Crime in Sports - #368 - Next Time I DIe... - Johnny Tapia: Part 2

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

This week, we continue this story of insanity with more cocaine, more arrests, and a few surprise twists that no one could see coming. He continued to fight, long after it was probably health...y to do so. He also had suicide attempts, other brushes with death, rehabs, relapses, and plenty of drama. Including his wife marrying his brother, and Johnny finally finding his long thought dead father... Or, did he???Keep fighting, long after it's healthy to do so, ignore everything you've learned in rehab, and be completely fooled by a fabricated DNA test with Johnny Tapia - Part 2!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Yay indeed. My name is James Petrogallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you so much for joining us on part two of a very crazy episode. Johnny Tapia. I'm going to wrap this up. My God, this guy is just, wow.
Starting point is 00:01:43 He is a lot. And some of these stories, because you get a sports story a lot of times, it's the guy comes up. He's coming up and there's some sports stuff and you hear about his childhood a little bit. And then crime starts midway through his career and then it goes on. And if he did a part one and part two, it would be like sports and then crime. Whereas this guy, it's like there's murders before he's even born in the part one. It's crazy. Confirmed brain damage before he even starts boxing.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Murders, brain damage, pregnant women flying through the air like lawn jarts. It's fucking bonkers, this episode. And it only gets crazier in part two. Do you think he cleans it all up and everything's fine now? You've heard part one. He said, cocaine is my mistress. here in part two do you think he cleans it all up and everything's fine now is that what you've heard part one he said cocaine is my mistress what do you think is gonna happen in part two is he retired and happy today oh my god we will get to all of this very quickly because it's so
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Starting point is 00:05:09 thank you for wanting it we appreciate it it's a lot of fun so that said let's get into this let's start johnny tappia part two uh when we left johnny tappia off last time he was he was in a shit of a mess really oh boy i believe he was a pistol lipping his girlfriend i believe when we left off last and just having having a hard time of it we'll say and now it gets better his boxing oh it's every this episode is nothing but sunshine and flowers he's gonna come around he's gonna help kids now everything's gonna be fun oh no he's not i'm sorry he's gonna do worse things and continue to do copious amounts of cocaine let's talk about completely ruin his judgment and uh so yeah let's
Starting point is 00:05:51 start off we left off there and now we're gonna start off with this with this editorial here this newspaper that has a has a problem the albuquerque journal's pissed off adam on june 12th 1995 their headline is just grow up, Johnny. His lawyer. Thank you. Thanks. Boy, am I on a straight and narrow now. That's all I needed.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Let me wipe the Coke fucking crystals from my nose, and I'm going to straighten right up. Unreal. His lawyer said, the public is generally upset with what has happened, and rightfully so. Okay. By the way, this still has a lawyer who represents both of them at the same time okay tapia had to hire a second attorney though jacqueline robbins to represent him in the felony aggravated assault case coming up here not great they said theresa tapia was the victim she shared she was caught to call 9-1-1 they said that in reality later on it comes
Starting point is 00:06:45 out that he uh he came home and accused her of having an affair and hit her she said several times then pointed a loaded 38 at my face and he uh they said his eyes were dilated she thought he was on cocaine and he's had a lot of fucking problems. And so, yeah, obviously everybody's a little fed up with Johnny at this point. Later on they said, though, quote, Johnny is a warm, personable, caring person. He wears his emotions on his sleeve out there for the world to see. When you look closely enough, you see a good, though amateur in so many ways, man. That's what they said here.
Starting point is 00:07:23 This is crazy. When Tapia married Teresa, his potential to overcome his past demons and look to the future appeared to increase tenfold. Not only is Teresa attractive, but also intelligent, caring, and seemingly level-headed.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Well, that's not going to fix you, though. Other people aren't going to fix you. Just them being in your presence isn't going to make you not fucking crazy or brain damaged. So, come on right you get it yeah those qualities also don't fend off punches no not at all or guns or bullets so theresa said we're just trying to get him the professional help he needs that's all we're doing
Starting point is 00:07:59 here and the lawyer added quote johnny catches on to things very quickly. If he likes and respects you, he soaks it up like a sponge. The problem is to put it into reality. Yeah, he can like the ideas of not doing drugs and beating his wife, but then he does it. So, wow. Then the lawyer said, quote, he needed to refocus on the fight. He didn't do it to avoid prosecution. He can be back in Albuquerque at a moment's notice. He's still worried about his fight. Yeah, it's this is why I guess they need money.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But the district attorney said it's an incredibly fearful time for the victim. We don't want the victim to be subject to coercion. This way, the victim can say, what do you want from me? It's that son of a bitch D.A. who's doing it. So they're trying to keep them apart, I guess. And it's it's fucking wild so they're they're talking about maybe a year in jail because of the fact that he had a weapon during this and he was pointing a fucking you know other things but they also said there's probation community service and
Starting point is 00:08:55 counseling and you know he might be okay he's gonna fight arthur flash johnson here who is uh 11 and 2 coming in this is a majority decision so it's not even a unanimous decision he couldn't have been training very well for this uh but he wins the fight anyway so he's 30 oh and 2 pleads innocent to beating his wife and uh that's how it works here he said he's i'm in it i didn't do shit you can fucking say whatever you want to me so i guess at around here uh he's trying to dismiss his former manager. That's Paul Chavez, who he says is his father, and he called him a son. Yeah, I guess his longtime mentor, he wants to relocate to Big Bear,
Starting point is 00:09:34 where he wants to train with Oscar De La Hoya's camp here. He's got 30 wins. He's thinking he's hot shit now. And the promoter said, as of now, Johnny isn't on the card because there's a de la jolla card coming up and they said he wants to pay paul his old manager a reasonable percentage he wouldn't have to train johnny he wouldn't have to manage johnny he'd just have to sit back and collect a check so that's what's going on here so he splits with his trainer and his attorney now
Starting point is 00:10:00 he's done with both of them okay fucking done. Yeah, just done. And he said, quote, Paul was telling me everybody was going to leave me, Tapia said. He said, that's why I left. I don't want to fight with Paul, but I want to clear the air and give my side of it. Gotta go. So now he's splitting with everything and his problems with his wife and
Starting point is 00:10:19 he's having a bad time. September 9th, 1995 he's going to fight Bam Bam again. Really? He fights Bam Bam here, and this is a, now Teresa, this is her first involvement. Now she's his manager. The wife.
Starting point is 00:10:35 The wife is his manager now, which is fine. She's not the trainer, so that's good. I don't know what kind of boxing experience she has other than getting punched by Johnny Tapia. Getting her involved in his business when he's pulling guns on her is not good. No. This is, I guess, to keep an eye on him, to be more enmeshed with him or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:51 So he beats this unanimous decision. He beats Jesse Miranda here. He's 31-0. Next up, Paul Rios, who's 27-10 coming in. This is another unanimous decision. He wins all 10 rounds, by the way, on every single scorecard. He beat the shit out of this guy. Next up, December 1st, 95, Willie Salazar, 42-22 coming in.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And Salazar fails to come out for the 10th round. Tapia has a deliberate headbutt that he's deducted points for there, too. Next up, Giovanni Andrade, alias Sugar Giovanni doesn't go, first of all. No, it doesn't. Sugar Ray's got a good flow. Sugar Giovanni doesn't really work as well. He's 17. A four-syllable name, man.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yeah, Giovanni. That's enough. There's nothing sugar about that. That's too much. Yeah, you could be Sugar anything. It's Sugar Gio. Yeah, I was going to say Sugar Gio would kind of work. Sugar G is okay, but not sugar Giovanni.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So he's 17-2 coming in. This guy will go 71-13 in his career, a long career. But he gets knocked out by Johnny Tapia here in the second round. So he's got a belt. He's doing fine. He's 34-0. Next up, again, fighting every month, Ramon Gonzalez here. He's 11-4, and this is his last fight because Johnny retires him with a TKO in the second round.
Starting point is 00:12:10 35-0. Next up, Ivan El Terrible Alvarez. Is that right? El Terrible. He's 12-2. This is in Caesars Palace in Vegas. Eighth round knockout for Johnny. 36-0-2.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Continues to run. Next up, he beats a guy named Hugo Rafael Soto, who actually is a good fighter. 55-10 career fighter. Yeah, the fucking Hugo threw me off. Hugo. Yeah, it's a good fight there. This is for the WBO World Super Flyweight title. Unanimous decision for Tappy, and he is dominating, too.
Starting point is 00:12:46 The worst he did on a card was 118-110. Wow. So, yeah, that's the worst he did. So not bad. Next up, he fights Sammy Stewart, who's 14-5, and Johnny knocks him out in the seventh round, 38-0-2. Next up, Adonis Cruz in 96, 25-2-1. It's a 12th round all the way unanimous decision.
Starting point is 00:13:08 39-0-2. Wow. So he keeps doing this. He's pumping shit out. Pumping them out. Pumping them out. Kicking everybody's ass. March 8th, 97, Jorge Barrera, 18-7.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Third round knockout for Johnny. 40-0-2. His 40th fight. July 12th, 1997 here. The California prosecutors have decided not to charge him on a weapons possession charge. Is that right? Yep. And he says, obviously we're
Starting point is 00:13:35 ecstatic, his attorney says. We felt this was the correct outcome all along. Now that this is cleared up, we're all done with it. He's fine. This is after he was found after they found two guns in his apartment, owned by him and his wife and his brother-in-law. The guns were registered to Teresa, and he said he wasn't even aware they were on the property. Didn't know. Not even my gun.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Not even my gun. Not my gun. Not my bullshit. So here he is, July 18th, unanimous 12th round decision. He beating Danny Romero Jr., his AKA Kid Dynamite. Enough. God damn it. Enough.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Been taken. This guy came in as a 30-1 fighter, and he had a belt. So now he's the IBF and WBO World Super Flyweight Champion. Johnny is. He's got two belts now in a trailer. Right. 41-0-2. He fights Andy Agusto, who's 14-1 and again
Starting point is 00:14:28 12th round all decision majority oh it's a unanimous decision here we go keeps his belt next up fights uh rodolfo blanco 29-11 decision again 43-0-2 now not bad blanco lost points for low blows by the way. But he only got low blows because on two of the scorecards, the score was 120-107, which means Tapia won every single round and they took a point away from the guy for the low blows. That's what that means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Because that's fucking wild. That's an ass-kicking. So February 16, 1998. Oh, man. His grandparents wonder why johnny has abandoned them it's in the newspaper albuquerque tribune the headline is blow to the heart sad hurt grandparents wonder why tapia has abandoned them haven't got a clue holy shit quote if you really want to see hurt and suffering look into the eyes of of Miguel and Esther Tapia as they talk about the man-child, the grandson they raised after his mother was slaughtered on the streets of Albuquerque when he was eight years old.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Watch Esther Tapia, 72, turn away and try to hide prideful eyes rimmed with tears. Oh, this is dramatic. Look at Miguel Tapia, 79, as he stares at the floor, holding one trembling hand with the other. Jesus. Listen to the door to the small sawmill area house on 7th Street Northwest, where a young boy once mourned a dead mother. Slam shut in Johnny Tapia's face on the very day when Albuquerque opened its heart to its hometown or its homeboy hero. And listen to the saddest sound of all. An old man throwing fighting words in the face of the junior bantamweight champion of the world. A boxer Miguel Tapia once adored like a son.
Starting point is 00:16:15 This is his grandfather. Quote, I don't want nothing with Johnny no more. I don't want nothing with Johnny no more. My heart is too hurt. He hurt me and grandma. He has a new family now. If he comes here, I'll tell him to go to his other place. I'll tell him he has no love for us and just to get away.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I'm a man. He's a coward. He can go to hell. That's true. I'll never change the way I feel. Fuck my grandson. Yeah. Keep him.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Wow. He's really upset. That is hardcore, man. Did Johnny tell him or did he just not show up? Hasn't been around. Won't return calls probably. And holy shit, that is remarkable. He's an addict.
Starting point is 00:16:57 That's what happens. And yeah, I guess they said that they were giving away tickets at this Air Force base. But Jesus Christ. Anthony Tapia's uncle Johnny said, or Anthony Tapia, that's Johnny's uncle, said, quote, if the Tapias want to see Johnny fight, they buy tickets. That's right. And Nelly Tapia, his aunt, said Johnny has forgotten his grandparents. You see Johnny on TV saying how much he loves his grandpa and grandma,
Starting point is 00:17:23 but he hasn't talked to them since the Danny Romero fight in July, and it began long before that. To us, Johnny is someone else, a stranger. His grandma said, I worry for Miguel, the grandfather. He's been sick a lot lately, in and out of the hospital. No Johnny, no calls. I think a lot of this because of Johnny. Miguel keeps waiting for Johnny.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He sits in his room and waits. He worries. Johnny is not the same. If he would just come talk to us like a man, tell us how he feels, tell us he doesn't want us anymore, tell us something, but we hear nothing. Oh, my. And, uh, yep, Esther said, quote, that is Johnny's family now. It's like Johnny is ashamed of us. that is Johnny's family now. It's like Johnny is ashamed of us. Miguel said, he turned away from me like I'm nothing. I'm the one who first hung a bag on a tree for him to hit. Now he's got new people.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I'm the first person to punch that kid. I was the first person to say, hey, you got a good chin, kid. I gave you a pretty solid left and he didn't even fall. So, wow, yeah, they're talking about all this shit. He says, if Johnny doesn't want any, this is Nelly Tapia, an aunt. If Johnny doesn't want anything to do with his aunts and uncles and cousins, that's fine. It hurts us too because we're all there for Johnny in his hard times. But how can he do this to Miguel and Esther? They gave part of their life to Johnny. Wow. This is Oliver Tapia, an uncle of his, said Johnny has hurt them more than he has hurt anybody in the ring.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Miguel said he doesn't want Johnny around here anymore. I feel the same way. Johnny's a con man. He'll lie straight to your face. Jesus, they fucking go in the newspaper and- Con man and all this? Con man. That's bad. Miguel said, I am sad now.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't understand. So that's all it is. So he's abandoned his family and everything. He's fighting a guy who's 14 and four in August of 98. And he beats him in unanimous decision, 10 rounds. He moved up in weight, I think, because he has no belts. He has a bantam weight now. So he now fights Nana Yaw Kanadu.
Starting point is 00:19:21 First name Nana. Nana Yaw. Yeah, like Nana's middle name Yaw. 39-3 coming in, 41-5 career. And this is a majority decision, 12-round, you know, full go the distance here. And so he defeats the champion here and becomes a two-division world champion because now he's a bantamweight champion. Early 1999.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Things are going great, right? I suppose. He's winning. Has hasn't been arrested in a while yeah well here we go um he apparently does it has a suicide attempt here oh he attempts suicide by overdosing on drugs in vegas he is in a coma for third you sir may fuck off 36 hours in a coma oh my and he would spend six weeks in a rehab center after that seems like he could use it um april of 1999 they are now have taken in a child uh theresa's nephew they're now the legal guardians of theresa's nephew which is he gets out of rehab. Yeah, to come home to this? Yeah. So he said, though, that he's going to do well now. He found a home, he said.
Starting point is 00:20:33 He said that he's got his family there. He's got his wife, and he's no more cocaine, no more anger, none of this shit. I'm telling you. Now, as a matter of fact, he's a born-again Christian, so it's all going to work out now. What's that rule we have in crime and sports when everything's going horrible? Don't get married. He already broke that.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Don't find religion. Don't move back to Albuquerque. He hasn't broke that one yet. But he's, wow, they said, yep. And she said that he's doing so well. He says, quote, one day I'm in a jail cell. The next day I'm in a castle. I've been through everything. He's doing so well. He says, quote, one day I'm in a jail cell. The next day I'm in a castle. I've been through everything.
Starting point is 00:21:07 He's been through everything. And then he says that they have the six-year-old nephew, and that's going to be there, too. He's a legal guardian. And he says, he asked the boy, what do I tell you, son? And the boy said, you say I should play golf, not box. No drugs, no whiskey, no smoking, no guns guns is what the boy says he's trained he's trained on that tapia says the only loves in my life are my beautiful wife theresa and my son solo i've just taken in barely now if i were to die today i'd be a happy man okay because i just
Starting point is 00:21:38 could try to commit suicide by the way that i mentioned that um so he says that he saw he said his whole life was a mess before that he said with what i've done in my life i should be a zombie sitting on a street corner who would figure a former drug addict would be a three-time world champion well it happens constantly listen to our show you'll hear that pretty much most of the time almost every week yeah champion it's something here he's still undefeated which is fucking crazy yeah that's wild he said i wanted to have the fight uh in albuquerque so all the little people the ones week yeah champion it's something here he's still undefeated which is fucking crazy yeah that's wild he said i wanted to have the fight uh in albuquerque so all the little people the ones who don't have
Starting point is 00:22:10 money to go to las vegas or even watch it on showtime can some come see me fight i love albuquerque and i always will it'll always be home for me that's a mistake yeah so he's gonna have a fight in albuquerque everybody's very pumped uh theresa says solo has made johnny grow up the kid's done it he's done so much more he's been he's so much more mellow when he's around solo because his middle name is jonathan solo wants to go by the name johnny so people call him little johnny because he's got no parents um johnny says i've always wanted a son he has straightened out my life. You've got to give them love and attention.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You want to show them the good way. I don't want him to be what I was. Was, he says, by the way. We talk about caring and everything he needs as a man. Wow. Johnny says, when he gives me that sad face, it hurts me. I have to get mad, then I feel sorry for doing it, and then he's right back with me.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Please don't beat this kid up jesus christ so october or april 24th 1999 he fights alberto hungaro martinez and beats him in the first round with a knockout june 26 1999 paulie ayala he fights he's a good fighter 27 and1 coming in 35-3 for his career a real fighter Ayala he's a bad motherfucker at the Mandalay Bay this is a big giant fight it goes all 12 rounds and Johnny loses a unanimous decision it's a close one too
Starting point is 00:23:38 116-113-115 114-116-113 so it could have gone either way but it's his first loss. And the Ring magazine called it the fight of the year. It must have been a war, I'm sure, here. Teresa's brother was, I guess, a corner man here. But just before the fight, he was arrested for assaulting a police officer and hauled away from ringside before it started.
Starting point is 00:24:04 What the fuck, dude? He was missing a corner man here and there was a bunch of drama that would break your focus if you're a fighter so that's not great august 10th 1999 mother's murder case is solved oh no one would have thought of that yeah so after 24 years they closed the case do we know who was suspect they've identified won't be brought to justice, blah, blah, blah. He was killed in a traffic accident in 1983. Oh, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So they declined to name the suspect. We wouldn't have known who he was anyway. It's not like, it was Bruce Willis? Holy shit. I wanted to be the guy with the scratches. Yeah, no shit. They don't know. They said it's clear.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Oh, they said the report that came from the information said it's clear that the obvious offender is richard espinoza he had the motive he had the opportunity and he said i just want her to rest in peace is what johnny said i'm glad that we all know who killed her i'm sorry it took so long they could have done it a long time ago so they said i guess some of her acquaintances were interviewed but never charged according to police reports gallegos went to a nightclub, as we know all of that, and Espinoza was drinking heavily before he arrived at the club, and Gallegos decided to take him home. Gallegos, I guess she was going to drive.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Gallegos was found in the gravel pit the next morning. Reports that Espinoza had blood on his shoes and a bloody rag and a screwdriver were also found in his car the next day and they said that blood matched DNA the blood of Gallegos a notation on yeah a notation on the police report said that the case was turned over to the county district attorney's office but that office had no record of ever receiving the case last year Tapia asked the cops to reopen the case that's when it was discovered that evidence had been discarded that tapia thought the case had been forgotten but apparently it was because no
Starting point is 00:25:49 one knew what the fuck was going on in april they received an anonymous call that spelled out the details of the stabbing including some details that had never been made public apparently they didn't make the screwdriver thing public till later it was just the scissors and if somebody knew about the screwdriver that's the guy who knows what the fuck really happened yeah that's how they do it so they said that um according to the report the caller said that espinoza became angry at gallegos when she couldn't find his wallet and the argument led to the stabbing they said the caller also heard the story from espinoza while the two of them were drinking one night but did not come forward for fear that Espinoza would kill him.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Well, he died 15 years ago. So, holy shit. So they said, we feel like it's over. This is what Teresa says. They have a lot more solid evidence this time than they had in the original reports. And Tapia said he felt cheated. He said, I wish I could have gotten him, but I wouldn't be at the place I am now if I did. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:46 He's dead. But you don't just get to go out and dole out street justice. Yeah, you can't go out and vigilante this shit up. So January 8th, 2000, he fights Jorge Alesir Julio, 42-1 fighter here. And it's a unanimous 12-round decision here for Johnny. He wins again 47 and one so he comes back strong from losing a fight that's tough a loss is a tough for a person that can break their confidence he could get 50 wins let's find out april 30th 2000 seems like
Starting point is 00:27:18 2000 is too long for him to be going yeah that's a long time when you start in the 80s i know that's not when you're a lot of guys started Yeah, it just feels like it for 2000. Sounds like, ah, it's just too far away. So this here, there is an article in the Albuquerque Journal about Teresa. And it's titled, His One Only and Everything. Oh. Yeah. He said, quote, Johnny Tapia.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Wow. Had to stop and give it some thought. He had just been asked one of the tougher questions that's ever been posed to him. What would you list the titles Teresa has? Teresa is Johnny's wife, manager officially, but she's far more than that to a man who depends on her in virtually every aspect of his life. She's my manager. She helps train me. She's my CPA, my wife, my nurse, my mom. My wife does everything train me. She's my CPA, my wife, my nurse, my mom. My wife does everything for me.
Starting point is 00:28:06 She handles all his business affairs and also like, you know. Blows him. Blows him. So she is also venturing into promotion now as well. She's going to be a promoter there. So, okay, that's cool. She's gone from knowing virtually nothing about the business side of boxing to being so good at it that fighters call her asking her to manage them she hasn't signed contracts to handle any of them because
Starting point is 00:28:29 she's too busy with johnny he's a full-time job for anybody um yeah she says quote um it's hard to say right now what will happen in the future it all depends on what johnny wants to do when he stops fighting he might go into commentating or he might train boxers i'm in the middle of johnny's career right now. I don't have time for anything else. I thought you were going to say comedy. Yeah, maybe comedy. Maybe he'll hit the club circuit.
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Starting point is 00:30:37 So they said, we're with each other. Johnny said, we're with each other 24 hours a day. I'm addicted to Tree. That's his nickname for her. She's replaced my drugs she's the one habit i've never tried to shake wow um they had moved away from albuquerque and she said we all knew we had to leave leave albuquerque or he'd die there this was a crucial time in our lives and i didn't know much about boxing but i did know that johnny deserved a lot
Starting point is 00:31:02 more money than he was making that's why she started managing him she was sitting in the meetings going held on guys wait a second here so they said they've had no trouble since they're you know he attacked her with a gun at one time she said we were in deep debt we johnny owed the irs seventeen thousand dollars for back taxes but a boyhood friend saved them gave them money and uh, she said, we went to Joe and told him he couldn't pay taxes. He gave us the money. That's Joe Maloof, who attended Albuquerque High with him. It's got to be one of them. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I don't know what we – He's got $17,000 to just spend? But from Albuquerque? Is that where they're from? Who knows? I suppose I could check. I don't know what we would have done if Joe hadn't done that. So they've made good investments.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Johnny says, I've never paid a bill in my life. I've never written a check. Who would ever think that a drug addict and an alcoholic like me would ever have all of this? Right. When I first met her, it was, oh, this is the top-ranked matchmaker. He said, when I first met her, it was at Johnny's comeback fight. She was very quiet then. Over the years, she's made great strides as a manager, as I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:32:10 There have been women who have been managers, but it's still unusual. Yeah, I guess not. It would be, I guess. Yeah, that makes sense. So they're very excited. But she apparently, she said she had a year of business school. So that's helping, she said. But with boxing, that doesn't really matter. It's a year of business school so that's helping she said but with boxing that doesn't
Starting point is 00:32:25 really matter it's a lot of instinct okay yeah she just wanted to get johnny like i think a lot of it was honestly to try to be with him more sure so she could keep him keep him on the straight and narrow they are definitely from new mexico james that is crazy that's okay brother saved his life wow if they went to albuquerque high that's the guy yeah yeah that's crazy holy shit that's wild it's helpful that they would own a casino for him to fight in later on yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure how about it that is fucking crazy she said she wanted to go to college to study archaeology uh-huh but she never did she said i always wanted to travel and she said i'd love to go to greece
Starting point is 00:33:05 or on a safari but johnny could never sit on an airplane for that long and i certainly couldn't go without him sure yeah no so johnny says i don't really care about money i don't know what we have she can have it all she's earned it putting up with me i'd be lost without her i'd probably go back to the streets if she ever left me yeah if she sends him to the store for bread, she gives him like $3.28 or whatever it costs and says, come back with bread. And if you're not back in an hour, yeah, I'm looking for you. So he fights Pedro Javier Torres here,
Starting point is 00:33:38 a 32 and 14 fighter, unanimous decision win, September 27th, 2000. Here, he's got some depression problems here he said quote depression is messing with my head and now he has been hospitalized twice this summer suffering from bipolar depression now oh shit he said i see sadness with my wife when she looks at me and i don't like it he's in his fucking head and she said i've never seen johnny so exhausted as he was battling
Starting point is 00:34:05 depression johnny has to learn how to deal with it you see someone hurting like he was and you can't do anything about it i was sad because i was watching him battle something and i couldn't help it yeah he's needed help for yeah what his whole life now for 30 years at least at least since he was eight they fuck man um that's wild so apparently the last fight is when he tappy overheard a phone phone voice message that the slaying of his mother had been solved and people were thrown out of his locker room against his wishes and his brother-in-law was arrested that was that one he said i lost before i came out of the dressing room that was his first loss said it was a fucking mess. There was a whole issue here.
Starting point is 00:34:48 He has been on medication that was supposed to help him. But Teresa said they never checked with boxing officials to see whether the drug was approved or not. So he could take, you know, he might get suspended. He said, I didn't want to take it. It puts you on cloud nine. It's supposed to keep you out of depression. It mellows you to a normal level. He also said, that's what I'm trying to find out.
Starting point is 00:35:09 He also says, my age is kicking in. I've had 173 total fights, including amateur, but I still train like I'm young. So he said, in the last fight with Ayala, I couldn't control myself worth a damn. I've changed since then. I'm under control now. I'm in a good situation, knowing I'm getting better with age. So his wife says Johnny's always lived his life on the edge. It's a real worry.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So next up, he fights Ayala again on October 17th, 2000, and Ayala beats him again in a unanimous decision loss. Very close again. 115, 113, 115, 113,3 same shit so it's a lot and he said following the fight commentator said that tapia put on a clinic and something's not right basically saying that he should have won the fucking fight yeah yeah they said that he everybody that saw it apparently thought the same thing that tapia got fucking robbed on that one and that's what happens with decisions sometimes you do get robbed so he's 48 based on judges yeah that's what happens with decisions sometimes. You do get robbed. So he's 48-2-2.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Based on judges, yeah. That's what I mean. So next up, he fights a guy who he beats in six rounds, 49-2-2. May 2000, his dogs kill prize goats, okay? His or somebody else's goats? Somebody else's goats. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Okay. His or somebody else's goats? Somebody else's goats. Oh, no. Yeah. So the neighbors are very upset because his Neapolitan mastiffs had run over there and done that. So killed a bunch of these fucking goats. And there's a 13-year-old kid who's very upset about it and said they were like prize-winning goats.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's fucking ridiculous. So they're upset they want i guess they wanted to they dug their way under a fence surrounding the goat barn and used their huge neapolitan massifs or huge dogs they started fucking goats up just doing all sorts they also knocked the locked gate and the barn off the hinges as well my then uh the dogs commenced they called a quote bloody rampage that killed 19 goats and destroyed 13 fetuses carried by the victims holy six goats died in the barn before they could get out most of the rest scrambled outside and huddled terrified in the corner of the barnyard fence until the dogs mauled them to death holy my god it's a bloodbath yeah they just had a fucking bloodbath they just went in
Starting point is 00:37:26 there and ate these motherfuckers so their one one goat survived and was laying out in a pasture with bite marks all over him they said so it was horrible so now they want these dogs to be put down for sure yeah so they said that that's how it is and um the kid's very upset. The kid said, I've even caught myself going out to feed them, and they weren't there. Oh, my God. Poor goats. That is vicious. Jesus Christ, man. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Looking for the goats that aren't there with a handful of whatever the fuck goats eat. Looking for the goats, man. He said, I learned I needed a new fence. That's what they said. Has this taught you anything? And he said, I learned I needed a new fence. That's what they said. Has this taught you anything? And he said, I learned I needed a new fence. And I learned there are good people out there. People who've helped me by giving
Starting point is 00:38:10 me goats, giving me checks, and just giving me help. It's gratifying that so many people care. So the goat people are okay there. So, Jesus Christ, Johnny's dog's attacking fucking goats. So, June 30th, 2001, he fights Cesar Soto, La Cobrita is his name.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yes, he's 54-9, this guy, La Cobrita. And this is at Mandalay Bay, knockout in three rounds. That's his 50th win for Johnny. Oh. You were right. Yep. He got there. 52-2, he is.
Starting point is 00:38:45 August 2001, he says, quote, I've had my last fight. I'm never going to fight again. He did it. He just wanted to get to 50. I guess he wanted to get to 50. That's it. So August 30, 2001, he tries to kill himself again. Oh.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Well, he has had his last fight. He's had his last fight with that. So, yep, apparently the wife and trainer here same person theresa said that he was being treated following an attempt she wouldn't say where he was being treated but she said that he's battling severe depression he has suicidal tendencies i won't say any more than that he's um a lot of trouble man he said i'm tired of everything that goes on outside the ring i just don't want to do it no more. That's what he told the journal. He said that he felt that both decisions that he lost against Ayala where he was
Starting point is 00:39:29 cheated. So he thought he was cheated out of his whole career, basically. So, January 19, 2002, he's fighting again. Is that right? Absolutely. Within six months, he's back in the ring. I guess he needs it for his mental health. He needs to fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:39:45 But you can't box forever. Boxing is for mental health. He's just running away from himself, and he needs to be running towards something or else he's fucked. So he fights a guy who is 20. Oh, this is El Finito again here. He fights El Finito. First round TKO for Johnny. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:04 51-2-2. Yes. absolutely. So he's been doing pretty goddamn well. Next, though, he gets called into court. This is fucking amazing. A lawsuit from the Las Cruces Holiday Inn over thousands of dollars in unpaid hotel bills. How long do you have to stay at a holiday inn before it racks into the thousands of dollars six seven years before they stop at your table and go hey enough of nothing
Starting point is 00:40:30 enough of nothing but you know it's a lot of money it's a great fucking six fucking g's you know it's not small then the sneeze that so uh they said that there was he was supposed to have a fight with prince nasim hamed but now this might fuck it up now because they're talking about, I don't know why this would fuck it up. It makes no sense. The Holiday Inn could ruin your life? They said Hamed's people are multimillionaires. They just want to fight. When you make a deal, you have to look at who's bringing the deal.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Tapia's controversy probably scared the Hameds. Okay. He's so poor he can't pay for the Holiday Inn. He's going to beat me is what he said. He's fighting for fucking for coke money here. This is a desperate man. More than $20,000.
Starting point is 00:41:13 How do you rack up $20,000 in Holiday Inn? I don't know how they let him get to that. He never paid the hotel for 120 rented rooms, meals, and hosting of news conferences in May and March of 2000. During that time, he was promoting and then winning the fight against Javier Torres in the Pan American Center. They've recently tried to blame Patrick Holmes, who made the reservations, and they said, no, no, you owe us the money.
Starting point is 00:41:39 So they're trying to get money from them for this. Somebody made reservations in my name. Go after that guy. get money from them for this so many made reservations in my name go after that guy yeah and then i also a miami-based travel agency c and j travel corp says team tappy owes four thousand dollars for unpaid non-refundable airline tickets oh boy so yeah that's the thing here and they said that they purchased nine thousand dollars worth of tickets and then canceled them without paying the airlines wiped away five thousand the expenses the tappies still owe them for because they were non-refundable tickets apparently so four thousand
Starting point is 00:42:10 dollars wait twenty four thousand dollars in fucking travel fees travel shit so who knows here so they're trying to figure out what the fuck he's gonna do is he gonna he's got a box to pay the shit off i assume he's gonna pay off his hotel bills, which is hilarious, I think. August 27, 2002, he fights Manuel Medina here. 60-11 coming in. Wins a majority decision. Very close fight. 115-113, 115-113, 114-114.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Oh, boy. A lot of people thought that the other guy should have won. Really? Yes, definitely. So he's 52-2. Next up, Marco Antonio Barrera, who's a good fighter, also known as the baby-faced assassin, by the way. Why not? Baby-faced assassin versus baby-faced assassin.
Starting point is 00:42:58 55-3 coming into this fight for this guy against 52-3. So not too shabby here. We got 107 wins and 6 losses amongst these two. Oh, shit. Not bad. And this is at the MGM. Las Vegas goes all 12, and Tapia loses a unanimous decision,
Starting point is 00:43:15 and this was not even close, it looked like. It was 118-110, 118-110. He got his ass kicked in this one. He's got to quit now, right? I would hope so. I mean, he's getting his 35, 236. He's getting up there. January 10, 2003, drug charges again for Tapia.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Oh, boy. Yep, faces felony drug charge after a police standoff at his home. They'd gone to the home here in Golden Valley after after this is in arizona by the way after getting a tip that tappy his cousin was there said a mojave sheriff's department deputy here the cousin 31 year old raymond whiting was wanted on a warrant for failing to appear on aggravated assault and weapons charges that was the guy who has had a murder trial 10 years ago that he was intimidating the witness of remember that yeah so holy shit whiting is suspected of trying to slash a woman's throat during a carjacking in Albuquerque last April.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Oh, dear God. Maybe put that guy away. Police said the standoff started when the men refused to leave the home. After about an hour, police forced open a door to the home and used the public address system to ask Whiting to come out. Fortunately, the situation resolved itself, they said. They then went in and another man, Walter Joseph Michael Beck, 26, was arrested on cocaine possession charges.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Tappy was not arrested but was summoned into court on felony charge of possession of drug paraphernalia later on. They said he was very cooperative with the detectives. That's nice. He didn't fight anyway, so that's good. By the way, the Whiting guy had pleaded guilty to that murder. Oh. Apparently he was let out at some point.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah, caught. Yep. January 3rd, not that murder, the first murder, the Raymond Whiting guy. The one that Tapia was allegedly intimidating people on. Whiting ended up pleading to that and was out again to slash and carjack. Wow. Very nice. January 13th, 2003, he collapses in his home.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Tapia does. Fell down and lost consciousness and is in critical to serious condition. Upgraded from critical to serious here. So he was admitted after he was charged with possessing drug paraphernalia placed on a respirator and being treated for head trauma jesus christ overdose standing up yeah apparently he'd been given a citation after the standoff then he returned to his las vegas home several hours later with his wife and that's when he fell down he said that's all they would
Starting point is 00:45:45 say he fell down he's sick his condition gets upgraded uh a little bit after that but they're trying to figure out exactly what the hell is wrong with him family members said tappy was taken from his room for a cat scan and other tests and they don't know what the fucking results of them are so um anyway a lot of felony charges going on with the cousin. We do know that. January 14, 2003, they said, recently hospitalized, Tapia's location and condition remains unclear. Nobody knows what's going on with him. He's like somewhere private. They don't know what's up.
Starting point is 00:46:19 They said he was on life support and comatose at first when he came in. And now Freddie Roach, his longtime trainer, now it's his trainer and close friend, said Tappy had been moved into another room in the hospital. So nobody knows what's up. They said that notes from the initial 911 call included references to possible overdose, taking painkillers, thinking attempted suicide and holding his chest. So there was some stuff there, obviously. They said his wife and manager said that she did not make the call. So that wasn't her. Somebody else made the call.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And they said, well, who would have done that? And she said, that's a personal matter, and I don't think it needs to be disclosed. That's not good. Is she a mistress? Did he get caught fucking around by almost dying? That's a really bad way to get caught fucking around here. Having to grab her while getting a blowy from not your wife? Ouch.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Oh, God. OD, OD. Or heart attack. Oh, my God. So Teresa said, Johnny needs rest and time to recover. His brain scan was fine. Everything was fine in his chest scan. I'm relieved and thankful.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I'm glad we got a second chance together and we'll make use of it. That's right. And they also said the doctor said all tests concluded no damage to his heart or brain. Not from this anyway. Right. Maybe from other things, but not for this. They said that Teresa said that she concluded that his boxing career has not been jeopardized also. Fine.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And she said, we're not thinking about boxing right now, though. That's probably for the best, I would say, at this point. So February 11, 2003, there's comments to be aired on HBO's segment on Johnny Tapia, where he says, quote, I don't got no more chances Johnny Camp Johnny Tapia can't do nothing wrong no more because he'll die I don't want to go next time I die I'm out it's over next time I die I'm out next time I die I'm fucking done bro I'm not doing this all the time next time I die is the name of this episode next time that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard in my life that's very tired of doing all this dying
Starting point is 00:48:31 he said i'm not going to be able to come back this next time my nine lives are over this last time was just terrible terrible terrible so he talks about that uh having relapses and he hopes that he can help others he said he said that he can help others, he said. He said that you can't. Don't, he tells kids. That's what he tells them. How to not do drugs, I tell them don't. That's right.
Starting point is 00:48:55 He said, four months ago, I relapsed. I was dead at home. I was in a coma for 36 hours and on life support for two days. They asked my wife if she wanted to pull the plug. I'm an alcoholic and an addict. I've got a lot of problems. Today I'm clean. Tomorrow may never come. I'm trying to get back on my feet.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Drugs are taking over everybody. Who you hang out with is who you are. He's just going into every cliche he knows. He really is. He's rattling off country songs. Yeah, that's what it is. Who you hang with is who you are. If Tomorrow Never Comes is a Garth Brooks song. I'm what it is. Who you hang with is who you are. If Tomorrow Never Comes is a Garth Brooks song.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I'm sure it is. Tappy, they said, is sometimes a poster child for recovery, sometimes a poster child for failure. He said, I can't get it anywhere or anyplace. It was offered to me Friday. When you're famous, you get it for free. Oh, I can get it anywhere. He's talking about drugs. You get it for free.
Starting point is 00:49:44 When you're out of money, you have to pay for it. So, yeah, that's how it goes. And they said the drug problem around where he's living is very bad either. The Rio Arriba County Sheriff said that he was glad to have Tapia talking about drugs in his county. I think people look up to him. Hopefully he'll make the difference. Yeah, they'll all stop doing drugs now. Everybody here thinks a lot of him.
Starting point is 00:50:06 He says, yeah, it's all fixed. It's all good now. It's, you know, don't worry. It's super easy just to not do this. He's good now. You know what? Let's see here. He says, I want to reach out to those young kids.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I know what it is to struggle. I'm still struggling. No matter how many times you fall, you can pick yourself back up. I think with this hospital thing, God made me bigger and better and stronger. With this hospital thing. Hospital thing. They said, how long have you been addicted during the Q&A? And he said, all my life. Yeah. Being here and talking with you helps me. I see you smiling and that makes me happy. I do what I do to help just one person stay away from drugs he said i'm add adhd bc dc i'm everything there is he adds jokingly bc dc the van buddy no you think he fucked that up a
Starting point is 00:50:57 little bit he could have added also he's bipolar but he put that there he said he's made his mind up he's wants to quit and uh that's that he's ready to go he's good now he's the definition of it they said if there's a person there's one person and he smiled and gave me a hug i'd be happy he said that's all he's doing this for he's fighting again september 2003 carlos contraris uh he beats this guy unanimous decision. This guy's only a 19 and seven fighter coming in and it goes all 10 rounds. So that's not great. December 21st, 2003. He, uh, overdoses on flu medication.
Starting point is 00:51:33 What kind? He said, if I'm going to overdose, I'm going to go for it. I'm not hesitating. You know, he was laughing here. Uh, cause he said he felt saying that's not the, I wasn't, I didn't do it on accident. It was, I did it on accident. It's not like I'm addicted to this shit. Yeah, he said it's it.
Starting point is 00:51:47 He said, you know, it's the last trip. It was a silly mistake. That's all it was, too much. Her husband took cough medicine that she had been prescribed for a cold. He didn't know it had codeine in it. That's the story they're giving here. He's allergic to codeine and started having trouble breathing and broke out in a big rash. So then he took some Benadryl to try to get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Then he took some Tylenol because his chest was sore from coughing. Yeah. So she called nine one one when he stumbled into the bedroom and fell into a deep sleep. So they said, take the cough medicine. That's the question. Did he,
Starting point is 00:52:21 that's how he started. I guess so. And the drug screen at the hospital said he had a high level of Tylenol in his system. Jesus Christ. That's the question. Did he have a cough? That's how he started. I guess so. And the drug screen at the hospital said he had a high level of Tylenol in his system. Okay. Jesus Christ. That's fucking funny. High level of Tylenol. March 5th, 2004, Frankie Archuleta, he's fighting.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah. At the New Mexico Highlands University in Las Vegas. Oh, God. Las Vegas, New Mexico. I guess it is, yeah. This is a split decision, all 10 rounds, and Johnny loses this fight. Oh, God. He's 53-4 and 2. After the fight,
Starting point is 00:52:50 he said he was sick before the fight. He had flu-like symptoms, threw up, and was coughing throughout the press conference. He said, I couldn't stop the fight. There were too many people who were coming to see it. I did what I had to do. And he said, I have no excuses. Frankie beat me fair and square.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Okay. That's that. They said, it's a minor setback. Everybody's ready for a rematch. That's the only way we're going to get vindicated. Jesus Christ. Tapia said, there's no shame in my game. I give Frankie respect, but I'd love to do it again.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Because I need the money. I need the money. Real fucking bad here. So here's why. Because I need the money. I need the money real fucking bad here. So here's why. On I-40, June 7, 2004, his niece is hurt very badly in a rollover accident.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yes, apparently Kenneth Martinez, a 19-year-old, was driving west near the I-40 at 4.30 a.m. when he lost control of the car and it rolled over, and this girl was injured here. So that was a big thing that was on there. car and it rolled over and this girl was injured here so that was a big thing that was on there january 22nd 2005 he fights nicky bentz b-e-n-t-z which sounds like a porn star sure does nicky bentz's anal adventure you know that's that sounds like something it's always in the back she's bent she's bent that's what i mean she's bent over that's why i got anal out of that so 36 three and two this guy is. Split decision. Goes all 10 rounds.
Starting point is 00:54:07 There hasn't been a knockout in a while. He's going a lot of rounds. So many. 54-2, or 54-4 now. Next up, again in 2005, Jesus Christ, he's almost 40 now. Yeah. Frankie Archuleta again. He fights.
Starting point is 00:54:22 This time he wins a unanimous decision. Everybody 96-94 on all the cards. Unanimous again. 55-4. So June 23, 2005, he's going to get a shot at another title. Oh, my. What the fuck is happening here? How is that possible?
Starting point is 00:54:39 Who wants to see that? That's what I mean. Then what? He's going to be champ for how many more years? He's like 39 years old. He's not going to defend it. No. no he said i'm very thankful very pleased i'm where i'm at today because of everybody i asked everybody to give me a prayer okay that's what he's doing he said it's worth it he's gonna fucking he's gonna try to do this shit july 7 2005 his bout is canceled yeah yeah his bout's canceled um they said that, I don't know why it's canceled, though, here.
Starting point is 00:55:08 They never say. Oh, they couldn't agree on financial terms in the end. That's what it was. Or his opponent would be arrested for elderly abuse. That's the other problem. He's probably, well, he's still fighting well, though. He's still getting to fucking go in the distance with everybody who's in the middle of their career. Yeah, but four fights ago, he said he was done. Done completely. He's still career. Yeah, but four fights ago he said he was done.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Done completely. He's still doing it. That was like 2001 he said he was done completely. It's 2005 now. July 24, 2005, Johnny gets in a little fight. And, yeah, a little fight in a bar. Not in the ring, though. I don't know why he's in a bar, but Tappy and some friends got into a brawl with another group around 6 p.m.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Oh, my. 6 p.m. at the Sidelines Sports Grill and Bar. He went to the sports bar and got in a fight at 6 p.m. What day? It's a fucking Friday night. What was happening at this time? They need to be at a sports bar. People are with their kids eating chicken fingers.
Starting point is 00:56:02 That's what happened. It's 6 fucking p.m. on a Friday. There's a giant novelty pizza on a table somewhere, and we're boxing. Ridiculous. So they said they got in a big fight, and there were no more than three on three on each side, is what the cops said. One guy suffered a chipped tooth and a bruised cheek. Not a big deal. And people said, witnesses said that they did not see tapia throw a punch oh that's
Starting point is 00:56:25 good but anyway they left in a white or beige hummer and they said the folks there got the license and the vehicle was registered to the tapia family wow so they're gonna blame it on them but they don't know was there was he fighting people is he not fighting people they said the tapia group cleared out quickly after the brawl so fast they didn't even leave a tip. They said they had a bill of about $99. They just threw $90 on the bar and walked out. Nobody got hurt. Except for the bartender.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. Nobody got hurt in the fight, and we didn't have to tip. And no tip. Maybe that's how they get out of tipping. Yeah. That's why they. They just order a bunch of shit, throw some of it on the table, and leave. All I've got is the bill money right now, so somebody hit me.
Starting point is 00:57:11 No shit. They said, indications are both sides have consumed alcohol, but it's not a DUI investigation or anything of that effect. If we had stopped him and he had been drinking and he'd been driving,'s important and we would have proceeded forward witnesses said johnny was driving so we don't know if he's been drinking or anything like that as well though that's the problem so september 16 2005 sandro marcos he fights oh my god gets knocked out in the second round by a guy who's 23 and 13 oh boy time to hang it up, Johnny. You're over 40. It's over now. Or you're 39.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It's done here. This guy is a 26 and 20 career fighter who's knocked you out in the second round. And he's never been knocked out before. So his next fight's supposed to be in December, but he pulls out of the fight saying he has back injuries sparring. That means you're too old.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Right. If you're practicing and you hurt your back, that means you're old.. Right. If you're practicing and you hurt your back, that means you're old. Yeah. Stop. Enough. Enough. He said, I want to say I'm very sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I went to throw a left hook and ended up twisting my back. Yeah, that means you're not. I threw my back out. That's what you did. You threw your back. Throwing a left hook, like most men over 40 would probably do. That's the problem. He said, my wife has to tie my shoelaces
Starting point is 00:58:26 for me yes that's a man that just threw his back out but now they're giving him steroid shots and he gained 10 pounds yeah so there's that he's a little more uh muscular now good for him but uh holy shit what a fucking mess too much it's too much for this guy already. He's going to fight again, isn't he? What do you think? He threw out his back. He threw out his back. I wouldn't fucking fight anymore if I was him. Right under him, maybe he threw out his back doing this. Maybe he threw out his back at the Gold Club,
Starting point is 00:58:56 because there's an ad right under it for the best hiney contest on Thursdays. Oh, hell yeah. Over at the Gold Club. And then they have a Toys for Tatas as well. Which I guess you bring toys and they put your tits in them. Free admission with a toy. That sounds like it's a strip club. Oh, it is.
Starting point is 00:59:15 It's the Gold Club. It's got to be, yeah. It's a different version of the Gold Club. The nicest hiney and Toys for Tatas. Bring toys and you don't pay the cover. You get to see tits. That's it. Free titties.
Starting point is 00:59:25 The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Bing! The queen of the courtroom is back.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases.
Starting point is 00:59:47 She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor.
Starting point is 00:59:59 You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door the emmy award-winning series returns how did i know that i have crystal ball in my head it's an all-new season it's streaming you can say anything judy justice only on freebie february 23rd 2007 he's fighting again oh my god everisto premiero 14 9 and 1 coming in uh this is an albuquerque again and this is a majority decision after 10 rounds he wins it
Starting point is 01:00:40 wow doesn't even beat this guy soundly yeah but he's sore for a few days 56 5 and 2 the next day he retires this is 2007 for christ's sake wow this is insane so yeah it's been it's enough now he wanted to go out on a high note that's what he said so he did that's what he's doing march 12 2007 which is a couple weeks later, he is hospitalized, taken to the hospital after paramedics respond to an early morning call about someone who wasn't breathing in their hotel room. Oh, no. They said it appeared to be an overdose and that Tapia would be charged with possession of a controlled substance. Wow. They said he had labored breathing and was choking on vomit at the time.
Starting point is 01:01:22 They discovered a plastic bag containing a white substance. Tests confirm it's cocaine. So he wasn't trying to sell it to anyone. He was doing it. Obviously he's got a problem with that. And this is like a couple, Jesus Christ. In the pre-fight remarks in the last fight too,
Starting point is 01:01:36 he said his days of hard living were behind him. And he described how his three children have firmly grounded him. He said, yeah, he said every day I'm doing good but if i want to go drink right now i can which is a weird thing to say he said nobody tells me what i can or cannot do i do what i want to do i'm trying to do for my family and myself but if i want to go party a party that's an addict that's an addict who's a non-repentant addict. He's going to do it. Don't tell me I can't be an addict.
Starting point is 01:02:06 If I want to be an addict, I fucking will. Um, March 13th, 2007, uh, Teresa's brother is killed in an early morning car, car crash here.
Starting point is 01:02:15 A school bus driver found Robert Gutierrez and a man who went by men, uh, Ben Garcia in a field near an elementary school. Uh, Tapia fan family here, what does this say? Oh, is already handling the hospitalization of Johnny Tapia, who is in serious condition. So Teresa's got a brother in one hospital and a husband in another hospital. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:35 At this point. Apparently they were driving and for some reason they drifted off the right-hand side of the road and overcorrected. They skidded across the northbound lane and went off the far left-hand side of the road where they overturned. So, yeah, that's not good here. This kid was 23 years old, by the way. I guess. So, both were ejected from the vehicle, pronounced dead at the scene.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Turns out, you know where they were going? Where? To the hospital to see Johnny. Really? They were rushing to the hospital to see Johnny. Yep. Wow. That's what happened here.
Starting point is 01:03:07 So March 27, 2007, here, oh, Jesus Christ, Tapia. Oh, these are people complaining. These are editorials with people complaining. Somebody says, quote, Tapia, a patient, not a criminal. They said he's one of the warmest, nicest human beings one could ever hope to meet. He is, according to reports, bipolar. That's a mental illness we used to call manic depression. It's a sad and hereditary disease.
Starting point is 01:03:30 And like a lot of people with mental illness, the victims often medicate themselves through drug and alcohol. It's an illness. He ought to be treated with compassion as a patient, not a criminal. That's from a reverend named James Anderson. Next editorial. Tappy has got to stop being a victim and he's in critical condition because he chose to party that's what this guy says so uh may 20 or may 17 2007 no prison time for tapia they're going to give him
Starting point is 01:03:59 a second chance here okay the program is called second chance this is like his 48th chance honestly 73rd chance with johnny tapia the man's barely ever served a day behind bars he hasn't done much and this is he's going to the second chance center which is a lockdown drug rehab so you're sentenced to be there and you have to be there obviously so he's going and um he said so so let people know i'm sorry and maybe i can get my head straight that's what it is so he's gonna do that um yeah he's trying to get off the drugs obviously and we'll see what the fuck happens august august 14 2007 johnny fails a drug test in rehab for cocaine in rehab for cocaine. That is amazing. Taking it real serious.
Starting point is 01:04:51 The judge agreed to let him leave the second chance treatment program after he completed his stay. So he checked himself into the program after pleading guilty to the felony possession charge. Under the release here, he was in a community custody program that requires him to wear an ankle monitor. So he must be tested for drugs. And he fucking failed it. So that's pretty dumb of him august 25th 2007 the judge gives him one more chance yeah ordered to spend four weeks in another rehab center jesus fucking christ man is it ever gonna stop he said no mr tapia you're really on thin ice with the state and the court on this matter. At what point is he underwater, everybody?
Starting point is 01:05:26 What the fuck, man? Yeah, he said that if you come back without having completed the program, you're going to the penitentiary of the state of New Mexico. So that's that. You're like a rich kid named Braxton. You're on real thin ice, Braxton. You better not rape any more girls at school, buddy. I'll tell you what. If you and your friends run any more trains on any more unconscious young fucking freshmen,
Starting point is 01:05:49 I am going to really shake my finger. If I find out you got your hands on GMT, we're really going to have a problem. I'll take the keys away. Shake, shake, shake. But there's people the judge said, well, he's a danger to himself, not to anybody else. So, you know, that's why I'm doing this. Wow. Teresa said everyone agrees that he's had a lot of chances now it's up to him to do the best he can with it and if he's not going to do that zero tolerance and i think that's the way it should be all around
Starting point is 01:06:15 not just with the judge his family his friends everyone wow that is fucking interesting oh by the way right under that there's an ad for a big gun thing. It's a big gun store. Ron Peterson's Firearms here. They're having a 39th anniversary sale, and their big thing is, we have the bayonets for all the shown rifles. Come on down and pick up the knife for your long gun. In case you're trying to fucking retake Little Round Top,
Starting point is 01:06:43 you'll be fucking well prepared to make a charge. What the fuck are you talking about? Fix bayonets, boys. I get that people put them on when they go javelina hunting, I know. But still, Jesus Christ. It's ridiculous. Oh, man. So let's see here.
Starting point is 01:07:02 November 18,, 2007. He never made it to that rehab center. Really? Yep. The service center had no place to put him. So he's undergoing court approved counseling and random drug testing while living in Las Cruces. So he pleads guilty to cocaine possession. And Teresa said he's been tested for drugs once or twice a week.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Whenever they feel like it, they can test him. They do it randomly. He's been clean so far. The district attorney's office has been very happy with him. That's nice. August 26, 2008, he gets probation for another drug possession charge that he pleaded guilty to. That was a federal possession charge that sent him to a 30-day inpatient program there.
Starting point is 01:07:44 So May 17, 2008 2008 he's supposed to fight he pulls out of a fight he pulls out last minute on his comeback card here oh boy jesus are you fucking kidding me that is wild uh i guess the wow he pulls it i guess it was happening at the time here it was supposed to be the first of several fights for Tapia signed with an El Paso promoter who was going to do all this shit. Apparently, there was all sorts of problems in the failed attempt for a fight here. They had a big falling out, and then Tapia didn't fight. That's what happened. Apparently, the fight had been a last minute opponent they said and he blamed the promoter
Starting point is 01:08:26 this is so fucking weird man so they ended up calling off the fight which is he just thought the whole thing was shitty I guess they said this is between the fighter and the financial backer they could not agree verbally and the contract was not valid
Starting point is 01:08:41 interesting so he's not going to be fighting apparently I he i guess he wants 60 000 that's what they said i don't know what's going on here so there you go are they want 60 000 it's hard to figure out who wants what maybe they're all insurance policy for 60 000 they're all very upset here june 26 2008 uh Tapia's title belt and ring are stolen. They're taken from his home. The Dona Ana County
Starting point is 01:09:11 Sheriff's Department is asking for people to come forward, and he said, you know, these things mean a lot for him. The belt is green and has the words, World Champion on it. It's literally, in the paper it said, the belt is green and has the words World Champion and National Association Boxing Federation inscribed on it. The literally in the paper it said the belt is green and has the words world champion and national association boxing federation inscribed on it the words on the ring we read world five-time champion in case you come across a random fucking boxing belt
Starting point is 01:09:36 check and see if it's the one i'm sure i'm sure there's several of these but this is what how would they oh my god unbelievable um that's it's a boxing belt it stands out you guys yeah if you see one it's probably his how many are out there you know august 9 2008 johnny's grandfather dies at 89 they never they never fixed it no and he said everything i owe or everything I know is because of my grandfather. I owe everything to him. He'd been diagnosed with dementia recently and died in a nursing home. Johnny said, he developed my jab and my right hook. He's the guy who hung a bag from a tree.
Starting point is 01:10:15 That's what it was. So that's fucking interesting. They never made up, I don't think. February 12th, 2009, Tappy is under arrest again for what oh yeah what do you think jimmy drugs it is co-fucking-cane here being held he sentenced to probation last april after this but they said this time it's a little bit different apparently he was arrested at his northwest albuquerque home tuesday afternoon and uh they said that it was something to do with cocaine here that was that so he shouldn't
Starting point is 01:10:46 have anything to do with cocaine i don't think or he's probably in a shitload of trouble stop it no shit what a fucking mess so he's been all over the place obviously and he even said to you're only this is what he said the week before you're only a drink away from being drunk you're only a snort away from being at an addict i'm tired of being on that pattern but it's hard he could have been such a great ballad writer in the 80s he really could have he really should have tried that bad so yeah tapia says if you say then you say boxing is over i'll probably have some sparring partners out there in the correction system so says even if he goes to jail he won't stop boxing he's always gonna want to fucking box he doesn't care he's ready to goddamn roll with this boxing bullshit duh jesus christ march 14th 2009 um the oh yeah johnny tapia
Starting point is 01:11:37 was threatened with prison he can't make a deal he's trying to make a deal they want him to be in jail he doesn't want to be in jail. Right. You know how it goes. Similar fight with a lot of criminals every day. No shit. One of them said, one of the DAs said, quote, Tapia is obviously still using cocaine. If a drug user keeps using drugs, I'm going to send him to prison. It doesn't matter if you're Johnny Tapia or John Doe. I don't really care.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Oh, boy. He's in trouble. April 2nd, 2009 talking he's talking about trying to get into acting oh by the way he's talking about that at one point which is fucking hilarious he did a he uh did a nine day stint in jail and then he went to hollywood for drug rehab and he's like yeah i could probably act too you know what i mean i met a few actors in there can't tell you well yeah he was, he's ready to appear. He wants to appear on VH1's Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Oh. So he thinks that'll help a lot. He's scheduled to take part in the Celebrity Rehab in May, as the lawyer said. So he's ready to go. That's right. April 30, 2009, New Mexico Supreme Court declines to hear his petition. He's trying to get a petition to be released from prison for a fight.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Oh. Because he's being held. So he's like, this is ridiculous. He's being held for violating his probation. You're infringing on my rights to make enough money to support my family. That's what he's saying. Jesus. I'm sure, yeah, I'd like to go out there and make more coke money, please. Jesus Christ. May 15th, 2009.
Starting point is 01:13:04 He is released from prison here so he's ready to go he's ready to fight again i guess um may 21st 2009 for the parole board opts to keep him in albuquerque so he's not allowed to go do celebrity rehab okay not allowed to do it so no johnny tapia on, which they said the parole board wouldn't let him go. They said they wouldn't allow him to travel. That's what Teresa said. She was hoping he'd be able to be on it because, you know, why not? Maybe he'll help.
Starting point is 01:13:33 She wants to meet Flava Flav. Can't fucking hurt, right? Oh, man. So, yeah, she has to go to some other one, some other rehab place and whatever. So he's got to do rehab either way, but he's not going to get to do it with Dr. Drew. Or Gary Busey. Or Gary Busey. Or fucking the guy from, or Jeff Conway, or the guy from Taxi.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Or the poor bastard. Or Kanicki. Or Kanicki. Can't do it with Kanicki. Yeah, he's definitely dead. Yeah. July 7th, 2009, he's arrested again. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Arrested on parole violations. His wife said he's done nothing again. Oh, man. Arrested on parole violations. His wife said he's done nothing wrong. Oh? Nothing at all. She said, quote, Johnny didn't do anything wrong. He was arrested. It's just, I don't know even what the probation violations are here.
Starting point is 01:14:27 They're saying that he was traveling without permission, I guess, from New Mexico probation and parole officer entering a liquor establishment on the Red River and engaging in a verbal confrontation while in a bar. So it's like two things he shouldn't be doing. That sounds like a lot of shit there. So, yeah, he's got a lot of problems. So September 10, 2009, he's going back to prison again. Yeah, he's going back to prison. He's violated his probation. He's violated his parole.
Starting point is 01:14:44 He's got all sorts of things. They have like five bracelets on him. He's got both his he's violated his parole he's got all sorts of things they they have like five bracelets on him he's got both his wrists both his ankles he's got a big one around his neck collar with a bell on it yeah he's got a collar with a bell he looks like an electric fence for a dog he's got wearing around his neck the man went into a bar he's gotta know he's not allowed in there you can't go into bars and then you're getting a fight in there yeah which to me says you're probably doing something because sober people rarely fight in bars and then you get in a fight in there yeah which to me says you're probably doing something because sober people rarely fight in bars and if they do they're called bouncers they have a job they have a job october 10th 2009 he gets credit for time served
Starting point is 01:15:16 they're gonna let him get out of jail december 8th 2009 uh here he, this is fucking funny. Johnny Tapia, this is an editorial thing, Johnny Tapia has been a loser for many years and yet he's still on the front page of the Sunday Journal. Find some fresh, uplifting stories in the Christmas season, not in a drug-abusing, washed-up boxer. Oh my. Jesus, that's somebody
Starting point is 01:15:39 complaining to the newspaper. December 16th, 2009, more people saying, get him out of the paper why do you keep putting his shameful face on the front of our paper is he our only local celebrity the answer to that is yes you're in fucking albuquerque stupid you dumb shit i can't think of another i mean i didn't even know the maloops are from there you say you want cody easter whatever the fuck the guys from there you want those mma because we'll put them on the front of the paper some idiots got to be on the front because no one here is doing anything good sorry so he gets a transfer from the state pen it will allow him to
Starting point is 01:16:15 serve out his one-year sentence at home oh there so he's gonna have to serve it at home uh the judge said he was no different from anyone else and now he's letting him go home to do his thing so um more people pissed off in the newspaper quote another misguided judge extends a courtesy exit from prison to an unrepentant gangster gangster now he's a gangster that came out of left field he was a loco but he's not i don't think he's been ganging it for a while i think that that was while fucking the Bee Gees were on the charts, though. That was a long time ago. February 12th. He was dancing to fucking Dance Fever while he beat people up.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Those locos kick your balls. He told his first girlfriend they're more than a woman to him. So what do you want? That's a long time ago. So February 12, 2010, he's talking about his ring return will be on March 6th. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Yep, he's going to fight again. He's going to fight at the Evaristo Primero at Isleta Casino and Resort. It's in New Mexico. He said, I've wanted to fight for a long time. I've always been most comfortable in the ring. I've had a lot of problems, but when I get in the ring, I'll forget about all of them, and I'll do what I've always done best.
Starting point is 01:17:30 He's run away. Run away from my brain. That's what it is. If I can do this for the rest of time, it's going to be okay. He fights Jorge Alberto Reyes, and the guy's a 21 and 27 fighter coming into this fight. TKO in the fourth round for johnny so he's 57 5 and 2 at this point and uh yeah uh here um they said now though what was that date
Starting point is 01:17:54 march 6 2010 april 2nd he's back in jail oh my god yes um his wife said medicine and cortisone may have led to false positive tests for cocaine. You know how that goes. Hold. Listen, what is cortisone? What are the first two letters of cortisone? CO. What are the first two letters of cocaine, Jimmy?
Starting point is 01:18:17 That's right. Arrest my case. No more. The CO is the main ingredient in cortisone. They're both like a chemical start, the CO and cortisone. Why do you think it kills pain? Oh, it kills. That's what cocaine was doing.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Same thing. Oh, man, that's fucking hilarious. But the guy who, one of the state guys who runs it said that, well, she said he had an ear infection and got some shots and cortisone, which may have caused a false positive. The doctor said that I haven't heard of any medication that metabolizes into cocaine. That's the thing. And if it did, it would be off the market tomorrow. If it did, everyone would be putting cortisone and fucking ear medication together to make cocaine that's what they'd be doing he's smoking cocaine you my only friend ear medication oh my god yeah they'd be fucking shoot that ear medication into me man
Starting point is 01:19:17 come on man let's do it holy fucking shit april 8th 2010 he's released from jail jesus christ placed back into the county community custody program yeah fuck man he's such a mess may 6th 2010 he wants to fight again oh dear lord he's gonna fight again life june of 2010 he's like should i fight or should i not fight they're talking about it's going to be for a belt, too. Now, the Universal Boxing Organization's featherweight. I'd never heard of the U.B.O., by the way. That is not a real thing here. Not good. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:19:55 August 10th, August 2010. Here he finds his biological father. What? Yes. He's not dead. Apparently. Well, that's what it is that's what he said he said that he's known a guy named jerry padilla for a long time and members of the padilla family have gone to tappy his fights they all know each other and everything like that now he finds
Starting point is 01:20:17 out that this might be his father this guy tells him that um they say a paternity test this 43-year-old fighter announced was 99.997% positive that he was the product of a 1966 liaison between Padilla and Tapia's mother. He said, I hope and pray that we can be one happy family and make up for lost time. He is looking for anything. Grasping. Yeah, grasping a straw. Anything to be like, maybe then i won't do cocaine all night but this guy is definitely his dad well let's find out what he says he says he's holding up a test that says that's what it is and the padilla says i'm just so happy and surprised
Starting point is 01:20:57 we got the test and it was 99.97 probable it's a blessing he said now he's found his half brother he's so excited he fights again september 24 2010 jose alonso moreno and uh this fight tko fourth round he wins again okay so jesus christ this is fucking ridiculous now in the paper there's a bunch of people he's being sued by oh in the paper you see the actions actions, and it's Johnny Tapia, defendant. You're notified that the title insurance company as plaintiff has filed an action of second judicial district court of Bernalillo County. He owes people money, and it's in the paper because they're suing him. Insurance company's Holiday Inn.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah. Now it's in the paper that they filed for bankruptcy now, him and his wife. So they went from doing very well to not boxing and filing bankruptcy. So he said that he started the proceedings of bankruptcy when he went to prison. Shit is piled up day to day expenses legal expenses you name and it's all piled up. It's all fucked out. So he's trying to make it work. And they said Johnny wants to do one more fight to end it with Frankie. But if it's too much time passes with Johnny's age, and obviously it's not a smart choice for him to get back in the ring. He needs some money. So if his name can bring anything, June 4, 2011, he fights Mauricio Pastrana. And this guy, he wins a unanimous eight-round decision. Tapia goes down in the sixth round, gets back up, knocks Pastrana down in the eighth round.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Wow. Now he's 59-5-2, and he says he's retiring and he's done. So he beat the Pastrami? He beat the Pastrami, the big Pastrami, they called him. Oh, yeah. And he retires after that fight.
Starting point is 01:22:40 December 15, 2011, he says that he's three years clean and sober. Oh. He's doing great. He says he's three years clean and sober. Oh. He's doing great. He says he's doing interviews for people. He's doing amazing. He's been clean and sober. People are very excited for him.
Starting point is 01:22:53 He said he's done fighting. He's talking about getting into, you know, getting into birdwatching. Yeah, birdwatching and commentary also. He said that they were interviewing him, and he said, it's a pick-em fight to me, like me and Ramiro. And he's talking about this shit. So he's doing analysis and color shit. January 6, 2012, crashes his car, DWI suspected. Wow.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Yep, they said a depressant may be the cause, though. Might be that. So that would be, we'll talk about what that would be. Maybe. They said a suspicion of driving while intoxicated. There was a single vehicle collision all by himself at Paseo del Norte golf course around 4.20 a.m. That's not great. He was driving a black SUV and had crashed into a curb.
Starting point is 01:23:40 He was not injured. He displayed signs of impairment but did not smell of alcohol. into a curb he was not injured he displayed signs of impairment but did not smell of alcohol after failing a field sobriety test he was taken to the police substation where he took a blessed a breath sample had no alcohol in his body but they suspected he was impaired by a depressant a drug recognition expert was called in and a sample was taken of him here and so they're going to figure out he faces a DWI charge there for something. Who knows? We'll find out what it is in a minute, though.
Starting point is 01:24:07 February 13th, 2017. Here's Johnny Tapia saying that he doesn't know. He says, I don't know whether I'll be able to do all this commentary stuff because I have to hang around Vegas a lot, and that's not the best place to hang out. He said, I don't have a temptation because if I want drugs I can get it wherever I am I have a reputation I can just make a phone call but I have a beautiful wife with me nothing will happen if she's here you got to be able to do something if your wife's not around and not do
Starting point is 01:24:37 coke right this is fucking crazy he said it's a constant fear. He says he's had his heart stop five times and he's been in three comas because of coke. What the fuck, man? It's just not good, man. One of the people here says he suffers from bipolar disorder and it makes it very difficult. The highs are very high. The lows are very low. If he says I'm just going to run down to the store to get a Dr. Pepper, you can't help but think that you should go with him and wonder what's going to happen yeah he's had eight events yeah he's a fucking disaster uh he still says my mom's death kills me every day the torment threatens to it's all this whole thing they said then i
Starting point is 01:25:16 outlived her and after i said i wouldn't i just want to say good night mama and i want to hug my mama holy jesus christ that is fucking wild man and said, I couldn't get to the guy to kill him. That's why he's still, he said he's still in agony. Wow. Because he couldn't kill that guy. Yep, that's, wow. He's just tormenting himself all the time. All the time here.
Starting point is 01:25:38 He said that, fuck, man. He goes to, he's trying to tell everybody that he's sober and he's doing fine. And everybody says, no, he's not. And it's, you know, he gets,
Starting point is 01:25:49 he's getting very frustrated with people not believing him at this point. His wife says, as a wife, as a woman, I've learned there's good and bad in everyone. And you have to accept them. Everyone has their faults. I have them and I could not move on and I could move on and find somebody else.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And you know, they might not have an addiction. But how do I know they won't be a womanizer? They won't be an abuser. So why not try and get over the bad stuff and try to make it a good ending? She's chosen a drug addict as she's going. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I can put up with these. It's the lost. It's the invested lost fucking thing that people will keep dumping money into something, even though they've dumped too much in already because they've already dumped a bunch in. That's what she's talking about. It's the same thing. It's the invested lost fucking thing that people will keep dumping money into something even though they've dumped too much in already because they've already dumped a bunch in. That's what she's talking about. It's the same thing. That's the difference. If I find somebody else, they'll have flaws too. Yep.
Starting point is 01:26:33 May 27, 2012, Johnny Tapia found dead in his home. Oh, my. Yep. He found dead in his home here. They said they were called to his house at 7.45 p.m. and they said the death didn't appear to be suspicious. He's regarded as the big underdog and people liked him a lot.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And this is what he wrote in a book that he wrote here. My mother was murdered when she was 32. I didn't think I'd outlive her. I never thought I would make it past my own 32nd birthday. I didn't even ever want to make it past her 32nd birthday. After turning 31, I could feel that time was coming on. So, yep, they find out that he did not die from a drug overdose. He instead died from heart disease and high blood pressure, not from a drug overdose.
Starting point is 01:27:21 That's what Therese is telling people here. Brought on probably by drug overdose. That's what is, that's what Teresa is telling people here. Probably by drug abuse. Well, yeah, well, they said that the autopsy report showed that the death was accidental and a result of heart problems and the onset of hepatitis C. What?
Starting point is 01:27:36 He was shooting the shit or what? Well, they said this is, this is, he'd got a lot of, he got like jail tats and shit too. So they're saying it's either from jail or shooting or they have no fucking idea what's going on here. But she said that, quote, this shows he did not die of a drug overdose.
Starting point is 01:27:52 It doesn't make the pain go away, but I felt I needed to say that. Investigators did find a hydrocodone tablet, a painkiller, on the floor beside his body. Uh-oh. So he's not supposed to be taking that. They said there was no indications of overdose, but that he probably developed medical complications from all this shit. So yeah. Jesus. She said he was taking medication for his bipolar disorder and his high blood pressure,
Starting point is 01:28:17 but apparently it wasn't hydrocodone. So there's going to be a feature film about her life she said in progress oh so quickly in 12 yeah i feel bad he's dead i feel bad for everyone but not nearly as bad as i feel for johnny tapia senior ehs specialist at kinder morton morgan university of south carolina columbia there's him uh professional engineer, this person is. Johnny Tapia, boutique manager at Tudor Boutique Mall at Millennia in Orlando. Okay. And what is that? The Watches of Switzerland group.
Starting point is 01:28:53 All right. Johnny Tapia, driver at Wise Foods. I love their chips, man. Good shit. In Ossining, New York. You motherfucker. Bring me some chips, Johnny. Fucking love those goddamn things.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I love those. Their Funyuns are the best. Their onion things. chips, Johnny. Fucking love those goddamn things. I love those. Their Funyuns are the best. Their onion things. Oh, man. Johnny Tapia, leadership and financial coach in San Antonio, Texas. Hi, my name is Johnny Tapia. Happy to connect with you, he says. I don't like cocaine.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I don't like cocaine. January 4th, 2014, Teresa Tapia marries. This is a fucking trip, okay, marries Jeffrey Padilla, who is his father's son. This is Johnny's half-brother. She married the brother? She married Johnny's half-brother. Wow. This is fucking bonkers.
Starting point is 01:29:42 The one that he just found out was his half-brother. That is. Why would she do that? She said... She just met him, right? A time came when we felt the marriage between myself and Jeffrey Padilla would be the best for the children, for a continuation of their sense of family. What is this, Deadwood? This is like fucking...
Starting point is 01:29:58 You want an uncle-daddy in the house? What are we talking about? This is what you would do if your brother died in the Civil War. Right. You would marry the widow and take care of the kids because they lived on a fucking farm and they needed somebody to plow the field. That's what you do. This is different.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Or you live in fucking Alabama and it's just today. No shit. Or it's now and it's on purpose. March 26, 2014, they end their four-month marriage. Good. Yeah. She says she wishes to be Johnny's widow forever that's what she wants
Starting point is 01:30:28 to be and also he was kind of a dick she said I was unprepared and clueless for how to adapt to someone new yeah I also didn't realize that was gonna be real fucking weird for my family yeah no shit so he said Teresa and I have decided to end our marriage after 14 years
Starting point is 01:30:46 of being incarcerated i now realize it was too early this guy just gotten out of prison for 14 years i realized it was too early to jump into a marriage situation take note love after lock up people yeah she liked my dick i liked her tits and that wasn't gonna last no shit um then later on jesus christ in a later article theresa claims that this dude beat her up too oh okay so yeah uh december 1st 2016 judge orders dna test to determine paternity of the late boxer tapia okay he still padilla saying i'm the father i had this test and all that but the judge ruled that he must undergo a blood test to prove his claim because now he wants something from the estate. Oh, he wants money. So, yes.
Starting point is 01:31:30 March 3rd, 2017, DNA tests reveals that Padilla is not his father, actually. They should have done it on Maury. God damn it. They must have fucking just worked up a fake DNA test and fooled the guy with it. That's fucked up, man. Yep. They said that this rules conclusively. Not the father.
Starting point is 01:31:51 State district judge had ordered it. This was a big deal. Padilla said that he couldn't comment until the results were verified. He said this matter is far from over. That makes that a guy that married her an even big even bigger scumbag i think that's it's fucking crazy yeah so um now september 22nd 2017 the padilla guy who claimed to be his father has to pay out thousands for fraud wow yeah breach of contract attorney fees the judge came down hard on him for the for faking a dna report in 2010 calling him out for letting Johnny Tapia go to his grave
Starting point is 01:32:26 thinking that he was his dad. He found his father. Wow. Padilla wasn't the first to claim he was Tapia's father, and so when Tapia met Padilla, he demanded a DNA test, and a few weeks later it came back positive, but Teresa questioned the results from the start. She said, they were just kind of messing around with the swabs with each other, and I said, you cannot use the swabs with each other.
Starting point is 01:32:46 You're tainting everything. Yeah, you can't use the same swabs. Yeah, just put it in. It's all the same. Wow. I mean, father, it's the same slobber. He said, he would say, you know, the only time he's around is if there's media. And if I ask him anything, he can't come over just to hang out with me.
Starting point is 01:33:03 But if I tell him there's media or that there's a place to go or to a fight then he's right there front and center yeah oh my god she said Teresa said it wasn't a surprise or a shock it was more of a confirmation of what we all believed oh man October 29 2019 very quickly Johnny Tappy
Starting point is 01:33:20 is gravesite vandalized and then his son is shot in a road road rage incident on the same day. What? The same fucking day. Had nothing to do with each other? Totally nothing to do with each other. And the son was in the National Guard and was getting ready for active duty,
Starting point is 01:33:37 but now the doctor said the bullet's too close to his femoral artery to remove, so he can't do that. They said he's stable, he's out of the hospital but this is probably going to end his military career we just don't know he said the pictures were found i guess there was the vandalizing was happening they said there was burned glass and candles were smashed i guess they ripped up all the shit that was usually there they come and leave stuff for johnny i found letters rosaries pictures people write me from all over the world, and this is a place they come to see him. One of the pictures damaged was of
Starting point is 01:34:08 his mother there that was on the grave, and they said, Johnny, his whole life lived for others. His mom, for me, for children. He didn't really care what you did to him, but he always cared about the people he loved. So, yes. He said that Tapia used to remind
Starting point is 01:34:24 everybody that he'd been born on Friday the 13th and then say, does that make me lucky or unlucky? Well, it doesn't make a difference. They said at the end of his life, he is allegedly had a net worth of three million dollars, which I don't see how that's possible. Fuck. He had earned ten million dollars over his career. So I don't know how he would have no way left. He's a fucking drug addict. He went through so much of that. Well, if he earned 10, he paid six in taxes, and he paid his manager another fucking at least two.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Well, he probably paid four in taxes, right? Oh, did I say six? I meant he kept six and he paid four. That's what I was thinking. He paid four, then he had six, because then I was doing the math from six. And then he paid his manager two, so then he had six because then i was doing the math from six and then he paid his manager two so then he had four and you tell me he has three left from every dime he ever made being a fucking coke head for decades i don't think so so there you go that's johnny tappy everybody holy shit that is he ends with a bang hey you see this okay, I loved this episode, two episodes total here.
Starting point is 01:35:25 I loved this because, first of all, we rarely get people where there is action both before they're born and after they're dead. Usually our stories start with a birth and end with it, sometimes with a death, sometimes with he's still out there, whatever. But if it's a dead guy, start with a birth, end with a death. there whatever but if it's a dead guy start with a birth end with a death this starts with murder in the womb and ends with his his wife married his fucking brother and that didn't work out and the guy he thought his dad actually wasn't his dad what was just some fucking scamming asshole who completely lied to him and fabricated dna tests holy shit incredible johnny gives from beyond the grave this guy yeah you everyone out there respect for show some respect for johnny tappy as a crime and sports fan for giving us both pre-birth
Starting point is 01:36:13 both in utero craziness and fucking post-postumous craziness at the same time i can't i can't stress enough confirmed brain damage before. Before he even took a punch to the head. And they allowed him to fight. Yep. He got in there and said, yeah, I think getting punched in the head a lot should work for me. I got hit in the head once before, enjoyed it a lot. I think I'll do this again.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Yeah. What the fuck is he thinking? So there you go, everybody. That's Johnny Tapia. He got his due here with the two-parter. And that would have been a three-and-a-half-hour episode. So we're trying to— It's ridiculous. It's a little too much.
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Starting point is 01:38:27 um we should on a college campus well oh yeah a star he's a star yeah we'll talk all about that and it's happened more than once and carl seems to uh and then also what he did with his son was shitty too he's just a not a good guy we'll talk He's not. He's a guy who made a reputation for himself as this great guy, and he's just not a great guy. Yeah, not a good combination. So we'll talk about that. Then for Small Town Murder, we're going to talk about two of the craziest murders ever. Yeah. These are two murders that have, we'll call it highlights, high spots in them where you go, holy shit, what the fuck is that about?
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Starting point is 01:39:59 your stupid opinions because we have a date for that coming up very soon. But never mind all of that, Jimmy. I need the list of the people who would never ever ever ever claim to be our fathers and approach us with a false dna test and then finding out after we're dead that you weren't actually our father none of these people would do that to us give me these names of these wonderful people right fucking now this week's executive producers are jeanette bell and the delta survivor club uh she was on the plane with us from uh denver thank you good to meet you terrific to meet you and your family sat on a hot tarmac a lot of fun it'll bond you yes talena jensen who hung out with my family
Starting point is 01:40:40 in denver that was very nice to say at the brutal poodle she said uh so she hung out with a brutal poodle uh and she said some very nice things about my family that was very nice of you to say. At the Brutal Poodle, she said. She hung out at the Brutal Poodle and she said some very nice things about my family. That was very sweet of you. Thank you, Talena. Also, Father Biff, thank you very much for being a part of this, Father Biff. Thank you. Whatever that means. I need a father. I picture him with a
Starting point is 01:40:59 flat top and a blonde flat top and a collar. And a very large man. Oh, obviously, yeah. Other producers this week are Corporal Carl Kirshner, Liz Vasquez, Peyton Meadows, exotic Adrian Street, and Miss Linda. Yeah, it's a wrestler. Yeah, he was a very flamboyant play to, you know, I'm a lady character, but he was a badass. I'm a lady character, but he was a badass.
Starting point is 01:41:32 And a donation on behalf of the GoFundMe account to get Jimmy a genuine, authentic Australian shepherd hat. I kind of want to see one of those. Small Town Murder Turkeys, Cindy Wilkins. See you in Chicago, Cindy. See you there, turkeys. Janice Hill, James. Are you really scared to fly? Fuck yes. We're both afraid to fly.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah, neither of us are. It's absurd. There's no reason we should be doing it. It's dumb. We have to do it, is the thing. Evan Pease, or Peace, maybe. Kirstie, Brozvic, Flat Yord. Flat Yord?
Starting point is 01:42:00 Wow. It's Flat Yord. That is some Northern. I don't know. It's very whatever. You're Northern up there. You go in hot tubs when it's freezing out. Right. You know that. That's Flat Yard. That is a northern. I don't know. It's very whatever. You're northern up there. You go in hot tubs when it's freezing out. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:08 You know that. That's what you do. Kaylee Wolf, Abivi, I think. Heather Sutherland, Yvonne would know the last name. Wesley would know the last name. Russ Bellow, maybe. I don't know. Michael Chulo.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Kulo? Could be Kulo. Oh, boy. Dre would know the last name. Ice Pick 420. Michelle Nicole. Kalia? Kalia Fisher? Kala. K, boy. Dre with no last name. Ice pick 420. Michelle Nicole. Kalia. Kalia Fisher.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Kala. Kala Fisher. Justin Brown. Harley Wilson. Nicole Serrata. Will Price. Tracy Hollingsworth. Hey, would you blow me?
Starting point is 01:42:35 Probably not. Steven Wysunski. Wynzuski. All right. Amy Heiler. Jizwa. Oh, Jizya Shorts, James. Oh, perfect.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Sam McGeechie. Nikki Smalls. Sasha Borlaug. Sandy Finch. Nicole Heuat. James Witzman. What is that? No, that's a real person's name. Sandy Kidd. Brandy Harrison. Ashley Matthews. Lisa Cochran. Thank you, Lisa. Cody Jackson. Frank Winsberg. name sandy kid uh brandy harrison ashley matthews lisa cochran thank you lisa uh cody jackson frank win uh winchburg winberg uh cassandra sterling bryce smith brendan wick uh frazier mcfarland jules with no last name jenny oh just jess elaine imlach uh yeah nora meister mikhail mikhail chambers mikhaila maybe i don't know ethan with no last name letter off there i don't know maybe Oh, yeah. Nora Meister. Mikhail Chambers. Mikaela, maybe. I don't know. Ethan would know last name.
Starting point is 01:43:26 You'll leave a letter off there. Maybe. That's possible also. L, J, and M. This show is brought to you by the letters L, J, and M. Christina Murphy. Nikki Yarborough. Katie.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Katie Thomas. Diane Patchy. Patch. All right. Sam Olson. Brenda White. Tegan would know last name. Diane Patchy. Patchy. Patch. All right. Sam Olson. Brenda White. Tegan with no last name.
Starting point is 01:43:48 Thomas Oaks. Sarah Gansheimer. Gansheimer. All right. Jessa with no last name. Lisa. Lysa. Bill You.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Lisa probably. L-E-I-S-A? More than that. I've never seen that. L-E-I-S-A? That's got to be. It's got to be Lisa, right? Lisa.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Yeah. Lisa. Abby Northrup uh noelle butler and cole kohler 600 merrick anderson emily with no last name sean ryan lisa galley toasty jujube uh spooky spooky cinema tay boutman boat boutman uh tyrell with no last name. Running Mermaid. Sherry Kane. Jenny Porter. Julie Cussin. Julie's Cussin. I'm telling. Elise Marie. Sandra Carroll. Kathy McGrath. Michaela Preston. Joshua Dickison. Melissa Cherokee Nation, and she's a baby. Or Cherokee Nation baby. Who knows? Yeah. Sarah Quiglish. We have no way of knowing anything.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Quiglish. Monica Kothi, I don't know. Ross Ferguson. Venera with no last name. Aaliyah with no last name. Josh Clark. Brooke Proctor. Carrie Maddox. Sarah Torno. Eddie Weinmiller,
Starting point is 01:45:16 Hypnotic with no last name, Blaze Keller, Robert Hersner, Bite Me or Not, Ben with no last name, Elizabeth Anderson, Rainey Loper, Sheila W., Chase Applegate, Krista Hill, Heather Dawson, Holly Deutsch, Kimber Liu, Trevor W., Lindsay Everett, Christy with no last name, Angelina Keglovich. Holy hell. Those are – what's Keglovich? What is that? Is that Russian? What is that?
Starting point is 01:45:42 It could be. It's Eastern European of some kind. Who knows? Chad Dolby, Lewis Fragosa. Eastern European It could be. It's Eastern European of some kind. Who knows? Chad Dolby. Eastern European Kegel. It's very aggressive. You go, when you do it every time. All day.
Starting point is 01:45:53 When you Kegel so hard, you shit. That's what that is. It's like the tennis players that are Eastern European. They, that's what you do every time you Kegel. Chad Dolby. Louis Frigozo. Adam Bailey.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Debbie Mars. Ashley Fitzner. Fitzner. Hardly know her. Aaron McIntyre. McIntyre. Hey, there you go. Nolan McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:46:19 McCarty. Damn it. Jesse. Jesse Pusatero. Pusatero. All right. Jesse the Pusatero. Ains. Jesse the Pusatero. Ainsley to the W.
Starting point is 01:46:28 T-turn 81. Irish Eyes. Gwen Gates. Kevin Belt. Is it Belt? Yeah, it is. Joey Meade. Trevor McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Gretchen Skoblich. Skoblich. More Venus. All right. Phil McCracken. Julie with no last name. Sarah Fury. Ryan with no last name. S.J. All right. Uh, Phil, Phil McCracken, Julie would know last name, Sarah Fury. Ryan would know last name,
Starting point is 01:46:47 SJ, Dave on Dave, Dave, Davin, Devon, Lessel, young, uh,
Starting point is 01:46:53 Penny Laverty, Brian McQuillan, crispy Lou, crystal Nelson, Isabella Pirellas, Misty McElroy, Mick McElroy. Hey,
Starting point is 01:47:11 Josephine would know last name, Shayney Gage, Eliza Beth, Keel Flowers Shorty 2252, Mark Adam Jitz. Andrea Vincent. Michael Johnson. Walden Floyd Sable. Amy. They're fucking hard this week. Amy Brugeski. David Bullins.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Alex. With no last name. My hero. Colin Hendricks. Nick Lloyd. Daniel McDonald. Doug Engstrand. Vanessa Sherry.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Heather Seidel. Jarrett Bender. Jarrett Bender, Morgan Schneider, Eddie Hernandez, Deborah Stonehocker, Carrie Hurst, Michael Votay, Father Biff, Jamie Conner, Tierney Skoblich, Jason Skinner, Olivia with no last name, Joanna Marenke, Luther, Christy Gallagher, Martha Morrison, Kelly Carlson, Alex Heiler, Hiller maybe, Nikki Hunt, Scarlett O'Hare, that's fun, Jessica Walters, Amanda Murdoch, Claire Ann Eilert, Ellard, fuck, Catherine Penner, Destiny Mink. Lisa with no last name. Emma Bernhoft. Douglas Hinkle. TG Pink. Oh, Pixie Dark. Not Pink Dark. Drew Hayes. Michael Gerard. Joe Edwards.
Starting point is 01:48:36 LMJ 987. Beans with no last name. Bailey Graham Bowling. Julie McAllister. Allison Reed. Tracy Mitchell. Hey, Tracy. Nice to see you again.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Marcy B., Matthew Rimmer. All right. Alan Young. Liz with no last name. Jimmy Hustle. That's what I should have picked my stage name to be. I like that one. I like that one a lot.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Jimmy Hustle. You're too white to have a stage name like that, though. I want Jimmy Hustle and Wu-Tang shirts every day. They call you up and people go, that's not what I expected at all. Who's that guy? Wow, you sure? I picked the bald, but not that.
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