Crime in Sports - #444 - Meth, Misery & Mini Me - Chyna AKA Joanie Laurer - Part 2

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

This week, we continue the tale with Joanie, starting a life after wrestling. It's a bit bumpy, to say the least. She poses more for Playboy, tries her hand in multiple less than blockbuster ...films, and some tv shows, including "The Surreal Life", where she fights with Mini Me, dances drunk & naked, and fights with X-Pac. She's also arrested for a domestic issue, and has developed a nasty meth habit!Start your new life, away from the wrestling ring, get pummeled by Joey Buttafuoco on national television, and barricade yourself in the bathroom, so you can be left alone with your meth with Joanie "Chyna" Laurer!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:03 Hello everybody and welcome back to Crime and Sports. Yay! Oh yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petragallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us today on another crazy edition of Crime and Sports,
Starting point is 00:01:21 China Part 2. I don't know if we'll finish China up here because she had quite an eventful life and I feel like we're gonna spend at least a couple minutes on the porn themselves. So it's gonna be, you never know. There's so many things that are like big things to talk about, the surreal life when she's on that
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Starting point is 00:03:48 And that said, let's get back into China as Sean Waltman did on film. So let's do this here. We will start out, when we left off last week, we'll say that she just left the WWE. Or WWF still at the time. It's crazy that she is so famous And her time there was so short so short. Yes, she was there like four years
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, but four years in wrestling. Yeah is a Magnifying glass, especially if you they put the you know The the rocket up your ass like they did with her as they call it in the wrestling business They they put the they pushed her to the fucking moon. She was one of the top stars of the company. They pushed her out there. She was popular. So, yeah, if you didn't listen last week at the end, she was offered a minimum, a deal
Starting point is 00:04:39 that had a minimum salary, they called it a downside guarantee of $400,000 and then she could make up to like a million dollars, but she refused to sign for anything less than a million guaranteed dollars. That's what she wanted a year. And they said, that's not really realistic. Sorry. She thought she was a starting linebacker. She thought she was a star or a main event player in WWE.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Back then there was the Million Dollar Club, they kind of called it, and there was a few guys in it, and they were all main eventers of WrestleMania. It was like The Under, it was The Undertaker, The Big Show, maybe Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, The Rock, guys like that made a million dollars. Unless you were headlining pay-per-views all year, you're not making that.
Starting point is 00:05:22 She thought she was that. She thought she was that. I mean, she was extremely popular yes but extremely popular and a million guaranteed dollars are different those are they're different things so December 5th 2001 there's this interview with her and It's this I guess she's being interviewed while like at a very fancy restaurant. That's how they're doing this Yeah, so this is like her her while like at a very fancy restaurant. That's how they're doing this. Oh boy. Yeah, so this is like her introduction
Starting point is 00:05:48 into the non-wrestling world kind of a deal they're trying to do here. Who interviewed her? I don't know this person's name here. It's in there somewhere, I'll find it. Is it for a TV show? It's a magazine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:00 A magazine interview here. And they say I'm lunching in Yorkville with Joni Laura who you ask well You'd know her by another name, but she can't use it her old boss owns the trademark That was a big deal was Anybody who leaves a WWE then they go the Indy circuit and they find some like weird alternate version of their name that they use You know what I mean? It's fucking strange every time somebody leaves you gotta like figure out is that guy that guy because Is Eastern Asia is that China is that China? Big Asia, that's what they call her like I think that might be China. I'm not sure I'm not fucking positive
Starting point is 00:06:39 So yeah, that's that's an interesting thing that they always have to do But now they just do it where like the indies will promote them as, so and so, formerly this guy. So they use the name anyway on the posters and shit. Yeah, you know who the fuck it is. It doesn't matter how he's introduced to the crowd, who cares? So they said, I'll give you a hint,
Starting point is 00:07:00 rhymes with China, like the country China. Oh, boy. Clever writer right away here. Interesting. If she oh the Amazon formerly known as China to heck with Vince McMahon's trademark lawyer. You could you can say it. She can't use it to promote herself. You're allowed to say she used to be China. You fucking idiot. To heck with them. I'll fight back Jesus slides into a booth at posh prego on Bloor Street West The China 2000s are housed. Oh that her boobs. She calls them the China 2000s by the way
Starting point is 00:07:33 Really are housed in yeah, she says that's what her breast implants are called China 2000s The guys as like a like a key to the article, just here's a term you'll hear that you might not know. So the China 2000s are housed in a black low-cut Playboy t-shirt. She wears a gold bunny pendant, a gift from Hugh Hefner. She's in designer jeans and Reeboks, which I don't know, I didn't even know Reeboks existed in 2001
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah, Reeboks were 80s and then pumps and then gone Yeah, and then they came back again like fucking six years ago That's it. The foam bottom the foam bottom suede ones kind of never went away, right? I don't know I have some of those like they're so rad. They're fucking comfortable, yeah. They're old school comfortable, like good house shoes. Yeah. But I have like a couple of weird colors too that I like, and I wear weird shoes.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Like blue? You got like, yeah, like the weird, like there's one that's- Did you get the maroon one? I got a maroon with like a, it's the other shit on it, blue too, they're weird. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, they're pretty cool, I found them.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Cause they had that, remember the Reebok outlet store and the anthem the anthem fucking outlet malls up there Yeah, I used to be a process server And I'd have to go up to anthem once in a while when I did I'd be like this fucking sucks I had to drive all the way out here, so I like I'm making it worth it I'm gonna stop at the fucking outlet mall and $35 they were That's exactly what they were. I was like fucking score This is great nailed it so
Starting point is 00:09:13 Designer rebook interesting. Okay a bandana tops her dirty blonde head. That's interesting. Yeah She tried to be blonde for a minute there. Oh No wrestling fans. Her hair is not really jet-black It's not dirty fucking blonde either. I guarantee it's Nor is she 200 pounds as a lot of the clippings say she's a hundred and sixty five on a five foot ten frame She turns 29 two days after Christmas. She has arms like you logs She is so young. She's yeah she was at the time definitely now she's in her 50s but she's 55 now almost an uncertain future.
Starting point is 00:09:50 McMahon's World Wrestling Federation released her in May after six years as dominatrix China six years now she didn't start 95. She wasn't wrestling in 95. Look at this she says holding up the current playboy. She's barely dressed as a war as a warrior on the cover It says Joni Loar as proud as I was of the success I had all the stereotypes I broke I don't want to live my entire life behind the character of China. My name is Joni That's what it says on there waiter Paul McNally 42 takes one look at her and suggests the pasta
Starting point is 00:10:23 McNally 42 takes one look at her and suggests the pasta What I'm not looking at women. I've waited tables. I'm not looking at a woman and go may I make a suggestion to you? Looking over your body sweetheart. I'd like to make a couple of food suggestions for you. Let's just say that I've seen your shoulders. How about a pork loin? That's so fucking weird You work out you use like pasta right can I get you a half a dozen raw eggs in a glass? What are you suggesting this later order? It's a fucking restaurant. Do you look like you're carbo loading right now? So it's a ravioli stuffed with sweet potato and sweet potato and gorgonzola cream sauce Sweet potato and gorgonzola cream sauce. What are you, what are you, Southern all the sudden?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Sweet potato. Well I saw gorgonzola and I was stealing, I stole the A from gorgonzola there and made a potato and I almost said gorgonzola because I switched them. Sweet as hell. I'm a moron is what that is. Potato and gorgonzola cream sauce. Sweet potato, I don't want sweet potatoes in my fucking ravioli. I would smack you with a ravioli and I would
Starting point is 00:11:25 smack you with a ravioli if you brought that to me. If you gave that to my grandmother she'd spit it out and go, Ma what did you do to these? Ma why? Ma why you do this? I don't know. The veal is bad. It's not- yeah this- this- is this my meat? Ma what do you put in here? Why the veal is orange? My why this tastes like the bottom of a shoe. My why. I don't understand why you do this.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I hate sweet potatoes. We've gone over this before. We've had great sweet potato debates in the fucking comments and everything else. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. They're fucking gross. The fries are shit.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They're shit. There's a reason why they're not dominating the french fry landscape, and that's because they suck. There's a reason for it. They sucked. Let's be real here. I'll eat a casserole, fuck. I'll eat that sweet potato pie.
Starting point is 00:12:17 If people wanted the sweet potato french fries, trust me, they'd find a way to grow them, find a way to supply them. There'd be a baby out there. It would be on every menu. It would be constant. Yeah, it would be, yeah, man, it'd be surprised, trust me, they'd find a way to grow them, find a way to supply them. They'd be out there. It would be on every menu. It would be constant. Yeah, it would be, oh man, it'd be bad. So she says this, quote, in its own way,
Starting point is 00:12:32 oh, they ask her, how's Hollywood, Joni? In its own way, it's as big a farce as the wrestling world, she says, sipping mineral water. They all think I'm some butch chick who kicks guys in the nuts for a living. You just finished up a five-year run of kicking guys in the nuts for literally half of the fucking work She did was kicking guys in the nuts for money
Starting point is 00:12:55 The fuck are you talking about? Yeah, that's you're gonna have to probably get that you know Tamp that down yourself. I don't know what to tell you. I'm sure Steve-O hates that people are like, what else can you still go for ass? Put that up your ass. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's your gig. That's your stick, man.
Starting point is 00:13:11 That's your gig. That's it, yeah. I think I want people. Sorry that's what bought you a house. Think I want people coming up to me after shows begging me to find their dead sister? No, but I'm reaping what I've sown here at this point That's what I get
Starting point is 00:13:30 We're talking before the show about it, that's that's so fun I know the stance and the pose and I feel terrible and I can't help you. That's the part. I About it. I don't know anything. I'm gonna have to break this woman's heart again. I'm a comedian And not that bright of a comedian even so like as far as being smart. I'm not a I'm not a I didn't go to like Harvard I'm not one of these guys who was like a molecular engineer and then so I'll give comedy a try. I'm a fucking idiot I didn't graduate from high school. I Can't find anything or anybody Yeah, if I could I'll make some jokes
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah, why don't you give it some jokes. For 25 years, James, you piece of shit. Yeah. Why don't you give it a try? Get on this shit, dude. I'm sorry. You didn't even show up to the last place she was seen, you fucking jerk. What the fuck, you've interviewed none of the main players. Do some interrogating, dickhead.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Lazy, you're lazy, that's what it is. I'm just lazy. Get your Xerox machine and start giving lie detector tests. Man. So China's realizing that Hollywood isn't easy. Yeah. Which is not. And especially, she's going to be typecast. I was going to say, your pigeon holed and typecast into what you are. Weird. Strange. Like, she's the, like it's a new thing that no one, everybody just discovered. Like there's a, there's not a lot of six foot seven, 250 pound jack guys out there playing just like a real sensitive dad. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:57 Wife's leaving him and trouble at the office. I just want to play Peter Pan. It's not happening. Like sorry. Yeah. It's not happening Like sorry. Yeah It's a it's a tough life man You're gonna wait for Xena warrior princess redo and then fucking try out for that because that's that's what you got That's what Hollywood looks at you and they you're this that's it Her voice has a slight little girl squeak. She has her big
Starting point is 00:15:25 It does have a weird lilt to it, a little squeaky kind of... I wouldn't say slight little girl squeak. I would say it has a fucking weird squeak. Yeah, she has that weird like... Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. It's uncomfortable. I don't know if that's put on to... Yeah. Don't know if that's if that's put on to You know if you know what I'm saying like put on to kind of just
Starting point is 00:15:50 Fucking temper her your her hugeness She's like how you doing everybody be like holy shit. She's like hi nice to meet you then they're like oh, okay Okay, yeah, I don't know, but it makes it more confusing, and I don't know that it's put on because I've seen her in roles where, you know what I mean, like TV shows and such. Yeah, you know, that's how she yells. Where she talks a lot. I've heard her on Howard Stern,
Starting point is 00:16:14 and when she talks, you can't fucking put that on for that long. No, I mean, yeah, unless she's been doing it since she was 12, and that's what she does. That's just what her, like, but then she'd slip once in a while, like the Theranos lady, like Elizabeth Holmes. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And then she's like, listen, I need to tell you. And then she's like, dude, let me tell you something. Like, what the fuck, huh? Where'd that come from, fella? Yeah, what's up with that? I was just speaking like this for some reason. So, she has her big dark eyes set on a super heroine role. She carries a Wonder Woman purse with the words,
Starting point is 00:16:50 beat it creep stamped on the side. I shift nervously. I think that's all she probably needs for people to beat it because she could kick the shit out of most of these guys that are gonna come up and talk to her. There's probably a couple in that wrestling fan world that will just go flirt with her. I would think. Well, flirt is one thing.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I mean, you gotta shoot your shot. But if she tells you to fuck off, you better fuck off is what I'm saying. Maybe she'll be into it, who knows. For now, she settles for guest bits on shows such as Whose Line Is It Anyway and Relic Hunter. God, why the fuck would she be on Whose Line Is It Anyway? Yeah, what is she doing in improv? Improv, first of all, no one should do that because it's fucking terrible, but I don't know why she would do it. She's not even like a comedian. Her media stroll has been on a celebrity episode
Starting point is 00:17:42 of Fear Factor, the gross out reality show That's the one where she lost to coolio, which is always a And always hurts. Hey, you know who's to coolio. That's bad And that's crazy too cuz that's that's only like nine years post his last hit. You know what I mean? It's like six years 95 was gangster's paradise. Yeah This shit was still I mean fucking big Still I don't even know if weird Al had spoofed it yet like it was still in the culture
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah with a former wrestler That's fucking sad well that was when he was doing all like I love that 80s and shit like that fucking on Vh1 he would do anything you get cool. You ought to do anything. He didn't give a shit He must have been terrible with money, right? He must have been terrible with money is great He must have been terrible with money is great With it I guess I don't know either that or he's just like I'm gonna keep making this money Yeah, that's I mean people say that about sir mix a lot, but that man's made a hundred million dollars off baby guy Oh, I don't know if I don't know if coolio had
Starting point is 00:18:57 Gangsters paradise money, but I've heard him I've heard him fucking talking about baby got back and he's like I was sick of that fucking song in two months He goes but keep playing it motherfucker. I don't even give a fuck. He goes. I'm laughing up bitches I'm paid but imagine doing that and having no idea that you're still gonna be doing that 35 years from now Do that song and you're like, oh, this is making me some money. That's good. And then be like 35 years from now I'm gonna be at a casino in Oklahoma Like 35 years from now, I'm gonna be at a casino in Oklahoma with a bunch of heavy set fucking 50 year old white ladies shaking their asses at me.
Starting point is 00:19:29 That's what's gonna happen. 35 years from now. Yeah, he's gonna be sitting in the green room in here. Oh my God, Becky, and know that that's when the show's about to start. That's me. Here we go. So I gotta start fluffing my shit up here, all right.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Somebody get my posse off Broadway. Let's do it Fuck man. All right this article they stuck her head in a glass cubicle then dumped a bucket full of worms Millipedes and scorpions her warm pink lips person disgust at the memory She survived three minutes doing yoga breathing to move to the next round. She eventually lost to rapper Coolio. That's showbiz. That's showbiz. You get millipedes dumped on your head, then you eventually lose to Coolio.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But hey, that's the game. What the fuck are we talking about? That's not showbiz. I guess that is showbiz. Yeah, I regret it when it's his turn. Yeah. That's showbiz at its realist like fucking basis level. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's how you start. That's how you get in man Joni has one has shot one film Frank McCluskey CI
Starting point is 00:20:39 Do next spring that was a big hit. Huh? Remember that one? so wait now She it's a CI stands for claims investigator by the way. Oh She plays an outlandish outlandish secretary Dolly Parton as a cami has a cameo You can come up with your own jokes. Why the China 2000s Joni? Why'd you get giant tits Joni? She laughs. Thank goodness. I had the muscle, but I didn't have the cleavage, she says.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I wanted to be more feminine. Well, that ain't going to do it. I mean, that's fine, but... Yeah, I mean, it does make you have a more womanly body, but... You have tits now, but I don't know. And I don't know, who cares? Anyway, like, whatever. That's not your... that's not your,
Starting point is 00:21:28 it's not your schtick or your deal, so. Right. You know what I mean? Your tits don't, your tits, you don't have to have a fucking insurance policy on them because if they are failed, then your career's over. That's what I mean, it's not about your tits. Yeah, you're fine there. They said, where'd you get those arms and shoulders?
Starting point is 00:21:43 And he said, my parents, she said, my parents were freaking kooky and I didn't have much identity So I spent hours in the gym and pretty soon I was known as the girl with muscles and I liked it It gave me an identity The steroids question irritates her healthy living not drugs was her ticket. She says horse shit China give me a fucking dude. I get that. She just got done with the whole thing and she's still in that world, but Now in the nowadays like obviously we know that's bullshit. Come on China. Jesus Christ. You were fucking healthy living. Are you serious? The road schedule they had yeah
Starting point is 00:22:19 And the reason why a lot of those guys we've gone over this before took steroids is the road schedule They had did not allow them to live a lifestyle that would allow you to have a big healthy muscular body Flying every day driving in the car eating Denny's at midnight go into bed working out the way none of that is You know you can't do that. How much cardio did that take Joni? Yeah. Yeah, that's it's fucking crazy. She glances at her Rolex Gino Empire her Toronto rep is touring her around town plugging the Playboy spread She is tender articulate and polite for someone who used to pile drive large men into mats She tells me she's newly single and lonely. She tells me she sat crying in her living room when the WWE WWF said goodbye
Starting point is 00:23:04 You but you didn't you could have still been there if you wanted to be. They didn't say goodbye, you said goodbye. Yeah, you said that's not enough money, which is fine. She figures she's still women's champion since she never lost the belt in the ring. Is there a comeback in Vince McMahon's script? She says quote, I know a lot of wrestling fans are expecting it, but it's not going to happen. I've moved on
Starting point is 00:23:30 Okay lunch over Joni sits at the piano at pray in prego's big front window Cello is her instrument, but she's no slouch at a keyboard her hands on those Amazon arms are small Feminine her tender the tender cords of killing me softly fill the room. What what a weird day if you go out to like a fancy business lunch and they're like there was some that China bitch was playing killing me softly on the fucking piano I don't know what's happening what's up with that shit and Joni Laura plays the Fuji it's so weird fucking there Roberta Fleck one of the two probably not yeah January 2002 playboy part two here we go yeah she is in playboy again is that right absolutely here's the cover they have her dressed like Zeema
Starting point is 00:24:21 oh they have her and I mean she has just got like over the knee high boots, thigh high boots, like a dagger and a fucking thing on the side. She's got a leather crotch thing. I don't like the dagger placement. It makes her ass look so long, poor thing. It does, it elongates her ass. Yeah, that was a bad placement of that.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Somebody's a jerk for that. Look at that. She looks great. Big giant dagger and she looks very uncomfortable I'll say yeah Took this fucking picture. I can't do this much longer It says from lady warrior from lady wrestler to warrior princess. Joni Laura is back nude Yeah, what else is on here a feverish year and sex is one of the other topics
Starting point is 00:25:03 How organized crime bankrolls terrorism. You know, in between, literally in between, Joni Lohr is back nude and a feverish year and sex is a rather serious article about how organized crime bankrolls terrorism. Holy shit. See your tits and then find out about world affairs. And also Kiss superstar Gene Simmons tells the rock and roll tales you've dreamed about. Terrific. Who's dreamed about those? And 20 questions for super sportscaster Dan Patrick as well.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Dan Patrick. Everybody needs to clamoring for the super sports questions. And then finally the one we've all been fucking just clamoring for the super sports questions and then finally the one we've all been fucking yeah just clamoring for TV goes to war playboy interviews Brit Hume that's who I want to hear I want to see I want to see China's tits and then find out what Brit Hume has to say about the fucking Iraq situation perfect thanks Holy fuck. Get the fuck out of here. What year was this, 2001? 2002. Wow, just a couple years later. January 2002. Yeah, yeah, it was right after,
Starting point is 00:26:09 yeah, right after 9-11, this all was. She also filmed a Playboy adult documentary, Joni Lohrer Nude Wrestling Superstar to Warrior Princess, which followed her on the set. They're like, we can put a video out for this shit. Hell yeah. That was when people still rented videos, So like fuck it. We could do that Japan after tooth in 2002 she ends up going to Japan
Starting point is 00:26:31 here To wrestle well not to wrestle but to be involved in it. She ends up money Yeah, her first appearance was at a new Japan 30th 30th anniversary show where she refereed about between the Steiner brothers. Not bad. And Hiroshi, Tanahashi, and oh, and Sasaki. Okay, interesting. So yeah, that's a good match there. February, 2011 here, or 2002, it's February 11th, 2002.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Some more acting, this is Relic Hunter. That's the one we- I still love her. That is a Tia Carrera series wow it's a series starring it looks like like Indiana Jones but with a hot Asian chick instead they're like what if Indiana Jones was fuckable like for guys you know we got that little Asian driver what if his older sister fucked Indy What if the chick from Wayne's world did an Indiana Jones thing? What do you think? Okay, cool So it says history professor Sidney Fox and her linguistic assistant
Starting point is 00:27:35 Nigel recover ancient artifacts from around the world while battling rival hunters. That's Indiana Jones You just described or Asian Tomb Raider something. Yeah, well, which was also Indiana Jones. It's all Indiana Jones. You just described. Or Asian Tomb Raider. Something, yeah. Well, which was also Indiana Jones. It's all Indiana Jones. Anything that, any explorer going into a fucking cave and coming out with some shit that other people want, that's Indiana God damn Jones. I'm sorry. Any, any white person going in and raping a relic of history is Indiana Jones. What if it's an Asian lady?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Is that okay? That's right. How does that okay? How does that go if you're an asian lady, and you're in egypt what's what's the what's that about does that work? Americans raping the soil again. I don't think so I don't know So yeah, she was in one episode of relic hunter where she played what the fuck. Oh, oh she paid She played Natasha tripova, so I assume a brush in that big Russian big Russian Yeah, it was probably she was T. Carrera was competing against the Russians for a relic in that one She's getting Dolph Lundgren right now. Yeah, that's that's how that goes
Starting point is 00:28:39 2002 she does a little bit of for the New Japan pro wrestling again, so she's in there I don't know if she's wrestling or just I think she's just fucking referring at this point Just making appearances because over there. Oh God yeah, just the the the spectacle of her will draw crowd over there The crick in the neck of every person watching this big giant American chick They're big on bringing big Americans over there, but a big woman like a holy shit.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I don't know how many Japanese women look like China, but not many probably. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. There's a lot of 5'10", fucking 175 pound jacked broads with fake tits over there. He was hip hop's biggest mogul, the man who redefined fame, fortune, and the music industry. The first male rapper to be honored on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Sean Diddy Cone.
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Starting point is 00:31:26 Oh, I think was tallest man and smallest man lived within like two miles of I heard that both in China. That's very interesting Perhaps they do have big women there, but they all look like Yao Ming not like yeah China I don't know how many how many I mean, there's like a billion and a half people so they probably have one or two Statistically, they've gotta have huge people. Japan, they have much less. There you go, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is in Japan.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And they're probably incredibly slender, too. Not like her, you know what I mean? That's the thing. I don't know how many big old jacks. That seems pretty either American or Eastern European, one of the two. Then 2002, she is in Frank McCluskey CI which stars Randy Quaid. It says Dave Sheridan, Randy Quaid and Dolly Parton. Poor Dolly. And it says accidents
Starting point is 00:32:17 will happen. And I'll show you the cover. It's a dip shit. I guess that's Dave Sheridan with a he's got holding a dog with a helmet and he's got a big giant rubber duck under the other arm And then he's got like a like a messenger bag with like his first aid kit on it I it's supposed to be a comedy. I will claims investigator that can't be serious And it's only 83 minutes long so I you know what I mean. It's not really It's not an epic. Let's only 83 minutes long, so I, you know what I mean? It's not really. You need to get those last seven minutes. It's not an epic, let's just say that. It's not exactly the Godfather. The description is, after his work partner is murdered,
Starting point is 00:32:53 a gung-ho insurance claims investigator teams with a new female investigator to uncover a massive homicidal fraud the company seems to be perpetrating on its biggest clients. She is not said female investigator by the way She is a secretary, so I don't know who this guy's seven minutes of trailers to complete this movie That's wow
Starting point is 00:33:15 That's all we need madman McCluskey is Randy Quaid there and Dolly Parton plays Edith McCluskey Quaid there and Dolly Parton plays Edith McCluskey Yeah, I'm completely out of his mind for the last 15 fucking years Oh, yeah, yeah, no that was that long time that's gross. Nobody wants that. No, nobody was looking for that Kevin Pollock and Tracy Morgan's in this too Bunch of people I think they play that little parts, though. And then Shaina plays Frieda.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And she actually does it as Joni Lohr in the credits. Really? That's her first time trying to do that. Next up, in May of 2002, makes an appearance on an episode of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Yeah, I mean, you've got to build an audience. It's got to be there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And the episode was it season six episode 21 Driving mr. Goodman. She plays Mary Jo Ponder This time as Joni M lore in case you confused her with the other Joni lores in the world Next up and I really think we probably Should take a look at this because we did not, we looked at it on a bonus episode, but we have not seen it for a regular episode. What is it? The Joey Buttafuko versus China celebrity boxing match.
Starting point is 00:34:39 This is so bad. This is really bad. This is a big fat guinea just beating the shit out of a woman for the whole time. I can't believe anybody thought this was okay. This is so fucked up. Well it's like everybody, I don't know, they figure she was a wrestler so she's tough and she fights, always talking about she's gonna beat up guys and then Joey Butafuco is a fucking dipshit and they were like, oh, this will be fun China'll beat up Joey buttafuku won't that be fun? And then reality set in Joey's like I've hit a woman before right? Listen, this ain't gonna fucking affect me one bit
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'll beat a woman for this don't think I won't but didn't he do celebrity boxing where he beat up like Danny Bonaduce or somebody like that? And I know about or was it the Brady Bunch guy he beat up. Oh, I might have been him. Yeah Greg I think he beat up Greg Barry Williams. He beat up the guy singing. He beat up a crooner What are we talking about? Yeah, cuz Danny bought he beat up Johnny Bravo. You can't beat up Johnny Bravo I think Danny Bonaducey fought- He beat up Johnny Bravo? You can't beat up Johnny Bravo. I think Danny Bonaducey fought Screech? Yeah, yeah. I think we went over that in our- And so that's why I think Joey did this twice, and to beat up a woman that's so fucked up, and he's like, she doesn't throw punches, come on man.
Starting point is 00:36:00 She wasn't fucked up at the time though. At the time she was considered a big badass. It doesn't make this not fucked up. But I mean this was on goddamn television, no problem. Nobody mind. This was on Fox. Fox and their eyebrow entertainment. Yeah well obviously.
Starting point is 00:36:19 This is... Oh god. Here we go. We're talking about a man we are What do we expect domestic violence We expect here, I don't know a man look at the look at the head on that man. Yeah No, he's a bit, listen. He's a big fucking guinea auto fucking body shop
Starting point is 00:36:50 guy from Long Island. You know how many fights he's been in? A few, trust me. This guy's been in some fucking fights. I don't know how many street fights Joni Laura's been in. Your insurance company won't cover the fender, so you need to pay $3,500. I don't have it. I'll take it out of you one way or another.
Starting point is 00:37:06 One way or another. I'll take it out of your ass if I have to. Is that Amy Fisher next to him? No. Stop it. Oh, okay. Here he is. Oh, that's his daughter I think. Yeah. Oh, here she comes. Here she comes everybody. Don't do this, Joni. Turn around. This happened 23 years ago. Joni turn around. Here comes Joey. He's in the ring for the second intro.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Oh is he? Yeah there's Joey, he's coming up. Look at him. Is Joey Budafuco a celebrity? Well, I mean in the lowest sense of the form of the word yeah. I would say so. I mean, people know who he is.
Starting point is 00:37:47 He's known. Look at her. She looks very... She looks like she regrets this already. Yeah, she does not look like... No. Oh, Joni. Oh, I'm gonna do this.
Starting point is 00:38:00 She looks like she just had a fight with her boyfriend, is what she looks like, and she's like kind of bummed about it. Yeah, she looks like somebody told her, please don what she looks like and she's like kind of bummed about it. She looks like somebody told her please don't do this and she was like I've already signed the contract. They're paying me. Yeah. I need the money. Vince won't give it to me.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh God. Not the boxing ring. What do you think she got paid for this? 50 grand? I don't know. It better have been 50 grand. It ain't worth it because she got the shit pump knocked out of her. I would want more She looks great She's and Joey's old too
Starting point is 00:38:33 I mean Joey's a 50 year old man or something at this point But a 50 year old man who's been in a bunch of fights is gonna beat the shit out of some Woman who's not a fighter right and it's just number one we got it's just I think Joey outweighs her by about fucking 50 60 pounds though I think it's a hundred Joey's at least 230 yeah and she's going 165 80 James he's got giant tits it's so funny that they had Michael Buffer yeah do the he's made so much money off of that. Good for him. Oh, he was getting, I want to say 25 grand a pop for those Monday
Starting point is 00:39:11 nitro intros, which was the gladiator. Why the gladiator? It doesn't make any sense. No, no. Here comes shit. Hello. Good. Joanie rocks. Okay. She's got her hands up The crowds on her side they sure are oh, you know that Italian flag of course, of course There's gonna be an Italian flag. What are you kidding me? Come on, Joey Hey, Joey kick a fucking ass Joey punch that bitch shut his front the place is making the sauce Joey he's got her he's got her by 75 fucking Jesus Christ. Holy shit
Starting point is 00:39:58 Look at this. She's hunched over She's clearly fought a little bit smart. Oh, she's dancing. This is all this is trying to Well, she knows how to pretend to fight That's the thing she's got all the movements down but then actually taking and throwing punches or another is an aggressive human being He's a big fat aggressive guinea for he's gonna kick your ass Shabbing the shit out of he's like how dare you knock over my pasta for Jules? Get back here! Get over here, you!
Starting point is 00:40:28 I swear to fucking God, I'll give you the back of my fucking head. Sweet potato doesn't go in ravioli! Jody! I'm gonna take all the sweet potato ravioli out on you, sweetheart! Let's go! Jody! Sweet potato, how dare you? How dare you ruin ravioli? How dare you ruin ravioli for me for everybody for the kids it's for the kids
Starting point is 00:40:50 Some guy telling her how to take a punch her manager go listen try to not be a lady fighting a fucking guy way bigger than her if you could try that if you could not take a guy who outweighs you by 75 pounds That'd be good stuff. I think I Mean I just slipped the punch that'd be good That'd be good for you I do give her credit that she is taking punches from a grown man right in the fucking grill and standing there And she doesn't like, she gets hit so, so easily, she doesn't even have an opportunity to ball up another fist, her hands just go everywhere.
Starting point is 00:41:32 No. Boom, boom, boom, and her hands are, they aren't even up. She got a shot in on him and he was like, I will, bitch I'll kick your fucking ass out there. She just flew down, what the hell just happened there? Holy, did he just suplex her? Threw her by her head? Arm drag, oh, he just popped her a couple times. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Oh, this is terrible. You know, she's on the floor. Oh, he just tossed her. By her head? That was like an arm drag from under her arm. She's like, can he do that? Joey, look at him. Come on, let's go.
Starting point is 00:42:05 What do you think you're doing, huh? Oh, God. What are you going to tell on me, huh? What are you going to do? Oh, God. This is so sad. You're going to tell everybody I had sex with you? Is that what you're going to do right now?
Starting point is 00:42:14 I hope this... You're going to shoot my wife in the fucking head, huh? I hope she got 400 grand for this. I hope so, too. What are you going to... You're going to beat my wife up now, huh? Let's go. This is for you Mary Jo. I love Mary Jo. Oh god damn it she turned her back. Because he fucking, no he
Starting point is 00:42:34 spun her. He hit her and fucking spun her around. She hit him in the face and he was like oh motherfucker really? She keeps turning her back to him and walking. Yeah oh she's her headgear is twisted because he's fucking not punching her in the She keeps turning her back to him and walking him. Yeah. Oh, she doesn't like that. Her head gear's twisted because he's fucking not punching her in the face. This is wild. Oh, God. Okay. She's almost out of the ring.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah, he's throwing her around. Well that was like a punch push in the face. That was like a mush. He just mushed her to the canvas is what he just did so get over here she almost flew out of the ring get over here come in what are you doing hey oh he's just uppercutting the fuck whenever she hits him he just punches her 30 times he's like you fucking bitch and he comes back he held her by the back of the head. Yeah, her down hit her so hard She came off the fucking canvas. That was awesome. Oh
Starting point is 00:43:29 God, it's hammer punches Jesus Christ, this is insanity So anyway Joey wins the fight but she She took quite an ass-kicking on that one and that was not I don't know why we're letting that happen on TV I can't believe that yeah that should never be legal even wrestling slowed down on like the intergender beatings you know what I mean and they were like hey let's have a guy and they generally let her get in some really good licks and almost win if she does
Starting point is 00:44:02 lose yeah yeah this is that was every time beating. It was like he was it seemed like this is what it looked like to me. He's like kind of taking it easy. And then she would punch him and he go, Oh, well, fuck it. You want to fucking fight that any fucking hit her a bunch of times so much were it's been around. She's like, Oh, my God. Jesus Christ, Joey. He spun her around and she took two steps forward.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Like look like she's running away She didn't know where she was I think I think her fucking gear got turned. I can't do that to women man Oh, no, that's really fucked up. So June 3rd 2002 I guess she's in an episode of tracker Don't tracker TV show here tracker Tracker ran for two, oh it only had two episodes. No, it had 22 episodes, cause she's in season one, episode 22. So there you go. She plays Ree. And she is credited as Joni Lohr. Then, this is unexpected.
Starting point is 00:45:00 She's in a movie called Brown Sugar. Which is definitely a black romantic comedy. Look at the cover. Taye Diggs and this chick. It's like a fall day on a city street with leaves falling and she's hugging him from behind and he's smiling and shit. This is Friends Since Childhood, a magazine editor that a Hold her leg up. That's what that is. Okay. Yeah, this is friends since childhood a Magazine editor and a hip-hop record executive stumble into romantic territory could the most stereotypical romantic comedy
Starting point is 00:45:35 there's according to romantic comedies half the populations of magazine editor, that's Hey, I swear to God there's at least a hundred million magazine editors in this country Unbelievable here and yeah in this Taye digs who else we got here Yeah, Queen Latifah's in it. There you go Wendell Pierce. We got bunk. Oh We got some bunk in this motherfucker. She plays Uncredited woman at party. Oh, no, so basically an extra Scale, yeah. Or a cameo where they're like oh shit there's celebrities here or some shit like that I don't know. 2002 she's in a TV movie Hunter back in force. Oh it's back. Do you remember the 80s TV show Hunter? No.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Okay. Who's that? I only know this because my dad and stepmother used to watch it is a fucking it was Fred Dreier He used to play for the Rams Okay, an NFL player and he played it was a cop show. It was like he was like a detective It was on like Saturday nights at like 10 o'clock. It was one of those shows It was like a you know fucking like a hard-boiled detective show. I don't know You know, he'd always shoot people. And now she's in this, the reboot of it. It's from the 80s, I mean it's on from like 82 to 88
Starting point is 00:46:51 or some shit and then this is Hunter back in force. It's just a TV movie and the description is simply Hunter and McCall are back. For what I remember it wasn't terrible as far as those movies go, or those TV shows. I don't know about this movie, but the TV show wasn't terrible as far as those those movies go are those TV shows I don't know about this movie, but the TV show wasn't that terrible. She plays Brandy Rose For whatever that's worth for anybody out there Then she ends up doing a
Starting point is 00:47:18 Real weird thing here. She goes to the Universal Fighting Arts Organization, okay She goes to the Universal Fighting Arts Organization, which I believe is not a legitimate sporting. It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like some form of, you know, worked something, you know, sports entertainment or whatever. She defeated woman boxer Chika Nakamura for the Universal Fighting Arts Organization Championship. Oh no, not for a championship, just in the organization. Shika Nakamura for the Universal Fighting Arts Organization Championship. Oh, no, not for a championship, just in the organization. She beat her by a first round TKO.
Starting point is 00:47:50 OK, so she's very good against women. Yeah. So I've had my bell rung by Joey Butafuko, let me tell you something. I can take a punch. And she wrestled, I guess, several matches for the promotion here. She lost. Holy shit. Masahiro Chono, she fought. OK, that's not a woman
Starting point is 00:48:05 that's a that's a dude that's definitely a dude and a very well-known dude Masahiro Chono on October 14 2002 as she lost to him and then performed her final match on October 26 teaming with a fake great Muda that sucks just some guy with his face painted spitting green shit they had a couple of there's been a few fake mood is going around out there. Yeah, absolutely and she lost in a tag team match to the same guy Suzuki and Tanahashi that she reffed the Steiner brothers match to and They said despite working with the biggest names like Chono and Tanahashi Couldn't break out really as a player for NJPW for New Japan.
Starting point is 00:48:46 They really couldn't really get the... They weren't interested. They wanted her for a couple of times to draw a crowd, and then they were done with her. That's it. She's a spectacle at this point. So 2003 here, this is when she starts her relationship with Sean Waltman. And if you don't know Sean Waltman. Okay. And if you don't know Sean Waltman, he's ex-Pac or six Pac or one, two, three kid or lightning kid or whatever the fuck. He's a pretty famous one.
Starting point is 00:49:12 A lot of different. He's been around forever, forever. I mean, since he started when he looked like he was 12. Yeah. He looked like when he was in global in like 90, I remember seeing it on ESPN or 91, he looked like I was like, this is someone's child wrestling what the fuck are they doing he would they would announce him at like 130 pounds or some shit it was crazy he was so tiny. And then he had those leather pants and the long black hair and ended up later on he went
Starting point is 00:49:37 like Dave Navarro scumbag that was like his look I'm gonna cultivate more of a Dave Navarro look here. Looks like the fucking, the syphilis is jumping off me. That's better. So they were engaged for a period in 2003. Then they broke up, then got engaged again and then rinse and repeat for the next few years basically. And they're, they're that that's a bad cocktail
Starting point is 00:50:05 okay because this is two people that are Sean Waltman the funny guy actually and a pretty smart guy I've seen a lot of interviews with him he's not a dummy he's done a lot of drugs I'm talking like yeah I mean the way he looks today I just saw him recently like so many drugs. He looks crazy now it's why like I've heard him tell stories about when they were wrestling and they were going to Europe and he would have like a fucking thing of like, you know liquid crazy like Some kind of weird pain killer that comes in pill for me to have just a liquid Guys like what the fuck are you doing dude wrestlers are going that's too much, bro
Starting point is 00:50:50 That's too much. So and then No, it kind of looks like small What's that guy's name? He's not much older than us either. He's not really pretty young. Yeah, 52 Yes, I mean, he's not that much. He's not like he's like Hulk Hogan or something, 70 years old or some shit. He's not that much older than us. He looks like small Bautista. That's what he looks like.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Tiny Bautista. Yeah. No, not at all. So this relationship, when you get those two together, when you get two people and she isn't known for her mental stability or her whatever so this is tough so march of 2003 here is what happened here um okay uh i'll read this article as she snorted the crystal meth so this starts out we just took a big drop off from i'm in the hunter
Starting point is 00:51:42 movie too as i'm snorting crystal meth as she snorted the crystal meth Joni Lohrer could hear the pounding on the door but she wouldn't let her sister inside. Earlier that afternoon in March 2003 Kathy Hamilton had arrived unannounced at Lohrer's condo in Marina Del Rey California and pleaded with her sister to seek help for her addiction. Lohrer screamed and cursed at Hamilton for hours before barricading herself in the bathroom to get high. This is going great, guys.
Starting point is 00:52:12 This is bad stuff. I mean, this is in less than two years. Meth. Meth, from the, that's crazy. Like to this point too to of just Hollywood has completely Broke her brain broken her brain That her sister said I didn't recognize the person I saw that day I was like the devil had invaded Jody Joni's body
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah, later that evening with the help of interventionist have with the help of an interventionist Hamilton convinced Laura to check into the Chateau Recovery Center in Utah. A private plane flew the sisters to Salt Lake City and they arrived at the facility around midnight. Five minutes later, as staff members attempted to greet her in the lobby, Laura went on a profanity-laced tirade and stormed out. She wasn't high anymore by then,
Starting point is 00:53:05 and she was like, okay, going to get high now. She screamed, quote, you know what, let's, no, well, there's not enough of this to do. I was gonna do it in their own words, but there's not enough. She screamed, I don't know why the fuck I'm here. I'm not doing this. She flew home the next morning
Starting point is 00:53:21 and never spoke to her sister again. Yeah. That was it. Fuck her sister. She's done with her. For years though, she sent threatening messages via voicemail, postcard, and fax. Imagine getting a threatening postcard. It's like a picture of a waterfall on the front and you turn it over.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Bitch, I will choke the fuck out of you when I see you. Like, wow. What a different fucking vibe. This is Christmas from you know holy shit and faxes. There's a fax coming in. What's that? Oh it's just my sister wants to kill me. Okay that's all. The messages are I can't believe you deserted me. You're gonna pay for this. I'm going to come get you. Threatening her. So says, I lived in fear of my sister for a long time.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I was literally scared she was going to show up at my front door with a knife or a gun, or herself, either one. So there's a problem with all this, obviously. That's not good here. March 29th, 2003, this is from the Vancouver Sun, and it says the China Syndrome is the headline. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Her China, like with a Y. And it says, you may have thought teenage boys were the only ones imbibing the stylized violence of professional wrestling, but no. Now this is a, written by Rosemary Pool. And she says, when I was a scrawny 10-year-old on Saturday mornings when the kitchen still smelled like bacon and coffee, I'd
Starting point is 00:54:51 be one of the five kids between the ages of 2 and 12 sprawled out on the family room carpet watching Hulk Hogan on our vintage 1980s wood paneled floor model television. Back then, I didn't appreciate the finer points of wrestling. I just knew that the good points of wrestling. I just knew that the good team always came out on top and that my sisters and I wanted to be the lovely Miss Elizabeth. We loved how macho man Randy Savage held the ring ropes open
Starting point is 00:55:14 for her to shimmy elegantly under. They saw her like post 88 then. His pre 88 he used to yell at her to get the ring ropes for him and point when he was a heel that was the best He let she do it he'd be like open a more and she'd like do it more and it was obviously a struggle and everybody Would boo him what a great fucking heel move The other guy would seat down to yeah, get over here the other guy would run over he'd pull her in front of him I was like that's fucking hilarious. That's good shit Human shield and making her open shit. Yeah. Great heel, man.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And as soon as he was a baby. Makes her open the peanut butter and the pickle jars. So all he had to do was turn baby face was to open the ropes for her and everybody went bat shit crazy. It was funny as fuck. What a guy! What, I don't know, he finally did it.
Starting point is 00:55:59 That's fucking amazing. So she goes on to say how she watched it with her family. That's what she's talking about. It was the only show that we watched with our dad and like, you know, we'd body slam each other and give each other wrestler nicknames and all that kind of shit. Basically goes on this, this author goes on to say she's a lapsed fan, went to college. And then by the time the nineties came around, it was when it was so ubiquitous and it was everywhere. She started seeing it again here. She said it was so ubiquitous. It was everywhere. She started seeing it again here. She said it was hard to avoid.
Starting point is 00:56:27 She said, of course, many of the celebrated wrestlers from my youth were no longer around. In some early efforts to see where they'd gone, I was no longer curious. Many like Brutus the Barber Beefcake, Greg the Hammer Valentine, and Coco Beware were back in the bargain basement amateur wrestling circuit. Andre the Giant had died from the rare growth hormone condition that had made him famous Jake the snake Roberts had become a suicidal crack addict and deadbeat dad Listen to the Jake the snake Roberts episode to find out all about that. What a fantastic eulogy
Starting point is 00:57:02 That's synthesizing it right down to the essentials right there. Yeah, just really whittling it off. I didn't even want to know what happened to the others. My childhood heroes were looking frayed around the edges. I preferred and still prefer a two-dimensional hero with one finishing move. When I started watching again at 19, the clearly demarcated world of good and evil I remembered from Saturday morning's past had vanished. With the end of the Cold War had become a more complex lineup of wrestlers oscillating between good and evil. The evil tag team known as the Bolsheviks was no longer needed.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Hulk Hogan had traded in his prayers and vitamins for a black bandana and a gang of thugs known as the New World Order. And Elizabeth wasn't the ideal woman anymore. She looked tired and worse, she traded in her sequined dresses for tight jeans and t-shirts. She looked tired. The worst thing you can say about somebody. She looked 40 is what she looked. She was 40.
Starting point is 00:57:58 That's all it was. What do you want from people? A new kind of female character had emerged during my absence and her name was China. China trained and wrestled alongside the men and was the first and only woman in the then WWF to earn the Intercontinental belt. Funny thing though about that particular pop culture symbol of the strong female Avenger, nowadays you can't call her China anymore. Joni Laura lost all ownership of China the women's the wrestling character She played for six years and in 2001 shortly after losing her own macho man after leaving the WWF
Starting point is 00:58:37 Joni Laura has spent She spent a year having doors slammed in her face because she couldn't say who she was Yeah, she can't use her name. That's what people know her as This is a quote from her here. No one wanted Joni They made me very aware that I was not allowed to use it in any way This is Joni talking wrestling was this odd phenomenon where people live their characters every day You never know what quite what is real. To me, that's inappropriate. I knew where China ended and Joni began.
Starting point is 00:59:10 UFO lands in Suffolk and that's official, said the News of the World. But what really happened across two nights in December 1980 when US servicemen saw mysterious lights in the forest near RAF Woodbridge and claimed to have had a close encounter with an actual craft. Encounters, a new podcast available exclusively on Wondery+, takes a deep dive into one of the most famous and still unresolved UFO encounters to ever take place in the UK. Featuring shocking testimony from first-hand witnesses, hosts, journalist, podcaster and UFO researcher Andy McGillan, that's me, and producer Elle Scott take us back to the nights in question and examine all of the
Starting point is 00:59:51 evidence and conflicting theories about what was encountered in the middle of a snowy Suffolk forest 40 years ago. Are we alone? Encounters is a podcast which is going to find out. Listen to Encounters exclusively in ad-free on Wondry+. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or in Apple podcasts. Harvard is the oldest and richest university in America. But when a social media-fueled fight over Harvard and its new president broke out last fall, that was no protection.
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Starting point is 01:00:41 Being an actual royal is never about finding your happy ending, but the worst part is, if they step out of line or fall in love with the wrong person, it changes the course of history. I'm Arisha Skidmore Williams. And I'm Brooke Zephrin. We've been telling the stories of the rich and famous on the hit, wonder-y show, Even
Starting point is 01:00:59 the Rich, and talking about the latest celebrity news on Rich and Daily. We're going all over the world on our new show, Even the Royals. We'll be diving headfirst into the lives of the world's kings, queens, and all the wannabes in their orbit throughout history. Think succession meets the crown meets real life. We're going to pull back the gilded curtain and show how royal status might be bright and shiny, but it comes at the expense of, well, everything else. Like your freedom, your privacy, and sometimes even your head.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Follow Even The Royals on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Even The Royals early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. Her comments were subtly directed at Paul Levesque, better known as Triple H. In addition to losing her wrestling name in the spring of 2001, Laura also lost her partner of five years to a storyline that became a reality. Triple H got romantically involved with the boss's daughter. Joni says, My contract came up and the offer made was a very low amount due to the fact
Starting point is 01:02:02 that there were personal issues involved. My boyfriend had an affair with a real storyline. It was a sad way to end what could have been, to my mind, a phenomenal change in the WWE's definition of gender roles. When Joni Lawyer joined the WWF, she played an anonymous crazed fan of the now-defunct Generation X and interfered in matches to position them for a championship. By the time WWE owner Vince McMahon was convinced she had superstar potential, she earned the name China, narrowly escaped being called Tiva Guive.
Starting point is 01:02:35 What? When you hear, we could do an episode on just what wrestlers were almost called and how bad that is. They were gonna call her Tiva Guive? Tiva Guive. G-W-E-E-V-E. Oh my god. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:56 There's a long history of this, like Vince McMahon giving people choices of lists of names and they're fucking terrible and hilarious. Horrific. Tigress was another one. Venus or She-Ra which is the He-Man's cousin which doesn't work. You can't be She-Ra. Just put an extra E in it and make it rather than she dash rods She-Ra. That last one being eerily similar similar to another childhood hero of my generation. Exactly, it's He-Man's cousin. Laura says she had no role models when she started touring with WWE and takes credit for literally showing newer female characters like Tern, Lita and Trish the ropes.
Starting point is 01:03:35 She also claims partial responsibility for bringing in female fans. It was a combination of factors. There was a really good group of incredible talent back then but obviously I take some credit It led to a lot of women watching. I don't know about that You know in her recent book if they only knew she reveals that when she entered the WWE she met resistance Ridicule and sexual harassment from her male counterparts the worst part She says was facing male wrestlers who wouldn't treat her as an equal. Aside from the personal issues behind her departure, Laura says the WWE wanted to push her back into female wrestling, which she couldn't accept. She said, I'd taken
Starting point is 01:04:17 a lot of crap and I was not about to go backwards. I was not being allowed to fight the guys. The WWF management were trying to push me into the women's groups Although I'm on all four women. I couldn't go backwards That's because by the early 2000s though There was a lot of pushback in wrestling with men fighting fucking women in the ring that became an issue Yeah, like politically it became an issue sure yeah, so it wasn't we want to push down Joni lore It was we have congressmen calling saying why the fuck are you having domestic violence happening in the ring? Why are you literally why? Obviously stronger men beat up women that's fucked up that that's literally why cuz like
Starting point is 01:04:59 WCW in like 1998 or nine Tbs told them no more intergender violence. You can't have that anymore. That's crazy. You're having, you just, there was an episode and they're like, you had a guy hit a woman with a chair. You can't do that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Think about that for two seconds. Yeah. If that happened at Thanksgiving in any fucking house around this country. An episode of Cops is Born. A very good, a good one. Where you're going, oh, this is a good one. This born a very good one where you go oh this is a good one this is a good one her face is split open there's mashed
Starting point is 01:05:29 potatoes all over the place and they go in there boy somebody threw the turkey it's destroyed so someone tried to close her wound with stuffing this shit was took hours to make. This day is ruined. This day is over. This dinner is over. That's awesome. By backwards, Laura meant subjecting herself to gravy bowl matches, pillow fight antics, and bikini challenges that the ever increasingly sexualized female performers, I can't bring my,
Starting point is 01:06:02 yeah, I can't bring myself to call them wrestlers have to endure. Laura. Now that's what they did. They made it more. They made it like they made it from having no women and just then having China beaten up guys. Then having it be like this weird like playboy video thing where they would have pillow fights and like who can rip each other's bikini off first or shit like that Yeah, and then now then they went later on to like gravy all over the place Lore now featured are now a featured wrestler with New Japan wrestling not really Says she's embarrassed to tell her new fans that she was ever involved with it.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Oh, come on. She said, it's just not a good product. I don't think we'll ever see a time when women's wrestling is that popular or that great. It's you. You do not predict the future well because it's gigantic and has been for the last like seven years. Yeah. And the women in WWF are more popular than the men like yeah, it's it's great there
Starting point is 01:07:06 They do a lot of and they're they're good athletes and shit. They have there. It's totally different now She said I don't think you're ever gonna have an intercontinental champion again She says referring to the fact that she won it They said this woman the author goes on to say I remember the match well Jared's character had taken a hard misogynistic turn his latest gimmick was basically hitting women and telling China to run and hide like every other woman should and would and should do She won the title from him in a good housekeeping match that involved vacuum cleaners and pots and pans among other household items Oh my god. Yeah, that's what they did. That's Not misogynistic at all.
Starting point is 01:07:47 No, no, no, no. Beat her with her housewares. You don't want a vacuum? All right. I'll show you what to do with it. How come my shirt's so wrinkled? I'm going to pummel you with the fucking iron. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:08:02 While Laura says she's on better terms with Triple H now and has recently become engaged to former WWE wrestler X-Pac, she still expresses some bitterness that her contribution to the business and to bringing in female fans has been so easily forgotten, and she harshly criticizes the WWE's decision to revisit its old program of separating male and female performers. Okay, I'd always hoped it would progress the other way, she says. I'm happy more women are involved, but I'm unhappy the women don't have the respect for the business the way I do. Jesus Christ, she doesn't know what she's talking about.
Starting point is 01:08:38 A heroic stance, the author says, yet I came away from our conversation vaguely disappointed by Laura's half-baked critique of the admittedly sexist fantasy world she'd inhabited. She might have said she'd left the WWE because she couldn't reconcile years of training and personal sacrifice to become a ball gown wearing mamacita, that was what Eddie Guerrero called her, who accompanied second-tier wrestler Eddie Guerrero. That's not right. Oh, that's fucked up. To his matches. That's fucked
Starting point is 01:09:05 up. Instead, she he was a fucking top guy. He's great for Christ's sake, man. Instead, she admitted that the Mamacita storyline was one of the highlights of her WWE career. What about the two time possession of the Intercontinental belt? But with her ordeal with the WWE and Triple H now behind her, Laura says she's moved on. She seems confident in her new role in Japan and does guest appearances on shows like Celebrity Fear Factor and Hollywood Squares. China says, quote, I'm very proud of China, but it's also important to me for people
Starting point is 01:09:38 to know I have the ability to move on. It's almost a desperation for me that people know that. It is desperation because you're almost yeah and this is after she was dragged out of her house to a fucking rehab for doing meth and shit. So she's wow. The author goes on to say I was embarrassed to ask Lawler when exactly it was that she'd finally left the WWE. She's been so quietly phased out that I couldn't even remember when she'd finally finished, even though I'd followed Shina with interest. The problem was the character never met a dramatic end. She wasn't seriously injured in some dramatic pay-per-view fallout or cage match.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Shina and all of her potential had simply slunk away in shame. That had to hurt worse than any injury sustained from an I quit match where opponents resort to anything as long as it takes until the other one surrenders. When I finally called up the guys from my old university wrestling club, none of them remembered and none of them knew what to make of China either. They liked what she stood for in the grand scheme of things, but couldn't figure out where she fit in the netherworld of sports entertainment when women are pretty surgically enhanced blondes who only wrestle each other.
Starting point is 01:10:55 When the writers tried to turn China into one of them, it didn't take. It couldn't have, but she never was accepted as one of the boys either. Her signature move, after all all was a low blow. Yeah, she has been kicking guys in the nuts. The Wonder Woman experiment clearly hadn't worked for any of us. A warning to any cultural studies egghead wanting to put my kind under your microscope. It's pretty much impossible to get female fans of pro wrestling, especially the new converts to articulate some profound reason for their viewing preferences.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Here is a 16 year old from London that says quote, some people take it way too seriously. They're just entertainers. It's got the best parts of a soap opera, but the plot moves faster. Every week there's a new fight, a new storyline. It fascinates me how they come up with this stuff. It's just a bunch of eggheads sitting in a room with a bunch of ugly guys talking to each other. That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 01:11:54 It used to be a bunch of former wrestlers and now it's a bunch of fucking nerds. That's it. That's all it is. Now it's a bunch of failed TV writers and nerds. That's who they are. But the storyline's still the same today because Rhea just fought Liv the other night. It's all the same. And she beat her, and then her boyfriend,
Starting point is 01:12:10 Ray Mysterio, his grandson, tried to switch sides. Extra Junior. Ray Mysterio Junior, Junior, Junior. This guy now switches sides from Liv to Rhea, and Rhea kicked him in the nuts. Of course, that's all it is.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Same thing. That's how it works. She kicked him hard as fuck too. Another woman says, I thought wrestling was made especially for women. Sweaty half naked men running around, sleazy soap opera plot lines, fashion tips. What more could a woman want in a TV show? She thinks that's for women, huh? She thinks that's for women.
Starting point is 01:12:49 2003, I don't know what this is. It is called Romp, and it's an action short. Oh, it's a 15 minute action movie. You can see, here's a screenshot of her obviously fighting a woman. Look at her with her, she obviously looks pissed. And there's a woman here, or that's a guy, that's a screenshot of her obviously fighting a woman. Look at her with her. She obviously looks pissed. And there's a woman here. That's a guy, that's a guy. She's beating up a guy.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I don't know. Directed by Adam Paulina. Who else is in this? Nobody, terrific. Chewy Bravo is in this, literally. That's the guy. Chewy Bravo. Next up, she's in Alien Tracker. Oh, so Tracker, but uh, Aliens.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Aliens. Now, well, we've moved on. We got bigger problems now. You're tracking things on Earth. Now we got fucking Aliens. Let's get out of here. All right, Alien. Alien Tracker went from a TV show to now a straight to video movie.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Oh boy. Yeah. went from a TV show to now a straight to video movie. Oh boy. Yeah, it's PG-13, an hour 43, at least they get that 90 minutes. In a galaxy far away, alien criminals organize a spectacular prison break. Alien criminals. Alien criminals. Because they got so much of a society
Starting point is 01:14:00 that they lock up the ones that are bad. Bad aliens. Pursued by their home planet's authorities their leader Zin decides There's one place to go through a wormhole that allows instantaneous travel to where? earth obviously Cole is Cole is the alien tracker who's in hot pursuit of one of the escaped convicts when a government group investigating extraterrestrials captures blah blah blah blah who gives a shit.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Okay. This is wild. This is fucking wild. Anyway, well, she plays. Let's find out. She plays Rhee. An alien would be good. I'm trying to find anyone I've heard of in here.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I don't know who these people. Adrian is the star I think that's her character I think tracker recurring shit yes she's in today let's bring her back okay 2004 this is this is when this is when China culturally because she was in wrestling big big big then basically for the last two and a half to three years nobody fucking heard of her nobody saw any of that shit she did you might have seen oh she's on Hollywood squares for two seconds but that's not like she's not in the culture then in 2004 her and there, her and Sean Waltman released a sex tape. Wow.
Starting point is 01:15:27 And that is fucking huge. Just for the spectacle of it. Yeah. It's just like, what is going on here? This is crazy. Yeah. It's wild too because he barely, barely gets in her vagina. It's crazy. It's so much ass sex. It's her vagina. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:45 It's so much ass sex. It's fucking- It's a lot of ass. It's a lot of anal. It's a lot of ass sex. It's a lot of anal and she has some- Bad blowies. She has some interesting physical characteristics,
Starting point is 01:15:58 let's just say, about her. It's not as bad as you think, but yeah. Oh no, there's one part that is about as weird as I've ever seen it. Not to be... Listen, you're like, yeah, you've been taking too many hormones, lady. That is not working out right there. The tip top of it certainly hangs out a little. It is. There's guys jealous of her. Out there somewhere. I'm telling you, it's weird. It certainly has some length.
Starting point is 01:16:31 It's fucking weird. Waltman jerks it off like a dick. It's fucking weird, dude. I'm sorry, it's just a lot. Maybe that's why he's in her ass so much. Maybe. Man, he is just a lot. Maybe that's why he's in her ass so much. Maybe. Man, he is just in her ass the whole time. It's like a pine cone dangling down.
Starting point is 01:16:49 It's fucking. It's certainly, it's not near as bad as I expected, to be honest. No, no, no, no, no. I expected way worse. I mean, we're obviously, this is, you know, we're the most intimate parts of someone's body we could all get picked on for a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Oh my god, this is way darker than you'd think. We don't choose to film it and put it out to people. That's the difference. Right, I'm not showing a soul. I want the lights out for Christ's sake. Yeah, if this was like a leaked thing, then I'd feel bad. They made this and said, watch this and tell us what you think. So I'm telling you what I think.
Starting point is 01:17:22 She flushed somebody and showed him everything, but also had somebody else in the room with a camera to show more people. More people. She's showing everybody. So the company that this was the company that released Paris Hilton's tape too, which was the worst sex tape of all time. Oh, that fucking green light.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Who the fuck wants to watch that? The weird like fucking night vision Yeah, we're going into get Osama bin Laden say hey, yeah, see this bitch. We're doing a night raid. What are we doing here? It's so great. Thank you also no well. She just didn't seen that into it. She was that's She fucks with the enthusiasm you'd expect her to fuck with honestly Same enthusiasm she made onion rings at sonic on just gonna say The the whatever that show was with her in the color a simple life simple. Yeah, that's the level of That's the level of ump she put into this so so it's like oh all right
Starting point is 01:18:24 She fucks with the level of enthusiasm of a girl that just goes, you should be so excited to be here. Yeah, yeah. You should just be happy with me. So they released this under the title One Night in China with an I, because can't use the other China. Vince owns that shit.
Starting point is 01:18:41 So One Night in China, and apparently there's more people in this. I didn't know. There's other scenes? The fucking cast is eight, 12 people, no, fucking 16 people long, which I don't. So it's a video, and it has like opening bouts. It has open, you're gonna be the opener.
Starting point is 01:19:04 You don't wanna host that show. There's gonna be an undercard of One Night in China, Jesus. Here is the, this is from the adult. Whatever fucking film directory. The adult R&DV? Kinda, yeah, yeah. It is IAFD, this one here. And One Night in China has Brett Rockman or Brett Rockman in it
Starting point is 01:19:26 Who by the just a look of his picture? He's obviously a porn star Yeah, it's like from the chest up and he's like horrible looking face with like short bleach blonde hair, but like clearly like jacked pecs and fucking lats obviously a porn guy China who does, oh, anal and bald is under her. So she does anal and has a bald pussy, they're telling you. That's not bald either. No, Dylan Day is in this.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Ellen Saint, who, by the way, she does anal DP, oh, anal double penetration, swallow, ass to mouth, and cream pie. So she takes multiple loads, yeah, that's good for her. Eric Everhard, which is the great porn name. It is, yeah. It makes you sound like a porn superhero. Doesn't it, like you have like a warrior's outfit
Starting point is 01:20:22 with your dick rock hard sticking out of the front of it like a hole cut out. He's as famous as it gets. Eric Everhart, he should be with that name. He came up with the best fucking name, he should be. Franco Roccaforte, who's not as Italian looking as you'd expect him to be. Is that the guy they just call Rocco? Definitely black.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Beats the fuck out of me. I have no, Roccafort me. I have no rock a forte. I have no idea Jasmine burn who does anal facial swallow and ass to mouth It only says under the women what they're doing He does all this for What is great it just says Jay and let me show you the picture of him. All the others are like headshots. Like look at Eric Everhard. That's like an IMDB pick.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Look at this guy. It's him looking down at a chick blowing him. Jay with no last name. You know, he looks like an open-lifer from Phoenix that you know who I'm talking about. He does. I know exactly who you're talking about. And I thought the same thing.
Starting point is 01:21:22 That's how he looks like. He's too deep of a guy. Looking down, getting a blow job. Manuel Ferreira, Mike John, opposed to John Mike, he's a totally different guy. Robert Rosenberg, because there's not enough Jewish people represented in the porn business. In the porn, not enough of it out there.
Starting point is 01:21:43 So far the ladies are vastly outnumbered, but luckily one girl takes several. She takes several, that's why. The saints, she'll take all of them. We got three more ladies here, Sammy Rhodes, who just, it just says facial under her, so apparently she just comes in for the ending there. Sandra DiMarco, who does anal, facial,
Starting point is 01:22:04 ass to mouth also, and then Steve Holmes who looks like your kid's guidance counselor. Pete's son. Jesus Christ. Look at that guy. That guy's fucking people on camera. That's unfortunate. He looks like just your neighbor dad guy.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Hey Steve, how you doing? Ellen Saint is far too hot to be taking dick from that guy. No shit, Tiffany Hopkins also, anal facial, ass to mouth as well. And then X-Pac is of course one of the other performers. The women are vastly outnumbered in this. It is, let's see, we got one, two, three, four, wait, there's one, two, three one two three four five six women and eight
Starting point is 01:22:47 men so that's why you see that's Saint she's a Saint she'll do plenty the synopsis you've seen her in the wrestling ring now you can see her rumbling in some hot sizzling action that makes it sounds like she farts as you fuck her don't say she's rumbling one night god one night in China stars Joni Lohr and Sean Waltman or as they were known in their former careers China doll and ex-pac of the world wrestling entertainment's bevy of beefed up wrestling superstars. China was a badass bitch in the ring and looked quite
Starting point is 01:23:19 fetching in that female steroid bodybuilder appeal that strikes a chord with wimpy men. This movie is a must see for wrestling and porn fans. That's the best. They say nice things about somebody at the same time as calling them a badass bitch. A badass bitch. It sold over 100,000 copies. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:43 They made some dough off it, man. They did terrific. They did great and I guess they both split the profits. They earned a share of the profits both of them. If that was part of the deal. $20 about about for a porn film. I think it was more back for that one. I think they were charging 40 bucks or some crazy shit. This is before high speed. This is right on cusp of high-speed internet when because I mean Two years later would have been worthless. Yeah two years later immediate down You know anybody can stream it watch it, but this was still in the dial-up You know end of the dial-up days, so people couldn't stream it so yeah, you had to pay for
Starting point is 01:24:20 2005 She debuts on the surreal life 2005 She debuts on the surreal life Post this on the host that that's that's why she's on this she wouldn't have been on this except for that She needed that other people on that show the brat obviously Jane Weedlin from Not banana Rama the other one the fucking go-go's the go-go's the band the go-go's yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Adrian Curry who I didn't even know who the fuck she was at the time
Starting point is 01:24:53 Oh, right. She was the one who was on it was in love with the Brady Bunch guy And then they did another reality show but that wasn't she like extra or some shit like that I wasn't sure maybe she was on MTV Maybe she was on the real world or something. I Find I think she was on the real world. I think I think she was like an MTV celebrity I don't think she was an actress. Yeah. Yeah, I think one of those things so TV personality, there you go. That's the shit she did or she was on one of those model last top next top model Or one of those shows. That's what she did. She was on that one of those model, last top, next top model or one of those shows.
Starting point is 01:25:25 That's what she did. She was on that shit with Tyra Banks. Oh yeah, she was doing Life and Style, Us Weekly. She was in all kinds of. That's what she did. Yeah, she did that shit. Having tits and an ass. Yeah, she's for model shit. Okay, Christopher Knight, who was Peter Brady,
Starting point is 01:25:37 and she fell in love with him, and that was a whole big deal. My fair Brady, that was her. Yep, Marcus Schenkenberg, who I don't remember who the fuck that was. Who is that? I think he did, I know the name. Schenkenberg? Wasn't he a dick for something? Is that the guy, I don't know, is that the guy who tried to sell the, sell like insulin for expensive? Is that the guy? He's a, he's a manager, he's a model manager. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Great. He doesn't matter. And of course, Vern Troyer. You gotta have him on there. Yes, and he was amazing. Oh, he was fine on the show. Yeah, he was the most together of anybody on this fucking show.
Starting point is 01:26:17 When he got fucked up, it was so great because it took very little booze to ruin that guy. Oh yeah, yeah, and he was a mess. He was so funny. Christopher Knight, Peter Brady was actually the most together because he was a guy who has been dealing with this for so long. He was Peter fucking Brady, which is iconic
Starting point is 01:26:34 and everyone still knows him as that. Then he did a bunch of shit sitcoms and then he basically sat around not being famous for 25 years. Doing drugs. Like being famous, but not being famous. I don't even think he was a drug guy. I think he was just a guy who was like,
Starting point is 01:26:46 well, you know, hey, shucksie. Wasn't this the real life about them being fucked up? No, no, no, it was just about celebrity. It was putting a bunch of old celebrities together. That's celebrity rehab, which she was also on. So don't worry about it. Okay, we'll get that. That's coming up, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:00 So this is the one on this show. She drank all the time, would take her clothes, So this is the one on this Show she Drank all the time. Yeah was would take her clothes number her I remember very clearly a shot of her holding a fucking bottle of something Well, but naked and like standing on a bed like yelling or some shit She was fucking out of control in the pool or in the jacuzzi in the pool in In the pool, in the pool. Totally with the bottle all drunk going, she's going to drown. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be real hard to get her out of that water. And the worst and even creepier, remember when Sean Waltman came over and they got in
Starting point is 01:27:37 that huge crazy fucking argument? No. Scared the shit out of everybody? Oh my God. He came over, they got in a crazy fucking argument. These are two big, fucking rough people. So everyone in the house was like, oh my God, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Vern's hiding under the coffee table. Mm-hmm. Vern's going, not in front of the kids, please. Vern crawls under the couch. Jesus Christ, man. That was wild, I remember that. That was wild. I didn't know if that was real or what. January 18th, 2005 is when they say,
Starting point is 01:28:11 Marcus Schenkenberg and China are dating. Okay. So, here's an article that says, We already know that the surreal life, four, that was number four. Wow. Wow. they really had Who the fuck else was on I just remember the one with Webster. Yeah
Starting point is 01:28:34 Webster was on like one of the first ones it was like oh shit Webster and they were running out of people So they were like, how about Marcus? Schenkenberg will put him on there. Yeah, they got the Tall blonde chick. They were running out of people. I gotta find out right now, because, sorry everybody, I don't even care. I'm not sorry, fuck off.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Who do you want, the first season? I got you right now. That's what you're looking for. Yeah, I'm gonna look at the, I wanna look at the cast here. Corey Feldman was in there with Emanuel Lewis. They were friends, that's right. That was a big deal, yeah, we had Feldman.
Starting point is 01:29:03 MC Hammer. Jerry Minthe. MC Hammer, Vince Neil, Vince Neil was like not around very often or something he was all weird he never showed up. Season two Tracy Bingham, who the fuck was that? Oh that's right that's right she was a model actress yeah Trishelle Cantella she was from a reality she was from the poker MTV she's a real world girl Erica Strada that's right another guy who was used to not he was fine and again a guy who it had been 20 years so he was fine they was just a rate figured out who he was by that. Tammy Faye, oh God, from Jen Baker's ex-wife. Ron Jeremy.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yep. And of course, Vanilla Ice, obviously. And Todd Bridges. Oh wow, was it? Oh yeah, that's right. Wait, oh. Vanilla Ice hoists Gary Coleman above the deep fryer and insists on having former child star
Starting point is 01:30:02 to say his catchphrase, Todd Bridges shows up. Okay. Yeah, no, they were just that was Season 3 had charro flavor flavor Jordan night. I was getting to him last Brigitte Nielsen Ryan star and fucking Dave Cool. Yeah That was season 3 might be the best one Cool yay Season three might be the best one Maybe to like make fun of them. You know what I mean? That is yeah, cuz I could make fun of Dave Coolie until the end of time I know he's sick, and I don't give a fuck fuck that guy Don't care bad guy. Don't give a shit
Starting point is 01:30:44 Fuck him the most survivable cancer anyway who cares Don't care. Bad guy. Don't give a shit. Um, fuck him. It's the most survivable cancer anyway. Who cares? Don't care if he's got fucking aggressive fucking lymphoma. Don't give a shit. Don't care. If he dies tomorrow, lives to a hundred, couldn't fucking care less. He'll be a douche above or below ground. Don't care. Oh god, Jose can say go carry heart carry heart oh my god the dirt bike guy
Starting point is 01:31:11 Bronson pincho this might be the last time he was in the public and show yep fuck you no no he's got a show yet I think for like years he had a home renovation show oh I love it he's got it might still be going on or it might have ended but he had a home renovation show for Oh, I love it. He's got, it might still be going on, or it might have ended, but he had a home renovation show for a long fucking time where he was like renovating his own house. Oh, I love it. Whoa, what a genius way to fucking get paid.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Yeah, and get your, and your own shit. And make the fucking drywall right off? Yeah, that sounds great. That's perfect. I'd like, for some reason I was gonna give him Balkey's accent. I'd like for some reason I was gonna give him Balki's Accent I would like to build this house, but I don't have the money at the very moment He's the best as surge anyway, that's the best. Oh, I love him as surge. Yeah, Beverly Hills got
Starting point is 01:32:01 wine spritzer. Serge Serge with the back here. Serge. I love that. Why why I make white wine spritzer is very nice. It's very nice. You try it. OK, so we go on to say here
Starting point is 01:32:26 we season four or so really for spawned romance between Adrian Curry and Chris Knight. Now there's a report, a second Serial Life romance has resulted from the series, Marcus Schenkenberg and Joni Lohrer were seen locking lips at Scores West in the wee hours of Saturday morning. Scores the strip club? Yeah, page six, so that's daily news. Yeah, fucking
Starting point is 01:32:45 strip club. There are scores. Fucking kissing, making out. Unbelievable. Oh my God. With fucking while they checked their fucking coats with mob guys because that's what they ran the coat check and shit there. Perhaps there's a great book on scores that Michael Blutrick, he's a guy who started it. Yeah. He's one of the owners that started it. He wrote an incredible book about that fucking place. It's fucking hilarious. This guy's funny as shit. Really informative, really funny guy. And then he ended up flipping and testifying
Starting point is 01:33:17 against the mob for fucking pushing in. The book is fucking crazy, dude. It's like an insane movie. I wonder if that's why Scores kind of went by the wayside and now Rick is like a big deal because of that? Yeah. They found out it was all mobbed up. The owners ended up him, the other owner,
Starting point is 01:33:33 they all ended up going to prison. Everybody got in trouble. They had to sell the place. It was a fucking mess. Yeah, it was mobbed up like crazy. Howard Stern used to do shows there. He talks incessantly about that, talks tons about Howard Stern, how they got him in there
Starting point is 01:33:46 How what he used to do what they? What Howard Stern's parties were like there? Oh, all right shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, talk some fun shit Yeah, there's a lot of stuff by Leonardo DiCaprio saved his life really Yeah He didn't have time to put his wire on one night because he saw Leonardo DiCaprio wanted to talk to him So he talked to him for 20 minutes and then the other guy, the mob guy he was supposed to talk to showed up and it was too late to put the wire on. And the mob guy's bodyguard ended up patting him down that night. So he was like, I was fucking dead. He goes,
Starting point is 01:34:16 this guy would have fucking killed me on the spot. He goes, I was a dead motherfucker and said Leonardo said I am so lovely and art of DiCaprio forever so loves that like grimy side of and that he's a scumbag yeah he loves yeah he likes he loves the grimy side of fame that he gets to do all this stupid childish shit the man's in his 50s He gets to fuck 19 year olds and he thinks that's fun. This article goes, come back. The article goes on to say, perhaps more disturbing was when China's nudity. First, quote, China got buck naked and jumped into the fish tank at Coral Room as Schenkenberg filmed her with a video phone, the post says.
Starting point is 01:35:09 In scores? It's score, you can't get naked at scores. And jump into a fish tank or in the wild? That's crazy, that's file care celebrity, that's crazy. What the fuck, who does she think she is? Oh my god, they said too by the way at scores they've had that some couple was in there fucking one night Mm-hmm, and they were like what the fuck are you doing? You can't do that here
Starting point is 01:35:30 Good the girl was doing a day like doing a strip and heat the Goner didn't realize it wasn't an employee And then they were like fucking he's like what the fuck and they're like, you don't even work here. What the fuck is happening? You guys are gonna man It was some like dorky couple from like New Jersey that was like it's just our anniversary And this is my fantasy and my wife decided he's like what are you doing? You're gonna I'm gonna lose millions of dollars cuz he Called for Jade to be on the You know Demi Moore actually did a night stripping their one night
Starting point is 01:36:03 To do striptease strip teeth. showgirls or whatever it was. To do strip tease. Strip tease, yeah. No one knew it was her. Really? No, she felt like a witch. How the fuck do you not know? She had a wig, different makeup. I don't care, I've seen her body. You can't.
Starting point is 01:36:12 No one's looking at her face. No? Who's looking at a stripper's face at Scores? I look at all of them. Not at Scores, you don't. Maybe not. Well, I've never been there, so I don't know what it looks like, but.
Starting point is 01:36:23 It's a sleazy shithole. It's gross. I don't know what it looks like but. It's a sleazy shithole. It's gross. I don't know. They're all gross. I don't know if they're all gross. Back in the day it was a sports bar with tits. That's what they tried to make it as. So that's why it's called Scores.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Aiming at that crowd? Double entendre. When it first opened it had a fucking basketball court in there you could go play on. Really? Yeah, it had like golden tee and like basketball courts. And then they said, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, we're selling tits.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Why are we selling tits and their drunk guys are getting hurt playing one on one and they're like, they're not buying drinks or tipping, buying fucking private dances if they're doing that. We got sued because some 40 year old guy twisted his ankle in a pickup gang. This is ridiculous. What are we doing? So yeah, that's what happened the post said that later at score She started stripping the manager of the place let her in the spirit of good fun
Starting point is 01:37:19 She was topless, but after she went bottomless. They told her she had to stop. Yeah Hopless, but after she went bottomless they told her she had to stop. Yeah We got a license lady. You got a liquor We have a liquor license and you have a fucking six inch clit. We can't have this in the same fucking room I'm sorry I honored it dirty, but this is ridiculous Honored it dirty, but this is ridiculous Sorry everybody we're having one of these fucking delusion we had a good time before the show we were dying laughing We're just having a good time today, so hopefully Fuck yeah
Starting point is 01:38:01 Oh boy. Oh, I love it. The Danville Register and B, January 23rd, 2005, Joni Laura, aka China, and her on-again-off-again boyfriend Sean X-Pac Waltman, who for the past couple years have managed to stay in the public eye not because of their accomplishments of professional wrestling, but because of their constant fighting. In the latest episode, Waltman recently revealed on an internet message board that Lawrer, who now goes by the name China Doll, was arrested on New Year's Day for domestic battery. Yes, Lawrer struck Waltman in the face several times during a confrontation that happened
Starting point is 01:38:43 in front of Waltman's two young children according to the post. Since the two announced their engagement in November 2002, their relationship has been on a steady downward spiral that has included violence. In 2003, Lohrer took out a restraining order against Waltman after claiming he choked, beat and pulled her hair. Waltman has denied the charges. Both Waltman and Lohrer, who were once at the top of their wrestling game as members with Triple H and Shawn Michaels of D-Generation X, have had their personal struggles since
Starting point is 01:39:24 leaving WWE. While Waltman is working to get his life back together after spending time in drug rehab, Laura has experimented with a number of ventures, most of which have proven to be more embarrassing than anything else. Yeah. Sure. This is the thing. By the time she was naked on the surreal life, it was over.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yeah. Any chance she had... You can't. You gotta have an air of mystery when you... You can't just show it all. Well it's not even that. It's also... I mean it's that too, but it's also just once you're that, you are...
Starting point is 01:40:00 Not only to the people watching, holy shit, you're a disaster in a mess They might want to see more of you But what fucking what person is going to invest money in a project with that person in that's the problem Nobody's buying that product that no you buy you buy the the product of somebody that's professional once you once you're down to Your vagina is and everything is well-known. It's it's over It's over. It's over Once you're holding a bottle fighting with your boyfriend naked on on television You're not no one's gonna say let's make a movie and it based it all around her Let's invest money and time over this. Yeah insurance company won't cover this project
Starting point is 01:40:43 Yeah, you're making a bad mistake here. They said aside from a couple of successful spreads in Playboy, the former wrestling star has made a couple of demeaning appearances on the Howard Stern show, as we talked about, got pummeled in a celebrity boxing match, Joey Bonafuca, I can't stop laughing at that, and worked with bugs on an episode of Fear Factor. In her latest foray, the former ninth wonder of the world is currently appearing in the new season of VH1's the Surreal Life reality series which a handful of washed up celebrities spend ten days together
Starting point is 01:41:16 in a mansion. If you haven't seen it, don't bother. I completely disagree with that by the way. It's fun. Give it a run. It's pretty fucking fun. It really is. Really is. So now this is from September 15th, 2016 from a Bleacher Report article about now. So it's about this time. We're going to put it in now. It says the last time Sean Waltman saw Joni Loar alive was in the emergency room at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. It was January 2005, more than three years after her final match with WWE and Waltman feared his girlfriend was suicidal just as she had been a few weeks earlier when he discovered
Starting point is 01:42:03 that she checked into a hotel under an alias and attempted to drink and drug herself to death. Holy shit man, that is depressing. Somewhere in between, Laura has been spotted performing a fully nude strip tease at Scores for her reality TV castmate on VH1's The Surreal Life and jumping naked into a fish tank at the Coral Room all in the same night. She got naked at two different establishments. She put clothes on and took them back off again.
Starting point is 01:42:35 By that point, Laura's drug problem was hardly a secret. According to friends, she began hanging out at the Playboy Mansion after making her second appearance in the magazine in 2002. Socializing with models and entertainers she met there, Laura became a regular on the LA nightlife scene and began experimenting with alcohol and drugs she'd always avoided in the WWE where she was known as a teetotaler. Yeah, because she was like, I can't drink that because it'll show up in my abs. Well there's that and I'm also with this guy who doesn't do any of that. It's a tee totally. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:07 And Triple H was all about I eat fucking four steaks a day and I work out twice and then you know that's it. When Waltman entered her life the partying intensified. Already battling his own addictions after a recent divorce, Waltman, known to wrestling fans as X-Pac, admits he was not in a good state when he began dating Laura. Quote, I didn't do her any favors. I was so fucked up I couldn't even take care of myself. I had no business trying to help someone else.
Starting point is 01:43:33 One thing that he is too, very honest about fucking up. Seen a bunch of interviews with him in the last 10 years and he's like, oh Jesus, I fucked that all up. He'll tell you what he fucked up and what he didn't fuck up He's not one of these guys who's like listen. I let it you know blah blah blah. He's not full of shit Anyway, he puts his bullshit on the table and was his biggest payday probably the porn too Maybe he made good money in wrestling in the late 90s because he got signed with WCW didn't make a ton there But then when he went back to WWE he got really lucky going back to WWF he got fired by Bischoff for having a neck
Starting point is 01:44:10 injury and got fired by Bischoff Kevin Nash and Scott Hall got real pissed off because that was their friend and he just fired him so Vince did a smart move here this was when a ton of guys were going from WWF to WCW Because they you know, they were giving more money and all this shit He signed Waltman and made a big deal out of it and because he was gonna make a big deal out of it He gave him more money than he should have so everybody was like, oh look Vince is a player too Yeah, so he got the benefit of Vince trying to show off There so he made good money at that point, but I mean the porn. I don't know maybe that was the best one shot payday
Starting point is 01:44:49 That's gonna say for a black of a better term So they said week after week Laura and Waltman met up with friends for binges that almost always involved crystal meth Waltman injected the drug. Oh he was shooting God Laura either snorted the powder or chugged it with a glass of water, which I didn't know that was an option You can fucking does it fix plop plop fizz fizz. Oh What tight handcuffs this is oh shit? Fascinating choice of how to get it in you. I never heard of that before. The meth gave Laura and Waltman enough energy to stay awake for two or three days straight.
Starting point is 01:45:30 That's what meth does. They'd sleep for 24 hours and do it all over again. Tanya Moore, a former bodybuilding champion, said she used meth with Laura and Waltman multiple times in 2003 and 2004. She said, quote, when you get caught up in that stuff, it feels like you're in a time warp. Life doesn't move forward very much. You sit around and come up with all these ideas but never follow through with any of
Starting point is 01:45:53 them. They're either on meth or sleeping so yeah. Yeah, you're a dreamer at that point. Totally. They said when she left WWE, she wanted to be in get modeling gigs and get TV and acting career. But the deeper she plunged into her drug addiction the more she no showed casting calls. That's the other thing if you have an agent and a manager whoever the fuck is booking you and getting you these fucking auditions and
Starting point is 01:46:15 You're not showing up for them. The business is done the business more than anything. They hate flakiness Yeah, you can be a mess But if you show up all the time and are in a condition to perform, nobody cares. And your performance is impeccable. If you're a mess and you show up and deliver, you can go get fucked up as long as you want. We don't give a fuck. And I know this because we know this because we're in fucking comedy.
Starting point is 01:46:41 So in comedy, I have seen it where guys are a disaster They could be fucking some chick in the green room bathroom They're drinking half a bottle of vodka snorting lines They don't give a fuck standing on the toilet seat pissing into the toilet don't don't care Can you go on stage for an hour and a half and make those people buy drinks terrific make them forget their own? Don't care. Yep, that's it Terrific. Make them forget they're overpaying? They don't care. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Yup, that's it. So that's her deal. They said Moore, that's the bodybuilder lady, began to worry about her friend in 2003 when Laura called her to say she was throwing away all of her possessions. That's not good when people start doing that. That's usually a suicide thing. Moore sped to Laura's apartment in Marina Del Rey and found her cramming years worth of wrestling outfits, magazines, DVDs, even her WWE world title belt into $500 Toomey suitcases. Laura said she later planned to leave them on the curb for strangers.
Starting point is 01:47:38 I was going to leave them outside. Toomeys? I was going to say, fuck all the other shit too. Those are good suitcases fuck with those I we rock those those are good. If you travel a lot that's a good suitcase man. That's a damn nice suitcase. That's a fine one we both have those and we like them I'm not leaving it on the curb for anybody it's expensive. I paid too much for this thing and it's got a crack in it and I have tape on it, and I'm not stopping until a wheel falls off
Starting point is 01:48:08 I got the fucking metal one you can shoot that thing with a fucking bazooka. It's great. I love that fuck I throw it on shit that thing is awesome using a duffel bag with wheels until my fucking neck and back killing me Yeah, and I remember that like fucking best Like what do you a hobo? What the fuck are you doing? I think I spent $400 on this goddamn thing. It's the best suitcase ever. Yeah, they're expensive, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:30 They're great. Yeah, that's the thing, and you'll have it for a long fucking time. So she's stuffing all that. Her friend wouldn't allow her to do it. I told her to keep them for until she was ready to take them back. I'd keep them for her until she's ready to take them back. So instead of, some people do that with their friends' guns.
Starting point is 01:48:47 She's like, let me take your suitcases and wrestling stuff. I'll take that, because you're gonna throw that out. I'll hold this. 12 years later, the items are still in Moore's closet. Oh my God. With autograph signings as her main income, that's the thing that saved a lot of these wrestlers is these cons that came.
Starting point is 01:49:04 And I don't mean fucking Scams, I mean the conventions these conventions have saved a lot of these guys fucking lives. They really have I mean They they became I don't know if they're still as big as they were a few years ago Yeah, like kind of pre-covid that 2010 to 2020 that fucking convention scene was cooking. I mean, man. And it's not even just conventions, it's also like just appearance gig,
Starting point is 01:49:30 you know what I mean? Yeah. Just anything that- They also book these guys at Comic-Con and shit like that too, in addition to wrestling events. They book them at those type of things too. I saw the hockey talk man at Comic-Con. Yeah, because the Comic-Con guy
Starting point is 01:49:40 is the same guy that watches WWF. It's the same dude. It's a similar crowd. Yeah similar deal So it's it's people that are into shit basically very into shit. So that's what they're talking about Laura complained to friends that she was running out of money and joked about applying for a job at Burlington Coat Factory Don't do that. Don't do that. Go to Dollar Tree. It's better than that. Jesus Christ Go to Dollar Tree, it's better than that. Jesus Christ. Go to Ross, Jesus. She and Waltman got engaged and filmed a sex tape.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Waltman said he made $250,000 from One Night in China and estimates Laura received significantly more, but the teasing and shame that followed drove Laura deeper and deeper into depression. Waltman said Laura physically assaulted him twice, breaking his nose the first time before punching him repeatedly in the presence of his children in January 2005 when she was arrested for domestic assault. Waltman said what people need to remember is that she was mentally ill. Drugs definitely didn't help the problem, but she was just using those to self-medicate from the pain that comes from being messed up in the head from childhood trauma and other stuff that
Starting point is 01:50:48 happened in her life. He said that I saw some crazy shit. The shade of her eyes would switch colors. The features in her face would change. She could go from being mean and scary to looking like a little child in her face and her eyes. She had two personalities. If you watch the surreal life, you watched it.
Starting point is 01:51:05 You saw it happen before your fucking eyes. She would go from someone that everyone in the house was terrified of, literally like, ah, with a bottle, and then she would be like, her whole face would be different. Like a little girl, two minutes later. A lot of people are like that. Just the booze or just
Starting point is 01:51:25 whatever substance can do that to them. Makes their whole face contort into something else. Yeah, well for her too I think she it was extra. The booze was just probably mental shit too. Had to be exacerbating all that because even he's saying like this all you know it magnified it but she's sick to begin with is the problem. That's the issue. Her friends were in love with the other China, the one who adored chihuahuas and played the cello
Starting point is 01:51:51 and sang songs for Moulin Rouge on her karaoke machine. They talk about this, that must have been, imagine China singing, first of all. That's hilarious right there. I would pay to watch that, nevermind the porn. That's hilarious. I'd pay five pay to watch that never mind the porn. That's hilarious I'd pay five bucks for me and you to sit here and watch that crack up laughing. That'd be funny Yeah, I would totally do that play piano. That's amazing. Yeah, she's got musical talent, but she can't fucking sing
Starting point is 01:52:16 I guarantee doesn't have a voice. No No, they talk about the month of September 2001 when Laura packed a suitcase full of playboys and traveled to New York popping into fire stations along Alone to sign autographs and take pictures with ground zero first responders. I'll take those guys some tit picks. What do we say here donate? That's nice. She's doing is like Thank you for helping with the 9-eleven. Here's the masturbation material for later Thank yous going around with a 9-eleven here's a masturbation material for later I mean, that's nice. I guess I suppose it's a nice gesture a bunch of firemen were probably like yeah, right
Starting point is 01:52:57 Free playboy sure why not who cares? They they tell stories about the China who when she didn't have enough money for a tip gave her her black mink coat to a mover She hired off Craigslist Wow people wanted to be easy that seems not thousands of dollars Jacket that's nuts for a tip for a Craigslist mover. You could have just given him 10% or something You've people want him a lamp something right People wanted to be her friend because she was a star, because she was China, says Christian
Starting point is 01:53:27 Moraldi, an actor and former roommate. But she was so much more than that. It was impossible to meet her and not fall in love with her. So he says it was also impossible, Moraldi says, not to ache for Laura during those moments of clarity when she grasped all that she had lost. Moraldi was in the car with Laura one day when they passed a Los Angeles billboard featuring Dwayne The Rock Johnson, who had turned a successful stint into the WWE into a blockbuster movie career.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Laura and Johnson had appeared together on the cover of Newsweek in February 2000. Moraldi says it'd be difficult to go from the cover of Playboy and ringing the bell at the New York Stock Exchange and seeing your likeness on a building in Times Square to being unemployed, to not have a sense of where you're going or what you're doing next. She was struggling to remain relevant. By this point, she was just, remember, wasn't she a wrestler or something at one point? That's how people remembered her It's sad
Starting point is 01:54:28 January of 29th 2005 here. The article is called china over the edge Yeah, they said even back in 2001 anyone who read china's autobiography could tell something wasn't right his autobiography could tell something wasn't right. The book was an incoherent mess of self-deprecation, psychotic rants, and swear-laden stories. Rather than celebrating her rags-to-riches fairy tale, Laura and her ghostwriter spent the entire 318 pages spewing venom at her detractors and often her allies. The only thing readers could be sure of was Laura was very bitter and very unstable, but no matter how close to the edge Laura may have seemed in her WWE days, no one could possibly have envisioned how far she would fall.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Last week, Shawn Waltman made a desperate plea to the producers of The Surreal Life saying, quote, this is a crucial time for you and anyone else who has profited from doing business with her to step up and help save this woman's life. Waltman wrote on his website, she is on the losing end of a life or death battle with drugs, alcohol and severe mental illness. They're like, we got another show for it. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Jesus Christ. Waltman revealed Laura had checked herself into a hotel and attempted to drug herself to death. He pleaded with the producers to get help. And yeah, they said, wow, fast forward to 2004. Talk about the end of her Playboy and some successes. Playboy wasn't interested anymore. Her music career bombed before it even got started.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Even a quote accidentally released sex tape, which it wasn't accidentally, just said that, but they, it was 100% on purpose. A la Paris Hilton failed to revive public interest in her career. So that must really piss her off. Paris Hilton did that, helped her career a lot. Kim Kardashian, we know who she is. We know who she is. This one, nothing.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Nothing. A meth. A meth. So Laura did what any D-list celebrity would do when strapped for cash. She signed up for a reality show. The Surreal Life of VH1 series, in which we know what it is here, she was constantly drunk and chain smoking, often parading around the house with her breasts hanging out. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Unfortunately, it wasn't just an act for the cameras as the downward spiral would continue when she returned to the real world. Earlier this month, Laura was arrested for allegedly beating Waltman in front of his young children and others. A day later, a New York Post writer observed one of her drunken nights on the town, leading to a page six report of Laura stripping naked and jumping into a fish tank of a New York City nightclub. But the problems really became public last week with an appearance on the Howard Stern
Starting point is 01:57:20 show. This is a bad time to go on Howard Stern. Yeah this is his time. When you're a Stern. Yeah, this is your fucking mess. And this is you gotta have your A game. Yeah, this is his time when he was like extra vicious too because oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was peak Howard. It was peak of everybody doing that. He had already on the show at the time who was a longshoreman and he was fucking drug
Starting point is 01:57:41 addict himself. It was a mess. Really crazy to say Laura was wasted wouldn't even begin to describe her condition. Yeah, yeah, yeah fucking drug addict himself. It was a mess really crazy To say Laura was wasted wouldn't even begin to describe her condition. Yeah, she was slurring her words Contradicting herself and launched into random tangents that were impossible to follow She denied assaulting Waltman, but proudly boasted that she slapped him around. That's good She said she didn't want to do drugs anymore but professed she would gladly do a line of cocaine if it were in front of her.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Excellent. Wednesday, Waltman posted another message on his website, again directed at the Surreal Life producers. Your kindness and compassion have turned Joanie's experience from a sad one to one of happiness and hope, he wrote. It appears Laura has finally been offered help she desperately needs. March 13, 2005. Ex-Pac arrived at the house holding a distinctly funeral bouquet.
Starting point is 01:58:44 China, who looked less than pleased to see him apparently has poor judgment in choosing men and clothes, but that's beside the point I love you. You don't fucking realize that though said Xbox to China and his greasy hair gleaming in the moonlight I'm a hell of a fucking man when it comes to treating a woman, right? What a catch they say when China broke down after the confrontation her housemates rallied to bring her back from the brink after hiding her prescriptions for fear she'd do something drastic. Jesus Christ that is fucking wild. When Xbox called later that night Debrat shot him down as only she can. Good night to you and we don't ever want to speak to you again.
Starting point is 01:59:25 You stay out of here. Yeah, get out of this house. Oh my God, an article on the Hamilton Spectator from April 20th, 2005 called Get a Surreal Life, surreal in parentheses here, and they're talking all about it, about China. Yeah, this is funny. There's like a, they're talking a little script here.
Starting point is 01:59:47 A perversely fascinating sojourn into pop culture depravity. Mini me, the lovable R in Austin Powers' scamp, known in real life as Verne Troyer, was calling his manager to complain that someone had stolen his bedroom. Elena, I'm pissed the pint- sized crybaby bleated into the phone. I don't have my own fucking room, somebody else took it. Who took it? demanded his outraged manager with motherly concern. Mini me looks mortified.
Starting point is 02:00:14 China doll. She's gonna throw me across the house if I say anything. Giant woman. China doll, the ditzy former WWE star whose real name is Joni Laura had been first to arrive at the garish mansion that will soon list a soon house seven C listers better to make that D list celebrities for weeks of interloser bonding and quickly laid claim to her to the only private quarters. He's going to have to learn to show a bigger person to learn to be a bigger
Starting point is 02:00:46 person than a little person, she said, drowning him out down a martini. That despite the fact that everything in the room had been downsized to accommodate him, they made a room for him so he could fucking manage. They're just breaking everything. She's just fucking like, this is awesome, I'm Godzilla. They said the bed, the coat rack, the bar, everything adjusted. He's two foot eight. He needs shit to be fixed. Yeah, she's sitting down and breaking the bed.
Starting point is 02:01:19 How is she going to fit her fat ass in your bed demands Mini Mee's apologetic agent as her tiny charge appears on the verge of tears. Vern, tell her to get the fuck out. Things reach a climax when Troyer threatens to walk off the show unless his Amazonian nemesis vacates at once, which prompts Peter Brady, known in real life as Christopher Knight, to step in and mediate. If you ever thought you'd see Mini- me fighting an Amazon woman with Peter Brady being the
Starting point is 02:01:49 voice of reason, I never thought I'd see it, but there it is. That's why this is a real life was fun. It was great. It was great just for that. Somebody has to be the, has to be excused the expression, the bigger man, he tells the dueling block heads, forcing them to negotiate a truce that results in, after much debate, China Doll getting the fuck out and Mini-Me literally kissing her rear end. Wow.
Starting point is 02:02:16 She's described in this article, Laura 35, constantly hammered sex pot dubbed the breast woman of the WWF likes to show off her implants in tiny bikini tops will practically While practicing practicing flying leaps and choke holds the only cast member who failed to recognize a drawing of them of herself on the mansion wall She Who's that? That is her lack of self-awareness is incredible. It's impressively incredible here. Okay, so we're gonna do, here's an interview, we'll probably wrap up on this interview,
Starting point is 02:02:51 because it's an interview with her here, talking about everything from April 21st, 2006. Then we'll close it out, because she's had a much more legal problems coming up, and some interesting shit here. Some of the shit she accuses Waltman of is wild. Okay so the interviewer is Steve Gerwick Gerwick I don't know they said what projects are you currently involved in
Starting point is 02:03:16 well I am putting together a very nice cardboard box behind the fucking Walmart that's gonna be good for me for the future. I'm assembling my shanty town about. Yeah. She said I'm working on several big projects at this time that I'm very passionate about. Bullshit. I've just finished production for a VH1 series, Fame Games, which was done in Vegas and was a lot of fun for me because I got to do a lot of physical stunts and I love working out and being physical. I'm also one of the leading ladies in a comedy film Illegal Aliens. What? Oh boy. I wonder if that ever got made. We'll find out. Last month I was a hugely successful, I was at a hugely successful screening for the movie and I'm told it got picked up for theater release. Did it now. I believe a movie called Romantic Wrestling Comedy which I
Starting point is 02:04:10 co-starred in is also coming out soon. In addition I plan on doing many promotional appearances and autograph signings very soon. I have many great projects on the table. So the question is talk about working with Anna Nicole Smith. Mm-hmm. Anna is a great friend she says. She was a true professional and a very funny lady. Despite what you read about her in magazine she is not crazy. She is very intelligent and very talented. Really? Yeah this is the fucking pot calling the kettle fucking sane. That's what this is. This is interesting. Very talented.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Is that right? Very. They said, what do you take away from your experience doing this in real life? She said, I took away some great friendships and beautiful experiences. These people really became my family and helped me through some very tough times in my life and helped me realize that I had to get my life together and I couldn't thank them enough for that. They said, do you keep in contact with Sean Waltman? She says, I do not.
Starting point is 02:05:11 I have not spoken with Sean since last January. I have nothing negative to say about him. I have said everything I had to say. Our relationship was the worst thing I had ever been through. I hope Sean is able to find happiness in his life. Are you benefiting financially from the release of your video with Waltman? She said no. Well, he made 250 and said she made more.
Starting point is 02:05:33 So you're not making anything. You did make something and you pissed it away. I think it's gone. She said I did the video with Sean for our enjoyment, but when he let it get out into the hands of an outside party, I decided to release it before the other party did, but Sean went and did a deal with the red light district behind my back and I was not given any money for the video. Okay, that's not what I heard at all. Now that I look back on it, I would have never even made the video, but it all happened at
Starting point is 02:06:00 a time in my life when my life was spinning out of control and I lost sight of who I was. Right. It all happened at a time in my life when my life was spinning out of control and I lost sight of who I was. They said there are rumors that you went into rehab after your appearance on the Howard Stern Show. True or false? False. And she said, Really? Yes.
Starting point is 02:06:16 I did not go to rehab. I actually went to a place that specializes in helping people who have battles with depression. After about a week, I decided to stop drinking and these people were able to help me deal with the drinking problem. That sounds like rehab. Definitely rehab, yeah. Just a different form of it. Then I got great professional representatives who deal with people that have addictions so they have been able to help me stay on the right path and I owe a lot to them. They say what's your reaction to the finished DVD 101 reasons not to be a pro wrestler.
Starting point is 02:06:51 I remember that was a big thing on YouTube for a while there. She said I actually had not seen it until recently. I thought it was very well done and I'm very glad I did get I did it to get my views on wrestling out there. They said what do you miss from being in the wrestling business? The instant gratification from 20,000 fans. There's nothing like the reaction of thousands of screaming fans.
Starting point is 02:07:12 It's a complete adrenaline rush. He said, have you ever had any contact with Vince McMahon in recent times? Any chance you'll return to the WWE? Any chance? Any chance? He said,
Starting point is 02:07:23 never say never. I am an actress, a model and a wrestler. At this time, I have a lot going for me. Any chance? Any chance? He said, never say never. I am an actress, a model and a wrestler. At this time I have a lot going for me. Do you? Okay. Lots of practice. And do not wish to return. I went through too much to return at this point, but I am forever indebted to the WWE
Starting point is 02:07:38 for their help in making me a star. You mean making you a star. I had many good memories with them and the good will always outshine the bad ones They said what did your why did your relationship with WWE? And she said I was up for contract renewals and after I found out Triple H had cheated on me and confronted him about it Then I put in I then I was put in the women's division had to take a pay cut Don't know if that's true either They said the contract which they
Starting point is 02:08:05 presented me did not let me do other things and I would have gone backwards in my career and I didn't want to do that to myself or my fans who had watched me for many years. By the way, all of the contracts say you can't do other shit unless they approve of it. Right. That's the idea. She acted like that was a new thing. Like they put this contract and said I can't do that. You couldn't have done Playboy unless they said you could do it. That was part of it.
Starting point is 02:08:27 It's part of your contract. That's why it's so hilarious that they're independent contractors. Because independent contractors, but one that the boss can tell you that you're not allowed to do other shit. It's ridiculous. So they said, do you have any regrets about your WWF days?
Starting point is 02:08:42 No regrets, I enjoyed my time there and now look forward to the future. Do you have a favorite WWF match or memory? Probably winning the Intercontinental Championship. I worked very hard for it and felt honored to hold a title at so many greats before my time had done. Talk about working with Eddie Guerrero, thoughts on his untimely passing because he died in 2006. Because he died in like 2006. Eddie was a great guy, he was always cracking jokes.
Starting point is 02:09:08 I would always go out to the ring with a smile on my face when working with him. That smile was not an act, he was a good friend and always made me smile. When I heard he died, my heart was broken. God bless you, Eddie. He said, are you still in contact with anyone currently in wrestling?
Starting point is 02:09:22 Last time you spoke to Triple H. Oh boy. She said, I do keep in contact with anyone currently in wrestling. Last time you spoke to Triple H. Oh boy. Yeah. She said, I do keep in contact with some of the old New Japan gang since I'm always working out at the LA Dojo, but I live a very busy life as do the wrestlers and I do not get to see much of my old friends. Last time I spoke with Triple H was in 2004
Starting point is 02:09:41 when he went to get Sean at a hotel to take him to rehab. He's done that several times by the way Triple H. Despite breaking my heart, I do wish Triple H all the success in the world. So they said do you keep up with the WWE product, TNA, if so what's your opinion of the product, I don't keep up with wrestling, I'm busy, blah blah blah. They said at one time TNA expressed an interest in working with you. Did you strongly consider it?
Starting point is 02:10:08 She said, yes, I did, but at that time, I got sick with pneumonia and was unable to work it. I called them to let them know this. Right now, I don't have a desire to work with them at this point. They keep asking her about wrestling. And she says, right now, I'm happy with where I'm at. I don't know how.
Starting point is 02:10:24 How are you? I don't think so. She said I did a lot in wrestling and loved my time there. There comes a time when you have to move on. I do not feel I am better than wrestling as many have speculated. Wrestling made me famous and I can't thank people who helped me enough but just felt I had to move on. I guess so. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:10:44 What's the biggest? Misconception you think people have a view okay here it goes that I'm stupid I think a lot of people thought she was stupid really because her voice is weird, and she's a drunk lunatic I think that comes across as stupid. I never thought she was stupid. I thought she was a mess. Yeah I thought she needed help right train right problems She said that I'm stupid, I'm a college graduate, I speak four different languages and have a major in foreign language,
Starting point is 02:11:12 remember Spanish literature. I love to read and write and plan on releasing another book in the future. Any last words for your fans? I love you all, I can't tell you how much your support has meant to me. You are all there with me through the good times and bad times. I was at the Maloes, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 02:11:29 You will all be seeing a lot more of me and will always be special to me. We've seen all of you. Then they do a, give me your initial reaction or short statement about the following. One word answers. Vince McMahon, brilliant. Linda McMahon, smart. Not brilliant. Stephanie McMahon, brilliant. Linda McMahon, smart. Not brilliant. Stephanie McMahon, beautiful.
Starting point is 02:11:48 Bitch. Yeah. Man stealing cut, I mean. That's three words. Great, beautiful lady. Shane McMahon, athletic. Sean, which is the last thing he is. He's ballsy, he's not athletic at all.
Starting point is 02:12:02 He's athletic for a non-wrestler. Throws himself, he does that. He's certainly not athletic at all. He's athletic for a non wrestler throws himself. He does. He's certainly not athletic That's you look at him. You go man the lack of athleticism Makes this guy look so much more impressive because he's just tossing himself in a through glass and shit Yeah, Shawn Michaels friend triple H cerebral Shawn Waltman bad news Sure and the fuck bad news Billy gun friend Eddie Guerrero smile killer Kowalski unique that's one way of putting it he is Antonio Anoki father figure Steve Austin entertaining Jeff Jarrett guitar that's it
Starting point is 02:12:35 it's people with a guitar she says guitar miss kitty slash Stacy Carter the cat that's not anything about her you're're just calling Chris Jericho, Fozzie. Like Fozzie Bear, I guess. That makes sense. Is he a joker? I could see that. Waka Waka? Kane, Monster, Lita, Amazing, Scott Steiner, Peaks,
Starting point is 02:12:58 Hugh Hefner, Sweetheart, Joni Lohr, Survivor. Okay. Survivor, and then by the way, we'll do this last one here, just the movie. In 2006, that movie, Just Another Romantic Wrestling Comedy, actually comes out. What? And it is a Jewish man falls in love with a wrestling princess and it's a no-holds-barred quest for love. Wow, this stars Solasi Amana as Robert John, Nicole Breyer, oh that's not that Nicole,
Starting point is 02:13:37 that's Nicole Byers I'm thinking of. No, Nicole Breyer, don't know who that is. Aaron Fury, Rocco Piedra. Piedra, that's what I thought too at first. I was like, oh my God. April Hunter who plays Diamond Piedra, China plays Roxanne. I've never heard of anybody in this fucking movie.
Starting point is 02:13:59 It's bad, it's very bad. Not one, only like, there's like 20- something people on the IMDB and like six of them Not even one of the six of them have their picture up It's a bunch of gray faith great screens. That's not good gray silhouettes gray silhouettes there. That is bad bad stuff there So yeah, that is gonna be China for this week. I think damn part two of China will finish up in part three It's so worried. It's very Worrisome for her. This is a lot and you know, it's you know, it's on a bad path right now. That's the thing You can tell it's good that heartbreaking
Starting point is 02:14:39 It's pretty fucking heartbreaking and you know, what's gonna happen and bad things and this part three is gonna just be all Shit. Yeah, it is just I mean Neck deep and shit. It's a mess and it's all the all the bad parts It is the major we've heard part two part one was grace. Yeah. Yeah, this is all good This is the end of part one leaving WWE. This is post grace fall gravity. No shoot This is crazy, but still her struggle in and trying to scratch with her nails and grab a branch as she's slipping down the hill Next one is fuck it. I'm going into a full tumble down this mountain. I don't care push off Just gonna push off and see if I can somersault. Fuck it. That's what that is. It's a lot of shit
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Starting point is 02:16:52 Sanitarium. And then part two is nothing else matters, I'll get in your head. The whole time it's just, boop da boop da boop. They just play that fucking guitar lick at the beginning. Well they play the guitar lick just a little, like fucking by itself guitar lick at the big yes. Well, they play the guitar lick just a little like fucking by itself guitar lick a hundred thousand times
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Starting point is 02:20:21 It's not Andrew. Different Gilliam, no. Yeah, no, it's John. The good reverend, Jonathan Gilliam. That's it, yeah. This is Andrew Gilliam, I think it's a different Gilliam isn't it different Gilliam. No. Yeah, that's John the good Reverend Jonathan Gilliam. That's it Yeah, this is Gilliam. I think it's not a reference not a reverend at all. Is there a Gilliam? Armand Gilliam the NBA player totally totally different guy. All right. Well Gilliam. Thank you Mike with no last name Megan DeLayer Stephen Baker Beth Kufel Karla McGee the X Giants wide receiver Stephen Baker the touchdown maker yes number 85 himself fuck yeah Stephen Baker Karla McGee Manders would know last name Mitchell Forrester
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Starting point is 02:21:17 Bargen? He died at like 114, I think he was that old. Ryan McCarty, Tony McKay, Bowtie Mouse, Joseph Lehmann, Lehmann, Bradley Myers, Erica Maxson, Allie Mack Attack, and Stroke Malone. What the fuck, and Nicola Everson, Julianne Cabrera, Amy Hagerman, Hagerman, Kristen Camille, Connie Walters, Mary Krimmer her watched her Laura free
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