Crime in Sports - #328 - Gangs, Guns, Patriots & Prison - The Truculentness of Aaron Hernandez

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

This week, we look at one of the violent, aggressive, and disturbing individuals, to ever enter the NFL. And that's saying something. From his early, and ongoing gang ties, to the fact that he was pretty sure he could get away with anything. He almost did get away with anything, until the bullets started flying. His best friend accused him of shooting this friend in the eye, and he was tried for 3 different murders! His prison life was just as crazy, with fights, attacks, and eventually ending it all, in a horrific way, and leaving a few notes behind! Be too crazy for football, shoot your best friend over a minor disagreement, and be convicted for the murder of another friend, while being tried for two more murders with Aaron Hernandez!!Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We actually, well, we'll get into it here. But it's Aaron Hernandez is who we're going to talk about today. So even people who don't know sports know Aaron Hernandez. So we'll get into all that very quickly before we start. Shutupandgivememurder.com is where you get all your merchandise and stuff like that. Patreon is the important thing here. Patreon.com slash crime and sports is where you get all the bonus materials. That's where you get all the good stuff here.

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That says, let's get into this. Let's do it. Aaron Hernandez, we've been asked from our very first episode, are you going to do Aaron Hernandez? Of course we're going to do Aaron. No, we're going to do sports criminals and skip a murderer. That's what we're going to do. No, of course, who played for the patriots in their golden era of course we're gonna do hung out with tim tebow for christ's sake of

course we're gonna talk about it it's crazy some of the biggest news the entire time this podcast was happening oh shit it was going down during the whole podcast the podcast started before when aaron hern Hernandez was still alive. Put it that way. The podcast was going. So, you know, it's been a while. And on this one, I have to say, we have actually done,

we did like a documentary. The crazy thing is, I don't remember what it's called. I don't remember what streamer it was on. I don't know. It was Netflix? It was definitely Netflix. Okay.

We were on a Netflix Aaron Hernandez documentary. So somewhere. Oh, no, no, no, no. That was Investigation Discovery. Okay. Investigation Discovery. So we were at some point out there somewhere as an Investigation Discovery Aaron Hernandez special with us on it.

And my name misspelled. Yeah. And yours too. Oh, yeah. You were Wistman, I believe. Wistman. Who knows what I was. Yeah. And yours too. Oh, yeah. You were Wistman, I believe. Wistman. Who knows what I was. It could have been anything.

So either way, yeah, terrible. We gave them the names and they still messed it up. So whatever you hear from Investigation Discovery, grain of salt. Let's just put it that way. They couldn't get our names correct and we gave them to them several times. We literally spelled them. There was paperwork involved in this we had to sign our names to a release thing and everything so they had our names they cut us

a check they cut us did we get paid yeah we got paid slightly for whatever small amount you know the documentary scale or whatever it was but yeah and then we also got offered to talk about aaron hernandez on another documentary do you remember that no yes remember that was the la thing where they offered to fly us right fly us coach to la do the show and then take us right back to the airport to fly back on coach and for no money and we're like what are you fucking crazy no i'm not doing that you're nuts at least a nice hotel room if I'm going to do you a favor. Like, what are you talking about? We'll fly you southwest to L.A.

We'll inconvenience you terribly. And you get nothing for it. Cool? No, not cool. So we have studied Aaron Hernandez. We've gone over the Aaron Hernandez thing. We know all about Aaron Hernandez. Put it that way.

So that said, let's get into aaron joseph hernandez let's do it oh aj aj over here let's get it on born november 6th 1989 so that seems so young for all of this so young for all of this to happen holy shit oh my god it's right it seems like he should be like 74 or something for all the drama he's caused. It seems like his birth date should definitely be like 1974, 1976. Unbelievable. Crazy. So we'll go over his childhood quickly because as weird as his childhood is, it's nothing compared to the rest of his life.

So it's kind of uh you gotta go through you can't get stuck on any one component of aaron's life here because you'll miss everything else it's just so much going on um his dad's name is dennis and um his brother's name is jonathan and apparently dennis would beat the shit out of aaron and jonathan often really this was a very common thing here for aaron so when we talk about cte it could have started from an even younger age getting hit in the head as a child by your dad possibly maybe who knows so that's that's something to think about um aaron dennis and jonathan it sounds like such a caucasian household yeah very much so very much so bizarre

it sounds well they're not like they're they're certainly ethnic well i don't know what they are though yeah but they're they've they've been here it's kind of like um i just liken this to italian families by the time they've been here for four generations they're kind of you know a lot of it gets kind of bred out of them and they end up uh they end up being wonder bread wops as we like to call them that I appreciate the Sopranos publicizing that term because that's been used for decades in the community. So that's funny as shit. When I heard that, I was like, oh, wow, now everybody knows about that. Interesting.

So I guess Dennis was a big drinker and he'd just come home and take his problems out on his children, essentially. Jesus, Dennis. was a big drinker and he'd just come home and take his problems out on his children essentially so that will make for either meek children or very tough children one or the other yeah or or bullies straight up bullies totally that's that's how it works so uh aaron gets aaron aaron has a very very close relationship with weeded, by the way. He really enjoys Weed. From the start? From high school. Weed keeps Aaron on the tracks. Yeah.

If you want, you need to get Aaron a little bit stoned, I feel like, or else he's going to be very fiery, like more than normal. His temper gets all out of control and he gets – he's a real kind of angry guy. And I feel like the weed it tempers him a little bit and i don't know if he figured that out early on because he was angry with his family situation his dad beating the shit out of him or whatever and he figured out that weed chills him out or what it is but it certainly helped i'm sure he's got a lot of aggression the catalyst for trying it yeah and at the same time if he's smoking weed the whole time and doing terrible things you can't discount weed making him uh less inhib as well. You know what I mean? And I'm a huge weed proponent. But I mean, if it works for you, it works for you. If it doesn't, it doesn't. But apparently Aaron really, really enjoys weed. Starts hanging out with a guy in high school and smoking weed before like football practice and all that sort of thing.

and smoking weed before like football practice and all that sort of thing. That's that Dennis Sansucci guy who he is the guy who on one of the documentaries, he's the high school teammate. I believe he's a backup quarterback if I'm not mistaken, who says that they had a gay relationship for a long time during high school. That's his buddy. There's a whole documentary about it, and I don't know if it's true or not but the kid i mean he did a whole documentary really yeah it was espousing it so i mean speaking his truth speaking his truth so i i'm not sure and

based on what happens later on i'm not going to discount it being true right and it doesn't really matter other than the fact that i think that could just add one more factor to aaron uh being angry of hiding things and yeah and being and not feeling like he's part of that's got to be really difficult to be a star be in the spotlight and being fake and hiding a lot hiding that much of your of an aspect of who you are yeah and granted your sexuality doesn't fucking matter it's nobody's business no but but for him as a football team yeah in reality in the reality of the world it does matter in that aspect to him and it's gonna matter for his you know for in marketing and in professional sports too It's not like you don't see a lot of gay NFL players.

You know what I'm saying? Like, the latest quarterback is in number two overall. They're very excited about him. Threw for over 5,000 yards last year at Baylor. And his partner, Todd, thinks that he's good. Like, you don't hear that on there. Whether it happens, there's tons of gay athletes you don't know about but that's not they have marketed statistically it's impossible that they're all straight yeah

you can't yeah no that's not that's not a thing it's just impossible you can't tell me that no yeah it's not it's not a thing it's just not people are people are gay they've been gay for years they've hidden it it's just how it works so it's just wild that they all shower together you know what i mean and they're all naked together all the time because I'm attracted to women. And if I got to shower with the cheerleaders, it would be the happiest day of my life. Yeah. And it would be the worst day of theirs. Granted, I'm not going to rape them.

No, but you don't want you'd be leering. Right. You don't want an aroused guy checking you out. But I don't know what you are. want an aroused guy checking you out but i don't know what you are i think that's one of those things that if you are if you're if you're on the down low like that and you're hiding that sort of thing you're definitely used to that you're definitely you know you're you think you you think hold on you think you can keep from getting a boner when something fucking hot is right there if you if you're with that every

single day all the time maybe probably yeah i think you can temper it if it yeah talk to a talk to a bouncer at a strip club and see if he cares a thing about tits tits don't excite him guaranteed he goes i don't know i see a lot of tits he doesn't care you could bounce tits in his face you can shake an ass in his face he He doesn't give a shit about that. He sees it every fucking day. I think it's the same thing. I think if I was a porn director, I would be rock hard every day. That's why you're not a porn director.

You'd be a little too horny. But no, you get used to anything, I think. You get used to it over a period of time. There's guys who have hot ass wives who cheat on them because they're like i don't know i'm just not feeling it anymore and you're like what are you fucking crazy that brought time that's what happens you're like what is wrong with you people just especially guys they're just used to things oh there's 40 cocks again great like who cares after a while so uh now jonathan his brother say he'll his brother's gonna have a lot of insights here, which is good because a sibling will know more than a parent.

You know what I mean? Always. Yes. They're much more trusted as a confidant. Absolutely. You don't tell your parents a dirt. No. And you're probably going through – they're probably going through similar things and they're comparing notes.

So that's how that works. And they may have done some of the dirt with you. Who knows? Oh, usually, yeah. similar things and they're comparing notes so that's how that works they may have done some of the dirt with you who knows oh usually yeah so his brother jonathan said that aaron had uh aaron told him later on that aaron had been molested when he was a young boy by somebody in the neighborhood and so that's a that's a big deal later on with his lawyers aaron will speak to his lawyers about being sexually abused as a child either. They never identify who this possibly was. Apparently, we're not sure who this was. So he he was Aaron was close to his cousin, Tanya.

OK, that's a cousin of his. And apparently, Jesus Christ, Tanya's husband, Jeff, had an affair with Aaron's mom, Terry. Oh, wow. Aaron was, and it came out, I guess, and it got blown up. His cousin's husband banged his mom. Banged his mom. So he was very, very upset about that also, and apparently very angry about that very angry at his mom very angry at everybody pretty much except for tanya i don't think i don't think she was probably sad too so

i doubt he was mad at her why didn't you blow your husband better so he wouldn't fuck my mom is a weird statement to make right you gotta commiserate with her that's gonna make him feel like we're like we're just trash like our family. It's not blood, but it's certainly not okay. I'm being molested over here. I'm not being protected. My dad's drinking, beating the shit out of me. My mom's banging my cousin's husband. This sucks.

Yeah. That's a general this sucks. When you're growing up at that time, you're going to feel like, are we going on the Jerry Springer show or not? Because by 1999, you're like, are we going to start throwing chairs at each other on television? Fuck it at this point. That's what it would have been. But never mind that. In high school, though, he is in his senior year.

He's named an All-American in high school after catching 24 touchdowns in his senior season. Yeah, he's a beast. He's a fucking monster. Is he a wide receiver? He's a tight end. He's always a tight end because he's a real stocky guy, and he doesn't have receiver speed. He has good tight end speed. Would have been a decent inside linebacker, I feel like, as well.

Sure. Would have been that kind of guy. Decent because he's real aggressive, too. He's pretty aggressive for an offensive player, which is why coaches like him. Yeah. Weird that that guy wound up being a murderer. Strange, right?

Which, I mean, how many guys are animals on the football field and might be nice guys off the field? It happens all the time. I mean, guys who are beasts and then off the field, he doesn't even swear. Doesn't swear on the field. That's what I'm saying. There's tons of guys like that. I mean, they who are beasts and then off the field, he doesn't even swear. Doesn't swear on the field. That's what I'm saying. There's tons of guys like that.

I mean, they play balls out. They play like killers, and they can separate that from the rest of the world. And some people, personality leaks over. So he's a high school All-American. Family life sucks. Home blows. Grace. Okay.

That's grace for Aaron because he doesn't even play a game in college before he's involved in an alleged shooting. Is that right? Yeah. We'll talk about all this, man. His innocent days are over right now in this story. Wow. It's fucking crazy. When do you think he got his first gun?

Because he had them illegally forever, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because he grew up in the worst area of Connecticut. He grew up in Bristol. Yeah. In Bristol, Connecticut, which, yeah, it sucks. He it's not like he's from a middle class family.

That's the thing. Yeah. He's not from the projects. He's from a middle class family where both parents worked decent. You know, they had a public school yeah they had stuff they you know electric wasn't getting shut off they wasn't doing homework by candlelight or any bullshit like that like some of the people we've talked about sure came from a background where that's not an excuse other than how fucked up his family was economics

aren't an excuse in his in his case It's all brought upon themselves and behavioral. Behavioral and whatever was instilled. You know, he's abused as a kid. He's got all sorts of problems. But that's still tons of people are abused as kids in every single way. And they don't grow up to be Aaron Hernandez. It's just, you know, one of those things. 2006, though, right before he goes to college here, his dennis at 49 goes in for a hernia surgery

normal hernia surgery and dies oh shit during a routine hernia surgery just died on the table yeah that's died right then uh aaron said everyone was close to my father but i was the closest i was uh with him more than i was with my friends when that happened who do i talk to who do i hang out with it was tough so i guess despite his father being abusive at it when he was younger he i don't know made friends with him i guess i tried to make his dad happy i'm sure and eventually well also he's 17 and probably could kick the fuck out of his dad. Now I was going to say he tried to make his dad happy until the day that he got so big that his dad went, I don't know if I should hit that motherfucker. He's huge. He goes to 25 right now. I don't think works out in

the morning. Like I get up, I cough a bunch. I smoke a half a bag of cigarettes. He gets out and does bench presses. Like that's how he does what he does when he gets up this is crazy maybe wrong guy to fuck with let's have another kid i want another someone smaller can we get someone smaller in here fucking kid is huge so uh apparently uh aaron tried to be a peacemaker amongst his family but after his's death, his family really kind of got into fighting with each other and fell apart. His mother, I guess his mother said later on that he was very, very angry at this time after his dad died. Just very, very angry. And his older brother described him as lost and just lost and didn't know what to do with himself. Absolutely just decimated

and lost by the by his dad being killed dying yeah it's so i mean that happens but usually by 17 you might be able to i don't know it shouldn't you tend to lean on friends and like that that guides your way you know what i mean yeah and you bond with them closer and then then that shit matters to you but he said the closest person he had was his dad which is interesting it's very interesting so he gets recruited by a lot of colleges even though he's got some negative things attached to him there's some negative stuff about him. He's got a temper. He's got an attitude problem once in a while. They're unsure of his possible gang affiliations, criminality, things like that. But it's Florida.

So they say, is he currently under indictment for like a major violent felony? Currently? No, that's been dropped. Don't say investigation. Say indictment. Full court press. Yeah, I'm talking about indictment. Has it gone to grand jury? Because if not, we can recruit this kid. I really feel like you can contribute in the backfield. That's how Florida is, especially during this time. The amount of for this Urban Meyer era of Florida, the amount of felons that have come from this team is mind-boggling and staggering it's fucking wild it's it's the think about the behavior that urban meyer would look beyond when as an nfl coach with the biggest spotlight ever on him he's backdoor fingering a chicken that's what i mean that's

urban meyer is that's crazy we'll find find out exactly who Urban Meyer is this week. But in Florida at the time, it never came out because who was the face of the team, Jimmy? Oh, it was Tim Tebow, Mr. 316 himself. Mr. Smiles and a little ting comes off of his tooth and his eye twinkles and Jesus dances before him. So this guy can make Jesus do wiggle on the cross. That's how fucking religious he is. So he never, I mean, they never got past that. He'd do an interview and they'd be like that.

Oh my God. What a wonderful young man. I wish he'd marry my daughter. I've murderers, killers, whatever. That's fine. But Tim Tebow, we need to get out of the locker room and let Tim be. Look at him. This lumbering son of a bitch.

So Aaron was so shaky that the staff in Florida, this is a quote, the staff in Florida didn't want him going home on the weekends. Back to Connecticut? Anywhere, because they were afraid of what would happen if he ever tried to go, even for a spring break or a Christmas break or something. Just stay down here, why don't you? Yeah, they were afraid he'd get in trouble. Enjoy the sun.

What are you going to Connecticut for? It's cold there. Ah, it's November. Thanksgiving? No way. So they tried to convince him to stay during breaks, and there was a lot of uneasiness about home football weekends because the guys from Bristol would come down for home games.

What? So his dad always insulated him from those people in Bristol, this person says. His dad had associated with them, I believe, and when his dad died, he was broken. The guys who were there for him were the gang guys, and that's where the loyalty came in. Those guys had his back, and it was important. Oh, fuck. So that's where he kind of slips into this. He's looking for his friends, and he leaned on his friends.

His friends just happened to be gangbangers, which isn't the best friends to lean on. So here's right away. He's at the he goes down to Florida. It is after the school session has ended. But before, obviously, the next season and before summer practices. OK, so this is him. They go down there right when he's done with high school to start getting acclimated to the campus and everything. All right.

June or late May. Yeah, it's like right then, right then. So this is at a bar called The Swamp, which it's a good place to be. It's in Florida. It's called The Swamp. I'm avoiding it, but apparently it's heaving on the weekends. This joint back in the day. Come on in, get some warm beer.

Oh, that sounds disgusting. No air conditioning, but we put the fans on. It's heaving on the weekends this joint back in the day. Come on in, get some warm beer. Oh, that sounds disgusting. No air conditioning, but we put the fans on. It's fine. You'll love it. Don't worry about it. Keeps the bugs out. Gross. So it was about midnight on a Friday night.

Now Aaron was upstairs. It's around campus. It's called The Swamp. It's a bar restaurant. He's hanging out there. was upstairs it's a it's around campus it's called the swamp it's a bar restaurant he's hanging out there he's hanging out with tim tebow and a guy and a tennis player named sean young okay so that's who that's the three of them aaron hernandez sean young tim tebow and they are drinking tebow and aaron are drinking lemonade because okay well, Tebow can't be seen drinking alcohol in public because he's Mr.

Mr. Fucking sparkly. And Aaron is 18 years old. So there's a good reason for it. Yeah. You can't do this. So they're drinking where Sean Young is of age and he's drinking, having a drink. He doesn't.

No one cares. The fucking tennis player does. You know what I mean? He could kill three people who would barely register that he was having a drink. No one cares what the fuck a tennis player does. You know what I mean? He could kill three people who would barely register that he was a tennis player. Just say, local guy kills three people. Florida, man. In Florida, yeah. With football, the Gators.

No way. They don't give a shit about that down there. So he's doing that. I guess this is between when classes were over and finals. Finals are the next week for Florida. So it's still technically in the school year. So apparently it's full. The bar's packed.

This place is packed. And before a little while, a waitress comes over with two shots that somebody sent over. So the waitress just gives them to Aaron because she didn't know who he was. She just knew he was a football player. And Aaron, if you have to look at them, he does not look young at all. No. Aaron always looked 10 years older than he was. Well, he has a strong man's face, but it still looks youthful and kind.

Yeah, but I mean, like the way even the way his like beard stubble is is he like it's like a 35 year old man's beard stubble he doesn't look like a child he just doesn't and he's a solid jaw yeah he looks and he's big and he's a big guy exactly he's a big guy he's got that low hairline that makes him look you know he just makes him look older half inch between eyebrows and hair yeah it's incredible he has to make a path between his eyebrows and his hair he's like when he goes to the barber he's like can you make me a lane just like width of the razor width of the shaver lane that's all i need just a give me a forehead just give me like a little not too much of a forehead i don't want to be

give me a ridge give me a little bit of a ridge here. Just so the women don't think I'm the wolf man. That's all I'm looking for. So it's packed. They sent over this. Now, the bar's owner, Ron DeFilippo, he owns the Swamp. He said, Hernandez looked like a 30-year-old man, like LeBron, a man-child at 17. If you saw him walking your way, you'd cross the street. Didn't look like a teenager yeah yeah

looked like a big guy that's a that's a fat it was almost a compliment and then he was like you'd cross the street he's scary he's a big tough looking man i think that is not yeah i think it's one of those and by the way i mean let's be realistic here do you think that all the gators that go out drinking are 21 years old in Florida? Or do you think that they're happy to have football players in their bar and they don't care if they drink? Let's be realistic here. So a guy named Tim Washington flew down. It's a friend of Aaron's to visit him in Florida.

He's hanging out down there. He said that he couldn't believe how the players are treated around town. It's ridiculous. He said if you're a Gator, you can do no wrong. I remember after a game, we went and pulled up at the liquor store. Aaron walked in and got what he wanted. I was just sitting there like, yo, you're a freshman. They

know you're a freshman. How can you buy this? How can you even do this? It was just normal. We went to after parties where some of the DJs had water bottles for players when they came in because they needed to hydrate except those bottles were full of vodka so it was just this fun thing of you get the players in there and all that it is 2007 no it's what i mean it's not like it's 1977 this whole story seems way out of place but flor Florida really, let's be honest here. What decade are they in down there?

Yeah, it's a mess down there. So Aaron Hernandez here around the colleges with drinking. Jesus, that's a mess. It's a fucking mess. That's what I'm saying. So Aaron at this point, not a big drinker. He's a weed guy. And if you're more of a weed guy, you're like, you'll drink, but you're not like, you know, that excited to drink.

I don't need to drink much. I've already got all this. And he's a kid, so he's not really into liquor. So if you give a 17-year-old who's not a big drinker a shot, he's like, that tastes like shit. So he just dumps it into his lemonade. He dumped the shots into his lemonade and did it that way. So an hour later, it's about 1 in the morning, they go to leave. it that way so an hour later it's about one in the morning they go to leave and as he makes his way toward the exit the manager stops him and says hey you owe us fucking 12 bucks he's got a bill in

his hand he says you owe me 12 bucks and he said you know what about you gonna pay this or what so um now tim tebow and sean young both said that the manager a guy named michael taphorn was very aggressive toward him which most managers are when you try to walk out on a bill. They generally aren't. It's not you forgot this. You obviously ran up a bill. You knew that you had to pay something. You didn't pay it.

I'm a little angry. Now, in this case, it's different, though. The manager is sort of confused. There's some confusion here. Apparently, this guy gets right up in Aaron Hernandez's face, and everybody said he was irate. Who the hell is getting in this guy's face, number one, after he's had a couple of drinks? You get some ballsy shit. How big is this guy?

Probably not as big as him, you know what I mean, I would say, or as aggressive. So he gets right in his face. I guess Tebow steps in to resolve the situation. Hey, everybody, let's just say a psalm. Let's pray about it. We'll all just say whatever and get over it here so uh it was turning into a big deal a woman standing nearby overhearing it uh offers she just said i'll pay for it i'll pay for his bill i'll take care of it's twelve dollars

i got it right here but tap horn said no the managers waved her off so he doesn't want his money he wants a confrontation it sounds sounds like, at this point. I don't know if it's a – it's certainly a confrontation, but he's trying to prove a point? Like, fucking why, dude? That's exactly what it is. He's taking a stand right here. Yeah. So as this is all going on, the manager says, no, you're not paying the bill and tells Hernandez to get out, okay?

Okay. So the owner, Ron DeFilippo, he says things differently. That's according to Tim Tebow and Sean Young. That's how it went down. Now, according to Ron DeFilippo, he says that when Hernandez was confronted with the bill, Aaron said, quote, I don't pay for anything in this town. That's what he that's what DeFilippo claims. He said DeFilippo said like he had celebrity status so apparently hernandez agreed to walk outside tap horn follows close behind him and

then according to different people this is what happened at this point oh boy according to aaron tap horn got all stayed all up in his face and and according to Taphorn, Aaron pushed him a few times on their way out of the bar. So they're both calling each other the aggressor at this point. I'll bet both of those things happened. I can imagine both of those. That's what I'm going to say. I can imagine both of them happening. What would be a violation that would cause you to push somebody, James?

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Especially fights that are, it's different if it's like the staff of a bar that you want to frequent. You're going to be less likely to fight that person. It would take a couple more pushes and everything to escalate that if it was just some other drunk asshole at the bar. So we've all seen this so apparently at this point they get out on the patio and tap horn puts it like this quote he sucker punched me took a shot at him and then after he punched him aaron ran away he punched him and then ran at full speed which had to be tim tebow's probably like what's happening right now i'm i'm gonna be late for church on sunday and it's only friday night um this is worrisome for me

so um i guess aaron loses one of his shoes as he runs away even he doesn't even stop he ran out of a shoe and kept going so that tells me he knows he's wrong at that point yeah yeah exactly it feels like he probably felt threatened, punched the guy, and then reality hit him in the face. And he was like, oh, my God, I have things to lose now. I suppose, yeah. To me, this is one of those, as they got outside, he was planning to punch the guy, and he was planning to run away.

That was his plan. That was one of those, pop, and I'm running. It just doesn't seem like that would be, because I've seen people take shots at people like that. And it's that's what they do. So it's always it's always fucking planned here. So the I guess his left eardrum was blown up by this. He got punched in the ear. So he blew up a tap horns eardrum.

Took six weeks for that to heal. But he still ran after Aaron. And some of the bar staff also ran out after out there they're yelling come back come back and aaron just kept running so um there you go tap horn picked up his shoe and used it as evidence gave it to the cops when the cops got there and um bet he wishes he would have kept that. Yeah. Gave it away and put it on the fucking bar. No shit. And they all knew who. Yeah.

Right. Put it behind the bar. Yeah. Nail it up to the wall. Yeah. That's Aaron Hernandez's shoe. He ran out of it after he exploded my fucking eardrum. Aaron Hernandez.

I can't hear you. Aaron Hernandez's sucker punch shoe. So he kicked you with the shoe. No, no, no. He punched me and then he ran out of the shoe it's never mind maybe i should put a plaque explaining what happened because everyone's very confused by it he punched me but it's a shoe i don't understand and i can only half hear now yeah that's i can half hear you so either way the cops get there and he know everyone knew who he

was even though he hadn't even played yet and he just fucking got there like two months ago he said quote the freshman tight end he told the Gainesville Police Department knew exactly what it was um Sergeant Rowe of the Gainesville Police Department takes the manager's statement then places a call to Tim Tebow sure Tim don't want to bother you right now. I understand you're probably deep and deep in prayer. Um, but, but Tim, we do need to talk to you for a moment here. Um, they tell Tim that it would be an Aaron Hernandez, his best interest to give his side of the story. Cause right now we only have this guy and he's saying, and it doesn't look good for you. Yeah. Let's

bow. I mean, if he gives his side, obviously we'll believe him. He's a football player. We know they never lie. So clearly it's okay at that point. So he said that Sergeant Alert told Tim Tebow that no one's going to alert the press and your name will be kept out of this. It didn't come out that he was even there until later, obviously. It's like, well, can't have Tim Tebow's name sullied here. So about two hours later, Roe gets a call back, the sergeant. It's Hernandez, Tebow, and Young are saying that they're a few blocks away from campus and they'll meet with you right now

if you want to come meet with them. They're all coming to talk. Yeah, Tebow rounded up Hernandez and the other witness here, Sean Young, and they go. Every time you say that, I see Lois. I see, yeah, I know exactly who. I see every time. Every time you say., I see Lois. I see. Yeah, I know exactly who I see every time.

Every time you say I see crazy. Ask fucking Sean Young, who's Finkel Finkel. Yeah. And also known for many, many crazy things in Hollywood. Really? Oh, my God. She's the one who when they made one of the Batman, she dressed up in a cat suit. She bought her own cat suit and showed up at the fucking director's house saying I should be Catwoman

and they were like, are you out of your fucking mind? So it's like a big joke now. That's nuts. No, she's done a lot of crazy stuff, Sean Young. She's known as being a little wacky. I don't know if she's got problems or what, but yeah, she's definitely...

I like her. I like her a lot. I haven't seen her in things in about, I don't know, 30 years. It's true. That's's why because she's not so no one wants to work with her yeah she's uh damn it she's a little wacky on on set from what i understand so either way um every time i do it too i'm like sean young fucking i just pictured this guy in a bat suit with a tennis racket you know in a cat woman suit and a tennis racket so yeah they inform aaron of his miranda rights but he says he wants to tell his side of the story um he told the police that he didn't know uh the woman who

brought him the shots uh it was a waitress he didn't realize that the waitress was bringing him to him and he thought that somebody a fan had sent him over or something he's like i don't fuck i didn't ask for them and she showed up with shots so they were charging him for things that some that they gave him that twelve dollars was for those shots and he didn't know that they he didn't order them so he didn't know they were fucking that he had to pay for him i guess i don't know if it was whatever so he said i didn't order the drinks i didn't even like the drinks so i didn't i didn't want them well why the fuck do i have to pay for him he says that this tap horn guy kept rolling on him, kept advancing, kept coming toward him. So he said that that's when he called over Tebow to help to try to straighten the situation out.

Then they got outside of the bar. He said just to get tap horn out of his face, he threw a punch. Because a push from a 230-pound guy't enough here you gotta it wasn't working figured i should pop his eardrum that that usually does it so wow i would be furious if that was if that happened like can you imagine somebody wandering out around a bar with like hors d'oeuvres it's like and you like eat a couple of crab puffs and they're like, that'll be $12. What? What are you talking about? She specifically apparently came over and was like, here is these shots for you. And he was like, all right.

Like, I don't know if she was a shot. Yeah. There was more on there at one point in time and there was only two. Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't know. That's what I don't know what it was. But he's 17. And guess what?

It's on you because you didn't even fucking ID him. So, yeah. What are you talking about? It doesn't matter yeah you served a minor alcohol so then you can't try to charge him for it to make it worse now you're not only giving them to him yeah you're charging him for it which is another charge why would you do that just go let's call it a day 17 year old you didn't just ply a child with alcohol now you're selling it yeah that's what i mean it's now you're not just contributing to the delinquency yeah now you're doing a whole now you're ruining your business as well and putting your liquor license in jeopardy for 12 dollars

what's 12 bucks what's the grand prize at the end of this rainbow jimmy what's the pot of gold twelve dollars twelve fucking dollars unbelievable these people are like the people in nathan for you that slept on top of a mountain for eleven dollars in gas rebate that's what these people are like to me like what the fuck is wrong with you call it a loss asshole how much is the swamp struggling that you need twelve dollars yeah twelve dollars from a child. I need $12 from an underage. He's 17. He's not even an adult yet.

He's not even a fucking actual adult. So either way, he says he threw a punch. Aaron gives the cop his Connecticut driver's license. He offers the cop his mom's phone number. You want to call my mom? Here that is. She's a little baby. Yeah, which is so strange when you're getting charged for shots and calling his mom's phone number you want to call my mom here that is just such a baby because yeah it was just so strange when you're getting charged for shots calling his mom we're in a real

weird estuary of age at this moment in time strange gray area so he does that he tells roe that he and tebow already called their coach urban meyer and described the incident which you know how many how many 2 a.m phone calls calls did Urban Meyer get during this period? He shouldn't even go to sleep until like 5. Well, everybody should be in by now, I would think, right? When his phone rings, God, I hope this is a girl that wants to be fingered from behind. God, I hope so. Someone's got to have a camera.

Let's get out there. So Rose said, the sergeant said he was impressed with Hernandez. He called Hernandez polite and professional, seemed to be sober, there so rose said the sergeant said he was impressed with hernandez he called hernandez polite and professional seemed to be sober didn't seem to be fucked up or anything so um rose said that he decided against charging him with underage drinking decided against he's not going to charge him he said this was a matter that he felt was better handled internally within the university which is how a lot of a lot of covering up athletes bullshit happens. This show happens mainly happened for seven years because they think that things could be better handled internally.

And then it comes out eventually. So and that cop probably slept fantastically, even though he was making something pretty serious disappear, because at least it's not a rave. At least there's no victim. Oh, well, that's the other problem. There's still the matter of a felony battery charge that could possibly be going against Aaron here. But it's up to the manager whether he wants to press charges or not. Tap horn here. Yeah, because this is going to go before a jury, and we're going to have to discuss you serving alcohol to a minor well yeah and also is this bad for business you want to go

after gator players and then you know that's might not be good for business so the owner di filippo and tap horn both of them heard from the university in the next few days obviously trying to smooth it over they said uh di filippo said a couple of people who worked for urban meyer but never really identified themselves said quote it's in everybody's best interest if we reprimand the kid get him under wraps and let him go his own way then uh di filippo said a handler who worked for urban meyer called him and said let this thing go anything you ever need for the swap you just give us a call so they just urban meyer just ran gainesville

like a mob boss back then because his team was good at football which is fucking insane that is amazing so uh tap horn didn't end up pressing charges he said that um the only part of the deal was he says i won't press charges but i would like a would like Aaron Hernandez to come back to the bar to apologize to me. That's all I would like out of this. An apology. Hernandez said, sure, and then never did, obviously. According to DeFilippo, though, sometime after the night of the incident, members of his staff saw Aaron drive by the swamp, making shooting gestures with his finger at the people outside the swamp. Oh, my God.

At the staff here. DeFilippo called the university again, and he told the school official who they gave him contact with to get this kid under wraps. He's scaring my staff. He's acting like a fucking maniac. He's doing finger guns. He's either a 70s vacuum car salesman. Or a murderer.

Or a fucking menace to this town. He has. I reiterate, he has not played a fucking game yet. Not a single down. He's not trading against like clout that he's gotten because he's done so much. He hasn't even done shit yet. Imagine when this guy gets a few touchdowns, how he's going to act. Holy shit. done so much he hasn't even done shit yet imagine when this guy gets a few touchdowns how he's gonna act holy shit so the 2007 gators they go nine and four which is not not great for the gators in this period at all they finished 20th in the country wow which uh 13th in the ap poll they go to the

capital one bowl and uh they lose to michigan 41 to. So a complete bust of a season, essentially. A bowl loss, not a great record. Tim Tebow's the starting quarterback. You know who his backup is? I don't. Cam Newton. Is that right? Cam Newton was here for years before he went to Auburn.

Absolutely. Is that right? Yeah, he never got any playing time. That's why he transferred. Fascinating. Yep, Cam Newton. Cam Newton was 5 for 10 that season, so barely played. And Tebow played most of the time here.

And so, yeah, that's the team. End of September 2007, okay? Aaron, they lose 20 to 17 to the Auburn Tigers that day. Ouch. And Aaron played in the game, wanted to go out and have a good time. What are we doing here? So he goes to a place called Venue. It's a newer club in the area, but the football players dig it.

And it's one of those one-name douche clubs. One-word name. Yeah, Venue. It had previously been some other club and some other club before that and it's one of those places that just changes all the time something gets hot for two years then it's lame it closes down someplace new opens and that's also a word that like got like buzz somehow you know what i mean like yeah this is 2007 like yeah it back then that word wasn't used like it is today it's like the word content. Content wasn't a word until fucking now.

No, content was what was inside of a box. What are the contents of that box? That was content. Content wasn't stuff that people put 80 hours a week of work into and give to you for free, because that's what content means now. Who's sweating profusely and not charging for this that's content whereas back in the day it would definitely be shift contents they'll stop using that word as soon as a fucking nightclub in miami uses it yeah call it content and you just go in there it's a bunch of people attempting to

a bunch of microphones set up content or content who gives a fuck who cares man it sounds awful either way cool this place wasn't even called the venue it's just venue it's called venue venue it's one of those so um yeah they came in all the time everybody's always in there and everything like that aaron hernandez likes to hang out there a lot you know do his thing um then when they would close everybody would hang out in the parking lot outside, which, as you can imagine, a bunch of people who have just been drinking for hours on the inside now released into the wild in a large group. There's fights. There's craziness. Yeah.

How many stories have we had of athletes that are in bar parking lots? Like hundreds so far. Yeah. As soon as you're good and drunk and don't want people around you, you take the party to the parking lot. Yeah. It's so weird. Here's a tip.

You don't want to get into shit. Leave an hour before closing time. Right. You won't run into anybody. It's great. You just walk out and you leave, and you don't have to get in fights on the way to your fucking car or ride or whatever the shit.

And the other thing is the cops aren't looking near as hard at 1 a.m. as they are at 2 a.m. They're all gathered. They gather up at 1.30 to wait for 2. Sneak out ahead of the curve assholes. What are you doing? They're in the parking lot of the police station figuring out who's going to be in what area.

Yes. At 1 they're all deciding who's going to park and wait for the drunks where. That's when you get out. That's when you drive right by them when they're all grouped up. Wave at them. They won't be looking for you. Your lights could be off. They don't know.

They don't care. They don't fucking care. They got to know where they're going to be posted up to arrest football players for beating up women probably. So a former Gator named Reggie Nelson is back in town this night. Okay. And he is on the Jacksonville Jaguars now. He was their first pick in the draft that year.

So returning hero. Yeah, conquering hero. He's hot shit. So he comes down from Jacksonville and he's in the VIP booth and all that kind of shit. Also, Chris Harris is there, who'd been drafted by the Chicago Bears in 2005. He's a former Florida player as well.

He's there, and also the Pouncey brothers are there. Both of them? Mike and Marquise Pouncey, yeah. They're both here. Oh, my God. Both Pouncey brothers are here. Jesus, fuck. Those guys are vicious.

They're huge. They're just giant offensive linemen. You don't fuck with a pair of offensive linemen brothers. They will sumo you away from them so if you don't remember who he is when uh miles garrett whacked the quarterback yeah yeah of the of the steelers in the head with his own helmet a pouncey brother leveled him yeah that's miles garrett is enormous they're really tough guys the pounces they're known for it they're known for being being not people to trifle with. There's a bunch of other players there and less famous people and all that sort of thing.

So there's a bouncer there who said that Nelson hadn't been there for a while because he's playing for an NFL team now. But this bouncer said that he knew the Pounceys who were there all the time. And he said the Pounceys were always looking for a fight. Always. They love it. That's a terrible situation to put a bouncer into. Here's these two enormous guys who they love to have in the club who always want to start fights that you have to then try to get in the middle of. Thanks.

Their last name is literally Pouncey. Pouncey on your ass. Yeah. So they're always looking forouncey. Pouncey on your ass. Yeah. So they're always looking for a fight. Always looking for a fight. A local guy named Justin Glass was at venue as well. Not a football player. Just some guy from Gainesville. Oh shit. Just a Florida

man. Just some Florida guy here. He brought a couple friends with him. A Randall Cason and another guy named Corey Smith who they call Squirt. He's a little bit older of a guy. Squirt isn't like these guys. The guys he's with, Randall Cason and Justin Glass, they kind of hustle a little bit here and there. They have some stuff going on.

Squirt, he's got a job. He's got two kids. He's like a nine-to-fiver. Doesn't do any of this shit isn't a street guy he just kind of got talked into going out tonight type of deal so he's squirt well they're saying that he's been squirts been trying to keep justin glass off the streets basically trying to keep him from fucking getting into shit and being a you know getting in trouble so he's hanging out with him trying to whatever trying to give him a good influence is what it is.

So Kaysen and Glass apparently, though, were looking for trouble after a couple of drinks. They didn't want to. They were looking for trouble. Squirt was trying to tell him to chill out, calm down, be cool. And they were like, man, fuck you. They didn't want to hear that shit. Shut up, Squirt.

So according to Randall Kaysen here, there is an incident that took place the previous week when Kaysen's brother got into a fight with several Florida football players. Now Kaysen is here and there's a bunch of football players again. So he starts talking shit. People are talking shit back and forth. Apparently, a football player reached out and tried to grab a chain that case and was wearing around his neck but it didn't break it was a thick chain didn't break so uh reggie nelson said that at this point um he said when he got there aaron hernandez told him about this incident that happened here i guess what ended up happening is that somehow one of

the pouncey brothers chains got snatched off. That's how it happened. Okay. So Aaron Hernandez tells Reggie Nelson, Hey, this is what happened. This one guy and they snatched a chain away from the Pounceys and you know,

all this type of shit. So then the bouncer again, um, he says it was Justin glass, not case. And who was the guy who started shit with the Pounceys? And the bouncer said that one of the twins approached Glass and said, I want my motherfucking chain. Which seems like, yeah, that's a serious request at that point.

Here it is. Yeah, I got it. Oh, look, I found it. What's it look like? I'll get you a different one that looks just like it. I'll make you one. I'll start smelting. Calm down.

It's okay. What do you got? I'll start drinking Goldsch'll start smelting calm down it's okay what do you got i'll start drinking goldschlager until i shit one how's that i'm gonna head out to the mountains to fucking mine this shit for you glass instead said what chain i ain't got no damn chain is his response at that point um i guess the club security escorted the pouncey twins out of the club and they also kick out glass so now they just kick they basically kick the confrontation out into the streets which is they just threw a two-on-one into the streets with the monsters when you do that usually

like have a hold period of like you're gonna stay here for a minute you're gonna get the fuck out of here and then we're gonna let you go in 10 minutes when everybody's calmed down and they they've driven away i was a bouncer that's what you do and we'll watch the car until the brake lights are gone and then you two can leave and then you can go otherwise you're just gonna have a fight in the front now that you have to break up so what's that's terrible so that's what they do they they escort him out the pouncey twins said afterward out in the out in the club parking lot they said a quote a black man who snatched a chain away from pouncey taunted them and tugged at his shirt like showing tugging at his own shirt showing them like that he had a gun

even though he didn't show a gun he was just like tugging at his bottom of his shirt like i'm you know don't come near me so now everybody seems to agree that reggie nelson stepped in to try to diffuse the situation hey it's all good hey listen i'm a millionaire i don't understand why you guys are so upset that's what that is basically hey guy who works at a car wash and and students who are trying to make it, I'm doing very well. Do you understand that? There's no reason to be upset, which is how I would be if I was him. Hey, come on, everybody.

You ever heard your name by Roger Goodell in the first round? It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. I'll play the story. I don't know what you assholes need to do. So he gets in there. He tries to broker some peace. He knew case.

And I guess Nelson had ran into him around socially. And he said, listen, I don't want these players getting in any trouble. I don't want any bad shit to happen. I don't know what to do here. Cason told Nelson that the chain had already been given away. We don't have the pouncy chain anymore,

basically. So Cason and Nelson ended up shaking hands and hugging and saying, okay, we're cool at that point. So, Kaysen and his friends took off in Squirt's car, a white Crown Vic, like probably an auction police car. Yeah. And the football players get in their own cars. They take off with Aaron Hernandez in tow.

All right? So, that should be the end of the night. Right. Right. No, it's not. So there's traffic as the Crown Vic that squirt is driving, goes down University Avenue. All the clubs have let out. So there's it's packed.

Remember, like after our show in Cincinnati, that's what I feel like it is, where it's all like a street packed with college kids. Every venue is a bar. That's what this is here. And is here and we're just like oh god I've never felt older if you're all over 27 you don't belong anywhere near this place you really don't well we're standing on a street corner telling young girls to keep an eye on their drinks oh my god this is after the show at Bogart's we actually did that there was these young girls walking by it's freezing they don't have nearly enough clothes on not for not for like you know for for modesty for actual temperature they look cold and they're like drunk and they're going into other bars we're like keep an eye on your drinks seriously watch each other's drinks

like we're telling them to we're giving them like all these delay hey you know yeah you keep an eye on her drink you keep an eye on hers let's teamwork ladies come on let's not get raped out there like we were so worried about these young girls we were you know yeah i mean it's it's we both have daughters and that's my picture i'm just like hey cover up and you, it's cold out. I mean, you can take it off when you get inside. I don't care. Shake your ass if you want.

Your ass. Whatever. Watch your drink first. Yeah. Get the drink from the bartender. Don't take it from him. And watch him make it, too. I don't trust anybody.

Be careful. Truth. Yeah. So anyway, either way, that's that's what was going on. And this is what's happening here. The three guys in the Crown Vic, they were headed to see a couple of women. So, hey, end of the night nicely. So windows down, everybody's going.

The opposite corner of where they are, there was kind of part of the Florida campus. Glass is driving the Crown Vic of Skort's car. campus. Glass is driving the Crown Vic of Squirt's car. He has a gun with him, a 9mm Taurus that had been stolen from the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. How you steal guns

from the Sheriff's Office? I have no fucking idea, but he stole a gun from the Sheriff's Office somehow, or someone did and he ended up with it. I don't know how that happens. Hey, Jacksonville, maybe lock those up. Be a little more careful with confiscated weaponry. So Randall Cason's in the backseat. He also has a Smith & Wesson.40 caliber.

So they're loaded up here. This gun also has the serial number filed off, which is the sign of a quality weapon as well. It's a sign of a very legit, legally purchased weapon. Absolutely. Every time you go purchase one, they go, One moment, sir. Can you pick this up tomorrow? We just got to file the serial number off real quick.

That's usually what happens at the gun shop. So Squirt is the only guy who doesn't have a gun. He's the only guy who doesn't want them to have guns. He's just like, fuck, either way. They're at a red light. Glass notices some girls next to him. He points them out. Hey, check this out.

There's girls, you know, blah, blah, blah. He also sees Cason's looks over and sees Reggie Nelson's Tahoe, a few cars behind them. So he thinks, oh, these motherfuckers are looking for us. They're back for more. They're following us. They're back for more beef. So he says that they're following us. The right was lights red.

It's bumper to bumper traffic. There's nothing you can do about it. It's not like you can pull away and peel off. So, I mean, they're stuck there. So he noticed two men on the sidewalk, Kasen said later on. He said he noticed Reggie Nelson and Aaron Hernandez on the sidewalk. So Kasen claims that Hernandez walked up to the crown Vic and looked inside in the car. Then he says Cason raised up his hand, shoved a gun through the window and fired it.

Oh, boy. Cason said he yelled. Blood was all over the fucking place. Oh, Jesus. And of course, out of the car, who gets shot out of these three? Obviously, it's got gotta be squirt it's of course it's squirt going hey guys young fellas let's calm down as he's shot in the face that's how this goes oh my god it's always that guy it's never the asshole it's always the guy who's like

come on guys let's let's relax here so he does that uh he's squirt slumps forward glass yells out that he's been hit in the arm. Glass jumps out of the car, and Cason jumps out after him. He's got his gun in his hand. He's running down the street. Cason had a bottle of beer in his lap that goes spilling everywhere. Cason's yelling, you killed my friend. They're all fucking running.

They said that Hernandez was already far away. He was running through a Holiday Inn parking lot by now, toward a McDonald's. Nelson also appeared to have fled, but Kaysen could see the Tahoe heading northbound on another street. So someone else must have taken the driver's seat. So at that exact moment, somebody in another car, completely unrelated to anything,

tossed a pack of firecrackers out the window into the street oh my god which people do all the time in this situation so they're popping so there was gunshots there's firecrackers popping nobody knows that there were if those were part of the firecrackers or yeah nobody really knows it's just mass confusion people are piling out of their cars some people are saying they were shooting some people are saying it's just firecrackers. People are running. It's a fucking mess. So either way, the bullet went into Squirt's brain.

They said, you know, at the time they said if he survived, it might, you know, he might not be able to. It might be a vegetable at this point. So they're witnessing. They get some witnesses at the scene. Yeah. quarter of a fucking inch long so impossible to cornrow so that's that's an issue there um but obviously eyewitnesses are the worst form of identification of anything so who the hell knows somebody might have seen that person running because they ran away from gunfire we have no idea so uh and either way um squirt was shot in the back of the head. Glasses shot in the arm. It's a fucking mess inside the car, obviously. There's blood everywhere.

It's a goddamn disaster. So Squirt goes to get an operation. They spend hours removing a bullet from him and performing a bone flap procedure. What the fuck is that? Sewing the part of Corey's skull that had been removed into his stomach where it would remain for the next nine months. Why would you do that? I guess then it grow. I don't know.

Grow the bone in your. I have no clue. Sandra asked who shot you. And squirt said that's his mother, Sandra. And he said two men were involved. He then he was trying. He couldn't really talk. He he said two men were involved um he then he was trying he couldn't really talk he just said two guys and then he he flipped his hand over to uh to show his uh to show his hand and he said it was like this at the palm of his hand not like this and the back of his hand so

he was saying light guy not a dark guy yeah he goes like that not like this so light skin so he flipped his hand over again showed him his palm and he said he was this color that's all he could get out he was that color which is exactly what aaron hernandez looks like not a dark skinned guy with cornrows but this so either way uh detectives they stop at the crime scene the hospital they're trying to figure out what the fuck happened. It's a mess. People are identifying 100 different people that were around. So it's a lot to go through.

It really is. So they're there. They're going through everything. Now, Kaysen described the shooter as a 6'3", 6'4", 240-pound Hawaiian or Hispanic man. Huh. Fair enough. Taylor Swift is soaring high, her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process. But along the way, Taylor has had to wage war, first by taking on a

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And he said the Pouncey twins were involved, too, even though they weren't around. He didn't see them. He just said this is an incident stemming from the Pouncey twins, so maybe talk to them, too. So it's a fucking mess. They talked to Urban Meyer. That's who the cops call next. Yeah. Urban Meyer. They talked to Urban Meyer. That's who the cops call next. Yeah. Urban Meyer.

They talked to his assistant. You don't even get to talk to Urban Meyer. If your players shoot a guy in the face, you talk to his assistant, uh, by six 30 in the morning, they, they're talking to the assistant and they said,

we need to talk to the Pouncey twins about an attempted murder that happened tonight. Um, she, uh, then they asked if,. Then they asked the assistant if he was aware of any white, Hispanic, or Hawaiian men the Pouncey twins might have been hanging out with.

And the assistant gave the detective the name of maybe Aaron Hernandez. That's the only light-skinned guy I can think of. So more phone calls go back and forth. The assistant said, you know, he's going to pick up Urban Meyer. He'll get back to you. We'll set up an interview with the Pounceys for you. This is all arranged very nicely. They call. They basically have to track these people down to try to get this interview with the Pounceys. And they're like, listen, we have to

figure all this shit out. They had to go through the university to find out about Aaron Hernandez. This is all shit that should have been done in like an hour and it's taking seconds. Two days. If you've ever seen the first 48 you want to progress through this shit quickly. They asked if they could get a picture of Aaron Hernandez. Do you have a

picture of him and all this type of shit. So either way case and they said the Gainesville Police Department said case and is a suspected gangbanger. He said Justin Glass was a wannabe gangbanger. And he said that Corey Smith Squirt was a civilian. That's not a gangbanger is what the Gainesville Police Department said. They said that Kaysen was the only one saying Hernandez was involved.

The shooter, according to every other uninvolved witness, was a black male, 5'8", with cornrows. Hernandez looks nothing like that. He's a very big guy. We knew that Kaysen had a credibility problem right off the bat. So they showed a picture. They showed Kaysen a photo lineup of six people, including Hernandez. He points Hernandez out, and so they they want to question him they question

they're questioning everybody basically trying to figure out how to get to Pouncey and Hernandez but there it's two days later they're still trying to get Pouncey and Hernandez in there to talk to them they said that the cops even said they can have lawyers that's no problem but the amount of time it took them to respond this is really really a serious case, a shooting where someone was supposed to die. Thank God he didn't. But in my eyes, a four and a half hour response time was pretty extraordinary and unacceptable. Truly. They all had to get.

Yeah. Urban Meyer wanted to hear the story first. Get their story straight together. Let's be fucking honest here. What are we talking about? Yeah. That's what happens with this shit. Allegedly. It's going fucking honest here. What are we talking about? Yeah. That's what happens with this shit, allegedly. How bad is this going to look on my school?

Yeah, absolutely. Am I going to get fired for this? So the cops also said, cops who were football fans knew that the Pounceys were promising. But I remember them talking about how soft they were physically, saying, wait till the strength coaches get a hold of them. They were big guys in stature, but soft Hernandez, on the other hand, was a physical specimen,

even at 17. So they get the pounces in there and Aaron Hernandez all placed in separate interviews, interview rooms here. So they get them in there. Basically they all have, you know, the desk and two,

you've all seen interrogation rooms. So they all do that. When they go in to talk to Hernandez, the police detective says, I was a little frustrated to walk in and see him sleeping. That's a bad sign. Sure is. It's like a corny trope at this point but that's the homicide detectives say your first sign that your guy is guilty is if they're sleeping in the interrogation room period innocent people don't get comfortable in an interrogation room they pace they fucking

look out the window they bang on the door what the fuck can i get that they don't want to be in there because they don't they know they don't belong in there. Guilty people go, well. Looks like this is the last time I'm ever leaving. They're just comfortable. This is the most comfortable room I'll ever be in in my life, probably. No one's trying to stick anything in my butt, so probably. So either way, she says that she moved on, this detective, to interviewing the Pounceys. Didn't wake Aaron up, so let's let him sleep a little bit here.

to interviewing the Pounceys didn't wake Aaron up. So let's let him sleep a little bit here. So Marquise tells the detective, Marquise Pouncey, that his brother and Aaron and a friend of theirs went to venue.

Around 1.30, a man snatched his thick gold chain off his brother Mike's neck. The chain was thick and was a large Jesus head as a medallion. Pouncey said the club was so crowded The chain was thick and was a large Jesus head as a medallion. Pouncey said the club was so crowded he couldn't see who snatched it.

Pouncey said after the club was closing, they were standing outside. A male walked up to them and said, I got your chain and pulled his shirt like he had a gun. Pouncey said there was such a crowd he couldn't be certain he had one, but his actions were, you know, that he looked like he had one. He said that the, um, uh, the black male also there, the other guy said, quote, I rule these streets, which is hilarious. I rule these streets. Pouncey said Pence Pouncey said he told Reggie Nelson about the chain incident. Nelson told them there's nothing he could do about it. Pouncey said Nelson spoke with, uh, with the male later on and told him nobody wanted any trouble. So Mike Pouncey said he left the venue around 1.30 and there's the chain thing that goes on and on.

He said that at one point Pouncey said he went to the parking lot where the guy who he thought had snatched the chain approached him. the parking lot where the guy who he thought had snatched the chain approached him he said quote i got something for you you need to stick to football and pulled out the chain and told him to come get it then the guy kept backing up but grabbing at his shirt like he had a gun so that's when reggie said no don't worry about it let's just get out of here and that's when they that's that's the two pouncey brothers stories is They basically are the same story. So they kind of line up, right? So both twins said that after the incident that Nelson and the twins and Aaron Hernandez went to a campus restaurant. And then after that, about 20 or 30 minutes, they spent – they got some food.

Then they went to get other food at a Checkers restaurant they ate twice in a row um they said this was about 2 30 in the morning afterwards they went back to their apartment and um there was that now there is a discrepancy in the twin statement marquis says that hernandez was with them the whole time mike says that says that Hernandez left the checkers before them at about three in the morning. So they have a little discrepancy there. So either way, Reggie Nelson's also getting interviewed. Reggie Nelson says that Aaron Hernandez had been the one who told him about case and snatching Pouncey's chain outside the club. Pouncey had pointed out case and as the guy who snatched a chain, Nelson knew him, spoke with him, said that the chain had already been given away. And that's all that stuff that we told you about.

So the detective then, you know, they all talk about this. And they're going in trying to figure out how to go at Hernandez at this point since he's the one who's been accused of being a shooter. So finally, they go in to interview Hernandez. He's still sleeping. Two hours he's sleeping on a desk. Two hours of a nap. So as soon as they open the door, he pops up awake. They read him as Miranda writes.

They're not sure about case and statement. They're not really believing that. So they read him as Miranda writes, though, sure about case and statement they're not really believing that so um they read him as miranda writes though just in case and hernandez says to them they said that you know they don't think he did anything they're just trying to verify and get him out of here basically hernandez says i'm not going to say anything i want my lawyer present i'm sorry my lawyer told me to say that so marquise nelson who's an nfl, and the two Pouncey brothers who are on the team both spoke openly about this. No problem. He goes in, goes to sleep, and then says, I want my lawyer.

That's so bad. Now, wanting your lawyer is a good way to approach this, but this is all kind of being handled back channel, so it's an odd approach. You know what I mean? It's interesting. But looking at it the other side, maybe he's sleepy because he's been up all night and he knows he did nothing wrong. And so he's like, I don't care. I'm just going to have him talk to my lawyer anyway.

I'm going to take a nap. Wow. Yeah. I don't know if they think I shot somebody and I'm in an interrogation room. I'm up. I'm awake. I can't wait to tell people how much I didn't shoot somebody. Like I want a lawyer after that, but I'm getting out.

I didn't shoot anybody, motherfucker. Check my fucking hands for that. Run the test on me. I didn't shoot a motherfucking soul. I'd be screaming it in there. I want to go home so I can sleep. This is bullshit. I'm so tired.

I'm so tired. So instead he does that. They interview a bunch of other eyewitnesses and everything else. Every person identified the shooter as a black man with cornrows, green polo shirt, under six feet tall and slim. No one except for Kaysen said anything about a Hawaiian, a Hispanic, a big guy, none of that shit. So they end up interviewing interviewing case and again and case and said at that point he admitted that he assumed hernandez had been the shooter he assumed it because of the incident at the club he said he hadn't seen who the shooter was in reality he just assumed it was aaron hernandez

so he said that he balled himself up inside the crown Vic trying not to get shot. And basically he said, I take back my Aaron Hernandez thing. I just thought it was him, but I didn't see him actually. So they got nowhere on that. No one ever ends up being charged for it. It's just an incident that's a fucking mess. The guy lived? The guy lived, yeah, and no one ever gets charged for it. And they got an $80,000 chain out of it. That it. And they got an $80,000 chain out of it.

That's it. Someone got an $80,000 chain out of it. So either way, that year Aaron plays in 13 games. He's a freshman. He only has nine receptions for 151 yards and two touchdowns. But that's good for a freshman. They're happy with that. Not bad.

2008 Florida Gators go 13-1. 13-1 here. Let's see here. They win the BCS championship game against Oklahoma 24-14. And win the national championship. Tim Tebow quarterback. Cam Newton's a third stringer now. He's not even a backup anymore.

Somebody else. So they're kicking him down to there um tim himself uh who'd they win oh oklahoma in the bowl game let's see 2008 um aaron himself here he plays in all 13 games 34 receptions 381 yards five touchdowns this year fantastic doing much better 2009 florida they go 13 and 1 uh they win the sugar bowl 51 to 24 against cincinnati they're third in the ap poll so they're they're third that year but still damn good season aaron 14 games he plays in 68 receptions for 850 yards and five touchdowns that year he wins the mackie award given to the college football's top tight end. So he's the best tight end in football, and he decides time to go for the NFL draft. Fuck this.

I'm not getting any better than this. So this is grace for college football career here. So he does. 40-yard dash, by the way, quickly. He does a pro day. He doesn't do the combine. Okay. So I have some stats here.

The 40-yard dash, 4.64. Wow. Pretty good for a big tight end like that. That's fast as shit. That's fast. He'd be a great linebacker, I'm telling you. Shit, yeah. Let's see here.

In the 40-yard dash, he ran 17.63 miles an hour. My God. Not bad, right? That's pretty cool. His vertical leap, 33 inches, which is... Shit. He can dunk, man. That's not bad at all.

245 pounds. Not bad. Straight-up athlete. Great athlete. And by the way, I found they have tight end success factors, and they have several of them. Faster than a 4.75 40-yard dash. Broad jump 110 inches or more. He broad jumped 111 inches.

So he gets that. His dash time was lower. And vertical leap 32 inches or higher, which he's involved in. And 6'2 inches or taller, which he's about 6'2, so that's fine. Not bad. He's the guy they're looking for. Wow. Every last one. They know. These teams, this is a multimillion-dollar investment. They send investigators there to talk to everybody. Some waitress at some bar, they talk to her, and they go, is that guy an asshole? Is he pinching people's asses? Is he starting fights?

They want to know. They'll still draft the guy, but they want to know what they're drafting. So they said there's a lot of rumors about his gang activities. According to Ian Rappaport, the guy for the Boston Herald, he says that he called Hernandez probably the most talented guy in the draft, but there was obvious questions going on. One was, is he in a gang? That was an obvious legitimate concern. Did he have gang ties? What was his off-the-field life like?

He definitely got into some trouble at Florida, and drug use was another part of it. He failed a couple drug tests in Florida. Florida said one. The Patriots said one. I was told it was four. That's not good. Four. Jesus Christ.

One of the guys around this said, quote, he failed a ton of drug tests. But look, 75% of the NFL smokes weed. The big thing is, is the guy going to be able to pass a drug test when he's in the pros? In other words, is he so stupid that he smokes weed when he knows he's not supposed to? Because they test him at the beginning of the year. Then do whatever you want. Or is it the other thing? You know what I mean?

Is he a dumb shit? So he said, there's probably a dozen guys in every draft who have gang ties. It's not uncommon. Sometimes it's serious. Other times it's friends they're loyal to and they can separate and compartmentalize. Aaron's background wasn't completely bizarre, but it was enough to knock him down some in the draft. We'll talk about that. His Wunderlich score, which is, we've talked about this before.

If you don't know what the Wunderlich is, it's a test that they give the guys it's 50 questions you have to do it in a certain amount of time and it's kind of everyday stuff logic stuff it's kind of like a it's kind of like an iq test for not iq not abstract things but like real shit like technical shit making change at this time you know quick critical thinking is what it is which for a quarterback or a middle linebacker is very important shows you like five pulleys one they show you the direction one turns then you got to figure out which way another one turns yeah it's like an iq test but practical almost so uh he scores a 17 on this out of 50 that's not good which is not great just to give you a quick thing here's some guys

lately um jesus lamar jackson had a 13 holy shit right a 13 god damn it baker mayfield had a 25 he doesn't seem that bright either um josh allen had a 37 he was apparently pretty pretty smart that kid um yeah the what was it fitzpatrick got the 50 the guy years ago who went to harvard with the big beard um fitzpatrick yeah yeah ryan fitzpatrick running backs usually the quarterbacks you want high running backs you don't care um yeah at all fullbacks fullbacks usually have good scores too for some reason i noticed that here's a couple of fullbacks a lot they lead with their head for christ's sake. They block like crazy. But they only do it like three times a game where the running back does it fucking 38 times.

No, the fullback has to block on every damn down. A lot of times the running back is a fucking halfback. It'll be just going out on a pass pattern if it's one of those or something. But the fullbacks, they seem to be smarter offensive linemen. Wide receivers, they range here. Here's a couple guys with 15 dante pettis had a 32 that's not bad um tight ends they seem to range there's a lot of big tight end discrepancy here with everything offensive linemen are pretty high guards pretty high centers are very high because

they have a lot to do um defensive linemen can be dumb yeah they don't mind if you're dumb if you're a defensive lineman um uh edge rusher you can be dumb too but some of the guys are still pretty fucking smart looking at this linebackers who is this rashaun evans 24 raquan smith 24 a lot of linebackers in the 20s in the mid 20s here uh who was this safety 30 i was looking for a crazy score but there really isn't any ones that stand out as like insane but 17 is not great right but for a tight end they don't really give a shit if he's got all the physical stuff gromp can't count to 17 can you imagine his good lord it had to be terrible it's a six it's got to be nothing right well it's probably like a fuck it's probably like a three and that's only because he didn't finish.

Because by the end of it, he's like, hey, bro, I ate my pencil. Is that? I ate it, like, I don't know, like halfway through it, I guess. I had three questions. I got a little hungry. The pencil, I started chewing on it. By the time I was done, I didn't have any pencil left. I just ate it all.

What do you want? I was chewing on the eraser, and then I realized, I don't know, halfway through the pencil, the eraser was really hard. Bro, I had that metal piece in my mouth for a while, but I just spit it out. You know, but I kept going. You know how it is. Wood's fiber. Do I get two extra points because it was a number two pencil?

Come on. So he is described on his psychological profile as having good intelligence, despite having shitty grades at Florida. He didn't care about fucking school. A synopsis of a report provided to Fox Sports depicted Hernandez as, quote, passionate toward football with a fun personality. He gets along with all types of different

people. He sounded like a regular guy who was a baller, one of the executives said. He was not a good student but he was a smart enough guy. So, 2010 NFL draft, number one draft pick, Jimmy. 2010, Cam Newton. Sam Bradford. I was close.

Sam Bradford. That's not a great pick. That fucking kid, man. And then in Dominick and Sue and Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams, Eric Berry. A lot of pro bowlers in this. C.J. Spiller, Jason Pierre-Paul in this one. Pouncey, Marquise Pouncey, number 18 overall as well. Des Bryant to the Cowboys.

Demarius Thomas to the Broncos. Hell yeah. It's a lot of Devin McCourty to the Patriots. A lot of decent players in this one. Second round, Dexter McCluster. Gronkowski goes in the second round. Is that right? Yeah, so the Patriots pick Gronkowski goes in the second round. Is that right? Yeah, so the Patriots pick Gronk and Hernandez in this draft.

The same draft. Same draft, two rounds apart, as we'll talk about here. Then in the fourth round, a third round, Jimmy Graham goes as well. So this was chock full of tight end talent, this draft here. Great tight ends. Yeah, you can get all two really good tight ends in the second and third round, which isn't bad at all. Then in the fourth round, finally here, Jesus Christ, at pick 113 in the fourth round, the New England Patriots select Aaron Hernandez. So there you go.

Not too high, not too low. Why so low, though? He was expected to go so much higher based on his physical ability. He's a gangster. Well, they believed it was largely from failed drug tests, and some NFL teams were advised that he may have developed

a substance abuse problem during college, and they should kind of lay off him. So between that and the gangs, some of the teams just backed off. He ends up with an entry-level deal, four years at $2,378,000. That's what he gets total. For a boy from Bristol, that's fantastic.

That's $1,000, $2,378,000. $200,000 signing bonus. Average salary, $594,500. And he's going back to New England. This is fucking enormous for him. That's a problem, yeah. He would have been much better if he. This is fucking enormous for him. That's a problem. Yeah. He would have been much better if he was like just Kansas City drafted him.

Or Seattle or somebody like that. Going back to New England and be able to hang out with his friends is not good for him at all. We always have one of the crime in sports rules is don't go home. Right. This is why. Not good. So 2010, he comes on to New England. We all know who was on that team tom brady and

this was in the middle of their dry run because we always talk about them like they're they were a continuing dynasty for like 20 years when it's not like that actually if you look at what happened they won a bunch of super bowls till 2005 then from 2005 they didn't win another one till 2015 so right a whole decade went by with them not winning the Super Bowl, which normally you wouldn't connect that as the same dynasty. Right. You know what I mean? But the fact that it had the same coach and quarterback, nobody else. Just keep it going.

They just said it was the same team, which it wasn't. So it's kind of more impressive because it's two separate dynasties actually. Right. yeah. So if you look at it that way, it's kind of more impressive, but still it's interesting. Anyway, so the Patriots here, they go 14-2 that year. Jesus Christ. First in the AFC East, and then in the first round of the playoffs, they lose to the Jets, which was wonderful. I hate the Jets, but that was great.

That was fucking great. 28-21, they lose that year. Is that Pennington or is that Ryan Fitzgerald? No, it's Pennington. That is Mark Sanchez, I believe, as a matter of fact. Is that right? That year. Or was Mark Sanchez the next year?

I can't remember. I believe it's Mark Sanchez. I know that he beat them maybe the next year or this year. That's hysterical. Yeah, there you go. Either way, not a not a tom brady at behind the center there so he plays in 14 games aaron does he starts seven of them 45 receptions for 563 yards and six touchdowns unreal not bad that's good for a rookie yeah

especially when gronkowski's on the other side right a goddamn good target so 2011 patriots they go 13 and 3 this year and uh hell of a year seasons they only lost five fucking games isn't that wild and they've won 27 that's believable that's crazy they beat the broncos 45 to 10 in the divisional round jesus that's's a thumping. They beat the Ravens 23-20. They always played those games close. They play them 23-20. They beat them. They go all the way to the Super Bowl against the super underdog Giants

who are supposed to get the shit kicked out of them. But for the second time in four years, they were supposed to lose to them and didn't and beat the Patriots 21-17. It was wonderful. It was magical. That was the tyree catch that was just great ah that was fucking fantastic i'm a giants fan so i enjoyed that one so um either way this year uh by the way he changed his uniform number from 85 to 81 this year really remember that somebody that? Yeah, he changed his jersey. Oh, he changed it. So he came in at 85 and went to 81? 2010, he wore 85.

2011, he wore 81. What is that? I think some receiver came in and wanted 85, so I'm sure he sold it to him or something. Probably got paid, yeah. So he plays in 14 games, starts 12 this year, 79 receptions, which is a shitload for a tight end. That's amazing, yeah. That's a lot. 910 yards and seven touchdowns. That's goddamn good.

And averaging 11. That's wide receiver numbers. Yeah, averaging 11.5 yards a catch for a tight end. That's great. You hit him. He averages a first down every time you hit him. That's terrific. So the offseason comes up. The Patriots have liked what they've seen, and they say,

God damn it, we have a future with this young man yeah the future here is a seven year 39 million 582 000 contract they signed oh fuck yeah not bad total guaranteed is 15 million 950 that's obviously, but still not too fucking bad. 12 million, $500,000 signing bonus. Jesus Christ paid. Aaron is fucking paid right now. That said, he's got everything.

He should be. How happy, how fucking good would you be feeling right now? Fuck the Superbowl. This is great. This is all I'd be doing is worrying about what i'm eating and like football stuff and like i would be so happy and instead he's got he's a little unsettled he's got shit he's got to do and one of the things here we'll

talk about let's talk about a guy named alexander bradley a buddy of his okay alexander bradley uh lives in massachusetts he's a friend of his um He becomes a good friends with Aaron Hernandez through weed, basically. So that's how this works. The there's all sorts of friends that he he's still hanging out. Aaron's still hanging out with his cousin, Tanya, and hanging out with people like that they uh tanya had recently gotten married and so he's hanging out with them and then he's hanging out with guys like alexander bradley bradley's a big giant tall guy um but he's a real smart guy and everything like that he's a big time weed dealer bradley at the time selling like large amounts of weed um he'd been busted in the past for like weed and coke and the salt and all sorts of shit like that. You know, your basic general drug dealing dickhead. Yeah.

But he's just a nice guy who sells weed. Now everybody says not fucking with anybody. Just sells weed. Doesn't sell Coke anymore. Uh, but they get along really great. Apparently the first time they met Hernandez wanted weed, but didn't have any cash on him. So Bradley said, tell you you what here's an ounce on the house for you hey which is a hell of a nice gesture now this is a good amount of weed and uh

that'll build you some goodwill with people that'll create a customer that comes back you give me an ounce i am gonna be your buddy so i'll tell you what so bradley said i used to give him credit for weed all the time said he had cash on him he didn't have much money before he got drafted i loaned him money i wound up getting into it with my girl over hanging out with him so much i wasn't around as much she was like if you want to hang out with your boy hang out with your boy but this isn't going to work with us jesus christ that's hanging out with him a lot holy fuck you want pussy or a weed friend? Apparently he's looking for a weed friend. They would hang out and smoke and play video games for hours.

He's a child. Yeah, they're just hanging out. And then I guess when he moved back to New England, Hernandez moved back to New England to become a part of the Patriots. They saw each other even more often. Three, four times a week they would hang out, do all this shit. They would gamble together. They'd go to the Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun, the Patriots. They saw each other even more often. Three, four times a week they would hang out, do all this shit. They would gamble together. They'd go to the Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun, the casinos. They'd go to clubs in Boston and Hartford and all this type of shit.

Hernandez even took Bradley on vacation to Miami with him. What? He must have great weed. Bradley said, we were definitely best friends by 2012. He said that they would hang out. Bradley said he often stayed in the basement guest bedroom of Hernandez's home in Boston. Yeah, he said it started as a business relationship a couple years before that, just selling weed to him. But after the birth of Hernandez's daughter in 2012, Bradley was her godfather.

Is that right? Yeah, he just had his, Bradley was her godfather. Is that right? Yeah, he just had his weed guy be the godfather. I wonder if I can get an ounce out of that, he's figuring. Making him a godfather to my baby has got to get me something, right? Three ounce? That's how important you are to my life. That's really important. Bradley said that Aaron used to chain smoke weed.

Like people chain smoke cigarettes, he'd chain smoke weed. Smoke as much as an ounce a day. An ounce of weed a day? Okay, that can't be like great weed, though. I'm sorry. You can't be smoking like 30% THC shit an ounce a day because you'd sleep a good amount of that time. You'd be real tired. You'd just be sober. That's so so much it's a lot of fucking weed you'd never be sober that's a lot of weed um i love weed and i smoke a ton of weed i don't smoke an ounce a day until you

don't that would be like smoking until weed doesn't affect you anymore yeah that's just chain smoking big blunts that's all that's all is. Big old blunts back to back to back. I can see if you have 30 people you're hanging out with, like you have an entourage and it's getting passed around the room. But if you're sitting playing video games by yourself with one other dude, an ounce a day is too much weed. So he said that he used to sell Aaron up to four ounces of weed like a week, and he charged him about 300 an ounce for this. Okay. weed like a week and he charged him about 300 an ounce for this okay he said on sunday nights they would go to cure lounge which was a nightclub in boston and um you know it was a big fucking like fancy place and uh people would recognize aaron hernandez and stare at him because you

know he just got drafted by the local football team so they're looking at him he said that bradley would say he would ask me why don't people stare at you like that i would respond to him pretty much because i'm not you i'm not on the fucking nfl on fox dog nobody no one knows who i am that's why you're catching balls from tom brady that's why your pictures in the fucking everywhere and these people know when you have eight touchdowns last year they all all go, holy shit, they remember all those touchdowns. Oh my God, just strongly, James. He must be gay because he doesn't want people to look at him because he's living a lie.

He's afraid they can see it. Yeah. I think it's not just gay. I think it's a lot of things. I think he's hiding a lot inside. A lot. He's hiding a lot of who he is at all times and he thinks that people could see through it. Bradley said he didn't like it when people

stared at him. He felt like they were trying him. What I would usually say was, you're a famous NFL player. That's what's going to happen. It's not that big of a deal. In other words, I would try to explain to him that people weren't trying him all the time. It's just the situation, the position he was in, and he didn't need to overreact all the time to that type of scenario but he thought that aaron was always paranoid he said that um the average person wouldn't be bothered this much but yeah he would fucking freak out he said that it started to seem like every time they went out bradley would have to step in and stop aaron from beating somebody up that was just because they looked at him you're not even cut out to be out in public man no that's the thing he should stay home and smoke weed

play video games that's fine that's a fine existence it keeps you out of trouble it's probably better for you than if you're out boozing it up all night on your body it's probably easier so who knows to be a he wants to be a normal person he wants to be a an asshole he wants to be a shithead, and he's upset that he can't be a shithead to the extent he wants to be a shithead. He wants to be a blue-collar dock worker, but instead he's got all the money in the world. Yeah, he wants to be a gangbanger is what he wants to be. That's what he's into. He said that the average person wouldn't be this pissed off. He said he acted in a manner like a tough guy all the time.

He had a problem with things that most people just don't have a problem with which makes sense a few months after the super bowl they were at a place in boston called rumor and uh aaron said he saw a guy staring at him so he said what are you looking at the guy said i'm looking at you yeah i know who you are jesus christ so hernandez got up in a guy's face and the guy said you lost me a ton of money on the super bowl okay well i mean that's he's not responsible for your fucking dumb shit bet yeah sorry he's not responsible for that so anyway either he's not responsible for the patriots offensive line not being able to fucking stop a four-man pass rush. He's not responsible for that.

He just isn't. Well, actually, he's part of that offensive line, so he kind of is. Never mind. I'm also sorry Tyree's got great hands. Yeah, sorry about the luckiest play in the history of football. I don't know what to tell you. But the Giants sucked, and they should have beat them by 30 points, so it's their fault for being within fucking striking distance. And that catch didn't score points.

You also left Laxko Burris plenty of room, so let's not talk about this. Also had to drop one over Burris' shoulder, which was pretty goddamn perfectly placed at the end of the game. So it all happened. Either way, the room got tense. Shit got tense. Bradley stepped in, and Hernandez walked away. They did all that kind of thing.

So that's the type of stuff that would happen all the time. He would. And in exchange, Aaron would give Bradley Patriots tickets and then Bradley would keep him supplied with weed. So that's how it worked. They had a real nice relationship here. Four ounces a week about is what Aaron would go through, which is QP a week is a lot, man. That's a lot. That's so much weed.

That's a pound a month. That's a shitload of weed, man. Holy shit. A quarter is a lot for a week is a lot man that's a lot that's so much weed that's a pound a month that's a shit load of weed man holy shit a quarter it's a lot for a week i mean you're you're you're sparsing it by friday it's getting low but a fucking an ounce a day four ounces four ounces of weed that's insane oh my god he said that he would uh bradley Bradley said he would drop Aaron off at his cousin Tanya's house, and then Hernandez would basically stay, hang out, and smoke weed for days with Tanya and her friends and shit like that. He said also Bradley would service Hernandez's cars. He'd also do his shopping and supply him with guns as well when he needed guns.

A hell of an assistant. He's basically a personal assistant. Yeah. He said, Bradley said he felt like people thought he was soft or something and he was out to prove something. He was fed up with the whole feeling as if people were trying him situation, so he wanted a firearm to protect himself in the event that people fucked with him, basically.

He said that Bradley ended up saying that he said he was tested most often in Boston because people recognized him in Boston. That's all. If he went to Indianapolis, well, they might because they hate the Patriots there. But if he went to Jacksonville, no one would know who the fuck he was. So relax. He said in the Cure area, that's the club, he said that's where he was on heightened alert all the time. One guy who was a promoter for the Cure Lounge, he said that he met Aaron during his rookie year, and over time, he grew to consider him a good friend. He said that this promoter said he took care of several Patriots who went out clubbing.

He said from time to time, he'd ask female patrons if they wanted to meet one of the football players or another one. So, yeah, try to hook him up. one of the football players or another one so yeah try to hook him up he said that uh uh hernandez could be paranoid and super aggressive and that he became more paranoid and more aggressive as time went by uh this promoter said i've seen him punch people i've seen him do everything five times ten times he'd smack people punch them in the head and get violent with them but because he was intimidating and on the patriots they would fucking he'd get away with it. This promoter said they would just walk away after he hit them. So it's fucking crazy.

He said Hernandez even picked a fight with him, the promoter. He said the promoter had spotted Hernandez, Bradley and another guy walking into the cure. And he approached to see if there was anything he could do for him to help him out so London said is everything cool do you need anything you up for a table and Hernandez said quote you're a fed you're a snitch get the fuck away from me what the fuck is he smoking too much no he's getting hit in the head too much there you go yeah he's getting hit in the head too much i believe anyway i mean it's probably not helping whatever's going on in his brain now it's getting swirled in with other things i don't think he should have any substances

in him whatsoever i mean at all here he said it took me by surprise this is the promoter because obviously i'm neither the bouncers came over because they saw me and I was in shock. His two boys came over to me and I was trying to explain to them what is he talking about. As he often did, Bradley stepped in to cool the situation here, obviously. But this was kind of a normal thing for Aaron. That's how it works. So early summer 2012, Aaron gives Alexander $350, which he uses to buy a.357 gun. So it was a silver with a brown handle, had a couple rounds in the chamber when he bought it. Who would buy a gun that already has a couple rounds in the chamber?

No. A gun is not supposed to have, it's supposed to be empty when you buy it. Yeah, I don't know if someone was just shooting that at somebody or some shit. Who's buying that? Why is it not fully loaded or entirely empty? What's happening? Yeah, so Aaron got the gun. He liked it.

Then a few weeks later, in July of 2012, Hernandez meets Bradley at Bradley's place, and they go out. So it's a Sunday night. They go out here in the summer. They had a few drinks, smoked some blunts, talked about where they're going to go. They said they're going to the Cure. That's where that one promoter is. They walk to the car. Bradley noticed that Hernandez was holding a gun as they're walking to the car.

He said that Aaron did not have club clothes with him, so Bradley loaned him jeans, a t-shirt, and a Cardinals hat. They walked out to Aaron's 4Runner, which he got for free, by the way, as a Toyota dealership endorsement thing here. Aaron pops the hood and stuffs the gun down in the engine block like a true pro, like a fucking gangster. So he does that then they drive they go to boston they go into a parking garage whatever they go to the cure so a group a group of friends are ahead of them here um i'm not going to name all these people because it's just a shitload of names to keep straight but all these guys are showing their, paying the fee and all that. Aaron and Bradley step into the VIP line, basically. No cover, skip the line, all that shit.

But the Cure, the club, had a policy, no hats. Yeah. No exceptions, even for Patriots players. No hats. Leave that dumb St. Louis Cardinals hat out here. We can only hope it was St. Louis Cardinals and not a fucking Phoenix Cardinals cardinals yeah well no i was gonna say you can't have another nfl team's hat can you yeah so he uh they both had to give their hats to the bouncers aaron wasn't happy about that gave the bouncer a hard time then they went into the bar so there's two guys in here um uh daniel diabreu and sephiro furtado they're

hanging out um they wanted to go out that night they both had worked all week they're they actually have real jobs and shit like that um so they went there it was very crowded hernandez and bradley would order their drinks two at a time a shot shot of something and another mixed drink, Bradley would say. That's what they did. They downed the shots and they'd walk around on the dance floor with the cocktails type of deal. That was their plan. So this Diabreu had to hold his drink up high. He does that.

He bumps into Aaron Hernandez with his hip. Oh, no. Now, Bradley said that the bump was intentional intentional he said he bumped him in rhythm as if it was part of the dance oh like bumped into him right but uh aaron spilled his drink so he got super pissed off and um he turned around got mad at abreu bradley said he turned angrily in a manner which in which he was going to make a confrontation out of the issue. Now, this Diabreu didn't know who the fuck Aaron Hernandez was, and he just smiled. He was just like, hi, I'm sorry.

He was just trying to be friendly. This pissed Aaron off even more. He wasn't terrified of him. You know what I mean? So Bradley decided he needed to go get on top of it fast. He grabbed Aaron's shirt, and he said, no, no, let's get out of here. He said, I knew something was brewing. His temper, the way he was, I just knew something would happen.

Hernandez told, he told Aaron, don't worry about it. Let's go. Let's go. Aaron said, okay, fine, fine. So they left the club. This was less than 10 minutes after they got there. They went all the way there for 10 minutes. All right.

Outside, he starts fucking getting mad. Aaron says, I hate it when people try me. than 10 minutes after they got there they went all the way there for 10 minutes all right outside he starts fucking getting mad aaron says i hate it when people try me i hate it when they try to play me blah blah blah he's all fucking pissed off whatever so he said come on let's just get the fuck out of here bradley saying let's go so then a promoter who worked at another club recognized aaron and said hey come on over here I'll give you a table service. And yeah, you know, all this shit. They said, no,

that's a crowded, ugly scene. Yeah. Come on over in here. Yeah. We'll make a spectacle out of you in here and you can fight someone. So they said no, but then they walked up to the,

they went into the club and walked up and ordered drinks anyway. So then, um, Aaron, Aaron told Bradley that the guys that they ran into at the cure had followed them in there. He said, see, see, there you go. Now, not true, though.

It wasn't where they were. Aaron thought they had gone to see them. But Bradley said, those aren't the guys, bro. You're totally wrong. And Aaron said, no, those are the fucking guys. And he's like, no, they're not. Those aren't the guys, dude. Totally different guys.

Leave it alone. So now Bradley had to convince him to leave this club because he was going to go attack those guys who weren guys dude totally different guys no leave it alone um so now bradley had to convince him to leave this club because he was going to go attack those guys who weren't even the same guys and never saw him before so they get back into the car they drive around the block on a side street they pull over they smoke some weed then hernandez pops the hood and takes the gun out of the engine block why puts it in the glove compartment they drive back out of the engine block. Why? Puts it in the glove compartment. They drive back out of the street. They park just beyond the garage they were in earlier, and they waited for the clubs to get out. So there is Destiny Fawn, is her name, a drag queen in the Boston Theater District, was working that night as the DJ at a club called Underbar.

That club closes. She and her friend decide to go for Chinese food. As they're leaving, they bump into Aaron Hernandez. So Destiny said, I don't know who Aaron Hernandez was, but my friend did, recognized him, and all that kind of shit. So Bradley said that they're waiting outside. Bradley said, oh, we're just hanging out here trying to meet some women. But while they did that, who walks up? Daniel DiAbreu and the other guy that he was with from Cure.

So Aaron shouts out, there they go, there they go, right? And he runs back to the forerunner. Oh, Jesus. Bradley gets behind the wheel, sees a silver BMW drive past them with the two guys inside, and Aaron says, go, go, go, go. So 2.19 in the morning, the guys they were looking for here, Diabreu, Furtado, and the friend of theirs, were walking toward the garage where they had parked the BMW. They were going to circle around, pick up another friend of theirs outside of the nightclub.

That was the point. So they pulled back around. Diabreu was driving. Furtado in the passenger seat. Other guy in the back. Two other guys hop in because they had gone around the block to get him. They're working there. There's two security guards from one of the bars.

It was closing time there. They say that they're walking a promoter to their car, and they're walking there. They said it was a warm night, but it was quiet. There were no cars. There were no people. The guy goes, it was like a sci-fi movie with papers blowing around. Usually folks are out. Taxis are waiting.

But we went down to our car, started it. I was driving. Brian, who was one of the guys they're with, is in the passenger seat. Out of the blue in the rearview mirror, I see this car come whizzing up on the passenger side of our vehicle. It comes out of nowhere, pulls up to our car two or three feet away from our car. I said to Brian, who's that? Is that someone we know? Because we know a lot of people.

We figured maybe it was someone playing a joke. But Brian looked up at the driver and said, no, I don't think we know him. Leaning over Bradley, Cause Bradley's driving. Aaron's leaning over him, looks down into the car that they pulled around. Um, he expected to see the guys he was looking at, but he didn't.

He saw this other, cause they're looking for a silver car. It's a silver BMW. This is a silver Saturn. Oh, geez. So he thinks he's got the right car, different car.

So they keep going. So they end up gunning it. Aaron says, he's got the right car. It's a wildly different car. So they keep going. So they end up gunning it. Aaron says, not them. Let's go. So these men sitting in their Saturn watch the forerunner speed up and go up to the next car. And one of the guys in the Saturn says, the next thing we heard was gunfire. My first reaction was to look in the rearview mirror. I didn't see anything.

Then I said to Brian, where is that coming from? And the guy pointed to the SUV that was next to them earlier. He said it's coming from the car up there. As Bradley and Hernandez caught up with the BMW, he looked over and saw that.

Hernandez leaned down his leaned over to Bradley's seat and said, roll down your window over to Bradley's seat and said roll down your window and Bradley reclined and Hernandez braced his left hand on an armrest and stuck the gun out of the driver's window. Oh boy. So inside

to Bray you and Furtado were looking at their phone. Hernandez said yo nobody looked then he said yo again they turned and Hernandez said what what's up now? And word and fucking popped off five gunshots at him. Apparently, my God, Bradley said Hernandez emptied the chamber. Unbelievable glass everywhere.

People screaming. Hernandez told Bradley to gun it. Fucking let's go. So, yeah, they stopped at a red light. The guy in the car said he remember stopping at a red light and then an SUV pulled up close right next to us, said what he said. And that was that was that there was gunfire. The guy in the car said we were still at the red light. As soon as the red light turned green, we drove toward the car that was sitting there.

This is the guys from the Saturn in the back. The SUV had already taken off. And as we pulled up to the car, the first thing we saw was that there was blood all over the side of the car. There was glass in the street. We kind of knew what we were going to find, so we pulled up cautiously. Both the driver and the passenger had been shot. They both had their seatbelts on. You could tell that the passenger's chest was not going up and down for air. Both of their heads were on the headrests and the passenger's eyes were closed.

The driver's eyes were actually open. He was still breathing, labored breathing. At that point, two individuals jumped from the back of the car, one from the left passenger side, one from the right. The first thing they did when they got out was to pat themselves down to see if they got hit by anything. They got out and were like, oh, fuck, do I have any holes, basically. The next thing they did was to pat themselves down to see if they got hit by anything. They got out and were like, Oh fuck, do I have any holes? Basically. Um,

the next thing they did was to start coming toward our vehicle. One of them came toward our vehicle. I had my window down and he was just saying, can you help us help us please help us. So, um, yeah, they said that they walking around trying to get help and all this sort of

thing. Um, so far, the Sifiro guy had been shot in the head and he was already dead in the passenger seat for tato for tato is dead daniel diabre who's trying to speak um one of the guys from the silver saturn said he was dying he was trying to say something but he didn't i was trying to tell him just keep strong we're looking we're going to get help for you um he said that daniel lasted for minutes, maybe a minute, and he died as well.

So yeah, they said all of a sudden these guys jumped out of the car and stopped us and asked us for help. It was crazy. People are shot all over the place. Bradley said that Hernandez said, did you see that? I think I got one of them in the head

and one in the chest. He said that Aaron took off the T-shirt that Bradley had loaned him and used it to wipe down the gun. Said that they were just driving around. Bradley said that they were in a state of shock. They talked about going to Aaron's place, but they ended up going to a place in Hartford. It was a place where Bradley's baby's mama lives. They were going there. It's five o'clock in the morning.

They get there. mama lives they were going there it's five o'clock in the morning they get there um this this lady lived on the third floor of a third floor walk-up uh in a small two-bedroom kind of attic like apartment um they as soon as she and bradley were alone bradley told her quote this crazy motherfucker just did some stupid shit yeah he is nuts no shit a Aaron was hanging out in the living room. At some point, he knocked on the door and asked to use her laptop. Hey, you got a laptop? Bradley handed it over along with a blanket and a pillow for Aaron. Before doing this, though, Aaron ran a few searches on Brooke's computer, checking to see if news outlets were reporting on a shooting in Boston. He was already looking what the fuck for

news reports of it um the the young lady here said she woke up at eight and got into the shower but at times she got out she said tanya singleton his aaron's cousin was standing in her kitchen she said that uh she and aaron were whispering this woman said she'd never met tanya before but she and aaron seemed so intimate so she assumed that she was aaron's fiancee but it's his cousin um when they when this woman left for work tanya was still there when she got home alexander bradley was there but aaron tanya and the forerunner were all gone yeah two weeks after the shooting um Aaron Hernandez, it's July 27th, Aaron Hernandez reports to Gillette Stadium in Foxborough for the start of training camp. They're just asking about, you know, all this type of shit.

Yeah, Gronk had a bunch of off-season stuff where he did a bunch of pictures with, like, porn stars wearing his jersey. Remember that whole controversy? Yes, that whole shit. So they said, heyaron was your was your summer as crazy as grunks you got no idea aaron said more private but i still had some fun i had some fun i did shoot some murder two people so uh holy fuck now they're obviously the cops are still investigating it's a double homicide so they're obviously the cops are still investigating. It's a double homicide. So they're definitely looking into that.

Um, all they have is that, uh, a Nissan Pathfinder or a Toyota 4Runner, that sort of thing. Uh, they said that it seemed to be a clean shaven Hispanic man with short hair. One recalled that the passenger had braided hair. Then they described, you know, everything after it. They were going on and on about that. They're trying to help locate a silver SUV with Rhode Island plates. They said they're looking into all these different things, and they couldn't find anything. No suspects, nothing.

2012, the Patriots go 12-4. 12-4, they go to the playoffs. They beat Houston in the first round, 41-28, lose to Baltimore, 28-13 in the championship game. But Aaron's still doing his bullshit here. Now, Aaron is still tight with his cousin, Tanya, and other people that he's got here. Holy crap. Wow.

Let's talk about some people here uh let's talk about somebody who he's going who a member of his family is going out with here okay um i guess which one is this now shania or shayana is is his i believe his fiance's sister. Okay. Shiana here. Either way, she's going out with her new boyfriend named Odin Lloyd at this point. Now, Lloyd, he plays like semi-pro football and shit like that. So, yeah, he's from Dorchester there. Either way, he ended up not having enough money for college. He was a good football player. He got into Delaware State but up not having enough money for college. He was a good football player.

He got into Delaware State but didn't have the money for it. So his financial aid fell through. He ended up moving back home. He's got a day job. He works for a Dorchester lawn fertilizer company. And he plays on the defensive line for the Boston Bandits, a semi-pro football team. He plays on the defensive line for the Boston Bandits, a semi-pro football team. So, yeah, they met in Foxborough, Odin and Aaron, in August of 2012 when Aaron had gotten Shania skybox seats at Gillette Stadium for her birthday. That was nice. Yeah, Lloyd's a big football fan, and they also love to smoke weed. So the two of them yeah they get to be real

buddies um aaron still smoking tons of weed still hanging out with bradley still doing all those kind of things um according to bradley hernandez was totally stuck in all of his own old ways more paranoid even more paranoid than before he's always now he's worried that people are trying to use him. So now he's telling everybody that strangers and old friends are all ungrateful for all the things he's done for them. So now he's one of those guys. Yeah, but that's... He's going into martyr mode. You can't keep those people around then.

Why do you keep the fucking hangers on around you? If you think they're using you, then don't hang out with them. He'd rather hang out with them and fucking explain and complain about it he moved into a big house installed a huge extensive surveillance system with cameras inside and out which is bad for him later as we find out yeah bad for him what you did you see a lot of what you did on those interior cameras he also convinced himself that he was being tailed by the feds and that helicopters were following him around so he's doing like a henry hill third act of goodfellas deal um he also and that iphones could be hacked to record his conversation so he thought

everybody was hacking his shit um hernandez warned bradley not to use his ip iPhone when he came around him. Jesus Christ. The birds have batteries. It's fucking nuts. This year on the field, he starts in all 10 games he plays. 51 receptions, 483 yards, five touchdowns. That's all fine here. But like we said, they lose the AFC championship game to the Ravens. And, you know, it's a tough end of the season.

It is, yeah. Three weeks after it all ends, Aaron and Alexander Bradley fly down to Miami. So, yeah, they were hosting. There were Super Bowl parties being hosted down there by friends that they knew on the Deontay Thompson, who played for Baltimore, is tight with Aaron. So that's how they did this. Now, they both were starters at Florida. And anyway, they all end up getting together down here.

Bradley realized he didn't know anybody. He said, I don't know anybody. He said that there was a guy named Papu. He said that another guy named Black Brown, who was Deontay Thompson's nephew there, Uh-huh. here. Bradley just said he didn't know any of these fucking people. He didn't know if they were going to be cool to him or what. And he was he didn't know how the hell Aaron was going to act either. So he thought it was a little bit weird. A few weeks earlier, he'd been hanging out with Aaron when Shania and her boyfriend Odin came in. They were there to see Shania's sister. And as they passed through the kitchen, Shania said hello. And Odin, who had met Bradley, didn't acknowledge him at all. Even after Aaron said that was odin who had met bradley didn't acknowledge him

at all even after aaron said that was rude he just walked by him and didn't odin didn't give bradley the time of day so he's like that was rude so bradley said yeah that was pretty fucked up that's kind of bullshit so um now oscar hernandez that's papu uh he was was not related to Aaron, by the way. He was apparently Tom Thompson's roommate in Gainesville. The guy who he's who Aaron's going to see here. He he was one of the guys gathered here. He's not a football player, but Papu liked hanging around the football players. This this other Hernandez. So Aaron, I guess Aaron wanted a gun. I guess this Thompson guy asked Papu if he could borrow a gun for protection, and this guy gave him a gun for protection. So football players can get what they want, especially from guys who are kind of hangers-on here.

So they all made several – they were always going down to Miami, hanging out, going to strip clubs and all this type of shit. So anyway, Hernandez thought that cops were following him, even from New England down to here. Bradley said, if they are, it's because of the stupid shit you did in Boston. That's what he said he would tell them. On their second night, they go to the strip club. Bradley sits in a top floor VIP room aaron and a bunch of other guys and he asked one of the waitresses for a cell phone charger the waitress said she would look but then she never came back so bradley ended up leaving his phone on the table and forgot it was there and then he saw the check. The check was $10,000. So Aaron asked Bradley to split it with him.

And Bradley said, I don't even know these fucking people we're with. Five grand? Yeah. You're the only person here I know. We're going to pay for all these people's shit. So he said, why should I have to pay five grand to buy a few drinks and dances for a bunch of friends that I don't even fucking know? So Hernandez was pissed off at him. Hernandez ended up paying the bill himself.

Wow. Then they pile back into the SUV and Bradley says he recalls riding in the back. Hernandez was up front in the passenger seat. Jarrell, that guy, was driving. He said it was super late, 3, 4 in the morning. He was tired. But Bradley realized, fuck, I left my phone at the club. Can we go back?

And Aaron said no. So they started to argue about it. He's like, yo, I need to fucking get my phone. Everybody in the car took Aaron's side. Aaron said, I'll buy you a new phone. He said, I don't want a new phone. I want my phone. It's got my kid's pictures in it and shit, man. I just want my phone it's got my kids pictures in it and shit man i

just want my phone aaron said no i'm not turning around so bradley's pissed off tells aaron he's pissed off and all this type of shit so finally bradley falls asleep back there he wakes up when they get to where they're going he says he opens his eyes and he sees aaron aaron is pointing a semi-automatic pistol in his face, according to Bradley. He says he threw up his right hand to cover it, and Aaron pulled the trigger and shot him. It blew through Bradley's hand, tore off a part of his finger, went through the bridge of his nose, and blew up his right eyeball in a socket. What the fuck? Yeah.

So then one of the other guys in the car leans over and starts to push Bradley out of the car. So Hernandez gets out on the passenger side, grabs Bradley from the other side, and pulls him out of the car. Okay. So just leaves him there in the road. Oh, my God. And they drive away. Yeah. So there's some guy out fucking, some guy here, It's light out now, 630 in the morning. And some guy here is opening up his John Deere landscapes lot. He goes out to get the back gate and he heard a car. He heard a gunshot ran out to unlock the back gate and he saw a body laying there. laying there he goes toward the face go toward it he sees a man laying there curled up in a fetal position covered in blood all this shit so um he calls 9-1-1 and uh he's still alive bradley he

says tell him to hurry i'm gonna bleed out he said my name's alex bradley they said do you know who shot you and he said no and he said why would someone do this to you and bradley said i don't know i'm done talking it hurts too bad i don't want to talk about this shit so anyway they said paramedics are on their way they're on 9-1-1 and they say what did they look like and he just said they look like uh big and they said big what he said big black males he said do you know what they were driving and he said i have no more information for you. That was that. So either way, they get there. They take him in to the hospital and everything like that.

He's going to lose his right eye over this. That's pretty fucking horrible. So Hernandez, when he gets back to where he's going, he calls Brooke, who is Bradley's ex-girlfriend, the mother of his child there, from the airport. And he said, have you seen Alex? This is what Aaron says. Have you seen Alex? Which obviously just shot him in the face and pulled him out of a fucking car. They said, we were in Miami and we're supposed to meet at the airport, but I'm at the airport and I can't find Alex.

Do you know where he is? Yeah. So this woman says, no, I do you know where he is uh-huh yeah so this woman says no i don't know where he is she called around she called hospitals in the area to see uh where he might be she called the miami police who told her to file a missing person report at her local precinct in hartford so the whole time though she's texting with aaron have you heard from him now have you heard from him now? Have you heard from him yet? I haven't heard from him, all this type of shit. So the bullet did not go into his brain, luckily. Thank God. Yeah. He had surgery the next day and they asked him, where were you the night before? And he said, sir, I'm from Connecticut. So that could tell you how much I know of where I was.

I have no idea where I was. They said, okay, so what can you give me to try to find out the people that did this to you? I mean, it's up to you. You're a big boy if you won't. And he said, Bradley said, he's a fucking asshole whoever did this to me. The cop said, well, obviously. Good appraisal, friend. He said, it's up to you, though. You can help me.

You know where you were you know what happened you can tell me or you can tell me to just what you said fuck off i don't know what do you want and bradley said i'm not saying fuck off to you man that's the part i'm trying to get you to understand i'm not just disrespecting you by any means i'm not saying fuck off and fuck you i'm just saying i ain't got the means. I ain't telling on nobody. That's what he said. They said, well, you don't have to cooperate with the investigation. But if I don't have a victim, I don't have a crime.

That's up to you. That's your choice, not mine. But you have to understand next time they may not screw up, they may shoot better. And he said, well, yeah, that's fine. I understand it. So that's it. So the cops leave. Bradley calls Aaron from his hospital bed yeah he says

what's up and aaron says who's this and bradley said you know who this is it's me your boy aaron hung up on him a ghost click so bradley called up two more times. He said, I don't know why you keep hanging up. He said, I didn't tell the fucking police on you, man. So then Bradley said, you know what time it is when I get back? And Aaron hung up on him again. So he was like, I'm coming for you now, motherfucker, is what Bradley's saying, basically. Bradley ends up sending a text. I really do love you, my boy boy but you won't get away with that

jesus christ gangster shit right there that's what i'm saying um that is fucking funny now um i i don't even know what the basically aaron had told belichick that he was going to spend a bunch of time in the off season in californ hang out with Tom Brady and stuff like that. But he hadn't seen Tom Brady for shit, but he has shot people in the face. Holy shit. So he does go out to California, but he just doesn't hang out with Tom Brady. He just hangs out in Hermosa Beach. They rent a house.

Him and his girlfriend rent a house in Hermosa Beach, and that's what they do. He hangs out flies out old friends fucking all this type of shit this is what he spent his career doing man fucking off yeah on march 25th the call came into 9-1-1 in hermosa beach and it was shayana his fiance saying that aaron had just hurt his hand he said said, she said, I need an ambulance immediately. He's losing a lot of blood. He cut himself where he cut himself on his wrist. Did he do it on purpose?

She said, yes. Are you sending someone? They said, ma'am, I'm making the call right now. You need to be calm. He said,

has he ever threatened to hurt himself in the past? And she said, no, no, no. Um, they said they got into an argument and, um,

they said it's drugs and alcohol involved. She said, no. Um, finally they, uh, They said they got into an argument and they said there's drugs and alcohol involved. She said no. Finally, the dispatcher got her to admit that Aaron put his fist through a window. That's what it was. And the dispatcher said, you didn't say that before. You made it sound like he cut himself. And she said, he's bleeding.

I don't know. Don't ask me questions right now. It's ugly over here. So then Shiana said, if you can't help me, maybe you could put someone nicer on the line. Then the dispatcher went to say something else, and Shiana hung up on her. Several occasions, Aaron's neighbors called the police. Around the time of this 911 call, Aaron and Shiana had visited a tattoo parlor in hermosa beach hermosa beach and got a set of matching tattoos and uh it was to remind them that they'd always have each

other so uh you never forget that sometimes yeah they were they were references from a lyric by incubus what they got incubus reference to references tattooed on themselves they got incubus lyrics tattooed on that is what the fuck song could it possibly be i don't know and i don't think i fucking want to know i don't know if it's the color of the melody could i think aaron hernandez was a bigger douche well not anymore it could have gone anywhere but now it's swelled to a level that it's not possible he got an incubus good god are you fucking kidding me man what fuck lyric means anything to any incubus is just gibberish that's what all it's all those songs i don't know what lyrics is gonna say do That's what all those songs are. I don't know. What lyrics is it going to say?

Do they have lyrics? Yeah. Does Incubus have lyrics? I don't think they do. They're just bad. They're just sounds. It's just gibberish. Yeah, it's what I think.

That's what I heard, but apparently not. So they got tattoos. A few days later, the police are called. When they arrived, they heard fighting and saw that furniture had been thrown around the room. Yeah. Police asked. That's an incubus fan right there. That's an incubus fan.

I got incubus lyrics tattooed on me. Expect this shit. Expect it. Expect what I'm doing right now because it's important. It's obvious what I'm doing. Look at me. Want to see the lyrics motherfucker thank you bitch i don't even know if that's the guy's name or if it's the band's name

i liked him enough i just didn't i didn't get involved enough to know anything about that who fucking cares just sounds and Oh, my God, man. Giverish. Hilarious. So she won't file a report, though. She declines to file a report. Nine days later, Aaron goes to a bank in Hermosa Beach, deposits a check from the Patriots for $1,835,809.97, $30,000 from Puma. Yeah. And he deposits all of this and then asks the teller to wire $15,000 to a Florida bank account belonging to the parents of Oscar Papu Hernandez. Oh.

Yeah, the guy who this gun came from. Yeah. Yeah. came from. Yeah. So either way, I guess Papu would pass the money along to Bo Wallace and two others who used the money to buy two pistols, an AR-15 and a Hungarian-made AK-47 and a used Toyota Camry, which they used to ship the pistols from Florida to Aaron's home in North Attleboro. Because you can-

By the box and it's a car. It's a car, which makes sense. Drug You gotta buy the box, and it's a car. It's a car, which makes sense. Drug dealers would do that. You put it in a car, you send it on a tower, you send it on somebody that tows it, no one's gonna fucking look in there, that's it. No one gives a fuck about the car, it's the guns that are inside.

So, yeah, they keep getting more tattoos. Aaron wanted another tattoo. He wanted a tattoo that depicted the smoking muzzle of a handgun. And he wanted it to look like the one that he used to shoot Bradley. He asked the artist to ink a spent shell underneath it too. Can you make it like a

spent shell? Make sure it looks like I fired it. Above his wrist he got a tattoo of a revolver with five bullets in the chamber and had the phrase God forgives written backwards so that he could read it in the mirror, obviously tattooed behind it or next to it. So, um, the, this is fucking ridiculous here. So later on, by the way, they're going to say the five bullets are the ones that represent the five

shots he fired the night of the thing. And then the one bullet is the, is for Alexander. So that's what they're saying. All the while, by the way, Alexander is sending tons of text messages to Aaron, not forgiving him. Yeah, it's fucking, he says, you owe me for this, motherfucker. He said, quote, you did that bullshit for no reason. And me being the real friend I told you I was to you, I didn't try to ruin you even after you tried to kill me. I think about how real that is. The tears should be in my eyes after the way you betrayed me. I never crossed you in no way. I love you and you're not going to frame me for some bread. That's what Aaron replied. I love you and you're not going to frame me for some bread. Then Alexander said, I would never try to frame you. You left me with one eye and a lot of head trauma. You owe me for what you did Then Alexander said, If I death with police, my boy would have been over and done with.

That's what's crazy about this situation. We know each other so well. You know I ain't know something. You too paranoid. That's what made you do this shit. But last but not least, I always wanted to be, I always wanted the best for you. Remember that you obviously didn't feel the same way. So Aaron said, I'll always be there for you till the day you die.

I'm going to kill you. That's how I know. And those days are fucking numbered, my friend. He said, but not in the state of mind you're in. And I don't know what's gotten into you after all these years. We were inseparable. But everything aside, you're always on my mind. And I love you and always will. No homo.

That's what he wrote. He wrote no homo. He wrote no homo at the end of all that. I don't want him to. I told him I love him, and he might get the idea that I am gay, so I need to make sure that he knows. Yeah. No homo. That that wasn't actually sexual tension built up when I shot him.

I love you. I don't want to fuck you, but I love you. Oh, my God. He says, what's crazy is I believe that part is true. You probably do think about how real of an N-word I am and how you even flipped on me. But what sickens me is the fact that you are denying this shit like it's for the lawyer or cops. You must really not know me but i guess i didn't know you either because i never would have thought you'd try to end me so um around that time he updated his contact lists on his phone aaron did and bradley would come up as

lies that was his name lies um another exchange with uh the, the, uh, Papu's parents, uh, another $15,000 wire came, uh, there. So, um, it's a lot, man. It's going on. Aaron denied anything wrong. Send another text back to, uh, back to, uh, Alexander saying, if you ever got me in trouble or ruin my life for Sutton, I didn't do, I don't even want to get back at you, but you will pay. I'll be back

around the way in a couple months and I can't wait to see you because I see you still be at your baby's mother's crib a bunch. Love you cuz. Can't stop loving someone that was the only person that I fucked with and that was like a brother to me, but damn, you're trying to sue me for something I didn't do and don't know nothing about. you could win that god is on your side but i doubt something can be proved that isn't true aaron thinks he's just trying to sue him yeah that's the thing um yeah uh wow he said then bradley says here you go threaten again you know you don't scare me, though. If you knew how G'd up I am, you wouldn't even say that. Then he said, he told Aaron that he had all sorts of guns. He said, oh, I almost forgot.

That's right. I got people to use these weapons. You think them wolves ain't on deck? Then try what you got to try. Jesus Christ. So they're going back and forth making threats basically. Yeah. Yeah.

He says, what makes you think I want to kill you? I'm the one who you tried to kill. No, I promise I'll pay for that. God, it's so hard to read these texts. They're all like letter texts and shit like that. And different like kind of Yule is y is uh ull so it's just hard to shit like that aaron says i swear to i swear to god either you know you're trying to ruin my life and kill me when all i did was be there for you i still love you no homo i will always love you stop saying no homo aaron you say that many times you're homo. My God, man.

They go back and forth. I miss and love you and still watch videos of us having fun every single day. That's Aaron saying that shit. Bradley saying not to bother, but you feel me on this, blah, blah, blah. Basically, I'm going to get you. No, you're not. All this type of shit, right? no you're not all this type of shit right so hernandez contacts a company an armored company to place an order for 120 000 armored ford expedition he wants to drive he now he knows

there's a marked man yeah that's that's fucking wild so aaron on april, 2013, he shows up at the Chelsea Pub and Lounge in Hermosa Beach, starts to drink, double shots of Patron Silver. Wow. Alternating that with the bar's signature cocktail, the Adios Motherfuckers. Yeah. Which is a- Those are- Don't drink anything like that. Yeah.

If anybody gives you one like that, this is the mind eraser. Right. This is the fucking, you know. Here's liquid cocaine. This is, yeah, this is the fucking, this is the pussy opener. Like, don't drink any of those drinks. Those are bad. Don't drink anything.

Just drink, sip a fucking whiskey or tequila and shut the fuck up. You'll get drunk. It's vodka, rum, tequila, and gin. Yeah. So, yeah, that's pretty gross. So, anyway, Aaron tried to take the cocktail out on the sidewalk in front of the pub a couple times. A bouncer had to come on the sidewalk, tell him to come back in. So, yeah, that's what he keeps doing. He kept doing it.

Finally, he says, sir, you can't take the drinks outside of the bar. He went back in the bar, finished his drink on another round, heads toward the door again. The bouncer stops him before he even gets there this time this time he asked him to leave he's like you gotta go sir it's called adios i get to leave with this yeah you say they said adios motherfucker and i said okay and then i try to walk out and you keep turning me around every time i get one i go to leave and you tell me no. He said no. Aaron said he's not leaving, and he sat down at the table to finish his drink. He's pissed off. He starts cursing at the staff.

A few more bouncers come around. Aaron curses at them, too. Basically, it's the typical night out with Aaron Hernandez here. So he's got nobody to get in the middle of it, either, because he's got his voice of reason guy he shot in the face when you shoot the voice of reason in the face it's difficult so he shot the messenger no shit so he didn't want to get arrested so he paid his bar tab and he left

fucking unreal another time he um i guess he he bought some more guns through this point um he said that he liked people his friends said he likes having a little gun on him because he doesn't it doesn't stick out and it does the job is what he said so that's what he used to keep june 17 2013 odin lloyd okay um a jogger is out a guy named matthew kent is out for his morning jog suddenly he stops and sees a man lying on his back near a dirt pile guy says are you all right man doesn't answer walks a little closer he says are you all right no answer gets a little closer it's a dead guy so he's not all right this is in massachusetts they

call the the cops the cops come in here um all this type of shit the the one the captain shows up it's his day off he shows up in a shorts and a t-shirt and all that kind of shit he's like what's going on here yeah so they figured out there was uh what appeared to be bullet wounds to the torso. They said that rigor mortis had set in. He'd been there for a while. They said that the man was on the ground. His left fist was clenched over his chest

and he'd been shot all over the place. Young black man, eyes half open. So they made a note of the sneaker prints that had been left in the dirt. They found a baseball cap, a white towel, and a partially smoked blunt lying on the ground.

That's all they could see, basically. Rain would come after that and wash away a bunch of evidence, which doesn't help here at all. The detective said, it could not have come at a worse time. We have the body itself, tire marks, shoe prints and rounds. All of a sudden you could see the trees bending over, clouds moving in slow motion.

Holy shit, we've got to do something here. So they brought in tents and tarps so they could cover the crime scene, trying to stay ahead of the storm, photographed it, did all this sort of shit. They decided that the dirt, the man's heels had kicked up as he fell, they figured out that it's the kind of thing the rainstorm could have washed away and they could tell how he fell if he got shot standing up or if

he ducked down. So they said he'd been shot standing up and then shot several more times after falling. Shit. The cops said, boom, he goes down. Boom, boom, boom, he's on the ground. That's that. They said you could tell somebody wanted to make sure he was dead.

The shell casings were right there, one in the dirt and three more in a little indentation in the ground next to the body. Everything was right there. They said whoever did this was brazen. They said it's crazy not to bother to even pick up your shell casings when you're in the middle of nowhere and you're right there. It's like they've done this a bunch. Yeah, and they're ballsy as fuck.

So the heavy rain comes. They do all of this shit. They find $64.75 in cash, two sets of keys for an enterprise rent-a-car, and a cell phone. That's what they find here when they go through Odin Lloyd's pockets. That's a lot of traceable shit. Yeah. So they were like, fuck, this is a lot of stuff here. They said, for Christ's sake, you're going to kill someone.

Take his cell phone. I'm going to leave this here. They said they found the man's wallet, ID. It's Odin Lloyd, who we've known as a friend of Aaron's through people here. It's definitely him. They're trying to figure out who did this. They said they've recovered two sets of keys to a black Chevy Suburban with a Rhode Island license plate.

They believe the person that rented it may be in danger is what they said. So the rental car agency looked up the number, all that kind of shit. They said that the car was rented by Aaron Hernandez. Weird. The car Odin Lloyd has keys to. So, yeah, it's pretty fucking interesting. Lloyd recently had been driving this car. Odin Lloyd had been driving this car.

He didn't own a car before this. And they're like, he was like showing up at his Boston Bandits game with a new SUV. And they're like, where did you get that car, bro? He said he showed up at football games to his – on his BMX bike usually. Oh, my god. So Lloyd had told everybody, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I just got this car now.

So they were even like trying to uh fucking look in the glove compartment to see who he was and they finally found out that he hangs out with uh aaron hernandez so they were like oh is he cool and they're like he's pretty cool you know he's all right blah blah blah so erratic from time to time yeah either way odin um i guess odin lost his job as an electrician and that's when he became a day laborer for the landscaping firm and all that kind of shit. So he knows that Odin's got it tough, and the coach of the Boston Bandits tried to convince him to go into firefighting maybe, something like that. Really? Who knows?

Maybe he'd do that sort of thing. They said he was working for the electric company. They put him up in a hotel and he ended up meeting the girl and that's how he ended up meeting Aaron Hernandez. Either way, apparently Branch, who's the coach, wanted Lloyd to

meet his friend who was a running back and all this type of shit. So the two of them had planned on hanging out after the scrimmage and watching a game of the NBA finals. Oden's boss called to say that he would be needed early the next morning. So instead hanging out after the scrimmage and watching a game of the NBA Finals. Oden's boss called to say that he would be needed early the next morning, so instead Oden and his friend got barbecue with the rest of the Bandits. Oden dropped Darryl off, who's the guy on the Bandits, afterward in the SUV, which Aaron Hernandez had been loaning him.

So either way, Oden's pulling up, drops this guy off. Uh, as he's dropping him off, he gets a text from Hernandez. Um, Aaron told Odin, I'm coming to grab that tonight. You got to be around. I need that. And we could step for a little again. So he's saying, I'm coming to get the car there. So, um, either way, uh, two minutes after that, Hernandez texted another guy and said, please make it back because I'm definitely trying to step for a little.

So then he texted Odin again. He said, what's up? And Odin said, where do you want to meet? Aaron said, I don't know. It don't matter. But I'm going to hit you. I'm going to hit you when I'm that way. Like last time, if my phone dies, I'm going to hit you when I charge it.

It will be in a little. Okay. So then he texted his other friends, said, get your ass up here. Odin said, we still on either way. Surveillance footage from the security system at Aaron's house shows Wallace and Ortiz arriving at Hernandez's house at eight minutes later. Aaron's nanny, Jennifer, lets them in and they go down to the basement and wait for Aaron's arrival. 20 minutes later, Cheyenne's Audi Q7 pulls up and Aaron and Cheyenne get out. Bo and Carlos walk outside to greet them, then four of them go back

inside. In the living room, surveillance cameras capture Hernandez passing a gun from one hand to the other before he accompanies Wallace and Ortiz into the basement. A little while later, they head back upstairs, go outside and climb into a Nissan Altima that Aaron had rented. Okay. Over the next hour, Lloyd got five calls from Wallace's cell phone. Then at 2.30 in the morning, Hernandez picked Odin up at the Dorchester home that Odin lived with his mother in. So one of Odin's sisters, Shakila, was sitting in a car down the street when Hernandez pulled up.

She watched Odin get into the Altima. A half hour later, he sent her a text. You saw who I'm with, Odin had written. That's all he wrote. So they said that after picking up Odin, Aaron blew through. He went through the tolls on the turnpike here. And as he's driving, Aaron's driving, he is firing a Glock 45 at road signs as they pass. While he's driving?

While he's driving. Like he's a fucking cowboy. What the shit, man? So they also believe that Hernandez hit a traffic cone on the turnpike, broke off his driver's side mirror, and kept driving. Inside the Altima, Odin kept checking his cell phone. He'd been talking to Shaquille, his sister. Odin sent a text, hello. Eight minutes later, Shaquille responded, my phone's dead.

Who was that? And Lloydd responded nfl yeah so shakila wrote back lol you're aggy which means aggravated yeah and he uh uh but that's how it happened so then odin sent her one more text just so you know just so you know that was it just so you know, just so you know. That was it. Just so you know, I'm with Aaron Hernandez. I'm with this guy right now. So on his way out of the house, he told his mom that he was on his way to a scrimmage and all that shit. So 9.30 Monday evening, a call from a trooper comes through, they call our Odin Lloyd's mom. And they say,

do you know Odin Lloyd? Yeah, that's my son. And they said, well, two detectives are coming to your house and that is because he's dead. So yeah. Oh my goodness.

So either way, uh, Odin Lloyd ends up not surviving this night here. Now, Cheyenne, they find on the footage, is running all over the house. First, she took a large black garbage bag down to the basement out of view of the surveillance cameras. Moments later, she came back up with the same black bag, left the house, taking her sister's car. Inside the bag, there was a box that Aaron had told her to get rid of. car. Inside the bag, there was a box that Aaron had told her to get rid of. She drove around.

Shanna drove around aimlessly, as she would put it, until she found a dumpster and she tossed the garbage bag into the dumpster along with the box that Aaron had given her. She said later on, I'd learn not to ask questions. Jesus. So upon waking up, Aaron calls a cleaning crew to come to his house and just clean the whole everything here. So holy shit, this is a mess. Now, Aaron Hernandez, Wallace, and Ortiz drove to an Enterprise rental location to return the Ultima they had the night before. Sam's mirror? Yeah. And right around this time is when Od odin lloyd's body is found so they go to enterprise they said the ultimate been damaged a broken mirror and a dent in the

door um so um uh they end up you know working all that out um they end up getting a different car driving away while that's going on the cops are processing the crime scene. They're doing all this shit. So what they did is they traced the rental car keys back to Aaron Hernandez, like we said that Odin Lloyd had. They searched his cell phone, saw the last batch of texts that Odin

had received and sent. They said at that point, an officer involved with the investigation said, we didn't know anymore. We thought that Aaron might be dead too oh they thought that this was like aaron and his friend got killed basically so you know it turns into a fucking mess here but there is so much here uh by the way they end up having to call the patriots about this because aaron you know they want to find out if where aaron was was he seen around the building? You know, they're trying to get timelines down and all that kind of shit. Um, so Aaron Hernandez calls Brian Murphy, who I believe is a guy who works for the Patriots,

if I'm not mistaken here or his lawyer, one of the, Oh, his lawyer, he says, Hey Murph, there's a cop outside my house, just kind of sitting there. And he said, OK, Aaron, let me ask you a question. Did you do anything wrong? Is there crazy? Would he be there for you? Maybe. He said, no, I didn't do anything wrong. And they said, OK, then why is there a cop there?

And Aaron said, I don't know. You just never know what's going to happen. And this guy said, I don't understand. If you haven't done anything wrong, why would you be concerned? Which is a great question. And then Aaron said, well, I don't want them thinking. I think they're waiting to get a search warrant. And he said, I don't think this is a lawyer.

Because then they said, listen, dude, why don't you just go up there and ask him what he wants? You know, just walk up to the car. And walk up to the car and ask him what he wants. So the troopers are out there. Aaron walks out of the house and walks toward them. So they asked him, did you rent a black Chevy Suburban? And he said, yeah, I rented it for my friend O. And they said, who's O? He's Odin. How do you know Odin? My girlfriend's sister dates him. When was the last time you saw Odin? I was up his way yesterday. So they said, where

was that? And he said, Boston. He couldn't provide the exact address, but he said he had it on his GPS. And then Aaron said, I saw you out here on my security monitors. What's with all the questions? I'm going to have to speak to my attorney. And he walked back in and went inside the house and locked the door behind him. The cops followed. A moment later, Aaron opened the door and handed one of the cops a business card it was a

law firm in boston yeah and they said they said we're investigating a death and aaron doesn't say a death who died he just slams the door and locks it what which is odd behavior so someone was innocent they go what the fuck what are you talking about who died at least who died what are you talking about? Who died? At least who died? What are you talking about? They said at that point, he doesn't ask shit. That's when they're starting to get suspicious about him a little bit. He comes down to the station.

Aaron does here. Um, and, um, he's got lawyers. He's all fucking, you know, he's all lawyered up and all that kind of shit. So they tell,

they tell the lawyer, Aaron's not been placed under arrest he hasn't even been questioned yet his lawyers are arrived and he's allowed to leave the station not going to be questioned so they walk out um and conferred for 45 minutes as they did um you know the uh they end up finding seven videos of a nissan Altima pulling in and out of this clearing where the killing was. They find all this different shit. June 18, 2013, they serve a warrant on Aaron's house at that point. And the CBS Sports that day announced Patriot's tight end isn't believed to be a suspect in the murder investigation near his home.

But they're just talking to him. Yeah, I remember that. So they were searching his house when Aaron went down to the basement and started to play pool with his girlfriend's uncle. The TV was on. It was game six of the NBA finals. During a commercial break, Aaron turned to Littleman and said who is the uh uncle of his girlfriend and said my endorsements are gone because they're searching his house the police take several bags of evidence with him uh one is a an iphone 5 a blackberry an ipad tablet two ipad minis a dvr

with surveillance footage from the 14 cameras around aaron's house and the terabyte hard drive as well. Wednesday morning, next day, Aaron drives to Gillette Stadium and all that sort of thing and, you know, just drives in there. Everything's fine, yeah. Aaron said, yeah, I knew him, and the media's playing it like Hernandez had ties to this dead guy. TMZ said he hadn't been ruled out as a suspect, but that doesn't mean anything like that.

Either way, here we go 9 26 p.m the law enforcement places hernandez and the victim in two locations 10 12 p.m aaron hernandez was the driver of a vehicle odin lloyd and two others were in lloyd found dead one mile from hernandez's home could have dumped him in a better place than that too right 10 15 p.., two law enforcement sources, homicide victim Odin sent text message to a friend that included a reference to Aaron Hernandez. 10.18 p.m., four men together in a vehicle, only three returned to Hernandez's home.

Odin Lloyd is not one of them. This is based on all the different camera angles that they find. So Aaron just goes to work like there's nothing. Yeah. They wanted to know basically why his security system looked like it had been destroyed intentionally and why his cell phone was broken into five pieces. Now, how did that even happen? Yeah.

They said he gave it to investigators in pieces they wanted to know why cleaners were called out the day after this happened to scrub the house down it was like he said he really wanted a deep clean too um but he's still a free man and all that sort of thing gets to the stadium at 11 23 in the morning uh the director of security uh for the for the patriots told Aaron he has to leave immediately and you being there is quote bad for business yeah this looks ugly so yeah he takes he goes the cops say they while they searched the house he had no expression on his face he didn't show any nervousness he'd lay on the couch watching tv playing with his daughter smiling laughing

he didn't care he thought he was above the law they ended up finding a dozen evidence bags here uh they had um they had all sorts of bullets uh they found 22 ammo fucking bullets all this type of shit here so they find tons and tons and tons of stuff somebody rented the car a woman named keelya smith rented a nissan altima and said that she found a shell casing after god after and it was stuck to some gum she threw it out in a dumpster the car she ended up talking to the cops about it after she heard all this stuff and read in the paper she said i don't know if this is important they said where's the fucking dumpster and uh they went there and ended up finding the shell case oh thank god yeah uh it's it's pretty fucking interesting um they have surveillance footage also from his own security of him taking the battery out of his cell phone shell casings from the murder scene shell casings from the

ultima would tie it all together though this was a shell casing from him shooting at signs. He didn't realize it fell in the car. So, yeah, they did all of that. They have a lot of stuff here. Carlos Ortiz, one of his friends, is interrogated for nine hours, then fails a polygraph test. After that, they said, look, here's what happened you saw aaron shoot him that's what they say to carlos he said no um he said i'm willing to do like help anything like you know i want to cooperate i want to work with you like i'm like this uh call me a snitch call me what

the fuck you want i'm willing to tell you what you want. And they said, well, you've been put in a really bad situation. Why don't you help us out here? So this Ortiz agreed to a DNA swab. When they asked him, did you shoot O? Did you shoot O that day? Did you get out of the car when O was shot? His answers were deception indicated on there. He said that he opened the car door, but he had not stepped out of the car and it was

too dark to see aaron shoot lloyd but right after hearing gunshots he watched aaron run back to the car with a gun in his hand he's like i didn't see him technically shoot him i saw him run out with the intent to shoot him holding a gun then come back with the gun i heard gunshots i saw him holding a gun that's what i saw fuck man um he said this is a cop it was so stupid if hernandez had shot lloyd in dorchester or even in plainville if he had done it in the club's parking garage he would have gotten away with it think about it hernandez left the shell casings there by the body for us to collect a few days later we were collecting evidence from a dumpster the casing that came out of his car was a perfect match same firing pin and everything people would say how did that

shell casing get in the car he must have shot lloyd in the car well no he didn't he shot signs as he was driving down the freeway because he was so he was so stoned or drunk or just out of his mind or whatever oh my god this is fucking is insane. So he's arrested for murder. And that was shocking. I remember they brought him in. Remember, he was wearing that T-shirt like with this over his arms and all that shit, like all cuffed in the back. So, yeah, they're trying to get him bail, though. His lawyer says Mr. Hernandez is not just a football player, but he's one of the best football players in the United States of America.

He's a young man who's extremely accomplished in his chosen profession. He said he'll post a large cash bail. He'll wear a tracking bracelet. He wants to clear his name. And they were like, no, he wants to sit in jail. Fuck that. We don't even know yet that he's a serial killer. We have no idea.

No idea. We don't even know yet that he's a serial killer. We have no idea. No idea. So he's finally cut by the Patriots after they're pretty sure he's not going to make it to practice that day eventually. They're like, I don't think he's going to contribute this year. They finally cut him. They announced that whoever had bought Hernandez jerseys, too, could swap them out for free. You could bring your old Hernandez jersey and get a new one.

By 5 o'clock in the afternoon, the team's pro shop had processed 1,200 exchanges. The rest of the jerseys they got in exchange that the people brought in would all be burned. Aaron's sponsors, Puma and Saito Sport, that make muscle milk, they dropped him already. Puma and Saito Sport that make muscle milk. They dropped him already. And in the weeks and months that followed, they, you know, obviously EA Sports would remove him from their video games. A trading card company would take them out of their sticker books and replace his trading cards with ones that featured Tim Tebow.

Is that real? Holy fucking shit, man. Yeah. Tim Tebow got a card tim tebow got it and uh all this also that they they match all the ballistics up to everything they're finding all sorts of shit so they have them kind of dead to rights on odin lloyd yeah pardon the pun so yeah he's kind of screwed he's sitting in jail what do you do now it's almost over what do you do now he's got lawyers so that's good um he doesn't have the patriots backing him at this point but he's got lawyers that's important but he's sitting there and he just wishes he had somebody that believed

in him is what it is he's like someone's got to believe in me someone's got to be on my side someone if only i had someone to fix this type of situation and then he hears a knock at the door and it's the perfect person to fix it it's vince mcmahon oh ceo and all this shit of wwe and he says How is it you've come to arrive here? Look at you. Oh, you're full of muscles and this. Oh, come here. Come here, pal.

We're going to talk about this. This little murder thing. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal, buddy. I don't know if you know this, but have you ever heard of Jimmy Superfly Snooker? Huh? Off the top rope. He's coming crashing.

He killed a woman. Just right there. Just killed her. It's obvious. The only one with her. You've got other people there. I can get you out of this. I got to.

Can you pretend like you don't speak English? Just start speaking like, just gibberish. Can you say Noah Speaker? Say that. No. But a language they can't even translate. Something like that. You speak. You're from Papa language they can't even translate. Something like that. You're from Papa New Guinea, and you speak whatever language that is, okay?

Now take your shirt off, put these overalls on, and we'll get this all brushed under the rug. Let's go, buddy. Okay. Poof. And in a poof of 1099s and brain damage, he's gone. And Aaron's upset. He was signed up. He was ready for it.

He's like, this is my jam. So in the county jail here, I guess he gets interviewed about being a gang member. And they think he's tied to the Bloods probably. But they can't be positive. Later on in prison, he'll use the Blood phone bank. So if you don't know what that is, in prison, each group has different phones they're allowed to use. And the Bloods, only the Bloods use that phone. He uses that phone.

Sorry. And they're okay with it. Yeah. They said, I want to talk to you about those tattoos. And Aaron said, oh, no, it's not the Bloods. He said it was just some silly thing. It's nothing. Not the Bloods. Oh, no, no. It not the Bloods. He said it was, you know, just some silly thing. It's nothing. Not the Bloods.

Oh, no, no. They said, did you. It's the Buds. We're all friends. Yeah. So remember the sheriff came in on his day off. Yeah. So he's got shorts and a t-shirt on.

Aaron said, hey, can I ask you a question? Did you wear those shorts in here to get me to relax? And the cop said, quote, what are you, you an idiot i'm on my day off no i was relaxing you did this yeah he said you think i'm gonna get dressed up in a suit and tie to come talk to you you got to be shitting me the guy says which is very new england hernandez laughs and he says let me tell you something i pay attention to what's going on i'm the best at reading people and uh the sheriff says i bet you are but you're not the best you're not better than i am and they go back and forth with that and they uh they do some bullshitting now july 12th here's some these are uh calls to his uh to his girlfriend

and everything uh hey watch what you say the phone is recorded what are you up to um i know i know i know hi honey you get my letter yeah i did of course i did i got you one i got you a card and a letter aaron says watch what you write they read that shit singleton says i no no i don't like i don't know that he says well i gotta get i gotta get going i'll probably call you probably like once a week or something like that. She says, yeah, that's perfect. He says, yeah, and I'll also help you out with that too. Obviously, don't say nothing, but I love you.

She says, I know I'm not saying nothing. I love you so much. What a fun conversation. Don't say anything. I won't. This is his cousin. I'm sorry. This is Tanya, his cousin, not his girlfriend.

Then his cousin's talking to somebody else and says, I'm going back up there Thursday. This is Ernest Wallace. He says, what, to go visit? She said, no, I have to be up there to be in front of the grand jury or whatever because they're fucking dumb, but I got a good lawyer. And the other person says, wait up, wait up. You got to go to court for what? She says, they subpoenaed me to go in front of the grand jury and I got a lawyer.

That's why I got a real nice lawyer a good lawyer from over there um so either way that's what they're talking about august 1st um this is his girlfriend shayana says um tanya's in jail that's the cousin aaron says tanya she for what i don't know um she's in jail She got arrested today. Aaron says they picked her up by her house. His girlfriend says, no, she went for she was I don't know. You probably should talk to your lawyer about it. He says, oh, then then she says, but she told me to tell you that she's going to be just fine to keep your head up and know that she love you. In other words, she's not going to tell on you.

In other words, she's not going to tell on you. So 15 minutes later, Aaron says he calls back and says, yeah, they're just being asses about it. But they get they get out. They get to go out of their way to be assholes like the longest shit. She'll like the longest she'll do, like probably less than a month or a month until the grand jury is done. You know what I mean? The only good thing about Tanya being locked up is she's going to lose weight what the fuck actually you gain weight in prison don't you jesus christ man so aaron told his mother you have a big mouth during one call and he said there's so many things i'd like i would

that i would love to talk to you so that you can know me as a person but i could never tell you and you're going to die without even knowing your son she says well if you feel like you can know me as a person. But I could never tell you. And you're going to die without even knowing your son. She says well if you feel like you can't talk to me. And he says how could I? How could I? You're not trustworthy at all. It's so sad. I wish I could be closer to you.

But it can't. But it can't. And it kills me. But I can't. And she said you would always tell me bad things is what the mother says. Oh my God. Such bad things. Why would you tell me these things? And he said don't even talk on the phone like that. It is what the mother says oh my god such bad things why would you tell me these things and he said don't even talk on the phone like that it is what it is um do you think me and

tanya why do you think me and tanya are so close so um either way in the 22 months he's in jail jail before prison he's charged with 21 disciplinary offenses stemming from from 12 separate incidents here um jesus christ another time he and an inmate were placed in individual cages in the yard for their designated hour outside their cell an argument ensued he couldn't get to the other guy so they proceeded to spit on each other through the fencing i don't understand that i don't have that level of testosterone if you were a prison guard would you just sit and giggle watching i would laugh my ass off and be like you dumb motherfuckers you couple of idiots yeah um he said that they said that he kept to himself a lot um and tried to engage his spiritual behavior as well here. He said that being a football star, they all said, would make people challenge him all the time.

So they said his fame made him a target for everything. Once he received a note from another inmate telling him to look out for himself, or this guy would look out for you. Basically, you should look out for me and use your resources to get me out of jail. You should bail me out and then I won't stab you, basically. Yeah. So either way, Hernandez complained about his mail being read by prison officials, letters he wrote being seized, and other mundane things.

He once physically tore up a letter in front of guards and then ate it so they couldn't keep it. He said, I'll eat the shit and then you don't get the shit. He shouted as it happened. That was in the incident report. He complained about body cavity, strip and cell searches. He often called the jail corrupt. He argues that guards are unnecessarily intrusive in his life. He said, you're overdoing your job.

He shouted at one of them. in his life. He said, you're overdoing your job, he shouted at one of them. He's known for fits of frustration to kick and pound his door and shout for assistance. One county guard said his aggressive tone has become an excessive habit when he does not receive what he wants when he wants it. He's constantly kicking his cell door and screaming at the top of his lungs, utilizing profanity at times when he wants something, regardless of how minuscule it is. It's not uncommon for Hernandez to kick his cell door constantly until an officer approaches his cell merely to ask, uh, merely to ask the officer for the current time.

He doesn't even need anything. He just goes, what time is it? So am I out yet? Fuck. He goes to court for first degreedegree murder of Odin Lloyd. They say it's premeditated. They have the gun he used.

The gun he used has not been recovered, the.45, but they said one of the.222 caliber guns found in the woods near his body were linked back to him. They have shell casings. They have fucking surveillance footage they have a lot of shit here uh all together so um it's a lot the defense their defense is i mean quote this is what the defense attorney says you've just heard quite a story a dramatic story an exciting story it's just a story and it's not true. They said the police, the prosecutors targeted Aaron from the very beginning.

As soon as they found out he was a celebrity football player with the New England Patriots and a friend of old Lloyd's, Aaron never had a chance. That's all it was. It was all just a big witch hunt here. They said that the defense case is, by the way, his defense case lasts less than a day. He has one doctor come on, a professor of pharmacology, who described the behavioral effects of PCP. Because they said that the other two guys he was with were smoking PCP. So that must mean that they did it because it makes you aggressive. A forensic consultant who had swabbed the bubblicious chewing gum that one of the shell casings had stuck to had sent to Texas for processing.

By the way, he only chews bubblicious gum. Yeah, he loves it. He loves it. So another forensic analyst who had processed the sample and established a link to Aaron's DNA through the gum. They explained the DNA can be transferred from one object then to another and then onto a third, a process known as secondary transfer. It was extremely likely that the DNA on the gun could have been transferred onto that shell casing. So he might have held it, but he didn't have to shoot it. So defense closing here, they said that Aaron and Odin shared a passion, a passion for marijuana.

Odin was very skilled at rolling blunts. Odin would roll blunts for Aaron and theyin shared a passion, a passion for marijuana. Odin was very skilled at rolling blunts. Odin would roll blunts for Aaron and they'd smoke together. So they're just going over all this stuff. Yeah, it's wonderful, but he wouldn't shoot his blunt roller. That's crazy. So they said if Aaron planned in advance to murder Odin, why would he do it on his own in an open location less than a mile from his home? If Aaron had planned in advance to murder Odin, why would he leave keys to a car he'd rented in odin's pocket along with

odin's cell phone and wallet because he's a fucking idiot and he's arrogant he shot his best friend in the face and kicked him out of the car jesus christ man so the verdict comes in jury deliberates for six days wow six days and he is found guilty of murder in the first degree first degree um sentencing you sir may fuck off life without parole that's it for you no parole as they take aaron out of the court he just says they got it wrong. I didn't do it. Okay. So on Jesus prison orientation here. God, there's so much. This could be five fucking parts long. We're going to cram it in the next. We're going to somehow finish the next 10 minutes.

I don't know how we're going to do this. This is crazy. Either way, they're saying that a lot of the prisoners, about 75% of them have gang affiliations in this prison. He writes a lot of letters complaining, complaining, complaining about everything. He wants to get out of the orientation center and get into general population because you don't have as much access to anything there. He also really loves K2, synthetic weed shit from back then. Oh, he loves it.

Loves it. That's his joint because it's odorless and colorless, so you can smoke it and it doesn't cause anybody to notice, I guess. And it doesn't show up in urine tests for drugs in prison, so he could do that. Second murder trial comes up, by the way. He's got a, you know. Oh, for the guys in the car. Yeah, he's got that whole thing here. for the guys in the car yeah he's got that whole thing here um this one here um uh they said that i guess bradley is their star witness alexander bradley on this one and um they basically just

say that bradley's a liar he doesn't know what he's talking about yeah aaron didn't really shoot him in the eye this is a vendetta that he he has against Aaron and all this type of shit. They said there's absolutely no evidence that Aaron committed a crime. What's scary is how easily it appears to be charged with such crimes. That's the scary part. Lies from the beginning to end, ladies and gentlemen. Lies from Boston to Florida. But they're going to ride him. They're going to ride him all the way home. That's what they say about Bradley. So the verdict comes in. Jury deliberates for 37 hours over five and a half days. Wow.

And they find Aaron not guilty of murder in the first degree. Murder in the second degree, not guilty as well. He is acquitted of the charges. Acquitted of the Furtado and the other guy. They've acqu they've acquitted these charges all because a guy doesn't have much credibility yeah because he was a weed they just made him sound like he's a scumbag even and he also has a personal beef with aaron because he says aaron shot him in the face but then he never pressed charges so what the fuck he gets into prison and i guess he was openly bragging i'm gonna going to run this shit. This place is nothing. It's bullshit.

I'll run this motherfucker. I know what I'm doing. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it's a shithole there. And in prison, he's like I said, he's using the blood phone. One guy said that he's Aaron's was a highly functional guy. He went to college for three years. He survived with Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and thrived.

He could handle a lot of that. And I think he was just seeking guys to hang out with and chat about normal things with, not just straight prison. I found that it was for a very minor offense but a really interesting one. It's like why was he so interested in talking to the guards in his one hour outside of the cell each day? He was obsessed with talking to the guards. He was always wanting to talk to the guards. Yeah. And I think it's because he is used to being at a place where it's not just criminals.

You know what I mean? He is used to going to work every day. Yeah. And do shit. He's not just a gangbanger. He's challenged a lot. He was caught with a six-inch shiv at one point. Wow.

He's been treated for cuts, bruises, reddened fists, all sorts of shit. Here's one report. Hernandez struck a prisoner with a closed fist to the face and both men engaged in physical altercation. The combatants ignored several direct orders to cease their actions and

chemical agent was utilized to separate the individuals. He got maced. Yeah, all the time. This is from the Wetzel guy, the writer. He says, or the pretzel maker, whichever. He says, these were vicious fights. One, they had guards trying to pull him and another

inmate apart, and they had to mace them, basically to get them to stop fighting. There's another weird or interesting scene where he gets in a fight and he goes back to his cell. A guard comes in and sees him, and he's kind of sitting on the bed. His hands are all red from punching somebody. He's got marks on him and he's kind of breathing heavy and just sort of despondent that he had to get in this fight. I just think that if you read it all, the picture I got was not somebody who was doing well with this at all. He was surviving, but it was pretty miserable. He was clearly a

target for people to fight. He didn't walk in and have everyone go hey that's aaron hernandez don't mess with them it was like let's go see if we can take aaron hernandez yeah because he's done nothing positive you know i mean there's a difference between like putting peyton manning in jail and this this guy's done it done bad shit probably pittman he's done some bad shit i don't know i'm sure just less but less gunplay probably he's fuck man he's he's hernandez is an actual serial killer yeah he's trying to be he definitely would have been so on the night of november 20th 2013 he received a delivery from the jail commissary to his cell where he was housed and awaiting trial for odin lloyd murder. The delivery included some breakfast bars, cosmetics, and a whole

shitload of honey buns. Two dozen honey buns. He was on disciplinary detention status at the time. This was one of the 30 days for possessing 15 feet of fishing line he had. Used to pass notes, not to strangle

people. And threatening to beat up the officer who discovered it if they ever met outside of jail oh boy which that won't be a problem for me aaron trust me aaron knew his part of the punishment called for prohibition of commissary he also knew that they made a mistake and delivered it to him anyway and it would be discovered and they're going to come confiscate his food so what he did is he sat alone in the middle of the night and ate every fucking thing in the god he ate two dozen honey buns he ate all this shit stuffed it in his fucking mouth um it was wild so he just ate everything he then said i'm a smart dude i knew you'd be coming for this stuff that's why i ate as much food as i can he then asked can i eat the last four honey buns and they said no and took the honey buns so

oh my god um he fuck at one point he was knuckles and elbows were all red and they they uh they asked they said he was in a fight and he said you're making shit up this place ain't shit to me i'll run this place and keep running this shit prison ain't shit to and they said he was in a fight and he said, you're making shit up. This place ain't shit to me. I'll run this place and keep running this shit. Prison ain't shit to me, is what he said. He got prison tats as well.

He got one that says lifetime loyalty on his neck and they said that they didn't even know when the fuck he got it in there. It just popped up at one point. He pleaded guilty to being tattooed while incarcerated,

which is a violation of the policy. Got another tattoo on the right side of his neck and was punished again for that. May 16, 2015, Hernandez used another prisoner's telephone to call a calling card pin number to place a 14-minute call. That was caught on surveillance camera, and he pled guilty to that charge. May 17, 2015, the next day, he is disciplined for being a lookout as two other prisoners fought in his cell.

The fight was believed to be gang-related. The fights in cells are always gang-related. They agree to go in there and fight, and everybody else agrees to stay outside. That's how it works. That's so other people don't jump in. That's the point of it. So Aaron was described as a lookout and seen on surveillance video looking out, entering and exiting the cell several times. One of the prisoners was sent to an outside hospital for further medical attention, and he had to plead Hernandez pled guilty to the charges of fighting and conduct that disrupts normal operation of the facility. Okay, a couple more things. July 2015,

he is a guard conducting an afternoon cell decorum patrol, found a curtain hanging from the top bunk of his cell and another hung across the doorway blocking a clear view into the cell. He was written up 15 days without cafeteria privileges. Then, um, when on April 19th, the guard found a sheet hung in front of Hernandez's cell, told him to remove the sheet. And, uh, uh, apparently, um, it happened again, the whole thing. Another time he faced tobacco related offenses. Surveillance video showed him smoking tobacco product from a homemade cigarette, then passing it to another unnamed person on July 24th, found guilty of possessing tobacco products. He twice failed to pass through a metal detector and was strip-searched. They found a prison-made lighter concealed in the waistband of his scrubs.

The homemade lighter was constructed of. They didn't say what because they didn't want people to make them. Three months later, August 20th, he's assigned to a new housing unit. He began putting his property in the cell when another inmate walked over to him. Video surveillance shows the inmate attempting to shake his hand, but Hernandez struck the inmate with a closed fist, punches to the face, then engaged in a fight that had to be broken up by chemical agent, again, according to the report. Holy shit.

Another one on that fight, the altercations characterized as an ongoing feud between the parties. The report states that Hernandez and the individual were known to feud with each other within the institution. That's December 3rd. They found a six-inch metal sharpened shiv with a cloth handle and a wrist tether. He put a tether on that bitch. Another fight, June 10th, 2016. Disciplinary reports say that he and another inmate exchanged blows outside of their cell. He's removed from the housing unit, held in a disciplinary unit again.

Now, Kyle Kennedy. Who's Kyle Kennedy? Well, allegedly, according to Kyle Kennedy, a lot of people in prison, some records, and Aaron's brother, Kyle Kennedy, is Aaron's prison boyfriend. Oh, boy. Yes. Aaron Kennedy's a white kid with tattoos all over his face. He got into prison by using a butcher knife to hold up a Cumberland Farms convenience store.

Cumberland Farms. Getting $189, then crashing his getaway car. So he was then put in an unlocked cell of the sheriff's station, at which point he walked out, and they caught him again. He's sent to prison. So either way, he shared a cell with Aaron. What? Yeah, he shared Aaron's cell with him.

He walked out of prison after robbing a Cumbie's at knife point. They put him in a cell with Aaron fucking fucking hernandez yeah well everybody in this 75 of the prisoner gang members so that's just everybody's doing shit he said we sold drugs every day we did drugs every day that's what he said that he and aaron did he said we used to write back and forth to each other all day he said that he and hernandez would lock in to either cook food or smoke or get high listen to music or just chill when we didn't want to be around other people. He said their relationship quickly became sexual with Kennedy claiming that they would be physical with one another once or twice a week. And, yeah, he said that Aaron was really paranoid that he wasn't going to get to go home and he didn't want people to disrespect him and all that kind of shit.

There's a hundred incidents on Aaron's records between the two prisons. A lot of them are just yelling at guards. A lot of them are actual fights and everything like that. So April 18th, 2007 or 2017, I'm sorry. The Patriots won the Super Bowl a couple months earlier. And the next morning, they are going to be at the White House to get their congratulations. So Aaron, that morning, he takes a bed sheet and hangs part of it over the window cut into the door of his cell. He jammed the rail of the door with ripped up pieces of cardboard so it was hard to get in. Yeah. own blood to write John 316 on the wall of his cell. Then he drew a crude pyramid with his blood and wrote Illuminati underneath it.

Oh, boy. So there's that. Then he left several handwritten notes by the side of his Bible. He also made large stigmata-like marks in blood on both of his feet. Then he stripped naked, poured several bottles of shampoo from the prison canteen all over the floor, and picked up another part of the bed sheet, which he had twisted tightly into a rope, tied one end of the twisted sheet to the top of one of the vertical slats of the window across from the door to his cell. But the crossbar was only window across from the door to his cell. But the crossbar was only five feet from the door. There was also a metal desk directly beneath it with a metal chair next to it that

had been bolted to the wall. So he rolled up some of the towels, stuck them through the crossbar so that the twisted sheet wouldn't slide down the vertical slat. Then he tied another end of the sheet around his neck and he hung himself hanged himself whatever um cold to the touch by the time they found him the soap was to keep people

from being able to lift it to rescue got him on time yeah that's why he jammed cardboard in the cell thing too he wanted it to take longer so he could die serious dead ass here no that's that's not a cry for help that That's deadass serious. So he wrote a note for his girlfriend, said, you've always been my soulmate, and I want you to love life and know I'm always with you. I love you so much, and you are an angel. And then he told her in parentheses, you're rich. So that's interesting. You're rich.

Why is he rich? Why is she rich? One second here. We'll talk about that. Very quickly, though, not having a fun time in prison here at all. I mean, he's an asshole here, so it's hard to feel bad for him. It really is. It's hard to feel any sympathy for the guy who's going around killing people and shooting his friends in the eye.

But, I mean, I do feel bad for these people. Oh, God, it's got to be so long. Aaron Hernandez, director of the Bud Seelig Sports Law and Business Program at the Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law in Phoenix. Aaron Hernandez, a salesperson at Hesperia Car Wash in California. Aaron Hernandez, lead architect at at Hesperia Car Wash in California. Aaron Hernandez, lead architect at Symantec in Georgia. Aaron Hernandez, CTO at the 7th Spark Company, blockchain and full stack developer and crypto investor in Manhattan Beach. And finally, Aaron Hernandez, major league or minor league pitcher at this point for the Los Angeles Angels. He pitches, I think, double A right there.

And this poor bastard, I feel terrible for him. He's an athlete, for Christ's sake. So why is she rich? One inmate told prison officials Aaron mentioned a rumor that had been going around that if an inmate had an open appeal and died in prison, he would be acquitted of that charge and rendered innocent. He is appealing the Oden Lloyd decision at this time. The rumor is actually true. It is. It's true. According to this deal here, abatement ab initio, it means from the beginning, the moment of Aaron's last breath was also the moment for which his conviction for Odin Lloyd's murder was rendered void. And if Aaron was free and clear of every murder he'd been accused of, it stands to reason that the Patriots, who'd avoided his contract guarantees after his arrest, owed the millions of dollars that they refused to pay Aaron to his now fiance.

Right. So that's what happened. refused to pay Aaron to his now fiance. Right. So that's what happened. He also found, and his girlfriend will deny it, but it comes out later as true, he left a note for Kyle Kennedy as well.

He sure did. He did. Also, Aaron's brother said that Aaron had come out as gay to their mom recently. I think that's what he meant in that phone call. I can't even be honest with you. I can't tell you anything. That's what it was. This is from his brother.

Aaron was like, Mom, you're going to die never knowing your son. They started bickering. All of a sudden they have this conversation. They're both flooded with tears across from each other. And hear the weight of what's on what my brother's expressing. And for a mother to be looking at it across the scratched glass in the zone, seeing your son who would have never anticipated being in this situation, sharing this news. He said it was never about accepting or anything. It was never about whether or not she'll accept him. That's her son. She loves him to death. Wow.

Now, his ex-fiance says, No, that's bullshit. I saw no indication that he was gay or homosexual. I wish I had known how he felt just so we could have talked about it. I wouldn't have disowned him. I would have been supportive. I can't fault him if he was feeling that way. supportive i can't fault him if he was feeling that way um but an old college girlfriend said she thought aaron was gay when she taught caught him texting other men in college

he said no homo all the time he would say this stuff and he didn't put no homo at the end of it so i thought he must be gay so he was asking people to go get an ice cream cone and then say no homo yeah no homo so his lawyer also george the untire said aaron and i talked about his sexuality this man was clearly gay and acknowledged it acknowledged the immense pain that it caused him i think he also came out of a culture that was so negative about gay people that he exhibited some self-hatred, obviously. Yeah. In addition to this, they find out once they test him at the end, they find out researchers at Boston University announce that the examination of his brain,

not only did he exhibit the symptoms of CTE, he showed stage 3 CTE, the worst case ever seen in a player as young as Hernandez at the time ever. He had like Chris Benoit's brain, basically. Aaron's brain, the researcher said, was totally mangled. Worst CTE ever. Putting brain from way back. So fucked and fucked and fucked again.

Can't get enough of Aaron Hernandez? Well, there's not much out there. You can get his Patriots jerseys on eBay. Really? Yeah, the Pats jerseys, $39.99. You can get them on eBay. It's a decent deal. Either number 81 or number 85.

Hey! It'll be $40.50 if you want that old school red one that they had from the old unis at the throwbacks. So you can get that. And that, everybody, is Aaron Hernandez. school red one that they had from the old unis at the throwbacks so you can get that and that everybody is aaron hernandez what a story it was man it's a crazy fucking story man do you crazy do you think without the the the gay being gay he would have been so frustrated i think he was gay and the cte he he was unable to process it. And does that make sense?

I think he was frustrated already, but the CTE, he was unable to process the frustration. It's a cocktail because you got to add in all the abuse he suffers as a kid makes him go out and not be abused. So I'll go out. I'll be the aggressor. I'll do that shit. So you add that in with the sexuality and with the he was molested when he was a kid and with the powerlessness of that with a not to get too psychological here but when you add it all together most people though when they can achieve a place of stability right and have a girlfriend and a baby and a if he's

gay obviously that's not going to help because if you're gay you're not going to ever be happy with a girlfriend and you know that's not what you want so why would you be happy with that if you were you know if you're straight you wouldn't be happy sitting there with a guy you have to sleep with every night either if i had a husband yeah i'd be fucking terrible i'd be so mad at that i don't want to fuck this guy anymore so i could see that i don't i think it's a big giant cocktail and i think when you add hardcore brain damage into it i think anything's possible and then you add booze and then you add these decisions where you're like i'll just shoot him i'll fire a gun out the window

i'll shoot a guy a mile from my house leave the shell casings not clean it up properly no problems it's something he the the fame and like the the spotlight it all was too much to handle too i think it was everything i think he just thought that he could do whatever the fuck he wanted it seemed like he was gonna and he he got away with a bunch of stuff so he thought he'd never get caught and then once he did he was just in shock about it i don't think he knew how to handle it and uh he thought of like oh prison is prison is fine. I'm like a gangbanger. I can handle that. But then he realized, hey, prison sucks.

I lived in a 7,000 square foot house two fucking days ago. Prison sucks. This place blows. And if I get denied on my appeal, then she gets nothing. I'm going to be here forever anyway. I got to make sure that I take care of somebody. Do at least somebody something nice. He's got a daughter.

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