauce Dough. I like it. Sauce and Dough. Sauce and Dough. He's like, yeah, I'm going to get a restaurant and name it Sauce Dough. His last name is literally Pizza. Pizza. dough sauce and dough he's like yeah i'm gonna get a restaurant name it's sauce dough literally pizza pizza we're doing this till we can afford to open our chain of sauce doughs jimmy and then we're getting out of the podcasting game and we're moving into pizza he uh filed a criminal assault charge against mike tyson claiming tyson punched him in the face
Starting point is 01:38:23 as sauce dough talked with another driver following the auto accident socked one in the face punched one in the chest and kicked the other in the dick this is a wild day gradually the blows get lower and lower pow pow pow my back hurts i don't want to bend down that low i'll kick it october 13 1998. This is a month later. The psychiatric report for Mike Tyson that the Nevada State Boxing Commission offered him. They said, do you want a license? You've got to take psychiatric tests to make sure that you're not going to bite people again. They released it to the public, James?
Starting point is 01:38:56 No, no. It was released to the board at that point. And according to doctors who examined him for five days, wow. They didn't examine the elephant man for five days. That's crazy. That's a lot. An alien could come down. After three days, we'd be like, I don't know what else we could do to him. We looked in its mouth, its eyes, and its butthole.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I don't know. We took apart the beanie baby. We found out what those little things are. I got nothing else. So the doctors say that Tyson is depressed and lacks self-esteem, but is mentally fit to return to boxing. Not sad enough to not punch people. They believe Tyson most likely won't, quote, snap again as he did when he bit Holyfield. They think, quote, what does that say, Jimmy?
Starting point is 01:39:39 This is a team of psychologists. Saying he's good now. He's good now. He's good now. He's got an official I'm good now paper. He plunked down. I's good now he's good now he's good now he's got an official i'm good now paper he plunked down i'm good now he's broken this certificate hereby states that mike tyson is good now he's good this should be the last episode of crime and sports because i feel like it's all come to this mountaintop we should not just never we should say you know what goodbye everybody it's
Starting point is 01:40:04 never happening again. We can't beat Mike Tyson, but we're not going to, obviously. Michael Gerard Tyson is good now. He's good now. That is awesome. It said, quote, he is sound mentally. He is sound physically, and he is sound neurologically. That's what his attorney said in summarizing this report. October 19th, 1998, his wife comes in they sob how you got to give
Starting point is 01:40:29 him his license back she apparently was like gave the real good she was the humanizing of mike tyson in their minds give them hell monica she uh they vote four to one to restore you sir may go punch people in the head legally. Thank you, Monica. Thank you, Monica. With one holdout. So four to one on the board there. He says, quote, I'm very happy that this ordeal is over. Now I can go on with my life.
Starting point is 01:40:59 And he is told by the chairman of the commission, this will be your last chance. You will either conduct yourself in accordance with our rules and regulations, or you will probably never fight again in Nevada. Wow. fair enough i'd say at this moment december 1st 1998 tyson pleads no contest to misdemeanor assault for kicking and punching two motorists involved so he ended up he ended up leading it. January the 16th, 1999, at the MGM. Yeah. So he's back in Vegas, baby. He fights Franz the White Buffalo Botha. Oh, Botha. Remember him?
Starting point is 01:41:36 He's a South African guy and a bit of an asshole. This is a stupid fight. And Botha comes in 39-1. So, I mean, he's got a good reputation and he's got a good record, but he ain't fucking Mike Tyson. It was just France. It was not Francois? I think it was Francois, Botha, but he goes by France, Botha. Yeah, the white buffalo.
Starting point is 01:41:56 This fight goes into the fifth round where it's finally called off with a TKO in the fifth here. Tyson pummeled him pretty good, though. called off with a TKO in the fifth here. Tyson pummeled him pretty good, though. Also, as we'll find out, Tyson will later admit to trying to break his arm during the fight as well. You remember that. So if you want to roll your
Starting point is 01:42:14 chair over to me, I will turn my monitor. His clothes are amazing. They're fucking awesome. They really are. He said some crazy shit later. Here is the Francois Botha knockout or TKO here. You'll get to see as Botha kind of, look at Botha. He looks like an old man or something.
Starting point is 01:42:29 He's got like a big blonde mustache. He looks dopey. Oh, boy. That was just a left, a little right, short right to the chin that just flattened his ass. His leg went all weird under him and shit. I guarantee his brain went tingly. Absolutely. He calls him out. Oh, he got up. Now, this is important. his ass his leg went all weird under him and shit guarantee his brain went tingly absolutely he calls him oh he got up now this is important he got up yeah richard steel the ref waved it off
Starting point is 01:42:54 yeah and then he stumbled backwards and fell almost fell out of the ring through the ropes and steel grabbed one side of him and mike t Tyson went over and grabbed the other side to save him. This begins the period of time where after Mike beats somebody, he hugs them and tells them he loves them very much, and he's a wonderful person, and that he's an honor to be in the ring with you. Yeah, the weirdest way to end a fight. It was an honor to kick your face in. Yeah, somebody's like, I love you so much, and they're like, man, what the fuck are you doing? You just hit me like 14 times, made my face blow up, made all the liquid pop off my face, man. I'm just saying, cool.
Starting point is 01:43:30 You're an amazing fighter. You just exploded capillaries in my face. Now, there is reason for this. Apparently, and both admittedly, was fucking shouting South African racial slurs at Mike Tyson during this fight. Wow. He's trying to frustrate him because that's what they said. That's how you beat Mike. Look at Holyfield.
Starting point is 01:43:51 You frustrate him. So he said, I'll call. I'll throw racial slurs at him. That ought to do it. I've never heard of that working in a way that you beat somebody. No. And then they're going to get upset and then I'm going to beat gonna beat them up no i don't see how those two things go together but he almost got mike disqualified because as he says this is both a quote mike was trying to break my arm he grabbed it and was you
Starting point is 01:44:15 know twisting it yeah and they asked mike about that gave him that exact quote and mike said quote he's correct so it's correct I was trying to break it off. He was. Yeah. So Tyson, though, said that he showed compassion as he pulled the guy out. This is Richard. This is Kemp. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Kemp. Somebody Kemp. Mike grabbed one arm and referee Richard Steele grabbed after the other. After Botha regained his equilibrium, he and Mike hugged. And this was after Botha had taunted him with South African racial phrases. I wonder what they were. I don't know that I ever want to hear them, to be honest with you. Right? Who the fuck knows?
Starting point is 01:44:54 Yeah, we wouldn't even understand them, I'm sure, because it's some weird South African thing. But I'm sure they're terrible. February 5th, 1999 is court. Remember he pled guilty to those two misdemeanor assaults. Right. Well, when you're on probation and parole for rape, you can't assault people. That's a problem. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:45:13 That's a problem. That's another violent offense. So the judge sentences him to, you, sir, may fuck off two concurrent two-year sentences. So two years, twice, but but same time for assaulting these people but he does suspend all but one year of the jail time so he has to do a year in jail he's also fined five thousand dollars and sentenced to two years probation and uh also they're wondering if this could lead to more jail time for violating parole in Indiana now. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Yeah, this could have a chain effect here. So he goes to jail. He's in jail in February 1999. He did jail time twice? What? Oh, yeah. He's in prison. Or jail, because it's less than a year.
Starting point is 01:45:59 But he gets put in for a year. Yeah, he's in for a fucking year. Absolutely. I didn't either. I didn't remember it though february doing its second whole year jesus he he does so much how could you remember anything like it's such a big pile i actually this is i've gotten two messages about this in the six years plus we've done these shows i've gotten two messages that said why the fuck do you, this is amazing.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Why do you have, one was, why do you have notes? You say you use note cards, but why do you use notes? You should memorize it, which I thought was funny. Who says that? That was back when the show was like an hour long, so whatever. Then I got one time, and our live shows, people, they gush over the live shows. They really like the live, we're fucking comics. We know how to do a live show. We throw down, you're going to laugh, and it's going the live shows. They really like the live. We're fucking comics.
Starting point is 01:46:45 We know how to do a live show. We throw down, you're going to laugh, and it's going to be fun. It'll be fun, yeah. So we do all that. I got a message once from a person. I wish I would have saved it, Christ, because it's so ridiculous. But I think at the time I was like, fuck you, and just deleted it. They asked me. They liked the live show.
Starting point is 01:47:00 They laughed a lot. It was fun and all. But they're a little disappointed in me as a performer not you though not me they were no not you they said because you didn't have a script in front of you so you and now mind you i don't have a script i just have my bullet points and i have my cues for the visuals because there's like it's like every word you're gonna say is long form oh god no and no not at all i have like you know a sentence and i have to remember what happened during that and
Starting point is 01:47:31 why do i have those words right why do i have that meanwhile i have like 200 slides and visual cues to know that account their jokes based i say this i hit a button that comes up it's funny if i don't fucking remember to do that i hit a button later and it doesn't make sense that ain't a fucking comedy show anymore that's two assholes with a bunch of slides that they don't know what to do with so but they said they were disappointed that i had a script like on stage there yeah and they were you know they were like i give jimmy kudos for not having his script out they thought that we had scripted banter like we wrote a play and then you didn't you were off book but i wasn't i just i'm james i'm a genius and i i i remember i can remember an entire fucking three-hour show james but i can't pronounce people's fucking no not at all
Starting point is 01:48:17 and i should be able to remember an hour 45 minute live show with 200 visual cues that correspond to jokes i should remember that and i should do it for all five of the shows we're running all over the country because we have a bunch of different ones i should remember and in addition to that we should make in addition to the six hours of podcasts and the bonus episodes and everything else that we put out what is wrong with me for not memorizing that? What a twat, right? You know, James, if you could just catch up to my level of work, I would be very thankful. That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:48:49 That's really what it is. Yeah. Kudos to Jimmy for being off book. I was like, you are the dumbest person I've ever met. Not you, this person. I wanted to just send that one line back. You might be the dumbest person I've ever met and then just leave it at that.
Starting point is 01:49:04 But I was like, I'm just deleting this. I'm deleting this. I can't. You might be the dumbest person I've ever met and then just leave it at that. But I was like, I'm just deleting this. I'm deleting this. I can't. We might have the number one show if you would just fucking get off your ass and start working. That's the thing. I'm fucking lazy. It's just my laziness that's pulling us back. This whole time we said, what is it?
Starting point is 01:49:17 It's my laziness. Start putting a little more effort into this fucking thing. So frustrating. I'm finally somebody got the email to you. I've been wanting to write it for years, but I just didn't have the ball. Is that why its name was Whimmy Jismin? I was wondering. I thought that was a weird name, but now it all makes sense.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Yeah. God damn it. Son of a bitch. Whim now it all makes sense. Yeah. God damn it. Son of a bitch. If that person had any fucking idea how easy my job is in comparison, it's fucking ridiculous. It's not even that. It's not even the comparison. It's just that why are you not memorizing all that? It was like, what? That's the craziest shit ever.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Sometimes I go to bed early, James, and I go, oh, God, I wish I could just do something for James so that he could enjoy how amazing this is. To sleep. Sleep is awesome. Someday, Jimmy, someday. I'm sorry. That's so fucking funny, man. Holy shit. I wish I had known that somebody wrote that to you.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Jimmy, you're off book. I was that's a book. You knew it. You knew your lines. You know, I'm off books. It's because I don't know how to read. That's pretty impressive, though. They sat there for an hour and 45 minutes thinking that was all scripted, though. They must have thought we were amazing actors. They say these things so naturally. It's not even a script. They really just they're jokes and banter.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Like they're friends just having a conversation. It's amazing. So spontaneous it feels like. Wow. It's impressive. They must have been with you guys in the groundlings or something. I feel like there's improv background here. Must be because just the naturalness of your line readings is amazing absolutely staggering how jimmy can remember every damn cue the timing
Starting point is 01:51:11 is impeccable it's wild oh christ so february 20th 1999 this is two weeks later mike is put into an isolation cell after a disturbance at the montgomery county detention center center central uh several is the next word that's what i'm going for here several tv stations in washington reported that tyson became upset either in a cell in the break room somewhere like that and threw a television set just tossed it the set narrow yeah just right through a window i guess it came close to jail guards which they didn't care for that and no injuries or anything uh but then it was reported that two days before this this incident mike was taken off his antidepressants in jail so yeah you can't do that yeah if you take mike tyson off his antidepressants he might
Starting point is 01:52:04 throw a tv at you and you go well i, I mean, give him his pills, dummy. What the fuck do you want? And the antidepressants in jail, in prison are probably not that functional in the first place. I don't know what the rules are there is if you can, if you have a prescription and can afford it. Yeah. Do they let you get whatever you can get or do you have to like is it like whatever they have at the prison i can't i can't imagine sorry go ahead my stepfather who's in prison for 30 years uh has heart medication that he doesn't get what i'm
Starting point is 01:52:37 i'm sure he could afford what he needed but he can't get it they give him whatever knockoff shit brand that the that the prison has and it doesn't work the same if they want to provide their own medicine why the fuck does the state want to pay for it i don't know how the fuck would they want to no no we got this what are you talking about let him pay for his own we got that take this instead it's like yeah are you in your mind take this it's worse and more expensive take it here you go it's worse and it's more it's more expensive and you don't even have to pay for it we'll take care of it yeah we got that don't worry about it no wow um february 26th 1999 six days later he's allowed to get out of solitary confinement and
Starting point is 01:53:15 won back his privileges following an appeal of the disciplinary ruling because they took away his antidepressants um yeah he said it was reduced to time served and he was restored to regular privileges. Also, in 1999, he appears in a movie. This is the first of many cameos for him. What movie? Where he plays Mike Tyson. Play it to the bone. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 01:53:37 With Antonio Banderas and the. They were boxers. It was a boxing movie. Yeah. It was a boxing movie and the other guy. Antonio Banderas was in a boxing movie? Yeah. It boxing movie and the other guy was in a boxing movie yeah it was him and fuck who's the other guy i can't remember it's not a great movie no it's not woody harrelson is it probably it might be woody harrelson it might be woody harrelson it's
Starting point is 01:53:56 a it's a blonde guy i don't fucking know i think it's woody harrelson honestly but i'm not sure play it to the bone play it to the bone yes Play it to the bone, yes, is 1999. So it's a boxing movie, so you stick Mike Tyson in there as Mike Tyson, and why not? Is it Woody Harrelson, James? See, here's the thing about me typing. I type as well as I stay on book, James. It is Woody Harrelson, and he's bald as fuck in that movie. Oh, yeah, yeah, super bald, yeah. And then Ben Darius is looking obviously wonderful.
Starting point is 01:54:26 It's the two of them on the movie poster, so I just have to assume it's definitely Woody Harrelson. Okay, good deal. Yeah, it's probably not on. That'd be amazing. Okay, Woody won't do the movie, but he said he'll do the poster. And he's capitalizing then on his natural born killer's money. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's the big movie that he's going to take after his uh on his natural born killers money you know oh yeah
Starting point is 01:54:45 oh yeah and that's the big movie that he's gonna take after that some status they must must have a big budget or something i'm gonna have to watch that dumb ass movie yeah it's it's it was i mean watchable but it was nothing great october 23rd 1999 yeah back at the mgm man he's lucky to get that license back. He is fighting Night Train Orlin Norris. Now, he has Night Train, and then his other nickname is The Juice. So he's Night Train Orlin The Juice Norris. There he is. He's 50 and 5 coming into the fight.
Starting point is 01:55:19 So he's an experienced fighter. He's a smaller guy, former cruiserweight. He's actually a little shorter than Mike. Really? Mike, I don't know how you'd even know what to do with that he's never fought anybody like that um smaller guy here this fight turns into a no contest is what this is yeah it's a weird thing let's me and you take a look over here at this no contest does nobody get paid for this they get paid there's a contest there but just none of the record books nothing goes down here here's orlin norris look at that peak that widow's peak oh see oh that's the one his knee he blew his knee out all right right uppercut orlin fell and i think he blew his knee out when he fell if i'm not mistaken right is that it i don't know he's no no he's walking oh he's limping
Starting point is 01:56:02 either way the oh because the i don't know the guy came in and his man came in and got him and i don't know what the oh yeah nobody should have been in the ring right then maybe that's why but that was a dq for mcneely though yeah so i don't know what the fuck that should have been a knockout he fucking shoved that guy yeah that was round one that was peak uh widow's peak for mike tyson too his haircut there was was very it made a it made more of a statement than his fucking punch yeah he had a real like i'm gonna make a new hairline here it's gonna be fun make like a mohawk but also grow more hair mike's always been able to do that so good for him on that front anyway so december 1999 mike has a now this is i could we could do mad libs all day
Starting point is 01:56:48 and you could never guess what the next subject matter of this is um any word is it where anything throw out there and it's not as crazy as with the ferrets jimmy it's about ferrets was that what you thought i did crab apples let's go grab apples and ferrets december that what you thought? I did. Crab apples. Let's go. Crab apples and ferrets. December 1999, Mike Tyson is being called a ferret abuser. Are you serious? I couldn't make this up. I mean, Jesus, I'd be more talented. I'd be talented enough to be off book at our live shows if I could make this up.
Starting point is 01:57:22 You fix wild ass pets. Look at our live shows if I can make this up. You fix wild ass pets. A volunteer ferret rescuers claims that she found one dead ferret and another frantically pacing at the top of a cage in Tyson's backyard after being called out to the Las Vegas residence by one of his aides. Animal control officers are trying to determine who owns the animals. But one of the people say that she was told they were Tysons when she went to the house. She runs 24-carat ferret rescue out of her home. It's got a stink like ferret shit in there like crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:58 And a ferret smell is so fucking specific. Oh, yeah. They said the cage had no food or water and it appeared malnourished. They said that Tyson assistant who led them to the ferrets told her they ran out of food and no one bothered to buy more. So they just, it's like, fuck those ferrets, I guess now. Jones claims that when she went back to Tyson's house the following week, Francis began to realize the incident might reflect poorly on his boss, and then he claimed the ferrets were his. So, the, uh, there you go. That's all the things. So there's a big
Starting point is 01:58:31 December 10th, 1999, we'll call it ferret court. He's in court for ferret things, and it turns out there will be no charges because the authorities say they can't because they don't know who the ferrets belong to and who's supposed to be taking care of them, and're like we've spent about enough time on on a dead ferret as we're going to spend on a 39.99 pet this is crazy i mean call us back when a dog abuse yeah no it is
Starting point is 01:58:57 we're not saying that but they're you know it's a fucking major metropolitan city you know how many people are getting fucking raped and killed in las vegas vegas forget it we got the cops working on this i mean isn't there another unit we can call in for this like uh hey you know kind of a people that check out like if there's a watered down drinks and casinos somebody like that like some kind of party commission that checks on ferrets send it up the road to uh reno and have the sheriff's department up there there you go they have time we'll dangle take care of it so he's in england now goes to england and he is taken to a police station in england not because he's under arrest but he's taken there and held under protection for more than four hours because he comes to england to. He's going to fight Julius Francis.
Starting point is 01:59:46 And apparently, just the crowds flooded with people in the streets to see him and cheer for him and all that sort of thing. And London didn't want to let him in. England didn't want to let him over there because of his criminal record. But that silver streak runs deep. And it runs so deep it can go under an ocean and all the way across and uh sprinkle money over there especially when it helps your fucking economy that tremendously oh yeah it's a huge deal yeah you're gonna pack hundreds of thousands of people around tvs and in a stadium to watch a fight it's gonna boost your economy and your boxing kind of business too
Starting point is 02:00:23 if we could start that up tyson says quote if you're an african-american or you're a black man from any part of the world and you come to london you go to brixton to see your people out of respect for them alone so that's where he is there he is uh he's wandering around they have to take him in the police station because he's surrounded by tons of people uh he got out of a bentley and everybody went over to him and went crazy he went out of a window to talk to the fans like you know mussolini over here and he says hey listen they said you didn't want me here right uh these councilmen can't tell me nothing i don't know about my brothers i've got to get back to training so i would appreciate it if you let me break out. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I love you, Brixton.
Starting point is 02:01:07 And eventually they didn't leave the people, and so they eventually had to smuggle him out into an unmarked van. They stayed for more than an hour after he was gone. They said tons of people were flinging beer cans into the police yard. Wow. They're going to be drinking over there. That's when it goes. So, yeah, people were very excited about it, just how big it was. What do you have a crowd?
Starting point is 02:01:29 What do you want? What's, I mean, do you, everybody wants to touch him? You know what I mean? I don't know. People want to close off him. What do you guys want? He stuck his head out of a window and made a speech to you. I think that's about all you're going to get.
Starting point is 02:01:38 What else do you need? We're all going to get an autograph? I mean, what are we doing here? You're going to stand here and just with a pen and and a boxing glove people here what do you want i don't understand crowding people like that i never understand that like some celebrity like everybody runs to them what are you gonna do hi what are you doing that for hi i'm jim nice to meet you yeah great so where are you from oh shit there's a lot of people yeah you go do your thing. What are you telling me? You're not going to talk to them. So, January 29, 2000.
Starting point is 02:02:08 How do you do, Mike? I met my dad when I was 28. Do you want more facts about me? More facts about me? I can get them to you quick because there's a lot of people here. Okay. This is at the MEN Arena in Manchester, England. He fights Julius Francis, who is 21-7 coming into this fight,
Starting point is 02:02:26 which is not a great record. It gets worse. His career record turns out to be 23-24-1. Oh, wow. So after this fight, he wins two and loses 17 and has one draw. That's a terrible time.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Francis goes down twice in the first round and three times in the second before finally they get in there and go okay obviously this isn't happening round two times in two rounds five times in four minutes and three seconds because it was one minute and three seconds into the second round he didn't stand for more than a minute at a time nope let's take a look at it here jimmy shall we i'm gonna fire this up and let's take a look at it here, Jimmy, shall we? I'm going to fire this up, and let's take a look. You have Mike coming up. Ooh, swings a big left. Oh, hey.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Oh, there's some. Oh, that left hook was vicious, but he missed with it. Oh, he missed. Jeez. Oh, that was a body blow. Mike dropped him with a body blow. Body blows, when they go down, look so painful. Oh, they must hurt to be knocked down with a fucking body.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Oh, left hook and uh to the face right to the see ya he goes down hard he's getting up though he's like god damn it this is my country i gotta get up let's see let this guy embarrass me in england oh mike just oh that left hook was to the head like to the top of the head man left these are hammer blows these are just he's getting more oh god jesus don't get up left uppercut. Look, he's getting more. Oh, God. Jesus. Don't get up, man. Left uppercut.
Starting point is 02:03:47 I already know he's going to go down one more time, James. There's no reason he should be getting up. Stay down. What are we doing? Oh, my. Sir, if you've got kids, I beg you, don't get up. Please stay down. Then it's waived.
Starting point is 02:04:00 I don't even know if he hit him with that last punch or if the guy lost his balance. But it's the third knockdown, so the ref waived it off because that was the third knockdown rule in effect. And TKO, 47-3 for Mike. February 8, 2000, Mike reaches a settlement with two women who accuse him of assaulting them at that restaurant. Remember the ones that came on him? He reached a settlement with them at the bistro. So there's some things he settles and there's some shit he fights. So I feel like for him, like, like, and I mean, like, I'm not talking about the rape
Starting point is 02:04:33 charge. I mean, like some of these like nightclub incidents. Yeah. It seems like the ones he settles, maybe they're the ones with witnesses and proof. That's I don't know. So maybe it's not a matter of, you know, some sort of morality. It's just it's just the proof. The of proof yeah it's too heavy so uh yeah they're gonna get some money out of this um and that's how they were seeking 7.5 million dollars in damages but it's a
Starting point is 02:04:57 confidential thing there's not to be released may 19th 2000 a couple months later at uh cheetah's strip club in vegas yeah obviously uh he's there and he has some problems there's a dancer victoria bianco filed a report on an incident there an alleged incident with local police they're investigating it and bianco claims that tyson punched her in the chest and hurled expletives at her in a club where she was working as a topless dancer he punched a stripper in the titty i don't think you punch a stripper in the titty that's wild you shouldn't anyway police police were called to the scene but after interviewing witnesses including tyson no nobody was arrested no charges were filed nothing like that um so but she's speaking and then she files
Starting point is 02:05:45 a lawsuit against him seeking a whole bunch of damages the club manager says it's bullshit real this is the funny part now i don't know if the club manager just would sacrifice a dancer for vip or how that works i'm not sure but yeah i don't know that you want uh your your strip club in the spotlight when you have stars coming in there who have shitloads of money and they throw it around. Yeah. What if some wide receiver wants to punch a woman in the titty? I mean, they want to know that that's a place where you can come, I think. It's a fucking strip club.
Starting point is 02:06:13 Yeah. You're safe to do that. So the manager, though, said that one of his dancers was trying to. That's obviously sarcastic. This is your first episode. He says that this dancer was trying to extort money from Mike Tyson by accusing him of hitting her during a scuffle. This is Lonnie Roybell. He says that she was fired from the club after she went to police a day later and filed a complaint against Tyson.
Starting point is 02:06:37 He says, quote, Mike never struck her or pushed her in any way. She's in it for the money. He said that he was sitting next to tyson on that night so that's how he knows this because he was there he was sitting next to tyson when the dancer approached him and tried to sit on his lap he said tyson raised his hand up to create space and he yelled obscenities at the woman but never hit her okay uh he did say quote she lost her balance and landed on her butt that was about it she made it very clear her feelings were hurt but she wasn't touched at all okay this is a just that's
Starting point is 02:07:11 i mean i don't know it's hard to say came over yeah his hand moved she fell down who knows that's you know if you're mike tyson you know that's worth two million dollars to say you know what i'm saying like it's you you can't i don't even know how you fight that she then called uh i guess oh who is this one now yeah okay so then i guess her boyfriend was called to the club and police interviewed her and left and left and they found no evidence and uh she dances under the name flower and uh she worked three more hours finished her shift and then went to the police the next day the police said i guess the police said they had no indication of a crime that a crime had occurred after speaking to her and everyone else later she came in and filed a crime report for whatever reason that's her decision and i guess we have i guess we'll
Starting point is 02:07:59 investigate it so there you go she uh she said uh or i'm sorry roy bell said he was walking to tyson or talking to tyson and uh he she was trying to sell him a lap dance that's why she sat on his lap he said leave me alone i'm talking with lonnie then she tried to sit on his lap oh like oh come on and that's when he was like nope uh according to the owner anyway yes lonnie's the owner i wonder if it's the guy that owns scores in New York. I wonder if it's the same Lonnie. I forget the guy's last name, but Lonnie sounds like the name of a guy that I think every club.
Starting point is 02:08:35 Yeah. Yeah. It's probably everybody. I think you have to change your name to Lonnie when you. It's like when you join the Heaven's Gate, you have to be an Odie. Yeah. It's one of those. I think so um tyson had walked several miles to the club by himself that day what after having a
Starting point is 02:08:52 dispute with his trainers and handlers at a gym where he'd been training for his next fight so he just said i'm leaving and walked miles to the strip club um this is after he uh the previous week he yelled obscenities at a female photographer at the gym and ordered her removed from his workout okay so he's had some problems he won't face charges from the cheetahs incident here they found little evidence even after she this is after she did the report and they investigated it more i don't know how much more you can investigate it than talking to everyone that night, but I mean, fine. So anyway, there you go. June 24th, 2000, Hampton Park, Glasgow.
Starting point is 02:09:34 It is Hampton Park, Glasgow. He fights Lou Savarese, who is 39 and 3 and 46 and 7 after it's all done setting over with here. This is a fast fight. 38 seconds. Awesome. TKO in 38 seconds. Tyson ends up knocking the referee down so he can keep punching Savarese even after the bout was stopped, as we'll find out. Awesome. With our own viewing of Mike Tyson Masterpiece Theater.
Starting point is 02:10:02 Here it is, everybody. Let's turn it on. Jimmy's got your chair. And cued up. And there we go. Lou Here it is, everybody. Let's turn it on. Jimmy's got your chair. And queued up. And there we go. Lou Savarese, everybody. This tall white guy. Oh, God.
Starting point is 02:10:14 Right on top of the head with a left hook. And he goes. That was the forehead. That's not even the end of the fight. He got back up after that. Nope, he got back up. That was. Oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 02:10:24 That was within the first 20 seconds that happened. He is just pummeling this man. These combos are... Oh, that's why. The ref is stepping between them. Tyson throws him out of the way and hits him more. The ref is calling the fight and Tyson goes, Out of the way, old man.
Starting point is 02:10:40 I want to hit him more. He grabbed the ref by the neck. That was wild. Fuck off, ref. We got a fight here, sir. Commence the fight. That was like Wyatt yelling at Ike in Tombstone. The fight started, Ike.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Commence the fight and run away. That is amazing. That was great. The ref's like, no, no. That is amazing. That was great. The ref's like, no, no, this is over. That first knockdown came within 20 seconds because then he knocked him down
Starting point is 02:11:11 again in 38 seconds. First three punches put him on the mat. That was wild. That guy didn't belong in the ring with Mike Tyson. You could see physically he didn't belong.
Starting point is 02:11:19 He was like, why is he hitting me so much? He looked very confused. Then after the fight, Mike has a statement to make. This is very confused. Then after the fight, Mike has a statement to make. This is his statement. This is the best statement ever? This is one of his best statements ever, and it needs. This is what
Starting point is 02:11:32 In Their Own Words was made for, I think here. We need to do an In Their Own Words. In Their Own Words, quote, I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. There's no one that can stop me.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Lennox is a conqueror? No. I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best ever. There's never been anyone else this ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey.
Starting point is 02:11:57 There's no one like me. I'm from their cloth. There's no one who can match me. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable. And I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children.
Starting point is 02:12:08 Praise be to Allah. I want to eat his children. I'm not very familiar with the Muslim faith, but I don't know. Eating the children of your opponents, I don't know if that's for or against it. Evidently. I'm not positive. It's up to Allah. Yeah. So that is Mike Tyson afterwards. That's if they're for or against it. Evidently. I'm not positive. It's up to Allah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:26 So that is Mike Tyson afterwards. That's pretty incredible. He'll later admit to smoking weed and doing coke before the fight, which is why when you're punching someone, you don't notice. Get the fuck out of the way, old man. I'm punching this guy. That's because you're on coke. Some cokey behavior.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Yep. That's fast. August 22nd, 2000, he's fined 187 500 for his behavior of throwing the referee out of the way but they don't ban him from fighting in britain again as they threatened to do that was awesome that was pretty fun to watch september 14th 2000 this is the andrew galata press conference uh He freaks out, Mike Tyson, loses his fucking mind, and says that he has to leave now, quote,
Starting point is 02:13:10 or I'm going to kill somebody. And he leaves. I gotta go. I gotta go. I'm out. I'm out. Yeah. October 20th, 2000, the palace at Auburn Hills, as we've talked about many times here. Andrew Gulotta is this fight.ata is a big heavy
Starting point is 02:13:25 son of a bitch 36 and 4 coming in 41 and 9 for his career galata goes down in the first um then it ends up being a tko in the second but then it's changed to a no contest later on as we'll talk about this is a ridiculous thing here that why it's changed to no contest. But Gulotta doesn't come out for the third. It's a TKO that way. And the reason why is he ends up, and everybody was booing and calling him a pussy. Turns out he had a broken cheekbone, a concussion, and a broken bone in his neck.
Starting point is 02:14:01 He had a broken bone in his neck from a Tyson punch. That's a TKO. Yeah punch that's a that's a tko yeah that's what i mean but you have been beaten into submission you can't fight because you are you're literally too hurt to fight exactly i just remember everybody calling him a pussy and then afterwards they were showing the replay and one of the shots tyson hit him with was one of those just brick shots like his fist was a brick hit him him on top of the, kind of the side top of the head and bent his neck over to where his ear hit his shoulder,
Starting point is 02:14:28 for Christ's sake. He bent his head over. And they said if he got hit anymore in the head, he could have fucking broken his neck and been paralyzed or something. He was having a lot of problems. But this is, I mean, this is a win. He'd beak a lot of his ass,
Starting point is 02:14:41 except that it has changed to a no contest after Mike Tyson tests positive for marijuana after the fight. Oh, Mike. Jesus Christ. How about that? He can destroy a man's internals and break bones with punching them when he's stoned. Yeah. Well, that probably just keeps him from fucking freaking out.
Starting point is 02:15:02 The extracurriculars are probably to a minimum because he can focus. Gulotta should be thrilled that that wasn't a sober man. Or a coked up man. Yeah. It would have been worse. He'd still be hitting him. So July 29, 2001, he's prepping. He's got a fight, and he's continuing all of his preparation.
Starting point is 02:15:20 He is training in Big Bear in California there, Big Bear City. Yeah. And he's got a rented home up there. And it's in that rented home where he is accused of sexually assaulting a 50-year-old woman named Arlene Mormon. Yeah, not his usual style, but I guess he sexually assaulted her allegedly here July 16th of that year. Sheriff's detectives in California said they're not ready to charge him or anything like that. The one police officer said, I wouldn't say I would say an arrest is not imminent and we don't have a warrant on his arrest. We're still in the position of investigating an allegation that was made against him. I think in the final analysis, the case will likely be
Starting point is 02:16:00 submitted to the district attorney for his review. um yeah there's that tyson doesn't respond to anything about this his lawyer though called the allegation without merit and said that tyson will be cleared of the charge and uh that's it that's that's all august 18 2001 california prosecutors decide not to press charges against t Tyson for the alleged sexual assault of this woman here. So there's that. September 27, 2001, Tyson's home is searched in Las Vegas after the sexual assault charge. Apparently, they're still investigating it. They said he's the one identified by the accuser.
Starting point is 02:16:43 This was a recent sexual assault he's accused of in Nevada, though. It's a different sexual assault. So they're looking at searching his home. When they finished their investigation, they said they'll be able to figure it out. A SWAT team surrounded the home before the warrant was served. Jesus Christ. They said it's pretty standard procedure. You know, when Mike Tyson's there, probably.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Fuck, man. So he has a- We're the bomb squad here. It's Mike Tyson's house. We heard he drops bombs. He drops bombs. We're all here. He lives next door to Wayne Newton at this point.
Starting point is 02:17:18 So Wayne Newton looked outside and said, what the hell's going on out there? Jesus Christ. Oh, no. They found out about the little boys. Oh, wait, no. Oh, they're going to Mike's house next door. Thank God. Oh, I got to destroy those pictures. I'm destroying all those pictures and videos.
Starting point is 02:17:37 I got to destroy them. Honey, make a fire out back. Get that fire picked right. That's right. Wade Newton, fuck you. Crime and sports. Stuff your ass. Shenandoah crooning son of a bitch is getting shrapnel, too.
Starting point is 02:17:52 He's taking it. He's taking it. Jimmy, everyone's taking it. Fuck them all. Who's next? Jesus Christ. Poor Wayne and his cherub cheeks. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:18:04 Poor Wayne and his cherub cheeks. Only person ever to feel bad for Wayne Newton. That's awesome. So October 13th, 2001. That's pretty close. Oh, it's in Copenhagen. I was going to say, were they having boxing matches a month later after September 11th? But I guess so. It's post-September 11th, Jimmy.
Starting point is 02:18:28 Yeah, yeah. Time to get back to loving each other. That's what I'm saying. It's in Parken, Copenhagen. Denmark, right? Yeah, Denmark. He fights Brian, Super Brian Nielsen. Oh.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Super Brian. Watches a lot of Super Dave Osborne. That is awesome. He comes out in a cape. He's 62-1. He's fired out of the cannon into the ring. Oh, shit. They missed him.
Starting point is 02:18:51 He's in the fourth row. He took out announcer Larry Merchant on the way in. Larry's dead now. It's very sad. So he's 62-1 coming into the fight. So I guess you can be super. He finishes his career 64-3, though. Super Brian does not come out for the sixth round.
Starting point is 02:19:08 He decides he's had enough after five. 49-3 for Mike. December 18, 2001, Mike is under investigation for assault again. This time, hey, it's an improvement, Jimmy. It's not against a woman, at least. Assaulting men, though? He's assaulting a retired boxer named Mitchell Rose. Dear Lord.
Starting point is 02:19:26 Again, this is a Mitch Green situation. His name's Mitch, especially. And Rose is red and green. It's crazy. Apparently, they're investigating charges that Mike punched him and ripped his mink coat outside of a Bed-Stuy nightclub. So he's in a nightclub in Brooklyn in Bed-Stuy. Rips this guy his mink coat outside of a bed stye nightclub uh so he's in a nightclub in brooklyn and bed stye rips this guy's mink coat he said he did it tyson did it because tyson showed up with two women and mitchell rose called him chicken heads like two mike like two mike with these chicken heads my chicken heads you're with man this is fucking amazing
Starting point is 02:20:06 oh that's what i mean fuck dude in a mink coat and everything he calls them chicken heads let me turn them chicken heads into ladies why don't you mike so i guess they interviewed the limousine driver all these other witnesses he's a former 300 pound heavyweight boxer who lives around that area on bed stye and he said that they were he was assaulted outside the sugar hill nightclub at 609 to calb avenue here he said look at mike tyson leave him with a couple of chicken heads that's what he said he said that tyson then threw a punch and, quote, hit me in my neck. Hit me in my neck. And then ripped his mink coat. Wow.
Starting point is 02:20:50 Members of Tyson's entourage told police that Rose had insulted the two women, after which Tyson gave Rose a short lecture about respecting women, according to the report. Very short. One punch and a rip. They said he gave him a lecture about respecting women. Yeah, from Mike Tyson. In the neck. In the neck.
Starting point is 02:21:11 Oh, that's amazing. Then they said that Rose followed Tyson and got his mink coat caught in the door of Tyson's limousine. And that's how it ripped. You're lucky you didn't go down the street with him. He says, basically, he said, hey look at mike tyson with them chicken heads and mike tyson said listen man that's not how you treat ladies you treat a lady respectfully i'm i'm leaving this place is full of ruffians and then mitchell rose followed him going hey fuck you mike tyson with them goddamn chicken heads i'm gonna climb in that limo with you man fuck you oh you got a door closing my face oh shit you tore my mink coat that's that's what happened mike's people come on now he said
Starting point is 02:21:51 look at mike tyson with them chicken heads what i didn't say i was talking to ah shit damn mike what the fuck man that's how it went down that fast i thought shit man i'm wise to fight too so um yeah they say there's no mike says mike's people say it's one sided allegations blah blah blah it's pretty fucking hilarious though honestly if you're asking me january 2nd 2002 mike's in havana cuba for some reason not sure why january 2nd yeah i guess it was new year new years in cuba is always the best here you want to relive you want to relive godfather 2 is what you want to do did you ever see godfather 2 you don't spend new years in havana let's just put it that way bad shit happens he does love new year's eve though that is a big holiday for him he'll get busted later then too uh he apparently tossed a glass
Starting point is 02:22:41 tossed glass christmas christmas ornaments at journalists trying to interview him. He started throwing Christmas ornaments at them and doinking them off of people. Pulling the bulbs off the tree and Yep, bink, bink, bink. And then he got on an Air Jamaica flight and took off. January 22, 2002, Mike Tyson
Starting point is 02:23:00 Lennox Lewis press conference. Oh boy. Okay. They're going to fight later on in the year. They come to blows during the press conference. There's a giant melee, and everybody's doing everything. Tyson ended the press conference by grabbing his cock over and over. Remember that? He kept grabbing his cock real aggressively and hurling violent threats at members of
Starting point is 02:23:20 the press as well. I think that's the one where he said, I'll i'll fuck you till you love me i think it is and he also admitted later that day that he was all coke later on he admitted that he was super coked up for that whole press conference not later that day but like years later i'll be like i was on so much coke for that unbelievable obviously um by the way it's alleged that tyson bit lennox lewis's leg during the melee really somebody bit his leg they said it was mike tyson you know what grace fuck it's leg during the melee really somebody bit his leg they said it was mike tyson you know what grace fuck it i mean what else when else can you even put it in there it's random fuck it grace grace everybody yeah that same day by the way that same day that this
Starting point is 02:23:57 happens police in las vegas say they have found evidence supporting a woman's claim that she was raped by by mike in Las Vegas. Yes. The case is with the local district attorney's office, which will decide over the next two weeks whether to charge Mike Tyson. Police recommend arrest, though. They said they've done a thorough investigation, and they find merit in the story. Oh, boy. So January 29th, 2002, in a four to one vote, the Nevada Athletic Commission rejects Mike Tyson's request to box in Nevada again after the press conference incident.
Starting point is 02:24:36 Yeah. So there's that. Plus, he's got rape charges pending at this moment. So February 2002, police in Hawaii are investigating a woman's allegation that mike tyson struck her at the pro bowl game the football game at the pro bowl yeah the 30 it's the mike tyson's life is mad libs a life of mad libs is this guy's whole thing the 38 year old woman told police several hours after the game that tyson hit her when she ran up to talk to him at aloha stadium and on honolulu he wasn't arrested and uh she didn't have any serious injuries but they did
Starting point is 02:25:11 open a misdemeanor third degree assault case why okay i don't understand that either why do you run up to people why do you don't run up to yeah the public public figures you run up to them you're a threat that's true yeah they're thinking, are you going to stab me? I don't know. And by the way, maybe she called his girlfriend a chicken head. We don't know. We don't know what was that. We don't know.
Starting point is 02:25:33 April 2002, Mike is at a strip club in Phoenix, of course. Why not? It is the highlighter. You know it, Jimmy. Absolutely is the highlighter. It is the highlighter. You know it, Jimmy. Absolutely is the highlighter.
Starting point is 02:25:52 They're reviewing claims by a dancer that her and her boyfriend were assaulted by Mike Tyson after a confrontation at the strip club. Tyson's lawyer says that he was at the strip club but left before there was any confrontation. A brief police statement said there were no visible injuries to either victim and that Tyson had left the highlighter club by the time the officers arrived before 1 a.m and uh there's that the detective said they will determine if any of the people involved should be charged and uh tyson's attorneys call it patently false yeah obviously well june i do know that yeah really she was really that's interesting she was fired he was and the the the boyfriend was asked never to return. And Tyson was back there New Year's, I believe, 2004. And I know that for a fact because my friends were with him.
Starting point is 02:26:34 We don't know how strip club politics work. We have no idea. It is fascinating. I feel like VIP is going to always get us. It drops. It wins. Yeah, every time. What are you going to always get us. It drops. It wins. Yeah, every time. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 02:26:48 June 8, 2002, the pyramid. I mean, it's a scummy place. It really is. It's a fucking tits are out. It's going to be gross. Not that you should touch people. People should be able to dance and not be whatever, beaten up or touched. But dancers seem to have a history of saying this.
Starting point is 02:27:04 We don't know if it's true. I have no idea. I wasn't at it's true. I have no idea. I wasn't at the strip club. I have no clue. But strip clubs are a scummy place. And those things are both true. Yes. Both true.
Starting point is 02:27:12 This is at the Pyramid in Memphis. That's where they had to fight now, in Memphis. He fights Lennox Lewis coming in. Lennox Lewis is a great fighter. They fought in Tennessee? They did. They were going to fight in Vegas, but he lost his license. 39-2-1 for Lennox coming in.
Starting point is 02:27:28 41-2-1 for his career. This is for three belts. This is a big deal. Lennox is so much bigger than Mike Tyson. It's hilarious. Lennox is 6'5", and he's a wide guy, too. He's outweighing Mike by 30 pounds. I don't know what their actual fight weight was, but Len he's a wide guy too he's outweighing mike by 30 pounds i don't know what their actual fight weight was but i mean lennox is a huge guy i think he has him by like 14 inches
Starting point is 02:27:51 too in terms of reach it's insane reach and and he knows how to use it lennox is a great jabber he's just a great technical fighter he's a wonderful boxer but he's not boring like lennox lewis he was still fun to watch you know what i mean or like holyfield i'm sorry not boring like holyfield so this fight is a pretty good fight but mike is well past his prime here he's in his mid-30s at this point he's well past his prime lennox is in his prime and uh if this fight happened these two guys you take them both out you take this lennox lewis and you fight him with 1988 Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson eats him alive in two rounds. Eats him the fuck alive just because at that point, the hurricane that he was, you couldn't withstand it.
Starting point is 02:28:37 Because Spinks was a good boxer, too, and there was no way to get around. You jab him and he just comes through it and fucking buries you. But this Mike Tyson, no way. And Lennox Lewis is a great fighter. What a fighter. And it still takes eight eight uh eight rounds to knock it to knock him out take it out and mike dropped his ass with one good punch too at one point lennox went down hard as we know lennox has a you can catch lennox not you but uh you know a boxer can catch lennox off guard and he'll go the fuck down he'll he's a one shot go down guy as
Starting point is 02:29:05 hasim rachman found out when he knocked him out fucking cold with one punch they never saw coming the elegance of his british accent is beautiful too beautiful as he pummels you yeah he's wonderful he's just a majestic animal that guy he is he's great he's a awesome dude he's fuck he's really smart too lennox yeah talk about certain things he's really smart, too, Lennox Lewis. You've heard him talk about certain things. He's a really smart dude. 49-4 for Mike now. This fight was the highest-grossing event in pay-per-view history at that moment in time. Makes sense.
Starting point is 02:29:36 In history, $106.9 million that made from 1.95 million buys in the united states 50 bucks a pop boom that is wild god damn october 2002 um they're still talking about the the highlighter incident here yeah still going on they're talking about here locally for a long time oh i remember it being a big deal apparently they come up say there's insufficient evidence to pursue charges against him. Apparently witnesses claimed that he headbutted her and punched him. That was the... Headbutted her, punched him in the chest.
Starting point is 02:30:14 That was the rumor here. January 14, 2003, gets divorced. So that's that. No more money. Marriage number two in the books. Early 2003, like very early 2003 january mike pops up out of nowhere with a massive fucking tattoo on his face yeah now we know what that is everybody sees that now that was really surprising when he just popped up with that out of nowhere
Starting point is 02:30:38 people thought it was fake first uh first celebrity with a face tattoo yeah that's the other thing we have to say to in 2021 tattoos or whatever nobody looks twice at tattoos no one's like oh i like your tattoos let me see them it's like yeah you and everybody else fucking it's not like that's a weird thing anymore mike popping up with a for a celebrity to put a tattoo on their face in 2003 was like what the fuck is he doing he has lost his mother fucking mind yeah and in true 2003 fashion it is tribal tattoo it is it very much is and it's it's what every douche at a gym had on his bicep and mike put that shit on his on his that wasn't what he wanted by the way what do did he want?
Starting point is 02:31:26 Let's have him explain. This is an interview he did in 2014 with The Guardian. And he says why he did this to his face. He said, quote, I just hated myself then. I literally wanted to deface myself. Oh, my. That's what he said. He said he wanted the tattoo artist to cover his face in stars completely. I think he made the right choice
Starting point is 02:31:46 well the the guy said he wouldn't do it no i'm not doing that like i can't be responsible for fucking mike tyson's face up like that so he said how about this uh maori tribal design yeah how about that maybe you like that and tyson said all right just throw that on my face then you think you'd want to put more thought into how what you want on your face right he said though he doesn't have any regrets now though you know at the time he did it for bad reasons but now he says it looks awesome that tattoo is me he said in the beginning some people were scared by it but the bikers would shout out oh man that's great ink so yeah the bikers liked it so uh february 22nd 2003 fresh tattooed face and everything at the pyramid in memphis he fights clifford the black rhino etienne who we know very well from our uh past what was that
Starting point is 02:32:34 episode 47 ish i want to say this right around there because i think that was our first episode in a in a studio uh-huh and so it sounded really good. What did he do? Was he like a complete monster and raped his child or something? All sorts of shit. I think he like beat up his girlfriend's kid if I'm not mistaken. I don't remember
Starting point is 02:32:50 what the hell it was. Lots of stuff. Yeah. But let's watch Mike fight him. This fight, he's 24-1-1 coming in. This fight lasts 49 seconds total.
Starting point is 02:33:01 So Clifford the Black Rhino Etienne right now. On my birthday in 2003. So the white buffalo he's beaten. Now he's going to beat the black rhino etienne right now birthday in 2003 so the white buffalo he's beaten now he's gonna beat the black rhino oh we missed that left oh that's the leg twisting under yeah his leg explode that not he was done anyway he drilled him with that right and his leg exploded this dude just closes his eyes he's not even fucking he's not getting up because his knees fucked up and mike and mike helps him up yeah mike helps him up because he was very you know yeah i'm a beautiful you're
Starting point is 02:33:30 a beautiful soul you're a wonderful fighter i love you i love you so much so he's 50 and 4 now mike 2003 he says that he's bankrupt yes i remember thisames bankruptcy. Says he's squandered close to $400 million that he's made in his career. $400 million. He's in debt to the IRS, British tax authorities, and the mother of one of his children, who he owes $51,949 in child support. His debts total more than $27 million. Wow. At this moment, he says in the affidavit i've been in financial distress since 1998 since that time although my fight income various asset sales
Starting point is 02:34:13 and litigation recoveries have enabled me to pay a lot of my debt i'm still unable to pay my bills so yeah he says in 2004 he says i don't know if this is true but in an, he says, I don't know if this is true, but in an interview, he says that since declaring bankruptcy, he's completely dead broke to the point where he doesn't have anywhere to live. Says he's fucked. He says, quote. Yeah. Quote, I've got nowhere to live. I've literally been sleeping in shelters. Unsavory characters are giving me money and I'm taking it.
Starting point is 02:34:41 I need it. Oh, Mike. No, you're not. Mike, where is that coming from that's not true uh i did when this happened though he put out what they released like what is his debts his debtors yeah yeah oh boy was paying like fifteen thousand dollars a month for cell phones yeah for shit loads of people his whole entourage of security detail is all of his yeah he's got management people it. It was wild. It's fucking insane, man.
Starting point is 02:35:06 So June 22nd, 2003, more brawling. He is arrested at 530 in the morning after fighting with two men from Pennsylvania outside of a hotel. Okay. All three were guests at the hotel. And this is 530 a.m. They were outside of the hotel they were out there apparently uh they were uh there was a woman outside of the hotel when the fight began one of them used a metal pole grabbed from the lobby against tyson they hit him with a pole
Starting point is 02:35:38 yeah well he like a stanchion right you know like for where the barricades go he was treated i think so either that or like a curtain rod or some shit i was trying to think of what You know, like for where the barricades go. He was treated for minor. I think so. Either that or like a curtain rod or some shit. I was trying to think of what metal pole would you get from a lobby. And that would be right there. One of those stanchions like that. That's maybe not, though.
Starting point is 02:35:55 Yeah. He said that his right hand got bandaged and all that kind of shit. They said that Tyson feared the men would hit him with the pole. And they said that they instigated it, is what one of the witnesses said. They were harassing him, saying things to him, but Tyson was the one who threw the first punch. So that's the accusations there. Second degree, what is this, assault in the second degree?
Starting point is 02:36:19 Oh, menacing in the second degree, menacing in the third degree, and harassment, all misdemeanors are charged against, I believe i believe everybody one of the men and their female companion was treated for minor injuries and there's that at what point is is at what point can you throw the first punch when you feel threatened do you know what i mean like yeah do you have to wait as mike tyson for somebody throw a punch like in a fucking hotel lobby where you're staying at 5 30 in the fucking morning at what point can you just be like get the fuck away from me and start dropping bombs i mean i have a bubble and if you get in and i'm hitting you that's it like that's bottom fucking line like i don't care whether it's i don't know that well that's allowed or not but
Starting point is 02:36:58 we'll worry about that later i'd rather worry i'd rather talk to a lawyer and fucking worry about it than you know be in a hospital worrying about it later on because i didn't see that some cheap shot coming at me or some shit at some point though i mean you can't you can't just throw throw blows at women but especially if you're mike but mike's got a security detail right yeah they should be doing mike where are they at not telling these guys look it's mike tyson yes but let him get some fucking rest we're in a hotel yeah leave him the fuck alone yeah you shouldn't shouldn't. Every guy doesn't. That's the thing. If you're Mike Tyson, everybody's trying to see if they can punk you and all that shit. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:37:29 Leave the guy alone. So, well, maybe not. I just say that. This is like you saying, he's my kind of guy. He does an interview with Fox Television here where he says he's so angry still about the conviction for rape from 92 that, wow, he's so angry, he now wants to rape his accuser and her mother. No, Mike. I'm so angry at them, I want to rape them both, he said now.
Starting point is 02:37:56 Which is like, what are you talking, Mike? Don't ever say that. Wow. August in 2003, they're trying to set him up with a fight against bob sap oh i thought you were gonna say bob saget him and bob saget are gonna fight it's just a weird thing i'm gonna fight danny tanner but japan will not let him in due to his criminal history they don't care how much fucking money he's generating they're not letting him in july 30th 2004 freedom hall state fairground in louisville where it all happens jimmy obviously he fights danny williams the brixton bomber who is 31 and 3 he turns out
Starting point is 02:38:38 to be 54 and 29 for his career this is a knockout in the fourth round tyson loses he gets knocked out by this guy in the fourth round at a state fair he beat the shit out of this guy for the first two rounds the third one was kind of whatever and then after a while there was some illegal blows from williams by the way which were penalized even some cheap shots in the fourth round tyson just goes down, and he's knocked out. After the fight, we find out that Tyson tore a knee ligament in the first round. Oh, shit. In his right leg. So basically, he had no punching power with his right hand because everything comes from your leg, especially with Mike.
Starting point is 02:39:16 Mike squats down, fires up with his legs. If his knee ligament's torn, he can't hit. So apparently, he was pretty fucked up. He had to go have surgery four days later to fix his knee and all that shit. So that was it. He said that he couldn't throw any meaningful right hand punches since he had a knee injury and no way to beat. So I think he just kind of went down like, I'm not going to fucking win this fight. Is that not the fight where he said he broke his back?
Starting point is 02:39:40 He broke his back? No, no. After the fight, there was a fight that he had that they were like, what happened, Mike? And he was like, I broke my back. Oh, it might have been the one. Yeah, that might have been that one. You're right. I think you're right.
Starting point is 02:39:51 They're like, what? And he goes, spinal. Spinal, yeah. Or your knee. One of the two. So December 2004, the fight that he had with the he's sentenced to be he's sentenced to do 100 hours community service for the fight with the guys in Brooklyn or with the yeah, with the two men in Brooklyn that he fought out there at the hotel, the Pennsylvania guys. And he does 100 hours of community service and he is let off of that there. A few days later, though, he is cited in Phoenix on suspicion of felony criminal damage after a Scottsdale bar patron accuses Tyson of damaging his vehicle.
Starting point is 02:40:31 What? Yeah. Tyson was like a hurricane living in town when he lived in Phoenix. It was wild. June 3rd, 2005, he's in an interview with USA Today, and he said, quote, My whole life has been a waste. I've been a failure. I just want to escape. I'm really embarrassed with myself and my life.
Starting point is 02:40:52 I want to be a missionary. I think I could do that while keeping my dignity without letting people know they chased me out of the country. I want to get this part of my life over as soon as possible. In this country, nothing good is going to come of me. People put me so high. I wanted to tear that image down. And so, yeah, that's when he started hanging out at home. He had a big giant house in Paradise Valley and shitloads of pigeons. Yeah, he started being sort of weird.
Starting point is 02:41:18 It's a beaut of a house, James. Holy shit. Oh, yeah. He'll sell it later, as we'll talk about. Really? June 11, 2005, in the MCI Center in Washington, he fights Kevin McBride, the Clones Colossus. He's Irish. Whatever the fuck. It's probably a place in Ireland, I assume.
Starting point is 02:41:32 Clones. Clonus. Clonus. 32-4-1 coming in. Tyson does not come out for the sixth round. Just doesn't come out. He said later on in a documentary he said that he fought mcbride for a payday and that he didn't anticipate winning he never even thought he was
Starting point is 02:41:51 going to win he said he was in poor physical condition and fed up with boxing and uh he said he just was ready to quit so he just quit and then he never that was it he retired right after that that's it 50 and 6 in his pro fighting career so that's how it goes little quick overview this is his best ofs every fighter they do an interview with who had the best whatever so this is tyson's list of best ofs it's kind of interesting best jab tony tucker i had to be certain to slip well to keep from getting tagged tnt best defense larry holmes i have to say say Larry Holmes, even though I did win inside the distance, he was very tough to hit cleanly. He's a big guy, too.
Starting point is 02:42:31 Fastest hands, Tony Tubbs. Tony Tubbs had the fastest hands. I was surprised how quick he let go with those combinations, and he was not afraid to throw them. Fastest feet, Mitch Green. Old blood green. I think Mitch Green had the fastest feet. It was very tough to set up near him and throw big shots.
Starting point is 02:42:48 He said that John Rebalta had the best chin. I hit Jose Rebalta. I hit him with everything, and he took it and kept coming back for more. Larry Holmes is the smartest. He said it comes with being a champion for seven years. He said that the best puncher is Holyfield. He threw terrific shots with both hands and with bad intentions. I'm telling you, James, he's a great fucking, great fighter.
Starting point is 02:43:12 So boring. Best boxer, you know, boxing skills. Lennox Lewis, right? Tony Tucker. Really? The other TMT. He loved that guy. He had an excellent, that's Tony Tubbs he gave to the other ones.
Starting point is 02:43:25 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had an excellent jab, moved well, and was very tough to hit clean. Best overall, he better say fucking Holyfield. Yeah. And Jesus, for him, he does. He said Holyfield's the best guy he fought. Great champion, chin, heart, determination, work ethic, and demeanor. November 2005, speaking of demeanor, Tyson is accused of assaulting a TV cameraman in Brazil.
Starting point is 02:43:47 He is questioned by police after a cameraman said that he assaulted him outside of a nightclub. It is Carlos Eduardo da Silva, a cameraman with the Brazilian television network SBT, told police Tyson pushed him and threw his camera to the ground outside the club and removed the videotape and put it in his pocket. Took it with him. Yep. 2006, he announces Mike Tyson's world tour. What is he going to do? To help pay off his debts.
Starting point is 02:44:17 He's going to be doing a series of exhibition fights and calling it Tyson's world tour. Actual fights. Yep. He returns to the ring ring has a four-round exhibition against journeyman heavyweight cory sanders and uh tyson has no headgear on and it weighs 216 pounds and uh the other guy sanders is six foot six and more headgear because he's so scared yeah they said tyson appeared to be holding back to prevent an early end to the show didn't want to knock him out in the first round and uh all that kind of shit here
Starting point is 02:44:51 the bout was poorly received and the remainder of the tour was canceled nobody wanted to see that one fight one fight december 30th 2006 here we go um jesus christ he's there it's 29th i mean actually he's at the pussycat lounge in scottsdale really as he does and he's leaving there he's seen driving erratically an officer then saw him after he's pulled over saw tyson wiping a white substance off the dashboard of his black bmw that's the bummer about Black on Black. And his speech was slurred. Black on Black does not hide coke very well. Nope.
Starting point is 02:45:30 Not good. He is brought in there. He admitted to using, they also found two bags of cocaine in his back pocket as well. He is admitted to using coke and he even said he had a problem. They said that, quote, Mike admitted to possessing bags of cocaine
Starting point is 02:45:44 and says he uses any time he can get his hands on it he nearly rammed a police suv that's how they found him didn't take a lot of investigation there so they got out to see if he was hammered and they found him in possession of cocaine obviously and uh that's how that goes they didn't they did not file a dui on him yet because they're doing toxicology but uh he then it came out that he told the police that he smokes cocaine which he packs into marlboro cigarettes oh he's doing it like that because he's unable to roll his own joints he's rolling smoking like a woolly shit like what he's uh unable to roll his own joints and uh so he just does it that way and he gets quote a little crazy he said without the use of his antidepressant zoloft which yeah
Starting point is 02:46:32 he's fucking he should take it that's what you need mike checks himself into rehab into an inpatient treatment treatment center for what his lawyer called, quote, various addictions. So he's sitting in his treatment center. Oh, boy. I mean, coked up probably or not coked up anymore. Imagine being in that treatment center, too. Anybody's at risk of getting their head taken off at any moment in time. So there's one moment he's sitting outside, and he's just kind of staring.
Starting point is 02:47:00 Picture him in like a bathrobe on a bench just staring. Watching the pigeons. He likes pigeons. but all of a sudden the pigeons scatter though they all scatter because in the distance they hear dogs barking and out of nowhere it is bobby colorado animal trainer from fredericksburg texas and he says How is it you come to arrive here? What the fuck are you doing? You have 400 fucking million dollars? I don't think that's the gross national product of fucking Luxembourg, and you're making that and pissing it away?
Starting point is 02:47:38 What the fuck is wrong with you? What are you doing? You're buying Lamborghinis, and you're fucking grabbing people's tits and kicking them in the balls. You got a lot of problems, Mike. I'm going to tell you right now, you need to put all this pigeon bullshit away. Forget these fucking tigers you're putting people in cages and shit.
Starting point is 02:47:53 This is out of your fucking mind. I think we're going to get you a nice dog. Don't leave it like the ferret, though. You got to buy food more than once. It doesn't- Feed the goddamn thing. Replicate. You feed it, you water it.
Starting point is 02:48:02 But I think one of these dogs could be nice for you. Some companion shit. Oh, Mike, I didn't call her I think one of these dogs could be nice for you. Some companionship. Oh, Mike, I didn't call her a chicken egg. Calm down. What the fuck are you doing? I'll get these dogs. I gotta get out of here.
Starting point is 02:48:12 Poof. And in a puff of marinara sauce and dog shit, he's gone. And Mike is very confused, swinging at the air. People just think he's shadow boxing and they go,
Starting point is 02:48:22 oh, look at Mike. He's getting in shape. He's got a back. He's still got it. Two of Tyson's former wives, I assume Robin Givens and Monica, wrote letters to the court asking for leniency as well at that moment. So he's getting out of Phoenix in 2007. He sells his 7,788 square foot property in your house, I guess. It's so big.
Starting point is 02:48:47 It's on the west side of Mummy Mountain behind a gate, the end of a private cul-de-sac, five bedrooms, game room, library, guest house, four-car garage. Boom. It's a nice place. He's going to sell his joint, puts it up for $2.339 million. That would be worth, I don't know, $12.5 million today. Yeah, this is 2007, so this is when shit's starting to fall apart. Yeah. Not great.
Starting point is 02:49:11 September 2007, cocaine court here. He pleads guilty to charges of drug possession and driving under the influence. This is for the Pussycat Lounge, almost hitting the police SUV, coke on the dashboard. He had cocaine and was impaired, he said, when he was stopped. Pleads guilty to a single felony count of cocaine possession, misdemeanor DUI count. Faces up to four years and three months in prison when he's sentenced here. The DUI charge ends a second misdemeanor DUI, gets dropped as part of the agreement. And they say Tyson's been clean and sober for eight months and he's doing great.
Starting point is 02:49:48 And his lawyer also says it's obvious that this was a crime he was committing against himself. So November 2007, he faces a possible sentence of four years and three months in prison. Like we said, the prosecutor recommends a one-year prison term for mike saying he's a multiple offender who'd been convicted of a violent crime and uh he's only now just sought treatment for his drug addiction and he says quote judge by my calculations calculations this is his fourth or fifth chance yeah uh the judge on the other hand, sentences him to you, sir, may fuck off 24 hours in jail. Hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:30 And three years probation. Yeah. And then exile from the state. If you leave the state, we'll give you 24 hours in jail. Sell your house. Yeah. June 2008. This is one of the weirdest things ever.
Starting point is 02:50:41 There's a federal racketeering case going on with gang members. Right. A Rico case. Nate, this is one of the weirdest things ever. There's a federal racketeering case going on with gang members, right? A Rico case. And witnesses on the stand begin accusing Mike Tyson of paying to have people killed. Oh, my God. Yes. They said evidence was that Mike Tyson put up $50,000 to kill two men is what a closing argument said from a witness here they uh the district attorney described the witnesses as uh unquestionably a liar the witness who said that and they said that it was tyson said it's totally untrue this is a trial in brooklyn new york where you know they're
Starting point is 02:51:18 saying he knows people this is tyson's name emerged the investigation of the cash money brothers which i actually know this story yeah very fucking well as a matter of fact a gang led by brothers damian world hardy and myron wise hardy i know this it's yeah i remember all this shit they've read a book about this they have also alleged that wise is killing in a 19 in 1999 sparked a bloodbath that started in a housing project and among those kill killed was tyson's friend and bodyguard daryl homicide baum he had a bodyguard named homicide named homicide he absolutely did holy shit at the trial a one of the gang members who turned state's evidence uh said that tyson put out a fifty thousand dollar contract on the guy other
Starting point is 02:52:06 guy who was killed because he was close friends with homicide tyson denies the murder plots he says i don't know what the fuck you're talking about tired of people throwing my name around and that's that all right we're gonna bust through the next 10 years because it's pretty crime free here we'll just hit the funny moments con film festival 2008 the mike tyson film comes out here uh it's a big deal tyson it's called it's a documentary not the movie directed uh interview documentary yeah it's very well received he's very honest in it may 27 2009 yikes um mike's four-year-old daughter exodus jesus christ she was playing on the treadmill while her mother was doing the dishes Mike's Mike's four year old daughter, Exodus. Jesus Christ. She was playing on the treadmill while her mother was doing the dishes.
Starting point is 02:52:49 Apparently, the mother sent the son in there to take a look at her, make sure she was OK. She had slipped and apparently a cord that was hanging under something got caught around her neck. I think it was the blinds cord. They're saying it was a cord hanging under the console. So it could have been anything. Who it was the blinds cord they're saying it was a cord hanging under the console so it could have been anything who knows the blinds cord um found the seven-year-old brother found her alerted the mother she's taken to the hospital oh my god put on life support and uh and pronounced dead the next day so mike loses his daughter he told Oprah after that that he wanted to find out the truth and he wanted to point fingers
Starting point is 02:53:28 at somebody that day because he was so mad when it was going on he said and if there's somebody to blame for it there's going to be a problem he said that he got to the hospital he said quote once I got to the hospital and saw other people there with their children who had already died or were dying
Starting point is 02:53:44 they were handling it with dignity. And I didn't want to be the psycho parent up there. I wanted to handle it with dignity as well. So that's smart. So like a couple weeks later, Mike gets married again. What? When things are going well, Jimmy, obviously. I mean, you're down as far as you can go.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Your daughter's dead. He's like, I need to get married. But this one, I think he's still married to her, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Lakia Spicer is her name. Kiki, she goes by. Yeah. So there you go.
Starting point is 02:54:14 She she he said that I'm reached. I've reached a stage where I'm 43 and I'm just tired. I'm just tired of being alone and not having any intimacy. So I don't I don't like being loved. I not having any intimacy. So I don't like being loved. I like loving, he says. I don't like being loved. I have too much love to give and none to accept, he says. That's interesting.
Starting point is 02:54:35 They do have two children together, these two, Milan and Morocco, they're going to have. In 2009, he's in The Hangover, which was a big deal for him culturally, kind of put him back in. I fucking hate that movie. I know you love it, but I don't know. It's just so annoying. It's such an annoying comedy movie. After that, I felt like they were just hammering, just taking advantage of it. But I liked it.
Starting point is 02:54:56 I liked it for a lot of reasons. And one was that they were giving a lot of great comedians opportunities. That was good. I loved that. Yeah. It just annoyed me. It was so forced. i felt that shit was forced november 12 2009 police detained mike tyson at the airport yeah he is detained at lax
Starting point is 02:55:14 he apparently is traveling with his wife and 10 month old child when a bunch of paparazzi come up to him motherfuckers and mike fucking pushed a guy away and was like get the fuck away from me was at the united airlines counter got a baby here yep and i guess he shoved a photographer a photographer fell to the ground and cut his forehead and uh both tyson and the photographer want to press charges for misdemeanor battery and tyson said sorry you fucking my child felt threatened and you know one just died so i'm not letting anybody get near another one fuck out that's fine stay away from people's kids uh march 2011 he appears on the ellen degeneres show to discuss his new animal planet reality series taking on
Starting point is 02:55:57 tyson and uh they discussed how he's sober now and he's living a vegan lifestyle and all this shit. Then June 12, 2001, he's inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame along with Julio Cesar Chavez and Sylvester Stallone. Oh, dear God. What? He did bring a lot of attention to boxing with Rocky. That was a big deal. But he's not a boxer. Nope. Well, I mean, fucking how many non-wrestlers are in the Wrestling Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 02:56:28 Bob Uecker's in there, for Christ's sake. Tyson later in his book admits that he was several things. Number one, that his whole vegan lifestyle was bullshit. He's not doing any of that. lifestyle was bullshit he's not doing any of that uh number two he said that givens was the robin givens his ex-wife was the recipient of quote the best best punch he'd ever thrown in his entire life oh mike don't say what a terrible thing to say jesus christ this is in fire and fear the inside story of mike tyson he said he also he said during the time that the one of the remember when he drove the car into the tree and they thought it was a suicide attempt.
Starting point is 02:57:06 That was because she chose to hang out at the U.S. Open instead of spending time with him at his training site. So he told her, I'm going to go out and kill myself. So he did that. Then he said when given showed up at his hospital room, he told her, if you I told you I do it as soon as I get out of here, I'm doing it again. Oh, so mike's got a lot of problems then a lot of problems now you feel bad for mike you feel bad for everybody in his wake obviously because it's you never know what he's going to erupt he's been trying to find himself and it's not working i mean it's he really it's almost like he doesn't know who he is and you
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Starting point is 02:58:19 Sweet Anchovies. Sweet Anchovies. Yeah. 2012, he's doing a one-man show. I remember this. This is awesome. sweet anchovies yeah 2012 he's doing a one-man show i debuts it this is debuts it debuts it in vegas which became a huge deal and then collaborated with spike lee and brought the show to broadway in august 2012 and in february 2013 took his mike tyson undisputed 36 city three-month national tour and talked about his personal personal and professional life and all that stuff and it was on hbo in 2013 just him with a mic like a like a britney spears uh
Starting point is 02:58:50 microphone with the yeah and it's just one of those it's amazing he's so eloquent he can speak so well i can't believe he couldn't do that the rest of his life about that stuff yeah october 2012 he launches the mike tyson cares foundation it says it's to the mission is to give kids a fighting chance by providing innovative centers that provide for the comprehensive needs of kids from broken homes uh he also says he's not sober he says that yeah when he was on ellen he was actually on the verge of death from alcoholism. He says he talked about how, you know, he's come along a little bit with the alcoholism. He's no longer vegan. He says, quote, I was a vegan for four years, but not anymore.
Starting point is 02:59:35 I eat chicken now every now and then. I should be a vegan. No red meat at all, by the way. I would be very sick if I ate red meat. That's probably why I was so crazy before. Mike. No, that's not why. No, Mike. Mike, no. Don't blame the meat industry, sir.
Starting point is 02:59:50 No, don't blame red meat. I had a hamburger earlier. I'm not ready to kill Jimmy. 2013, he said, quote, the more I look at churches and mosques, the more I see the devil. Which is fucking, he's getting deep with that shit now. 2013, Mike is featured in a six episode
Starting point is 03:00:05 television series on fox sports one that documented his personal life called being mike tyson uh tyson's undisputed truth was published that year and appeared on the new york times bestsellers list there i was doing he received the sportel special prize for the best autobiography at the golden podium awards ceremony how fast they forget he's a rapist dude that's what i mean they want a redemption story so fucking bad it's like if none of that had come out before and it came out now they'd they get rid of him everybody would get rid of him but then the fact that it's all like known so much they're like well i mean he rapes you out in the open. It's weird, dude. It's weird, dude.
Starting point is 03:00:46 It was years ago he was raping. Now it's like, you know. It's so weird. It's such a weird thing how he gets a pass. I don't get it, but whatever. I mean, it's not my thing.
Starting point is 03:00:53 I don't know. 2015, Mike appeared on the track Iconic on Madonna's album Rebel Heart. He says some lines at the beginning of the song,
Starting point is 03:01:02 you know, because I think that's what I think there. May 2017, publishes his second book iron ambition which he details his time with his trainer and surrogate father customato that's his big like it's kind of i got him and cuss on the cover of it and everything uh 2020 may 2020 mike posts a video on his Instagram of him training. I remember that. It was like him throwing monster punches. You're like, Jesus. He hinted at a return to boxing by saying, I'm back.
Starting point is 03:01:32 He wasn't back then, but he did come back to fight Roy Jones Jr. Right? Yeah, Roy Jones Jr. That's right in front of my face. He signed a contract to fight him. It was sanctioned by the California State Athletic Commission, but it's also just an exhibition. They pretty much tap at each other for eight rounds and have a draw. There's no reason.
Starting point is 03:01:53 It was fucking silly. The split draw, the judges scored the fight as follows. Christy Martin was one of the judges. Really? Scored at 79-73 for Tyson, which is fucking cool. Chad, she's a power puncher, so that's how she's going to do it. Chad Dawson, 76-76 draw. And Vinny Pazienza, Vinny Paz, who we will do an episode about very soon.
Starting point is 03:02:17 Really? As a matter of fact. Oh, yeah. He voted for Mike Tyson, which is one of the reasons why we're doing an episode. He's a criminal. No, I'm just kidding. July 2020, also, Mike announced the creation of Mike Tyson's Legends Only League. It's a league to provide retired professional athletes the opportunity to compete in their respective sports.
Starting point is 03:02:38 That's part of the deal with him and Roy Jones Jr. because they are both old. He also appears in all elite wrestling aw really recently yeah he uh helped he hell that doesn't fucking matter jake the snake roberts was there presented him with presenting somebody i can't get into all this shit right now uh we're we're running out past three hours here but still this is it here he appeared there so he moved on to the next wrestling as he's doing there uh what else here oh yeah that's right he told the new york times in 2020 about his 1992 rape quote i did not violate that woman wow so he's still talking about it march 2021 it was announced that jamie fox fox will star in executive produce uh also the official
Starting point is 03:03:28 scripted series tyson it'll be a limited series probably directed by our produced executive produced by martin scorsese oh so it's gonna be great yeah it's gonna be a big one that's gonna be a big one jamie fox playing tyson it'll be like a mini-series, you know, like a six-episode arc on one of these fucking streamers. It's going to be big shit. It's going to be amazing. Yep. Can't get enough Mike Tyson? Tough shit.
Starting point is 03:03:54 We did nine hours. Look up your own shit. If you need more Mike Tyson, honestly, look it all up on your own because I think we've done enough. I think we've fucking talked about him plenty. And that, everybody. Wow, it's Mike Tyson. It's Mike Tyson in his entirety. been enough i think we fucking talked about him plenty and that everybody wow is mike tyson mike tyson in his entirety and that could have been four parts but no fuck that three's enough he really is uh it's amazing it his story is literally just it's amazing wild it does you've been under yeah it there's no reason that that life should have
Starting point is 03:04:25 culminated ever to as as the full that it is and it's not even a weed company now too yeah he's growing weed now he has like a weed farm that he's working on now so there's a lot still going on with tyson you can't get this is the thing we could do we could do another three hour episode next week on all the shit we didn't cover in the three parts this week. All the little things we missed and compile a whole episode about it. I'm not even fucking kidding. We're not going to, but it could happen. He's a story man.
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Starting point is 03:05:42 For Crime and Sports, we are going to talk about Christy Martin. Yes. course both episodes patreon for crime and sports we are going to talk about christy martin yes the female boxer who was a badass and then just had a tough life after that boy with her not on her fault she's no it's a lot it's a lot it's a crazy story listen to it christy martin the female mike tyson in the ring not out of the ring and then finally also for small town murder it is time again yeah once again it's been a long time. I think it's been since February. So we've held out long enough.
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Starting point is 03:06:40 That said, that's a lot. Jimmy, I think it's time you need to do me a big favor. Hit me with the list of people who would never, ever, ever grope us, punch us in the chest, or kick us in the groin while at a nightclub. Hit me with them now. This week's executive producers are Roy Kuntz. Kuntz, it's got to be Kuntz, right? I hope so. It's got to be.
Starting point is 03:07:01 I really do. Jordan Bennett, Dakota Durbin. Thanks, Jordan. Carly Ritland, Julia Baranowski, and Christiane Castaldi. And truly, though, besides the obvious financial help that you guys are doing, the people that like Jordan and Chrissy reach out to me and talk and. They're good people. It's really, it's helpful.
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Starting point is 03:07:40 I'm fucking kidding, but thank you. From the heart, I mean. That I'm not kidding about. Other producers are James Marder, Jennifer Ward. She donates both ways. Thank you so much, Jennifer. Appreciate it. Corporal Carl Kirshner, Peyton Meadows, Mark Hummel had a birthday.
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Starting point is 03:09:28 The weird face. The weird face. It looked like the theater masks, kind of, like if you made that into a human. On a giant head. He had a big head, too. Yeah, big old head and weird face. Jessica Cole, Annie Zaragoza, Robin Hanaberry up in Canada. Thank you, Robin.
Starting point is 03:09:46 Kimberly with no last name. I imagine that is whore. Tom Connor, Justin Marshall, Liz Alaska, Mary Zakaruski, Stephen Smith. Probably the three-point bomber from the heat, James, Steve Smith. Oh, definitely. Yeah. And the Olympic team. The 96 Olympian.
Starting point is 03:10:03 Yes. Heather and Dan Miller, 69. Yeah. And the Olympic team. The 96 Olympian. Yes. Heather and Dan Miller, 69. Whatever. Sure. Nikki Mendez, Jennifer Patterson, Brian Shimkoos, Jemimi Petra Wissman. Whatever. Leslie Anzalone, Alexis Hoare, Christian Sanchez, Chris Martin. I should probably explain that because people that
Starting point is 03:10:25 are donating now don't know what the fuck that's about from before yeah because they don't stick around and listen to those they listen for their name and it means somebody's last name was whore and so now uh and it was real that's a real last name yeah we were like how do we there's the only way to say this is whore i'm sorry you can You can't say it any other way. Because you pronounce it the other way and it's just extra stank on the whore. Yeah, it's just hoo-ah. It's worse. She's a hoo-ah. So now anybody that donates with just your first name gets whore as your last name.
Starting point is 03:10:55 As their last name. Not because we're insulting you, but because it's fucking hilarious. Yes, it's just funny to have the last name whore. Christian Sanchez, Chris Martin, probably the lead singer of Coldplay, Irene Sabalvaro, Plank, Toby Muninger, Ashley Lott, Perry McDaniel, Michelle Villas, Brittany Lloyd, Elaine Black, Suzanne Pena, Sarah Kinzier, oh boy, Kristen Stone, Christina Moody, Shalima Althaus, Aaron Holliday, Mary Danielson, Sid Haas, Shelby Smith, Kyle Hurry, Molly Hoare, Vincent Diaz Jr., Mustafa Tarani, TPSamurai, Marie Antoin probably not sue adams i think she's dead right i mean yeah she should be chuck sharts probably not tony allen uh amanda dawson tom lawrence ashley
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