Crime in Sports - #445 - Backdoor To Death - Chyna AKA Joanie Laurer - Part 3

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

This week, we finish up the story of one of the biggest female stars in wrestling history, with Joanie having a lot of problems keeping clean, and also having a longing for fame. She tries to... do movies, but ends up in many porn titles, while sliding into a hole of addiction/depression. She is arrested several times, including trying to stab Japanese police, after an apparent attempt to take her own life. Finally, her sad demise...Do porn with your ex boyfriend, have your manager send Dr Drew emergency messages, concerning your addictions, and get gang tackled by Japanese police, so they can disarm you with Joanie "Chyna" Laurer - Part 3!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Prime members, you can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Hello everybody and welcome back to Crime and Sports. Yay! Oh yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petragallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Thanks for joining us today. You did it again. As we wrap up China here and get this done. It's been a wild journey so far, obviously. It's amazing. It's been a lot and you feel like this is a weird one because you feel equally bad for her because a lot of this is not her fault. No.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And at the same time, some of it is on her at the same time for having a massive ego very quickly, which is not helpful. Can't blame anybody else for a meth addiction. I don't know. And that's also another thing. It's hard to blame once you start doing all that kind of shit. It's like, oh, you're obviously, I mean, you've done some things too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Done a few things here. Yeah. Yeah. Shoulder some credibility. Yeah, there's a lot of people kind of, and once she's kind of vulnerable due to her own doings, then a lot of people exploit that she's vulnerable. So then you end up with this real shit salad of a life here that this poor lady is leading at this point.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We will get into this very quickly. Kind a sex tape where somebody spent way too much time in your ass. A lot of, it's all ass. Well, it's- Way too much. The one's called Back Door to China. I mean, it's literally- This is all- They're telling you what's gonna,
Starting point is 00:01:56 at least you know in the title what it's gonna be. It's not like it's, oh, what's this? I didn't expect this. You know what you're getting. So quickly before we start though, definitely head over to ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com. Get your tickets. Small Town Murder Live shows are set for this year.
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Starting point is 00:03:03 yeah, so we're in 2006 right now. And she, we'll start out with a couple of quotes here from an interview she did. This is in the January 2007 issue of, and we know this magazine because we've been featured obviously many times in interviews of Lifted Magazine. Obviously. What is that?
Starting point is 00:03:24 It's weightlifting. At first I'm like, is that about trucks? Oh, is it? Yeah, that's what I thought it was. Yeah, me too. I'm like, this is about four by fours and shit. They have another magazine called Dropped, which is about the opposite trucks. Slammed.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Slammed. So yeah, the Lifted Magazine is going to talk to her and kind of get into a couple of personal things here. They talk about how they ask her, obviously, thanks for joining us here, and they talk about the surreal life and the surreal life reunion show. They said at this time you made positive changes in your life. Can you comment on those changes? So this is she's turning the corner. She's good now This is a this. Yeah, this is like a redemption moment of like
Starting point is 00:04:17 She had the whole surreal life thing where everybody in the country was talking about holy shit You see China dancing around us naked with a bottle and arguing with her boyfriend and all that shit And this is the I'm good now. This I'm much better. I'm not doing that anymore. Yeah, she said, I think that the positive changes were my separation from several things that were destructive in my life. And since then, I've become an advocate for individuals in violent relationships, even more so because I went through some, or one.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Being a public figure, there's a lot of things I did wrong. Dealing with fame and trying to have a private life because I didn't know how to deal with them. have a private life because I didn't know how to deal with them. Most of the time I didn't know how to deal with violent relationships so I kept many things hidden. She says instead of trying to deal with my problems, I thought they would go away naturally but in retrospect I've learned that those things like domestic violence don't go away. And so the lesson I learned was to take the risk and do what you have to do to separate yourself
Starting point is 00:05:05 From that situation by asking for help She said a lot of women don't know how to handle that situation It's really hard to fight alone So I had people support me who encouraged me to walk away from a relationship that was doing more harm than good So that's what she's saying basically she's saying that the whole thing was based around this relationship which is probably a lot true because Yeah, the problem is okay You get in a really if you start a relationship and you don't have a meth habit and nobody's ever beat you up or anything
Starting point is 00:05:32 Like that and then you're in a relationship where you develop a meth habit with this other person and this person is has there's violence Going back and forth. Obviously, he's put her hands his hands on her. We know for a fact She's put her hands on him because she got arrested for it right yeah so I mean there's a you back and forth and you can get out of that situation that's fine but there's still a meth addiction and there's a lot of stuff that's gonna like a like a slug trail behind you of shit yeah so that's that's really tough. She said that people have been helping her,
Starting point is 00:06:09 but you can't put all your shit on everybody. She said, I wasn't aware of any program set up to help women in situations like this. Most women don't do anything because of fear, but they're already experiencing the fear and the worst part of it. So yeah, they say, what were the happiest moments in your life? This is a good question.
Starting point is 00:06:28 It is, yeah. In your life. I don't think we know. Not your career. Not my career. What is your life? She could say I got a doll I wanted when I was nine or eight for Christmas or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:41 She says, I would say there are two happy moments in my life. Not two happiest, there are two happy moments in my life Not two happiest there are two happy moments in my life is only two that were worthy of a smile Well, which topped the chart. These are the two the first was when I had the opportunity to fight in Japan Really? That's wow for that fight I was invited to wrestle by the new Japan wrestling corporation where I would trained over a year with different fighters when I went to Fight it was the with the mentality that it was this that it was a positive message for women But looking back I wouldn't do it again. I was very appreciative of the invitation It was very humbling my experience in Japan taught me how to defend myself And I consider that a gift in Japan the wrestlers actually can kick your fucking ass
Starting point is 00:07:21 and I consider that a gift. Yeah, in Japan, the wrestlers actually can kick your fucking ass. Really? They're throwing blows? Yeah, the way they train over there is a completely different thing. You're in a dojo for like a long time and they, you're like some, they used to do it
Starting point is 00:07:33 where you were like somebody's helper for like two years and you did everything you wanted them to do and it was like this apprentice system that you'd come up through. But they really would beat the shit out of each other. It's all planned, but if I'm gonna punch you, I'm gonna punch you, and you're gonna punch me back. So it's.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Just know you're about to get hit. Exactly, so they're known for being real stiff in Japan. So you gotta really know how to defend yourself or else someone will kick the shit out of you in the ring. So she said, my experience in Japan taught me how to defend myself. The second happiest moment of my life is right now. So not even another moment.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Right now. I'm good now. This second. And I'm in a place where I'm looking forward to more. I'm in a place where I'm enjoying just being at peace. I feel better than ever. Yeah, the two times I smiled are right now and when I got punched in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:08:20 When a Japanese man punched me in the mouth. Holy shit. That's what's making her happy in her whole life. That's the, yeah, she doesn't have kids either. No, no, no, no kids or anything like that, which the way her life went. I mean, yeah, probably for the best. Also, the way she talks, you can't get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:08:34 No, that's true, yeah, it's be a tough one. Be a tough one. The back door to China is not a very fertile one. She says, I feel better than ever and I feel I look my best and I'm starting my acting career by going to several auditions. She's been acting for years, but there's still more growing to do and in the future I know I'll appreciate where I am right now. I feel that I have survived and I wake up happy. Like everyone else, I'm basically living my life and I'm enjoying it very much.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Okay, she thinks post-meth addiction is her best look. That's her best look. Wow. Which is, that's tough to say that. You've done a lot of things to your body here. So they said, can you comment on your beliefs and spirituality and your motivation? And she just says, I consider myself a very spiritual person, blah, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:09:29 blah. She doesn't really get into anything. She's just, I'm very spiritual for four paragraphs. Perfect. Don't care about that. So they said, what advice would you give to young females who are interested in the entertainment business? That's a good question for someone.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah. She's like the cautionary tale at this point. So, you know. Don't do meth. That's a good advice. Yeah, try not to get hooked up with a boyfriend who gets you on meth probably would be great. The most important thing is to surround yourself
Starting point is 00:09:59 with good people. When I began in the business, I didn't know everything, so I was around drugs and things I knew were not right. The best thing you can do is to be true to yourself and surround yourself with the right people. It's important to stop and contemplate about your life and its direction. It's okay to be alone sometimes so you can think.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah, great answer. That's right. They said, what about you? You've had past relationships of abuse. Are you ever going to be in a relationship again? She says, definitely. I'm a relationship person. That's what she says, that's right.
Starting point is 00:10:30 She said, she likes, she doesn't like, I guess casual relationships, casual. I'm a relationship person. She likes to settle down with somebody, I guess. Which seems to be true because she's had like, just several long-term boyfriends really. So she's done this over the years. Serial dater.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, she's kind of the opposite of that. She's a serial settler downer. Serial relationshiper. Yeah, serial settler downer. That's what she does. She said, and since I'm in the public eye, it's hard for people to get involved. I don't know about family since I've never had it.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah. She says she does not read any of the shit online. She says, I don't want to. Oh. Yeah, she tries not to read anything about herself online, because by now it's all negative. Oh. It's a lot of negative shit. So I mean the posters are you've got a dick.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Imagine what the articles are. That's what I mean. Yeah. It can't be much better than that. It's not much better. And blogs and things like that, especially in the 2008 2007 It's now, you know pre, you know pre major social media, but still right. There's a lot out there So many people sitting there in a basement with their dick out writing about her. That's gross
Starting point is 00:11:39 She well, they're not into her. Yeah while they whack it to the porno She may whack it to her porn. So they ask her if she'd consider returning to wrestling. She said, I still receive offers all the time. Yeah, I'm sure Indies will, she'd be a draw off. She popped up in an Indie. Yeah, they said, and some people say that I said I plan on returning.
Starting point is 00:11:59 It's been eight years and I will not return to wrestling. That's a long, it's kind of a long hiatus for that. I'm very proud of what I've done, but I've grown and I'm looking return to wrestling. That's a long, it's kind of a long hiatus for that. I'm very proud of what I've done, but I've grown and I'm looking forward to future endeavors. So what's next for Joni? After, she said, after doing surreal life fame games, Jesus, which that's a road rules slash real world challenge type show, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's one of those where they run out of ideas so they're like what if we get the people who are on the shows we already did and just make them like you know. Make them do other shit. Yeah we can make them play badminton in the yard and shit and see what happens. Yeah see who knows the rules to cornhole. Let's do it. So she said I'm still looking for the right medium for me. I also have a film coming out titled Illegal Aliens. In addition, my experience with surreal life has been so wonderful, really. And I'm so appreciative. That's what told everyone in America
Starting point is 00:12:52 she was a train wreck, was that. Like nobody paid attention to any of the other shit before that, that was like, oh, that's that wrestler lady. What happened to her, holy fuck. She said though, I wanna continue to act and work with VH1. I would also like to do more movies and perhaps do something in Las Vegas and in a way I'm starting over and it's very exciting
Starting point is 00:13:12 I believe because I'm so unique that the right thing with my name on it has yet to come but when it does It's gonna be great So that's what she says here February 8th 2007 she's on Larry King Live to discuss the death of Anna Nicole Smith. Yeah. Who she said was a good friend of hers apparently she said. I didn't know. I never knew.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That's a weird combo to put together, those two. That is, imagine you see them walking into somewhere together, you're like, where the fuck did these two come from? Is there even a photo online of them together? It's a crazy visual, it has to be. That's. There's literally two pictures of them together.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah. What? Oh, there you go. Well, it was 2007, too, so. Pre-social media, yeah. If there was Instagram, there'd be 700,000 pictures of them together. Yeah. What? There you go. Well, it was 2007 too. So pre social media. Yeah. If there was Instagram, there'd be 700,000 pictures of them. Yeah. But if you think if they were together somewhere for like, it's obviously for promo and there'd be shitloads of pictures of them. I don't think they were best friends. Put it that way. I don't think they were best friends. I think she's probably, I think they did a
Starting point is 00:14:21 promo together. I think probably for VH1 or something. Yeah. Well, Joni is visibly upset on Larry King. And she says that she knew it was coming because of how the media ridiculed her. Really? Anna Nicole Smith. Yeah, it was the only it was the only thing option was she had to do that. She's she's got to die. She said that she and she's also drawing parallels between what
Starting point is 00:14:46 happened to Anna Nicole Smith and what happened to her, which is like, yeah, calm down. God, Joni, you know? Yeah. You guys drove me to math. That's the thing. But the other thing, the, I guess people who knew Anna Nicole Smith well said that Anna Nicole Smith didn't consider China a friend. They didn't know each other really. She's just on here like, oh man, my poor, you know, yeah. Anna Nicole's looking for A-list celebrities to justify her being in the public eye. Yeah, that way she can go on Larry King
Starting point is 00:15:20 if she says I'm friends with her. She's clawing up, she's not clawing with China. After the Chris Benoit thing, you saw people that you haven't seen in a long time popping up in the media to be like, well obviously this was gonna happen because of this, this, and this. It's just, you know, it's something.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So, Larry King says, China, you're having a rough time with this. You're crying a lot. Just him saying, so China. She says, I totally saw that coming I feel that and Larry says you saw it coming He jumps in and what you see she said well from my perspective, and he says meaning Yeah, just here. Just here putting calm needles in her fucking arm. What you come down Larry Jesus. Yeah, let's go meeting. Let's Needles in her fucking arm. What do you come down Larry Jesus? Yeah, let's go meeting. Let's
Starting point is 00:16:12 Laura says here meaning I mean I just everybody's so sad now trying to This little woman has been ridiculed from a joke people have taken advantage of her You know you start to go why why are you doing this? You know? I've had those feelings last night And I got a last night. I got in a huge fight with my friends I thought were friends. I keep going back and Larry says, over what? What was the fight about? He's turning to the camera. Exclusive, China fights with the friends. Larry King Live.
Starting point is 00:16:37 China, what were you fighting about? Was the mud involved? Tonight. Yeah, was the mud jello? What substance did this fight involve? She says, you know, you never know who's your friend and and he said a fight over what? This guy was a great interviewer and she said I just and he says it was a
Starting point is 00:17:03 So he's just it's hilarious leading the way. Oh man She says it's hard for people to relate that when you're dealing with public scrutiny nonstop, everybody's watching you, everybody's looking at you, and everything's usually toward the negative. And she's done reality shows, and I've done them too, and I've been involved in last night. And so Larry says, so you feel that she got a raw deal? Which is a very... Really putting words in her mouth and just making this interview himself.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Why do you need her there, Larry? You don't even need her. What, it was just she got a raw deal? He really synthesizes things down to a real tiny nugget. This is why you've been divorced 11 times, Larry. What are you doing? For what? Why'd you do that?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Where you going? Where you going? For why? How much you spending on my money? Jesus. You don't need a new car. The other one works just fine. It works just fine.
Starting point is 00:17:56 We bought it three years ago. So he says, so you feel that she got a raw deal. And I feel that, she says. And King goes, OK. And she says, I feel that she says and King goes okay and she says I feel that when they talk about when she talks about her feelings that they're the exact same as mine okay now you get bring in Monique going going I don't know GOEN she's Anna Nicole's close friend and like a documented close friend actually someone who knows her and wife of trim spa CEO Alex going oh that makes her trim spa she says I was just in the Bahamas
Starting point is 00:18:32 visiting Anna three weeks ago myself John James were close friends of Anna and when I asked her about Joni lore her name China if she was friends with her, she said, not at all. Not at all. And it seems to me that China keeps putting everything back on her and trying to put herself in the limelight. Because she's saying, it feels like me. Which she did. They said, but the pure fact is we loved her
Starting point is 00:19:01 as a family member, we never, you know, we were always there for her, whether through thick or thin and blah blah blah blah blah blah. She said, but all of a sudden for people to come out of the woodwork like they know so much about her, it's just actually funny to me. And Larry King says, but she does have a point when she says that people made fun of Anna Nicole. She got a raw deal.
Starting point is 00:19:20 It's a raw deal. Raw deal. What do you think? Raw deal? No. Okay. And this lady says, yes, I mean, people made fun. She got a raw deal. That's a raw deal. Raw deal. What do you think? Raw deal? No? Okay. And this lady says, yes, I mean, people made fun.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And he says, they didn't treat her well enough, right? And she finishes, of her, people made fun of her and they loved her. It was love and hate with Anna. I mean, she had so many fans and she loved her fans. She was, but you know, it was a love-hate thing but Anna was in her she just had a big heart and Joni jumps in and says that's making me very angry Larry says well, you'll get a chance to answer that anger We'll be back after this message where China Jon Jody Laura will suplex me through my broadcast
Starting point is 00:20:09 table. Next on CNN. Well the trim spa guy pops in and tells her how she could lose weight. Okay coming back after this message. The craziest interview. Oh Larry. So after the commercial, that is the commercial break too, that's what's funny. That's what's great about it.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, I'm sure it is. Larry King says, China, you want to respond to what Monique said, that you are not a friend of Anna Nicole's and that they take umbrage that you go around saying that you were. Oh my God, here we go. China respond. Joni says, I'm shocked because that wasn't the point. The point was I didn't speak to Anna a whole lot afterwards because I tried to, but she wouldn't return,
Starting point is 00:20:58 she didn't want to. That means you're not friends. That's what that means. She said, I wanted to be friends with her and I tried to get in touch with her but she didn't want to talk. That's essentially what she said. I wanted to be friends with a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I tried and she didn't want to be friends with me. So that's not a friend. That is so funny. Why you gotta talk so? And Larry says, didn't want to be a friend of yours. And Joni says. So embarrassing. And Larry says didn't want to be a friend of yours And Johnny So bad Larry King with another lady going no painter somebody who you wanted to be friends with their friends are saying they Don't want to be friends with you. It's hilarious. You got any thoughts thoughts on that Thoughts of thoughts of why you have no friends and go
Starting point is 00:21:45 We're here with Joni Laura talking about why nobody likes it John Joni Why do you have no friends Fucking hilarious that this guy was on the air for this long. No, just, just, holy, just ambushing her right around. Didn't want to be a friend of yours. Well, he asked the questions that polite people wouldn't ask, which I guess is what you want in an interview. Your friend's friend says you're not friends.
Starting point is 00:22:18 What are your thoughts? So she didn't want to be a friend of yours. Jody says, wow, this is fucking, we got to do it in their own words. Cause this is some double talking crazy shit here that she's going to say. Joni's all fucked up. So we're going to do in their own words, quote, I don't think it's that she didn't want to be a friend of mine. I think it's just that you want to be alone.
Starting point is 00:22:42 You know, it is, you kind of don't want to go out or she asked me many times come over to the, uh, to go over and hang out at the pool with her. And then at those times I didn't want to go out. First of all, I think it's so extremely rude what that woman just said, because this is not about getting me publicity. I get my own, and that's exactly what I was talking about. Okay, and then she goes on to say, get some trim spa, exactly what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Okay, like she's saying you're on here promoting trim spa. That's why you're here. You're here talking about how I'm not friends with her and then you're like, try trim spa. So Larry then opens up the cross talk to go, all right, let's have you two argue, which is amazing now, okay. Now it's not, you respond to what she said,
Starting point is 00:23:33 now it's, let's just get it, let's be Jerry Springer now, fuck it. Now I'm not gonna reframe nice comments and try to make them bitches. Let's get ready to rumble. Let's go. So he says, Monique, is that what you think she's looking for, Monique? Publicity?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. And this Monique says, well, when I was at Daniel's and my husband was at Daniel's funeral, I asked her, why isn't there any family members? What about your friends? And I remember Chyna being on your show when Daniel just died, and as far as I'm concerned taking some low shots about Right away. She went into all these allegations like she knew all this stuff about Anna
Starting point is 00:24:11 But yet when I talked to Anna she said that she was kind of like a stalker and she would call her and Anna What didn't want to return her calls? whoa, so for someone to make claims that they know something about someone when they haven't even spoken to them for a while, I just, and Joni jumps in, well, why is this about me? You're here, why is this about you? That's the point. So Larry King says, just for credentials, that's all.
Starting point is 00:24:40 But we'll get off that for now. We wanna go back to Anna Nicole. And Joni says exactly. And then they said there's a movie they were in together, Anna Nicole Smith. Remember we talked about that? Yeah. Don't remember. But she was in it.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Was it illegal aliens? Was she in that? Is that coming up? I don't remember. But they said- This is the movie they were in together I think. Oh yeah, it's coming out I think. The movie they're in is still coming out.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Because they said Larry then goes Bad break China if they pull the movie for a while you're in the movie Yeah, and she says the whole thing's a bad break. That's true. Yes It was very it was supposed to be a very exciting time And you know this is not about you know I'm trying to give insight of how maybe I think Anna felt and it's hard It is things like the movie which makes it sad is like that things like the movie I was out promoting the movie when I heard this and it was so sad because this is such an exciting thing And Larry said would have been important for her
Starting point is 00:25:38 And Joni said it would have been important for her because it makes you feel good when you're feeling lonely or when you have those feelings And you accomplish something and get through it and it's done and people believe in you and they let you get through it And I was there with her and it's hard and it's just and it's just hard makes you feel good when you finally get there So sounds like they met like on a movie set or doing promotions and Joni Tried to be friends with her and Anna didn't wasn't interested. That's what it sounds like here Interesting so Larry King says, Monique, have you learned anything at all about a funeral? Where, when, how, why, who? Am I invited?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Is there a dress code? Am I invited? These are things I wanna know. Will there be food afterwards? I'm interested in that. Should I stop to eat beforehand? This is a big deal when you go into a funeral you get all dressed up You know you want to you want to do that so she says no when we tried to contact Howard
Starting point is 00:26:32 He was just so devastated member Howard Howard Stern Howard case Yeah, whatever the fuck on her reality show He was a douche actually I'm in the process of trying to contact her bodyguard mo And maybe I'll be able to talk to him right now I'm just trying to get in contact with people that actually That can't actually speak on the phone because they're just so devastated. Are you talking about? No, I don't know care how fucking devastated you are when someone dies people call you give their condolences Then you tell them about the funeral because that's what fucking adults do.
Starting point is 00:27:09 We accept condolences and say thank you for thinking me I'll see you this date. That's your job when someone dies. We'll dip carrots and ranch together. That's it we're gonna do that we're gonna eat tiny meatballs together don't worry. Off of toothpicks. It's going to be great. And we'll hate them and then we'll leave. And we'll leave. And if we're Italian, there'll be a dice game going on somewhere in a corner somewhere. No, no, go somewhere and eat a lot better.
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Starting point is 00:28:39 But just as quickly as his empire rose it came crashing down. They're announcing the unsealing of a 3 count indictment, charging Sean Combs with racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking, interstate transportation for prostitution. I was f***ed up. I hit rock bottom. But I made no excuses. I'm disgusted. I'm so sorry.
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Starting point is 00:29:27 And she's like, who the hell am I gonna talk to? Well then how'd you get on Larry King? You can put it out there, somebody'll get you. Totally, so King says, I know, but have you tried to reach anyone connected with her that you may know or be friends with? And Joni says, actually I was called and I was called by another producer and iti says actually I was I was called and I was called by another producer and it was weird because I was getting ready to do
Starting point is 00:29:49 some promotion and he said no I mean have you called anyone and she said I have not called and he said that's all I asked I didn't ask who you called I asked if you called answer my questions when answer. He's tired of hearing her shit. Ask the specific questions that I asked. She said I have not called. And he said I haven't asked, I didn't ask who you may have called. Okay, so 2007, Illegal Aliens comes out
Starting point is 00:30:17 and it is, on the cover, there's two names at the top. Anna Nicole Smith, Joni Lohr. Oh, that's right. And it says, they're here to try to save the world now I don't recognize any of the three women on the cover of this thing. Look at this. I Don't know I think that's that's not The role they're all 15 years younger than both of these women all three of these So I think they might play the aliens as we'll get into Which China would make sense as an alien I guess because she's and Nicole to and kind of otherworldly and in certain ways. Oh
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah, so this is directed by David and Cola Came out in 2007 an hour and 36 minutes by the way two point seven stars out of ten on IMDB That's not good out of a thousand ratings too, so it's it's not like a small sample size Overwhelmingly terrible terrible So here's the description Charlie's Angels goes sci-fi with a touch of Men in Black thrown in for good measure.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Okay, when you advertise your movie to the public, it's not supposed to be the pitch you gave to the studio to get it made. Because they said it's Charlie's Angels mixed with Men in Black and they went fucking high concept gold. Here's two movies that did well. Well that's how you pitch a movie though, as you got to say, it's a cross between this and this and if it's two exciting that did well. Yeah, well that's how you pitch a movie though, as you gotta say, it's a cross between this and this and if it's two exciting things then great, but that's not what you tell the public. When aliens morph into super hot babes and arrive to protect Earth from the intergalactic
Starting point is 00:32:00 forces of evil, guided by syntax, their holographic mentor, these illegal aliens are willing to use every trick in the book and every sexy outfit in their wardrobe to accomplish their mission. This film is filled with high energy action, low brow spoofs and the high camp acting reminiscent of the classic B-movie genre. How else could this film get away with Anna Nicole Smith saving the world? Illegal Aliens pokes fun at today's Hollywood and pays tribute to the so-called bad movies we all love to hate.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Okay, that was somebody's synopsis that they wrote for it. That wasn't the movie itself putting that out. Okay, so yeah, we have China Plays Rex. I don't know. Anna Nicole Smith plays Lucy. And I don't recognize a fucking soul in the rest of Gladys Jimenez. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Lenny Soren. Mark Woody Keppel. I don't know who those people are. John James. I don't know any of these people most of the people do not have IMDB pictures at all so really yeah it's not a good this came out when 2007 yeah it's not good I still haven't gotten me going Neil Gilbert II exactly 2007 she's in another movie, Cougar Club. Oh. This is an hour 33 minutes and this has a whopping four stars out of ten on IMDB.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So doing great here. And she's improving. She is definitely improving and this is on the cover it says The Hunt is on, Cougar Club. It's got like a logo of like a paw thing on there. That's not a porn? I don't think it's a porn. I's got like a logo of like a paw thing on there. That's not a porn? I don't think it's a porn. I think it's a real movie. A prop man might be soft core or something,
Starting point is 00:33:50 but it says two friends graduate and start at a law firm. Hogan is into Cougars. Spence needs his employer's recommendation for Yale Law, so being with his wife isn't smart. He helps Hogan start Cougar Club. They try to bang older ladies apparently. Yeah, this is, no, Joe Mantegna's in this movie. It's not a porno.
Starting point is 00:34:12 The chick from, what's the fucking show with the nerds on it? Big Bang Theory, she's in this. Oh. The blonde one. Taley Cuoco? Yes, she's in this movie. This is not a porn.
Starting point is 00:34:24 No, it's not. Those are legitimate actors. She's extremely wealthy. That shows in hardcore syndication. Incredibly. She's doing very well. At the time she wasn't maybe, but this is, every single name has an IMDB picture.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Carrie Fisher's in it for Christ's sake. Princess Leia's in it. Stop it. Yeah. Norm Crosby. China was in a movie with Princess Leia? Yes, Norm Crosby. Fucking, he was an old guy. Yeah, Loretta Devine Okay, there's a lot of people in this fucking movie and China plays Teddy Archibald, which sounds like a guy
Starting point is 00:34:54 But yeah, so that seems like it was like a Hall an actual studio production. Yeah, but didn't come out very well with obviously. It's only got four stars out of 10. I don't know. So November 20th, 2007, there's a big article about China's rough road in Hollywood. And it is, if they need like a quote unquote freak woman, you know what I mean? We need a big jacked up woman that they grab her.
Starting point is 00:35:22 But it's not like, she's not gonna sit around and have an emotional monologue or anything. Like it's, no. Or an introspective take on anything. But her road in Hollywood has been rocky, but it's also meth rocks on the road. That's the problem. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:35:37 When you got meth rocks in your road, shit gets bumpy. It's tough, it's tough to rebound from that too. There's only been a few that have done it. It's fucking true. So I mean, at this point too As far as wrestlers in former wrestlers and movies it was still what are we gonna hire a wrestler like there's no Hulk Hogan had several movies in the 90s, but they were all like crappy. They were you know, mr. Nanny
Starting point is 00:35:59 It's a joke. Suburban Commando shit like that. Yeah Suburban Commando, shit like that. Suburban Commando. Yeah. That's a great one. But Mr. Nanny's wonderful, it's so terrible. I watched the fuck out of Suburban Commando. Oh yeah. It was so dumb.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Christopher Lloyd is in it, so that makes it fun. There's a dumb kid, it's great. But they said outside of like, you know, like a henchman role, like Terry Funk in Roadhouse, where he's like, you know, one of the guys, one of the other bouncers, and outside of roles like that, he was an over the top too, Terry Funk in Roadhouse, where he's like, you know, one of the guys, one of the other bouncers, and outside of roles like that, he was an over the top too, Terry Funk.
Starting point is 00:36:29 He had a little run there in 87. In 2007 also, it was a time when like, a large woman is a spectacle, so you can't just put her in and then just have her be in the love interest of somebody. A mother of two who works at an insurance company is having a hard time with, and she's, you know, it's not her, It's not her. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And then Matthew McConnay spills coffee on her skirt, and then they meet at the dry cleaner. That's not gonna be her. And that's the thing with most wrestlers, the problem is they're bigger than normal people usually. So when you put them in a movie, they have to be, that's what they're playing, a freakishly large person. The only person, obviously, is Dwayne Johnson,
Starting point is 00:37:06 who has overcome this, but he overcame this by being an action star that had a, you know, whatever. There's just not a lot of like... And John Cena, who's had the opportunity to laugh at himself, you know what I mean? He does that really well. He does, he laughs at himself really well, too, yeah. And I think John Cena's also done a lot
Starting point is 00:37:25 of acting lessons, I feel like. He's really. I think you're right. I think he works on that real hard. You can't have, he's very lucky to be handsome too. That helps. You know what I mean, he's certainly, he can work in a lot of situations,
Starting point is 00:37:36 but he's willing to laugh at himself, and China wasn't, she wasn't willing to do that. No, no, no, she wanted to be taken seriously. Which I get it, but. Come on. You know. No, no, no. She wanted to be taken seriously. Which I get it, but you know. A giant woman. Yeah. She said, this is talking to Slam Wrestling.
Starting point is 00:37:50 She said, I've been in Hollywood for eight years now. She said, I've done a lot of TV. I've been playing my music. I've been getting naked a lot. I've done a few movies. Okay. That naked part, I didn't get paid for. No that was not all the time but sometimes.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Sometimes I did that for free and got arrested. It happens and sometimes it's just on national television for everyone to watch. She said I have a movie that just came out it's called Cougar Club it's a comedy I'm really happy about it. I got to work with a great cast like Joe Mantegna and one of my movie heroines Faye Dunaway. How the fuck did I miss her in the cast? Faye Dunaway is in this. Jesus Christ. She's beating her with no more wire hangers and she's attacking her. Jesus Christ. So she says she's not ruling anything out including the role of Wonder Woman for which rumors often link her as a prime candidate.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. She said that would be perfect for her. She said, that would be a wonderful role. I would absolutely love to do that. Yes. I've heard the rumors. There's a lot of rumors I hear about. Sometimes I hear about them just like the fans do in tabloids or newspapers, but I definitely love to do that kind of role. I like sci-fi roles, horror, action, anything I can play the role well in. I'd like to do that kind of role. I like sci-fi roles, horror, action, anything. I can play the role well in I'd like to do." Okay. They said, would you, does that include maybe a role back in the ring as a wrestler? And she said, well, I've never been asked. Two interviews ago, she said, I get tons of offers to wrestle. She said, but I haven't always treated, I
Starting point is 00:39:22 haven't always been treated nicely in wrestling. so I don't know why I would. And anyway, that's not my ultimate goal. My ultimate goal is to do more films. And boy, does she. She does them. Now next, Philadelphia Daily News has an article. September 3rd, 2008, China to host bikini contest. Yeah, she is gonna be doing a meet and greet with fans and ready for the bikini contest
Starting point is 00:39:48 apparently. I don't know the models interested models must show up by 930 and to win $150. Oh wow. She's hosting $150 bikini contest. That's one rung above open mind. Yeah, that is not what Dwayne the Rock Johnson was doing in his film career. You know what I mean? There's thousands of dollars attached to that. 150. December 28th, 2008. Chyna's hospitalized here. She's going to be rushed to the hospital early on a Saturday, which was her birthday, by the way.
Starting point is 00:40:29 She was so drunk that when she was admitted, the psychiatrist at the hospital couldn't even do a psych evaluation on her because she was so shit hammered. That loaded. That loaded. Paramedics were called to her home in Burbank just before 5 a.m., all night night vendor there, and who knows how long. Saturday she was celebrating her birthday
Starting point is 00:40:49 with a few friends and had way too many drinks, which didn't mix well with all of her prescriptions. Right. Friends found her passed out with cuts on her arms and were so worried they called 911. After she was taken to the hospital, doctors wanted to do a psych evaluation, but her blood alcohol was so high they had to wait.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And in the hospital, Chyna's quote, when asked about it from the hospital, she said, quote, all I really want right now is a hamburger and French fries right now. She's very drunk. Very drunk. That is an absolute. I really want right now is a hamburger and french fries right now. So right now, right now, she said twice, which is, you know, right now, right now, how fast you want right now, right now.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, right now was one word. Yeah, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now. I want to have her right now, right now. I want a hamburger and cheeseburgers right now. I want french fries, or be good. So 2009, as if that's not bad enough, embarrassing enough to come out. Another night in China comes out in 2009. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And this is her and Sean Waltman again. Wow. So I don't know what the fuck's going on here. The synopsis is China is back and oh boy is she horny Apparently so oh boy this time She really gets down and dirty as she takes us even deeper into her hot and steamy sex life Watches her boyfriend comes out to the pool and sucks on her huge clit while she sun bathes She takes him inside giving him a sexy strip tease and fucks him silly.
Starting point is 00:42:29 That's the synopsis. There's four scenes, all China and ex-Pac here, and it's 64 minutes long. So God dang it. That's something. 64 minutes, 48 of which he's in a rat. No, that's later. Really? That's back door to China, which he's in Iraq. No that's later. Really? That's back door to China which is coming up.
Starting point is 00:42:50 That's the third in the trilogy. It's a trilogy really. They're good. Wait till you see that if she didn't pass away there would have been a prequel trilogy like Star Wars. That's how they were going to do it. Okay. That's how they were gonna do it. Yeah. Okay, September 20th, 2010, China hospitalized for medication overdose again.
Starting point is 00:43:09 This is the second time? Second time here, yeah. She allegedly over-medicated herself with a sleeping aid. Fuck. She was suffering from alcohol poisoning when she was taken to UCLA Hospital, which is, you can't mix those together at that volume. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:43:24 But these wrestlers too, that's one thing, especially the 90s wrestlers, they were like, well, if one pill works, then you take four and that's better. That's just, that was their whole, I've heard a million of those guys, well, if two is good, then 10 is better, right? That's what they would say.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Like that was their whole attitude with painkillers with anything. Yeah, well, two somas, I'll take 12 that'll be even Okay, they work then let's let them work. Yeah So a source now tells the website that she took as many as five times the suggested dosage of Benadryl to help her sleep And found herself throwing up and struggling to walk properly when she woke up and found herself throwing up and struggling to walk properly when she woke up. They add that China's been treated with fluids in the emergency room and you know, she'll survive.
Starting point is 00:44:13 She'll get it and you know, she was on celebrity rehab already too. This was on, she was already did celebrity rehab. Dr. Drew couldn't solve the problem? Dr. Drew could not solve the problem as with a lot of those people on that show It's pretty deep and grain problem and putting it on television probably doesn't make it better You know just just off the top of my head 2011 she is in a movie called losing control This is four point two stars out of ten on IMDB, so she's it's getting so much better
Starting point is 00:44:45 She's yet to crack five on IMDB though for a movie. She's in here Losing control it says unable to keep her to give her boyfriend a firm Yes, when he asked to marry him ask her to marry him Sam sets off on a series of dating adventures to find empirical proof that Ben is the one series of dating adventures to find empirical proof that Ben is the one. What a terrible fucking she needs. She needs spiritual guide. I'm not sure. I'm going to go whore around for a while. What is this? Try some other dicks out and then when I'm done, or I'm going to go to several temples and pray about it.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Find out if you're the one imagine a guy being like that listen, sweetie I'd love to marry you, but I'm gonna go get my shit and as much as I can and I'll be back And we'll see I gotta see if your sleeves the right one gotta see So people in this movie couple people I kind of recognize you know But nobody like extremely famous or anything like that, but she plays Barb Yeah Yeah, why not to that's a good cast 2011 is back door to China Here we go back door to China the synopsis China explores her sexuality by trying anal
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah, that nice trying giving it a look-see and sexuality by trying anal. Isn't that nice? Trying. Giving it a look-see. And this has 7.4 rating, 7.4 stars out of 10 on IMDB. There you go. So you know what? She cracked. She did it. She found the genre. And she's the star. Other people in this, we have Chyna, obviously. Diana Prince. Probably. China obviously. Diana Prince, Dylan Ryder, which I assume is a common last name in the
Starting point is 00:46:28 porn industry. It's got to be a gal, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. D-Y-L-A-N Ryder. Those look like the women. Then there is Mick Blue, a guy. Billy Glide, he's not hiding anything. Oh my, he's really getting in there. Before he leaves the house in the morning, he just lubes up just in case. My name's Glide, for a reason.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Billy Glide. Evan Stone, whose face is horrifying. Look at this guy's face. He's a very popular guy. Oh, okay, I was gonna say, look at his face. Yeah, incredibly popular. He's a scary looking dude. And then there is Lee Stone,
Starting point is 00:47:04 whose his picture, it looks like he just kidnapped somebody. Look at this fucking profile picture. It's him, no shirt, big tattoo, looking crazy, with a, in a field with a van in the background. He got the white van in the background. There's a white panel van. It looks like he just stuffed people into it. And then he's looking at the camera like,
Starting point is 00:47:22 you didn't see that, did you? That's the craziest. Hey, turn your head. I've never seen a profile picture so crazy in my life. Look away. Especially for a porn star. You call the cops I'm coming back. I'm coming back. Rape Van Out. Yeah I've seen that guy in porn too. Jesus. So 2011 right around this time is when she does the you shoot video you shoot interviews are you know truthful out of character interviews and wrestling and Sean Oliver who the guy is the guy who runs kfabe commentaries good guy Yeah, real good guy and does a great job if you like wrestling stuff check out his stuff He's got a YouTube channel that where you can find a lot of these interviews. He posts them for free
Starting point is 00:48:01 Check out his stuff, he's got a YouTube channel where you can find a lot of these interviews. He posts them for free. Excellent shit here. Now, they did this, they had several different U-Shoot styles that they did. There was one where there was like a timeline where they go through a whole year and they would give you their reflections
Starting point is 00:48:16 and all sorts of different ones. U-Shoot is one where they sit there and people send in questions over the internet to ask. Oh, live. And it's a wild one too because there's usually like sexual stuff like they have the... Okay. So Reddit ask me anything. Yeah, well then they have certain games like the dick game which is who's got the... When they have chicks who's got the biggest dick in the business of people and they'll
Starting point is 00:48:44 have like different dicks And they'll put them on a chart, you know Dumb shit like that, but that's that's what you shoot is all the other ones are like a little They're not like salacious like that all the other stuff they do But you shoot is kind of like the crazier one of you know, cuz it's okay crowd source So cuz it's why it's wild. Yeah, so unprepared He wrote a book Sean Oliver. It's very entertaining, by the way. Like I said, if you're interested in old school
Starting point is 00:49:07 wrestlers, real personalities, definitely get this book here. It's called, I think, something about K-Fabe. Look him up, Sean Oliver. I've read the book 100 times and don't remember the goddamn name of it. You don't believe in ghosts? I get it. Lots of people don't.
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Starting point is 00:52:23 wildest most honest rip roaring edition of the show our minds was set to be the wildest, most honest rip roaring edition of the show. It was going to be crazy. He said China was always outspoken and had burned a bridge or two. So we were sure she was coming to shoot. And that's these interviews too. That's one thing like a guy who like cares what people in the business think of him is not a good guy to do these interviews.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Because, well, oh. He's gonna hold back. This guy, yeah, what do you think of this guy? Oh, he's a good guy, he's a great guy. He might be able to help him. You want the people who are like, oh, fuck him. Let me tell you something about that asshole. That's entertaining, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:58 So she does that. He said she dated some very high profile wrestlers and appeared on MTV's celebrity reality show the surreal life her struggles with Addiction landed her on VH1 Celebrity rehab she was a big name with lots of crossover. This would be huge and yeah, it's a crossover thing They said she'd also just signed with vivid video to perform in their high profile adult films This was set to be wild. So much so I actually called a meeting with his business partners and said that I thought
Starting point is 00:53:29 this would raise the bar of debauchery so much. I didn't think I'd be able to host this show and even the series any longer. Sean's a real like, like chill guy. Like everyone he's got a suit and tie on and like he's kind of buttoned up like You know and he's funny and shit, but I mean he's not like Dirty filthy guy that's just it would come off weird if he was doing dirty filthy shit because even when he's like You know the dicks he's always like you know what I mean like compare the dicks like I know this is stupid But you know you got to do it. That's what they want. You know Throwing at like I know this is stupid, but you know, you gotta do it That's what they want, you know
Starting point is 00:54:06 Throwing at me. He's much better asking like, you know more fucking deeper questions So he said I wanted to step down from you shoot and let someone do this who would be better suited someone with a wild And unhinged image. It wasn't me in a fucking tie True. He says they- Jim Cornette? Yeah, that's what I mean. Get him, that's what I mean, get somebody like that. They convinced me to do the show and just see how it went, okay?
Starting point is 00:54:32 China was all over the press on TMZ, on all the entertainment shows, so there was no way this would turn out to be bad, even if I was a fly in the ointment during the show. She's gonna say- He did it. She's gonna say crazy enough shit, so he's like, well, he's the only guy that was on camera at that point for the company after that They had Jim Cornett host a series about the territories, which is really good actually
Starting point is 00:54:54 Interviewing people going real in-depth about the old-school territories, but this is you know, otherwise he's the guy who does the interviews So you put somebody else out there? It's not, it's not K-Fabe commentaries, you know what I mean? Like he does it in a way that doesn't make you feel like a jerk off when you're watching it. You know what I mean? So that's the best compliment I can give him. So they said that, I could decide after this,
Starting point is 00:55:18 I thought about it hard and then reluctantly agreed. Joni, China's real name was flying in from Los Angeles, which is a significant flight. He's an East Coast guy, this was in New Jersey or something. She was also delayed on the tarmac for quite a while. We got word she'd be late. We were used to that. That shit happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:35 If you read the book, there's always like, so we started recording at 3.30 in the morning, and you know, like shit like that. These people are incredibly unpredictable. Yeah, and they're always coming in from somewhere. There's like a wrestling convention where they're going to do like 10 interviews over a weekend. And they have them lined up.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But the guys are at the bar getting drunk before their shoot. So like they'll pass out or something. And their life is wild in the first place. They're fucking old school pro wrestlers. So even if they're not wrestling anymore, they're still nuts. They didn't just get a job selling insurance and start getting buttoned down. They're crazy still. So he says, besides Shina arrived at last shortly after midnight, the glamorous star
Starting point is 00:56:15 of triple X film walked into our shoot wearing a baseball cap hoodie over her head and carrying a dog. Oh boy. Not exactly what they were expecting from this. Dressed like Eminem with a dog. carrying a dog. Oh boy. Not exactly what they were expecting from this. Dressed like Eminem with a dog. With a dog. She's dressed like she's going out in Central Park at fucking seven in the morning or something.
Starting point is 00:56:34 And hiding from the paparazzi. She was exhausted. Hey, let's roll those cameras, boys. He's like, this is gonna be great. Oh boy. The show sat still like a languid water buffalo he says Joni wasn't uncooperative or an asshole or anything there was just nothing interesting in her stories or her outlook when an
Starting point is 00:56:55 interview is going like that I have to try to crowbar some shit in there to get reactions or stories I'm telling you worked. I hope she fucked better than she interviewed or else Vivid Video had made the same mistake I did. Oh, thank you. She had just signed the Vivid Deal. Well yeah, you gotta give it in an interview. These interviews, you gotta bring it or else, why is someone gonna pay you for this?
Starting point is 00:57:19 No one wants to watch that. What's the point of being here? We're just gonna be like, si, or asseldwars. Yeah, I mean, you know, he was okay, but, you know, I've watched the fucking shoot. China's boring, she's fucking boring. She just doesn't have a lot of, she doesn't have. Unless you're, yeah, you gotta be a good interview
Starting point is 00:57:35 that leads her around. Yeah, and he is too. I mean, Larry King probably did that. That's the fucked up part, yeah. Sean's really good at getting people who aren't narrative speakers to speak. He's very good at it, but this is. That's the only way you can get her to be a great interview. There's some people where you, you, no matter what you do, they're not giving it back.
Starting point is 00:57:52 It's just the energy was just low energy and it's really hard to do anything about that and not, not, not implying anything, but her past doesn't, uh, lean to that something helping her be yeah, you know subdue exactly Yeah He goes on to say Sean Oliver goes on to say I thought the whole vivid thing was tragic I sat across from Joni as she talked on you shoot of Loneliness and suicide attempts and then talked about her deal to do pornos as a lifesaver This was like finally now. I'm good. Say yeah as a lifesaver. This was like finally, now I'm good.
Starting point is 00:58:26 That industry is loaded with tales of lonely souls who turn there for love and are used up and left emptier than before. When I heard her positioning this as quote the answer, I knew trouble was coming. She was inspired to change her life for sure. She didn't find it in God, she didn't find it in a child's love. She found it in porn Wow, so, you know, yeah That's so shitty now at some point here She ends up in Japan teaching English at some point also
Starting point is 00:59:04 Okay, and there are rumors that she, uh, that she, uh, changed into a Mormon while over there either. Which is very funny because I'm sure she's had a Mormon knock on a door a couple of times. She had to go all the way to Japan for it. That's the longest flight ever to convert to more. I know. That's what I mean. I don't know how true that is. She could have just drove a couple of States over and been fine. I know, that's what I mean. I don't know how true that is. She could have just drove a couple of states over and been fine.
Starting point is 00:59:26 So 2012, she's in, starts her vivid shit here, like a good Mormon girl. She does Avengers XXX, a porn parody. Really? Yes, Avengers XXX. Where she grew? This almost cracked five, point six stars almost almost This is a triple X parody based on the Avengers who was in this Dale de bone. That's a great porn name
Starting point is 00:59:56 Dale de bone he plays Iron Man slash Tony Stark Glendon Crane plays Thor. Bell and Viv didn't get in. China plays She-Hulk. Yeah, okay, not bad. Makes sense. You got Spider-Man in here, you got Bruce Banner, Spider-Woman, there's a regular Hulk,
Starting point is 01:00:23 all sorts of people in here. 2012, China is queen of the ring. This is a porn by the way. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, this is a porn. 6.6 stars out of 10 by the way. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Doing well. These synopsis here, an hour and 43 minutes by the way. Wow. Yeah. China takes on the biggest names of pro wrestling in a gangbang battle royal match What the fuck is that man? It's just dudes probably getting Wow pun names that oh My Vince named dildos after dude this one has they're playing
Starting point is 01:01:01 Wrestlers real wrestlers. Yeah. Yeah, They're at, oh my god, China plays China, the wrestler. Oh. A porn lady named Lisa Ann plays Stephanie McMahon. Oh, Lisa Ann, good for her. Good for her, that's a great role for you, Lee. Good job. Valerie Kay plays a ring announcer, Ron Jeremy is Ron Jeremy, he can't play anybody else.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Alec Sanders plays Ric Flair. Aleksandrs plays Ric Flair. If you would have asked Ric Flair he'd take his dick out for 500 bucks probably you could have got him to do it. Unbelievable. Anthony Hardwood another very good he plays Triple H. Really? Oh yeah. Cyrus King plays Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Evan Stone plays the Hulkster here. Hulk Hogan. Back again. He seems to have a little too much hair for it to play the Hulkster, I would say. We have Justin Magnum playing Bret Hart. Lee Stone, that's the guy with the rape van behind him. Yeah, he's back again.
Starting point is 01:01:59 He plays Vince McMahon, which is appropriate with the van behind him and everything. This is amazing. Marco Banderas, Antonio's long lost brother, I'm sure. He plays Vince McMahon, which is appropriate with the van behind him and everything. This is amazing. Marco Banderas, Antonio's long lost brother I'm sure. He plays the Iron Sheik. Nice! Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Ralph Long plays Doink the Clown. Sledgehammer played by The Rock. TJ Cummings as John Cena. Tommy Pistol as Mean Gene, Oakland. If Mean Gene comes in here and starts pounding her, that's a little weird. And there is a commentator commenting over the whole thing like it's a
Starting point is 01:02:37 wrestling, like it's a battle round. Up he's in her pussy now. Whoa, this is fucking crazy. OK, here is July 2012. This is from a Bleacher Report article. It says when Natasha Bardin arrived at Joni Lohrer's studio apartment in July 2012, she found a man named Steven hiding in the kitchen. Okay, Lohrer told Bardin she'd met the drifter when he called out to Lohrer as she jogged
Starting point is 01:03:03 along the beach a few months earlier What so you you pick up drifters who catcall you while you jog? Evidently that's how this works Wow I didn't think that ever worked Has that ever worked before this might be the first time catcalling worked ever? Or at least looked at like an asshole like guy you fucking dirtbag she was like turned her jog around it was like what's that well broken homeless Stephen told Laura he had followed her career and that she'd been an inspiration Laura offered him a place to stay and now the two were in love. Okay, Joni. What? Joni.
Starting point is 01:03:45 What is going on? Jonathy, we gotta talk. This is, you can't pick up drifters from the beach. No. Who don't have homes, it's just like your, how many people that you pass would go, I liked your career, tons of them, you don't invite them all to move in, that's crazy. Yeah, that's bad. Her friend, Barden says he buttered her up and she fell
Starting point is 01:04:09 for it. Wow. A long time friend Barden had traveled to Redondo Beach from Honolulu that July afternoon sensing trouble. Laura liked to chat on Facebook and through text messages. But by early 2012, her replies had grown slower, more crypt cryptic only saying that she was miserable and stuck Arriving unannounced with her infant daughter as everyone loves to have Drop in with your fucking child, too Barden walked into a 600 square foot apartment with no furniture. That's where China lives Good god That's where China lives. Good God. A blow up mattress without sheets sat in the middle of the living room and dirty clothes
Starting point is 01:04:51 were strewn across the floor. The stench of whiskey was noticeable as soon as Laura opened her door. Eyelids heavy, face drooped, a bottle of Jack Daniels in her right hand. Wow. On her sweater. Oh yeah. On her spaghetti. Oh yeah. What the?
Starting point is 01:05:08 What the fuck? This is a mess, dude. Jesus Christ. That's a fun morning. She's like the singer from Leonard Skinner or some shit. That's how he would wake up, I feel like. This friend said she was chugging it like it was Gatorade. Oh wow. She was beyond drunk. I started crying because I couldn't believe The friend said she was chugging it like it was Gatorade.
Starting point is 01:05:25 She was beyond drunk. I started crying because I couldn't believe the China I knew, the China I idolized, was living like that. I was scared to even let her hold her goddaughter. No! You're going to fall down. Barden walked into the kitchen and found Steven pressed against a wall hoping to go unnoticed. Shirtless and disheveled, he introduced himself as Laura's boyfriend and then fished her debit card out of her purse telling Barden he was going to go quote pick up Jina's medicine.
Starting point is 01:05:56 He finally returned at 7 a.m. the next day with two more bottles of Jack and a wad of 20s from the ATM. Yeah. He sounds like a keeper. of 20s from the ATM. Yeah. Hey, he sounds like a keeper. You don't wanna let him go. He's a prize, this guy. Wow, later, Laura later confided to Barden that Stephen had asked her to marry him when she declined he got a tattoo of a wedding band
Starting point is 01:06:19 inked around his left finger emblazoned with one word, China. Wow, Laura and her new boyfriend shared an email address. Oh my God. What the fuck? They have the same email. That's crazy. She told Barden that Steven had cut chunks
Starting point is 01:06:34 of her long black hair and that he'd also persuaded her to cash in a 401K of about $140,000 and she only had $20,000 left. What a fun guy. Wow, she's got 20 grand left. That's what she's got left in her life. Yeah, and she's got no, wow. The friend says he was controlling her,
Starting point is 01:06:55 he was using her for money and keeping her intoxicated so she wouldn't know the difference. She said she'd seen enough. Quote, you're coming to Hawaii with me and the only answer I'll accept is yes. So the following afternoon Laura boarded a plane to Honolulu needing only two duffel bags to carry all of her belongings. She spent Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas with Barden and her family. She stopped taking Valium and Ambien and only drank in moderation.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Then before New Year's Eve, Steven reached Laura by phone. Wow. Barden said, in an instant she went from a beautiful person who was loving life to fuck it I just want to drink. I feel like, and this goes for a lot of people sometimes the relationships just aren't for people No, and that goes men women everybody and I feel like she well I mean maybe it'd be for her if she picked somebody who was a not a piece of shit Yeah, not contributing. Yeah, like if Triple H didn't decide he wanted to be with Stephanie McMahon. That was decent for her
Starting point is 01:08:02 She see well, yeah, It's a solid guy that has It's not gonna be a push substances on her that's gonna rule She seems to mirror the behavior of whoever she's with so if she's with the scumbag. She's gonna do it, too She does meth with Sean Waltman She drinks bottles of Jack Daniels with this scumbag with Triple H clean as a fucking whistle because he didn't do anything So he she seems to mirror whatever her her love interest does which is weird Laura continued expressing anger court toward the WWE particularly because the company had yet to induct her into its Hall of Fame Barden reminded her that when she walked into a store people screamed her name and
Starting point is 01:08:41 That should be enough her friend said and for Laura though. It wasn't like isn't that enough recognition? Being in the Hall of Fame isn't gonna help you like make a living or anything you know people recognize you That just gives you some sort of cred Yeah, you know legitimizes your and your work I don't and they always with the Hall of Fame comes a quote legends deal Which they you're signed for you have to do like their appearances at their events and it's a salary they give you a couple of bucks and keep you keep you from fucking living in a 600 square foot apartment probably yeah probably can't do that she told
Starting point is 01:09:17 Barden she was ready to take control of her life she wanted to start over she said and to do so she needed to move as far away as possible I mean Hawaii is pretty far. It's the furthest you can go. It's quite a swim. You know what I'm saying? It takes a while to get there. So Laura chose Japan.
Starting point is 01:09:34 That's how she ended up being a Mormon and teaching English. She wrestled there briefly after leaving the WWE and loved the culture and lifestyle. In Japan she told Barden she'd be all alone, free from the drugs and booze, free from the abuse of boyfriends, and free from the social media hounds and gossip rags. By moving to Japan, Laura wouldn't be running from her problems, she'd be confronting them, or at least that was her plan. But we'll see. Another movie comes out here.
Starting point is 01:10:02 2012, Adult Insider 3. It was only 27 minutes long. Another movie comes out here 2012 adult insider 3 It's only 27 minutes long Inside her or no insider. I think this is just an interview because it's it all of them all the girls in it here Allie Hayes Brie Olsen China Jesse Andrews and Stoya are all it all says non-sex under them So I think this is just like a porn discussion. Who the fuck is- Who would watch that?
Starting point is 01:10:30 Who wants to listen to Brie Olsen talk? I don't even know who she is, but I don't- She was the porn star that was rocked up with Charlie Sheen when he was- That's right! Oh, that's who she is, okay, that, now I know. She's a problem. That was right around this yeah. Oh, that's who she is. Okay. That now I know she's a problem. That was right around this time too.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Yeah. 2012. She was a little name going for herself here. 2012 she is in a film called night at the silent movie theater, which is not a porn. No, no, absolutely not. It's her watching mystery science 3000, Charlie Chaplin movie. I think it is. It's a raucous comedy of errors about a singer stuck in a dead-end job who sees his last
Starting point is 01:11:13 best shot at rock stardom threatened by freak accidents, movie theater politics, stressed-out relationship, and a janitor who is much more than he seems. And it's got 7.7 out of 10 on IMDB. Wow, she is so close to 10. She's doing great. That is not bad. I'm looking. This career's killing it.
Starting point is 01:11:32 A lot of these actors, like I've heard their names, but I don't know what they've been in. She plays a sexy drummer. Yeah, I mean. Why not? Sure. I've heard something about that too. She was drunk. There was a
Starting point is 01:11:46 Some story somebody told about her on this set actually that I remember because she was a drummer on the set And I was like that's weird, but I don't remember what the story was but there was some goddamn story so Okay in 2013 here this article talks about Yohei Sato, an independent crude oil trader, our old jobs, Jimmy, who was once Laura's business manager,
Starting point is 01:12:12 was with Laura on the flight to Tokyo in January 2013. He says she reeked of alcohol and was heavily intoxicated when she boarded the plane and was almost removed from the aircraft. Wow. A few weeks later, Sato says Laura called him at 10am and asked him to come to her apartment. When Sato arrived, the door was ajar and Laura was in the living room in a pool of red. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:12:37 She had sliced deep wounds into her forearm, forcing Sato to rush her into the hospital, both of their clothes covered in blood. Oh my god. You can't run from problems, is what that says. You can go there and for a minute when you get there it'll feel good, but then after a week and after all your adrenaline settles, you're still with you. Oh boy. You still got the same problems.
Starting point is 01:12:59 That's horrible, man. Sato says doctors in Tokyo prescribed everything from Xanax to lithium to Ritalin to stabilize her moods, but she regularly ingested more than the prescribed dose. That's just how wrestlers do pills. She said it was obvious she had a mental illness, Sato says, and the drugs only made it worse because they made her hallucinate. She'd call me and say the LAPD was outside her apartment with her ex boyfriend. I'd say China, we're in Japan. The LAPD really has no jurisdiction here for sure. Police arrested China at 2 49 AM one day.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Yeah. After she climbed to the top of a pole outside her residence to the top of a pole Imagine what that crazy shit looked like Wow and screamed loud enough to wake the neighbors When Sato went to pick her up from jail, he says Laura was telling the Japanese officer She was a famous wrestler and that the WWE had cheated her out of money and that she was one of the biggest reasons for the company's success. He says she wanted to make sure everyone knew she'd been a star because that's really all she's ever had. I guess that's what's tough. If that's all
Starting point is 01:14:19 you've ever had, you don't know. About a month later, Sato says 12 police cars responded to a call about a woman walking through the streets of Tokyo with blood streaming from her arms and legs. Now, she could be not bleeding at all and she's a spectacle in Japan. She is. She is taller than the average man over there and she's fucking jacked. There aren't a lot of women who look like her in Japan at all I mean if if I walk around Japan people like holy shit look the size of that guy She's a big jacked-up chick like that is a different thing completely so you're gonna get attention This is crazy as a crowd gathered nearby Yeah, Laura swung a knife at officers as
Starting point is 01:15:08 they approached. In a foreign country. But over there they don't shoot you. It's not like here. Over there they try not to kill the citizens. As a crowd gathered nearby, he said Laura swung a knife at officers as they approached, forcing them to gang tackle her and hold her against the concrete wall until she was handcuffed Gee, that's funny didn't have to pump 46 bullets in or either stuff. It's wild That's I was just gonna say and then the camera showed up Yeah, Laura was admitted to a Tokyo Metropolitan
Starting point is 01:15:48 Sato was admitted to a Tokyo Metropolitan Matsuzawa Hospital, a facility specializing in mental health. She would spend the next month locked up in a confined room, quote unquote. That's, that's not good. That is terrible. Word of the episode spread locally, costing Laura her part-time job teaching English. She landed similar work at a corporate education center, Sato says, only to be fired when a human resource manager walked into a class and witnessed Laura teaching students how to kiss.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Oh boy. At a corporate education, I don't know if that's children or if that's like Imagine you go to corporate training and they're like let me show you had a French kiss than person in the next cubicle come over here Stick your tongue down her throat. There you go. This is team building Wow. I want Larry King to interview her about this Sato says she showed up to work intoxicated. I kept asking her. Why are you doing this China? Why why? but It's not all negative here sure. She's tried to kill herself multiple times Took a fucking swipe at Japanese police officers with a fucking knife I mean sure she's done this and that and you know, she's in these bad movies and she's got a drifter boyfriend She picks up off the beach and all that but she's also
Starting point is 01:17:05 a winner Jimmy. Oh boy. 2013 AVN awards. Oh really? That's right the adult video I guess. News. News? Is that what it is?
Starting point is 01:17:17 Okay there you go. The she is a nominee for most outrageous sex scene in China is Queen of the Ring. I would say that sounded pretty outrageous from what we said. She's a nominee for that, but she wins best celebrity sex tape with Back Door to China. Isn't that so nice of her? That's wonderful. That is great. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:17:41 At least anal pays off in some way, shape or form. That's nice. That's good for her. That's very good for her, I would say. Well, you know what? At least anal pays off in some way, shape, or form. It does. That's nice. That's good for her. That's very good for her, I would say. So yeah, she, I mean, I don't even know what you, do you celebrate this as if, if you're at this place in your life where she is? I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:17:56 I don't know. I feel like she just goes back to her apartment and sits there and hallucinates a different police department. It's Miami this time. Philadelphia's tough, yeah. Yeah. Philadelphia police is outside the SWAT teams there. It's crazy, but she could use some advice, I would say. Sure. From a friend, from somebody.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Anybody. Anybody, and you know who's there for her? Who's that? While she's at her apartment. It's my grandma, that's right! She shows up and knocking at the door and she says... Ma, how is it you come to arrive here? Ma why? Ma why? Ma why you do the tape where they put... Ma come on. Ma the back back door, what's wrong with the front door?
Starting point is 01:18:46 Like a nice, a nice and respectable girl you be. Why you put on, that's no good. My why you do that, you such a, my you beautiful girl. Why you don't have to do that. My why you do that. My you sell yourself so short when you do that. My geek cats, why you do that. The best celebrity, back door, please.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Please, my yeet, my sit down yeet, please. It's very impressive. Now put the bottle down and we eat, okay? Come on, you sit down and then poof, in a cloud of marinara sauce and I would say earth because she's dead, grandma is gone. So there you go, China's very confused now. That's a hallucination. She did not expect
Starting point is 01:19:28 somebody else's grandma attack talking to them talking to her so 2013 she's in she hulk triple x. Oh, that's great. Nice an axle brawn parody And that's six stars out of ten and IMDB. It's very sad that her highest rated IMDB films are porn But I do like that people give them a nice rating here. This is SARS and Shaw China, Gracie Glam, Alexis Ford, which doesn't really sound that porny, Jennifer Dark, okay, you got tattoos and shit probably. Yeah, look at me.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Eric Masterson, Tara Lynn Fox with two Xs of course. Yeah, look at me Eric Masterson Tara Lynn Fox with two exes of course Surprise somebody hasn't done a Jamie Foxx You would have met yeah, you could do with three exes. That'd be perfect Yeah, there it is. You got it another good porn name here Ryan driller That's good Right on the nose speaking of on the nose mark wood. That's that is fucking bullseye Alec Knight and Alan Stafford are in this a lot of do not bad and also a Richie Calhoun and Shiler
Starting point is 01:20:39 Kobe there's like one I guess there's like four or five under the first like six or women so There's okay that makes sense 2013 adult insider 11 Okay, which must be an interview show because everyone on here. No sex 11 Adriana Luna Alexis Ford Allie Hayes ash Hollywood Bonnie rotten okay, Brian Street team Chanel Preston Chris cock Yeah Chanel Preston, Chris Cock, Christian XXX, China, Danny Mountain, Eric Masterson, Gracie Glam, James Dean, Jaden James, Jennifer Dark, John Stagliano, Christina Rose, Lexi Swallow,
Starting point is 01:21:19 again, on the nose, and Lola Fox XX. So that's what she's in there. Next up, she is in White Tea, a movie. This is a non-porn, so it's 3.7 stars out of 10 on IMDB. There you go, it's an hour, 34 minutes. It's a bad movie. The cover is two enormous young black gentlemen here. I mean, absolutely 500 pounds each.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Is that Wheezy from fucking old school, the big fat black kid? I couldn't tell from here. We'll find out. I think it is, it's supposed to be. It looks like it. So the description here, okay. Herbert and Henry, Jared and Jamal Mixon.
Starting point is 01:21:58 So are those the twins from that, or the brothers from that? I guess. Are twin brothers who dream of becoming the biggest rap stars in the game. Their chance at superstardom comes after they buy a t-shirt with a winning golden tag that allows them to perform for Real Deal, the most legendary rapper in the world. However, Kevin, a Jewish kid their same size with dreams of singing and blinging, singing and blinging, manages to steal their prized white tea and has his own plans to perform at the concert.
Starting point is 01:22:31 With help from a gypsy, a goat, and a cast of characters as big as Herbert and Henry's appetites, white tea is a feel-good urban adventure reminiscent of Dude Wears My Car, and Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, and Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. You like all those movies? And seven. And you'll hate this. It has, I mean, Jesus Christ, we got the mix-ins there. It is wheezy from old school.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Okay, yeah. Yeah, tweezy. Eric Roberts is in this. Yeah? Yeah, which is wild. I mean, he'll take anything. I mean, but he's like an accomplished like he's a good actor Dion Sanders is in this yeah, he'll take he'll take whatever
Starting point is 01:23:12 Phase on love of course he's in everything Tony Cox. He's a little guy. I think he's a the bad Santa one Okay, little guy there the guy okay the little okay the guy from how many black midgets get work at movies You know the same yes, he's one of these the guy he's the guy he's the one Tone loke of course who else we got here China plays a psychic There you go, I mean this is essentially this is essentially fat boys remember them oh yeah fucking disorderly great Yeah, disorderly. Oh, yeah fucking disorderly great. Yeah, oh my god What a move just added to HBO Max by the way stop it. I'm fucking watching it just that and I saw it on the just
Starting point is 01:23:56 Love the like always get out of these. Yeah, just gave up. That's fucking hilarious That's basically what this is trying to do hoo hoo hoo. That shit was so rad. That shit was, I loved it. I loved it when I was a kid. That's basically what this is trying to do. I mean, it's just exploiting three fat guys. That's fat guys. Ha ha ha. It's fat guys. It's the clumps where you don't have to put them
Starting point is 01:24:14 in fat suits. It's great. Yeah, they're already fat for us. They're already all good and fat for us. I love when they, when they're eating sprouts and he's like, he's just eating a shit load of them. Ha ha ha, tons and tons. Just pushing so much food. He's like, he's just eating a shitload of them. Tons and tons.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Just pushing so much food, he's like, what is that, sprouts? It makes it healthy, all right, okay. Oh God. So Sato, the Japanese guy there, tried to help Laura in 2014 by introducing her to members of the Mormon Church. That's how this happened. Yeah. She was baptized on April 6th of that year
Starting point is 01:24:48 and joined a women's service organization. They said, still unable to find steady work and with few friends, Joni never achieved inner peace that she sought in Japan. Alcohol and drugs and all that kind of, she never got over everything, her mental issues. That's, she's the type of person where it's like you needed to You needed to deal with her mental problems that she had from from before anything
Starting point is 01:25:12 But before fame or anything else and then go from there and it's like we got to do like triage of like, okay Well, first of all, she's a hardcore alcoholic. Let's deal with that first right now and Save her life and then we'll figure it out. Yeah, that's what I mean so they said that uh Cradling her chihuahua horn each night in her tiny apartment Laura documented her feelings in short videos on her flip phone One of them it's dark and it's cold and I just want to get out of here. How am I gonna get out of here? That's depressing man. Um, I mean you gotta kind of, you gotta, it's hard. If you're a human being, you gotta feel bad for her
Starting point is 01:25:48 because she doesn't hurt other people. She's not a person who hurts other people, generally. And she did punch Sean Waltman or whatever, but that relationship was crazy, I don't know. She doesn't go out and hurt strangers. Everything is inward. I'll cut myself, I'll take pills, I'll ruin myself. That's how she does this.
Starting point is 01:26:06 So there's no way to not feel bad for her. She's not like, oh, well you're a scumbag, you're out there raping people, what do you want? That's not her, you know what I mean? So gotta kinda feel bad for her, I'll say, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Joni Lohr, who is unemployed. Why are you on LinkedIn, I guess to get a job.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Yeah, what are you, yeah, yeah, I guess you're looking for work. In Donegal, Ireland here. And of course, there is, this is interesting, from 2004 from a Cleveland Plain Dealer article, alcohol killed baby who died in October. Police are trying to find out who gave alcohol to Chyna Reese and spelled see why or chyna
Starting point is 01:26:46 They named this baby after her had to they absolutely did her death was ruled a homicide last week So I definitely feel worse for this China because she's a murdered baby Yeah, that's pretty crazy. I guess somebody gave her booze and China see a beauty therapist. Oh my God. London College of Beauty Therapy in London, England. She does threading, gel manicure and pedicure, gel extension, standard polish manicure, pedicure,
Starting point is 01:27:16 piercing, waxing, tinting, makeup, and facials. Everything. She'll do it all, baby. Okay, 2015. An email marked urgent arrives in Dr. Drew's mailbox on November 8th 2015 at 708. Any urgent thing to Dr. Drew is probably bad. And it's gonna be bad. And it read I have a very serious issue regarding our old friend China. If she doesn't get help ASAP, she will die. The pills, the booze, it's bad.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Okay. The message to Pinsky, who had counseled Laura when she appeared on his reality celebrity show in 2008, was written by Anthony Anzaldo, the former manager Laura had contacted the previous June when she was ready to leave Japan. Anzaldo had spent the last five months chronicling Laura's life on film for a documentary called The Reconstruction of China, the footage for which had been gone immediately after she stepped off the plane. Does anyone remember who I am?
Starting point is 01:28:19 Laura said as the two left New York's JFK airport, a backpack her only piece of luggage. Show me that people still care. That's all she needs, wants love. All she ever wants is love. From people, from the audience. You can't get into showbiz because you need love. No. You're never going to be happy.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Oh boy, are you going to be sadly mistaken, heartbroken. You can't fix yourself from that. No, no, no, no. From people admiring you. And she's looking for that as a thing, and that is not, you gotta do this because you're using it to support your family. That's the only reason for it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Show me people still care. And Zaldo drove Laura into Manhattan where she was mobbed by autograph seekers as she passed through Times Square times square yeah she's recognizable as fuck very very much yeah a few days later fans at the college world series in omaha nebraska chanted her name china china as she took her seat behind the first base dugout people recognize it while laura arrived at planet hollywood and las vegas for a celebrity poker tournament to raise money for cystic
Starting point is 01:29:24 fibrosis one of the benefactors a young man confined to a scooter was so moved by her presence that he burst into tears. And Zaldo said she needed that feeling of acceptance again, she hasn't set foot in a ring in 15 years and she was more famous than ever. And the timing of that, here's the thing too, that really sucks for her. The last like five years have been a monstrous boom in the old wrestler careers, because there's been so many more conventions
Starting point is 01:29:56 and they get invited to all the Comic-Cons. These guys have been able to kind of make a good supplemental living off of this now, then she missed that. This was just the beginning of the cusp of that like, hey, remember 15 years ago how great that was? I was, this is just when that started. So as happy as they were to see her back in the United States, Laura's friends, former
Starting point is 01:30:18 colleagues worried that she may be embarking on too much too quickly. They feared she'd be overwhelmed by the documentary, the constant travel for signings, and the campaign for the WWE Hall of Fame. Blaze, remember her first boyfriend, the workout guy? Blaze or whatever, who reconnected with Lors, says she was, quote, trying to find the magic again. Mick Foley sensed it too as they ate dinner and watched WWE pay per view at his home in Long Island, New York.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Well that's nice Mick invited her over. It's definitely a lot of wrestlers something a lot of wrestlers encounter once their career is over he says. It's an identity issue. You don't know what to do next. You try to find ways to make an impact in other areas the same way you did in the ring but it's difficult. It's an incredible feeling that you can't replace. Starting with an interview on the Opie and Anthony radio show
Starting point is 01:31:08 just days after her return from Japan, that must have been, I'm sure, very high brow. Incredibly welcoming. Not at all about how much she can fit in her asshole. Laura began lashing out at the WWE to anyone who would listen, spreading the narrative once again that the company had released her back in 2001. A few weeks later, with Anzaldo's camera rolling, Lori showed up at the organization's
Starting point is 01:31:30 corporate office in Stanford, Connecticut to inquire about money she felt it owed her. They didn't make it past the receptionist's desk before security guards escorted them out. There were times when we thought she had put it past her but she kept reverting back to it. She blamed the WWE for a lot of stuff. This is the thing, if it's 15 years ago by now it doesn't even fucking matter anymore. That might be true but it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Who cares? During stretches of sobriety she routinely left flowers on her landlord's doorstep and she loved interacting with her followers on social media. When a fan in an autograph show noticed the scars on her arms and revealed that he too was a cutter, Laura gave him her phone number encouraging him to call if he ever needed to talk. I wouldn't be surprised if a month later she was living on her couch.
Starting point is 01:32:21 At the August 2015 funeral for Rowdy Roddy Piper, Laura came face to face with Triple H for the first time since her departure from WWE. Earlier in the year on a podcast, Lavesque had suggested that Laura's appearances in porn films may keep her out of the Hall of Fame. Oh yeah, because there were a real high degree of moral... Are you joking? The moral code that they adhere to. What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:32:51 Isn't Shawn Michaels in the Hall of Fame? He has admitted on film 20 different times about how they used to give fucking drug women in bars and then drag them back to their hotels and rape them. What are you talking about? He'd give them halcyons, they'd say, and then shave their fucking heads after they fuck them and dump them in the hallway naked. But you know, she took it in the ass. So you know, what about Xbox?
Starting point is 01:33:16 Does that keep him out? It seems so. Yeah, I would hope so. Anyway, Laura still wrapped her arms around her ex-boyfriend and hugged him tightly. I'm sorry all of this has happened, she whispered. Laura recommitted herself to fitness, drinking smoothies and protein shakes multiple times a day while stocking her pantry with vitamins. Muscle toning classes at cardio bear bar and stretching sessions at hot yoga became regular
Starting point is 01:33:41 staples. As cameras rolled for E's plastic surgery reality show botched, Laura had scars on her breast and her waist removed for good. I have all of these appearances coming up, her yoga instructor Kimberly Shrednick remembers Laura saying. I don't know, I know I can't look exactly like I did, but I still want to look like me, I still want to look like Chyna. Yet as motivated as Laura often appeared, her life continued to resemble a ladder match
Starting point is 01:34:06 for the WWE title belt. Each time she neared the top of the steps and reached the further reward dangling above, her addictions to fame, drugs to darkness set Chyna tumbling back down. And Zaldo said, quote, she was a binger. She'd go months without touching drugs and alcohol, then go crazy on it for nine or ten days. It was one or extreme or the other. That's a lot of people have that.
Starting point is 01:34:30 That's tough, man. It wasn't uncommon for Laura to take multiple doses of Valium and Ambien each day, often chasing them with a nine dollar bottle of wine called Barefoot Bubbly. Jesus. Yikes. Headache. Headache medicine. Well, I guess that's why you're taking all the other shit. Jesus, yikes, headache medicine.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Well, I guess that's why you're taking all the other shit. Even though he hadn't seen Laura in more than a decade, Waltman continued to hear stories of her drunken episodes from friends. He said he contacted the WWE and the company agreed to provide funding for Laura to enter a rehabilitation facility, but Laura, through intermediaries, refused help, Waltman said.
Starting point is 01:35:04 The email from her manager, Depinsky, came after Laura was found unconscious in front of her apartment in November of 2015 Resulting in her arrest for public intoxication Yeah, Laura who had nearly twenty thousand dollars in her purse from an autograph signing the previous weekend Just carrying it around with her Passed out in public. Fuck man. Told police. Who's robbing her though? If she wakes up, I am fucked. I'm in a lot of trouble here.
Starting point is 01:35:34 You gotta be robbing her like in a cartoon. You gotta make sure that she's still snoring. Don't make any noise. You like get a string from the ceiling and come and take it that way Wow she told police she'd been unable to find her keys this March just just said I'm tired this March and Zaldo says Canadian border agents in Windsor Ontario ordered him
Starting point is 01:36:04 and Laura out of his car when she noticeably car when she was noticeably inebriated as the two attempted to cross into the country from Detroit. Back home, members of Laura's social media team routinely removed drunken rants from YouTube and Twitter. Her sister says, I checked the internet every day just to see if Joni was alive. Anzaldo had spent many months trying to convince Laura to rekindle her relationship with her mother Janet, who lives in Hendersonville, North Carolina. The two had already been emailing and they eventually agreed to meet in Charlotte while Laura was in town for an autograph show in March. But just before they were scheduled to reunite,
Starting point is 01:36:48 Anzaldo said Laura became intoxicated and sent Janet, her mother, a long offensive email spewing, her manager called it. Just all the shit, this is what you did to me. Unloading everything. She gets fucked up and then she has vitriol at the things she believes cause this and she lashes out at them.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Man, rattled by the message, Janet called Enzaldo on a Friday afternoon and backed out of the meeting. Laura was irate. She tipped a maid to sneak bottles of wine into her room at the Sheraton and spent the night drinking in the hotel, causing her to be an hour late for her signing the next day and Zaldo passed her altoids under the autograph table hoping to mask her condition from fans your breath Yeah, Laura refused to speak to him that Saturday and they sat apart on the flight home to Los Angeles the following morning Five days later Laura no showed an autograph signing in Dallas before WrestleMania 32, which is a, those are the huge ones.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Those ones right around there are decision. Enzaldo says cost her $25,000, which she could use. Laura claimed she backed out because Vince McMahon and Sean Waltman planned to have her arrested as soon as she walked off the runway at DFW. I don't know what for. For what? I don't know that Sean Waltman, who by the way has had plenty of his own legal problems. Yeah, and I don't know if it, I don't know if-
Starting point is 01:38:12 I don't think Vince cares. McMahon has much poll in Dallas. He probably might, but not on WrestleMania weekend. He's busy. Yeah, who gives a shit. That's a busy weekend for them. That's the busiest weekend. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:23 On the morning of Sunday, April 17th, and what would mark her final form of communication, Laura posted a 13-minute, six-second video on YouTube that has been viewed over two million times and it's a mess. A feather dangling from her hair, Laura guzzled an orange energy drink, a glass of water, and a spinach smoothie. Oh, she. Three things, just pushing it in her body. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:51 She rambled about a health food delivery business she hoped to start and then stepped onto her balcony where she complained about the whistles and cat calls she often heard from construction workers. Then she said, I'm just kidding. I love it. Laura gazed toward the beach across the street where surfers rode waves on the ocean and said, quote, it looks like it's going to be a gorgeous day out there. How lucky am I?
Starting point is 01:39:16 So unbeknownst to her, her friends had planned to confront her that week about her substance abuse on a TV show called Intervention. Oh, they're doing that? on a TV show called Intervention. Oh, they're doing that? Yes. Taking her on Intervention? Yes. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:39:31 But when a cameraman called her on Monday, she didn't answer the phone. Voicemails and texts the next day weren't returned, and there were no posts from her social media, her at China, Joni Lohr. Concern, Anzaldo drove to Lohr's apartment on Avenue B and Esplanade around 3.30 p.m. that Wednesday, sneaking past her security gate with the mailman
Starting point is 01:39:51 after her landlord refused to buzz him in. Stepping off the elevator onto the fourth floor, Anzaldo approached the apartment 407 and knocked on the door, no answer, rang the bell, nothing. If the door is unlocked, he thought to himself it means she's home. His cell phone camera focused in his hand and Zaldo reached for the knob, twisted it and stepped into the entryway and immediately noticed an odor. It was the smell of death, he said.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Oh my god, he filmed it? I think just in case so nobody would blame him for something. Yeah, just in case it was something crazy. Yeah. You never know. You don't want to. That makes sense. That's why the cops do it. Yeah. That's why they film the crime scenes. So he walked past the bathroom and kitchen and turned into the den. Turning to his left, the manager looked through the open doorway of the bedroom, lying on her right side and tucked neatly under a white down comforter. Laura appeared to be sleeping peacefully. And Zaldo could see the top of her forehead, but a pillow obstructed the view of her face.
Starting point is 01:40:53 He lifted it away. There was no vomit, no blood. Her eyes were open. She was staring straight ahead. Oh Jesus, no! She's dead. Yep. Staring at you.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Staring. Oh staring at staring. Oh That's horrifying two pill bottles rested on a nightstand next to her bed although toxicology reports weren't released yet He believed it was an accidental overdose of Valium and and Valium and Ambien because she took it all the time He says he doesn't think it was a suicide. He said she didn't want to die That is rough. She's only 45 Wow He doesn't think it was a suicide. He said she didn't want to die. That is rough. She's only 45. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:28 40 fucking 5. That is fucking sad, man. So young. That is really, really terrible. A message to her Facebook page said, it is with deep sadness to inform you today that we lost a true icon, a real life superhero. Joni Lohr, aka China, the ninth wonder of the world has passed away She will live forever in the memories of millions of fans and all of us that loved her
Starting point is 01:41:55 Stephanie McMahon tweeted she was truly a pioneer in our industry and she will be missed And I'll enjoy fucking her ex-boyfriend that I stole from her for a long time in the future while we keep having children So yeah, that's that's tough man So they said on on the one fan wrote China was a very important part of my childhood somehow part of life Yeah, that happens a lot of people wrote about how they met her and were she was kind to them and all that kind of thing And that's how she was she wasn them and all that kind of thing. That's how she was, she wasn't a mean person. She just had a problem.
Starting point is 01:42:28 TMZ cameras captured her body as it was wheeled toward an ambulance as well. That's really, that's a nice business model to have. And Zaldo contacted her family, friends, and close, our family members and close friends then posted the news on her official website, thereal real china.com her sister said all I kept thinking after she died was that poor girl she wanted so
Starting point is 01:42:50 badly to be loved and accepted but she never had a loving connective relationship with anybody people just used her and sucked her dry at least now she's at peace at least she's at peace so yeah. Yeah terrible way to phrase that, but okay. Why do they always do it? Every single person does it. Every single fucking person does it. Small town murder.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Why do that? It's every time. They can't help it. It's crazy. They say these words that are definitely in the wrong spot here. So the day following her death, the post on wwe.com expressed sadness about it and featured a video of her winning the women's championship. They said after years without acknowledging her,
Starting point is 01:43:34 WWE played a posthumous tribute video on the April 25th episode of Raw. You know, I haven't mentioned her in 15 years, but we can get a rating out of this. People will watch this shit. Let's talk about it. Man, a short memorial article was also published on Howard Stern's official website,
Starting point is 01:43:50 lamenting her death and describing her as a fan favorite with a great sense of humor about herself. Mike Mooneyham of The Post and Courier stated that after China's death, it was, quote, an oft-asked question as to when she would be inducted into the Hall of Fame of WWE. Jim Ross said that China quote an oft asked question as to when she would be inducted into the Hall of Fame of WWE Jim Ross said that China had an overwhelming desire to be inducted during her lifetime here on June or February 9th 2015 during a WWE Network podcast with Stone Cold Steve Austin
Starting point is 01:44:18 Triple H mentioned that she deserved to be in the Hall of Fame But that her career in porn might prohibit it. It might overshadow it. In interviews shortly after her death, Triple H said that she's definitely warranted a place in the Hall of Fame and Stephanie McMahon said she was sure China would be inducted but didn't know what year it would happen. Two months after her death, no family members traveled to Redondo Beach for her public memorial service on June 22nd or her burial the next morning.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Jesus, that's fucking sad. Dude, that's just sad. That is depressing, man. Nobody showed up. Fuck, dude. Instead, as the ashes of the most famous female pro wrestler in history danced away in the Pacific, her mourners included the manager and his four children, an ex boyfriend she hadn't seen in 11 years,
Starting point is 01:45:10 a rented preacher reciting a prayer off a wrinkled note card and two members of her social media team. She'd never met. Never even met them. That's who's, that's who's there. The people that answer my DMS Man that is fucking Heartbreaking I wish I'd have known I'd have gone to that. I know shit. That's sad To be the only person that anybody on this show recognizes that is Jimmy with yeah. Hey there. He is hey Yeah, nice to see you. That's fucked up. Sean Waltman, he wasn't there for that, for the burial,
Starting point is 01:45:49 but he must have been here for some sort of memorial service here. To see if there's any money left. Anything, anything at all. The June 22nd memorial service, he showed up and said, I'm sure people are probably wondering what the hell I'm doing here. He spoke for almost six minutes, and he said, I wanna say in front of everyone that Joni, I'm doing here. He spoke for almost six minutes and he said,
Starting point is 01:46:06 I want to say in front of everyone that, Joni, I'm really, really sorry. I hope you forgive me for not taking better care of you. He said a few hours later over a slice of pepperoni pizza at the Rainbow Bar and Grill in Hollywood, Waltman seems shaken still. He said, I should have left her in a better shape, but I didn. And now she's dead. I feel so fucking bad about that. As awful as it sounds in my heart, I knew this is how it would end. That's sad too. And Walman's the type of guy when you hear his stuff, he's always just like, if he fucks up, he's like, I fucked that up bad.
Starting point is 01:46:36 I'm a fucking idiot for that. Like he's not a guy who blames anybody else or anything like that. Uh, she did on Howard Stern call her second tape with him a rape tape. Which Sean Oliver then called Howard Stern to argue with her about, because he said, that's funny, you talked to me on the You Shoot China about it,
Starting point is 01:46:55 never said a word that it was a rape tape, and that was a month ago. What are you talking about? So that was a thing. They said, the rest of the official remembrance of China often felt more like a production. Tickets were distributed and t-shirts were sold than a memorial.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Yeah, cause this is not the, like her private one. This is a public one. Coolio performed. Okay. Why does he keep doing this? Barry Williams, who is Greg Brady from the Brady Bunch was there. As were Flick from A Christmas
Starting point is 01:47:26 Story. What the fuck? Weird. What? Gathering of people is this. And Joey Budafuco, who defeated Laura in a celebrity. He's like, I showed up the puncher again. I'm just, I'm upset.
Starting point is 01:47:36 She's in a box and I can't. Inside the memorial were more, inside the memorial was more about who wasn't there. Only about 400 people showed up to pay tribute to a woman who once wrestled before a crowd of 68,000. Laura's mother and siblings chose not to make the trip west. The WWE did not send any representatives. Other than Waltman, the only notable wrestlers in attendance were former stars Melina and Rob Van Dam, both of nearby Los Angeles and neither of whom
Starting point is 01:48:05 ever worked with China. Fuck, the following day after Anzaldo had dumped the last of China's remains into the Pacific Ocean and laid the hot pink urn to rest, a flock of dolphins approached the boat on either side. All 14 passengers hurried toward the railing with their cameras, gasping as they recorded the mammals jumping in and out of the water and wondering perhaps if this was China's way of giving them one final memory one last show. The documentary's videographer said China would have loved this. It's like they're leading her into her new life. Minutes later as the mourners gathered their belongings and stepped into the
Starting point is 01:48:39 onto the dock someone asked asked if the yacht had a name. Smiling gently, the captain nodded. The disappearance, he said. Halfway across the country in New Hampshire, Laura's sister wasn't sure what to make of that title. China may have vanished into the ocean that day, she said, but Joni disappeared a long time ago. So December 22nd, 2016, the autopsy report comes out here. Los Angeles County Coroner's Office autopsy report obtained by E-News found traces of
Starting point is 01:49:11 painkillers oxycodone, oxymorphone, and the anti-anxiety medication Valium, muscle relaxant nordeazepam, and the sleeping pill timazepam. As well as ethanol, AKA alcohol, found in her system. So she was taking one, two, three, four, five pills and drinking. Oh my God. Can't do that. And taking like, very fucking strong ones. Yeah, you go to sleep and you don't wake up
Starting point is 01:49:42 is what happens if you do that. That's brutal, man. So the coroner's report also said they had found inside a nightstand in her bedroom multiple bottles of prescription medications and an empty blister pack and two peach tablets on the floor. They also found a blue tablet and a medication container
Starting point is 01:49:59 in the dining room. Nobody, this is all this shit. Man, that's crazy. They said that she would, her manager said she would self-medicate with alcohol when the meds were not enough. Once I noticed she was over-medicating, I knew it was out of my hands, he said. There was no other way to do it than an intervention. He reached out to A&E and said that it was going to be that week they were doing it. He said the shooting of, she was shooting her documentary, at times it was stressful, but she was doing okay,
Starting point is 01:50:28 she was doing yoga and a lot of amazing things. Yeah, so that's sad. Her brain was donated to science to study the effects of CTE as well, which that's good. However, the brain had naturally decomposed to a point where it could not be definitely determined because she was in there for three days decomposing. February 18th, 2019, China is announced as an inductee
Starting point is 01:50:54 into the WWE Hall of Fame class of 2019. Oh, yes, as part of Degeneration X, all of them as one. Triple H, that's Triple H, and Shawn Michaels and Waltman and all of them. Levesque spoke to ESPN of the complexities he mentioned in the 2015 podcast, but after describing her in-ring accomplishments, said 100% deserves the honor.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Although she was being inducted as part of a group, Triple H said that she deserved to be inducted a second time as well for her individual career. Shawn Michaels also endorsed that idea, stating, of all the people in this group and Degeneration X as a whole is deserving, but I don't think there's anybody that would argue China's not the most deserving of an induction.
Starting point is 01:51:34 She was a big fucking deal, man. I wouldn't say she is not, yeah, she's definitely deserving. She deserves that for sure. I mean fucking Coco Beware is in there. Are you joking? You know what I mean? There's a lot of bad guys in there. Not that he's a bad guy, he's just a fucking opening match, lower mid card tops guy.
Starting point is 01:51:54 He's in the fucking Hall of Fame. We've done a lot of stories about a lot of bad guys. Yeah, no shit. So August 14, 2019, mother of China threatens to sue Autopsy, the show Autopsy, on her death here. The mother here, she's trying to stop the television network reels from airing an upcoming episode of the new docuseries Autopsy, The Last Hours Of,
Starting point is 01:52:22 where they do like a last day, I've seen the ads for it, which promises to reveal the truth about the former wrestler's death. Her mom said, I'm not too happy about this to say the least. Whatever happened in her last hours is just that, supposition and conjecture. Not the truth as no one knows it. Not the truth as no one knows that, not even me. I don't know why so many people would be continued to be fascinated with the dark side and the end of Joni's life rather than the positives about her life and pretend that they know the truth about what happened and have the need to drag
Starting point is 01:52:52 me, her mother, and my family through all this dark conjecture over and over again." That's fair. She then said, it's just another way to cash in on her death. Appalling to me. Leave the girl and her family alone. Yeah, that'd be nice. The synopsis for the August 25th episode of Autopsy that focuses on her reads as this, on April 20th, 2016, professional wrestling legend, Chyna died from an overdose in her Los Angeles apartment. Once celebrated as the ninth wonder of the world, China's life unraveled as she left WWE and became infamous as a casualty of drug and alcohol abuse.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Okay. They say the coroner and forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Hunter says after a four-year mysterious long exile in Japan, China returned to the to the US, intent on reinventing herself, only to die nine months later at the age of just 46. Wow, okay. So, yeah, that's just, they don't even, I mean, we're talking about her too, but we're trying to give humanity and context and the whole thing. Yeah, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:53:59 We're not just like, here's how she fucked up she was the last day of her life. It's more biographical. Yes You know describes of why she why she's relevant and important an important person and yeah also Why it went bad? Yeah, how it went bad? What the fuck have some what manatee for the how'd you fall from grace? Yeah, yeah, they said I expect a contact She I get the mother said she told them she expected a contact immediately back staying that you won't be airing the program But yeah
Starting point is 01:54:31 She's threatening to sue and all this and everyone and everyone connected with this including these supposed friends that they interviewed to produce whatever they've produced Needs to be put on notice warmed and informed that I'm going to take legal action on this You can't sue someone for talking to a documentary is the problem. That's not, they're not part of that. How crazy is it that the worst thing that happened to her was when she quit? Yeah, yeah, totally.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Damn it. She said, and that includes Kerry, which I think is her sister. Yeah? She said, I have informed Kerry publicly on her Facebook page that she needs to inform those who have had a part to play In making of this film China's mom blamed the emotional distress
Starting point is 01:55:09 Therefore physical distress that the show's existence has caused her not to mention not giving anyone else clearance to use any of their daughter's likenesses Or private medical information that's kind of public after a while She cited an old-school social media post that Newton made while filming the autopsy episode in which she claimed to have had a Blast on set she had a blast filming it how morbid and disgusting is that? How could you have a blast portraying a human being who died so tragically? I guess that's the person who played her Yeah, how can you even consider taking on the role of playing her without checking with your lawyers? Whether or not it was cleared by the estate because that's not your job as an actor You go there's an audition you go for you don't go. What's the status of the clearance with the estate on your fucking actor?
Starting point is 01:55:55 How's the family feel? Yeah You're what she's making scale 700 fucking dollars and leave her alone We got a green light fucking fucking, and take two. An actor has no idea how any of that works, and if they ask, it's a really good way not to get hired, because they're like, who the fuck are you asking about our clearances, don't worry about that. Not your problem.
Starting point is 01:56:15 So they said that it's just unbelievable. If you continue on with this and defame China or tarnish her legacy in any way, you're really opening yourself up to defamation, not to mention personal and emotional Duress on the part of myself and her family because of what you're doing. She doesn't know laws very well I don't think that lady none of that is Legally anything is not pertinent to this now
Starting point is 01:56:37 reps for reals wouldn't immediately comment on this a Spokesperson offered a statement to Wrestling Sheet but refused to mention China or her mother directly. It said, Autopsy, the last hours of, responsibly explores the circumstances of the passing of well-known and genuinely loved celebrities who the public cares about immensely. The real series generates much feedback from our viewers ranging from fans who tell us it provides closure, medical professionals who praise its scientific accuracy,
Starting point is 01:57:08 and many who gain helpful perspective of health issues that might not otherwise receive attention like Karen Carpenter, who brought anorexia into the public consciousness. And more recently, with Prince who's passing focused attention on the opioid epidemic epidemic. So April 20th, 2017 on the anniversary of her death, mind you, a trailer was released for Wrestling with China, a special documentary featuring China's life from almost her very beginning
Starting point is 01:57:34 to after she left the wrestling business to her last days of life. Vice TV aired it in 2021 with the exclusive interviews from friends and family members and her manager. So her mom got a check for that one, good for her. with the exclusive interviews from friends and family members and her manager. So her mom got a check for that one. Good for her. So net worth here is...
Starting point is 01:57:51 Oh boy. Yeah. Well, they say when you look up net worths, they're never right. Yeah. On the internet, they're like, she had a net worth of about 500,000 at her death. I don't think so. I don't think so. No.
Starting point is 01:58:03 That is, that's fucking crazy. So can't get enough of China? People can't get enough. I don't think so. No That is that's fucking crazy. So can't get enough of China People can't get enough. You can't get enough. It's all we have for it, but you can get a China signed Fleer WWF WrestleMania wrestling divas autograph card here. Oh, and it's her Here's the picture of it here. I don't know what year it's. Oh, yeah Yeah, no, it's $200 or best offer
Starting point is 01:58:29 Then China Mattel elite action figure legend series degeneration X, which is a cool figure actually Yeah, oh wow. It's only $18 and 39 cents. Is that right? It looks big to her hands. Yeah, she got a cock-jerk in hands they gave her like a, I know it's to hold things like a GI Joe. Looks like she can fucking reenact Queen of the Ring. Yeah, her kung fu grip is solid. It looks like. Golly.
Starting point is 01:58:56 And then finally. That's a big action figure dick that fits in there. It does. Yeah. Big old action figure cock. She needs one of those porn cocks to fit that. And you can get the WWF WWE China Fitness More Than Meets the Eye VHS video geared for all fitness levels. There it is. There it is. And be fit like her. That is $9.94 or best offer. So pretty inexpensive there. You can find your VCR in an attic somewhere, you got it.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Break that back out, see if we can find a VCR repairman to fix it. Why not? So anyway, there you go everybody. Wow. That is China. Finished it up a... Discovered deceased staring at you. That's horrifying. That's crazy. Nobody knows that. That's fucking horrifying, isn't it man the worst so yeah this is a sad story obviously I
Starting point is 01:59:50 mean it's sad it's a it's good for a while this is the ultimate like this story needed three parts because her life is in three acts there is yeah there is like opening and I'm a wrestling star. Yeah, that's one spot Right. Yeah, then you got the middle ground which is I'm trying to figure out who I am outside of wrestling I'm trying to act I'm trying to do this and I did a little porn and then there's the Yeah, and the victim of the Initial I guess swing and phase and fame of the yeah Reality show exactly. Yeah, you know what I mean? and she's a victim of it really Oh totally people wanted more
Starting point is 02:00:30 Yeah, that they wanted more, you know gossip and things of that nature It's very fucking said then the third part was just I mean from the beginning of this on it was just all bad bad bad We started out with her saying I'm doing better. I'm good Now was the first thing she said and then went downhill from there act 3 recovering from being a victim of reality Fuck man. Yeah, it's brutal. So Brutal stuff here. So if you enjoy that show, please tell the goddamn world about it a three-part China series a lot to put together Where do you see the evil can hear can evil thing? Oh I don't even know how many parts it's gonna be, a bunch, because it's the craziest fucking story
Starting point is 02:01:07 I've ever heard in my life. It's a wild family. Literally, he's the craziest person I've ever heard of. That I've ever read a lot about. Murderers, everything else included. No one's as insane as this person. He's crazy, so I can't wait to get into this. Every minute is like, here's another crazy thing he did.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Even when we do stats of an athlete Oh, he played you know in 12 games this year His stats are then he tried to jump a fucking canyon with a motorcycle and crashed That's that's the most boring it gets is him Flying hundreds of putting it back together almost get killed. Yeah crazy shit So we'll get all into all. Tell your friends about it. Post on whatever, or post on social media, whatever app you're on. Give five stars.
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Starting point is 02:02:33 But the other thing you get with patreon the important part is you get a shout out at the end of the show and that comes Right now Jimmy hit me with the names of the people who I never want to find staring at me dead. Hit me with them right now. This was executive producer Gary Howard, Tyler Holmes, Matthew Britt, Vanessa Thompson, second place in the fantasy league. Wow. Cottage, classic docs, I'm not sure what that is.
Starting point is 02:02:58 I imagine if you Google it you'll find out. Jake Adronia probably, it's a G and A. I don't know a dranya a dragnet It's a dranya right. Yeah, probably yeah, yeah gangsters moving silent like lasagna like lasagna Jeez yeah, all right Meadows other producers this week Peyton Meadows Beth Bowie happy hour in Midland, Texas back home I think Janice, Elizabeth Cracknell, Stacy Clement, Brea, Brea Weeks, D Money, that a kid. Ellen Torque, Torque, T-O-R-K-E, that's Torque, right?
Starting point is 02:03:34 Maybe it's Torquey, who knows? Ryan Marlink, Kerry Keller, Demonte, Marley, Jamie Gates, Tyler with no last name, Todd Labister, Joe Patterson, Nicole G., Chris H., Stephanie Robertson, Biscuits in the Bathroom, Tori Merrill, David, well just stay in there because that's the safest place. David Demas, Streets Rider, Michael D.,
Starting point is 02:03:59 Maria Sherman, Morgan Prine, RVZ, Chad Roberts, Amy Bates, Maureen McLaughlin June Morris Koopie with no last name Dennis Verhoeven Nathan Lippert Matthew with no last name Rick Matthews Jay with no last name Moosh McKenzie LT the letters L and T probably not that one Marion Hawk Rebecca Crutchfield Douglas McClurkin Lily Fortenbaugh, Leanne Hill, Susan Fletcher, Alexis will know her last name, Gabrielle Godoy, Nick James, Nick James, not and.
Starting point is 02:04:32 Amy Oliver, Murr, Burns, god damn it. Nicole Williams, Josephine Lancaster, Solenn, Solenn de Tasigny, de Tasigny. It's Tasigny, right? I don't know, there's no G. There is a G one. That's a long one, right? I don't know. There's no G. There is a G. GNY? Who the fuck knows?
Starting point is 02:04:48 These silent G's are killing us, people. Miranda Presnell, Erin Terra, Trey Horn, Harry Trotter, probably not, Sky Davis, Benjamin Patnaude, Patnaude, Rebecca Ramey, Terry Stanley, Betty Warren, Leslie Dixon, Linda Morris, Jacqueline D., Amanda Walkup, Denise Carter, Ella Koepke, Angela Robinson, Karen with no last name, Natalie Lewis, Oscar Walters, A.L., the letters A and L, the whole state of Alabama, James. Or just a guy named Al.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Possibly, maybe it's A. I don't know. Alan Iverson's here for us? Good. That's cool, thanks. Alexandra Shea, JC, JC Chavez, Parker Brown, Aaron Walker, Bone Eatin' Snot Flower. I don't know. That's one of the bone thugs guys. The bone thugs is behind us too. See, look at that, we're doing great. Yeah. Fleshing, busy, and bone eating snot flower. Yeah, that's the guy. He's one of the deep boys.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Yeah, that's why you don't know his name, because he doesn't have a lot of parts, but when they're in there, you notice him. You know what I mean? He gets a lot of ideas. He's the guy. All right, Forest Bear, probably not. There's no way somebody named their kid Forest
Starting point is 02:06:04 when their last name is Bear, right? I really hope so. That'd be amazing. Brooks Crandall, Megan with no last name, D-Lo, Dan W., Joe Smart, Koi Cresta, BBT. Yeah, right, I don't know what that means. Patrick Rogers, Alyssa Lye-Build, JustMonica. She doesn't have a nickname, not Mo, not Mon,
Starting point is 02:06:24 not Monie, it's just have a nickname, not Mo, not Mon, not Moni, it's just Monika. No last name either. Forrest Wonderly James, I don't know if you name your kid Forrest if your last name's Wonderly. Madeline Dixon, Britt with no last name, Eliza with no last name, Sydney James, Stephanie Hooligan, I think that is, that's not her last name.
Starting point is 02:06:43 I think Apple corrected that. So Hooligan. Kayla Vinson,'s not her last name. I think Apple corrected that. So Hooligan. Kayla Vinson. Doug with no last name. Katie Lee. Chris with no last name. Thomas Cross. Jessica Anderson.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Justin Shoemaker. Kyle C. Sky Deceit. Callie Slaughter. James Kidd. Philip Anderson. Mary V. Jen Mack. Shelby Laberve.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Labeverie. Darryl with no last name. Trish, it might be Labov. Laberve, Labeverie, Dara would know last name, Trish, it might be Labov, Laberve, Labarv, I don't know. Trish would know last name, April Horn, Mary Kathleen, Vittoria, Marchese, Tonya Santos, Jason would know last name, Caitlin Batties, Battles, what is that, Batgees, I think it's Battles,
Starting point is 02:07:23 Davis W, Jason Docnois, Kara M, Andre Gross, Kevin with no last name, Sean LaMontagna, Scott, Scott Michalski, what? Michalski? I don't know, Michalski. Thomas Dunn, Tom Scott, Rebel, Rebel Marie, Leaha, Barbara, Dominica, Naya, Aaron Stewart. Yep. Crystal Goodrich, Athenia. Awesome. Mary Jivaden, Jivadayan, Trisha Hall, Jennifer Brock. Nope, that's just Bach. Sarah, what is that? Kurschik? No fucking way. Jared Grim, Bill Jiedeman, Ryan Flickinger Flickinger Daniel Davidson
Starting point is 02:08:07 Chally would know last name Ron key would know last name Larry Denman Jane Amlin Jenny Leanne Tracy Baldwin Matt Turner Jamie cotton cuttin Dana Cox David and Melinda Brianna Freeman Michelle butthead Fletcher Chris Reagan, Reagan, Sophia Weeks, Sophie Weeks, Stephanie Leopold, Krista with no last name, Leslie Harper, Stephanie Ostral, and Kristi Stevens, Heidi Shingleton, Ti Vangoni, fuck if I know, Emily, Amal, Rifle, Jordan Grant, Gamble, Julie Myers, Liz Chandler, Deandra Duhart, Sherry Weston, Amber would know last name, Beth would know last name, Cody Luce, Labrita, Labrita Roja, Lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-lubr-l For all that you do for us, you're the life fucking blood of this show and all the shows we do. We do it for you.
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