Crime in Sports - #279 - The Next Big Nothing - The Loathsomeness of Steve "Gatorwolf" Ketcher

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

This week, we can only hope that brain damage contributed to the this man's crime, because if it didn't, he's just one of the most reprehensible human beings that we can think of. He wasn't exactly a wrestling superstar, spending most of his career as a "jobber", who lost on a nightly basis to make others look good. Outside the ring, he was violent, mean, and was called "the description of a stalker & abuser", and that wasn't even his REALLY bad crime. He's not a good guy, but he sure is a good time to make fun of!  Catch Vince McMahon's eye, only to completely blow it, hold fights, in parking lots, with no insurance, and be an absolute monster of a human being with Steve "Gatorwolf" Ketcher!! Check us out, every Tuesday! !We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurder See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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a big wrestling person if you don't really know him well which is kind of the most of the fun of this episode is we talk a lot about very successful wrestlers yeah you know we talk we've talked about you know von eric's and we've talked about you know scott hall and jake the snake roberts and these are all legendary names you know what i mean a lot of them we've got our buck zoom hoffs too and our hard body harrisons but still like we've had mostly very successful wrestlers we've talked about Jimmy Snuka these are legendary guys today we are going to talk about a jobber now if you don't know what a jobber is a jobber that takes the fall he takes the fall now that's become a different thing now now there really isn't jobbers anymore, really. Everybody's pretty decent, and they try to keep it so everybody seems to be valuable.

Everybody's got a personality and a gimmick that they're running. Before, there was just your run-of-the-mill white guy in Speedo. Singlet. He's out of shape more than the guy he's fighting. He definitely doesn't look like he should he belongs in the ring with him it looks like your dad yeah yeah it's fighting yeah your dad is fighting randy macho man savage on saturday morning that's what it looks like and uh you know they get beat up knocked around the guy does their finishing move on him to show how impressive they

are all these guys are that they're called enhancement talent. They're there to enhance the stars is what they are. And in the really since the beginning of, you know, the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and about half the 90s, jobbers were an essential part of the business. You had to have those guys to make the other guys look good until the whole Monday night war when you couldn't have couldn't have nobody's fighting. Every match had to be exciting and mean something. Otherwise, they'd switch the channel because it was a ratings war. How are you going to put that on TV? Yeah, whereas on a Saturday morning when I was eight, you'd turn it on and you'd watch Macho Man beat your dad up,

and that was it. He'd do the flying elbow smash, and you'd be like, all right, good for you. There it is. There it is. He does look impressive. You tune in for Macho Man, not for the other guy. No.

Then they realized you can double your audience when you are having people tune in for each. Yeah. The problem is in those matches that are big guys against big guys don't really mean anything because you see them all the time. That's how they used to get WrestleMania or that's how you would get you to go to Madison Square Garden to see the show because it's like oh finally all the good guys are all the you know good wrestlers are fighting each other rather than nobody's that's how you would go you know you've watched them beat these guys up but now they're gonna fight each other finally so i've always been fascinated i've had a fascination with

these jobbers since i was a little kid because as a little kid I was like I didn't know obviously when I was eight really what the deal was I didn't figure out wrestling till I was about 10 to look like exactly what they were doing you know there was the honky-tonk man he came out and he's always being booed you ever seen the honky-tonk man it's like an Elvis impersonator gimmick and he'd come out and he would say always what a great guitar player and singer and dancer he is right that's what he would always say so he'd come out and he'd be like singing along with his theme song that's sung by him you know what i mean and the crowd's booing him and he'd just go you know what you people are so wonderful one more time turn down me what we're

gonna do one more time and they would you motherfucker and people would and that's when i figured it out that's when i went oh he's trying to be a dick he wants them to hate him i get it now and that's when the whole thing made sense to me of like whatever but before that i just knew there was something wrong about putting you know some guy who clearly has a day job you know nothing against day jobs but this guy is like doing extermination during the day he's like crawling in your under your house to get rid of your millipedes and then he's cleaning duct work yeah and then that night and then that weekend he's like oh sorry you know i can't go fishing with you guys i gotta go put a singlet on and let macho man randy savage flying elbow smash me on television at the early saturday morning I can't go fishing with you guys. I got to go put a singlet on and let macho man Randy Savage flying elbow smash me on television at early Saturday morning.

I can't be there. That fascinated me as a kid. Like, who the fuck is this guy? He has no chance. Why is he there? Why would he show up? You know, I didn't know. It's fascinating.

It's a different train of thought than most people have because most people watching and they're watching the announcer go to interview Randy Savage after the fight. And you're like running down the hallway being like, wait, hold on, Joe Lansing, I want to talk to you. I'm like, where's that guy go afterwards? He can't feel good about himself. I see him get beat every week. Let's go talk to Joe Lansing that nobody's ever heard of. He goes by his first and last name. This guy's got a nickname.

Maybe someday he'll get a win. So today we're going to talk about one of these guys. And this is a particularly interesting jobber because a lot of these jobbers were never meant to be anything but jobbers. They're just local guys. Wherever they're doing their television taping these are the guys that live within driving distance that they don't have to fly in and they bring them in and they pay them 100 bucks to get the shit beat out of them on television they'll have decent gig yeah they'll have four matches in a day because the tv tapings were like four weeks and they get

paid a few hundred bucks you know they make 400 bucks and they go home and they go back to crawling under your house to exterminate your millipedes go back to lansing yeah that's what they do so it's an interesting thing that's most of the guys they know who they are and then on smaller promotions these jobber guys are actually like somebody in smaller promotions there they might be the champion of the you know some tiny little promotion and then they're nobody on tv with wwf and you'd see like some of the jobbers are just young guys. Whereas like Mick Foley got beat by Kamala back in the day. And he got,

there's a, you know, it's a famous thing of Kamala splashing him and all this shit when he was Jack Foley in like 1986 or something and him getting beat by the beat up by the British bulldogs. There's, you know, Shane Douglas had these jobber matches.

So you get some young guys that go in before they're anybody but most of the time it's this kind of guy but this guy here he had they they were actually thinking about him being a character like if he did well he could have had like a figure and all this stuff but he was such a shitty wrestler that they were like never mind fuck that guy. God damn it, James. Who is he? It is.

You've never heard of him. Stephen Nathaniel Ketcher is his name. K-E-T-C-H-E-R. Oh, no. He went by Steve Gator Wolf. What? Steve Gator Wolf, which is probably the most Florida name I've ever heard in my life.

Yeah. That sounds like- It doesn't even exist. No. If you don't know most of the pot if you just asked everyone in florida what would you change your name to i would say 60 of the men would go steve gator wolf ain't nothing tougher than a gator and a wolf together yeah he's crawled his skin's like leather you know what i mean but he's like nasty like a wolf and tough like a gator. Two of them. Gator wolf. And my name's Steve, because everyone in Florida's name is Steve.

Sounds like something Napoleon Dynamite would draw. This is a gator wolf. This is my favorite animal of all time. It's a gator wolf. Steve Gator Wolf is his name, is what he goes by. It's a white people's chupacabra. Well, yes, but he's also a native american so he is oh yes and i don't know if he's a full-blooded native he says he is but i mean that

doesn't mean anything this is this is wrestling he also says he played college football for byu and i can't find any record of that either so there's this is wrestling man anything's possible here it's a real typical place for byu to go scout over there on the reservation i mean he's a big guy he's uh you know six foot six one you know 200 high 200s he's a big guy you know but mostly scouting dudes named casein or some shit like that but he is a mormon as well is he real yes he is so that's another odd thing he's apparently a native american mormon which is never heard of it i i don't know anything about it which is possible anything's possible hey he grew up in utah so i mean they're gonna get to you eventually there i assume so uh yeah idaho blackfoot idaho's named

blackfoot after the blackfoot indian tribe so who knows? That's what I mean. So Steve Gator Wolf, he is born in September of September 20th, 1957. So, yes. Now, I found the the his I believe his grandfather's. Oh, no, no. I'm sorry. This is his father's obituary. I found his father, James. He is was born in

cherokee county oklahoma i found uh cherokee was his native language so his father's definitely he's certainly native native if his cherokee's his native language that seems you know he grew up this is james his father on a 14 on 14 mile creek hunting and fishing for his family. So he grew up in a different way than, you know, he grew up like old-fashioned, like a native way. He attended Indian boarding school, which I didn't know that that was a thing, and then he ran away for good from his family, Jimmy. This all happened before he ran away. He was hunting for good from his family, Jimmy. This all happened before he ran away.

He was hunting and fishing for his family. Don't all this go into boarding school till he finally ran away. Guess what age he ran away, Jimmy? Eleven. Nine. They were depending on a seven-year-old for food before that. Go out and kill something. What Blue's Clues is is on i can't you'd think that uh uh some a family

losing their uh their foraging their person that goes and gets our our dinner would be probably devastating but if it's a seven-year-old how much food could he possibly be you know he must have been good at it everybody survived so i mean i don know. I'm sure he wasn't the only one tasked with this. But from what I can find out, he seems to have about eight brothers and sisters. Wow. So it's a big family. That's just so funny. You have kids.

I have kids. Can you imagine at seven? You can't send them out to do anything at seven. They'll get distracted. I'm not going to send them out with a gun and a fishing pole and say, come back with dinner. I can barely send them out to go have fun. Go outside and play. What's the Wi-Fi password out there? Good thing we're not relying on your fun for us to eat.

Yeah, no shit, man. So his father served in the C.C. Corps. father served in the cc court uh core i don't know what that is the cc core he was born in 1913 so seems like he would have been uh world war ii ish age he could have been in world war ii so maybe that's something to do with the service during the war cc core that makes sense uh you know the wrong guy i don't know some kind of home you know uh preparing I don't know. Some kind of home, you know, preparing. I don't know what the fuck. So he played baseball professionally. His father did. So he comes from an athletic family here.

He played in the Florida State Baseball League professionally, his dad. So that must have been cool, too, in like the 30s. Yeah. A cool time to play baseball. When all that mattered was the sport. Yeah, it was the national pastime. Everyone was obsessed with baseball back then. That's all anyone cared about.

No basketball, no football, no fucking hockey. That's for Canadians. Baseball was it. So that must have been cool at the time. He apparently taught baseball to a lot of kids in jacksonville florida where they settled down and uh he had a lot of leagues going but youth leagues that he would run and you know would run like big camps for kids to teach them baseball and shit like that uh he also belonged to the national painters union he's a house painter as well i didn't know there was a union i probably

doesn't exist anymore but you know there's unions i know competition and shit yeah well that's back then when there was like fucking unions when people could you know yeah had any yeah now they've they've uh they've somehow convinced union people that unions are bad which is hilarious just bastardized a trap yeah and i'm great that's and i say that unbelievable i say that because jimmy's in a union is why I say that he's in the electric unions. Yeah. Unions are a big deal. And they they make they get people working and living wage. And it's that will piss a lot of people off. That's hilarious. Also kills people as Jimmy Hoffa. so uh he got married to a woman named lois brian of jacksonville who i don't believe is uh native american so i feel like it's a half thing yeah lois brian of jacksonville just doesn't sound like jacksonville florida yeah yeah jacksonville florida i don't know there's a lot of native people in florida there is there is i i'm not saying but just yeah you never know so he's

her middle name could be running wolf we don't we don't know shit about her maybe it's gator wolf maybe that's where that came from lois gator wolf brian and then there's and then the young steven was like this is the only way to go i've drawn pictures of it my whole life. Now I can be it. Right. They got married on September 5th, 1944. That's when they started pumping out all these kids. They moved apparently to Arizona, to Mesa, Arizona specifically, where there's an LDS temple there. And as we know, there's a lot of Mormons in Mesa.

Boy, is it populated. Boy, there's a few of them out there. And that's where they joined that temple. And then they ended up going back to Florida. And they lived in Florida until 1974 when everybody moved to Utah at that point. So by 74, Steve was 17 years old. And he moved with his family out to Utah. and they all lived in taylorsville and um yeah apparently it was a lot of hunting and fishing and steve likes to hunt and fish with his dad and you know i'm starting to believe every fucking word this guy says yeah it sounds all all legit it. See, this is the thing, though. The BYU to play football.

BYU is not a community college. No. Their football teams, they're pretty documented. You know what I'm saying? If I'm going through rosters and I can't find him, I mean, he might have played. To his credit, he might have played on the freshman team. And so he technically played football for BYU. He didn't say, I was a varsity star.

I was a Heisman candidate. I don't know. Did you check their soccer program? Perhaps he uses football in that sense. You know what? Maybe he's a very European guy. That's a possibility. He's very well-traveled.

Who knows? Steve Gatorwolf is a very cultured man. Starting forward. Starting. So that's all I could find. The first real documentation of him that I could find is an article from July 7th, 1976 in a small newspaper in Utah. And the title is Man Arraigned. So I found that.

Uh-oh. It's not good. That's not's not good no that's a bad one it's a bad way to make your debut in the paper here he is everybody introducing man who's been arraigned not we will not even lead with his name nope just man all right you don't even know who he is don't worry about it. This guy. Some dude. It's fine. Oh, damn it.

He's arraigned. We got it taken care of. Don't worry about it. He's an asshole, but we got him. What was he arraigned on, Jay? Well, let's see. Stephen Nathaniel Ketcher, 57 East 400 North, number nine in Provo. Oh, no. He's addressing everything.

Back then, everybody had their address in the paper. and everything back then everybody had their address in the paper when there would be like a there'd be a car crash and they'll be like you know uh waiting on the corner and witnessing the crash was bob johnston of 1224 east 74th street apartment 12 and you're like why would you put that in there why is that important why would he gonna go to his house hey bob was that really what you saw i didn't if i saw you on the news i think you're full of shit bob just trying to say and they did that under the guise of thorough journalism now it's called doxing yeah back then it was like this person really exists i didn't make them up for the story that's why they would put it in there so you could it could be cross-referenced but then it was like we believe that they exist stop giving out everyone's address people are crazy you know the 76 too this

is before there was uh i don't know i feel like our we've had a different yeah did the mob change that is that what that is i mean i mean like yeah i would think yeah witnessing the mob boss be shot down in the street was fred taylor of 12 marketplace apartment 12 his children go to central high school and his wife drives a pink station wagon it's going to be great and then tomorrow's newspaper uh family murdered no witnesses family slain in four different locations all given out previously by the newspaper witnesses will be in court not uh giving any sort of interview with this moment so he's been arraigned in provost city court on a charge of theft um he he was referred to a public defender and he's released on his own recognizance so i don't know he's 18 years old at that point

he hadn't turned 19 yet that year. So he's 18 years old, gets busted for theft. So that could be anything. That could be kids. Maybe it's a fraternity prank for this BYU football team that he's joined. Who knows? Maybe his family sent him out fishing and he was just fishing in a hatchery. That's stealing fish.

You never know. He didn't know. He had no idea. He does not know but june 28th 1977 when he's 19 years old he decides time to time to lock it down time to get married here so he marries virginia boyd who is 21 years old of salt lake city and uh this is not only in 1977 more common for young people to get married but young mormon people in utah 21 is an old fucking maid by you know you're pushing it at that point like sweetheart you gotta you know

how you gonna pump out a dozen kids if you don't get started soon it was wild man real quickly just to tell you a quick story james my uncle did that where he went a back way through the woods and found this pond and was fishing all day just just yanking fish out. Then he came back to the house and he was like, just yanking, throwing a reel in, pulling the fish out. He came back to the house with like 30 fish. This is the greatest spot ever. They're like, where'd you get all that? And he goes, I'll show you a pond. So then he takes us through the roads down the front way and there's just sign after sign pointing the way to the hatchery.

And he's like, oh my God. I don't think we're supposed to let's get out of here and just go back home and have a fish fry and forget this that is hilarious man this spot's a it's hot it's a hot nobody has a clue about it there's nobody here it's awesome i found my own that's why there's so many fish nobody's fishing we gotta get the fish out of there's so many fish. Nobody's fishing. We got to get the fish out of there. There's not going to be any room for them in there.

They're bumping into each other. It's overpopulated. There's so many. Really, we're doing them a favor. That's fucking amazing. My favorite story of my dumbass uncle. It's like going to someone's refrigerator and being like, I found this amazing roast beef. I just found it. It was amazing.

You are not going to believe how much beer is in this fridge over here there's this spot with free beer and there's like fucking lunch meat in there and shit it's great i found olives i love green olives this is fantastic discovered it those little cherries those are fucking good discovered incredible so jesus christ anyway he uh steve here now he's a married man he's a married man upstanding married man and he's uh married virginia boyd like i said so jenny is what she goes by sure goes by jenny now 1982 comes around so a few years Goes by Ginny. Now, 1982 comes around. So a few years go by. Not sure what he's doing in this time period. I assume training to wrestle at some point because in 1982, he just pops up a wrestler.

Wow. And right away, he is Steve fucking Gator Wolf right off the bat. Right out of the gate. Right out of the chute. Steve Gator Wolf. Here I am. Yeah, that's my name he starts off in the awa which is the most fascinating wrestling group i've all time

verne gagne that's the verne gagne one the guy who killed the holocaust survivor when he had dementia when he's 93 or whatever i was this verne yeah verne verne had it rough so i want to do a bonus episode one of these days but it's one of these bonus episodes where i think no one unless you're a wrestling fan you won't know what the hell i'm going to talk about but it'll be so entertaining for anybody no matter what i want to talk about finding all the all the regions no no no i want to talk about how vince mcmahon took us like this special target on verne ganya and just drove him out of business i mean just really he was like i'm gonna fuck him that's the guy it was awesome he had like a vendetta against verne gagne so i'd

love to if vince had a a bone of humility in his fucking body he could make a killing on a podcast just talking about oh yeah all his missteps and how much he's fucked up oh meanwhile he's somehow insanely rich absolutely you know i mean if he could just swallow his pride for a minute and just admit he's a fucking dildo instead he's got there's a million people who worked for him that do that that's how they yeah that's bruce pritchard's whole podcast is him defending decisions yeah just talking about how dummy it's true it's true. It's true. He really could. Because there's a lot of dumb shit.

He could do a whole series, like a season, just on the gobbledygooker. What the fuck happened, Vince? Why did you think something coming out of a big egg was a good idea on pay-per-view? What's your problem, dude? You know, shit like that. He could ruin all of our bonus material. Yeah, he really could. It'd be all gone.

Who he said? Mantar. There we go. Yeah, look at him. We're going to put a big bison head on him and have him come to the ring. Yeah. I want a chicken with a mohawk. Let's run it.

So I found a card that he's involved in for AWA on April 8th, 1982 in Salt Lake City. And AWA spread out from Minnesota. And they had possession of all the western cities, pretty much, that were their cities to run in their territory. So they're based in Minnesota, but they took all the kind of shit nobody else wanted. And they had like Winnipeg, Salt Lake denver phoenix san francisco san jose kind of that north nobody wanted that that sounds amazing it's hard it's the problem is for wrestling companies it's hard to have territories there because there's no population centers that are within driving distance so to do a show in denver and then have everybody go to salt lake

city that's all that's a hell of a ride. Yeah, you can't really do that. Where Vern Gagne had his own shitty private planes, so he would fly his wrestlers to these shows. So that's why he could do Vegas and Salt Lake and Denver and San Francisco and Winnipeg and then go home. Wow. Yeah, that's how they did it. It's a wonder he didn't kill anybody like the Big Bopper. Oh, so many of those planes crashed. Ric Flair almost died in a plane crash.

He had a broken back. I mean, his career was over when he crashed. There's that story. Yeah, it's a plane crash. He tells it very in detail. The goddamn plane. They had all these shitty little private planes, and it fucking crashed. And one guy died, I think, in the crash.

Another guy broke his neck. Johnny Valentine had a broken neck, too. Greg the Hammer's dad. Ric Flair's story about Valentine is hilarious because he apparently was in the front of the plane and got kind of trapped in his seat the way the plane crashed. He couldn't fucking get out. And you've seen Greg the Hammer Valentine, stocky guy. His dad's stockier. So rather than wait for help or anything he just burst

through the top of the plane he just punched his way through the top of a plane and just yeah and popped his head out i'm here with a broken neck mind you yeah so yeah plane crashes like that happened all the fucking time car crashes there's so many guys that got killed in car accidents back in the day, these wrestlers. Sure. They were drunk as shit and driving. Yeah, they're driving middle of the night from town to town with a case of beer in the car. And deer runs out. An accident happens.

They fall asleep. Shittier cars with less safety features back then and crappier roads. So this particular card has a lot of big guys in it, actually. Jerry Blackwell and Brad Rangins. Greg Gagne. Oh, Jesus. Vern's son, who just is the worst physique in the history of wrestling. He just looks like a skinny guy.

He looks like someone's skinny dad who just took his shirt off and he's like, let's go, pal. You're like, what are you doing? Put your shirt on i love that uh jim brunzel jumping jim who's a killer b later on and ken patera who we've done a bonus episode on there that they fought bobby heenan and bobby duncombe okay now bobby heenan's a manager managing bobby duncombe and they their tag teaming together against Buck Rock and Roll Zoom Hoff. Oh, that bastard. The winner of the I believe that the first annual scumbag of the year award.

Actually, the scummiest man ever. And his tag team partner, Hulk Hogan. Oh, I have no idea how bad that man was. No, no, no. Hey, buddy, let's go out and do this, brother. OK, there we go. Hey, try not to touch any kids on the way out. Will you, brother? Yeah. Excuse me while I kiss my daughter on the mouth for good luck.

Well, I kissed my daughter and tell her not to go out with black people and call them the N word. All right. You don't touch any kids. Let's get it on. Who's the worst father? Buck. Buck is definitely a worse five absolutely and then but it is fun to ask who's the worst yeah it is because you have to think about it for a second yeah that's the sad part and finally this is this tells you kind of how small of a card it was in the the main event of the evening is a 14 man battle royal which is just we have 14 people here is what we have that's as many as we have why'd you have 14 because we didn't have 15 we had 14 it's usually 20 we didn't have 20 we had 14 we had 14 we had 14 it was uh baron von

rashki bobby duncombe bobby heenan brad rengens, Buck Zumhoff, Greg Gagne, the Iron Duke, Jerry Blackwell, Jim Brunzel, Kempe Tara, oh, Sergeant Jack Goulet. I wonder if that's Rene Goulet, possibly. But he always worked for WWF, so I don't know. And Sheik Adnan El-Khasi, and, of course, Steve Gatorwolf. And this is won by Hulk

Hogan, this one. So, he's in the ring with Hulk Hogan there, so that's good for him. That's pretty impressive. That's pre- WWF Hulk Hogan one so he's in the ring with hulk hogan there so that's good for him that's pretty impressive that's pre-wwf hulk hogan but he's on the upswing was he there he's no here he is uh what 20 24 okay 24 25 he is going in a full-blown american indian gimmick that's his gimmick which was there was a bunch of those back then you have to mind you now chief jay strongbow was one of the most popular guys in the northeast doing the whole full headdress you know fringes hanging off the boots you know chief jay strongbow who's actually a an italian man named jack scarpa or john scarpa scarpa's his last name which is he's an italian

guy from philly certainly Certainly not a Native American. No. Back then, though, a lot of Italians would play that. The guy crying on the fucking commercial. He's an Italian guy. That's what we used to do. Like, there's already Italian actors. He's kind of dark and has a big nose.

Throw him out there. Make him, yeah. There you go. That's pretty awesome. You put a headdress on him, who can tell the difference? At least this guy is at least half native. At least half. So he's going with that full headdress

and also Wahoo McDaniel at this time, who Wahoo McDaniel is a real full-blooded Native American. He played for the Jets in the NFL, and he's a stud, Wahoo, man. But he's going as that kind of next-generation guy. So that same year, a couple months later, he has a son. A son is born, damn it. Oh, boy.

Logan. Not Logan. That's good. Not Stephen Nathaniel Jr., so that's a health. And what year is that? That's 82, May of 1982. His son is born. Not a lot of Logans back then.'s 82 may of 1982 his son's part of logan's back then he was really out of his time with the douche meter yeah that is that's a real that's a

real popular one now it's uh but i wonder if uh that's something to do with i don't know in the mormon religion if more logan is a popular name or not you know i would not be surprised that that's a possible that's possible i don't we know very little about mormonism they love soft vowel names that's like that's a big deal they're into very little about mormonism they love soft vowel names that's like that's a big deal they're into soft vowels they're like that not too threatening when you come to the door you don't want to be too threatening these people have to know you mean peace you come in peace lots of long long o's and just very colton some shit like that. Yeah, something to lull them into wanting to hear more about having their own planet Sunday. Something to lull them into a tithe.

Yeah, lull them into a nice tithe. That's what we're trying to do. Lull them into a tithe. That is incredible. That's hilarious. So in 1983, Jimmy, his big break, not in wrestling, but in Hollywood, comes knocking on the door. What? A knock, knock, knock.

In 1983, he's in a movie called Revenge of the Ninja. Okay. Which sounds so generic. I looked it up on IMDb to be like, how many Revenge of the Ninjas are there? Several is the answer to that. They just made one last year during covid well they made one in 84 the next year just another revenge of the ninja completely different thing different story company the whole deal not even a sequel the original

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And in our latest season, Taylor Swift will shake up not only the music business, but Hollywood and the NFL. Follow Business Wars wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. This particular Revenge of the Ninja is directed by Sam Furstenberg, who sounds like your foremost expert on, you know, Asian culture and martial arts, I would assume. Sam Furstenberg. He took a couple of lessons in Orange County, a couple karate lessons in the early 70s out in Orange County in a strip mall,

and he's like, I gonna direct this um writers uh man oh my god man i'm gonna oh it's a golan but this fucking movie this is i just realized this it's written by a guy named james r silk that doesn't matter that's a screenplay based on an idea by monocum golem uh golem who is a famously terrible guy who they're terrible he makes awful shit gold terrible guy terrible uh their product that he produces yeah he might be a terrible guy i don't remember but i know at least his product is terrible he's the guy if i'm not mistaken who hounded sylvester stallone for two years to do over the top and just kept offering him more money more money till he finally got up to 20 million dollars and stallone said fuck it i don't i'll do it whatever 20 million he's the first 20 million million for that that's the first 20

million dollar job for an actor was sylvester stallone and over the top oh my god which was like an indie film essentially because this guy made these there's a whole documentary about the goal and the whole thing it's on i was on netflix or prime or something a whole documentary about his shit empire of bad films they made fascinated already i think they made superman 4 the real bad the quest for peace the bad one they made uh they made a bunch of bad bad bad bad shit and over the top was like there this is the one and it was based on this guy's idea and stallone's like i gotta arm wrestle for my son like what the fuck well i drive a tractor trailer but it was gonna be jimmy witzman's favorite movie at night oh god when we were in elementary school kids were just but you're but you'll rip your shitting arm off

put it up on the table. The cafeteria. Throw your head on backwards. You mean business. The elementary school cafeteria in 1987 was just an arm wrestling factory. That's all it was. It was just little kids arm wrestling each other. I'm not even kidding. I wish I was.

I really loved it. I've seen it since. It's a piece of shit. Oh, it's terrible. It's so bad. I'll watch it with Sarah every once in a while because it's amazing. It's just the best movie. It's a piece of shit. Oh, it's terrible. I've watched it. It's so bad. I'll watch it with Sarah like every once in a while because it's amazing. It's just the best movie. It's so bad.

I can't believe that that had a trailer for Fox 2 in movie theaters. That's amazing. They put money into this, and the only people that saw it were eight-year-olds. Like, us, basically. We're the only people who saw the movie. Such a bad movie. Bad stuff. Oh, man a bad movie bad stuff and it resonated with me it resonated with me because i was like i'd love to what if my dad's that guy yeah you never know we can just pop up in a big rig take any to vegas for the big arm wrestling tournament teach me how to drive a freight

liner let's go pop what a dream oh we could drive the Brute right to the Walmart, right up to the back gate. Just a whole truckload of Brute, because that's what they were carrying all the time across the country. To me, that piece of shit movie was a fantasy. It was great. Plus, he was a rich kid. Yeah. Yeah, that kid. Ripped that kid out of a fantasy life and threw him into this truck stop.

Gross, grimy shit. And the kid loved it. He just gave away a Marty McFly Toyota, just handed it over at the airport. He didn't give a fuck. His mom had just a vague cancer of some kind and just kind of straight sort of drops dead in the whole procedure. What a weird thing. What a weird, fascinating movie. I love Robert Lohge in that hall procedure. What a weird thing. What a weird. Fascinating movie.

I love Robert Loja in that, too. God damn it. God damn it, Hawks. So the plot of this movie, after ninjas killed his family, as they want to do from time to time, it happens. Cho and his son Kane come toica to start a new life he opens a doll shop what the is this mad libs what the fuck are we doing after ninjas killed his family cho and his son came come to america and he opens up a doll shop why not but is unwittingly importing heroin in the dolls. So the dolls he's importing are

apparently trafficking employees and they're going to him and now okay. When his friend betrays him, Cho must prepare for the ultimate battle. You think he would have prepared for the ultimate battle when ninjas killed his family. That would have been where he draws the line. Not

when his friend betrays him about heroin dolls. a shit plot that's i've had it now kill my wife slay my children and wear in their beds while they sleep that's fine i'll just move to another country to start a new life but fuck with me over some dolls pal it's go time I thought that they were trying to drag me into this war by killing my family. But now that they've put heroin inside my dolls, now I know for sure. It's over now, motherfucker. Now they got it in for me. I figured it out. Now I get it.

Yeah. I realize we're talking about a lot of off the rails things and I don't fucking care. This is fun and we're having a good time. They should have known when they wrote this piece of shit that we were going to make fun of it. It's going to get made fun of big time. In 30 years, these two guys are going to get a hold of this. Someone should. Gatorwolf plays, quote, Big Thug.

I don't know if that's his name or just his description but he's a big thug and uh there you go his big screen debut later on for and when i find like advertisements for shitty small wrestling shows he's a part of they'll say that he was in the chuck norris movie revenge of the ninja chuck norris is not in this movie he has nothing nothing to do with this he's not a producer that i found on this he's didn't write it chuck didn't do like a quick edit he didn't like polish up the script chuck did nothing don't blame chuck so 1984 in june i found this is a great this is a i'll show you the i'll turn you want to roll your chair over a little bit. I'll show you the advertisement in the newspaper. Pro Wrestling returns this Saturday night to the multi. Is that him right there?

That's him down here. See his whole headdress. He's got like the chops going. He's the Rocky Mountain heavyweight champion at this point in time. There he is. It's at the multi-purpose center. It's tag team action. Steve Gator Wolf and Mr. R.

I don't know what that versus the Ranger and Mr. Destruction. We'll talk a lot about Mr. Destruction. If Gator, it's hair versus mask. If Gator Wolf and Mr. R win, Mr. Destruction must unmask. If the Ranger and Mr. mr destruction win gator wolf loses his hair not his hair jimmy that's his source of power um but james what does it say right there where which one oh five big bouts including all bold letters the midget wrestlers they don't even get names. No, no, no.

There's one match they're advertising, and that's it. You can pick advance tickets up at Bottle Hollow. I don't know what the fuck that is. Five bucks are tickets for this. So it's a bargain. It'll be fun, I'm sure. You'll have a good time with the kids for five bucks. Can't beat that.

That's a smoking deal. It's a smoking deal. The guys get unmasked for five bucks. Let's do it. That's a smoking deal. It's a smoking deal. The guy's going to unmask for five bucks. Let's do it. That's not bad. I found an article a couple weeks later on from the Sun Advocate newspaper in Price, Utah. All about the big show coming to town now. Okay. Professional wrestling.

And this is a quote from the article. Professional wrestling and all the associated bragging and camp have returned to price after a 20-year absence. So this is like a small promotion that's going to these small towns and filling a gap, basically. There's been no nobody services these areas. Genius. So on posters and price, a $5,000 challenge. By the way, you could run these shows for six months and you won't make $5,000. So that's a $5,000 challenge is advertised to anyone who can body slam Mr. Destruction. The poster reads in part, come on, all you coal miners.

Let's see how strong you think you are, if you dare. So if you can body slam and you get five grand, what does that mean? If you can body slam. He will never allow it? He's a big, fat motherfucker. He's huge and fat, and he's saying, no one can body slam me. The wrestlers can't do it. I'll even open it up to everyone. It's an old-time carny trick that they used to have.

They used to have guys that would take on all comers back in the 30s, and that was a thing. You'd have a guy wrestle a match, and he'd beat a guy, and then he would take on all comers. And it would be some fat fucking farmer and overalls would step out i'll fucking take your own and he'd have to rip the guy's pop the guy's fucking eyeball out or something and not lose that's why the wrestlers back in the day were real nasty fighters because they would have to know how to actually win a fight actually fight not in a in a way that's you know like a moral victory if this big fucking farmer's attacking me and i'm gonna lose all my credibility here in the ring i better pop his eyeball out so he runs away screaming that's how it works so um he he says

mr destruction let all them wimps try no one can do it quoting the six foot eight inch 450 pound mass giant um i guarantee you he's probably six foot four and um 380 yeah because the even the wwf then would inflate people's size yeah they used to say hulk hogan was six foot ten hundred pound yeah you know he's not six show was 500 easy was he 500 fuck yeah look his ankles. They were the size of your thighs. He's a big guy. How tall was he? Six, eight? No, no, no.

He was a legit. He had to get surgery to stop growing. He was a legit seven foot two or whatever. Really? He had the same thing Andre had. Andre the Giant, where he just kept growing and growing and growing, including his organs. And that's why Andre died of an enlarged heart. His heart kept growing

so uh he had a surgery though andre didn't want the surgery and it was not that uh the surgery wasn't as routine kind of i don't think it's a routine anyway but it was a little bit more risky back in the day and andre just said he didn't want it and just kept growing whereas big show had it done so that's why he's still alive you know and can still move around and shit because his organs aren't exploding do they like like it's a gland thing your your pituitary gland yeah it's a gland thing they have to do a something to do with a overactive shit i don't know obviously that much about it but it's the phrase it's glandular is like a common trope that's a joke yeah it's a legit thing for him yeah they just they keep

growing they never stop growing and including their organs that's why all their organs get too big and that's what happens that's how guys like that die so um yeah they're saying uh tickets for this particular show and price at the national guard armory are four dollars which is really cheap they're saying steve gator wolf the six foot four inch 300 pound indian from oklahoma who's a former brigham young university football player no and is being promoted he's not six four either he's like six maybe one maybe i'm talking maybe six one probably six foot and brigham young didn't talk about him ever so So no, so lies and lies wasn't that good. The only part of that that's not a lie is probably 300 pounds in Indian.

I think are the only two truths there. And it's not even real. No, this is a, well, it gets worse here. The six, four,

300 pound Indian from Oklahoma, who's a former, he's not from Oklahoma either, by the way, that's the other thing in the WWF, the internet, uh, insurance, announce him, announce him or introduce him as from Pawhuska Oklahoma which is where they had Chief Jay Strongbow from they're just like anyone who's Indian comes from Pawhuska Oklahoma

so he's a former Brigham Young University football player and is being promoted as the former Rocky Mountain champion and one of the stars in the chuck norris movie revenge of the ninja no no not chuck norris and he played big thug which i would assume is not a starring role is is the person that wrote this like the person that writes the news now i don't know everything's just like a little bit off of the truth it's almost there it's close somewhere not there it's close this is just like back in the day if you had friendly newspapers that would want to help the event they would you know they would just write whatever the fuck you wanted that's all wait till you hear the things he says later in the papers it's hilarious gator wolf will fight in the feature attraction in the Indian death match against the Ranger, who's an inch taller than Gator Wolf, but 40 pounds lighter.

The Ranger is a former martial arts instructor for the special forces who Gator Wolf said was discharged due to reports of unnecessary roughness. They're setting up a whole backstory in the newspaper. This is crazy gator wolf quoted ranger as saying so this is gator wolf quoted wow because he's the promoter here i think he's helping promote it i'm too rough for wrestling too and gator wolf knows it i'm the champion now and i said i should wrestle hulk hogan not that half-breed Indian. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. I'll prove it again to the people after I destroy him Saturday night. So he thinks he should be beating Hulk Hogan rather than fighting a, quote, unquote, half-breed Indian. That's a fascinating choice of words.

Wow. Now, Gator Wolf said the only reason he's not champ is because of a an interference in one of his matches he's very upset about it a lot of storylines going on he said quote mr destruction interfered with the match that cost me my title now i'm getting a chance to get it back in my type of match the indian death match which i'm undefeated in okay undefeated no disqualifications no time limit no stopping for blood it's a death match damn it yeah to the death or 15 minutes do they suppose the death or when they agreed with the venue or they'd be out of there by one of the other it's hard to

wrestle again next tomorrow night in i don't know tec, if, uh, or wherever the fuck we're going. If everyone's, half the roster's dead. Winners against winners now. Yeah. We got to fight in Gallup tomorrow. That's fucking amazing. Gator Wolf, after he wins this match,

and wins back his title, by the way, Yeah. There's an article in this newspaper that says, uh, he says that he wrestled he says that he wrestled hulk hogan to a one hour time limit draw which hulk hogan has never wrestled a one hour time limit draw in his fucking life the whole point of rick flair wrestled one

hour draws ricky steamboat one hour draws terry funk and the briscoes did one hour fucking broadways they're not doing he's not hulk hogan's not in a one hour match ever just it's never happened that is so long it's yeah they would do it because the guys would know how to pace themselves and it would be they could make it exciting to have a draw and they did they did back in the day that's how they you know not hurt people because they would come in the you know back in the day, that's how they, you know, not hurt people because they would come in. You know, back in the day, it was territory. So the N.W.A. champion would come to this territory and their big guy in that territory would fight him. Well, he can't just beat the shit out of that guy and ruin him in his own territory. So they'd have an hour long match where it looked like the local guy was going to win the whole thing.

And then, oh, it's a draw. And then the champ goes on to the next town. That's how they did it. So he's saying that that happened. He said now that he won this Rocky Mountain title back, he said that he's, quote, in line for a title shot against Hulk Hogan, who he considers a good friend, by the way, as well. Obviously, we're tight. You know, the rich guy who wrestles in New York and me who's in a fucking price utah

gymnasium multicultural center multi-purpose room daring coal miners to slam a fat man for five thousand dollars like cafeteria slash uh meeting room slash wrestle room slash not coal miners what are they mining in utah quartzite i don't fucking know i wouldn't be surprised if there's coal up there. Is there coal? I have no idea. Beats the shit out of me. I don't know.

All we do know is there's no oil in Florida. That's what we have found. Other than that, we're not positive of anything. He considers Hulk Hogan to be a good friend. And he says that he's ready to fight. He's acting like there's an imminent title match with hulk hogan that he's gonna have okay he says quote i hope he remains my friend after the match there is no match scheduled um because i'm going to do everything in my power to dethrone him he's a very large man

and an extremely powerful one but i believe with my strength and speed and wrestling ability he will have his hands full i've got to to get by the Ranger first and get my title back. So once I beat the Ranger, some no-name guy, then I got a match all lined up with Hulk Hogan because that one-hour draw, I almost had him in about 52 minutes, but he got by me, slipped by me. Wow. Joe Frazier didn't shit-talk Muhammad Ali on his way to whatever fight he had to get to do to get to Muhammad Ali. You're not shit talking that guy. And Joe Frazier had a legitimate shot to fight Muhammad Ali.

This would be like if you had like three bouts in South Phoenix somewhere. I haven't started fighting yet. But when I do. I'm ready for the title fight. We're good friends and i hope we remain that way afterwards but i think i have what it takes to beat him i took him to a 12 round draw earlier it was a totally you know even on the scorecards as an added attraction to this the famous quote famous midget wrestlers will make their appearance in the ring among them will be little brutus from chicago and adam ant adam like an adam a little adam adam man that's clever as fuck he's like a

little punk rocker he's a little punk rocker that's fucking awesome from las vegas both weigh in at less than 125 pounds so there you go now july it's so funny but i love it i love it it's this i that's what i mean i don't if you're not interested in this and you're like where's all the crime there's going to be so much terrible crime later just trust me on that but this is fun and this is a comedy thing and we're doing this for comedy and if you're like i want to hear a list of this and that then there's a 278 other episodes enjoy we're having a good time you don't want to hear a list of this and that, then there's 278 other episodes. Enjoy. We're having a good time. You don't want to be a part of it. That's up to you.

Come back next week for whatever. But right now we're doing this because it's fucking fun. Here's July 6th of 84. Here's Mr. Destruction. Look at him. The guy in the mask is Mr. Destruction here. Real nondescript. Very nondescript. Yeah, and I can't even tell who the fuck it is. here's mr destruction look at him the guy in the mask is mr destruction here real non-descripted very non-descript i yeah and i can't even tell who the fuck it is and i look these guys up most

of these guys are i don't know who they are they're like came and gone just indie wrestlers they have no like flash in the pan can't even find anything about them so um yeah a crowd there this is about this is a wrap-up about the show that happened in Price, Utah. This paper, I hope they were getting a cut of this shit because, wow. Saturday night, several cars arrived in Price carrying a ton and a half of professional wrestlers who drove to the National Guard Armory to twist legs, thump each other on the head, and throw each other out of the ring. Oh, boy.

That's so well written. That is, he's really trying to flower this bitch up, isn't he? A ton and a half of wrestlers. A ton and a half of wrestlers, which seems like there'd be more weight to them if there's a whole card, but. 3,000 pounds of wrestler? Yeah, I guess 3,000 pounds. That's 10 300 pounders.

That's a lot of dude. That's a lot of dude. Can't even have a 14-man battle royal with what are you gonna do not a crowd of 825 people showed up to watch them wow one of the wrestlers steve gator wolf said they were so very surprised at the overwhelming turnout and response by the crowd overwhelming at 800 we draw better than that we have shows with more people than that but the size of the crowd was not the only surprise the fans seemed to like the seemed like a normal crowd at first but as the matches continued many people became increasingly serious about the business at hand uh-oh these people really are hurting for entertainment uh price city police lieutenant alex shell

shellio said four people had to be kicked out of the armory before the matches even started. They were holy shit, chomping at the bit to get there. Some during some of the last matches, several 10 and 12 year olds could not contain themselves and getting to from getting too close from the ring. But the kids were not the only enthusiastic people in the crowd. Local minors and others were challenged before the matches to body slam Mr. Destruction for $5,000. Another man was calling on was calling on Destruction in his dressing room before the matches and said he would knock him out by using his jujitsu, which I don't know how you would knock. That's a grapple. I don't know.

The man voiced his threats to police reporters and others but by the time destruction was waiting for takers in the ring the man's wife had canceled his plans to knock destruction out this guy went in the dressing room talking shit wanting like knocking on the door wanting to beat this guy up some fucking some fucking minor random guy the cops had to pull him away and then his wife talked him down and they never mind and then they threw 12 year olds and 10 year olds out for being too close to the ring too close to the ring you little bastards so he also though in 84 makes his wwf debut fantastic we now uh from what i find the first one here seems to be at salt lake city again so

he's remember i said they bring in local guys to wherever they are he's a local utah guy so you don't have to fly him in so he uh he gets the shit beaten out of him by big john stud who i don't know if you know who he is but he's a huge six foot nine 380 pound giant fucking man that uh andre the giant used to fight with all the time so uh stud big john stud he had like white pants with stars on them he had long ones with red boots long blonde hair like a big his head was the size of your torso like in width it's just enormous it's not the original hacksaw jim duggangan? No, no, no, no. Did he carry a two-by-four around? He did not, no. He should have. Big John Studd.

Bobby the Brain was his manager in WWF. He was badass. So also that night, there's a battle royal, an 18-man battle royal, so at least they're getting closer to 20, where Andre the Giant is the winner. Fantastic. Over Adrian Adonis, Big John Studd, Dick Murdoch, Ivan Putzke, Jerry Valiant, Jesse the Body Ventura, Mad Dog Bashan, Neil Mascaris, Moondog Rex, Moondog Spot, Rocky Johnson, that's the Rock's dad, and SD Jones, Salvatore Balomo, Steve Gatorwolf, Tiger Chung Lee, and Tito Santana. That's a great lineup. Moondog was a flyer, right? No, no. The moon dogs were

like, they were a tag team of, uh, there were several different incarnations of them, but they were like these gross guys and they would carry around big dog bones. They were just kind of these fat guys that wore like cutoff jeans. Who am I thinking of that does like moon salts? Um, everybody now, was there a dog that did that? British bulldogs, dynamite kid, dynamite kid, athletic as fuck. He did crazy shit. And this is around the time he came in, too. Next, they're in Phoenix.

Jimmy, where were you there? The July 29th, 1984, when they were at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum, of course. Oh, they're playing there, huh? Oh, yeah. Suns Arena. Where he's beaten by Steve Gator Wolf again. Have you been in that place recently james no i never was there ever ever my first son's game i ever went to was after

my my mom moved there i came out and that was the first game in america west which is now whatever us disgusting place on earth now you drive by it looks disgusting the inside they have not watched it the shithouse on McDowell. Since Tom Chambers was dunked. Oh, my God. Did we both just do... Since Tom Chambers, we both said. Perfect.

They haven't washed the inside of it since 91, and they have like... That's where they have the state fairs. They have like horses and shit in there every fall. It's disgusting. They just sweep it to the sides. Put it onto the bleachers. And then they have Scotty McCreary play there. Oh, perfect.

It's a small-time murder reference from a festival that was from last week. Good shit. Listen to that episode. It's wild. So that night, there's also a battle royal featuring the same people that were in the other battle royal. It's just they're going the same card from city to city no one in utah saw phoenix so there you go that's a big venue yeah it's big it's big well that was 84 that's when wwf was expanding huge hulk hogan had come and become champion and you know for january of 84 so

this is when they're blowing up they have wrestlemania in march of 85 this is uh when cindy lauper's getting involved the summer of 84 all the rock and wrestling stuff's going on they're getting really big at this point october of 84 he's back for uh rocky mountain wrestling at the uh un uh uinta high school uinta uinta i guess i don't know what the fuck how you say that it's uh it's an indian tribe i guess so uh this is colorado springs it's it's it's oh okay this is in yeah vernal utah okay there's the there he is with his chop the jesus the main event is an elimination match, which makes no sense. An elimination match would be like three on three, like a six-man tag where if you lose, your whole team doesn't lose.

You just leave, and now your team has less people. That's an elimination match. Yeah. This is a one-on-one match. So that's how every one-on-one match is an elimination match. Yeah. Every single one. Somebody's got to be tagged out.

Someone's got to lose. Yeah. a lot somebody's gotta be tagged out someone's gotta lose yeah so uh and in this it says right under his picture steve gator wolf star of the movie revenge of the ninja under him gotta stop it star six four 285 pounds from oklahoma not true not true not true and not true none of that's true his name is steve that's the only true thing in there five dollars for tickets three dollars for students not bad and then i found well i'm shocked the sales jimmy this is a quick venture into sales because i found some real weird ones here this is the vernal mine company deer hunter special it's called yeah prime rib or shrimp dinner with choice of potato and vegetable for only 6.95 it ends the deer hunters hunter special and it says

ladies only so does that mean i'm not allowed to eat there only ladies can get this special why why is deer why are we serving shrimp and and prime rib for deer hunting and then the other thing why is a place called the vernal mine company a fucking restaurant is another problem i have here there's a lot of mines there they're actual mines none of it lines up none of this lines up and then it must be a thing around this area the deer hunter special because check this out another place deer hunter special this is a completely different place this is a some pizza place one dollar off with coupon pizza or italian dishes salad bar greek items mexican food hot or cold sandwiches and it's uh pizza pizza what is that a a barn? Pizza barn. Pizza barn, yeah. And their slogan is, a little pizza never hurt anyone.

It's true. Which is true. But I've had pizza in Utah. It'll hurt you. Depends on where you have it. It must be just a deer hunter special season. Yeah, I guess so. Must be specials around deer hunting season.

I guess, man. around deer hunting season i guess man and then finally come over for co-ed aerobic fitness some program dance what is this dance 80s i think it's i think it's dance 80s uh auditions for new instructors are coming on so if you happen to be in utah in 1984 you can do this uh leggings and a leotard you inquire at the workout parlor and you call Terry, which sounds like who you would call to try out to be an aerobics instructor. Terry.

And then another one I got to show you here. This is from the paper. Very important. See these kids here? Yep. They grew a big pumpkin, Jimmy. So that tells you, tells you what kind of newspaper we're talking about.

It's bigger than the toddler. It's a very large pumpkin. It's about up to the kid's dick yeah it's that's a pretty big pumpkin that's up to a 12 year old's dick right there that's what it is the 12 year old dick height be very confusing when you compliment the stem on that it's a stem no not even get out of here buck it's a 223 inch 223 pound seven foot three inch circumference that's two and a half feet high pumpkin 223 inch stem on that it's a big old stem now here's some more bullshit from steve gator wolf now rocky mountain wrestling presents this is december 84 now look at what do you see when you see Rocky Mountain Wrestling, professional wrestling?

All right. It's a picture of him next to Hulk Hogan. Yeah. And Hulk Hogan's not on this card. It looks sure looks like he is, doesn't it? He is certainly pushing his relationship with Hulk. And it's an AWA picture. And it's clearly one where he said, hey, can I get a picture with you? Hulk has no shirt on.

He's like ready for the ring. Steve's in a fucking button down with a jacket on. Butterfly collar. That's like when comics put the used venues they've performed at as credits. Where am I going to see this show? Who's on this? credits where am i going to see this show that who's on this it says under the picture of them together steve gator wolf rocky mountain champion star of the movie revenge of the ninja yeah then it says hulk hogan world champion star of the movie rocky 3 so okay but he's not on the fucking

card he's not going to be there it's just the guy guy on this card once met Hulk Hogan and took a picture with him. That's literally what they're advertising. It's at Delta High School. The main event's an Indian death match. No time limit. No rules. No stopping for blood. There must be a winner.

A winner receives a world title match against Hulk Hogan in a future match. Some other time. Some other place. Not here. Not tonight. against hulk hogan in a future match some other time some other place not here not tonight not to mention that hulk hogan has nothing to do with these people and nothing you do here will have anything to do with what hulk hogan's doing or what you're doing with hulk hogan that's the other thing remember that asshole that used to be here that would promote comedy shows by saying charlie sheen might be there tonight that's the same thing what what are you doing why would you at least he didn't

at least he didn't post a picture of him next to charlie sheen saying you know because that's what this guy did he's a horse shit open micer right in 1984 on social media somehow who met hulk hogan some one day no shit so anyway steve gator wolf's fighting the warlord okay who looks like the same guy as the ranger so i don't know what the hell the difference is probably is um and also on this card we continue the five thousand dollar mr destruction body slam challenge says never been body slammed come on if you ipp workers if you dare so he's like challenging a specific company's work like a reunion where like come on you pussy miners Coca-Cola dock workers

come on down Jesus Christ anyone who can body slam Mr. Destruction come on you tough guys take a chance okay and then special attraction ladies wrestlers oh yeah super Sabrina versus cow girl dixie star there you go

and it's presented by the delta high school letterman's club i shit you not um so uh yeah mr destruction uh continues to challenge local men he says quote let all them wimps and rednecks try. So just trying to piss people off. Now, the main event, Steve Warlord versus the Warlord or Steve Warlord, Steve Gator Wolf versus the Warlord. cycle gang leader who has just been released this past may from prison after serving a year for beating up five policemen and 10 wrestling fans during a wrestling match in which he was wrestling they said the word wrestling three times in one sentence which is way too many nobody does the warlord is quoted as saying quote i don't care about nobody i only care about me and me only i will cripple that half-breed indian and g wolf, and the only thing he will be able to do will be to sell beads and blankets from his teepee. Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ, man. Calm down. What the fuck is happening? Only thing he missed was moccasins and smallpox. Yeah. Why not just run the... I'm going to give him smallpox. I'm going to beat him, and then he's going to be diseased with smallpox when I'm through

with him. Hit a Trail of Tears reference, you fucking jerk. Just because he got the promoter to get me to sign a contract to face him in this Indian match doesn't make me scared at all. Gator Wolf will be finished after this match. And then I will wrestle that big goof Hulk Hogan for the world title. And he said, they might as well just give me the world belt now.

Oh my Gator Wolf said, this is a type of match that has no rules, no time limit and no stopping for blood. I've never been beaten in this type of match. And I'm going to make that walking garbage can pay dearly for what he said about my family, my Indian people, and me. There you go. The wait is over.

So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything.

I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her?

Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that?

I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice. only on freebie and then uh they asked him in the paper if it was if wrestling is real or not okay and he said quote and listen to this answer this is some political some good politician ducking and dodging here yeah he said it said, it's a sport like anything else.

Okay, he starts out, it's a sport like anything else. We are the only professional athletes who can say and prove whatever we say. We are all different individuals. Some of us are very colorful, some very rough, and some are very smart. The least criticism we get is from other athletes. The ones who say we aren't real are the 99% of husbands or boyfriends who are jealous of us. I guess they don't look like their ladies. I guess they don't like their ladies looking at us. I guess they feel their manhood is threatened or something.

But they are entitled to their opinions like we are to ours. If it was fake, anybody could do it. but we are not anybody or nobodies. We can prove ourselves. I broke my hip in a wrestling match, and I have numerous scars and other injuries to show that it isn't fake. Very, very upset there. How dare you question his deal. Now, WWF at this point takes him in as they're thinking about making him the next indian

uh character indian character because chief j strongbow is old as fuck he's bald he looks terrible out there they got to get him out of the ring they have to and they want to pass that to the next guy because he was a very popular character chief j would get in trouble and he'd do like the war dance thing and then they you know the crowd would go crazy that was his hulking up so he appears in the i don't know if you've ever seen this the land of a thousand dances wwf video no no no no no no no that shit okay i get the song never saw it meatloaf is playing the drums in this video look it up everybody meatloaf is playing the drums and he's got a band and they're on a stage like it's like a video like a video shoot you'd shoot on a big stage like a concert video right and there's the song from uh from uh uh great

outdoors that song i yeah yeah i think so yeah where they're all, it's about, yeah. Dances and all that shit. So yeah, they have all of the bad guy wrestlers on like, like a kid's choir would be like teared up on like bleachers, right? They have all of the bad guy wrestlers like that. And then on the other side of meatloaf and his band are all of the good guy wrestlers. Okay. And they're all dancing to this song and then singing parts of it like a word or two here

and there it's amazing it's amazing it's amazing no no it's the whole band there's a band but meatloaf is playing the drums and singing star of the show yeah clearly so it's ever i'm talking bobby heenan has lines vince mcmahon has a line hey you're gonna do that i don't remember what the fuck he says and uh are they made up words no they're the fucking words to the song yeah and they're all dancing and smiling and the fuck they keep just showing these like you know big sweeping shots of all the guys and to see all of these wrestlers in a group is so ridiculous like individually they're ridiculous but when you put them all together and it's like one guy's got this and he's got a top hat and the other guy's

got a fucking feathered headdress and then this guy's all yellow and they're gimmicks they're all dressed in their gimmicks to the nines you know i'm uh nikolai volkov is a russian hat and a ussr sweater and sheik's got the kefi on his head and all this shit like it's a fucking it's ridiculous it's ridiculous and in the back row of the good guys and this is the other fucked up part he's on the good guy side and i think he switches to the bad guy side at some point but steve gator wolf is in this video in the back he doesn't have any song lyrics but he's in the back clapping and dancing with his big headdress going back and forth so every time they do a wide shot you can your head your fucking eyes automatically go to him back there with his headdress it's amazing but that's your that's not

a job or thing there's no other jobs sd jones is there but he's kind of like a half job or two otherwise these are all the superstars quote unquote so he's in that group of like recognized you work here wrestlers you know i think they just wanted to have a headdress up there because you know they needed the hole to fill it in you gotta i would we'll say hold on i would i would fucking play the video and we would laugh at it but i don't think i can do the song that i think it'll be a copyright thing so yeah i can't do that but you need to look it up because it's un-fucking-real it's wild right after this so everyone needs to do that then he also appears on the vince mcmahon talk show tuesday night titans which was a talk show he set up like a

fucking tonight show set where he had a little desk and lord alfred hayes was his like you know he'd sit there with him as like his the little british guy would be like his ed mcmahon and they had a couch and he'd go our next guest is this guy and they're all wrestlers there's no like anybody outside of show it's all just wrestlers and they interview them and act like it's a talk show a late night talk show that only has wrestlers on and they do it in their gimmick obviously oh yeah you can't talk to hulk hogan about his daughter at home no no no you do it about that it's about the gimmick but it's also like kind of partially like well you know yeah i did that movie last year and that was pretty cool and got to hang out sylvester stallone they shit like that too but it was also all within the gimmick

there was no breaking kayfabe with it but the guys would be in street clothes they'd be like and you know hulk hogan would come out with like a jeans and cowboy boots and a tank top on and you know shit like that so gator wolf appears on tnt so that's again that's that that's how he's like grooming people and preparing them and getting them you know getting them uh exposure so he's on the way he's on the way then he appears uh also uh oh this is funny oh tnt yeah uh gator wolf uh that night it was him tag team champions brutus beefcake and greg valentine and fuji in morocco which is a famous segment so pretty cool also on that night uh on let's see september 20th 1985 they had uh what is this you could watch tennis virginia slims of newport

women's singles and doubles finals from newport rhode island so there's that either one virginia slims were sponsoring tennis they were ladies tennis that tennis. That's why I said it. I thought it was funny. And now for Marlboro Swimming. We're going to go to the Winston pole vaulting championships now. That is incredible. And the 500 meter camel relay.

You know that's going to happen. The Newport sailing championship also that requires your respiratory system and they're smoking that's a lot of bulls then he appears on an episode of saturday night's main event which was the once a month it would replace snl and be a late night prime time late night uh network television thing it was a big fucking deal he they put him out there on the same card uh this is uh mr t fighting uh cowboy bob orton uh hulk hogan versus magnificent morocco this is the lead up to wrestlemania one so this is a big deal. We have Valentine and Beefcake versus the British Bulldogs.

Adrian Adonis versus the Junkyard Dog. And Steve Gatorwolf versus King Kong Bundy. Nobody has any questions about this. It's all good. Also on that night, let's see here,

Solid Gold Countdown 85 where host Dionne Warwick looks back at the top hits of 85 with guests Stevie Wonder, Madonna, Whitney Houston, Billy Ocean, the Thompson Twins, Tears for Fears, countdown 85 where host dion warwick looks back at the top hits of 85 with guest stevie wonder madonna whitney houston billy ocean the thompson twins tears for fears tina turner the pointer sisters and more including interviews with hall and oats sting phil collins and kenny rogers how much more do you need or you could watch steve gator wolf get beat up by king kong bundy on the same time also the twilight zone was on that night. Yeah.

That's amazing. Come on. Also, Hawaii Five-0 and the Twilight Zone were on at the same time, which I find funny. He gets crushed by Bundy, by the way. But Bundy, they were really grooming him to be somebody. Grace. This is Grace here, obviously. Come on. This is the best it's going to get.

Yes. And it's Grace because Bret Hart tells a story later on. And who knows? Wrestlers have stories and you don't know what's true or what's kind of colored by bumps to the head and everything else over the years. And that's kind of the fun of wrestling, too, is you don't know what the fuck's real and fake because the sport, you don't know what's real and fake. Yeah. And when guys tell stories from 35 years ago, you know, I mean, they're accurate a lot of times, but they're colored with their own whatever. And it just happens.

So Red Heart tells a story that Vince had big plans for Steve Gator Wolf when he brought him in. So I put him in the video and all that shit. He said that he wanted him to be the next Indian star after Chief J because he was young and ready to go. They wanted to have action figures, a marketing plan. He was going to be their fucking Indian. Vince loves having a Native American character. He had Chief J, tried with this guy,

then he had Tatanka in the 90s. He loves that shit. Aesthetically, it looks amazing because the garb of Native culture is fucking beautiful. And it's an automatic good guy. That's the other thing. Indian automatic good guy.

Who's been fucked more than this guy? You know what I mean? They come out. Seriously. And they're like, oh, he's very he's very honorable and blah, blah, blah. And he's, you know, the spirit of the great horse shit, whatever bullshit they're saying. And that means he's a good guy. Yeah.

Look at that. So his first television match, the way Bret Hart tells it, his first match at television taping, Chief Jay Strongbow, who was a road agent, he's kind of telling the guys what to do in the ring, what the finish is going to be or that sort of shit, how long to go, basically. He's also taking, they told him,

hey, work with Steve Gator Wolf because he's also taking they told him hey work with steve gator wolf because he's the next you so can you help him he told him the points of the match to do his war dance thing that he does and then he said to end with a he's supposed to win the match because this is his introduction and then he said end the match with a big war dance after the victory. You have to establish that that's your thing, so that when you're in trouble, you can do it, and the crowd knows that you do it, and it gets them jacked up. He apparently didn't have a good match.

When you watch him in the ring, he's not good. He's just not good. He's just not. You can watch. Clumsy and sloppy. Look up on YouTube. He's just not smooth. I mean, he doesn't go to the right spots.

His footwork's clumsy. He's just a bit clumsy compared to that top-level guy. So he apparently had a non, just wasn't great. He's trying to do the chop like Flair and those guys do, because Wahoo McDaniel made that famous. He had a huge one. And it's just not good. He doesn't have a lot of pop to it.

A little slap, yeah. Not coming off well, and then he wins the match and forgot to do his war dance and just won the match and went back to the back. That was it. That was it. Yeah. They literally blew it.

Yep, they literally gave up on him, and he was a jobber after that. He came back, and they went, never mind, doesn't do it. Yep. They literally gave up on him and he was a jobber after that. He went from he came back and they went, never mind. Can't doesn't do it. Has no charisma. Can't follow instructions. Match look like shit. Couldn't even do the war dance.

Fuck this guy. Couldn't even capital. You won. Celebrate. Mother. So he joins the the all the great jobbers in history. And we'll go through them quickly because I am obsessed with this. Some of the guys and I found some crazy motherfucker compiled win loss records for these guys over over the years, which is awesome.

Steve Lombardi, the Brooklyn brawler who's been there forever. And everybody would make fun of him saying he went to the terry garvin school of self-defense which means terry garvin fucked him that's what that means so anyway they would say it on the air on the air him and him and lord alfred hayes gorilla would go he's a graduate of the terry garvin school of self-defense and then lord alfred would say oh yes yes i hear very much um Very strong people come out of that. Very good with a lot of reverses and things from the back. Very good at attacking from the backside.

And they're literally telling these fucking jokes on the air. All these ass rape jokes right into the camera. No one knows what they're saying. Steve Lombardi was 159, 159 wins, because they tried to push him a little bit as a brooklyn brawler yeah 1253 losses holy shit man for an 11 win percentage not good uh jose estrada had 692 losses and 148 wins barry horowitz who they actually gave a little bit of a push to at one point as a as uh he's a nice jewish boy was his gimmick literally he didn't in the 80s he was just a punching bag though he 87 and 685 for him

holy shit jose luis rivera steve king charlie fulton uh bob bradley terry gibbs that terry gibbs was one of those guys that was there all the time he was every week he was one of the guys getting beat 13 309 and 11 four percent win percentage for him uh barry o who is cowboy bob orton's brother and who also accused uh multiple people in the wwe of sexual harassment he's one of the guys really absolutely we went over that in the scandal bonus episode that we did a while back uh he lost a shitload of matches ron shaw who was a really big guy who was like blonde and balding on top and had like short hair and you were like oh if only your head was different you'd be great terrible stuff here uh louis piccoli who actually turned into a better guy and then died um jesus christ who else do we have here reno riggins oh my god i remember him and then my favorite of all

time jimmy this is my favorite we'll go through a couple more but my favorite of all time the guy that i wondered about the most is a guy named mario mancini mario mancini they have his record as 3 131 and 2 for a 2% win percentage look can i show you mario mancini and you'll understand what i'm talking about 132 yeah three wins 132 losses not good can i show you your rollover for a second check this fucker look at him oh he's just a fat italian guy he looks like you'd buy a sandwich from him at a deli yes did he eat a meatball sub as he walks down the entrance it looks like he's got some sauce on his singlet that he just he was eating before he came up but he's just it looks somebody. When I was a kid, that's what Italian dads look like. And he has the curly Italian hair, and he's got a mustache, and he looks like how he's doing.

They let him win three times. I thought that was nice of them. Oh, it used to fascinate me. Like, what does that guy do? He just goes home and has Sunday dinner now, and he's just like, yeah, you know, I got beat up a few times the other day. What a fucking fascinating life this man has poor mario oh poor mario mancini but he was the one where i was just like what does he do he's like a short guy real pear-shaped like just fat with like these fat legs not real athletic

he took a decent beating but like some nice hips on him oh yeah oh he's got some childbearing hips on him this guy i just don't get it dude it was so weird uh who else we got here charlie brown i don't remember charlie brown stop it of course he lost a lot remember charlie fulton uh i don't remember charlie brown here who else we got uh joe jimmy jack funk jimmy jack funk's another guy like gator wolf who they brought him in with intense to do something with him, and he was just too terrible, so he was a jobber. They brought him in as one of the Funk cousins. Like, they had Terry Funk. Terry and Dory, who are, like, legendary guys, they brought them in, and they gave him this guy, and they were like, he's a cousin or something.

And then a year later, Coco Beware has beaten him on TV. Garbage. Oh, Joe Murto. I remember him, too. or something and then a year later coco beware is beating him on tv garbage oh joe murto i remember him too joe murto was another one that was like always fucking uh always on tv oh they even have oh no they even have little people jobbers oh no little tokyo was only 12 and 88 come to think of it he did always get beat uh oh r Rick Hunter. Rick Hunter was this big. He just looked like, I don't know, dude. He looked like a track coach or something. He was just this big, like, 50-year-old looking guy.

Oh, an 81 for Rick Hunter. Oh, my God. Couldn't quite pull it off. So, anyway, I found those jobbers fascinating. I hope you guys do, too, because that shit is amazing. It's so bad for him. At that point, you're obviously doing it for nothing. You're doing it for a few bucks.

That's what you're doing it for. I made an extra 500 bucks today. And you bring it home to your family. And then you buy some men I got. If you're Mario Mancini. He's like, buy a little extra prosciutto this week. Buy the nice stuff. Get a whole pound.

You know what I mean? We'll eat it while we're watching the thing. Get some with an Italian name, would you? Get some nice one, nice imported. Not the store brand. Later in 85, I see a win. I could have seen that was little, but I still could have seen it if I was there. It was at the Mid-Hudson Civic Center in Poughkeepsie which we've driven by uh it's his august 20th 1985 steve gator wolf defeats mr x

oh it's just a masked generic that's the guy they were gonna unmask right uh no no that was mr destruction oh this is wwf jobber then on long island so they're taking him around the long island steve gator wolf defeats terry gibbs who we mentioned as a jobber so they're taking him around the Long Island. Steve Gator Wolf defeats Terry Gibbs, who we mentioned as a jobber. So they're giving him a run here. In Philly at the Spectrum on the 24th, he beats Terry Gibbs. So that's like every night. He's on the road with them. He's part of the WWF's touring group, and he's winning every night.

Except in Denver here, he loses to Adrian Adonis, who was like a former tag team champ at the time. So he had some clout also in denver that night junkyard dog wins a uh a battle royal here with adrian adonis cowboy bob wharton davey boy smith dynamite dynamite kid george wells iron sheet king kong bundy mad dog vashon missing link nikolai volkov steve lombardi Tony Gurria, and of course, Mr. Gator Wolf. That's a fun show. That's fun stuff. Yeah, I'd like to see that.

That sounds like a good time. Then they go on TV tapings. He beats Barry O, who's like a job or two. He beats Rene Goulet, who used to have some clout. Now he was like an older guy and a road agent. Then he loses to Big John Studd. Then he loses to Brutus Beefcake. And Don Morocco beats him on TV. So now he's a jobber.

So he went from one month winning matches and being built to the next month. Okay, go out and let Don Morocco beat you in two minutes on TV. Fuck it. So that's kind of where he goes from there. He gets beat by Adrian Adonis, Missing Link, King Kong Bundy, Big John Studd. So he's just kind of making the rounds of getting beat. He also beats Ron Shaw, who's the guy that I said was bald and needed a different head. Yeah.

But then he's beaten by Volkov and Iron Sheik. Randy Savage beats him on TV. That's on YouTube, too. The Randy Savage beating him up on TV. Terry Funk beats him on TV. That's on YouTube, too. The Randy Savage beating him up on TV. Terry Funk beats him. Brutus Beefcake. He's getting beat by a real who's who. They're all beating

his ass. Yeah, it looks great. Then they give him a win on TV against Terry Gibbs again, which is weird. Let's see here. Oh, he gets beat by the Hart Foundation. Our old buddy, Jim Neidhart, back at the Mid-Hudson Civic Center again in October. So he gets beat by them.

He's still doing shit wrestling, too, though. Here's March of 85. He's in Heber City, Utah. Yikes, at the high school. Gatorwolf, once again, former BYU football player, former Rocky Mountain champion, one of the stars of the hit movie Revenge of the Ninja. Now it's a hit. Now it's a hit. Now he's a star of a hit movie.

At least they didn't mention Chuck Norris, but still. Fuck, man. Jesus Christ. Does he say anything truthful about that movie ever no not once never nothing truthful at all it's all horseshit that's all it is unbelievable so 1985 total for wwe he has eight wins and 23 losses so they give him a few wins like we said 86 comes around and now he's just kind of at house shows getting beaten by everybody by 86. He's like, ooh, this is a good fucking—man, these battle royals are fun.

They have these battle royals, man. They sound like a good time. Fuck Islanders, Stud Bundy, the Moondogs, Chief J. Strongbow, and Steve Gatorwolf as a tag team. Oh, that's great. As an Indian tag team. Mike Rotundo, S.T. Jones, British Bulldogs, Heart Foundation, Killer Bees. strongbow and steve gator wolf as a tag team as an indian tag team yeah mike rotundo st jones british bulldogs heart foundation killer bees it's like a tag team uh battle royal dream team well not bad at all uh nikolai volkov beating him holy shit oh yeah he teams up for here's a house

show in tucson arizona at the community center where it's chief jay strongbow and steve gator wolf losing to the Islanders. Jim Neidhard beats him, so that's crime and sports on crime and sports violence there. The Anvil, Bob Orton beats him. A lot of people beating him, basically, here. 86, he has four wins and 33 losses, so it gets in major competition. 87 comes around here, and now he's full-blown jobber i'm talking his tag team partners jerry allen who was this guy who had like this like first and last

name this weird curly hair that was like it didn't look like a wrestler should have it he had like this weird like like white jerry curl it was a strange thing like a low perm it was like a wrestler should have it he had like this weird like like white jerry curl it was a strange thing uh like a low perm it was like a tight one though it was really weird yeah like he had like weird fraggle hair it was just very strange so he's getting beat he's tagging with jerry allen like on every one of these house shows getting beat by morocco and orton uh butch reed beats him up in 30 seconds and a tv taping oh boy uh he gets beat by butch reed a whole bunch when he comes in but that's okay still wrestling in park city utah fighting tony tnt here at the high school gym so there's that uh and now it's ten thousand dollars to anybody who can body slam Mr. Destruction.

Money's going up. We got to get more people out. By the way, it used to be $5,000 to slam the 480 pound Mr. Destruction. Remember? Now it's $10,000 to any person who can body slam the 587 pounds. Twice the money, 100 pounds more weight. Wow. That is fucking amazing.

So in 87 in WWE, he has no wins. 0-17 that year for him. So 89 comes around. Now, he is running a lot of these. All the territories are dying at this point. They're all going during the 80s. So the places to work are either little kind of indie shithole places right or wwf or wcw in 89 so not a lot of i mean awa still on espn but it is fucking bad it's dying hard so um anyway they're i mean there's smaller ones too he starts

running shows his own running these little spot shows basically and he gets arrested in october of 1989 for running a show in arizona on an indian reservation and having no insurance no anything no no evidence of financial responsibility is the charge he just ran a show put a ring up and had people fighting it had no fucking any of the things you need to have to run something like that basically and then also uh was cited for that so then he failed to appear in court and he was arrested for for non-appearance for non-appearance and non-financial responsibility of a venue and all that kind of shit i think those people that used to run that UFC fight in the parking lot of the- Yeah, that's not-

I think they were arrested, too, for the same thing. How would they not be? And I think it all came down- That was crazy. When that guy got knocked out and they didn't have a medic on hand. I think that guy died. I think somebody died there. You know what?

Someone needed to die to make that go away. I mean, I feel bad for him or whatever. But Jesus Christ, man, that's enough. So American Wrestling Federation now he's wrestling for, the AWF. And they present Warpath 1990, the name of the card. It's at Coconino High School. In Flagstaff. Yes, it is.

Oh, boy. It is. The American Wrestling Federation title match. Get ready for World War III between the champ, Steve Gatorwolf, versus Skull Crusher is his name. You want to see Skull Crusher, Jimmy? Oh, you bet I do. Here we go. I'll turn this towards you.

What is this? Check him out. Oh, my. At least he looks in shape. He does, but he doesn't look native by any stretch. Oh, God, no, no, no. Well, yeah, you can't have him fight another native. You got to have him fight a non-native so they can make fun of him.

I thought that was the idea of it. No, no, he's on the war path. God. Because he's a native and he's fighting this guy who has no respect for the native culture. That's how it works. this guy who has no respect for the native culture that's how it works also the tag team champs the mercenaries who just look like a couple of guys in paintball outfits with camouflage masks on they literally look like i gotta show you again come over i'm sorry turn it look at these guys looks like they're wearing paintball outfits doesn't it it looks like it looks like he's fighting Slipknot.

I'm going to fuck Slipknot up at Warpath 1990 at the old high school in Flagstaff. That is awesome. That is wild. And it's sponsored by the Coconino High School baseball team. That's great. You're going to rob the funds from the baseball team. It's only $4 to get in, so there's not going to be that many funds there. $4.

So he is back in the WWF also in 1990. They take him in for a little bit to get beat up on TV a whole bunch. And Ted DiBiase beats him up. Then he ends up going to All Japan, which is, All Japan is a great, that's like a big deal. Guys loved going to All Japan. They'd make big money over there. Yeah. Yeah, because in Japan, they'd bring over the American stars, automatic bad guy.

And, you know, Hulk Hogan, this big blonde guy. He was a bad guy over there while he was a good guy over here. He's a heel in Japan. So that's how they would do it. Foreigners would be the heels. But a guy like a Native American type of of thing they don't have that over there so that's a he's a character to them they go oh wow i've seen that in the cowboy movies they don't know what the fuck that is in japan so that's interesting so uh yeah he gets beat by uh goro sur uh surumi god

i'm gonna say that wrong goro surumi giant. He's actually in a match with Giant Baba. These are all... They considered him a star over there. They treat him... He's in matches with stars. Giant Baba, Yoshikai, Yatsu, and the Great Kabuki, who are all big stars. Giant Baba was running the fucking promotion, so he's

the guy. Versus Abdul the Butcher, who's as world famous as there is. Ivan Koloff, who's former fucking, he beat Bruno Sammartino for the fucking belt. I mean, he's a star and Steve Gator Wolf.

He's the third in that. Wow. Who doesn't belong in this match out of those six, but that's how they're, they're treating him over there. That's pretty wild. Giant Baba, Kenta Kobayashi versus Ivan Koloff and Steve Gatorwolf.

He doesn't belong in those four people at all. He doesn't belong taking their robes back to the dressing room. Those are stars, man. Different deal. He's missing so many teeth today. It's so depressing. He's a mess. His forehead is just scar tissue.

A mess. It's a mess. I mean, he used to make it. Yeah. The Dark Side of the Ring? Yeah. Yeah. Brody.

Brody, yeah. And his declarations, I don't know. The words he says, I don't know that he has it all together upstairs, let alone. He's also a huge liar, Abdul. He's a scumbag. Oh, okay. He's known as the biggest scumbag uh and one of the bigger scumbags in wrestling um really yeah he's a thing well a

while ago i'm i don't know how this worked out so i'm not saying this is exactly what happened no one can sue me here but there was allegations that he was had hepatitis and was still fucking hepatitis c and was not telling anybody and still bleeding all over people unbelievable yeah there's a match i want to say god damn it who the fuck was it now ricky steve no uh rick martel i think it was rick martel who you know who he is no he's a french canadian wrestler he's a handsome guy very big star for years and years he was an awa heavyweight champion and he said that he did an independent show so martel is supposed to have a match with abdullah and martel's thing was he told the promoter i don't want him bleeding i'm not i'm not gonna wrestle him if he's bleeding i

already has hepatitis and i'm not gonna fucking get bled on by somebody with hepatitis so i'm not doing it and they said oh no it won't happen and he said they get in the ring and he goes within 30 seconds abdullah's fucking blading himself bleeding all over the place and he's like he just left the ring he said i just left and he's like fuck it nope i'm leaving yeah i'm not walk back to the walk back to the dressing room was like i'm not doing that i told you i'm not doing it but yeah there's a lot of that going on um anyway he does this it's the uh all japan new year giant series 1990 it's it looks like a-day thing that's going on here. Oh, my God.

They have day 8, day 11, day 14, day 20. It's a wrestling festival. It's like a big wrestling festival, yeah. A restiful, if you will. But he does win some titles through here. He wins the Western States Heavyweight title for Arizona. I don't know what promotion that's for, by beating the Zodiac in 1989. He is recognized as the first AWF, which is the Arizona Wrestling Federation, champion in March of 1990.

He wins the Southwest title in March of 1990 as well. He beats again. He must have lost it it got it back again the arizona heavyweight title defeating japan bomber jesus christ wow yeah you can't do that no that's pretty wow world war two far too recent in the 80s not no it's too far away to do that in the 80s they used to have gimmicks like that in the 50s. Nazi gimmicks and Japanese guys, that was an automatic boo. You'd come out with a fucking Iron Cross on and start speaking in a German accent.

Fritz von Erich, that was his whole gimmick. Von Erich's father was, I'm a Nazi. Was this a Japanese guy that came in that was a bomber, or was it just a white dude in a plain coat? They're just going for redneck anger at this point. They got Japan Bomber. Then he loses the title to the Zodiac. And I say that because then he wins the title back by defeating the Iraq Assassin

in 1991. So, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's gonna boo. It's probably some Mexican dude there. Like, you're Middle Eastern. Just say, put a towel on and go out there. Yeah, that's what they wear, right? Sure, get out there.

And then everybody would wear an Exxon shirt or something. Yeah, you know, say, I love oil. And then all the people will hate you. They didn't know what the fuck they were doing. So, 92 here. He's at the Kanab High School. Yeah, in southern Utah. In Utah, absolutely fighting the zodiac and uh um they just use

the same exact he just all the opponents like shit talking to the paper about him is just the thing he tells them to say because this is a different guy saying after i beat him he'll have to go back to the reservation and sell blankets and beads out of his teepee. It's the same exact line years later. They describe him in the paper as a full-blooded Cherokee Indian from Florida, grew up in a sports family. His father played professional baseball. True. And that's actually in the newspaper in his obituary, so I know that's true.

And, well, it might not be because I guess they're not like they're researching. They're not fact-checking obituaries. We heard this, so we're going to write this. Their family said this about him. So his younger brother also wrestled and played baseball at BYU, apparently here. And Steve was quoted as saying, quote, I'm very proud of my Indian heritage and the opportunity I had to play football at the Y. Okay. BYU. As far as Zodiac is concerned, it's going to take all the talent I have to beat him,

but I'm going to do it. I want the American Wrestling Federation championship, and I can't think of a better place than beautiful Kanab, Utah to take the championship. There's like 28 people in that. I was going to say, what? Scenic. there's like 28 people i was gonna say what scenic i know there are many byu fans that live in the area and i'm not going to let them down you know my fake football alma mater you know did he say the why like maybe he said maybe he played at the ymca down at that the why and he said the why and they just took it as brigham young it was was on Brigham Street. You know that one.

Brigham Street there. Yeah, the Y in Brigham. They call it the university because it's where I learned to play. He said Zodiac better bring everything because he's got because with the fans there behind me, it's going to be a long night for him. Also appearing that night, Abdullah Hussein, the Iraq assassin. And then Luis Piccoli, who actually, actually like we said turned out to be something here uh this is at uh yeah the sound room of the school 1993 he still he wins the arizona heavyweight title again in 93 look at you go boy in april uh 94 he's fighting all awf events he's uh he beats the mauler uh tim patterson a whole bunch a 13 man battle royal okay even it out make it sound on purpose yeah 13 sounds like

in safford arizona so really i mean who cares you got 13 guys james you've got so really i mean who cares you got 13 guys james you've got one guy that's just standing there watching six other battles for a minute right yeah he's gotta go around you gotta get rid of one quick toss a guy out right away then and i he he loses the title oh no that was a while back never mind so uh the newspaper wrestling superstars in kanab this Friday. Appearing here, it's at Page High School, and the assistant dean of students, what is this? Oh, okay, yeah. He says,

the main event will be world-famous midget wrestlers. Karate Kid will battle Little Tokyo. The midget wrestlers have wrestled all over the world, entertaining kings and queens and heads of state. Okay? They are crowd pleasers have wrestled all over the world, entertaining kings and queens and heads of state. They are crowd pleasers and in demand all over the world. Also wrestling on the card is a former BYU football player, Steve Gatorwolf, who now

lives with his family in Page, Arizona. Steve works at Page High School as the assistant dean of students. Keep that in mind, by the way, that he worked at a high school. Just keep that in mind. Keep that in mind, please. Is Page on the res? It might be. Okay, just keep that in mind, by the way, that he worked at a high school. Just keep that in mind. Keep that in mind, please. Is Paige on the res? It might be.

Okay, just keep that in mind because there's a lot of kids out there that I'd really like to hear from after this. It's right by the lake. Lake Powell? Is it Powell? I think it's Powell. Yeah, I think you're right. Others appearing are WWF star Virgil. Virgil will be there, Dibiase's guy. The Navajo Kid.

Sheik Abdullah Hussein. The Zodiac. The Starman. And Brick Armstrong. So there's that. This is just a bunch of culture that these hillbillies have no idea about.

So it's shocking to them. That's exactly what it is. Boo him. He's an A-rab. He's different hey different look at him uh the masked zodiac uh defeats the sandman oh boy look at that that's that's fun in that card uh what else 1999 okay wrestling promoter promises to pile drive pioneers fans it says um i like this fucking intro here, 99.

Hulk Hogan won't be there. Neither will Stone Cold Steve Austin. And that's just how Steve Ketcher likes it. Really? The wrestling show Ketcher. Now he's got a name. Now he's just Steve Ketcher because he's promoting. He likes it that way.

He doesn't want all those people spending money and paying to get in. The wrestling show Ketcher will bring to the Hearst Field tonight will be nothing like what the wrestling fans see on cable tv each night doink the clown will take on the navajo warrior doink was doing indies at this point right uh this is before the pioneers take on the sacramento steelheads at 7 p.m it's minor league baseball i think it's baseball from what i found. I could find a Sacramento Steel and it's in June too. So yeah. The two combatants

will demonstrate all the body slams, pile drivers, and drop kicks of the TV pros but none of the crotch chopping, bird flipping,

or trash talking. He says, it'll have all the wrestling action but none of the TV show. It's something the whole family can enjoy. There'll be no dick slapping or people telling you fuck you here this is no this is all clean entertainment he said i shit he doesn't agree with the direction of the business he said but

you've got to remember their 250 to 500 000 contracts are being paid by usa television and ted turner and the other one so you, they're getting that money. That's why they're doing it. He says that this, the American Wrestling Federation, that's the real entertainment is what he says here. He hopes that this is going to go well. He said also that there's going to be some local talent in the next show. And he said, I'm always on the lookout. One day I'd like to start a school here. He's going to start a wrestling school uh 2000 july will oram be next in the ring from provo utah

um this here is kind of funny uh uh he runs a tough guy contest now like a tough man but not the brand tough man right tough guy this is like a hungry guy dinner. Right. They sell at the dollar store. Get munchy guy dinners. Munchy guy. That doesn't sound right. My hungry guy. Wow.

So they have, what is this here? Yeah, it's Steve Gator Wolf. He's got a wrestling school and plans to host a fighting competition in the parking lot of his Orem school. This sounds promising. The 16-man tournament features elements of boxing and wrestling with oversized gloves, submission holds, and offers a $500 reward to the winner. So it's just a fucking shit show of people beating each other.

In Orem, Utah? In Orem, Utah. reward to the winner so it's just a fucking shit show of people yeah beating each other yeah yeah in oram utah in oram utah it could be oram's first public taste of the fighting mania created in part by the provo fight club jesus the hell they doing over there and between provo and club omni gator wolf says he's taking advantage of the publicity i want to thank them and the mayor of provo for creating all the stir and controversy and keeping it in the papers for us so he's like uh the city's division planning manager says that the use of that parking lot's not permitted under city code and he will ask police to shut the event down but uh doing the parking lot gator wolf said that his event is under license provided by the American Championship Martial Arts and adjacent martial arts school. So, yeah, it's just a mess.

He said, we're not here to break any laws. We're here to provide entertainment and have a good time. Yeah. We're not going to break rules. We're going to search through the loopholes. We're here to fight in the parking lot, not to break rules. He also says he's running a wrestling school. He says, who knows?

Anybody stepping through this door could be in the WWF in a year. He says, yeah. He says, our plan is to train a stable of wrestlers who can go out and have a good time. That they can do. I don't care if the town has 2,000 people or 2 million. There are fans who will come watch it.

He said he's interested in young men and women when that with an athletic background he said all the stuff can be used it can be learned showmanship everything like that says don't worry about that he said what they should worry about now is can they land without breaking their neck right away people come in and want to call themselves something like the concrete crusher and i'll say maybe we'll just call you Flower Power for now. Okay. So the fights go on and nobody shows up is what ends up happening. They said less than a dozen people there.

So out of the 12 people that showed up, only half paid. So they made, it's a $60 gate. It's not good. It's just not good. They have a they have he's training a young lady set 22 year old Stephanie Folkman is blonde chick. And she says, I took my mom into the office and said, I have a new life goal.

I'm going to be a professional wrestler. She said she just she's coming off a divorce at 22, looking to change her life around here. She said that this is a step toward the WWF at the time. She wants to be like Chyna and a big star. She said, I never had Barbie dolls. I had Hot Wheels. Okay.

She said that she's all ready to go here. She said it was tough the first two weeks I'd wake up in the morning and I couldn't move But she's since toughened up there And she's ready to go She said Gator came out with an outfit And we cleaned house So she was talking about her first time in the ring

Her and Gator Wolf did something She said I've got to hit the weights and get buff I've got to practice flying higher Taking more extreme jumps off the ropes. My goal is to make it big within two years and be a millionaire by 30. Wow. That's the goal. Well, I looked her up and

nothing going on in wrestling. I did find several Stephanie Folkmans. One is a certified dog trainer at an animal behavior college. No shame in that. That's good. I found a team lead at the University of Utah, travel writer, photographer, blogger, vlogger of all things wild. So there's that. Stephanie Folkman, senior investor relations specialist.

I don't know what's going on there. And then somebody with a Pinterest profile by that name. So a couple people. So there you go. Probably not a millionaire. Is that what you're saying? I'm saying I don't think she made her to the world famous millionaire by 30. I think she missed her target goal a bit.

March 28, 2001, there will be no wrestling in Heber City as there was supposed to be. No, no, no. Wrestling warriors won't be slamming the mat in Heber City this week to raise funds for the Wasatch High School wrestling team. According to the high school principal, Vicki Gettmeier, Navajo Warrior and Steve Gator Wolf, Bruiser Norton and El Fantastic will have to take their mellow drama somewhere else, they say. melodrama somewhere else, they say. Whoa. Gatorwolf met several times with the vice principal and athletic director to discuss bringing their show to the high school, but no contracts were ever signed.

So she says, quote, it's a comedy of errors. They did not go through the proper channels and they did not have a contract with us. They were selling tickets and shit. No contract. And didn't even have it ready. Nope. In order for the high school to be used as an entertainment venue, two administrative approvals must be gained. And I guess he didn't get that. There was In order for the high school to be used as an entertainment venue, two administrative approvals must be gained.

And I guess he didn't get that. There was an advertisement in the paper. The whole deal. Gatmeyer said that Gator Wolf is asking the district to pay for his organization's expenses, which include airline tickets. He also said he could sue the district for money the group would have made. He estimated his losses to be around $17,000. Oh, no. You're out of your fucking mind.

She said, the principal, what will come of that, I don't know. Things happen, and this is bad for them, but they didn't go through the proper channels. I don't know what the fuck to say. I shouldn't say that part, but she said she thinks the show is more vaudeville than wrestling, but she understands it's popular. She says, we have a solid group of kids here, and we don't want them to get a warped view of wrestling. Not wrestling. They'll get a warped view of that.

Jesus Christ. Only three tickets were sold before the ticket sales stopped. Oh, my God. $17,000, he's saying he's going to sue for. Oh, Jesus. April 4th, 2001. St. George, Utah. A 911 call leads police to a very seriously injured man who needed to be life flighted to the hospital with head wounds and body stomping, basically.

That's the best way to put it. A St. George police spokesman said that they got a 911 call from a business on Sunland Drive. The dispatcher heard glass smashing in the background while the guy was calling, begging for help. They sent an officer. When the officer arrived, the victim, Lyman Wynn Sparks, was seriously injured, taken to Dixie Regional Medical Center, and was life flighted to a trauma center in critical condition with a head injury. Police got information that the man who did it, Stephen Ketchner, or Ketcher, our guy

here, the dispatcher put out an attempt to locate him and couldn't find him. An Arizona officer in Colorado City spotted him and followed him and then ended up pulling him over. Meanwhile, St. George officials went to a county attorney to get the paperwork for an arrest warrant and get him here. Apparently, he went to the victim's office and he says he only hit him two or three times. He's a 300-pound guy. This guy works in an office and he can't beat that guy in the head. He's six feet tall, by the way, that guy in the head uh he's six feet tall by the way they say in the paper here in reality not six four and 300 pounds he was then

fled and he then fled and was arrested um this is fucking crazy he's got a head injury this whole thing um he ends up being put away on a hundred thousand000 bail here because he ran and the injuries were serious in it. The judge here says that he refuses to lower bail for him as well because of the seriousness of the injuries. They said normally it's about a $10,000 bail, but he's got a $100,000 bail. Because he's vicious. Yeah. Society, right.

And they said, said quote if you take the heat out of this you have an aggravated assault the court can set conditions to protect the public the alleged victim and ketchner's estranged wife this is his new as ex-wife's new guy that's who this is really yes that's what the whole point was um he said that they said that catcher would be willing to live in oram keep in contact with a friend who's the head of the ute tribal fish and game department i don't know what difference that would make and only returned to washington county for court-approved purposes they said both the victim and catch and catcher's estranged wife are in tremendous fear

it was a savage assault perpetrated on the victim in front of several witnesses. Don't say savage assault. Not about that. Can't do that. I mean, I get it. It fits, but no, no. Yeah, you're describing the assault, not the person. Let's not use that.

Brutal, vicious, horrific, you know, unconscionable. There's a million different words you can use besides savage at that point. Apparently he did this all in the guy's office with multiple other people around. Didn't give a fuck. Broke glass, beat the shit out of him. Didn't care. This was after catcher had sent him a threatening letter postmarked four days before that.

And then he carried out the threats as well. He said the victim was severely injured and they points to threaten the past threats in the past. It's part and parcel of an aggravated assault. I urge the court to try to look past the heat and passion and set bail accordingly to the charge to the charges. and set bail accordingly to the charges. So he was arraigned, and they said a plea,

and he said, I'm absolutely 100% not guilty, which I think is OJ's exact fucking terminology. Don't say that in 2001. Not in 2001. Anyway, that's past the date. The judge said that Ketcher fits the classic pattern of someone who's so fixated that the law, good sense, and ethics are overrun by his emotion. The victims testified of living in terror because of Ketcher. And his ex-wife said she moved and changed her phone number to escape him. She said the abuse she suffered was mostly emotional with him.

But then it's uh taken a step up now catcher's attorney says he doesn't think catcher even went there on april 4th to assault him he said he just went to hang out with him talk to him have a chit chat you know and he said the serious he also tried to downplay the seriousness of the injuries by saying the victims and injuries might be due to the fact that their sizes are so incomparable he's so much smaller than catcher yes that's why he shouldn't have punched him right when you weigh 300 right you don't punch a guy who's 150 pounds sitting at his desk if you're 300 pounds and a you know kind of a professional athlete sort of beat that man about the head and neck no shit uh they wow that's fucking crazy he said uh the law the law can't justify his actions and only allow uh they want probation is what he wants

and uh the judge said that quote you can't control another person i hope you begin to understand and modify your behavior you have got a lot to make up for, is what he says. Ketcher, for his part, Gator Wolf here, he says that, by the way, the victim, by the time this goes to court, the victim and his ex-wife are married now. So he said, I would have done anything for her. This is Ketcher, which is a typical thing to say. I would have done anything for her. I guess it just wasn't enough. My love for my wife was greater than hers.

He's a victim. Isn't that wild? He's a victim. He, uh, anything for, I didn't. Yeah.

He said that he apologized for his actions and wished he could take it all back. He said he just wants to move on and not be in jail for his children. You know, right. The judge is a different thing to say. take it all back. He said he just wants to move on and not be in jail for his children, you know? Right. For the kids. The judge has a different thing to say. The judge says, and I quote,

I don't believe in my legal career I've encountered an individual that so fit the description of a stalker and abuser. By his own words, he attempted to justify his actions as an isolated incident caused by passion you sir yeah may fuck off he is sentenced to what the hell uh he is sentenced to zero to five years in prison i don't know what that means i guess five years is the max but he can get out just

about any time in a second he gave him credit for seven and a half months time served that he's been sitting in jail that he couldn't afford to bail himself out um and he is uh sentenced to pay twenty eight thousand dollars in restitution for medical bills uh this is uh guilty for aggravated assault which is a third degree felony yeah so uh yeah he's pretty fucked here uh but he does more wrestling more wrestling he's got uh he's got girl wrestlers again quick yeah yeah he does not in very long he gets female wrestlers all fired up and going um he's got different ones this time he's got dynamite donna yeah he's got dynamite donna and uh who's a woman's her name? Larson is her last name. She's an SUSC graduate with a degree in elementary education and a minor in PE and dance. She teaches first grade in Salt Lake City and then wrestles on the weekends.

So, yeah, they say she's been a model, a dancer, a high school teacher, and now a wrestler. So there you go. 2001, he's also runningma tough man contests here yeah um this is interesting it's getting big yeah he's just but he's just running them in the on the res just i'm sure with no financial responsibility um there is uh uh there will be two uh three two minute rounds along with open weight classes and stage single elimination. However, each contestant will start off in their weight class, and then the contestant will proceed to an open weight class. GatorWolf says, we have to modify the rules for this contest to make it a lot safer for the contestants,

so there won't be as much of a striking contest, but more of a submission-style match. Oh, good, dry h humping i can't wait to watch that jesus christ but this is all this is a benefit for uh a kid that's sick or something it's a sick kid benefit uh either way though he's running these fucking shows he's a goddamn mess he's he's getting arrested we can't be fucking brutalizing people in their office in front of way he's on the phone with 9-1-1 you're busting windows out what are you crazy it's a scary man uh and and not just like to to the society but like anybody that's involved with him is certainly in danger it's it's goddamn frightening and uh yeah he doesn't know what to do with himself he's

just sitting around and he's he's a mess and uh one thing he's not very good at, and he's never taken a lot of time, doesn't spend a lot of time at home. He's on the road a lot. He says he really wants to settle into his place here. He's going to make it better. He's like, I'm going to put up some turquoise shit over here. You know what? I can't do this on my own. I need help. And he calls in

Dexter Manley, interior designer from New York City. And he says... How is it you've come to arrive here? Seriously. Oh, my God. Look at you. I mean, the feathers and the headdress.

It's very, you know, it's kitschy. It's kitschy. I like it. It's, you know, it's got a thing to it. You have a whole little theme. I like your fringy boot things. Those are really really cool i actually had a pair like that back in college it's never mind it's a long story anyway so like what the fuck are you do you're white trash sir you're i don't care what you are you are from jacksonville and you're white trash that's the way it works i'm sorry i'm very sorry vince didn't even want to come in he's in the van he said i'm

done with that guy i don't even want to be he said He's in the van. He said, I'm done with that guy. I don't even want to. He said, I don't care if he's got overalls. Tell him to keep his shirt on. Not interested. That's how bad you fucked up. You're a mess. And you're white trash.

And I'm not even fixing this place up. It's all turquoise. Goodbye. See you later. Poof. And in a poof of boas and feathers, he's gone. And Steve is very, very confused. And he actually said, that's a great character.

I'm going to use that. I'm going to run with that. I'm going to run with that. 2003, he finishes a two-night weird tournament thing. It's very strange. It's on an Indian reservation with a tough man sort of contest with a thousand dollar prize. It's weird. It's very strange.

The rules aren't boxing. They're one minute rounds with headgear and 18 ounce gloves. And then if there's a second round needed, it's under wrestling rules. They just changed the entire match at that point. And we got to rig this if it doesn't work out the way we want it. Wow. They just changed the entire match at that point. We got to rig this if it doesn't work out the way we want it. Wow. Then you just rassle.

Then you just grapple for a while. 2006, he has a daughter named Emily. I don't know who he has it with. It's not his ex-wife. I know that. A-M-E-L-I-E? E-M-I-L-I-E. Emily. that's emily emily emily i guess it would be emily just weird spelling of it oddest way to spell it ever um well it would be like if emily spelled her name like you that would be what it would be emily so uh april 2006 their son logan

by the way there was in the newspaper that he did a mission to New Jersey. Logan, he completed his mission. Logan becomes a fighter as well. Logan has one MMA fight, one, where he wins, actually, gets a submission in 2 minutes and 36 seconds in the first round, and then doesn't fight MMA anymore. He did it but he won yeah he does fight some other shit though he does uh logan catcher utah international fighting and boxing league match here fight night four um he's known as logan the man killer catcher okay man killer um yeah he fights a bunch of these international fighting and boxing league ifbl things and he becomes the ifbl light heavyweight champion at the time so uh good for him he actually does that uh 2007 steve's running on more shit here um to benefit dalton

hackling the rage in the cage gladiators this is one of those at the old high school um they had the first night for that promotion worked well second night canceled yeah they just canceled um according steve owner uh gator were uh gator wolf called them um or they got a call from the Utah State Athletic Commission saying that what Gator Wolf was doing was illegal. The Rage in the Cage was actually unarmed combat, which is defined as striking with intent to harm, and

that has to be zoned a certain way. You can't just have people beat each other half to death in your parking lot. You just can't do that. They said they have to do Gator Wolf, though. He says that the guy didn't get it. He said that the guy, quote, sees the cage set up and and meanly thinks it's a full bore cage fight, not realizing that it was actually professional wrestling, a professional wrestling ring.

So he says they simply took the ropes down and put the cage up to keep the contestants from falling out of the ring you know so it's not the same cage they use in ufc and he said it's a great fundraiser he was very upset that they're canceling it 2011 his daughter dies at age five that is horrific emily dies at age five that's horrible it's the only time i feel bad for this asshole in the entire episode. That's crazy. Is that? Yeah, it really fucking sucks.

Did they say how? Did not say how. Do we really know? Jesus. I don't know. But they end up doing a fundraiser for it on 5115 North 27th Avenue in Phoenix. There's a fundraiser for it. 27th Avenue in Camelback? That's not good.

That's a deep west side. That area. Roll them up, lock them down. It's dangerously intense wrestling and the Arizona pro wrestling community are hosting the Emily Ketcher Memorial Fun Show in Phoenix.

Tickets are $5. There's a lot of people there. Not a lot of people there's not a lot of not a lot of funds to be raised in that neighborhood no that's the thing here not a lot there they said we decided to do a show for steve gator wolf who lost his five-year-old daughter last week because we are in we are a community a brotherhood in wrestling and then uh uh yeah he's saying that we're no more backstabbing each other. Let's be good to each other and do all that shit. So,

um, this is all this. That's very nice here. They said, uh, uh, what is this? Um,

they hope working together for the good of wrestling and the good of all those involved. It's that simple. So Steve has nice people looking good. 2015. Okay. Uh, the daughter of his former girlfriend oh boy okay um who when they were together was 15 years old 14 and 15 came forward and says she was sexually involved with catcher over a 10 month period ending in february 2014 no you weren't were raped. No, you were molested continually is what that, yeah. You were not in it.

You were systematically raped, dear. At this point, he is an over-the-road trucker. Oh, God, dear, fuck. And when she comes forward, he abandons his semi on the road and takes off on the run. He doesn't look guilty at all. No, just leave a big rig on the side of the highway. Leave Best Buy's load sitting there. That's it.

He takes off in what they believe, by the way, keep in mind in 2015 or 2014, they believe he has a 1995 Ford Aerostar with Colorado plates. Wow. Not great. So they think that he is on the road. He drives normally from Colorado to Ohio, a certain route. So they don't know where the fuck he is. He could be anywhere.

The girl told an investigator that she waited to report her allegations because Gator Wolf had threatened to kill himself and said that he, quote, wouldn't go back to jail. So it's fucking disgusting. The case lists seven counts of sexual assault on a child by a person in a position of trust. In addition to seven counts of sexual assault, he's accused of seven specific sexual acts. That's not seven times. That's seven specific acts that were repeated over and over again. That's not seven times. That's seven specific acts that were repeated over and over again with a 15 year old girl over a six to eight month period ending in February. The girl disclosed the incidents to her boyfriend and he told his parents.

And then that went from there as an investigation investigation went. She said she hadn't said anything because she was afraid he would kill himself. This is disgusting. The affidavit describes multiple alleged incidents of sexual intercourse, oral sex, or fondling between Ketcher and the girl. He's in his fucking late mid 50s right now. That's just he's 57 years old when this is happening. She is a fucking sophomore. That is disgusting.

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. She said, god jesus christ could this be a crime in sports low we have hit could i does that sound fucking like metal on rock right now rock fucking bottom she said there were many times where he quote paid her 20 to let him quote mess around with my breasts that's a new low everybody new low everyone new low mess oh dear lord oh my god um she said what she did was because she said she did what she did because he was an ex pro wrestler and he was big she said quote she did not describe him threatening her if she did not comply but described him as very manipulative she said he would not stop asking and would bribe with money and stuff yeah because that's called the prize oh Oh, God. Jesus Christ. Just trying to fuck this girl. Oh, my God.

So he's won. What a weird thing. And you know, like... Disgusting. Then he goes and tugs to that. That's fucking creepy. That's what I mean. I got to feel up a sophomore.

I'm grossed out. Oh, boy. So he takes off. He's on the road somewhere in a 95 Ford Arrow Star. He's seen in a casino at one point in florida there's a picture of him in there he's wanted um and he tried to he was like telling her like telling her sob stories about like he wanted everyone to feel bad for him yeah i don't feel the slightest bit bad yeah that's exactly right i don't feel the slightest bit dis. Yeah, that's exactly right. I don't feel the slightest bit bad for him.

It really is. But I do feel bad for a whole other group of people. Who's that? I'll tell you that much. That is Stephen Ketcher, warehouse associate at Carpentry Inc. in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He's got rough enough.

Stephen Ketcher, food server at Top That Pizza. He works at a bad pizza place, too. And finally, Stephen Ketcher, Department of Defense secret clearance, more than nine years experience with Department of Defense networks in 9-4-E and 3-5-T capacities. They made him sign paperwork, James, that said this is not me. For Lockheed Martin. Yeah, this is a defense contractor. They absolutely found our Steve Ketcher and were like, is this you? Yeah.

This one's different. I am a combat vet with more than nine years of experience troubleshooting DOD classified and unclassified networks in stateside, international, and tactical environments. classified networks in stateside, international, and tactical environments. While my MOS was 9-4-E, I also functioned in the 3-5-T military intelligence systems maintainer integrator capacity in my assignments with the U.S. Army. Not our guy. The only time I've touched a 14- or 15-year-old was when I was 14 or 15. No shit. So he ends up turning himself in in florida gator wolf wow uh he walks into a clay

county sheriff's office and says i hear there's a warrant out for me you hear motherfucker you abandon a big rig you knew i've touched a kid yeah he's contacted by when he was contacted by an investigator he an investigator got a hold of him on the phone first and that's then he wouldn't tell him where he was. Ketcher said he was dumbfounded by the allegations and wanted to talk to his lawyer. That's why he didn't turn himself in, because he wanted to talk to his lawyer. This guy said, I explained I was attempting to get his side of the story because all I had right now is her side of the story. And he said at this time, no statement is likely from him and that was that so he is um they it goes to court and there's a they show a pattern of sexual abuse i mean it's

he doesn't get more of a pattern than we just described um his first appearance in court he ended the whole thing after the guy, you know, put him in jail with no bail. It's a Judge Collins, and he says to him, quote, I'm proud of you, Judge. He's proud of him because they went to elementary school together. So Gator Wolf was- See, you made something of yourself, and I didn't, so- See, you're sentencing guys like me to go sit in the fucking pokey. Perfect. It's a nice robe.

How do you like my stripes? Wow. So there's a trial. Here comes the trial. All the stuff comes out. The judge didn't say something smart-ass like, wish I could say the same for you or something like that? Yeah, wish I could say the same for you.

Or Miss Perkins would be really, really fucking ashamed of you right now if she knew. Our third grade teacher. So the trial comes around. Yeah, everybody testifies. Everything's going on. He doesn't even Yeah, it's she. Everybody testifies. Everything's going on. He doesn't even plea, James. No, he does not.

Please. Going forward with it. And the first trial comes back a mistrial. Wow. Hung fucking jury. Deadlocked jury, which is very weird. I guess they went with lack of evidence. They want physical. They want DNA. I guess they went with lack of evidence. They want physical, like they want DNA.

I guess so. It's a 14-count complaint, like we said. It's fucking insane. I don't know. He's still held in jail, though, because he doesn't have bail money because they want to retry him, obviously. So they retry him.

This time, though, the jury needs, it's a 10 man two woman jury they start deliberations at 12 30 and then at three they got a jury they have a verdict here and um yeah they find him guilty yeah of all sorts of sexual assault the girl testified to as many as 60 encounters with him. 60. 60. That's insane. She said she had forgiven him, though, since then, you know, like religiously. And the girl's mother, though, called him a selfish monster. Yeah.

She said, you always felt you were the victim from your failed wrestling career to your prison time. She said, but you didn't break us. They played a profane voicemail message for the court and where Gator Wolf is heard threatening the 15 year old and her mother with physical fucking violence after the sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement. Once they reported, he called up saying, you better fucking say you made that up or I'm going to kill you. Basically, this is crazy uh apparently there they got the letter and uh yeah it's played in court also the prosecutor accuses catcher of flipping off giving the finger to the victim and her mother during their testimony during the trial shit he was giving

him the finger when they would look at him this isn't a promo man there's no this is calm down getting booed here is bad you want to ingratiate yourself with the jury giving the finger to a 15 year old fucking sexual abuse victim probably isn't your best bet i'm just gonna say uh yeah uh the he takes the uh rubenstein who's the prosecutor said the defendant takes every opportunity to manipulate and intimidate the victims in this case the public defenders said that the girls could disclosures were fabricated and retribution after the girl's mother ended a relationship with him holy hell man so she ended it with him why would they want

to get back at him? Right? No, that's not how that works. If he broke up with her, that would be an argument, but it's not. So a catcher was living with the girl and her family acting as basically a

stepfather. According to testimony, the worst stepfather ever, the public defender for him highlighted the testimony from the girl and said that this is wild uh and kept stressing that there's no other witnesses 60 times no witnesses he said quote with that kind of frequency you would expect someone else would notice you he's too good at molesting and the yeah thing about being in the same house as your victim. Like you can. Yes.

There are things you can do that. Disgusting. What the fuck are you talking about? Then in the closing, this lawyer told the jury that the case hinged on the girl's credibility. And also he pointed out that the girl admitted, admitted, by the way, the word is disgusting, during testimony that she even agreed to participate in certain sexual acts with him that's the thing about a 15 year old you cannot yes you can't agree talking about now the prosecutor said got up after that and went exactly

that's why it bolsters her credibility because she admitted to it he said if someone's going to make up a story they're not going to put themselves at fault for what happened. She's sitting here thinking it's her fault telling everyone it's her fault when it's obviously not. He's an adult. She said, does that sound like someone trying to get someone else in trouble? No, her mom was the one that

went to the cops. Thank God. So God, she has all the therapy in the world right now. It's only six years later, James. This is it's fucking horrible. Yeah, she's barely an adult. So he maintaining his innocence going into sentencing, which is never good for your sentencing. He made a heated rambling speech that lasted more than 10 minutes. Pissed off.

Oh, not good. Not good. not good. At one point, he was talking, yelling about the prosecutor, talking and pointing at him, and he said, quote, Mr. Rubenstein, look at me. The prosecutor who just ignored him. He just ignored him. He didn't have to acknowledge him or respond to anything. He accused the prosecutor of improperly raising the subject of his five-year-old dead five-year-old daughter during the arguments to the jury um i don't know he said that uh yeah he went

off on this whole fucking thing just yelling about everybody they're pieces of shit he claimed he was wrongfully convicted and uh it's all bullshit and he doesn't believe it. And it's how could they fucking possibly do him like this? Now's the time for these words, mister. No, not at all. The judge, he has his own statement for him. He says, you, sir, may fuck off 16 years to life. Oh, boy. Dicks, motherfucker.

Have a good life part is brutal. Absolutely. They said that they don't. There's no guarantee he's going to get out after 16 years. He has to serve 16 years and complete a sex offender specific treatment program before being deemed eligible for parole. His public defender says that he will appeal. He says Steve faces things forward. Steve moves forward.

He said so. He's not going to he's not gonna he's not gonna worry about it now in prison he like I said did go to prison the earliest estimated parole eligibility date was September 2029 yeah with his time served that he had they're not terrific sentenced to all this different shit but good news for him he doesn't have to spend that much time in prison because in 2017 he drops dead while in federal custody so fuck off gator wolf you molested cocksucker that's the shortest sentence for child molestation i've ever heard of that's there you go dead as a fucking doornail problem solved there you go three years

he does two in prison and drops dead not three yeah with the with the waiting for time served yeah yeah that's there you go uh i mean if there's any closure for that girl i hope she's got it based on dying in prison because that's i mean that's the that's got to be the worst way to die right at least in federal prison yeah at least you know he's not going to get out and come fucking knocking on your window or some shit being all creepy so anyway he's dead fuck him that's the story dead steve gator wolf if there's any grave that is in need of being danced on that's the one you can do a war dance i suggest chief jay strongbow style yeah that one do that dance i just love it though you we never get that quick of retribution he molested this kid oh what a cocksucker then he

died yay we never get that right a fucking way that's great that's why i wanted to do this story just for that i think it's wonderful i hope they did him and just threw him in the trash just throw me throw me in the trash just throw them out just toss them out i don't know put them in the alley they'll pick them up i think wow put them out put them out on bulk trash day put them out on that old love seat that couple across the street are throwing out. They'll look comfortable, and then they'll pick him up. So anyway, that's the show.

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