Crime in Sports - #378 - Olympian, Minister, Kid Toucher - Doug Northway

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

This week, we look at a man, who appeared to have it all together. An Olympic medalist, who went on to somehow make some money in professional swimming. Once his career was over, he moved on ...to teaching kids, enjoying his family, and being a minister. The problem is, he was also doing a VERY terrible thing, right in his own neighborhood. What would cause his family to flee to New Zealand, to not be mentioned with him? Something awful.Be a national hero, before your senior year of high school, build a life as an upstanding citizen, and trusted community member, then throw it all away, by doing one of the most despicable things ever with Doug Northway!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:34 you will get a shout out at the end of the show as well. Oh, yes. Jimmy will mispronounce your name terribly. Today he may cough over it because he's ill as well. Oh, yeah. It's possible. First, I was sick for two weeks and now you get to be sick. Probably for two weeks probably for two weeks so this is this is perfect we're really passing it around here that said let's get into this with our asshole of the week yeah and boy is he an asshole let's do this he's a real like i said not our normal guy crime and
Starting point is 00:05:01 sports is usually sports is like a real machismo kind of flashy kind of, you know, chest out kind of a thing. You know what I mean? I'm tough. This is not that. This guy is really a more insidious, dangerous asshole because he really blends in to the woodwork. You know what I mean? You don't see this guy coming from a mile away. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:23 You don't see this guy coming from a mile away. He's not 6'5 with his chest out with a tattoo of the $5 bill on his neck like we've seen before where you go, okay, that's interesting. This guy is somebody that just kind of goes to your – he's at your kid's school. He goes to your church, and he just blends right in, and you don't even notice him, and it's terrifying. Douglas Dale Northway. Northway, one word doug northway doug northway you might know him because he's an arizona guy so you may have heard oh really he's kind of uh up until what happened happened he was a real like arizona legend because he's an olympic medalist and everything else and you know arizona born and raised here or not born but raised uh he's
Starting point is 00:06:05 born actually in ontario california there so yeah he's born april 28th 1955 and i love by the way on his wikipedia this just cracks me up it says douglas dale northway nicknames uh-huh doug dd oh Doug. Dee Dee? Oh. Doug. Oh. Yeah. Wow. In quotations, too. Doug. Like, oh, that Doug. Okay, I get it. He's a swimmer, like we said.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. He does the freestyle. Oh. I don't know what the difference is between that or anything else. I have no swimming knowledge. Freestyle is just where you're on your chest and you're just swimming like that. You know what I'm talking about? Is it? It's just the normal way of swimming.
Starting point is 00:06:44 That's freestyle. Well, freestyle, it's free. You can do whatever you want. I was just going to say, freestyle seems like you could do anything. You can do anything. Backstroke, you could flip over in the water. You can do anything you want. But typically, people swim fastest just doing that normal swim.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah. When you see people trying to swim the English Channel, that's what they're doing. So it seems like that's probably the best course of action. I'm seeing breaststroke in the fucking english channel because they're slow as shit that way that's a yeah much slower very smooth though yeah very smooth that way that little that that bob is real nice otherwise there's water flying everywhere everything's a mess there's two splashes one in the front one in the back so two splashes, one in the front, one in the back. So many splashes going on. Fuck, it's so busy. Kicking, splashing.
Starting point is 00:07:26 What's happening here? How are you doing this? So, yeah, he's a men's swimmer. He's an Olympian, as we'll talk about. Also a Pan American Games guy. So, okay. And this wasn't easy to find for Ian here, but he dug it out. And I got to give him a lot of credit for this.
Starting point is 00:07:41 His parents are Harold and Ralph Northway. Or, I'm sorry, Harold Ralph Northway is his dad. Mr. and Mrs. Harold Ralph Northway. His mom's name is Harold, is actually what it is. Yeah. Mom, Harold, Dad, Ralph. Dad, Ralph. Or the other way around.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah. His sister is Rosemary Joanne Northway. And we'll talk about her because she's all in the paper when he grows up. So he's got... Oh? Oh, yeah. His sister's, like, local famous in tucson big oh big tucson uh fame here as a little girl he's got at least one brother that we know of but don't know much more about him so okay there's a from
Starting point is 00:08:18 the tucson citizen newspaper yeah july 25th 1960 so doug's a little boy here was he five at that point yeah five he's five okay uh it says teen cook rosemary creates a tasty soup there was nothing happening in tucson yeah if a teen made a soup and it made the paper a kid made soup hold on let me get my pad and pen here. Wait a minute, let me get my recorder. We gotta capture this for posterity. This is really... Yeah. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Cronkite is going to be so impressed. Oh my God, yeah. Edward R. Murrow is gonna be reporting on this. Never mind anything else that's going on. We got a presidential election this year, Kennedy-Nixon. It's all garbage. A kid making soup.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Shit. Put it aside. This kid made soup. I want to talk about it. A kid in Tucson, Shirley Kurtz, wrote this. A very bored woman named Shirley Kurtz is going around looking for kids that can make soup. It says, hmm, what sounds better than a bowl of homemade vegetable soup? It's just veggie soup. Another bowl of homemade vegetable soup? It's just veggie soup.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Another bowl of homemade vegetable soup, of course. Oh, two minestrones. Come on now. Man, by way of the grapevine, it is heard that Rosemary Northway stirs up a soup that makes everyone ask for more and more. Folks are talking about it talking they're talking about well how bored are people that there's a grapevine that talks about a child's soup what is happening tucson children's culinary talents are oh man grapevine across town i'm gonna say this thank fuck for meth because at least tucson has an identity now and something to think about
Starting point is 00:10:06 something to think about because this is ridiculous meth and the chalupa oh my god yeah rosemary likes to cook especially pastries why are we talking about her soup and often often prepares dinner for her family she graduated from t Tucson High this June and will enter the University of Arizona in the fall. Unless she's opening a restaurant, why is this in the paper? Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? During her, and you might be asking who gives a shit, but I think this is funny.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It's fascinating. This is hilarious. During her high school days, she didn't take any home economic courses, but, quote, learned about cooking from mom. Oh, boy. She started cooking around nine, a cake being the first thing she ever baked. And even now, she never bakes cakes from a mix. She calls that cheating. Oh, she does it homemade, huh?
Starting point is 00:11:00 Homemade, yeah. So they live at 1227 North Santa Rita. I don't know if that still exists, Tucson people, but I don't know. My older brother's always older brothers. So got to have more than one brother because Doug is younger than her if she graduated in 1960. So then her older brothers means seems like Doug is. Two olders, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Doug's a baby in the noops. That's what I mean. Doug's only five. His sister's 18. And his brothers are older than that. Right. Dad fucked up. The baby of the family here, which I don't know if that is going to tie into his whole weirdness.
Starting point is 00:11:35 But my older brothers always ate what I cooked, though most of the time they didn't say anything. All right. So when Rosemary's girlfriends gather at her house for an old-fashioned hen party what is that when you get a bunch of chicks together it's just yeah they gab they do each other's makeup they fucking whatever hen party yeah that's what they used to call it like and a guy's guy's doing it was a stag party that was oh they'd show like you'd watch like a film strip of a girl in like weird burlesque clothes that's what porn was back then you know hen party with things on her nipples hen party like uh in goodfellas what they were all doing yeah when they were putting makeup
Starting point is 00:12:17 on each other and shit whatever was going on in rizzo's bedroom in greece talking talking tupperware yeah piercing each other's ears. Yeah, spraying perfume on letters to fucking guys in the war. Guys in Korea. Yeah. To Marines in Korea. She delights in preparing one of her special dishes for them. Vegetable soup. Here's the recipe, everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Get your pens and papers ready here. Veggie stock. Two pounds chuck roast. Didn't expect that, did you? So much for vegging. Half head of small cabbage, eight carrots, two large canned stewed tomatoes, six to eight small potatoes, one large onion. Then cut the meat into cubes and cut away most of the fat. Brown the meat also.
Starting point is 00:13:05 There's way more meat than vegetables in this from what I just read. Yeah. Yeah, make 16 servings. So there you go. Right below that, if you've eaten too much soup and you need to lose some weight, get yourself some AIDS. Hell yeah. Yeah. AYDS was a weight loss supplement for 30 years or something until the 80s when you didn't want to say lose weight with aids
Starting point is 00:13:27 it says lose weight without dieting take aids as i do says alexis smith wow hilarious about every 15 minutes 15 minutes before a meal i enjoy one or two delicious AIDS candies. AIDS candies. That is phenomenal. Terrible. Vitamin and mineral candy. So, yeah, Rosemary gets married in 1963. So that happens. The newspaper, Jesus Christ, in a princess gown of silk organza over taffeta.
Starting point is 00:14:03 They love her. Rosemary Joanne Northway became the bride of Chandler Smith cheek this afternoon. Like it's a whole, they really do love her. They didn't talk about her soup in that one at all, but Doug was the ring bearer in the ceremony. So there we go.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Cause what is he ate at this point? Yeah. Um, he went to Doug was a high school student, uh, I guess in Saguaro, Arizona, which isn't that outside of Phoenix, right by Apache Junction? It should be, yeah. Wouldn't we do a small-town murder over there? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:35 It's over there by that. That was Florence. So, yeah, there's another one, though, right? Is it further over near Globe in Miami? It's like east of Apache Junction over there, like southeast. Like Gold Canyon? I thought so. like southeast canyon i i thought so because yeah i thought so where the where the renfrew's at i guess yeah i don't even know i think it's farther out than that even really i think so i could be completely wrong here but you might but
Starting point is 00:14:59 you might be nailing it might have it right might have a complete how there's probably 12 places in arizona called suwarrow i would have yeah i mean i could certainly google it but i i don't want my brain to know that information yeah you know what let's keep this let's keep it a mystery let's keep it a mystery there we'll all be happy we didn't know it yeah so i guess in high school i assume he came up swimming a lot if he ends up being an Olympic swimmer. I don't think he took to the water at 15 and was like, yeah, this is for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he dropped his 1,500-meter time. He does, like, the long one, the 1,500-meter.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Wow. Yeah, which the ones that you watch on TV that get the pub are, like, 200 and 400 meters. Right. Because how long can you watch people swim for, realistically, you know? And across an Olympic, i believe it's 50 uh meters to the to the other side that's just back and forth 30 times that's crazy fuck that's far that's too much yeah that's too for 1500 meters it gets it's just a an endurance race at that point i throw a shark in the water make it entertaining because that's too much
Starting point is 00:16:01 that's nearly a mile right jesus christ that's 4500 feet that's yeah that's nearly a mile nearly a mile you're swimming so fuck but during high school he dropped in 1971 there's the national championships and then while still in high school at 17 he's doing the u.s olympic trials wow so he's really you know a prodigy yeah yeah but you've got to do that because you want to be the at 18 you'd like to be or 18 or 20 depending on when you when your age falls you want to be in your very first olympics around 18 or 20 that's what uh high school with yeah yeah she did it she was in she was in australia i believe uh sy. Sydney when I was 17. 96?
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's Atlanta. No, next one. The next one. 2000 then, huh? 2000. Yeah, you weren't 17, though. No, I guess not. But around the late teens.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I mean, same show. Unless, well, it was Summer Olympics. So, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. 98? I don't fucking know. Sydney was around there though i think
Starting point is 00:17:06 when was sydney yeah it was 2000 wasn't it we're not olympic historians by the way no we are not in case people are looking to us for olympic history and knowledge of that we don't have it unless we covered it in the show we don't fucking know anything and even if we have we probably forgot it so we apologize for sucking were the summer games in in atlanta in 96 that was 96 for sure yeah then it was definitely 2000 because we were just there last month i was 19 we were staying right by the park yeah yeah yeah that's right 90 i remember seeing 96 whatever the dedication or whatever the fuck it was so between 71 and 72 between the national championships in
Starting point is 00:17:46 the u.s olympic trials he dropped his 1500 meter time by 45 seconds well which that's that's way fast it seems like a lot yeah it's almost a minute i mean that's pretty good so that's not bad now august 7th 1972 he wins an olympic berth here. He wins a spot on the Olympic team by finishing second behind Rick DeMont, who broke the world record in the 1500 meter freestyle. He did as well
Starting point is 00:18:16 as he could without breaking a world record. Honestly. He qualified for the finals, was less than six-tenths of a second off the old world record. Northway was. So he almost broke that, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:28 If the other guy just didn't exist, he'd be that close to the world record. Wow. The other guy exists, unfortunately. The guy who set the world record is a 16-year-old. 16. Can you imagine? Holy shit. That is wild.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You worked your ass off your whole life. You're 24, and a 16-year-old beat you. He's just got to be tall, right? Well, it's core strength. You have to have a weird long torso, too, it seems like. Length and core, that's how it does it. Michael Phelps is like a 28-length gene when he's 6'7 or some shit. He's all torso, like a dolphin.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And that douche guy that swam with him too, Lochte? Lochte, yeah. We'll do an episode about him one day. He's a douchebag. He's a tool. If it weren't for Michael Phelps, Lochte would be a fucking hero. Yeah. And unfortunately, Michael Phelps ruined his life.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That's what- By being Michael fucking Phelps. By setting that's what by being michael fucking phelps by being setting all the world records yeah so and everything and for yeah that's that's tough that's a tough one yeah i don't know how you oh boy they got that guy in front of you it's like wow yeah you know well i was just born uh at the wrong time yeah it's like those baseball players who played in the minors for 15 years behind some perennial all-star because there was only a few teams back then and that's all they could do. Yeah. So it's kind of the same type of shit no matter how good you are.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You're not as good as the best guy. So fuck you. So Northway is a senior next year at Saguaro High, by the way. Oh. Next year. Is that Saguaro High? Saguaro High. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So maybe. I wonder if that's the one in Scottsdale. That might be in Tucson, too. Oh, he's such a good swimmer, he might be going to a high school that has a particularly good swimming program, I would assume, right? Right. If you're that good, that's what you do. I would imagine the one in Scottsdale has a fucking great swimming program. Probably a good pool.
Starting point is 00:20:21 In Tucson, they take you to the canal. Right, on a lake. And they're like, well, they just try to sift out the bum shit from there. Get the shopping carts out. Yeah. All right, guys, get in there. It's pretty shallow today. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You're swimming. You're not going underwater. Don't worry about it. I mean, you're not going underwater. Don't worry about it. So the former world record holder, John Kinsella, finished sixth in the finals and will miss the Olympics. Only the top three finishers go to Munich here. Oh, Munich. Munich, which, by the way, we'll talk a bunch about the Munich Olympics because he's in them.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But we did not do this on purpose. The timing of the Munich Olympics and what's going on right now and all that this was planned for a month this show so it just happened to be sorry it's so strange man so um northway's time is the fourth fastest time ever recorded in the world really in the world that is fucking impressive yeah now the 72 olympics were the second summer olympics to be held in germany after the 36 games which were you know kind of a bit of an issue there um which was under hitler obviously and then the most recent olympics to be held in the country of you guys that was a long time they still I don't think they've had another one since then. Is Berlin been back since. No.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I don't think so. I guess the West German government had been trying to have the Munich Olympics present presented democratic and optimistic Germany to the world like oh it's not all East German behind the wall type of shit. Their motto was the cheerful games. Oh the cheerful games which is the opposite of what happened obviously it's the opposite of germany we've had that too cheerful we are cheerful and they're just staring at you okay i don't think i've seen many smiles out of germans no they're
Starting point is 00:22:21 that's that's the stereotype is they're a bit of a serious people stone-faced people they're a bit of a serious people they've i they had a lot to live down though i think is what it is that's the problem when you've when you fuck the world up twice in a century you really gotta it's wild you gotta kind of really wild yeah you can keep your shit together mind your piece of my culpa Mya culpa for quite some time. Japan still does that. That's what I mean. It's still like, hey, look, we fucked up, okay?
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Starting point is 00:23:13 We did that. Yeah, your CD skipped, you know, 10% less because of us. Only 10%, though. So, the logo of the games was a blue solar logo called the Bright Sun. And the hostesses, they had hostesses at the Olympics, wore sky blue. Oh, Jesus. What is this? Dirndls?
Starting point is 00:23:36 What is that? As a promotion of the Bavarian cultural heritage. Some traditional Bavarian dress, I assume, here. And the Olympic mascot was a Datsun named Waldi. Or Waldi, probably, if it's German. A Datsun? A Datsun. Like a car?
Starting point is 00:23:51 No, a dog. Datsun. Oh, Datsun. Datsun. Yeah, they had a 280Z. Here it is, everybody. Here's our mascot. A 280Z.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Enjoy. Isn't it nice? Got you a B210. A 280Z. Enjoy. Isn't it nice? Got you a B210. There you go, everybody. This was the first officially named Olympic mascot. Okay. And it was a live dog. I don't know if it was a live dog or a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I guess so. Why not? Why wouldn't you have a live dog? Yeah, might as well. Cartoon dog. You just carry it's a toxin you carry it around anywhere you want they're very small some of them are mean as shit though oh yeah they're barky they're barky little bastards they bite they're cute too
Starting point is 00:24:33 but they're barky yeah yeah yeah uh september 3rd 1972 is when northway makes his most triumphant trip to a pool here and he wins the bronze medal. Really? Yes. He won the, which you go, oh, Christ, he's in some weird obscure swimming event winning a bronze medal. Who cares? But I don't have a fucking bronze medal. Third in the world, man.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I haven't won shit ever at doing anything. So the defending Olympic champion, Mike Burton of Sacramento, swam another world record. Jesus, they're falling like crazy here. And won the gold medal in the most, they called it the most grueling swimming event of the games. The 1500 meter freestyle. They do this in less than 16 minutes, they do this. Wow. I can barely run a mile in 16 minutes.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Can you imagine swimming one like that? How tired would you that? Holy shit. I would probably drown in the middle of that, I would assume. I might quit. I might just get to the side of the pool and be like, I can't go another... Not one more time. I can't do it. You'd have like the Lithuanian guy would have been pulling me out of the pool there.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah. Saving me. Yeah, saving my life by some Belgian and a Lithuanian on the other side. Yeah, saving my life by some Belgian and a Lithuanian on the other side. Graham Windat of Australia took the silver, and Doug Northway got the bronze. Minutes before the start year old who set the record was scratched by Olympic officials
Starting point is 00:26:07 due to a positive result from a doping test but he didn't he was from it was the medicine for his inhaler it was a
Starting point is 00:26:16 he has an asthma inhaler he has a steroid in it yeah there's an asthma inhaler so he has to take it and they said you can't they fucking scratched him
Starting point is 00:26:23 from the Olympics he wasn't allowed wow he wasn't allowed it's fucking crazy this guy would have gotten a fourth probably if shit that's yeah it's it's pretty crazy this is the olympics where mark spitz won everything he became very famous and everything because he won the 100 and the 200 meter which are the only ones people watch because they're quick they're fast you know the fuck's sitting for 16 minutes to watch an event yeah those the 100 meter is 51 seconds in and out less than a minute
Starting point is 00:26:51 that's what i'm talking about let's go 200 meter minute or a minute 52 seconds so yeah there you go i'll watch that doug northway 16 minutes and nine seconds. Jesus God. Just straight swimming. So Rick DeMont, like we said, he, I guess, he did participate in the 400 meter and won the gold medal before having it taken away. Oh. Because then they took it away when he tried to do the 1500 meter. They scratched him, wouldn't let him, and took away his gold. Got it. from the other one um because it was after the race the ephedrine was in his asthma medication uh marox which i'm
Starting point is 00:27:32 sure i don't know if he knew what the fuck was an asthma medication who the fuck would even check it's asthma medication yeah it's it's really stupid here so he wasn't allowed to participate in anything else he had properly declared his asthma medications on his medical disclosure forms. Yeah. But the U.S. Olympic Committee had not cleared them with the IOC's medical committee. So it wasn't even his fault. Got it. The Olympic Committee didn't clear it with the world police of this shit.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So the U.S.ic committee has recognized his gold medal performance but uh only the ioc has the power to restore its medal and it still has not done that even though even as late as 2020 there was a campaign to do so wow so this guy for 50 years has gotten kind of fucked out of his metal yeah and like the the u.s olympic committee says he has the medal but the the international one says he doesn't so he can't he's like i'm sort of a gold medal winner he can't even be like i i'm a gold medal winner i mean in the event i i was fastest they took it from me but you know i was on asthma medication so obviously that'll make me more so and swimming is really good for asthma i would assume it would be yeah moving around
Starting point is 00:28:46 so when kids were diagnosed with it your lungs have to expand yeah right because you're constantly exercising your lungs doctors will recommend that you try swimming much like weed smoking right good exercise get your lungs in and out come on. Come on. There you go. Big inhale. Get it harder. Cough. Get it all out. There you go. That's healthy. One more.
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Starting point is 00:30:54 or Wondery app. That's great. So Mark Spitz, he set world records and won seven gold medals that year. Jesus. He set a new world record for each of his seven gold medals. In every event that he wonesus um he set a new world record for each of his seven gold medals and every event that he won he's had a new world record the fastest ever yeah that's why he was so fucking popular you know what i mean i mean that'll do it that's big plus he had like a
Starting point is 00:31:16 mustache and he was like a you know strapping guy 70s guy yeah he looked like he looked like a guy who was like would hang out with joe namath back then you know what i mean like that cool guy so his record stood until 2008 when michael phelps beat it by winning eight gold medals so shit not too shabby well other things in the olympics a soviet gymnast became a media star after they won the gold medal this is olga corbett and i've heard of her and that was the only way i could hear her is if people really go crazy for her uh the u.s lost in the basketball finals to the soviet union wow yeah this i've actually heard of it's considered the most
Starting point is 00:31:58 controversial game in international basketball history oh yeah i remember this too uh who was on that team was it the the announcer uh fuck i'm trying to remember now this was a big deal though i don't remember but the announcer was on the team and when they won the olymp when they won the gold they gave him a gold medal because he he was because he got fucked out of it in this game i mean he wasn't really fucked out it was whatever the rule is at the end. They lost by one or two or whatever. It says here in a close fought match, the U.S. team appeared to have won by a score of 50 to 49. Right. However, the final three seconds of the game were replayed three times by judges until the Soviet Union came out on top and claimed a 51 to 50 victory.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Right. That repeatedly played the last three seconds. So the U.S. team refused to accept their silver medals, which are still believed to be held in a vault in Switzerland somewhere. Wow. However, team member and former congressman Tim McMillan requested the medals from the IOC, who refused it. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:00 It's come to light since that five of the medals are missing and believed to be in the hands of a German Olympic official with Nazi ties. Oh. I don't know what's going on. That's just the thing there. That's what's come out recently here. So there's all of that. Oh, Christ, the pole vault.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Badminton and water skiing were demonstration sports this year. Oh. Water skiing? What a weird Olympic sport. Badminton? Badminton? Yeah, another one. Don't they have tennis isn't that good enough right so it's fast badminton isn't it it's standing up you know athletic badminton badminton tennis for grandma right right badminton feels like training for tennis yeah for kids and old people and you know because you ever watch
Starting point is 00:33:44 somebody get really competitive with badminton they look ridiculous oh they look like ass you look like an idiot you jump up mash and that thing that goes no no speed at all jumping up taking half the net down it's just not nothing sturdy it's it's meant to be a real calm game it's not meant to be played that competitively i don't think so the main issue of the Munich Olympics was the Munich massacre, of course, though. Right. That's right. There's been movies about it and everything else. And quickly here, it was Black September terrorist organization.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Palestinians broke into the Olympic Village and took 11 Israeli athletes, coaches and officials hostage in their apartments. Two of the hostages that resisted were killed. That's the other thing. You take Olympic athletes hostage. These are like alphas in the prime of their, you know, they want to win. They're competitive. You're going to get a bunch of them that are going to go, I'll fight this guy with a gun. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:34:38 These are the best of the best, and they've got arrogance. Huge arrogance. Medals around their necks. So, yeah, anybody that I, you know, you would expect a lot of these guys to fight, and they've got arrogance a huge arrogance medals around their necks um so yeah anybody that i you know you would expect a lot of these guys to fight and they did and they were killed in the first moments and then there was a big standoff in the village that lasted 18 hours so 18 hours uh the terrorists and their nine remaining hostages were transferred by helicopter to the military airport and then to board a plane for an, quote, undetermined Arab country. And German authorities planned to ambush them there.
Starting point is 00:35:11 But I guess that was a they were undermanned and they couldn't do it. So there was a botched rescue attempt during that. All of the Israeli hostages were killed. Four of them were shot, then incinerated when one of the terrorists detonated a grenade inside the helicopter in which the hostages were sitting and then the five remaining hostages were then shot and killed with a machine gun jesus christ yeah so this olympics was obviously not great i mean remember atlanta's most horrific thing I've ever heard. Oh, it's terrifying and horrifying.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Remember Atlanta when that bomb went off and everybody, that was like so memorable? This is way crazy. Way worse. Yeah. Fucking insane. The athletes were put on a plane, exploded or machine gun. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That's what happened. That's fucking wild. All but three of the terrorists were killed as well really yeah they were it's a then they had they ended up exchanging some of them for a hijacked luftanza flight at one point and the 70s were wild man shit was shit was crazy back then so here is doug on what it was like to be in the olympics he said now what would you say if you were in the olympics someone said what was it like to be in the olympics an honor to represent my country uh an honor to participate against the best athletes in the on the planet uh honor oh
Starting point is 00:36:37 okay yeah that's that's pretty good that's a good pr line he said i fucked a bunch of chicks in the village he said i was raw dogging my way across germany he said quote it was cool it was totally cool i totally dug it that was his response it was cool it was totally cool i totally dug it you're from ontario bro you're not even from la he sounds like a surfer you're a swimmer not a surfer. You're a swimmer, not a surfer. That's the other thing. And then the other part of it too, this is later on. He didn't say this right after the Olympics. This is an interview in the nineties when he was 41 years old. So it's not like he was a 17 year old high school kid who just won some
Starting point is 00:37:17 medals. And he was like, it was totally cool, man. I totally dug it. Yeah. Fucking let's go see the airplane. He was a,
Starting point is 00:37:22 he's my age saying I totally dug it. Totally dug it. Yeah. Wow. It was cool. He's my age saying I totally dug it? Totally dug it, yeah. Wow. It was cool. It was totally cool. I totally dug it. I would never say that. Then he said, I mean it was like so fun, and the newspaper italicized so.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So he said so fun. So he's a 16-year-old girl from Orange County now is what he is. At 41. At 41. Weird. year old girl from Orange County now is what he is at 41 at 41 weird um they said he was beaming here in the paper and that quote sounding just a little like the 17 year old he was when he first made his first of three U.S. Olympic teams okay yeah the Munich games are a sweet highlight in Northway's Olympic career our Olympic, marked by a roller coaster day. There, he soaked up the excitement of winning his bronze medal and watched with helpless frustration while DeMont's 400-meter freestyle was taken from him because of the asthma medication.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So Northway, DeMont, and U.S. teammate Mike Burton were all set to race in the finals of the 1500 freestyle, and then he wasn't allowed to. Northway said, quote, we were out there and rick was still not sure what was going to happen so mike and i went into the waiting room and rick stayed out i was worried about rick uh from both ways number one he was going to kick my butt and i knew it meaning in the water not yeah you know out of it two, because he was my friend and I don't like bad things happening to my friends. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:48 So that's what he says. He said that he was confused and relieved about the guy's absence from the race. He said, obviously, he made my chances better. Yeah, I had no idea what happened, but I was thrilled that he wasn't there. He would have finished ahead of him, which would have knocked him out of medal contention,
Starting point is 00:39:03 and Doug Northway would be a guy no one's ever heard of at this point. So he said, I think because he wasn't swimming, the pressure was off to swim hard. When I did swim, I swam a little more relaxed race. I just kind of let down, so I ended up getting third. No, I would have won, but I didn't try as hard as I should have. I wanted to really, you know, let everybody else have a chance. You know, I figured this guy's gone.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Let's just have an open competition. I don't want to beat everybody too bad, discourage them. Let's do a nice Sunday swim, guys. Here we go. Let's go. These guys aren't going to want to swim anymore. He said, first and second got away from me. I didn't know where they were, but I wanted to medal.
Starting point is 00:39:41 That's good. By about 1100, he had dropped back so i didn't have to see him anymore then i swam on the last 400 and touched the wall and said quote oh cool this guy what a dork wow um demont said about him that uh because they're i guess they were coached by the same coach or whatever, and he said he's just a tough racer and an aggressive racer about Doug. An incredibly gifted swimmer. He was a lung with arms and legs. Gross.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Is that what they call each other? You're a real lung. You're a real lung with arms and legs? What a weird, Jesus. And he's just a gigantic teddy bear. Old Northway. He's old. 5'11", 160. Gigantic teddy bear. Sweet, kind lung.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Just a big furry lung that you can hug and lay in your bed with. So, Northway, I guess it says, the Munich Games hold other ironies for Northway. The Games forever have a dark place in Olympic history with the murder of 11 Israeli athletes in the Olympic village. On the day he swam in the 1500 Northway forgot his badge that identified him as
Starting point is 00:40:53 an athlete and gave him access to the Olympic village. What kind of need that? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and he doesn't look, he just looks like a regular guy. So it's not like,
Starting point is 00:41:03 you know, Oh, look at it. He's obviously an Olympic athlete. If it was like one of the basketball players, you just looks like a regular guy, so it's not like, you know, oh, look, he's obviously an Olympic athlete. If it was like one of the basketball players, you'd go, well, yeah, there's not a lot of seven-foot-two black guys walking around Germany, so maybe. While trying to return to his room after the race, he was stopped by a guard who wouldn't let him in without the badge. He said, I reached into my bag, pulled out my bronze medal, and showed it to him, and he said, okay, and that's how I got in. Really? I have this, this stupid i won this good enough for what fuck yeah he said within six or seven hours of that happening the terrorists came over the fence so that really puts a damper on everything
Starting point is 00:41:36 you're not even you're still you still stink of you still have sticky champagne on you yeah you smell of chlorine on you yeah it's chlorine and sticky champagne on you from the celebration. You still got the smell of chlorine on you. Yeah, it's chlorine and sticky champagne, cheap, sticky champagne. So they said with the swimming portion of the Olympics completed, the U.S. swimming team had an exhibition scheduled nearby in a town, and they actually did it. They went the next day and did everything with their exhibition. He said, we weren't there when most of this,
Starting point is 00:42:05 uh, most of this happened. We got back very late at night and I believe the whole thing had gone down by then. I think that my appreciation of the tragedy was not as keen as it should have been with my youth. I was pretty naive. I swam.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I was a swimmer. I had one vision and that was motoring up and down pools. Okay. Um, yeah. So he comes back in Tucson here in the Tucson Daily Citizen, September 5th, 1972. It says his coach in the headline, it'll be the same old Doug returning, says that ex-coach.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Said success will not spoil him. No? No. Are you kidding me? Same old Doug? He said, I've seen many kids come back from an experience like that with a big head. But I can assure you that will not be the case with Doug. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Not happening. He said, I was talking to Bob Davis, who's Northway's coach on the Pima County Dolphins. Yeah. No, boy. On the phone after the race, Bob said that when Doug learned Saguaro was planning a big day for him when he gets back, he asked them to call it off. He doesn't want it. But the kids Chuck will have next year will look up to Doug, but he won't look down on them. He's the good humor man in practice.
Starting point is 00:43:16 He'll be cracking jokes while everyone's catching their breath, and he does an imitation of a frog that really breaks everybody up. Oh, when he swims? Yeah. No. Or maybe when he swims, but I don't if he i was thinking maybe he ribbits loud like he does a yeah maybe he sings the rainbow song and i'm not sure uh maybe he ribbits i'm not sure things like that make it easier to coach and tough practice oh man so he um he said it was a bad day. Oh, this guy was pissed off that Rick DeMott didn't get his chance. He said, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:49 He said, I think Doug would still have been third with Rick in the race. He thinks he would have run harder, he said. Yeah. He said, quote, we were swimming against Santa Rita at Davis Monthend when Doug was a freshman. It was very windy, andoug was blown right off the starting blocks how windy is it blown off the off that thing that you dive in from yeah how the fuck do you get blown off of that how that's a strong wind i guess if you're leaning anyway yeah you're leaning they're like they really are they have like one ounce of weight back yeah and they're
Starting point is 00:44:22 waiting for that forward waiting for that little whistle or that burn i guess that makes sense uh some of the people who were watching began laughing they were wondering what this skinny kid was doing there and if he could finish the race i'll tell you he's a real a real credit to the school i'm proud to be associated with him yeah um his parents called it a hectic and wonderful summer. Now, here it says his dad's name is Mervin, but it's not Mervin, so I don't know what's going on. Maybe that's mom's name? It says Northway, Doug's father, Mervin.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But I know his name. I'm confused. It was Howard, wasn't it? Yeah, they might have fucked it up in the paper. Doug knows exactly what he can do, or maybe that's what his nickname is. Maybe his dad was shopping at Mervin's. Maybe, yes. We ran into his dad at Mervin's, and he said this.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Before the race, Bob tells him what he expects. Doug has great confidence in Bob and himself. The greatest thing was Chicago, where the Olympic trials were held. Bob told us the trials are tougher than the Olympics. When Doug qualified, all he got for it was an award with a strip of cardboard it said you were a member of the u.s olympic team written with a marking pen the ink was running a little it had gotten water on it but i know that scrap of cardboard means as much to him as any metal okay oh man so it's here's from the paper. September 11th, 72.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Northway extends European vacation. It sounds like he's just coming back to be a regular old high school student who has European vacations during the school year. That's normal. Jesus Christ. I guess he is going to stay. His what is this? His coach said he called me from Munich about 5.45 yesterday. He said he'd be visiting Greece with some other members of the swim team. I don't know what it's for or who's paying for it. It doesn't have anything to do with the Olympics. Why does it matter to go there to train? I don't know what the difference is.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I'm not sure. His dad said... Is the water lighter? Yeah, it's less salty over there. More buoyant. More buoyant. Yeah, more salty. This is his dad.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I called Harry Johnson, the assistant. Harry Johnson is his name. The assistant principal at Saguaro. And he told me about it. I told him about it and he said it was okay. It means Doug will have to double up on his schoolwork, but he's a good student. Yeah. Doug was in good spirits. He didn't seem homesick.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I told him to call me from New York when he got there so I'd know when to go pick him up. Jesus Christ. So Northway's father also learned that the Northway's coach there would be in Tucson. Okay, because he's going to be with him. That doesn't matter. September 22nd,
Starting point is 00:47:02 1972, he comes home and in the newspaper, Northway receives a hero's welcome, the Arizona Daily Star. Yep, and a crowd of 200 people met him at the plane. Is that right? At the Tucson International Airport. High school cheerleaders, a 15-piece band, and 200 people. And 200 people.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, it's like in the program when omar epps goes and visits the yeah he gets off the plane yeah there's cheerleaders and pussy and music yeah hey look at that northway said it was amazing i wasn't expecting it i would rather just kind of come home without such a large crowd well quit bitching yeahing. Yeah. Yeah. So Northway said, I was happy. It was the same thing as any other swimming meet, but only built up more.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It's the Olympics. Come on. He said, there was a spirit of brotherhood there, but I could also feel a bit of the politics. It's the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Again, it's every country in the fucking world. What do you want? The Tucson mayor, Lewis Murray, signed a proclamation according to the school district communications director making tuesday doug northway day hey look at that oh my god he's
Starting point is 00:48:14 gonna send him a a copper letter that arizona loves copper they love love copper. And they also honor him as an outstanding citizen of Tucson. Oh. There you go. He's going to do that. His father said he looks a little taller now, and his hair looks a little longer. It used to be about a half inch long. Okay. Well, it's 72.
Starting point is 00:48:40 He's trying to grow it out. He's trying to look a little looser here. He's been away for a minute. I mean, I shaved my head and it's back in a week. It comes back quickly. You shave your face constantly and it comes. So he talks about Rick being shafted. He calls it shafted is what Doug said.
Starting point is 00:49:00 He got the shaft, man. He said, after the race, we went back into the room and I looked like i looked like we'd been killed people asked us what was wrong we were shocked he'd been disqualified so he said even with our medals we were upset that he was disqualified so 74 he graduates from high school and attends the university of washington and he'll also end up at u of a i, here. So he had a four-year career in, I didn't know this was a profession at any time in the world, professional marathon swimming. Who the fuck is watching people swim a marathon? 26.2? A whole marathon.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Yeah, it says where he raced all over the world in events that were up to 26 miles. Jesus Christ. Who is watching people swim that long? Yeah, and who's doing that? Yeah, someone has to pay money to see that to make it professional. And how do you watch 26 miles of swimming? That's got to be back and forth in a pool? Back and forth 700 times.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I don't have any idea. Or just sit out there and watch them swim the fucking the fucking hoover yeah just english channel back and forth what are we doing it's insane so april 25th 1975 northway is to swim for u of a he's coming home he's decided to drop out of the university of Washington and enroll in the U of A, University of Arizona here. So they're all very excited. Unbelievable. Yeah. Washington cut back their minor sports programs, which included swimming. Minor sports program is swimming.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Minor. Even though they had a guy who was an Olympic person, there's still no draw to watching people swim long distances. The guy got a podium finish. He said he was disappointed, and now he's going to move back to Tucson and go to U of A. So he's making a crime and sports mistake right away. He's going home. Right back home. Right back home.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Not even 25. Already breaking rules. He said there's still some hope that Washington will bring the program back, but he said he's not going to take any chances, and he's going there. He's glad to be returning to Tucson because he's going to reunite with his swim coach and everything's going to be great. So he is going to compete in the Pan American Games in Mexico City in 1975. He, by the way, never won an AAU title.
Starting point is 00:51:28 What does that mean? College stuff. He never won one of those. But he wins the gold at the 400-meter freestyle at the 75 Pan American Games in Mexico City. Great. So, yeah, he broke a record, too. He said, quote, it's so much better than silver or bronze.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Yeah. Yeah. It's the first one. I don't. Yes. Obvious. That's why they give those to people that you beat. Go back to saying it was cool.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Let's just go back there because you're an idiot. So those were the words of the jubilant Doug Northway after he captured the gold medal in the 400-meter freestyle. Northway is Tucson's premier swimmer, they say here. Oh. Yeah, premier swimmer, which is, I didn't know there was a swimming scene to be the premier of, but apparently there is. They said it's been some kind of summer for him him and he said he's in the midst of a comeback now even though he's 20 he says he's one of the old men of the u.s swimming scene can't even drink beer all washed up all washed up at 20 here so he said this is a major accomplishment for him
Starting point is 00:52:37 it's very excited um he said it felt really easy believe me really. Really easy. Wow. He said, I just cruised. I was watching Hackett all the way pacing off of him. I probably could have gone faster, but I just wanted to win. Everybody's like, I could have done better. Could have done better, but no. He said, quote, every race, it's dot, dot, dot. Then the Star Spangled Banner i hear can hear it right now in the background the mexicans don't know what to do they cheer so hard for mexico but um it's
Starting point is 00:53:12 all star spangled banner it sure sounds good i don't know what he's saying i don't know what he's saying sounds like he's holding up a medal going mexicans swim like shit bitches yeah this ain't the rio grand river motherfucker that's right ah scoreboard when there's no current helping you yeah that's right can't swim when you don't have eight of your children hanging off you fucking kicking for their little lives do you haha yeah i'm better now just making horrible he's like yeah i'm from tucson i'm a dick star spangled banner bitch yeah what's up scoreboard oh say can you see not jose can you see get it motherfucker oh no jimmy's gonna be coughing home of the, not home of the brown. Suck it. That's right. You get it? Yeah. Woo.
Starting point is 00:54:06 He's making the fucking crotch chop from fucking Degeneration X. And they're like, it's 1975. Right in his face. Yeah. What's up, Pablo? And he's fucking. November 29th, 1975. He captures three swim events here to dominate the Tucson Conquistadors senior swim meet yesterday at the McHale Memorial Center Pool.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Oh, that's a nice place. I guess. But I guess this is what you do after your Olympic career is over. You do swimming exhibitions. Yeah. In 76 here, northway wins in los angeles he won the 200 meter freestyle he's going down in in times here qual with a qualifying time blah blah blah he finished second in the 200 meter butterfly in a time which qualifies him for
Starting point is 00:55:00 nationals april 7th 1976 here he um i guess he's he's winning again yeah winning he said that quote i got out front and once i knew i was there i made sure no one got up on me yeah got up on me that's a weird way of putting it get up off me bitch uh june 12th 1976 he's uh he wants to be in the olympics again here he said as soon as the last olympics were over i made up my mind to come to these ones in montreal wanted to be there so he thought to be washed up northway in the space of nine months became pan-american games champ in the 400 meter free new u.s national champ the same event, and now holds the fastest 400 time in the world this year. Wow. So that's wild.
Starting point is 00:55:50 From 17 being this bright, shining star and all this, and then 20, it's like, well, you're done. We don't need you anymore. Washed up. Swimming's tough, man. It's a three-year window, it seems like. I don't know. It might be because Phelps only swam a few times, right?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah, I think you really got to be young. I don't know what it is. And it's every four years, so, dude, if you don't get it in in those first two that you're in your prime, it's fucking over for you. You're 30 now. You're 30 now. It's over. You're not kidding.
Starting point is 00:56:22 That's a tough one. What a tough way to live. Imagine if comedy was like that. Oh, God. I was 30 i'd have been fine you could be just ahead in comedy and you can still draw if you can right be funny um so he said the 400 is my a1 race at the trials and the 200 is next and the 1500 i might be able to sneak in. He's trying here. He wants to, I guess, go to the Olympics again, which, I mean, why not? So they say Northway finds AIDS in record. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Does that mean he's got AIDS? He found it on his medical records? What's going on here? He said he will have to content himself with a share of the world record and a personal best as a result of his efforts at the montreal olympics because he won't be coming home with a medal so yeah didn't get a medal here his he said his time was fine a personal best by a second but uh it was the relay thing so it's not up to you this is when you got other people and that that relay is all four different types of of strokes
Starting point is 00:57:26 so you've got one guy's woman breast all that and then you and then you got the anchor's woman free and uh if one guy is slower than everybody else in the pool your whole team sucks yeah that's that's everybody's got to be perfect that's pretty impressive when they are too when you see yeah you know like clockwork here so they said here's from an si article sports illustrated august 2nd 1976 having made the u.s olympic team as no more than an alternate on the 800 meter freestyle relay university of arizona junior doug northway arrived in montreal in a subdued mood he says quote it means i only get to swim in a preliminary heat big deal big deal no sooner did the eight-day olympic swim program get into full swing however the northway was
Starting point is 00:58:12 exalting quote aren't we doing great he exclaimed to anyone who would listen it's an honor just to be on this team oh oh what improved northway's mood was the same horde of gold medals and world records by u.s men that was uplifting the spirits of the huge contingent of American fans. Nearly all of them relatives, it appeared, in the modernistic 9200 capacity some fucking stadium. Whenever they dropped in, they could count on seeing one or another jaunty countryman and often clusters of them slamming into the last wall ahead of the competition yeah if you're swimming freestyle you have no idea who's in the crowd yeah you can't see anything you know you can't see shit your face is in the water i assume you have to focus you come out of the water every like three or four strokes for breath that's it
Starting point is 00:59:00 that's it yeah by the time the last abridged star-spangled banner wafted through the arena on sunday night the u.s men had amassed some startling statistics 12 of 13 golds and astonishingly 25 of 33 individual medals wow in four events they went one two three and five others they were one and two jesus christ not too shabby at all um northway did not receive a medal though as we know um he said though this was less stressful he said quote i was much more mature it wasn't as nerve-wracking and all i was doing in the 800 all i was doing was the 800 free relay i had a good team and we knew it and i just wanted to do a good job. All right, Doug. So February 4th, 1979, he's still in college, I guess, here. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah, which is, I guess, 75. ASU beat them up in swimming and he's very upset about it. The wait is over. So far you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:00:12 You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um...
Starting point is 01:00:26 This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I i have crystal ball in my head it's an all-new season it's streaming you can say anything judy justice only on freebie may 1st 1981 um doug northway pools his assets for bigger splash is the headline in the newspaper. Yeah. They said, so most people have a hard time walking 18 miles. Not many can run 18 miles.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Hardly any can swim 18 miles. We get it. Swimming is hard. It's very difficult to do it, I guess. It's hard. Yeah. They said, but that's what Doug Northway intends to do this summer. He intends to jump into a lake, a river, or an ocean.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It depends on where in the world he is. As swim marathon races some 18 miles in length. Jesus Christ. He will compete in the Luxor Swim Marathon in Luxor, Egypt. He's going to Egypt to swim? Egypt to swim. Who is paying for this? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Five days later, he'll swim in the International Nile Swim Marathon in Cairo. He's swimming the Nile, for Christ's sake. That's crazy. What the fuck? Although this race has been paired into a mere 12-mile splash. Later this summer, he plans to compete in several Canadian marathons and one in Atlantic City, New Jersey. compete in several Canadian marathons and one in Atlantic City, New Jersey. He's not doing it for the delight of self-torture nor to accomplish something few others have.
Starting point is 01:02:12 He's doing it for the money. Yes, believe it or not, there's money to be made in swimming. How much? Wow. He says, quote, I figure I could make between $12,000 and $20,000 this year, Northway says confidently. This year? This year. Professional swimming, few people know it exists.
Starting point is 01:02:30 This is the article that goes on. Northway is a member of the Professional Swimming Federation, the PSF, which sanctions long-distance races. I'm a member of the federation, but I won't be considered professional until I win some money. Yeah, so he's training. Training, he says, as much as 10 miles a day he's swimming. That's a lot. Jesus Christ. He said, my training's in flux right now.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I had been training in sprints. So he's fucking ready to go, though. He can't wait. He said he wants to be a professional swimmer. He said, this is something I've wanted for a long time. I'll gain valuable experience. It will be intense training. I don't know if I'll win, but when I want something, I come after it. Yeah, I believe it. And he said, with that money in front of me, I can only get hotter and hotter. Yeah. All that big money out there. The Nile race is the ninth annual, so I'm sure people will come
Starting point is 01:03:20 out. Oh, who wouldn't want to watch that? And down in Rio de Janeiro, tens of thousands of people line up to watch the race. Why? Tens of thousands? Are there dangerous animals in the water with them maybe and a couple of them will be taken down by a gator? Is that what's happening? I hope so. It's all I can imagine. Big snakes? Giant snakes. Yeah, the ones that just
Starting point is 01:03:39 unhinge their jaw and just swallow a whole swimmer. Suck babies in? Yeah. Or adult swimmers. You know, 5'10". I'll watch that. Olympic medalists. They spit the medal out when they're done. He said, I want to be the world champion distance swimmer.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Great. That's wonderful. July 19th, 1982. He's second. He comes in second in the Around the Island swim in Atlantic City, New Jersey. Covering 22 and a half miles in 10 hours and 10 minutes. 10 hours
Starting point is 01:04:12 in the water. Imagine swimming for 10 hours. Wow. Holy shit. He collapsed after the race and had to be pulled from the water but was revived afterwards. Yeah. Oh, no, that's a different guy.
Starting point is 01:04:26 That's a guy. Paul. Paul Asmuth, which looks like ass mouth. That's not great. Also asthma. How how do you how do you collapse in the water? That's just that's drowning. I believe.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Right. That's what that's called. Yeah. It's called fucking sinking to the bottom. Yeah. And so Doug all jacked up. He came in Yeah. It's called fucking sinking to the bottom. Yeah. And so Doug, all jacked up. He came in second. He's doing great.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Maybe he's headed down to the ad, which is right below this in the newspaper, in the Tucson Citizen, headed to the grand opening of the greatest go-go show in Phoenix has come to Tucson. Bourbon Street Circus has come here. Get out of here. Oh, yeah. Couples welcome. Proper dress Street Circus has come here. Get out of here. Oh, yeah. Couples welcome. Proper dress attired.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Couples welcome. Yeah, that's where they want to go. Fucking Bourbon Street. Come have your wife learn how to shake her titties at you. Bring your wife. She'll love it. Hilarious. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I wonder if this is the same group that opened the club on Thomas. It says the greatest go-go show in Phoenix has come to Tucson. It's got, it's gotta be the one. Yeah. It's there. They just hope they just expanded. And there's a satellite show picture of this eighties chick.
Starting point is 01:05:38 It's like a headshot. It's not even like a, it's just this eighties chick. Like I'll show you my tits. They all look the same. Yeah. Same thing. So October 19th, 1982, he's swimming in Egypt.
Starting point is 01:05:49 He wins five races in Egypt. Really? Yeah. I don't know what it is about the southern hemisphere he's doing. Well, not quite. Yeah, it's southern by there. So he said that an Olympic bronze medal winner swam the distance in three hours and 17 kilometers in three hours and 49 minutes. 17 kilometers.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Yep. Second was Arizona State star Paul Assmouth. Oh, he was coming for him. He was right there. 1983, he's got a girlfriend. Uh-huh. You notice this is the first we've heard of any relationships or anything like that. He's just been focusing on swimming.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Swimming. Assmouth. And other things, as we'll find out. But he has a girlfriend named Christine Cassette. By 1983, they said another Canadian, Christine Cassette, who won the women's titles here. Apparently she's a swimmer, too. With a fifth overall finish in 1981 and 10th overall in 1980, will be returning after a year's layoff and will provide Muir with a tough, very tough challenge.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Christine was also scheduled to swim last year, but pulled out at the last moment to train her boyfriend, Doug Northway, the Arizonan, who will be competing this year. So, 1984, he still loves distance swimming, even though he's almost 30. Yeah. He said that he trained as best he could
Starting point is 01:07:04 in the desert pools of arizona and entered the world professional marathon swimming federation circuit the wpmsf yeah that's a lot wpmsf wpmsf yeah world professional marathon swimming federation they said uh in 1984 he W.P.M.S.F. Yeah. World Professional Marathon Swimming Federation. They said in 1984, he won a 32 kilometer international race in seven hours and 37 minutes. Jesus. And a second one in Quebec as well. And he won a 24 mile Cabo San Lucas professional race. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:07:41 At the tip of Bahamas. Okay. So by 93, obviously, you you know now he's pushing 40 so yeah no one's swimming the same distance they are they were when they were 18 when they're 40 20 20 miles you're certainly you're certainly uh questioning yourself 30s pushing it 40s like okay come on grandpa let's go over here you're're in. You're going to hurt yourself. This is swimming. This isn't like.
Starting point is 01:08:08 It's like an NFL running back at that point. Like, come on. No, no, no, no. Your knees are creaking. You don't want to send me through that line. You're not doing that. So June 27th, 1993, Arizona Daily Star. There is an article here where it says two former Olympians are coaching summer league teams this summer.
Starting point is 01:08:23 It says two former Olympians are coaching summer league teams this summer. Christy Amon-Layton, who was last summer won two golds and a silver at the Barcelona Olympics, is coaching the 49ers team. And Doug Northway, who swam for Saguaro High School and won a bronze medal in 72, is coaching the team at Ventana Canyon. Okay. Ventana Canyon. Okay. They said they both have Division I swimmers as assistants, and they named who those are, which no one will ever hear of those. They said the coaching has improved considerably around the league as several experienced high school coaches have taken summer jobs
Starting point is 01:08:56 to complement the talents of some of the other people here. So the kids are getting Olympians here, and the last line of this article is, quote, the kids are learning a lot. Okay. So he's got a wife named Linda by now. Wife named Linda has three children, Jesse, Matthew, Melanie. So by now he's kind of teaching. He's got a wife.
Starting point is 01:09:20 He's got three children. He's big into church. He's doing all that stuff by June of 1996. He lives in Tucson with his wife and three kids. He's got a 10-year-old, 7-year-old, and 5-year-old. I mean, just looking like the all-American family. He's pursuing his master's at U of A in bilingual special education, which is very specific but a cool thing. which is very specific but a cool thing um he coaches swim meets at ventana canyon is a licensed minister and an associate pastor at a church in green valley and teaches spanish to elementary
Starting point is 01:09:53 students at grace christian school okay okay um here's a picture of him in the paper would you like to see it here let me turn the line you don't have to move is he missing hair no oh look at that he looks like fucking gilligan yeah he looks like gilligan he's in the pool wearing a shirt um yeah smiling big smile show anybody his tits shit eating grin with it has to be one two three four five 19 kids has to be yeah high teens amount of kids but the kids are like eight they're not in their teens eight and nine yeah ex-olympian doug northway coaches eight and nine year old swimmers at ventana canyon they're hanging off his neck they're there's a little girl like up on his shoulder like smiling they all there's one behind him like in a choke hold like you're naked and smiling yeah like when you take your little kid and you swim with them across the pool and you swim fast with them and
Starting point is 01:10:44 you're like oh my neck fuck. Hold my neck, fucker. Yeah, that's what it looks like, except there are just real smiley people here. So they said he skillfully divides his time between his studies. He has a 4.0 grade point average. Yeah. Coaching kids, teaching kids, his family, and his faith. You bet. Yep.
Starting point is 01:11:00 And his faith. You bet. Yep. He set his present goals to finish his master's, but he would enjoy moving to the collegiate level in coaching or working full-time in the ministry. Either way, three career paths. The world is his oyster. It's tough, man. But you got to keep going.
Starting point is 01:11:17 You got to keep going. When it comes to motivating kids, he's careful to impart the lessons he learned from former U of A coach who had a great impact on him. He said, he had the vision for where I was going. I accepted what he said and pretty much did what he asked, but he had to work hard with me. As a coach, he said, it's teaching swimmers to focus on the business at hand that's key to success. You have to focus on what your business is, not on glory. Glory is so nebulous, so ethereal. It's not concrete. You have to take care of business because knowing it's your race strategy, knowing your strengths, knowing what you can do, that's
Starting point is 01:11:51 going to create a winning scenario for you in real intense levels. Okay. Here's another picture I'd like to show you. Um, here we go. Doug Northway uses his kickboard to help a young swimmer. When it comes to motivating kids. He draws the lessons from where he learned at college coach. Okay. He's a little girls on the little thing here was a kickboard. He has got the what looks like an iron grip on her wrist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And he's staring down at her and kind of smiling and like, you know, with pride, I guess you could call it. But iron grip on that wrist. And she's. Yeah, that's a that's a interesting. down at her and kind of smiling and like you know with pride i guess you could call it yeah uh but iron grip on that wrist and she's yeah that's a that's a interesting i don't know why he's holding her like that when yeah it's a foam board it's it sits upright i don't know if he's guiding her around and he's right next door it's not like she's gonna drown you know he can just reach in and pull her right out he's standing there in the pool next to her he's wearing like a polo shirt in the pool which i find not weird. Shirt's fine.
Starting point is 01:12:46 How about a T-shirt? This guy's got a collared golf shirt on. My kid's swim coach used to do that, but he was a 550, 600-pound man. That makes sense. When he was in the water, he just felt better because he had no pressure on his knees at that point. Yeah, he was saving himself knee pressure and saving the kids a lot of, you know, probably terrible things to look at. Yeah. So there he is there. July 25th, 1996.
Starting point is 01:13:13 We're talking about him here. He's 41. He's coaching everything. There's a big like a Arizona Daily Star has like a big profile on him. OK. Yeah. And he says that, you know, he's talking about the Olympics still. He's 41, but I mean,
Starting point is 01:13:28 people are interested in that. Coming out for the race, you're just nerve-wracked. You have dry mouth. You're scared to death and huge butterflies. When they call you out to the blocks, when you're standing back there, you're naked.
Starting point is 01:13:39 You're just so exposed to the world at the Olympics. It was a huge feeling. And then getting up on the blocks just waiting, you're oh please just start this stupid thing wow yeah i hope you're never naked all excited here june 7th 1997 yeah this is the tucson citizen headline quote olympian pleads guilty to attempted molesting oh no do you see those pictures yeah not now those are not nice pictures at all no the way those kids were all hanging on him in a fucking pool one attempted molesting well we'll talk about it here oh boy he has pleaded guilty to attempting to molest a nine year old tucson girl ever nine the girl no the kids that age the ones he was teaching with the holding their hand all too tight and all that shit how could you ever that is fucking hideous and he has access to way too many to them
Starting point is 01:14:41 and he has but he also teaches like older kids so he could have gone there and he said, no, no, no, no. I like nine-year-olds. Nine solid. Yeah. Wow. He was charged in January with two counts of child molesting for allegedly molesting the girl in the summer of, because this is a plea to attempt it. So that means the charge was actual molesting. The summer of 1995 when they were doing those articles on him.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Wow. That's when that happened. That's, yeah. Look, all those pictures were being taken. Yeah. One of those kids,
Starting point is 01:15:13 he was molesting. One of these fucking poor kids was like, oh, this is great. Yeah. Well, he's fucking, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Those charges were dropped after he pled guilty to attempting to molest the girl. He faces five to 15 years in prison, but the judge could also give him probation. What? Why? What? I can't believe we treated child molestation so fucking casually before. This was like 25 years ago, too. It feels like so cavalier. It's weird. Like, like 25 years ago, too. Yeah, so cavalier.
Starting point is 01:15:46 It's weird. Like, well, you know, that happens. Or they could give him probation. Yeah, Northway, who's not in custody, I guess out on bail, is no longer working as a swim coach at Ventana Canyon Golf and Racquet Club. That's good.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Bob Davis, who coached him in swimming at U of A, said he believes Northway felt devastated when he talked to him months ago about the alleged molestation charges. He, yeah. He should. Well, yeah, there's other people devastated too. Davis said he talks with Northway maybe every six months of the year. He said, quote, I just don't believe anything like that could happen. I just don't believe he could do that.
Starting point is 01:16:27 But it did. I just don't see how he could have been capable of that. I couldn't think of a bigger waste if he did any of this. What are you talking about? He pled. He pled. They had fucking evidence he did it. And they said, well, why did he plead guilty?
Starting point is 01:16:43 And he said, I don't know. I couldn't tell you. Because he did it and they said well why'd he plead guilty and he said i don't know i couldn't tell you because he did it he pled guilty in the court records to a quote attempting to touch the girl's genitals jesus it's a fucking nine-year-old yikes this guy makes chad curtis look like a fucking yeah look like a a bow coming up to these kids. What the fuck is happening? Wow. He couldn't be reached for comment. A man answering Northway's phone who would not identify himself referred questions to the attorney. Now, his attorney said that he would not comment on the case until after Northway is sentenced, which is probably smart.
Starting point is 01:17:26 If Northway is handed probation, he could be ordered to spend a year in the Pima County Jail as part of his probation. If sent to prison, he would have to serve 85% of his time. And he will have to register as a sex offender as well. He will have to participate in a sex offender treatment program if given probation. They said that Northway was charged after the investigation. The victim's parents contacted authorities. Oh, my God. Court records said that the investigator here did not say how Northway met or knew the girl, nor where the alleged molestation occurred.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Probably in the pool. If that's where he's got access. If you have access to all these nine-year-olds, you're not going to go out and find a nine-year-old on the side, I don't think. In a swimsuit. I mean, she's almost naked already. Dude, can you imagine being the parents, not of her even, of other kids who weren't molested but were around him? And you'd be like, I left you with a child molester. I am so fucking, I'd feel terrible about that. You're sure.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Enormous piece of shit. You're positive? You're positive. Seriously. You didn't like. You can tell me did you go under for a minute kind of black out come to what was going on nothing nothing never had any pain or anything nothing like that okay yeah nothing you felt good after swimming after
Starting point is 01:18:36 swimming you never felt weird never felt you know never felt real real violated yeah yeah no okay Real violated? Icky? Icky, yeah. No? Okay, good. That's good. I'd feel horrible. I'd feel so bad. So the girl, now 11, said, quote, apparently has been involved in some counseling. This is the lawyer here. He said the girl's family is devastated that their child was subjected to this kind of horrible molestation. Yeah. Whoa. This is the prosecutor.
Starting point is 01:19:04 The family is suffering through what we refer to as the dynamics of sexual abuse. this kind of horrible molestation. Yeah. Whoa, this is the prosecutor. The family is suffering through what we refer to as the dynamics of sexual abuse. Yikes. He said his representatives of the victim were in accord with the plea agreement and added it keeps the girl from having to go through the trauma of a trial. That's what they're trying to avoid
Starting point is 01:19:20 is having some poor fucking 10-year-old have to go testify to stuff that's going to make her very uncomfortable, obviously. Holy shit. They said, quote, this is the prosecutor, we feel the public under the circumstances will be protected. All right. They said they'll get a pre-sentence report before deciding what kind of sentence to ask the judge to impose.
Starting point is 01:19:42 The attorney said he would suspect that the girl's family wants northway to be sent to prison for as long as the judge could send him um but his coach his former coach davis his hair is just a silver mane at this point how silver haired fucking middle-aged white man can you get to fucking be like no it's fine's fine. He said that, wow. He said it would be terrible if Northway were sent to prison. Is that right? Yep. He said, he's somebody you'd rather have out on the streets than in jail.
Starting point is 01:20:14 You'd rather have him in the community. That's his quote. What? You'd rather have him in the community around a bunch of nine-year-olds. In the desert where there's lots of pools. Tons of them. You know where there aren't any nine-year-olds you know where they're in the desert where there's lots of pools tons of them you know you know where there aren't any nine-year-olds in a prison prison that's there's zero nine-year-olds there yeah at all so like not even allowed to really i don't think they swim much either not a lot of swimming i mean there's a
Starting point is 01:20:38 pool but you know it's pretty dirty the chlorine levels are never right the ph is off none of the guys like it too much some blood can you imagine if there was a pool just drownings every day oh jesus so he i'll repeat that he's somebody you'd rather have on the streets than in jail you'd rather have him in the community they're saying he said northway quote is very active in his church and always trying to help people. Stop. Dude, no. Stop helping anybody. Stop helping people.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yeah. Back it, back it, back it up. Quote, he's an Olympic athlete, but he never acted like that. He was always so down to earth about everything. Yeah, makes it easier to diddle people when you're down to earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Makes it easier to diddle people when you're down there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Yeah. Wow. He described Northway as helping, caring and hardworking and also a man who was God fearing. Well, I'd rather he feared that nine year old's fucking parents than God, honestly, at this point, because apparently that's for him seems to be more. Indeed. Important. This is fucking ridiculous so um the coach also said that northway was often around children because he coached them in swimming but added he's never had any reason to suspect northway would be capable of child molestation not even once huh
Starting point is 01:21:56 well i have one and that's that he pled guilty in court to it other than that i don't know who knows who knows what people do that's enough for me oh. Oh, my God. Chrissy Amon, who is the Olympic gold medalist who has been, I guess, helping him coach or coaching against him, said she met Northway through the Olympics. And she said, quote, he was a great coach and a great family man. I think it's a shame something like this happened. Wow. It didn't happen. He did it. What parts is she upset that happened the the sentence or the or the molestation that's what i mean it's a shame something like
Starting point is 01:22:34 this happened doesn't that's really hedging it that's not saying i i'm fucking grossed out that he did this that's what i'm horrified that there is a victim of this it's a shame that a nine-year-old had to go through that that really sucks that would be a good thing to say she said no he's a great coach and a family man it's just a shame at all it's a shame his life is ruined over this oh she said he's been coaching for a long time and a lot of kids have chosen to swim with him when they had other options so i think it says a lot for him no it doesn't no it's for the most part child molesters aren't sneering drooling fucking maniacs who hide behind bushes and scare the shit out of your kids yeah they're guys that can bait children to come spend
Starting point is 01:23:18 time with them they're guys who can shape shift into a real fun. Yeah. They look trustworthy. They look like a good dad. That's going to let's go out for ice cream. Hey, I'll show you. Yeah. Fucking freestyle. Fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:32 That's so fun. His version of freestyle is much different with the kids in a pool. Yeah. It should be. So she said she doesn't believe Northway's case will have an effect in the world of swimming. It fucking should. It should have a sprawling circle like yeah other things should be investigated because of it exactly let's make sure she said there's 2,000
Starting point is 01:23:52 swimmers in tucson when you add up the clubs high school teams and college teams we're a drug-free program i don't give a fuck about i hate when people do that that's like ashton kutcher and mila mila coonis fucking writing that letter. Half of that letter about Danny Masterson was about he hated drugs and told us all not to do drugs. Who gives a fuck? I'd rather have someone do drugs and not rape people, wouldn't you? I'd rather he say, do tons of drugs, man, but don't rape people. Try these mushrooms, guys, because rape is bad.
Starting point is 01:24:22 We're unbelievable. We're a drug-free program that's you just said it right there drugs don't have anything to do with child molestation right you're you're talking about an environment that is welcoming to children yeah right people will say like oh well you know they're drug-free so that means they're not child molesters no that means they aren't not are but that means they could be because they're not trying to hide in plain sight. They're telling you they are. We're drug and alcohol free around here.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Yeah, because so are the Teletubbies. And that's what brings children in. Yes. All this happy shit. You never hear about swimmers getting in trouble with the law for the most part. I just think it's too bad that this would happen to anybody. She's talking about him, not the kid. Yeah. She's saying, I think it's too bad that this would happen to anybody oh she's talking about him not the kid yeah she's saying i think it's too bad this would happen to him i believe too bad too
Starting point is 01:25:11 bad his life is going to be affected for this yep she never mentions the victim never mentions the kids there's a baby nothing any of that shit you suck fucking there's a baby that's 11 now so for two years she's been suffering. You fucking jerk. But no. It's a shame. It was too bad this would happen to anybody. June 21st 1997 here.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Yeah. Jesus Christ. He said this is a sentencing quote. I love how they they quote him as Northway, a licensed minister. He said this to the victim in court. I cannot express in words how sorry I am. There's not a day that goes by that I don't feel for you. I pray for you and will continue to pray for you.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Oh my God, if I was her fucking father, the bailiffs would have to tackle me as I fucking. Pray for yourself, man. Rip his ears off and choke him with them as I shove them down his throat. I guess that means he's praying for her to, or him to heal. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you pray for me? Don't tell me that.
Starting point is 01:26:19 That's useless. Do you ever think of my fucking daughter again? I will rip your skull off of your fucking body and spike it on the ground like a touchdown football. You shouldn't be allowed to. You shouldn't be allowed to be sitting around fantasizing and thinking of my daughter being in good spirits or my son, whichever you touched. None of it. So, wow. Yeah, he pleads guilty, like we said.
Starting point is 01:26:41 The girl was, we found out now, the girl was his neighbor. Oh, shit. his fucking neighbor oh yeah no he's a coach an olympian and a minister no problem yeah you can hang out with him that's literally the guy down the block that has the olympic medal i'm i'm i'm disgusted right now now here um well they give him you sir yeah may fuck off four months in jail get out of here four months in jail and uh four months oh wait no yeah four months in addition to the jail time four months of house arrest afterwards and lifetime probation okay so eight months in lifetime eight months in lifetime yeah the judge also ordered the former swim coach to have no contact with children that's good and until he completes
Starting point is 01:27:31 counseling no unsupervised contact with his own three children even oh you can't even see them until you go to counseling he will have to register as a sex offender and may have to pay up to ten thousand dollars in restitution to the girls' families as well. Not bad. The judge sealed the pre-sentence report, keeping secret information about Northway's family history and his statements about the offense. I'd love to know what the fuck that is. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:27:57 He's pursuing his master's degree. They're saying, Northway, his voice cracking, told the judge yesterday that he succumbed to, quote, this is disgusting oh god jesus a moment of weakness oh that means to me that says that he's thought about it so much so much so much that just that one moment i succumb a moment of weakness so and don't like i keep it at bay yeah i keep it don't use the word succumb
Starting point is 01:28:26 when you're talking about fucking children or never have the last letters c-u-m next to each other yeah in a row succumb to a moment of weakness i am disgusting moment of weakness that means i had i kept just fucking kept the fires just when I need them. I stuck my fucking fingers in the dam here all over the place. Yikes. Holy shit. For one moment. One moment of weakness.
Starting point is 01:28:55 The mother of the victim, she got to speak as well here, she said that the swimmer had fooled people into thinking he was a, quote, perfect all-american guy yeah yep she said it hurts so much because she's so young meaning her daughter the victim's family and northway's family had been close friends up until the night that the girl uh curled up on her mother's lap and told her about the molestation the mother said she said she had to do this in court the mother reported Northway to authorities. Good.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Immediately, because they're, you know, normal people. The mother and deputy county attorney Howard Fell asked the judge to sentence Northway to a year in jail and intensive counseling. The Northway's attorney argued that the Northway was genuinely remorseful and just should receive probation. He said he's sorry. You know, Doug has indicated time and time again how horribly he feels about what he did to the girl. That's what the lawyer says. I would hope he would say that out loud. It was an isolated, aberrant act.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Bullshit. What? Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. What? Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Yeah. If you're attracted to adults, you never look at a kid ever for one second and go, you know what? That's looking good.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Right. Never. It just doesn't happen because your brain doesn't go there. It just doesn't. It's not attractive to you because you want to fuck an adult who wants to fuck you back like an adult. Right. Yeah. This is.
Starting point is 01:30:26 to fuck you back like an adult right yeah this is that that he's either been fighting this for a long time or perhaps perhaps he was molested as a child that's what i mean they sealed the sentence report that said that has had family history in it so that could just mean in pre-sentencing reports they do like your your life of story so it could just mean regular stuff about his family or it could mean what happened to him as a kid right but if he's a swimmer it was okay yeah it was in swimming yeah it's highly possible that he got diddled back in the in the 60s and the 50s who knows what the fuck you know these coaches were i don't know what they wore back then i imagine very small clothing yeah well when they would swim meets against each other like like intramural meets on the team, it was shirts versus skins. So it was, you know, it was shorts versus balls is what they called it, though.
Starting point is 01:31:11 It's thongs or nuts. Nuts, that's all it was. So isolated aberrant act. This is not likely to happen again and hasn't happened in the past. So in his entire life. Not likely. Not likely. And he never, ever did it before he just this little girl just drove him to the brink of insanity um since the molestation
Starting point is 01:31:33 allegations became public he's lost not only his community or standing in the community but also his wife and three children two boys and one girl who moved to new zealand they left the country. They fucking left the day. They're over the international date line. They're like, we're going to tomorrow. We can't even deal with this shit. We want opposite seasons.
Starting point is 01:31:54 When he's celebrating, yeah. When it's hot for him, it'll be cold for us. That's how far away from him. When it's Tuesday for him, it's Wednesday for us. We don't want any part of this motherfucker. That's wild. We are going to get out of the day he's in. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:32:09 We want out of the calendar square. Yeah, we're not in the same calendar square. That is fucking amazing. Yeah, the prosecutor said, or his lawyer said, he's thrown away everything he's achieved. Yes. The judge said that while Northway may be sorry, his actions cannot be ignored. Despite all the remorse in the world, there's a price to be paid, the judge said. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:33 About 50 of Doug's family and friends came to the courtroom offering their support. Oh, these people. What are they? Why? And none of them are his wife and kids. So, yeah, they're a different country. Wow. In addition, the judge said he received about 50 letters of support of giving Northway probation.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Who signs their name to a letter that says, please give this child molester probation? Please don't put this child molester behind bars. Un-fucking-believable. behind bars unbelievable and my street address wow that's remarkable social security number it's to court maybe you have to do that friend michael scalise said he believed the sentence was fair um the northway's lawyer said once northway leaves jail he has several job prospects who wouldn't want to hire a child molester including working for an airline what there's no kids ever fly yeah jesus christ put him in an old folks home there's no kids there you know what i mean put him in a hospice care he'll be so disappointed his dick will be
Starting point is 01:33:39 won't get hard ever ever the opposite of what you like here you go what the fuck man so yeah i can't i don't even know what to say about that so right under this article this article was kind of you know curled up in her mother's arms and told her about being molested all this shit directly connected to this fucking article not even a space by anything is an ad that says quote are you experiencing oh boy are you experiencing impotence or sexual dysfunction oh my god if so it's because you just read an article about child molestation right now i don't want to anything to do with my dick. Just don't want to fuck kids, man. No, please.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Your dick shouldn't work around these fucking kids. It said, if so, we can help with new FDA approved treatment for impotence. So here we go. Call today for a free private consultation. I would hope it's private. Yeah. Right out in the parking lot. We'll take a look at your cock.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Hope it's not a public consultation. Come on. They're flicking it. They bring in an attractive nurse. Huh? No? All right. Well, look.
Starting point is 01:34:54 It's not moving. Nothing's working. I don't know. And also under this is ads for trial studies for drugs for an oral contraceptive and a herpy pill. Like a dental dam? No, no, a pill. Like a medication. Oral contraceptive?
Starting point is 01:35:15 Oral is like a pill. Another kind of pill. A pill that can block all the diseases? Yeah, birth control. No, this is one for a birth control pill and one for a herpes pill. Nice. Right under this. Gross.
Starting point is 01:35:28 So, yeah, dicks, herpes, this poor kid. Valtrex, limp dicks, and babies being molested. And Cialis. Perfect. Jesus. So, what has he been up to lately since then? You can find him on LinkedIn. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:35:44 He is Doug Northway, owner at doug northway no business listed just doug northway says he went to u of a and it's him and um yeah has 150 followers 149 connections it says the other thing net worth wise as we know these are yeah you know shaky at best it says and this is it seems like ai wrote this shit the paragraph above it like that uh like the ad for our show in that one weekend magazine that said we were a play like a play the fuck um doug northway net worth doug is one of the richest swimmer from canada he's not from canada no one of the richest swimmers california exactly that's i mean it seems like such ai shit according to our analysis wikipedia forbes and business insider
Starting point is 01:36:34 doug northway's net worth is five million dollars there's no way right a fucking a guy who is hoping to make 15 grand on the marathon circuit unless he went into some investing or some shit like that and somehow figured it out but unless the bronze medal of a child molester is worth five million dollars that's i can't imagine what the fuck that is um yeah we don't know what he's doing but and i saved these people for the end because i didn't want anyone to be confused that may be the same person but i really feel bad for doug northway oh you poor son of a bitch maintenance controller at cargo jet airways in ontario canada oh my god yes so even ontario you look it up it comes up as far as i know he's diddled no one this poor poor man. Doug Northway, residential faculty, director of accounting and banking and finance at Phoenix College in Buckeye, Arizona, too. So he's an Arizona Doug Northway.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Oh, my God. That is not great here. So that's Doug Northway. But what we have here, while we're on the subject of Olympic swimmers, because there's not a lot. Swimmers generally don't do anything that bad. Swimmers are usually from rich families because to be able to put a kid in the pool all the time at that level. To be around bodies of water that were pooled on purpose. Lessons.
Starting point is 01:37:59 There's not a lot of Tonya Harding stories in swimming, really. Her mom took her there after a long night of working at the honky-tonk, dropped her off in the morning. We don't hear that very often. We had a lot of Tanya Hardings in the sport she was in. No, very few. That's why she was interesting. It's her and Bobak.
Starting point is 01:38:16 That's about it. That's it. Antony James, an English swimmer. Antony, no H here. James, an English swimmer. Anthony, no H here. He was a former Olympic British swimmer who was a two-time Commonwealth Games medalist facing multiple sexual abuse charges, including rape. This is from September 7, 2023.
Starting point is 01:38:38 This just happened. He appeared before a judge where he's charged with a total of 21 offenses, He appeared before a judge where he's charged with a total of 21 offenses, including multiple counts of rape and sexual activity with girls under the age of 16. Oh, my God. What the fuck is happening with these fucking swimmers? They're just going to drop him into the ocean, right? And let him swim home. Might as well. Fuck them.
Starting point is 01:39:01 The charges reportedly took place between 2012 and 2022. He did this for 10 years, Jimmy. 10 years. Allegedly. He hasn't gone to trial yet. Good Lord. 10 years they're saying he did this for. He recently worked as a student officer with Devon and Cornwall Police in southwest England.
Starting point is 01:39:20 He was to be around the kids. The department said he was suspended following his initial arrest and no longer an employee of the force. The charges include three counts of rape of a woman 16 years of age or over. Two counts of engaging in non
Starting point is 01:39:40 penetrative sexual activity with a female 13 to 15 years. Okay. Two counts of engaging in penetrative sexual activity. What? With a female age 13 to 15. Good Lord.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Two counts of causing slash inciting a female age 13 to 15 to engage in non-penetrative sexual activity three counts of intentionally encouraging slash assisting in the commission of a rape two counts of causing a child aged 13 to 15 to watch slash look at an image of sexual activity yeah showed her porn oh my god what are you fucking doing engaging in controlling slash coercive behavior engaging in sexual communication with a child three counts of possession of an indecent photograph slash pseudo photograph of a child in other words i think that could be digital man yeah two counts of assault occasionally occasioning actual bodily harm he this is horrible obviously that's like 20 counts that's like 20 counts and it seems
Starting point is 01:40:53 like it is with three women over the age of 16 and two between 13 and 15 over a 10-year period this is horrific obviously um no pleas were entered, and James was granted conditional bail. Wow. He represented Great Britain on home soil at the 2012 Olympic Games in London, placing 32nd in the men's 100 butterfly. How many people are there swimming? I have to know this. How many participate? Well, there's one from every team, right?
Starting point is 01:41:26 No, because they have to. It can't be, because that would be, there's like 200 countries. So that would be a lot of pools. I'm looking this up because I have to know. How many people in an Olympic 100-meter butterfly event? I have to know. Okay, come on, internet. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:41:43 How many? How many swimmers in an Olympic race? Olympic butterfly, though. Butterfly. What was it? How many meters was it? 100? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:00 100. At the majority of swimming competitions, there are far more than 10 swimmers in each event. Far more than 10, but that doesn't tell you. 32 has to be. Competitors, 66 from 51 nations. Wow. So he is dead in the middle of the pack. Not very good.
Starting point is 01:42:17 No. Very mediocre. Yeah. He made his international, well, at swimming. At molesting kids, he's a gold medalist apparently. Oh, he's'm killing it. Allegedly. James made his international debut at the 2009 short course championships in Istanbul,
Starting point is 01:42:32 placing seventh in the 100 butterfly. And he followed up by making individual. I don't care about him. He's a fucking asshole. He'll next appear in court to plea for a plea and case management hearing today he's pleading today as we record this he's right now he's pleading he's going to court so oh maybe next week we'll have an update for you on this guy because i want to know what's going on with this guy because he seems like a real scumbag and these swimmers his name have anthony james
Starting point is 01:43:02 these swingers these swingers these swimmers swingers, these swimmers are swingers. These swimmers are swingers, Jimmy. They seem to have access to children. Yeah. Olympic athletes always have access to children because they can be around kids and coach them and parents listen to whatever he says. Yeah. You know, and you'll get far. So that, everybody, is some creepy Olympic swimmers here.
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