Crime in Sports - #433 - Boobs Out, Guns Down - Keith Appling

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

This week, we look into a man who barely played in the NBA, but spent plenty of time upping his crime stats. From a very nasty allegation, from the first day of college, to a slew of charges, that become more fast & frequent. For one thing, he can't seem to go anywhere without a loaded weapon. He also feels that heroin is the way to go, for his post sports career & he tops the whole thing off with a cold blooded murder!!Be the best at your sport, in your entire state, dodge a rape allegation, that seems extremely true, and murder your uncle on the fron t lawn with Keith Appling!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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to support the show. That's the best way to do it because that money goes right in our pocket. So thank you for that. Let's talk about our friend of the week here. Here we go. Keith Damon Appling, A-P-P-L-I-N-G. You know this guy? He's an NBA player. Well, I mean, he was briefly an NBA player. He also played on a lot of other teams such as the Eerie Bayhawks and the Los Angeles Defenders. So he's really, really doing it. He's gotten around quite a bit here. And I think he has more arrests than teams he played for though. So that's good.

Yeah. He's a mess here. We'll talk all about him. He is born February the 13th, 1992. Oh young man. He's got some left in the tank. No kidding. And you would say, oh man, this's got some left in the tank. No kidding. And you would say, oh man, this guy could have a second episode, but once we get to

the end of the episode, you'll go, oh no, he's not going to do much more. No? No, no, no. There's a reason for that. They got him under control? I would say that's a good way to put it. He is born then, he's from Detroit, he's a Michigan guy. He's only 6'1", basketball player.

6'1", 190, little point guard type of guy. Yeah, little guy, went to Michigan State, as we'll talk about. His mom's name is Tati. Yeah, like the hot kind of. T-O-T-T-I-E, Tati. Oh, that's not a Tati at all.

Tati. That's a first name? Yeah, like Tootie with a T instead of another O. Yeah, all right. Tati Williams is his mother's name, And we don't know too much about his young life because a lot of times either they have to be very famous for somebody to give a shit enough to go like back to their neighborhood and ask their friends and teachers about them. What was he like? Yeah, what was he like? If they're not that

much of a phenom, then it just doesn't't happen or they have to be like a fucking monster that they're like we have to find out what created this. What started this? Yeah, what happened? So he played high school basketball at Pershing High School in Detroit and in 2009 as a junior led his team to win the Michigan High School Athletic Association Class A basketball championship. Wow! State champs! He's pretty good. During the title game he set a MHSAA championship game record by scoring 49 points. Which is in one game. In the championship game too. Right, in high school they barely score that. I was gonna say, 49-45 is a common fucking final score

in high school, so the previous record had been held since 1983 also, so I mean it was around for 25 years. He broke it. So the next year as a senior, he was Mr. Basketball of Michigan. Of course. Of course. So I mean he really had a,, he was Mr. Basketball of Michigan. Of course. Of course. So I mean, he really had a look like a future.

I mean, he looks like he's gonna be Alan Iverson for Christ's sake here. He does that in his junior year. He's got another year to go. He's dropping 49, he's doing all of that. I think he only plays football or basketball whereas Iverson was a two-sport star too. Do you know that?

I think, did he play running back? He was a quarterback. Get out of here. Oh yeah, he was great. He was. I believe it. He was recruited more in football than in basketball. Wow.

He was recruited like crazy, but when he got in trouble, nobody wanted to recruit him anymore for football. And I guess. For basketball, they're like, yo, this guy's gonna be great. No, no one wanted him there either. Really? His mom went to John Thompson. Oh

And said look my son is Allen Iverson. No, you heard of him. Blah blah blah blah Yeah, basically if you don't take him he's fucked you got to take him and and need your help and you know help him basically Yeah, and John Thompson was like shit that motherfucker can do my dog from the foul line. You bet your ass I'll take him and that was that Oh rad. Yeah, he was a great player. So underrated Iverson's one of those guys that You don't hear you never hear in conversations of great players nowadays And you're like if that motherfucker played in the league now when you couldn't clothesline him on the way to the fucking rim Right, not only we would he averaged 38 a game But he would also have played a lot longer because he wouldn't have been bashed up all the time.

Yeah, but there's also that fucking gross corner of the NBA who they labeled. He'd get so much grief today just for being himself. Like John Moran. I mean, John Moran's dumb. He's an idiot. He's a fucking asshole that grew up in a nice neighborhood and then tries to be a gangster later. Whereas Allen Iverson is just a product of the streets and he's a good dude.

He has a good heart. He's like Marshawn Lynch, in my opinion. Very similar guy where he's probably got something loose up there that makes him a little nutty, but it contributes to him having a lack of self-care, self-preservation in the field of play. If you watched Iverson play, nobody ever played harder than Allen Iverson, who's ever played bad. Allen Iverson is definitely the Marshawn Lynch of the NBA.

He didn't practice. No. And the reason he didn't practice. Famously. Well, I mean, I've heard him say, he was, I can't remember, I think Magic Johnson, no, not Magic, it was somebody who told him, young in his career, like,'t fucking practice, like practice,

don't put it all into practice because. Yeah, don't hurt yourself over this. You know, in games he would break his ass, so if he did that in practice too, he would have been hurt all the time. But I mean. Was it him with the and one shoes? Was it him?

Later on, maybe, because I thought, wasn't Steph Marbury the one? It was Steph, wasn't Steph Barberry the one they broke in the fucking game the first time he came out with him? Yeah. But Iverson would score fucking 35 a game today. Because no one's allowed to touch him. And he can carry and travel at the same time. He can carry, travel, and you can't touch him. The poor guy was restrained to two steps, James. He had two steps wasn't allowed They dude they used to call travels on him and when he first came in the league he had two steps

No, no, no, no on his car. They call carries Oh for the carries because his hand would be sideways fucking now you can pick it up over your head like a fucking serving tray Take four steps spin and they're like, that's fine. That's a euro step. Don't worry about it looks Nobody went near him right cuz I mean also a foul Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah, the poor bastard restrained to two steps today good Christ Dude guys like him a guy like him who and also here's another guy who you never hear his name Kevin Johnson Imagine Kevin Johnson if you couldn't clothesline him to the ground every time he drove the fucking lane cuz that's all everybody did to him They would tackle him

Imagine if you couldn't do that ruined that I think I don't think oh, yeah I'm up now. I don't give a fuck about that. I'm talking on late on the court like he would be a guy like that Yeah, that's what I mean Yeah, he's a fucking he would kill it now. It was so good. He was so good That's a guys like that, but I mean obviously he would why did they give you a rape? Why'd they give the the great point guards the worst shoes to like Allen Everson shoes were hideous That's what they wanted box. Yeah. And then Kevin Johnson had those big black Nikes and Converse too. The Converse React because I had a pair of those in the 90s.

The Reacts were pretty good actually. Were they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were okay. They weren't bad. They were alright. I had a pair of those. They were good for basketball. They were comfortable. Yeah, they were good. I found guard shoes or center shoes are always clunky. Like you can't ever get a David Robinson's or yeah, giant clotting things. Shack had those like goops or flax or some shit like that. He had the pumps that weighed 35 pounds and then David Robinson had the pumps. They was like, I'll make pumps that weigh even more. I'll put a big apparatus in the back. So anyway, Appling here, at the end of his high school career, he was considered a high level recruit, which I mean, I don't

know how you wouldn't be. Yes, junior year, you broke the record for Christ's sake. And he was the 34th ranked player using the RSCI recruiting services consensus index rankings. So this is how, if you're like a college basketball junkie, this is how they figure out who's good. He's probably the best player in the state of Michigan, but other players in other states, whatever better base on stats.

I'm sure there's eight guys in Florida better than him, just because that's where a lot of athletes move, or 10 guys in California better than him, or it's where a lot of athletes move or 10 guys in California better than him or whatever the fuck. But in his senior year, he averaged 28 points a game, six rebounds, five assists. And he was also selected to play in the 2010 McDonald's All-American game and he scored 10 points in that. But that's like an all-star game where they move everybody in and out all the time. It's a showcase. He's putting up 28 per game and then dishing another 10 at minimum if they're all two points.

In high school. He's generating 38 points every game. Yeah, for, you know, the team probably averages 60. So that's pretty good. So he chooses, he has a lot of choices on college and he chooses Michigan State. Got to stay home.. Gotta stay home. Gotta stay home. As we know for crime and sports,

that's gonna benefit our cause. For him staying home means that he's gonna be committing some crimes, but for him, not good. As a top recruit, the advice I have for you is, leave the fucking state and get the free education because otherwise you wouldn't be able to afford an out of state-state tuition. The only guys who made staying home work are Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.

One went to MSU, one went to Indiana, and they turned out fine. Everybody else, fucking disaster. Get the fuck out of there. Disaster. Don't do it. So with the Spartans here in 2010, 2011, they were 19 and 15 that year. Michigan State goes like up and down. Yeah. They seem to... Yeah, they have flashes from time to time of...

Yeah. Yeah, when they're good for a while and they're not good for a while. Kaelan Lucas, Draymond Green on his team. As a matter of fact, he was a junior... No kidding. Not kicker himself. ...when he was a freshman. Yeah, I don't really care for Draymond Green. That's his fucking finishing move is just to slap balls. I think he's just kind of I don't know. I he's one of those guys. Incredibly overrated. Yeah, I feel like he thinks he's tough and it's like he's tough for this league. But like he's not even tough for this league

because he's kicking balls, James. Actually swinging at people's testicles. You know what I mean? Like the biggest pussy move. Charles Oakley would have murdered him on the court. For sure. You know what I mean? He would have fucking body slammed him on the court. Like there wouldn't have been.

And aimed at his face. Yeah, that's, well, yeah. Like a man. Back in the day when an NBA fight happened, that shit was real. Other sports like baseball fights, everybody gets in the middle. It's just a big hugging session. I mean, hockey, obviously, that shit was real. Other sports like baseball fights, everybody gets in the middle, it's just a big hugging session. I mean hockey obviously that's a

real fight. Football fights are the pussiest of them all. You're wearing pads and a helmet. Oh wow, you're real tough. But basketball, they're wearing nothing. This is bare fists on fucking bare, you know, face. That's tough shit here. So who else? Adrian Payne, who played in the NBA, is on this team. That's about it. So we're going to say it right now. He's a freshman.

Good for him. He's going out to play for Michigan State. It's grace at this point. Wow, is that right? Yeah, it's grace because we find out that this doesn't come out till much later, but we find out he was doing some shit in college here. What was he doing? Apparently, allegedly here.

An MSU student named Carolyn Schaener, I don't like where this is going right away, says on the night of Monday, August 30th, 2010, a friend walked into the campus police department and told investigators, or her and a friend walked into the campus police department and told investigators, or her and a friend walked into the police department and told investigators about an incident that happened the night before. Go on. Well apparently the Shanner had, or Shanner had moved into Wonders Hall, which is one of the housing units there.

Sure. That made it sound like a prison. It's one of the housing units. She's in Block D over here. That way. One of the housing, she's in block D over here. That one of the pods that weekend and attended an orientation meeting. Though she did not know who they were, she saw top basketball recruits Adrian Payne

and Keith Appling during the orientation, but she did not speak with them. She just saw them. And I'm sure people are like, oh, those are the basketball guys. I mean, you know. The school like MSU, the athletes are probably, they're probably pretty thought of, you know, highly.

Later that evening, this Shainer, she ran into them in the dorms lobby and talked with them before accepting an invitation to go back to their room where they were playing miniature basketball. Okay. Yeah. What? I mean, yeah, that's not good. Yeah, that's what I mean.

She's an 18-year-old girl. She's a freshman, and she's like, oh, I'll hang out with you. They seem nice. Meanwhile, this is a, well. Two guys and just her? You walk into a lion's cage. These are athletes, too.

Two men began, those two men, the basketball players, began taking their clothes off with each missed basket Like I'm gonna play strip strip miniature basketball my roommate. Yeah, just though. They're just taking a take I want to see that dick man take it out Now you miss take your shirt off I think we obviously know what the goal is here for everyone to be naked and then give this girl a nice Eiffel tower Is what they're looking for here, but we'll see what happens Yeah, sure the two men began taking their is what they're looking for here, but we'll see what happens here. Sure.

The two men began taking their clothes off with each missed basket, but she refused to take off any more than her t-shirt because she had a sports bra underneath. That's all she would take off is her t-shirt. So she then said that the two men, our guy and Adrian, what was his name? Adrian Payne. Payne, yeah. Good, good name for him I wonder if he's Tom's son what every Tom Payne son fulfilling the legacy of his

dad honest to Christ just gonna say if he whips out a dish rag you run way you run our window and fucking yeah if you have to jump out the window like Jodie Foster on acid in that fucking old clip of a thing Just do it telling you so She said that they cornered her and turned off the lights She told police she felt trapped and fearful of refusing their advances She told police that Appling removed her underwear And then they pulled her to the ground and started penetrating her vaginally, anally, and orally. There's only two of them so

they had to move around for that. Yeah. Jesus, she told police that she said I don't want it, stop, and don't and in an interview, a video interview here, Payne, Adrian Payne, told detectives that Shana indicated she wanted to leave. Well, that's, you just described as a rape, son. That's not. Dude, you're not helping yourself. You just described having sex with a girl

who had indicated she wanted to leave. That's. That's bad. I mean, there's a line, and it's cut right there. That's the one. And you continued, Mr. Payne? What happened? So according to the police report,

Payne told officers that he, quote, could understand how she would feel that she was not free to leave. Okay, dude, you're... So we cuff you now or when? I mean, you're just not helping. Payne was concerned about her reaction to the circumstances, and even asked appling to apologize to her

the report stated That's you're beyond you just raped a girl you're beyond apologies I believe at that point pain told officers that he apologized to her because quote it seemed She felt that they disrespected her That's a, wow. Talk about an understatement. I mean, Jesus. Violated.

Disrespected is really a- Perpetrated a crime against is what you did. Yeah, that's very disturbing. Based on your own words, I don't want him to be upset at me for calling him a rapist, but that feels like a rapist would say that thing I it doesn't feel like it's what a rapist would say if it was yeah if the jeopardy category

I understand how she would feel that she was not free to leave you'd go what a rapist would say I Mean that would be Right, that's the answer the question of that answer. What would a rapist would say. I mean that would be right? That's the answer to the question of that answer. What would a rapist say, Alex? Phrases by a criminal followed by M words. I'll take criminal phrases for 400 please. Jesus Christ. You're not allowed to leave while we sexually. In all three of your or if us is yes what a rape actually violent rapist say that's 500 for you moving on what a contrite rapist might say categories are yours James let's see I'm gonna stick

with criminal phrases here for 600 seems like I could probably get to run this board. I'm gonna get clean sweep. Okay I hope the Daily Double's in here let's keep going. Holy fucking shit. By the way they go on because this is an from an ESPN outside the lines report they go on to say that they you know they're not the ones

called calling this woman's name out by choice she sought to reveal her identity to, so she was fine with this. Appling did not talk to the detectives at the time, but granted a phone interview with Outside the Lines in 2017 about this. This all came out much later. And he says, quote,

oh my God, this is, um, this is wild. Um, you know what? We should probably do it in their own words because this is Jesus. I know what that music was made for really dumb statements that are not self-serving, but are trying to be in their own words, quote, it was consensual. He never heard her say no or stop. Had that been the case, I would have completely granted her wishes. We're not even those type of guys. We wouldn't want anyone to feel uncomfortable around us."

So shortly after this here, Payne, because the story was published in 2018, Payne was playing on a two-way contract with the Orlando Magic and the development, you know, the D-League teams or G-League or whatever it is now, but was waived by the Magic when this came out. Is that right? Yeah, even an eight-year-old rape isn't going to go fly well here. Now the woman here, Shainer, says campus police investigators told her that because of Payne's police interview, they had a solid case to pursue and once the case was forwarded from police to Ingham County prosecutors, Shanner

was interviewed by an assistant prosecutor. Shanner says that the prosecutor told her that she did not seem strong enough to stand up to questioning that would come as a result of making allegations against basketball players. Is that right? questioning that would come as a result of making allegations against basketball players Like basically they're gonna come hard for you Yeah, not only the defense but the media the they're gonna want to get a piece of you the fans that love MSU Basketball are gonna they're gonna attack you they're not gonna go. Oh get those pieces of shit off the team They're gonna gonna go, that girl's a fucking liar, kick her out of the campus. Destroy her credibility and possibly her life.

Yeah, so no charges ended up being filed in the case, because the prosecutor didn't think she was strong enough to stand up to that. I mean, rape victims oftentimes are not, because they've just been beaten by somebody. Yeah. Or multiples. But they thought the same thing about Ted Bundy, are not because they've just been beaten by somebody. Yeah. Multiples. But they thought the same thing about Ted Bundy.

When Carol DeRonch, the one who got away, picked him out, they said she's a real shaky witness. But they were like, you know. We got to go forward. What else? We just go, oh, fuck it. Give it a try, at least. I don't know, maybe try to pump her up a bit.

I don't know. So that's just going, well, we probably won't get him. And I'm sure they'll never do it again. Yeah. This is during orientation. They just got there. Yeah. These guys didn't- This is the entire reason that Baca exists, though, so that people like this have people

on their side of the courtroom. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because that's so fucked to be there just alone. And if you got at least somebody sitting back there that stinks in a leather jacket and fucking seven teeth in their face, that's a scary fucking guy. If he's sitting back there going, you tell the truth and you have no, I've got nothing to lose in this face. If that guy wants to fight about it,

we'll fight about it. That's I love that. But I wish that there was more of that, that there was, I don't know, we, we just don't, nobody, I guess it's kind of gross to go be a voyeurist to a fucking- I don't want, yeah, I want everyone to mind their own business and I hate vigilanteism, because I think people are waiting to come to decide

to decide where it can be doled out and applied. I would like somebody that has the truth to tell to have some fucking support on their side Yes, not necessarily vigilante ism Just fucking stand there next home while they say what they got to say cuz it's fucked up that they have they have to relive This whole thing over again. It's so shitty. Yeah. Well, I mean they have it's literally the state versus that guy So I mean they supposedly has the state But the point is that when you're dealing with basketball and not even basketball, just sports in general, these fans don't fucking care. They're just,

they're like, I would, don't give a shit. I know that they're raping. That's fine. I want points and I want wins and I want to, and especially college fans, they're the weirdest ones of all. Cause they're like, you know, I went to this school so I don't care who rapes anybody. I want them to win so I can fucking have bragging rights over the other guy from my office who went to fucking Ohio State or Michigan or wherever the fights. That's weird. You guys are weird.

I'm so... College people are strange. And they only have a small window of time to have this team together before they all go their separate ways because they're gonna age out of this. They are. In four years it's over for this particular team. So you gotta hope that your recruiting is good enough to get these guys again next year. It's not gonna happen. You never know. So this drew some local media coverage, the allegations, and prompted campus protests for against the basketball team and all that kind of thing. So a regional

representative from the US Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights reached out to the MSU officials and offered assistance. The representative learned nearly immediately that MSU had not started a Title IX investigation into the matter, which is required by federal law. So the university then hired an outside attorney to conduct a Title IX investigation. This is almost two months after the initial report was made. And on December 19th, 2010, the attorney concluded that the two men did not violate university policy, which I guess I mean, they violated the fucking law. I don't know what university policy is or what I

don't know if that condones forcible sex in multiple orifice, but I Don't know. Maybe that's just something really awful about this kid and Adrian pain his dad's name is Thomas pain. No, it's not is it Oh my god, is it Tom? I swear to fuck his dad's name is Thomas Paine. Is it me, Thomas Paine? I'm trying to find it right now. I'd love to know if it is, but it says his dad's name is Thomas Paine.

If it's him, I'm sure in our Tom Paine episode we mentioned it. Maybe. So, we'll go back. I'll go back and- I'm beside myself. I will go back and listen to our Tom Payne episode. And see if he's got a son. We did him very early.

He's a guy we need to redo. We should redo that. We should redo him because that was very, he's a monster. It's a very gross thing, yeah. He's a fucking monster. One of the biggest monsters we've ever had on the show, which is saying something. So, I mean, either way here,

the university hired this guy and they said no no no violation of University policy shocking. So Shaner Didn't accept that finding so in 2011 She filed a complaint with the US Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights accusing the University of several missteps She said the school did not follow its own policy when relocating the two players, a move she told outside the line she hadn't been made aware of. She said that despite having a personal protection on her,

the university allowed Payne and Appling to walk by her and be in very close proximity to her. They don't even have to stay away from her? No, they don't even have to stay away. Her complaint also stated that the university has been slow to respond to this incident and has made attempts to keep the incident as quiet as possible. Yeah, that's not surprising. So Michigan State in response stated it took all appropriate actions by immediately assigning

the two basketball players to different campus housing by offering counseling and academic services to Shainer and putting strict restrictions in place to limit the two basketball players' presence near her. MSU said that any encounters among the three were inadvertent and not retaliatory in nature. Now Appling, while talking to Outside the Lines, said in one instance here in which he and Payne encountered Shainer was an accident and they were absolutely aware of the fact that they were not supposed to be around her and they just happened to pop up in the same place. You don't believe in ghosts. I get it. Lots of people don't. I didn't either until I came face to face with them. Ever since that moment,

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And he actually starts, Appling starts 19 games as a freshman that year Oh my plays in all 34 starts 19 22.9 minutes a game six point four points one point three assists, so He's playing 2011 2012 29 and eight Michigan State is see if they flip it like that There they're they're crushing it. Draymond Green is a senior here and they have Brendan Dawson is another NBA player on the team here. So here's an article a fluff piece from the Detroit Free Press.

MSU's Appling thrives in transition from top scorer to floor leader. Sure. Thriving. He's thriving. All right. He's getting every hole he wants. He's thriving. He's taking it to the hole. Taking, yeah. Jamming balls and holes, James. Keith Appling could sense it. This wasn't always so. In fact, a couple days after Thanksgiving, during halftime of a sloppy game at Eastern Michigan, Appling was listening to his coach as he ripped

him to pieces precisely because he didn't push the ball. Okay, they said that Izzo joked later that he had to threaten his point guard to get him to take advantage of his transcendent athletic gifts. Apling grinned when asked about his coach's urging, something he often does when he's on the receiving end of criticism. He says, quote, Oh, this is Draymond Green says, quote, I can yell at Keith anytime I want and he never has anything to say back. Half the time he just smiles and says, okay, he's just fun to play with. Part of that joy comes from the sophomore point of point guards increased understanding of what his team needs from him at any point. So when MSU fell behind by six early in the second half against Northwestern on Saturday,

Appling took the ball, built ahead of Steem and began racing to the basket. He made a layup and drew a foul, then drew another shooting foul. The burst momentarily kept the Spartans in the game and gave the defense a chance to find its footing. In the end, MSU couldn't figure out the Wildcats' system of cuts and screens, but Appling had shown a sense of the moment again. His flurry briefly quieted the crowd on an afternoon where he'd left his jumper in Lake Michigan. As MSU's surprisingly successful season unfolds, and tonight comes a showdown with Michigan, it may not even be his best asset at the moment.

Appling arrived in East Lansing as a dynamic scorer. He averaged 29 points as a senior at Pershing and dropped 49 in the state title game, a record. Yet as a freshman last season, Appling quickly established himself as the Spartans' best perimeter defender. This season he's just simply a team's most dominant defender no matter what the position. He said, coming out of high school, I never thought this would be his strength, Tom Izzo

says, and now I think he can be one of the best in a long, long time as far as defenders. They said, Athling is listed at six foot one, although this may be generous as all basketball players are listed higher, especially if they're around six foot, they're six fucking one, although this may be generous, as all basketball players are listed higher, especially if they're around six foot, they're six fucking one, period, oh yeah. Well he hangs out with fucking Payne, a center, he's huge. Yeah, he's huge. So the point guard and the center took that group, golly.

So he's gotta be Tom's kid. He's gotta be. Gotta be, six, 10, and his dad's named Tom Payne. Named Thomas, and he's a basketball He's got to be. 6'10 and his dad's name is Thomas and he's a basketball player and come on man. So I, well I'm gonna re-listen to that episode. I can't wait. I can't wait. They say still even at a hair over six feet he combines such quickness and explosiveness that he's able to turn heads in practice as he demonstrated last week when he drove the lane leapt and rammed down a one-handed hammer that momentarily took his teammates breath away. Phenomenal athlete says Austin Thornton, a senior co-captain who gets to watch his teammates

try to contain Appling during practice. Jesus Christ. So, yeah, they go on to say this year Izzo has handed the team over to Appling. It wasn't a smooth transition early, especially when freshman Travis Trice came off the bench and ran the team so effortlessly. I haven't heard of him since then. He did great. He did great.

But they said that this guy doesn't possess Appling's explosiveness and ability to lock down opponents on the perimeter. So they said that Green said, if there's someone who can stop him in transition one on one, I haven't seen him. Sure. These days, the coach doesn't have much to say. Appling knows when to turn on the Jets, as he did against Northwestern, as he did against Wisconsin this month after Green picked up his fourth foul.

When Green walked to the bench, Appling stopped him and I told him, I told him I got this. Then he took over. Yeah. Oh, man. So they're, they're really kissing his fucking dick here in this article. This is as fluffy a piece as humanly possible. This is fucking crazy.

He said, I have to be the guy that gets everybody in the place they're supposed to be. I'm really not the type of person that's gonna scream at someone, but everybody has a breaking point. At certain points in the game, when they're not getting to their spots, I'm going to get demonstrative

I'm gonna be a little more demanding out there than I am early on That's good This year he plays in 37 games starts all 37 Averages 31 points again are 31 minutes a game 11 point 4 points 3.9 assists 2.9 rebounds, and 1.2 steals. So that's not bad. Yeah. These aren't NBA numbers yet, but.

No, no. He's still a sophomore. So 2012, 13, 27 and nine, Michigan State is. And let's see here what we have. He is going to play, start all 36 games that he plays in, 33.6 minutes minutes 13.4 points 3.3 assists 3.4 rebounds 1.3 steals so he's doing well now here's an article March 31st 2013 and it's from the Detroit Free Press it says Keith Appling other than a brief late

season slump Appling was MSU's most valuable all-around player as a junior. He's learning to run and lead a team. And if he takes another step in both areas, he could have a memorable senior season. So let's find out. 2013, 14, 29 and 9, the Michigan is here that season. Michigan State, I should say and he here

has some problems though January 26 2014 reality finally hits the shorthanded Spartans apparently they got they have some injuries here and Keith Appling bows his head and says I feel like I lost a family member. That's how bad it hurts. Okay. That's how bad it hurts. Well, apparently Brandon Dawson and Adrian Payne are injured. So. Both of them.

Both of them. He said, I don't get another opportunity, is what he says, Appling. So he's like, this is my last year, I'm a senior. Now the guys that could take us far are hurt. He plays, starts 32 32 games plays in 35 31.5 minutes a game 11.2 points 4.5 assists 1.2 steals three rebounds. So these are not Overwhelming numbers here. No, no, no not at all. But there's an article saying trio of Spartans ready for the NBA draft

I'm ready for the NBA draft doesn't mean anybody's drafting me. I mean, you know, you ready, Jimmy? Yeah, I'm ready. I got a suit. Let's go ready as I'm fucking out. I got a suit and a hat. I'm as ready as I'm getting. So give me a big jersey with number one on it.

It's great. Go. They said they spent the last month crisscrossing the country going from NBA City to NBA City on a series of auditions. Now Michigan State's three NBA draft hopefuls are ready to settle in and see where they finally end up. Gary Harris, Adrian Payne and Keith Appling, all who hope to hear their name called in Thursday's draft, reflected on the pre-draft process this week in interviews with MSU Spartans.com. Appling said last week he's unsure of his plans for draft night. You don't even know if you're getting drafted chief. I don't know what. Yes I'm very very

casual ass numbers. No shit that's not really they said he's projected by some as a second round pick. Okay The Detroit native said he has lost track of the number of teams he's worked out with as he tries to prove to NBA teams that he's fully healed from a wrist injury. So every workout that I go into, I just try to be the best person I can possibly be and just try to perform to the maximum of my ability. As far as all of the important people in the gym at the same time, pretty much everyone, pretty much evaluating your every move It kind of adds a whole other element to the whole workout process

As he said nothing is what he said there. That's Nothing out 2014 NBA draft here. Here we go 14 first overall pick 2014 Devin Booker nope no Andrew Wiggins Wiggins was number one Wiggins was number fucking one overall went after that of a stretch Jabari Parker okay and then fucking I and bead there from my okay that's a good pick at three Aaron Gordon yeah also got Julius Julius Randall was Booker not in this draft I don't think he was not a

bad no I don't see him he must have been at 13 or 12 not in the first round anyway so yeah that's not him looking here Glenn Glenn Robinson III was drafted in the second round. Gotta have him. Pass the junior for Christ's sake. Yup. Who else? Yeah, so there you go. Anyway.

Oh, God, he came out the next year. He came out in 15 or 16. Oh, okay. Yeah. And you got, there's, I mean, two, there's multiple MVPs in the second round that were drafted. Yeah. There's a lot of people coming in here. So, our guy though, Appling, not drafted at all. Not picked.

Not picked. With those numbers, that's shocking. Not picked at all, yep. He goes undrafted, but he joins the Portland Trail Blazers for the 2014 NBA Summer League. Oh, okay. Which they have every year. These are guys trying to get an invite to training camp

is why they have these. Yeah, yeah. January, or it says June 28th, 2014, Apling signs with Trail Blazers. So he says he didn't stay a professional free agent for long. The Michigan State Point Guard signed a free agent contract to play for the Portland Trail Blazers Summer League team.

The Blazers are scheduled to compete in the Las Vegas Summer League starting on July 12th. They'll play a minimum of five games. The event will serve as an opportunity for Appling to prove himself against other NBA prospects and start the process of earning himself a place in the league. Right. He says, I feel that would be something that's important for all the prospects to showcase themselves against all the other prospects from around the country.

He doesn't say shit when he says something. He loves to not say a goddamn thing. One class he paid attention at was media training class where they say, don't say anything, just say what they already know back to them in different words. That's fine. Just garble some words back and say, we leave it up different words. That's fine. Garble some words back and say it. We leave it up to God. That's it.

So I guess his draft stock plummeted when he hurt his wrist. That was the problem. He was averaging 17 points a game, hurt his wrist, came back, wasn't playing as well. So they thought maybe he was all fucked up now. So and September 23rd, 2014, he signs with the Los Angeles Lakers. Oh, look at this. But then that lasts less than a month that he's cut. So he signed a non-guaranteed camp contract with the Lakers.

And that was it. Didn't really do anything. On November 1st, though, he's acquired by the Los Angeles Defenders, not the Clippers, as an affiliate player of the Lakers. So they're like a minor league squad there. On March 7th, 2015, he was traded to, yes. The Dallas Stars. The Erie Bayhawks, yes, he's traded to a hockey team.

That would have been, now if there's ever gonna be a front page trade, basketball point guard traded to hockey team would be the most... That'd be huge. Front-page, babe. We'd be trying to figure that out. So then the hockey player's going to play point guard for the Lakers now? What's going on?

So he was traded to the Erie Bayhawks in exchange for the returning player rights to Cleveland, Melvin. Okay. Wow. Okay. That year he plays from 28 games for LA, 10 games for Erie. Appling averages 10 and a half points, three rebounds, 3.9 assists in 24 minutes. Then in 2015 he joins the Orlando Magic quote white team for the 2015 NBA summer league okay Yeah, and that is there so he's gonna be there and he agrees to a deal and he's just trying to

Do anything basically anything they have agreed to it. It's a two-year partially guaranteed contract So that's something he will you know he's trying to get in there. I mean, shit, that's good. If you anything partially guaranteed. Yeah. So they have to pay me how much. Okay, that's good to know. That's that's where I'll rest my rent on. Yeah, they they signed him. They signed a few other players that day. They said Appler will Appling will compete against newcomers Shabazz Napier for the role as Orlando's third point guard. So he was later waived by Orlando on October 19th after appearing in five preseason games. So they waive him and that's that.

Anyway, October 31st he is reacquired by the Erie Bayhawks. They love him. January 18th, 2016 he signs a 10-day contract with the Magic. Oh, they'll take him. These 10-day guys are guys where they have a couple of injuries and they're like, who basically will hold a chair from blowing away in the wind down at the end of the bench? We need to have a certain amount of guys on the roster, so we don't need anybody to play, but we need somebody on to sit there in case somebody else blows their

knee out so that year the magic of 35 and 47 so not exactly setting the world on fire here I'm looking at their roster is there's a reason why they went 35 and 47 yeah it is not great he makes his NBA debut the night he signs though they needed him today. Yeah, we've got very few point guards we need him in now. Immediately, January 8th in a 98-91 or 81 loss to the Atlanta Hawks. He had two points and one steal in eight minutes. That's something. Yeah and the Orlando Sentinel says Appling debuts. Point guard Keith Appling, who the Magic signed

to a 10-day contract, made his NBA debut when he checked into the game with 8.54 to go in the fourth quarter. So he's even in garbage time. The Magic were trailing 79-61. We're down 18 with 8 to go. Show them what's what. Send in fucking Rapey McEnd of the bench down there. Send him in. There you go. That'll work. Let's keep our legs fresh. Yeah. Appling learned the magic and tended to call him up from the NBA Developmental League after the Erie Bayhawks lost to the Delaware 87ers on Saturday in front of a crowd of 3,400 people in Erie. What is an 80s? I guess they were made a state probably in 1787 something the 87ers. Yeah, I got 76ers I don't know apling said I was excited. It's a great opportunity. I just want to come in and make the most of it

Sure, I mean that's good. Why not? He's only 23 by the way Really? Yeah asked about apling skill set Scott skiles the coach for answer quote. I think he's a very good defender He's tough. He's having a really really good year in the D League okay but do you want him here that's the thing. Is this Orlando playing with fucking Dwight Howard and everybody is this a good team? No the 35 and 47. Can't be. Those guys are all gone those guys are all gone. Those guys are all gone by now. Are they gone by now? Oh yeah, all those 2000s Orlando guys

are well flushed out by now. So they're saying that Marble and Appling both hail from Michigan. It's another player and played against each other in high school and college. And Marble said, I think he's the other guy, I think what really makes Keats such a good player is his competitiveness.

He competes on both ends of the floor. Well, that's what that girl said too. So that's not great. That's pretty bad, probably. And I think that's what really drives him. He has a similar personality to coach Skiles, a pest, a small guy who will be a pest. So he signed a second 10 day contract on January 29th. That same day, he was named in the East All-Star team for the 2006 NBA D-League All-Star game. Hell yeah. Oh man, that's impressive. That's a big one.

Very impressive. On February 8th, his contract expired, the 10-day, and he's reacquired by the Bayhawks, and he earned NBA D-League all defensive honors that year, all defensive team honors. For the Magic he played in five games, 5.4 minutes a game, 1.2 points. So not really doing anything late in the world on fire there here. Then May 5th, 2016, this is after that season, after he's done anyway, he is going to be

arrested and charged with carrying a concealed weapon and other crimes after this Dearborn Michigan. Oh, up there? Yeah, after being found in possession of... He goes home every chance he gets. Like he's... What is the deal? He's the go home...

Well, he probably can't afford to go anywhere else. He plays in the D League. It's like, I live with my mom, so it's up there. Yeah. He is found with concealed weapon and other crimes after being found in possession of guns and marijuana in suburban Detroit. The Wayne County prosecutor's office said he was arrested Sunday evening outside a Dearborn strip club. There you go. Hell yeah. Now you're an NBA player. Officially, you've been arrested outside a strip club for weapons charges.

Welcome to the league, kid. For an unregistered weapon. How do you do that? Un-fucking-believable. Club security called police after seeing a man pull a gun from the trunk of his car. Why'd you do that? I gotta take this in there with me, just in case.

Why would you? I try not to go. Here's what I do, all right? I try not to go, here's what I do, alright? I try not to go places where I feel I'll need to be armed. That works for me. Like at night, like night places, you know what I mean? Why do weapons need to be brandished when there's tits out? You should never have a gun. If tits are in perfect fucking view keep your firearm there was just a shooting

It's testosterone. Yeah, there was just a shooting like a week ago in a strip club with athletes involved So it's a mat. I think it's you're drunk Yeah, and the testosterone is flowing and they guys feel fucking real You know manly cuz their dicks are hard and they're fucking they can't fuck anybody So instead of and also maybe there's some homoeroticism going on and there's a lot of men at that place going No, you know I mean, yeah Telling you a lot of sober guys employed telling you don't don't be near her and a lot of just crap shit I'm telling you that's that's my number one of nightlife, is do I need to be armed to

be there? That doesn't sound like fun then, probably. So he, the prosecutors say Appling was in the driver's seat under which officers found a handgun. There was also a loaded weapon in the trunk and a small amount of marijuana. Sure. Okay, you gotta have that too, obviously. So a court hearing is set for him and he's scheduled to face these charges next month.

Two guns, little bit of weed. Who cares? Why not? Who gives a shit? Let's do it. So May 8th, 2016, he wins a big award. This is pretty prestigious, I will say. He never got to really win a lot.

He didn't win the, wanted the to win a national championship He didn't get that He was a defense all defensive team guy in the D League, but the Journal News Pronounces him quote knucklehead of the week, which is a prestigious award Knucklehead of the week here They said Keith Appling a former basketball star at Michigan State who was kicking around the NBA D-League, was arrested a week ago after he allegedly was spotted with a gun outside a Detroit strip club.

That is fucking hilarious. Yeah, that's very funny. They're challenging the search, is the way he's doing it. Oh, really? Yeah. June 19th, 2016, he faces even more weapons charges after this now After he's arrested again for carrying concealed weapon again. Does he love guns? He's fucking I don't know stop hanging out places. You need guns all the time stop

And just just know the law of where you're at to of if you're gonna do that No, what know what you need to also get a goddamn license. There's a way Yeah, he's not a car. Also, get a goddamn license. There's a way to get... Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, he's not a felon. He wasn't a felon. There's a way to get a license. He can have a gun if he wants one. Just follow the rules and get it. It's not that big of a deal. What the fuck is the big deal here?

So they say that he has been arrested again, suspicion of carrying a concealed weapon. Detroit Police Sergeant Michael Woody said Appling was arrested after an early Saturday, so late night Friday morning, or Friday night, after officers stopped a fast-driving Dodge Charger. They saw Appling, a passenger, place a weapon under the seat. Hold on, let me put this under here quick. The arrest comes days before Appling faces a hearing on weapons and drug charges from

a May arrest outside a suburban strip club. The hearing is scheduled for Friday, determines whether he goes to trial. This won't help, I'm sure. His attorney Cyril Hall says Appling hasn't been formally charged in this latest arrest. And Cyril Hall said in a telephone interview Saturday with the Associated Press that Appling didn't put the weapon under the seat. He said Appling didn't know the weapon was in the vehicle,

which he doesn't own and wants no part of. Couldn't have put it there, he didn't even know. He didn't even know it was there. He didn't know it was there. Didn't even own the car. He was just a passenger. Guy happens to keep a gun under the seat. Look man, wrong place, wrong time.

Unfortunately, the general rule of being in a car and getting pulled over as whoever the fucking. Look man, wrong place, wrong time. Unfortunately the general rule of car, being in a car and getting pulled over as whose ever fucking seat is under, that's who it is. Yeah, whatever product is under your seat is yours. That's it. If it's in your sphere of you. So if you get in a car with someone you don't trust real well, check under the seat, make sure you ain't gonna get arrested for any of that shit. Big bag of coke, put it under his seat. Now if the driver of the car would have said, no, no, that's my gun, it's my car, and I put it under there, then it would have been on the driver. Yeah. But unless somebody else claims it, whatever's under your ass is yours. You're going down for it. Period. So. You don't tell me this is.

Now he's looking dumb because at first he's like I didn't have a gun the search was bad Now it's twice and now it's happening again. That's not good. Yeah, he needs this guy Like he needs guidance. You know what I mean friend. Yeah, it's a friend. He needs he needs guidance He needs someone to tell him right from wrong from wrong and to support him in a way that other people haven't and luckily for him him in a way that other people haven't and luckily for him someone hears about his plight and comes a-knocking on his door and it's Vinny Pazienza's ma everybody hey look at that she's here and she says how is it you've come to arrive here? What are you doing? Oh my god, you're so talented. I saw you. You're dribbling it all around better than I could ever do. It's amazing.

My son, he can't dribble. Vinny, he doesn't dribble. He punches. But one thing, why the guns? Why all this gun? I'm going to ask you like Eddie Murphy asked that nice man in the movie. What's with all the gun? Why? And by the way, you're- Pachoot, you're so thin. You look- oh, you're very thin. 6'1". Maybe if you- you know what? If you eat pachoot you'll grow taller. You're gonna be taller and then all the teams will want you. But you know what? You'll also be a more formidable rapist, so I'm not sure if I want to load you up that much.

Maybe keep your weight down so a lady can get out from under you. You know what I mean? But either way, Jesus, you're messing your whole life up. Oh my God, please stop doing it. You're ruining everything. Oh no. And poof, in a cloud of marinara sauce and anxiety she's gone. It's all over with.

And Keith is very confused because he's not Italian number one. So he's like, why is this lady in my house? He's from Michigan. He doesn't understand Italians. No, he was very scared. He tried to grope her. She wasn't having any of that. He was like, oh, I don't know what else to do.

That's how I talk to people. July 21st 2016 because like there was no charges in that rape case, but the fact that the other guy said Don't think she she knew that she wasn't welcome to leave. Yeah the fact that he knew that it happened It's not like it didn't happen. Yes. No one made shit up at all So they just didn't feel comfortable prosecuting it for whatever variety of reasons and that's fucked up They made some weird tacit agreement amongst themselves that you know wasn't spoken I'm sure that was unless she screams were not stopping

Yeah, if she screams we're gonna have to stop because we're in a fucking dorm and that's not gonna be good But or they didn't even have that agreement. They just knew whatever situation was occurring that this was not we're not in trouble yet. That's what I mean. It wasn't like beforehand ago. We just keep going until she screams. But I feel like while it was happening, they were like, well, if she's not going to scream, we're just going to keep going, which is a crazy thing to do. Unless it was conjugal, James Thomas Payaine was incarcerated from 85 to 9 till 2000. Still, Ted Bundy had a kid. Yeah, yeah.

In jail, I mean. They do say in his documentary things, the articles about him, that his dad was incarcerated in his teenage years. I don't know, dude, if if it's him that's fucking crazy that he was a rapist had a child that happened to be a rapist too. A tall rapist yeah. Crazy. Between them that's like 14 feet of rape between just dad and son. And what are the chances a man named Payne had a dad named Thomas Payne and he's a rapist and his dad is not and

his dad was in jail it's that's I think it's a pain's a common name but still this is too much pain yeah how many people are over 610 in this country like fucking 45 people probably are over 610 in the whole country it's gotta be him right it has to be we'll listen to the episode again. We'll have to dig so much deeper. This is nuts. We'll redo that one. So here we go. He's facing trial Keith is on gun charges. Former Michigan State basketball player Keith Appling will face trial in Wayne County Circuit Court after a judge found there is enough evidence for the gun case against him to proceed. From the award-winning masters of audio horror. I see a face right up against the window. Bleach white, no hair, black eyes, a round hole for a mouth.

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Pistol in the car AK in the trunk loaded. I Don't understand why you spray up the strip club. What the fuck are you doing? It's so inaccurate too. It's such a stupid gun. It's a fucking it's a showgun weapon. It's a showgun That's what it is It's you look like a giant psychopath if you whip that out of your trunk at a strip club where it's... Right. I don't get...

Anywhere where there's tits, I feel like everyone should be like, Pinky's out drinking tea. Like we should all be so on our best... Gentlemen, Christ. Her pussy is out. I mean, Jesus Christ. If we act crazy, she might put it away. Aren't those not a thought that we have? Yeah, if a gun comes out, I think she's putting her top back on you guys. I'll get the fuck off

I'd be sitting there going Everybody does she she might not know we're watching her pussies out. This is great. Leave that shit in the car There's titties in holy shit. Yeah, I just can't see it. It's fucking crazy. So anyway Keith here is a it. It's fucking crazy. So anyway Keith here is a mess. It will just say July 29 2016 back do back in court again for a preliminary examination Connected to the second weapons charges that he has here Jesus it was 650 p.m. Outside the Pantheon Club

It was the second one. I believe believe. Security, oh no that's the first one, security officers there allegedly observed a man, he was at the strip club before 7 p.m. by the way. So, pre 7 p.m. on May 1st, so it's light out. This motherfucker, oh my god, he said well it's setting in about a half hour, it's time to go to the strip club right? We don't know when he got there. He could have eaten dinner there. He could have eaten dinner there. He got the buffet.

He could have been there 5 p.m. going, I wanna get the best seat on Sniffer's Row. The Sniffer's Row. I'll have the surf and turf, please. What the fuck? Oh my God. So during the search, they said they found a handgun in the driver's seat, a small amount of marijuana, the loaded AK in the trunk, and he was arrested and was cooperative at

the scene. His attorney said he believes his client was racially profiled by Dearborn police looking for other suspects. Did they have AK-47s in their tr it's pretty they were pretty accurate with what they described They said we saw that guy in that car pull this gun out of it And they went and checked and that's what was there which I don't know that seems like something and Yeah, and then he was also charged with the second one July 30th his lawyers say the car search was Illegal is that right?

Period. Yes, this is I believe from the strip club deal on the first one. 6 47 p.m. arrested. So that means he was there like pre six o'clock. Had to be, right? You don't show up and get arrested right now. No, no, no, that's when the arrest happened.

Yep. So he was arraigned and all that kind of shit. So his lawyer says that police told Appling they had been advised to look for a black man and a black Dodge Charger and that Appling in fact was in a royal blue Dodge Charger, which looks fucking black at night Come on. What are we talking or even just not in a shadow? Just yeah, I don't know and plus I'm not good with colors if I say something's purple It might be blue. So, you know what don't and don't let a guy off for that Dodge made that color knowing that full well that in the dark that shit looks black

Yeah, it's good. It's called the fucking the reasonable doubt model. I believe This one's called getaway blue. Getaway blue. At night it looks black. Yeah, see that? Isn't that nice? They said police weren't looking for him, is what the lawyer told the Detroit Free Press, other than the fact that it was a black person that didn't fit the description of the information they had at the time.

So why do you stop him? Why do you go into his car when you're looking for another vehicle? Look, I'm all for To agree with that but royal blue and black. I mean, we're really parsing You know what I'm saying and it's in the parking lot where the call was made Yeah, we check it and he's got the gun that they said he had I don't know So during the Friday's hearing they requested that the judge take time to review the videos, which they say they believe will show Appling's vehicle was illegally searched by police. The judge agreed to the request and adjourned the examination until next Friday.

The prosecutor said he has no objection to reviewing the exhibits given, which include a 911 call. And they said, we appreciate the fact that the court would take the time out to review the videos. Okay, so they said in regards to what the evidence we feel will be presented in court, it's going to be some policed car dash cam videos, and it will show the totality of all the facts arising as to why Mr. Appling's vehicle was involved in the seizure. Okay. So, they're saying, I don't know, one side's saying the videos will exonerate him and the other side's saying the videos

are just going to fuck him harder. The prosecutor said it's our contention that it was improper for the police to have held our client that after the judge had had the opportunity to review the video, we'll be able to make sound legal arguments to show that the evidence be suppressed. Okay, now August 28th here, he's arrested again. So he's not doing well. No. Every time they're like, you're just, you're singling him out for no reason.

Well then he's arrested again. But again, it's what you're doing. Well, can you stop getting arrested while I argue that they're persecuting you? Please? Please? Give me a chance for Christ's sake. No shit. And this is for carrying a concealed weapon again. Stop carrying...

Fuck, you have two cases against you. Stop. Stop carrying weapons. Why would you have anything? You're with other people. Have your friend carry a fucking weapon. You don't carry a weapon because you have two cases pending, stupid. And also, assault on, resisting or obstructing arrest

on a police officer with assault. So, he tried to fight the cop back when the guy tried to arrest him, essentially here. And it's four new felony charges for ex-MSU star, this article says, he's arraigned on four brand new, spanking fucking felony charges for ex-MSU star this article says he's arraigned on four brand new spanking fucking felony charges the new charges he's facing are carrying a concealed weapon resisting and obstructing police on the third degree fleeing and eluding and felony firearm possession. Why not? During his video arraignment here he is held on fifty50,000 and ordered to stay away from guns.

Bond said of $50,000, and pleas for the love of Christ, the judge says what concerns this court most is that this appears to be the third case of this kind involving similar kinds of allegations. In like four months, you're a dummy. They stopped him on a traffic violation on this Sunday while he was driving in the area of 7 Mile and Russell at about 9.15pm. A police car, our officer reached in the car to get his identification and Appling is accused of driving off while the officer's hand was still in the window.

Oh, you can't do that. He just drove away on my man with a fucking license. Wow, that's fucking funny Authorities say Appling threw a Gucci bag from his car Oh what police found the bag which had Appling's name on it and a handgun inside you fucking dummy You fucking dummy you stupid asshole idiot dummy fucking moron The bag's probably worth more than the fucking gun is too. Yes, and this guy, I can't have this, okay? This is illegal, I have a lot of cases pending against me.

I'm gonna put it in this fancy bag that has my name embroidered on it, because I'm a fucking moron. And then throw it out the window. Take it out of the bag first, at least, for Christ's sake. So that is fucking, that's amazing, honestly. Take it out of the bag first at least for Christ's sake. So that is fucking, that's amazing honestly. Police took Appling into custody later on.

During the brief hearing, they said that police sought to have his bond raised to a high level and said that Appling almost dragged the police officer. Well, he didn't probably almost drag him. He didn't hold onto his fucking arm and drag him. It probably sucked his arm out of socket or something. Scared the shit out of him probably more than anything. It fucked up his neck, rotator cuff or something. If he like grabbed his arm, looked at him in the eye and said, let's go for a ride,

that would have been like, whoa. He growled at him. He said like DMX, he said, let's go for a ride. Oh shit So that is fucking amazing Appling's attorney said there's nothing in the information He's received that indicates that a police officer was dragged. They didn't say it's almost dragged. So At the end of the day, this is a pistol case. He says Outside the courtroom. He told reporters that his client would be out on bond and plans to talk with him this morning. He thinks Appling still has a basketball career left in him.

Sure enough. He barely had one when he was considered not a criminal, so now it's going to be even harder. Wow, an emergency bond motion on those cases, both pending in Wayne Circuit Court as other cases scheduled this morning, because now they're trying to up his bond in those cases because he keeps fucking doing it. He will not stop doing it. So September 29, 2016, his gun trial is bound over. He waived his right to a preliminary examination for the most recent gun case against him and the case was bound over for further deposition and will happen a little bit later on.

I don't have time for another gun case right now. So June or July 3rd, 2017, he accepts a plea deal. Is that right? Yes, it does. This is it's the third it's the third one, I guess here, the third case in which he faces charges. So it's the last one. There we go.

It's really resisting. He pleaded guilty to carrying concealed weapon and resisting or obstructing a police officer and the two other charges, third degree fleeing and felony firearm were dismissed. The prosecutors also dismissed the other two cases against him as part of the agreement. So they just, they just combined all three cases into one, dismissed most of it and pled them out like it was one charge Now they sentence him to you sir May fuck off one year in jail. Oh

one year in jail and also five years of probation and The first year the first year of that in the Wayne County jail with no or early release You have to do a year in Wayne County Jail, period. That's what's happening. So Detroit police, yeah, they're talking all about that. They talk about the Gucci bag is the funniest thing in the world. His fucking name is on it. It's not mine. Oh, okay. So this is very funny. August 4th, 2017, they're talking to him and he apologized for his actions during his official sentencing because that's what they agreed upon. Now the judge actually has to put it on.

He tells the judge, I'm extremely disappointed in myself and I know I've let a lot of people down. Of course. I know I've made some mistakes, but I definitely learned from them and I'm just ready to get my life back on track. And then he's sentenced to a year in jail. He said he had poor decisions, he vowed not to repeat them. He said that the embarrassment I've caused my family,

my community, my university, my high school, and myself. And the strip club. And the strip, and those fine, fine young ladies in there doing the Lord's work and showing us their tits at 530 in the evening on a fucking Monday You'd be smirched titties, sir. Yeah, you have really man. That's just rude It's a really shitty thing to do. I've never thought to be violent around titties. It's no titties should calm everything down It's the great equalizer nudity. Stop it. If you had like a brawl, like a hundred guys and like an old West bar brawl chairs,

the stools are flat. If one girl said, Hey, hey, gentlemen, and then lifted her shirt, everyone should go, her stop. You should hear like everything stopped coming to a halt. Oh, I'm sorry there, but I didn't mean to hit you over the head. Hot mic sound and everything. Let's just stop. Yeah. Titties, you guys. Everybody not I'm sorry there, but I didn't mean to hit you over the head with that stool. Hot mic sound and everything. Let's just stop this. Fuck yeah. There's titties, you guys. Everybody, not around the titties, please. Not around the titties.

So December 18th, 2017, Tom Izzo, Michigan State's head coach, visits Appling in jail. Really? That's nice. That's where you wanna go see your former players here. Holy fucking shit, man. Tom Izzo used the 2009 Final Four to make an impression that would send Keith Appling from Pershing High School to East Lansing.

Izzo used Saturday's return to the Motor City as a chance to visit his former point guard in Wayne County Jail. Izzo said it was good to see him. I think he has a whole different perspective now. He's fucking better. He's good now. Look at my hair. It's very silver. He's good now. Don't worry about it. He will be required to spend five years on probation. Appling does not have a chance for early release. Izzo said that Appling, who was a sociology major at MSU, is attempting to enroll in a work study program. Izzo said, I'm really glad I went and I'm going to have the ability to go back a few times now that I went and I met the right people. I couldn't get in and I had tried to get in one other time.

The sheriff who let me in, the guy was good. He said he has compassion and prick in him, and that's two good things to have. I'm kind, but also an asshole, is that what he means? I guess so, I think he's saying that about Appling though. Like he has compassion, but he's also a prick. He told Appling right in front of me, two times is a problem, three times is this, meaning jail. He said, Izzo said, I think he'll turn it around. I really do. He's good now Yeah, and June 17 2018. He is back like a motherfucker

Not only out of jail, but he is back on the ball court. Oh, yeah He signed with Canaro's del Este in the Dominican League. Yeah Everybody knows that down there. Yeah, everybody knows about the Dominican Leagues Yeah. Everybody knows that. Very good times down there. Everybody knows about the Dominican Leagues. Those are very popular. He made his debut scoring five points in 14 minutes. This is the two-time Dominican League champion, this team. So this is their third dynasty down there.

Oh yeah. And yeah, he later joined Abahayas de Leon of the Mexican League. And then he finally though, March 19th, 2019, he signs, he goes to Italy to sign with Bakery Piacenza. Is that right? We've all tried, I tried, they wouldn't take me. He's playing for a bakery team? I guess so. I hope so. That sounds delicious.

Sure does. Imagine your uniforms smell like bread every game. You go in the locker room, you put your uniform on, it smells like bread. You're like, oh God, this is the greatest thing ever. There's pastries out and shit. Yeah, when you win, you get chivitelle. That's for winners. You get sandwiches. They got cannoli out. Cannolis for closers. Get in there. Yeah, always be cannoli.

Apling joins the team from Argentina where he'd been playing with Asociacion Deportiva Atenas in the country's top division. Apling has also spent time in Mexico and the Dominican Republic. He will join Piachenza, this team that's currently second to last place. Not good here, not great. February 8th, 2020. He is arrested again. Oh no, where?

In Michigan. Oh, he went back home, okay. Oh no where in Michigan. Oh This is not this isn't good here. This is controlled substance delivery manufacturing of heroin greater than 50 grams He's trafficking. He's trafis selling. He's selling dope now. Yeah Yeah, he made his money in Europe and brought it back and invested it, is what he did.

Yeah, in this shit. That's exactly what he did. Yep, he is facing drug charges after heroin found in his car. Apparently, he was stopped in Warren, Michigan here, and he was pulled over after officers saw his vehicle weaving in and out of lanes. You've got heroin in the car.

Yeah, well, it said he was sweating and unsteady and found to have heroin in the car. You need to be straight as an arrow when you have heroin in the car. Yeah, you get somebody very, very sober and fucking on the GPS following the instructions very casually. Perfectly. What are we 45? I'm driving 48 Great sweating and and and swerving no, it sounds like he's on heroin or coke or something It's I'm sorry less than 50 grams a golf ball sized amount 19 grams of heroin was found in a sandwich bag in the pocket of the car That's that's a lot of heroin. Yeah Warren police were driving down the street and saw a vehicle weaving in and pocket of the car. That's a lot of heroin.

Warren police were driving down the street and saw a vehicle weaving in and out of its lane. They pulled over the vehicle and it turned out to be Keith Appling, the Macomb County prosecutor. We know this idiot. He's still on fucking probation. This jackass. He adds that it turns out he had a significant amount of heroin in the car, so we've charged

him with distribution or selling. This carries a possible 20-year penalty for this. Prosecutors say at the time of the traffic stop, Appling also behaved very suspiciously and refused to answer some of their questions. He said Appling was sweating, shaking, very nervous, appeared unsure and unsteady. So he was charged with that and he's arraigned. God, this guy is a fucking mess. Yeah, he doesn't know how to do it.

He doesn't know how to do life. He's gotta change his fucking name or something, because they're like, oh, it's Appling, we know him. He's gotta move is the problem. You can't just stick around where you are and have... Get out of town. Every time the cops see him now, they're like, well, he's got something on is the problem. Yeah. You can't just stick around where you are and have every time the cops see him. Now they're like, well, he's got something on him. There he is.

I mean, you know what I'm saying? You know, once you're, once you're one of the, you know, you're at this point, once you're Bodie every time Herc can fucking carver see you, they're going to fucking Jack you up. That's the way it works. So you got to stop you and ask you some questions. Fuck out of town, bro. This is bad shit.

I mean, Jesus Christ, his name has turned to shit. I feel kind of bad for him I really do but not nearly as bad. Oh boy as I feel for Keith Appling Executive director of sales and merchandising at Lawrence food companies and he looks check him out Jimmy. He looks like Kenny Rogers Oh, he sure does if you didn't carve up his fucking face. Chubby Kenny Rogers and shit. Yeah, good for you. Also, yeah, he's been a lot of things. He's been the president of Appling Family Co. Yeah.

And VP of sales for Muffin Mam. Muffin Mam. Muffin Mam. Do you know the Muffin Mam? The Muffin Man. Dude, that cracks me up's clever as fuck. Do you know the Muffin Mam, the Muffin Mam. Dude, that cracks me up. That's what I like that one a lot. Also Keith Appling, sales director at CSM Bakery Products.

Bakery, bakery. It's a film maker. So if you search Keith Appling Bakery, it's going to come up with both of these guys. You can't get away from it. He lives in Tucker, that guy so um December 1st 2020 he goes to court and he is on this drug case in Macomb County and he is apparently I think he's gonna plea here he's gonna have to plea because he's I mean he had it there's really nothing much to say about it. The wind blew it into my car not a lot of not a lot you can do.

Yeah so they're gonna sentence him to no jail time he's gonna get probation on this. What? Somehow I don't know how he's on probation now. Yeah yeah and he's got weapons charges and now he's got a giant amount of heroin with him. I think you have to put him in jail for a while, right? They're really, I don't know, they're being nice to him, that's for sure. He has to have no drugs or alcohol in his system.

He can be tested at any time. He has to be employed 30 hours a week at least, undergo outpatient or residential treatment, and have his license suspended for six months restricted after 30 days for employment and probation in addition to paying fines court costs and all of that shit he if apling provides extensive proof of basketball games being played out of the country he may travel okay okay that's all going to end very soon here because that was December 2020. May 22nd, 2021. He's arrested. He's named as a suspect in a fatal shooting that happened Saturday night on Detroit's West side. According to the Detroit police, Appling 29 and a 66 year old man had a

verbal altercation that became physical and he needed a gun to fight off a 66 year old man had a verbal altercation that became physical and he needed a gun to fight off a 66 year old man. Kind of pussy ass 29 year old, you're six feet tall. It's a 29 year old professional athlete. Right, what do you need a gun for? Holy fuck man. Police say he fired multiple gunshots then fled the scene in a newer model tan colored Buick regal Are you sure it wasn't green or something cuz that could screw the whole thing

I'm brown the 66 year old man was pronounced dead at the scene That is fucking wild That is um that's fucked up Yeah, I would say he's on the run here. They didn't arrest him He's just he took off So they describe him as being six foot two two hundred pounds brown eyes black hair considered armed and dangerous And they have a whole you know, like call this number if you see him and all that kind of shit Grandpa for Christ's sake whoo. So May 24th 2021. He is arrested in Chelsea in an in for this shooting.

He was named a suspect after this and took off. Like New York? No, no, no, in Michigan, somewhere in Michigan. It was just a verbal altercation. This was 7 PM on a Saturday night, not even two in the morning. The guy loves to fight at fucking Sunset. Gunplay, Sunset Gunplay is his shit, dude.

He loves it. It's crazy. Ah, the sun setting. They put the AK in the trunk and go out for a drive. The sky gets a little orange and his blood starts boiling. Fuck, also a firearm was recovered during the arrest as well. Sure.

Because obviously this fucking idiot has a firearm. I'm surprised while he had heroin he didn't have a gun on him. That was a shocking thing. So June 7th 2021 he is to be charged in the slaying murder charge they're gonna charge him with that's anything else here office is pursuing following charges one count of first-degree murder one count of being a felon in possession of a firearm two

counts of felony firearm not good the victim Clyde Simmons or Clyde Edmonds 66. Of course his name is Clyde. Clyde Edmonds. Ah I bet he was fucking cool as shit too. Edmonds wife is the first cousin of Keith's mother. He's a he's fucking family. He's family dude. How do you shoot your family? He shot a motherfucker that would be at a barbecue at your house like that's fucked up. Shooting was reported and Detroit police were dispatched about seven, 10 PM to the 13 to 40 block of Whitcomb street at the scene. They found the victim on the front lawn of the residence with multiple gunshot wounds. This wasn't one shot.

Wow. They transported him to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. Appling's 28 year old girlfriend is also charged in the case Is that right? Oh, yeah one count of accessory after the fact and one count of lying to a police officer Apparently he's accused of having an argument with Edmonds over a handgun Over the gun overs a handgun of some kind of What yeah, did it belong to one thought it belonged to somebody else? I don't know what the fuck here No, they fatal he that ain't a NASA eight millimeter. He's like, it's a nine. I'm telling you they don't make it eight He's like, yes, they do and nine millimeter don't hurt

So yeah, he shot the victim multiple times and fled the scene. June 8th, 2021, he's to be virtually arraigned because it's June 8th, 2021. And yeah, I don't know if he wants to get bail or what the fuck here, but I couldn't imagine that's happening. They said it's been clear that this man has been spiraling downward for some time, the prosecutor said. Many of those that tried to intervene with this defendant were hoping that he would get on the right track and stay there. Didn't quite happen. He's also, by the way, been charged with assault with intent to do bodily harm less than murder

and felony firearm possession out of Jackson County for an incident reported May 2nd. A second, fuck, an incident. May 2nd a second fuck an incident Stop it earlier that month that same month that happened. Yeah, that's fucking crazy that happened on May 24th May 2nd There's another fucking three weeks ago. He's pulling guns out on people fucking left and right here That is bonkers, dude Wow, he was previously sentenced to 18 months probation after being found with heroin in his car. Okay, the prosecutor said it's always tragic when someone with someone someone with so much promise talent and the possibility is alleged to have committed the most serious of crimes. June 11 2021. He's not getting bail.

No, they he entered a not guilty plea, but tough shit. He's not getting bail. No. They, uh, he entered a not guilty plea, but tough shit. He's not getting bail. Um, his girlfriend's accused of driving the getaway car, by the way. Really? Fuck yeah. Uh, wow, that's fucking crazy. They asked coach Tom Izzo about this. Ah, Izzo.

He's like, shit. God damn it. I said he's good now, didn't I? Fuck! God damn silver-hired middle-aged white man shit it happens to me fuck Okay, he said when they said what do you think about this? He said sad. I'm thinking about him. I feel bad about him It's a shame what happened. I Don't want to think about him ever again. Nope February 13th

2023 he's going to plead guilty to second-degree murder and firearm charges here. Okay. Wow. You have to because I mean people saw it. It was in the middle of the he did it outside in the street and daylight and fucking broad daylight and it's his family. Yeah. It's fucked up.

Yeah, they're not all gonna fucking hide you here. I plead guilty to the charges on the same day his trial and the Edmonds death was set to begin So that's what happened here so prosecutor said that he fatally shot him and did all the thing there and his wife and Mother of first cousins that guy Jesus Christ The plea agreement calls for 18 to 40 years in prison for the second degree murder charge and two years to be served consecutively on the firearm charges.

The remaining charges he faced, first degree murder, felony and possession of a firearm, and second count of felony and firearm possession, will be dismissed at the sentencing hearing. She, the girlfriend, Natalie Bannister, pled guilty to one count of lying to a police officer and was sentenced to 18 months of probation. Okay, now, March 3rd, 2023 is sentencing here. Yeah. Holy shit. Here we go.

The, well, we'll just give you what he's sentenced to. You, sir, may fuck off. He is sentenced to serve 18 to 40 years in prison for second-degree murder and two years for the firearm possession. He asked the judge if he could withdraw his guilty plea, saying he didn't have a full understanding of what he was pleading to. Yeah, I'd like to go to trial now. Don't do that, you dummy. And the judge said, no, you plead. This happens so often.

Really? People plead and then they want to pull the plea back once they realize that they just fucking guilty Yeah, the lawyers I think I helped probably talk you into it Yeah, but you're gonna get first agreement and they can prove it. You don't want to pull that back. You're gonna get life They're gonna get your girlfriend to testify against you They're gonna get all kinds of shit like that. So wow. Appling here, they said, the prosecutor said, what an extremely sad turn of events. This was a senseless crime and the fact remains that this victim will never know another day of life.

So his Michigan DOC number is 390955 in case you're wondering. They have him listed at 6'2". So even in prison they list him above his real height. So that's pretty cool. That's not bad. Yeah, they all said a shade under 6'2", but 6'2 is what they... fucking wow. His earliest release date is May 23rd, 2041. Okay, that's a ways off. That's the latest release date, May 23rd, 2063. God damn it. And he's currently in the Saginaw Correctional Facility.

Yeah, if he fucks up in there, they're not letting him out, man. No, he's got a, here's his marks, scars, and tattoos. Yeah. He's got a scar on the forehead, a tattoo on the back of his left forearm that says Marcella, a tattoo on the center of his left forearm that says Marcella, a tattoo on the center of his chest, a tattoo on his left arm, it's a face with an RIP cross with dad on it. Left bicep tattoo, left calf tattoo, left forearm tattoo, a brick wall with fear none

written on it. Oh boy, he's prison through and through now. Yup, right bicep, right calf, tattootoo on right forearm brick wall with respect on it. So it's two four arms or two brick walls with fear none and respect And then here's the ultimate What's the ultimate asshole tattoo? No, no, no, no, no, you only get this unless you're a complete piece of shit This is the tattoo upper right arm Hands praying with a dove and it says what Jimmy only God can judge me

The ultimate scumbag tattoo If you see that it means that man has murdered someone if anyone's got that on. Or he's certainly capable of it and he doesn't care if it's his uncle. Or they have like, they drink like a 12 pack of beer a week and think they're an outlaw. One of the two. They're either a poser or a huge problem. That is too much. That is fucking amazing. Only God can judge me. So can't get enough of this murderous asshole. Here we go Yeah, well good luck for you guys out there the Keith Appling Michigan State MSU Spartan signed logo basketball with certificate of authenticity $150 like I don't want this it's kind of cool hundred-fifth one forty nine ninety nine though why for a convicted murderer's autograph

You think it would be worth less with his autograph on it. Like, oh, this... That's awfully steep. Some asshole defaced this basketball. It's cheaper now, right? Let's email them and ask them to be willing to come down on that price. We just want to play ball with it. We just want to fuck around with it here.

Or best offer. So I mean... Yeah. I'll give you 12 bucks. See if anybody would go higher. What do you say? How How about this you want to really feel Keith Apling feel him in your soul 2000 you can 2015-16 NBA Orlando Magic number 14 Keith Apling basketball worn shooting shirt. It's the pregame shoot around shirts Yeah, we'll get the three buttons on the top. One of those, 3XL by the way.

Hell yeah, I can fucking snuggle that. He's six feet tall. What the fuck is he wearing that for? A 3XL for one of those is to fit like a center. That's crazy. This thing is 6750, not even autographed. But it's worn, James, he did it. It's got Appling sweat in it.

Yeah, it might have his DNA in it. It's kind of good. Well, they might need that for a future. Yeah, let's bag thatling sweat in it. Yeah, it might have his DNA in it. It's kind of good. Well, they might need that for a future. Yeah, let's bag that up. For evidence. Can we bag that, possibly? We need to buy that just to save it for future evidence.

$67.50, it's on sale. It was $75. Let's get that and send it to Detroit Crime Lab and have them test it and check that against your fucking database Give a little give a little loop-de-loop around the computer system and see what you come up with. What do you say? and then a 2016 Panini Michigan State University Spartan silver Keith Appling number 44 is the card number Yeah, set here two dollars and fifty four cents two ninety nine shipping $2.54 is the card number. $2.54, $2.99 shipping.

The shipping cost more than the actual card itself. Please treat this piece of shit with some respect, USPS. Please do not fold. It costs $2.50. So that said. That's too funny. I know it's a shorter episode than normal, but it's just a guy who does nothing but play basketball and commit crimes.

That's all we have. That's all it was. Basketball crime, basketball crime. The NBA was a blink for him. How many games did he play? Barely any. I mean, I think he didn't start any, right? I think five games he played for the Magic.

I think that's the whole season. I think five games. I mean, Magic. Five games? Fucking loser. I think that's the whole season. I think five games. I mean five more than I've ever played. He's only played five more NBA games than I've ever played. He's got us beat by five, but he just, so rape charges, always has guns, heroin after he goes overseas, he fucking figures out that he can sell fucking heroin back home and then finally just...

Barely played more NBA games than me shoots his essentially probably call them Uncle Clyde shoots his mom's cousins that's an uncle I would call that guy he shoots Uncle Clyde in the front lawn nice job asshole anyway he might have the highest free throw percentage in the history of the NBA one two for two? He's made them all.

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Gary Howard, Kyle Norwag. Holy shit, Kyle, it's been a while. Larry Butterfass, it's been a while. Nice to see you. Wendy Loving, you're brand new, but we Have one men account. I don't know. She gets her ninth birthday Evelyn her birthday. I know I seriously Listen tell your parents. Yeah, the two very bad people have been in your ears and you can't have them there anymore.

Mommy and daddy are doing this all wrong Evelyn, I don't know what's going on. Or all right, they're doing it just right. Yeah, who's to say I guess. It's up to you. Other producers this week, happy birthday Evelyn. Happy birthday. Other producers are Trude, possibly Trudy, Pestless, Peaceless, Peacelese, I I don't know Peyton Meadows for Raja by Ibiza What?

Bay Ibza It's is that good. It's harder than mine. Not not that's a good one. It's harder than mine. I go. Hey, that's a good one Janice Hill scarlet Horbees in New Orleans. Thank you so much and She uh, it was embarrassed that she, I don't know, she saw us in Oklahoma City, or Kansas City, one of the two, and she- Were you in the front row? No, oh, no.

Front row center? Is that where you were? She saw us on the street, James, and she was embarrassed for whatever she said. Yeah, I don't care, that's fine. No need to be embarrassed. I'm sure you were very nice to us. Anna Lee, thank you for coming to the that. I'm sure you were very nice to us. Thank you, Anna Lee.

Thank you for coming to the show. Thank you. You are a marvelous young lady. Thank you. I have no memories of crazy encounters, so I'm sure you were fine. Other producers continuing are Andrew Chandler, Devin, nope, that's Kevin W., D Rock, Chrissy with no last name, Alexa Napieralski. Yeah.

Nope. Casey Bazoob, Juan Lopez, DJ Tadich, angel Abbott Megan with no last name Justin Tarleton Neville Milster piss. Oh, mr. Piss man. Got you. I think that's Taking a jab at me James. I think that's what that is Chris said maybe James Gil strap mine mine mine James Lee Jillian Roxanne Keegan Sarah would know last name Mickey Pinto Jennifer Pacheco Katherine Hunter Shirley savory Shelby Shelby Christopher CMP mofo cast Gilbreth Kaylee Kayla barman. Yep, Nikola Nikola Johnson, Nikola, maybe Gail Perry, Mike Weed Lira.

Is that right? Uh, Heidi Smith, Matt T, Emily Skinner, Patrick Murphy, Lady Dank, Alex. I don't know what that means, but I imagine she, it's a gal who smokes weed, James. I got a girl, Ryan Maureen Tubbs, Terry Hutchison, Steven McLean, Brian Hennis, maybe Steph with no last name. Daniel Sue Lack, uh, Terry Hutchison, Stephen McLean, Brian Hennis maybe, Steph with no last name, Daniel Sulak, Gracie Edwards, Campbell Ross, Chelsea Wagner, Jen S. Taylor with no last name, Anthony Anthony, no it's Amanda Shelton.

Anthony. Ah, Jesus Christ. I want to name him Anthony, but it's a girl. We'll call her Antena. Anthony, Jesus Christ. Kyle Kinghorn, Quinn Campbell, Nick the Trucker, A. Snyde, 1912. Holly Hargraves, Kristen Fredrickson. Mary Ryan, Cindy Patel, Alice Sartee.

Natalie Randall Gray with no last name. Lauren Huber, Erin Santarella. Colleen with no last name. Alicia Gwazdiz? What the fuck GW? OZDZ that's not a name is it she just mashed the keyboard Andrew Miller Vicki specked Jude or maybe Judy Sheridan Joanne Cleary Rachel Halgren Richard Halgren not Rachel

Sorry, Richie. Ellen Kelly Johnson, Jennifer Grishop, Jennifer LaFrance also, Chris Money, maybe Mone. Angela Sumpter, Katie would know last name, Ashley Priestler, Aaron would know last name, Ryan Adams, probably not that artist guy, but he's terrific. Dana Persia, Danielle Bachina, I think that's Ruth, I think that's terrific. Dana Persia. Good Daniel. Daniel Bachina. Bachina. I think that's right. Right. I think that's right. Celine's on a huge penis. Oh, do you see how that doesn't sound right? It's not nobody's named Hugh G penis. You see? Yeah, you got it. You got it. It's come on. Janus is Bart Simpson had better shit than that. Come on guys

Come on you Sheila rise or Bart it works Jen Blystone Laura caught it cut sick Danielle Coppette Rachel Reese Julia Juliet Highland Laura Larson Amanda Fabian Salters Fabian. All right, Tiffany with no last name, Pete with no last name, James West,

Kristen Gartman, Krista M, Chris G, Jennifer Allen, Alex with no last name, Hillary Keys, The940, TJ, Beener Schnitzel. You son of a bitch. That's pretty good, not bad. I hate that you made me do that. Melinda, Hillary, Hillary maybe. Anne Weezerack, Weezerack, Weezerack? Weezerack? Weiceck, Weiceck. All right. Clinton, I've done the best I'm going to do. Clinton, Bartek, Bartek, David Riviera, yes Rivera, Brandon Bowling, Lisa Fairman, King Cakes, Michael

McDonald, Emily Crofts, Kayla Reynolds, Justin Quisnell, Gretchen Still, Anthony Batten, Rylan Sink, Shasha Shankia, holy fuck, Eleanor Steinmuller, Kyle Dunham, fuck it's coming off. Penny Wilson, Bean Cake, Wendy Walters, Elizabeth with no last name, Lydia Fenton, Melissa Lindsay, Kerry Kelly, Julianne Rosa, Chappetti with no last name, Glenn Schnell, Scott Spate, Jordan Williams, Gage with no last name, Becca Bowen, Christine Dufour, Joey Joy, Joy Denae Portier, Sierra Spencer, Jenny Smith, Lenny, oh that's Jenny Howard, Luke Mesimer, Emily Cecil, Terry Fralick, Robert Graves, Tammy Lindsay, Lila G, Zach O'Grady, Sean Ingram, Ken Gillen, James Ott, Hainewacker, Melinda Cole, Alice C. Fred would know last name, Lisa Bell,

Mitchell Franklin, Sam would know last name, Andrew Clement, G Unit Smitty, we should've stopped at Roy Rogers. I don't know what that means. That's a quote from something, right? We should've stopped at Roy Rogers. What is that from? What is that from? That's for the cheeseburgers, right?

What is that from? Yes, we should've stopped at Roy Rogers. God damn it. That's gonna drive me crazy. Son of a bitch. You have stopped to Roy Rogers god damn it that's gonna drive me crazy son of a bitch you bastard fuck you god damn it now we certainly should have stopped it we should have stopped to Roy Rogers Emily Bethel Nicky with no last name Joelle Bernard Richard what is it? Chrissy and Pauly in the woods in fucking Sopranos I should have fucking stopped to Roy Rogers when they're eating ketchup yeah that's what it is thank you yeah boom when

they're tracing the Russian and freezing the death in the van. Yeah, he wanted to stop at Ray Rogers. He goes, no, no, we're gonna get a steak at the casino. It's gonna be beautiful. Just on the Ray Rogers now start. Joel Bernard Richard, Richard maybe, Pamela Goodman, Nicky with no last name,

Emily Bethel, I think I said that, Angie Cook, Lisa Olson, Megan Gerard, Gabe Grendy, Maximilian Bowers, Brianna Canning, Paola Garcia, The Letter S, this show brought to you by The Letter S, and Cheyenne Parrish, but also all of our patrons. Thank you so much. Thank you everybody so much for all that you do for us. Honestly, fucking people are awesome. We just appreciate the shit out of you.

So thanks for what you do for us. In a world of shit, you're amazing. Yeah, you're the shit, man. In a world of shit, you are less shit than most of the shit, by far. You're making it worth it, for sure. You've risen to the top of the shit pile, and we appreciate that. Thank you so much for all that you do for us. Keep coming back week after week.

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