Crime in Sports - #66 - The End Of The Crime Rainbow - The Feloniousness of Charles "Krazy Horse" Bennett

Episode Date: May 2, 2017

This week, we take a deep look at a man who never backed away from a fight, in his life. Problem is, that includes women, both pregnant and not, other fighters... backstage, logic, reason, an...d federal & state drug distribution laws. A man so crazy, that he changed his nickname from "Krazy Horse" to "Felony" because he figured that everyone already knew he was crazy. A truly entertaining guy, in the ring, and a tornado of set backs, outside of it. Start selling cocaine at a young age, never train for your fights, and always choose the path of disaster with Charles "Krazy Horse" Bennett!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: crimeinsports@gmail.comDonate on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:00 We just like the attention, so thank you, guys. We really do. Hope you enjoyed last week's Insanity also. What the hell? Yeah, that's what I said too. Billy Ray Bates is... So out of that, I do want the shoes. I am going to look for a pair of black Supermans.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I'm going to get them eventually. I'm going to find a pair of black Superman shoes. But other than that, holy shit, that guy was crazy. It was one of those stories that wasn't... It's just so goddamn sad. It said it wasn't packed with crime so much as just just no knickery just depressing fuckery about how do you just completely lose your entire life good god what the hell is wrong with you what over over over uh what was it was
Starting point is 00:03:39 just robbing a gas station robbing a gas but he had already screwed his life. He was gluing handles to briefcases for $7 an hour before he even did that. He was just a mess. And then he throws away the super glue job to go rob a store. To go rob a store. And it just gets worse. But like we said last week, listen to last week's episode, you can hire him
Starting point is 00:04:00 if you want to come and speak at your event. He's still alive. He's still there. He's still kicking. He needs help, guys. Without further ado, though, let's get into tonight's winner. Hold on, real quick. Let me tell you about this. A man named Bruno Fernando de Souza. Bruno Fernandez de Souza.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Fernandez, that's correct. Episode five. Don't they have milk bones in Brazil? Right. Check that out. That asshole, if you check out the episode, he murders a woman. That's the sums it up. A woman's dead. He goes
Starting point is 00:04:30 to prison for it. He gets out. That was our last update, that he got out and he got signed to a team and he's now playing soccer. Well, guess what? The government of Brazil decided that's not a safe alternative. Let's not. Let's not have it out there. And that's fucking exciting to me, that their government can parole somebody and then based on public outrage be like you know maybe they're
Starting point is 00:04:49 right yeah that's what it was it was it was all just based on the people seem to be upset about it all right let's call it back that's never happened here there was no legal reasoning or anything they were like i think we screwed up yeah this is bad they're pissed let's not do this the locals are stirring they're not thrilled that's not do this. Let's get him back. The locals are stirring. They're not thrilled. That's literally all it was, which is insane. So he's going back, apparently. Good. Well-deserved.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He killed a woman and fed her to a dog. This is not okay. We can't have that. Even if he didn't have a hand in it, he was definitely there, and he definitely ordered it. Yeah, yeah. And torture and beyond. That was the culmination of other things that he did with this poor woman. So it was-
Starting point is 00:05:24 The black market abortion pill is crazy. Gunpoint black market abortion pills. That's a wild episode. It's one of our early ones, but it's wild and you should really check it out. We have another wild one for you tonight. We really... Wow. That's all I have to say.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's wow. It is Charles Daniel Bennett Jr. Oh, boy. As we know, Jr. That causes problems. It does. It causes problems. It's known Daniel Bennett Jr. Oh, boy. As we know. That causes problems. It does. It causes problems. It's known to cause problems. Better known as Crazy Horse.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Oh, boy. That is his nickname. He's an MMA fighter. And Crazy Horse is really active. Say the name again. Charles Daniel Bennett. I don't hear any Native American in that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:01 This is not the Native American chief. This is not the shitty malt liquor. This is a crazy human being. This is a crazy man. Absolutely crazy. The craziness began on November 23rd, 1979 when he was born in Gainesville, Florida. A bundle of joy
Starting point is 00:06:19 for somebody. And another Florida guy too. We've had a lot in Florida. Gainesville, no less. That's another one. And he ends up moving as we'll get into, he moves to Ocala, which is where Eddie Johnson was from. So there's a lot. We spend a lot of time in Ocala. Now, Junior, if you're a new listener, we've had an inordinate amount of people named Junior in their name here. So we've just decided, as we know, if you name your child Junior, it is basically the equivalent of smoking crack while they're in the womb. That's all there is to it.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Which is perfectly, might be the case here, actually, because his mother, Charles' mother, was a complete crackhead. Really? So she named him Junior and probably smoked crack in the womb. Awesome. He had no chance. And fetal alcohol syndrome. He had all of it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Never a chance, this guy. No. Never a chance. Early, he lives with his mother in Gainesville until she is arrested on drug charges in 1985. Oh, shit. So he is no longer living with his mother. He moves in with his father in Ocala. He's the second of 11 children from his mother.
Starting point is 00:07:16 11 children, all different fathers. Wow. 11 different fathers. That is amazing. 11 different children. That is incredible. Is that a world record? That's wild.
Starting point is 00:07:27 At least for American standards, that is a fucking, that's a lot of fucking. That's a lot of fucking. Now, either she is bad at birth control or they are, the couples when they have sex are bad at birth control.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's a possibility, obviously. Or, responsibility yeah obviously yeah or yeah or so she's either not very responsible or she's just a bad bad chick that doesn't take any shit from nobody nothing she's not taking a goddamn lick of shit off of anybody you get out of here I'll find someone else to impregnate me, god damn it. She spent 99 months pregnant. 99 months. That is crazy. That's a long time. She spent more time pregnant than a lot of our criminals have spent in prison.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, that's what I mean. That's nuts. That's a sentence, being that pregnant. You know, that is a sentence. Good God. Charles is the oldest boy of the group. The first one was a girl. So he's the oldest boy, and he said he had to get into a lot of fights for his siblings to, you know, I don't know, to protect them or whatever the hell it might be. And he also said, but he didn't see them very often. When he did, he was fighting for them.
Starting point is 00:08:36 He said, we have an in their own words here, and we have a lot of in their own words. And we could have had the whole story could have just been in their own words. He could have just told the whole thing for us. He could have told the whole story. I had to really pick and choose and find, and there's still a ton of in their own words and we could have had the whole story could have just been in their own words he could have just told the whole thing he could have told the whole story i had to really pick and choose and find and there's still a ton of them but we have an in their own words on his upbringing and his siblings and this this what he says here is a good indication of the kind of person we're dealing with here in their own words quote i didn't grow up with them we were spread out the government does things to kids while they're growing up to make them the way they are who do you fault?
Starting point is 00:09:05 What? So he's blaming the government for- For mom smoking crack and having 11 kids? Apparently. Apparently. For moving him around. I don't know. I don't know what he's even-
Starting point is 00:09:12 I don't know what he could possibly mean by that. But he lives with his father through his childhood, so I don't know what he means about the government. It's odd. When he grows up, too, as full-sized, he's 5'5", a buck 45. Oh, my God. He's a tiny guy. Yeah. He's a little dude. Badass, though. Oh'm sure an absolute menace to society. Five can probably
Starting point is 00:09:30 still beat the living shit out of me. Oh, he would destroy both of us together. He's a bad motherfucker. I was actually listening to I saw doing research. I saw a clip of a Joe Rogan podcast where he was talking about him. And the guy on the show with him was like, yeah, man man you see this guy like if you saw him outside of a store you'd be like oh this guy looks like a little squirrely crackhead or something and then he would beat the shit out of you he's like he's that tough like just a monster he's a monster uh now in high school he said a lot of people supported him because he was a good football player he played football in high school was very good at it running back he was a was a running back, linebacker, and even claims he insists that he played on the defensive line
Starting point is 00:10:07 as well. What? I don't know how you would play on the defensive line. I mean, in high school? He wasn't 5'5 in high school. No, he's probably 5'2 at this point. That's crazy. Because he is kicked off the team in his sophomore year. So this is before his sophomore year he was playing that. Yeah, he was so little. He's a really, really impressive athlete.
Starting point is 00:10:23 If you're a high school kid and you're this athletic, you're going to be a good football player, period. You're just that good. But he drops out, or he gets kicked off the team in his sophomore year and decides that he should probably start selling cocaine. That's a good plan. And concentrate on it. That's a good plan.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He said a lot of people supported him because of football and stuff, so he's like, I didn't have to sell cocaine. I could have just concentrated on that. But for some reason, did it anyway. Coaching to work. The story of this asshole's life. Don't know why I did it, but I did it anyway. He drops out of school as a junior after his dad kicks him out of the house.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Okay. So his dad kicks him out. He drops out. And now what's he going to do? Obviously, he's going to sell more fucking cocaine. Because now he needs a place to stay, too. No reason to not. Now he has to.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Now, in 1996, he's 17 years old. He is arrested. We have an early crime, boy. My God. He gets arrested early, often, and throughout. So let's keep going. He's arrested for aggravated battery at age 17. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:23 He's an angry kid. That's a really steep charge for a 17-year-old. That's pretty good. That's a felony, I think. That's not a great one to have on your record at 17. Anything aggravated, that sounds a little steep. Sounds bad at that point. The charges are eventually dropped against him.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So he gets out of that. So no proof. No proof, no nothing, no whatever. I don't know if they just said, never mind. A lot of cases in the system. Who knows? So he keeps going. He's selling cocaine.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He's doing his thing. You know, he's living out there. And it's funny, too, because he's not like he said. His siblings are spread out. He goes and lives with his dad. So he's the only one from his dad. So it's not like he's going to have siblings there. So it's not like he's really, you know, I need to support my little brother or, you know, some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:11:57 It's not like that at all. He's just taking care of himself. He has to take care of himself and get through it. And he's going to do it by selling cocaine, apparently. 1998 now, he's 19 years old. He's arrested and charged with possession of cocaine, which you know this is going to happen. Charge eventually later in the year gets dismissed. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:17 So he's lucky so far. So now you've got a guy that's 19 years old that's been arrested twice on very serious charges and been dropped both times. Yes. And he's a great athlete. He's a tough dude. This is a man that's definitely got an ego about him right now. Oh, huge ego. And also, too, I mean, he's doing great, right?
Starting point is 00:12:34 This is good. Yeah. He's beating it at this point. He's winning. I think everything's going to turn out fine, Jimmy. It's got to. I think he's going to go on. He's going to have a strong career.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And we're going to be like, that was not a lot of crime. And he got it over with by the time he was 19. And he's having a great life. And you guys have a good night. Thank you very much. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to Crime and Sports. Right?
Starting point is 00:12:51 That's how it's going to go? It's got to. I don't know. Later on, he says that he's a big drug dealer when he was a kid. He's bragging about how much of a drug dealer he said. He said, quote, if you come to my hood and ask about Crazy Horse, they'll tell you about my destruction. My destruction? What?
Starting point is 00:13:05 What the fuck was he doing? Yeah. Apparently he said he was very tough and very, who knows what he was doing out in the streets. Just beating everything. Beating everybody that he could find. And God knows what else he's doing. Who knows? I mean, it's the late 90s.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It's not like it's the 70s. Yeah, this is the era that I grew up in. I can recall this very vividly. Shooting, stabbing. I mean, if you're dealing drugs hard, gotta be pretty pretty tough with that at this point he's rocking to big pimping and oh yeah and he's living a life yeah absolutely so 98 later on in the year because he's already been arrested now once for possession of cocaine in 98 he is arrested again oh in 1998 this is three already we're 12 13 minutes in this bad boy so So I mean, this is a solid, sturdy arrest.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He's a, he's a, he's a worker. This guy, let me tell you something. Uh, he's arrested for possession of cocaine. Plus, plus he's adding some more now intent to sell, which is a bigger one, grand theft and possession of less than 20 grams of marijuana. Okay. Altogether, there was four felony charges and one misdemeanor. He received adjudication withheld on the four felony charges. So basically, they don't do shit. They're going to hold off and see if you fuck up more, and then they can reconstitute the charges is what it is. He's gotten really fucking lucky. I would say so.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I don't know why he's so lucky. This is three charges now, any of which could have sent him to prison. And he is fine out of this. I don't know how. Generally, but now he's an adult, too. I could have any of which could have sent him to prison. Yeah. And he is fine. I mean, generally, generally they. But now he's a he's an adult, too, like on the other one, on the aggravated assault. Like that was that was when he was a minor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:34 But now these two are both as an adult. And like now they don't have to look at what's going on at home. And before they were looking at home like they see a single father, they felt bad. Mom had 11 kids like this kid's going to be a little fucked up. Yeah. See how now now it's like you're a problem to society. All I can think is that he's – it's hard to explain. Especially, too, we're going to profile this guy. We're going to read all this.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'm going to tell you quotes. I'm going to tell you when he's been arrested and crazy shit that he did. And you're going to go, God, he sounds like such an asshole and such a scumbag. But besides the obvious things that he's going to do that are horrible, he's very likable otherwise. I don't see how at this point. He's got a big personality. He's one of these guys, especially fighting-wise, I don't even really like MMA that much. I'm not a big fan.
Starting point is 00:15:19 It's fine and everything, but I'm not a huge MMA fan. His fights were fucking awesome. I couldn't stop watching them. They were so entertaining. I'm going to have to go back and look. He's were fucking awesome. I couldn't stop watching them. They were so entertaining because he's an entertaining cat. He really is. Joe Rogan, back in that same thing, he's one of the most entertaining fighters he's ever seen
Starting point is 00:15:33 in MMA. And he's a badass. How do you do that? And we'll get to it, I imagine. Because he's crazy. He has no filter. How do you do that? He'll aggravate or assault somebody. He'll sell cocaine. He'll flip off the top of the cage. Jesus. He'll talk shit.
Starting point is 00:15:48 He just lives. He just lives in the fast lane all the time. Now, 1999, in between, he had a couple little stints in jail in 99. In between these, he sees an ad in a newspaper for an MMA gym. And he didn't know much about it, but he thought it sounded pretty cool. And he signs up. He goes down to the gym he signs up he gets into fighting you know he's starting to think oh this is interesting something I can do but he's also still mainly concentrating on selling cocaine because that's his living he's still selling cocaine and he's focused on fighting
Starting point is 00:16:18 that's his living well he's just training in a gym screwing around and then he's you know fighting he's also selling cocaine because In case he has to rough somebody up for not paying. That's right you might as well know how to protect yourself but he makes his pro debut fighting wise MMA so he said once they got in the gym he's a naturally a gifted guy. He's just athletic
Starting point is 00:16:38 he's gifted naturally so they said holy shit you're insanely fast. You're really good at this. You hit like a truck. You're good. I mean, he trained for like six months and making a pro fight. That was it. And he's not big on training either, as we get into later.
Starting point is 00:16:54 His pro fight is September 1st, 1999 in Georgia. It's at the Lionheart Invitational. That's the name of the event that he's doing. That was cool. He fights a guy named John Swift, who is a non-linker. And if you're new to the show, whenever we have fighters, MMA, or boxers, if you look them up on Wikipedia, the list of fights, there are guys that you can click on, and then there's guys who-
Starting point is 00:17:16 The blue ones and the black ones. May never have existed. They just, for all intents and purposes, they're gone off the face of the earth. It could just be a black, typed-up name that nobody knows who the fuck that is. So that's going to be a non-linker. Those are people who are like, it's not probably the best fighter if they didn't even bother to make a link to anything. So he fights a non-linker named John Swift. Charles loses this fight, his debut.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Loses in the first round by submission to a rear naked choke, which is a move that he'll lose several fights. Really? Yeah, I don't know. He was susceptible to that for some reason. So he's 0-1 at that point. So MMA didn't go exactly how he planned, but he's still got his cocaine enterprise on the side. Thank God. So let's all praise, you know, he's doing fine.
Starting point is 00:17:57 He's doing great. Until 2000. Okay. The next year when he's arrested for possession and sale of cocaine in Florida. Again. Again. This is when life changes a little bit for him. Why is he going down to Florida?
Starting point is 00:18:09 It's where he lives. He's from Ocala. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he's got to stay in Florida and fuck up because he's in Florida. That's what people do when they're in Florida. That's what you do. It's what one does when they go to Florida, Jimmy. One in Rome.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Absolutely. So he says he's arrested at this point and he says, look, this is it. I am going to change my life. OK, changing my life. It's around this time, too, in 2000 that he has a daughter. His daughter is born or his son was born first and then his daughter is born in 2000. So at this point now he's got two kids, two kids, and he decides to focus on fighting full time. I mean, this is the smartest thing he's done yet. Yeah. Brain damage is preferable to prison. So let's go out and get that brain damage.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Go out, bang your head into the wall. We don't care. It's fine. At least you're not hurting anybody who didn't sign up for it and is being paid. And you're making money that can be taxed. And you're providing taxable taxed income to a family and raising kids. And sad as it is or whatever, it's actually much safer than selling drugs also. And this is what he says.
Starting point is 00:19:07 He says he didn't want to be killed or locked up selling drugs and have two kids. That makes sense. Which is actually a responsible thing to say. And if he actually stuck to that, I'd say good for you. You did a good thing. He's starting to get his head out of his ass. But the problem is this is what he says. And a lot of times as we'll find out, what he says and what he does are two really different things,
Starting point is 00:19:26 like extremely different. It's like an 8-year-old. That's exactly what it is. Now we have an in-their-own-words on his life change here. In-their-own-words, quote, I quit selling dope and started fighting full-time, but I never took it seriously. It was just that I was good at it, so I felt that I didn't have to train,
Starting point is 00:19:41 which is not a good thing if you're going to be a professional fighter. Nobody's that naturally talented where they don't have to train. There's guys who are just as naturally talented who train all day, every day. So you have to be both. Muhammad Ali trained every single day. You have to train. Mike Tyson trained every day. Every day.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The greatest natural puncher in the history of the world trained constantly. Every day. Yeah. When he did take a little light, he got beat by Buster Douglas. That's it. Who was a tub of shit. There you go. That tells you right there. Every day. Yeah. When he did take a little light, he got beat by Buster Douglas. That's it. Who was a tub of shit. There you go. That tells you right there.
Starting point is 00:20:08 A lot. So on August 4th, 2000, still had the cocaine charge over his head, the sale and possession. He is convicted of sale and possession of cocaine in Marion County, Florida. So he picked a good time to turn his life around after he was already fucked it up almost irreparably. But I don't think he does any jail time. Really? I don't know if he got probation or what the deal was, but he is fighting on August 26, 2000.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Way to go, Florida. So that is three weeks later. He's in the ring or in the octagon or whatever, however you want to say it. He's throwing punches one way or another. He's trying to beat the shit out of another guy. He's at the World Extreme Fighting, the WEF New Blood Conflict, it's called. He fights a guy named Todd Carney, and he beats his ass. Really?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. Charles has a good fight here. Is he a non-linker? He's a non-linker, yeah. Todd Carney's a non-linker, but I did see the footage from the fight, and he roughs him up pretty good and then slams the shit out of him. Awesome. Body slams him like nobody's business. I love those.
Starting point is 00:21:06 That's the end of the fight. It's a KO. 2.21 in the first round. Wow. Two minutes, 21 seconds in the first round. So a lot of first round knockouts for him. And a lot of, he's either going to knock, his conditioning makes it so he's either going to knock you out or it's going to go past the first two minutes and then you're going
Starting point is 00:21:23 to get him in a submission because he's tired. That's basically how his career goes down. That's what happens when you don't train. That's exactly the point here. He does have a revelation later on, but doesn't do much. So like I said, he has a daughter in 2000 also. So he's got a lot going on. A fighting career, a new daughter, cocaine charges.
Starting point is 00:21:39 He's got a life. He's got some responsibilities. He's got a real full plate here. So on December 16, 2000, pretty soon after that, down in Florida still. I don't know if he's allowed to leave the state yet. There's the WEF Rumble at the Rodeo 1. That's the event he's fighting at. He fights a linked opponent here.
Starting point is 00:22:00 He fights a man named Rich Clemente, who actually seems like he's a very experienced fighter in the end. Clemente was 4-5 coming into the fights. They were both pretty new. Clemente ended up being 45-23-1. That's not so bad. Which isn't a terrible record, and he's a vet. He's a guy that can fight. Charles loses by submission in the first round
Starting point is 00:22:20 here. Again, submission. He gets caught with it. He's not really a good mat fighter. He's a stand-up. When you look at all the MMA things, they say style. Style of fighter. It, submission. He gets caught with it. He's not really a good mat fighter. He's a stand-up. When you look at all the MMA things, they say style. Style of fighter. It's street. They call it street. They call it street, basically. Because he's just... I don't think I've ever seen that. He looks like he's
Starting point is 00:22:35 you, you know, gotten a... Basically, he looks like a guy who you got in a fight with on the line at 7-Eleven. And he's like, put your hands up, motherfucker. And he's like, that's how he fights. The guy's like, I was standing here. And he's like, no hands up motherfucker and he's like that's that's how he fights the guy's like i was standing here and he's like no you weren't yeah that's how he fights now we fight it's insane that's how he fights he fights like he's just on the street it doesn't look like it just happens to be in a ring with gloves on it's really weird i don't think i've ever seen anybody whose style was quote-unquote straight yeah it's and that's
Starting point is 00:22:59 exactly how i describe it that's why it just looks like he's just put your hands up that's what he wants to do he just wants to get you here. So, yeah, he lost there. Now he's one and two. He fights two fights. He wins in March and April 2001, both against non-linkers. One's in Georgia. One's in Kissimmee, Florida, the garden center of the world, obviously.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Everyone, go to Kissimmee. Don't go to Kissimmee. It's horrible. You don't want to be there. It's a lot of travelers, though. It's a lot of from the north traveling south and just visiting. Yeah, I remember the commercials for tourism for Kissimmee.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Come to Kissimmee. So both of these fights are KOs. One is with punches and one is a corner stoppage. He gets a guy in the corner and works him over. Both of them are in round three. So he actually makes it to round three. How about that? He's fighting non-linked tomato cans, but he's making it to round three. So that's fine. He's three and two now coming in.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So he's starting to get in here. Now, 2001, he is arrested again. Oh, shit. I'm going to give you a guess what he's arrested for. Cocaine. Cocaine. But I thought he cleaned it up. He said, but his kids, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Well, no. It's so depressing. Oh, poor guy. No. Yeah. He's not cleaning shit up, basically. He's arrested for possession of cocaine. He's found guilty of possession of cocaine.
Starting point is 00:24:07 But he keeps going. Really? There's no consequences. What happens? What are they doing? This is his fourth time he's been arrested for cocaine. So much for a war on drugs. War on anything.
Starting point is 00:24:17 How about just, hey, asshole, stop having cocaine on you constantly, you jackass. Yeah, that's better. But he's fighting. August 4th, 2001. He is in San Jacinto, California. It's the KOTC, the King of the- San Jacinto. Jacinto.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I don't know how the fuck you say that shit. All right. I have no idea. He fights the King of the Cage, the KOTC 10. Critical Mass is the name of it. Fights a guy named Dwayne Ludwig, who is a linked fighter. All right. He's 21 and 14 all time. He comes into the fight five and two, Dwayne Ludwig, who is a linked fighter. All right. He's 21 and 14 all time.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He comes into the fight five and two, Dwayne Ludwig. Decent fighter. Charles loses again by submission, and they call this one exhausted, exhaustion. That's the submission. How much does that suck? I don't know if he just gave up, or I don't know what it was. Just fell down and tapped out when the guy wasn't touching him. But he doesn't train.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I wish I'd have seen that fight, because that never happens in the UFC on the TV ones, the ones that are broadcast. No, it's insane. This was only in round two. 238 in round two. He must have just blown up throwing punches in round one and then just couldn't do anything anymore. So now he's three and three. So his fighting career isn't going. It's going about as well as his drug dealing career.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So his fighting career isn't going, it's going about as well as his drug dealing career. He's got two shit careers paralleling each other at the same time, not doing too spectacular for themselves. September 2001 to November 2001, he fights five times in this period. So yeah, he's including three fights in the month of November. September to November? He fights three times in November. Wow. He fights once on the 15th of November and another time on the 17th of
Starting point is 00:25:48 November. What? That's two days apart. You cannot fight. That's what? That's batshit. The swelling hasn't even gone down. Nope. He's still red. He's still soaked in sweat. I don't understand how this is possible. I would think he'd still be tired from that. Yeah. You'd still be kind of muscles, soreness,
Starting point is 00:26:04 exhaustion, feeling like that, something. If he lost that fight to exhaustion, he's definitely losing this one. Shit, no doubt. But he wins all five of these fights from November to September 2001 to November. Maybe the terrorist attacks emboldened him. I'm not sure what it is. He got jacked up by them. He got pissed off.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I don't know what happened. What do you think the money is for those? I have no idea. I mean, he said he's making a living pro-fighting now. There's no... Maybe it's like a grand fight? I have no idea. All these first ones, too, they're not major companies there. He's fighting on Indian reservations, on casinos. He's fighting at bars. He's fighting at basically like the casino, like what Jared Wyatt, episode 53, I think, the guy who cut his friend's heart out, kind of what he was fighting, like in a parking lot, a ring set up in a parking lot of a casino.
Starting point is 00:26:51 But it's fairly – it kind of matters. Yeah. Well, like a lot of these fights, too, back then, this is when UFC wasn't what it was now and MMA wasn't what it was now. Like a lot of these states, it was outlawed. And the only way you could fight there is on the Indian reservation. So that's how they would do it. They would set it up in a casino. There's got to be some cash involved.
Starting point is 00:27:09 There has to be, but I don't see how. I can't imagine it's crazy. Right. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody's coming. So four of these guys are non-linkers of the five that he beats. One was an actual linker named Gerald Straybrent, who was 9-7 in his career. Nothing special. named Gerald Straybrent, who was 9-7 in his career.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Nothing special. The fifth fight was a submission with a heel hook versus Andrade Sabrito, which he's expanding his game. That's his first submission. With a heel hook. With a heel hook. So he's learning. He's learning.
Starting point is 00:27:37 This is good. So he's 8-3 now. Now that's reputable. Plus he's won five in a row. He can even say, like, hey, look, I didn't know what I was doing at first. I was new. I didn't train for five years. It takes me a minute five in a row. He can even say, like, hey, look, I didn't know what I was doing at first. Right. I was new. I didn't train for five years. It takes me a minute to get into this.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I got into this. Plus, I was selling cocaine on the side. I got kids. Extracurriculars. I got shit going on, man. I lead a full life. Yes. You understand?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Just a full life. 2002. He is arrested in 2002. So his fight career is starting to pick up, and things are starting to go well for him. So he needs to get arrested. He might as well get married. Yeah. So that would be the only other stupid thing.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He got arrested though. He gets arrested. Jesus. For aggravated battery. Okay. Yeah, that's good, right? I mean, it's different. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Let's continue the game since I've been asking you to guess things. Who do you think he aggravatedly battered? Is it a wife? It's not a wife. Is it a girlfriend? It is a pregnant woman. Oh my God pregnant woman what kind of monster this is this well he also uh it's also alleged that he choked her and it was for like a strangulation assault so he is uh beating and choking pregnant women in pregnant women so this is what i'm saying if he wasn't beating and
Starting point is 00:28:40 choking pregnant women you'd be like this guy's got a fun personality. But then he goes and beats and punches and chokes pregnant women. So not fun anymore. He's fighting and you don't have all your aggression out in the ring. You've got to go beat up a pregnant woman. That's the thing. Well, Christ, this is the other thing we're going to talk about. And I don't know how to do this, but his mother was a hardcore crackhead. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So was his father. They're both crack addicts. And he's seen his mom pregnant so many times. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm not doubting that his mother smoked crack while she was pregnant with him, which would not help his situation. Slow down the brain function a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And then you add in the fact that he is fighting all the time and taking blows to the head and things like that. And you're like, he might not be that stable mentally. Yeah. And also, too, he might not be that stable mentally. Yeah. And also, too, he's probably doing drugs on top of it. He keeps getting busted with coke. I don't know if he's doing it. He's got to be, right?
Starting point is 00:29:30 I don't know if he's all jacked up. That's the only thing I could think of that would make you choke a pregnant woman. Yeah. If you were just jacked on coke and pissed off and, I got to choke her. I'm going to beat this pregnant. I'm going to aggravatedly batter this pregnant woman. I mean, that's the only time that I God, that sounds so terrible. I was going to say that's
Starting point is 00:29:47 the only time that my wife ever got a pass. But it sounds like I beat her. Like you're beating her? Every other time. It's the back of the hand, huh, Jimmy? No, but generally when fights would start when she was pregnant, I'd be like, you're pregnant. How can we even argue? I don't want your blood pressure to raise. Well, we'll settle it here. I'll mark it
Starting point is 00:30:03 on the calendar. We'll do it in about six months. We'll argue this whenever that thing's out. Yeah, when it pops out, then we'll talk about it. I just can't imagine an argument escalating so much that you choke a woman that's pregnant. That's crazy. Or a woman that's not pregnant, but especially... I mean, you have a point. Guys, everybody.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I'm just saying. Crime and sports movement. Don't hit or choke women, please. Don't bother with them. And if you do, make sure that they're not pregnant. Actually, don't at all. Just don't. Not if you do.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Just don't choke them. Don't hit them. And then also, if they're pregnant, extra. Go the extra mile. Take that anger that you have for her and wait until your next UFC fight and take it out on that guy. That's the thing. You're going to get in the ring again.
Starting point is 00:30:41 You can go spar. Go spar with someone and knock the hell out of them. So crazy. It's insane. So June june 29 2002 he's got another chance this is what i mean wait till wait till uh wefc which is the world extreme fighting championship one bring it on is the name of it a giant cheerleader yeah uh cheer off beforehand i would i can only assume stomp the yard competition i can only assume kirsten Dunst was there to really throw it down. This is in Georgia. Saved by the urban fellas. So dumb.
Starting point is 00:31:11 What a dumb movie. Again, is that a 90s movie? Can we do it again? God damn it. It might be 2000. I'm not sure. This is in Georgia. He fights another non-linker. He's got to get his confidence up here. He fights Rick Davis and loses a unanimous decision. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:31:27 He goes the distance, though. Yeah. That's a good thing. He didn't just fall down and submit from exhaustion. Well, he's been sparring with pregnant ladies. That's what it is. He's like, you know, something about fighting with pregnant women is they have stamina. You bet.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And, you know, you've got to get around and dance. They'll rope-a-dope you. They'll rope-a-dope you. We're laughing at him beating up a pregnant woman. Jesus Christ, he's an asshole at this point. I'm sorry. He is. We're mad at him.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Trust me. He's a real twat. Want to get even madder? Yeah. Late 2002, the aggravated battery charge against the pregnant woman was dropped. Get out of here. Dropped the charge. How do you drop that?
Starting point is 00:31:59 I don't know if it was her or if they didn't have evidence. I don't know. It might have been her saying, I changed my mind. I'm not pressing. I don't know how you would even have the choice to press charges if you're a pregnant woman who's getting beat up. Yeah, the state should just be like, we're pressing whether you like it or not. Yeah, take the onus off of her.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Don't make her press charges. Go, yeah, if you're beat up by a guy, we'll take care of this shit. It's ours. Yeah, let's go. If you beat up a pregnant woman, too, I think they should be able to rough you up a little bit. I feel like the taser shouldn't even just be an option. It should be like, you hit her? Sorry, man. I got to hit you with this.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I got to tase you. I'm sorry. That was a real dick move. I've got to get you with this. That was shitty. She's pregnant. You know that, right? I'm going to hit you in the sack. Yeah. So he, no fights between June 2002 and September 2003. He had some legal issues and was going, had a probation thing and in and out of jail. And he's got some issues in this time period from June to September of 2002 to 2003. So he has like a year where it's not going well. Shit doesn't go right.
Starting point is 00:32:52 No, he's in jail. And I wish I knew exactly when he was in jail and when he's not, but I could not find that information. His criminal record, as far as details like that, are very sketchy. And I had to really dig deep to find what I found. It's wild. Is that just Florida? I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:33:08 If it's Florida or what, because other states there was more things that he did, there's more details about that we'll get into. Okay. And some of the things, he just gives you all the details. Awesome. Which is fun too. We'll talk about that later. But yeah, no fights in there.
Starting point is 00:33:18 But from September 2003 to June 2004, he has four fights. All versus non-linkers. Three of them are in California. One of them is in Florida. All wins. Oh. So he's padding his record. Two of them by decision.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Two of them by first-round knockout. So very different fights with all these fights. So, yeah, he's trying. He's building. He's building. Now, August 2004, after that, to November 2004, he loses three fights in a row. Okay. So wins four, loses three.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Loses three. First fight is against Takumi Nakayama, who's a former King of Pancreas featherweight champion. So he was a decent fighter. The second fight was in Japan. How the fuck does this guy get a passport? Yeah, how do you get out of the country with all that? How do you have a passport? How the fuck does this guy get a passport? Yeah, how do you get out of the country with all that? How do you have a passport?
Starting point is 00:34:03 I know people who had like, you know, some disorderly conduct 10 years ago and they can't get into Canada. I'm not even kidding. Can't even get into Canada? They can't get into Canada. It's ridiculous. There's a famous story. Yeah. Actually, when I was doing research for Ayan Krotoru episode, which is amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You should go back and listen to Ayan Krotoru episode. It's ridiculous. It's insane. It's terrifying. So he's a wrestler. So I was listening to Jim Cornette, a podcast where he and listen to Ion Crotoro. It's ridiculous. It's insane. It's terrifying. He's a wrestler. So I was listening to Jim Cornette, a podcast where he was talking about Ion Crotoro. And he's an old wrestling manager. And he was explaining how he tried to go to Canada for some matches that he was working
Starting point is 00:34:36 for a company that was going up in Canada. And he could not get into Canada because they found an arrest from 1984. This was in 2012. You're talking about 16 years ago. No, 26 years ago. And he couldn't get in because of it. He couldn't get into Canada for disorderly conduct? And it was from him and everybody got arrested because during a wrestling match,
Starting point is 00:34:58 after the wrestling match, this was back in the 80s when people thought wrestling was real. In the South especially, they thought it was real. They got attacked by a bunch of fans and they had a huge brawl. I love that so much. In the South, people thought it was real. No, they did. I get it. It just sounds hilarious. Yeah, and it wasn't their fault, too. They also did
Starting point is 00:35:15 a different style of wrestling down there that looked a lot more real. I will say that. If you look at the old NWA style as compared to like a WWE or WWF back then style, they look a lot different. The telegraphed punch rather than. Yeah. These guys also were like they didn't look all muscle jacked up. Most of them were like kind of had a little beer belly.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They look like just some tough guy at the bar. Yeah. So that's people believe somebody in overalls. Exactly. They believed it a little bit more. And you had Ric Flair with his chops. You can hear from the back row. Things like that made you believe it a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But yeah, he couldn't get in because of a fight with fans in 1984. Ridiculous. He was trying to explain it to him. I'm in wrestling. We get attacked back in the day. That's from 20. What are you talking about? And they're like, nope, sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Turned his ass back around, sent him back to Detroit. It's like, wow. You're on a horse in a fucking Red Ranger Rick outfit, and I just can't come in for one fight and leave? Nope, sorry. That's all I want. Yeah, that's, oh my God. And if you've ever heard anything that Jim Cornette ever did, I would have loved to have
Starting point is 00:36:07 been a fly on the wall while he berated these people and called them fucking exactly what you just said. Cause you guys, you guys are always saying you like my rants. Holy shit. His rants are, oh, it's 20 minutes at a time. He doesn't, he doesn't need air. It just goes. He does it in one breath.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It's got like a high pitched Southern accent. It's got a high-pitched southern accent. It's called the Jim Cornette Experience. I can't wait. It's actually on Audioboom and on iTunes, everywhere you want to be. So check that out. It's kind of fun. Anyway, moving on here. So yeah, he fights these guys.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Somehow he gets to goddamn Japan. How the fuck are they letting this maniac in? And they continue to let him in for 15 more years, 10 more years. It's nuts. Both of these are first round. The first two fights are first round submissions. And then the third fight's a second round submission. So now he's at 12 and 7 is his record.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So his record's never really terrific. It's not staggering, but still winning 12 fights is pretty good. I couldn't win 12 fights. I'm not winning 12. Unless they're against you or, you know, you might win 12 too. Yeah, I might give you a run. Who knows? So February 5th. Not if you start boxing though. You're a boxer. Yeah, I'm a boxer.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I can bite. That's about it. I got to reach on you too. I'm going to be sliding in. You're going to be sliding in. All right, guys. I'm going to be going low blows. I'm swinging a dicks. Enough Patreon money. We will fight. How's that? We should do that. We hit a certain amount. We'll fight in the will fight. How's that? We should do that. We hit a certain amount.
Starting point is 00:37:25 We'll fight in the ring. We're going to work it like crazy, too. We'll figure it out. Yeah, this is going to be a wrestling match. We're going to sell the shit out of it. Guys, if we can get to, we'll decide the amount later, but if we can get to a certain amount on Patreon, we're going to have a fight. I'll fight James.
Starting point is 00:37:37 We're going to do it. We're going to put it out there. We'll put the video out for you guys. James is going to need health insurance just in case. That's the other thing. Yeah, Jesus. I might get a sucker punch in. We'll be like, out for you guys. James is going to need health insurance just in case. That's the other thing. I might get a sucker punch. We'll be like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Let's build it up.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Let's build it up until I get health insurance and then we'll fight. Once I get health insurance, we're fighting. God damn it. I can kick in the nuts for all your fucking puns for the last 25 episodes. You asshole. That's what you're getting. That'd be so much fun. Pun kicks.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Pow. Yeah. So he's fighting now. February 5th, 2005. He's down in Mexico. Okay That would be so much fun. Pun kicks. Pow. Yeah. So he's fighting now February 5th, 2005. He's down in Mexico. Okay. Again, leaving the country. But Mexico, they don't care.
Starting point is 00:38:10 They'll let whoever in there. When was it? 2005? 2005. That's when the drug war was going on. Yeah, this is post 9-11. It's still post 9-11. This is a scary place to be.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Oh, yeah. It's scary down there. But he's going down to fight. It's the King of the Cage 47 uprising. All right. He fights Victor Hernandez. All right. He wins a first round KO in 11 seconds. going down to fight he it's the king of uh king of the cage 47 uprising all right he fights victor hernandez he wins a first round ko in 11 seconds okay and it's a slam so he basically punched this guy grabbed him dropped him fight over that was that was the fight done very very fast and he's
Starting point is 00:38:37 got a couple fights like this he improves his record to 13 and 7 okay now february and march 2005 has a loss versus a guy named Forrest Petz and has a draw against Gabe Rivas. So he's 13-8-1. Now, May 2005 to July 2005, he wins his next three fights. He's very up and down. Just like his behavior,
Starting point is 00:38:58 his mental makeup, everything is just really up and down. Everything in his life, he can't just be consistent. It's just up and down, up and down, up and down. Everything in his life, he can't just be consistent. It's just up and down, up and down, up and down. And when you see interviews with him, too, I don't know if he's bipolar or what, but when you see interviews with him, he's either really up and just, he's real animated and doing shit, or else he's like, yo, man.
Starting point is 00:39:21 He's either on coke or going through a withdrawal. That's it. He's either on coke or he ate like five weed candy bars. Either one. Those are his only two speeds. That's awesome. So I don't know if it's a mental thing or if he's got, like I said, who knows if he got hit in the head and then talked slowly. I don't even know. So May 2005 to July 2005, he wins his next three fights, like I said.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Only one of them against a linker, but still, that's one. Two by KO, or two by TKO, one by KO. He has a draw in August of 2005 after that, so he's 16-8-1. So he's trying here. He's working it. Or 16-8-2, I apologize. I mean, for every win or every
Starting point is 00:39:58 loss, he's got two wins. So that's fine. For now, that's pretty good. That's okay. 60%, he's doing alright. In MMA, this isn't like boxing. Right. Boxing, once a guy takes a loss, you're just like, ah, screw that guy. Never mind. No contender.
Starting point is 00:40:11 It's not like that in boxing. Like in boxing, if you're going to be a title contender, you've got to come up. You've got to be 23-0. Right. You have to be, you know. Two losses at best. Yeah, you're done. Otherwise, it's just like a joke.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It's a joke. Yeah, you can't have. But in MMA. This guy's had six losses. This isn't a contender. It's true. Right. I mean, people look at Muhammad Ali's career, and they're't have... This guy's had six losses. This isn't a contender. It's true. I mean, people look at Muhammad Ali's career and they're like, oh, he had like six losses. And I'm like, yeah, but he had 60 wins
Starting point is 00:40:30 and 63 wins or whatever. It was at the end. It was at the end and he was all against great fighters. So it's like, yeah, you got beat by Phil Frazier, for Christ's sake. You know what I mean? And he got beat by Trevor Burbick too, but that was at the very end. The last. Go back and listen to Trevor Burbick about three weeks ago there with special guest Dan Cummins. You betcha.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So this is, it's different in MMA. You can lose a bunch and win a bunch and it's kind of, because it's so quick that you can just get, it's not even, I hate to say this, but it's not even a matter, it is a matter of skill like when they're grappling, but when they're standing it's so just. You can catch a stray
Starting point is 00:41:02 foot and it's over. You can catch what I mean and it can be a guy who's not a very good fighter who can catch someone who is. It's so just – You can catch a stray foot and it's over. He gets what I mean. And it could be a guy who's not a very good fighter who can catch someone who is. It's a very even playing field when it comes to that shit. And they're fast with those feet. And a guy who's a great puncher, some guy could just hook him real quick and get him in a submission. It's over with. I mean it's so – it's exciting for that reason. It really is.
Starting point is 00:41:22 His fights are weird too because there's a lot of dancing because people are afraid of his hands. Yeah. And there's a lot of dancing, and then there's always, like, a two-second interaction fights over. Like, that's a lot of his fights. That's great. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Yeah. Now, from 2002 to 2007, this period, he's arrested a bunch. And we don't have the particulars of these arrests. I have, like, a batch of arrests, basically. Awesome. He was arrested for this, this, and this from this time period and i looked god damn it high and low you have no idea i mean florida court records other states i'm like he was in georgia to fight maybe he was there you know how many charles bennett's there are in the world ah that's gotta be crazy a shitload
Starting point is 00:42:01 it's much easier when i'm looking for an Arch Leaster than when I'm looking for a Charles Bennett. It's not that easy anymore. There's a shitload of them as we'll find out later. Searching every orange tree in Florida. That's what I mean. For a record that just blew in. Who knows? Hey, guys.
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Starting point is 00:43:59 What? He's arrested for possession of MDMA. Oh, God. So he's taking ecstasy, too, on top of everything. There's cocaine and everything else. Possession of that. Also arrested for assault during this time period. Of course.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And I think there's five, six arrests, but that's the group of charges that he accumulates. From August 2005 to September 2005, he has a draw and then two straight losses. After all of this? Yeah. He's getting arrested. He's losing fights. He's really draw and then two straight losses. After all of this? Yeah. He's getting arrested. He's losing fights. He's really up and down, this guy. I mean, I can't imagine what it's like in his head.
Starting point is 00:44:30 It's got to be exhausting. Oh, my God. That's the other thing. What the fuck? How exhausting can you be? The chemicals running around, the brain damage, the lesions on that brain must be ridiculous. Between chemical poisoning as well as the fighting, it's got to be just— And like we said, who knows if he was a crack baby on top of that?
Starting point is 00:44:47 You have no idea. He was only 5'5". Maybe he was. Maybe. It does tell you growth. I'd really want to know how big his parents are now. I want to know if his dad's like 5'3". I'm okay with this.
Starting point is 00:44:55 This is fine. But if dad's 6'0", and mom's like 5'11", we've got a problem. There's problems. Yeah. I'd like to know—well, I'd like to know his brothers' and sisters' sizes, but they all came from his mother, so who the hell knows. Who knows. So, yeah, he loses these fights both by submission, the ones that he fights. At least the losses were against linkers.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. So at least he's not losing against nobodies. He's 16-10-2 at this point, so the record's starting to look a little less impressive. It's getting shaky. December 11, 2005 in California, he fights at an event called GC46 Avalanche. Okay. Ooh, he fights Uriah Faber. Oh.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Who's actually a good fighter. He's a monster. He's a monster, yes. Uriah Faber is 9-1 coming into the fight. Okay. He turns out to be 34-10 for his career. And a goddamn good fighter. I heard of this guy.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And I'm not a big fan, but I've heard of this guy. This is for the King of the Cage Bantamweight Championship. Oh championship oh this fight because that's uriah faber's holding the title so they say hey here's some guy who you know gets draws and loses all the time let's fight him in there uh charles loses a first round submission rear naked choke again to him uh it's 4 30 4 minutes 38 seconds into the first round he's 16 11 and11-2. That was his big chance. Yeah. If he would have beat him. He's a contender. He would have been a champ.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And that's the thing. This guy can beat anybody. And we'll even find out. Size wasn't even a consideration, as we'll find out in a little while. Actually, we're going to find that out very soon here. But size isn't a consideration. He's just got a knockout punch. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:25 He's got one of the—for a guy his size, he hits like nobody else. Just one of those guys that just has a punch. Just has a punch. For a guy who weighs nothing and is tiny, it's amazing that he does that. I mean, Tyson weighed a lot. Tyson was going. Yeah, he was fighting at 210, 220. But he was so short. He was 5'11", 5'10".
Starting point is 00:46:36 He's swinging up. Oh, God. His uppercuts were crazy. This guy just looks like a tiny little guy. He really does. But everyone he's fighting is tiny, too. Yeah. Yeah, they're fighting his weight.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So December 31st, New Year's Eve 2005. He is in Saitama, Japan. Again, they let him go there. Jesus. I love this. The Saitama Super Arena. Everything in Japan is the Super. Everything, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:59 The Super Excellent Arena. Right. Saitama Super Excellent, very good arena. I feel like that's what they're going to do. And buffet. Right. And buffet. All of the Asian, all of the Chinese buffets are always like super terrific, happy buffet.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Great China buffet. Why is it so great? It's not great. This is the Pride Shockwave 2005. The funny thing is here, this shit is popular. Really? In Japan, this event draws 49,801 people to the show. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:28 That's incredible. I mean, they got a lot of people. But to this event, 50,000 people. 50,000 for a Pride Shockwave 2005? For nothing. That's what football stadiums hold. For no stars. Yeah. No. You don't know these people. That's fucking
Starting point is 00:47:43 amazing, honestly. That's incredible. That's how into this they are in Japan. And he's popular't know these people. That's fucking amazing. Honestly, that's incredible. That's how into this they are in Japan. And he's popular there because they've never seen anything like him before. It's like, who is this crazy guy? 50,000 people. You're not even getting a close seat to that. You can't even see what's going on. No, it's a stadium.
Starting point is 00:47:56 It's like a giant stadium. He's a different kind of guy. He's a little cocky, exciting black dude that does crazy shit that they don't have in Japan. They just don't have that personality over there. And he's American, and they can't root hard enough against us. But they like him, though. Really? Because he's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:11 They're just like, oh, this guy's – and he fights with heart. They like that over there. But anyway, he fights Ken Kaneko is this guy he's fighting over there. He wins by first-round submission with an arm bar. But that's only the tip of the iceberg of this night. That's barely even scratching the surface of this night. This is only his first fight of the night. He has several others that we're going to get into.
Starting point is 00:48:34 He fights the same night? No, no, not in the ring. Backstage now. He's going to go have a couple more fights. All right, all right, all right. He's 17-11-2 after this win. It's funny, this win, all right, all right. He's 17-11-2 after this win. It's funny, this win, too. It really is.
Starting point is 00:48:49 It's an easy win, and he's very excited about it. His antics are awesome. He comes in the ring. He looks like the old Dirty Bastard, by the way, half the time. Really? He looks like old Dirty Bastard on the cover of old Dirty Bastard's Return to the 36 Chambers album, where he's got the food stamp card on there. That's what he looks like 2010 on.
Starting point is 00:49:07 He's got crazy hair. He's got gold grill in. He's got a grill. He's got a grill while he's fighting. Awesome. He's fighting with a mouth guard on top, grill on the bottom. What is happening here?
Starting point is 00:49:17 He's fighting with $50,000 worth of teeth in his mouth. That's mini-ODB. He's hilarious. I love ODB because he had so many nicknames, too. Oh, he's the best. Oh, God. I've never heard of a rapper brag about having gonorrhea as something that he should tell you about. There's like eight old Dirty Bastard songs where he references his bouts with gonorrhea. I'm like, this guy is crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And that's kind of what this guy's like. He really is. So ghetto and so gangster. I love it. He's the old dirty MMA fighter. He is dirty. That's for sure. This is backstage New Year's Eve after the fight.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Like I said, Charles wins his fight. After the fight, in the ring, because there's different crews. They have crews that accompany people to the ring of different fighters. These fighters have teams. They're entourage. They're teams. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The fighters hang out together, and they all train together of different weight classes.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Okay, yeah. So there's a fighter named Cristiano Marcello. And he's on his team. You know who he is? Cristiano Marcello. He's a famous fighter too. He is in the ring, around the ring, and he's telling Bennett after the fight while Charles is in the ring, while Crazy Horse is in the ring, he's telling him that he wants to fight
Starting point is 00:50:23 him. He's like, I want to fight you. I want to fight you. Same weight class? Yeah, they're around the same weight him. He's like, I want to fight you. I want to fight you. Same weight class? Yeah, they're around the same weight class. He's like, I want to kick your ass, he's telling him. So Charles is saying, whatever, I just want to fight. Go away.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He goes, I just got paid. I'm not trying to deal with your ass. Fuck you. He leaves the ring, goes backstage, and he's got a locker room that he shares. They go three fighters to a locker room. He's sharing a locker room with Vanderlei Silva. Oh God. You know, Vanderlei Silva is right. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a bad dude. He's huge. In 2004, he won like every best MMA fighter award
Starting point is 00:50:55 in the world. Basically he's a bad motherfucker. And this is 2005. So this is prime too. He's 185 pounder. Charles is so big. Charles is a buck 45.. Let's keep that in mind. You don't want to take that punch. Absolutely. So he's sharing it with Vanderlei Silva and who's the 185 pound champion and also a fighter named Josh Thompson. They're in there. Now backstage Marcello, Cristiano Marcello
Starting point is 00:51:18 comes over and accuses Charles Bennett of talking shit. It's like I heard you were talking shit about me. I heard you were talking shit in the ring. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Apparently, Charles is just blowing him off going, all right, well, whatever. Fucking he's telling him, you know, if you want to fight, it's going to be in the ring for money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Because I don't fight in the back. I fight in the ring for money. So he goes, you signed that contract. And he's saying, like, the guy who arranges the fights, he's like, he's right over there. Go talk to him. Yeah. I'll sign my name. We'll get in the ring and we'll make some money doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:51:43 That's what I'm saying. That's a smart move. So Marcello or Marcello, whatever we'll call him, Marcello. Marcello walks away. And I guess as he's walking away from what Charles says, Charles smiled at him. Like, yeah, I'm like, yeah. Go get it done. Go get it done, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Like, yeah, go, whatever. Marcello gets fucking heated. Really? Gets insanely pissed. Comes over, starts saying, why are you smiling at me? You think I'm gay? You think I'm gay? Every time we do an MMA,
Starting point is 00:52:10 they are paranoid about people thinking they're gay. Like, literally, that's the first thing. Like, someone could just knock over your Pepsi and they'd be like, what do you think, I'm gay?
Starting point is 00:52:20 And then we'll try to fight you. It's the weirdest shit that has nothing to do with gayness. What is with dudes though? They're sweaty dudes in their underwear in missionary position on a fucking mat with another guy paranoid about being gay. You'd think you'd be secure in your sexuality if you were dry humping a man every month and a half.
Starting point is 00:52:35 What is with the smile or the laugh is such a problem. I've done it so many times when people want to fight me in bars or whatever. I laugh and that sets them the fuck off. This wasn't even laughing. What is that? And it wasn't even like you're laughing at me. He said, what do you think I'm gay? You're smiling at me like, were you coming on to me?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Which is, makes no sense at all. Well, that girl was sparkling and he's like, is he, is he trying to propose to me? What's going on here? This is pre-grill, pre-grill. Oh, all right. It's like, why did he smile? Yeah. He's like, Marcelo's like, if you're, if you're not saying I'm gay like why did he smile yeah he's like a marcello's like if you're if
Starting point is 00:53:05 you're not saying i'm gay why'd you smile at me like that's the only reason you can smile at someone is if you're trying to have sex with them especially gay sex especially gay sex every every gay sexual encounter starts with a smile absolutely starts with a smile i saw which he's got a point no it doesn't no no it started real not that one. Real grunty and just. I feel like most gay encounters start with a smile, right? I don't know. I guess. I think most any encounter starts with.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I mean, what's the opposite of a smile? Like, that's not going to get too late. No, that's what I mean. So you've got to start with a smile. So maybe Marcelo had a point. I'm not sure. The smile is opening the door. Either way, Bennett gets up.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Crazy Horse gets up here. And Marcelo gets in a few of what Bennett calls cheap shots. I guess he threw punches first. They lock up. They start like tussling on the ground. What happens is Marcelo gets him in like this triangle deal with his legs around his head. Triangle deal. And Bennett's like picking him up like that and like slamming him on the ground while he's doing it. But the dude's just holding legs around his head yeah triangle deal and Bennett's like picking him up
Starting point is 00:54:05 like that and like slamming him on the ground while he's doing it okay it's just holding on to his head yeah and eventually Marcello puts him out he puts him to sleep really eventually he's yeah he eventually locks it down triangle around his throat around his throat and puts him to sleep like that so you know they've this is after he was banging him on the ground everything else so Bennett's asleep and there's video footage of this, by the way. Awesome. I've seen this backstage fight. Now, what happens after this is cut out of it.
Starting point is 00:54:30 But many people saw it. Bennett says it to the people that it happened to. You know what happened. And other people witnessed it and backed him up on this. Wow. One thing I'll give him, he doesn't lie a lot about shit, Bennett. He'll tell you when he fucked up and then he'll try to make excuses. But he'll tell you. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:54:46 he gets put to sleep with a triangle. He's laying on the ground, flat on his back, just out cold. Vulnerable. And somebody comes and kind of nudges him and he wakes up and you see him wake up and open his eyes and he looks down. And this is where the video cuts out, but apparently there's another video
Starting point is 00:55:02 of him explaining it later on in a hotel room. It's fucking hilarious. Him telling the whole tale which is so funny so he's out cold when he wakes up vanderlei silva is kicking his legs like kicking at him like a fucking asshole but he's like kicking at his legs right so charles pops up this is after he was just unconscious no he pops up and gets in his face. They talk a little shit. Apparently, Bennett knocks him out with one punch. What? Charles socks him one, drops him.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Drops Vandal A. Silva. One punch. Wow. And this is, he is still pissed about this to this day, as we'll get into. This is not their last encounter. After he was knocked out, he came to and got up and knocked out one of the biggest people you've ever seen. He got 40 pounds on him. Yeah. And he just fought, too. Yeah. And that's what Charles Bennett's
Starting point is 00:55:49 saying. He's like, yeah, Marcelo put me to sleep. Yeah, that's happened. He goes, what the fuck do you expect? I just fought. Yeah. He goes, I won my fight over four minutes in the round. He goes, I just fought. I was tired. I'm not going to be wrestling with people. And also, the guy's a better wrestler than you. And he just got caught. And he's like, man, that happens, man. He's like, hey, you know, I got caught. He goes, but Silva, he got caught you. And he just got caught. And he got you in a triangle. And he said, man, that happens, man.
Starting point is 00:56:05 He's like, hey, you know, man, I got caught. He goes, but Silva, he got caught worse. He hadn't fought yet. So he knocks him out. This is going to begin a decade, a feud of a decade. Really? Yeah. So he hits him.
Starting point is 00:56:18 About this time, Silva, who's got his whole crew there, a bunch of large Brazilian men surround the situation. You've got Charles standing over an unconscious Silva. They're not happy about this. So Charles, being semi-intelligent at least, makes a run for the door. Hilarious. Because he says, they're going to fuck me up. He said, they're huge.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And he goes, it was just me and a bunch of the Japanese people. Because this is in Japan. It was the Japanese people that worked there. And the way he said it, he goes, Japanese people? Real small. He goes, real small dudes. He goes, are they? He goes, Silva's dudes?
Starting point is 00:56:52 All huge. He's like, so the Japanese people ain't helping me. He's like, I better get the fuck out of here. Hilarious. Small dudes. Small dudes. He's like, they're small. So he runs.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Bennett, he makes a run for the door, right? And as he's trying to get out the door, he's like, I small so he runs bennett he makes a run for the door right and as he's trying to get out the door he's like i'm trying to open the door and one of dudes one of silva's crew grabs him so bennett's like i'm kicking at him kicking away trying to get him off of me so he goes i pop the door i get it open i fall out the door okay he goes so i'm on the ground and i'm laying there and then two seconds later the door pops open and it's Silva standing there. Oh, shit. And he's fucking pissed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:27 He's super pissed. Right. So he's he wants to restart it. He's like, all right, let's do this now. Bennett pops up dancing backwards and says, I just knocked you the fuck out. I'm gone. And runs away. Fucking runs away.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And Silva can't chase him. No, he's got a fight. And he's also fast as shit. He's this little guy. And he just runs away. And he's like, I knocked you the fuck out. I'm out. And just runs. And Silva's like, him. No, he's got to fight. And he's also fast as shit. He's this little guy, and he just runs away. And he's like, I knocked you the fuck out. I'm out. And just runs.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And Silva's like, I'll kill you. Imagine the steam coming out of his cauliflower ears right now. Pissed. Cauliflower ears. He's fucking pissed. Hilarious. He has some bad cauliflower ears. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:57:58 You could see it from a good distance in a fight there. Those things are so scary. Yeah. That alone makes me not ever want to MMA fight. God, no. That is so gross. Mangle in my ears. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:58:09 No way, man. I got earphones to put on. I got headphones. I got to do a show here. I don't want that shit to swell my ears shut. That's sick. No, that's the other thing, too. They pop open and bleed.
Starting point is 00:58:18 It's terrible. So this is amazing. So after they fought, he said, out of this whole thing, Charles, the main thing is he wanted to fight Marcelo in the ring. He's like, I want to fight that dude in the ring. Like, whatever. And he's even saying, I'll fight Silva in the ring. I don't give a fuck about weight or anything. He's like, I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:58:34 He goes, I knocked his ass out once. He goes, that'll be worth a lot of money. He's just looking at money. He's not scared. He just wants a good payday. Silva will kill him. I would think so. Silva's, he still wants to fight Silva.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Really? We'll get into this later. Jesus. So, anyway, after this fight, Silva's been knocked out cold. He's got to go fight still. Yeah. He hasn't fought yet. Right. So it's funny because for years the Japanese promoters told Charles not to tell anyone about this. That's why they cut it out
Starting point is 00:59:00 of the video. Really? Because they can't send a guy out who just got a concussion backstage out to fight. Good point. So that would be bad for their promotions. They were like, hey, but we kind of needed the fight because he was the champ. Right. The other thing, too, is like, don't show the video of me getting my ass kicked then.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. That's not fair. No. Yeah, but they do. I just thought. That looks shitty. Apparently Silva's people released a video of a cut out of just charles bennett doing his thing so whatever he didn't care he was happy to admit it uh so yeah
Starting point is 00:59:29 he goes out and defends his championship that night silva uh silva's fight goes the distance really because yeah he probably wasn't that sharp he was probably just pissed off at bennett too he's probably distracted uh he wins a split decision so he almost fucking lost i mean he had one judge going no i, I don't think so. You're, you lost. So against a guy named Ricardo Arona. Okay. I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Uh, so he was so altogether Silva's one-on-one on the night. Look at it that way. Yeah. That's pretty solid. Bennett's two-in-one on the night. That's not bad. And he fought up in weight class. And he fought up in weight class.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Pretty good. Uh, still Silva though, never wants though, never stops wanting to kill Charles. He rides crazy horses, fucking head on a pike. It's amazing. So February 2006 to June 2006, coming off of this, you'd think he'd be riding high, Charles, right? He's doing great. Everything's fine.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Loses his next three fights. Really? Yep. Loses them. Two of them were to linked opponents. At least they were decent. All three of them were by first round submission. Yeesh.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So he got caught early and often there. One fight was a guy against a guy named Buddy Clinton, who's a non-linker. But we'll bring him up in a second because this guy, as much as he's a non-linker, he does a couple impressive things, including beating Charles in 18 seconds. Whoa. 18 seconds rear naked choke. So he caught him early. That's fast.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And there's going to be another fight where he gets somebody else fast that he shouldn't have gotten, where you're like, who is this guy, Buddy Clinton? He's a non-linker, but he's beaten two guys in under a minute that are good. That's awesome. It's so weird. He's 17-14-2 after this, so the record's getting close to 500. It's not good. Not great.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Wins his next fight in July, though. Okay. Wins his record to 18-14-2. Now, February 10, 2007, we're in South Haven, Mississippi. Obviously, the Disneyland of the— It's a haven. That's why Haven is the name. Guys, this is where we all dream to go in America.
Starting point is 01:01:19 If you're not from America, if you're a foreign listener, we all grow up in wherever we grow up in. And then we say someday. One day. If I can make it there. I got to just make enough cash. I can make it anywhere. You betcha. I can make it in South Haven, Mississippi.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I'll make it anywhere. I know Sinatra, New York, but no, that's not. He meant South Haven. It just didn't rhyme as well as New York. New York has a very rhythmic thing. South Haven didn't. It had too many syllables. And the city and the state named the same thing.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Too many syllables. There's no other city. There's no other place like that. You had to do it. There's no Nevada, Nevada. No, there really isn't. That's true. There's Jersey City, New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:01:53 There is. But it's not Jersey, Jersey. No, no. It's true. That's a really good point. It's not New Jersey, New Jersey. That's a good point. So they're in South Haven for the Elite XC Destiny.
Starting point is 01:02:04 He's fighting KJ Nunes, who at the time was like a kind of a hot up-and-comer. Like he had some heat behind him. They say during the fight, I watched this fight, they say he's 3-0. And there's some places that say he's 3-0. And there's some places that say he lost one of his first four fights. Some say he's 3-1. And the one loss they're saying he had was against Buddy Clinton in 25 seconds. The same guy who just beat Charles Bennett.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So apparently under 30 he'll wrap your ass up and make you submit, but there's no link to him, so I couldn't find out anything else other than he's an ass-kicking bad man. So he fights KJ Nunes, who we'll say is 3-0 coming in. Lots of hype. Apparently Nunes talks shit during the weigh-in. Those are my favorite, though. Yeah. Have you seen that video on YouTube that's like a guy that cleverly talks shit every time he does a weigh-in?
Starting point is 01:02:51 That's terrific. It's like Muhammad Ali. Like he goes up with like his fists up and a guy has his fists up and then he does paper rock scissors with the guy and he wins and then he just like puts his hands up in the air. That's just funny. That seems like he's just entertaining himself. I think he kisses somebody. He does some pretty wild. It's hilarious. That's pretty funny. Find that hands up and that's just funny that seems like he's just entertaining himself i think he kisses somebody he does some pretty wild it's hilarious that's
Starting point is 01:03:07 pretty fun find that i like that that's good that stuff i like talking shit is well there's a purpose there's a purpose and the announce the announcers talk about the fact that what he's trying to do what noon's is trying to do they're both stand-up fighters and noon's is a fighter he's a striker yeah punches kicksay Thai he did and shit like that. He has Muay Thai training. So what he's trying to do is he's trying to get Bennett to stand up and exchange blows with him, basically. Okay. He's like, that's his chance of winning.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I've got to get this guy. Let's punch this out. Yeah, I've got to get him to come at me, and I can kick him and do whatever I need to do. So that's what he's trying to do is piss him off. He's like, this guy's a crazy horse. Maybe he's not that mentally stable. Maybe I can get him to do what he wants. Maybe?
Starting point is 01:03:47 Have you seen his rap sheet? He's definitely mentally unstable. We're using some psychology here against him. So he talks shit during the weigh-in. Charles, when they get into the ring to fight, they have to touch gloves. Charles won't touch gloves with him. Oh, a little disrespectful. He refuses to touch gloves.
Starting point is 01:04:00 He waves it off. So Nunes is pissed, you can tell. He waves his hands down. He's talking shit, walking away like he's a fucking asshole, blah, blah, blah. So he's pissed off. He's is pissed you can tell he like waves his hands down he's talking shit walking away like he's a fucking asshole blah blah so he's pissed off he's rattled noon's at this point it's funny he talked shit noon's talked the shit right and now bennett's rattled him in the ring so he's smart like that uh they dance around for three minutes the crowd is booing really booing unmercifully because they're doing nothing awesome one guy will come in and like throw a kick at his leg and then then they'll throw a jab, and there's nothing going on.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I could do this. It's a fixed fight. They're not doing anything. What the fuck are you doing? At one point, the announcers are like, yeah, this is Mississippi. They want to see some action down here. They're telling them, you guys got to fight. You're here to fight.
Starting point is 01:04:39 What are you doing, guys? We've got $19 beers in our hands. You guys better throw some punches. Pick it up. This is the opener, too, of the card. Oh, hands. You guys better throw some punches. Pick it up. And this is the opener, too, of the card. Oh, God. So they're like, come on. And you expect when you get Crazy Horse, they expect this is going to be action-packed.
Starting point is 01:04:52 He's going to do crazy shit. This is going to be great. Anyway, he lands a right hand at some point. Charles lands a right hand. They had two little exchanges. That's it. Charles lands a right hand and drops Nunes like nobody's business. Great.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I mean, it's a good pop. It's a solid pop. Nunes hits the ground. And you just see this look come over Charles like, there it is. And he just jumps on him and starts whooping his fucking. Nice. Starts pummeling his head. The referee is trying to dive on it as fast as he can to get him off of him because it was over when he hit the ground.
Starting point is 01:05:25 He was out. He was already done. Bennett was like, let's make sure. Pop, pop, pop. Yeah, you want to talk shit during a weigh-in, motherfucker? So he's going after him like that. Ref waves off the fight. Charles goes crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Really? Because he was an underdog. He was supposed to lose. Oh, really? Nunes was the big he's three and oh. He's the big up and comer. He's supposed to be just a stepping stone. He just knocked his ass out.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Charles treated him like a pregnant woman. Charles treated him like a pregnant woman. He treated him like a pregnant woman, exactly, without the choking. He runs around the ring and then in one, it's amazing that he can do it, such a short guy, pops himself up on top of the cage. You know, like on the top of the cage. No, no, no, stands on top of it. Wow. Facing the crowd.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Grabs it, pops himself up like in one motion. Wow. Stands up on top of the cage facing the crowd and does a massive backflip into the ring. Really? Lands in the middle of the ring. Awesome. That's how far he took this backflip. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Both of my knees would explode if I hit the ground like that. That backflip's more impressive than the knockout. It was. He was, you know, at least 15 feet in the air doing this. It was, it's super impressive, the backflip. I can't get over how he did this. I was like, that's fucking ballsy. That's way more dangerous than fighting.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Way more dangerous. So this brings him to 19, 14, and 2. And he's got a little heat because he just beat somebody that he wasn't supposed to beat. So that's good. March 2007 to July 2007, he wins his next two fights against non-linkers, both by KO. So now we're we're moving along one of the fights by the way was in laughlin arizona so that tells you the level of place they're doing laughlin arizona if you're near laughlin nevada i mean okay if you're not from
Starting point is 01:06:53 the southwest where the fuck is that laughlin is vegas's taint yeah laughlin is way worse than that it's it's vegas's dingleberry dangling from its taint, basically. It's a horrible, shitty, gambling is legal. There's like a man-made river and gambling and- On boats. And bikers. It's weird. And bowling alleys. Yeah, that's where all the Hells Angels brawls ever occur.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah, that's their Vegas because it's cheap. Like you can go get a room for $12. Right. It's like Vegas was in the 70s. They just want you to gamble. Come on, rooms are $12. We don't care. Just gamble.
Starting point is 01:07:29 It's Vegas in the 70s and the prices haven't changed. That's exactly what it is. We had to stop there one time, a sidebar here, driving back. It was super late and everybody was tired. We stopped in Laughlin and we got a big room at a casino for $11. That's hilarious. $11. And it was like a big room at a casino for $11. That's hilarious. $11. And it was like a big, clean, nice room.
Starting point is 01:07:48 We were like, this is awesome. They still have penny slots. If you've been to Vegas, they have penny slots, but you put like dollar bills in, and then you can play like 30 or 500 pennies at a time. It's legit penny slots, and you put a copper fucking penny in and spin the wheel. You can bring your dirty penny with gum stuck to it from
Starting point is 01:08:06 the bottom of your purse and throw it right in there no problem you can you can make 14 if you really really kill it get yourself a room in the buffet all week i'm telling you so these fights that'll do it there too that's like what that's like what 9 12 20 22 for that that's a small room yeah they can do that they give you a deal for the week, so I figure they're discounting it. You get a bed and a toilet. That's it. This was a big, it was impressive. So one of these fights was in this shithole Laughlin.
Starting point is 01:08:33 21-14-2 now, so at least he's starting to make a distance between his wins and his losses. So he's doing well here, right? This is good. May 2007, he's arrested in Florida. So he's doing well here, right? This is good. May 2007, he's arrested in Florida. He is charged with assault and false imprisonment this time, which is not great.
Starting point is 01:08:51 This case is going to go on. I think that's legal in Laughlin. He should have just stayed there. I think it is, actually. He should have stayed there, especially only if you're in a biker gang. It's legal then. You have to show your colors first, and then they're like, okay. Assault and unlawful imprisonment is basically what the hotel is convicted of every week in your pocket.
Starting point is 01:09:18 So he because of this arrest, he does not get out of jail in time and misses a flight to San Jose for his next fight and is dropped from the card. And this is not the first time or the last time this is going to happen. Really? No, no. This is common for him. He got arrested and missed a flight. He got arrested. He couldn't get out of jail in time. They had to process him and do all that. He can't fight in that card in late May. The fight he was supposed to have was against Victor Valenzuela
Starting point is 01:09:35 and it was a strike force card. Apparently these charges were a violation of his probation. They had to hold him a little longer in Marion County, Florida. Yeah, because he's got all sorts of, anytime he gets arrested, it's a problem. We're dipping back into more old charges and everything else. We've got to check the books.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah, we've got to look and see what this violates. Yeah, exactly. So August 2007 to October 2007, he has one win and one loss, both versus non-linkers. He's 22-15-1, just kicking it around. This will be his last fight until June 2009. This is October 2007. He had a fight scheduled. He does have one scheduled for January of 2008.
Starting point is 01:10:13 He's supposed to compete in the King of the Cage card on January 24th of 2008. But on the 18th of January, he is arrested for domestic violence. God damn it. And kicked off the card. This is not domestic violence as you would think of it. This is domestic violence against his girlfriend's, his brother's girlfriend. Oh, my God. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:35 This is the first time he'll get in trouble for fighting his brother's girlfriend. Really? Yeah. A woman named Amber Novak. Okay. He insists that she she starts everything she comes at him yeah and he's as they do and he in quotes about this he calls her consistently a fat fucking bitch and i'm this isn't me talking this is him talking calls her a fat fucking bitch
Starting point is 01:10:59 and a monster and says that bitch is three times the size of me fuck that that. Blah, blah, blah. Why I get in trouble. She comes and hits me three times my fucking weight. I hit her back. And I'm the bad guy. Blah, blah, blah. He has no remorse for hitting this woman at all. I'm going to give her some credit, though. She's a gangster for fighting a guy that fights MMA.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah, well, she doesn't expect him to fight him. She doesn't expect him to whoop her ass, probably, too. She probably goes, I'm a woman, and I'm his brother's girlfriend he's probably not gonna sock me in the jaw and he says oh no i'll sock you in the jaw no problem the other thing like how do you say that about your brother's girlfriend like she's a fat fucking bitch that's crazy he says this for years because we'll get in here so amber's tough i like her. So 2008, later on in the year, he's found guilty of aggravated battery in this situation. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing.
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Starting point is 01:13:49 So he's in jail in early 2008. And while he's in jail, something that he was doing outside the ring airs on television. Something good for him actually happens. And this is what I mean. This is as good as it gets. He's winning fights. He's on this really interesting thing that's good for him. And then he goes to prison because he's a fucking moron.
Starting point is 01:14:08 He can't capitalize on his momentum. March 2008, The Iron Ring show on BET premieres. Awesome. BET, if you're not from America, is black entertainment television. It's a black station. I guess they play, you know. It's all about things that happen in the black community. And they try to build each other up and try to promote uh black things black entertainment black uh black driven entertainment
Starting point is 01:14:30 in the 90s they would play videos with with much less cut out right great like if you saw the dr dray nothing but a g thing video the we leaf on dude's hat was still there like shit like that you can see the socks logo on his hat because they called it gang affiliated on mtv that's what i'm saying shit like that. But yeah, so it premieres. This is a show where basically what they have is it's celebrity team owners is what they do. And they have Floyd Mayweather, Ludacris, Nelly, Lil Jon.
Starting point is 01:14:56 The star power. And T.I. Holy shit. Yeah, these are all, this is a lot of, this is a big deal. Especially 2008. These people were top tier. How did they afford all those people? They wanted to do it because MMA was getting a big deal. Especially 2008. These people were top tier. How did they afford all those people? They wanted to do it because MMA was getting a big deal.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And what they would do is these team owners, they'd each have a coach who was an MMA fighter. And they would pick young fighters out. And they would be trained by the coach. And the team owner would pick them out. So Ludacris was training people? No, no. He's the team owner. OK.
Starting point is 01:15:21 And then they'd each have an MMA fighter who's a coach. And then they would pick these young guys out, train them, and then they would fight against the other teams. Gotcha. In a competition at the end to see who had the best team. So kind of like that shit on Spike, but with- But black. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:33 So it's the black version of that. Like black steel magnolias. Right. Except this is probably much better. Steel magnolias. This is probably much better. Holy shit. Well, they made a word for word remake of the black.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah. And it pissed every woman I know off. I don't know why. Even black women were like, they made it shitty. I'm like black. It pissed every woman I know off. I don't know why. Even black women were like, they made it shitty. I'm like, okay, I don't know what happened. I don't know anything about that. And the whiz. But that at least wasn't a remake. It wasn't a remake. It's good, too. So they all have these fighter coaches. Bennett is
Starting point is 01:15:55 T.I.'s coach. Charles is on this fucking show as T.I. He's hanging out with fucking T.I. This is good for him. If you weren't in prison, that is. If you were on the outside to capitalize on this. Amazing. Excellent. But instead, he's in jail. Nelly's team eventually wins the whole thing. Really?
Starting point is 01:16:11 In case you're curious. Do they all have band-aids over their eyes? God, I hope so. That would be perfect. This is stupid. So we have an in their own words about while he was in jail and his wasted ability here. He says in their own words, quote, when I was in the county jail, a lot of officers, and now I'm going to say here, this is expletive, and I've heard him talk a million times. And he either says, motherfucker or nigga.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's the two things he's going for. I'm going to go with motherfucker because I'm much more comfortable saying that. So I'm going to go with motherfucker. The other one makes comfortable saying that. So I'm going to go with motherfucker. The other one makes me uncomfortable a little bit to say it out loud. I hate it so much. He says, in their own words, start over, quote, when I was in the county jail, a lot of officers and motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:16:55 that were coming in and out of jail were coming in and saying, you know, I just saw you on BET with TI, Young Dro. Every time that I would turn around, people were coming in and out of jail would come up to me and be like, dude, you're too talented for this shit. with T.I., a young dro. Every time that I would turn around, people were coming in and out of jail, would come up to me and be like, dude, you're too talented for this shit. All right. So in jail, they're all like, man, I just saw what the fuck.
Starting point is 01:17:12 And he's like, yeah, I could be capitalizing, but instead I'm an idiot. And I beat up my brother's girlfriend because I'm a jackass. So he finally gets out in 2009. Yeah. After wasting any heat that he could have had. This is his first fight back is June 6, 2009. This is a full year after this airs. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:17:28 So his heat's gone. All of it. Nobody even remembers that shit. Nope, gone. Could have had something. He blew it. This is the story. He has bad timing, this guy.
Starting point is 01:17:37 He fights in Winter Haven, California. It's the King of the Cage Legends fight. Winter Haven? Winter Haven, California. Oh, God. That's what I mean. They're all dumpy. It's so out in the middle of nowhere. All these casinos Haven, California. Oh, God. That's what I mean. They're all dumpy. It's so out in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:17:47 All these casinos are out in the middle of nowhere. It's like, yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's where- Shit casinos. Right. Shit casinos of people traveling through in their fucking RVs or trucks or whatever, and that's what's there. So, yeah, King of the Cage Legends is what it's called.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I guess they're bringing back legends. Okay. I don't know. Whatever. He loses a split decision to a non-linker named Anthony McDavitt. So that's what he does. He comes out and that's his big foray. Rather than being
Starting point is 01:18:12 on a hot streak from the TV show and all that, he's losing to a guy no one's ever heard of. He's 22-16-2. He wins his next fight in August of 2009, bringing him to 23-16-2. Now, 2010. He decides he's no longer going by Crazy Horse. He has had it with Crazy Horse.
Starting point is 01:18:30 What's the new one? He has decided he will now be called Kid Chaos. Oh, boy. That's the new thing. He says it's better, he says, quote, to be a better role model. That's the reason. He doesn't like the Native American racial undertones there? No, no.
Starting point is 01:18:43 He just doesn't want to be, well, we'll all explain in a second here. But he says this is better. He calls it, quote, cuter and funnier. Cuter. This man said cuter. He chokes pregnant women and then goes, that's a cute outfit you got on there. That's adorable, that onesie that you got for when you have that baby. And by the way, Kid Chaos doesn't choke chicks.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Crazy Horse does. Crazy Horse does. That's what it is. But not Kid Chaos. So he says this is better for kids. It sounds better. Kids shouldn't want to look up to a guy with Crazy Horse is his name. Also says, quote, in the next five years, I think I'll be in the movies.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Better chance of being in prison. You get to decide that? Yeah. Let's decide now. It's 2010. Everybody out there, crime and sports play at home game here. Do you think in the next five years the odds are better that he will, A, be in the movies, or B, be in prison? Which do you think?
Starting point is 01:19:28 Think now. I'll give you a little Jeopardy. Everybody vote. Hilarious. Okay. We'll find out. Let's see what he does here. So December 2009 to April 2011, he has seven fights.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Seven in that time period. Loses six of them. Oh, boy. So this is not going well. One fight out of seven. That's good math. Six six of them. Oh, boy. So this is not going well. He's won one fight out of seven. That's good math. Yeah, good job, Jimmy. So 24, 22, and two now.
Starting point is 01:19:53 That's depressing. Getting dangerously close to 500 is bad if you're a fighter. January 18, 2010. Some interesting things happen here. He's in Bernalillo County, New Mexico. Okay, he's moved to New Mexico. What a waste of space that state is. It's horrible.
Starting point is 01:20:10 It's so bad. Sorry, New Mexico. I'm not sorry. It's so fucking ugly. It is. Sometimes there's nice mountains, but most of it's desert and it's horrible. For the most part, it is flat and ugly, and then they try to sell you moccasins and blankets. And fireworks.
Starting point is 01:20:23 And fireworks. That I do enjoy. Fireworks and the speed limit's very high there. Yeah. So you can get through that state quickly as we learn. They want to let you do it. Yeah. As we learn coming back from South by Southwest.
Starting point is 01:20:32 They're like, we know. We know. Pump it through. Yeah. We know you want out. Okay. We get it. So he's living there now.
Starting point is 01:20:37 He's calling it his adopted home. Really? Because I guess he's got a team and a gym that he's working with. Okay. He's working out at the FIT NHB gym. Okay. Okay. He's sparring with a larger guy, just sparring with Tyler Beast East.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Do you guys know who he is? No. Tyler Beast East, we will guarantee you be covering one of these days. Okay. He gets arrested constantly. Awesome. For assault. He's a nutcase.
Starting point is 01:21:02 We will absolutely get to him. I wonder who gave him his nickname. Yeah. Because that's real fucking clever. It's creative. It's creative. He's a nutcase. We will absolutely get to him. I wonder who gave him his nickname. Yeah. Because that's real fucking clever. It's creative. It's creative. It's good. Crazy Horse is better than that.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Even Kid Chaos is better. Tyler Beast East. This guy's an asshole. He's white trash, whatever. Terrific. But in this particular case, he is not in the wrong, and he's just doing fine. Okay. They're sparring.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Things get heated, I guess. Bennett got, Charles gets a little too, chaos here. Yeah. Gets a little too chaotic. Yeah. And starts going at him kind of hard. Gets a little loose. Yeah. Tyler's a big guy. He's like a heavyweight. He just tossed his ass to the ground and said, I told you we weren't going hard. Right. He's like, I said we're fucking just sparring. Right. Chill out, basically.
Starting point is 01:21:38 So he gets up and Charles gets up and they want to fight. He wants to, he wants, you know, he's pissed off. He's in. The gym representative, Tom Vaughn, has a quote over here about this. He said, quote, during routine sparring, tempers flared between Charles and the other fighter. And Charles ended up getting dropped by the larger training partner. So that's what ends up happening here.
Starting point is 01:21:58 They get in with a little bit scuffle. Tyler tosses him to the ground. I think he punched him once or something. He's like a 200-pound guy. He's going to rock this guy. So that ends up happening. They get broken up by everyone in the gym. As you'd figure, they're all on the same team in the same gym kind of fighting together.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Charles quickly leaves the mat. I don't know if he's embarrassed or what. Or maybe he has another motivation. We'll find out. He gets dressed quick and quickly leaves the building. So he's just off the mat, clothes on. He's out the door. He's gone for 15 minutes.
Starting point is 01:22:28 For 15 minutes? For 15 minutes. He comes back 15 minutes later. What did he go get? Walks up to the area where the other guy, where Tyler is, and pulls out a heavy steel pipe he found in the parking lot. Wow. And works Tyler over from behind. Really?
Starting point is 01:22:43 Attacks him from behind, swinging with vicious intent. Took him 15 minutes to find a pipe? He literally went outside and was like, what can I find to whoop this guy's fucking ass? And he's like, this'll do. Who knows how far away he went. He could have gone three parking lots down to find that. He ran all over New Mexico looking for a pipe.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Climbed in a dumpster. I mean, who knows what he's doing? Looked at the construction site. So he works this guy over, attacks him from behind with the pipe. So he's super pissed. Attacks Tyler's knee, elbow, and ribs. Smart enough not to hit him in the head with it, but still he's trying to mess him up and not let him
Starting point is 01:23:13 be able to fight. Police are called because he's being a maniac. Right away, I hope. Yeah, police are called. They let the first fight go because they were in the ring and whatever, but now you're attacking the guy from behind with a pipe. With a weapon. Kind of above and beyond what you're supposed to be doing here. Charles is arrested and charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah. That's a serious charge. That's a good one. That's a good charge. He's held at the Metropolitan Detention Center on $25,000 bail. And that's your metropolitan, really? Berna, Leo, Lilo County, New Mexico? I mean, that's...
Starting point is 01:23:47 I think you're being a little optimistic there. Call it the metropolitan. It's a stretch. Just call it the shithole county jail detention center. So July 2011, this is after all this, a year later, a year and a half later. Yeah. That all kind of is settled and blows over. There's a fluff piece about him.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Oh, they're going to build him up. Who the fuck is writing fluff pieces about this guy? Who's heard of him? But they's a fluff piece about him. Oh, they're going to build him up. Who the fuck is writing fluff pieces about this guy? Who's heard of him? But they write a fluff piece. It's in Bleacher Report. And Charles vows to take his career more seriously. This is like. It's in Bleacher Report?
Starting point is 01:24:15 This is legit. This is a Bleacher Report. I'm good now. Wow. It's just I'm good now. It's fine. He says he's going to take his career more seriously. Says he's done getting in trouble. I'm good now. That's exactly what he says. Says he's going to take his career more seriously, says he's done getting in trouble.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I'm good now is exactly what he says. Says he's trying to get custody of his two children. Don't do that. No. No. No. I don't want. What court's giving you that?
Starting point is 01:24:33 None, thank God. But he's trying to get custody of his children. And we have an in their own words here about his goals with his kids. Oh, great. In their own words, quote, to do for them better than what someone did for me feels really good. My children are very, very important to me, and I don't know what I'd do without them.
Starting point is 01:24:52 We, as men, are looked at to have kids and then just move the fuck on and not be involved in the kid's life after we move on. I take a lot of pride in being part of my kids' lives and giving them a better upbringing than the one I had. The future holds a lot. I've got big plans for my upbringing than the one I had. The future holds a lot. I've got big plans for my family and I in the future.
Starting point is 01:25:07 The future is very bright. What society says you're supposed to have kids and leave and not pay attention to them anymore? That is not part of anything. Listen, it happened to me, and I'm still pissed about it. That's what I mean. I don't know what he's talking about. He said, like, that society tells us that's what we're supposed to do. No, that's not.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Even your own dad you lived with him for christ's sake and he was a fucking crackhead who had a kid with a woman who had 10 other kids with 10 other guys what a crazy thought wow that is this but that's his mindset like i know i'm not supposed to take care of my kids but i feel like i should i don't know what it is i just feel like you know maybe i should take care of my kids once in a while that's hilarious holy shit so unreal that's what he's doing here he also like i said he's still planning it is. I just feel like, you know, maybe I should take care of my kids once in a while. That's hilarious. Holy shit. So, unreal. That's what he's doing here. He also, like I said, he's still planning on being an actor. He's like, I'm still
Starting point is 01:25:49 trying to get in the movies. That's another part of it. But right now, he's... He doesn't know that you don't just get to say that and just get to do it. You just show up and they're like, oh yeah, yeah, come on in, pal. You crazy son of a bitch. That's hilarious. We're looking for an old dirty bastard type. That's what we're looking for right now. Walk into any diner in
Starting point is 01:26:05 LA and be like, why are you here? Because they're going to tell you, I came here to act. I came here to act. And now I'm serving you hash browns and these shitty eggs. Would you like another soda with that? Can I get you a refill on your water, sir? Yeah, that's all it is. I like your grill. I like your grill. That's top notch. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:26:21 If they're looking for an old dirty bastard type, but tiny, he's your guy. So he's super. If they're looking for an old dirty bastard type, but tiny. That's your guy. He's your guy. So he's super focused on training, and we have an In Their Own Words talking about what got him so focused on the training. Oh, great. This is a great quote right here. In Their Own Words. This is in July 2011. In Their Own Words.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Quote, when I got 22 losses, I realized I needed to train. These guys are training every day, all day. In order to compete with these motherfuckers, I have to do the same thing. I've been training every day for five weeks, and I got three more weeks to go before the fight. This is by far the first time I've put in this much work. These motherfuckers. These motherfuckers are doing this shit. Every other word is fuck out of this guy's mouth.
Starting point is 01:27:00 It's awesome. Every word is fuck. When I hit 22 losses, that's when I decided to start training. You know, 20, you think double digits, or even when I got to the 20 mark, I'd think, you know, maybe I should start taking it. But 22, that was a real, the two numbers next to each other just made me think. They were identical. They just looked so.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Just made me think. It was an indicator. It was an indicator that I needed to maybe jog a little bit. It made me think of Clyde Drexler, and then that made me think of working out. You know. So, July. Either that or I'm going to bring a pipe to every fight because I won that one. That fucking worked out. After he lost, he was one and one on that day. So July 23, 2001, this is the fight he's been training for for eight weeks,
Starting point is 01:27:38 five weeks, and another three. It's in Oroville, California. Again, not great. King of the Cage, shockwave. It's at the Gold County Casino where dreams are made, I'm sure. Jesus Christ. It's lots of fucking casinos between Phoenix and L.A. That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:27:54 That's where they all are, in the desert. Everything you name is an exit between here and L.A. Because it's all Indian reservation and all in the middle of the desert. So that's all it is. It's basically, that's it. So he fights non-linker Matt. Fighting at Coachella next? Yes, I believe it is. It's basically, that's it. So he fights non-linker Matt. Fighting at Coachella next? Yes, I believe he is.
Starting point is 01:28:07 It'll be perfect for him. Matt Muramoto, he's fighting. It's a non-linker. He loses a first round submission. Oh, no. To a rear naked choke at 248. So much for training. All that training.
Starting point is 01:28:18 It's the first time he's ever trained. And all that for nothing. He loses to a nobody. To lose the same way. To nobody. To nobody. He's 24, 23, the same way. To nobody. To nobody. He's 24-23-2 now. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:28 September 10, 2011, he gets a first-round TKO win in Santa Fe, New Mexico, at the Buffalo Thunder Resort and Casino. I wrote that. Literally, I'm only telling you about this because I really wanted to say Buffalo Thunder Resort and Casino. That's hilarious. From the Gold County Casino to the Buffalo Thunder. He fights Michael Castile, knocks him out in 56 seconds, making him 25-23-2.
Starting point is 01:28:54 December 2011 to December 2012, one-year period. He has six fights, loses five of them. Oh, my God. So now it's starting to come off the rails. Because also now he's getting into come off the rails because also now he's getting in his mid-30s now he's not like 28 or 27 like he now he's starting to wear physically you start to you can't you're not the same guy anymore no so he has six fights loses five of them four of them are by decision so at least he's training enough to go the distance in these fights
Starting point is 01:29:19 but he's not winning them so it doesn't matter one of the fights is by KO. He loses by KO. Only one linker in the bunch, too. All a bunch of nobodies. He's now 26-28-2. Yeesh. That's a terrible record. Now, December 7th, the last fight he fought, December 7th, 2012, is his last fight for almost three years. Good God, he's
Starting point is 01:29:40 going to do it again? Let's find out why it's his last fight in three years, okay? Now, before we do that, let's let him, let's let him tell us about him. Serenade us into why. Let's let him tell us about, cause he's, he's going to tell you that, you know, he's misunderstood. Let's let him do it. You know, let's let him do it in his own words. What do you say? In their own words, quote, y'all got to understand. I'm not that bad person that they're trying to make me or how they're trying to perceive me.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Anyone that knows me knows that I don't look for trouble and I try my best to stay out of it. I have no regrets in life. People want to criticize me, but no one is perfect in this world. Let's unpack that, okay, first of all. Let's just unpack this bullshit. First of all, Amber might disagree with you. Yeah, I'm not that bad guy that they're trying to make me or how they're trying to perceive. Nobody tries to perceive anything. Perception is, you don't
Starting point is 01:30:27 try. It's just instinctual. It's your perception. So that was a stupid thing to say. Anytime you hear someone say, anyone that knows me knows, that means they're lying. In my experience. Anybody that knows me knows is just saying that nobody knows
Starting point is 01:30:44 this. They know you're an unstable lunatic. It's basically the opposite of what they're going to say next is what it is. Yeah, I don't look for trouble and I stay out of it. No, you don't. And yes, you do. You look for it. Yes, you do. You found a pipe and chased a man in the rain.
Starting point is 01:30:56 That's what I mean. You're happy to find trouble. No regrets in life. I can't unpack that. Maybe he doesn't. I don't know. In his head, he probably doesn't. Can't unpack that.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Maybe he doesn't. I don't know. In his head, he probably doesn't. Now, January 23rd, 2013, Charles is arrested in Ocala, Florida, and he's booked on battery charges. Of who? This is a mess. By the way, from 1999 to now, he's been arrested 14 times. My God. Just so we know.
Starting point is 01:31:19 14 fucking times. And some of those are parole violations. Anybody that knows me knows I stay out of trouble. Anybody that knows me knows I don't get arrested 14 times in less than 14 years. So it's fine. Anybody that knows me is not a cop. Is not a cop. Because otherwise I'd be under arrest.
Starting point is 01:31:33 So this is when Charles releases a video. And it's him standing in the woods. Yeah. With somebody clearly on a cell phone or some sort of something like that. And it's a video of him he's clearly high as fuck yeah something's wrong with him he says his eyes are half closed he's talking real like this and he says i'd say in a 15 minute period he says six times he goes my name's charles bennett jr i'm born 11 20 11 23 79 gives his full name and birth date several times during this interview, which makes no sense of why he's even saying it.
Starting point is 01:32:07 But whatever. This video, he says he's broke. He's like, y'all got to help me. He's asking for money. He's literally saying, anybody, y'all got to help me. Any kind of money. I'm broke. I got nowhere to go.
Starting point is 01:32:18 I got attorney's fees because we're going to get into why he's got attorney's fees because he's going to explain what happened here. He's like, I got attorney's fees. Y'all got to help me. You know, I tried and I'm doing this and I'm trying to do that. He says, I got nothing. I'm broke. I got nowhere to go. Like he's rock fucking bottom.
Starting point is 01:32:35 But he's got a video camera in the internet. Rock bottom. Yeah, someone's holding up a video camera. It's awful. He says he needs to buy an attorney. He claims that Amber Novak, again, brother's girlfriend, attacked him on several occasions, unprovoked, because he doesn't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Like he said, you know, I've got to understand I'm not that bad person. Right. Everybody knows me knows I stay out of trouble. Y'all got to understand that is what he says. She said he would ask, basically he said he would ask his brother, Amber's boyfriend, to stop, to tell her to stop messing with him.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Because she would fuck with him. She'd try to do things to him. I don't know. She's picking on me, y'all. Yeah. I got to fight back. Yeah. He says that he had to stay at his grandmother's house because he had nowhere else to go.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Okay. Now, his grandmother, his uncle lived there, two brothers, and the brother's girlfriend. They all live in this fucking house. It's a fucking mess. It's a mess. Yeah, this is not a good environment. The uncle wanted to kick Charles out, but Charles talked him into letting him stay, saying he has nowhere else to go.
Starting point is 01:33:31 You can't kick me out. Grandma said I could stay here. And basically he says, as long as Charles doesn't mess with anybody, you can stay. He says to Charles, okay? So Charles claims that he had his daughter come over one night while his brothers and Amber were hanging out drinking. He has his daughter there. At this time, probably 13, 12, 13 years old.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Claims Amber was saying bad things about the daughter and laughing. Okay. At the time. This was back in 2008. He's telling about this story. Because this is the same. This is a continuation of all this. Charles claims he took the daughter home at 1 a.m.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Because they were acting so shitty. Kid should have been asleep anyway. I don't know what he was doing up, but whatever. Came back to the house and said that Amber started kicking him. Kicked him in the legs and said what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do? Trying to bait him, I guess. And if she was really drunk and messing with him, maybe that happened.
Starting point is 01:34:20 It's possible. I can see it. It happens. Sometimes women get a little cocky. Everybody. Women, people. She knows that he women get a little cocky. Everybody. Women, people. She knows that he fights. She knows that he fights back. So he claims that, again, he asked his brother, he said the next day, he asked his brother, man, please keep her away from me.
Starting point is 01:34:36 I'm trying to stay out of trouble, of course. He's playing, whatever. Who knows how much of this is true. That's the part that I like most. Yeah. Now, another day he claims there was another dispute with Amber about parking spots in the front yard. He borrowed a guy's car and the gate is locked behind the cars and the guy needed his car and they wouldn't open the gate for him. So there was a big dispute about that with his aunt. The whole story is crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:56 This is so childish. It's so childish. It's so white trash even though they're not white. It's still white trash. Super white trash. Some trailer trash in here. Amber attacks him, he says. It's still white trash.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Super white trash. Some trailer trash in here. Amber attacks him, he says. He says that she pushed him when he came into her room to ask her to unlock the front gate. So the next day, he said he was doing laundry. This is all escalating. When Amber came in and unplugged the washing machine on him while he was doing laundry. So he says that this is all so childish.
Starting point is 01:35:23 This is Jerry Springer right here. This is shit I did to my sisters when I was 12. I swear to God, this is so embarrassing. These are all adults, though. These are people in their 30s. So apparently he goes out in the hallway and his two brothers and Amber are right there. And he said that he yelled, y'all need to leave me alone,
Starting point is 01:35:40 and he slapped a door. Pulled his ass out and wiped a booger on the wall. Totally, yeah. And then ripped her head off her Barbie and threw it down and set it on fire. So he claims that when he slapped the door, Amber got mad and ran up and punched him in the chest. So he said at that point he started hitting her back. Okay. And so he hits her back and he gets arrested.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Yeah. And now he has to go to jail. And he needs money. And he needs money. And he needs money. And he's making videos. Begging for a GoFundMe. Jesus. He's making this video in the woods.
Starting point is 01:36:12 And he hears another guy trudging through. He's like, who the hell's coming here? It's a guy with a bunch of dogs. And it's Bobby Colorado, animal trainer from Fredericksburg, Texas. In the middle of the woods. He's walking the dogs. And he says. from Fredericksburg, Texas.
Starting point is 01:36:24 He's walking the dogs and he says... How is it you come to arrive here? What the fuck is wrong with you? What are you doing? You're in a TV show. You've got rappers with the band-aid on their face. Fucking get to know these guys. Say, hey, help me out a little bit, asshole.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Instead, you're going fucking hitting women, your brother's friends. What is wrong with you? It's your brother's girlfriend. She's twice your size. You're fighting backstage. She's a beast. Look at her.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You're not going to beat her. What's wrong with you? You're fighting up in white class. Come on. Every time you fight, you're fighting up a fighter guy your own size. You're still getting beat by them. I can't even click on him. I go to him.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I say, hey, who kicked your ass? I don't even know because I can't click on the fucking guy because he's got no link. What the fuck's wrong with you? All right, well, I don't know. Get your shit together, all right? I'm going to get out of here. All right, I got dogs. I got to take the dogs. I got to pick up this dog shit.
Starting point is 01:37:12 And then he runs and he goes and he's trained. He's got a lot of animals to train, so he's off of there. Charles is very confused. He doesn't understand where he came from or where he's going. But he says when he got taken to jail for this, he got arrested, that he lost everything. He said his brother stole all of his clothes, all of his jewelry, everything he owned of any value. His brother stole from him while he was in jail when he got arrested for this. This is his claim.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Who knows if it's true? He had no jewelry on, so I don't know. Before that, he had jewelry. So 2013, he is convicted of battery and sentenced to prison. Uh-oh. He is convicted of battery and sentenced to prison. Uh-oh. He serves two and a half years in prison at the Blackwater River Correctional Facility in Milton, Florida.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Not good. This is bad stuff. So now he's in prison. He's still, you know, he's a mess. He's in prison for this. He gets released from prison in 2015, and he decides he's changing his name again. Oh, my God. He gets out of prison, and he says, I am no longer Crazy Horse.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I am no longer Kid Chaos. Right. I am now Felony Charles Bennett. What? And not Charles Felony Bennett. Right. He gets mad at you if you say that. He is Felony Charles Bennett. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:38:22 This one I really dig. He says- So much for cute and cuddly for the kids. You're going to dig it less when he tells you something about it here. He says he came up with felony while in jail, but it stands for something. Uh-oh. It stands for, quote, fuck everybody left offended next year, which doesn't even make fucking sense. Who is he, Gary Busey?
Starting point is 01:38:41 He just wanted to call himself felony, and he tried to come up with fucking words for the letters. That's all it is. So dumb. Fuck everybody left offended next year. What? The stupidest thing in the world. He says he came up with it while he was in jail and that's what he's doing. Plus he says that everyone knows he's crazy.
Starting point is 01:38:58 So he doesn't need – he said he'd call himself crazy before so people would be scared of him saying he's crazy. But now he knows everyone knows I'm crazy. So when I get in the ring with people, that's already in their head. He said, literally said the word embedded. That's already embedded in their mind. He goes, but now they hear felony and he goes, oh shit, I wonder if he has a bunch of felonies. Maybe that's how he got his name. And then they'll be scared of me for that.
Starting point is 01:39:19 We know you do. Yeah, we know. You have felonies for punching women, you fucking moron. Your only assaults are against women and a guy that had his back turned punching women you fucking moron oh your only assaults are against women and a guy that had his back turned while you had a pipe those are your assaults unreal not exactly not exactly fear worthy no so now i mean jesus christ the people of ocala first of all they're embarrassed of him beyond belief i'm insured he could have helped his parents if he did better but he didn't. His mom's probably still a crackhead.
Starting point is 01:39:45 She's probably living in an alley somewhere. His dad's a mess. Eleven brothers and sisters. God knows where he is. He has two goddamn kids. Amber's been paintbrushed. She's been paintbrushed solidly. The poor pregnant woman who got strangled, let's not forget about her.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Tyler Beast East has been hitting the knees, ribs, and elbows with a goddamn pipe. Holy shit, I feel bad for all these fucking people. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Charles Bennett, cloud channel development expert at SAP Global. Or Charles Bennett, director of maintenance at Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority in the greater Philadelphia area. That's a pretty sweet job. Not bad. Charles Bennett, the vice president at Queensborough National Bank and Trust in Augusta, Georgia.
Starting point is 01:40:28 He figured it out. Yeah. Charles Bennett Jr. Oh, shit. Even a junior is a loan closing officer at Citibank in the greater New York City area. Dr. Charles Bennett, MD, is a doctor specializing in family medicine at Calvert Primary Care in Lusby, Maryland. And he's bald and he has a very nice mustache.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Very Jeffrey Tambor-like. And finally, Charles D. Bennett, which is this guy's exact name, Charles D. Bennett. Investment manager in New York City. Went to the University of Alabama. Jesus. Holy shit. He's in the South with this fucking asshole. Those poor people.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Charles D. Bennett, which is this guy's name. That's so bad. So, now, he gets out of jail in 2015 after serving two and a half goddamn years. Yeah. He has his first fight in Sloan, Iowa. Okay. Where the cornfields are paved with gold,
Starting point is 01:41:16 I guess. Just so much class. Which you want to do here. It's at the King of the Cage Harvest of Champions. I love how they put the word harvest in it in Iowa. Harvest.
Starting point is 01:41:24 God. He fights Danny Black. Pun and bastards. Pun and bastards. Fights Danny Black. Wins a first round KO in a minute 41. He's back, folks. He's back.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Who knows what Danny Black was all about. So January 2016 to May 2016, he has four fights, including one against Paul Rodriguez, the star of Million to One from the 80s. Still touring comic books today. I doubt it's Paul Rodriguez, the long-running comedian. I believe it's a different man, but he fights a Paul Rodriguez nonetheless. All four of these fights are non-linkers. He goes two and two in these four fights.
Starting point is 01:42:00 29, 30, and two. A million to one. A million to one. Unbelievable. So now March 31st, 2016, there's. A million to one. A million to one. Unbelievable. So now March 31st, 2016, there's a fluff piece on him. Jesus. We're still doing fluff pieces on this fucking guy? Where's this at now?
Starting point is 01:42:12 Huffington Post. This is all sorts of different ones. Really? The name of the article is, quote, the incredible story of ex-con turned MMA fighter Charles Crazy Horse Bennett. He's not an ex-con turned MMA fighter. He's just a fucking fighter criminal. Let's say he's a criminal fighter. He's a criminal that kept fighting and kept criming. That's not an ex-con turned MMA fighter. He's just a fucking fighter criminal. Let's say he's a criminal fighter.
Starting point is 01:42:25 He's a criminal that kept fighting and kept criming. That's what he did. He did those things really simultaneously. Very parallel. Un-fucking-believable. Criminal fighter would be the better way to put that. Turned fighter. Wow. It's a fluff piece. I know he's good now. The article might as well be called He's Good Now. Haven't they seen the video?
Starting point is 01:42:42 I don't think they have. I don't think they've done as much research on this as we have, honestly. I think they just took his fucking word for it. I don't think they did what I did and stayed up for three days and fucking looked up this guy's ass with a microscope. So now September of 2016, Bennett is in Japan to fight a guy named Minoru Kimura. He's still getting passports. He's still getting let into a foreign country. He's been in prison.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Oh, my goodness. So Bennett and Vanderlei Silvava remember him yeah they're apparently staying at the same hotel uh bennett comes through the lobby as silva is at the desk checking in this is all on video too uh the shit talking ensues yeah this is a funny video silva says you know what you're doing you know what you're doing as he's pointing toward him yeah and benton charles crazy horse says felony says quote you know what i did i knocked you out i slept you so he's just talking shit he's like fuck you uh so silva stalks toward charles charles is trying to get on the elevator as he's coming and you see him like keep pressing the button as he's talking shit though he's like i knocked your ass out motherfucker push. Push, push, push, push, push. Where's the elevator at? Come on, let's go. Open the door, open the door.
Starting point is 01:43:46 So people sort of get in between them and Silva almost gets in the elevator with him. He like gets right to the elevator door. It's a bunch of scared Japanese people like in the middle of them. Very small as he said. Elevator doors close and then Silva just turns around and goes back to checking in like nothing happened. Goes back to
Starting point is 01:44:01 the desk. So room 316, right? Hopefully that's over. So September 25th, 2016 in Saitama, Japan. This is the Rizin World Grand Prix 2016. Another super happy, excellent buffet. Super happy. Super happy, excellent buffet. He's fighting Minoru Kimura, like we said.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Now Silva is in Kimura's corner. He's in the corner. So Kimura coming in is 21-7-1. He is favored big time. Well, I'm sure. And Silva wants him to whoop his ass, right? So Charles is a big underdog. During the intros, Charles is ignoring it, and he's looking.
Starting point is 01:44:42 You know, they have the camera on the guy. He's looking into the camera going, hey, Candelay. He calls him Candy Lay, by the way, not Vandy Lay. He calls him Candy Lay. He says, hey, Candy Lay, remember I knocked you out. You remember that, Candy Lay? Into the camera talking that shit. He's got the gold teeth in, grill, looking like ODB at his finest here, okay?
Starting point is 01:44:59 So during the ref instructions, when they're, like, in the middle, they're supposed to be, like, staring each other down. This Kimura is, like like looking at him normally bennett has not ignoring the referee ignoring him he's just got his face in the middle of the camera talking shit going you hear that candelay candelay blah blah blah he turns to camara and goes you remember when i knocked candelay out and then turns back to the camera and goes he he remembers. He's just talking all the shit in the world. While they're doing this, Silva's in the corner making the throat slashing sign. Like, I'm going to fucking kill you.
Starting point is 01:45:31 He's doing that. He does shake Kimura's hand. He's very good. Shake your hand. They go off. The fight starts. They come from the corners. Kimura tries to leap at him with a kick.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Just leaps at him like with a flying knee. And Bennett whops him in the jaw and knocks him down. The fight's over in seven seconds. Wow. Seven seconds. Popped him, knocked him out of the air, jumped on top of him, started beating his fucking ass. Fight over.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Ref jumps on top of him, stops the fight. Seven second fight. How fast does he go into talking shit to Vandele again? He picks up the mic at the end of it. I love it. Stands in the middle of the ring. Spits some rhymes, throws some bars at him. And has a speech for Vandalay.
Starting point is 01:46:06 He has a speech for old Candalay, and here it goes. In their own words, quote, Where's Candalay? Candalay, for the record, you know what happened in 2005. That's why you're still salty. That's why you're still trying to come get some of this. But you can't get none of this unless you put it on a contract. You put it on a contract, then you can get some of this.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Other than that, every time your big steroid headass see me, and then he starts running around the ring and laughing, I'm going to keep running. He actually says, okay, I'll quote him, but this is, I'm uncomfortable. He actually says, every time you see me, I'm a fast nigger, I'm a run. And he starts running around the fucking ring, is what
Starting point is 01:46:40 he says, actually. Unbelievable. But it's kind of important. That's awesome. Because that makes sense. Context is everything. Oh everything oh absolutely so then he runs around the ring laughing and then once they get backstage sylva's waiting for him and there's pictures and video of them being separated as sylva tries to murder him and he laughs at him going i knocked you the fuck out see man it's the laughing i'm telling you you can't laugh at it i mean you can it's this guy's just so fucking enraged. If you could see him in that hotel, he's like, I'm going to kill this guy.
Starting point is 01:47:09 He wants to rip him apart. It's amazing. I've laughed in so many guys' faces that wanted to fight me. It's the greatest thing in the world. I don't know why it works, but it will set the least angry man. It will turn him into a monster. If he thinks he's much tougher than you and you have knocked him out in the past and you keep taunting him about it, it's going to make him even madder. That's what I mean here.
Starting point is 01:47:33 So February to March 2017, he loses his next two fights. This means on a huge high, seven-second win, which there's a million articles out there about this impressive seven-second win against a good fighter, and so he loses the next two fights to non-linkers. He can't ride waves, man. He's no surfer. Not at all. He's up and down. He fought Cody Stevens in March.
Starting point is 01:47:55 He looks like, this is a really deep reference, but he looks like Jake the Milkman Milliman, who was a shitty wrestler in the 80s in the AWA in Minnesota. It's a really deep reference. There's about four people that are going to get that, but they're going to go, holy shit, he does look like Jake the Milkman Milliman. He has a crew cut and a big beard. He doesn't look impressive at all, but he beats him. One is in the UK and one is in Cleveland, which are way different.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Now he's 30, 32, and 2. Same weather. Same weather, yeah, pretty much. Same dumpy weather. Now we have an in their own words because Kimora, the guy he knocked out in seven seconds, wants a rematch. Really? He wants a rematch. He wants another piece of that?
Starting point is 01:48:34 Yeah, he does. And Charles Bennett says in their own words, quote, I don't know why he wants a rematch. Slept this dude in like seven seconds. Stupid rematch, stupid corner. Maybe he'll lose in ten seconds this time. So that's pretty fucking funny kind of like that now currently what he started doing after this because this was in 2017 was his last mma fight he started kickboxing oh god now so let's get into another sport in your late 30s that you have no experience in april of 2017 this month
Starting point is 01:49:02 very recently he had a fight in China where he's knocked out cold with a flying knee in under 10 seconds. The one that he combated earlier, he couldn't do it this time. He couldn't do it this time. Some Chinese guy in a, I don't know if it was a Chinese guy, but it was in China. Somebody in a skirt knocked him out. Knocked his ass out cold with a flying knee because he's not a kickboxer. That was his first kickboxing fight.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Unbelievable. So what does he do? He starts talking shit about Conor McGregor. What? That's his thing in the papers now on the internet. No, he kind of, well, he just wants attention. Shit, if you fought the guy, it'd be his biggest payday. You know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Do something with himself. You can probably catch him lawyers for that, yeah. Pay for lawyers. He says, we have an in their own words on this. In their own words on Conor McGregor, quote, he ain't shit. I'm a Diaz fan, so you should know about how I feel about him. The UFC tries to make Conor McGayer, he calls him,
Starting point is 01:49:52 a replica of me, but he ain't shit. You know he does not possess the characteristics I do. No, he's a winner. He's a winner and I haven't seen him be arrested for strangling a pregnant woman. Or Soul Coke. Or Soul Coke. So yeah, he yeah, he doesn't possess those. Or sold coke. Or sold coke. So, yeah, he is. Probably doesn't possess those characteristics.
Starting point is 01:50:07 That is the first honest thing he said. Good job, Charles Bennett. He ain't like me. No, you're right. He's not. Yeah, he's not. He's successful. That's the difference.
Starting point is 01:50:14 And I haven't seen him in prison on and off. And he is not living with his grandmother, brothers, drunken girlfriends, and an uncle. And if he is, it's because he has several houses on his property and he paid for them all to live. And they live there and he can kick them out. They all live very comfortably. Put it this way. No one unplugs his washing machine mid-cycle. Nobody touches his washing machine.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Wash that shit. He doesn't even use the washing machine. He's got somebody paid to do it. Bet your ass. So if you are looking for Charles Bennett and you'd like to interact with Charles Bennett out there, he's on Twitter. Oh, I'm sure he is. He is at FelonyIsMe. Oh my god. That is his handle,
Starting point is 01:50:48 which I wouldn't have it any other way. No. At FelonyIsMe is his handle. There's the second most honest thing. That's, again, so you can get a hold of Charles Bennett. Wow. The crazy horse. Holy shit. That's our craziest guy since Dotsick, I think. What do you think? I don't know. He didn't kill anybody
Starting point is 01:51:04 yet. No, no, but he's just insane. he's got some real problems fun that one he's a mess he was well he's not fun for pregnant women yeah no no no brother's girlfriend amber's not thrilled with no she's not having a party he was fun to research because i got to watch a whole lot of crazy short fights and shit like that it's i'm looking forward to seeing the the forest video yeah watch the there's a bunch of watch the video of them in the hotel. That's really funny. Vanderlay and him arguing in the hotel. He's pressing buttons.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Him talking shit. And him in the hotel explaining how the first fight went down with him. He lays down on the ground to demonstrate. Get out of here. Oh, no, he's not in a chair. He's like, I was like this, and then I'm like this, right? And then I pop up. He acts out the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Even he goes to the door holding the handle, kicking. Like, I'm like this, kicking. That's so good. It's hilarious. So good. So that is Charles Crazy Horse Kid Chaos Felony Bennett. Right. Or Felony Charles Crazy Horse Kid Chaos Bennett to be proper about the whole thing and show
Starting point is 01:51:57 him the due respect. Right. That he deserves. Wow. What a fucking mess. Holy shit. Now, at this point, we're going to go to some shout-outs in a moment. But before we do that, I must encourage you once again, please, please, if you haven't yet, get on iTunes and give us five stars.
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