Crime in Sports - #353 - Crazy Father, Stupid Son - DeShawn Stevenson

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

This week, we catch up with a modern guy, who had a hard time, from the start. Mainly because he didn't know his father, but that was probably a good thing, considering how absolutely insane his father turned out to be. He came to the NBA right out of high school, but never quite became the star he thought he'd be. He did turn out to be one of the luckiest guys, to get away with what he did, and receive such a minimal penalty. You'll be yelling "450" at every dumb thing you see, from now on!!Be lucky you never met your father, get away with a terrible crime, and don't seem to even feel bad about it, and get some of the dumbest tattoos possible with DeShawn Stevenson!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Young fellas? Younger fellas and just wild people. So let's talk this week about Deshaun Stevenson. Remember Deshaun Stevenson? remember deshaun stevenson basketball player there you go jimmy yes indeed yeah okay and uh pacers he played for everybody he was one of these guys that would play two years and two years and two years just bounce around all over ever in indiana he might have been i can't remember he played for like six teams i know dallas i remember uh a couple others, but I don't know.

I think maybe Indiana, though. That sounds right to me also. It feels right. It feels. I can see him in that striped uniform. You know what I mean? I can see the name across the shoulder. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Deshaun here, born April 3rd, 1981. Oh. So, yeah, younger cat. He's 42 nowadays. He's my age, yeah. Yeah, there you go. Um, he, uh, he, Jesus Christ, he's born in Fresno, California. He goes to high school in, uh, in Eastern California at Washington union here.

Now to talk about him, to know about Deshaun, you need to know about Deshaun's father because that's really, that's really a lot of this episode the craziness comes from his dad now his dad his dad's name is Daryl C. Stevenson and he was a good high school basketball and football player oh I mean Deshaun's 6'5 210 pounds and a great athlete obviously so a little bit of athleticism he's going to play. A little bit, yeah. So in his 1980, Jesus, his dad was young too. He's born in 81. And in his dad's high school yearbook in 1980, right then,

for him under his, you know, like what he wants to be or whatever it says, pro player. So he wants to be a pro player. He doesn't quite get there. Well, um, doesn't quite get there. He has, his dad's got some serious mental illness is the problem. Oh, some bad mental illness that leads to some very crazy acts that he was. He was a high school football player.

Yeah. His dad played football and basketball and, um, he, um, I don't know if he got hit in the head or what, but he's a fucking mess here. He said, Deshaun said when he was drafted, he said, quote, I can't really say nothing about him. I never knew him. Oh, no. And there's a reason for that. Anyway, he's apparently his dad was a very talented player, but his former coach said that he had a lot of potential, but was a terrible student. So he could never put the two together to be able to go to college and that sort of thing here.

Um, his father was a, a rebounder and an inside player. Very, very tough physical player. Yeah. Yeah. Um, scouts never really saw him um they said that he he never refined his game into anything more than just being kind of a rebounder um and all like back then the summer leagues and shit like that his coach said quote those things weren't available to daryl daryl was a way above average, but he never had the opportunity to have the exposure or the experience.

And that comes from failing out, being bad at it? Also, just that there wasn't a lot of that back then. Nowadays, you've got a guy who's got physical talent. Oh, forget it. He's in every clinic there is since he's eight. He's in clinics. He's in summer leagues. He's in all these where he's being exposed.

And they're being exposed to high-level coaching and learning things. And he didn't have any of that. He just was playing for the school and, you know, didn't have it really – couldn't refine what he had ever. Couldn't do it every day. No, he didn't have – it just wasn't available for him. Now, there's the other problem. Three weeks before graduation, I guess Daryl decided that he didn't really care about any of this. He just drops out of school. Three weeks before?

Three weeks before. Now, I don't know if that is he's not going to graduate anyway, so he drops out, which makes a lot of sense. Like, what am I going to come for the last three weeks for nothing? Right. What am I doing here? That's good money after bad at this point, right? I'm going to have to be here next year anyway. this well he no he's not he's not coming back he just drops out um he finds work as a maintenance man okay and now deshaun is born in april 3rd 1981 so not too far after that so right now, yeah. It's coming clear into picture what's going on here. She was probably pregnant when he dropped out. Or got pregnant that summer.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Knocked her up that summer, and then now he's a maintenance man because he's got a baby on the way type of deal. So his mother here, this is Daryl's or Deshahawn's mother i'm sorry janiece here she is the one who raises um deshawn all by herself because daryl plays no role at all in his son's life no and there's a reason for that he's okay he's busy as we'll talk about here he's got shit to do he's got a lot of shit to do here so um this one of deshaun's coaches said his mom has been his mother and father until his stepfather came into the picture apparently his stepfather was it was a better

you know good male influence on him yeah so a year after deshaun is born daryl is hospitalized for threatening family members not deshaun his like his mom his mom and you know his nuclear family there so he is uh hospitalized for threatening family members and allegedly attacking his brother with a butcher knife okay so daryl's got some issues yeah yeah a year ago he's like a raw basketball talent and now he's a maintenance guy who is attacking his brother with a butcher knife it's not i don't think it's all apart fast yeah it's not working out probably still wearing his letterman jacket you know what i mean with like a basketball and a football on it and he's yeah and a butcher knife he's gonna get that patch on it next you get a basketball a football a little track little

you know little winged feet and then a little butcher knife icp hatchet man yeah it's it's it's like a boy scout when you win a when you get a medal or a fucking whatever they get, patches. I don't know. I was never a Boy Scout. But they get some reward for learning shit. So he's learning his butcher knife skills. Yeah. Now, two months after being released from a Fresno County mental health facility, Darryl has more problems.

Oh. a Fresno County mental health facility, Daryl has more problems. Well, he and a guy named Kenneth Brown are arrested by Fresno police in the robbery of a mobile gas station. So, yeah, Fred's Mobile Station at 1680 West Olive Avenue in Fresno here. Jesus. They apparently are robbing gas stations now, which is pretty low. That's desperate man stuff. That's crackhead shit when you're robbing gas stations. That's man on the run shit.

Yeah, that's bad. You have nothing. Again, let's go to the wire and bring up Omar here. Omar's not robbing gas stations. You know what I mean? I'd say robbing drug dealers is way up the food chainbing gas stations you know what I mean that's I'd say robbing drug dealers is way up the food chain above gas stations

gas stations is like I mean one of the people like somebody Bubbles is hanging out with would rob a fucking gas station to get a fix you know that would be

it's not great even the drug dealer because there's a plan and there's clever involved in that there's a reason yeah you set somebody up all this they're like man

let's just rob that gas station it's not a good business model it's not working that's a guy with a quarter tank that's not yeah exactly well like now now he's got to go somewhere else and buy gas too because he didn't even fill up there he just stole stole money he's gonna go give that to a fucking chevron now yeah so his mother daryl's mother not deshawn's mother daryl's deshawn's, Daryl's mother, not Deshawn's mother, Deshawn's dad, Daryl. Grandma. Deshawn's dad, Daryl's mom. Okay? Jesus.

That's grandma. Fucking confusing. Yeah. Deshawn's grandma, Clara Stevenson. She begged the judge to reduce the bail for her son here. Daryl is the youngest of her seven kids, by the way. Oh, he's the baby. he's the baby he's the baby uh she said he's sorry he made a mistake you robbed a gas station that's more than a mistake

hell of a mistake yeah he didn't like run over whoopsie yeah he didn't like uh do a burnout do a donut in someone's flower beds or something he robbed a gas station this is that's a mistake he didn't like knock down somebody's mailbox with a baseball bat. That's a mistake. He's a dumb kid. This is, you held up a gas station. This is armed robbery.

It's a different thing. She said, quote, I just don't think that it would be done again. I really don't. She said, he wouldn't do it again. He can't do it two times. Yeah. Nobody robs do it two times. Nobody robs a gas station twice.

And I'm sure most people, the first time they rob a gas station is when they get caught. It's not the 18th time and they just got unlucky that time. So either you're a terrible criminal or you've done this a lot and your numbers just ran out, your luck ran out. They've done a pretty good job at making gas stations not a a viable target any longer yeah yeah the cameras everywhere cameras uh they drop little ones somebody yeah yeah they have they work there yeah yeah it's a big safe there's no reason to rob that place anymore no no people still do though yeah they still do they still do i think it's just because they're open late there's's nothing else to rob at 3 in the morning. It's the only thing with one person in it at 3 a.m. That's what I mean.

No one else has cash and one guy at 3 a.m. guarding it. There's always more than that to it. Now, she told the doctors that Daryl, at about the age of 18, had told her, quote, something is wrong with me mother oh boy that's not good he oh jesus this guy gets worse to me um he complained of hallucinations that's that that's the line that they draw by the way and like mental illness between like you know whether you're sane or not is Were you seeing and hearing shit? When you are, that's like, oh, okay.

Well, you're really crazy then. You're actually... You hear voices and beings. Yeah, you're not in reality at that point. Anything else is like you may have weird thoughts, but you're still in reality. That's like, oh, you saw Rainbow Bright come and say hi to you. That's a completely different level of mental illness. So he also began displaying destructive behavior at that point. She said at one point he smashed all of his trophies that he had won over the years,

just destroyed them. So that's either something where he did that all to motivate himself to be better. These trophies mean nothing to me, man. It's this year's championship or nothing. No, I'm going to re-fuck that. I'm going to win all the new trophies now. I'm going to replace these with the NBA MVP trophy. That's not what happened.

But destroying all of your accolades is like that's destroying yourself. You're erasing yourself. You're erasing any legacy that you had as, I'm not this anymore and I don't care. That's not a good mental sign when someone destroys all their fucking accolades. So he ends up in this trial based on all of this. He ends up being found incompetent to stand trial. For the wow. Because he's robbery. Wow. For the robbery?

Yeah, because he's seeing shit and destroying his trophies and being weird. And he winds up in the Atascadero State Hospital instead. Oh, boy. Yes. And psychiatrists there diagnose him as paranoid schizophrenic, which is, you know, that's a that's a rough diagnosis yeah that's uh that's a danger that's yeah that's your paranoid schizophrenia is like the that's the one thing in court nowadays that'll get you out of trial if they believe you

but they never even believe you this is uh yeah they're like yeah right paranoid this guy i really think he's a paranoid schizophrenic, though. There's underlying shit, too. There's more than that. Yeah, I think he's been hit in the head a lot. I think he might have had some concussions as a child. He's been playing football back then when nobody would, you know, you'd have to tough it out. I think there's a lot of fucked up people from that.

He's also got outward rage that he's exercising to hurt and damage things. Things. He's scaring his family. He's attacking his brother with a butcher knife, robbing a gas station. His decision-making is not good. A doctor at the hospital noted, quote, he continues to hold grandiose beliefs such as being selected for a professional football contract. Oh, boy.

He's telling them in the hospital that he's got to go. He's checking his watch. I have to go because training camp is starting, and I've been drafted. You've got to wrap this up quick. The Bengals have drafted me, and I need to get to Cincinnati ASAP. You've got to study the playbook. Yeah, the coach is going to be pissed is what I'm saying. It's on you guys. You know study the playbook. Yeah. Coach is going to be pissed is what I'm saying. So we really need to.

It's on you guys. You know what I'm saying? So that's a problem when someone's doing that. So they're like, he's like in old movies, they'd show like a mental hospital and like one guy has a Napoleon hat on and he walks around thinking he's, you know, like fake shit. Like he's that guy. He's walking around with like just no jersey jersey just shoulder pads and a helmet and like a hospital gown underneath it going

coach am i going in and they're like not this series buddy sit down yeah maybe in the third quarter he's like all right he goes and like sits on a bench all excitedly he's out of his fucking mind yeah that's crazy um he's eventually placed on probation here. Okay. Placed on probation. But again, he's arrested. Oh, no. For kidnapping a woman in 1985.

Does some lady. Random person. Nobody that's involved in the story. But I mean, and then he's jailed in April of 86 again. So he's got problems. He's an issue. And it's lucky, honestly, that he's not around Deshaun because by the time 86 he's going into jail, Deshaun's four years old at that point. And he's in a mental hospital kidnapping women.

He's not suited to be a parent at this moment in time. So I'm actually happy for Deshaun that he doesn't have to deal with this guy. Better just to have a single parent than a crazy parent. So his mother was there to bring him home when he's paroled in October of 1992. So he's in jail for six years and change in prison over this kidnapping. So I think they let him go on the, uh, on the gas station and all that kind of shit. And then here he is kidnapping people. Yeah. If you're a danger to the gas station, you're just a danger to the money and we can give you a break, whatever. Nobody got hurt, but this is, this is dead serious. What were you going to do with her? That's what's fucking crazy. Yeah. What were you doing? That's the other thing.

Yeah. Where were you taking her and for why? So apparently July 3rd, 1993, eight months after he's been paroled, he's living with his mother, with Clara, and the two of them argue over money. Oh, no. Okay. This is July 3rd, 1993. They argue over money, and apparently, Jesus Christ, he was, they end up finding him the next day, driving his mom's car, high as fuck on cocaine, just wasted. He is arrested.

He fires a handgun into the air, which will draw the attention of police, especially when you're driving erratically high on coke. Yeah. It'll draw the cops' attention. So he draws some attention. The cops get him. They find a loaded gun, crack crack and a crack pipe in the car and he's all sorts of fucked up and he's on parole for robbery kidnapping and battery fantastic and he tells the cops oh uh by the way i may have killed my mother that's a thing yeah

you might want to check back at the house because i pretty sure i killed my mother put her in a chokehold we got in a bit of an argument and uh i think she might be dead so you might want to check on her oh god yeah so she is dead she he strangled her to death 64 year old clara the mom who got him out of shit holy shit been taking care of him and the only person who you know is doing all this shit for him strangled her oh my god yep left her in the house dead um which is obviously horrible um so he's charged with murder um in the commission of an attempted robbery also charged with using a firearm in a negligent manner right yeah firing that in there yeah yeah being a felon under in the possession of a firearm

being under the influence of drugs and driving possess possessing a hypodermic needle, possessing cocaine and taking personal property belonging to his mother. Bail is set at three hundred and seven thousand dollars. That seems low. Holy fucking shit. Now, obviously, he hasn't been much of a father to Deshaun. Deshaun's 12 at this point, and he's just murdered his grandmother. So there's not really. Whether or not he's a dad, I wonder if Clara's been in his life at all.

She's got to be, right? I would hope so. I mean, maybe. I don't know. I mean, she seems like a nice lady, I guess. I mean, she's been trying to take care of this guy, but who knows, man. So now, when he was three, Deshaun, so this would be 1985, right before, yeah, 85, right before, 84. So this is in the in-between time when he gets out of the mental hospital and before he's arrested for kidnapping Daryl.

Daryl signed a court order agreeing that he had a duty to support his son. But he was unemployed, in and out of psychiatric hospitals and always had criminal charges over him. So he never made any child support payments. He never did anything. So you could have added that as an extra charge, I guess. But of course, yeah, there you go. By early 1994, a couple of months after the murder here, six months later, doctors are saying that he demonstrated a thought disorder

too profound to allow for a mental status evaluation. We've never seen this before. He just said he's so fucked up that we can't just do a regular evaluation on him. We need to have him for six months. We need to study this guy. We have no clue what his brain is doing because like an evaluation is a shorter thing for like a court evaluation yeah we need microscopes and brain scans for this is this is we need a team this is a team effort here we need

we need specialists that like are doing different shit that's what we need here. So it's so bad that a judge finally, just because it's not working, in September, so way later than a year and change later, a judge rules him incompetent to stand trial for murder of his mother. And he is sent to the Napa State Hospital. How long? Until he's sane enough to stand trial is how they're doing so he that's not his sentence for the murder that's his like well we're gonna hang on to you until we can sentence you for the murder clearly we can't let you walk the streets and um you know we have to put you somewhere and so we're putting you in here try to get you better get you on some medication until we can figure out how to put you in prison so holy shit finally in 1995 here so i mean that's a couple it

took a couple years for this to happen he is finally able to plead guilty to second degree murder he apparently felt terrible about it i'm sure yeah he felt bad about it i mean he told the cops pretty much right away when they pulled him over he's like yeah yeah you're gonna find a crack pipe and a gun and all that but yeah even more that ain't nothing strangled my mom so there's that and uh the judge sentenced him sentences him to you sir may fuck off 15 years in prison which is the maximum punishment for that so yeah um he's obviously got he's in uh corcoran which isn't great um no not great uh he does have tattooed on his chest across his chest he has one tattoo and it's deshawn so i at some point he went to the tattoo artist and said please put deshawn on my chest but i love my son i've never seen him never seen him no we're not going to pay a dime for him but i will certainly tattoo his name on my chest so

he's apparently thinking about his son at some point here but that's not helping young deshawn when he needs a father not spent that money on the tattoo and just sent it to the mom here i thought about getting a tattoo. Instead, have this. Tell Deshaun I want to have a tattoo on my chest, but here's some macaroni and cheese money instead. Like, you know what I'm saying? Here's some. But that would be a sane decision. And he clearly is not there.

Clearly not. Now. And then finally, at the age of 36, which is not very old. That's a very young man. Daryl dies in Corcoran State Prison of cancer. Is that right? Yes. Died of lung cancer at 36, which is very young to die of lung cancer.

Honestly. He had to have been smoking since his mom was eight. That's the only thing I can imagine. Or just smoking so heavy i don't know or just he's just genetically not set up for that but i mean he's certainly 36 is young set up for life so for yeah his whole system is all fucked up but he played basketball great apparently wow very very sad shit so he's dead and uh this is before Deshawn's doing anything. He's dead.

What a waste of life. Yep. He's 15, Deshawn, when his dad dies. So that is quite sad. Depressing as fuck, yeah. Yeah, very depressing. So now Deshawn, he ends up establishing residency with his godparents so he could play at the school where his father played. Oh.

That's what he wants to do, which is Washington Union. One of the coaches said, quote, I don't know if there's a coincidence or any tie to the school emotionally, but I'd say it was mostly due to Coach Webb. There's a coach here. And so he played varsity as a freshman. Deshaun did. So is that right? Yeah, he's he was a they looked at him. Yeah, he's real good.

And they looked at him as a prodigy. So he was also in a traveling summer league as well. So he's doing all of the things that his father didn't do. College recruiters would come to see him play. I mean, specifically to see Deshaun play. This is not like a big powerhouse high school that produces. He's not going there because it's like, oh, the scouts are always there because it's always pumping out draft picks or anything.

This is just he's really good, and they're interested in him here. In his junior year, Deshaun led his teams of Division III team all the way to a state championship. Awesome. And, yeah, he ends up committing because they commit at the end of their junior year a lot if they're a big recruit. He ends up committing to play for Kansas, which is a huge program. Yeah. Yeah, giant for Roy Williams at the time.

Great. And Roy Williams, the coach called him, said Deshaun was Roy Williams' most gifted recruit ever. Ever. That I've ever seen. And he's had a lot. I mean, he had Danny Manning. He had quite a few players. The wait is over.

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9.7 rebounds, so 30 and 10. 20 and 10 is fantastic. 30 and 10 is silly. And 6.2 assists per game. My God. That seems ridiculous. Was he playing power forward? Oh, no, that was high school.

That was high school. I'm sorry. That wasn't college. That was high school. That feels like a wrecker of some sort. Yeah, no, that gets you recruited by all the big schools like Kansas here. So he was ranked the third best high school prospect in the nation that year, which is pretty impressive. Not too shabby.

In 1999, by the way, this had Darius Miles and Zach Randolph and all that kind of shit. Darius Miles was the number two prospect. Don't know who one was here. So he was invited to the McDonald's All-Star Game, which is the big, that's the big

one, has all the guys in it, as well as the high school dunk contest. So, yeah, not bad. Also on that team were Kirk Heinrich, Nick Collison, Drew Gooden, a lot of guys who played the NBA and were big college stars. Zach Randolph was the MVP of that game with 23 points and 13 rebounds. Right, gangster. Yeah, but Stevenson had 25 points and led all scorers. Really? And he also

won the dunk contest. Oh. So he's making, yeah, he's getting attention. People are noticing him. 25 points in this game and winning the dunk contest. You go, oh, who's that? He thought about possibly skipping college and declaring his eligibility for the pro draft right

now shit um his mom though was upset about that didn't like that his mom his mom said this is dividing my family apart she told the press here she said this is reality that something like this can come between a mother and a son it's sad so they're actually fighting about it yeah um interesting a lot of people thought he should go pro so you should do it does it typically technically uh typically uh historically do you lose money by going to the nba early like that do you think depends on where you're drafted yeah i mean if you're kevin garnett and you're drafted up high fuck no if you're lebron j James and you're number one overall, you're getting paid. But if you don't go to college, a lot of these guys, the problem is they'll come out and then they get drafted in, like, the end of the second round.

And they have no guaranteed money and they have no guaranteed contract. And they're playing in Europe or, you know, trying to stay in the G League or whatever the next year. That's kind of the problem. It's a little better now because they have the G League and they have all these different leagues. So there's a lot of guys that get paychecks for playing basketball that aren't in the NBA that don't have to go to Europe now. You've never heard of them.

You've never heard of them, but it happens a lot now. So that's good. That's good for basketball because a lot of these guys slip through the cracks. We've heard of tons of guys like that. And it's a bummer that you can work so hard and be good at basketball and make no fucking money at it at all. Yeah, no, you're working at UPS, and then you're trying to shoot hoops. I mean, that's what it is.

You're amazing. You're not LeBron, but you'll blow me away at the fucking gym at a pickup game. I'm impressed. Yeah, and one of his coaches said, It's all about money once you get to that level. If someone's going to pick you in the first round, that's a no-brainer. It is. It's guaranteed millions of dollars.

If you go to college, you're guaranteed ugats. You blow your knee out in your freshman year, and it's over for you. You have nothing. So it's hard to turn down guaranteed millions of dollars at 18, 19 years old. Yeah, and who's to say that this, I mean, granted, he's probably going to translate to college life, but who's to say that his game doesn't, you know what I mean? What if it doesn't translate to college? What if you're not that good in college?

Because if you're not that good in college and you go to the NBA, if you're not good in college, you're not going to the NBA. The other problem is you're not in control of everything in college. You're not in control of your game. The coach is in control of a team. you're not in control of your game you the coach is in control of a team the coach is in control all this shit so you don't have you have you don't get to do nothing yeah you you could you could go there with the best of intentions and trying real hard but the the way the the the setup the way the coach play the way the offense is isn't to your abilities and you're fucked basically so you look like shit there that happens to guys a lot well you know a lot of guys hated playing for bobby knight for that reason

because they weren't allowed to be loose and show what they could do so they hated it so anyway deshawn he has a pretty bad sat score is the other problem so he did get some of dad's jeans yeah not not really digging the school work too much so he spends weeks taking an sat prep class he says and working with a private tutor to up his score to take it retake it and you know that way he can get right into kansas and doesn't have to do the you know academic eligibility fucking probation bullshit so the problem is when he retakes his test he has a great score just a perfect i mean not perfect but just a an incredible jump in the score i mean to where wow this is crazy like yeah you know to the point where it caught the attention of the educational testing service which red flagged his test

which made him temporarily ineligible to play right which nowadays we know what they used to do is they used to have someone else take your test for you they now they we we found that shit out when we did that uh the one episode on the uh the lori laughlin and all that shit in there oh yeah we talked about that yeah yeah they'd have people literally just take your sat for you so apparently he had someone very smart take his sat for him and um allegedly he maybe should have done that the first try though made him ineligible to play um yeah uh he could have appealed but he would have to explain how he went from a 450 on his sat to an 1150 they were like that's a really big jump like how'd you get a 700 point jump that's yeah like

you got a lot smarter is what that is and we we don't think that's true um maybe just ask him one of the questions he got right well on the other hand too he could have not he could have studied poorly for the first one in his defense he could have studied poorly and not fucking tried in the first one just be like i play basketball i don't care and then went wow 450 sucks and then if you actually spent weeks studying and actually trying maybe you could get it up to an 1150 i don't know but probably not number one and number two they're like you didn't do that and rather than showing his work he could have he could have appealed this decision that's the thing that he had the recourse to appeal this decision, show, no, no, no, I did 10 weeks of prep,

and here's my notes, and here's my teachers and tutors and all that shit. But instead, he said, I'm eligible for the draft. Fuck it. Never mind. Never mind. He just said, yeah, you got me. Never mind is what he said. Didn't even appeal the decision.

Fuck this. I'm done. Yeah, you got me fuck school before he even takes a step on campus he's already in trouble and can't stay there has to leave hysterical which is pretty fucking funny so the 2000 nba draft this is here and um it is um you know it's the draft this is uh kenyon mart is, you know, it's the draft. This is Kenyon Martin is the top pick in that draft. Darius Miles. Well, let's see here, Jimmy.

Who's number two in the draft since I already gave you one? Kenyon Martin, number one to New Jersey. Oh, my God. You'll never get number two. I would never get it. Was it Indiana that picked it, though? No, Vancouver picked second. Oh, God, Jesus.

I would never know. Stroh-Miles Swift, Jimmy. Really it, though? No, Vancouver picked second. Oh, God, Jesus. I would never know. Strohmile Swift, Jimmy. Really? Remember him? No. He played for nine years in the league, Strohmile Swift. Yeah, but just wasn't that great of a player.

That was the problem with him. 8.4 points a game. Three is Darius Miles. Jesus. Marcus Fizer for Mike Miller. Orlando, white guy. Remember him? Yeah, I do. Wow. White guy. Remember him? Yeah, I do.

What a terrible draft. This is a bad draft. Damar Johnson, number six. Chris Mim, number seven. What? Big, goofy center. Jamal Crawford, number eight. Played for a long time.

20 fucking years in the league he played for. That's not bad. Jesus Christ. Etan Thomas. Courtney Alexander. Mateen Cleaves from Michigan State. This is brutal, man. That's not bad. Jesus Christ. Etan Thomas. Courtney Alexander. Mateen Cleaves from Michigan State. This is brutal, man. This is a bad.

Jason Collier. Turkoglu was in that draft. That's not bad. Desmond Mason. Quentin Richardson. Yeah? At 18. Wait, what?

Quentin Richardson to the Clippers. Oh, yeah. That year. Jamal. I was mixing it up with McCracken because they both played for Arizona teams. Jamal McGlore. Oh, my God. Speedy Claxton. What?

There's a man named Speedy that was drafted? Yeah, yeah. Speedy. Morris Peterson. Moe Pete. Don L. Harvey. Finally, 23rd overall. This is the draft you want to be in because there's nobody in it.

I could have gotten selected in this draft. Either one of us could have gone in the top round. I think they would have gone, well, I mean, 6-4. That's not bad. I don't know if he can play at all. But Jimmy, he's real tiny, and he's declaring for the draft. He's got to have balls the size of fucking watermelons. So he must be fast.

So finally, 23 overall. Utah selects Deshaun Stevenson in this draft. Also after that, the Suns, their big selection this year. Yeah. Oh, these late fucking 90s, early 2000s Suns. It's a center. Oh. Who do you think it is?

Really? I have no fucking idea. Jake Socolitis. Remember him? Oh, my God. They picked Socolitis, their first pick? First round. But there's nobody else.

After him was nobody. So, I mean, it doesn't matter yet. Mark Madsen going to the Lakers. That is so depressing. That is terrible. So, he is drafted right out of high school in the first round so he's going to have some guaranteed money yeah and um i'm going to say it right now that's grace for him absolutely you give money to a guy that scores a 450 he's dumb as shit this is going to go so bad

dead father uh minuscule microscopic sat score fucking a let's do this that's grace i think here someone's giving this guy money miniscule microscopic SAT score. Fucking A. Let's do this. That's grace, I think, here. Someone's giving this guy money. Fucking A. Fucking A.

That's grace. That's the only way to say it here. It's the only way. This is his only happy day so far in his life. Oh, it's a mess. Look at this fucking guy. He's a disaster. Yeah, dad just died like three years ago or something his dad's dead grandma's dead too don't forget that his mental patient father murked his mom his

grandma crazy dad killed my grandma then had a fucking chase down with the cops where he had crack rocks and shit and then died in jail with my name tattooed across his chest and then he had to fight with his mom to get this happy day. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he didn't. Well, I think his mom won because he agreed to go to college. And then the SAT debacle, he was like, see, that's why I said I was going to the pros. Listen to me.

I know what I'm talking about, Ma. I know me better than me. Oh, I do. I do. So draft night it is. That's grace him walking out and you know knowing he's a utah a utah jazz a jazz a jazz a member of the jazz which makes it sound like a band he's in see him in like a tuxedo playing a horn um so that night is his first it's nice

it's his first night as an nba player and his first night as a police problem as well. So, oh God, Jesus, we'll call this grow up night for Deshaun. This is all grown up night here. This is, I got drafted, I got arrested, I got it all. He's getting baptized today. That's it. He might as well have gone and like fucking, you know, did like a born again service, dunked himself in a pond or some shit. I don't know.

So he was attending a high school basketball game on draft day. What are you doing? Because he was in high school a month and a half ago. So he's not separated far enough from high school to say you're a professional basketball player. That's not you anymore. No. Two hours ago, that was you. You're not that anymore.

You're so much better than this. Well, he's at a game in Clovis, California at Buchanan High School where he's signing autographs. Okay. Sounds nice. He's showing up to feel like big man. That's why he's signing autographs. Okay. Sounds nice. He's showing up to feel like big man. That's why he's showing up. Is he booked to sign autographs or did he just show up? No, no, no, no.

You're not allowed to do that back then. He's just showing up to see a game and have everybody go, oh, shit, that's Deshaun Stevenson. He just got drafted by the Jazz like two hours ago. Yeah. If he was better, he'd have been at the draft and not have to be here. Right. But they knew he wasn't going to be top 10, so here he is.

So he's doing this. Apparently, a brawl breaks out in the- For what? I mean, who knows? Well, he claims he was jumped by five people. Uh-huh. Yeah. Is what he claims, which is pretty fucking funny.

But this is why you don't go back home after you – everybody there knows that you have millions of dollars. Someone's going to be like, man, fuck Deshaun Stevenson. Someone's going to say that. Out of 500 people, there's going to be two motherfuckers standing there going, man, fuck him. He's not so fucking great. For sure. Fuck that motherfucker. That's not so fucking great. For sure. Fuck that motherfucker. That's just anywhere you go.

And you grew up around this time. I grew up around this time. That's exactly what dudes did then. Oh, absolutely. It's probably worse now. I'm sure it is. It absolutely existed then. This is in the 90s.

This is all of the player-hater shit. This is what it was. Yeah, that's what it is. It's the Chappelle Show, the hater's ball. Player-hater's gonna it's the chapelle show the haters ball it's all that shit it's man fuck him yeah look at him a millionaire fucking nba player thinks he's hot shit fuck him he ain't shit he ain't shit i'll show him he ain't shit that's what it's just a human there's always five percent of the population are he ain't shit guys, and that's just what it is. It's 5%. He ain't shit.

Fuck him. That's 5% of people. You can label them in people you know in your circle that aren't impressed with anything. But that just means that if there are 100 people in a room, there are five of those dudes, and they're dangerous. Yep, and most of them are going to be pussies that are saying that under their breath to themselves. But one out of five, maybe two, maybe they can convince the guy with them. Yep. Are like, man, fuck him.

Let's show him that we're cool and not him. And two of the five of them are carrying a fucking blade or more dangerous. That's the other problem here. So witnesses say that he was, quote, at the center of a brawl involving 10 to 20 youths that broke out. I have to say it like Gambini. Otherwise, it's just it has to. It's always youths after that movie. What is a youth? So apparently this is in the middle of the gym at the conclusion of a high school basketball All-Star game.

Center ring, half court. He showed up and was right there. One custodian who was on duty said Stevenson was jumped. He got punched, then landed some punches of his own. This is the janitor. They got a guy standing there leaning on a mop with his jumpsuit on with his coveralls and they came in what do you think the newspaper came in the fresno b this is came in and said what do you think and this is joaquin lopez the the janitor it is that's his name and i love him

already i love joaquin lopez he's like he got jumped man i saw it he he know he till tell you all about it he said then four of them chased ste Stevenson up in the stands and beat on him before he got away. He jumped into the stands to get away. Apparently, a bunch of guys jumped on him. He fought back a little bit and then realized it was a losing effort and he was overwhelmed. So he took off up the stands and was caught up to and beaten before he was apparently eventually got away here. Yeah, that's what a 450 SAT score person does. They go into a place where there's no exit.

No, that's what they, yeah. No exit. This was a dumb, this is the type of move where you go, Jesus, what'd you get, a 450 on your SATs? What are you coming here for? Why would you run up the stairs? Yeah, well, first of all, have you ever seen a horror movie? The person running up the stairs is dead meat, unless it's Jamie Lee Curtis. They're dead.

The top of the bleachers is just a brick wall, man. Where are you going to go? Where are you going to go? He thought he could dip behind them, maybe, and run underneath them. Something like that. He's going to hide in them. I don't know. Maybe he was going to do like a, you know, they're on one bleacher.

He jumps back and forth, and they could really get away with him they don't know where he is he's going to run up he's running down how do we get him you don't go up bleachers man that's a bad place to run from someone don't run up and he shouldn't be here to begin with it's every decision is the decision of a 450 sap person and this is coming from someone who is also a i probably i don't know what it was i'm just saying i didn't graduate from high school so i'm not saying that but 450 does not seem good that's all i'm getting at i never took it but i bet i would have scored higher than 450 if someone said hey if you do decent on this test you get a full ride and go to kansas and do all that i would have been like fuck me where's that test let's get let's do this shit i'd have got a better score than 450 i'll tell you that right show me where show me the

material that's gonna be on it and i'll study the shit out of it and i'll i'll i'll beat it dude i didn't know how to make podcasts work neither of us did we figured it out because it was like oh we could do this and it's a right yeah let's how do we do that we figured it out. So another witness, Will Goldbeck, he's a – and also – oh, he said that a Fresno City College basketball coach, Denny I., escorted Stevenson to his new Lexus in the SUV – Lexus SUV in the parking lot. Yeah. So he's already got a car here. Good for him. As some of the combatants gave chase.

Wow. a car here then good for him as some of the combatants gave chase wow the coach said he got they got the coach got stevenson into his vehicle and stevenson drove away quickly yeah so the coach had to like help him escort him this is at a high school you're in the nba did you ever hear that remember that time when charles barkley went to that high school and a bunch of kids chased him into the parking lot, beating him up? No. No, because it never happened. There's a reason for that, because it never, ever happened. I was like, oh my God, this story's going to be great. Remember that time they chased Shaq down with five high school kids trying to beat him up while a city basketball coach fucking escorted him to his car and he drove away?

I don't remember that because he was going to bars trying to fuck women after he got drafted i'm sure acting like an adult yeah not 21 who you're in the nba go anyway what are you doing or have a party at your place have your friends over so easy yeah get go find some women go do things like that don't go to high school this is sad it's just sad what's the the vast majority of men's behavior is done to get to entice women you're in the nba you don't you don't go entice high school girls anymore get the fuck out of here absolutely no every that's every invention, you cross a bridge, you turn a light on, that's just because somebody wanted to see tits. That's it. Tesla was

sitting there going, I light this up, it's so nice, so bright, the tits are going to look so good. They're going to look so good in my light. You don't understand, the tits are going to glow. That's the only reason. And the women, they don't want to fuck me, huh? Yeah. All right, their big lit up they don't want to fuck me. Ah, yeah.

All right. Their big lit up tits are going to fuck me out every night. Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone so that he could call women to come over. So he could hook up with chicks. Yeah. He's like, I want to fuck these women, but they're too far to yell to. How do I get them here? A letter takes too long.

I send them a letter. They come four, five, six days from now. I'm horny now. I'll bury wires in the fucking ground all the way to her house. That's what I'll do. I have an idea. I have an idea. That's all it is. Henry Ford, same thing.

She is so far. If only there was a vehicle that could get me to her. Oh, man. But I need it fast. Yeah. How can I do it if I can just put it together? Fuck a horse. A horse isn't fast enough.

I'll be limp by then. Guys, line up. I'm just going to have the parts just come by on a thing. You just throw them on as they come by, okay? We're going to do it that way. It's faster. I'm sorry. No, no, just line up.

Well, get to pussy so much faster guys okay and they all had break and they all lined up and started putting fucking wheels on cars and figuring out what a carburetor was and shit more tits faster more tits faster you got it so i don't know what his his motivation has to be high school girls it is it has to be that's crazy that's crazy because you're in the nba but you're gonna get a lot of high school girls if you're you know he's only 18 i mean he's not it's not like he's 36 right it's not creepy and disgusting it's just fucking wrong it's just wrong yeah you're definitely yeah you're above high school girls at this point stop it go find college girls now

yeah you're in the nba That'll work. You're fine. That college girl goes to school with guys that want to be you and you're fucking 18. You're like, yeah, I didn't go there. I just went right to the NBA. That'll work. So much easier. The Buchanan's high school that he was at, the administrator Lamar Treadwell also witnessed Treadwell. He witnessed the incident and said that he saw Stevenson leave the gym with two individuals in pursuit. One of those, according to Treadwell, was ex-Clovis High School standout and Fresno State football recruit Chris Sims.

There he is. Who played in the All-Star game. Yep. That's the guy. Yeah, there's a guy there. That's the you ain't shit guy. It's a rival fucking guy. He's going to Fresno State to play football, and he played against him in high school,

so there's a rivalry there. And he said, yeah, fuck you. No, no, no. That's two Ms. This is one M, Chris Simms. His blonde ass chasing people. Get back here, Deshaun. Deshaun, this is bullshit, man.

I'm not going to forget this at all, brah. It's your nepotism. Wait a minute. This is not right. When I'm done surfing, I'm going to come over there and kick your fucking ass, buddy. Blonde, floppy hair. It's not fair. You're getting treated better than everybody else based on who you are.

This is bullshit. You're getting treated better than everybody else based on who you are. This is bullshit. They said Chris was put in a squad car and one other man was put in a squad car, they said. Now, Stevenson, according to Treadwell and other eyewitnesses, was not detained by the police. They said there wasn't time for them to interview him. By the time the cops got there, he was already gone. So a woman at the Clovis Police Department said that she was not allowed to comment, but she said a report

would be available. They said that the four Clovis police cars arrived at the scene shortly after Stevenson took off. They said, quote, there was a lot of confusion, but it was clear to me that he was attacked as he was milling around the court after the game. There were several

small fights going on at the same time all over the gym. Unbelievable. What the fuck is happening? Is this an old West saloon? Like what are these people fighting? Oh, why is there, why are there several small fights broken out after a basketball game? Why is he going to a place where that happens? Yeah.

Kids, I'll go fight some children. You're in the NBA. This is 2000, 2000 man you got to worry about alan iverson go worry about alan you're six you're a guard you're gonna have to worry about him you're gonna have to worry about other you know shooting guards and that's who you should be worried about right now he's doing great already yeah you better you have to guard him guess what you're on him and he's taller than you. So get to practice it, asshole. Take an SAT crash course on that shit.

So Stevenson arrived at the All-Star game apparently shortly after halftime, signed autograph, shook hands with the spectators, and took a seat in the center of the bleachers to watch the second half of the game. He said, quote, I was there to see my boy Jordan Bryce. And the fight broke out five minutes after the game he said quote i was there to see my boy jordan uh jordan bryce and uh the fight broke out five minutes after the game ended and uh prosecutors at the time hadn't decided what to do to pursue charges against him as well if they should or not on the advice of his lawyer he's not saying shit to anybody and refused to talk to the police he said to the press i really can't say nothing about that i hired a i hired a lawyer to handle all that stuff oh boy which is a smart thing to say to the press yeah and apparently they never yeah no no i don't think they they never end up um

he's charged with fighting in a public place eventually huh which is a misdemeanor but i don't know if he ended up, if they just dropped that or what. But that probably cost him a lot of money, and had he just stayed the fuck off of a high school campus that he didn't belong at anyway, he would have had that money left. The Jazz just ignore it. They just act like it didn't happen. They're like, well, he didn't have a gun or any cocaine or anything,

so let's just pretend like, yeah, boys will be boys. Sometimes guys fight on the basketball court. Stupid. It's all good. So he says he's ready for basketball by June 29, 2000. I'm done fighting children, and I'm ready to play basketball. He said this is the day of the fight. He said, I'm not a gamble, as a draft pick he means.

He said, I wasn't nervous, and I'm not now. There a draft pick he means he said i wasn't nervous and i'm not now there's some relief but it's mainly because now it's time to get on with basketball that's good that's what you want to hear um the uh he later on will talk about the um because they showed him watching the draft on television at home with his family and then he went to the basketball game afterwards and fought children he um he said quote there wasn't that much drama he said i'm really happy with the situation um he's the 17th player in history at the time to go from high school to the nba wow only the 17th now there's 17 in every draft but back then it was only he was only the 17th um it's strange that he's going

to utah it's a weird place for weird it's a weird landing spot for him right but it's in the west he's gonna play kobe a lot that yeah that's true that's true um the coach jerry sloan he said we had an opportunity to get a guy with a tremendous upside that doesn't always mean a guy is going to come in and play but you have to take a chance on a guy who possibly could be a star down the line they're looking at him as a project like they don't need anything basically when it came to the bottom of the draft it's like well we can get some stiff who's going to be a middling guy or we can get a guy who won't play for a couple years but when he plays could be a star yeah it's better to do that if you don't have a specific need right now. They had Shandon Anderson at this time, I think, and Russell.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they had that position pretty well locked up at the moment. And, yeah, where they drafted, there was nothing that they were really looking for. Like, if you really need a backup four or something, then you could have found him at the bottom or whatever. But they just were like, well, we'll fucking take a chance on a guy who might be a star here so um he they said he's going to compete with quincy lewis for the minutes that the minutes that that they have as a backup uh vacated by the retirement of jeff hornacek so wow yeah they're going to replace him with jeff

hornacek with him um he said i'm'm starting my practice right away, Stevenson said. He said, I'm going to have a chance to play with John Stockton and Carl Malone, some of the best players in the league. It's a great opportunity, but I have a lot to learn. Okay, that's what you want the kid to say. That's perfect. Sloan called him a very lively basketball player who will be faced with, he's going to have to play team ball here, obviously.

They have a very specific thing they're doing for 20 years in Utah. Sloan said there's a lot of things he doesn't have an understanding of at this point. He hasn't played in a system. He's played more with the basketball. Those are things he'll have to learn. I'm sure there'll be a lot of headaches, but that's part of it. That's when you draft a guy like that. I'm sure there'll be a lot of headaches, but that's part of it.

That's when you draft a guy like that. He is getting a guaranteed three-year deal worth only $2.225 million, which is a lot of money, but in the NBA, you'd think he'd get more than that. But bottom of the first round, and that was after they came back after the strike, and one of the things the players gave into was, fuck the rookies. They get shit deals now. They don't get big, giant deals anymore so the veterans could get better deals. So he said, when they asked him, were you concerned you would drop to the second round?

And he said, I felt there might have been a chance to be taken higher, but I wasn't really worried too much about going further down because of Utah's interest in some of the other teams. I'm just glad it happened this way. So I'm sure Utah here, 2000, 2001, Utah, they go 53 and 29. Yeah, they're usual. Yeah, they're usual. But second in the West. But they lose in the first round of the playoffs. Oh, to Houston, huh?

To Dallas at this point. Oh. So, yeah, Dallas here. This is, you know, he's got to do something here for them. But he plays in 40 games, only starts two. He's a rookie. They didn't expect him to do much of anything here. He doesn't do very much on the floor either. He had 2.2 points a game, 7.3 minutes.

Basically nothing is what he's doing. They're not even using him as a sixth man. He's like the eighth man. Oh, he's the garbage time guy. We're up by 20. We're down by 20. It's the fourth quarter. Just put him in and let him run around.

Let him run around for a while. It won't matter to anybody. Just get the feel of the floor. He's garbage time, man. That's 7.3 points a game. Garbage time. That's garbage. Taylor Swift is soaring high. Her every move captured in the news cycle and

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Got an NBA season behind him. Shaky, but, you know, like I said, that's what's expected. Sloan said in the very beginning, they're not expecting him to contribute this year or anything. They're just breaking him into the league. Well, this day on June 20th, 2001, the police are seeking him, which is not great. Oh, boy. Not great at all. They stake out the Fresno Airport in hopes of arresting him.

Stakeout. Stakeout because a criminal complaint was filed in the Fresno County Superior Court last week against him um who went from the easton's oh yeah he went there um his whereabouts are unknown but plain closed detectives were waiting for him at the fresno airport why would detectives stake out an airport for you gotta do something terrible right um well he is accused of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a 14 year old girl no 14 year old girl he's 20 obviously we knew it already yeah because he's hanging around fucking high schools god how did nobody pick up on that one reason to hang around a high school if you're that age to fucking have high school girls swarming all over you. How did they?

Oh, my God. He couldn't pick like a senior who was 18 and was going to college next year. Nope. He said, hi, freshman. Straight up freshman. Oh, my God. What are you, in the eighth grade? You're coming here next year?

Allow me to show you around. This is where I rape people. What the fuck, man? This is ridiculous. Yeah. His teammate also from the, his old high school teammate, Deshaun Anderson, another Deshaun here, is also being sought in connection with this. Oh, God. Took place allegedly at a Fresno hotel, according to the district attorney.

Allegations were fully not made public at that point the district attorney said that it's a serious matter i would say yeah dead ass uh i would say that's not great um so he uh was also by the way scheduled at this point to be in a fresno courtroom for a criminal trial stemming from the fighting charges at the game there. So it's going all sorts of fucking high school bullshit here. So, yeah, they're saying that that Stevenson said about that fight, by the way, because he's asked about that. He said it was just jealousy, I guess, talking about the fight. As soon as I walked in the door, all the attention was on me,

and some people didn't like that. They're just jealous because here comes this high school player out of Fresno going to the NBA. And the guy who he fought, Sims, called it an unfortunate incident. Why is his response more mature than Deshaun's? Because he doesn't have any money, so he has to try to be mature for now. So they said that the Fresno lawyer who's defending him against the public disturbing the peace charge there said he was unaware of the unlawful sex charge until the reporters told him about it. Oh, boy.

The cops didn't tell him about it. They're looking for Deshaun. He said the last time I talked with Deshaun was a month ago when he came to my office. He didn't mention he was in trouble. Well, he probably should have done that here. to my office he didn't mention he was in trouble well he probably should have done that here according to the prosecutor though he's accused of having sex with the fresno girl during a week to visit to fresno in the past six weeks during yeah uh during the memorial day weekend he was in fresno and attended the matt's madness basketball tournament stop stop stop? This is why we say don't go home.

Yeah. He's going home to bask in it. He's going home to bask in who he is. Rather than going, fuck, I have the hardest job to do. To play shooting guard in the NBA is really, really hard. In the West. In 2000. You have to be in-fucking-credible to be able to do that. You need to concentrate. You're playing with John Stockton and Carl fucking Malone. In 2000, you have to be in-fucking-credible to be able to do that.

You need to concentrate. You're playing with John Stockton and Carl fucking Malone. Concentrate. What are you doing? Playing against David Robinson and the fucking crazy talented Spurs. You're trying to, yeah, the Spurs are nasty. Tim Duncan at that point. Right.

Your job is so hard, and rather than concentrating on it it feels you're chasing child pussy what the fuck man it feels good to him to go back there and be and soak it in get all the accolades and tell everybody how everybody oh man it's deshaun oh wow he loves that that shows how immature he Yeah. When he goes to these games and such, though, he's with those guys, and nobody's looking at him. He needs it. The ego is everything. And if he can't get it there, he's going to have to go back to that level that he was at when he got all the stardom. And that's what he keeps going back to. It's unfucking real.

David Allred, the vice president of public relations for the jazz now they have to start getting involved they're like oh god jesus christ we we don't even comment on carl malone fucking that kid what are we doing although this might have got him more like love on the team though carl malone's like i didn't know about you yeah when you first got here man i wasn't sure i was like what are we doing but then i heard what you did the other day and i said all right he's got a little carl malone in him pretty good kid right there he's a pretty good kid right there i get where he's coming from i understand little determination you might be a hall of famer you could do it yeah you get somebody to feed you off the pick and roll

and you could really be we could get there it is fascinating that we don't that they don't do anything about that nothing no nothing at all no they try to bury shit the nba once it's over with they bury it like yeah when we did that i remember specifically when we did the vernon maxwell episode back in the day he was arrested over 30 times okay crazy his wikipedia page at the time had zero in it about an arrest it was just he's a great guy and he played basketball and now he's doing this and everything's fine it's like no what about half of his life which is spent punching people and running from cops and stealing women's purses and shit what happened to that and his dick being out all the time. All the time. All the time. So the Jazz said, we won't.

We're going to reserve commenting until we know something. Yeah. We don't know anything. Okay. So, yeah. Tony Perry, who works with a bunch of Fresno kids, who has known Stevenson since he was a young guy, said he's surprised by this. Very surprised. Huh. It'd be funny if he was like, guy, said he's surprised by this. Very surprised. Huh.

It'd be funny if he was like, I always thought he'd be fucking children. Yeah. He better be surprised. Any response other than that? We got several follow-ups. Jesus, there's a lot to talk about here. He said, Deshaun is not a wild person.

He's kind of a square person. He doesn't go out looking for trouble. I see kids in sports and they go out acting crazy. He's not like that. Well, no, he didn't go out and grab her by the hair and drag her back to the hotel room. She voluntarily did it, but she's a child. She doesn't have the capacity. She's not allowed to.

You don't seduce children. That's the thing here. The adult is supposed to say, this is gross. Yeah. Not just illegal. Gross! And gross seduce children that's the thing here adult and supposed to say this is gross yeah just illegal gross and gross yeah that's gross everyone like i said all he passed he comes in a locker room all the guys are shaking their head and just like gross and then carl malone's just smiling nodding his head you're putting his fist out yeah that's right ready for that low bone pound it yeah you didn't get her pregnant, did you? Attaboy. Attaboy. I made that mistake. That was my fuck up, so good job.

He then said that, quote, this is the same coach guy, he said that it doesn't matter either way, he said, because people will still be thinking crazy things, even if he didn't do it. Yeah. So this is not a good start for him as an adult. He pleads not guilty. Really? adult. He pleads not guilty. Really? Yes. He pleads not guilty.

He admitted. This is the problem, though. He admitted to the mother of the young lady in a tape-recorded telephone call that he had sex with her daughter and implicated a friend of his as also being involved in this as well and having some form of sexual relations here um he said two other men the girl told police that deshaun and two other adults of legal age took her and a 15 year old friend of hers to a motel room on june 6th holy shit 14 and 15 so gross that is just disgusting um i'm sorry that's bad that's that's her you're eight you've got you've got a car man and they and a contract they draw shit on their trapper keepers like that's where we're at like this is wow um in 2000 she's writing mrs jonas brother this is ridiculous mrs timberlake she's writing

this is fucking silly mrs whatever backstreet boy there are i don't know which ones they are no i don't know any of them is that one or is that a 98 degree aren't they the same thing didn't they i honestly i could if you could line them all up i i'd love to punch most of them but i don't know couldn't pick them out of that lineup he might be in o-town i don't know maybe for all i know shit it could be anything he could be in one of those k-pop groups i have no idea that's the only way i go well he looks korean so he's probably not one of the backstreet boys put him over there if I had to match up people with groups. So this young lady said that they went there,

and Stevenson and Deshaun Anderson, his buddy there, gave the two girls alcohol, then had consensual sex with them. So got them drunk. He couldn't even score with a 14 he couldn't even charm a child into this he needed to get him drunk first this is yeah adult women you play in the nba you could have just found an adult woman to do this. Happily. You couldn't even sweet talk a 14 year old into blowing you. And not even would it, if you did it with an adult,

not only would it not be gross at that point, it'd be way less gross, but also probably way fucking more fun too. Cause they know what the fuck they're doing and you should, and it's, unless you're a really disgusting person, this should creep you out the whole time. If you were this you should go what am i doing oh god this is terrible oh my god i should call the police on myself like this is disgusting so a young body is no good to look at that's it's not good oh my god there should be nothing

hot about that no not to you no i the 15 year old should be nothing hot about that. No, not to you. No. The 15-year-old, the friend of the one that Deshaun was involved with here, said she had consensual sex with Deshaun Anderson, his friend, while another man watched. The third man watched but didn't participate in the sex. Oh, you know what he did, though? Not only did they fuck children but they some guy wanted to watch other people fuck children god damn it man this is not like a this is not an nba party where they had like escorts and strippers over and they you know this isn't the minnesota

viking boat party this is disgusting and sad very very sad so uncomfortable man oh my god he pleads not guilty to this so uh september 21st 2001 yeah he's char i don't know how the fuck this is this but he's charged with the judge downgrades his charges from statutory rape what to misdemeanor sex which misdemeanor kid fucking is not a thing that should exist no there should never be a misdemeanor when your penis is around a child never if your penis went inside of a child that's not a misdemeanor every time i mean i don't care what you want to call it it's not a misdemeanor. No. Right? That's just.

And how, why would you downgrade from statutory rape? Because that seems real easy to prove. Yeah. Are you 18? No. No? All right. Well, done. You fucked her?

Well, there we go. That seems like statutory rape. Oh, you gave her booze too. Oh, that makes it another thing. What's your birthday? What's her birthday? All right. Easy. Hey, you gave her booze, too. Oh, that makes it another thing. What's your birthday? What's her birthday? All right, easy. Whoa, hey, those don't go together.

And alcohol's involved? What the fuck? Yeah, neither of you are 21, number one. And you, being the older one, plied her with it to get this done. What amount of money was involved to get that plea? That's crazy. If they wanted to get three 19-year-olds from Fresno State or some shit to come over and all drinking fuck. I could give a fuck.

Drink and fuck each other silly and watch how some guy fucking whack it while he watches in a corner. I don't fucking care. Film it. I don't give a shit. As long as everyone's into it, great. Who cares? Don't give a fuck. Everyone's everyone's into it great who cares don't give a fuck everyone's happy cool this no a 14 year old that knows all the all the words to bye bye bye i don't know you can't know that no you can't fuck her no britney spears postered people you don't

get to fuck her you don't get to fuck her while singing. Oops, I did it again. It's not right. You certainly did. Gross. I don't understand. There's a four hour hearing and he is it's dropped to from a felony to misdemeanors. I don't understand it. The Stevenson and Anderson hugged family members and friends after hearing the decision because that's, you know because from lots of lots of prison time to not lots of prison time the reduction removes the burden of a three-year state prison sentence that would have accompanied a felony conviction so um arguing before the judge uh that his lawyer

said there was no signs of force and stevenson has no prior convictions it doesn't fucking matter it doesn't matter don't you're a lawyer you. It doesn't matter. Don't you're a lawyer. You know, it doesn't matter. You know that, sir. And you don't even have to know the law. That's just disgusting.

That's just, you go gross. Why do you fucking, you, Oh, you talked to 14 year old into fucking you. Ooh, wow.

What a now? Oh, sorry. You talked to drunk 14 year old into being willing to have sex with you that's you're you're a monster yeah that's not hard to do i'm sure if you're an nba player and you're that's easy all you know blown away by your who you are and everything else you picked her up in a lexus wow yeah she went oh wow this is yours oh my god none of my other boyfriends have a lexus because i'm 14 my last boyfriend had a, wow, this is yours? Oh, my God. None of my other boyfriends have a Lexus because I'm 14.

My last boyfriend had a fucking paper route. This is crazy. Are you kidding me? None of my boyfriends' parents let them drive their Lexus. This is yours. Wow. At this point, they only face a maximum of a year in county jail. That's the maximum penalty.

Wow. Holy shit. And they're not even going to get that. That is fucking crazy um they said uh he the the lawyer his lawyer said when you have someone of mr stevenson's young age uh-huh he's an adult he's an adult and you you have a single act of intercourse the evidence before you is clearly that the 14 year old was under the age of consent, but that she did consent. I would I would say she was convinced. Well, he he went on to say she told the officer she was enjoying herself, that she was the one who initiated the contact.

It doesn't matter. So how do you not get up out of your fucking seat with your judge robe, walk out down there and hit him on top of the fucking head with your goddamn mallet? How do you not do that and go, are you fucking stupid? Did you just come into my court and go, she wanted it real bad and was trying to come up. He's fucking an adult and she's not. Kids also want to go to the zoo and Disneyland and shit. Do you take them every time? No.

Same thing. You don't fuck them either. Also, what you're saying is very reckless because dangerous people may hear what you just said and get the same shit for their disgusting depravity. If I give them booze and they're into it, then it's fine. What the fuck is that? Then I only get a year. I'm sorry. This is crazy.

Are we all losing our shit here? This is 2001? This is 2000-fucking-1. Unbelievable. You know, 1971. That would make sense. That's not what it is. This is crazy.

How did nobody... I mean, there were two buildings that fell right around this time. That makes sense. Yeah, but still, it was we should all know so we all said it's fine yeah i guess maybe that's it why we didn't hear about it as much but yeah wow uh the judge said though uh that there that is a serious crime even though he downgraded it to not very serious crime he said that uh whether when that act, it's a very serious matter, whether consensual or not. You have to take,

I don't care if she, you know, took her fucking underwear off and planted her asshole on his windshield as he was driving down the street. You turn the fucking windshield wiper on and try to knock her off of it and go away. You don't do that.

I don't care if she suction cupped herself to his window like a garfield hanger on i don't give a shit that's not okay right sat on the antenna like the ball from jack and the box telling you suction cupped her asshole to his windshield you just go no no thank you you're not for me no child. You're a baby. No. Scream child over and over again. The prosecutor didn't comment. Deshawn's friend Deshawn here, Deshawn Anderson, his lawyer said that the judge likely reduced the charges because of the faultiness of the evidence and the fact that the girls consented several times to the evening's activities. He said the nature and

quality of the evidence was such that it was worthy of being reduced to a misdemeanor. There seems to be no question that they fucked these girls. That's the end of the question. Isn't that the evidence? They admit it. They tell

everyone talks about it. Ask the guy who was whacking it while he was watching let's give him the deal let's say okay you didn't fuck any children no charges for you if you tell us what's happening how about that i just if we're parsing you know who's worse here holy shit the the least culpable person in the room is when the when the least culpable person is the guy in the corner jacking off that's a bad situation that is terrible that's that's the least couple jerking off while two guys fuck children and you go well you know what i mean if we gotta deal with the devil i guess let's deal with the nicest one we know about here.

Oh, boy. Then the 15-year-old the next day here, I guess, recants her original story. Okay. She feels guilty. She feels guilty. I don't know if she's pressured, paid off, or whatever it is. I don't know if she's pressured, paid off, or whatever it is. But she now says that she didn't have sex with Anderson, the friend, at the Howard Johnson Express Inn. Wow.

You have hundreds of thousands of dollars. You took them to a Hojo Express. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. She now says about the Anderson guy, it was just a little bit of touching on my chest and he was just rubbing on my arms. We wasn't having sex or anything like that. That's the quote from court. She pressed, she was adamant that she did not have sex with Anderson. They said, well, why did you tell the detectives that you did have sex? And she said, quote, I guess maybe I wanted

to get back at him to get him in trouble she said that she knew anderson before this day when you know all of this uh he and stevenson picked them up at a home around 10 p.m let's go pick up some children at the time when that commercial comes on and says it's 10 p.m do you know where your children are yeah hopefully not fucking nba players let's put it that way. Hojo Express. They picked up children at 10 p.m. with booze and took them to a hotel. What the fuck could any plan be? It's all obvious that's what they were going to do. There's zero intention of just hanging out with kids. Yeah.

So that's the Andersons victim here. Wow. Not Deshaun Stevenson's victim here. His 14-year- old victim didn't testify in this day but for the purposes of the hearing a police officer was allowed to relay what was told to him during the interview and he said uh she said it was voluntary the second thing she said was if she had not been so drunk she probably would not have had sex with him bingo there you go you plied a young girl with set with booze and fucked her that's crazy you loosened her up and fucked her which i don't know if

everyone's consenting adults and everybody wants this yeah whatever whatever yeah you have three drinks you have three drinks everybody's looser we're more comfortable she's a 14 year old who's probably scared to have sex with an adult man who's in the nba and um she gets loose and then that's terrible man terrible so um she said that she told um the uh cop that she was asking for freaky friends she said those are friends that will do anything sexually so she wanted to do freaky shit, I guess, originally. Wow. Other testimony offered by officers claimed that Stevenson and Anderson knew the ages of the girls. They picked them up from the 15-year-old's house, and the group went to a super Kmart and purchased a bottle of brandy.

This is the worst story of all time. It gets grosser constantly doesn't it they're doing nothing that an nba player does no he what is john stockton doing while this is happening do you think tucking children in it i don't know or fucking byron nelson or brian nelson brian nelson's having a glass of wine with an adult woman. Yeah. That's what he's doing. He's like, listen, baby. Jordan pushed off me. That's all there is to it. He obviously pushed off. Oh, Byron Russell. Yeah, Byron Russell. What did I say? Nelson. Nelson.

I meant Russell. Yeah. He's saying, fuck it. You know who I meant. Fuck it. Yeah, yeah. He shoved me. He shoved me. Like, it looked like I just fell off him, but I'm telling you, watch his hand. It's a push. It's a push. It's a push. That's what he does, man. Every time.

And then he's going to have sex with this fully grown 28-year-old woman who's on, like, some sitcom for three years, you know, and they're pretty hot. That's who he's fucking. This guy's like, we'll stop at the Super Kmart, pick up some fucking E&J, and then when we're done with that, I'll take you to the Hojo Express and we'll give you a plow. He's drinking brandy. God damn it. That's what you drink when you're in high school because your parents don't notice that it's missing because they only drink it at Christmas. It's disgusting.

It's so gross. Nobody wants brandy. You inherit brandy bottles from people. No one drinks that shit. So it's not even like cognac or something. No, it's so bad. It's bad. So they went to the Howard Johnson where Stevenson paid for a suite with his credit card but registered using Anderson's name.

Didn't register his own name. After the girls went home, the 14-year-old's mother notified police a day after her daughter told her what happened good yeah so with the aid of police the girl's mother placed a phone call to sean stevenson and he admitted having sex with the girl and that he knew her age why a plea ever he said i fucked the young girl plied her with alcohol knew she was 14 and, and they go, misdemeanor. Unbelievable. Wow. Unbelievable. That's fucking wild.

So the 2001-2002 Utah Jazz, he's still on the team. Like I said, on that team, it's fine, apparently. So they finished 44-38 that year. First round of the playoffs, they lose to Sacramento, three games to one. Not great. How about that? Yeah, this is the end of the playoffs they lose to sacramento three games okay well not great yeah this yeah this is the end of the whole thing here for them this is the end of their little run and um february 11th 2002 he's got some court action happening here he is sentenced for this he is uh he's gonna have to uh he pleads what is it uh he pleaded no contest on behalf of these charges because really, that's an appropriate plea.

Yeah. How are you going to fight these charges? No, yeah. I'm just, I'm in the corner with hands above my head as your rain blows upon me. No contest. I'm begging, please have mercy. Yeah. Pleads guilty.

His lawyer pleaded guilty on his client's behalf to also disturbing the peace. So all guilty pleas in that fight thing there. So under this, he is to serve. Oh, boy, this is a real, real stiff sentence. You, sir, may fuck off two years probation. And he'll serve no jail time, but must a hundred hours of community service and and jimmy it's not all not for not here eleven hundred dollars in fines that'll teach him not to fuck kids you know we're gonna charge you three nights in a suite at the hodo that's it that's probably

that's probably i think you get a week for 1100100 here. So, 2001-02 season, he played in 67 games. Started, actually, 23 games that year. Played 16.9 minutes a game for a whopping total of 4.9 points a game. As a shooting guard? Not very good. Yeah, not very good. 1.7 assists, two rebounds, not great. Shooting guards are dropping 45 a game now.

He's got to do something here. He does make $890,280 that year, and he needed it for lawyer fees, so good for him. 2002-2003, 47-35 here. The Jazz are losing the first round to Sacramento again. He only starts eight games this year. Plays in 61. 4.6 points a game. Okay.

So he is doing worse now. That's not great. Really generating the points. Not doing well. He does make $952,320 that year, though. For four points. For four fucking points. He is now traded here to to the orlando magic okay gordon

gordon jirisic what jirisic i don't know who the fuck that is spell the last name g-i-r-i-c-e-k gordon gordon oh i don't know. Sorry. I have no idea who that is. Either way, Deshaun actually has a decent year this year, though. Yeah, he's playing in fucking Disneyland. Well, 2003-2004 for Utah, he starts all 54 games he plays, 28 minutes a game, and it's 11.4 points a game. So much better. Yeah. He's down there in fucking Orlando where Disneyland's at.

He's fucking running around warmed up. Oh, kids are everywhere. He can't wait to get down there. That's the thing. He can't wait. He's real excited about that here. So he makes $1,616,087 that year. Holy. Somehow he got a new contract after scoring 4.5 points a game.

But okay. a new contract after scoring 4.5 points a game. Okay. 2004-2005, the Orlando Magic are 36-46 and don't go to the playoffs. Bad team throughout this era here.

He plays in 55 games, starts 27 of them. Not bad. 7.8 points a game. Again, not wonderful, but he does make 2.5 million dollars somehow for that holy shit he's really wow this guy's lucky i'm just gonna say that's incredible money his this is insane for doing what he does and you know having sex with children so 2005 and six here with Orlando.

They're 36 and 46, which I think is the same record as the year before. So they're just not very good. Just a bad team. Aggressively mediocre. He plays in 82 games, starts all 82 games. 32.3 minutes a game. So this is your chance. He's a big piece.

This is your shot, big guy. He averages 11 minutes a game. So this is your chance. He's a big piece. This is your shot, big guy. He averages 11 points a game. Not what you want from your two guard here. 11 points, 2.9 rebounds, and two assists. He's not even creating opportunities for other people. Well, they're creating plenty of opportunities for him to buy shit because he makes $2,750,000. Almost $3 million. He's made more money every year he's been in the league and rarely does better.

Unbelievable. His contract's up. That was a three-year deal. And so now he ends up going to Washington, plays for the Wizards. August 5, 2006, signs as a free agent with Washington. And he opted out of this deal, actually. Listen to this. Well, he opted out of the – he had a deal in Orlando.

He opted out of a deal that would have paid him $3 million that year, then turned down a three-year, $10 million contract from Orlando. Unbelievable. In order to sign here and make way less money why he's going to make 932 000 this year so he fucked himself directly in the asshole why would he do that because he thought he could get more money he said 10 million for three years fuck that i'm ready to come out i'm ready to blow up and so so he went to the wizards and made 900 and then they said okay and then nobody offered any more money because he hasn't shown anything so yeah that's that and there he is he said quote i had way more money on the table but that's part of life sometimes you've got to go two steps backward to take five steps forward

i look at this as a stepping stone is that right wow i look at this as a stepping stone. Is that right? Wow, I look at this as losing a shitload of money. I look at that as losing $9 million. $9 million that you could have really used later on when things fall apart. They lose. They go to the playoffs this year. They're 41 and 41, Washington. They go to the playoffs

and they're swept by Cleveland that year. LeBron. LeBron. What are you going to do? Cleveland. He starts all 82 games he plays for Washington. So 29.5 minutes a game. He averages 11.2 points a game. That's a ceiling. I feel like he's found his plateau. Yep.

That's a ceiling right there. 2.6 rebounds, 2.7 assists. So nothing that great. He is very one-dimensional. Yep. He is real flat. Oh, boy. 2007 game is very one-dimensional. Yep, he's real flat. Oh, boy. 2007, 2008, 43-39 for the Wizards. They lose to the Cavs in the first round, of course.

Yeah, not doing that great. He gets, by the way, at this point, a tattoo of his own jersey on him. Oh, good call. Good call. He gets Stevenson on his back where the nameplate of his jersey jersey on him. Oh, good call. Good call. He gets Stevenson on his back where the nameplate of his jersey would go. Not like a little jersey on your shoulder. No, no, no, no, no.

The whole fucking back. He got Stevenson across his back like the jersey number. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's a bad tattoo. That is. In those letters with like stitching and everything.

Oh, yeah. The whole deal. He's also adding the number two on his back. So because he had that at first. So then he said, I'll just add my number. That way it looks like a jersey. Idiot. Like I'm wearing a jersey.

That is terrible. Wow. What a bad tattoo. I don't even know what to fucking say about that. That is fucking hilarious. Gilbert Arenas' quote about it's pretty funny, too. He said, quote. Let's go to the man of the hour.

He said, he has that big Stevenson on his back. I've seen a lot of players that are getting their names on their backs. I guess it's a way of letting people know what their names are when they're on the beach. I don't know. Deshaun is adding the number two on his back so it looks like a jersey. I guess when he's swimming or something, having fun in the pool, everyone will know who that is. It's not for me, though. I'll stick with the tiger.

Which is fucking a hilarious way to put it. That's just great. I mean, you know. I mean, I love getting tattoos that are just for when I'm in the pool. You know, just so people know who I am. They can see me. Oh, it's Deshaun Stevenson, number two. Okay.

Gilbert's terrific. That's hilarious. This year, 82 games in the league. Starts all 82. 31.3 minutes a game is average. 11.2 points a game. Exactly the same as last year. Exactly the same.

2.9 rebounds, 3.1 assists. Oh, getting some more things for everybody. It is not great. He makes $1,033,000. He left so much money on the table. So much. Fucking moron. And now he's not going to get a big contract because he's averaging 11 points a game.

He's a bench guy. It's never going to happen again. Yeah. 2008, 2009 Wizards are 19 and 63. Ouch. Yikes. They really fucking sucks. Didn't even win 20 games?

It really sucks. Yeah. Didn't even win 20 games? It really sucks. Yeah, didn't even win 20. Wow. He then, I don't know what he's doing here, but he spent $1,000 on wristbands. Good call. They made a big deal out of. They came in a rainbow of colors, all different colors, and said like 10 different sayings,

all of which he says he thought up himself. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What do they say? Have a nice day? Yeah. like 10 different sayings all of which he say he he says he thought up himself oh yeah yeah what do they say uh have a nice day um yeah um brendan haywood said quote what the hell does that mean i won't know what to think until i know what it means right now i'm just confused no idea what this motherfucker's doing here um deshaun said uh quote i've got crazy thinking when they asked him why are you putting sayings on his wristbands that you've made up and he said i've got crazy thinking and that's all he

said so look out for that look out for crazy deshaun stevenson wristband sayings he only plays in 32 games this year only starts 25 and averages 6.6 points a game not very good makes 3 million 616 thousand 72 dollars though that year was a good contract that year god damn not bad um so he they're talking about him um he's gonna end up in dallas after this here so um that was 2008 9 2009 2010 he only plays 40 games in was, averages 2.2 points a game. Jesus. Not great. Then he's talking about tattoos here in 2009 because he's got a shitload of tattoos now.

On his left cheekbone, he has the Pittsburgh Pirates P. He got a face tattoo? He got a face tattoo because he said, that's my favorite team. Barry Bonds when he first started. You've never been to Pittsburgh, dude. No, he's from California. And it's backwards, the P, so it looks like a nine. He got a backwards P. Did he do it himself in the mirror he could see it i don't

know why is it little like a teardrop or is it a big one on his whole it's not a giant one but it's a decent size yeah he said this about it while they were standing around people said why did you get a backwards p on your face he said no if you're standing where dom's standing some guy and looking at me it looks like a pee and they asked dominic mcguire who was this is the guy dom who was standing directly in front of him about 10 yards away well does it look like a pee and he said no looks like a nine and then deshaun said well when i look in the mirror it look like a P and he said no it looks like a 9 and then Deshawn said well when I look in the mirror it looks like a P yeah because it's backward you dipshit

450 yeah that's a 450 SAT decision all of these are I feel like when he had when he got the 1150 they all sat around and went we talked to him he did not get an 1150 on his SATs, right? He draws P's backwards, you guys.

He's not right. Wow. A new tat is a crack on the left side of his forehead. He might be the first guy that was making money that got face tattoos. Facial tattoo. Yeah, well, Tyson was the first with his big face tattoo. He was the first like, holy shit, that's a famous guy with a face tattoo. That's a fucking decision.

They said, well, why'd you get a big crack on the left side of your forehead? Yeah. And he said, because I don't crack. Oh, my God. So I put a big crack on there to show that I don't crack. He said, I feel like people always try to break me, but I don't crack. So I put a big crack on there to show that I don't crack. He said, I feel like people always try to break me, but I don't crack. So I put that there. Okay.

I don't understand that. Wow. He explains also that he likes to play with swag. He keeps talking about. So, like, what do you mean exactly when you're saying you're playing with swag? And he says, quote, a lot of swag. Quote, a lot of swag. Just go out there and play with heart.

We've got a good team, a good focused team, and a lot of people have good characters on our team. Have good characters on our team. Got it. Okay. So just go out there and work hard. Yeah. This game's full of swag. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. I get swagger when I play. Okay. So just go out there and work hard. Yeah. This game's full of swag. That's what it is.

Yeah, that's what it is. I get swagger when I play. Yeah. He also defines, he says off the court, you know, he wears sunglasses inside and, you know, that kind of shit. You know, he's cool. So that's his explanation. 2009-10 Mavericks. They go 55-27, and they lose in the first round of the playoffs, to san antonio yeah who was killing it at

that point he was traded by the wizards with karan butler and brendan haywood uh so two crime and sports guys here for drew gooden josh howard quentin ross and james singleton so uh there you go that year um he is in dallas he plays in 24 games and only averages two points a game. So not great. Yeah. Not wonderful. He does make $3,886,928 for that though. Oh, shit.

How are they paying him this money? I feel like anybody could do what he's doing in the NBA. Any decent NBA player, any half any half decent bench player could do this i don't get it was this a write-off for cuban at the time was this just like he needs to dip dump money was there a shortage of tall people during this was there like a tall holocaust at some point and just wiped a lot of the population out because this seems crazy he's just dumping cash he is man Dumping cash. He is, man. It's fucking ridiculous. So 2010-11 Mavericks. This year they go 57-25. First round of the playoffs, they beat Portland 4-2.

They sweep the Lakers 4-0 after that. Then it's the Thunder. At this time it was like Westbrook and Durant. Westbrook at that point. Yeah, Thunder. They beat them 4-1 and go all the way to the finals. Yeah, and this is Dirk's shit. Against the Heat.

Oh, the Heat, that's right. This is when the Heat were their super team after they went there and Dwayne Wade and him and Bosh and all that. And they beat the Heat 4-2. This is Dirk's shot. This is it. He has a fucking ring. The man has a ring and a tattoo on his face of a backwards P and the scent of a 14-year-old on his genitalia.

You have to be fucking kidding me. He's got a fucking ring. The man has an NBA championship. Well, he did earn it this year, Jimmy. He played in 72 games, started 54, and averaged 5.3 points a game. So if anybody should have a ring, it's this guy. You have to be kidding me. I swear to God.

This is bonkers that this man has anything. The luckiest man on the planet. The luckiest man alive. He didn't go to prison for fucking 10 years for fucking a child. live he didn't go to prison for fucking 10 years for fucking a child he walks down the street and as he walks like he steps one step and a safe falls from 12 floors right behind him but the safe falls faster than the bag of money that floats in his hand in front of him he's like what happened that's what happens a safe right behind a bag of money right in his hands it's out of the same magoos his way through life with the happiest of of endings blind eyes closed crashing into shit almost constantly he is uh he does make four million one hundred fifty one thousand seven

hundred eighty six dollars for this are you fucking kidding me? That is not fair. This life is not fair. He had 4.5, oh my God, 5.3 points and 4.1 million for 5.3 points. Almost a dollar a million. That's crazy. He made more than that the year before. The year before, he averaged 2.1 points a game, and he made 3.86 million. Fucking ridiculous. Fuck this man.

Fuck him. I hate you, sir. I don't like Deshaun Stevenson. You suck. Some of these guys, I kind of like this guy. Fuck you. I hate him. I don't like you.

You've had it way too easy. You lucky asshole. So two days after they win the NBA championship, he's arrested. Oh, good. Stop celebrating, you fucking idiot. Arrested for public intoxication on a Tuesday night in Texas. Just loving it. How publicly drunk do you have to be to get arrested in the same fucking town where you just won a championship two days ago?

And they've never had one before. You've got a jersey tattooed on you. They know you played. I know who I am. That's what an asshole you have to be. Irving police were called to the Grand Venetian apartment complex at 1030 at night after receiving a call to report an intoxicated person walking in the area. Why are you walking in the area?

Just out wandering. Out just going for a jaunt here um stevenson doesn't live in this apartment complex by the way it'd be one thing if he got drunk and went for a walk where he lives he doesn't even fucking live here appeared intoxicated and when they asked him why you here he said where's here i don't know where i'm at he didn't know where the fuck he was oh my god i hate him so much wandering drunkenly through a strange apartment complex wow dude hang out with your teammates what the fuck are you doing hang out with dirk nowitzki or something what's wrong with you hang out with

jason terry what is your problem whatever mental health issue his dad had it's certainly he has some too he definitely got he got some asshole from somewhere i don't know that so um he said later on when asked by a dallas tv station kdfw what the fuck you were doing there he said after he had some time to come up with an excuse that he was in the parking lot looking for his phone after doing some celebrating at a friend's apartment. He got that from, I don't know where the fuck I was. Where am I? He said, where am I? I went to an apartment complex where my friends were at to have a good time, celebrate there.

And I went over there. We had a couple of drinks. I left. I couldn't find my phone. Was looking for my phone. I was the only person out there. Couple of cops came up to me, asked me if I was i said no i had a couple drinks i guess he talked to somebody else and then he just put me in handcuffs for no reason i didn't want to say anything to incriminate myself so i

put myself in handcuffs very noble of you sir very noble very noble that's a 450 answer too that's yeah it's a very 450 so i put myself in the handcuffs based this was based on the results of a field sobriety test as apparently according to the cops and officers observations um the irving public information officer said they felt he was a danger to himself and others basically he was intoxicated to a point where police didn't feel comfortable letting him walk away how drunk is that in texas that's what i mean they usually they'll be like well take your gun and keep walking you know take this with you take your shotgun slang it over your shoulder and you get on home now this is not he's got to be really drunk and they said they didn't have any other options at that point. He was released on a $475 bond at 530 in the morning.

He said that the characterization of his condition was not accurate, that the police said. He said, I always knew where I was at. If it was that bad, if I was that wasted, I wouldn't have been out of jail in three hours on a $400 fine. Yes, you would have, unless you hurt somebody. Public intoxication is public intoxication. Three hours of not drinking, you'll sober up. Yeah. He said, I just think people, they take things out of proportion.

And when you're a champion, everything's under a microscope. Oh, I hate that he gets to say that. What was it about the 14-year-old girl then? He wasn't a champion then. What was that shit? So they said the Mavericks said they were not aware of the incident and declined comment. We're too busy winning. Yeah. He said, I slept in a one-room cell for almost five hours until my wife came and picked me up.

And to me, it hurts because that's not a way a champion should celebrate on his way home in Dallas. Sleeping in a cell over a $400 fine. Yeah. Internally, it hurts so bad. It hurts so bad. You get five points, motherfucker. A champion. You had nothing to do with that, sir.

Nothing. You were on a, do you say a 19 and 63 guy? Because you were, whatever, because you were also on that team. Where's that? He said, as he was doing this interview, a passerby saw him being interviewed and said, quote, hey, keep on partying. That's Dallas. And Sean said, thank you, thank you. Deshaun said, thank you, thank you. Deshaun said, thank you, thank you.

Yep. He then said, quote, it's sad for me, man, because I worked so hard to get this stereotype off of me. You've got guys out there that drink and drive and molest kids and do things like that. And he's worrying about a guy walking around trying to find his phone, which I still haven't found my phone. He said that. No. He said that no he said that no he didn't you've got guys out there that drink and drive and molest kids and things like that okay you're drinking and walking and fucking kids did you have the balls to say that did he

james did he just say what he did that night he just said what happened did he drink and drive with the brandy i don't know what and then molest those girls i am disturbed is all i have to say how dare you sir he's got a wife you know what her name is no you know what it is what is it brandy i swear to god jimmy his wife's fucking name is Brandy. He needs a pop star in his life. It's fucking Brandy. He loves Brandy. How do you meet a girl named Brandy knowing what you fed children? You know he got a chuckle out of that. You know he did.

He had to, yeah. Oh, by the way, he's going to have three kids with Brandy here. Is that right? Oh, yeah. He's going to have Londonon i think is a daughter uh sky who's a son and of course jimmy no deshawn jr you bet your ass he's deshawn jr what are you kidding me you think this guy's not gonna be a fucking have a junior in his midst come on he fucks everything up unbelievable man the junior this son of a bitch 450 yeah yeah four fucking champions not the way

a champion should be treated you got a 450 motherfucker 450 unbelievable um not the way a champion should be treated you got guys out there molesting kids yeah you fucking idiot you Yeah, you. Fucking idiot. You caught me before I could. Oh, my God. Stevenson, they said he played a key role in the series, though. He averaged in this final seven points in 17.2 minutes while making 13 of 23 three-pointers, which is great. And they said he played excellent defense on Dwayne Wade. Okay. So he drew attention for making critical comments about LeBron, though.

That's a problem. You want to give them poster, you know, bulletin board material. Give them reasons to beat the shit out of you. Yeah. He called the Heat classless. This is after they won the championship. He goes, yeah, it was nice. They're classless, though. Which, after you beat them, say nice things about them.

You beat them. Who gives a shit? Didn't you beat no contest of fucking children? I think he did, yeah. He also said LeBron James had checked out in game four. Didn't care. Okay. So, Deshaun is a bit of an embarrassment, I would say, at this point.

If his grandmother was alive, she'd be very upset. Oh, she'd be so mad. She's rolling in her grave at this point. I mean, it's very sad. The 14-year-old, she's got to deal with this forever. You know what I mean? All this. What about Brandy?

What about Deshaun Jr.? I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Deshaun Stevenson, health equity leader and pharmacist and public speaker who went to Duke University. Lives in Atlanta. Deshaun, University. Wow. He lives in Atlanta. Worked his ass off. He worked hard.

He looks very studious, this man. He really does. Glasses, the whole deal. Deshaun Stevenson, teacher at Assumption Parish Schools in the greater New Orleans area. Deshaun Stevenson, senior business analyst. You want this guy analyzing your senior business? He's got a 450. Wow. At CBRE in Philadelphia, he went to Drexel University's LeBeau College of Business, this man.

And finally, my favorite, Corey Deshaun Stevenson. Yeah. It's got a Corey, but that makes it funnier. He was arrested for felony and misdemeanor charges after assaulting his pregnant fiancée and fighting with Hot Springs, Arkansas police. I think it's Arkansas. Corey Deshaun Stevenson taken into custody, charged with third-degree domestic battery and also resisting arrest. He also had a failure to appear warrant as well.

Yeah, they apparently, police responded to the residents regarding a disturbance upon arrival, made contact with a woman who stated that Stevenson, her live-in fiancé and father of her unborn child, was being disorderly and throwing things around the residence. She also said that she tried to calm Stevenson, and then he shoved her, causing her to sustain two lacerations on her right hand, and she's seven months pregnant. Still a better Deshaun Stevenson.

Better. A computer check revealed Stevenson had a warrant from the Arkadelphia Police Department. And when the officers made contact with him in the living room and attempted to confirm his identity, he kept saying, wrong guy, wrong guy, wrong guy. You let the NBA player. He's a champion. He's a champ, man. He then attempted to leave the room as officers told him to sit down he attempted to push through the officers and enter an adjacent room and pulled away when they attempted to handcuff him then he began to shove the officers and fell to the ground

as he continued to fight off arrest here he was repeatedly yeah repeatedly told to put his hands behind his back but continued to pull away after about two minutes of struggling he was finally taken into custody and he allegedly continued to pull away his officers tried to get him in the back of the squad car and continued to resist once he was at the jail requiring jailers to assist in getting him inside he wants nothing to do with authority nothing uh back to our deshaun yeah june 20th 2011 he speaks out a little bit here. Okay. Yeah. He says he got an Abe Lincoln tattoo because Gilbert Arenas stole his Martin Luther King tattoo.

He stole it from him? Stole it. Right off of him and plastered on himself. Yeah. This is, he joined 105.3 The Fan in Dallas with Josh Elf and Arnie. Jesus Christ. That's a nice morning show. Fucking radio.

Just burn all these radio stations down. It's fucking, we don't need it anymore. We just don't. Right? Burn them down. We need like Spanish music for, we need Ranchero music for construction sites. Outside of that, we don't fucking,

we don't need Josh, Elf, and Arnie to discuss shit over the air. they can put their thoughts in a podcast and if anybody cares to listen they'll download it this is just elf's the asshole isn't he he's the one that causes problems i'm the elf he we're this is you're stuck in traffic and you have a captive audience this is ridiculous sorry they might have a great show i have no idea it might be terrific probably not yeah um but what if unless they got him to admit that he molested children then it's a shit show that's it yeah well they said what's the best thing about being deshaun stevenson yeah i'm the luckiest motherfucker on the face of the earth what's bad about it lou garrett can suck my dick that's what he

said y'all ever got away with child molestation shit i did he said i'd say being in dallas and being with a team that has great fans some teams don't have fans like we have they stuck with us and it's a great thing going out there playing knowing you've got 20 000 behind your back what's the worst part of being Deshaun Stevenson? Quote, the toughest part is I get stereotyped by all my tattoos and things like that. You know, fucking kids and stuff. I don't care about your tattoos. They're dumb as shit.

I think you're an idiot, but I don't think you're a bad person. The 450 implying a 14-year-old with brandy. That's what gets you stereotyped you piece of shit yeah all you need is an internet connection to know about that he said if you know me i'm a great guy um do you want to clear up what happened with the quick arrest following the championship he said quote people don't understand i was going to a party with all my friends in an apartment i left i was walking down the street and and I guess because I have tattoos, a cop told me to come here and ask me what I was doing.

People called to complain about you, actually, is what happened. He said, I told him what I was doing, and he told me to go by the cop car. I'm thinking that he's going to ask me a couple questions, and I'm going to go home. He comes, puts me in handcuffs, and I go to jail for four hours.

I asked him what I was going to jail for, and he said, public intoxication. They said, did they give you a breathalyzer or anything? And he said, the thing is, I asked for it. I asked for the breathalyzer, and he wouldn't give it to me. They said, what was he thinking as he's sleeping? Oh, they asked, what were you thinking as you were sleeping on the jail floor?

He said, I really didn't think about that because I knew I didn't do anything wrong. Sometimes when you get put in bad situations, you think, why did I do that? Why was I driving drunk? Why did I have this? Why did I fuck that 14-year- didn't do anything wrong. Sometimes when you get put in bad situations, you think, why did I do that? Why was I driving drunk? Why did I have this? Why did I fuck that 14-year-old? Things like that.

He didn't say that. He said, why was I driving drunk? Why did I have this? Why did I have that? This is like I'm walking down the street. Sometimes people get stereo. Sometimes people stereotype you. It's been like that all my life.

I think it makes you stronger and understand where you come from so um they they said where did the how does my dirk taste t-shirt come from yeah he said after we won the championship we was going to the locker room and i saw a guy with a shirt we had the championship shirts and he wanted it i said i'll switch you out if you give me that one so we switched shirts i didn't tell nobody i had it the next day we woke up and i wore it on the plane into the parade yeah so just some from some idiot on the side okay somebody made the shirt and he got it from him it's he didn't make it up he just wore somebody else's shirt wore a shirt that he yeah he wore it in the parade so it made big news they said what's up with the five dollar

bill tattoo on your neck? Oh, God. And he said, let's give him an in their own words about this. Let's let him explain his fucking 450 ass over here. He says, in their own words, quote, I was going to get Martin Luther King, and I told Gilbert Arenas, you should never tell nobody your idea. That summer, he came back and got it. So I didn't know who to get i got abraham lincoln because he freed the slaves i just had abraham lincoln and from a distance

everybody kept saying who is that so i put the five dollar bill so everybody would stop asking me end of quote he put the five dollar bill around lincoln so people would go oh it's a five dollar that's lincoln so now it's a five dollar now it's a five dollar bill exactly 450 and a five dollar bill is not impressive 450 14 and a fifth of brandy these are the numbers that we should talk about here those are all the numbers. Still playing basketball. 2011-12, he signs as a free agent with the Nets. They go 22 and 44. They suck. He sucks too. 51 games. He starts 30 of them.

Averages 2.9 points a game. What'd he make? $2,500,000. God damn it! Asshole. It's not fair! Nope. He's then traded by the Nets with Jordan Farmer, Anthony Morrow, Johan Petro, and Jordan Williams. Just a sack of shit.

Here's a sack of shit. Would you like this? Yeah. It's worth a lot of money, though. And a first-round draft pick. Wow. To the Atlanta Hawks for a second-round draft pick and Joe Johnson. Oh, that's how Joe got there.

Yeah. So this Atlanta, they go 44 and 38. They lose to the Pacers in the first round of the playoffs, and he plays in 56 games, starts 31, averages 5.1 points a game. Of course he does. That's the end of his career, by the way. Wow. 824 games.

That's the end of his career, by the way. 824 games. He averages 7.2 points, 2.2 rebounds, 1.6 assists. For like $12 million. For $27,897,988. The man made almost $30 million. He made $28 million. And a ring. 7.228 million. And a ring.

7.2 points a game and a ring. Holy shit. What a fucking dildo. Wow. That's amazing. So if you feel that about your life, feel a little worse. Feel worse about it. You don't have luck like this guy.

So after three years of not playing, he joins the big three after that. Oh, he's doing that now? Three on three. Well, he was in 2017. He decided to enter it. He was the 11th overall pick in the draft here that featured Corey Maggette. He's on Coutinho, Mobley, Jerome Williams, and Moochie Norris. They're all on his team. Clyde Drexler's the head coach.

Wow. So he had the most total three-pointers in the league that year and then became co-captain of the Ball Hog team, and he then led the league and made three-pointers again. Wow. So for a third time, he then finished again, leading the league in three-pointers and was second in assists in 2019. Oh, look at that.

Yeah, because he's – think about it. He's only like 37. A lot of these guys are 44. It's different you know it's not bad may 19th 2020 um let's see here he said that um he oh my god he purchased an atm that he placed in his kitchen uh-huh like an old one when he was playing okay during his playing days so when he needed cash he didn't have to worry about stopping. Yeah, he had an operational ATM like he was a bodega in his kitchen. So rather than go to the bank and just get cash, he did it this way. What the fuck?

Wow. According to the article here, the ATM held $20,000 and it had a $4.50 fee. So he kept him in check he claimed that his friends primarily used it before they'd go out to the club he explained that it was cool to have they go why'd you have it he goes it's cool to have yeah he said that he and his friends hate leaving the house during uh during card games when he was playing they're playing cards also if they're gambling. So this was, you know, they could just go to the ATM in his house and pay him four 50.

So it's his rake. Um, so buying an ATM proved that he loved to flaunt his money as well. They were talking about, he used to throw extravagant parties. He, uh, one party he threw in 2010 for his teammates had a big personal chef and all

this shit, a tattoo artist at the party, ready to do that. So obviously he's broke after a while. In 2016, he was in default on his Black American Express card. Oh, my God. He went through $30 million? Like that. Oh, my God. He was quite proud of the Black card, and he used to flaunt it on social

media all the time um but he didn't pay it off so that's the thing you gotta pay it you gotta pay it american express was forced to sue him for the money he owed on the card and he continued his bullshit there he ignored the allegations in the lawsuits until a judge granted amex a 384 000 judgment he oh that's what that's the black card it has no limit has no limit yeah he ignored that and then american express went back to court in 2016 to try to garnish any wages he may get after that like his pension or anything like that so uh they said that after that, 2020, he was at his home in Orlando, and they were asking him about, you know, how's retirement treating you. He said he opened a basketball-themed barber shop named Playoffs Barber Shop,

and he had dreams to franchise the shop eventually. But now he's enjoying the simpler life he leads now. He's happy with his wife and kids in Orlando. He wakes up early to take his kids to school before he works out and heads to the barbershop. He said he likes, you know, building relationships with his customers, and this is just what he needed. Is he cutting hair? I think he's cutting hair.

Or he at least owns it. June 2nd, 2022, it's going so well that he has to auction his championship ring here. Good. You don't deserve it. Reached a bid in excess of $30,000 here. The 10-carat gold ring includes more than 130 brilliant cut diamonds and 31 diamonds that surround the Mavericks logo in the center of the ring to commemorate the team's 31st season right on one side of the ring features the team's

motto the time is now accompanied by the trophy and on the other side is Deshaun's name and fucking jersey number it's on the ring it's on his back it's on his jersey it's everywhere can't get enough of Deshaun no you can find his jerseys out there there's a couple of them floating around why don't you go ahead and grab one his basketball cards are everywhere they're out there too holy shit he has a nine on his fuck it buy his ring who cares i want to find who has it yeah so his luck ran out eventually anyway that's good to know so uh everybody that is deshaun stevenson And his father I want more on. There's not any more on that because he wasn't a famous guy. But fuck, what a lunatic his father is.

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