Crime in Sports - #57 - Death Was His Co-Pilot - The Obliviousness of Salt Walther

Episode Date: February 28, 2017

This week, take a peek into the world of a man with no limits to his desire for speed, drugs, and getting arrested. From a background of money, and privilege, he figured out a way to ruin it all, and become an embarrassment to his family, his sport, and anyone with half a molecule of decency. From his near death on the race track, to his guest spot on The Dukes Of Hazzard, to one of his many run ins with the law, he always lived by one bit of wisdom... Never, ever learn from your mistakes. And he mastered that. Survive being a human fireball, always run from the police, and do every drug you can get your hands on with David "Salt" Walther!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: [e-mail] on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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He will not kill me. I'm so excited. He was found dead at a hotel I don't mean to be happy about someone's death but I was afraid of this man so now I'm like sweet fuck it seriously you gotta go back and listen to Ayan Krotoru episode he was a wrestler but don't worry about the wrestling or whatever he was one of the

craziest people we've ever encountered unbelievable he's like a crazy insane biker just to give you a taste of Ayan Krotaru to listen to, him and his friends got kicked out. Him and his biker friends got kicked out of a strip club for having their biker collars on. Well, it wasn't allowed. They kicked him out.

They were so mad. Their logical step next was? Was to blow up the strip club. They went home to their- But they didn't do it. They went to their bomb fridge, as we said, and picked a bomb out and they're like, let's go blow it up. And instead of blowing up the strip club, they blew up the police station nearby and a part of a bank.

Right. So this psychopath gets thrown out of a strip club and there's a police station exploding because of that. Unbelievable. So that's the type of psychopath we're dealing with. So please go back and listen to Ion Crotaru. He's dead, so don't worry about it. Yeah, you can laugh at him all you want.

The other update is that we covered Stanley Wilson a couple weeks ago. How long ago was that? Was that five weeks? A couple months ago. Was it that long ago? Yeah, it was like episode 39, I want to say, something like that. He was like four months ago. Yeah, you're right.

Yeah. My God. So the Stanley Steamer has a boy, Stanley Steamer Jr. Yes, Jr. And he has Jr. behavior to the teeth. He was arrested naked and shot in the belly in the fountain. Bleeding out in an old man's fountain. He was found again.

Naked. Naked, breaking into a house. This guy gets naked and breaks into houses, Stanley Wilson Jr. We're going to have to give him his own episode someday because he got like 20 minutes at the end of the one episode and now he's doing more. Yeah. So look for that. And also.

The other update that I've got. Somebody messaged me on Facebook. His name is Leon Collins and his dad. I hope it's not Leon Collins, Sr. He didn't say, though. Let's hope not. But his dad went to high school with Dexter Manley. My God.

And said that Dexter Manley in high school was a complete dumb shit. Why doesn't that shock me? He was illiterate, for Christ's sake. He got caught ditching school at the pizza place with Leon's dad. And the police approached him. And he was so fucking stupid. They asked him what he was doing there. And he said, ah, just ditching school, you guys.

That's the first thing that came to his mind. You're going to take me back to school. First thing that came to his mind. Just ditching school, guys. Just doing what I'm not supposed to be doing. And then his dad actually helped him sign his declaration for college. Really? Helped him write his name.

Oh, Christ. He even actually told him, go ahead and just draw an X. Fuck it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They saw you do it. It's fine. So awesome.

Dexter Manley, back a few episodes. There was episode 55, I believe. 54. Episode 54, Dexter Manley. So good. Couldn't read the warning signs is the name of it. Such a Dex-tard. He's an ill the name of it. Such a Dex-tard. He's an illiterate.

Yeah, such a Dex-tard. Also, too, outside of sports. This is the best update. This is the best update on a personal level for all you guys that have been with us and sat here through us this whole time. We are going to be performing live, which is, that's cool, but whatever. We're going to be performing the Crime and Sports podcast live at the 2017 South by Southwest Festival. Yay!

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into a race car driver. Oh. But he doesn't have much racing. It's mainly just fuckery. He's a complete jackass.'s david walther oh salt walther has never heard of him salt walther uh he's actually a salt famous guy you've probably seen him the fuck out of his nickname salt okay not as nobody named him all right good good good salt water salt water well there's a reason why he's named salt is because of Saltwater, and we'll get into water here. The fuckery began on November 22nd, 1947 for Mr. Walther here.

He is the son of George Walther II. So his dad's a junior. Okay. Fuckery behavior. And his brother is George Walther III. Oh, my God. So there is junior behavior running rampant through this family, I'm telling you right now. And he learns it from them.

Big time. A very wealthy family he comes from. George Walther Sr. or the second, but he's senior to the third. His father here, the patriarch of the Walther family. That's confusing as shit. He is the owner. He was the owner of the Dayton Steel Foundry. Okay. So, big steel money, basically.

These are people who, you know, would probably have, you know, children working at a, at some sort of big wheel with sparks coming off of it. You know, with dirt all over their faces. And they'd come in and be like, dock him 12 cents paid for peeing. You know what I mean? Something like that. Dock him three hours. He peed.

I saw him. Shit like that. You know, he had to go to that. Doc him three hours. He peed. I saw him. Shit like that. He had to go to the bathroom. No lunch breaks. That's his dad, I picture. Also very, very, very into racing, his dad. Into all sorts of racing. Powerboat racing.

And, of course, car racing. He fielded Indy cars. He had his own team. He fielded Indy cars for the Indy 500 in both 1958 and 1959. So he's got some money. His dad has big money. This isn't like, hey, you had a small business and you had a sporting goods store that didn't have decent. This is steel money. This is like industry

money. Big time shit. You can't just do that in your house. You know what I mean? That's why steel costs so fucking much. You can't just build fucking... You need stuff and flames going on everywhere. You can't just cut angle in your garage. No, that doesn't work much because you can't just build fucking – You need stuff and flames going on everywhere. You can't just cut angle in your garage. No, that doesn't work. So you can't make steel.

So, yeah, he's doing that. Like I said, his brother, George III, which I think is hilarious. That's the other part. Is it like George III sounds like a very, very prestigious guy. It does. Your dad's a fucking iron worker. Well, yeah. Granted, they got money.

He's a magnate. But George III. They got a smelting pot, but still. Salt's brother, George III, doesn't go by George III. He goes by Skip. Oh, Christ. So we got Skip and Salt and the two kids. Old Skip and Salt.

Oh, Jesus. They're so clever. Unreal. His mother. Four-letter words. Yes. Skip and Salt. Skip, I think they're so clever. Unreal. Four-letter words. Yes. Skip and Salt. Skip, I think they actually use two Ps on Skip.

Really? Skip double P. I saw it in all the articles. The worst. We have some information on him we'll have to relay to you. His parents, like we said, George Sr. or the second or whatever you want to say, and his mom, Pat. Pat also came from a wealthy family. She's known as like she drives Ferraris around.

What? And like smokes like she smoked cigarettes and she had like, you know, the cigarette holders. The little plastic thing. But it was a gold one. Oh, Jesus. She had a gold cigarette holder and she drove Ferraris around. Wow.

And she's known to be like just like a crazy kind of aggressive rich lady basically. What town is this in? Dayton, Ohio. Oh, okay. They're all from Dayton, Ohio. All right. This whole family. A shithole. Yeah. They're the kings of Dayton, Ohio. Oh, okay. They're all from Dayton, Ohio. All right. This whole family. A shithole.

Yeah, they're the kings of Dayton. Kings and queens of Dayton. Both the parents loved fast cars. Both the parents liked motorcycles also. What? They used to race places on his and hers Harleys, the mother and father. That's weird. In the early 50s.

That's bizarre. That's very strange. Father is, and mother loves fast cars, loves races, loves all that thing. Father is an adrenaline junkie like the sons are. He needs speed and he needs, you know, all that shit. He needs input. That's bizarre. It's very, very bizarre.

I feel like they fuck in the garage, like rolling all in the oil. You know they do. They're like, it smells like gasoline. Yeah. My cock is hard. It smells like oil in here. My giner's wet. Get over here. And a relationship like that's going to burn hot. It smells like oil in here. My giner's wet. Get over here.

And a relationship like that's going to burn hot. It's going to burn hot. Fuck yeah, it does. And they get divorced in the mid-60s. That's not going to last forever. No. That's not going to last. There's only so many different ways you can fuck somebody.

If you're fucking with oil all over you, that's not going to last forever. It's just too much. It's just too much joy. Too much too soon. Too much too soon, man. I'm telling you. She gets divorced, like I said, mid mid-60s mother remarries a doctor oh she went the other way nice doctor yeah she wants the money but she's done she's done with the pens oil fucking yeah well he's also the father's uh he's he's out there the father he's very aggressive and he's

very like has to dominate everything and i could see her being like all right it's enough that's enough you can win the harley race fine our being like, all right, asshole. It's enough. That's enough. You can win the Harley race. Fine. Our sex life is sponsored by Valvoline. It's enough. Calm the fuck down. That's too much. Too much.

Both Skip and David race powerboats in the 60s. And that's where David got his nickname Salt because he was a powerboat guy in the Salt. Right. So stupid. Why accept that even? So it's obviously not on the Great Lakes then. He's actually racing down the coast though. They go all around.

Yeah. They'll go out to the coast and then they also, there's lakes there that they do the powerboat races in. Because most of these powerboat races, unless they're like the ones like we discussed with Ben Kramer. By the way, this powerboat stuff is just funny because it reminds me of the Ben Kramer episode. Please go back and listen to Ben Kramer, by the way. Smuggling like a motherfucker.

Yeah, it's Murder at the Speed of Smuggling, I believe is the name of the episode. Put it to you this way. The highlight of that episode is him trying to escape from jail via helicopter. So that's the kind of guy we're dealing with. One hand a fucking helicopter. Yeah, he tried to hang off the bottom of a helicopter like an action star. Bruce Willis. And fly out of prison.

Shocker. Spoiler alert. It didn't work. Unsuccessful. So definitely want to get into that. A lot of powerboat racing in that one because that's what he did. But yeah, he's known as a rich kid. Both of them are known as rich kids.

But George, or Skip as we'll say, Skip is not known as like a prick. Skip is known as a nice guy, a conscientious guy, someone who respects his parents or respects people. That's why he changed the name. He wants to try to be a humble, blue-collar, working-class boy. So he's like, just call me Skip. Fuck all that George III shit. Yeah. Well, that's the nickname they gave him anyway because he was on boats.

Somebody else did. So Skipper, like a boat. Skip. That's where it came from. Oh, I got it. And Skip and Salt. Yeah. But Salt was disliked by many people.

Because he's salty. He's salty. No, he's known as like a playboy, rich kid, arrogant fuckhead, basically. He's like a 90210 cast member. Yuck. In a powerboat. Yeah. Pretty much. In the Midwest.

That's the same thing. Yeah, with steel money at his back. Not liked by everybody. Desperately wants to get into car racing. He likes the boats, but he really wants to get into cars. That's his passion, and he gets into it. 1972 is his first Indy 500 race. So he's racing those ones.

He's racing Indy cars. But he also, he races whatever he can get his hands on. Really? He's like mom. Yeah, exactly. Whatever, let's race home and fuck in the oil. So Indy 500, if you don't know what Indy cars are, they're the ones with the open wheels. Right.

And the big wing on the back and it's a single seat with like a cockpit. It looks like an airplane with no wings. Yeah. Like a jet, like a fucking fighter jet with no wings. Yeah, pretty much. And put wheels on it. If you think of like a race car, that's what you'd think of basically. Not what Tom Cruise was driving in Days of Thunder.

Not that one. Different. So he went on to come in last in that first indy 500 i think there was a car problem that's i think there was a it was like a it was a non-finish that'll humble you right up that'll like fuck it i'm done with boats i'm getting right into cars and you're in the last fucking place and a lot of people too were kind of saying like oh he gets to race in their indy 500 because his daddy owns the team and he's a rich kid

and his daddy paid him and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Basically, he didn't earn it. Everybody says he didn't pay his dues. He didn't pay his dues. Well, he got what he deserved then. There's some talent here though because that same year,

there's I guess triple crown of races. I don't know about. It's Indy 500, Pocono and Ontario. Okay. Are the triple crowns. He came in eighth at Pocono and sixth in Ontario that year. Wow. So they said, all right.

People were saying, oh, he's a rich kid. He's got no talent. He can't drive. And then people were like, well, actually, he did this. So he actually is decent. And understand, too, with those cars, it's not just roundy, roundy, roundy. No, no, no. It's fucking left, right, left, right, left, left, right.

It's fucking crazy hairpin turns. Not the Indy 500, though. That's just a circle. Is that a round and round? Yeah, it's a circle, I think. They just drive around in a big circle. I fucking hate racing, so I don't know. I can't watch that shit.

I really want to say that it's lots of twists and turns. I may be wrong. No, that's like street racing. European street racing, they do that. But this Indy shit, I know that they do it that way. I think with that Indy, I'm pretty sure the Indy 500. It's 500 miles in a lap. It's a mild.

Okay. Yeah, it's 500. I think it miles. 500 miles. It's a mile. Okay. Yeah, it's 500. All right. I think it's just like Daytona. That makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Now, there's people out there going, hey, you fucking idiots.

Hey, you idiots. Google. You've got phones, you fuckers. No. Well, I have a stack. I researched everything else, and I didn't think to research. I didn't think to be like, Jimmy's going to ask the dumbest fucking questions. No, it's a circle, because I know the Indy.

We'll get into why I know this in a second here. Oh, yeah, yeah. Go, go. March 12, 1973 is why I know this. We're after that. But this is an interesting thing. Right before the – or May 12, 1973. It's two weeks before the Indy 500.

They're doing practice rounds and shit like that. People are anticipating that someone will break the 200-mile-per-hour mark in trials. Wow. Which had never been done back then. So everybody was excited. Turns out a driver named Art Pollard dies during a practice session. Oh, shit. So puts a black cloud over this Indy 500 immediately, like right away.

He's dead. Johnny Rutherford, who seems to win every year in the 70s from when I look this up, he ends up in the trials hitting 199.071 miles an hour. Oh, just missed it. Just missed it there, Teddy Ruxpin, Rutherford, whatever the hell your name is. I couldn't remember his name for a minute. All that came out of my mouth was Teddy Ruxpin, which is not his name. James is an 80s baby.

I promise you his name is not Teddy Ruxpin. That's awesome. Jesus Christ. So on May 28, 1973 is their first attempt at the Indy 500. It's raining constantly. It rained all weekend. This is on a Monday. It keeps raining.

It's a slick track. They're worried about it. Yeah. People are going almost 200 fucking miles an hour. When it's wet. When it's wet. Not great. I can barely do that at 40 miles an hour.

That's terrifying. It's a little squirrely going around a turn. These guys are like, I'll drop it down to 180 to take that turn. No problem. Granted, I drive a Civic, but that's front wheel drive. You get better traction with front wheel drive. These are rear wheel drive, fucking 1,000 horsepower or better. I mean, they are an inch from the ground and have a wide wheelbase,

but still, they're very scary. Even still, it's terrifying. This race, I didn't know this many people. Went 300,000 people at this race in a time. 300,000! Oh, yeah. NASCAR's like that every fucking weekend. know this many people went 300 000 people at this race in the 300 000 oh yeah there's that nascar's like that every fucking weekend wyoming as a state has like 500 000 and it's huge it's huge it's enormous i love seeing you trying to wrap your head around white trash i don't know never never underestimate race fans they're guess not. They're fucking batshit. They're crazy. They're crazy.

They'll park their fucking motorhome on the infield and just sit there for a week drinking Budweiser and watching cars go round and round. Jesus Christ. It's insane. And there's titties everywhere. It's just, I can't describe it to you. Is it the danger? Do they like the fact that people might die in front of them? Is that what it is? Is that what it is?

It's pretty batshit. I've been to some NASCAR races, and it's fun but it's not it's not my cup of tea i've been to a few and i had fun doing it because i was getting wasted but it wasn't that way that's what the attraction and maybe it's just i just want to drink outside and watch them get dizzy that's i'm not gonna argue i don't know if that's your pleasure go for it there's a lot of sportsmanship in it it is a it is an athletic thing. I will say that because it's fucking hard. If you can drive for 500 miles in a circle driving that much, imagine the white knuckling

that you're doing in that. I do think that's an amazing physical and mental feat to be able to get through that race. You watch the videos of the camera that's in there watching them drive, and their hands are going so fucking crazy. Yeah. It's bizarre. Because if anything happens, they're going to die quickly. And something, let's get into something that happened here in 1973.

Like I said, rain falling all weekend. They didn't know if the first couple laps were going to be under a caution. They didn't know how they were doing it. But halfway through the first lap, they dropped the green flag and everybody goes. Everybody guns it. I mean, it's like everyone trying to get position at that point. Isn't that start crazy? It's worse than rugby.

It's weird, man. It's bizarre. It's super strange. And then they all just go nuts weaving in and out. I'm like, how are they not hitting each other? Well, this particular day, a racer named Steve Krizaloff had engine trouble, and his car slowed down in the front, causing huge oh no it slowed down just as everyone was gunning it yeah because he gunned it and it didn't work and everyone else gunned it

so everyone's swerving to not hit him like that asshole that cuts you off to make a right-hand turn with no turn signal and then yeah you have to stop and everybody's swerving around him that's who this guy is basically but he can't help it the car died died on him. So Walther here, Salt, Salt tries to avoid people and tries to go around on the right side. He guns it around the right side. He's like, I got to get around this shit. Take it easy, cold trickle. People are swerving all over the place, right? So he tries to go around just as, like I said, other racers are swerving to avoid the car that's slowed down.

So it's very dangerous. Walther ends up touching wheels. Uh-oh. Which doesn't seem like a big deal. Oh, that's a big deal. It's a huge deal, apparently. Touches wheels with a racer named Jerry Grant. What happens next is the craziest visual thing I've ever seen in a sporting event in my fucking life.

We will put it on our social media, at Crime and Sports and all the major outlets there. It's insane. Okay, let's explain this here. Wow. He touches tires and is immediately catapulted over the wall. Awesome. Whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's the wall and then there's the big fence.

And then there's spectators. He is shot over the wall into the fence. Okay. Takes down the fence. Wow. Takes down a big hunk of the fence that he's hit. As he hits the fence and tears it down, it snaps the front of his car off. Oh, shit.

The whole nose up to the cockpit. Yeah. So you can see his legs. Oh, fuck. His legs are exposed as the car is in the air and has it snapped off on the wall and fence. His legs are exposed. And at that point, it broke open the fuel tanks also because at that point the fuel tanks were right up by the driver

for some fucking reason. I don't know who thought that was a good idea. Where do you put that? How about right by the driver in case they crash? We don't really want to get them burned up good. Put the flammable shit right up there next to him. Yeah, so okay. So right now he has, try to picture this, you see a race, there's a wall and a fence and he's hit it and he's shot

up over the wall into the fence, taking a piece of the fence down, which has taken the front end of his car off. Okay. That's simple. Fuel, as the nose broke off on the fence, fuel sprays out all the way to the first few rows of fans in the grandstands, burning the shit out of people, which is not great. It's on fire? That's the fuel burned them.

Okay. It's all hot. It's all ethanol or methanol. It's on fire? That's the fuel burn them. It's all hot. Ethanol or methanol. It's very hot shit. Burns these people. Ethanol. Ethanol. I don't know what the fuck they're putting in these cars.

That sounds like some nasty drugs. I don't know what they're doing. Give me some ethanol, man. Cook it up. Come on, man. I need it. I need it. So yeah, ethanol they do.

So anyway, as the car crashes back to the track, it lands back on the track and spins, does a complete spin out like a sprinkler. And it's also like a sprinkler because it is spraying fuel that is on fire all over the track like a sprinkler as it turns. Like a badass, like a firework. Like a firework. It's exactly what it's like. It's like a jumping jack, basically.

But shooting out flaming gasoline. Holy shit. That's like a firework. Like a firework. It's exactly what it's like. It's like a jumping jack, basically. But shooting out flaming gasoline. Holy shit. Everyone around him can't see anything because there's a fireball takes up the whole track. His car's a fireball. He is engulfed in flames. People are running, trying not to run into him. And they're hitting each other.

There's cars just everywhere. Guys going to the side. It's fucking insane. And at this point, he's not a criminal. So we feel bad. We feel bad for this guy. He's first of all, to his legs are exposed to all this. I mean, this is bad. And as it's crashing to people are hitting him, his car spinning.

Oh, my God. The whole thing. It's fucking insane. So he's igniting this huge fireball with spraying fuel. Yeah. Everyone's can't get around. It's a huge scene. You can see drivers getting out of their car, running away, patting themselves because they

thought they were on fire. Because also, too, the flame burns clear for a while on this. So there's the giant flame, and that burns that. And then the clear flame burns underneath it. So these guys might have been on fire. They're patting themselves down. They have fire retardant suits on, but still not to this level. It's not going to work.

So anyway, they're doing that. Salt's car finally stops and you can see half of him sticking out of the front of it. You can see his legs sticking out. All the crews rush in. The scene is fucking bedlam. I mean, the race is shut. It's bedlam. First of all, there's cars spun out, tires all over the place, a smoke cloud like you've never seen, like a building burned down, and just people running all over the place, fire extinguishers.

It's crazy. They go over the salt. He's burning in the car because it's burning clear as they're trying to get him out of the car, which takes a couple minutes. His car is fucked up. I don't know if back then they had the easy whatever. So, yeah, it's insane. They rush in. They take him away.

Luckily, the fuel had spread out and dispersed. Nice. So it didn't just stay on him and burn the whole time. So he lost most of the fuel. I've never seen a sprinkler of fire before, though. It was nuts to watch. Thank God for that sprinkler, though, because otherwise it just splashes all over him. Yeah, totally. And then he's

in trouble. Salt ends up, as you can imagine, he's severely injured out of this. He is burned over 40% of his body. You know how bad that is? That's a lot. Dude, that's a lot. He's like fucking Freddy Krueger, basically, in the body. And burns are terrible. They're terrible. He's in critical condition in the hospital.

In addition to his burns, he has severe, severe injuries to his hands an injury that you can relate to with your half a finger with your stub several fingers on the left hand had to be partially amputated so he has several stumpy fingers on his hand

and for the rest of his life you only have one he's got several and for the rest of his life and this will come up later in a crime he wears a black glove on that hand at all times to not show. Because that's apparently pretty gross. But here's the thing about wearing a glove when you've got a missing finger. You either have to lop those off and then stitch the top so that it fits properly.

Because they don't make one for your fucking clock. Or else you point and it's going another direction and it just doesn't look right at all. So I wear them for like yard work and stuff. And I've got one. My ring finger on my left hand is the one that's fucked up and the top, the tippy top of every one of my gloves, not even, it's just like a gnarled tree branch.

It can't decide which direction to go. It doesn't want to go forward or back or left or right. It just goes all four directions and it's fucking ridiculous. In addition to that, the bones in his right hand were crushed. want to go forward or back or left or right. It just goes all four directions. That's amazing. And it's fucking ridiculous. That's so fucked up. In addition to that, the bones in his right hand were crushed. Eventually, the bones healed at strange angles. It fucked up his right hand completely.

He spends two and a half months in a burn center before he's even in the regular hospital. Two and a half months in a burn center getting untold skin grafts and everything. And I know. The worst part about burns is that when it burns your skin off, you can just start bleeding out of nowhere. Oh, yeah, yeah. It just pushes through your fucking whatever's left. I know a guy who had pretty much the exact same injury.

He worked in a glass shop and was denatured alcohol. God, Jesus. And he didn't know he was on fire. Oh, fuck. He was burned from like the waist down, pretty much destroyed. He had to get his whole legs. You know, he couldn't go out in the sun for like five years and everything. Oh, fuck. And he was burned from like the waist down pretty much destroyed. He had to get his whole legs, you know, he couldn't go out in the sun for like five years and everything. He almost died. He really almost died. It was a miracle he lived.

And then he's got to wear sleeves on his legs. He had to wear those sleeves. It was like Lycra shit. He had to wear those tights for a long time. It was a mess. I mean, I know this injury is horrible. It was terrible. Oh, and it took him, you know, years to recover from it fully. Just to give you guys what happened to me. I found an artillery simulator when I was a kid and pulled the actuator out of it and it exploded in my hand. Now, that sounds terrible, and it blew up my hand.

It collapsed my hand, and it took my finger. It took the side of my pinky. It blew my thumb off. They stitched it back on. But that is not nearly as bad as what it smells like. The smell of burnt flesh is – when they talk about that in wars and stuff, don't even think you can comprehend what that smells like. You know what? It is the worst thing.

You know how bad burning hair smells like? That's like 2%. Not even close. It's like 2%. Not even close. That's the trailer that comes off of it. The cherry on top. You pray for that part of it.

You can't wait until you can smell that again. Anyway, go on. Salt ends up having over 100 surgeries on his hands to get his hands right again. And like I said, tons and tons of skin grafts. Now, as you can imagine, this is an extremely painful process, all of this. Fuck yeah. And it's for months. He's in the hospital for six months.

So all of these surgeries, all of these skin skin grafts just the pain of that much burning yeah they had him pumped on morphine like a bastard which you can you can imagine right but that's gonna give you the problem is he ends up liking his pain killers and the painkiller that is his painkiller of choice he doesn't even like get into like you know you'd imagine maybe like it in or percocet. No, Dilaudid. Holy shit. Dilaudid. That stuff's amazing. Okay. Dilaudid.

I've only had it once in my life. I had my appendix taken out. Listen, guys, I'm a fucking disaster. Yeah, you are. Physically, you're a mess. I had it once and it was- You're short too. I don't know if you noticed.

Sorry. I had it once and it was before they were going to take me up to have the emergency surgery done. I was in horrible pain because my appendix had already burst. They didn't know that. But they gave it to me to make me comfortable. And as soon as they put that shit in, bro, it takes no time at all. And you're just like, fuck it.

I'll just go home. Fuck the appendix. I'm fine. It's an opioid derivative of morphine. Fuck yes. If you don't know what it is. It's amazing. The reason why it became popular is it's much more water-soluble than anything else,

so it can be taken with just a small amount of water and it goes in there. It's basically, if you've watched Deadwood, again, let's go back to Deadwood, the stuff that the main woman there, what's her name? Don't look at me. Mrs. Garrett there who owns the bank and all that. The stuff that she's taking that she's hooked, that's what Dilaudid is. She's just drinking it. This is what society women used to just take because they were bored.

Their favorite. Yeah, they'd say they had headaches and they'd get that as a thing. It's from the hop. They were fucking bored. And they just literally, it was, you know, if you were in the 1880s and you were bored, your doctor would give you some Dilaudid and you were a junkie. So good. So there was tons of women junkies out there.

And also, it's what they were after in Drugstore Cowboy, the movie with Matt Dillon. Is that what they were getting? Matt Dillon. That was the apex. That was like, we got all this shit, and then we got the Dilaudid. All right. Which is like, that's the treasure. Fuck yeah.

Everything else, who gives a fuck? The Dilaudid, we have to figure out how to ration out. Yeah, it's one of those things. So that's where we're on there. Now, we have it in their own words. On his injured hand. Is that stuff addictive we're on there. Now, we have it in their own words. Ron has injured hands. Is that stuff addictive? It's got to be, right?

It's the most. It's heroin. It's heroin. And it's most, like, it's heroin in, like, its most aggressive form, basically. It's as strong as it comes. It's what junkies are like, if I could get that shit, I'll be good for a while. I'll bet if I had it now, it wouldn't be near as good as it was that night because that's what they do with heroin. You're chasing the dragon.

You're chasing that first high. Yeah, probably. And if that shit that I got in the hospital is what heroin does, I understand it now. You understand it? I fucking get it. You understand half of these cases we've done? It's so amazing. Half of these criminal athletes?

Coke I don't get, but that shit I get. Yeah, that's people that I would assume if you have any pain, and if you have a hundred surgeries and skin grafts he's got pain yeah so i mean i get him going yeah i can use some comfort i can use a little comfort we have it in their own words on their on his injured hand here he says in their own words quote i never took a drug in my life until i had the wreck it was crushed i can straighten them if i work real hard at it they'll straighten but the doctors with the tendons said quote i can straighten them if i work real hard at it they'll straighten but the doctors with the tendons said quote we can make them where you can drive a race car again because because the doctor he talks like a fucking retard because the doctor hand to operation this

hand that's that's the quote that's not even had like every one of his quotes are like you have to figure out what he's talking about run-on sentences he's just one big run-on sentence he's probably got some brain damage that is probably undiagnosed possibly well to be to do the shit that he did and to be this kind of junkie for all his shit i feel like he had brain damage to begin with like to be like i'm gonna drive the power boats they were driving we got to explain this to get into this guy's character he's driving power boats in the unlimited class that's what his father owns the team and his father's friend yeah unlimited class there's different classes of racing which are this big of an engine that big of an engine unlimited is like literally get a

fucking airplane make it float and fucking drive as fast as you can. And if you die, you die. Basically, in these races, every other race, someone's dying. That's what it is. Remember we did with Ben Kramer. It's crazy. Every time we did a race, like Ben Kramer won this race. Oh, and this guy died in that race. It's just someone's going to die.

And if you've ever seen a powerboat wreck, it's so fucking scary. It's blown off in a confetti. It's just, that's it. It's just a poof. Yeah, it's gone. And everything's gone. These things are driving 150 miles an hour. He was going, I'm a water.

Across choppy ash. Barely touching. Just tink, tink, tink. And anything goes wrong, you flip and explode and you're dead. Done deal. That's it. You're dead. It's fucking nuts.

So that's the type of psycho we're dealing with. So August 18th, and that's fun. Yeah. That's a blast to him. That's a fucking, that's a blast that's a fucking that's a saturday wow august 18th 1973 day uh salt is finally released from the hospital so this is from may so he's it's a long time to be in the hospital yeah i mean just to recover and get all the search because they have to keep doing surgeries also now january 15, 1974 is Salt's return to driving.

Wow. Already. Yeah. Basically, he had the doctors. Four months after he gets out of the hospital, he's back behind the fucking wheel. Back behind the wheel. That's crazy. Not just back doing everyday things.

Not being a crew chief. Driving 200 miles an hour. Oh, my God. They basically made it so he can grip a steering wheel. You know what they did? The doctors specially stood his hands. I can't remember if they duct taped his fucking hands to steering wheel. You know what they did? The doctors specially stuck his hands. I can't remember if they

duct taped his fucking hands to that wheel. Maybe. No, no, no. He has an iron grip. Really? That's the thing. Some waiter in a later

article said like, oh, wow, I didn't know that. I didn't know your fingers were blown off or whatever. And he's like, I can still grip though.

And he like gripped the guy's arm. Wow. You feel that? I was like, holy shit. Yeah, you do. Like apparently he can grip.

They made it so he could grip a steering wheel. So he's like the rookie of the year where he broke his arm and he was able to throw like 300 miles an hour? I feel like the doctors were sitting there like, let's just make his hands grip a steering wheel. Fuck it. Let's make him RoboCop. Let's just make a weird thing.

You know what? I'm going to put a tail on him. I just thought of it. I don't know. Who knows? Let's just try it. Who knows? I mean, the hands thing might work. If not, he's got a tail.

It's a conversation starter, if nothing else. So awesome. Make him operate the gear shifter with the tail. Let's do it. Fuck it. Let's go. Fire it up. His hands don't work, right? So, January 15th, like I said, 1974, returns to driving at the Ontario Motor

Speedway. He says the car felt good, and he felt good. At Ontario, one of the Triple Crowns. Yeah, one of the Triple Crowns. One of the big ones. He jumps right into it. Fuck. Drove an average of 185.1 miles an hour in this race,

so he's not fucking scared. Sans fingers. Sans fingers. That's incredible. Not scared. I mean, you'd think he would be just unsure of the grip he would have because I'm sure that there is nerve damage, too, and he probably can't feel a lot.

So you'd think he'd be like, I'm going to take it easy this race so i know if i can feel shit because if i can't i'm gonna crash into a wall and die how many times have you like held on to something and then like almost let go and then those top joints were the only ones that held it in yeah like that's the ones he's missing he's missing those ones that you rely on they just made his made his hands into steering wheel gripping claws basically he's he's like a bird now that's just up on a power line, just gripping it for life. That's awesome. Unreal.

So, yeah, there's a big, this article was all about how, it was in the Victoria Advocate, January 15, 1974, all about how he doesn't give a shit, basically. The car's good. He feels good. He's going to drive. This is what he does. He doesn't even have ever thought about it twice, which, you know, I was interested in the article, but not as interested as I was in the amazing sales, Jimmy.

The sales. So good. So if you are in January 15, 1974, and you are in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, you need to get down to Kmart. I'm going to tell you right now, because they have five-inch stereo speakers, regular 688, only $4 each. Five-inchers, guys. Get on there. You can get a front-end alignment, only $6.

Kmart. $6. They had an auto center and everything back then. That was when Kmart was like a legitimate store. You can get an alignment for $6. You know what it is now? It's like $180. $6.

That's unbelievable. That's all. Also, two Firestone steel radial tires, four for only $129. That's a deal. Which is insanely cheap. You can't get one tire for $129. And also, too, while you're at Kmart, you're having your front end realigned, you're getting your stereo

speakers put in, you're getting your new tires put on, head over near there to Stimson Furniture over at 1008 North Cameron. Their phone number is 573-39127. Don't know the area code, and they're probably not in business because this was 40 years ago. But just in case you're in 1974, they have a four-piece master bedroom set, including an armoire and mirror. How about that?

For only $298. That's a fucking steal. That's a deal, guys. Kmart doesn't even have it that cheap. They don't even have it that cheap. So you can get, for all of this, $298, $120. I mean, basically, for less than $500, you could get your whole car fixed and a new bedroom set back then and come home from Kmart with all this shit. Incredible.

That's hysterical. That's my favorite. I guarantee the section of the store he's not visiting is the fucking glove section. No, no. He's like, hmm, I don't know about those. Can I get a small and a medium? Do they come different sizes? I need one small, one medium.

Can I get a kid's glove for the left? I have to buy two pairs? Fuck. Doesn't everyone have mismatched hands? It's like somebody that has a short foot and a long foot. You've got to buy two fucking shoes, two pairs. That's what it is. Yeah.

Now, June 1974, we're at the Miami Marine Stadium. This is in Miami. It's Skip Walther, his brother, Skipster here, George III, is racing a Thunderboat during a trial run.

This is the unlimited class. He's going 150 miles an hour like a psychopath. He is a replacement driver or whatever you would call a boat person. Replacement. Scab.

Captain. I don't know what the fuck he's called. He's a replacement. Scurvy knave. I don't know what the fuck he's called. He's a replacement. Fucking scurvy knave. Scurvy knave. He's a replacement, Skip, for team owner Jim McCormick, who during the qualifying was thrown from the boat and injured severely.

So he needed 300 stitches to his legs for lacerations. I'll drive. Fuck it. I'll get right on in there. This seems safe, right? Unreal. So Walther was, I guess you'd say boating, like I said, driving. He's boating at 140 to 150 miles an hour. Picture this insanity. That's insane on the water.

Holy shit. I want nothing to do with that. You don't have tires. I've done 40 across the lake. It's scary. And I was so scared. It's so scary. Well, in a car you have tires.

I don't want to go 150 miles an hour in a car. It's meant to do that. As you go, the gravity makes you stick to the ground more and it all works out. This is against nature and God and science and any other thing that's possible. There's just too many variables. You're not on anything.

You're just floating barely. Gravity is pulling you to the water, and your motor is pushing you the fuck out of it. Fuck you, gravity. No, I don't think so. I'm good. So he's driving this. When all of a sudden his boat, this is from a referee that saw it, his boat dips to the right and then started bouncing back to the left and right before spinning and rolling into the infield, which is the part of the water they don't use, like the middle of the track and racing.

And it was called, quote, a sudden failure of the rudder attachment structure. Oh, Jesus. I don't know what the fuck that is, but I tried hard to find out why this happened. I'm guessing it's under the boat. That's what I came up with. I got deep into like a boat racing message board about trying to figure out what that was. I don't fucking know. I don't want in there.

Patreon.com slash crime and sports for my troubles here, please. So anyway, Skip is rushed to Jackson Memorial Hospital, obviously. His wife, Sandy, was in attendance and watched this, which is insane that your wife had to see this. So she goes with him to the hospital where he has skull fractures, lacerations, and a severed right arm. Oh, my. What? He lost his arm?

Arm gone, skull fractures, and he's cut to shit. Holy fuck. Don't race boats at 150 miles an hour, please. So now both boys have been in accidents. Well, he's pronounced dead at the hospital. Oh, shit. Skip's dead. George III is no more at this point.

Wow. So, yeah, he's dead at the hospital. I mean, he Skip's dead. George III is no more at this point. Wow. So, yeah, he's dead at the hospital. I mean, he had a severed right arm, skull fracture, bleeding out. His brain was turned to pudding. We got a mess here. It's a fucking disaster. That's a bad omen. He shouldn't have been driving that dude's boat. That's the other thing. Yeah, that guy crashed. He's like, you want to get in this monstrosity that almost killed me?

Here, hop in. Yeah, sure. No problem. Somebody doesn't want that boat to survive. No. Somebody doesn't want this family something to survive here. Now, on his brother's death, we have an in their own words here. He says, on his brother's death, in their own words, quote, at least he died doing what he wanted to do. That's not the response I would give. What, losing his arm? That's what he wanted to do?

That's what he died doing. Yeah, he really wanted less skull. He thought his skull was really rigid. It's just he wanted his brain to be able to do what it wanted. If he didn't die fucking, he didn't die doing what he wanted to do. No, no.

Back into this, back into their own words. There were a lot of other drivers who have been hurt pretty bad if you're a race car driver you know you can get hurt you have to accept that i have no death wish it's like you're one of these people you almost died you were on fire are you kidding me you're a fucking idiot he died doing what he wanted to do died doing what he wanted to do no he didn't like okay he died racing he wanted to win he didn't die winning i think he wanted to do. No, he didn't. Like, okay. He died racing. He wanted to win.

He didn't die winning. I don't think he wanted to end up with his arm floating. He died fucking chumming his arm, you idiot. That's what he died doing. So you'd think this would make the family pretty. He died being chummed. He died rolling a boat. Well, it flipped and rolled and he was thrown.

That's how he died. It's terrible yeah awful what an asshole this and so you would think this would maybe turn the family off to boat racing you know what i mean like they just saw their whatever nope that year same year same summer year same goddamn season uh the dayton at the dayton hydroglo boat races, which is an unlimited class race, Salt races. Salt gets in the boat. Why? And he races on his dad's boat.

His dad's still putting boats out and saying, I want to get another one of my kids in there. Yeah. Let's see if we can kill this one. Jesus, God, why are they doing this? They're like, well, we know he's pretty, you know, he's a fire retardant. He didn't die from that, so why not? Let's give him a shot. He comes in third in the race.

Well, that's good. Good for him. So, I mean, he's just a psychopath basically. Yeah, he's just stupid. No thought to I don't want to get further injured. It doesn't care. It doesn't matter. Now, 1975 Indy 500, he's right back in there.

He starts the race in the ninth position, which is a good start, and has mechanical trouble. He has a lot of mechanical troubles in the early years. Number 72, he finished at last, mechanical troubles. There's mechanical troubles, and his car is sidelined after two laps. Okay. Two laps in, he's got problems, okay? That's brutal. And we're going to get to why that is, why he keeps having mechanical problems.

Uh-oh. And he goes, oh, man, he's got a great, he's got a tirade. Really? It's like J.R. Ryder's tir a great, he's got a tirade. Really? It's like J.R. Ryder's tirade about, that's why I came to this motherfucker. It's that. It's that tirade. Everybody laughing while we're losing.

Except in a 70s race car version of it. It's amazing with no cursing because he's on television. Now, 1975, he also starts racing NASCAR. He's like, that's not enough. I do two dangerous things. I need to add a third. Everything that is competitive racing, I'm doing it. I'm doing it pretty much. He's not that great at NASCAR, by the way.

He has four NASCAR races, and one of them he pretty much almost kills half the field making a stupid move. We'll talk about it in a second. NASCAR is not – back then, too, because that's when it was starting. Yeah. I mean, it started long before, but it was just getting big. Yeah, but it was gaining national notoriety. Richard Petty was racing. All that shit was going on.

That's an acquired... You've got to really learn that one. That's a skill. That's a tough one. It's a skill. That's a really hard one to do. The guys that were starting then were the fucking guys that were just coming out of the moonshining stuff. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Those are the runners. Those people know what the You know what I mean? Those are the runners. Those people know what the fuck they're doing. The kids are the runners. Right. That's the thing. I feel like their parents gave them a race team like Walther did here. They all ran cars that ran on the shit.

You know what I mean? Exactly. And this fucking idiot coming off a boat and he's going to fucking just compete. Yeah, boat and open wheel shit. He's going to compete with Richard Petty. Boat killed my brother. Right. Indy car pretty much almost killed me. Let's see what these NASCAR cars can do. I'm missing fingers. I'm going against Richard Petty? Boat killed my brother. Right. Indy car pretty much almost killed me.

Right. Let's see what these NASCAR cars can do. I'm missing fingers. I'm going against Richard Petty. Let's do this. Yeah, well, let's rock it out. So 1976, the Indy 500. It's May 30th, 1976.

Salt finishes ninth in that race, which is a great finish. That's awesome. That's great. It's his best Indy finish ever. So that tells you that it didn't – the success. That's his career. That's his career right there. Now 1977 at the Daytona 500 doing NASCAR is when Salt veers in front of the leader and sends them both into a wall causing a massive accident.

Wow. And fucking up tons of cars. Lucky that wasn't Tony Stewart. Tony would get out of the car and beat the shit out of him or just run him over. I think this guy was severely injured. So I don't think he could get out and beat the shit out of him. I think he was driven into a wall at 200 miles an hour and was not in good shape. So that's the thing there.

This is Salt's last NASCAR race. I would hope so. I feel like they sat him down and said, look, buddy. Okay. You have Indy street cred. Like Indy racing. Street cred, you almost burned to death. We'll give you that one.

You, no. You've been in four races and you've almost killed everyone involved in the sport already. Stop. I see him doing it the way Piazza was talking to people. Do me a favor, buddy. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. No more driving.

No more driving NASCAR. No more NASCAR. NASCAR. What do you say to that? Do it there, buddy. Mass car. So anyway, 1972 through 1978. Yeah.

We're going to talk about some of the mechanical things here, because this is fucking funny and interesting. Okay. He was the driver for his father's best friend's race team. It was a guy named Jerry O'Connell. Okay. That's not the fat kid from Stand By Me. Okay.

I think it's the same name. I just saw his face. He popped up looking all stupid. He's hilarious. Dumb shit romantic comedies now. Bastard. So starting in 72, they hire a mechanic named Tony Smith. Now, how often do you know about auto racing mechanics from the 70s individually?

We don't know a lot. No. That means something's coming up. I had to find this one this is okay so smith had a reputation yeah for uh having equipment failure in cars that he built or maintained that was like a thing that smith was his reputation smith and he had a really really hard time getting and keeping jobs in racing nobody would hire him when they did they'd fire him quickly because he sucked at his job. Until O'Connell hired him and keeps him on from 72 on. I wonder why. Don't know.

I don't know if he's a Coke dealer or what. Salt hated this guy. Hated his work. Hated the cars because we've seen three other Indy 500s where his car had mechanical failures. And this is all this guy working on the car. And that's his dick. So he hates him. Yeah, he hates this Smith guy.

So Walther, in 1978, the Indy 500, he qualifies for the top 25 position in the race, which he's happy with. He runs 198 at qualifying, 198 miles an hour. Jesus. So he's flying. He loves the car. Yeah. Loves the car. Thinks it's perfect. 198.

He loves it. Perfect. Great. They said, do you think you can win this race? And he said, this car can win this race. This one can. This is the one that can do it. He said it was just as good as Alunzer Sr.'s car,

as good as the best car on the track. So the night before the race, the mechanic, Tommy Smith, decides to replace a gear in the car. Why do you do that? Out of the blue. That's what he didn't know. What an asshole. Now, by replacing this, this means that you don't get your pole position you don't get your your position that

you earned in qualifying so he has to start dead last at 33 it's fucked up they just he got a phone call salt gets a phone call saying hey uh yeah you're now you're supposed to start in the top 25 tomorrow yeah tommy you're going ahead and replaced a gear so you're in last and he was fucking livid i'd kill tomm. He was rip-roaring. He's like, I have almost burned to death for this. Do you understand? God damn it. So he's furious, but he still thought that it was the best car he'd ever driven and said

that, you know what? I could still win the race. I'll come from behind. Yeah, whatever. I don't like the positioning, but whatever you're going to do. So Saul starts running well in the race. He starts from last place, pushes his way up from the back. All of a sudden, we're in lap 24.

He's in 10th place. So he's gone from 33 to 10th. That's great. Terrific in the course of 24 laps. So he's aggressive, and his car, like we've said, is great, right? Yeah. Out of nowhere, the car slows down. What's going on?

The car won't work. The car slows down. Walther knew what it was. Salt knew it was a broken gear familiar right fucking tommy you dick so salt is uh apparently the uh i don't have it or i didn't get to hear it but apparently from what everybody said the audio over because they have radio radios to their pit apparently as he drove over to the crew in the garage area it was he didn't say one non-expletive apparently.

He was just like, I'll kill everybody. Fuck these motherfuckers. He was going crazy. Like a lunatic in traffic, basically. He's losing his mind. That's part of the charm of NASCAR, too, now, is that you can get headsets, and you can tune to the different stations

and listen to each driver. That's fascinating as fuck, too. That's kind of fascinating, yeah. You can hear him say some pretty... When it's on TV, you see it, and they sometimes cut into people's feeds, and you're like, oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, that's kind of cool. It's pretty fun.

That's like if you heard a coach in football calling in the play. You're like, okay, that's how they do it. It's interesting. So, Walther, right after he goes and he puts the car in the garage, he gets interviewed on television right then. Right now. He's in a rage. I mean, he looks like a wrestler cutting a promo on somebody like i don't believe the son of a bit like his eyes his hair is crazy because he had the helmet on

like he's like i bet she's ready to kill somebody he's got black shit all over his face from racing mess and we have the longest in their own words ever and it's basically one sentence it's fucking it's a tirade it It is a tirade. Top notch. And here we go. This is on Tommy Smith on television being interviewed before the cameras in their own words. Quote, I've always taken all the excuses and the blame for it. And I've covered for all my chief mechanics.

But if anyone, if anyone's for this shit, it's Tommy Smith. I ran 198 miles an hour for qualifying. One of the best times ever. And Tommy changes the gear the night before the race? Only an idiot would do that. And either he goes or I go to another team. Tommy should have been let go, but I'm not going to make any more excuses. Tommy isn't working on any of my cars anymore.

He's gone after this race. I wouldn't call it a firing. I begged the guy. I begged him. I've put up with him since 1972, and he won't listen. You don't make changes the night before a race. You just don't. I've talked with six top-level drivers, and they don't do it. But fucking Tommy does. End quote.

That's awesome. That's on television. That's great. It's like, this son of a bitch, bastard, motherfucker. God damn. He's just like, can you believe this? Meanwhile, no one knows who Tommy Smith is. Right.

And people are like, who's this Tommy Smith asshole sitting at home? Who the hell is this guy? He must be a real asshole. That Tommy's a real dick. So he gets to the, by the time Salt reaches the garage, Tommy has already left. I would hope so. He's literally already left the speedway. He's gone.

He's in his car driving home. Literally the second that car slowed down, he said, okay, packing up. I gotta go. Gotta go. All right then. I think I'm fired. I think my wife's calling. Yeah, because they were all pissed at him before that. And it's like he knew if that gear fails, I'm fucked, basically.

Yeah, he knew. He also never had another job in racing. That was it. I wonder if that tirade probably put it in perspective. He probably asked the crew chief, what gear is he in? Was that fourth gear? Was that fourth gear? I just love him.

That sounded like fourth gear. I got to go. I've put up with this shit since 1972. He I just love him that sounded like fourth gear I gotta go I've put up with this shit since 1972 he's like I put up with it I made god damn excuses I'm not doing it anymore I'm not

he's like I had the car I could have won fucking asshole fuck Tommy and that like the frantic like that's the look on his face the whole time

awesome like can you believe this shit to the reporter like I can't believe it it's ridiculous so 1979 because of maybe because of this tirade maybe made him popular and also because of his fiery wreck, which is if you look at like, you know, look up top 10 NASCAR wrecks of all time, it's always top five. Really?

It's insane. I've never seen anything like it before. He's a sprinkler of fire. You mean Indy. Indy. Yeah, Indy. So basically, so he's a known entity in kind of the world here. He's a pop culture icon.

Not an icon, but a pop culture figure, we'll say. So in 1979- His name rings bells. His name rings bells. People know, like, that's the guy who was on fire, right? Yeah, okay, I got it. That's a fire sprinkler fellow? I don't know.

Spraying fire? Okay, I got it. It's a guy who yelled at that poor mechanic in front of the whole world? Okay. I get that guy. He sullied Tommy's name forever and nobody knew anything about him. I picture Tommy Smith just left quietly the motorway and drove to the nearest Jiffy Lube and put in an application

and I'm just going to change oil. He ran over to that Kmart and was like, listen, I heard you guys do front analyzers. He was like, actually I don't really want to get that involved with the no mechanics. I'm just going to change oil. I'm not doing any transmission work. No gears are being changed.

Don't mention a gear to me. This guy's clutches. No. No. I don't want to know about it. Front end alignment. I do them. Six bucks.

Let's go. Six bucks. Stack them up. So 1979, he gets a couple of TV gigs. Oh. A couple acting gigs, actually. Yeah. He gets a couple of TV gigs, a couple acting gigs, actually.

Yeah. 1979, he appears in an episode of the Dukes of Hazzard, which is perfect for a NASCAR guy. It's an episode of Dukes of Hazzard called Road Pirates. He played, quote, truck driver. That's his character. Good call. The plot of this particular episode, in case you're interested and want to go check out this Dukes of Hazzard, it's Boss Hogg has $10,000 in stolen television sets to sell on the black market.

Oh. But the truck is hijacked while en route to Hazzard. Bo, Luke, and Cletus are wanted in connection with the hijacking and are left to investigate Boss's latest scheme while trying to clear their names. Fantastic. That is good television, people. I'll tell you right now. That's a hell of a writing job. That's a hell of a writing job hell of a writing

job and then boss hog is is tasked with the with the chore of cutting off the driver's hands so i feel like he was the truck driver that lost the load yeah i think he took it i'm just saying now and then he got out of the truck and was like it was tommy smith tommy smith took everything now they just blame this on the duke boys and cletus by the way there's a hijacking not even in hazard in route in route to Hazard, and like, must have been them Duke boys. Everything that happens, you can't just blame it on the Duke boys. That's not the way you solve your town's problems.

Also, too, I feel like if the Duke boys had a lawyer, the whole show wouldn't exist. No. The whole show is them being railroaded for shit they didn't do. They would sue Hazard County, and it would be Duke County. They would sue him. There'd be a big press expose on Boss Hogg's corruption and Sheriff P. Coltrane's fuckery. And the lawyer would be like, listen, before we go to trial, let's get a fresh coat of paint on the roof of that car.

What do you say we get some orange over that? Guys. Because they're going to just railroad us with being racist. The optics. The optics are bad. It looks bad. It looks bad. It's not great. Listen, we get it's down in just railroad us with being racist. The optics. The optics are bad. It looks bad. It looks bad. It's not great.

Listen, we get it's down in the heart of Dixie. We understand. We understand. Your car whistles Dixie when you hit the horn. We get it. You're real Southern. Just blow some orange over that fucking flag, would you? They needed one lawyer.

That's it. One lawyer, the whole town, the whole show would have been different. Done. They would have been like, fuck, we can't bust the Duke boys. We will sue that fat white man in the fucking big white hat. That's right. It lawyer, the whole town, the whole show would have been different. They would have been like, fuck, we can't bust the Duke boys. We will sue that fat white man in the fucking big white hat. That's right. It'll be Duke County. It'll be Duke County.

No more Hazard. He just got Irv Goldberg to represent him. We're fucked. We're fucked. We can't compete with that. We can't. We can't do it. So good.

That's what they need, a one Jewish guy in Hazard County. You just ruined the whole show forever now. Well, good. Now we know. That's what happens. Just so you guys know now. This is what I did. If you watch that show, just know that the whole show forever now. Well, good. Now we know. That's what happens. Just so you guys know now. This is what I did. If you watch that show, just know that the plot is fucking stupid.

It's fucking stupid. And you think the Dukes would be like, I am tired of being harassed constantly. Where's the phone book? I'm going to find an attorney. Uncle Jesse, can I borrow a few bucks? You know, and let's do this. I think Daisy was a bartender. She had some cash to throw at the guy.

Help us out. God damn it. Listen, she was in short shorts. I don't think the lawyer would take much more than that he just make her give me a lab dance i'll defend you we'll own this fucking counter have her come over in her in her jeep oh that show short shorts with pantyhose yeah that's what she wore like so weird constantly hanging out yeah like totally this is sexism at its finest. Beautiful. At its finest, let me tell you something. That's just, like, at its fucking core.

That's it right there. It's a southern girl in a Jeep with her short shorts. And then Jessica Simpson recreates it fucking 30 years later. Yeah. And nobody said shit. Like, what are you doing? You're setting us back 30 years. And in half the episodes, she's being, like, hardcore sexually harassed at the bar.

It's terrible. Half the episodes start with's being like hardcore sexually harassed at the bar. It's terrible. Half the episodes start with this guy tried to rape Daisy. And then the Duke boys got involved and now they're running from the law for some reason. The Duke boys defended her honor and bashed him in the head with fucking beer, beer, beer, fucking glasses. I've seen that so many times. And they want to arrest them for hitting the guy. It's like, what the fuck? You want to know how stupid I am?

When I was a, we'll get off the Duke boys in a minute here, but when I was a child, I loved the Dukes of Hazzard when I was like four years old. That car was fucking kick ass. It was amazing. I loved it. I loved the wheels on it. The whole deal. The Charger was, I mean, it's an amazing car.

I loved the shot that they do in the opening where like they'd be, it was like a side thing and the wheels are spinning in the dirt. I was like, that's so cool. So they were, it was the coolest shit. I, as a child, did not realize that they were hillbillies. No clue. No clue. The jeans and fucking jean jackets and boots didn't give it away.

I just thought, shit, they are cool guys with a cool car. They didn't open the doors, bro. Doesn't matter. Their uncle was a moonshiner, literally. They slid across the hood. Their uncle was a moonshiner. Refined people don't slide their ass across the hood of their car. They had a Confederate flag and Dixie coming out every time they jumped.

Me, never noticed. And then when they came and did re-syndication when I was a teenager, and they came, I was like, holy shit, the Duke's a hazard. And I was like, they're fucking hillbillies, these people. Good Lord. This is ridiculous, man. What happened? It's like the fucking NASCAR fan's favorite show. I was mad at my mother. I was like, is ridiculous, man. What happened? It's the fucking NASCAR

fan's favorite show. I was mad at my mother for like, why'd you let me watch this? What the fuck is going on here? And they were cousins of Daisy and wasn't there like some... I don't remember any Daisy fucking, because Daisy would have a boyfriend. There's some undertones of sexual shit though, wasn't there? Well, I feel like they were like, hey, there's no other girls around.

Daisy's looking pretty good in them short shorts. There's one girl in town. I don't know. It's either her or Cletus. Her or Enos. I'm not sure. That's some weird sexual undertone. That's weird.

Now, don't leave it at the Dukes of Hazzard. That's not enough for him. He needs more. He needs to be a celebrity. In 1979, same year, he appears in a two-part episode of The Rockford Files. Oh, what? The Rockford Files. Oh, what? The Rockford Files. That's an interesting fucking transition.

The Rockford Files episode titled, Never Send a Boy King to Do a Man's Job. And he played a man named Vern in that. Rockford Files was Garner, right? James Garner? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So he actually was on a show with James Garner.

Garner's the shit, too. James Garner rules. Yeah, he does. He's a good guy. He's got some really codgery fucking views nowadays. He's kind of an angry, old, pissed off man. Never mind that. But in movies, he's great.

He's still alive, right? I don't know. I think he is. Was he the one who, I don't know, Sam Elliott replaced him as the beef guy, right? In the early 90s, it was like he was the beef guy. Yeah, beef. It's what's for dinner. Right.

And then it came in Sam Elliott. Oh, he's still alive. Beef. Okay. He's oldish. God, it was like he was the beef guy. Yeah, beef. It's what's for dinner. And then it came in Sam Elliott. Oh, he's still alive. Beef. Okay. He's oldish. God, he looks like shit. Well, he's got to be 85 years old, right? I would think.

80 years old? How old is he? He was born in 1928. That man is almost 90 years old. Wow. God damn. Yeah. That's fucking old.

You want to know what's awesome about it? His Wikipedia page says, birth date, 1928. No date. We didn't do months back then. No, it doesn't. Okay. It says April 7th. All right.

We didn't do months until after the Depression. Then we invented months after that. Before that, we just said a year. All right. I'm an asshole. Died in 2014. So rest in peace, you conger. Oh, fuck.

Yeah. All right. So we can't really fault him for his views three years dead now i had a feeling he was dead that's weird rest in peace rockford he was angry he was an angry fucking old man he had so many angry views and it was getting awesome i remember hearing about him yeah because it was it was like an angry old man just complaining which would be very funny honestly that's i like hearing angry he was bitching because he knew he was about to die he wasn't in power or anything so none of it meant anything.

Who cares? No one's listening to James Garner. Hey, did you hear what Garner said about the- You mean Maverick? Maverick? Maverick's got some fucking weird views. Surprise, surprise. The Fed's raising interest rates.

Do you hear what Maverick's had to say about it? No. That's so awesome. So 1980 here, his tv run is over apparently 1980 he tries to qualify for the indie 500 and does not qualify oh and that's his last attempt to qualify till 1990 oh which is getting up there in age too uh the 80s are a colorful colorful time for him basically the 80s are him using his name and celebrity and family money to be a complete playboy, drug addict, fuck about, basically is the best way to put it.

Getting him some Dilaudid. He's getting, well, no, he moves on from Dilaudid. Really? It's not just Dilaudid. That's what started it. It started with Dilaudid. By the 80s, he's coke, he's crack, he's heroin, literally anything he can get his hands on, he will snort, smoke, or jam into his veins.

Anything that makes him feel better. He does not give a shit. And forget he was on fire. Absolutely. Yeah, maybe that's to forget that moment. Yeah. But he does this, and he's also going through women like crazy. Really?

Like, oh, he's just living the life. Basically, he was like, whatever you would think of like a playboy 20-year-old kid moving somewhere using his dad's money. That's what he's doing, except he's also a celebrity, so it's even easier for him. It's ridiculous. He's just spending the 80s partying and being a complete fuckhead. In 1987, he's arrested for check fraud in Ohio. Oh, no. Yeah, he got probation for this.

Isn't that a felony? I don't believe it is. I don't know. Probably the amount is probably a thing, too. I don't know what the amount was for. It wasn't. This was a very sketchy record of this, I could find. But I do know he got probation for it.

It was in Ohio. It may have been a first offense, too. I believe it's. No, he's never been arrested before. He's never had any problems. That's what it is. He might have something that got brushed under the rug or whatever, but he's not had any problems with the law, nothing publicized, nothing on the record.

And check fraud, too, could have just been like, because it sounds, I mean, it's vague. It could have been like he wrote a wrong date or some shit. He could have wrote a check and it didn't have something in an account because he's on coke and heroin and delirium. Could have been some expired check from an account that didn't exist. You never know. Who knows? So the first time, he's never been in trouble.

You give him the benefit of the doubt on that. But it's a start. But it's a start. It's a start. And later on in the year, in 87, he's arrested for drugs. And he has apparently shitloads of painkillers that he shouldn't have. Awesome. And possibly some cocaine also.

So yeah, he's arrested for that in 87. So now he's been arrested twice in a year. Now we got a criminal. Hasn't raced in a while. Right. He tried to race some cart races in the 80s or something like that. That's the worst. NASCAR, he was banned from, not banned, but they were like, this guy's fucking going to

kill half the field. Here's the thing, though, and we may have a listener or two that does kart racing. They're fucking weirdos. My sister dated one, and he was like a construction worker, and then he did that shit on the side. He spent his whole fucking day building shit, and then he would go home and prepare to race these bullshit karts. And are they expensive, the karts? Holy fuck are they expensive. Because I know someone that owned like a drag racing team.

Yeah, yeah. Rod Beck was a great friend of mine, the old pitcher for the Cubs Giants, Red Sox, Padres. And he owned a drag racing team. Shit is expensive. And he was saying how it was basically just— It's a money pit. It was just hundreds of thousands of dollars flying out the window all the way. He said he had to get rid of it because it was like, I can't afford it.

It's just constant. That, too, and his brother-in-law was robbing him blind, and he sued him later on for it. He was stealing parts and selling them and then saying, we need more parts, basically. So Rod was like, oh, they need parts. I'll write the check. What do I know? I've got to get it right. That's horrible.

And so, yeah, that's nice. But that's beside the point, anyway. The point is, kart racing is expensive. Kart racing is expensive. He tries to do that. He's arrested for drugs. He's writing bad checks. Shit's starting to get a little less.

Dicey. Yeah, he's a little less of just this to get a little uh less yeah he's a little less of of like just as this famous guy who was like oh the poor guy got burned up now they're like that was 15 years ago uh stop writing bad checks right get your life together you fuck absolutely so uh may his drug use is apparently very well known in the 80s too it's it's bad like it's not like something he can hide it It's like, wow, salt is on everything. He's fucking everybody. Salt's on sugar.

Yeah. Salt, like, I picture every time that you see him, he's got, like, sunglasses on and his hair's fucked up and he's like, I don't know. He has no balance. Yeah. Been up for three days. He's got, like, crusts of food on his cheek, you know, something like that. What is that?

I had to take a McMuffin yesterday and he walked away. Yesterday? Yesterday. Holy shit. Salt's in bad shape. Have you seen that? I had to take a McMuffin yesterday and he walked away. Yesterday? Holy shit. Salt's in bad shape. Have you seen that? That's awesome. May 1990, there's a fluff piece on him.

Because you've got to have a fluff piece. Anybody who does anything bad, someone's going to be the one. It's almost like taking bets. Someone's going to be the guy and go, nah, shut up, fucking take 20 on the over. What do I care? Sure, I'll take 20 and he'll be fine. He's good now.

So this fluff piece is called, quote, Years of pain can't kill Walther's desire. Did they forget to interview him for this and get him in front of them? They interviewed the shit out of him for this. How do you write something nice about somebody that's just a fucking disaster? He's trying to get back into racing. He's planning on racing in the Indy 500 later on this month. And that's what this is about. So you're saying this guy got paid to write this shit.

This is to smooth over. And this is one of those where they interview him in a restaurant. And every time, all of these fluff pieces take place in a fucking restaurant. They got to buy him a nice meal. Everyone may go out. That way they can know. But you know what it is? I figured it out reading this.

Because every single one of these where there's an article where some shithead athlete and it's a fluff piece and they take him out. Every single one of them has to show how he interacts with the waiter, how he interacts with the lady at a table who recognized him or something like that. He's so polite. Yes. But now he's humble and the waiter talked and he had great banter with the waiter. This was the story where I said the waiter was like, I didn't know you lost your fingers because he knew the guy. The waiter knew who he was. He's like, I didn't know you lost your fingers. And he was like, yeah. He who he was. He's like, I didn't know you lost your fingers.

And he was like, yeah. He's like, how did you drive? And he's like, I can still grip the steering wheel. The doctors did that. And he like held on to his wrist. So he was going over this in the article. Watch me pick up the waffle with my hand. Yeah, watch me.

So watch me get my talon over here. So yeah, that's basically what it is. He's claiming to be drug free. He says he's never been better in his life. He hasn't been this happy in 10 years. Life is amazing for this guy. And he says on his lifestyle, we have an in their own words. He says on his lifestyle that he's been living in the 80s in their own words, quote, I knew what I was taking.

I got into everything. I didn't realize I was abusing it, but I was going downhill fast and nobody would tell me. Well, yeah, because you were moving too fast. You're going by 190 miles an hour. Like, fuck it, I guess. And you're throwing out everybody that would tell you. That's the other thing. I can't imagine he's keeping, like, voices of reason around when you're in this type of situation.

You should have probably had a conversation with Tommy. I'll bet Tommy would have told you that you're a fucking nutcase. I already said, listen, asshole. Hey, calm down. I replaced a gear for you trying to help you out. Calm down. And you berated me on national television. I wasn said, listen, asshole. Hey, calm down. I replaced a gear for you trying to help you out. Calm down. And you berated me on national television. I wasn't even there.

I was in my car halfway home. I was in the Wendy's drive-thru, and I hear this shit on the radio. Like, what the hell? So 1990, he again tries to race in the Indy, but he's replaced. He ends up being a first alternate driver. I don't know how that ended up happening. I guess because he was new. They were like, yeah, we'll get him back on the team. He hasn't been around in a while, but he ends up being a first alternate driver I don't know how that ended up happening I guess because he was new they were like

yeah we'll get him back on the team he's and hasn't been around in a while but you'll be first alternate in other words you're not driving so he doesn't have a seat is what it is yeah feel good about you can put

a jacket on and look like you're part of the team there you go that's what it is basically cut on that fluffy bomber yep cover up those nuts put the nubs in the pockets yeah absolutely yeah nub it up, kid.

So September of 1990, after this is after that race, that race is in May. He's arrested for driving while intoxicated in Indiana. Oh, shit. So not great here. Now, this is when he starts to stack up. He's on probation for one thing and then there's another thing. He's in the system. He's in the system now.

Yes. It's funny to see an older white guy from a wealthy family who's in the system now. It's like, dude, you are the guy who can avoid the system. You're the guy. You can completely never had to go near that system, you fucking idiot. Your parents were fucking in oil. You could have done anything. Anything you wanted.

Fucking in oil while money spewed from your mother's ass. Come on, what are you doing here? You're fucking next to a steel smelter. You're fine. Now he's also arrested at some point in 1991 for reckless driving in Hendricks County, Indiana. Oh no.

Yeah, he's a mess for this whole deal. He receives on April 30th, 1991, he receives a 60-day suspended jail sentence for the reckless driving. And I suppose that's the DUI wrapped into that as well, but he's on probation, so I think maybe he got it. It was very sketchy.

The court records from Indiana in 1991 are really not what I'd like them to be. Not what I'd like them to be. I'm not thrilled with them. Get your fucking organization together, Indiana. Come on, Indiana. Get your shit together. Now, we get to May 1991, and this is some serious fuckery here this state is this this is at the indianapolis 500 uh he tries to again be in the indianapolis 591 this is his last attempt

at it and he does not qualify okay he tried though so this is his last attempt but he's still hanging around indy and uh doing all this shit uh he steals a golf cart from the Indianapolis Speedway. Oh, my God. Why? He took the security card. It's not a security card. It's worse. It's a 1984 Yamaha golf cart.

Oh, shit. That was not easy to find, by the way. The owner of the cart, I have so much details on this goddamn golf cart. The owner of the cart, Jeffrey Kaiser, kept the cart in the garage and leased his garage to Walther's team. It was like some of his shit was in the garage too, but he leased it. When Kaiser went to retrieve the cart at the end of the week, he noticed the locks had been changed on his garage. So he's like, what the fuck's up with that? Oh, shit.

I want to get my golf cart out of here. Walther's just owning everything. Yeah. He's like, what's going on? So they start like an investigation of where the hell's the golf cart. Because once they get in, they find there's no golf cart. Like, where the hell's the golf cart because once they get in they find there's no golf cart like where the fuck's the golf cart this is like so deep for a golf cart that like the investigation into this by the police they were like really interested in where the fuck this golf cart is an acquaintance of walters a woman

named betty lessig tells investigators that it was her and salt took the golf cart from the garage yeah he's like yeah salt took it, hop on. And we drove away. And he ended up taking it. I don't know. She said, I thought it would belong to him. It came out of the garage that all the shit was in. And he said, hop on. I said, sure.

What would you think, right? Sounds like the plot to a Dukes of Hazzard episode. It is. And then he jumped a ravine with the Indianapolis police force behind him. So awesome. Where's the golf cart? It was definitely the Duke boys. It was definitely the damn Duke boys.

It's got a Confederate flag on the canvas roof of it. Salt ends up selling the golf cart for $1,000. That's steep. Well, it's a nice golf cart, I think. I guess. $1,000. Golf carts are expensive. It was like a seven-year-old golf cart at that point.

It's probably a gas-powered one. So he sells it for $1,000. How desperate is he for money where he's stealing? I mean, good God, that's where you work. He's stealing from where he wants to work, basically. He's stealing from something that's leased to him. There's a trail back to him. Who could have gotten in this garage?

Oh, the guy who has the key who I leased it to. Yeah, he might have been the one to steal it. That's what I mean. His forethought here is not great. The guy that has the keys to the locks that he put on. Yes, exactly. That's the guy who took the cart. That's your guy. Eventually, the cart

was recovered and returned to Kaiser. He ended up getting his golf cart back somehow. That's pretty incredible. Yeah, so on March 25th, 1992, the next year, Salt is arrested for the theft of the golf cart in 1991. What the fuck? This is as he shows up in Hendricks County because he's on probation for the reckless driving DUI, all that shit. He shows up for his probation appointment.

This is once they get in. It's like you show up for this. They arrest you. Another charge. It stacks. It's fucking scary, man. It's very scary. This guy should have the wherewithal to not do this, though.

Once again, wealthy family, all free opportunity in the world. You're a fuck up. In his 40s. He should know. Yeah. He's 45 years old at this point. Crazy. Get out of your ass.

Yeah. So anyway, he shows up for his probation appointment in Hendricks County, Indiana, and he's arrested for the theft right there. They take him to the county jail, Marion County Jail. Take a hike, asshole. So it's unreal. He's scheduled to appear on April 15th of 1992, which is like 20 days later for the theft. That's scheduled to happen there.

But on June 23rd, Walther is arrested again. Walther is arrested again. This is when it's just he's arrested in Dayton on a warrant for failing to appear at a probation hearing in Indiana on July 2nd. So he shows up and they arrest him for something. He doesn't show up and now he's arrested for this. And he is just in a, I picture him just on a spider web now, like trying to struggle. You know him in quicksand? They're like, don't struggle.

You know, they put a branch in, like he's the one kicking and trying to stop kicking. You're making it worse. Don't move. Stop, God damn it. You're down to your shoulders struggle. They put a branch in like he's the one kicking and they're like, stop kicking. You're making it worse. Don't move. You're down to your shoulders already. I got a stick. Just wait for it. Fucking idiot. So yeah, this was a hearing to see if his probation should be revoked for the theft of the golf cart. Oh shit. This is a big deal.

He not only needed to show up to this, he needed to put on a good showing too and seem like he had his shit together and not be a fuck up for this one minute. He needed to show up and have a good story. And have something good. Yeah, exactly. Meanwhile, he has none of it because he didn't show up. And even with the golf cart, he could have said, like, oh, I stole it.

I forgot it was his. I thought it was a guy on my crew. But they sold it for $1,000, which ruins that. That totally ruins that. So, like I said, hearing is to see if probation should even stick with this idiot. He's facing theft charges for the golf cart and failure to pay fees from the charge in Indiana, the court supervisory fees. It's just all stacking up.

He must turn himself in to Indiana authorities and face a hearing and post a $40,000 bond. This is a good one. To get out from under this. So, yeah, it's not going great here for him. This is 92. That would be the worst problem of my life if i had that going on and that's just minor this is tip of the iceberg for this guy he's still got that's still misdemeanor and civil shit that's not even fucking you're not even in big trouble and i'm gonna go ahead and say the 1990 fluff piece

where he says he's clean and sober and doing great never been happier i'm gonna go ahead and say he's full of shit now for that what do you think is it I'm going to go ahead and say he's full of shit now for that. What do you think? Is it safe? I'm going to go ahead and say that the author and journalist is a fucking idiot for believing it. Absolutely. They all, they want the fluff piece. Like I said, they're taking a chance. They're like, well, I could do a fluff piece and then look like an asshole later. They look nice writing it, too.

And nobody looks two years ago on who wrote a fluff piece on this guy. I'm the only asshole doing that. No one else doing that no one cares just us who was being nice to these dicks yeah who's being who's the idiot being nice to this day was it skip bail us i'll find him and hunt his ass down i swear to christ oh my god i love seeing his ratings for his show or in the fucking toilet i think i think we have more fucking listeners than he does i will go ahead and credit you with with his numbers dipping. We're taking him down. Wouldn't that be great if we could actually take him down?

That would be amazing. I want power like that. Literally, he had a show that was rated so low in a day that we have more listens in a week than he had on television on a Fox Sports channel in a day. Where people love sports. They'll listen to anybody talk sports. Fuck you, Scabellas. Yes, you frosty-haired douche, as we like to call you. Oh, fuck yourself.

So 1998, Salt, he must serve. He's wanted for a while for failure to pay child support. Oh, my God. Now he's a deadbeat dad. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, this is for a while, too. He's built up $8,500 in child support that he needs to do. That's tough.

In 1998, he's arrested for it, finally, for failure to pay. This is another thing, too. He's not a guy who will readily turn himself in. You've got to find him. You've really got to make it work. He's got to want it. You're going to have to boss hog the shit out of him. Yeah, yeah.

You're going to have to chase him as he jumps for a beam. You're going to bird dog him. Fuck yeah. Absolutely. So he must serve four months in jail for this. So now it's his first. This is jail time now. Now he's got to go to bird dog him. Fuck yeah. Absolutely. So he must serve four months in jail for this. So now it's his first. This is jail time now. Now he's got to go to jail in 98.

First time, four months for the 8500. And I assume he still has to pay the 8500. I would hope so. I don't think they wipe it clean. No, that doesn't go away. That doesn't put food in your kid's mouth, the fact that you sat in jail. Here's how much they hunt that shit down. My sister, who I was just talking about, dated the fucking cart douche.

She inherited a bunch of money from her aunt, her dad's sister, and a house. And she gave the house to her dad, put it in his name. He owed back child support for other children and the state took the fucking house and then sold it and then gave that cash to his ex-wife.

That's how much they will hunt you down. Pay your fucking child support, you idiots. Give a shit about your kids. Yeah, and also stay out of fucking jail. Even if you don't care about your kids, self-preservation has to mean something to you. Stay away from Boss Hogg. For fuck's sake, yeah. Roscoe P. Coltrane will chase

you. You can jump the ravine and he'll just watch and go, oh you, them Duke boys, but he's gonna jump. He's gonna follow you. He can't jump. He's got the basset out in the front seat. He's got the Basset Hound in the front seat. It would flop all over the place. Oh, poor guy. So anyway, May 1998.

Jesus Christ, what a fuck up here. May 1998, he is in jail for serving his four months for failure to pay child support. But they do a smart thing because if you're in jail, obviously you can't make any money to pay any child support because you're not making shit there. So he's on a work release program from jail where he goes out during the day, works, and he comes home at night and on the weekends and he sits in jail. It's like a halfway house, but it's the jail. Work for a little. Exactly.

Thank God fucking Otis Nixon has nothing to do with this or he'd be robbing his family blind. Waving his dick at people. Waving his dick. He'd have George Walther II there, his dad, just paying out of the nose. nose like i can get him in a halfway house i'll get him paroled don't you worry i know the governor right and the head of the person unreal i know whitney houston i know whitney you don't you know whitney houston so salt is on the work release program he comes home back to jail and hey one night like he's been doing every night and i apparently they i don't know what he's thinking because they i assume they search you when you come in i would hope so and if they

didn't they decided to on this day because they catch him trying to sneak three tylenol three pills in their codeine yeah that's codeine trying to sneak tylenol three pills into the warren county jail three of them that'll get you through the night huh probably i mean he's gonna go well he's probably gonna go in just take him and fucking try to take an addict i'm so i'm shocked three get an addict through the night yeah one fucking well maybe he had 10 in his system already who knows what he was doing i've gotten him for fucking dental work and they are amazing things too yeah so he he tries to sneak the pills into the jail in his glove in his black glove that he wore over his deformed hand that That's what I thought was great.

He's like, I'm going to use this to my advantage. That's like a guy trying to sneak shit in his wheelchair, basically. I'll just put it under my wheelchair. They'll never search me. That's what I feel like it is. Just glue the bricks to the fucking bottom of my chair. They won't look there. Unreal, man.

So in August of 1998, a few months later, he pleads guilty to trying to smuggle the Tylenol 3 tablets into Warren County Jail. Yeah. Sentencing set for November, of course. Now, sentencing is in November. Do you think he's going to show up for this, Jimmy? What are the odds? He's not showing up.

Blow on the dice and roll them. What do you think? Yeah. September 22, 1998. Salt fails to show up for sentencing, of course. Arrest warrant is issued. He's out jerking off somewhere. Unreal.

So the arrest warrant is issued. Salt is out jerking off somewhere. Unreal. So the arrest warrant is issued. Salt is finally, they track his ass down, and he ends up coming into court. And on September 25th, he comes in, and this is the best, too. He tells the judge, he said, why the hell were you on your, I don't know why I bother asking, but he said, I would think as a judge you just want to hear a creative excuse. Like, let's see what this asshole. This will be fun. Let's see how flagrantly he tries to lie to my face in a a creative excuse. Let's see what this asshole... This will be fun. Let's see how flagrantly he tries to lie to my face in a

courtroom under oath. Let's just see. With somebody typing the words that he's about to say. He tells the judge that he did not show up on the 22nd because the fuel pump was broken in his 1989 Dodge truck. Yes, she types fuel pump. Fuel pump. Now, if only Tommy

Smith would have been there, I'm sure he could have fixed that up. But the judge looked at... Fourth gear didn't work, sir. No, sorry. I'm surprised he didn't blame Tommy Smith for this. My fuel pump... Now, there's this fucking guy, Tommy Smith. Now, I'm not going to tell...

I want him gone. He's not working on any of my cars anymore. I'm going to put up with his bullshits in 72 and I'm not doing it anymore. Fuck that guy. So good. So the judge tells him... This is a judge fetters, tells him, quote, I don't believe that.

No. You're full of shit, asshole. Don't think so. So, yeah. Here's the thing, too. With a lie, there's usually like way too much description, way too, like throwing the year making model of the fucking pickup. Then that's when the judge is like, bullshit.

Let's move on. Yeah. I think you could probably fix a fuel pump race car guy. The only thing you didn't throw in was the color of this fucking car. Yeah, totally. The judge took pity on Salt for his use of drugs. Salt in the court admitted that he's a mess on drugs at this point. He said that he takes the codeine.

And he said, like, I take codeine. He said, I've had 100 surgeries and I have pins all over my body. He's like, I take codeine. It helps me. But not apparently if you're an addict, you can't be taking codeine no matter how much you hurt. And he also admits that he – this is funny because he did it for years. But he admits that he, quote, recently tried heroin. So you're like, I'm escalating.

I'm out of control. Like, help me is basically what he did. I recently tried it. Yeah. It's almost like his lawyer said, throw yourself on the mercy of the court. Say, I'm a fucking mess. I'm a drug addict. I need help.

And maybe they'll help you basically, which isn't a bad strategy for a drug addict, honestly, especially if you're, if you think it might work, if you're that judge is prone to that sort of thing. So he actually does. The judge sentences him to six months in drug rehab for the Tylenol.

That's a pretty good deal. It's fair. He needs the drug rehab and also three years probation. That's tough. Let's make sure he don't fuck up more on top of this and let's get some piss out of you every once in a while. So I need you to go to some people that are going to help you with this, but just to keep you in this shitty system that's fucking you over and over again because you can't get

out of it. Here's three years longer. The people I'm going to assign to you, they'll be the ones having you arrested soon. That's the next group of people that will be having arrest warrants issued for you. The judge told him, quote, Judge Fetter said, quote, it's still not too late to get your life in order, which he's like 50 years old at this point. I think it's too late. I go, dude, you're fucking too late to get your shit in order, dude. You're 50.

You're still doing this? It's too late for you to be behaving the way you're behaving. It's too late. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. Stop acting like a jerk off, you moron. So anyway, he's on that and he's got the probation for three years and six months in rehab, which he does the six months in rehab.

Good for him. Good for him. In 2000 he's arrested for DUI or DWI actually. It totally worked. It totally was perfect. It worked really well. DWI because it was not alcohol. It totally was perfect. It worked really well. DWI because it was not alcohol and also child endangerment after he's arrested for driving under the influence of drugs with his young daughter in the car. Wow. You fucking moron.

Wow. So now he doesn't want to pay for his kid and he's trying to kill her also. So it's like, well, maybe if I kill her, I won't have to pay for her anymore and I could stop getting arrested for lack of child support. Wow. Unfucking real, man. I don't, I won't have to pay for her anymore and I could stop getting arrested for lack of child support. Wow. Unfucking real, man. I don't even know. How dumb are you?

Don't do drugs and take your kids in the goddamn car. I won't drive my kids when I take Dayquil. Fuck. That's what I mean. I'm not taking anything. Because you're an intelligent, responsible, half-decent parent. That's right. I'd just rather not go to jail for it.

And you're a jerk-off. Yeah. Not a fucking asshole. You're a fucking asshole. I really am. Good Lord. But you're a good dad, though. I will say that.

I care about him. Jokes aside, you're a goddamn good dad, so that makes sense. He's not so great, this guy here. Of course, you've never been on fire, so maybe that changes a bit. Well, I was for a second. Fire changes a bit. It was just for a second. I didn't have to have skin grafts.

That's helpful. I was on fire. So May 19, 2000, Lebanon, Ohio. Sounds like a horrible place. Anywhere named Lebanon. Yeah, not Ohio. There's a Baghdad, Arizona. There is.

There's a lot of it. Yeah, that's where you went. It's in the middle of nowhere. It looks like Baghdad. I would never live here if you fucking paid me. So in Lebanon, Ohio, May 19th, 2000, Salt is sentenced to 180 days in jail for the child endangerment. Good.

So they bang him pretty good for five months in jail or whatever. That's brutal, actually. He needs that. Yeah. That's six months in good for five months in jail or whatever. That's brutal, actually. He needs that. Yeah, he needs it. That's six months in jail. Oh, yeah, six months. That's crazy. Yeah, 180, six months.

I got you on math this week. Nice. I slept for 45 minutes last night. I'm a mathlete this week. You are. Five, bow, hat off to your superior skills. I threw an extra 30. All right, go on.

So, yeah, he's sentenced for 180 days for child endangerment. So he's stuck there. So now he's in jail again. Yeah. Again. And this started out like so good. He was, 20 years ago, he's a playboy. Yeah.

He's a rich playboy. I see him in a white BMW convertible with like a fucking, a white shirt that's like half unbuttoned and it's blowing in the wind. Linen. Yeah. It's so linen. It's so fucking linen. that's like half unbuttoned and it's blowing in the wind. Linen. Yeah, it's so linen. It's so fucking linen. It's not even cotton. It's just a beautiful fucking shirt.

Yeah. And some baggy khakis. He goes from that. Now he's like in the Ohio system. In Dayton jail. He's sitting in jail. Some fucking county jail. He's sitting in some drab, shitty Ohio fucking Hendricks County jail

cell and there's a knock at his cell and he hears stuff rattle and he comes in and there's a poof of smoke and it's Dexter Manley, interior decorator from New York City. And he says, How is it you come to be here? I mean, how come you arrive here?

What's wrong with you? Look, this cell is, it's gross in here. It's gross. Look at you. Ooh, look at them fingers. Y'all burned. He's so burned. I don't like that.

He's burned. Is this counting? He's burned. Look at his fingers. He's got half a finger. Don't touch me. Ew, gross, gross. Spruce this place up a little bit.

You know what I mean? We'll get some stuff in here. We can do something with your... I know your fingers are messed up. We'll do something. I just get a clear eye for the straight guy. We'll put your gloves. We'll do something with your gloves.

We'll make it fancy. It'll be really good. He's going to bedazzle the gloves. We'll bedazzle them. Have you seen the ads on TV? Yes. Okay, we'll do that. I'll glitter those amazing things for leather.

We will work it out, honey. It's no problem. We'll get you back on your feet. It ain't no thing. And poof, puff of glitter and he's gone. Puff of glitter. Gone. Salted in his cell by himself again.

So good. I love Dexter Manley. I like him too. He's fun. I like him a lot. He's my new buddy. We need a third mic for that guy. Yeah, we do.

We've got to get him in here more often. Sorry. Thank you for coming in, Dexter Manley, Interior Decorator. Now, there's an article about him. Not about him, actually. It's a Champ Car Magazine. I don't know what the fuck that is. But Champ Car Magazine does a list of the worst drivers of all time, basically.

Did he make the list? He fucking made the list boy they cited of course well they cite his you know near death fiery crash they cite his nascar yeah fuck up they cite him never finishing in the top five or winning a race ever and they're like he's terrible no one stuck around for that long it was that terrible your dad has to own a race team for christ's sake or have a best friend who owns one. They said about him, quote, this is a great quote, quote, this wealthy young man had some of the best cars available in the 1970s, but vanity and a horrid attitude kept him from ever reaching the podium. He's a dick.

And the lack of fingers. And the lack of fingers. Yeah, this man, I give him credit for even getting in the car with that shit man unreal so july 18th 2007 now we're going all the way to 2007 salt is wanted he is wanted by the police he's been okay for a while he's been clear for a couple years he's probably off probation but he is now wanted by the police for several warrants several oh felony warrants, including guess which one? Failure to pay child support again.

That's no good. Didn't learn his fucking lesson. You did six months in jail. Dexter Manley came and visited you. What the fuck is wrong with you? Did it not get through? Told you to visit the kids. Unreal.

Unreal. So he's wanted. On this day, on July 18th, 2007, the Beaver Creek Police Department, they receive Beaver Creek, Ohio. seven the beaver creek police department they receive beaver creek ohio they receive a tip that salt is in the area basically of north fairfield road in beaver creek wonder who called he's been seen somebody who knows him called you know it was somebody who's like prick and he called because fucking jerk they give him insane details basically tommy smith's on yeah that's exactly who it is i see him finally it's been 20 30 years i'm getting my revenge 29 years i have not worked since 78 do you understand that god

damn it you've been putting up with me since 72 i've been thinking about this since 78 i got fired from the jiffy lube you get that you you get that? Do you know what that feels like? Do you know what that feels like? Kmart laid me off when I hooked up two five-inch speakers backwards. Backwards. I reversed the polarity and blew out the speakers, and now I don't have a fucking job. You got nothing now. Shit. So in Beaver Creek Police, like I said, they received the tip. Officer Sean Williams of the Beaver Creek Police Force is on the lookout for him.

He's the guy who gets the call. He is told this is how much information that somebody gave. They didn't just say, hey, I think Salt's in town. He might be on this side of town. They said he's driving a red Mercury Marquis license plate number DTX 9896. That's detail. Tommy Smith is pissed. He is pissed.

I just picture him looking out from behind something like, get him. I saw him. Finally. So Officer Sean Williams receives the description of Salt. He doesn't know what Salt looks like. He's probably not 50, so he doesn't know who he is. Right. So he receives it.

He's not a Dukes of Hazzard fan, apparently, whatever. So Officer Williams is looking for him around in that area. What year is this? 2007. Oh, that detective is not a Rockford Files fan. No, no, no. He's not at all. He's an officer.

He's not even a detective. Yeah. He might have been a Duke Boy fan growing up. Maybe. But this is interesting here. So he pulls into Officer Williams, finds a BP gas station, BP, British Petroleum, pulls into the gas station and drives behind the building like cops always do. They go in a grocery store and they go behind it to make sure people aren't smoking crack back there, jerking each other off.

And also, too, so that the public doesn't complain about whatever they fucking do. Like, if they park a little too close or something, somebody's going to call and be like, that's dick. I can't tell you how many times as a teenager I was, like, smoking weed behind a grocery store and we saw, like, a cop come and we're like, go, go, go. What the fuck? Yeah, they just cruise by looking for us, basically. But instead, they find a red Mercury Marquis.

And he sees the plate number starts with DTX. He's like, pretty good deal here. He sees, the police officer sees a white male standing next to the car talking on a cell phone that fits Walther's description. In his 50s, the right height, right weight, hair color, everything is the same. Right height, right weight, hair color, everything is the same. So he pulls his car, his police cruiser, within 10 yards of the red marquee and saw that the man really fits his description. Because he fit like the rough size description. He's like, oh, wow, he actually looks like what they described.

Sure. So he gets a little closer, puts on the lights, his spotlight on him. No, no, not the rolly lights, the spotlight. Right, the one on the side of the car. And the headlights and the lamp, basically. So he gets out of the car, approaches Salt. He makes eye contact with Salt. He said he made eye contact with him twice, once in the car before he turned the spotlight on, and then once he got out, he said he made eye contact with him again.

Salt made eye contact with him, and then Salt put his hand over his face. I just put him blocked out the mic. Yeah. Put his hand over his face. He has a cell phone in one hand, and then he puts his other hand over his face. I just put him blocked out the mic. Yeah. Put his hand over his face. He has a cell phone in one hand, and then he puts his other hand over his face. Right. To try to like- Trying to block his image.

Block his image. Like the cop- Don't look at my face. Like the cop would go, oh, never mind. Yeah. I thought it was- It's totally not you. It's not you.

The license plate is the exact same. Your description didn't say your head was replaced by a hand. Right. So I guess it's not the guy. Then he put his hand over his face, but didn't block anything because he's got no fucking fingers. He's got no fingers. It was very short.

Very short. Put his hand over his chin. That's all he got. As far as he got. So as the officer Williams is approaching him, Salt gets back in his car and pulls off at a high rate of speed. He said, he's coming. Fuck that.

Kets in. Takes the fuck off. So the cop, Officer Williams, gets back in his car and starts chasing him. Now he is chasing a goddamn race car driver. What are you doing, first of all? What are the odds? That's the thing. And you have to, as a cop, you have to go like, I'm not going to fucking race this guy.

This is comfortable for him. They don't teach cops. You think like cops, they would teach them all this. They don't give you anything. There's like a defensive driving course and they send you out there. They don't teach you how to weave in and out of traffic at 90 miles an hour like a NASCAR driver. If the cop had listened to this episode though all he would have to know is

just rub him a little. Just rub him. Just bump him. He's going to bounce into the fence. Don't worry. He'll flip right up in the side. Just hit that wheel. Pit maneuver. In a ravine in two seconds. This up in the side. Just hit that wheel. He'll be in a ravine. Pit maneuver. In a ravine in two seconds. This is what he does. I don't know.

So the officer says Salt was weaving out of traffic at an insane amount. And it was like traffic traffic. Like it wasn't two cars on the road. And Salt is just, he's a goddamn race car driver. He's not afraid. And he knows how to manipulate a car. He's going after the pole position right now. Yes.

Officer Williams chooses to abandon the chase. Good call. He says for the safety of the concerns with traffic, and he didn't want to be the guy who couldn't fucking catch the guy after a 20-minute chase, and he looked like a fucking idiot, basically. He's a goddamn race car driver. So Williams, the officer, returns to the station just to make sure and get a photo. I don't know why he couldn't get it on his computer, but Beaver Creek, Ohio, I don't

know if they weren't too technologically advanced. Don't you have live video streaming from your fucking car? Not then. So he goes to get the photo of Walther to positively ID him, and he says it's definitely him. And he said this was 15 minutes after he had seen him. So it's pretty fresh in his mind. You can identify him from a photo. Witnesses do it a year later.

They pick somebody out of a photo lineup, and the cops go, yeah, that's gold. Okay. It's a fucking in his mind. He can identify him from a photo. Witnesses do it a year later. They pick somebody out of a photo lineup in the cop's group. Yeah, that's gold. Okay. It's a fucking traumatic experience, too. You just fucking had to chase the man. You got within a couple feet of him. He made eye contact. You saw him.

You ran away. You were like, you fucking jerk off. Get back here. You saw his missing fingers. You saw the whole deal. So he's still wanted in July. This just goes on. They don't catch him right away.

He's still wanted. He's just on the lam right now. He is like the Duke boys, basically. He's got Roscoe's chasing him, and they're hit out somewhere. How about that? He had a bit part in a show, and then he ends up living the life of the show. He has turned into a Duke boy.

He's the third cousin. He is Bo Duke. Yeah, he's Salt Duke. That's his name. Or David Duke, which would make him a Klansman. Oh, that's awesome. So let's not do that. Anyway, yeah, he's wanted by the police. The police are putting out press releases asking for the public's help to find him. Wow. Like, we got to find this jerk off, basically. We have a Beaver Creek detective, Rodney Curd.

He says in the newspaper, quote, currently he's wanted by the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office for a probation violation. He's wanted in Warren County for non-support warrant. Let's get him off the street before he hurts someone. Yeah, no doubt. That's what he says because if we approach him, he's going to drive away at 100 miles an hour, which is pretty dangerous, even for a race car driver. In a Mercury. In a Mercury, yeah.

It's not exactly, you know, an IndyCar here. In a Mercury. In a Mercury, yeah. It's not exactly an IndyCar here. August 14th, 2007, Salt is finally arrested and charged with failure to comply with the police order and signal of a police officer, basically. So he's finally arrested. I don't know how they arrested him. That wasn't ever anywhere to be found.

They caught him by surprise. Yeah, I feel like he was like online somewhere, like online at a Circle K or something. Skin graft appointment. Skin graft appointment. Probably his probation officer. Like, there he is again. So August 16th, 2007, two days after he turns himself in, Salt is sentenced to 26 months in jail, imprisoned for nonpayment of child support. Oh, that is two years, sir.

That's two years in prison. And two months. And two months. That's a long time. That's for the latest nun. He apparently owed $21,000 in child support. Oh, shit is two years, sir. That's two years in prison. And two months. And two months. That's a long time. That's for the latest nun. He apparently owed $21,000 in child support. Oh, shit. Yeah.

And that doesn't go away after two years. No. You better fucking figure out how to pay. That's what I mean. Now he's really in trouble. And we have an in their own words on this, which is amazing. And he has a different amount. You found a quote from him after this?

Oh, I found a quote on this. This is good. He talks. He's a talker. Oh, boy. This is him on jail and on his whole situation. How do you like in jail, basically? This is in 2008.

In their own words, quote, it's kind of disgusting. You can just make the best of a bad situation, but I'm going to say it like I said it before. I'm not guilty. On that back child support, yes. But I could not. When a judge says you've got to come up with $18 thousand dollars in the next week or you're going to prison i don't know too many people who could do it right now the economy the way it is he blamed the fucking economy that's awesome like he lost it all in the stock market that's so great like you know madoff took me in that ponzi scheme otherwise

i was fine i would have the money locked down i had all my shit in the bond market and it collapsed. What are you going to do? The economy the way it is. Wow. I'd love to feed my kids but in this economy, who can do that? Who can feed your kids? I like the way he said it too. Not in this economy. The economy the way it is. You get it, right? We all owe $21,000 in child support, right? You do,

reporter. You owe $21,000 in child support. When a judge says you owe $18,000 right now support, right? That's so awesome. You do, reporter. You owe 21 grand in child support, don't you? When a judge says you owe 18 grand right now, and this economy? Yeah, this economy? And he said, yeah, you're going to jail, asshole. That's awesome. So November 13th and 14th is his trial for the failure to comply with an officer. It lasts two days. I don't know how that trial will last two days.

It's crazy because his lawyer asks a lot of questions of the officer. He is found guilty finally. Good. Jesus. He's sentenced to three years in prison. Holy shit. Three. Because this is just adding and stacking.

And I think the fact that he ran and never came back. That's a big deal. We're going to get you. And also, his license will be suspended for 15 years. Holy shit. 15 fucking years is a long time. Holy shit. I've never heard of anybody having it suspended that long.

Just say no more of her. I know a guy with seven DUIs. He's never had it suspended that long. He's 60 at this point. Just say we're not giving it back to you when you're 75. By the time you're 75, you're going to be too old and decrepit to drive. I know. So now, I mean, Jesus Christ.

Now he has no driver's license. So even if he gets out, he can't drive. He can't work to pay the child support. There's kids that he hasn't supported. There is Tommy Smith has lost his goddamn job. He's been on so many drugs. He's been DUI. He's made this cop crazy.

He made a reporter look like an idiot for doing a fucking fluff piece. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I feel bad for all these people, but not nearly. This is awesome. Not nearly as bad as I feel for David Walther, Senior Vice President of Engineering at Nalubo, Inc. in the San Francisco Bay Area. Or David Walther, Travel Agent and Intern Scout at Ohio Valley Basketball League.

In Ohio. In Ohio, even. That's terrible. That's rough. David Walther, Attorney with the DWL Group, as in David Walther, David Walther, L, so whatever the L is, Group, in David Walter, David Walter, L, so whatever the L is, group in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

He has over 40 years experience in family law. He could help the other one get out of child support cases. Somebody could use your help, Mr. Walter. Holy shit. David Walter, doctoral candidate and assistant lecturer at Texas A&M University. Wow, he's got a good life. David Walter, expert in transaction advisory services, mergers and acquisitions, and financial diligence at RSNUS in Houston, Texas. Holy shit.

That's a business card. That's a fucking job title right there. That takes an index card to fucking get that title in. I was like, I got to get this title right. That's a lot. That man deserves respect. And finally, David Walther of DavidWalther.co, not.com, DavidWalther.co. This guy, wow. David Walther of DavidWalther.co, not.com, DavidWalther.co.

This guy, wow. He fancies himself a, quote, healer, medium, gatekeeper is what he says himself. He says basically he can help all your spiritual things. He even says he can help if you have a haunted house. He can come to your house. And he's a spiritual advisor. The other David Walther is a better person. Yeah, this guy's a jerk off.

It's true. This one, let me tell you why. You don't even know why yet. He teaches classes of how to teach other people how to be a jerk off. Fuck you. At least Walther's not like, let me sit you down and tell you how to not pay for your kids and run from the cops. This guy's a dick. Let me get you a good heroin addict.

Here's how you do it now. So this guy's just a dick. What you got to do first is lop your fingers off. L guy's a dick. Let me get you a good heroin addict. Here's how you do it now. So this guy's just a dick. What you got to do first is lop your fingers off. Lop your fingers off. Now, so. Fuck, man. Walther's fine, though. He's sitting in jail right now.

Salt's sitting in jail. And he says, in their own words, I'm jail. No way. Again, another jail quote. In their own words, I'm jail. Quote, I'm treated like a celebrity. I'm treated very well. but everyone's good to me. I've had no real gripes. It makes me so it makes me sick to be here.

And it's disgusting, but it is what it is. I showed you the letters I got from China and Germany and a lot from the United States. And again, thank you for all of that. He's literally thanking his fans. Wow. He's like, listen, I know everyone loves me. Got your letters all across the world. Thanks, guys. Wow. Be out fans. Wow. He's like, listen, I know everyone loves me. Got your letters all across the world. Thanks, guys.

Wow. Be out soon. Unreal. Unfucking real. I hate him. I hate him, too. He's a douchebag. Does he send, like, autographed pictures of his hand in the glove?

Like, is that his thing? That's beautiful. It's like, what's his name? Was it Session was the ones from prison? Yeah. Was he sending out the pictures from prison? No. Who was the guy doing the pictures from prison next to the other guy?

Oh, the fucking, the wallets? Yeah. Somebody had a wallet. I think it was. Was it Session? I don't think it was Session. Was it the garden party guy? I don't think it was.

No, it wasn't. No, it was in the US. He was taking pictures. It was just a recent one. It was two episodes ago. I can't remember his fucking name. It's not Woodfield. No.

It was before that. No, it was Woodfield. It was Woodfield. You're damn right. It was not Woodfield. No, it was before that. No, it was Woodfield. You're damn right. It was the fucking serial killer. Serial killer. God, this was like three weeks ago. It's been a long three weeks, guys. It was Woodfield.

And we do another show. He sells wallets when fucking, they took away our fucking weight room, but we're still ripping it up. Selling wallet-sized signed pictures from jail. Unreal. The only person that's more recognizable in a leather glove than this guy is the man with six fingers from Princess Bride. That's it. That's it. The only one.

He's like the shitty stubby version of that. He was the understudy. Yeah. Like, if anything happens to this guy, we got stubby fingers over here. We got a guy who's... It's a glove. It's fine. Same shit.

So he appeals this, by the way. He appeals the failure to comply in three years deal he appeals it on grounds that the officer couldn't have made a positive idea on him not knowing not seeing his picture and it was and he says it wasn't him anyway he's like i don't know what you're talking about that wasn't me that was another guy who looks just like me drives the car i drive with a license plate and can drive 90 miles an hour swerving traffic away from the cop another guy just another one. Great defense. Perfect, right?

He says that he didn't see the photo. The cop didn't see the photo until 15 minutes after and you can't possibly remember a face for 15 fucking minutes. So I saw the court transcripts where they get this cop on the stand and ask him, have you ever worn glasses? No. Can you see well? No. Okay. You have this. How close

were you? This distance to the back? You know what I mean? The whole deal. I hope that cop was a fucking fighter pilot in NOM or something. He's like, I've got perfect eyesight. I can see. Okay. 346 confirmed kills because I saw them.

I walked up close. I can tell you what each and every one of them looked like. Including this asshole. Right. I have a photographic memory and i remember fuck faces that try to run from me 2008 uh salt says he plans on releasing a book of his life oh god jesus he says it will be very honest what is it salty life what is it we'll see in a second there's stickers in the south that are called salt life for like people on the ocean oh

yeah yeah yeah well we have an in their own Words about what the book will be about here. And wow. In Their Own Words on the book, quote, the cocaine, the crack, the meth. I've seen what it did to me. And the book tells you, tells parents, that this is how you spot it and this is what you do. I hope that's the title. That should be it. The cocaine, the crack, and the meth.

That should be the fucking title. That's awesome. That's the book he wants to release. What a dickhead. A parental guide on how to spot if your kid's undelotted, I guess. I don't know how that would happen. Listen, Lawrence Taylor already wrote that book. Yeah.

There's been a lot of people who wrote that book, actually, that we've covered. November 21st, 2008, his appeal is denied. Decision affirmed. He can go fuck yourself. You, sir sir may fuck off right back to prison with you now November 22nd his birthday 2013

Kings Road West Productions releases the book The Salt Walther Story for the Race of Your Life it's called it's a terrible title and it's an e-book good I hope nobody buys that it's one of those ones where you write it and you can submit it to Amazon. That's one of those, basically.

That's so weird. They couldn't even get a book deal. He's got an interesting life. We just did this. It's interesting. Right. He's a fucking lunatic. But I don't want to read the book.

I'd rather listen to two idiots make fun of him. Me too. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to read it from him. For the race of your life? For the race of your life. That doesn't even make any sense. You can see on it here, I have it crossed out. Because I wrote, oh, the race of your life? For the race of your life. That doesn't even make any sense. You can see on it here, I have it crossed out because I wrote, oh, the race of your life,

because I just glanced at it and I'm like, the race of your life. And then I looked again closer to make sure and I'm like, that's not what it's— What the fuck? It doesn't even make any sense. Your brain, when you see that sentence, it just sees the race of your life. It doesn't compute the four because it makes no fucking sense. Your brain cuts it right off. For the race of your life.

Now, February 7, 2012, he's finally released from jail. Finally. Good Christ, he's been in jail forever, deservedly so. That was, you know, that's before his book came out. Right. So he's released and he gets his book out. Gets his book out, okay? November 18, 2012.

This is four days before his birthday here. Before this, this is because the book came out later. He is arrested again. Again. You dumb son of a bitch. The race of your life. The race, racing to the jail is where he's racing. He's arrested. It's in connection with the same

2007 incidents with the failure to comply. Fucking hell. Apparently there was another charge hanging around of obstruction of official business. Oh, awesome. I don't know how that official, I don't know how that ended up slipping through the cracks or whatever, or the statute of limitations. I don't know if he was out and they were like, we got another charge hanging around. The statute's going to run out.

Let's just bang him with it and get him back in jail because he's a fucking lunatic. We don't want him on the streets. I guess so. But I think he bonds out of that situation. That's in November of 2012. And on December 27, 2012, he dies. Holy shit. Fucking dies.

Awesome. Straight dead in Montgomery County, Ohio. Cause of death originally was ruled undetermined. But there's a bunch of news speculation later on and not speculation, like leaks from the jail or whatever psychology reports it appears to be drug related uh and even if it wasn't drugs at the time it was drug wear down that ended up killing him so he's fucking dead he dies his book came out after he died comes out a year later nobody gives a shit for the race of your death For the race of your death. He's fucking dead now.

End of story. One guy we don't have to worry about killing us. That's great. So funny. He grew up. He lived. He was a fuck-up. He died. End of story. Goodbye. That's the whole episode. Thank you for your story. Jesus. Thanks, Salt. That's Salt Walther, guys.

I bet you've never heard of him because I never heard of him. I hope you never have and I hope you never hear of him again. Jesus, what a mess. I like the race car guys because they all race like boats and do crazy. They're all nutcase adrenaline junkies. I love this. They're hilarious. 100% lunatics. I love them and I love boxers and MMA fighters and all that.

They're the most fun. Their life is always turmoil. It's never just. It is. And his didn't have to be. No. That's the crazy fun. Their life is always turmoil. It's never just... It is. And his didn't have to be. That's the crazy part. Like, all these stories are like... They work so hard and they do great in their sport and then they fucking

go off a cliff. This guy never did great in the sport. You look at Tommy Morrison, Willie Mays Akins, Tommy Morrison's mother's a prostitute. Made something out of nothing. Willie Mays Akins didn't have plumbing and a dirt floor. You expect, okay, they might end up fucking up eventually. Fast Eddie Johnson had to pick fucking watermelon. Yeah, this guy literally was from a steel magnate family.

He could have done anything he wanted and most of the time gotten the fuck away with it, too. That's how dumb you have to be. You have to stack charges to not be able to get out from under him. He did it himself. It's ridiculous. So that's Salt Walther, guys. Hope you enjoyed that. Bye, Salt.

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