Crime in Sports - #379 - Big Mouth, Bigger Bankruptcy - Warren Sapp

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

This week, we look at a man, who accomplished it all in the world of the NFL. He's a Super Bowl champ, defensive player of the year, and hall of famer. He also talked his way to being hated b...y a large percentage of fans, while taking some cheap shots, on the field. He also seems to be a little rough with the ladies, and apparently likes to renegotiate with escorts, which makes sense, since he somehow blew through $58 million in career earnings!! Dominate 3 sports in high school, have rumors of drug use drop your draft stock, then always seem to be at the center of some controversy with Warren Sapp!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:17 while really really wanting to get it correct so it's a passion it's a passion of his it's a he's been pursuing it for years now. It's amazing. If we ever stop this show, he's just going to be going through directories that he can find and just go, wow. I'll read the phone book. He doesn't care. So let's get into it this week with, like I said, a very famous person, Warren Sapp. Hey. We all know Warren Sapp if you watch any kind of football because he's on shows all the time.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah, they tend to take his opinion very heavily he's very forceful that's why yeah he's forceful and he's humongous yeah so if you're not like a football player and you're in the same room with him and he's next to you going i'm telling you this is gonna you're like yeah okay warren yeah sounds good he's like a giant man and you've seen him play so you play, so you know he's strong and shit. He played dirty for the Bucs, obviously. But then he went and joined the filthiest team in the league and continued to do the same shit there in Oakland.
Starting point is 00:05:17 He's known as a dirty player, mainly for one particular thing that he did. That Packers player, that offensive lineman that he absolutely blindsided on the other side of the field of something he didn't have to hit him and really fucking hurt the guy it was a jesus that was a mess um so warren carlos sap carlos carlos unexpected there is that right that was a shocker for me i I think. Named after the baby in The Hangover. Named after Santana, maybe. He was born December 19, 1972. So maybe his parents were just a huge fan of Black Magic Woman and couldn't help themselves.
Starting point is 00:06:00 19 what? 72. 72. I thought you said 92. Yeah, no, no, no, no definitely not he was in college by then yeah he's already playing so he's born in plymouth florida okay and uh he goes to high school in apopka apopka florida he's a big guy six two three hundred plus pounds and just a big nasty great player he is florida through and through isn't oh he? Oh, he's all Florida. Yeah, absolutely. Jesus. Florida to the nth degree here.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And when you look at his accolades, just to run down, I'm going to give you just his Wikipedia accolades where they have the career highlights and awards. Yeah, sure, sure. Super Bowl champion, defensive player of the year in 99, four-time first-team All-Pro, 99 through 2002, two-time second-team All-Pro, 97- 2002. Two-time second team All-Pro, 97-98. Seven-time Pro Bowler. NFL 1990s All-Decade Team. NFL 2000s All-Decade Team. Jesus. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ring of Honor, 99.
Starting point is 00:06:57 His number is retired by the Buccaneers. He was a national champion in 91 when he was a redshirt freshman. Won the Lombardi Award, which is a college award for best, I think, defensive player, I believe, in 1994. The Bronco Nagurski Trophy in 94. The Bob Willis Trophy in 94. Big East Defensive Player of the Year in 94. Unanimous All-American in 94. Second team All-American in 93.
Starting point is 00:07:23 He's nasty. Holy shit. It's a lot. It's a lot of stuff you know that's i mean he's won everything but the heisman for christ's sake and also the pro football hall of fame as well he is in the hall of oh absolutely yeah so i mean he's you can't you know only thing he didn't get was league mvp super bowl m and the Heisman. He got every fucking thing else. Which all of those are very, very hard to do from an interior defensive line position. If you're not a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Right. Yeah. I mean, if you're a defensive end and you have like 28 sacks or some crazy shit like that, you can maybe win it that way or something. But, you know, most of the time, if you're an interior lineman, you're not going to be an MVP, but you're going to be— Disrupting plays. You'll get noticed, but that's as far as it gets.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You might be MVP of your team. Yeah. They might vote you MVP. So his mother's name is Annie Roberts, and his father is unknown. Where the fuck did Sap come from? Don't know. We have a missing in action father here. Fascinating.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Which is, you know, we've had that quite a bit on Crime and Sports. Which could be good for a kid, like we said. At least he's not sticking around and beating the shit out of everybody within arm's reach, as we always say. Which is kind of the alternative here sometimes. So he's got five siblings as well. Is that right? It's not just him. He, like I said, went to a pop kahai, I guess it is.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I don't know. He's born, Plymouth is outside of Orlando. Oh. And his friends and family growing up called him Carlos, not Warren. Really? They called him Carlos. Yeah. As a kid, that's a much cooler name than Warren.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Carlos sounds cool. Carlos is like, you know, you're like an international terrorist. Carlos the Jackal was a cool you know he doesn't look like a carlos no he does certainly doesn't absolutely not but yeah they call him carlos he's the youngest of six kids and his mother you know raised him and by herself here in a in a tiny wooden yellow house on an unpaved road is what he said. That doesn't sound great at all. His mother would work three or four jobs. And yeah, he said, though, the hardships weren't bad for him as a kid.
Starting point is 00:09:33 No. He said, I had a very loving and caring mother. I had people around. I had a big family. I just took what I had and worked with it. Sometimes life deals you a dirty hand and you just have to rearrange it. Okay. That's him on the end end that's on the outside of it during it he was angry as fuck i guarantee it it also helps if you're enormous and an amazing world-class athlete something tells me that you
Starting point is 00:09:58 are most people if they're huge and are great athletes they're treated differently by people do things for them, treat them a little nicer. You know, they get a little easier. It's a little softer path for them. Try having that life, Warren, as a,
Starting point is 00:10:13 as a tiny white kid named Jimmy in a predominantly Latin neighborhood where they beat the shit out of you or a, or a fucking or dookie. You know what I mean? Yeah. Dookie from the wire, be a tiny skinny black kid in the same situation. Just be anybody who's not a, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be Dookie from the wire. Be a tiny, skinny black kid in the same situation. Just be anybody who's not an incredible.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Less athletic. Because, I mean, for his size, he's an insane athlete. Yeah. For a 300-pound guy to be able to move like he does is fucking bonkers. If you know people that are 6'2", 300 pounds, I bet you you wouldn't be scared to have a race against them. You know what I mean? This guy will kick your ass in a race. He'll chase you down.
Starting point is 00:10:49 From behind. From behind and leapfrog you. He's a serious, no-shit athlete. It's true, yeah. It's a different kind of story here. He holds school records there. When he played, he played linebacker, tight end, and kicker. Really?
Starting point is 00:11:04 He was kicking? Yeah, he was linebacker, tight end, and kicker. Really? He was kicking? Yeah, he was kicking. Everything. A lot of the star players back then would kick because they just did it better than everybody else because they're bigger and stronger. He holds the school record for sacks, tackles for a loss, and longest field goal. Really? Yeah. He also played on the basketball team as a power forward.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Jesus, that must have been. Oh, fucking hell. He backs you down. Who the hell played center? You're not getting back down. Man, he's like, talk about Charles Barkley. Plus some. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:11:36 That's incredible. In high school football, he tackled Johnny Damon in a game. Oh, really? And knocked him out with a concussion. Oh, that explains a lot. Future baseball player i was gonna say if you've seen johnny damon at all and go wow there's something missing there in his eyes it looks like something's off and even he even looks goofy hitting and everything and somehow
Starting point is 00:11:58 craig beat the shit out of the ball and you're like that part works but some other electrons aren't firing here the back of your skull when i look in your eyes yeah there's just something where you're just you're dreaming of somewhere right that's not here you feel daisy yeah you look like a someone who's in a miserable marriage and they're just daydreaming out the window how do you get away from here from I didn't get that shot from Warren. Yeah, that's the one. There you go. Carlos hit me hard. He also played third base for the high school baseball team as well.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Baseball, basketball, football. And set a team record with 24 homers in his junior year. Oh, I'm sure he did. Jesus Christ, he's so strong. Just by throwing weight behind it. Yeah, but in football, though, he's one of the best players in the state. That's where he's highly, highly recruited. And he knows he's got a serious future because he's offered scholarships by all the big schools. Right away.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And he decides University of Miami is the only place to go. It's a perfect spot for him. Especially in 91. Yeah. If it's 91 and you're a kid from Florida. Right. That's been watching them crush and win national championships and just have a big presence. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:13 Everybody knew about Miami. He was on that team, wasn't he? He was on the 91 team, but he was a red shirt. Red shirt? Got it. Okay. I think that's how that worked. he was a red shirt red shirt yeah okay i think that's how that worked he while a freshman he says he admitted to failing a quote drug exam is the way he put it which is hilarious
Starting point is 00:13:31 that sounds like he didn't know as much as he should have about drugs and then give him an exam and they're like nope nope that's actually he didn't know the slang term yeah for pcp well it was one of those things where they had the slang term and then the drug and you had to draw a line to cross the paper to him and he failed and he failed. He just wasn't good enough at it. They're like in my, at the university of Miami, you have to know drugs.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I'm sorry. You have to know drugs, slang for drugs. It's part of the program. Yeah. It's part of the program. Yeah. What can you name a drug?
Starting point is 00:14:01 You can put in a girl's drink. That'll just make her fall asleep without her really there. Oh, that's important at the University of Miami. They teach a class on that. Well done. Halcyon and THP. Good work.
Starting point is 00:14:12 There's a date rape class at University of Miami in the 90s, I believe. Wasn't there? I'm not positive about that. You got extra credit for Halcyon. We didn't think you knew that one. That's a good one. Lauren, wow, you spelled it correctly, too. Good job.
Starting point is 00:14:23 didn't think you knew that one that's a good lauren well you spelled it correctly too good job so he um he does very well in school though not really i'm sure in class i don't know but yeah he's huge he's god damn it he um he's big um he known for being huge and fast in sports illustrated they said he leaps over blockers reads lineman at a glance and runs an absurd 4.69 40 yard dash jesus christ for a guy that big that is yeah dangerous like i said fuck he will chase you down from behind like a bear like that's a fucking big man to be chasing you from behind that's a that's bad your receiver's running four fours off the line. He's only two-tenths of a second behind them coming at you. 300 pounds.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah. Yeah. Holy fuck. That's wild, man. So they said he's strong, smart, and bubbly. Okay. Bubbly is fun. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:15:22 So in college, he has a total of 176 tackles 19 and a half sacks um he goes to oh he was a 1994 heisman finalist by the way finalist one of the group they invite to new york yeah didn't win it but it was there that was crazy got to put a suit on and sit in the row which is pretty good jesus d lineman, the team went 11-1 and lost the Sugar Bowl to Alabama. All right. Then 93, they went 9-3, lost the Fiesta Bowl to U of A. That was a mess. 29-0, by the way.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Ouch. Jesus. They lost that one. Ray Lewis is on the team now, by the way. Okay. All right. So there's him. 1994.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah, there you go. Him and Sapp hanging out. 94, they go 10-2 and lose the Orange Bowl to Nebraska. He was there three years? Yeah, three years. Lost all the bowls and moved on. Doesn't have a single bowl game? Nope.
Starting point is 00:16:17 He decided to forego his senior year of college. He had one more year of eligibility, and he's going to enter the 95 draft. Okay. He wanted to do this. He said he was eager to help his family he said he didn't want his mom working three jobs anymore well he fucked around and you know screwed fucking sorority girls that's not thank florida blondes yeah it's not the same just banging trash from tampa that came down there he said quote i saw a way for my mother to retire. She's been working a long time.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I'm her last kid, her last shot, and I have an opportunity for her to kick up her feet and say, I don't have to go to work today if I don't want to. So not bad. He goes to the combine here, scouting combine, and does amazingly well. And sports writers start calling him a top five draft pick wow and everything you know i mean he's going to be a top five fucking draft pick not top fifth round top five top five overall which is a big paycheck up front you're gonna get a lot of guaranteed money that's a lot of mom's feet up yeah mom can kick it so the one thing that's funny is he's from this area and he said that he hate when he was a kid that area got tampa bay buccaneers games yeah
Starting point is 00:17:33 and he fucking hated them because they sucked and he hated them and he was like oh man the yucks i don't want i don't want it the yucks oh jesus he said it was he then that yucks. I don't want it. The yucks. Jesus. He said it was that yucks book that we talked about in a bonus episode. He said that around this time when he was a kid, he would pray every week. He was a Cowboys fan growing up. So he said every week he would pray that there would be some accident where the satellite would get messed up where the Bucs were playing, and they'd have to cut to the Cowboys game. But every damn week, when they were on the road, there they are, fucking Bucs. God damn it. And he said at the draft, he did not want to get drafted by the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:18:13 That was his number one don't want to go here team was Tampa because he's hated them for his whole life. And they were a disaster. In the mid-'90s, 95, they sucked. They were good in like 1978 or something, and that was it. And they've been terrible, the joke of the league. You know what they needed? What they needed was a real sturdy, fast interior defensive line.
Starting point is 00:18:38 That helps, yeah. Yeah. And they end up picking up Derek Brooks and all these guys, and oh, Jesus, when you have that. Then a couple weeks after the combine, when he's going to be a top five pick and all couldn't be looking better for Warren, there's all sorts of rumors surfacing that he had tested positive for cocaine and marijuana in college. He's doing coke, huh? I mean, it is Miami.
Starting point is 00:19:02 He's testing positive, so we don't know if we did it. It's Florida. Yeah. It's probably in the water there, I assume. Yeah. It's just a mess. It's in the chili at Wendy's. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. People keep getting attacked by sharks, and it's like, well, they're on Coke. Stop giving them Coke. That's the problem. There's a lot of Coke that's been dropped into that water. The sharks are all amped up. They're all eating bricks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Ah! Give me a surfer right now i don't give a shit so the report got leaked to the media from someone inside of the nfl they said so april 22nd 1995 there's an article that comes out that says there is seven alleged failed drug tests not for carlos a failed drug test old carlos here is carlos carlos con cocaine cocaine right now he's a bit of a problem cocaine carlos and siete uh drug tests yeah not good no bueno no bueno jesus carlos he um i mean they're saying he's going to be a top five pick. But now all of a sudden, you know, it's. It's looking bad.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's looking bad. Yeah. And so come draft day, he says, I'm just happy to get to this point. I'm happy now. And we'll move on from here. Guys will always try to knock you off a pedestal, but there's nothing you can do about it. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 They say the clubs were notified by league security that he had tested positive for marijuana six times, which who cares? Okay. If you tested me from the ages of 18 to 21, I would have tested positive 600 times. So it wouldn't have fucking mattered. And once for cocaine. There he's got me beat. I would have never tested positive for that. So, but hey, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:44 His agent was Drew Rosenhaus, that asshole. Oh, the fucking storied asshole. God, Jesus, he's a jerk-off. He was the guy standing next to Terrell Owens while he was doing sit-ups in his driveway, thinking it was a good idea. He vehemently denies this story.
Starting point is 00:20:59 There's no truth to that whatsoever, Rosenhaus said. I can't even tell you where this stuff is coming from. Well, I can. It came from NFL security that was notified by the NCAA, I believe, is where it came from. That's earlier in the article, Drew. It came from the pharmacy, Drew. Yeah, it came from somewhere.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Columbia, maybe, I'm thinking, possibly. Somebody must be making it up. You're looking at a guy that has had very few problems in the past. Now, yeah. Sap said, quote, I never had a problem at the university of Miami.
Starting point is 00:21:32 All of a sudden we're getting calls about this or that and everything's flying. It's just real tough right now. So, yeah. Well, that's the thing about our society too. They love,
Starting point is 00:21:43 they love to build somebody up because that teardown is fucking gorgeous to all of maybe that they miami didn't make a big deal out of it because he's such a great player and yeah they're kind of a sleazy certainly sleazy program yeah and certainly use him to get to fucking three straight bowl appearances that's what i mean but and this is also a thing that happens a lot in drafts for some reason yeah if one rumor gets out then it's just wildfire because that's what happened to Dan Marino when he dropped way down when he first came out. I mean, talent-wise, he's obviously not a 26th pick overall or whatever. People picked Todd Blackledge over him.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And the only reason was because there was all these drug rumors that he was doing all sorts of coke when he was at Pittsburgh. But in the end, it came out that he wasn't. The private investigators who investigated him, their report said he likes to party. He's a fun kid. He likes to drink beer. He might smoke a joint once in a while, we think, but he's definitely not selling cocaine.
Starting point is 00:22:56 They were saying he was selling coke and shit. They're like, we have no evidence he's hanging around with anybody who does coke or any kind of coke or anything. He just seems like a normal kid that likes to drink beer after the games with his friends. And that cost him. South Florida named this kid. Yeah. And that cost him so much money.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Like. Fuck. It's top 10 in the history of the NFL quarterback. Oh, yeah, for sure. Getting trashed like that. That's so fucked. It's fucking amazing. But it happens.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So Seth and his agent are denying the cocaine. Not at all, he said. But all they're denying is the cocaine. They're not saying anything about the weed. Which, who cares? Honestly, if you're, we're all adults here. If it's not like, you know, if he doesn't come to the interview stoned, I'm going, all right, well, you know, I don't really care what he does after work. That's his fucking business.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And if he doesn't come in just reeking like he just smoked in the car and if he does i don't know what his knees feel like at 300 pounds maybe that helps him i don't fucking know no idea ricky williams said it was good for him so he seemed to do well yeah i don't know he said if they drop me to 10th that's still more money than i've ever seen in my life it's still an opportunity to fulfill my dream of playing in the NFL. So if one team feels this incident makes me less of a player or the wrong kind of person for their franchise, to each his own. Well, that's a very mature way of looking at millions and millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah, you're dropping a lot. From 4 to 10 is a big drop here. So the 95 draft is here April 22nd and 3rd. And, okay, here we go. This is, by the way, just a little snapshot of the 95 season here. For 95, Offensive Rookie of the Year that year was Curtis Martin. Defensive Rookie turned out to be a great player for a long time defensive player of the year hugh douglas um was a defensive player obviously i think he's a linebacker um you have the offensive player of the year that year brett farve defensive player
Starting point is 00:24:57 of the year bryce pop the green bay linebacker wow he was nasty passing leader brett farve rushing leader emmett smith receiving leader jerry rice that's what unbelievable wow that's fucking awesome Wow. He was nasty. Passing leader, Brett Favre. Rushing leader, Emmitt Smith. Receiving leader, Jerry Rice. Unbelievable. Wow. That's fucking awesome. Number one overall pick, 1995, Jimmy. Randy Moss? Kajana Carter.
Starting point is 00:25:15 What? Yeah. Bengals? Randy Moss, when he got picked, I think it was 98 or 99, he dropped down because of all his bullshit. He was like, yeah, that's how the Vikings got him, like in the 20s. Kajana Carter, was that the Bengals? The Bengals running back, absolutely. Out of all his bullshit. He was like, yeah, that's how the Vikings got him in the 20s. John O'Connor, was that the Bengals? The Bengals running back, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Got a Penn State here. Another Penn State fucking bust. Blair Thomas before that just kept coming. Number two overall, though, is a Hall of Famer, Tony Buscelli. Oh, wow. Jacksonville's first franchise pick ever, and they picked a good one. Number three overall, Air McNair, baby. Steve McNair.
Starting point is 00:25:46 No kidding. Oh, rest in peace, motherfucker. Tennessee. Yeah, man. Michael Westbrook. Kerry Collins, number five, to Carolina. Oh, Jesus. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Man, look at all this. Joey Galloway. He's dropping this far? Number 10, San Francisco, is J.J. Stokes. Number 11, Minnesota, Derek Alexander, a defensive end they take. How far did he go, J.J. Stokes, No. 11, Minnesota, Derek Alexander, a defensive end they take. How far did he go, James? No. 12, Tampa, they pick Warren Sapp finally. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Oh, Jesus. He said 10 like worst-case scenario. He goes, even if I drop to 10, I mean, I'll be all right. 12 was even a thought. That's like the worst day of his life. Yeah. No. 12 and to the team, the least wanting to go to go to team yep the one i don't want to go to thanks so this is why i picked carrie collins carrie collins that was their first
Starting point is 00:26:34 overall pick what i mean for them he did well they got to a championship game the next year he was good for them he is but he turned out to be a serviceable fill-in, I think. Yeah, very mechanically sound. He was decent in the beginning, though, for a young guy like that. He wasn't bad, because that guy that they threw right into the fire next year in the championship game. Did he play for New York, too? He did, right? The Giants, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And Oakland. He played like he had a head injury the whole time. I think he was the quarterback when we got the shit stomped out of us by Baltimore in the Super Bowl in like 2000, whatever it was, too, or whatever the fuck. Mechanically sound, he looked great fundamentally. Just, fuck, man, that guy can't move for shit. And a goofy mouth on him, too. Big, stupid head. Later on in that draft, the Giants picked Tyrone Wheatley that year.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That was a great pick, guys. Nice work there. Yeah. Napoleon Kaufman, Rashawn Salam. Jesus Christ. Finally, 23, another Hall of Famer, Ty Law. Oh, shit. At 23.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And then Tampa doubles up in the first round. Really? This is one of the greatest defensive drafts since that early pittsburgh steelers draft in the early 70s when they got like jack lambert and joe green and fucking lc greenwood in one draft or whatever it was they get derrick brooks at number 28 tampa in the first round they got derrick brooks and warren sapp two hall of famers in the first round they got unbelievable that is not bad four hall of famers in the first round they got two Unbelievable. That is not bad. Four Hall of Famers in the first round and they got two of them. Pretty goddamn impressive by them. Good drafting. Cordell Stewart went that year in the second round.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Curtis Martin was a third rounder that year, by the way. Steel for the Jets. Steel for New England. New England got him first? New England got him for a few years first, yeah. He's a Hall of Famer, by the way. Not too shabby at all there i'm trying to look no more hall of famers so yeah he wasn't happy he was a little
Starting point is 00:28:29 upset warren he's a little bit pissed that's a lot of money that he just threw away only the most garbage franchise in the league will take me great um the nfl even quickly denied the cocaine allegation but apparently it was out there and once once it's out there, it's done. So he was upset, man. He was very upset. He said, I brought six people, my mom, my grandpa, my stepfather, my two brothers, and my aunt and my uncle. So it was seven, the lucky seven. The NFL from 1995 to 2013, this is later on, the money's gone up a little bit, so they have a couple extra expensive rooms on the corner for current draftees bringing over 20 people to New York.
Starting point is 00:29:08 They weren't passing invitations like that out in the day, so he apparently had to pay for some of his shit here. A bill for that, yeah. Yeah. So it's wild, man. Sapp said, you don't remember that 1995 draft? You don't remember Jets fans screaming, we want Sapp when they got Kyle Brady and booed him?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, Kyle, not a good choice. Could have had Sapp. You got Kyle Brady. Jesus. Taylor Swift is soaring high. Her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process.
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Starting point is 00:31:30 He wasn't in the room, but Dan Marino was the original stone dropping. And also, you only had to wait 11 picks to get to yours. Don't compare it to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers sat there with his big stupid face. Rodgers, Marino, those guys sat into the the randy moss they sat into the 20s waiting that's ugly you're still 12th overall so that's fucking two hours into this show for christ's sake they aaron rogers they cut to him every five second if you're like one of the people that can't stand him because he's a dildo, just watch the first round of the 1995 NFL draft,
Starting point is 00:32:08 and you just get to see a person's whole psyche fall apart over the course of two hours. Everything he thought he was crumbles before his very eyes. His whole image of himself, the people around him, seem to be not knowing how to console to console him at this point looking just looking for the hat that they're gonna hand him it just he goes from hopeful to at some point it just looks like well i'm never gonna get picked now he just looks like well it's over nobody wants me what which which is more embarrassing to drop that far in the first round or just go undrafted i think i'd rather go undrafted undrafted i think i'd rather go
Starting point is 00:32:45 undrafted that would be i think i'd rather be unpicked and just be like you know what fuck everybody if you're unpicked they're not going to cut to you every five seconds because you weren't supposed aaron rogers was supposed to be the number they were talking about him being the number one overall pick and he ended up going way low and it's like holy shit that's did he go 28 i had something like that yeah because it was the green bay who was yeah you know it was a they had at the time yeah they were deep deep in the playoffs i believe so not great it's great so that's fucking hilarious so they asked if he was a source of if this was a source of motivation during his career for Sap.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And he said, no, it's not. When you're sitting there watching your mother and grandma cry about the biggest lie ever told in front of your face in the world, nah. You really can't see past that moment right there as a 20 to 21-year-old. Anyone telling you they can is telling you a lie. He was pissed. Yeah. you they can is telling you a lie he was pissed yeah so he wanted to be he wore number 99 in honor of jerome brown the dead eagles player uh who was a tampa native and former university of miami player that's why he did that that's why i did it he died in the crash in 92 so he wore 99 for him
Starting point is 00:33:59 so 1995 tampa seven and nine with sam weich coast Weich. Can you remember him, Sam Weich? Yeah. As a fucking coach. I remember him as Cincinnati forever. I think he's, is he still, or is he dead? I think he died a few years ago. He might be dead. I think he died of cancer a little while ago.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He might be right. Yeah, Weich was a good coach for, he coached fucking Cincy forever. And then went to Tampa, and then I think he was was one other place and then kind of was like a – He was a mainstay in the NFL for so long. Yeah, he was around forever here. So this team, not much to talk about, honestly. It's really just a hodgepodge of shit, this team, 7-9. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:41 7-9 and, you know, just kind of a – It's not so bad. It's not so bad, but there's not a lot of. Casey Weldon was one of their quarterbacks. That was a Florida State guy. And was this when they had. I'm trying to think who they had here. Oh, Trent Dilfer started all the games.
Starting point is 00:34:59 That's right. Trent Dilfer. Wow. He was their number one pick the year before. Yeah. So Dilfer and they did better this year in the draft. So that's good. Good for them.
Starting point is 00:35:09 He starts eight games that year, Warren does. Really? He's in all 16, has an interception with a five-yard touchdown return, I guess. Wow. Down there, down in their end. Pick six on the five-yard line. Pick six on their five. So a forced fumble and three sacks
Starting point is 00:35:26 so not bad does pretty damn well not bad makes 390 000 salary but 2.3 million in a bonus that year okay so signing bonus that's so bad no uh next year 96 first year of tony dungy okay not bad he steps into having just drafted two hall of famers the year before that's good for him and then dungy's a great defensive coach so you're gonna end up with uh something there that team was all defense the one that won the super bowl and everything scoring grinding games grind your ass out so uh they're six and ten this year not amazing um if you remember those Tampa teams, they really weren't. Warren plays in 15 games, starts 14 of the games, has nine sacks and a forced fumble.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Pretty damn good for a defensive tackle. And they're still running the white and creamsicle, yes? Yes, until I believe 98, 99, somewhere around there. Before they got the pewter. So he had to wear the shit fucking jerseys. And he talked about how he hated those jerseys, too. It was like anybody but them. When he got drafted, he said he didn't want to go there.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He hated the Bucs, but his brother was a big Bucs fan and wanted him to get drafted by the Bucs. And he's like, stop wishing that shit on me. I don't want to go there. And then they were number 12, too. So he's like, well's like well i'm not gonna go 12 so i'm not going to the bucks and there he is bingo bingo he made 447 500 bucks that year um 1997 june 9th 1997 here um they um jesus christ we have uh uh have Warren with police here. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Apparently, he and his friend had 12.7 grams of marijuana. Wow, that's quite a bit, really. It's a half. Not even a half. Yeah, it's under a half. I mean, that's not bad. It's a misdemeanor charge. The police report, news report release even described it as a small amount
Starting point is 00:37:26 yeah is it an nfl player with that kind of money he could have had a lot more that's what i mean obviously that was just a couple yeah it's a few blunts and that's personal shit there that's all obviously yeah no one's yeah let's go out and make some money now ain't nobody move yeah let's do it i got three eighths let's do it. I got three eighths. Let's get it done. So they were just issued notice to appear tickets, and we had the weed taken from them. Then they drove away. They didn't even fucking arrest them or anything like that. So they're talking about in the paper, they said, quote, that's too bad, because until Saturday afternoon, Sapp, a nice kid kid the kind you end up pulling for had made
Starting point is 00:38:05 everybody forget the dark part of the day he was drafted that afternoon in 1995 when he slipped down the first round in several tax brackets because of nfl security report that linked him to several failed drug tests almost forgot about you know that one thing that thing that little thing it's very easy they really. They really wanted us to forget. Almost made us forget about that time where we remember everything. He plummeted like a stone in the draft. Sapp admitted to two positive tests for marijuana after the Bucs took a chance. He talked of proving people wrong about how Tampa Bay could test him five times a day.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Warren Sapp was positive about his future. My actions will show you. Saps were we? They say now. No. Warren Sapp did show us. He showed us so very much last season, his second. He led his football team in sacks and sass. Oh, for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Fucking reporters annoying. How many S words can you find? It wasn't hard to see a Pro Bowl in his future, and he led it in other ways. Draft day far behind him, he let his guard down. He was a savage tackle followed by an impish grin and a delicious quote. Jesus Christ. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Teammates rallied to that style and smile, as did cameras and notebooks. Who can forget Sapp after the bucks beat washington late last season quote we just opened a can of whoop ass on him there wasn't much to not like about warren sap and there still isn't he's just quoting wrestling at that point it's 97 it's perfect for that he's quoting steve austin now and fucking the rock which the rock played on the same they played together probably so that would make a lot of sense um he was going to help make the new Steve Austin now in fucking The Rock, which The Rock played on the same day. They played together probably, so that would make a lot of sense. He was going to help make the new Bucs something that the new Bucs never are.
Starting point is 00:39:53 The new Bucs. That's funny. Rich McKay would look smart and Tony Dungy would look righteous with whoop-ass Warren, and they still might. Who remembered positive tests? Who remembered draft day? Now the question has changed. Who doesn't remember?
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm going to remind you every paragraph. Then they talk about how Tony Dungy is. I'll just keep reading because this reporter is a dickbag. So it says, what must Dungy think? Not even a misdemeanor will sit well with Mr. Dungy, who now tests negative for any traces of Taiji Armstrong. And Sapp probably will face more testing with positives promising stiffer penalties than a drop in the draft bucket.
Starting point is 00:40:36 But that wasn't what you should cringe at. That wasn't what made you cringe at the news. No, you shook your head because anybody with 12.7 grams of sense wouldn't be in this fix. And Warren Sapp seems too smart to make the same mistake twice. That's a crying shame or a shaming crime. Give me a break. This guy's a fucking asshole. Pretentious. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Sanctimonious douche. Right? Jesus Christ. His actions will show us. Okay. Whatever. You're in Florida, man. How many people don't have weed on rake everybody you watch on patrol every single person they pull over has weed and they're just like just just dump it out and just put it on i don't care
Starting point is 00:41:15 throw it out yeah unless it's a trunk full like just it's too much we don't even have time for this shit even in south carolina they do that they're just grinding out we don't have time to take you all the way back to the station because you have a fucking dime bag in your fucking console. There was a moment there in sports, and we're probably still in it, but when a college kid gets busted for weed, and then as an adult and in his career playing as a professional athlete, any time they are caught anywhere near weed, it's like this big fucking deal. It's like, have you ever been high, man? Plus, players smoke weed. Yeah. In sports, they do.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Pretty much every one of them. They really do. They love weed. Yeah. It's just a thing. So what are we talking about here? We're going to all pretend like that's not a thing. I'm not even a giant smoker, but I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:42:06 When I do smoke, boy, do I love it. Yeah, it's wonderful. You guys say after the game, that shit helps take you down. Yeah. You can relax now. That calming shit, damn. You've gotten to a point that normal people never get to every game. The point of hype that these guys are for a fucking game,
Starting point is 00:42:24 you don't get that way in your everyday life. Nobody does. You're not required to every game. The point of hype that these guys are for a fucking game, you don't get that way in your everyday life. Nobody does. You're not required to. No. I mean, they have to get in like a fight or flight fucking crazy. Right. Like they live in the woods and they're going to fight animals like they have to be crazy. They got a gladiator moment for 48 fucking moments.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It's a long time. 60 minutes is a long time. moments for a long time 60 minutes is a long time so they said the bucks after this a few days later the bucks want all the facts before they take any action here they said the charge faced by him is relatively minor and the consequences in the in the judicial system would likely be insignificant if he's found guilty yeah get fined a hundred dollars or some shit it doesn't matter it's a misdemeanor so they're saying that that he could be facing a suspension and a fine if he pleads guilty or is convicted on a drug-related offense.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Jesus Christ. But the general manager, Rich McKay, said we kind of said to ourselves that we weren't going to worry about a possible suspension. We'll worry first about the issue of SAP and what's gone on here. Then we'll worry about that issue. Him and two other guys had less than a
Starting point is 00:43:26 half ounce of weed we are acting like they shot tupac like literally like fuck we got to get down to you know where were you were you in vegas in september more a couple of guys said i got five on it and yeah they went out to have you got a half a zone for christ's sake where were you on march 9th 1997 were you in la because the real crime did you do it the real crime is they probably bought a half and this is all they got it was probably that and the bag because that plus the bag is 14 grams a regular ziploc so there you go poor fucks got ripped off you guys you should be hunting down that guy that's a half minus a fat blunt. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Then maybe it might be high right now. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, they're making just such a big deal. They said, quote, I don't know all the facts. I don't even know what happened. I've learned over the course of being in the NFL, you don't always believe the first thing you hear. A lot of times when the facts come out, it's a lot different than what it appears to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:26 He said, Warren, I apologize to our fans and organization and any negative reflection on this that this incident may have had on our football team. It's three guys with a fucking some weed, man. Jesus Christ. This is ridiculous. It wasn't even him by himself. Right. Even if you portion that out to by thirds, that's terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:51 A little over an eighth a man. It's not very much. I travel with more than that. Oh, yes. That's what I mean. It's fucking ridiculous. Sapp is the second Bucs player charged with marijuana possession this offseason. Safety Melvin Johnson pled guilty to marijuana possession
Starting point is 00:45:06 and was fined $100 in Kentucky. Oh. Oh, boy. Jeez. So, who cares? 1997, the Bucs go 10-6. So, they turn it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Flip-flop it right around. They go to the playoffs, win a wild card game against the Detroit Lions. Yeah. And then they lose to the Green Bay Packers that year. Okay. We're going to win the Super Bowl. 21-7. I think they're going to go on to lose to Denver that year.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Well, it wasn't 97. 97 season. Yeah, they won the Super Bowl the 96 season. The Super Bowl was in 97, but they won that season. I think they won that one, and then the next year they lost to Denver. The Packers only won one. Right. It was 96 season into 97 is when they won.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Right, I'm saying they won that one and then lost to Denver the next season. This year. 97 season is when they lost. Yeah, this season they lost. Is that when they lost to Denver? Yeah, they went on and lost. Didn't they lose to Denver that year? I think they Is that when they lost to Denver? Yeah, they went on and lost. Didn't they lose to Denver that year? I think they won that season, lost to Denver the next one, and then Denver beat Atlanta in 98.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah, because Denver won two in a row. Yeah. They beat the Packers and then beat the Falcons in 98. 99? It was 99. 1999 was when the Super Bowl happened, but it was the 98th season. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Okay. All right. Yeah. Right. Okay. So I'm parsing time. Yeah, because it happens in February, so it's confusing. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this season, yeah, this was Packers going and losing to Denver this year. Got it. Okay. So that's what happened there. And as far as Warren goes, though, he's not terrible, has a good season, and he's very happy. September of 97 is Jerry Rice's hurt. Oh?
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah, the Niners will not ask the NFL to review the hit by Warren Sapp on Jerry Rice that resulted in a season-ending knee injury for Jerry Rice. You dick. Warren. You don't fuck up Jerry Rice, man. You hurt Jerry? You do not hurt Jerry Rice. You just don't dare you he had a streak of 189 consecutive starts jerry rice that was the hit that ruined that that's what broke his kneecap or whatever and then he fucking yeah and then he just fucking stopped after that fuck you know he played for fucking another eight years or something he played
Starting point is 00:47:21 for the raiders he played oh yeah He played for all sorts of people. Yeah, he moved around a lot. It was wild. So he had surgery to repair an anterior cruciate ACL and MCL. He got all fucked up here. So they said, we can expect to see Jerry playing in the future. He said, I don't feel Warren Sapp did it intentionally, Coach Steve Mariucci said. I like to give players who play aggressively the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I don't think he intentionally tried to rip his head off. It was a penalty. That happens in a game. It's just unfortunate. He was penalized for grabbing Rice's face mask after snuffing a reverse in the second quarter. And he was also partially responsible for knocking out Steve Young with a mild concussion. He knocked Steve Young out, grabbed Jerry's face mask, and then tore his MCL and ACL? Yeah. He was playing reckless that day, willing to hurt anybody.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah. Jesus Christ. Sap sacked Young, and then Young was hit in the head by Hardy Nickerson's knee on the way down. That's what happened there. So that wasn't his fault. Sap said it was just unfortunate sometimes that things like that happen. So it's very fucking interesting. They said the weird thing is they're talking about Terrell Owens has to take
Starting point is 00:48:35 over for Jerry Rice now and he's a young guy. Is he ready to step up? It's pretty funny. It's fucking hilarious. So that's it. They're talking all about that. Uh, sap said,
Starting point is 00:48:46 I just played to a level. I expect me to, and the coaches expect me to my teammates look to me for energy. I said I was going to lead them. And if you say you're going to be the leader, you've got to put it on the field because nobody follows a talker. Coach Tony Dungy puts it to us this week. Don't be a talker,
Starting point is 00:49:03 be a leader. I've got one of the biggest mouths on the field, so I have to go out there and play. Okay. Not bad. So there you go. He said, oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, that's what he likes to do. He likes to do the throat slashing gesture.
Starting point is 00:49:18 That's his big thing I keep talking about. That was the thing. Cut the jugular, baby. He's the reason that they weren't allowed to do that. If they did that, they were penalized. Yeah, he kept doing it, which is another wrestling thing. It's fucking hilarious. It is, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yes, it absolutely is. I've been doing that for years. And he wrestled this son of a bitch. I think he's real into wrestling. He's the most WWF motherfucker to ever play. Well, a lot of people, athletes, see that and they go, oh, yeah, cut a promo. What am I doing? Yeah, say dumb shit and people will want to, yeah, they'll pay.
Starting point is 00:49:44 So he said, I've been waiting on this for a long time. I and people want to yeah they'll pay so he said i've been waiting on this for a long time i didn't want to let a game pass me by i look at the film from last year and i'm disgusted at what i see i was just yuck my whole life is i've been accustomed to taking over a game and i wasn't doing that i was spotty i told myself in the off season i didn't want that to happen again a lot of guys out there get things done, but I don't think any of them combines what I do on the run and the pass. I mean, John Randall's a hell of a pass rusher, but I don't think he plays the run the way I do. Then there are other guys like Sean Gilbert and Eric Swan, but I don't think they combine the way I play and my knowledge of the game. Maybe they do and maybe they don't. I'm going to let my numbers talk for me, but
Starting point is 00:50:24 personally, I don't think there's anyone out there who's better than I am. That's a second-year guy talking. That's fucking wild. That's wild. So this year he started 15 games. All 15 he played in. He had 10.5 sacks, which is great for a defensive tackle. Not bad at all.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Three forced fumbles and a fumble recovery. I mean, he plays like a motherfucker. That's star numbers. And he had three sacks in two playoff games that year, too. Not bad. Made $545,000 on the field. Jesus Christ, what a bargain. What a bargain.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And he marries in 1998. Things are going well. Got to get married. So he marries Jameko Vaughn in 1998. And that year they have a daughter as well. Oh, that's nice. Seems to be possibly why he got married, but you never know. And the daughter's named Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So 1998, they go 8-8, the Bucs. Took a little dive back here. And Warren, though, he's not taking any dives back. He starts all 16 games, seven sacks, two forced fumbles, a fumble recovery. Makes $1,950,000. He signed a new deal with also an $8,650,000 signing bonus to it. Oh, Jesus. Made himself $10.6 million in 1998.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Oh, shit. Pretty damn happy there. Not bad. Then, 1999, 11-5, the Bucs go. They win in the playoffs against the Redskins 14-13. This is when they would win ugly. These close games. Jason Taylor was there then, huh?
Starting point is 00:52:02 I think he was, yeah. He had to have been yeah they lose the conference championship game to the eventual champion rams remember that was their big surprise year 11 to 6 yuck wow that is oh and we're talking pre-two two-point conversion so there's a safety involved here oh dear christ what a boring fucking game that's a mess man and that's the greatest show on turf all the passing and they logged them up only get 11 points it's pretty impressive honestly so uh warren this year though and by the way this year he is defensive player of the year in the nfl really pro bowler and and first team all pro as well. Jesus. Twelve and a half
Starting point is 00:52:46 sacks. Two four. Four forced fumbles. Two fumble recoveries. He's a beast. He's just a beast. He's crushing it out there. Two million five hundred thousand dollar salary. Two million dollar bonus. Four and a half million. He's also a beast at the bank too. Doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Not bad. March 1st 2000. Oh. He and his his wife season yeah they birth a son uh-oh is it carlos warren carlos sap jr my friend here he is we call him carlos we call him carlos yeah um that is amazing 2000 they go 10 and 6 losing the wild card game to philly 21 to 3 there okay that's not there's no shame in that that was donovan nap that's shit they were good super bowl yeah they were nasty back then he's third in the defensive player of the year rankings he's a first team all pro pro bowler 16 and a half sacks out of the defensive tackle position which is pretty fucking impressive.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Not too shabby here at all. Makes $4,900,000 too. That's not too shabby either. He is stacking. Fuck, I will take that any day. 2001, nine and seven the Bucs. They get stomped in the wild card game 31 to nine by Philly. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Philly has got their fucking number that year um not bad so uh 2001 he has six sacks and he's a first team all pro and a pro bowler that year also two fumble recoveries and 4.2 million in the bank as well wow not terrible uh 2002 12 and 4 the team goes this is now under john gruden after tony dungy got shit canned when john got gifted the the easiest team to coach in the history of nfl have one of the best defensive teams ever enjoy make your fucking stake and fortune of being a genius with somebody else's team wow that is amazing yeah he's like george seaford part two over here he just got handed some shit barry switzer all over again incredible man just have a genius build you a team and then step in that's what gruden switzer all those guys did why did
Starting point is 00:54:56 why did dungy walk away did he just go to indie i think he got shit can because he lost twice and got stopped twice in a row in a wild cardcard game. Yeah, I guess that'll probably sting a little bit on the resume. They were looking to go to the next level, and he wasn't taking them there. You got Warren Sapp and Coleman still there, right? Oh, shit. He's got to be. I think so. This is a good team.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yeah, it's a very good team. They go 12-4 in 2002. That's when they're a great team they beat the niners 31-6 in the divisional round wow with terrell owens there huh get the revenge on the eagles 27-10 in the conference championship and then in a game we've talked much about see the barrett robbins episode they win the super bowl as a broncos fan watching the raiders get stomped all day was fantastic oh it was a that 48 21 doesn't say at all that was it wasn't even that that was garbage time some garbage time points that game was over in the second quarter over it was awesome that was a beating just a fucking drubbing so uh you know this is a mike allstock kishan johnson brad johnson
Starting point is 00:56:06 all these guys this is this is this team so yeah good goddamn team not too shabby november 24 2002 is the clifton hit here the chad clifton hit that's a he's a lineman for the packers and he gets taken off the field, carded off. He's going to be out for an extended period of time, if not the season. He has a severely sprained left hip. He was in the hospital after this, numbness in his arms and legs, possible spinal damage, all this type of shit. From down low.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah. Well, the injury was midway through the third quarter. Bucs cornerback Brian Kelly intercepted a deep pass from Favre, which will happen. Yeah. As he returned the ball along the left sideline, Clifton was nowhere fucking near the play. Not even in the play. He was watching it from the other side of the field. He's a lineman.
Starting point is 00:57:00 He's not going to go chase this fucking cornerback down on the other side of the field. Warren Sapp just came out of nowhere and fucking walloped him. And there's kind of an unspoken thing with guys in the NFL that you don't take cheap shots at people. Right. And if everybody's out of a play, you don't hit a guy who's not in the play. That's kind of a thing. And you can. You're allowed to.
Starting point is 00:57:22 It's legal, sure. But there's a certain, you just don't do it it's one of those things like you're a real dick it's kind of like player code like we could all fucking do that to each other and hurt each other and none of us can make a fucking living or we can all try not to kill each other when it's not necessary and if you do do that you better keep your head on a swivel because somebody's coming for you too someone's gonna be chop blocking your ass on the next fucking play here so he played on the field for 10 minutes cliff clifton did as he was attended to uh the medical staff he showed some movement in his extremities but was
Starting point is 00:57:54 then lifted off the ground on a backboard and everything's they didn't know what was wrong with him carted off in an ambulance and the whole fucking deal here so packers coach mike sherman approached sap this was caught on tv cameras after the game because they follow the coaches in the whole fucking deal here. So Packers coach Mike Sherman approached Sapp. This was caught on TV cameras after the game because they follow the coaches after the game and they go talk to each other. He went right to Sapp, Sherman did, and he said, that was a chicken shit play.
Starting point is 00:58:16 He went right in his face and said, that was a chicken shit play. And then Sapp screamed, you talk tough, put a jersey on. Yeah, beat up a coach. Oh my God. Which is funny. That's a that's a warren that's funny um then he called sherman a lying shit-eating hound okay he said if i was 25 years old and didn't have a kid and a conscience i would have given him an ass kicking right there in the 30-yard line is what Sapp said. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Sherman said the joviality that existed after the hit when a guy's lying on the ground with numbness in his legs and fingers, I just thought that wasn't appropriate for any NFL player. So he was like smiling about it? Yeah, they were just kind of fucking farting around on the field there. And I think that quote's from Sherman. If I was a 25-year-old that didn't have a kid in the conscience, I would have given him an ass-kicking on the 25-yard line. I think that's Sherman that said that. I hope that's Sherman because if Warren said that about –
Starting point is 00:59:13 He is 25 years old, but he does have a kid and maybe a conscience. I don't know. So that could go either way. November 26th here, he's apparently still fucked up now. He's in the hospital still, Clifton. Mike Sherman describes a massive collection of blood in his pelvis. Jesus. Where the front and back ligaments were separated.
Starting point is 00:59:38 What? Yes. Dude, he blindsided him, so he couldn't brace for it at all. He separated ligaments from the bone when you see the hit you're like oh jesus christ it's not cool right in the hip huh it's just fucking brent them in half because he didn't see it coming so you have to be able to you know have some uh sturdy yourself yeah uh man stevenson one of the players here he said uh when you're when you're out there on the field you need to be expecting something at all times.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Be on guard. When you relax like I did, that's when you can get hurt. He said, but as far as league legislation, I don't know what can be done about it. You can't really do anything about it. Like I said, that's a player code thing. That's all it is. Gruden called the block an aggressive play but thought that Sherman's aggressive actions were inappropriate. He said, he's a coach and he shouldn't be fucking running over and talking to people, which he shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:00:31 He should have ran over to Gruden and said, your guy's a chicken shit and you're a fucking chicken shit for keeping him in the game. Should be equal because it's not fair to run up to Warren Sapp, can't punch him in the face. You know, so that's not really fair. You walk up to the other coach and then it's a different story. You're both on equal ground. I mean, Sapp, he looks like an asshole if he pile drives the fucking. That's the managers of baseball teams throwing blows when the bench is clear. Let them fight each other.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Don't let your fucking ace pitcher drill Tommy Lasorda in the mouth. Throw a right hand. That's crazy. Yeah, you know, that's fucking wild. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that.
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Starting point is 01:01:55 It's an all new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. Judy Justice, only on Freebie. He said, nobody really wants to hurt somebody to end somebody's career. It's just one of those plays like, was it necessary?
Starting point is 01:02:15 You just need to be on guard at all times. That's Dwight Stevenson. Warren played like that, where it felt like he was trying to end careers. Yeah, he played very University of Miami football. Yeah, he did. That's what he played. That's the best way to describe it. I don't know how else to say it. That's Jerry Rice's fucking knee.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, but he's also a great fucking player. He's like Ndamukong Su. When you're a great player and you're willing to cut corners a little bit, that's fucking dangerous. And Donald the same way. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of guys like that. That guy's very similar.
Starting point is 01:02:51 You don't have to. You can impose your will on every play. But they're so competitive, they're going to try to get that edge. Whether they're in the play or not, they're trying to hurt somebody. And kind of to play devil's advocate to them if they were a smaller scrappier guy playing like that everybody would love them they'd fucking love him he'd be that what was his name in uh chicago in the early in the early 80s the um the safety in chicago that they named the fucking defense after because he the way he fucking came
Starting point is 01:03:22 in and threw himself at people i can can't remember. I don't recall. But that guy, if you're that guy, everybody, oh, look at him throwing his body around. But if you're 300 pounds, people go, you're a fucking scumbag. But you're playing the same way. You're going to hurt somebody. So, yeah, it's just because he's more skilled. So he remains in a Green Bay hospital November 29th now. He's been moved.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Clifton recovering from a sprained right pelvis and other complications. He spent two nights in a Tampa hospital and then was airlifted to Green Bay on Tuesday. Jesus. They said he's probably out for the rest of the season. He was really happy about getting a shower Wednesday night. He still hadn't had a shower from the middle of the football game.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Oh my. So he must have been disgusting he's got tampa florida sweat around his balls still got stinky salty tampa sweat on his nutsack that was his first one since the injury his coach said he's been very upbeat and positive jesus christ man um that's wild so of course everybody has opinions from this here yeah that's it so the my favorites are the editorials sent into the newspaper here. A guy that's never played football a day in his life. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:31 This is December 1st, 2002, the Tampa Bay Times. This is Patricia Firestone of Palm Harbor, Florida. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm a 63-year-old grandmother and great-grandmother who is sick of the Warren Sapp bashing. Oh, she's had enough. Oh, yeah. If people do not like Sapp's attitude off the field or his personality, then do not invite him to dinner.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He's a professional athlete, and all he owes his fans is to be the best he can be, which he does every game he plays. He's one of the reasons that I'm proud to be a Bucs fan. He is also invited to dinner at my home anytime. Thanks for the Super Bowl, Carlos. Yeah, thanks, Carlos. Then Dottie McQueen from Palm Harbor says... Oh, what did Dottie say? Dottie.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Dottie says, Warren Sapp is every mother's nightmare for what her child could become. Loud, obnoxious, pompous, condescending, and with no common sense. Also rich, too. You could retire, Dottie. And David come loud obnoxious pompous condescending and with no common sense also rich too you could you could retire dotty and uh david miller from lake park georgia says i have lost all respect for warren sapp hitting hitting an absolutely defenseless lineman is inexcusable uh it was a cheap shot something we would not expect from a pro bowl player. Get ready, Warren. You're a marked man.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Jesus Christ. This goes on. Mary Workman says he made a clean hit. He did not grab him and throw him to the ground or hit him in the back or spear him. He was doing his job as he did it well. Mike, this I actually agree with. Mike Sherman should have gone to John Gruden or even the NFL commissioner with his his complaint that i agree with that's mary workman via email oh getting fancy back then she fired up the hotmail for this one jesus christ they said another guy says the only legal thing
Starting point is 01:06:15 about warren sapp's hit on chad clifton was it met the nfl's definition of a block every other aspect of it was disgraceful sapp knew clifton wasn't looking wasn't a part of the play and wasn't expecting to be struck by a 300 pound missile sap's intent was to injure clifton and he carried it out that's that's fucking fair um yeah disgraceful exhibition all this type of shit he's a loudmouth cheap shot artist and buzz crabs says. Buzz Krabs is his name. Krabs from Hudson. December 5th, 2002. Clifton has not walked since his pelvis injury here.
Starting point is 01:06:54 It's been a while. Yeah, that's interesting. December 23rd, 2002. He apparently is skipping around. Is this skipping that he does? Warren is? Pre-game skipping. Yeah, during the warm-ups.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, with his headphones on. Yeah. He skipped among the Pittsburgh Steelers players as they warmed up. Now they made a rule that you can't. Since this, I think he's probably the reason why you can't pass a certain yard line now. Steelers running back Jerome Bettis shoved him, touching off a heated argument between the two teams. Yeah, stay out of our fucking area.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Get over to your side. Yep. Sapp was not fined, but he says, that's all this is about. In my nine years in the league, no one has been fined for verbally abusing officials. It's unprecedented. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:42 So he also said the Steelers were paper champions. Okay. He's very pissed off. Yeah. Yeah. So that year he has seven and a half sacks anyway. So whatever. Later on.
Starting point is 01:07:55 So 2003, they have two more children apparently. Really? No, no, no, not four. I'm sorry. They split and they have two children. They split up, him and his wife. I misread my own shit. Yeah, and he has two children.
Starting point is 01:08:08 So 2003, seven and nine the Bucs are. Not quite the same. They don't make the playoffs. It goes downhill from there. October 6, 2003, against the Colts on Monday Night Football. He is scolded for skipping through and disrupting the Colts, who were spread out on the field stretching during warm-ups fucking with dayton manning yeah he likes to do it on national television and this was also tony dungy making his return to oh okay yeah so uh october 12th
Starting point is 01:08:38 he says that uh quote they talk about him he drew a fifty thousand dollar fine apparently here um because he ran onto the field, bumped into an NFL referee, and drew the $50,000 fine. Yeah, you can't do that. Can't put up in the refs. He said, quote, it's a slave system. Make no mistake about it. Slave masters say you can't do it.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Don't do it. They'll make an example out of you. Okay. All right. I mean, listen, I'm not black and Jimmy's not black, so we can't really – Not a lot of comments I can make except I don't know many millionaire slaves. Well, I will say this. If you give me like $20 million over like four years –
Starting point is 01:09:20 You can tell me a lot of things not to do. You can tell me who not to bump into and I'll listen. That's all. Tell me a lot of things not to do. Like I tell me who not to bump into, and I'll listen. That's all. Tell me a lot of things not to do. Like I said, I'm not black. Maybe it's different. I don't know. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Like I said, the dynamics. The league's history is pretty fucking gross, let's be honest here. But in 2003, if you're a defensive lineman that's making a lot of money and is a Super Bowl hero, I mean, I don't know. Over a certain amount of time, I'll make a giant shade under $20 million. There's a lot of things. A big shade. That's a big shade.
Starting point is 01:09:54 That's a lot of shade you just shaded over there. It's in between what you're making and more than $20 million. There's a lot of rules I got to follow to get that tiny, minuscule amount of money. That's what I'm saying. And you better fucking believe I'm doing every last one of those rules. Yeah, we got to follow a lot of shit on here. Not one of them includes bumping into people, but guess what? I still won't bump into people.
Starting point is 01:10:15 It shows I don't ever bump into the sound guy. Just bump him, knock him over, and be like, what's up? That never happens. I'm knocking the stage manager off the stage. This is my stage that's right i own this motherfucker out i'm gonna go skip through a ti concert that's next door or something yeah it's a little odd to say that from your mansion is the only difference right because he's not talking about like less like affluent people who are being hurt by this or they pay non-star black players less like they used to do.
Starting point is 01:10:51 So that's not what he's complaining about. No. He's saying that they told me I'm not allowed to bump into a referee. What a slave system. Which is a completely different argument. I'm being whipped around here. Yeah. There's a lot of arguments to be made.
Starting point is 01:11:03 That's not the one for what he's talking about. Really castrated against your will there, Carlos. Oh, shit. That's wild. So October 13th, 2003 here. Yeah. Jesus Christ. They're trying to, apparently they're, now they love the uniforms, by the way.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Oh? Oh, yeah. Now they're into the pewter. Yeah, they love the uniforms, by the way. Oh? Oh, yeah. Now they're into the pewter. Yeah, they love the pewter. Warren Sapp said, for rotund individuals, a tailored fit in deep colors is the key to elongating your stems. Yeah, black is slimming. That's what you just said, you fucking jerk. Or dark pewter, whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah. Yeah. So, October 23rd,rd 2003 gruden is concerned about the perception of warren sapp all over the place it's the perception of him yeah he plans to talk to warren sapp oh he's gonna sit him down he's gonna sit him down here because he just why he doesn't like he said i think he's gonna tell him like there's a very easy way to not be perceived like you're being perceived and maybe you could do that you know gruden said honestly i didn't see him kick the pylon during pre-game warm-ups that was brought to my attention on the plane
Starting point is 01:12:10 after the game but i'll say this some players have certain ways of getting themselves ready to play i don't believe warren sapp disrespects football i don't believe he did it in a disrespectful manner i i've not talked to him about it since the incident but i look forward to it so he kicked over a pylon in the pre-game warm-ups versus the san francisco 49ers which they could easily put back they get knocked over multiple times a game but it's still you don't do it and he knows that he's doing it on purpose or did he do it just oh yeah no no he went by and kicked it i mean he didn't fucking yeah he wasn't like looking back and backed into it or something he fucking booted the goddamn thing.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So that's very, very interesting. Warren, though, says, or I'm sorry, Gruden says, we need to concentrate on what's going on between the lines. Although I am concerned about the image he's portrayed because he's a great player and he's great for the game. On the field, yeah, except for the cheap hits. I mean, he plays as hard as he fucking can. I got to give him that. He doesn't take plays off.
Starting point is 01:13:05 He's not one of those kind of guys at all. He earns his fucking money. So he said, no situations are alike. Two situations are alike anymore. Certainly, you're dealing with one of the more emotional people I've ever met. He's trying. Maybe in some ways, he's frustrated with the way this whole thing has been handled. I need to talk to him privately about this, but I'm going to be supportive of Warren.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Okay. Okay. Well, he's in the Pro Bowl this year. Doesn't have a great year, though. Only has five sacks this year. Still made the Pro Bowl with that, huh? Still made the Pro Bowl. That's kind of unnamed, though, I think, a lot of that.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Two forced fumbles, too. So pretty nasty. But he does make $6.6 million this year. Holy shit. Yeah. So far, he's made $39,78 million this year. Holy shit. Yeah. So far, he's made $39,782,500. And a Super Bowl ring. And a ring.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Man. Yup. 2004, he's reportedly interested in accepting a contract offer from the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh. For four years, worth $16 million. But then he announced, no, no, switched up, seven-year $36.6 million contract with the Oakland Raiders, who probably played against him in the Super Bowl and said,
Starting point is 01:14:16 Jesus Christ, we got to. We can get that guy on our side. Yep. He said, the bad news is I won't be back with the Bucs. The good news is I'm a Raider. Holy shit. He played with Jerry Rice after that shit yeah yeah they play i'm sure they played together oh my 2004 5 and 11 under norv turner yeah there um so there's that um yeah so uh this team here uh yes jerry rice on this team. Gary Collins, too.
Starting point is 01:14:46 At age 42. Was he on this one, Gary Collins? He had to be. Rich Gannon started a couple games on this one. Then Kerry. Not all of them, though. Kerry in after? Not all of them. Yeah, I think he came a little bit after because this is still when the Giants were getting rid of him, I think, here.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Okay. Probably. But he might have been on this team. So I'm looking through the roster right here now. Might as well. Probably. But he might have been on this team. So I'm looking through the roster right here now. Might as well. To find out if Kerry Collins is on this team. Death charted quarterback is all you got to look at, probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Kerry Collins. He's on that team. There he is. He started 13 games. Rich Gannon started three. Because Rich Gannon got sacked and fucked up his neck. And Kerry Collins filled in. Fucked up his weird neck.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Yeah. So this year, he has 16 games started and played, Warren does, with two and a half sacks, two fumble recoveries. Not exactly a huge year, but he makes $5.2 million overall with his signing bonus and everything. 2005. Jerry Rice played at 40 fucking two. I am 42.
Starting point is 01:15:42 There's no fucking way. This is, he's been playing wide receiver for 20 years i would never even think about putting that jersey on the crazy part is he was still really fucking good really good that's the other thing he was still really really good which was and and he still played his last game that he played was with denver in the preseason so he still plays at least another season yeah it's this is unbelievable he's insane that was at 42 uh this year they go 4 and 12 under Norv Turner yikes that is a disaster yeah that's Jimmy's favorite he's like yeah fuck you guys paid 36 million dollars for that to come here. So he has a shoulder injury this year.
Starting point is 01:16:27 They place him on IR November 26th. And they think he's going to be out for the season. Yeah, they put him on, shoulders torn up, fucked up, and torn rotator cuff. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's a bitch. Norv Turner said it's not a separation. No, they're just making sure in terms of the structure and everything inside.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I think we'll know something in a few days. So he makes $765,000 and a couple of bonuses for a total of $4.5 million this year. Not bad. Not bad at all. That's five sacks and a forced fumble. Not bad. bumble not bad now sap devin bush and a developer this year in 2006 created an urban solutions group to construct low-income housing in fort pierce florida oh the uh yeah the pnc bank loaned the group money but by 2008 the real estate market fell apart and the project ended up in failure oh no worst time to have a project going
Starting point is 01:17:26 is late 2006 it's a bad time even for low income that's brutal yeah 2006 raiders coach art shell back again christ he coached them in like 1990 for fuck's sake they brought him back where did he go to cleveland and then back to i don? I don't even remember. Don't remember. I don't remember. Their old defensive lineman there back in the day, or offensive lineman. He was a lineman of some kind in the 70s. 2006 Raiders go 2-14. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:55 That is a train wreck. Wow. Wow. That is really bad. They've just gotten worse every goddamn year. Jesus Christ. That's a disgrace. So, yeah. There you go. goddamn year. Jesus Christ. That's a disgrace.
Starting point is 01:18:06 So, yeah, there you go. They suck. Completely suck. Warren has 10 sacks this year, though starts all 16 games. So got his shoulder fixed up, feeling good. Makes himself $4.6 million also. Wow. The only person doing well on this team.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Fuck yeah. He's happy. I don't know what you guys are bitching about. I feel good. 2007 season, he loses 49 pounds before the season that's right i remember this all slim and trim yeah uh doesn't help the team any as they have lane kiffin as their coach now they go 4 and 12 under that famous disaster two extra wins two extra wins for this idiot. So, Dante Culpepper starts some games a quarterback for him this year. Remember that? Josh McCown starts some games a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:18:51 These are dark times for the Raiders here. They have a guy named Oren O'Neal. Really? Those two names don't go together for me. Was this when they had that really great kicker, that punter? Maybe a couple seasons later. Doesn't matter. Janikowski was there for years. He was there still? Yeah, yeah.ter? Maybe a couple seasons later. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Janikowski was there for years. He was there still? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was there. 2006 is... No, he came in in 2000, so he's been there for years. Yeah, this is... He's right in the middle of getting fat and being comfortable and all that. Also in 2007, their draft pick was, number one overall, Jamarcus Russell, baby.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Oh, shit! That big fat one overall jamarcus russell baby oh shit that big fat load jamarcus russell and his famous one of the biggest draft probably right i think he is money wise boy did they tout like he was gonna be their savior a number one overall quarterback gets fucking paid yeah so i mean that's crazy december 23rd 2007 here uh he gets ejected after an altercation with the officials near the end of the second quarter in a game at jacksonville okay yeah the incident began when linesman that's the referee jerry bergman mistakenly assumed that the Raiders would decline a 10-yard Jaguar penalty. Sapp, the defensive captain, shot back at the referee
Starting point is 01:20:10 that the Raiders wanted to accept the penalty. The conversation became heated with Sapp gesturing and swearing, provoking Boger to flag him for unsportsmanlike conduct. Yeah. So Sapp and the rest of the Raiders continued to mouth off to the officials, resulting in a second unsportsmanlike conduct. Yeah. So the rest of the SAP and the rest of the Raiders started to continue to mouth off to the officials, resulting in a second unsportsmanlike conduct against SAP and a third one against teammate,
Starting point is 01:20:31 Derek Burgess. Finally, the coaches ran onto the field and started to separate the players from the officials. And the ref claims that SAP bumped him in the process. SAP denies any physical contact, but either way, he then levied a third unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against Sapp and ejected him. That's an ejection, yep.
Starting point is 01:20:51 League fined him $75,000. $25,000 each for each unsportsmanlike conduct. Oh, my God. That's a lot of money, actually. That hurts. He got a hat trick of... That's not good. No.
Starting point is 01:21:04 And this will be the end of his career this year. Is that right? Starts all 16 games, has two sacks, two forced fumbles, his contract's up. Altogether, his money, $58,982,500 he makes in his career. Oh, my. Has 96 and a half sacks, which is pretty damn good, and 188 games started. 19 forced fumbles is pretty damn good, too. He's a fucking great player, but there you go.
Starting point is 01:21:37 2007, he was named to the Florida High School Association All-Century Team, comprising the top 33 players in a hundred years of high school football in florida son of a bitch not bad a lot of players came out of florida so that's not bad so march 3rd 2080 officially retires from the nfl he was one of only 12 defensive players in nfl history to make the pro bowl be named defensive player of the Year, and win a Super Bowl in the same, or pre-Super Bowl NFL title back in the day, in the same season. So, not bad. The others are, this is pretty good names here, Mean Joe Green, Jack Lambert, Mel Blunt,
Starting point is 01:22:16 Lester Hayes, Mike Singletary, Lawrence Taylor, Bob Sanders, Deion Sanders, Reggie White, Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson, and Derek Brooks, Michael Strahan, James Harrison, Ed Reed, bob sanders deon sanders reggie white ray lewis rod woodson and derrick brooks michael strahan james harrison ed reed troy palomalu uh charles woodson terrell suggs stephen gilmore and aaron donald those are on everybody you know every great defensive player ever pretty much all the great ones aaron donald is the most recent huh look at yeah yeah he's the most recent good for him august 19th 2008 sap is hired as a studio analyst for inside the nfl on showtime okay we'll do that till 2011 in uh fall 2008 he appears as a contestant on the seventh season of dancing with the Stars. Is that right? Yes, that's amazing. Who the fuck wants to watch that?
Starting point is 01:23:07 With dancer Kim Johnson, they made it to the finals where they were named runner-up of season seven. Who beat them? I don't know. I got to look it up. But they're football players because Emmitt Smith did well.
Starting point is 01:23:19 They're all footwork. Everything they do is footwork. Watch the summer training camp. All they're doing is footwork. All they do is footwork when you watch a watch like a uh the summer you know like a training camp yeah all they're doing is footwork through this footwork all they do is footwork they can remember steps they know everything is two steps this way once yeah that's what that's what i mean they're really good so this is dancing with the stars we're looking this bad boy out seven i want to know who beat him it's got to be i'll bet it's fucking jennifer gray or some shit somebody that actually wish it was jerry rice that would have been my favorite that would be hilarious yeah
Starting point is 01:23:50 on his bad knee he's like my knees feeling good they put it back together real nice no shit all right let's see uh dancing with the stars i got it right here okay so um the winners were what the fuck that's season 31 oh jesus don't want that i saw tiktok star i was like tiktok didn't exist in fucking 2000 okay here we go 2005 i don't know who these people are um wow that trophy is hideous looking so it's a big fucking ball isn't it it's a big disco ball yeah cursive dancing with the stars right now it looks like he won it at a fair yeah you gotta fucking hammer a block drew lachey and cheryl bur. Nick Lachey's brother. Oh, God. Season 2006, Emmett Smith won 2006 with Cheryl Burke. And then 2007 season, but he was on four.
Starting point is 01:24:53 What season was he on? He was season 11. Hold on a second. He's season seven, I thought. Now I'm confused. Season seven, 2011. Season seven. Okay, that's why I was confused.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I'm like, what's going on here? Scroll, scroll, scroll. Sorry, everybody. I know this. Okay. That's why I was confused. I'm like, what's going on here? Scroll, scroll, scroll. Sorry, everybody. I know this is riveting. That's okay. This matters to me. I don't know why. This is riveting, I understand, but we still...
Starting point is 01:25:14 Jennifer Grey won in 2010. Okay, so the season before. Who won the second season? Season 12. Where the fuck is... Oh, there's season 10 there. It wasn't in 2000. Season 9 is 2009.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Oh. Season 7 is 2009. Oh. Season seven, Brooke Burke and Derek Hough. What? Yeah. Brooke Burke is that chick from E.T. or some shit like that? Yeah, one of those. Yeah. She talks to people.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Yeah, she talks to famous people. Yeah, hi. She dances with Derek Hough. How does it feel to win a Golden Globe is what she asks people all the time, probably, or something. It's very embarrassing that I know that she's the star derrick huff is the dancer i knew that i knew she was i remember nobody should know that as a man well i didn't know who derrick huff was but it's process of elimination knowing that she was a like a presenter on shows in the early 2000s i figured he was either married to or his sister is that uh other huff
Starting point is 01:26:06 chick who sings i think she's sick hot i don't know interesting yeah oh that yeah yeah the other you know i'm talking about yeah she's a dancer too she is a dancer dances the fuck around yeah that's why she's stunning jesus christ march 2009 he is at the Comedy Central roast of Larry the Cable Guy where he performs. Comedy? He got jokes, Jimmy. Comedy. Listen, Warren. He roasts to the guy that's got more money than him?
Starting point is 01:26:35 No shit. Listen, Warren, I'll stay off the field, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not trying to hit people, Warren. Stay the fuck off my stage. You're going to learn a valuable lesson, Warren, that this is not the place for you. I kind of want to watch his set just to fucking hate him more.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Yeah, I mean, whoever, someone wrote it for him. Yeah, he didn't write anything. No, that's the writing of those, not the performing of them. That was the fun part. How easy would it be to roast fucking Warren Sapp? That'd be great to have him on the day. Or Larry the Cable Guy also. Yeah, there's that too.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Jesus Christ. Roasting a guy. Roasting a fucking fictitious character. That's what I mean. Who are we roasting? We're not roasting you. We're roasting your overalls. That's it.
Starting point is 01:27:23 I'm roasting a man who has a billion dollars for not being himself. I'm just roasting a trucker hat at this point. That's all I'm doing. Sitting atop a pair of overalls. Like, what's happening? I'm roasting a fishing lure on a hat. That's it. That's all I'm roasting.
Starting point is 01:27:41 February 6th, 2010, Sapp has some problems here. He is in South Florida, and he is charged with domestic battery, which is not good. One count of misdemeanor domestic battery has to appear before a judge here. The NFL Network spokesman says, We have been made aware of the arrest of Warren Sapp by the Miami Beach Police Department. In light of the circumstances, Warren Sapp will not appear on the nfl network while we review the matter oh yeah um the allegation was reported that around noon saturday detectives interviewed sapp later that day the alleged physical altercation came against a female acquaintance and took place at 6 a.m oh my
Starting point is 01:28:22 yeah at the shore club Hotel where he was staying. That tells me that is after a long night. That's a long night. Yeah. That is not early morning. Yeah. The victim had a swollen knee and bruises on her neck, according to the arrest affidavit. She told detectives she was partying with Sapp and her friends
Starting point is 01:28:40 at the hotel and asked for his room key when she grew tired. Sapp reportedly woke up the victim a few hours later and they started to argue ah get up i want to argue with somebody i think i know that argument is yeah that's i want sex i want to sleep you're sleeping in my room yeah well if you're in my room we're gonna do this you can get the fuck out blah blah blah that's the argument this is coming from both sides. She told investigators that Sapp started to choke her and pushed her down on a couch.
Starting point is 01:29:09 That's extreme. Oh, boy. It seems like a bit much for that. Wow. That is a lot. Yeah. As the argument escalated, I think choking is pretty escalated. It's as escalated as it gets, usually. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I don't ever escalate an argument that much. That's far. Yeah. A lot. escalated as it gets usually from yeah i don't ever escalate an argument that much so it's a lot as it escalated sap grabbed her by her shirt and neck and threw her down again he told investigators he let her stay in his room but asked her to leave a few hours later he told police that the woman fell on her leg when he tried to help her get off a couch come here darling like it's his grandmother come here sweetie let me let me help you up you can see what's happening right that's yeah he's trying to
Starting point is 01:29:51 fuck throwing this woman around the room you know well he was i are upset that they weren't fucking something allegedly i don't know yeah a telephone message left for sap's attorney was not immediately returned um they said jesus um so there he is he's supposed to be doing that and he's going to be he also works for showtime no word from them yet but nfl network says x-nay on the on the pat say yeah carlos you're doing the wrong thing yeah um march 24 2010 charges dropped really prosecutors will not pursue domestic battery charges against him for being arrested there it was apparently faced one count of misdemeanor domestic battery but prosecutors decided to drop it because of inconsistencies between the victim statement
Starting point is 01:30:36 and the evidence including surveillance video according to the memo from the office after the arrest he was pulled from the network where he worked as an analyst and uh wasn't part of the coverage of the super bowl between the cults and saints because of that so it's not legal we can't do anything legally but uh professionally you're a dick yeah you don't look you don't look great here yeah march 22nd 2012 um sap is mad at Jeremy Shockey. Remember him? Oh, yeah. The tight end for the Giants. He was great.
Starting point is 01:31:09 He was a great player. They both played in Miami here. But he says that Jeremy Shockey is the whistleblower who alerted the league to New Orleans Saints bounty program. Yeah. The Saints got tons of fines. Yeah, I don't know if Sapp is the first to say that. Oh, to break that? Okay. Sapp first made the accusation on Twitter and later repeated his stance on the NFL network.
Starting point is 01:31:31 So he was putting it the fuck out there. He said he didn't receive his information from anyone in the league, but a trusted source close to the situation. Okay. Shockey adamantly denied this charge on Twitter as well. Shockey played for the saints in 2008 to 10 and caught the winning touchdown in the super bowl there so uh yeah so they apparently there's been an issue here uh former this is a shock he's been kind of drug through the mud lately here armani tumor former wide receiver there the teammate on the Giants. He called him a bad teammate and a worse person on Twitter talking about Shockey.
Starting point is 01:32:08 I mean, didn't Shockey, like, famously fuck other dudes' wives? Oh, he was a total. He's a complete piece of shit, right? He was Gronkowski before Gronkowski existed is what he was. But he was like. He didn't go full Gronkowski was the problem. But Gronk looks like a nice guy that wouldn't be a douche. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:32:27 He looks like he's not smart enough to be a douche. Right. And Shockey is just like, he's owning it. He is the most greasy, just a slimy man. Yeah. He's like, what's up? Yeah. What's up with your girlfriend and her sister?
Starting point is 01:32:43 What's up? Is that your wife, bro? What if I fingered her? Would that be all right with you? Would that be cool with you? I would not foot it past Shockey to say that. I guarantee you he said those words before. While he was already fingering her.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Oh, yeah, yeah. Is that cool? Is it cool if I put two in? Is this all right, bro? Is this all right, bro? March 27th, 2012, Shockey might sue over the snitch claim oh yeah he's um an nfl source said he's hell-bent on doing something that something could be the filing of a lawsuit okay who knows man jesus christ which you know what fucking they shouldn't have been doing the bounty shit even
Starting point is 01:33:23 though people have been doing that the entire history of the league it's still when you're dealing with guys when they're making six million dollars a year and you're gonna fuck up their knee right you're on another level it's not like it used to be where the guys played in the 60s that is 50s they played and they had a job in the off season this was like half their job this wasn't like oh i'm gonna make fucking you know generational wealth type of shit here that's not a different story and they're a fucking brand like everything about them matters to something else everything well if you're gonna have a demolition derby you have a bunch of fucking raggedy cars you don't put ferraris in there and these guys are fucking ferraris now
Starting point is 01:33:59 basically and they're paid like ferraris and and they should, you know, take cheap shots. Anyway, April 7, 2012, the Associated Press reports that Sapp has filed for bankruptcy in an effort to discharge debt from his failed businesses. Oh, okay. One of those. In these Chapter 7 filings, he claimed to have lost his University of Miami championship rings and his buccaneer
Starting point is 01:34:25 super bowl ring warren i don't know if he lost them just doesn't know where he put them or lost them as far as into debtors they're between the fucking center console and his driver's seat because he's gotta have them checking my couch cushions i don't remember where i put that shit wow um yeah so april 11 2012 there's a whole big story about he is, you know, here is how you fuck up your NFL money, basically, is Warren Sapp. This is how you piss away 60 mil? Yep. They said that this is TMZ, according to them. Sapp made an estimated 40 million during his football career.
Starting point is 01:35:00 That's without bonuses, I think. And now he's 6.7 million in debt. How? That's without bonuses, I think. And now he's $6.7 million in debt. How? That's wild, man. They said he's simply the latest in a long line of sad financial stories. They talked about Allen Iverson going bankrupt, despite accumulating $154 million in his career. He's got big Reebok money still coming to him, though.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Okay. He can borrow against that because he's got like a $30 million balloon payment coming at, or $50 million balloon payment coming in 2030 from Reebok. Oh, God, I can't get here fast enough. They deferred it. Yeah. But, I mean, you could always borrow against that, too. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Yeah, yeah. You could do that. That helps. But, I mean, then you got no money when it comes. You better make sure you pay that right up front. You know what I mean? Right when you get it. Yeah. Right when you fucking you pay that right up front. You know what I mean? Right when you get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Right when you fucking get it. Oh, boy. See, this is dumb here because they say Iverson's financial missteps include paying for a personal hairstylist to travel from New Jersey just to braid his cornrows two or three times a week. This is one of those bullshit things that they put in the press to try to. That sounds extravagant and all that kind of shit. But that doesn't lose you $154 dollars like a thousand dollars exactly that's nothing and he can write that the fuck off because he's going on television selling himself that's his hair grooming is part of that he can write that off so that's not why he's broke that's hair and makeup
Starting point is 01:36:20 he's yes he's got 50 phones out there somewhere. That's what's costing him money. He pays monthly. Wasn't he the one who had a car that he just said, just take it. I don't care. It was like a fucking $200,000 car. And the cop pulled him over. He's like, I don't fucking care. Just keep it.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Unbelievable. I believe that. It might not have been him. But I mean, that'll blow your money. Not fucking. But think about who that irks. He brought in someone to make his cornrows twice a week of course he's fucking broke you know you see the guy of course yeah yes it's exactly
Starting point is 01:36:54 of their whoever their readership is my stepfather who would loathe alan iverson and every time he said he hated something i'm like that's gotta. That's got to be why he hates it. It's so fucking cool. Jesus. On top of being obsessed about the current state of his hair, Iverson would go on road trips while playing for the 76ers without any luggage. Why? Because you can always buy clothes. Okay, but you're talking.
Starting point is 01:37:20 It's not $150 million. It's how it goes away. It's not $150 million. That's how it goes away. As a result, Iverson owes $860,000 to a jeweler, and he's currently out of money as well as diamonds, it says here. Jesus Christ. That $860,000 to a jeweler, that's where the money went. That's a lot of money. That's easy.
Starting point is 01:37:37 So you don't need to spend there. $6.45 million in assets will be liquidated, including 240 pairs of Jordan shoes worth over $6,000, which they're worth way more now. Way more, yeah. A watch worth $2,250, which for an NFL player is not an expensive watch. That's a pretty shitty watch, yeah. He's wearing a citizen. I mean, more than twice as nice as what I wear, I'll tell you that much. But an NFL player wears like a thirty thousand dollar watch normally a rug made of lion skin worth twelve hundred dollars and of course an infamous
Starting point is 01:38:11 large painting of a nude woman which she got sold off at auction as well oh my god that's fucking wild as fans we should we choose to buy a warren sapp jersey or a ticket to a game but it's troubling to hear about pro athletes losing the fortune they acquired partly from the pockets of sports fans. Now they're going to connect this to we should feel mad at them for this now? He lost your money, James. Jesus Christ. When I bought a ticket to a game, I didn't say, now I want that back someday, Warren. It's his money. Better spend my want that back someday, Warren. It's his money.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Better spend my money fucking responsibly, Warren. Carlos, I'm watching you. This is a man who, if children play in front of his house in the street, he screams at them. Shut up with the joy. This person's an asshole. Jesus Christ. We need to watch their spending and make sure they're doing it responsibly. These are men that go to strip clubs with paper bags full of cash.
Starting point is 01:39:13 The money that they spend is crazy. It's fucking ridiculous. You can't babysit these grown men. If they throw it away, they throw it away. It's not on me. It's not my money at that it's not my fucking problem that's what i'm saying why are we counting more money thank you exactly why are we counting this her money on the pole why are we getting anybody's money once i give it to you yeah it's not up to me what you do with it yeah jesus i hope you spend it responsibly i hope your kids go to college but if they don't
Starting point is 01:39:45 don't come back no or look at it as entertaining to watch somebody made so much money piss it away and scramble to get it back i don't know fuck it look at it like it's on television which it is who knows pretty funny so they said despite not being particularly insightful as an analyst sap has been making 45 000 a month before it was reported that the nfl network would let him go after his filing for bankruptcy became public sap has been making more money in a month than the average u.s teacher makes in a year why are they trying to make us so mad at him they really want us to be personally angry at him for some reason and i don't know why i'm not angry at him i don't care i don't't know why. I'm not angry at him. I don't care about his money.
Starting point is 01:40:25 I don't care if he makes a dollar. Not my problem. Really isn't. April 14, 2012, from the Tampa Bay Times, bankruptcy details. And this is where we find out a lot of details about him that we didn't know publicly. Because in the bankruptcy, you have to put a lot in there. You have to disclose. You bet.
Starting point is 01:40:43 So they said there's revealing contents of his 59 page chapter seven filings. His creditors include his ex-wife, the four other women with whom he's had children. Oh, Carlos. Carlos. How many does he have? Six. Carlos, the horn dog over here. At least six children.
Starting point is 01:41:05 At least six children that we know of. We have four other women, too, with her. The Internal Revenue Service, banks and attorneys all over the country, and friends who loaned him money. He has a checking account with $826.04 in it. He has a savings account with $339.31 in it. His current debts tally up to $6.7 million. No small task for a man who signed three NFL contracts totaling $77 million and who won't turn 40 until December.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Oh my God, he's 39. He's 39. Oh, $6 million is that? That's $1,200 to his name. Wow. That is... Holy shit. How did he do it?
Starting point is 01:41:45 The filing tells the tale. Here we go. Sap has an 18,000 square foot mansion in the Orlando area in the neighborhood of Windermere, which is apparently very, any neighborhood that has an 18,000 square foot mansion is a pretty exclusive place, I assume. That's where his ex-wife lives. Oh, shit. Oh, man. yeah that's where his ex-wife lives oh shit oh man he also has a 33rd floor luxury condo in
Starting point is 01:42:10 hollywood beach that's where he lives and where his attorney chad pugatch of florida fort lauderdale had an appraiser go to make a list of his stuff and that hollywood place that's down on the other side of florida hollywood Beach is way the fuck down there. Getting away. Even the four local bankruptcy attorneys, the Tampa Bay Times asked to review the file, chuckled a little at the detailed itemization of the detritus of the ex-athlete's existence. Lion statue. Lion rug. Fancy Swiss de Grisogano watch. I don't know
Starting point is 01:42:45 fancy watches. I know I've heard of Rolex. I don't know things. We're not, so I don't buy watches like that. That's probably why. A Louis Vuitton suitcase with wheels. PlayStation video games. Xbox video games. A television with a 58 inch screen.
Starting point is 01:43:02 An estimated 240 pairs of Jordan brand sneakers and sandals. Most of them still in their boxes. Many What? Yeah, that's interesting. The attorneys who looked at the filing quickly focused instead on more critical points. Filed Chapter 7, the most drastic bankruptcy alternative that requires the sale of assets to pay off debts. This doesn't really protect shit. He did say they because he did. He did this, they say, because he's trying to say that his debts are mostly business debts, not consumer debts.
Starting point is 01:43:38 If that's true, it doesn't matter that he still brings in large chunks of cash. Forty five thousand a month to be an analyst. Appearance fees, money from publishers for a forthcoming book. Well, what he gets on a monthly basis fluctuates, but it's still kind of a hefty income that typically would disqualify someone from Chapter 7 candidacy. Wow. According to a filing, he makes on the average of $115,881 a month. He makes on the average of $115,881 a month. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:11 He's making that kind of money and he made fucking $70 million? He should be fine. Yeah. $58 million should get you through. For sure. His attorney says Warren filed because of business debts. There's no question in my mind he qualifies for Chapter 7. He lists no credit card debt, for instance, which is a common form of consumer debt. He also has no car debt.
Starting point is 01:44:30 He shows no cars at all. He and his attorney have labeled as business debt the $90,685 he owes to national car rental, the co-debtor being 99 LLC, describing the filing as an artist management business. Oh boy. Some of the lawyers of the times talked to think he'll be able to stay in chapter seven. Some think he can't, he can't file chapter 13, which allows repayment over time because he has too much debt. He might end up having to file chapter 11 and some of them say, and the terms of this repayment plan would probably be less advantageous it's up to the court to decide here so yeah i guess apparently um lately pnc bank took 33 333 dollars straight out of his nfl network paycheck in december and in january and in february and in march um then he filed his shit so they would stop doing that.
Starting point is 01:45:25 So that's what he said. A St. Petersburg bankruptcy lawyer said, I can hear him screaming to his lawyer, enough is enough. So, yeah, he had two business partners in a company called Urban Solutions Group, which we talked about here, which was Devin Bush, who's a former NFL player, and it was a failure. Bush said, they gave us a loan so we could purchase more lots. The real estate market started going into the tank.
Starting point is 01:45:52 PNC sued the company and won a judgment of $988,691.99 there. So Sapp's attorney said, were it not for the judgment and other debts created by that deal, he would certainly not be facing what he's facing now. Sapp said, this was the only way I could get out. So he divorced in 98. He owes his wife alimony and child support. And 90 days before he filed, he made four payments to his ex-wife, $16,000, $25,000, $25,000, $9,000. That left him owing $876,000. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:46:34 His payments to her are so high in large part because they were set at a time when he was at the apex of his earnings. Right. They were set when he was making fucking $7 million a year. They said, um, this happens a lot of times. They said, if you're an athlete,
Starting point is 01:46:48 your income is front loaded and you said all these things, then you have to get them. You have to go to court afterwards and get them to fucking put down because they're not, he's not going to make that forever. So, um, he has four other children with four other women,
Starting point is 01:47:01 by the way, Jesus, Warren has a 14 year old son, a 14 year old daughter, a 12 year old daughter, an 11 year old son, a 10 year old son, has a 14-year-old son, a 14-year-old daughter, a 12-year-old daughter, an 11-year-old son, a 10-year-old son, and a 3-year-old son. Holy shit. He owes Akilah Atkins of Los Angeles $4,000 a month.
Starting point is 01:47:16 He owes Angela Sanders of Wichita, Kansas $2,500 a month. He owes Sarah Matt Lamothe Kindred of Hiram, Georgia $2,500 a month. He owes Sarah Matt Lamothe Kindred of Hiram, Georgia, $2,500 a month. He also owes the New Jersey Family Support Center $6,495 a month. That's an intermediary for payments for a child he fathered with former Temple basketball player Chantel Atkins. This guy. That's a lot. Think about that.
Starting point is 01:47:44 $6,525, $2,525, $4, lot. Think about that. 65, 25, 25, 4. Think about that. That's 15 grand. 15 and change a grand a fucking month just on that. Oh dear Lord. And that's not his wife and kids. Those are the fucking superfluous kids here. And then he's got the child
Starting point is 01:47:59 support and alimony of the other two and her. Yeah. Living in an 18,000 square foot house that he's paying for. He can't even pay his alimony of the other two and her yeah that's living in an 18 000 square foot house that he's paying for he can't even pay his alimony and child support by being a commentator he's not gonna make that money and that's only he's only doing that job for four months yeah that's holy shit they said before the bankruptcy he was up to date with at least these four payments is what his lawyer said his combined monthly alimony and support payments to his ex-wife and the other women who care for his children are, you ready for this total, Jimmy, per month?
Starting point is 01:48:32 Oh, God damn it. $75,495 a month. Oh, my God. A month. I would never fuck again. I would definitely. Never fuck again. I would definitely. Never fuck again. I would cut it off.
Starting point is 01:48:46 The allure of ladies would certainly be. It would not be. Nothing makes me horny. Not their fault, but that's going to cost me. You know what I mean? I am so sorry, but vagina turns me off. Oh, man. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:49:00 No, not going to work. Not going to do this anymore. Oh, Jesus. That's going to cost me so much later, I'm telling you. Oh, God. Later, I know what it's going to cost. He owes $68,738 in property taxes on the mansion his wife lives in, ex-wife. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Yeah, he owes $87,775 from his 2010 taxes. Got to pay that. Oh, Jesus, Warren. from his 2010 taxes. Gotta pay that. Oh, Jesus, Warren. But a big number in the filing is an IRS bill for $853,003 from 2006,
Starting point is 01:49:32 two years after he signed that big contract. That's listed differently as an unsecured, non-priority claim, and Sapp and his attorney also checked the amount as contingent,
Starting point is 01:49:42 unliquidated, and disputed, and they're fighting it. You need to fight the IRS. attorney also checked the amount as contingent, liquidated and disputed and they're fighting it. So they're going to fight. Apparently you can, you can file because they tried to tell me for something that I didn't get. It took a year,
Starting point is 01:49:56 but I didn't pay it. But if you didn't pay an entire year's taxes, he's not going to win that fight. Yeah. Well, one guy here who's a Tampa bankruptcy attorney said that the amount is ripe for discharge. He said he won't have to pay a dollar to the IRS for that $3,853,000 is his assumption. He says it might look like he simply didn't pay his taxes, but those taxes are disputed.
Starting point is 01:50:22 So he was supposed to pay more than that. Got it. And he's saying that that, yeah. They said certain taxes, if they're old enough, could qualify, I guess, to make them go away here. Jesus, how long do you have to do that for? Yeah, how long do you have to dodge the IRS before they wash it? He owes money to attorneys in North Carolina, Alabama, New York, and Florida. He owes a speech therapy practice in Orlando money. alabama new york and florida he owes a speech therapy practice in orlando money he owes people listed as friends including 28 000 to the senior vice president at sony who's a friend of his really
Starting point is 01:50:53 yeah he's probably not going to pay them back or he might but the court's not going to force him to on those he's gonna have to pay his tax bills and his child support they're not going away shit like that um he has an NFL annuity. He has a pension. He has that sort of thing. He has life insurance policies totaling about $3 million. He has prepaid college funds, although it has in it $103,861,
Starting point is 01:51:16 which is for six kids. That's a little weak for that. They're not going to college. It's fucking wild. It's a lot going on here. They said, will he be able to stay in Chapter 7? Will he get to free himself of the 2006 tax bill? Will there be an auction on his stuff?
Starting point is 01:51:35 Who wouldn't want a decanter that belonged to Warren Sapp? Could the court make him autograph some of the items on the appraisal report to try to boost what they might fetch? That's fucking funny. So, yeah, he he's coming out he's doing all this um he's called himself a king though king of what call it well somebody said why do you have a lion skin rug and he said because i'm i'm a king okay so yeah all right this is this is crazy do you feel bad for warren sapp no no he brought all of this upon himself and i'm not angry at him neither no no it's none of my fucking business he deserves it yeah that's it i mean you can feel bad for him honestly you really could i mean but just for having his name not nearly as bad as i feel for warren sapp maintenance technician at roanoke
Starting point is 01:52:27 development in the roanoke development housing authority this poor bastard jesus christ probably doesn't know anybody anything he's two and five doesn't have anything warren sapp rehabilitation technician at promises in kansas there and finally stephanie warren sapp what at Promises in Kansas. There. And finally, Stephanie Warren Sapp. What? Who works at Kroger in Goodlettsville, Tennessee. I wonder if it's his daughter. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Who knows? Stephanie Warren Sapp. That's wild, man. Hyphenated? No, Warren Sapp. That's her middle name. Stephanie Warren Sapp. Maybe they were big fans.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Her parents? I'm not sure. That's the only name. Stephanie Warren Sapp. Maybe they were big fans, her parents. I'm not sure. That's the only thing I can think of. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, she's been a manager. No, she's been with the company for 35 years. She's old enough. Oh, Jesus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:15 It's got to be a hyphenated name, right? Maybe they named him after her. I don't know. I'm sure it is. Big fan of the meat department gal. But on her LinkedIn, it's not hyphenated so i'm going off of that but i'm sure it is hyphenated that makes more sense i want it to be her middle name yeah that'd be great july 25th 2012 he's still defending his hit on chad clifton is that right
Starting point is 01:53:39 yep in his book sap attack he says that um, he wishes he could change the outcome of the tackle he made on Jerry Rice that knocked him out. He said, I found out later that season that Jerry Rice was upset that I hadn't called him at the hospital to apologize. He said, apologize? You don't apologize for a clean hit. I had absolutely nothing to apologize for, but I was very sorry he was hurt. Wow. Why are you so sorry? for but i was very sorry he was hurt well he uh are you so sorry yeah he also said he's you know he's fine about the chad the clinton hit clifton hit not upset about it he said that um he liked
Starting point is 01:54:14 the trash talk with brett farve back and forth uh-huh and um he says that he receives death threats because of that hit uh ron clifton Still. That is a rabid fan base. You don't fuck with the Packers. They have nothing else to do up there. Yeah, there is nothing there. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, it's not a lot going on. So he says that no hit he had in his career was more bigger or more controversial than the Clifton hit.
Starting point is 01:54:40 He said it wasn't the hardest. It definitely wasn't the hardest, but it was in the open field and got caught on TV, and people never stopped talking about it.'t the hardest. It definitely wasn't the hardest, but it was in the open field and got caught on TV and people never stopped talking about it. Yeah, that's how it works. I mean, and Dominic and Sue stomped on people. That's what they fucking talk about. People saw. He said on television, it appeared like I came across the field and blindsided Clifton, who didn't even look like he was in the play.
Starting point is 01:55:03 And then I did a little dance to celebrate that hit. That's what it looked like. That's what happened. I watched the fucking play. You can see it. There's no looking like it. I know it looked like I shot that guy, but I just came up and discharged a gun in his direction and then he fell down with a hole in his chest.
Starting point is 01:55:18 That doesn't mean I shot him. The fuck are you talking about? I hit a guy and then he danced? He did a dance. Like he just sacked the quarterback for hitting a guy who wasn't even paying attention, who wasn't in the play. He said basically the impression was that I had mugged an innocent bystander. Yeah. So he said when the defense intercepts you instinctively, the first thing you do is look for someone to block.
Starting point is 01:55:41 When the team is looking at the game films the next morning, trust me, everybody's going to be watching to see who got the biggest hit on the interception. If you don't hit someone after an interception, you're going to be called out in that room. Not the guy fucking on the other side. Maybe somebody that can make a play on the ball, but not just a dude. That's different.
Starting point is 01:56:02 He was just standing there. Sapp says the first player he looks to hit on an interception return is the quarterback because the protection he's granted by the rules is gone. It's like Superman meeting Kryptonite. He said, Favre took
Starting point is 01:56:17 one look at me and started running straight for the sideline. He knew that the safest place for him was out of bounds where he wasn't going to get hit and would survive to pass again. He said that since he couldn't block far, he went looking for the left tackle and then the center in that order. The most important people on the team, essentially. So he said it's common among offensive linemen in the NFL to have self-imposed fines for not being in the frame, according to Sack. He said what that means is that when the coaches are watching the game film, they pause when
Starting point is 01:56:46 a player is returning the interception and tackled, and every offensive lineman has to be in that freeze frame. He doesn't know if the Packers have that kind of a fine. He said, right after the interception, Clifton was not in the frame. He was loafing. So it's his fault?
Starting point is 01:57:03 After Brian made a couple of moves, I figured clifton had to be chasing him that's when i looked toward the sideline and saw him lottie dying the man was on the field of play in a national league football game he was a potential tackler if the guy stopped changed direction completely and ran directly toward him into his arms that's what that that's the only potential he had to make a tackle he, there's a reason my position is called defensive tackle rather than defensive blocker or defensive talker. My job
Starting point is 01:57:30 is to hit people, so I hit him. Hit him good. The way I had been taught, the way he would have hit me if he had the opportunity. I saved Clifton $1,500 for not being in the frame. A fine. And thousands, and costing thousands of dollars in hospital bills wow yeah people complain that he was out of the play when i hit him except that's not the way football works
Starting point is 01:57:52 on an interception return the only people out of the player on the sidelines or in the stands if he was in the play that was his play you see guys are they go they'll go up and kind of grab somebody by the jersey and we're both not in this play really, but we look like we're engaging with each other. I didn't really realize I was supposed to be kind to him. He was loafing across the field. After I hit him, I celebrated. I did not know he was hurt when I celebrated. I hit a guy.
Starting point is 01:58:17 I didn't see it coming. So, yeah, and that's – yeah, said uh all this type of shit so his book comes out august 21st 2012 and it's called sap attack and he's wearing a ring now so he must have got a super bowl ring back yeah or they've superimposed one on you can still get it on kindle for 11.99 you can get a hardcover from 573 on amazon six bucks six bucks it bucks. It's called a no-holds-barred memoir here. So big man, big talent, big star, big mouth, big heart, big personality, big smile, big headlines, Warren Sapp. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Big guts, big balls. Big balls. Big fat guts. So October 16, 2012, Warren transforms himself into Judge Sapp for a YouTube series. What? Yes. He settles disputes here. He's going to do a Judge Judy situation.
Starting point is 01:59:14 With zero law. Oh, my God. That is fucking wild, man. Just an opinion? Yeah, just he's going to be a judge, I guess. They're going to do one of these judge shows here on the NOC TV YouTube channel. All right. And that's that.
Starting point is 01:59:30 So he's going to do that here. Warren, at this point, while discussing the NFL, strongly predicts that Robert Griffin III is the player to watch. They said he and Luck will be the two pillars that will carry us home through the 21st century. Whoops. Big swing and a miss. Swing and a miss he said peyton and brady is over in 2012 would they win five super bowls between them since then what an idiot that's not great and luck is fucking here he retired he retired two years later gr. Griffin was fucking out of the league. He's still in the league, though, as a backup.
Starting point is 02:00:07 He keeps getting kicked around. No, no. Griffin. No, no, no, no, no. He's long since gone. A couple of years ago, he was in the league still, though. No. He hung around for years.
Starting point is 02:00:15 He's got to have been gone since 2015, right? No, no, no, no, no. He came back as a backup. Absolutely. He was a backup. I'm pretty sure he was a backup. I don't know. He's a joke now.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Yeah. On November 1st, 2012, his 10,000 square foot house was auctioned off and sold for $2.9 million. They got $3 million out of an 18,000 square foot house? This was a 10,000 square foot
Starting point is 02:00:42 house, so maybe a different house. A lot of houses. He also participates in Fox's dating game show, The Choice. Oh, Jesus. My Christ. You don't want to date that man? April 22, 2014, right before the NFL draft, he's criticizing Jadavian Clowney. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Who? Yeah. Jadavian Clowney. Yeah. He said that Jadavian Clowney continues to hear questions about his work ethic, and he said, this is what Sapp said, My grandfather taught me something a long time ago. He said, you will never get more money by doing less work. I look at Jadavian Clowney's game tape, and I don't see a guy that is playing the game with his hair on fire, making plays, running up and down the field, sideline to sideline, doing all those things.
Starting point is 02:01:26 That's the real issue with me. What else is he doing not waking up? The next job you have is rushing the quarterback, young man, getting ready for the NFL. If you wake up every morning and you're not ready, prepared to go out and do the things you have to to be a defensive end, outside linebacker, pass rushing specialist, what else is there? event outside linebacker pass rushing specialist what else is there okay i got jadavian the worst thing that ever happened to jadavian clowning was that amazing uh tackle for a loss in college because they expected him to do that on every single play and he got through the a gap he got he got a lucky a lucky gap and he got through and made a huge play monster play no doubt but they expected him to
Starting point is 02:02:06 do that on every play if you can do that once they're putting two bodies on you every game you're every play you're never getting that play ever again jones for christ's sake calm down he's he's a good player he's not a fucking fucking superhuman for christ's sake clowny's still playing by the way yeah still in the league he's got one and a half sacks this year he's played 114 games with 44 and a half sacks and 213 232 solo tackles 13 forced fumbles great player just been fine yeah yeah so maybe not overall uh number one draft pick fine but pretty fucking fine he's not a superhuman but he does no he's been knocking around a lot he went to houston for five years in cleveland baltimore seattle tennessee where's
Starting point is 02:02:49 he bouncing uh right now i believe he is on ten uh baltimore baltimore that's right cleveland last year yeah uh 2000 or february uh third 2015 he is going to be arrested and fired. Oh? Oh, yeah. Former pro bowler here was arrested Monday on suspicion of soliciting a prostitute and allegedly assaulting two women. Where, Jimmy?
Starting point is 02:03:18 In a hotel room? Phoenix. Oh, that's right! The other Florida. Phoenix. Phoenix. The other Florida. Oh, my God right. The other Florida. Phoenix. Phoenix. The other Florida. Yeah. Oh, my God. Tampa not hot enough for you?
Starting point is 02:03:29 Phoenix. When was this? February? 2015, February 3rd, around the Super Bowl. You got it. That's exactly what it was. He was in town for the Super Bowl. Yes, he was.
Starting point is 02:03:42 Taken into custody at a downtown phoenix hotel and booked into jail he made his initial appearance in court yeah and then was released faces a maximum penalty of twenty five hundred dollar fine six months in jail three years probation yeah all that good shit here um he went jesus christ so he gets fired yeah immediately from the NFL. His mugshot's funny, too. He's just like. It is. Yeah. Did he have multiple prostitutes? Well, he was allegedly assaulting two women as well. There you go.
Starting point is 02:04:11 So I assume those two women are probably the prostitutes. They're both of them. Yes. Unless he beat up two women and then was like, I need a prostitute now. I'm angry and horny. I'm all horned up and angry now. I'm mad and hard. Jesus Christ. I'm all horned up and angry now. I'm mad and hard. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:04:28 So he was arrested on the day before the Super Bowl in 2010 on the domestic battery charge as well. He really gets his dander up around the Super Bowl. Guy's super horny for football. Man, he's very, very horny. Yeah, we know that here. Very, very horny. Yeah, we know that here. In Monday's incident, Phoenix police officers working security at a downtown hotel were investigating a noise disturbance at about 2.30 a.m.
Starting point is 02:04:53 when they were contacted by a woman alleged she had been assaulted. The incident was alleged to have occurred in a guest room after meeting in the lobby while she and another female were there as escorts, said the sergeant. During a meeting in the room, an argument ensued, allegedly over money, and the altercation turned physical. He's like, I don't have a lot. Have you seen the papers? Ain't you know I'm bankrupt? I pay 75 grand a month in child support. The altercation turned physical, spilling out into the hallway. Wow.
Starting point is 02:05:25 turned physical spilling out into the hallway wow during the investigation detectives were able to establish that an act of prostitution occurred in the room by at least one of the females oh he did something he did something so and then he's angry yeah it was a blow job and then fights about it yeah yeah why are you so mad after you come after a blood job you'd be like i don't care how much it costs that's great like you said 50 whatever it's like eating a great meal, you'd be like, I don't care how much it costs. That's great. You said 50, whatever. It's like eating a great meal and you've had like three glasses of wine. Remember the last time we went out when you were here? We fucking had all the pasta and wine. And after that, we were like, ah, whatever.
Starting point is 02:05:54 It's fine. You give me the check, I'm paying it. Ah, here's my credit card. Fuck it. Just take it. I don't give a shit. Yeah, it's one of those. I felt good. That's the same thing.
Starting point is 02:06:01 How do you haggle over price post-load drop? That's nuts. That's the same thing. How do you haggle over price post-load drop? That's nuts. That's crazy. They said Sapp was taken to police headquarters in question and admitted involvement in acts of prostitution, an act of prostitution, but denied assaulting the females. Minor injuries consistent with the struggle were observed by investigators on both females. Really? Police said Sapp was booked into the jail on suspicion of soliciting a prostitute, two counts of assault, both misdemeanors. Really? What?
Starting point is 02:06:43 Uh-huh. They have a requirement for a license or something? Apparently, some kind of escort license. I don't think you're allowed to suck dick with that. I think that's a non-dick sucking. It says there's a dick sucking provision on it. You're not allowed. It's like organ donor, no sucking dicks. It's the cards you get.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Yeah. Like organ donor, no sucking dicks. It's the cards you get. Yeah. So ABC 15 here in Arizona confirmed the news and provided additional details. Oh? Saying that Sapp met the two women in the lobby of the hotel before they went back up to his hotel room. They started discussing money and a physical altercation occurred.
Starting point is 02:07:24 This was 2.30 in the morning. This all happened, by the way. A few more details come out. Sapp paid $600 for sex acts, apparently. Yes, allegedly, apparently. Facing, obviously, the same charges. Accused of assaulting two women. It's at the Renaissance Hotel in downtown Phoenix. Ew, are you serious?
Starting point is 02:07:42 That's not even a good one. No. No, it's not oh god damn it carlos oh that's the one you expect somebody's getting a $600 blowjob in yeah yeah go to the biltmore you cheap bastard he didn't even go to the kempton that's nothing yeah that's what i mean that's a decent one down there well one of his victims reported their age was 23, that's the prostitution charge, another woman was 34. She identified herself as the 23-year-old's co-worker. One way to put it.
Starting point is 02:08:13 Cited for failure to register with the state as an escort. Investigators say Sapp was in the hotel bar when he struck up a conversation with the women who claimed to be dancers at a popular Las Vegas strip club and invited them up to his room. Yeah. The women told police they were dancing for Sapp inside his room as he threw $100 bills at them. He should have been throwing fives. That's amazing.
Starting point is 02:08:37 Yeah, maybe that bankruptcy claim is a... But investigators say Sapp reported giving each woman $300 in exchange for a sex act. The 23-year-old complied by giving him oral sex, which Sapp recorded on his cell phone. Oh, Carlos. And later showed police. Uh-huh. While the 34-year-old hid in the bathroom and didn't emerge until she heard the pair arguing back and forth here.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Sapp told the police that the 23 year old asked for additional money for intercourse. Like that was just for a blow job and began yelling when he refused to pay her more. He said, quote, the police report said he told her several times that she needed to leave, but she was irate.
Starting point is 02:09:18 At one point she used Warren's phone to call security to his room. The woman said she was collecting her belongings when Sapp grabbed her by the arms and threw her into the hallway, the force of which knocked both women down, according to the report. Wow. She said, I do what I do, but that doesn't give him the right to put his hands on me, is what she told police. I agree with that. But before we go in this room, we make decisions on what things cost and that way there's before anything's done right before anything's done we don't that goes for both sides exactly 100 what are we gonna do how much is this gonna cost we're gonna settle all this
Starting point is 02:09:55 up front because if you decide that uh you don't want to pay for whatever service that she's got you don't get to manhandle somebody you don't get to be throwing women around you certainly don't get to toss women into the hallway you know that's nuts degrade them because they're below you because they are perform sex acts for money you were the one wanting this service at the renaissance hotel renaissance come on you son of a bitch calm Calm down, Carlos. Carlos, calm down. You're not better than her, Carlos. No. Nope. May 19, 2015. Charges dropped again.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. He was arrested. Court records show he successfully completed a prostitution solicitation counseling program. What is that? What is that like? You won't do it again?
Starting point is 02:10:42 I won't do it again. Okay. You're going to go on your way. I'll get free blowjobs from now on. And still needs to complete a diversion program for the assault charge to avoid possible jail time. He was fired from the NFL network still. And, yeah, there we go. June 26, 2015, Warren is charged with domestic battery.
Starting point is 02:11:04 The wheels are really falling off this bitch. Why does he think, why does he hit women so much? Very big, or allegedly, we don't know. You're fucking antsy yourself. Apparently, yes, authorities in Las Vegas have charged him with biting his girlfriend, throwing her to the ground, and stepping on her head. Wow. In an incident from April at the M Resort in Henderson, Nevada.
Starting point is 02:11:29 So he has a girlfriend in April, but two months prior, he had two girlfriends in a renaissance. I think he's got a lot of girlfriends, put it that way. The criminal complaint filed charges Sapp with three domestic battery misdemeanors that carry up to 18 months in jail if he's convicted. The accusation against him, against Sapp here, he's obviously been arrested for, we know what he's been arrested for here. Three months later, though, the Vegas police reported that Sapp and his girlfriend of five years were arguing when the former football player allegedly threw a margarita in her face at the resort's pool. threw a margarita in her face at the resort's pool.
Starting point is 02:12:09 The police report says security footage showed Sapp aggressively pull on the woman's arm or purse inside the resort, causing her to lose her balance. Sapp's girlfriend told the police that the arguing continued during the drive home and at her Las Vegas condo. She told police that Sapp bit her middle finger at some point, but couldn't remember how it happened. After returning to the condo, she told police she wasn't sure how she ended up on the floor, but she remembered that SAP had stepped on the right side of her face.
Starting point is 02:12:34 She thought she might've had a concussion after that. My Christ. So. Wow. October 2nd, 2015, Warren takes a plea deal in the domestic battery case. Oh, really?
Starting point is 02:12:45 This one didn't get dropped? No, it didn't. Yeah, this will spare him jail time is what it is here. He pleads no contest to this. It was a one misdemeanor or domestic violence charge. They fined him $345. Wow. And ordered him to pay twenty five
Starting point is 02:13:05 hundred fifty five dollars in resolution and restitution log 48 hours of community service and six months of counseling and stay out of trouble for six months all right figure it out two other domestic violence charges will be dismissed okay this is crazy. July 28, 2016. Okay. Warren Sapp says he got bit by a shark. Yeah. Okay. Remember this?
Starting point is 02:13:31 In Florida? He was diving for lobsters in Florida when a shark got a hold of his arm and bit him. Okay. So, Sapp called into the Rich Eisen Show to talk about details here and uh sap said he was diving for lobster which he's done three years in a row yeah it involves free diving and holding your breath for 45 seconds looking in holes in the coral to find lobsters what yeah um they don't have pinchers in florida i guess those lobsters are a different kind but and it's free diving why don't you just get a fucking scuba tank?
Starting point is 02:14:06 He's free diving. He said, I go down, I grab the anchor line and pull myself down because I got to get my naked 200-pound butt to the bottom without expending too much energy so I can actually hold my breath for 45 seconds once I get to the bottom. Yeah, it's hard to swim to the bottom. The earth doesn't want you. It doesn't. Even your pool, if it's 10 feet deep going it's fucking really gotta so um he said now so now i get down and i look and i'm looking and i reach in there and i feel something soft and i pull my hand out like uh i don't like the way that feels so then i looked over the top from the top of the hole
Starting point is 02:14:42 to the bottom hole and i see him and i see the dorsal fin and tail and i said oh that's a shark in there yeah yeah and i look out of the side and i stick my hand back in the thing and now he's out he's out the back side where i can snatch him out you know me snatch him out why are you getting after the shark he said i decide i'm gonna snatch him out about four feet he ain't a monster he's a little fella he comes from a little stock holy shit this is insane belittling the shark they're like what the fuck so they said you grabbed a shark and held your breath and all this and he said i did i snatched him out with the right hand then with my left i grabbed him by the tail.
Starting point is 02:15:25 And then he went taken off. And then I had him and he was going straight like away from me, like in a straight line. Wow. So I'm enjoying this moment. I actually fell into a moment where I was on the boat, you know, with the sharks we grab up on the boat. And we grab them and take pictures and point them at the camera. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:44 He had landed it and it fucking bit him in the boat. Yes. He said, I look up at my friend JC and I turn back and I'm almost out of air at this point. Man, this sucker turns back and he grabs my shirt and wrist. I mean, right underneath where if you slice it, that's the bad part, right? Yeah. Yeah. So he's right at that point and he globs down onto the top of my shirt and I snatch down.
Starting point is 02:16:07 And luckily my shirt had the top of his teeth because that part came loose after he swung his bottom jaw to bite me and he knocked a nice little plug out. He got me to the gristle. It's past the white meat. Oh, gosh. I should have went to the doctor, but I'll be fine. What are you joking? He got a chunk of fucking flesh taken out of his arm but i'll be fine what are you joking he got a play chunk of fucking flesh taken out of his arm i'll be all right i'll play doctor on myself for a week i'll be fine i
Starting point is 02:16:32 wrapped it up put some black tape on it and went back in rich i had to go get that lobster i don't know if i believe this what is he sabu what the fuck is he doing the wrestler sliced his arm open to the bone and said get me some tape out of the back and fucking super glue and tape. And he just wrestled the rest of the match. But if there's one shark in there and now you've got a fucking wound, now you're bleeding into the water and sharks can smell that for miles. I would say so. He's out of his fucking mind. Oh, my God. No shit. I would say so. He's out of his fucking mind.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Oh, my God. No shit. So, okay. A lawyer representing a woman, this is 2020, who claimed that Warren Sapp plowed into her during a Super Bowl party for ESPN. She was trying to sue him, gets an issue order to pay his legal fees. Oh. Yeah. to sue him gets an issue ordered to pay his legal fees oh yeah um she i guess this is paul blart mall cop actress paula tricky oh she's in the movie yeah sap said this was a bullshit case they
Starting point is 02:17:35 tried to extort me to pay out on some shit i didn't do she claimed that the player turned broadcaster ran through the crowded ari Arizona party in 2015 and struck her, causing injuries. She was arrested later that night for DUI, by the way. Oh, well done, Gal. Obviously. Yeah. Obviously. Former football Hall of Famer Andre Reid initially signed an affidavit claiming he witnessed Sapp strike her, but later recanted in a subsequent deposition.
Starting point is 02:18:01 Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus. Jesus Christ, I hate Phoenix. Ugh. ruled that Tricky's lawyer failed to provide any evidence whatsoever to support the case and should have withdrawn the claims. The court ordered him to pay a reasonable attorney's fee for SAP. We told it could be up to $100,000. Wow. Wow. That's a lot. Yeah. Now, this is interesting. Phillips, that lawyer, currently repping the family of Don Lewis, Carol Baskin's former husband, repping the family of Don Lewis, Carol Baskin's former husband who disappeared, has filed an appeal. It's all Florida,
Starting point is 02:18:48 baby. That's all Florida. It always comes back to Florida. Fuck, man. Always comes back to Carol Baskin's. It was a legally unfair and insufficient ruling, which will be overturned on appeal, he told us. He has repeatedly requested the judge recuse himself. But,
Starting point is 02:19:03 Sapp said, game over for the other side. It's sanction time, baby. I tried every way possible to show they had the wrong person. Literally no one believed me. I can't be in two places at the same time. I mean, if he was there, he was there. What do you know? Another place, he's at another place.
Starting point is 02:19:21 October 2020, the internet sports book Bet Us announced that, or Bet US, announced that Warren Sapp and Brian Jones, as the hosts of the weekly podcast Bet US Unfiltered. They've interviewed celebrities such as Derek Johnson, Adam Schafer, Ray Lewis, Kevin Carter, Rick Neuheisel,
Starting point is 02:19:40 and John Welter. Well, everyone's tuning into that big Rick Neuheisel interview. Boy, is he digging deep. Wow. You've played in the NFL, and those are who you get? Jesus Christ. Then, December 21st, 2021, this is fucking amazing. Here's his birthday picture.
Starting point is 02:20:00 I'm going to show you. He's a lot thinner than he used to be. What the shit? He's wearing like a denim thong bottom. You know what he looks like? Someone at Woodstock? He looks like Big Sherm if he lost a lot of weight. Or Big Worm.
Starting point is 02:20:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big Sherm. Faison love a little bit. He looks like Faison if Faison lost weight. Because his eyes are closed. He's making a face. So it doesn't really look like Warren Sack. And he has these underwear Speed speedos they're they're denim they look like absolutely those are florida it's a florida thong those are insane fucking shorts and uh yeah he
Starting point is 02:20:36 stripped down to this and showed everything off this is 49th birthday wow it looks good for 49 it looks great 49 never felt so good since i wore it at a pop at a popka oh i guess this was his old number 49 never felt so good that was his old number is that or those is high school underwear that's what i was thinking at first i thought he was like i could finally fit into my high school thong again that That was honestly what I thought. It's got to be, right? That's why I was like, oh, his number. Now I get it. Yeah, that makes more fucking sense here.
Starting point is 02:21:09 He's back in prostitute fighting weight. He looks great. That's it. Yeah, you can knock a couple ladies around. November 23rd here, 2022, Sapp is now calling out Bucks linebacker Devin White. Oh? 22 sap is now calling out uh bucks linebacker devin white oh and he said he just he's broke down a video breakdown of white's play against the baltimore ravens and he said i want you to
Starting point is 02:21:32 watch the effort of the captain right here number 45 how do you show up with your defense on monday morning with this type of effort i'd ask for the c off your chest oh he's mad at devin huh mad at him yeah um todd bowles said i have no problems with devon he's the head coach at the time you can point to anybody on this team uh you can point to anybody on this team where you can say they weren't playing well any week of the season so to pick devon is unnecessary 2020 that's the season after they won the fucking super bowl no no you can pick anybody on this team. No, he says, I have no problems with Devin.
Starting point is 02:22:07 You can point to anyone on this team. This was 2020 or 2022? 2022. Oh, okay. So it's been a little while. Yeah, yeah. It's been a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:15 So they said that, yeah, it's whatever. So May 3rd, 2023, Warren Sapp. Now he's doing some other shit here. Yeah. He's become involved in a film that just won the best short
Starting point is 02:22:27 documentary awards at the Sunscreen Film Festival in St. Petersburg don't know that one Sunscreen it's called Life with CTE
Starting point is 02:22:35 a Warren Sapp story oh chronicles his efforts to generate more awareness about chronic about CTE and neurological disease
Starting point is 02:22:43 linked to his to repeated hits to the head seat. This is Chris Nowitzki, the one guy who was a football player, wrestler. And now he's he's like a scientist. Now he does all this shit. Yeah, he's a he was a he went to Harvard and all this shit. He has a Ph.D. in behavioral neuroscience. Wow.
Starting point is 02:23:02 Nowitzki Nowitzki. He said CTE is one of the only brain diseases that is entirely preventable. You're not born with it and you're not going to get it unless you're hitting the head hundreds of thousands of times. That's fair.
Starting point is 02:23:14 Jarring incident while driving in Miami led Sapp to do more research on CTE. He was cruising down Biscayne Boulevard to visit a friend when suddenly couldn't remember how to get to an office he'd been to many times. Just forgot. Really?
Starting point is 02:23:28 Yeah. He said, that's a very scary and helpless feeling in the documentary. Yeah, no shit. He said, I just wanted to share the knowledge that we shouldn't be putting our sons and nephews out there at 8, 9, 10, or 11 years old playing Pop Warner football. Me and Jim Brown don't talk about Pop Warner football when we go to the Hall of Fame. Me and Joe Green don't talk about Pop Warner football. I don't talk about Pop Warner football with no Hall of Famers. We talk high school.
Starting point is 02:23:53 We talk college. Yeah, that's because that's where you become who you are. He said, maybe taking some of the blows away at a younger age might help to not add them up. He said, we know the longer you play, the worse off you are, is what Nowinski said. And he said, we know there's a 20-year window when you want to move that window. That's why we've got to educate the moms. There's a lot of single moms out here on a Saturday on the Pop Warner football fields, guaranteed.
Starting point is 02:24:19 If we can get these young men to play chess or other non-contact sports until high school, we'd be better off. Probably. You might be right. But how many of those boys – the amount of bullying that happens in these fucking schools. You want to put chess fucking polo shirts on these boys rather than football jerseys? You know what I mean? Honestly, we probably shouldn't let kids slam into each other with their heads right that's probably not great i would assume let's probably teach them a different way to play this sport yeah so it's it's wild so this is gone this is what he said this isn't our
Starting point is 02:24:54 opinion this is an nfl player who seems to love hitting people so right he says i'm gonna leave a boston canton you can visit i'm gonna leave my tape and also my brain so he can understand what 19 years of football did that's how we make the game better that's good he should do that and i'm glad he's doing that this is positive that's positive uh june 8 2023 uh the commanders washington team is talking about appointing warren sapp to their coaching staff this really ron rivera was talking about it yeah he's talking about maybe we'll get Warren Sapp in here. I mean, obviously we're going to do shit with him. He said, Warren Sapp popped in the last year and is really good friends with some of the staff here. We talked about the possibility of coaching full-time last year, and he seemed to suggest it was not something he thought wasn't in his future, but it's a welcome voice to have around.
Starting point is 02:25:41 It adds something a little different and definitely breaks up the the mundane for players okay okay um interesting here so uh august 24th 2023 he apparently there's a some flight from columbia to florida and there's a whole uh-oh the whole issue here with this shit, there's a Fox News article by Joe Kinsey, and apparently a video posted to Sapp's Instagram page here received considerable attention. Sapp records a confrontation. Warren says it can't be a confrontation because it's not face-to-face with a female passenger who claims to be a Miami-Dade police officer. with a female passenger who claims to be a Miami-Dade police officer. So they said the question I and numerous Instagram users wondered was what led to the alleged Miami-Dade officer bringing up the no-fly list and asking for JetBlue flight attendants to solve the situation. Sapp says, apparently, a passenger, DJ Jean Sean, or John Sean or some shit who was seated in the front of SAP says that SAP was a complete piece of shit the entire time on the flight to Fort Lauderdale. SAP says that's a full series of lies.
Starting point is 02:26:57 And they said that they the the source made a major mistake trusting a source who was wearing headphones and didn't even hear what was going on. So, Warren says, did you hear the DJ say he had his headphones on so he couldn't hear? You know why the DJ didn't hear anything? Because I didn't speak to anyone but Diane, the flight attendant. It's funny that you don't do any investigative reporting before you reported this story with one source i was in the reporting side of the national football league for seven years on two different networks and i was suspended for 30 days for going on one source information he was that was the suspension came after the jeremy shocky oh yeah that wasn't okay so um i guess they he wanted to give his side of the story. Sapp continued on how the story of the flight behavior was all lies,
Starting point is 02:27:48 and he was being wrong by the DJ who he insisted was the writer's friend. So he said, I trusted that source with my life and children. Do you trust this DJ with your life and children, Morin said. Sapp said he didn't have any beef with the lady sitting behind him. He says there was an interaction with an older lady next to the woman who claimed to be a cop. Jesus Christ. Sapp said he and the old lady witnessed a gentleman misread his ticket and the man ended up in the wrong row and had to go back to the front of the plane. The man's bag ended up in Sapp's lap. I lean back to mom's and said you see this she leans up and said oh my
Starting point is 02:28:26 god his bag sap recalls i said i got it i'm in full chill mode i just want to go home right now so i can uh so i can look at him and say excuse me sir your bag the man apologizes for resting his bag on sap's leg i said you wouldn't have confused 2 and 14, meaning the seat numbers. Yeah. And we have a bit of a laugh about it. So your DJ friend is just saying things without anything to back up what he's saying. Then he goes back to saying the DJ had headphones on and he didn't know. And then he says, if you know anything about South America, the darker your skin, the worse treatment you get.
Starting point is 02:29:02 He said, yeah. He said, oh, I might have to take you on a visit to the reporter, get you a little insight because you can't feel something you can't see with your own eyes or feel when someone walks up to you and says my color. True. I was laughing with the old lady. She was like, I have the craziest flights. I said, baby, you have no idea. I tell my friends all the time there's a sign on my forehead that says, fuck with him. And it flashes like Krispy Kreme. Now serving hot. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:29:33 Who talks like that? That's wild, man. So, yeah, this all goes on. And he says, I never put my armrest down. It's just a barrier that doesn't need to be there. I'm going to lean against the wall. You lean against your husband. And we're a barrier that doesn't need to be there. I'm going to lean against the wall. You lean against your husband and we're going to have a good flight, he said.
Starting point is 02:29:48 No, this lady has her phone out in full gorilla mode with her elbows out mashing her TikTok and it's in Spanish language or music and he rattles off some sounds like he's speaking Spanish. There is nothing worse than being in the middle and
Starting point is 02:30:02 or being on a corner and having the dude in the middle just like mashing his elbows into the riblets of the people. I'm taking it all. Yeah. Jerk. He said, I pull my headphones off and I look at her and I say, I know you have a pair of headsets. This is a three hour flight. She's sitting there mashing it, mashing it. That's the first thing. He said, now the Spanish lady looking at me as a big black man can't tell her what to do with her phone. I knew exactly what this was. So now it becomes an issue not with her phone. She's elbowing me in the ribs. I put the armrest down. Oh, no, no, no. You can't put the armrest down, is what the lady told him what he said. I said, man, this is my armrest.
Starting point is 02:30:42 Sap asked me, asked the reporter, if I know that JetBlue has three armrests. I explained how I've never flown JetBlue. All right, well, look it up. There are three armrests. I put my armrest down. She had an issue with my armrest. He explained that if she leaned two inches toward her husband, there would be a barrier between them. She gets the message and leans toward her husband.
Starting point is 02:31:01 Sap proceeds to raise the armrest because I don't want this in my ribs either because he's a big guy. At that point, now he's all pissed off and he says, I'm 50 years old. I've done all my ass kicking. It's all up in the clouds. You can go to the Hall of Fame and push a button and the QB killer comes back alive. I have no interest in confrontation or discussion of any of this, sir. This lady decided she didn't want to sit there because of whatever reason. Are my ass kickings over?
Starting point is 02:31:28 I don't want to beat this woman's ass in the sky. Yeah. He claims the cop tells him to shut the fuck up. You don't know who the fuck I am. I'm Miami-Dade police and I'll have your ass put on the no fly list. That's when somebody hits record on their phone and instagram gets going here um yeah this is a mess here so obviously it's this is just ridiculous um this whole thing i don't know what the fuck's going on people argued on a fucking plane and somebody videotaped it and
Starting point is 02:31:58 put it on instagram uh yeah right at the time that a miami-dade police officer said i'll put you on the no fly list i'll get you on the no-fly list. I'll get you on the no-fly list. September 20th, 2023, very recently, Sapp wants to join Deion Sanders at Colorado after meeting the players. He wants to work there? He wants to work there. He said he's ready to join the coaching staff here, he told the Rich Eisen Show. Well, now that it's doing great and Deion looks like a king. it's doing great and Dion looks like a king. Well in 2020
Starting point is 02:32:24 there were rumors that he was going to be on his Dion's Jackson State staff but it didn't happen so yeah he says for the first time in my life I was loved on by some defensive linemen and they wanted to know like the keys to the vault he said I've never heard anybody shake my pockets like
Starting point is 02:32:40 that and ask for the keys to the vault I've had five six young men around me that were basically ready to strip search me. Like, I know that there's a key somewhere that you're going to give me for this and they're willing to work. They infected me. And I told prime before I left, I'm coming back. I want to be there next year. I want to be there next year. I'm going to get everything, the paperwork to work. And I'm going to get, and I'm going to go to work because sitting on my couch, it's time to get this degree. we're gonna go to teach these kids i know something about this game when you
Starting point is 02:33:09 have a quarterback like what's his name shador uh his oh his kid i don't know yeah shatter i can't pronounce his name but whatever it's the young sanders good quarterback yeah and my d-line go hunt the other quarterback our chances of winning just went through the roof so yeah he's ready to go he also said that um there's been death threats flying around i guess after about going to colorado no about something else i guess uh travis hunter got injured and sap said why didn't they throw the kid out of the game that's all i want to know referring to colorado's Henry Blackburn. And then after he said that, Blackburn ended up receiving death threats. And then Sanders came in, Deion came in and said, hey, don't fucking do that.
Starting point is 02:33:53 That guy's fine. Yeah, what the fuck? Why would you do that? Yeah, that's whatever. Open in your mouth. You're not even a part of this. Yeah, no shit. October 7th, 2023.
Starting point is 02:34:03 Oh, my God. Yeah. Talking shit about keishon johnson oh for heaven's sake which is fucking hilarious yeah um sap considered johnson a special player he said but he would never want to be johnson's teammate again due to his inability to lead the offense he said johnson didn't lead us at all that's why we get in joe jervicious uh that's why we get in joe jervicious and went and got keenan mccardle yeah joe is joe is no good jesus uh kishan called what he said an embarrassment he called him a liar and called him an embarrassment to society warren sapp to To society. He said, at Warren Sapp.
Starting point is 02:34:45 He fucking went right after him here. Please stop lying. I would never in a million years follow your sorry ass ever. You are an embarrassment to society. Sorry, and I mean sorry. Please keep my name out your fake ass, out your mouth fake ass MF. Sad, go get some help. Tired of you using my name.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Only dude I would follow is 55. Jesus Christ. Okay. I think that was Derek Brooks. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Yeah. So that's pretty fucking funny.
Starting point is 02:35:14 I think there. Jesus Christ. This is fucking funny. Nobody gives a shit about it. He's trying to, he's trying to drum up some sort of controversy because nobody gives a shit about him anymore. No. And then he said he posts a picture, Keyshawn. He says, I had to.
Starting point is 02:35:30 One last thing, LMAO. Someone is crazy and it ain't me, Warren Sapp. I promise I will not respond to this silliness for at least another 30 years. And the picture is them on the field at colorado posing together smiling recently recent it's colorado on there yeah yeah right after this happened and warren's got a big old dip of chew in his lip man does he really fuck yeah he does look at this shit jimmy that is a oh warren is a florida boy through and through isn't't he? Dipping like a motherfucker. My God. So he's doing all right there. Now, can't get enough of Warren?
Starting point is 02:36:08 Oh, my God. Just wait. You can hire him to speak. Yeah? That's right. You can go to athletespeakers.com, hire him, a Hall of Fame defensive tackle to speak here. He travels from Fort Lauderdale. Really?
Starting point is 02:36:22 And he's available for corporate appearances, speaking engagements, meet and greets, endorsements, and visual events. How much? His fee ranges from. 60 grand? 20 to 30 grand. Not bad. That's a little much for Warren Sack. I mean, it's a lot, but the guy won a fucking Super Bowl and he's in the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 02:36:40 You can also get John Lynch, Rondé Barber, Derek Brooks. Rondé Barber's a good one. Yeah. Rondé, Derek Brooks, he's fucking awesome. So multiple sources list this as his net worth, by the way. Oh, boy. Multiple places list that his net worth is $500,000 at this point. It might be.
Starting point is 02:36:57 It could be, yeah. And his son, Warren Sapp II, is playing here. Where is he? He's a red shirt sophomore at winter garden foundation academy that's where he went to high school where is he um red shirt freshman what school is this though orlando florida multimedia studies he's 6-1-191 he's an inside linebacker that's a little skinny yeah red shirt freshman 2020 uh did not see action and began making a position change and then in uh 2021 contributed to the owls 45 14 victory over fordham so he must be in college now so he might be he's playing almost out of eligibility though
Starting point is 02:37:37 that was 2020 yeah that's wild maybe at least he didn't play for Bishop Sycamore. That was good. So there you go, everybody. That is Warren Sapp. Warren doing some shit, man. Just a lot of content on him. If you are a sex worker, do not allow him to book you. Never participate in his fucking. Well, get your money up front and talk about it first. Agree on a price and get paid first.
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