Crime in Sports - #384 - Super Bowl Murder Shuffle - Michael "L.A. Mike" Richardson

Episode Date: November 28, 2023

This week, we follow the story of a man, who seemed to be tapped by the heavens to have a great life. A member of the Super Bowl champion 1985 Chicago Bears defense, and "Super Bowl Shuffle" ...soloist, who quickly lost his career, and had his life unravel, and crash. He was arrested over 20 times. Many of those for selling/smoking crack, and other embarrassing issues. Just when it looks like it can't get worse, he's arrested for something MUCH worse!!Be babied by 5 older sisters, have Mike Ditka write letters to judges to get you out of trouble, and then shoot a man, outside of a prostitute hotel, in a shady area of Phoenix with Michael Richardson!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, he's an asshole. Let's talk about him. Michael Calvin Richardson. Michael Richardson, football player. Yeah. On one of the most famous teams of all time, as a matter of fact. Super Bowl rings adorning him. Really?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Absolutely. We'll talk a little bit about him. Nickname here is L.A. Mike. Now, L.A. Mike, you're thinking because we'll find out he's born and raised in Compton. So that's L.A. So you think it's Los Angeles Mike. But that's not what his nickname. That's not what the L.A. stands for.
Starting point is 00:05:24 No. Buddy Ryan gave him the nickname. Coach Buddy Ryan. angeles mike but that's not what his nickname that's not what the la stands for no buddy ryan gave him the nickname coach buddy ryan and it's definitely not complimentary and it's fucking hilarious so where do we get to that so uh here he is uh he's born may 23rd 1961 oh like i said in compton he's a compton guy he's a guy's a defensive back when he gets older here. Six foot, 187 pounds. He plays cornerback. That's a DB.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, it's a perfect size DB, especially for when he played in the 80s. Now, you know, guys are a little taller. You like that. But back because these receivers are 6'4". God damn it. They're so big. When you got a guy like that, yeah, it's hard to defend them when you're 5'11". That's not easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Especially when they have office like they do. Right. That's the other part. Like Megatron was, fuck, man. The Lions were god-awful, and he was such a spectacle because he's an enormous target. Throw it anywhere near him. Rob it. Away from the defenders, and he'll figure it out because he's so long and then athletic, too, on top of it.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And he was smart the way he did shit. I think he was 6'6". I think he was 6'5", 6'6". I mean, these guys, they're so huge. It started with Randy Moss being ungodly fast and 6'4". There was no way to defend him. So they've tried to get taller corners, but you have to have a corner who's quick enough to keep up with these guys too.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And that's so hard to do. It's really hard to find. And anybody that's over 6'4", they want him running receiver anyway. They want him as a receiver, or if they're bulkier, they want him as a tight end. You know, these light tight ends that you see now all the time. So, yeah, he goes to Compton High, which I have a friend that went to Compton High, actually. And a nickname for the school's mascot that they had is... Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's a bit much. You know what it is. It's a bit... Yeah, I don't like it's a bit much you know what it is it's a bit I don't like it I don't even like saying it I get what they're going for I don't what is it what's it for it's the tar babes I know but which is because the tar pits are there
Starting point is 00:07:17 oh the tar pits yeah the California Southern California is famous for the tar pits and that's what it was so that's what it's supposed to be. Yeah. And Compton wasn't a, when this high school came about, too, Compton wasn't even a black area. You know what I mean? But now it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:07:35 When my friend, whose name was Tay, was telling me that he played for Compton, he played basketball for them, and told me that that was their mascot, I was like, for real? Get the fuck out of here. That's not real. goes it is he goes yeah it is i was like get the fuck out of here i said on your shirt it said that across and he goes yeah oh god all right whatever so um anyway yeah that's that's uh what's going on there he goes to arizona state as we'll talk about so really he's a sun devil as jimmy will know ends up playing for the bears later on we'll talk all about it so is that right yes uh he's a i'm the most famous defense that's ever existed so 1985 that's right we'll talk about it here his father's name is blue okay blue first Yeah, that's what they call him. And his mother's name is Bobby.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Blue and Bobby. Blue and Bobby. He's got six sisters. My Christ. Six sisters and him. Five of them are older than him, too. So he has one younger sister. So imagine the amount of babying that went on there with five older sisters. But that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It's not even like they just wanted to have a boy, so they kept trying. Because when you have another one that's a girl after, you don't even have the excuse of like, we're just going to keep trying until we had one. I feel like they had the boy, okay? They had the boy, and then they're like, all right, we've turned the tides. Now we're having boys. Let's even it up. Let's start having boys.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And they had another one, the girl. They were like, all right, fuck it. Shut it down. Shut it down. No more more bro shut it down turn the coffee machine off i can't i can't we only have a certain amount of bathrooms we can have no more daughters in this house anymore this is crazy um so yeah he'll have a son and a daughter later on who we'll talk about doesn't name them after him so that's helpful yeah that's helpful i guess interesting so his mother bobby's a teacher and his father's name is blue his real name's calvin but he goes by blue everybody calls him blue he's an air force veteran and that's probably why they said he kept his
Starting point is 00:09:36 family in military shape type of deal you know what i mean tough guy yeah uh a childhood friend of michael said uh quote he would drive around in his camper and you could do no wrong if he was in the neighborhood because he was watching over everybody. In a camper? Just driving around eyeballing the kids in a camper. Hey, stop doing that. All right. Mr. Richardson said to stop. Mr. Richardson in his RV told us no.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Seems like he could have picked a more fuel efficientefficient model for that, just for money. Gas costs money, so he's driving around three miles to the gallon. He might as well have sold ice cream while he did it. It's probably his second home, so he can write it off. That's true. So he doesn't care. He might as well have sold bomb pops and snow cones and shit, because he's riding around and making contact.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Start moving that thing. Yeah. You're driving around five miles an hour get a get a fucking song going on five miles an hour with the wear and tear you got oil changes yeah that's what i'm saying come on man i'll tear your car up um this guy also said his mother and father were incredible people who raised the community i don't think he raised it like raised it up not like they raised all the children i don't think it's like burning it down yeah yeah so uh more like in deadwood when they say seth bullock raises up the community i think it's one of those he raises the camp and so i think it's that sort of thing so uh he had six sisters like we said and they and a friend of his the same guy said quote they always babied mike
Starting point is 00:11:06 as exactly what you would think would happen yeah fuck yeah he's gonna turn into a doll for christ sake they're gonna start passing him around and you know even if one of the girls or two of the girls doesn't give a shit about kids that's still three other older sisters that are passing him around so they said he was always the center of attention being a boy and being one of the youngest he had a personality he had talent and he was good looking center of attention, being a boy and being one of the youngest. He had a personality, he had talent, and he was good looking. The girls had to take a second seat. So, yeah, I guess he was the star of the family because he was the only boy. And he seemed special in some way.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So they all. Good personality, James. Yeah. They all, like all hands on deck in making Michael okay. Which is going to be, think about between that and then being an athlete, the level of pampering you've received. Oh, good Lord. The real world.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Shiny gold balls. Good for him. Man, the real world is going to kick you right in the taint someday. Unless you're Tom Brady and you make $500 million or whatever the hell he makes, you better buckle up for a fall. His ass has never been chapped from all the wet wipes. Never, never. Every day it's just moist and powdered.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Powdered fucking lovely, his whole ass. Unbelievable. It's still baby soft. He's 60-something years old right now. Not a wrinkle in his ball back. Nothing, no, smooth balls. His could still probably wrinkle in his ball. Nothing. No smooth balls. His balls look like a like a like an old actress's face just pulled tight. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Like Glenn Close's face. Just tight. Tighten right up. Ratcheted. So when he was growing up in all of this, he was born in 62. So Compton wasn't a bad neighborhood back then. No, it was a pretty decent place. It was a middle class neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:12:55 There was a lot of people that worked at – there was a factory there, some sort of air thing. I can't remember what it was. Carrier or some shit? Engine factory, something. But a lot of the residents worked there it was that sort of deal um then things started to change after the watts riots in 65 once the watts riots happened all the white people fucking ran away so they moved to orange county and yeah they moved to orange county and then this happened so then uh by 1970 by the time he was nine he went from being a real nice neighborhood when he was born to having the highest crime rate in California by 1970.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Another Calvin that'll go by Snoop moving next door. More Calvins, not blue. Right. So, by the way, did you see that all of that, his fucking I'm quitting fucking smoking bullshit? There's no fucking way he's quitting. Did you see what it was, though? He's not. You know what it was?
Starting point is 00:13:48 What is it? He said in his fucking this is very stupid to talk about now, but he said in his fucking social media thing that was retweeted hundreds of thousands of times and everything. I'm giving up smoke. Yeah, he's. Oh, my God. He's shilling. He's a fucking he's shilling for a smokeless fireplace. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:07 They came out with the ad campaign of Snoop sitting next to one of those metal canisters that has a fire in it saying, I gave up smoke. No more smoke. It's a smokeless fire. I'm so mad. Yeah. I knew he was selling something based on the three subsequent posts of, please respect my privacy. I'm like, come on. There's a gimmick up here.
Starting point is 00:14:29 This is dumb. But I figured it was going to be he was selling edibles or some shit like that. But it has literally nothing to do with weed. Some marketing person had a genius idea. I hate this marketing person already. And got a lot of attention for it now i just want to punch him right in the balls never ever say the brand of this james i didn't that's why i said a smokeless fireplace your brand i think they had enough pub they don't need us at this point this
Starting point is 00:14:57 would really be superfluous and pointless but i said if he was selling snickers i'd never fucking say snickers either ever again yeah. Yeah, that was bullshit. And it's funny because I have his weed. It's death row weed he puts out. So I'm like, so there's people like, there's other- There's no way he's going to stop that. That's going to make him a billion fucking dollars. That's what I mean. There's other, he's got to show that he likes it.
Starting point is 00:15:17 This product is terrible. It's not good for me. You should buy it, though. That's not going to work. You can't do that. My family told me to give it up. You should buy it. If you saw Ray Kroc, he had a cheeseburger in his hand period you know what
Starting point is 00:15:27 i'm saying he wasn't gonna go i'm a vegetarian that shit's terrible for your heart he's not gonna say that i love that when he died his wife gave all his shit away ah yeah yeah can you imagine work your fucking balls off your whole life marry a 20 year old hotter woman and then she outlives you and gives everything you worked for away i think he knew that was coming i think he made that choice he probably knows the woman better than we do so i think he made the choice and he's like i'd like to spend the last moments of my life with a great woman with a sexy woman here yeah so uh yeah that's that was ridiculous there was people responding to him too like other celebrities going i'm thinking about it too and it's not good for me and all
Starting point is 00:16:09 this stuff and it's like he can't even respond no no weed's great stop i sell it that's my business please always buy my brand yeah buy it it's really good that had to kick it that'd make him feel real dumb yeah i hope it did can we come out with the fireplace shit already? Because this is really... This is killing my brand. This is fucking me up. Fuck your brand. Oh, man. So, anyway, yeah, Compton got worse is the point here. And Stoop was from Long Beach, not Compton, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Right. He's a Long Beach guy. It was easy. He was from Compton. Yeah, a lot of the other guys are from Compton. But he's all Long Beach because my cousin, Ian, who does the research for Crime and Sports, he went to high school with him. I saw him in his yearbook. I don't think he's ever said he's from Compton.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I think he always said LBC. It's always Long Beach. Yeah. It's always Long Beach. In his yearbook, though, his name is Cortazar, not Calvin. Huh. In his yearbook, it says Cortazar Brodus under his name in the yearbook. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Maybe it's just because Calvin's easier to spell. He looks nine. It's funny. He still does. Yeah. He still looks nine. So he's just a mess, this guy. Now, we'll talk about, he's going to, I'll give you an overview of what's going to happen here.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And this is what he says, michael richardson this is after football after post football this is when he thinks everything is settled and it's not by the way he's going to have way more shit to do he says i just lost focus on football on everything he said you know what let's do it in their own words here of his whole uh his whole life and then it's going to really make a lot of sense later what he says here so here we go in their own words quote i just lost focus at some point the party has to stop and my party didn't stop and if the party is 24 hours around the clock eventually you're gonna get into trouble unfortunately i had to experience some pain to change that's a real motivator sometimes the fire gets hot enough you have to get away
Starting point is 00:18:05 from the place where you get burned and it takes some people longer than others to change i just thank god for who i am today i'm definitely a different person today did he say ain't no party like a death row party because the death row party don't stop 24 hours baby that's what he said that's basically what he said and then it gets too hot all metaphors very like just a weird like oblique fucking it's a strange he's a strange keep that in mind this is he's gonna have a football career have some problems and then he's gonna think he's all good now and that says i'm good now speech okay and then he's going to think he's all good now. And that's his I'm good now speech, okay? And then something way worse than he's ever done happens after that. So I thank God for who I am today. I'm definitely a different person today.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Remember that for later. Okay. He said he started using all sorts of substances when he was about 13, when he started getting engaged. And this is the early 70s too. Yeah. It was real loosey-goosey yeah like when i grew up in the 80s like as it should there was drug like i saw drugs around and stuff and like you know the house and this you know sure yeah but you knew who you knew who was doing what way yeah in the in the early 70s it was way more
Starting point is 00:19:20 loosey-goosey like so um he said his friend said that, to his knowledge, that Richardson wasn't doing anything except smoking weed, though, around 13. That's when he started with that, though. But when he was about 14, his friend said that he observed Michael now hanging out with and talking to gang members, people who are obvious gang members. You know your neighborhood. You know who's in a gang. You know who's who a gang. You know who's who, yeah. Yeah. He told Richardson, his friend said, to stay away from them.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You shouldn't fucking hang out with those guys. And he said he didn't. He said he stopped hanging out with those guys when he gave him kind of a heads up. His friend said, I never knew him growing up to be part of a street element or involved in drugs. He was an athlete. That's how I understood michael street element and that's a lot of times too when you get like a very when you get a bad neighborhood or there's a lot of gang a lot of gang activity and shit you'll get like you'll get if someone's an athlete basically that person's kind of exempt from shit there there's a different
Starting point is 00:20:21 there's different classes and like the athletes are like they're not expected to be street people like they're not expected to be hang out with gang members and do all that. But they'll still get a certain amount of respect. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. Because the athletes. So it's right. It's a different level. It's all you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:20:40 It's like they can or something. So they can hang around that that uh gang member and not have to do anything bad that's what i mean they get that like he's got to go and shit gets weird because he's got he's an athlete it legitimizes that that quote-unquote crew because they've got they've got an actual a dude that's going places hangs out with us that's a big deal and then the athlete feels tough and cool because he's hanging out with the cool street people. It's a mutual copulation one way or another. It's a circle jerk, yeah. So that's what he does.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He's playing football. He loves football. He's very athletic. He's tough. And he plays linebacker in high school. So he's smaller, but in high school you can get away with that. And he was an All-American at Compton High. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Absolutely. He was the first defensive player to win California Player of the Year. So that's how good he was. Wow. First defensive player to pull that off. That's impressive. That's really impressive. People were after him big time.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Recruiters. I mean, it was all hands on deck here in 1979. He chose Arizona State. Interesting. Could go anywhere. Why did he choose Arizona State? Oh, because ain't no party like a Tempe party. That's right. Because a Tempe party certainly don't stop.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And that's exactly why he chose Arizona State. Is that right? Yep. And especially back then. ASU has slid down the list of top party schools because now they're into like now if you go there you're like there's a lot of this there's a shitload of indian kids doing engineering this they don't look like they're up till five in the morning part because it's seven and they're doing work so i don't see is there a giant math program around here because where are
Starting point is 00:22:20 all the blonde girls that got off that's not yeah not, yeah, I don't see any of those. They don't exist anymore there. No. And it's once they moved, because frat row, because of all the rapes and stuff that were happening down there, they moved fucking, they moved, no, James, I swear it has something to do with this. This college is so fucking crazy that they were like, we have to physically move where people are because there's too many rapes. It's just rape after rape.
Starting point is 00:22:45 We really got to move stuff. But it was driving up the crime rate on campus. So they moved all the frats and sororities off campus. And since they moved all that shit away. Take that, city of Tempe. Fuck off. That's your responsibility now. Campus security has no part in this.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Wow. We'll be investigating none of this. We know more rapes are going gonna happen and we don't want any part of it essentially but as soon as they got rid of all that shit all the can't the parties fucking dropped they plummeted yeah there's nothing there anymore and now you know it's just like a lot of engineering stuff and math stuff and i mean i'm sure there's some partying still don't get me wrong but it's not what it was right it's an old man thing to say but but when i was when i was in high school and
Starting point is 00:23:25 and when i probably should have been in college that's about the peak of when when the cool stuff was there yeah it started to drop off not that i not that me not being a part of it made it uncool but as soon as i stopped being old enough to go to that shit it plummeted their whole outdoor jimmy didn't show up to the party so you know what no put put the keg away he's not coming the guy that all the girls said no to won't be here it's it's no seriously shut it down nope don't hand out any more cups only only start the party if he shows up to be told to go home yeah we're not no we're not raping tonight it's off it's off no the friday night rape is off we're not doinging tonight. It's off. It's off. No, the Friday night rape is off. We're not doing it this time.
Starting point is 00:24:07 All this sexual criminal activity. We're going to stop that now because Jimmy's not here. Yeah, we were keeping it warm for Jimmy, but he's not coming, so fuck it. Never mind. But that's why he went. Party school. That's fascinating. In the 80s, it was party school.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Mill Avenue was the shit. I mean, yeah, he loved it. Plus, he liked the idea of living in Phoenix because Phoenix was a much smaller place back then. For him, there was like maybe half a million people in the valley in 1983. Maybe. All suburbs involved now, James. There are five million people in Phoenix. It's huge.
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's huge. That's crazy. And this was like, you know, it was small. North Phoenix didn't exist really. Right. And then the other part was. Bell Road was dirt back then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Suburbs were there was there was no city in between them. Yeah. Yeah. And the suburbs were farms. I mean, that's what it was. Gilbert Gilbert was lettuce farms. It wasn't there was a fucking no houses there. Places like that.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Surprise. Was that even a fucking named town back then? It was named in like a long time ago but it was like it was literally called that because the lady said she'd be surprised if it would become anything well there you go i'm still i agree with her i still agree with her i'm surprised anybody lives there every time i go there yeah it's like this is a big surprise that people came all the way out here it's a big surprise cars make it out here i'm pretty surprised about this i gotta be honest with you this is just the desert there's nothing here this is bullshit oh man so a teammate and friend of his said we partied we drank a lot of alcohol we smoked a lot of pot toward our senior year cocaine
Starting point is 00:25:37 got introduced and we started doing cocaine oh this is early 80s i mean in phoenix especially phoenix has never been a hard place to get drugs it's that's one thing about phoenix of any time never been difficult to get drugs that's that's an early adopter of of recreational cocaine use i think too in in in arizona because i didn't i don't i don't recall that time of of life knowing well then i'm yeah i was a child in new york it was huge it was huge and oh god yeah in new york it was huge since the fucking early 70s i mean it was the first place it got big well they're in miami obviously yeah my sister's dad got arrested for cocaine possession in like 88 and my mom was she was like where do you even find that everywhere go to the circle k everywhere trust me plenty of it
Starting point is 00:26:30 i remember saying that though and i was just like what really i get you some if you're looking i'm eight i'll find yeah i know a guy trust me somebody's mom's got that stashed away and he knows i was just baffled that i mean i'd already seen it in movies by then i was baffled she was like so baffled yeah yeah really wow okay seems easy from what i've seen mom you're pretty shelter yeah jesus get out more get out more you're lame so the thing is though when you're fucking, this doesn't affect you on the field. Yeah. Unless you're doing it to an extent where you're hung over on the field and all that.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You're 20. You bounce back when you're 20. Oh, boy. You're fine. So he's fine. Out in the sun, you sweat it out. You're okay. That's what he did.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Run an A mountain. Yeah, that's it. There you go you're fine he's moved to safety in his freshman year because oh a little small for linebacker in college he's thin is the problem it's not the height that's the issue it's he was 190 pounds yeah he's a 187 is not a not a linebacker i mean that's that's a rough that's rough for a linebacker so he does great at safety right away, excels. He's named an honorable mention in the All-Pac 10,
Starting point is 00:27:51 and he won the team's Outstanding Freshman Award. Fuck. So, I mean, he's a bad motherfucker. 1979 with ASU, they're 6-6 under that Frank Cush asshole. Cush, yeah. Who I believe, yes, this is when he left. He only coached half the season this year. Really? Yeah, remember he got fired for the whole issue.
Starting point is 00:28:07 For abusing kids? For abusing all these kids, yeah. He got shit-canned for that, and then obviously gets hired by Baltimore because you want to give that guy a fucking promotion. Well, and, you know, ASU can fucking suck it with their high horse of, we fired him because he was bad.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You named your fucking field after him. Yeah, then they named the field after him, and then he was there all the time yeah you're not ashamed no shit and also i love when a coach like that goes to the pros because you know for a fact they're not going to succeed it's the reason why bobby knight never coached in the nba because if you treat a fucking pro like that they'll knock you on your fucking old ass i dare you to say some shit to spree well dare you that's what i to Sprewell. Dare you. That's what I mean. Yeah. Well, a football team.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You're going to go to an NFL team and you're going to tell a man who's 30 years old and has three kids and a mortgage and puts food on his table by knocking other grown men fucking unconscious. You're going to grab him by the face mask and yell in his face. He's going to spike you on the fucking ground like a ball. You're nuts. You're going to need a couple new hips and the reason why john elway is a fucking bronco is because he would not play for frank kush in
Starting point is 00:29:12 baltimore is that right it wasn't that baltimore sucked or they were a shit franchise he said i'm not playing for that asshole and his dad was a coach too his dad said you're not playing for that asshole he's an asshole and he coaches offense like shit, and I'm not quitting you there. And John played him being in the Pac-10 because he was with Stanford. His dad knew him because he's a coach, and he said, he's an asshole. I'm not letting my kid play for that fucking guy. It's not happening. I'll bet you they recruited him, and he refused to come here.
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Starting point is 00:31:35 by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Yeah, so anyway, that year they go six and six. So there's a mediocre ASU team. And that's why you get fired. Not good. You don't beat kids and lose.
Starting point is 00:31:50 That's the thing. If you beat kids, you better be national champion. Whatever, yeah. You better be national champion. There is a shitload of NFL players on this team. There is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12 NFL players on this team. I mean, say what you want about beating kids, but it makes them successful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Three NFL quarterbacks on the roster this year. Who? That is fucking impressive. They have Mark Malone. Remember, he's a very traditionally handsome guy with a mustache that was on ESPN a lot in the late 80s, early 90s doing the football stuff. Mark Malone. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah, he's on like primetime. He was a quarterback for ASU. Yeah, he was Pittsburgh's quarterback in the 80s for a long time. He replaced Bradshaw. That guy, he was their quarterback. Mike Pagel, who played for the Colts and also the Browns there. I remember him. Oh, the Browns.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Okay. Yeah, he was like a backup that would start sometimes. I was going to say Bengals, but that's Ohio, so all right. Yeah, close enough. Orange. There's orange in there. There's orange Ohio, so all right. Yeah, close enough. Orange. There's orange in there. There's orange in Ohio. Who gives a shit?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Close enough. Sandy Osiki, who I don't know who that is, but they have an NFL logo next to the name. So Robert Weathers, a running back. Gerald Riggs, who was a good running back for the Redskins. And did he go to Tampa for a while? Is that Riggs? Gerald Riggs. Is he related to John, you while? Is that Riggs? Gerald Riggs. Is he related to John, you think?
Starting point is 00:33:07 No, that's Riggins. That's Riggins. No, this is a black guy. He's definitely not related to John. Certainly not related. Certainly not related to John. Not even close. Not the same.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Alvin Moore, another running back. Newton Williams, another running back. Wide receiver John Mistler. Bernard Henry and Melvin Hoover, which is a great name for a fucking receiver. Hell yeah. Hoover. You throw him the ball, he just sucks it right in. Yeah, he can't get away from him.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's a great name. And then two tight ends, too. Ron Wetzel and Jerry Bell, also, in the NFL. Wow. Of course, beat him into the NFL. Oh, wait, and then also Vernon Maxwell. Not that Vernon Maxwell. Not that one. Ron Brown, another one. So actually add four more.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And then Mike Black, another guy who made the NFL. So all these guys. He played in 12 games. He had two interceptions that year. Mike did. Does pretty well. In 1980, he makes the second team All-Pac 10 under Daryl Rogers. They went seven and four.
Starting point is 00:34:05 He had eight interceptions that year. Sophomore year. That's great. Yeah. All-American honorable mention. And AP all-American honorable mention. And teammates voted him defensive MVP in his sophomore season. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:20 That's some good shit. That's pretty impressive, man. That's very impressive. Eight interceptions is very impressive. That's a lot. Yeah, well, your teammates being a sophomore, too, because back then nobody came out early. So there's fifth-year seniors on the team. You're a true sophomore.
Starting point is 00:34:34 You were playing your redshirt year. And he's taken eight away and given the ball back to the offense. That's huge. Yeah, and that'll get you the team MVP. He played in 11 games that year, had eight interceptions, and he, not bad at all, two touchdowns too, actually. Oh. He's been returned two for touchdowns, so Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Jesus Christ. He's nasty. That's a monster, yeah. He's a monster. Well, he is a monster, we'll find out, but on the field, yes. So as a junior, he really, really had a good season. He leads the league again, or leads the team, with six interceptions, which interceptions, a lot of them are luck.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah, a lot of them are just errant passes that go through some hands and bounce. It's rarely well-played coverage and then taken away. It's rarely a one-on-one matchup down the sideline where you take it from the receiver. Those happen, but when you get a guy with 11 picks on the year, five of those were tipped up in the air. It's just luck involved. It happens to happen over time. But he has six.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So between six and eight, there's not a big difference. That could be two balls that weren't tipped. He is named a consensus All-American that year, which he becomes just the sixth player in ASU history to be a consensus All-American. Sixth ever? In history, yeah. Wow. First
Starting point is 00:35:56 team All-Pac 10, and ASU that year finished at 9-2. Wow. Thumping him, yeah. That is awesome. He was an all-american he appeared on bob hope's nbc christmas special in 1981 with the all-american they used to do those every year the bob hope christmas special where they'd have you know all these different and murray'd come fucking sing a song and then they'd bring out the the whole all-american football team
Starting point is 00:36:20 for some reason and show them to you here they are there there's a guy there's a guy so uh yeah they're i mean not the team's getting better he's getting better yeah not too bad 80 stay four years yes 82 he is team captain in 82 hell yeah i mean that's fuck man he so he's a leader too that's the other thing not just defensive captain team captain he finished as a season that year with 127 tackles that's crazy for 11 12 games that's a lot named a consensus all-american becoming just the second asu player to accomplish that twice second he had 112 tackles in one season 27 127 in one season yeah which is like it's gonna be the most ever that's like an nfl linebacker rate of tackling that's 10 tackles a game if your safety
Starting point is 00:37:14 has 127 tackles you're fucking your defensive line is porous because that terrible yeah a lot of running backs are being even play yeah i mean that means a lot of running backs are getting past that first level, and that's not good for you as a team. Are you sure that's not his career at ASU? No, that is his season in 82. Wow. That's a lot. And they might blitz him, too.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I don't know. He's a safety, but he has probably a linebacker mentality. He's also two-time Playboy magazine All-American, which that's a party. You get to go play. They have that, and you'd get to go to the Playboy mansion. Are you serious? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:49 They used to do the Playboy All-American team, and Hugh Hefner would have all the guys. Nobody would not show up to that shit. No. Yeah. I got to go. Even some of those fucking Christian guys from Alabama would be like, well, I mean, I can't be rude to the man. It's Mama's birthday, but I was invited.
Starting point is 00:38:04 He got all them titties out for us. I can't tell him not to. It's just rude, Mama. They went through the trouble of unclasping those bras. You know how hard that is. Mama, I'm telling you right now, Mama, I'll be here for next year's birthday. Mama, they said the lupus wasn't that bad. You're going to survive.
Starting point is 00:38:21 It's going to be okay. I promise you. And keep your sugars down. Keep your sugars down. They done took you one foot. You don't want to lose the other. That's what he did. Yeah, he went to go party there, which I imagine that was quite the fucking party in 1982.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Oh, forget it. You were just doing lines of coke off of boobs in 82, right? That's what the party was. There was no treating women nice back then. No, God. That was just if her titties are out, do what she wants. Hugh was like, how many would you like? And then he'd just send some with you probably.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Here, wait, take some coke to do off their titties. Jesus, that's half the fun. What are we doing here? Don't forget your robe. Here, here you go. Wait, there you go, smoking jacket now. So in 82, though, they have a great season. I mean, they really kick some ass.
Starting point is 00:39:11 ASU does their 10-2 that year, which is pretty goddamn impressive. They go all the way to the Fiesta Bowl that year. Really? Where they defeated Oklahoma, who's a national powerhouse. Wow. This put ASU in national conversation. I was just going to say, there's no way that ASU was considered a viable football team before this. No, I mean, they had that one in the 70s under Cush.
Starting point is 00:39:35 They had that one big moment. Was it Rose Bowl or something? It had to be something. Something like 77, but then it went away, and then this kind of made them back in prominence. And especially it's in prominence because a bunch of these guys went to the NFL. Yeah. Generally, when kids are coming out of college to go to schools, back then they'd look at how often are they on TV, number one. And number two, how many players from those teams go to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Does that coach produce NFL draft picks? Because that's what you want. So that's what he'd go. So, yeah, in the last two years he was there they went 19 and 4 unbelievable not too shabby he has 18 career interceptions which is um uh he has more one more than uh mike haynes who was had the most in school history and uh what Was that the guy that played for the Patriots or the Michael Haynes that played for the Saints? Mike Haynes, the Raiders corner from back in the day. Oh, corner. Yeah, he's the old Raiders corner.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Oh, yeah, yeah, because of the interceptions. Yeah, with the interceptions. So, yeah, I mean, they're still producing a lot of NFL players, too, here, having a damn fine time. So he does well. He's recognized as an All-american in 81 and 82 um doing fantastic so april of 1983 nfl draft comes around the the storied 1983 nfl draft this is the most famous draft in nfl history there's an amazing fucking incredible documentary about really on yeah from elway to marino the is that right the espn it's have i seen that i i if you haven't jesus christ jim it's all
Starting point is 00:41:12 about john elway and how that all i mean it's how they got the broncos got elway as a bronco fan you should watch it but it goes through the whole draft because there's all sorts of fuckery going on this is the draft where Dan Marino went 27th because everybody thought he was selling Coke. When he wasn't, it was fucking ridiculous. So I don't even need to ask you. Number one player picked in the 83 draft, John Elway, to Baltimore, of course, where he wouldn't play.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Right, and he said, fuck you. Not doing that. He almost ended up on the Raiders, Jimmy. He was that close. Oh, is that right? Oh, they had a deal, and the NFL disallowed it. Pete Rozelle said, no, no, no, no, no, the Raiders aren't getting John L. Because he was always in a fight with Al Davis.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Yeah. So by rights, they should have been able to get him, but it didn't work out that way. The Bears tried to get him. So who went to Baltimore for the trade? The offensive lineman. It wasn't a trade, was it? Chris Hinton. Chris Hinton, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Oh, boy. Chris Hinton, who was Denver's pick at number four, who was an offensive tackle. He went to Baltimore in the trade and also draft picks and all that shit. Number two overall, Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson. Yeah. Jesus. Number three is Kurt Warner, not the quarterback Kurt Warner. Kurt with a C, the Seahawks running back, who's a solid serviceable running back.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Worthy, yeah. But not in this draft. He shouldn't have been number three overall. He's not in competition. He's not Dickerson. It's not between him and Dickerson. No. It's not even close.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Billy Ray Smith. Jimbo Covert, who's a Hall of Fame Chicago Bear tackle, went number six. Todd Blackledge, this is where the quarterbacks start coming. This is where Marino's seeing guys picked ahead of him. Todd Blackledge, obviously. Michael Haddix, a very mediocre Philadelphia running back who didn't do anything. Bruce Matthews goes after that, the Hall of Fame Houston slash Tennessee guard. Terry Kennard, the Giants defensiveews goes after that the hall of fame houston slash tennessee guard terry canard the giants defensive back goes after that number 14 is jim kelly is oh wow and he said the one
Starting point is 00:43:14 place i will not play is buffalo i don't want to fucking live there he's from pittsburgh he said i'm not i played in miami i don't want to fucking go to buffalo i'm not going back to that shit and that's the team that drafted him he went fuck and then he went and played in the. I don't want to fucking go to Buffalo. I'm not going back to that shit. And that's the team that drafted him. He went, fuck. And then he went and played in the USFL for three years, two years. I'll tell you what. I'll play here if I get to disappoint all of you fucks four years in a row. Four years.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'm going to get you back for making me live here. So Kelly, that's a decent pick. But then Tony Eason after that is picked. Again, not anywhere near Dan Marino's no skill level other guy Willie Galt the Chicago wide receiver who's really good Joey Browner who's an excellent Minnesota defensive back for years Gary Anderson who was a longtime Tampa Bay running back in San Diego all these guys Gabe Rivera who was a they called he was a really really good nose tackle who was a big, tough son of a bitch, and Pittsburgh drafted him, and then he got in a terrible car accident
Starting point is 00:44:10 and broke his neck immediately. Oh, no. Yeah, terrible. Jim Jeffcoat, the Dallas defensive end. Ken O'Brien, 24, at quarterback for the Jets. Ken O'Brien. Ken O'Brien. And then, number 27, finally, Dan Marino being picked.
Starting point is 00:44:27 So he's like, Ken fucking O'Brien you pick over me? All right. Blackledge? Blackledge? Ken O'Brien? I remember that. I remember those names. Watch me in the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Watch me put on a green jacket. And then Daryl Green, also the Hall of Famer, Washington cornerback for you. So in that first round, six Hall of Famers. Wow. Incredible draft. Then finally here, his teammate, by the way, Arizona State teammate, is the first selection of the second round, and that is Vernon Maxwell. He gets picked there.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And then finally, number 33 overall, right after Henry Ellard, the wide receiver for the Rams for years, who, by the way, was the other side of the field from Flipper Anderson, your buddy. I do have a Christmas ornament to never forget. That's that Flipper is not a dolphin. People wear T-shirts to remind you that Flipper is not a dolphin. God damn it. So number 33, the Chicago Bears choose Mike Richardson.
Starting point is 00:45:26 So he's ready to go. And other good players drafted in the second round, Darryl Talley, the great linebacker for Buffalo. Roger Craig goes later in that. Is that right? San Francisco running back and then the Raiders. Yeah, he goes later on. So quite a few good players in this draft here. Not too shabby at all and then obviously i have to ask you
Starting point is 00:45:46 who's the first player picked in the fifth round the 1983 draft jimmy you'd you'll never believe it randall cunningham sounds like somebody's agent got drafted by accident uh they looked at the sheet and they were like oh yeah him that. But they accidentally read the agent's name. Sid Abramowitz. That guy played in the NFL? Sounds like a real name of one of the Beastie Boys. Are you kidding me? Sid Abramowitz?
Starting point is 00:46:16 That's an NFL player who went to Tulsa. Sid Abramowitz went to Tulsa. Out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. Very disappointing. There's no bagels in this town. For four years I've been, and there's nothing. It's just beef. No bagels this is ridiculous. They make
Starting point is 00:46:31 beef donuts, for Christ's sake. He'd be walking around Tulsa like me, walking around going, there's no fucking sauce in this town! Where is it? So, that's amazing. Oy vey, my cholesterol. Oy vey, the cholesterol cholesterol all these hush puppies my god so yes sit a brum what's not your expected uh nfl draft pick there he was picked by baltimore
Starting point is 00:46:54 how'd he do how was his career um doesn't look good 22 games this is NFL wow he got 22 out of it he squeezed 22 out of it not too shabby but not that great
Starting point is 00:47:12 almost two seasons Jesus Christ so he gets drafted by the Bears and this Bears defense even in 83 was really coming up as a badass defense
Starting point is 00:47:22 yeah it was very well it was respected yeah that 85 is obviously the peak of it but on his first day of training camp they said was really coming up as a badass defense. Yeah, it was very well. It was respected. Yeah, that 85 is obviously the peak of it. But on his first day of training camp, they said, you're going to switch positions, first of all. Really? We drafted you to be a cornerback, not a safety.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So get on over there on the wing there, Chief. Interesting. Which is tough, yeah. So Leslie Frazier, who's a third-year cornerback, invited Richardson to stay on the field after practice to work on his technique and shit. Like, I'll show you footwork. It's all about footwork, to not fall down running backwards. Body position. Yeah, body position is fucking everything in that position.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yep. And Frazier said he was so eager to learn and very humble. So he loved him. He thought he was a great guy. He also connected with Richard Dent, who's a tremendous, amazing defensive end. One of the best. Jesus. Dent, he was also drafted around this time.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Hall of Famer, too, isn't he? I believe he might be. If not, he's fucked. He's got to be in the Hall of Fame. I think he's one of those guys that we always go, why isn't Richard Dent in the Hall of Fame? Of all. I think he was like a Harry Carson who finally got in. I think he was one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:48:21 But they ended up, they were drafted at the same time, and they bought condos in the same building as well. So, yeah, they were hanging out. Dent said, he taught me how to play bones. His mother and my mother became tight. Like dominoes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Dominoes and the moms are hanging out.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Hilarious. We're playing chicken foot. Fuck yeah. He said that he was amazed, Richard Dent was, at the amazing banana pudding that Mike Richardson made. That he makes. That he makes. This guy can throw together a banana pudding like nobody's business, which is the last thing you expected me to say about him. Guy's got a blender, for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 00:49:00 It's unbelievable. He expected me to say he can break up a line, get lines of Coke out faster than anybody else. No, no, no. Banana pudding is what he makes. Banana pudding and cocaine. This is better than a snack pack. It's amazing. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Well, he said it was almost as good as his own mother's. Oh, and mom makes it, too. So he knows good pudding. Yeah, that's what I mean. He said it's and his mother's is the best he ever had. And this is a close second. Wow. Michael Richardson's banana pudding.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah. Wow. So they ended up, they practiced in Georgia. Their training camp was down there for some reason that year. And they brought Richardson, Dent brings Richardson to his mother's house in Atlanta to make banana pudding for her. To go, you got to see how good he can make banana pudding. So he had to go to this guy's mom's house and perform and make banana pudding for which is amazing so the kitchen's that way we'll see in a little bit yeah bears are eight and eight this year and uh they needed a little
Starting point is 00:49:56 more offense that's the problem here eight and eight mike ditka's the coach and um you know this is a famous team as mike singletary richard dent if. If you're a wrestling fan, Mongo Steve McMichael is on this team. I mean, this is like Jim McMahon, all of the famous Bears guys. Dan Hampton. The fridge comes in 85. So the fridge will come later. Yeah, yeah. He was a rookie when they won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Really? Yeah. That's why he was such a big thing because he was a rookie. Wow. He was considered so big at the time, which obviously he wasn't compared to now. Now he's tiny. Now he's tiny. But this is quite the squad here of badasses.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And immediately he becomes a starter pretty goddamn fast. Is that right? On a team like this, under Buddy Ryan and everything, that's brutal to break into the lineup that fast. And he plays all 16 games, starts 14 at cornerback, and has five interceptions and two fumble recoveries also. So pretty goddamn impressive. So they weren't playing when he was in high school and college. They all recognized this kid's got something different. Yeah, there's something different.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Three different positions he's played at every level. He knows what he's doing. He played a different position, and right away he gets it and he goes. Football acumen through the roof. Yeah, there's something different. He can just, three different positions he's played at every level. He knows what he's doing. He played a different position, and right away he gets it and he goes. Football acumen through the roof. Yeah, just amazing. So 84, they're 10-6, the Bears are. They go to the playoffs this year. This is like the warm-up for 85, the warm-up run.
Starting point is 00:51:17 They go to the playoffs. They beat Washington 23-19. Then they get beat by the Niners who go on to win the Super Bowl that year, beating the Dolphins in the Super Bowl. They lose 23-0 to Then they get beat by the Niners who go on to win the Super Bowl that year, beating the Dolphins in the Super Bowl. They lose 23-0 to the Niners. It was a very good team. Oh, boy. Very good, and they got thumped pretty hard,
Starting point is 00:51:34 which happens. You gotta go that... Also, Walter Payton. I forgot to mention him. Yeah. One of those you just assume obviously in Walter Payton. When's the last time you saw a blowout in the playoffs though that's a fucking rarity right yeah i guess i guess i i don't know i i have given up i can't remember i can't remember a blanking in the playoffs though if i want to watch the nfl i'll find an
Starting point is 00:51:58 old game on youtube and i mean old from like even from like eight years ago and before yeah and it's not for it's not because they're fucking soft now. No, it's not that at all. It's because I'm really, really, really sick of Kevin Hart, and I don't want to fucking see his face anymore. I'm tired of it. I'm fucking sick of it. Yeah, but if I tune in, I'm going to see his fucking face.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I'm going to see him on every fucking commercial embarrassing himself, talking like he's really sitting there worried about his FanDuel bets. He's got $100 million. He doesn't fucking care about it. And I'm sick of it. I bet he's got more than that. There's a commercial they constantly play now where there's these guys sitting there and they're like, garbage time shouldn't be garbage time. And they show people leaving at the end of a game.
Starting point is 00:52:36 It's like 35 to 7. Garbage time isn't garbage time if you're betting on every play. Yeah. Even when the game's out of hand still fucking put your family's hard-earned money in throw it in i'm fucking right i don't care gambling is do whatever you want but if you can't advertise cigarettes on fucking television but you can advertise that at the click of a button give us all your fucking money so you can't pay your mortgage and there's so many people who i cannot handle that and it's
Starting point is 00:53:05 so easy now and garbage time is when you throw your money in the fucking garbage throw in the still yeah you can still waste your family's money on whether or not they will fucking get this third and six let's find like no stop it's it's it's gotten out of control where like yeah this is we're going to hear we're going to see so it's coming in the next three to five we're going to see so many stories about how much of this has fucking destroyed families it's insane it's and like i said i don't care it's anybody it's a vice it's your business i don't care don't fucking come to me exactly i don't want to i don't want to see a single go fund me about how yeah this shit ruined your life. Go fuck yourself. How garbage time turned out to really be his own garbage time. I'm sick of it, though.
Starting point is 00:53:47 You threw your 401k away through garbage time. Yeah, I feel like if I'm not looking to find a place to gamble or join the army, there's really no reason for me to watch a fucking NFL game, because that's really all they want me to do. It's really fascinating. I'm not interested in either. How we've gone from Pete Rose can't be in because of gambling, and now they make all this.
Starting point is 00:54:08 As if these players are 100% involved in this. They're absolutely gambling on this, right? They just can't. They can't gamble on. They're not going to gamble on sports because their contracts are so big. They're not going to gamble on sports. They've got to have a fucking burner email that they got to link to then. There's no way that these guys aren't doing it. Yeah, right. these guys aren't doing yeah right there you go that's their friend's place but they're
Starting point is 00:54:28 certainly being part of this since the beginning of time now it's just easier to do absolutely you know you back in the day they'd go to the bar and their one friend would he'd place the bets for him that way the guy wouldn't be yeah that's how they used to do it i mean it's got to be it's they've got to be a part of this so that it's just too accessible to act like none of these guys are are involved in it yeah that's it's far too accessible yeah so uh michael this year by the way his rookie year broke his wrist in october all right actually in 85 he ends up breaking his wrist but he still plays hurt anyway so wow that's uh that's not bad the nfc championship game though um he had a hard time. Everybody did.
Starting point is 00:55:07 They lost 23-0. But he couldn't cover Freddie Solomon, who did very well. And Buddy Ryan criticized him for playing poorly. And he said he plays bad on the West Coast for some reason. He said that that happens to Richardson before. I don't know what it is. He said that he, quote, didn't play worth a damn and called him a strictly an East Coast player. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Bad in that time zone. Or I don't know if he just hangs out with his friends beforehand. Maybe. I don't know what the fucking deal is, but his nickname also. Okay. Buddy Ryan, the defensive coordinator. Kind of a famous guy. If you're not familiar with Buddy Ryan, he's famous for being one of the most gruff.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He's a great defensive coordinator, but a real lunatic. Like there's a footage of him punching another coach on the sidelines, his own coach attacking him. They're on the same team. He hired him for pricing. So he's a crazy guy. He gave everybody nicknames all the time, and he called Richardson L.A. So everybody thought he's from Los Angeles. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:56:04 L.A. Mike. He said, no, that's not what I meant it for. L.A. So everybody thought he's from Los Angeles. That makes sense. L.A. Mike. He said, no, that's not what I meant it for. L.A. means lazy ass. Lazy ass Mike. He's lazy ass Mike. Not L.A. Mike. Not Los Angeles Mike. The guy's from Los Angeles, but I'm going to destroy that for him.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Lazy ass Mike. Hey, lazy-ass Mike. That's a great nickname, though. That's hilarious that Mike probably didn't even know that for several weeks. No, he told him, you're a lazy-ass L.A. Mike over here, and that was it. Buddy Ryan would tell you anything. Wow. He's trying to break your ass down, Buddy Ryan.
Starting point is 00:56:41 So, yeah, he does that, and everybody says one of al harris's teammate said quote mike was very easygoing and laid back i think sometimes that was being read as lazy because he's just not that raw guy yeah and a lot of guys too and this this happens to a lot of athletes is if you're an amazing athlete and you look and you look fluid and smooth people don't think you're you're going at a hundred realize you're trying because you're not herky-jerky but you're actually just like like good always just say that about joe dimaggio they said it looked like he was like just kind of jogging after balls but he was flying he was just very graceful and so that's you didn't realize he was going as fast.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And people would say that he was lazy. If he missed a ball, he'd be like, oh, Christ, if he ran harder, he could have got there. Meanwhile, he was flying. He was just graceful. So I think that you get doomed a lot of times on that. Sure. If you're too good of an athlete almost. So anyway, 84, he has two interceptions.
Starting point is 00:57:41 So good year there. 85, though. All right, here we go. The 85 Bears are 15-1. Wow, were they that good? That good. The only loss being that Monday night against Dan Marino and the Dolphins. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Only team to beat them, and Dan Marino was torching records everywhere. So, you know, that's to be expected. What week did they do that? It was like week 14. It was late. Yeah, so the Dolphins team also celebrated it when they beat them. Wow. Because they beat their undefeated season because no one else would have fucking beat them. It wasn't happening.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Wait till you hear these playoff numbers. And this was, if you were young and don't know, this team was fucking dominant. This is the Super Bowl shuffle. They made a goddamn song and posters and the fridge was on every commercial and this made it okay for their quarterback to have that stupid haircut a bandana and those dumb ass glasses he oh he was so famous though he's on every he was on every commercial jim mcmahon too i mean this this was was Walter Payton was on all these commercials. This was by far the glamour team of the United States at this point in time in football.
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Starting point is 00:59:42 They won against the Giants in the divisional game, 21-0. Jesus, blank them. Shut them out. Then they go against the Rams in the championship game and beat them 24-0. They shut out both of their, both weeks to get to the Super Bowl. Both of them.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Not fucking around. Then they go play New England and absolutely shit hammer them. I mean, this is, they gave the ball to the fridge and let him get a touchdown. Like, they were fucking around by the end of it. There's a lot of garbage time. There was a lot of garbage time. You could have lost everything you've ever worked for
Starting point is 01:00:13 in the garbage time of this game. What was that score of that Super Bowl? 46-10. They made it sound like, James, you know what I mean? Because I didn't watch it. I was too young of a boy. I was four years old, for Christ's sake. and I've seen the highlights of it and everything but I don't they
Starting point is 01:00:29 make it look like and sound like they gave it to fridge because it was 34 33 and they needed to get that touch it was fun ridiculous and Walter Payton is was was bitter till his dying day because they gave it to – Payton played for the Bears since the mid-'70s when they were terrible. He was the only thing they had for years. He ran more than anybody. He never missed a game, Walter Payton. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:56 He played for like 14 years without missing a fucking game. He's a fucking Iron Man. And they give it to Payton. And he's like, I don't get a touchdown in the Super Bowl. Really? Unbelievable. He was bitter about it until his dying fucking day that they gave the rookie. and they give it to and he's like i don't get a touchdown in the super bowl really and he's been he was bitter about it till his dying fucking day they gave the rookie who doesn't even play offense the touchdown rather than offense he doesn't even doesn't play forget this position he's not even on the field when all of us are yeah rather than in my opinion one of the top
Starting point is 01:01:20 three greatest football players who's ever played the game. To me, he's top three. You know, you can throw – I got a top five that you can kind of mix and match them however you want. They're all running backs? No, there's Jim Brown. Yeah, okay. Jim Brown, I think Walter Payton. No, running back, yes, but not player. Because Walter Payton did everything. He was a great blocker.
Starting point is 01:01:42 He was an incredible – he was a receiver. He was a great football player. All right. Jim Brown just did everything. He was a great blocker. He was an incredible receiver. He's a great football player. Jim Brown just changed everything. I think Deion and Lawrence Taylor are in there, and I think you can mix them around however you want, and I think that's my opinion anyway. Yeah, I mean, Deion was fine. Deion shut down.
Starting point is 01:02:02 He'd say, who's the best receiver, And then you'd throw twice in the hole. He would just take him out of the game. You'd never even throw to him. Jerry Rice, out of the game completely. Very few times has a DB made that much fucking noise. You know what I mean? For a long time lately, it was Daryl Revis and then the next one. None of them were Deion.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Nobody knew any DBs' names that was just a casual fan of the NFL. But everybody knew Deion Sands. Well, also, too, he was a great punt returner and a great kick returner as well. Like a great one, like an all-timer. And if he intercepted, you better fucking get him now. Because if he gets any steam,
Starting point is 01:02:40 it's over. He's running it back. I don't know if I put him up there, but he's in my top 10 of players just because he's so good. You couldn't have been any better at what he did. Yeah. But stringing words in the in English language together, not probably the best. That's a different.
Starting point is 01:02:55 That's that's a different kind of dumb as shit. But boy, on the football field, he's incredible. So 46 10 with that ass whooping there. Yeah. Here's a great story okay a young actress all right not like a child an adult aged young woman actress 20 22 yeah uh came to visit him in chicago for a weekend during the 85 season a girl he was talking to and his teammates were like yo that girl is fucking fine as shit that
Starting point is 01:03:25 girl is hot god damn where'd you get her he rather than hang out with her decided it'd be more fun to go hang out with his friends and go out drinking and ditch her what so he ditched her and the girl was real pissed off and never wanted to talk to him again and told him to go fuck himself. And do you know who that was? Brooke Shields. Halle Berry. You fucking idiot. What a moron. What a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Halle Berry. I think I'll go out with the guy. This is the level of dumb we're working with here this week. I'd rather go do coke than maybe sleep with and marry, perhaps. Maybe have a relationship with the top five hottest woman on the planet. An 85 Halle Berry? Oh, forget it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Imagine you're a young man. You're 23 years old. An 85 Halle Berry walks up to you and they say, you can either have sex with her or hang out with your friends, who you can hang out with anytime. What would you rather do? See you around, guys. Tell you what.
Starting point is 01:04:21 No, no, no. You can either have sex with her or we'll bring your dead grandfather back to life and you can hang out with him for the evening. You'd still go. Sorry, Pop-Pop. Pop-Pop had a good run. I'm just going to say that. Pop-Pop lived his life. If Pop-Pop saw her, he would know that this is the right decision.
Starting point is 01:04:39 He would tell me, you know what? I had a good run. I want you to have what I never had. How was she? She must have been 19 then yeah she was young she was so young yeah young on the rise and uh wow he's a fucking idiot he said his friends as she got famous too they all would make fun of him more and more and more like oh look that's your girl you dumb shit yeah that chick billy bob thornton banged and monster you
Starting point is 01:05:00 idiot damn she's hot so he was um buddy ryan liked to blitz a lot, and they would blitz him. The cornerback blitz was one of Buddy Ryan's famous things, which he didn't really like doing. He's a coverage guy, so he wasn't real into that. So he ends up being demoted to second string during the beginning of 1985, but then he won his job back in training camp. Buddy Ryan just wanted to fuck with him. Yeah, he wasn't going to demote him. He was just trying to motivate him. He was trying to put a fire under him.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Buddy Ryan later said he's really matured and got his priorities straight. He realized he was going to lose his fucking job if he didn't. Yeah, that's not bad. Then here he was in the Super Bowl shuffle video, which not the entire team is there. He's got his white wristbands on. And he's one of nine with shuffles, or with solos
Starting point is 01:05:52 in the shuffle. So nine guys, and it's Jim McMahon, Walter Payton, all the real famous guys. He's in the mix. That's how big he is. Michael Richardson gets a shake. Here we go. Quote. This is his words from the song. This his rap here it is oh dude oh god i'm la mike and i play it cool they don't sneak by me because i'm no fool i fly on the field and get on down everybody knows i don't mess around
Starting point is 01:06:20 hell yeah i can run down and around down and around i can break them shake them any time of day i like to steal it and make them pay so please don't please you're gonna use it a rap how often is the word please used in a rap you impose your will you tell them what to do if we and rap, or neither of those are please activities. So please don't try to beat my hustle, because I'm just here to what, Jimmy? Ah, do that Super Bowl shuffle. Super Bowl shuffle, bitches. That's right. He rhymed shuffle and hustle? He didn't rhyme shit.
Starting point is 01:06:59 They didn't write this. Someone wrote this. There's a marketing. He has to say that? Yeah. There was a marketing company that put this together, and they picked the guys, and they did all this. They gave them the words and said, all of this rhymes. Say this.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Okay. And they went, okay, and they said it. And then this is the same marketing company who, by the way, did the Wrestle Rock Rumble as well. That's why they sound exactly the same. I'm just here to do the Wrestle Rock Rumble. Remember that? It's the same thing. i'm just here to do the wrestle rock rumble remember that it's the same thing i'm just here to do the super bowl shuffle same shit um well the wrestlers sell it better still oh yeah yeah yeah well they're used to doing promos football players they don't go i don't know get your promo better there you just go out and play they don't care if
Starting point is 01:07:41 you can talk or not wrestling you gotta sell it i'm greg ghanian i'm in a rage you gotta really remember that one that was the best part i want brody and i want him to gauge yeah and the look on his face too he's like all red i'm in a rage oh man and then he has to say how do you say those two rhymes together and then say, just going to do the Wrestle Rock Rumble? I'm going to do the Wrestle Rock Rumble. Unbelievable. Oh, I love it so much. So Richard Dent said his favorite photograph, one of his favorites of all his playing days is a picture of him and Michael Richardson hugging each other after the Bears beat the Cowboys in 85-44 to nothing.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Wow. It was a shit-stomping. They were celebrating. That's a beating right there. Dude, they had two shutouts in the playoffs. Right. And they had a garbage-time regular season pummeling the Cowboys. That's how that defense was.
Starting point is 01:08:43 They would just tighten that vice around you and just beat the shit out of you the entire time. By the fourth quarter, you had nothing left to give in garbage time. You've been beaten. Is that Landry coached? The Cowboys, yeah, that's Landry's team. Yeah, wow. This is the downturn when they started him getting fired and everything.
Starting point is 01:09:00 But Dent said he had just scored his first NFL touchdown on a one- yard interception return and richardson had scored his first touchdown on a 36 yard interception return on the same day on the same day and uh dent showed the picture and said me and my best buddy we had a lot of fun together oh rich so rich yes that year like i said they win the super bowl so mike's got a ring on his finger here doing very very well. 86 Bears go 14-2. That's the thing. They didn't go in the shooter. Didn't stop, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:29 No, but they lost in the first round of the playoffs to the Redskins. Second round, though, because they had a bye, right? They had to. That's the divisional round, yeah. So that's the divisional round. And the Redskins ended up winning anyway that year. So there's no shame in that. They lost to the Giants in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Oh, really? Giants beat Denver. Yeah, Redskins beat Denver the next year. in 87 87 season yeah so um yeah that's how that one went and uh the bears this year too they got neil anderson their new running back there to try to you know replace walter payton that didn't work he was good but he's not walter fucking payton so um richardson was benched again in training camp in 86 for showing up two days late to camp. Really? Not two hours late, two days late, which is more. That's super late.
Starting point is 01:10:12 That's very late. It's really late. That's incredibly late. That's super late. You ever showed up for anything two days late? Imagine ordering a pizza and it showed up two days from now. You'd be pissed, wouldn't you? I think you might be pretty mad, yeah. You're not paying a pizza half it showed up two days from now you'd be pissed wouldn't you i think you're not might be pretty mad yeah you're not paying a pizza half a million dollars a year
Starting point is 01:10:29 either so you'd be really that's a great point you know and for for that late like i've been two days i've been two days late because of an airline if i was two days late to my flight they'd be like i don't know what to tell you man man. Yeah, that shit is long gone. Those people, they're living their lives right now, the people who are on that plane. Those people are all over the place now. Yeah, they're scattering. They're like kicking an anthill. They are everywhere. He said he was confused by the date he was supposed to report.
Starting point is 01:10:59 By two days? A football team invites like 100 people to camp. Yeah. Plus all the coaches. There's like 150 people that knew. Yeah. Plus all the coaches. There's like 150 people that knew the date and made it there just fine, but he was confused. So that's not good. Two days worth of confusion.
Starting point is 01:11:12 That's not great. But he ended up obviously getting a starting job back. Again, Buddy Ryan knows you have to demote him to light a fire under his ass to make him try hard or else he won't. That's how it works. 86 season, he starts all 16 games, seven interceptions this year. Jesus. The NFL, he's had five, two, four, and seven for interceptions. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:11:32 So, I mean, that is doing great. Really, really good. Yeah, the Bears, though, like I said, losing the playoffs early. 87, Bears go 11-4. That was the strike shortened strike shortened season that one remember 87 season was the one where Suge Knight played
Starting point is 01:11:49 for fucking the Rams you know so not a lot of beginning of the season was a mess this year they lose again to the Redskins
Starting point is 01:11:57 in the playoffs that's their time who go on to trounce Denver yeah with Doug Williams and Timmy Smith having that crazy game and all that shit
Starting point is 01:12:04 so yeah this year though I mean he's doing fine it's not his goddamn fault is the way he's looking at it um but in 87 in that season he was again missed the beginning of training camp this time though he's holding out he's doing it on purpose because he's not the highest paid defensive back on the team and he feels he should be really yeah so he's holding out which he's got seven interceptions and he's that's a lot to be the highest yeah i mean eight to twelve is like unbelievable yeah so he's got that's luck though yeah if you watch the film and you know that he's breaking passes up you know yeah just because he didn't have a couple extra balls tipped to him is not really that big of a deal. So he doesn't report to the training camp until shortly before the season begins, like last week of training camp.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah. And he's not a starter by then. So they've given someone else's job. Not only is he not the highest paid, he's not even a starter now. That was a mistake. Later in the season, he gets his starting job back, but then he gets demoted again. So he only starts six games this season. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah. All because he held out. He's fucking himself. He had no interceptions. Yeah. Nothing. Now he's not worth paying highest. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:13:21 They've made him. They go, oh, you think you're worth something? We'll make you not worth anything. Yeah. You know, that sucks. So 1988 Bears go 12-4 again. They were really a force in these 80s, but then they would get knocked out of the playoffs. They beat the Eagles
Starting point is 01:13:34 in the divisional round and then got trounced by the 49ers, 28-3, who went on to beat the hell out of Denver. No. No. No, no, no uh that was a close game against cincinnati sorry okay that was the the drive down the field with montana yeah not the catch that was 81 oh that long ago yeah that was clark in the back of the end zone this is the uh march down
Starting point is 01:14:00 the field uh yeah march down the field i think think John Taylor got the last touchdown, if I'm not mistaken. That's the catch, isn't it? No, no. That's Dwight Clark is the catch in 81 against the Cowboys in the NFC Championship. Taylor's the tight end that streaked across the back of the end zone? Taylor's a wide receiver. He was a rookie in like 87, 86. Was the tight end across the back?
Starting point is 01:14:21 In 81 or then? That's 81? 81 was Clark, Dwight Clark. That's right. You're right. It's Clark. I see the name on it right now in my head. And the footage, too, is older.
Starting point is 01:14:31 It's that 81. You're right. It's not the 80s. Yeah, the gold looks much more dim. Yeah. The 88 Super Bowl was the one where Tim Crumrise snapped his leg in half, and they kept showing it wiggle back and forth, the nose tackle for the Bengals. And they kept showing it because it went like a fish. It flopped back and forth.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Is that the one that Stanley was supposed to play in? I don't know. Oh, yes, yes, yes. That is the one. In the mud, yep. That absolutely is the one. And they lost because of him. That didn't help at all.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Idiot. So, yeah, the Bears, you know, they're going to the playoffs, but they're not the same as they used to be here. In 88 this year coming up, he gets his job back, but then he's only benched for one game because he failed to show up for a morning meeting the day before the game in Los Angeles. Why does he keep doing this? You can't just not show up. He said, misunderstanding. Okay. The meetings are the same fucking time every week the day
Starting point is 01:15:30 before a game. It never changes. But it was in his hometown? It was in Los Angeles, yeah. See? I wonder what happened. Yeah. The head coach said, I don't believe you. You're out partying with your friends, stupid. I know you.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Then they lost the in the 88 championship game the nfc championship game to the 49ers richardson got burned on a 61 yard touchdown pass to jerry rice though oh it's jerry rice every yeah show me a defensive back who never got burned by jerry rice but you don't want that right then no they lost 28-3 though you're blaming him wasn't even close the offense he didn't score three points did they expect to shut the niners out and win three nothing if not don't blame him if you lost seven to three blame him you lost 28-3 shut the fuck up so um yeah he was very mad at him for that and they they kind of talk shit about him for that that's crazy you didn't even Your whole team didn't even put seven on the board the
Starting point is 01:16:26 whole game. That's ridiculous. Yeah, I think that's a pissed off coach that's just looking to punch somebody. Coming up here in the 88 season, this will be his last season with the Bears, 88, Richardson. Mike Ditka tells
Starting point is 01:16:42 the press that he thought Richardson should have his vision checked because he wore glasses off the field. So he should make sure his vision's good because he's getting burned. When asked about the glasses, Richardson said the lenses were not prescription and he wore them because he liked the way they looked. Because I just wore them because they looked cool. Hey, coach, there's not even any lenses in these. Yeah, they's just glass. So that's really weird.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And his friend said, quote, he was just into being just right, making sure his hair was right and his clothes. He was a pretty boy in some ways like that. Uh-oh. So, yeah, a lot of cornerbacks are like that, though. They like to look pretty and be put together, and there's a certain style to a cornerback you know what i mean it's much like a wide receiver there's a certain you better be fucking great on the field if you want to keep pulling that shit the cornerbacks are your fighter pilots of the of the you know what i mean they're they're on the edge they're they're all out there all alone with the some that's it's a
Starting point is 01:17:43 different they're doing dog fights every play they're risking their job every fucking play They're all out there all alone. It's a different dog fight. It's true. They're risking their job every fucking play. And embarrassment. Right. Risking embarrassment big time because if somebody burns you, it is like, oh, ha ha, that guy got burned. And it's a whole thing. It must be great to have played back then because today, holy fuck, man, the reels on YouTube of a, you can type in any defensive back, burned, and they've got a fucking super cut of every play he's ever had
Starting point is 01:18:13 of him getting fucking just torched. Absolutely. It happens. Back then it would just stand out. So the Bears leave him unprotected in Plan B free agency. So they don't even, Plan that's they want to abort him they just don't even want him around he's getting plan b'd he got he got plan b'd that sounds that sounds rough for a player pharmacy he's getting yeah yeah that's uh i mean it's fine
Starting point is 01:18:37 for if you're doing whatever you got to do but for a player who's already he's already 26 years old we're gonna plan b him that That seems a bit harsh, right? That is tough. A little old for that. So he signs with the Raiders. Really? Signs with the Raiders. Yeah, they love a hard-hitting defensive guy,
Starting point is 01:18:54 and he's on that Bears defense. It seems like something Al Davis would want. What year is this? This is 89 season. Mike Shanahan's the head coach. Oh, wow. Really? At that point, yep.
Starting point is 01:19:04 And he makes Richardson a starter in training camp but then in a preseason game he gave up three touchdowns preseason oh fuck and the Raiders cut him wow they fucking cut his ass so later on in the year he's gonna
Starting point is 01:19:20 be picked up by San Francisco for the end of their run which is good for them because this is the year they beat the Broncos in the Super Bowl, I believe. 88, yeah. The 89 season. So January of 89, though, he appears in Playgirl magazine with Richard Dent and Dennis Gentry, another Bears player. Naked? No, wearing Speedos.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Okay. Like standing next to each other in Speedos here. How crazy is that? That if we'd never heard of Richard Dent today, you and I would be giggling about his name being Dick Dent. Yeah, Dick Dent, we would. But because I know him as Richard Dent, as an amazing football player, I didn't even correlate that until right now.
Starting point is 01:20:03 He's such a badass. He's earned richard you know what i mean like he's just earned it he's so good that's not that's not dick that's richard that guy is richard man i don't know what you're talking about old dick dent old dicky dent so uh the 89 49ers are 14 and 2 they're a juggernaut they're awesome they beat the shit out of the uh the v the Vikings in the playoffs. They beat the Rams 30-3 in the championship game. And then they crushed.
Starting point is 01:20:30 That was a horror. I hated watching that. I love Denver. And they crushed them 55-10 that year. And it could have been more. It looked like they were like, all right, you know, we'll take it easy now. Feels like it could have been more. They chose not to pour it on in garbage time.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah, it feels like they were just being nice after a while. It felt like there wasn't any gambling on games or something. Strange, right? Not mainstream, at least. Yeah. So this is the, I mean, Joe Montana's your starting quarterback, and Steve Young's your backup quarterback. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Hall of Famers all over the place. Just looking at this roster, you got Matt Millen, Tim McKay, Guy McIntyre, Ronnie Lott. These are legendary names. Hall of Famers, Charles Haley, fucking Pierce Holt. It was a great player. Brent Jones, the tight end. So many good fucking players on this team. Who was their running back?
Starting point is 01:21:19 Roger Craig. Roger Craig. Yeah, Roger Craig. Yeah, they were great. Tom Rathman at fullback. Remember him? They were great, man. What a good team.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I hated them. Bill Romanowski on this team. Jerry Rice. Jesus Christ. Yeah. We know all about him, everybody. That whole team is just Hall of Famer after Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:39 It's crushing. So this year, he only plays in three games with San Francisco. Yeah, and still gets a ring. And doesn't really do anything here. It's weird that after this, nobody wants him. Really? He's done. This is his NFL career.
Starting point is 01:21:57 It's over. He gets to pummel the Broncos, get a Super Bowl ring, and walk away and get nothing else ever again? Yeah, I don't think he even got a ring, though. I don't think he was on the team through the playoffs. I think he got dumped. Oh, he only played three early, huh? I think he played three earlies, yeah. So it's pretty sad.
Starting point is 01:22:15 He went from being, I should be the highest paid defensive back, this is bullshit, to two years later he's out of the league completely, done. Yeah, and a lot of wide receivers have pulled that shit and become the highest paid receiver it works he became the least attractive player in the nfl it's goddamn incredible so yeah he was only 28 he's done what the fuck yeah um dan hampton the lineman said that he was very good he He said, quote, he was more than competent, which is a compliment from him. They said that he had certain skills that a lot of people thought were amazing, so Mike was getting more safety help.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Okay, but we didn't worry about him. He would pop people, be an enforcer. He wasn't driven to be exceptional like Mike Singletary was. Damn good player, though. He would get safety help, so he would only play between hash mark and sideline well no it's just or at least chase him that way and if
Starting point is 01:23:10 the and the safety drags down the way they played it there there though it would they up front they they were so fucking such a swarming aggressive up front that it made everything different everything was different that 46 defense was not a defense that anybody else was playing. But if they're saying he got safety help and all he had to play was hash mark to sideline, that'll make you look great if that's all you're covering. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. If you're playing just like a zone.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Yeah, that will make you look good. But at the same time, if that's your scheme, though, that's your scheme. You can't help it. That's what Buddy Ryan wants to do true yeah so richardson was reserved they said he wasn't out of place though in the locker room um one of the defensive linemen tyrone keys said he never found himself in trouble good guy kind of to himself a lot at times perfect teammate that's all i can say about him by the way he would love around training camp to dick around he loved to ride a unicycle around training camp richardson richardson that was his
Starting point is 01:24:12 thing imagine him riding a unicycle holding a bowl of homemade banana pudding going look what i made for you guys like what kind of weirdo are you that is a wild person yeah it's very very fucking strange um they said but they that was who he was he was kind of a fun loving guy uh one of his teammates said he was very likable if you didn't like him you had a problem i don't ever remember seeing him get angry so yeah they said they just he just he made all of us laugh he said it was a goofy laugh they said um you know his teammates often imitated his laugh because it was like a goofy laugh. Okay. His parents came to almost all of his games, by the way, which is nice.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Yeah. Not too fucking bad. He bought his parents a new van. Okay. Here you go. This will replace your camper when you're monitoring the neighborhood. Yeah. Take this.
Starting point is 01:25:03 It's a white windowless. Sorry about it. Sorry about that. You're going It's a white windowless. Sorry about it. Sorry about that. You're going to look like a perv. Here, Dad, here's a step down in creepy. A white windowless van. Yeah. How about that?
Starting point is 01:25:12 Good? Here you go. Shortly after his career was over, both his parents passed away. Oh, no. Yeah. One of his friends said, I thought that was devastating for him.
Starting point is 01:25:22 After his dad died, not knowing which way to turn, Mike spiraled and lost his way in the game of life. Oh, boy. Remember his quote? Yeah. Yeah. His sister, Mary, said that her brother took a downward turn after their parents died, in part because he was remorseful that he wasn't there to show his support during their final days. He wasn't around, so it gave him a depression.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Some regret, yeah. So he goes back to Southern California, of course. Never go home. He's going home. And it was hard. He's only 28. Yeah, he's 28. He didn't make a shitload of money in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:26:00 And he's going back to L.A., the second most at the time probably expensive city in America that's the thing and he's at the same time too he's he's watching all the people who were drafted with him they're all still playing every weekend right and then he's like oh I have to go get a job now yeah the refrigerator still has a career yeah that's what I mean like fuck this is rough so um he does all sorts of shit. They said basically for the next five years, all he's doing is partying and ripping through whatever money he has left. Oh, no. Not doing well here.
Starting point is 01:26:35 In 1992, he's arrested, and he's going to end up having some problems here. He's going to be convicted of selling or transporting a controlled substance cocaine yes that's what i believe and he is sentenced to you sir may fuck off four years in prison for that steep in 92 yeah and then later on he's arrested for drugs again a couple years after he gets out of prison and he's again um sent for a four-year term. He has two bids as long as his career in the NFL. That's wild. And once again, remember the quote, I just lost focus. Yeah. I would say.
Starting point is 01:27:17 In the 90s then, after all of this, he's done his jail time. Because he got sentenced to four. He didn't do four. So he gets out. He's got to get his shit together and find a job. Hell, yeah. He needs a job now. He has no money and no prospects.
Starting point is 01:27:32 So also he's had a kid. He got married briefly. That didn't last long. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, he's decided he's always interested in cars. His dad used to own a wrecking yard. So he's like, he's interested in cars. His dad used to own a wrecking yard, so he's interested in cars. So a friend was selling cars under a tent on weekends,
Starting point is 01:27:51 having tent sales of cars. People that buy a bunch of cars and whatever. Wholesale, yeah. Wholesale them, basically. So Richardson went and helped out. So then he went to auctions as well and would purchase used cars and sell them to dealerships. So he would do that when he got to be a good deal.
Starting point is 01:28:08 It led to him becoming a salesman for Elmore Toyota in Westminster, California. Oh, my God. I think Richard Dent is still playing at this point. Yes. He played until like 95. Can I interest you in a 4Runner is what he's asking. Shit. How's the NFL going?
Starting point is 01:28:29 These new Camrys are out of control. Seriously, you got to come in and test drive one. They're going to lead the market for 30 years. 30 years. You got to come in and test drive one. Wow. He worked 1 to 9, 1 to 9 p.m. That was his shift.
Starting point is 01:28:40 A whole eight-hour shift. Yes. Selling cars. That's it. But the thing is, for him, that 85 bears, that is really a stamp because he was in the Super Bowl shuffle song. So he can use that in regular life into something small like a car dealer. Something little like that can really make a big difference for you to make a decent living. And on his business card it said,
Starting point is 01:29:07 Mike Richardson, 85, Super Bowl world champion. Oh, my God. Yep, that's on his business card, 10 years after the fact. Do you think Oliver Miller has that on his business card? I sure shit hope so. What is his business card for? 1992 Western Conference champion. He sells cars. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Oliver Miller will eat for food is that what he says i'll put on a an eating display if you'll give me more food yeah he'll he'll put on a display that will shock you and your family and then he gets more food for that that's what he wants to reward we'll eat for food we'll eat for food oh by the way 93 western conference champion oh man he would wear a super bowl ring while he's selling cars has to right let me show you some of the features as he's waving his hand around wave that big fat
Starting point is 01:30:05 fucking ring all over the power window have a diamond catch the sun oh this this is my super ball ring have you happened to have heard of william the refrigerator i was on that team have you seen the super bowl shuffle you want to hear i'm la mike and i'm here to say how hilarious is that he had to say say, I'm lazy-ass Mike. I'm lazy-ass Mike. Lazy-ass Mike. And I'm here to say. I'm not as good at this as a wrestler anyway.
Starting point is 01:30:38 That's right. I'd rather be doing coke anyway. I'd rather be doing coke anyway. I'd rather be doing coke anyway. So his friend said, quote, he was a very good salesman. Michael had the gift of gab and the ability to personalize you in conversations. He had a kind of intensity that if you were in the room with him, you would be attracted to his charisma. He's turned it from being sad and embarrassing to success. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:31:04 This is what I got. I got to run with it. I mean, take everything you have and put it out there. Why hide your best asset, which is you might know who I am. Yeah. You know, which makes you trustworthy. Right. Oh, I know him.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Yeah. He wouldn't sell us a lemon. The man played football. I know that guy. I saw him on TV. Whereas if it's some guy you never met, he could leave tomorrow, run away, and never find him. What was that guy's name? Chip?
Starting point is 01:31:28 Chad? I don't even fucking remember. He had a tattoo on his neck. That's all I know. Oh, God. No wonder why I didn't. I knew this was going to happen. So he said one day he wanted to own his own car dealership here.
Starting point is 01:31:39 In 2003, he's asked by a newspaper to reflect on his career. Oh, boy. In the NFL, he said asked by a newspaper to reflect on his career. Oh, boy. In the NFL, he said, this is funny, it was fantasy land for me during those seven years. I was a celebrity and I enjoyed all the perks that came with the fame of being a Super Bowl champion. Yeah. I bet. Yeah, it must have been great. So, 2006, routine traffic stop in Garden Grove, California.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Oh, no. Oh, yeah. They pull him over. This is Mr. I'll sell you a Camry guy here. He is found with 28 grams, which is an ounce, by the way, if you're not a drug person. Is it good or not? He is found with 28 grams of rock cocaine and 10 grams of meth in his car. Oh good at all um he's facing do that because that's what he's selling fucking drugs yeah because fucking cars ain't enough selling coke yeah his
Starting point is 01:32:35 lifestyle is yeah i like you know back then he probably made himself 70 grand a year and made a comfortable living at least you know he went out had a car and a house and pay his mortgage but that's not living it. I'm L.A. Mike. I'll get you anything from Corollas, Camrys to Coke. I'm L.A. Mike. Anything with C's. Come to the dealership and come see me.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Come and go with me. Camrys, Cocaines or Corollas. I got it all. Jesus Christ. So he's facing 13 years in jail for this. Yeah. Which is for this. Yeah. Which is a lot. Yeah, because that's a...
Starting point is 01:33:07 And, holy shit, well, in 2006, the three strikes is over, right? I believe so, yeah. It's got to be. At this point. You'd be an asshole to enforce that in 2006. Yeah, I think you... But that's... In 1991, this is fucking life for him.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Yeah. This is like fucking White Mike know, White Mike there. You're going for forever or whatever his name was. White Boy Rick. White Boy Rick. White Mike. What did he say? Oh, that's the wire.
Starting point is 01:33:33 The wire's White Mike. Yeah, you're right. It is. The wire's White Mike. He's the other drug dealer on the wire. You're right. I'm thinking White Boy Rick, but I'm seeing White Mike. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Okay, so they, people also, his family comes up and says that his drug dependency is probably fueled or exacerbated at least from head injuries from his playing days. Oh, so CTE causes you to be a drug addict with a fucking ounce of coke? It doesn't cause you to sell drugs, not just to do them. It causes you to set up a business which is interesting because at the same time so he had cte in college then when he was doing coke when did this start exactly because he's been doing coke since 82 here we're talking about coke is the c and cte i think so yeah so his friends and family came to court. Three of his sisters provided letters of support. And another sister who's an attorney with Chicago's international law firm, Meyer Brown LLP at the time, and also was the former Chicago building commissioner and later on became the president of the Chicago Board of Education. Jesus. Yeah, she's fucking serious.
Starting point is 01:34:45 She flew in to speak on his behalf as well. Is she going to say that CTE stands for Coke Trafficking Enterprises, too? She said, listen, guys, you got to know about this stuff. Wow. She told the court of her days as a law student when the judge she was clerking for died and her brother supported her financially and gave her a place to stay as she studied for the bar. She said that had been the role he had taken with other family members, she said.
Starting point is 01:35:11 That has been the approach he has taken with respect to friends. That has been the approach he's taken with respect to teammates when they have fallen on hard times or have found themselves on a path that was contrary to their interest and contrary to their societal interest. Oh. If you're down on your luck, he'll give you a free rust proof on that camera. He's fine with it. He'll help you. Desert protection.
Starting point is 01:35:33 It's all good. She told the court that her brother had simply lost his way. Okay. He's going to wander back on the path. This is his third time being arrested for drugs, though. That's a problem. She's going to say he lost focus? Lost his way?
Starting point is 01:35:49 Yeah, he's lazy. L.A. Mike, what do you want? Said he took his life on a downward turn after both of their parents died, and he had not been there to support them when they were ill. She said society would not be served by his incarceration, and please give him time in a rehab program. But that doesn't say why you're selling crack. I get why you're doing crack.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Right. If we caught him with a crack pipe in his mouth, they'd be going, yeah, this guy needs help. Maybe help him. He's not hurting anybody. He's selling crack. That's not a I'm addicted to crack problem. And meth. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:36:21 He's addicted to both of them. What the fuck? She said there is no question he is an addict but there is a line between those who are addicted and have no promise no hope no direction no opportunity no foundation and those who are not he is the exception to the rule when he is present he is an exemplary person yeah ditka ounce of coke that's a lot crap it was rock it wasn't even rock cocaine right ready for fucking ready for sale yeah uh mike ditka sent a handwritten letter to the judge and offered to
Starting point is 01:36:52 pay for michael's treatment if he would let him have that which is pretty goddamn cool actually as much as a douchebag as mike dick is that's pretty fucking awesome to do. I've never heard of a coach being that rad. That's pretty cool. Dent and former teammate Tyrone Keyes, who was a backup defensive lineman on the Super Bowl team, also wrote letters on his behalf. Mike Dick has said, I will help in any way necessary. Someone spelled necessary for him.
Starting point is 01:37:23 They were like N-E-C. No way Mike Dick has sat down with no spell check with a pen and spelled necessary i defy you any day mike dick could have sit down and spell necessary to me he definitely got help i also want you to spell tomorrow without looking at anything yeah don't look at shit and disappeared two hours exactly i will help in any way necessary to try and find a way to help him through this tough time i believe his life is worth trying to save richard dent said i know that mike is troubled but a good man to his soul i would deeply beg the court to give Mike one last chance. Richardson said he wasn't sure Ditka would. He asked Ditka to send this. He sent letters out to everybody saying, I need
Starting point is 01:38:11 letters of support. And he didn't expect Ditka to respond. But he said he was, you know, he was happy he did. Mike said, quote, that's part of the gamble when you reach out and ask for help. The rejection part. Not everybody's going to help you when you're not doing too well the judge at the time really respected mike so that letter he wrote helped me probably more than anything respected mike did is what he's saying yeah so um a boyhood friend of his the guy who i keep saying his friend says this yeah we grew up with him that's his attorney timothy right he's a chicago attorney attorney and a boyhood friend of his. Yeah, he would, by the way, be the director of domestic policy for Bill Clinton. What?
Starting point is 01:38:54 As well, in the 90s there. So yeah, under that administration. He did very well for himself. Yeah, I would say. Dave Dewarson also has talked to Dave Dewarson, who has had a really hard time with CTE, by the way. Really? I think, did he die finally? I don't know. I think he died recently. He had like his, they were talking about putting brain since like 2007 with him.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Really? Who did he play for, Seattle? The Bears, the Bears. Oh. He's an 85 Bear. Dave Dewarson. D-U-E-R. Dave Dewarson. D-U-E-R. Dewarson. D-U-E-R. Dewarsonwerson d-u-e-r d-u-e-r dewerson oh jesus james he died right it looks
Starting point is 01:39:30 like it says was i don't yeah he died he died he had cte and died yeah his brain he didn't know where he was for years it's a i watched a thing about talking about his family and shit talking about him really it was disturbing that was a disturbing yeah um the dewerson was a former classmate at of the judge at notre dame actually yeah and also was richardson's roommate on the bears oh and he was a lifelong childhood friend of the judges yes that's what happened he shot himself in the chest so they could study his brain like fucking say oh that's fucked up man they knew that for years his brain like fucking say, oh, that's fucked up, man. They knew that for years.
Starting point is 01:40:06 His brain was fucked up, though. He was having a hard time. He yeah, he talked about that. They talked about, you know, all that kind of shit. He said that he talked about Richardson's blown chances in the past. They said he's walked out of rehab on multiple occasions. Wow. He's got a public defender here, by the way. He said he's walked out of rehab on multiple occasions. Wow. He's got a public
Starting point is 01:40:25 defender here, by the way. He's got nothing. Yeah. The public defender argued that none of the programs he was in provided sufficient motivation and control in keeping him there. And that's leaving an open door for the judge to go. I know a place where that has proper control to keep him there. I'll bet they'll keep him there very well. I have a place that I know of that'll keep him. Yeah. He said, the judge said, if I take a chance on you this time, what is to say that I'm not going to end up in the same predicament as the last three judges that have put you in a treatment program?
Starting point is 01:40:57 Great point. Michael said, I just feel like I'm at a fork in the road. I feel like I am, for the first time, 100% committed to the actual process of change. OK, the judge lectured him, saying most people in your position don't have this kind of support. They don't have Mike Ditka writing handwritten letters to me. And they said when you put yourself or why you put yourself in this in this position again is a terrible testament to the power of drugs because it's clear to this
Starting point is 01:41:25 court that you're a good-hearted individual. You've just gone terribly astray in your personal life because of the drugs. He said, you've reached heights in your career, in your life. You've attained goals that few people in the world can ever attain. You're a Super Bowl champion. You tasted greatness. You have it inside of of you you have shown it in the community and your willingness to give back but the drugs are going to crush it all and it has already crushed a substantial portion a portion of your life he gives him you sir may fuck off one year in jail suspending he gave him the 13 years but suspended 12 of them and gave him a year and a year in jail that way if he fucks up again he's going back to jail for 13 years yeah so that is pending his
Starting point is 01:42:13 completion of another rehab program and then he's going to be placed on five years probation as well it's still a very significant chunk of yeah it's for a third light but it's still significant in that it can fuck his life if he makes one mistake 10 years before that though guys were getting life for that yeah their third strike and shit so yeah he's lucky he's fucking very lucky yeah yeah the judge said whether this is infinite wisdom or not i'm going to take a chance on you you have too much to offer in society to let you rot away in prison god those words are going to look so bad pretty soon i'm telling you so bad because in 2008 august 22nd 2008 eight months after being released from jail he is arrested again
Starting point is 01:42:59 for violating probation by failing to register as a drug offender and hanging around and associating with another drug offender. Is he about to go to jail for 12 years? It is not good here. So they're talking about that he got probation, like we said. By the way, he, that, altogether, that conviction was his, and hear me clear, 21st drug conviction that he's had. All the ones we know about the couple of trafficking ones or whatever, but all the ones in between we don't know about. Tiny possession charges?
Starting point is 01:43:36 They weren't possessions. They weren't in the newspaper. They weren't in the media because he was a nobody at the time. Wow. He was selling fucking Toyotas, so nobody cared. But this is his 21st drug arrest that the judge let him out on and said i feel good about this 21st i could have given him 13 years and he stood there mike stood there with a straight face and said i just feel this time
Starting point is 01:43:59 is different this one is the one you know 21 my lucky number. You're rolling. 21 is so lucky. I've always been great at blackjack. I just kept saying hit me until I got right here, and I've nailed it now. 21, bitches. I don't want to go over. This is the free one. Jesus Christ, man.
Starting point is 01:44:20 So, yeah, he's having some problems for this. They're talking about his long uh his long battle with drug addiction in the paper they on august april 9th 2008 there was a headline called the glory is gone and it chronicled how um they tried to write letters of support for him and you know all this type of shit and uh you know now he's he's fucking up again and hopefully this time he can get his life together that's so fucking many it hasn't stopped ever the judge by the way said at the end of the 13-year sentence if you kick sand in my face like you've done to the other judges i will violate your probation and give you every single day of that 13-year sentence oh boy that
Starting point is 01:45:01 is rough so yeah he was arrested as he left the Orange County Probation Office when he got into a car driven by a girlfriend who was a known drug user and also was on informal probation. They weren't supposed to be together. He did it on the fucking grounds of the probation. Ridiculous. He's been told as a condition of his probation he could not associate with anyone on probation or anyone who's a known drug user. And she's on probation for drugs. Both of those things together in one. So then he also failed to register as a drug offender despite numerous admonishments.
Starting point is 01:45:34 The probation officer wrote to the judge, quote, it appears Richardson is making a mockery of the court. Oh, no. Deputy district attorney said that he feels that Richardson's run out of chances and should go to prison for eight years. He said that he's not surprised that Richardson had been accused of violating probation. But he said, quote, I didn't think it would happen so soon. Yeah, that's fast. I know he'd fuck up, but not this bad, this quick. So quick.
Starting point is 01:46:02 He said it appears he has reoffended in an extremely short period of time. This shows he has no regard for either the leniency shown him by the courts or for the law. So he's back in prison. He's in prison for 20 months this time. Oh. And then released from prison on an appeal because a ruling, an appeals ruling says the terms of his probation had been laid out too vaguely by the judge. So he got off on some paperwork shit that he's real lucky about.
Starting point is 01:46:35 That's ridiculous. It is ridiculous because wait till you hear what he keeps doing because it's wild. Oh, my God. At this point, you're like, oh, but he's harmless. You know what I mean? Because he's just selling crack and he is harmless. He's a detriment to himself, but he's also, he's selling and putting meth. Crack.
Starting point is 01:46:50 And meth. Yeah, that's not great. It gets way worse than that, though. You go, wow, we are going to pine for the salad days of meth and crack rocks pretty soon. Oh, Jesus. So August 2nd, 2010, he's released from prison here so there he goes um told him he could be any part of your probation is violated now or your parole you're coming back to fucking prison um you know jesus christ they said so god damn he's got so much problem so many
Starting point is 01:47:21 problems he's been in and out of prison since the end of his career, man. That's the thing. It's been crazy. His friend, Wright, the attorney, he said that he knew he had to get his friend back to Chicago where people cared about him and where his name could do him well. Right. He can get jobs and he can make appearances and he can go to card signings and he can get some money in his pocket instead of selling crack for it. Today, I'd buy a fucking Toyota from Tom Chambers. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:47:48 That's why people go to those places. It's crazy. Fucking Greg Gagne, who's in a rage, sells fucking Toyotas. I shit you not. He sells Toyotas in Minneapolis. And moves a shitload of them, I'm sure. Yes, absolutely. Oh, I remember that match with you and Joe.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Oh, yeah, yeah. Come on. Let me show you this model. Am I in the forerunner or not? Let's go. Yeah. I want to talk about you and uh jump jumping jim brunzel fighting adonis and ventura let's talk about it so um he uh he does
Starting point is 01:48:11 he convinces richardson to relocate so chicago though you know he said that he gets to chicago and now he's a he's not like oh he's some ex-con. Now he's like everybody loves him. He attends the Bears' 25th anniversary reunion in 2010. He shows up at other alumni events, makes promotional appearances, reconnecting with his old football friends. His friend got him involved in the Chicago public schools. So he talked to kids and do all that kind of shit. Doing great. September 17, 2010, he's on ESPN. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:50 He's fucking wearing T-shirt and shorts on there. Yeah. Hanging out, doing his thing. Yeah. This is at the Mike Ditka's Celebrity Golf Classic, which reunited the 85 Super Bowl champs. How many of those guys have major fucking problems that Ditka has to put up with now? Oh, God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Jesus Christ. It's like this shit. Like this. Well, Dennis Gentry, one of the teammates, said, when I came out of the hotel and saw Mike Richardson, there was so much joy. Seeing him again was unbelievable. He hadn't been around forever.
Starting point is 01:49:19 So I was like, holy shit. So everybody said, God damn. Richard Dent said, he still looks like a baby. He still looks young. He does. He looks real young. So they said they used to wonder, you know, Bears fans and the other players that didn't know him well would wonder where the hell was he at previous reunions. He's one of the nine Super Bowl shuffle guys that had solos.
Starting point is 01:49:38 In fucking prison, you guys. Yep. Then also in the newspaper accounts when they account for everybody from the 85 bears they put him as whereabouts unknown so people are like where's michael richardson there was rumors around chicago that he he had died uh rumors that he was homeless in like seattle somewhere just like close enough close enough um uh but so there he is though he's still hanging out doing his thing and um he's you know he's now he's got some gray and some shit like that but at least he's not in prison so that's nice um so he uh i still can't believe 21st drug conviction and fifth felony in
Starting point is 01:50:19 16 years he had by the way holy fuck uh mikeka said, there's not a bad bone in his body. What happens with a kid? You're caught up in all the crap. You almost have to chew gum while you say it. What happens with him is he's caught up in all the crap. And you don't think, and sometimes you get rid of your past and your friends, and all they do is bring you down. Sometimes you don't get rid of your past and your friends,
Starting point is 01:50:41 and all they do is bring you down. So Richardson said that Mike Ditka scared him when he was a player. But now Ditka is very, you know, they're all friends. Mike is frail, too, at this time. Yeah, yeah. Mike Richardson said later on in life when I had my personal problems, he was one of the first people to call and encourage me. He said some issues with his family or he said he had some issues with his family, and I just appreciate him sharing his own experiences and failures because it's not the easiest thing to do.
Starting point is 01:51:12 He also said, it's been a lot of years since I've seen the guys, and anytime you're away from people you really care about and who love you, you have mixed emotions. Part of the time I wanted to cry, part of the time I wanted to laugh, and part I just wanted to hug everybody because you never know when you're going to see them again. He said he hadn't seen most of these people since Walter Payton's funeral in 99. Jesus. This time Mike Ditka paid for his trip to come to Chicago to see the guys. And do the, well, I mean, it was in his golf thing, so it's a write-off.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Mike didn't pay for shit. And it probably came out of his fucking uh restaurant money yeah that's the other thing yeah he's got restaurants so he said that he just had positive feelings after this weekend he said i'm always glad to see people smiling healthy and doing well i embrace the and love the fact that the majority of our guys are doing what you're supposed to do enjoying life owning a nice car and a nice house, being a good father and husband. That's what life is all about, and it's always good to be around quality, good people. I don't have any regrets or anything.
Starting point is 01:52:13 I just love being around them. Yeah, that's right. They all said, yeah, that's Richard Dent said, Mike, he's one of my best buddies. We all came in the league at 20, 21 years old, and it was just a natural bond, a friendship from draft day on. It's generally one or two guys you become really close with. He was one of those guys. It's really nice seeing him come back this way. So at this point, he's got a 12-year-old son and an 11-year-old daughter. He's working with the Salvation Army, conducting football training for kids 12 to 18 years old in
Starting point is 01:52:44 Santa Ana, California. Yep. He said, I think I walked away from football prematurely. You didn't really walk away. Football walked away from you. Yeah. You were thrown into a dumpster by two fat guys with cold cut breath. That's what you are.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Like Chrissy and Pussy throwing that guy in the dumpster. Throwing him right out the back. Yep. Done. I still feel like I'm 20 years old myself, and I think there's something I can give back to sports and football. They said, well, do you consider yourself an addict? He said, I guess I don't take it to that extent. But being a better person, father, neighbor is a day-to-day process.
Starting point is 01:53:19 I can't clap my hands at what I did years ago or yesterday and make it go away, but I can be the best person I can on a daily basis. That was a huge avoidance of that question. Yeah, what did they ask him? He got me. He walked away from it. That is fucking wild. I think that means no, I'm good. That's what he said there.
Starting point is 01:53:43 He said, I decided to change a few years ago i think i was wrongly prosecuted at that time but the accumulation of things prior to that time got me into that position what i developed you got an how many times have you had an ounce of crack on you yeah yeah wow he said i can't dodge the fact that I put myself in the position to go to jail. I'm not trying to blame anyone else for my mistakes. I just thank God I have the mentality I have today and I can move forward. I feel very lucky. He said he's looking for opportunities to speak to addicts and others who have had struggles.
Starting point is 01:54:18 He wants to be an example of someone who transformed his life and offered his cell phone to addicts who might need a friend. His number, not his actual take my phone. Here's a December 23rd, 2011. It's a Christmas story here about a good news he's good now Christmas story.
Starting point is 01:54:38 This is fucking hilarious. Former Bears cornerback Mike Richardson heard the news about Sam Hurd being arrested. It was another defensive back who got arrested for coke. From the Rams? On drug-related charges and bowed his head. He said, I just had to pray for him. It was just a sad moment because I know how devastating it can be.
Starting point is 01:54:56 It takes a lot to come out of a situation like this healthy mentally. He says he's a changed man now. He lives in Chicago. He got out of Southern California. He said, I'm working with youth and coaching. And of course I'm still into helping others who are struggling with their lives,
Starting point is 01:55:10 whether it's addiction or just having issues, living a normal life on a day to day basis. He only wants to help Jimmy. Okay. Everybody getting that. He's just wants to help. He needs to help help society, just mankind and society.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Yeah. Um um he had by the way sam heard had half a kilo yeah sam was trafficking big shit yeah he was doing a lot he said in a situation like sam's i believe most people change not so much for themselves but to help others so if sam or anybody else needs assistance or help people like me are available to talk to. You better be available to fucking pay for legal fees because he's got a lot of problems. So, yeah, he said that I guess Richardson said it's hard to return from a checkered past. He was supposed scheduled to make an appearance for a blood drive.
Starting point is 01:56:04 But when his drug pass came to life, a Bears teammate replaced him. Yeah, because they didn't want. Yeah're we don't know what's in there he said what i know is that they use a lot of the former 85 bears to pretty much promote or participate in the blood drive for signings or just an appearance not necessarily donating blood or anything like that just an appearance but because of the timing of the herd situation because Because Sam was a bear. That's why. Oh, really? I thought he was... Yeah. He was on the bears for years. Huh. He didn't play for the Rams? Did he play for the Rams too? I think he did too.
Starting point is 01:56:31 I think he played for them also. So they decided to postpone or put me on hold or reschedule me for a different event. Some of the negative things I did were almost five years ago. Okay. I'm sure you did some intravenous shit, and hep C is not good for a child that's sick.
Starting point is 01:56:52 I'm a different person today, and I would hope fans or the public would move forward because I'm a good example of transforming one's life. Take a pint. Throw it in the trash. I don't care. Just take a pint. Take it. It just looks good.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Take the pictures of it. He said, yeah. He said he had to acknowledge he had a pint. Throw it in the trash. I don't care. Just take a pint. Just take it. It just looks good. Take the pictures of it. He said, yeah. He said he had to acknowledge he had a problem. He said that's the initial process of healing and change, just admitting a problem, whether it's selling or using. The person needs to change, and that has to come from within. Some mistakes are bigger than others. And, of course, this, meaning the Sam Heard allegation, is a tremendous mistake. If that is what has been taking place, you have to own up to that and make a decision to change. He said that stuff like stuff like that takes place, but it's pretty isolated, meaning NFL players trafficking drugs.
Starting point is 01:57:37 He said there's not too many people to participate in this negative lifestyle, but I don't really know because I don't have contact with the younger guys i just don't see it most of the guys don't have the coke on them right they usually finance someone else's operation they don't say i'm gonna have coke on me you want to buy it because that's crazy they don't tape it under the lid of their fucking trunk they yeah hand it to a pal and he moves it yeah so they said but heard was uh he's considered a good teammate everybody said he was cooperative with the media everybody liked him and he said it. Yeah. So they said, but Hurd was, he's considered a good teammate. Everybody said he was cooperative with the media. Everybody liked him. And he said, well, when you're living a double life, it's hard to keep that secret, Mike said. But that's what we usually commit to in doing whatever it takes to hide most of the negative activity we're participating in.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Usually the person who's involved doesn't see some of the destruction that he's doing at the time. You continue to hide and manipulate and not look at the downside of it. You don't give enough attention to the negative consequences. That's what we do. Guys try to hide as much as they can, whether it is multiple relationships or any other negative behavior. Multiple relationships are the same as trafficking coke. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:43 He said, and my stuff was different than hers. He said, most of mine was after I was done playing. My destruction was not here in Chicago. It was in another state. It was a little bit of how I grew up. It was a little bit of who I hung around with. Some of it was false illusions as far as maybe drugs being a sexual enhancer. Oh, not poppers.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Well, I think in the 80s, when you say who wants to do coke,, back then you could get some woman to come do coke with you and fuck you then. That was like an 80s thing. He said, but the bottom line is how do you get out of it? That's the more important question. It's how you think, feel, and act. The biggest issue is committing to change, and that's a daily process that has to come from the individual. Oh. Wow. to change and that's a daily process that has to come from the individual oh wow he said that in a 2012 speech at the rose kranz griffin williamson adolescent treatment center in rockford
Starting point is 01:59:32 yeah he said it all started to make sense when he was arrested in 2006 he said it's the best thing that's ever happened to me not the day i won the super bowl the day i got sober oh that's right here yeah he said um i guess with richardson i guess he was uh and i guess oh well he's got a sister his old buddy right and then richard dent are involved in his life he seems to be thriving he started a business called 101 speed training to help young athletes and um yeah they're doing all sorts of stuff here. One of his clients here became a first-round draft pick of the Vikings, Laquan Treadwell. And so, yeah, Treadwell said Richardson helped him with life advice
Starting point is 02:00:17 as well as football training, and he made a commitment, recommitted himself, Mike did, to his own children, Broderick and Riley. He brought them to the 25th anniversary reunion for the team, the 85 team, and they walked on the field before a game at Soldier Field. One of the Bears people said they were beaming, beaming. I asked Mike how he stayed sober, and he said, Just ask my daughter. How about we leave her out of it? She's like 13.
Starting point is 02:00:44 I told him if he's going to be a part of my life. Oh, she said, I told him if he's going to be a part of my life. Oh, she said, I told him if he's going to be a part of my life, this is how it has to be. And then she smiled that smile. She was a proud daughter. So Richardson trained Broderick and Riley for speed and strength and even helped them with SAT test prep. Yeah. He sent their highlight tapes every weekend and called and talked about their progress with other people.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Oh yeah. He was he would have a friend I guess a friend set up Richardson so he could FaceTime both kids simultaneously and they said he was always doing that kind of stuff like a coach and a dad. It was like he had another
Starting point is 02:01:24 lease on life. One of his friends said, I thought he finally got the monkey off his back. We'll find out. He did it. Yeah. He's good now. Right, everybody? He's good now.
Starting point is 02:01:35 2012. He's one of 2,000 players and their families who filed a lawsuit against the NFL, accusing them of concealing information about the long-term effects of concussions, which is obvious. He was the only player in the suit who said head injuries led him to be substance dependent. Wow. Wow. That is fucking wild.
Starting point is 02:01:55 Somebody said he never really talked about himself having concussion issues, but he talked about players he played with, and he was kind of worried about what could happen with him. So, yeah. He said he knew he took a lot of hits i could see how mike having head injuries could lead him into doing drugs and some of that other stuff or keep him doing it when you have trauma it makes you do things that aren't normally you yeah i don't know anything about that so that that could be fucking true absolutely so um yeah they said uh i think yeah her his sister said that had been the role he has taken with other family members oh that's she's that's repeating that okay good um so wow he's um he said i feel like i'm at a fork in a road he's ready to go so 2016 um he's still
Starting point is 02:02:42 attending stuff he attended the annual homecoming and golf outing for the Bears alumni. He moved to the Phoenix area in 2016. Is that right? Absolutely. Why not? He went to college there. He thought it was the right place because Riley was attending ASU on a basketball scholarship. Yes.
Starting point is 02:03:01 So he wanted to be near her. He had been inducted into the ASU Ring of Honor in 2013. Really? Yes. So he wanted to be near her. He had been inducted into the ASU Ring of Honor in 2013. Really? Absolutely. Think about what he did. There's no... Yeah. He was a top-tier athlete.
Starting point is 02:03:14 All Pac-10? Yeah. He was the first guy, second guy in school history to be an All-American twice in a row. in school history to be an All-American twice in a row. So he also rekindled his relationship with Arizona State, and he was working with Arizona athletes through 101 speed training. That became Phoenix is like the ground zero for draft readiness and athlete training and all those weird. There's a hundred of those weird places that college athletes go to get ready for the combines.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Speed and agility and stuff? They're all based in Phoenix every single one of them. All of them. I guess because you can do it all year round. Well, yeah, it's just for some reason they've all gathered there because a lot of retired athletes live there. Don't know why, but they do. Harry Carson lives there.
Starting point is 02:04:00 I'm sure he does, yeah. He may be dead, but I don't know for sure now over the next 32 months he's good now he's at his old school his daughter's playing basketball he's helping kids he's doing great shit but over the next 32 months he will be arrested six different times for various offenses this man has been arrested like 30 times fucking up a lot convicted 21 times how many times he was arrested it's got to be 40 right it has to be june 5th 2018 here are all of his fucking offenses from this time this is all from june 5th okay okay narcotic drugs possession for
Starting point is 02:04:41 sale narcotics drugs possession for sale unlawful failure to return rented property. Dangerous drug, possession for sale. Dangerous drug is meth, by the way. Narcotic is usually coke. Drug paraphernalia, possession used. Drug paraphernalia, possession used. Dangerous drug, possession for sale. Narcotic, possession for sale.
Starting point is 02:05:01 Narcotic, possession for sale. Unlawful return rental. So all those again. Narcotic possession for sale, narcotic possession for sale, unlawful return rental. So all those again. He ends up pleading guilty as charged to dangerous drugs possession for sale. So that's part of the deal. He does a plea offer and they dismiss everything else if he pleads to this. So that's February of 2019.
Starting point is 02:05:20 He's going to plead guilty to dangerous drugs with possession or sale here. In Maricopa County? In Maricopa County? In Maricopa County. Oh, boy. It shows, according to the court records, he violated one of his probations and tested positive for cocaine and heroin. And heroin. Yes. His latest, we'll talk about this, he's got another arrest coming up here.
Starting point is 02:05:40 coming up here. Yeah, his friend who's been sober for 20 years and is a personal trainer and coach in San Jose said he started worrying about his friend about three years earlier because Mike stopped returning his calls about 2015. Yeah. He said they had talked about once a week when they lived in Chicago,
Starting point is 02:05:58 or when he lived in Chicago, but he said they haven't spoken in about two and a half years at this point. And also, Wright, his friend from childhood, and Richard Dent tried to keep tabs on him, but they couldn't either. Can't get a hold of him, yeah. His friend Wright said, I hated like hell when he went back to Arizona because I couldn't touch base with him like we did when we were in Chicago.
Starting point is 02:06:18 We would talk from time to time, but not with any kind of intensity and regularity that we had when he was here. I always felt without Richard and me checking on him and being with him, he was susceptible to that which tended to dominate his life. We never wanted to let him go because we love that kid. He's in his fucking late 50s. He's not a kid. He's a fuck-up.
Starting point is 02:06:39 That's the thing. So, yeah, that's wild. Now, here's another guy here, Tyrone Keys, who mentors young people through all sports community services. And one of the guys, he's on the 85 Bears as well. He said he attempted to keep up with Richardson as well. He said he found that Richardson wasn't as enthusiastic about his children's sports endeavors as he had been when he was in Chicago. Oh, boy. Richardson came to Chicago for an autograph show last fall, and he said it was all about, you know, the kids and all that.
Starting point is 02:07:13 And he said, never saw him again. And then I saw his mugshot. Oh. Oh, my God. Speaking of that, so, I mean, he's having a bad time. I feel bad for his kids. They moved out there. Oh, my dad's doing better.
Starting point is 02:07:24 Oh, it's got gotta be so hard and now she's got to play basketball and have her dad get arrested at the same time which is embarrassing for you in town and everyone's going to ask you about it i mean you feel bad for the guy honestly but not nearly as bad as you may feel for michael richardson who was arrested here in uh, Connecticut on March 4th, 2018, who had 250 THC vaporizer cartridges and 44 pounds of marijuana on him. Wow. That's above what you're supposed to have. A little bit high, yeah. A little bit high, exactly.
Starting point is 02:08:00 They conducted a traffic stop of a Jeep Cherokee, and that's what they found. And it smelled to high heaven. These are like, holy shit, Jesus Christ. So, yeah, there's that guy. Let's see, who's another guy? More guy arrested for a drug ring. Again, another drug ring guy. And then we have a guy fromland arrested for a three million pound drug importation ring named michael richardson from south norwood so he gets found is it just the
Starting point is 02:08:32 name it's the name and then man indicted in 2021 for murder following a 2017 shooting in north toledo michael richardson shooting occurred at 3 a.m. in fucking Toledo. Holy shit. There was a crowd at the time of the shooting, but witnesses fled. And yeah. Anyway, December 31st, 2020, he is arrested in Phoenix again. I'll give you a guess. What do you think he's arrested for?
Starting point is 02:09:04 Possession of heroin for sale. Nope. It's way worse than that. Murder. He's arrested for? Possession of heroin for sale. Nope. It's way worse than that. Murder. He's arrested for murder in Phoenix. Fucking murder. Yes. What?
Starting point is 02:09:16 December 31st, 2020. Michael Calvin Richardson arrested on one count of murder in the second degree and one count of possession of a dangerous drug for sale. So you half right yeah and one count of possession of a weapon by a prohibited person oh my god yep they said they first reported that um it was i guess in the death of ronald like who's 47 years old police launched a homicide investigation into like's death and appreh and apprehended Richardson on suspicion of second-degree murder. What the fuck? Court documents indicate that investigators learned that the motive in this crime, Richardson
Starting point is 02:09:54 was motivated by $200 worth of cocaine and was later identified as a drug dealer by numerous witnesses. The guy owed him $200. $200 fucking dollars wow he was ordered held without bail on the drug charge and given one million dollars bail on the second degree murder charge so no bail on the drug charge but you kill people you get a
Starting point is 02:10:17 million dollar bail okay no bail on the on the drugs and here's some bail good luck getting out good luck yeah but you never know mike ditka might feel like putting it digging in his pocket we No bail on the drugs, and here's some bail. Good luck getting out. Good luck getting out. But you never know. Mike Ditka might feel like digging in his pocket. We don't know. So, yeah, he's been arrested, I guess. In 2020, he'd been arrested twice more for drug possession. Twice more.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Maricopa County Record Show. Oh, my God. In 2018, he was accused of theft and possessing meth crack and heroin what the fuck happened man this is a fucking mess man um here is the phoenix police department probable cause statement for the murder investigation here december 29th 2020 at approximately 9 18 hours oh 9 18 so morning time In the area of 4120 East Van Buren. Ew. 40th Street in Van Buren.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Dude. That is. Gross. If you're not familiar with Phoenix, that's the joke where you, if you were telling somebody to like making a joke about going to a prostitute, that's where you'd say, we're going to pick a girl up on Van Buren. That's the street. But 40th Street in Van Buren is like,
Starting point is 02:11:26 it's just north of the airport, man. Yes, it is horrible. I know a kid who lived there and I used to drop him off for work and it was like, I mean, get the fuck out of this neighborhood quick. It is gross. At the Howard Johnson Hotel there,
Starting point is 02:11:41 at 40 fucking, dude, I was going to say, you know exactly where that is and so do i it's right by all the parking rides for the fucking airport that's so bad and all the hooker motels yeah all the shitty hooker motels that were obviously built in the 50s when people would want to stay by the airport with those pools in front of those motels and those are those are all dry and it's the the wr iron's still around the pool. It's so weird.
Starting point is 02:12:06 It's so gross. It's so strange. Yeah. An altercation occurred 9 o'clock in the morning at the 40th Street in Van Buren Howard Johnson Hotel. Oh, my God. You're getting in an argument, okay? Between the victim Ronald Lyke and an unidentified, this was at the time, unidentified black male with the nickname Big Mike. Now he's Big Mike. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Over money drugs owed to Ronald. So I guess Mike owed him money. Mike owed him money. A witness who knows both of them observed Ronald and Mike arguing. About one minute later, the witness heard three or four gunshots and observed Mike's's red chrysler 200 flee the parking lot he drives a 200 not even the 300 i was gonna say 200 200 oh god that the embarrassment and he that's your you're a you did the super bowl shuffle sir it's 2020 and you're still driving a 200. Rocking the 200, a red one. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:13:06 So Ronald suffered approximately two gunshot wounds to his neck and or head. The Phoenix Fire Department arrived on the scene and transported Ronald to a local area hospital where he was pronounced deceased at 1010. Oh, my God. So it didn't even make it an hour. The witness identified Michael Richardson as Big Mike, known from a photograph. The witness identified Crystal Ward as the passenger of the Chrysler during the shooting. There was a passenger? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:36 There's girls there. Surveillance captured the suspect's red passenger car arriving at the hotel. Everything has cameras in fucking New Year's Eve 2020. Especially, especially the Howard Johnson at 40th Street and fucking Van Buren. Do you know how many times the cops go to that front desk and go, yeah, we need to pull more footage from. Yeah, there was a stabbing in the parking lot. Yeah, there was this in the parking lot. How many times a fucking day?
Starting point is 02:14:00 Right behind here in the canal. Let's have a look-see. Oh, my God. This gets grosser okay so they arrived captured the car arriving at the hotel and the suspect exits the vehicle the suspect entered room number 111 what he's a super bowl champion he went in a hotel in a room in that hotel oh god on the entry level, on room 111. Yeah, right street level. Ew, gross. A short time later, Ronald arrived in a gray Chrysler 300. Maybe it was just jealousy over the-
Starting point is 02:14:31 Ronald's ballin'. Yeah. Motherfuckers got the three? And knocked on the door to room 111. The door opened, and both Mike and Ronald appeared to have a verbal altercation which then leaked into the parking lot. They walked out into the parking lot. Mike was standing near the driver door
Starting point is 02:14:51 of the Chrysler and Ronald walked toward him. The suspect raised his arm as if raising a handgun and Ronald fell to the ground. The suspect got in the red car, passenger car, and left the parking lot. The witness stated Michael's girlfriend, Crystal, was seated in the front passenger seat of the red sedan, passenger car, and left the parking lot. The witness stated Michael's girlfriend, Crystal, was seated in the front passenger seat of the red sedan when he fled the scene.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Three casings and a plastic rod were located in the parking lot. Okay. On December 30, 2020, the 2016 Chrysler 200 was located at 8000 South Arizona Grand Parkway. Where the fuck is that? Is it like Ahwatukee or something? Yeah, that's over there in like... Down by South Mountain.
Starting point is 02:15:29 I'll bet it's near in fucking South Tempe. Something like that. Arizona Grand? That's got to be over there. Sounds like that, right? Yeah, yeah. If Jimmy drove around as an electric guy reading, you know, doing the...
Starting point is 02:15:43 That's a different company's area, but I know where that is. That's why you don't know what I was going to say. So anywhere normally you ask Jimmy, he's like, I know exactly where that is. Exactly where it is. He's driven by it a million times. He's done the little metal detector thing to find their lines. So I was waiting. Arizona Grand is, there's a resort right there, though.
Starting point is 02:16:02 I just don't know where exactly it's at. South, it's got to be down by the mountain down there. just don't know where exactly it's at. South. It's got to be down by the mountain down there. It is. It's down where those resorts are. South Tempe. Yeah. Over there by like Elliott or Ray or some shit over there.
Starting point is 02:16:14 Where those resorts are. Up against that mountain. Got to be down there. Okay. We hope we figured it out. I think so. I think so. So they were located in the area michael calvin richardson
Starting point is 02:16:26 and uh crystal marie ward were located in the area taken into custody crystal told investigators michael and ronald did not like one another well no shit yeah well one owes the other money we figured that out one's dead so several months ago michael had stolen approximately 200 worth of drugs from ronald wow oh my god ronald was holding crystal responsible to pay back the 200 he's holding his girl responsible that's why yes so michael came to say oh you know fuck you blah blah blah and now they're fighting so um the surveillance video of the incident did not show Ronald raise anything in his hands or make any overtly aggressive movements before he was shot by Michael. They were just standing a distance apart. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:13 And Michael shot him. I'll bet he said something along the lines of, I'm going to take it out of your girl's ass then. Whatever the fuck it is. You know what I mean? We're at the Howard Johnsons. We'll just turn around. All bets are on the table. All bets are on and off.
Starting point is 02:17:26 It's already. Yeah. So I guess they said that for a while, Tyrone Keys, his friend, was distraught to the point of not being able to speak about it. Said, quote, I know what it does to his children, and I'm not forgetting the other person who lost his life. It's tragic. I hurt for his kids. and who lost his life. It's tragic.
Starting point is 02:17:43 I hurt for his kids. Riley, by the way, had more assists than any other basketball player in Arizona State history. Unbelievable. She's a phenom like her dad was. She was playing professionally in Luxembourg at the time. Okay, yeah. Her half-brother Taylor was a running back at Columbia University. Really?
Starting point is 02:18:05 He's smart as shit. Yeah, that's what I mean. Well, think about his. Really? He's smart as shit. Yeah, that's what I mean. Well, think about his sister. And dad was smart as shit, too. Yeah. Everybody's smart. He's just lazy. He's just throwing it away. He's L.A. Mike.
Starting point is 02:18:14 L.A. Mike. You know? So that's not bad. Now, Richardson, after he was arrested, I guess they left a message saying, I just wanted to let him know that the team was here for him oh my god since his arrest though he's been detained in the fourth avenue jail cell number 27 on the third of the five-story building there right in the middle here he's secured uh appearance bond was set at one million dollars the initial trial date was vacated
Starting point is 02:18:43 and a new date hadn't been set because it was during COVID still. Crystal Ward not charged in the indictment, which means she said everything she knows. Yep. Otherwise she would be. Yep. She's going to testify against him,
Starting point is 02:18:56 I would think. His defense team recently filed a motion for new determination of probable cause, claiming he was denied the right to a fair and impartial grand jury proceeding because the state of Arizona presented false and misleading testimony. Really? Here's what I would do if I was a prosecutor in an indictment of this.
Starting point is 02:19:14 I'd go, hello, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen of the grand jury. I'd like to play something for you. I'd like you to watch a video. That's that guy. Okay, done, indicted. What the fuck are we talking? He's on video shooting a man. What are you...
Starting point is 02:19:27 So what the fuck are they going to do? He was just talking about taking responsibility for your actions. He's on camera doing it. So court documents show Adriana Minor, the Phoenix police detective in charge of the investigation, and the only witness during the grand jury presentation testified that ward quote did not see an item in the victim's hand right before richardson allegedly shot him but according to a transcript in a december 29th interview of ward that's his girlfriend yeah she told the cop that um quote anyway then ron all of a sudden walked and started walking really fast toward me he whipped out this big old wrought iron stick.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Remember a plastic rod was found. Yeah. But that's what we had. It was plastic though. Yeah. A plastic rod against gun doesn't make sense. I mean, it could have been like a hard plastic rod. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:20:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. A curtain rod. It could break a bone, but I don't know that's gonna fucking kill some you gotta really pound on somebody it's that old saying you don't bring a rod to a gunfight you know what i mean yeah you don't bring a curtain rod to a gunfight you've heard that yeah um he said uh and he whipped out this big old wrought iron stick and it was like this long and it looked like iron you know um she said that they were in his car she said i thought we were i thought we thought I thought then she stops. We thought he was going to break the windows with that pole. Ward said in the interview that Richardson's actions were in self-defense.
Starting point is 02:21:09 People who care, they said all these people feel helpless now. Dan Hampton said, he was our brother, and until I know different, I will hold out hope it's not what we've been told. He was a free spirit, but never a mean-spirited guy. We're all hoping and praying this isn't something that leaves him in a terrible light. A terrible light? He shot him in the fucking face. Holy holy shit howard johnson parking lot i was just gonna say that's the second most embarrassing thing about this scenario the first is that he was at the howard johnson's of 40 fucking first street and van buren that's that's what we need to concentrate that's where it's at yeah that's
Starting point is 02:21:40 embarrassing um mike richardson he's his friend said you know, it's not the same guy they see in the mugshot. Richard Dent said he's a sweet guy. I don't understand it. His friend right there, the childhood friend said, I cannot believe for one second that Michael was capable of taking a life unless it was in defense of his own or someone else's. That's not who Michael was. It's not who he is. Not on his worst day did he have that capability. who Michael was. It's not who he is.
Starting point is 02:22:04 Not on his worst day did he have that capability. Dude, when you're stealing $200 worth of coke and meeting people at the Hojo at 40th Street in Van Buren, your life is not what you think this person's life is. And he was meeting him there at 9 a.m. You think he was meeting him there to pay him? He was trying to get
Starting point is 02:22:20 more drugs from him. Or they were going to argue, whatever the fuck it was. So he's still awaiting trial really he's still the the charges haven't been dropped he hasn't been hasn't gone forward i assume there's a lot of wrangling and legal shit going on but it's been this is almost three years now oh my god oh i know there was a lot backed up from covet and shit like that too if they're getting to but um this is a murder disaster they don't want to let this one go it's a murder charge so yeah we'll see what's going on and i don't know i mean this this type of thing the guy he shot was a coke dealer he stole fucking money from yeah
Starting point is 02:22:55 he there was a plastic rod it's in the parking lot of the fucking hojo this is one of those everybody involved knew there was danger involved and this this this to me, obviously, I'm not this guy's like mother or child, the one who got shot. But if I'm looking over this as a D.A., I'm going, this is a this is a fucking second degree or a manslaughter. I'm pleading this. Let's do that. Let's do manslaughter. Here's 15 years or something, because everybody involved in this is a mess. It's a nobody should have been here at 9 a. situation. Nobody should have been here at 9 a.m.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Nobody should have been here at 9 a.m. Nobody. Even if you stay at the Howard Johnson, by 7 a.m. you should be back on the road to wherever the fuck you live. That's when the ladies are sleeping. Yeah. They go in at daybreak and then sometimes they'll get the morning trade and then go in and wait for lunch, but they're going to sleep a few hours there.
Starting point is 02:23:46 But if you stayed the night there, you are out by 7 a.m. You're either on your way to Disneyland with your fucking seven kids and you had to stay there because we don't have enough money for four rooms and a nice place. Or you are a fucking disaster. Yeah. Or you are a fucking disaster. The bugs woke you up. The bugs woke you up. Screaming from other rooms woke you up.
Starting point is 02:24:13 The itching woke you up. Yeah, the itching. Some of the rash. Bitch, where's my fucking money? I ain't telling you again to have my motherfucking money, bitch. Kids, wake up. We got to go. The sound of backs of hands hitting cheeks. Nobody wants to be there. No. Kids, let's go. Kids, wake up. We got to go. The sound of backs of hands hitting cheeks. Nobody wants to be there.
Starting point is 02:24:26 No. Kids, let's go. Kids, wake up. It's time. So this is how terrible the net worth sites are. I love doing these. How much do they think he's worth? They say that we have $20 million.
Starting point is 02:24:40 So much money. I'm like, wow, what the fuck do you think we're doing? This says, this will show you how out of whack it is. They said that, I'll just read the whole thing to you. Michael Richardson Net Worth. NFL salaries range significantly. We know that.
Starting point is 02:24:56 At the low end, NFL rookies make $400,000 to $600,000 per year. At the top level, players can earn $50 million plus. Not per year. $35,000, yeah. thousand per year at the top level players can earn 50 million dollars plus not per year 35 yeah national football league salary cap is around 170 million dollars over the years the player has amassed considerable chunk of money for himself he has become millionaire over the years not a millionaire he has become millionaire over the years by playing for NFL.
Starting point is 02:25:35 They said that his net worth in 2018 was approximately $3 million from training kids and paying lawyers. He's got a public defender on his crack bust. What are you talking about? Yo, I don't know if you've heard this, James, but the Salvation Army is paying heavy today. Heavy, heavy duty. You could buy all of Van Buren Street for that money. You could own several Salvation Armies for that kind of money. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:26:03 As of now, Mike Richardson's net worth in 2021 is estimated to be around $4 to $5 million. He's made money. Somehow, while he's been in prison for fucking jail on a murder charge, he's stacking more millions of dollars. This guy is wow, good for him. It's like Halo. When you shoot somebody, you get to rack up all their stuff.
Starting point is 02:26:19 You pick up all their shit and run. You just take it like the Highlander. He got 1.5 from the guy he shot. His whole family's net worth. So can't get enough of Mike Richardson? Well, keep out for see what happens with his murder charge. And also you can get a Mike Richardson signed Bears Riddell mini helmet. The ones that are cool little mini helmets.
Starting point is 02:26:42 Signed by Mike with his number on everything 64 35 that's not bad it's not terrible then a mike richardson autographed chicago bears jersey there you go autographed on the seven on the back of the jersey that is 99 which is not bad because that jersey is 99 bucks anyway do we buy that i think we buy that we might have a murderers we might have a murderers fucking jersey we have several murderers jerseys first of all people send us things we have every piece of memorabilia from every dirt bag ever made so it's amazing so we definitely this fits in our office yeah we need to frame it it's going on the wall perfect so that everybody is michael richardson i've been waiting for this murder thing to happen for a couple years now kind of had him
Starting point is 02:27:30 on the list and i'm like you know what he's right but i'm plucking it fucking this is i can't wait any longer we'll update it yeah suppose i wait another two years and then they're like oh it got dismissed or he just pled to i waited all the fucking years for that. So, you know, we did it. It's on video. It's whether it's self-defense or not. Who knows? So what do you think? It's I think I mean, it depends on what that thing is. Show me what that thing is.
Starting point is 02:27:54 I need to know what that is. Is it a how what kind of plastic? What kind of plastic is that? And then we'll go from there. How threatening is it? Was he? And if he was just holding it and he was a distance away, you don't need to shoot the guy. Also, the guy's got to be like attack.
Starting point is 02:28:09 You have to be in fear of your life, right? You're an NFL player who sells crack. Are you in fear of your life? Really? And you've got a weapon like that. He's got that as a weapon. I don't know, man. That seems like a manslaughter plea waiting to happen to me that
Starting point is 02:28:26 seems like a 10-year manslaughter deal just waiting to happen just based on the muddiness of the whole thing just being and the facts that you do know yeah exactly the facts you do know even so there you go that's michael uh michael richardson by the way there is another michael richardson that we've done in the past. Michael Ray Richardson, the basketball player. So some people are going to see this and go, they already did that fucking guy. No, we didn't. This is a different guy. Can't help it that it's a common fucking name.
Starting point is 02:28:54 I'm sorry. Not my fault. So there you go. What was Billy Ray? Oh, Bates. God damn it. That was Billy Ray Bates. Yeah.
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Starting point is 02:33:49 Or she chose not to because she thought it would be inappropriate. I don't know. She sounded fucking amazing. I wish we would have been able to meet her. Fucking awesome. I hope you guys are hanging in there, Michelle and Mike. Keep going. Rue.
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