Crime in Sports - #74 - Death Would Be Too Good - The Detestableness of Eugene "Buck" Zumhofe

Episode Date: June 27, 2017

This week, we head into a wilderness of horrors with possibly the most deplorable, disgusting, and down right horrid human being that we've ever had the pleasure of verbally destroying. The level of utter disdain this man has for any form of decency is startling, and revolting. He was awful at his job. He was awful in the world. He's just awful. And we treat him as such. Enjoy!!Sell your scrap metal truck, give yourself a stupid nickname, and be the worst human being alive with Eugene "Buck Rock-n-Roll" Zumhofe!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at...patreon.com/crimeinsportsGet your 1st run Crime In Sports & Small Town Murder t-shirts at truecrimecomedyteam.com!!Help support our show by supporting our sponsors...Post your jobs to over 100 sites with one click! Start your free trial today by going to ziprecruiter.com/crime!Contact us on...twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/crimeinsports#crime #sports #murder #police #prison #jail #cops #true #truecrime #trial #drugs #champion #assault #heavyweight #violence #kill #death #investigation #espn #foxsports #bloody #killer #firstdegree #braindamage #domesticviolence #wrestling #awa #wwf #wwe #wcw #rocknroll #sexualassault #hulkhogan #ricflair   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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First of all, last week was a nut. What the shit. What the shit. Last week we had a mess of a guy, as usual, with Kirkland. What a boxing record, though. Oh, man. He was doing so great. He was doing so well, and he was so good.

And a lot of times, Jimmy, we do this a lot. A lot of times, and lately I've this a lot, a lot of times. And lately I've noticed we had a lot of episodes where we're like, I hate this son of a bitch. And all this. God damn it. And we're angry by the end of it. Like Dave Meggett, Tom Payne, guys like that. We just want to chugger Craig Titus, you know, that sort of asshole. But we get a lot of guys that we it's hard to hate them.

It's always we like them, except for that one thing. The one thing they did was like it was it's just it's that line that like them except for that one thing they did. The one thing they did was like, it was, it's just, it's that line that you're like, that's unforgivable. I want to hang out with you, but stop with the swastikas. Stop with the N-word. What's your problem? Yeah, Mickey Dora painting swastikas on his surfboard and saying the N-word. Other than that, seems

like an awesome, fun guy. So fun. Javaris Crittenton. You love his upbringing, the fact that he got, he worked hard and he got above everything, and then he kills somebody like a fucking woman. You're like, Jesus Christ, you idiot. But Kirkland, fun guy, exciting in the ring, all this shit, but he's going to choke a woman and rob a dollar store.

And then stop paying for his kids. Stop. When he's got money. Asshole. Idiot. This is one of these where we will hate this son of a bitch with all of our heart and soul. Good. That's all I have to say.

We're going to hate, hate, hate him. I'm so fucking disgusted and angry with this asshole right now. It's Eugene Zumhoff. Okay. Eugene Otto Zumhoff is his full name. I don't know who he is, but his name is stupid. Well, his nickname is even stupider. That's his real name.

Zumhoff. And his nickname is Rock and Roll Buck Zumhoff. Jesus. Rock and Roll Buck Zumhoff. He hung on to Zumhoff? Zumhoff he is. Well, this is in Minnesota, so there's a lot of people of that ethnicity. There's a lot of Zumhoffs up there?

I don't know if there's a lot of Zumhoffs. Actually, there's a few, as we're going to get to later on. Do you want me to relate to all of the Zoom Hoffs in town? But this guy, wow, does he make me angry. He's a complete asshole, and he's not even good at his job. That's the other thing, too. He's shit at what he did. He's terrible at it.

He had some success, even though he's terrible at it. And then he also is a dickhead in his personal life, too. So you just want to hate this guy. I'm listening. He's a wrestler, a professional wrestler. I'm listening. He's a wrestler. Okay. A professional wrestler. Obviously.

Obviously. His name's Rock. There's not a lot of NFL guys named Rock and Roll Buck Zumhoff on the offensive line. So he's a wrestler. He's not a soccer player. And if you don't know anything about wrestling, it doesn't matter. We're going to tell you about an asshole. Just sit back and listen to that.

And we'll have a good time making fun of wrestling and everything that goes on there because that's what we do here. We make fun of everything. He's from Hamburg, Minnesota, which is about 40 miles outside of Minneapolis, very small town where he grew up. And there's a lot of small Minnesota towns we're going to be mentioning. New London, Cyrus, Hamburg, all these little Minnesota towns are involved in this. This is almost exclusively in the state of Minnesota. This is going to take place.

So imagine bad accents, a lot of blonde hair, flat land and Chinese people for some reason. Chinese people for no reason. Very strange. He grows up in this town. He has two older sisters. He says when he grew up, he wasn't a real big wrestling fan, didn't know too, too much about it. One of his sisters, I guess one of his sisters was like five years older. One was like 10 years older.

And when he was about 10, he had a sister that was 19 or so. Her boyfriend was very much into wrestling. He'd come over and watch wrestling and he got buck into wrestling. Now in Minnesota in the 70s and in the 60s and in the 80s, for that matter, the wrestling was called the AWA. The AWA was their WWE or whatever the hell. Back then, I'll try to explain a little bit so this makes sense because otherwise later on it's not going to make sense. Back then in wrestling you had territories. So right now it's just a WWE and that's wrestling.

It's just worldwide, right? TNA, I don't even know if that still exists. I don't think it does. Either way, it's national. That's just a national thing. It's not regional. They go all over the country. Their TV's on everywhere.

That's not what it was like back then. Back then, everything was regional. So you had the WWE, which was a WWF back then, WWWF actually in the 70s. They were in the Northeast. They had Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, the tri-state, that little area down to D.C. That was their area. That's where their TV shows were on on a Saturday morning. The kids would watch, and that's where they'd sell tickets and they'd do their thing.

Then you had the NWA, which was down south, the National. You had your Portland, and you had your World Class in Texas with the Von Eriks, which we'll also talk about. Those are the biggest tragedy, all sorts of suicides and deaths. You've even heard of them, I'm sure. And then in the north part of the country, that's even, you had Florida, Georgia, there's a million different territories. Memphis, I don't need to get into all of them. One of them was the AWA, and that was in Minnesota.

That was based out of Minneapolis, and AWA was actually the first to expand more than the others. Gotcha. AWA expanded from Minnesota to Chicago, Wisconsin, all through the Midwest, and then they went out, too. Their markets were in Denver, Phoenix, Winnipeg. So they went out west also. They even went into a different country. Yeah, Omaha.

They'd go to, yeah, Winnipeg. That's kind of the same. Wrestling's big up there in Canada, and it was right there from Minnesota. May as well be Minnesota. Yeah. So, I mean, this was their loop, andpeg. That's kind of the same. Wrestling's big up there in Canada, and it was right there from Minnesota. So, I mean, this was their loop, and this was like the biggest loop in the country. Everywhere else stayed in their little area. If you were in Texas, you'd do Houston, Dallas, boom, boom, boom, and back in. In small towns, you'd do Odessa, you'd do that.

But you wouldn't go to California and back. They had San Francisco by the early 80s, AWA. So they were taking it a little bit differently, and they were trying a little bit harder, the AWA. But that was the main—in Minnesota, that was the—AWA was all there was. Gotcha. It was run by a guy named Vern Gagne. Vern Gagne is—seems like an asshole from everything I've seen. Sounds scary to me.

He's a guy—he's actually like a cool old-timer, if you think about it this way. Fought in World War II. He came back. He was on the Olympic team as a guy. He's actually like a cool old timer, if you think about it this way. Fought in World War II. He came back. He was on the Olympic team as a wrestler. He's like a national champion and college wrestler. Went to the University of Minnesota. Came back, made the Olympic team. The team didn't wrestle that year in the Olympics.

There was something with freestyle and Greco-Roman and some shit that doesn't matter to us here. But they didn't wrestle, but he's still an Olympian. He gets drafted by the Green Bay Packers what as a football player too wow he doesn't end up playing football because back then you made nothing playing football and wrestling was actually very lucrative sure so he went still is yeah so he went into professional wrestling instead became a huge national star in the 50s when you know wrestling was on national television on a saturday. That was what everyone watched in the 50s. It's so funny. Both my grandfathers, my grandmothers all liked wrestling.

Really? Because they were around in the 50s. Anyone who watched TV in the 50s likes wrestling. It's really weird. It was as big as anything else in the country. It was bigger than football back then. I'd have to ask my grandparents about that shit. I guarantee you they liked wrestling if they were home and hanging out in the, you know, whatever, home and hanging out in the 50s.

Anyway, Vern Gagne starts the AWA after that in Minnesota. He's the local small town, not small town, Minneapolis, but he's the local hero up there. He runs this whole thing. This is all this guy sees. And Buck Zumhoff is there, young Buck at this point. He's just Eugene. Eugene Zumhoff is seeing all of this. He's a little guy hanging out with his sister's boyfriend, and he sees wrestling for the first time and really enjoys it.

His sister's boyfriend takes him to some matches, which really sees it live. He gets super into it then. As you see anything live, you get into it. And wrestling is one of those things that a lot of people hate wrestling. If you've ever been to a live show, it's impossible to not be entertained by it. It just is. They're going crazy. There's the crowd, everything.

You'll get caught up in it. Go to a monster truck event. I guarantee you, you're like, I'm a redneck now. I just love this. Anything live like that with an energy from a crowd and all that, you can get caught up in it, whether you like what's going on or not. I used to go to all the drag races here when they were here in the wintertime. It's amazing.

It's legit so fun to go do. Yeah, it's one of those things. So he goes and as a kid, you really get you can get hooked on something like that as a kid. I remember I went to Madison Square Garden when I was nine years old and saw Hulk Hogan. You did? I saw, yeah. 1987. So cool. I saw Hulk

Hogan versus the One Man Gang in addition to all sorts of stuff. Me and my cousin Jesse, and we got taken. And it was the fucking greatest thing of my childhood. Like, when I was a kid, that was our, for years, that was like our greatest thing in the world. We got to see Hulk Hogan fight live and all that. And it got me really into it. Just a few feet away from you. Yeah, and it got me into it.

That's so cool. I was like, this is so cool. So this is what happens with this guy. He starts watching it from now on. As he's a late teenager and a young man, he doesn't go to college or anything because he's a fucking moron, as we'll get into. He's working. He's driving a truck. And this was hard because I got this from him.

And he talks like just an idiot. From what I could gather. It was harder to listen and process what he was saying than it is to dig through public records. It really was. It really was. And going through from courthouse to courthouse documents and try to see through the pay window, try to decipher around that. And that was much easier than listening to this fuckhead talk. It was.

Guys, I have a two-hour interview with this guy and you don't even know how hard that was to do because i didn't pay for it yeah so it was not fucking it's not on youtube i'll tell you that much right now it is not easy to find this entire interview so i tracked this down illegally downloaded the whole deal i find this goddamn thing i'm really into it and I'm trying to watch this video and I couldn't get through more than half of it. And I tried a million. And you know, it's not a matter of time or I didn't feel like it. I'm

I hate this son of a bitch so much that I can't watch him talk for two hours. I was doing it in 20 minute increments and finally I'm like, you know what? I don't give a shit what you have to say. The fucking court documents say it all. Go to hell, asshole. I'm not listening to you anymore. Literally, I'm like, you know what? I don't even want to know what he has to say. fucking court documents say it all go to hell asshole i'm not listening to you anymore literally i'm like you know what i don't even want to know what he has to say uh so at this point at this point old rock and roll buck he's not rock and roll yet i don't know if he's buck yet little

eugene he's apparently like i said hard to decipher but he's working on he's driving a truck from what i can gather here he's driving a truck from construction site to construction site, collecting scrap and like cleaning up the scrap and taking it away. And selling it. I assume to sell the scrap for whatever. He's essentially a meth head minus meth at this point. That's pretty much it. And he's like doing some schlep work around the sites and that sort of thing.

So shitty. So shitty. But I mean, he's like a 19 year old kid in Minnesota in the 70s. I mean, that sounds miserable. He's scrapping to get by. Literally scrapping to get by. Literally. Metal scrapping to get by.

That's insane. So he's sitting there. It's about 1974. He's watching television. He's watching the AWA. He's watching wrestling, right? He's sitting there in his Minnesota shithole town. Who's this guy? And well, I don't know who he likes or who he's into, but he sees an ad.

Back then, what they would do, they'd have ads, and this one ad, well, they always have ads, but one ad specifically was for the AWA Wrestling Training Camp. He sees Vern Gagne on television, who's the owner of the AWA, and we talked about, says, do you think you have what it takes to be a wrestler? god you call this number and come on down to minneapolis boxing and wrestling club because that was the official name of the company and we'll get you blah blah blah so he calls up and he calls up the office and he finds out where to go and he goes to this wrestling camp okay uh now this wrestling camp it's the awa wrestling camp. He calls in October 1973. Yeah.

Okay. He finds himself someone to take over his truck route so he can go to camp. And he's planning on going to camp. And the way he's looking at it, he's just like, he's saying, okay, I'm going to go be a wrestler. I'll go to this camp. And then, you know, it's on TV Saturday night. So then I'll drive my truck during the week and I'll make 50 bucks extra on a Saturday night. And that'll be fun.

I'll be on TV. I'll get girls. Shit, this is a good deal, right? Wasn't exactly like that, though. No. He should. No. You've got to work every damn day.

You've got to work every day. It's a different thing. He just didn't know how it worked. He arrives in the camp at 73. Only a couple weeks left. They did a six-week camp. They did a six-week camp. He arrives in with only a couple weeks left.

Found out a little late. I assume they took him in just to see if it was worth telling him to come back sort of thing. Because in addition to you paying to go to the camp to train, they were actually, he was actually, Vern Gagne trying to find guys he could use. Like he wasn't just trying to rip people off, although he would because he then demands 10% of all their future bookings. All their future bookings forever. Forever. Everybody told him, go fuck yourself and left and never gave him a dime. Good.

Because why would they give him a dime? These camps are insane. The balls. Yeah. The fucking balls to tell somebody, I'm going to teach you how to wrestle, but forever you're going to pay me 10%. You're going to pay me 10%. That's why Verngani is an asshole.

Yeah. That's crazy. He's one of these guys that just sits back with his Minnesota accent and goes, hey, everybody thinks I'm a nice guy. That's the type of guy. So you're going to pay me 10%, eh? Hey, 10% there. Let me tell you something. That's just how he talks, too. Unbelievable.

He's the worst. He was a wrestler, too. He was champ forever there. He's a 50-year-old. He always looks 50 and paunchy and bald as fuck. Homer Simpson bald. And he was the champion. Wow.

It's like you're an old man. Bald old man with skinny legs. You shouldn't be the champion. But he'd be the champion up there for years. He's realized Homer Simpson just winning wrestling matches. It's his belt. So he wins. I made it.

I win. That's it. These camps would, and I found a lot of this out from Ric Flair's writings. And we all know who Ric Flair is. I hope even if Flair's writings, and we all know who Ric Flair is. I hope even if you're not a wrestling fan, you know who Ric Flair is. But these camps were in a barn in Minnesota in the winter. Okay. Barn, not completely enclosed.

Yeah. There was gaps in the boards. There's a draft. Yeah. Minnesota winter, if you're from another country, you don't know. This is extreme below zero shit. This is Arctic. This is death weather. Yeah. Minnesota winter, if you're from another country, you don't know. This is extreme below zero shit. This is Arctic. This is death weather.

Yeah. This is Canada South. This is not good at all. It would be disgusting. The ropes would be like dangerously loose. You feel like you're going to fall when you bounce through. They make them do horrible things. They would have, there was a, Flair talked about this, a big beam above the ring that the chickens from the barn would go out and would be hanging out with each other, shitting

all over the ring. What? So they would have to clean the chicken shit out of the ring and hope that it didn't fall on you. And pray you're not on the mat with your mouth open. Sometimes they'd show up and there'd be a snow drift in the ring because it came into the barn through the slats in it. So there'd be a shitload of snow they'd

have to shovel out. This is wrestling in Russia. This is Rocky IV. Right. This is Rocky training but they always did this and then the physical part of it, what they would try to do is just weed people out. Yeah. So Buck says later on if you could do 500 sit-ups they'd make you do

1,000 sit-ups. If you do 1,000 sit-ups they'd make you do 2,000 sit-ups. It wasn't a matter of you were never in good enough shape. It was just a matter of breaking you. You'd show up, and they'd have you run. He was talking about with Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, which you might know later on. He was talking about an exercise they did where they would hold each other's feet and go up 20 flights of stairs, like 20 stories of stairs, and then back down the stairs. Back down. Like wheelbarrow? Like wheelbarrow. You hold your feet, and you climb up with stories of stairs and then back down the stairs. Like a wheelbarrow?

Like a wheelbarrow. Hold your feet. You climb up with your hands. You climb down with your hands. 20 stories? 20 stories they do this for. That's insane. But this is the type of thing.

They'd make them run. They'd do 10-mile runs through the fucking snow and everything. And then when they were done with all of that, then they'd go. Then they'd go wrestle. Time to get in the ring. And then they'd kick the shit out of you because you couldn't even lift your arms. And this was, the other thing is, too, in the ring, when they get you in the ring, these guys didn't know it was fake yet. This is the 70s.

They didn't know it was fake, and these guys weren't telling them. They're throwing forearms. Yeah, they weren't. They were dropping knees. They weren't getting these students in. Vern wasn't getting these students in and going, hey, guys, this is all fake. Let me show you how to do this without hurting somebody. This is a suplex.

They beat the shit out of these guys and tried to get them to quit. Wow. Ric Flair said he did not know for sure what the fucking deal was until five minutes before his first match. Really? Trained, ready, in a pair of, you know, in his fucking spandex underwear, standing there with a pair of boots on, waiting to go into the ring. And find out, is he winning?

Is he winning if is he winning find out emma is this a fight for my life or or is this or are they going to tell me what to do yeah he didn't know if he was gonna have to go fight a guy in there or not like literally and he was scared shitless because he didn't know what to do and then he said like five minutes before the guy he was fighting came up to him and said hey by the way you know about five minutes blah blah blah we're gonna do this ends in a draw whatever and he was like that's how it works okay but they didn't tell him that till they were about to step in the ring that's they had to protect it so much so much more respect for flair because he was actually willing to go fight for fight to a death he was gonna do it he's like all right i'll get in there

let's do it he's like shit i'm gonna go kill somebody and then they're like no no this is fake it's gonna end in a draw he's like oh it's fake oh it's what jesus i was prepared for you to kill me i had a will and everything yes jesus i said goodbye to my kids on my way here all right well i guess i left the house and told my kids in case daddy doesn't come home i guess i'm winning in six minutes i can't wait to get home be like it was a draw and i knew before we started before we started yeah back then it was it was literally they were protecting the secretiveness of the whole thing. Because they didn't want to tell these guys it was fake, have them quit the camp, and then go home and be like, yeah, it's all fake anyway.

You know, they had to. It'll get around. Back then, you had to make sure that it was real or whatever. I don't understand what the hell difference that would make. It's crazy. You had to make sure it was real. We all know now, and it's watched fucking crazy. It doesn't matter.

Yeah, it's the same thing. It doesn't stop evil. So he comes in he's in camp. These camps also Ric Flair was trained here Ken Patera Sgt. Slaughter, Ricky Steamboat. You name the star and they were probably trained

by Vern Gagne in this system. I wonder what Sgt. Slaughter is doing now. He works for WWE Does he work there? I'm pretty sure. He's worked in the office there for 25 years I'm pretty sure once he retired. in the office there for 25 years, I'm pretty sure. I loved him. Yeah, he was great, Sgt. Slaughter. He was awesome. He was so mean. We'll get it. We'll actually have some Sgt. Slaughter coming in. Like I said,

Buck arrived with a...asshole. Zoom dick asked... Fuck Zoom shit. Zoom off. Arrived with only a couple weeks left. He did very well in camp. In camp with him was Sgt. Slaughter. This is when Sgt. Slaughter was being did very well in camp. In camp with him was Sergeant Slaughter. This is when Sergeant Slaughter was being trained to be a wrestler. He started with him.

He started in the same camp. Also Playboy Buddy Rose, who's a – you'd have to be a real wrestling fan to know who he is. But Playboy Buddy Rose, who's kind of a legendary guy. Anyway, they get done with the camp. Buck actually kept up cardio-wise. Somehow he's in good shape. I don't know what he's been doing. But Vern Gagne told him that he couldn't, you know,

he couldn't do everything this year because it's the camp's not over. So he can't train you totally. He said, keep up all the cardio. Yeah. Keep in touch with the office. Call every once in a while. Say you're still alive and then come back to next year's camp. Gotcha.

So he's psyched. Yeah. He's ready to be a star. They like me. He goes home, tells all his friends. Yeah. They told me to come back. I'm going to be on TV. I'm going to be a wrestler. This is going to be a star. They like me. He goes home, tells all his friends. Yeah. They tell me to come back. I'm going to be on TV.

I'm going to be a wrestler. This is going to be the greatest. And then 74 comes around and Vern has no camp. He doesn't have a camp that year. Because they wouldn't have a camp every year. Yeah. He would only have a camp when he had people he wanted to train. Oh, shit.

So they wouldn't always have a camp. Zumhoff wasn't good enough. Well, nobody was that year. So now Zumhoff had to wait. He's driving his scrap truck. And he's just waiting. have a camp and it kind of wasn't good enough and well it's nobody was that year so now zoom off had to wait he's driving his scrap truck and he's just waiting he's got to go find angle that's laying around job sites oh god what a terrible life well so he who he went and found was billy robinson okay billy robinson is a wrestler and uh he is a badass wrestler he an Englishman, and he's a real legit guy. He will rip your fucking head off type of guy.

Rip your shit and head off. Rip your shit and head off. This guy, I don't even know if he's still alive right now, but if he is, he's probably 75, and I wouldn't cross his son with this. Really? He's insanely dangerous. He won the British National Wrestling Championship in 57 and 58. The European Open Wrestling Champion. You said urine.

Urine. In the light heavyweight class. He beat an Olympic medalist to win in that final. He also was trained in the Snake Pit, which is a famous British fighting kind of a group of guys. I don't know how to do it. Training center, which is Carl Gotch trained there, guys like that who are like the ultimate wrestlers. This is a badass.

This is a guy who'll just rip your fucking head off your shoulders. You can't, this is a perfect match. Billy Robinson is working for Ferngania Wrestling and he's also his head trainer at the time. So what they would do is you'd, like I said, run around, do all these calisthenics, go so your body can't move, and then have to go fight this guy in the ring. Good God. And he'd kick the shit out of you. So that's how it works.

So he found, Buck finds Billy Robinson, and he ended up starting to help him, starting to train him. Now, training consisted of these two guys. Buck would go on his lunch break from driving the truck. He'd drive the scrap truck over to Billy's house, get out, and they'd fight. They'd wrestle on the front yard. Get out of here. Now, imagine in the 70s, two just white guys in the sun in the 70s just grappling in the

front yard with a scrap truck idling nearby. And it just seems okay. And it's fine. Super fucking weird, right? It happened all the time. All the time. So apparently, Buck said that Billy would kick the shit out of him, too. He said he would kick his ass until he was crying.

What? He was like, I'd be a grown man and do sobbing and tears because he was beating me up so bad. In the grass. And he's got to get back in his truck with his back all itchy. This is his lunch break. Yeah. Now he's got to put his shirt back on, hair all fucked up, just get back in the truck, and then go get scrap metal, which sounds terrible.

With his whole body itching from that grass. You remember that? When the fresh cut grass you laid down and that shit? It's the worst. So itchy. You know he had his shirt off, too. Oh, of course. This guy never has a shirt on, I'll tell you right now.

Soaked. He's a fucking moron. So sweaty. Gross. And with some Englishman just romping you. Sweating all over him. Absolutely. Kicking the hell out of him.

Kicking the balls off of him. So knocking the dog shit out of the poor guy. Beating the rice out of him. Beating the rice out of him. Absolutely, kicking the balls off of him. So knocking the dog shit out of the poor guy. Beating the rice out of him. Beating the rice out of him from last week. So at some point, Billy Robinson decides that Buck is worthy, I guess, because what they would do is, and I've heard this a lot in the training, is they'd beat the shit out of you repeatedly to see if you'd come back. And if you kept coming back, eventually they would be like,

okay, he keeps coming back. He must really want to to do this i guess i'll teach him how it works because otherwise like i said they didn't want just somebody coming and going i want to be a wrestler like yeah come on we'll show you how it's fake it is and then he's like i don't feel like it anymore yeah they don't want that so they have to you have to prove that you are so down for it that you'll take ass kickings for free in the front lawn at your lunch break forever. So eventually, Billy decides that Buck is worthy and lets him in on it and says, we work with each other. This isn't like whatever we've been doing. That's not how this works. Like, here's the thing. We work together.

As a person that just got your ass kicked for so long, somebody now tells you, by the way, we don't have to do it this way. Yeah. You don't have to do it this way. Yeah. You don't have to leave bleeding. Yes. I could. This is all fake, by the way. Yeah. We can just.

We didn't need to do any of this. We can faux slam each other. Like, that's all. I would kick him in the fucking dick. Well, that is considered paying your dues. I don't give a shit about dues. Fuck your dues. That's considered paying your dues to get your ass kicked for nothing.

That's like getting jumped into a gang. That's fucked up. That's considered paying your dues to get your ass kicked for nothing. That's like getting jumped into a gang. That's fucked up. That's exactly what it is. Jesus. That is exactly what wrestling is. Wrestling is a fucked up carnival gang. It's a gang of carnies. And they beat the shit out of you and then phony it up later.

And back then, that's exactly what it was because they would travel around and they'd pretend to fight for money and try to make a finish so people want to see the next one. It's a complete. That's why. We're hustling the audience. If UFC is real now, it won't be for very long. Put it that way. It will not be real for much longer. It won't.

Listen, there are 200 something fights into this, aren't there? There's something like that. Yeah. It's not anymore. It can't be. Wrestling in the 20s was UFC. Yeah. It was real.

And then people said, hey, we've been grappling around for an hour and a half, and there's not that many people here. I bet if we decide to do something fun at the end where people would want to see a rematch, we'll make more money. And that's where it came from, and that's where wrestling came from. It came from a couple of guys just going, wouldn't it be great if rather than us fighting and hurting each other every fucking time we fight because it's real, why don't we just pretend to fight? We'll do all the same moves that we do in our real fight except just loosen them up a little so we don't get hurt. And that way we can fight more and make more money. Spray some ketchup on your face. And everyone went, yeah.

That's a great idea. Cut your head with a razor. Everyone will think I'm bleeding. This is terrific. That's what happened. And that's where UFC has got ahead. I don't think I'm bleeding. This is terrific.

That's what happened, and that's where UFC has got ahead. It just has to because it's just too tempting to make money to go, shit, if only he beat him this time, or if only they went to a draw, fuck, people would want to see that next time. Absolutely. And then maybe he'll do that. And if you go to one of these guys and go, hey, it's worth half a mil to you to do this, they're going to fucking do it. I mean, pride aside, whatever. I'm sorry. I know people love UFC, and they're so angry when it's compared to wrestling, but same

shit. Sorry. Same thing. Same thing. So yeah, he starts to smarten Buck up and not beat the shit out of him and show him some actual wrestling moves of what to do here. So October of 75, Vern has another camp, another wrestling camp. So two years later, he's in it now.

Two years later, Buck is in this camp. He is in the same camp as Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, which is a famous, famous wrestler. If you grew up in the 80s, 90s, 70s, whatever, you'd know who he was. Very famous guy. Goes to the camp with him. The whole deal, he does well. Like I said, he said him and Ricky the Dragon did the stairs things together. The whole deal.

Six weeks of camp goes by. Buck survives the camp. He said they started out with a couple hundred people, and by the fourth day, there was eight people there. Wow. That's how it works. They couldn't do that. No, they couldn't do that. That's why he makes you do it.

Well, that's just to clear out the assholes right off the bat. Go run 20 miles. That's half the guys are gone right there. 200 people are in, and then they're like, 20 miles? 92 of us are going home. So that makes sense. You want to weed people out. He's told that he's going to be used by the AWA. Very excited.

Super excited. He's excited to be on TV. Thinks that, like I said, thinks he's going to drive the truck all week. Weekend, 50 bucks on television. Up to his fucking knees and poon. Just women everywhere. This is going to be amazing, right?

Then he gets a booking sheet in the mail. They send him a letter in the mail. His schedule. It's his schedule. And he sees Omaha, Chicago, Iowa, fucking Denver. And he's like, whoa, this isn't what I had in mind here. I thought this was like a Saturday night thing. So much for scrapping. He worked there. He still didn't even know how it worked. He thought you just this was like a Saturday night thing. So much for scrapping. He worked there.

He still didn't even know how it worked. Like he thought you just wrestled once a week, and that's how they did it. Not every night to make money. Yeah. So he sells his truck to wrestle. He's like, well, I guess I'm a wrestler now. Sells his truck off, which, I mean, if you have a full schedule, I guess you're a wrestler.

Yeah. 1975, he works for AWA all around. He's opening match fodder. He comes out, gets a shit beat out of him, loses. He's a rookie. That's what they do with the rookies. I mean, unless you're something special. He's not a big guy, too.

Bucks like 5'11". And the way he moves, man, he's the worst. He's the fucking worst. His legs, he's got these stiff legs, and they're like too short for his body. So he runs like he's, like, a— Like a weeble? Like a weeble penguin. It's the weirdest fucking thing.

And his upper body's, like, real stiff and his stupid hair. When you see him, you're just like, God, you look like shit. Just clumsy. You are terrible, man. Terrible. So he works all around. Like I say, he's getting beat. He's, you know, he's getting experience anyway.

He's just getting in the ring with veterans who beat the shit out of him. And he might pick up a thing or two. Does he have a gimmick? Not yet. Okay. Right now he's just showing up, waddling around. Showing up. I don't know if he's going by Buck yet.

I think he's going by Buck now. Okay. I think he's Buck Zumhoff. Okay. That's his name. That's his wrestling name. Buck Zumhoff who loses all the time. Yeah.

So 76 comes around. Vern Gagne tells him you need to get out of here. This is what you did back then. You'd work a territory for a year, and then everybody gets sick of you. There's not much more they could do with you. So they'd ship you around. You'd go to another territory, another territory. And then the next year, you'd loop back in there when the people are ready to see you again because they haven't seen you.

This is why the WWE is hard now because they don't have anywhere to send anybody. So somebody comes in. They're just there forever until everyone's sick of them and then they're just fired. So back then it was like, okay, you came in for a year. Go deal with your CTE. Yeah, go deal with that, asshole. Have fun. Yeah, your neck injury, enjoy. So you're an independent contractor, by the way.

By the way, yeah. And your name is owned by us. By the way, yeah. So change your name if you want to go get in movies, Mr. Johnson. Yeah, also if you want to go, like, wrestle in, like, you know, armory halls all over the country for $100. You can't use our name. Pick a new name. People know you by.

Because fuck you, basically. That's what this is. They can't ship them around. But back then they would say go around, get some experience. We'll catch you back around next year when, you know, you know what you're doing a little more. So he has to go to different territories. He goes to Vancouver for six months. Says he was starving up there.

It was tough. Goes to Portland for a while. Portland he'll end up in later on, and we'll talk about that, because it's very important in this scumbag's fucking story. So he goes to Portland for a while. It's owned by a guy named Don Owen, who's actually kind of a beloved wrestling promoter. The guys all like him. He's considered very fair.

A lot of these guys are considered thieves. They pay like shit. They're not great on the payoffs. There's guys that were like, that guy sucked on payoffs. That guy's fair. Don Owen is the guy that everybody says is fair and all that kind of shit. So he's in Portland. In a business where the businessman is swindling the audience oh god it's hard to believe that he

would swindle the people that are participating that's the thing they're all carnies yeah that's the thing they're all carnies their their job is to lie yeah all of their jobs are to lie that's why i say they're so similar to comedians yeah because every night they have to go on and do the same bullshit that they had planned out and pretend like it's they're just thinking of it it's the exact same thing as a comic and they're all thinking of it. It's the exact same thing as a comic. And they're all full of shit. It's exactly the same. Same thing with comics.

You go around, you're transient. It's really similar. It's really disgusting. 77, he goes to Hawaii because there's a territory in Hawaii, too. That's not the worst thing in the world.

You're in the 70s. Sounds nice. Be a young guy. Go hang out in Hawaii for six months. Wrestle with the shirt off. Let the ladies see you. Get a few bucks. hang out on the beach.

Not bad, especially if you're from— Superfly made it work. Especially if you're from Hamburg, Minnesota. This sounds like a fucking dream come true. I mean, just telling his friends in Hamburg back at this metal scrapyard, I'm in Hawaii making money to be here. It's December. It's 72.

It's beautiful. I'm doing all right. There's no snow drifts. There's no chickens drifts so there's no chickens shitting on me chicken great this is when he really starts to become an asshole okay this is when he oh boy okay he's fueled by poon he oh man is he fueled by poon yeah poon is everything i feel it and it's coming right here he's in hawaii yeah and he claims and this is part of the interview that i saw and hearing him talk about this, oh, made me fucking just livid and sick to my stomach and you'll know why

later. Okay. He claims that he would shake his ass in the ring, like do a little like shake thing, like you're doing the twist. Right. And the ladies in Hawaii would get excited and he said they started chanting rock and roll because he would shake his ass like he was dancing. So they would chant rock and roll.

Ridiculous. So he says rock and roll, shake the ass. He would shake the ass when he was making a comeback. Anybody who's seen a Hulk Hogan match or anything knows the Hulk up when he's getting beat and then he stops. The guy's still trying to beat him but he's shaking

and nothing's affecting him. He's hulking up right and uh you know uh wahoo mcdaniel had his thing where like the indians would start doing the indian war dance and the guys would hit him and it didn't affect him this was his hulk up shaking his ass oh boy he said i'll shake my ass and they love it it's the best right yeah so he said they started chanting rock and roll. Fall of 77, he goes back home to Minnesota and has, quote, the rock and roll suit made. Oh, boy. Okay. This rock and roll suit, I showed you a picture of this, is a jumpsuit.

It is a V-neck, but it's not a V-neck. No, it's a V. It's a V crotch. Yeah. It's a V. Your balls are almost out. It's a V that goes to the belly button. Yeah. It's a V crotch. Yeah. It's a V. Your balls are almost out. It's a V that goes to the belly button. Yeah.

It's a David Lee Roth. It's super. It's a one. I guarantee that's where he fucking found the idea. Well, shit, this was 77. Yeah. This is before David Lee Roth was anywhere. No shit.

This was more of a disco suit, though. Did fucking David Lee Roth rip it from him? Maybe he ripped it from Rock and find out where David Lee Roth is from. If he's from Minnesota, I don't fucking trust him because he's seen this asshole. This is like, it's more like a disco suit, it looks like. It's a goddamn bell-bottom, one-piece spandex jumpsuit. Split to the dick. Split to the dick.

It's the worst fucking thing ever. Nipples are out. It's so, it is so ridiculous, this suit. I can see your nipples. I can. His nipples are out. It's so ridiculous, this suit. I can see your nipples. I can see your nipples. Sebastian Maniscalco reference. He's got his nipples out with his V-chest thing in his fucking... He looks like an asshole in this outfit.

A complete... But he thinks it's great. But it's got frills on the shoulders and shit. Oh, it's looking great, man. I mean, he has a few of them, too. He has them made. He has them commissioned. It's got like the Native American boot with like the frills at the top of the boot. Like the Native...

Sometimes. The Ultimate Warrior wore those with the frills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they were like calf bands and shit. He had like what you put on a little girl's handlebars on a bike. That's what's on the top of this fuck's shoulders. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

He had that. He had all different ones. The one I showed you is a very specific one that one's ridiculous so he makes this ridiculous rock and roll suit as he called and he said it like that's when i made the rock and roll suit like everyone's gonna go oh the origin oh my god the origin now i know gave us something he told us about the suit he said it oh my god he gave us a fucking idiot He told us about the suit. He said it. Oh, my God. He gave us a secret.

Fucking idiot. This guy's a fucking asshole. Fucking jerk. So, 1978, he goes and works for Portland again, goes back to Don Owen. He'll be in and out of there. Goes to St. Louis for a few shots down there, which I think it was Sam Muchnick that ran that. He ran that.

They go there. NWA all around the country. He does some shots in the AWA. Just going around, getting experience. This is what you did as a young wrestler back then. This is why wrestlers suck now, because they can't go around and do this. All the guys in the 80s that you saw on TV, the 90s. When you saw Hulk Hogan, Hulk Hogan had been a wrestler for fucking seven years already.

By the time he was famous with WWE. He was exhausted. He was already eight years in and super experienced. These guys now, it's like, well, he got out of camp last week, so I'm sure he'll be good. No wonder why they suck. Anyway, moving on. So he's there. He's saying in the late 70s here, he's making about 320 bucks a week.

And he said that was plenty of money in the late 70s. Really? He said plenty of money. That's enough money to make the rock and roll suit? That's what I was thinking. He had to save up for that rock and roll suit. It doesn't look cheap, but he had a few of them made. 79, he's in AWA a lot. To have it made, James.

Yeah, he had it made. Like, he didn't walk into a thrift store and just piece some shit together and be like, Mom, sew these together. He said, make that V lower. You betcha. Lower. Yeah. Keep going, pal.

I want some nut cleavage out. Don't stop till you see pubes. That's what I'm telling you right now. Just keep it going. Don't stop till there's a bit of bushel. Unreal. So, 79. Cut it further.

He's got a bit of bushel hanging out in 79. His nipples are showing. His nipples. His nipples are showing. He's in Portland. He's in Hawaii most of the year, you know, that sort of thing. So he's doing fine a little bit in the AWA. Spring of 1980, he comes back to the AWA to work full time.

This is when Vern says, and this is kind of what Vern would do, too, after a while. He would have a guy, let him get experience, and then he would take a guy and have him forever. Nick Bockwinkle worked there for 30 years, for Christ's sake. Guys like that worked there forever. He tried to marry wrestlers off to his daughters. Really? Oh, yeah. He tried to he tried to marry one of his daughters off to Hulk Hogan when Hulk Hogan was there.

And Hulk was having nothing. Hulk said the funny thing is the quote of it's so funny. Hulk said that she had a great body, but her face looked just like Vern's son, Greg, which Greg Gagne kind of looks like. I don't know how to describe me. Vern's son Greg, which Greg Gagne kind of looks like, I don't know how to describe him. He kind of looks like maybe like if you had like a Greg Brady kind of a little bit.

Does he look like him? He kind of looks like Greg Brady a little bit. Yeah, like Greg Gagne. The picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks kind of fucking... Yeah, he looks kind of like that. He's got a... He has the worst physique I've ever seen in wrestling. He just looks like an accountant that's never been in the gym.

And he did just stick him out there. Very similar. There you go. Go wrestle. Bright white. He takes his shirt off and he's fighting people. You're like, that's not great. Hilarious.

So anyway. Same name, has the same body. That's crazy. Same shit. So yeah, he comes back. Now he wants to hold on to people for a while. So he's going to use Buck and he tells, all right, Buck, you're going to be one of my guys. I'm going to use you a lot. I don't want you traveling around

as much, blah, blah, blah. So Buck says, all right, I got this gimmick to tell you about. This is my whole rock and roll thing here. And he tells him about the jumpsuit and another piece of equipment that he's going to come up with in a second. Another prop. We have in their own

words here, in their own words on selling Vern Gagne this gimmick, in their own words, quote, I went to Vern Gagne and I said, Vern, I'm the rock and roll guy. He looked at me and said, you're nuts. I said, no, I do the shaking and the people love it. He said, I'd never heard of it. So I had to explain to him that when Wahoo McDaniels gets in a pinch,

he does the woo-hoo with the mouth racist kid thing. The FSU, right. Yeah. The FSU chop bullshit. And when I get in a pinch, I go rock and roll and shake his ass. Yeah. He kind of rolled his eyes and said, okay, whatever.

You got a deal. So he's like, whatever. I don't give a shit. Sounds fine. That sounds stupid, but fine. Go nuts. So in addition- Sounds stupid, but we're give a shit. Sounds fine. That sounds stupid, but fine. Go nuts. Sounds stupid, but we're faking it, whatever. Who gives a shit?

Get out there and run around like an asshole, do whatever you want. So this asshole, at this point here, he decides to pick up another piece of equipment as a prop. Okay. In addition to his crotch suit. He needs more rock and roll. More rock and roll. So what does he decide is more rock and roll but a giant boom box the big silver one big i showed you in the picture a big giant silver the one that that he held up at the

at bigger than that bigger than q sex what is that i can't say anything yeah bigger than that fucking it's a giant it's like radio rahim from right thing yeah it's like a it's like an 80s black guy boom box he's carrying. It's the best way to describe it. You picture any black guy in New York skateboarding down the sidewalk with a boombox on his shoulder. It's that fucking boombox. It takes 12 D batteries. It's one of those. Just 12 of them.

You may as well take a car battery. It costs you $42 to put batteries in this fucking thing. That's all there is to it. How bad do you need to carry around your music? It's fucking ridiculous is to it. How bad do you need to carry around your music? It's fucking ridiculous. Super ridiculous. Cost you $42.

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A disco jumpsuit and a black guy boombox, neither of which said that guy's a rock and roller. Clearly. No. That says to me this guy's super confused. That says to me that guy doesn't know fuck about rock and roll. No. He's dressed like Freddie Mercury and fucking, you know, Afrika Bambaataa. I don't understand that.

It looks like you robbed Run DMC and made a boombox. Yeah. What the fuck is going on? Fucking asshole. Oh, he's such an idiot, this guy. And this isn't even the thing that you're supposed to be mad at him for. But I'm already pissed.

This is going to seem downright charming later. And I want to take his boombox right off his shoulder, but his dick's almost out. You don't want to go near his crotch. Unreal. So 1980, he's in the AWA as his main gig, but he also goes to Japan and works for a company called All Japan Wrestling.

In the old days, there's two Japanese companies, and all of the different territories here, they were each hooked up with one of them. The WWE would be hooked up with New Japan, so they would send their guys there on tours, and they would get a huge booking fee for them because American stars are big over here. If you send Hulk Hogan over there, this giant blonde guy, they don't have that in Japan. So you get extra money for that. The promotion takes a little cut. The wrestlers make more than they would have made at home. Everybody's happy.

That was the way Vern Gagne kept people happy a lot was he could send them to Japan, make them an extra bit of money. Because Vern's, AWA's whole thing is you didn't work as much. You didn't work 29 days a month. You worked 20 days a month. That's great. So you had some time off, but yet you made the same money as the other territories. Perfect.

So everybody liked going there for that reason. You had to be in Minnesota in the winter, but whatever. Anyway, Buck at this time starts to talk about how he's trying to get himself together in fashion, and he's trying to be cool. Yeah. He starts to collect ties. He managed to collect 400 ties. Holy shit.

But as times change, what's so funny is he has big 70s ties, and then they changed to skinny 80s ties. Fucking mess. And then went back to in between skinny and fat. Yeah, he's like, this sucks. You can't collect ties like that. They go out of fashion real quick. So yeah, he's collecting ties.

But this is considered successful to him. He's wrestling. He doesn't have to drive the scrap truck, and he's got a closet full of ties. All right. Success, baby. Killing it. His fucking cock is out, and his boombox is on his shoulder. His cock's got a farmer's tan from being halfway out.

Yeah. That's what it is. The tip of it's still white, but the base is so tan. So tan. So tan. Bronze. Bronze. He says also that this is the thing, too, about how shitty the stupid rock and roll gimmick was.

Yeah. This is how dumb this was. He would put, because Vern Gagne didn't understand modern things because he's from the 40s, he would have to put on his boom box, Buck would have to put, like, music that Vern knew. So he'd have to put, like, Jerry Lee Lewis on in the boombox. Get out of here. So he's rock and roll Buck Zumhoff in 1982 wearing a disco suit, a black guy boombox playing

music from the 50s. Playing, what was that song? Great Balls of Fire. No, the other one. Can you add another song? Hot Chickaroo. Hot Chickaroo. He's playing Hot Chickaroo by Mickey Dora's buddy. Ricky Wayne. Ricky Wayne? Hot Chickaroo. Hot Chickaroo. He's playing Hot Chickaroo by Mickey Dora's buddy, Ricky Wayne. Ricky Wayne. Hot Chickaroo.

Check out episode 71, I think. Mickey Dora. That's what he's doing. Hot Chickaroo. Fucking Hot Chickaroo. So this is a confused gimmick. If you're in the crowd, you're like, well, he's playing Great Balls of Fire. He's dressed like Travolta.

And he's wearing a fucking, he's got a boom box. I saw a black guy in the city. Like, what the fuck is going on with this asshole? The hell is that? But the people fucking love this guy. The people loved him. The people of Minnesota were just as confused. They were confused.

He got over as like a major, like a good guy. They loved him. People cheered for him. Kids loved him. Really? Women loved him. Jesus. Women loved this jackass.

He looks so stupid, too. There's no way you could love him. He's in the opening match getting beat all the time. Then actually at this point, he actually starts to get a little success in the AWA. They start to like him so much. He's in tag team matches with Hulk Hogan throughout this period. Really? It's Hulk

Hogan, Buck Zumhoff and Tito Santana, who's a WWF star forever and ever and Intercontinental Champion and all this shit, and Buck Zumhoff. It's the weirdest thing. He tags with Andre the Giant a couple times when he comes through the territory.

This is when Hulk Hogan takes over the AWA. This is before he goes to New York. This is before he becomes WWF champion and becomes all this shit. This is right after Rocky III came out. He was in Rocky III, as we know, tossing Sylvester Stallone. This made him a massive star in wrestling. Massive.

None of these guys were in mainstream movies. Nobody would use a wrestler in mainstream movies. Actually, Stallone's always been very good about that. He used Terry Funk in Over the Top. He's in that. He ripped his shitting arm off. He didn't have to arm wrestle Terry Funk, but he threw him through a door, a glass door in the hotel scene.

So anyway, Hulk Hogan is involved in this whole thing. This is when he's getting huge and he's making the AWA insanely popular. Yeah. AWA nationally is getting big attention right now because of Hulk Hogan. So much so that they actually have this huge show because they try to have super shows back then. Now they have pay-per-views. They have WrestleMania everybody would hear about.

Back then they would try to have a super show, which was like once a year they'd have a big show. They'd do it at a stadium or something, and they'd try to get their big crowd. There was no pay-per-view. It was just a live gig. You've got to get a big payment at some point. Absolutely. So April 23, 1983, AWA does a big show called Super Sunday. And it's at the Minneapolis. It's in Minneapolis at the St. Paul Civic Center.

And it's sold out, 20,000 people and tons of closed circuit, too. Really? They were selling closed circuit all over Minneapolis. That's awesome. There's thousands more. This was like their biggest gate ever. It's like the original pay-per-view. That's what they used to do for pay-per-view.

They'd do closed circuits. They used to do it with boxing, too. They'd do that and you'd go to a movie theater or an arena and you'd sit and watch it. Just have a closed circuit there. Yeah, it was before pay-per-view. That's what they used to do for pay-per-view. They'd do closed circuits. They used to do it with boxing, too. They'd do that, and you'd go to a movie theater or an arena, and you'd sit and watch it. Just have a closed circuit there. Yeah, it was before pay-per-view. They really didn't start doing pay-per-views until about 85 with the WrestleMania. Because people didn't have cables. They didn't have a box that was accessible.

It was the late 80s until really a lot of people started having access to pay-per-view. So they did this. It's a huge deal. This also has this match. The culmination, the main event is Hulk Hogan versus Nick Bockwinkle. And this is Hulk Hogan trying to get the championship. And it's like this huge culmination. They doubled the ticket prices for this. Really?

Because they've been waiting for it for so fucking long. This is his first championship? This is for him trying to get his first one in AWA before he went to WWF and all that stuff and beat the Iron Sheik and slammed Andre the Giant and did whatever. Became what he is now. On this card, Buck is here. Buck is on the card. Buck wrestles in the opening match against a guy named Steve Regal.

And they're feuding for the newly invented light heavyweight championship belt that basically Vern Gagne invented for Buck Zumhoff. Really? Talk about a silver-haired, middle-aged white man. No doubt. Give him a belt. So he wrestles this idiot named Steve Riegel, who's a terrible wrestler. He's fucking annoying and awful,

and I hated watching this match because Buck is terrible. He's terrible, and you want to punch both of them. Fucking awful. Buck wins the match at 8 minutes, 37 seconds, like anyone gives a shit. So June 19th, 1983, it's a couple months later. They have Buck win the AWA light heavyweight title. So this asshole adds a belt to his outfit.

Now he's got a stupid jumpsuit, a dumb shit boom box, and a belt that covers his dick. And it's all legit. It's all legitimized at this point because of that. Maybe they just gave him the belt to cover up the top of his dick. That's what it is. Your farmer's tan dick is out. It's out, dude. We can't have this shit.

Cover it with all this gold. Yes. So he wins it from a guy named Mike Graham, who is the son of a legendary promoter down in Florida named Eddie Graham. And seems like a real douchebag from everything I've seen on Mike Graham. Wins it from him. After that, he heads to Portland. He still has the AWA title, but he's going around to do a little run in Portland. I know he's in Portland, as a matter of fact.

I know for a fact that he's in Portland in late summer of 83 because of something that happens in May of 84. You can do the math there and figure out exactly what that is. So I am positive he's there for the summer of 83, at least September-ish. Somewhere around there. Somewhere around there. Absolutely. 1984, he works more in the AWA, remains champion through 84. Goes to Central States, which is Kansas City, which is known as the worst territory in the history of wrestling.

Everybody hated it. Goes to St. Louis. Goes to world class in Texas, which is another one that had major coverage on ESPN and all that sort of wrestling. Everybody hated it. Goes to St. Louis. Goes to World Class in Texas, which was another one that had major coverage on ESPN and all that sort of thing. AWA got popular, and how I know about them is from ESPN when I was a kid. When I was a kid, you'd get home from school

in, like, second grade, and it was on right after school. And so I'd watch it and be like, this guy's fucking terrible. Buck Zumhoff sucks. But I'd watch it because I'd watch any wrestling when I was little. It's brilliant programming. It is.

It was perfect. You put it right there. Then they'd they'd have like monster truck racing after that so great it's a two-hour block baby wrestling monster truck racing let's do this fuck homework which is why i do this instead of having a respectable job thanks a lot zoom off thanks zoom off you asshole so uh he's in portland uh like i said. He's back in 84, AWA, world class. World class is where the Von Erics are from, which is the most tragic story in the history of wrestling. Horrible.

Have you heard anything about the Von Erics? I believe through you. Okay, probably through this. The Von Erics are a family of wrestlers. Fritz Von Eric is there, Vern Gagne, a guy who came back and started a territory in the 50s and everybody else did. He had a Nazi gimmick where he would—

Brilliant. There was a lot of those, by the way, Nazi gimmicks where you were the bad guy because you would literally have an iron cross on your cape. Who's the most hated people in history? In the 50s, especially, and you goose step around the ring for a bunch of guys who just fought in World War II 10 years ago. They want to kill you. They're like, fuck that guy. Yeah. Fritz has a bunch of sons, and all of them die except one of them.

I think he has six sons. Yeah. They're all fucking dead. One dies as a little kid. One has a drug overdose or a stomach problem in Japan. God, Jesus. And three of them kill themselves. Yeah.

I think three of them, Mike, Kerry, and one of the others. Yes, I do remember this story. Yeah, and there's one guy left. Kerry was in the WWF for a while. He was the Texas Tornado, which he was the champion, Intercontinental champion for a while. He blew his brains out with his father's gun

in the woods because he was going to have to go to jail for prescription fraud because he was a hardcore drug addict. Yeah, because of what they're put through in this fucking... They were. I have a great Vern for you, by the way, later on. Remind me to fill you in on the demise of Vern Kanya at the end of the story. Because it's funny as shit, actually.

This guy's dementia is hilarious. Really? Oh, it's the best. He died of dementia? No, no. He died. He was in an old folks home and he had Alzheimer's and he has dementia and he's like 85 years old. But you still have instincts and shit that you do. He almost killed another old man.

What? Because he fucking took him down. He got mad at him and literally doped his ass up, took him down. And he knows like all these Olympic moves and he fucking hurt this poor old man really bad. I can't remember if he killed him or if he almost killed him, but he was like, it was a bad thing. But they couldn't

bring him away. He was like 85 years old and didn't know his ass from his elbows, so he didn't know. He was just like, yeah, he wanted to get in a ring with me, and they were like, I think he's out of it. Let's just put him back in his room. Let's just give him extra. Let's just put him back in his cage and give him some new pudding. Extra medicine. He'll be okay. So,

he's down in Texas a lot. Horrible. He's going to, the fact that he, the reason I bring all this up is to bring up the culture in Texas for something that's going to happen very soon. This all has a reason. I'm not just giving groundwork for nothing here. Covering his travel itinerary for nothing. Yeah, no, I'm not covering that shit for nothing. All this means something.

March 25th, 1984, he loses his light heavyweight title to Steven Riegel, the aforementioned douchebag asshole. In Texas, he wins teams with Iceman King Parsons, who's this cool black dude with crazy hair. Sounds like it. He had a weird kind of a mohawky thing with braids and shit. It was a mess. But yeah, he had a real

charismatic guy, Iceman King Parsons. Goes there, they win some tag titles. I think it was the America's Tag Team titles. Not their main one, but like their second level tag belts. Because they were tiny guys, both of them. Now, 1985, he's mainly in AWA, pretty much. He also goes to world class down in Texas and goes to Jim Crockett, which is in North Carolina, which is where Ric Flair and all those guys are.

Also in Continental, which I believe is the shithole Alabama territory. So now 85, 1985, he's mainly in the AWA. He's also in Texas, goes down world class a little bit again. Jim Crockett, like I said, Continental. He's not in AWA for some reason. On September 28th, 1985, they have a huge card in Comiskey Park the baseball stadium in Chicago where the White Sox play.

It's Super Clash is the name of it. A bunch of guys from different... That sounds awesome. It's cool. They have the Texas guys. They have the different organizations. They all kind of come together. This is an attempt to fight Vince McMahon off. Vince McMahon did WrestleMania in April of there, March of 85.

WrestleMania, that sounds stupid. Super Clash. And it was a huge hit. Fuck yeah. And they went, oh, fuck. That's what we've got to do. They said, literally, we need to do a big show because he had Mr. T on and it was a huge deal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This show here, all the other promoters said, okay, we need to get together and join forces to compete with that asshole. Let's Voltron this. Yeah, because he's taking all his guys. This is when Vince McMahon came in. This is when the AWA is on the downslope. Super Sunday was grace. 1983, that's grace for Buck Zuboff. That's grace for the AWA.

That is grace. Top of the mountain. After that, Vince McMahon comes in, steals everybody. Everybody worth stealing. Takes Hulk Hogan. Takes Bobby the Brain Heenan. Top of the mountain. After that, Vince McMahon comes in, steals everybody. Shit. Everybody worth stealing. Takes Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan. Takes Bobby the Brain Heenan. Takes Sergeant Slaughter.

Takes Mean Gene Okerlund. No, Slaughter was already up into WWF. He was already up there? Yeah, yeah. He had been in there in 81, 82 fighting Pat Patterson and doing a bunch of shit. Steamboat went to Mid-Atlantic. He was in with Crockett and those guys. Jesus.

But Iron Sheik. Anybody that had a great gimmick. And worth the shit. And worth the shit. Yeah, like I said, Iron Sheik, Hulk Hogan, and those guys. Jesus. But Iron Sheik. Anybody that had a great gimmick. And worth a shit. And worth a shit. Yeah, like I said, Iron Sheik, Hulk Hogan, all these guys. Iron Sheik, that gimmick is so fucking good that he still runs it and he doesn't even wrestle. He's still going. He's still got it on Twitter.

Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, to steal Hulk Hogan and to steal these guys was a huge, and to steal Mean Gene Okerlund. What kind of money must it have been? Oh, it was huge. It was big money. Okerlund. What kind of money must it have been? Oh, it was huge. It was big money. It was big money.

Yeah, for them. It's a guarantee you're going to be a fucking household name forever. Yeah, I'm going to take you. And he told Hulk Hogan, too. I'm going to take you to New York, and you're going to be the star. You're going to be my guy. Your daughter's going to have a pop fucking career. Even though she has no talent.

She has nothing. You can push out a talentless child. Your son's going to kill somebody. It won't even matter. I was going to say, your daughter could have no, your children could be talentless and murdering, and it doesn't even fucking matter. Doesn't matter. Still going to be fine and beloved.

Everybody's going to love you. No problem. So that's what happened. He stole them. He stole Bobby the Brain. He and these are all huge cogs, basically just destroyed Vern's business. I mean, fucking ravaged it, losing all those guys. It was terrible.

So they're trying to put something together with the remaining people who are left on all these other territories. They have Super Clash in 85. For some reason, Buck is not on the card. I don't know where the hell he is, but you'd think he would want to be there for a big show like that. Probably made a few extra bucks. November 28th, 1985,

he wins the title back from Steve Regal, the light heavyweight title of the AWA. He talks a lot in this time about ribs, about jokes they play on each other in wrestling. They call it ribs. There's a lot of fucked up ones. Gets a little hungry, does he? Yeah, no, he's like, I like ribs a lot. Tell you, I really like ribs.

Can we talk about your match tonight? First, let's talk about ribs. First, I want to talk about barbecue. Is there anything ribs around here? What do you know about barbecue, first of all? What's the best place in town to get ribs? He tells a story about Kurt Hennig. You guys know Kurt Hennig?

He's Mr. Perfect. He was for a long time. That's where he started out was the AWA. His dad is Larry the Axe Hennig, who was one of the biggest stars in the AWA. And he's a second-generation guy, and he started out there, and he was actually there until 1988 he stayed. He is the biggest joke player in wrestling history. Really? One of, considered.

Yeah, he loves to fuck with people. Okay. And I guess he would fuck with Buck quite a bit because he fucked with everybody. Because Buck is stupid and thought that that outfit was good. And he'd see him with that outfit and be like, look at this fucking jackass. This fucking idiot. That's a rube. Jesus, they gave him a was good. Look at this fucking jackass. This fucking idiot. That's a rube. They gave him a belt?

Yeah. What a fucking moron. So he said that he's never forgiven Henning for this one. Buck got a phone call from a girl who was supposed to want to meet him in a parking lot. Uh-oh. And so Buck got all dressed up and went out to the parking lot. What an idiot. And waited for two hours and nobody ever came.

No girl ever showed up. And found out it was Kurt heading afterwards. Because I guess the next night Kurt was like, how is that girl? And he's like, how'd you? Hey, fuck you. Like, how'd you know about that? Is the girl called? How's the view from the parking lot? He's just sitting around like, let's call this guy and fuck with him.

Why not? Like, he's a jerk off with a stupid outfit and a dumb boombox. Let's call him and set up a date and then we'll just go about our day. Sure. What the hell? See what happens there. Ridiculous. That's something that you never forgive somebody for?

Never. You're stupid enough to go out into a parking lot and wait. Buck's done much worse that I'll never, ever fucking forgive him for. They used to do crazy shit, these guys. They'd be going to Canada, and they'd know they had another carload of guys behind them. So they'd be like, hey, the guy's behind him. I think they got a bunch of drugs. That's the shit.

That's where it's at. So they were going to go off their ass. The one they would do to—actually, this happened to Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty, who we're going to talk about in a minute. Shawn Michaels, everybody has probably heard of, even if you're not a wrestling fan. They had a car, and apparently Mr.—I think this was a Mr. Fuji. This one might not have been Mr. Fuji, but one of these, what they did was what Fuji would do is you'd come out to your car and start it up. Nothing would happen.

The fuck is going on? Go pop the hood. Whole fucking engine would be gone. What? Whole entire fucking engine. He didn't take the whole engine out. Empty hood. Not a spark plug.

Whole engine, empty hood. He didn't take the coil wire. No. He took a whole 440 out of the truck. And they'd sit there and go, what the fuck are we going to do now? And they'd sit there, and then Fuji would have somebody come and put it back. He would pay for it. What?

That's an expensive bank. It is, but he would do it on purpose. He's the guy, I think I told the story last time, where he's a Japanese guy, Fuji, or he'd play a Japanese manager, and whenever Whenever anybody come in from Japan, they'd stick him with him is like you take care of him and translate for him and shit like that. He took the guy. The arena was 20 minutes from his house. He took him on a fucking six hour journey, made the guy drive and was like, it's a long

trip. You know, go this way. Six hours. They finally get to the arena. They wrestle. And Fuji's like, I'll drive home. I'll drive home. 20 minutes.

They pull into the driveway. And I was like, what the fuck home. I'll drive home. 20 minutes they pull into the driveway. And everybody's like, what the fuck? That's a prank. We drove for six fucking hours. That's a solid prank. But the fact that this guy would sit in the car, too, for six hours just to play a trick on this guy is amazing. He's willing to fuck his whole day just to fuck them. Just to fuck with this guy.

It's incredible. Incredible. That's amazing. Unreal. So April 20th, 1986 is a card called Wrestle Rock. Okay. This might be the stupidest thing ever. It's in the Metrodome, the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome, where the Twins and the Vikings

played forever before they finally knocked that shithole to the fucking earth because it's a dump. They promote this just insanely heavy. It's all they talk about for fucking months. What's their stadium now? I don't know what it's a dump. They promote this just insanely heavy. It's all they talk about for fucking months. What's their stadium now? I don't know what it's for. Some corporate... Who the fuck knows? I don't know. Corporate... I think it's Target Field. I think it's Target.

Target's based in Minneapolis. So this is in response to WrestleMania 2, which was a big thing. They did three cities in the whole deal. So they decide to have a show at the Humphrey, Uber H Humphrey Metrodome, called Wrestle Rock. Now, Wrestle

Rock, the idea here is the WWF had gone and done, they had rock and wrestling. They were on MTV. Hogan Piper on MTV. Cyndi Lauper came out with Wendy Richter to the ring. So mainstream. Yeah, it got real mainstream. Captain Luebano was in one of Cyndi Lauper's videos.

Fucking face pierced. Face all pierced up. So they said, well, let's do a show with a rock concert afterwards. Let's do that. This sounds great. We'll get somebody real hot. Mass appeal. Mass appeal.

So they get Waylon Jennings. Jesus. Which is not in 1986. That's not your guy. That's not your guy. Not exactly your guy. But they keep doing it. This is the last stadium show the AWA will ever have. It's not your guy. That's not your guy. Not exactly your guy, but they keep doing it. This is the last stadium show the AWA will ever have.

It's going downhill. I believe they get 23,000 people to show up to this show in a 60,000 seat stadium, which whatever. That's still not a good gate and all that sort of thing. The stupidest thing about this is the promotion for it. There is a song that they have the wrestlers rap from 1986. No. And it's called the Wrestle Rock Rumble.

Oh, Jesus. Do yourself a favor right now. Don't wait. Pause this. Go to YouTube. Look up Wrestle Rock Rumble and fucking play it. And fucking play it. Is Buck in it?

Buck somehow, rock and roll Buck Zumhoff isn't in the Wrestle Rock Rumble song. How do you not put the guy that's in that? Because no one gives a shit about him. There's like a picture of him. He can make his music. Yeah, but they have Shawn Michaels' rapping in it. And Larry Zbysko and a 60-year-old Nick Bockwinkle is rapping in it. It is the most, a guy who you can't even understand, some 400-pound guy.

It's, fuck, Jerry Blackwell. It's fucking. So depressing. It's the worst thing a guy who you can't even understand, some 400-pound guy. It's, fuck, Jerry Blackwell. It's fucking. So depressing. It's the worst thing you've ever seen. It's 80s outside of a casino in Vegas. It's awesome because they used to tape their TV there. Anyway, look that up. Do yourself a favor.

Horrible. Somehow Buck gets no verse. I don't know how. Whatever. He fights a Japanese guy named Tiger Mask, who's a very famous Japanese wrestler. That night, he's beaten by Tiger Mask in 11 minutes, non-title match. Tiger Mask? Tiger Mask. It came from a cartoon. There was a cartoon

called Tiger Mask, and the Japanese people made a mask and a wrestler out of it. And apparently, it's still a gimmick to this day. They pass it on. There's been 20 different Tiger Masks. You're Tiger Mask now. It's just a gimmick, not the guy. They get a guy who's about the same size, who does the same moves, and they go, now

you're Tiger Mask. Boom. I mean, yeah, you could do that with Rey Mysterio. Yeah. You could do that with a lot of different guys. Yeah, he was an amazing wrestler, though. Back in the day, Tiger Mask used to do crazy shit that no one else did. He'd do moonsaults and crazy shit in the 80s when no one else was doing that.

So he was the first Rey Mysterio. He was like, yeah. He was the guy that kind of brought that style that people saw it the first time in America was to him. And he was fighting Dynamite Kid in Madison Square Garden in the early 80s. It's a long story. Anyway, so 86, 1986, we talk about the Rockers, who were the Midnight Rockers in AWA, who were Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty. And they were my favorites when I was a little kid, by the way. One of my favorites, because they were a tag team, and they fought these other guys who

look like child molesters, a fat guy, and a guy who looked like he drove a van very slow without any ice cream in it, put it that way. But that song was going. That song was going. They were managed by Sherry Martell, actually, who you might remember from early 90s, WWF, being Scary Sherry, being Macho Man's manager, and Ted DiBiase's manager. All right, I got you then. She's a tough broad.

Anyway, the Rockers here, Marty Jannetty tells a story about walking in on Buck Zumhoff with two girls at the same time. Okay. Right? So someone asked Buck about this in an interview, and he says- And Buck was oh-too open with it. Oh, boy. He said, him bragging about women will make you hate him even more, so I got to put it

in there. Buck says about this in their own words, quote- So one of them's sucking my dick, right? No, he says in their own words, quote- That would have been funny. Well, it was true. What can I say? I mean, it wasn't anything all the boys weren't doing, and I had my girlfriends, and, you know, I'm a man.

I can talk about this, no problem. I've had dozens of girlfriends. So he's just like, girls love me. Girls love me. So he takes his beloved-by-women ass down to Texas in 86 to work for world class. I know this for a fact because there's something that happens there. And let's get into it. Okay.

July 1986, Buck is forced to vacate the AWA light heavyweight title because he's not going to be around for a little while because he's going to be busy because he's arrested for sexual misconduct with a minor in Texas. In Texas too. A fucking minor. I mean, if they're going to do it in a place and do something terrible like that, at least go somewhere where the penalty is fucking stiff.

And also, too, this is a rumor is that it's a 14 or 15 year old girl. This is not a 17 year old girl. This is not she said she was 18 or I thought so. This is I'm fucking a child. Jesus. So this is while he was holding the title, like I said.

He's eventually convicted of fourth degree sexual assault with a minor with this whole thing. How many degrees? Ridiculous. Now, we have some backstory on this whole thing here. This is from a guy named Gary Hart. Gary Hart is an old wrestling manager and just an old, crazy, tough son of a bitch. He's this real bald guy, real scary lookinglooking guy, and he managed all the bad guys. And he looked like a tough old bastard.

He says, quote, and this is about the whole thing with Buck and everything. He says, quote, I don't know if Ken Mantell, who was the world-class booker, didn't know any better about Buck or if he just didn't check people out before he brought them in. But Buck had a predilection for underage girls. After Ken brought Buck in from the AWA, Buck was found with a young girl living in an abandoned farmhouse, which had no electricity, close to Ken's place in Decatur, and Buck was eventually sent to jail. He had a concubine that was what?

This is the important thing, because this wasn't an incident. He didn't go out and think she was older than she was and fuck this girl. He had a concubine that was, what? This is the important thing, because this wasn't an incident. Yeah. He didn't, like, go out and think she was older than she was and fuck this girl. He had a sex slave. He fucking took a fucking sex slave into an abandoned, God, imagine being a poor young girl who's 15 fucking years old and you're stuck with this asshole with his ass shaking and his stupid outfit and his fucking boombox in a no electricity abandoned fucking farmhouse in the middle of Texas.

Fuck you. She's got, she's, this didn't happen overnight. No. This took so, this took grooming and effort and lots of words and coaxing to get her to live there for him. Well, not even because I think maybe this girl, she's from some small town in Texas in the 80s, and he shows up and he's like, hey, I'm a big time guy, and I go all around the country, and you just saw me at the arena and your parents paid $8.

Hot chickaroo. Let me play this song for you. Yeah, I've had dozens of girlfriends. Dozens. You know him. The girls love him. So one of them's sucking my dick, right? Yeah.

What an asshole. So this asshole, yeah, unfucking real with this idiot. What a, I'm just so, okay, this is, by the way, this is the least bad thing he'll do. Really? In the rest of the story. This is all downhill from here and all, you just want to fucking strangle this asshole. Okay, go on. From now on.

Hate him. He's found guilty down there of fourth degree sexual misconduct. He's sent to jail in late August 1986. conduct. He's sent to jail in late August 1986. But I know for a fact that he must be out by November. By November. Because in November, on November 27th

1986, he has a match against Blackjack Mulligan. So I know for a fact he's out and wrestling. And by the way, do you think there's any penalty back home for this? Do you think silver-haired middle-aged Vern is just like, glad you're back. Could have used you on the tour.

Welcome back. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Jesus. Like, it never happened. As soon as he's out, right back in the fucking ring. Horrible. By the way, this was not considered bad back then for the wrestlers. The wrestlers had a thing of, hey, man, that's part of the deal.

Like, you go around, you fuck girls. Sometimes you fuck a child. Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes you're underage. Sometimes whatever. Sometimes you find a kid. they brag about how they used to drug women what and this is in the 80s jesus this is guys like sean michaels and shit we'll talk about this and like our guys will say about him and they would basically go uh this is the midnight rockers the rockers virginity and michaels were famous for this i've heard multiple guys talk about this where he would they would give the girls Halcyons in their drinks.

Yeah. They'd roofie them. Yeah. And then they would take them back to their room, and they would do whatever they wanted with them. And they'd ride them. And then they would shave their head and write shit on them in marker and toss them out in the hallway naked. What? That's what they would do.

Like frat pranks on girls that they fucked? Groupies, frat pranks. They would rape her and then torture her. Rape her, then shave half her head, write shit all over her with magic marker and kick her out. So she'd wake up naked in the hallway from a drug stupor. With whore written on half my shaven head. Exactly. Wow.

That's what these people would do. That's what kind of pieces of shit these guys are. Good dudes. They're good dudes, right? That was considered normal behavior and fine. Chivalry's not dead. Nothing wrong with that. What's so fucking ever? That's what I mean. So this is the culture we're

in. This isn't like he's going to go home and Vern was like, Buck, this is unacceptable. I can't have this. Morally, no. He was like, when can you get in the ring? Because you've only raped one girl. When you're out at one, I'll have a match for you by three. So, yeah, he's back by November 86.

No problem. Nobody minds. No one's even, like, making fun of him. No one's like, hey, you're fucking 15-year-old girls. Hey, you kid-toucher. Nothing? Nothing. Nothing.

Nothing. Totally fine. Because all of them, they probably fuck 15-year-old girls, too. Just didn't get caught for it. They probably didn't take him to live with them in an abandoned farmhouse like an asshole. Probably, too. Not that I'm telling them, you know, want the guy to get away with it. I don't want to give you a blueprint of how to do it.

But that's not the way. I'll tell you that right now. 1987, this is the further decline of the AWA. They do Super Clash 2. Super Clash 1 was in 85. It was a huge success. Huge. It actually was Super Clash 1.

Super Clash 2, not so much. It's at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. It is a 2,800 people show. There are 2,800 people there. That's fantastic. That's terrible. No, I mean, I want that audience. Oh, for comedy.

Yeah, that sounds great. But for how big was the venue? You go to a 20,000 seat building or a 10,000 seat building and you get 2,800. Not good. Not enough. And that's terrible. And I was... venue? You go to a 20,000-seat building or a 10,000-seat building and you get 2,800. Not good. Not enough. And that's terrible. And I wanted to see this so bad when I was eight years old. You have no fucking idea.

This was the big rematch between Kurt Henning and Nick Bockwinkle. It was going to take place there. I wanted to see it so bad. Only you and 28 other people wanted to see it. We were the only ones that cared. Absolutely. So this was completely dying, the AWU. Buck wrestles on that card.

It was so sad, too. There's just all these empty seats. It's quiet. It's so weird. Buck wrestles Sheik Adnan El-Kasey, who's a fucking manager. So this guy, I mean, he's a wrestler slash manager. Are you going to get to wrestle a wrestler? But no, he fights El-Kasey.

Are you going to get to wrestle a wrestler? But no, he fights LKC. It's so funny because Sheik Adnan LKC, I believe, is the one who is, if I'm not mistaken, he is the guy who is not even slightly Arabic or Sheik at all. He has a Texas accent. Hilarious. He's like, I'll tell you one thing. And you're like, huh? Why are you a Sheik?

On the show, he's like, da, da, da, da. But then in an interview, often he's just like, wow, this back man, I'll tell you. He's like, Why are you a Sheik? You know, on the show, he's like, but then like in an interview, like often he's just like, wow, this back man, I'll tell you, like, why did you pick that act? What the fuck? What are you doing? Yeah. So weird. Anyway, so he loses to Sheik Adnan El.

He's losing to a manager. He cheated. I watched the match. He cheated and held the rope or tights or some horse shit. Anyway, 1987, continues to work for the AWA and even goes to WWF, WWE for a couple matches. A couple TV matches where they're going to beat the shit out of him in three minutes. He's going to be one of those guys that gets squashed quickly. The record show from what I saw, he only worked about 15 matches in 86.

I'm sure Jail had something to do with that. 88, he works about five matches, only one for the AWA, works about four for the WWF, so he's just going in TVs, getting the crap beat out of them. In 88, he loses to guys like him and a tag team, lost to Demolition, who was their big tag team, lost to the Million Dollar Man, Ted DiBiase. He loses to Rick Rude. Remember ravishing Rick Rude? At least he's getting beat up by badass dudes. Well, it's the

TV matches where they would just bring a schlub and you wouldn't even hear them announce him. And then they'd bring a guy in who had music and a whole deal and beat the guy in three minutes. I mean, it sucks because you have to lose, but you at least I mean, at least a lot of people get to see you lose, I guess. I mean, that's the word. And Bucks said you go in, you get

500 bucks for a three-minute match. Yeah. Good enough. And get slammed by the best in the business. Good enough. Yeah. That's pretty much what it was. That was it for 88 in terms of WWF. Oh, my God, too. AWA had Super Clash 3 in December of 88, which was even worse than Super Clash 2.

It was in Chicago. Even less people fucking cared. Nobody cared. It's like Pokemon Go. Like, every week you're watching it just fall off. Oh, it was so bad. Wait till you see how bad it gets. We'll talk about it in a minute.

But Buck is not on the card there either in Super Clash 3, which is surprising. But there's a reason why he's not on the card. The reason why he's not on the card is because he's arrested. God damn it. And charged with fourth degree sexual misconduct with an underage goddamn girl. Unbelievable. Again. Unbelievable. Again. Wow.

Two fucking years is the second time. Two years in a row. 86 and now 88. Yeah. This fucking asshole. He's the patriots of fucking children. What the fuck? Yeah.

Back to back. Fucking dynasty. What a scumbag. He's a dynasty of kid fucking. So, yeah. This is not great. We're hating him already. You know what I mean? Horrendous. Yeah, he is at this point

he's tried. There's a trial for it on January 23rd. What state is this? This is in Minnesota. Not in Texas anymore. Now he's fucking kids in different states. Border to border baby. Southern and northern. There's a trial on January 23rd, 89. he was convicted of fourth

degree sexual misconduct with a minor and he is sentenced to 36 months in prison at stillwater prison in stillwater minnesota they really give a shit about it yeah that doesn't sound like all that much fourth degree yeah there's not enough there probably we're probably lucky you got a three-year penalty of any sort no shit um doesn't wrestle in 89 at all because he's in prison. Yeah. So it's kind of difficult to wrestle. He's locked up in the beginning of it until the end. He's released from prison in July of 1990.

And by July 20th, 1990, he is working for the AWA again. Back in it. Back. He's in a match in East Moline, Illinois on July 20th. That is his first match back. Vern does not give a fuck. Still doesn't give a fuck. We're going his first match back. Vern does not give a fuck. Still doesn't give a fuck. We're going to see even more how he doesn't give a fuck.

1990, he has two matches in the AWA. That's it because it was dying. One of the matches is he beats this guy, one of the biggest assholes I've ever seen in a wrestling ring, named the illustrious Johnny Stewart. It's just if you put an annoying guy out there and told him to run around. He's terrible. Worst wrestler I've ever seen in my life. So annoying.

He thinks he's Ric Flair. He has a robe and all this shit, and he's just awful, and it made me angry to watch. For some reason, I picture him as a ginger. No, no, no. Brown hair, try and act like he's cooler than he is, which is not at all. Annoying guy running around out there. I just picture a ginger. I don't know why. Isn't that terrible? It's fine. I is, which is not at all. An annoying guy running around out there. I just picture a ginger. I don't know why.

Isn't that terrible? It's fine. I understand. That's what I picture. Somebody who just freckles everywhere. Just freckled up. Being annoying. He beats Johnny Stewart for the light heavyweight title again.

They're giving this guy a belt. They're giving him a title again. He just got out of prison a month ago. For the second time. For the second time. For the second time of sexual misconduct with an underage girl. I don't know what the fuck they're thinking, but this is the time the AWA had more problems than Buck Zoomhoff. They did the Team Challenge series, which was wrestlers, they were in teams of like eight. And whenever they would win a match, they would get a point system that would go on a board. It was so complicated.

I remember being like 10 going I don't understand this at all. What's fucking happening? It just flopped. They stopped filming for a while in front of actual crowds because they couldn't get crowds because nobody would show up. So they tried to film in a movie. They call it the pink room of doom. Oh my God. And it's

a room with like these pink walls that you could like green screen shit onto and their plan was to green screen in an audience oh my god real bad stuff it looks and it didn't work technically because you'd be able to see it so these are empty rooms with a guy they're in a there's guys fighting in a small pink room in a ring with no people and that's the match and that was on national television on ESPN. Unbelievable. Look up pink room of doom, AWA.

Feel bad for yourselves for actually putting that shit out. Wow. Like, if you zoomed out too far, you'd see the corners of the room. You see the whole room. There's no way of hiding it. But I'm saying, like, if they were to green screen an audience, when you zoom out, those corners are going to angle the shit out of your audience. And you're going to be like, that shit's fake. What is that? It's not going to work. Yeah. What's going on with that dude's face? His face has got... It are going to angle the shit out of your audience and you're going to be like, that shit's fake. What is that? It's not going to

work. What's going on with that dude's face? His face has got... It's going to look... You know what a crowd looks like behind a wrestling ring and it doesn't look like this flat thing on a wall. The corners in the room would fuck the audience up. It would fuck it up. I mean, it was like a soundstage. It wasn't like a bedroom. It was like a soundstage. It was a back, big

wall in the back, but it was the worst looking thing ever. So you can't do that. 91, he goes, he only has two matches with the AWA because the AWA shuts down in 91. They fold in mid-91. Vern Gagne is a silver-haired, middle-aged white man. He has a sad end, too. Not only with the retirement home, but he has a huge house on Lake Minnetonka, and they took his house, Eminent Domain, to build a park. Oh, what? So there's a huge park there now on Lake Minnetonka, and they took his house, eminent domain, to build a park. Oh, what?

So there's a huge park there now on Lake Minnetonka that was his property. And his family benefited nothing from it. I mean, they gave him whatever they gave him, but it wasn't enough. He went bankrupt suing. Sure. He went bankrupt suing to get them to not take his property. He put everything he could into it. That's why he had to fold the AWA because he took his property.

He's getting heckled in the old folks home. Heard you lost everything. And then he's putting them in the hurt. Well, 91, that's why he had to close the AWA because he was borrowing against his property to fund it. What? Because it was losing money. That sucks. So he had to get rid of it.

It was a mess. Anyway, Buck wrestles two matches there. Last deal. rid of it it was a mess anyway buck uh wrestles two matches there last deal wrestles five with the uh wwf at that point uh fight sergeant slaughter okay should we train with which he knew him that must have been neat he fights the undertaker in 91 he's the first guy to be put in a body bag by the undertaker awesome he's the first guy the undertaker zipped up in a body bag which is i wish it was for real wish it was for real so fucking much. God damn it. That would have been the best.

92, he works about seven matches with WWF. He does Razor Ramon, Bam Bam Bigelow, Yokozuna. The matches on YouTube of him and Yokozuna. Watching this fucking moron flail his little self at a 600-pound Samoan man pretending to be Japanese is the funniest fucking thing you're ever going to see in your life. He just tosses him around, crushes him in the corner, sits on his fucking chest. You're like, crush that asshole.

You wish it was real so much at that point. That's how stupid Americans are. They're just like, yeah, he's totally Japanese. Yeah, look, his eyes are all slanty. I'm sure he's Japanese. It's fine. Yeah, he's with that other guy who also says he's Japanese, who he's not. We're so dumb.

Oh, God. 93, he has zero matches in a major organization. Yeah. 94, he just does indies, little independent wrestling gigs. He's, you know, county fairs and, you know, car lot parking lots and shit like that, making $30. I loved Razor Ramon, by the way. Oh, Razor Ramon was great. That fucking little curl he had. He's also in loved Razor Ramon, by the way. Razor Ramon was great. That fucking little curl he had.

He's also in the WrestleRock Rumble, by the way. Really? Him and Kurt Henning, Mr. Perfect, were tag team partners and champions at the time, and they have their own little verse, and it's fucking bad. It's so funny. Oh, no. Really? It's so hilarious.

Really? No, it's bad. You've got to watch the WrestleRock Rumble. We'll post it on our social media too. I can't wait. It's amazing. 95, he has a couple matches with the WWF, does a few indies. Triple H, actually he loses to Triple H in Triple H's television debut for WWF.

Really? His first match in public here. He beats Buck Sue Monster in that shit now. He's the owner's daughter's husband. He basically runs the place. He's the son-in-law of the shit. That's it. He's Pauly Shore. That's the best way to put it. the ship. Yep, that's it. He's Pauly Shore.

That's the best way to put it, the son-in-law. Yeah, and he is Pauly Shore. Yeah. So, 96, he has one match with the WWF, losing to the British Bulldog. We know a lot of guys seen him there. So, British Bulldog loses to him. That's also a sad match of just him getting pummeled by somebody. Really?

Now, late 1990s has some minor legal issues. He's got a living girlfriend that he has some problems with. The cops are called a bunch of times. He has some domestic violence. Smacks her around a little. Smacks her around. He has some domestic violence issues there. He's arrested a couple of times.

Fucking asshole. In the late 90s. At this point, he's working as a forklift operator. Wow. In the late 90s. At this point, he's working as a forklift operator in the shipping department of a turkey manufacturer. He's working for like Genio somewhere. Yeah, that's what it is. He's working for like that sort of thing. Like working for like fosters, like forklift farms.

Yeah. So shit has changed. Shit has changed. Deal with that. You're moving turkey carcasses around. The worst. In 1999, he has a conviction for violating a domestic violence order of protection in Kandiyari.

I know I said that wrong. Don't correct me, Minnesota. Kandiyari County, involving his girlfriend that he broke up with. So he gets convicted of that. Over in Kandiyari County. Yeah. I mean, Jesus Christ gets convicted of that. Over in Candy Ass County. Yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ, that's two 15-year-old girls. He's abusing a girl. He's in countless fucking crowds he's just shit on.

He's terrible. He's not giving Vergogna 10% of his money. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I feel bad for all these people. You found a Eugene fuck, or did you find a rock and roll? Not nearly as bad as I feel for these people here. No Eugene or Otto Zumhoff, but these are people with the last name Zumhoff that live in the Minneapolis area. All right.

Bad enough. They're probably relatives. Charlotte Zumhoff, food and beverage company owner in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Beth Zumhoff, who's an admin at the Jackson County Sheriff in Kansas City, Missouri. Don't look at my last name, please. And Jeff Zumhoff, rock and roll Jeff Zumhoff. Owner of Zumhoff GMP Services Inc., a pharmaceutical company in the greater Minneapolis area. He's an owner of a business.

In Minneapolis. With the last name of Zumhoff. Poor bastard. 1998. Remember when he was in Portland in 83? Yeah. 1998. Buck is approached about a possible daughter that he might have. 18 years later.

Well, no, this is 15 years later. Oh, 15 years later. 14. I'm a great mathematician. She said that Zumhoff had a one-night stand with her mother back in 1983 in Portland. Her date of birth is May 6th, 1984. And so she comes to Buck in 88.

Buck has a paternity test before he does anything. Just because he thinks she's hot. Yeah. So he's like, maybe I'll bang her. So figures out, gets a paternity test, and he ends up contacting the school that she goes to to see if he could set up a meeting with her to meet through the school. So she, in 1998, spends spring break with her father. Never met him before.

First time. She's 15 years old. Spends spring break with him. That must have been nice for her. 1999 comes around, and Buck says that he wants to reunite with his family. And he invites her to move in with him. Yeah. Says he wants to, you know, connect with her as his daughter.

She ends up in a month. She moves in with him in his home in New London, Minnesota. So, I mean, her whole life she's probably sitting there going, my dad's out there. I just want to meet my dad. My dad's out there. I just want my dad. I can relate. I got my dad and, wow, he was like a wrestler and stuff.

That's pretty cool. My mom said, you know, whatever. Her mom was a groupie. Right. I mean, that's the way it works here. Now, so much so, he's so happy that in 2000, he starts a company called Rock and Roll Wrestling Company. He's a promoter now in a wrestling company with his daughter. Wow.

His daughter helps him run the business, and he also trains his daughter. Wow. His daughter helps him run the business. Okay. And he also trains his daughter in wrestling. As a wrestler. As a wrestler. His promotion features mainly females and midgets. So it's like a novelty thing. And of course, Buck gets in there in his fucking suit still with his boom box at 50 years old.

Throwing some midgets around. Like a fucking moron. Yeah. They run Fridays and Saturdays. They claim they work 140 to 160 shows a year. Jesus. That's what they claim. Buck says that he doesn't miss, in 11 years, he never missed a weekend.

Always working, working, working. They run shows in Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, North and South Dakota. So that upper area where it's cold and people have nothing to do. I don't blame them. 170 shows? 140 to 160. 140 to 160 shows. That's a lot.

At like 50 bucks a show. That's what it is. It's got to be like five grand a year. Yeah, it's got to be like forklift money. He'd make more on the forklift, I'm sure. He's got to be killing it. Now, here's an article about the rock and wrestling, the rock and roll wrestling that I found. It's kind of advertising a future match from, like, 2010.

It's going to be at the Eagles Club. It says it's filled with five wrestlers, one who is 7'1", 400 pounds, and another who is a female midget. And another who's a child molester. And a child molester. Zumhoff himself. His daughter, her name is Heather, by the way. She's going by Heather Matthew Zumhoff. She goes by a bunch of other different names.

We'll get to the worst one of all. Zumhoff is, like I said, the owner. He's saying that his daughter is going to be, his daughter is like a bad guy. And so his daughter is fighting a midget at the end of the fight. And his daughter is going to get like a little out of hand. He's telling him what's going to be his daughter's like a bad guy and so his daughter is fighting a midget at the end of the fight and his daughter's going to get like a little out of hand with he's telling him what's going to happen he's like my daughter's going to kind of get a little too much she's going to throw this little midget out the ring someone's going to come out and protest it and save them and that sort of thing that's how they get a little little storyline going um save it save the midget yeah okay yeah exactly save that midget he said that everyone's going to get real, and he said members of the audience are going to get out of their chairs.

I'm telling you. They're going to be upset. They're going to want to come beat my daughter up. We're going to make this a crime against humanity. It is. And the audience is going to save the day. What? That's right.

How about the midget saves the day? Disgusting. So he says it's about fun. People are free to shout and holler during the show we'll know shit um you know he's just going through the whole thing he said it's been 11 years we know what we're doing you know this is great we do all these shows we haven't had a weekend off in 11 years uh he says we give the fans their money's worth no customers ever complain nobody's ever wanted their money back the whole deal his daughter by 2010 is uh you know 25 years old yeah um and she started

wrestling as in high school when he took her in she was 16 years old she started wrestling he trained her immediately uh that's going to be at the eagles club somewhere in minnesota for some reason now uh tickets nine dollars uh seven dollars in advance nine dollars at the door for something bargain in 2006 my whole thing was i was wondering what does something like that. It's a bargain. In 2006? My whole thing was I was wondering, what does something like that cost? You know what I mean? So we have an explanation from him on this, in their own words, on why this is successful. In their own words, quote,

I believe the reason we're still doing well around here is because we're tapping into a lot of people who remember All-Star Wrestling, which is what the AWA show is called. So I use that all the time when I ask people, do you remember All-Star Wrestling? I was the guy with the big radio. And they say, oh, yeah, I remember you.

So that makes it an easier sell. You still have the radio. That's sadder. Yeah. No. You know what makes it an easier sell is when you say, I'm so-and-so. And they go, yeah, yeah, that name I recognize. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, that dipshit. He says, I was the guy with the radio. The big radio. Not great. Not great at all. That's fucking embarrassing. His daughter is pretty much his main star here. Her debut was April 29, 2000.

And she's been his big draw, which he's making her the big draw. She goes by either Heather Hallberg, which I think is what she's wrestling under now, Heather Zumhoff, when she wants to probably tag with her dad or something, or her main name throughout this whole promotion, which was, quote, Heather Marie the Virgin. They called her the Virgin. Here's in their own words about Buck talking about his push of his daughter here. He's in their own words, quote,

plus we have the lovely ladies who wrestle, including my daughter, the Virgin, who has made quite a name for herself in our company. Boy, people call me for her all the time because they want to see the Virgin. She's a big show for us. Plus, we have our own set of midgets that we use regularly. That sounds amazing. Tell me you don't want your own set of midgets, Jimmy. Just a little troop of them you can dispatch wherever you want.

He should have at least named them the Oompa Loompas. That would have been even better. At minimum, give them a kick-ass nickname. Plus, we've got this little troop of midgets. Pretty cool that we have our own set of midgets. He owns them. We have a complete set. It's like a ratchet set.

What do you need, a 3-8? I got it. I got a whole set over here. We have our own set of midgets. We collected the whole set. We didn't whole set. We didn't miss one. Every week we went to McDonald's, got a new one out of the Happy Meal.

We got the whole set. We caught them all. We got everything. So in addition to this, he's also wrestling kind of outside the loop a little bit. Or this might be his company. March 26, 2011, he loses to the Honky Tonk Man. He did? In Duluth, Minnesota.

How about that? He's still out there. The two music guys. Yeah, except his was actually Honky Tonk Man. He had a guitar and an Elvis jumpsuit. He had a thing, not just a dipshit. He's better. Anyway. It was a mate on his own and a boombox that he stole.

Yeah. 2011, he does this long interview with HighSpots.com, which they do a bunch of wrestling shoot interviews, which are real things out of character. He claims that he's very happy. He and his daughter are running the promotion. They're a great team. One more in their own words here. Plus, he's talking about the ladies.

And he says, this is awesome. He says in their own words, quote, you know, I got my abs back. I'm in good shape and I got a good job. These women, they're, you know, 39, 40, single moms. They don't want me. They want some 20-year-old shithead that works at Walmart. Oh, God. I don't think that's actually what they want.

No, that's not true. That's not true. I think they just don't want you because you're sad. And you're old. You're a very sad man. You're old and you're very sad. You've aged out of their market. You have a jumpsuit that's pathetic.

The girls that want 20-year-old guys are girls that don't want 50-year-old men. That's all. They're girls. They're young women. Exactly. Right. You're not fucking 20-year-old guys are girls that don't want 50-year-old men. That's all. They're girls. They're young women. Right. You're not fucking 20-year-olds anymore. Age out of it. There's nothing wrong with that.

Not at all. No, that's what it is. It's just life. It's life. So June 2011, he's been running this promotion the whole time. His daughter has been running it with him, and they live together and run the promotion. It's like an office business scenario. June 2011, Heather moves out of Buck's house to get married.

She finds a man and marries him. So she moves out. Buck is super, super upset about the whole thing because that's going to take away from wrestling and all this sort of thing. So he says one more in their own words here on this whole thing with this. He says in their own words, quote, My thing with this he says in their own words quote my daughter you know she ran off got married wants to get knocked up i haven't talked to her in months she deleted me off the website and she won't talk to me so i have nobody running the

business right now the website the website no no i think he means off of the company okay the rock and roll wrestling she deleted me i'm sure she runs it i'm sure he doesn't know how to fucking run a website or so he doesn't have the ability to go i can't picture him doing like html no you know what i mean like it's not coding i don't figure it he's not doing that so she wants to get knocked up sir you have to keep the illusion that she's a virgin yeah you can't say that please she wants yeah you can't say she's the virgin so he's sitting there now and he's like he's he has nowhere to go yeah he's got fucking nowhere no now, and he's like, he has nowhere to go.

He's got fucking nowhere, no business, no nothing. He's like, what am I going to do? I'm all alone. I don't know how to cook. So he goes out, and he finds a little restaurant. He opens it up. He opens it up, and it's the shawarma man. It's the shawarma man.

And he says, how is it you've come to arrive here? Why are you here? You go to Texas. You have 50. Come on. A little young for you? Come on. Farmhouse?

You no electric with this girl? Not even legal in my country. Well, in my country, you can marry that age, but you have to at least provide electric. You can't be in no farmhouse. No. You have to give your father a chicken. Why? You give something.

Why? Signs say closed. You come. Why? I don't want you here. That's too time. You get arrested. You go.

You want shawarma? I know made for you. No. You, I say no. You go. Signs say closed. You go. Jesus.

Buck leaves dejected. He's very sad. He's hungry. He wants shawarma, but he can't do it. Now, 2013, he appears in a 27-minute comedy short film called The Electric Trippers. Is this on Funny or Die?

I don't know. I doubt it's there. It had a bunch of local Minnesotans in it. The description on IMDb of this, it has an IMDb, is, quote, Stella and Zach take off on an adventure in their electric Tesla Roadster, leaving behind public charge points. They unplug and set out to prove that electric range anxiety is just a state of mind. Out in the countryside of northern Minnesota, they meet many new friends who will help them stay charged up for their travels while providing them with hilarious entertainment.

Oh, I'm sure it's hysterical. Wow, does that sound like shit? That sounds terrible. That's a dumb thing. It's a short. Who made that? Is it for Tesla, or is that just them going, we could try to push the...

A couple of hipsters, and they grabbed Buck Zumhoff and stuck him in it. We can push the electric car agenda. 2013. By the way, he has not done the worst thing yet. It's coming up. Don't worry. By the way, if you're pushing the electric car agenda, I'm sure way he has not done the worst thing yet it's coming up don't worry and by the way if you're pushing the electric car agenda i'm sure that's great and all but

it was now been pushed by a fucking child molester so there's that well that's fine but yeah let's help charge let's squeeze him down and charge things with his essence how's that can we do that yeah 2013 he's at a fundraiser for it's a it's a some fundraiser thing where guys up on stage talking about some uh a seven-year-old boy that they're doing a fundraiser for who's dying and they run some wrestling promotion yeah these guys buck just barges up and grabs the mic out of the guy's hand and starts saying that drunk brother at a wedding he's like look guys everybody runs a good show and these guys good, and they run a nice promotion. They said that, but we'd like to be mentioned, too.

We run a nice promotion here, too. Blah, blah, blah. That's what he did? Buck says this. Wow. Buck says, yeah, and I know you're doing a thing for a thing. Well, our next show is a fundraiser to raise money for a five-year-old kid with syphilis that we know. He said a five-year-old kid with syphilis.

his money for a five-year-old kid with syphilis that we know so he said a five-year-old kid with syphilis now it's a youtube video so the audio might be off but i heard five-year-old boy who got syphilis and i'm like did he say syphilis he doesn't know that sexually transmitted and i scrolled down some in the comments and like two other people commented did he say there's a five year old boy with syphilis i'm'm like, okay, that wasn't just me. So I think he just made that up on the spot. Just like, well, we got charity too. Yeah, we got a five-year-old with syphilis. We got lupus, I got

syphilis. Don't worry about it. It's fine. That's amazing. What a disaster. He fucking, he Kanye'd a wrestling event. He did. That is not the worst thing. Buckle up, Jimmy. Here it comes, man. Everybody.

You've been waiting for it. It's fucking worth it. That was amazing. Yeah. You're not going to have a smile on your face in one second here. So May 27. Enjoy it while you can. All of you enjoy it while you can and buckle the fuck up here.

Buckle the fuck up. Yeah. May 27, 2013. Buck is arrested. Okay. He is facing six felony counts of first-degree criminal sexual assault and six felony counts of third-degree criminal sexual assault. That seems like a lot of rape over a long period of time. assault seems like a lot of rape over a long period of time he is accused of having sex yeah with this victim between the years 1999 and 2011 the criminal complaint in the case states that

buck first met the female victim in 1998 do i need to say any more than this. Began having sex with her in June 1999 when she was 15 years old. Wow. It's his daughter. He is accused of having sex for fucking over a decade with his own fucking daughter. This utter and complete piece of fucking shit. I was right all along. He thought she was hot when he met her. What a scumbag.

He fucking recruited his own... He groomed her for... He was into it the whole life. For him to go seek her out and to want to reunite his family, it seemed out of character, didn't it? You fucking said, wow, he's being really responsible with this. No.

He was like, oh, I like 15-year-old girls. Remember how I tried to keep that one in a house and I couldn't because her parents probably got a little suspicious. Well, this one's parent won't get suspicious. No, I'll know all about it. Unbelievable. What a shit bag. She says that she moved out in 2011. That's when it ended.

She says that the abuse began when she moved in to his new London home, progressed from fondling to oral sex to intercourse. She alleges approximately 1,800 acts of sexual abuse occurring in the home and everywhere else, including all over the places they went on the road. Until she left in June 2011. The woman's mother, Heather's mother, even attempted to remove her from the residence at one point, but Buck, fuck asshole, fucking told his daughter that he would kill himself and it would be her fault if she left. So she stayed because she's a poor kid and she doesn't know any better.

And he's a predator. Un-fucking-real also. She's a poor kid and she doesn't know any better. And he's a predator. Un-fucking-real. Also, and after they left, it says that Buck became violent, threatened her, threatened her husband, threatened suicide, just lashed out completely. He is being held on $500,000 cash or bond or 100 – that's for an unconditional release or $100,000 for a conditional release, which would be no alcohol, no contact with the victim, no anything. Okay.

This is how it started. This is 2011? This is 2013 when he's arrested. Okay. Two years after she left it. Yeah. Okay. Un-fucking-real.

So she claims, not claims, this is what happened. She says for her 15th birthday, on her 15th birthday, she was with him. She was wearing a two-piece bathing suit. He insisted on rubbing baby oil on her, including under her swimsuit bottom, saying that he didn't want her to get a funny tan line. Oh, God. That was the first night she moved in, he began touching her breasts. Yeah. After two weeks, he began doing a variety of sexual acts.

He made her dance in front of him wearing her bra and panties. Also watched pornography with her. Jesus. He wanted to within a few weeks, he had to have sex with her two or three times a day. Good fuck. Which would injure her and never give her time to heal. He just didn't give a shit. A day. Good fuck. Which would injure her and never give her time to heal. Yeah. He just didn't give a shit.

At one point, it took eight weeks for bleeding to stop. What? Because of the non-stop fucking abuse. I hope somebody fucks him right in his Zoom office, motherfucker. Oh, my God. I hate him so much. See what I mean? Are you angry right now? Everybody out there fucking angry as me having to fucking read about this shit for three weeks.

Oh, my God. Okay. So in July, this is worse. In July 99, Heather's mother, the girl that, you know, whatever, that he had a one night stand with, moved in too. So Buck was abusive to her. It was domestic violence and everything else. So the mother tried to move out in September 99 with the daughter and leave the state. She wanted to call law enforcement.

But Heather said that he threatened to kill himself and she wouldn't leave and to just leave him alone and they'd be fine. Unfucking real. So the mother leaves, leaves for multiple years, two to three times a day. He has sex with this fucking poor woman, a girl, a woman at this point. I don't even fucking know. The whole time he's running independent shows. He's bringing her with he's calling her Heather, the virgin. Yeah.

And he knows damn well, 1800 times. She's not a fucking unbelievable. He's dragging her impregnator. Yes. Wow. Jesus. God. Fuck. Of course dragging her all around. Did he ever impregnate her? Yes. Wow. Jesus. God. Fuck.

Of course he did. She lost it, but he fucking impregnated her. During this period, like I said, he brought her on the road. Everybody saw shit was wrong, too. Oh, Jesus. Nobody in wrestling said shit. Silver-haired, middle-aged assholes through the entire thing. Nobody says fucking shit.

So scummy. And she says she didn't say anything because she was scared that the people in wrestling. She's a young girl. She didn't want to get kicked, get blackballed from wrestling. And she thought, unbelievable. She thought he could do that to her. Yeah. There's corroboration from another woman who said in 2001 while she was 17, they were living

in Cyrus and Zumhoff wanted a fucking threesome with this girl and his daughter, and she witnessed Buck inappropriately touching his daughter after she turned the offer down. Wow. This lady. Wow. Other people saw him French kissing and dirty dancing with her at a high school dance. Oh. I just gagged.

That was so gross. Multiple people knew that he shared a bed with his daughter. Oh my God, so gross. I'll share a bed with my daughter all the time. She's like a little kid who has nightmares. She's terrified all the time.

If you're sleeping with her when she's 17, we're going to have to talk about that. I'd be willing to let you chat. I'd be like, help me get her the fuck out of here because I want to sleep alone. Wow. She eventually gets married and moves away. Just imagine what kind of horrible piece of shit she married probably just to get away from there. And claimed that she, like I said, Buck would get violent, threatened both her and her new husband, the whole deal.

Wow. So that's May 27, 2013. Like I said, he's arrested. The county attorney, Jennifer Fisher, says that the nature of these crimes were such that she is going to attempt to keep him out of circulation for the rest of his life. That's what she's going for. Thank fuck. Yeah, 1,800 times between the rest of his life. That's what she's going for. Thank fuck. Yeah, 1,800 times between the ages of 15 and 27.

Wow. That's so much. Wow. Immediately, too. Fucking immediately. Yeah. The three counts, three of these counts are related to oral sex. Counts four through 12 are related to sexual intercourse and a variety of other. It's between July 1, 1999 and May 5, 2001, the day before her 17th birthday.

So everything after that is technically legal, but disgusting. Yeah. Absolutely biggest shit in the world, but fucking legal. He faces a maximum of 30 years in prison and a $40,000 fine for each of the first six counts. Yeah. Related to the period when she was under 16. For the other six counts, when she was 16, it's a maximum of five years in prison each and $30,000 fine. Holy shit.

Yeah. The prosecutor was like absolutely, as you can imagine, had the same reaction we did. We were just like, are you fucking kidding? And the prosecutor publicly kept saying there's no fucking way that nobody in the wrestling community knew this was going on. No way in hell. You guys knew this was up. You're even bigger fucking scumbags. No way that they didn't have a clue.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. So July 12, 2013, somehow he posts a non-cash bond. I don't know if he put a house up, if people did whatever for him, but he gets the fuck out somehow and is out for whatever. But it doesn't matter. He has a couple trials canceled in 2013. They're pushing it back. Everybody needs more time to, I don't know. Put the scumbag away.

Fucking settle their stomachs maybe. I don't even know, man. Taking Pepto every day. Yeah. Lots of Tums are sold in that state. You fucking know it. Trial starts in March of 2014. A woman named Holly Kojalo-Ruder testifies that she had her on her bus while she was a bus driver between 1998 and 2001.

And she testified once that while driving her bus, there was a vehicle driving erratically behind the bus. And Heather, the daughter, made the bus driver stop because she wanted to get out of the car and go ride with her dad, who was behind them driving erratically for some reason. I don't know if he needed some right then or what. that Heather and Dick had kissed in a romantic way and that his hand was on her body in an inappropriate way. Also testified the same woman that, like I said, about the dirty dancing. Also, they were dirty dancing closely and intimately at a bar one time. When she was young? He's taken her to fucking bars and dirty dancing with her.

Wow. She also, the daughter, heather went to university of minnesota and there's a woman named jennifer jennifer newman who met heather while they were both attending university of minnesota said that uh said that buck and heather had sexual contact in front of her in the apartment so she witnessed this also. Wow. Yeah, another woman testified that she wrestled with Buck's wrestling group for several years, and she saw basically that Buck and Heather lived like husband and wife. That's what she said. She said, quote, the young woman was like the wife, and Buck took care of the manly stuff, she said. Yeah.

She said that Heather never went anywhere without Buck and that they often kissed and held hands in front of others on weekend wrestling trips and that Buck got verbally upset at her, at Heather, whenever she got near any other men. Of course, because that's how he keeps her to himself. Wow. So gross.

This is vile, man. This is the fucking, this is what I mean. This is the fucking worst. So uncomfortable. This is the worst. Yeah. Yeah, this is the worst, this is the fucking this is what i mean this is the fucking worst so uncomfortable this is the worst yeah this is the worst one of the worst people we've done the guy who cut his friend's heart out i'm not as fucking mad at him i hope i'm worse here i hope yeah bucked right in the zoom off yeah that's all i fucking hope um his defense attorney carter grainer who i don't know what the fuck he's thinking. He denied a bunch of the testimony and said that he never had any inappropriate actions with her. Buck takes the stand, takes the fucking stand.

Of course he does. Admits sharing a bed with her and sleeping with her, but nothing else. Says that he did that on the road at wrestling shows in order to save money on hotel rooms and shared a bed with other wrestlers also when they came to stay. And that was common. He says, fuck in their own words. He said it was either I slept with her, let another guy sleep with her or let her sleep on the floor.

So how about everybody? How about you sleep on the floor and take the bed? Yeah. How about you do that? Why are those other options so awful? Wow. March 5th, 2014. floor or take the back. Yeah. How about we do that? Why are those other options so awful? Wow. March 5th, 2014, Buck is convicted of this shit, obviously, after less than four hours of deliberations.

I don't even know what took him that long. Six counts of first degree, six counts of third degree. After the trial, this is March 5th, they read the verdicts. Afterwards, Carter Grainer, the attorney, asked to meet with his client in a conference room before they do the sentencing and everything. Buck asked to use the bathroom on the way to the conference room also, too. He fucking

tries to make a run for it out of court. He did? He got called guilty and tried to run away. Tried to break. How the fuck are you not going to be recognized? Where did he think he was going to blend into? First of all, this boombox on his shoulder. That's hilarious. He is tackled by bailiffs immediately and dragged the fuck back in there.

I was hoping you were about to say he took a cyanide pill. Yeah, that would have been great. I really wish he would. He's supposed to come back May 9, 2014 for sentencing. Now for his attempted escape, which is another four to ten years likely on his sentence. Good. So anyway, sentencing is May 9th, 2014. He receives a total of 310 months in prison for being found guilty on two and all of those things.

That is about 26 years in jail. That's a little over 24. That's not bad for a 66-year-old man. That's pretty good. That's not bad math for a 36-year-old. I almost got that. The sentences

are 115 months, 91 months, 52 months, 52 months. It follows the recommendations of pre-sentencing investigation, the whole deal. Also, he orders these sentences to be served consecutively. Oh, boy. You're fucking in there. He's in there for a long, long time.

Yeah. He's also, if he ever does get out, he's ordered to serve 10 years of conditional release, pay $200 in fines, and register as a predatory sex offender. Predatory. Predatory. The district attorney asked that the judge double the sentence to 620 months because he had also found there was aggravating factors, including the cruelty and multiple forms of contact with these women and his other prior convictions for doing this twice fucking before. Jesus Christ.

The attorney said Mr. Zumhoff shows no remorse for his actions. If he finally, even if he finally admitted that they happened, this is an extreme sentence, but Mr. Zumhoff's actions can be described as nothing less than extreme. His attorney, Carter Grainer, said, quote, Mr. Zumhoff is very, very ashamed. It's not easy to come clean. He will be 80 years old when he gets out. That's punitive

enough. I don't think anything's punitive enough. Judge declines doubling the sentence. Zumhoff's, Jesus, Buck's attorney requested a stay in prison time so he could get probation and get treatment and counseling. Like, just rot till you die in there. Fuck you and your counseling.

We don't need to counsel him. He's good. We've given a shot. He's done. He's not changing. He's nearly 70 years old. June 4, 2014, Heather Hallberg, as she's going by now, is seeking financial assistance for travel, ongoing medical care and legal expenses and set up a GoFundMe account to do that. So that's not a terrible thing if you were half a decent human being back then when she needed the cash.

If anybody could use it, it's this poor girl. Yeah, no doubt. She just wanted a father and she instead got raped 1,800 times. 1,800 times. Buck is now currently serving his sentence. He's at the, it's at Rush City. I don't know, it's a Minnesota correctional facility at Rush City. Anticipated release date is 4-14-2031.

So good luck with that. He ain't going to make it. No. His offender ID is 146-235 if you want to write to him. And, hey, you want to call his caseworker? Say hi? Guy's name is Dustin Carlson. Area code 320-

358-0508. If you want to call that guy and say, make sure that dickhead never gets out of fucking jail, enjoy. Go do it. Keep working on that case. Yeah, yeah. He's just a complete mess. He's in there. There is no Buck Zumhoff memorabilia or anything.

It's all been wiped off the fucking internet. You can't find shit. Thank God, because nobody wants this. This is the most universally hated man in wrestling anyway. They're just like, fuck that guy. He fucked his daughter forever. For a long time. Wow.

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