Crime in Sports - #432 - Fists Of Iron, Brains Of Pudding - Stephen Peat

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

This week, we check out a rough, brawling enforcer, on the ice, who had a hard time keeping it together, off the ice. He was drafted, and signed to different teams because of one main skill; fighting. He was involved in a few of the NHL's all time best brawls, but as soon as he was done with hockey, the effects of all those blows to the head became apparent. After he sets his house on fire, he ends up living on the streets, struggling to control the headaches. It's wild, but sad tale!fight 20 year old hockey players, when you're 19, have hockey denying that brain damage exists, then have a sad demise, complete with street crime & forgetting where you are, half the time, with Stephen Peat!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah, he definitely seemed to be hit a nerve with people, which is fun, because you remember that guy. Even if you're not a sports fan, you've seen Ghostbusters, so there you go. It's bizarre they cast him as himself. Yeah, they're like, be, but wear this. Wear this old school leather outfit, but just be yourself.

And then just be evil. Just like evil and you hate people, hate, hate, hate, you know how to do it, okay go. Hurt people. So this week though, we're gonna talk about Steven Boyd Peat, P-E-A-T is his last name. Steven Peat here. He is born March 10th, 1980 in Princeton, British Columbia because he is a hockey player

So yeah, you know Canadians gonna creep isn't that like a grass like a moss peat moss. Yeah, there you go Maybe he's Scottish the father Pete Are Irish one of the two I don't know Family crest yeah, it's all fuzzy mossy it's all mossy and fuzzy so yeah Princeton British Columbia so Western Canada here he's a big kid too when he grows up here 6 to 235 big old bruising hockey player man he's not a guy you'd want to trifle with I don't think you know as a normal human being anyway maybe in hockey but who knows Now his father's name is Walter.

His mother, by the way, will die early. She'll die young here, which is never, never good. And also explains a lot about if you grow up to be a hockey player, because that reminds me of Spinner Spencer, where like, remember Brian Spencer, who his dad had like an outsized influence on him and his dad was everything to him. His dad was the one that when they weren't playing the Leafs game, he went to the TV station with a rifle and said, put the Leafs game on right now. That's dad. So entirely these infamers.

Yeah. If you've never heard that episode, by the way, it's like our amazing in the 39, 40, 41, somewhere around there episode number. Holy shit. Was that a crazy episode? That's somebody that wants to make that a Show it should be yeah series. It really should be or a movie. She's even she's in I'm gonna have to touch base with her again

She's pretty important. Oh, pretty cool. He's hilarious. I mean, he's a wild son of a bitch. So anyway, he's he ends up moving to Langley British Columbia when he's about 14 and tries out for the Langley Thunder of the British Columbia Hockey League. Yeah, Canadians love thunder. They love that thunder. So I guess he one guy that knew him Howie Zarin, he was friends with a number of the older players and he said said that when he came in, Pete here at 14 years old, he made an impression on him. He said he wasn't huge, he was just tough. He was fighting 20-year-olds, and he was winning

more than he was losing. Jesus. That says something. At 14. Yeah, there's a big difference between 14 and 20 in terms of physicality. In terms of pubes, for fuck's sake, nevermind physicality. One man's-

The ability to throw a punch for Christ's sake. Yeah, one man's been laid before, you know what I mean? Yeah. Normally if you have a virgin fighting someone who's gotten pussy, the virgin is not gonna win. There's just something that comes with it. He doesn't get it. He doesn't understand.

Yeah, you get some ass in you and then all of a sudden, like, you know how to throw a punch, it's a different thing. It really matures It really is get some ass in you Yeah, get it in you like a McDonald's hamburger so Walter his dad described Stephen as a straight-a student as a child Sure and a high-scoring defenseman on all of his youth hockey teams

here. I guess he the father said he regrets letting Stephen end up in the Western Hockey League when he was drafted third overall the 1995 WHL Bantam draft. So basically the child's draft. We're drafting children instead of college. He ended up not even finishing high school. Instead of going to college, he's a straight-A student that doesn't finish high school because he's got that path. But the NHL is like tennis. If you're really good at 15, they want

you now. You know what I mean? They want you. But if something happens, then you got nothing. That's a problem. Then you got nothing. But you know, I mean, you got whatever you started with. You could always go back to school, I guess. But you got to take your chances, too, because... And it's Canada. This was not guaranteed to anybody. No, and it's Canada, so hockey is, you know... It's everything.

It's everything. It's the sun, it's the moon, it's everything. It's hockey and then Trudeau. That's what it is. That's it. I don't even know how they feel about their politicians Yeah, it's hockey and then I mean like maple flavored things is all I team maple Queen Queen and poutine. That's all they're into and fucking up french fries. That's what they like to do Destroying something that was perfect. Hey, this is great. It's crispy. It's crunchy. It's tasty What if we just poured shit all over it?

No, no not dip it in it. So it'll still be crispy. Just pour it all over it Require a fork make a french fry slurry out of this. Yeah weird shit and french fry I don't even know what to call it. It's just weird. Let's make American chili cheese fries Gross let's do that. The owner at House of Comedy there tried to get me to eat some poutine one time when I was doing these. Oh, you should get that.

I go, I'm not eating. I've smacked you eating. It looked disgusting. I'm not eating that. Oh, it's delicious. Like, no, don't ruin your French fries. Just give me French fries. Is it gravy or something?

It's a gravy. Yeah, it's like a weird, like a dairy gravy. I don't know what's going on. It's a gravy. Yeah, it's like a weird like a dairy gravy. I don't know what's going on. It's strange. So he He made the his junior hockey ice debut Pete did on December 27th And then he returned to Langley to play in the BC Jhl also So looks like here 95 96 for the Langley Thunder. He played in 59 games, had five goals, 15 assists. He's a defenseman. 112 penalty minutes, so there you go. Getting your penalty minutes on. Only played one game with the Red Deer Rebels there. Then in the next year, he joined the Rebels

full time because he's 16 now. So, you know, he's mature enough to be on it. He's a big guy. Yeah. Now he's 16. In his rookie season, season He had three goals 17 points and he had 161 minute penalty minutes. He's a fighter Our guy is a fighter here. He had a lot of injuries in 97 98 He had a broken middle finger on his right hand from me obviously from a preseason fight That's that's gonna happen and from not from a stick coming too high and glancing his finger Nope from a knuckle throwing someone's forehead. Yeah, that's what it was and He also had some knee even left hand problems and he's all injured here, but he was named to the CHL NHL top prospects game

That's pretty good here. Not too bad Here's there's an article on him in January 2nd, 1998 here, big article on him, and it says, Pete eager to beat opponents. That's it. They're talking about how he likes to beat the shit out of people. This is a funny headline here says, defenseman likes to use his fists. There's much more to Steven Pete than his ability to punch out an opponent. The 17-year-old Red Deer Rebels defenseman is big, mean, talented and tough, but injuries to both hands this season prevented him from laying down the law the best way he knows how and it's been eating him up.

Peat said, It's part of my game that's's missing I try to make up for it in other ways But some nights it's needed not being able to go out there and show some intensity by dropping the gloves I think I've handled it all right, but it's frustrating Can you imagine if every sport had that shit that is so amazing? I mean, I'm so unique to that sport half my game is punching people and I can't do that right now So it's really I mean like the goal is to Stand on skates and use a bent stick to knock a puck through the goal. That's how you win the goal Yeah, that's the or but you just beat the living shit out of that's the other thing you could do

It's so nuanced. You gotta yeah It is such a subtle game that That's the crazy part though. The real finesse game. It's like, the fighting a lot of times doesn't take place because two guys are pissed at each other. It's you did this to this other guy, so now I'm gonna do this to you, and then it's a very subtle balance of power.

He called his big brother. Yeah. It's the same thing as plunking a guy in baseball because he was being shitty, he took out your second baseman a little bit too hard, so now you plunk him and it's, you know. But if you plunk him a guy in baseball because he was being shitty. He took out your second baseman a little bit too hard. So now you plunk him and it's, you know. But if you plunk him and then he gets mad and there's a bench clearing riot, they throw people out and you're not allowed to play for the rest of the day.

Here they're like five minutes over there. Enough. Time out for you. Time out for you. But in baseball, you know, I don't know, like there's no other way in baseball because there's no physical interactions between the players generally. So there's no way to get back at somebody in baseball as you beat them with the ball. Like in football, you can tackle someone really hard and hockey, you can fucking check them

super hard into the boards. You can whack them. You don't need to fight because your physicality's allowed, but they fight as a part of the game. Yeah, but in baseball, if you do it, they oughta make you play without a shortstop for five minutes. That would be great. Power plays in baseball? Yeah, yeah, play without a center fielder for five minutes.

Or football too. Let's get power plays in football. That left tackle's coming out. Don't know what to tell you, quarterback. Fucking head on a swivel, I don't know. You betcha, you better. Maybe that's it. You seen what the car boys do?

Do that, run for your life. Run, bitch. So they say Pete, a superb scrapper, broke the middle finger on his right hand while thrashing Richard Peacock, Dick Peacock. Hell yeah. That's fucking hilarious. I like that.

That is awesome. Of the Prince George Cougars in a preseason contest. He then injured his left hand during a team practice and at one point was playing with two splints. He said it's different, something I've never had to deal with, and it's a long lasting injury although it's just a finger. He said it seems so stupid but it's been nagging me the whole year. If I get hit or something, the finger gets crunched and it hurts again. Plus, I can't grab my stick sometimes. It's just tough. Right. Yeah. They said Pete fought Spokane heavyweight like he's actually in a class. Like there's weight classes. Curtis Suter during a game during the Rebels West Division last swing last month and re-injured his left hand in the process But other than that one tilt he's been forced to back away from challengers. He has however been taking numbers

I'll get you when I heal bitch. Yeah. Yeah, he said at the beginning of the year I was getting jumped a lot of guys still want to fight me They may not know I have a broken hand and if they do know now if they do know they're trying to take advantage of that Fact by trying to take advantage of that fact by trying To throw me off my game, but the hand will heal in the next month, and I'll have two months to get them back Revenge tour here. Yeah He said they say there's a dark and clear circle on his calendar indicating the date in which he'll get the green light like Go punch somebody in the fucking mouth again

light. Go punch somebody in the fucking mouth again. Wyatt Earp's revenge ride. Wow. He said it should be okay by January 26th. January 28th is the date I'm looking forward to. We're in Regina that night. So oh boy. Watch out, Reginaians. He's going to be whipping some ass. Barring further injuries, Pete will be in the top shape for the CHL CHL prospects game next month in Toronto as projected first round pick in the next draft NHL draft. He's a virtual lock to be invited to the game at the Maple Leaf Gardens. He said by then I should be 100% and I should be able to play my game. His head coach Doug Hoppson expects to see a big improvement in Pete over the second

half of the season. He says I'm already seeing it He's getting healthy in the three games since Christmas. He's been one of our better defensemen playing the way we expect him to play I think he struggled through the first half for a lot of different reasons. He was unable to fight and that bothered him Really pisses them off really gets him man It's a part of his game that he enjoys and he gets a little more room because he's good at it It's a part of his game that he enjoys and he gets a little more room because he's good at it There's also a time. He was playing with two splints one on each hand that he had a bad knee It was just one thing after another including all the talk of being a high draft pick next year

You combine all those things and there were a lot of distractions for him during the first half of the season Makes sense. Okay. So yeah that year 189 penalty minutes in 63 games. Damn, he is doing it up. What kind of money is he pulling down in this? Not much for the miners, not very much. No, no. I think this is one of those like, I don't even know if they're, they might be in team housing, you know what I mean? Okay. Like it might be like a game, like a, yeah, like a slap shot situation where, you know know the Hanson boys are sharing a hotel room racing their slot cars So June 25th 1998 they're talking about him being a possible first round draft pick in the NHL draft

There's an article here saying according to central scouting red deer Rebels defenseman Stephen Pete will likely be picked in the second round of the Saturday's NHL draft in Buffalo Well, they have their draft in Buffalo. That's what's That says a lot about the NHL. They wonder why you're having your draft in Buffalo. That's why Why don't all these people watch cuz your drafts in Buffalo that doesn't sound like it matters. We know what's happening Yeah, fuck you doing having a Toronto. What are you doing? You know what I mean? Yeah, anywhere fuck man. There's so much right there. Yeah Coovers right there in it and on the west coast, but

What's over near Toronto Ottawa's there? Yes, NHL cities, you know Ottawa's somewhere in there So he said they said to you the general manager of the rebels said he could definitely go higher NHL teams all have their own scouts So he's ranked 30th among North American prospects by this group here at this time last year The Langley native was projected as a possible top 10 pick but his sophomore season wasn't as productive They said still the best scouts have long memories and Simpson Suspects the 18 year old made big enough impressions two seasons ago to warrant moving up to the first round

This guy says I feel he'll be a late first rounder somewhere between the 20th and 27th selection Okay. Now he is one of six guys on the team that they expect to be drafted to. Really? So they're gonna lose some dudes here. I got a good team. I gotta do gotta be a good team. So anyway, here we go. 1998 NHL draft Jimmy number one draft pick. As if I could pronounce that motherfucker's name. The look on your face was like, oh god, I didn't expect that. Oh no. Any one of the first ten draft picks, any one of them. Is there a Francois in there?

There is not. But the Tampa Bay Lightning first overall choose Vincent Lacavier. Yeah, I would have never been able to pronounce that. No, I don't know shit about that guy. Apparently played 1200 games in the NHL. That seems pretty good. Attaboy, Vince, get after it. Nashville then picked David Legwand.

Legwand. Yeah. And then Brad Stewart, Brian Allen, Vitaly Vizneski, Rico Fata, Manny Malhorda, Mark Bell, thank you Mark for making that up. Thanks. And Mike Rupp, Nick Antropov, holy shit there's all these guys. Anyway finally down at number 32 which is the fifth pick in the second round, the Anaheim Mighty Ducks or just the Ducks,

or whatever you want to call them, they choose Steven Pete. Steven Pete drafted by Disney. By Disney. The pick before him was Artem Chubarov. So I don't know who that is. You could have had Artem Chubarov, and you'd pick, come on. So yeah, I've heard of like four guys

on this entire draft list. I don't know any of these guys. I don't I've heard of like four guys on this entire draft list I don't know any of these guys. I don't know enough hockey to really know don't look at me that much Originally projected very high but doesn't go that high. He will He's gonna come to the NHL though. He's drafted. He's ready to go every Canadian boys dream here It's there it is like playing quarterback for the Cowboys you know when the Cowboys were still considered a team that wasn't hilarious to laugh at when they when they won a Super Bowl more than once every 30 years you know that 30 years next year they won it 96 from the 95 season. So 30 year anniversary of their ineptitude coming up.

Wow. Yeah. I've never seen a team go from a dynasty to never going back again for 30 years. That's really incredible. Their owner was a young man. If he'd have have died then they'd have felt bad for him that he was so young and had so much All the all the 18 year old strippers that he has sex with were slightly less grossed out back then by him slightly Is he 90 how old fucking old is that? He's old as fuck He wasn't that old when he bought the team, but I mean he bought the team in 1988 Holy shit, he was only born in 42? He looks like hell.

Yeah, well he's fucking 80. 82 years old, yeah. 82. Yeah, he looks like dog shit. That's too bad. So grace here for Steven. Yeah. We're gonna go with grace right here, I think.

So 98-99, after attending camp with the Ducks he returns to the Rebels for the 98 99 season where he is named one of four rotating assistant captains okay he had two goals eight points and 488 penalty minutes for them that year oh 488 penalty minutes I guess his hands feel better Wow, the rebels then trade him to the Tri-City Americans So he's owned by an NHL team But then he plays for a minor league team and they can trade him at will around the miners, which is yeah There's no like structure. I don't think to NHL Whereas like if the Yankees draft you and they you go to their minor league team the Hudson Valley

Renegades can't trade you to another minor league team. You're in the Yankees draft you and you go to their minor league team, the Hudson Valley Renegades can't trade you to another minor league team. You're in the Yankees farm system, whereas this is like, there's no farm system type deal it seems like. It's just the miners and then you get, it's weird. So he goes to the Tri-City Americans and he played five games for them and strained an abdominal muscle and was out for the rest of the year. So only 117 penalty minutes that year, which is obviously well below his potential for 117 and five games.

No, that was altogether 36 games. So you know, well below his potential for fuckery. You know what I mean? Certainly. 99 2000 he played 12 games with the Americans during that season with two assists, 48 penalty minutes that he was traded again to Brett the Hitman Hearts hockey team, the Calgary Hitmen. So we have crime and sports crossovers here. Not that Brett did anything, but we have more sports people that we've talked about from

everything I've seen. He doesn't. I've never, I haven't heard anything crazy about Brett as far as you know Perhaps he well he had enough time because he was a fucking superstar and then ever with that screw job then a long time became he was kind of Really had a stroke there in the late 90s to yeah, Bill Goldberg kicked a stroke into his head and That wasn't good, so that's what stopped him from wrestling, was the stroke and the concussions. He stopped doing it because of that.

And then, yeah, so he's, yeah, he's good at hockey. Well, that was before that. That's why he went to WCW to get kicked in the head by Goldbergers. Because he was going anyway, but then the screwdriver was the last, sorry, the last WW email. That was their send-off, fucking jokes.

That was the send-off. January 5th, 2000 here, Calgary Herald has a little article on him and it just says memorable is the title and it says, pacifists be damned. The first period set to between Calgary's Steven Peat and Lethbridge's Eric Goddard was a beauty. The two principals adhered to the code of the West by dropping their helmets and gloves at the Hitman blue line before exchanging the toe-to-toe blows. In the end, Pete picked up the decision by using a constant flurry of rights with a few timely lefts thrown in for good measure.

Just, yeah, just to rock his head a little. They covered that like it was a boxing match. Yeah, that's an hockey game. That is Calgary. That's good shit there. Canada's fun. So he's going to miss more time this season with a hip injury and some suspensions and also this incident that happens here.

February 3rd, 2000. Jesus Christ. Pete out of lineup after stabbing incident is the headline. What? That's interesting. Let's see here. Calgary hitman, defenseman Steven Pete will be out of action for at least another week after suffering a stab wound to the lower abdomen at a local nightclub last week.

He went out and got stabbed. He got shanked in a Canadian nightclub. My God. Jesus Christ. Pete, the 19-year-old Western League hockey veteran, 19-year-old veteran hanging out at a bar getting stabbed. 19 and veteran, those don't go together. Those don't go together.

That's not a way to start a sentence. And normally, 19-year-olds don't get stabbed at bars, either, so this is all fucked up. This is the most Canadian shit I've ever heard here. Where was it, though? Because in in Quebec you can drink at 18. I think in Canada 18 is the Some place I think it's oh, I don't thought it was not the whole country I thought that was the legal age everywhere there like not the whole country. No, okay. No, Mexico. It's 19 or American cash in your hand one of the two. Yeah drawing wind and have can can afford cash in your hand. One of the two. Yeah. Drawing wind and have can can afford cash in your hand.

That'll do it. Alive and able to swallow. He knows how to pronounce to Katay. Let's give him one. I bought beer on the beach at 16. I bought beer when I was 13 in Mexico. So I've took me to I got beer when I was 13. My stepfather made me do it just to see if they would sell it to me. I just went up with money and I was like two ticates and he was like $3. I was like no problem. Didn't even fucking look at me twice. I was 13 year old child. Unbelievable and it tasted so good and disgusting. Cold on the beach. Yeah, that's why. And you if you can buy beer when you're a child, it doesn't matter what beer it is, it tastes perfect.

We just made a transaction here and you're not gonna call somebody about it? All right, I'm in. This is great. And then I realized, you know, in New York, there was a lot of places that were pretty much the same way. Probably could do it too, yeah.

You could just buy 40s wherever you wanted. No one cared. There's millions of people there. There's too much shit happening. No one gave a shit. Get in and get out of here. So they say the 19- old Western League veteran was stabbed at outlaws nightclub early last Thursday After trying to prevent an altercation between a teammate and a group of strangers. I find that hard to believe

The guy who is a painting cannot wait to fight was trying to break up a fight Between a teammate and he didn't jump in on the teammates side and say we'll kick all your asses. He said hey guys let's let cooler heads prevail. We're all probably dangerous weapons in here let's not get anybody hurt. Yeah please god forbid everyone come on. We fight every night with guys that are willing to fight. Big professional athletes are willing to fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a drunk 40 year old. I'm going to kill you.

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Pete was treated immediately at Foothills Hospital and released the next day, but hitman general manager Kelly Cascio wouldn't comment on the severity of his injury, which presumably caused the Richmond, BC native to miss three hitman games last weekend, although a nagging hip hip injury was given as the cause of his absence at the time. The general manager said the incident is under investigation right now by the police and I can't comment on it since it might hurt their investigation. Can't comment. Also, let's just say his hip hurts and move on. He wasn't out hanging out at bars and all that.

He got poked. A guy named Richard Ward Paye who's 20 years old has been charged with assault with a deadly weapon and three counts of being unlawfully at large. So he took off too. But I mean, if you're gonna fight a hockey team, you better bring your knife. Probably, yeah. If two hockey guys wanna fight me,

I'm stabbing one of them every time. It's interesting that at 20, he's willing to fight hockey players. He probably plays hockey too. It's Canada. It's Canada. He at least, it's Calgary too. He's at least like a fucking oil field worker or some other crazy tough insanity. People aren't in Calgary doing office work, are they? They're all out there in a field somewhere doing some crazy shit.

It's somebody doing something hard and then hot chicks that are banging them and hockey players. That's it. That's all that's there. So March 15th, 2000, he's back playing again and there's an article and this title is The Blunder and it says, Stephen Pete was lucky to receive just 12 minutes in penalties during a bizarre first period incident involving referee Derek Herman. Pete gave a retaliatory whack to Regina center Matt Hubber in the neutral zone that would eventually be called at 1629, but then carried on and cross checked

Herman in the back. Herman's a referee. He cross checked a referee. Not good. Wow. Earning himself a 10 minute misconduct. You get thrown out of the league for that in any other league. You can't attack with a weapon? With a weapon? The ref's got a whistle. You've got a stick.

Holy shit, I can't imagine that. I mean, I've seen in baseball guys bump chests. They're suspended for like a fucking week for that. Imagine if he took the bat to him, what he would get suspended for. In the NFL, if you touch the ref's arm, because people try to get their attention, you're out.

That's crazy. You're out of here. Yeah, the NFL's fucking ridiculous though. That's why it's unwatchable, partly, because of that. Shit like that. There's a lot of reasons, yeah. Shit like that is ridiculous. It's so stupid.

So stupid, I can't. I'm not sure what their goal is. Do you know what I mean? To get ladies to like the NFL. Is that what it is? That's been the to like the NFL. Is that what it is? That's been the goal for the ladies.

They stated that 30 years ago. Really? We're only selling to half the population. Why? Men don't like football no matter what we do. Make it more woman friendly, which is fine, but unless you change the entire fucking game. That's interesting because they had women watching. Yeah.

They're called hostages. But yeah. I don't know. That's interesting because they had they had women watching. Yeah But yeah, I don't know that lady in KC had a tattoo from her wrist to her from her ankle to her knee Yes, she did but that's a that's a team that that's what they do. That's what they do and there's nothing else in that town either So that's the other thing If you've been to Kansas City Everyone you'll just walk in and people go hey you hear did you hear that Mahomes is practicing well this week? And you're like, fuck you, who cares? It's all they talk about. It's like that's their family.

She had a tattoo on her like, she had a tattoo on her tooth, James. Dude, yeah, she was wild, man. I've never seen anything like that. She's, she's wild. It's amazing. Her daughter was very, shaking her head. Very enthusiastic. Her daughter was like, oh boy, my mom's nuts. Nice lady though,

very nice. So March 17th, 2000, he's going to be suspended for pushing the referee. That seems fair. He's been handed a three game suspension by the Western Hockey League for pushing Derek Herman with a stick. Can't do that here, apparently. They said it was more out of frustration with the play and The referee being right in front of him that the contact was made still the officials are untouchable by players That's what a team spokesman said. Yeah, you can't go after the fucking refs They can't be physically afraid of the players and have a really hard of this No, and any league number you're on skates

You're big and you know, you have pads on the refs don't and the NBA the guys are 611 They're gonna fucking stand over a guy. That's 510 and intimidate him and football a pads on to be crazy So that year for the Calgary hitmen and the trice city Americans. He has a hundred forty eight penalty minutes Not bad. No goals 18 or ten assists So in June 2000 the mighty ducks who haven't used them at all Trade him to the Washington Capitals Yep in exchange for a fourth round pick In the 2000 draft and so he signs with the with Washington here

2000-2001 he's on the Portland Pirates. I 2001 he's on the Portland Pirates I Was Washington's it's Washington's American Hockey League, which I didn't know existed for the 2002-2001 season He's an enforcer obviously and they want to they're trying to increase their first physical presence as a team Basically, so he ends up aggravating a groin injury during training camp and underwent surgery to add surgical mesh to his groin He got vaginal mesh. Yeah, the on his groin to stop it. Yeah poppin. Oh Yeah, man

Vaginal mellows just reminds me of 30 Rock take that prolapse Jenna doing the vaginal mesh commercials oh god okay so he got that for like muscle to keep it yeah keep it in place basically right like a what do they call that when they're going your fucking muscle comes through or when your intestines come through your muscle like like a hernia all that got hernia yeah there you go hernia. Like a hernia. There's the word. Yeah, there you go. Hernia, that thing we're all terrified of. One of those. Every man on the planet probably has one and is afraid it's going to get worse. Doesn't care,

just lets it go. So yeah, he's been sent to a specialist here in November of 2000 a specialist here in November of 2000 for two weeks for rehabilitation and strength maintenance for his deal here. They say he sustained now they're saying they think the 1999 injury was a pelvic stress fracture. That was his hip injury they're saying. They might not have realized it at the time and that he's had problems since and they said he re-aggravated his groin so he's just been a fucking messy his legs are a disaster his hands work now but his legs are all fucked up so that year here the Portland Pirates he doesn't really play much only a 16 penalty minutes see you know he wasn't playing very much 2000 2002 or 2001 2002 same thing 57 penalty minutes in 17 games and then he ends up

on the Washington Capitals. Here you go Go into the NHL, baby. Here we go. Not bad. The Capitals are 36 33 11 and 2 that year What oh two is that overtime wins, how do they do that? Because it's wins losses did your ties, right? It's wins losses ties and there's the last one overtime wins? Is that how they work it? Because there's four numbers here. Whoa, were there not four there? There are 36, 33, 11 and two they are. So the two I don't know what the fuck that means anymore. Whatever. Shootouts? Maybe that's what I mean. Win by shootout. That's what I'm thinking possibly. Finished second in the NHL Southeast Division, which the NHL shouldn't even have a Southeast

Division. The Southeast Division should be fucking Boston, New York, Pittsburgh, Philly, that should be the Southeast for hockey. Not fucking Miami. Nashville and Miami. No, Carolina, Atlanta. Get the fuck out of here, there's no ice there. Atlanta has a team.

The Thrasher's, yeah. That's right. But I guess they do well though. These teams are successful down there. People like hockey, fuck it I guess. If they're into it. I mean Nashville's. Is it not a Mississippi or Alabama team?

There's not a Mississippi or Alabama team for anything. For any professional sport. Isn't that wild? Yeah, well when you're in the bottom three in everything economic, that's what happens. Nobody goes there to do anything. Yeah. When's the last Alabama or Mississippi show we played? Exactly.

We've never played one. Have we? No, we never really. I guess is the only one that would. Yeah. No, thanks. Nashville's right there. Come up there.

Y'all can drive on up to Nashville. Okay. Sorry. Sweet Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Motherfuckers kept electing George Wallace. I'm not coming there. Suck my dick. Suck my guinea dick. It ain't happening. Yeah, I hold grudges 50 years later. That's alright. From shit that happened before I was born don't care done I've seen I've heard tell and seen videos not a nice man Plus I've been in the south and been asked you some kind of Jew or something so I don't need that from people

Never mind It is an interesting play yes, it is. I'm good on that. Nashville's south enough for me. That's good. That's right. That's right. I'm telling you. So that was the guy that was on TV with Muhammad Ali, right?

Muhammad Ali? Was he on, was he the guy? He's the guy that kept running for fuck, he's the governor of Alabama that kept running for president as a Democrat under the segregation ticket basically. I think he was the one on TV arguing with Muhammad Ali. I would love to see Muhammad Ali rip him a new asshole in an argument because I'm going to look it up.

I think that's who it was. Wow. Yeah. He's a real piece of shit. They just kept electing him till he fucking a pretty good conversation. Till he fucking died. I've gotta look that up now. I want that. So this year, I'd give you the roster,

but there are so many European accent marks and shit that I don't even know who the fuck is on this team. Craig Billington, I can pronounce that. Sergei's? There's a Sebastian here, a Sylvian, a Jacob with a UB, an Ulf. We got an Ulf. ULF? Yeah, like not even Samuelson either, a new Ulf. That's fucking funny.

ULF sounds like a band on your television. Yeah, it does. ULF? ULF, yeah. God damn. Well, there was another guy from the eight and nineties I remember. I know like nineties, eighties hockey players from the ones that were on video games when I was 12.

That's who I know because I played that. But otherwise I don't know shit about it. Jean Francois, 14. Hell yeah, there's a Francois. There's a Sergei. Sergei Gunchar. There we go. Fuck yeah.

Fuck yeah. Got him. We got a Benoit Hogo, Jarmir Jagger. I know him obviously. Jager. He's really good. All right.Yarmir Yager. I know him obviously. Yager. He's really good. All right.

That's Trevor Linden. I remember him from video games. He used to be on Vancouver back in the fucking day on video games. Trevor Linden, if I remember. Yeah. Let's see. Yeah, that's who we have here. So, I don't know any of these people generally.

Just a few of them. Anyway, he makes his NHL debut on October 8th, 2001. He plays three minutes and 54 seconds and a four to nothing loss to the Bruins. They probably put him in garbage time when the game was over. They called him up for this game because they didn't have an enforcer of the Capitals and they anticipated facing a very physical opponent. So they brought him there. But he's going to end up being sent back down here. He only plays in 38 games for Washington that year. But he makes, looks like, $754,617.

That's marvelous. Not too shabby. And we do have here, he fought dozens of times against all sorts of fucking people. What's thought of as that season's best fight he fought against PJ Stock. And I have the footage of that. PJ Stock and Steve Peat fought the best fight of the year. Not even a Sergey in the mix. This is from what the Espies or some shit?

Who gave them the best fight? Just thought of hockey people really. They do that. Hockey. So I'll show you what's going on here all right we got a face off we got a face off yeah there were some other shit going on before them oh they just fucking just he just like they were in a conversation and Pete just like casually socked them in the face. They are working each other.

Oh boy, that is a great fight. That's work them sock them robots. It is. They're holding each other with one arm and beating the piss out of each other with the other arms. Standing straight. Wow. Barely moving around on the ice just just giving each other everything. Wow!

That's a real fight. They both connect at the same time. Yeah, they're just pummeling each other. Pete's still got his helmet on for Christ's sake. They finally break it up. Are you proud of yourself? Golly! Is he the goalie? No, no, no. Pete had a big smile on his face as he went off the ice. He didn't even see this.

He was like, all right, that's a good time. Wow. Look at the fans cheer and this is what they want. High five in each other. Shit, look at his eye. Yeah, his eye. That's the other guy is stocked his eye. Is that coming out of the eye or is there a cut?

Under his eye. He's got a nice cut there. So that's one fight. We got a couple more that we'll watch from Steven here. Hell yeah. Over the years. That was a good one, shit. They stood there toe to toe,

hold onto each other. Landing blows on each other at the exact same time. Jacking each other. They both took, ate every fucking one of them. Yep, they both took it and stood there and just delivered on each other so they both took every eight every fucking one of them. Yep. They both took it Stood there and just delivered on each other. So which sounds gross. They delivered on each other. Yeah, that sounds Sounds like some Aaron Hernandez stuff, which is much different By the way, is everyone watching the Aaron Hernandez thing? I haven't watched it yet. It's I didn't okay

it's fine number one the kid that plays him he does a fine job as like an actor. But I guess it would be hard to find an actor with the physicality of Aaron Hernandez, because Aaron's body was a Mac. He was fucking ripped. And this kid's like kind of pudgy. He's just kind of he doesn't look like an NFL player. You know what I mean? He's just kind of pudgy and doesn't really look the part

Yeah, how are you gonna get somebody with that that his Aaron's body was unbelievable? They also have to be willing to spend half the series making out with dudes also, so that's oh, is that right? It's it's mainly about him being gay like that's the main The main thrust of that I'm not saying that for good or ill or whatever the fuck, if that's what it is. Imagine all the things that are about Aaron. Everything is, it's all about him being gay, dude. It's like a Super Bowl champion, a murderer. Also we're going to spend three hours with him fucking dudes.

Fucking dudes. His boyfriend dumped him and that seemed to be the way they did it, they portrayed it in this last episode was that was the catalyst for him shooting people and killing two people the first time was because he was pissed off that his boyfriend dumped him that night. While he was out baby clothes shopping with his fucking fiance, he got a tag, the dude called him was like, I can't talk to you anymore Text of it babies. Yeah, it was for real. That's exactly what it was and then he got all mad and shot people They did have a very romantic weekend in Cabo

So they did that they showed that was the opening of the episode was them like fucking in cut It's a lot of him fucking guys like which again don't care either way. I just didn't know that Well when we heard it and when we did all the research and everything it was like, you know He's on the Patriots and he's also a criminal and then oh, he did some gay shit too. Okay, great. This is like The reason for everything is cause of he wants cock. He just needs cock. That's what I don't know.

So cock thirsty, he kills people. He'll kill people over it. It's wild. He's horny to death. Murderous rage for cock. Because his boyfriend dumped him while he's got a fiance and a baby and all this shit but that doesn't matter it's so funny it's fucking weird you think he would play casual you know what I mean if he's

trying to do a download type of thing well fuck you doing man that's all I'm saying is Blake play it off better not. You can suck as many dicks as you want. That's none of my business. So 2002 2003 capitals, they go third out of 39 29, eight and six, again, second in their division. And I don't know any of these people again, same same shit here. But he does have a good fight. So let's find this fight from this year here I got it right here it should be this one this is 2003 is that where we are correct so I have the right one yes 2003 Stephen Pete versus Wade Belloq here Oh, here we go. Oh, they're ready to fight already.

Shit. There we go. They're circling each other, hands up in the air. It's like a heavyweight fight. That stance is great. Oh yeah, they are. Oh, they're throwing jabs? This is a boxing match.

Yeah. This isn't even a fucking... There we go. Just looking for the opening. He grabbed the neck. Golly, there it is. He's getting beat. Oh, and okay. Yeah, this isn't even a fucking there we go looking for the opening Golly there it is. He's getting beat. Oh The other guy always gets the first few shots in and then he just beats the show he knocked his helmet off with punches He is beating. Oh He hit him with like 12 laughs and then a few rights, yeah, and. And he's almost stopped like, are you, you want more motherfucker?

What are we doing? He's laughing. You can see he's laughing. He smiles and go, you want more of this bitch? You want this heat? He's big smile on his face. Well, yeah, he's pummeling a blonde man. I'm not afraid of you.

You've dyed blonde hair. Oh, he elbowed Pete in the face. Do you see that? He came up to check it. Is that what started it? That's what started it. Is it not even this game? In a different game it happened. The last time they played. And then Pete, then Pete got him back in another game and then in this game they're fighting. So that is fucking awesome. That was a good fight. Pete never forgets. No, that's a long memory here.

Pete has the memory of an elephant this guy. He's not fucking around here. He's making a list. And he's also making $917,612 that year. So that'll make you smile. Not too bad here. He does, what is his penalty minutes this year? Um, 57 that year So he's only playing in uh, what 27 games. So not bad

2003 2004 2346 10 and three the team is are terrible fifth in the in their division not very good at all here I will skull past their roster because I don't know any of these people, but I do have another fight for you If you'd like to see okay sure let's see another fight from Steve here. This is from the 2003 2004 season I believe and This is what date is this? 2004 January 17th 2004 Steven Pete versus Rob scar Scrawlick

black Scrawlick Scrawlick AC that's too many consonants in a row. Sorry, you gotta have a Y in there or something if you want that many consonants I can't deal with that. All right. Let's see what we got here Somebody fall down. Yeah, there's gonna be I see up. I see gloves on the. Yeah, there's going to be a... That's where it is. I see, oh, I see gloves on the floor. Gloves on the ice. Heavyweight stroke. It's fascinating.

He just... Oh, Pete! Oh my God. Oh shit. Oh my God. He just throws blows, man. And drilling him square in the ear. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

You wonder why this guy got stabbed. stabbed you want to fight this guy in a bar no god no and he punches until the helmet falls they don't take the helmets off no punches it off he punches your helmet off that's the second fight in a row smashing him in the side of the fucking head oh god damn Oh god damn. Oh God damn. Oh

Give up dude Does that guy really think he's gonna win this fight now he's got the jersey off now. He's good now He's free takes his own. Yeah, the refs are gonna get in. Yeah, you gotta stop it. Yeah, what's gonna kill him? Yeah, because once peak got it once they got Pete's Jersey off now He's free to swing like crazy because the guy can't hold on over anymore Look at him. No Jersey walking off just some pads on this guy's all jacked up Wow That was something right there. That's all shit. That was wild. So Pete this dude is tough That was wild so Pete this dude is tough

He certainly can eat punches man and for such a big he's a big fuck too Like that is not a guy you'd want to fight in a bar. No, he'll just pummel you huge guy I mean he took probably in the last fight that he beat the shit out of the guy He probably took you know ten good blows right to the face and just had a big smile on his face Just couldn't wait to keep fighting. Like, fucking unbelievable. That's impressive. That year was in 2003-2004. He only has 90 penalty minutes, but he makes $845,988.

Not bad. He's making just shy of a mill every year. Pretty good shit here. 2004-2005, the NHL season was cancelled due to a lockout. Because they were like, hmm, we have the least amount of fans of any major North American sport, let's make it worse. Let's make it so we don't even get a regular TV contract for like eight more years. Let's chase some of that away.

Yeah, let's get rid of those people. We were starting to gather some casual fans. Let's get rid of all of them. We don't need them. So Pete was one of a lot of NHL players to sign with another league because we're gonna make some money and stay in shape. So he had offers from European teams,

but he elected to play with the Danbury Trashers. Hell you go. What? Is that right? Of United Hockey. Absolutely. Now we are so excited because we have done a bonus episode on the Danbury Trashers.

And I remember them talking about getting Steve and Pete, and it was like a big deal for them because he was so fucking tough and that's what we want. We remember they just wanted guys who fight. So they got Pete, they got a bunch of these other, you know, enforcers and thugs and everything else they could find here. Was Pete in the fucking documentary?

He was in the absolutely Absolutely. He was yeah because he was one of the NHL guys they brought in to be a thug That was right big name and then they got Gretzky's brother Gretzky's brother Trasher signed Gretzky's brother in tiny letters Pete Gretzky here he is I'm not a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan.

I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan.

I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan.

I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I'm a football fan. I guy was just like a I think a regular monster And then a yeah like a minor league shithead basically lunatic. Yeah minor league lunatic. Exactly So after four seasons with the Capitals, he has eight goals and two assists in four seasons 234 penalty minutes here. He is traded on December 28th 2005 to the Carolina Hurricanes on December 28 2005 to the Carolina Hurricanes. So he was assigned to the Lowell Luck Monsters and played three games there before sustaining a season-ending groin and abdominal injury. Goddamn. He'll never play for the Hurricanes by the way ever. Really? Nope, never. He has

injuries to his groin, pelvis, neck and a broken hand that will basically keep him in the AHL. Whenever they think about bringing him up, he hurts himself again and he can't be brought up again. Playing in Massachusetts, is that where he's at? I believe so, yeah. Was it the Lowell? Yeah, it's got to be Lowell, Massachusetts. So he makes no NHL salary 2004, 2005, obviously.

2006, the Lowell Lock Monststers and the Hershey Bears. He plays a total of eight games that year. Oh my god his career's coming to an end. Not much. Yeah it's not going well for him I can tell you that much right now. So on the NHL after the 2005-06 season he's done in the NHL. He'll never play in the NHL again. So he made a career total of,

oh, that was in today's, okay. He made a career total of $1.9 million. $900,205 in his whole career, which is equivalent to $3,251,057 now. So not a lot of money at all. No, but it's certainly more than a fucking electrician will make over his lifetime.

I mean, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, $1.9 million. Yeah, but I mean, if you think about how much of that is taxes, agent, this, that. Yeah, it's a little fast. Yeah, this guy better learn his fucking trade. Electrician job looks pretty good. Yeah, this guy better learn a goddamn trade

is what I'm saying. Get a garbage root or a bread route or some shit. Make some real fucking money. He's going to be happy to be fixing fuses pretty soon. So 2006, seven in the A H L is when he's with the Albany River rats and they are the New Jersey devils, A H L affiliate. So they have their own little minor league team there.

And he plays for them and he has one game and no stats. Yeah. That's it. Now it says he retired in 2007, but then there's an article here from 2008, October 2nd, 2008. We don't know that he played, but he agrees to terms with the Phoenix Roadrunners. Oh is that right? Do they still

have them in Phoenix? No right? No. Right? I remember them as a kid the ads for the game. Yeah the coyotes left town so if the Roadrunners didn't follow they should fucking hightail. Well maybe they should come back now. There's a there's I mean there might not be 20,000 fans that'll see them. They certainly left a void. But there might not be 20,000 fans that'll see them we left a void Yeah, but maybe there'll be six seven thousand fans will come out for the games to watch it You know, it's crazy too. Is that Phoenix was becoming a hub for hockey which is fucking shocking a according to According to all of hockey they like they this was a it was a destination

For children to start growing up and because there's nothing else They could just play hockey all the time there were there's ways There's people in the NHL that were born and raised in Phoenix, Arizona James. Yes, they had to be extremely wealthy kids Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah Player Phoenix is you have to pay for shitloads of ice time. Yes, they're not all scots-sail kids and for shitloads of ice time. Yes, there's North Scottsdale kids and Northwestern U.S. kids. I'd still take Calgary and Edmonton

as more of hubs for hockey players, where the kids can just go outside and play. Absolutely, but there are thousands of children in Phoenix that are playing hockey now. There's a whole league that travels. Yeah, and their parents are gonna realize just because they're wealthy doesn't mean they have any hockey talent when they get to a level

at some point. I can afford to pay for all that shit But there's some Canadian kid that goes in his yard that has 10 times more talent than you But it was that the it was that the the coyotes would have those guys would have their kids wanting to be in a league So that that's what I think that's why it formed that because it was Children of hockey players that want and then other kids want to play with there's there's a level of fame fucker in Arizona that is crazy it's crazy Phoenix is very pathetic like that we're like it's anybody's gonna have a little else they're like oh my god you moved here and now you know you're the king of the world and it's

it's really like I play with I mean I did when I was a kid too because I would play basketball at Cedric DeBallos' house, and kids would brag about that. And I was like, I don't know, it's right down the street, but yeah, that's where we play. Phoenix too, there's no celebrity mystique to Phoenix. No. Because everybody's just there. So everybody that lives there has been in the supermarket

with guys from the Suns and shit like that. You're just like, oh, there's that guy from the Suns. It's not a big fucking deal. Nobody gives a shit. Unless it was Barkley or something, that's when they cared, because he was an international superstar. But nowadays-

We would show up at Tomasso's with Madonna. Yeah. Like, nobody cares. But it feels like in other cities, like the guys are more celebrities. Like, look at like Ohtani in LA or something. There's no equivalent in Phoenix. Or like Aaron Judge in New York. I can't walk down the fucking street. Like, there'shtani in LA or something. There's no equivalent in Phoenix or like Aaron Judge in New York.

I can't walk down the fucking street. Like there's Phoenix, nobody cares that much. Basketball now too, the players don't fucking be, they're not part of the community. Like Booker doesn't even live in Phoenix. He lives in fucking LA. No, they all used to live in Camelback. So all you had to do was go to that 40th Street Fries and you'd see every basketball player there was.

But they don't even participate in the community anymore. You would be able to see Tom Chambers and Marley and you'd see them out in the... They all had restaurants. Yeah, yeah, there's that too. You'd see Barclay out enjoying things here. All the time. Now, I mean, you can see... I worked with Jackson's on 30. He was down, hanging out all the time, downtown. Yeah, yeah. They don't do that now.

No, no. It's fascinating. Yeah, now they're too rich for it. Yeah. But there is a level of like, fame fucker of like, with the hockey teams, kids like brag to their other friends that they play hockey with Jeremy Roenick's kids. Yeah, and that's what's crazy is you

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So he's gonna get drunk once in a while and what kick starts a percocet like Really gets it working. Yeah, and cocaine also because you got to be able to still do things you got to be able to function You drink booze and whiskey will make you sleepy. Yeah, you take booze and percocets You're not fucking going anywhere, but you put some coke into that now. You're ready to go grocery shopping Let's get to the store. Let's do this. So you want everything? Yeah, I guess he had been prescribed percocet throughout his playing career I just continued to use them and he also has chronic headaches from playing also Which doesn't shock me because in just the three fights we watched I saw him be hitting the head about forty six times rocked rocked in the fucking head with another guy just standing right in front of him plowing him in the face with a fucking fist and so dazed he's smiling

that yeah just loves it so he started doing odd jobs including as a bouncer which should be a great bouncer hell yeah yeah. But headaches were a constant problem, constant headaches from this. So this is not sounding good for his future. No, honestly. I'm sorry. This is I mean, because honestly, the guy he came up as a Canadian and he's an enforcer, he's encouraged to fight, he's doing fine. And this is what you, you know, you got to feel bad for a guy who never even got like to the level of making so much money that he could take care of himself. And now he's a bouncer with fucking CTE like this sucks. That's bad for him.

He took it that elbow shot that he took that instigated a fight three games later. He was out cold. You saw him on the ice unconscious for Christ's sake. He helicoptered on the ice. Yeah, he fell down unconscious and could have hit his head on the ice too when he fell and then he's getting punched in the face. And imagine since he's been playing hockey how many times he's had been punched in the face. It's just crazy. So he's got his problems. He is gonna kick around for a few years doing odd jobs, being a bouncer, having his headaches. He's not going to really become newsworthy again until 2015.

Okay, 2015. He's in a lot of trouble. He's going to be charged with arson following a fire at his home that he shares with his father in Langley, British Columbia. He turned himself in and was charged with arson with disregard for human life and arson causing property damage Oh boy, the fire broke out here It's the 4400 block of 208 a street on March 17th just before 11 p.m. The the Corporal for the fire department here said police had determined there was a dispute at the home between the father and the son So wasn't an accident. He tried to burn his father out of a house. Oh my god. Later that evening after the father went to bed, a passerby spotted someone attempting to start a fire outside

the home. Jesus. He's just out there rubbing two sticks together in the corner of the house in the front yard like hey guys. So they said quote, a passerby witnessed the arsonist as he was lighting the fire and made attempts to thwart his efforts. Hey, don't set that house on fire. Spray in a hose at it. That's the difference between Canada and America right there. They'd actually go, Hey, don't set that house on fire. Whereas we would slow down to video and go this crazy motherfucker setting a house on fire and then post it on Instagram. That would be our response to that. I watched a documentary. I'm going to get lots of hits on this shit. There was a man that killed, oh, it was one of those, uh, terrible roommate things, but a man chopped up two people and threw them in a bay. And then people were

making, they, they called the police and then we're making ticks with the suitcases before the police arrive. Yes, that's where we are. That's where we are, man. Jesus Christ. That's where we are, no matter what happens. Making a TikTok with body parts. It's fucking crazy. It's fucking crazy. Yeah.

We're, the attention seeking has gotten out of fucking hands. It's too much, it's too much. I'll tell you what, there's about.02% of the people in this country that should get attention from the national, from the public. They're called talented people. Right. You're probably not one of them

if you're listening right now. That's probably true, yeah. So you should probably, and that's fine. We're not famous either, it's fine. We're not, and I don't give a shit because I don't think I'm. I'm not looking for that. I can't dunk from the foul're not I don't give a shit cuz I don't know think I'm not looking for that I can't dunk from the foul line. I don't have any of these things that Like you know what I mean, so yeah, what the fuck these people think that they should I should be famous, too

Yeah, it's no you shouldn't it's just a guy named George with his camera Yeah, suitcase full of body Jesus Christ Christ, George. Put it down. Put it down, have some fucking, that counts more than anything now. Yeah, and what a, that's a person, man. I mean, I get it, at the moment you didn't meet him, at the moment it's just chopped up body parts. But holy fuck, how could you?

How, yes, and it'd be like, well the news does that. Yeah, because we've told the news to do that. Because that's the shit we wanna shit. We want to say them to document. Here's some guys be a scumbag You're just a dirt bag get back to the sidewalk cafe where you were having tacos and share those on your Instagram My favorite thing is every time it's somebody's like viral for something and there's some regular person is viral It's like four days before we hear about all the horrible shit they've done. How many times have been arrested for beating the shit out of their mother and their girlfriend and how child abuse and... That guy with the ocean spray on the skateboard.

Stop worshiping people. Stop worshiping people that you saw in a video for 10 seconds. Okay? Stop it. And while you're at it, stop worshiping Martha the fucking Stewart. I have had it with this shit. I've had it She's an old criminal cunt. That's who she is. What is it? What's going on? I'm so tired of it, dude She never goes away. No, she wrote a fucking book and now everyone's oh she wrote a book where she says she fucked around on

Her husband for 40 years and he never found out and isn't that quaint. No, it's not lying cunt You're a scamming bitch! People lost money because you wanted more money from your stock shit! You deserved to go to fucking prison! You got way less time than anyone else would have got if they did the same fucking thing! Holy shit! Let's all kiss her fucking old wrinkled fucking 81 year old ass! She goes out and be like, isn't she sexy? No! She's not's not Not sexy 90 year old housewives aren't fucking sexy. Sorry. I'm not into it my bad She was fucking or is he dead? I think the husband's dead by now

Yeah, so she wrote a book to say he never even knew and it wasn't even that hard to cover up. Oh Guy say that to me. I'll go what a scumbag. She goes and they go all that she's just such a fuck See, she's like an onion, that Martha Stewart. You just never know what you're gonna get. One minute she's a criminal, next minute she's a liar, next minute she's, yeah. Piece of shit. Cock thirsty inside traitor is what Martha Stewart is?

Yes, in other words, hero to all. Asshole. Yeah. Stop saying she's sexy. Wow. No, tired of hearing that too. Nobody over 80 is sexy. Nobody. Male, female, nobody. You're lucky to be alive, eh? You shouldn't even want to be sexy. Yeah, the average age of a man- You're on house money, motherfucker.

Yeah, the average life expectancy is like 73 for men, 77 for women. If you make it to 80 fucking be happy Don't say also say my ass is still good the fuck out of here Say my heart is still pumping, and I'll be so impressed by that Don't need my ass to be good. I Want my doctor to say you're still getting a lot of oxygen when you breathe in. That's it The only thing you should be worried about your ass is that it's still dropping shit every day. And only when you want it to. That would be the only thing you should be concerned about. It operates when I cognitively make it.

That's what 81 year olds should brag about. I can shit on command. Not when it ever wants to. I'm not incontinent. That's the shit that you brag about being an 80 year old. My ass doesn't ruin dinner parties. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I saw a video with her and Snoop on it. This is totally off the fucking reservation here, but I saw a video with her and Snoop on it where she was talking about when she got arrested and went to jail deservedly for white collar scum crime and fucking... For shit shit things.

Insider trading. She's a piece of shit. Such bad things. I'll rob all the regular people who've invested in this because they trust my face and I'll use that trust to steal money from them essentially. That's real nice lady. Worse off, it's like not just steal from them, but it's like really not wealthy people that counted on her to help.

Yeah, housewives, old people who watch her make fucking centerpieces on television because that's her talent. That's her only talent. While they buy her Mass produced Christmas ornaments at fucking Walmart. Yeah here look I can glue dried flowers to this poor shit now It's now I what the fuck Also, don't don't sell this for three days. I'm selling it right now. Yeah, I kind of sell it right this minute But her and snoop were on there and snoops like and that's what I had to step in man

Cuz you know that's that's what I had to step in man cuz you know That's that's blah blah blah It's like that bitch would have fucking rolled her windows up and locked her fucking doors if she walked by her before that Do you realize that? Yeah, roll them up block them down fucking cross to the other side of the street She wouldn't have given you the time of fucking day if she were famous She would have gripped her bear spray very tightly. Hey Stoop, how many people you think look like you she's ever hung out with before?

Right. Who aren't you? Probably a lot when she was locked up for being a criminal. She was in white collar prison so probably not that either. Yeah. Hung out with a bunch of other fucking uppity white twats who had too much money and still needed more. A bunch of other women that are surgically enhanced that cheated on a man for 40 years. Jesus Christ. So, sorry. Phyllis Newman and the lady from Full House. Yes, Lori Loughlin.

The three sitting together. Jesus Christ. Braiding each other's hair and trading their fucking jello cups. I get people be pissy. I don't care. Fuck her. Fuck Martha Stewart. Honestly. What are we talking about? Fuck her and her old wrinkly, not nice 80 fucking 3 year old ass. If you did, her hip would crack though. Why she's got osteoporosis no she's not sexy fucking Dolly Parton isn't sexy they're not sexy anymore never not that Martha Stewart was never sexy for five seconds in her whole life Dolly Parton used to be sexy now she's a hundred guess Guess what?

She's had more surgery than anybody's face is terrifying right now It's it's not good. No, and I feel terrible because I love Dolly Parton. We all love Dolly Parton, but an amazing woman Yeah, she's never fucking heard anybody. Just be old. That's I feel bad that she feels she has to do that You know what I mean? Yeah, that allowed to be old. Just be old You don't have to have a great ass when you're 85 fucking years old Especially if you made yourself 50 million dollars, what the fuck do you care what you look like? Also Martha, how did Martha Stewart? Famous she's got nothing that's what I mean. She's so boring dollies got talent That's why we love her because she's got talent and she's done things that are impressive and written great songs and all

As Martha Stewart literally glued fried or fucking dried flowers to shit and said you can put that on your table for thanks It's the most boring the most boring way ever We're like isn't she hot when she's 81 look at her with that. She did a photo shoot She was in like a fucking bathing suit and people like I don't care Martha Stewart smoking. What are you smoking? What the fuck are you smoking to think she's smoking? Tell you what, she's got a daughter that's half of her genes. That's 30 years younger. She's not even smoking.

No, it's like the smoke you see is coming off your crack pipe, sir. That's it. She's not still on smoking. You are. I think we beat on an 80 year old lady enough right? Kicked her right in her bad ass. Right in her old fucking vaginal meshed twat. Take that. And it's fine to have a floppy ass when you're 80.

I hope I live to be 80 and have a floppy ass that goes down to the back of my knees. I pray for it. I've got one and I'm 43, but nobody's saying I'm sexy. Not for that. So anyway, pass her by, witness the arsonist lighting it, and then the house fire was reported a short time later here. A friend speaks out in support of accused arsonist as the title to the next article here from a couple days later a good friend

A former nhl tough guy steven peat is sticking out or speaking out not sticking out on be sticking it out He's sticking his dick out and you know He's sticking uh speaking out on behalf of his longtime buddy who's charged with torching the peat family home in brookswood last weekend How do you if he did set the house on fire? There's not a lot to defend there He said Stephen just really wanted to say that there are allegations and there are truths Okay, what is it? Okay? Stephen and his dad are tight and his brother is supporting him, too He said Pete a Petey has a heart of gold Petey

Yeah, and he said he'd some Petey Petey He said he'd support Pete in whatever path he needs to go, you know now Pete has been in jail since his arrest But then he posted bond and he got out here The fire broke out at the at the house just before 11 p.m. Police were called Because a guy somebody called and said, there's a guy trying to set a house on fire here. Officers learned that a domestic dispute between father and son in the home

had taken place earlier that day, but was renewed later that evening. So apparently, they fought earlier in the day, it fucking blew over, and then it fired back up again here. So the father went to bed, and the basement tenant wasn't home. There's someone else in the basement that lives there. They weren't home luckily. And they said they were at one point they said they were searching for Pete, put out a brief description

of him after the fire and then he turned himself in. So that's how that works. He is going to plead guilty to this crime as a matter of fact. Yeah. Yes, he's guilty. He's admitted causing a fire at the house. He's 35 at this point. Originally charged with arson related to an inhabited property, which he pleaded not guilty, and arson damaging property here. His dad's name is Walter. He was in bed when it started and the firefighters extinguished the blaze, but the house and the vehicles in the driveway were severely damaged as well.

Oh, so he got a flame going. Oh, he burned the motherfucker. He burned his house up. So they said investigators learned there was a domestic dispute and that's how this all started. They said a pre-sentence report ordered for Pete and then sentencing is scheduled later on. The maximum sentence for arson by negligence is five years in prison. That's what he's going to plead guilty to. Okay. Okay. Um, somehow here he is going to end up being, uh, being sentenced to use, sir, may fuck

off one year of probation. They won't really, I guess it's because of the plea. It's the plea and I'm sure if his father said, please go easy on him and he's the victim, I'm sure that has some weight to it probably. He's fucked up, he played hockey. Up there they might appreciate a good head injury up there. They all play hockey.

They also might appreciate a good apology because they're so kind. They're kind people. Well, you know what what let's give them Let's give them a pass on this one. You know pass yeah, you know I figure He knows better now right yeah, shit the guys he's good. He's a good guy. You know he punches real good Let's just let him So late 2015 he spends time in a rehabilitation center on Vancouver Island as well. Yeah

June 1st 2016 he is a fucking mess at this point this guy He's in the Rudy Pochek kind of Universe if you remember that episode, it's a from a few years ago. He was a Rangers hockey player who His head was so fucked up at the end of his career That he didn't know where he was in his own neighborhood. He would drive away and then just have to pull over because he doesn't know where he was or where he was going

or even remember how to drive a car. Like he was just- That's unreal, man. It's really fucking, really, really, really hard here. Panic that must set in when that happens is nuts, right? It's gotta be. I would think that's gotta be a horrible feeling, and I guess anger would come from that.

You don't understand, and that would make you frustrated and irritated. So they're saying at this point, they say he's building, him and his dad are rebuilding their house, basically. Oh, yeah, once they're done down. They're building a house. They said it was here in the back of the garage

Steven said where he left the blowtorch unattended He said it was up there in the bedroom above where he was startled awake and escaped down the stairs Within minutes the two-story house on a suburban quarter bought years ago with the money Steven made in the NHL was engulfed in flames and lit up the black sky and pulled neighbors from their homes Was engulfed in flames and lit up the black sky and pulled neighbors from their homes With a blowtorch with a blowtorch Get a flame started I guess He said part of me was like I want to sit and I want to sit and burn with this house He said it's a part of him wanted to die in the house

He said because I knew the consequences of doing something like that and embarrassing myself like that. It wasn't my first tragedy in life. You know, he said, hold on from this interview, by the way, he gives this line and then he says, hold on a minute, I got to go do something. His head hurts. So he wanted some Tylenol and a Coke from his truck. So he needs some Tylenol. The dad said, that's how he is. He can't focus. He'll be cooking something. We'll answer the phone and walk away. I'm like, Stephen, you left the stove on. Oh my God. He can't multitask anymore because his brain is mush at this point. It's not good. He said a couple of days earlier, Stephen missed a turn and got lost on his way to the recreation center where he goes every day.

Yeah, see what I mean? That's that is what it's like to have fucking brain damage. And there's still people that will talk about it on the Patreon episode. But Steve Austin still says, I don't believe in CT. What the fuck is this then? Stupid. You can't be. Yeah. You can't be. Don't believe it. There's not idea. I don't believe in gravity. know what I mean well my I'm on the ground so guess what it's happening I'm on the ground and this guy shits his pants when

the phone rings so guess what we're all doesn't really matter what we believe it's what's exists in reality guy wash while sitting on the toilet pulls his pants up mid-push because he heard the phone ring. He doesn't realize he's still. Oh, I mean, shit coming out of my head. That's a problem. Yeah. Takes shit to the phone. Somehow CTEs become a weird political issue. And I can't stand that because it's not a political issue. It's a medical issue. Stop making everything. Not everything's fucking political. You can if you make it that way though. It is if you make it.

You can say anything as if you make it that way though. It is if you make Anything as if you make it that way So a week it's a couple days earlier Steven missed that turn a week before Walter heard muffled cries for help and found Steven pinned underneath his pickup truck. He was fixing something but hadn't set the jack properly Why he was pinned under his truck and he didn't jack uh-huh didn't do it properly So Walter who's the head saw filer at the sawmill in the suburbs of Vancouver Wow says he wets a dangerous job. He says saw filer. He must be the guy like sharpening saws Chain saws or like wow I don't know So I said a saw mill, so I don't know what kind of saw they're using might be a giant

Huge bandsaw or so and saw yes, that's what I saw was like a huge giant bandsaw chops tree trunks fuck man Said he worries though that Steve said he barely recognizes his son anymore as a person like what he thinks he was doing and he's just not the same guy And he said he worries that Stephen will be Another one of these in NHL enforcers who's dead before they're 50 Bob. We did a Bob Probert episode We did a Rudy Pochek episode. There's a bunch of them here Derrick went down a pretty kick-ass way though dying on a boat is fucking rock. No, he didn't use

Coke in his underwear and all that shit. He had more fun with it. This guy's not having a lot of fun. No. This is bad. No. Bob was just acting like a wild teenager. Derek Bougard, Rick Rippon, Wade Bellic, Steven Montador, and Todd Hewitt are all NHL

enforcers that died early. Wow. NHL enforcers have the post-career life of a wrestler, essentially. Yeah. Like an 80s wrestler. Ultimate warrior life. Yeah. So the Pete's cannot be sure, but they presume that Steven's problems are rooted in concussions. I would say if his head doesn't work and he's been punched in it a lot.

They said that maybe someday, like the several dead enforcers and the roughly 100 NFL players who've been diagnosed with hopefully, that they'll be able to find it with CTE, at least they'll know what the hell happened here, that no one happened. But you can't accurately diagnose that till after death is the problem. Right, yeah, because you've got to saw that brain open. You've got to saw it open and fucking cross do it there and see how many rings are in there and count them.

Yeah. It's a whole thing. So. There's no coming back from that, from that test. No, it's over with after that So Pete and his father here worried that he has it and there's they don't know what to do about it He's got all the symptoms memory loss depression impulsiveness addiction headaches the whole thing, you know all that Walter here said overseeing the rebuilding of a house his son set on fire He said he views himself as the last line of defense in his son's future because he said I got to basically protect him Because he's not he can't be trusted to be on his own. Yeah, you can't do it himself

He said he recently reached out to Derek boo guards father Len who spent time since his son's death in 2011 investigating his final years Bougarde who was under the contract with the Rangers was found dead of an accidental overdose of oxycodone and alcohol and Walter said What I'm going through is what he did before his son passed away So apparently he had all these problems while he was still playing Yeah, which is a thing and was, Aaron Hernandez had that thing too, if you watch, if you watch the special, in between gayness there's a lot of

head injuries. In between the gay sex there's a bit of head injuries happening. And when they have their episodes it's like, it's so frightening and it's so sad. It's sad. I don't know They don't know they're doing it. Have you ever been around anyone with Alzheimer's? It's the same thing. It's ugly man It's the same thing if they there's something obvious and you tell them and they're looking at it like trying to process it and can't and don't Understand it and then you see them get scared and then they're embarrassed and they want to try to cover the fact that they don't Know right. It's really sad to watch them go through it them get scared and then they're embarrassed and they want to try to cover the fact that they don't know. Right.

It's really sad to watch them go through it. That human reaction of trying to make things all better when you know something's wrong. Yeah. It's so... That social thing. That's scarier than the disease. Yeah. Yeah.

Since you're a child that you don't want to be embarrassed. So you're immediately going to be like, oh yeah, you're going to that you're gonna you don't want to be embarrassed so you're immediately gonna be like oh, yeah You're gonna try to get out of it so and then when they when there's no way to get out of it the like acceptance that this is a fucked up situation of Everybody in the room that just witnessed it. Yes, dude. It's humiliating. It sucks so much Especially for someone who had their shit together and felt like yeah, you know That's the matriarch of my goddamn family and watching our decline.

It hurts so much. It's brutal. It's the worst fucking thing in the world. So it's terrible. Now he spent most of the year since his last time in the NHL from 2005 and six, unable to hold a steady job and fighting off legal trouble. Now we couldn't find these are all he had a bunch of little things. I'm going to go through some of his crimes he's committed in the last few years, but

we couldn't find any documentation as far as like a newspaper article that gave details of the arrests or anything. But a couple of times, he had some bar and street fights since then. There's currently accusations of theft against him, possession of stolen property and resisting or obstructing a peace officer. Pete says his only involvement in the latest episode was as a driver who unwittingly gave someone else a getaway ride. Okay, how much brain damage do you have to have? To give somebody your your car to give them a girl? He was driving. I think I get away ride Mm-hmm

That's crazy the headaches He said began about a year or two after his playing career ended They often begin shortly after he wakes up in the morning and sometimes force him to stay in dark quiet rooms Occasionally for days on end. Yeah, the lights too bright fuck Doctors and CT scans have been unable to diagnose the problem. He said I can't sleep on my right side. If I do it feels like someone who weighs 200 pounds is standing on my face right here. Really? His shit is fucked up. He put his hand on his left cheek and temple. He said, they

said does he think the headaches are related to concussions or the fighting he did in hockey? He said I don't't know the reason I assume is blows to the head I guess the answer to that question is yes. Yep Yes, you're saying that yes Then he turned his shoulder forward in a boxing stance his left fist in front of his chin and his right fist cocked behind his ear It was the position he took for dozens of on ice fights They said am I i'm a a right handed fighter, right? He said, all the blows were to the left side of my head,

that's where all my pain is. Yeah. Cause he is, that's, they grab him and. Right. Yeah, he's getting drilled in the left side of the head by somebody's solid right. And he's hitting at the same pace that he's getting hit. It's, you can't defend that.

He said, that's where all my pain is, so that's my uneducated guess. Well, yeah, if you get pummeled in the head in one particular spot, that's where it hurts. It hurts? Strange. What other blows have I taken, he said. Like, that's it right there.

Could've been anything. Oh, could've been anything, really. Maybe you're just allergic to avocados. Have you tried, have you tried, you know, gluten can really give you a lot of problems if you're allergic to it. Have you tried cutting kiwi out of your diet? Oh, you never know. Try shellfish.

That's a lot of problems for people. You never know. Maybe tree nuts. It's possible. I said over a lunch and a couple of beers. Pete did not look and sound like someone to fear. His cheerful voice is an octave higher than expected and his sentences run without punctuation. He made jokes and smiled. He was in a good stretch. With a bit of paunch on his six foot three, 220 pound frame, he wore jeans, a white t-shirt, white Nikes and

a black Los Angeles Dodgers hat with a flat brim. So he's a douchebag. Okay. A black one. Yeah, all black cap. I've seen a lot of those. A few days of stubble almost overgrew a soul patch under his lip like weeds overtaking a garden. Over two days at several restaurants, he was regularly surrounded by televisions showing hockey. It is Canada after all and it was the NHL playoffs. Yet Pete never paid attention. Yeah, didn't give a fuck. So they said the number of NHL fights has dropped in half since Pete's last season to 344 fights this past regular season according to hockeyfights.com.

They said hockey has been the greatest thing in my life but it's also been the worst thing in my life. He said Stephen he said it was great while I was playing but what has it done lately. He said my peers of enforcers have become statistics and the NHL is in denial. And they all did every league denied it denied it denied it like crazy. He said there's no liable. Well you're you're just holding off having to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for as long as it takes so you're not gonna just do the right thing. Do the right thing. This is fucking America. We don't do the right thing. We only do the right thing when it's told to forced on us by a judge under threat of prison. That's the only time we do the right

thing. Well this is also mostly Canada. The longer you it off, the more you're in arrears too. Like what the fuck man? Just take responsibility and fix it. It's ridiculous. He said this quote, they're denying that the job I did even existed, even though I sacrificed my quality of life, my well-being and my future greatly by being there for teammates in the present. They tried to say like, we never really had an enforcer thing that happened.

Job. Meanwhile, it's everybody. Well, we need an enforcer now. That's GM. Played winger. He didn't play him for he wasn't. That's not a position. He said, I don't think the coaches or anyone was thinking of me

10 years down the road when they were pushing me out there to fight. You know what I mean? No. He said, remember, though, they actively, when Rudy Pochuk was asking them, what's wrong with my head, they were like, no, no, no, that's not from getting hit in the head. Can't be.

He said, you can get hit in the head as much as you want, that's not what hurts your head. Go out there and bang your head around, don't worry about it. Fuck. So he said he was prescribed Percocet routinely by team doctors in the NHL, and spent years after he left the game self-medicating with painkillers he got from doctors or shitty blood off the street.

He said he admitted cocaine use too and he still drinks. He says he believes that his primary problem is not addiction but pain that makes him take shit. So he said that he's contacted the NHL's player association to look in to try to get them to have some balls here. He said, you start to feel like everyone I touch is dying. My mom died. The guys I played hockey with are dying.

And then I start looking in the mirror being like, what did I do last night? Is something wrong with me? Are my headaches leading to something worse? Am I getting better? Am I getting worse? So that call led Pete into rehabilitation through the league substance abuse and behavioral health program overseen jointly by the NHL and the players union. The NHL's players

emergency assistance fund, met as temporary relief for struggling former players, provided a few months of payments. He doesn't have a pension? There's no pension here. Wow. He returned to rehabilitation in 2015 after he was charged with arson. And he said of his reaction last year, he said, Why are you sending me to rehab again? I was just trying to find an answer to my pain. Right. And and what he's doing is self medicating, which is trying to manage the pain. So then they're going to send him to rehab to stop all the things he's doing to mitigate being in pain. Yeah, he's still in pain. He then they're gonna send him to rehab to stop all the things he's doing to mitigate being

in pain every fucking. Yeah, he's still in pain. He's gonna wake up and not be addicted anymore and he's just gonna re-addict because he's fucking in pain. That's it. Relapse is coming. It's coming. They said they need to, his father said

they need to figure out the root cause of his pain, not just try to get him off the pills. Yeah, don't get him off the pills because that's keeping him from being in pain. Yeah, and Steven said him off the pills because that's keeping him from being in pain. Yeah, and Stephen said that he viewed prescription pills as a last resort. He said, I know I can go grab five Percocets and sit around all day. That's just lazy.

I know there are better ways. And he says he finds temporary relief in saunas and hot tubs, massages and acupuncture, but he struggles to be able to afford to do any of that shit. Right. He studied... High-end shit. Yeah, fucking constant acupuncture, that's got to be costly. He said he studied natural remedies and diets, and when he feels the headache surging, he

reaches for a Coke. He says sugar helps it too. He said he keeps an O. Henry candy bars in the refrigerator as well. And he said, I actually hate to admit, but have had to take the pills again. He wrote in a follow-up to the in-person interview saying his headaches have been awful since around the time of the interviews. He said just extra strength Tylenol and Advil 400s, but it still scares me because that's how it starts again.

Yeah. Yeah, it'll go, well, this isn't working. What if I take something a little stronger? Hundreds. He said that while some former enforcers have died recently and took their own lives, he said he would not, at least intentionally, ever take his own life.

Okay, so he's not suicidal. No, he said, I don't think I'm the kind of person who could pull that trigger, but I'm the type of person who could drive a car 200 miles an hour lose control and end it that way Not on purpose, right? But you're also probably the guy that'll take eight percocet and drink a case of booze and lay down and accidentally drop dead, right? Yeah, like the other guy we talked about bugon. He said I get reckless with my life I think that points to the fact that I fought for my teammates and I was reckless with my

own body. I had to self sacrifice for teammates, right? And he says that he likes to drive his GMC pickup everywhere. He has a lot of anxiety. He doesn't like to share rides because he wants the freedom to leave at any time. He doesn't like to be stuck places. He's waiting for his father to meet him at a restaurant. He called him several times within an hour to check on his progress, even though the

meeting time had not passed. His head's all messed up. Hey buddy, where are you? He asked, calling his father either Buddy or Wally. He said he admitted to sometimes waking up in tears. He often thinks that nearby parked cars are occupied by people watching him. Oh, Jesus. His head's a fucking mess.

He said, I've been studying concussions and some of the symptoms are things like anxiety and recklessness. Yeah, frontal lobe fucking damage. He said, I'm like, wait, I have all these symptoms. I wonder if I could get rid of the headaches if those other things will go away too. Probably not.

So they talk about the fire here and they talk about all of this type of shit. They said somehow the burning down of the family house has brought the father and son closer together. Interesting. They said when it happened Walter was upstairs in bed after 10 p.m. Steven was in the garage, which was usually packed with furniture and boxes because they'd been cleared a downstairs spare bedroom to rent. Stephen said that he had pulled stereo equipment from his truck parked on the street to fix the workbench.

He was unable to find a soldering gun, so he used a blow torch. He said that he set it down as he walked back outside, unaware that it was still lit. But then how did someone see him try to set a house on fire? Does that make sense? He said it burned a hole in a nearby mattress and when he tried to pad it out with a blanket flames erupted. The flames quickly filled the garage and engulfed the house. So that's their story and they're

sticking to it. They said Walter and Stephen have contradicting memories of what happened next Walter recalled waking up to an explosion Maybe the gas tank of an ATV destroyed in the garage and seeing a glow out of the window Stephen said that he ran upstairs and alerted his father of the fire I'm gonna go ahead and believe the dad because I don't think Stephen knows how to get to his you know the recreation center here Walter remembers finding the family dog, Dawson, under the bed carrying him downstairs, but he said he never saw Stephen. Stephen said that the two walked in the driveway with Walter screaming at him, what did you do now Stephen?

So that's what he remembers and I don't know. Both dismissed news reports that said they were heard by neighbors arguing Arguing earlier in the day that Pete said that Stephen was out of town all day and arrived home that night after Walter was in bed Stephen disputed the account of a witness who said he saw Stephen intentionally setting the fire Walter said he sided with his son Stephen left the fucking scene on foot He didn't stand there and wait for the cops for the fire department to come though He stopped to direct a fire engine unsuccessfully navigating the knot of suburban streets He said he went to a friend's house that he turned himself in a couple days later and was charged

Walter and Stephen were placed under a no-contact order and didn't weren't allowed to communicate for weeks And then Stephen went off to rehab the the house was fucked it was gone the tenant who was not home at the time lost all of his belongings including his truck that was in the driveway and later sued Stephen Pete in court and was awarded seventeen thousand four hundred fifty five Canadian dollars but Pete said he doesn't have the money to pay no I don't have that money so you can sue me all you want do news that a former NHL player set fire to his father's house spread quickly and in February to avoid the publicity of a trial that's why he said he pleaded guilty and just didn't

want more bad yeah all the attention yeah they said he's bounced between homes of friends and family, waiting for the house to be rebuilt. Stephen would like to work at a Harley Davidson store, where he can put his knowledge of motorcycles to good use. Right now he's landscaping, they said. Oh my God, the man used to play the NHL. Resorted to a 10 year old boy's career. That's, yeah, he's gonna go around with a mower.

Hey, hey mister, can I cut your lawn? So it's hard to rebuild relationships when you're widely known as the NHL guy who burned down his father's house, he said. He said his best friend, it seems, is his dog Dawson. Walter said Dawson's the one thing that actually pulls him out of it because he demands that you walk him. He's a little angel that guy. And Stephen said he calms me when my heart's really going.

Which dogs are a calming dude. When I'm on one, like my dog Frankie the doggo, she knows it and she starts whining and comes over and fucking plants her chest and her head in my sternum and hugs me and does all this weird shit. She's an empathy dog. You've seen her, she's done that with you too when you've had a hard time. She climbs up on top of you like, no, no, I got this. She doesn't let you be pissed off. No, there's no reason to cry.

Come here. Let me lick your face. There you go. Look at that. Lick your nose. Now you feel better, right? Right? Walter Pete is frustrated. He said here, he said he's frustrated that those close to Steven have dismissed him as a troublemaker. He's not a troublemaker. He said he's mostly

frustrated at the NHL and hockey at large for what he said. Basically the league put his son in a discard pile. That's it it when his head was too fucked up to do anything anymore they just throw him away trashed him they said they are closely tracking the class-action lawsuit against the NHL brought by players saying the league concealed information about the dangers of concussions he said right now it seems like a losing battle but I will spend the rest of my night of my life standing up for my son as I believe he's a very good young man who needs help and Walter said very sad that he has to resort to painkillers alcohol Whatever means he could find to deal with his pain more than anything. He misses that twinkle in the smile

He said that his son had and he said he looks fine, but who can say what's going on in a brain damaged head? We've tried to answer that question many times on this show. It's not easy. It's real difficult to answer. So Steven I mean at this point he could wander away could go anywhere not know where he is for a minute I mean anything could happen here. Sure. I mean one day he's on his lunch break and He is hungry smell something good. Oh boy. He opens up a door and it's the shwarma man. Oh my goodness, he's standing there, he's carving his shit off and he says,

how is it you've come to arrive here? Why are you here? You don't know? Well why you come here then? You don't know where you are? We sell, it's food. We have... You want... I make for you. It's a shwarma you can... Hey, which... no, you don't set fire.

No, just because you're confused you can't set fire. No! No, you can't. No. Sigh... no, I'm sorry. Yes, you go. You don't... You come... you don't know whether you come or go. Okay, I don't know what's going on with this. Anybody, this fucking guy... Signs say close. That's it. Sign say close

Get out you get out of my no make for you. You go get out get out and then poof in a cloud of shawarma and sauces It's gone and Stevens even more confused than he was to begin with. Yeah Didn't even know why he was in there where? Where where where am I? So November 21st 2017 to talk with Walter via the New York Times here and a sports reporter for the New York Times said he'd been in sporadic contact via text messaging and email with Walter Pete since writing to him about Steven. At the time of the 2016 article, Stephen was 36 and experiencing debilitating

headaches and violent mood swings and all that stuff. So they said Walter Pete was you know trying to he said that he gave the Times permission to publish the text and emails he had sent John over the previous 18 months John's the reporter some have been trimmed for concession Stephen disputes his father's accounts and says I am disappointed in my father since I am once again Since I once held him so high on a pedestal Okay Here we go June 7th 2016 these are all this is Walter here again. We thank you for doing our story, which hasn't ended yet

I hope Stephen can get some help going forward. We had a great day yesterday. Just the two of us went boating for the day. Beautiful day making memories together." That Stephen won't remember. I added that myself. So then December 30th, the reporter is copied on an email to a doctor with the NHL Players Association here where they say, you know, we are desperate for help as we have run out of resources and energy to cope with this. The NHL has offered zero help. I'm sorry we haven't contacted you sooner, but Steven is stubborn and proud. It has all, it has gone past that and I hope someone will help. He's suffering badly from memory loss, depression, extreme headaches, and at times suicide thoughts. Along with this, tough when he gets frustrated and anger comes out, he's

gotten violent a couple times and at times I'm afraid for my life. I love my son very much and you have no idea how much this hurts to see him like this. This is what's really happening. The article is a nice fluff piece of he's fine, he's just got a headache, but in but in reality the day to day is worse than that. It's not going well. June 2017 from Walter. Just an update on Stephen. Not sure if the NHL might want to know but Stephen is in lockup. Been arrested two times in the last week for parole violations. May spend the next six months in jail. He's in real bad shape and like I said before I don't have the resources or the knowledge to deal with this.

I saw him yesterday, looks horrible, he is homeless. Oh no. Not good. I know one can lead a horse to water theory, but I'm afraid this could be very close to his end. At times he has no idea who he is or where he is. Wow. Steven needs special medical attention badly and I also believe he has gone back to self-medicating. Not sure, but you can't imagine what bad shape he's in.

I fear he may not make it out of lockup, but there's nothing I can do or don't know what to do. The system is flawed. He's in lockup now, most likely won't get released now. Only violation is not seeing his parole officer, but he forgets. He's a complete mess right now. Probably the safest place for him, but he won't get fixed in a cement cell. June 2017.

I will be honest. My health has suffered through this and I'm at a financial crisis as Stephen has gone through $120,000 since getting out of rehab. And he's demanding more every day to a point if I continue this I'll be on the street. Oof. Stevens can't comprehend my financial stress that he's put on me. I went to meet him at Clover Towing the other day. Stephen looked in real bad shape as he didn't even know I was there.

Holy shit. I had to leave and stop in a parking lot next door and just broke down. The police were called by the towing company and they took him to jail. He's a fucking mess, man. He's- How old is he?

36, some shit like that. God damn. 37. They said he should be in a hospital, not jail. We can talk more about this. I will say I have had a no contact order as I fear for my safety now if he is in a state where he does where he doesn't know who I am it scares me a week

later June 14th John sorry for not getting back to you it's been a real shit show with Steve in the last few days I've been overwhelmed with just trying to deal with him I will try to contact you when it settles down here. Thanks for your concern and interest." So November of 2017, Walter sends the reporter an email that he sent Stephen to a probation officer in June asking for a no contact order against his son. He said, I think it's best that we do not have any contact at all. And if he needs to contact me, maybe a mediator or through you if possible hey I'm just a writer for the Times here I'm not getting involved in this shit you need a doctor for that shit he said I need to step away and allow my son to hit his bottom on his

own yikes oh my god and he's got to feel a level of guilt because he encouraged him you know I mean 14 to do this professionally and he said he felt bad about it later that he had thought was to do this professionally. And he said he felt bad about it later, that was the thing. He said later on, he fucking said, shit, he was a straight A student, you know? He said, I do not want any contact at all from this day forward, in all caps. So Walter sends John his response to a query from Stephen's probation officer. So this is the probation officer sent Walter something. Walter cc'd John on the respond response here

I'm not sure what there is to discuss. It seems like no one wants to help just rubber stamp things until my son dies He's had no help from the NHL and what for what I can assume no help from the government or law authorities It is well documented that my son suffers from concussion issues and is treated like a common criminal Yes, he's breaking the law, but what is the root cause? His doctors say he is doing drugs. Maybe he is, but why, again, the root cause? It is very well documented that many of these players, or people who suffer from concussion syndrome, reach out for a solution,

but end with drugs off the street to solve their problems. He was a young man who had thousands of fans cheering for him every time he dropped the gloves fighting for the Langley Thunder junior team, Calgary Hitmen, Red Deer Rebels, Tri City Americans. Stephen played for the Washington Capitals for four years. One time he had 13 fights and 12 games. Bare-knuckle fights with big guys, some who are already dead now due to concussion related injuries Yeah, they just sent them out to everybody cheered the NHL went. Oh, we don't do that anymore. We never had him. That's all crazy

Wow yet here we are trying to put Steven in jail because no one has any idea what to do with him Yes, my brothers and I have asked for a no contact order as we are concerned about our safety But at the time but at the same time we love him and fear every phone call we get it is someone to tell us he's died. I'll tell you this that John Branch wants to do a fellow a follow-up story sorry misspelled follow-up story New York Times and this story will have an ending. Sad. How do we write that ending is up to all of us.

I've tried my best and much like Stephen, have had the door closed in my face. I'm 66 years old, sold my house to help, the second one, the last one burned down, running out of funds and really my health has gone south because of this. I've avoided talking to John Branch as it is very difficult talking about a lost cause. Many nights I cry myself to sleep trying to figure out a new plan, but no matter what I do I wake up to an endless problem. His life is at stake, he used to be the most polite young man, straight A's in school and now he can't remember why he gets up in the morning.

Sincerely, Walter Pete. Hoof, ok, November 13th, 2017. Yeah, he says, Hi John, thanks for replying. Not sure, but the fact that Steven is deteriorating fast living on the street has pretty much zero help from the NHL and my relationship with him has gone south, with his condition needs professional help and I would suggest his mind has gone off the rails. I made arrangements for him to stay at my brother's and both brothers are pretty much handicapped but ended up being removed by the police for threats etc. His mind leaves him lost at times. He can't even

just stay with his uncles man. Confused, aggressive and I will be honest he scares the shit out of me and for that matter my brothers it saddens me to seem helpless as Stephen has accused me of interfering as an affairs. I have no idea how to tell this horror story, but I am sure there are many living this nightmare. I'm thinking that this may all come out one day, but my biggest fear is my son will not be with us as he even talks about suicide at times. Every time I get an email or an unknown number calling me about him, I fear the worst news. The legal system, a medical system here only wants to paint him as a criminal or a drug addict.

I would suggest both may be the case, but as his situation has forced him to do whatever it takes to relieve the pain, anxiety, et cetera, from the headaches. Again, I'm a normal person who loves hockey, but to see what the game has become and the end result of the violence allowed on the headaches. Again, I'm a normal person who loves hockey, but to see what the game has become and the end result of the violence allowed on the ice. The worst is the fact that most sports teams are still in the dark as far as recognizing the health risks associated with many sports. The rule book must be rewritten. Problem is they weren't in the dark. They

were just avoiding it. Right. They knew what the fuck is going on. They don't know what's happening. They knew. He said, right now I'm at a loss of what to do and who to turn to for help. Many nights I lose countless hours of sleep thinking that will happen, what will happen and am I doing the right thing. There's so many people who prefer to put a paper bag over their head and ignore the fact that Stephen and so many other players suffer from these injuries. But the injuries don't just stop there. As emotional, financial, and in some cases physical injuries suffered by family members,

I am living the nightmare of the movie Concussion. I honestly have no idea where to take this other than to keep telling the story and maybe others won't feel so lonely as they are on a deserted island. He is so mad at me that he that it has come to yelling at me making threats etc. as really I was slash and the only person person left in his life trying to help and many just look at him as just another person on the street and bum dumpster diving for food. John I'm open to anything that may bring this into the open so people can see what hockey is breeding and where many of its players end up. It's so sad that Stephen had his own cheering

section in Washington because he did like a little fan club because he's the enforcer, but now many of his fans have no idea or care what he's doing. Sincerely, Walter." So Walter then responds to John's request for permission to publish the messages he sent about Stephen. He said, I would personally not have a problem with that. Fact is, I feel like I am the one who has failed my son and I feel like I have the ability to fix. I feel as if I had I has the ability to fix anything. That's what the message says. Exactly. There is this is something I struggle with every day. I will admit I have tears in my eyes as I respond to this as Steven is texting me right now begging for money

Says he can hardly lift his arms and as he is so weak starving cold But he blames me for all the things that have happened to him Some days I find the whole nightmare like a bad dream wishing I could wake up and it was all over so This is fucking crazy. December of 2017 they talk about he is as dad says he's on the streets in British Columbia and could be close to death. Said he's completely fucked up he's just wandering around the streets. He said his forgetfulness, his

deterioration in his mindset. it slowly changed to the point where right now he's just a very different person. And yeah, he said, my relationship with my son has gone south. I still love him, but I'm sure he loves me. But the point is that I have to look after myself. If you combine his frustration of dealing with the headaches, then throw in self-medicating together. That's his recipe for disaster.

Yeah, this dad is begging for anybody to help take care of his son, because he can't do it anymore. And this is an adult that's aggressive. How about NHL? Fucking help me. The people that caused this, please do me a favor. Yeah, there's not a lot of enforcers. So the ones that were constantly pummeled in the head, fucking help them.

So he said that he got a phone call from an old friend that was alarming, Walter said. He said he told me that he'd heard Stephen was in downtown Langley walking around covered with blood, his hands down around his ankles. I thought, holy shit, someone's either beat him up or he's close to dead and my heart sank. But I do realize that at some point in time, this nightmare is going to end one way or another. Either he's going to get fixed or he's going to die

He said the nhl they just take take take you got a player who is an employee You think they jump up to the forefront and say what do you need? He said he's particularly critical of the major junior western hockey league saying the lack of pay and safety consideration For child players is objectionable. Yeah. They said they get paid three to four hundred dollars a month for cash plus room and board. So yeah, they stay in like a dorm. Yeah.

They make beer money. Yeah. These owners are making money hand over fist. I would suggest it's borderline child slavery. The owners are condoning long term and possibly fatal injuries to their players I can't imagine the head injury starting at a young age would help that either. I'm not a doctor But if you're getting major concussions while your brain is still developing Yeah, that's not good your brains not developed till you're in your 20s your early 20s

So if you're still getting these damages while it's the shits still drying Yeah, I mean Christ Almighty fuck. Yeah that paints wet the pits all wet everything's wet The concrete is not dry yet. If you shake it around. It's not gonna be even you know leave the molds in there Yeah, it's fucking crazy man, so the whl responded to Walters comments with a statement. What do you think they're gonna say? responded to Walters comments with a statement. What do you think they're gonna say? We're trying, I don't know, what do they say? Basically, good luck with that. He say the WHL is always concerned

about the wellbeing of former players. They're just, they're concerned, they're not gonna do anything about it. We love to hear about it, we love to hear about them. Got a Christmas card, we're like, hey, look at him, great. And we sincerely hope Steven gets the help he needs in order to lead a healthy life and move forward.

That's what they said. Oh, boy. We're concerned about him. We hope everything works out. We have no part in it won't help at all. But our sincerity is up to the line of it costing us money. Oh, we will pay a dime. No, I mean, no, no, we were debating whether to put the stamp on here.

We'll put it that way. You're lucky. Yeah, you're lucky this came out. We've mailed shit. Good God. You're lucky we didn't just tweet this to you. The NHL would not respond after multiple requests for comment from the New York Times. Walter Pete said he lies awake wondering whether his son will make it through the next day.

Jesus Christ. He said he gets frustrated, he gets upset, and then he says, I'm going to kill myself. He says, that's what Stephen does. He says you lose sleep over it, you get to thinking about it. And you just think, well, tomorrow's going to be the day, you know, holy shit. December 20 of 2017. Former hockey fighters to to this guy saying you're not alone. Other hockey players read about this and are telling him, hey, you're in the same boat, you're not alone. You're

not alone. Who is this guy? The, Jesus Christ, Purinton? Purinton here, reached out to the CBC and to the Pete family in hopes of connecting with Steven for help here He says that he's doing it for one reason because he's been there This guy says you're kind of playing out your dreams in a way, but you're kind of but you're giving up for what? But what are you giving up for that? Unfortunately, some people are giving up their lives and their health former fighters can relate to the sadness and to the darkness This guy says he's had significant challenges in his own life here. He's faced symptoms common with CTE and he's had depression, drugs and alcohol, even faced a burglary charge in the United States that could have landed him in jail

for 25 years, this guy said. He said it goes beyond hockey too. This Purinton visited Pete at a rehab center in Vancouver when he was staying there in 2015. And that's the area he saw that. Purinton said he can get, he can get, he can help find Steven the funding to go into treatment, but he has to want to go. He's like, I can raise the money for him, but he doesn't want to be there. Yeah. Right.

He said, I support him and I'm here for him and I can't give advice. I just have to be open and go listen to him. I got his back and I just want him to get well. Now, Riley Cote, I wonder if that's related to Patrick Cote, our our guy that we did, who's tried to escape from prison with a helicopter. That guy was hilarious. Was a fearsome fighter for the Flyers between 2006 and 10. Now he's the co-founder of Athletes for Care, an organization that advocates for medical

marijuana use for current and former athletes. I can get behind that. He's also reached out to Stephen and Walter in hopes of helping. This guy says he's not alone and there's a huge group of people who would love to offer him support. There's hope for everyone. He's in a dark place right now and there are people around who are willing to help him get out of this funk James McEwen fought 200 times in his hockey career and was recently featured in a CBC story about

Fighting in junior hockey. He believes there's still plenty of hope for Pete He said my message is that healing is possible and no matter how tough things are right now It's possible to bounce back and come out of this. Actually medically it's not. Your brain doesn't. It's impossible. It doesn't heal at all. It's over.

He can heal and become balanced and strong again. No, you can't. No, you can't. Like the CBC, the former fighters have reached out to Stephen directly via text and email. He sometimes replies, but then goes weeks or days without responding to follow up messages. Oh boy. And that's one of those I can, you know, I mean days without responding to follow-up messages. Oh boy. And that's one of those I can, you know, I mean, Junior Sayow, explain that then.

He was a balanced, regular guy, couldn't get out of it, had to kill himself. One of the sweetest people on the earth from everything I've ever heard. I've never, I think he only was aggressive with his wife when he was upset. He had some kind of something. Yeah, he had something happening.

There was some domestic shit, but I think that was probably from frustration. I think that was after his brain, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the frustration of not being able, not knowing where he was at. Fuck yeah, so December 28th, 2017, they finally get a hold of this guy, Pete, they have an article, and they said,

it's hard to get a hold of him, he'll reply to some of your messages and completely ignore others. He says he will see you at Tim Hortons in 15 minutes but then show up an hour and a half late. Stuff like that. When he finally does show up though, frustration gives way to sympathy. How can it not?

After slurping down an iced coffee and inhaling a chocolate glazed doughnut, the broad-shouldered 37-year-old, once known for his explosive fights On the ice hunches over the table and rests his head in the palms of his thick hands His eyes flit left and right as he recounts his daily struggle to deal with the headaches memory loss and anxiety Obviously symptoms that are connected to his concussions Since spring Pete has been homeless in the Surrey, British Columbia area rotating between motels Airbnb rentals and his and his female companions parents home and the cab of his 2005 GMC pickup truck

Say he's mostly coherent although he slurs his speech at times and is prone to losing his train of thought or speaking in loops People with brain damage speak in loops. They say the same shit over and over because they're comfortable with it. Over a three-hour conversation with the National Post, the Princeton British Columbia native is at his most lucid when reminiscing about hockey glory days, which saw him play for the Washington Capitals. There's no question Pete, whose a name appears in online rankings of the NHL's greatest fights, is still proud of his bare-knuckle brawls. But when the conversation

turns to what's happened since he retired, his shoulders slouch. When the curtain goes down no one sees that fucking part. No one's cheering me on right now, you know? They don't see the struggles. It's the truth. They only want to see the good. So Pete, they talk about his run-ins with the law. He says he insists that he is not a fucking drug addict fall down. I think he means a fall down drug addict is what he's trying to say. His buddy Howie Zarin, who has known Pete or Petey as he likes to call him since he was a teenager, confirmed that much of the picture of Walter Pete has painted is true. He said this is the worst he's ever been.

We've seen Petey and we are gravely concerned. Fuck man. So one of the most recent stories to come to light has been of Matt Johnson. They said TSN reported earlier that Matt Johnson, a former enforcer with the Kings and Minnesota Wild, went in and out of rehab after his hockey career ended in 2004, and he's been estranged from his parents for a decade now and is believed to be living on the streets

in Santa Monica, California. Wow. He said, it's very difficult. You've kind of lost that person, but you can't really grieve because they're still alive. That's what that guy's mother said. Right. Gee, they wish he, they have to wish their son dead because it'd be easier to handle that's so fucking sad, man

Zaren said that Pete was always a bit of a bull on the ice when he was 14 He'd take on players who were much older So they said that Pete's profile climbed when he laced up for 130 games with the Capitals and racked up 234 penalty minutes. In one particular fierce fight with PJ Stock, which we watched, both men threw rapid fire punches alternating between left and right jabs. After the referees separated them, Pete, as he often did, flashed a big grin. The television announcer howled, folks, this is one of the best hockey fights we've seen

in a long time. And in December 2005, Carolina announced they had acquired Pete for his quote toughness. Still, yeah, that's wild. In 2009 with the online forum hockeyfights.com, Pete praised the technical fighting prowess of Donald Brashear, but diss those enforcers who are pretenders and you all know who they are." They said such bravado isn't immediately apparent these days. Pete walked through the doors of Tim Horton's on a recent Thursday night, sporting the same stocky build from his enforcer days, but with a halting step. He seemed unaware that his jeans had slid well below his waist. Oh no. Pants are falling down.

He was accompanied by a female friend who called herself Pete's protector, his mama bear. I also saw a little boy that was hurt, you know, and kind of lost, she said. Yeah, at times during the interview, Pete's eyes rolled to the back of his head as he was about as if he was about to doze off. At one point, he grimaced in pain, causing nearby customers to turn their heads and his leg cramped up. He's a mess. For several minutes he conducted the interview while bent over in his chair. I don't know what it does, but it somehow gets more blood to my head.

Helps me a bit. Gravity. It's pulling the blood up there. But when the conversation turned to his hockey career hockey career was as if he was a different person He was and there was a sparkle in his eye. He said not to toot my own horn I was a pretty tough guy. I knew how to make a presence on the ice and how to make guys scared It's the only place in this world that allows you to go ape shit like that Yeah, they love you for it. They love you for it. Pizza, when they were showing the crowd after those fights, standing ovations, screaming,

cheering, nothing, you could score three straight goals on three straight times down the ice, they wouldn't cheer for you like that. Not like that. So he said that he started noticing problems toward the end of his hockey career. He remembers being sent to the penalty box and not being able to see clearly across the ice and also suffering from sensory overload, sort of like being in a swimming pool with sent to the penalty box and not being able to see clearly across the ice. And also suffering from sensory overload, sort of like being in a swimming pool with a bunch of screaming kids.

He said, deep down I was a little fucking scared. You're out on the ice, people are whizzing by you and you're feeling off. After retirement, he wanted to become a realtor, but he wasn't able to pass the required course, even though he tried to take the test twice Which it's a lot to remember He's held down brief jobs in construction and at a Harley Davidson repair shop But constant headaches make it hard for him to focus. Oh, and it's so loud in those Harley Constantly loud some days I get up and I it's a struggle. I'm paying the price for it He said yeah, this is uh, he talks about the text with his dad and all that kind of thing. So

everybody's so fucking worried about him and Yeah strangers who are compelled to send words of Encouragement like on Facebook He said friends and family have reached out to him and people will say dude if you if you see this There's help available. I'm sure praying for you. Well, that doesn't tell him where to go though I'll pray for you though that I got covered. So in case that works, we're all good. Yeah, we got that shit Pete acknowledged rehabbing or

relapsing after his last rehab stint at the Edgewood treatment center in BC but insists he's been clean since October 2016. He also said his regimen now consists of Cyprolex and Seroquel which are designed to treat anxiety and depression. I mean that's good probably and Advil for his head. Said he's also taking a liking to naturopathic remedies. His female friend said she's tried hard to prevent him from using painkillers and street drugs but sometimes loses track of him and worries he's influenceable. Yeah.

As for those reports of him walking down the street covered in blood, must have been a mistake, he says, noting that he has a white t-shirt with red writing on it and a shoulder tattoo of dripping blood. Okay, okay. But nobody saw your shoulder tattoo. Yeah, that's what I mean. He said there's a logical explanation for every one of these bullshit stories asked where he got the gash on his chin. He says it's for moving furniture. Before he agrees

to have his photo taken, he applied some makeup to cover the wound. Didn't want to have that on his face. He said the allegations he had verbally threatened his family were misconstrued, jokes that were not meant to be taken literally. I'm breaking balls over here. They're taking this shit seriously. However, Zarin, his friend, said Pete has a lot of pent-up anger and is prone to mood swings. He said Pete stood back in court in January to answer charges of uttering threats and breaching terms of his probation. Pete went on to accuse his father of hoarding money from the sale earlier this year of the

home they had rebuilt after the fire, even though he had shared much of his hockey earnings with his father and late mother. He said, I hate going back to my dad, but he's the driving force behind why I'm struggling. The person that was my best friend and my buddy, my father has disappointed me so much. The poor father is just, he doesn't know what to do. He's out of ideas now. He said, Walter said he knows his son is furious with him for going public with the struggles but he said I personally have no idea what to do. He's trying to fix his

life himself and in my opinion it's a recipe for disaster. He declined to talk about the financial support he's given Stephen but he did say that he's given him $120,000. Holy shit they say the NHL and NHLPA have substance abuse and behavioral health program to assist players and their families with the appropriate treatment to address the issues they're experiencing. While Pete was in the washroom, his female friend shared that he's received several thousands of dollars from the league's emergency fund in recent months, but blown it on some silly things such as gadgets for his truck.

Asked if she was concerned whether Pete might harm himself, she replied, not on purpose. Wow. Zarin, the friend, said he worries Pete's still abusing drugs and alcohol and that he could wind up dead if intervention doesn't come soon. He's convinced rehab is not the answer, however, and that the root of his problems lies in his head. Pete, he needs to know that his friends, his real friends, are here to help him. No one's turning their back on him. Pete told the Post he's open to receiving help. He said, I've always been self-reliant. For me to accept help of others is new to me, but I'm learning it. Then, minutes later, he he said quote, I don't trust anyone right now.

So who knows? He's a mess. Then there's an article talking about how he lives in his truck and facing an uncertain future. This is in February of 2018. No fixed address. He couch surfs, sleeps in his car. He's a fucking mess is what it is basically.

Memory loss is getting worse and worse. He hasn't been diagnosed with anything because they need a postmortem autopsy for this. But a study of the Journal of Neurosurgery by Dr. Bennett Amalu, who was, that's Will Smith's character in the movie Concussion, shows that CTE diagnosis in the living may soon be the norm.

Might be able to see it soon. Oh. Which would help. I don't know how you would treat it, but the first step to being able to treat it is to being able to diagnose it, I would think. Then you can work on treating it. First step to fixing a problem is admitting there is one.

Yeah, knowing that it exists. Calling from his truck where he sleeps most nights, the pain in Pete's voice is so visceral and apparently so overwhelming that the conversation often grinds to a halt. He said, I can't even describe the pain right now. My head feels like it's going to fall off, but I'm doing all right. I mean, what can I do?

Hopefully not die. That is not good. He said, the fact that I can't rent a place because I'm a convicted arsonist with no job and a disability and no way of guaranteeing that I've got rental money. So I can't know it will rent me anything other than motels or shit like that. So he now faces counts of breaching probation and one of uttering threats to property. One of the charges relates to cut contacting his father which was forbidden and all of that. Pete's father blamed the NHL, Pete blames who knows.

So Glenn Healy, a former NHL goaltender and current executive director of the NHL Alumni Association said there's programs available for guys like Pete, whether it be substance rehabilitation or financial support. He said it is a matter of a phone call It's a matter of that phone call being answered within minutes If it's a crisis situation help is launched immediately the player has to want it and we will give it But there's no way to help him They put him in rehab say stop taking pills his head still hurts so now what do you fucking do?

Then it hurts worse because he's not doing anything for it or they're not giving him the right things for they're not giving They're not gonna give him anything that works because it it's fucking narcotics and it's addictive That's his problem. So Healy said it's the elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about this stuff It's painful meaning the head injuries are the root cause he said I've got some of my friends and teammates that have been through this. It's tough, but I can tell you the programs are there. I can tell you, I do my job. I'll tell you that much. I'm the only one. Man. So he's got nothing left that he's fucked. So 2019 more, there's a book coming out detailing the downfall of Steven Pete. Jeremy Allen, Allen ham got to watch a slightly older Stephen Pete play

hockey at the local arena when he was a teen and he was impressed by him. So I guess he wrote a book in this book, Major Misconduct. Allingham suggests the fighting caused brain damage, describing a 2002 fight between Stock and Pete that we watched as one of the most violent hockey fights of all time. Where more than a punch a second was thrown landing blow after blow to the face. It was Allingham noted more punishment that pro boxers absorb because it's bare fisted too.

Right. And it's right in your face. Yeah. Now Pete suffers from relentless headaches, emotional outbursts, memory loss, substance abuse issues. Allingham noted that the symptoms are consistent with CTE and the fact that, you know, he's on the street and everything like that. So he said a lot of the time was spent in pursuit of Pete when he was writing this book who would respond to text messages but then took a very long time before agreeing to an interview. He said

finally out of the blue one day Pete agreed to talk by phone. He said in the hour long conversation Allingham said Pete described what his life was like, how he was homeless and estranged from his father and how he spent the holidays alone. Pete said it was the worst Christmas I've ever had. Oh my god. Oh that's fucking horrible and he's the holidays alone. Pete said it was the worst Christmas I've ever had. Oh my god. Oh that's fucking horrible. And he's now living alone sleeping in the cab of a beat up GMC pickup or crashing on the couches of any friend who will have him.

Spends most of his days in local parks trying to find relief from relentless headaches and fog of confusion surrounding him. He said I just want my health back, man. I guess so. He said that when he met Pete, he registered as an intelligent charming funny guy. Telling Pete's story and the stories of other former fighters was an intense and demanding experience. He said, I'm a musician. I completely put that on the side. I didn't play with my band. My social life shot down 90%. He said he's an outspoken critic of fighting in hockey. He said, well, the number of fights

has fallen. It's still too high. He said only about a he said with there's about a one in five chance you'll witness a fight in an NHL game. So there's a fight every fifth game about in the 2018 2019 season that worked out to 226 bare-knuckle fights a lot of them though no blows get landed yeah a lot of the fights are you're pulling your jersey somebody hits it he hits on top or he hits over his shoulder and then it gets you know something like that they're not all standing there blows blows blows Jesus but they're also guys fall and hit their heads on the ice's too on the ice Yeah, the ices they hit on on all the ice is yeah Holy shit, Allie ham believes there's still hope for Pete to get the help he needs and possibly to become healthy again

Jesus Christ these guys have it fucking shitty man. I mean That's tough open. Yeah, that's really tough. I mean you got to feel bad for these guys. I do anyway. I feel bad for Stephen I feel bad for very much for Stephen. I feel bad for all these people Jimmy But not nearly as bad as I feel for Stephen Pete owner at a McDonald's in Gilroy, California Oh poor bastard. McDonald's franchisee. He went to college to California State University, East Bay To fucking own a McDonald's why? franchisee. He went to college to California State University, East Bay to fucking own a McDonald's. Why? Okay. He's owned it since 1993. That's McDonald's. Okay. Steven Pete, chief financial officer at Ted, Iraq or

Ted track capital in Dublin, Ireland. There you go. And then Steven Pete, industrial electrician at Balfour BD PLC in the United Kingdom as well. And that's it now. August 30 2024. It comes out that somebody got hit by a car a pedestrian is in critical condition after being struck by a car. The Langley bypass.

So they said the RM RCMP is currently on the scene investigating an early morning motor vehicle collision. They said that frontline officers responded to the area and after a car struck a pedestrian the car was traveling westbound on the Langley bypass as the pedestrian was crossing near Kwantlen Crescent. The car collided with the 44-year-old pedestrian who was transported to a hospital with critical life-threatening injuries. The driver of the car remained on the scene to speak with police and anyone who may have witnessed it call this number is what they're saying. Then it turns out they

think that was that had to be him. It was August 30th, 2024. Then, that doesn't come out into that it was him until two weeks later, September 11th, 2024, when he dies. Who dies? Stephen dies. Stephen's dead. He was the pedestrian? Stephen died last month. Oh my God. He died a month ago.

He died a month ago. That's September 11th, 2024, he died. On the streets of Langley? He got hit by a fucking car at his parking. Oh my god. Yep. It's fucking horrible. That sucks, man. He said his friend Zarin there, Howie Zarin said, we just want to make sure people know that Petey was a good person. People always want to home in on the struggles, but he was a good person. He had a lot of buddies that were trying to support him. He, I guess, had died from the injuries of being struck by a car.

They said it didn't become public until he died, that it was him that got hit by a car. Oh, Jesus. So it's very fucking sad. The NHL Alumni Association confirmed that, yeah, he died and said due to injuries in a tragic car accident just over two weeks ago. That sucks. What the fuck? That really sucks. They said Howie Zarin said he was a protector. He didn't like teammates being pushed around. So that's why he got into so

many fights. And that was his job. And Zaren's a longtime youth football coach well aware of CTE and CTE's understood obviously to be fuck everybody up here so he said I wouldn't say I because they said Pete didn't regret the hockey path he'd taken but wished he had gone about things differently that's what Zaren said. Zaren said I wouldn't say regret though I think as he got older he wished he was a little smarter about how he went about it but he also told me I got to protect my teammates that's the game. So Zaren said he would go around Langley looking for his friends every friend every six weeks or so and he said he was usually able to track him down he would bring him some food and they would chat. So

he said he still had his wits about him. Even at his darkest hour he could talk the pants off somebody. Man, sometimes he would hear that Pete was going up to visit another friend who lived near Zarin so Zarin would leave Gatorade and granola bars out by the street for his friend to pick up and he always did. Like a stray cat? Like a fucking cat. Unbelievable. I was just going to say like a stray Labrador. A little like knowing the bear is always gonna come past, he said. He'll grab that. The Capitals extend their heartfelt condolences to the family of Pete, saying our thoughts are with his

loved ones during this difficult time. That's terrific. Good for you. Thank you for thinking of him. Jesus Christ, man. That is fucked up. Holy hell. The man lived in a truck until he was homeless. He lived in a truck until he got hit by a car because he was so fucked up. We feel real bad for him. Can't get enough of Steven Pete. Well, here is a Steven Pete autograph, 9899 Bowman CHL draft prospect rookie card on eBay for $22.99. It's autographed and everything.

So that's pretty cool. That's not bad. And then there is Stephen Pete rookie card autograph also here, card of the Washington Capitals. It's $11.99, Canadian. So even less American. Look at that. Steven Pete autographed signed 2002-3 Washington Capitals Be a Player golf card. He's in shorts and a polo shirt and has a driver and he's lined

up with a golf ball. That's a trading card? That's a trading card. A hockey player in a golf pose. Hilarious. Autograph. 30 bucks. So 30 bucks for a Steven Pete autograph basically I think we should wire one of those So there you go everybody that is Steven Pete What the fuck I? Mean not the most crime, but a real fucked up story and really a mess vast majority of his crime brought on by not knowing

Right from wrong yeah being fucked up in the head having brain damage guys got fucking brain damaged They gotta do something with this shit. I don't know what you could even do. I don't know what the solution is. I mean I guess their solution now is slowing down the amount of fights that are in hockey and yeah but any of these sports. But there are guys that are fucked over now. Hockey, football, and even soccer where it's that's one of the highest ones on it. You can't play the game without the head injuries. You can't, it's impossible. You can't play football without head injuries because it's not just the hitting the head on the ground

or kicking the knee to the head, it's also the whiplash or the brain. The stopping after, and they've also gone with football getting the fastest motherfuckers on the planet. So they're flying down the... And even if you wrap them up at the waist, that stop slams the brain into the skull. The guys, you can't get a guy who's 6'4",

2'00", fucking 60, and he runs a 4'4", 5'40". That's insane. He's dangerous. You can't, you know what I mean? But I mean, what do you do? Tell a guy you're too athletic to play in the NFL? Hit softer? Just let them know this is bad for you. It's I mean they all know it now It's gonna be real real bad. There's not one NFL player who's not aware of this There are some of the dumber ones who go that's bullshit and it doesn't exist They're idiots obviously and they've got also believe right? I'm sure they believe in Flat Earth and all sorts of other shit

They're there more runs not necessarily there's I mean it's got to be in contracts now, right that you you're not allowed to sue for it Now, I don't I don't know about that. I'm not sure there's got to be some legality that they face of Because they're making efforts to slow it or at least curtail it as much as they can You can't see MMA. There's no way to pad those sports. Well, that guy's getting hit. This is not a way. You win by hitting someone in the fucking head. How do you stop it?

The fucking points are made by punching in the face. You win by knocking a man unconscious, like that's, which is then fucking his brain up, and then everybody cheers for you, and it's crazy. So I mean, what do we do except go, I don't know, I guess that's how people are, maybe get like a, like a, like a, like a state park that we that we just fence in and let them all wander around. I don't know what to do with these CTE guys.

I guess the answer is at least you're not being eaten by a lion. Yeah, there you go. I don't know. So there you go everyone. There's Steve and Pete. If you like that story, tell the world about it. Man, my sinus medication's wearing off and I am hurting now.

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