Crime in Sports - #304 - The Drunken Eagle - The Impulsiveness of Ed Belfour

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

This week, we head under the mask, with a hockey goalie, who is a perfectionist, a hall of famer, and a huge drunk, who causes problems at hotels, and seems very willing to fight police officers. He was a hero, wherever he played, and that seems to be part of the problem, because even judges would tell him what a hero he was, while they were sentencing him. He persevered, though. And his latest arrest was caught on video, and it's as embarrassing as it gets! All of this, while owning a company that makes whiskey! What a mess!Work your way into being a hall of famer, sharpen your own skates, and get into "a fighting stance", if any authorities tell you to leave!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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let's get to it with our superstar of the week here. It is Edward John Belfort. You know Ed Belfort, the goalie? Eddie Belfort? Ed Belfort, yes. He played for a red, white, and blue team, right? The Canadians? He played for the Blackhawks.

There's a red, white, and blue team. And black. Not blue. Red, white, and black they would be, probably. Well, it's black, yellow, and every color of a rainbow, really. But their jerseys are red, though, the black and black. Yeah, they were when he was playing anyway. So I don't know what the hell they are now.

I'm sure they've changed them up. I think they're black. They should be black probably, but they were red for years and years. So Ed Balfour, he's a goalie. I don't think we've – we've not done a goalie yet. This is our first goalie. We've done other players. Players usually in hockey, the criminals are the ones that are aggressive.

They're the aggressive skaters. The guy hanging out in the goal is usually pretty mild-tempered. Yeah, he's got to have it together. He's the anchor of the whole thing. He's the brains of this operation. Yeah, yeah. You don't see a lot of goalie craziness. But Ed Belfort breaks the mold because he's a he's a strange guy and man does he love

booze holy shit there's nothing funnier than a hockey player who loves to get drunk and go out and do crazy shit that's fun dare i say it my kind of guy he's gonna be your kind of guy i think this guy he's he's a he's a trip man he's fun so ed belfort born on apr 21st, 1965 here. He is from Carmen, Manitoba. Manitoba's in Canada. Yeah, he's a Canadian boy here, as a lot of hockey players are. Where's Manitoba? You don't know Manitoba, Jimmy? I don't know.

That's not in my geological memory. I believe Manitoba's like central Canada, if I'm not mistaken. It's not bc all the way over there or it's because then it's you got bc and then you got um what's the one next to it there alberta yeah alberta then you got um on the on the other side you got your other ones there yeah alberta is in ontario yeah no calgary is in Alberta. There you go. The only reason I know that is from Bret the Hitman Hart's ring introduction when they would say from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

I'm like, Alberta must be the province. So that's how I know it's a province. And I think Manitoba is either next to that or one more over from that. I'm not sure. This is very sad that we're connected to this country. I feel like Canadians know more about the states that are on the border of their country probably than we know. What do you know about Idaho, huh?

Tell us, Canadians. What do you got? Anything? Anything in Idaho or what? It is fascinating. I guarantee you I would estimate 80% of Americans have no fucking idea how many states are in Canada nor which

provinces, states, same thing. Same shit. percent of americans have no fucking idea how many states are in canada nor which provinces provinces states same thing same uh nor which way they line up or connect no i'll bet it's 90 name if you tell it name three canadian provinces i bet they'd have a real problem with that they've named cities i guarantee yeah toronto toronto one of them vancouver what about that i didn't uh where the expos played yeah where they speak french and shit over there that's what they would do they'd go grizzlies vancouver vancouver yeah toronto raptors if they liked hockey they might be able to get a couple actually because they're like well uh colorado used to be quebec

there's a city there we go quebec uh yeah you we go. Quebec. Yeah. I'd want all the fucking provinces. That's what I want out of Americans. We're never getting them from them. No. God, no. 90%, right? Let's all learn three. What do you say?

Let's all learn three, so at least if we're asked, name three Canadian provinces we can and we don't look like idiots. What do you say, everybody? Memorize those three. Yeah. Let's do it. How about it? Is Newfoundland one or is that a city too i think newfoundland is as a province because that's in the far east there well not the far east like china for the far east the far east of canada northeast they got a big wall there and quebec is in the eastern area and then

ontario and i don't remember what is there nine i don't even fucking remember how all right never mind before we sound even dumber i must say this you know any kind of episode our main things these are what this is what jimmy and i know okay yeah we know basketball we know football you know baseball um we know wrestling i know wrestling you know boxing pretty good with boxing and get down with boxing yeah everything else we ask that you find our ignorance charming that's what we ask as fuck because we are going to make fun of ourselves for anything we don't know we'll never be say something and then blow by it like arrogantly like well that's obviously that we don't know

and so we'll tell you i will tell you this There's not a country on earth I'd rather live than Canada. And I still know nothing about it. Why do you want to live there? You don't even know. Just because it sounds and looks fantastic. Well, it looks very clean. That's what I always... Maybe because it's covered in snow all the time.

So the snow is very clean looking. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe that's why it looks... It looks pristine because there's no footsteps because they stay the fuck inside because it just snowed always whenever you take a picture it just snowed so it always looks just what look at that it's like a norman rockwell painting up there holy shit look at that would you take a look at that so he's born in carmen manitoba he says carmen my hometown in Manitoba is very small, about thirty five hundred people. And it's kind of out away from shit. So it's not right. Yeah. He's he's kind of like a Brian Spinner Spencer there.

He was probably skating around the yard. We were always in Division B. We never got scouted much. So when you have a smaller school, obviously there'll be less less scouts. And that's every sport. I was playing high school hockey instead of midget a when i was 16 17 18 years old okay so normally i think the better hockey players when they're 16 they don't play high school anymore they play in these these leagues basically and it's like that here too i mean a lot like yeah i had a friend who was really amazing at hockey he played on the high school team for practice like that was just he didn't even care about that team he was playing on these

traveling teams that scouts actually looked at and you could go in phoenix scholarships and shit phoenix is getting crazy with hockey now there's a couple guys i don't know i don't get it i don't know a bunch of fucking rich kids you know expensive it is to ice skate in phoenix there's very little ice skating and where there is ice skating, it's obscenely expensive. To get good enough at hockey in Phoenix, you have to be wealthy. That's crazy. There's several kids, guys, grown-up men, I guess, in the NHL that are from Phoenix. Grown-up men.

Really? I guess it's grown-up men. It's not kids. No, they would not be children. That's a fact but they're in the they're in the fucking national hockey league and they uh are from phoenix it's wild that is good yeah you've all that's arizona california texas florida these are where all like baseball players and football players are from they're not that's not usually your hockey players. Your hockey boys. So Ed is a real competitive, really weird guy.

He's got a lot of personality quirks. He's got a lot of little idiosyncrasies, a lot of superstitions, a lot of weird shit with his pads, weird shit with his stick. We'll talk all about it. But he's a weird guy and he's not he's like everybody he's he's so weird that like if he wasn't so good he would be considered a fucking kook and a loon and nobody would talk to him but he's a hall of famer so they're like he's just you know these geniuses they have a you know he's got his own way about him that's what it is perhaps it's that high focus he has on things that makes him so good it It's that crazy genius focus, really, that makes him that good.

So if he didn't do that. If he stunk, it'd be like, why is he wasting his time with this shit rather than practicing? Yeah, it's like if Van Gogh was a shitty artist, he'd be a lunatic who cut his ear off like a maniac. That's all anybody would say about him. You know what I mean? He'd be that crazy guy who got wheeled away in a fucking straitjacket. But if you can paint really well, people are like, well well i mean you know he's he's got quirks i mean that's how he it's where he gets his infus his muse i don't know what to tell you instead he's a he he paints masterpieces and he's a

romantic that's what it is that's what it is he's just he's so romantic and passionate he's a painter so he's very passionate so you can understand the passion would come through in a severed fucking it's not a psycho romantic god damn it so when asked about it ed says quote about being a competitor not about uh van gogh's year not about van gogh's year he says i've always been a competitor i played basketball too in high school a guard it's he's like he He's listed at six foot. He's more like five, ten and a half probably. So guard is about where you're going to play. Although in Canada, maybe not.

That might be a power forward up there. Not a lot of NBA players coming out of Canada. That's one thing I do know. I was pretty good, but I had a lot of trouble on the court. A lot of trouble. Fighting, scrapping. He's very competitive, very focused, and gets crazy. There's one time when he freaks out on the ice,

and he's just beating the crossbar of the goal with his fucking stick, and nothing's breaking, so he goes over and he rips off the light, the goal light thing, and he's like, rip thatips off the, I think it was the light, you know, the light, the gold light thing. Rip that, beat the shit out of that till it finally broke off and he threw it. Like he's a fucking, for a goalie, he is really hot tempered. He really is. I wonder if that's how Hockey, or Happy Gilmore got his idea for being a lunatic.

Do you know what I mean? Like to write the movie. Well, there's other hockey players, I'm sure. That are like that? Yeah, yeah. We had crazy are like that? Yeah, yeah. We had crazy. Just snap? Yeah, even like, remember like Steve Durbano?

He was nuts. We had some players like that who were just considered fucking crazy that were not goalies. But for a goalie, he's considered extra crazy. Yeah. Goalies to me look like dudes that like take like three edibles and put that mask on. And they're like, that's right, baby. And they settle into the crease and they're like, mm-hmm, I get a shit put that mask on they're like that's right baby and they settle into the crease and they're like mm-hmm i get shit past me and they can like see that's

that's a goalie to me you know the edibles make the puck come slower yeah you can see like a trail of where it's coming the trajectory of it like the matrix and shit like yeah pop got it hot and you just toss it aside yeah yeah i think that's what it goes like but with him it's got to be hard to be this like fiery and jacked up and have to stay down there while she all the time yeah no doubt that would make you crazy i would think just come on come on yeah yeah come this way come this way fuck fuck there they go again god damn it all right all right they're coming back they're coming back all right come on come on you all Ball of fury on his knees like a catcher. Just getting in position, freaking out. He said, I've always been a competitor.

Played basketball, too, a guard. Was pretty good. We had a lot of trouble on the court. I also ran track and cross country. I've always wanted to win. He's busy. He's very busy, and he's busy always, by the way. He's got a lot of hobbies later on, too, that he does, and classic cars and all sorts of shit.

Oh, what? Yeah. One of his teammates said, quote, you couldn't be around Eddie without getting into a battle over something. He's always that guy. He's just always fighting and arguing about things. His mother, Alma, said the family couldn't just go fishing when he was a little kid. They couldn't just have a nice fishing outing like you would. You know, that's not happening.

She said, quote, we had to have a fishing tournament, and Eddie had to have the biggest fish or the most fish. When he played baseball, he had to strike everybody out. So that's the way he is. That's the way Ed is. He has to be the best he wants to best then yeah he wants to kick his mother's ass at fishing that's how much of a that's competitive you're like mom that's a you with your bitch ass brook trout i will fucking fuck your book

brook trout's mouth right now with this fucking giant musky I'm going to pull out of this goddamn bitch. Yeah! Take that, mom. My thanks, bitch. Watch me catch a whale this afternoon. Slaps her across the face with the fish. Take that! Yeah! Perfectionism, too.

Real weird with everything being perfect. Everybody says, as a goalie, it's actually good that he's a little wacky because he i would think a goalie is another thing where it would be a little bit good to be kind of a crazy genius at some point because or a savant to this thing you know what i mean because he's he's it's an angles thing and he has like all these weird little like theories and quirks and if you do this there's an angle that this and it keeps the key if you held your arm this way that's different than other

people it's it's strange he's a real weird guy and he claims angles are a big deal with him and uh which i would think they would be angles and you know you've got to you've got to have a certain level of of nuttiness anyway to allow people to fire fucking pucks at your face. Shoot a hardened rubber puck at 120 miles an hour at your face. That thing is so dense. It's so dense, yeah. No, absolutely. I think, though, you don't have to be smart, by the way, to be like this.

I'm talking, when I say a crazy genius, I mean in whatever you're doing. You know, like that can be. I was reading this book about the old Detroitroit lions from the 50s and 60s and they're talking about night train lane who was a he's a hall of fame cornerback night train lane he's got the coolest nickname in the history of football i think what's cooler than night train that's night train lane that sounds frightening and a one syllable last name that rhymes with that shit that's pretty dope Dick Night Train Lane get out of the fucking way man so um and he was married to like some jazz soul singer back in this like he was the coolest motherfucker around right yeah this guy and he's a real like you can't understand him when he talks he's he's a real simple kind of

a guy too like he's just this real simple kind of a cat but then they would talk about cornerbacking and he would just be like angles man and he would just be like you know i had to work my angle and this and that and that that was the problem no one knew what he was talking about but he was the best in the league at it but no he couldn't explain what he was meaning about these angles or how to do it or anything makes sense because the fastest point between yeah what the shortest distance between one point and another is a straight line. Yeah, but obviously he knew something everybody else didn't

because he was setting interception records back in the day. So he knew something, but he couldn't express it to anybody. He was just like, angles, and then he'd just shrug his shoulders and go do it. And they were like, that doesn't help. It's like a baseball player hitting a home run being like swinging better and then running to the great thanks i don't know how we can you see it's geometry and angles between the bat and the ball i get it all right i just gotta figure that out and i'm gonna be you it's like costanza hitting in seinfeld when he's showing derrick

jeter and bernie williams and he's like it's all physics my friend this and that and then he hits a fucking home run and you're like what the what the hell? You can't explain it. So he ends up playing for these, I guess it's the Midget Juniors. It's MJHL. So I think this is where he plays there. This is at 18, 19, and 20 years old. He plays for the Winkler Flyers. Winkler.

Winkler. Henry Winkler's team is on the march. I didn't know the Fonz bought a team. He did. He did. He's very much, he's very into hockey. I don't know if you knew that. I know he's into fishing because I follow him on Twitter.

Maybe that's why. Yeah, that's what the Winkler Fonzies he changed the name to later on. They did very well. So in 83-84, when he's 18 years old, he plays in 14 games. I don't have his stats. It just says how many games he played in this league here. 34 games played the next year when he's 19, 84, 85. 85-86, he's 20, still with Henry Winkler's young flying squad here.

He plays in 33 games, so he becomes their regular goaltender. In 1986, he wins the league's first uh first all uh he's on the first team all-star as a goalie and then he wins the top goaltender award as well wow so look at him yeah so he's he starts doing you know really well through it's the oh manitoba junior hockey league got it manitoba junior hockey league um so they finish in first place in 86 and you know he's doing really well but that's he doesn't know where to go now yeah what do you do so he decides college well good college a shot he's 21 yeah 21 he's going to be a 21 year old freshman he says what the fuck why not um you know i can get it weird sure why. Why not? What the hell? I got in hockey, though. It's

some of the professionals are 15. A kid in college is 21. It's a total crapshoot. So he says, quote, between high school and my one year at college, I worked in a machine shop. I fixed car radiators, gas tanks and farm equipment. And after we won the NCAA one uh I was a 21 year old freshman so believable yeah he starts at goal he goes to North Dakota is where he goes to college so I mean it's right across the border seems a lot like Canada probably yeah it's probably not far from home at least about a fish out of water story yeah well I think that's what I was saying in the middle I think that's where Manitoba is in that like North Dakota region so that would make sense if he just came down there but i could be completely wrong don't get me wrong here so he starts it's the uh north dakota fighting sue and it's in the 86 87 season he plays in 34

games and they end up winning the national championship unbelievable so he becomes now he's known now people know him because, you know, people in hockey. Freshman, yeah. Yeah, people in hockey circles know about college hockey. We don't, but, you know. No, I couldn't tell you the last five winners. No, but if you were scouting for an NHL team, you'd probably check it out, you know. Probably.

I couldn't tell you the current champion. No, no, no, no. I know the, like, Minnesota and Wisconsin teams do well in those. Okay. Because all their kids are from there. Maybe the Fighting Sioux has a storied fucking history in it. They could be like UCLA in the 60s. They could just dominate it, and we would have no fucking idea at all.

But they win a national championship. He is all conference first team, and he is all NCAA, all-tournament team as well that year. Okay. He stands out. He was a lot older than—he was as old as the seniors on the team, which was pretty interesting. He's an elderly fella, and he's still got three years to go. He's still got three years. He won 29 games that year, and the North Dakota an ncaa record with 40 wins so sick did great

um he said i stayed positive people would ask me what i was going to do and i tell them i'm turning pro and they laughed at me so he was like great so um and he's not drafted by the nhl that year at all even though he's a top goaltender. He declared for it? Oh, you don't have to declare for it, probably. They'll draft you out of fucking eighth grade. They'll draft you out of fucking Jiffy Loop. Let's go, bud. They don't care in the NHL.

If you can play, you can play. So September 25, 87, the draft is all over with and everything like that. He ends up signing a contract when they're just taking a flyer on him with the Chicago Blackhawks. So, yeah, good for him. He signs with the Blackhawks. And he plays a couple of years here in the International Hockey League. It's the minors. He plays for Saginaw, the Saginaw Hawks for two years.

It's a Blackhawks minor league team. Does pretty well. They like him. He plays in 88-89. He plays in 29 games. He's doing pretty well. They like him. He plays in 88, 89. He plays in 29 games. He's doing pretty well. And his first year, he's on the first. He's the rookie of the year in the IHL.

So is that right? I mean, that's good. I think. Yeah. Rookie of the year. And he's the first like all-star team, first team as well. So would you call this just natural, raw, fucking gifted talent? Because he's I mean, he comes in gifted talent? He doesn't know loss yet.

but there's no like you can't in the nba you're either gigantic and incredibly physically gifted or you can just jump through a ceiling like there's no there aren't you know what i'm saying like yeah these guys are like the like the 70s fat catchers of of like in baseball of hockey and sometimes they can just hit the shit out of the ball it's just one of those things you don't know why remember the fat kid in Little League? Yeah. Who was terrible at everything, but Jesus Christ, when he ripped into a fucking ball, it was gone. You know?

One of those. Yeah. I mean, our high school had a stumpy little kicker that was fat as shit for our football team, and he just kicked field goals all day. Unbelievable. Yeah. 40, 50-yard field goals in high school. goals in high school. I don't know what happened to the kid, but...

He's working at Jiffy Lube, I think. I think he's at that Jiffy Lube replacing Ed Belfort when he leaves. So he's... Yeah, I don't know if... Goalies are a weird breed. They're like this strange enigma of people.

They're behind the mask. Nobody really knows shit about them. They're weird people. Don't even know what they're like this strange enigma of of people they're behind the mask they're nobody really knows shit about them they're weird people that's don't even know what they look like don't even know what they look like yeah so i mean they're the least seen uh you know mysterious back there it's least seen most important oh christ if a goalie sucks it doesn't matter what the rest of the team's doing right it's bad so i guess they're kind of like pitchers in that way, where they can be just they have a weird talent for this weird thing, and they're super important, but they're not the same as the guys. As long as the team can muster one goal, if that goalie is unbelievable, it's fine. It's fine, yeah.

Well, 88-89, he ends up going up to the Blackhawks, and he's a rookie on the team here. This is not a very good team but they may this is so weird about hockey they have such a huge playoffs and this is before they expand it again so a lot of teams making the playoffs and not a lot of teams so a team that goes 27 41 and 12 can make the playoffs stop that they made the. Even if you add their ties to their wins, they're still not at 500. You literally win 30% of your games, you make it in. You make it in.

They beat Detroit in the first round, so not bad. Yes, 4-2. Then they win in five games over St. Louis in the divisional round. Shit. Go all the way to the conference finals here and lose to Calgary 4-1. Okay. So there you go, which is in Alberta, in case you didn't know. That was my team on Gretzky Hockey.

I loved that team. Oh, man. They were good. I loved the Flames, man. The 93 Sega Genesis NHL Hockey is the one I played all the time. Were you in the Flames, too? No, no. The Flames were good.

Yeah, Vancouver was decent, and they had a couple of good players. And then there was obviously your Pittsburgh because you had LeMieux and some guys like that. But I remember Detroit was also pretty decent on that game, if I recall. The Devils weren't bad either. That's New Jersey, right? Yeah, Jersey. That's Jersey.

So that was the last one where you could fight, and then they would bleed on the ice and kick their arms and legs that was great just terrific so that's why i know a lot of these guys names from these this early 90s hockey i'm like i recognize these names because i played that video game all the time i know this so uh chris chelios on this team yeah um it's so funny when you look down the roster they have the flag of their country of origin next to them. And it's just Canada, Canada, U.S., Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, wherever the fuck Dominic Hoschuk is from. Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, U.S. It's just all Canadians.

So Chelios is on this team. The captain of the team is Dick Graham. Jesus. I think that's the same name as the announcer for the old Philadelphia Spectrum WWF shows that were on Prism in the 80s and shit. I think that was Dick Graham, the guy who would go, woo, all the time. Woo! Dominic Hasek on this team as well. So they have two Hall of Fame goaltenders on this team.

Neither of them are shit at this point either. They're both just like a couple of hopefully somebody will work out kind of goaltenders. They're both young. I think Hasek is 26 and he's 25. Where did Hasek end up going? Christ, all over the place. He played everywhere. Yeah, Hasek played all over the place.

Who else we got here? I'm'm looking at oh oh there we go jocelyn lemieux what another lemieux jocelyn um who was a man um that i actually looked it up i'm not going to take any more shit that is claude lemieux's brother i know that for a fact that is claude lemieux's brother yes that's his actual brother not. That is Claude Lemieux's brother, yes. That's his actual brother, not married. Jocelyn. Jocelyn. This is my brother Jocelyn, exactly. Yes. Well, they're French.

What do you want? That's amazing. Yeah, I'm sure it sounds more masculine in French. Oh, Jeremy Roenick on this team as well. Oh. Yeah, there we go. I know him. Not bad.

He plays in 20, Ed does, not Jeremy Ro yeah not bad he plays in 20 ed does not jeremy roenick ed plays in 23 games uh he has four wins and 12 losses that year not too great 877 save percentage his goals allowed is 3.87 so okay that's not not good in his rookie year but he's not gonna that's not gonna make a hall of Fame career by any stretch. No, you've got to get better than that, definitely. But 90-91, the team's a lot better, 49-23-8. Oh. That is an actual good record that gets you to the playoffs

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Only on Freebie. This year, though, he's kicking ass. He plays in 74 games, which leads the league for goalies. He has has 43 wins 19 losses he has 1883 saves against or shots against i'm sorry 1713 saves a 9 10 save percentage his goals a game per game is under two and a half wow now we're talking 2.47 yeah now he's doing really well. He wins the, Jesus Christ, I fucking remembered all these. Okay, the Vizina or Vizina trophy, the Vagina trophy. The Vagina trophy is the best goaltender in the league. Is that right?

That's the Vagina. So that's the big vag you win for that. You're the big vag. You're the big badge. You're the big badge. He's also an all-star. The Jennings trophy. Fuck. Is that the one for the least goals allowed?

Or is that the one, is that the rookie of the year? But then he won the Calder as well. I think that's the rookie of the year, the Calder. Hold on. You know what? I'm going to look at the next one and see. Yeah, I think that's the rookie of the year the calder hold on you know what i'm gonna look at the next one to see yeah i think that's a yeah no the jennings is the lowest goals allowed okay uh the yeah or the highest save percentage one of those fucking two whatever it is but uh the other

one the calder is the rookie of the year award so he's literally the best goalie in the league and rookie of the year and a rookie of the year. And he's third in the Hart Trophy voting, which I believe is the MVP of the entire league. Unreal. That's that. So, yeah, great fucking year. So he's playing well. Things are going well. He bursts into the league.

I mean, he's a 21-year-old freshman. That didn't seem like it would be feasible. He wins a national championship. He says he's going to turn pro. People laugh at him. He's undrafted. Be becomes the best goalie in the minors comes up he almost wins the mvp of the whole fucking league he's the best goalie he's kicking ass he's doing great he can't fucking beat what's going on with him um he's got a legend of his that a legend in hockey a legendary goaltender that he actually really looks up to a lot as well sure who says very nice things about

him as well here so that's that's nice oh christ sorry vladislav tratea tradiak tradiak oh we know that guy i don't know who that is i don't know he seems like a russian man from the 60s and i don't know 60s hockey that well. Apparently, he was saying that at Belfort, he said that, quote, he said, quote, the first time I saw him in 1990, Belfort played for Team Canada, which we'll get into in a second. So Team Canada invited me for a promotion game, Soviet Union against Team Canada. I watched the game. I see how he approached it. Some goalies asked me, what do you try to do why i don't know why it's either you know or you don't eddie knows his

approach is one goal against is too many that's that's what i mean it's you can't remember the game it's angled i don't know i can do it and you can't that's just what it is it's how can fucking mozart play like that he doesn't know he just can't it's one of those fucking things the point is i can't let you score one goal that's it that's too many yeah a great comedian i can't tell not me but a great comedian would say i can't tell you how a fucking joke is written i don't know i do it this is the way i do it you gotta have this is what i say and they work that's all i know i say that too but i'm not a you know a legendary comedian this guy not a legendary comedian. This guy's a legendary goalie, so that's what I mean.

There you go. That's what I mean. He's got his own weird thing and he's got weird quirks. Even in the league for years, millions of dollars, winning all these awards, he still sharpens his own skates. Is that right?

Nobody does this. Nobody does this nobody does this how does that happen do you have like a sander like a belt sander or some shit fucking thing there yeah they have them right there's a room for this shit in these hockey arenas and they put a strap over your legs and you fucking drag it you just know you go on and it's like a spinning wheel and you sharpen it's like it's not an easy thing oh god an actual grinder i believe there's a grinder for some of them i've seen but i don't know if they have those in the arenas it might be by hand in the arenas i don't know i hope he's certified jesus that seems like osha would be upset about that he's doing it no they have a guy who does this this is the thing this is an equipment thing so equipment for every team in every sport is handled by not the players

they don't they don't deal with their own equipment right it's some dumpy non-athletic guy let him handle it yeah there's not fucking steph curry doesn't come off the court and make sure all the balls are inflated to proper things and pump them up for tomorrow like that's not what he does it's not his job resole his fucking shoes no absolutely not no they all of these your cleats and baseball they have guys who take them off put new cleats on do all this shit that's none of this is the guys doing it themselves. He's also crazy about his equipment. Crazy about pads. He wears this old crappy glove that he insists on fucking wearing because it's comfortable for him. He wears these pads that are fucking weird because they're comfortable to him. And I think it's superstition. Maybe. Maybe.

But, I mean, he's wearing all this old shit that no one knows what the fuck's up with him. He's the quirkiest guy in the league. If I make it to the NFL, I'm using every piece of equipment that I used on day one when I started this. I guess. Unless I started in Pop Warner. Yeah. I don't think it works that. I mean, guys have certain shoulder pads they like and stuff like that.

I know that guys will have certain ones that they're partial to or whatever, but apparently this is not normal for hockey, like the level he goes to. Hockey, your pads need to be replaced all the time. It's just the way it is. They get stinky. They break down. They're not great. They're like a pillow.

He wears them anyway. He just doesn't care. Re-fluff them or some shit i think he just stinks imagine he must reek out there wearing fucking years old pads and gloves those hockey gloves are rank inside they stink he's just got to be nasty um and he also gets in constant arguments with everybody about everything. If you bring up anything, he will disagree with you about it and argue with you to the death over it. Mr. Contrary? It's just not, yeah, he's just like that.

If there's one little thing, he can agree with you 95%, but that 5%, he'll argue to the death with you about it. You're like, we agree mostly. Shut the fuck up, and he won't do it um another thing is his helmet he becomes very famous for oh he's known as and shit no he's the eagle guy he's the one with the fucking eagle on it so he's known as eddie the eagle after this jesus everybody's eddie the eagle there he is because he always has a big eagle on his helmet is it an eagle face or is it yeah yeah eagle face different eagle things um they've morphed over the years into a different eagle um he wore but the eagle is always on his helmet they asked him

what's up with the eagle bro you know what you got going on black hawks my friend yeah there's no team called the eagles in the nhl so right i don't know if you're planning on starting one great he said quote i've always liked the eagle as a bird well that's good because that's what it is so thank god you don't like it as an elephant i've always liked the eagle as a mammal well it's not you're out of your mind thing is a dog i've always liked the eagle as a bird which that's that's the first words you're hearing from him that's crazy uh when um it is a strong figure representing individuality leadership confidence and outstanding vision it's hunting and aggression are characteristics i admire so i was thinking of what i wanted on my on my mask the eagle was a natural choice. Like a bald eagle?

That kind of eagle? Yeah, like a fucking eagle. What other kind of eagles are there? I don't know. There's fucking eagles. Big birds with feathers. There's osprey fucking eagles, too. Yeah, but we're not going to get technical. He's got a goddamn-

Is this a bird of prey? He wants everyone to see it and know it's an eagle immediately. It's a fucking eagle. Bald eagle it is, yeah. So, yeah, the natural choice. What else would you put on your thing? Most people put the team logos on and things like that. He's like, nope, eagle. fucking eagle yeah so um yeah the natural choice what else would you put on your thing most people put like the team logos on and things like that he's like no eagle eagle um it started out as

like a rough looking eagle and then it became like a kind of a like a militaristic looking eagle in dallas kind of a weird like uh it's the only way i can describe it it looks like it would be like the logo for a branch of the military or something. It's really, it's kind of aggressive. And, yeah, and it always has, like, the team colors on his chin. He, like, the chin guard deal. Yeah. He has, there's an image of the logo for the Make-A-Wish Foundation, because he's very big into the Make-A-Wish Foundation.

Very good. Helping them out, which is very cool. because he's very big into the Make-A-Wish Foundation, helping them out, which is very cool. And then he has the back plate of his helmet, highlights his passion for speed and restored cars. What are you talking about? You're in a uniform.

You don't just get to put all your interests on your shit. That's the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life. So what does he have on the back? Like a Chevy Heartbeat of the USA logo or some shit? At one point, there's a car on the back. It's a 1941 of the usa logo or some shit one point there's a car on the backs a 1941 uh car along with the lords carmen racing which is the name of belford's car customization and restoration shop in michigan oh so he gets free advertising for his fucking shop on the back of his i find the blackhawks i'm like no we're paying you now yeah we're paying you you pay us for that yeah ad

placement say buy an ad in the arena if you want to buy an ad but otherwise what are we doing here so uh but the Eddie Eagle uh thing that's Belfort's coach Mike Keenan of the Blackhawks saw him with the eagle helmet and named him the eagle so okay from then on he was the eagle he wins the gold medal in the Canada Cup as well. Really? So, yeah, with the Canadian, I don't know what team, the Canada Cup is a bunch of Canadian. Canada National Team, right? Oh, it's the Canada Cup.

It's the Canada Cup he wins and wins that gold medal but didn't play at all. What? He was on the team but didn't play. But, hey, he got a medal. Good for you. Oh, okay, I see. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there.

play but hey you got a medal good for you yeah yeah i don't know what's going on there so march 1991 he was trying to get a he's trying to reach a record for victories in a season for the black hawks he was trying to tie it so already and uh he was going for his 38th victory and um but instead he ends up setting a different record that night which is the club record for most penalty minutes by a goalie in a season what this is what i'm talking about yeah goalies don't get a ton of penalty minutes right that's what i say what one minute how what did he get once in a while they'll get in the mix of a fight or something like that but most of the time it's just not you're not bumping it on people that much so you don't get that like oh i'm gonna get you motherfuckers shit talking back and forth guys come in real quick and then they're gone like it's a different it's a different thing so uh they he received 10 minutes for a gross

misconduct that came as this was after the game by the way he got a 10 minute penalty after the game going into the next game or what yeah they lost 5-3 to montreal and he after the game was over got into a huge fight argument with referee dan morelli and um they fucking argued and all this type of shit the previous blackhawk goalie penalty record was 26 minutes holy shit that was the record 26 that shows you how little goalies end up in the penalty box. That was the team record. And he got how much? He had more than that there.

At this moment in time, in March, he had 32 minutes. That's a lot. And they say the majority of it is all temper. It's all temper things. It's him freaking out. And he said, well, let's see. That's how I am. Quote, when i was 12 years old

i used to get thrown out of games all the time it was really bad yeah so basketball hockey he's sensing a pattern here yeah arguing uh wants to fight his mom over who had the the biggest fucking yeah crappy throw down on a on a bass tournament with his mom. Yeah, this is really fucking weird. So he back then he played center in hockey and he was very angry. And he said that he's not going to not have physical play just because he's in the goalie crease. That's bullshit. I'm still a hockey player in this goalie. Sure.

In the goal here. He says, I'm a competitor and it gets intense out there there you go that's what he does so uh he's accumulated 12 minutes in roughing penalties two for high sticking two for elbowing and the 10 minute one for gross misconduct those are those penalties so far um the they're wondering if he's going to be suspended for arguing with a referee after the game and the hawks senior vice president said he won't be suspended. He may get a bigger fine than the normal automatic $100 one that goes with that penalty. That's it.

Apparently, though, it was a real – this guy, by the way, the Hawks senior vice president, Bob Pulford, hair white as a helmet it's got to be because he blamed the breakdown in the security at the arena for this not the fact that his goalie went and fucking accosted a referee after the game where's where's security to stop him the yeah they should be protecting the referee from my psychopath goalie duh jesus christ i mean we should know that referee should have stopped her on our test for going into the stands yeah that's and security where were they at well this apparently happened in the officials room in the arena like they have their own little dressing room he went oh then yes afterwards and they said he went into the like the judges chambers yeah he said there's a guard outside the official's door in every NHL arena who's supposed to bar admittance to anyone but authorized personnel.

Right. But if one of the players bursts through, who knows how they're going to handle that. You know what I mean? They work at that fucking arena. You don't want to fight with the goalie. You'll probably get fired. So, I don't know. So I don't know.

The Gary Meager, who's the NHL executive director of communications, he said players have been suspended for gross misconducts, but they're going to review it and all that. He doesn't get suspended. It's fine. So next up, 91-92, the Blackhawks are 36-29-15, and they go to the playoffs again. They beat St. Louis in six games in the first round. They sweep Detroit in the second round. Then in the conference finals, they sweep Edmonton as well. Uh-oh.

That means they're in the fucking Stanley Cup. Stanley Cup finals against the Pittsburgh Penguins. Mario LeHue and that 90s Penguins team, and they get swept by the Penguins. Yikes. Yeah, done and done and done so uh he does fine though he has 52 games played 21 and 18 is his record this year um he has 2.71 goals allowed per game and his save percentage is at 89.4 or 894 so he's down a little bit um he's fourth for the vagina award though so oh no that's impressive

um he's in the top five vaginas in the league jimmy i think that's good well when you're when your vag coughs up the fucking championship i guess yeah i guess so got swept i mean but still they made it there there's a lot of other vagas that never made it to the stanley cup there was 20 something other vaggs sitting at home that week when his was out there making a snail trail on that ice, Jimmy. Was the best Vagg playing for Pittsburgh that year? Had to be, right? Maybe.

He might have had the best Vagg. You never know. There's Vaggs all over the league, Jimmy. That Canadian Vagg I hear is really good as well. There's a lot more Southern Vagg than there used to be down there, so you got that. Out in L.A., there was good Vagg there used to be down there, so you got that. Out in L.A., there was good Vag, I hear. Terrific Vag, I've heard.

The next year, New York had good Vag. I know the Rangers in 94 had good Vag, so you never know where it came from. I'm not holding anything back, though. It could be anything. I don't know. If I'm giving away the award for best vag, it's got to be the team that scored the most and allowed the least. Well, I think it's a mathematical award, that one. Oh, really?

I think it's a least goals against kind of an award. So I don't think it's like it's not a judgment award. There's the stats. You're one, you're two, you're three, you're four. Yeah. That's how the badge award goes, Jimmy. Least shots inside it? Is that what it is?

Yeah, least shots slip past the goalie. It's exactly what it is. That's the best badge. That's the best badge going. He keeps it tight, Jimmy. That's how best badge. It's the best badge going. He keeps it tight, Jimmy. That's how it works. For the goalie who keeps it the tightest, Ed Belfort. So, yeah, this year.

Such a dervish. I think he's an all-star. Yeah, he's an all-star, too. He's an all-star badge. He's an all-star badge. I have an all-star badge, everybody. all-star too yeah so he takes an all-star badge he's an all-star badge i have an all-star badge everybody it is impressive let me tell you so stops a hockey puck it's impressive takes a licking and keeps on ticking if you know what i mean oh god how many more vag jokes can we make here i think i think we have a lot left in our in our

quivers that's probably enough to say maybe we'll save them for later because it'll come up again it's not stopping we're gonna need it every year he's gonna be in the running all the time so save your veg jokes for later everyone save your vaginas please so 92 93 blackhawks yeah they are 47 25 and 12 how about that good team they have a new coach daryl sutter this year and they go to the playoffs and get swept in the first round by st louis so hockey has the most sweeps right that happens more frequently there than anywhere else right yeah i guess i don't know statistically but it seems like there's a shitload is more than in basketball basketball are we pretty everybody always seems to get one

yeah like that home you know they take two at home and then you go back to your place you take one and then they win the other next two in in hockey though it's so frequent sometimes people bring brooms to the game to throw on the ice. You know what I mean? That's how frequent it is. It is frequent. I think also you're allowed to throw shit on the ice in hockey, which is also crazy. That is unbelievable. I mean, most of the time it's pretty soft shit, like hats, but sometimes it's brooms. You couldn't allow NFL fans to throw shit on the field.

There'd be fucking kids flying out there. Someone would throw their four-year-old at a kicker who missed a fucking field goal in an intense moment of the game. You couldn't allow NBA fans to bring brooms to the game. They would bring fucking pusher brooms and whip that bastard out there. Some asshole would drive a street sweeper right onto the fucking floor. Well, imagine when the Raiders played in Oakland. You allow that crowd to fucking throw things onto the field jesus christ they'd throw like chiefs fans onto the field it'd be a mess

take this son of a bitch with you back to kansas city so uh this year 92 93 he is dominating 71 games played 41 wins 18 losses he's crushing it man uh 90 or 906 save percentage 2.59 goals allowed he's got the most minutes of any goalie he's he's crushing it he's an all-star he wins the vagina trophy again he takes home the golden vagina ah the most prestigious golden vagina award that's tremendous he is the big beef he's the big beef and he takes home the jennings award as well which i believe is the best goalie or some shit i don't know that no that's the best save percentage right the vagina award is the best goalie i believe that's the coveted one that's the coveted the badge is the coveted award and they vote to see who gets

the badge too you can't just hand that out the jennings is the one i believe that goes just by your percentages that's your how that works just hand it out to anybody you got to be worthy of the badge jimmy remember remember that one line the world doesn't owe you pussy you got to go out there and work for it and that's what it is you gotta earn. That goes for the badge as well. You got to earn that badge. So he takes his golden badge into 93-94 where they're 39-36-9. That is the team record. 87 points total for them in the standings. First round, they lose again to the Maple Leafs 4-2. two so oh damn it got a lot of first round bouncings here that's not great for morale uh he has 70 games played 37 wins

24 losses he seems to be doing pretty well same exact save percentage as the year before so he has kind of the same kind of year he's's an all-star again. But he's seventh in the vagina voting. Oh, no. So, yeah, he's dropped. I mean, he's so far back in line, it's not even worth it by then. You know what I mean? Six guys ahead of you. It's going to be a mess by then.

You don't want any part of that. No one does. There's going to be Dominic Hoschuk up there. Patrick Waugh is going to be doing weird French shit. You don't want any part of that. Oh, no. You don't want any part of that. Oh, no. You don't want any part of that, man. It's a disaster, all this vagina.

So he does have seven shutouts, though. He leads the league in shutouts the last three years. He had five in 91-92, seven last year, and seven this year as well. I love those. That was one of the things that the, what's his name, the Russian guy was talking about, the other goalie, he was saying that's how. Hachik? No. Tikit.

Drazik? Yeah, him. That guy, you got it. Yeah, he's got a shelf full of golden vaginas, so you got to listen to him. All of their names sound like a terrible villain. They do. They all sound like a villain. All of them sound like they have a nuclear weapon that they bought on the black market.

They're holding some city hostage. Yeah. But he was saying all those nice things he said was when he was asked about why does Belfort get so many shutouts and other goalies don't. And he was saying, well, because for him, he's not looking to win two to one. Every goal is life and death for him. That's right. He's out of his him he's not looking to win two to one every goal is life and death for him that's right he's out of his mind he's looking to win one nothing yeah he doesn't care if it's one nothing he shouldn't give up more than one he shouldn't give up any that's the way he looks at it because if he's like if i play perfectly i don't give up any if i give

something up it's because i made a mistake which is my fault and i should have been doing it better. So fascinating. He's taking ownership for mistakes now yet on this show. That's the thing. He takes ownership of on the ice stuff. Always off the ice. Not so much. And kind of doubles down on his entire reputation and everything else. It's a disaster. We'll get to it.

So where do you see this? So the second half of this is, is fast and free with all sorts of crazy drunken debacles. Oh, boy. So 94-95 Blackhawks, 24-19-5. Was there some kind of fucking strike that year or something? Lockout or something. Must have been.

Hockey has tons of lockouts. It's constant. It's constant. I'm sure there was. Because I think the highest salary in the league is like, what, 68 grand a year, I think they make about that. I think that's. no, they don't. Maybe a regional manager of Jiffy Lube's salary.

Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. They don't. They make more than that. Sometimes, actually, hockey contracts are really long. They'll sign goalies to fucking 15-year contracts and shit for tons of money. But hockey isn't – I don't know what kind of revenue they have. They don't really – they're not on TV that much.

They generate fine elsewhere, but not in the U.S. Northern states, U.S., they do great. I like the Red Wings. They crush it. They're loved up there. New York. Yeah. Yeah, the Rangers, if they're good, then people will give a shit about them.

Sure. The Islanders probably in the 80s when they were good in the early 80s. But I don't know. So 94-95, they go to the playoffs. They do have playoffs, so if there's a lockout, they have playoffs. Playoffs. They get revenge on Toronto this year,

winning a seven-game series in the first round. Next round, they sweep Vancouver. My goodness. And then they go to the conference finals against the Detroit Red Wings, Chicago, Detroit. A couple old school teams here. And they lose 4-1. Oh, no!

Five game loss in the conference finals. They do not go to the Stanley Cup finals. He only played in 42 games. That's because there was only a few that many games. 42 games he played in. He's 22-15. And exact same save percentage again 906 that's incredible that's incredible that's unbelievably consistent that's un it's fucking incredible i don't even

know that two years in a row 903 three years in a row 906 906 not 90 you know 907 902 906, not 90, you know, 907, 902. 906, that's fucking.0, wow. He's a very specific man. Wow, that's very specific. He has only 2.28 goals per game allowed as well. So that's fucking damn good. He is number one in the Jennings, so he wins the Jennings. That's good. Now let's see if he wins it.

The coveted Golden Vagina number two. He does not win the Golden Vag. That let's see if he wins it. The coveted golden vagina number two. He does not win the golden vag. That one's not so bad. Someone must have had an amazing year at goalie. I'm telling you. Probably the winner. Yeah, the winner, I would assume. But he can jump on the other side probably.

I don't think anyone will mind. It's okay. We'll slip in the black door next year. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah, well, he's also on deck. He's slip in the black door next year. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah, well, he's also on deck. He's coming in the back door. He might be around front.

You know, maybe they'll visit the Eiffel Tower together to show off the trophy. We don't know. Anything could happen, Jimmy. Spit roast that thing. So, 95-96, Blackhawks. Yeah. 40-28 for this team. 94 points they have in the standings.

They sweep Calgary in the first round and go to play Colorado in the next round and lose in six games to Colorado. So what are you going to do? What year was that, though? 93? That was 95-96. They just did this. So 95-96, they lose Colorado. That's when I think they had Patrick Waugh and all that, too.

Yeah, the Avalanche was really good there for about three, four years. Well, they came from Quebec and just kind of they pumped money into them and made them a lot better. I remember that. And Colorado embraced the shit out of them because it's a frozen thing. Yeah, it makes sense. Colorado's frozen as fuck. Yeah, fuck yeah. It makes sense to have hockey there.

Absolutely. Quebec had sweet uniforms, though. That was a shame that Quebec went away. They're fucking, the Nordiques, they were badass. They had the baby blue. They had the fucking, what's that thing? The French, I don't know. Fleur de Lis.

Oh, Fleur de Lis, yeah. Yeah, they had that on there. It was sweet fucking news. What the hell is their mascot? What is that? They were the Nordiques. I don't know what the fuck that is. Is that a fucking boat?

There's a Q in it, so it's definitely French, and I don't know anything about it. But that's, they were the Nordiques. I don't know what the fuck that means. Is that French Nordics? And that's like, their mascot is just blonde hair, blue eyed, pale skin fucks? So they're like French Vikings is what you're saying? I'm not sure. I'm not positive.

Who knows? So anyway, January of 96, though, during this season, there's a new goalie around, too. They got as a backup here. A guy named Jeff Hackett. And apparently, basically, Hackett's a younger guy coming up, and they're talking about how him and Belfort are going to fucking play. And apparently this guy had a real hot streak, Hackett, and kind of for a little while, because as we see, he only played in 50 games this year, Belfort. So they said Hackett kind of became equal co-starters. They weren't.

Beautiful. Yeah. In hockey and goalies, you have to give them a night off every once in a while. So rather than that, he was coming in and playing more and more, and it was like, that's really weird. Fresh legs at goal? That's awesome. It's awesome, but Ed's not real thrilled about it, I guess, to share the position.

How am I going to get the Vag? I can't get the Vag. What, I guess, to share the position. How am I going to get the vag? I can't get the vag. What, am I going to share it with you? No, the vag is a one-man operation, pal. I'm not doing it. So Hackett, though, the rookie here, he said, quote, Eddie's still our number one goaltender. He's the best in the league.

I don't want him to slash my throat either with his skate, so that's another thing. So Belfort said, quote, or Belfort's been doing, they said he's been nice to him, Hackett. either so with his skate so that's another thing so uh belfort said quote um you know he or belfort has been doing they said he's been nice to him hackett he's not treating me like shit or anything hackett said he's been very supportive deep down he's really happy for me he knows what i've gone through maybe he's even a little proud of me he wants to kill you probably but he hates you let's be honest uh but belfort says all the right things he says quote i see how much work he's put into it and that's where i come from he's always asked me for advice

and i've always helped him that's hard to find in professional hockey because you're competing for a position so um yeah it's you don't see that in a lot of sports, honestly. No. When you think like, if you like football and your football team drafts a rookie quarterback and you have a veteran and you're like, oh good, he can learn under this guy. No, no, no, no. That guy won't talk to him. He's not teaching him shit. Yeah, they're not friends. Not teaching him a fucking thing because he's trying to take his job.

So why the fuck are you? That's the thing about that yeah in all sports it goes for that yeah very strange it's a very weird they're in a very uh specific competition yeah nobody else it's a two-man run exactly the winner gets the place that's it the the honestly the one where it's a little bit different is baseball because in baseball you will have your your whole lineup will share hitting tips and pitcher tips on the pitcher and shit with each other because they're playing different positions so they're not in competition with each other they're starting

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stepped up and he was doing really, really, really well. Yeah, there was a lockout that year. And he said, I think the lockout helped him, Hackett, the new guy. He said, I needed a break from hockey. I wasn't happy with not playing and I wasn't happy with my own game. Just to get away from it and help coach a high school hockey team,

I found out hockey was supposed to be fun. He said, I worked hard on my conditioning and techniques during the lockout and I came back a refreshed person. And he said also that he's borrowed all of his techniques from Ed Belfort. Basically, he's been trying to imitate Ed Belfort. That's all he's doing. I mean, yeah. If you're a shooting guard, you're imitating Michael Jordan.

So it makes sense. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And it's nice that Ed's nice to him. In the NBA, sometimes a team won't draft a guy because, well, maybe not now so much because everybody's friends with the other team, for Christ's sake. Never mind the guys on your team. But in the 90s, they'd have a guy and they'd go, oh, no, no, no.

That guy will eat him up in practice. They'll never want to play again in six months. We can't draft him. They'd say that about rookies all the time with the Bulls. They can't draft anybody who'd be under Jordanordan because jordan will just ruin them in practice destroy them yeah on purpose and just fuck they won't even want to play ball anymore in a year and a half so they're like fuck it then so that's why you never had any any good fucking like scorers being drafted for the bulls that around when jordan was there because he would crush him in

practice but this is different. That's why they drafted Corey Blunt. He's a forward anyway. But yeah, they drafted, they got like Randy Brown and guys like that who weren't threats to Jordan. Who Jordan wouldn't eat up for trying to be like him.

So Hackett says, I've been able to watch Eddie for two years and see the different techniques he uses to stop the puck. It works for him. And shoot, he's won two vagina trophies, so I'd better watch him and try to incorporate some of it into my own game. I'd like my own vagina, please. Please.

Please. So this whole deal, the next year, 96-97, he ends up getting traded halfway through the year in january what starts in chicago and because this other goal he's playing so well bell for becomes an expensive luxury yeah this is what it is and he's you know the other guy's younger and that's how it works so they trade him to san jose oh boy put on that teal buddy yeah get up there and then oh that how different is that well how different is that chicago blackhawks old time original you know all this old hockey tradition and the fans that have been generations they've been watching it and then san jose yeah a little different send you to californ Not that California. No, no, no.

Over there. He may love this like you and I would probably love this. It's nice. You know what I mean? Hoodies and jeans on the beach is fantastic. It's great. But wear this teal is kind of embarrassing. We're going to give you black and silver and teal. Teal.

What do you think of teal? So he's traded to San Jose for Ulf Dahlin. Yeah. And there's an accent on the E, so I don't know how that works. I will never, never get that. Oof. His name is Ulf, though. There's another Ulf in the league.

And Michael, without the E, just an A. Mike. Oh. Mikal. Mikal. Mikal Sikora. I'm sure he's not from. I'm sure he's good. From North America. And Chris Terreri. sure he's not from North America.

And Chris Terreri. So he's traded for three players, which seems pretty cool. After he's traded for three players, at the end of the season, he does not re-sign with San Jose. So he's like a rent-a-player. No kidding. Yeah, it looks like maybe they were dumping. That's it.

So he signs as a free agent with the Dallas Stars. Uh-oh. Yep, goes down to Dallas. And they have quite the team down there in Dallas, 97-98. They, what are they, 49-22-11, 109 points. Yeah. Damn good. They beat San Jose in the opening round.

Oh, that'll sting. Take that. In six games. damn good they beat San Jose in the opening round take that in six games then in five games they beat Edmonton in the semifinals conference finals they're against Detroit and they lose in six damn it can't get past can't get over the hump it's a good showing for him

61 games played he has a 9-16 save percentage so he upped his game even that year. 188 goals against allowed. That's wild. That's under two. That's crazy. That's so good.

But not good enough to win him the coveted Golden Vagina. What the fuck? He's fourth. I don't know. Who was having better years? Fourth. Who was more golden than his vagina. I don't know. Who was having better years? Fourth. Who was more golden than his vagina? I don't understand.

Was the league stacked with big pussies that year? I think it was stacked with a bunch of guys who had very tight records. I think that's what it was. They were known for keeping a tight goal. It was a rise in shape around that time. That's what it is. There was no room around him. He couldn't squeeze anything in.

It was really... Keeping him nice and tidy back then. Tidy and tight. That's how it works. And he's 15th in the Hart Trophy voting, so there's that. 98-99 for Dallas. This is their 51-19-12. 114 points.

That is crushing it. They go to the playoffs. They sweep Edmonton in the first round. They beat St. Louis in six in the conference finals. Then Colorado or in the semifinals. Conference finals, Colorado goes all seven this time.

They beat Colorado here. How about that? Go to the Stanley Cup finals against Buffalo. There this time. Wow. They beat Colorado here. How about that? Go to the Stanley Cup Finals against Buffalo. Yeah. There we go. Buffalo. That's another good uni. Yeah.

Oh, they got cool uni. Sabres are cool as shit. That's a good blue. And that yellow with the blue, that's sharp shit. Big logo on the chest, too. Yeah. It's fucking huge. It's sharp.

Those are sharp. They win the Stanley Cup Finals in six games. How about that? So he gets his title here. Look at him. He is the champion, doing very well. He played in 61 games, had a 199 goals against, so kept it under two. Kept it nice and tight, see?

I'm telling you. 9-15 save percentage. He's an all-star. And what is this he's a seventh in the vagina voting though what how can you win the stand i get that they probably do the vagina voting before the player the playoffs don't count like the mvp and other sports but seventh that's crazy it's crazy and he's he wins the jennings though so he gets He's going to have to vajazzle this thing to win. That's what I mean. He's really, you've got to fucking spruce it up, I think.

You've got to pay some attention to it. I think you spruce it up a bit. I don't know what it is. But, man, he's got how many? One. He's got two golden vaginas so far. That's not bad. It's not bad.

A couple second place finishes. Not bad. So it's so cool for him being, he's the star goalie on the winning team and like for a goalie they have the most pads helmet you can't see them they're just these little figures back there he gets to be on an espn commercial what remember how they would do silly commercials back then with you know the linebacker terry whatever the fuck well they would do like the ones with like mark mcguire looking for like one of the broadcasters and he's like hiding under a desk. It was like the sportscasters interacting with players in uniform.

The players would be just like hanging around the office. These were a series of commercials for how the stars spent their day with the Stanley Cup. So it was like those silly things and for ed belfor they had him on a uh on an amusement park ride like a like the teacups almost spinning around to it yeah he's spinning around on this thing and there's two people dressed like they're like you know officials of the nhl that are keeping an eye on the trophy next to him and they look like they're going to throw up and he's cackling and yelling faster faster, faster. So that's Ed Belfort. But he's a goalie that's on a fucking commercial.

How many goalies are on national commercials? I'm going to say it. Stanley Cup champion, two golden vaginas, and on a commercial. Grace. This is Grace. Absolutely Grace. So Ed, though, says that now he's calmed down a lot. That's the thing.

People are saying, what's up with new Zen Eddie here? Like he's like now he's like he's lost his anger a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. He's a different person. He's calmer. Everybody said he doesn't, you know, he's not going to explode all the time. It's really weird.

Is it just maturity? Like, what's going on here? Is he on medication? What's happening? His coach, Ken Hitchcock, said he's calmer on game days, but that's about the only difference. He still carries an extreme personality that's based on his drive for competition. He's very demanding of himself and his teammates. Great.

So when he gets in the crease he's a little chilled out though but you don't want to practice with him still trust me that's what he said he's got intensity yeah don't worry he's still nuts but he's just figured out how to not have a heart attack on the ice that's all so um yeah he uh he's a big shiny vag that's raging He's a big, shiny vag that's raging. He's big and shiny. Every month he's ragging. Ah, just ragging.

So they said that the calm has helped him in the pressure of the Stanley Cup finals and all that. And he said, this is Hitchcock, the coach. I just think he proved to a lot of us that Eddie is Eddie. Wow, that's really profound, man. Eddie's Eddie, huh? He is Eddie. Wow, that's really profound, man. Eddie's Eddie, huh? Eddie is Eddie. Whoa, man. He might show things a little different now. There might not be the overflow of emotions there once was,

but the Ed Belfour that is focused and determined and driven, that's the Ed Belfour we've always had, and that's the Ed Belfour we expect. You bet. Yeah, goddammit. The star strength and conditioning coach said, quote, he's an honest guy who wants an honest answer and gives an honest effort. And on that front, he hasn't changed a bit.

I mean, he's calmed down some, maybe focused his energy better. So that's what he does here. They said he's doing, like doing good deeds for the team. He volunteered to help the Stars. Basically, he was supposed to have a night off because he had a long run. But then another guy was injured, so one of their scorers was injured. So he's like, hey, I'll play. Let's not put us down a goalie and a Star scorer.

I'll play another game until he comes back and all that. How about that? Took that on his day off. His coach said when he did that, he showed a lot of leadership, and he showed the team how much he cares about winning. Hell yeah. There you go. Ed said, quote, I've had a lot of success here in Dallas,

and I'm really happy about that. Maybe all those years of hard work and not winning the cup made me more hungry, and it's starting to pay off. There we go. He's hungry, Jimmy. He's also very thirsty this year, we'll find out. Very thirsty. 99-2000, Dallas goes 43-23, 10-6.

How the fuck is there another column now? 44. 43-23, 10-6. That's too many. Yeah, what is that? Too many. I don't fucking know. They have 102 points. I know what those are, so that's many. Yeah, what is that? Too many. I don't fucking know. They have 102 points.

I know what those are, so that's fine. Ties and something else? I don't fucking know. Ties, maybe overtime wins is that possibly? Pushes? Pushes? I think it's a push. Replays, redos, I don't know.

Do-overs maybe? Six do-overs. Is that their own? They think those are the asterisks? Yeah, six no-fairs is what they had. No-fair do-overs. Is that their own? They think those are the asterisks? Yeah, six no-fairs is what they had. No-fair do-overs is what they called them. Snow delay? Snow, yeah, I think that's maybe like an ice storm happened.

Yeah. So this year they go to the playoffs. Five games they win against Edmonton. They beat San Jose in five games. Conference finals against Colorado again. again oh here we go and they win in seven going to the finals again going to the stanley cup finals where they play the new jersey devils look at that they play the devils and lose in six to the devils so yeah ed didn't have a great uh series either and he wasn't real thrilled with it we'll talk about that in a second um so

that year though the fans loved him like i said he's riding high from the stanley cup he has a 2.10 uh goals allowed but he's a 919 leading the league in save percentage so that's pretty good uh he's 15th in the heart trophy voting fourth 4th in the vagina trophy. What's a guy got to do to get some badge around here? You know what I mean? Jesus Christ. What can you do? He's so good and yet be so far down the line. I don't understand it.

It's ridiculous. He is first in the hearts of the fans of Dallas, though. They have a... This was the time in 2000 when George W. Bush was running for president here. And he was the governor of Texas. And so they had a lot of, like, he was coming to games to try to pump up Texas people anyway, or to get his name out there on a national look. This is on TV going out there.

So they had a giant, some fan put out a gigantic fucking sign that people would bring all the time that said Belfort for president. So people wanted... They loved him that much, goddammit. Right in George's face. He's a Canadian, so that's not going to happen. But still, goddammit, he's doing it. 2000-2001 stars. They are 48-24, 8-2. Jesus Christ.

106 points. They beat Edmonton in six games in the first round of the playoffs. They lose. They get swept by St. Louis in the semifinals. So, they're out. The run's over. This year, though, he let's see, what does he have? A 9.05

save percentage. 234 goals against. He's an all-star, but he's 11th in the vagina voting. Oh, yeah. He's falling off don't even show up man yeah don't even show up bro it ain't worth it you're not gonna get a sniff of this thing so he it's it's not worth it man i'm telling you just go home go home bro so what does he do in his spare time this guy he's he's nuts he's on the ice he's doing all this crazy shit in his spare time he uh he collects and rebuild classic cars, which he has a shop that does that, so that makes sense.

And he also has a pilot's license. Stop it. He has a private pilot's license. He flies planes. He needs to do dangerous shit. He's fucking crazy. And he's also a triathlete. He's running triathlon.

He's doing triathlon. Not running, because there's multiple things, but he's doing triathlons as well running swimming and biking in that right yeah and then a shooting and then um is that oh really there's cross country then you gotta jerk a guy off at the end of it and whoever gets whoever gets the load first wins an elephant and then you win the vagina award is how it works so it's pretty good to get a handful of jizz and throw it at a cow's uterus well you throw it and it's got to freeze in the air turn into snow and then that's when you win you throw it up in the air as it falls down you go bingo and that means you won jizzo and you win i think that's how it works i don't know i'm not an expert you got to get a jizz sickle inside the inside the female cow i believe that's how it works i

don't know in canada it'd probably freeze so yeah i can grow up on a ranch you're gonna have a heated barn or something otherwise that cow's never getting knocked up, right? So the Dallas GM says, we still love him. He's the best. He says, quote, I see Ed Belfort's style is really one of going to war against the other team's offense. It's a battle of skill and a battle of will. And if you watched him closely in the games, really focus on him, you can see the tremendous concentration and the ease that he handles the routine stuff and then the ferocious attack when he's being attacked with the things

that are terrific shots or that the ones that give the goalies the most trouble his whole sentence structure really fell apart there toward the end he was doing great with skill and will it was all rhyming and everything yeah battle of it's a battle of skill and a battle of will. I was like, all right, this guy's on it. Oh, look at this guy. Handles the routine stuff. Then he uses the word attack twice in four words. He's a mess after a while there.

He had a stroke halfway through that fucking sentence. Sounds like a Fred Durst lyric. Yeah. It's a battle of will and a battle of skill. Attack when they attack his attack and then he can't just say is to someone smell toast is there toast in here i'd like toast you know anybody taste almonds is that what that is what that is it's a fred durst lyric that's hilarious put a red hat on that guy

slap a fucking hat on him. See what he's got going on. Friends with method, man? Come on. So everything's going well for Ed. Yeah. He's known as a little crazy. He's a little out there.

But it's like I said, at this point, it's more quirky. It's just this genius thing. So March 8th, 2000, he is at the Mansion on Turtle Creek. Oh, no. Which is a hotel, spa, rich guy thing in Dallas. Okay? Okay. So he's hanging out there.

It's shortly after midnight on a Wednesday when all good things happen. Yeah. Midweek, midnight shit. When you hear middle of the night and crime and sports athlete, you know something bad's coming. You just know it. It's not like then he saved a kid from getting hit by a car. Nope, that's not what happened. Midweek, midnight, you're supposed to be resting. Yeah. No, this would be like, no, we expect like then he kicked a kid in front of a car yeah not he saved so he should be resting but he's not so the mansion on turtle creek uh he and a woman arrived there shortly

after midnight hey everybody he's got a lady he's recently divorced by the way so hey ed's that's getting on out of the town you're a champion and you're single go out there and get you some my friend newly single and a champion fucking you're single. Go out there and get you some, my friend. Newly single and a champion? Fucking flex it, sir. The vag keeps passing you by. What are you supposed to do? So he does that. He appears intoxicated, so much so that hotel security escorted him to the room.

Like, we'll help you get to the room. Oh, no. Like, he's that much of a mess where he needs help to get to the room yikes with this young woman um apparently when they get into the room he uh was intoxicated very intoxicated very loud in here with this woman and apparently this woman said that he was groping her like violently or not like you know against her will obviously and uh i guess any groping against the will would be violently groping but i mean not not hurting is what i meant like no there's no bruises he's not like take that titty twister bitch like there's none of that he's it's it's sexual aggression which is just as scary so um anyway she calls security of the hotel to help her. She calls for help.

So this employee comes. He calls other employees for assistance. And I guess this was before they got in the room. I'm sorry. This was before they ever got in the room, Jimmy. Pawing in public? Yeah. He was groping her.

She was calling for help on the way into the room. Oh, God. I misunderstood this. So they're doing all this. It's room 303. The hotel employees decide, we'll still take you to your, we'll take them to their room, even though there's like they had to intervene before they even got in the room. Right.

They decide, because he's at Belfort. I mean, you know, hey, we're not going to interfere with this. Two golden badges and everything else. So they, Stanley Cup. hey, we're not going to interfere with this, two golden badges and everything else. So they, Stanley Cup, so they escort them to room 303. On the way to the room with the hotel staff, she then says that, you know what, I'm scared of him and I don't want to go. I've changed my mind.

So once they get Belfort to the room, an employee escorts the woman out of the hotel and gets her in a cab and gets her out of there so this is not the story you thought was going to happen problem solved you thought in an hour she was going to call and say that he raped her and all that but that's not what happened actually uh luckily for her she's in a cab she gets away fine ed is still in the hotel with the employees though and now he's furious oh boy is he drunk and mad. He thought he was getting laid, and he's not. You just took my opportunity away, you bastards. That's what he starts doing. He starts blaming them. He hears that.

He's like, well, where did she go? And they go, well, we put her in a cab. So he goes, fuck that, and starts walking toward the elevator to go down there and chase after the cab on foot, I guess. I don't know what he's going to do. He is a triathlete. You never know. He might catch it. So he became very angry.

One of the employees tried to calm him down. Said, hey, man, let's just calm and chill, and we'll go back to the room. And I know you've got a nice suite here. You're going to be, shit's going to be lovely, man. Kick back. Try the bed out. It's beautiful. Get some room service.

There's a tub in there you would not believe. You're a goalie. You probably want your muscles in a jacuzzi in there. It's going to be great. Instead, what he does is Belfort turns, grabs the man by the lapels of his sport coat, and slams him into the wall of the hallway, then throws him to the ground, tumbling on top of him because he's shit-faced. That's assault.

That's assault. So he's on top of the employee employee now has him in a headlock he put the guy in a headlock this man this is a 50 year old man by the way too you're a professional athlete not that 50 is old but it's not an even matchup for a 31 year old professional athlete you know what i mean like you're a 50 year old hotel worker you're not ready to get in mortal combat with a pro athlete right now. You're just not one. I don't want it. Fuck no. You know, no, absolutely not. So they are, um, doing this by the way, before they went to the ground, he slammed him pretty hard into the wall. By the way, they go to the ground. He's got him in a headlock while he still has him in the headlock police three police officers arrive there you go

to hotel employees standing around while ed belfor shit-faced drunk has one of their own in a headlock on the ground in the middle of fucking floor three of this nice hotel holes in the drywall of the walls perfect this is going great everything's going great so they said uh let him go and ed said fuck no i'm keeping this grip on this bitch i'm not letting it go this motherfucker i'm going to take his head off with this then he kicked at one of the officers as the officer tried to come closer to him to you know physically remove him so they said okay and maced him now think about the mess this is in a fucking hotel hallway with three hotel employees a bunch of cops and people in their rooms now the whole hotel hallway and the poor guy on the ground oh it's all maced up front of it too everyone is dying right now this is

terrible but it was the only way to get him to stop, I guess, unless they wanted to physically beat the shit out of him, I guess. So they do. They spray him with the mace. There's that. They never find out the identity of his companion, the young lady there, because she had taken off. Yeah, because she's smart. Yeah, I would say so. So they sprayed him with mace.

At that point, he lets go of the headlock, and he's a little more cooperative once he's trying to rub the mace out of his eyes. But likely more pissed off. Oh, he's pissed off. He's just so drunk. He's not really coherent as to what's going on. He's not going A to B. And he's like, you know, he's doing like the old small town murder, ABQ cookies, like ABCQ cookies. He doesn't give a fuck.

He's just doesn't know what's happening. So he is, this is according to the police report, quote, was placed in the rear seat of the vehicle and was seat belted when he began attempting to lay down in the seat and putting his cowboy boots on the radio console. He's wearing cowboy boots. And they don't have like a cage in this car. This is like an open car, which is strange as well. Got his cowboy put up in the middle up in the middle on the radio console so the police tried to remove his feet from the console and they said he began to kick wildly and jerking away from them and then when they got his legs he spit in an officer's face oh you bastard he spit right in this guy's face this guy's got to be like you motherfucker like how annoying is it respectful to go to a hotel to have some drunken rich asshole

who doesn't even want to go to his beautiful suite that you can't afford and you have to mace him get him in the car and then he's being a dick fucking with your equipment that you're gonna get blamed for if it breaks and then you're like dude stop and he spits in your face you're like this motherfucker and he's a famous guy yeah and he's famous you're like i can't even you know do anything he's famous this is crazy so um what they do at that point is they attempt to cuff his ankles in the plastic straps yeah and he struggles and kick two of the officers in the chest at that point as well. So goalies have strong legs. Yeah. And this guy's got cowboy boots on them.

Holy shit. And he's kicking them. It took four officers to get the straps around his ankles. Boy, those straps around your ankle. He's drunk and strong. One of the officers was trying to get him to sit him up, and he jerked backwards. He fucked the guy's thumb up in some way when he was trying to get him to sit up so that was the extent of the injuries to the officer somehow though uh is like a hyper extended thumb and he didn't want to go to

the hospital or anything like that he's like no no i'll look like a pussy i can't do that i will certainly win the big batch award Award for that. Oh, absolutely. Big Batch Award. So he eventually, they get his ankle secured in the cuffs, but he won't stop jerking around. He's like a fish. He's a fish out of water right now. And he's pissed. Yeah. So finally they get him restrained.

He's restrained now. Now he begins begging the officers not to take him to jail now he's complete yeah completely switched from violent fuck you this is such a drunk thing to do then he goes to come on guys please really i'm sorry i'm sorry you're sorry we both made mistakes you can use my shirt to wipe the spit i don't it's okay it's okay When we get there, I'll wash your face for you. I'll show you my golden vaginas. You want to see them? I got them in the house.

They're right there at the house. And now you can have my boots. He's begging them, please don't take me to jail. Please don't take me to jail. Then he says, I'll tell you what, guys. Yeah, I'm going to barter. If you don't take me to jail then he says i'll tell you what guys yeah i'm gonna barter if you don't take me to jail yeah i'll give you a hundred thousand dollars you could split it he said that dollar figure a hundred thousand dollars i'll give you a hundred thousand dollars and they were like no

we still have to take you to jail we've called this in it's been pretty everyone knows about it now ed there's no way to just be like oh we lost him on the way we decided to cut him loose after he kicked us and spit in our face and we actually breathalyzed him and he's fine so weird it was just a totally aberrant behavior we don't know what it was so a hundred000, and they said no. That's a fun number. Fun number, 100 grand. So he continues to beg.

How's it sound? I'll give you $100,000. What do you make a year? I'll give you more. I think, yeah, you each make 50. I'll give you $100,000. You could take a whole year off. It's a vacation.

Your kids could go fishing. It's so fun. Come on. I'll give you a two-year salary. You don't work. Come on, bro. So they say no. He begs a little bit more.

Come on, this is going to fuck me up. I don't want to go to jail, blah, blah, blah. They say, no, no, no. And he says, okay. now listen. Okay. I know you said no to the hundred, but what if, hear me out. What if I gave you a billion dollars? He said a billion? A billion. He did? you a billion dollars he said a billion a billion he did a whole billion just a bit with with a b he said it i'll give you a billion dollars he said a billion dollars what a drunk thing to say i'll give you a billion dollars i have you know i'm a goalie

I'll give you a billion dollars. I have you. I'm a goalie. If I were them, I'd take it and hold them to it. Yeah. Yo, it's a billion dollars, chief. How are you going to pay that back? I got it on tape, motherfucker.

I'll give you a billion dollars. Word is bars. Maybe it was like a Dr. Evil thing that was in his head because this is Austin Powers times. Maybe he was like, billion. That's a lot from that movie right i'd lift my hand and put my pinky to my mouth but i can't do it i'm cuffed because i because i like to spit and stuff so he said a billion a billion dollars i'll give you a billion dollars there was like seven billionaires on the planet at that time and he ain't one of them no absolutely not and i don't think any of them would have given a billion to get out of a minor assault charge against a hotel employee it'll cost less to deal with this way less a billion a hundred thousand is at least realistic he could get a hold of that probably and maybe

do it but a billion dollars i thought he was gonna say like i'll give you a custom car i'll give you this what do you think how do your kids like hamburgers i know a guy owns a place i'll get you coupons for the gift certificates and stuff a billion dollars for disorderly a billion dollars in hamburgers i'll give all of you that's how much he knows that this is gonna hamper shit in his life this is not gonna be a billion dollars is worth it look i just get me out of this i'll pay it back for the rest of my life once they get to jail to the police station he can't stand up due to his intoxication as in from the police report they have to like hold him up once he gets there they

start they have to search him once they search him they say he quote became combative when the officers tried to escort him to see a nurse so uh he spent six hours in custody before being released and these six hours are something boy that's a long that's a long time well let me tell you what he did here uh he smiled big huge shit-eating grin while he took his mug shot at about 2 a.m it's a great mug shot i'll post it'll be the social media on there at crime and sports on twitter or on twitter and Facebook. He was placed in handcuffs and leg restraints, then became combative again, obviously. Edgar McMillan, the chief deputy over technical services with the sheriff's department, he became combative with him. Then he tried several more times to stand and walk, despite the leg restraints and the fact that he shit faced um at 2 20 a.m

he was placed in what's called a restraining car yeah which is the straps hungry yeah the straps they had him electroed him basically yeah strapped him in because at this point his belly hurts oh god that that drunk hunger, it's the worst. It's a fucking disaster. Then they release him from the restraining chair and allow him to make a phone call. The officer said he calmed down enough by then to give him a phone call. He chilled the fuck out. He's starting to sober up a little bit.

By 7.21 a.m., he's leaving the jail. They release him, and he tells the reporters gathered around, quote, big misunderstanding, guys. And he keeps walking. Big misunderstanding. I owe a billion dollars. But besides that, big misunderstanding. Sure. So that's what's going on.

They have a bunch of quotes from fans from Dallas. And none of them, they all just love them and don't care. You can spit in our police force's face all you want. Totally fine here. I'll be used to that phone called Order a Pizza. That would have been hilarious. I like large pepperoni. Extra pepperoni.

Don't short me. Police station. Cell three. Three? Wherever they have the strap thingy, because I'm in the strap thingy. Can you spell drunk tank? I'm there. It's okay.

So one fan here is the former president of the Stars Booster Club. Oh, boy. Can't disappoint him. He said, said yes of course i'm disappointed but i'm going to but am i going to blacklist belfor or stop going to hockey games because of it no yeah that's fine another cop faces too shit i'll do that too fuck with my goalie another one here this is janice fallon a longtime fan and booster club member she said i find it interesting that people are so eager

to judge somebody without without all of the facts you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty not the other way around yeah that's fine but he there's a cop wiping spit off his face as we speak and so it's not really there's a lot of witnesses and now we're talking we have all the facts now and that's what he did he was a fucking idiot so um yeah they said he one said quote he had a little slip up that got the police involved but i don't think he should be condemned the uh his spokesman now belfort's got a spokesman when you start fucking up bad you gotta get a spokesman he released a statement in which the player apologized blah blah blah he uh he's charged with misdemeanors and he has there's a court date assault charge punishable by a fine of up to five hundred dollars and resisting arrest brings a

maximum penalty of over one year in jail and a four thousand dollar fine so um and somebody at that hotel better have got an employee of the month for he was he spit in a cop's face that woman didn't have a chance what was gonna happen in there was gonna be terrible she was gonna be meat in that fucking room for sure yeah so they the hotel employees did a good job and you know got got fucking headlocked for it so um they the he meets with the team now where the team wants him and the National Hockey League and the NHL Players Association, they want an independent evaluation of his mental health and substance abuse problem, if he has one or not.

So they're like, that's really drunk. Like, wow. And to be able to walk that drunk was a lot. So they think maybe he has some problems. The Stars general manager, Bob Ganey, said, I think that the team image whenever there's an incident that involves the law is tarnished our responsibility is to recognize it and address it squarely and to move through the problem not around it okay i'm not gonna pussy

foot around this vag here we're gonna get into this so um yeah they said we're gonna it's a team image thing we don't want to do anything like that. Ed says, quote, I'm sorry about the incident and regret any embarrassment to my family, the Dallas Stars organization, my teammates, friends and family. So and fans. Sorry. So if there's any left. So we, by the way, should just have that quote on a T-shirt. Just take out the team name and insert team name here.

We've heard that quote about, what is this, episode 304? About 304 times. I regret any embarrassment to my family, the organization, my teammates, friends, and fans. Just plug it in. Plug and play. That's everybody. If you ever get in trouble just say that at work and it's fine apparently you'll be fine so a teammate of his

said quote we'll move on like we always have with injuries and everything else we've gone through we'll come through this too i think it's more of an eddie issue than a team thing so it's just him just him fucking up no one else was groping people and spitting in police officers' faces. The Make-A-Wish Foundation has shit to talk about here. Because he's like one of their main spokesmen. Yeah, you can't have that going on. They said that these charges do not diminish Belfort's contributions to their organization. He's a major contributor, a major supporter, contributing eight tickets to every home game for sick children and their families.

And hosting a party for program participants each year it's probably in his contract by the way they have shit like that in their contracts he wears an image of a wishbone the foundation's logo on the bottom of his face mask they said this is judith augustine the director of the place of program services the allegations toward ed belford do not change what he's done or meant to the children and the families of the make-a-wish foundation we support him and all the good things he does both on and off the ice yeah including this all the good things i guess bringing attention to us then we don't yeah i mean really they keep mentioning us in every article so we're up this week actually it's pretty good good there's no such thing as bad publicity in the sick kid game.

Let me tell you something. Turns out donations are through the roof. Yeah, the dying kid game, man. No such thing. More kids went to Disneyland this week than any week before. Crazy, right? Weird. Super weird.

The silver-haired, middle-aged white man here, Tom Hicks, who owns the team. I think he owns the Rangers, too. Texas Rangers, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. He said, quote, We are concerned for Eddie and for everyone involved. man here tom hicks who owns the team i think he owns the rangers too texas rangers i believe if i'm not mistaken he said quote we are concerned for eddie and for everyone involved i know our team leadership will make the correct judgments about how about any consequences which may be necessary to impose on our player in other words i don't know shit pass the Yeah. Ain't on me, Chief. So June 2000, this was during the whole run through the – this was in the Stanley Cup playoffs. He had a bad game.

He didn't do well here. They lost 7-3 in game one. He wasn't happy. And Dallas, basically they said that they had an excuse, though, that he'll be better in the next game, which they weren't because they lost. But they said the coach and Ed Balfour both said, look, I had a bad game because I had some prescription medication for a head cold I was taking while I was playing.

Seven goals were scored on him? Jesus. He said it threw off my balance and my equilibrium. And he said, I've been told to get off of that by the coaches. So, yeah, Hitchcock said that he and Belfort rarely communicate afternoon on game days because, quote, he's not the kind of guy you really want to talk to, I guess, on a game day. It's not a lot of fun. So he said when Belfort initiated a 10-minute conversation about his physical problems physical problems it raised concerns though there was no thought of sitting him out and he said look he's the horse that's gotten us this far

and we're going to ride him all the way through all the way to the vagina so he said if it happens to be you know whatever we'll take it whatever we can get so he said it's all about the medication Hitchcock said he felt like he needed something to help him get through it he felt like he had some breathing problems and his energy was dropping so um yeah

and he said there was an indication and the way he handled the longer shots was an indication and belfort said there were a couple of shots that just hit me and i didn't see them and i got a little bit lucky anything that happens you get a little worried it could have been nine goals yeah it could have been nine goals you didn't see the fucking puck that's dangerous jesus christ they just drilled him in the chest fuck he said it's embarrassing for all of us it's not easy to put it out of our minds but this definitely motivates us and the coach said i think the team will have a different attitude we learned last night that ed belfor that when ed belfor is average or below average we're not a very good team we need him to be a great player,

but that just shows me how valuable he's been to this team. He's valuable, Jimmy. So October 2000, he's got to go to court. Uh-oh. Yeah, he apologized in court for resisting arrest, and he pleads guilty to a misdemeanor charge of resisting police transfer. That's the charge they give him.

Under this, he is sentenced to, you, sir, may fuck off 24 months probation and a $3,000 fine. For that night? That's all he got? That's all he got. Yeah. Probation and a fine. That's a wild-ass night. Yeah.

You kick the shit out of cops and see. Yeah. We'd get shot, I would imagine, if you're not rich. If you're not rich, putting up that much of a fuss, you're at least getting beaten up a little bit, I would imagine. Oh, you're going to, yeah, you're going to get punched. So he, out of, you know, for whatever. So he was ordered by the judge also to visit two Dallas schools to warn students about the dangers of alcohol abuse. Also the dangers of punching or spitting on cops.

Yeah, don't spit on cops is another thing. Don't kick them, don't spit on them. It'll cost you some money. This is what the judge said to him during sentencing. This isn't really a you sir may fuck off here. He said, quote, you're an important part of this community. We need you. He said, I think you owe an apology to some people.

Talk about a slap on the wrist. You apologize, young man. Holy shit. Wow. That is silver, my friend. Holy shit. That guy is unbelievable. That guy is a star season ticket holder, Judge Barker, allegedly.

I got money on you, you son of a bitch. I want to know if he's got seats right down by the glass or something. He's like, I don't want to suck this year. I spent a lot of money on these tickets. Check that man's DraftKings account. Good. Yeah. No shit.

He said, I'm real sorry for the incident that took place. And he said, quote, I won't let it happen again. Okay. So, yeah, he's two years probation, blah, blah, blah. Now, what did he say later? Later is what he said. That's what he said that's what he said in court yeah okay later on he has a completely different story for this then he left the court then he yeah after after court he's got a totally different story about what happened it's not i

made a mistake and i apologize and all that shit he's got a huge excuse let's hear you know what fuck this let's let him tell us about it with an in their own words. What do you say here? Do you want me to guess what he said? What he blamed? No, no. Go on. In their own words, quote, I don't have any proof of what I'll tell you because there's no way to prove it.

But someone put something in my drink. I don't know how or what, but I have no recollection of what happened that night. I had to look up the police report from about 11 that night, I didn't remember anything until I woke up. All I know is that I was at a supper date, and it was the night before a game. You can ask any player who knows me, I don't drink on a night before a game. It was an unfortunate incident for myself because of all the bad publicity, and people might think this guy's an alcoholic, and it's the furthest thing from the truth.

NHL Players Association has security meetings before each season, Yeah, like the woman. life or at least save me from injuring myself seriously or someone else seriously yeah like the woman uh but wouldn't she tell the cops i don't know why he's acting like this he hasn't had a drop to drink wouldn't she say something like that you would imagine she'd be like super weird hasn't drank at all freaking out fucking spitting at cops fighting fucking fighting people drugged his coca-Cola. This is weird. So that's what he's saying. That's his excuse that he's, you know, it wasn't me. Wasn't me.

Yeah, somebody drugged me. They drugged me. What was your guess for what his excuse was? I thought you were going to say, like, she did. If she hadn't said no to me, I wouldn't have gotten so angry. Some shit like that. It was her fault. She promised me a blowjob and then backed out at the last minute.

She crawfished. Everybody's keeping the badge from me, even her. She crawfished. I was going to crawfish and drill that devil right in the ass. You know how that goes. So January 2001 yeah he is losing his fucking mind here at this point um yeah he there's a game in boston and he took off before the game after he got in a fight with his coach gets in a fight with ken hitchcock not a physical

fight but uh whatever he loud argument yeah he was upset that hitchcock had started her decided to start the backup marty turco against the bruins and then he refused to take part in the morning skate not doing it nope he did like a tony like a scotty pippen if you're calling the play for tony kukoc i'm not going in i'm fine i'll sit over here um instead uh so yeah he's supposed to do that instead he flew back to dallas just said i'm fine i'll sit over here um instead uh so yeah he's supposed to do that instead he flew back to dallas just said i'm leaving it's a road game and he just went home went home and uh he was suspended indefinitely by the team that day because you're not allowed to do that yeah after the meeting there the the coach and general manager said that uh they they reinstated him

it's fine so turns out we need him how silver is this whole town for him yeah like he's got zero punishment for any of his bullshit anything dallas is one of these places too because it's the same thing with the cowboys whenever we're talking about that i'm the mavericks i'm sure it's like if you do anything god damn it we will put you in prison for the rest of your goddamn life unless you play for one of our sports teams and by all means gang rape our women and we'll give you a pat on the back as long as we get some season tickets that's what it seems like goes on in dallas i don't know if that's true or not but hey that's what it seems like as long as there's a star on your helmet star on your chest star somewhere i'm kind of star god damn it you're gonna be a star here at the police station too so uh belfor explained his

actions to the team and say that um you know he said quote i'm pretty emotional and i have a pretty good temper yeah i would say in certain situations i feel it's best to walk away before maybe i do something that's worse yeah i's starting to get some therapy. I would like to handle things better. I know I overreacted the other day. Maybe Hitchcock overreacted a bit too. Maybe not, by the way, if you just blame the coach too. And the other thing is, you know what adults do?

They don't beat the guy or leave. They just deal with it and stay at work. That's what people do all the time. How often is everyone out there in crime and sports land, you've ever been angry at your fucking boss? Didn't feel like doing something? Did you just leave? Or did you say, and then when they said, hey, what the

fuck? You went, well, it's better than if I stayed and something worse happened. That's not how you deal with your job. I'm always told best to walk away. Yeah. No. They also told me two wrongs don't make a right try that at your job next time just leave no call no show it and then just be like i thought it was better than the alternative which was to kill you or something you know like what the fuck are you talking about if you're also living by kindergarten rules just sit down crisscross applesauce and

shut your fucking mouth shut the fuck fuck up, all of you. So he's going to return. He's not going to start against the Thrashers that night, and he'll return on the next game against Detroit. The coach said, it's not punishment. We just felt it was better for him to get three practices to get things back in order. We brought up this situation. We brought this situation back down to ground zero.

That's not what that means at all that's what year is this don't say that it's this is 2001 man don't say that this is 2000 this is like during the 2001 season i think it's in like march of 2001 it's a little early but a little early for that one he's gonna go oh shit i hope that's not still on the Internet. We're going to bring this down to right at the south side of Manhattan. Yeah, just right around there. Coach went on to say, I think that people have to understand, what people have to understand is when you're in a situation where, depending on the person's personality, things start closing in around you,

there is, when you have a very competitive person, an attitude of fight or flight. I don't agree with what Ed did. Nobody does. But he had to break the cycle in a way that was less damaging to himself personally. Yeah, but adults don't do fight or flight. They do fucking lump it and deal with it. That's what adults do. Adults do eat some shit for a while because this is what I have to do.

You think I fucking felt like sitting fucking doing this all day today, putting together an Ed Belfour episode? No. I didn't just leave. I did it. And now we're fucking recording the episode. And I'm happy we are because it's fun. But you get the job done. Yeah. I don't want to fucking do it either sometimes.

But you fucking do it. Asshole. You sit through the clock and you just walk and wait it out. You do it, man. Jesus Christ. Even his teammates making Darrylor, making an excuse for him. I don't think people understand sometimes the pressure we face. He had a lot of buildup.

Did he handle it right? No. But I think a lot of us understand what he was feeling. Just please save goals. Yeah. Then he goes on to say this. This is Hitchcock, the coach, again. His strength sometimes

becomes ed's weakness i think that what i think that what i have a better understanding of ed is how this guy talks like an asshole this is his sentences are so hard to read because it's not the word you expect to be next and your brain has to really yeah deal with it it's fucking hard man what i have a better understanding of ed is how things that maybe you and i take for granted and things that you and i and normal people who certainly aren't as competitive as ed blow off just move on they eat at him that's probably the one thing i found is that they really eat at him wow he is so fucking hard to read, this guy. Jesus Christ. It's like reading fucking Shakespeare.

It's difficult. Belfort's agent said that, yeah, his client had some issues, but it's not a big deal. No big deal. Everything's going to be fine. He said, not that Ed hadn't considered the results or ramifications of his decision to leave. Oh, this is the team saying this. But I felt it was important for me to let him know from my position as the manager what they were and what needed to be done because of the decision. So, yeah.

He said, I think if we made a wrong decision in handling Ed in some way, I think he'd also say, that didn't feel good and I wish it wouldn't happen again. That's the message. So we're going to do nothing, and he'll understand better that way if we don't give any penalties. That's how we teach. He says, this is his contrite statement, quote, yeah, definitely I let the team down. He said, anytime you leave your team like that,

I feel like you're in a situation where maybe you didn't think of what was best for the team. Everyone knows that i'm pretty emotional and have a pretty good temper i think certain situations for me would be better to walk away from things and then to take it face on and do something that would be more and then he trailed off more dot dot dot more uh bad break in my coach's face you know beating my coach with a goalie stick right so 2001 2002 quickly uh they have 90 points that year we'll just read the point totals they don't go to the playoffs though oh they finished 36 and 28

36 28 13 and 5 and don't go to the playoffs stunning uh looks like this year he has a pretty good year um oh 265 goals against not really95. Not even in the running for the vagina. No anything like that. 2002, he goes to the Olympics with the Canadian team. Really? And wins a gold medal. What? It doesn't play at all, by the way, in any of the games.

But he wins a gold medal. He backed up Curtis Joseph and Martin Brodeur. Okay. There you go. February 28, 2002, they're in Vancouver, and Ed's going to have to pay for some shit, or the stars are. Either way, well, he got pissed off. He got pulled out of a game,

and he was replaced by the backup 14 minutes and 31 seconds into the first period after he got beat by a power play on a power play. So he got mad, sk power play on a power play so uh he got mad skated straight to the locker room rather than returning to the bench uh didn't return to the bench until the start of the second period and while he went in there he destroyed the fucking locker room he oh shit he broke two televisions a clock a vcr and damaged several walls inside the dressing room before uh being physically restrained. Yeah, that's not good.

That's not good. Yeah, he's pissed off there. June 29, 2002, he's about outlived his welcome here. Outstayed his welcome in Dallas. He's going to leave Dallas now this year. He's a free agent. He's gone. And he says, I think, oh, who is this?

This is, who the hell is doug oh the new stars general manager he said i think eddie will go down in this organization and probably in the metroplex as one of the best competitors and biggest clutch clutch players we've ever seen he says that uh um yeah the bigger the game the better he was they love him so bell for the the backup goalie who's now going to be the again cheaper backup yeah he said that belfor has a number one goalie personality he couldn't be number two that's the backup that's hitchcock the guy who's been backing him up for years he's been waiting for him so um yeah they said they weren't gonna they were stuck with him they're gonna end up

getting rid of him there they were they tried to trade him i guess during the year but couldn't couldn't trade him, I guess. It didn't work out. So they said, without Ed, we don't have the Stanley Cup, we don't have the five divisional championships, and we don't go to the finals again. He's been a rock for this organization, so they love him there.

Anyway, he says, quote, I pretty much knew I wouldn't be back. I thanked everyone I played with, everyone who won the Cup. It was so sad to say goodbye, to leave the place and the team that I helped win the cup and fulfill my dreams, then have it all fall apart the way it did in a year and a half. My goal was to retire there. predators for a fifth round draft pick and david goslin so he's on the road now um he's there for i don't even see i don't know what the fuck happened if he then is a free agent if he has an option not to go there because three days later he signs as a free agent with toronto what it's really weird i don't know how that works if you can refuse it or what but or if he's if he's traded it three days before his contract expires?

I don't know how it works, but either way, he plays for Toronto, 62 games that year, 922 save percentages. That's pretty good. He's third in the vagina voting. Wow. 15th in the heart. These are like all of his old school kind of numbers. Doing great. And, yeah, it's awesome.

Toronto's head coach and general manager at the time said there are some events I'm sure he would like to have out of his mind. He's recently married, and I think we allege we – what is that? Oh, it reminded us of our past foibles. It's baggage that you want to leave behind, and I think he has. He's all good. He's good now. New environment. He has some muscle strains in 2003, 2004.

Ends up having to have back surgery. Has all this weird fucked up shit with his back. His doctor here, one of his doctors said, this is just a doctor that works on hockey players. As you age, you are just not supposed to be under the same stress that you were when you're 22. Those people who are 38 and still playing at an elite level are pretty amazing from a physiological point of view they have to keep very healthy and strong and when they do get an injury it may take them a little longer to recover from it sure yeah 38 isn't 22 no just not um at all so 2003 2004 uh what does he have here a 9 918 save percentage. Seventh in the vaginas, tenth in the heart voting. Okay. Pretty good.

2005, 2006. Here he is, what is he at? 892 in the saves. Not even on the vaginas radar at all. Not good. July 25th, 2006, after three years with Toronto, he signs as a free agent with the Florida Panthers. He's 40 years old, too, now. 41 years old yeah it's getting older um yeah october 29th 2006 there's a an issue in a hotel okay uh hotel in miami here oh no this one i'm sorry this is in

garden city new york so i think that's's Queens. So they're in a hotel. There's a nightclub attached to the hotel where the team is staying. Okay. Perfect. That's like the one in Portland where your room was rattling at night. Oh, boy. So the Panthers' other goaltender, Alex Auld, ended up being hurt in this and needed stitches over his eye for a cut over his eye. In the game or in the—

No, no, in the hotel lobby. Oh, no. They said they said they were quote horsing around these are 40 year old men horsing around in a hotel lobby uh a witness from the nightclub said that uh belfor was shit-faced drunk i saw him stumbling around he denies it he said me i never touch a drop. Me? God, no. He said, quote, there was no alcohol involved whatsoever. I don't even know why we're talking about it. My goodness. Mercy, my God.

So he and some of his teammates, he said, were all just hanging out together at a restaurant watching the World Series. They decided to go to the nightclub and uh a witness a witness contacted reporters by the way and said that he had to be coaxed out of the bar by teammates like you got to get down here ed belfort shit-faced in the bar teammates are there they said that uh ald said he was hurt when they reached the lobby that's the backup belfort explains it like this quote they have the lobby. That's the backup. Belfour explains it like this. Quote, they have the marble floors there and they're slippery. That's his opener, by the way.

You ever been drunk on a marble floor? You're going to slip. This is the way it is. He said, we were just horsing around with each other. I dropped my bottle of water and we all slipped like the three stooges they go whoop whoop whoop oh yep he said alex hit his head when he fell down sure because athletic people in the prime of their life hit their heads when they slip on water usually they don't fall on their ass or their hit their head right on their head wow police were called and ald was

taken to a hospital for stitches police said there was no report though taken which is crazy the and a hope a hotel employee who described herself as director of rooms uh at first volunteered a security report of the incident and then moments later told the reporter there's no information i'm sorry never mind it doesn't exist so they just totally covered that shit up it's a total cover-up um the players don't want to discuss the episode and uh that's that the captain of the team said quote you want to act like a professional player outside the rink as well whatever happened there's no reason to look back let's just plow forward and we're professionals move on and be good now so uh

that year he has a 902 save percentage he uh this is his last year in the nhl here oh boy so grand total he has 484 wins 324 losses his save percentage what do you think it is jimmy uh Percentage, what do you think it is, Jimmy? Eight? Nine-oh-six? It is nine-oh-six on the button. He's a nine-oh-six man. How did he do it?

Nine-oh-six goals allowed, 2.50, so two and a half per game, so a hell of a career for him. Yeah. Not bad. He made, from what I understand, about $49 million in change. Wow. Through the 90s and early 2000ss he was making that kind of money top goalies shit top goalies make bank they really do i mean you you want to that's a big deal so he's doing real well problem is uh april 9th 2007 he is arrested in south beach here in miami after after what's described as a quote scuffle with a police

officer he's good for those oh my god it's a bar at one ocean drive and one player who requested anonymity said it was a typical team party they're having a team party so this player said he left before the incidents happened but that's what was going on at the time. A police report stated that about 1.10 a.m. on Monday, security guards at the bar asked him to leave. You got to leave. He said no. I don't think so. Not going anywhere.

I'd rather not. I'm going to stay, thank you, where the booze is. So, they called the police and said police and you got this guy out of here they said in the report it says after being given quote plenty of opportunities yeah that's what they put in it he uh ultimately walked outside and turned toward an officer and yelled quote i'm out and what and then the officer said fucking leave now you have to leave he refused to leave and said quote no i'm not leaving belfort then put his hands up and walked toward the officer quote in a fighting stance oh shit and shit. And pushed him.

Don't do that. Nope. He was told he was under arrest for doing that, so he grabbed the officer's shirt and ripped it at that point. Tore a piece off of it. This caused a crowd to gather, obviously. After that, he fell to the ground with his hands beneath his body, refusing to place his hands behind his back. He fell ground with his hands beneath beneath his body refusing to place his hands behind his back he fell down covering his hands up like no i won't put him behind my back

like a child like exactly like a child would do so if you believed someone put something in my drink the first time what about now because this is the exact same fucking behavior exact this is what you do when you get really drunk. You're a belligerent asshole. I got to tell you, Mr. Belfort, you can't handle booze. I'm a better drinker than you are. I've never seen, in all the times we've hung out and done things and comedy and all that, I've never seen you try to fight a cop, ever.

Not once. I handle booze fantastic i'm not i'm not a stanley cup champion but boy can i handle booze at least in this we don't know what he's drinking and also the so there's a crowd on the gathered watching him going no i won't put my hands behind his back he eventually complied you know what's he gonna do stay on the sidewalk the rest of the night drink of choices james we'll find out. I really want to know. Oh, really? We will absolutely find out. I got it all. That's great. I have it all. Don't worry about that.

We're going to talk about booze, my friend. He had slurred speech, bloodshot eyes, and alcohol on his breath. That's always helpful. And he was treated for scratches on his knees. They said that, yeah, he was near a pair of these blah, blah, blah. Oh, that was the other thing.

The Peltonen, who was another player who was there during this, he was near a pair of Miami Beach police officers when out of nowhere during this whole melee, he got angry that this was happening. So he, quote, started breaking a metal pole on the passenger side of the fire truck. He started ripping the fire truck apart. Pulling the truck apart. Not the cop car, the fire truck. It had nothing to do with any of this shit. And then they arrested him as well. For destruction of property.

For destruction of city property. So, yeah, they hold him until about noon the next day. This is fucking ridiculous. The other guy, Pelt ridiculous. He's charged with, the other guy is charged, Peltonen was charged with criminal mischief for that. He is, Belfort is charged with disorderly intoxication and resisting an officer without violence.

He's lucky he got without violence. So the team said in a statement, said, quote, this is before that he stopped playing exactly, right at the end of the season we've been informed about the incident that occurred last night and we are currently in the process of gathering all the information we have no further comment at this time um also at this point uh was he saying oh yeah we'll meet all the individuals we'll meet

with all the individuals separately and find out what happened so so he's a fucking mess right now boy is he he's a mess the team uh this was at the very end of the season so the team's kind of like yeah well we'll comment it on it at another time and then they're like we just won't re-sign him and then we won't have to comment on it at all we've heard and we'll deal with it yeah so he's got he's out of the league now and now this is a bad time for this because when you're 41 if you'd like to play a couple more years and stay in the league being a problem and an alcoholic mess that fights cops in the street isn't the best thing to put out there to get a job basically maybe the worst it could be the worst so he doesn't know what to do with

himself he has no idea he really doesn't uh one day he's got nothing better to do with himself. He has no idea. He really doesn't. One day, he's got nothing better to do. It's a summer day. He's sitting at home, you know, hanging out, doing his thing. Suddenly, though, there's a knock at the door. Oh, yeah. He's like, I hope that's opportunity. I really hope that's opportunity. Afraid of knocking.

And you know what? It sure is, because it's Vince McMahon, CEO and chairman of WWE. And he says... How is it you've come to arrive here? Ah, I love it. You're crazy. You'll take hard objects right to the head. You got vaginas hanging off of you

This is perfect Look at you Oh my god You know what else I like? I like that you'll fight cops I like it I like it You don't like authority

That's right Who does? Not me, damn it That's right Hey, you know what though? I've seen you in a lot of situations, Ed I've seen your eagle helmet It's beautiful

Really like that eagle I know you're not american but it's patriotic and it it brings a tingle to my balls i gotta tell you but one thing i want to see i know you look great in the eagle helmet but how do you look in a pair of overalls that we're gonna find out what do you say come on ed let's go pal we're going buddy let's do it oh yeah come on buddy and he he's got a new career and poof in a cloud of 1099s and fucking other dead wrestlers other people sweat tears and blood he disappears and ed's like awesome i got a new job uh but before that he has to go to court and uh may 2007 both

he and uh the other guy vile peloton and they each peloton his name is pretty much peloton they each agree to a plea bargain for their misdemeanor arrests and uh yep bell for obviously disorderly intoxication and resisting arrest he agreed to serve quote you sir may fuck off 20 hours of community service wow for the second time he beat up a cop that is crazy oh wait wait there's more jimmy come on also he must make and this is gonna hurt a 200 contribution yeah to the police athletic league and if that's not enough, this has really put him in his place, he must write an apology to the arresting officer. Yes, explain why you walked toward him

in a fighting stance, young man. Those are always fun. This is like a nine-year-old did that. Yeah, but apology letters that are ordered, they don't send it back like this one's not good enough. They just write what you write. Those are so much fun. I've had to write them, and I love them.

That's hilarious. We should do a bonus episode about forced apology letters. Yeah, I want to read a bunch of them. I want to know what they are. I want to read a bunch of forced apology letters. So anyone who has those, send them to us, please. Research at ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com. So anyway, the criminal mischief

is what Peloton's charged with. It's at the same issue as fucking Belfort here. So Pelotonin agreed to 15 hours of community service, $185.31 as restitution for the fire truck poll and make a 200 police athletic league contribution so the cops are going to get some new basketballs and shit out of this yay or a personal trainer for the two for the one that got fucked up maybe

the other guy had no criminal history meanwhile belfort's got his own issues so he's got a shitload of money to this day, by the way, and we'll go over a couple things. To this day, if you look up, not that this is true, as we know, because it says we're extremely wealthy online, and we're definitely not. It says he has a $20 million net worth. Probably still does. At this moment.

Well, because he's got other shit going on. He's also got the car shop and all this shit. August 28, 2007, he signs as a free agent with Lexans. That's a team in Sweden. He plays there for a year. I think he just had to get it out of his system that he was done. 2011, he's been out of the NHL for five years. He is inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Is that right? Hockey Hall of Famer, babe. That's it, man. That's big time. He's also inducted as a member of the Manitoba Sports Hall of Fame, which is a much more hard, difficult one to get into. Also, the Manitoba Junior Hockey League awards a trophy named after him for its top goaltender every year. He's the vagina of the junior athlete. For the longest keg stand?

Longest keg stand done. Most cops fought. You know, one of those. So what is he going to do with his life? Oh, I can't wait to find out. He's got 11 years now to come to today. Yeah, well, he's relatively quiet for a few years. And then in the late 2010s here, he announces a new business he'll be doing.

What is that? This is actually smart because if anybody knows about this particular subject, it's at Belfour. He comes out with Belfour Spirits. He's making booze. He's making his own booze. It's like Samuel L. Jackson beer on the Chappelle show. Yeah. He might even fight a motherfucker.

He'll get you drunk. He'll get you drunk. You might even fight a... N-word, he says. That's Chappelle saying that. But this is Belfour. It's the same thing. It's so ridiculous.

Might even fight a cop. He might even fight a cop or two. So it'll give you a good cop spitting loogies. So he's the current president and CEO of Belfor Spirits. It's a whiskey company. He started with family members. Okay. The company also has a broader mission to, quote, advance the sport of hockey, developing youth player and assisting retired hockey players in need,

supporting active duty military and veterans back home, and caring for abused and neglected dogs. Oh my God, he is pandering like a motherfucker. Those are like, he has a dart and he's just throwing darts all over the place. For dog whistling, yeah. He is not shooting at the 20 at all. He's just like, I need an 18, I'll grab a 16 while I'm here, and fucking he's all over the place. He's playing booze cricket at the moment. Yeah.

Fine causes all around, but, I mean, just strange. Yeah. Ed now talks about the booze he likes to drink here. And he said, my introduction to whiskey was rye. That's where he said, we didn't know what bourbon whiskey was back then he said that he in his early days as a whiskey drinker he would drink canadian club which is like what old-time alcoholics drink right like from the fucking 60s um canadian club and what do they put uh ginger yeah yeah yeah whatever you want. Ginger club, and it's pretty common.

The Alkies on Mad Men are always drinking that. So he said, and I always enjoyed rye. He said at 21 years old, he came to the United States, and he went to a bar and ordered a rye and Coke, and nobody knew what he was talking about. The bartender didn't know, so he said, I quickly learned I had to order a whiskey and Coke. So, yeah. He said that he's well-versed in all American whiskeys at this point. We know that, Ed. Trust us.

That's his thing. One thing we know, it's that you're well-versed in whiskeys. He said that Belfort Spirits produces a pecan wood-finished bourbon. We'll talk all about it. To pay homage to his time in the States. Quote, we wanted to have that texas connection belfor and his family moved to texas in 1997 and uh the bourbon this bourbon was distilled at southern distilling company in north carolina where many of his products are made there including the new special

edition straight rye which we'll talk about um he also has his two adult children, Dan and Reagan. Neither of them spelled like you'd think they are. No. You go, Dan and Reagan. How do you spell those different? Well, it's very possible. Dan. P and Dan?

There's a Y in there. What? Yeah. Where? Who knows? D-A-Y-N. I don't know if it's Dane, maybe. Dane.

Yeah. Which is not how you spell dane either so what the fuck are you doing you're canadian not fucking you know finnish what the fuck and reagan has an h in there want to know where it is after the g yeah there you go that's rough yeah that's – so they are vice presidents of the family business. He said, Dane and I started looking into this about seven years ago, and his son even created the Belfort Spirits Limited Edition Straight Rye through an internship at Woody Creek Distillers in Colorado. Okay. Which I've seen you have before. Yeah.

Belfort said he and Dane wanted to further their whiskey education in order to go beyond merely being a spokesperson for the brand. He's like, I'm going to fight a cop while I'm on it. That'll show people. Dane and I were full-time right from the start. Reagan would help us out wherever she could. She was a finance major. She was doing banking at the time, and now she's with us full-time for just over a year.

Good for you rag hand oh man he's he said that uh he's super into this though he said it's he's even looking forward to he says every bottle comes adorned with wings which references his eddie the eagle nickname while the limited edition straight rye is uniquely topped with a silver chalice that may look familiar to hockey fans. It's the Belfour Chalice Cup, he cheerfully dubbed it. How about we just focus on the booze and stop dressing up bullshit? How about we do that? He's going to have a fancy cap on it.

He said good whiskey requires several factors like quality ingredients, the proper mat maturation time and the right cask treatment to come together just like a successful hockey team needs a variety of contributors you good christ it's not just one thing it's all the combinations of a lot of different things that go into the makeup of championship teams i believe that's the same thing here with whiskeys. Hey. A good whiskey will get you blind drunk to where you fight off. That's the thing about whiskey, too. If you get too drunk drinking whiskey, man, it takes a long time to sober up, and you are fucked up. It's a fucking problem. It is, yeah.

He's got limited edition straight rye whiskey. That's the one. It's 100 proof. straight rye whiskey. That's the one. It's 100 proof, aged 24 months, aged for two years in only 12 American white oak barrels. This limited edition is offered at 100 proof. With subtle smoky presence, this straight rye whiskey has intriguing floral notes followed by a kaleidoscope of fruit flavors that dance across your palate. It's 100 proof. Shut the fuck up. It's too much.

You're not tasting fucking floral things on your palate. You're going, hoo-wee, that burns. Holy shit. The special edition straight rye whiskey is 106 proof. Okay. It's too much. The Belfort's first special edition was made to honor the heart and soul of any victorious team,

the fans. Loyal and dedicated, tried and true, the spirit of champions. Specifically, this is right off their website, by the way. This is their descriptions. Specifically, this straight rye whiskey is dedicated to the fighting Sioux fans who supported Ed Belfort

and his teammates in their quest to win the NCAA Hockey Championship in 1987. These lifelong fans introduced Ed to the values upon which he founded Belfort Spirits. What, being a drunk, fighting in the streets? Cherishing family and tradition, loyalty to team, honoring your God-given gifts, and respect for the generations of greatness that have gone before you. He also has a straight batch, straight bourbon whiskey. It's 105 proof. Only 95

barrels comprise this one-time release. Oh, wow. Creamy, sweet flavors lead to a finish that's complex and evolving. You will likely enjoy notes of honey, graham cracker, candied orange peel, and sweet pipe tobacco. I fucking hate this so much.

And then finally, bourbon whiskey here, finished with Texas pecan wood, in case you want that. 46%, so it's 92 proof, they say here the majesty of a 300 year old oversized pecan tree on the old belfort ranch in north texas inspired this unique spirit we cut that motherfucker down uh we cut it down and made booze out of it 400 year old tree we cut that bitch down and made barrels out of it to make you whiskey it's a tree that'll make you fight a cop. Born out of one of the natural wonders of the Lone Star State, this 92 proof bourbon whiskey aged beautifully in American white oak barrels, then spent extra time mellowing with added staves of Texas pecan wood. These imparted subtle notes of brown sugar and heavy notes of smoky roasted pecan. Yeah. Yikes.

I mean, I'm embarrassed by that personally. Yeah. Yikes. I mean, I'm embarrassed by that personally. Yeah. That's the most embarrassed. Sincerely. And if you're Ed, you think if you're going to make booze shit, being that you're a drunk, you do it like under an assumed name, you know? Otherwise, you're going to end up being like these people who I feel really sorry for, Jimmy.

Otherwise, you're going to end up being like these people who I feel really sorry for, Jimmy. Ed Belfort, head Beachwood Park School in Hertfordshire, UK. Not a whiskey douche? Not a whiskey douche. Ed Belfort, business owner, New York, New York. Ed Belfort, sales specialist, customer experience management focus, digital marketing certified in Australia. Not a bourbon asshole? Not a bourbon.

Weird, right? Ed Belfort, tier two technical support specialist at AT&T in San Antonio. Not a rye reject? Weird. Not a cop fighting rye nut with vaginas on his necklace. Pastor Ed Belfort. Yeah. Pastor at Redeelfort. Yeah. Pastor at Redeemer Lutheran Church in Gorham, Maine. Only barely feel bad for him.

Only barely, yeah. He's probably embarrassing enough on his own. So, now he can drink and calm down. Well, January 28th, 2020, he is at the Grand Hotel and Spa in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Oh. Oh, yeah. He's hanging out. That's his voice, I imagine.

Oh, yeah. Well, the police are called because police say that he caused property damage while, quote, from the report, manifestly under the influence of alcohol. Weird. In Kentucky? I don't believe it in kentucky with unlimited booze reserves is fucking jesus christ researching like a motherfucker evidently i'm just researching this is good for my business he falls down it's all right off That's hilarious. So this is just before 1.30 a.m. Yeah.

Downtown Bowling Green. The citation states that Bowling Green Police Department officers were responding to a complaint of a drunken disorderly person at the hotel when they found Belfort lying on the floor on the hotel's second level by the spa room. Just lying on the floor outside. A little kid that just fell asleep. Just too much. Now, it gets better, by the way, because he's not just resting. Belfort is, quote, clutching a curtain rod that had been ripped out of the drywall above a window next to him. That he was holding on to, to hold his fucking foot.

That he was trying to pull himself up, I think, and he ripped it out. And, quote, kicking the spa door while he was lying on the ground. Somebody help. Hello? This is a disaster. Jesus Christ. What a fucking mess. They said he had slowed slurred speech, bloodshot eyes, and could barely stand up and had the strong odor of alcohol on his breath.

It smelled like a Texas pecan. Yeah, exactly. It was a pecan. A lot of creamy notes coming off of it. I smelled a kaleidoscope of fruit flavors mixed with a smoky pecan flavor. James, if there are this many, three count them, documented times that he was so fucked up police need to be involved. Can you fucking fathom how many times this drunk idiot somebody just took him home embarrassing shit oh my god he's a fucking idiot what a fucking idiot um so the cops the cops want to cuff him obviously he also uh refuses to comply obviously he does go um cuff me to the fucking curtain rod

curtain rod this is perfect he will not be cuffed voluntarily at belfort you have to take him down man so the initial reporter uh their initial caller reported that to that belfort was locked inside the spa room but it turns out he was actually on the other side. Yeah. He was on the outside of the spa room because the caller told police Belfort had been drinking downstairs, obviously, where he tried to fight a hotel employee. Oh, my God. Down there to no avail. Then he struck a glass window and broke that before heading upstairs and trying to, quote, force his way into the spa room.

Fuck it, I'm taking a bath. So at some point he just laid down and kicked it while he was laying there. That's how drunk he was. I'll have a sauna. Fuck it. It gets worse, Jimmy. It gets worse because there's a video of it and I give you a blow by blow. It is so bad.

He is a sloppy fucking mess. Yeah. He even told the cops while he was there, I was out of control before. I'm okay now. I'm good now. What was the problem? I'm okay. I'm okay.

So it's three officers confronting him on the second floor of the Bowling Green Hotel here at around 1 a.m. You can see he is lying on the ground, clutching the curtain rod, kicking a spa door as they walk up. This is odd. You can look it up. It's online. Anybody can see it. They tried to get him to his feet, but he was having a tough time with that. You know, whiskey.

Yeah. They should have realized that was going to be a problem. He then began to crawl around on all fours, quote, mumbling incoherently, and then wrestled with officers as they tried to slap the cuffs on him. There's nothing worse than being a grown man hammered and people treating you like a child. But you just you did this to yourself. He can't take it. He can't take it. I'm not a child.

I can do it. I'm OK. I'm OK. It's so embarrassing when you can't. Eventually, he was able to speak to the cops yeah chill the fuck out he apologized over and over again i don't know how much money he offered to get them to forget it but i give you its inflation five trillion dollars was from 95 inflation from then it's nine trillion that's what he's so fun oh this guy's amazing at one

point an officer asked him what happened earlier in the night yeah and what did he say was this quote i think probably what happened was which is a bad way to start he doesn't know i think probably what happened was those two words were in a row i think and probably in other words fuck do i know i was hammered ask other people that's what he should have said ask the guy i tried to fight downstairs he probably has a good idea what went on he said i think probably what happened was i was out of control and somebody called the police. Yep. Yeah, that's pretty obvious. Bingo! Then the officer said, why were you out of control?

You've been drinking tonight? Yeah. This is how drunk he is. His response is, what are responses to this question? Yes. Yes. No. Or drunk often say, who day is it?

They said, why were you out of control? You've been drinking tonight? And he said, right. Which is the drunkest response to you've been drinking tonight you could possibly have. You don't get a drunk. You got it. He said, right. That is so drunk.

Think about how drunk that is, bro. Oh, my God. That is the most stereotypical drunk. That's fantastic. Right. Right. Right. Correct.

You win the vagina award. You win all of them for this year. You're the best goalie now. What do we have for him, Johnny? Oh, man. He's booked for Crip. What do we have for him, Johnny? Oh, man. He's booked for criminal... Booked for criminal mischief, public intoxication. Again, big shit-eating grin in his

mugshot. Loves to have his picture taken. So... His kids have so many stories, James. So many stories of things that he's ruined. We found dad in the pool. Yeah.

Things like that. Oh, God. He has to apologize now. And he says, quote, as CEO of a company that promotes drinking responsibly, I let myself down, as well as my family, my loved ones, the Belfour team, and fans, he wrote. So it's the same statement he gave 15 years ago. Minus a team. Minus a team. Well, he said the Belfour team and fans, he wrote. So it's the same statement he gave 15 years ago. Minus a team. Minus a team.

Well, he said the Belfour team. Oh, he did? Yeah, there's a team now. And fans of the whiskey. He just replaced Dallas Stars. I mean, replaced the Dallas Stars with whatever team you have. He said then, I own my actions and I'm deeply sorry to the good people of Bowling Green, Kentucky. I'm striving to find a healthy balance in my life.

It's a work in progress and one I'm committed to conquering. I look forward to better days ahead. So he goes to court, facing one count of third-degree criminal mischief, one count of public intoxication. There, doesn't get much for this. He's ordered to pay you, sir, may fuck off $219 in court fees. That's what he gets. That's the thing is that since day one, he has never learned that this is not okay to do.

No. And the penalties are not telling him. Oh, he's making booze. I mean, Jesus. I found a, this is an 8x10 picture. Can't get enough of Ed Belfort? Well, keep your eye open he's got a like i said unlimited reserve of booze so anything could happen now on ebay here's a signed

as we know from our bonus episode maybe not for real but signed uh ed belfor uh it's him in the red black hawks jersey old school sign picture of him at the goal. $40 for that. Deal. $39.99. $4 shipping. Just include it. So there he is. That's Ed Belfour. Now, very quickly before we wrap this up here, I do want to give everybody a sunny update again.

We have another sunny update. She's in so much trouble, James. Oh, she's fucked now. They revoked her bond. Yep. She is now in jail. Her blood alcohol level, the law, is.08. Yeah.

They got hers back. Remember I said last time, waiting on toxicology? That was not drinking. You should know. It's a seizure. You should know before you blah, blah, blah. .280 is her fucking alcohol level. Hammered.

Almost four times illegal limit. Shit-faced. Shit fucking hammered. Hammered. That's drunk as fuck. Also, blood detected THC, which, I mean, who knows? THC doesn't matter. .280, that's the one.

You're drunk. That's it. That's the one. You're drunk. That's it. So anyway, they said that they found an unsealed bottle of Grey Goose vodka on the front passenger floorboard during the time of the crash. You have to be kidding me. She's drinking straight vodka?

Straight from the bottle vodka as she drives. Unbelievable. So she doesn't give a fuck is what that says. Not a fuck given. She is gross, man. Fucking disgusting. Unbelievable. She admitted later to drinking vodka earlier in the night.

Her attorney asked that she be allowed to stay free but require her to wear an ankle monitor with an alcohol sensor. Just do that. The judge said, this defendant is a threat to the community and i do not feel that a monitor would protect the community it's too easy to evade you ma'am may fuck off yeah jail for you stop killing people stop fucking killing people so yeah she's in jail um obviously he the boyfriend's very upset about it all too it was his car number one so now he doesn't have a car he also said i'm upset about losing the love of my life the mother of of my children, and everything that I have to look forward to in life. That's what I'm upset about.

Sir. There's a dead guy. Yeah, she's still alive. You still got her. Yep. There's a dead man. Also, I got to put a thing here because I saw Bill DeMott, who used to be Hugh Morris, the wrestler. He's a wrestling trainer forever. he's in the wrestling business forever his daughter was killed by a

drunk driver so he fucking hates he hates tammy man he hates her he said quote dui manslaughter means you don't get a pedestal it's time we set the parameters for what's right and wrong but after seven times making the same decision over and over again this is no accident i always knew she was going to change the world um oh oh no then he said about his daughter that his daughter was killed and all this shit so he talks about that i was like he's who's changing the world not tammy she's gonna kill all of us yeah she's gonna kill all of us fuck so that's tammy she's in jail bond revoked and uh in deep shit, we'll just say. Yeah, she's going to go for 20 years, right? She's going for a long time. So anyway, that is Ed Belfort, everybody.

Holy shit, is he a lot of drunken fun, isn't he? Fuck. I don't want to be anywhere near that man when he's drunk. No. Never. I would never want to hang out with that person and have drinks. That is a nightmare. Unpredictable would be the word to uh for him i would say uh

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Good people. Give me the list of people who would never, ever, ever drink a bunch of whiskey, spit in our faces, and try to break into our spa while holding a curtain rod that they ripped out of our drywall. Jimmy, hit me with them. This week's executive producer, Cameron Cushwara, Jordan Bennett, of course, James Setchfield, I think, Maria Weiderker, Collette Cialante, I believe. Amoro Mayo Perez. Jaden Pullingnot. Pulling, you're not? I don't know. Pullingnot?

That'll just make it tighter. And Sade Morganan? Morganan. Morganan? I don't, look. Shit, thank you. If I knew how to pronounce it, I'd probably be in your family. I don't... Look.

Shit, thank you. If I knew how to pronounce it, I'd probably be in your family. Other producers this week are Paula Collins, Alex Hopper, Liz Vasquez, Billy Ray Valentine. You know who he is. Hey, trans places, baby. Susanna Platt. Who we putting out that cools on the floor? Corporal Carl Kirchner, Peyton Meadows, Brandon Schreck, and Savannah Walker are getting married.

Congratulations, you crazy kids. Hey, congrats. Good for you. That seems like the right thing to do. Joey Pepperoni nips. Richard Spencer Jr. is beating cancer. Keep it up, Richard. Nicholas Parker, Robert Hodling, Frank Zakra, the South African bird washer.

That's who that is. Dayman, not to be confused with the night man. Keith Cole, Janice Hill confused with the Night Man. Keith Cole. Janice Hill. Jason Ohanian. Mike East. Happy birthday, Mike. Joy Nix.

Happy birthday. Mariah Ulrich. Scooby Dooch. That's pretty good. Lee Viathan. Paul Lumpkin. Jason with no last name. Amber with no last name.

Michael Chaney. Michelle Pooch. Poche. Poche. Po name. Michael Chaney. Michelle Pooch. Poche. Poche. Poochie. One of those. Amy Healy. Terry Stafford.

Fox Dembo. Daniel Kippen. Caleb Stewart. Jason Transu. Mike with no last name. Stacey Heben. Hyben. Heben.

Heving. I don't know. I'm so dumb. Trevor Hubert. Kaylee Hayes. Shane Blegan, Brock Mitchell, Tony Potts, Alex Jones, I hope not, Christopher Bolander, C.S. Osborne, Ryan Padgett, Matthew Koenigs, Jake Ralston, Kelly Fox, Aaron Zinsley, Johnny Jordan, Tyson Davis, Swack Hamer, Nancy Kelly, Michael Murphy, Kelly Shepard, Lorena Watson, Kyle Daly, David Stainer, Rachel Hartman, Dee Bursey, Lisa Hulch, Catherine Romano, Irish Housden, Greg Amundsen, Jason Kuhl, Santa Hopkins, Frankie and Dave, Thomas Montaquila, Mona Johnson, Amber Green, Jay Field, Amy Ann, Cindy, Annie Bailey, Luke Nowlin, David Chapman, Kristen Lopez, Terry what? Burstyn. That's what it is. Fiona Murray, Diane Antonopoulos.

What? I did it. Carla with no last name. Bailey 119, Brandi Harrison, Ruth Souther. Stephanie Marquette, Tara with no last name. Erica Lynn, Anthony Benanti. Bena, fuck, he's Italian. Uh-oh. God Lynn. Anthony Benabinanti. Benabinanti. Fuck, he's Italian.

Uh-oh. God damn it. It's a problem. Fernando Hernandez. Josh Traber. Andrew Corbett Kelly. Rhonda McMasters. Essence Ray.

Andrews Zappin. Skylina. What? Skylina Ayers. Autistic Seaman. All right. Lisa Marie Hurst. Matthew Dankenbring. Jenna Glover, Cole Sumner, Liz R. Datguyzak, Alyssa Suter, Sage Atterbury, Taylin Boddy, Sherri Lynn Chamillard, Mr. Big, Eric Narson, Gary Soberg, Amber with no last name, Jenny, Jeannie, Jeannie Bonilla, John Tomasek, Jalen White, Susie Emerson, William Ware, Jennifer Murillo, Jessica Rendon, Javier Aguilar, Rihanna, Rihanna, and Davies, Davies, Carrie Overstreet, Lux Sen, I smack this chair constantly. Kendra Scarberry.

Kendra. It's going well. Kendall. Armstrong. Travis Benanti. God damn it. That was accusatory. Kendall.

Armstrong. Step forward. Answer for your charges. Jesus. Candice Walbeck. Judith Carter. Brent Sponsal. Joel Hoyt.

Matt Snelling. Marissa Blockman. Blackmon. Blackman. It's all threats, the only ways it could be. Edward Aponte, Burdenator84, Charlie McMeans, Mike Chekowitz, I don't know. Nick McGowan, Lindsay Chansley, Bane Turnbow, Wendy Steer, Jason Goodwin, Wolf Pussy.

All right. Shauna Rives, Chandler Haskell, Carrie Soperdyer, Brandon with no last name, Corey Clark, Tommy with no last name, Fred Thomas, Kirk Wildermuth, Allison Brantham, Heather Ashley, Shadi Bogdan, Stephanie Seguida, AJ with no last name, Amanda Hosey, Jessica James, Abby Thorne, Noah Hernandez, Hannah S., Jeremy Eves, Michael Banks, Luke with no last name, Michael Neblett, Michael Banks, Luke with no last name, Michael Neblett, Terry A. Tiff, Zachos, MD, PhD, DVM, Diplomat, American College of Veterinary Surgeons. She's a big deal, evidently. Renee Patterson, Ian Black, Ian, I think, Sarah Nielsen, Lala with no last name, Brad Lutz, Craig Driscoll, Shan with no last name, Marshall Banana. Ava Bowling. Tara Hacker. Praise Hewn.

Andrea Menes. Michael Ferguson. Yeah, Paula with no last name. Tracy Moyer. Mike Crotchburns, James. Junior, though. Samantha Danielle. It's an old problem. Rylan H.

Karina Schmidt. Nathan Williams. James Acamano. Jesus. Angelina Groman. David Horn, Ashley Laverne Amanda Herring Cameron Hatfield, Eric with no last name and Allison Nelder that's who it is, thank you guys

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