Crime in Sports - #390 - Slamming, Stabbing & Sobbing - The Horrors of Brian McGhee

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

This week, we slam our way into the new year with a wrestler, who almost made it to the top, but his personality set him back. He seemed to lose his mind, when he was released by WWE, but a y...ear later, he really unravels. A sudden & brutal murder, in front of the neighbors. Will he pay the price?Perform for independent wrestling companies with silly names, bubble under the surface with anger, have a pollice dog finally take you down with Brian McGhee AKA DT Porter AKA Donovan Ruddick!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:01 Jimmy's going to fuck your name up royally while trying desperately to get it correct you should see the look on his face he wants it bad sheer panic he really is i mean his eyes are shuffling back and forth he's really trying he's not just like oh no no he wants it it's the same anxiety i get at a drive-thru do you ever get that oh yeah oh jesus god I'm so flustered. I'm like, I'm so sorry I'm wasting your time. I don't know what I want. This is hilarious because we both have that, but we're also people who are given a microphone and say, go up there now.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Go talk. Oh, no problem. It's playing. You got to get out there. Ah, easy. No problem. Sure. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:04:42 What? I just woke up. Hey, everybody. No problem. Welcome to talk about how may I help you. I don't know yet. Oh, my God. You can't even see me. there ah easy no sure yeah all right what i just woke up well yeah hey everybody no problem welcome to talk about how may i help you i don't know yet oh my god you can't even see me it's just a disembodied voice doesn't matter i'm in a panic i'm in a panic i don't know yeah i'll just take a crunch wrap supreme i guess it's some of everything y'all got fiestas y'all got mozzarella cheese sticks i think that's why she did that it's the same anxiety i don't know i want mozzarella she came in brimming with confidence she said
Starting point is 00:05:14 this is a wild wonderful white she said ah i'll have some of them fiestas y'all got mozzarella cheese sticks and she didn't give a fuck she was like i'll take an arby's beef and cheddar she was just ordering shit from other restaurants she literally ordered a party i'll have a party please but that does sound like something taco bell would name an item she just that's a spanish word she heard and is like that must be food well gordita means fat girl that must be crazy it's gotta be food shit why else would i know the word unless it was food that was confident so we'll get right into this here with our asshole of the week and this guy's a real asshole i mean oh a super huge asshole and an
Starting point is 00:06:07 i mean immediate uh contender for scumbag of the year for next year right out of the gate out of the bay we gotta start off hot that's the thing here um not a ton of information on this guy this will be a shorter episode but what he did was wild was wild. It's insane and just a really weird, weird case. So let's talk about him. His name is Brian McGee, and that's M-C-G-H-E-E. Oh, that's a fun spelling. He did all the letters possible for McGee. You go, what is that, M-C?
Starting point is 00:06:40 No, is it M-G? No, M-C-A? Is he a baseball player? No, he's not. That's Willie McGee you're thinking of. There he is. Yeah. From the Padres?
Starting point is 00:06:48 No, from the Cardinals. Cardinals. Remember long neck Willie McGee? Yeah. He looked like a surprised puppet all the time. Like people have puppets that have long necks and kind of googly eyes that look surprised. That's what Willie McGee looked like all the time. But fucking good player though.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Good center fielder for the Cardinals. 51 I think was his number as a matter of fact. james jesus i think he was 51 what's his favorite hobby you son of a bitch why do you know him so well baseball cards you might know his hobby then sometimes that's the thing as a kid like i was a baseball card lunatic so that would be he might collect bugs j. Jesus. Had lots of baseball cards of William McGee. He could name anybody from like 1988. And I'm like, oh, yeah, he was here and there. And then he played for eight years before that. The back of their baseball card will come to my mind, which is helpful.
Starting point is 00:07:35 A great time. Great time to be alive to learn about a person. I love the back of the baseball cards that would have all the information. Well, I wish I had one on this guy because we don't have a ton of information. And he's a wrestler, which makes it worse because you don't know what's a lie. You don't know what's part of this. They're secretive in the first place. That's the problem here for him.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And Brian McGee's got a couple of ring names that we'll talk about. One of them is really stupid because it's the name of somebody else. So he just stole a name from another person, which we'll talk about. Let's get into this here. I don't. He's from St. Louis. And in wrestling, it says he's from Queens, which we'll get into why he says that in my mind, because he's stealing someone else's identity. And they were from long story.
Starting point is 00:08:23 But OK, we'll get into that. All right. Remind me to do that. So he's huge. He's a gigantic man. Yeah. He is six foot seven, 270 pounds,
Starting point is 00:08:33 gigantic, huge dude. And later on when the cops are after him, the description of him goes out and you go, well, that's not going to be hard to find. This should take a 10. Literally. It's giant black guy, six foot seven shoulder length dreads 275 pounds not a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:51 that walking around in this area yeah anywhere you see a gigantic man with fucking shoulder like dreads just have a chit chat with him if you you see somebody who you absolutely wouldn't fight, that's the guy maybe. So go up to him. So from all I know is he's from St. Louis, and this is one of those where, you know, you could have made up a childhood, but it's so recent and, you know, it's hard to make up. It's easier to make up childhoods if a guy's from, like, Sweden or something or Belgium. I can go, yeah. Yeah, I can make up anything, and it sounds believable. But know this guy was born in uh 1984 in st louis so there's really not much to make up yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:09:32 absolutely yeah younger than both of us he's uh february 3rd 1984 he's born and from what i understand this is again i don't know if this is what he would use as part of his like promos and gimmick yeah or if this is true or both because sometimes people use real shit and they sure you know but new jack used fucking kind of real shit just he was always like yeah you know so he says he was an outcast as a child i don't know if that's true or not. And really, there's no way to tell. He's giant. So, you know. I'd include him. I would include him also.
Starting point is 00:10:12 But then again, we also dealt with Luther Wright a few weeks back. Right. Good point. Who was gigantic. But he was like. Bullied for it. Freakish gigantic, though. He was like seven foot fucking two. So, I mean, that's a different kind of huge.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And he said he was teased and bullied. Which, I mean, he's enormous. Who the hell is teasing that? He didn't have dreads down to his shoulders and looking cool. Yeah. At that size, you don't get bullied. I wouldn't imagine so. You could be teased.
Starting point is 00:10:39 You can certainly bully back, and you're going to win, I think. There's definitely a point where you can make it stop, I would assume. You make an example out of somebody, and that'll be that. There is that little video of that Australian kid that was picking on the bigger kid. The big kid finally just had enough and picked the little kid up and threw him to the ground. Just tossed him. He just used gravity. He didn't even hit him.
Starting point is 00:11:01 If you're that fucking four times stronger than another person that's why are you doing anything really crush you do you realize you don't realize you don't know about gravity yeah and just about it size and physics unless you're a very skilled combatant don't fuck with someone who's twice your size that's just stupid i just pick you up and then let gravity do the rest even in boxing they, like, if it's two heavyweights and they're equally skilled, the bigger man's got the advantage. That's all there is to it. It's like, what if neither of you have any skills? Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:11:36 That's a problem. He can just fall on you. Yeah. So he says it was because he didn't have a lot of money, I guess. His family didn't have a lot of money is what he said. And again, I don't know if this is part of his character or whatever it is but he said that once he got to high school this all changed which makes me think you were picked on what is fourth grade bullying really and picking on it's nothing it's high schools when it gets
Starting point is 00:11:59 like sadistic because people have passed puberty and they have weird shit in their heads. And they have insecurities about themselves. And it's pecking order for girls at that point. It all gets weird. Whereas in the fourth grade, it's a little bit different. Fourth grade, it's just like, I don't even understand what this thing is that is growing off of me. Yeah, I don't know why I have a boner. I'm going to go stand over there. Why does this keep happening?
Starting point is 00:12:26 I got to go. It keeps happening. It won't stop, god damn it. Damn it. So he said then he became an athlete and was involved in sports, and he said then he was fine. Everybody was...
Starting point is 00:12:41 Because he's also enormous, again. Once he's in high school, he's 6'7", and a giant, and a thick-framed dude, too. and everybody was because he's also enormous again once he's in high school he's six foot seven and a giant and a thick frame dude too so it's like he is not the guy your first guy you're gonna fucking pick on at all here so here is something from i believe yeah he's i as of christmas of 2000 this is from the st louis post dispatchDispatch. He was at Academy High School in St. Louis, or Career Academy High School is the name of it, which sounds like a strip mall. Yeah. There's a lot of.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Sounds like he didn't make it in the normal school. Yes. It sounds like one of those strip mall charter schools in Arizona. Yeah. Arizona has a lot of like, oh, that used to be a drug store. That used to be an Osco drugs and now it's career academy high or accelerated learning center yeah and you're like that's what's going on what yeah what's happening in there which is crazy because the the least accelerated people went there and you look it's all just kids that
Starting point is 00:13:38 have been thrown out of school that go to those particular strip mall schools i know there's other ones that are different but that's not the point we're making we're talking about strip mall schools. I know there's other ones that are different, but that's not the point we're making. We're talking about strip mall Phoenix high schools. Then there was Polaris that was that other high school, night school. People went to night high school, James. People that were like children still? They were still high school students, but they couldn't make it regular day because they're baby. school students but they couldn't make it regular day because well their baby night night school's like on a sitcom in the 80s or 90s like somebody didn't get their diploma so they were going to night school to get their high school diploma they were like 34 and they worked in an office
Starting point is 00:14:15 and all this type of shit most of them were 17 year old girls or 17 year old boys that the girl had a baby and now or somebody had a baby and now they got to do it at night because during the day they're working their job. I was just going to say, girls who have had babies and the boys who have knocked them up, that's who's there. That's exactly what it is. That's who's there. It's like family high school. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:38 They go to work and they meet at the high school afterwards. How was your shift? Mine sucked. It sucked. Of course it did. We're children. You want to put the kid down? there's cribs in the back this is a mess of course it sucked we're our children we shouldn't be doing this we should have better jobs to be able to raise children god damn it why do we do this so this this day there's a list of all the people here and it's he's it doesn't seem to be doing that great
Starting point is 00:15:06 the scoring leaders he averages uh 10.5 points a game here at this point he's playing basketball yeah he's playing basketball so that doesn't seem that great um and rebound points a game 10 points a game 10 point in high school that's not terrific if you're a star player it doesn't you're not dominating the other children but he also averages 8.8 rebounds a game and he leads all of the high school area here or his little fucking whatever the hell division or what's it called district district or whatever the fuck uh with 3.75 blocks per game oh shit so yeah he's a defense and uh rebounds and blocks kind of guy oh yeah so yeah that's what he's all about he's he's a big tough guy i mean yeah he's a guy that'll bump you right out of the way under the war under the boards but apparently he goes into the navy in 2002
Starting point is 00:15:59 he's in the navy for a while that's a fascinating fascinating time to join. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's joining up to get into some shit. You know what I mean? That's like joining up in 42. You're joining up with purpose. This isn't just, I don't know what to do with myself. Maybe I'll go in the Army for a couple of years and get some college money. He heard about an event and was like, I'm in.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah, all right. Yeah, I want that. So he's in the Navy navy which whenever i say anybody's in the navy it always makes me think of christmas again christmas vacation because we just watched it this in the last month everybody did where what's her name the old lady the that comes over the aunt there oh uh bethany is rusty still in the navy that's the way she says that cracks me up he's 12 yeah that and my friend that's the voice of betty boop that's amazing isn't it yeah and she's that's wild and felix the cat wild that she's still alive what absolutely baffling i can't believe hilarious though yeah maybe the best portrayed character ever. Is Rusty still in the Navy?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Grace! Yeah, I love her. Grace. The blessing! The blessing! Get it over with. Unbelievable. That's a great couple.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That and my friend who used to start half his stories with so when i was a wall from the navy which was that's a great way to start a story yeah so i'm a wall from the navy right yeah okay i'm in i'm in right away and a lot of i'm already you know going by a different name i'm going by an alias and uh I'm already going by a different name. I'm going by an alias. I'm kind of avoiding cops. Some people are looking for me. You know what I mean? So I can't go to my normal relative's houses and things like that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I'm staying in a cheap motel, right? So he's in the Navy. He gets out of the Navy in 2004. So I think he does 2002, 2003, and 2004. So like a three-year deal in the Navy here. Or a two-year. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly why he took off or if he was kicked out or no one knows. Hey, that's possible too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I have no records here of this. When we hear what an asshole he is, it's possible, I would say, that they would give him the heave-ho. Maybe they said no more. Would give him the heave-ho. Not only because he seems very unstable, as we'll talk about, because not only what his major crime is, but also the things that lead up to it are, yeah, when things don't go right for him, he just really flies off the deep end and starts posting on Facebook about it
Starting point is 00:18:42 and shit, which is fun. Yes, that is great. It's a lot of fun. When someone just has and starts posting on Facebook about it and shit, which is fun. Yes, that is great. It's a lot of fun. When someone just has stream of consciousness on Facebook and then later on says, oh, I was hacked. That wasn't even me. You're like, really? Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 With the perfect timing of when the thing happened to you, someone outside of there knew that and, oh, okay, and they also had the skills to hack you at the same time and they know you that well. So from 2004, he starts, and then I guess for a few years, I don't know, it's kind of nebulous when he stops doing this. He is the assistant manager of a St. Louis pawn shop. Oh. oh which how many of our we do a show about athletes that get in trouble and a lot of these athletes are you know tapped from eight years old with greatness and they never manage a st louis
Starting point is 00:19:33 pawn shop that's that that comes later you know after they've gotten out of prison and they've sort of kicked their crack habit then they'll manage a st louis pawn shop for a while usually not beforehand though yeah so that's only been in a pawn shop once in my life and i'm not even like the pawn stars one those places are frightening oh it's just guns and guitars that's all they have and power tools and power tools yeah guns guitars and shit stolen from construction sites shit with no serial number that's that's what they have at the pawn shop i've been in i've been in a couple disturbing i was in the i went in the one on cave creek road the big the yellow that's the one i went yeah it's gigantic and it's right there and it's yellow you can't miss it outside it's phoenix so
Starting point is 00:20:22 it's nuclear flash bright i mean mean, let's be real. There's not a cloud in the sky. The building is eye-searingly yellow. And it's on a corner of a road that turns, so it, like, it fucks with your eyesight as you have a blind turn. You have to. You're just like, ah, you stop there. Like, someone's watch just reflected in your face. And then you open the door, and you in like a wisconsin basement and you're
Starting point is 00:20:46 like what the fuck just happened it's pitch black in there it's just there's guns and dusty and bows and power tools and people are drinking beer and you're like what's going on in here i was looking for maybe a drill press do you guys have those i got 12 of them out back what they're like five grand yeah yeah that's the other thing why did you buy half this shit how many guitars are you gonna sell it's not a guitar store do you are people coming in just clamoring for guitars from this place all of them have a story there's that's clint black's guitar what why do you have yeah no it's not yeah how can you prove that i want 200 bucks for it okay we have the cops dust it for fingerprints yeah
Starting point is 00:21:31 clints are all over it okay that and assault rifles that's what phoenix is basically unbelievable truly do i want the guy that used to i want to croon or shoot i met the guy that owned that place filthy fucking rich man absolutely there's a bunch Do I want to croon or shoot? Can't decide. I met the guy that owned that place. Filthy fucking rich man. Absolutely. There's a bunch of those, too. There's several locations.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And a bizarre man. Bizarre. Really? Owns a bunch of pawn shops in Phoenix. Bizarre, you say. Like 58 years old with his hat turned sideways. No, I don't know. I don't see it, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Nope. Upstanding gentleman, I feel like. In a Bentley Azura. Yep, that's the guy. With a little fridge in it that's packed with nothing but energy drinks. Whatever the douchiest one is at the moment. You're like, you're 58, bro. Why?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Wearing an oversized Tommy Hilfiger shirt. Why are you dressed like us? What's going on? Why are you wearing four chains? You just bought them from somebody for $12? And he's like, you need a drill press? I got five of them. I got five of them. You get so many drill presses, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And drill, what do you want to do? You want to build things? You want that sort of thing? You want to tear things down? You want to put them together? Country music star? Or do you just want to shoot? What do you need here?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Because we got you covered. We tell you something. What a weird man. What a weird business. Yeah. Yeah, it really is a weird business. Here's some money. I'll hold this for a while.
Starting point is 00:22:59 You know, I want to open a business, James. But I only want the worst crackheads in Phoenix to patronize me. I want the worst people. Yeah. He should open up, like, a bad motel on the property as well because that way it's all one stop, you know? Come here, stay here, and then sell me all your shit for nothing and then get the fuck out. Sell me all the shit you steal over the course of the day. I'll sell it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah, it's basically a fence. That's all he's all he is yeah allegedly we don't know that that's a this is a joke we can't assumptions yeah if we call a legitimate businessman offense i don't know i think that's probably that's probably libelous so i'm gonna say we're definitely joking and we don't know this guy, but he sounds like a douchebag. That I will say. He's a bizarre man. That's not why. A bizarre douchebag. That's a douchey thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Very douchey. I got so many guitars, bro. It's not even funny. So that's what this guy is. Imagine this guy as I described him, but in a St. Louis pawn shop. Wild. Sounds like he's working security there too like you you it's a that's a good guy to have on the premises of yeah because the people that
Starting point is 00:24:12 come there generally are questionable they're selling questionable shit they could be angry if you don't give them as much as they want also you have ar-15s and clint black's guitar they might want to steal it dude the people they come for it when you have cl-15s and Clint Black's guitar. They might want to steal it. Dude, the people, they come for it when you have Clint Black's guitar. You don't even know why they're coming. But you look out, though, it's like zombies. They keep coming way in waves. Clint Black's guitar, I need it. Heard he wrote Just Like the Rain with that one.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Oh, gee, I need it. Oh, God, they don't even know why they're going there. They're just, like, attracted to it for some reason. They get there, and they're like, I don't know why I'm'm here i've had a good run of bad luck that's why i'm here that's why i'm here so in 2007 yeah he decides brian decides it is time to start wrestling okay that is a fucking you are almost 30 time to wrestle big guy let's do it yeah yeah 23 i guess yeah he's 20 what is he 20 yeah 20 oh my god he is 30 no no he's 23 84 yeah 23 okay that's that's that's pretty young yeah i mean you know navy pawn shop now it's time to see what you can do
Starting point is 00:25:20 with your life he's seen the world james he's seen all of it between the navy and a pawn shop you there's nothing you're missing i feel like he's certainly seen people that are most desperate absolutely faraway lands and local crackheads all in one it's a good mixture so he his first thing he works that i can find and we don't know what he did that's not available for whatever but the first thing i can find is that is uh august 3rd 2007 and he's he's wrestling for central states wrestling which okay is a that's there's a lot of wrestling fans will know this if you're pay attention to this sort of thing like there's a weird resurgence in the last 15 years about about this time is when it started where people could like you can for for a small fee they could use the trademark of an old wrestling company oh really for the ones where
Starting point is 00:26:20 the trademarks have expired and i guess vince mcmahon didn't care about him after he bought their footage he didn't give a shit about their trademark so they would use it and i've seen there's another awa that uses the same logo as verne gagne used to use in minnesota there and there's all these different old name promotions being run now not by the people who owned them back then but by new people who used the name. So Central States was an old wrestling fucking old territory around forever that went out of business in the 80s, but that's what they're using anyway. His wrestling name that he picks for himself is Donovan Ruddick. Does that sound familiar to you?
Starting point is 00:27:09 No, I just know riddick well donovan ruddick is also known as donovan not this donovan ruddick the actual donovan ruddick is donovan razor ruddick the fucking boxer the boxer yeah the heavyweight contender that had great fights with mike tyson and was a really badass motherfucker that was razor rudor Ruddock's first name, Donovan? Donovan Razor Ruddock, yeah. That's why he went by Razor, because it sounds a lot tougher than Donovan. Yeah, Donovan sounds like a very neat-dressed man with a small mark carved into the front of his hair.
Starting point is 00:27:38 A little shaved into his hair, yeah. Yeah, just a little bit. But he's got great hair, Donovan. Yeah, beautiful hair. Donovan, it's styled well. It smells good, which is, you know what I mean? Whatever he's using to hold it in place smells really nice. Taylor Swift is soaring high,
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Starting point is 00:29:47 Really? That's where you start out in wrestling, though. YMCA, Mount Vernon, Illinois. Is there a Mount Vernon elsewhere? Virginia? There's a lot of them. Mount Vernon is where George Washington was. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:59 There's Mount Vernon, New York is also a thing between here and the city. Mount Vernon, Illinois. Vernon, New York is also a thing between here and the city. Mount Vernon, Illinois. Mount Vernon, Illinois. Combining George Washington and Lincoln together. One of those places they just named one for every state probably. This is one of those if you see footage of wrestling indie shows and there's like 30 people in folding chairs scattered throughout a YMCA. That's what this is.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I've been to one of those. It's so awesome. It's really interesting because you're right on top of it. But it feels, the guys, I feel so fucking bad for the guys when it's like that. Because that's not how it works. That's not when it's best. That's not what they thought when they signed up for this either. They can make it good because you can almost individually connect with each person
Starting point is 00:30:45 in the audience whether for hate or for good but it's like it's the same thing as stand-up i hate i always compare wrestling with stand-up but if you have a show it's fascinating james because wrestlers now like big name wrestlers are going on like other crazy podcasts and they are now telling those big wrestlers are telling the person we're doing the same thing you don't realize that and they're like oh yeah we are james has been saying it for seven years yes they're doing the same thing eight now eight in february it's it's the exact same thing and when you have 12 people we've done shows shit we've done shows together with 12 people in the audience 100 fucking times and when you have 12 people in the audience you hundred fucking times. And when you have 12 people in the audience, you can do a certain kind of show and you're,
Starting point is 00:31:27 you change your performance. You still tell your jokes, but you tell them in a different way. You, you, cause it's awkward. Otherwise you don't want to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:37 You don't want to do it, but you have to make it work. What else are you going to do? That's comedy. Much like wrestling is no matter what the problem is, no matter if the venue's weird, there's bad, the chairs are bad, there's 12 people, the lighting isn't, whatever the fuck, you still have to do it. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You have to go out and you have to do it. So in comedy, when you have 600 people, you do it a completely different fucking way. Yeah. Totally different way because then you're shouting it to the last row rather than to a person's face and wrestling when you see the guys either try to still act like they're at wrestlemania when there's 30 people which just looks crazy it doesn't even it doesn't even look like oh he's performing he doesn't care you look like an insane person in a bad way you You look very out of place. You look like you don't know what you're doing
Starting point is 00:32:27 because you're yelling out that way. There's nobody out that way. The people are eight feet away from you in folding chairs, so who the fuck are you yelling at? Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. They don't change their act, so I feel bad for wrestlers that have to do that anyway,
Starting point is 00:32:41 but that's, I think, how you start. Maybe that's the best way to learn how to connect to an audience too i've only been to one but and that was when i went to see royce and royce is he's doing much bigger things now but he's fucking great that that night watching him i felt i felt bad for him and he didn't he he was doing what he was supposed to do he yeah he crushed it he was fantastic he's really good he's really good he really is And he's getting better and better. I'm so happy for him. Fuck yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He's so good. And a really awesome, humble, cool dude. What a guy. Great guy. Hard not to root for that dude, I'm telling you. So he ends up wrestling for several odd little promotions here. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:21 One is, where is this? The St. Louis one is where he starts really getting into shit. No, no. He starts in St. Louis. Also, St. Louis, St. Louis Anarchy is the name of the wrestling federation he's wrestling for here. And that is seems to be where he really starts going because he's there for like every it looks like they have monthly shows or every few months and he's at most of them it looks like here and i'm looking at this and i see him i'm trying to see if i know anybody he's fighting it like a a one the name of the event here in june of 2007 circus maximus four at the knights of columbus What? In House Springs, Missouri. You have to be kidding me. They do them there? Yeah, that's what I mean. I guess they'll rent it out for anybody.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I mean, if it's a- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If people are calling and they want to use your space, fuck yeah, we'll rent it to you. That just seems like a, oh, you know what, though? If it's near St. Louis, that makes sense. Because to me, Knights of Columbus is just an Italian thing here. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:23 In New York. But there's a ton of Italians in St. Louis. That's where Yogi Berra and Joe Gargiola came from. There's a neighborhood in St. Louis that was an Italian neighborhood. All right. Yeah. So I think that's probably where that came from. Probably less Italians now.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So they're like, hey, who wants to wrestle here? Yeah. There's one down there in Sunny Slope. That's fucking weird. Yeah. It's strange. So in Sunny Slope. It's fucking weird. Yeah. It's strange. So he also wrestles, this is in May of 2007, at the Veta Sports Club in St. Charles, Missouri. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Oh, yeah. And here he is at Afton, Missouri. I've never even heard of these towns. And we do small town murder. We talk about small towns every week. I know way more small towns than most human beings in the country, and I've never heard of any of these fucking places. Afton. Afta.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Afton. A-F-F-T-O-N. Afton. Oh. Never heard. Oh, that's even worse. It's again. Jimmy was on board until he heard the spelling, and then he's like, I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I can't do it. Well, it's one thing to have a small town with a name that's easy to spell so that if you see it you recognize it but that's fucking confusing and stupid yeah that was somebody's name why that was the guy who owned all the land and now they just named it after him i'm sure or man on the rail or the railroad those are the two things that either the rich guy or the some asshole who was there for five minutes with the railroad the surveyor they name it after him to be a nice guy yep you're like oh he's getting the railroad here uh back and then uh september 2007 back at the knights of columbus hall again so i mean in house springs that must be a hot card there they just give low rent
Starting point is 00:36:01 they are low rent he's's wrestling Tyler Cook then. Also, he seems to wrestle Jordan Lacey a lot. Oh. Because for a while here, in June, he wrestles Lacey, and then he wrestles Lacey in August, and then there's a tag team match. This is how they progress a feud. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Traditionally, you'd have two guys. You bring a pal, I'll bring a pal. Yeah, because it elongates the feud, because now it's not a one-on-one confrontation. Right, we're getting more people involved in this hatred. Yeah, you're making it so those guys, it just makes it more so you want to see them in singles again. So you do that. Then he's Tyler Cook is the next event they have, and then back to Jordan Lacy. And then he seems to be done with Jordan Lacy here.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And he's moved on to the Knights of Columbus Hall again in October. In October, they have LWA, which is the the promotion has two shows at the Knights of Columbus Hall and House Springs, Missouri, in one month. Oh, three weeks apart, the 6th and the 27th of october so shit i mean if you're having events every three weeks in the same fucking place you gotta hopefully people are showing up because maybe they're building a good crowd i don't know i mean i guess you don't do a second one if the first one wasn't sold out right i guess not and then they're back in december again there they might have been there between there in december but he wasn't on the card, so I'm not sure. I only have the cards he's on. In October, he's first, Jordan Lacey beats him.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Then he fights, this is a good name, Johnny Greenpeace. Hell yeah. What the fuck kind of wrestling name is that? See, he plants a tree everywhere, and I'll plant one right up your ass, too. Yeah. Is he like Greenzo or whatever from 30 Rock, David Schwimmer? Is that what he is? What are we talking about here?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Johnny Greenpeace is a terrible name for a wrestler. He's pretty bad, yeah. Doesn't sound tough at all. Then next up, he's for Central States again. This is in November, right around Thanksgiving 2007. He fights adam raw is the man's name adam raw adam raw okay so he's just that's by the way no no no adam like regular adam you don't want to see his finishing move it is gross let's just say that. His finishing move is gross. He takes it off, you guys. He's like, we're going to do this raw, Sonny.
Starting point is 00:38:30 It's not good. For a little bit, he does it with it. Then he takes it off. Then it gets really gross. So then in St. Louis, for that territory again, for the anarchy wrestling there, he is again against Adam Raw here at the Knights of Columbus Hall in House Springs. Jesus Christ, that place is hopping. That place must be just the best wrestling venue ever. Do they do anything for Italians?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Just wrestling. Just wrestling, that's it. I'm sure there's a couple of christenings and shit like that. I remember my cousin Brian had his christening thing was at the Knights of Columbus. Not christening. His communion. His fucking communion. That's the big party they have there.
Starting point is 00:39:17 The first communion. It's his confirmation party for Christ's sake. Here's the envelope. That was when I told the story about him going around slamming the creamers, drinking the fucking creamers. That was at the Knights of Columbus there. You didn't throw up there? No, no, no, he didn't throw up.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Maybe later, but not at the Knights of Columbus. It's not a golden corral, Jimmy. You don't throw up on premises. That's a Your Stupid Opinions reference, which you should be listening to. You should be listening to that show. Holy shit. If there's not puke don't worry there's shit there's gonna be poop there's gonna be something gross there every week he he's up
Starting point is 00:39:51 against uh in january 2008 he's up against in a tag team match and one of the guys he's wrestling is johnny vinyl oh we we got johnny everything around here adam Adam Rod, Johnny Vinyl, Johnny Greenpeace. There's also Johnny on the spot. Yeah. Johnny Cat. Think about this. There's like how many bad wrestling gimmicks have you seen in the major promotions? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Imagine how many bad ones there are in indies. Think about that. And the swings and misses in there have to be stellar that yeah that is actually probably worth the price of admission just seeing the bad yeah that's the thing about wrestling it's one of those things where it's again like stand-up where if it's really good it's really good if it's really bad it's fucking hilarious and why not you know it's fun to watch you're going to enjoy it if it's really bad bad wrestling is funny it's really bad, it's fucking hilarious. And why not? You know, it's fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You're going to enjoy it if it's really bad. Bad wrestling is funny. It can be really fucking lousy. I like when they involve dolls and, like, blood and shit like that around the doll in their entry. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah, like, or a doll head or anything with a doll. Like Al Snow with head? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:04 That was great. But that was because he was so fucking good. He would Snow with head? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great. But that was because he was so fucking good. He would talk to it. Yeah. That's awesome. He was believable, too. He gave it his all, too. Al Snow's awesome, though.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Different kind of cat there. The guy that wrestled the night that I saw Royce, somebody had a doll, too. Really? He wasn't as good as head, obviously. Well. I mean, he spoke to it. He put it in the corner and wrestled for it. He was doing a fucking Al Snow gimm well i mean he spoke to it he put it in the corner and wrestled for it like he was doing a fucking snow gimmick talking to it while he was
Starting point is 00:41:29 wrestling jesus that's hard that's what dude how are you gonna fucking you gotta sell that we're gonna bring a bag with a big snake in it next like you can't that's al snow's gimmick to talk to i'm sure he wouldn't give a fuck but that's all he was wrestling he yeah that's Al Snow's gimmick to talk to I'm sure he wouldn't give a fuck but that's while he was wrestling yeah that's the thing he would go talk to it and like act like you know holy fuck what do I do like consult with it and shit yeah that's what he's doing yeah he's doing Al Snow wasn't Al Snow was it I doubt no
Starting point is 00:41:56 the very young man yeah Al Snow has found the fountain of youth if that's well also if it was Al Snow you'd be like and he was a really good wrestler this guy surprisingly old but very good it was really good still jacked somehow so yeah he's he's wrestling all these guys with crazy fucking indie names next up is the one of the better ones here uh this is january 2008 he wrestles rigor mortis oh not bad that's a good name rigor mortis in mount vernon illinois
Starting point is 00:42:26 that's for central states next up it's where are they arnold missouri arnold missouri arnold never heard of you at the vfw hall in arnold missouri fantastic i've done stand-up at a vfw i don't know where the fuck they were going to wrestle except if you made the ladies with the oxygen tanks move aside while they smoked yeah take your bingo over there yeah that was that um yeah so he's doing all these different events he's in a four-way here oh a four-way for halloween two this isn't for halloween why is this oh the halloween crew. March 29, 2008. This is ACW, which is Anarchy Championship Wrestling. So there's St. Louis Anarchy, then there's Anarchy Championship Wrestling, which are apparently two completely different things. You don't get to use Anarchy twice.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And they run in the same area, too. And they're using the same wrestlers. I think. Yeah. This is in, actually, Austin, Texas. So he's on the road here this is probably his first big road trip a long one um this is a tag team four-way tag team title four-way so four tag teams are so eight guys four different tags oh my god that's a mess is what
Starting point is 00:43:39 that is that's confusing as shit yeah unless everybody's really good workers that's a fucking disaster waiting to happen because somebody's gonna tag then that guy comes in that guy goes out and now you got those three and that guy's tag if yeah you keep the guy away from the tag it's constant tagging if those guys work together and the same eight guys did that for like six months they'd it would be really good probably they could put something together but you just throw eight fucking guys together and tell them what to pull off and try to plan the whole match ahead of time it's going to be ugly and that's why it's in uh the dove rec springs recreation center in austin texas the title of the show appropriately is delusions of Grandeur, which is very appropriate for this particular event.
Starting point is 00:44:28 The tag teams involved, the Halloween crew, which is Black Rocker and Jack O' Lantern. Yes. Not bad. A man named himself Jack O' Lantern. They're against Dylan Stone and Nathan Sin, the Submission Squad, and Donovan Runnick and Gary Jay. So that's the event. Next up. Donovan and his partner have the worst names.
Starting point is 00:44:54 They have the worst. They weren't going to win. There's a guy named Jack O'Lantern. They weren't going to win. Jack O'Lantern and Black Rocker won. They're the new champions. Are you kidding me? Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:45:03 They gave Jack O''lantern a belt for fuck's sake that's insane next up at the st louis anarchy event this is at river's edge reception center not even recreation center this is the reception so you just come in the door and we check in and stuff this is in granite city illinois oh boy worse than laughlin i think Granite City, Illinois. Oh, boy. Worse than Laughlin, I think. Well, maybe not. No, Laughlin's worse. It's pretty bad. Laughlin's much worse. This is a tag team match and they lose it.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Next up at the AAPW. Which one is that? I've got to look. All-American Pro Wrestling is that one. I have a legend thing here that I wrote down of all what these fucking promotions are. It's a disaster. Him and his partner beat a guy named Carnage and a guy named Steven Davis. This is a very prestigious event
Starting point is 00:45:51 at the New Beginnings Assembly Hall in West Frankfurt, Illinois. You know, we're... Recovery Center. I was just going to say, it sounds like a rehab center. They're doing a show to keep everybody's spirits up. You know, activity, guys, everybody.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Let's go. Watching this mess makes me want to keep everybody's spirits up. You know, activity, guys, everybody. Let's go. Watching this mess makes me want to do crack. Jesus Christ. Hey, you know who has crack? These guys, maybe. One of these guys certainly has pills. Somebody's got pills, definitely. Next up, April 2008.
Starting point is 00:46:18 This is for St. Louis Anarchy. He is fighting for the title here at the knights of columbus hall in fairview heights illinois hell yeah where all the big happenings go dreams come true dreams come true here yeah it's like madison square garden there's a few different major venues and storied this is one of them and uh he fights shorty biggs who's the champion and and he beats Shorty, and he becomes the champion of whatever this is. So there he is. He's the champ, everybody.
Starting point is 00:46:49 The dream came true. That's it. All good now. And that's not even Grace yet. No. He's the champ, and it's not Grace. It's going to get bigger. It's going to get bigger and better here.
Starting point is 00:47:01 He's still the champion. Next event, May of 2008 at the knights of columbus hall and house springs again and he defeats evan jalistico jalistico beats him uh next up at the colbert gym in chester illinois i'm just gonna these are these venues are wonderful they're just great yeah he paul rose he beats here it doesn Oh, that's for AAPW. He, again, defends the title at the Veta Sports Complex in St. Peter's, Missouri. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Everybody knows that one. Like I said, that's where a lot of things happen there. I think Ali won a title there once. If I remember correctly here. He goes on a run, though. He beats Jordan Lacy. He beats Shorty Biggs. O'Fallon, Illinois.
Starting point is 00:47:49 The Knights of Columbus Hall. That one's in. O'Fallon. There's a town called O'Fallon with an apostrophe and everything. I think something happened there. Why do I know O'Fallon? I don't know why, but I know it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Something historical happened there. I bet booze was involved. You might be right. He might be the first place that a woman bashed a fucking barrel. I bet Booze was involved with O'Fallon. Just a fucking guess here. So, yeah, he beats Billy McNeil in St. Peter's. Then back in O'Fallon in September of 2008, Jordan Lacey, who we had a feud with before, beats him for the title.
Starting point is 00:48:27 So he's no longer the title holder. But he is fighting a guy named Bobby Danger up next. Hell yeah. Bobby Danger, then Mephisto, which there used to be guys with that name back in the day. Mephisto? Mephisto. I like that. Memphis without the M in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Okay. Yeah. So anyway, what is he? HVW, which one is that? HVW is high voltage wrestling. He wrestles for them. Oh, Yuletide Terror. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That was the name of one of the cards. Yuletide Terror. I like it. Valentine Vengeance is even better. Okay. I'm starting to get annoyed. Valentine Vengeance is even better. Okay, I'm starting to get annoyed. Valentine Vengeance, everybody, at the Coral Springs Gymnasium in Coral Springs, Florida. It's Valentine Vengeance.
Starting point is 00:49:15 He's mad because he took him to the Golden Coral. Oh, it's the fight at the Golden Corral Buffet. Winner gets to eat from the Golden Corral Buffet. Loser has to watch him eat from the Golden Corral Buffet. Loser has to watch him eat from the Golden Corral Buffet. So, yeah, he's in all these different LWH. High Voltage is what he's in a lot here. High Voltage likes to name their shit. Valentine Vengeance. Diamond and Dust.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Diamonds and Dust. That's really weird. I don't understand. I don't know. Well, anyway, he wins the title. He wins the High Volt wins the high voltage live wire title all right so there's that yeah and he defends that against rick fuller the next month so he's like an up-and-coming wrestler then in the in the indie circuit yes yeah he's huge here's the thing about the indies great point yeah there's not a lot of gigantic guys on the indies.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Right. So when you see a gigantic guy, immediately that guy comes to the forward because everybody else is 5'10", for the most part. That is pretty fascinating about wrestling. I mean, granted, comedy and wrestling, same thing in terms of elevation. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And so when you're 6'7", in a ring that's already way above my head, and now you're 6'7", taller than that, that's commanding. And you look like a big badass.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And you're fighting. And you're flying. Looking tough is the whole thing here. Right. I mean, you don't have to actually be tough. I mean, you have to be tough to take the bumps, but you don't have to be like a good fighter. That's not part of it. Yeah. So he's back in st louis st louis seems to be his home base because i guess he lives there so he keeps it yeah because all these guys that they're going
Starting point is 00:50:53 to do these indie shows a lot of times they're not i mean it's going to be you're not making anything with travel and all that kind of shit so it's you know unless you're a big name you're not making a lot of money on that kind of thing so right local things would be great so he's lucky there is a local promotion to even work for there's a lot of guys there's just no local promotion near them so he keeps going he uh he's up against what is he he's at the high voltage again he's the high voltage champion but he's also wrestling for saint uh in saint louis as well he loses the heavyweight title uh of the high voltage here at at you've got another thing coming is the name of the event oh in a fall falls count anywhere match jews priest has no
Starting point is 00:51:38 problem with that huh no problem yeah i'm sure they don't ever play the song i'm sure they do actually they fucking better they're like there's 40 people here it doesn't matter no one's gonna sue us no there's a high school dance that's playing shit that's gonna get sued before us there's 800 that we're gonna divvy up amongst everybody it'll be fine yeah exactly and i'm gonna keep 600 of it so that's the promoter there so yeah um next up he's for st louis he defeats super electro in house springs missouri again man house springs is just his town can't even he can't he can't buy a drink in house springs people are throwing them at him please drink it kicking ass i'm just looking for weird names now of people or events uh yuletide terror 2009 i do enjoy that is not bad yuletide terror
Starting point is 00:52:27 be scared he uh wow he has a little run here where he beats the big texan over and over again okay just the big texan i don't know that's so that he can go out in public all the time the big texan here's a guy named the dixieland destroyer also oh not bad that is that is at an event called cocked locked and loaded jesus christ where the fuck is that missouri oh my god cocked locked and loaded was at the river's edge reception center in granite city illinois i apologize southern missouri with the dix Missouri. With the Dixieland Destroyer. Dixieland Destroyer. In 2009, at the end of every year,
Starting point is 00:53:12 Pro Wrestling Illustrated, which is a very old wrestling magazine, they've been doing this forever. And I remember when I was a kid, when I was 10, the rankings would come out. They do the top 500 wrestlers in the world is what they do. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:26 So, yeah, when I was a kid, I was, like, hearing about guys I never heard about before. I was like, oh, who's that guy? Yeah. He was ranked number 476 out of 500 in 2009. Only 24 better. Only 24 worse in that 500. Worse. Sorry, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Yeah. 476. So, I mean, but he is recognized as being a legitimate wrestler that's in the Pro Wrestling Illustrated rankings. So, that makes him a real person, basically. So, he ends up, like I said, when you're a big guy like that, you stand out in an indie promotion because you're way bigger than everybody else. Unless it's one of the old retired guys or somebody that just left wwe or something that's on the card otherwise you're dwarfing everybody so and so the major promotions are going to notice you because they scout this sort of
Starting point is 00:54:16 thing so in 2010 he signs a contract with wwe he what. They signed him to a developmental contract, which is what they would do because he's only been wrestling two years. He's not ready to go on fucking Monday Night Raw yet. You can't go from the YMCA with 40 people to Monday Night Raw. That's not a... Knights of Columbus to wrestling reign. That's really difficult shit to do here. So they, of course, don't let him use the name Donovan Ruddock, not only because he stole it from a boxer who was just boxing less than 15 years, fucking 10 years before this. He was he was boxing also because they need to own your shit.
Starting point is 00:54:58 So they're going to give you a name. He is they his. I don't know if this is his gimmick or what they give him the name they give him is dt porter what capital d capital t porter that just sounds like dt porter isn't it yeah that's not a name there's no catch where's the hook to that where's the it's not even like a cool name i I don't even know what he does. Yeah, DT makes it sound like it's short for something I should know, but I don't know what that is. So then the whole thing is lost.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Alcoholic Shakes Porter, is that his name? Yeah, I think Delirium Tremens Porter. Yeah, I think that's what it is. He's going to work the Florida Championship Wrestling, which is the company's developmental territory down there in florida grace i'm going to say right here it's pretty good it's not bad he made it farther than most people make it i'll say that much and basically on size here is basically i think anyway what the deal is he's a giant guy you go well we'll see what we can do with him they advanced him in through the the the i advanced him through the Indies very fast and made him champion twice. He's wrestling everywhere for him.
Starting point is 00:56:13 The small promotions, he seems to be at the top of the cards. Yeah, they identify him as the guy there. Yeah, absolutely. That's what he's doing. He's wrestling for Florida, but it's not until very late 2010 from what I can find. Because before that, it's a ton of indies. He's on a bunch of these fucking indies. PWE, MMWA.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Oh, the other one, SICW. That's Southern Illinois Championship Wrestling. Yeah, that's interesting. All the acronyms that I've never heard of. Oh, totally. He wins the PWE title over Jimmy Carrot. What? Yeah, Jimmy Carrot.
Starting point is 00:56:54 He wins a battle royal. Southern Illinois Championship Wrestling really loves him. He's winning every match with them. Hardcore shit. So 2010, though, once he goes toida man he go all these title changes for him he uh the mississippi madman madman okay that's one oh wow eugene he wrestled remember eugene oh no the wrestler who uh pretended to be you don't remember that no you don't remember when they had a guy who went on there and said he was retarded on fucking national television?
Starting point is 00:57:28 Stop it. And did a character where he'd go, oh, and he would, like, stomp around? You don't remember that? No. He was around for, like, a couple years, and it's sad. For far too long. The guy's, like, a good wrestler and shit, and it fucking ruined him. I mean, everyone just sees him as that.
Starting point is 00:57:45 He was good at it. People thought it was true, but it wasn't. I'll be watching YouTube videos of that. Look up, if any of you have never seen it, look up Eugene WWE. Done and done, and look up an interview, and you're going to go, oh my God. Are you kidding me? What the fuck are they doing? It's got to be nearly as bad as when they made vince say the n word
Starting point is 00:58:07 that was even weirder that was stupid george the animal steel kind of played a character like that but it was more rather than like a challenged person he was supposed to be like not along farther enough in the evolutionary chain he was like an animal he was covered in hair part of society right yeah he lives in like a cave whereas this guy is like i went to a special school it's a totally different it's totally different thing my bus wasn't as big as the other one yeah so that's what they were doing it's not me it's them why would he do that i don't know it's not his fault they gave him that no i mean who the fuck told vince this is a great idea stephanie maybe i don't know stephanie this if you ever jim cornett rants all the time if his
Starting point is 00:59:01 name comes up because he's like good kid kid, good wrestler all that. They fucking killed him. They ruined him. Why are they making him do that? Why can't he be a wrestler? So, and it makes sense a lot. So, he's wrestling for Florida Championship Wrestling and he looks like he's losing a bit at the Florida Championship
Starting point is 00:59:19 Wrestling Arena in Tampa. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. the only thing you're losing is my patience quickly i see that the queen of the courtroom is back i didn't do anything you wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face i see he's not intimidated by by anything, I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. OK, so, um. Not this is not a so.
Starting point is 00:59:51 This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award winning series returns. How did I know that. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I have crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Judy Justice, only on Freebie. Jesus, poor bastards. Got to wrestle in Tampa. I feel bad for them there. They love it jesus christ yeah it's uh yeah that audience for it is rabid jesus probably yeah i would assume it's probably a good crowd is why they're down there i would hope that wwe would have cultivated some sort of audience for this by now in tampa yeah so he's fighting Tim Zabisco. Is that Larry Zabisco-related person? I wonder.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Then there's Vashon. Okay. That's a very famous butcher and mad dog and Luna, and there's a lot of Vashons there. That's interesting. Steel Horse Vashon. Okay, that's for NWA. So he seems to still be wrestling indies,
Starting point is 01:01:07 even though he's with Florida. But he doesn't seem to be with Florida very long. That's the thing. I only see on this website, I only see two events he wrestled in for Florida Championship Wrestling. I'm sure there's more, but I only see two. Then in May of 2012, he is dropped by wwe just like that huh do they find out he's doing extra shit or i mean no a lot of the guys i would imagine are i don't know if you're allowed used to be but i don't know now what the rules are if you're in developmental right if you're in developmental maybe maybe they encourage you to go do other stuff to get better
Starting point is 01:01:44 yeah they should they should encourage you to be do other stuff to get better. They should. They should encourage you to be doing everything, but at the same time, they're paying you. So they might say, well, I don't want you fucking getting hurt somewhere else, might be it also. And that also makes sense because some of these indie promotions have shitty rings. They work against guys that don't know what the fuck they're doing. Might drop them on their head. So, I mean, there's all of that there. Makes sense.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So he is dropped by wwe which he never really he never really got any footing under him here yeah worked his way through the indies for a couple years got signed didn't seem to be going anywhere and then done they just drop him like a hot potato the other part is they're aware of you they know what you're capable of so whatever got you kicked out of there or dropped from there maybe work on that or maybe it's something that's detrimental entirely to his performance there we don't know and he's 28 and he's you know yikes yeah he's already on the downslide fuck and he puts on quite the facebook post oh quite the facebook he wants to talk about it oh yeah he says and i quote guys i don't know how
Starting point is 01:02:49 much longer i can handle this every day is a constant struggle to keep my sanity i love wrestling and it's all i ever wanted to do already going crazy since i've been uh for like 10 months now but it gets worse every day a trainer goes out of his way to rib or disrespect me in front of the boys because i've been out so long apparently he's an injury probably and they'll fuck with you a little bit if you're they think you're milking it basically they'll pick on you i can't clear myself i want to wrestle more than anything but i don't know who i am anymore so i can't clear myself like he yeah i need medical to do it yeah yeah i don't know i don't know who I am anymore. So I can't clear myself. Like he medically can't. Yeah, I need medical to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yeah. I don't even know who I am anymore. So he went from being a wrestler that felt confident and tough and like he knew what he was doing to being an injured guy sitting on the side with the trainers talking shit to him is what he's saying. Well, a doctor tells him you're not allowed to work because this is still a mess.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And they're going, oh, look at you, big guy with your sore, with your sore this or that and you know fucking with him so um i don't know he said it's so fucking hard i just feel it building inside of me and i don't know how much longer i can contain it i have daydreams of just fucking everyone up on some real shit i'm not a kid i'm a fucking man okay Okay. But what do you do when the people in charge of helping you get to the main roster are the ones making
Starting point is 01:04:10 your life the hardest? I've been drinking almost every day. It's to the point where I keep vodka and gin in my trunk. Help me! Exclamation point.
Starting point is 01:04:18 This is a cry for help. Sounds like a manifesto. It's like a manifesto mixed with a cry for help because most manifestos don't it's like a manifesto mixed with a cry for help because most manifestos don't end help me that's not it yeah usually manifestos end with i've got the solution i'm doing this shit yeah he said help me solution yet yeah he doesn't even know what the fuck he's doing who he is so he posts this which by the way has very it's really sounds like it's in somebody's head.
Starting point is 01:04:45 You know what I mean? It's like stream of consciousness just letting out shit. Yeah. And he later claimed that he didn't write that. He was hacked. Oh, somebody else wrote that. Like I said, someone who knows everything about your personal life and personality to the point where they can really nail- And medical records.
Starting point is 01:05:02 You better sue them for HIPAA violations. That's the other thing and amazing good computer skills to hack into your shit. All of this in one. I mean that's impressive. I gotta say. That's a really good hacker. It's such a specific person you should know exactly who did it
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah, exactly By the way, he claimed when he was, his wrestling billing you know, from here, which is never really where they're from, he said he was from Jamaica, Queens, New York. That was his character. Now, Donovan Razor Ruddock was Jamaican, so I was wondering if maybe that was any connection to that. He just saw Coming to America or some shit. Yeah, and then he was like, mixed it all together.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I'm not sure here. So he's quiet for a little while here. He's wrestling in 2013 still, and it's for this NWA and Believe, oh, I Believe in Wrestling. That's the one promotion's name. I Believe in Wrestling in 01 USA also. What?
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah, he loses to a guy in a steel cage one USA also. What? Yeah. He loses to a guy in a, in a steel cage named bear St. Pierre. Okay. There in Illinois. So he's doing all of that. Um,
Starting point is 01:06:14 he's dropped. He's, you know, trying to make his way through the last match I can find of his is on April 28th, 2013. He wrestled two nights in a row there, the 27th and the 28th.
Starting point is 01:06:26 He's going by Donovan Terrell now. That's his new ring name here. I see him lose in Tampa, Tampa, Florida for NWA then, and I believe in wrestling event. He loses, or no, he wins that night in Orlando. Okay. That's April 2013. Don't hear anything else from him until July 24th, 2013, when we hear a lot from him.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Okay. So he goes two months of silence and then- Radio silence, and then it's fucking on. Raising the red flags. Yes. He's married. That we do know. Okay?
Starting point is 01:07:04 Don't know shit about his wife don't know a goddamn thing but i do know this he's certainly married and the woman he's involved with tonight is definitely not his wife and we'll find out that for sure this is july 24th 2013 8 30 p.m okay you know when we go specific to date and time, bad shit's about to happen. So this is Tampa, Florida, obviously, where bad shit happens. 8449 Del Lago Circle is the address here. That is not nice. Apartments.
Starting point is 01:07:37 And his girlfriend is Bianca Vidal McGahey. I don't know how you'd say this. M-C-G-A-U-H-E-Y. Oh. Yeah. McGaughy? But they're both McGs, which is interesting. McGee.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Yeah. McGaughy, yeah. Couple of McGs. Couple of McGs over here. So Bianca's 25. She's born July 15,, 1988 with her McG self. She's from St. Louis. Her parents are Yolanda and Ronald.
Starting point is 01:08:11 She went to like all Christian schools when she was a kid. Oh, yeah. Christian. Where'd she go? North County Christian School is where she went. She's a member of the cheerleading squad at that high school. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:24 She went to Harris Stowe University yeah she went to harris stowe university and then went to ultimate medical academy okay and then she ended up ultimate medical sounds like it sounds like it's not medical stuff sports training or some shit i was thinking like eyebrow threading or something that's what that sounds like to me like i'm sure it's not but just to me you put ultimate In the title I'm not taking you seriously as a Doctor you get your degree there to run A mall kiosk yeah
Starting point is 01:08:51 Never heard of an I'm an ultimate oncologist I don't hear that ever it's a serious Person I'm your family physician I got my doctorate from ultimate Family Ultimate University Their slogan Is it's the coolest bra Extreme Ultimate family. Ultimate university. Their slogan is it's the coolest bra. Extreme family dentistry.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Extreme. Extreme family dentistry. I do two people at the same time. I'm ambidextrous. Pow, pow. Got two chairs next to each other. You want to get these bunions fixed in ultimate podiatry. Oh, yeah. Ultimate podiatry. That's other you want to get these bunions fixed in ultimate podiatry oh yeah ultimate podiatry that's what you want i really want that i really want where's the ultimate where's the
Starting point is 01:09:34 ultimate proctologist where is he that's where i need to go i need the ultimate you really got to jam something up my ass and find out what's going on. We don't use fingers around here. We use fists. We use fists. It's the ultimate proctologist. I go halfway up my forearm. I lost a watch in a guy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:57 Call ourselves the polyp pickers around here. Some guy's got 10 grand worth of Rolex in his colon right now. You understand what I'm trying to tell you right now? But I got all his Paulips, I'll tell you that. Got him. Clean bill of health, buddy. Can't get through a metal detector with a clean bill of health. He's going to have to wind that thing one day.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Oh, yeah. It's going to stop stop ticking and then what maybe hopefully it's one of those movement based ones don't run around the block it'll be good for a day or two what are you running labs for for your your health? No, man, I got a watch in there. I like to keep time. This wind in my watch. I wish he wouldn't have set that alarm for 2 o'clock every day before he lost it at me, because this is really crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Every day about 2.02, I come. It's really weird. I'm like, oh, boy, look at that. I had to change my work shift. I've got to get out of here at 1.30. I've got to be home by 2.02. Got to beat traffic. So she uses her ultimate medical academy background to work for Comcast, the cable internet company.
Starting point is 01:11:24 The nurse on premises or something? No, no. Yeah. Just answering phones. Checks blood pressure. Everybody's cubicle. She was a big time member of her church she was into. She was an usher and a member of the choir.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Oh. And a member of the praise dance team. Oh. Yes. She got her shit together. With dance. Yeah. And she also worked with the youth department of the church for a long time.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And she would go to their youth conferences all the time. Everybody said she's a real happy-go-lucky kind of person. And she was super into her two cats. Or three cats. Four cats. Oh. Four cats. What?
Starting point is 01:12:00 I have their patches, Leo, Speedy, and Boots. That's a lot of cats, man. That's a lot of cats. So I assume Patches has patches. Leo probably looks like a lion. Yeah. Speedy, self-explanatory. And then Boots probably had the little white feet.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Or black paws. White cat. White cat, either one. That's his girlfriend, though. Okay. Okay. He also has a wife is the problem what's going on there uh yes and apparently she breaks i believe bianca breaks up with him is the problem
Starting point is 01:12:33 and he is still trying to pursue her so she takes another tactic which i believe would be an effective tactic unless what happened here happens. Okay, so she is at her apartment complex walking her dog. She has a dog too? She has a dog too, apparently. Or somebody else's dog. She is walking a dog at this point. Walking a dog, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Walking a dog. She's on the phone as well. He pulls up to her apartment where she had told him not to come. Or He pulls up to her apartment where she had told him not to come. Yeah. Or he pulls up to her apartment. I'm sorry, where he she had told him not to go. So he sees her out there walking.
Starting point is 01:13:14 He decides to get out of the car and walk up to her. OK, here's a quote from the court documents later on. uh here's a quote from the court documents later on uh bianca held the phone up to mr mcgee and said something to the effect of here there is someone who wants to talk to you okay it was she had called his wife oh what the fuck man yeah and so she was like, yo, not only this and that, but he's here now. He's right here. Oh, my. Fucking with, she's still here. So he's going to be in trouble on every level.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Oh, man. The cops with her. There's a lot going on here. Everybody hates him right now. Everybody doesn't want him to be here, and he's still here. So she's talking to his wife. His wife said she was, the whole thing was his wife was concerned for his safety because he was acting crazy okay based on that facebook post i'd be
Starting point is 01:14:12 worried about his safety too if i was a friend of his if you posted that i'd be like jimmy call me what the fuck bro where are you at man let's talk jesus christ so he walks up to her and according to the court documents quote mr mcee began attacking her without saying a word. He walked up to her and immediately began attacking her with a knife, by the way. Not beating her. He's 6'7", 270 pounds. Wait, he doesn't need that. She's small.
Starting point is 01:14:39 She's a small woman. I mean, he definitely absolutely doesn't need a knife to hurt this woman and she said here somebody wants to talk to you and he just started stabbing her he said awesome let me stab you a lot wow and we're talking a lot and there's rage here real fucking rage a witness watches this by the way a witness was standing it's. So, yeah, it's not like this is three in the morning. A witness saw him walk up to her and he the witness said he thought that it appeared that Brian had punched her in the stomach. But it was really as he stabbed stabbed. Oh, he had a knife. She fell to the ground screaming after he punched her in the stomach, quote unquote.
Starting point is 01:15:22 So the neighbor ran inside to call the cops. Right. Not knowing she was stabbed. Right. While the neighbor's inside, he just... He went to work. I mean, stabs her until he breaks the knife in her. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:15:39 He stabs her so much he breaks the knife, but he's not done yet. He says, oh, that's's okay i have another knife in my car he brought two he stopped stabbing her with a broken knife got up walked all the way over to his car got another opened up his fucking console whatever picked the knife out walked back over to her and continued to stab the fuck out of this poor woman he is so mad that is rage she was already fucked too i mean she had stabbed she would have been dead i mean this is just this is for him now this isn't for purpose this is i need to be stabbed her once and then continued till he broke it off she's not doing well not
Starting point is 01:16:16 doing well and she's got half a knife in her most more than likely he said gonna keep doing it so he keeps stabbing her stabbing her stabbing. By the time the neighbor comes back outside after calling 911, all the neighbor sees is Bianca on the sidewalk on her back with a knife sticking out of her stomach. Left it. Fucking, I mean, you want to talk about bloody. It's got to be a bloodbath. 25-year-old woman, bloody as fuck, laying there. She dies at the scene before paramedics even arrive. She's dead.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Oh, my. So he stabbed her until he was sure she was dead is what it seems. That's what it seems like to me. And then he left? Yeah. He took off. He gets in his car and jets. He's driving a Pontiac Grand Prix, which shows that he's doing very well.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Because I don't even think they made Pontiacs anymore by that year. Not in 2013. I don't think they were even making a Pontiac. So this is what's even more fucked up. Now it gets even crazier. If that's not crazy enough, he takes off in the car and posts on facebook oh from his phone in the car in the car at 8 46 p.m so 16 minutes after this probably three minutes after this he changes his facebook profile picture yeah to would you like to see it jimmy oh we that we got it
Starting point is 01:17:47 what the fuck is that the cut on his hand or just her blood it's her go back it's a close-up what the fuck man looks like a wrist with a very large gash. He took a picture of her. It's her. He posted that as his profile picture while he was running from the scene of stabbing her. Oh, my God. What the fuck is that? You can't even tell what it is exactly. Yeah, it's just like it's just it's obviously skin and blood on it. And yeah, I mean, damaged. But that's what it is exactly um yeah it's just like it's just it's obviously skin and blood on it and
Starting point is 01:18:25 yeah i mean damaged but that's what it is uh there's a it's wild so it's a very bizarre reason there's no i don't get it i don't get it at all yeah that's what he does uh the police are now hunting for him because they witness had seen his car they know it's a dangerous plate yeah so here's what they put out brian mcgee six foot seven 280 pounds black hair shoulder length dreads shouldn't be too hard to find honestly it's a huge person uh tattoos on the upper right arm he's got two first one says fat fat what i don't know okay it's got a nickname and the second tattoo says brianna which might be his wife's name or his daughter's name or who the fuck knows sister some gal that somebody's somebody's plowing who knows yeah i don't know he thought his
Starting point is 01:19:21 girlfriend's name was brianna instead of Bianca and fucking messed up. Maybe she's the throat goat. We don't know. We don't know. So this is, he's driving a 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix, silver with black racing stripes, Florida tag, WNI, and then they cut it off. It's a silver one with black, and a 2008? They still made them that late?
Starting point is 01:19:43 I was going to say, that is the tail end of Pontiac. That's really. That Aztec really ruined them. It did. It was a joke. But he got like the last one coming off the, it was the last employee before they fired everybody. Yeah. The GTO in that car.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah. Pontiac G6? That was another one. Oh, yeah. That was another one oh yeah that was a different that's a pretty good car so he then gets on the phone very active on the phone for a guy who just murdered somebody yeah he calls up his sister and mother i mean he does a little three-way yeah no he calls to admit that he killed them he killed me he goes i just stabbed the fuck out of bianca i killed her and now i'm on the run and blah blah blah they're like holy shit his sister said that so while he's on the phone with them he that one of them calls the cops on another phone great so a cop comes over and the sister's trying to keep him on the line the whole time here yeah and just keep him
Starting point is 01:20:43 on the line so he doesn't go drive into a fucking brick wall or something too yeah so they're on the line he has confessed to both mom and sister they the sister then gives the phone to the cop gives it to the cop yeah she's like yo i'm putting a cop on so he gets on the phone with the cop and confesses to the cop over the phone too right well i mean you already done this part let's just get you somewhere that makes society safer that's what it is so eventually police spot his car and try to pull him over and he fucking takes off of course he's on the he's there they have to chase him now so they're chasing him through tampa roosters are flying all over the place being hit bouncing off bonniacs fucking bouncing off everywhere he is making chicken tenders on every corner it's a high-speed chase i believe it he eventually crashes into a guardrail
Starting point is 01:21:38 near i-75 and country or county road 41 but i guess best case scenario hits a guardrail his car's fucked up yeah he the cops around him he will not comply and get out of the car really can't get he will not get out of the fucking he's doing like a sovereign citizen thing like i don't have to get out of i don't answer questions i don't answer won't get out of the fucking car at all um so the cops say all right here chino chino chino is a police dog that one of them has yeah who is a seven-year-old canine and this is his this is his last night before retirement literally no this is like the the plot of it's literally his last night of the job chinoino. That dog has done so much work. Don't do this.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Don't sacrifice Chino. Chino, last night on the job. He's like, I'm one day from retirement, Chino is. I get the gold collar tomorrow. Yeah, that's what he gets, the big gold collar in the sky here. Oh, Jesus. He jumps in the car and fucking rips dude right out of the car chino's fine yeah no chino's great brian don't want to fuck with chino apparently
Starting point is 01:22:52 chino's seen worse than you man i've yeah he's lived in florida for seven years the car door was open and chino fucking leaped into the car and just fucking pulled him out, pinned him in there with his fucking bit onto him until the guy was screaming, please come get me out of the fucking car. This dog is on me. Can you imagine? How the fuck? Okay. I watch like on patrol and live TV, whatever the fuck, and I'm watching it and I don't understand. Okay. patrolling and live pd whatever the fuck and i'm watching it and i don't understand okay let me just
Starting point is 01:23:26 get the facts in my head because i i'm a logic person and the law is supposed to follow a logic generally yeah okay a police dog is a cop as a cop correct yeah yeah if you shoot a police dog and kill it you shot a cop you shot a cop and you are prosecuted as such yeah but a police dog and kill it you shot a cop you shot a cop and you are prosecuted as such yeah but a police dog can fucking bite you till they rip wounds in you while you're saying okay and with your hands up and doing anything that and you can't you can't have that thing arrested for assault but yes there are that's if a cop bit you and tore chunks out of your leg the arrest would be no good he'd be kicked off the force what the fuck like how is that a fun just like make a legal yeah i'm not saying it's bad whatever make the law what it is but the law is not logical and it drives me fucking crazy because
Starting point is 01:24:19 it's so ridiculous you were essentially using a weapon to make this arrest. But if you can't fire a gun and then arrest the gun, this animal. This animal. And when I play with my dog, sometimes he gets out of control. I'm fucking scared. This is an animal whose job it is to actually do this yeah and i don't know the codes i i can't fucking i don't know the cheat code to get this thing to stop chewing on how to get the wanted level down i can't do it we nobody knows that even the officers sometimes have to beat that
Starting point is 01:24:57 fucking dog and that's the other thing i want to say is i see on the show sometimes they'll bite on to somebody and they come over they're cuffing guy, they're all there and the cop's still yelling at the dog, trying to pull the dog off and the dog is just ripping flesh off this person. Well, this cop is hitting the dog. That dog should not be on the stat. No. You're retired that night.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Arrest it. Put it in the kettle. You can't fucking do that. I'm sorry, but that's crazy. Or make laws that say that whatever the fuck. But the logic, the law is to follow the logic. You have to use that dog in a specific situation. If it's just a dude that's running that's got meth, let's not rip his fucking forearm apart. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:25:38 That's not helping any. No. And I get sometimes the dogs help because when you're finding someone and you send the dog out, all of a sudden they give up now because they don't want to get bit by a fucking dog. Because they know nothing's not going to stop chewing on you. Yeah. Which, I mean, it's great to use the dogs and they're highly skilled and everything, but holy shit, like either they have to be just as good at releasing as they are catching or yeah you can't use that that's gotta be it it's gotta that dog has to be you have to make some fucking sound and that dog quits right yeah i've never seen them quit no they have they're still like agitated when you put them in the
Starting point is 01:26:17 truck yeah they have to put that thing in their mouth and like pop their fucking jaws open with it you know what i mean that like stick so they can yeah and then they put them in the truck and it's still going fucking bananas in the back of the truck you're like yeah it's not the the rest the guy's in the truck too now you got the dog and the guy in the truck again fuck this guy it's not what i'm saying we're just in general i'm looking for logic so they have to take brian to the hospital because he hurt himself in the crash and he was bitten by a fucking dog so right he goes to the hospitals and uh by the way one of his nicknames in wrestling when he went by under donovan ruddick was the future donovan ruddick which sounds like he's gonna marry someone named ruddick and he's like i'm gonna be the future
Starting point is 01:27:00 donovan ruddick not much of a future here. He's taken to Pasco County Jail where futures die. What a county. What a county. He is now facing first degree murder charges. And for Chino, last day on the job, he's been working five years. And he's only seven, but he's retiring early due to leg problems. And he gets fatigue from leg problems. Yeah, because he's a fucking German shepherd and his hips are bad.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Yeah. His handler said last night was probably one of the best. What a way to retire, especially with a homicide suspect. It really can't get any better than that. That's frightening. That's the other thing. That's the most frightening statement. The dog doesn't fucking know if he apprehended a homicide
Starting point is 01:27:46 suspect or a holocaust survivor there's no fucking idea it's a fucking dog they act like because it's a police dog if it was that smart it would know to stop fucking biting somebody if there's a cop beating the shit out of someone and someone goes johnson stop beating the shit out of that guy he'll stop or he goes to prison forever they act like they know the the rah rah scares the shit out of me too though like yeah to a to a to get it what if it was just a dude that was in a high-speed chase and we just set the dog loose to get him like that's a that's a disappointing career like what are you talking about he still apprehended the guy sorry chino it's only a only a shoplifter we're sorry we couldn't get you anybody juicy to chew on but uh sorry you didn't get to rip the throat out of a homicide we really are we apologize for all that
Starting point is 01:28:44 they said chino normally gets a sausage biscuit from mcdonald's after he catches anybody but they said that he's gonna get an ice cream also this time because he's retiring okay so feed him poison good job yeah there you go he's dead he said his first day on the job he nabbed a burglary suspect. Yeah. And they said he both does location of, like, you know, person locating, and he's an explosives dog, too. Wow. Which is cool as fuck. He's lucky to be alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:14 I mean, he was one of the dogs that routinely inspected the area around Raymond James Stadium where the Bucks play. That's where he was. He was one of those guys here. James Stadium where the Bucks play. He was one of those guys here. So in his mugshot, old Brian has his hospital gown on, which makes him look crazier, obviously. It does.
Starting point is 01:29:37 The hospital has him listed at 6'7", 270 pounds. So that's what he is. He's big as shit still. Yeah, they're not lying about that. They're not stretching him. That's medical. That's medical. That's what I mean. When I when i first saw in wrestling he was listed at six six i'm like why is he listed at shorter than he is number one right and number two a little make him stretch him out he's six seven you could tell him six nine hulk hogan they said was six nine he
Starting point is 01:29:57 was six six there you could do that there you go done so yeah the Facebook profile pic and all that did not help any of this stuff. So, yeah, he is he's taken to jail. So two days later, July 27th, 2013, he's trying to get bail now. Let's let this guy on the street. He's he seems stable. He's doing great. Yeah, I'd love to ask, is he out of his fucking mind? But that's been answered yeah and while he is doing that he says that um he told
Starting point is 01:30:27 deputies he remembers driving to the house he said i don't remember the killing but i remember driving to her house to tell her goodbye because i was going to kill myself so i was just going to say you know peace out yeah and so yeah yeah then this all happened. She was talking to my wife. It turned into all this. Yeah. So the judge denies bail and tells him, quote, you're facing life in prison where the presumption is great and the evidence is great against you. Like, you've admitted to doing this.
Starting point is 01:30:58 We know you did it. You're asking to walk the streets. Are you out of your fucking mind? While we wait for due process? No, man. You're definitely going to take off or kill yourself. You broke a knife in a woman and went back to your car for another. No.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Yeah, ridiculous. So the judge said that also mental health issues clearly need to be explored a bit here. reports they said that uh he um he told he told because the judge is kind of going over it and said that yeah you called your sister and admitted to her you just killed this lady and now you're going to try to kill yourself that's what he told her and they said that the they got a description of the car and tracked you down that's how they got a description of the car was from the sister yeah they said you go as far as pasco county you went to the hospital at the hospital you did an interview with police officers you said something about you remember driving over to her residence to tell her goodbye because you were going to kill yourself and that
Starting point is 01:31:54 you don't remember much after that you did say you remembered calling your sister and telling her you killed the woman so basically everything you're saying is crazy and there's no way we're letting you out on the streets right we can't yeah um so he says that um the they're trying to say that you should give him bail he's lived in this county for two and a half years okay yeah he's got a wife a sister and an 11 year old child that live in the area okay so we know he's got that too um he also works at a screen printing company and at a as a bouncer at three different clubs where jimmy guess where tampa guess where strip clubs are there is it where is it guess what part of tampa oh is it is it ybor city it's ybor fucking city because ybor city is so bonkers your fucking
Starting point is 01:32:48 bouncer needs to be a murderous six foot seven 280 pound person because it's terrifying around there and he still cannot keep that place safe yeah because the place is fucking wild he's not even in nowhere near the top 10 of most dangerous people in any group over there at that point in time it's i've never seen lowered harley davidson's with stereos bigger than my car never i've never seen it like that before i have bought fucking drugs in the bronx like this like in terrible neighborhoods i've done i have never ever ever waited for my uber with my back against a brick fucking wall so nobody can fucking come up from behind me ever in my life except for in Ybor City. I said, fuck this shit. This is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:35 I am fucking, I'm waiting to fucking wallop somebody. I had my fucking knife in my pocket ready to slash somebody's throat. I put everything in my front pocket so that I could walk. Yeah. Mostly my box cutter is what I had in my front pocket. And everywhere we go, I don't feel scared because I've been in bad places. I'm out at three in the morning smoking weed in an alley behind. I don't give a fuck. In downtown, in every big city.
Starting point is 01:33:59 That's the bad part, usually. Don't care. Just about every city. Ybor is by far the scariest cleveland awful scary ebor city is way worse because there are people there enjoying how terrible they love it that's what i mean it's like one of those future movies where everything's bad but then there's like a group of people are like yeah that's right they're. They love it and shit. Having a good time in it. Oh, God, it's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Like a hooker in a fur coat smoking a cigarette with jizz dripping down her thigh. That's evil city. Thigh and chin. Different jizz. On the chin, it's keeping the cigarette in her mouth. Yeah, it's stuck to it. Two different jizzes, by the way.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Welcome to Florida. Oh, my gosh. So there he is. He's sitting in jail. Yeah. Fucked. Pretty fucked, honestly. I mean, you don't get more fucked than this, honestly.
Starting point is 01:35:01 No. This is bad stuff. He's sitting there. He doesn't know what to do with himself. And he's very fucking sad that's the thing very very sad which i mean why wouldn't you be you're in jail here you've ruined it he is held without bail he decides he sits in jail for almost well actually for just about three years he said oh my god trial yeah with all the mental health evaluations and all the delays. Wow.
Starting point is 01:35:26 All this type of shit, which it's see, this is a pretty open and cut case. There's even a witness that watched him doing it. He admitted to doing it to multiple people and the cops. Like, it's all it's all here, everybody. So because it's all here, he decides to do a plea bargain. Yeah. He decides that it's a bad decision to try to fight this and they said
Starting point is 01:35:48 the prosecutor talks to the court and says, yeah, trying to get a sentence when the knife broke. They say he went back to the car to grab another one and continue the attack. He said then he bragged about it. There were also admissions made on social media made by Mr. McGee specifically on
Starting point is 01:36:04 Facebook. So that specifically on Facebook. So that's pretty gross. They said that he is plea bargaining just to take the death penalty off the table. Really? That's all he asked for in the plea bargain. That's all they would get. Just spare me. Yep.
Starting point is 01:36:21 So the judge made it clear to him in this. He said, you do understand that in Florida, life without parole means life without parole. And he said, yes. So they're going to formally sentence him. And they do. The public defender explains the whole thing. And judge says,
Starting point is 01:36:38 you, sir, may fuck off. Life in prison without parole. So bye-bye, Brian McGee. He's there forever. Forever forever which might be good for everyone else i would say in the world oh man pretty fucked up now i saw there's like a couple things on youtube and it's really hard to tell if anybody's any good from one shaky
Starting point is 01:36:58 phone camera on fucking youtube this is not that great. From 2008 or 9 or some shit too. It was like, I can't tell if this guy's any good or not. And so I looked up and I saw on the one website, I think it's cagematch.net or something. They have all the, they have like their records of all their matches.
Starting point is 01:37:19 It'll be, you know, if a guy's famous, he'll have 45 pages of fucking matches of all of them with the results. And then they have comments at the end where people can comment on the wrestler and all that sort of thing. And they can rate them themselves from 0 to 10 in terms of their abilities. So here is one. This is from June of 2023, so a recent one.
Starting point is 01:37:41 They rated him 0 out of 0.0. So that's not good. I wish I could give him 0. Oh. At a 0.0. That's not good. Wish I could give him zero. They did. They did, yeah. He said, had a look that might have worked and a gimmick, but was never good in the ring. As a person, he seemed to be a hard one to work with,
Starting point is 01:37:58 and his murder convictions make him a black eye on the great sport of wrestling. Which has never been obviously besmirched before never never it's been up till now squeaky clean standing uh law yeah we don't have 14 15 episodes about murderers and you know fucking pimp wrestlers and guys fucking their daughters and killing people just just like any other sport. There's a bunch of assholes in it just like any other fucking one. Products of rape surprisingly have problems. Weird.
Starting point is 01:38:33 And, you know, guys have been hitting the head a lot. So next up, this is 0.0 stars again. He's not doing well so far for this rating. Uh-oh. So far he's averaging zero. Yeah. He said he's truly a despicable human being he's a murderer that's why he gets a zero rating he ruined it by being a murderer you know yeah
Starting point is 01:38:54 that's the exact answer yeah that's it next up though somebody gives him two stars oh two two rating 2.0 it says assets he's gonna run this down pros and cons okay assets had decent height and size for a prospect if that's not decent i don't know what the fuck is he's enormous held singles championships at lower levels managed to serve as a developmental prospect for a spell flaws wasn't the most toned athlete in the world you got an issue with his with his physique he's not ripped took a woman apart in her fucking common area of her apartment complex but if his if his pecs were a little more toned he might have gotten three he might not have needed a second knife you know what i mean he might have been able to really work it through
Starting point is 01:39:43 there yeah uh struggled with behavioral issues during and after his release i think that i don't know how true that is but that is uh maybe why they released him because pain in the ass he's a little nuts yeah is now imprisoned indefinitely following a conviction for a murder charge career potential now what career potential colon is no, and they say developmental major league prospect and solid independent circuit wrestler. There is no potential. He's in prison forever. Forever. His potential is to eat ramen noodles and drink toilet wine.
Starting point is 01:40:17 That's his potential. That's all he's got there. And trade in sexual economy. Yes. And the problem is Brian McGgee's a very common name oh god jesus yes i feel bad for bianca and her family and brian's wife because holy shit that's a bad day get called by the woman he's fucking who then he kills on the phone with you that's insane you've got to hear that not nearly as bad as i feel for b McGee, a Scottish drummer who played in Simple Minds.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Oh, is that right? Simple Minds, yes. There you go. One in a million girls. One in a million. Here's a murderer. Oh, that's the tubes. Yeah, that's a different one.
Starting point is 01:40:56 A murderer. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Oh. Yes, a man charged 12 days after a taxi cab driver was found shot to death in 2019 in Tucker, Georgia. Oh. This is, yes, Brian McGee was arrested on felony murder charges of shooting a man, Perez is his name, inside of his own taxi cab. And that was, that footage was released of the man who believed to be, so he shot the guy and then got caught on footage as well.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Idiot. Which is hilarious. very nice job and uh yeah they said it appears the only person that walked toward the taxi stand where mr perez was parked is a black male wearing a book bag he gets in the driver's side and sits behind him and that's him so he's booked on murder charges uh also brian mcgee another florida prisoner he's also i found him while looking while looking for brian's current status he is it says right at the top it says primary information and the first thing is designation and in blue letters sexual predator that's nice that's what you want your label to be look at that how'd you like that to be your label sexual predator first and foremost before
Starting point is 01:42:05 even your name yeah i want to tell you he's a sexual predator just so you know so um he's been released actually this guy sexual predators gotten out of jail but yeah still in there um another brian mcgee here looks like he stole a shitload of motorola batteries in 2001 from kenosha illinois or kenosha wisconsin i'll bet he stole it from a fucking motorola store there were all those like black ones that clicked out of the phone extra ones yeah you get the thicker one that lasted twice as long it would stick out of your phone all weird but still was great um that guy um another oh that's the guy who got killed uh the taxi driver guy too so yes there by the way uh oh
Starting point is 01:42:51 yeah no no never mind there was that so there you go everybody that is brian mcgee he sits to this day in a florida prison and uh i don't think he's going anywhere no i think he's staying there forever yeah i'm surprised he hasn't offed himself if i'm being honest with you but he might do well in prison though he might because you got structure there and he's got a bad attitude and bad behavior but perhaps they're the if you're monitored constantly maybe they can keep you on the path i act i actually thought of it the opposite way i think he's six foot seven 280 fucking oh he can be the king there and he's and he also you know he knows how to take he can fucking take a
Starting point is 01:43:31 bump and get up like he's a wrestlers are fucking tough they really are i mean that's physically they can take a beating they're pretty that's a great point that's gonna be a fucking formidable guy in jail like no one's gonna fuck with that dude in jail i don't think so he's gonna be uh guy in jail like no one's gonna fuck with that dude in jail i don't think so he's gonna be uh he might get the respect he never got yeah yeah he's on the outside who cares but on the inside it's all huge so there you go everybody that's brian mcgee let's ring the new year in with a murder and a real asshole too true putting the extra stank on of getting the other knife and stabbing her more is pretty fucked up i think think after he, after he worked it so hard, he broke it.
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