Crime in Sports - #290 - God Is Naked, Too - The Bewilderingness of David Vaughn Jr

Episode Date: February 8, 2022

This week, we follow a multigenerational story of disaster. A 1970s basketball player, who did things like walk around, in the middle of the street, wearing ONLY a t-shirt, and taking cops on a 7 mile long chase, ending in craziness & gunplay. He then passes on the family legacy to his self named son, who plays with Shaq & Michael Jordan, before descending into arrests & homelessness, and trying to start a one man moving company. There is enough craziness for many generations in this one! Decide that pants are optional, in public, pass your legacy on to your son, then watch him match your screw ups with David Vaughn Jr & III!!! Check us out, every Tuesday! !We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurder See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Jimmy, a lot of show before us here. Let's go. Let us start. This is a basketball player. We're getting into basketball again this week, and this is a fun one because we get to talk about the old ABA. Oh,

and then we even get to talk about nineties basketball as well. Cause we're going to talk about his son. So it's all fun, crazy stuff. We're going to talk about 90s basketball as well because we're going to talk about his son. So it's all fun, crazy stuff. We're going to talk about David Vaughn Jr. Oh, is that right? Oh, he's a junior. Oh, yeah.

He's the poster junior, you could call him. He's really a junior's junior. He really is. I believe. Wait, never mind. No, I was thinking of Greg Vaughn. Greg Vaughn lived in Arizona for a while. I don't know.

Did Dave pitch? No, Dave's a basketball player. He's 6'11". No, nothing like Greg Vaughn whatsoever. Nothing like basketball at all. No, Vaughn's just a common last name. That's all it is. All right. He's born June 4, 1952, and he's a Tennessee guy kind of through and through here.

and uh he's a tennessee guy kind of through and through here his parents are he grows up in a very structured household his father's the reverend david vaughn and yeah he he's a preacher at a small church outside nashville tennessee so also this is some some brimstone shit happening here. But he's also really progressive as well, which is weird. Like I found an article from 1967 about his dad was marrying this couple. And this was against a state law. The state there was in in the back then. I think this was in Virginia. Yeah, it was Virginia. They had because that's where he married somebody.

So they had a black people and white people still couldn't get married in 1967 legally. So he was marrying a black. He was doing an interracial marriage anyway. Mixed marriage. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't give a shit. And yeah, they got a license after the state attorney's general office handed down an opinion that the U.S.

Supreme Court's ruling, which struck down Virginia's law, also applied to Tennessee. So that's what it was. So, yeah, they were the second interracial couple to apply for a Tennessee license. So he married the first. The second ones. The second, but the first ones, they hadn't done it yet. They hadn't mailed it back in for recording yet. So he technically married the first interracial couple legally in Tennessee, even though it was sort of not legal at the time.

But then they it was legal. Yeah, it was cloudy. So, yeah, his dad's his dad's a decent guy and very strict. It's I mean, you know, he's like a Baptist minister. So you're going to get he's not going to be like, hey, party. No, invite girls over. It's fun. You guys want like wine coolers or something?

I'll hook you up. So, you know. At least Zima. Something. He grows up, I believe, with his stepmother, though. I don't know what happened to his mother, but he has a stepmother who's around from the time he's young all the way through. Married to his dad still. Married to his dad forever married to his dad for yeah forever till you know till the end of time so yeah his dad is a major influence kind of in his

uh in his life when he's in high school but then his presence wanes because he wants to do his own thing young junior fun junior wants to have some fun he's a beast on the court um really he also grows from 6 8 to 6 11 between his junior and senior year in high school so oh god yeah he he went for the summer seven feet tall in high school he went for the summer and came back and the coach was like holy shit look at you you're beautiful my god look at you. You're beautiful. My God, look at those legs. You were beautiful before. Yeah, now you're 6'11". This is like, my goodness, could it be any better? What a gift.

Are you going to sprout a money tree out of the top of your head too? This is great. So he was at Nashville's Cameron High School, and his coach said that he came back to his senior year three inches taller and an even better player. He led his team to two straight state championships. Son of a bitch. And 55 consecutive wins.

Oh, in a row? You couldn't beat him. Wow. You just couldn't beat the team. He was 6'11 and just dominating everybody, and there was no beating him whatsoever. 55 in a row. Yeah. He was the top-ranked basketball prospect in the state of Tennessee.

He was number one. His team was the number one team. He was Tennessee's Mr. Basketball of 70-71. I mean, he's a monster in high school. Yeah. I mean, he's just beloved. a monster in a hero school yeah i mean he's just beloved and uh yeah he he's in the tournament they had a crowd for one of the games of 11 132 people for a basket a high school basketball tournament high school high school high school the aba couldn't draw that back then yeah like professionals

like you could go see julius irving and you couldn't get 11000 people. More elbow room. Yeah. You could go see artist Gilmore and there's no it's literally that's crazy. Spread your legs. Yeah. It's fucking nuts. So anyway yeah they did that. It was only the second team to get back-to-back titles since the Second World War again. So just really, really good. And he's the tournament's most valuable player. Sure. He injured his ankle in the second to last game. So in the final game, he played with a really fucked-up ankle and only scored eight points. But they didn't say how many rebounds, but they said he made up for it with an overpowering presence on the on the rebounds so yeah that's that got them all he got them all pretty much yeah he's 6 11 he doesn't need an

ankle he just taps the ball to himself give me that so he uh for the tournament he played he had 57 minutes and uh had 51 rebounds i'm sorry 84 points and 51 rebounds in the whole tournament. But there was one game where he only played four minutes because of his ankle. So he hurt his ankle in the one game, and then the next game he played on it anyway, and they won. So he's been doing—he's amazing, essentially, is what it is here. He's great. So two straight state championships, two-time tournament MVP. He's the whole state's leading scorer.

He had, okay, in his senior year, he averaged 22.9 points and 20 rebounds a game. A game. And almost seven blocked shots, too, as well. Oh, boy. He almost averaged a triple-double with unbelievable stats. Yeah, and that kind of presence. If you've got a 6'11 guy who's blocking almost seven shots, the only reason he's not blocking more is because they're not coming at him.

Right. It's on the other side of the court. It's all mid-range jumpers. They're not attacking the paint. That's stupid. just gonna knock your shit back you know so unbelievable oh jesus james he's he's recruited everywhere obviously he's just recruited all over the place memphis state cincinnati were two that he likes because they were close by his stepmother virginia says that the publicity hurt him. He said the recruiting was great for him.

It would help his confidence and all that sort of thing. So the college is saying they liked him. It was an okay thing. But once the publicity started and newspapers started talking to him, she said. Yeah, but that's the machine. You can't. If the college likes you, the reporters ask, who do you like? Which do you want

lady the media will fuck up a kid who's not ready for that too though and it's not i mean they need the story that's how that's how the sport works and without that's right all the players who hate the media yeah yeah all the players who hate the media like i get it they're annoying and they're looking for stories to make you look bad and all that but if there weren't sitting there you would be getting paid 32 grand a year for what you're doing. Not 8 million because that's how you get people to come there is you have people. It's free publicity for you. Exactly.

There's a whole section in newspapers and in every internet site and in every – it's all – that's sports. Today, the fantasy sports needs that chat because we have to know what the what the environment's like in the in the fucking locker room on the field, off the field. All that shit is so important to fantasy football. Oh, my God. Even if it's not because they don't really know what they're doing, they think it is. And it's one of those things like it's a factor. I need to know the information. Meanwhile, you don't know if this guy's fucking, you know, got in a fight with his girlfriend last night

and is just having a bad day or you have no idea. It's all gambling. Yeah. You don't know if he woke up with a migraine. You have no clue. Like, that's not going to be on the report. So, I don't know. So, his stepmother said, quote,

I think Dave Jr. was kind of messed up before he ever went into college. He got to the point where your head gets hard and you don't listen. He got to that point before he even got out of high school. So, yeah, once the publicity started, he just was like, I don't need people's advice. I know what I'm doing now. Stubborn and just does it all on his own, does it his own way. That's right.

And so he gets his college of, you know, he has to choose a college. Yeah. That's what you do. So he gets his college of, he has to choose a college. Yeah. That's what you do. So he announces in January of 1971 that he is going to sign with Memphis State University. Really?

That's where he's picking. Partially because, this is an interesting thing, he has a fiancee at this point named Gail Finch. How pregnant is Gail? At this point, gail finch and pregnant is gail uh well not at this point not at all which is yeah most of our athletes who are engaged in high school we say they already have two kids with this person but this this is 1971 in a small you know what i mean like coming from a reverend family and all that this was like you you doing it a little more uh biblically you get engaged to your high school sweetheart is type i think how it still worked for another few years here. So the the 60s didn't hit the deep south till about 1997.

So you got to understand, I know this Tennessee is not the deep south, but if it's the deep south, if your father's a Baptist preacher, then it is the deep south at that point. There are a lot of people in Tennessee that would say they are the Deep South. Vermont is Tennessee. Vermont is the Deep South if your father's a Baptist preacher. Like anything could be the Deep South if your father's a Baptist preacher. So, yeah, he decides he's going to go there partially because, like I said, Gail Finch is his fiance. Her brother is Larry Fin finch who's the coach

at memphis state so his brother-in-law and he played too he played at memphis state he played a little bit in the nba no no did he make it to the nba i can't remember now or maybe in the aba for a minute but he was a player and now he's a coach and he's a young coach too so he wants to go play for his brother-in-law. That'd be fun. He likes his brother-in-law. Gets along. Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, if you have an in. He said, quote, I plan to sign with Memphis State. And he said, I just don't want to feel like I was rushed into anything. I want to have plenty of time to make sure I've made the right decision. So he says this after he commits to it, though. So it's weird. He even got introduced to at a Memphis State home game to the crowd. They brought him out on the court.

This is our next year's big star, David Vaughn. Here he is. And they all, yay. I mean, made a big fucking deal. The Reverend Vaughn managed the whole recruitment though he was like you had to go through him that was part of it so it was any of these party schools or anything we're getting right away whittled out you know asu's in the bottom of the pile for the rev you know not florida state don't think so going away so uh yeah he did all of that uh he said we feel

feel very comfortable that he's going to play for his uncle it's not his uncle it's his fucking brother-in-law that's a complete so weird it's not too far away so we can't just hop in a car and go see him once in a while so they're happy that they can go see him over there so he goes there and there's an article here from nashville all about it and it says the signing of david vaughn to play at memphis state could put the team on a road to a national championship i mean it's right away larry finch here uh he says oh i'm sorry oh that's right no at this point he knew i'm sorry the coach here this was his uncle, this coach. Then this guy leaves and his brother-in-law becomes the coach eventually.

That's how it works. Okay. One way or another, he's got family there either way. Yeah. And his future brother-in-law is playing on the team at this point. So he's going to go play with him. So he's saying with Larry Finch and this other guy, Ronnie Robinson, he says the addition of David, this could be a move toward the national championship. We feel David is definitely one of the top players in the country.

So he's 6'11 and 230. He's a big guy. It's amazing. Crushing shit. On hand for the signing ceremony to go to Memphis State was the governor governor winfield dunn uh six state representatives two state senators and vaughn's whole family his nephews aunts uncles parents friends the whole deal it's a big party um it's pretty fucking hilarious they're making this a political event oh yeah this is yeah absolutely we kept him in tennessee that's a big deal you know we kept a state recruit in tennessee look at us

okay so his second choice he said would have been oral roberts which is sound i how it's a there's no way to say that without it sounding disgusting disgusting yeah it's absolutely the worst thing and it's a super religious school as well, so it doesn't sound quite as fun. That's in Tulsa also. So, I mean, just all of that sounds not fun at all. Except for the oral part, but you're not getting any. That's the difference. Oral in Tulsa?

Yeah. That's a tough guess. At a religious college? I don't know. Good luck. He said, I wanted to leave home, but not Tennessee. I always figured I'd go somewhere like Memphis or Chattanooga, he says. So, State Senator Curtis Person went further, predicting a national championship within the next three years.

The governor presented Vaughn with a set of cufflinks and a tie clasp bearing the seal of the state of Tennessee. Like, he just fucking, he's a war hero. And personal. Here's for those days you get dressed up. It gets worse. And Person awarded him a Sergeant of Arms certificate, one of the highest honors that can be bestowed by the state Senate. You're 17 and play basketball.

Good. Here's 6, 11 and 17. 17 here here you go nothing it's done nothing but win high school basketball games seems important person in tennessee a bit this is what i mean like this seems like then you wonder why kids get big heads it's like the governor gave him a tie clasp like what are we talking here? How dare he think he can do whatever he wants? Your highest elected officials told him he can. You're the best here. Let me give you an award for existing. What have I done? You're here.

That's what you've done. You are. You've grown to be this wonderful height. Jesus. wonderful height jesus my favorite thing that's ever been said the best economical decision you can make is be really tall it's amazing super super super tall it's great it's you can if you're 6 11 just be really good looking and if you can be really good looking and 611 i got news for you you can retire now that would probably be like i can't even get that point oh oh oh oh oh one percent of the population is good looking and 6'11 probably yeah because i know like in the united states seven of them yeah in the united states i got

mad because i'm six foot four and i can't fit anywhere so i got mad one day and i was like why the fuck is nothing nothing meant for me every chair i sit in doesn't work it's too fucking small your legs stick out it hurts your thigh it's not comfortable however everything's set up for comfort they're like well fuck you if you're tall and i'm like why is that then i looked it up it's six foot four and over is one percent of the population in the united states i'm like yeah they're not making shit for us they're like well fuck you cram in asshole like if we made only things for you we would lose so much money oh but you'd be so comfortable everything would be nice and cushy and big and you could curl up on all the chairs you'd be great so oh me forget it oh i look like a toddler in his in his

grandfather's chair everywhere i went he'd be so comfortable god of airplanes built shit just for you like targeted you that'd be amazing but like flying would be the greatest thing on earth 6 11 think about how little of though that one percent is over 6 10 and then you add good looking into it because i mean most people aren't good looking let's be realistic like 80 of people are monsters or frog people you know and then you know i'll bet 20 percent is is that's high very generous number of decent looking people james i think so on that's on seinfeld he said i think it was 97 is what he said. 97% undateable. Undateable. It's true.

And Elaine was like, I think it's like 25, 30%. He's like, have you been to the DMV lately? No, look around. People are hideous. You're out of your mind. It's true. It's true. Oh, my God, James. If planes built everything for you, I would dread the day the pilot comes on and says shit like,

we'll be there in about four hours and 20 minutes rather than the usual five hours. You're like, ah. Take it around one more again, sir. One more time. I'm comfortable, goddammit. I like this seat. I don't want to get up. No, here's a weird thing.

I don't know if, okay, this might have been part of this whole deal. I don't know what's up here. During the ceremony, they have in the newspaper, it says beaming during the proceedings was Vaughn's fiance. And this is a totally different girl. Oh, this is a different girl than Gail Finch, who he's definitely with at this point so i don't know if he had another girl there and the paper blew up a spot or if they fucking got her name wrong if they just like got mixed up in the notes and that's the name of somebody they took a quote from and i don't know what the fuck happened but they say it's fiance's denise dowell maybe he dropped her and got gail real fast i don't know what happened

they asked her if she would receive a scholarship too and she said no but i wish i did mrs finch is gonna get real mad if i do yeah so he does all that but then he says like i just don't want to rush it i mean i want to go there but i don't want to rush it so oral roberts sees this as an opening to try to suck some talent out of another college. Get over there, Oral. He's going to try to, yeah, he's going to try to. He wants success all over his face is what he wants, really. He wants the basketball success to just sprinkle down, possibly from multiple places, and rain upon his face. That's what he's looking for.

That's gross. He's trying to gargle success. It's gargle success. He wants to take it and really take a big bite and get it in the back of his throat. That's what he's trying to do with basketball success. want to feel what it's like to to choke on championships i want so many that it's it's literally chokes me that's what i'm looking for i want to gag on it that's what i want to do that's that's what i'm like i like that that's what i'm trying to get i'm gonna take that towel i'm gonna spit on it and polish it up nice and get it raw smack my cheeks with championships

i can't say it with a straight face anymore so oral roberts though literally sees this as a non-sexual opening and oral roberts himself visits david vaughn yeah and uh he he pleads with the vaughns and who knows what else he did you know i'm talking about uh on his knees he got down on his knees and all he got down on his knees and pled and he convinced him in a way only he can said please send your son to tulsa my god he said please you're a reverend you know this send him to this place you're going to be so much happier with it. And David Vaughn Sr. was like, I mean, you know, he's got a point. This sounds like a great deal. He Oral Roberts, I guess the guy did this all the time.

He would actively recruit people. He went down and preached at Reverend Vaughn's church to draw them a crowd and some money and all that shit, which should probably be an NCAA violation. You know what I mean? There was like people from the university there yay oh here oh put the put something in the collection tin and they're putting hundreds in there probably this is uh whatever it does feel a little slimy but then you're then you're mixing like religion into it and then it's like then it's okay because it's i mean what the fuck who and i don't think the ncaa went we're not gonna mess with it there's that there's preaching

involved we don't want to talk about it. Stirring up some controversy down there in the South. Let's not do that. They said people came from miles and miles around to hear him at the little church there. And the ORU, the Oral Roberts University coaching staff, served as ushers, too. Of course they did. So it's basically a fundraiser event for the church is what they did, which is nice. But, I mean mean i don't think you're allowed to do that technically in the bylaws of the ncaa so uh a former assistant

coach and chief recruiter duane moose row says he remembered counting the offering on the trunks of cars parked outside and they gave the money to reverend vaughn's church so yeah they were they had it all laid out because there's so much money because so many people came and they said that looks so much cooler to the reverend when you got so much money we need a car hood to count we just got to lay it out that's like i remember one time at a party when i was a teenager i was selling weed and i had so much fucking weed and i had all these bags and i put it all on my friend's hood and i was like all right i got all this and i said form an order it was like form an orderly queue like the in-betweeners and i had people line up and they just came up like it was a dispensary and i had it all laid out on a fucking card but that's how you did it so um in this article it says quote illegal no

the ncaa has never been one to interfere in romance or religion. There it is. Yeah, they don't want to fuck with it. There it is. They went on to say this is the coach of Oral Roberts. That, quote, that wasn't necessarily done to recruit the kid, but it certainly didn't hurt. President Roberts and I were in his home one night, and Reverend Vaughn said it would be nice if he could speak at his church. So, yeah, so the coach, the head coach, he said that so casually.

Oral Roberts and I, you know, me and the head coach and the president of the university and we were over their house one night like we always are. Yeah. That's nice. So. The namesake of the university. So now he's saying like, oh, I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

So the press asked Vaughn if he's ruled out Oral Roberts. And he says, quote, I better not comment on that. So now Memphis State's like, whoa, the governor gave you a tie clasp. What are we talking about? You're the sergeant of arms. We can't have you go somewhere else. Have a look at those wrists and those goddamn cufflinks, son. Yeah, look at that.

The only reason your sleeves are together is oral fucking roberts mister is the mayor is the goddamn governor the governor yeah yeah jesus christ yeah that's just a state of tennessee so um he said quote uh this is the head coach of oral oral roberts we are vitally interested in this boy that That does not sound good. No, it does not. That sounds really bad. Don't isolate that, please, anyone. We are vitally interested in this boy. And think we've got a good chance to get him. And he said, but we have left him alone.

These boys have a tournament to win, and we're not even going to think about recruiting him until it's over. That was when they were playing the tournament in high school here. about recruiting him until it's over. That was when they were playing the tournament in high school here. So then they said that he came for a visit to the Tulsa campus of Oral Roberts, and he said, we think that he was impressed with the program. So they think they can possibly land him.

Then he says, David Vaughn comes out, and he says, I think I want to play for Oral Roberts. That's what I'm doing. And then they said, what the fuck? And he said, quote, there was just too much pressure on me. I signed too early. He said, Oral Roberts has always been in the back of my mind. You know, it's in the back of most men's minds.

That's the thing about it. Oral Roberts. It's in the back of my throat. Yeah, I just felt a tickle in the back of my throat all the time and uh he said that uh quote we always felt like we had him this is the coach of the team i don't think memphis state was ever really in the picture he signed a thing and had the governor give him a fucking cuff like what are we talking about he said we knew cameron had a state tournament to win and we left him alone after i visited the campus this is vaughn again after i visited the campus and met some of the players and students i realized the social life there was a lot different than i had anticipated

it was like oh these girls do fuck okay i think that's what it was yeah you drinking fuck here right oh okay you guys do that college shit you know all that stuff that i'm going to college for so um yeah he said uh they here, and he's very excited. And the coach called Vaughn, quote, a future NBA center and one of the top prospects in the country. And he says, we're going to do our best to make him an All-American, but he can do that himself. The president is committed to win the national championship, and Dave can help us do it. So I guess that's oral roberts so there you go now his brother-in-law now at this point larry finch who's with memphis state he said he

was fucking you know he said he was pissed about it he said quote later on this is years later quote it destroyed me i had looked forward to playing with him and he said that now he was mad about him marrying his sister too and he said quote i tried separating them he was so mad he tried to get his sister to dump the guy break up with him he's an asshole break up no we were gonna have a really good like a malone stockton thing going on and this fucking guy went to another college i don't think you should you should love him anymore alone from me my Malone from me. That's not fair. I was going to be John Stockton, damn it. Do you understand?

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Wilt Chamberlain numbers here. That's pretty wild. Brandeis, they beat 123-95, 34 and 34. That's a fucking game right there. And things get a little different for him. He plays a couple years of college at Oral Roberts, and then things get a little different for him. He plays a couple years of college at Oral Roberts, and then things get a little weird. Well, not weird, just different,

and he's got to start thinking about his priorities. On March 23, 1973, a son is born. A son is born! A son is born! David III. You guessed it. Of course it is. Of course he's a junior who juniored out the son, too.

Of course. Why wouldn't he? He's got cufflinks, James. Jesus Christ. He's got cufflinks. Obviously this is going to happen. So there you go. David III is born now.

So poor David III. He's got to be the third. So this is what I mean. At this point he starts thinking about too oh shit i'm in college and i have a son one thing college doesn't do very well if you're not at a major kind of sports factory university is pay they used to pay players back then but i don't think a guy like him at oral oral roberts is getting much money so i think the church got his money i think yeah it's going right to the church filtered in there so he's a little bit upset about that and he's trying to figure out

what to do this was the time when you couldn't come out early in the nba oh there was no they started doing the hardship draft around this point but you had to like prove hardship and all this shit the nba yeah nba and they only did that because the ABA was just signing. If you don't know what the ABA is, by the way, quickly, it's the American Basketball Association. It was the rival league that started up in the mid-'60s to the NBA, and it fell apart at the end, and there was a merger, and you got the Spurs and the Pacers and the Nuggets went to the NBA out of that, and the rest of the teams folded, basically.

Yikes. Yeah, and by the end, there was only six teams left. went to the nba out of that and the rest of the teams folded basically so yikes yeah and uh it was by the end there was only six teams left i mean they were started to fold and drop off but it's a fun story there's a book called loose balls which is hilarious by terry pluto and it's fucking great it's just stories of the aba and they go all through the time period and it's really well done but some amazing fucking players were in the aba i mean that's you know like i said artist gilmore started in the aba you had julius or dr fucking jay was the star of the aba i mean there was uh marvin barnes there was a lot of big stars in the aba so it was fun white and blue ball came from right red white and blue ball introduction of

the three-point shot right so if you like basketball today it's because of that thank the aba the nba had to do it to that people loved it and they had to they had to keep up with the times so exciting it made it exciting change the fucking game in a second and it did and it did made it made basketball so much fun to watch they also invented the slam dunk contest they invented all-star weekend the first slam dunk contest dr j versus david thompson was the finals in that i'm like that's awesome so really cool shit so um anyway um what was i talking i don't know why i was talking about the aba because he may have played in the aba uh who we said someone no i don't know oh oh oh because they were saying the the option

to come out early of college. The ABA would just sign a sophomore. They didn't care. So Julius Irving was a – Dr. J came out after his sophomore year, which the NBA would have had no part of him, but the ABA did. So he's got a choice, and he also isn't – I guess he tried to be on the World University Games team and wasn't selected for the team.

So that was – he was upset about that and um also he kept having all sorts of problems with gail they got married at this point they have a son there they'd break up they'd get back together you know young kids who've been going out since they were fucking 19 that have a child and no you know no main source of income that you would fight over that and uh immature baggage uh that comes with that relationship that's the other thing so the coach said quote he was having marital problems and he just wasn't happy which is so weird to hear about a college player having problems with the wife what percentage of lady what percentage of college basketball players are married today you think what do you think the percentage is like one

maybe it's got to be low however many guys are on byu i have no idea like utah state or something other than that who the fuck is married when they're 20 that's a college basketball player unless they know that they're going to go to the nba like for sure and yeah uh they're just throwing it uh in whoever they're dating you know what i mean and just having children those maybe we'll get married that's possible yeah that's true that's true but not in college right i don't know maybe i could be wrong they do i'll bet they do i'd love to know. I'd love to know the statistics of how many Division I college athletes of all sports are married. I'd love to know that.

Excluding Utah. Excluding Utah. Like, take Utah out of it, because I'd like to know everyone else. We know it's a high rate there. We don't have to even fucking check. I'd like to know what it is with and without Utah. What is it with that? With Utah, 1%.

Without Utah, 0%. Okay, I get it. So he's having marital problems. Coach said he just wasn't giving the time to basketball, so I gave him a week to 10 days off. He also said, quote, David Vaughn is one of the quietest, most gentle people I've ever known. He was devastated and was never the same after this.

One minute he'd be like his old self. The next minute he'd be mad again. And he said, now I remember his words. This is Oral Roberts. Oh, no, this is the coach saying, I remember his words. He said, nobody loves me. I counseled him and President Roberts counseled him. Oh, my God. He was upset from a breakup. You know, he's a kid. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's 20. Nobody loves me. Nobody loves me. He's 20 years old.

I don't know. 11,000 people came to watch you play basketball. People love you. They love you. Yeah. He gets dismissed from his, he gets let go from his scholarship at Oral Roberts this year. The coach said it's the best thing for david and the best thing for the team so uh i guess he was averaging uh he averaged 32 points the last season a game and he was

averaging 19.2 this year so they're saying got a lot of problems uh his parents said they had no knowledge of his dismissal from the team. He didn't even tell us yet. He also averaged 14.3 rebounds also. Or no, that was high school. Never mind. So he was featured on the cover of the press book for the school also that year and everything else. And then he was gone. So where does he pop up?

I'd love to know. UNLV, he shows up i'd love to know unlv he shows up is that right it's the beginning of the jerry tarkanian era which is the run and rebels you know that early 90s team that if you were around in 1990 and you didn't have a unlv something you weren't shit something you have like a unlv starter jacket or a fucking hat or right sure everyone had that shit yeah they were like the cool badass school of you know everything so did nick van exel go there i don't remember i think van exel did i don't remember van exel who was their fucking point guard oh jesus no i think it was nick van exel i'm sorry i don't think it was. I'm losing my mind now. So then he found out.

By the way, this came back years later, first in 1979, and then in 1991, this came back twice to bite Jerry Tarkanian in the ass. The whole corrupt Tarkanian thing, which, I mean, I'm sure he did stuff, but it started with David Vaughn. It started with him where apparently, allegedly, he said that he needed to get a grade different to be able to go there, so Tarkanian, allegedly at the time, was

accused of arranging a grade of a B in a black studies course at UNLV. And he's also, they said he paid another player's airfare from Vegas to Pittsburgh when the guy quit the team. So, yeah, anyway, he said, so this starts out. But David finds out that he would have to sit out a year if he went there. So he's like, oh, I don't want to sit out a year. He said, quote, I was ready to go to the pros.

I knew that's where I would be eventually while I was sitting around waiting to get eligible because he had to wait out his eligibility to go to the NBA. The age, the agents kept hounding me to sign. Oh, eligible for you and LV. I'm sorry. The agents kept hounding me to sign. He said they told me all kinds of things. They told me Las Vegas was going on probation, which didn't happen, but they also had the money to offer. Uh, it was there and I took it. He said, probably the one thing that's hurt me has been, uh, that year out. It took me a while to get things together. The inactivity

makes a difference. So he was going to sit out. out yeah and then he decided against it yeah um he said uh later on because he'll end up in the pros he said that's where i should be i'm get i'll get adjusted the rules the wet red white and blue basketball the travel getting up before dawn to catch a flight maybe that's the toughest adjustment of all so uh we find out here. Where is this? Okay, yes. We find out the 1973 ABA hardship draft. Oh, boy. Now, they picked him while he was still trying to go to UNLV. So he didn't even say he wanted to be a pro. But the ABA used to hold all sorts of weird drafts, too.

They'd say, let's have a draft over here. I want to get this player. And then whoever drafted the person, that really didn't belong to them, because if the kid didn't want to go there and he was a good player, then the team would just give the rights to whoever could sign him because it was better than losing him to the NBA. So if you were a good player and you went to the ABA, you could pretty much pick your team was how it worked. A lot of the good players they sign and say, where do you want to play? Is that fair i mean that's how they did it because they it was either that or lose them you know i mean they had territorial drafts where if you were the florida team you could pick from florida and florida state and all those teams but if they didn't want to play there, then whoever would sign him. So this year in the hardship draft, he has chosen David Vaughn in the first round, which is good. First round by the San Diego Conquistadors.

All right. Which you've all heard of the Conquistadors and their legendary. And all the championship runs. We've all heard about it. legendary and all the championship runs oh we've all heard about it uh the conquistadors fold like before the season really starts this year because they were around a little bit the season before wilt chamberlain coached them is that right yes wilt chamberlain was in a contract dispute uh with the nba was pissed off so he he was still signed but he tried to go to the aba to play anyway and went into court proceedings and they said he wasn't allowed to play but he still was

he could he was allowed to coach though because that's not playing so they hired him and 10 000 people would show up just to watch wilt chamberlain stand there and tell people to move around and shit cufflinks yeah and state-issued cufflinks so uh david vaughn goes here like i said they fold so the virginia squires end up with his rights yikes and he goes to the virginia squires who were a fucking mess they were they were a fucking disaster there was like some of the teams were well run in the aba you know what i mean like They were a fucking disaster. Some of the teams were well-run in the ABA. You know what I mean? Denver was a really well-run team.

They were drawing 12,000 people when no one else was drawing shit. They were doing great. Indiana didn't have a lot of money, but they were a very well-run team. They won a lot of games. They did really well. Kentucky was a decent team good organization and then a lot of them were kind of shit there they would move cities because what would happen

is an owner would go I don't want to lose any more money I'm out and so the league would take over the team because they can't have it fold and so they would say who the fuck wants it they try to find a new ownership group in the city. If they couldn't, they'd move them to whoever the fuck would buy them. What a time to be alive.

I wish I was a businessman. I certainly would have bought the Virginia Squires and just played Billy Squire all night long. Just constant loop? Just a loop of Lonely is the Night. Billy Squire's face is on their jerseys. Hell yeah. Right in the middle.

Not even anything to do with virginia just my mascot will just be a blonde man with teased hair i like it i like it stroke me god damn it oh man so yeah virginia's they're they're one of the they're one of the shit run teams they're one of the teams that's always on the verge of folding that everyone goes are they gonna fold are they not gonna fold that's kind of how they were will there be a game today who knows who knows uh the 74 75 squires they're fucking terrible too because they can't afford anybody this is what these teams would do that when they needed money they'd sell players off wow so they needed money so they'd call up one of the rich teams and go it's amazing hey i need money will you buy my starting power forward

for 300 grand from me we already sold this locker yeah we sold it we already got sold his jersey out front the other night he's got no sneakers right now, so he needs to go somewhere. We gave away his jersey at jersey night. We did. There was only one jersey to give. It was just this. It was this. We just auctioned it off outside on the sidewalk.

We had some guy out there. He signed it, and now we're selling him. Naked, but we're selling him. He's available. That's fucking terrible. So they would do that, and then they'd have the team would have to throw in a player to match for the roster spot, but it would be a guy that signed for the league minimum. It was like the ninth guy on the bench.

So they essentially traded their starting forward for nothing, just money because they needed to pay bills. So that's how you got a lot of bad teams. Because they got to pay the water bill. Yeah. how you got a lot of bad teams. Because they got to pay the water bill. Yeah. So you got a lot of bad teams like that. There were games where one game, I think it was Virginia, they went to San Antonio and they said that the Virginia representative told the San Antonio people,

we don't know if we're going to be able to play because the sheriffs are here to repossess our uniforms because they owed a cleaning bill yeah of like a thousand fifteen hundred dollars and they didn't pay it so we're playing shirts and skins yeah boys they literally like what do we do and so the san antonio guy had to go because they were local san antonio cops so they had to go and talk to him. And they said, look, you're not going to fucking thwart. Right. We'll give them our road uniforms and we'll play against them that way.

If you have to. We're not playing shirts and foreskins. Yeah. Where's Oral Roberts? We got to keep him out of here. He's really going to be jumpy. So he said, yeah, we can't do that. So what we have.

Yeah. So he said, we'll just give him the road uniform. So let him play. Let him fucking play. What are you going to do with old uniforms now? Like, hold on to them, let them play and take them after the game if you have to. But let them fucking play. You didn't pay to clean it.

So we're going to take the clothes? The uniforms, because they owed money for him. So that's how it worked. The sheriffs, I guess that person filed some kind of grievance and that that was the solution and you can repossess these uniforms that never belonged to you in lieu of money that you're owed it's so weird but the sheriff showed up to enforce it so what are you gonna do that's the funniest business on earth. Isn't it weird? That's how crazy the ABA was. What if the guy from In-N-Out didn't pay for the potatoes this week?

Is he going to come take the white shirts that the people are wearing? Well, if they didn't clean them, yeah. If they cleaned them, yeah, they're going to leave nude In-N-Out and blazed. You're going to need those aprons. It's fucking wild. I'd like to see that at a mcdonald's sometime the franchisee guy didn't we're collecting those uniforms the guy from centaur he's like all the uniforms please so the squires stink because of this uh they get david on the team but they finish 15 and 69 wow which is fucking god awful so just god awful so uh the coach here said quote david

vaughn is one of the cornerstones on which we will rebuild this franchise there you go his signing is indicative of the commitment of the new virginia squires and what they and the uh they've made to achieve excellence on the court equal to the support of the club. Let me see here. He said, David is a young, big, strong kid who can run. He's quick for a big man and is well-tuned on defense. He's got his best years ahead of him. He's 21.

Yeah, he does. And that's the way I like them. We have so many. That's too much. He's got his best years ahead of him, and that's the way i like them that's we have so many there's too much he's got his best years ahead of him and that's the way i like them you can't say that about a man like a boy if you're the coach that sounds like about any human being it sounds so sexual nice tight buttocks when they're that age you know what i mean that's what i'm looking for and tight i like them squeezing my kind of boy my kind of boy my kind of young man crazy yeah the aba is a fascinating

tale it's so fascinating like that is happening how do you how do you not just laugh every day i can't believe we're functioning today dude that book is just i'm telling you it's like a 14 hour 12 hour long book it feels like it's no time at all because it's just hilarious and there's on the court too there's just brawling constantly guys so many stories of guys just pummeling the piss out of each other with fistfights on the court one where he got mad and threw a shoe at the guy as he was running up court wendell ladmer threw a shoe at a guy and fucking wendell ladmer was this guy, quick sidebar here. He was a big power forward center, one of the toughest guys in the league,

and he would fucking just knock guys the fuck out all the time. That was his job, right? And he got mad at this point guard for getting the ball or something, so he couldn't catch up to him, so he took his shoe off and threw it at him and hit him in the back of the head with it as he ran up the court with the ball. Like fighting siblings yeah this guy would later on move to uganda to work for edie amin oh my god and then be executed by freedom fighters or whatever he was like executed in a mass execution of edie amin followers in like the mid 80s yeah he had a crazy life there's so many guys in the aba that when you

track what they did after it's like what happened oh my god so anyway uh david this year he plays 83 games so he's on the floor 30.2 minutes a game okay 11.7 points and 10.8 rebounds just well that's not bad he's a kid so scoring might be awkward for him but i mean that's a double double i mean i'll take it that's not bad he uh he said that he um it's different for him here he said that he can remember when he was the only guy around who had to duck when he goes through doorways and all that kind of shit but he said now it's it's harder he said in high school and even college, scoring came easier. Then I could get my man beat just by jumping up and shooting the ball over his head.

He said, I'm 6'11", but it's not like, he said, up here you've got to have strength, you've got to have moves, and you've got to be able to react to that pulling and pushing and grabbing inside. ABA was a really rough game, too. Yeah, I'm playing with people my own size now. That's what's happening. Well, I mean, it was a lot of elbows. I mean, it was brutal inside, and it was wide open with three-point shooting and running.

So it was a really entertaining brand of basketball. If it's inside, guys are fighting. And if it's outside, they'll toss it around and then shoot one of those three-pointers with the red, white, and blue ball that looks so cool. It looks so good flying through the air. It does. It really does. But they said that his 11 rebounds were, you know, really good.

They're excited about that, actually. And he said, they're so happy with me. I'm concentrating on my rebound and defense. I figure the offense will come along from that. He said, I can still hit the jump shot, though. I can hit the jumper from the outside, which he couldn't actually, and that was one of the problems on the team here. They even say the Virginia folks would rather have him shooting less often from the outside.

So that's not going to work much. But he said, strength is the difference. If you've got that strength along with size, you've got most of what it takes. So he said, I think I can do it. He he said what i need to work on is that inside game you have to have the moves to get open and strength to put it up so he's in the aba he's making money he's back together with gail he's got another junior happening under his wing i'm gonna say it right now grace that's fuck it's grace as fuck. It absolutely is. Here's Virginia here.

Now, they were in the league for nine years. This is right out of the Terry Pluto book, the Loose Balls. Quote, in a league that spent nine years on the edge of disaster, no franchise went through more instability than the 75-76 Squires. It was ready to fold at least six times went through went through six coaches oh boy in a season jimmy oh no and achieved only 15 victories good god here is how it was in the words of those who lived it and there's some uh deals here uh their radio broadcaster kept a diary of the season which is that would be so fun it is

gold dude it's gold it's fucking amazing so uh anyway they 75 they draft david thompson remember the skywalker who was the number one guy that everybody wanted they draft him but there's no way they can sign him they can't afford to to sign him. So they end up shipping him off, and he ends up in Denver because they have money to sign him. So that's how that goes. Now here's Dave Twardzik. He's a player on the Squires. He says, when Virginia signed Vaughn, he was supposed to be our foundation,

the 6'11 guy we needed in the middle. We got rid of Jim Eakins uh who had been a very good center for us not great but solid he'd get 12 points 10 rebounds a night i mean you could take one look at eakins and one look at vaughn and know you'd win more games with eakins and vaughn poor vaughn was just screwed up back then he had a finesse game not much off the boards he was basically a six foot 11 jump shooter and really out of touch with reality how about that that's his teammate saying that so that is depressing that's depressing that's not a rave review it's really not and uh not at all and uh the 1975 nba draft david thompson also goes number one in that draft really but he chose the edmy the aba because

there was more money for him there is that right also vaughn is taken in the 75 nba draft once he's eligible for the nba draft he's taken by the knicks in the fourth round with pick 63 so that a lot of good that does him 75 season it gets interesting uh he'll end up with only 8.6 minutes a game in 10 games that season well what the fuck happened 2.9 points 1.9 rebounds not not good um well on july 21st 1975 his wife leaves him uh-huh that'll start it that'll start it and then it gets real interesting from there so wife leaves on july 24th 1975 he has a very strange incident with the police here um he gets arrested so it's like three days later and the newspaper article the headline is vaughn in big trouble very big probably um he is arrested for indecent exposure in virginia beach okay and the virginia beach where he lives a lunatic in virginia beach

i guess his neighbor is leroy freeman is an auxiliary policeman okay and he sees he looks out the window and he sees vaughn walking around on the sidewalk outside the house wearing, what's he wearing, Jimmy? A sock. A short t-shirt. Oh, he's Winnie the Pooh. And nothing else. Yeah.

He's pooing all over this bitch, dude. He's looking for honey, Jimmy. Is it like a belly shirt so the whole dick is out? It's, yeah. It's like a short t-shirt dick flowing flopping nothing else he's about to climb a tree look for some honey like it's obvious he's doing it so opposite you should at least just have the pants on and the thing that freaked the guy out the most was there was a tiger next to him bouncing around on his tail which the guy was like wow i've never seen that before dragging a very small pig maybe it is a

bear or i don't know so an auxiliary this guy the auxiliary policeman he just walking around just hey ladies buffet is open like how do you walk around with your dick it's virginia beach it's breezy you'd feel that on your dick hole on your dick and your nuts you'd feel taint breeze you know oh chilly out today tickle my nuts you know why like jane from or like joni from deadwood come on jane it's nippy on my twat i love that line it's so funny she's nippy on my twat so anyway this guy his neighbor goes out and arrests him for this. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm fine.

I'm walking. Like, he wouldn't even, he didn't go, oh, shit, my God, I was in a haze. I didn't realize I forgot pants. I completely forgot my pants. Cover myself up and run inside. He was like, I'm fine. When asked by the deputies once they got there he was held and then police came you know deputies once they got there and they were like so why no clothes bro like what's what's up with that

his answer that may be one of the greatest things anyone on this show has ever said it'll be the title of the episode and it's fucking amazing. Quote, God is naked too. Not at the beach. Not at the beach. What? I don't recall a single photo of Jesus naked. I guess that's not God, though. All the depictions of even God, all the depictions I've ever seen of any god

or any jesus or any whatever your fucking deity is there's always a robe or a wrap or like a yeah like a sorry or like a rope there's an actual piece of rope holding clothing clothes yeah do not see god's dick that's the thing that's that's what you know whatever happened to jesus it wasn't because his dick was out that's no one was mad at him for that like let's just make that god god is naked too jimmy i was like wow that is that's hilarious honestly it's pretty good what else could you say god is naked too great sounds good difference we were naked when we came out so i suppose this is just what we get to do now well now you're 6 11 and your cock is enormous so it's different it's just different you've scared children away with that

my god a dog tried to fetch it. It's too big. You can't, sir. Sorry, it's just too much. It's just too much boat. We can't do it. So that's insane. And that's July 24th, 75. You'd think he can't get any crazier than that, right?

God is naked, too. There's something wrong with him right now, right? You would think, I would say, right? I mean, you don't just walk around naked for no reason. Sometimes a woman leaving you will shatter your world, but I don't know many people that just walk around with their dick outdoors anymore. Outside. That's just what they do now. I'm outdoors now, me and my penis. I'm so heartbroken my penis my penis. Me. I'm so heartbroken.

My penis is outdoors. It's outdoors. My penis needed some air and a break because it's just it's been very depressed lately. This is crazy. So July 25th, 1975, the next very next day. Yeah. Four days after. So he goes to jail, gets released, and then the next day does this.

OK, this is four days after his life. His wife leaves him as well. So at the end of this day, he's going to end up with a charge of attempting to murder police officers. That's what this day will result in. And a slew of 11 other charges as well. It's not good. And he'll end up in the hospital as well. I'm having surgery. So that's not good um and he'll end up at in the in the hospital as well i'm having surgery so that's not good either so he um wow he rents a car it's a lincoln mark with a mark four yeah mark

four mark four lincoln what's a 1975 lincoln mark four he goes to a gas station. All right. Nashville gas station fills it up with 14 bucks in the tank. Puts $14 in the tank. And this was before you had to pay before you pumped this. You pump and then you go pay. Put it in. Yeah. He put it in and took the fuck off. $14.

All right. So Charlie L. Hendricks, the service station attendant said that he just left without paying for $14 worth of gas. So a policewoman here, Campbell is her name, was it Deborah Campbell? She has been on the force less than a month. Deborah, her and patrolman FG Rubin saw his car park not far from the station and went to question him they were like oh there's the car that guy made a report that's the one we're looking for let's go up and see what's up so when they arrived by him he gassed it stepped on it rammed the police car and then fucking sped away oh boy fourteen dollars worth of gas is what this is doing oh my word so he um fucking took off and then now unmarked cars join other it's an all anyone in the area fucking join

it's one of these like 70s police chases where if they all stopped they'd pile up on each other like a big yeah like that thing in stranger Things when the girl made the look like that the tunnel wasn't there anymore. That's what happened. So like a cartoon. So while he's doing this, he's got a whole brigade of police behind him. He never goes more than between 35 and 50 miles an hour. OK. Sounds crazy.

Just obeying traffic laws and shit. Stop and looking both ways. Hold on. All right. Making complete stops. Not even a rolling stop. Complete stops. He's making rights on red but not lefts.

He's doing all sorts of shit. So, by the way, frequently through this, what he would do is, because he's 6'11", he would stick his head out of the sunroof often. Because I think he's all bent. So, he'd pop his head out. You'd see his head sticking out as sunroof often because i think he's all bent so he'd pop his head you'd see his head sticking out as they're chasing him he's just this they were like how big is this fucking guy his head is sticking out of the fucking they were like is he standing up while he drives they didn't know what was going on is that another person yeah what is going on here so he's doing he's running uh the it's a what is it, over seven mile chase.

It's a long chase, 15 minute long chase. It is like, it's a long deal. Near the end of the chase, he was, he stuck his body, not only his head, but his upper body through the sunroof while he's driving, mind you. Oh, boy. And was waving his hands in the air and they said was appearing to throw objects out of the car he was just throwing shit from the car left and right like just tossing things as he was i guess driving with his leg i don't know what the fuck he was doing this is unless he's got no pants on again that might be it too i'm not sure pretty impressed

he's a big guy he's a big guy. He's a big guy. You almost have to let him go if that's how he did it. You go, wow. You know what, sir? That's kind of impressive. Can you come in and talk to young people about hopes and dreams and aspirations? Your steering wheel cover is very creative, sir. So they said that, this is from the police quote the suspect continued

driving in that manner for nearly a mile a mile a mile he drove with his cock for a mile that's incredible so it's wild finally a police car pulled in front of him and like came to a slow stop with him one of those and um but at this point all he's surrounded by police but he refuses to get out of the car he won't get out he's surrounded he's got 10 cops around him there's all sorts of cars i mean the sirens are going fucking guns drawn get out get out get out they've got him contained to be honest with you yeah at least he's not gonna i mean yeah he can't take off and go run a old lady down while they try to cross the street. So he wouldn't get out of the car.

They said, quote, the suspect refused to get out and was forcibly removed from the car. Now, as they're struggling with him, because they don't forcibly remove him, then he goes, oh, all right, you got me. It's a struggle out of the car and then a struggle on the ground as well. his struggle out of the car and then a struggle on the ground as well now he might not be able to get points over you know fucking artist gilmore but he's gonna fight off some cops he's a huge man like it's it's a lot two or six are gonna be bloody for sure it's a lot so at some point during this struggle when they're trying to get him handcuffs on him he's half on the ground the officer campbell the rookie who's been on the force less than a month the way they put it uh quote her gun discharged the one she's holding she squeezed it no it didn't she put her finger on the she got jumped fired and uh yeah this is a this is like 7 30 at night too so there's like

regular traffic this isn't two in the morning like normal people are seeing this that's the other crazy shit so also uh while during the chase he rammed several other police cars and also bashed into another car who was going through an intersection and injured a person named claudia moore so there's that as well um now the the the gun goes off and uh goes off she shot him and i mean you can't it's not an accident all right it might be an accident but they don't go off on their own usually is the thing right it functioned properly you did it with a 38 caliber as well oh no i guess hits him in the left hip and ends up somewhere. He has to get it removed from his abdomen.

He has some sort of abdomen issue. But doesn't hit anything vital or any bones. Thankfully. So very lucky on that respect. So it was a 7 3 10th mile chase, by the way. So pretty long. by the mile chase by the way so pretty long so um i guess they said that uh he was just uh he never exceeded 50 miles an hour most of the time he was doing 35 40 this is all actions of a crazy person of someone who's had a wire episode yeah yeah they said uh quote the man this is from

the cop the man just would not stop he just didn't act like a normal person during the incident. And I understand that he's still fighting officers and doctors in the hospital. He went to the hospital and didn't want doctors to treat him. And he was fighting them off. And they had to fucking hold him down so they could examine his wounds. Yeah. He was like, you know, shoving nurses and shit like that. It was not a apparently not a good scene from what I've heard from this.

you know shoving nurses and shit like that it was not a apparently not a good scene from what i've heard from this so uh campbell the one who shot him she'd been under on the force less than a month and had not yet undergone rookie training or weapons training it's a good person that called to this chase so she she wasn't like she was like on the job training yeah basically they hadn't given her like she hadn't got they needed cops so they were like yeah get her out on the street and then we'll get her in there but now she's got a gun and she hasn't had weapons training and i don't know what her gun expertise is to begin with clearly not a lot not a lot exactly he ends up in satisfactory condition from fair to satisfactory with a bullet wound in the abdomen at Norfolk General Hospital.

He is charged with four counts of attempted murder with an automobile, one count of felonious hit and run, one misdemeanor hit and run, one count each of reckless driving and failing to observe police sirens, two charges of destroying or damaging city property, and one count of pettit larceny. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding!

The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me.

Leave her alone. OK, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin.

His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns how did i know that i have crystal ball in my head it's an all-new season it's streaming you can say anything judy justice only on freebie that's a lot um campbell officer campbell what this is from the paper was quote unable to explain

how her pistol had discharged it's a 38 sugar it's a revolver do you know how many episodes of the first 48 i've seen where they say i don't know how the gun just went off, man. I don't know how it happened. I don't remember. And they go, oh, really? Oh, well, guess what? 30 years. It's because there was just enough pressure put on the trigger to discharge the weapon. That's what happened.

You can say I made a mistake in the course of policing and it didn't kill him. And, you know, he files a lawsuit and they pay him off for paying all that stuff i mean that's fine but you can't say i don't i'm unable to explain how it discharged that you can't that's not the words you can say i get that things happen okay shouldn't have shouldn't empty the fucking revolver on him or any of that stuff so if that happened you go holy shit that's a this this is clearly nervous and squeezed too hard because this is probably maybe one of her first struggles with a giant person she's ever been involved in. There's what it is. And got nervous and squeezed too hard because she didn't have the training that she should have had to be on the force, which isn't her fault necessarily, but definitely the force.

She had her finger wrapped around a trigger while she tried to wrestle a very large man. Yeah. And muscles move. At the same time, you shouldn't probably wrestle, you know, when you've bashed into a bunch of cars and now you're surrounded with guns on you, maybe give up at that point probably. Also, her superiors. But still, shooting shouldn't have been happening. Yeah. He had no weapons.

He probably shouldn't. Why put a weapon on somebody who hasn't been trained with that weapon? That's crazy. I feel, I don't know, but I feel like that doesn't, that can't be operating procedure today. Like, you'd get sued. I would fucking hope not. If you have not been trained how to use that, you should never use that. This is 1975 in Tennessee, so I'm not sure.

I mean, even in the electric industry, if you're not trained to use a tool, you're not allowed to use it. Yeah. A gun for a cop is certainly a fucking tool. Yeah. I had a job in a warehouse once and I didn't have the forklift certification. So I wasn't allowed to take a box from here to there. I had to wait for another guy to do it. It was so stupid.

You don't get the keys to that. No. That's how it works. Which makes sense. Yeah. So they said that the officer was suspended pending an investigation which is pretty normal in these circumstances anyway the uh supervisor said quote we're still looking into the question of how it went off officer camp how many guns do you guys have i don't know what

i don't think there's a question of how. It's obvious what happened. Like, how isn't the question? Why did she have a gun was probably the question. Officer Campbell said she had no intent for the gun to go off. Well, that's good to know. But then why did you pull it out of the fucking holster? You want to look intimidating, but I don't understand what... The explanation is as crazy as to say fucking that we're looking into the question of how it went off

is as crazy as saying God is naked too when you get arrested for being naked. It's just as crazy. It's the same level of head shaking. It's the exact same lunacy. You both need to be committed for Christ's sake. What now? Why are you a cop if you can't figure that out? That is fucking wild.

What cases are you cracking if you can't crack the case of how did the gun go off? Jesus Christ. And then he went on. This is Captain R.w smith of the chesapeake police he went on to say that he wishes the bullet would have never been fired he said he's quote he wished it was quote still in its barrel oh look at him he said it's the kind of thing that nobody wants to happen yeah because i assume i don't you know this the rookie cop probably didn't want that to happen she was oh shit jesus christ i just shot a guy fuck fuck fuck and i know i know for a fact david vaughn probably didn't want to be shot in the abdomen i would assume i mean just from personal experience you don't want to be shot so uh an old coach of

his because they started calling everybody he ever played for going is this normal for him is this does he walk around with his dick out getting shot a lot and he said i've not had a chance to talk to him and as far as i'm concerned the man is in the hospital and has not been booked they say because they were waiting till after surgery to fucking serve him his warrants here until he's officially booked i'm not going to make any statements about the incident that's a police uh or that's the the coach and then the coach went on to say david is not like that at all i talked to him last thursday but i've been in i had been in california since then and i only returned wednesday night i just got home and the police chief called me to tell me what happened wow that's that's silver baby the police chief called you to tell

you what happened that's right how many times the police chief call you to tell you of an emerging incident there's some connection well i mean this is a pretty wild fucking story that you kind of want to tell is the people closest to him yeah this man was shot let me tell you how uh well i'd love to but i don't know i'm not sure i'm not good at guns not good at it i don't even know how the gun went off i have no explanations for anything no clue can't tell you how he was shot the coach then said my first reaction was that it can't be him it just didn't sound like him and then we're like 6 11 cock swinging and then he's like yeah that's him never mind drives with it that guy drives with it yeah that guy that's a strong erection then you could just wrap it on the wheel and move it around so uh he said that it was he had a friendly conversation with him the last time his coach

said his old coach he said we talked about our our recent trade with Denver and we were looking to be a better ball club next season. We have not had any problems with him since he joined our team. That's Virginia coach, because this was during like the end of a season. It was like crazy. I'm sorry, right before the beginning of training camp. So his high school coach also said, quote, I was extremely surprised to hear of this type of thing. I'm glad to know that he's not seriously hurt and I hope his marital problems work out. From all indications, I understand that he was very upset about his wife leaving him.

David is a very easygoing guy and this is not the type of thing he would get into. So David Jr., who's not even three yet, he's just turned three, Junior Jr., yes, I'm sorry, David III here, he said, quote, I just hope he holds on until we get there since I heard the shot went all the way through him, which it didn't. That's what the parents heard at first. I just called the hospital and they said he was in fair condition. They said the family had also been informed that the bullet struck that, quote, missed all vital organs and he'll be able to play ball again, too. So everything's fine. Everything's great, obviously. Now, they obviously have him talk to a psychiatrist when he's in the hospital.

Because this is all very aberrant 48 hours of what the fuck have you been doing so the psychiatrist says that he was apparently suffering from a schizophrenic reaction and paranoid delusions he said they said uh he uh the judge ended up dismissing the charges of attempted murder against him and reducing other charges. And we'll talk about how that ended up coming out. And so the hit and run charge was a felony that was sent to the grand jury and also charges of petty larceny and leaving the scene of an accident were dismissed here. So Virginia here, he ends up going back and he starts with training camp with virginia gets his abdomen sewn up and everything what while he's awaiting trial this man needs serious help oh he does but the in basketball back then or in any sport it was like wow that's great can you still shoot

yeah just in life can you put you keep have your pants on while you play so september 23rd 1975 from a news item here uh vaughn joined the squires for training camp while awaiting trial uh friends blamed vaughn's problems on the breakup of his marriage okay that was that um so virginia's they got a center who's getting shot by cops and walking around with his dick hanging out right uh the one of the uh executives said everyone asked if virginia would be the next to fold same way to uh some way to start a season the team was not shaping up well yeah the david vaughn situation was still up in the air i felt very bad for coach al bianchi because i knew the team was in trouble imagine you're the coach of this i can't there's they're

selling off your players the players you do have are too young to do anything and getting shot by cops and telling people that God's naked. So, Jesus. Here's a clip from that guy's diary because it's funny. November 1st, 1975. Opened the season with five straight losses and then finally won at San Diego, who had reconstituted themselves. Had a game the next night in St. Louis. Had a 5 a.m. wake-up call and didn't get to St. Louis until 5 p.m. One of our planes was fogged in.

Another plane refused to wait for us, then lost to St. Louis. They got all the way there and then lost the game. Coming home from St. Louis, we got stuck in the chicago airport for a five-hour delay while waiting for our flight to get back to norfolk record is one and six team is depressed and exhausted i'm sitting in chicago for six hours oh my god that is fucking brutal uh matt calvin one of the players he said uh he's talking about how crazy everything was. He said, I don't think Bill, that's the coach, Bill Musselman, knew what he was up against at Virginia. He was a drill sergeant type, very aggressive with the players.

But the attitude on the team was so bad with all the losing and the checks bouncing. The checks bouncing will piss people off. That's hilarious. That's a lot. He had a drill where he rolled the ball on the court and wanted guys to dive after it um he had these vicious rebounding drills it got pretty ugly guys were killing each other taking out their frustrations on their own teammates in practice there were fights in nearly every practice that's not good and the coach is just laughing he's

loving it joe be right now an assistant coach at indiana university was on the team and he seemed to get into a fight in every single practice muscleman loved it and he played joe b mel bennett did the same thing and he got to play frankly i was never on a team before or since that fought as much in practice just it's a mess in virginia and they're about to fold. Here's Mike Goldberg. He's the ABA's general counsel, and he says, it seemed like we were always putting out fires, especially in Virginia. They had their 100 investors at a meeting. It's a bunch of guys putting in a little bit of money. And I remember Dave telling them, there's no guarantee that you'll eventually get

into the NBA, and it's hard to know what will happen with the merger, but I remember Dave telling them, there's no guarantee that you'll eventually get into the NBA and it's hard to know what will happen with the merger, but I'd stick it out if I were you. Then one of the owners stood up and yelled, they are you. The man just said, we're, uh, we're going into the NBA. Oh, there you are. The man just said, we're going into the NBA. These guys heard what they wanted to hear and they wanted the league to make it so bad

that they weren't really listening. I think that's why Virginia managed to stagger through the season. The amazing thing was that they didn't fold because you never knew from week to week if they'd be around. Here's another one here from the Fussell Diary. December 17th

1975. Jack Ankerson called a big staff meeting and discussed the front office taking pay cuts. That's nice in the holiday season. Jesus. It's a week before Christmas.

Everybody returned those toys you bought for your children. You don't have any money. If you were waiting to get in for shopping, it's a bit late now because I need your money. I need you to not take another dime. Pay cuts time. Fuck. He said, talk about your children will suffer your children will suffer talk about bad signs the commissioner came to town to talk to investors our record is 4 and 22 oh god yikes so uh finally january 76 here he was facing 12 charges he pleaded guilty to a half dozen reduced charges is what he did here uh six misdemeanor charges uh also a felony hit and run charge and a misdemeanor charge of

resisting arrest were drops were dropped two counts of attempted murder dismissed earlier uh the judge fined him you sir may fuck off listen to this here suspended your driver's license for 30 days fine of 375 dollars and he must pay it within 24 hours oh oh yeah right now that's it that's all he got that's all he got yeah for having his dick out and bashing into police cars and some other motorist. And a lawsuit against a reckless cop. Yeah. And a lawsuit against a reckless cop. Oh, then the other one.

I'm sorry. Then he ended up tacking on. That was for the one thing. Then he got you, sir, may fuck off 60 days in jail. That's what he got out of it. And fined $850. So that's what he got. 1976, he gets in a big lawsuit with the ABA because the Squires stopped paying him, calling it a breach of employment and injury to his reputation because they stopped paying him.

They signed him to a six-year, $1.2 million contract in the beginning. Wow. But it was terminated, he says, unjustly. They said it was the morality clause or whatever. So, yeah. And he's saying that that wasn't enough because the charges were reduced. So, blah, blah, blah. Charges are reduced.

Also, I've got fucking mental problems. Also, there's that. Yeah, I obviously went off my fucking rocker for a few days there. Like, that's not my normal behavior. My life fell apart. I need help. Yeah, it's not. So anyway, he ends up going back and forth with the ABA.

And I think a lot of the guys sued and they won. And then they ended up trying to have to fight to get the money from these guys. And like, you know, they get, you know, all these these weird staggered payments so he was fucking basically a couple of old his old jersey just a referee outfit and a medium you're like that can't help me at all so smooth red white and blue ball didn't have to grip on it not it's just worn worn down he spends most of the next four years in italy playing okay um in 1978 david's david the third now is five and he has gone to live with his grandparents i don't know what's going on with his mom but david junior here father david is off in italy so he goes to live with his grandparents.

This is the Reverend, Reverend in Virginia. Oh, okay, so Dave's dad. Yeah, Dave's dad. Dave won. I guess so. The original. This is, I believe, his stepmother said, quote, Little Dave was so different.

He listened, not only to us, but to anyone who had good advice for him. Little Dave was brought up in the church completely we told him keep god in front of you and there's nothing you can't do we used to have to drag dave jr to church so dave the third is much nicer um it's that the third part you say jr sounds like a piece of shit yeah the third. Sounds fancy. That's an educated little shit. Fancy. Now, back to Big David. It's during this time in his fourth season in Italy that he breaks both of his legs in an automobile accident over there. Oh, shit.

No more basketball. His legs are fucked up now. Yeah. David Jr. breaks his legs. He's fucked. That's because Italy's not built for you tall fuckers either. No. Those cars they got over there holy shit he was driving with his knees next to his ears and then he got in an accident in the back seat yeah clearly you're gonna have broken legs from that so he comes back and uh that's when he and gail split up in 1979 well not really and uh that's when he got five-year-old david lives with

the reverend in nashville and uh david the third his son says it was hard for me to be close with my parents my father was in la because we'll find out what david jr went to go do my mom was in memphis i was happy with my grandparents that's all that's all i knew so he's there um his father david our guy david junior is in he's in fucking la fucking around not seeing his kid at all i mean his mom is seeing him from memphis but he's staying with the grandparents i guess it's a very stable environment david david jr's got to get his shit together here i mean he's got to get it together he's thinking he's cool he's sitting in some apartment in la thinking he's hot shit trying to do some hollywood shit that we'll talk

about here uh not paying attention to his kid and uh finally one night uh he he orders some food yeah there's a pizza place down the street, and it's a nice Italian joint. And, yeah, he expects some kid to bring it over or whatever, but it's not. It's somebody way different. There's a knock at the door, and it's Vinnie Pazienza's mom. She's right there with a big tray of fucking ziti. And she says... How is it you've come to arrive here?

What are you doing? What's wrong with you? Do you not have clean pants? I'll wash your pants. What is wrong with you? You can't walk around with your thing swinging around. That's not going to work. What are you doing?

Oh, my God. Are you here? What's that? Ziti? You're going to eat the Ziti? You're so skinny. You're 6'11", but you're very skinny. I don't understand this.

Why did that cop shoot you? Why don't you do it? $14? You could have come to me. I would have given you $14. I would have pulled up. You could have filled your tank up. I would have given you the money.

You don't need this, David. David, what is wrong with you? David, are you eating? Are you eating? David, is it good? It's good? Good. I made it last night, but I had it nice.

I covered it right away. I put it away so that way I figured it'd be nice and fresh. What's going on over here, David? Oh, your bathroom's a mess, David. This is terrible. Oh, my God. Jesus. And then, poof. Put some pants on, David.

Put some pants. I brought you pants. God is naked too. Ma Paz therapy. You're right, sweetheart. He is naked. Poof. In a poof of ziti and pants, she's gone.

We have to call that Ma Paz therapy. Ma Paz therapy. That's what it is. She is wonderful. She is great. Ma-Paws therapy. That's what it is. She is wonderful. She is great. And David is super confused. He's like, what the fuck? What is that, a little Italian lady in my house?

I don't understand what's happening. I grew up in Tennessee. So the mid-'80s comes around, and David Jr., not David III, David Jr., he starts getting acting work. Where? In L.A.? Yeah, in little roles. Because he's tall. He's 6'11". He's 6'11". He's a nice looking guy, too. So he's a good...

If you need a basketball scene, you put him out there. Cobble around with his broken legs. Yeah, he's in Better Off Dead. Really? Yeah, John Cusack movie. Is that right? right yeah he's in he plays jock number three so i don't know if there's i don't remember all the background characters i'm saying with some jocks yeah there's a six foot eleven guy that's david vaughn

uh he's also in a what is this get out of my room which have you ever seen this that sounds like a porn james it's not it's a cheech and shong movie oh what which is so fucking strange because i've seen i think most all of them when i was a teenager the cheech and shong movies i watched up and smoke a couple months ago it's oh it's still wonderful and this one with peewee herman is that that that's nice dreams nice nice dreams peewee's doing coke under the table that's fantastic so much as a filthy i wish he was a isn't it isn't it a bummer that children children tv ruined that poor guy yeah well it made him more money than he could count i mean it made him too it made him too uh seen i don't know yeah

yeah to expose he's a good fucking actor man he's and from what've heard, an amazing human being. Yeah. Yeah. I love him to death. He's terrific. Now, this I can't believe I've never seen this because it sounds actually if it's done half decent, it sounds pretty cool. It's get out of my room. It's in quote, quote, and Cheech and Chong's get out of my room.

The stoners hit the streets of L.A. in a mockumentary about themselves. So that's a meta shit right there. in a mockumentary about themselves. So that's some meta shit right there. Like, a mockumentary about yourself? That's fucking... Because they became this weird thing. So that's really cool. Featuring their classic song slash video, Born in East L.A. Okay, that's good.

Making fun of Born in the U.S.A. Very nice. And Born in East L.A. What a great song it was. It's great. I thought it was awesome. It stars Cheech and Chong and Beverly D'Angelo. She's in every one of these movies we talk about.

Do you notice that? She's, yeah. Mom from Vacation. Jan Michael Vincent. She was so fun, though. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, he plays an immigration officer.

So, I mean, small part. And finally, Cassandra Peterson. Elvira's in it as well. What? What a weird... I gotta watch this movie. I'm gonna Cassandra Peterson. Elvira's in it as well. What? What a weird... I gotta watch this movie. I'm gonna track it down and see if it's any good. Who cast this shit?

I don't know. Well, David plays a basketball player in that, so that's a pretty good role for him. Some range. Then in 86, he is on two episodes of It's Gary Shandling Show, which is... Is that right? I had no idea about that uh the grant gets broken episode and the day gary moved in episode he plays second basketball player in both of those two separate episodes so i don't know if it's a revival of a part or what or what it is so

um then during the late 80s he uh he was working as a quote manager in commercials and in the movie industry is what he told the paper whatever that means i don't know he's trying to be a hollywood manager which is weird anytime that feels very i'm a rapist yeah yeah i'm looking for young girls to sit on my couch and uh i'm to we play Winnie the Pooh. That's how it works. We just have a nice a pooing, we call it. And it's a Winnie the Pooh day. And she'll sit down and I come in and my cock swings freely.

It's wonderful. I'm a manager. I can do this. I'm a creep. I'm a creep. I'm a creep all day. So it's at this point, David, the third is in high school, 1989. so it's at this point david the third is in high school 1989 so um there's an article in the paper here from nashville february 20th 89 uh quote the new vaughn generation is remindful of the older

one i hope not hope this guy wears pants remember the old nashville cameron high teams which won two straight national championships in 70 and 71 who doesn't remember a high school basketball team from 20 years ago only 11 000 people remember that jesus fucking christ uh they talk about david vaughn was on that team quote his son david vaughn the third is a 15 year old sophomore on the 24 and 4 whites creek, which recently won 23 straight games. The Cobras are also top-seeded boys squad in the District 11 AAA tournament. Even though Whites Creek coach Cornelius Ridley's old Pearl High teams never beat Cameron in the earlier Vaughn generation, Ridley has at least the comfort of knowing the younger one is now on his side.

The older one kicked my ass, Now I got the younger one. He said, David is the spitting image of his father. When he goes up and blocks a shot, it reminds me exactly of his father. So many of his mannerisms are the same. When I coached at Pearl high, we never beat them when he was on that team.

So they got his kid. So, um, yeah, they said that a newspaper article says that he lives in L.A., David Jr., you know, and they said that he has frequent phone contact with his son and offers him advice. And they also said that he was recently there to watch one of his games. And David confirms David. The third confirms his dad talks to him.

He said he tells me that I'm going through, that even though I'm not starting, not to let that get me down. He's told me to watch the flow of the game and to pick up little things. I should do, little things I should do to help the team when I get into the game. He's been very helpful.

He kept emphasizing when I started playing in the seventh grade, not to play basketball because of him. He told me to play it only if I wanted to that's good that's actually really good he said that his grandfather's also been a big uh inspiration that's who he's living with he said he comes to all my games and gives me lots of encouragement so um yeah he said he's doing fantastic until when he's 15 years old yeah so sad man there's always something. It's crime and sports, so it's going to be a shit show at some point.

Everything falls apart on this show. So during this time, his mother, Gail, suffers a heart attack and dies. Oh, no. When he's only 15. Shit. I mean, and she's in her 30s, for Christ's sake. Right. She's a lady. Wow. That's awful,, and she's only, she's in her thirties for Christ's sake. That is, wow. That's

awful, man. That's really awful. Um, David the third said, quote, that was really rough on me. I really love my mother. Well, yeah, it's your mother. I'm sure. Of course. It wasn't that bad. You know, we didn't really, we just didn't click. You know what I mean? Like it's your mom. Yeah. Yeah. We loved her. We got it. She gave birth to me, been in my life my whole time uh not real sad not real you know what we just never real close just never really felt it he said that was a bad time in my life yeah i bet it was that sounds awful poor kid 15 is a shit time for your mom to go that's brutal way too early so 1990 they talk about about how he's doing super well and he's his team was an underdog in this tournament and they were doing well anyway because, you know, he was crushing shit. And he had 33 points, 20 blocks and 20 rebounds and six block shots at a game one time in a tournament. So he's just fucking ripping it off

they're talking or ripping it off ripping it up memphis state wants him okay oh they have another try at it so that's pretty fucking hilarious i think he beat they beat a team 86 to 45 in the tournament that's pretty nasty uh colleges want. From the newspaper, it says letters and correspondence regarding college are already beginning to flow into the school and Vaughn's home mailboxes. He says, they tell me how valuable I can be to their school and how much of an impact player I can be. Right now, I'm just enjoying the letters. I'm not going to make up my mind on where I'm going until I'm a senior anyway. And going through this part is fun so he's like i enjoy being a pretty girl right now i'm a pretty girl at the dance and i'm

liking it that's all i'm gonna fucking fluff seen my yeah i'm gonna fluff up my tits and go get some punch you know so you want some who wants to dance fellas feels What is it? Crisp on my twat? Is that what it is? It's nippy on my twat. Nippy on his twat right now. It's nippy on my twat, Jane. Every time he gets a letter, it's nippy on my twat. Yeah, it's nippy on my twat.

So his uncle, who is his mom's brother, Larry, is the coach at memphis state at this point so that's oh my god that's pretty nice so uh he began inviting david to memphis in the summertime to attend basketball camps there and stay with his family so get him used to going there wait till oral roberts comes into town no shit so by the time he oral roberts is coming through buddy by the time he Horrell Roberts is coming through, buddy, by the time he finishes high school, he's totally all he wants to go to is Memphis State. He's been going there for years, you know. So it's funny because then his dad committed and didn't go. He said that at this point he's in touch with his dad again because then he wasn't for a while in high school. And at this point, his dad is workingashville in a home for dysfunctional children

whatever that means that's nice um he said that he's learning about who his father was as a basketball player because he never got to see him play he said i've seen not lots of news clippings about him he was a great player he knows a lot about the game and he shares it with me. So he said, you know, he's happy with it. The coach, Finch, he says that we're young and young guys don't know how to tense up. Oh, my God. Why does this all sound sexual? Young guys, you can just slide it right in there. They don't even know to try to break your cock off.

It's great. What is going on here? This is his mom's brother. Yeah. Yeah. But a lot of it will depend on david vaughn so he is a 1990 1991 mcdonald's all-american yeah very good that's one of the main things you do there um now his father on the other hand lives in cal California, but according to his parents, you know, the Reverend in Virginia,

they don't know exactly where. Oh, just somewhere. Not the second largest state in America. Yeah, just somewhere in there. North, south, we don't know. It could be San Diego or fucking Fresno. That's different. Either way, he's over there.

They said that they seldom hear from him, the family. They said they don't have his telephone number or his address he didn't give his phone number to his parents yeah who and rather than just imagine i'm living in fucking venice rather than bakersfield i think that's what it is she said the last time they saw him was the last uh spring state tournament when he came to see Little Dave play. Little Dave is 6'10", by the way. Yeah. David Vaughn III. 6'10". Very little Dave. One inch.

They said, well, how was David Jr., the dad? And Virginia said, quote, he was okay, he's remarried, and he's working in some kind of auto parts store. Oh, he's in Blythe. Yeah. It's even worse. it gets farther out in the desert every goddamn time we talk and bring something up it's just getting well no it's

barstow jesus christ just kill yourself oh enough it's so bad he's in like imperial county yeah that place off the imperial what is the one uh indio he's an indio that's where you stop and get gas i think that's where imperial county is that yeah it's a really big county and it covers like from mexico up to like i don't know fucking tahoe it's far and it only exists for people from phoenix and la going to or phoenix and las vegas going to LA because that's the first place you can stop for gas after a long while. It's not like a lone thing. There's like McDonald's are there and there's like food.

You look down and you go, I've got about a third left. I don't know if I'll make it. We'll stop here. We'll fill up. And you know what? I'm going to grab a cheeseburger anyway, so that's fine.

That's what happens. Everybody got to pay? Let's pay. And that's why that place exists. Why it's there. A little better gas mileage mileage that place is wiped off the face of the earth never gonna exist again ghost town tumbleweed six miles more out of my gallons you're fucked you're out i can make it now now i know i'm making it all the way to disney world now i don't need you don't need you i I can get right to Mickey and her polka dotted dress.

Fuck off. Front porch, baby. He's working at an auto parts store and Virginia said his son was glad to see him. He hadn't seen him in two or three years. Jesus, that's brutal. So in 1991, David III arrives at Memphis State. So he's one of the most touted recruits in the nation. He's basketball.

His father played. He's second generation. He's 6'10". So it's not too bad here. So freshman year, he averages 13.4 points a game. And part of that is on his team, Memphis State early 90s. You know who's on that team, Jimmy? Penny Hardaway.

Penny fucking Hardaway. You betcha. That's a pretty goddamn good ball player that gets a lot of attention at Memphis State. He is so good. And he's a great passer, a great scorer. Minus injuries, he would have been amazing. He was nasty. People don't remember that look up like a youtube video of uh penny hardaway highlights you'll see some

shit that you're like wow that was yeah really impressive a big six fucking seven six eight point guard that could fucking he was nasty man slick and smooth yeah he was good man so handsome he was yeah he was great for the nba jesus he was really nice guy too slinging sprite with chris rock fucking super fucking nice guy too like really like a like a gentle kind of a guy it's even from everything i've been heard except for today when the media asked some questions and he just fucking has had enough oh yeah by now he just had a press conference like last week and he just told them all how much of fucking assholes they are asking them why they suck we suck because they're

kids let them be well why are you not getting them better than coach because i i'm penny hardaway and my legs are broken that's why and they're all broken you don't understand my back's fucked up it's all messed up. I'm a disaster. So in the tournament, they went to the tournament. They had their opening game against Arkansas, and he started with eight rebounds and ten points in the first half, which is pretty good. But Vaughn ends up hurting his knee there in that game and suffers a partial tear of his ACL. So he's done for the season he said it put a damper on things i thought i thought we could make it to the final four when i went out we lost

that chance that's awfully fucking um awfully cocky of it yeah so proud of yourself he only plays in one game in 92 93 because of the uh the injury. His freshman year, though, he played in 34 games, averaged 13.4 points, 8.3 rebounds a game. By the time his junior year comes around, when his knee is healed up here, he starts all 28 games, 16.6

points, 12 rebounds a game. 3.8 blocks, too. So, that's pretty goddamn good. In 1992, when they He's so good. That's pretty goddamn good. In 1992, when they go to the tournament, they have a really nice story in the paper here. Yeah, a little Cinderella. His grandfather can't afford to go to the game. What?

And his grandfather wants to go to the game. So the legislature raised money for him. He's a state employee. He's a janitor at the state legislature money for him. He's a state employee. He's a janitor at the state legislature, the grandfather. And so they wanted to get him there. So they raised money. And then there was an issue of that was a violation of NCAA rules. So he ended up getting the money for it.

They got him enough money for a first class ticket and everything, they said. And reservations at the same hotel as the team and $300 spending money. They wanted him to go have a good time. The Senate and House of the state gave standing ovations as the Reverend thanked them and sang How Great Thou Art, Jesus. He started so religious. He sang religious songs, too. I'd like to thank you with a song about jesus i'd like to thank you about a song about jesus uh but you can interpret it that it's singing it about you about you because how great thou art hold on i gotta take my dick out though

because it's jesus so we know he's naked he did an acapella rendition that had house members quote pulling out their handkerchiefs. This is in the newspaper. Unbelievable. That's pretty fucking amazing, man. That's pretty cool shit. So anyway, that's nice that he got to do that. Ninety two.

Ninety three. Like I said, he's kind of screwed with the knee injury. It was I guess it was they said six to eight weeks at first, but then he sat out like a whole year for it. They said six to eight weeks at first, but then he sat out like a whole year for it. They said it was a large, they didn't know, but a larger complete tear would require ligament reconstruction. And then they said the ACL is an inch and a half long. Wow. That's all it is?

So many careers are fucked up for an inch and a half long band of tissue at the center. It's on the side, right? No, MCL's on the side. ACL's in the front. So it's the middle one in the back? In the front. Oh, shit. Like if you bend your knee and under your kneecap, that's your ACL. That's where it is.

Yeah, that's your ACL. Connecting that joint in there. And then one on the side is MCL. Yeah, that's fun shit. So that's what he's going to do. And the coach said it was terrible that he was hurt. He said, when you prepare for the worst, everything else is a bonus. I'm not looking at this just as a coach, but also as his uncle.

You don't hear that. Talk about silver. I'm going to protect him for multiple reasons. Unless his legs are in great shape, my advice is not to come back this season i would kill myself if i brought him back too soon and he really tore up his knee i'd hate to sacrifice him just so we could have a great season that it doesn't concern my livelihood this concerns my blood i care about him more than i care about doing my job i figure i can do something else but there's only one david The hyperbole from this motherfucker is crazy.

No shit. Everything's just, I'll kill myself. Yeah. Blood. I care about my blood. I don't care about my job. Fucking, it's all very. Everything is so far the extreme.

Christ. I didn't know Finch. I'll fucking kill myself. I didn't know Finch was an Italian name. He sounds very Italian. He's very. Listen to this. I'd hate to sacrifice him just so we could have a great season.

This don't concern my livelihood. This concerns my blood. It's my blood. I care about him more than doing my fucking job. You understand me? I figure me, I could do something else. But there's only one David, you know? He's a kid, for Christ's sake.

I'm not looking at this as his coach but also as his uncle unless the kid's legs in great shape my advice don't even come back this year you sit down i'd kill myself if i brought him back too soon and he really tore up his knee forget about it i'd be i wouldn't be able no i couldn't do nothing i kill myself i'd fuck i'd kill myself i swear to god i'd take a fucking i'd take a big knife and i'd plunge it into my fucking chest so it pissed my heart you understand suck start my 12 gauge for christ's sake i'll bleed out all over my fucking living room i don't care it's worth it from this boy this young boy boy, my young nephew. I'll splatter my brains on this picture of Jesus in my living room.

I'll put a rosary on and I'll blow my fucking top of my head off with this. I will spread skull all over this living room with a fucking 12 gauge while I'm holding the rosary in one hand and a picture of Jesus in the other. You understand me? Right in front of

my wife. Right in front of my kids. And I'll tell them, I'll say, this is for David. Boom! You don't understand, his knee's a mess. He needs his leg, for Christ's sake. Oh! Boom! I asked him to play the fourth quarter.

It's my fault. And then Vinny's bossy ends his mom, comes in, oh, his knee is so bad, quarter. It's my fault. And then Vinny's, Basi Enzo's mom comes in. Oh, it's so bad. Oh my God. Yeah. Eat. It'll make you feel better.

Oh God. It'll heal the ligaments. They need pasta. It is shocking that, uh, it helps. It's shocking that David's dad has so many mental problems when everybody around him is just talking about how fucking they'd kill themselves. I'd kill myself.

Over an injury. If this Taurus fucking person, it's my fault. Hey, what kind of a fucking prick am I, you know? I asked him to run the triangle. It's my fault. Oh, you don't understand it. I knew he couldn't do it. It's too much. It's too much. I can't take it no more. I knew he couldn't do it.

It's too much. It's too much. I can't take it no more. I know there's too much strain on his knees. This is ridiculous. I can't take it. I'm going to off my... I drew up the alley-oop. It's my fault. I rigged up a contraption, okay, where I hold myself up and then I rigged up where I could pull a string and then a cannonball

will fire through my chest making a clean hole like a cartoon. And I think that's the best way for me to go out. I need to show everybody how contrite I am over this poor kid's fucking knee. And I deserve it. I'm being honest. I deserve every fucking minute of it.

I shouldn't have said it. Kids, gather around and watch this. This is going to be important for later on in your life so you know not to be a fucking asshole. Don't be a jerk. It's 40 seconds. We had two timeouts. I could have just drawn up a normal play.

I called the alley-oop. Boom. His knees are fucked. Fucked. It's all fucked up. I said, ah, I'm not on his fucking knees. Scratzy-eyed I am. We had two timeouts.

Two timeouts. Dude, I could have had a fucking veal cutlets parmesan sandwich in two time outs. That's how much time I had and instead I'm like, oh, break your legs now. Now I'm the bad guy. Alright. Inbound alley-oop. What kind of moron am I? Oh, one, two, three, bada boom, bada bing, we're done.

We're out of here. We win. What's wrong with that? Wow, I will kill myself. I will kill myself. Oh! What an interview stella so 1994 comes around and penny hardaway is no longer there now yeah as we remember drafted by the magic uh yeah so he found himself with no penny and uh you know he said quote it's a lot different playing with with anthony was a great experience but if you've got but you've got to move on i think it's important to get our chemistry together get the feel for each other so uh he gets the feel for his junior year then in 1995 he goes i'm not coming back for my senior year yeah i'm not

gonna do it um he says he's declaring himself eligible for the nba draft after that's junior year yeah he said i've had fun playing for my uncle and it's difficult for me to leave uh but you know he's gonna do it anyway he had 12.9 points 9.6 rebounds in his junior year so you know he did pretty well uh he's the eighth underclassman to declare for the draft that year that draft season jimmy number one 1995 nba draft five jesus is it one overall kid it is absolutely not jason kid uh no his shack was like 92 it is joe smith oh remember him from maryland yeah from maryland golden state drafted him he uh okay yeah career of 10.9 points a game not exactly a number one overall draft pick this is a jerry stackhouse

draft too uh yes uh no yes it is number two overall antonio mcdice to the clippers god he was fucking fun to watch antonio mcdice god damn it uh uh nash throwing him those oops man and him soaring and they were fun to watch how did he go they got number one and number two oh golden state not denver yeah golden state then mcdice went to the clippers that's who drafted him yeah they drafted him first uh number three overall number three and four both out of north carolina which is pretty cool number three overall jerry stackhouse yeah number four rashid wallace no shit as well going to the uh bullets at that point number five overall only guy without a college listed kevin garnett right out of high school this is a good draft actually oh till we get to number six bryant reeves yeah i was gonna say big country big

country i got a flat top and a mustache and and I'm ready to play in the NBA. Did he go right to Utah? No, he went to Vancouver, Bryant Reeves. Oh, that's right. He was there first. Damon Stoudemire out of Arizona, number seven, to Toronto. Then you got Sean Respert. Ed O'Bannon, who recently became in the news again with his lawsuit and winning it and making it so NCAAcaa guys could make money off their likeness anyway

so good for him uh kurt thomas meant to miami remember him like a weak center not weak he was strong but he just didn't score very much gary trent cherokee parks corliss williamson brent barry alan henderson bob surah remember these guys i remember all these guys theo ratliff randall childress jason kathy michael finley 21 he was a good player actually michael finley to the sons I remember all these guys. Theo Ratliff, Randall Childress, Jason Caffey, Michael Finley, 21. He was a good player, actually. Michael Finley to the Suns at 21. Remember him? Yeah.

Suns, Mavs. He was really fucking good. Travis Best. Number 25 overall, Orlando Magic select David Vaughn. In the first round. First round, 25 overall. So he's going to play with Penny. He's going to play with penny he's going to play with penny again that's the thing penny would be the players had a lot of input in there you know what

i mean like sure the reason they got penny to begin with is because shack fucking said get me fucking penny hardaway that's the guy i want to play with because he uh he played with him on in the blue chips movie and penny said that there's a documentary. Did you see that? The Magic Moment 30 for 30? It's really good. It's about those first couple years of the magic and Shaq and Penny and all that.

And he said that he was in college when they did the movie Blue Chips, which they're both in it. And the games are like real games. You know what I mean? They're playing like real games and filming them. And he said, my goal was to

hit shack with the best fucking pet hit him with oops hit him with all this shit and just make him love me make him fall in love with me so he'd want to play with me in the nba oh the smartest and then when he got back to orlando he was like you're drafting penny fucking hardaway i don't care what you say he knows what to do he said i put my hand up and a ball arrives in it and it's like perfect like i didn't even he's not even looking at me he's the other side ball in hand easy basket he's like dudes of it's shocking that team didn't do in infinitely better with with scott and anderson penny shack you can plug any power forward in there you should do great one shack left they

they built it up to where we'll get get it, we'll talk about this season, and we'll say exactly what it is. So, by the way, he's drafted Grace III. Oh, no. We had Grace Jr. This is Grace III. July 95, there is, I guess there's a little player lockout, I suppose, here. What is it?

Yeah, there's some sort of uh a labor dispute they call it and uh he said this is the first time something like this has happened there's things i'd like to do for my family and myself but we'll just have to wait so he gets drafted yeah he gets drafted and they don't since there's a labor dispute he doesn't sign right away so he gets no money so he's he's this drafted mba guy i've been struggling your whole life for this but this has never happened yeah sorry you're gonna have to wait a little longer fuck he said i'd already gone down there and worked out for them one time before he said you know he said quote um i might have close to oh yeah yeah he said i might on draft day i might have close to 60 to 70 people in my agent's office waiting to watch the draft with me.

My aunts, uncles, cousins, friends were all going to be there. And the only way that I would be able to go to Orlando and work would be to get back to my family was to rent the jet. So he had to rent a private jet to go back to do this thing. And then he said he has to pay for it because the team isn't doing it he said they flew in anthony hardaway and had the him work out for them too because uh the same way the magic did with him so magic flies people in to work out at the time so uh he says things have worked out well for him there i'm looking forward to playing on one of the best teams in the world you can't ask for a better situation it's awesome no pressure on you because you're you know a big

man where shack is so who cares you got shack and horace grant ahead of you who gives a shit wow this team will go over nick anderson daryl armstrong uh anthony buoy anthony bonner horace grant penny hardaway fucking shack donald royal dennis scott brian shaw uh jeff turner von this Horace Grant, Penny Hardaway, fucking Shaq, Donald Royal, Dennis Scott, Brian Shaw, Jeff Turner, Vaughn. This is a fucking team, man. This is stacked. Even B. Shaw. That guy was so good at threes. Jesus.

There was a lot of good little role players on that team, too. 95-96. They go 60-22 that year. Yeah. You're damn right they did. They sweep the Pistons in the first round of the playoffs, winning five over the Hawks, and then they go to the Eastern Conference Finals

where they run into a Michael Jordan just came back Bulls. Yeah, that's what happened to them. They ran into number 45. They ran into the wall of Jordan, and they were fucked. They were fucked, man. Different number, same talent. It's brutal, man. And then without Shaq, the next year there's no Shaq, and they were fucked. Yeah. They were fucked, man. Different number, same talent. It's brutal, man. And then without Shaq, you're just, the next year, there's no Shaq, so there you go.

That was the team's, that was their window. That was the only chance. And they fucking missed it. He plays in Vaughn, plays in 33 games, 8.1 minutes a game. He's a power forward slash center, so 1.9 points, 2.4 rebounds a game. So, back up. You're playing up playing behind shack he makes 534 grand though solid that's nice stuff um he says that at this point when he starts getting money is he's got a three-year deal yeah start spending money and this is when it gets crazy. He said he starts having, he calls it manic spending habits.

He'd just go off. He says that he was drafted. He bought a Yukon, a Corvette, a Mercedes, a Range Rover, a Lexus, and then got another Yukon because he felt like he needed two. Now you're broke. Yeah. He said that the Corvette was ridiculed by his teammates. They said, quote, hey, rookie, get rid of it. It's too small.

Because he's 6'10", getting out of a fucking Corvette that's on the ground. And he said, after everything, he said, quote, I should have just bought a Buick. Yeah. That's all. He purchased a $250,000 house in Orlando, which he had two loans on. He paid the note on his grandfather's house near nashville he paid off the reverend's house he also bought a 212 000 house in nashville and invested in a construction deal that he lost a shitload of money in as well of course

yeah he said quote the money just exhausted itself he said that his financial advisors quote never stepped in and made anything last a lifetime i was left to make my own decisions like an adult that's the thing they can tell you hey be careful but if you keep telling a guy every time you buy something not to buy it eventually they're gonna you're gonna fire them right it's my money fuck you so i don't know he said uh this is before the mandatory rookie transition program that they have now. Not that it really matters, I don't think, but still. So he bought all this shit.

He paid $25,000 to a contractor who some friend recommended to him to put new bathrooms in the Nashville home and turn a bedroom into a closet. You want to turn a bedroom into a closet you want to turn a bedroom into a big closet um he just vaughn just wrote him the check before he even started and the guy never did anything no god didn't sign okay oh you're my buddy my cousin's buddy or whatever so here's here's a check and the guy till it's done man half and half babe that's how you gotta do it and he never uh never never And he never did it. Nothing happened. Still a bedroom now.

So he said the money felt like a bottomless pit, but it wasn't is the problem. His agent, his ex-agent or whatever, Kyle wrote, he said, most people don't get access to a lot of money in their early 20s. Naturally, when you get older, you have a little bit better set of sensors to understand what is good bad and ugly yeah but it's just when you're older you start to get paranoid about oh my god i'm gonna run out of money i need money when you're 21 23 and you got money you just feel like well this will go on forever with this money yeah yeah and i'm 23 so i'll either be dead by next year like all kids i'm not gonna live i'll never be old or i'll i'll make i'll roll this into something even bigger i

can spend what i want but if you're 38 you go yeah holy shit i'm gonna take every dime and put it in here oh should i put that in a mutual fund or something or like something that can you know do i have much more time to make money yeah oh god to last shit oh am i gonna be 75 can, you know, do I have much more time to make money? Is this going to be enough to last? Shit. Oh, am I going to be 75 and like, you know, living in my kid's shed or something? Like what's going to happen? Begging them to bring me ramen. Please bring me ramen.

I need a salt bomb. Anything. I need some sodium. 96, 97 in Orlando. They're 45 and 37. A little different with that shack that's uh yeah things get different here uh a coach gets fired brian hill gets fired when he's 24 and 25 and uh they go to the playoffs though they lose they have brian grant here right isn't he yeah uh no no horace grant brought as the uh who the fuck do they get to replace him?

Oh, Ronnie Cycli. No, Ronnie Cycli was gone. He was gone, too. He was the Heat, not the Magic, too. I think it's Brian Grant. It might be. It might be. I'm trying to think who they got to replace Shaq now.

So either way, they go to the playoffs, and the first round, it goes all five. Those are the five game first rounds. And lose to the Heat, who started coming on at that point. And that year had a lot of good brawls in the playoffs. That year, he starts six games. He plays in 35, starts six. Still only 8.5 minutes a game, though. So 2.3 points and 2.7 rebounds.

And $614,000. Not bad. That's good Buick buying money there. Yeah. 97-98. October 28th, 97. He's traded by the Magic with Brian Shaw. Nice little role player there.

To the Golden State Warriors for Mark Price. Really? Yeah, the old Cavs point guard. I believe that's when Penny started having injury problems and they needed a point guard that could... Got it. They needed somebody that in case something happened, he could step in and run the team for a while here.

So he's traded to Golden State, though. So he ends up in Golden State. December 1997, he goes on the injured list with tendinitis in his knee. That's not great. So then February 19, 1998, he's traded by the Warriors with a second

round draft pick to the Chicago Bulls. In the middle of their 1998 season where they won 72 games and all that shit. So, yeah, not too shabby one of the better teams of all time he's traded for jason caffey who is funny because he was drafted like four spots ahead of him so it's always a wash between caffey and vaughn and they're both

just big stiffs that are five fouls basically you know that's all it is all it is you need you need a guy in case you play shack you need somebody with five extra fouls that you can throw in shack mark west yep you need mark west you need joe klein you need one of these big bums hot rod williams hot rod go in there bang around it's all the fucking terrible centers from the sons there there they are i remember they tried to play wayman tisdale at center what are you doing, what are you doing? No. Rest in peace, Wayman. Fuck, that was a poor guy. So he goes there. That's February 19th, 1998.

March 2nd, 1998, right before the playoffs, he's waved by the Bulls. Ouch, damn it. That sucks. He could have done something here. He could have had a ring. So March 8th, though, six days later, later the new jersey nets signed him to a 10-day contract to uh fill in for ronnie cycli who just went on the injured list here so 97 98 he plays for both teams and what are his total numbers here 4.1 points and 3.8 rebounds oh no 10-day

contracts and those numbers that is not not good. That's not terrific. $693,840, though. That sure is. That's not bad. I'll take it. I take that every day of the week. $98.99, New Jersey. This is a weird team, too.

It doesn't sound good. You got David Benoit, or Benoit. You got Sam Cassell. No, I think it is Benoit, isn't it? It's Benoit on this one. That's Benoit Benjamin we're thinking of. I don't remember. Michael Cage, Sam Cassell. No, I think it is Benoit, isn't it? It's Benoit on this one. That's Benoit Benjamin we're thinking of. I don't remember. Michael Cage, Sam Cassell, Yinka Darre.

Remember Yinka Darre? Holy shit. Sherman Douglas, Chris Gatling. There's one of ours. Kendall Gill, Lucius Harris. What a great name. Kerry Kittles, Don McLean, Xavier McDaniel, Ronnie Cycli, Keith Van Horn, Jason Williams, another one of ours. So he's on this team.

Oh, by the way, where the hell is it? One of the teams that his father was on, I can't remember what team it was. There was a guy named Cincinnati, Cincinnati on the team. That was his first name. His first name is Cincinnati. Cincinnati. I'm going to fucking try to find it quick because I got to find it. I think it's

Cincinnati or Cincinnati. Some crazy thing with Cincinnati is his fucking name, but it's made it even weirder. Cincinnati. I think it was the Squires that year. Cincinnati was on the team. I believe if I'm not mistaken. So

keep an eye out for since anatomist let's see where was i now okay here we go there we are so anyway there's the uh he's broke he's doing all this shit um he's not having having a good time here so uh obviously he ends up uh 98 99 makes 450 000 bucks he played 10 minutes a game averaging 3.4 points 3.4 rebounds he's a three and three guy so i don't know if i want to be the star of a team and make a shitload of money or if i want to be this kind of career just make like five six mil and walk away that's awesome but you got to be good enough to hang on is the problem here. I don't know. You got to average more than 2.9 a game, I think, to stick on there. You have to be a guy who can do something off the bench that no other buddy can do that nobody else can do.

And that's it for him. That's it for his NBA career. 2.9 points, 3.1 rebounds a game average. 3.9 million dollars. Yep. 9.8 rebounds a game average. $3.9 million. Yep, 9.8 minutes played per game. So not great. 99 and through 2003, he goes all over the place to play. He goes to the Philippines. He goes to Greece.

He goes to Spain. Starts playing everywhere here. Here's an article from him when he goes to the Philippines in 2002, and they call him a former bruiser for Memphis in college ball. They're saying here, so they're very excited about him. They said, quote, Vaughn will

be arriving from the United States today. He's joining the Ginebra team with solid credentials, including an impressive three-year stint with Memphis in the US NCAA. Yeah, that was good. They're not impressed. His credentials are not solid.

They said, son of David Vaughn. They put that in there as well. He injured his ankle after only one game in his sophomore year in 1992, but was granted an extra year of eligibility. So that's how he ended up doing that. but was granted an extra year of eligibility. So that's how he ended up doing that. This is, by the way, since the 80s,

this is the first Filipino Basketball Association import that was a first-round NBA draft pick. Is that right? Yeah, so they're very excited. This is huge for the league. That's exciting and huge for that league, but that's depressing for David Vaughn. It's not good. I'm the first one that was successful

enough to get in the first round and now wound up here. Yeah, and they said it's like he's that's when Italy and Spain and those leagues started paying a lot, so it was hard for the Filipino leagues to even get teams. So his career's over.

He's pretty fucked. His NBA pension won his career's over he's pretty fucked uh his nba his nba pension won't kick in till he's 48 he's 30 so 18 years got some time to wait for that one here uh not very good here he says though quote i wouldn't trade my nba experience for anything in the world i bet that seems fun no that's how you're gonna have a career you're gonna have a life later thank god for that no uh so 2003 he goes back to orlando to get a job um not with the magic or anything actually uh he got a job unloading trucks at a grocery store oh no i really hope he at least went to the team first and was like hey you need like a extra coach a summer league guy like uh you know somebody that needs to unload a truck i'll do that if you can if i can unload

basketballs because they're pretty light once the air's in them if i could do that or like whatever you need me to do i'd rather do it for this team than you know at the kroger is what i'm getting at so yeah he's doing that not that there's anything wrong with unloading trucks at a grocery store but if you were in the nba right if you played with shack and penny you don't want to fucking unload groceries it's different uh so he did that he also did uh he was a package guy for federal express yeah so he was doing working in their warehouse uh he tried to open his own one-man moving company so uh that didn't work though that didn't hire me i'll come move your shit that was literally his pitch like i'll move everything i got it opening a one-man moving business is just i don't know moving your friends

it should be called grab the other end of this couch that's the name of his business that's what you'd call a one-man moving company it's called can i get a little help a little help here what a fucking disaster man what a fucking this is moving company is called can your wife hold the door for us? Does your screen door have one of those slidey things? It's a very deep cut for a moving company. I think it works. Will all your shit fit in my El Camino is a very strange name for a moving company, but it might work.

This moving company is called, going to take more than one trip. Let's try to get this done by the end of the weekend. That's a good name for a moving company. One man moving company? What the fuck is that? That's a worse idea than walking around with your cock hanging out on the street i feel like it's worse well you deliver us a pizza at lunch oh man unbelievable then he worked at for three years at a furniture store driving an unloading truck so he's like doing a moving thing, but for somebody.

They said he was good at it, too. Like he had very high ratings. The company all said like, wow, he's a great employee. But he was laid off when the store stopped delivering. Oh, that's no good. Sorry, David. Nowhere to go. Anyway, so he's got back in Orlando.

He's got no money. Taking whatever job he can. He worked at at a supermarket he worked at a furniture store he worked at all these different places trying to make a go of it and he can't really do he's like fucking imagine yeah i mean i fuck man it's not a good day to be david vaughn put it that way it's just bad i mean i feel bad for this david vaughn and the other one too but not nearly as bad as i feel for these david vaughn's fuck david vaughn director of special education and school psychologist at aberdeen school district number five in aberdeen i think it's idaho which is weird i didn't know there was an aberdeen idaho uh Vaughn, MVP at Lowe's Home Improvement. That could be our guy, for Christ's sake.

We don't know at this point. MVP? He's an MVP. I think they just call all their employees MVPs. David Vaughn, systems analyst at Kootenai Sheriff's Office in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Jesus Christ. David Vaughn, president and CEO at Treaty Oak Financial Group in Texas. One thing I don't want David

Vaughn doing is handling my money. Either of them. No, thank you. I'm good. So that's bad. And finally, oh no, two more. David Patrick Vaughn, David Vaughn he goes by, known as Law Offices of David Vaughn.

He is a very, very 34 year lawyer who represents one of the very few attorneys in America who have defended multiple NCAA cases. He works for the NCAA trying to, yeah, asshole. He represents universities, coaches, administrators, and student athletes in government and NCAA interviews, investigations, and enforcement proceedings. He's had 10 cases over 15 years, this guy. And he does a lot of white-collar crime. He was a former prosecutor who will now get your scumbag ass off probably, I guess, maybe.

But I think he's really good at it anyway. So he says, quote, I know exactly what you're going through right now because I was a client before I was a lawyer that's not the guy I want I don't know don't say anything bad because he'll probably sue us but either way David yeah NCAA is a no and

finally sounds terrible in Santa Fe New Mexico David Vaughn the asset management company again no Vaughn, the asset management company. Again, no Vaughns managing my assets. Ricky, Greg, none of them. I don't want any Vaughns managing them. Mo, none of them. Yeah, none of them.

Ricky, Greg, Mo, none of them. So problems start to arise as well. He's got two children with his wife, Brandy, through all this. And then he is arrested for domestic violence. So he's arrested for domestic violence and ordered by the court to stay away from his wife and children. So, yeah, he's got multiple arrests at this point. Two different stays in jail. arrests at this point two different stays in jail um he's on like a probation thing where he has to take drugs tests and he fails some drug tests so he gets in more legal trouble and it's just a

it's a circle now and uh the family's breaking up he says his body was really broken down at this point and everything uh he started to get depressed and um got depressed and got it was so down so low that he got to the point where he was living on the street so um living on the street he'd spend his nights in his chevy impala you know that's all he had left or he'd go to the homeless shelter when there was space available he sat on the same bench as shack yeah shack and, Shaq and Penny, man. You know, that hundreds of millions of dollars sitting next to him, and now he's doing this. Or sometimes he would sleep in his buddy's disgustingly gross storage shed.

Oh, no. As well. He said in an interview during this time, quote, I went from the pinnacle of having it all to the pits of having absolutely nothing and seeing no light at the end of the tunnel i was a mess but i didn't want to end up in hell so uh his marriage is deteriorating he's got it's a 2000 chevy impala by the way so it's 10 year old impala it's got 200 000 miles on it at this point as well it's not a collector's impala it's no no no this isn't uh you know dr dre car dr dre

on three wheels this is fucking this is a piece of shit this is a big piece of shit that uh you know the fucking cops drove rent you yeah for very cheap yeah he uh he would take showers either at the salvation army where he got free meals. They offered free meals and showers. Or he'd go to a fitness center that he still had a membership to. He had like a two-year membership or something. So he'd go there to take a shower and he'd do some stretching exercises because if you're 6'11 and living in a Chevy, you feel cramped. So he said he'd just go there for an hour and stretch

and just get all stretched out because he's fucking 6'10. You have cramped. So he said he'd just go there for an hour and stretch and just get all stretched out because he's fucking 6'10". You have to unfold. Holy shit. Believe me, when I get off a plane, it takes me two hours to unfold myself. You know how it is, dude. I'm still like I'm stretching and cramping. Open the creases. Yeah.

If I was 6'10", it'd be fucking way worse. So sleeping in a car. So, yeah, you do all this shit. He said, quote, it was a very lonely situation which yeah i can imagine yeah he ends up reconciling with his wife and we'll find out how but he reconciles with his wife and rejoins her and their two uh their two sons they were 11 and 8 at the time he said quote basically i knelt down and said a long prayer. Later, I read all of the New Testament and it gave me strength. Well, all of it, every damn page.

His wife, Brandy, said, quote, even though we may not have material things, we have the love of God, which is more priceless than that. Wow. Wow. They're really I mean, that's a good attitude, I guess, to have if you're that broke after having something. That's a good attitude, I guess, to have if you're that broke after having something. At one point, though, he's having a hard time working because at one point when he was still on the street, he ended up, I don't know where he was sleeping. I think it was the storage shed. He ended up with a bunch of brown recluse bites on his.

Oh, no. Spider bites, if you don't know spiders, but brown recluse bites on his one foot that became super infected because that's what they do brown rec they eat the tissue take your fucking foot they actually there was actual talk of amputating his leg below the knee leg to prevent him from losing the rest of his leg from preventing him losing it all um the at the same time he's court ordered to stay away from his wife but during this when she heard he was in the hospital brandy fucking court order or not came to the hospital and um got by his bedside and said you're fucking moving home you're moving

home after this we're figuring this out and that's when they reconciled and all that shit so they said they were trying to work on their relationship david said quote i made a lot of bad choices now i just want to get a decent job drive a truck be a security guard maybe coach a little i'd be happy with that life my wife struck me uh through the heart my wife stuck with me through the hard times and i'm grateful and we made it through the storm so yeah he just wants a regular he's like i just want a nine to five come home not fuck up and whatever not get eaten by spiders yeah pissing in bottles eaten by spiders living in a fucking u-story no no i can't that's that's the fucking worst man no that's terrible so um yeah he said he's still looking for work, though, because this was like 2009, which was a terrible time to be starting over because everybody, a lot of people were starting over.

We all started over. Yeah, we did. So it was a tough time. He was laid off from another job as well. That was a problem. They have a fundraiser for him. His friends and family have a fundraiser for him because he was sick with his foot to try to give him something, a little steak to start out with. He said a community activist who arranged the event said, quote, he's made mistakes that we all do as human beings.

Yeah. Even David says, quote, I have no regrets except for what I put my family through. Yeah, I would say. I'm a lot smarter now. I made it to the NBA, which was a dream of mine. I just didn't know what to do when I got there. The money doesn't last forever. It comes and goes.

I made a lot of bad choices. Now I just want to get a decent job, you know, be happy with my life. And I'm glad I made it through with my wife. So that's good. He they said that a lot of newspapers at the time were comparing him to Joe Gilliam. As you remember, Joe Gilliam, we did that guy's deal who was addicted to drugs and was living under a cardboard living in a cardboard box under a bridge for two years. Right. About 10 years earlier than from that.

So they were comparing him to him. He said, it's all my fault. I don't blame anybody. He said, quote, I bought houses that were too big and too many luxurious cars. I wish I'd have lived more simply because I'd be better off. I lived like there was no tomorrow. He said, I appreciate people stepping forward for me. It'll help me put some of my life back together. I used to come to the libraries where they did the fundraiser. I used to come to this library a lot when I had nowhere else to go. If I had any advice for the young guys coming into the league, it's to prepare for a future beyond basketball. If you're not careful, everything can disappear. Which, yeah, if you don't have 50 million in the bank, you're fucking so fast. It goes fast, especially if you're taking care of other people and, you know, you're whatever. His agent, Kyle Roat Jr.

God, juniors are everywhere. He said, we're fortunate that he's still with us. After all, he's been through the last few years. He said, a lot of guys would be dead. I've always said it's a lot harder to get out of big time professional sports than it is to get in it. You get sucked into that lifestyle and there's no easy way out, I would say. So as of 2009, he was living on $260 a week in unemployment. Oh, Jesus.

His 215,010 miles on his 2000 Chevy Impala. And that's where we go. He kind of dropped out of the news at that point hopefully he's just living a nice easy quiet life and i hope he's doing well honestly i hope him and his family are doing well man i really do i hope that is you know i hope his wife's doing well because she's been through a lot man she went from nba because they met in 97 that's when they got together so i mean nba doing well to this fucking where he went down and then she stuck with him so yeah not too shabby bites and all spider bites chewed up by brown recluses and everything uh so that's how he's going his dad's

still alive we don't know what his dad's doing his dad's one of those guys that he's a bounder man david jr's you never know what the fuck he's up to, I feel like. Jesus. I feel like he's the type of guy who, I don't know, but he's the type of personality that would have, like, 12 different careers over the course of his life. Like, now I own a carpet cleaning business. Like, where'd you get that from? You were just, you had a bakery last week. What are you talking about?

You were building fences. You were a mason. Yeah. Very strange. that from you were just you had a bakery last week what are you talking about like you were you were building fences you were a mason yeah very strange so either way can't get enough of david jr or david the third well you can get squaw virginia squires jerseys with his number on them on ebay they're fucking dope too orange, like, 70s letters that says Squires and, like, those 70s kind of, like, thick. Awesome. Really fucking dope looking, like, psychedelic looking. I'm going to buy one, James, and I'm going to take a Sharpie and write Billy over the top of it. That would be great.

Draw his head on there. Yeah. That's awesome. There's that. Or you can get an autographed David III Orlando Magic basketball card for only $14. Wow. That actually might be his autograph because he's probably, he'll sign anything at this point. But $14, I think that includes shipping is why it's $14.

So that is David Vaughn Jr. and David Vaughn III. Well, I mean, no one knows who the fuck he is unless you're an Orlando Magic freak. So there you go. That is David Vaughn Jr. and III. Hope you enjoyed. That's a lot of story, man, just to be so crazy to have. They both kind of had the same little. The same arc, yeah.

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