Crime in Sports - #39 - The Conscience Of A Killer - The Scariness of Lee Murray

Episode Date: October 25, 2016

This week, we are up to our eyes in crime, mayhem, and overall craziness. Our subject was a fighter, in every way possible. From the UFC, to being stabbed in bar brawls. He was a troubled kid, turned major underworld figure, with a record that ranges from simple loitering, to extreme violence, to masterminding the largest crime of its kind, in the history of the world. A character, a lunatic, and generally one of the most dangerous people that we've ever encountered in the Crime In Sports world. Buckle up, because this one is jam packed!Hop out of the octagon, gather up your heist crew, and beat up 9 people at time with "Lightning" Lee Murray!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: [e-mail] on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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strange, dark, and mysterious stories on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome back to Crime and Sports. It's been so long. This is great. Yay. Yay. Traditional. Yay! I'm so excited. welcome back to crime and sports it's been so long this is great yay yeah traditional there you go i'm so excited my name is james petrogallo i'm here with my giggling co-host i'm jimmy there you go i shot that out you almost forgot it's been a week and a half since we've recorded we had one kind of stored we were kind of had some scheduled conflicts so we are so psyched thank you so much for joining us new listeners you've picked the gem of blot i gotta tell you welcome back

and welcome new people wow do we have a story tonight i say it every week and i say i say it every week every week but honestly this is this this has classic potential here. This man, to describe him in a math equation, is Evangelus Goossus plus Tommy Morrison divided by Murph the Surf, and you have this man. I love this so much. That's what this guy is. I love when you do math equations

to break down somebody's character flaws. That's what it is, man. He's a psychopath. So good. Epic proportions. Before we get into that, just want to thank everybody for the iTunes reviews this week. Everybody, thank you so much. That means the world to us. Please,

if you haven't done that yet or if you're a new listener, give us a break here. Get on, sign in. It takes 30 seconds. Give us five stars. Tell us your following instructions, whatever inside jargon you want to throw around from the show. Whatever you want to do, but thank thank you we really appreciate that so so much yeah and uh wow let's get down to business because jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy this guy whoa he's a trip man let's get right into it he is a fighter by by nature and by trade his name is is Lee Brahim Murray Lamrani.

Jesus. Lee Murray, we're going to call him. That's a lot of names. Lee Murray is what he goes by. He's an MMA fighter and had one UFC fight, actually. Just one. Just one, and they wanted to have more. They wanted him for more, and he wanted to have more.

Oh, they wanted it. But there was a problem. They were not going to get it. There's several problems with this man, we'll just say. He's a loon. It all started on November 12, 1977. Oh. When he's born in Greenwich, London, England.

Really? Yes, he's born. He's an MMA fighter from England. He's an English fella. And that's kind of the funny thing, too. There's an interesting confrontation he has later on. It's like hey you got his ass kicked by an english mma guy this guy's no joke there's certain guys that we do most of the guys we do are either harmless or they're not harmless to the general public but

they're not going to come kill us you know what i mean or they're dead or they're in prison for life or right you know like i try to we're pretty safe i try to do dead fighters usually you know what I mean? Or they're dead, or they're in prison for life. Right. You know, like, I try to do... We're pretty safe. I try to do dead fighters, usually. You know what I mean? Your Monzones, your Tommy Morrisons. People who are infirmed or dead. Ayala.

Guys who can't hurt us, basically. Where our children's lives, their safety and their life is not at stake. Every time I see an open Jeep with a biker-looking guy in it, I think it's Krotoru. So I'm frightened there. There's so many. This man, I'm scared of this man ever finding out about this and listening to it. Because it's not going to end well for us. The thing is that lunatics often Google themselves.

They do. They look for themselves. And if we make this thing successful, it's already successful enough for him to find us. It's going to happen. He could find us. I can't wait. I'm looking forward to it. He's born to a British mother and a Moroccan father.

His father is from Morocco. His mother is from England. What was his birth given name? Last name? Ibrahim? It's Lee Brahim Murray Lamrani. Lamrani. It's a hyphenated Murray Lamrani.

And Brahim is his first middle name. I don't know what that is. It's like they gave him a Moroccan name and a British name. It's like they gave him one of each or something. I don't know how people name. That's weird. It's an interesting deal. But he just goes by Lee Murray.

He doesn't want to confuse things. He skips all that bullshit. Skips all that bullshit. Doesn't want to confuse things. Grows up in London with his mother and a little sister. His father worked. His father wasn't around until he was seven. His father, which is a good thing for him. This is another one of these perennial, the perennial question that we ask. Is it better for the father to stick around and beat the holy shit out of everyone in the house or just leave when they're two and abandon the family

to live with the rats or something. Which is worse? We're not sure, but in this case, he got a touch of both, lucky guy. All right. So his father is working in the Canary Islands and all around, he's a dishwasher. I don't know why he couldn't wash dishes.

He's a traveling dishwasher? In the UK. They must have really, really good salaries with Canary Island dishwashers. They got better soap there. They got excellent soap. It's harsher. They have a really hard water.

You need a special kind of hand. They got a union and all that shit. Only the Moroccan hand. They're like dish sherpas of the Canary Islands. Only the Moroccan hand. Only the sherpas can... Only their lungs can take Everest. It's the same thing with Moroccan dishwashing hands sorry Morocco we're they don't wrinkle we'll be offending the UK and Morocco we

apologize UK you know we love you and fuck off you love that shit and we love you so it's all good so his father ends up moving back with them to England at age seven for Lee which like I said but we're gonna find out what's worse. We got a little of both. I think it was better off without him. I think peppering both ends is going to shape him perfectly for us. For us? He makes a hell of a tale. So thanks, Lee's

father, I guess you could say, in a horrible, horrible, shitty way. That makes me feel awful for saying it, but we wouldn't be laughing right now without this. We wouldn't be laughing for the next hour and a half if it wasn't for his father. A friend of Lee's named, and he's going to come up for a long time, and I love his name, Paul the Enforcer Allen. Oh, boy.

Some guy's named the Enforcer. He's going to... I want that to be on his birthday. That's scary. I have to make an Arn Anderson reference for any any wrestling fans out there but yeah paul the enforcer alan he says this of lee's father quote he was an absolute lunatic of a man he used to beat the living daylights out of lee as a child that's a man whose nickname is the enforcer and he said that guy's that guy's crazy shit i'm not gonna enforce him i will not enforce

that man he's crazy so early on this is a neighbor so he's beating him you know senseless as he as he grows larger yeah finally a neighbor described when lee had had enough of his father apparently there was a neighbor there and he later on was asked and he said the father quote actually went and hit lee and lee snapped just turned around and knocked his dad clean out once he realized he could take down a big man like that, I think that's what changed Lee into the man he is now. A thug. Yes. And he is a thug.

And he's fearless. The first time you want to fight, though. This is the most fearless guy. The first time you want to fight, though, there's something like you size that person up and you know what you're up against and what you can take. It flipped a switch, apparently, for him. And this is like, this guy isn't, this isn't like, you know, Tommy Morrison knocking college students off a bar stool and looking at him when he's a movie star.

This isn't that. This guy fights anybody and everybody. Well, yeah, he just knocked out the guy. He later on says, like, you know, people call me a bully, but I'm not a bully. A bully goes after easy targets. I go after all the targets. So if I happen to get an easy one in there once in a while, fine. But I just, sorry, I cast a wide net, basically.

I don't know what to tell you. It's not my fault. I cast a wide ass-kicking net. That's what it is. So the father eventually moves out because he said he feared that if he stayed lee and hey him and lee would kill each other basically one of them was going to end up dead because now they're both big men fighting in a house you can't have that that's not gonna crazy it's not gonna last long and the father's a drunk too which isn't gonna help either

that lets you know that this boy is already fucked up. Oh, he's fucked up big time. And his surroundings don't help. He ends up, they move, and he ends up growing up in the Barnfield Projects. This is in South London, South End London. And this is a shit area, apparently. Like Gavin Grant, we covered him. This is a lousy area. And from what all these people are interviewed, this isn't quaint cobblestone England for all you U.S. Gas lamps and shit yeah this is not

people tipping their caps to each other and spinning a you know spinning a pocket watch around that's not what this is this is some thug shit a black cane with a white tip on the end and they're spinning it saying good day picture baltimore with a with a proper accent and that's what you got here a posh baltimore that's not so fucking posh it's like the wire with x if they let everyone in the wire who had a british accent use them that's what it would be like so he starts running his mid-1990s here he's in his teen year starts running with a local street gang now i have to say something the local street gang they're called they call themselves the barney boys uh i going to guess something else because it wasn't going to be

any dumber than that. The Barney Boys. Let me give you a word of advice, British people, British gangsters. If you're out there and you're running around committing crimes in Britain, first of all, stop. But if you're not going to stop, do this for me. Name your gang something better.

You guys, when you end up getting arrested as you're all going to get arrested someday, and it's going to be in the paper, and you guys are going to have a piss-poor gang name like the Barney Boys, which is like, it's like gang names that we had in like the 1870s in the U.S., you know what I mean? Like the, you know, the Brown Derby Gang. That's what they have shit like that. You know, we have like the, you know, the decapitating fucking blood drainers, and they're

like, we're the Barney Boys. Doesn't sound as... Pick a tough name. Motorcycle gangs here are terrifying names. They're terrifying. Like Hell's Angels and the Mongols. That scares the fuck out of me. That's scary.

The Barney Boys sounds like... Not so much... No. We've got a... Listen, English folks, we have a television show here for children called Barney and Friends, and it's a big purple dinosaur

that loves to hug people. It sounds like the most they do is, like, you know, steal an apple from the fruit stand on the corner once in a while. Hey, I got an apple. And he's like, hey, good job. I got three nickels out of that guy's pocket, see? Hey, all right.

Yeah, they talk like that. Even though they're British, they still talk like that. Yeah, see? I got three nickels, huh, see? So Murray is really, really, really into American gangsters. He is obsessed with the whole American gangster culture. He reads every book

he can get his hands on on American gangsters. Especially John Gotti. John Gotti's his hero. He fucking loves John Gotti. I grew up in New York watching all the trials. Watching the news and it was a big deal and he would have the trial and he'd get off

and we were like, this fucking Italian. Teflon Don right stop messing with that nice gentleman that's what i mean he's nice he throws parties for the neighborhood it's fine he's dressed nice he's his hair's in place leave him alone that's what it was spaghetti and chicken parm that's all he drives a nice car leave him alone so it's he loved john god he's a big uh big fan of his and every other gangster. He's known as the most badass guy with his hands in the whole area. In this whole shithole area.

Lee Murray is the one. He's the one you don't want to fight. And he's not a huge guy. When he grows up, he's 6'3", 185. So he's basically an inch shorter than me and fucking five pounds lighter. So yeah, he's like me, me basically he's a lanky he's a wiry fuck he's a wow that can throw hands did he hit like a bastard uh friends tell reporters about a time this is a story that keeps coming up where he single-handedly fought off nine

bouncers at a london disco jesus kind of for fun because he liked fighting and they were there and wanting to fight with him so he's like great, I get to fight nine guys now. The one friend said, quote, left him sleeping in the doorway like babies. Wow. So, I mean, that's the type of dude we're dealing with here. This is not a stable or a normal individual. How many guys have you fought at once before? Not nine.

Not nine. I'll tell you that much. That's where I was going with that. Not nine. That is a lot of fucking people. Especially, they're bouncers. You have an option to leave and not have to fight nine guys. He said, I'm going to stay and fight nine guys.

You don't even have to fight one. Their whole job is just to get you to leave. That's it. If you leave, they probably won't fight you. They're not going to throw hands. But nine of you. He tells each and every one of them to put up their dick beaters and let's throw down. And he wants to actually fight nine guys. Like a goddamn bruce lee movie that's bizarre punching he begins

fighting on the streets basically these are they start having unorganized like you'd have a you know a wiffle ball game in your neighborhood they would have street like kimbo slice they would yeah that's what they did and his friend called it uh MMA on the streets, was what he called it. And this guy would referee the fights, one of his buddies here. And he said, quote, I never saw Lee lose. I'm sure he didn't. He's just a bad motherfucker. Because there's only one fucking person in that ring.

It's not 10. It's not 9, yeah. And so Mark Epstein is his... I mean, 9, fuck 9. We know he can beat 9. We know he can beat 9. It's not 11. One in the street who's not even trained for anything.

It's over. He's just a street guy. So there's a guy named Mark Epstein. Now, he's the leader of the gang that he's running with at this point. And he's a big guy. He's the guy who would referee the street fights. Epstein's the leader of the Barney Boys. He's the leader, I guess, the leader of the Barney Boys.

It's not a glorious title, but whatever. We'll let him roll with it. But he said about Murray, quote, this is about him and the gang, quote, Lee was one of the younger lot the youngers we called them he was a he was a feared guy you know he's not someone you take lightly at all i mean there was plenty of gunplay you know drugs and stuff i mean he's his own guy when you get uh when you get start getting to a certain level it's day it's a dangerous game you play so there's a lot of gunplay gun Gunplay and all sorts of shit. Yeah, this is some serious shit.

They're in for, Epstein ends up saying later that he shot a guy once over 200 kilos of coke. Epstein did. So this is the kind of, they're dealing in large scale drug dealing here. Violence and these are bad dudes, basically. This is before he got into MMA.

We haven't even gotten to sports at all yet. He's already a lot of it here. He's already in crime. No, he's in crime from day one and will be in crime until the last moment that we go off the air here. I'm telling you. 95-ish he spends time in, or 93-4, he spends time in a juvenile detention center for drugs. At 16 years old. Yeah, he had a couple of possession things and I think a sale attempted sale

or some shit and he ended up but there's records it's a juvenile thing so we can't find out exactly but his friend said he went he definitely did time

in an attention center he did like six months at 16 years old he's already in jail for drugs that's the type of yeah and that's

and they said he was slick too Epstein kept saying later on 1997 Epstein goes to jail for selling heroin and crack like large scale Epstein and his later on in 1997, Epstein goes to jail for selling heroin and crack. What? Large scale, Epstein

and his buddy. And most of the gang went down except for Epstein and except for Murray. And Epstein was like, man he's slick. He was like the only guy who got through that mess. I don't know how he got through it but hey, good for him basically. He told the cops look, there's only two of you in here and I can fight nine guys. I can fight nine of you.

You don't have guns over here. No. Like at the ready. You guys have billy clubs and electronic devices. I love that. Just let me out. I will take that from you and knock you over the head with it. Leave you sleeping in hallways like babies.

Like babies. I love that quote. That's awesome. There's so many more quotes about him beating people and fighting people. He fights so much, this guy. I want to meet him. You don't want to meet him. No, I don't want to meet him.

He seems like, well, you know what? You'd want to meet him now. You're not going to want to meet him you don't want to no I don't want to meet him he seems like well you know what you'd want to meet him now you're not going to want to meet him once this goes out right now he's super interesting to me

right now he's very interesting you're going to want to hear about him and possibly talk to him but use an alias just in case because he will kill

both of us Tony Stark he will kill both of us at the same time this fucking guy so Lee assumes one of the leadership roles in the gang when Epstein goes away

because he was kind of the big man and they needed some people to step in for him. Lee steps in here. Now he's running with the gang at this point, doing dick basically. Now he has a child here. On Christmas Eve 1998, December 24th, 1998, Lee's girlfriend, Siobhan, Siobhan, Siobhan, whatever, Siobhan, gives birth to their first child. It's a daughter named Lily Jane.

He's 21 years old. He's 21. He's a drug runner and a father. And a bad man. And he's out fighting and getting shot at probably and everything else, and he's out there having fun. Yeah, there's gunplay. There's gunplay. So, 99, he tries to sort, well, he doesn't try to clean it up,

but he tries to take another path. I wouldn't say he diverts his path. He just kind of takes his drugs, puts them on his back, and goes down sort of an alternate route for a minute here. Maybe he's thinking about his baby. That's the thing. And I think he realizes, I'm a good fighter. Maybe I can do something with this besides. Because also, too, you're seeing your friends go to prison.

Epstein went away for three years for that drug bid. That's a tough thing when you're 21 years old. Yeah, and you just had a baby, especially. Maybe you don't want to go to prison. Epstein went away for three years for that drug bid. That's a tough thing when you're 21 years old. Yeah, and you just had a baby, especially. Maybe you don't want to go to prison there. But he continues drug dealing for this whole time. Because that's what's paying the bills. In 1999, he starts going to an MMA gym there called London Shoot Fighters. The owner, Alex Dimitriadis, said when Lee came in, he said about him, quote,

he was a little demonic looking. That was his quote about him. He said that Lee had broken every finger in both his hands at least once, so his knuckles were completely calcified and rock hard. Said, quote, everything Lee touched broke. So basically, if he fucking hit you, you were going to be hurt. He's King Midas of breaking things. He's just going to break shit.

King Midas of breaking shit. Yeah, exactly. That's what he is. The opposite. Yeah. So he keeps doing this. He makes his fighting debut, his MMA debut in England.

And this is their fighting in beer halls. So this is like... This is grimy. This is grimy. This is like if you've seen No Holds Barred before they put it on television

and they went to the bar and there was like, you know, Zeus throwing old wrestlers around. That's what this is basically. Jesus. Except in England so they have better accents. That's all it is.

They really do. Better accents. I love that accent so much. And it's funny. He's got such hard bones you'd imagine because the lack of calcium over there

as we discussed with Grant. We know you get calcium first floor or second floor. Right. We get it. Still. It's still funny.

Still. It's funny. Eat your fucking cheese guys. Let's go. It's not funny to you because it first floor or second floor. Right. We get it. Still. It's still funny. Still. It's funny. Eat your fucking cheese, guys. Let's go. It's not funny to you because it's about you. Yeah. But God damn it, it's funny to us. Have some feta.

Have some, just something. Something. A little mozzarella. So it's May 5th, 1999, he makes his debut. He knocks out Rob Hudson, who I couldn't find out anything about this guy. There's no link to him because he's a nobody. Weird. But knocks the shit out of this guy in the first round pretty quickly with punches.

He beats the piss out of him. With his calcium clubs. With his calcium clubs. He's hitting him. Yeah, just cheese hands coming at you. So he becomes a hit in the early days of his fighting with the beer hall people where all the fights take place. Because he's a crazy son of a bitch and they can tell he's crazy and they can tell he's a badass.

He looks demonic. Yeah, and the people take to him. Have you ever described anybody as he looked a little demonic? A little demonic looking. Especially a fight trainer because they're not one to be all, you know, they're not going to say anything. That guy wasn't so tough. He looked a little demonic, this guy.

I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie. He looked a little demonic. I was kind of frightened of him. In a few words, tell me about him. Demonic. That's it.

I didn't even want to train him, but I was frightened to say no, so I just did it. I was afraid he'd kill me. I just did it. So he would wear, outside the ring,

because he's drug dealing and all this shit, he would wear like fancy silk shirts and mink coats all the time. Very John Gotti. He would be,

yeah, he was very, very, very flashy. We'll get into his flash later on. so he starts to get a little press attention for that and he also gets some attention from the people hanging around places because they don't think he's that tough because of the way he dresses oh god they question they're calling him like a fairy and shit demetriatus the trainer loafers he's a little light. Yeah, that's what they thought. They thought wrong. Uh-oh.

We're talking about the stalagmite. Demetriatus said of him, quote, he got in fights with strangers because they saw the way he dressed and thought he was a pushover. They should have looked at the cuts on his face. That's what I'm looking at. This dude is battle scarred. It must have been a dark bar.

England, you guys got to stop judging by a shirt. Stop that. I would say get less drunk, too, would be a thing. Because if you can't see, if you have to hold one hand over one eye to see scars on this guy's face to go, wow, he fights a lot. Those hands look like rocks. You don't see the three-inch dash over his eyebrow? So here's a little anecdote about his fighting. On February 28, 2000, he is... Now, this is the night before he has a fight.

The night before his second professional fight, he goes out to a pub to watch a boxing match. It's Prince Nassim Hamed. I don't know if you remember him. He's a little guy. I think he fought at like 119. He was a little guy like that. He was a champ for a while.

Joe Featherweight? Very exciting little fighter. He'd do like a flip into the ring, like over the ropes. And he was a champ for a while featherweight very exciting little fighter he'd do like a flip into the ring like over the ropes over the ropes and he was really like you know he would hold his hands down he was flashy and eventually he got his ass kicked but he was a really nasty quick son of a bitch for a while and he was a british fellow also and so they would apparently go support the home team here and he goes to the pub to watch the fight that night apparently another bar patron is blocking his view and so they have a little exchange a few words this guy has no idea who this is a lesson to you out there people who like and i'm serious if you guys because i'm sure we have a few you know some sports guys that listen to us like guys that like to go out and

have a few beers watch who you fucking mouth off to. Because you don't know. You see some guy who's a thin guy. He doesn't look that like shit. He's got a fur coat on, a big fucking coat and a silk shirt. Darren Sproles is 5'7". I'll bet he could kick the fuck out of me. He's thick though. This guy, you'd look at him and go,

who's this skinny shit in a silk shirt and a fur coat? I'm not going to blah, blah, blah. And then he knocks you silly. I've seen plenty of guys that are 5'7", that are all swole, and in your head you just go, who does this little douche think he is? This guy is clearly overcompensating. They think this guy is skinny

and someone whose bar stool you can take, apparently. And they tried to and it didn't work out. They argued over a seat. The guy said it was his seat. Murray said, oh no, no, I was sitting there, and they had a little argument. So Murray knocked him out with one punch. I love it.

So man's friend comes over, knocks him out, too. Next thing you know, bartender comes over to the bar. Murray said, I'm tired of using my hands right now. I'm going to start with my knees. And grabbed the bartender and just knee- Stop signed him. Just knee-smashed the shit out of him. Just apparently knee-lifted him.

Knocked him out too. Yeah, basically just cleared any... Probably stood there and said, anybody else, I'm sure? Anybody else in the TGI Fridays want a piece? I know that I could take nine. So where are the other six? That's three down, so nine more.

Bring it. So he hurts his left hand in this fight, though. Hits a guy pretty square. Hurts his left hand. Chipped off some stalagmite apparently so when he wakes up march 1st 2000 the next morning he can't close his hand his hand is completely fucked and he's got to fight that day so that's not great a friend and fighter a friend of his and a four other mma fighter named dexter casey saw it and told him

dude that's broken go to the hospital you're hospital. You're not going to fight tonight. He said, I'm fine, taped up the hand, and went and fought. Wow. Don't worry about it. After a little scraping in the beginning, just started assaulting the shit out of him with right hands and ended up submitting the guy in 56 seconds. So 56 seconds, Mike Tomlinson goes down. So everybody probably just assumes he broke his hand in that fight.

They don't even, they didn't know. He just beat this guy so silly in a minute that he didn't need a left hand, basically. This guy was a tomato can and he had his way with him. So now he's 2-0. Now on this fight, we have our first in their own words. Fantastic. In their own words from Lee Murray here. He said, quote, in their own words, quote,

I caught him with a few good rights. He was rocked, so he took me down and I caught him in a key lock on the ground and won the fight. After that, I went to the hospital and got my hand plastered. It was broken two places. He was like, you know, after that I took a little trip to the hospital to celebrate. It was fun. I had a really good time. I like going to the hospital after a fight.

Most people spray champagne. I spray fucking painkillers. I stop by. the light of cane in the air put it in the air it's good you know what i mean it's a little topical baby so uh now 2000 after his first two fights and after this whole mess and i assume after his hand healed up a little bit he heads to bettendorf iowa what comes over to the states yeah fascinating fucking didn't expect that did did you? Expected maybe. Didn't know they had an airport. Really? Yeah. I don't know where he, maybe he flew

into Des Moines. I'm not sure. I assume it was a stopover in Buffalo. I don't know what happened. I doubt it was a, I doubt it was a nonstop to Bettendorf. He throw to Bettendorf one way. What does that flight cost you? So he goes there there to train apparently there's a really great mma trainer and especially a grappling trainer named pat milotic that lives there and he's a famous mma trainer he trained a bunch of guys uh that were champs later on things like that milotic said of him of murray he said quote he was he was a physically a very gifted guy very fast very strong he would have probably been a world champion. Would have been.

That already lets you know. Shit's going to go awry. Shit will go. I'm telling you right now. No surprises. He's going to start doing well and shit's going to go awry. You surprised? I didn't think so.

Let's continue. Anybody shocked? Anybody put down their eye for their phone and just be like, oh, shit. I thought he was going to go on and be a success, and I thought his crime was over with. He got sent away to juvie when he was a kid for the drugs. I figured that was it. It's all rebound story. Now it's a really nice story.

It's going to be Willie Mays Akins is going to find his ring, and everybody's going to be happy. Nope. Let's see here. Not happening. Another MMA fighter, Robbie Lawler, said of Murray when he came to Iowa, quote, Lee Murray had world-class punching power. Man, he would hit the mitts, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop,

and he would stop your workout because it sounded like gunfire. Awesome. So that's cool when you get a guy, that's like in baseball when you hear that pop in the mitt and everyone goes, who threw that? Who threw that? Yeah, holy shit, that thing hit the glove like different than other people's. So he takes his skills on June 17, 2000 while he's in the U.S. He makes his U.S. debut.

Fights over here in the glorious, absolutely the lavish, the decadent location of Hayward, Wisconsin. Which I have no fucking idea where that is. It's a small town in a state full of cows and cheese, and that's it, and 12 people. And the cows are the women. Sorry, Wisconsin. Right. Oh, yeah, that was bad.

Jimmy's mocking your women. You can reach Jimmy at WhismanSucks on Twitter. Keep that one off the Crime and Sports page. You can send that directly to Jimmy. Directly to me. Save us all some... That way I don't get tagged, and I have to look at it and call him and be like dude what did you say i don't even fucking remember

hate mo welcome so sorry wisconsin women you're all very very my sister lived there and she gained a shitload of weight just living fine no it's no problem it's freezing out and they have tons of dairy and beer it's not their fault honestly sausage. Sausage, beer, cheese. You can't go outside eight months out of the year and you have food. What are you supposed to do? So he wins a fight against Chris Albandia. Wins by submission in 2 minutes, 23 seconds in the first round. So U.S. debut is set. He's 3-0.

Not bad, right? He's on a roll. He's on a roll. Now, while he's fighting, he's making very little money. Yeah, I was just going to, my head was just going that route. Like, in the UK, he's making money with the drugs. Here, he doesn't know who the fuck to sell to. No, and he's only over here training for a few months anyway.

So, I mean, he's still, though, even though he's making, you know, who knows, he's making off a beer hall fight in some thing in Hayward, Wisconsin. He's winning, but how much can you, right. How many people could be, what could the gate be to split among the fighters, honestly? What is that purse? Yeah, come on, dude. So still, though, he's able to afford a really nice house for Siobhan and the daughter in the suburbs over there. Epstein said of him, his buddy Epstein from the gang said gang said quote lee had his fingers in a lot of

pies that interested the police oh so he's he's they're they are aware of him everybody's aware of what he's doing he said figured out i've got to find somewhere to move drugs absolutely he said that murray's often followed around the police and camp by you know by the police that they're just seeing what he's doing because they know he's up to something because he's always up to something he's selling drugs he's doing something uh and this is nothing too he's done nothing what he does in crime by the way is the biggest thing that anyone's ever done well you can call murder big but outside of murder this is the biggest crime anyone's ever committed i can't talk about later it's amazing it's i had no idea it ever happened and it's

amazing you probably didn't either listening in the history of the world, I'll tell you. Really? It's the largest crime of its type in the history of the world. Awesome. We'll get into it. It's incredible. That's why he's Murph the Surf. Except he wasn't stupid taking diamonds.

Right. We'll talk about what he took. So June 17, 2000, he fights again in Hayward, Wisconsin. He cannot escape the allure of the dairy state. He can't. He can't escape it. He wanted to leave with the glitz and the glamour of the Kurds just brought him back.

Of the glistening white skin of Wisconsin. Yep. He loses to Joe Dirksen by submission in this one. Minute 19. Yeah, apparently he was really pissed off at himself too. He went after him a certain, you know how MMA is basically. You go after someone a certain way. If you miss something and they hook you the right way, you're fucked.

You're just done. So he caught him in a lock and he had to tap out. He was done. And the guy he lost to, Joe Dirksen, ended up fighting all the way through 2014 and had a 51-16 record. Oh, so he was good. So he was no joke. This wasn't like some scrub in the beer hall. He was in Hayward, Wisconsin, but he was just. So he was no joke. This wasn't like some scrub in the beer hall. He was in Hayward,

Wisconsin, but he was just the beginning of a pretty good career. So that's his first loss that he suffers here. July 9th, 2000, this is a couple weeks later, less than a month later, has a no contest with a guy named Danny Rushton. Apparently Rushton, at the end of the first

round, collapsed from exhaustion and couldn't continue. It had nothing to do with the fight, so they just... I was just going to ask, in an MMA fight, what is a no contest? Yeah, what is it exactly? That's a guy that just can't go on anymore? That's a win. But it wasn't because of the fight, I guess, apparently. Apparently, he had some medical... I don't know what the hell happened.

He had some exhaustion. Emphysema or some shit. And who the hell knows? This was in England back in the beer hall here, so they probably had some special rule. If he had too many pints beforehand, he passes out. We're calling it a no contest. Anyone has too many Guinness and passes out, it's fine. So, too many Stellas or whatever the fuck you're drinking over there.

I know you like Stella over there. Stella's Belgium. But they like it. Do they like it? Yeah, I think they like Stella over there. I know that England likes their beer really fucking strong. They like it, yeah. And they drink big ones.

And warm and gross. Yeah. Good for you guys. Strong in room temperature. Good for you guys. And eventually, we're going to make our way over there. Yeah. And you guys have to show us how to drink this.

You're going to show us what to drink. We'll fucking do it. We'll hang out with you guys. We're into it. They drink it like we drink red wine. We want to come over there eventually. You leave it out in a decanter to drink. There you go.

So, November 24, 2000, he makes an honest woman, a Siobhan, here, marries her. So that's nice. They're forming a little demented little family unit. A demonic little family unit. A nice little Manson family is fucking marinating and percolating over here for the future. This is going to be excellent. Terrific. Can't wait to hear about Lee Jr.

Yeah. So I don't know if they're... He has a son. I don't know if it's Lee Jr. Oh, that'd I don't know if they're... He has a son. I don't know if it's Lee Jr. Oh, that'd be great. We'll talk about him in about five years. Don't worry. So, March 11, 2001, he fights at High Wycombe Judo Center in High Wycombe, England.

Has a draw with a guy named Chris Bacon. And Bacon was an Australian judo fighter and actually fought in the 92 Olympics for Australia. Really? A good judo fighter, apparently. He fought in Barcelona for Australia. Really? A good judo fighter, apparently. He fought in Barcelona for them. So, yeah, not too shabby. So he has a draw with him, whatever goes the distance. In relation to the Bacon Boys of Canada?

I don't know. He's from Australia. So maybe they got around the globe. So he has another fight July 1, 2001 here in High Wycombe again, judo center. He beats a guy named Gary Warren by KO in the first round. Now he's 4-1-1. He's starting to figure this out. Gary Warren sounds like a tough man. It sounds

like a tough British man, doesn't it? Yeah, with like a potbelly, like a Chuck Liddell look. Yeah, he's had a few pints. He's ready to take a punch. He's got a good chin, I feel like. Doesn't feel much right now. Maybe not, though, because he got knocked out with punches in the first round. We underestimated Gary.

Like Lee Murray in a mink coat, we underestimated Gary Warren the opposite way. Overestimated. Overestimated. So Roger Kautz, who is later in a case going to be a co-defendant of him, of Lee Murray, Roger Kautz, said of Lee Murray, quote, Lee Murray had security firms. He runs doormen. He has flash cars and he is a well-known drug dealer. Everyone knows it. He's a

gangster. So that's what his buddy said of him. He runs doormen? What the fuck does that mean? I don't know what that means, but basically I think he has security firms, he runs doormen, I don't know what the fuck he's doing. Maybe he has a security firm that he contracts out to places. This is like British street slang for shit. Do people do that out there?

I don't know what the hell you're doing. Let's not get in, because people are going to go crazy. No, it's not this, it's that. We don't know. We're trying to take common sense and relate it to these terms, when their terms mean something that is... It's something different. It might be just even more common sense.

We just don't see it. We may get a tweet that goes, you guys were dead on. Keep going. Dead on, yeah. No, you're right. Absolutely. Yeah, and we're trying. I can't look up what a doorman means.

You know how much shit I had to look up for this? If you have any fucking idea, this isn't anywhere. You can go on Wikipedia and it'll give you a breakdown. But not all of this shit. I hate Wikipedia so much for this. He actually had a better Wikipedia than 99% of the guys we had. Yeah, it had more deep but i mean nowhere near what we're gonna do here right but we're in the midst of but it was still like i i

opened it was like this isn't bad actually because i looked at wikipedia last just to be like did i miss anything because it glosses over the the basics otherwise i don't look at that sort of thing and that one i actually went this wasn't bad i should have looked at this earlier would have given me some one of his friends clearly wrote this. Yeah, one of his... No, no, it says interesting things about him. He's such a gangster and he's so flashy. You know what kind of car he's just driving around

at one point here? I'm going to go with a Rolls Royce. He's driving a Ferrari, which is a little not too, you know, nondescript there. It's as conspicuous as you get. But guess what color it is, Jimmy? Yellow.

Yellow Ferrari. No way. He's driving a yellow Ferrari. That's like what a porn star drives. He might as well just have a big siren on top of him going, I sell drugs. I sell drugs. See me for coke.

Anybody need any? And then Stanley Wilson sees him driving by, and he's like, hey, you got cocaine? Somebody hit my car with a rock. It might have been him. He got a yellow car. I think he got cocaine. Can you turn me into a dust zombie?

Can you, please? So June 16, 2002, he's got another fight. Hi, Wycombe. Judo center, same thing. He beats Kama Boomna. His first name is Kama? Kama, K-A-M-A. Kama Boomna.

By submission in only 20 seconds. Wow. He must have just latched on to him and that was that. So he's 5-1-1 at that point. He's rocking it. Now, let's get into something crazy. He beat him in as long a time as it took for me to laugh at his first name. Absolutely.

That's that quick. He has a shorter as long a time as it took for me to laugh at his first name. Absolutely. That's that quick. He has a shorter fight later that we'll get into. But this fight that we're going to talk about now, which is not in the ring, is a crazy thing. And UFC fans will really be into this. And anybody will be into this

because it's a crazy-ass story. But UFC fans will really be interested in this. It's July 13, 2002. UFC holds their event. It's a pay-per-view in royal albert hall in london it's their first you know uk ufc event yeah and it's ufc 38 is the pay-per-view now after the event there's a huge after party obviously they're gonna go party it's a big deal and all the fighters are there guys who are like peripheral mma guys champs everybody they're over there trying to fly the flag of like we want to be here you know show let's let's show you that you have

everybody there so everyone's there lee murray's at the after party everybody chuck liddell tito ortiz all the guys from that era that are really you know 2002 badass guys uh matt hughes who's a guy yeah a little little white guy yeah we'll talk about him later is he from Wisconsin I am not sure where he's from he's not he's like a farm boy he's not British

I know that much just from his syntax of listening to him I watched I watched the UFC from like 2003 to 2005 and then I fucking

got out of it but Matt Hughes then was like he was just like the farm boy like the down home with people flying American flags behind him while he was just like the farm boy like the down home with people flying american flags behind him while he comes into like country music or some shit god that's

odd yeah it's his very farm boy by the way lee murray has the most crazy sick scary entrance ever i'll tell you about it a little bit very demonic i imagine it's insane you're like oh my god i'm not fighting this fucking guy so so this this night here july 13th here after the ufc we're at the after party now pat miletic the trainer he had one of his guys was fighting that night one of his guys that he trained was fighting for a championship that night so he's at the after party too and he knows all these fucking guys they've been hanging out all week so they're over there now this is lee murray's home turf here he's got his few of his boys with him he's got the enforcer he's got paul the enforcer home turf here he's got his few of his boys with him he's

got the enforcer he's got paul the enforcer alan with him he's got all this now they've been hanging out with milotic now they don't know his buddies murray's buddies they only know milotic they don't really know the ufc guys at all they know milotic they've been hanging out with him all week he's part of their crew they got his back basically even though he doesn't know it or need it. But anyway, so let's get a quote from Miletic to tell you how this whole situation tipped off. A brawl breaks out, okay? And this is how it starts. He says, quote, One of Tito Ortiz's friends jumped on my back as a joke.

This is Miletic talking. A buddy of Lee's thought he was trying to start a fight with me and jumped in. it exploded lee took off his jacket tito did too oh no so now we got these two guys squaring off now if you're not an mma fan and i'm not a huge mma guy but a ufc guy but tito ortiz is a bad motherfucker that i do know yeah and everybody you've heard his name bandied about as fighting this guy fighting that guy beat up jenna jameson he's a yeah yeah that wasn't one of his finer moments or tougher moments but if you've seen him in the ring he was a champion he's a bad dude like he was the bad boy of of huntington beach yeah he was huntington beach and he was a mean mean man and so yeah well his head is a block his head's a block and he never gets knocked out that's his thing well let's talk militant we have another quote of the militant from militant of this brawl here quote tito threw a left hand and missed he uh he lee

obviously ducked out of the way and then he threw a five punch combo every punch connected perfectly bone on bone you could hear them very solid shots tito went down lee kicked him in the head twice even though it was you know know, argued by Tito, the world champ got throttled in an alley by an English MMA fighter. And, you know, stardom was born. Welcome to England. So that...

He's a fucking legend now, Lee Murray, among the fighters. They're all like, that guy whooped Tito Ortiz's fucking ass. Now, Tito Ortiz denies the shit out of this. Of course, but it happened. I'm running with it happened. He said, we fought, and it was a big brawl,

and I didn't even know what was going on, and he hit me, and I went down because I had dress shoes on, but I popped right back up again. I've never been knocked out, blah, blah, blah. That's his quote, and we have a great quote. You know it was the laziest left-hand throw ever. He threw a hook at him. So we have in

the brawl here one of the men this is so crazy of a brawl this wasn't just these two once it it blew up i mean there was people fighting everywhere it was in the street in the brawl a guy was knocked to the street and his arm was run over by a cab by a taxi as it drove by so i mean people are getting thrown into the traffic into traffic so chuck liddell said of the fight because he was involved too another famous mma guy here he said quote i'm hitting one i'm hitting a guy with spinning back fists and just dropping guys it was a classic street fight if you don't know if i don't know you i'll drop you so he's just i mean and they said he was like back against a wall basically liddell and just fending people off just punching them knocking people out left and right that were

coming at him if you don't know who he is you don't want to take a punch from him no they called him the ice man you there's a reason why he didn't put you to sleep it's it he's a bad dude he's a bad he's knocking people out now like i said tito ortiz denies this whole thing no no no i was fine now here's matt hughes who's a fellow fighter and just he's actually reputable too he's not like in a prison somewhere salt of the earth he says quote this is from his book an excerpt from his book he wrote a book in like 2009 he says quote tito throws a left hook at lee and misses and right as he missed lee murray counters with like a five-punch combo. Landed right on the chin, knocked Tito out.

Out. Tito fell face-first to the ground, and then Lee Murray stomped on his face a couple of times with his boots. Wow. So that's the exact thing the other guy said. Exact same story. That's what happened. Yeah.

Period. That's it. That's what happened. Two stories that are identical. And a third. I don't give a fuck what you say, Tito. Let's hear what Lee Murray has to say about it, because this is fucking awesome. Because this is say, Tito. Let's hear what Lee Murray has to say about it because this is fucking awesome

because this is, you know, claiming, this is also against Tito Ortiz's claim of the fresh shoes. He's like, fuck this. No. This is how crazy he is.

This is great. Here is, in their own words, on the whole fight here from Lee Murray. Quote, His friend was knocked out cold. I was laughing. He seen me

and took his jacket off. He comes running at me throwing punches and I smacked him up. Tito was drunk? What about me? I was drinking vodka and champagne all night. I was drunk as well. What does he think? I was sober and just finished up a couple rounds of shadow boxing and was ready.

I was drinking all night and had dress shoes on as well. He's like, fuck him. We were all hanging out drunk. I squared up in my Bruno Mali. We all had dress shoes on. He said before, he was like, I took my jacket off. drunk i squared up in my bruno molly we all had dress shoes on he said before he was like i took my jacket off i put my watch in my pocket and like let's get it on motherfucker wow so i mean that must have been everyone probably went oh yeah and the ufc guys were probably like oh this guy's in trouble tito's gonna be they were like whoa what the hell is that who's this guy did you hear that bone on bone who's this guy? Did you hear that bone on bone? Who's this guy? That sounded like gunshots, as we've heard from him.

I mean, that's crazy shit. Now, Dana White, who's the UFC owner and, I guess, still president, even though they just sold it here, he's seen a lot of bad dudes, I'd imagine, and probably isn't that affected or impressed by any of them. And I've heard his interviews. He's like, eh, whatever. He'll talk shit about these guys. He doesn't seem to fear much. And he said, quote.

Oh, please. At their weigh-ins and shit, when they have fights and stuff, they'll be right behind him being like, Connor, knock it off. Connor, knock it off. When Conor McGregor's mouthing off. Absolutely. So he says of Lee Murray, quote,

he's a scary son of a bitch. And I don't mean fighter-wise. He's like, I'm scared of him as a human. That is awesome. He's a frightening man. He scares me. He just doubled down on the demonic part.

Yeah, he's a little demonic and he frightens Dana White. He scares me and not in the fighting. Not in the fighting, right. So now we get to this.

It's another high Wycombe match here, September. Now he's got to be feeling good about this. He just knocked out Tito Ortiz. Now he's going to

the Judo Center to fight some schlub who ended up finishing up with an 11-10 record, the guy he fought amir ron avardi he beats him in the first round in four seconds wow he basically comes in hits him twice and they said let's get it never mind it's apparently his his people his entourage went batshit rushed the the ring, and went nuts, and they caused the fucking... Amir's? No, no, no. Oh, Lee's?

Lee's. Lee's entourage. Because he went in there. It was like an N1 video, and somebody fucking crosses somebody over and then dunks on him. And everyone goes, oh, shit, and runs away. That's what happened. They just rushed the ring. They were like, oh, my God, he just knocked him out.

Holy shit. And then it started a riot in this place. And this, apparently with the crowd, because they were knocking tables over and people weren't taking that shit. I had money on this. I paid a lot of money for this ticket. That's all I get to see.

Basically, the promoters at that point were like, dude, his people are too crazy. Like, we can't have this guy fight in our place. They just destroyed the judo center. This is not cool. Like, the fuck? So he's 6'1". There's a fire in the women's restroom.

Yes. Like, that's not... There's not even a woman here. I don't know how that could even possibly happen. So he's done with that there, the Judo Center. But he's 6-1-1. So he's establishing himself. Yeah.

Now, March 2003, a little sidetrack here. He's fighting. He's knocking out world champs. Right. march 2003 we'll sidetrack here he's fighting he's knocking out world champs now he's questioned twice then arrested for the murder of sabina rizvi uh some woman who was shot twice after her boyfriend was in a fight with a group of men so they questioned him twice and the second time arrested him they ended up releasing him eventually and they eventually arrested and tried and convicted a man named paul

asbury for life for the murder but they still think others were involved including lee and they outwardly say he was a suspect and sort of still is basically does paul asbury have any ties to lee murray no and paul asbury well i'm sure he does that's why but also paul asbury is not going to say lee murray was helping me because he'd rather just sit in jail for the rest of his life. I would too. Lee will come find you, I feel like. So we're back to the beer halls. Prison bars do not keep you safe from Lee Murray.

No, no, no, no. I don't think anything can keep you safe from this guy. So July 13, 2003, we're in London, and he beats Jose Landy Johns, who goes by Pele Landy Johns, and I guess he is a friend of Anderson Silva. That will come up later. And he beats him pretty good, apparently, that whole Landy Johns here.

He beats him 32 seconds in round two, knocks him out, bringing Lee to 7-1-1. And I think he kind of flaunted it a little and embarrassed him a little bit, too, and shit like that. Made him a little upset about it. Exactly. And he'll bring it up with Anderson Silva later on when they have a little confrontation.

And we have an in their own words on this fight from Mr. Lee Murray. He says, quote, he's probably still in the ring, probably still sleeping, catching flies. I know now that the UFC has got to open their eyes to me. They've got to take me. There's no ifs or buts. Wow. He's like, I'm ready for the UFC. That guy's a good fighter. He's one of their guys.

I just beat the shit out of him. I left him catching flies. Catching flies. And while he did it too, he made a face like, with his mouth open. He did one of those. He was really mocking the guy too. That's hilarious. Things are going well. UFC, you know, whatever. Things are going great for him. It's going

so well. So what do you do? It's Christmas Day, 2003. You're having a good year. You beat up Tito Ortiz. He's saying, they've got to open their eyes to me. So Christmas Day, he's with his family. His wife is pregnant. Seven months pregnant again.

Again. Wife's pregnant. He has a young daughter, Lily Jane, in the seat. So sweet. In the Range Rover. They're driving. Who knows? They could have been delivering.

It's Christmas Day. They could have been delivering presents to underprivileged kids or more likely dropping off a kilo of Coke or breaking someone's neck. Right. Either way, they're driving. We need someone catching flies. They're driving through an English town in their Range Rover when they are sideswiped by a car. Uh-oh. And apparently they tried to get away from each other and they kind of hit each other again.

There's a poor guy named Derek Parker. I feel like it's... I'm sorry. It's not Derek Parker. David Meyer. Derek Parker is his attorney. Okay. So there's a fellow named David Meyer, this poor bastard.

He needed a lawyer. He needed more than a lawyer. This guy needed like an armed guard and a priest. That's what he needed a lawyer he needed he needed more than a lawyer this guy needed like an armed guard and a priest that's what he needed standing by him to perform last rites even though he didn't die we'll get into what happened here right now though so they get out so he gets out of the car lee gets out of the car after this accident apparently not a happy camper not feeling the christmas spirit no say at this moment in time not exactly saying you know what it's christmas my dinner's getting cold let's let it go you know what as a matter of fact why

don't you come to my house for a drink and we'll talk about this since it's christmas and let's all have a nice spirit right i feel like it was more like i'm gonna jam a turkey up your ass well as derrick parker murray's attorney and the silverest of silver-haired middle-aged white men, says of him, quote, Lee disabled the vehicle, then disabled the driver, as he put it. That's his own attorney said that, by the way. His own attorney said that. That wasn't the prosecutor saying what he did wrong. That's his own attorney. He fucked him up good, man.

Let me tell you something. He beat this man so bad. And this guy, I think he's 48 years old, something like that. He's an older guy, too. Not a fighter he's david meyer driving around london he's not trying to fight anybody he's just driving on christmas day i'm sorry i dented your bumper he probably got sent out for ice this poor son of a bitch you know what i mean ice he got sent out for more whatever the fuck they're like we have a turkey and no chardonnay. Your mother's here. We need more meat to boil. Go out and get it. You know what I mean?

To boil. Sorry. Oh, my God. Sorry, England. Sorry, England. You referenced their food preparation. Oh, Jesus. Anyway, so Meyer's going out for more meat to boil.

He's got something cooking up here. Lee beats him so savagely, this man is in a coma for six days six days he's six day coma'd him that's a special kind of beating that's not a regular beating he didn't punch him once that's a six day coma you usually wake up after ten seconds or so

he just hits everything like I expect him honestly you know how like sometimes your toaster it'll get stuck in there for a second.

Does he just punch it like he's so full of is everything have holes in it in his house? His drywall must be destroyed. And forget it

the calcification of his hands he could demolish a wall. Oh man can you imagine when he's doing shit? I don't know

it's like a tack hammer that he's got for a hand. It's like a tack hammer. That's the for a hand. It's like a tack hammer. That's the thing, man. And he's tacking shit, I would say here. So he finally gets his big shot. He gets his big shot on January 31st, 2004 in Mandalay Bay. Oh.

At the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas. Makes his UFC pay-per-view debut. With his calcified hands. In Vegas. So this is a real shit. This is a month after he beat a middle-aged man into a coma. Is this our pinnacle? This here would be our pinnacle, guys.

This is our pinnacle. This is the mountaintop. He's up there with his Sherpa next to him. His Moroccan dishwasher-handed father. He's on the mountaintop but he's got his hand over his eye guarding it from the sun looking over the valley right now just look and it's going to get slightly higher by the end of the point pointing at the pointing at their destination i think i can see it from here i can see it there it is i'm going to be champ there's retirement

he has one of the more interesting ring entrances I've ever seen in my life. He comes to the ring wearing, okay, an orange prison jumpsuit. Oh, my God. First of all. Foreshadowing. Like a fucking legit prison jumpsuit. With a DOC number and everything. Yeah, wears a prison jumpsuit zipped up and everything and a Hannibal Lecter mask.

That's how he came to the ring. Wow. Imagine this psychopath coming at you demonic demonic looking in the eyes with a prison jumpsuit and a hannibal lecter mask he wants to fight you yeah no thank you and that's the guy that just signed a contract to beat your ass i'm good now no thank you oh no fucking part of that can i leave now no part of it so he enters the ring like that takes off his jumpsuit and he has an rip somebody's shirt on i it wasn't the guy he was fighting because that's who i

figured it probably was rip the guy he's fighting it was somebody else somebody else he had an rip somebody's shirt on i don't know if that means he's gonna kill someone or he's sad about somebody that died with this guy who the fuck knows it could have been just as likely that he killed someone yeah or he was planning on killing someone so he wins a submission in a minute 45 in his UFC debut

and I saw the fight too he was pretty nasty he did it good and he had a man he went crazy too he's celebrating like crazy he went nuts I mean it's his first

he thought he was on his way there I mean and they're offering a contract too there's a contract for another fight on the table. $78,000 contract offer for his next fight. He's going up the line, and they like the way he did it, too.

He does it with flourish. Like, he won the fight, and he wasn't one of those guys that won and then just kind of walked around. Second the guy tapped, he jumped up and leaped up on top of the cage, leapt up there and straddled it going crazy and they liked him people were like yeah this guy's got personality he's got flash and he's got charisma basically is what it is yeah he doesn't give a shit so now june 2004 this is six months later not even prosecutors over in england filed charges of causing grievous bodily harm from the

christmas combing of a poor middle-aged man on Christmas fucking day while his wife and child looked on. That's the other thing we didn't get into. They were in the car, too? They were in the car. He said he's driving with his seven-month-old wife, seven-month-pregnant wife, and his young daughter in the car. So his wife and child. Oh, Lee Murray's. Lee Murray.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lee Murray's wife and child watched him do that. That's not okay. By the way, that will fuck your kids up, Lee Murray. Lee Murray. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lee Murray's wife and child watched him do that. That's not okay. By the way, that will fuck your kids up, I think. I think so. I'm pretty sure. So anyway, he's charged with this. Now, this keeps him, because he was even charged with this,

it keeps him from being allowed in the U.S. The State Department refuses to issue him a work visa because he's a fucking psychopath. He's a psychopath. It's probably better you're to issue him a work visa because he's a fucking psychopath. He's a psychopath. It's probably better you're not letting him in the goddamn country. We don't need this guy wandering around over here. Sorry, England, you can keep him. And this is post 9-11. This is security purposes. Dude, he's all yours, guys. He's not going to blow anything up. We just don't need him in our bars and restaurants walking around punching people for no reason, beating up nine of our bouncers. We're good you or our elderly or our elderly or anybody else not that 48 is elderly but if the guy was 78 you think he would have done any different no no he would have cracked his old skull like a fucking

cantaloupe you kidding me somebody would have a new hip a new hip yeah his hip because it would have been taken out of him after he died from a beating someone would have had a new kidney and a new heart some eyes all sorts of shit would have had a new kidney and a new heart. Some eyes. All sorts of shit. It would have been terrible. So yeah, he's not allowed to enter the U.S.

So he's fucked there, basically. And he has a fight in England here with Anderson Silva. He fought it? Lee Murray fought Anderson Silva?

He fights Anderson Silva in September of 2004. It is not a UFC fight. It's a cage rage fight. Rage in the cage. Rage cage, rage in the cage, whatever the fuck it was. So anyway, Silva said at the weigh-in about Murray, quote, he talked an unbelievable amount of shit.

He said about it. He kept saying, like, you know, I'm going to do you like I did your buddy Pele. And he was talking shit about that. This is a man. Anderson Silva is known for rope-a-doping people. He'll spin his fists and point at them.

He's a shit-talking man. I ain't taking shit. I am the bigger shit-talker. And that's a man that says that Lee Murray talks an unbelievable amount of shit. Lee Murray will murder you. That's the difference. Anderson Silva might be, is he in trouble at all? He might be. I think he may have quit. He may have quit because

he had the most amazing injury I've ever seen. Oh, I remember that. Did you see that? Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. He had a kick in his foot like wrapped around the guy's leg.

Yeah, that was horrific. That was not cool at all. That was fucking gross. It makes me giggle every time. It's almost, yeah. It's hysterical. It's the sock full of quarters. Right.

It's the sock full of quarters.'s the sock full of quarters it goes around a man's shin so also silva said that uh that murray found one of his pair of silva's shorts over sitting over a chair in the locker room one of his you know fighting shorts there with silva there and he took it murray took it and ripped the brazilian flag off it and threw it at him wow he's just being a dick yeah sil at him. Wow. So he's just being a dick. Silva's from Brazil. That's ballsy. Yeah, he's just being a complete dick. And Silva, you know, he's not going to let anybody get to him mentally. He's a pro.

Right. Pro's pro. So September 11, 2004 is the fight. It's at the Wembley Conference Center in London. So it's a big goddamn fight. He loses a unanimous decision to Silva. Went the distance with him, though. Really?

Lost the decision, went the distance, and was like, yeah, I can get him next time. Murray's like, I'm not going to fuck out next time. Wow. Basically, he was tough. He's not afraid of Anderson Silva. No, and he went the distance with him, and Anderson Silva should be afraid of him

because he couldn't put him away. So he's 8-2-1. After the fight, they went, and post-fight handshake, you know, they shook hands, and Silva palmed the Brazilian flag, gave it back to him. won after the fight they went and post-fight handshake you know they they shake hand they shook hands and silva palmed the brazilian flag gave it back to him so he took his hand away like that's what you get motherfucker so he gave him a little uh ribbon back which i thought was a little right there fred he had the last laugh right yeah so june 2005 now this is a almost a

year later uh he can't get into the u.s to fight he has he hasn't fought since then he's trying to get into the u.s and he's trying to get big fights if they're over in europe um he is receives a citation lee murray does for loitering he's loitering on a street corner 16 year olds loitering on a street corner weird just like an industrial area there's a like a car garage and some brick buildings. And he's loitering on a street corner. Seems odd, right, that he would be doing that in June 2005. Keep that date.

June 2005. Okay. Odd, right? Right. We'll find out why he's doing that. It's bizarre. A little bit. A little bizarre.

He has an eventful September of 2005. Really? With fighting non-sanctioned fucking fights here. This is the first incident. September 21st, 2005. Really? With fighting non-sanctioned fucking fights here. This is the first incident. September 21st, 2005. He is in a fight outside of one of his favorite hangouts. It's a nightclub in the

Mayfair district of London. It's like a high scale, you know, I guess we're drug dealers and people who like to do coke go and, you know, porn stars and shit like that. From the way it was described, that's what it was. A week later, we'll talk about it. But anyway, he's outside of there, and there is a major brawl, of course.

And of course, Lee's involved. Absolutely, that's what he does. That's what he does. He's fighting, he's knocking people out, and he's stabbed in this fight. And he said it wasn't a big deal because, quote, it only sliced his left nipple off. He lost his left nipple in this fight. He lost a nipple. He lost a nipple and just was like, that's no big deal because, quote, it only sliced his left nipple off. He lost his left nipple in this fight.

He lost a nipple. He lost a nipple and just was like, that's no big deal. Without a shirt, you look disgusting now. And he doesn't care. He just didn't care anyway because he was just like, whatever. I mean, it's, you know,

he's just a little stab wound. Like, literally, he was like, I got stabbed so hard. Somebody was clearly aiming at your heart. Eh, no big deal. Sometimes you get stabbed. What's the difference, right? And this is what the the british rage cage promoter and he's a friend of murray's too he said of he said of this incident this is amazing this is the wackiest quote i've ever heard

imagine you had a friend that you would say this this about like yeah whatever he said quote it was just a minor stabbing like the like these that happen every night of the week. He had stab wounds, bullet wounds. He was a proper from-the-streets kid. Good grief. So he was like, he gets stabbed all the time. I know nobody like that. It's no big deal.

You know, they were like, yeah, he gets stabbed all the time. People shoot at him. Don't worry about it. He's fine. Tell me about the missing nipple. Yeah. It's just another wound. It's fucking, that's amazing.

That's amazing. He's, ah, he's fucking that's amazing man that's amazing he's back he's got that please so now one week later september 28th 2005 he is back at the funky buddha hanging out this is at a birthday party for a topless model named lauren pope they called her she's one of the page three girls which over there they have nude girls on page three of one of the papers that's a a big thing there i don't know if they still do what i think they do that's the thing that 16 year old steel it's just a wank too yeah it's a topless girls on oh this one's topless it's just basically whores on parade or whatever you want to call it i don't know so topless chicks in the newspaper right i can't imagine getting paid much

for it i don't know that's but anyway so lee's involved in another fight in this one now it's another huge brawl what the what is going on in this nightclub where there's huge brawls every week? There's always a brawl. And it's not just a couple of guys. It's the whole place exploding like blazing saddles. You know, like we've talked about when they're fighting the musical people.

It's that. And then cue the fire in the women's room. It's ridiculous. And the women's toilet paper roll is on fire. And the tampon machine burns. Excellent. I assume you have tampon machines in there from what i've seen fingers crossed at least just in case i hope so this time he is

stabbed several times jesus and and and has a real touch and go thing with with death here uh he's stabbed several times he has a punctured lung and a severed artery in his chest there's blood squirting everywhere yeah it's a disaster he tries to stumble to a cab that was sitting out there but the cab driver sees him spewing blood he's like not in this car locks the door and takes off he's like get the fuck out of here he's gone so he's like stumbling in the street and basically falls down in the street like went like near a train station and fell down and two women and were in a car and they saw him and helped him and said we'll take you to the hospital for them and they were in the

middle of london and they're not from the middle of london so they didn't know where the hospital was so they drove him around in circles for a minute and then ended up calling an ambulance and saying spewing blood we're fucking here he's bleeding all over the car can you come help us basically yeah they're like the wheels on the wrong side of the car i don't know where the fucking hospitals are this man's squirting blood all of the car. I don't know where the fucking hospitals are. This man's squirting blood all over the back of my driver's seat. Somehow he doesn't die in the car. He makes it to the hospital.

He has a lot of blood. It's insane. He needs emergency surgery. He is resuscitated four times during the night. Dies four times during the night. They gave him eight pints of blood over the course of the night. He's just going. Don't you only hold 12?

Yeah, and he lost most of it, I think. Oh, my God. Yeah, he was dead for three whole minutes at one point, and the doctors told his family, basically, he's been out for three minutes. Even if we bring him back, he might have brain damage. So they were like, we don't know. His mother was freaking out. His mother was on holiday somewhere, and she had to, like, try to come home.

She was trying to get home and frantically trying to get there. You know, they think he's dead, basically. They told him that he might die. They were pretty sure he was going to die. Right. You know, so he ends up pulling through, though, somehow. Holy shit. He pulls through this incident, has carved up.

I mean, they got an artery good, obviously. It was squirting out. We'll get to his quote on it, which is beautiful. I'm really uncomfortable right now. It's what happened to him was gross yeah he got stabbed up uh his friends thought he was going to die everybody that was there when he woke up he grabbed the marker and you know you're bored in the hospital and he wrote warrior on it like i'm not fucking dying bitch he's a tough son of a bitch this guy it's like the the board that they put your name on and what you can eat today. Warrior he put on it.

Ice chips. And he's like, my name is not Lee Murray anymore. I am Warrior. He is a fucking demon. I think that might be it. He's indestructible, this guy. He's just terrifying the nurses in the hospital. Yeah, they're like, I don't know.

He's a little frightening. So here's his in their own words on this fight, which is amazing here. He'll explain the whole thing. Lee Murray, quote, One of my friends got involved in the fight. I tried to help him because about six or seven guys were on him. That's when I got stabbed. I got stabbed in the head first.

I thought it was a punch. When I felt the blood coming down my face, I wiped the blood and just continued to fight. Next, I looked down at my chest and blood was literally shooting out of my chest. It was literally flying out of my chest like a yard in front of me. I died three times that night. Oh my god. Imagine the fear. Let's take away from being stabbed

to death a lot. Imagine you're in a fight. Stabbed to death a lot. And you have a knife and you stab a man in the head. Right. And he doesn't react. No. He just wipes blood away and keeps punching someone. It's the Terminator.

Then you stab him in the chest, right in the heart. Yeah. Get an artery and everything. He didn't just miss him and go, oh, shit. Right. Got a lung. Got a fucking piece of an artery and everything. And he doesn't even notice.

That guy had his shit in his pants when that happened. I'd run. I would run, too. Holy shit. And his whole thought is... Just run. There was six or seven guys. I'm not scared of six or seven guys.

It's like my friend was getting beat up. Right. Fuck that. I'm going to go. I got caught in the head and wiped the blood. If I see blood in the middle of a fight, I'm going to be checking where I'm bleeding at. Yeah, he just was like, eh. And he didn't even know that he was...

Stabbed him in the head. He was shooting a yard out of his chest. Who stabs a guy in that he was already... Stabbed him in the head. He was shooting a yard out of his chest. Who stabs a guy in the head, first of all? Who aims for the head with a knife? I've never seen that.

I'm going to stab you right in the head. Thunk. Maybe he's aiming for his neck. I don't fucking know. But we have the ultimate silver-haired, middle-aged white man

statement here. Holy shit. Fight promoter Andy Gere, who doesn't want him to ever get in any trouble, doesn't want bad press for him because he wants to use him. He's one of the cage guys, said, this is amazing. He said that Lee would never have started that fight, ever.

He wouldn't have done anything like that because, quote, he's had a colorful past, but those days are behind him. I don't know what happened, but I know he wouldn't have been looking for trouble. And he's never carried a weapon in his entire life. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He almost killed a man in the street. Like, those days are behind him. No, they're not.

He's good now. Literally, he was just killing a man in the street a week earlier. No problem. That's fine. Unbelievable. So, now we get to the meat of this bad boy here you think you'd think there's a lot of crime and fun and fuckery and there's nickery and just a complete disaster this is a this is a chorus of disaster is it not so far it's a mess right as we said with stanley wilson a symphony of

self-destruction right this is a disaster we haven't even touched it yet we haven't even got to the thing that makes this guy famous yet that's the thing like we're we've skimmed the surface you guys he almost died right now he's recovering he's almost killed others and died right both okay that's that's what we're dealing with right now okay now he's going to do the interesting part i can't't wait. Nothing so far has been interesting. This is going to be interesting. On February 21st, 2006, Murray has, this is in the evening, Murray has a car accident. He crashes his car on his own, solo crash, and flees the scene.

Okay. Okay. Takes off. Why would he do that, right? Hmm. We'll find out in a second. But he leaves his cell phone in the car by accident in his, you know, haste to flee. Yeah.

Leaves his cell phone behind, and the police find his car, and they find his cell phone, which has something very interesting in it that we'll talk about. Oh, no. Okay. Now, 7 p.m., I think it was about two hours after this car accident, there is a man named Colinin dixon driving home from work he's the manager of a it's called the securitas cash warehouse okay it is a cash depot that basically has the cash for the bank of england it's a it's a it's a depot where they bring cash in and then

distribute it fort knox to the banks with all cash there's nothing else but cash in and then distribute it to the banks with all cash. There's nothing else but cash in there. He's the manager of this place. He's driving home. He lives in suburban London. He's driving home. He's pulled over by the police on a quiet road out in the middle of nowhere. He's pulled over by the police. So the police come up to the car, and they have the vests on,

the reflective vests that the cops do over there, badges, and they're legit. And they tell the man he was speeding, and he doesn't know whether he's speeding or not but he's you know they tell him get out of the car he gets out of the car obviously they take him back to their car they handcuff him they put him in the car this is a lot for speeding this is a lot for speeding they put him in the car they bind him they get his feet they gag him they handcuffed him already from the and then they tied up his feet and they gag him ties and shit they they handcuffed him already from the and then they tied up his feet and they gagged him and held him at gunpoint in the back these are not cops these are not cops these are not cops they told him to comply or he would be shot so things are crazy at this point

right dixon the the manager of this place the man who was bound and gagged at this point later said that when they got him out of the car one of them pointed a gun at him and said quote you will have guessed we are not policemen don't do anything silly and you won't get hurt you're not we're not fucking about this is a nine millimeter that's the most british way you can rob someone we're not fucking about see this is a nine millimeter and i'll come over there and give you a vicious bunk on the head unreal we're not fucking about we're not fucking about this is a 9mm

so this guy's like okay I'm going to start saying that I am too that's a great thing to say I'm going to tell my kids

I'm not fucking about I'm not fucking about god damn it do you understand me I'm not fucking about turn off the TV I'm not fucking about I'm not fucking

so now they have him they take him away they put him have him. They take him away. They put him in a van and take him away. Okay. Now, 8.40 p.m. There's an hour, 40 minutes later. When there's a van involved, shit just got serious. Oh, it's bad when there's a van.

It's so serious. This has multiple vans. Yeah. We're just scratching the surface. 8.40 p.m. There's a knock on the door of Lynn Dixon, who is Mr. Dixon's wife at home. Oh, no. With their seven-year-old son, Craig.

Oh, no. And it's the police at the door. And the police are telling her, your husband's been in a terrible car accident. We're not fucking about it. We're not fucking about it. He's at the hospital. Come, we'll take you.

Grab your son and let's go. We'll take you to him, right? She gets in the car. We're not fucking about it. So that's what's going on here. It's a nine-millimeter zip ties, boom. They get her in the car. She gets held about so that's what's going on here nine millimeter zip ties boom they get her in the car she gets held at gunpoint gag thrown in the back of a van they're taken to a farm okay they're taken to a farm yeah this is some horror movie shit okay they're taken this poor woman is scared shitless she doesn't know what's going on she has

no idea what's going on all she knows is that they're not fucking about they're not fucking about there she's she's aware of the fact that they are not fucking about outside of that it could be anything like she could owe you know money she could owe her money on her electric bill she doesn't know but they're not fucking about they're definitely there they mean business okay so they take him to a farmhouse where they find the husband craig or the husband mr dixon here colin bound and gagged and handcuffed, which is a bad sign when you see the guy. That's not good.

No. That's not the way you want to see him. Oh, that's not a hospital bed. Oh, this is a farmhouse. He's in the hay. Oh, my. This is bad. What are those pigs for?

And he's gagging, you know, and they're like, holy shit. To the ball gag. He's like, they're not fucking about. They're not fucking about. You know that's what happens. They're not fucking about they're not fucking about you know that's what happened so they tell him to cooperate or his wife and son will be killed because they have him that's pretty good leverage so they wait several hours now it's a nine something they wait about three

hours around midnight they take the manager they throw him in a van they take him to the security to the depot the cash depot, and have him wave him inside. This is in Tonbridge, outside, outskirts of London. They get him inside the place. They get him in, obviously. He waves. They buzz him in. He comes in.

Basically, they're telling him, fucking, they have my, he walks in and he goes, they're not fucking about. He said, they have my wife and kid. they're not fucking about he said they have my wife and kid they're not fucking about they have 9mm and at this point too this is a policeman they walk in like it's a policeman so they let him in

they didn't care about the policeman that was fine normal for policemen to come in and out of there so he says don't fucking set off any alarms

whatever you do they're going to kill my wife and son they do all that they find the security guard the policeman overpowers a security guard takes care of him pretty easily they have mr dixon uh disable all the alarms so no one can do it and then they buzz in seven other robbers oh boy these other robbers are black you know outfits, big ski masks, prosthetics, fake beards, the whole deal. They have all

the shit, AK-47s. Wow. They're not fucking about. Yeah. They are not fucking about at all. This is better than Ocean's Eleven. This is great. Yeah, absolutely. Even the policeman that came in had a fake mustache, a beard, and prosthetic shit on his face, like a prosthetic nose and shit to hide their, because this is all, there's cameras everywhere.

So they want to hide their appearance. They are seen coming in at 1 21 a.m the security camera sees everybody come in they make all the robbers make their way around this depot they know where all the doors are they know where they know where very well and where the cash is how to get in to get the cash where the door is over here and this place is you know if you know if you go into an office building even and that's not a secure location like this where they keep the nation's cash, you don't even know where the bathroom is. It would take you a fucking 15 minutes

to find the bathroom before you have to ask some fucking lady from accounting, like, where I can pee now. You better hope you don't have to shit your pants. Yeah, this is a cash depot, man. This is like, they probably don't make it easy

to get around in here. It's probably, whatever. Things are hidden. It's unmarked, we'll say. It's not like, cash room this way, I doubt, with, we'll say. It's not like cash room this way. I downed a big fucking arrow that way. So they make their way around. They know what they're doing.

They know what they're doing because a few months earlier, a member of the crew named Ermir Haisanaj got an $11 an hour job at the depot, a 10-minute job interview, and they hired him on for $11 an hour to work the night shift over there. So what he did was, for weeks and weeks before the robbery, he wore a hidden camera in his belt buckle and documented everywhere. Just walked in so everybody had the footage, and they looked at it, they made plans. And oh, by the way, remember the loitering charge from June 2005?

You know where he was loitering at? Right out front. Right across the street from that place. Within distance. It was right across the street, on the corner, right where you can see it. And this building wasn't, it didn't say cash depot on it. It wasn't like a check cashing store. It was a completely nondescript brick building behind an auto mechanic shop.

So, I mean, it was purposely, it just looked like some shit warehouse that nobody would ever look twice at, basically. That was the point of it. They wanted everyone to know, hey, all the nation's cash is right here. Come get it. It's right behind Mako. This is how crazy this is. This is an operation. This is more than

Murph the Surf. They just bought a couple of books and drew a map and climbed down a fucking blinds. This is different. Jack Roland Murphy, you suck a dick compared to these people. This is cameras a couple of books and drew a map and climbed down a fucking blinds. This is different. Jack Roland Murphy, you suck a dick compared to these people. This is cameras in a belt buckle. And a crew, an AK-47.

And chasing it. And they didn't sneak in and sneak out. They are taking control of this shit. There is 14 employees that they have to take control over. a family.

They kidnapped a whole family, a seven-year-old, took them to a farmhouse. fucking about. No. They're in a goddamn farmhouse being threatened with their lives. Holy shit. And they don't...

Some of these robbers had body armor on, too, just in case. Just in case. They were the ones, like, in the lead. They did, like, a military operation. This is terrifying. It's insane, right? I've been robbed at gunpoint before. It is so fucking frightening.

And those guys, they had paintball masks on and pistols. There was no, my wife and kids weren't kidnapped, my parents weren't kidnapped. And this wasn't an organized thing with guys with AK-47s and ski masks

and prosthetics on. I'd be like, dude, this is crazy. They have prosthetics on. They could do anything to us. I can't even, I don't even know who they are.

The guy's wearing an Obama mask. Come on, man. This is crazy. So they end up, seven of the robbers go after the vault while 14 of the staff is held at gunpoint. And they put them in the cages where they kept the money. They like put them in little cages like dogs, basically. So the robbers. I was duct taped and stuck in a walk-in

freezer. That's pretty fucking scary, too. That's scary, too. It's pretty horrible. This, I mean. Behind,, fucking like those cold metal bars. Yeah, like glimming out. Yeah, they're so pristine. You don't know if they're going to start open firing on you too. That's the point. These people are crazy, right? Right. And one of the guys too had a stop watch around his neck. Oh, Flava Flav around this place? Not a huge one.

Not a huge one. He's just keeping track. He wasn't smoking crack and everything else. He was the timekeeper and he appeared to be the guy in charge and was directing traffic. You do this, you do this you do that exactly right so the robbers at this point back there they go to the loading dock and back their truck up to the loading dock yeah and start they needed forklifts to get the cash in because there's so much cash they need forklifts to get it onto the truck okay that's how much cash they're trying to steal so 2 40 a.m is when they pull off this is an hour 20 minutes this whole thing took 2 40 a.m they pull off with this is

the largest cash heist in the history of the world the world the world not uk not america not australia europe everybody on the planet of earth the largest cash steal ever how much is it 53 million pounds in cash my god

now think about Goodfellas the Lufthansa heist was like what 4 million and they were like oh my god that was the 70s

but still 53 million pounds which is roughly 93 million dollars my god in cash cash cash money insane largest it's absolutely which is roughly $93 million. My God. In cash. Cash.

Cash money. Insane. Largest. It's absolutely fucking insane. That's so much money. But the thing about it that was crazy was that wasn't all. They didn't take it because that's all they had. Right.

That's all they could fit in their truck. Whoa. They didn't bring a big enough truck. They could have made away with 300 million dollars of us so about 170 million pounds they had on premises they could have taken more money than brad pitt and angie don't need our work our work they could have taken that joe lee they didn't bring a big enough truck imagine the guy who rented the truck dude you the fuck did i tell you i told you to get the fucking bigger one you were like the 18 wheeler how bigwheeler. How big is cash? How big can cash be?

What, they're little, they're skinny. It's like fucking paper. How much can we fit everything in there? No, thanks. Thanks. Now we're 100 million light now. Thanks, asshole. Have you seen how much $3 million is?

I've seen pictures of the Mexican cartel when they confiscate. They post on Instagram. Yeah. When they put, right. I don't know, in the police. Yeah. Mexican cartel when they when they take when they confiscate they post on Instagram and they show how rich they are oh no and the police yeah and you can like

lay down all your family on this brick mattress bed it's a truck of money and it's huge and it's just

three million dollars yeah this is a truck full of money this is fucking fifteen times that insane so much money

this is what they get away with is that unbelievable so all the hostages are unharmed I mean that and they get away yeah. Is that unbelievable? So all the hostages are unharmed. I mean, and they get away. Yeah. That's it.

I mean, one of the guys eventually, somebody eventually slips out of one of the cages and calls the police. And it takes a few hours. And I mean, that's how it works. Nobody's hurt. Now, the next morning is when shit starts to unravel. The next morning, a van is found in a hotel parking lot full of cash. Full of cash. Just loaded to the brim with cash.

Over the next few days, and we'll go over the certain times, police find cars used in the robbery. They find vans. They find cash cages. They find all this shit. They find about 20 million bucks in cash, U.S., in money just around.

They find also, they have Murray's car that he crashed, and they start looking through his that he crashed and they start looking through his cell phone and they find something very interesting. They find They find more than dick pics.

They find way more than dick pics. They find a man who is not fucking about and his plans to not fuck about. So they find a recording apparently either by accident

or something Lee had recorded you know you can turn on the record button what an asshole recorded a call he had with a man named lee russia who's a friend of him and leah russia a friend of his and co-conspirator and a bunch of shit that they do and they have a so they end up with getting a transcription of this call they transcribed this call and basically the the the lawyers murray's lawyers deny that it's even him on the recording which is his phone and it's his voice and everything else so he records his conversation about the robbery in their own words in the

recording murray says quote i can't show my face in there been in the newspapers and on the fucking telly especially when i have my comeback fight. It'll be all over the newspapers. All over the national newspapers. That's not him. That's not Lee Murray. That's somebody else, right? Somebody else, right? No shit. So that's when they were trying to figure out how they would disguise themselves and things like that. The police believe

that it's Murray and Ruscha that were the original police impersonators that took Dixon hostage on the road and pulled him over. You need a steely-nerved son of a bitch to be doing that. You need a guy that's not afraid of a fight. Absolutely. And if the guy didn't want to cooperate, he would have made him fucking cool. He would have put him in a coma.

Without a gun. He'd have combed him, no problem. So they also believe that he was the robber they were calling Stopwatch, because of the stopwatch on his neck. They thought that, because by his frame, by his demeanor, they thought that they're pretty sure the guy that's the steely nerve son of a bitch is in charge and also to lots of people start getting busted and i'm sure they know what happened here so uh they find days after the robbery they find a car burned in a field that you want to bring much attention to it this is like craig titus drive it out there and set it on fire no one

will notice these guys stupid pulled off the fire and draws attention in the world yes and they masterminded it brilliantly absolutely

it was perfect and they can't figure out how to fucking dismount what assholes well Bruce Reynolds who is the convicted mastermind of the

1963 great train robbery have you ever heard of that he was the mastermind behind that he said quote that's what happens. All the planning goes into the robbery

and none goes into what happens once you have the money. Right. And that's when shit falls apart. It's like Goodfellas, the Lutonza heist.

What happened? Johnny Roast Beef's buying a fucking fur coat and a giant Cadillac. You can't fucking do that. You gotta fucking live. And he comes in and Jimmy Conway's like,

what the fuck are you doing? Send it back. He's like, it's in my mother's name. He's like, it doesn't matter if it's in your mother's name. You can't be flashing shit around, you fucking idiot. How does your mom have money to fucking buy that, you's like, what the fuck are you doing? Send it back. He's like, it's in my mother's name. He's like, no, it doesn't matter if it's in your mother's name. You can't be flashing shit around,

you fucking idiot. How does your mom have money to fucking buy that, you dummy? That's the problem. Don't be stupid here. So yeah, they're boasting,

they're also boasting to their friends about their involvement because these guys are gangsters trying to act like they're cool and this is, if they would have walked out

with five million bucks, probably wouldn't have been that big of a deal. This was in the news over here all over the world it's the largest cash robbery in the history of the world that's crazy i've never heard any of this me neither but the police are going to want to solve that probably they're probably they don't like it when you show them up basically right and that's the type of thing where you're like you're kind of showing us up with your shit like that you're kind of

dancing in the end zone well yeah come on that's you're twerking in the end zone you can't be doing that you just took the ball and spiked it on our logo at midfield. After you rubbed it on your taint like four times and made a face like you were moaning. That's not right. You just Randy Moss wiped your ass on our goal post. No, I don't remember that. So after a week, a makeup artist named Michelle Hogg, a woman here michelle hogg is arrested and in connection to this whole thing she said that she was too scared to say anything to tell the cops she tells

the cops i'm too scared to tell you who these people are they're gonna kill me blah blah blah blah there was a seven million pound bounty on her head at one point so this broad was smart to think that they were gonna kill her they suspect that she provided the facial hair to the robbers okay and the prosthetics and all that she's a bounty for like for killing her oh they were gonna kill her the gang wanted her dead so she shut the fuck up yeah because she was the first one that was kind of whatever the weak link basically they're looking at her so uh they find a bunch of her makeup that is basically goes which they would have used that night and one of them had they had different names on these

containers of makeup and one of them one of the containers had Lee M written on it that's not great for no wonder they wanted to kill her she messed that one up so the police are also getting DNA off of these all the makeup.

Because she applied it on the face. Yeah, she brushed it on the face. They make three more arrests out of this whole deal. On March 1st, 2006, they arrest John Fowler, Stuart Royal, and Stuart Royal's girlfriend, Kim Shackleton, in connection with the robbery. And they charge them with aiding this and conspiring this and all that sort of thing here. Kidnapping, this sort of shit. Accomplished crimes.

Yeah. So police end up locating both of the vans. One of the vans contained guns, ski masks, bandanas, and 1.3 million pounds in cash. Good grief. Not smart. The police then raid the home. That's a dead giveaway.

That's a dead giveaway. Just the cash or just the home it's a dead giveaway that's a dead giveaway just the cash or just the ski masks maybe but both of them together come on that's like finding Ted Bundy's VW

with the rape kit and DNA fucking all over it and a head in the trunk yeah a fucking head in the trunk holy shit and a photo of him

fucking a dead woman a Polaroid selfie of him like with a map of where the rest of the body is his thumb up and shit terrible so the police where the rest of the body is up and shit terrible so the police sprayed the home of lee russia who's the the second cop that uh was in

in the whole deal here in his bedroom they find plans to the cash depot so that that's a bad sign oh god and in a nearby garage that belongs to him they find a car with 8.6 million pounds of cash they just like littered the town with all the money 8.6 million suppose you're some fucking guy who just breaks into cars yeah and you're like holy shit i just hit the mother load fuck their tape deck fuck that yeah fuck the cd player we are going here i don't care what cd is in there i'm running with this duffel absolutely so uh british somebody get me a forklift that's a giant bag that's a lot of cash that's a trunk full of cash yeah or a boot full of cash that whole car is just like overloaded with it's falling out of the glove box when he

drives away it falls out of the windows like when she and chung drive away like when smoke pours that's the same thing like that geico commercial of the guy on the motorcycle when the flakes of money are just flying off his face. Yeah, falling off everywhere. So, a British crime author, I just love this quote about this one British crime author who writes heist books and shit. He said of them, quote, A gang of misfits and bruisers pulled off the biggest robbery with considerable criminal aplomb, but they were also stupid. That was a brilliant caper which turned into a farce.

That's the most British way to call you a dipshit I've ever heard in my life. He said criminal aplomb and turned into a farce. That's just beautiful. Turning a phrase like a motherfucker. They were fucking about, though. They were fucking about. Afterwards, they fucked all about

fuck that they fucked everything about so now jesus christ so now lee is on the run the dixons the poor dixons and their little son craig and lynn and colin they're fucking traumatized forever the bank of england is 53 million dollars lighter some guy has probably has brain damage from a six-day goddamn coma tito ortiz is forget about it his his fucking psyche is ruined now he's got a lie for the rest of his life he's got a lie his wife has had to watch him maul a man into a coma on christmas fucking day his daughter for christ's sake watched it too and i feel bad yeah for all these people jimmy i feel bad for them i really really do i honestly i feel bad for all these people but not not nearly yeah as bad as i feel this is so great for lee murray a realtor for action rockingham

in in australia he's a 10-time top sales rep in Australia there. Lee Murray, a data science instructor at Galvanize Software in San Francisco, California. Lee Murray of Lee Murray Auctioneers in Wisconsin, Dells, Wisconsin. How do they even find you to hire you, sir? He is Wisconsin registered auctioneer number 53. And the bad part is that Lee was in Wisconsin. Oh yeah, they think he's a murderer. They don't fucking know. Lee Murray, financial advisor for Cary Street Partners in Fredericksburg, Virginia. He has more than a decade of experience as a financial advisor. Look him up if you're in that area.

Probably knows something about a lot of money. Lee Murray, a woman author of science fiction and fantasy from New Zealand. She wrote a book called A Dash of Reality, which he could use. I looked through all her book titles to find one that fucking, to find one that went with this story. I am such a fucking idiot. She's written a million books, too.

I was looking through the title like a lunatic. Lee Murray, M.D., neurologist serving the western Tennessee area. Wow. And finally, Lee Murray, the atmospheric chemist and climate modeler for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration in New York City.

They could have used him. I feel like that smart fuck could have figured out what to do with all that money. How not to get arrested. How not to leave nine million pounds in your car. Yeah, that probably would have been smart. They could have used somebody to say that. So, February 25th, 2006 2006 now this is just a few days later murray fucking takes off he's gone yeah he's the country he's got an ass full of cash and

he's hitting the road he does he goes to morocco he takes paul the enforcer alan yeah the guy who threw the punch at at tito artis's friend that started that melee and his childhood buddy there. They take him and put them, they put their car on a ferry to France. They float over to France. From France, they go to Amsterdam, to Spain, across the straits of Gibraltar, and to Morocco. Wow. From there. Yeah, they're just going on a vacation here. We're out of here.

No, no, a little holiday. How romantic. And they've got plenty of money to cover the gas. And they go to Morocco because if your father is born in Morocco, guess what you are? A Moroccan citizen.

Yes. You're a Moroccan citizen which also makes you not be able to be extradited to the UK because there's no extradition agreement between the two countries.

Oh, shit. So that's why he takes off to Morocco. So he could why he takes off to Morocco. So he could have figured that shit out earlier. He had it figured out. Okay. Just shit unraveled around him. I don't know if he meant to do that. I bet he did.

That was the plan, but it seems like that was probably the plan. It would be smart to just go lay low, find somewhere to go lay low. He buys a $1.5 million house in Morocco in an upscale neighborhood around the corner from the king's cousin that's the type of like diplomats and shit like that live in here 1.5 it's like a million pounds 1.5 million dollars for this in rabat which is the capital city of morocco uh he uh his home he has it spends another like fucking half a million dollars putting hot tubs in and you know marble tile and shit like that and a giant life-sized life-sized mural of his one and only ufc fight against rivera what against rivera his ufc fight that he won painted on his living room wall wow the entire fucking what a

douche what a douchebag that is so douchey here's my mountain top he painted. The entire fucking wall. What a douche. What a douche bag. That is so douchey. Here's my mountaintop. He painted it on his fucking wall. Some of these guys, they keep it in them and you can see it. This guy literally painted it on his wall. He wanted to look at it

every day. Anyone who comes over, he said, do you want to see when I was at my best? Mountaintop right here. Now I'm in Morocco. I might be in a mansion

but I'm still in Morocco. Think about like, in Morocco, that kind of money probably goes a very long way. I think it does. I think it does. Now, the British at this point ask the Moroccan officials to keep an eye on him because they know he's involved in this and they want him.

So they watch him for the next few months. Let's find out what he's up to during this while they're watching him. This is from an article from The Sun, this U.K. paper that went down there. Somebody, a friend of theirs, found out what's going on. Here's the quote from this article. This is him and Paul Allen. They staged nightly Coke and champagne orgies

with prostitutes at the $1 million villa they shared. Murray blew a fortune on other properties and flashed cars as loot was laundered in casinos and invested in narcotics. The chums thought nothing of splurging on boob jobs and cosmetic surgeries for their malls,

splashing out 17,000 pounds at a time. What an idiot. So they're just living like sultans, basically. They're living like lunatics. Where's his wife and kid? In England still.

He left them there. Yeah, they had to run. Wow. He's out there partying with prostitutes the fuck's he need a baby what's he need lily jane for you know he's an asshole anyway prostitutes don't look how he wants he'll put tits on him let's just say it's better for the we're making a distinction if you're if the father's shitty it's better they leave when they're two and we're

happy he's gone at this point so uh june 23rd 2006 this is back in England now, not in Morocco, police stop two cars on the road, and they recover $1 million in cash and charge two men with money laundering out of the two cars. There are two people involved in that. Now, June 25, 2006, Murray and Allen are in a mall, in a shopping mall, shopping, pissing money away in Rabat. Yeah, it's a mega mall. They call it in Rabat. And they're shopping.

Them and two other men were shopping. And the four of them were arrested because they had dozens of police officers seal the place off, the mall off, because they know these guys are badasses. They don't know if they're armed and they know they're great fighters and they don't want to fight them, basically.

So they come with a small army and they still't want to fight them basically so they come with a small army and they still try to fight them off. They still resist but they're eventually taken into custody. They didn't have guns

on them at the time. Holy shit. Basically, they were fighting back though beating up the charged assaulting police officers. A Moroccan judge

said they were quote, beating and humiliating members of the security forces. So that's not cool over there. They're not okay with that. They were showboating. Yeah, they're showboating over there. Then he jumped on members of the security forces. So that's not cool. They're not okay with that. They were showboating.

Yeah, they're showboating over there. Then he jumped on top of the cage and put his arms up. Said, we're not fucking about. We're not fucking about. Murray at this point. So they arrest him. They check his house. He's got a shitload of cocaine at the house.

Of course. And some weed too. But he's got a shitload of cocaine. So they arrest him for cocaine possession and resisting arrest and assaulting police officers now fall of 2006 this is a few months later back in england the makeup artist michelle hogg turns queen's evidence so that means she is spilling the beans basically she's protected she explains how she made the disguises who she made them for which one went to who so now they can pick them out from the camera shit uh this was an exchange for her freedom obviously um so

they try to uk at this point they arrested him and they're going to try to extradite him now there's extradition thing attempts of at extradition are going on for go on for a couple years now wow okay uh murray claims his moroccan nationality and may agree uh his attorney says that as attorney says he has full right to asylum there yeah the the brits say that he could get he could only get uh 10 years if he's tried in morocco because they could also try him for the british crimes in morocco the moroccan government if they agree to do that really yeah but he might only get 10 years and they want him to get more they want more saying he's the mastermind of the whole thing so he's stopwatch absolutely now murray attorney here and and fucking silver-haired middle-aged white man extraordinaire

said quote the relationship between the king of morocco and his subjects is strong that there is no way that any court will give a decision to extradite him. Anybody whose father is Moroccan is Moroccan. According to what he tells me, he had nothing to do with this robbery. So, bullshit. Where did he get all this money? That's silver-haired. That's the other thing, too. Later on, a reporter asks him, you know,

what was the first thing he did when he got all that money? When he got out of there, was it like, yeah, I'm going to go buy this? What did you do? And he laughed and said, I was a millionaire long before the heist, my man. That was his quote. So he's like, dude. I pretended like I'd been there before because I was. I put it in my trunk and I didn't buy a fucking, I didn't buy a mink coat that year.

Right. To look good. So yeah, he's, basically they say that, you know, when he was born, he's a Moroccan. Because his father was Moroccan. So, February of 2007, this is insane. British authorities are so desperate to get him back, they offer to exchange suspected terrorist Mohamed Karbouzy for Murray. They're going to trade a suspected terrorist,

a terrorist that the Moroccans want because he's a Moroccan. They want to try him down there. That's how much this money means to them. It's not even the money they just they need to show that that if you mastermind that and arc we will take yeah it's one of those things it's it's just it's an ego thing for the cops they're they don't know if they're gonna get the money back so now february they're not they're not they got a bunch of it they end up recovering about 20 million pounds out of that so that's like more than a third that's not too shabby honestly 53 is what they took yeah they got that's not bad they got almost half's like more than a third. That's not too shabby, honestly. 53 is what they took?

Yeah. That's not bad. They got almost half. That's not bad, I think. You know, shit. Not too shabby. So February 2007, Murray is sentenced to eight months in jail for the cocaine and resisting arrest in Morocco.

Yeah. So that's still what he's doing down there. Those are his charges down there. Now, back in England again. Let's bounce back there. January 28, 2008, five defendants are found guilty in the heist.

Now they're starting to prosecute these people, including Lee Arusha, his buddy there. Don't say a fucking, not the wife, the guy who was with him. Oh, yeah, the other guy, right.

Yeah. The other cop. The other cop, exactly. Between these five, they're given over 140 years in prison between them. Oh, they aren't fucking about. Yeah. The judge is not fucking about. No, they're given over 140 years in prison between them oh they aren't split it up yeah it's the judge is not fucking no they're not fucking about a seven month trial this was with over 200 witnesses that is not fucking about no that is they got their

ducks in a row and said we are convicting these people 200 people they made sure yeah there's no doubt of what happened um also the dons, the poor manager and his family, little Greg and poor Lynn, they go into protective witness custody also because they're scared shitless of these people, as they should be. And they probably have nightmares. I don't blame them.

Now, the most English-named man I've ever heard who's a prosecutor for the Crown told the press this after court. His name is Nigel pilkington i'm sorry that's like i fucking made it up guys seriously i come on he was a monocle nigel pilkington holy fucking shit wow it's like the original english name oh my god nigel pilkington nigel he never doesn't have tea in his head and a saucer and he has terrible tea off the worst holy shit so he tells that he tells us here quote the crime was at heart a crime

of violence this is not the end of the matter for these criminals we intend to seize their ill-gotten gains wherever they may be so god damn it we're taking these fuckers down they're ill-gotten gains they're over so uh at this point a reporter does a piece for espn and he asks a stupid question but i thank you for this guy for doing this article there's a lot of good information and uh sean asiel does an espn piece on murray can't get a hold of murray in jail over there even though he's in prison he still can't get a hold of me flies to london talk to his friends says that murray had already talked to everyone he talked to basically like knew he was there and told them not to talk to him murray won't talk to anybody none of his friends will put the reporter in contact with murray um they says they they basically say that lee asked them the reporter not to the reporter also wanted to talk to his wife and Lee told all of his friends to tell him

their wives are off limits. Can't talk to my wife, basically. That's not going to happen. They all tell him in this article that Murray's trying to get a movie made about his life that actually Darren Aronofsky signs on to do. It would be a great movie. Darren Aronofsky signs on to do the movie. That's how much of it was going to be a big, giant hit

and it ends up not getting made because he pulled out because he didn't want to fuck up his case over there basically. He thought it would interfere I mean, that's how much of it was going to be a big, giant hit. And it ends up not getting made. It will be made eventually. He pulled out because he didn't want to fuck up his case over there, basically. He thought it would interfere. And I think he wants to see how it plays out. Telling the story is better if you see how it plays out in the end. Let's see how he dies. What do you say?

So basically, they're all telling him about his love of American gangster movies and all that shit. They're just trying to give him anecdotal shit about him, basically. They talk to Mark Epstein, his childhood buddy there. And Epstein calls Murray in Moroccan prison and gets a hold of him right away on his cell phone. Because Murray's got a cell phone in Moroccan prison. Absolutely. Absolutely. Tells the reporter that Murray isn't ready to talk, but he says that he can ask him one question.

So this guy says he froze. He didn't know what to ask. He says that he can ask him one question. So this guy this guy says he froze. He didn't know what to ask. He didn't want to ask him did you do it? Right. I thought that would be like a shit question.

All that's going to be is no. So he froze and the first thing that came to him is what is your favorite movie? That's it. Like a douchebag who doesn't know what to say on a blind date.

Like what's your favorite movie then? Like an asshole on Match.com's like invite to chat. He said Gotti, The Bank Job and Scarface in an asshole on Match.com's invite to chat. He said, Gotti, The Bank Job, and Scarface, in case you're curious. He gave him three. It's a tie, is what he told him. So three shitty movies. I overdid it with my answers.

There you go. Gotta go. That's all you get. Have a good one. So Epstein says that he thinks that he won't get extradited back to the UK at this point because he still thinks he might slip out from under these charges. He says, quote, he's like a cat. He's got nine lives.

I've seen him get out of some major scrapes. So he's like, I got confidence in this guy. He's a bad motherfucker. In Moroccan jail, when they finally figure out what he's doing, he's in solitary over there while he's awaiting whatever. He's writing letters to Miletic and other fighters back and forth.

Trying to line up his next date. Yeah, they're just, he's bored. He's talking to people like, hey, how's it going over here? He says, of prison, in their own words, he's not, he's fine with it, obviously. He says, quote, everybody is respectful, especially the guards. They joke about stuff and treat me like a friend from the outside. Offer me to eat with them. It's better than being in a UK prison any day.

He's just fine. He's like, I'm good. It's gorgeous here. I'm good now. It's fine. This is good. He's got all sorts of shit. He gets busted June 15, 2009.

He has a little bit of a scrape with the Moroccan prison police here. He gets caught with a laptop with internet. He's not allowed to have the internet. He can have a phone. He can have TV, DVDs,vds even porn as they say he's got porn in his cell because if you're good apparently and if you slip a guy a couple of bucks because he even says you know we make in a day they make in a month these guards he's like so he basically you know sort of hinted like i get special treatment because i throw them a couple bucks. I make their lives better. He also had a laptop with internet he got caught with. Oh, and five kilos of cocaine.

What? Five kilos of cocaine. In prison? That's so much money. That's a shitload of cocaine in prison. You can't slip that in up somebody's ass. No. You've got to carry that in your belly.

In a fucking bag or something. You have to like have that in a fat suit. Jesus Christ, I would say so. So he's moved to a different cell.. So he's moved to a different cell. So while he's moved to a different cell, another prisoner who didn't like him because he had fancy shit went in to try to steal some of his shit. Oh no, that was a bad idea.

Well, he finds a plate of biscuits, cookies for you US people, with a bunch of small saws in them. He has a bunch of tiny little saws that he's going to saw the bars off with. And it makes sense because over the last few months, he's been starving himself, Lee Murray,

and getting thinner and thinner and thinner so he could fit through the bars. Wow. Literally so he could fit through the goddamn bars. Unbelievable. He's been losing weight. He's a slippery son of a bitch. They said that about him.

Yeah, that's right. He's got nine lives. He was going to saw the bars off with these little saws and do this insane right like billy the kid so at this point he's busted he's first of all he's in a moroccan prison which seems as low as you get but now he's busted for cocaine and trying to get this shit i mean when they put him in the solitary cell after that the other cell if it wouldn't surprise me if when he walked in the shawarma man was there and he said how is it how how is it you've come to arrive here huh why are you here why are you here signs say close signs say close you come anyway why are you here i don't know i don't understand why i

don't even want to make you shawarma. No shawarma. I make you shawarma. I make for you. I make for you. I make. I make. It's fine. You want lamb?

I give you lamb. Sign say close. You come. Why you come? Oh, this is so fun. Shawarma man apologized last week. You know, it's... I come...

I couldn't... Stanley Wilson. I could be around Stanley Wilson. No good. Too much... The cocaine. Shawarma man has a problem. Shawarma man used to have problem. Let's just say, shawarma man have problem in past. around Stanley Wilson, no good, the cocaine. Schwarmaman has a problem?

Schwarmaman used to have problems. Let's just say, Schwarmaman had a problem and passed. Schwarmaman got passed at that point. I say I can't be, I know myself, I know can't be around.

That's why I say, no, sorry Stanley, no sorry. No steamer. I say sorry Jimmy, sorry James, crime and sports, sorry,

I no can be there this week. Sign say close, serious, sign say close, I can't come. No sorry, I can't go. So he there this week sign say close serious sign say close I can't come no sorry I can't go so he's there shawarma man's there

June 24th 2009 he's released from a Moroccan prison what? because he served his time for the drugs and the assault

he's released from a Moroccan prison he walks out the door and June 24th same day 2009 he's re-arrested by the Moroccans. Same day. They literally took him to court. And they said, yes, you're a Moroccan national.

You're free to go. He walks out of the court. They arrested him again. Took him right back in. So he's right back in. The British are trying to extradite him. His attorney said that, quote, Lee was indeed rearrested right away because the british and the british authorities did put in a formal request to the moroccan authorities to have him

tried in morocco for the alleged robbery so they're gonna try they're gonna try him down there uh now this when they bust him they still have paul allen he's not a moroccan citizen the uh the old enforcer here gets extradited back to the uk tried and sentenced to 18 years in jail so he's fucked uh emar uh haisen edge the inside man with the belt buckle camera ends up getting 20 years for his part he got most he got 20 yeah he's fucked so uh the mother barbara at this point barbara murray lee murray's mother here says she talks to the press in 2009 she's a character this lady she said quote if he had those millions he'd have paid the judges off and bought himself out of there by now everything

in morocco works on bribes you can pay anyone off do you think i'd still be living here and going to work if lee had all that money that lady's great she's just a drunk old british lady i don't care you think i'd be working and shit no i'd be so drunk i'd be pissing myself in my own living room so june 2010 murray is sentenced to 10 years in moroccan prison all right for the uk cash heist right seems normal so he's in prison he's hanging out there this is in june he gives an interview via text message at this point to somebody that's weird because he can text from a rock in prison. Yeah.

He says, the only thing I found of any interest, it was all about UFC shit. And then finally the guy asked him whether, because there are, now people are wearing at this point free Lee Murray t-shirts around him. Really? He's got fans? Yeah, he's a crazy person. And he had this huge heist. He's a famous. Folklore. Oh, he is like Dillinger now.

I mean, they have free Lee Murray, so the guy said, if I send you a free Lee Murray T-shirt, will you wear it? And he says, quote, in their own words, would I wear it? I'd look like a right cunt walking around the prison wearing a free me T-shirt. I would wear a free OJ one if you sent me that.

Smiley face. You had to put an emoji because it's a fucking text message unreal right so funny i'd wear a free oj shirt so he looks like a right gun right cut after all this that's the thing that makes him a biggest ad the biggest asshole of any of it so november 30th 2010 he has an appeal of his sentence and the brits are also asking the moroccans can they give him more time since there's apparently over there if you appeal something you can get less time you might also get more it's like that in england too remember the gavin grant case they did that so appeals are risky over there it's not you have something to lose right so he is

they should adopt that in america it'd be i don't think i like that a lot but it's that's awesome well what if yeah i don't know there's there's some cases that might not be the best so anyway they're asking for more so the moroccans oblige and they say fuck it have another 15 lee you sir may fuck off he got 25 25 in the can now oh my god they're stuck in there that makes you not want to appeal again. Yeah, you're like, I'm good. I'm good now. I'm good now. I'm good in a whole different way.

I am definitely not fucking about ever again. Definitely not. So January 2012, a couple years go by, it is discovered by prison officials and the world that Lee has fathered a child from prison. What? Okay. It's believed that he impregnated a woman in January 2010.

The baby was born in October 2010. Not his wife. Now, in Morocco, they will allow conjugal visits. If you're a good behavior and if you throw a couple bucks in the thing, they'll allow conjugal visits, but only with your wife because they're pretty strict down there. So what did they do? It's strict, and they said marriage documentation

has to be given and everything like that. So he forged that shit? I don't know. He just paid somebody a little extra and had some broad come in, and he was fucking plowing her in the other cell there. So they moved him to his high security unit. He had all his luxuries taken away,

cell phone, DVDs, no visitors, nothing. His child, like like i said born in kent england in 2010 it was an english woman coming down there coming down to morocco yep listed on the birth certificate as the father and they are she's now denying it she's going no just because it's on there doesn't mean it's she literally said just because it's on the birth certificate doesn't mean that it's true what the fuck did you write it for do you know someone else that's writing people's names down? Who should I put as the father?

How about that prisoner in Morocco? I think he'd make a good guy. The guy that was the largest heist in the world history. Absolutely. I'll make him be the father. Before we close this out, let's get a quote from Lee Murray. And actually, too, he's saying he's been training now, like recently. He's fought hundreds of sparring rounds.

He said he spars constantly. There's a couple guys down there that he can spar with. Right. And he wants to fight again. And he's saying that he's probably going to get released soon. Because if they're going on a UK-based sentence, Paul Allen just got out of prison. What? Paul Allen was released after six years in prison. So he's saying, well, he just got out on six years and he had 18.

I got 25 now and I've already done this. We're fucking, I'm going to get out soon. We're square as far as I'm concerned. He's literally trying to set up a fight. Wow. With Reed. Reed is his name. Meanwhile, he's 39 right now.

Yeah, he's trying to set up a fight because I'm sure he just wants, I don't know, attention. Yeah. So he says this sums up everything of him right here. In their own words, him summing up everything, his whole life. It's the most beautiful thing. In their own words, quote, The day is written for me when I'm going to die. My day is written and that's the way I believe.

It's not changing what I do in my life. I think the day is already written for when I'm going to die and that's that. I don't think I can change the way I am. That's me. If I wasn't like that, I wouldn't be the fighter I am and I wouldn't be who I am.

He's like, I am's what I am's. That's it. He pulled a fucking Popeye. Just, I am's what I am's. I am's what I am's. I am's what I am's.

Meanwhile, I think the day you were supposed to die was the day you were stabbed in the fucking chest. In the heart and head? Yeah, probably. That was the day. You're on borrowed time, sir. Here's something great. LondonShootFighters.com. That was the first gym you went to. They have a website, ShootFighters.com.

They have a profile of all their fighters. They have a profile still up of Lee Murray, and it reads, holy fuck, this is amazing. It reads, quote, Jesus, I can't even get it out of the straight face. Quote, Lee is known as one of the world's most dangerous middleweight fighters. He is currently on hiatus taking time off in Morocco. No, he's not. Okay, no, he's not. Prison is not a fucking hiatus, okay?

It's not. I got a feeling the World Boxing Federation didn't have Mike Tyson up there. Holy shit. Taking a hiatus. No. In Urban Dictionary dictionary there is a freely murray entry where they explain who he is and he's he's too much of a badass to be in any prison basically and it's all about the tito ortiz thing he's legendary is like the baddest motherfucker on earth basically this guy i mean it's he's known don't they have like action bronson in england and i don't know anymore. That guy with the beard that's the most

feared man in prison. This guy is just as bad. And also, too, if you cannot get enough of Lee Murray and you want to show support for Lee Murray, you can go on Facebook, Lee Murray, quote, the lightning fan club. There's a fan club on there.

Absolutely. How many people are members of it i did not see i need to look at that that's fucking amazing that's lee murray holy shit and he may get out someday he's good that guy is gonna come and find us and we are fucked so guys he will not be fucking about no he will not be fucking about at all he's gonna be fucking fucking us about and it's gonna to be terrible. So wow, guys, that's Lee Murray. He's a blast, man. I have sweat on my brow. So do I. That was a lot of fuckery. The noodnickery filled the room, man. I'm telling you guys. Like 53 million pounds would. Absolutely. So we're going to do some shout outs in a second here. First,

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