Crime in Sports - #388 - The Innovator Of Crime - Lewis Billups

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

This week, we find out about a man, who always looked for the spotlight, and found it, in the NFL. He never liked to do what everyone else was doing, and that showed, when he was arrested for everything from pulling a gun on 2 cops, to beating a woman into a puddle, threatening Rex Chapman, participating in a team gang rape, and videotaping a horrible crime, that he committed, then trying to extort the victim, with the footage. A truly disturbing man!Drop a big interception in the Super Bowl, deny everything, until you end up pleading guilty, and leave behind a legacy of disgrace, and fear with Lewis Billups!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So that said, let's do this. Let's get on with our merry, merry crime and sports episode here. Let's talk about our he's just back when he was a little elf here uh we'll talk about lewis kenneth billups jr of course what is the fucking juniors it's every week now with the juniors it's kenny billups uh yeah no lewis billups not kenny yeah lewis billups yeah kenneth yeah lewis billups the... He was in the Bengals in the early 90s. Oh. Defensive player.

He was good, actually, too. Is he Chauncey's cousin or some shit? No, he is not. He has a brother. He's Terry's brother. Okay. Terry is another NFL player who's his brother. So let's talk about Lewis Billups here, Jr.

He was born October 10th, 1963, ina and um not a huge guy 511 190 when he's full grown and everything he's a you know a defensive back so safety doesn't need to be the biggest guy in the world but uh cornerback or safety i believe he's a quad he went both ways i think here corner when he's doing well but then he got burned a lot and sometimes they put him at safety this guy yeah we'll talk about one of his nicknames is based on that. Oh. His mother's name is Wadey. W-A-D-I-E.

Wadey. Really? I don't know what that's short for. Father, of course, Louis Phillips Sr. He's got three sisters and a brother named Terry. And Terry, like we'll talk about here, Terry's a defensive back also. Here, he was born in 1975, so he's a lot younger than Lewis here. He played for the Patriots, Cowboys, and then he played in the World Football League and played for all that kind of shit.

Oh, I think he was in the XFL too, Los Angeles Extreme. He was on the Extreme, guys, tommy maddox there so uh yeah terry here um didn't he didn't do too much of the nfl but later on terry will be the complete opposite of lewis because when he's all done with football he ends up opening his own law firm in 2019 what so this is absolutely not you couldn't get more opposite brothers than lewis and terry billups put it that way in every aspect what kind of law firm is he defending or is he suing it doesn't matter he's he's got a law degree yeah he knows the law yeah he's got a he's got a job is what he's got which is more than we can say for a lot of our guys who retire and then float around and

i mean luther wright last week that poor guy poor guy limping around on five toes, for Christ's sake, being seven foot two. This guy's starting law firms. So on to Lewis. His father says of Lewis, this is Lewis Sr., says, quote, he was born at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa. His brother was born in germany so that's that's interesting yeah because i guess his dad's in the air force here i don't know what it's called i think he was born in where the hell was terry born terry was born in weissbaden why what is that no fucking idea but that's that's where he's born weissbar

baden whatever the hell it is. I don't speak German. Anyway, yeah, his dad said he went to several elementary schools in Orlando, including Callahan, Durrance, and Richmond Heights, was a Florida judo champion at age nine in Jacksonville. Really? At nine. He's the best judo. He's the biggest ass-kicking fourth grader going.

No tougher fourth grader in the greater Jacksonville area. Yeah, he won the bully award. Wow, imagine that. Yeah, that's a badass little nine-year-old. He's tiny, too. That's a frightening kid. Yeah, it's not like he's a giant kid. He's just this tiny little kid who can whoop your ass.

And he went to high school in niceville his dad said so his dad said he retired from the air force after serving two tours of duty and um then he ended up coming to central florida to raise terry he wanted terry to have a stable non-moving around environment basically good point yeah which is that's nice here um now lewis here went to um like i said a couple different schools and um he apparently was went both ways as well and went right out too no no he liked guys and women oh no no okay yeah he played yeah he played offense and defense no he was just super just a very uh very fluid sexually that's all it was and it was fine it was fine as a judo champ no one care yeah any shit you want to talk he was just super, just very fluid sexually. That's all it was. And it was fine.

It was fine. Because he was a judo champ. No one cared. Any shit you want to talk, he was like, let's go, motherfucker. He'd choke you out. And so that worked. Or not choke you out, but kick you and I don't know what the fuck he was doing. Break some bones.

Yeah. Push you in a certain way. Judo, I guess. Use your weight against you in some fashion. I will shove you in a way that gains points. I will use your own force against you in some fashion i will shove you in a way that gains points i will use my your own force against you oh man um so yeah does well though all together basically he's a he's a damn fine uh player here um october 7 1981, when he's playing for Niceville, they're talking about how he was a defensive halfback the year before.

He's 165 pounds at this point. He was converted to wide receiver to replace an injured guy. The coach said, we went to Louis Billups this spring and told him we wanted to make him a wide receiver this year. Rodgers was a very good receiver, but Louis gives us a dimension Leonard didn't. Speed. He's fast. He's got NFL fucking speed.

I mean, you know, Louis has much more speed than Rodgers, and he's a game breaker. They said Billups made an off-balance catch in a game against some other high school. I don't know. And regained his balance and then sprinted for a 34-yard touchdown. Awesome. In the same game, he had a 62-yard interception return for a touchdown. Oh, we'll pick six. Yeah, he's just dangerous as fuck.

He's dangerous as fuck. And in this article, because this is from the Pensacola News from October 7th, 1981. So you know that's real. You know it's real and you know it's also real because right below it there's an ad with Burt Reynolds pointing right at you. Oh yeah. Picture of him and it says he wants you all caps to have his baby. What?

Burt Reynolds wants to impregnate you everybody. He's coming for you. What is this? He's got a handful of sperm and he's ready to give it to you. Well I'm interested. let's hear it it says paternity is the movie a paramount motion picture and this is the showing times it's an ad for his movie which i've never heard of that movie from what is it called paternity never heard of never heard of it i didn't know that one that's are you sure it's not tom selleck i'm positive it's giant letters burt reynolds you can't miss this smirk hey i'm gonna put a baby in you there how's that good

what do you say there what do you say about a baby in you tom selleck is is just a little more dad guy than burt reynolds yeah he was just like next generation burt reynolds yeah he was the dad burt reynolds where burt reynolds was was uncle tom sellick yeah but like in the 80s though tom sellick wasn't dad and then no tom sellick was every woman wanted to fuck him tom now he's 40 years later he's some old fart yeah whatever but back then he was hot shit a sweater yeah and in the 80s uh uh what's his name here fucking uh burt reynolds was in the he was kind, he was hot shit. He was a sweater. Yeah. And in the 80s, what's his name here? Fucking- Burt Reynolds was in the-

He was kind of in the- Oh, he was sex. Uncle Burt kind of thing. He was all sex, yeah. But in the 60s and 70s, he was hot shit. Yeah. He was a college football star and an actor. He was all handsome and shit.

His chest out. Fuck. Yeah. And he wanted you to have his baby. I wanted you to. He's doing great. He wanted you to. You have his baby.

I wanted you to. He's doing great. So November 11th, 1981, Pensacola News loves Billups here. They said, then comes Louis Billups of Niceville, which was idle this past weekend with 22 receptions for 406 yards and four touchdowns. So he's doing well, they're saying. 1982 to 85 here, he plays in a small school, so it's hard to get defensive stats for these small schools. So instead, he went to Northern Alabama University.

They won the Gulf Coast Conference Championship in 83 and 85 and competed for the Division II Championship at the Palm Bowl in McAllen, Texas in 1985. The trophy is just a big fat cat. Yeah. It's dead. You better cook it fast. It's not on ice or anything.

It's not dead yet. It's just wiggling got to cook it. You better cook it fast. It's still wriggling. Yeah. It's not on ice or anything. It's not dead yet. It's just wiggling in an igloo. Somebody better gut this thing now is what I'm saying. It's in an igloo cooler without ice. You just hear pump, pump, pump. What's going on in there? We just pulled it out. We just pulled out the trophy.

Just done got it. We just noodle you a winner. We just pulled out the trophy. Just done got it. We just noodled you a winner. Oh, noodled you up good. So 1986 NFL draft comes around here. Oh. Number one pick of the 1986 NFL draft, Jimmy Westman. Yeah, that is Eric Dickerson. No, it's not.

No, it's not. Eric Dickerson's 83. I was close. Yeah. Rocky Fishman. That is like 92. No, it's not. Eric Dickerson's 83. I was close. Rogavish, man. That is like 92. Boomer and Sly. In the middle.

That's 85 or 84. I'm getting close. 84. He was a second rounder, though, in 84. Bo Jackson, number one. Wow, what a deal. That sounds weird because he didn't play from this draft. Tampa drafted him number one.

Oh, and he didn't want anything to do with it. Well, they were the ones. They told him it was okay to take a visit. It wasn't against the NCAA rules to take a visit down there. And then he got back, and he wasn't allowed to play baseball anymore because of it. Motherfuckers! He hated Tampa after that and said, You could offer me all the money in the world.

I'm not playing for you. Go fuck yourself. And they still drafted him number one. He just didn't play. He just, fuck you. And then Al Davis picked him in the late rounds the next year, just taking a chance. And he played. And he said, sure, I'll do it.

Why not? Number two overall, Tony Casillas, the defensive tackle for a long time for Atlanta. Number three overall, Jim Everett. Jim Chris everett here yes to uh to houston which i don't ever remember him playing for houston they must have got rid of him pretty quick because he was on la i always went to the rams right out of the gate i thought so too and then jesus the rest of the draft here 86 doesn't look like the best year i'm looking around i'm like this first round is pretty and neil anderson decent running back

but since you mentioned it uh the titans wore the oilers jersey this past weekend dude that is the great it's the best coolest god damn it helmet jersey pant combo is fucking beautiful it's the and what they did jerseys ever they accented it with like red socks or red gloves or something dude it fucking bangs it It popped like a motherfucker. It slaps so hard. It's so good. That's the coolest fucking jersey. And I was like, oh, so many people have no fucking idea what this is right now.

This is badass. Oh, my God. I have a Narl Campbell like that. Yeah? Beautiful. So bitchin'. Yeah. God damn it.

I love those old Oilers uniforms in general. They're so good. So, yeah, I'm looking at this Keith Byers. That's a real great draft here second round uh though uh here we go pick number 38 cincinnati picks lewis billups from north alabama not bad at all honestly yeah not too shabby um later there is a benefit sometimes these these guys get that the draft is just void of anything really fucking great. And you can get a guy that's decent into the end, and then you've got a chance to shine.

That's so great. Yeah, this is kind of a bottom. I'm like looking at the top, and outside of Bo Jackson, who didn't play, Tony Casillas, great player. I think he's a fucking Hall of Famer, possibly. I think so, too. Jim Everett, he was okay. But, I mean, otherwise, there aren't a lot of big, giant stars

until later on in the draft. Like, second round, you get some decent guys here. Even, like, Dalton Hilliard's a decent running back and Webster Slaughter, guys like that. And then you get Tom Rathman, the San Francisco fullback, in the third round. Ooh, Bubby Brister in the third round that year. Yikes.

Barry Word was a good run pat swilling great uh linebacker for new orleans in the third round not bad at all um tim harris you got in the fourth round the green bay he was fucking nasty charles haley fourth round what year hall of famer yeah pulling hall of famers out of the fourth round so if you took all the good players and you put them all in the first round, you'd go, wow, what a great draft. But at the time, it looked like a terrible draft. It just didn't look good at all here.

Was he drafted by Cleveland? Bubby? I think Bubby was. Yeah, Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh drafted him first. Yeah, they had him the first few years. Remember that? Remember him on Pittsburgh?

Did he back up O'Donnell? Yes, it was him and O'Donnell. And then O'Donnell went to the Jets to look goofy in that stupid helmet. And Brister went to back up Elway and get himself a ring. The cocksucker. Oh, God. Man. And then we had to put up with him for two years.

They were like, this guy is terrible. This guy's a mess. Speaking of the old Oilers, too, we've going to do a bonus episode one of these days on, I believe it's the 93 Oilers. Oh, the whole team? They had a lot of crazy stuff going on, and one of the guys ended up dying that year and having a bit of a problem and a mess on it. So there's some crime involved in it. And then also, that was the year the owner said, if you guys don't win the Super Bowl this year, I'm breaking the team up. And they were like 12 and 4, 11 and 5 every year, those early 90s.

Remember, they were nasty. And they didn't win the Super Bowl, so Warren Moon went to fucking Minnesota, got rid of this one, that one, and then they were so shitty, they ended up moving to Tennessee. Wow. Yeah, it's wild. He just fucking he he major leagued them yeah major league major league the fucking thing which is crazy because either

way it was a really entertaining team too with the run and shoot and war and moon throwing it all over they were fun man so um here we go 1986 the birmingham post herald newspaper we've all we all get a subscription to that right right? Big fan, yeah. Yeah, I think that's... I like the editorials. Oh, they're the best, man. Some of the best in the country. Skeeter Peter's my favorite.

He's my favorite. His editorials are amazing down there. I like him best because I don't know which is his first name. That's what's great, Skeeter Peter. Which one's a nickname? You don't know which is his first name that's what it's great skater peter what's a nickname which one's a nickname you don't know so um they said that this is a basically an article about guys who weren't drafted in the first round and how they had to wait in agony about you know because this is like goes into the next day and all that kind of shit so lewis himself le Lewis Billups, said,

I just thank God I went early, and thank God it's over with. Just didn't want to do it. So, yeah, because this is the second round, guys. He had to sit through the whole first round. And, yeah, they talk about how Billups had actually a teammate from North Alabama also chosen in the seventh round, and they were all very excited about that. So they said that Billups is the highest selection to be drafted by a player from North Alabama and the Gulf South Conference.

I've never even heard of either. I don't know. Yeah. Gulf South Conference. North Alabama seems like a school that was made up for a movie, doesn't it? Like Necessary Roughness made up school. You know what I mean? Like it's just a –

MAU? What? What is that? North Alabama? That's not a real school, is it? He said that he was waiting, I guess, in the office of his agent, who he calls an associate, which I think is funny. That's why I said that in Bloomington, Indiana. Billups said, I talked to guys around the league,

and they told me the hardest part is the waiting. But I never dreamed it would be this hard. It was really scary, to tell you the truth. Last night, I couldn't sleep. I was up by 6.45 this morning and in front of the TV by 7. I only missed the announcement of drafting Bowe. I saw every pick after that. I can't describe the feeling of waiting.

He was late to draft to what if he was number one he would have missed that i think he's pretty sure he's not number one yeah he's like uh not gonna happen he said that we waited he waited um he said at one point tampa with the 25th pick that he said they had promised to draft him oh so they told him they were gonna if he was still around at 25 they were gonna take him and then the bucks took roderick jones which is another defensive back what wait yeah so he said that took me back a little bit it makes you it makes you wonder yeah well nfl team lied to you crazy right yeah they also told you it's fine to get back out there if your head's still ringing after a concussion back then so but it hurts it hurts when they tell you they're gonna draft you then they draft somebody that plays the same position

that's like they just pick somebody else man yep that happens a lot if be more than you'd know like they'll tell a guy hey we're really looking at you with that and then they just don't they just change their mind pick another running back dude it would make you furious and can't wait to face that team no shit uh he He said, though, so he waited. He got a call from the San Francisco 49ers who said they were going to draft him with their next pick, which was the 12th pick in the second round. But before they got a chance to, he said, and then the phone rang and it was Cincinnati. Great. Which is like you can't go to two different kind of organizations in the 80s than cincinnati and

san francisco san fran was the i mean the creme de la creme they they spent the money they had a a star-studded super bowl champion team and a brilliant head coach and the ownership was you know guys like a fucking gangster he takes care of the players and all that kind of shit and then you have cincinnati that's cincinnati which was like major league like the locker room there like i could see with an outboard engine in a fucking big tub is there a team who's still not won the super bowl since no because they're still the same terrible ownership that won't do anything so that's that is hilarious that he got hey this is san fran uh get ready and know your ring size we'll see you in a couple of picks and then since he snatches you out since he's like no no no we'll go to the super bowl but we'll lose to them that's what we'll do because that's

what happened so keep your ring size in mind for something that will never happen for you afc championship they give you rings for that i think It's kind of a weak ring. It's a weak ring. You don't wear that out somewhere. No. Around other players, anyway. You could wear it around people who don't know. You could wear it around the reunion of that

team. If anybody might have a real one on, a real Super Bowl ring, though, you're not wearing that. If you're going to any environment where that might happen no way he said and then the phone rang and it was Cincinnati which is tired no one wants the phone to ring and have it be the city of Cincinnati on it oh god

Cincinnati wrong number wrong I smell sulfur through the phone wrong number hang up he said head coach Sam Weiss told me congratulations you're now with the Cincinnati Bengals. I was shocked because I just talked to San Francisco, and then I heard my name called out on TV saying I'd been drafted by Cincinnati. I think I would believe that phone call, friend.

Your life just changed for the worse or the better, your call. Yeah. He said all the guys around the league that I talked to told me not to worry about who tells you they'll take you. They said it never works out that way. They never draft you. Never know. That's what happens. I kind of thought I would go to Tampa all along, but I knew Bengal secondary coach Dick LeBeau had said he was going to try to draft me real high. He said he would bring me in and I would get to play a lot. That's a good one. me in and i would get to play a lot i guess that's good that's good after i talked to coach weish

coach laboe got on the phone and told me he was happy to get me that he wanted to work with me and i felt i had a real good chance to come in and play uh he asked me if i like to play bump where the defensive back comes up and bumps the receiver as he comes off the line or off and i said i like to bump he said they like to let their cornerbacks do what they did best in college. Basically, if you're a bump guy, great. If you're not, whatever. So they said that, yeah, he was excited. He said, oh, his teammate, this is. Oh, no, this is him.

He said, I'm glad I went early, but if everybody from Auburn and Alabama had gone in the first two rounds, that would have been great by me. This is something I can't describe, to sit there and wait for something you've wanted all your life and to be given the chance to play in the nfl and then to have it come true i'm going to go out and celebrate tonight have some fun but not too much attaboy attaboy yeah you're on this show so you're a temper that you're you're you're not tempering it is the problem you're definitely an issue at some point. So August 8th, 1986 comes around here, and he is signed, and they're talking about him signing for $878,000. The Bengals offered him $878,000 for four years,

and he's asking for $975,000 for four years. The Bengals are known for being next to the Cardinals, the cheapest franchise that's ever fucking happened. I mean, that's not bad, but they're terrible at negotiating. How many Cardinal draft picks used to hold out? It used to be they'd draft high because they sucked, and then every year they'd fucking hold out. The guy would suck because he didn't play until the fourth week of training camp.

And it's the same thing. Cheap franchises do this, and that's why they don't win. You know what I mean? That's why they don't win. Yeah. You got them focused on their paycheck and not fucking winning the Super Bowl. That's right. That's crazy.

So they say he might be able to contribute early in the season as a fifth or sixth defensive back in passing situations, but they're thinking he'll be brought along slowly, is what the newspapers said. I guess he said that he's involved somehow. He has an agent, okay, but the Brown family here, Mike Brown, the owner of the Bengals, apparently just called him at home in Orlando to present the club's offer personally and also tell him he's got a deadline to accept, which you don't. It's just not done that way.

Tell my agent. Only the Bengals do that. Yeah. This isn't 1958. The guy that gets 10% to deal with this. That's what I mean. Who's now going to call his dad like they used to do back in the day? Like, that's what it was.

Well, what's you and your dad think about this who cares what he thinks that is a crazy deal though of nine eight hundred less than nine hundred thousand dollars over four years and he has to give ten percent of that to a man yeah it's no money that's no money at all that's what i mean in the end after a whole bunch i mean yeah you got you better do that a whole bunch of times i mean no not money for the rest of your life anyway or anything like right when the average nfl career is three years that's that's nothing yeah he said quote it kind of made me real mad that i got a call like that i don't fucking blame you he said it surprised me that he would call me about my contract when i have a guy negotiating a contract for me yeah Yeah. Yeah.

We have agents. If somebody called us, he'd be like, what the fuck are you talking to us for? Call him. I don't know. Yeah. Call him. I don't know. You got his number, right?

Bye. Click. That's it. I'm not talking to you about that. It's not what I do. Find him on Twitter. I don't know. We make dick jokes.

Talk to this guy about fucking money and math because we don't know anything. I think he's got an Instagram. Find him. When we handle it ourselves, we get screwed over every time. So that's why we don't handle it ourselves anymore. I'm not doing that an Instagram. Fine. Yeah. When we handle it ourselves, we got screwed over every time. So that's why we don't handle it ourselves anymore. I'm not doing that ever again. Nope. So he said that his spirits are still up, though, even though he's annoyed.

Oh, are they? Yeah. He said, this is great. In the newspaper, he said this. Quote, the girls around me are keeping me up a little bit. Oh, my God. It's all right. I got a bunch of girls around

me they're they're making me feel better that is amazing awesome he said i'm going swimming every day and working out i just stay busy to try to keep my mind off what's going on and he says he goes to the movies he said i've seen every new movie coming out and they said well what's the best one he said aliens the sequel to alien so the wait is over so far you're not losing the only thing you're losing is my patience quickly i see that the queen of the courtroom is back i didn't do anything you wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases.

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Super inalienable. I was getting hand jobs in the popcorn bowl. He's like, oh, man, it was great. Yeah, I cut a hole in the bottom. I'd do that whole thing. Actually, I'm a ball player. I came hard as watching Aliens. Actually, I'm a ball player. I'd hold the popcorn in my arms, eat it, and just take my dick right out.

It's fine. Did anybody else around here get drafted by anybody didn't think so so 86 the bengals are 10 and 6 that year really is not terrible yeah they were good in the mid 80s there for a while with boomer and all that and fucking icky woods coming in and everything but still contract in mid-august he's still not signed really yep contract snafu keeps billups out from the Cincinnati Inquirer here. And they said that he is not at practice still, and people are, you know, it's a problem if you've got a rookie that you want to bring in.

So, yeah, they said he's not on the scene. His contract is a problem, and I guess he would come with. He came to the facility but didn't work out and just kind of stayed in street clothes and watched oh really so yeah I guess he's trying not to be he's trying to show he wants to be part of the team but also you know what the fuck at some point I don't know you have to also pay them so I guess he finally agrees to the money here, but that hasn't been signed yet at some point here. So the coach here, Sam Weich said, we'll start by giving him coverage when he masters that we'll give him one more coverage to work with. Just let him grow slowly

and master one thing at a time, as opposed to taking on a lot of things at once, which seems good here. So Billups said, I know most of it. There's still some I have to pick up, but I'm just glad to be here. He said the contract talks were discouraging. He said most of my friends had already left for pro camps, but the hard part was when the other guys started leaving for college. College? What the hell are you hanging out with?

Okay. So they think he got about $950 50 for four years which is a little less than he wanted a little more they wanted to give him nobody's happy there you go everybody's let's make this a relationship for four years come on in nobody's happy everybody's happy everybody wins i guess is how it works and like we said this is the mid-80s bangles pretty good you got some uh a couple of hall of fame we got like Montoya in there, guys like that who are really good. He, this year, plays in 12 games, starts 12 games, actually. Wow.

At right cornerback, too. Incredible. That's not bad here. That's not the main corner. That's the off corner if you're playing a right-handed quarterback. Receiver, too. Yeah, so he was known to wear the opponent's t-shirt the day of the game all the time that was his shtick that he would do he'd always wear the opponent's opposing team t-shirt

under his shit as like a reminder that he wanted to kick their ass so yeah interesting um his teammates nicknamed him he got a nice nickname here oh Oh, here we go. They nicknamed him Toast. That's very nice. Is that right? Not because he had a smell like he'd been burned recently or anything like that. It's because he kept being burned by receivers. So to the point where they nicknamed him Toast. Somebody who has been burnt. The double move all day.

All day. Not a good one-on-one guy here so all of them are getting them yep uh 87 cincinnati that is the strike year that's the weird replacement player year and all that weird shit so very strange year yeah they go 4 and 11 that year which is kind of a mess, obviously. But you don't know who the hell you blame for that. Doesn't really matter. I mean, Lewis starts 11 games, all the games that weren't started by replacement players. He has a fumble recovery and no interceptions, but a fumble recovery. That's what he has that year.

So June 24th, 87 is when he has having problems. So before the season, before all of this, this is from the newspaper. An arrest warrant issued for Lewis Phillips, who's accused of assaulting a Cincinnati area woman. What did he do? Apparently assaulted a Cincinnati area woman. He's charged with felonious assault for beating a woman named Tracy Fair, who's 21 years old. Oh, my God.

He allegedly hit her in the face and head, breaking her nose and perforating her eardrum. Why? So that's not even a paint brushing. That's punching somebody in the face and fucking head. Did she have a knife or i was gonna say what was she trying to like hold up a mcdonald's or some shit and he jumped he jumped in and saved the day other than that felonious beating this is a that sounds felonious that sounds like an ass whooping certainly

yeah it sounds like she sounds like he got the best of her i would say i would say he won the fight yeah he could he could chalk that up as a win, probably. He's like, I'll beat this 21-year-old lady's ass, sure. I don't hear any injuries to him, but hers are numerous. Yeah, she experiences 30% hearing loss and had to undergo surgery to repair her eardrum. She's going to be going, what's that now? Forever, because of this guy. She's going to be saying, speak into my good ear. What's that? Yeah, turn in her head going what's that now forever because this guy's going to be saying speak into my good ear what's that yeah turn in her head what's that now this way to oh my god that is fucking insane so she filed a complaint against him on the evening of the assault but

didn't sign a warrant until monday night they said and police have not been able to locate billups who has a residence in Orlando. And the police chief here said, to the best of our knowledge, he's in Florida. Be careful, everybody. He's in Florida. Watch out. There's a felonious assault. That's all we know.

He's going to feloniously assault you. Then June 26, 87, he will return to the Cincinnati area to face charges that he beat up a girlfriend. Turns out it's his girlfriend, of course. And, yeah, he's going to be charged with that. The June 14th attack here. Apparently, yeah, he used also, in addition to beating her about the head and face, perforating her eardrum and breaking her nose, he also held her in place and used scissors to cut off some of her hair during this too. He's one of those guys. He's one of those guys.

He's one of those I'll make you ugly guys. Yeah, I'll make you remember this when you wake up. This is a sick fuck. That's a sick fuck. Anybody who, at 20 fucking one years old you're doing this? 22 years old? 23? 23 he is right now.

23. Is this domestic violence or is this like in public and they just like got in a fight or what the fuck? 22 years old? 23? 23 he is right now. 23. Is this domestic violence or is this like in public and they just like got in a fight or what the fuck? Why would he have scissors? It's domestic. That's fucked up. He was waiting for her when she arrived home from a Cincinnati Reds baseball game and asked her if she had seen any men at the game. What guys are you hanging out with at the game? Oh, for God's sake, man.

Yeah, that kind of shit. That's what she told the cops, and then he beat the living shit out of her and cut a bunch of her hair off to show her. I'll show you. See how much they want you now. The insecurity. This is wild, man.

What a fucking lunatic. So Mike Brown, assistant general manager of the Bengals, said the team has arranged for Cincinnati lawyers James Perry to represent Billups. Wow, that's pretty silver. They're actually arranging his lawyer for him. He doesn't even have to get his own lawyer. That's wild. Yeah, how do you, as an employer, how do you say, we'll get you a lawyer, don't worry about it.

Beating women, and you're willing to help defend that. I mean, we got him a lawyer we'll make sure he's out of this so um then a couple months later here august 29th 1987 the charges are dropped oh yes um she had filed the charges as we know that she was severely beaten and everything like that uh but they said that she made a police report and now she says she does not want to press charges against Phillips. And they can't go forward without her testimony and everything. So they end up dropping the fucking charges.

So that is interesting here. By the way, right under that is a very interesting article about an Indiana boy killed in a stock car race. Oh. A 13-year-old boy named Toby was killed when he was struck and dragged beneath a stock car that careened into the pits at a race that fucking week. Holy shit. Holy shit.

It happened during the next-to-last lap of a street stock feature race, and the car was struck from behind by a vehicle, went out of control, took this kid out, and dragged him farther. Wow, that's a lot. Where the hell were you standing, Cody? I don't understand any of that.

Toby. Toby was in the pits, I think. Why was he so close to the action? Yeah, the kid can come down and help out, you know, grab a tool. It's some low-level fucking racing. What do you think, they hire people? And it's the 716.

Yeah, that's what I mean. You think they hire people for this. Toby, Toby, Toby, give me that fucking. Yeah, that's what they got.

Give me the spark plug ratchet. You know, it has to be what that is. So Tracy fair would end up filing a civil suit against Billups as well. Oh, and at this point in the civil trial, it comes out. She testifies.

Tracy does. Oh, boy. That he threatened to hire someone to cut her face with a razor blade. What is his deal? And then he also threatened to, quote, finish the job if she did not drop the criminal charges against him. Holy. So I'll either have you sliced up or I will kill you if you don't do that. Finish it.

Yeah. She also testified that she required six operations on her face from the assault, including a bone grafting procedure in which her nose was reconstructed with a bone pulled from her skull and rib cage. She had to have a deep nose job. Yeah. Her nose put back together. guy he from her ribs that's insane man so he ended up paying her thirty thousand dollars in an out-of-court settlement

which is less than surgery would cost that's crazy yeah the other part is like you only got 900 grand you better take it easy you can't afford much of these. No, you can't. Absolutely not. I mean, I hope for his case, he's like, well, this is only my first contract. I'm going to be paid well after this. As L.A. Mike Richardson will tell you, maybe that doesn't work out like that. So 1988, Bengals 12-4. Crushing it. They beat the Seahawks in the first round of the playoffs back when they were over in the AFC.

They beat the Bills 21-10 that year and then lose in a very, very, one of the better Super Bowls of all time, actually, against the Niners 20-16. They had the game won for 58 minutes and then Joe Montana marched them down the field, and John Taylor, and that was that. And if Stanley had been there, who knows? That's the other thing. This is the Stanley Wilson Super Bowl. We've talked about this Super Bowl many times in the past. If you haven't heard the Stanley Wilson episode from about seven years ago,

you really should hear that because it's insane. Asshole Chris Collinsworth on this team. Boomer osiason imagine how great it would be to get to tackle him oh god jesus i wish oh we all over the middle lucky he jumps for a ball and you're like oh i'm putting everything into this maybe i'll break him harnessing all that is Jack Lambert. Just letting him have it. The whole body into it. Throw yourself sideways at him.

Fucking video he made. Jesus, what a monster. That was really disturbing shit. What a monster. Lewis starts all 16 games this year. He has started every game he's ever played in. Unbelievable. Apparently like him.

He has four picks this year, too. Four interceptions. That's great. Which is pretty damn good. Two fumble recoveries and a touchdown, too. The man's contributing. He's definitely, absolutely contributing. But now you're going up against in the Super Bowl.

You got John Taylor, Jerry Rice. There's so many weapons offensively. It's really hard to deal with that whole offense so there's a newspaper article from january 20th 1989 and this is an apt fucking tag here bangles worry billups bravado could backfire you think that's so many bees that's a lot yeah they were really having funny with that my god so they said there's a thousand stories in Miami this week. It was Super Bowl week. And Louis Billups would like to be in all of them is what it says.

The football stories, the police reports, whatever you got, he's in. When he wakes up each morning, he knows there's a headline out there somewhere with his name on it. Jesus. knows there's a headline out there somewhere with his name on it jesus they said uh billups the 25 year old third year cornerback out of north alabama met mr microphone before he watched mr rogers and he wears an attitude and an air of bravado that unnerve even his teammates he's a dick basically he's just a dick dick. Sounds like it. Yeah. They said as the Bengals approached the playoffs, they found themselves hoping Billups could find a way to be boring. Jesus Christ.

This, this is a running back here. Stanford Jennings, one of since he's running backs. He said the only person we worried about was Lewis Billups coming into this week because he's been known to give a few little predictions. We like to call him lewis the greek like jimmy the greek the yeah the point spread guy i think the whole team kind of got it

across sam meaning coach weish there uh might have said something you don't really want to say anything too outrageous you know you don't want to have that because they'll all that's all they'll talk about for two weeks in your fucking mouth for a week. Yeah, he said it's just his predictions. What's funny is he's hit it on the head a couple of times. Like the predictions aren't bad. Billups, though, he says that it's just that's just who he is, man. And he says that's what a defensive back is. You got to be cocky.

You know, you're like a fighter pilot, basically. And he said, this is Lewis. He said, they say I'm the most oatspoken. I almost got Canadian there. Oatspoken. Oatspoken. He's speaking about oats. They say I'm the most outspoken person on the team.

I feel like if you're going to be on the corner, you've got to be a little cocky. Okay. Yeah, it's kind of like quarterbacking. You know you're a heartbeat away from getting beat for a touchdown, so you've got to have confidence, a little cockiness that you can get your job done. It's kind of like being the most important and popular person on the team yeah i'm not i'm not now the corner that's you do have to act like that on the corner though if you if you do get burned you have to go well that never happened nobody ever burned me it's like being a closing

pitcher or uh there's a lot of different ones like that he says also billups says freedom of speech is alive and well in the Bengals camp, is what he says here, but his teammates requested that he wait until the weekend to give his prediction for the Super Bowl so he wouldn't get mad at it. Nobody on the other side would get pissed off at him. This is veteran defensive back Ray Horton

said the coaches told Billups, quote, Lewis, quiet down a little bit. There's nothing wrong with saying what you believe, but remember, there's somebody else who reads too. So, yeah, his teammates can't remember anything Billups has said this season that was particularly bad. They said it's just those predictions. Stop making predictions here.

Stop saying it. Yeah, stop saying shit. And he does have a, oh, no, that's in the whole playoffs here. The problem is, though, he's remembered during the Super Bowl for his dropped interception in the beginning of the fourth quarter. The Bengals were up 13-6, and the Niners started at the Bengals' 10-yard line, and Joe Montana threw a pass toward Billups, and he dropped it fucking right there. He had it dead in his hands. And on the next play, the Niners scored a touchdown,

tying the game at 13. Shit. That's a problem. Yeah. Then, so then obviously John Taylor caught it, and that was that. So he's known for that was the end. If he caught that, the game's over. Game's over, yeah.

That's it. They win the game, and that's pretty much the end of the world there for San Francisco. And we probably see that play for the next 40 years rather than Taylor. Oh, he's a hero. He's a fucking hero. Yeah, I mean, Christ, he might have won fucking MVP if he did that, if he had a few other decent plays.

All about Icky Woods. That's it. Oh, man, he would have been huge. So 1989 Bengals, they go 8-8, not quite as good, and it's a downhill slide from there. By 91, they're fucking terrible. They're like a two-win team or some shit. Not wonderful here. He, though,

starts all 16 games, has two interceptions, which is not too bad, I guess. 1990, Bengals are 9-7. Again, it's okay, I guess, but nothing special here. He starts 14 games that year, has three interceptions, and two fumble recoveries.

So not too shabby. 1990 comes around here, and now we have a problem. This is February 6, 1990, just after the season. This is the Arizona Republic. So the local in Phoenix there. in the Maricopa County area. Oh, yes. Let's just read from the top. Cincinnati Bengals defensive back Louis Billups pointed a gun

at two undercover police officers. What? And then drove into northern Kentucky at a high rate of speed before being stopped and charged with weapons violations on January 4th. The officer said this was. Yeah, I had to be, I guess.

Billups, who's why else would you go to Kentucky from Cincinnati? Billups, who was free on nine thousand dollars bail, appeared in a preliminary hearing on a felony charge of illegally transporting a loaded weapon and two misdemeanor charges of aggravated menacing, which seems wow. That's weird. That's assault with a deadly weapon. That's what that is. Police officers, especially here. Right.

That same day, by the way, Gerald Perry, who was a Broncos offensive lineman, had to serve two concurrent 15 day jail terms after he was convicted of soliciting a prostitute in Denver. Gerald. So that's nice. February 15th, 1990 Billups here is going to be sentenced. He pleads guilty, I guess here.

And he only has to complete 40 hours of community service for carrying a concealed weapon. Oh, but I guess he faces more serious charges in Hamilton County Municipal Court in Cincinnati, where two undercover police officers testified that he pointed a gun at them. So I would say so. He has nine months to complete the community service. But they end up dismissing his concealed weapons charge.

Oh. Which I don't understand here. Yeah, they're going to try to figure it out and go from there. I guess two plainclothes Cincinnati officers testified on February 5th they saw Billups with a handgun in his car before he was stopped by a police officer in Kentucky. They said that he was ordered to perform 40 hours of community service and he has to do it within nine months. That's instead of facing a misdemeanor charge of carrying a concealed weapon i don't know so here we go february 22nd 1990 he claims racism in concealed weapons charges that's the title of the article yeah he says he never pointed

a gun at two undercover officers on january 4th and claims his arrest was uh racially motivated how did they know he had a gun he said quote uh well you know what let's do it in their own words on January 4th and claims his arrest was racially motivated. How did they know he had a gun? He said, quote, well, you know what? Let's do it in their own words on this. What do you say? Let's give him. Let's give him.

He wants to have a say. Let's give him a say here. Let's Lewis says in their own words, quote, it's nothing but racism. They saw a young black man in a sports car and decided something must be up. The judge saw through the whole thing. If I had been anyone else, they wouldn't have pressed so hard for the felony charge. As soon as they found out I was Lewis Phillips with the Cincinnati Bengals, they decided to push hard for it.

I definitely think it was racism. So I don't know. Maybe I'm not sure. I wasn't there. Body cams would have helped there. Did he point it or not? That would have been good. So, yeah, they dismissed the felony concealed weapon charge,

but there's still the three misdemeanor charges pending, two for aggravated menacing, and one for improper transportation of a firearm there. So the police chief in Cincinnati refused to comment. Billups also was upset with the media for the way they played it up. He said, the radio and television stations made it look like I was riding around looking for a store to rob or to murder somebody. He said they blew it way out of proportion. I'm very upset with the media over this. OK.

He said he's a gun collector and often shoots at Mark's Guns and Target Range in Florence, Kentucky. That's all they knew. Yeah, he said that he lives in Fort Mitchell, Kentucky, and he informed the police department there of his gun collection when he moved to town, but he wanted to find out if he needed permits. On the day of his arrest, he said he left his apartment en route to the shooting range, but drove first to Globe Record Store downtown to pick up some albums. And he said he had a handgun in the holster on top of the console that separates the two seats in his corvette he said the car does not have a glove

compartment when he returned to his car from the record store he said the gun had fallen from the holster and slipped between the console and the seat that's a pretty bad holster then yeah it's not doing the one thing it's designed to do, which is to keep a gun in it. Also, that's not the appropriate place to place a weapon. No. If it can slide around the vehicle, that's a problem. It's not secured, which is really what it's supposed to be here. He said, all I did was pick up the gun and put it back in the holster.

That's all. I didn't point it or wave it or anything. One of the cops said I pointed the gun at him. I didn't. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. So they schedule his court appearance here. It's supposed to be for April 27th to go

through all of this. And in that same exact article right below it, there's an obituary for a little leaguer who died in a game. Did he pull a gun on a car? He did. They shot him dead right at first base. Little leaguer,

William Ryan Wojcik, 10, who died from heart failure after a wild pitch struck him in the chest in Tampa. Fuck. Had no history of heart problems. Just got hit by a pitch and died. A 10 year old hit him.

Yeah. So it's a pitch is going 58 miles an hour tops. Tops. Oh, my. And hit him in the chest and he died. That's just the right timing. Hit him in between a beat. How many times did that little league coach say,

the ball can't hurt you, just it's okay, don't be afraid of it, it can't hurt you. And then all the kids on both teams saw a kid get hit and die right on the field. They're probably like fuck that i'm taking my glove off man i'm going home coach i'm laying it down right now dude i'm done with this shit i'm retired wow no heart pro wasn't like he had a bunch of heart problems and the doctor said whatever you do don't hit him in the chest that didn't even happen and now that now that little that pitcher for the rest of his life is going around going, I fucking killed a guy.

I killed a guy. My fastball when I was 10. I used to play ball, but my pitch was so fast I killed a kid when I was 10 in the fifth grade, so I decided I can't do it no more. Yeah. Ever seen that one where that kid falls out of a tree or gets hit by lightning or something, then he pitches for the Cubs? That was me kind of, but I

didn't want to kill anymore. Too much blood on my hands. I didn't want to kill anymore. Had blood on my hands and I couldn't do it anymore. I didn't sleep until I was 17. Yeah, he's grizzled, drinking cheap whiskey, smoking cigarettes, going, let me tell you

about Little League, everybody. Take another Lord Calvert, please. Take another Lord Calvert, please. Take two more Calverts, please. Oh, my God. So here we are in April 5th, 1990. He is now indicted on a felony count now. Indicted on one felony count of carrying a concealed weapon. That's with that incident.

It's not allowed, yeah. And I guess, yeah, he said he wasn't allowed here. They said the prosecutor said that the grand jury's indictment is unaffected by a judge's dismissal of the felony concealed weapon charge brought by police. They said no court date's been set yet. And of course, he's pissed off here. Yeah. They said they followed him in their unmarked car at speeds of up to 65 miles an hour. Court date's been set yet, and of course, he's pissed off here. Yeah.

They said they followed him in their unmarked car at speeds of up to 65 miles an hour before he was pulled over by a Mark Cruiser, and they got the gun and all that kind of shit. So May 1st, 1990, he has not signed a contract, and he has gun charges, and he does not show up at bengal's mini camp which you're supposed to do yeah which isn't great by the way on that same day dave meggett a oh another guy another guy here was acquitted of charges of selection soliciting sex after a three-day trial in which he insisted he was just being polite to an undercover policewoman. I politely offered her $50 for a blowjob. That's very polite. I politely said, I'll get you a nice dinner.

I didn't say, give me a blowjob. That would be impolite. I said, I'll give you money for a blowjob, which to me is very polite. I thought I was being very polite. He is a fucking monster, if you haven't heard the Dave Megan episode, by the way. And he is where the shawarma man came from, as a matter of fact. So June 25th, 1990, Billups

admits gun charges now. Oh! Now he pleads guilty to three misdemeanor charges. They make a deal with him here. Well, why'd he do that? He really goes back and forth a lot on what he's talking about here. This is crazy. So he faces maximum penalties

of six months in jail and a thousand dollar fine on each of the three charges. Here he was arrested, obviously, in northern Kentucky and all this type of shit. Really making anything he says hard to believe after that. It's really difficult, yeah. So finally, July 31st, 1990.

This is the middle of training camp here. He is going to get you, sir, may fuck off 30 days in jail for this. Oh, Lewis. Yep. He gets 30 days in jail to be served after the NFL season, though. Oh. Like, we don't want you to miss. At your leisure.

We don't want you to miss training camp. I mean, we're all bengals fans here honestly yeah making the super bowl probably saved him because it made the bengals like you know less of a laughingstock around there that's gotta really hurt because i think canton is closest to that town right it's gotta probably there cleveland one of the two it's much closer to Columbus, I think. I think so. To Cincinnati, I think.

I think it's more southern, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, probably. It's got to sting. Sting a little bit here. He was sentenced to 180 days, but they suspended 150 days of it.

And he's on one year of probation as well. Oh. Yeah. That's a pretty tough sentence then. That's, I mean, he could fuck up. If he fucks up, he's in trouble here. So the Bengals, though, here's an article right then about how they need Billups, even if they don't like it, is the title of this article from the newspaper.

They say, probably Louis Billups will play football for the Cincinnati Bengals this year. When the urge strikes him, Bengals assistant general manager Mike Brown will make Billups agent Ed Sewell an offer that both will find reasonable. Billups will sign and Cincinnati will have one quarterback it knows can cover an NFL wide receiver. That's one more than the team has now. We're terrible and he's decent, so it's fine if you just sign him. You know, as much as it does hurt to have a team that stinks when your team stinks, it's brutal, but it does lend to the best news articles like that.

Just it'll be one more than they have now. It's they're pretty bad. So, uh, I don't know. He's mediocre. That's an upgrade. He can at least cover a wide receiver.

That's it. An NFL receiver. He said, Billups will not be crazy about playing here, and the Bengals will not be wild about having him. The injuries. That sounds like an old married couple fucking. He's not crazy about fucking her, and she's not real crazy about having his dick. But there they are.

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You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So the injuries to cornerback Eric Thomas and free safety Ricky Dixon have put the Bengals in a distasteful position of needing a player they don't really want. Yeah. That's right. But a week later, Bengals-Billups chasm widens, they say here. Oh. Apparently, yeah. It's not going well.

The Bengals and Louis Billups entered a cold war of sorts Sunday. See what I mean? God, this is awesome. A cold war. Yeah. And there's nothing else to talk about because the team sucks. It's not like, oh, we're excited about this or that. Oh, by the way, they're having a hard time signing Billups. There's none of that shit. Uh, that's when Billups agent says assistant general manager, Mike Brown didn't offer a counter proposal and told him the club is preparing to play this season without its unsigned quarterback. Then his agent said, that's about where it stands now. I guess that meant that he didn't accept the offer. I guess not. The agent wouldn't say if his client is prepared to sit out the season, but it appears he scaled down his latest proposal. set out the season, but it appears he scaled down his latest proposal. When asked

if he was using the estimated $800,000 salary of safety David Fulcher as the ceiling and wide receiver Tim McGee's estimated $700,000 a year as a floor, Sewell said, I wouldn't say that. So, Billups made $200,000 last year,

so they're trying to get a little more, which is, yeah. They said they also said that the Bengals have no interest in Dave Dewarson, who we talked about a few weeks ago there. They said, we're pleased with our safety men. When's the last? What outside of 1945? When's the last time someone said safety men?

Jesus Christ. So trying to sign him anyway, but this is going to the season. And then finally, September 6, 1990, Bengals welcome cornerback Lewis Billups now. He's in. Yep. The signing of cornerback Lewis Billups gives the Cincinnati Bengals exactly what they need in their pass defense. Someone who knows what he's doing. That's great. Billups ended a 42-day walkout by signing with a new contract.

Terms were not disclosed. Bengals players are threatened with financial penalties if they reveal contract details. Really? Which is absolutely not okay with their union now. You couldn't say that now. That's to keep salaries down. That's why they do that. You're not allowed to tell him.

Fuck you. I'll tell you. Yeah. Whatever job you have, immediately, day one, everybody tell everybody else what they're making. Or else you're going to all get fucked over. That's it. Yeah, that's how it works. There's a reason why they don't want you to talk about it.

It's not because it's going to hurt you. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's not because it does anything about making, yeah, it makes things tense in here because it should make it tense for the fucking boss, not for you. Yeah, you're not making money. Shit, you're the one. Hey, if we suck, who's fucking losing money? Not me. You.

Right. So that's your problem. So make us all happy here. So anyway, yeah, they said, he told me I'm starting Sunday, Billups said, after a brief meeting with the coaches. He hasn't even been in training camp. He hasn't picked up a football, and now he's going to start in the NFL? And they said, how the hell are you going to start a guy who, basically he signed Wednesday, he's going to start Sunday with no training camp.

And Dick LeBeau said he knows the defense. That counts for a lot. We haven't changed anything. That's not good, Dick. And everybody else we have is terrible. So they said that both he, Billups,ups and bangles compromised their positions this week to get it done billups said everybody just wanted to get it over with it was a compromise and a very good compromise well i guess so so uh he said not taking anything away from rod and carl the other

guys but they play a lot of zone in phoenix and tampa you know what dick laboe plays a lot of blitzes and bump and run and and that's what I'm used to. So he said he's been running to stay in shape, but he admits he'll be rusty at pass defense. He said, I don't know how rusty I'll be. Well, considering that's your fucking job, it's going to be difficult. Yeah, that's the whole thing. He should have just done his 30 days while he was holding out.

Just get it all over with at once here. But, yeah, he said that he'll be. He also said that he's going to. He worked out another deal after the sentencing to avoid jail time and serve the sentence through home incarceration. I was doing it at home. Yeah, that is fucking silly, man. So basically, during the whole problem with all this, apparently, they said that he said Billups said he felt he wasn't welcome in Cincinnati. And Mike Brown, the general manager and the owner's son, said bullshit. Sure you are.

And Brown said, quote, Now it's not trade me. It's pay me. He wants more money. That's what they told him during the. That's what they told the press. We're not going to give it to him. He'll have to pay the consequences. Oh, wow. That is. They're not going to give it to him. He'll have to pay the consequences. Wow.

They're so fucking cheap. Jesus Christ. So regardless, he entered his option year, scheduled to earn $575,000 that season, was fined $1,500 a day, each for missing the 42nd day when he signed a new contract. And they wiped that all out. Otherwise, he'd owe $70,000 back to the team. So 1991, they go 3-13. They're fucking terrible. 3-13.

Holy. Every once in a while, 2 o'clock in the morning when I'm working, I'll put on an old fucking game on YouTube, and a few weeks ago I put on a 1991 Monday night football it's like week seven I want to say Bengals Bills and the Bills were great at that time period they made the Super Bowl four years and the Bengals were oh and six at the time and it was such a fucking disaster Jimmy it was such a disaster they would everything they did was wrong they were fucking up they kept fumbling it was like

jim kelly threw three picks in the first half and they didn't score on any of them they just they were terrible at one point fucking uh uh boomer esiason throws a 50 yard touchdown pass but he had stepped up past the line of scrimmage so they called it off oh my god the next play he throws an interception that's that was how it went it was the it was i've never watched a football game that was that funny i was cracking up laughing it was like a comedy show like somebody wrote it it was fucking hilarious this game just a comedy of errors it was awesome if you ever want to watch a funny game that's the one to do it so bad fucking team just a goddamn disaster and they were kept like it was monday

night football so they kept showing interviews and they'd show interviews with everybody so god how bad could it get your own six is it gonna get worse and they're like listen we think our team's still good and it's we can you know we can still have a decent season make the playoffs don't worry oh my god so he only started seven games that year out of 13 and had one fumble recovery and no interceptions out of 13 and had one fumble recovery and no interceptions. So 1992 now, he's going to be gone from Cincinnati. And April 2nd, 1992, the Green Bay Packers signed with Billups. Billups said he almost signed with Tampa because Sam White just got hired because he got fired after 91.

Oh, he went down there, huh? Yeah, but he said he didn't. He said, we had some disputes, but I almost signed with Tampa Bay today. I respect Sam. I could have played for him. But he didn't. He signs with Green Bay here. So that's nice.

That's April 1992. Green Bay gets to figure out, you know, here's the thing. When you get a new guy, you want to get all of him, not just on the field. You want to get all of the off the field. You want the flavor. When you get a new guy, you want to get all of him. You know, not just on the field. You want to get all the off the field. You want the flavor. The whole piece. The whole piece of him.

And they get that. By July 1992, he adds his full flavor to the team. When an Orlando decorator obtained a restraining order against him. Orlando decorator? Or a decorator in Orlando where he lives. Orlando decorator or a decorator in Orlando where he lives yeah apparently alleged that he that Billups had quote become irrational hostile and abusive and threatened to physically harm her why is he so insecure I hate this love scene fuck these curtains it's a decorator I don't know if he's going out with her we'll talk about it but

that's just funny the way they put it made it sound like it was a decorating dispute in the newspaper it's just wild some sort of shape or sofa that he can't take yeah they argued over the color of the accent wall and then he just i will kick your fucking ass and she was like oh hold on it's too much pink in here chill out man jesus well that was a weird thing in the early 90s that pink was just the 80s fucking everywhere in your house that light pastel pink was so popular kitchens too yeah jesus christ yeah i don't know what's going on in the 90s pink inside the house why are you doing this the 80s too pink everywhere. Yeah, and it carried right on into fucking Weekend at Bernie's area. Yeah, once 92 came along, it was good.

It started, yeah. But like 91 is still the 80s. Yeah, it sure is. It still looks like it. So 92 Green Bay, which obviously makes sense, too, because you look at shit from 83, you go, that looks like the 70s. Yeah, yeah. It still looks the same hair, same collars. What's going on here? Lots of brown and green. makes sense too because like you look at shit from 83 you go that looks like the 70s yeah yeah it still looks same hair same collars what's going on here lots of brown and green yeah like 82 it's still the same thing it doesn't turn into the 80s till like 84 that's what it's like brown yeah so

popular ew yeah oh in the 70s was like yeah i want like like like puke like baby puke yellow yeah yeah mustard brown green yeah what's that green grain yeah give me like any kind of green vegetable flavor that color dark that weird green deep stupid green yeah fucking deep not appliances that color yeah yeah deep green avocado weird fucking yeah vegetable green is the only way to describe it. It's bad. So 92 is Green Bay, and that is kind of a transition time for Green Bay because Mike Holmgren just took over here. I was going to ask if Holmgren was there yet. So they go 9-7 this year.

Okay. And Lewis is on the team, and we'll find out a little bit here about what uh he did here but he um he said he would like to sue is what he'd like to do he wants to sue her in the middle of the in the middle of the uh team here he said he would like to sue for libel if he could but his lawyer tells him the best he can do is just get himself out of it um yeah he says that he is among eight members of the 1990 Cincinnati Bengals who have hired lawyers to defend themselves against rape charges brought against 20 players. Yeah, this is a big deal.

The charges stem from an alleged 1990 incident in a hotel room outside Seattle after a game. Oh, my God. Billups and the seven others claim they had no involvement and have been charged only because they are black. So the other 12 players, Billups says, will say the other eight weren't at the hotel. And Billups said, I didn't know anything about it. If the girl came up to me right now and shook my hand, I would because I don't even know what she looked like.

He's being accused of rape in a hotel, like group sex? It seems like a gang rape. Yeah, like a team rape, I guess it would be in this case. Defensive backs now. It was fucking gross. So the woman's charging that she was, quote, sadistically raped. One woman? One woman by 13 to 15 Bengal players.

Jesus Christ, you guys. Dude, that is disturbing. That's, I mean, good fucking God. Number one, even the Vikings got a shitload of strippers on the boat. Yeah, even they got a boat and invited people. This is just one person? We're all going to fucking Bobby's's hotel room to fucking this is ridiculous uh after the october 3rd 1990 game in seattle she said the rape occurred during a two-hour period on the floor of

a hotel room here um lawyers peter burns and brad keller of seattle who represent billups and seven others said this quote the charges made by the plaintiff and her lawyers against these eight players are reckless, false, and defamatory. Yeah. The players had no involvement of any kind with the so-called woman, and there is absolutely no basis for bringing them into this lawsuit other than the fact that they are black athletes who happened to play for the Bengals at the time.

Each of the 20 players charged is black. Named in the suit are James Francis, Barney Bussey, Eric Thomas, Rodney Holman, I remember him, Tim McGee, Reggie Rembrandt, I remember him, David Fulcher, Ricky Dixon, Eric Ball, Harold Green. These are a lot of names that are on the team for a long time. Eddie Brown, Mitchell Price, and then Billups, Craig Ogletree, Bernard Clark, Icky Woods. Oh, no. Icky.

No, Icky, all smiley in the grocery store, spiking shit and dancing on commercials. No. Maybe he did something so bad. Ickathy, please. Ickathin. Yeah, Ickneel. Call. Icathen. Yeah, Ickneel. Call me Ickneel. Icky Woods.

Craig Taylor, Carl Carter. That's a bad name. Solomon Wilcots and Leo Barker. Billups said she didn't know who all the guys were, so she mentioned all the black guys on the team. Especially she put in the highest paid. so she mentioned all the black guys on the team, especially she put in the highest paid. She probably put in the pecking order the highest paid black guys on the team

because it's a civil suit and she wants money for it. Well, probably, I mean, black or not, he's the whitest guy in the world, but I would accuse Boomer. He's probably making the most money. Boomer! Boomer, Boomer, rate me. Look, there's fucking white hairs all over me.

Gross. I feel like a cat shed on me. Oh, shit. They said, Billups sat in the Packers locker room Thursday and reflected on the event since last Tuesday when the players were identified. He talked about how his name should be removed from the case,

but that wouldn't be enough for him. No? He said, I don't want it to end like that. I want us to sue the woman because they said we really can't do that because she didn't come out in the media and say Louis Billups did this. I don't think it's fair. Of course, the media is going to get hold of it and print it because of who we are.

So, yeah, I mean, come on, Jesus Christ. He said this is ridiculous. He said that, I guess, by the way, he has a pet cougar at this point. Oh, dear God, of course he does. That's how fucking nuts he is. He's got a pet cougar. Anybody we've talked to who's had exotic animals, they're out of their fucking minds. It's Tyson.

It's guys like that. They're fucking nuts. So a pet cougar and that he wore sunglasses during the packers picture day and he says that you know anyone can own a dog is what he says and everyone poses with sunglasses off that's why he did it because i i don't i'm fucking dog that's lame i get a cougar and i'm not everybody yeah he said everybody can follow the leader right i don't like that. I want to be different.

You are on a uniform with 53, in a uniform with 53 other guys wearing the exact same fucking uniform. They're dressed the same way as you. Exactly. Even your shoes have to be the same color. Also, follow the leader? You're accused in gang rape where everybody does that. Don't use those words. Jesus Christ.

They said, quote, he wants to be cocky. He has more football cards above his locker than any other Packers player. Each of the cards is of himself. He has his own cards. His own cards up there. What an asshole. He might be the only Packers player who could outbrag first-round pick Terrell Buckley. He might be the only Packers player who could live with quarterback Don Makowski and talk down on him.

I guess everybody liked Makowski. He said, when I was first here, I just started messing with Makowski all the time during practice, during the game. We would have the same kind of aura about us. So when I was looking for a place, he said, I've got a house. You can just stay there he said that um yeah he said so he's gonna that's what he gave him his house i just said he could play live in my house sure why not that's interesting um so anyway um after the october fourth game this year against the falcons he loses his temper at the post-game press conference.

Has a bit of a freak out there. Then on the flight back from Atlanta, he ordered food and the food arrived late, so he screamed at the stewardess at the time. Stewardess is what he called her and what they are, flight attendants. Screamed at the flight attendant until she ran away crying. Wow.

We'll go with stewardess if you're crying at work so your flight attendant till tears start coming down your eyes and then i don't care what gender you are you're stewardess at that point right flight attendants throw three throw people off planes yeah they fucking call yeah they get pissed stewart ran away crying not just if you stood there with a tear and still fucking bob i'm down'm down with you. You know what I mean? You can't control your insides. Maybe you got all. But if you ran away crying, then again, he's a terrifying man.

So you know what? He punches women, dude. He'll break her earlobe. He'd probably send one of us running away crying. I don't know if the meal was late. I'm not sure. So you know what? I take all what I just said back.

But fuck it. So after the plane landed, he's having a bad day, okay? Bad press conference, makes a stewardess cry, lands, gets in his car, drives, and crashes his car. How? Well, he went up on a curb and took out a wire to a power pole, causing a thousand people to lose power, of course, too. Took the whole power span down of course this guy can't just even when he even when he's trying to just be self-destructive a thousand people lose electricity like he's a fucking disaster this guy that means he drove up that

wire that goes down from the pole he drove up it and got his car stuck on. Yeah. What a fucking idiot. He's not good at this, man. So he does all that. He's issued a ticket for, I'm sure, driving like an asshole would probably be the official terminology. Reckless driving, failure to control your vehicle. There's a lot of different ways to consider it. Behind the wheel. There we go.

That's all you now. So then he shows up at the practice facility on Monday and finds out that he's been released by the Packers. Oh, shit. Yes. He had lost his starting job to rookie Terrell Buckley, who was a starter for years with the Packers there. Yeah, he was a good player. He was a real good player. His first-round draft pick, too.

And, yeah, if you're a guy they just signed out of Cincinnati, didn't give huge money to, and they draft a first-round pick, that guy's getting the job when he figures it out, like, obviously. And they said that, this is Ron Wolfe, the general manager, said, we don't want a distraction. Here's a guy that doesn't want to be here. So in that sense, we accommodated him. Oh, we allowed it. Yeah, if he didn't want to play, now he's not playing. That's great. He's busy. Yeah, he said, but I don't want to say anything negative about him. Oh, we allowed it. If he didn't want to play, now he's not playing. That's great. He's busy.

Yeah, he said, but I don't want to say anything negative about him. He played a role here. We're trying to compete and win football games, and he didn't want to be here. Now he's free to go somewhere else. But he's known as a huge asshole is the problem here. He only played one down in the last game he played with the Packers. Really? Yep.

Here he is. This is, um, he played five games that year, started four of them. So, uh, the problem with this is no one else really wants to sign him. And, uh, that is going to be the end of his NFL career. Done. Done. He's an asshole and nobody likes him. That's the problem.

It's tough, but when you're dealing with team sports how you are in the locker room doesn't matter when you're when you're 24 and you're and you're great yeah nobody cares because they need your production but when you're when you're 29 and there's another guy who's a free agent rookie who's 22 and you guys can kind of do the same job at that point you better be beloved in that fucking locker room or else your ass is getting cut the coaches have to go we can't cut that guy he's great for the young play like that's what you need otherwise you're out and uh he's not that guy he's an asshole and he's a 29 year old cornerback which a 29 year old cornerback with with that's done nothing he has no has nine career interceptions. Oh, my God.

And hasn't had one since 1990. Uh-oh. And he's not a real great tackler or anything like that. He's not a guy who does that. He's a wannabe shutdown corner who's not a shutdown corner. He's not doing it. Yeah. He talks shit and acts all wild like Dion,

but Dion's out there getting picks and shutting down a whole side of the field. He's getting cut by the Packers. And being called Toast. Toast is his nickname. So the next day, Bengals general manager Mike Brown said that he remains an admirer of Louis Billups' ability, but the Bengals have no plans to try to sign him at all. We admire his ability. Yeah, from afar. We have the same admiration for his life and him.

Yeah. We admire it from afar is what we do. We watch it through a window like a kid watching other kids play in the snow. He said, I would doubt that he would fit in here again. I don't disparage his ability. I thought he played well against us when we were in Green Bay, but it's probably the best that he pursue his career somewhere else. Yep. He's placed in plan B free agency. They said he was, this is great quote. He was unpopular

with Cincinnati fans and also with a significant number of Cincinnati players. Yeah, I would say they caught him when he complained publicly over losing his job. Yeah, anything you – if you make him upset, he'll go right to the media and talk shit about what's going on with your team. Who wants that there? While also criticizing the media and everybody else. What the fuck, dude? Weird. It's wild.

So, I mean, nobody wants a marginal talent that does that. That's the problem. You have to be great. So they said he was in Cincinnati Tuesday but not on a matter related to a possible signing. He had a grievance hearing over a claim for a week's pay in which he was docked for missing last year's game at Buffalo. And this Bengal suspended Billups for the Buffalo game after determining he injured a finger in a fight outside a Covington, Kentucky convenience store. Oh, boy. He wasn't arrested for it, but that's how he hurt himself.

He got in a fight at a fucking convenience store by the airport. Jesus, good Lord. He's a mess. That's just one of those little shitty gas stations. And he's fighting there? He's fighting there. It's literally a convenience store where you get in and get out. And he's in there long enough to get injured in a fight either just got have to get to the airport or just got off a

plane who wants to fight when you just got off a plane i want nothing to do with the stores no no and on the way there you want to build up good karma so you're not don't plunge from the sky yeah you shouldn't fight on the way there either i always see that in an airport like i try to be nice to the employees and all that kind of shit. Cause I'm like, you guys are really taking some fucking walking the karmic high wire. Yeah. Yeah.

It's going to be shit from people who are delayed or canceled or all kinds of reasons to not be leaving there. Well, also for, for these passengers to be complete assholes to people and then be like, I'm going to get on a plane and magically fly through the sky and I'm sure nothing bad will happen. I'm like, oh, you're. Well, I just shit on that old lady that sold me this National Enquirer. Yeah.

Yeah. I just yelled at a desk agent because somebody fucking somewhere else did something I didn't like. So December 17th, 1992. This is great. From the Stevens Point Journal. And I love the headline. Quote, Billups in trouble again. Just one more again.

Here it is. Police arrested former Green Bay Packers cornerback Louis Billups after a woman accused him of raping her. Oh, my. And threatening to show her husband a videotape of the rape unless she paid him $20,000. Her husband. He apparently, allegedly raped an Italian, not an Italian, a married woman. Yeah. Maybe she was Italian.

I don't know. Raped a. Is she going to be Italian? I don't know. I just almost came out that way. I was reading something else and that's how it works here. I'm always setting up the next thing. It's made in Italian.

Yeah. So he raped a married woman, videotapes it, and then blackmails her about it? Yeah. That's balls right there, boy. That is... What's the, like, I don't understand. Wow. I don't know the the angle there is it because she because she's married and this is like we cheated but you raped her yeah but i

will say i didn't i'll say you know that she wanted it and that's how she likes it i don't know what his plan was and then i need to know the angle also for her wouldn't she just go well i mean if you're gonna show my husband anyway i'll just go to the cops and tell them you fucking raped me and then tried to blackmail me with it too at the same time oh you've got it on tape that's terrific i'm calling the police that's what i mean wow that's this might be the dumbest thing i've ever heard in my life i'm gonna commit a horrible crime and put an irrefutable proof of it too. Get that. And then I'll use that to my advantage somehow. Imagine that.

You know, this is why we've never heard of this before because no one's ever been dumb enough to try this as a fucking criminal. I'll tell you what. If you don't show it to my husband, I'll give you five dollars. But if you show it to these police officers, I'll give you 20 grand. I'll give you 20 grand.

This is episode 388 so we've had a lot of dummies on this show we've had a lot of people doing a lot of dumb crime we've never had this before a crime in sports first everybody it rarely happens i'm gonna blackmail you about the crime i committed with the crime i committed like i think i can blackmail you now because you have proof of a crime you committed. Now I will turn the tables. You give me $20,000 or I'll tell the cops you have that tape. He's a fucking idiot.

He doesn't understand leverage at all here. What a dummy. And what are you doing raping anybody? Fuck is wrong with you? So now I don't believe a word he fucking says about that hotel rape. I haven't believed anything he said ever through this whole episode. To be honest here, he just likes to talk. So they say Billups and a 35-year-old man named Gregory Calloway of Orlando,

of course, a fucking Florida resident, were held Wednesday without bail on charges of sexual battery and extortion. Oh, my God. They both did it. Yeah. I don't know if he was maybe. Maybe he held the camera. Or he could have been a go-between on extortion.

So the sheriff's office has two previous reports in the last several months of other women who said they were drugged and raped by both these men. Wow. and raped by both these men. Several reports from several different women that these, that two assholes drugged and raped them. Those women declined to press charges at the time because it's 1992 and there's still a stigma there too. So, wow. That is disturbing.

What the fuck? They said that last month he joined 10 present and former Bengals players who have countersued a Washington woman who claimed that 20 players raped her. It was only 10, so they sued her. Wow. In March 1991, they talk about he served a 30-day sentence for waving a gun around. Holy shit. So these charges involve a complaint by a woman whose name, age, and residence were not made public at this time here.

I guess she was invited by the Callaway guy to have lunch with him at Billups' home in a very nice subdivision. So, hey, come to this really nice house and have, you know, he's a football player. He played for these teams. Here's a quote from the prosecutor. They befriended her at a local business and said the right things, and she thought she was going home for lunch. Nothing sexual. She said she felt strange after drinking a cocktail.

That feeling progressed to a point of no longer being in control of her faculties. Billups restricted her movement by laying on top of her on the couch and immobilizing her arms. Oh, God. Very nice. She said Billups removed her clothes and raped her while Calloway, who's an Orlando librarian, videotaped it. The librarian. The librarian videotaped. He likes to chronicle things and keep them all together.

The victim protested verbally during the offense. And this is all on tape. uh when the story appeared on television two more women phoned the sheriff's office to report similar ordeals with the same two men yeah this isn't something you do once they got a scheme they're doing here they said quote the phone has been ringing off the hook we believe there are additional victims that's the worst way. Oh, my God. Police have an audio tape in their possession of the November 30th incident that the two men allegedly gave to the woman in an attempt to extort money. Didn't give her the videotape. It said, here's an audio.

Here's the audio part of the tape so you know it's on there. And then she said, okay, and took that to the cops. Good move. Yeah. I love it. Here's you saying, don't rate me give me money now are you not you just you just gave her the means to extort you you fucking moron you get the tape and go sure as a matter of fact no i want it from you tables turn motherfucker

i'm going to give you proof that a rape exists. Now, give me money. What? Wow. So they approached her while she was putting gas in her car, by the way. Wow. This is after it happened. A few weeks later, Calloway popped up and threatened to extort her there at that point. The woman told police she was originally afraid to go to the cops because she feared the publicity would hurt her husband's business.

Oh, poor guy. Yeah, I guess apparently this Calloway walked up on her when she was pumping gas a couple weeks later and told her that he would send a copy of the tape to her husband if she didn't pay him $7,500. The next day, Calloway phoned the woman at her home and said Billups wanted $20,000. Now it's not $75,000. Now I raised it. I'm only going to get $3,750 if we split that. That's not enough. This is ridiculous.

Why are we bothering raping if it's not a fucking legitimate business here? Sub four grand? We're going to have to do this every month? No, no. No, I don't think so, man. When I rape, it's for the big bucks is what he says wow the woman telephoned authorities saying that the two men were outside her home and had left an extortion note on her car they just pushed it and pushed it and pushed it man jesus that's stalking too yeah the prosecutor said the assault can be heard

on the tape as well as threats warning the woman that the videotape would be sent to her family and husband if she did not pay this is insane this is the dumbest crime anyone's ever committed vicious brutal and dumb all at the same fucking time so they said that billups calloway and billups have been have given the cops different stories about their relationship with the women so they don't even they didn't even have their story straight wow this is they thought they were gonna get away with it this oh they thought it was this this was they'd done it before they thought this is foolproof this will never be foiled not only will they get away with the raping but let's try to get money out of them too yeah it's bad enough not bad enough that we've raped these people let's also try to rob them as well distort them yes wow uh that's remarkable so

december 18th 1982 the orlando sentinel quote more women say billups raped them more women damn it how'd you like to have that as your headline more women say whistman raped them wouldn't that be a terrible headline for you? Never say that again. Oh, my God, I hate that. That sounded like I was quoting some sort of, like, we did a focus group. More women say Wisman raped them. That's not good, right? Terrible.

More women and more rape in this Wisman. More raping. 20% more. Now with 20% more rape in this wisdom. More raping. 20% more. Now with 20% more rape. That's what it feels like. God, I hate it so much. Yeah, this guy deserves that, though. But that is bold print, big headline, man. Right in the Orlando Sentinel.

So bad. People just waking up in their Disneyland resort for the weekend are getting that paper. They're like, who's this? Oh, boy, some guy in the NFL has been raping the hell out of people. A newspaper on the doorstep of a hotel. Yeah, you open it and you go, shut up, kids. I want to read about this rapist. USA Today, this time with more rape.

With this time with more rape. Quote, at least a half dozen women. At least a half dozen women, at least a half dozen women came forward to accuse former pro football player Louis Phillips of drugging and raping them. Seminole County sheriff's officials said Phillips and a friend were arrested and charged with sexual battery and extortion. And we know that story. But according to sheriff's investigators, they uh they're talking about that that's the next one oh yeah yeah um the calloway guy the librarian told the woman as she left the house the next morning by the way this is the original woman here this uh quote i'm going to be your worst nightmare this is after a rape like i think i think you just did that actually you showed up after post i think

you're still yes this is amazing this is the most nightmare i've ever seen this is ball it's fuck man so more women came forward thursday after seeing news reports of the arrests all reported similar encounters with billups and calloway although the prosecution would not disclose the specific number of women or details of their complaints, no file charges have been filed in those cases, but they're being investigated here. They do end up being able to post $50,000 bail each and get out, though. They're doing that. The investigators searched Billups 6,352 square foot home. He's got a 6,000 square foot house? 6,000 plus square foot home. He's got a 6,000 square foot house?

6,000 plus square foot house. How do you afford that? How do you afford the taxes on that? I think you'd have a rape extortion business is what you fucking build afterwards. Sounds like it, yeah. Because I don't know how you pay the mortgage on that if you're not getting a million dollar, $950,000 a year from the NFL. That's expensive. a million dollar, $950,000 a year from the NFL.

That's expensive. They said they turned up several pieces of evidence consistent with the crimes that he was arrested on. Both. Yeah, probably drugs and that sort of thing. Videotapes. Wow. By the way, this arrest was the second this month. On December 3rd, he was charged with driving under the influence of alcohol.

And yeah, that incident apparently started when Billups tried to take a woman home from a bar and he was too drunk. So, wow. According to the arrest report, when he was arrested, he spat on and cursed. He spat on and cursed at a woman named Pattyty during an argument outside the red parrot bar why are you so mad at women lewis what happened it's wild then he was arrested when he tried to leave the scene and as police were questioning him he was shit-faced got in a fight with a woman the cop showed up and said what the fuck's going on he got mad ran away from them and got in his car drunk they know he's drunk because they were just talking to him, and they just went and pulled him over and arrested him.

He's so mad at women. What a fucking idiot. There's no evidence of why, but he fucking hates women. Oh, my God. This woman said Billups became enraged when she refused to let him take a friend of hers to his house for a party. So he was saying, you're cock-blocking. Found a girl I'm going to, yeah. But she was smart because this one had a radar for this, I think, here.

Patty said she had found the women in the bar's bathroom vomiting, sweating profusely, and moaning. He drugged them and then, yeah, didn't get them out of there in time before it kicked in. Before it hit them, right. She said something was very wrong with her and I wasn't going to let her go home with him. Yep, Billups had been buying the women drinks throughout the evening. Patty, this woman, said Billups' companion apologized and said,

We didn't mean to dose her. We didn't mean to drug your friend. Our bad. We didn't mean to dose her this hard. Yeah, and then he tried to drive away drunk in front of cops what is he the dumbest criminal we've ever had we usually play idiot or asshole he is both he's an idiotic asshole idiotic monster yeah fuck another woman contacted seminal sheriff's investigators alleging billups had attacked her during a tour of his house on October 31st.

The woman who did not press charges told investigators Billups took off her clothes and raped her, then threw her clothes at her and told her to leave. He also grabbed her purse, rifled through it, and took $50 from her. I shit you not. That sounds made up. That's real. Took $50. Didn't give her a $ took 50 bucks off of her

he fucking raped her threw her shit at her and then said thanks for my money get the fuck out of my what oh my god does he think there's the police don't exist like how many dude it's not like he has does he know that this is illegal that's what i mean it's not like he focused in on one woman that he knew and he's like i know she won't go to the cops because she's whatever and has some psychological. He's just like, I'll rape random people I just met and I'm sure they won't go to the cops because I'm Lewis Phillips. I wear sunglasses in the team picture, so I'm special. I've got a cougar. Wow. In March 1991, he bought his house. His house is 3290 Tala, T-A-L-A, Loop, in the exclusive Alacqua subdivision off Markham Woods Road.

It's assessed at $813,890 at the time. There's no way he can afford that. No. It has an elevator, three fireplaces, a whirlpool bath, a sauna, and a pool. Get the fuck out of here. What is he in that for? Exactly. pool bath a sauna and a pool get the fuck out of here he also you know exactly he also owns a house at 9233 bay hill road in orlando valued at uh 235 252 dollars um public records show that billups is having trouble paying debts and recently sold his 1985 lamborghini he had he had the mid-80s lambo yeah he was

here's my lamborghini and my mansion because i'm very special but you're not a you're not a big star that was the problem you've only made eight hundred thousand dollars like you're a second round draft pick and not a pro bowler not a yeah you're a mediocre cornerback this is not okay on october 23rd lawyers for american express centurion bank filed a suit seeking an unpaid balance of nine thousand nine hundred ten dollars and 25 cents on his optima card plus interest attorney fees and court costs the court file which included a scribbled note written last month said, quote, I, Lewis Billups, cannot pay American Express Centurion Bank. The reason is that on the day on or about the day of October 7th, 1992, I was fired from the Green Bay Packers, which is a funny way to put it. Makes it sound like he showed up late

too many times. Oh, my God. I was fired from the Green Bay Packers the green i was fired i am now in the process of trying to get on with another team i have no other means of employment or cash flow except for blackmailing women i rape he left that part out weird at this point in time i have no money in the bank i'm trying to sell my house and car to get some cash but until that happens i have no money thank you and please understand what understand american express does not understand they never understand no they do not understand no they'll come they'll come after you like you owe money to the fucking gambino family are you kidding me fuck man they'll just take your firstborn's arm we'll just take this right arm will you pay up did he james is he raping to try to pay american express i think this is his fucking he has some sort of rape pyramid scheme he's working on where if i rape you and then you tell other people 10

others about the rape and then they pay me money for more rapes, then eventually I'll be making $5 million a year. It'll be a little Bay American Express. Yeah, you get like 10 people in your rape downline, and then... Then all of a sudden, the Centurion is funded. Wow. So December 29th, 1992, they say video in Billups' car shows extortion attempt. Deputies found a extortion videotape in a car driven by lewis billups on the day he was arrested the tape is found during a search of his jaguar

you know and uh it supports the charges that billups and a friend tried to extort twenty thousand dollars from a woman um obviously here so they said the videotape shows a hooded man making extortion demands while a video plays on a large screen television next to him. He made a video like a terrorist video. Is it the, like the terrorist would be speaking in front of a beheading. Is he talking in front of a rape?

Yes, in front of a rape. This is the video that I'll send to your husband. Yeah. He is, he's out of his mind. He's rape ISIS. he said yeah i'll make more and also i'll make more evidence against me how much more evidence rather than one copy of the tape i'll make many and give them to people he's a fucking idiot this guy um yeah so they

said that the videotape was in his car um his lawyer gene stevenson wow this guy is about to quit he might be the silver-haired fucking middle-aged white man of the year award participant here on the scummies next week he said quote we never said there wasn't a videotape we'll just have what the hell does that mean we never said there wasn't a video tape. We never said there wasn't perfect amount of evidence. We never said that. We'll just have to wait and see what the evidence shows, what all the evidence shows. Unfortunately, when there's a tape of a rape, really most other evidence is irrelevant at that point. The crime is on tape.

There it is. We need to see the evidence of the rape on the rape tape wow um they said they recovered other items from his home including 72 adult videotapes he had 72 porns which is quite a haul in the 90s when you had to have like video cassette vhs tapes that's yeah when those had to show up to your house from adam and eve in a brown paper sack that's a lot yeah they didn't even have a website you had to go to the store you had to go to some creepy store magazine that you on the back of a video that you bought from a creepy store like there you couldn't just wow and also a video camera as well they got. So December 31st, 1992, Billups says, this is the Cincinnati Post, New Year's Eve, Billups, colon, women harassing me. Okay. What, the ones you raped or not? The other ones.

So many women. There's at least half a dozen. They're all raping me. Their husbands are pissed off. I got people's dads yelling at me. This is ridiculous. You're raping, trying to extort a few dozen women, and this is what you get? Trying to start a business here. Jesus. Wow. Oh, boy.

He said that he complains that women have been making harassing phone calls to his house. Oh, is that right? Yeah. women have been making harassing phone calls to his house oh is that right yeah one woman demanded three hundred dollars and another wanted to meet up with him for a good time i don't know what is happening right now at this somebody found out he fucks and she's into it yo this is the most bonkers fucking episode right now this is crazy i don't understand this crime still i don't get what he was thinking during this very brazen is what he is and i'm shocked that a chick with a rape fantasy called him yeah why not he's people calling me some want to fuck me some hate

me it's fucking wild here so he then okay, okay, after this, this is amazing. January 18th, 1993, Lewis Billups now is charged with making telephone calls in which he threatened Washington Bullets guard Rex Chapman. What? Yes. Why? Didn't know how Rex Chapman was going to come into this, but somehow Rex Chapman's involved in this fucking case. Why? What are they talking about

the chief of the criminal division in the u.s attorney's office in lexington lexington said the complaint alleges that billups promised to end chapman's career by fixing it so he'd never walk again oh shit did you rape him and he wouldn't pay you what's happening rex tell us what happened what the fuck man spill it rex this is bonkers this episode is this whole episode is a mad lib it's all shit how did he get rex involved if i said he's a fucking in trouble for threatening people over the phone what how many guesses would it take to get to rex chapman at that point honestly i'd need clues yeah a lot of them before you get to that right a lot a lot of clues before you get there wow holy shit so i mean like what the fuck do you do i'd love to know why he was involved with Rex at all.

He's not even an athlete at the moment. I don't even. Yeah, they didn't play in the same city. None of it makes sense. Not even in the same sport. That's what I mean. None of it matters. Yeah, I could see if it was some rivalry at the same time.

No. He played for what? Charlotte when he first came up before he went to Washington? Bullets. Charlotte, then the Bullets, and then fucking where else? And then Phoenix after that phoenix yeah was it was that the i don't know i thought he came he bounced all over the place he was everywhere yeah that's that's crazy he was in that dunk contest early on rex chapman because he could dunk there and then he won three point uh shootouts or yeah yeah he had the record for the most in rex was a he had heart he had heart as a player he was a good player he was on the suns the most in- Rex was a- He had heart. He had heart as a player. He was a good player.

He was on the Suns. Yeah. I liked him. He was a fucking good player on the Suns. I served his kids at Peter Piper Pizza, too. Really? And for a guy not very big, he fucking- Man, that guy really played his heart out.

He's 6'5". Yeah, he's not- But he doesn't look- He's not that big. No. Yeah. No. No.

6'5 isn't huge. He's not 6'9 or anything like that. And he's slender, too. He wasn't big. Yeah, he's an inch taller than me. Yeah. It's not 6'9 or anything like that. And he's slender, too. He wasn't big. Yeah, he's an inch taller than me. It's not like, oh, God, holy shit, big. That guy was dunking hard. Oh, fucking real hard.

I mean, he was in a dunk contest. I think he made it past the first round, as a matter of fact. I think he almost won. I don't know if he almost won, but he did pretty well. He was good, yeah. He made a showing. He did one of the under the basket and pop up and dunk on the other side things,

which was like a cool thing at the time. So Lewis has got problems now. What the fuck? It's really falling apart. I was just going to like chronicle everything he's done and kind of give an update, but I can't even put it all together. It's so bad.

He's raping people. He's extorting people. He's beating people up. He's so bad. He's raping people. He's extorting people. He's beating people up. He's driving drunk. He's threatening this one. He's calling Rex Chapman and trying to break his legs. I don't know what's going on. All of this while he's sitting in his 6,300 square foot house that he can't afford.

He's losing his fucking mind. How many times has he been hit in the head? Too many. Too many, yeah. So he's sitting there just fucking stewing. I think he's trying to figure out who he's gonna call next he's like who don't who else do i hate charles barkley fuck that guy ken griffey jr suck my dick hey griffey yeah hey griffey fuck you man i see out there playing center field talking bullshit why don't you come over and have a drink come over and have some drinks.

Oh, I make a nice cocktail. I'm going to make you an old-fashioned you'll never forget. Well, you will forget. You'll forget everything, actually. Bring Arnold Palmer. I'll make him one. Bring Arnold Palmer. So there he is.

He's sitting there when all of a sudden his paranoia is cut in half by a knock at the door. It's a knock at the door, and he opens it in a rage, obviously. Furious, yeah. Furious, looking to rape, extort, or threaten anyone in his doorway until he sees that it's Vince McMahon! Whatever the fuck he is of WWE now standing before him, and he says...

says. How is it you've come to arrive here? Oh my God, you're a dream. Let me tell you something. You've got it all, my friend. See, you have the ideas. People don't have ideas. I feel like you could, who thinks to rape for money? No one's ever done that before. Do you understand? Do you get where I'm coming from? If I put some, you're only 5'10", but if we pump you up, ooh, get your upper body strength, oh baby, it's gonna be good. It's the oldest profession, James. Oh, yeah.

Tell you what, here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna have you rape someone and we'll video it, okay? Because I know all the angles. I know all the angles and we'll get all the money for it. And poof, in a poof of 1099s and broken promises, he's gone. And Lewis is very excited. He thought he had a job again. And then it's dematerialized before his very eyes.

I can't believe this is real. The whole thing is fucking nuts. So January 27th, 1993, he's indicted again how is this not what was happening this wasn't top fucking front page news this whole because he wasn't in the league anymore right but it still should be espn sports center every day it's always like this little side story like oh this guy but he's not you know not that big of a guy at this point in time he's indicted by a federal grand jury for making threats against rex chapman so rex chapman is the one that brought it down yeah the indictment against a white man

he twice threatened uh called chapman's sister jenny to threaten Rex. He called his sister and said, I will fucking end your brother's career. Why? I don't know. This is insane. Wow. That is wild. So February 4th, 1993, the woman allegedly gang raped by the members of the Cincinnati Bengals. of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Now, a verdict upheld an agreement with the woman who claimed she was raped by Bengals players, was a relief to some. Basically, she wanted more money, and it was $30,000 settlements she made with the Bengals players, and now she can't sue for more money. She went to court to try to be able to sue for more money. Some Bengals players fear the taint will not go away. Listen to this. This is running back. the taint. They had no idea. Running back Eric Ball said this is not vindication for us. No,

it just says you don't have to pay more for your raping. Right. He said that he was one of the players accused of watching the alleged rape. He said, I'm disappointed folks were named that weren't involved at all. We've had to go through this entire ordeal. The damage has already been done. However, Icky Woods called it a victory. What? Icky.

Okay, I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Now I think you're guilty. Is this how he got that name? He actually, outside the courthouse. He did the icky shuffle and said, quote, this is the victory shuffle. I feel real good. Now I can get on with my life. Holy.

Are you out of your fucking mind? You pay. You had to pay a woman. Because what the fuck are you talking about? Don't dance after you do that. I only have to pay her 30 grand. Holy. That's a victory today.

What the fuck? I am absolutely blown away by this entire fucking thing here. David Shula, the new head coach, said it's hard to get a handle on how much of an effect it had on our team in 1991, 1992, and into 93. Not only the players, but the organization. This puts it to rest and we can move on. Let's put my bad seasons behind us. The last two seasons, we've been terrible. I think it was from stuff that was here before I was even the guy.

It was probably the rapes that I had no part of oh my god so apparently she had consensual sex with one player and then she claims was gang raped at the team hotel um she accepted thirty thousand dollars from a group of players this was negotiated by icky woods uh that's why it's a victory because he's the one that was at the middle of it uh later she said she did not understand that she signed a waiver and meant that she wouldn't get any more money icky woods said we had an agreement and she didn't want to abide by her agreement it's about a gang rape what are we are you taking moral judgments because she didn't want to fucking agree to your business decision when you what are talking about? She wants more money for, like, therapy and stuff.

Like, ridiculous. She wants to talk about it? Fuck that. He says he had no sexual contact with the woman, Icky. He said she tried to lie and manipulate to get more money. The jury saw through that and were happy with the verdict. So, yeah. What is it? Eric Ball said he never verdict. So, yeah. What is it?

Eric Ball said he never met this woman even. He said, I sympathize with the lady, but I had nothing to do with it. I don't believe this is going to end it. Folks are going to believe what they want to believe. So he watched? That's the accusation here. Icky was a watcher and so was this guy.

This guy said, I never even fucking met her. I wasn't even there. So they seem to not deny that 12 guys were there. This is a matter of denying that there was a rape, that there was a giant thing going on here. So March 17th, 1993, state to file sex charges against former athlete. Number one, state's going to file sex charges and former athlete. Both of those got to sting him real good. They plan to charge Louis Billups and his roommate with drugging and raping a woman.

So this is finally the full charges here. Wow. Sexual battery on an incapacitated person. Extortion. Conspiracy to commit extortion. Yikes. This is interesting. Yeah. Now, the Billups attorney, now a woman,

he got a woman attorney for this one. Lori Wheeler said she was shocked by the charges. Really? Yeah. Not what happened. She said, based on the information made available to me, I'm surprised they're bringing those charges. She then says she says the videotape, which the police confiscated will prove he's innocent. Huh? That would have been a bad extortion piece then probably. Um, so the videotape will show she was not under the influence of some mind altering drug and that she was a willing participant and that she even initiated some of the sexual contact.

This is what the attorney says. Um, also said that the charges, um, they said the, the prosecutor said that we wouldn't file charges if we didn't think we could prove it. They said the sexual battery charge usually usually a second degree felony has been upgraded to a first degree because the woman was incapacitated and they said more charges may be filed against both these fucking guys. fucking guys they said he also plans to have other women testify that they had similar experiences with mr billups yeah at least fucked up that's a that's a ploy of i believe of his lawyer to try to get the woman not to participate because absolutely if this was aimed to upset her and her husband uh saying she initiated some of the sexual contact will certainly cause a rift at that

fuck yeah that's fucked up. That's what she's trying to do. And they have over a half dozen women, they said, or, you know, fine to testify. They said that among the evidence gathered were two bottles of an unidentified yellow liquid detectives believe was a drug put into the victim's drink. And the state crime lab technicians were unable to identify the liquid what he got some new shit he got some new nfl shit this is like super roofies we got super roofies and like wow unbelievable uh also investigators did match handwriting on an extortion notes to samples provided by Calloway, the other defendant here.

Holy shit. So March 23rd, 1993. Here he's arrested for making interstate phone calls to threaten to injure Rex Chapman. Again, here he's bringing him down. Jesus Christ, man. He has to appear in federal court. They said March 18th from Orlando, he made calls to Jenny Chapman, Rex's sister, and threatened her brother and all of this. He said that Billups was, quote, going to fix it so Chapman would never walk again.

And the telephone calls were tape recorded by the FBI, which had been alerted by Ms. Chapman that Billups, who played for the Bengals and Packers, was charged with sexual battery. I love when they run down this fucking thing here. So, yeah. Anyway, March 26, 1993, he is denied bail. Oh. The federal magistrate refused bail for him just for the Rex Chapman thing. Hmm. That is fucking.

Did he play at Cincinnati or something? I don't know. Where did Rex play? Was he a Bearcat where did was he a bear cat that would make sense i guess i wonder if he played for cincinnati it may but still what the fuck is happening yeah why are you so worried about rex chapman fighting over a girl or something i don't know what's going on here gotta be so april 2nd federal grand jury indicts him. And maximum penalty here of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 for the Rex Chapman incident here. Wow, the Chapman thing is the most serious actual prison time you can get. Why is that? For threatening a shooting guard rather than raping people.

Holy shit. holy shit um a lawsuit filed in seattle against the cincinnati bangles seeking damages for the children of a woman who contends she was gang raped by the so the woman rather than suing herself she found a way around it and used the kid to sue the lawsuit contends the four children whose ages range from 6 to 17 have been deprived of the love, care, companionship, society, and guidance of their mother. So that's how they're doing that. June 12, 1993. Billups enters a plea of guilty to threats against Rex Chapman. Unbelievable.

This is the most ridiculous thing in the world here. Holy shit here. He could be sentenced up to five years. They denied a request to release billups so he could try to catch on with a professional football team during summer camps they're like we don't care about his football this is this is crazy what are you talking about um the u.s attorney said they are still afraid of mr billups and do not want him released rex and his sister here wow um he'll have a second charge against him dropped once he's sentenced here.

Billups had a romantic relationship with Jenny Chapman and twice called to warn her against seeing other people. Because of earlier threats, she had contacted the FBI, which started recording her calls, and now they got this call. Quote. Wow. This is what he said on the tape.

Now I'm telling you right now as God is my witness, I swear on my mother's life, telling you right now, God is my witness, my mother's life, if you ever speak to a guy, speak. Just say hi to a guy from Kentucky. I promise you that my boys will go see your brother and he'll never play basketball again. That's where he played. He played at Kentucky. Kentucky, yes.

That's exactly where. If you say hi to a guy from kentucky my friends will break your brother's legs what is that a crazy person is what that is um what a fucking lunatic june 17th, 1993. He is a fucking disaster, man. Wow. He's got so many problems. Why is he so mad at women? He's so possessive. Think about that. That's fucking insane.

He's just so fucking possessive, and I don't even know, man. He's a problem. His agent, Ed Sewell, said, quote, I'm sure you can question some of the things he's gotten into. That's an understatement. Football liquid, man. Yeah. How about that? Tell us that much. Football can be bigger than someone's life than some life situations on the football field. He was a hero bigger than life as he bumped heads with others he uh the real world challenged him though i would say um so july 7th 1993 here's from the philadelphia daily news billups targets continue to live in fear for their life that's nice their lives um uh yeah so he pleaded guilty to threatening rex

chapman and all that and uh jenny said you know, she's still, you know, absolutely still afraid of him. And, you know, Rex is also, she said. So, yeah, that's fucking insane, man. So, man, I don't even know what's going on here. This guy is a fucking mess. And the assistant U.S. attorney said they're still scared of this this guy they don't want to say anything that will tick him off jenny wants it to get it behind her and tracy scared the worst remember tracy the one with all the fucking surgeries he beat the shit out of she's still scared of him terrified she says so what the

fuck man is going on uh oh the beginning of that by the way you promised me you'd never talk to a guy from kentucky again or speak to a guy. Now I'm telling you right now, blah, blah, blah, if you say hi to a guy from Kentucky, I promise you John John, Marcus, and Too Short will go see your brother, and he'll never play basketball again. He's involved with street thugs now.

John John, Marcus, and Too Short. Too Short. I don't think the rapper Too Short, probably. I wouldn't think. I don't think the rapper too short. Probably. I wouldn't think. I don't think it's. I doubt it. So too short.

It's going to go see your brother. An hour later, he called again. And the first time he was in a Florida phone booth. Now he called from his home and it was 18th and Rex Chapman was. It was March 18th and Rex Chapman was going to be in Orlando with the Washington Bullets on April 20th. So the threat was repeated. He kept saying that my brother's knees were in my hands.

He's in the NBA now. Your brother's playing in the NBA, and I'm going to take his knees from him. I'm going to take his knees and his livelihood. July 15th, 1993, the headline is, Chapman shrugs off Billups threats. He has to act tough. He can't act like he's afraid of some 5'10 fucking guy. He said it was weird.

That's one thing. It's very weird and strange and all shit like that. I played basketball with Calbert Chaney. I'm not afraid of him. Yeah. Yeah, I know calbert cheney i know gilbert arenas i've met the man i know i know guys that know straight gangsters i'm not afraid of an ex nfl player he said i'm good this is rex chapman i'm good friends with boomer meaning

esiason and boomer told me the kind of guy billups is. He's crazy, but I don't think he's that crazy. I think he's that crazy. I think he'd rape you and videotape it, Rex. I really do. And then try to extort you with it. Yeah. And then call just randomly, just call somebody else up. Call Akeem Olajuwon and say if you don't. He said when she broke things off with him, he didn't want to leave her alone, is what Rex said.

And so, so yeah he was like yeah fuck him basically september 4th 1993 he is sentenced here uh he is going to be sentenced you sir may fuck off 12 months in prison and a ten thousand dollar fine for threatening rex chapman he's gonna do his time in a minimum security prison here he's already done time in jail so there we go time federal so October

23rd 1993 he receives probation here he pleads no contest to criminal conspiracy charges this is in the fucking drug rape extortion thing. What the fuck? That is fucking wild, man.

He was charged with all sorts of shit, but under the plea deal, he pleaded to the conspiracy charge and will serve three years of probation. We got to take rape more seriously. This is wild. Luckily, this was 30 years ago, so it is different now. That's unbelievable. seriously this is wild that's luckily this was 30 years ago so it is different now unbelievable he said that um his lawyer said because he believes it's in his best interest not an admission of guilt i wouldn't let the guy plead guilty then all right well then fuck you then go to trial you know he also pleads guilty to one count of reckless driving stemming from his drunk driving incident there and um yeah he made no comment after they asked him if he had any comment.

He said no. Wow. After the hearing, what is this, his lawyer, I believe, said the victim's story was shaky. Statements she made to law enforcement and in depositions could not be corroborated. They said Billups accepted the plea offer

to get on with his life. She said there was no rape. The videotape shows there was no rape. If anyone was raped, it was Lewis Billups accepted the plea offer to get on with his life she said there was no rape the videotape shows there was no rape if anyone was raped it was Lewis Billups what this motherfucking guy well you had to have you couldn't have a guy lawyer say that that's why he had to go get a woman lawyer you can never have a guy I mean that would look that looks terrible if it's some dipshit with a mustache saying it twice as bad. If anyone was raped. Wow. So March 10th, 1994, a federal appeals court upholds his sentence for making threats against Rex Chapman. He was trying to get his sentence lowered.

And yeah. So April 3rd, 1994, released from prison. Wow. Gets out. Okay. So April 6th, 1994, the federal appeals court upholds a $10,000 fine against him, which was also part of his sentence. He was fucking trying to get that thrown out. Now, April 9th, 1994.

Keep this in mind. April 3rd, gets out of prison april 6th loses an appeal april 9th 1994 okay he's in orlando florida all right uh he is driving westbound at excessive speeds on interstate 4 in orlando when he tries to avoid another vehicle that it was changing lanes. He's got a passenger as well named Danny Green. Billups loses control of the vehicle. His car does a clockwise spin, hitting a road sign and a guardrail later on, and it tumbles over. So Danny Green, his passenger, is pronounced dead at the scene oh jesus

he was driving a hundred miles an hour by the way uh he had just lost his home by the way yeah he lost his home before he went to prison they finally took that away from him this is one o'clock in the morning 100 miles an hour is danny a male or a female a man it's a male 30 years old uh from kasimi he's driving an 87 corvette convertible it's his old car uh he crashed and he tried to avoid the other car like we said hit a guardrail about 50 feet from the metal guardrail cut into the passenger compartment and passed through the passenger window holy 50 feet of the metal guard rail came through the car oh shit all the way through danny through danny um yes uh which is crazy danny dies on the scene obviously here uh but let's see here uh they get billups i believe here uh they get him to the hospital where he dies also. What?

Dead. 100 miles an hour, fucking crunched his Corvette dead. Zip. Wow. Dead. That quick. Boom. All of that craziness that fucking fast. Ended in a, wow, the noise must have been horrific.

That is fucking crazy. The assistant estate attorney, Stuart Stone, who prosecuted him in one of the cases, said he was not surprised when he learned about the accident. Yeah. He said he had that fast and loose lifestyle. I guess he tried to catch up with lost time and tried to catch up too fast. That's fucking deep. I'm certainly not happy. He doesn't deserve that.

But I'm not surprised. Holy shit. So I guess he doesn't i mean i he if okay here's if he raped all of those women he what he deserves is to have been in that passenger seat and to be unzipped by 54 feet of guardrail yeah you can't you can't say he didn't deserve it if all of that is true fuck he deserves every second it deserves it all jesus christ man um wow uh bengals general manager mike brown said lewis was a fine player there's no question about that sometimes in his private life things didn't go quite as well for him

that's one way to put it wow christ holy shit is that silver things didn't go quite as well for him numerous a dozen rape charges and threatening rex chapman oj simpson was a fine running back uh decent actor sometimes he had a contentious relationship with his wife it's funny you say decent actor i just think of the zucker brothers the airplane guys the guys who wrote and directed Airplane and Naked Gun. This line, if you haven't heard it before, is the best line ever. He said, O.J.'s acting is a lot like his murdering. He gets away with it, but you don't really believe him. It's the greatest, quickest joke I've ever heard about O.J.

Much like his murdering. Much like his murdering. You don't really believe him.. You don't really believe him. But you don't really believe him. Wow. He said, yet the people on the team who knew him also appreciated him as a friend. Yeah. Okay.

Cornerback Rod Jones, he said, he tells the Cincinnati Inquirer, we got along fine. I knew he had problems off the field, but he never had any problems with other players. Jesus Christ. He had problems with another basketball player. Yeah, I would say so. Here is a weird editorial from a woman named Kimberly in Orlando. Okay. I met Lewis Phillips, the former NFL defensive back who died Saturday in an automobile crash two years ago through my work.

He was purchasing furniture from my store. Lewis and I spent time together then, and I knew the kind of lifestyle he was living. We dated for a while, although we eventually went our separate ways. We stayed in touch. At that time in Lewis's life, he may very well have been considered to be living in the fast lane. Yeah, 100 on the I-4. Probably the same as others in his magnitude of life, but certainly not more. He was having a good time or so he thought.

He never intentionally hurt anyone. Come on. The Louis Billups I knew from day one was very loving and considerate of others. His family meant more to him than anything in this world, except raping. Some of the things that happened to him may have been because of something he did, but some were not. He went to prison

for one of those things. Did someone else call and say that? Whatever the reason was, he spent time away from his family and friends. During that time, he realized he had made some mistakes and associated with the wrong people, but he had changed and he wanted everyone to know. He was good now.

He's not going to rape anymore, he promised. No, he was a new person, a new person. Within days of his return in January, he phoned me. From that day until the day he lost his life or the day his life was taken on April 9th, we spent most of our time together. I asked him out of all the people you could have called, why me? His response was, Kim, you represent a

completely different life from where I came from two years ago. Two years ago, I offered you a highly socialized life, parties, dancing, nightclubs. You walked away from that. Now you're here and you've been there for me after all this has happened to see the person i really am inside and not what i can give you materialistically which by the way ain't shit because i don't have a fucking job and you know that because at your job at levitt's where i got declined for a credit card for a couch where i couldn't get a store credit card for not even a high-end couch yeah um Yeah. He said, I am really inside. I'm not near materialistically.

The life I lived was not the life I was raised with or what I wanted out of a life. So you see, she says, I knew Lewis had changed. I knew he had changed. I knew him then. And I know there was a new Lewis Phillips.

I only wish the rest of the world could have known him on his second chance because everyone deserves a second chance and his had only just begun. He was out of prison for six days and he was already driving a hundred miles an hour on at fucking one o'clock in the morning. And am I to believe he was likely very sober?

Oh, like as a fucking nun. So holy shit, he is buried here at the Gotha Orange County, Florida. Really? Gotha Woodlawn Memorial Park in Gotha Orange County, Florida. If you want to go take a look at him, he's got a little football guy on his. Really? Yeah, check it out.

I'll show you the thing here. What is this? A little football guy. What the fuck is that? A little doughy, bad representation of a football guy. A couple of football on a helmet there. Football on a helmet. And then it says under it, Solo.

Louis K. Billups, Solo. I don't know if he wasn't married and didn't have kids or whatever. Buried alone? Buried alone. Solo. Wow. Man. So, by the way, since there was so much going on, it was hot and heavy.

I mean, honestly, he's all dead and everything. I guess you could kind of feel bad for him, but not nearly as bad. Holy. As you could feel for these people. Louis Billups, student at South Dakota State University here. Keep it clean. Keep it clean. He's in Trenton, New Jersey.

And there's that guy and then a Reverend Louis Billups from a newspaper in 1949 that died that we found here. So there's him. Yeah, I still feel bad for him. This guy is still searching his name after he's dead. Yeah, it's still disparaging. It just came up. And if not to, if you can't get enough of Louis Billups here, you can get a 1991 Topps Louis Billups card here. He's probably taped above his locker, for Christ's sake. I'm sure, 99 cents for that one.

A Louis Billups nine-card lot for $1.49. Those are all of them that were above the locker. For all of them. And then finally, from memorabilia.expert, a 1980s Louis Billups game-worn Bengals jersey. What? $182. Not bad.

If I could find that again, we might need that for the studio. That is awesome. Because we got L.A. Mike's jersey. I got that. I got a signed L.A. Mike Richardson jersey. It was $60. I went to order the $100 one we had, and there was one for $60 that was the exact same one. I was like, great, done. Signed.

Signed, and deal, and delivered, and done. By a murderer. By a murderer. Unbelievable. Allegedly. There you go, everybody. That is Lewis Billups and quite the fucking tale, let's be honest here. That was a lot.

That is a classic crime and sports episode, I would say right there. He put a guardrail through his friend. Yeah, through his friend. 50 yards of it. Or 50 feet of it. Good God. There was not a lot of sports there at all and a whole lot of fuckery. Yeah. My God. It's a terrible man, it seems like.

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Really? Did you know that? Awesome. Love Mike Kekich. Killer. Fucking rock on. Hello, Mike Kekich. Killer. Fucking rock on. Hello, Mike Kekich. We love you back.

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Oh, good for you, Wolfie. Also, Nguyen Manacown, I think, and her husband, Thepolac. Oh. Those don't sound like real words. I don't think you may. Yeah, I think you pronounced those wrong, man. I'm sure I destroyed those, but those are people. Those are the roundabout letters and the sounds they make.

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