Crime in Sports - #48 - The Grinch Who Stole Lives - The Evilness of Joe Son

Episode Date: December 27, 2016

This week, we explore a tale of mild success, hilarious failure, and pure evil. A man who was one of the worst fighters in the history of UFC, but didn't let that stop him from having a memorable role in a blockbuster hit movie, and being one of the worst human beings we've ever come across. His crimes are absolutely hideous, and the first one took place on Christmas Eve, making anything the Grinch ever did look like rip roaring Christmas cheer. He almost gets away with it, but a stupid mistake is his ultimate downfall. He's a sadistic, murdering, torturing monster. Join us in the holiday spirit! Attack a movie star, lose all your fights, then deny science with Joe Son!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: [e-mail] on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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strange, dark, and mysterious stories on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, and welcome back to Crime and Sports. Yay! Oh, yay. Yay is, again, Jimmy, the understatement of the year. This is more of a fantastic. This is more like your yay should be physical. You should be jumping up and down.

You got that you wouldn't be close to the mic. I want to see a karate chop from you. That's how much enthusiasm you should have for this. Oh, my God. Wow. My name is James Petragallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. What a story do we have for this oh my god wow my name is james petra gallo i'm here with my co-host i'm jimmy wissman what a story do we have for you tonight it is unbelievable it's got a christmas theme to it yes merry christmas happy hanukkah happy whatever the fuck the rest of you celebrate i don't know

whatever muslims do to give each other presents i have no goddamn idea if that takes place now whatever you do that to you give each other never mind it doesn't matter be mean yeah let's not be that let's let's not we're only a couple minutes in let's wait let's wait to be mean because we have plenty to be mean about this story tonight is possibly the scummiest thing anyone has ever done i'm not even joking around it's hard when you hear about what he did oh, that guy can't walk around anymore. We can't have him in society. He's one of those people.

And the things he does around it are ridiculous. So he's either doing a horrible crime or making a complete fool of himself in as public a way as humanly possible. It's amazing. I mean, you will feel the spirit of the holidays today. I'm going to tell you, Jimmy, you're going to feel it. You're going to feel it in your bones. We're going to deck the halls. We're going to deck something today, Jimmy.

I'm going to tell you because this is a wild tale, wild tale. Before we get into that, I just want to thank everybody for their iTunes reviews this week. We got a bunch. Yeah. And it helps so much. It helps us get new sponsors. So cute. It helps us move up the rankings.

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do your fucking part. And on the backs of all the iTunes reviews. Hope you enjoyed last week's Insanity Clifford ATN. Real quick though, Let me say this. James puts in a ridiculous amount of effort, and a 30-second iTunes review pales in comparison to the sweat and turmoil that it causes him in his personal life. It does, man. It does.

It's a lot of time, and it's— So just do it. Do James a favor. Yeah. Do me a favor. Do us all a favor. And you guys. You guys, I'm sure, would like us out there.

You want this to get better. Yeah, you'd want us to get bigger and better and be able to do better research and look things up that are crazy. Like I said, hope you enjoyed Clifford ATN last week. My God, was he crazy or what? What the fuck? I had a lot of fun with that one for some reason. It was a lot.

I enjoy fighters. Yeah. And I enjoy boxing. I'm a boxing fan. Yeah. So I enjoy that whole aspect of it. I got messages about how ridiculous we are because I tend to agree with you that boxing is a fucking way more of a sport than MMA is. And you believe that any MMA fighter would be crushed into oblivion if they fought a boxer.

And I agree with you. And I got so many texts from so many people especially Jack Preston in Ohio telling me that we're fucking lunatics okay put it this way I'm gonna very briefly very briefly because we have a lot of people out we have a lot of crime today very very briefly okay let's set this scenario up now my scenario was Mike Tyson, 1987. Okay. Mike Tyson, 1987, with tiny UFC gloves on, is standing there, and a man, first of all, no one in the UFC is a boxer of that level, or else they wouldn't be in the UFC. They'd be boxing, okay? There's a big, it's kind of like, have you ever seen a major league pitcher throw a ball,

and you go, you watch him in the bullpen, and you go, whoa, you hear that pop in the glove, and you go, holy shit. And like, the guy who like you would know and you would play softball with that throws really hard is nowhere near that. That's what we're talking about in boxing ability. Now, UFC guys can wrestle, obviously, and they can lock people up, and they can kick, and they do all that. But to get within range of touching Mike Tyson,

you'd have to get within range of his hands, which would make you dead. Right. So it's over. And then if you do latch on to him, guess what? to get within range of his hands, which would make you dead. Right. So it's over. And then if you do latch on to him, guess what? You're in range of his hands. Right. And he's going to punch you until you have a hole in your skull. I don't care if you're choking him or not.

If you latch on to him on one side, guess what? He's got another side that he hits equally hard with. Oh, and his neck is bigger than his head also. So good luck choking him out. Good luck with that. Hilarious. He has no neck. It's just a head attached to shoulders by one giant muscle.

There's nothing to choke out there. But never mind UFC boxing. Let's move forward. What we do have this week is another fighter. Not a boxer. We have an MMA fighter this week. Oh, great. One of the shittiest MMA fighters in the history of MMA.

And he is a trip and, God, what a complete, utter piece of human garbage and disaster. Unrepentant piece of shit. It's Joe Sun, everybody. Let's welcome Joe Sun to the crew. You utter piece of garbage. Man, wait till I tell you what he did. Fuck, man. This is one guy I was researching just shaking my head going,

God damn it, I want to kick this guy's ass. And then I was funny because I was watching his UFC fights and as he's getting beat, I'm like, good, kick his fucking ass. You're like, I want to kick his ass. Then you watch him losing and you're like, I think I can kick his ass. I might be able to take him, actually. This isn't bad. We're talking about Joseph and his middle name, Young Min Sun.

That makes an Asian man. He is an Asian fellow. Super Asian. Yes, he is. He's born in South Korea, as a matter of fact, so that's pretty Asian. I don't know if he can get more Asian than being born in South Korea. Came to America

at a young age. Not a lot is known about his early life. Now, I hate this, and I tried so hard to find it. It's because Koreans are secretive as fuck. I guess so. Not just the North. No, and I mean his childhood, his family. There's not a lot out there, because what he did was one of those things that was so horrific that no one cared about anything else. Not even like your family life, mother, sons, mother, brothers, sisters, something.

There's nothing there really to find. His father either? Nothing. What? Nothing really to find. I had to piece together pieces of his high school from later on because that's not even out there. He moved to California. He lives in California.

When he fights, he says he's out of Huntington Beach, California, and I think that's where he lived. He went to high school around there also and met another complete scumbag that he'll do some things with later on. All right. In high school, I guess just from what I understand, he was kind of a gang type kid, kind of a gang member type kid. He claims some connection with the sons of Samoa later on, the gang in L.A. Yeah, weird because he's not Samoan, number one. That would be first of all.

I don't know if he was just telling people that because he's like, I'm vaguely Asian. They'll just say I'm Samoan and they don't fucking know. They'll buy it. Korea doesn't get as much respect as Samoans do on the street no and he's real stocky too this guy is five foot four really four Joe Sun is he is a tiny man what he's 235 pounds so that is a stocky cat a rotund son of a bitch yeah and back in the day too he wasn't even that fat he was just a real stocky thick he had a giant head on him. His head looks like it weighs 40 pounds.

Like, that's an extra 40. You take his head off, he's 195, you know what I mean? Like, he's really, really... Joe's son, and he's the size of the sun. He is, looks like the sun. His head now, it's getting bigger in his old age as we look at him, and it's the, it is the sun. He could block out the sun with his

head. I'm telling you. A solar eclipse. Absolutely. So he's hanging around Huntington Beach, and he's hanging around in L.A. in general and out there. And we have a little incident that happens. Uh-oh. Well, we won't get into it because we don't know who does this incident for a long time. But there's an incident that happens on Christmas Eve.

It's a Christmas connection. And this was not on purpose, but it was a complete accident. And I'm researching it. I'm going, holy shit, this happened on Christmas Eve. Hey, Christmas themed episode. All right. Look at us. Happened on Christmas Eve and it is not a virgin lady pregnant, nine months, walking

into a manger. No, no, no, no. Mary had a much better night on Christmas Eve than this particular young lady. Much different event. This poor young lady. There's a 19-year-old girl involved here, a 19-year-old woman. She's a Huntington Beach resident. She lives in an apartment.

She's out hanging out. She goes out that night. She goes out that night with her friends, and they go out and look at Christmas lights. Oh. You know what I mean? It's a lovely night. She's a lovely night. She calls herself a self-described rocker chick. She likes to go out and go to Christmas lights. Oh. You know what I mean? It's a lovely night. She's a lovely night. She calls herself a self-described rocker chick.

She likes to go out and go to shows and stuff like that. Do a little coke. She looked like a nice girl from the pictures. I saw her. She just looked like a nice 19-year-old girl. She had a little tiny dog that she took places with her. And this was in 1990 before it was really douchey to bring a tiny dog. This is pre-Paris Hilton.

Fuck Paris Hilton. This is pre-that. This is just a girl with a tiny dog. Right. And she takes it around and she cares about it. This girl might have started it. Yeah. But anyway, she is this night on December 20th.

It's the early morning of Christmas Eve. So it's the night of December 23rd. But when this happens, it's Christmas Eve. She is kidnapped from her apartment complex. Oh, my God. Yeah. She's kidnapped from her apartment complex, pulled into a car. be shown christmas lights no no no she would really want to see christmas lights because she was kidnapped thrown in a car driven around raped tortured and dumped

oh this poor woman is horrible one of the worst stories i've ever heard and we'll get into details of it later but that is a terrible evening one of the worst stories period i ever heard and we'll get into details of it later. That is a terrible evening. One of the worst stories, period. I've heard from somebody just complete the worst shit that could happen. She says there's two suspects in this. One is a Hispanic male, 19 to 25. The other is an Asian male. Oh, weird.

19 to 25. Also not too tall in stature, stocky. That's a description of our Asian fellow here. So we see where this is going eventually. But she's left for dead, like I said. She's found – she basically runs up to a woman – runs up to a house in a random neighborhood. She is naked with a jacket on. Oh, goodness.

Begging them to call 911. Please do. They call 911. Yeah, she goes to the to her parents to you know the hospital her parents come her little sister's 12 she's there it's like oh my god it's ridiculous and i did some research and we can talk about this i'm not going to mention this woman's real name she's not real into wanting her real name out there and she's a victim of something and you know what we don't need to do that shit that's not reckless no we're not skip

fucking bayless and we're not going to go fucking spouting bullshit. Here we go again. Yeah, fuck Skip Bayless again. Jesus Christ. Have some pride in yourself. Have some goddamn pride. Now he's making fake Twitter accounts this week. Did we all catch this? That's so crazy. Break away from rape and torture for one second. This asshole's making

fake Twitter accounts to say to pump himself up. Are you kidding me? That's the epitome of just an egomaniac. He needs people to say nice things about him so much that he'll even fake it and do it himself. Here's what you can do if you want people to say nice things about you. You have a platform on television. You can do your goddamn job, do some journalism, go on television, present it well, and then

guess what people will do? They'll think you're good at your job rather than call you a douchebag constantly. Get a partner that genuinely enjoys your company, and then maybe they'll say nice things. James, you're a wonderful man. I'm enjoying this. You're not a bad guy, Jimmy. I like hanging out with you. This is a lot of fun.

It is. It is. No, and the thing that bothers me the most about the Skip Bayless thing, he pisses me off, Jimmy, like nobody else. And I saw articles defending him this week, because that'sless thing. He, he pisses me off, Jimmy, like nobody else. And I, I saw articles defending him this week. Cause that's the thing. I've obviously,

if everyone's like, he's a douchebag, someone's got to write the anti article. So that way they can be different. And I'm like, Hey, I think I'm a different kind of thinker. I'm against the grain.

Well, what about if we see it from a different angle? No, from every angle, skip Bayless is a piece of shit. Yeah. A volcano could erupt and kill an entire village and there'd be stories about how tragic. There'd be one guy saying like, well, you know, it's not that bad actually because, you know, these people wanted to die.

Ridiculous. When volcanoes overflow like this, then the ash creates a very fertile ground. We're going to have lots of lush trees eventually. It's not bad. That's the type of bullshit. Yeah. They were putting an article out saying that, well, you know, you look at him more like a wrestler, they were saying. Literally, look at him more like a bad guy wrestler.

Like you root for him to lose? He's trying to get the crowd pissed off. That's his job. He's the guy where everyone goes, oh, it's good. No, no, no. That's giving him way too much credit. That's acting like he has a plan and a thought that he's putting forth. No, no, no, no, no.

And a talent further and beyond fucking just talking and spewing horse shit. No, he just spews horse shit. That's what this guy does. He spews his bullshit, and he goes out there, and then he makes up fake Twitter accounts to say what a great journalist he is. So we don't need Skip Bayless, and we're not going to do a Skip Bayless tonight and say this poor woman's name. She's taken to the hospital. Let's get back into the rape, Jimmy. This is a horrible thing here.

That was the greatest. Fucking Skip Bayless. Every time with this guy. He keeps coming up. I can't help it. He won't live our life. Guys, I don't want to keep talking about Skip Bayless. I really don't because we're giving him too much credit.

And this is what the articles are saying. This is what he wants. He wants people to hate him. No, he doesn't. If he did, he wouldn't be putting out things saying he's good. He doesn't want to be hated because he was a, quote, legitimate journalist at one point. So now he's turned into a professional wrestler. Is that his excuse?

I've given up on journalism now. I mean, fuck, man. I mean, I feel like it just bothers me that I feel like we do better journalism than some of these people. For sure. And we are jerk offs. That bothers me. Listen, you broke something that I feel like somebody should listen to two podcasts ago when you connected those two fucking things in no time flat.

Larry Bethea. I don't know. And Skip Bayless was in Dallas, so it's his fault, and I blame Skip Bayless for missing Larry Bethea. So anyway, this poor nameless woman, she is taken to the hospital. They do the rape kit on her, the whole deal, to collect any kind of evidence they can. And remember, this is 1990, so it deal, to collect any kind of evidence they can. And remember, this is 1990. So it's not the same exact kind of technology and gathering techniques that they have today.

DNA is around. DNA is around, and it's a new thing. So they're collecting everything, and they're saving it, basically. I don't know. Maybe you can get DNA off that. We'll give it a shot later. We'll figure it out. Yeah.

Back then, too, they discussed that they did not have a great database of DNA back in 1990 because it was new. So they weren't collecting DNA from people. They had DNA from very few people. Right. Anyway, she goes to the hospital in addition to rape, obviously, the horrible thing that is. She also had a hurt shoulder, scratched eyes, dislocated jaw, several loosened teeth, and hearing loss from head trauma from being hit in the head. Oh, my God. I mean, this poor woman had as bad of a Christmas Eve as you can fucking imagine.

That's the worst one ever. Yeah, it makes the kids from Home Alones look like a walk in the park. Kevin McAllister should have just sit back and watch a movie and let Daniel Stern and Joe Pesci do whatever they wanted because it wouldn't have been as bad as this. Daniel Stern was an idiot in the movie, and Pesci could just fucking mumble things. He could have hid in the closet and letci do whatever they wanted because it wouldn't have been as bad as this. Daniel Stern was an idiot in the movie. Pesci could just fucking mumble things. He could have hid in the closet and let them do whatever they wanted.

This poor woman had no choice. She was just going about her business, this poor thing. Anyway, she goes back to her grandmother's house to clean up and be with her family and be kept safe and all that. She has hair falling off of her head that was pulled out and just stuck there from dried blood. Oh, my God. That's how brutal this was. This is brutal.

This is. And any assault like this is going to be brutal. We're not. But this is particularly evil. Yeah. This one. Because it was sadistic. And we get into it later.

It's wild. Because they were fucking hoping that she would just die. No. Well, I'll tell you what happened later. But there's a detective, Don Howell. He worked the case originally. Obviously, the police were anxious to catch these two. I would hope so.

These two people, judging by the violence, would think, hmm, we don't want them out there. We're probably going to do this again. Yeah, exactly. I don't want a repeat of this bullshit. Yeah, I mean, she goes in. She makes sketches with the police artists. And they make sketches of these two. They release the sketches, trying to find something.

Gotcha. They find nothing. They had physical evidence collected at the hospital. They had the jacket of one of the assailants also. Oh, shit. They had that, which is a piece of evidence. Not too much physical evidence off of that, but it was a circumstantial kind of a chunk of something. The victim tells police that she heard them talking about the Sons of Samoa gang.

And also that they carved SOS on one of her butt cheeks. Get out of town. They fucking branded her forever. This is what I'm saying. This is how horrible this is. The whole thing. Now, police were confident with all of this evidence. Real quickly.

Yeah. It's a fucking, I hate to make fun of this. But you're going to. I know you're going to. Here's my point. It's just that they were talking about a gang while they're raping a girl. Yeah. That gets you off, bro, talking about your homies?

Is that what it is? I think possibly that was. Well, Joker's going to be so impressed, eh? What the fuck is that? I think it was probably a divert. I think it was probably trying to trick her, possibly. Or intimidate her and let her know that they're a part of that or some shit. Possibly. Gotcha. a divert I think it was probably trying to trick her possibly or but we don't know or possibly possibly we can't we'll see we'll lay it all out later and see

how it goes but it's there's a lot of different options that's just what I saw whenever you said they were talking I'm like they were talking like high five why would you do that like yeah why would you be like yeah sons of Samoa bro and like high five and shit that'd be weird little Snoopy's gonna be blown away when he hears about this. But these guys were such scumbags, they might have done that.

Right. I wouldn't put that past them. That's how big a piece of shit these people are. This woman, she is completely traumatized, obviously. Of course. Her life is destroyed after this. She can't do anything without being scared. Yeah.

And obviously, I don't blame her. She's traumatized. I wouldn't want to go to the grocery store. No, she's traumatized. The police... Christmas lights are fucking ruined. Oh, you know she never wants to see a Christmas light again. She never wants to see a manger scene as long as she lives.

Take those icicles down now. Fuck, baby Jesus. Take them down. Yeah. Goes around just setting a flame to Christmas trees. Get out of here. She avoids the mall for like a good month and a half, two month period. Oh, Jesus.

From Halloween on. So the police work the Sons of Sam the mall for like a month and a half, two month period. Jesus, from Halloween on. So the police work the Sons of Samoa lead for over a year. They try to, they go in, they get the gang unit involved, they go in, they try to interview these people, they try to offer deals of, hey, if you know who these guys are, you know you'll be in trouble soon since you're in a gang, you stupid fuck.

So why don't you tell us and maybe we can do something for you later. Obviously they're going to be arrested at some point and need to be out of it. So they're offering, you know, So why don't you tell us and maybe we can do something for you later. Obviously, they're going to be arrested at some point and need to be out of it. So they're offering, you know, they're trying to get these people. They get they have no luck, no luck because they also don't they don't have fingerprints. They don't have a license plate of this vehicle. All they have is the description of the men and physical DNA evidence. Right. That's it. And there isn't. It's 1990.

People nowadays, if you're watching, it's, you know, if a guy touched a doorknob, they're like, well, we'll swipe it. We'll get touch DNA. We'll get surface DNA. We'll do this. And the rest of them are on warning. That's it. Done. Everybody's on fire.

It's not like that in 1990. In 1990, when people, think about this, during the OJ trial, the jury was skeptical about DNA evidence. And that was like 1995. Right. And they were still like, well, I don't know. I mean, literally, like, they say one in three billion, but, you know, come on. What are the real chances? Yeah, they were like, I don't know.

That sounds a little shady. It was like they were like global warming people, deniers, just like, I don't know. I know the oceans are rising and stuff, but I don't think so. I think it's okay. I think we're all right. That's good. It's sunny today. It's not happening.

Yeah, I'm going to go buy a Range Rover. I think it's alright. I'm going to get a Hummer H1 I think. I think everything's going to be fine. So the police continue to investigate this. I hope so. They are. They're going through it and this is a priority. And for a while it was a priority for a couple of years

and while this is going on, we have Joe back to idiot Joe Sun here. Joe becomes an actor. Really? And he appears in several shit pile productions. Just several of them. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing.

The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Bing! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that.

New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor.

You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award winning series returns. How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head.

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I've heard of that. It ran for two seasons. It stars Mark Harmon and Marlee Matlin. Yes, yes, yes. And listen to this description marley matlin's why that's why i heard of it this description here is i love description i i have a book that has if you're overseas marley matlin is a deaf woman she's a deaf actor she's a great actress too she's deaf but she's deaf as fuck yeah and you can tell she's deaf she can't

hear shit she's not passing she's not passing at all no she's deaf and mark can't hear shit. She can't say shit. She's not passing at all. She's deaf. And Mark Harmon is Mark. He's the NCIS guy. There you go. That's who he is. Mark fucking Harmon. Summer school and all that shit.

Okay. Mark Harmon. So I love, I have a book that has basically every, it's the primetime TV book and it has every show that was on the air ever from the forties to now. Where the fuck did you find this book? In a used bookstore. Amazing. It's so thick. It's like five inches thick.

It's amazing. It's a coffee-takeable book. It's the best book. And so I like to just randomly go to like, hey, 1965, let's see what was on on a Thursday night and look at these terrible shows they were putting out. Because most of TV is shit. I mean, for every 20 shows they make, 19 of them are embarrassing, and then one of them is a hit. That's how it works, and it pays for the other 19 to be embarrassing.

So this is one of these shows. It ran for two seasons, one and a partial two. Listen to the description. This is so bad. You can tell this is when shit was starting to change and you couldn't have a cheesy show. All right, quote, a drama about the working relationship between DA Tess Kaufman,

a prosecutor sensitive to the rights of the accused, and hard-charging gruff detective Dickie Cobb, an old-fashioned cop with the bust-the-perps attitude. Jesus Christ. That is the IMDB fucking... They sent that out to the press to put in the paper and said make that. Not just them. That's us.

At all the casting, they told each person trying out for the lead role that that's what they were, and they had to go in there and talk like fucking Humphrey Bogart. A hard-charging, gruff detective. Marcy. Dickie Cobb. Yeah, I'm Dickie Cobb. That's Mark Harmon. When you look at Mark Harmon, you see hard-charging, gruff detective back then? No, he was the summer school guy still back then.

But yeah, that's the shittiest TV show I've ever heard of. Yeah, there's banging a 17-year-old, or had a 17-year-old coming on to him. Unreal. And so funny, the picture, like the poster or whatever it is, is them like hugging Marlee Madden and Mark Harmon. I'm like, come on, what are we looking at here? It's them, like, hugging Marlee Matten and Mark Harmon. I'm like, come on.

What are we looking at here? Son played on the – he was in the Thank God It's Friday episode was the name of the episode in the second season. He played Mr. Lee. Yes. So an Asian. It's a big stretch for him. As we'll see throughout much of his acting, he has a lot of range. As we'll see, he plays everything from Asians to Asians that fight.

It's Asians that don't fight to Asians that fight. He's a very Asian. He pokes it up. 1993, same year, he appears in another movie, Army of One. Army of One. Starring Dolph Lundgren. Oh, boy. Army of One.

Starring Dolph Lundgren. 5.7 out of 10 stars on IMDb. It's a damn good movie. Wait till you hear the description. It sounds top-notch. It's so convoluted. It sounds like somebody had a fever dream and woke up and was like, that's a movie, I'm just writing it.

Fuck it. And they sent it off and Dolph Lundgren said, yeah, why not? I'd do that. Why not? I got nothing since the end of Rocky. Fuck it. I haven't done it.

I got He-Man and then that's it. That's all I got. Oh, here's the description. Quote, a framed prison escapee unknowingly kidnaps a female cop en route to rendezvous with the corrupt cop who put him behind bars. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'm Dolph Lundgren.

He played, Joe Sun in this, played Chinese gunman number one. Perfect. Perfect. Once again, the range. He's like, I'm Korean, played Chinese gunman number one. Perfect. Perfect. Once again, the range. He's like, I'm Korean, but I think I can make it work. I've got so much range, I can go from Korea to China. You never know the difference. I can make it work.

Now, if we're going to get into Laos or Cambodia, I'm sorry. I've got to tap out on that. I don't think I can pull it off. But mainland China, I think I can work it. I'm in. Yeah. Not Hong Kong, though. No, no, no.

So he continues. This is another movie in 93. I'm in. Yeah. Not Hong Kong, though. No, no, no. So he continues. This is another movie in 93. He had a good acting run in 93. 93 was his Jordan year. It's shit money, but it's shit things he's doing, but he's in there. He appears in another movie called Shoot Fighter, Fight to the Death. Shoot Fighter. Shoot Fighter, Fight to the Death.

What does that even mean? It's 5.4 stars. This sounds like it's not American. All the people in it were, I couldn't pronounce any of their names. So I don't know. It's like the credits of Mario Brothers. It's kind of like that. All different.

I don't even know. They weren't even all like Japanese or they weren't all Asian. There was just everything. And I didn't know there was Zs and slashes through letters that shouldn't have slashes through them. I don't know what the hell these people are doing next to h's wrong just super wrong here here's a description of this one uh quote nick and ruben are hoodwinked into a shoot fighter no holds barred to the death martial arts match by the evil mr lee who has a grudge against world champion shoot fighter and teacher of nick and ruben shingo okay that's the description he

was lee obviously no he played chang i mean evil mr lee probably had lines and shit chang was just like a stocky asian guy standing there grimacing i assume so yeah that's insane so this is his another big movie shoot fighter hollywood is so yeah hollywood's so clever with their fucking names too you look like a chang to me this is not hollywood no this is definitely not hollywood i don't know where they made this but i assume nebraska yeah i assume it's like a japanese production done in croatia that's what i picture in my head or hollywood florida something yeah maybe that it was made in the lobby of planet hollywood in vegas now 1994 yeah another movie all right 5.5 stars on imdb another piece of shit yeah uh called blood fist 5 human target blood fist that sounds like the worst porno ever that's fucking terrible

i do not want to see blood fist 5 it's either a porno or another That's fucking terrible. I do not want to see Blood Fist 5. It's either a porno or another Van Damme movie. A Van Damme movie. Steven Seagal, some horse shit like that. It's a snuff film, probably. No, but this movie stars Don the Dragon Wilson. Really? It does.

How about that? The description has it right in there. Fuck yeah, it does. Don the Dragon. They are selling this one. They're like, we have somebody. Shit. I'm surprised they didn't put Dolph Lundgren in the description earlier.

Don the Dragon Wilson struggles to regain his memory, not knowing who to trust or even which side he's fighting on. Oh, my God. He's just wandering around beating the shit out of people, apparently. That's this movie, I'm sure. He's just got a blood fist for everybody. He's wandering around, not knowing where he is. A guy pops up, and he's like, blood fist, and he knocks him out. He's just got a blood fist for everybody. He's wandering around, not knowing where he is. A guy pops up and he's like, blood fist! And he knocks him out. That's all it is.

Joe played Beefy is his name in that. Oh, he finally got a non-Asian sounding name. That's good for him, right? But for all just defending them, it was probably Beef and Broccoli at first. Yeah, and he was like, come on, guys. Come on, guys. Can we not really? Don the Dragon Wilson

was like, look, we pretend I'm Asian, okay? Let's not offend them more. Let's give him a name that's not completely Asian. Now, this crazy son of a bitch, in addition to acting, this is when he starts getting into fighting. All right. Like actual fighting, MMA fighting. Legit fighting. Legit fighting, yeah.

Matches and all that shit. Yeah, and he's a fucking lunatic. Really? He's really into the showmanship aspect of it. Like, if he was taller, he'd be a wrestler, I think, I feel like, because that's what he—his ring entrances are batshit. Really? They're nuts. Like, he's doing backflips?

They're nuts. Well, first, he was managing another guy. Oh, God. Like, he was coming to the ring like another guy. Second, it was weird. He was managing a guy, and while he's managing this guy, all he does is give out Bible quotes. What the fuck? Everything is Jesus this, Jesus that.

He found religion before prison? He found religion before prison, and it's complete horseshit because we'll get into more. I was watching this. I found a UFC promo video for him back in the day. I don't know why they were doing a promo video for him. We'll get into what a terrible fighter he was. But in this promo video, they show him doing a promo for a fight. And here is what he says in their own words.

This is his version of come see me fight tonight. In their own words, quote, the Lord said not by my might or my strength, but with my spirit, said the Lord. You guys will see the spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ tonight you're gonna see the Lord the spirit of Lord Jesus Christ tonight when I kick that guy's face in what the fuck is he talking about it sounds like a very religious mother somewhere that's about to spank their child no he's a stocky mean-looking Asian man look it's very weird who starred in a movie with Dolph Lundgren? He might have Dolph Lundgren's phone number.

That's got to be odd. That's a guy you want to prank at like two in the morning. You want to just send him random texts. Pictures of your dick. Yeah, yeah. Just to see how he reacts to it. Pictures of buttholes. Constant buttholes. Just to see how he reacts to it. I'd like to know how Dolph Lundgren reacts. Stand outside and just see if a phone comes flying through a window.

Another butthole! Baby, who's texting you at this hour? I don't know, but it's another butthole. Why? Why all the buttholes? I think this one's Asian. I'm not sure. How can you tell?

I don't know. I can tell. I'm good. It looks yellow. I'm Dolph Lundgren. That's why. That's how I can tell. He has an accent, but I'm going to talk like that whenever,

anytime Dolph Lundgren comes up. That's damn good. like that whenever, anytime Dolph Lundgren comes up. That's damn good. Excuse me. I'm Dolph Lundgren. So he finally makes his UFC debut. UFC. He's fighting in the UFC for his first MMA fight. Wow.

Yeah, not bad. December 16th, 1994 at UFC number four. All right. So what are they up to now, Jimmy? Like 190 or something. It's ridiculous. This is four. So right. So what are they up to now, Jimmy? Like one one. 90 or something. Ridiculous. This is four. So this is the beginning of this shit.

This was when UFC was not popular. Yeah. It wasn't on TV. Yeah. This was when UFC was considered like a glorified tough man. All right. Before it was now it's a sport. Yeah.

I mean, and it's impressive. Yeah. You know, it is what it is. It's a great sport. Now it generates a fuckload of money. A fuckload of money. Now it's not such a. Now this is this is the earlier days. They got gyms in every town in this country named after it.

This is back when they had cards that didn't have the same rules. Yeah, that's right. This was kind of like an anything goes type of, you know. You can take a street fighter and match him against somebody in Taekwondo and see who wins. See what happens. Yeah, it was like taking two animals. the logo the logo was so bad too it was like this like nondescript race of gentlemen that was it was like a it was a white painted figure that was like flexing over the word words uh ultimate fighting championship yeah i remember that yeah

didn't even say ufc it wasn't even clever it was just like like an eight-year-old drew it they just threw people in the ring to see it was interesting yeah what happens when a boxer and a wrestler fight let's find out yeah it would be like it would be like if you just put like a bear and a moose together and you're like well he's got horns so that's gonna be a thing but he's got teeth and claws so let's see what comes out on top horns or claws well let's find out and ironically there was probably fighters one named moose and one named bear i'm sure we had a black rhino and a black bull i think was the other guy that so i mean if there's a rhino there's definitely going to be a moose and one named bear. I'm sure. We had a black rhino and a black bull, I think, was the other guy. If there's a rhino, there's definitely going to be a moose

and a bear. UFC 4 is in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Once again, one of our most metropolitan of places. If you're from around the world, that is not the best place you want to be. Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'm sure it's fine, but it's not the most glamorous location for a major

fight. But back then, they were just looking for people who want to watch an ass-kicking. He fights Keith Hackney. And they found it in fucking Oklahoma. Those people love an ass-kicking. Oh, yeah. They love it. Kick his ass. Yeah, they're into it, man.

They want to see a good ass-kicking and then have some steak, most people. So he fights Keith Hackney. All right. In this fight, I believe this is the fight where he comes to the ring with a giant cross on his back. What? He comes to the ring with an enormous, it's not, it's a fucking cross. It looks like it weighs 50 pounds.

It's thick. It's huge. It's made out of like railroad ties, this goddamn thing. And he's walking to the ring like he's like. It's not on wheels? No, he's like. He's actually carrying this shit. I know.

And he's looking like he's like leaning forward. I don't know if he was doing like a little Jesus, like, you's not on wheels. No, he's like, he's actually carrying this. I know. And he's looking like he's like leaning forward. I don't know if he was doing like a little Jesus, like, you know, play actor. I don't know if he was like acting it out or if he really got it. I need like a 200 pound cross. So I need to work out right before I fight. Either way, he comes to the ring with a cross on his back, which says a lot about him. Like, I have all this to bear. No, you don't.

It's your first fight and you're a jerk off. You're a complete scumbag jerk off so he loses this fight pretty handily this is i think i've seen this you probably have this is the one where it's he lost the fight was called it's a tko in the first round two minutes and 44 seconds into the first round jesus it's tko and on the side of it and all the all the sites where you can find this sort of thing, it says, parentheses, groin strikes. This is a fight you absolutely want to look up on YouTube. It's a quick fight, and it's basically one man getting another man on the ground and

punching him in the dick until he can't take any more punches in the dick. That's the fight. The whole fight. That's it. Are you any more punches in the dick. That's the fight. The whole fight. That's it. Ready? Just beating his dick. For the Christmas episode, just decking the balls. Decking the balls.

There you go, you scumbag fuck with your goddamn pun. There. There you got it in there. Shut the fuck up about it. No more. No more. Deck the fuck. I'm calling Dov Lundgren on here to give you a blood fist.

See what happens then. Just drilling him in the sack, though. He is punching like 19 strikes. Yeah, when you see the guys just like rabbit punches, he's just hauling off and wailing on his nuts. And that's what that sport was then. You could punch anywhere. You could eye gouge. You could bite.

You could do what the fuck ever. Just win the fight. And they were punching the dicks. He ended up doing some throat move and making him submit but i think he could have done anything the guy's balls were mashed potatoes at that point you know what i mean he could have done anything to him so funny he could have went and just caressed his head gently and the guy would have given up i'm like i can't feel my dick at all so it's all numb when you hear the rest of the story you are going to want to go back and watch him get his dick beat off let me tell story, you are going to want to go back and watch him get his dick beat off. Let me tell you something.

You're going to want to watch him and not in a good way. Not in a good way. You're going to want to watch his dick get kicked right off his body when we're done with this shit. Oh, it hurts. Dicks are so funny anyway, but getting

punched in it not many times is not funny unless it's a piece of shit unless it's a guy who it's it's like the karma couldn't be better for it honestly because this is 94 he got it and deserved it then absolutely also in 94 guess what else he does he's in another movie oh my god he is in bad blood starring lorenzo lamas yes that's the pinnacle lorenzo lamas and another greece reference here he was in greece too he was the dumb guy that Lorenzo Lamas. Yes. That's the pinnacle of success. Jesus Christ. Lorenzo Lamas. And another Grease reference here. He was in Grease, too.

He was the dumb guy that Sandy went out with when she was not banging Danny Zuko. So anyway, Lorenzo Lamas. This is the big star of the movie here. So you know it's quality. Yeah. It's a Lamas, guys. Come on. You know it's good when it's a Lamas.

So fucking handsome. The description of this, this one has 4.7 out of 10 on IMDb. So if you're under five, you're in bad waters, man. The description of this is, quote, a trucker, Lamas, has to come. Oh, so convincing. That's the one you cast for that. A trucker, Lamas, has to come home to help fight mobsters after his brother stole $5 million from them. Oh, my God.

So that's this piece of shit movie. Wow. Why are you coming home? Tell him to take the $5 million and go somewhere, and you can both stay away from wherever the hell you are. You weren't home to begin with if you had to come home. Yeah. And he's got $5 million. He doesn't have to be home.

Continue trucking, bro. Keep on trucking, brother. Give me that horn. You can do it. Stop at a Love's and pick up a new hat and say, fuck it. Keep going. That sounds like such a 70s movie, too, doesn't it? Like the trucker's got to come home off the road to help his brother fight the mob.

What's the toughest person you can think of that would fight the mob? Charles Bronson? No. No, no, no. Chuck Norris? No. A trucker. I'll bet you that's the guy.

Dolph Lundgren? No. Lorenzo Lamas. That's the guy. A trucker. I'll bet you that's the guy. Dolph Lundgren? No. Lorenzo Lamas. That's the guy. Score. Score. He played a character named Chang again in this. Wow.

That's his two Changs. Yeah. In separate franchises. Fuck. Separate franchises. This is not like he was revising a role. What was that? It was Shoot Fighter.

It's not part two, right? Shoot Fighter, Fight to the Death. He also played Chang. No, but there is a second Shoot Fighter that we'll talk about soon. Really? Oh, yeah. July 16th, 1995, he has a kickboxing match. Oh.

He fights kickboxing. He's going to figure out how to do that now. He's like, let me give this a shot. It's in Nagoya, Japan. It's against Nobuki Kikuda. And he is apparently a veteran kickboxer and a well-respected kickboxer. Gotcha. From what I've dug up on him. I don't know a lot about Japanese kickboxers, but I did some research

on it. This one here, I watched this fight in its entirety, and Joe comes in, he fights like he's automatically the crowd's booing the fuck out of him. Really? The other guy's kind of a legend, so it's fine. The other guy's got a rep, but they're booing him because of the way he acts.

And this is in Japan, where you have to have a bit of humble. He comes in 100% American. He comes into the ring like Ric Flair, basically. He comes in. He's wooing. Yeah, he's acting like he's acting a fool, and he's walking around, and they start the fight, and the guy's doing his bobbing like a stance, like you see fighters do. walking around, and they start the fight, and the guy's doing his bobbing like a stance,

like you see fighters do. Joe stands there flat-footed, like, with his chest out and his head up, chin out as high as he can get, like, I'm not 5'4". Like a Samoan gangster? Yeah, like, I'm not 5'4". He's standing there like, I'm not afraid of you. Right. And he, like, walks after the guy like that, like, with his hands kind of down. What?

And the other guy's kind of, you know, doing his thing, and he just starts kicking the other guy. He's kicking him in the leg. You know, Sun is kicking him in the leg, and he's trying trying and he's acting like yeah i'm you're gonna eat shit right you can tell he's just got this air about him he starts attacking he goes in on on what's his name kokuda he goes in on him and he's just wailing away with body shots and shots to the head but he's just swinging wild shots and this guy's blocking everything he's got his hands up he's not being affected right um and you know this is know, this is still the first round.

Right. Joe comes out firing. Finally, this guy decides, I see an opening. Right. And starts to lighten Joe up. Now, Joe actually knocked him down. Really? With a left.

He hit him with a left and kind of knocked him down for half a second. The guy popped right back up again. Yeah, he hit him with a left and he popped back up again. And then next thing you know, this guy's like, okay, I think I know what you're doing. And then he comes in and beats the shit out of Joe. Just punching and pummeling and kicking and just beating his fucking ass. Skips the dick kicks. Yeah, it's a first round knockout it turns into.

If you would have saw how cocky he was beforehand, you'd go, oh, there's no way that guy's getting knocked out in the first round. He looks like he really has some confidence. But no, he was just putting on his inner dolph lundgren and going out there and acting like he had something at the old k3 grand prix 95 which sounds like wow i'm an amazing event sounds it sounds like a race it does sound like a race yeah it does and no instead it's guys beating the shit out of each other it's a big fat and not short guy getting his ass kicked getting his ass kicked and he outweighed the other guy by like 35 pounds, I want to say, too. And the other guy,

he whooped his ass, if you watch this fight. The other guy, at first, Joe's going after him. You look like, oh, man, this guy's he better get aggressive because this Joe's going to knock the shit out of him. He was just biding his time. He said, this guy has no skills and eventually he's going to open up and I'm going to pound him into the fucking ground.

Now, the mid-90s, at this point, around 95, the police stop investigating the kidnap rape that we talked about earlier. They stop investigating. Case goes cold. After a few years, no matter what, cases go cold because they have no leads. If they have no leads, who are they going to talk to? What are they going to do? They just had nothing else left. Right.

You can't keep talking to the same fucking people. No. They went into the gang for a year. They did all this shit. They tried their best, and they could not find anything. They couldn't find anything, so that was it. It's horrible. It goes cold.

That poor girl. Yeah, and she's thinking, well, I'll just— She's got no closure. No, and she's thinking, it's been five years. What am I going to do? At this point, she tries to get her life together. She had been having a horrible, horrible time. Yeah.

Five horrible Christmases. Five horrible Christmases. Five horrible Christmases. Just a horrible time. She ends up moving out of California. I would, too. And she said that was like a huge weight lifted off her. Of course. Because she felt like they were behind her, basically, because she didn't know they were out there.

She felt like they're probably still here. Yeah. They've got no reason to leave. That has to be scary, too. If you've been assaulted by someone of that nature, and we're going to get into the details of it and they're horrible. I would be afraid that what if they come back? Who knows? You didn't know they were coming the first time.

How would you know? You know what I mean? So I can't imagine the trauma this lady was going through with that. She moves away. She ends up getting married to an old high school friend of hers. She contacted and they stayed together ever since. They got married.

She had four kids. Wow. Ended up having four kids twins I have seven twins so I mean she established a life for herself away from California and somehow found somebody she went to high school Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's strange, but you know good for her though You know Facebook trying to put her life back together and meanwhile Joe is appearing in the shoot fighter 2 Is his deal here and we piece of shit got a sequel. That's fucking crazy. This is 4.8 stars on IMDb.

And you know what? We're not even going to give the description because it's basically Shoot Fighter 1 with Nick and whoever fucking... Somebody's mad at their boss. Nick and Ruben. Yeah, except now they're like... I don't remember what it is,

but it's the same fucking plot, basically. Same character, same plot. Convoluted horseshit. The first one sucked. Let's make a second one. Let's go. And the second one always sucks too. Yeah, and so he was in Shoot Fighter 1, but he did not play the same character.

He did not reprise his role. I think he was in Shoot Fighter 1 where he was like Chinese gunman or some horseshit like that. You will never guess his name in this movie, his character name. Did he get Chang? No, no. His name is Lance Stewart. What? Lance Stewart.

What? We got a short, pudgy Asian guy. Lance Stewart, I think, is the right name for him. Did they have, like, a sudden, like, conscience? So, like, we can't name all Asians these weird fucking names anymore. We got to give them something more Christian, more just wholesome name. Lance. Lance Stewart sounds like a local news anchor.

This is Lance Stewart live from Portland 5. I'm sorry. I've got some kale in my teeth. Lance Stewart coming at you live. Lance Stewart. I can't even like. Lance Stewart. We got the weather and the news. Who would look at him and go, Lance Stewart I can't even like Lance Stewart we got the weather

and the news who would look at him and go Lance Stewart that's the guy weather and you wouldn't look at him weather and traffic

on the fives with Lance Stewart if you met him and he said Lance Stewart you'd go really what

really really it's not fucking with me really no no seriously what's your real name tell me it's Chang

your real name's like Hung Wing Mang Huang Wee Woo and were like, I can't have that be my name. And you changed to Joe Stewart. Your name is not fucking. It's holy fuck, right? Yeah. Your name is not Joe Stewart.

So he goes on. So you think he's so far, he's got like six terrible acting credits basically. They're all awful. You'd think acting probably not his thing, right? I mean, not to bash him too hard. That's six more acting credits than I've got. Very true. Very true. But I... I'd rest my

laurels on this podcast more than those fucking six credits, though. That's true. He did a movie with Dolph Lundgren. Think about that. I'll bet more people have listened to this podcast than seen those fucking movies combined. Probably, honestly. You're probably right. You're probably right. Dolph

Lundgren's mother probably saw it. It was like, honey, it's very good. It's very good. In whatever Eastern Europe or whatever Northern European accent she has. I don't know if they import those movies into fucking Japan or Korea. That's where he's from. Oh, all of these were released in Japan. Every one of them?

They all had Japanese release dates on IMDb. They were straight to video in America and Dolph Lundgren's coming to Japan. Because in Japan, Dolph Lundgren, they look at him and they're like, oh, wow, nobody here looks like Dolph Lundgren. It's one of those things. Oh, he looks different. Yeah, it's a weird thing. But things turn around for Joe Sonny.

He's about to get a good bit of fame. Even more fame than getting his nuts bashed in for 15, for a whole round. 1997, he lands a role in a- 97. Lands a role in a huge blockbuster movie. Uh-oh. Huge. No more Blood Fist.

This is no more fucking, you know- This is a great movie. This is Austin Powers. Oh, the spy who shagged me. Oh, and that one, the first one. The first movie he lands a role in. Unbelievable. Now, Austin Powers, if you're too young to remember, Austin Powers was an enormous hit.

Right. I mean, it spawned multiple sequels, toys, Halloween costumes. Beyonce got to act in one of them. It was the hit of the year that year. It was a gigantic hit, and he landed a role in it. He's the only Asian guy in the film, so you probably know which role he had. Don't really have to point him out. He played Random Task, which as we all know is a takeoff of the old odd job thing.

And in Bond, it was a hat. He'd take the hat off. And that was Tanaka, the wrestler, the old wrestler. It was Mr. Fuji's tag team partner. We're going way old school on that. Nice job. That was that guy. He looks very similar to him.

He really does. They have a really similar look, so it was a good idea. But what does he do? He uses his fucking shoe. Exactly. That's him. He's an odd job, except he's random tasking this, and he throws a shoe, a deadly shoe. And it breaks a fucking statue in the movie.

It blasts its head off. Yeah, that's to show his prowess. Right. And then he ends up attacking. He can do that with a the movie. Yeah, the bust of the... Like blasts its head off. Yeah, that's to show his prowess. Right. And then he ends up attacking... He can do that with a Bruno Mali. Yeah. He has a scene with Mike Myers where he chucks a shoe at him and, you know, he blocks and then he comes, Jokes comes over and chokes Mike Myers and then I think Elizabeth Hurley

hits him with a champagne bottle or something, right? Isn't that... He hits him in the face with it and he goes, good God, man, who throws a shoe? Something like that, yeah. And then he attacks him and ch face with it and he goes, good God, man, who throws a shoe? Something like that. Yeah. And then he attacks him and chokes him. And then. Judo chop and the champagne bottle.

And that's it for him. And that's his moment. That's his 15 minutes of fame right there. It is. And that's. And it's a huge 15 minutes of fame. Listen, if I'm if I'm a fat Asian guy, I would die for that role. And he's saying, yeah, I mean, from then on.

Think about that. Because when when Austin Powers was made, nobody knew it was going to be a giant hit. Right. It was a lower budget movie. They raised financing a lot on their own. And it was just a lot of dumb jokes. A lot of stupid stuff. Mike Myers was not a huge movie star at that point.

He had done, like, So I Married an Axe Murderer and Wayne's World and shit like that. But he was on Saturday Night Live before that. So, yeah. I mean, he had. He was a star, but not a movie star. Right. He had never had, outside of Wayne's world, which wasn't really him. It was like, you know, the sketch was the whole deal.

Outside of that, he had not, you know, this was huge. This was this was what made Mike Myers a household name. Right. This was huge. And, you know, all the lines, baby, you're going to shag me and all that shit. You know, how many Randy, baby? It's it's essentially why. How many Randy, baby? It's essentially why. It's essentially everybody in America's impression of him is basically us doing the English accent. We just lampoon that shit. How annoying was every single Halloween party that year?

Just the worst. 97, the worst year for Halloween parties. Everybody with their bullshit chest hair out. Yeah, that was terrible. So he's random task. But for him, he's famous. Yeah. He had no lines. Right. He just ch, but for him, he's famous. Yeah. He had no lines.

Right. He just choked a guy, and he's famous for it. He said nothing, and he threw a shoe. Right away, if I just go, yeah, Random Task from Austin Powers, people know who that is. Absolutely. It's wild that he got that famous, and he continues to fight even after that. Really? The weird thing is, 97, this happens.

He's in this movie. You would think this would be an opening for more acting work. Maybe get out of the Dolph Lundgren genre. And he doesn't. This is it. He has no more acting roles. Nothing else. Nothing.

It's the end of his career. You're in a huge hit, so now you get nothing. I don't know how that is. It's weird because this movie got him this movie, got him this movie, and then he does a big movie, and he's not even in Blood Fist anymore. He doesn't even get that. And now he's typecast forever. He might have thought that. Maybe he thought that, I'm not going to go back to those shitty little movies.

I'm big now. And then he never got another job again. He's out there up for the same roles as fucking Tom Cruise. Absolutely. That was 97. And then in 2002, we go to now. So that's five years later. He has had no other acting roles, and he hasn't had another fight since then.

I don't know what the fuck he was doing. What? Basically. I have no idea what he was doing. There's no info on that. Who knows? Going around being a complete jerk off is all I can imagine. He must have got a shitload of money for that Austin Powers stuff.

I doubt it. I'm sure he had something. I mean, I'm sure he had some royalties on DVDs or something like that. I mean, it was on television four trillion times a week. TBS made their fucking living on Austin Powers for like three years.

And they'd do fucking marathons, too. They'd do all of them right in a row. They'd play the same one back to back. Austin Powers would end, and then Austin Powers would start right back up. You're like, what the fuck is going on? I just saw this fucking movie. They literally would be like, we're going to play three Austin Powers would start right back up. You're like, what the fuck is going on? I just saw this fucking movie. They literally would be like, we're going to play three Austin Powers in a row. Like, why?

Who's watching that shit? And then after that, we're going to play Con Air. And then we're going to write the fuck back to that shit. Write back to that. Also, too, you can check on AMC for Tombstone over and over and over and over. That's a great movie. That I can deal with. I'm all right with that, too, honestly.

That's a damn good movie. That's the best movie ever made. If it's not, I'm watching it. I am, too. And I have it on DVD. I'll keep watching it. I'll watch it with the commercials. I don't too, honestly. That's a damn good movie. That's the best movie ever made. If it's not, I'm watching it. I am, too. And I have it on DVD. I'll keep watching it. I'll watch it with the commercials. I don't give a fuck.

That's fantastic. So we get to February 22, 2002. My birthday again. He's fighting again. Jesus Christ, look at you. Fucking podcast back-to-back of shit happening on my birthday. Of idiots doing stupid shit on your birthday. I think they were both fights, too.

Yeah, they were. They were. This one, he is in Tokyo, Japan. So he's back in Japan again. It's for Pride. Pride, the both fights, too. Yeah, they were. They were. This one, he is in Tokyo, Japan. So he's back in Japan again. It's for Pride. Pride, the company Pride, fighting. It's the best volume one of Pride. So this is early Pride here.

He loses in 33 seconds to Yusuke Imanara by submission. And I believe this is the fight where he dicks around for a few seconds. And the second the guy gets a hold of him and gets him down he slides out of the ring and says he hurt his elbow and just leaves awesome i believe this is the fight he's like i'm out of here that's a great way to leave a fight he's like that's enough to get paid right i went in there he touched me i can get paid for that clock was going man this shit's over i'm going to fuck home i'm done i've had it i'm out of here, man.

I got a callback in the morning. I got a callback for Blood Fist 8, so I got to get down there. Lundgren's going to be there. It's important. I got to be in there. That's what he's doing there. So now I think it's 0-2. Yep. We don't count the kickboxing fight.

We won't count that. In MMA, he's 0-2 now. Next one, April 12, 2002. This is a couple months later. He's into it. It's in Los Angeles this time. His hometown. It's Extreme Pancration 2 is the name of the event.

Pancration. P-A-N-K ration. Like ration. Why? I have no idea. 2. So there was one of them. Apparently it was successful enough to spawn a... Then again there was two shoot fighter movies too. That's where I was just going. He fights Joe Moriera, and the time is listed at N.A.

What? On everything that's not applicable. On Wikipedia, and I couldn't find a better definition for it, on Wikipedia it said submission, parentheses, terror. What? So I think he ran away. It's not an applicable time. I think he just said, never mind. I think he ran away. It's not a non-applicable time. I think he just said, never mind. I think he got in there.

I'm terrified. I quit. And said, no, thank you. I'm going to go now. And just took off. I really believe that's what happened. Submission, terror. I've never heard of that before.

I've never heard of that, too. That's crazy. That's one way to win a fight, though. You can terrorize people in the UFC. The other guy went, shit, didn't even have to break a sweat. Cool. He just went right back to the locker room and was happy, I'm sure. That's hilarious. So, you know,

you'd figure at this point, now he's, the last two fights, he ducked out. When was that fight again? 2002, April 12, 2002. April 12, 2002. So a couple months later. It's seven months, or five months after 9-11. Yeah, absolutely. Is that the terror? Is that what terror did? I think so. I think he was very

afraid. He was fighting Osama bin Laden. That's what he was doing. That's why. He was very afraid of him. That's crazy. Unbelievable. He was fighting Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. That was what he was.

He said, oh, my God, that's a lot of body hair. That's a lot of chest hair. I'm leaving. So you would think at this point they'd stop using him. You would hope so. He's had two pride fights, and they were both embarrassing. Absolutely embarrassing. The last one, it doesn't even have a cause of submission.

It's just terror. I don't know what the hell. And the time is N.A. N.A. No embarrassing. The last one, it doesn't even have a cause of submission. It's just terror. I don't know what the hell. And the time is N.A. N.A. No time. That's insane. He took off. No worries.

So the best of July 20th is the best of Pride, the best volume two. Okay. So he did so well in one that we got to bring him back for two. You know what I mean? He slid it out of the ring. He's already proven he's not part of the best. So I don't know why he's in that. Can we stop calling it the best?

Right away, yeah. I'm calling bullshit on that pay-per-view and I'm not ordering it, I don't think. This is another one in Tokyo. You know what, if they called it the worst, more people would watch that. I really think so. This might be entertaining. This is going to be terrible. This is going to be awful.

I love it. I love it. So this is in Tokyo. He fights Jukui Nakajima. I'm going to be awful. I love it. I love it. So this is in Tokyo. He fights Jukui Nakajima. I'm going to butcher that fucking Japanese name. All these names sound the same to me anyway. I don't know. Yeah.

He doesn't make it a minute. He submits in 54 seconds. He's a hard ass, man. He said he had a shoulder injury and stopped. So, I mean, that's – he just doesn't want to fight. No. That's what it is. He's not interested in taking an ass kick at this guy.

I don't feel like that's his strong point. He seems to think whenever he's down, it's just over. Fuck it, I quit. Fuck it, I'm leaving. Yeah. And then also, too, in these fights, he came out in one of the fights and had, were like, he started wearing thongs to the ring. Perfect.

He was wearing like a leopard thong. Yes. He's a short, fat Asian guy with a leopard thong on. Being honest, I'd pay for that pay-per-view. It's interesting. If they called it the worst and he came out in that, that's my money's worth. I'm in. Yeah.

So now after this, he starts wrestling in Japan, which he should be doing. And I saw his ring intro for this. He probably should have started at that first. Wow. Not worked his way down to it. Absolutely. I saw the ring intro for this, and at that first. Wow. Not worked his way down to it. Absolutely. I saw the ring intro for this, and it is amazing.

He is introduced as the Samurai Joe Sun from America. The Samurai Joe Sun. He comes in with like some Asian rap song playing. When I think rap, I think Asia. Now, set the scene. Okay, here he comes. He's wearing some crazy-ass shorts. He has got eye makeup on.

He's got, like, silver eye makeup on that makes his eyes look weird. Yeah. It's weird, like, almost like wings he draws on his eyes. And he's coming to the ring to wrestle, and he's got a microphone, and he is intermittently rapping along with the song. Rapping Gangnam Style or some shit. Literally.

Yeah. Rapping. It sounded like if whatever Asian hardcore rap is. He was mean looking like, yeah. I don't know what the fuck he was saying, but unbelievable. I have a pen. I have an apple. This was his ring entrance.

He's singing Apple Pen as he's coming to the ring. You know it was. Now, he's a wrestler, so he's trying to be a bad guy and trying to get booed the only boos he got was when they said from america the rest of them they're like oh fuck this guy who cares he's a little fat guy rapping i don't care and otherwise they weren't just they didn't like him they didn't care about him there's like who cares that didn't last very long now later on when he's talking uh to someone uh i have an in their own words about his fighting career, which is great. They ask him about,

you know, so I hear you were a fighter, blah, blah, blah. And he says in their own words, quote, I lost all my fights. I was in UFC 4. I did Pride 2002, February and July. I lost both fights. I pro-wrestled there for a little while. It was going good, but I didn't sign a contract.

A lot of other shit going on. If it was going good, you would have signed anything they put before you, I think. You would sign up for Blood Fist. You don't care. If it was going good, maybe you'd have won a fight. That's not going well. No, it is not going well at all. It's terrible.

It's about to go much worse for him at this point here. Now, in 2008, early 2008, he's arrested for vandalism. Okay. He apparently lost his mind and he was mad at his ex-roommate and kicked in the door of his car. Okay. Like kicked it in. Like pretty good. He's a powerful little guy.

Yeah. And he knows how to kick. I mean, like we said, we're making fun of his lack of fighting skills. He'd murder both of us. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he knows how to do shit. Right.

He's a badass. He just can't fight against people that are very well trained in fighting. Trained and skilled. And I can't imagine this guy really keeps up on the training. I can't imagine him being like, I really got to put my nose to the grindstone and focus. He's just a jerk off this guy. So May 16th, 2008, he pleads guilty to felony vandalism. He pled guilty?

Pled guilty. Yeah, they had him on film, I believe, in a surveillance tape. So he pleads guilty to this and he's thinking, look, I'm going to plead guilty because felony vandalism is one of those things where it probably carried a five-year sentence if you're convicted or a maximum of five years and

whatever. So he was like, whatever, I'll plead. He gets 60 days in prison. Like, whatever. Who cares? I'll do this. This seems like a smart legal move, right? Not so smart. We're going to find out why here. He's placed on probation also after the 60-day period. Yeah.

I've already got it. I already know what's going on. But keep going. He's given 90 additional days for the probation violation. Apparently, he did not keep them up to date on where he was living. He was moving around. And he needed to keep his probation officer abreast of this shit and he didn't.

So they violate him. He gets another 90 days for that. Also, too, there's a prop that passed, a proposition in California. Fuck yeah, it did. Prop 69. When you're a felon, what happens? Well, when you're a felon, you have to give a sample of your DNA. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. That's a problem. When he's brought in, he violates, he still hadn't given it. And then, so he violated and they brought him in and that's when they took it from him. Gotcha. So they didn't even have it before then. Now, we're talking about 18 years after the fact. 18 years.

So basically- So now they've got a fucking registry. They've got a bank of all kinds of people now. So he's in Orange County Jail. And he's sitting there. He's got his jumpsuit on. And there's a video of this. The orange one in Orange County.

It's an orange one. And the police are discussing everything with him. And after the woman, there's a woman and a male officer. There's two. And the woman asks him about his fighting. And he gives him the, I lost all my fights, blah, blah, blah. And then a male detective chimes in here. Okay.

And before we do that, I have one more in their own words. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. Because she asked him about his movie thing, too. She's like, I hear you did some acting. And he says in their own words, quote, I do comedy, play bad guys sometimes. Did you see Austin Powers? That's his pickup line.

I played a little role in part one. I'm a professional MMA fighter. You can find me on Wikipedia, believe it or not. Believe it or not, he's on Wikipedia. I've got a Wikipedia page. I'm kind of famous. Yes, he does. I'm kind of a big deal.

Can I buy you a drink? At this point, yeah. So this is, and it's just like a normal discussion. The whole time she asked him about his fighting, asked him about his acting. He's like, hey, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then the male detective off camera chimes in and he says, quote, OK, Joe, let me tell you what the deal is here, OK? A young girl, 19 years old, late at night, early morning of Christmas Eve, December 24th, 1990, driving home to one of those big apartment complexes out on Brookhurst. She parked in the carport.

Two guys jam her in the carport. They grab her, throw her in the car, drive her some distance away. Joe says, that's bad. That's his response. That's bad. His butthole just tightened. He's like, I should send a picture of this tight butthole to Dolph real quick. Yeah, it's 3 a.m. I gotta send him one.

This shit's impressive right now. Bank this one for later so I can send it to him. The policeman says, it is very bad. And the DNA tells us it's you. You're fucked. You know what Joe's answer is? Wrong guy. Wrong guy.

Have you seen many Asians? Because we all look alike. We all look very similar. We totally look alike. Wrong guy. So they show him a police photo lineup. That's the only time in the history of Asians looking alike that one probably said it. Yeah, he's like, no, we all look alike. You know what I you know what i mean it's probably this guy who knows fuck there's a lot of

us i fought a bunch of a lot of guys named joe sun too i'm sure of it that's fine look the whole cast of blood fist five just look at any of those guys they're all the same so he uh joe says wrong guy so the police show him a photo lineup sheet you know they make with six pictures on it three on top row three on the bottom, and they make you pick one out. And we've all seen law and order. Police ask him, you recognize anybody in you in there?

That's you, right? And he says, yeah, that's me on the lineup sheet. So the cop says, what we did, we showed that to the girl.

We showed that to the girl who was kidnapped. And she goes, quote, 100% certain it's him. I've seen that face every night i go to bed she said that's the face i've seen of the guy who kidnapped me one of the guys who kidnapped me and raped me just that just she never saw austin powers again no well we'll get to that too there's actually a reference to that he says just that alone screws you okay no doubt about it

okay and the dna is saying yes you're the guy and you're sitting here saying i don't know that's my favorite though that's like a you know when those mentalists like do like a magic trick with like numbers and shit and they're like that's your number right that's your number right yeah now let me let me tell you something and then they fucking show you some extra shit that makes it even more mind-blowing that's what just happened to him and i guarantee it felt like there was a reptile lamp on his face when they said, let me tell you how we know that's you. You see his face, and he's just like, no, wrong guy. He's lucky for him he has very non-expressive eyes

because they're very small, his eyes, honestly. Not an Asian joke at all. He has very thin eyes, and he just kept the same face, and he's like, no, no, wrong guy. He's just trying to play it off like, no, no, no. He thought you saw me, but it's not. So the policeman says, how's that going to fly, Joe? So now he's put on the spot.

What does he say? In their own words, let's find out. In their own words, quote, this is scary. You know, I can't tell you something I don't know. And you say you have this evidence, you know, and it's scary. I've never done anything like that. I have no idea what you're talking about. That's nasty.

It wasn't me. That's nasty. That's nasty. Wow, man. That's not the response I would give. I'd be like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? This is bullshit. And he's just going, no, no, no.

That's fucking unreal. So, I mean, all this shit has happened. He was in a blockbuster fucking movie. Huge. He's a famous guy. Before that, even before that, when he did that, before he, he was a normal person before he became a fucking asshole rapist. Right.

You know what I mean? He's sitting there in the goddamn room there. And the police, you know how they leave you alone to stew? Yeah. You know what I mean? They send other cops in there. Like, yeah, you go in and fuck with them and say a couple things and then walk out. They walk in and they're like, I'm going to go get some cigarettes.

You want something? Exactly. No, I'm good. So, I mean, they do that. And then they come in and through the door, it's the shwarmer man. I made for you. And he says. How is it you've come to arrive here?

Why are you here? What you doing, man? You have DNA all over, to arrive here? Why are you here? What are you doing, man? You DNA all over girl. Why? Police say you want shawarma. Police? You in movie with men from Saturday Night Live. Why?

You do this now. I don't understand. Why you come here? Sign say closed. You in movie with guy with just hair. The girl go home. Once she inside, sign say closed? You would move it with guy with chest hair. The girl go home. Once she inside, signs say closed. You go away now.

You don't go try to get her, bring her in. What's wrong with you? She say she have money, then she not give to you. I've been there. But still, no, you no do that. You want shwarma? I no make for you. You bad man.

You very bad. I'm very happy today. No. Signs say closed. He's gone. So now, I had to do that before we got into the details of this because this is fucked up, man. This is not cool coming up here. So now let's get into the details of exactly what happened and exactly what this pile of utter human excrement did.

I feel uncomfortable now. We're going to call this girl Victoria. That's what she chose to call herself. There was a 48-hour special on this thing, which is interesting, and she called herself Victoria in that. So let's call her that. I like it. She was 19, like we said. She lived in Huntington Beach.

Yeah. She, like I said, looked like a nice girl from all the pics, went out, did the Christmas lights thing. She arrived home at her apartment complex just after midnight, so now it's Christmas Eve. She noticed that the front gate to the complex was open. That's not good. Now, apartment complexes that, you know, out here in America, I don't know where they are all, but they're gated and you go up and you punch in your little passcode and they open and then they close again.

So people can't come in and, you know, steal shit from cars and all that stuff. Or rape people. Rape and kidnap people. So she says, also too, she pulled in and all the cars have their own little carport, all connected, and the light over her carport was flickering. You know those fluorescent bulbs when they go on and off? So we're setting a creepy scene

right here. It's past midnight, open gate, carport flickering, young girl gets out. She says she heard a car coming into the complex when she got out. You know how the gates have the little bottom one of the gate that you hear the tires when she got out. You know how the gates have the little bottom – Yeah. You hear the tires when they go over.

The gate actually rides on to close. Yeah, the little rail or whatever. It's a piece of flex-angled iron that the wheels roll on. Pretty much. So she says she hears that. And so at this point, too, she's got a little dog with her. Like we said, she's got a little dog. She tucks the little dog into her shirt because she said it was cold outside.

And she took it for a walk. She got out of the car, walked around, heard the car come in. Dog did its business. Whatever. I'm not sure. I don't have that good of research to find out exactly. Did it shit? Did it shit? I'm not sure if she picked it up or not. If she didn't, maybe this whole thing, maybe that's what this was all about.

Maybe they're like, you pick up that dog shit. I don't know. There's going to be a problem. There's going to be a problem. Anyway, she's got the little dog, tucks it in her shirt. She walks up on the sidewalk to go into her apartment and sees something run by a light. She's like, what was that? She didn't know if it was like a person, an animal. She was like, I don't know. Whatever.

She kept watching, walking. Then she's approached by a man. She's approached by the Hispanic man. And she said he repeatedly said, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Like, he acted like he was all, excuse me, I me, excuse me. Like he acted like he was all. Excuse me, I need to rape you. Excuse me, rape. The rape man is here.

Yeah, he's got the ice cream truck music playing. The rape man is here. Paletas, paletas. So he says, excuse me, excuse me, I'm lost. Can you tell me where the beach is? First of all, it's 1230. Not in her pants. Not in her pants.

It's hunting the beach. Listen for the ocean and drive that way. You know what I'm saying? You'll find it eventually. It's hunting the beach. Listen for the ocean and drive that way. You know what I'm saying? You'll find it eventually.

So at that point, she turns to talk to him. At that point, a second man, an Asian man, Joe's son, we find out, approaches her holding a cigarette in his hand, smoking a cigarette. She called him, quote, an intimidating Asian. Yes. Which he's a mean looking dude. Yeah. And he flicks the cigarette. Did he crack his neck like he did in the movie? Exactly. Right. Yes. Which he's a mean looking dude. Yeah. And he flicks the cigarette. Did he crack his neck like he did in the movie?

Exactly. Right. Probably. He flicks the cigarette and she says she remembers watching the cigarette go through the air and then they both jumped on her. In slow fucking motion. Yeah. She said she remembered watching it and watching it hit the ground. And at that point, one of them hit her from the back, one of them hit her from the front

and they sandwiched her, she said. They like, you know, held her so she couldn't get away. A is held to her head by joe joe's son holds a gun to her head she said the the hispanic man had a gun too they both had silencers also oh my god i mean that's serious you can't even be like hey if you shoot me everyone's gonna fucking hear it's like you could just shoot me and leave me here and no one will know so the joe says to her whispers in her ear quote i'm going to fucking kill you I'm going to throw you off the cliffs. I'm going to mutilate you so bad and throw you down the cliffs. Wow.

We're not even going to do any of their own words on that because that's just fucking disgusting. Wow. It's not even funny. It's just awful. She said the Asian man, she said Joe was calling all the shots. He was in charge of this fucking, this was his idea probably. She says he reached over and gouged her eyes, scratched her eyeballs basically. Yeah, so she's like he's being brutal.

It's at this point when he scratches the eyes that the dog bites him. Yeah. The dog's in her shirt and she's being jostled around. Yeah. The dog bites him. So he's like, what the fuck is that shit? They didn't know she had a dog even. Her pussy bites.

Yeah, whoa, what's that all about? Her eyeballs, they bit me. So she, at this point they bite, they both off. And he's like, what the fuck? So she tries to run. As she tries to run, she throws her dog in the bushes. So she said, in case they tackle me or something, I wouldn't crush the dog. And as she's running, she is grabbed by the hair. Oh, God.

And both men begin beating her now. And they pistol whip her right in the face, hit her in the mouth. That's what loosened up all her teeth. Oh, Jesus. Horrible, man. The Asian tells her that they will shoot her neighbor. They say, look, these guys pointing a gun at a window next to her house. And there's a light on in there.

And Joe tells her he's going to shoot your neighbors if you scream. Wow. She says, quote, quote, first one that hears you is going to get their head blown off and you're going to watch. So they're trying to play on her sense of don't get anybody else hurt here too. And, you know, whatever. She's playing on a sense that she's a decent human being probably. And so she doesn't know what to do. And she said she was thinking about it for a second.

And then they hit her again and it knocked her half unconscious. Next thing you know, she's being stuffed into the car, she says. And when she wakes up, they're driving. And they tell her they're going to drive to Compton at first. Uh-huh. And then they say, where are the- You want to snoop dog? Yeah.

Then they say, where are the cliffs around here? What? Oh, so they're not going to go around there. No. Well, they are, too, because he's from Huntington Beach. I mean, that's what he's announced in UFC, from Huntington Beach, California. I mean, that's- Even in his UFC profile, he says, before he says the Jesus shit, he says, I'm Joe's son.

I'm from Huntington Beach, California. He should know where the ocean is. So anyway, he tells her, where are the cliffs? She says, where are the cliffs around here? And she says, I don't know where the cliffs are because she doesn't want to fucking be thrown off a cliff. And he's already said, I'm going to throw you off a fucking cliff. So smart move here. The men pull over then in front of a random house.

They pull over and the Asian gets in the back. Joe, we'll just say it's Joe because it is. Joe gets in the back and tells her, quote, bitch, take your clothes off. I can't. You just beat the fuck out of me. Not something you want to hear while someone has a fucking gun on you. This is worse than Dave Meggett. This makes Dave Meggett look like a fucking gentleman.

This is disgusting, man. Puts a gun to her ear and told her that he has no problem shooting her. Of course not. Later on, he'll take the bullets out of the gun and count them in front of her as he puts them back in. He's fucking tormenting this poor girl. It's fucking horrible. This is horrible. This is the worst thing I've ever heard in my life.

This isn't just like all of our guys up to this point who have been rapists and they're all shitbag. If you're a rapist, you're a piece of shit. But I mean, all of these guys, they're a different kind of piece of shit. They're in there. They want to get whatever they have off and then they fucking take off. This guy is enjoying. Not just that. Torment.

He's living this and loving it. Oh, yeah. And then later on, 12 years later or eight years later, we all laughed. Try 18 years. Oh, 18. This is seven years later. Seven years later. We all laughed at him and enjoyed and enjoyed him millions of people i hate that movie so much now you have to um he tells her quote i need a beach girl i needed a beach girl for my

christmas present to myself wow then i'm going to throw you down i want to make sure the cops see you oh my god so he's like he's scaring the shit out of her obviously he knows what to say yeah he's a real gentleman she starts stopping at this point and thinking how can i get out of this they're gonna kill me how can i get them to not kill she's a survivor she's a fucking survivor she doesn't just give in and she is a survivor man to get through this and she says she has an idea she had just got and this was back in the day when if you wanted a picture someone had to mail you a physical picture of something. You can't email a picture of something.

She had just gotten a few days earlier a picture of one of her friend's babies who just had a baby. Sent her a picture and it was in her wallet. Nice. So she's saying, that's my baby. I just had a baby. You can't, you know, please don't kill me. I have a child. Blah, blah, blah. She's thinking maybe this will do it. What can fucking do it?

She's trying every angle. She told him, you know, you need to let me go because I have a child, blah, blah, blah. She's thinking maybe this will do it. What can fucking do it? She's trying every angle. She told him, you know, you need to let me go because I have a baby. You know, I need to take care of my baby. So whatever. He said he wasn't going to let her go after she saw him now. He said, I'm not going to let you go now. I think his exact words were, bitch, I'm not going to let you go after you've seen me. So, I mean, literally everything he said started out with bitch, which is number one.

It says a lot about him. She said that she had a smart idea then. She said, you gouge my eyes out and knock my contacts out. I can't see anything. Oh, brilliant. She said, I can't see anything. So you guys jump me in the dark and scratch my contacts out. I couldn't fucking pick you out if you tried.

Right. Like, I don't know you people. Right. Like, she's smart, man. She's trying. She said the men got very quiet at that point, like they were thinking about it. Like, shit, did she not see us? Fuck. She's got a man. She's trying. She said the men got very quiet at that point, like they were thinking about it. Like, shit, did she not see us? Fuck.

She's got a point. This is good. So she was like, are they buying this? Fuck. You know, like, this is a pretty big decision whether – are they buying this or not? It's literally what she said. Like, are they buying this? Like, hopefully they're buying this because otherwise they're going to throw me off a cliff.

Right. Then they took turns raping her. Oh, God. Holding the gun in her face, saying they're going to kill her, forcing her to perform oral sex on women at gunpoint and sodomizing her and every fucking horrible thing you could do to a person they're doing to her in the back of this car. Jesus Christ. Wish somebody would come out on the lawn or something in the house.

We're the goddamn cops just accidentally driving by. We're Tom Payne's fucking police officers. This is horrible, right? This gets worse. Oh, my God. How much worse can it get? The Asian, Joe, Joe at this point decides that he tells the other guy that he wants to rape her with the gun. Oh, Christ.

So he does that, which is horrible. And this is after he reloaded it in front of her so she knows it's loaded. Don't move. So she's thinking, this is going to go off at any moment too and fucking kill me. So she's like, what's the more horrible thing? Could this get any worse basically? Which no, it can't. No.

So she's freaking out about that. Eventually they're done with all this and they tell her, get out of the car. They throw her out of the car. She's naked. Yeah. Out in the, you know, outside. Right. Joe tells her to get on her hands and knees and puts the gun on her naked. Yeah. Out in the, you know, outside. Right. Joe tells her to get on her

hands and knees and puts the gun on her forehead. OK, so this is not looking great at this. No. And also she's trying to look up and talk to him and she's he's telling her, keep your head down, which that's a bad sign, too. She feels like he's about to shoot her, which is insane. Just then the other man throws his jacket on top of her. The other, the Hispanic gentleman throws, and he's not a gentleman. In a moment of clarity. The piece of shit fucking guy that was with him

throws a jacket on her. You look cold. Take this. And the Asian guy, Joe, freaks out, and he says, what the fuck are you doing? Right. And you're kind of cramping my style here. And the other man says, quote, she's cold, man.

So this woman. She's also bleeding sore and dying at the moment. But this woman at that point said, I've got him. I reached him. I got one of them. Gives a shit about me as a human being. Because that's the thing. They always talk about this with serial killers.

They want to dehumanize their people. They got to make them trash. Yeah, they have to. That's the only way they can do it. A lot have to. That's the only way they can do it. A lot of them, it's the only way they can do it. You look at like Richard Speck. Yep. Richard Speck with the nurses.

Yep. He only raped one of them, and that was the one he had tied up face down on the couch because she was dehumanized. Right. Once he talked to them, he couldn't do it anymore. So it's that sort of thing. Yep. And she's thinking, okay, maybe I have a chance here.

And she's thinking, okay, maybe I have a chance here. But Joe pushes the gun against her head further, harder, and says, one, two. This is the fucking worst. And then says, stops, reaches down, puts his head down by her ear and says, by the way, bitch, Merry fucking Christmas. Run. Go. Oh, my God. And tells her to fucking go. That's not, you're no Santa, bro.

Wow. That's the worst now guys you really want to see that youtube video of someone punching his nutsack into fucking oblivion don't you what a dickhole holy shit so she runs to a nearby house calls 9-1-1 and before she goes to the hospital the police take her to the complex to the apartment to point out where she was and to see if there was any evidence there. And also, too, because she wanted to find her dog. She threw her dog. She's like, my fucking dog is out there.

She's still a nice enough person to give a shit about her dog even in this trauma. I would have forgot I had a fucking dog. She's dying. Yeah. So she ends up finding her dog. Oh, my God. That's the Christmas miracle. The dog was wandering around.

She said even the cops were like, oh, thank God she found it. Oh, they were like high-fiving that she found it. Like, meanwhile, she hasn't even been to the hospital yet. She's covered in blood and God knows what else. Great police work, Johnson. Yeah, great police work. Good job. So Joe's DNA is matched.

You really collared that one. Yeah, you're really – that was – even you thought that was bad. You're covering your face in embarrassment about that one. Yeah, that's what happens. That's what happens when you try to pun, folks. One too many. Jesus. that's what happens that's what happens when you try to pun one too many jesus all right that's like trying to get a that i need a bath that's like trying to get that extra fart out and you just shit your pants that's what happens right there i'm telling you man so the but i bet they said that when they high-fived yeah definitely

so they they ran his dna just regular like he would take from any other felon, ran his DNA through the database and said, oh, my, a hit. Whoa. Whoa, would you look at that? Lucky, lucky. Yeah, police show the lineup to her. She immediately picks Joe out. He was number five on the sheet, by the way, in case you're wondering. Number five like Owen Five.

Like Owen Five, exactly. That's probably why they did it. Let's be wise-ass. Hey, you want to fuck with him a little bit? Let's do it. Let's be wise-ass. Hey, you want to fuck with him a little bit? Let's do it. Let's make another one. Let's put Hackney right next to him, too. The guy who beat his balls off.

So she says to police, that's the face I see every night when I go to sleep. Right there. So she's pretty fucking positive about it. Police told her who he was. You never forget stuff like that. Police told her who he was. And when she found out, she went home and she found out who he was. This is 2008, so you can look people up on the internet.

She looked him up. And then she looked over at her video collection and realized she had Austin fucking Powers in her video collection. And she burned that motherfucker that night. She said she went over to it and destroyed it. Absolutely. She went over to it and she was just blown away that, number one, he was out there like that. That, he didn't go into hiding or anything. Right.

And number two, she said he was in my home. Ugh. He's been in my home for ten years. I've had this movie forever. He's been in my home for ten years. I put this on and I've laughed at that not knowing this was the guy that fucking tortured me. The worst. That's like ten, that's another, I the guy that fucking tortured me. The worst. That's like 10.

That's another. I can't imagine what that has to feel like. Like when somebody wrongs you and then that's amazing. And it's sitting right there and she's watching didn't know. Like that's horrible. God damn it. And then they tell you like they tell you what he what he's been in and then you search it and you find it out for yourself. Man. I can't even imagine. He's an actor and a fighter and she was like what he didn't go and then you search it and you find it out for yourself. Fuck, man.

I can't even imagine. He's an actor and a fighter and she was like, what? He didn't go into hiding? What's going on here? And this is. Not only did he not go into hiding, he like put his face out for the entire world to see. Everyone saw Austin. I mean, $300 million in the theater is some crazy shit.

It's crazy. This is what I have to tell you guys right here. The reason why we love you guys as our audience, this is our Christmas episode. This is the holiday episode. So sick. This is like our, you know, hey, here's a nice story for the holidays. Curl up by the fire with your loved ones, pour a little hot chocolate.

And feel disgusted. Watch a little Dolph Lundgren. So, October 1st, 2008. And relive a fucking horrible experience with us right along with the worst experience of a woman's life and uh well this guy's gonna get his yeah this one this one it's it's what happens to him is suiting and fitting good um so october 1st 2008 he's charged with a variety of variety 17 17 counts of sexual running the gamut of sexual insanity.

He's finally arrested October 7th. He was just charged on the first. Wow. He got six days to marinate on that. Yeah. Well, that's when they matched. The DNA was the first. So they immediately charged him when they matched and then they had to go find him.

They had to work up the warrant. They had to go find him and all that. You know, go tell the prosecutor, hey, we matched the guy. It was 17 counts that if convicted, he faced up to 275 years in jail. Holy shit. Yeah. That would have been the steepest that we've gotten so far. No shit.

275's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah. So he's going to jail. He's got a MySpace profile at this point. This is back in MySpace days, pre-Facebook and Twitter. What a fucking dick. He's got – and his general interests are listed as the Bible and throwing shoes because he has to do that.

Right. And about me is, quote, I'm the founder of Joe Sando. That's the other thing. He says he's – Joe Sando is what he calls his fighting style. Oh, okay. Which is apparently getting the shit kicked out of you every time joe son do joe son do it's it's a it's a it's a korean phrase for punch me in the dick yeah yeah you may remember me from an early ufc event as that asian fellow

who took 10 straight punches to the pills i also played random task in the first austin powers movie so that's his profile. He thinks he's fucking cute and smart here. Now, Orange County District, Deputy District Attorney Eric Scarborough gets the case. Okay. Now, you would want like a hardcore, hardened guy who's been on for 20 years on the beat. Like, I'm going to get this guy. Like, I got all the others.

You know what I mean? It's his first day on the job. It's literally day one. Scarborough is a pretty tough name, though. It is. It is. He said, quote, it was my first day on the job. It's literally day one. Scarborough is a pretty tough name, though. It is. It is. He said, quote, it was my first day. I had been on the job in sexual assault for maybe a half an hour. Oh, my God.

He said he just pulled the first random case. There's a ton of cases. Random. He just pulled a random. Like random task. Random task. I was going there. He pulled a random case off, and it was Sun.

Just happened to be. Wow. And, yeah, so his automatic thing is, okay, we got this guy. Where's the other guy? Because they haven't matched DNA of the other guy at all. Where's the fucking other guy? Yeah. And Joe's saying, I don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, Joe's saying it ain't even me. Even though there's DNA matching into it and her description going, that's the guy and the DNA, he's going, I don't know what you're talking about. So he's not talking, basically. So this is not great. They get the old sketches that they had, the composite sketch, because that's all they have, is that composite sketch. They put it out to the media to see if maybe anybody has it. Some time goes by, nothing happens.

And then the DA's office, Eric Scarborough there, gets an email from a random guy. Yeah. Just an email saying that he doesn't know anything about the case at all, but he went to high school with Joe's son. And the other guy in the poster looks like his buddy that he hung out with every day in high school. Oh, shit. Here's his name if you're interested, basically. I don't know anything about this, but I do know this guy. Yeah.

So his name was Santiago Gaitan. Sounds good. Is his buddy. I'm in but I do know this guy. Yeah. So his name was Santiago Gaitan. Sounds good. It's his buddy. I'm in. Let's talk to him. Yeah. So the police have no DNA for Santiago because since his, since he's been, this happened, he moved away.

He got married. He's had no criminal history. He wasn't a, he wasn't a criminal besides this. Yeah. He's in no criminal history. He's got a family, got a wife and kids. He just moved away and started a life like that, and that shit never happened. It was 18 years before that.

Well, I mean, let's be honest. If your foray into crime happens to be that moment, you're probably scared straight. You're like, I'm never doing that shit ever again. I'm not hanging out with Joe anymore. Right. Fuck Joe. Me and Joe are not buddies anymore. No, I'm busy tonight, dude.

I can't. I don't want to go. Fuck you, Joe. So, yeah yeah he is uh lose my number stop sending me those butthole pics i'm out i'm out of your life butthole pics so they have no dna but they know of this guy and they don't even know if it's the right guy but it sounds good it sounds pretty right seems to match this is right after high school so this would seem right so they find oh they find s Santiago Gaitano, and they stake out his apartment.

Or Gaitan. They stake out his apartment, okay? Within a half hour, you think they're like, she could be here for fucking days. Who knows? Within a half hour, he comes outside carrying a trash bag, about to throw his garbage out. He's in an apartment. He's going to the dumpster. Inside that bag is a lot of shit.

A lot of shit. He's got the garbage bag, and luck would have it, he's drinking a sun-kissed orange soda bottle. A bottle, too. You bet. First of all, that's some trashy shit. Yeah. Sun-kissed orange soda. It's a very Spanish thing to be doing.

I like orange soda. Yeah. I like orange soda sometimes. Right out of the bottle, too. When I was like eight, I really liked it with pizza. It was good when I was a little kid. I was like, orange soda and pizza. Sausage pizza.

No, I don't want any fucking orange soda anymore. You know what I mean? So they watch him do this. He throws the garbage in and then tosses the bottle on top of it, takes his last swig, tosses it in. So he goes inside and the cops are like waiting. They fucking run out of the car to go bag up a bottle. And I think about it too. This is the funny thing here.

Like these guys, they wanted to be cops. Like they probably were thinking like, I'm going to fucking chase people. I'm going to be chasing them down. I'm going to shoot outs with people. It's going to be exciting and I'm going to be, you know, talking hostages out of buildings. No, no, no. You're waiting for some fucking middle management dude to throw away his sun kiss so you can climb

in the dumpster and retrieve it. Take his last swig of freedom sun kiss. You can rob it from him. You're putting a shit bag away, but I don't think in terms of excitement this is what the police had in mind when they signed up for the shit. You don't want to sift through an apartment complex's dog shit bags to get to that. Yeah, to pick Sunkist bottles out of a dumpster. Right. So they get Guy Tan in here.

They take the bottle in. They test it. Big shocker. It matches Guy Tan. Boom. Boom. So he has, like I said, minimal criminal history. He's got a wife, a family, typical guy.

Yeah. Plus rape, I guess. So not so typical. That ain't no typical man. That's not typical. So D.A. Scarborough here, he's preparing for trial for this because he's like, I'm going to fucking secure these guys. Yeah.

When he realizes that the statute of limitations for rape and kidnapping had both expired. What the fuck? He's like, I don't know what to do. Those were the charges. It was all the sexual charges that had to do with rape, the sodomy, the this, the that, the force of hell. What do you do from there? That's it. They're all statute of limitations are up.

It's over. Like, he doesn't know anything about it. So everyone's worried they're going to have to let them go because they have a very limited amount of time here. They can hold them, right? Yeah, because he's got lawyers, too. So he's, you know, he says he just sits down and he's like tries to figure something out. What am I going to do? What am I going to do?

So he opens up the law books, cracks the law books and starts looking for something. And he finds out one thing that he can charge them with that has no statute and fits very well. Attempted murder? Torture. Oh, nice. Torture. Torture has no statute of limitations. Holy shit, really?

Because it carries a possible life sentence. So possible life sentences have no, that's how they, that's the difference. If it's got a life sentence attached to it, it has no statute. So murder has no statute of limitations. Well, like, there's a lot of things that could fall under torture. I got an Indian burn when I was a kid and I was like, you're an asshole, man. That's torture. That was a smart move on his part.

He was like, you sit me down with a jury and tell them that's not torture to do what they did. And it's true. No doubt. He did what they did to her, and he really took the way that they were saying they were going to kill her and counting out the bullets and all that. He's like, that's torture. And jamming a fucking loaded gun into a woman. That's fucked up. All the physical stuff, too. But they meant, like, the mental shit. And jamming a fucking loaded gun into a woman. That's fucked up. All the physical stuff, too.

But they meant like the mental shit. He was trying to build a whole case of torture. Good. So January 2011, now, Guy Tan, his attorneys approached the prosecutors for a deal. He's not stupid. They have DNA. He's like, I'm not going to go to jail forever. Right.

So and also, too, this guy, Christy probably forgot about it. You know what I mean? No, he didn't. He didn't forget about it. But I mean, he didn't think it was going to come. Anything was going to happen. As he was throwing out his trash Christy, probably forgot about it. You know what I mean? No, he didn't. He didn't forget about it, but I mean he didn't think anything was going to happen. As he was throwing out his trash, he wasn't thinking about it. No, that's what I'm saying. He wasn't thinking. He wasn't walking around every day going, when are they going to catch me?

He was like, that happened. Whatever. But if Joe called him that night and was like, dude, remember when we raped that chick? He'd be like, I totally remember that. Totally. That's crazy. Good times. You were nuts in high school.

Merry Christmas. I'm going to go look at some lights. Fuckheads. So the victim, they ask the victim at this point, they go, hey, would you be okay with a plea deal? Because these people tormented you. So they want to say, would you be all right? If you're not okay with that, we'll take this fucker to court too. You betcha.

But if not, we'd like to get him in and clean it up. And so she says, fine, plea him out if you will, because also, too, he wasn't the horrible one. He was horrible, but he wasn't the – she really thought that Son was the most sadistic. She kept saying how sadistic he was. Right. But also, too, if you get him to plea, he's already into the system now, and you got somebody that can testify against that fucking asshole. That's another thing.

So the victim agreed it was okay. So the only thing she had was, it's all right with me as long as he confesses. Yeah. I want him to have to allocute in court. Absolutely. Because in court, that's sometimes you have to say what you did, and sometimes they make deals where you don't. That's like, you know, whatever.

Well, this deal was, you do. You have to say everything. So he does it. I'm into it already. He gives a full description. Really? He tells everything that happened in court. He spills the beans in court.

He told that whole story. He had to. Oh, my God. Either that or he's getting life in prison. So he tells the whole story and also to includes Joe in the whole story, obviously. And so Joe still saying, oh, I don't know what you're talking about. That's two guys, two DNA matches to them. The victim identifying him and his partner, who is also matched by DNA and is definitely scientifically there, both saying he was the guy.

And he's going, I don't know what you're talking about. I was in Austin Powers. What do you mean? That's nasty, you guys. That's nasty. That's not me. That's nasty. That's bad.

Really? That's your fucking, that's your response to that? Jesus Christ. That's bad. Sly Williams' aggressive anal warts were nasty. This isn't nasty. This is anotherarts were nasty. This isn't nasty. This is another level of nasty. This is no good.

So the judge gives Gaetan 17 years, four months in prison. That's what he gets for this. 17 years, four months. That's a plea. Pretty good. That's pretty good. And judged based on the circumstances, I can't imagine he's going to get a lot of early parole opportunities. I can't imagine the parole board's going to go, we've got to get this guy back out on the street.

What he did was fine. Sure. Joe refuses a plea. Really? He wants to go to trial. He thinks he can get out of it? He wants to go to trial with this. What the fuck?

Haven't you seen Law and Order, bro? Dude, that's it. Haven't you seen the first 48? Any of these fucking shows. He wants a trial like a fucking moron is what he wants. So I don't know what he's thinking. DNA, that's pretty much it. I don't know if getting punched in the dickhead can make you retarded, too. Apparently

that's where his brain is. So, yeah. Wow. Victim had to come to court to testify. Oh, that poor girl. She's got to relive the whole goddamn thing again. She said it was horrible, but she said it was also fucking power. Yeah, she knows she was trying to put this fucker in jail.

She said she never would make eye contact with him the whole time. She said, I want to give him that power to be able to do anything, to make a face at me or make him feel like he's in control. And if we're being honest, from the witness stand, his eyes are a little hard to see. Yeah, you don't know who he's looking at to be realistic here. So she does that. She gives detailed testimony. Very disturbing to jurors, to have this woman recounting bit by bit. That four-minute bit, you telling it was enough. Now, imagine in court with detail.

That was, yeah. So most of the jury was crying at the end of her testimony. I can imagine. Yeah. If you're a defendant and the victim goes up and testifies and the jury is sobbing, you're fucked. You're fucked. They want to put that on someone.

You're the one sitting in the chair. They have a scientific match saying you're there. So you're in deep shit at this point. Son does not testify. Which what's he going to say? I wasn't there. Well, why was your DNA there? And why did your partner say you were there?

And why did she identify you? I don't know. Wrong guy. We all look alike. I don't know. Wrong guy. We all look alike. I don't know. During the trial, he would just yell out things like, that's a lie. Shit like that. Like, that's not true.

What? Just yelling shit out in the middle of the trial. You're not allowed to do that, bro. It's not your turn. No, it's not your turn, idiot. The victim, in her testimony, said, quote, for every injury heistically created on my skin, the more he revealed, the more he reveled in the moment. Every time he struck me with his gun, his fist or while kicking me, the more violent he grew. He made me feel like I was being eaten alive when he bit me with no remorse in sight because he bit her, too.

That's another thing. He is charged. This is none of the sexual things. The only thing they can charge him with are conspiracy to commit murder and torture. That's what they charge him with. Now, the jury comes back. Joe is found guilty of torture in less than three hours. Good.

Guilty of torture. Defense attorney Darren Thompson didn't deny the sexual assault. That was his approach to it, going, yeah, the sexual assault's not on the table. Yeah, he raped the fuck out of her. That's what he was saying. That has nothing to do with anything. That's not a good approach to the jury. Look, he raped her, and he beat her, but there's no but after

that. They want that guy in jail, period. Look at her ass, bro. It still has initials on it, you jerk. Unbelievable. But he told the jury that they had no intent to kill her. That was his excuse. They didn told the jury that they had no intent to kill her. That was his excuse. They didn't work. They never were going to kill her.

He said proof of this is that they used fake names and took measures to conceal their identities with the whole, you know, they didn't call each other by their real names, basically. That's like, oh, so he's, you know, clearly they weren't going to kill him. But he kept saying how he was going to kill her. Who knows? Anyway, son is found not guilty of conspiracy to commit murder what that's the one there so that's the one that held the fucking big penalty yeah that's well sort of they both had it they were both deep tortures of yeah you're in deep shit he is with uh but not guilty of conspiracy to commit murder okay because i guess they couldn't prove the jury said well who know that they wouldn't have made to me I just think

that was one of those where they were like, I don't know, that's a little shady, that's a little iffy, but he definitely tortured her. Listen. I would have said guilty. Yeah. I'm going guilty on both. He's counting bullets out. Yeah.

He's asking where the cliffs are after he said he was going to... And the other part is one asks, where's the beach? And then they both fucking ambush her. That's ridiculous. It's pretty well choreographed. They knew what they were doing. Yeah. Now, on the whole charges on the nuns, because people were like, how come he wasn't charged with rape?

And so the DA spokeswoman, Farrah Emani, said, quote, we didn't proceed on the sexual assault charges based on the statute of limitations. So the sexual assault charges were not taken to a jury. The only count he was found guilty of was torture. But based on that count, he still faces a minimum sentence or maximum sentence of 15 years to life. So that's what they want here. Now, sentencing is September 9th, 2011. Let's see here.

Let's get the victim impact statement on this to get his sentence. Oh, God, these are so brutal. This is brutal. Never mind what the judge said. Let's get what she says, OK? And victim impact statement. Victoria says, quote, the post-traumatic stress disorder is with me daily as I have triggers that set me off. I feel debilitating fear come over me and I'm convinced a hand is coming from behind me again.

My emotional scars are intense. My 20s were stripped away from my life as I relearned how to walk, see, hear, and cope with the outside world again. Joseph's son not only cost me my job at my salon, but also my college savings, not to mention the impact it's made on celebrating Christmas year after year. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, no doubt. You, sir, may fuck off. To the tune of?

To the tune of life in prison. Yes. Eat a dick, Joseph. He got fucking life. Atta girl. Life with possibility of parole. Okay. But let's face it on these things, he's son. He got life. He got fucking life. How'd a girl? With possibility of parole. Okay. But let's face it on these things, he's probably not getting paroled anytime soon.

I mean, Manson's up for parole every once in a while. Put it that way. And they send that crazy fuck right back to his cell. They just shoo him away. No, he's going to get out of here. Sometimes he doesn't even show up. That's my favorite part. They shoo him away like a door-to-door salesman.

They're like, no, no, no, we don't want any. Get the fuck out of here. They're like, sir, you have a parole hearing today. No, I got a schwoz to go to the car with my fucking face. Yeah, I got a lot of shit to do. So September 16th, this is September 9th, September 16th, he's handed over to the prison authorities. He's taken to prison.

That is September 16th, okay? October 11th, 2011, the guard comes to his cell to do head count at 5.50 p.m. And guess what? His cellmate's dead. Cellmate's fucking dead. I'm guessing that head doesn't count at 5.50 p.m. And guess what? His cellmate's dead. Cellmate's fucking dead. I'm guessing that head doesn't count as present. No, no, not present. Defy was not present.

Joe is suspected of killing the cellmate, obviously. Surprise, surprise. It's at the Wasco State Prison. The inmate was found, like I said, during the count. The inmate is 50-year-old Thomas Graham, who was in for failing to properly register as a sex offender which you go well christ maybe didn't deserve to die to that then i found out his initial charges i did a little more research he's initially convicted of lewd

and lascivious acts with a child under 14 so you know what good i'm glad he fucking whatever bro you're in for life anyway start killing fucking child molesters i'm happy with that whatever yeah you're a prison dexter yeah this is the first good thing he's ever done in his whole fucking You're in for life anyway. Start killing fucking child molesters. I'm happy with that. Whatever. Yeah. You're a prison Dexter. Yeah. This is the first good thing he's ever done in his whole fucking life is this. It's ridiculous. How do you say Dexter in Asian?

I guess it's Chan. Chan. Yeah. That's it. That's the one. So when the guard arrives, Joe is standing in the front of the cell up toward the front, and he reportedly told the guard, I told you I needed to get out of here. So not even trying. What?

Fuck, man. No, but Son apparently had been attacked several times in prison. I would hope so. He's like a movie star and a UFC guy. And a horrible individual. And a horrible sadistic rapist. So people are after him basically here. And so the attorney is claiming evidence,

saying there's evidence of self-defense here i saw the other guy he was like a scraggly 50 year old guy he was kind of scraggly white dude he wasn't trying to beat up joe's son i guarantee he wasn't fighting no he was in there for two years for failing to register as a sex offender he's not in there like i'm gonna i'm gonna make the world right again he just wanted to do his time two years that's all he was there for and he's got they put him in a cell with a guy that's got life? Yeah. And who's a trained fighter. Smart.

The attorney's also pointing out Joe's mental and social disorders, saying he's got mental health problems and blah, blah, blah. It's like, well, obviously he's got mental health problems. Then why did they put him in prison in a cell with another guy? Stick this guy by himself. Hopefully he is now. September 12, 2013. He just woke up and he is now. Now, September 12th, 2013 here.

He just woke up and he was like that. What do you say? I don't know what happened. That's what he was saying. He's like, I didn't do it. Get out of here. These guys are just dying in here. They're just dying. I don't know what happened. The autopsy revealed he was killed with a series of punches and kicks. That's when his chest was caved in.

You can't do that to yourself. I don't know. Dude just started beating his own ass, caved his chest in and died. He kicked himself in the chest. It was fucking incredible. It was impressive, dude. I'm telling you. I want to know who trained him. That was impressive.

So, yeah, he's charged with murder on the 12th of September. Prosecutors end up, they say they have not ruled out the death penalty for him. Executors end up – they say they have not ruled out the death penalty for him because if you are already in prison for life and you do – and you commit murder, that makes you eligible for the death penalty because there's nothing else they can give you. So that's it. It's the step up from life. It's just death. It's just death. So now he's in jail now.

Thank fuck. This Thomas Graham guy is dead. This Victoria lady is – I feel so bad for her. She's gone through such hell and also too they talked to her little sister who was 12 and like her little sister tried to help her like she took her to the shower to try to clean her off because her parents were like couldn't handle it and so she's like a little sister in one part she says that was the day i grew up and it was like yeah no shit you grew up you grew up super fast young lady the parents of these fucking people not to mention who knows how many other people he did this to that didn't that didn't identify it didn't report it that's what i mean

if he if he found victims who weren't you don't start that that's not your first one no not at all so i mean this is horrible i feel bad for all these people jimmy i feel so bad for all these people. You fuck. You fuck. But not nearly. I remember so many. Not nearly as bad as I feel for Joseph Sun, certified financial planner at Manulife Securities in Edmonton, Alberta. Joseph Sun, CEO of Green Power Electronics Manufacturing in Korea. It gets better. Joseph Sun, senior associate at Duff and Phelps Financial Services in New York City.

He's a Georgetown graduate, this guy, so he's going all Ivy League on us here. Joseph Sun, a securities regulator in Rockville, Maryland. Oh, shit. Who maybe can do some work with the other Joseph Sun, our last Joseph Sun, who is the vice president of Goldman Sachs in New York City. This motherfucker runs the country, Wow. This Joseph son. So we have one Joseph son who is in prison beating up a girl. And we have another guy who's another piece of shit. Yeah, who's running the fucking country, literally buying our government.

There you go. That's our guy. Wow. Unfucking real, right? Which one's worse? Jesus Christ, really. Which is worse? It's hard to decide.

God damn it. Fuck, man. Goldman Sachs is a really shitty organization. They've done a lot of shitty things. They've done a lot of shitty things. They've done a lot of damage. But I don't think they've ruined. They've not gun raped anybody, I don't think. Thankfully.

I don't think they've even just focused on one person to ruin. They just want to ruin all of us together. They just want to turn our pocket, turn us upside down and shake us out for loose change. So September 29th, 2013, Joe pleads not guilty to the murder charge. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. Not me. So, yeah.

Other guy. Now, December of 2014, Sun files an appeal. What? An appeal due to what he claims is a violation of his constitutional rights. Really? In the trial. What's the violation? How about you violated two people's rights?

I'd like to ram his constitutional right up his ass at this point. Through his dickhole. Through his dickhole. Apparently, Judge Francisco Brezno first gave, during the trial for the rape or for the torture, gave permission for both sides to give 30-minute opening statements at trial. Wow. I had to dig deep for this. That's a long fucking opening statement. Yeah.

Well, that's, you know, you're setting up a whole page. That's an episode of Seinfeld, man. Yeah. Jesus. With commercials. Yeah. So Judge Brezzanio then changed his mind based on the claims the defense may have made in their opening because Joe hadn't yet said if he was going to testify.

So he didn't want to let them say a bunch of crazy outlandish shit that they couldn't back up with testimony from Joe because that just – it's whatever. But in a two-state, that's what it is. So he's saying his right to a fair trial was violated. So he's saying his guy didn't get to say his thing. Now, March 2015, a U.S. magistrate judge, Andrew J. Wistrich, agrees that Brezegno was wrong. Wistrich agrees that Brezegno was wrong. He says, quote, prohibiting defense counsel from informing the jury what he expects the evidence to show and what he expects the evidence will not show and to prepare the jury for the nature of the graphic evidence to be introduced went beyond what ground, what sound and considered

discretion required. He said, quote, we therefore conclude the trial court erred in denying defendant the right to make an opening statement prior to the presentation of the prosecutor's case in chief. That's a lot of fucking legal jargon. But. OK. He also calls the error harmless because. He said. That's beautiful.

He also said Briseño after that before, you know, in the beginning, he told the jurors to keep an open mind with the trial, which they say in every trial. But he said that was enough. That's good. That's good. That's as good as a defense opening statement, which it's not. But whatever. Fuck this guy. He just essentially said he said alleged.

So fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. So whatever. I want a judge to say that. Wouldn't that be great? Fuck it. Whatever. It'll work. I want a judge to say that someday. Wouldn't that be great? Eh, fuck it. You know what?

I've taken the charges into consideration, and I've taken your appeal into consideration, and you are correct in your case, and I've thought about it, and the appellate law really states, the case law states this, but fuck it. You know what? You're a dickhole. You get out of here. Fuck you. Back to prison.

Appellate was used in that. That's beautiful. And the appellate, fuck it. Eh, fuck it. Never mind. Say, get back to having appellate, fuck it. Fuck it. Never mind. Get back to having bologna, you fat fuck. He probably has a lot of Scooby-Doo sandwiches. See you last week.

I think that we should make those one day and try them on the air. Let's do it. Yeah. We'll record it. Me choking to death. You'll take a nibble. I'll take a nibble. Then we'll both vomit into the microphone.

That's perfect. I'll take a nibble, then we'll both vomit into the microphone. That sounds good. That's perfect. So May of 2015, U.S. District Court Judge Percy Anderson accepts Wistrich's decision and says that both the conviction and the sentence are upheld officially. Yes. Fuck you, Joe's son. 2015, they're talking about the death penalty.

Basically, the death penalty, this is still going on for the cellmate, Thomas Graham. That was in 2011. We're in 2015 in July, and they decide that they're not going to do the death penalty. They're not going to seek it because in order for them to seek the death penalty, they need the victim to come back and do it again. What? Because they're trying to tell her. It's based on the first time, too.

Oh, they need her again? They need her to come back and relive the whole thing again from the jury. She's already done it. She said, you know what? I'm done. I'm done. She said, I did my part, and I tried, and they're in jail, and I'm good with that. I'm fucking out of this.

She said, as much as I'd love him to get the death penalty, it's not necessary. I burned a DVD. Fuck it. Yeah, I trashed the DVD. I threw it out in the yard. She said the same thing the judge said. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it.

What are you going to do? So, yeah. So the Kern County District Attorney decides not to pursue it. Deputy District Attorney David Wolf says, quote, we're taking it very seriously and I believe the evidence will show he'll be held to answer about the cellmate. He is currently housed at the Salinas Valley State Prison in California. That's still going on. That has not been dismissed or tried. He had hearings in October of this year and September of this year,

and it's still going on. I love it. And there's no clarification on it. We will hit you with an update on it. There will be an update. He's going to be in jail for a long fucking time, so it doesn't matter. It does not fucking matter. Good.

I don't care who he killed, the molester. Fuck them all. Jesus. So that is Joe't matter. It does not fucking matter. Good. I don't care who he killed to molest her. Fuck them all. Jesus. So that is Joe's son. Merry goddamn Christmas, everybody. Fucking happy Hanukkah. Is your stomach turning? Wow.

That was a hard one. How's your turkey digesting? Shit, that was a hard one to, like, look into. You know what I mean? I was like, Jesus, this is brutal. I'm looking at the details going, God, I'm going to write this down? Holy fuck. At time of release, Christmas was two days ago, and I guarantee you still have runny

shits, and they're worse now. Depressed. Depressing, man. This was depressing. This was one of those ones where I literally was very depressed afterwards. Not nearly as depressed as poor Victoria here, but still, I'm not a better person for knowing all this information. Just not. It was ruining me.

I feel uncomfortable. That's a good word. So we have to make a couple announcements here. Before we get to shoutouts, we have a couple very exciting announcements. Very, very cool thing. We have a couple of new shows to tell you about. One with me and Jimmy together, as you

love us, looking into morons more, and then another one we'll tell you about also, too. And then a possible, another one, possibly. It's coming up. We'll talk about this. First of all, before we get to that, we are going to do shout outs. If you would like a shout out, you can do it very easily. You can get on our social media. On Twitter, you can go at Crime and Sports.

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No, we really haven't. We really haven't. I think I bought a Snickers bar once when I was buying some memory cards. I really do. I think I bought a Snickers bar. That's fine with me. Outside of that, we have not bought anything with it. We're really – it's all about that.

It's all for the technology and making this show better because you guys are what matter and we want to make it better for you. We really do. And also, too, keep your iTunes reviews coming. That means the world to us. That helps us move up. It helps us get new sponsors like Blue Apron like you heard from from this week. Yeah. Like you're going to hear everything. By the way, Mack Weldon is going to be delivering to England very soon, to the UK. So UK people that were asking us about that, they are coming to you.

But let's get that out of the way here. We'll do the shout outs in a minute, but let's announce this first. Yes. What do you say? I love it. We are coming out with a new podcast. Yes. Don't worry.

Crime and Sports will still be once a week. Just the same Crime and Sports you've always liked and loved. We'll show up for you. Don't worry. We'll be here. be once a week, just the same Crime and Sports you've always liked and loved. And the show up for you. Or hated or whatever. We'll be here. We're going to do something new also. We are going to do a show, and we're going to call it Small Town Murder. And what we're going to do is we are going to go into little weird unknown cases from around little small towns places.

It is all over the world, too, we're going to do. But if there's a little town, a little backwards ass town, you know, fucked up shady deal. Fucked up weird deal. You know how making a murderer to me, the most interesting part of it, more than the case, more than the DNA, more than everything was the town and the dynamic of this guy knew this guy and they knew the family. So they didn't like that family. And they said this one about this. And then the D.A. did this because he knew this guy and it's all very they're just finger fucking each other like crazy and it's all so weird and shady and we think that's going to be hilarious and my

sister lived in that shithole town that that that making murder is from and it she's she has told me that it's exactly like that i bet her her husband my brother-in-law looks exactly like that. I bet. Her husband, my brother-in-law, looks exactly like that, man. They all are like Asians. Just white hair, white face, white everything. That's exactly right. There are a bunch of white Joe Sons running around up there. It's hilarious. We think that is going to be so interesting. I found some cases that are just wild

and funny and hilarious. It's going to be a lot like this. It's going to be obviously funny as hell. We're going to go up these small towns' asses with these murder cases. Kind of like, remember on A&E City Confidential? Yeah. It's kind of like that. I can't wait.

But with us instead of the fucking guy with the weird voice. Yeah. We can't wait. With plenty of jokes to go around. Also, too, one more podcast. I'm going to be doing a podcast. Well, me and Jimmy have another one in the works besides those two. So don't worry, we're coming out more. But we also have a podcast with myself and Sarah Hunt, who is our social media person. She makes all the funny memes and all the shit

like that. She's hilarious. And we're going to do a podcast about making fun of romantic comedy movies. That's it. She has seen them all and she hates them and she lets us we sit there and make fun of them and yell at them. So this is going to be us taking apart a new different romantic comedy every week fantastic so and not not a live watch or anything like that we're going to go through it kind of like we do here except with a movie run it down and fucking everybody's an asshole trust me it's going to be hilarious that's going to be hilarious that will be coming out uh the beginning of the year and then our other small town murder probably about a week into january we're probably going to try to get the first one out to you guys. So keep an eye on that.

Please spread the word when you do. We're going to put out one of those fucking shitty preview episodes for a minute. The ones that we hate. The ones that we fucking hate. But we're going to say the whole time how stupid it is that we're fucking doing. Right.

And hopefully you guys can get us, you know, we're not assholes. God damn it. We're not going to milk you for everything. No, no, we're going to lambast ourselves just as much as're not going to milk you for everything. No, no.

We're going to lambast ourselves just as much as we'll fucking point out douchebags and idiots. That's what we do. That's what we do. So please support us in our endeavors. And I promise you this, that any show that we do, we will not put any less effort into it than we put into this. It's going to be maximum effort, and we're going to give you the best show humanly possible. Did you just quote Deadpool? I love it. I've never seen that, so I have no fucking idea. He says maximum effort, and we're going to give you the best show humanly possible. Did you just quote Deadpool? I love it.

I've never seen that, so I have no fucking idea. He says maximum effort in front of everything. I don't watch movies. I hate them. That's right. You do. Fucking hate contrived bullshit. Oh, it's 20 minutes. A plot point must be coming, and it's on point.

Perfect. Fucking movies. Movies and... There's two things I don't like anymore is movies and cereal that I'm pissed off at. Movies and cereal. You take out your rage on cereal i do i love cereal why are they fucking with my cereal jimmy i'm not even kidding what are you talking about okay when i was a child yeah there was no blue fruit loops no there is no fucking food in nature that's that color fluorescent blue and don't tell me fucking blueberry because they're purple. Eat shit.

They're fluorescent blue. Everything else, yellow, there's lemons. Green, there's limes. Red, there's cherries. Things that make sense. Oranges aren't. Bullshit. And also, too, what the fuck are you doing adding green ones to Apple Jacks? The yellow ones weren't good enough for all of us?

They all taste the same. Fuck me. I don't care. I don't want the blue ones. Let's talk about our listeners. Let's do shout-outs. They don't matter. Let's do shout-outs. They're who matter. Let's do shout-outs.

What do you say? This week, I got a laundry list of new people that have been commenting and liking and being actually involved in stuff. And you guys are what matters. So Nick White, George at Kampenbauer. Kampenbauer. I don't know what the fuck that is. I think it's his last name.

Anyway, Jimmy Tosland, Mick Chrismar, Keith Purdy, who is Miss Purdy. What was her first name? God damn it. It starts with a J. I forget. Jessica Purdy? It's Jessica Purdy. She's great. That's her husband. She got him listening and now they fucking argue about it.

That's terrific. And listen together. Mahalo Diablo, that was the one that gave us a fun review on iTunes that I enjoyed. OG Rio, Carl Giffen, Jack Forsdyke, Harleen Bergarza, Mark Wood, Brian Smith at BrianS1967 on Twitter, Josh Skora, Kyle Kirby, who I met at a show, at a comedy show, and he's listening with his wife now, Yeah, at a comedy show. Very cool. And he's listening with his wife now.

Malky Boyd, Mark Burns, Mark Simpkins, Kimberly Gall, Matt Waters, Steve Marsh, Kristen Hess, and Patrick O. And the last two, real quickly, are Johnny Ure and the NVI crew in St. Cloud, Minnesota. They – he got his boss listening to it. Yeah, I heard that. And now the whole crew listens, and now they put it on the the loud speaker for the fucking whole office to listen to. That's amazing. They must have no HR department there. And the coolest fucking boss ever. And the coolest boss ever.

That boss is a badass. He's the man. Also, too, a special one, too. We noticed, I just saw on Facebook, that the good Reverend Jonathan Gilliard, I saw he was in the hospital for something. I don't know what he's in the hospital for, but hope you're doing all right, Rev.

Get back on the mend, bro. Yeah, man, we love you, dude. We need you. Hope you're doing well. And the last one is another person who's going through some shit no it's brutal to listen to people that we that listen to us and we like them yeah brandon kerrigan's son is three and a half months old his name's aiden and he has to have a surgery to take some mass out of his chest i don't know much more than that i don't want to reveal too much what's going on.

Jesus, that's a terrible poor guy. He's three and a half months old and he has to go have surgery. Oh, man. It's fucked up. It's all they're rooting for him. Yeah. So keep him in your thoughts or prayers or whatever it is you do. Whatever you fuckers do out there.

Think about little Aiden, though. Whatever you heathens do out there, you lousy bastards. We're pulling for you, little buddy. Kick his ass. We are, man. We are. So thank you guys so much for all that. Thank you for listening.

Thank you for everything. We can't do shit without you. It's been an amazing week. An unbelievable week with interaction. Even over the holiday. Yeah. And we thought, too, maybe, you know what? Everyone else is going on hiatus and doing best of episodes.

Fuck that. Fuck that. We're giving you episodes. You're still going to want to listen to stuff. And you know what? Maybe we'll steal some of their goddamn listeners while they are on hiatus. I like that. I'm in.

Whatever. Lazy fucks. I hope there's some offices out there that can use us. That's right, man. Lazy bastards. I love it. But you offices out there that can use us. That's right, man. Lazy bastards. I love it. But you want to give them your social media, Jimmy? Yeah, at WismanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N, sucks on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

And Jimmy Wisman on Facebook, J-I-M-M-I-E. And I am at JimmyPIsFunny. That's with a Y. Yeah, man. Both the funny and the Jimmy. So you can find me on there. And good luck spelling my last name. Good luck.

Find it. I'm on there somewhere. He's my best friend. I can't fucking spell it. Yeah, nobody spelling my last name. Good luck. Find it. I'm on there somewhere. He's my best friend. I can't fucking spell it. Nobody can spell this goddamn shit. But with that said, please hit us up. We'd like to talk to you guys. We love you so much. The interaction keeps this going. We're doing well. We're in the studio and everything else because of you guys. We can't do it without you.

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