Crime in Sports - #446 - Coke Booger Boogie - Darrell Porter

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

This week, we look at the life of a World Series MVP, who seemed to have a roller coaster of a career, from being a marginal player, to being one of the best catchers in the league, and back ...again. That may be because he was also doing every drug he could get his hands on, including his favorites, quaaludes & cocaine! He made a big show of being clean, for many years, only to find out that it all may have been a sad act!Be the best overall athlete in the state of Oklahoma, jump into the stands to punch a heckler, and make everyone think you're Mr Clean, while doing coke, and crashing your car with Darrell Porter!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:07 and a tragic tale, we'll put it that way. A bit of a tragic tale. We'll jump right into this. He is born January 17th, 1952 in Joplin, Missouri. So right in the middle of the country there he is from Joplin. Yeah, I have, I stayed in a motel in Joplin when we were driving to New York.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And, um. It probably doesn't exist anymore. It is, this was way, well after it was leveled by the tornadoes. Oh, it was after? Oh, okay. Yeah, this was well after. It's brand new. It's not the greatest place I've ever been, I'll tell ya. I believe it.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It is, I went to a gas station and it was, the people there looked like they were, if I walked in with a shotgun that would have excited them like finally please blow my fucking brains out like that's what the guy looked like disappointed when I walked up there with money like I thought you're gonna kill me damn it all right well I guess I'll ring this up and keep my fingers crossed for the next guy like that's what it seemed like so that's when he's born here he by the way he's one of these guys throws right-handed bats left-handed
Starting point is 00:05:08 just a thing which I've always found pretty cool when people switch off like that yeah it's interesting so we'll get into all of his stuff here his father's name is Raymond which I assume is where his middle name comes from probably Darryl Ray Porter his dad was an auto dealership service manager. Okay. So, steady job, not wealthy, but you know. He'll never be hungry. Never be hungry, probably know something about cars,
Starting point is 00:05:34 that helps. Sure, sure. His mother's name is Twyla May. Oh? That is quite southern, I would say. Not a lot of Twyla Mays roaming around New Hampshire. Twyla's the first time I heard it was from that Schitt's Creek.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I thought they invented it for that show. Twyla May sounds like she's going to be formally introduced to society at her debutante's ball down there or some shit. Dress up in a big fucking peach colored plantation dress and get out there and really fucking chop it up. So Daryl's the youngest of four children. We always find for some reason,
Starting point is 00:06:15 I just kind of anecdotally off the top of my head, that when there's a bunch of kids, the professional athlete ones are always the younger ones. Yeah, well yeah. Because I think they're more fostered, I think, by everybody, they have more of a system. the professional athlete ones are always the younger ones. Yeah, well yeah. Because I think they're more fostered, I think, by everybody, they have more of a system. Yeah, they've got a whole bunch of parents. Yeah, yeah, whereas, like I can,
Starting point is 00:06:33 speaking from experience, if you're the older kids, that means your parents had you when they were younger and probably less good at being parents. Right. So, yeah. My parents raised my brothers way better than they raised me. You know what I mean? Like, why far?
Starting point is 00:06:47 They were, you know, like night and day just because of time. And I'm the middle, meaning both sides got more care than I did. I was just fucking abandoned. Yeah, I was pretty much a feral person. So, he's born, like we said, in Joplin here. His father was from Oklahoma, which is a very small town called Gracemont, and his dad met Twyla Mae Conley at a square dance in 1947.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Get out of here. Oklahoma square dance, I met a nice girl named Twyla Mae. Yeah. Holy shit. I'm clad that night, Jesus. My Christ. I feel like everyone's eating like fried chicken from wax paper that they brought from home Like that's what yeah, this is homemade. This is some homemade shit They fell in love at first sight here Twila Mae said he she took one look at him and said he looks like Clark Gable
Starting point is 00:07:39 That was us. She was hooked boy. How's that? That was us. She was hooked boy. How's that? Oh, then mustache. Oh, maybe maybe have a little one of those little upper crusty mustaches Yeah So they got married pretty quick as you know, it's the 40s So you might as well you never know when Hitler's gonna start Gonna start up again. You never know when something could happen there. It's 47. So let's get going here I don't trust what Stalin's up to so Ray found a job driving for United Transport in Joplin and
Starting point is 00:08:10 Darrell began playing baseball at age 9 So he's not one of these kids that started at 4 or anything like that played little league at age 9 Just like you know normal kids. Yeah, average American you don't it's so funny Like I read Sparky Lyles book and it's the same thing He wasn't like a high school phenom. Yeah, nothing like that He was playing on like traveling teams when some scouts saw him like not even a just like he was playing for like a dairy Or something like fucking Gina Davis and illegal their own. That's what he was literally doing and we muck in the stalls That's it and that they found him and you could like be a baseball player like that, right?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Whereas now they have to have like documentation that you've been a baseball robot since you were four And when you were nine, you had a certain velocity, you know The right the right muscles are being being worked there for baseball. Yeah Total strength rake shovels all that shit that's wrong. Yeah. Yeah, I'm risk. That's what you need. So yeah, it's strange though Yeah, you can't can't just be a kid who picks up a glove at nine and just happens to have a good talent for this And make it someday cuz there's some kid already Who's you know like Ivan Drago and Rocky fours hooked up to machines with like steroids going in and they're monitoring his velocity You know well his out velocity out velocity on the swing is actually,
Starting point is 00:09:26 they're analyticsizing him. Not analyzing, analyticsizing him. And looking at the paper and deciding what we need to do tomorrow to make this product a little better. That's it. So he, I guess, kind of gravitated toward being a catcher. And he said, it was when I began concentrate exclusively exclusively on catching that I really blossomed Even in those days I hustled my butt off behind home plate. I was a fiery catcher
Starting point is 00:09:53 Which everybody loves a spunky catcher. So that's good here. He went to Southeast High School in Oklahoma City He did football basketball and baseball He did football, basketball, and baseball. He's a real good athlete here. He has a really good strong throwing arm, as most catchers do, because to be able to fire that thing off to second base, it's a long throw. You know?
Starting point is 00:10:15 The middle, it's not easy. It's not easy, so they like that. Nearly 40 universities recruited him to play quarterback, including Oklahoma, OU, Arkansas, SMU, big schools in this area. Right. Everything right there, too. Yeah, they've all heard of him.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Absolutely. But they told, he ended up also, agents talked to him about baseball and said, listen, if you play baseball, you're going to get a signing bonus. I don't know what you expect to get from you know University of Arkansas, but it ain't gonna be a signing bonus like this It's on the books and you know You want to start your career or you want to maybe get have somebody hit you in the knee and blow out your Your knee and then you're gonna be working at the auto dealership with your dad. Which one would you rather have? They told them you could probably expect a hundred thousand dollar signing bonus
Starting point is 00:11:01 Well, so they're like change lives that'll change a lot of shit That's what I mean a hundred grand is oh you throw that in front of a kid Who doesn't you know isn't a rich get ready or whatever that's tough car in a house right out of the gate Yeah, so the Milwaukee Brewers will end up drafting him in the 1970 June amateur draft here. He's drafted fourth overall So he thought they get ended up giving him $70,000, not $100,000, but still $70,000 or living in a dorm and having people attack your knees. I don't know which I'd rather do. So he went to the Iowa Class A pilots in the Midwest league and the Milwaukee general
Starting point is 00:11:43 manager Marvin Milks at the time said, we feel this young man is our number one catcher of the future. So they had him pegged from the beginning here. So they told him to stop off in Baltimore for a couple days before reporting to Clinton, Iowa, the Clinton pilots, the Brewers were playing a series against the Orioles. And, you know know, they said stop by, look around. They like to get a kid like this and just bring him in the clubhouse so he can get his shock and awe over with. And if when they bring him up in a couple years, he's not going to be shitting his
Starting point is 00:12:14 pants anymore. Exactly. So he was like, Whoa, he walked in and was like, Holy shit. He said he didn't know, he didn't know what professional athletes were like. And he said he walked in and this is 1970. So the ballplayers are way different than they are now. He said he walks in, everybody's drinking beer and smoking cigarettes, which is what they used to do with a hard earned mustache. Yeah. With a good mustache, a good hard earned push broom. And he said the illusions I always had cherished I always cherished
Starting point is 00:12:45 about clean living jocks were shattered in that clubhouse for good yeah he's like oh these are the best of the best and they're drinking beer and smoking cigarettes so everybody everything that my coaches have been telling me for years is bullshit okay never mind fucking Hank Aaron is sitting right here no he was on the yeah so never mind Milwaukee Braves but yeah, the Brewers, I'm sure they had good players at 1970, they had to have somebody. Fuckin' clue. Not many, because they moved from Seattle the year before.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And yeah, when they were so bad that they didn't even, they were in a city for one year, that's how bad they were, so who knows, they might not have had a lot. But he said, it all started in my first season of baseball in Clinton, Iowa. I was a high school star in Oklahoma City. When I got to Clinton, I discovered other people were better than I was. I was frustrated, lonely, and a thousand miles from home.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Okay. Yeah, they find that out a lot. Whatever town they're from or team they're from, they're the best of the best. Right. And they're put with other kids who are the best of the best from everywhere, and now they're average and they feel, that's a big, yeah, that's a big psychological thing that players go through on this level, always.
Starting point is 00:13:55 He said, a couple of my teammates had good intentions. They took me out for a couple of beers in order to relax. He said, that's what happens. After six or eight beers, I had no problems. I could care less that I was hitting 205. I found I could talk to girls dance with girls I was no longer shy. Yeah, is your fucking drunk of course? That's how that is why beer exists Yeah, because after six eight of them you're fucking loose to talk to this woman and she's receptive to hearing it. So She's she's got him too. Yeah, who'd think they that's that's the only reason beer exists. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:14:31 He said I had no problems. He said the following year. I was graduated. I graduated to pot So from beer to weed Wow, which is a lateral move. I would say how old is he now? 18 okay a lateral move I would say. How old is he now? 18. Okay. He's in the minors, he's hanging out. He said, a blast. I could not believe how hilarious everything was. Again, the reason why weed exists. He's finding out that drugs work. I was laughing my ass off. It took him until he was 18 to realize that drugs work. The English language is so funny. Isn't it hilarious? Then I graduated to pills and cocaine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Oh, okay. That's different now. Now we're into where that's going to be a problem. That's what you wanted in the first place. Yeah. Now you said I took uppers greenies to become motivated. That is completely normal. Estimates at the time in Jim Boughton's book, in which he wrote about the 69 season,
Starting point is 00:15:27 so I mean it was, and 70 season, so it is this exact time period. He said that, you know, talking to guys and everything, they estimated at least 75% of the players use greenies, which are amphetamines, you know, handfuls of them, just to get up, because the point is, back then they played a lot of day games. It started at one o o'clock and these guys were out till four o'clock in the morning drinking so you can either be out there hung over and at half speed or you could take some
Starting point is 00:15:53 greenies and be back to back to start there so he said that uh being normal was not good enough for me i was hooked and when i came down from one of those euphoric highs the depression was terrible Oh, yeah, that's called withdrawals. That's that's tough. That's your your endorphins are running away on you fun. No He said it didn't affect my baseball playing so much. No when you're 18, it doesn't that's the thing You can fuck your body up and it's still ready to dig ready to go Rebound is much quicker. Oh, man he said, I worked hard at playing baseball. It was the only thing I had. I had no friends, no love, just baseball.
Starting point is 00:16:31 In 1979, I had the best year of my career. I hit 291 with 20 homers and 112 runs batted in. I scored 101 times, had a 429 on base percentage. So yeah, he is brought up in 1971 to the Brewers because they're a shit franchise at this point. They're a wretched franchise. So, you know a young catcher They'll bring them up. The Brewers are 69 and 92 that year Which is terrible not great at all. Yeah, and I'm looking at this. I'm looking at their roster Outside of like, you know, Tommy Harper was kind of a guy that people respected outside of that Jose Cardinal
Starting point is 00:17:06 I guess not a lot of big stars on this team put it that way looking at it Yeah, I don't there's not a lot at all on this squad So that's if you'd walk in and see all those guys drinking and smoking maybe you'd go fuck. I shouldn't drink and smoke What's Willie Mays doing right now Yeah, we suck do Do you notice that? I think maybe this is part of it. Perhaps. Found the reason already.
Starting point is 00:17:32 In 71 he only played in 22 games, had 70 at bats, so probably a September call up I would assume is what they'll do there. Hit 214 with two homers. Not terrific obviously. He had a hard time, and this is most hitters coming into the league when they're young, can't hit major league change ups and curve balls.
Starting point is 00:17:53 They've never seen them before. Because as soon as you have one of those, they bring you up to the major leagues period. So you're not playing here much longer. Nope. If you're in the minors, you don't see a lot of, you know, major league level curve balls. They just don't exist down there So that's really remember Bull Durham when he's like exploding sliders fucking this and that that's what it is. And So he was you know struggled with that like everybody else got tired by the end of the season and
Starting point is 00:18:18 He said he took to drinking a good amount once he got up to the majors Okay. Yeah, he said he you know, he said he put away four bottles of beer the first night and then the rest of the season He went out a few nights a week and he said just to relax and drink and chill Chill out. So the offseason he meets a young lady named Terry Brown and I don't know if she thought he looked like Clark Gable, but they started hooking up pretty quick and Right away. They're setting a wedding date. Oh Yeah, this is you know, he's 19 20 years old. Yeah, so she must be She is the 1970s Twyla May here. Yeah, she goes she goes Twyla May goes all the way
Starting point is 00:19:00 So boy, she also started using quail Oods at this point. He did. He did. Yeah. That's when he gets into Quail Oods. So he went from beer to weed, then coke, pills and coke, moods and coke, which are up and down. Yeah. This is what you do. That's how you maintain. Yep. If you've seen anything about the seventies, that was a very, very popular drug because it worked again. Sure. sure sure made you feel loose and chill Very very strong. Oh, yeah. He said they eventually became my drug of choice with a lewd nothing bothered me Yeah, no, that's that's why they exist again These eye-opening fucking realizations that drugs work are hilarious
Starting point is 00:19:47 Eye-opening fucking realizations that drugs work are hilarious. So eye-opening man, as soon as you find something that works like that and you love it, it really is it's mind-blowing because what the fuck is this? This is what works with my brain chemistry. I'll do anything to feel this forever. This is terrific. So May 31st, 1972, the Tulsa World newspaper has an article with a headline that says Porter always hits well when fiance is around. Yeah. So I'm going to read the little bit of this. It's funny as shit. When Darrell Porter clouded his game winning homer for
Starting point is 00:20:18 the Evans for Evansville against Tulsa Monday night, it didn't come as a surprise because he always delivers when his parents and fiance are in the stands. Yeah. Yeah, so he says that this is his sweetheart. He's gonna, he's talking about when they're gonna get married and you know, blah, blah, blah. They call them, they call her his high school sweetheart, but she didn't, yeah, they didn't meet
Starting point is 00:20:39 till he was in the majors, so I don't know. Or in the minor. She doesn't even know what high school he went to. That's weird. He said, he says, whenever she's's around I do all right in the game Terry visited me in Milwaukee this year when I got my only homer of the season He had two homers that year by the way according to baseball reference So I assume they know more than him even though it's his own career. It just happened. He's on Ludes James. He's all fucked up
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yep, he said that Hit enabled the Brewers to tie the Red Sox 1 1 in the 9th and he said only trouble is we lost an extra innings So yeah, I talk about him passing up football scholarships and everything else He said to get the $70,000 from the Brewers and he said I'm not rich and I'm not poor But I always wanted to play baseball. That was my childhood dream And back then that's how it was too. They weren't unless you were a superstar. You weren't right. You weren't rich You were just you know living fine So he said that I when his parents were there He hit two home runs one day in the minors and he said that had to be the great Great feeling for me one of the best I've had in a game hitting him in front of his parents
Starting point is 00:21:44 So that's his whole thing. He talked about his the Milwaukee manager feeling for me, one of the best I've had in a game. Hitting him in front of his parents. So that's his whole thing. He talked about the Milwaukee manager helped him out, you know, all that kind of shit. He said, Dan, help me so that I wouldn't be off balance hitting a fastball. Great. He was a quarterback on the Tulsa World's
Starting point is 00:22:00 All-State Football Team in 1969. And he was all-ate in basketball and baseball. Great. He's an athlete. That's what he is. He was the recipient of the first Jim Thorpe Award given to the most outstanding athlete in Oklahoma. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:18 The best in the whole state of everything in one. And he's the first one. First one, yeah. He said, I really cherish that award. It means, yeah. Wow. He said, I really cherish that award. It means a lot to me. He said, I still love football and play basketball all the time during the off season. He said, but you know, I think I can catch in the big leagues. He said, you can't always go by the books on the hitters up there because the hitters
Starting point is 00:22:38 are constantly adjusting. So you have to mix them up at times. Talking about calling a game. He said, spring training, he didn't do very well this year. He said, I guess I had a bad attitude. I'm sort of a homesick guy and I missed my parents. Still it was a good preseason until the strike undid everything.
Starting point is 00:22:53 There was a strike that year too. He says that the schedule's too long. He says, my former manager, Dave Bristol, was a little surprised when I made that statement. But I feel catching 110 games a season is a good shore. There's not a lot of guys that now or ever that caught like 162 games a season. It's just too brutal on your body, especially in these. Well, especially in day games when they had all these day games. Some of the if you go to St. Louis in the summer on the turf, it's a fucking it's a hundred and thirty degrees on the turf.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You can't be down there like that while that equipment on day after day after day. You're going to suck by the time the end of the season comes. Being in that position down like that, that'll fuck your legs up. Oh, yeah. They have like pads that go behind their legs that they're like, yeah, they sit on them kind of. But that doesn't do it. And man. They're still talking your legs up good Everything it hurts everything in your knee is is pulled tight as shit and back then outside of a second base of second baseman or shortstop getting taken out to Interrupt a double play the catchers are the only guys on the field that are having actual collisions with people too Yeah, taking guys coming to the plate getting blown over guys, guys foul-tipping a ball off of your fucking mask,
Starting point is 00:24:08 and that hurts, and that all adds up over the course of a season. So he said, I try to be confident, not cocky, because that's something you can overdo. I try to sign all the autographs I can for them, that's the day I'll begin to worry. I try to sign all the autographs I can for them, that's the day I'll begin to worry. I try to sign all the autographs I can for them. That's the day I'll begin to worry. I don't know what that means
Starting point is 00:24:28 So yeah, he said that quote About baseball funny thing about it. I got started late. I didn't participate in athletics until I was nine years old But once I started I enjoyed it. Maybe I didn't get burned out. So I said maybe that's why yeah He said that I'm taking about talking about baseball and his goals. He said I'm taking each day as it comes and as soon as I can make contact consistently then I'll be ready. I don't want to say when because I don't want to disappoint myself. That's fair. I guess. Yeah. So they talk about his family. I guess his his older brother played first base for Murray state and his little brother
Starting point is 00:25:08 was playing football and basketball for Southeast high school at the time too. He said, Eddie can really throw a football. And he, uh, he said, I've had a taste of the big leagues and I know that's the place I want to play. It was like my little brother plays football. I want to do this. And, uh, they asked him, what do you think? How do you compare yourself compare yourself to Johnny bench was the best catcher league at the time and ever yeah one of yeah he said I don't want to think about that but that's a heck of a compliment when he said people compare him to Johnny bench 72 season 65 and 91 for the Brewers they have three managers that year that's a
Starting point is 00:25:41 bad sign yeah never a great sign when you have three fucking managers management Yeah, so they expected him to be the kind of platoon catcher Kind of back and forth with a guy named Ellie Rodriguez, but he still wasn't doing well He played in 18 of Milwaukee's first 25 games Darrell does and hits a buck 25 with one homer and two ribbies. So, not good in 25 games. Terrible. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:26:10 So, they send him back to Evansville for triple A in Indiana, and one of the GM here for Milwaukee said, "'We felt that Major League pitching "'was just a little too tough for him, "'so we sent him down to the Miners "'to develop more batting experience.'" Yeah so 73 Brewers 74 and 88 this year how many managers? Only one. That's good. That's great. Good for them
Starting point is 00:26:33 you're coming around guys. So he cut down his swing a lot. He had kind of a lot of swing to him and I kind of want to quiet that down a bit and efficiency of motion is what you're going for in a batting swing. So he said, I have natural power, so I don't have to cut hard. So he said the change in approach is what did everything. A shorter swing, you know, there's less to fuck up the shorter amount of area you have
Starting point is 00:26:58 between where your bat is and where it hits the ball. There's less to fuck up in there is basically how you think about it. The quicker you get there, the less time you have and things to fuck with. The less goofy shit to do. The more shit in your swing, the more shit can go wrong in your swing.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Low amounts of mechanics, make it simple, sure. So this year, he's technically a rookie this year, because he never played the amount of games you have to be to be considered not a rookie anymore. You have to do a certain amount in a season. This year though, 117 games played, 350 at bats and he hit 254 with 16 homers and 67 ribbies. Okay, now we're moving. That is fine for a catcher playing 120 games. That is perfectly fine if you're a good defensive
Starting point is 00:27:43 catcher. Certainly in shape now really good here. He ends up He ends up tied for third in the rookie of the year voting Oh, so that's not bad at all and does can't get better than that almost a rookie of the year So 74 they still stink 76 and 86 Still suck looks like they got a couple of Alou brothers on the roster this year maybe. A couple guys like that. Oh, Robin Yout comes on this year.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He's 18 years old. In what year? Rookie Robin Yout, 74. Wow. Fucking Hall of Famer there. That's unbelievable. 18, yeah, that's wild, man. So the Brewers traded the other catcher they had,
Starting point is 00:28:23 the veteran in the offseason. So we're running it with Darrell. We're running it with Darrell here. Yeah, fuck it. We're going with him and he's going to end up making the All-Star team this year. Darrell is? Yeah, Darrell is going to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 He said that it's the greatest thing that ever happened to me. By the time at the All-Star break, he was hitting 272. So that's great for a catcher at the time and he ended up struggling later on as a lot of catchers have tough second halves because their body starts to get beat up a little bit and he ended up finishing with 241 with 12 home runs he hit. Behind the closed doors of government offices and military compounds there are hidden stories and buried secrets from the darkest corners of history. From covert experiments pushing the boundaries of science,
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Starting point is 00:30:23 Available now. So not bad here. The Con, Caitlin's baby. It's a long story, settle in. Available now. All right. So not bad here. He near the end of a doubleheader against Cleveland on September 23rd. He had a little bit of an incident and it's fucking hilarious. Apparently some guy sitting right behind the dugout a fan was really giving him some shit for umpto for several innings just riding him the whole time okay it's all day all day fucking long all right if this guy you know he's hung over you
Starting point is 00:30:57 know he's got a greenie buzz and his head hurts from too much fucking beer last night and at some point and late in the game he fucking jumped up on top of the dugout and punched this guy oh what jumped up on top of the dugout in full fucking uniform and fucking started beating the shit out of this guy like none of us expect that no he pulled a Vernon Maxwell on him yeah interesting and Babe Ruth did that once too so Porter afterwards when asked by reporters, he said, I'd rather not say anything about what happened. And his manager, Del Crandall,
Starting point is 00:31:31 said the fans were on him all night. It was one of those quick reaction things. It certainly didn't take him long to get up there to the top of the dugout. It was quick. He just jumped right up there. So the newspapers everywhere printed photos of everybody holding him back, which is this picture here, which is fucking hilarious. Oh Jesus like five they got a hold of him. It's like five teammates. They're holding his legs
Starting point is 00:31:56 One guy's got his like got him in a chinlock. Yeah, somebody's holding his neck for chill the fuck out Yeah, and the caption is Porter is captured, which is very funny Holy shit So the Indians won that game anyway Yeah, so they lost that game and he had to any had to get in trouble for that shit at the same time So September 25th 1974 Darrell parter Porter is suspended and fined for this obviously here Certainly not the fans that's not especially they paid for a good seat to right
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah, don't one of the best run up to the upper deck if you want to punch somebody none of these box seat people They're shelling out If you think those polite people with money down at the bottom or saying offensive shit, you should have to hear the people up there That just spent their entire day's pay to be here. Yeah, they're saying awful shit, you should have to hear the people up there that just spent their entire day's pay to be here. Yeah. They're saying awful shit about you. Awful shit.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So he's an all-star, 241, like we said, 12 homers, but he was hitting really well up to the break. He's an all-star. He's punching people. He hops up to the dugout very quickly on top of it. I'm going to go ahead and say Grace at this point. Is that right? Yeah, for his athletic dugout hopping abilities.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He's got some prowess, yeah. And he's an all-star. I mean, that's Grace, babe, right there. So 1975 Brewers are 68 and 94. They are just rancid. Honestly. Shit, what a shit fucking team. Looks like they fired their manager
Starting point is 00:33:22 the day before the last day of the season. They have two managers, but one guy has a 1-0 record, so they have brought in a guy to manage the last game. And he won, for God's sake. Fucking hilarious. Hank Aaron on this team, by the way. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Went back to Milwaukee here for his last little whatever the fuck here. He didn't play much much but still he went there anyway the Darrell is going to hit 232 this year with 18 homers 60 RBI got his power numbers up he's only hitting 232 on base percentage 371 which is you know not awful that's pretty decent so he takes a walk now and then, shit like that. 89 walks and 77 strikeouts that year, which is more walks than strikeouts, which is good. The other last year it was 88 strikeouts and only 50 walks. So doing better. 76, the Brewers are 66 and 95.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They are just a rancid franchise. Years of this, huh? Fuck man, they were bad. Well they were an expansion team. So they had to build from Seattle out and man did it take them a long time. Other teams got it a lot quicker than this. By the way, was Paul Molitor on this team yet? No, just yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I think he comes in in 76 or 77 Molitor I want to say. So 76, 66 and 95 again shitty Let's see here at this point 76 really turns into a mess for him He this is his low point in life here as far as if there was a reverse grace. This is it As far as his career goes so Yeah, he bats 208 with five homers and 32 RBI that year. Which is fucking miserable. That's just terrible. And off the field, it's even worse if that's possible. He's got the off the
Starting point is 00:35:16 field equivalent of a 208 batting average this year as well. His marriage ends in divorce this year. Oh, ouch. That's not great. And he steps up and escalates his drug issues as well. Yeah. Get rid of the wife, get more drugs. That's what he did. Or, yeah, you either lost her because of it or you did more because of the loss. So either way, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:35:40 That's it. He said a friend introduced him to cocaine at a party. Oh. He said, I really wanted to fit in, really fit in, and Coke did at a party. Oh, he said I really wanted to fit in Really fit in and coke did that for me. Oh This guy yeah, he's a bizarre. Hmm. He's got like seems like he's social anxiety is a thing for this guy That's something. Yeah, he's also got a lot of insecurities about himself Absolutely on the field. He seems confident and off the field not so much
Starting point is 00:36:05 So I mean little bit of drugs. Hey Coak will make everyone feel confident Yeah, but I don't know that I need to be Hmm if we if we sat here and did two lines each Yeah, we would think we solved world hunger in the next hour. We'd have a whole plan And we would never follow through with I would never do it because everybody else is doing it I won't fit in he literally reason he literally said I really just wanted to fit in yeah Like he's in an after-school special or some shit
Starting point is 00:36:36 Try a little of this yeah, like he's a diller buying in a new pair of jeans that everybody has yeah He's getting some jankos in 1997. He's like now these are big enough here we go here we go the whole family can wear these excellent so he said that he contemplated suicide but not seriously it just passed passing thought should I kill myself nah no that's dumb he said that quote there was always pot and quail ouds beer and cocaine to dull the agony of living So fuck it. I'll just do drugs The team's in last place. He's hitting 208 his wife's leaving him And he's doing full of quail and he's doing fucking coke and quail ouds. So
Starting point is 00:37:19 76 bad year for him bad year Absolute mess and then it gets a little bit weirder when in December of 1976 the Brewers trade him to Kansas City for infielder Jim Wulford and infielder Jamie Quick. Sure. Yeah so he said he wanted to be just have a new start and he said that before this his mind wasn't 100% on baseball the previous year obviously So where did he go? Kansas City the Royals, okay, they send him there the Royals He got lucky because he went to a goddamn good team the Royals were great back then 102 and 60 that year
Starting point is 00:37:58 Oh my for first in the AL West and then they lost to the Yankees in the ALCS as they did a lot back then. Manager Whitey Herzog, future Cardinals manager there. Is that right? Absolutely. Got George Brett, a young George Brett on this team. Frank White, oh UL Washington, a lot of like guys I remember on this team here. This year Darrell hits 275 with 16 homers and 60 RBI
Starting point is 00:38:31 Really cleans it up plays in 130 games does terrific in the playoffs. He hits 333 To so not bad. He said when I first came to Kansas City I felt a lot of pressure, but after I got to know everyone there was really no pressure So that we win all the time. It's so much easier. Very concerned about how he's perceived by others. That's a real big deal for him. More than most athletes I've ever heard of. They don't give a shit if the guy, it's not a social event. Not supposed to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 They don't usually care. Usually a lot of the guys are assholes on purpose, you know? Yeah, he's the first guy, they probably created that award to the best athlete in the state for him. He probably was so good that they were like, we should have an award for guys like this. And all the guys who are great in every sport? Yeah, we should do that. Like Jim Thorpe.
Starting point is 00:39:15 That level of fallatio publicly. As a child? Yeah, you shouldn't need any more than that. Maybe that creates something in you that if they're not doing that, it's because they hate me. That's possible, or that he just thinks that there's only down to go from here. Some people are like, oh shit, they put me here, now what?
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah, psychologically as a young, you know what I mean, as somebody that's still got a lot of growth to do between the years, to be filleted like that, to be told how great and special you are, and then you go play for a team and you lose two games to every one you win and your numbers stink. Your wife doesn't want to be with you anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Your wife leaves you. That's a lot, that'll put you down in the dumps, but Coke will make you feel better. That is one thing for Coke. If you do it, you'll feel fine, that's a lot. That'll put you down in the dumps. But Coke will make you feel better. That is one thing for Coke. If you do it, you'll feel fine. That's one thing. So the Royals, very good again, 92 and 70 for first in the AL West.
Starting point is 00:40:12 And again, they lose to the Yankees in the ALCS. That year, again, Whitey Herzog, who must have hated the Yankees a good amount by then, I would imagine. I can only imagine now this year, like like we said 265, 18 homers, 78 RBI. Kind of his best year. He's an all-star again this year. Great. And this is something, he's 10th in the MVP voting. Of everybody. Of everybody. So yeah, you could say the 10th most valuable player in the league here. 10 here most important person in this whole fucking thing
Starting point is 00:40:47 Not too fucking shabby October 6 1978 so right after the season here there is a An article in the Kansas City Times called Porter scared in the city Okay, it says with a possible shud, Darrell Porter pressed himself further into the seat of the careening taxi as the cabbie hurled an obscenity at the red-faced driver of a car in the next lane of traffic. I think they're talking about going to New York for the traffic. The Royals catcher on his way to an off-day workout at Yankee Stadium where game three
Starting point is 00:41:22 of the ALCS will be held today. He cast a furtive look at the skyscraper on his left and muttered, This town scares me. I don't like it. It's too big. It's too big. The words came out in an Oklahoma drawl that seemed oddly out of place with the nasal mutterings of New York's teeming millions. The cowboy swagger too, when he walked from the taxi in the Yankee Stadium, seemed to offer an offbeat cadence into the darting scurrying faces of this city's native pedestrians. What came to mind was a picture of a country boy at loose ends in the Big
Starting point is 00:41:54 Apple. It is a picture that Darrell Porter is both at home and at odds with. He said, quote, I'm more laid back, but yeah, I guess I'm pretty much of a country boy too. Isn't that what country boys are, supposed to be laid back? I guess he's more laid back than a country boy. That's what he's saying. He is a fish out of water is what he is. It seems like wherever he is, he's a fish out of water, though, that's the weird part. Never been in water.
Starting point is 00:42:19 He's been flopping for a while now. He might mind a check, maybe he's not a fish. He's been out of water so long and still alive. I mean check and see if the gills have developed into lungs here. Maybe he's just a tortoise man. That's possible. You don't know. Could be an amphibian of some kind. So they said a confusing statement perhaps until you consider that Darryl Porter at age 26 has only in the last two seasons really found out what makes Darryl Porter tick
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah drugs. He likes cocaine. That's what he figured out Ludes coke feeling great. Yeah, get some ludes in me. Oh God Darryl Porter grew up on the south side of Oklahoma City went to Southeast High That's a pretty rough side of town He'll tell you all the rich people live on the north side and all the river rats live on the south side. Porter says, I didn't really fit the mold. I never drank, never smoked, never cussed. I didn't go chasing women around. Really, I was just a very straight guy when I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:43:16 They said the experience toughened Porter, the process carrying him through some bad times with the Milwaukee Brewers. Then on to standout years in the 77 and 78 with the Royals as their number one catcher. And he says, I can see those things that I grew up around coming out in my life. Now I was pushed around a lot in high school. I was pushed around a lot when I came to the major leagues. Who pushes around the top athlete in the state? Drug dealers. I don't know who's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Your wife? Your wife that's unhappy with you? Yeah. Even if he can't do anything, he's got three teams worth of people that'll kick your ass. We need him. He's the quarterback. He's the star of this, the star of that. That is fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:43:59 He said, finally, I just got fed up with it. The intimidation, knocking you on your can on plays at home plate, throwing pitches at your head. They don't mess with me like they used to. Really, I guess it's that I've just grown up. I know what I can do and what I can't do. He said Porter's referee was interrupted by manager Whitey Herzog's call to practice. But before answering that call, Porter said something that really may have told where his laid back country where his laid-back Country where this laid-back country boy from Oklahoma is coming from he said quote, you know, I drink a little now I swear a little those are things. I'm not very proud of sometimes. I wish I could go back to the way I was then
Starting point is 00:44:37 But then I remember how great cocaine smells and I said never mind and I said, never mind. They didn't say that, that's for me, but. I love the scent. That is fucking great. By the way, there is an ad right under this, which is hilarious, for, okay, this is just, it's a boxing match, and it just says, Who is that?
Starting point is 00:44:59 Tony. Yeah. And it's got a picture of a guy. Guy named Tony. Versus Mike. Mike. Just Tony. Hey, Tony's gonna kick the shit picture of a guy guy named Tony versus Mike Evans. Just Tony Hey, Tony's gonna kick the shit out of this guy. Yeah Tony and it's Tony and it's at the Italian Gardens, by the way, so I
Starting point is 00:45:19 Assume in Kansas City because this is a kids Kansas City paper. So that's fucking hilarious Some guinea named Tony is gonna beat up a guy named Mike Evans While all of Tony's cousins watch that That's how that's gonna work I think. So 78 he hits he'd oh the playoffs in 78 he does has a good playoff too he has he hits 357 that year. Yeah. So he did really well he told Sports Illustrated that he thought the Yankees and Royals were really really close as far as who
Starting point is 00:45:43 was better team they're close and goodness. He said that not much separated him, separated the teams. He said, but that small difference is what makes KC a good team in New York, a great one. He said that he spent his off season because they were doing so well and he felt great about himself now back on track. He said, quote quote I went wild in the offseason got right into the old fast lane he said and started doing more coke and really having a good party time here I would too shit fuck yeah how do you not especially you're single young people are telling you you're great and and in the 70s it's all great yeah they're fucking quail ouds and piles of coke and
Starting point is 00:46:22 no one cares it It's fucking hilarious So 1979 85 and 77 this year So they missed the playoffs back then you had to win your division or win your whole Whatever conference not conference, but he was al west and a le so you had to be tops in one of those So this year he replaces On the Royals he had replaced buck Martinez as the catcher 79 is his best season so Yeah, if you're if you're Darrell, okay, and you started doing
Starting point is 00:46:56 coke After the 76 season when you had your most miserable season, that's your low point You start doing coke from the second you snort your first line, things start getting better for you. Not that the coke caused it, but I'm saying, that's how humans' brains work. They make cause and effects whether they are or they aren't. And three years later, I'm at the pinnacle of my life.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I'm a great player. This is clearly a part of it, and a reason for it. Clearly this is helping me. It's science. Look at it. I've experimented for three years and I'm better. As a matter of fact there's numbers involved even you can track to see. It's just science. This year he hit 291. So he said no coke 208. Coke 275 265 291. So this year, by the way, he's getting to be a much better hitter in terms of having an eye on everything else. It is 291, 20 homers, 112 ribbies, which is great for a catcher.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Also 121 walks to lead the American League. So he went from a guy that used to get about 50 walks a year to a guy now that has twice the walks That he does strikeouts So that's the other team respects you and is scared of you I would rather put you on base than try to strike out and he has a good enough eye to not swing at crap anymore Yeah, his on base percentage is 421 which is oh great OPS of 905 So even analytics nerds would say holy holy shit, good fucking year for him. He's an all-star again,
Starting point is 00:48:29 and he is ninth in the MVP voting this year, instead of 10th. So I mean, he's moving up. He gotta be feeling great. He became- He's got eight more years, he's number one. He's gonna be the best, holy shit, eight more years, big old pile of coke,
Starting point is 00:48:40 he's gonna be the best catcher who's ever lived. Johnny Bent who? Johnny fucking who. We would we would Johnny bench Johnny bench. Yeah. Yogi what? Roy Campbell what the fuck? Never heard of him. Nope he became the sixth catcher in major league history to score a hundred runs and have a hundred RBI that year. Okay. That's a lot he had a hundred and one runs scored for the sixth in history to do that. Oh, okay in history. So that's big Previously been accomplished by Mickey Cochran. I believe it's an old Tigers player That's the guy think that Ty Cobb used to give money to
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yogi Berra Roy Campanella Johnny bench Carlton Fisk. That's Hall of Fame Hall of Fame Hall of Fame Hall of Fame all Hall of Famers Like first ballot Hall of Famers too, not even anything else. So really great season, unbelievable. 100 walks, 100 runs, 100 ribbies in a season. Only Porter and Mickey Cochran did that, and that was in like the 20s he did that. So he's the only guy in the modern era at that time
Starting point is 00:49:42 to do that, which is huge. Big time, big time. He's doing greats another all star again like we said this year and over the winter he's like well fuck guess what I'm going to do. What is that? Exactly what I did last year really party and party it up. So he said he settled into a nice routine in the winter. Nice routine. Heroin shooting into his balls? Quote, get up, make coffee, do a quailude, drink a beer, sniff cocaine, and then smoke cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:50:17 That is the breakfast of champions right there. You put that in a bowl and pour some 2% over it, then you got something there buddy. Let me tell you something. By 10am he's fucked up. All fucked up for the day. Just gonna smoke and fucking probably do some maintenance coke over the day as he starts to come down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:50:35 So during the winter of 79, 80, he said he became paranoid because he's fucking doing coke from the time he wakes up. So paranoia will do that that'll happen Gonna be very comfortable in your own skin. No he was convinced by teammates that Commissioner Bowie Kuhn What knew about his drug abuse which was probably true because this was the time where if we remember we did the Pittsburgh drug Scandal this is the year this was all happening 79. The leagues were all cracking down and doing like their own investigations. And this is all that this is the Willie Mays Aiken's era too with the right.
Starting point is 00:51:13 We talked about. So this is when guys were being caught doing it. Remember there was the guy in the Willie Mays Aiken's episode who a fan who was like a rich guy who would invite them all over to his fucking place and have parties for the players and Give them some shit like some yeah some local businessman and give them shit loads of coke and all this type of shit A lot of guys got suspended and careers got all fucked up because of it He said Porter told people that he thought Bowie Kuhn the Commissioner of of baseball was trying to sneak into his house Now picture a fat fuck old baseball executive climbing through this guy's back bedroom window, and that's hilarious to me was fat ass Anybody like thinking that the commissioner of any sport has time to be at anybody's fucking yeah No shit, but they were hiring
Starting point is 00:52:03 Investigators to do pretty Yeah, deep shit on guys back then but not but not Bowie not Bowie himself. Yeah, that's what I mean I just pictured him trying to Hang it out of his window going come on boost me amazing. Yeah, so he said that he found himself Porter not Bowie Sitting up at night in the dark watching out of his front window waiting for Bowie Kuhn to approach While clutching these are these are the things he's holding billiard balls and a shotgun All 15 of them these are his weapons He's got an arm so I'm gonna start throwing balls at him if that doesn't work. I have a shotgun So he's gonna shoot Bowie Kuhn in his front yard.
Starting point is 00:52:45 That is, that would have been a scene. I would have paid to watch that. That would have been crazy. So, and he would have had right to, if he was coming to his house in the middle of the night, I guess. What's with the billiards though? Why has he got those? To throw. If he's just going to shoot you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Well, I think that's to throw. And if you miss with the balls, then, you know, Bowie can be quick getting out of the way. He might be spunky. So then you can shoot him there's a backup February 9th 1980 the Kansas City Times Darrell Porter hires an agent now he has now he finally did this was the time still like in the early 70s guys still went into the general manager's office to talk about their contracts and there was no agents. If you hired an agent, a lot of times the teams wouldn't deal with you anymore because
Starting point is 00:53:29 they were trying to set a precedent to not have agents. But post free agency by 80 and a lot of the most guys had an agent. So they said in the article that until recently the Royals had been talking contract with Darrell Porter. From now on, they'll be talking with his agent. So yeah, no shit. So if they say for the last month or so, Porter's been engaged in informal discussions with Joe Burke, executive vice president and general manager of the Royals. His hiring of an agent doesn't mean negotiations have bogged down. Porter said
Starting point is 00:53:58 they haven't even really started. He said, but the agent plans to set up a session with the Royals early next week. So he ends up signing says 1980 season, their 97 and 65. Yeah. First in the AL West, they beat the Yankees in the ALCS. Finally get some revenge there. It's been a while for them. Finally because I think it's that's three years in a row. They lost in the LCS to the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I'm pretty sure. And then because I think Chambliss was 76 that that home run at the end of the game and then the next Two years and then they go all the way to the World Series where they lose to the Phillies So yeah lose to the Phillies there Jim Fry is the new manager by the way, they've gotten rid of Whitey I think he went on to the Cardinals at that point. Fucking Dan Quisenberry on this team. Shit yeah. Do you remember him? No.
Starting point is 00:54:48 He's a side armor. It's a fun name to say though. One of those underhand side armors. Like his knuckle, there's been a couple plays where he actually hit his hand on the ground throwing. Wow. That close. Like there's stills of him where his finger clears the ground the ground by half an inch he's so low to the ground
Starting point is 00:55:06 Quisenberry was awesome looking dude yeah he's sick name yeah yeah Dan Quisenberry no Paul split or fletza guys on this team all right so this year Darrell hits 249 with seven homers and 51 RBI so way down from his previous numbers but he's still an all-star this year. Because that All-Star voting goes on name recognition a lot of it. So sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Griffey could have been injured and had the worst season of his life and we'd still put him in. Oh yeah. I remember guys. Ken Griffey Jr. Yeah, guys that were injured all year that didn't play a game started voting, starting All-Star team guys. It's like, doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah.'t matter yeah and then half putting Barry Bonds in it yeah and 80 I don't know
Starting point is 00:55:49 if they went to the fan voting yet or if it was still just writers but we used to be player like the managers and the writers and all that but then it went to they'd pick their team kind of the managers but then it went to fans which is I don't know how good that of a system that is because I remember when I worked at the Diamondbacks They really wanted Luis Gonzalez to be an all-star so they brought in mountains of boxes of ballots Oh my god whenever you guys aren't on the phone be punching ballots for Luis Dude tens of thousands they had us do and this fucking office. Yeah scummy. That's what goes on in reality Yeah, but there's also the the like the fan favorite in every town that even if
Starting point is 00:56:28 they're not great, you know what I mean? Yeah. They'll vote for that guy because people love him. And that's what it was. It was we're talking about the starting All-Stars for like the 2001 All-Star team in the outfield in the National League. Griffey, guys like that. They were entrenched, you know, every year. All-stars, yeah. It's kinda like you weren't gonna be the shortstop because Barry fucking Larkin was there forever, you know, and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I don't even care if he's rehabbing a hip injury, we fucking want him. He's still gonna, exactly, still gonna make it. So during spring training 1980, Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher back in the day, Don Newcomb, paid a visit to the Kansas City clubhouse. Newcomb, by the way, became a, he was a huge alcoholic who became a big, he goes around and talks to the guys
Starting point is 00:57:15 as a cautionary tale, don't fuck your career up, like I fucked mine up. We've talked about him a few times in a few episodes. Symposium, sure. Yeah, exactly, and they were bringing him in, all these teams were bringing him in to talk to the guys And they're just like look at this old loser cuz they're all coked up and feeling Feeling their oats and feeling strong and shit. Maybe you should have had some fucking ludes instead of whiskey there
Starting point is 00:57:37 I can smell your cirrhosis get out of here. Yeah, he's up there with gray hair And they're like he's never had coke like at all. Yeah,. Don come back here a minute. I'd like to change your mind. We've heard your bullshit. Now listen to mine. Try this. He asked the players 10 questions. The point of which being if a player answered three or more of the questions with an affirmation, the player might have a problem with drugs or alcohol. Those tests are all bullshit by the way. Some of them are like, have you ever, um, have you ever gotten so drunk that you got sick the next morning?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yeah, who the fuck has it? Drink heavy I was real fucking sick. That's how you that's how you gauge okay? That's too much, and then you know next time like what are we talking about here? Yeah, so yeah It's like so basically you know 93% of adults are alcoholics at that point. Have you ever gotten sick? Or at least you got a problem. Have you ever had more than five drinks in a month? Shit like that. Like, you know, give me a break here.
Starting point is 00:58:33 So, he confirmed all, he said he affirmed all 10 questions. He was like, huh. Yes to everything. Yeah, that's not good. All 10 is probably bad. Yeah, do you ever drink a bottle of wine with your asshole? Yes. Yeah, obviously. While sniff. All ten is probably bad. Yeah, do you ever drink a bottle of wine with your asshole? Yes! Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Sure. While sniffing a line of cocaine? Fine! It's like you know me! Maybe Bowie Kuhn is in my house. He sees everything I do. I was doing handstands and... I got a... I got a fucking... a wine IV in my asshole, and I got coke coming in the other side... Quaaludes... Quaaludes Suppositories, why yes! Let's do it, that sounds great.
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Starting point is 01:01:38 So he checked himself into a rehab center after answering yes to all 10 questions. He was like, oh shit, this isn't good. You're saying this is a bad thing. This is a bad, okay. Because I looked at my numbers and I've been an All-Star for three straight years. Sure seems good.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Seems okay to me. The paycheck has told me yes. My agent says that whatever I'm doing, keep doing it. So, I don't know. So he then ends up saying he obviously is ab abusing alcohol, cocaine, Quaaludes and weed. So he's got a nice four pack here. The manager of general manager of the Royals, Joe Burke told reporters, Darrell Porter has
Starting point is 01:02:15 a very confidential and personal problem, which makes it sound like he's a pedophile and he's going for help. Makes it sound like we caught him in the boys bathroom with his dick out and you know, we think he needs some psychological help so we're gonna send him away for a while. The only thing that made it, controversial would be a bad word
Starting point is 01:02:34 to call your fucking disease a problem, but that's the only way this gets much worse. Much worse, but confidential and personal sounds like, oh no. Confidential's not good. Where'd he put his dick? That's what it says to me, right? Yeah, he said I cannot betray his confidence, but I don't expect him to be back with us until he's had treatment for his problems That is I'd be I'd be on the phone going bro. Just tell him I did coke. What the fuck? People think I'm a fucking kid touch her now. What are you doing? Tell them it's lewds.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Don't say that, because they're going to hear just lewd. Yeah, they're going to hear lewd, damn it. They're going to know I'm a rapist again. Yeah. So he checked into rehab, and once he does that, he becomes a born again Christian, of course. Really? I will say this about our guy here, Darrell.
Starting point is 01:03:23 By the way, breaking a top five crime and sports rule Don't just find religion because religion out of the gate is crazy out of the gate not good So he becomes a born-again Christian He it's funny like I said because he like when he finds something that he believes is a solution He jumps in with both feet. Yeah coke indicates yeah. Cokes? Dedicates it. Let's do it from the time I get up in the morning. Yeah. Christianity?
Starting point is 01:03:48 Great. Let's do it. Dive right in. He got married again and became a spokesman for the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Oh my god. You know, those ass wipes. The rep of them all. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 His production level on the field declined after rehab though, and he never was the same player again. Really? Yeah. Jesus, like it said, you're trying to tell me Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball? Apparently not. Jesus really abandoned him. Apparently cocaine is a better off-speed pitch hitter than Jesus. If you got to bet... Man, The devil's good for your knees. Yeah, I'm saying. If you had to
Starting point is 01:04:29 bet who's gonna come out on top, there you go, cocaine. I think, yeah. So it's a mess. By the way, here's a picture of him at this point. He's a odd-looking fella. Really? His chest hair. He does look like, he does look like, I mean that's not chest hair. No, that's, that's chest hair, because this is shaved. His chest hair does look like he does look like I mean that's not chest hair That's that's check is this is shaved his chest hair connects with his facial hair His chest hair goes to his Adam's apple it goes it's going up. Yeah, it's a it's a straight line. That's where he shaved Yeah, yeah, it's a me up here, too So that's yeah, that's just there his beard connected with his chest hair His his beard stops at his Adam's apple and that's where his chest hair. His beard connected with his chest hair. His beard stops at his Adam's apple and that's where his chest hair starts.
Starting point is 01:05:08 And he decided, shave the beard, leave the chest hair line at Adam's apple. Way up high. It's a strange fucking decision for a look. I got chest hair but I have to wear a shirt so how do I tell everybody that I haven't? This is, I really want them to know. These shirts don't show enough and it is 1980.
Starting point is 01:05:27 So there's March 19th, 1980 the newspaper headline is Porter absence still a mystery. What's wrong with Darrell Porter? Nobody who knows will say. It's so much worse than if they just said he had a drug problem and he went to rehab. Like this is so much worse. Fans, friends and followers of Kansas City's All-Star Catcher have to wonder what in the world could be wrong with Darrell Porter? This much is known.
Starting point is 01:05:54 He left the Kansas City Royals Spring Training Complex at Fort Myers, Florida on Friday. Geez, that's a lot of F's. On Sunday, in a voice that wavered and seemed about to break. General manager Joe Burke made the announcement at the impromptu news conference. That's the one we read before. He described the problem as a very sensitive thing. Burke said, I couldn't feel any worse if this has happened to a member of my family. As well as I know Darrell, I guess he's like a member of the family. I hope I never have to go through an experience like this again. Right. You will if you're gonna be the general manager of a sports team it's gonna happen a whole lot more. So these
Starting point is 01:06:33 Burke said he will not be specific he said Daryl came to me in confidence I've been advised that it is very important for me to not betray that confidence I'm glad he came to me and I hope that if any of our other players ever have problems they will come to me when Darryl Darryl returns Maybe he will want to talk about it Okay, that is March 19th by March 26th the headline is alcoholism signs sidelines Darryl Porter It's a real problem which alcoholism was totally fine It's a real problem, which alcoholism was totally fine
Starting point is 01:07:10 Back then if you said by by the mid 80s if you said I have a coke problem And I'm going to rehab people would applaud you for that and be like oh, that's very brave of you to say you have a problem But in 1980 if you said that you were a scumbag who should be Literally should be kicked out of the league forever because you did cocaine whereas an alcoholic should be kicked out of the league forever, because you did cocaine. Whereas an alcoholic, everyone in America was a fucking alcoholic at that point. So that's fine, that's like, oh yeah, you got a little too deep in the water,
Starting point is 01:07:33 back toward the shallow end pal, there you go. Watching the footage of interviews of people when they find out that you can't drink and drive anymore is fucking crazy. That's hilarious. The British one? No, Americans. Oh, there's a- Americans learning that you can't drink and drive anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Guys are like, what's the problem? Sometimes you gotta stop and have one on the way home after a hard day's work. Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, but people are dead because of this. Half the time they'd be four or five deep from the office too. They'd be drinking in the office and they'd drive home, they would stop at the bar for a couple. That was just normal back then.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah, these people were like, you're going to throw me in jail for that? There's an old video of people at an English pub when the day their laws went into effect there that you couldn't drink and drive. And they are, these indignant Brits are fucking hilarious. I'm going to still do it, aye. Yeah, he's like, oh, I'm fucking hilarious. I'm gonna still do it. I yeah, I'm an adult. I'll do what I want. I control my car.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I've been doing it for years. I'm gonna vlog. Do you best stop me tonight? Yeah, because there's a bunch of rubbish one guy says. Oh, that's just rubbish. Now American Bobby's cover carry carry shooters. You ain't even got one of those. What are you gonna do?
Starting point is 01:08:48 I'll keep, I'm looking at it. I just pictured him pointing at his empty belt. What you got there? Nothing? All right then. Caught us to go use the blower to calm more of ya? I don't care. I'm gone by then.
Starting point is 01:09:02 to go use the blower to calm more yet. I don't care. I'm going by then. Okay, so I'll call in some sidelines, Darrell Porter, and they said the article says they have already reconciled themselves to the fact that he's on temporary leave. The next question is, what's it going to be like when he returns? Other player on the team, Pete LeCocque, which is, if you're not a baseball fan, that is a real player. Fantastic. Pete LeCocque. C-O-C-K, Lecock.
Starting point is 01:09:28 He said, I can just hear it now. He'll have a bad game, go something like 0 for 4, and some fan's gonna yell, hey, Darrell, why don't you go have a drink? You know, that's part of it. Not while you're on the team, they'll just be, Lecock? Hey, Lecock.
Starting point is 01:09:41 You drink, you're too much fun. I'm distracted by your teammate's last name. Oh, man. The guy whose last name is French for the cock. Yeah. We've talked a lot about Pete LaCocque in the past. Have we? Oh, God, he's come up 10 times. Why does this feel brand new?
Starting point is 01:09:55 I don't know. He's come up 10 times. I think he's made the exact same jokes every time too. So in effect- I beg, I hope I did. That means that when it hits your brain, your brain thinks- That's all I think of. Well, no, your brain registers it the same every time, which is funny.
Starting point is 01:10:09 So over the years of this show, nine years now, your brain hasn't changed at all. That should be a compliment. As a comedian, you want that. That's good. We need that. Staying even keel. I'm trying to avoid growth at all costs.
Starting point is 01:10:22 As a comedian, it's not good for you. It really isn't. Just going to mess your game up. I'm trying to avoid growth at all costs as a comedian. It's not good for you. It really isn't just gonna mess Only gonna fuck myself up if I try to grow it's not gonna work So they said there isn't even a hint of a smile on the cocks face because he knows it's more serious than that a teammate a friend has a problem alcoholism Great great Darrell it's more serious than that. A teammate, a friend has a problem. Alcoholism. Great. Great.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Darrell. Yeah, be a pal. Yeah, what the fuck? He confided in Joe Burke about the personal problems and all that sort of shit here. According to Ray's father, a service manager at an Oklahoma City auto dealer, his 28 year old son is now undergoing treatment somewhere
Starting point is 01:11:03 he doesn't know where. Ray says he told me he was very disgusted with his life, the drinking he does and his routine. He's been in a situation where it would be easy for any of us to get into a drinking habit and it's awfully hard to break. He has been awfully unhappy with his inability to get straight and he finally decided to dry up. That's his dad, huh? That's his dad saying that. He was awfully unhappy with his inability to get straight, and he finally decided to dry up.
Starting point is 01:11:25 That's his dad, huh? That's his dad saying that. He was getting his shit together, which is great. He said, one of the players on the team, Jamie Quirk, said he's kind of a quiet guy. That's why we were all surprised to find out what happened. In fact, most of us didn't know what was wrong until we read what his father said in the papers.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Yeah. No, he said, some of us thought that the reason he left had something to do with his contract. They'd been bugging him to sign. Then we found out what it was. I never knew Darrell drank that much and I've known him for three years. Yeah, because it's not the drinking that's the problem. It's the drugs. That's his issue.
Starting point is 01:12:00 They said, so he's this quirk, by the way, said he's benefited because he's a backup catcher so now he gets playing time. I mean he's not that disappointed I'm sure. Quirk said I have to look at it two ways. He said I sure hope Darrell works things out for himself at the same time it's a break for me. I've never had a break before. John and I both realize neither one of us is Darrell Porter and I'm sorry I'm getting the chance this way but I have to do the best I can while I have the chance. Like I gotta do my shit. He says though he has a lot of respect for Porter and the guts he has to admit that he has a problem.
Starting point is 01:12:31 He said, how many people can do that? And you know how nasty fans can be. Hey Porter, see you at the nearest bar. There goes the guy with the alcohol problem. I'm sure he had to think about how it was going to be when he comes back if they'd only realized how much of a man it took to stand up and say he had a problem and then he went on to say he wondered how many closet alcoholics are in the league that
Starting point is 01:12:54 don't have the guts to do what Darrell just did. It's gonna be a lot. That is something. So following rehab, he said that he was on the bed in a New York hotel and he had at that point a quote personal experience with Jesus. Okay. Oh, don't say no. People say people can say I felt Jesus's presence or I felt whatever religion you are. I felt the presence of the, of the Lord. His goes a little further than that.
Starting point is 01:13:25 His is complete with fucking like visual hallucinations and shit. Like you know. Yeah, to have that experience in a dingy hotel room. Yeah. I've had experiences in dingy hotel rooms I would never consider it to be Jesus. They weren't, they certainly weren't hallucinatory
Starting point is 01:13:44 either I doubt. That's the thing. They haven't, they certainly weren't hallucinatory either. I doubt that's the thing. They haven't. So between his lack of hitting and this, I, I'm going to say maybe drugs are good for Darrell. Maybe he needs drugs because this is weird. Help him. Yeah. Quote, as if the ceiling opened, I was overwhelmed by the presence of God.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I just knew right then that Jesus, who was the Bible, said he was. Jesus was who the Bible said he was. I knew there was really a God. Life doesn't become perfect, but one thing I haven't been since then is hopeless. Sober he saw this, huh? I don't even know. Yeah, sober. Jesus came through the ceiling. I don't know. Whatever. You don't ever use any drugs ever if you're in brain-stabilizing presenting that. That sounds amazing.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah, that sounds great. So I don't know. We'll see here how this goes. I mean, fuck, if he's gonna kill himself with drugs and pretending that Jesus came out of the ceiling helps you not do that, I guess, whatever. Good for you. So whatever helps.
Starting point is 01:14:41 So May 13th, 1980, this is in the Daily News in New York here. This is, oh, Phil Pepe, he's one of the guys that got in fights with a lot of people and he also co-wrote a lot of books with players. A lot of Billy Martin's book, he co-wrote a bunch of the New York players. He's always like their ghostwriter or co-writer or whatever. He said, in Boston, a fan called him a drug addict. In Chicago, another fan sitting close to the visitors dugout
Starting point is 01:15:07 Shouted to him. Hey Darryl go have another drink People are cruel people are insensitive and they will continue to be cruel and insensitive Darryl Porter Was has hurt a lot, but he has not hurt at all not yet. It did not end for Darryl Porter when he returned From six weeks in a drug and alcohol rehabilitation center and confronted teammates in the clubhouse and told them of his problem. It did not end when he started his first game as a designated hitter a week ago and ripped an RBI triple off the wall against the Red Sox. Darrell Porter struggle may never end. There isn't much that's known about Darrell Porter except except he was the best catcher in the American League last year. That's fine numbers wise. Yeah. He said it took courage to stand there in front of his teammates in the clubhouse and admit to alcoholism and
Starting point is 01:15:51 drug addiction. It took courage for him to open up his closet and reveal all the dirty linen. Yeah that's right. That's fair. So they say playing baseball is the easy part. The two and a half hours of the game trying to hit Tommy John sinker or Ron Gidry slider or goose gossage is heat That's nothing the hard time comes for Darrell in the long empty hours before the game and the loneliness of the road and the cruelty of the fans That's one thing if there's a lot of boredom involved in baseball like When they if they're playing an afternoon game, they're done at fucking four o'clock Yeah, they got the rest of four o'clock. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:25 They got the rest of the night to kill. And you just had to listen to four hours of people that should have been at work yelling at you, calling you horrible names. So what do you do? You know what I mean? You go out to dinner, not get drunk, and come back to your hotel room at eight o'clock
Starting point is 01:16:38 and watch TV. It's tough stuff. Maybe go lay in a hotel bed and wait for Jesus to come through the ceiling. That's amazing. Sounds fun. So he said, when the guy, when that guy said those things in Chicago, this is Pete LeCocq here again.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yeah, very quotable. Pete LeCocq. Darrell didn't do a thing, but I jumped up and began yelling and screaming at the guy. So did a lot of the other guys. To his credit, the guy felt bad and he apologized in front of everybody he just wasn't thinking that's the equivalent of somebody getting fucking railed in the comments of any social media post nowadays I'm sorry I didn't realize my bad that was in real time that's hilarious he said Darrell's exactly the same person he used to be he hasn't changed he's always been a great guy and he's still
Starting point is 01:17:23 a great guy he's had some hard times and you have to respect him for what he did. He admitted he made a mistake and made a decision to do something about it and he's doing it. He's a better person for what he's done. He has a closer relationship with Jesus Christ now. He's my best friend. I've always been close to him but I'm closer to him now. I love Darrell Porter. I'm just glad he's back and not just because he's a great guy because he's my friend. There's a lot of
Starting point is 01:17:48 things more important than baseball. Baseball is the least important thing. Okay. He's rooting hard for him. Jesus Christ. That is fucking something. A Kansas City disc jockey when he came back suggested that everybody who attended the game wear a yellow ribbon The significance of which is in the song tie a yellow ribbon. It means forgiveness around the old oak tree. Yeah Bill Beck the royals traveling secretary said when I go got to the park that night Everybody was wearing yellow at first. I couldn't understand why and he said that in Porter's neighborhood in suburban Kansas City, there's a yellow ribbon on every telephone pole. He said the people of Kansas City have been fabulous.
Starting point is 01:18:29 He's like a folk hero here. Yeah. So yeah. He says though he's not a hero, but he's not a villain either. Said I don't deserve praise or scorn or anything else. Just leave me alone. That's it.
Starting point is 01:18:41 He's just like, I don't wanna, still wanna talk about it anymore. Makes me really wanna go fucking do a line line and that's enough here. So and All year though, there's articles fan abuse next challenge reporter and they're talking about You know multiple people doing that George Brett said baseball fans can be the cruelest most vicious fans of any sport anywhere they have time to think about shit there and Yeah, one of the guys here also said just wait till we go to New York and Chicago. They'll time to think about shit there. And yeah, one of the guys here also said just wait till we go to New York and Chicago, they'll eat them alive. And yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:10 I would say that's that's a tough time in Chicago. They did too. Paul split off a split off another pitcher said I guess it's because he's an aggressive player or something. We could never figure it out. But it's always been merciless how people get on him. He's had to put up with more than his share of abuse anyway I just can't imagine how long he's going to take it it's going to be horrible but I know Darrell and I think he's gonna be able to deal with it and Hal McCrae said he should never have admitted it was a drug problem that was a big mistake He just said he beats off constantly
Starting point is 01:19:41 Yeah, he said that or can't stop fucking knocking his wife around or something. Everybody understands that. I mean, everybody's wife gets mouthy sometimes, right? High five. Wow, yeah, he said that people can take that and say real mean things, personal things. Yeah. McCray said he should have stuck with the alcoholism story. People will accept an alcoholic.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Comedians make jokes about drunks, but nobody makes jokes about drug addicts well I mean fucking Richard Pryor was doing tons of them he hasn't seen any of Richard Pryor's set yeah evidently I mean I think that this guy just doesn't know that there's a bunch of drug addicts out there I guess not or he just thinks it should be you know under keep it under the covers here he said wait till Darrell's in a slump. What do you think these people are gonna blame it on? Darrell's the kind of guy who's always taken a lot from the fans anyway.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Now it's gonna be a thousand times worse. Right. Holy shit, I would say so. So, Littlemore comes out in June of 1980, says loneliness led Porter to the drugs and alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all lonely. He's been drinking like a fish and doing whatever he can get his hands on since the moment he got in the league
Starting point is 01:20:47 But anyway, yeah That's like when Jake the snake Roberts said that I Hockey talk man hitting him with a guitar caused him to be a crackhead. It was like no Jake You were pretty deep into it before that homie. What you talking about? So, yeah this they said He says quote it started with the you know about? So yeah, this they said, he says, quote, it started with a lot, you know what? Let's do it in their own words on this one. He's gonna get all deep and fucking gushy on us here. Let's do it here.
Starting point is 01:21:13 So in their own words, quote, it started with a lot of loneliness. I'd always been a star ever since I started playing baseball. When I started playing pro ball the first year, I got in there with a bunch of people who were just like me for the first time in my career I struggled it was hard. It was work. It wasn't just go out and do it and I was lonely I'd never been away from home before that was the killer the loneliness Okay that in their own words music was made for that statement by the way
Starting point is 01:21:44 I when I put that together nine years ago. I feel like I this was this is exactly really tie onto this, huh? Oh yeah, that in their own words music was made for that statement, by the way. When I put that together nine years ago, I feel like this is exactly what I had in mind. He's leaning on the lonely angle. Absolutely, he said he never was a drinker in high school. He said, I used to be the guy that drove all my friends around. They'd drink and I'd drive.
Starting point is 01:21:59 He said, but at Clinton in Iowa, that's when he was lonely and frustrated, not hitting well. And he said he went to a teammate's room and asked if anybody wanted to go to a bar. And he said, we got out there and we proceeded to get pretty well-soust. It was remarkable. I'd found my answer. No more loneliness.
Starting point is 01:22:16 This is great. Alcohol, way to go. Make me have a good time. Fun, fun, fun. Yeah, this also brings people around that like to do it with me. Yeah. Look at that you see people in bars they're talking and chatting. That's a good time. He said little did I know it always starts that way. Alcohol and drugs are a fun thing. They do what you want them to do. They work. Exactly. Yeah. He said a
Starting point is 01:22:41 whole thing of chemistry that it does inside your body and makes your brain feel things. That's why people do it. He said, I went to Winter Ball and somebody introduced me to marijuana. It started on pot. That was great too. It was really a blast.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I just progressed. One thing just led to another. And in this article, he wouldn't tell what drugs he used, but we know it's whey lids and coke and basically whatever he could get his hands on. At that point. Anything that makes him not feel like him. Yeah, he said, I've always gotta be aware of it
Starting point is 01:23:11 because myself, because I'm a drug addict and an alcoholic and I will be for the rest of my life. It means that I am more or less allergic to alcohol and drugs. It's something I've gotta be constantly aware of. Yep, interesting. He said the counselors at the rehab center tried to prepare him for the questions that would follow his release. He said that he was told it would take 12 to 18 months to get his mind to start functioning normally. He said we were talking about reporters
Starting point is 01:23:37 asking me stuff and he said there are days when I just cannot handle it. There are days when my mind is just a tangled mess. It's hard for me to put things together. It's harder for me to make decisions sometimes. He said, but that will pass. It's going to take me a while. It blows me away. What brings me back is the fact that it will vanish. I did drugs for 10 years, so I've gotta be patient.
Starting point is 01:23:57 It's gonna take some time. So, from here, all the articles are, he is good now. Just finally better. He's doing great. They said he's hitting well, feeling well, and doing well enough in his own personal climb back to the steepest hill of his life that hardly anything bothers him at all.
Starting point is 01:24:17 He's perfect now, nevermind good now. Yeah, he says that he understands in each new city he visits with the Royals, reporters are anxious to speak with him about drugs and alcohol and everything like that He said he doesn't mind he's honest with everybody explains to them that the problem takes a while to lick it And you know blah blah blah, and he said it he said he occasionally feels himself backsliding mentally. That's not good He said that's the point he wishes to straighten out He says I have no desire at all to take another pill or another drink.
Starting point is 01:24:47 He said that's not what I meant by backsliding. He said my brain, my thoughts, not my actions basically. He said naturally it's not all peaches and cream. I pray every day and every night for strength. Drinking or taking drugs is a very subtle disease. It grabs you before you know what's happening. There's a very thin line between being an alcoholic or a drug addict and you usually don't even know when you're crossing that line.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Yeah. He says that he says you know this is his teammates have helped him out a lot. That's good. Pete Lecock is there for him when the cock man's here for you. He's never leaving you. You feel fucking better at that point He said his teammates have kind of after a while reporters will be asking them shitload of questions shitload of questions after a while I'll go. All right, come on guys. You think you fucking broke Darrell's balls enough fear. Let's go and his teammates will kind of
Starting point is 01:25:37 Try to help him which is nice and Yeah, that's good. So and he talks about when he actually, told the general manager that this was going on, but he says, I'm much happier now than I can ever remember being. I went through a lot of misery. Hopefully, it's all behind me.
Starting point is 01:25:57 All right. Yes. He says though, one thing, in July 24th, 1980, he says, it's brought me back home. He said he visited a mental health center Wednesday and mingled with patients, not checked himself in. He went to like, yeah. Do some, is that even community service?
Starting point is 01:26:16 No, he's just like doing, I guess, I just went and met mentally unwell people a little more mentally unwell. Yeah, I just went and told him about my shit and I said if you look toward the ceiling, sometimes Jesus will come out. That's a little crack up there if you guys can watch with me.
Starting point is 01:26:33 That's where he comes from if you see that crack in the plaster. But he went to the people in the drug and alcohol war to talk to them. One was a teenage girl in a detox unit and couldn't wake up, didn't wake up. He said a fist couldn't have punched Porter in the gut harder. He never required detox, so he said it was, you know, that's the way it
Starting point is 01:26:56 was headed. He said, so this is a lot man. He said the first week or so I hated everybody out there. Said talking to a group of patients, he said it's hard to develop the trust, isn't it? Said the only bad part is when they pass the beer down the rows, one of the guys said. He said that he likes going to baseball games, but that's part of it is when there's beers coming in, people hand them, he's like now I'm holding this beer, little pickets on my hands and I'm smelling it.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I don't wanna pass it, I know I can buy it, I just don't want it, I don't wanna pass it. I know I can buy it, I just don't want it. I don't want anybody else to have it. Shit. This guy's a roofer combating what he calls a quote wild turkey problem. That, yep. We don't mean his yard is overwhelmed by them.
Starting point is 01:27:36 No, no. We mean he's. He's got a sincere problem if he's drinking that shit. Yeah, he said his daughter hands the beer around him at games so he doesn't have to hold them. Nice, yeah. Porter chuckled and said the first opportunity Yeah, he said his daughter hands the beer around him at game so he doesn't have to hold them nice Porter chuckled and said the first opportunity I got to go out to go back out into the world was Friday night at the end Of a family week. I was allowed to have dinner with them I remember we passed a big beer sign that said stroze and I guarantee you I smelled beer
Starting point is 01:27:59 I tasted beer and it tasted good. It scared me. He said y'all ever have any drunk dreams yeah yeah and the good one guy said yeah wake up throw your feet over the side of the bed and realize oh lord it didn't happen Porter said some people where I was had some mean hangovers from those then he says this is the roofer quote it's a booger living sober it's a real real booger. A booger? Okay, yeah. It's a real booger to live sober. He said, I can handle all the molehills. It's those damn mountains I have trouble with.
Starting point is 01:28:34 And Porter said, know exactly what you mean, exactly. So that's what they talk about here. And he's walking through the center. He says, how many of these people you suppose were exposed by their parents? When I was married, I had a brother-in-law who committed suicide. Wonder if he wouldn't have been saved if he had something like this to come to. So yeah, he's doing all this shit. He said that, yeah, he was sick and he needed help and he's telling everybody it's okay
Starting point is 01:28:58 to be sick and everything. He said, I was scared and it was hard to open up. I was paranoid. I thought somebody might try to spy on me. I had it figured out how somebody might even sneak in. He said one day a man approached on the lunch line and said, hey, you're Darryl Porter, right? I said, yeah. He said, I'm Rick. Then he started asking me all kinds of questions.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Then that night I found out he was my roommate. I just knew he was a reporter. I ran to my counselor and said, Wendy, he's a reporter, meaning talking and checking into rehab. I just knew he was a reporter. I ran to my counselor and said Wendy he's a reporter, meaning talking and checking into rehab. I just know it. They found me. She told me I had to approach him about it so I did. We had a confrontation. Of course he wasn't a reporter and that helped me get over the fears. Wow. He said that he did some struggled through some group sessions. He said I didn't do a lot of talking in the first week, just a lot of crying and that wasn't easy either you hate them because they were
Starting point is 01:29:48 talking telling the truth we didn't want to hear hitting right hitting it right on the nose that's why it made you so mad I learned a lot about tough luck but the great thing about the group therapy is with all those other alcoholics and drug addicts sitting around you it's just like looking in the mirror which Which, yeah, I would say so. He said, I didn't realize I was such a bad guy until my family came and told me. That hurts. Yeah. He said that one of the weeks, climactic family week, he said I was back in my pajamas. He said I didn't realize I was such a shithead at that point. So yeah, he's doing all this shit. He said his former wife was summoned for their group therapy.
Starting point is 01:30:26 That's gonna help. Soon as she walks in, it's like, who's got the booze? Because now I need a drink. This is all fun and games, but get her the fuck out of here. I needed booze to deal with her when I was married to her. Yeah, that's gonna help. I need much more to deal with this shit.
Starting point is 01:30:41 So he said, now I've learned to take it one day at a time, one at bat at a time, one at bat at a time. That's right. And he's always said he's gonna keep helping everything and help and keep showing up and keep trying to help people doing stuff. He says, for my own experience, I can relate.
Starting point is 01:30:57 I think I can help these people while they're also helping me. There you go. So the next article here, by the way, this is right next to this article, not the next article, literally attached to this article. The sales, Jimmy. Hell yeah. Liquor sales. Happy Hollow Liquors. Attached to it. The man's going to read this. Liquor sales. Lots of people considering maybe rehab or something like that. They're going to read this and they can get Jim Beam, a court for $4.99.
Starting point is 01:31:29 A court. A court. You can get some Johnny Walker Red for $8.29. Beef Eater Gin only $8.99. Smyrnauf $5.89. And get yourself a 12 pack of Paps blue ribbon for $3.19 Three bucks for a 12 pack. Three bucks. You can get a case old style for $6.69.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Holy. A case. Holy shit. So 1980 here, the Darrell is, oh that's the playoffs, doesn't do well in the playoffs. So anyway, he remarries gets a new contract Yeah, he remarries Deanne Galter. Yeah, and they are gonna have three children together as well. Wow He's really got her together. He is pulling it together Lindsay Jeffrey and Ryan and he also signed a five-year three point.5 million contract with the Cardinals, which is great. Five year, $3.5 million contract. He said they'd be going to a new city,
Starting point is 01:32:32 but it was one that was just a few hours away from Kansas City, and Whitey Herzog's the manager, who's his old manager. He said, it all works perfectly here. This is all working out. So he's very, very happy here. He's sitting down at home. He feels great, like nothing can fucking,
Starting point is 01:32:47 nothing can hurt him. Nothing can stop this, yeah. Nothing can fucking hurt him at all. I'm sober, yeah. He's doing fantastic. And wife and kids running around, well not kids yet, but they'll eventually be kids running around.
Starting point is 01:32:58 At one point though, tell you what, that house, he gets a new house obviously, goes to St. Louis. He has a couple of problems and he has to call in someone for some help. And that's Paul Cal a new house obviously goes to st. Louis He has a couple of problems, and he has to call in someone for some help That's Paul Calhoun shit pipe enthusiast. Yeah, he calls in for help and he says How is it you come to arrive here? I mean, I come to your house, you got pipes full of quailu. That's my problem.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I put my, I put a snake down there that came up just fucking pills everywhere. I don't know how you do that. Now I tell you that I'm going to clean your shit pipes and smack your wife, but I think she'll probably go through enough with you. I'm going to imagine you're probably, you're going to have to hear about Jesus coming out of the ceiling and all that kind of thing and I don't know maybe I'll go smack your ex-wife I guess maybe that I don't know something. I mean that's a service I usually don't provide to all my clients
Starting point is 01:33:55 you know what I mean it's just a special few but for you I figure you know maybe you come a long way I don't know but anyway I cleaned that out so try not to put any more quailudes down there that's one of those things in that bottles of shit gin and turkey and whatever else I found I don't know. But anyway, I clean that out. So try not to put any more kwey ludes down there That's one of those things in that bottles of shit gin and turkey and whatever else I found I don't like it and you know, try not to beat the kids. That's one thing. All right, good All right. Have a good one everybody boom and he's and in a big cloud of shit and pipes. He's gone And Darrell's like, okay good advice from Calhoun there. So December 18th, 1980, and more articles. He has so many articles that just talking about the drug problems, and he says in this article,
Starting point is 01:34:31 it's good for me to talk about my drug and alcohol problems. The last thing I wanna do is sit and constantly hear someone talk about their drug and alcohol problems. I get that it's good for them, but imagine if you had to be around them all the time. You'd be like, bro, Jesus, don't you talk about anything else fuck divorced people and
Starting point is 01:34:49 Addicts are some of the worst people that's they talk a lot. I'm like I said happy for you Yeah, good for you, but figure out a way to socially, you know, get this out of your roster, please Move along he By the way gets seven hundred and fifty dollars fee plus expenses for talking to people in some of these places he goes to. But he says he doesn't need the money. He said this is just to do it.
Starting point is 01:35:14 It says Darrell Porter is rich. The catcher signed his St. Louis Cardinals contract the other day for a reported $700,000 a year covering five years. He was married on November 29th. He's happy, contented. Nine months ago, he was considering suicide. He was nearly broke after squandering $750,000 in baseball salary. His cocaine habit cost him $1,000 a week.
Starting point is 01:35:37 That's not bad. But he said, Don Newcomb, that kicked it all in, that speech. So he said, the welcome home Darrell Porter affection was signified by yellow ribbons tied around mailboxes trees and utility poles He said he just felt like everyone was so nice to him and you know That said he was like it felt great to have people take me back He said it's time to be honest we have to admit there's a drug and alcohol problem in the schools everywhere Oh in the school in the schools everywhere. Oh, in the schools? In the schools.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Drugs and alcohol are cunning and tricky. They'll fool you. They come up dressed like your mother and then it's not. It's just a trench coat full of quail. Yeah. They're like the Stranger Things monster from the fucking Master of Puppets season. They come to you looking like somebody else in a whole other form. It's just quailudes.
Starting point is 01:36:30 It's just a pile of quailudes. I thought it was my grandma. Turns out, pile of quailudes. I had no idea. I got to eat all of them. My grandmother's going, please, the only way to save me is to eat me. I need to eat all of them. All of them.
Starting point is 01:36:46 He said they're cunning and tricky. They'll fool you. Drugs and alcohol kill more people than cancer. That is not true. Not true. Maybe more than heart disease also. Not true. Not even close.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Drugs and alcohol can alter them, especially not back then. We might be getting close to it with opioids now, but we didn't have the, we weren't handing out oxycontin by the fucking handful back then of everybody under the fucking sun. I think drugs is still fourth or fifth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:12 It's still below car accidents. That's what I mean, yeah, they add it up. It's probably not that much compared to heart disease, is what I'm saying, yeah. Oh, not even close. Not even close. They said they can kill drugs, maybe more than heart disease. Drugs and alcohol alter the mind, destroy the liver,
Starting point is 01:37:27 and can cause heart trouble too. They cause auto accidents. I'm very lucky to be alive. All my problems increased last winter. I turned to drugs more and more. I became paranoid. I thought people were chasing me. I was afraid to answer the doorbell or answer the telephone.
Starting point is 01:37:42 So I wrote, I always feel like somebody is watching me and let Michael Jackson sing the hook, that's what happened. Don't answer the door or the phone? No, or the phone. Yeah, not even the phone here. Okay. So now this is a big story of his addiction and his overcoming the addiction
Starting point is 01:38:02 and going to these schools and how important and how sneaky drugs and alcohol is, and directly, directly under that in the newspaper is beer specials, Old Milwaukee, 12-pack, 2.90. You know, maybe he's got a point. Maybe this is the worst epidemic on the planet with this much alcoholism going on. Maine liquor on 279 West Main champagne Get some cold duck for two dollars and nine cents. That's how good alcohol is James
Starting point is 01:38:34 You can have an article about how a guy lost everything because of alcohol then advertise it right below And then and then be like oh good vodka's on sale They got the strobe back I gotta stop there get some strobes. It's cheap. Oh My god So yeah all of every article is just this unbelievable They follow him where he goes and they quote him a lot and this is from drugs went from ecstasy to dependency Yeah, he said at first it seemed like I did play him a lot. And this is from, drugs went from ecstasy to dependency. He said, at first it seemed like I did play baseball
Starting point is 01:39:09 a lot better, but pretty soon I couldn't function until I took that greenie, the speed, which is all the guys back then. He said his choice of drugs was Quaaludes, but he took amphetamines or speed before he went to the ballpark, and after a time, his drug use and drinking began to affect his judgment. He said that one time Reggie Jackson had a home run off a pitcher,
Starting point is 01:39:31 one of their pitchers, and Jackson stepped to the plate the next time, Porter gave the same sign and Jackson had another home run. He said, I don't know how many times my mind didn't function properly, he said, but that was one of them, I didn't know how many times my mind didn't function properly. And he said, but that's, was one of them where I didn't even realize you keep track of that shit as a catcher back then when you had to call the game and go, okay, well he hits inside fastballs. Don't do that. He said, I couldn't understand why people wanted to just be normal when you could take pot, coke and quail ludes and feel ecstasy.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Wonder the same thing all the time. He said I one day I woke up after doing coke, beer, and smoking pot and the guys told me I danced on a pool table in my underwear. He said, I was very shook up because I'm a pretty modest guy. He didn't even remember it. It's his underwear, man.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Yeah, he didn't like fucking rape a nun. That would have been like, oh shit, what am I doing? You play sports. Are you not at least down to your underwear in the locker room? Come on, yeah. Who gives a shit? Ric Flair did way worse than that in bars for fucking 50 years.
Starting point is 01:40:31 So he said his co-cabit cost him over $1,000 a week, but he had easy access to Quaaludes and Speed through doctor's prescriptions. Easy. He said it was easy. He was able to continue in baseball and have the best year of his career because he devoted all of his efforts outside of drugs to baseball.
Starting point is 01:40:47 He said, I worked very, very hard at baseball because that was the one thing I had left. And he said his addiction to stimulants became so bad that it made him paranoid of everything. He said, nine months ago, I couldn't go shopping in a supermarket because I was too paranoid. When I was out driving, I was sure there was an army after me. Oh, my God. He's a fucking mess, man. That's not great. But now he's doing so great, yada yada fucking yada here. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:41:13 By the way, right under this is Ferguson Jenkins here pleading guilty or found guilty in provincial court in Canada on a charge of possession of cocaine. He had four grams of coke, two ounces of weed, and two grams of hash. Fergie, Hall of Famer Fergie. Oh my God, so 1981, St. Louis Cardinals, let's see how all of this talk happens on the field. Now, 81's another strike season,
Starting point is 01:41:42 so they kinda had two halves of the season. Overall, they were 59-43-1, first in the NL East total here with Whitey Herzog. And they said the Cardinals made life tough for him because they had traded popular all-star catcher Ted Simmons for him. So when you're replacing a popular guy that's tough. He said, Porter said from day one a few of the Cardinals fans took an instant dislike to me. The vendetta by the St. Louis fans really hurt me. Things got worse and worse and gradually it affected my game to the point where I hated coming to the stadium.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Really? People on his shit. Yeah. Which is exactly what they wanted So that's interesting to all to follow famers on this team Jim cat and fucking Bruce suitor both on this team here He has a terrible slump He threw April and May he hit 173 And then on June 12th 81 the players went on strike, which he was probably like thank fuck Wow think about it I am hitting like shit, this is great. So then as the work stoppage happens, he went fishing. Sure.
Starting point is 01:42:53 That's his thing. Then one day, he said he drank a beer. Then he drank a few more beers. Oh no. Yeah. He's back in it. He said an alcoholic and a drug addict for that matter is never cured. Yeah, he said all his life He said an alcoholic and a drug addict for that matter is never cured
Starting point is 01:43:06 Yeah, he said all his life. He is only a recovering alcoholic addict one taste of beer one snort of coke or whatever can put him back into the gutter I Don't like that. By the way, I'm not a scientist or a doctor or anything and I've heard Wildly different takes from different doctors about this different, because nobody knows what the fuck is better. Nobody really knows. It depends on the person. You don't know the person and how they react until after it's done.
Starting point is 01:43:31 We're all different. Chemical makeup is different. That's the problem. Mentally, I feel like going, this thing, I'm never out from under it is a terrible mental thing. Some people, it would be good because they would feel like, oh, there's a pressure there to not do it. Whereas some people, I would think it would be good because they would feel like, oh, there's a pressure there to not do it, whereas some people I would think
Starting point is 01:43:48 it would be like, no, if I beat it, I beat it, go fuck yourself, if I'm not doing it, I'm not an addict. How can you be an addict when you're not doing something? But then at the same time, doctors will say, well, because you have that tendency for the addiction. So I mean, I've heard it on both sides. Sure. Just as a layman sitting here, if it's me, I'm not going to sit here and go, well,
Starting point is 01:44:10 it's, it's, it's got me forever. What am I a fucking kind of pussy? Am I? No, I'm going to say, but when they say that, it lets me know I'm better than this. Fuck. You've done terrible things. I want to know every story.
Starting point is 01:44:23 And it lets me know that I can't even go near them with a drink because they will drink it and then drink 20 more, possibly. And I don't wanna fuck that up. I feel bad for people that can't have. I do too. I feel terrible for them. Just the one. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:44:36 That's gotta be such a fucking nightmare. I feel bad for them too. Yeah, you go out with your wife and have a bottle of wine and be satisfied with that. And some people are like, that's good appetizer. Now let's get going to the real drinking. Yeah, now let's party. Yeah, that's tough, man.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Yikes. So he said one- Or the people that have the chemical makeup that it shuts their fucking brain off. And then in the morning, they don't even know what they did. And then they're dancing in their underwear. That's crazy. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 01:45:01 I've never done it. Me neither, I've never had a blackout in my life. I'm not, you know me, I'm not a heavy drinker. I don't like. I've never done it. Me neither, I've never had a blackout in my life. You know me, I'm not a heavy drinker. I don't like it very much. I hope a smoker. I wish I did. I wish I did have blackouts, because then I'd never drink.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Yeah, that might help. But I just happen to be able to gut a whole bunch of it. Yeah. And you're fucking fine. I just know if I have more than this much I'm not gonna feel good so yeah yeah and I have that too I'm still a puke or even though I can gut it all I remember when we had our martinis that day. When it's just too much mass I'll push it back. That night we probably had 18 ounces of vodka each. It's too much.
Starting point is 01:45:45 We had a quote unquote friendly bartender, which is great except when you don't want to have 18 ounces of vodka at a steakhouse. A friendly bartender will torture you. They'll then have me throw up a $40 T-bone after that. Still buttery on its way up. It was delicious, they did a great its way up. It was delicious. They did a great job with it.
Starting point is 01:46:06 I'm not it's not the steaks fault at all. Yeah. So anyway, he said one taste of beer, one snort of Coke or whatever can put him right back into the gutter. Yeah. 1981. Speaking of the gutter, he's hitting 224 this year with six homers and 31 ribbies. So I'm going to go ahead and say it.
Starting point is 01:46:24 He was better player when he was on drugs. Not that he should be doing drugs, but he was a better. That also has to do with the fact that he's about turning 30 too, which physically you're not gonna have the same gifts as you had at a younger age. Perhaps the age right along with. It's all a coincidence and yeah, all wrapped up in itself.
Starting point is 01:46:44 It's all contributing to each other. It's all a coincidence and yeah all wrapped up in itself. It's all contributing to each other. It's all contributing. So 82 St. Louis Cardinals 92 and 70 first in the NL East they win the NLCS over the Braves that year and then go to the World Series against who? The Brewers. Oh damn it. His old team and they win in seven games in 82 So he's got a ring my friend. He is all ringed up here So what what happens he has a beer gets a ring? You think you'd go Jesus. Yeah, this is all my success is coupled with the drink Something yeah, he hit 231 that year with 12 homers 48 ribbies So I mean he's not really crushing it anymore 120 games that year
Starting point is 01:47:29 So his games played her down a little bit But god damn it if he doesn't have a fucking ring and he did well in the playoffs to hit 351 with a homer and six reviews that year so he was the 1982 NLCS most valuable player and the World Series MVP. What? So hot as a fucking, hotter than a $2 pistol, as they say in the South there.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Yeah, that is, wow, something, that is great. He was the only, at the time, the second player in baseball history to win both awards in a single postseason, the other being Willie Stardrill of the Pirates in 79. God damn. So came upon it right at it.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Now if hopefully he was clean for that because then you'd go, okay, I can do this, that clean. I will do it clean. Yeah, because there has to be a mental thing. Even if you believe that obviously, oh, drugs didn't help me play baseball. There is a mental thing with every ballplayer and really with everybody comedians everybody that you have Routines and if you did this the car you this caused this effect You know, well, I I listened to that song earlier and had a great set
Starting point is 01:48:37 So it must be that song helps my brain have a great that's you Start looking for shit like that. So if I I'm a great player I stopped doing all the things I did maybe now that's I'm not gonna be a great player anymore That's got to be in your head. I would think that would be in my head. Anyway, so 70 or 83 It's the Cardinals are 79 and 83. So not very good that year So yeah, they don't go back to the playoffs. Oh, well, he hits 262 with 15 homers and 66 ribbies. So that's really good actually. It's not bad for him.
Starting point is 01:49:11 145 games. And Porter spoke to reporters about the team's struggles and his battles with addiction. He says, I guess I keep talking about it because it might be some kind of safeguard against me doing it again. But he also said, I could get back into drugs again and no one would know because they didn't know before.
Starting point is 01:49:28 I could get back in. He's like, you don't know what I'm on right fucking now, do you? No. So 84 season 80, they go 84 and 78 and finished third in the NL East that year, which is fine. Now, in 84, he wrote an autobiography titled Snap Me Perfect. What? Which detailed his life and his substance abuse here.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Snap Me Perfect. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means, yeah. He said that, yeah, he started to wear down to it around this year, he's about 32 years old, so he's starting to wear down. As a catcher, that's getting getting up there catching a lot of games. Herzog wrote, Darrell Porter was just not producing. He'd gotten his life turned
Starting point is 01:50:11 around after kicking his drug habit but in the process he'd lost his aggressiveness. Your balls out-ness you've lost. Yeah. Yeah. Not willing to take that charge at home plate anymore. Not quite the same, no. 85, they go 101 and 61 this year. That's not bad. That's great. 1985, very good. First in the NL East, they beat the Dodgers in six games in the NLCS, and then they go
Starting point is 01:50:37 to the World Series against who? The Royals, his other fucking old team. How amazing is that? That's great, And that's a seven game series and they win that series four to three as well. It's got two rings. He's got two fucking rings, one each against his old teams that didn't want him. No, she has to feel great. That has to feel great. Yeah. Going up and make sure you go stop by and say hi to the owner on the way out. Hey buddy, how's it going? You like losing to me? I guess you do. So yeah, this year he goes 221 with 10 home runs
Starting point is 01:51:10 and 36 ribbies and only 84 games. It's kinda starting to fall off. He hits 200 in the playoffs this year. So if Whitey, by the way, who's in charge of this team and now is like fucking a dictator for life basically if you just won two World Series in St. Louis, if he doesn't want you on the team, you're probably gonna be shit-canned off the team.
Starting point is 01:51:34 And in 85, after the 85 season, the Cardinals released Terry Porter. Terry Porter, that's the ball player, Darrell Porter. Why'd I say Terry, poor Terry Porter. Shipped him off to Portland. They realized he's much better at basketball and sent him to Portland. Better served at feeding Drexler the Rock.
Starting point is 01:51:50 They said, oh shit, we thought he was a baseball player. Our bad. Why did we draft him? Yeah, Terry Porter had an infamous quailude habit before he came to the NBA. Huge, big time. That's why he got out of the majors, man. He couldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:52:04 It was all quailudes. Saw Jesus come through a crack in the ceiling and he was shooting jumpers tomorrow. So, 1986. These signs with the Texas Rangers. Jesus, how old is he at this point? 34. Pushin' 34 at this point.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Yeah, that's tough for a catcher. The Rangers do take a flyer on old men a lot, though. They don't give a shit,er. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher.
Starting point is 01:52:30 He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher.
Starting point is 01:52:36 He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher.
Starting point is 01:52:43 He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's a good catcher. He's, that's fun. He was the manager there. Rangers, I'm looking over there. That's a tough roster. No Hall of Famers on that roster, put it that way. None of those. 86, he hits 265, he only plays in 68 games, but he hits 265 with 12 homers and 29 ribbies.
Starting point is 01:53:01 So that's the best he's hit in a while. He led Major League Baseball in home runs per at bat, or at bats per home run, I guess is a better way to put it. He had a home run every 12.9 at bats, which was the best ratio for any player with 10 or more homers that season. All right, and he also broke his ankle during the 86th season and was on the disabled list for eight weeks.
Starting point is 01:53:25 So. Kind of need those. Yeah, that time I guess, that was the time maybe he would have been slumping, so good for him. 87, the Rangers again, and is this the same exact record? No, they were 87 and 75 last year. This year they're 75 and 87. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:40 And sixth place in the AL West. Not wonderful at all here. Not good, and Darrell hits 238 with seven homers, 21 ribbies, and it's really winding down for him. 85 games, he appears in his last game on October 4th, 1987, and then retires at 35. Okay. He realized his body just can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Right, can't do it anymore. And you're not a big. That's the end of the season, right? Yeah, that's the end of the season. He's not a big bat where they could just put him at DH. He's an average hitter, so it's kind of pointless. So in retirement, all he does is talk about his Christian faith and struggles with addiction
Starting point is 01:54:23 and it's his deal that he does. He goes around, he makes speeches. Yeah, makes a couple of bucks there. And he dabbled in some real estate and several businesses, tried a little broadcasting. He had an antique business. Oh. That's what he was trying to do.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Hosted a weekly radio show in Kansas City. He wanted to join the Royals radio booth and be like a color guy there, but that would quite happened here. Along with a couple other guys he knows, he worked with Enjoy the Game, which is a youth program that encourages good sportsmanship at athletic events
Starting point is 01:54:55 and a positive environment for students and parents. Darrell said, that's what I was like, oh, that sounds boring as fuck. Let's get that fucking Coke and Quaaludes back out here. I'm bored. If I had to do that, I would get right the fuck back into drugs, putting up with the positivity. It's too much.
Starting point is 01:55:10 I'd be like, I gotta get hammered when this is over. Somebody's gotta be negative today. Whew, fuck that. Yeah, he says, what it teaches is respect for your teammates or peers, the coaches or teachers, and to respect authority and the rules and to do what's right. That's just what I wanted to hear as a teenager. I'd be like, oh, so this sucks, okay, thanks.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Tell me everything I have to do and I won't fight back at all. I won't rebel. I will not, no. At the same time, during this time, his weight goes from about 220 pounds in his playing days to over 300 pounds. What happened?
Starting point is 01:55:46 Balloons the fuck up. Not working, not playing baseball. Yeah, I mean baseball's a lot of walking, a lot of exercise. You get your steps in as a major leaguer. A lot of core exercises back there behind the plate, crouch down like that. The sweating you do all summer
Starting point is 01:56:00 with that equipment on behind the plate. No matter what you do, you're losing 10 pounds a day in water weight. And you gotta, that's crazy. So, that's rough, man. You could probably barely even recognize him at that size. Like barely even recognize him, which is interesting because other people with the same name,
Starting point is 01:56:18 you might not recognize. We have here with mistaken identities. Oh boy. Here is one from 1977, the Kansas City Times. This is just funny. Don't call this Darryl Porter, it says. Last December, Darryl Porter was traded to the Royals from the Brewers, and the 24-year-old catcher recalls
Starting point is 01:56:37 the trade the greatest thing that ever happened to him. The Darryl Porter who's listed in the white pages of the telephone directory doesn't share the same enthusiasm. Uh-oh. He got mistaken identity hard. who's listed in the white pages of the telephone directory doesn't share the same enthusiasm. He got mistaken identity hard. His life hasn't quite been the same since the deal was made. He said ever since the beginning of the season he's received phone calls from young people, mostly girls, asking if this is the residence of Darrell Porter, the baseball player. He's too... Luckily this guy's a half decent guy because he could really be a scumbag.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Oh God, yeah he could be. Oh yeah, this is Darrell Porter. Come over. It's just a fat guy with a glove on and a bat over his shoulder. I play baseball, come here, you wanna have a catch? I'll have a catch with you, come on. Catch these balls.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Catch, I got some balls for you to catch. He says it varies from day to day. Usually I get one or two each day, but yesterday I got three. He said at first it was amusing in a way way but now it's gotten to be a little bit bothersome. My wife doesn't think much of it either. Oh? They say, those who call apparently don't follow the schedule of the Royals as the team was on the road Sunday but they apparently follow catcher Porter's
Starting point is 01:57:39 marital status quite closely. He said, they want to give their names and addresses. I didn't realize the young girls were so ambitious. Yeah, if you're famous and handsome, yeah, they're ambitious. If you're you, maybe not. More often than not, the person calling will first ask if this is the house of Darrell Porter, the baseball player, and Mr. Porter, this Porter who is 60 will tell them no. Sometimes the person won't even ask. He said, I've thought about getting my phone number changed, but I don't really want to do that. He says that he doesn't really want to be an answering service for the Royals catcher at that point either though.
Starting point is 01:58:14 There's also Darrell Porter, medical doctor. Oh, oh my Jesus Christ. Chief executive officer at CTRL therapeutics in San Francisco he does biopharmaceutical leadership shit I don't even know what the fuck that is and finally and Darrell Porter I don't even know what this is FMI Fin Ray dot solar Fin Ray solar solar solar place in Pennsylvania yeah he's the president of Fin Ray so and says he's self-employed So I think he has his own solar company is what we're getting at here And then finally Darrell Porter marketing coordinator at logistics the logistic Dynamics company and he went to the New York College went to SUNY Buffalo. Oh
Starting point is 01:59:01 Yeah 2000 comes up your 2000. So Darrell just sits back fat and happy here. In 2000, he was inducted into the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame. Oh! Which he probably should be in the Oklahoma Sports Hall of Fame, right? Well, did he play?
Starting point is 01:59:18 But he played for Kansas City and St. Louis. Yeah. Yeah, but I meant like all the Jim Thorpe stuff and everything like that. I suppose. August I mean, like all the Jim Thorpe stuff and everything like that. August 5th, 2002, Porter lives in Lees Summit, Missouri and he leaves his home saying he was going to buy a newspaper and go to the park. Let's sit at the park and read a newspaper. So that afternoon, 5.26 PM in Sugar Creek, Missouri, he was found dead outside his vehicle.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Oh my god. The autopsy on him finds he died from... Give you one guess what he died from. Toxic effects of cocaine. He still did... he did coke the whole fucking time. Yep. He is 50. This son of a bitch. He is 50, you motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:00:04 He snowed everybody. Literally. Yeah son of a bitch. He was 50, you motherfucker. He snowed everybody. Literally. Yeah. Snowed them. Unbelievable. And himself. What a guy. What a fucking guy.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Yep, he said, that's crazy. He said, I'm gonna get a paper and go to the park. He was gonna go do some coke, is what he was doing. He was going to do blow. Wow. I'm gonna go get some, go to the park and do cocaine, is what he said. Unbelievable. Did he have a newspaper with him? I didn't see any. That's what I'm wondering go get some, go to the park and do cocaine, is what he said. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Did he have a newspaper with him? I didn't see any. That's what I'm wondering too. Did he actually get the newspaper? Did he get the paper or was he just bullshitting? The autopsy indicated that the level of cocaine in his system, consistent with recreational use, induced a condition called excited delirium,
Starting point is 02:00:41 a diagnosis by the way that was rejected later on by the medical community that has found that that's not what happens, but at the time they called it that. That caused his heart to stop. Police theorized that his car went off the road and got caught on a tree stump there, and he got out of the car, walked to the nearby Missouri River, then walked back to his car for some reason.
Starting point is 02:01:01 That's what they found evidence of. So he had it in, so he did coke and then took a drive. Took a drive. Hit something. Went off the road, went down to the river, maybe to throw whatever he had out and then come back. The cops to come. Authorities initially speculated he overheated while trying to push the car off the stump because it was hot and humid, but there's no evidence to indicate that he ever tried to move the car. Oh, he panicked because he was high and he knew people were going to find out
Starting point is 02:01:28 that he was fucking high. Went down to the river, threw the rest of the shit out, and came back. Came back up and the panic took its toll. He's 50. You can't do coke in your 50s. No, you can't do coke forever like that. Are you Keith Richards or Hunter Thompson?
Starting point is 02:01:41 If not, I don't want to hear it. Can't do it. You're not conditioned for it. Your body is not ready for this shit, no. So the exact details are unknown, but we do know he died from cocaine overdose. Too much cocaine. Cocaine strain mixed with being 300 pounds. 300 pounds.
Starting point is 02:01:56 You can't do that. Hot and humid. It's gonna kill you. Probably walked up a hill from the river. Most rivers, there's a hill from the. Human hearts can't take that shit. No, God no. Like I said, unless you're one of very few specific people it seemed to have. And they're not 300 hill. No god no. Like I said unless you are one of very
Starting point is 02:02:05 few specific people it seemed to happen. And they're not 300 pounds. That's the other thing. They're very thin. Their heart can handle it. Barely doing it and without it. I said Keith Richards, Hunter Thompson. You combine the two of them it's like 195 pounds. The two of them together. Their hearts handle that this shit is crazy No shit So a thousand people attended his memorial service on August 9th at the Nolan Road Baptist Church in Independence, Missouri And a smaller service was held in Raytown, Missouri as well Longtime friend and former teammate Jerry Terrell said so all I've got to say is this Darrell. I love you, man I really miss you. Thanks for the memories.
Starting point is 02:02:45 Yeah. And I'm mad at you for lying to me for 15 years. What the fuck, bro? Yeah. So they talk about, there's an article here that says, that's good enough for me from the Kansas City Star. And it says, Daryl Porter and later Cowboys linebacker Thomas Hollywood Henderson, another Hollywood alum here, another alum from Crime and Sports. And eventually we're going to do a bonus episode talking about all of his
Starting point is 02:03:09 party stories from his book that he wrote, Thomas. They're incredible. Orgies with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, I believe, and some other crazy shit. It's funny. Will Chamberlain. Yeah, not got Kareem. Will. Yeah, that's the smooch Kareem's good. Kareem wouldn't have wanted that many people around. Like, I understand you're naked women, but can we maybe one or two of you and the rest of you please leave? Right. I have a migraine. So, they said, taught us that the combination of performance, pressure, insecurity, and
Starting point is 02:03:37 fame could crumble our allegedly super strong sports heroes just as easily as a thespian. Porter had no idea how sports fans would react to his disturbing admissions. Would he be loved or loathed? Seen as weak or strong? Of course, now we know the fans continued to love him. Maybe fans loved the fact that Porter didn't wallow in his weakness. He fought it. And that's what I give Porter the most credit for.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Fighting his demons. Too many of us never mustered the strength and faith to fight. From all that we know, Porter put up a good fight. He deserves our respect and death. In no way am I trying to portray Porter's weakness as a virtue. His battle to overcome drug use is not heroic in the same manner as a man or woman who conquers a tragedy outside his or her control. But who knows how much control Porter had over the forces that caused him to get high?
Starting point is 02:04:24 We don't know. What do we what we do know is that Porter dealt with this problem head on. We know that when Porter discovered a faith in God, he attempted to do the right thing in his community. That's good enough for me. Sure is. So whole article. So now August 12 2002 from ESPN, they say a doctor says he didn't die of an overdose
Starting point is 02:04:46 No, he died of I mean there's what's the difference? Yeah, they said that he had cocaine in a system when he died and Paul split our said if this drug can kill someone as tough as Darrell Porter, it's too powerful to mess around with He said let's hope that people remember the circumstances of his death because you don't want kids questioning what he was trying to tell them. You don't want that loss just because it was too powerful for even Darrell to resist. That should be the message. Don't even start. Okay.
Starting point is 02:05:15 So 300 pounds and do coke. That doesn't help. Yeah. Fuck. They said that he had a recreational use amount in the system, consistent with recreational use. So I think he just likes to do coke sometimes. Yeah, and maybe, I mean, any time you do coke and die
Starting point is 02:05:33 because of the toxicol, the toxic nature of it, he died of the, that's what the report said, toxic, whatever the fuck, of coke. Yeah, that's what the autopsy said. That's, that's, yeah, it's yeah, it's not, I guess an overdose technically there's different ways of splitting those hairs, but you did coke and died, period, that's it. Would you have died without the coke?
Starting point is 02:05:55 Probably not, okay then, there you go. Coke killed you, that's it. Sounds like an overdose, I mean a little bit. Just the dose was too much for you, whatever the dose was. For you, yeah. So the doctor though here says, this is the Jackson County medical examiner, Dr. Thomas Young, said that it's a condition
Starting point is 02:06:12 called excited delirium, which causes excessive body temperature, behavior that's agitated, bizarre, and potentially violent, and stopped his heart. The doctor said heat exposure in an enlarged heart, which is common among drug users or those with high cholesterol contributed to his death. So, um, yeah, uh, they said one statement here from his teammate, ex teammate, Jerry Terrell said for 22 years, Darrell remained
Starting point is 02:06:37 sober. The fact that he failed shows us the evils of drug and the power of disease. Are you a fucking moron? This guy just said he went to rehab and then never did drugs again till he did him that one day and died That's what this guy just said he was clean. He literally said he remained sober for 22 years You don't know horse and there's no way I'm gonna say bullshit right off the bat just based on you know, it's impossible. There's no way No way logic and common sense. So one of his friends here, Bill Stutz, said I saw him in July and thought it was taken care of.
Starting point is 02:07:14 I thought he looked like himself again. So apparently he had a little problem up here and some people knew and some people didn't obviously here. They said that he had left a note at home saying that he planned to go to the park and read and listen to music and that's how it works here. So they said that you know he's got his book out there and everything else. So August 14th 2002 Strong mistress cocaine creates sad end for Porter there is the article here and that's more like what it is here. So he Couldn't shake cocaine. That's it. And he I guess he partied a lot and It's a problem for him
Starting point is 02:08:00 And so they talk about last week many people have written or called to say they could hear they could tell their Daryl Porter story he did touch so many people One remembers a huge collision at first base against the White Sox another remembers a handshake at the mall Another remembers being inspired when Porter spoke So there you go. He he ends up anyway 247 career batting average in 1782 games and he had a 188 home runs, 826 RBI, 354 on base percentage, four-time All-Star, good defensive catcher, little pop in the bat, so not too shabby at all.
Starting point is 02:08:37 And he was ranked, as of 2009, he was ranked 21st on the all-time list for home runs by a catcher and 20th on the all-time RBI list for a catcher. So, not bad at the time. He's retired. He was a top 20 catcher of all time. Not bad. He also caught two no-hitters during his career, which is a big deal. Really? Yeah, it means you're calling the game. So, it's half yours. You know what I mean? So, that's not bad. He was also notable for being one of the few major league catchers of his time to wear glasses behind the plate at a time when most players would use contact
Starting point is 02:09:12 lenses so there you go he is buried here at the where's the long view funeral home and cemetery in Kansas City so there go, he's got a pretty normal tombstone. Oh, his wife died too. Really? I guess. First or last? Looks like Deanne, April 26th. Oh no, nevermind, his wife's, that's her born date.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Oh, okay. Yeah, 1960, April 25th, 1906. So I think that's his wife, as will be buried there when she dies. Yeah, that's how that goes. That's her born day. And they'll just slap the other on the end of it there.
Starting point is 02:09:51 That's not bad here. Let me bolt that down as soon as, yeah, she's gonna share the plot with him, huh? Yeah, looks like it. People stole his letters. What? Off his, yeah. Off his headstone? The courtesy of the cemetery and it says D Porter,
Starting point is 02:10:08 but there's no, the rest of the letters are gone. So I don't know if people stole them or if they just decided D was good enough. Cheaper for the, what is it, is it D-A-R-Y-L? D-A, no, his is D-A-R-R-E-L-L. I don't think it fits there. Doesn't fit, no. Two R's, two L's.
Starting point is 02:10:26 I think they just did D-Porter for his. Yeah, they didn't want to misspell it. Is that all they could afford? How many? Is it two R's, one L, two L's, one, what? Two and two? It's not two and two, right? Is that all they could afford?
Starting point is 02:10:36 I don't know. I'm putting D. Fuck this, I'm done. Well this says courtesy of the cemetery, so I think they put this out. Okay, yeah, so they did. This is one of those little flower things in it for him. So can't get enough of Darrell Porter. Well, you can get a 1980s Kellogg's 3D Darrell Porter card, gem mint 10 out of 10, perfect here, $129.99 for that.
Starting point is 02:11:01 Not bad. 10 out of 10 gem, that's not bad. And then also, you can also try some coke to honor mr. Carter Porter. His fucking memorabilia is expensive where's his ring I want one of his rings. I don't know much about coke these days yeah but I will say that I if you look it up on the internet it says the average cost is about 7575 to $1.20 a gram. That's not cheap, man. Which honestly, inflation has not affected cocaine much.
Starting point is 02:11:30 That's not much more than it was in the 90s. Let's be honest. No. No. It really wasn't. It's a little more than it was, right? A little bit, but not much. Especially in like middle America, I bet you were paying hundred bucks a gram for fucking coke in 1995 in middle America
Starting point is 02:11:46 You know what I mean in New York City. You're paying less because sure the fuck there's a lot in here Market flooded. What do you want from me? Prices Larry vary by location lower prices closer to the border of course at LA in LA You can get Graham for as low as $10. So for shit, step on crap also. And it can be fluctuated a lot obviously here. You can also get a Darrell Porter 1985 Tops autographed card to Scotty Darrell Porter. So if your name is Scotty and you really like Darrell Porter. You can get one that feels personal.
Starting point is 02:12:21 $99.99 or best offer. So you got that and then you can also get a 1978 tops Darrell Porter just card six cents. That's it. Six cents. Yeah. Six cents. Just give that away. Just just fucking shipping. Yeah. Just fuck it. Just do that. So there you go. That is Darrell Porter here. By the way, there's a couple other very quick updates we'll do here. One is the Duke lacrosse scandal since we did that. Yeah, she's a dick man. Yes on December 12th 2024 she admitted to fabricating the whole scandal, which we already knew that anyway, which is stupid.
Starting point is 02:13:00 We did the whole episode about it here, But she admits that she lied about the allegations, she made her confession in an interview published on Let's Talk with Kat, hosted by Katarina Di Pasquale at the North Carolina Correctional Institution for Women. Unrelated to the La Crosse case, Crystal Magnum, as we said in the bonus episode, was in prison currently after being convicted of second degree murder of her boyfriend in 2013. She killed the man.
Starting point is 02:13:28 She's a prize, boy, this one. She's a bad, bad woman. Holy shit. She said, quote, I testified falsely against them by saying that they raped me when they didn't, and that was wrong, and I betrayed the trust of a lot of other people who believed me. She said, I made up a story that wasn't true
Starting point is 02:13:43 because I wanted validation from people and not from God. Yeah, so that is now the, I mean, everybody knew it, but she never said it, but now it's like 100,000% absolutely, nothing fucking happened to her at all. She said nothing fucking happened to her in this, and she says, I hope the players can heal and trust God and know that God loves them and God is loving them through me letting them know that they're valuable. You keep, you keep, if God's love gets any of yours on it on the way to me I
Starting point is 02:14:15 don't want it anymore. If anything you do to people is based through God, holy fuck that, what did that poor man do that you murdered? That is fucking. Why was God so mad at him? Wild, then she said she referred to the three accused players as her brothers, saying they didn't deserve the accusations. And then also a Adam Pac-Man Jones update always. This is like our third one from him. He's so fun.
Starting point is 02:14:42 He is a good time here. Pac-Man on November 16th, 2024 was arrested after the Tyson-Jake-Paul fight. So we were in Austin doing a show and he was getting arrested here. He gets arrested, Arlington police say that he was involved in a fight in the bar area of the Lowe's Arlington Hotel near AT&T Stadium
Starting point is 02:15:03 just after 1 a.m. Of course he was. An off-duty Arlington police officer working security arrived after the fight had been broken up but said that Jones continued to approach and yell at the other people involved in the fight. He's a problem. And throw Popeyes at them. The Arlington police say the female officer told Jones Jones if he tried to fight again he'd be arrested. Shortly after that, another fight broke out in the bar involving Jones. When the officer and hotel security worked to break the fight up, Jones hit the officer
Starting point is 02:15:33 in the arm. She then told Jones she was placing him under arrest for assaulting a peace officer. When she tried to put him in handcuffs, he got free and began to walk away. Other officers arrived and helped take him into custody. So he's charged with assaulting a police officer, public intoxication, and resisting and evading arrest and all of that. So representative for Jones told TMZ Sports, like thousands of other people in Dallas last night, Pac was in town, Pac, Pac, it's like when it's PAC it's like Tupac so I'm like Pac.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Pac was in town for the fight and was enjoying himself spending time with the fans. Pac-Man was returning to his hotel to wind down for the evening. He was in the bar drinking. He was not looking for trouble. The representative says Pac-Man adamantly denies the allegations, looks forward to explaining the truth and when the time comes here, obviously. And also a Conor McGregor update as well. In November of 2024, an Irish civil jury
Starting point is 02:16:37 finds Conor liable for sexual assault. Great. And ordered him to pay 248,000 euros to euros to her jury deliberated and he denied the accusation saying it was consensual and Yeah, I guess they had met at a Christmas party she accused him Forced her to be a choker was all of the witnesses there said it was consensual. How many people are watching this? God damn it. That was fucking wild. That shit was wild.
Starting point is 02:17:11 That was crazy. One of the people, the woman's lawyer, said she never pretended to be a saint and had gone out looking for a good time that ended up turning into a nightmare. This lawyer said that McGregor was angry about the fight he lost in Las Vegas two months earlier and took it out on his client. I'm mad from something two months ago so I'm going to rape you. That's a lot. What the shit. He also this lawyer said he's
Starting point is 02:17:34 not a man. He's a coward, a devious coward and you should treat him for what he is. Yeah. So there you go. Said that she, you know, she got put in a chokehold and Told her quote now. You know how I felt in the octagon where I tapped out three times Is that what he said to me told her that's what she testified god damn She said quote he let me go and I remember saying I was sorry as I felt that I did something wrong and wanted to reassure Him that I wouldn't tell anyone so he wouldn't hurt me again as I felt that I did something wrong and wanted to reassure him that I wouldn't tell anyone so he wouldn't hurt me again. She said she then let him do what he wanted
Starting point is 02:18:07 and he sexually assaulted her and then police investigated the complaint but prosecutors didn't bring charges saying there's insufficient evidence and the conviction would have been hard to get. He said she never said no or stop or stopped and testified that everything she said was a lie. He said it's a full blown lie among many lies.
Starting point is 02:18:31 How could anyone believe that me, a prideful person, would highlight my shortcomings? Now you know what I felt like when I was tapping out. Oh, because I'm so proud. I have such a huge ego. I'm such an asshole How would I ever talk about my shortcomings is what he said. I would never say that about myself His lawyer said you may have an active dislike of him
Starting point is 02:18:55 Yeah, realize that he's a real hateable asshole remember when he punched that old man I we get some of you may even loathe him There is no point pretending that the situation might be otherwise I'm not asking you to invite him to a Sunday brunch I'm asking you to overlook rape. I'm asking you to just Brush rape under the rug, please As you overlook sexual assault because he's a monster. Oh My god Wow now a few hours after that article
Starting point is 02:19:28 This is fucking crazy This is the woman is her name is Nikita hand. She released her name Nikita hand here She was forced to move after her property was invaded by a group of masked men wearing fucking Masks and wielding weapons. What the fuck, man? The men stabbed her partner and broke the front windows of her house, according to reports because she won, which were revealed in the after. No, this was, this happened before this.
Starting point is 02:19:57 This was leading up to the actual case. So they think they were trying to get her to drop it and intimidate her. Details of the attack were conveyed by the high court. Wow. That's crazy. What the fuck? McGregor was found liable for sexual assault. There we go. The jury found that Lawrence did not assault Hand.
Starting point is 02:20:13 That was somebody else. During the civil court proceedings, the jury was told that Hand was making a claim for the cost of relocation to a different area in Dublin, but were not told why the claim was being made. So they thought that would have been a little bit, you know, sure, they might have put a little inflammatory, yeah, it made them look bad here. They also stated that the young daughter when this invasion happened, her young daughter called 999-911 in England to alert the police during the invasion and that the
Starting point is 02:20:41 intruders broke the front windows of the house before the cops got there. Wow. They said that now his team says obviously they were, you know, they didn't said they weren't laying it at our feet but they were trying to blame us for this shit basically which who the fuck else would do it? Right. I mean certainly somebody that knows you that doesn't want that wants her to leave you alone. No shit shit. Oh, by the way, in the courtroom testimony that he gave, he described his sexual encounter with her as consensual, athletic, vigorous, and prolonged. I gave it to her good, it's what he said.
Starting point is 02:21:16 Ew. Fuck. Vigorous, fucking athletic, what? Athletic. Two days later, he's dumped by proper number 12 Irish whiskey after the sexual assault rule. Wasn't that his own whiskey? I thought so. Well, I mean, his own means that they signed him up
Starting point is 02:21:32 to be the face. There's a board of people, yeah. Yep, they said since 2021, oh no, he sold it. Proximo Spirits has been 100% owner of proper number 12 Irish whiskey. Going forward, we do not plan to use Mr. McGregor's name and likeness in the marketing of the brand. He sold them.
Starting point is 02:21:48 As if that's ever gonna stop. We all recognize it as his. $600 million he sold it for, and him and his partner. Whoa. Who knows what he got out of it, but plenty. Put it that way. They said, in light of the recent court ruling against Conor McGregor, IO Interactive has made
Starting point is 02:22:04 the decision to cease collaboration with the Athlete effective immediately because they were developing the hitman video game They said that's all gone now. Yeah, not gonna do that So all January 15th 2025 just happened Just happened. Yeah, he is sued and accused of sexual assault at a Miami Heat game in 2023. Had to have happened, right? Yeah, I mean, that's the one where there's pictures of him going to the bathroom with her.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Oh, that one? You're definitely going to the bathroom with her. Oh, I've seen that, that's no good. That does not look good for him. He said when she attempted to leave the center courtside club area, the woman said she was dragged by the hand to a nearby bathroom by one of his friends or private security members and they said that McGregor led her to a stall where the assault took place.
Starting point is 02:22:56 God damn it. McGregor called it a new false story. Oh, okay. Wow, interesting. So they said that a 49-year-old man, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, is seeking compensation for future past. Okay, not much there.
Starting point is 02:23:10 All right, so there you go. The Miami-Dade County Prosecutor's Office elected not to pursue criminal charges, so civil case is all they have left to go on. And the lawsuit also mentions the incident involving McGregor injuring the man playing the heat mascot, Bernie. Oh yeah, that's right, because he punched, remember that? He punched the mascot. Yeah, a skit where McGregor punching Bernie and ended up with the man playing mascot being
Starting point is 02:23:33 sent to the hospital with an injury. Jesus fucking Christ. This is fucking wild. God, he's such a dick. He's a complete fucking asshole. But he wants to fight one of the Paul idiots because if there's the only person on earth he could fight and get rooted for on is that guy. And he's the baby face in that one. That's the scary part. I don't know, him fighting that might make me root
Starting point is 02:23:59 for the Pauls. Poof, man. I root for whatever water they're all drinking to be poisoned. Yeah, can we do that? Plane leaving the stadium to crash Yeah can we be like a Batman villain and have like a Have like a big like a big fucking plexiglass tube come around the ring and we just like put poison gas in there that You can really see it's like purple like in a 60s Batman fucking show
Starting point is 02:24:26 The only way to do it. So there you go everybody. That is Darrell Porter. Now you might say, when the fuck did he get arrested? Didn't get arrested. That's part of it. That's a weird thing. But there's a lot of crime in there and it's crime in sports.
Starting point is 02:24:37 And honestly, it's an interesting story that I've been sitting on for years going, oh, but he didn't have arrests and people are gonna complain. Welcome, where are all the arrests? I don't know. That's a good story. If you where are all the arrests? Fuck, I don't know. That's a good story. If you don't like it, fuck off.
Starting point is 02:24:47 I don't have to tell you. This is certainly have arrested him. He was in possession of cocaine. I mean, he has plenty. Yeah, there's plenty of things he could have been arrested for, but, you know, sorry there's not a long list of arrests. Just a real interesting story. What a story.
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Starting point is 02:25:56 This week, which you're gonna get, we are gonna dive deep into Kobe Bryant's little issue we had there back in Colorado with his rape accusation. We have the depositions. We have his initial, the transcript of his initial police interrogation. He was like, I don't know what you're talking about. It was hilarious.
Starting point is 02:26:16 Oh yeah. Couldn't believe they would wanna talk about it. They said, bluntly, did you have sex? He said, no. Bluntly. Bluntly. The guy said, I'm gonna ask you bluntly. And he said no
Starting point is 02:26:25 So that's fun. We're gonna pull talk all about that and more Later on and then also for small town murders episode here We are gonna talk about internet salad which is we're gonna go on Look at whatever is in the news that day and talk about it not politics though You've had an ass full of politics for the last year and a half. It's fucking enough right now. So we're going to talk about everything but politics and just kind of let's pretend that politics didn't exist and talk about all the other shit in the world just for an hour. You know what I mean? We'll get back to it. You can or whoever
Starting point is 02:27:00 everybody in the world is going to get back to it. But not our fault or our problem, or it is our problem, everything, but not our fault or whatever happens, whether you like it or not, we didn't do it. Put it that way. Don't want me in with it. We have no power, so we're not gonna talk about it. We'll talk about everything else. That is definitely patreon.com slash crime and sports,
Starting point is 02:27:19 and you get a shout out at the end of the show. Jimmy, I would like you to hit me with the names of the people who would never ever ever, hopefully, die of cocaine while moving their truck off a stump. Jimmy, hit me with the list right fucking now. This week's Detective Proofsters are Jordan Bennett. Happy birthday, Jordan.
Starting point is 02:27:38 Happy birthday, Jordan Bennett. They are moving back to England, that's bananas. I heard that, yeah. They're my favorite Canadians, yeah. Good luck with that. Robin Hannaberry, happy birthday as well. They are moving back to England. That's bananas. I heard that Robin hannaberry happy birthday as well Zach bowls and philly and Ashton wilcox. Thank you all so much for what you're doing. Thank you What other produce now sweet are Peyton Meadows the land of voodoo hoodoo and all kind of weird shit What is that from cool? That is fuck? No, I can't even forget what that's all kind of weird shit Yeah, I can voodoo voodoo and all kind of weird shit. What is that from? Cool, that is, fuck no, I can't even remember. I forget what that's from. All kind of weird shit, yeah I can.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Voodoo, voodoo, and all kind of weird shit. Maybe a baseball player made a baseball movie. Yeah, sounds like a hillbilly. Is it the guy that hates a picture of Serrano? I don't know. That's what I was thinking at first, but. Yeah, maybe, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Buttered Toast Legion president Jonathan Phipps said hello, James. Well, hello there. He said the Buttered Toast people President Jonathan Phipps said hello James. Well hello there. The Buttered Toast people are gonna get mad Happy hour checking in in Memphis like an autistic child IG page. I don't know what that is Don't like them too much signing on it Janice Hill Amanda Potter, uh, oh, what is this? Tavi Octavio Escamillo, Hota-vio or Octavio? I don't know which that is.
Starting point is 02:28:50 A bad speller. Not so old Martha, what is it, Pierrick? Is that real? Pierrick, is that a name? P-er-ick, wow. Someone couldn't decide whether they wanted to be French or an American kid born in the 80s, They couldn't decide which one they wanted to be. Nester Baragin, Kern with no last name,
Starting point is 02:29:08 Collie Gianniotos. Yeah, that. Gianniotos. Something Greek, let's just say that. Gareth Schneider, Crystal H, Steven Mancuso, Anon O. Mus, you know what I mean, Alice Francis, Seth Tarseli, Allie Watts, JC, the letter's J-N-C, Megan Skeel, maybe it's Megan.
Starting point is 02:29:31 Lisa Press, J-N-D, the letter's J-N-D. Sam Lowe, Ronnakeve, that is a first name, or a last name, Ronnakeve. All right, Patrick Dobbins, Jason B, Hayley Cruiser, Alexandra Alexandra, Marie Turc- Turle, Turlej, Turlej, that's Russian. All right, Charlotte Gervais, Caleb with no last name, Josie Zavala, Jennifer Stark, Stephen C, Kristen Taylor, Paul John, Hannah Barron, Kicha Halloran, Meredith Hahn, Big Al Fiddycal,
Starting point is 02:30:09 Chris Hayward, Amber with no last name, Jan Valdezales, Valdezales, a Silliche, Farm Junkie, Nice Lady, Ben Hardin, Amy A, Ruby with no last name, Ken with know last name Berber sir Seema Terry Martin Miller Jason Welcher Todd would know last name Jason Willis Wilson. God damn it Michelle Thomas Chris Moser Chastity Chastity no, that's only one T Chastity or Chastity?
Starting point is 02:30:41 No Chastity Smith or maybe maybe it is Chastity with an H in there for no fucking reason at all so we don't know Jen King Nicole Cochran Hannah Johnson Melissa a Tyler would know last name Jennifer Pienkowski Jason constant Kim Bayer Ian Arseneau Cassie would know last name Mick Jagger probably not probably not, Stephanie Witten, if it is, he should have sent me more than five fucking dollars, you cheap bastard Mick. He needs more episodes. He's got kids, Jimmy.
Starting point is 02:31:16 He's got small children. No, he's got small children now, he's like 90 years old. Yeah, brand new one, he just had a new kid recently. Stephanie Witten, Rachel Santana, Jan Summer, Jen, oh it's Jan, Jan Summer, Stevie Mack, Ryan Sparks, Steven, no Steve Peterson, Matthew Anderson, Jill Womack, Tilma, Tima, Tima Wilson, Ronald Morton, Jade O'Hare, Karen Sprouse, Wendell Helm Jr., Pete Petticoni, Petticon, Carlo Ferraroni, Ferraroni, Delane, Delane, Delane, Delane Ellison, Shady307, a 320 driver, Annie, Annie, Annie Bailey,
Starting point is 02:32:00 the Wolves, that's the Wolves you guys, you can't do an F, that's the wolves you guys, you can't do enough, that's against English tradition. Moxie Goodwitch, Jenny McCout Michalski, Elizabeth Seife, Robert Lorenzoni, Megan Good, Heather, holy fucking Schoonentaller. Heather, holy fucking shit. Schunetaller. Wow. Whiskey smoker, Michelle Bozen. James likes big nuts. I'll bet she doesn't. How about that? Somebody probably just heard, remember,
Starting point is 02:32:32 there was probably a sentence that you said, you said you like big nuts. Had to be. Why else would somebody want me to say that to you? Jenny Bates, Claire Calder, Kurt Burkhart. Burkhart, truck butters, Adam Stockton, Faith Powers, Stephanie Riley, Brittany Hall, Alicia Douglas, David Adams, Egan would know last name, Melissa Burroughs, Heath Peters, Maris Ann Carmichael, Mikey Mindy, Mindy Bird, Jess Barrop, Jamie McGinnis, this is getting tough. Matthew Ford, Carolyn Green, C. Match,
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Starting point is 02:33:40 Thank you. Thank you everybody so much. You fantastic, wonderful beasts. We appreciate the the shit of all that you do for us. So thank you for doing that. Keep hanging out with us. Shutupandgivemurder.com if you want to follow us on social media. Links are there. Come hang out with us and try not to do so much cocaine if you're that fat and it's hot outside. Please keep it to a minimum everybody. That said, live from the Crime and Sports studios, we will see you next week.
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