Crime in Sports - #63 - The Path Of A Dangerous Individual - The Erraticness of Trevor Berbick - w/ SPECIAL GUEST Dan Cummins

Episode Date: April 11, 2017

This week, we take our special guest, the hilarious comedian, and host of the amazing "Timesuck" podcast, Dan Cummins with us, as we head down a long path of unravelling, that negatively impacts the lives of everyone this man came in contact with. Especially the women he attacked, the other women, he held at gunpoint, the men he held at knifepoint, and of course, his large brood of children, and former wives. Not to mention, his country, his family, and even Muhammad Ali. This is a tale of human tragedy, that would be extremely sad, if it wasn't so excessively hilarious! Also, check out James & Jimmie on this week's episode of the Timesuck podcast by going to timesuck.com, or just subscribe on iTunes. Beat a legend into not being able to speak, kidnap your financial advisor, and hold your ex-wife's new boyfriend at knifepoint with Trevor Berbick!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: [e-mail] on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It's streaming. You can say anything. It's an all-new season. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. Hello, and welcome back to Crime and Sports. Yay! Yay. Jimmy, as always, your yay is of the highest order.

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But that would be excessively helpful. So thank you guys for everyone that has done that. It's everything. Everything. It's everything. Exciting show this week. We've got to get right into it because we've got a lot to cover. And for the first time, for the very first time, we said from the start, we're like, no guests.

We don't do guests. We don't need them. We have a thing that goes on from the start, we're like, no guests. We don't do guests. We don't need them. A thing that goes on. We got this. We don't need guests. We don't. But today, we actually have a guest because he's that special. He's funny.

He's hilarious. We love him to death. His podcast is called Time Suck, and you should really check that out. It's amazing. Also, you should get his album, Don't Wake the Bear. Hilarious. Guys, welcome Dan Cummins into the Crime and Sports Studios. Thank you, man.

Thank you very much. I'm excited to do this, man. I was listening to your guys' podcast before I even started mine. Jimmy's been like this wonderful cheerleader the whole time. He's like, you got to do it. You got to do it. And his passion's contagious, and now I'm in. He does.

Full annoying douche that texts Dan in the middle of the night. Jimmy texts everyone in the middle of the night. Now it's great. He texts everyone in the middle of the night. That's scary. Pictures of his dick or what? It's just a lot of mostly dick pics. Mostly dick. Some balls.

That's what I get too. A lot of taint shots. A lot of taint. The balls are long though. The taints are special. The taint you got, because it's nice because you have to really get the right perspective to tell what it is. That's the thing.

Is that an armpit? What is that? Oh, okay. I see that. Yeah. There's the trail of the asshole. Perfect. Yep. Trail's the thing. Is that an armpit? Yeah, it is. Oh, okay. I see that. Yeah, there's the trail of the asshole. Perfect. Yep. Trail to the asshole.

Right there. There it goes. Asshole trail. Speaking of asshole trails, we have an asshole today to cover, boy. We're going to follow his trail. Wow. We are going to follow the trail of this asshole because he's a special one. He's special, guys.

We're going to talk about Trevor Burbick. Oh. Oh. I have no idea who the fuck that is. Oh, my God. That's amazing because once I tell you about him, you guys are going to talk about Trevor Burbick oh I have no idea who the fuck that is oh my god that's amazing because once I tell you about him you guys are going to be like that guy that he's done everything he's very famous and he is

Trevor Burbick he's a boxer and now it rings a bell was a good boxer and also a bad boxer at times too and a huge asshole all of the time so this is going to be a lot of fun it's Trevor Anthony Burbick and not a junior but I shocker there to be a lot of fun. It's Trevor Anthony Berbick, and not a junior. Shocker, there will be a junior in this story if you, I mean, is there ever not?

There's always a junior. There's always one somewhere. The craziness started August 1st, 1954 in Norwich, Port Antonio, Jamaica. He's a Jamaican fella here. I don't know much about his early life because I think he's one of these guys that his later life was so crazy that nobody bothered talking about his younger life. I guess nothing as eventful, as insane happened as a young man. So they're like, let's just start when he started getting crazy. We just know he's really fast and likes jerk chicken.

That's it. We know that. We're positive about that. We're positive. Bob's sledding bastard. We are positive that he could turn a shopping cart into a barbecue in two seconds and make you up some jerk chicken like you would not believe, man. I'm telling you. But he grows up to be a big guy. The jerk chicken really sustains him at 6'2", 252 pounds.

Yes, lean. 252 pounds. Big guy. Yeah, he's a big, huge guy. 6'3". Sorry, 6'2". Some people say 6'3". It varies, but he's, big guy. Yeah, he's a big, huge guy. 6'3", or 6'2". Some people say 6'3". It varies, but he's a huge guy.

When you see him later on in some of the boxing matches, like when you see him fight Tyson, you're like, wow, he's a lot bigger than Tyson. Holy shit. But that didn't matter, as we'll find out. Not at all. He grows up in Jamaica on the island. I don't know why you'd want to leave.

That sounds like a nice paradise, right? This happens, too. Remember James Waite? Same thing. Grows up in Barbados. I think I know why you'd want to leave. That sounds like a nice paradise. Paradise, right? This happens to remember James Wade. Yeah, same thing grows up in Barbados. I think I'll move to England. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Out of your mind. Remember that one?

Yeah. Where did Burbick move to? Burbick. This is the other thing, too. Jamaica of all play. We'll get to where he moves in one second. But he represents Jamaica in 1975 in the Pan American Games in Mexico City. So right away, he's like legit.

You know, this is after only 11 amateur fights. American Games in Mexico City. So right away, he's like legit, you know. And this is after only 11 amateur fights he's in this deal. So that's not a lot at all. Like, he just jumped right in. Little training. Yeah, they were like, you're big. The island's small. Not a lot of people boxing.

Come on out there. We need somebody to represent us. You're as big as it gets. You're the guy. That's it, man. He looks good. I mean, he's a big guy. He's got decent skills.

He loses to Michael Doakes, who's a future heavyweight champ in the Pan-American Games, and he is hilarious looking, this Michael Doakes. Oh, God. Look at pictures. He looks like basically somebody roused James Brown in the 70s out of bed in the morning. He was like, huh, what happened? And his hair's all

crazy. True boxing gloves on him. That's great. Yeah. And this is his, like, headshot. Like, he looks terrible. It's the funniest thing. First name again? Say it again. Michael Doakes. James, we've got to put gloves on you.

This isn't a woman you're hitting today. Yeah, come on. Come on, James. Oh, man. So Trevor wins a silver in the Pan American Games. So that's not bad. It's, you know, he's just started and he's second. I don't know who else was fighting in the Pan American Games, but whatever.

1976, it's enough to get him into the Olympics. He looks like Shaft. Are you kidding me? He looked well if Shaft was in a lot of humidity maybe. He looks like Shaft is melting. His afro fell apart. It's very bad.

That's so great. I saw it and was like, oh my god. Google Michael Doakes and do yourself a favor. That's so great. I saw it. I was like, oh, my God. Google Michael Doakes and do yourself a favor. That's awesome. We'll post him on our social media, too, if you're too lazy to do that. But Trevor's only 21 years old in this fighting. He represents Jamaica. This is in Montreal, the Summer Olympics.

It's the first Olympics to be held in Canada, actually. Yeah, this is the same year that both Michael Spinks and Leon Spinks won gold medals. Oh, weird. They're not brothers, but Leon Spinks beat Muhammad Ali. Michael Spinks ended up losing to Mike Tyson for the unification. Epic fashion. Demoralized by Mike Tyson. One of the highlights of my childhood, honestly, watching that.

I don't think he ever left his corner. No, he just came out. He was like, ah, I'm just going to lay down. He kept getting up like, okay, I'll fight more. It's like, why are you fighting? One punch and he's back down again stop just stay down oh that was bad poor michael spinks but before that he was a great boxer he only he had a problem with him also sugar ray leonard won gold as a light welterweight that year so this was a big year for like olympic boxing that's probably the only sport anybody watched that fucking olympics probably well now

we'll get to a couple other things uh 29's pretty impressive. 29 countries, mostly African countries, boycotted the games because the committee refused to ban New Zealand after New Zealand's national rugby team did tours of South Africa denying they defied the UN. The UN had a sports ban on touring South Africa because of apartheid, and the New Zealanders were like, eh, fuck it, we don't have any black people here, and they just went over there like, we don't fucking care.

And so they just did a tour, and so a lot of countries boycotted because they were letting New Zealanders were like, hey, fuck it. We don't have any black people here. And they just went over there like, we don't fucking care. And so they just did a tour. And so a lot of countries boycotted because they were letting New Zealand play in the games anyway. This is the first Summer Olympics since the 72 Munich Games. So people might have been expecting even more excitement than they got with the boxing with, you know, terrorists and all. This was the year that Bruce Jenner won the gold for the decathlon. So, yeah, that's how far away this is. Caitlyn's finest athletics. It's her finest hour, I got to say.

She was never more beautiful, Caitlyn. No, no. Her hair flowing in the wind as she ran. That was beautiful. Balls almost out of her shorts. Those shorts were so short. They were short. Well, yeah, he was probably disappointed.

If you Google a picture of him running, you can actually make out what he cut off in the fucking shorts. He's still got a cock, though, I think. I thought he got rid of it. I thought Caitlyn got rid of it. This is ridiculous. I think there's a cock dangling, but beyond

a transgendered person's cock, let's talk about how this is also the year when a Japanese gymnast, Shun Fujimoto, completed the rings. You'll see this highlight all the time. A guy going off of the rings and flipping and landing and looking like his head's going to explode. He had a broken knee. And it was a close game, so they said, get the hell out there.

And he did it. And he did all that shit on a broken knee. Broken, oh, wow. And landed on a broken knee, and you could see it on his face. He's like, ah! The only thing that's going to hurt is the dismount. And it did. It looked like a painful as shit. Unbelievable.

So Trevor is beaten by more experience and eventually wins a silver medal. He is beaten by a more experienced fighter because he's just not as skilled as some of these guys are. There's a guy named Marseille Simone of Romania that beats him and he ends up winning a silver and Trevor wins shit. So in 76 with all the success under his belt getting beat up by a Romanian he

leaves Jamaica to fight professionally. Now you leave paradise. You leave an island shopping cart jerk chicken everywhere. Where do you go? Where do you go? You figure you want to go somewhere with a similar climate, right? Yeah, similar culture also. Yeah, you know, something like that. South America, something?

I got an idea. How about Montreal? Perfect. That's perfect. You know, warm French. You know how it is there. Yeah, it's perfect. That's where I would go if I was a large Jamaican man.

He clearly hates beaches. That's what it is. He's had enough. I don't like it. Immediately starts pro-fighting at that point. He moved to Canada to train, to fight. He goes to Halifax to fight while living in Montreal. Has his first professional fight at the Festival Arena in New Brunswick, Canada, where everything important happens at the Festival Arena in New Brunswick, Canada.

It's a six-round fight versus Wayne Martin, who is what we like to call on Crime and Sports a non-linker. If you look on Wikipedia and look up the record, he's just a black name with no, not clickable. Non-linker. Non-linker. That's all the boxing guys that we can't. Not clickable. Not clickable.

Nobody cares. And it takes Trevor until the fifth round to beat him, actually. This is a thing with Trevor a lot. He's not a real big knockout guy. He's not a come in and – He's crazy at his size. Yeah, he's this big, huge guy, but he's kind of lumbering. It's weird.

It's almost like he's too long or something to do it. It's not like a Larry Holmes or a Lennox Lewis where there's a snap to it. He kind of looks lanky. He wins by points a lot. He's punching down too a lot, I imagine. He's punching down. He'll talk about weird angles of punches later too. But, yeah, fifth round TKO, so that brings him to 1-0.

And that's September 27th. He gets right into it. I mean, now he's like fighting. We always see this in the beginning. Fighting every two weeks or some shit. It's crazy. They put him out there constantly. Go get your ass kicked.

Now that you've had that ass kicking, two weeks later, there's not even a chance to train. No, no. You're having a couple chicken sandwiches, and you're right back to it. That's it. Get in there. Yeah, get your jerk chicken and and you're right back to it. That's it. Get in there. Get your jerk chicken and get the fuck back in there, asshole. So November 23rd, 1976

at the Forum in Halifax, Nova Scotia, the Madison Square Garden of Canada, I'm sure. He fights Bobby Halpern, wins by TKO in round three there. So it takes him to the third round, that sort of thing. Right away, a month and a half later, January 9th, he's fighting in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia.

These places he's fighting in. You leave your home to seek the excitement of this Nova Scotia. Every place sounds more frozen than the last one. Oh, it is. It's all just tundra. He's going north and north and north. So awful. His eighth fight is literally at the North Pole.

It's in Santa Claus' front yard. It's insane. He fights Michael Lucas here, TKO in round two. So he's 3-0. This is just starting to bring him down a little bit in time. He fights two, what is it, 16 days later. He's fighting again at the Metro Center in Halifax, Nova Scotia versus Joe May. 16 days.

That's a very quick turnaround for a boxer. You would imagine. You've been hitting the head a few times. You might want to relax for a couple of weeks. So fast. But not this guy. Which, again, head injuries are going to become a factor. Whenever we do MMA, boxers, anything like that, head injuries, always a factor.

Yeah. Huge. And we're going to get a medical reason for this later also. He wins in a seventh round TKO against this tomato can, Joe May. That's what I mean. But he's taken these short in-between fights and he's taken them extra rounds, too. That's not great at all. Yeah, so much.

Absolutely. Yeah, you can look at a guy's career by rounds a lot. Oh, yeah. If you look at Mike Tyson, he has like 60 fights, but you're like, he's fought the rounds of 21 fights. He's got 73 rounds in those 60 fights. Right, right. It's not a lot.

If you look at Ali, as we'll talk about later, he had fights where the last eight years of his career, all but like two of them went the distance. Right, yeah. And that was 15 rounds of getting the shit pounded out of his brain. And he's like, wonder why I can't talk. Right. I wonder why. Jesus Christ. Should have thought about that.

So rest of 1977, three more fights against all non-linkers, Willie Moore, Eddie Owens, and Eugene Green. They sound like made-up guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's a boxing movie. That's who Rocky fought, you know? He fought Spider Rico and then this guy, and then Eugene Green. Eugene, Eugene Green. Eugene Green, yeah, that's a guy.

We'll call him like, yeah, Mean Green. That's perfect. Yeah, Joe Green. It's fine. Get him out there. All these fights are in Halifax. He's living the dream. None of them are very impressive. Fourth round

KO, fifth round TKO, and a ten round unanimous decision versus old Eugene Green, the Hollywood star that he is. A record 7-0, but not real impressive here. June 28th, he fights a guy named Horst Giesler, which, Jesus, a Canadian non-linker as if one ever existed,

has a first round KO. Nice. There we go, Trevor. How bad must this guy have been? Forced. Glass Joe from the punt-out. Yeah, they just stuck him out there. A minute 21 into the fight.

So this is like Trevor's first. I feel like it was an accident. I really do. I feel like it was an accident. He, like, ran into a shoulder blade or something, fell over. It's like, shit. That's his first impressive win. He goes to 8-0.

Now his personality starts to show at this point because he's difficult to work with. Okay. Surprise. Surprise. All the promoters are very like, this guy's crazy, number one. Yeah. Number two, he'll say like, yeah, I don't like that purse or I don't like the ring or something like that. I'm just not going to fight.

And he's got like eight boxing matches against nobody. Like he doesn't like the decoration? Yeah. He's just like, no, I'm not doing that. He's very difficult. He'll walk away from fights like, no, I'm not doing that. And I'll just not fight. The ropes are red, white, and blue.

I only fight in red ones. That's it. Stuff like that. I love at this stage of his career to do that. He'd be like, no, I'm not going to do that fight. And then walk off and then like drive home in his Hyundai Elantra. You know he did too. Right. You know he did too. Right.

You know he had like a 77 El Camino. Yeah, whatever was the Chevy Citation hatchback. Yeah, exactly. He's like, I will not fight. I refuse. I'm too good for this. Somebody push my car. It needs to start.

He does it dramatically even and comes back. Can someone give me a jump? I'm not going to fight. Can someone give me a jump? I'm going to get some charcoal on the way home. I need some jerk chicken. Let's do this. Unbelievable.

But he's very religious, as we know. Awesome. This is always a good sign. You might as well be a junior at this point. Always, like, he's heavily religious. He's heavily religious. Like, he's Pentecostal. Oh, I was raised a little bit of that, yeah.

Were you really? That's religion. That's tent revival stuff right there. There's no casual nature to that. Drums and shit. Fire and brimstone. That's some serious shit right there. We always get shit for ripping on Baptists,

but that one is the only one that kind of trumps Baptists. Oh, God, yeah. Even Baptists are like, Pentecostal? You guys take it a little far, aren't you? Come on. What are we doing here? You guys can take it down a notch. Take it down a notch.

Snakes, really? Is that what we're doing now? I don't know about that. I think you're taking it a little too literally, boys. He dubs himself, and we love self-given nicknames, of course. That's our favorite thing here. The fighting preacher is what he calls himself. Okay, that makes sense.

So you know he's going to do some crazy shit later if he's claiming to be a preacher uh he just quotes the bible to people just like here's a psalm for you just walks up to strangers like in between sparring and shit probably in between rounds like he's sitting there they're working on a cut and he's like let me tell you something he's talked to his trainer he's like this reminds me of leviticus yeah let me tell you about psalm 18 whatever the fuck i don't know anything about religion yeah he's like yeah it's my walk through the valley. You've heard this one? I'm going to keep going.

I got a whole thing here. Hold on. I got to get to the end of it once I start it, so you got to do. Yeah, he's basically crazy. Still walking away from fights and shit. 1978, three more fights, more non-linkers. This guy will not fight anybody decent. Later he will, but not for a while.

Fights Tony Moore, Gregory Johnson. More generic. These are so generic. They just took names and were like Johnson, Gregory, and put them together. They have a board of first names and last names. Like a meme generator or some shit. And Greg Sorrentino also. So there you go.

There's some flavor. Sixth round TKO, fourth round KO, and a first round knockout versus Sorrentino. So a minute 22nd and it's 27 into round one. So there you go, Trevor. Okay. Work it, work it.

He's 11 and 0. Looking for a decent opponent at this point. Now they're like, okay, let's see. Let's get him out there. 11 and 0. You got to get like 10 wins in boxing before anybody takes you seriously. April 3rd, 1979 at the Metro Center in Halifax, he fights Bernard Mercado of Columbia. Now he, Berbick had beat him as an amateur rather easily,

so he was probably a little cocky going into this fight. Mercado would eventually be 33-5-1. My God. He beat Ernie Shavers, who was a champ. He lost to Leon Spinks, and he also lost to Randall Tex Cobb, who was the motorcycle guy in Raising Arizona that we've discussed before. The guy with the bronze baby shoes hanging from his vest. Yeah, we looked at that guy because I so wanted him to be a criminal.

I'm like, this guy's so entertaining. I want him to be a criminal. He didn't do anything. We found so many things that he's been in, too. I want to frame him. I swear to Christ, just because it would be a perfect episode. And he won a lawsuit because somebody said something shitty about him and he sued him and won.

It's great. The guy has had an amazing career. Amazing life. Very few people know how amazing. He's very well off. He's got to be. Just look up Wikipedia of Randall Tex Cobb. It's the most interesting shit ever.

He's had a crazy life. The man was supposed to fight Muhammad Ali. It's crazy. It is. It's nuts. Speaking of Ali, we'll get to him soon. Let's see. With 15 seconds left in the first round, Mercado lands a clean shot and knocks Trevor out cold in this one.

Oh, wow. So this is just a lucky shot. One of those Haseen Rahman on Lennox Lewis knockout punches. He's 11-1 at this point. That's not great. It's your first non-link opponent. Your first linker is what you fought. You've had all Eugene Greens.

And you dropped that fucking left hand. One linker and you're out. That's not great. June 14, 1979, he's back again. He's in Winnipeg this time. All right. The garden center of the world. Oh, yeah.

Once you get over into Western Canada, that's when you... He's in the boxing capital of Manitoba. That's when it heats up right there. The boxing capital of Manitoba. Is that the only city in Canada that lost their hockey team? That's how little those people give a shit about watching sporting events? I think it is. It's just, it's very, it's not a large area, we'll say.

It's kind of Winnipeg, and there's really nothing else around it. And Winnipeg isn't exactly a real metropolitan area itself, so it's not great. Now, Trevor's 12-1 coming into this fight. He has a 10-round draw versus another non-linker. Ouch. So what are you doing here? Now, you lost a fight against a a linker so they put you back against the non-linkers and you're losing fine you're you're going the distance for a draw a drug and leroy caldwell which sounds like we need a random black guy name okay leroy caldwell perfect yeah that's uh so yeah

and then march 11th 1980 beats johnny war which is a great fucking name. Johnny War? Like W-A-R? R. Two R's. Oh, that's still kicking ass. Mr. War. Mr. War. That's a great boxing name.

It's so tough, I put two R's on it. He's a non-linker, though, so his name is the toughest thing about him. 80-81 for the rest of that. Pads his record for the next four fights as a first round knockout in a couple of the fights. It has his first fight out of Canada, actually. His first non-Canadian fight on January 31, 1981, versus Chuck Gardner, which is random white guy. We need a name.

There he is. This is in Kingston, Jamaica, so he's going home for this. That had to be a big deal for him. You'd think so. Yeah, I'm going home. Let's see, he gets a fourth-round TKO in this one. So the homecoming. Trevor, jerk chicken all around.

They're carrying him through the streets, chicken everywhere. He's 18-1-1. Unbelievable, this guy. That's a great record, really. 18-1-1 is fantastic. I'd love to be 18-1-1. Apart from the fucking names he's beat, still, 18 is pretty impressive. He'll beat some even more impressive names here.

Here's a fight against a very famous person coming up. April 11, 1981. Caesar's Palace in Vegas. Wow. That's a fight against a very famous person coming up. April 11th, 1981. Caesar's Palace in Vegas. Wow. That's the makeup. Now we're talking big time. No, it's not Winnipeg. It's not Halifax, Nova Scotia.

But, you know, it's something. It's something. He fights. It's not Winnipeg. He fights Larry Holmes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Larry Holmes, former champ. Started out as Ali's sparring partner.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Became a very great boxer. Very tall guy with a very good jab. And a weird-looking head. Oh, yeah. Giant square. Like very angular. Yeah, looks like a head that takes a good punch. Like a Lego head.

Yeah, a Lego head, yeah. You can take a good punch. I feel like the flatness of it makes it very flush for a punch. It's a bizarre head. It's a very bizarre head. How do you get a head like that? Being Muhammad Ali's sparring partner? Yeah.

He had a great head in his younger years. He used to be so handsome. He just beat it square. Like a fender that had a dent in it. He just hammered it out. Ali called him Blockhead. You know he did. And he meant it.

He wasn't even fucking around. He meant it. Come here, Blockhead. And he knocked him out. So this fight here is for the WBC and the ring heavyweight titles. Holmes and his career was 69 and 6. Started in 73 and had his last bout in 2002. Holmes won?

Yeah, Holmes boxed forever. Holy shit. There's no way he can speak anymore. No way. He drools and he smiles. He fought Tyson when he was like 40 or something. That's what I mean. Then he kept fighting for another 15 years after that.

Yeah, Holmes lost to Tyson, lost to Holyfield. He beat Muhammad Ali. Trevor loses a unanimous decision in 15 rounds to Holmes, and it wasn't even close. Larry's not a big knockout guy. He'll just jab the shit out of you for 15 rounds. And at that point, he's just toying around just to keep from getting knocked out. He's just batting you around and keeping the points up. He beat Burbick's ass, basically.

He thoroughly, soundly thumped him here. Berbick's ass, basically. He thoroughly, soundly thumped him here. Berbick goes to 18-2-1. Now he has a tune-up fight coming up here. July 21st, 1981. It's a second-round knockout against a guy named Conroy Nelson. This wins him the Canada Heavyweight Championship and the vacant

Commonwealth title. The most prestigious titles in sports, I would say. Did you say Conway Nelson? Conroy Nelson. Conroy. It still sounds like an amazing guitar player from some country band. Yeah, Crooner. I feel like those titles are right below the L.A. County amateur title.

Yeah. Yes, exactly. The title belts themselves actually came from the state fair for filling up a clown's head until it exploded. And they gave it to him. You either win a fight or you get a clown's head to explode. That's it. And they said, here you go. You're the pride of Canada and handed it over to Trevor Burbick.

Here's how we signify that. Now, December 11th, 1981, this is the big one, guys. This is the big one at the Queen Elizabeth Sports Center in Nassau, Bahamas. We'll find out why it's there in a moment because they wanted to have it in a bigger venue, but it wasn't allowed to be held in a bigger venue because he's fighting Muhammad Ali in this fight. He actually fought Muhammad Ali. This fight, because every Ali fight had to have a rhyming name, is called the Drama in Bahama. Okay.

Which, fine. You want to name something, name something. Don King came up with that? I'm sure he did. Actually, Don King did not promote this. We'll find out who promoted it because it's very interesting because he is also a criminal. All right. Worse than Don King, maybe, if that's possible.

Ali was coming off a loss last year to Larry Holmes. Holmes famously, this was the fight where Ali, this was the end of Ali's career against Holmes, second to last fight, and he was not in good shape. And Holmes was brought up where Ali this was the end of Ali's career against Holmes, second to last fight and he was not in good shape and Ali, Holmes was brought up by Ali as a sparring partner. This is the one famously where Holmes pulled punches and wouldn't hit him hard. Really? Ali wouldn't go down. He just, you

can't knock Ali out. And he just felt bad hitting him because he couldn't defend himself and he was just taking punches. And he's like, I'm not going to stand here. That's like his brother. Yeah, he would just kind of hug him a little and just jab a little. And you could tell he didn't want to hit him. It was really kind of weird. You said famously, and I didn't even know that.

I feel so stupid right now. Well, if you're a big boxing fan. I'm going to have to watch that fight just to feel sad for myself. You should. You will. You'll feel bad. Jimmy, you know what? I want you to feel bad about yourself.

Everybody tweet at Jimmy at Whisman Sucks and tell him that he's very, very pathetic for not knowing specific facts about a fight from December 11th, 1981. Jimmy, you're a real piece of shit, buddy. I was 11 months old. I should know that stuff. I'm turning your mic off. I'm turning your mic off for the next three minutes. It's a penalty. You can't. You're out. So Ali was slipping at this point badly, obviously. He lost two of his last three fights he comes into the fight Muhammad Ali claiming that his recent losses are not a result of slipping and physical decline but instead because his doctor gave him a thyroid medication that made him physically weak it wasn't

it wasn't that your brain is turning into pudding that's right okay so truth is Ali had a visit to the Mayo Clinic after the Holmes fight and he told them of tingling and trembling in his hands and slurred speech. So that's why several venues, Vegas, Atlantic City, all these venues refused to hold the fight because Ali was turning into a pudding man. And they were like, let's not make it worse. We'll have no part of that. We're not going to whip the pudding anymore than it already is. Let's keep it stiff.

You know what I mean? So they end up in the Bahamas where apparently anything goes. They don't give a shit. Nope. Come on down here. Beat your goddamn brains in. They don't give a shit. Nope, come on down here, beat your goddamn brains in. We don't care. In a pre-fight interview, Ali seemed very slow and not his usual witty self.

He was just kind of like, I don't know, like real slow. They were like, what the hell is wrong with Muhammad Ali? This was the beginning. And this fight makes it worse. Trevor batters him the whole ten rounds, just pummels him. And he's not his buddy, so he doesn't pull any punches. Ali just doesn't go down. He couldn't put up much of a fight. Ali should have gone down.

You want his trainer to do a wrestling move from the outside where he grabs the guy's foot as he comes near the rope. He falls down, holds it to the mat like one of those Bobby the Brain Heenan with Ultimate Warrior. So Trevor ends up winning a unanimous decision, though.

It goes all 10 rounds because Ali is a crazy person. This is the only time I've been uncomfortable on this show outside of defining and describing what happened to a victim. Because Muhammad Ali is so beloved. Yes. And I don't want to think. I've seen him in person a mess. And I don't even want to think about the beginning of what I saw because that's so just depressing that nobody stood in the way of him being

where he was to where I met him. There was silver-haired middle-aged white men there to make money. They were like, we don't care if he can't talk. He can make us a few dollars this one last time. Bastards. Where can we hold it? If Bahamas didn't do it, they wouldn't give a shit. They would have held it in South America. They don't care.

Wherever. Europe. Whoever will take this fight and make a few dollars off of this guy's. You don't hear a lot of stories about concert promoters being like, you know what? I could have made a mil on the thing, but he's having trouble with his wife. And I told him to stay home. Work it out. I said, hey, buddy, go to rehab. Get yourself straightened out. Get yourself together.

And then we'll talk. You got kids, for God's sake. Come on, buddy. Be a dad. Things are more important than money. Yeah. Never. Never. Not the silver-ha dad. Things are more important than money. Never. Not the silver-haired middle-aged white man ever.

Now, Ali, in a post-fight interview, this is kind of sad here because Ali always with the bravado and the bluster. This is his quote from the post-fight. Quote, Father Time has finally caught up with me and I'm going to retire. And I don't think I'm going to wake up next week and change my mind. I came out all right for an old man. We all lose sometimes. We all grow old. That's fucking sad to hear. That's

like watching a bear be declawed. He's just sitting there. He could have stopped with, I don't think I'm going to wake up next week. Just stop there because he's such a mess. He's still married to Jada Pinkett though, right? I believe he is. Yes. I was eating Will Smith this entire

time. She's a good woman for sticking by him, I've got to say, through all of this. Just the complete idiot. That's right. That's crazy. He looked so young and spry in Independence Day. I thought it was really... Apparently, just pudding brain. Couldn't speak, couldn't think.

Welcome to Earth was so perfectly delivered. What an actor. I'm going to give the director the credit for pulling that performance from a man who doesn't know where he is and can't speak a word. Who can't speak. I feel like he really put it in there. I mean, think about how many takes you'd have to get to get a clear line out of that guy. Holy shit, man. Drool cup, drool cup.

Yeah. Somebody take the glass out of his hand. We keep having the continuity. It's spilling out. The continuity is awful. Makeup, drool cup. Yeah. Somebody take the glass out of his hand. We keep having to... It's spilling out. The continuity's awful on this bad boy. Makeup, wipe his lip. Continuity's not going to work. So luckily, Ali never fought again after this.

Wow, that was his last fight. That's his last fight against this... That's his retirement speech. Trevor Burbick, and that's his retirement speech. Burbick is 22-2-1 and thinks he's hot shit now. Yeah. Also, because he just beat Muhammad Ali. I mean, this is... Even though he beat a shell of, obviously, Muhammad Ali.

The promoter of the drama in the Bahamas, as we'll get to now, the silver-haired, middle-aged white man of the group, is James Anthony Cornelius, who sounds like a scumbag. He sounds like a scumbag record producer, doesn't he? Yeah, I see homeless artists with platinum records in this you know what i mean and he's just sitting there collecting the money uh he's found to be a convicted felon which you can't be if you're a boxing promoter apparently and a current target of an fbi probe into bank fraud oh my god i like him he flees he fled his mansion this is january 18th 1982 he had fled his mansion about two weeks earlier and moved to

the Bahamas. So he just fled to the Bahamas, his whole family, all of his belongings, everything. When reached for comment, Mr. Cornelius, I love this quote. This is the ultimate like boxing promoter scumbag. I'll break your legs quote. He says, quote, you don't need to talk to me. You've talked to everyone in the state, so you don't need to talk to me. And I don't want you calling me. Understand? That's amazing. I just I don't want you calling me, understand? I'm like, that's amazing. I just, I don't want you calling me, understand? And he hangs it up. So gangster.

Oh, that's amazing, man. Everybody that ends a conversation with understand means fucking business. Understanding, yeah. You do what they say. The fact that most people just no comment. He wanted to talk to them to tell them that he's not going to talk to them. Like, listen, asshole.

You're going to know this. Now, 1982, things are at the top of their game. Everything's great for Trevor. He needs to get married, obviously, asshole, you're going to know this. Now, 1982, things are at the top of their game. Everything's great for Trevor. He needs to get married, obviously, right? That's the way. If things are going really bad or really well, get married, obviously. That's crime and sports rule number eight. Yeah, that's it right there.

He marries a woman named Nadine. They will eventually have four children together over the next eight years. Lucky her, having kids with this fucking guy. Next three fights, June 82 to May 83, all against linked opponents. Oh, okay. Actually, this time. Greg Page, who ended up being 58-17-1 at the Caesars at Caesars. Wow.

He fights in the Sands, Atlantic City. Wow. He fights S.T. Gordon at the Showboat in Vegas. So now these are real fights. Now he's a guy. Hey, he beat Ali. He wins those. He beats Greg Page in a unanimous decision.

Okay. Which isn't exactly the most riveting thing off of an Ali fight, and then loses to Snipes and to Gordon. Unanimous decisions in both. So now he's 22-4-1. That should wake him up a little bit, right? I mean, coming off the Muhammad Ali fight and acting like you're big shit, and then you win unanimous and then you lose two.

Like, that kind of lets you know that he has a habit his whole career of fighting up and down to opponents. Oh, yeah. He beats guys he shouldn't beat sometimes, and then he loses to guys he should kick the shit out of. I don't know. Usually we find this a lot with these kind of mentally wacky, unstable guys. They don't have a consistency to what they're doing. I don't know if it's mood swings. That's not a symptom of consistent training

and singular focus. No, exactly. That's it. I think that's the problem here. He's the Miami Dolphins of boxing. That's a good point. The Dolphins will beat the fuck out of the Patriots and then they'll go and lose to the Jets the next week. It's like, what are you doing? That's exactly what he is. Trevor Burbick.

That's a sad comparison. Sorry, Dolphins fans. Of Canadian boxing. Of Canadian boxing. So you can. The pride of Manitoba. That's his, that's his, yeah, the pride. It's his sister city is Miami.

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but Hollywood and the NFL. Follow Business Wars wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So November 8th, 1982, a son is born for Trevor. He's got a son now. Oh, boy. What do you think he names his son, guys? There's our junior.

Come on. Yeah, it's a junior, right? Trevor Anthony Burbick Jr. He's got to have a junior. He has to. He's like, I'm planning on fucking up badly in just a short amount of time. I have got to have a junior on my record. I cannot not do it.

September 83 to June 85, he wins his next six fights. So that's good. All against questionable opponents. They're all tomato cans. Two of them went the distance, so he's still not looking that impressive. June 15, 1985, he wins the USBA heavyweight title, though. He's the heavyweight champ of one of these shitty belt or holding organizations. He beats David Bay, who was an 18 and 11 career fighter.

So, you know, not that great. He's 28, four and one now, Trevor, and a champ. So now things are looking good. Now we have they talk to him at this point and they it's really weird that they're asking him, like, how do you serve? You seem like such you're a preacher and you're this and you're that. How do you survive in the jungle of boxing is what they ask him which is a stupid question and we have if a reporter asked a black guy that today that wouldn't work be fucking everywhere how dare yeah yeah ask that question you can't mention jungle how dare you yeah especially from jamaica there might actually

be exactly that's not great ridiculous he was from montreal you could say because he's never seen a fucking jungle but this guy may have actually been in a jungle layer. That's not great. It would be ridiculous. If he was from Montreal, you could say, because he's never seen a fucking jungle. But this guy may have actually been in a jungle at some point. A reporter on TV with their box and all their shit and had a dumb throat. In response, we have an in their own words. All right. Oh, in their own words. Quote, it's a mystery.

You laugh, but it's the truth. The truth is a mystery. One day, very soon, someone is going to write a book about my life and the mystery will be revealed. I should be dead and gone by now. It will be in the book. Unfortunately, Trevor, someone did write a book and this is the book. So be careful what you wish for, asshole, because this is your book. Good luck.

And that quote's in it. And that quote is in it. So there you go. Now, August 10th, 1985, he beats Mitch Blood Green. Mitch Blood Green is the guy who famously got his face basically annihilated by Mike Tyson in a street fight outside of a nightclub. Oh, yeah. In the 80s. Remember, one side of his face, normal man.

Other side of his face looked like the elephant man. Didn't Tyson break his hand on that guy's face? I don't think he broke his hand, but he broke Mitch Blood Green's face. The picture is outstanding. You're like, wow. One punch. It looked like he stuck his face out as a truck ran by and hit it. That's what it looks like. But the guy talks shit to Tyson

in line at a nightclub. And who's fighting Mike Tyson with no gloves on? Are you out of your fucking mind? I'm not fighting Mike Tyson with gloves on. No. He could have a pillow on his hand. I'm not fighting him either. I wouldn't have a pillow fight with him without his fist behind it. Well, this, he was calling him out in the street. They were at a nightclub

out in the street and Mitch Bloodgreen's going, he's a punk and he won't fight me and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I want was calling him out in the street. They were at a nightclub out in the street, and Mitch Blood Green's going, he's a punk and he won't fight me, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I want a rematch and all this shit, and got in Tyson's face. Apparently, Tyson was trying to be cool about it and be like, I'm not going to fuck him. I'm going to ignore this fucking guy

because I have a record as long as my leg, so I'm going to chill out. And then he just said, all right, never mind. I'm knocking him the fuck out. And that was that. That's nuts. And he also gets beat here. Mitch Bloodgreen.

Poor Mitch gets his ass kicked a lot. He must have some brain damage now because this is a 12 round decision here, a split decision. So he didn't really dominate Mitch Green here. It's at the Riviera in Vegas. Twenty nine, four and one for Trevor. Now, 1985, Trevor gets some excitement. All right. A little bit of excitement.

A divorce? No, no. I don't know how he didn't get divorced After this happened But 1985 in Halifax He is charged with sexually assaulting A 15 year old girl Oh my god In her home in Halifax

In her home? What was he doing there? I don't know All I can think Offering to help babysitters I am going to go out on a limb For something that comes up later that this is a babysitter. I have a feeling

it's a babysitter. Okay. There's not a lot of details on this because it's 32 years ago in Halifax, so I don't know. The media coverage maybe wasn't that great or whatever, but it's very sparsely covered. Like, this is... You've got to get deep to even find this existed. It's really

hardcore, but we'll find out the conclusion to that. But he was arrested. He's arrested for sexual assault of a 15-year-old, and it's going to go to trial and everything. It's pretty interesting. But that doesn't stop him from fighting again on March 22, 1986 at the Riviera. He fights Pinklin Thomas, who's actually a pretty damn good fighter. He's 43-7-1 for his career. This is for the WBC title.

Okay. This is like the main boxing title here for heavyweight champ. Trevor wins a 12-round unanimous decision, of course. Wow. So he's good at pointing people, apparently. A very Olympic style. And now he's the champ. Now he's the champ.

31-4-1. He's the champ, man. That's incredible. He's still married, right? He's still married. So she was like, yeah, it's okay. We don't make mistakes. Yeah, that's okay. Well, he was denying it. They were like, oh, that's all right. He's still married, right? He's still married. So she was like, yeah, it's okay. We don't make mistakes. Yeah, that's okay.

Well, he was denying it. They were like, oh, that's all right. She's 15. I'm sure she's a liar. I'm sure she doesn't, you know. When a dick comes out, she wouldn't know, I'm sure. So it's fine. You know, that's all it is.

And now she's telling everybody she was raped by the champ. Yes, exactly. Well, now she can. That's her new thing now. The champ raped me. Yes. There's a belt on that guy now. She gets to say that instead of burbick

it's not as prestigious well yeah you can point him out and be like he's the asshole guy with the belt yeah that's what works better uh so what happens here mike tyson this is the we're coming into this is when mike tyson 86 is becoming the phenom yeah this is if if you look on mike tyson knockouts on youtube and you can watch 21 of them in like four minutes. I've seen that video. And those are complete fights with intros and everything. And he just comes out and knocks a guy out in one punch. This is that time period.

This is when he was really like he was the next thing. And he was all set up to take over the crown. But to take the crown, he'd have to knock it off Mr. Burbick's head here. So they are scheduled to fight. Burbick is confident. They're going to fight in November of 86. He's confident. He says people don't know much about him, Burbick's saying.

He's like, hey, people don't really know what I do, which I don't know why they don't know what he do. He fought Muhammad Ali. Probably everybody saw that. But anyway, his trainer, Angelo Dundee, famous boxing trainer, he said, quote, this guy, Tyson, won't know what to do with Berbick because he won't know what he's doing himself. So basically he's like, Berbick doesn't even have a fight. He doesn't know what the fuck he's

doing out there. So Tyson will have a problem with that. That sounds overconfident. Berbick switched trainers here to Dundee before the fight after having a financial dispute with Eddie Futch, who was his first, that's a terrible last name too, F-U-T-C-H. Are you fucking kidding me? That sounds like a euphemism for fuck. I futchedged her good man i can't say it on tv burbick looks past tyson

at this fight he's not even talking about him he says he's gonna straighten out michael spinks down the road that's what he says i'm thinking about spinks because spinks was the other champ and he was talking about unifying later on which mike tyson ended up doing by after in the quick fight there 91 seconds or whatever. You don't overlook Tyson. No. You don't do that. He doesn't know that yet.

He didn't really get that. This is pre-YouTube. Yeah, he didn't have those videos. He wasn't able to watch a video and be like, oh, shit. Oh, wow, that's not going to work at all. Oh, God. So we have an in their own words about Tyson here also. He said something about Tyson?

Beforehand about the Tyson fight. He says, in their own words, quote, from what I know about fighting, the small part I know, I noticed that he knocks guys out. He gets the job done. I'm looking to take him out by round seven. I'm going to take him to school. I'm very relaxed about this fight. This is the best thing that's ever happened to me.

I love breaking those bubbles that have never been busted. I'm going to give him a good whipping, then knock him out. Oh, boy. So, yeah, that was probably a dumb thing to say. Piss this animal off on top of it. He definitely didn't do any of that. Not one thing of that. Jamaica versus Brooklyn didn't work out.

No, no. Halifax, Brooklyn showdown here. Jerk Chicken versus just Sewer Rat. Jerk Chicken versus Coney Island Hot Dog. Let's do this shit. It's on. The D water dog wins every time. Over a shopping cart barbecue jerk chicken. Oh, my God.

Oh, man. That's great. November 22nd, 1986 is the big night. It is at the Hilton in Vegas. Wow. Can't get any bigger than this. It was on HBO. This is versus Tyson, obviously.

This was a championship fight. Championship fight. This is Tyson's shot. This is everybody's like, this is this kid that obviously. This was a championship fight. This is Tyson's shot. This is everybody's like, this is this kid that we've all heard about. Everyone's excited about Tyson's 27-0 coming into the fight with 25 knockouts, most of them very quickly. And they're like, you know. But then at the beginning of the fight, everybody's looking at the tail of the tape going, he's 6'3". That's the thing.

He's 5'9". How's this even going to be a fight? I think he had a 6-inch reach advantage on Tyson, too. I mean, like that, it was very like, ooh, Tyson's going to— It's not even close, you guys. Stop even giving Tyson a chance. Some people were picking Berbick, actually. Of course.

Yeah, odds dropped for Tyson the day before. The day before, Tyson was only a 3-1 favorite. So that's pretty close, actually, compared to—it was like 8-1 a couple weeks before that. This is Tyson's shot to become the youngest heavyweight champ ever, beating Floyd Patterson's record. Tyson is fined $5,000 for wearing black trunks in this one. His burbick was wearing black trunks, and the champ gets to pick what color, and you have to wear the other, a different color. And Tyson said, go fuck yourself. Oh, that's great.

He made like $1.5 million. He's like, I want five grand's fine. You can wear your trunks, and I won't wear them. Oh, man. I did that. I'm going to buy black tr million. He's like, I want five grand's fine. You can wear your trunks and I won't wear them. Oh, man. I did that. I'm like, I'd like the black trunks. That's a good Tyson, actually. That's not bad at all.

That's not awful. I like that. Tyson, when the fight starts, he looks like he's ready to kill. Oh, yeah, because that guy just cost him five grand is what Tyson is thinking. Because Tyson's a crazy person. He is focused. You can tell. His eyes don't move.

He's locked on Berbick. He's walking back and forth looking like he wants to kill. Berbick't move he's locked on burbick he's walking back and forth looking like he wants to kill burbick looking like he's like trying to figure out what's like he just walked into a club he's never been to before and he's like where's the bathroom i can't find it like he's looking around do i get a drink over there do i order it here yeah you know he doesn't know what the fuck to do basically it looks like burbick is jumping back from punches like he'll come in and punch and then jump away like okay when you're scared of something like like you were swatting at a bee, swat it and then jump back.

Like, hey, I hope it doesn't sting me. Like a snake with a stake. Yeah, exactly. Tyson's all aggression. He's just forward, forward, forward. God, I love watching him punch. He was the best to watch in that era. Oh, my God.

So fun. It's the best thing to watch. His step punch is incredible because you can see the power go. Like in video games when you press the power meter and watch it go up. You can see the punch coming. You can watch the power. It's coming from his legs. The muscle flex delivery is so incredible.

It is. It is so tough. Jimmy sounds like he's turned on by Mike's muscle flex delivery. I am Mike Piazza enjoying that body. Yeah, you are. You're like, look at you, Otis. Look at that booty. Jimmy's pants are so tight right now.

They are. Just the crotch. Just the crotch. Glistening over there. I like it. So, yeah, Trevor's throwing wild punches. He's trying to throw flurries. He's trying to be like, I'll stand here.

I'm not afraid of you. But he's throwing flurries and kind of looking goofy. You see this a lot in Tyson fights. The guys don't look their normal selves. They look a little off and a little jerky. His rhythm was so different. His rhythm's different. He's shorter and his punches are so.

Usually it's like, well, if I see a punch coming, I can take it. But with him, it's like, still might not be able to take it even if I know it's coming. His punch was so short. Yeah, that's the thing. So powerful. Quick, short, Joe Frazier left hook, which we're going to find out about in gonna find out about like that three inch punch from from uh bruce lee that yeah yeah it's just like that that's tyson's hook so powerful uh he barely survives the first round but he's getting pummeled when they go to the corners you know in between yeah yeah burbick looks like it's round

11 he's like oh jesus they're working on his eyes They're rubbing shit on him. Tyson's just sitting there calm like he's ready to smoke a cigarette and hang out and talk to some girl in the front row and smack Robin Gibbons. Who knows? So round two. Round two, Tyson comes out swinging. He is not fucking around at this point. He's like, I'm pissed this thing went past the first round. I'm

kicking this guy's ass. He knocks the shit out of Berbick in the second round. It's very, he knocks him down. Berbick in the second round it's very it's very he knocks him down burbick pops back up like oh it's cool i'm all right and then they kind of they're in close and tyson hits him with this left hook that you need a replay to see basically because it's so fucking fast it looks like he just kind of rubbed his quickly just like rubbed his glove on burbick's face and burbick there's like a second and a half delay and then burbick just hits the ground it's one of those where it took a second and then he's just out yeah he's like

what was he actually had to register what happened for his body to be like we need to shut down yeah we need to lay down he takes this little hook and then it's just boom tree trunk falling down and then he tries to get up and it's like you know baby deer like he his face looks like I'm getting up but his legs are he gets up and falls back down. It's one of those where he can't get up. He gets up, and the ref's like, no, no, no, pal. This is over with. We don't want to.

Be happy I'm calling this thing. You're going to get killed. Save your energy. You're going to need it to deliver the belt to that man. Absolutely. So they call it. It's a TKO at two minutes and 35 seconds in round two. TKO.

So now Tyson's the champ, and Berbick is the guy who got the shit knocked out of him by Tyson. He's the guy who the guy beat, basically. That's his claim to fame. He's always known as the bridge between Ali and Tyson. He's the guy who fought Tyson and then lost the belt to Ali. So that's kind of his claim to fame that everybody knows. Kind of brutal.

Kind of brutal, yeah. It's nice to actually say the original I beat Ali, but there's always that asterisk that it's his last fight. It's his last fight. And the shit he said after that fight indicates that you didn't necessarily win. He's still the toughest man in Winnipeg. Yeah, still definitely. So he's still got some cachet around there.

He can hold his head up high walking around the streets of Winnipeg. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. We have an in their own words from Berbick on the Tyson fight. He's basically saying, what the fuck happened, dude? And he says in their own words, quote, they were funny punches. They came from funny directions. I still can't believe I got caught.

I was trying to prove I could stand there and take his best shot. You're a dumb motherfucker because that's not. Did you watch those other? Did they show you film? What is wrong with you? You don't want to take his best shot. No're a dumb motherfucker because that's not... Did you watch those other... Did they show you film? What is wrong with you? You don't want to take his best shot. No, you really don't. Post, Jesus, after the fight, this is when his crazy really starts coming out.

From now on, he is crazy all the time. We got past all his fighting. Crazy time from now on. He tells people that Berbick does that this is one of the reasons this is unreal. One of the reasons why he lost the fight was that there wasbick does, that this is one of the reasons, this is unreal, one of the reasons why he lost the fight was that there was a paralyzing gas that had been pumped into his hotel room for days before the fight.

Get the fuck out. He says this in public. Damn you, Don King, you're paralyzing gas. Yeah, paralyzing gas. He thinks, I know Don King's a prick, but he's not a fucking comic book villain. Wow. Yeah, he's not H.H. Holmes pumping fucking gas into his thing. You can listen to a Time Suck episode

a couple weeks ago on H.H. Holmes. Very, very entertaining stuff. His trainers say that he read too much. That's their excuse. He read too much. Carl King, who is Don King's son and also Burbick's manager, who takes a healthy cut of this fight's money,

by the way, he says, quote, he read too many newspapers while he was training up here. He read stories that said he wouldn't be able to stand up to Mike's punches, and it became a manhood thing with him. He got in there and tried to prove something that he didn't have to prove. No shit.

Yeah. Like, you can't take a punch from Mike Tyson, you jackass. And then you can't breathe nerve gas and then go fight a professional boxing match. Clearly not. That's the truth. Now, February of 87, a couple months later, the Nevada State Athletic Commission's holding a hearing to see if Don King ripped off Trevor for the Tyson fight. He was, Trevor was supposed to make $2.1 million, but King took a million of that.

$500,000 to Carl King, Don's son, to manage, and then another $500,000 in advances that he gave to Burbick. Burbick was so pissed off about this, he says, I'm sure Don King said, hey, be pissed off about this and do this, that he flew all the way there to tell them that they were wrong. He flew from Vegas to Miami to say, no, this is wrong, or from Miami to Vegas. He said, quote, I got all the money that was coming to me. I paid him back. He gave it to me interest-free.

Well, that Don King's a real peach, isn't he? A real nice guy, I'm sure. It's all a big misunderstanding. Yeah, it's just a big misunderstanding. I meant to transfer $5,000 to my account. It was $5,000. $5,000. Okay, all right.

My bad. I didn't put the period. That's what happened. I should have put that period. I'll get me next time. I'll get me next time. It's no big deal. It's just to put it on the tally.

That's a shitload. That's the biggest commission I've ever heard of. It's usually 15, right? Yeah, I know. Not 15. He got 25%. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Carl King got 25% for managing. And then, yeah. Unbelievable. And I guess they're saying, too, the commission was saying how you're only allowed to give like 100,000 at the time in advances. And anything above that, the commission would have to approve to make sure that you're not paying a guy off to throw the fight, I assume, would be the only reason why they would give

a fuck what anybody does, I think. But rest of 87, he wins three fights all against non-linkers, trying to build his confidence back up. Two TKOs and a unanimous decision. Gets his record up to 34-5-1, so it sounds good. It does sound good. Sounds good. He beats Ali.

You know, you put his profile in a newspaper, he looks okay. At church, though, boy, he's getting into church now, hardcore. He's preaching. He is preaching at the Moments of Miracles Pentecostal Church in Vegas. A Pentecostal church in Vegas is pretty funny, by the way. A lot of blue hair there. Yeah, that's all there is. And like ex-Mormons, maybe.

But like bright blue hair, like that Trinity Broadcasting Network type. Yes, that type, yes. Played up hair. A lot of sequins. Flammable from a distance, these women, all of them. Yes, that type, yes. Played up hair. A lot of sequins. Flammable from a distance, these women. All of them, yeah. Lots of Dave Ramsey listeners, shit like that. Yeah, I would agree with you there, definitely.

A lot of people with Hubble figurines in their homes. Just praying for their money back. That's what they're doing. I collect thimbles. Have you seen my spoons? Have you seen my spoons? Have you seen my spoons? They're from all over the world. I've got buttons from Germany.

Buttons. Buttons. Whenever anyone goes anywhere, I say, pick me up a spoon. Well, they do. It's great. As long as it's got the city's name on it. It's beautiful. I love it.

I actually had an aunt that was like 100 years old that had a million spoons from everywhere. I know the exact type. I had an aunt who was into spoons. Really? What is it with that? She's got it now. She's got a fucking case on her wall with those tiny fucking spoons, and every handle has – who fucking knows?

When I was a kid, I used to say, can I use one of those spoons? And she'd say, no. And I'm like, why do you have all those fucking spoons then? It's the female equivalent of the gift shop shot glass for men. Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to use it. I'll shot glass for men. Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to use it. I'll put it up there. The shotgun shell.

Yeah, shut up. I just wanted some Cocoa Puffs. I'm like, can I have that? No, you can't. All right, fine, whatever. So 1988, Trevor loses a decision to Carl the Truth Williams, who got the shit knocked out of him by Mike Tyson. We've mentioned him so many times. Yeah, a lot of these boxers, it's like this big, they're just a circle jerk in the late 80s.

They all fought each other. There's the same, like, six heavyweights. He wins a third-round KO against a non-linker named O.T. Davis after that. O.T. Davis, which, I don't know, Ossie Davis was probably a better fighter than this fucking guy. He has no idea who this guy was. 35-6-1 at this point, so building it up. February 25th, loses a unanimous decision

to Buster Douglas in 1989, a year before Douglas would go on to beat Mike Tyson. So he's really Berbick is all, he's got his finger in everything, basically. Every jerk chicken pie, he's got his finger stuck in there. He's making good money throughout all this. He's making decent, these are all big fights.

Decent money, the Tyson fight, we know he walked away with a million there. I mean, who knows how much Don King is taking in advances out of this. Enough to keep Don King around, though. If he wasn't making any money, Don King would fucking split. You know that. Don King also, when he was being investigated for all sorts of shit, he was under federal investigation. He said Burbick would show up at his door every day in Vegas.

He'd come and knock on his door with his Bible and his cross in his hand and start quoting Bible verses to Don King. I picture him like interspersing Bible verses with like, where's my fucking money? And like Corinthians. Half a million. 15-3. And the Lord said, where's my fucking money? The Lord's like, just constantly. The Lord said, you owe me half a million, motherfucker.

I mean, love your brother. Awful, man. So May 5th, 1989, the Halifax sexual assault comes to a head here. Oh, yeah. They're in court. They have a trial. Trevor is found not guilty of sexually assaulting the now 19-year-old girl in 1985. The judge in the case said there was way too many inconsistencies in the 19-year-old's

testimony and that he didn't think she was a credible witness. What an asshole. Yeah, the judge. I mean, I get it. Inconsistencies, that kind of fucks things up. But she was 15. What do you expect? You expect her to know every fucking detail and be able to spit that out at will when

the champion of boxing raped you? Devil's advocate. She could have been a gold digger. She's this guy going up for real, you know? Was her last name King? Do we have that? Do we have that? You know what it's like for a girl growing up in Halifax.

You know what I mean? You see the glitch and the glamour and you just, you know how it is. What's your name? Trailer Park Boys? Yeah, exactly. I think that's supposedly set in Halifax. That would make a lot of sense. Yeah.

You know, it was her ticket. This girl was from the neighborhood, maybe. Oh, we're so terrible. It was her ticket to Winnipeg. Her ticket to the of sense. Yeah. You know, it was her ticket. This girl was from the neighborhood, maybe. Oh, we're so terrible. It was her ticket to Winnipeg. Her ticket to the big time. Yeah. Ticket out to Manitoba, baby. Oh, my God.

Unreal, man. So, yeah. This poor girl. This poor girl, as he did it. If he did it. If he did it. If he did it. I'm going to go out on a limb because of future events.

I'm going to say he's fucking guilty. Okay, now I feel bad. Because this is a pattern. This is a pattern. No, she still wanted to go to Winnipeg. Don't feel bad for that, Dan. There's probably some ulterior motives, but she definitely earned her keep. She probably was, too.

Okay, she probably was raped. Jesus. Yes. After this, I feel actually bad. Imagine that, too. You went through this for four years, and now you're told to go fuck yourself. God, it hurts. Now it hurts.

Trevor says he's relieved about the case, but he's mad because it robbed him of his concentration and cost him millions of dollars for fights. Yeah. Has he been not fighting because of this? No, he's been fighting. We've been going over all these fights. He's full of shit. There's plenty of fights, sir. Yeah.

1990, Trevor and Nadine separate. Uh-oh. His wife here, and they're not going to get back together, and they're going to have some rocky times. 1990 in July and December, he beats two non-linkers so who gives a shit 37 7 and 1 is his record 1990 still he moves down to florida and this is when shit gets interesting boy this is when he's really i don't know something in the water down there florida and arizona i don't understand it half of our crimes take place in florida and arizona i know it's because a lot of retired athletes move there.

Oh, yeah. And that's why they're there. But, I mean, they're attracted to it for some reason. I don't know. I like to call Arizona West Florida. Okay. It's very similar. We just haven't fucked up an election yet.

Give us time. Give us time. We will. We just vote the same way every time over here anyway. Give us time. He finds another woman to marry, though, because you've got to get right back on the horse. Things are starting to go a little slippery for you. You've got to be married. Yep. You find a new woman to marry, though, because you've got to get right back on the horse. Things are starting to go a little slippery for you. You've got to be married.

You find a new woman to marry. Has three more children with this woman. He has seven kids? Seven kids. Oh, my God. Seven. He is awfully— Oh, my God.

Yeah, he's into it. That sounds horrible. Yeah, that does sound horrible. Jesus. Seven kids, an ex-wife, a new wife. You live in Florida. It's very sticky. There's bugs everywhere.

You're dreaming of Winnipeg. It's a bad time for us. I just picture him sitting in a basement watching the ali fight on like vhs over and over and over again you know i have a cocktail like that that was great he's got a tape of the tyson fight but it's never been touched there's cobwebs on it like i don't want to see that that was great boy that was a great fight yeah here's one of those each child as they're coming up to yeah this one's too old it recognizes that i'm a piece of shit let's fucking have another one because i gotta show i gotta be an influence on somebody he unravels so badly right now that it's like it has to be

florida like everywhere else he was semi-fine except for halifax with a 15 year old girl but here this gets bad now march of 1990 trevor tracks down a man that he believes is having an affair with his now ex-wife. And he called it having an affair. That's not an affair. It's your ex-wife. That's just a guy she's seeing because you guys got a divorce because you fucked 15-year-olds. And you've got a new wife.

Why are you worrying about what she's doing? Don't know. It's not an affair anymore. Trevor tracks this guy down, beats him pretty unmercifully because, I mean, even he's better than a non-link. This guy's worse than a non-link fighter. You know what I mean? This is some regular guy. He's not going to stand up to you.

This is somebody he can knock out. Oh, yeah. He can actually get a first-round KO on this guy. It's not going to go the distance. He beats him and holds a knife to his throat, trying to get him to admit to having an affair with his wife. This does not go over well with the police, who charge him with aggravated assault, obviously, because he's a psychopath. So there you go.

November 7th, 1990, Trevor is arrested in Florida again. Wow. This time, holy shit. This is insane. He drags a friend of his ex-wife out of her job at gunpoint. What? She works at a bank in Pembroke Pines. He goes into her job at the bank and drags her out at gunpoint. What? She works at a bank in Pembroke Pines. He goes into her job at the bank and drags her out at gunpoint.

This is insane. He's really accelerated this crime. This is nuts, man. You go from sexual assault of a minor to beating the shit out of a man holding a knife to him and then dragging someone out. A bank with a weapon. You don't do that shit. Number one. That's federal charges already. And now you're going, you're dragging a woman out

holding her at gunpoint and demanding that she tell you where your ex-wife has moved because she won't give you her new address. So because she's obviously afraid of you because you're a nutcase who holds knives to people's throats and does shit like this. That's your ex-wife. Why do you care? Unbelievable. I don't understand.

He's clearly got some control issues, I feel like, this guy here. So he does all this. He's charged with false imprisonment, aggravated assault, and possession of a firearm and commission of a felony for this one. So that's not a good list of charges. You don't want to really be on that list, I don't think. 1991, what the fuck is he thinking here? I don't know why this must have been a payday.

I don't know what he's thinking, but he goes to Japan for what he thinks is a wrestling match. He thinks he's going to work a fake wrestling match. Remember Ali and Inoki in the 70s? They did a big thing. Muhammad Ali fought Antonio Inoki, who's the godfather of Japanese wrestling there. And they fought, and it was a boxer versus wrestler match. And it was one of the first big closed circuit things.

They did satellites to it, and they were kind of working on that. And basically, Inoki lied on his back the entire time, kicking at Ali's legs. circuit things like they did satellites to it and they were kind of working on that and uh basically uh enoki lied on his back the entire time kicking at ali's legs and it was the most boring thing ever and ali ended up getting blood clots in his legs got kicked repeatedly in the legs yeah he had blood clots in his legs it was a nightmare and it was the most boring thing ever too it was like not a good fight yeah but now the 91 that he thinks he thinks he's going over for like he's going to be a wrestler, basically. They're going to do a boxer versus wrestling thing,

and it's going to be a work thing. And he thought that he had the whole plan, and he knew it was going on. He's fighting a guy named Nobo. I'm sorry if I butcher this. If people know who he is, I don't give a shit, because he's not really that important in our story. But Nobo Hiko Takata. Takata starts kicking his legs right away. He starts going

after Trevor's legs. It's actually Takata. Takata. I wanted to say Takata. Damnata starts kicking his legs right away. He starts going after Trevor's legs. It's actually Takata. Takata. I wanted to say Takata. Damn it. Shit. So Trevor starts getting kicked in the legs. Trevor just raises his arms up and goes to the ref like, what the fuck is going on? Basically, he's like, that's not what he's supposed to do.

He's motioning above the waist. Shit's supposed to be above the waist. What the fuck, basically. This guy just keeps kicking his legs. Trevor's not fighting back. He's. Shit's supposed to be above the waist. What the fuck, basically. This guy just keeps kicking his legs. Trevor's not fighting back. He's just stopping and like turning to his corner and looking like, what the fuck? What are the rules? He doesn't know the rules of the fight?

He's not doing what we planned, basically. Like, we were supposed to come in and he was going to put me in a headlock and we'd do this. And now he's kicking my fucking legs and it hurts. Like, what's going on here? Right, right. So Trevor's not fighting back. He's just complaining. He doesn't know what he's doing. He keeps up the leg kicks, this guy. He's attacking him. Trevor's complaining. he doesn't know what he's doing he keeps up the leg kicks this guy he's attacking him trevor's complaining as he turns to complain

this guy kicks him in the head oh my god he's like and he's still not fighting back though he's still looking around going why is this happening the guy starts kicking his legs again and finally trevor's like fuck this and just walks out of the ring and leaves that's it fights over we both got wrong scripts what happened apparently we're not on the same page here. I don't know what it is. He's just kicked for a while and then leaves. I got wrong sides, I guess. I don't know what's going on here.

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April 8th, 1991, after this disastrous Japan trip, he comes back home. This is in Hollywood, Florida. This is one of the most fun things I've heard about on this show. Okay. Larry Holmes has a fight in Hollywood, Florida. It's his first fight, Holmes' first fight, since losing to Tyson a few years ago. It's his big comeback.

By the way, Holmes has a son who's a junior also. Just thought I'd share that with everybody. So we know we're dealing with two guys who named their sons junior here. Is Holmes on the up and up, though? Is he okay? Holmes is fine. He's a little mushy, but he's okay. He's better off than Ali.

I'll tell you that much. His head's still a tight block. It is. It is. He didn't get hit as much as Ali. He's a tall guy with a long jab, so he'd just keep you away. He wasn't a guy who took a lot of big shots. But, I mean, no criminal record, right?

I don't think so. Nothing to speak of. Nothing that's crime and sports worthy. You know, something like that. Maybe if we did a quickie episode or something forgot to forgot to pay for sneakers for sneakers in a gas station not a deep dive here but holmes knocks out tim doc anderson in the first round that night why does that matter to our story you wonder i do you do well let's let's get into it burbick like we said is living in florida he attended the fight and also attended the post

fight press conference at the Diplomat Hotel. Now Larry is asked at the press conference if he's going to fight Trevor again because he's fucking there. So they thought this would be interesting to ask. Holmes says no. He says, quote, I don't like his attitude. I beat him 15 of 15 rounds. Maybe he won one round. Fuck

that guy basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Burbick's pissed. He's in a suit and tie though. He's in a hotel conference, in a press conference. He leaves quietly. You know, he's not going to cause a scene in there, right? He goes into the lobby, and then he causes a scene in there, obviously, like a gentleman. You know what I mean? Like a gentleman.

Holmes, Jesus Christ. Apparently, Holmes also owns a home in Florida. He lives in Pennsylvania, but he also owns a home in Florida. Trevor says that Larry Holmes set him up in some way to destroy his marriage. He's blaming Larry Holmes for everything now. Oh no. Larry hears about this. He's upstairs talking to reporters. He hears what's going on. He just bum rushes through the

reporters onto the elevator to go down and confront Trevor Burbick. So now we've got these two giant monsters who are going to fight in a hotel lobby, which is fucking insane. One who's clearly obsessed with his ex-wife and blaming it on the man that just fought and the other guy who's been in training and just fought a fight that night and knocked somebody out and has beat you 15 out of 15 rounds fucking prime too he's literally

as good as he's gonna get he could go another 10 rounds larry holmes you know uh so this is what trevor burbick is screaming we have an in their own words of his insane rantings here in their own words quote he used his sweetheart to mess up my married life jenny from jacksonville jenny from jacksonville i got proof and tapes all the problems i have are through him are through him my kids are suffering too what blaming everything on him he's claiming that holmes set him up some way with some girl to destroy his marriage he fucked some and his wife found out about it. It's Holmes' fault. It's Holmes' fault. It's Holmes' friend who set him up and he said,

I know I beat this guy like 10 years ago, but I'm going to fuck with him more. I want you to go over there, suck his dick good, and then tell his wife about it. Okay, perfect. This is the best public meltdown ever too, and this is before TMZ, so nobody got to see this, and that's a goddamn shame. It gets better, and there is video oh god someone record because there's a million press people

there it's a press conference has happened it's still out is it on youtube i can't wait to see this it's on you gotta search i love the homes better to do no the guy's just some random dude he beats one of many yeah but he's gonna focus like how do i ruin that guy's life further yeah how do i further humiliate him maybe he was the one who put the paralyzing gas in his hotel room. Yes, yes. I can see that. Oh my God, Larry Holmes,

you son of a bitch. This blockhead crawling through the AC vents. I know it. I can see it. Like a Scooby-Doo episode. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to get him.

His blockhead wouldn't fit in those vents. My head fits perfectly through that. You see a square peg in a square hole. That's what he's doing. Trevor rips his wife's head off

and it's Larry Holmes' head in his head this whole time. This whole damn time. God head off, and it's Larry Holmes' head. This whole time. This whole damn time. God damn it. Damn it. You crazy kids. How'd you have four kids?

Fuck. So, Larry finds Trevor in front of the hotel. The craziness hasn't even happened yet. That was just the prelude here. A valet, Victor Stevenson, of the hotel. We have a quote here from him that describes the action at this point. He says, quote, Larry Holmes came rushing out. He kicked and punched Burbick and Burbick ran onto the street.

Larry Holmes kept kicking and punching him. Larry Holmes is just attacking him into the street. Kicking and punching him into the street. I just picture him just growling wildly. If you get a boxer to kick at you, you've really pissed him off. That's not even his weapon of choice and he's coming at you with it. He's throwing all training out the window. He heard about the Japanese fight.

He knows he can't handle a kick. Yeah, he's like, I'll kick his legs. I'll kick his legs. Kick his legs. Oh, my God. So police separate the two lunatics. How'd you like to have that task? Here's two heavyweight, former heavyweight champions that are fighting each other in the street.

Why don't you get in between them? Yeah, thanks, asshole. The new guy, the new guy. Johnny, go get him. Go do that. This is worth 21 grand a year, sure. Proof that cops don't kill all black people. Yeah, go out there.

Don't kill either one of them. So things calm down for a moment after the police are, you know, they calm down. They separate, you know. Everybody goes their separate ways. Burbick's in the street. Holmes is on the sidewalk uh and then out of nowhere holmes jumps up on a parked car and runs across two other parked cars and leaps onto trevor burbick off of the top of a car like a superfly fucking spider-man like a fucking lunatic that's amazing picture larry holmes the giant man my god him

flying off a car is the greatest thing I've ever heard in my life. Flies off a car, tackles Burbick into the street, and begins just whooping his fucking ass on the ground like a sixth grade school yard fight. Like a purse thief. That's awesome. That's like some Grindhouse action movie. It's amazing. Robert Rodriguez character. That's insane.

We'll get this ex-boxer in here, have him jump on people's cars. That shit's going to be great. Incredible. He'll have a sword for an arm. We're going to have him run with two cars, fly through the air. Sword for an arm. Unbelievable, man. How is that not everywhere?

Everyone needs to see that video. That's incredible. It's great. You have to do a deep search for it, but it's out there, man. God, I want to see that so bad. So he's pummeling him. The police again break them up. They get in there, and now you're again break them up. They get in there.

And now you're pulling these guys off. They pull them off. Trevor shouts, Larry Holmes punched me. Everybody saw him kick and punch me. He's like setting up legal precedent over here. Somehow no arrests are made out of this. I don't know how. I guess they're just like, Holmes is fired up from his fight.

We'll give him a pass on diving off of cars on the people. Larry Holmes picked up a rickshaw and hit him with it, right? Is that what happened next time? That's exactly what happened. Unreal, man. I love that story. That's a great fight. That's one of my favorites. They fought 10 years before that. That fight's way more exciting than the one they had

in the ring. That's incredible. It absolutely is. That's what they should have had in the ring. I'd pay to watch that. In a second, I'll watch it on pay-per-view. Yeah, I'd pay to watch that. In a second. I'll watch it on pay-per-view. I won't even have to be there. And now Holmes has beat him for 16 rounds. Yeah, that's the other thing.

He's got a full 16-round victory. I beat him 16 out of 16 rounds. So June 19th, 1991, this is when things get really, really, really bad for Trevor. And this is why I think he actually was guilty of the thing in Halifax there. Trevor is arrested at his home in Miramar, California, and we're going to talk about that home and how he bought it in about a few minutes here. Oh, boy. In Miramar, Florida, on charges of sexual battery and burglary with an assault.

Fuck. Not great. Police say that on October 30th, 1990, Trevor went over to his 26-year-old family babysitter's house. This woman had worked for the family. Her name, they didn't want to put her name out there a lot. It's out there, but I'm not going to say it because I don't think she wanted it out there. So we don't need it. She's 26 years old.

She worked for the family for about two and a half weeks. And Trevor was going over to her house to pay $480 that he owed her, that the family owed her for babysitting. That's a lot of fucking babysitting. Yeah. In 91? She's, that's a. At 10 bucks an hour? That's about what you paid him then, right?

I have, I. If you're the champ, I guess probably 20, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta, you gotta give some incentive. A little bit, yeah. Wow. Well, he should have paid her a little more than that. Still, that's a lot of hours.

Yeah. Yeah, well, he should have paid her more than that for what he did here, because he's a fucking asshole. He goes over there, he's, he's. He basically said that he raped her over there. That's the deal. He said that? No, that's what she says. Okay.

The police have done an investigation up to this point. I'm just saying, if a guy actually says, I raped her over there, it was way worse than that. Yeah, it must have been horrible. She's probably dead at that point. Police say that at this point they've tested and they have his DNA and both saliva and semen from the scene. So that's a pretty good sign right there. That's not exactly a he said, she said.

Burbick denies any wrongdoing, of course. He's a victim here, as always. Paralyzing gas. Larry Holmes raped her. I don't know, something. It was Larry Holmes. Larry Holmes grabbed his dick and used it for the raping. Exactly.

And the girl in Jacksonville set it all up. Damn you, Larry Holmes. Actually, when he was done raping her, he pulled a mask off her head and it was Larry Holmes. It's like, fucking Larry again. Damn you. So we have an in their own words. 17 rounds now.

17 now. Chalkboard. Unbelievable. He's just notching his championship belt. That's all he's doing. Another hole. So we have an in their own words on the rape charge. I love when they respond to rape charges. It's just notching his championship belt. That's all he's doing. Another hole. So we have an in their own words on the rape charge. I love when they respond to rape charges.

It's crazy. In their own words, quote, hey, I'm not an abusive person. I didn't hurt that girl. She knows this. My wife got upset and didn't know what she wanted to do, so she told a lie. His whole thing. Larry Holmes ruined his marriage. This is all his wife's fault, he's saying.

This has nothing to do with him. His wife went off and made some shit up, even though there's DNA evidence of this whole thing. But this doesn't stop him. This is he's arrested in June on these pretty heavy charges after being arrested on other heavy charges of holding a dragging a woman out of a fucking bank and gunpoint.

Yet still August 2nd, 1991. He's got another fight. What the fuck? You'd think he'd be busy. How do they not lock him up and hold him for a bit? I have no idea. He's got money at this point. Probably he's got another fight. What the fuck? You'd think he'd be busy. How do they not lock him up and hold him for a bit? I have no idea. He's got money at this point, probably. He's a champ. He can bond out.

You know, if you have a decent lawyer and money for bail, you can get out of shit pretty much. You've got a lot of legal troubles to pay for right now. A lot. They're mounting. They're mounting. This fight is in France, actually. I don't know if that's the only place.

There was no heat over there. Maybe, like, they don't know shit. I can't believe they didn't at least take his passport from him. France? Well, rape is fine in France. People look up to that. That'll sell more tickets over there. Maybe like, they don't know shit. I can't believe they didn't at least take his passport from him. France, rape is fine in France. People look up to that. That'll sell more tickets over there.

Isn't that where, what's his, that's the director, Roman Polanski? Did he end up in France for a while? Oh shit, I don't even know.

When you said that, I was like, maybe they do have a little relaxed policy. In Europe, in Europe, yeah, sex with young girls

is considered okay back then. I don't know about forcing yourself on a 26 yearyear-old girl, but I think it was still frowned upon less in France probably. So let's go over there. Oh, the French. The French. He fights a guy named Garing Lane.

It's an eight-round fight, so it's not even like a major fight here. He can't knock out Garing Lane here. He wins a decision, a unanimous decision anyway. So 38-7-1. This is going to be his last fight for a while. For a little while because we have before the trial though we have another thing here.

In 1991 at the end, after this fight, he's arrested for assault again after he attacks his business manager, a woman named Novelette Hance, and holds a gun to her head in her office. Yeah, holds a gun to her head in her office. Yeah. Holds a gun to her head demanding that she that he return that she returned forty thousand dollars that he she stole from him allegedly.

Wow. That never came out that she actually stole anything just that he's a crazy motherfucker. Well Larry Holmes put her up to that. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Larry. She's working for Holmes.

Yeah. Well Larry Holmes in his mind it could is it could be Larry Holmes, in his mind, it could be Larry Holmes, actually, in some of his things here now. Because December 29th, 1991, Trevor is convicted of misdemeanor assault for the attack on the wife's friend that he dragged out of a bank. Misdemeanor assault? What the fuck is a felony at this point? Seriously. And this isn't a plea. This is a fucking jury.

By gun from a bank. With a weapon. Yeah. This is a fucking jury gun from a weapon. Yeah, he was a jury acquitted him on charges of armed kidnapping and aggravated assault and only convicted him on misdemeanor assault. He has a gun and he dragged her from a place she wanted to be into a place she didn't want to be. That's armed kidnapping. They not have security cameras at that bank.

Is that the only bank that didn't have a camera? Ten people saw it. Everyone saw it. She saw it. He said he did it. There's lots on film. They were like, yeah, you know what? Let's give him a break.

What the fuck? Oh, by the way, he's got rape charges pending. That's okay, though. Let's give him a fucking break. Wow. So he's sentenced to six months probation for this. This is what he gets for dragging a woman from a bank with a gun against her head. I dare you to do that.

You think I'll get six months probation? Or do you think you two will be doing an episode about me? I got a feeling this show is done if you do that shit. That's crazy. Unreal. So, Jesus Christ, you think it's over for him in 91? No. 91's a long year, guys.

It's a long year. That's just the start. Because on the same day that he's convicted of this, and this all happens, December 29th, 91, he's apparently at court, so we might as well arrest him again while he's here, while we got him around. Trevor's arrested for, remember that house in Miramar that he was arrested at for raping the girl? Yeah. That house, apparently.

He forged his ex-wife's signature. Oh, boy. To get $95,000 in mortgage loans for this home. Not only did he forge her signature, it's not like he got some papers at home and just scratched a thing out and sent it back. He brought a woman to the bank saying it was his ex-wife who was not his ex-wife and had her fucking sign papers. That's not very smart. That's what he did. Yeah. Again, in a bank with cameras.

With cameras to identify that as absolutely not me. That's not Nadine. So, yeah, this is fucking unreal. He's convicted of second degree grand theft for this eventually later on. Second degree grand theft? $90,000? He's a good lawyer.

That's a great fucking lawyer. He didn't steal the money. It's for forging the documents. That's what it is. To put the house in his name. To get a mortgage to be able to buy the house. I don't know if he had bad credit or I don't know what it is. The Holmes incident. It's essentially identity theft what it boils down to.

Pretty much. It was like forging mortgage documents and I guess that was the second-degree grand large. So that was probably a plea or something of that nature. Now, February 22, 1992, this is just a couple months later. I mean, this is an eventful year for him. He's off the rails now. He's way off the reservation at this point.

His trial for rape finally ends. The victim in this case gave 90 minutes of testimony, which is not going to be good for anybody on trial for rape. Can you imagine hearing 90 minutes of description of how a man raped a woman? It's not great. She described how Trevor ripped off her clothing. Oh, Jesus, you're going to tell us. Oh, boy. Do you want to know what he did?

No, I do. We got to hear it. We got to know how much of a piece of shit. Talk shit about him. You guys will know it's warranted. You know what I mean? Ripped off her clothing. He hit her repeatedly, held her down, and forced her to have sex with him.

She had worked for the family, like I said, for two and a half months. Just wanted her $480. Burbick claims the whole time that it's a conspiracy from his ex-wife. So now it's not Larry Holmes anymore. Now it's his ex-wife. She's involved. They're working together. Oh, man.

The connection. The collusion. Larry Holmes and Nadine are working together, goddammit. He says out loud in testimony in court that he testifies that the victim was, quote, on the payroll, whatever the fuck that means, and kept putting out this ridiculous conspiracy with his wife bullshit. And also, too, he testifies that she willingly had sex with him. Now, a Miami detective named Sean Mahon testified that Trevor gave three different accounts in three successive interviews. He said first saying he never had sex with the girl.

Then he said he did have sex with her, but it was at his house. And then finally said he had sex with her and it was at her house, but she wanted it. It was consensual. So you pick a story and fucking stick to it. And then a fourth interview that was sealed, he said it was a lizard Illuminati. Yes. He said Larry Holmes. There's a time suck episode about that if you'd like to check that out.

He should probably go on there. Is he schizophrenic or something? There's something. This is definite brain damage. He's got brain damage. You don't. His amazing lawyer right now is frustrated beyond belief. He's like, motherfucker, pick a story.

If you're going to hire me to lie for you, at least fucking tell me the lie you're going to tell. Those billable hours are stacking. They are getting so big. Wow. He's like, here, Trevor, you got your gun with you? Make sure you take it. You want to be safe. You are way past your, what's the fee that they charge?

Retainer fee. Retainer fee. Yeah, you're way outside of that. So Trevor is convicted of sexual assault in this case, obviously. It seems pretty clear. DNA, her testimony, his ridiculous stories. But they don't buy the conspiracy thing. Shocker.

So wait a minute. So his wife doesn't get charged? No. Amazing, right? You would think she should be charged way worse for setting this whole thing up. What a monster she is. For orchestrating this entire- Fucking monster.

For spraying his seed all over that room and all over that girl. She should be in jail. Let's get Jenny from Jacksonville in jail, too, because I'm a little still pissed off at her. So he's convicted. They're going to do sentencing, but they have to delay sentencing twice over the next couple months because the judge, Circuit Judge Thomas Wilson, thinks Burbick is fucking insane and has him repeatedly mentally evaluated because every time he's in court, he shouts out crazy shit and acts like a lunatic and can't control himself.

That judge is a half-assed judge because Dan Cummins hit that 10 minutes ago. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So finally, he's deemed sane enough by the judge here to be sentenced on May 16th, 1992, and he's sentenced to four years in a Miami prison for rape and also, too, they rolled in some of those earlier charges of pending assaults and all that. They said, let's just wipe this all out in one clean slate. That's an awfully sweet deal. That's not a bad deal.

That's not bad. Four years for all that shit? Four years. It's pretty good. Yeah. So now he was in the Pan American Games. He's in the Olympics. Loses, whatever.

But he beats fucking Muhammad Ali. It's knocked out by Tyson. He's dragging women. HBO Vegas fight. Yeah. It's knocked out by Tyson. He's dragging women. HBO Vegas fight. Yeah. He's been robbed by Don King. He's dragged women out of banks at gunpoint. He's held knives to people's throats.

He's got seven kids. Poor children. He's raped seven kids. He doesn't even know where they live, so he doesn't see them. He has raped one and probably two, a teenage girl in Halifax. At least. I feel bad for her. That went to court. I feel bad for all these peopleifax. At least. I feel bad for her. I feel bad for all these people.

I do. I feel bad for all these people. This is my favorite. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Trevor Burbick. Son of a bitch. And it's a goofy white kid in it. A computer programmer at Adverse Solutions in London,

United Kingdom. He's like, I'm white for Pete's sake. I didn't do this. Some poor white computer nerd in England. That's funny. He's like, fuck, stop Googling me. Don't Google me ever. I have no problem.

No problem at all with Holmes. I love him. He's a great boxer. I will give you the exact address to my Facebook page and my accounts. Don't Google me. Whatever you do. I swear I don't rape people. Unreal. So that poor, I swear I don't rape people. Unreal.

So that poor bastard I feel bad for. Now, August of 1993, Trevor's freed on parole after only 15 months. Wow. Wow. 15 months.

You know what else? When you walk into that cell and you see that you've got four years ahead of you and then after that, you can get your life back together. All this shit goes away. You can get your life back together. All this shit goes away.

You can get your life back together. You can get on a path and be okay. Then you get out 15 months in and you've got to be like, this Pentecostal shit is working out. Praise God. Hallelujah. We're the snakes. Let's get this life together.

And then what happens, James? Then, well, he gets into boxing again. Gets right back into boxing. Gets right back together. He's got to do it. March 14th, 94, Spartanburg, South Carolina, the mecca of American boxing, obviously. Madison Square Garden, Vegas, Atlantic City, to the side. The Winnipeg of the United States.

It is. That's what it's called, the Winnipeg of the South, I believe. It's on the sign as you enter. Yeah. It's their sister city. The Confederate Winnipeg. Yes, it says exactly what it is. Confederate Winnipeg.

He wins on points after eight rounds, which is fine because he's been in prison, so he's a little rusty. That's fine. 94, he fights three more times. He's just trying to get money, I think this is. All wins, two knockouts and a split decision versus Melvin Foster, who's the first linked fighter he's fought in, God damn, half a decade. 42-7-1 is his record, which 42 wins sounds pretty good. That's impressive.

March 15th, 1995 at the Mystic Lake Casino Hotel in Pryor Lake, Minnesota. Oh, my God, I've been there. You have? Yeah. You played there? Yeah, I did. Oh, Jesus Christ, that's scary. All just trees and a lake.

Is that about it? In the middle of nowhere, if I remember right, yeah. Sounds like it. Go see Dan at the Mystic Lake Casino Hotel in Pryor Lake, Minnesota. Let's see here. He fights Jimmy Thunder here, which is a's see here. He loses a... He fights Jimmy Thunder here, which is a fucking great name. Jimmy Thunder? Jimmy Thunder.

That sounds completely made up. That sounds like a bad, like, 80s porn actor. I'm Jimmy Thunder. Some plumber that moonlights as a boxer. I wouldn't be interested in hanging out with him or his circle of friends. No. Based only on that name. Exactly. For somebody to be like, hey, I'm going to go with Jimmy Thunder.

And then you know his friend's like, that's great, dude. That's good shit right there. You just came up with that just now? That's good. Thunder? You thought of that? God damn. Jimmy Thunder.

Now, Thunder's a Samoan guy, though. So you know he's fucking tough. You know he's fucking tough. I pictured a white, flat-top guy. That's what I pictured, too. Nope, he's a Samoan who was a 35-14 career fighter. Burbick loses a 12-round unanimous decision to this guy. 42-8-1 now, so things are kind of falling apart a little bit.

Over 50 fights, wow. Over 50, yeah. Through 96, he wins his next three fights, two TKOs and a decision, 45-8-1 at the end of that. October 15th, 1996, at the Circus Maximus in Atlantic City, which sounds like a sh the Circus, 1996 at the Circus Maximus in Atlantic City, which sounds like a shithole, I'm sure.

Circus Maximus. We're going to be talking about that. I'm going to be talking about Circus Maximus with you guys. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, boy. You might want to tune in to Time Suck

where you can hear us on Dan's podcast. It's going to be awesome. Where is it at, though? There's a Circus Maximus in where? In Atlantic City. Oh, okay. Yeah, of course.

They have the crack-ass names. Clearly? In Atlantic City. Oh, okay. Yeah, of course. They have black-ass names. Clearly pulled it from Rome. Yeah, yeah. Burbick loses a unanimous decision in 10 rounds to Hasim Rahman, who's the guy who knocked out Lennox Lewis with a flash punch and then had the most giant egg on his face I've ever seen in a human being in a rematch. 45-9-1 at this point for Burbick. 97, Burbick violates his parole in some way.

I cannot for the life of me find out what he did, but it was minor things. It wasn't anything huge. It might have been that Snickers bar you were talking about. He did that. So Trevor is now deported from the United States. Canada or Jamaica? He's not a fucking citizen. He's not even a citizen.

No. Get the fuck out. Quit raping people. Holy shit. They kick him out. They finally get around to noticing he has a rape charge, apparently. That'll smart right there. That's smarts, boy, when immigration finds out about your rape charge.

I hate that. I hate that. Trevor moves back to Canada now. And Canada is not aware of his shit over here, either. So now he's going to have issues there, too. He fights on September 15, 1997 at the Shaw Conference Center in Edmonton, which is, you know, it's like... Mall of America, Edmonton.

Edmonton would be the Chicago to Winnipeg's New York, I feel. Yeah. It's its second city, I feel like. Edmonton has the biggest mall in North America. That's what it is. Really? Edmonton has the biggest mall. There's a comedy club in there.

Yeah, that's... The biggest mall in North America. Yes, we know. Yeah. Rick Bronson's House Comedy. Yeah, Rick Bronson likes to open things in malls. Yeah. Yeah, he's into that.

Yeah, Phoenix had one, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and also Minnesota. Foot traffic, yeah. Foot traffic is enormous. They get just walk-up people that, yeah. Yeah, he's into that. Yeah, Phoenix had one, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and also Minnesota. Foot traffic, yeah. Foot traffic is enormous. They just walk up people. They're like, hey, let's go into Hot Top again. Do you like dick jokes? Let's go over there, too.

Yeah, let's do it. So he's in Edmonton all the way back up north. You fail north in boxing, apparently. You fail northwards. Edmonton's cold. Yeah, it's a brutal city. That's tough. They say in showbiz you fail upwards.

In boxing you fail northwards. That's a word. He fights Lyle McDowell, who doesn't sound like a fighter to me at all. Loses a split decision in 12 rounds. To Lyle McDowell? Lyle McDowell, the non-linker from Edmonton, for Christ's sake. The guy who politely grouted your tile last week.

That's perfect. And then beat the fuck out of this guy in 12 rounds. Call Lyle. The tiles are breaking. Come on. Now he's going to be fighting in a bar in Fairbanks. He's doing a bar show, guys. Oh, man. Look at Comic, who just lost his way. 98-99.

He wins his next three fights, two decisions and a TKO, all in Canada. Not allowed, really, anywhere else. He's 48-10-1. On February 5th, 1999, he wins the heavyweight Canadian title again. They must not have a lot going on up there. After all that, he wins the Canadian heavyweight title? Again. He beats a guy named

Shane Sutcliffe, who's probably related to Rick Sutcliffe. And now he's in his 40s. Yeah, not quite yet. 12th round. Yeah, no, he's 40. 12th round TKO. He's like 43 years old at this point. 1999, his wife divorces him, the one with his newest wife, because she's not a complete idiot.

He fights in Slave Lake, Alberta in August of 1999, which is nuts. And this is also too. Slave Lake, Alberta. Slave Lake. There's a ton of stories of him, like crazy erratic behavior, is supposed to fight, not fighting, just not showing up going showing up and then saying he's not going out shit like that just crazy

behavior loses an eight round split decision to Tony LaRosa not Tony LaRosa. I hope 48 11 and I hope it was right. Picture him with his cardinal hat beating the piss out of him. That'd be great. 1999 crazy he claims in an interview that he saw God of Just beating the piss out of him. That'd be great. 1999.

Crazy. He claims in an interview that he saw God. Oh, God. Where? Of course he did. Where, you may ask? Slave Lake. Slave Lake in the middle of the lake floating.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, yeah, you know, like on the side of a mountain maybe or even in a tortilla. No, in his apartment, of course. Of course. He was just hanging out. That's where he goes. They said, what? He said, well, he was just there. He was just hanging out.

He decided to stop by. You know, God had some extra time. Right. He's like, let's see what Trevor's up to. God's like hanging out. They said, well, he was just there. He was just hanging out. He decided to stop by. You know, God had some extra time. He's like, let's see what Trevor's up to. God's like, hold on, Africa. I know you're starving to death. Hold on. I gotta see Trevor. He's a Canadian. I gotta visit the golden boy of Canadian boxing. The golden boy of Winnipeg. There's a kid with cancer in a children's

hospital. Well, fuck him. I'll be right back. Wait, wait, wait. I got this to deal with. Trev needs me. He's also having terrible tax problems he's completely broke he's in court for a tax evasion thing and he falls asleep in court doing this he's a fucking mess um he's pretty tired from some raping or something yeah he's like man i've been raping all day just all day uh 99 1999 the canadians find out about his extensive record i don't know what the fuck they were doing, and they didn't have the internet in 1999. They don't have Google up there.

Guy's a train wreck. He is. His immigrant status is revoked because he never applied for citizenship. Oh, shit. He can't even be in Canada now. He says he's going to fight to stay in Canada. So on December 5th, 1999, the Canadian immigration... Hope it's not against Lyle.

Yeah, no, she's going to lose that fight. He lost a split decision to the Immigration and Refugee Board in eight rounds. that fight. He lost a split decision to the Immigration and Refugee Board in eight rounds. The Canadian Immigration and Refugee Board, actually, he wins a favorable decision for once lately. They rule that Trevor can

stay in Canada for a period of five years before he has to reapply again. So he's got a five year... Five years. He's got five years here. They said that they ruled that he doesn't pose a threat to society despite this criminal record. Unless you're a woman who doesn't want to be raped and then he's probably a little more of a threat. Or a man that's been conspiring with his ex-wife because you'll get a knife to your throat.

You will get a knife to your throat. Everybody is in danger with that man around. Everybody. The board's, quote, official decision here said that the deportation of the appellant from canada would not save serve the interests of justice which i think it probably would if you're canadian right uh they go on to say that he leads a productive life in montreal barely rapes anybody so that's solid keep that to a minimum yeah this is real short he says that he's in good shape and he's ready to go win the title again he's ready to be heavyweight champ may 26 2000 in Vancouver, British Columbia,

he wins a 12-round unanimous decision against Shane Sutcliffe, the same guy he won. He found a guy he can beat and he's going to beat him over and over again. Just keep doing it.

Yeah, so he fights him once a year until his death. Last fight, this is going to be his last fight. Okay. He's 49-11-1,

so he had 60, fucking 61 professional fights, which is a lot. Yeah. Last eight had 61 professional fights, which is a lot. Last eight fights went the distance. That's a lot of brain damage. At the end. That's a lot, yeah. Like, not when you can put your hands up and actually block a punch.

You're taking a shitload of damage. That's a lot. Now when he watches the Ali fight on VHS, it's like for the first time. Yeah, he's like, I fought Ali. I beat Ali. Hey, that's Muhammad Ali. Get out of here. Oh shit like I fought Ali. I beat Ali. Hey that's Muhammad Ali. Get out of here. Oh shit that's me.

Hey did you know I met Muhammad Ali? Come in here. Trevor Jr. Get in here. Check it out. I fought Muhammad Ali. Hey everybody

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Okay, finally. Finally. It's about goddamn time. It's about time. A brain scan reveals a small blood clot in his brain that is not helping his erratic behavior at all. It's pressing on something that is making him crazy. So who knows how long this has been in there. Who knows what the fuck.

He's a mess. So December 2nd, 2002, Trevor arrested in florida because he's not allowed to be in florida he went down there to try to visit his kids and he was arrested because he's not allowed to be in the united states and pretty sure his ex-wife called the cops he's sent him homes now canada said fuck off yeah canada doesn't want him anymore now that he came down here and got arrested again they're like yeah fuck off so now he's deported to jamaica he's got back to jamaica now he's stuck over there and raising chickens raising chickens he's cutting sawn off that shopping cart again he's like fuck get the propane out in a couple cords so he can play some ziggy marley he's got to that's how you

make a buck down there to the tour so that was december 2002 he's deported to jamaica january 15 2003 uh it's a big deal that he there was an arrest warrant issued for him in port antonio jamaica he's barely in the country and he's got a warrant out already incident happened on january 2003, it's a big deal that there was an arrest warrant issued for him in Port Antonio, Jamaica. He's barely in the country. And he's got a warrant out already? Incident happened on January 12th. A neighbor called police to report Burbick had burglarized their home. He apparently broke into their home, stole a TV, clothes, an electric drill, and other tools.

Holy shit. Police showed up. They asked to search Trevor's home, but he wouldn't let them. He said, where's your fucking warrant? And so they couldn't do anything, so they left to go get a warrant. And anyway. I mean, I get going through your constitutional rights and saying, no, I refuse until you have a warrant. But I've never heard of somebody that doesn't have some shit going on saying, no, no, absolutely not.

Everybody I know that's on the up and up would be like, fucking take a glance. Take a peek. Also, too, what would you do at this point if you did have the up and up would be like, fucking take the Lance. Take a peek. Also, too, what would you do at this point if you did have this shit in your house? The cops came. They left. You go get rid of that shit. Fuck yes. I'd bury it.

Two days later, they come back with a warrant, search his house, found every missing item the guy described. Just kept it in his house. He's like, well, that got rid of that. Shoot them off. Fix that problem. Moving on. So Burbick, Jesus Christ, Burbick wants the warrants out.

He phones the police department to ask if there's a warrant for his arrest, and they say yes, and he just doesn't, he won't tell them his location, won't say if he's going to turn himself in. He's just on the fucking lam at this point out there. It's like a big thing. He's like a fugitive in Jamaica for a burglary charge. They make a big deal out of it because he's the most famous guy on the island at this point. January 18, 2003, he turns himself in to police and is charged with breaking and entering and theft yeah which is a good way you want to you want to make a splash when you go home you know everybody

wants to go back to their hometown and feel good about themselves and this is the way you do it with the charges of a meth addict like those are the worst charges to get from from heavyweight champion to fucking petty theft and breaking. That's so sad. It's fucking ridiculous. The whole thing. So now he's now he's sitting in a Jamaican jail. He's in and out of Jamaican jail.

He's at all this. He can't even find a country that won't kick him out of the fucking thing. You know, it's ridiculous. He's sitting in jail. You know, he's like his wife's not down there. His kids aren't down there. He has no family. There's nobody to come see him.

And then he gets a visitor. He gets a visitor and he comes into a cell and he walks in and it's Bobby Colorado, animal trainer from Fredericksburg, Texas. And he says, how is it you come to arrive here? What's fucking wrong with you? What's wrong with you? I come down here. I come to Jamaica.

I come to have a nice time. I have a vacation. I got a fucking drink in my hand with a little umbrella in it. And I see you got to be a jerk off breaking into people's fucking houses. There's wild dogs all in the fucking streets here. What's wrong with you? There's wild dogs everywhere. No, I don't want no jerk chicken. Get the fuck out of here.

I'm not baking anything you eat. No. You're raping people. You're jerk chicken. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not baking anything you eat. No. You're raping people. You're gunpoint. What the fuck is wrong with you? There's grocery cart grill marks on it. I'm going back to the beach, asshole. Enjoy.

And he takes off. And Trevor's thoroughly confused. He has no idea who Bobby Colorado is. But he has a dog that just will not stop jumping. And Bobby takes care of it because he's that kind of guy. You know what I mean? He does that. He's like, I'll take care of your dog, though.

We'll fill you in later, Dan. Here's my number. All right, come on over here. It's fine. So 2003, he's living in a remote farming community, which is probably best for everybody, I think. He's raping animals, bro. I don't know. He's doing something.

He's teaching boxing clinics in Trinidad at this point. He's trying to make a couple of bucks, I guess. And, you know, he's the most famous boxer they got down there. What the hell? Most famous athlete. It's him and Patrick Ewing. I don't know anybody else from Jamaica, really, athletics-wise. October 22nd to 6th, Berbick goes out and parties with friends.

He's in Norwich. Norwich, however the fuck you want to say it down there. They hit several night spots. He's out partying. You know, he's out hanging out. He's doing his thing. Bobby Colorado's out with him. They're having a good time.

He said to go home between 2.30 and 3.30 a.m. Uh-oh. Is when he's seen going home. Yeah. He leaves. Nothing good happens at that time of night. When I start breaking down into times of day, you know bad things are going to happen, guys. I'll just tell you that.

I'm starting to pick up on this. Yeah. I'm smelling it. I'm starting to pick up on this. I'm smelling it. October 28th, 2006, the very next morning at 630 a.m. in his hometown of Portland, Trevor is found by a church deacon dead in the courtyard. Wow. That wasn't where I thought this was going.

Holy shit. Hey, twisted. There's a hundred dollar bill nearby him and a two inch thick metal pipe laying near him. Wow. How fucking sad. He is in a pool of his bone blood in this courtyard in the church, which is right near, I guess there's a church, and his home is right there next to the church. Somebody whacked him with a pipe. And where is Larry Holmes? Yeah, it's fucking Larry.

Jenny from Jacksonville, you bitch. This is depressing. He has deep, large, gash wounds to the top of his head they call chop marks, is what they call it. Like a machete? Like a machete. He's pronounced dead on the scene. Police say a man is in custody at this point. Now, the detective in the case, Kenneth Bailey, said, quote,

The body had four wounds to the back of the head as he was probably attacked from behind. The impression and the damage done to the skull have indicated that a machete may have been used by his attacker or attackers to murder him. So good call, Jimmy. I'm a better cop than they are. I'm impressed. Apparently, yeah. Now, former U.S. Olympian at this, now there's some people talking about Trevor here, and their quotes are like, I love when they're quotes.

They're so sweet. I love when they're sweet, but like, we all know he was a fucking nut too at the same time. Former U.S. Olympian Lawrence Day-Bay, or Clay-Bay, I'm sorry, said, quote, he was a little strange. But no matter how weird someone might be, you don't wish this to be the way they die. No matter how weird a guy is. And he's fucking weird. Don't get me wrong.

C. Lloyd Allen, who's the former president of the Jamaica Boxing Board, said, quote, we have our challenges in life. But Trevor seemed to handle his challenges very badly. Once he lost to Tyson, he went down a slippery slope. Well, yeah, brain damage is what probably left him down the slippery slope. November 4th, 2006, a week later, Trevor's 20-year-old nephew, Harold Burbick, and 18-year-old Kenton Green confessed to his murder. His nephew? His nephew in a Port Antonio police station. They're both charged.

They used a metal bar that had a clamp thing on the end that mimicked a cutting instrument. And also they led police to a second weapon, which was a crowbar that they beat him with. They attacked him from behind. Harold's mother was actually briefly arrested also. She was taken into custody and detained and questioned, but she was actually let go. It's thought to be a part of a land dispute between the family, this whole thing. So you don't fuck around with land in Jamaica, by the way. God.

Now, December 21st, 2007, after a four-week trial, Harold Burbick is convicted of murder. God, Jesus. Kenton Gordon is convicted of manslaughter. And Nadine is there. His first wife is up there, which is down there for her. She just wanted a vacation. Sure. It's a girl's weekend.

I'll take it. She needs some closure from all the accusations. Yeah, exactly. You know what? She's just overseeing her handiwork. It's all come to fruition. Like the A-team. I love when a good plan comes together.

A square-headed man was seen in the shadows of the back of the courtroom. Wearing sunglasses and a wig. That's what happens when you marry Kaiser Soze. She said, quote, it is wrong to murder someone. Justice has been served. He should not have died the way he did. Well, no shit. That's Captain Obvious.

Thank you. So January 11, 2008 is the sentencing of these two young men. Harold's mother, who's, you know, her sister-in-law, I believe. Harold's mother pleads for mercy for her son, saying that Trevor was dangerous and abusive and has assaulted both her and Harold and threatened them with death. I don't give a fuck. I don't care. I'm not doubting that. I'm sure that's possible. I believe every word of that.

But that doesn't fucking, that doesn't justify attacking a man from behind. No matter how much of a piece of shit he is. No, not killing him either. She also accuses Trevor of stealing a computer from Harold, which I don't know why that would be grounds for murder. But Harold receives life in prison. All right. He must serve 20 years before he's even eligible for parole. Kenton Green gets 14 years of hard labor, which does not sound fun in Jamaica.

That sounds terrible. We're picking bananas. Burbick at one point, I just love this quote to put at the end of his life here because this is just, it makes no sense. It's a space cadet thing to do. And it seems oddly sort of fitting for the end of his life too. He once said, quote, legally I'm a spirit. I have no age. I don't know what the fuck that means, but you're dead.

So I feel like it's apt at this point in time. I don't know. Now, if you love Trevor Burbick and you're obsessed with Trevor Burbick and you can't get enough Trevor fucking Burbick, you can get on eBay and you can buy a Trevor Burbick Mike Tyson fight night program. Wow. Program signed by both fighters. What?

It's funny, too, because, you know, when it's sold at the event, it was only a $5 thing you can see on the cover. $599.99. That seems like a decent price to me. $600. Yeah. That sounds good. It's pretty cool. For a collector, yeah.

There can't be many of those. No, there can't be. Exactly. Signed by both guys. $10 shipping. Really? You charge $600. You can't ship it to me?

It's a fucking magazine. It's not like it's a fucking piano. Right. You didn't make it, for Christ's sake. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Also, too, if you just need to see it out there, you can get on Amazon.com, and you can buy the DVD of Drama in Bahama.

Wow. They have that. Is that autographed by both fighters? That is not autographed by shit, but you can watch Muhammad Ali get more and more and more brain damage. You can watch him going from a man who knew where he was to a vegetable, basically, over the course of 15 rounds.

So enjoy that. That's only, you can get them from $2.99. Wow. That's a deal. That's a great deal. So guys, unbelievable. Thank you for taking me along on that ride. Thanks for being here, Dan.

This was great. Yeah, this was so much fun, man. I'm glad you were a great addition, I gotta say. I'm excited to bring you guys on a ride. Oh, I can't wait. Oh, we cannot wait. Yes. Caligula, man. Yes. Tune into Time Suck and hear us on Time great addition. I got to say. I'm excited to bring you guys on a ride. Oh, we cannot wait. Caligula, man. Tune into Time Suck and hear us on Time Suck.

A disgusting human being. Yeah, Caligula was the first out of, you guys have heard a lot of the episodes I've done on like various Bundy and horrible people. Dan, I'll correct you. I've heard every episode. Definitely. Of course. The one that you guys are going to do, I wanted to do something that was, you know, extra

kind of crazy. Yeah. But even in my hotel room late at night, I was like, Jesus Christ. It's un-fucking-believable what he did. No, he's awesome. I can't wait. He's like the Randall Woodfield of your podcast, basically. Dan basically started a podcast because he gets involved in these things, these topics

that suck him in on the internet, and he can't get rid of it until he knows everything. So then he goes and records it all to purge his fucking brain of this. And you are the recipient of this amazing knowledge. And it's incredibly entertaining. And it's all listener suggested now, which I love. That's awesome. Because I'm amazed how many things where I'm like, oh, I wanted to talk about that. That's great that they sent it in.

But also I'll get stuff that I would have never looked in. Like the last episode, I missed the boat on the mysterious death of Elisa Lam. I was, I guess, the one person who never heard about that. Yeah. Never heard about it. I had seen the video. I never saw the video. The viral video.

Nothing. But I didn't know that it was still – I mean, they have closure for the – they have a determined cause of death. Yeah. But I don't believe that fucking cause of death. No. It seems ridiculous. But it leads you into other stuff where it's like researching that. That's what I love about – and I'm sure same for you. Yeah. You can please other criminals. Yeah. But I don't believe that fucking cause of death. But it leads you into other stuff where it's like, you know, researching that.

That's what I love about like, and I'm sure same for you. Yeah. Other criminals. Exactly. It's like that one led me to the Hotel Cecil. Right. Which was a place. Fascinating.

And then I was having breakfast with Chad Daniels this morning. His girlfriend stayed at the Hotel Cecil. Get out of here. She didn't realize the history of it. And then she did. She said she was terrified. Jesus Christ. And that led me to Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalk then she did. She said she was terrified. Jesus Christ.

And that led me to Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker. That guy was a demon. He's a whole demon. Jesus Christ, guys. And he was caught in Arizona, wasn't he? No. No, he was caught in Southern California. Yeah, Southern California. Coming back from Arizona because he came to visit Tucson.

Wow. He's a terrible man. He liked Tucson. Yeah, he had family there. Listen to Time Suck. If I had to give it like a pitch, I would say it is Dan Carlin's Hardcore History and last podcast on the left had a crazy baby. Incredibly funny crazy baby.

That's hilarious and really funny. It's so good. It's really fantastic. Listening to Dan creep himself out is my favorite part when he goes, Jesus or fuck. And then he laughs about how dark it is. It's fun. I love it. Please get on that.

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Jim's going to go, welcome to Crime and Sports, and I'm just going to read a fucking buddy. We'll do that. It's going to be two hours of names. Definitely. You guys were amazing. Thank you. Want to hit him up, buddy? You know, just Timestuckpodcast.com links to everything else I have.

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