Crime in Sports - #32 - The Miniature Teflon Monster - The Repetitiveness of Dave Meggett

Episode Date: September 6, 2016

This week, we have wall to wall crime, as we discuss a most horrid individual. A man who went from the highs of being a Super Bowl champion, to the lows of working the overnight shift in a sm...all town gas station, repeated arrests for the most terrible of crimes, selling his championship ring on eBay, and finally earning a prison sentence that won't have him free for decades. This episode is so jam packed with crimes, you will be amazed that a person could be free long enough to commit all of them. It's as crazy an episode as we've had, on one of the worst people. Return a punt for a touchdown, have a ridiculous amount of children, with a ridiculous amount of people, and force yourself on anyone within reach with Dave Meggett!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: crimeinsports@gmail.comDonate on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 And it sucks for me personally. This particular case we're going to do this week really sucks for me. Because I loved this guy a lot growing up as a sports fan. personally this particular case we're going to do this week really sucks for me because i love this guy a lot growing up as a sports fan and i really really liked him and everybody who's ever watched football yeah in the time period he played liked him there's he's never a guy like i hate that fucking guy everybody's like i love him he's great and uh his last name's so fun to say last name he's tiny. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, let's get into this thing. It's a thick pile, and it is just, we are chock full of crime this week, guys. It's just arrest after trial after alleged. This might be the thickest one. It's thick. It's juicy. It's Dave Meggett, guys. It's a lot. Dave Meggett.
Starting point is 00:03:22 David Lee Meggett. This stack is taller than he is. It's a lot. Dave Meggett. David Lee Meggett. This stack is taller than he is. It's taller than Dave. Dave, as you guys might remember, if you were a football fan from 1989 to about 1998, and you saw Dave, Dave is a little tiny guy. He's 5'7", 190. Jesus. I mean, Jimmy, he's you.
Starting point is 00:03:38 He's my size. He's you, but when he retired was the all-time leading NFL punt returner. Really? You would have had your neck broken. Yeah, a million times. Practice leading up to it, just training camp would have killed you. He somehow figured it out. Somehow figured it out. All-time leading punt returner. Yeah, he's second now, but he was number one when he retired. Yardage? Yardage. Okay, that's incredible. Number one when he retired. Wow. And he didn't play for
Starting point is 00:04:02 20 years. And who was another little fucker from the Bears? Why am I? Hester. Yeah, Devin Hester. So I know he's got all the touchdowns, Mr. Hester. So let's get right into David Lee Meggett
Starting point is 00:04:14 because he is a mess. This guy is a disaster. He's a monster without the size. And you're going to hear me as we go through the chronology of this whole thing go from like happy memories of loving
Starting point is 00:04:25 him and things on the field and then just going to just liking him less and less until we're telling him to fuck off later on and which will come but david lee meggett born april 30th 1966 in charleston south carolina all right he's a south carolina fellow he uh grows up in north charleston south carolina which is not north charleston it's a separate city called north really yeah charleston is kind of like a charming yeah it's beautiful yeah north charleston historic as fuck north charleston reeks from toxic fumes from a paper mill nearby literally that's like it's it's it's a horrible place tons of crime it's a shithole basically it's awful mega grows up there not an easy childhood for dave you know here's a shocker jimmy this is a weird thing guys fasten your seat belts for this one dad left when he was still in
Starting point is 00:05:19 the womb amazing yeah he is the youngest of eight kids. Wow. And dad, I don't know if that dad was the dad of all eight, and then the eighth one he was like, I can't take that anymore. Seven was my fucking, that was my threshold. Lucky seven, fine. Eight, there's nothing lucky about that. I'm gone, I'm leaving. It's too round. I don't want any part of it.
Starting point is 00:05:38 No way. Eight sounds like a nightmare. But yeah, his dad takes off. His mother tries her best, obviously, but she's got eight kids, and she's in a terrible, awful shithole of a nightmare. But yeah, his dad takes off. His mother tries her best, obviously, but she's got eight kids and she's in a terrible, awful shithole of a place. Yeah. And she's a short order cook to try to make ends meet. And it's just very sad. There's a lot of street crime, too.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And Dave, though, is very, very focused. He tells people from an early age, I'm going to college. I'm playing football. How about that? And they're like, look at you, you little guy. That's cute. That's adorable. You've got a little dream.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Look at you with your little dream. Isn't that cute? That is so cute. You're tiny, Dave. Don't forget that. They give him a noogie. They send him on his way. Have you seen Lyle Alzado?
Starting point is 00:06:20 You want to play against him? You want him to tackle you? Isn't that really good? But yeah, he avoids the streets through all this, so that's a good thing anyway. Football keeps him off the streets at this point. He's fine until he gets to the NFL. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Everything is fine. Everybody loves him. And then problems start after that. He goes to Morgan State first, which is a Division II-A school. Where's that at? I don't know where that is. Morgan State? Morgan State. I'll Google it while we keep going. It's that at? I don't know where that is. Morgan State?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Morgan State. I'll Google it while we keep going. It's a terrible small college. And that's only where he went at first. And then he ended up at Townsend after that. Really? Yeah, Townsend's a little better, but still won AA. Great college career.
Starting point is 00:06:57 In 1988, which is his senior year, he wins the Walter Payton Award. Oh, really? Yeah, that's the Division 2A Player of the Year Award. Wow. I mean, he's a bad little shit. Morgan State's in Maryland. Maryland. Okay, really? Yeah, that's the Division IIA Player of the Year Award. Wow. So, I mean, he's a bad little shit. Morgan State's in Maryland. Maryland. Okay, I figured it was somewhere in that.
Starting point is 00:07:09 It's just up the road. It's not far. You know, mid-Atlantic region, I kind of figured. I mean, he's just very explosive on the field. I can imagine. At one point later on, he is ranked or rated, however they would rate this, but I saw he's rated as like the number five strongest player in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Really? I guess it's probably pound for pound. Yeah. But I mean, that's, I can't imagine he's bench pressing
Starting point is 00:07:31 more than a 330 pound line. Right, exactly. You know what I mean? He's like an ant. Yeah. You know, he can lift 10 times his body weight.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He's very tiny, but he's drafted by the Giants. He's Ant-Man. He's Ant-Man. Drafted by the New York Giants in the fifth round. He was drafted by them. That was a 1989 draft.
Starting point is 00:07:48 1989. That makes sense. I remember him exploding. Yeah. The rookie year, he was a sensation. Yeah. You couldn't miss this guy. He was a little number 30.
Starting point is 00:07:56 He had such a manly face. Oh, yeah. A little manly face. With a chiseled jaw. He was a nasty little kind of slot guy. Backfield, running back. He caught as many passes as he had rushes in the leagues at the end. That's what he would do. He was a square, though.
Starting point is 00:08:11 He was very strong and stocky. Just a little, tiny pinball. He looked like, oh God, they're going to kill him when they tackle him. He would somehow bounce around. He would come out of the backfield. That's how he got his yards. They're like, don't hurt the little guy. Don't hurt the little guy. They felt bad. They tried to just gently bring him to the ground it didn't work he keeps running he comes out of the backfield catches passes third down back and
Starting point is 00:08:34 punt returner extraordinaire that's what he's really really uh meant for bill parcells who will become as silver a haired a middle-aged gentleman as we have ever covered. Just absolute... First, he hates Dave Meggett. Really? He did not want him drafted. He bitched to the general manager, quote, What do I need another midget for?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Hilarious. They already had one? They had Joe Morris at the time. It was like 5'9 or something. What do I need another midget for? Another midget. Joe Morris was a great back, too. That 86 championship.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Pick a giant fellow that'll lock me out of practice like LT's doing every other week. No shit. But hey, LT got on that field. And I know LT just got arrested. And I don't know what happened. But goddammit, he's still the best player to ever walk on the fucking field. I don't care what anybody says. This is the DUI.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It doesn't matter. He hit a tree. DUI. And then he hit a cop car. I'm okay with that. No civilians involved. He sideswiped a cop. That's fucking tree and then he hit a cop car. I'm okay with that. No civilians involved. He sideswiped a cop. That's fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Is he okay, the cop? Yeah. All right, fine. I think it was in Charleston, too. Give the guy an autograph and fucking... Yeah. He can stay there. He got sacked by LT.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I'm just older now and I use my car. Same thing. Sign him a book and hand it over. There you go, pal. So, ends up being Bill Parcells' favorite player pretty much ever. I mean, he just loves it because he's so versatile. He catches punts. You put him on third down.
Starting point is 00:09:50 He's bouncy. He comes out. He's tough to tackle. He's just, he's explosive. He's a playmaker. He's a playmaking utility player. You can use him anywhere. If he touches the ball, everybody goes, oh, shit, because he might go.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I mean, you might not tackle him. He's that kind of guy. A little nowhere near as good, but a little Barry Sanders-esque, little bouncer didn't have Barry Sanders acrobatics. Did he get a ring? Dave Mega got a ring. How about that? Absolutely. Later on, we'll get to that. His rookie year, though, 89, he makes the Pro Bowl that year. That's how good he is in his rookie year.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Wow, in his rookie year, he's in the Pro Bowl. Leads the league with 582 punt yards and one touchdown. That's incredible. He kills it, man. And Phil Sims, here's a quote from Phil Sims, who at the time was a starting quarterback, and he has two rings with the Giants from 86 and 90. He says, quote,
Starting point is 00:10:35 We're working David into the offense, letting him do more things each week. He's still young. We don't want to rush him, but he's got great talent. And every time he gets the ball, you have to watch out. So that's basically it. One of the scouts said, of all the guys he covered, he said, he's the guy I lost my voice over. So that says a lot. Really? He's just
Starting point is 00:10:54 screaming. I can't believe it. This fucking guy. Look at this little guy go. Oh my God, I hope he doesn't rape people. Foreshadowing. A little foreshadowing, guys. Next season, 1990, leads the league in punt return yards again again has another touchdown i mean he's great 1989 1990 1990 now uh mark collins says of him who's a teammate cornerback mark collins he was number 25 on those teams i remember mark collins making a fucking play that drives me nuts now.
Starting point is 00:11:25 In the 1988 playoffs against the Rams, Jim Everett's a fourth down play, long, it was like fourth and 12. Jim Everett throws his shit pass over the middle
Starting point is 00:11:35 for the Rams and Mark Collins fucking interferes with the receiver and gets a first down. The Rams end up winning the playoff game. I've never been so angry
Starting point is 00:11:43 at a man in my life. Mark Collins, you asshole. So anyway, he says of old Dave, quote, Dave walked around the locker room just shucking and jiving and laughing. He had that embracing, funny element to him. Everybody just gravitated to him. So that's everybody like Dave. It's tough to say shuck and jive, though, and not be racist.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It is. Well, Mark Collins is very black. So he can say it. I'm quoting him. It's fine. I am not judging Dave's ability to shuck and or jive. That has nothing to do with me. Collins has got to tone it down, though. Collins a little bit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:18 He said it kind of white, too, the way he said it, too. Yeah, the whole phrase sounds like a white gas phrase. Everybody just gravitated to him. It was wonderful. Everyone gravitated to him. He was wonderful. He was shucking and jiving.
Starting point is 00:12:27 He was shucking and jiving. Big smile on his face. All you could see was his teeth. He was fantastic. Mark Collins, Mary Black.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Thank God Mark Collins didn't throw Steppenfetch in there. Absolutely. So, I mean, great, great season there
Starting point is 00:12:41 in 89 after his rookie year in February 8th, 1990, before the 1990 season. He's in Baltimore, Maryland. It is 11.45 in the morning, mind you. Nothing happens good. 11.45 in the morning. Oh, morning, what?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Morning. This is mid-morning. Oh, boy. This is in an area, like the waterfront area. There are business people going to lunch and stuff. This is a very... They're going down to get their crab cakes. And he is going down to apparently get a prostitute.
Starting point is 00:13:09 It's that time of day. It's that time of day. Because he just woke up and it's rock hard. Any time of day is that time of day for Dave Meggett, as we're going to find out. He has so much horny packed into his little fucking frame. Unbelievable. It's not even horny. It's just...
Starting point is 00:13:22 He's the tiniest monster I've ever seen. It's just sex rage. He has all the monstrosity of Tom Payne. Packed into a 5'9". Yeah, this 7'2", 300-pound man. 5'7", is that what you said? Yeah, packed into a 5'7". Jesus.
Starting point is 00:13:37 He's even got a... We'll get into this. I'm not going to give this away. Okay. So he's arrested and charged with lewdness and soliciting a prostitute. Lewdness? Lewdness. In the Fells Point area. Like he tugged his dick out and was like, do you want some of this? I think it's
Starting point is 00:13:52 for what he said. How much for this one? How much for one of these? I got one of these. How much? I was in the Pro Bowl last year. It's not blotchy. It's solid. I'm in the Pro Bowl. How much for a Pro Bowl dick? Pro Bowl cock. So Officer Mary wittes said that she saw meggett drive by the street twice in his car he went forward he went back and uh
Starting point is 00:14:13 and she was you know observed this because she's a police officer and she's playing a prostitute she's oh it's a sting it's a sting yeah she's out there doing that so she walked down the block a little went across the street when she went across the street, she said Meggett pulled up in his car to the curb and stuck his head out the window, which I find fucking hilarious. Yeah. He pulls up. He's so tiny. He's got his little head out the window.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Hey, how you doing? Can I get some? Like, it's just so ridiculous. Like, he was ordering a taco out of a damaged box, you know? I'll take a suck and fuck to go, please. Suck and fuck to go, please. Ironically, you said that, too, because we'll get to what he was after here. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:14:46 He said that? That is awesome. We'll see. Apparently, like I said, he said, quote, are you looking for a date? She said, why? And he said, because I'm interested. Right? That's how that went down.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And then she asked, well, what do you want? And he, quote, this is how I could get out of all these articles, quote, gave the slang term for oral sex and intercourse. Hilarious. He said suck and fuck. I want to get a half and half for a suck and fuck or whatever they call it
Starting point is 00:15:13 on the Hookers at the Point HBO documentary. That's awesome. I want the original combo meal, the suck and fuck. The old suck and fuck, the number one. No, not supersized.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You know what he offered for this glorious procedure? 50 bucks. 40 bucks. 40. What a cheap bastard. He's a prince, isn't he? I'll give you 20 for each.
Starting point is 00:15:32 40, yeah, that's basically what it is. Yeah. 40 bucks, and she called in the other cops, and they arrest him, and he's taken off the court. They arrested him on grounds of being too cheap. You cheap son of a bitch. And I guess his terminology got him to lose his charge. At no point did it mention
Starting point is 00:15:48 that his cock was out. I will say that. May 1st, 1990, he's acquitted of prostitution. He's acquitted of the soliciting charge. He takes the stand and he says, that didn't happen. He says, I talked to her. I tried to get her number.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I just saw a girl. I was like, hey, what's happening, baby? He said, I didn't offer her any money. I didn't solicit shit. How about that? He got on the stand and they went, his word versus hers. Who knows? He's in the NFL. He's a pro bowler.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Bill Parcells loves him. Fuck it. Let him go. He leads the NFL in punt return charges. Or yards. In yardage. And he definitely leads in charges for a while. That's awesome. he actually said suck and
Starting point is 00:16:26 fuck whatever the hell he said i hope that's exactly what he said i do too i really do if i ever get to talk to him you go suck and fuck was it suck and fuck was that the lewd part so mark collins his teammate here says quote we made fun of him the next year during the team's oh yeah oh, they did. Because it was in the paper. He was like, you know, hot shit rookie. Absolutely. It was pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So 1990 season comes on. Things get much better for Dave. Because in the 1990 season, the Giants win the Super Bowl. One of the most exciting Super Bowls ever with the last minute 47 yarder by Scott Norwood misses. Wide right. Wide right. Wide right. And he was a big guy.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I remember him making a couple big plays in that game, getting some yardage. So now he's got a ring. He's got a ring. That's incredible. He's doing great. I mean, he is the guy on the Giants for all this shit. They love him. He's the utility guy.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And this is when the Giants start to suck. Because after that Super Bowl, Bill Parcells leaves. They bring in, I think it was Ray Handley was this fucking guy. And he goes, let's get rid of everybody and just be terrible. He looked like a drip. He's just one of these guys. Was that Hostetler? That was, yeah, he gave the job to Hostetler.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And Hostetler was fine, but I like Phil Simms better. But that doesn't matter. Let's keep going here. Dave, in 1993, he throws a touchdown pass on an option. He did this a couple times in his career. Yeah, against the Washington Redskins. He's just such a good athlete. He could do that.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And so they'd throw it out to him. He'd pitch it out. He'd run out like he's taking off. Everybody's scared because it's Dave. And he throws it. Throws it right over. It's wide open. All the safeties charge the line.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Oh, they freeze. Yeah, they're like, oh, shit. Megan's got the ball. Here he comes. Yeah. Everybody get in your position. Yeah, they're like, oh, shit, Meggett's got the ball. Here he comes. Yeah. Everybody get in your position. No, he doesn't. So, 1995, Bill Parcells becomes coach of the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And who does he go out and get? I got to get my guy. Dave Meggett. He goes out and signs him some Dave Meggett. He said, mister, come over here. My hair is as silver as it comes. Where's sucking fuck? I'd like to help you out.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So that's... And he has another event in 1995 as he's arrested for domestic violence. Oh god. Against his girlfriend. Yeah. And this actually, again, acquitted. Wow. He ends up being acquitted. It ends up going in his favor, which is
Starting point is 00:18:39 insane. The judge ruled that he, quote, exerted reasonable force to stop her from entering his home. We're talking about the girlfriend so whatever. Apparently Whatever reasonable force. How do they deem that? You can put your hands on her to stop her? Well, yeah. Apparently the story was
Starting point is 00:18:55 she claimed that he picked her up and threw her out onto the concrete. I don't know if that's considered reasonable force for a strong professional athlete to toss a woman onto the country. Again, it's used to getting hit and hitting people. Yeah, but apparently they were fine with it. So what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:19:11 He's acquitted. He makes the Pro Bowl, again, 96 for the Patriots. So everything's going just fine there. You know, that's terrific. He has 588 punt yards and one touchdown in 96. Wow. New England goes to the Super Bowl that year. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:26 He goes to Green Bay, Brett Favre, and all that shit, if you remember that. Super Bowl. Bill Parcells hangs his head in shame. 1997, he is sued for nonpayment of child support. By the woman that he beat? No, no. Oh, that was just a girlfriend. There are, let's get into Dave's.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Oh, no. Let's get into today's extracurricular activity shall we oh boy okay uh let's we'll get into that in a second but he is uh woman she sues him for non-payment of child support for a 21 month old daughter he owes 60,000 in back child support jesus uh two weeks before this this is what prompted her to do this he refused to put the kid on his health insurance. So she said, okay, well, give me your fucking child support then. At the trial, Dave claimed it wasn't his kid, which they found out it was, but he was like, hey, my kid.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I'm just doing her a favor. I don't know. He also broke down crying on the stand and said that, oh, my God, said that, quote, reading the Bible has led me to a moral epiphany. Oh, no. He literally went with the Bible. What a dick. He's like, I've been reading the Bible.
Starting point is 00:20:32 He owed $61,000. $60,000. Okay, at what point do you start, that's a lot of fucking money. It is. At what point do you start raising hell? $20,000, I'd say it's a pretty good number to be like look maybe we should start talking about some doubling up some payments here and there you want to get to 60 before you sue well this this she probably had to get in line because all right
Starting point is 00:20:55 one second here uh dave would show up or one thing here now proceeding he's such a dick and every everybody thinks he's like such a great, he would show up early before court to sign autographs and take pictures with the court staff and shit. Like, you know, they're just the, you know, whatever, the typist in this guy. He's like, hey guys, let's take some autographs. It's like so ridiculous, man.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's so ridiculous. Hey you that's about to transcribe my words, want an autograph and a picture? And big shocker, guess what? It works. Judge reduces the $60,000 to $22,500. Wow. So basically a third.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Wow. So the Bible thing and the showing up. And they said, he's a good guy. What are we talking about here? Meanwhile, he's a professional goddamn football player. And I would have less sympathy for him because he has no less than, guess. I'm going to go with nine. Nine.
Starting point is 00:21:47 No way. Ding, ding, ding. I am good at Dave Beckett. This is great. How many different women? Seven. Eight. Eight.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Eight. He has two with one woman. He trumped you. He just said, fuck that. Fuck you, Jimmy. You don't know shit. You don't know anything. It's eight.
Starting point is 00:22:01 He has eight. Seven. You think I am. Nine kids with eight women he only knocked up one twice everybody else gets one he's just spraying maggot seed everywhere maggot little maggots flying around everywhere like chris burman used to say look at that little maggot run look at those little sperm swim they get into everything that is incredible unreal i Not big on paying child support, basically. He's the original Sean Kemp. He is.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And an ex-girlfriend said about him talking about the kids, this is unreal. She said, quote, he said those women were groupies. He never intended to have a child with them, so he didn't look at it as his child. He sure wasn't not trying. I didn't mean to have a kid with them, so it's not mine. It ain't mine. It's hers, though. She has to pay for it, so someone should. I wasn't not trying. I didn't mean to have a kid with them, so it's not mine. It ain't mine. It's hers, though. She has to pay for it, so someone should.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I wasn't trying, so... Unreal, man. The only time I get a kid is when I'm trying. Is that what it is? That's it. By that count, I don't have any kids either. No kids. You have no kids, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:22:58 None. Hey, you know what? Go home, pack your shit up, go get a one-bedroom apartment. At least you can deal with these kids on your own, because those are not mine. I wasn't trying. I wasn't trying. That's all you. I wasn't trying to have kids. I was trying to finish, but I wasn't trying to have kids. Relieved of responsibility. You weren't trying. That's what I've learned from this podcast so far. She was just a groupie. Just saying my wife was a groupie. Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. She's a groupie. We've been married for years and we're raising a family, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:23:25 I didn't mean for that to happen. You are a real wife groupie. You're a real wife groupie. And this is the best part. The 1997 New England Patriots media guide listed him having one kid. Which is great. Davin, who
Starting point is 00:23:41 ends up actually later on playing in a bunch of NFL practice squads. He's a little squirrely shit like his brother. Their math was a little off. A little off there. Davin here says about Dave, quote, If he cares about someone, he's going to go out of his way to take care of you. He's really been a best friend to 40 or 50 different people. He did the best he could.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I mean, you try raising nine kids in four states with no money. How about don't get eight women fucking pregnant raising nine kids in four states with no money. How about don't get eight women fucking pregnant with nine kids in four states with no money? Wear rubbers, dum-dum. Good God. That's the other thing. He's not big on that either. He doesn't really care as we're going to get into some shit here.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah, clearly. December 6th, 1997. This is the day before a game. They're in Jacksonville, Florida, getting ready to play the Jaguars. Megadis served with a writ by Florida Marshals, so the cops come to the hotel. He's not allowed to leave the state
Starting point is 00:24:33 until he posts a $25,000 bond for non-payment of child support. Again. He's a deadbeat dad. He just doesn't. Getting caught up in those laws. He posted the bond at the team hotel. Who knows? Bill Parcells probably pulled it out of his pocket. Here you go, Dave. Why don't you go in there, pay this off,
Starting point is 00:24:49 and get out on the field tomorrow. Go break for a touchdown for us, would you? Absolutely. And he, next day, December 7, 1997, in Jacksonville, he has five rushes for 22 yards, five receptions for 39 yards, and very crucial points. The Patriots win 26-20. So, I mean, gets right back on the field.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Parcells goes. Forgets all about it. It's a little mega sperm running. I don't give a shit. I couldn't care less how many people you knock up. So, February 1998. This is when shit gets really real here. It's about to catch up with him.
Starting point is 00:25:23 He slapped around and threw his girlfriend down, which is horrible. Don't get me wrong, but I mean, that's that. He's had a prostitute run in. He's not paying his child support. He's just a scumbag at this point, right?
Starting point is 00:25:34 This is when he crosses the line from scumbag to... Piece of shit. Predator and monster here. There's a call... Well, first of all, this happens first. There's a report of suspicious activity in early February 1998 involving Meggett, but
Starting point is 00:25:49 no arrests are made in this particular case. A 20-year-old female who knew him as, quote, Mike, remember the name Mike. That's fascinating. He likes the name Mike. That's fascinating. And he uses it often. Really? Only with young women.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It's super weird. That's an interesting choice. Mike. Yeah. I don't get it. an interesting choice Mike yeah I don't get Mike Megget I don't know if he used his last name Mike
Starting point is 00:26:08 and he brought her over to her house and gave her a bunch of alcohol he tried to kiss her and put his hand down her pants and she resisted
Starting point is 00:26:16 and wanted to leave and Megget got angry and wouldn't give her a ride home the cops were called and basically the cops just came out and said alright you drunken
Starting point is 00:26:23 fucking idiots we'll take the girl home. You get your stupid ass back in the house and we're calling it a night. Stop trying to finger people. Yeah, but it was a report taken and it's in there. Oh, nice. Later on in the month.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And she learned that his name's Dave. And yeah, later, yeah, she's going to learn. That's not Mike, that's Dave. This is in Toronto. Because also in Toronto, February 27th, 1998, Dave is arrested in Toronto for sexual assault and robbery. Oh, my God. Shit's getting real now.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Those are charges. What's he doing in Toronto? He is at a guy named Steve Brannan's bachelor party. Steve Brannan is a practice squad player who was with the Giants, the Patriots, basically everywhere that Parcells and Meggett were. And he also played for one of the Canadian teams, and he was a member of the Barcelona Dragons at this point.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Those goddamn Dragons. Those damn Dragons. Eric Naposki, this fucking idiot. So anyway, they have a hearing on the afternoon of the 27th of February, and they're released on this Friday afternoon. They have a court date set for March 13th. Now, let's get into what happened here. Okay. Because it is interesting. This is, he's dipping his toe in the water here.
Starting point is 00:27:30 They're at the Royal Oak Hotel, which is a nice hotel, waterfront deal, about 1 a.m. Brandon's got this bachelor party going on. He brings in a 33-year-old escort named Betty Hurin. Now, Hurin was, has Brandon and Huron have done this before? This is like his regular hooker that he calls when he's there. And so they know each other. They've dealt with each other many times
Starting point is 00:27:54 and all this. So they're basically he called her in to share her with Dave. That's the point, right? They're going to have a three-way and they're going to bang the shit out of this hooker. It's disgusting, right? They're going to run a train onway and they're going to bang the shit out of this hooker. It's disgusting, right? They're going to run a train on a hooker. On a hooker. Brandon and Huron were in the room. Meggett walked in, saw
Starting point is 00:28:11 Huron and said, quote, it's party time and threw down $480 in cash. Is that enough for a second five? His children could have desperately used. There's kids out there just with no Cheerios and an empty box going, 400. But it's party time in Canada.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's party time. So Dave and Brandon took turns, apparently, back and forth. And she said they were very, very rough with her. I can imagine. They were aggressive. And at some point, Meg gets condom breaks. And she tells him to stop because she's a hooker. And that's what hookers do.
Starting point is 00:28:45 They're like, hey, you know, I guess this is my vehicle here. I'm not going to let you pour sugar in my gas tank. Sorry, honey. Put a condom on, sweetheart. So he laughed at her
Starting point is 00:28:58 and kept going. So she kept trying to stop. At this point, she says that Megget said, this is amazing, quote, Meggett said the Patriots test him for AIDS all the time and I wouldn't catch anything. He had a real attitude, like he was something special because he's a football player that gets tested. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Which is ridiculous. So he's like, I'm good. That's not what I'm talking about, Mr. Meggett. No, no, no, no, no. Sugar in the gas tank. I'm talking about, I don Megan. No, no, no, no, no. Sugar in the gas tank. I'm talking about, I don't want a kid that pulls me out the game for nine months. Exactly. And you're not going to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:29:31 We've established that. I've looked at the court records. So she continues to resist. So Brandon holds her arms down. Oh, wow. This shit's getting, this is like. It's already a rape. Yeah, this is bad here.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah. Durin said, quote, I couldn't believe Steve wasn't stopping him. He was supposed to be my friend. You've got friends as a hooker? You're a prostitute. There are no friends. If you were friends, he wouldn't offer to pay you for sex and you wouldn't want money for it. That's not how friendship works.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Either you don't have sex with someone or you do for free. That's friendship. And you don't mix business and friendships ever. No, no, no. So anyway, she wiggles free out of this before Dave has a chance to finish. Yeah. And she runs into the bathroom and cleans up to clean up. She emerges from the bathroom to find Megit rifling through her pockets of her coat. Wow. Looking for his money back. Yeah. He wants his money back. She tries to stop him. Meggett starts slapping her in the face now at this point. Yeah, because there's no Yelp for hookers.
Starting point is 00:30:31 There's no Yelp for hookers and no Yelp for NFL players who get hookers, apparently. They need like an Uber that goes both ways for that, you know? That's how that works. Overseas, I don't know if you have Uber, but sorry, it's a ride-sharing thing over here. Anyway, she says but just of the slaps like her description of it god help me for laughing at this but i don't know why i had to laugh at this she says quote from one side of my ear to the other boom boom boom and steve is just standing there that's when the tears started he's paint brushing her like
Starting point is 00:31:00 bobby the brain enon used to talk. I'll paint brush that guy back. What a fucking asshole. He's painting the fence on her face. He doesn't want to use a condom with a hooker. He's trying to steal his money back after he raped her, which, Jesus, you at least give her the fucking money, you jackass. And now he's paint brushing her on top of it. This is horrible.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And she's still looking at Steve for help at this point. That's the other thing. And he's standing there with his arms crossed going, you deserve this. That's when the tears started. She said, and Steve is just standing there. I think that's what she was upset about. Like, he won't help me.
Starting point is 00:31:32 The tears started then? I would have been crying in the bathroom when I was like, my friend just held me down to get raped. That probably happens when you're a prostitute. I'm not sure. I don't know the life of a prostitute, but I assume that's like a... She's probably just standing in the bathroom washing up going, again, this happened again. But she's still looking at Steve for help here, which that's like a she's probably just standing in the bathroom washing up going again this happened again
Starting point is 00:31:45 but she's still looking at Steve for help here which that's the thing where I'm like Steve's out of the picture Steve called his NFL buddy to come help
Starting point is 00:31:53 have sex with you Steve held you down he's a piece of shit too Steve's a piece of shit don't expect anything from Steve right so she flees the room Huron flees the room
Starting point is 00:32:02 and was spotted by other hotel guests crying hysterically with their clothes half on, trying to look for her money. They call the police. She's taken to the hospital. She's given a quadruple dose of the morning after pill. She's tested for STDs.
Starting point is 00:32:13 The whole deal, which she may or may not have had anyway because she's a goddamn hooker. So anyway, meanwhile, the boys, they go out drinking. They're like, well, prostitution time's over. Let's go get some drinks. Let's go find some chicks so we can at least fit. The blue balls they must have been going through too. Must have been insanity. Maybe they jerked each other off, these two idiots. That wouldn't surprise me. Hey, man, we're teammates. Listen, you grab hold of this one, I'll grab hold of that one. We're teammates, man. Let's help each other out. I've seen it before in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:32:39 remember? Remember when I asked you to hold the tackling dummy? Remember that? Well, it was the same thing. So Meg gets arrested at the bar, and he was... Hold my tackling dummy. Yeah, stand behind it. So he's worried. He told the cops he was worried the handcuffs were going to scratch his watch. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Hey, man, you're scratching my watch. Take it easy. This watch is worth more than that hooker. Oh, take it easy, man. What's going on here? So this whole thing is just a fucking disaster, basically. She's at the hospital minor injuries the whole deal yeah uh he hires alan d gold sounds fucking high power he is
Starting point is 00:33:12 extremely high powered and silver and yeah haired and white and it's the best they have to offer basically he says that dave will plead not guilty and that it was a quote incident of consensual sex yeesh and so that's that, which, whatever. Apparently he's Canada's premier defense attorney at the time, this guy, which you would expect. His hair has got to be as silver as shit, this man. I mean, how many Toronto Argonauts is he free from the pokey? They begin a smear campaign against Heron at this point.
Starting point is 00:33:41 That's so sad. Dave does this. When women come forward, he will try to actively... Just assassinate their character. Their character, everything, get their names in the press, that sort of thing. He has no scruples at all.
Starting point is 00:33:53 This is nine days after the arrest. An article appears in the Herald headline, quote, Megget accuser evicted for non-payment in 95. What? They're bringing up her rental history on the front page of the paper
Starting point is 00:34:05 because she got held down and raped by two football players. You know why she's got no payment? It's because guys rape her and then steal her money. And then steal the money back. Yeah. The landlord should come here.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Instead, the landlord is in this article saying horrible shit about her. The ex-landlord says, quote, she's a liar and an admitted call girl. She would say she had the money then she wouldn't give it to us. That sounds very, like, foreign. That's a liar and an admitted call girl she would say she had the money
Starting point is 00:34:25 then she wouldn't give it to us that sounds very like foreign that's a man like she said she had money then not give to us you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:34:33 very angry I told her I'd not fix furnace you pay rent on time you will have no hot water like some guy that was in the Israeli army
Starting point is 00:34:41 or something and he just doesn't care I don't care and then he got out of the country to go run a fucking apartment complex somewhere. He's like, fuck it. Toronto apartment complex, I find my home.
Starting point is 00:34:52 You pay rent, I talk to paper if you don't. I live free and enforce rent. Think about this guy, too. This is like his dream. He's been talking about her for fucking three years ago. He's like, that hooker that would not pay rent. She fucked guys in the apartment, leave semen all over the ceiling. And then she's like, that hooker, the hooker that would not pay rent, she fucked guys in department, leave semen all over ceiling.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And then she's like, fine, the press come knocking. I'm like, her? She's horrible. Oh, I have so much to say. She is liar. She would tell me I have the money that she would not give to us.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Like, I totally picture. You sound like the Iron Sheik. She is liar. She is liar. I took out all the A's and the's. She said she had money to not give to us. I put her in Camel Clutch. There's no proof this man is born anywhere outside of Toronto.
Starting point is 00:35:33 You may be French-Canadian. We're just ruining him. That could be possible, too. But I want to picture him as an angry ex-Israeli commando. With no hair on top. Like seven hairs over the top of his head. A comedian with no hair on top, like seven hairs over the top of his head. And hair just firing out of his shirt collar, just from the back of his neck.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Wreaking of cigars. Very angry man. He looks like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, basically, is what I'm looking like here. He looks like... Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. That's what he looks like. That V-neck shirt with his hair. She says she has money that she did not give to us. She calls a girl.
Starting point is 00:36:12 She's a liar. She says, you have my money that she did not give to us. We sit around. We go, she come with money, 8 o'clock. She did not show up. She did not get security back. No security deposits. You see what she did to carpet?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Carpet destroyed. Destroyed. Destroyed. It was all stinky. Oh, it's all stinky. I know what that is. I know it's stupid. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It was in the Israeli army. So this poor girl, anyway, that's being... We're making fun of him, not her, so it's fine. And they're just throwing this shit in the press so yeah this is a mess I mean this poor woman's
Starting point is 00:36:48 in this whole thing he the begins it's supposed to take place I believe March 13th this is what's supposed to start it gets delayed
Starting point is 00:36:56 till May 4th yeah and then June 24th I'm sorry I know you're still thinking about the lead shake mom
Starting point is 00:37:04 I can't I can't get his fucking face out of my head. I can just picture him like sawing lamb off of a giant spit. Making a gyro as they're interviewing him.
Starting point is 00:37:12 exactly. I make for you is good. I make shawarma, good shawarma for you. Here, you take. Don't say you have money,
Starting point is 00:37:22 then no gift to me. I tell the paper. I go right to the paper I make for you oh god anybody who is a falafel making Middle Eastern is going to hate us I can't stop laughing this is ridiculous
Starting point is 00:37:36 so okay glad we're having fun here June 24th 1998 serious there's rape on the is there rape on the table jimmy rape on the table you shouldn't have said i make for you oh god that's awful so charges are withdrawn by prosecutors what at this point withdrawn lack of evidence it's basically he said they all can't stop laughing
Starting point is 00:38:02 that's why i can't stop laughing because they talk to the landlord. But basically, a lot of his things are he said, she said. He doesn't say, like, I didn't have sex with her. He'll be like, yeah, it was consensual. And then they're like, it's he said, she said. He's a famous guy. He sets it right up to that cusp, right to that edge to where they just have to go, look, we got no proof. And the prosecutors in this case were like, honestly, she's a call girl.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I mean, so basically the jury right away is going to say... Yeah, already it ruins anything she's about to say. Absolutely. Which is crazy to me that that profession... I mean, I get it, but it's weird that that profession, no matter what you say, it's just taken with a grain of salt. And what she was doing was actually legal at this point in Canada. Really? I'm not sure if it still is, but at this point like... And what she was doing was actually legal at this point in Canada. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:45 I'm not sure if it still is, but at this point, this particular form of escorting was actually legal. So this was not like she was like a dirty hooker that was going to be arrested. So she wasn't on a street hooker.
Starting point is 00:38:55 She was called to a hotel by a professional football player and paid $480. Yeah. So she's not like getting a $40, giving $40 half and halves on the curb like 1990 Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Right. So now we have some fun. Now we'll get some descriptions from his girlfriends. Awesome. Megan has a lot of girlfriends, as you might imagine. Clearly. They all love him. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:16 They all love him. During this whole thing, one of his girlfriends came to his defense in the media and was like, no, no, no, no no you don't know Dave one described how romantic he was said that he left a trail of rose petals one time up his house an elaborate thing that said follow and then you'd find more and it said the way and then there was
Starting point is 00:39:36 more to my heart you cheese dick little asshole fucking what you little cock you're ruining it for men everywhere you asshole another described him bringing a lobster dinner to her work cafeteria for valentine's day and like big bouquets of flowers and i wish she would have hit him with it oh i know take this yeah get away from me with the shellfish i have an allergy i don't know if he raped her though probably not uh one of the exes
Starting point is 00:40:01 says of him this is an amazing quote here by the way quote he was just a nice guy he was sweet he was so romantic he was like the perfect guy except he was a total liar if you told him the sky was blue he'd say it was green he made you fall in love with him and then it was too late when the bad things came to light she's not good at analogies by the way that is not her lying that's he might be colorblind right at that point if he might go looks green to me right blue looks purple to me my eyes are fucked up like that so i don't know but he's the perfect guy except he lies he's a total liar he's the guy he's a guy then he's just he's a guy yeah but worse but he's got fucking motivation of rape
Starting point is 00:40:40 absolutely he just wants to get in your gash. That's it. The mother of one of his kids here who sued him the year before, because he got sued multiple times, this is the lady from the year before who sued him, says of the rape case, quote, it doesn't sound like him at all. But then he wouldn't be the first athlete that was ever taken advantage of. There are a million people out there who will say something to get a piece of someone's fame.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So this is his ex-girlfriends are saying like, oh yeah, she's totally trying to play him and she's a raped hooker. That sounds like women though that they have motivation of child support and if that hooker gets any money out of him, then that's money out of their kids' mouths. That's what that sounds
Starting point is 00:41:20 like to me. I'm sure too. And I'm sure too, he was probably calling all these women that he's still in good relationships with and saying, hey, talk to probably calling all these women that he's still in good relationships with and saying, hey, talk to this one. Your reporter's going to call you. Say some good shit about me. Say some good shit about me because otherwise I'm not going to be able to pay child support.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Not only that, too, he's got a great defense attorney that is, you know, puppeting all of this shit. Absolutely. So the guy knows what he's doing here. Fucking gold. At this point, though, 1998, Dave's released by the Patriots. They are not having this shit. Uh-oh. That is Bob Craft's policy, apparently, is the no violence toward women thing.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And not just that. It's just, you don't fuck up. No, I'm the Patriots. In Bob Craft's organization, you do not fuck up or you're out of here. They all said it was his mantra, basically. If you hit women or do anything bad to women, you're cut, basically. Good for him. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:42:03 He just has straight women. It's good shit. Head coach Pete Carroll, whose hair is a little silver, but not quite in this quote, but he wanted to be nice to him here. Pete Carroll, the current coach of the Seattle Seahawks. At the time, he took over for Bill Parcells in a sinking New England ship.
Starting point is 00:42:17 He was fired pretty quickly after that. Belichick took over. He's still there. And then he went to cheat at USC and sink that shit. And then he ran off to Seattle. Yeah, he ran off to Seattle. He won the Super Bowl. Ran off to Seattle when all that started to unfold. Yeah. So head coach Pete Carroll says, quote,
Starting point is 00:42:31 when that incident happened, it was so egregious. And I like David. You couldn't help liking him. If you see a pattern developing at some point, you have to decide if that pattern is taking you down the wrong road. We can't decide behavior, but we can decide whether we want somebody to be a part of what we're doing. In other words, get the fuck out of here, you little rapist.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Head on down the road and I'll say some fairly decent shit about you in the press. Yeah. So, I mean, all this is going on. This is active and this, I mean, this was all just dismissed. This is very big in the press. This was a, you know, kind of a, just a sleazy, one of those things. It was very, you know kind of a just a sleazy yeah one of those things it was very you know tabloidy right and uh but the jets guess who their head coach is oh no bill went there bill parcells is there bill parcells said about i think it's week 11 i think he waits to sign him till yeah parcells says i gotta have this little rapist he's my guy we're six and five right now we're five and six we needed somebody that can punt return. This is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:26 He's like, it's barely cleared up, this case. And he's like, I'll take him. It's fine. This is 99? Don't care. 98. 98. The 98 season. It's unreal. I mean, like, Bill Parcells doesn't give a shit. Doesn't care. He doesn't care. He would have got Bruno DeSauza and signed him, too, if he was good. He didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Fed what to your who? I don't care. Sign him up. Can you run? For episode five, Bruno DeSouza. You can check that out. The horrors of Bruno DeSouza. He was a horrible person. Just listen to it because it's horrible.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Anyway, March 1999, Dave retires at this point. No one wants him. That's it. Basically, no one wants him. Plus,
Starting point is 00:44:01 he's a guy, he had a 4.340 time when he came out. He ran a 4.340 which is extremely fast, extremely quick, and he needs that quickness to stay alive in the NFL. So you lose a half a step at 5'7", 180, you're out. And that NFL is not today's NFL. No, they take your head off.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Back then, you could get laid the fuck out. If that quarterback hung one over the middle on a screen pass or some shit, it's over. They didn't have to wait for you to come down. No, no, no. They could hit you in the head. They could blast you right when your hands touched that ball.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Didn't matter. So yeah, he lasted that long. He retires, like I said, NFL's all-time punt return leader in yards. that's great and all.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah. So you'd think, okay, maybe he was just juiced up from playing. Yeah. Right? That happens.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Guys get real aggressive when they play. A little roid rage. Yeah, he's just really, you know. Comes out when you're fucking. Yeah, he's got to get it out. Comes out when you're naked and vulnerable. Exactly. Prosecutors at this point, they drop the rape charge on him for the Toronto thing.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Really? They drop the rape charge. This is what ends up happening. They drop the rape charge, but they proceed with the assault and theft charges. They say, yeah, you paintbrushed her. She went to the hospital. You stole her money. That's a legal transaction, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:13 This trial ends in a hung jury. Jesus. Hung jury. Yeah, that's why they dropped the rape charge like we were discussing before. But yeah, hung jury on this trial. They can't decide. Prosecutors declined to retry. They don't even want to retry it. So it's scot-free. Citing, quote, limited resources.
Starting point is 00:45:29 They said, we don't have money to dig with American football players raping hookers. Not on our radar. Go back to your own country. Yeah, well, she's a prostitute. You don't even live here. Fuck out of here. Get out of here. Yeah, that's basically what it is.
Starting point is 00:45:41 When asked why there's no retrial, the prosecutor, Calvin Barry, said, quote, there were some inconsistencies in the complainant's testimony. It wouldn't have been a clear-cut prosecution. And if you come to court with unclean hands, it's difficult. Some jurors go, quote, she's a big girl. She should have known what she was getting into. Jesus. You can't say that now, by the way. No. In 2016, a prosecutor could not say that. Absolutely not. At all. No. That's not allowed to be said. I don't think they could. Unclean hands? Yeah, you couldn't even say that about Kobe Bryant's accuser.
Starting point is 00:46:10 No, unclean hands is really some coded shitty language there. For she's a hooker. If you would have just said, you know, she's a hooker, some people aren't going to take her seriously. I would have respected that more. She should have known. He said that very shitty. That's part of the profession.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah, so he gets out of this. That's April 2000. That was a two-year thing because it kept getting delayed. So we come to 2001. Dave is in South Carolina now. He goes back home. He goes back home, not to live here. He's just hanging out at this point.
Starting point is 00:46:42 All right. He is arrested again for rape, assault, and kidnapping this time. Let's just hanging out at this point. All right. He is arrested, again, for rape, assault, and kidnapping this time. Let's add it. Let's up the ante a little bit for this little shit. He's accused of raping a 26-year-old girl
Starting point is 00:46:53 named Janine Loveland. Let's get into this story because this story is deep. There's a great article. It was on SB Nation, and it's just extremely detailed about Dave Mega, and a lot of this story i got out of that
Starting point is 00:47:06 because it was so detailed it was really anything they he they went so in depth with this it was crazy uh she was this girl let's get into janine first she was new to the area she worked in a jewelry store she just moved to charleston uh she went to a market street bar called Mitchell's this night on June 30, 2001 with a friend. They meet Dave and his friend at the bar. And they were like salsa dancing. And the friend, actually, Janine's friend was the one talking to Dave. She was talking to the friend. And they were just kind of talking back and forth.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And everybody was talking. At one point, Dave told the friend that he used to play in the NFL because she was a teacher. And so he said, yeah, I'd love to come down and talk to the kids or whatever. And that would be fun. And so they were like, oh, what a great guy. And they're all dancing. I'll come to talk to those kids because I don't talk to my own. I don't talk to my own, but other people's.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Shit, it's party time. So I'd make for you. So Megan begins buying drinks for the girls and all that shit. You know, he's trying to just get in with this group here. Loveland said she left her drink unattended while she danced and would come back and drink it. Bad idea. Suddenly she became unbalanced and dizzy. Yeesh.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Not good. No rose petals. No rose petals. No follow the way to my heart here. This is follow the way to my rape thing. Follow the way to your vag and it's through this GHB. It's not cool, man. Bartender cuts her off. Patrons said her speech was quote unintelligible so she's she's drugged she's drunk yeah um she's not a lightweight it's janine she's not uh she can handle her booze yeah we'll get into her past here she's a tiny girl but an experienced drinker she has had a hard life
Starting point is 00:48:41 she moved from pennsylvania to ocean Ocean City, Maryland when she was 18 and worked the carnival games at the shore oh god she left home at 18 to be a fucking carny she's been through some shit she's been fucked on some hay
Starting point is 00:48:53 before yeah she's running the tilt world while the bearded lady fucking diddled herself in the wash god she was a heroin and cocaine user
Starting point is 00:49:00 while she was on the shore here moved to Charleston to start over and try to get away from drugs, basically. And her people she was hanging out with. She's hanging out with carnies. She's like, I gotta get away from these fucking carnies. These people are crazy. Yeah, these people are carnival workers.
Starting point is 00:49:14 They're horrible people. It's a weird breed. I was going to say dying breed. No. They're like comics without talent. That would be amazing. They're like road comics with no talent, basically. They're like, if there was an open be amazing. They're like road comics with no talent, basically. They're like, if there was an open mic road circuit, that would be these guys. Just the craziest.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And they probably have worse jokes. Absolutely. I know a carny one time. Really? My friend, there was this carnival that came through. Yeah. It was a little like one of those parking lot carnivals. A little sidetrack here, guys.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And my friend who lived right there, who didn't have the best home life at all really invited this carny guy to stay at his house and like live in his basement and so the carnival left and he stayed and the guy we called him satanic bill because satanic bill found a house bill was like satanic anyway they end up doing acid one night and robbing a concession stand of a little league field and getting busted with like garbage bags full of candy and all this shit. You get the Laffy Taffy. And Satanic Bill was like 25 years old
Starting point is 00:50:11 and we were all like 16. And a bunch of my friends got probation and Satanic Bill had to go to prison for a year because he had a record of course because he's a fucking carny. And he sent letters to my friend saying he was going to kill him because he told on him for... He's amazing. And then he got out of jail. He's like, never mind. I'm not going to kill you. And he came and lived my friend saying he was going to kill him because he told on him. Wow. He's amazing.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And then he got out of jail. He's like, never mind. I'm not going to kill you. And he came and lived at his house again. Unreal, right? Okay. Sorry. That's a carny.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Holy shit. People, I don't know if other countries have carnivals that come through and have these weird traveling people. Keep the fuck away from them. Don't invite a carny into your house. But this girl, it's not her fault, we'll say. She started using drugs by the time she was 13. She was in rehab by 16. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:50:49 She was molested from the age of 5 to 10. Just a terrible life. Why not? Pack her that in, too. A terrible life, this poor girl. And it's about to get worse here.
Starting point is 00:50:57 It's about to get worse because she's encountered our pal Dave. And now she has GHB running through her veins in a bar and she can't talk and she's off balance.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Absolutely. She says that she had to have been drugged. She said, this is years later, they interviewed her and she said, to this day, quote, to this day I've never gone from slightly tipsy to completely falling down. She says at this point her memories became just flashes. That sounds like it. Those are all the symptoms, babe. That's the symptoms, babe. And also a dick coming at you, which is going to be a symptom she's got soon coming out.
Starting point is 00:51:28 She stumbles into a nearby, stumbles out of the bar, stumbles into like a doorway next door to the bar. Now, she had met an older couple a couple days before at this bar. And they were trying to help her. And they offered to get her a cab to go home. And she would not give them her address. She should have given them her address. That would have saved her life. Instead, Meggett comes out.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Oh, no. And starts kind of leading her down the block and kind of picks her up. Like, you know, if you're walking arm in arm next to someone, imagine if you just pick them up and their feet aren't on the ground like a Weekend at Bernie's thing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:00 That's what he did and just kind of carried her down, floated her down the street. Jesus. She tried to, like, push him off her, and he just cinched it up, and, like, of floated her down the street. She tried to push him off her and he just cinched it up and her feet were dragging on the ground type of thing. It was really bad. He told her
Starting point is 00:52:13 before they got to the car while he's carrying her, her quote was might as well make this an in their own words because Meggett doesn't talk either. He's not a talker, Dave. And he even refuses to make statements in courts. Not a talker. We'll use this as his in their own words because itat doesn't talk either he's not a talker no and he even refuses to make statements in courts not a talker a few words we'll use this as his in their own words because it's horrible quote time for you to pay up bitch oh my god that's what he said and uh she said he didn't say bitch in a mean way just matter of fact like time for you to pay up bitch like i don't know
Starting point is 00:52:42 like like the waiter came over and went, here you go, bitch. Here's your check. Thanks for coming in. Like, that's how she said it. Like, it was very like, no, no, no. Like, that was her name. Like, hey, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Come on, bitch. Janine, let's go. Hey, time for you to pay up, Janine. So after the bitch thing, she said, quote, her quote is, quote, that's when I realized, and pardon my French, but holy shit, this is about to go down. You don't have to say pardon your French if you're discussing a mirror and you're about to be raped.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Yeah. You can go ahead and say however you want to describe that. When a guy just told you time to pay up, bitch, I think... I think shit is warranted. Yeah, yeah. At least. Or anything, really. I think all bets are off, darling. You can say whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And she called it, quote, the wrong place, wrong time. No. That's anywhere around Dave Meggett if you have a vagina. That's period. How about Dave was in the wrong place at the wrong place, wrong time. No. That's anywhere around Dave Meggett if you have a vagina. That's period. How about Dave was in the wrong place at the wrong time? Anywhere around any female
Starting point is 00:53:30 is the wrong place for this asshole. He takes her over down the street. It was like, you know, down the block he carried her. Stuffed her in with Porsche.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Wow. Stuffed her in the front seat of the Porsche. He's like taking her. He's about to drive. Yeah, taking her with me. That's all.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Drives to an unknown location to her. She doesn't know where she's going. He's like taking her. He's about to drive. Yeah, I'm taking her with me. That's all. Drives to an unknown location to her. She doesn't know where she's going. She's out of it. No memories, flashes. Takes her out of the car. She doesn't know where she is at this point, but she remembers getting her, and this is very important, guys,
Starting point is 00:53:58 getting her left arm pinned behind her back with his left arm. So he gets on top of her. No, he gets on top of her. She's on her arm so he gets on top of her no he gets on top of her she's on her back he's on top of her he takes his left arm grabs her left arm and pulls it so that way he's got a lot of leverage because he's coming from the other side oh i got you can't get out of it and that's when he and then he rapes the girl like that so he says uh she doesn't know what where she was she just remembers seeing wood beams in the ceiling. She was like, am I at a gazebo? What the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Like, she's this girl. There's a horrible, horrible description of this whole thing. So remember the pinning. It's like it's going to be the dish towel of this episode. He pulls it underneath her back? Yes, under her back from the other side. Ouch. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, that's... That's an uncomfortable fuck. That's a position where if you try to move, you're going to yank your shoulder out of it. Yeah, you're not going anywhere. He's got you locked. Yeah. And he's strong, too. Yeah. And position where if you try to move, you're going to yank your shoulder out of it. Yeah. You're not going anywhere. He's got you locked. Yeah. And he's strong, too.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Yeah. And she's tiny. This girl is tiny. That's the other thing. Very small girl. So when he finishes, he picks her back up, puts her back in the Porsche. Like she's luggage now at this point. Just pick your bag up and throw it in there.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Take my toiletry bag with me. Unreal. She reaches out. He goes to slam the door. She reaches out to stop the door from closing and catches her hand in the door too now.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Oh my God. This causes permanent nerve damage and she still has her hand all fucked up. Yeah. He slammed her hand
Starting point is 00:55:14 in the fucking door. In the fucking door. I don't know if he saw her hand. I don't think he cared either way. He drove. Was her hand still in the door?
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yes. That's the other thing. Oh my God. She's saying she's only got her left hand at this point and her right hand is killing her obviously yeah
Starting point is 00:55:29 and she's trying to find the door locks because at this point she said that she thought she was going to die she thought she's taking me to kill me I gotta get out of here
Starting point is 00:55:36 I gotta escape and her life the way it's been she's got a survival mechanism to her she's got a fight or flight thing exactly I gotta get out of here
Starting point is 00:55:43 this is bad shit this is already a bad situation. If only that would have kicked in when he met her. Right. When he said, hi, I'm Dave Maggett. But he's a master fucking predator, man. He is a predator. And he knows this is the other thing. Every woman he goes after,
Starting point is 00:55:58 it's not, he doesn't picture, it's not just some school teacher, like Tom Payne was just picking people off the street. Some school teacher was just a nice lady. They're all people with problems. These predators have a sixth sense, and they can sense victims. They can sense a just destroyed person. They know it.
Starting point is 00:56:15 They can sense a victim. It's unreal. I don't know what psychological horrible thing in the human brain can do that, but some people have it, and he apparently does. So she waits for a red light, thing in the human brain can do that but these some people have it and he apparently does so she waits for a red light and she figured out that the door locks in the porsche are in the center console so she reached over unlocks the door with her left hand then reaches across to get the door wow opens the door this is the car hasn't stopped yet they're approaching a red light
Starting point is 00:56:40 so she said she had taken gymnastics as a kid and remembered to tuck and roll red light so she said she had taken gymnastics as a kid and remembered to tuck and roll wow she tucks and roll pops up to her feet and sees two guys that she describes as quote transient types perfect she's gonna get saved by bums yeah a guy named kenneth brown and sylvester magwood who sound like hobos yeah they sound like railway riders like they have bindles right beans in it magwood jesus wood and kenneth brown uh brown claims at this point he has had between 12 and 15 beers this evening yeah so they're just a couple old winos running around and he's not even drunk yet no and this is the the crazy part is like she runs and she pops out of this porsche there's a goddamn porsche and this is a shit neighborhood too that they end up in she runs up up to them screaming, quote, help me, I've just been fucked
Starting point is 00:57:25 and I didn't ask for it. Please say you're not going to hurt me. Am I safe? Please say I'm safe. So she's just freaking out, logging up to anyone who is there
Starting point is 00:57:34 and she's like still out of it too. She said she's just trying to put words together. She's been fucked and I didn't ask for it. Please help me. I feel horrible for this girl.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I can't feel my right hand. And my right hand is destroyed. So, these are two old winos that just saw a white girl leap out of a moving porsche in a black neighborhood they were like what the fuck like literally they were like you know like in like an old like uh like an old sitcom yeah like when they there'd be like a hobo in an alley and like he'd see something crazy like and be witched like she'd disappear and he'd be like a hobo in an alley, and like he'd see something crazy, like he'd be witched, like she'd disappear, and he'd like look at the bottle,
Starting point is 00:58:07 and rub his eyes, and then throw the bottle down. And then take another swig. Yeah, throw the bottle down, like holy shit, that's what's happening here. And they're like, no, this isn't a white man
Starting point is 00:58:13 jumping out of a Porsche. So Meggett yells, get back in the car from in there, and then speeds off after like two seconds. Yeesh. The hobos call 911. I like how they call them tramps in the UK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The tramps call 911. The hobos call 911. I like how they call them tramps in the UK.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The tramps call 911. The tramps call 911. She goes to the hospital, gets the Dave Meggett special, the rape kit, the morning after pill, the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:58:34 It's the Meggett. They go, the Meggett? Okay, she's in for a Meggett. You've had a suck and fuck? We're going to give you another combo. She's in for the Meggett, guys.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Come on. We have the Meggett room. It's set aside. It's in the Meggett wing. The Meg on. Let her in. We have the maggot room. It's set aside. It's in the maggot wing. The maggot wing. You can be with the others. Watch out for the kids running around. There's a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Grab a cot with the others. Grab a cot with the others. Now, she says she feels pressured by the cops. And here's also, this is not a person who probably likes dealing with cops. Yeah, no. This is a runaway, a drug addict since 13. They haven't saved her her entire life. Why are they going to save her now? Coc Yeah, no. This is a runaway, a drug addict since 13. They haven't saved her her entire life. Why are they going to save her now?
Starting point is 00:59:06 Cocaine, heroin. She's probably not a girl who's like, oh, the cops will help me. Right. Everything's going to be fine. So she feels pressured by the cops and accidentally gives
Starting point is 00:59:15 a description of Dave's friend that she talked to at first. Oh, fuck. Because she said she's still kind of in and out of it. She's still fuzzy, yeah. She says about this with the cops,
Starting point is 00:59:25 she says, quote, you're asked so much stuff and you're grasping at everything and you're in a state of shock and I'm trying to give them what I knew at the time, which is understandable, honestly. Several other people, though, luckily identified Megget
Starting point is 00:59:36 because they went back to the bar, the bouncer, the patrons, everybody identified Megget. The guy with that ring. They said, yeah, never mind her description. She's on drugs, basically. The guy with that giant ring. The, yeah, never mind her description. She's on drugs basically. It's the guy with that giant ring. The giant shiny ring with the giants
Starting point is 00:59:48 on it. With the word giants down the side of it. So Loveland gets home from the hospital and sees on TV that Megat's arrested. They show it. It's a big local story. It's on the news. There's his picture. And she says, holy shit, that's him. That's the guy. There he is.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So she's happy about that, obviously. But she also hears who he is and that he's famous and that he's had other things before and they got dismissed and that shit gets pushed under the rug and he's got lawyers. And she says, quote, why can't anything be normal in my life? Couldn't I have just been raped by an average person? This poor fucking girl, man. She's like, I can't catch a break.
Starting point is 01:00:26 At first, I get raped. I get to the cops and try to get some sort of justice. And it happens to be a guy that nobody gets justice from. He's a Teflon rapist. The Teflon Dong is what you should call this guy. Not the Teflon Don. The Teflon Don is what they called John Guy. He's the Teflon Dong.
Starting point is 01:00:45 This guy. It slides right off. This dick is Teflon Don is what they called John Guy. He's the Teflon Dong. This guy. It slides right off. This dick is Teflon. So, I mean, I feel so bad for this girl. She's had the worst life since age five and probably before. All these horrible things and now she's like she doesn't even ask to not be raped. She's like, I just need to be raped by somebody normal that can be prosecuted. You're going to hurt me?
Starting point is 01:01:01 At least just make it somebody that can get caught. South Carolina law states that, this is ridiculous, by the way, this law. This is probably the stupidest fucking law I've ever heard in my life. South Carolina law states that an inebriated victim only allows for third degree sexual assault in 10 years. Without the drugging, it could be first degree in 30 years.
Starting point is 01:01:24 But if you drug a girl then it's a different crime because then you're just like raping an unconscious girl which is a different that's fucked up they parse that so basically if you're in south carolina and you want to rape somebody if you drug them it's 20 less years make sure to drug them basically that's what you're telling everybody hey at least cosby them and and it's not as big of a deal it's fucking ridiculous the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That's even more just vicious. That might be the dumbest law in the history of laws that I've ever heard.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It's ridiculous. That's like saying if you murder somebody, you got to punch them up first. You got to beat the shit out of them. You got to make sure to dismember the body. Right. It's only this much. It's like, no, that would be post. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I'm as bad as Analogies tonight. And Analogies tonight is our other girl. You got to knock the shit out of them and then shoot them. You can as bad as Analogies Tonight and Analogies Tonight is our other girl. You gotta knock the shit out of them and then shoot them. You can't just shoot them. No. And then we'll give you
Starting point is 01:02:09 20 less years. Absolutely. What the fuck? It's insanity, man. So, the misidentification and the lack of the, her original misidentification
Starting point is 01:02:17 turns out to be a big deal, of course, because he hires a great defense attorney who we'll get into in a second here. Lack of clear memory on her part also makes it difficult because she's saying i remember this then that then flashes and they're like that
Starting point is 01:02:30 porsche is a big detail though it's a big detail that's a big deal because that's a goddamn car he's got an ace in the hole here because two weeks later out of nowhere everybody starts changing their stories oh no all these plays he's gotten to everybody and it's obvious because they're they're complete opposite statements gotten to everybody. And it's obvious because they're complete opposite statements of their original statements. Wow. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Kenneth Brown, hobo number one, 12 to 15 beers here. Oh, he got another 12 to 15 on Mr. Meggett. Yep. Changes his story from his original
Starting point is 01:02:57 to a completely new version. His new account says that the car, this is from the police report, the car came to a stop and she just got out. Quote, the girl never complained that she had been assaulted in any way. Her dress was not torn or even messed up.
Starting point is 01:03:11 She never complained that the driver of the Porsche raped her or physically forced her to do anything. There was nothing unusual about her appearance. I would say I thought she was drinking, but I certainly didn't think she was intoxicated. That's his new statement now. Meanwhile, she can't even think straight in the police station, but she wasn't drunk then.
Starting point is 01:03:31 No, she can't think straight. They saw her stumbling. The couple said, can we get you a cab? Because you're literally falling into the streets here. The bar doorman changed his story, too. At 2.30 in the morning, the night that all this happened, he said that it looked like he was kind of carrying her off which he took as like a chivalrous thing like oh i'll take her home you know what i mean like whatever he didn't think dave meggett's gonna go i assumed there was
Starting point is 01:03:55 some rose petals leading to an upstairs bedroom i said he's got a lot of pun return yardage i'm gonna let him handle this it's okay um. So two weeks later, he changes his story too. Both these sound so contrived. These sound like the defense attorney wrote them. Yeah. Like, this is what we need you to say. Yeah. Say it exactly this word for word.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Her dress wasn't torn in any way. I thought maybe she had had some drinks, but I certainly didn't think she was intoxicated. Like, fuck, what hobo talks like that? What hobo knows the word certainly? I certainly fucking you gotta be kidding me so uh this guy the doorman here says quote they held hands when they walked by me nothing happened that seemed inappropriate or out of the ordinary mr meggett did not did not grab or hold her in any improper way mr meggett appeared to be sober, friendly, and courteous.
Starting point is 01:04:46 He did not do anything to raise concern or suspicion. Wow. So, yeah. That's terrible. They just completely... What a dick. Unreal, right? I don't know if they paid these people off or... But why change to that story? That's fucking insanity. Why not just change to, you know, I don't really
Starting point is 01:05:02 remember. It seemed fine. I don't know. Listen, it's been a month. That's the best possible thing that they could. He did not do anything to raise concern or suspicion. Like, it's no question. Concern or suspicion. That is somebody wrote that for you, Mr. Dorman. Hobos and bouncers are talking like legal scholars now.
Starting point is 01:05:24 You've got to be kidding me. Meggett said his version of it was, and this is just pathetic. This is the, he's a college graduate. Right. He's been around the world. Yeah. He could come up with something better than this. This is sad.
Starting point is 01:05:38 He said he was driving Loveland home in his Porsche, and while he was shifting gears, she said, quote, I like how you shift your gears I'd like to see your gear shift no woman has ever said that I'd like to see your other gear shift no woman has ever said that shit outside of like a 70's porno this is why Dave doesn't talk
Starting point is 01:05:57 exactly this is the shit that's a horrible thing to say he says this and he breaks down and says the Bible gave him a moral epiphany before he's raping people. So then he said they had sex in the car because she wanted to see his other gear shift. Ridiculous. You didn't fuck her in a Porsche, sir. No way you had sex in a Porsche.
Starting point is 01:06:18 She's tiny so it's possible. It's not possible. You're a grown adult. If you're more than eight, you can't have sex in a Porsche. It was uncomfortable either way. That sounded horrible. Move on. He said that she was a little drunk, but, quote, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Jesus. Good to go. In other words, legal. She was a spinner. Legal clarification, quote, good to go. Good to go. That's it right there. Says he pulled over to get directions from the hobos here.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Because they know where they're going. They know where they're going. They know all the streets. Absolutely. He doesn doesn't what does he know in his porsche and she says she he says she just jumped out and started screaming out of nowhere no way she was fine they just had sex everything was fine she just started screaming bloody murder i like how his story even contradicts with the new hobo story yeah the hobo said she got out and was just like hello gentlemen hello fellas hello Hello, fellas. Hello, folks. How's your evening? Might I ask you, are there any good restaurants in this town? I'm looking for maybe a...
Starting point is 01:07:09 Lovely weather at 2 a.m. Lovely weather. I'm looking for maybe some tapas, something like that. No, she got out and started screaming. You know where I can get some falafel? Now, I'd make for you. What? You come in. Swarma, here.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Lamb, chicken, beef. What? What do you want? What do you want? Hilarious. So then they'll come with. Refill extra. You refill extra.
Starting point is 01:07:36 So Meggett retains a defense attorney named Bart Daniel, who is a former U.S. attorney appointed by the first George Bush. So, I mean, he's got, like, top of the line. This is ridiculous. She figured that if he got, at this point, she's like, what the fuck here?
Starting point is 01:07:51 She figures that if he got away with it before, he's just going to get away with it again, especially with her, because nobody's ever had any consequences for anything they've done to her. And nothing has gone right in her life up to now. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And it continues to not. Her attorneys are discouraging her to push ahead, too. Wow. Yeah. She doesn't press criminal charges. The police dropped the case. So now the police dropped the case now. Look, we're out.
Starting point is 01:08:14 You guys do your thing civil. We're out. There is a civil suit. The suit settles for now. This whole time, the attorneys are telling her, like, you know, hey, they're going to say bad things about you. You don't want to go up there. And they're discouraging her. She ends up settling for less than a hundred thousand dollars for this incident which is pretty low ball i think here the attorney listen to what
Starting point is 01:08:33 her attorney says to her whoever this attorney is should be disbarred and have his balls ripped off i hope it was a man if a woman said this she's a fucking asshole even worse but the attorney tells her quote at least you can buy some nice new outfits. Yeesh. That is not what you say to somebody that's had that. No, take your rate money and go shopping. Yeah. Go on a shopping spree. So, Meggett doesn't matter. You've got permanent nerve damage in your
Starting point is 01:08:55 hand, but hey, you can get a nice dress. Nice new dress. So, let me ask you something. Let's go over Dave Meggett's patterns at this point. What are his patterns? A, he's a good football player that's a pattern yeah he is very physically forceful sexually with women as a pattern another pattern i can think of is he doesn't like to pay shit right not being on paying for stuff especially owning up and paying your responsibilities is not his thing so he fails to the part he doesn't pay his court fees part of
Starting point is 01:09:26 the settlement also was he needed to undergo counseling for that shit does not undergo counseling does not pay fees right so doesn't take responsibility no so this is like a responsibility is his biggest problem that's his huge problem with everything bills football's the only thing he ever paying together right that's it on the field field, he's great. He's like Eddie Johnson. If you kept him in the building all the time, he'd be fine. But don't fucking let him out. Once you let the doors out, holy shit, he's jumping out of windows. Responsibly, it's not his thing.
Starting point is 01:09:53 He's jumping out of windows with pimp shooting at him like Eddie Johnson. It's pathetic. So anyway, at this point, that's a default now. So now she's awarded $1.5 million. Nice. Now she gets $1.5 million. But he's dead fucking broke from child support. Yeah, he's not getting it anyway.
Starting point is 01:10:07 He's got nothing. They end up seizing his house and his assets. Time to pay up, bitch. Because he's got time to pay up, bitch. Exactly. No shawarma for you. No. So now, because also, too, there's other women who have their hands in his pockets because
Starting point is 01:10:21 he owes them countless thousands in child support. Yep. After everything, attorney fees, everything, you know how much cash she gets? $80,000.
Starting point is 01:10:30 That's what she walks out of. Not even the original fee. Nope. $80,000. That's a bummer. She ends up spending it on drugs and just general
Starting point is 01:10:38 living expenses. This girl. Quits her job for the next four years, basically. Yeah, her life's ruined. Until the money's completely gone. And she said the money made her miserable
Starting point is 01:10:47 and she wanted to get rid of it every time she spent a dime of it she thought about that rape she said that's exactly what she said she said he was still in my life
Starting point is 01:10:55 even though he wasn't there and at one point too this was like all going on she rode up to a red light and he came next to her in his car he didn't notice her
Starting point is 01:11:03 he didn't notice her because she said she froze. Because she was driving a new car. She bought a new truck with the 80,000 too and probably some nice new outfits.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Dark fucking tinted windows. Yeah, some dark tinted windows, nice new outfits. But she saw him. She saw him and she said she freaked out obviously and pulled up and then he drove away
Starting point is 01:11:19 and that was that. So yeah, this poor girl. She said she'd never... Her life's ruined. Yeah. Forever. The fact that she did not follow through on the suit she says later on about his future quote i always felt
Starting point is 01:11:31 somewhat responsible if they would have followed through in 2001 maybe everything else wouldn't have happened yeah and we'll find out what everything else is here because this is not dave's final hurrah here at all. But his life already is coming crashing. The dominoes have been hit between the defaults on paying her, between the child support, between football career's over. He's done. He has no financial gain at this point.
Starting point is 01:11:57 He's got no name to sell either. He's got nothing. He can't go. Nobody wants to talk to him. He's raping people. So at this point, he needs to look in the mirror and say, you, sir, need to knock this shit off.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah, you need to get your shit together, mister. Because we've got to get this together before we fucking go off the rails. You would think he would do that. But that conversation didn't happen. Yeah, no. And if it did, it's one of those fleeting ones where he was like just. Where he woke up in the morning and was like, man, Dave, you crazy. Dave, you know what?
Starting point is 01:12:22 I like what you do. You know what, Dave? Dave, you're a good man. Dave, you got what? I like what you do. You know what, Dave? Dave, you're a good man. Dave, you got a nice smile. You deserve some shawarma. You deserve some shawarma. Get the lamb, Dave. You deserve the lamb.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Get the lamb one. Holy shit. Speaking of mill nut shawarma. Tim Megan's shit life is so much fun. It's getting shittier. It's about to get way shittier here. Early 2000s, he opens up a Subway franchise restaurant
Starting point is 01:12:46 which fails and closes he's the only man ever to fail a Subway franchise has anyone ever seen an empty Subway no
Starting point is 01:12:53 they put them up and people line up and get their shit sandwiches and go back to work period they get their imitation crab
Starting point is 01:12:59 and their bullshit turkey and hope that they lose a couple of pounds they toast it now it's good no it's not good they'll put the cheese on. They toast it now. It's good. No, it's not good. They'll put the cheese on it. They toast it and melt it. It's pretty good. He's such a fucking idiot he can't get a fucking Subway franchise to go.
Starting point is 01:13:15 It's marketed by itself. It's a giant sandwich for $5. Everybody loves them. That's what fucking housewives that couldn't cook dinner, they didn't have time because these fucking kids and their homework, they'd be like, fuck it, we'll go to Subway and get a bullshit sandwich. No, well. Not at his. Not Dave's, apparently. He's sitting there looking out the window going, where is everybody?
Starting point is 01:13:36 Where is everybody? Damn. Where's that goddamn Jared? Dave takes a job as an assistant football coach at American International College in Springfield, Massachusetts. He was broke from child support at this point. He just needs a job. He's fucked.
Starting point is 01:13:52 And rape payments. And this is his downfall here of everything. Davin, his kid here, has a little insight into this. He said, quote, It went from me spending summers in a big house with a pool with three cars living the dream to living in a townhouse. Then it was a one-story
Starting point is 01:14:09 two-bedroom trailer house with one car that's not even his and him not having enough money to even send me home. So that's the slide we're going on.
Starting point is 01:14:18 This is, we can see this. From a big house to a little trailer. To a townhouse to a trailer not even having his own car. To somebody else's vehicle. What a fucking mess. This trailer not even having his own car. Somebody else's vehicle.
Starting point is 01:14:25 What a fucking mess. This is what rape gets to you guys. Yeah. Just so you know. Stop raping. Don't be an asshole. We say this every episode where there's rape. Stop your fucking raping all the time.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Just knock it off. Enough of it. Jesus Christ. It's never accepted. No. No one is okay with it. Nobody. No one.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I'm not okay with it. I'm not okay. Yeah. You rape somebody, this fucking crime and sport stops. It's it. It's over. It's it. Yeah, no, I couldn't do that. I can't be talking. And I You rape somebody, this fucking crime and sport stops. It's it. It's over. It's it. Yeah, no, I couldn't do that.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And I hope it's the same for me. It is. It is. If you rape anybody, I'll stop. It's over. I can't, Jimmy. How could I?
Starting point is 01:14:53 They'd be like, oh yeah, you with your rapist partner. I'd be done. So, you and your rapist buddy there. So, Meggett, in September 17th of 2004, he's jailed in Dedham, Massachusetts for non-payment of child support. Shocker. He's jailed in Dedham, Massachusetts for non-payment of child support.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Shocker. He's being held until he can come up with $191,600 in back child support. Which he never fucking comes up with. Somehow he gets out of this shit. I don't know. I'm sure the judge said, well, you make $18,000 a year. You can't even get a Subway franchise
Starting point is 01:15:22 off the ground. Let's reduce this. Because clearly you can't pay this shit. I'll reduce it for a sweet onion teriyaki. Yeah. That's a sweet onion teriyaki. And that's what a lot of these football players, that's their deal, is like they have these heavy child support payments while they're playing
Starting point is 01:15:38 because it's based on their income and then they're not playing anymore. And then it's like, uh-oh. And then they're still shelling out $100,000 a month in child support. Yeah. You can't do that. So, 2005,
Starting point is 01:15:48 Dave is in dire straits. He puts up his Super Bowl ring on eBay. Awesome. That is the ultimate sign of complete life failure. Destruction.
Starting point is 01:15:57 That is what, as we'll say with Sly Williams, that is his toilet, his life toilet is clogged at this point. It's fucked. For 40,000 bucks. Ooh. And he needs to pay off debts. He's this point. It's fucked. For $40,000.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And he needs to pay off debts. He's just screwed. He's living with his girlfriend. Is it worth $40,000? I would think. You think so? The Giants one, yeah. But it was the first one, right?
Starting point is 01:16:17 It was the 90 one. So it was the second one for the Giants. Okay. But it's the Giants. There's a weird thing back there, man. There's a lot of people. I'm just trying to think how many diamonds are on it to make it worth a lot. It's more the thing. There's a weird thing back there, man. There's a lot of people. I'm just trying to think how many diamonds are on it to make it worth a lot.
Starting point is 01:16:31 It's more the thing, I think, when you have the Giants Super Bowl ring. But they appraise them based on the weight of it, too. True. I think this is all based on what it is, though. I'd like to see the ring still. I'd like to see. I want to know if it's worth it. The Maras are pretty classy. I bet it's kind of plain but has nice diamonds in it.
Starting point is 01:16:43 And it's New York. Yeah, you have to be real nice. So at this point, he's living with his girlfriend in Greenville, North Carolina. He gets a job as the recreation director in a nearby town called Robersonville, North Carolina. He makes $27,000 a year doing this. It's just raw. In 2003? In 2005. Five. It's just raw. In 2003? In 2005.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Five. Oh, my God. Robersonville is described here, this is a great quote, as, quote, a podunk 2,000-person town that people come to when they're at a last resort. Hilarious. Jesus Christ, that sounds miserable. That sounds miserable. It's basically a...
Starting point is 01:17:21 It's a rehab city for, like, people that are just down on their luck, and they're like, I've got to get it back together. I'm going to Greenville. Is it Greenville? Greenville, North Carolina. So this is Robersonville. Yeah, Robersonville. Robersonville.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Robersonville. Robersonville. Shithole North Carolina. So most of his paycheck is going to child support. He's getting nothing because it's all garnished. So he takes a second job at night at a 24-hour gas station. Bam. So most of his paychecks go into child support. He's getting nothing because it's all garnished. So he takes a second job at night at a 24-hour gas station. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Pro bowler. You used to be Dave Maggot. Now you go up and you go, can I get 20 on pump two at two in the morning? And you see David on a little name tag. And you're like, that can't, no. No way. No. I mean, he's short, but I didn't think Dave was that short. He'd go in the bathroom and splash water on your face. Did I really
Starting point is 01:18:08 say that? Let me try to tackle him and make sure. I'm going to throw a football at him. The town police chief, Darryl Knox, did a background check on Dave and didn't think he'd get hired because he saw his background. He said he told the town manager of his record, like, I don't think we can hire this guy.
Starting point is 01:18:24 He's, you know, raping everybody. They have a town manager of his record, like, I don't think we can hire this guy. He's, you know... Told the town manager? Everybody. They have a town manager who does all the hiring. I don't even think that... That's like the mayor. I don't know what the fuck it is down there. So the town manager didn't care. He said he thought it would be good for the community.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Well, it's a black community. You need a graveyard employee, right? Just hire him. Just hire him. Well, apparently this is for a recreation director here. And also, this is a black, poor community. The town manager is like, he's black, he came up hard, and he's kind of shithole areas.
Starting point is 01:18:50 He made it to the NFL. This could be good for us here. He used to have a ring. He used to have a ring. I don't know. Now he's got 40 grand that went to his kids. Chief Knox here said about his tenure there, Dave's tenure, to be honest, he did a great job.
Starting point is 01:19:04 As far as organizing trips, having kids and parents show up, he was the best. We have poor children, broken homes, but he could work the neighborhood and talk to the parents. So, I mean, Dave, outside of raping, is a fantastic human being. But, good God, the town library called him, quote,
Starting point is 01:19:19 very mannerly. Hilarious. He opens doors and shit. Yeah, I love that I can find a quote from the Robersonville, North Carolina town librarian. That's amazing. That's awesome. Now, 2005, 2006, early 2006,
Starting point is 01:19:37 his girlfriend, who he moved there with, leaves him for another man at this point. Ouch. Not cool. That stings. That's going to sting Dave, and Dave is not taking that shit. That ain't going away.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Because on September 2nd, 2006, he is charged with second degree rape of his ex-girlfriend in Greenville, South Carolina. Or North Carolina, sorry. He raped her for leaving? The Pitt County Sheriff, Sheriff's Detective P.E. Moore
Starting point is 01:20:04 said, quote, they were having some problems he wanted to get back with her and she didn't he came over to see her and things went bad that is i would say so this is an understatement let me tell you why because let's get into what happened here oh uh megget walks into his ex-girlfriend's home this was two weeks earlier in august walks into her home that they that used to be his home, marches right in uninvited, begins questioning her about her plans for the evening. Where are you going? Where are you going?
Starting point is 01:20:31 When he starts interrogating her, she told him she was seeing her new boyfriend and he responded by telling her he had his gun in the car. Yeah. She says at that point he shoved her down. Yep. Megget did the left arm trick again. Same description, exactly. Left arm underneath her, pulled the left arm, did the same thing.
Starting point is 01:20:50 It's his fucking dish towel. See Tom Payne. That's his finishing move. It's his finishing move, exactly. He rapes her. After he was done, the phone rings, her phone. He answers it. There's silence on the other line.
Starting point is 01:21:04 So he assumed it's the boyfriend on the other line so he assumed it's the boyfriend and said quote here's what I'll do in their own words again here in their own words quote
Starting point is 01:21:10 whoever this is I'm gonna kill you that's his quote so I mean he's just going nuts man a few words but they are fucking incriminating words
Starting point is 01:21:18 he bursts in rapes the girl and starts telling boyfriends are gonna kill him he's like I'm taking back over I don't give a fuck like
Starting point is 01:21:24 that's insane this is my house that's insane that's crazy talk this is insane rapes the girl, and starts telling him, boyfriends are going to kill him. He's like, I'm taking back over. I don't give a fuck. That's insane. This is my house. That's insane. That's crazy talk. This is insane. But then, and this is a definite in their own words here, he turned to the victim and said,
Starting point is 01:21:34 quote, in their own words, quote, I don't know if OJ did it, but I understand how he felt. Unquote. Did the old Chris Rock thing. The old Chris Rock joke.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Then he headbutted her and left uh she went to the hospital for bruises so he's a chris rock fan yeah then so he's a apparently a chris rock man uh he goes to the hospital for she goes to the hospital for bruises uh the victim here is very upset that the police apparently have released intimate details of the case with the media not her name because she's a sex crime victim you can't release a name but everyone in town knows who she is absolutely because it's green world 10 green town they say and they and they say the victim is the mother of his child they all live there in a small town they know who the mother of his child is so it's it's clear here she left but she was confused about this thing this girl's messed up in the
Starting point is 01:22:26 head she she was uh upset she leaves 20 in his in his fund in jail for him at one point like what the fuck are you doing she said she was hesitant to press charges due to being told that the case would be difficult to prosecute because she was his ex yeah basically they said it's going to be he said she said yeah And that's what they tell every one of these girls. It's going to be he said, he's not denying the sex.
Starting point is 01:22:48 He's saying it's consensual. You guys have had a lot of sex before. It's going to be he said, she said. Do you want to get drugged through the mud? Because then it's going
Starting point is 01:22:54 to be a battle of who's more believable, whose character is better. Now go throw 20 on his cantina so he can get some Flamin' Hot Cheetos. Yeah, exactly. Which I would have said
Starting point is 01:23:01 I'll take my chances because he's got all raped down the line. He's got raped taller than him. He's been charged my chances because he's got all raped down the line. How many times has he been charged? Yeah, he's got a rap sheet longer than his height, you know. So Meggett claims the sex was rough but consensual. The charges are eventually reduced to misdemeanor sexual battery. No prison time is given, but Meggett is required to register as a sex offender, which he does not, of course, because he's an asshole,
Starting point is 01:23:25 which he'll have a warrant for that later. Because he skips that responsibility. Skips it completely, because that's something he has to do. He's just like, that's not how I see myself, I think. I think he's like, I'm a sex offender. Sex offender. That doesn't fit Dave Meggett's image. When I look in the mirror and I'm talking to myself,
Starting point is 01:23:42 When I look into that gas station mirror, I say, Dave, you're all right. That gas station mirror is 2 a.m. and I lock the door and put the little sign up that says be back in five minutes. I look in the mirror and I go. So I got to go give myself a pep talk in the bathroom. Yeah, every night I do that. 2.45. I look through that gang etched mirror.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Yeah, with swastikas carved in it. It says little Snoopy was here. Little Snoopy. So he gets two years probation also. The victim said she had to live in her car out of fear of being in her house because she was afraid Dave Meggett would burst through the door.
Starting point is 01:24:15 He's just ruining women's lives. Ruining them all. Everywhere. She couldn't take care of her kid anymore. Had to give the kid to her parents to take care of because she's living in a fucking car. She's a disaster. It's horrible. So now dave is allowed i guess he somehow gets permission with his probation to move to south carolina he's living in somerville and hanging
Starting point is 01:24:35 out where hometown north charleston south carolina every time full fucking circle once they get home it's like oh boy here we go we go. Don't go home. Athletes, rules. Silver-haired, middle-aged white men, keep them close. Drink your milk. Drink your milk. What's the other one?
Starting point is 01:24:56 No minors in your fucking kill squad. No minors in your kill squad. That's the one I was looking for. I wanted the kill squad. No minors in your kill squad. Don't move back home. No. Stay where you are. When your life is falling apart,
Starting point is 01:25:10 go to a fucking small town in Oklahoma or somewhere far away from your home and start building your shit back slowly. Yes, he tried in North Carolina. But it didn't work. It didn't work out. He's beating the shit out of his baby mama. And he has a hard time getting a job
Starting point is 01:25:24 due to his record, which is why he moves back there, because his brother James, who lives there, sets him up with a bunch of manual labor jobs. Good. That's where he's at at this point. He's digging ditches. Make little rocks out of big rocks.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Dave's a hard worker. He goes out, he works. That's one thing about Dave, too. He's not like, hey, I'm too much to work. He's like, I've got a job at a gas station. I don't know. I'll do it in a second. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:25:43 I've got to get pussy. That's it. As long as there's women at the end of this, I'll gas station. I don't know. Fuck, I don't care. I've got to get pussy. That's it. As long as there's women at the end of this, I'll get that. I'll slime Newports. I don't care. Now, 2007,
Starting point is 01:25:49 he meets a 17-year-old girl. What? Guess what? She's got drug and personal problems. She's got all sorts of drug problems. She's, quote,
Starting point is 01:25:59 known to law enforcement at 17. Girl, that's a bad sign. He would help her out he'd give her a few bucks here and there he'd buy her a meal basically was kind of
Starting point is 01:26:08 just grooming her we'll say getting her into a position of vulnerability people would go isn't that nice he's helping that girl out he's grooming her
Starting point is 01:26:15 like he does with everybody told her his name was Michael so this is a thing he does when they're young because the last girl was 20 plus if she googles Dave Meggett she might find out that he's fucked a few people
Starting point is 01:26:25 against their will. They talk about that a lot. Once the internet starts coming around, that's when he starts saying, I'm Mike. He doesn't want anybody to know shit. One morning, he invites her to breakfast. He said he needed to stop at his sister's house first,
Starting point is 01:26:37 invites her in to show her the house. He's like, I'm coming in anyway. Come here. Takes her into a pink bedroom, and guess what he does, Jimmy? I feel like there's a left hand involved left hand pins her down
Starting point is 01:26:48 hand behind the back exact same thing this is what I mean like you could go well maybe some of these girls are just trying to get money no he's got a signature
Starting point is 01:26:55 and he fucking uses it every time he should be forget it it's like the Boston Strangler with the fucking pantyhose around the neck yeah I'd like to rip
Starting point is 01:27:02 his little balls off at this point I'm so mad she tried to say no, no, but he covered her mouth with his free hand. Do you know why he covered her mouth? Do you know why it was so important that she be quiet? No.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Because his fucking sister was home and sleeping in the same house. So he had to quietly rape her. What? Doesn't use a condom. Gets her back in the car. Silently drives her back to her house, drops her off like nothing happened, didn't say shit to her.
Starting point is 01:27:28 She called police. Good for her. Dave Meggett uses the same bail bondsman he used the last time. He's like, hey, you remember me from 2001? Get some other crazy bitch that it was time to pay up. Now two weeks later, a few weeks later, the victim says another man assaulted her and then recants that.
Starting point is 01:27:44 So now she's... Oh, no! Of course. He's and then recants that. So now she's credibility, of course. He's the luckiest man alive. He really is. He's so lucky. Prosecutor Chad Simpson said, quote, they would have portrayed her as someone who's always crying rape, which would have destroyed us, considering the victim's credibility is the whole case.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Which, as shitty as that sounds, it's actually true. Right. So, I mean, this whole thing, he's the luck right so i mean this whole thing he's the luckiest son of a bitch but he's a scumbag and everybody knows yeah he's ruined how many lives now countless countless lives nine kids nine kids those women women he's raping and the thing is too there's this article i read there's statistics basically eight percent of rapes get reported yeah is what it is and like three percent% of rapes result in any jail time at all. So basically
Starting point is 01:28:27 who knows how many goddamn women he was raping. It could number into the hundreds. If we have a few here, it's a hundred times, it's insane. All of these women, all the people of Robersonville
Starting point is 01:28:43 that tried to trust him, those kids, everybody, Jimmy. Everybody that's co-signed for him to get jobs, everybody that's been in his life. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do. I feel as much this week as I've done at any point in the past. I feel bad for them, but God damn it, not nearly, nearly as bad as I feel for David Meggett.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Two G's, two T's exact spelling. Unbelievable. A pilot for United Airlines. What the fuck? He went to Naval Postgraduate School after the University of Arizona. He resides in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Colorado. So many background checks.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Holy shit. And so many times he had to sit down and look an employer straight in the eye and say it's not me it's not me I didn't do it because if you google search
Starting point is 01:29:30 Dave or David Meggett you will get 30 pages of rape and horrors oh this poor guy and one poor son of a bitch
Starting point is 01:29:38 in there oh David Meggett you poor I salute you Captain because holy shit what a disaster, man.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Jesus. Unreal. Put one in the Hudson sometime and be a hero. Jesus, you know what I'm saying? So now 2008, Meggett befriends a woman named Stacey Hooper. She's a 21-year-old girl. She's trying to make enough money to attend the College of Charleston. She's living with a bunch of roommates in a shitty house.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yeah, that's all typical things. The whole college thing. Yeah. She's a lesbian, too. All right. She's a lesbian. This is a little different for Dave here. Now, Meggett hangs around these kids.
Starting point is 01:30:12 He's just hanging out with the kids. And they're like, they all thought it was kind of weird. Yeah, the middle-aged guy was hanging out. But they were like, these were all kind of fuck-ups, these kids. And they were like, they said, like,
Starting point is 01:30:23 the girl said her limits of weird are a little different than other people so she could accept it. She's a lesbian and she's had drugs and she's 21 and she's okay with people
Starting point is 01:30:31 when they're a little off you know what I mean? But you know this is very indicative of like that whole predator mentality to where like you run with that pack
Starting point is 01:30:41 and chase that pack around until that one gazelle gets sick and starts limping. That's it. And then you pounce. And then you pin their left arm behind the pack and you rape them. And then you tell everyone that you didn't pay her rent.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Good Lord. Free fucking, he says. Good God. So Meggett would hang around the kids. He'd loan them a few bucks from time to time. Where he's getting a few bucks to loan these kids anything. I don't know. He'd give them rides, places.
Starting point is 01:31:05 A few bucks. A few bucks to loan these kids anything. I don't know. He'd give them rides, places. A few bucks. A few bucks is probably accurate. It's probably exactly that. It's probably $3 here and there. Five bucks for Taco Bell. I mean literally.
Starting point is 01:31:15 And a 21 year old kid. That's fantastic. Guess who he told him his name was? Mike. You got it my friend. Old Mikey. He's back in town.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Old Mikey's back. She heard that he used to play football but she never even asked a follow up question. He's back in town. Old Mikey's back. She heard that he used to play football but she never even asked a follow-up question. She's a lesbian. She doesn't give a fuck about sports.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I don't care. None of them did. They were just like, yeah, whatever. Because he's old to them. They're like, whatever. He played football.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Who cares? They probably thought he was making it up. She said, quote, all I knew is that he said he had warrants in either Georgia
Starting point is 01:31:42 or North Carolina. He said he had fucked up. I felt sorry for him so I didn't ask him what they were for. It just seemed like he needed friends. Trusting people. Trusting people. And I assume that warrant is for failing to register as a sex offender in North Carolina. I'm 90% sure about that.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Now, Hooper was broke. She breaks up with her girlfriend at one point, and she's broke completely. Breaks up with the girlfriend who helped pay the bills here. She needs $200 from Megit to keep her electricity on in the house so Megit lends her
Starting point is 01:32:09 $200 pays the bill that was nice pays her bill for her she says at one point they had drunken consensual sex
Starting point is 01:32:16 wow she says this when she was quote going through a buy stage which is interesting going through a buy stage conveniently
Starting point is 01:32:24 when the electricity is about to get shut conveniently when the electricity's about to get shut off. When the electricity's about to get shut off, exactly. They don't talk for several months. They kind of just like drift apart. Because the electricity's paid. Yeah, I mean, they were all hanging out, whatever. Then one night, it's like one in the morning, she wakes up and Dave's sitting on the edge of her bed.
Starting point is 01:32:40 He came in her house, sat on the edge of her bed, and he wants his 200 bucks back now. It was like eight months later. He's like, by the way bed and he wants his 200 bucks back now it's like eight months later he's like by the way bitch where's my 200 she's like i was sleeping yeah pay up bitch that's his whole thing time for you to pay up bitch he said quote don't fuck with me and my money and then he continued i'm gonna get a down payment now and uh yeah so she resisted he chokes her yeah to stop the resisting. And then, we don't even need to say it, left arm behind, twists her left arm under the back, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Same technique. She said, quote, it hurt really bad. I was crying telling him to stop and he was hurting me. I couldn't fight anymore and he was able to get my pants off. So he rapes her, of course. He, this time, he's getting smart with DNA and shit. He pulls out and busts off into a towel here. Nice.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Clever. Yeah. Should have done that nine times earlier. Exactly. Yeah, busts out into a towel. Fucking scumbag. And then takes the towel with him. Yep.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Says, quote, I'm gone. And he's out. Goes out the front door. But then he stops and starts talking to her through the front window he was saying he was sorry and say asking for forgiveness and saying that he was wrong and they were still friends it's cool wow he's like it's cool right it's it's cool right like i don't you're not gonna go to the cops or nothing like these other crazy girls you know listen i've been through this once or twice people can't take a
Starting point is 01:34:02 rape and once in a while it's like like, come on. What the fuck? So she goes to the hospital, and they took pictures and saw the hand marks and bruises on her neck. They take all the pictures. Megget kept calling her to apologize in the hospital, and the cops are there. And Hooper, the girl here, Stacey Hooper, and the police set it up for the police to hear his phone apologies. And she tells him to come to the hospital to visit her. And so this happens here. She comes, she does this. Prosecutor Chad
Starting point is 01:34:31 Simpson here from before says quote, she played into his hopes that if he acted like a nice guy she wouldn't go forward. And he figured if he was standing right there she'd be less likely to tell the detectives what actually happened. No. He's arrested in the hospital detectives what actually happened. No. He's arrested in the hospital lobby as he walks in.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Nice. He walks in thinking, okay, I've got to go placate this girl so she doesn't call the cops. You're going to go wash this dirty laundry. They take him in. Good. No bail. No bail. Nice.
Starting point is 01:34:58 He waits 21 months for the trial. Sits in jail waiting for shit. So he's getting what he deserves now. Time to pay up, bitch. Time to pay up, bitch. Fucking prosecutors, they file a motion to introduce Meggett's prior crimes as evidence. This is clever. Circuit Judge Christy Harrington denies it, saying it would prejudice the jury.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Right. The only way to get that in is if the defense is bringing up a character defense. Then you can say, oh, your character, this is part of your character, your past crimes. If they don't do that, then you can't bring it in, basically. Right. He doesn't testify. He doesn't do that. So, yeah, basically it's inadmissible.
Starting point is 01:35:36 But it's very clever that they did this because the prosecutors wanted the judge to know what his priors were. Yeah. And we'll find out why in a minute here. Meggett now does not have a silver-haired middle-aged white man as a lawyer at all. Yeah, because he can't afford it. It's a public defender. He's got a public defender named Beattie Butler. Beattie fucking Butler now.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I love it. That is not a former U.S. attorney, I have a feeling. At all. That is not a good omen either. When he sees that on the paperwork, he's got to go, fuck, I'm so ruined. Now, he actually did a couple of smart things here. He was able to have it so the jurors didn't know that he was a former NFL player,
Starting point is 01:36:11 so they wouldn't look him up on the internet, right? So Butler also had Meggett's Wikipedia page deleted for a while during the trial. Wow. Yeah, so he was savvy, this guy. Good for him. Now, listen to this ineptitude. This is the luckiest son of a bitch on guy. Good for him. Now listen to this ineptitude. This is the luckiest son of a bitch on earth.
Starting point is 01:36:28 The luckiest. Police lose the photos that they took of Hooper's neck. What? So they don't have that evidence. They searched his vehicle and found the towel without a warrant. So guess what's not admissible? The towel. Can't put that in either. So all his evidence is going out the window.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Basically every bit of physical evidence. The defense says that they're two friends and they had a repayment agreement for sex. They said they had an arrangement. He said yeah,
Starting point is 01:36:52 we'll fuck four times or whatever. 40, 50 bucks a pop. Half and half going, right? He came to get a suck and fuck. He came to get a suck and fuck.
Starting point is 01:36:59 The attorney Butler said, rapists don't ask for condoms and they don't ask for forgiveness. Well, I don't know what they do, rapists. They rape. So that's the important part.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Whatever they do afterwards really doesn't matter. They do try to stay out of jail. They do try to stay out of jail. Thank you, Jimmy. That was brilliant. Janine Loveland, if we remember, our drugged girl in the Porsche with the nerve damage in her hand was actually subpoenaed in this case, but they never called her. Right. But she was just in case.
Starting point is 01:37:24 They had her locked and loaded because that was the priors. Like, if he brings up one thing, we're bringing this bitch, but they never called her. Right. But she was just in case. They had her locked and loaded because that was the priors. Like, if he brings up one thing, we're bringing this bitch on the stand. Bringing her for a minute. We're bringing a tiny white girl on the stand saying what he did. With a broken-ass hand.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Exactly. So, Meggett does not testify in this trial, smartly, probably. The jury deliberates for four hours, which the prosecutors started to get nervous because they were like, this shit should not take four hours, which the prosecutors started to get nervous. They were like, this shit should not take four hours, and all that evidence was gone. They start thinking about offering a plea deal.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Oh, my God. They're like, maybe we should just try to plea this out. But they say, nope, you know what? Let's write it out with the jury. Because you know what? If we don't get him here, he'll rape someone else next month, and we'll get him there.
Starting point is 01:38:00 He is found guilty after four hours of first-degree criminal sexual conduct and burglary. Oh, because he... You know why? The towel. Because he took the towel. Yeah. That's not his property.
Starting point is 01:38:11 That's not his. And that counts, too, because that's an aggravating factor. It probably said Hilton on the tag anyway. It probably did. She didn't have a towel. It wasn't hers, but it was in her house, so it's hers. Now, for sentencing, this is when the priors with the judge came up exactly simpson here is smart this prosecutor he said that they knew the judge was not going to
Starting point is 01:38:30 allow the priors and they have no chance of that but it doesn't matter but in sentencing he wanted her to see them absolutely now she knows before that she wouldn't have known right that's a sexual predator this man is a registered sex offender yeah now we come to sentencing day this fucking moron declines to make a statement before sentencing if you've been convicted and you're about to be sent for forgiveness you get your ass out there and you sit on your knees i'm sorry and i'm wrong and i've read the bible and i've had a moral epiphany a mexican pimp showed up into my jail cell and asked me holy shit. A Mexican pimp at this point bursts into the courtroom,
Starting point is 01:39:07 guns blazing, pours him a drink, and he asks... How is it that you have come to find yourself here? How is it you have come to arrive here? How is it you've come to arrive here? Mr. Meggett, I ask you, how is it you have come to arrive here? That's it. How is it you've come to arrive here? Mr. Maggots, I ask you,
Starting point is 01:39:28 how is it you've come to arrive here? It's this cock. Would you like some schwarzenegger? It's this cock. It's this cock. So he declines to speak, and guess what the judge bangs him for? This is great.
Starting point is 01:39:42 I want to hear it. 30 years. Oh my God. Not only that, in South Carolina, they don't do this shit if it's a rape crime like this. He's doing 25 minimum. Wow. Minimum. You, sir,
Starting point is 01:39:56 may fuck off. Absolutely. And keep fucking off. Because you are a 60-year-old man at this point. Until you are at least 72 years old. He is dead. He will die in prison. He's a dead motherfucker. Yeah, he's dead. He's dead.
Starting point is 01:40:06 He's going to die in prison. He's going to die in prison. In prison, he's doing great. They said he's like a part of the honor guard where they let the dorms open like Oz and they go watch TV and shit. Everybody likes him. He's never had a problem. Because there's no women to rape.
Starting point is 01:40:19 There's no women to fuck. No women to rape. As long as there's nobody to rape, he's a great guy. Right. You've got to keep him away from women. fuck. No, I'm going to rape. As long as there's nobody to rape, he's a great guy. Gotta keep him away from women. Now, here's something that pissed me off. In an article on
Starting point is 01:40:27 profootballtalk.nbcsports.com Legit article. Greg Rosenthal, who's an NFL.com guy, said this whole thing. He described the whole thing. He described in this article Dave's history, his other battery charges. Really? So he's very
Starting point is 01:40:44 well versed in the world of Dave Megan yeah this isn't his first time he's heard Dave Megan and rape in the same sentence and he says after all of the shit he said he said that quote that said the sentence seems excessive does it you fucking asshole no it doesn't I want him in the cell right next to you you're a cunt you piece of shit I want him going to see Tom Payne is what I want. And he's got a little blue checkmark next to his name on Twitter. I hope you all find him and tweet at him and call him a cunt. Friend him and call him a cunt. Follow him and call him a cunt.
Starting point is 01:41:12 I'm tired of this. Now, for the kid here, Davin signs a three-year free agent deal with the Houston Texans. Oh, good for him. And he bounces around. He ends up on the Redskins and a few other teams. Doesn't really do anything with it. He bounces around. He ends up on the Redskins and a few other teams.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Doesn't really do anything with it. Now, to wrap this up, let's get Davin's take on the whole thing. Oh, God. This is almost an in their own words. His son's words on his father. Son's words on his dad's basically everything now. And they keep coming to him. And he's got to represent nine other kids and all this shit.
Starting point is 01:41:45 So he says, quote, Do I think he did it? I think he did something. I don't think he did what the police said or what the woman said. He may have hit her, but I don't think he did it to the extent that he had to go away for 30 years. He could have put his hands on her violently. He's an explosive athlete. I'm not going to say he didn't hit her, but it wasn't a Floyd Mayweather jab to the throat.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Maybe he just pushed her into the wall or something like that. Davin, you've been groomed by your father. Fucking unreal. Everybody around him. Davin, you're a male, so you see him as the great guy and the great father. Yeah. NFL player. Oh, your dad's Dave Megan? You played in the NFL. You're following in your dad's footsteps, kind of.
Starting point is 01:42:20 But you think he's a great person because of that. If you were a girl, you would fucking despise this man. You'd despise him. So he appeals. They appeal it. It fails. Basically, in South Carolina, there's no rehab for shit.
Starting point is 01:42:33 He's not going to counseling or anything because they just don't. They just throw him in a cage and stuff. The rest of the world, our prison system is way different than yours. You guys try to like- It's all privatized and fucked up. Here it is, and especially in the South, because they don't give a fuck down there.
Starting point is 01:42:48 It's all about punishment. They basically just throw you in a hole. They're looking to try to find a way to kill you so that it's over and it's done. So it's cheaper. Yeah. So, I mean, and there we go. That's Dave Maggot.
Starting point is 01:42:59 I mean, he's sitting in jail and he's going to be there for a long time. Good riddance, asshole. It's over. He's going to die in there a long time. Good riddance, asshole. It's over. He's going to die in there. And his son can go to his grave or go to his father's funeral and just say, he was good to be. This is one of the worst people we've ever done. This is worse.
Starting point is 01:43:14 He's a terrible human being. I can think of at least five murderers that were less shitty than this. That ruined less lives. That ruined less lives. That's what it is. That were less shitty. Craig Titus was less shitty than this. Even Naposki was probably less shitty than this.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Ruined way less lives. Way less lives. Ray Carruth killed a pregnant woman, so fuck him. He's whatever. It's pretty awful. Like Jason Williams, like an accidental shot in the face. I mean, this guy is way worse. Tommy Morrison, I mean, he banged a bunch of chicks. Yeah. He was just stupid. No one matches his stupid. And he was just slinging AIDS
Starting point is 01:43:42 out there. He was just pumping AIDS out like it was from an ice cream truck. But this is just it's predatory. Everybody else didn't have that predatory. He's just an absolute predator. He's a monster. He's a fucking human. Terrible human being. Monster incarnate Teflon Dong.
Starting point is 01:43:58 That's it. He's the Teflon Dong. Wrapping it up. I wish I could call the episode the Teflon Dong, but I can't. No, that's a little too on the nose. Dung on iTunes, too. I don't think we'll fly. But, goddammit.
Starting point is 01:44:10 It's a little too perfect, really. It's a little too, yeah, good. But that's what it is. It's bulletproof. So that's Dave Meggett, guys. Jesus, we told you it was a tale. And it was, man. Because that was a mess.
Starting point is 01:44:21 He shouldn't have messed with a lesbian. That's the thing. After all this, the lesbian. I love it. The lesbian fucked him over. Good for you, lesbians. Lesbian community. Shock that up for a win for LGBT.
Starting point is 01:44:30 That's a win. Rapist off the street, man. I'm telling you guys. So we're going to do some quick shout outs here for all the people that like to interact with us and everything. If you want to follow us on social media, it's at Crime and Sports on Twitter. Crime and Sports at gmail.com. If you want to tell us some shit
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