Crime in Sports - #316 - The Finger Of Doom - The Sanctifiedness of John Hopoate

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

This week, we look at a guy who was so rough in Rugby, that he ended up having to become a boxer, in the middle of his career. He fought, threw cheap shots, and even used his fingers for purposes that certainly aren't legal, in any sport. He also consorted with alleged drug dealers, beat people outside of bars, and had quite an interesting trip to the local grocery store. But that's just the *finger*tip of the iceberg, as this man has done enough crazy things for several lives, including having 11 children! Have all your kids be rugby stars, switch from one violent professional sport to another, and be able to intimidate your opponents with only a single finger with John Hopoate!!Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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his name because i looked up the pronunciation then i watched then i watched things with him in it uh so announcers would say his name and they say it different in different accents that's a fucking problem john oh god hop a hop a late hop a wait we'll say how do we spell this h-o-p-o-a-t-e oh boy hope it's but they call them hoppa so that's it's gotta be hoppa it's gotta be hop we'll call him john hey john that's easier let's go john john is a character to say the least this guy is i mean he plays rugby and he also boxes as we'll get into which i mean my one sports brain damage not quite enough i think i don't think my head's been battered around enough for my lifetime i think i need to get into something else where now people just directly punch me in the face but i mean if there

are two sports that are an easy transition to uh that are different you know what i mean yeah those are probably like bo jackson from football to baseball that seems crazy to me those are different sports yeah those are completely different yeah deon utilizing two different things yeah rugby to boxing seems like a fairly easy transition aggression Aggression, either way. But it seems like, as we'll find out, a lot of Australian boxers are just rugby players who are not rugby players anymore. So it's, yeah, they start boxing after that. So it seems like they go hand in hand. He is born January 16th, 1974. This guy here.

He's from Tonga, actually. Born on the Isle of Tonga in the South Pacific is it yeah it's oh wait Tonga wrestlers from there a lot of them shit is Tatanka from there no Tatanka was actually one of the few real Native Americans that actually wrestled as a Native American he actually he's a him and Wahoo McDaniel are the only two real ones of all time everybody else was just Italians with a fucking headdress on literally that's all they were Chief J Strongbow Italian guy Jack Scarpa is his name so unbelievable there you go you get all of that so and he's from Tonga a lot of wrestlers from Tonga Tonga is known basically Tonga is one of those places it's like Samoa where it's got a

reputation whether right or wrong or whatever I don't know if this would be considered like a prejudice, but I don't fucking think so. It's got a reputation of these are really tough people and you shouldn't fuck with them. Like that's kind of a that's the reputation with them. Usually, you know, I would imagine. Is Samoa near Hawaii? It's over there. No, it's it's it's way down. It's way out there, though.

Yeah, it's it's it's it's far. It's real far. It takes it's far. It's real far. It's a long plane ride. Closer to Japan? Yes, yes. Closer over in that direction than over here. But the Pacific is so vast, it's just kind of in the middle of it. Yeah, it's huge.

And it's south, too, so it's not like Japan's way up here. It's like South Pacific. So it's fucking out there. I mean, you look at it and you go, Jesus Christ. I'd be terrified if I was there because I'd feel like it's all this ocean and this little speck. I would never look at a globe if I lived there ever. It would just be terrifying all the time. Some of those places, when I look at a globe, I'm like, how did we even know that was there prior to planes?

How the fuck did they get there? That is just some, Jesus. They really had some go-getter. We should enslave those people that's what then they stopped probably what it was probably more we need help yeah probably more realistic he was born in nuku uh nuku uh alafa tonga luckily that's the last tongan name of a city i have to say because he moved to australia when he was a little kid so lucky for me he moved to australia and i don't have to pronounce any more tongan towns because i had some forethought that's embarrassing for me it

really is i don't know how the fuck to say that so they moved to australia he lived in the manly area which is very manly um it's all australia yeah absolutely um this which is outside of sydney it's just in the sydney area before moving to the western suburbs of Sydney as a teenager. Now, he's always been a Mormon as well. Is that right? That's what makes this so just an odd story. missionary work and especially on islands and places like that they love going to islands yeah places where they yeah places where they feel like they can go and and i don't know maybe they haven't had as much outside contact or whatever and it's an easier sell you know what i mean if you if it's somebody in like you know columbus ohio they've had people knock on their door saying you know what the truth is and they're like yeah i heard it it's fine maybe in tonga they're like what happened now no what's that again come again i don't know i'm not sure but um i've never never seen it never seen it no the mountains they look beautiful well come on

but i like i said i don't know if that's true or not i'm just saying but there's a lot of um a lot of people from islands that are mormons that's a That's a big deal. So he was he grew up, like I said, in Manly, moved to the suburbs of Western suburbs of Sydney, they call it there. And they said that right away he was a promising a coach to participate in Manly there where he represented the what is this? The fuck my life. NSW is that the North Northwest region. Yeah. The Northwest South region. The under 19s. Yeah. North South North South Wales. under 19s yeah north south north south wales he's from north south wales everybody it's very confusing what do you that's what do you expect from the guy he was confused his whole life of course he's going to turn to crime for christ's sake this is basically wales right that's what you say i guess yeah that would be central i think

north south wales so the Wales. So the under 19. Apparently, right away, they noticed what a good player he was. He's a very balls-out player from what I've seen. He runs hard. He fights. He does other crazy shit. But everybody says that he, on the field, he is, and you can see it, and even like they're saying as a child, he's so fucking arrogant.

And so he's such a dick on the field. It's crazy. Like, I don't know what it's the weirdest thing for a child. Yeah. For a Mormon child to be like to be like, you know, he's like talking like the third person. Like he's Ricky Henderson. Probably when he's eight is a really weird thing for me i don't know you know you don't picture that it's just strange but everybody said he's so good but he's just such a dick it's hard to like him like

that was that was really the rap on him uh either way when he's 18 he gets married here and he And he marries Brenda is her name. They will have 11 children. Holy. He has one of them that they just had like five years ago. My word. And at this point in time, he has a five-year-old daughter and a nine-year-old granddaughter. Stop that. So, yes, this is your Aunt Baby. This is there. I introduced you to your Aunt Baby your aunt yeah here she is and here she is change your aunt's diapers you lazy shit let's

go what the fuck is that that's no good that's how long of a of a stretch in between these kids there are that you can have that and make it possible. So that is really weird right there. I mean, it's pretty common throughout the world. I imagine that that's happened several times, but it does not make it less weird. No, it doesn't. But if she gets pregnant when she's 16, if they choose to, they can pretend the baby belongs to Denise. That's true, yeah. Because that'll actually be, she'll be like 20 at the time,

so that'll be good for everybody, I think, right? And nobody's any wiser. That's the only saving grace out of this whole thing for the whole family. Other than that, I'm not sure. So, yeah, he says later on, this is what he said in 2019, quote, if I didn't get married young i would be locked up now 100 what does that mean he he's i don't understand when you hear his story you're gonna go wait a second his wife tempered this what would he have been doing if he was not married then because

this is crazy and you were locked up quite often what What are you talking about? There would be bodies. There's not a lot of, like, Mormon dads with, like, nine kids where the wife has to go bail them out of jail for some crazy street crime. That doesn't happen that often. It's just not normal. Too busy feeding those mouths. Feeding those mouths or, you know, recruiting more mouths or some shit. I don't know. So they have a son who's born in 1992 as well.

And their son, they're older kids here because they've actually, the ones that are adults at this point, I'll kind of give you a background on what they did as they're born here because all of them are great rugby players too. They're all great athletes. Absolutely. They're all pros. They're all doing fantastic.

Will, the oldest here, he was a 16-year-old prodigy for Manly in 2009 in the Toyota Cup Under-20s competition. Okay. Good for him. He made his national rugby, the NRL, debut a year later and played 22 NRL games over the next two seasons and in 2011 became the second youngest

player to be selected for the north south wales as we'll from now on ever call it the north southwest north southwest for a uh for scored wait be selected for north southwest for score to try in his state of origin debut i don't know what the fuck that means, but if you know rugby. So he put points on the board in the first game. He did something. He won a premiership with Manly a month later, but then walked away from the sport to undertake a two-year religious mission with the Mormon church. Wow.

So, yeah, imagine like a basketball prodigy who comes out of high school and is like a LeBron, is drafted high and is doing great for two years and the youngest player to do this and that. He's rookie of the year and he's like, hold on. Yeah, fade that part. I am going to go on a mission for a couple of years. Keep that, you know, in the NBA it would be $50 million on the table. Here it's not quite that kind of money. So his son did that. table here it's not quite that kind of money so so his son did that his son also uh he returned to the nrl in 2014 to play for the paramata eels the eel you want an eel to be your mascot

slithery it's not even a snake scary it's pretty scary i guess but it looks the electric ones the other ones who gives a shit looks like a giant slug it's just gross the eels look like what what will spit out at the end of uh stranger things they thought he was all good again in season one or whatever and then he's like goes in the bathroom during thanksgiving dinner spits out an eel uh he refused to play on sundays during the 2016 season due to his mormon faith but then he was uh he had to backtrack on that the following year because they all they play a lot of games on sundays and they were like listen bro you got a contract homie

it's just like you can kind of pick so i guess now he's playing football on sundays but he said that uh later on who knows at any time he could decide to you know take the sabbath off and you never know so the now back to dad here back to john in his rugby league career he uh he is recruited to the manly club like we said and uh he's very good for the new new south wales team here 1993 he joins the manly warringa what the fuck is that warringa warringa i don't fuck who knows man i don't know. Who knows, man? I don't know. It's Australia. I can't.

I can't. You know what I'm saying? I love Australia because they're crazy, but I don't know what that means. I don't know. I'm sure it's some sort of- It's a deadly fucking animal, whatever that is. It's an animal or some sort of aboriginal word. You know what I mean?

I have no idea. Native word. Warringa sounds like something that you walk over it and it bites your balls. It does. Oh, Moringa. And you run away. Oh, the Moringa got me. The Moringa got me.

No, unleash the Roo. Tell the Roo to get him. Unleash the Roo army. Do it. Do it. As you, like, fall to the ground. Does it start with an M or a W? W.

Okay, Warringah. Warringah. fall to the ground does it start with an m or a w w okay waringa waringa doesn't everybody you have like a pen of ruse that you can set free as you're like as an army a kangaroo army over there yeah because they also keep them for dinner well yeah you never know it's so wild to me that they eat them i like that you can spar with something and then eat eat it afterwards that's a very yeah we don't we don't punch cows yeah that cow what my ass well something and then eat it afterwards. That's a very. Yeah, we don't punch cows. Yeah. That cow whooped my ass. Well, I'm going to eat it later, so I feel better about myself.

It's fascinating. He was 19 when he signed with the club in 93, and yeah, he's playing that year. That year he has four appearances. I guess they were three and one in wins and losses while he was there. Seems to have no, from what I found in the stats, no T's or G's, though. So that's not good. You've got to have some. Listen, man. And his GK percentage doesn't exist.

So I don't know what happened exactly, what he's doing. Get your head out of your ass, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, try. GKs, you can get a lot of those you can get a bigger contract next year that's what i mean you'd be like listen no one's no one's doing more t's than me buddy like i don't understand it what are we talking about here i don't get paid for that take a look at my g's my my t's and my gks who's gonna gk percentage like me That's what I'm asking you. Like, what are we fucking talking about?

So 1994 for Manley. He's a six appearances. They go four and two. And again, just a dash in the TG and GK percentage and FG column. So I don't know. Get it together, sir. Bro, you got to do something right here. But they seem happy with him he also played in the Tonga National Rugby League team in the 1994 Pacific Cup but he was I guess in and out

of the first team and he wasn't really didn't have a regular position so oh he was just kind of a alternate he was 19 yeah I guess they could oh yeah yeah pick him up here um early night in 1995 is when he started to get uh good here apparently in 1995 he went to score 11 tries from his first 11 first grade appearances and uh then it says here subsequently led the try scoring table so hey i mean he's effort is what we're saying he's trying very hard we know nothing about rugby please find our ignorance charming we're not claiming to know anything about rugby we don't know shit about rugby we don't do rugby episodes often enough to like spend weeks learning rugby it's just one of those things yeah that's the other problem we can watch it that doesn't mean we know what the hell is going on or so basically watch it and be

impressed with what's happening yeah and i and they could be putting points on or racking up stats all over the place and i don't know what the fuck they just did they could be sucking and i wouldn't know they're like wow that guy's dominating he's the worst player on the field i have no idea what's happening as soon as they all go nuts i'll assume something good just yeah hey the aussies just it's they just set somebody on fire they must be happy they're crazy over there so that's worth saying we don't know anything about it we're not trying to know anything about it just take this as comedy uh the rugby parts because we're idiots. There you go. What the fuck do I know? What the fuck do I know? Exactly.

So he does well there. 1995 seems to be when he's really having a good year here. He does well toward the end of the season, and then he has an injury. So there's a problem there. And he has a son born in 1995 as well, Jameel. No, he doesn't name anybody john yeah there's no john juniors which jameel jameel he uh now jameel jameel's gonna have his own episode so we're not gonna talk too much about jameel because i fucking looked up jameel and went oh my god jameel has

more than his dad this is crazy uh jameel was also a good rugby player uh but he was i guess cut by paramata and manly for several off the field incidents including multiple assault charges domestic assault charges uh he did a year in jail so jesus it's hard to stay on the roster when you're in jail for a year that's's a problem. That's a tough fam. Yeah. And also, well, it gets worse for him because he's in jail currently, I think, or he's out on bail awaiting trial. But in 2021, he was accused of being part of three people who basically were importing the most cocaine from Europe of anybody on the entire continent of australia that's what he was doing um yeah he went to jail i understand moving a little in town no no jesus

christ importing that's that's out of that's out of control this is wild and i think we have more on him later like exactly what happened because it was a crazy scene like he tried to he got away in a car and fucking tried to you know got away from the cops and they finally caught him and it's a mess so and all that is jameel that's jameel jameel's a fucking mess but way to go mormonism yeah that's what i mean that's he it's very strange dad though has been and it's gone back and forth. He's challenged it. But the police in Australia, the organized crime police, have come to the rugby league and said, hey, this guy's connected to organized crime people, John. So just so you know that. And then he gets mad and says, prove it. And then they don't.

But he doesn't sue them. So that makes me think that, I don't know. Who knows if it's true or not. So anyway, back to dad, away from the son's insane crimes. I'm telling you, the son, I was reading some of the shit he did, and I'm like, oh, this is an episode. Holy fuck, man. We're going father and son.

It's going to be him and the Mayweathers are going to be the first father and son team. Who's going to get it first? Who's going to be the first father-son team here? Who's going to get it first? Who's going to be the first father-son team here? So anyway, John went on to score a total of 21 tries in 1995. How about that? He was second in the top try scoring table to his teammate, Steve Menzies.

Oh, boy. I think we've talked about him before. Yeah, we have. That is a very unfortunate name. That's a tough name, sir. Oh, Jesus Christ. Just call me Steve. Just call me Steve.

It's his nickname. Just call me Steve. Wow. They had two of the top people in the entire league, huh? Yeah, apparently. They were crushing it there. And, yeah, they went 22 and 3 that year jesus the team did and uh he had 84 points john so good for him the um and now an international play in 95 the tongan rugby team wanted to pick him

because he was born there uh but the uh i guess the arl that league selected him in the kangaroos team under the residency rule so okay he had to stay there and be a kangaroo so i mean that's a you know that goes that's i it happens to me all the time like it happened to me as a teenager and i was like oh man i gotta be a kangaroo again. Pigeon holding to being a roo. Ah, man. So I guess he played in the opening match of the cup. I guess there's a rugby World Cup apparently. Yeah.

Yeah, it goes on. Yeah, World Cup. It's a rugby World Cup. But he didn't score and then made a big mistake and fucked up the game and then the English team won. Oh, no. If you're in Australia, you don't want to fuck up the game, and then the English team won. Oh, no. If you're in Australia, you don't want to fuck up the game so the English beat you. That doesn't fly there. They don't want that at all.

No matter what sport we're playing, beer pong, anything, don't let those fuckers win. If you're going to lose to an Englishman, just stab him in the throat and run away. That's the rule in Australia, usually. That's considered have some pride. Throw a poisonous snake at him. Yeah. That's like taking the cyanide pill. It's listen go out with some dignity all right that's what that is right there oh man so i guess the following match against south africa though he scored three

times and the team won 86 to 6 holy shit which seems like a huge blowout i don't know if it's like football where that would be like wow people be talking about that for decades people would walk out of that in the second whatever period holy shit like if there was a football game that happened an nfl game that was 86 to 6 we'd talk about it all the time like remember that crazy game like how did that happen that was wild 86 yeah that would be more storied than the 0-16 Lions. Oh, man, 86-6. Fuck me, that would be amazing. That's embarrassing.

That's sad. It really is. So, now, I guess the World Cup here this year, he had two appearances, three, I guess they're tries the t's yeah three tries and 12 points sounds good i guess that's good yeah uh 1996 he's back with manly and um he's very good again that's the thing he's he's doing well he has 11 tries this year they go 19 and 4 which seems pretty good that's you know i guess um i suppose i don't fucking know 19 wins seems pretty good. That's, you know, I guess. I suppose. I don't fucking know.

19 wins is pretty good. There's a team called the South Sydney Rabbitohs. Yeah. I've got a t-shirt of theirs. The Rabbitohs. Yeah. They're good. I like them a lot.

Oh, yeah. They're green and red and white, like Christmas colors. It's adorable. Who doesn't like that? South Sydney, baby. There you go. How many teams are in one city there? I don't know. Because Manly's adorable. Who doesn't like that? South Sydney, baby. There you go. How many teams are in one city there? Because Manly's close, and then you've got South Sydney.

All the cities there are all close together anyway. Well, yeah, they're either in the middle of the desert or on the coast, but other than that, there's really not much else going on. Otherwise, it's the desert. And in Australia, they have the good sense not to live in the desert, most them that's the other thing they don't they don't move there no is there a big boom in any of your just completely barren moon like fucking it looks like mars is there is that a big rush there because in our country people are like oh wow we do it all the time oh yeah it looks like the moon there but land is cheap well no shit it looks like the moon there, but land is cheap. Well, no shit. It looks like the moon.

You just said that. That's why it's cheap. You take a step and there's a literal poof. Yeah. That's a problem. You look like fucking Buzz Aldrin. What the hell's happening? Your ankles and mid-calf are very dirty. Very dirty.

But the land's cheap. Filthy all the time. But hey, it's cheap out there. So he has 11 tries that year, like I said, so that seems good. 97, I guess he only had two tries in his first 12 games, which that's not a lot. It wasn't going well. Then they play against the St. George Dragons, and he scored three tries. And then over the next six games, he scored eight more tries.

So he closed it out well. The season didn't start well for him, and then he crushed it at the end here. He has 25 appearances at 15 tries by the end of the season, 60 points. The team goes 17-6. Is that good? That's great. I don't fucking know. It sounds good to me.

I can't do it. Double-digit wins, single-digit losses. That sounds great. Right. I'm into it. So 1997 uh his daughter is born um i don't know how to pronounce this um my mailie m mail with an e on the end mail like i'm sending you something in the mail with an e on the end m-a-i-l-e huh mailie mail

mayali my only my holly my illy i don't fucking know maile that is how a i'm sure it's beautiful but i don't know mail on their mailbox yeah mail i'm sure it's beautiful i don't know how to say it i'm not sure it probably is i'm sure it's wonderful and means something deep and meaningful i have no idea what so i'm not gonna insult that's written on the side of mailboxes all over Alabama. All over the place. Arkansas is the center of it probably. M-A-I-L-E. There we go. Mayo. Keep on the extra E.

Make sure it comes here. So that said, let's just say Grace. So far, he's a little arrogant, but he's got some kids. He's getting better. He's playing in got some kids. He's getting better. He's playing in the World Cup. He's doing well. He seems to have a good reputation. March of 1998, in a game against Brisbane here, they play.

He's charged with contrary conduct. That's so fast. In the cops? Like, by the cops? No, no, no. In the game contrary conduct yeah apparently he was uh then in parentheses it says dissent so i don't know if he was trying to foment a revolution against the referees if it was that kind of dissent or he just said no i'm not going to go to the penalty box or the sin bin as they call it yeah i'm not sure what the fuck is

happening here that's what they call it every article that's what they call it the sin bin um he pleaded not guilty to it though but he's found guilty because everything that he says he didn't do we pretty much did like in his entire life as we'll talk about he's a great name for a strip club what the sin bin the sin bin i'm sure over there it's probably all of all of them are named that because it's it's genius yeah and you picture them in like a box too and you're like well that's not that's uncomfortable i don't want that can they be free i'd like them to be free to roam i'd like them to roam free really i don't want anybody like my strippers free right i was gonna say yeah get her like a free range thing going on otherwise it's not the same yeah it's it's it's no good the boobs they

get real they're not tender that's the problem if you keep them in a cage too long it's no good that's terrible like their carton i don't understand i never understood like what was the attraction of women dancing in cages like Do you want your women in a cage? Like, and that's not even like some feminist thing. That's just like, I kind of just don't want to creep once though. Right.

Yeah. You put an animal in a cage. That's just weird. I don't want to fuck an animal. You know what I mean? It's just strange. Is it to keep her from us or us from her? Yeah.

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So in 1998, he has 11 tries and 23 appearances. The team's only 12 and 11, though, so that doesn't sound very good. No. That's just over 500 here. I guess his coach gets pissed at him in 1998 after the incident of the contrary dissenting conduct. Nobody likes a contrary person. He said, yeah, you stop trying to stop it with the dissent. I will not handle coup attempts.

I won't do it. Stop arguing with me. So the boss, they call him the club boss. I don't know if that's the owner or the manager or general, who the fuck knows over there. So he said that he needs to either change his ways or stop playing. That's where they're at with him. He's got to cut the shit, basically.

Ultimatum. He said he was appalled by the game he had won. I'm going to read exactly what it says from this article. arthurson was appalled by the manly wingers game against the broncos in the first round with the niggle and back chat furthering his reputation as the league's number one bad boy boy do i hate that yeah back chat yeah niggling and back chatting that seems that's a that is difficult to say that is rough yeah you got to be careful when you unleash that quote you know what i mean have control of your faculties there so you better not be drunk and slur that i'm glad i only took two edibles and not four or five because i could have been in trouble could have cost myself some editing here so uh john said that he's a change well he said before he was a changed man this was

before he went and was dissenting and contrary and, you know, being a general twat here. Yeah. Actually, no, it's an Aussie episode. We can say cunt because we don't mean it in the American context. We mean he's a right cunt. That's what he was over there. So he he said that he wanted to improve and improve his image for the sake of his family. He doesn't want his kids to think he's some kind of.

Embarrassment, James. Yeah. You can't go to the Mormon church and be like, hey, I heard you were being all dissentful and contrary. Like, Jesus Christ. What are you doing that for? He's suspended. And he said a joke to a TV camera, quote, there goes my good reputation. And he kind of shrugged like, whatever, fuck him.

Who cares? And his his the club boss said, quote, if he's turned a new leaf, then I'd hate to see how he would have behaved in the bad old days. He carried on very foolishly throughout. It's a real worry for the manly club. They don't need players to act like that. And if he can't change his behavior, I think he should call it quits i don't like i don't like uh what is this i don't like the way he carries on and i don't know who does well so there you go fan of rugby i would have loved him probably i

love anybody that fucking you fuck the rules those guys yeah yeah you're gonna say it jimmy what is he kind of my kind of guy yeah this is what's so fun coming up here is gonna be the the he's yeah you're gonna he feels real dennis rodman like oh yeah no not quite not quite up to a point and that point is coming up very soon to where you're gonna go oh i oh, I don't think Dennis Rodman would have done that. I mean, that's way different. Yeah. You kind of got to like his attitude of just like, whatever, I don't give a fuck. And then he does some things where you're like, well, that's over the line for me.

I'm sorry. So, 99, only 17 appearances because he's suspended and, you know, he's back chatting. What do you expect from that guy? When you niggle in the game james you're gonna get tossed you're gonna get tossed yeah you're gonna get put in the sin bin and then you come out you niggle some more then you're back chatting and they're gonna toss you that's how it works they're gonna toss your salad which over there doesn't mean that i'm sure i don't know in the sin bin right in the sin bin it's got toaster salad in the sin bin everybody's like yeah people are like cheers the fuck is happening so he ends up on a different uh team here he i guess the west's west's tigers in 2000 he signs with and I don't know if it says

newly merged team so I don't know if they merged with I don't know who the fuck they merged with they merged with somebody maybe Manly I'm not sure they merged with a team? yeah it seems like two teams merged I'm not sure what happened here

either way he only gets five tries that year though so that's not great. Main reason is he's suspended several times during the season. Because he turned over a new leaf. He's good now. He's, you know, ready to put on his Elder John name tag and go knock on some doors. But it doesn't quite happen that way. He's also charged, in addition to being suspended several times,

he's charged with again contrary conduct late in the season contrary son of a bitch stop being so contrary oh my god uh this resulted the contrary conduct is a charge that comes down after the game this doesn't result from one incident this results from over 10 separate incidents during the game so he's just 10 times a complete asshole so much that his body of work for the game equals contrary oh no that's how it works so this was in september of it uh september 2000 it was there was the west tigers versus saint george illawarra okay saint george illawarra uh the jar the charges grade two contrary conduct there's levels of this my god you were caught you

were a grade two contrarian that time what a second degree wow what a prick. You know what I mean? What a real asshole. He pleads not guilty. And he is found guilty, of course. And you, sir, may fuck off. Suspended for two matches. He's out. He's out there. was in september but oh no that was in june then in the backwards dates sorry it's fucking me up that was in june then in july of that year when he comes back he's again cited for this is west tigers versus melbourne this is the one they were talking about this is 10 incidents referred to by the league and this is just a misconduct charge you're up you're above contrary it's a misconduct charge you're up you're above contrary it's god to misconduct now he's found guilty on four counts of misconduct jesus and sentenced to you sir may fuck off three matches of suspension the governing board is strict with their conduct and contrariness yeah they're this is just for you get suspended three matches out of what is like 25 in a season here seems like 24 you get suspended three matches for being like a contrary

prick to shunt yeah for being a cunt you know where i'm going you can be a quarterback and have 48 charges of sexual assault and fucking you get six games from the nfl you know what i'm saying so it's like 30 different ladies six games whereas over here you're kind of a prick to the referee and they're like three matches you're out contrary we won't have niggling where as here uh you know they those girls i'm sure would have much rather been had some niggling you know what I mean, than whatever the hell happened to them. I want that contrary shit to translate into the NBA. I'm tired of watching these fuckers complain about no fouls, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's crazy because if you watch people now in the NBA

complain about no fouls, it's like, go back to, like, 1994. People would get clotheslined and there'd be no whistle and the ref would be like, shut up, bitch. Go down there and play. It was like a completely. Dude, watching highlights of Bill Russell play, it was assault. It was criminal what they were doing. Back then you could take people's goddamn heads off.

You had to be tough to play in the paint back then. You had to be a bad, bad man to play in the paint. If there was a miss, when people would miss shots like you brace holy shit who's getting laid out because every time somebody went to the fucking floor when you got a rebound it was automatic to clear out with your elbows that was what you used to do which i mean the last guy to do that in the nba was probably charles barkley i think that just hasn't been done very often because you'll get a foul for it when you clock somebody in the eye but that was get out of my space motherfucker and

then you can throw your outlet pass because you've cleared the area they treat it really like new york walking i'm i got the ball here yeah it's it's playground that's what it's more like that it's more playground less they've let these aau pricks take the game over anyway possession mattered and now it's like now possession is like how you interpret who's got what. It's crazy. It's fucking nuts. So his team is sticking up for him, though. They were, the Tigers, they said they were highly critical of the charge against him.

And they didn't think that he should be, that they should come down on him so hard just for a touch of backtalk and misconducts. So, but apparently there was a brawl and that was a problem as well so you know he like set off a brawl there was all sorts of shit going on which i guess happens in rugby but it was all his fault is the problem you're watching those oh it's fun yeah it's absolutely fun the one guy uh bullock is his name, which is funny because if you say that in an accent, that's perfect. He's called Balls. Balls. Balls said, I've just had a debate with David over the contrary conduct charge. He's a guy for the team saying he's been arguing with the league here.

And John was involved in an 11-second altercation that he could be suspended for two weeks. It's a three three game penalty because he was missing for all but 14 minutes of friday's match as well so he was suspended for he was like kicked out all the time anyway so um they said that basically it was on national television so the team is saying are we being like are you coming down extra hard on us because it was a public thing yeah yeah what's going on here? But either way, they get fined. Also, the team gets fined $25,000.

It's a whole big deal over this. Apparently, he did a lot of bad shit in this game. Really? I mean, I don't know. I'm sure it was fine as far as I'm concerned. But the team says, quote, I'm not taking any notice of any finger pointing from Auckland or Townsville. The two incidents had nothing in common. I guess there was fights earlier in the year.

Now, the team says they want audio tapes of the refs because they think rather than their guy being an asshole, even though he has a history of being an asshole, it's really the refs had it out for him. And they want the audio of them talking to each other so they can hear that they were like, oh, let's get John, basically. Give me the body cam. Yeah, they're seeking that. The audio, they said he was being targeted

from the video referee's box, is what they were saying. So, yeah, they were saying that he was, holy shit, yeah, he's, oh, what does this that he was, holy shit. Yeah, he's, oh, what does this mean? Okay. The Tongan and Australian international must defend the, which is him, John, must defend the allegation at a deferred hearing next Wednesday night as Hall believes his actions were more serious than the maximum grade five charge, which carries a base penalty of 475 demerit points. Oh. This game is too complicated.

I'm sorry. Demerit points now? I just got up to tries and goals and shit. What's happening? How many are in your bank? I don't know. How many do you get? Is it like insurance points on your license? How many do you get?

Is it like you have a pool of 1,000? What are we talking about here? So either way, I guess going back and forth, the league notes several incidents. This isn't an uncommon thing that happens. This happens all the time with this asshole. So anyway, they said that the West's chief executive here, Martin Bullock, said it's just amazing.

We're absolutely astounded by it because they said it twice during the radio coverage of the match. Linesman advised, I guess, advised the referee about something that John did, and the guy didn't see it himself, but other people told him about it, even though it did happen because we saw it on camera later on. But, you know, at the time, he didn't see it. So anyway, the Bullock guy who's our silver-haired man here, he said, we've never seen anything like it, and I need to seek more information from the league as to how such a multitude of charges were arrived at. They must really want him on the field. They must really suck.

He said, we've heard those unconfirmed reports that that's really want him on the field they must really suck he said he said we've heard those unconfirmed reports that that's something that's on the video um uh that the referee was actually doing providing a commentary on his game it sets a rather in incredible precedent in terms of assessing players involvement in a game to what extreme is this being taken i guess the refs were commenting on the players as they were going. John's mother, Mele, she went on TV and said, quote, I think it's racial. I think it's racist because he's black. I don't know why they hate my son so much.

I don't know why they're driving blacks away. I'm still waiting for an answer, and my community is waiting, too. We're in America. I have no fucking idea anything about that. I don't know the history of any of that. I don't know how that works over there. So maybe, maybe not. I have no fucking idea.

They said the league said that they had no knowledge of any racism and there's no racism involved. They said the NRL doesn't lay charges. It's an independent commissioner, but I would reject that notion out of hand. That's the league president or whatever. Uh, John, though, he's going to defend himself. God damn it. He's going there.

Him and his attorneys are having a strategy meeting to appeal the whole thing. Get it back uh his manager said we're developing a strategy for his defense or his defense in this case the charges will be vigorously defended wow i guess so his name is wayne beavis so i can't take him seriously his part his partner jonathan butthead uh came in and said this afterwards that is awesome wayne beavis no i'm not taking you i'm not taking your opinion on the law seriously wayne beavis that's gotta be brutal for him it's gotta be right it has to be a life was fine and then one day it changed they did the world and now it sucks.

Fuck me. I suck here. So Beavis said it's a pretty heavy charge considering referee Stephen Clark is one of the top two referees in the game and he penalized Hoppa once, maybe twice. The touch judges didn't see anything. Melbourne was not. We're not concerned about him. I don't know what that fucking means as well. We're not concerned about him. I don't know what that fucking means as well.

They said, though, Beavis is expected to answer, expected an answer yesterday from the Northern Eagles. Oh, that's about a trade. Never mind. Okay. So turns out three match suspension, even after there is this whole appeal process and everything like that. And he's unable to participate in the pool games, which is unfortunate because I think he loves Marco Polo. If it's the warm time of year, it's a much easier place to play.

A little basketball hoop, that's fun in the water. You've got to keep yourself up. It's a good time. So they're trying to do that. They said that for now they're going to – he's suspended. There's nothing they can do about it, basically. What are you going to do? Anyway, he has five tries that year.

2001, a son, Albert, is born. Yeah. And apparently everybody said he was the most talented of all of them, of all the brothers, of the whole family. Yeah, Albert here. He played rugby, obviously, played rugby league and rugby union at Australian schoolian school boy representative level oh wow uh not bad but then at the age of 20 um he basically had to quit because he tore shit loads of ligaments in his knees all the time and had to have two knee reconstructions already by 20 so you know he was kind of fucked basically 20 and Tony and Tony. Wow.

His brother, Jamil, the criminal one, said he's the best yet. I'd like to say I am, but all the family reckon he's the best one to come through. He's really strong, has a deadly left fend, and he's a humble kid. All right. Well, good for him. Yeah. Is that like a left hook, like a punch? Beats the shit out of me. Maybe he's good kicking with his left.

I don't know. They also say he deserves his debut he tried to play with the big boys in his backyard but he got bashed up when he was younger that's what made him so good as a player now he got used to the bullying at home wow if you play with your older brothers a rough sport yeah you're gonna be really a lot better against kids your age probably that's just the way it is but you'll probably have a shorter career because older kids beat the living shit out of your knees you've been having the shit beaten out of you i don't know if an acl has anything to do with your brother checking you into a fucking fence when you're a kid probably you might just have weak knees yeah maybe kicking your knee from the side it's not that left shouldn't be working keep your left keep your left steady you kick with your right jesus christ man what are we talking about a better fend i don't know what to tell you that's the problem the tries and fends he's not trying

enough to get these fends that's the problem so 2001 his season started out like shit john um here and then it got well hilarious but way worse um this is a this is a crime in sports first and where you might go oh why would you do that okay now um march of 2001 he's in a game and basically uh his behavior that day is described as quote disgraceful by the opposing team's coach here um he was sent to the sin bin and uh his teammates whatever he ended up uh losing anyway the game they lost the game but that doesn't matter so this was after he said he was good now and all reformed the other coach said if john is reformed then he needs to go back to school. We have a number of complaints about him from our players. We'll be checking the video, and if we can verify those complaints, we'll certainly be putting something into the league.

His behavior was disgraceful. That's what he says. Now, do you want to know what he did against the North Queensland Cowboys? More than anything. Okay. He fingered three players' assholes during the game. That's the best way to put it. He jammed his fingers up three different people's assholes during the game.

It's hilarious as like a... Because it's the last thing you expected me to say. That's why you laughed. If I said he kicked him in the face with his cleats you wouldn't have laughed right this the last thing you expect me to say is he fingered their assholes on the field of play that's why i said dennis rodman never tried to finger anybody's butthole that's digitally raped people that's yeah that's above and beyond even dennis rodman he'd be like hey man listen that's sexual assault

i'm not doing that even i draw a line you know what i mean fuck it's pretty disgraceful i would call that description that's a very good description of it solid description that's disgraceful no that's not even close to hyperbole he fingered people's assholes during the game jimmy on top of their shorts or did he go in i have a i'm gonna post a picture i have that's a screenshot where they have where his middle finger with the shorts outside the shorts god is he's up past his knuckle up this guy's asshole he got caught and in with it. He's laying on his back and he just reaches up and hugs this guy up his asshole. He did it like a mechanic.

It's amazing. Like a mechanic on a creepy crawler. Boom. Yeah. And check the oil. And check the, he wanted to check the transmission fluid and make sure everything was okay. That is amazing. Three different people. So it's not just like one guy where he's like, I got to see what's in his butthole.

I don't know what it is. He's really testing the refs today. This is wild. The first incident occurred during the seventh minute of play. That's early. How much could someone piss you off in seven minutes that you need to stick your finger in their asshole what are we talking about he was frustrated fast and who thinks of that as retaliation how's that considered contrary behavior no that's contrary behavior whatever he did before this is niggling right here this is

forcibly what that's called forcible digital penetration you say niggling around the kids so they don't sound so technical you know they don't know what the fuck is happening man oh my god my stomach hurts this is insane we've never had anybody in all the sports we've played or not played but all we've done we've never had then he fingered somebody's asshole we've never had that football player we've had a ball grab but not like we've had vinnie jones yeah yeah that's a that the ball grab. And that's what this is compared to. But it's like compared to that, this, that is nothing. A ball grab.

This is a fucking. He's like searching for polyps for Christ's sake. He was. That's the thing. At the end of the game, actually, one of the guys thanked him because he said, you really should see a proctologist because I felt a, I felt something up there. I'm just going to say, have you had blood in your, just go see somebody. Was it prostate cancer awareness month or something?

He saved a man's life, Jimmy. That's stage three. You better get in there. We're laughing, but this is, you know, in the eyes of the law, this is rape. I mean, you can't do this you can't do this shit but apparently on the on a rugby field the law has no precedence here apparently this is all rugby law now this is kevin spacey territory finger people's buttholes this is travolta territory this is like come on in and give me a massage. This is crazy.

This is wild. Kevin Spacey lost House of Cards for this shit. Yeah, Jesus Christ almighty. This is like Bill Cosby, but he didn't drug anybody first. These people remember every terrifying second of it. This is awful, man. Oh, man. He ends up being suspended for 12 weeks out of this, we'll talk about. Four weeks a try?

That's pretty good. The commissioner called it disgusting, violent, offensive behavior. Yeah. True, true, and true. Check, check. He claimed that he, this is amazing, he claimed that he was just trying to irritate the other players. Oh, that'll do it. He told a panel of judges that he was just trying to give them all a wedgie with his fingers.

Well, technically, sticking someone's shorts all the way up their asshole is a wedgie with your finger. But you also, your finger was up there, too. That's the problem. The golden rule of a wedgie is only the underwear go up there, not a finger. Otherwise, it's a different thing. It's called a niggle at that point. It's a different. It's too much.

It's too much. You niggling bastard. That is a bridge too far. It's a butthole too fucking far is what it is. It's a finger too deep. A butthole too fucking far is what it is. It's a finger too deep. A butthole too tight. He said that. He denied he did anything wrong.

And on top of that, he had the balls to say, quote, I'm a great believer that what happens on the field should stay there. It's not a Vegas brothel, you fucking idiot. It's not a Henderson, Nevada brothel. It's a goddamn. It's not a Vegas brothel, you fucking idiot. It's not a Henderson, Nevada brothel. It's a goddamn, it's on television. I have a screenshot of him with his finger up somebody's asshole that I'll post on the social media. Real Vegas approach. What is this, the bunny ranch? The fuck is happening?

Real Vegas approach to frustrating other players. Wow. So even if i did finger them we shouldn't be talking about it off the field three the quote the three victims in the case glenn morrison peter jones and paul bauman all disagreed with john's reasoning it says in this article which is to put it mildly according to jones this is peter Jones, who sounds like he's like the lost beetle, like they fired him early on. He said, quote, it wasn't a wedgie. That's when your pants are pulled up your arse. I think I know the difference between a wedgie and someone sticking their finger up my bum.

You think Bowman said he was disgusted and couldn't believe it. That's one way of saying it he's also accused of striking halfback nathan fine in the same game and was hit with a charge of contrary conduct and contrary to the true spirit of the game which is an understatement of the year when you're talking about forcible asshole fingering. So he has to go. I guess he has to go for a hearing. There's a letter of protest from from the team that he did this against.

The players were saying that he should be immediately suspended, blah, blah, blah. Oh, my God. This is a great line. They told coach Tim Sheens and his chief executive, Robbie Cryum, that Hope O'Pate had attempted to niggle them during the match by inserting his fingers into their anuses. They really see why niggle means bother. So that is the ultimate niggle. I would say to finger. That's called forevermore. And you should only use that word when talking about fingering an asshole yeah you know i'm telling you right now it's unbelievable chicks are going to be telling their guys it's just a niggle one little niggle

at the end there you know it's going to be a fucking you've played sports james so many different types so many different has it ever occurred to you never and I never thought I better guard my butthole in this situation because someone's gonna try to finger it here I've never thought of that while playing sports I guess I'm lucky I've ever gotten to this is playing basketball on a playground and jokingly pantsing somebody which is hilarious yeah that's that's just funny i mean that's just okay but but there's boxer shorts under there so it's not like anybody's really getting hurt yeah really the most hurt you can get is tripping over those basketball shorts and

cutting your elbow or something on your face yeah there's no sexual assault involved no it's more haha you didn't see me coming asshole now now you're embarrassed i said like sixth grade fifth sixth grade we used to play basketball in elementary school on the playground and the only it was we played like hockey rules the only rule was quote no humping that was the only rule no humping that implies somebody's done yeah because because if they didn't somebody could jump on your back. That's the thing. You go for a layup and someone would jump on your back and then we just go, what are you trying to hump me?

And then it turned into no humping. So that meant no jumping on people's backs. No humping. So no humping. I didn't think to also add no fingering each other's buttholes, please. I didn't think to even fucking add that to the list. And I really should have now that I think about it. The humping is a slang term term it's not actual penetration no one was actually like trying to you know get a fucking get their rocks off on somebody's back luckily but

we did grab like on on layups we'd grab shoulders which is pretty funny too that's not necessarily jumping on them just like grab them because that will. That is crazy how that will ruin you. But we used to have somebody come in and someone would just literally jump on their back and shoulders and take them to the ground. Where they'd have the ball up, ready to go up for a layup, ready to spring. And next thing you know, ball flies this way and they're on their knees on the concrete and then splayed out on their face and that was part of the game so we couldn't have that how how little you can get up in the air with that much extra weight oh right now unexpected especially if you have no idea it's coming that's the other thing you're just like boom oh god oh my god look like joe montana

being hit by leonard marshall there just oh ball goes flying. There's a grass in your helmet. You're like, what's going on here? It's a mess. So, Jesus Christ. This is fucking amazing. Apparently, they also had complaints from players in regards to tackles involving John as well. He was tackling people.

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They said, this is fucking hilarious. This whole thing is crazy. I guess there was a originally is a 12 game suspension. He spends the whole day trying to avoid the media after this happens because they all want to talk to him about fingering people's buttholes. Other players begin alleging that he's attacked them as well. So now he's getting me too'd with yeah and deservedly so now he's getting a me too yeah the victims are piling up now and it's such a weird thing that he did and it gets so much attention that like around

the world people don't even know what rugby is or like there's this guy in australia fingering people's butts during a game isn't that weird very fucking strange here um they they described what happened as unique and uh the the one official said uh quote that the clean living church-going morbid considered niggling opponents fun i don't think he knew what he was saying there he's so repressed he's so repressed he just can't help it yeah um so apparently um they were trying the day that the media was trying to get to him he was doing a private gym session with a kid with down syndrome named tommy who was like he was doing some charity thing here so they couldn't get to him at all and then he just like snuck out a back door and just like disappeared nobody could talk to him and uh yeah uh one of the guys one of the players said i never knew hoppa before i got here this is his teammate but i found out that he's

really a nice bloke anyone who knows john would say the same thing unless you your asshole sore from his finger that's the only way it would be different. So there's all sorts of footage coming in from it. Fox Sports had all this. They were searching video footage trying to find other incidents of butthole penetration. This turned into like a JFK assassination. A real investigation. Frame 234, you can see.

This is when he slides past the first knuckle. Now, this is really an important part of the whole thing. And as you can see in the digit, it continues to go deeper. Yeah, no shit. There's five people who have charged him with this, different people. Wendell Saylor, Michael DeV craig smith aaron uh mule maul and henry fa fafili uh one of the guys sailor wendell sailor said i didn't appreciate getting sodomized i looked at him and said what are you doing yeah what are you doing i can imagine yeah why is your finger in my ass all is like this i never even thought of that. The second time he did it to Mick Devere. Second time he did it to Mick Devere and I complained to the touch judge. Well, he's the guy you complain to when someone's got their finger in your asshole. The touch judge. He's got a doll. You point to whatever it happened. He's the touch judge. He tells you.

and he's the touch judge. He tells you. Show me on the doll where. He said he was laughing about it again. John, not the judge. I think he got, not the judge. He wasn't like, ha ha. He said, I think he got me a third time.

And after that, I said, you're kidding, mate. You're going to get into trouble. The same dude? The same dude. He fingered him three times in one game. And there was five other guys, four other guys guys he loves fingering people's assholes this is a thing that he does move yeah it's his fucking move um yeah they said you're fucking kidding me mate you're gonna get into trouble i guess so uh the 12 match band that they hit him with here is the heaviest imposed in the history of the nrl here and uh wow um this uh one of his teammates john's teammates said about one of the players quote i'm sure jared would rather get a

finger up the backside than be spear tackled he'd still be playing the game yeah he also said that john apologized to the teammates saying quote he said he's sorry john has let the club down himself and the team down so what else can he do except say he's sorry you can start by not fingering people's assholes against their will yeah that's a thing this won't resolve until 2004 by the way this whole wow this is 2001 now it won't resolve till 2004 and he just keeps like playing during the appeal process so it's fucking weird so anyway people are i guess terrified that he's gonna be fucking fingering that secret weapon as fuck right i yeah i guess so he's just walking around with his finger out and going ah ha ha uh his i guess he's there he's getting offers from uh club in Britain and then another club, an NRL club, he said, and one English Super League team, which has also shown interest.

But also Manly, the team Manly, is also offering something. And they said it's going to make sense because he lives there and he wants to play first division and continue to work while making a few bob from football. I don't know what a bob is. I guess a couple bucks. A buck, yeah. I don't know if that's like a quid bob. I don't know. So he said, I would imagine it would take him a month or so to run into condition.

After that, he could be called up by the Eagles if that form is warranted, if his form is warranted. So I guess each NRL club is allowed to spend $500,000 on their second tier, like their minor league team, I guess. But in the case of North Sydney and Manly, they can spend $500,000 each. I guess, I don't know what the fuck happened with North Sydney and Manly. I really should have looked into that more, but there's so much butthole fingering and stuff,

I didn't think that we'd have time to talk about talk about it salary cap there's that's going to be confusing that's going to be real confusing but as so as to not give them an unfair advantage they must nominate a group of players who collectively come under the five hundred thousand dollar cap and only those players can be called up to the nrl okay so they have to like make like a a roster within a roster type of thing uh. If the Eagles wanted to be able to call up John, a call upon John, they would have to make him one of their nominated players and it would be up to the NRL

whether or not that resignation would be accepted. Jesus, this is complicated. The resignation isn't? Okay, it's a question? I don't know what the fuck is happening here. I don't know. I'm so confused i i knew everything i knew everything uh when it was about butthole fingering like i had it down that i can relate to and then

as soon as we go into goddamn rugby i'm lost man it's very simple the difference between where a finger goes and where it shouldn't yeah that's easy that's easy to stay on board hopefully hopefully he's not wearing any rings or anything that's a plus oh boy now he they said he ran 3,976 meters with the ball over the 2002 nrl season which was more than any other player in competition so i don't know if that means you're a ball hog there or that's a good thing. I'm not sure what that is. So either way, 2002, he's got 24 appearances and 10 tries, 40 points, but his team is 10 and 14. So that doesn't sound good. 2003, he's back with Manley, like we said here. And, yeah, I guess he breached his contract at one point here. He played a fifth-grade rugby union match.

That's got to be like a fifth tier, not a game against a bunch of fifth graders because that would be a crime at that point if you're fingering those kids. It's not impressive, sir. No. If you're fingering 11-year-olds, that's a crime, I think. Certainly. Certainly. So they found out about it, and he ended up was fined $5,000 by the team.

Either way, he appears in 15 matches in 2003, five tries, 20 points team goes six and nine. So he's not doing that great there. We'll say now 2004, maybe he's busy with the whole fingering thing being taken care of. Uh, finally.

So in the end, a judiciary panel had to differentiate the difference between a wedgie and a, quote, finger up the arse. And also they had to adjudicate the, quote, area between the arse and the nuts. Because that's what the taint is what we're talking about. They had to literally, because he said sometimes he was just poking people in between the arse and the nuts there. And also sometimes giving wedgies. So they had to figure out which one of these three buckets does this fall into? Is this wedgie? Sometimes he got the area between the nuts and the anus by going through the arse.

That's the thing. And he poked it from inside. But these judges had to sit down. These are professional people who went to college. They had to sit down and figure out which one of these different infractions were wedgies, which ones were poking the taint, and which one was these different infractions were wedgies which ones were poking the taint and which one was a niggle in the ass so which which one are we talking about yeah this is fucking ridiculous this is what they had to do uh one of the commissioners jim hall

described it as quote i've never come across a more disgusting allegation than i've had to deal with now it really is it really is bad um it's not great here so now asked by his counsel where he was directing his finger at bowman in one incident at a time here jean replied quote between his arse and his nuts so horrible to say out loud it's that's what he was doing now he said that he did nothing wrong this is again he said i'm a great believer in what happens on the field should stay there so they said well you're already in a court so really it's not how that works it has not not done that, so let's move on. Asked to describe what a wedgie felt like, the one guy said, quote, you get a burning sensation. Your undies are getting reefed up your arse. I love this continent.

But a wedgie is the underwear going in there by use of the underwear. It's not going up there By use of the underwear. It's not going up there. That's the thing. It's being pulled. So it's being pulled tight against your asshole. But there's no way for it to go inside your asshole when it's being pulled from the top. That's not how. The leverage goes up.

So it's like. The tailbone acts as a physics measured against it is really what it is. It's a real pulley sensation. It's a pulley. I was just going to say that's the crux of the whole thing and you got the yeah you're setting up a pulley situation so if you're setting up a pulley situation you can't expect penetration right i mean no if the pulley had a hole in the groove that would whatever material would not go into that hole now you're not being realistic now we're off now we're off in fantasy

land man come on so yeah um they they kept describing it as a the one in the seventh minute it's a picture of him with his finger up somebody's asshole and his counsel described it as a wedgie that's insane that's amazing how do you argue that yeah the guy said that that uh both acts caused dysfunction discomfort but they caused different sensations and the man who got him said he could differentiate between the two which i would think is like you jerk and a finger in the ass you son son of a bitch. Yeah, what the fuck is that? So Bowman said after tackling John in the 17th minute, he stood over him, over John, to do something else on the field,

and he said, quote, that's when I felt fingers outside my shorts pushing up my arse. Oh, boy. So there was pressure there. I know he wasn't doing it accidentally. He was definitely pushing. There was pressure there. I know he was doing it. I know he wasn't doing it accidentally. He was definitely pushing. There was pressure. It was a quote, I was disgusted. I couldn't believe it.

I know it's a tough game, but there's no room for that. That's a really tough game. Yes. I don't want to play the game where you can tackle people and you can fucking stick things up their ass against their will. That's a tough game, man. I don't know how to keep my focus on which defense. I don't know how to do that. Don't tackle me.

Oh, God, is anyone behind me? That's really scary. I don't want to do that. Holy shit. So this is fucking wild. They said that Bowman had been the one who's excessive that's what the defense attorney he was the one who was excessive trying to slow john from playing the ball by grabbing his leg but bowman said that if john was a man he wouldn't do that when pressed bowman

became angry and said if i held your leg would that give you the right to put your finger right up my arse? Angrily, he said that. This is happening. Someone sat behind a big desk with glasses on and paperwork and a tie, and then this got discussed in front of them. And this guy angrily screamed that at a lawyer, at a man who went to law school. This is fucking wild. If I grabbed your leg, can you digitally rape me? that would that be okay would you be all right with that i mean they're not calling it what it really it's fucking rape

you can't just say this you can't do it i get it's fun when you put an r when you put an r in ass but that doesn't make it not rape that r indicates something terrible yeah it does that the r stands for rape holy shit jesus christ that is fucking awful like a wedgie i mean when you feel a wet everybody's had a wedgie everybody's had it it's it's uncomfortable and you and you you resent the person doing it for a split second and then it's like it's funny for a minute but it's the other is legit panic it's all god yeah i'm this isn't good. I'm on a spit.

Basically, this is bad. I could be roasted at any time. It precipitates a terrible emotion. It's not great. Yeah. Wedgie, just as much. It hurts just as much on your ass crack as your asshole. You know what I mean?

It hurts the whole region. It's just as just as much even a taint. And you can even get the balls crushed in there. You betcha. If it hits it just right. But asshole is the least of your concerns. With a wedgie. With a finger, that's a concern.

That's something you really got to look out for here. You might get a burn or something on the wrinkle itself, but inside it, no. Not inside it. No. yeah i mean you get like a you know a like a friction burn probably from if you have like wool underwear on or something like that depending on how cold it is outside yeah that's what i mean it could be cold i got a wool oh boy i felt the burn on that one the ones i wear shit i feel like they would rip before they'd hurt anything yeah the tall the whole band would come off like boxer briefs that's the thing which is and i'm a man so they're all old anyway yeah they would fall right apart you'd just be left with rings or rings of fabric around your legs

that's all that would be on the tops of your legs what's going on standing there so this is this is a ridiculous argument um uh this okay here's another guy morrison he testified john was trying to pick my arse it's not a thing that i wanted to happen and it's not a pleasant thing well no fucking shit yeah um yeah greg woods said that he told the players to not be swayed by their feeling of revulsion or distaste for the whole thing. And they call he was called repeatedly an embarrassment, a disgrace, all that shit. Also, even in London, there was a headline, quote, the sickest thing in sport. Rugby League star accused of going up and under with fingers. And then they compared it to Mike Tyson biting Holyfield's ear and stuff like that. It's entirely different.

Yeah. I think it's worse, honestly. Yeah. At least at least your ears on the outside of your body. Anytime someone goes inside your body involuntarily that's really wrong you know biting an ear certainly is outside of the play of sport i call it outside the norm yeah but there's no sport that finger in the ass is even close to impossible nothing there's no point scored for that ever it's never a thing no matter what

it's closer to an eye gouge in football underneath the fucking underneath the pile you know what i mean that's yeah close to that closer to that but this is worse the paper said there was vinnie jones's infamous grab mike tyson got in on the act by biting a chunk out of Evander Holyfield's ear. But sport can rarely have such a bizarre has rarely have had such a bizarre charge as that leveled against a rugby league hard man. This is fucking amazing. Hard man. Jesus. Hard man.

Yeah. Let's they call a soccer guy who's tough. They called Vinnie Jones a hard man all the time. That was that was his big thing. So I think the episode was the hardness of Vinnie Jones, as a matter of fact, because of that. So anyway, he also, during the 2004 season, while this is going on, he becomes involved a little bit more when he gets in a heated argument with a touch judge in which he verbally abused the official and he was suspended again. Yes, he really went after somebody. Then he's caught verbally abusing a 14-year-old ball boy.

What? Oh, yeah. The ball boy placed the ball on the sideline of the field rather than throwing it in the infield to him. And he lost his fucking mind. um yeah he went crazy he apologized later on though he said quote he was not aware of the proper interpretation of the rule and he was in the wrong proper interpretation of the rule that you're not supposed to yell at children who are on the imagine a baseball player yelling at the bat boy you'd be like the fuck is wrong with you what are you crazy that's a child he's not supposed to be good at this you know what i'm

saying right you get paid eight million dollars a year he has to go to math class tomorrow like this is fuck out of here yelling at him i don't watch tennis but there's an amazing video of a tennis player who returns a ball and drills the ball girl like right in the fucking face and he runs over to apologize and like fix her cap for her and kisses her on the head and like really there's a an absolute like visual maya culpa that's what you should be doing if you like act interpret anything or or fire a ball at a kid anything that's in term thoroughly apologize to that kid otherwise they're gonna hate this sport yeah jesus one of the stars just yelled at me at least he didn't finger his asshole so that's good yeah at least he didn't bend him over um the ball boy here yeah he apologized to him and

they said that he called him on the phone to apologize after insulting him and um yeah that's that's what's pretty well it's too late at that point you've insulted him that's what's pretty funny. Well, it's too late at that point. You've insulted him. That's what they said. John has rung the boy to apologize for the incident and accepted that he was not aware of the proper interpretation of the rule. Oh, the kid wasn't aware of it. Oh, I don't know. Maybe because he's 14. Because he doesn't do this for a living. Yeah, he's 14 years old.

Anything you let a kid do, expect it to get fucked up and be thrilled if it gets done right you know what i mean if you would sign a chore to your son and it's done three quarters of the way right you're thrilled about that are you not otherwise you're just trying to keep him busy anyway so who gives a shit so yeah that's all it is 75 of the dog shit is cleaned up i'm pretty incredible that's a lot i give joey a chore i'm like holy shit look at that you did it i'm impressed as shit let's go buddy so uh anyway 2004 only 10 games because his suspension ends up kicking in then uh one try only four points not great not great 2005 his daughter is born another daughter uh pannyani, P-A-N-I, I don't know.

She, I guess, this is about her, that she tried to play netball, like is that volleyball? No, it's basketball with no backboard, it's just the hoop there. It's fucking crazy. So there's no back, well that's like 90 of the shots are aren't layup but the ball is in the middle or the the the hoop is in the middle of the court and there's a big circle around it oh for christ's sake it's crazy james that sounds like a game that you have fucking five-year-olds play like 800 of them at a time you know what it is one ball it's the it's the ball with the string in the cup minus the minus the string and a bunch of people are trying to keep you from getting it in. Well, that sounds terrible.

Jesus Christ, that doesn't sound fun at all. It seems fucking impossible. Is there violence involved in this sport? Can you tackle somebody? I would imagine probably eventually. What's their fingering policy? That's the other thing. Do we know that?

It's very popular for the girls in Australia. I do know that well maybe they have a maybe they have a liberal fingering policy then i'm not sure maybe it's you're allowed to do whatever the ultimate defense the ultimate the best defense is a good finger now i guess also that then she turned into a teenage rugby union star and she was really good at that and uh was on the manly mermaid rugby sevens team here and did all sorts of good shit and she's apparently a very good rugby player yeah so uh march 19th 2005 uh john attempts what they call a reckless shoulder charge

in a game yeah making contact with the head of forward Keith Galloway with his elbow. Holy shit. He drilled somebody with his fucking elbow. Yeah, on purpose, they're saying here. I guess it was a really nasty one. They said that he went at him with his elbow in a cocked position and jumped up to strike him in the head with it, which knocked him unconscious. This guy, leaving him on the field, bleeding from his ear and other places.

He had to get stitches. He left with a severe concussion, this Keith Galloway, a split ear requiring seven stitches after this. So this was really fucking nasty, like a near criminal attack, basically, here. His lawyer and a coach attempted to argue that he was doing nothing more than quote trying to go for a shoulder charge and that he raised his arm just in an attempt to

protect his ribs okay you know because when you protect your ribs you stick your elbow out as far as you can that's how i do it and high you get it up good and high because that protects your ribs yeah right leaves or leaves or ribs prone no shit um so he says later on quote i'm trying to go for a shoulder charge we call it a shooter you come out of the line and try to force an error and put a big hit that lifts the team and tries to disrupt the other teams go forward um i did i did not mean to go that high it was was a clumsy tackle. I just misjudged it. I was raising my arm to protect my ribs. And then he said that he apologized to Galloway for the incident, too. He said, I will now suffer the consequences.

But I know in my heart there was no intention of doing anything outside the rules. He said, during my career, I've always tried to play hard and tough, but fair. Yeah. No. That's not fair. Yeah. No. That's not fair at all. You can never, ever, ever, ever, ever say that. That is fucking crazy. So anyway, they said given the player's previous record,

the board of the club was given no alternative but to take action. So he ended up being suspended some more, obviously. He suspended 17 weeks here, which is the longest suspension ever. And the team terminates his contract because that's all he's done, basically. Yeah, he's done. Completely fucking done. This is in addition to the threats

to an official as well and all the things that he did. So he's banned for basically 12 months at this point because he did a local match and then threatened a junior official later in the year after he'd been suspended for 17 weeks by the league so he's suspended from any nrl anything for 12 months wow so he says he's retired now that's it he's just gonna retire

well he's got a reputation as a filthy ass player player. Absolutely. He pretends like he doesn't, though. He has a press conference to call his retirement, and he thanks his wife Brenda and his eight-at-the-time children. Jesus. He said, My one wish left in my football career was to do a lap of honor after my final game with my children. That can't happen now.

But not everything in life ends the way you want it. I bear no bitterness toward the club for terminating my contract. They had no choice to do what they did. The Manly Club were fantastic in supporting me. I want to make it clear that I don't want to go to England and play, and I don't want to play with any other club. My career is over, and I've come to terms with that. My life will now revolve around my beautiful wife, Brenda, and my eight children.

I promise I never tried to maim Keith Galloway, is also what he says. My life will now revolve around my beautiful wife, Brenda, and my eight children. I promise I never tried to maim Keith Galloway is also what he says. It was simply a shoulder charge gone wrong. In a split second, I messed it up, and I thank God that he isn't badly injured. People are predicting I'll play again. I won't. If I can't play with the club I love, then I won't play. He's acting like this is the brown stain on his career.

Yeah, that was a big thing. No one cares about that. You fingered people. Like eight people you fingered. That's crazy. That's a lot of fingering. He said, I have played for Manly and for NSW and Australia, and I'm proud of that.

Please don't feel sorry for me. I am now prepared for retirement with a clear mind and proud that I will always be welcome at the Manly Club. His teammates, one guy, former teammate, said he's a great player. I've played a lot of footy with him. It's just a shame these things happen. Another teammate said, obviously, it's bad for John. He has a family to look after, and now his career seems to be at an end. I guess I feel sorry for him, but the judiciary also had to act on what was presented to them.

He's obviously done the wrong thing and he's paid the price. It's a pretty harsh price to pay, but they were put in a situation where they had to act and have acted accordingly. I don't think he went out there and meant to do it, but it's obviously gone wrong and he has to pay the penalty and everyone has to move on the nrl chief executive david gallup said the shame will be that john's career will be remembered for something that he did other than his football yeah his fingers yeah big finger here and they're talking about the elbow that's unbelievable yeah it's bullshit because, yeah, the elbow's bad, but the finger, at least an elbow, seems to be in the realm of normal for a fucking rugby game at least.

It'd be like taking the legs out from under somebody in basketball. It's horrible. It's cheap. It's shitty. You could end a guy's career. There's no reason to do it, but it's also sort of in the game. At least nobody was like, I'll finger you while you're on the ground. That's not part of the game.

So 2006, he's got nothing to do. He can't play rugby. So he decides, I'll be a professional boxer. Fuck it. He's violent enough. Yeah. Why not? So that's what he said.

He's only used elbows and fingers so far, though. I haven't seen him throw any fists yet. But apparently he does, and he makes his boxing debut on May 17, 2006, against Frank Fasolo, whose nickname is, where the fuck is his name? Oh, no, he doesn't have a nickname. Never mind. This guy, he needs a nickname pretty goddamn bad here. He fights him, and first he tries to challenge a rugby player to a fight, too,

but they won't fight him here. Oh, Frank Fasolo actually is. He's the big ship. Frank the Big Ship Fasolo here. We just call him the Big Ship because that last name is a nightmare. That's a tough one. 1-2-0 is Frank, and John TKO's him in 47 seconds, so he's 1-0. So not bad.

John TKO's him in 47 seconds. So he's 1-0. So not bad. And like I said, he tries to get another rugby player to fight him, Mark Guyer, but the guy won't fight him. So there you go. So instead he fights a guy named Alex Mean, M-E-N-E, which still, your name is Mean. That's pretty goddamn cool. He calls himself Alex the Mean Machine.

Not bad. And then his last name is Mean though mean the mean machine mean yeah that's what he is that's too that's too much in too much eens and means and many m's and there's a lot of alliteration there he's two three and oh luckily uh john beats the nickname out of him i hope and uh 58 seconds a tko that's quick so two of them in under a minute he's two and oh um another guy his next fight is against a former rugby league player named anthony fowler and they had previously fought 15 years earlier in an under 17 representative match in rugby they fought on the field but uh apparently uh that's back then. And now they get to fight with gloves on. And this is at a basketball stadium in Bundamba.

I don't know how the fuck do you say that. Okay. So it's Anthony Chucky Fowler. And this is his debut. Like I said, he's a former rugby player. And maybe he should go back to rugby because John knocks him out in 34 seconds. Is John just that good? Well, these guys aren't good fighters either.

True. He's a good puncher. He's got power. And these guys suck. So if you add those two together, you're getting a lot of knockouts. Next up at the Magic Millions Complex in 2006, November 17th, he fights Oscar. Wow. Oscar Talamira.

His nickname is Oscar the Boxer. Oh, Oscar. Oscar. Come on, man. He's 2-6-0, this guy. And I'm happy that he's been beaten up six times for that dumb nickname. He's trying so hard to. That's not good.

But not even Oscar the. You could be Oscar the Boxer or Oscar the Boxer, but you can't be Oscar the Boxer. That doesn't make fucking sense even. What are you? That's your nickname. Have you ever been to Boston? Come on.

How much brain damage do you have? Yeah. Pick an accent here. What are you doing? He knocks him down a couple of times, and then finally the ref stops the fight at 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Okay. Yeah, not bad. Quick KO again.

Not bad at all. 4-0 for John. Next up, he's going to the rugby grounds in Townsville where he fights Hirimairima t-man tearing terangi yep team that's what we're going with t-man who's oh and eight oh no so that's terrible he should be retirement man is what he should be he should be fucking jesus christ that's not he's low t-man is what he is. This guy's not real aggressive here. He gets knocked out in 45 seconds, old T-man. Oh, no, he goes down. I'm sorry.

He lasts until the fourth round, gets knocked out 45 seconds in the fourth round. The fourth? Okay. But he goes down multiple times in the third and the fourth. He gets the shit beaten out of him, this guy. Next up at the Entertainment Center in sydney and uh in march of 2007 richard uh richard tutaki who goes by the tutaki express train hell yeah richard the tutaki express train tutaki who's 16 15 and one okay this guy's got a lot of experience. Yeah. But John wins by KO again.

Mm-hmm. So he does it. Not too fucking shabby here. Apparently, this guy was a heavy hitter, too, old Tataki. He also goes by Tootin' Tataki. That's another nickname he goes by. It was a lot of body blows that dropped him, I guess. So he dropped him with body blows.

Those are the fucking worst i uh watching that happen it i can see somebody get punched in the face a lot and and when they go down i go well yeah of course they go down but when somebody gets punched in the belly and they go down i i want to go down yeah you know they got hit hard they had all the air taken from them and you know it now after the fight the the IBF junior welterweight champion who watched the fight said that John was an embarrassment to the sport of boxing and he was disgusted with what he saw. That's fucking awesome. He said, quote, footballers like them think they can box turns what is a scientific and artistic sport into a circus. They're making fools out of themselves and artistic sport into a circus they're making

fools out of themselves and fools out of a sport i love i despise them and everything they stand for it's the same way i feel about actors that get into comedy yes yes if you're famous and then you're like i don't know i just want to go to hilarities in cleveland for the weekend fuck you they get from the entourage yeah off you prick stay you're going backwards right that's what you're doing you're going backwards people get into comedy to jump their way into acting to jump the audition pool that's why they got into comedy back in the day not the other way around dipshit you just think it's fun yeah you're having a great time it's you hanging hanging

on and still getting laid that's what you're trying to do you're trying to fuck people get out of here i'm gonna go back to the punk rock clubs no you're not shut up pearl jam and play your stadium play jeremy let's go this is christ there's some punk band who can't play that venue now because you think it's fun to play fucking alive there. Eat dicks. You don't get to be anti-establishment anymore. You are the establishment, you fuck. Yeah, you're crooning daughter in a fucking place with unfinished walls. What do you want from us?

So anyway, he's a disgrace basically um and he so he uh fights next up he fights brian fitzgerald who's one four and one uh-huh not good this is a goes the distance this fight which is like four rounds in this or six rounds but he loses a split decision john does is that right to a guy one win makes him six and one this is his one win one four and one this is not good guy had no wins i think he had no wins coming in here so uh that wasn't good um he said john said quote i'm being vilified again it obviously has something to do with my playing days. I know I'm going to be, uh, I know I'm going to be John Hope, Hope, Hope, Hope, Hope, uh, for the rest of my life, but I've tried to make a new road and I thought I was going along good until this.

They are racist because I'm from Tonga. It's not bloody right. I never get a fair go from Aussies. Well, also, I don't know. You're finger raping folks. That's the problem. Yeah. Everybody holds that. When everybody gives their middle finger to you, they're not saying, fuck you. They're just reminding you. They're telling you they're aware of your background. They've heard of you. They've heard of you.

Next up at the Arendelle Vikings Club, he fights Banging Ben Edwards, who sounds like a porn star. Banging Ben Edwards. In Arendelle? Jesus Christ. The Arendelle Vikings Club in Waniasa. That's where it is. Waniasa. Waniasa.

This is Edwards' debut. Old Banging Ben has never fought before. He knocks John down twice before the ref stops it with a TKO. Really? John loses this fight yeah well i mean if he's a fucking boxer who's been coming up through the amateur ranks and shit he's a boxer he knows how to fucking box this guy's a rugby player no offense but i mean it's not boxing is something kids do from the time they're seven right and to get those kind of skills you don't just pick it up when you're 35 and think you're gonna fucking do it you fought in a bar somewhere yeah because you fought on a field or you fought it's a different fight you know it's just different fight so um this i guess the guy who fought

him ben edwards was a former national kickboxing champion so he knows how to fight is what it is really well he's got some ass kick some ass punch some ass at least he hasn't fingered some ass so this was nine this is only 90 seconds into the first round too it was uh yeah which people were pissed off actually because they started throwing plastic beer cups at john oh my god down i wish that would stop yeah that's. Don't throw anything anywhere in a ring, on a field, on a stage. Don't be upset if a fight is quick. That's the coolest thing. They thought that they didn't get their money's worth, and he sucks, and that's why.

Well, it's like, well, you paid to see him, so that's your fault. You know what I mean? Yeah. So following this, the guy, the IBF champion that was talking shit about him he said that john needs to learn to fight properly and he also says hoppa should stop putting his finger up other guys anuses is the other thing he said which boxing is one sport where it would be impossible to stick your finger up somebody's ass well it's taped in a glove. If you can pull that off, unless you can get the thumb up there, which would be a magic trick. That's a big thing.

Yeah, you'd belong on the most hated man on the Internet documentary there. Butthole girl ain't got nothing on you. Giving butthole girl a run for her money. So 5-8-17 here. So May 18th, 2007, not 17. At the Seagulls Rugby League Lounge, he fights Terry Tuteru

who's 0-8-1. So they're like, maybe he can beat him. He does. John actually goes down in round one. But then he wins by TKO after that. So he's not a good boxer.

Can we just say that? It's not great. He's 7-2. Next up at the Entertainment Center in Sydney, this is December 2007, Brian Fitzgerald he fights, who's 2-5-1, beats him by TKO.

He's 8-2. Next up he fights Cio Vitale, who's 0-3. TKO's him. He's 9-2. Building his record up. Next up, at the Gold Coast Convention Center on September 10, 2008,

he fights Bob the Big Bear Mirovich, who's 29-19-2. This is a big deal. I guess this is for the Australian Heavyweight Championship. So the whole continent here. And if you win this, you have to fight a kangaroo.

You certainly should. You have to fight the most badass kangaroo in all of New South Wales or whatever the fuck it is. There you go. He beats him by TKO. So he wins the Australian. He's the Australian Heavyweight Champion, Jimmy. After all this and head butthole finger, he's 10-2. He wins the Australian. He's the Australian heavyweight champion, Jimmy. Unbelievable. After all this and head butthole finger, he's 10 and 2.

He's doing great. I guess he really cornered him, they said, and I guess he hit him with six clean punches and knocked him to the floor. Guy started to get up, but his trainer threw in the towel. The other guy's trainer there, the the big bear got it thrown in there uh after the fight though the big bear claimed that john used illegal tactics during the bout which resulted in mirovich having a broken arm oh uh he said mirovich said he was illegally shoved to the ground in the sixth round which left him with a broken arm and no hope of carrying on he said i couldn't throw a punch for the final three rounds because of what hoppa did i'd cop it on the chin if i lost the fight fair and square but there's no way i'll sit back if something illegal was done to me it was a dog

act by hoppa i can't do anything now for three months and i'm demanding hoppa doesn't fight anybody until he gives me a rematch hoppa's a cheap son of a bitch everywhere he goes. He is. He keeps getting accused of it. Next up, he fights Cliff the Black Bull Couser, who is 26-19-2. And this fight goes three whole rounds, and Couser does not come out for the fourth round, so John wins the fight. Couser's a coward. Or a hurt, either one um one of

the two 11 and 2 is now he's uh up to here may 22nd 2009 at the orleans casino and hotel in las vegas nevada at the orleans at the orleans he fights god and we know this guy well oliver the atomic bull mccall remember we brought this fight well. Oliver the Atomic Bull McCall. Remember, we brought this fight up in the Oliver McCall thing, and we couldn't pronounce his name then either. 51-9, Oliver McCall is. You can go back and listen to his episode. What a weird guy in just a crazy episode.

This is for the vacant IBA Continental Heavyweight title. John gets knocked down twice in the second round and loses by TKO. McCall's a good fighter. He's not beating fucking McCall. He's a real legitimate heavyweight contending heavyweight. You're not going to beat him. So he's 11-3. I give him credit for having the balls to fight McCall, to be honest with you.

So second round that happened. Next up, he fights the Big Bear again. He's back. The Big Bear is back. And this one, he wins again, this time by unanimous decision, though, John wins. It's over. There's no trilogy.

He's beating you handily. That's it. Yeah, I guess Mirovich had a point deducted for holding during the fight. Either way, 12 and three for him now. So next up at the mystery creek event center that's where all the dreams come true jimmy yeah in uh in october 2009 he fights colin kid coal miner wilson kid coal miner kid call he's a child coal miner yeah he's a colin child labor laws go to hell wilson child labor law inspiration wilson colin soot face wilson colin the black lung yeah colin black lung wilson

colin the canary wilson that was there it is that's what they should have called oh man he's 34 25 and one coming in it's a lot of uh a lot of uh experience yeah this is for the title australian heavyweight title because mccall didn't take that he's like what is this fuck is australia i don't even know what that is he gave it back to keep this you can go and keep this man it's cool um this fight here he loses this fight by knockout so he gets knocked out 12 and 4 here uh this was on the undercard of the david tua shane cameron fight remember david tua yeah david tua was fun to watch he's a great fucking fighter um so apparently he started well john and got a knockdown in the third round, but old the kid coal miner came back from the knockdown and ended up knocking John out in the fourth

round. Next up, he fights. Okay. This is March of 2010. Shane, the mountain warrior, Cameron. No mountain. Are there mountains in Australia? Hmm.

I don't know. There's got to be a hill around there somewhere, right? I'm sure there's somewhere that it snows there, right? It's got to. It beats me. I mean, not a lot of skiers over there, probably. You would think it would be in the south of Australia, right? Where the mountains would be, because up near the top, they're so near to the equator. Yeah, but south is even, yeah, I guess they're not that south. Isn't that far south, though? It's a small continent. It're not that south isn't that far south though it's a small continent it's not like oh that's close to the south pole down there i don't know uh either way he loses john does by dq 23 and 2 this guy was so he's a real fighter good john lose loses

by dq for quote holding wrestling and ignoring warnings in both rounds he just gave up holding wrestling what the fuck so that's ridiculous november 2010 the nrl has him talk to some nrl players okay you know come in and tell them you know what not to do things like that that's the only reason to talk to him right i would say hey i fucked up you don't fuck up the article says up and coming rugby league players gathered to hear the words of wisdom from legends of two of australia's major football codes the aspiring players were from under 20s teams of major clubs don't send this guy to jesus christ um they sent uh sid going along with john and uh they shared advice from years of representative football the players met here um they viewed news clippings all this shit then john urged the young men to

keep their to give a total commitment to the game but keep their personal standards high yeah he that's hilarious um maintainaintain morality, boys. No shit. Jesus Christ. Apparently, this is like a Mormon thing. Along with Going and John, all of these kids are Mormon rugby players. Oh. Yeah.

So they really want to get into that whole deal here. So it's like a keep everything high, go on your missions. It's all that kind of shit they said that they shouldn't be affected by the hard-living lifestyle of many players and um they said that in the long run the church believes that a clean lifestyle amongst players will make the game significantly better than it presently is that's what i want to see a bunch of fucking mormons running running around playing a violent game. No. Give me guys that just got out of prison. Yeah.

That's what I want. Just got out of prison. Yeah. Just got out of prison. Smoking cigarettes, giant lines of coke off their helmets and football, then get on in there. Let's see what you got. That's what I want to see. I don't give a fuck.

So make it entertaining they said um uh he told the players to the most important step right now is for you to surround yourself with good friends who will not influence you away from your standards and family values have no fear keep your faith be strong be smart and know that kids everywhere are watching your every move there you go uh he also told of the time when he made some serious errors in his career. I would say so. And he said, we should all learn from the lessons of others, and hopefully you will learn from my mistakes as well as the good things I did for the game. Well, yeah, Jesus Christ.

So he's telling them, hey, straight and narrow. Yes. Now, a couple months later, in December of 2010, December 19th, as a matter of fact, he's in the christmas spirit jimmy let's just say that he's giving he's giving uh he's giving an ass kicking is what he's giving he's a apparently works at a nightclub and we'll talk about that as well the trademark hotel which is a kind of an infamous joint here he he's lit yeah he's I guess he's listed officially in the employment as like a guy who he's like a bartender. But mainly he's there to, like, kick people's asses, I guess.

Like enforcer keeps keep shit on the. But he's not around here. The only bouncer. It's very strange here, but he's charged with serious assault while he's doing this here. Yeah. Apparently it occurred about 11 p.m on a saturday night three men tried to enter the trademark hotel and were refused entry by security because they were already drunk yeah so apparently one of the trio allegedly made threats toward the security guards which made the guards and bouncers chase after them down the street which if you're a bouncer you don't i've done this job if they're

walking away you don't give a fuck what they say or do yeah the point is you're not here fuck you i don't care what you can say anything you want walking tell your story walking exactly tell your story walking i don't give a fuck go once you're gone you're gone you don't chase after people that's just you're an asshole at that you've got a castle doctrine yeah this is the king of this castle get the fuck away from my castle that has nothing to do with your job anymore now you're just an asshole fighting in the street you know what i mean so you're keeping the peace inside this squared off area that's it that's it in here i'm i you know my my word means something on the sidewalk it doesn't so then it's just a fight between two idiots so apparently they chased after them through the streets and there was a big

subsequent brawl in the streets with the bouncers and these three drunk guys a 33 year old man suffered head injuries and was rushed to St. Vincent's Hospital where he underwent surgery and remained in serious condition one of them said unfortunately he has to undergo brain surgery as a result of an assault up at king's cross that's he was stomped oh he was oh it gets worse too the third another bouncer ends up being arrested and charged with assault occasionally occasional occasioning actual bodily harm and a fray uh resulting to the assault of a 27 year old man. Keep posted on that. We'll get it.

Well, that's at first. We'll find out what happens there because that man slips into a coma, as we'll talk about. So one of the bouncers is responsible for that. John is one of the is believed to be the security guard who's been charged with assault on somebody else, which he is. A number of the other nightclub staff have also been assisting with the investigation. Further charges are expected in this whole thing.

They haven't anyone with information. Please call the Crime Stoppers line. It's bad. John's charged with assault, occasionally occasioning actual bodily harm and a fray following this whole thing. He was employed as a responsible service of alcohol marshal not for security i don't know what that means like he's supposed to make sure nobody gets too drunk i don't know if that's just a bartender and that's like a you know it's like an official

designation or if that's like some if there's somebody in a bar who's responsible like keep an eye on the bartenders like the line judge or something you know what i mean perhaps america could adopt that because you can be sued for uh over serving somebody so perhaps it's the guy that keeps an eye on that well it would help if the person who it sucks because the person who is supposed to tell you not to drink anymore is also the person who makes the living off you buying that drink and tipping them so that's a very difficult thing to ask people to do so it's to have somebody who whose living doesn't depend on the tip saying stepping in might be better i'm not saying bartenders are bad because i know a million bartenders and they're good people and they're trying to make a fucking living and they're not you can't to keep track of

100 people's levels of intoxication is a crazy task to ask somebody to fucking do it's crazy it's also personal levels right it's also shitty to uh employ that person to also babysit i'm i'm i'm not here to tell you what you can and can't drink you're a fucking adult figure it out for yourself yeah that's for managers and bouncers to cut you off because you're acting a fucking fool and some people can be shit face point fucking two five and you can barely notice it because they're alcoholics is the other thing. So then what do you do in that case? It's hard. So anyway, he's charged with all that during the brawl. The there's a couple of the Castillo brothers are there.

One is 33. He slipped into a coma. The 33 year old and never regained consciousness he died oh my god they beat a man to death they stomped him to death yeah he went into a coma and died holy shit a 35 year old security guard lynn mattia was charged with manslaughter because of it so john's lucky his guy didn't die he's lucky now this bar lucky. Now, this bar. Talk about this bar. It's owned by a guy named John Ibrahim, who is a nightclub owner, and police allege him to be a, quote, major organized crime figure. He was labeled as the lifeblood of the drugs industry of King's Cross.

Oh, boy. That's what they said during a 1995 wood royal commission uh he's furious he strongly denies it ibrahim he says absolutely not ibrahim he says absolutely not he's been not been convicted of any of that shit and that's ridiculous um but this was also the place where todd carney our old friend, the piss guzzler there. He and Anthony Watts ordered an inquiry into whether the trademark hotel, which was this hotel, breached laws on the responsible service of alcohol because they got in trouble for being shit faced after leaving here. So this has been this place is kind of a famous place for crazy shit happening. I guess this inquiry here followed the whole John situation here with the guy dying and everything like that.

So it was reported that between July 2009 and January 2011, 529 assaults occurred either at the trademark with security staff involvement or near the venue, like right around the front door, like where fights happen. That were documented. So there are way more. 529 assaults in less than two years. Think about that. And we aren't parsing between types of assaults. This is just all around assaults. Yeah. This could be. Oh, assaults. This is just all around assaults. This is assaults.

Yeah. This could be. Oh, my God. This is fucking crazy. Like, I worked at a bar for two years. There's, you know, once a week there'd be some physicality or whatever. A real brawl, maybe, you know, once every few months. Yeah. This wasn't 529 in a year and a half.

That's insane. That's fucking crazy, man. So, yeah. And a lot of them, like we said, had security staff involvement. So what ended up happening is the trademark was subject to a reduction in trading hours. So they had to close earlier, basically. Yeah, because they were a menace and a nuisance.

Absolutely, they had to sanction a bar here. And they increased security by scanning with metal detectors so i don't know good that did if it did do any good maybe so in court in april john pleaded guilty to assaulting the man outside the nightclub because he had no choice here uh his lawyer told the court that he was provoked and hit on the head with a belt buckle. Okay. So you should be lenient. He said the victim produced a paint scraper and showed it to security instead of being,

when he was asked to leave and he didn't leave, he just pulled out a paint scraper like I'm not going nowhere. I'll cut you with a paint scraper. Who runs a, what? A paint scraper.

That's a bizarre weapon to carry. It's a very, they're like, it's pointy, fuck it. I mean, I's pointy. Fuck it. I mean, I'm going to scrape you good. So I guess they then said the victim picked up a table, lifted it over his head, and dropped it on the floor. So he started tearing up the joint.

They said that he did that. Then they said there was no physical contact contact and john then acted in self-defense after that then after john acted in self-defense the man ran away then john chased after him yeah you can't do that which is yeah you can't do that either then he said that he um uh he said he let the the lawyer even admitted that he overstepped the mark when John punched and kicked the victim while he was restrained on the ground. They were holding him and he was just kicking him. This is fucking crazy. He suffered facial injuries.

His brother died. So they witnesses did say and the magistrate accepted that Mr. Castillo unbuckled his belt and hit John with it. But she said John stepped over the line when she was punching and kicking him when he was on the ground. So that's worse. She said that with his physical size, much bigger than the guy he beat up, and experience of playing rugby and boxing, he should be able to exercise self-control. Do you know who he is?

No. John said, I did exercise self-control. Ask him how his asshole feels fine is he bleeding from i really back i really wanted to jam something up there you know what i mean a lot of beer bottles around and stuff trust me i a lot of self-restraint really though if you ever get into an altercation after being in a bar that you walked through a metal detector to buy a Corona, it's 50% on you, right? Yeah, absolutely. You know what I mean?

In there. But if you run away and the bouncers beat the shit out of you, that's certainly on them. Yeah, but you should know, hey, this place might be dangerous. They're wanding everyone. Yeah, that's rough. This is kind of shitty. So anyway, this all happens here.

They asked for leniency for the assault and malicious damage charges, but they said the common assault and affray were dropped. And he ended up also he's volunteering with troubled children right now. So they're trying to say that. So they give him what is the final uh thing here a you sir may fuck off a 12 month good behavior bond and he's fined a thousand dollars okay and 79 in court costs as well okay from there he has some problems with a parking officer parking tickets too well a cop was trying to give him a ticket a parking officer trying to give him a ticket and he said touch my car and you'll touch my car and you'll fucking cop it oh i don't know what that means uh yeah i guess so an ass kicking i suppose um so they said that

he was abusing this guy anthony uh bugie was his name as he wrote a ticket for John's BMW. He told, the officer told him to step back. John said, go ahead. Oh, wow. Sorry, this ain't my words. Go ahead, you little faggot. Touch my car and you'll fucking cop it. Wow.

That's what he said to someone with a badge on um then uh he said the cop said well i'm i'm giving you the ticket and john said you're big behind your uniform take it off and if you ever come back here i'll fucking kill you take yeah you're not allowed to do that that is is some, that's really getting after it. That's getting after it. And then they have closed footage TV. You know, they have fucking video security cameras, surveillance footage of while he's saying this, he is quote, drawing his fingers across his neck in a throat cutting gesture. So he's like, the cops like, that's when he said he was going to kill me during that part when he did that that's what they're like well yeah um he said he felt intimidated due to

john's size and level of aggression but during an interview john told the officers that while he abused the parking ranger he did not believe that the guy was intimidated by him okay interesting he said in fact the officer blew him a kiss and stuck his finger up at him as he drove off that's pretty impressive i love it once he was in the car with his foot on the gas yeah then yeah he wasn't intimidated anymore because he can he can drive faster and you can run outside the car he wasn't doing anymore because he can he can drive faster and you can run outside the car he wasn't doing any of that was he and the finger like i said he was just showing you respect that's in america you got to watch your mouth with shit like that because if you do do anything after saying those words and that gesture that's now a hate crime oh fuck a hate crime it's not even that

that's assault if you do it too you can't threaten a police officer with murder crime on a police officer. It's not good. The gay slurs. You can get yourself in trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if he would actually have to be gay for that to be a hate.

I don't think so. You just have to say it and believe it, I guess. Oh, OK. Well, maybe. Yeah. I don't know the law exactly on that one. So we haven't really covered that much on small town murder. I got to assume that if you call somebody that and that's like you're,

and they blew a kiss at you, I don't know. Got implies, right? I wonder if he blew the kiss first. Would it make a difference? We're really getting deep. I'm not sure.

So this, by the way, was, this happened at 3am also, which is fun. They also stated that they brought up multiple times who he worked for the guy who's the alleged you know drug king of the area here so he had to plead guilty to intimidating the ranger is what he did here um they asked for you know mercy they said he's a good religious family man

who happens to threaten policemen's lives at three o'clock in the morning on the street that's a very religious family man there that's what they that's what they're known for they uh the judge said he hasn't exhibited that on this day has he and the lawyer said that he he admits to calling the ranger a quote wannabe cop and swearing at him he said that did happen she said he had only parked illegally because quote parking is at a prim a premium around the clubs around there where he works as a security guard to support his 10 children. He said, and you've got a parking officer who stuck his fingers up and blew a kiss. I mean, of course he's going to get angry. The judge said that the parking ranger had just been doing his job.

He said, quote, here's a man who was going about what he was required to do and he's threatened because he had inconvenienced someone you sir may fuck off he is fined four hundred dollars okay well that's an extra that's a steep parking offense too that's a good ticket yeah it's a steep ticket here. So next up in 2014, he's the subject of a junior manly rugby league investigation after allegedly abusing the referee at an under 10s match. What? He got in trouble for fucking abusing a referee at a children's rugby game of under 10 years old children unreal what in the shit is going on so this game does not matter to anything holy yeah none of this matters most of these kids won't even like rugby in a few years yeah

so wow they said he's a the club tried to say because he's he's doing Manley's under-10 team, and the head of the team there said he has a lot to offer as coach. Not a lot of people probably know the real John. He's a very generous person. He's a very honest person, and I know he does a terrific job with those kids. Wow. Later on that year, he's caught on camera yelling at a female journalist while he was at court supporting Jamil because Jamil was going through his time. Yeah, his assault charges. He was in court trying to, you know, get his son's back.

And this female reporter was there. And he, on camera and in front of dozens of people, he screamed at her and called her a fucking bitch so just covering the fucking case sir what he is is a very he's a very strong very pious religious man is what it is it's really that's what god would do i think what would jesus do he'd call her a fucking bitch first of all that's what he would do right there. So, I mean, this guy, he doesn't know what to do with himself now. He's like, what are you going to do? He hasn't boxed in a while because he sucked at it. He was fucking like 10 and 7 or 12 and 7 or something. That's not going well.

12 and 5. That's not going well. He tries to coach children. He's like, I can coach children. Nope, can't do that. You abuse referees. He does nothing. So he's like, I can coach children. Nope, can't do that. You abuse referees. He does nothing. So he's like, I don't even know what to do with myself anymore.

I'm not leaving the house. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to fucking stay home and these people can all eat shit. You know what I'm saying? I'll start up like a nice from home aromatherapy business or something. Or I'll send you out bullshit and it'll smell like my balls and you guys will pay for it and everyone will like it. It's all I'm doing. I'm done with this shit.

And you know what, too? I'm sick of these curtains. And I'm also I'm just sick. The colors in here, they're just not speaking to me. I'm going to fix this. And he calls in a man for the job. Yeah. And he shows up and there's a knock at the door and it's dexter manley interior designer from new york city

and he says how is it you've come to arrive here oh my god you sir you sir i'm sorry to say it i i don't know you're tongan and you're you know you're you white trash. That's what you are. I'm sorry. This has nothing to do with who you are inside. On the outside, it's all white trash. Everything you're doing is trashy. That's what you're doing. You fingered people's buttholes against their will. It's fine if that's what you're into and the other person's into it and it's consensual.

Great. This, sir, no. That's trash. I'm sorry. You nearly stomped a man to death on the street. Like, total trash. I mean, good God. It's pretty trashy, baby.

You're threatening little tiny people. Little tiny run around people. Do you understand the raging boner Vince McMahon has for you out in the van right now? I had to tell him he can't because you're involved in sexual things and he fingers buttholes and it just doesn't look good if you're together. Like if someone sees a picture, it's over for both of you. You know what I

mean? So anyway, you're trash. You're disgusting. Screaming derogatory gay slurs. You're... Yeah. No. I'm sorry. No. You are gross and um trash i don't like your house either and i'm not gonna fix it so just fuck you dude um you're trash okay bye and poof in a in a cloud of feathers and boas he's gone and john is very confused he's punching the air he doesn't know what's going on. He tried to finger nothing. Come here. Come here.

Where did you go? He missed it. He's got a handful of feather boa. Damn it. Just one feather in his hand. Son of a bitch. He's so angry. So 2016, can he coach again maybe?

Oh, my God. He started just coaching Manley's SG ball cup cup side what the fuck is that what you can't have that man involved in anything called ball cup ball cup no you can't have him involved in that and and then the nrl claimed that he was not fit and proper character to mentor young and impressionable men yeah threatening the team with a breach notice if they didn't get rid of john from coaching um i guess it had been okayed by the nsw rl which is the elite under 18s governing body but the the one above that said no the the wow that's wild so he ends up um he had to earn a coaching certificate

which would he have to do which required a working with children check i guess to make sure that you don't finger their buttholes background check yeah like a background check and they said the nrl's been in talks with manly about the matter for some time and those talks are going on but they're not clearing him to coach and the nrl said he's not a registered he's not registered to coach he's taken this uh and john has taken the matter to the supreme court the nrl is contesting his case and has not changed its stance at all now he wrote on social media john did i'm back nrl asked me if we can withdraw the court proceedings because they don't have jurisdiction over SG Ball. So I can coach this week.

Cheat. Cheeho. OK. Following up with the hashtag. No hard feelings. Time to move on. And let's be. Let's let the past be the past.

Jesus. And they said, no, we didn't fucking clear him for shit. The NRL tweeted. The NRL has not, in capital letters, cleared John to coach Manley's SG ball side. So, yeah, they threatened to find Manley one million dollars and John one hundred thousand dollars if he continued to coach. Wow. That's steep. Yeah, that is silly.

So while all of this is going on, he's trying to say what good moral character he has and he should be allowed to be around children and guide their young lives. He's arrested and charged with common assault after beating the shit out of a supermarket employee. Oh, my. Why is he so mad? He's so fucking mad, dude. He's so. And then does he beat people up? And he's like, let me tell you a little bit about Jesus Christ.

What do you think about that? Ever wanted your own planet? Because I can give it to you. Why is he so angry? So fucking mad. He was arrested, charged with that common assault after an incident involving an employee of the Crow's Nest supermarket. Holy shit. They allege that he was in the supermarket about 10 a.m 10 a.m in the

morning you don't fight in a supermarket at 10 a.m that's you have problems man people are not ready to avocado toast at this time oh i'm not ready to fight anything at 10 a.m nothing i don't care what happens at 10 a.m he became verbally involved in a verbal argument with a 40 year old staff member fucking whatever employee there and the argument allegedly turned physical and other supermarket staff members had to intervene john then left the supermarket um yeah that's fucking wild here uh they said about um they ended up going in and the guy ended up pressing charges and they so they charged him with that shit so his version in court was quote we shook hands and made up and he gave me a box of apples and some bananas to take home to the kids and the next thing you know i was being

charged for with assault do you think that's probably what happened do you think they made up and hugged and everything's fine my bad this man had to take some bananas apples gifted him some fruit and then decided to press charges against him do you think that's probably now does that sound logical to you sound good no it doesn't sound like an accurate portrayal of the moment no not at all um he threw apparently threw punches at this guy, too. Jesus. Not like he just shoved him up against the Lucky Charms. Like, he fucking knocked all the rice-a-roni down.

He punched him. Sincerely, how crazy angry he is is mind-boggling. It's wild. He told the court that he was definitely sorry for what happened. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Earlier in the day, the judge asked him if he was sorry he said definitely sorry for what happened outside the outside the court 10 minutes before that a reporter asked him if he was sorry for what happened and he said are you sorry for asking dumb questions so he treats certain people

differently than other people um i guess he told he told the um he told the people here that he had a 75% share in a deli operating within a super fresh supermarket in Crow's Nest, which was where he was here. I guess, so think about this. He's got a 75% stake in the sub shop that's inside this supermarket. That's what the argument was about not i where'd you put the fucking you know where'd you where do you keep the tomato juice it wasn't that so he said the earnings had dropped about ten thousand dollars from around twenty seven thousand dollars a week since the end of last year so he approached the worker albert damasi who was sitting on a milk crate and packing shelves and continued to ask to speak to the

market's owner camello so basically he went in to get his cut and thought that the fucking envelope was light so he was going to talk to the guy yeah to say hey where's the fucking rest of my end this is like a not this is um you know similar to what mobsters do this we've seen tony soprano send chris out to collect money like this so yeah that's what he said he said let me talk to camello so john tried to i guess this guy tried to walk away from him like he didn't want to be involved john tried to stop him from walk away and said, quote, I was talking to you, cunt. Hell yeah, I love Australia. I know. The worker then headbutted John.

Oh, that's ballsy. Because John grabbed him and wouldn't let him get away. So the worker headbutted him. So John then, quote, threw two swinging punches at him, which he missed because he's a shitty boxer, as we know. He can't even hit the supermarket guy who's packing fucking stocking shelves here. So something tells me at the end of that, it's not going to end with a handshake and a handing over a fruit. You know what I'm saying? And a gifting of fruit.

So his lawyer said that the deli was his only source of income, and they asked for extreme leniency from the court in fining her client, saying that he has to feed school and buy cars and iPads for 10 children. That's literally what they said in court. Michael Scott? Yeah, he's the sole provider for a family of 10. They pay a rent of $900 a week. They don't own any property. And as you have heard today, his sole source of income is declining because of circumstances. So they said that he, the magistrate on the other side, said that he appeared to be making significant money from the deli business. And he said, I'm sure a lot of people would like to earn just a small amount of what John has coming into the house.

Truly, yeah. Yeah. And they said that given, they said, you know, this guy's a train boxer. He's got a criminal record of assaulting people all the time. Even on the field, he's stalking people and hurting people, intimidating people, fining, all this crazy shit. people intimidating people fining all this crazy shit they said so uh they said the assault was definitely on the lower end of the scale because he didn't make contact with the guy or anything like that but um he definitely needs to get something so they sentence him to you sir may fuck off an 18 month good behavior bond probation whatever, whatever the shit that, I guess that's probation and a $1,500 fine outside the court inside the court.

He was real contrite too. I'm sorry. I, you know, clean up my act outside the report. He said outside the court to the reporters, he said, quote,

there's murderers and there's other cases they should be focusing on. So fucking liar. I'm just a small menace. I'm just a small menace i'm just a tiny menace yeah just if you're fucking with me personally so at that point the manly majority owner uh finally said they had they went back and forth with the league about the coaching thing and all this sort of shit and uh they said that they were advised that um the one guy with the league said that i just advised manly that i thought there was an open that there was open source material in relation to the selection of john as coach i pointed out that the commission of commissioner of police

has excluded john from the casino in july and that's a decision not taken lightly that's in casino do you remember when guys were banned from the casino and you're on the list? You had to be a real bad fucking guy to get on that list. You had to be like a gangster to get on that list, not just a fuck up. You fucking earn it. He got banned from casino. So that tells you something. The holdings we have to make the decision are confidential.

There's open sourced information about his links to organized crime figures, and I thought Manley needed to take that into account. I just advised the NRL that they needed to have a look at the open-sourced material available for John regarding his position. Our squad is there to protect the integrity of casino operations. The same squad can't sit by and not give advice to the NRL when the same person is appointed to a coaching role so that's someone from the organized crime squad from the police went to the league and went this guy's involved in shit keep him out of this yeah can't tell you what everything we know but we had to kick him out of a casino to ban him does that tell you something trust us bad guy so john says fucking prove it prove him a bad guy prove I'm in organized crime

if you're going to talk shit we're working on it give us some time he said that he challenged the NRL bosses and police to come up with any solid evidence that he's linked to organized crime the Sydney Daily Telegraph

produced a copy of a letter it reported was sent to the NRL integrity unit about the whole thing, and he was mad about it and all this shit. He said, quote, with the NRL and the NSW police, please produce some hard evidence. Make it public. Don't hide behind some allegation that I'm involved in organized crime. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I urge young people to stay away from drugs, and I don't gamble. God encourages me to talk to men

about taking the right path in life, but the NRL claims I'm unfit to do the job. I've been coaching kids since my son Will was four. That's 21 years. Suddenly the integrity unit claim I can't do anymore, I can't do anymore, even though they haven't bothered to interview one parent of the hundreds and hundreds of kids I've coached. I have 10 kids of my own to look after with my darling wife, Brenda.

And they were like, yeah, you can't fucking do that. So he finally decides to just give up and step down. Yeah, he says, I'm not looking to let the club be forced to pay fines or lose points because of me. And he says, fuck it. He says, so what if I know guys that have been in jail? One of my best mates is in jail now. Craig Field. My son was in jail.

I've got a few cousins in jail. I've got family in jail. Just because I know people that are in jail doesn't mean I've got links. If I was a criminal, please bring it out. Charge me. So, yeah, he said, don't cry for me argentina i'm fine don't cry for me uh western sydney i'm fine everything's good you don't need to feel bad for me who you should feel bad for who i feel bad for yeah is john i don't know hope poet

however the fuck you want to say it same way who's a doctor at the warringa mall in greater sydney so he's even in sydney and he's a doctor you're gonna fucking trust that guy yeah but then again he might not be a doctor because it's his previous work experience or education it says priority dancing so it sounds to me like what is he a doctor like a male stripper who wears a doctor costume with the one glove on his hand especially really does he work at data doctors and he just fixes computers all day oh man so 2017 he joins the tongan camp for the 2017 rugby league world cup so um yeah they said that uh you've got to be a man and to own up to what you want to do if you're man enough you'd make

the phone call and tell them i guess because they're saying that people said he shouldn't have been on the team and he was like well you should fucking tell me and say it to my face and all this shit so john responded who the hell hell is Adam Blair to come and say that? They don't know anything when we name him in our team, and that's what we're meant to turn up for camp. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. I'll bash Adam Blair. I don't care, is what he says. So, okay.

Wants to bash him. July 2018, he bashed somebody. somebody he is charged by the nsw rl for punching opposition players while playing for the narowina hawks against forestville in a local a-grade match it was alleged that he also threatened players of the forestville ferrets team as well the ferrets oh ferrets ferrets yeah ferrets forestville ferrets the foxsports.com au broke the news on tuesday published this whole thing which occurred a fight occurred broke out uh he's he's been charged with medium range striking which carries an automatic four game suspension just say punching yeah that's a it's called a punch medium range he's also been charged with three other offenses from the same game relating to code of conduct. So hasn't changed a fucking drop.

Also, he repeatedly threatened to, quote, bash you cunts before being sent off by the referee. Fantastic. He said to one guy, a Forestville coach alleged that John approached the ferrets bench after the sendoff and said, quote, I'm going to take you behind the sheds and fucking flog you. Oh, we're going to go behind the woodshed. I guess so. He fired off insults, swearing, and threatening to fight players if he got sent off. He can be heard in the footage calling one player a fucking smart-mouthed cunt before saying, I'll fucking bash you, cunt.

And then he says, if I get sent off, I'm going to fucking bash you cunt and then he says if i get sent off i'm gonna fucking bash you so yeah uh he can also be heard telling uh telling them to uh telling referees to shut up and then also repeatedly bashing threatening to bash players as well he's 44 years old at this point in time bro you gotta grow up a little bit this is fucking crazy he says he acted like an idiot you know obviously but he didn't make any threats on the field he said it's the heat of the moment it's footy it happens on the field and that's it i carried on like an idiot and got sent off and that's it i carried on like an idiot who cares it's the story of my life i'd said i'd bash him on the field but what's wrong with that it's part of the game oh come on so uh in court uh though over this it's claimed that he threatened

to smash an opposition trainer told a forestville official to fuck off and said to an opposing player while standing behind the bench you're dead i'm going to smash you you dog um they said uh then they said do you have anything to say why did you do this and before he said he didn't really do it he just acted silly now he's got a reason for doing it he said quote no one gets angry for no reason i was called a fucking black monkey and i didn't like it so i threatened to bash him and i'd do it again yeah that's what he said he said uh when asked why he didn't report the racial slurs you know any time up till right now he said the uh the reason was because quote he wasn't a bitch so you know well he's fun he's uh he said i too was

angry uh i was too angry to say it because all i wanted to do was slap the guy who was being a smart a smart arse it's unacceptable behavior but are we going to let these people get away with racism i'd do the same thing here if someone called me a fucking black monkey and then he apologized for carrying on like a friggin mug and they, sir, may fuck off. He's banned from all involvement in NSWRL Rugby League for 10 years. It's over for him. Grow up. But then the ban also, it's five years of it they suspend, they say. So he's five-year hard ban and then five years suspended.

So if he fucks up during that five years they can add yeah they can tack that on there may 18th he has his 11 or may 2018 he has his 11th child that's aunt baby holy fuck aunt baby 2018 he's playing for manly in the legends of league charity event so it's not an official thing here he's allowed to participate because it's not controlled by any governing body um he wore a rubber glove on one hand during a match and kept fucking uh you know pretending to showing it up like i'm gonna stick his finger up people's asses uh they people called it repulsive but in 2019 he says he has no regrets for fingering assholes. None. Nope.

He said that. Yeah. He said, quote, I'm proud of my finger antics. You can either embrace it and make it a joke or you'll be getting angry your whole life because people will be hammering you about it. You just need to embrace it. That's all OJ needed to do is embrace the fact that he cut his wife's head off. Yeah, I know. I mean, I fucking stabbed her good.

Right. Ron, too. Hell yeah. High high five what the fuck no um when you when you make it a joke people go oh he doesn't care and they forget about it no they don't no no they just make they just make fun of what you're saying about it now which is even funnier yeah um he said that uh he was quote doing a degree as a prostate cancer doctor he said i couldn't do my courses because i was playing full-time footy i had practice on the field and that's what i was doing i was just raising awareness for prostate cancer he said the nrl suspended me but i look at the game globally they should have paid me people in india knew who i was the finger man holy shit so in 2019 after that what does he do he goes back to boxing is that right he's in his

mid 40s he's like i'm gonna box more out of his mind he boxes paul gallen who's eight and oh he's a good fighter too jesus christ um and he got knocked out in the second round. So now he's 12 and six. He said, I got caught by a good punch and I can't hide from that. I went to sleep and fell over. He got knocked the fuck out, which isn't good for you when you're older, by the way. In November of 2019 at the St. Mary's Band Club. This is a real storied venue, I'm sure. He fights Lucas Big Daddy Brown brown who's 28 and 2

and kicks the shit out of him yeah yeah he loses again oh no no this leroy lucas big daddy whooped his ass yeah so he's 12 and 7 um i guess he stumbled across the ring and fell near his corner and uh he was he was trying to get to his stool, and he said he was preparing for the next round. He didn't realize he had to finish this one. Yeah. He said, quote, I had him hurt, but it just wasn't good enough. I gassed out, and he was the heavyweight champion of the world. Four days preparation just wasn't good enough, I suppose.

I guess he jumped in another fighter. Whatever. just wasn't good enough, I suppose. I guess he jumped in another fighter. Whatever. 2022, his son, Jamil, like we talked about, pleads guilty here. Officers, by the way, wow.

They had a, the cocaine they claim he sold had a street value of $154 million. This wasn't a little bit of coke. He wasn't selling eight balls. That's so much coke. This is major. They seized, this is what they seized, 154 million dollars worth. The coke was seized, it was imported on a plane from London to Sydney and swapped with powder waiting for it to be collected. They said that the son here opened up a truck door

and left with a backpack filled with bricks of fake cocaine because the cops did a sting. So they switched it out with the shit stuff. Then he got into a car driven by somebody else before officers began a high-speed pursuit throughout Sydney. Holy shit. So the pursuit ended. He then fled through backyards and over fences

before ditching the backpack and eventually getting caught and uh all that kind of shit so 154 million dollars where the coke fits in a backpack no no that's what they had okay got it he just took the backpack worth of it how did they shrink wrap that this was like a shit shit load uh half a ton they said yeah that's a lot a thousand pounds of coke we're talking about this is a lot of coke christ that's a shit fucking load of coke and so he's out there he pled guilty um so there you go i guess he's waiting to be sentenced he's been out on bail while he waits to be sentenced here i can't believe they let somebody get the fuck out of you

that's wild i'm sure he won't he won't try to scramble to make a you know the rest of his living out of this i'm sure he's good now so anyway um can't get enough of john well his kids are everywhere so he'll never be gone they'll be bringing him up forever because he has young children who are great at rugby so oh shit he's gonna live on and if you think he's not gonna get in trouble anymore, I think you're out of your fucking mind. I don't think this guy is going to age out of this shit at all. I think he has fun.

Yeah. Yeah. Look out. Watch your buttholes is what we're all saying. For sure. Everybody cover your buttholes. So that said, that is John Hoppa. Hoppa 8.

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I'll sleep in a trash can if I have to do it. That's fair, I think. You deserve to be fucked up if you travel that far. Absolutely. Janice Hill, Amy Coleman, congrats on your good divorce uh that's fantastic uh little latin lupe lu i i think i may be wrong but i think that's a porn star okay joe settle in portugal yang kong yang kong vang i believe sg julia mclaren steve bockler anagelic beverly stubs Steve Bockler, Anna Jellick, Beverly Stubbs, Tim Riddle, Zach Hernandez, David Prashaka, Richard Stone, Sarah Jane, Jacob Drozler, Punky Leonard, Chris Suihura, Devin Galloway, Ethan with no last name, Kelly Marie, William, no last name, Lauren, Lauren Birch, I think Jennifer Pitts, Jennifer Kuhn, Sarah T. Riley Mara, Harrison Graham, Tony Patrick, Jody with no last name, Will Thomas, Leona Soy, Desiree Hernandez, Steve Brown, Shraddha Lal, I think.

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Who knows? Patricio Argento, Haley Tebbe, Malcolm Simpson, Tavoli, Barry Young? What? Sandy Heltzel, Philip Berryhill, Pauline Strong. You're very confused this week. Jimmy's like he just got here from another plan i question every single one of these that's true you do have to be suspicious they're trying to make you say dumb shit so that's a good point dylan powell what does that mean are you trying to tell me i suck cocks who's that who's that does that mean i suck does that mean what is, a reference to the Goonies? What's happening? What am I missing? Colleen Strong, I think I said that.

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I'm sorry. Whatever those letters mean, that's her last name. He would like to say it, and he's thankful, though. Jack Murphy. Craig Cooper. Ellen the Red Dragon. Rachel with no last name. Tom Callahan. Big Tom Callahan,

Matthias Long, Nate Robinson, probably not, but another one, Daniel Beatty, Katrina Stratton, John Blair, Johnny Blair, Travis Loria, Jeff McNaught, T. Dolan, Chris Spall, Carla Walsh, Jeff the Bucket of Riglin' Peckers Heavener. Of course. Gotta have that. Goes without saying. Why the hell not? Gabby Kimes, Trevor Gaylert, Madison Vaught, Will Rockwell, Jenna Pantano, Jasper Goodfriend, Chris Scarmazzi. The Scarm...

I don't know. I don't know what it is. Your face on that one. Chris the Italian Scar. Vanita some nachos. You look so mad at yourself on that one. It's not your fault, Jimmy. It's not going to happen.

It's not your fault. Vanita some nachos. A random package. Stuart Myers calling with no last name. LaShonna Brown. Avery Webster, I believe. Robert Dauphin. Dauphin, maybe.

A.H. Dale Mason. Justin Collier. Jared Hart. Happy birthday, Jared. David Martin. Elizabeth Wood. Robert Colatoano. That's never going to happen, Robert.

Tyler Combs. Logan Moe. Jason Vickery. Trevor Beller. Sarah Amador. Cracking me up. Armador? Ornador. Yeah. Sarah, thanks.

Thanks, Sarah. John Cates, Stacy with no last name, Terrence Kelly, Chip with no last name, Ty Sharp, Meredith Piffle. Piffle. Piffle. That's a tough one. Sucky McNutt's All-Inclusive Clothing Company. Sharon Riley. Storm with no last name. Tucker, also no last name.

Taylor Gantz. Steven Sanders. S. Ice. Justin Killian. Dennis Abernathy. Colton Cieslowski. Taylor S. Well, I do say Eastern European.

I was going to say, let's add Polish to the list, but Eastern European and Italian. Michael Kubitschek. Tonelli Luganbill. Oh, boy. William McDaniel. John Kolick Jr. J-Rum 91. David with no last name.

JDR 67. James Villa. Lady Vera. Melody McKenney. Clinton Lewis. Wicked Sled. Danny Oakley. Susan Garwood.

Richard Johnson. There's another one. I don't believe you richard not not a bit we don't believe one person named richard donates to us at all so if your name's richard give us your middle name because we're not gonna buy it we're just not buying it sorry and johnson how dare you yeah that's not even ever at least smoker tried to put it in a they tried to couch it if you weren't paying attention, you might have. Ashley with no last name.

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that might be louise and my computer corrected that or lewis there's no way somebody's name is loose right no i mean first name it's possible yeah loose i mean might be a nickname maybe i mean not one that no anyone would probably call him to their face but hunter menzel sarah lee probably not katie gardner carly petrillo joe schrader frank arm arm armaton uh julie pollard echo with no last name aaron patterson c Caitlin Rotterham, Rebecca Carabalus, Mackenzie Dugan, Luke Young, Remick Albatrito, what? Nicole Lehman, Victoria Shen, Aaron Taurasi, Darcy Bristow, Team Jackson, Charlene Griffin, Robert Patrick, Barbara Flick, Ashley Blackwell, Carolyn Eldridge, Colin Anderson, Billy Eppinger,

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