Crime in Sports - #84 - From Undisputed To Just Plain Stupid - The Respectfulness of Riddick Bowe

Episode Date: September 12, 2017

This week, we say thank you to our listeners with an extra large, extra long, extra crazy episode, featuring a man who truly made it to the top of the world, only to swiftly chop it up into t...iny pieces, and flush it down the nearest toilet. He was an Olympian, and even the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, but whether it was ego, upbringing, or just plain old fashioned brain damage, it went severely off the rails in a violent, stupid, and most of all, hilarious way!Take home an Olympic medal, build a house the size of a small town, and head right to federal prison with Riddick "Big Daddy" Bowe!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at...patreon.com/crimeinsportsCheck out or site: truecrimecomedyteam.comAll web support by Web and Writer webandwriter.com or Facebook.com/webandwriterContact us on...twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/crimeinsports   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:26 Bullseye. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us today. Wow. This is good stuff. We have a crazy episode for you.
Starting point is 00:01:37 It's packed. Jam-packed with crime and stupidity and noodnickery as far as the eye can see. This will be a long one. It's going to be a fun one. Yeah. So we're going to get into that quick, but I just want to first thank everyone for this week's amazing outpouring of support. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You guys this week have really, really been incredible. The last week has been wild. Your donations have been off the charts, amazing. Your iTunes reviews, everything that you guys could possibly do for us, you've been doing for us this week. It's crazy. We're honestly, we don't even know what to do. We're like blown away by it.
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Starting point is 00:03:10 Such a pain in the ass. It can be a pain. But this has taken, God, I can't tell you. This takes days and days to do. So please. The walk from the car up to the studio, James' eyes aren't even open. No. Just so you know.
Starting point is 00:03:21 He's exhausted. I haven't slept and I'm coming down with something. Both my kids have been sick and now I've got it. And I'm just trying to power through this episode and lay down. No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all, Jimmy. We're fighting.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That's all it is. We're fighting through this. If you guys, like I said, the iTunes reviews, just give us five stars. You don't have to say anything special. Tell us your following instructions, following directions. We don't really care. It doesn't matter. It's not for our ego. It doesn't matter.
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Starting point is 00:04:57 I don't care. I'm going to dig in you and lay in you, and so is half our fucking listeners. So if you are offended by shit, take a hike now. We're not interested. Don't give a shit. Don't care. If you're normal and you just want to hear some funny stuff and some crazy crime and some good jokes and things like that,
Starting point is 00:05:13 well, then come on board and have some fun with us. Let's do this and don't be so damn sensitive. Let's do this. Let's get started. And if you like comedy like that, come to the Hollywood Improv October 7th at 8 p.m. James and I are opening for Dan Cummins of Time Suck Podcast. He's terrific. Which you should also be listening to, you crazy bastards.
Starting point is 00:05:30 The show is going to be a blast. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. I can't wait. We're going to have so much fun. We already have a couple people I know that I emailed with that are driving down from Sacramento all the way to L.A. They're driving six hours. Yeah, don't bring Coke. I won't do any.
Starting point is 00:05:43 But maybe Jimmy will. I'm going to Hollywood. I'm trying the Coke. But maybe Jimmy will. I'm going to Hollywood. I'm trying the Coke. You do it out. You do it out. I'm sure it's garbage. Let's try it. If I did Coke, everyone would hate me.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You don't want me on Coke. It's going to be bad road Coke. This is me sober. Imagine me on Coke. I did it like twice when I was a teenager, and I'm a mess. Me times 10. It's horrible. No one needs that.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Don't bring Coke. No. I need a downer, if anything. I'm just trying to enjoy myself. That's all. I'll get drunk. Whatever. Let's get started. Let's do this. We got a jam-packed episode. Let's get started with our guy today, Riddick Bowe. Oh, boy. Hey, everybody out there probably. Riddick Bowe got arrested?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Riddick Bowe had some problems, let's just say. One of the greatest names in boxing history. I've said it before. It sounds fucking amazing. It sounds like a boxer. It sounds like the noise that a video game character makes before their finishing move. Riddick Bowe. Yeah, it is. It's a badass name.
Starting point is 00:06:36 He sounds like it. He looks like it. He acts like it. This is one of our more famous guys. We try to find the people who fall through the cracks, but there are big famous guys that do crazy shit. And when they do, we're going to cover them too. We'll do that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 We try to spread them out so they're not so, I don't know, you hear about this stuff. But I like a guy like this, a famous guy who you just said he got arrested because you didn't know. No. But it's all out there. I know he's been arrested. I don't know for what. So this is going to be a fun one for me.
Starting point is 00:07:03 He's a total disaster. Let's get started. Riddick Lamont Bow. He is not a junior. That's why you had to fight. That middle name sucks. Oh, man. You big dummy.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Especially, he grew up, he's born on the date of birth, August 10th, 1967. So he's like a little kid in the 70s. Everyone's called, Lamont, you big dummy. Everybody's doing Safford and Son Adam. Oh, God, it must have been a nightmare. Brutal middle name. My name isn't Lamont. Go away.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's Reddit, God damn it. He finds a better nickname later, Big Daddy. That's his nickname. That's a good nickname for a boxer, especially a big guy like this. He's 6'5". He grows up to be 2'30". He's slow. He's a big heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:07:42 He's a big guy. He's born in New York City. He's a New York guy from Brooklyn. He's the second youngest of 13 children. Holy shit. 13 children. No dads to any of these children anywhere near the scenario either. It is 13 kids.
Starting point is 00:07:58 They're from tons of different dads. It is a mess in that household. The city that never sleeps and neither does mom's job. Wow. Good grief. Neither does anything. No. It's a mess in that household. The city that never sleeps and neither does mom's job. Wow. Good grief. Neither does anything. It's a disaster. There's plenty of shit to do in New York and she's just fucking everything.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Well, not in Brownsville, Brooklyn, where they're from. Brownsville is a shit area. That's where what's-his-fuck fell asleep, right? I'm sure. Exactly. Brownsville. Yes, exactly. It was.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Bernard King fell asleep in Brownsville trying to buy crack. Yeah. Or Coke, actually. It was. Let's be fair to Bernard King here. He was buying Coke, not crack. He was classy. Well, let's put him up a class.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Put him up a class here. Brownsville, though, I'm sure now you can just buy cupcakes and there's 30-year-old white ladies with double strollers walking down the street and everything's fine. Wasn't like that back then. It wasn't like that when I grew up in New York. It wasn't like that in any of that. There's lots of pop and pop cupcake shops. Not then.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Lots of mom and mom cupcake shops, too. Brownsville might be one of those that's lots of pop and pop cupcake cupcake shops not then lots of mom and mom cupcake shops too brownsville might be one of those that's hard to gentrify though that might be like east new york or one of those neighborhoods that are just like you can't like south bronx it's like that shit is it's just not taken sorry guys it's it's just too burned out we can't do anything half the buildings are just rubble so many corvettes with people asleep they're just passed out everywhere there's basketball players passed out in Corvettes all over the neighborhood. This is ridiculous. This place has gone to shit, I'll tell you something right now.
Starting point is 00:09:10 He grows up at 250 Lott Avenue in Brooklyn. We even have his home address. How about that? You can cruise on by there and see what cupcake shop that is today. Mike Tyson was from around the corner, actually. That's why I was like, he grew up there? That's crazy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Because he fought him, too, right him too no he never fought mike dyson they when beau was up uh tyson was in prison and getting out and so when then when he was beau was leaving that's when tyson was coming back yeah they just missed each other in waves keanu reeves he was the replacement he was the replacement exactly uh he said uh he and Mike went to junior high school together, which is interesting. That is fascinating. He said he was right behind Tyson in school. He's a little younger than Tyson. He said in the neighborhood, we never had a fight in the ring, he says.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And he said, quote, I never had no trouble for Mike. So that's good. He was a younger guy. I swore he fought him. That's crazy. Never fought him. Evander Holyfield, plenty as we'll get into here. They had some wars.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Harsh childhood. Very tough. Two-bedroom apartment uh 12 brothers and sisters and a mother in brownsville not terrific i can't imagine neighborhood really was bad when he was i mean it got bad 70s and 80s that was when things went really downhill he said it was just you know all crack dealers on the stairs of his building when he'd come out everybody was you know armed and it's a dangerous, dangerous area. His mother tried to spoil him as much as you can when you have 13 children.
Starting point is 00:10:29 With fucking what? God, that's what I mean. Baby, you get my toenail clippings this week. What do you give a kid? To spoil him, I think, would be like to give him some attention. She said, hi, Riddick, when she came home. She's like, I spoil him.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You know what I mean? I spoil him good. I say hello. I say hello to him. So it was one of those yeah his mother dorothy said quote he was kind of spoiled as a baby being next to youngest uh then she said when he started to get into boxing she tried to discourage him from it she said she wouldn't sign the release form to give him permission to box at school yeah so he had his
Starting point is 00:10:59 sister priscilla uh forged the signature when he was about 12 years old they had boxing at the school at the school yeah At the school, yeah. Did you ever have that at your school? No, no boxing program at my school at all. I can't imagine. You know what, too? It might not have even been at the school. She could have confused this with one of her other brood.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I mean, let's be honest. She's got a baker's dozen kids, for Christ's sake. That's true. She might have thought she was getting a glaze and she got a jelly. Who knows? She didn't know what she was doing. He actually had an uncle who was a boxer, an uncle named Jimmy Williams, who actually in October of 1943 in Elizabeth, New Jersey, was knocked out in the second round by Rocky
Starting point is 00:11:35 Graziano. Oh, that's cool. He was a very famous fighter, so that's interesting. So he has some lineage in boxing in his family. His mother didn't know who he fought. His mother said, I think he fought one of those Rocky guys. So after a little research, we found out exactly which one. I got kids I got to keep track of.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Fuck my cousins and uncles. Yeah, I got 13 kids. I don't know which one of them boxed in school or I don't know what happens where. Age 12 after his sister Priscilla forges the mother's signature, he meets a boxing trainer named Mo Sims. Mo Sims, older guy. Sounds like a boxing trainer. That's a great fucking name. Mo is a boxing trainer named Mo Sims. Okay. Mo Sims, older guy. Sounds like a boxing trainer.
Starting point is 00:12:05 That's a great fucking name. Mo is a boxing trainer name. Like Mo or, as we'll get into another guy with a great, his manager has a great boxing name too. His manager sounds like a boxing manager. They all sound like just one word. Yeah. Sims. Mo Sims.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Mo Sims. It's so quick. I got less Sims. I got Mo Sims. So he says, he says here, he just, Mo encouraged him to work on technique, stay out of trouble. He said every afternoon, Riddick said that every afternoon Mo would be
Starting point is 00:12:33 downstairs from his apartment to pick him up to go to the gym. Every afternoon he would go to this shit neighborhood and he'd pull up and pick Riddick up and take him to the gym. He says that Mo sometimes gave him money when he needed it, a little something here and there. He said he was like a big brother as well as a father.
Starting point is 00:12:48 He said so he loved Mo Sims. Mo Sims said he always liked to joke and play was his quote. He said, quote, it was real tough to get him to be serious in a funny sort of way. He was used to playing jokes to boost his confidence. He always felt it made him a better fighter to have some sort of, I don't know, practical joke, lightheartedness to it. That doesn't seem like the best fighter, you know, quality to have. I don't know how much you want to tell a joke in the ring and then try to punch a guy.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Knock, knock, motherfucker. Knock, knock, pal. Who's there? Right hand. Got you. So, yeah, he loved training, he said, as an amateur. He loved training. But as we'll find out, he gets a little out of that later on.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Gets a bit lazy. We have an in their own words on this whole thing here. Our first in their own words of many, because he never shuts the fuck up. In their own words, quote, coming from the ghetto, you would think I was poor, but I thought I was rich because I ate every night. There were a lot of murders and robberies. But because I had a structured schedule with boxing, I never really paid attention. My God.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I thought I was rich because I ate every night. That's a quote. That tells you where he's coming from. What the fuck? Right there. That says I am coming from a shithole. Like, kids are like, you eat every night? Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You get three fucking meals? Every night? You're talking about Sunday, too. Like, weekends? Not weekends, right? Not Wednesdays. Motherfuckers don't eat on Wednesdays. I haven't eaten on a Wednesday ever.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Like seven fucking days. Really? Wow. How the hell does that happen? So she tried to, you know, that was pampering him, I guess. It was feeding him at night. When you have 13 kids, I guess that is, you know, pampering. Riddick saw his father, a guy named Jake.
Starting point is 00:14:24 That was just what they called him his real name is different uh he says he estimates perhaps six times total during his childhood he had no interest in him apparently uh he meets uh judy a girl named judy yeah in uh when he's 14 years old in school uh well she goes to school with him she meets her he meets her on the street he's hanging out with her cousin. Sure. And sees her and says, I tried to talk to her. And now she's pregnant. Well, not yet.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Not yet. 14. Yeah. He also, he meets her. He's 14. He's getting big. Like we said, 6'5". He's a big guy and he's been practicing boxing here. He walks his mother to her job every night.
Starting point is 00:14:59 She works nights at a plastics factory, which sounds really, really good. Doesn't that sound fun? Jimmy, quit your job right now and get a night shift job at the plastics factory. What do you say? They have to burn that shit to mold it. You've got to be walking home smelling terrible. I would think you'd have 14 different kinds of cancer from just melting plastic all around you. All the chemicals.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And it's in your clothes. Maybe that's what they were eating, too. There you go. That's like Eddie Murphy in Raw. We ate the toys, Eddie. It said whatever it was on the side of it, so he probably thought he was eating spaghetti. That's probably right. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:15:35 It was really crunchy spaghetti. Play-Doh. He put the thing down, spaghetti came out, and she said, great, serve. Judy, his future girlfriend here, said, quote, he didn't appear to be like the other guys in the neighborhood, the drug dealers and fast talkers with girls all over the place. He was different. So she thinks he's different. We'll find out how different he is.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Tip, just a, you know what? Spoiler alert. He's not that different. Just a spoiler alert. Not drug dealing, but he's a dipshit just like everybody else. Yeah, he said, I guess he told her straight out that he was interested in her. She said she wasn't really into relationships at the time. She was 14 years old, 15 years old.
Starting point is 00:16:14 She said that he was a true friend. She said if she needed him, he was there. And if she didn't need him, he was still there because he was always hanging around. That's a bit creepy. That's a bit creepy. He'll use that a little. It'll grow. It evolves, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's got yeast in it. It's going to rise. It's going to rise. The creepiness rises. It definitely does. They don't start dating for about three years, actually, until she's about 17 or about 17, 18. He's about 16, 17.
Starting point is 00:16:43 She's a year older than him. They would sneak out nights together. His mother worked at the plastics factory at night, so she would come home. I don't know where all the other brothers and sisters. Well, he's the second youngest, so a lot of them are probably gone. But she would sneak into his apartment,
Starting point is 00:16:59 and he would go over to her house too. Her mother thought that he was gone at a certain time. Her mother said, quote, he was never at my house past 12 o'clock. This is Mildred Gordon, Judy's mother. At midnight, he was right out the door. And he says, quote, I was out the front door and right back in through the back. Of course.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And he says, quote, that's how Junior came about. Oh, boy. Here we go. There's our Junior. Oh, boy. Here we go. Here's our junior. But he says this, and he'll say, well, there's more fluff pieces on this guy than you can even imagine. And in all these fluff pieces, they describe how the only woman he's ever been with is his wife, and he has no interest in other women, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Well, later on he writes memoirs that detail in great, great detail his early sexual encounters from, you know, sleeping with a bunch of different high school teachers. What? And things like that. Yes. This is like the second boxer we've had that had this. I don't know. It's a thing with when it's really weird. Physically, he's mature.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Right. He's six foot five. You know what I mean? He's a big stockyically, he's mature. He's 6'5". You know what I mean? He's a big, stocky kid. He's athletic. I don't know what it is about these teachers seeing that. It's easy to confuse that. Oh, it's adult. It's a man.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's a man, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's what happens when dudes try to hit on 17-year-old girls because they're like, I see tits, so that must be an adult. I don't know if that's the same thing that happens. I don't know because whatever. But either way, he slept with a lot of women back then.
Starting point is 00:18:29 He says, to the best of my knowledge, it's possible I could have impregnated as many as 25 women. Holy shit. That's what he says. He says a family friend paid for at least six abortions for him back then. So he is just – you know what? I give him credit. He doesn't have 35 kids running all around the place. I'm actually happier that he did that.
Starting point is 00:18:51 It's just crazy that he's got a family friend somewhere that's just like. Family friend, like Moe Sims. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like silver-haired, middle-aged. Got you. All right. Well, not white men in this case, but still like a silver-haired, middle-aged man. There's somebody there that's like, I'm going to make money off this kid someday.
Starting point is 00:19:04 This kid's got a future. You don't need to have 13 kids by the time you're 18 years old. Those cost you like 700 grand by the time they're 18. Just give me a chunk of that. Yeah. How about we'll just- And I'll invest $200 in it right now. I don't know what a 1985 abortion costs, but it couldn't have been that much.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I can't imagine it was steep. Couldn't have been. Amateur record in boxing total is 104 and 18. Wow. So, I mean, he fights. That's a lot of fights. Yeah. That is 122 amateur fights.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And that's amateur. That's amateur. That's long before he gets into professional boxing. That's before you have Evander Holyfield pummeling your head and Andrew Gulotta pummeling your head and things like that. So, let's build the brain damage pyramid now. Yeah. Let's start building it now with 122.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Oh, it's there. That's the base level of the pyramid. That's the wide base is 122 amateur fights. He trains at the Bed-Stuy Boxing Association the whole time. He worked during this time, early 80s, as a sparring partner for Tyrell Biggs and also for Evander Holyfield as Evander Holyfield went on to go to the Olympics. He's sparring with monsters, too. Yeah, he's sparring with these guys, too.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And Holyfield, like we said, becomes Evander Holyfield. At the time, Riddick's just some kid, and Holyfield's on his way to the Olympics. No damage. I'm wearing headgear. I'm wearing headgear. Fuck you. Fuck it, yeah. That's a lot of blows to the head.
Starting point is 00:20:20 There's a brain in there floating in gray gunk that's getting bashed against head walls. There's also a face hole where a glove is pummeling you there. It's 1983, U.S. Junior Championships. He's actually, he loses, he's a middleweight then, so that's how much thinner he is back then at 16 years old. He loses in the second round to Adolfo Washington then. 1985, New York Golden Gloves light heavyweight champion he is in the novice division. He says, Mo Sims says that he remembers, he says, quote, I remember when he won the Golden Gloves championship and he was getting the award. He got his first suit.
Starting point is 00:20:57 He couldn't tie the tie. I helped him tie it. He said, I've never had anyone do that for me. I always tried to make him feel proud of himself. That's nice. So he tried to give him some sort of father figure type thing. I'll tie your tie. I'll pay for your abortions. You know, what dads do.
Starting point is 00:21:10 You know, right? Well, at least your dad, I'm sure, paid for at least half a dozen. I didn't meet my dad until I was 28. I could have used him. So he's only paid for like two, three abortions then. He hasn't had time for the rest of them. Okay, that's good. Could have used him. Could have used him back then. Nice, dad. I got two fucking kids. No thanks to you.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Thanks a lot. This would be really late term by now. Yeah, I think that's out of control, Jimmy. I think it's cats out of the bag on that one. So, in 1985, he is the light heavyweight champion of the Junior World Championships. This is in Bucharest, Romania. So, I mean, this is a kid from Brownsville. He's leaving the country to go fight.
Starting point is 00:21:45 13 brothers and sisters, happy because he eats at night. He's 18, just not quite 18 years old, and he's going all the way to Romania to fight. There's 12 other kids that are not doing that in his house. Right away, he has to go, well, shit, this is the thing to do. Like, anybody else in the neighborhood ever been to Romania? I doubt it. You know what I mean? Anyone else ever been to Romania? I doubt it. Anyone else ever been to Queens? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:22:08 A lot of people when you watch The Wire, another Wire reference some of the guys on The Wire have never left the neighborhood. They go to New York to pick up drugs and the guy's shocked because he's losing Baltimore radio stations. We talked about this. He's like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 there's different radio stations in different cities. Hilarious. Some people never leave shit. If you're really poor, you have no way to get out. One of our listeners on Twitter, I think it was Punky Baxter, she said that we should start a podcast of you explaining The Wire to you. Each episode. And you not seeing it.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And me going, what? That's crazy. Wow, that's crazy. I would like that. That'd be funny. James explains The Wire to Jimmy me going, what? That's crazy. Wow, that's crazy. I would like that. That'd be funny. James explains the wire to Jimmy. Whoa, really? Or you could just watch it.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah, I could do that. He defeats three people to get this title of the Junior World Championships. He defeats a Russian, a Romanian, and a Hungarian. So he's just kicking ass all over. Some of the toughest white people on the planet.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Some of the craziest white people going, and he beats them all. That's awesome. Not bad at all. Good for you, Riddick. 1986, New York Golden Gloves Light Heavyweight Champion, which, great, now he's moving up the weight charts. That's in the Open Division, so that's not the Novice Division. Not that anybody can do that. April 27th,th 1986 he still has not graduated high school yet so he's still in shit he's this is his senior year of high school 86 traveler yeah so junior in high school he was going to romania amazing which must have been wild to all the other kids there april 27th 1986 he marries judy you bet he did you know he got married he does uh he he has
Starting point is 00:23:42 to man uh you wonder why. We'll see. Well, let's talk about his own father here for a second. He said growing up as a kid, he always resented the fact that he didn't have a father. He said it turned into actually some hatred. He says a week before at this point, a week before he graduated high school, his father started coming around saying he would come to his graduation. He dicks, sir. His mother told him not to believe him, and he said he had his heart set on having him there and he never showed up never showed up he said after that i totally forgot all about him just didn't care anymore yeah it takes that one heartbreaking moment like i didn't meet my dad till i was 28
Starting point is 00:24:18 i said that and i met him at my wedding day and the day that that happened him him saying that he was coming, I was kind of like that. Like, sure. All right, dude. Whatever. And then he showed up. I was like, oh, fuck. This is an ordeal now. I got to talk to this fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Yeah, that's terrible. Jesus. I'd be like, you know what? Let's just, what's your email address? Let's just, I don't want to get into this. Could you come back tomorrow? Yeah, I don't want to do this while I have a suit on. It's just no good.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You know, that's not going to work. I'm going to be half loaded in an hour. You don't want to hear the shit I'm about to say. Yeah, with uncomfortable shoes on. It's just no good. Yeah, that's not going to work. I'm going to be half loaded in an hour. You don't want to hear the shit I'm about to say. Yeah, with uncomfortable shoes on. I don't want to. Yeah, shoes that somebody else wore yesterday. Yeah, I'm not going to be happy at all. You can put that shit in the bank.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So June of 86, Beau becomes only the second child in his family out of 13 kids to graduate from high school. Second. Second out of 13. Two out of 13 is a shit ratio, lady. And he was near the end. Yeah. That's terrible. He's the second youngest.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So they all had an opportunity before him, and only one of them took it. Only one of 11, and then him, and then who knows what the baby did. Yeah, Dorothy and that father who's never around and all the other fathers from around. You could line them up like it would look like the cast of The Simpsons when they gather them all in some ridiculous town setting. That's your fault, assholes. Way to go, Dix. Nice job. Now, July 86, a month later, his son is born.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Oh, my God. And, of course, he names him Riddick Jr. Of course he names him Riddick Jr. It's a great goddamn name. Minus that middle name, it's a great name. He's a Lamont also. But it is. It's a good name for him.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Good for him. He's got a son. Here he is, Riddick Jr. He goes on to 1987. Next year, in the New York Golden Gloves, super heavyweight, he wins the championship. There, he's the champ there in the open division. 1987, he goes to the Pan American Games. It's
Starting point is 00:26:07 in Indianapolis, Indiana, which is kind of a disappointment if you're going to the Pan American Games. You're like, where are we going? South America? We're going, nope, Indianapolis. Gee, great. What's next? Cedar Rapids next year? Can we really step it up? They really gave that name of that town hell. They were like, what can we call this?
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's a metropolis. Oh, I got it. In Indiana. We're Indiana, and it's a metropolis. Let's do it. We will mash these two ugly fucking words together. Yes, and make it sound Greek with a polis on it. Thanks. Horrible.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Thanks a lot. So he's fighting in Indianapolis, this terribly named city. He loses to Jorge Luis Gonzalez on points. Remember that name, because he's going to come up again later here. Gonzalez also beat Lennox Lewis in that same tournament. Same tournament. Same tournament. This guy beat Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis back to back, which is pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He beat two future heavyweight champions back to back. Where's that fucking guy now? We'll find out. Don't worry. We'll find out. Jesus, that guy sounds like a fucking legend. I want to talk to him. You will know.
Starting point is 00:27:06 1988, he wins New York Golden Gloves Super Heavyweight Division Champion in the Open Division. So he's kicking ass. He's on his way. Spring of 1988, everything is going great. And then his sister, Brenda, is killed by a mugger. Oh, Jesus. Which is brutal here. In New York?
Starting point is 00:27:22 In New York. We have an in their own words on exactly what went down with that. In their own words, quote, she was shopping with the kids and somebody knew she had her welfare check. She was stabbed several times. She didn't die right there. She was in the hospital for about a week. Then she died.
Starting point is 00:27:36 She was my favorite sister. I named my first daughter Brenda in her memory. It was really hard. That is fucked up. That's brutal. For her welfare check. And she was shopping with her kids. With her kids.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah, got stabbed up in front of her kids for a welfare check after shopping. That's like the worst story ever. And then lingered for a week in pain and then died. Bled out. That is horrible. Unbelievable. That's horrible. Whatever was hit was leaking for a week.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's horrible. That's just awful, man. I could see him being a little upset about that. Yeah. But he has no time to mourn and be down. He's got a fight to prep for. Well, he's got the 1988 Olympics to prep for. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:14 The 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul, South Korea. We've gone over these. We've had a couple people at these Olympics. We had James Waithe. Yeah. We've had a few people in the 88 Olympics here. They've piled up with scumbags. With Angelos Goussis. Yeah. A lot of had a few people in the 88 Olympics here. They've piled up with scumbags.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, a lot of all fighters have gone, all the fighters here. This is in Seoul, South Korea like we said. This was the Olympics, just a quick recap because we've done it a couple times. This is the one with Florence Griffith Joyner and Bette Johnson and Greg Louganis you know, aides in up the pool and all that kind of stuff here. I get that if chlorine kills it, it's not a big
Starting point is 00:28:43 deal, but there was still, he was still AIDS in the pool. He was still diving into that and bringing it with him. He was, which is fine. You can swim in a pool with people with AIDS all day long. Go ahead. But at the time, people freaked the fuck out about it. That's what I mean. People lost their minds.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And a few years later, magic got it, and then the whole fucking world stopped. And then they actually went, oh, okay, how do we get this again? What's the deal? Yeah, before that, it was just that movie they made you watch in school about the kid who got the transfusion. The Ryan White story. Outside of that, that's all we knew. So, Bo in this series here, he beats a guy named Biko Badawamangu from Austria. What?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Right? That's what I said. I'm like, this guy's got to be from somewhere in Africa. Nope, Austria. He defeated, that was a knockout round two. He defeated Peter Hrivnak. There's not enough vowels in there, from Czechoslovakia. That was a TKO in the first round.
Starting point is 00:29:43 He defeats Alex. Jesus, can he fight anybody named Smith at this point? Alex Miro Shinenko of the Soviet Union beats him on points. And then ICP named their album after him. What the fuck was that? The great Miro Shinenko. So then he fights in the final. It is Riddick Bowe versus Lennox Lewis.
Starting point is 00:30:06 If you don't know who Lennox Lewis is, he is a British. He is the scariest looking man with the softest sounding voice ever. He's got this very proper British accent. He sounds so white. He just sounds so proper British. And unthreatening. And he's 6'5", 250 with dreadlocks. And you're like, holy shit, this guy's huge.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Sounds like a guy 5'6". And he kicks ass. Yeah. He's an ass kicker, too. He's a big, tough son of a bitch. Sounds like a guy 5'6", with a comb over and then some fucking tweed suit. It really does, man. So this is the final.
Starting point is 00:30:40 So this is like future superstars in the final at the Olympics, which is really cool, actually. Lewis ends up winning the fight by TKO in round two. And Lewis was getting the better of him. I watched the fight. You could see it before the ref calls it in round two. And Lewis starts getting, he lands a combination of right, left that really you can see Bo get rocked. It's from the bird's eye view, the shot. But you could still see him get rocked.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And he was shaking up. Body or face? Face. Really? bow get rocked. It's from the bird's eye view, the shot, but you could still see him get rocked. He was shaken up. Body or face? Face. Double shot, right, left. We have it in their own words about the loss to Lennox Lewis. He does not think that the refs should have stopped the fight. Afterwards, they interview him and he's like,
Starting point is 00:31:19 you know, I think it's garbage that they stopped the fight. They shouldn't have stopped the fight. How about that? In their own words, quote, I was shaken up pretty much, but I didn't think it was enough for him to stop it because I've seen guys practically killed in the ring. The coaches told me to be cool, so I had to leave it at that. I've seen guys killed in the ring. Seen guys killed in there?
Starting point is 00:31:37 I mean, they could have just let me die. What the fuck, man? That's the problem. That's what they're trying to avoid, guys practically being killed in the ring. Was Lennox Lewis 6'6 or 6'8? I think he was 6'5 or 6'6. He's about the same size. We'll see this throughout his career.
Starting point is 00:31:51 He has a hard time fighting bigger fighters. Bigger fighters give him trouble, like height-wise. You get a guy that's 6'5, it's his size. It gives him difficulty. Generally with everybody. It's hard for me to fight somebody taller, too. But a lot of times you'll get shorter like tyson preferred a tall opponent because that's what he was used to
Starting point is 00:32:08 fight and grow you know everybody's taller than him plus he's beating the shit out of their body anyway whether they're tall or not well this i feel like when you're six five and a young boxer there's not a lot of other boxers that are six five so most of the guys you're fighting and sparring with are going to be six foot six one something, something like that. So you're not used to that. Your whole training thing is screwed up here. So he fights Lennox Lewis and it doesn't go well here. But good news for him, though. Things are getting better.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That year, 1988, his brother, Henry, dies of AIDS. So lots of great things happening for him. Sister stabbed in the parking lot. Brenda's got a baby. I just keep picturing Tupac's song with Brenda because her kids are in the thing and Brenda's got a baby. It's the whole thing. So anyway, it's a problem here.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So Henry dies of AIDS. So he had a hard time with that because he said Henry was one of his idols and it was like his older brother. He was into a lot of shit though, Henry. Was there drug use? There was drugs. There was pimping. He was into the street life. He was into the lot of shit, though, Henry. Was it drug use? There was drugs. There was pimping. He could have been doing anything.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He was into the street life. He was into the AIDS-y life. Between the needles and the women, anything could have happened. He's lucky that all he got was AIDS. I'm sure he could have got something worse. He probably had Hep C, too. The lifestyle he was living, probably. Also, he has a daughter, and that year, a daughter is born, Radicia.
Starting point is 00:33:21 What? R-I-D-D-I-C-I-A. Radicia. What a dick. That's what he said. He's trying to name his daughters after him, too. At least he didn't just name her Riddick Lamont Jr. 2. Fucking foreman.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You know what I mean? Exactly. It could have been that. Yeah. So now he's got an Olympic silver medal under his belt. Yeah. He's ready to go. Early 1989, he begins training with a legendary trainer named Eddie Futch.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You bet. Eddie has trained 21 world champs. What? Yeah, 21 world champs, lots of people. What is he doing? He started, well, he's dead now, but he started working with Joe Frazier. He's rotting. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Rotting in the ground, you know, being a skeleton. This guy, Futch, started working with Joe Frazier in 1966 as an assistant trainer to Frazier's trainer. And Futch was in Frazier's corner when he fought Muhammad Ali in 1971. Wow. And he said that he was the one that told Frazier that Frazier's shorter. And he said to be even a smaller target, to bob and weave. And he told him that when Ali throws that uppercut, he said every time you see his hand come down, he's going to throw an uppercut. When he drops his right hand, you throw your left hook.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And so he had this strategy worked out. You do this and you do that. And he beat Muhammad Ali, for Christ's sake. You're going to break his body down. Yeah, he ended up knocking Ali in the 15th round. Yeah, so he's a good trainer, basically. Futch said that Bo had more potential than any boxer he had ever trained okay uh he said quote he was just a big vulnerable kid everybody thought he was a
Starting point is 00:34:49 man but he had the mental maturity of someone much younger he just called him stupid he called him he said he's 21 and he acted 16 it's just the way he was he was just goofy i think that was the the the rumor about him anyway was that he he was there was something slow going on. Well, yeah, we'll get into exactly the slowness and his MRIs and everything else a little later. We have a lot here. March 6, 1989, his pro boxing debut at the Lawler Events Center in Reno, where dreams come true, where we all want to do our first anything big. The Jerry the King Lawler Center. You got it, baby.
Starting point is 00:35:22 He's fighting Lionel Butler here. And Butler is a 32-17-1 career fighter. That's pretty good. He's actually a linker on Wikipedia, which is like, wow. He's only 5'11". So they're giving him somebody that he can just tee off on with target practice. This bow wins by TKO in round two at 1.55, a minute 55 in the second round. It's only a four-round fight scheduled for.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And they're stretching him at 5'11", by the way. Yeah, he's probably 5'10". Yeah, there's nobody going, I'm 5'11". Everybody that's 5'11 goes, I'm 6'0". No one's 5'11 1⁄2". They're like, I'm 5'11". They just run down. No, they're like, yeah, I'm 6'6", 6'1", 6'6", 6 1⁄2".
Starting point is 00:35:59 You know how it is. At 5'11", they're definitely saying he's 6'0". So that motherfucker's 5'9", or 5'10", at best. Absolutely. At best. So that was March 6'9 or 5'10 at best. Absolutely. At best. So that was March 6th, 89. Let's go through his 1989 quickly here. That's March 6th.
Starting point is 00:36:12 That's his pro debut. That is fight one. He's 1-0. April 14th, 1989, like a month later, Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. Oh, shit. So that's a step up from the Waller Events Center. You bet. He fights Tracy Thomas, who's a 6-10 career fighter,
Starting point is 00:36:26 but he's a southpaw, so that gives trouble. He's coming off five straight wins also. It doesn't matter. Bowe wins by TKO in round three at 157. That's 2-0. May 9th, 89, he's fighting at the Steel Pier in Atlantic City. He's pushing aside the diving horse to
Starting point is 00:36:41 fight in front of a crowd here. He fights Garing, quote, Freight Train Lane is his name. Half the fighters in America are named Freight Train. Too many. Lane is a journeyman fighter. 22, 39, and 2 career. Wow. This is a guy that fights a lot, loses, goes the distance.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Gives the shit kicked out of him. But he can hang in and go the distance type of guy. And he does here. It's a four round fight. It goes the distance. Bo wins by unanimous decision in the fourth round and a journey, like a veteran journeyman. Like that's a guy that a rookie fighter is going to probably have trouble with
Starting point is 00:37:14 maybe because he's going to know little tricks and little ways to, he's going to climb, he's going to clinch, he's going to annoy that sort of thing here. That's three and oh, so that's, that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:23 two months he's been fighting. He's already got three fights under his belt. July 2, 1989 at the Cumberland County Crown Coliseum in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Wow. My God. I'll tell you right now, that's the most storied venue in America. Absolutely. If you're not from this country, the Cumberland Crown County Coliseum in Fayetteville trumps
Starting point is 00:37:44 Madison Square Garden every time. He fights Antonio Whiteside. This is Whiteside's third pro fight. All right. He is a career 0-12 fighter. Wow. 0-12. Didn't work out for Antonio.
Starting point is 00:37:57 After 10, you've got to walk the fuck away. Yeah, I think you've got to go, I am double-digit losses. When he got to a dozen, he's like, all right, fuck it. This is embarrassing now. This is embarrassing. This number actually has another term for it. I'm out. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, I'm up to a term number. I can't do this now. So if we get to a score, I'm really fucked. I can't have this. So we got to stick with 12. So no shocker what happens here. As we know, Riddick wins by TKO in the first round at minute 19. First round.
Starting point is 00:38:27 He just pummels him. It took him a minute to kill this guy. He's 4-0 now. Two weeks later, less than two weeks later, July 15, 89, he's fighting again at the Broadway by the Bay Theater in Atlantic City, fights Lorenzo Canatti, who's a 7-10-1 career fighter. This guy actually lost to Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson's sixth fight. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:48 So if you've ever seen that compilation on YouTube of, like, Tyson's first 20 fights, where they're, like, whole fights and they take the whole video's, like, eight minutes long, him knocking people out, this guy's on the list. All right. Bo here wins in the second round, 5-0 he goes to here. So he is just going along. This is so unhealthy. It's so unhealthy.
Starting point is 00:39:08 The way to hear is September. September 3rd, 1989, Pensacola, Florida. He fights Lee Moore. This is Moore's second fight. In his first fight, he lost to Tommy Morrison. Oh, wow. I believe it's episode 18. Tommy Morrison, who got AIDS and then denied having AIDS, said, I do not have AIDS,
Starting point is 00:39:26 and then died of AIDS. Tommy Morrison here. This Lee Moore is 0-10 career. That's his career record. What the fuck? 0-10. That's a guy I can respect. He got to 10, and he was like, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:39:37 It's embarrassing. I'm obviously not good at this. Jesus. I mean, one or two. How do you get to number 11? One or two, lack of experience, fine. But by 10, it's like, I don't think I'm good at this. Jesus. How do you get to number 11? One or two, lack of experience, fine. But by 10, it's like, I don't think I'm good at this. By 7, you've got to be going, this was a really
Starting point is 00:39:49 bad choice. 8, 9, you're like, look, one more, and I'll quit. I swear to you. I could see by the third fight, you'd be like, okay, I lost to Tommy Morrison, who's a big up-and-comer, and I lost to an Olympic silver medalist, who's a big up-and-comer. Understandable. Maybe I'm just not as good as them yet.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Give me time. I'll be as good as them. But then eight fights later, he's like, okay, I'm not as good as anybody. Never mind. Everybody's better than me. I'm not even going to start any fights in bars because I'm going to get beat up. I'm just done here. This is a first-round knockout.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I'm afraid one of those ten will be the guy I fucking pick on. It could happen. They could be number 11 to beat me up. Bo wins by first round. Knockout. He's 6-0. That's September 3rd. September 15th, he's fighting again at Gleason's Arena in New York City, fighting Anthony Hayes,
Starting point is 00:40:34 who is 0-8 career. So they just set up a couple tomato cans. They're like, just knock these down real quick. Bowe wins by knockout in round one at 1-21. So a minute 20 into the fight. He's 7-0. Four days later. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:40:48 September 19th, 89, he's fighting again. This is a problem. This is crazy. Yeah, I can't believe this is allowed. Veterans Coliseum in Jacksonville, Florida. He fights Earl Lewis. He was called boy on the way to that. Oh, you know he was.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And it pissed him off. And he's like, I'm going to kick Earl Lewis' ass for that shit, even though he had nothing to do with it. And he is also black. He is 8-9-1 career, Earl Lewis. So nobody's setting the world on fire that he's fighting. Big shocker. Knockout for Riddick Bowe in round one at a minute and 26.
Starting point is 00:41:17 He's making quick work of these people anyway. That's the good news. He's fought three times in September, and he's barely fought enough time for one whole round. Yeah. So that's not bad, I guess. He didn't even sweat yet. Yeah. He's fought three times in September, and he's barely fought enough time for one whole round. Yeah. So that's not bad, I guess. He didn't even sweat yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Oh, by the way, this was Earl Lewis's last fight. He gave up here. 8-9-1. He's like, all right, I'm not going to get to the 10th loss. I'm going to quit while I'm ahead here. Ahead. In quotes. Fuck these double-digit losers.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Oh, man. October 19th, 89, Trump plows in Atlantic City. Yeah. He fights a guy named Mike Acey. A-C-E-Y. I don't know how you'd say that. There's about 12 ways to say that, and none of them are right. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:41:51 This guy is like a middle-aged white guy with a mustache. Perfect. He is the least boxing-looking person I've ever seen in my life. He looks like when you're a teenager, if you went to pick a girl up, that's her dad. He looks like a state trooper. Does his belly have wrinkles on it like that guy? He's got this mustache that's so, he looks like a state trooper. He looks like just a cop who pulls you over.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It's so strange. Did you date my daughter? It's the weirdest thing. He's a 13-11-1 career fighter. This fight lasts not quite one round. So he fought 226, he lasts. Two minutes, 26 seconds. Riddick knocks him out, bringing his record to 9-0. So he fought 226. He lasts two minutes, 26 seconds. Riddick knocks him out, bringing his record to 9-0.
Starting point is 00:42:28 This is all first year. We're still in the first year. It's unbelievable. November 4th, 89, Trump Plaza. He fights Freight Train Lane again, Garing Lane. I don't know why he's fighting him again. Probably because he's 5'10", and he just wants to punch down. Or Garing's just been opening his fucking mouth.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Maybe, yeah. He's like, I'll whoop his ass. He got lucky. He got lucky, I'll whoop his ass. He got lucky. He got lucky, that kid. Yeah. Or there was a fight. Maybe somebody backed out, and this guy jumped in. That happens a lot, too.
Starting point is 00:42:51 He fights. Bo wins in round four again. So it takes four rounds to beat this Garing Lane, no matter what. It's a TKO with a minute 50 left, so at least he stops him. That's his 10th fight. So that's 10 fights in, what, eight months? Yeah, two months. In like seven weeks.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah. Two weeks later, on the 18th of November, he's fighting at Coolidge High School in Washington, D.C. This is when you could actually make a living boxing and, like, not be a big name. Not be famous. Right. You can string so many fights together, win them, and take, I don't know, whatever he's taking home. Probably 10 grand. He's a pro.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah, I don't know about that at Coolidge High School. Not in a high school. At Trump Tower, you can take some money home, I'm sure. Something, yeah. You're getting paid something. Who knows, too? I mean, he has it a little easier than if you're another guy, because he's an Olympic silver medalist.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So he's got a team that believes in him, that knows what he can do, that are putting him in setting up fights as promoters that think they can make money on him in the future. Silver-haired, middle-aged white men are lining up to the back of the room for this guy. Don Askew here is 10-12-1. TKO in the first round for Riddick. He's 11-0, so he's just knocking people left and right. November 28th, 10 days later, he's fighting again. Alumni Arena in Buffalo versus Art Card, who's a 10-11 career fighter.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Bowe wins by knockout in the third round. He goes to 12-0. Finally here, December 14, 1989, St. Joseph, Missouri. He fights Charles White Lightning Woolard. That does not bode well. I'm sorry. No. He is a 6-6-1 career fighter, which is about right for what I would imagine just by his shitty lame name.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Bowe wins by TKO in round two. The guy lasted all round. I'll give him credit for that. Two minutes, 46 seconds in. 13 and 0 is Riddick Bowe, and that's his first year as a pro. Not first calendar year, just his first from March to December. That's 1989 for him. 13 goddamn fights.
Starting point is 00:44:42 That's ridiculous. It's absolutely insane is what it is. Like, what the fuck? That's a nutty pace that you can't keep up. And by the way, white lightning is a bit redundant because isn't lightning fucking white? I don't know. At least he didn't call himself grease lightning. I'd rather him call himself moonshine because that's what that is.
Starting point is 00:45:01 He wanted everyone to know he's white, I feel like. That's what it is. It's like, I'm a white guy. Everybody just make sure that you I'm a white guy. Everybody just make sure that you bet on the black guy. Exactly. In case you're confused which guy that is. The guy not named White Lightning.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That's the guy you bet on. Go ahead and do that. That's not going to work here. Jesus, how stupid. His next two fights, he's in early 1990. They're both against non-linkers. He wins them with second and third round TKOs. Nobody here. April 14th, 1990, he's got a big fight. He's them with second and third round TKOs. Nobody here.
Starting point is 00:45:27 April 14th, 1990, he's got a big fight. He's at the Mirage in Vegas. I love it. So now we're in Vegas. Now this is some boxing. That feels like real boxing. That feels like real boxing. He's fighting an eight-round fight instead of a six-rounder or a four-rounder.
Starting point is 00:45:42 He fights Eddie Gonzalez, who is a 26-19-1 career boxer here. Like I said, unanimous decision here in eight rounds. So he goes the distance in Vegas. And another thing Riddick will show over the course of his career, he's not one of these guys where if he doesn't knock you out in the first three rounds, he's in trouble.
Starting point is 00:45:56 He is strong for 12 rounds. He's strong. He's just as much a pain in the ass for 12 rounds as he is for two. He goes the distance. He wins decisions. And there's something to be said about that for a boxer who does that, rounds he's strong he's just as much a pain in the ass for 12 rounds as he is for two he goes the distance he wins decisions and there's something to be said about that for a boxer who does that who can go the distance and win decisions yeah it's called a winner but it's a perseverance thing you're not giving up you're staying ahead on points and you're okay with that
Starting point is 00:46:17 there's a certain type of boxer that does that really really well and some guys just can't go that distance because they have to try to, they can't do it. Or it's something in his head that just, he doesn't know how to quit. That's true too. Because there's problems in there. Well, that too. He just, I still got to punch things.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And also too, the Olympic fighters too, they're used to fighting on point systems. So he's the type of guy who can be like, I'll just keep pointing this guy till the end and that's what he can do. So 1990, that's after, this is when he's starting to get a little bit of cash here. He starts, we'll get into what he does here in a second. May 8th, 1990, he gets a first-round knockout versus Jose Contreras in Atlantic City, bringing him to 17-0. His daughter Brenda is born.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So he has, that's actually his second daughter, so he lied about that, he didn't name his first daughter Brenda, he named his second daughter Radikia or Radicia after himself, then he gave Brenda her due. Soon as I knock this one out and I mean not knock, you get what I mean as soon as we have this one and I get my
Starting point is 00:47:20 comeuppance, because I need two I gotta get both of these named after me and then everybody I'll start giving out. Everybody else that deserves them. Because you know I'm going to have a bunch. Because I have brain damage. Clearly I need to have as much kids as possible. I grew up in a tiny house with way too many people in it.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I should do the same thing. I should do it, except in a big house with way too many people. And that's what he does. He is the sole source of income for everyone in his entire family, not just his wife and kids. For everybody in the neighborhood, basically. He moves everyone in the family to Fort Washington, Maryland. What? It's a suburb of Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:47:54 That is where his manager, Rock Newman, as we'll get into. That's a fucking great name. Rock Newman is a character here. He's down there there and this guy encourages Bo to move down to the D.C. area and so he moves his whole family to be near the manager. Judy, his wife, Riddick's wife
Starting point is 00:48:14 said that Riddick bought houses. Basically he bought a whole street full of houses for his family is what he did. For his mother. So dumb. For his mother, Judy's mother, three of his sisters, and a niece. Spread those people out. All houses on the same street.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Get them the fuck away from each other. Nope, it's a Mormon compound, guys. That's what it is. We're Brownsville Mormons. Let's do this. I've heard of this TV show that's about this kind of area of the country, and it's really fucked up on that TV show. Have you heard of The Wire? Have you heard of that show?
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yes, I believe it's The Wire. Yes, it's a suburb, but you can get there quick. He is two minutes from being robbed from Walmart, I'm telling you right now. That's right. So he does this. Not only does he give them houses, he also gives them stipends. So he gives them an allowance of $1,000 a month. This is after he pays for all their house shit, though.
Starting point is 00:49:02 He pays for all their stuff, gives them $1,000 a month. Each? Each. So they're off welfare. That's like 90 people. So he's helping clear the welfare rolls. I'll give him that anyway. What a guy. But also Judy would say later on that Beau, quote, punishes them by withholding money from them whenever they do something he doesn't like. Of course. So he's using
Starting point is 00:49:20 his money as control. Yeah. And he does this his whole life and we'll get into a bunch of other things here. He made himself the government. That's what he did. He did., and we'll get into a bunch of other things here. He made himself the government. That's what he did. He did. So I'm taking you off welfare. He took the responsibility. I'll put you, these are, this is the projects now. I'll imprison you.
Starting point is 00:49:31 We just move them to this cul-de-sac. And you stay here, and I give you money, and if you don't, yeah, if you piss me off, you're not getting your meal through the slot. Sorry. If you piss me off, you're not getting your government cheese. That's right. Jesus. Judy said that Bo had bought a Rolex watch for his mother and it was stolen.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So Bo lined all the relatives up who lived on the street and brought in the whole brood and told them he would deduct the cost of the watch from their stipends unless it was returned. Oh, boy. So this is what I mean. Did it reappear? Never. We don't know the fate of the Rolex. But, you know, he's at this point like 23 years old, and he's
Starting point is 00:50:06 playing like- And he's telling everybody, give mama's watch back or nobody gets shit. That's what I mean. He's in that kind of control. He's 23. It's so strange. That's awesome. So, so strange, man.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I wish I could have done this to my family, though. Yeah, don't we all? That would be great. Everybody, line up, idiots. Yeah, you're going to do what I say or you're not getting shit. That's every kid's dream. You know what I mean? That would be fucking great.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Every kid's dream. It's ridiculous. Maya, you make spaghetti or else. Or else. Because you can't cook shit else. My mom was a terrible cook. No, she was? The worst.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And my mom makes like two things well. On Friday nights, she always took whatever was left over from the other nights and mixed that shit together. And that was our dinner Friday night. What the hell it was horrible it sounds terrible to me it'd have way too many lima beans because everybody hated those but so there was a bunch of those left it was basically lima bean stew whatever the fuck she wanted that is terrible i'm italian so i had good food so i can't relate to that shit oh my god my mom's german and cooks like and cooks like it. Oh, yeah. My grandmother whipped up good things and stuff like that. That German's everything. Could have dealt with your grandma.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, you would have liked to. She did yell at you and beat you and chase you around and things. Didn't say racist shit. She was a not. She wasn't the racist one. She wasn't the one that wouldn't take cold cuts from a black guy like the other one. I don't know if I've told you guys about that, but I have a grandmother. I have a grandmother who's 91 years old, 92 years old now.
Starting point is 00:51:27 She's currently in a home because she's got just teeming with dementia at this point. So when I tell you how she is, don't worry. She can't vote or she has no say in the world or anything like that. She's out of her mind. She is. She can't vote. So this is good she's this is true though
Starting point is 00:51:51 this is sad but she's the most racist person ever ever there's never been a more racist racist to the point where we were all just like nobody took after her we were all just like this is crazy like how did she get this way some people kill somebody and they'll just shoot them and they're dead and then somebody
Starting point is 00:52:11 somebody will like just disembowel and take a head off and you're like jesus like they're both deaths and they don't matter but this is like why are you doing she would not accept cold cuts lunch meat from a black man at the deli at the supermarket. Wouldn't accept cold cuts. That's so great. She told us a story about it. She goes, ah, I look back there, and there he is, and she goes, I looked at myself, I said, I don't need cold cuts that bad.
Starting point is 00:52:36 That was her thing. And we're all like, what is wrong with you? We were recording this, obviously, because it's hilarious, but we're like, what the hell is wrong with this woman? Why did she do that? That's so good. Thank God she can't vote. That's all I have to say, because, because it's hilarious. But we're like, what the hell is wrong with this woman? Why did she do that? Thank God she can't vote. That's all I have to say, because she is nuts, man. Well, don't call cuts that bad.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Wow, man. You are out there, boy. She's my favorite. Well, but she could cook, too. She could cook. She could cook. She's got shitty fucking opinions, but she can out-cook my mom. Yeah, she was never known as your sweet old grandma, though. It was like,'s like yeah grandma man's out of her damn mind she's crazy i love her though
Starting point is 00:53:09 she is nuts boy you want to get her going you can just walk up and go hey man those dominicans god damn it start slapping the table yeah i swear to god you don't even have to say anything just go dominicans and nick and i she'll just go by those bastards and she'll tell you for an hour and a half what's wrong with them shit that dominicans have never done have nothing to do with dominicans just things that she decides uh so good back to riddick bow here luckily he's not trying to sell cold cuts to my grandmother uh he's boxing in december of 1990 he uh knocks out a guy named tony morrison not to not Tommy Morrison, in two minutes and 20 seconds in Kansas City, bringing his record to 21-0. So not too shabby, I have to say.
Starting point is 00:53:50 That's pretty solid. Yeah, because the three fights before that were all kind of half-assed linkers. He won all three fights in impressive fashion the first couple rounds. So he's 21-0 now in December of 1990. Now his next fight's when he starts getting into some tougher winning some tougher longer fights even too. March 2nd, 91 at the Broadway by the Bay Theater in Atlantic City. He fights Tyrell Biggs who he used to be a sparring
Starting point is 00:54:12 partner with if you remember. Biggs is a 30 and 10 career fighter and he's 6'5". Now we got a good match. This is a test. He's a good fighter with size and I feel like this was his trainers going alright let's see if he's really got the goods. Let's put him in.
Starting point is 00:54:27 He's familiar with this guy at least. At least a little bit. Exactly. And the other guy's familiar with him, but when he was younger. So it's a different thing. Bell wins by TKO in round eight. Holy shit. He gets him a stoppage in round eight at 217.
Starting point is 00:54:40 So that's awesome. That's a big step for him. I'm sure his management was like, okay, that's something. He's 22-0 right now. April 20, 1991, which is not too fast, a month and a half. After an eight-round fight, that is not enough time to recover. That's not even six weeks. That's six weeks.
Starting point is 00:54:58 That is not enough time to recover from eight rounds of boxing against a really good fighter who hit him a lot, too. So he's fighting against in caesar's palace uh here uh he fights tony tubs who as you might have heard of too tony tubs real good fighter former champ he's 47 and 10 career coming into this fight he only had two losses and they were to tim witherspoon who's a former champ, and Mike Tyson. Good fuck. So he's a tough son of a bitch, Tubbs. Bowe wins. It goes all 10 rounds. Oh, Jesus. And Bowe wins a unanimous decision.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Wow. So this is what I mean. He's going distances. But in six weeks, he's fought 18 rounds against top-tier heavyweights. His brain has got to be a little bit mushy. And his kidneys and liver. Everything's got to be so sore. Well, for everyone else's concern, we'll worry more about his brain because we'll see what happens with that later.
Starting point is 00:55:49 We find out from all these brain damage sports episodes. Fucking brain damage, man. It's there. It's such a big factor. It's so prevalent. Such a big factor. Even listening to Time Suck with Dan Cummins, really good podcast. He did one on Richard Kuklinski, the Iceman.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And I never really put it together until you hear it over an hour and 40 minutes. How many blows to the head he had as a kid. So many stories of being knocked unconscious by his parents. And I'm like, yeah, that's brain damage. That's what causes you to kill shitloads of people. I love Richard Kuklinski. Not that I love him. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:23 It's a very fascinating story. It's fascinating as shit. And I didn't even know that his dad killed his brother. I hadlinski. Not that I love him. It's interesting. It's a very fascinating story. It's fascinating as shit. And I didn't even know that his dad killed his brother. I had no idea. Oh, you didn't know. That's interesting. Yeah. I knew that.
Starting point is 00:56:29 But that's what I mean. And he blows to the head. Beat him to death. Yeah. So these blows to the head, the whole time I'm thinking just from crime and sports, I'm literally texting Dan going, fucking concussions, man. Jesus Christ. It's a problem.
Starting point is 00:56:40 It's a problem here. So his next two fights are against non-linkers. He needs a couple of warm-up fights after that here. He probably still feels like he did 300 sit-ups yesterday. He probably still does. I'll bet he doesn't even feel them. His brain is such mush that he doesn't understand that his belly's fucked up. It gets so much worse here, too.
Starting point is 00:56:57 He fights Rodolfo Martin and Philip Brown in Vegas and Atlantic City. Two early knockouts just to get him up to 25-0. August 9, 1991 at the convention hall in Atlantic City. Two early knockouts just to get him up to 25-0. Okay. August 9th, 1991 at the Convention Hall in Atlantic City. He fights Bruce the Atlantic City Express Selden. What the fuck? He's a good fighter, actually. I think he held the belt. Local boy?
Starting point is 00:57:14 I think so, yeah. I think he held the belt for a little while in the 90s here. He's 40-8 career. Coming in, he only had one loss. Wow. And that was to Oliver McCall, who was a really good fighter, too. Bo knocks him out bad. He kicks his ass.
Starting point is 00:57:27 One minute, 48 seconds in round one. Holy shit. Knockouts. This is a good fighter and a future champ. 26-0 for Bowe. October 29th, 1991, here's some craziness now. Walter E. Washington Convention Center in Washington, D.C. He fights Elijah Tillery, who sounds like some sort of civil war.
Starting point is 00:57:47 He sounds like he did a lot in the Underground Railroad. You know what I mean? It was Harriet Tubman and Elijah Tillery would take the slaves to her house. That's what it sounds like. He fights Elijah Tillery, who's a good fighter, 23-7 record. And this is for the vacant WBC heavyweight title. So this is a title fight. Bowe dominates the first round.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Absolutely whoops his ass. Drops Tillery in the first round. Knocked him down in the first round. Knocks him down in the first round. After the round ended, this is nuts here. This is when it gets wacky. Tillery comes out of his corner and walks toward Bo and starts taunting him. What?
Starting point is 00:58:21 Bo responds by punching Tillery. Yeah. He hits him, which seems fair. They both have gloves on. They're in the ring. Tillery then starts throwing kicks at Bo, like trying to kick him in the balls and in his legs and stuff like that. Bo then just unleashes, just starts working him with punches.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Just absolutely working him over as Tillery's kind of laying over the ropes here. Not even during the fight. This is after the first round. In the like the bell rang corners now we're gonna have a legit fight rather than going to the corner tillery walked over to talk shit to bow for some reason instead you guys because i don't understand why he was talking shit they're gonna fight they have eight more rounds they're 12 it's a championship fight you have 11 more rounds you can fight this guy vaseline first yeah don't. Come back out next round and be like, I'm going to kick your ass now. Keep your heat, buddy. Keep yourself
Starting point is 00:59:07 all angry. This is what I half expected Conor McGregor to do. Yeah, exactly. No shit. Just to give up after the first round and be like, fuck it. I'm kicking him in the dick. So now here comes Bo's trainer, Rock Newman, grabs Tillery from behind on the ring apron and pulls him over
Starting point is 00:59:23 the ropes. Oh, my God. As Bo's continuing. He's Mean Gene. Yeah, yeah. And Riddick's continuing to throw punches at him, too. Holy shit. And he's got this guy pulling him out from the side. This is some WWE shit.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I love this. Jimmy the Mouth of the South hard hit him with a megaphone and pulled him over the top. And the Hockey Talk Man's going to give him the shaker out of the roll. This is tough shit here. He's got a two-by-four coming down the sideline. This is great. So, yeah. Somehow, you see Tillery somersault over the ropes. He goes over.
Starting point is 00:59:49 The whole thing, security comes in. Order's restored. This whole thing gets going. Tillery and Bo are in the ring still jabbering and trying to fight each other. It turns out Tillery ends up being disqualified for the kicking. I mean, that makes sense. The announcers, though, were very surprised by this because they saw the rest of it and they're like, huh?
Starting point is 01:00:12 I guess what ended up happening here, the referee, a guy named Carl Milligan, he stepped between the two fighters to separate them and stepped forward. As he did so, he didn't see any of the shit behind him that was going on. So he missed half of it. All he saw was the kicking. And he was like, I guess I'm disqualifying him for that. He didn't see the manager pull the guy over the ropes and the whole deal. He didn't see the honky tonk man and the megaphone guy come hit him.
Starting point is 01:00:33 No, he didn't see him hit him with the guitar. And yeah, it didn't happen. So Tillery is DQ'd for kicking here. This is not the last time Bo's going to deal with kicking, by the way. Jesus. We'll get into that later on. He frustrates the fuck out of people. Yeah, wait until you see what Andrew Gulotta did.
Starting point is 01:00:49 He made Andrew Gulotta lose his fucking mind later on. So now he's heavyweight champ, or one of the heavyweight champs. He's got the WBC title. He's 27-0. Amazing. Top of the world, man. This is great shit right here. December 13th, 1991, Convention Hall, Atlantic City.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Guess who? Oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you. This is kind of important. After this fight with Tillery, the first one with the DQ, there was a huge riot and three people ended up being shot outside. What? For fighting. There was a huge riot with the crowd. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:01:17 And it spilled out into the streets and three people were shot. Boxing. A gentleman's sport. Boxing. A gentleman's. Yeah, it's the sport of kings. That's what boxing's known for. It's the sweet science.
Starting point is 01:01:27 It really is. The sweet science of kicking and pulling over ropes and shooting people in the streets. It's the gentleman's sport to watch, whereas the MMA is like if you wear Axe body spray. Axe body spray bros. If you wear your sunglasses on top of your hat. Or on the back of your fucking neck. Or on the back of your neck. What are you doing, dickhead?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Stop wearing white sunglasses, by the way. You look like an asshole. You do. White Oakleys, that's over. You're done. Or on the back of your fucking neck. Or on the back of your neck. What are you doing, dickhead? Stop wearing white sunglasses, by the way. You look like an asshole. You do. White Oakleys, that's over. You're done. Or Arnettes or whatever. We're done with that. And the white fucking snow camo.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Eat shit. Just get some fucking black sunglasses, dickhead. That's true. I like that. All right. Now that we've pissed off a bunch of people who are probably aggressive and also have brain damage. And that's what it is, too.
Starting point is 01:02:02 That's good. It's guys that hit girls. That's who watch MMA. That's not a broad blanket, is it? I like that. I love it because, you know what I mean, I'll paint with a broad brush. I don't give a fuck. Broad strokes, baby.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I just found the biggest one we've got. That's pretty good. I pulled the biggest one out of the toolbox. That's the broadest stroke ever. I'm not sure of the... Guys that hit chicks, watch that chick. All of them. Here you go.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Apparently they do. So there you go. So December 13th. December 13th, like I said, 1991, he fights Tillery again. Okay. A rematch. After a fucking riot. After a riot.
Starting point is 01:02:35 They said, let's bring those two fine gentlemen back. I remember when there was three people fucking shot. Let's do that again. Let's run that one again. Move it up to Atlantic City though here. Let me play that song again. No. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:44 So he fights him here. Bo wins by TKO in round four, so he's 28-0. His next two fights are in April and May of 92 against non-linkers. They're total tune-up fights. A guy named Conroy Nelson
Starting point is 01:02:57 of Canada. He sounds white and slow. And Everett Martin he fights. Again. He knocks out both of these guys pretty quickly.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Knocks out Nelson in a minute 16. TKO's Martin. One of those guys is cross-eyed, I guarantee it. You know he is. You know he fights. Again. He knocks out both of these guys pretty quickly. Knocks out Nelson in a minute 16. TKO's Martin. One of those guys is cross-eyed. I guarantee it. You know he is. You know he is. Bo is 30-0, though, now at this point.
Starting point is 01:03:12 30-0 and has a portion of the heavyweight title. Yeah. Life is good. July 18th, 92, with the Mirage in Vegas. He fights Pierre Cotter, who's a 39-2 record coming into the fight. Oh, shit. Bo wins by TKO in round seven. So that's great.
Starting point is 01:03:28 31-0. Give him a chance at the world. At the biggest one. At this point, 30-0? 30-0. And guess what? He's about to get that. Here's this huge fight.
Starting point is 01:03:36 November 13, 1992 at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada. You betcha. Versus Evander Holyfield. Fuck. Now, everybody out there, whether you're a boxing fan or not, you should probably know who Evander Holyfield is. He was super famous. He was on Mike Tyson, Bit His Ear.
Starting point is 01:03:51 He was on Burger King commercials and everything else. He was in Hot Shots. He was in everything. Yeah, he was really prominent in the 90s, Evander Holyfield. He has the most masculine face ever. He does. He looks chiseled. Just a man.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Like it's made from stone. He's coming in. He's the W looks chiseled. Just a man. Like it's made from stone. Yeah. Coming in, he's the WBA and IBF heavyweight champs, and Bo is the WBC, so this is to unify the titles. This is to be the undisputed world heavyweight champion. No fucking arguments. Which is crazy. No arguments. Bo is 28-0, or
Starting point is 01:04:19 Holyfield's 28-0 coming into the fight. Bo's fought more. And Bo's 31-0. Wow. So, yeah, well, they pumped him out there so much in that first year. So, I mean, someone's going to lose. I remember this was an amazing night here, this fight. It's a complete war. Amazing fight, back and forth.
Starting point is 01:04:38 These two both show they're skilled and have heart and they're badasses. Holyfield goes down in the 11th, actually. Holy shit. Round 10 is voted later on as the round of the year by Ring Magazine. Really? It's a war. All-out war. If you want to see a good fight, look this up on YouTube because it's two big guys that
Starting point is 01:04:56 can fight, have speed and skill, and are beating the shit out of each other. Holyfield's so much fun to watch. I always found him boring as fuck to watch. Really? Oh, I loved him. He's my least favorite heavyweight of all time. He's my favorite. All I ever wanted to see was Holyfield get so much fun to watch. I always found him boring as fuck to watch. He's my least favorite heavyweight of all time. He's my favorite. All I ever wanted to see was Holyfield get knocked out.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I fucking hated him. Boring, slow, fucking just plodding. But the ones that do connect are fucking incredible. He doesn't knock people out. That's true. He's a point fighter. As a heavyweight, I don't want to see a point fighter. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I want to see a goddamn knockout. I loved him. He's a clincher. He's a fucking headbutter. He's a point fighter. As a heavyweight, I don't want to see a point fighter. I don't know. I want to see a goddamn knockout. I loved him. He's a clincher. He's a fucking headbutter. He's a cheesy fucker. Maybe that's why Tyson bit him. I cannot. That is why Tyson bit him.
Starting point is 01:05:31 He said, I got tired of getting fucking headbutted. And if you watch the fight, he's constantly getting headbutted. When Tyson bit his ear, I went, good. Fucking now punched him once he bit his ear. Can I even mention, it's pretty surprising he doesn't have really bad cauliflower ear because he is always rubbing. He's always rubbing his head. He's always doing that, which is good for him.
Starting point is 01:05:47 That's why he talks like he fucking fell out of a 20-story window nowadays because he's constantly bashing his head into people like an asshole. That's what he gets. So it's a war. Holyfield goes down in the 11th. If you know anything about Holyfield, he does not go down at all. You can just keep punching him. He looks like he's out on his feet, but he's not because he always looks like that because he's punch drunk. It looked over.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I love you insulting my favorite guy. I hate Evander Holyfield. He was my least favorite fighter growing up. I hated him. I wanted to see anyone knock him out. So I was happy with this fight here. Holyfield goes down the 11th. It looked over, but Holyfield, goddammit, he was a great fighter though.
Starting point is 01:06:24 He had a lot of heart. He makes a big comeback and almost, you know, he looks like he was going to win in the 11th. It looked over, but Holyfield, goddammit, he was a great fighter, though. He had a lot of heart. He makes a big comeback. And almost, you know, he looks like he was going to win in the 12th round. It was crazy. Fight goes all 12 rounds. Riddick wins by unanimous decision. It is Holyfield's first loss. He's the first guy to knock him off his feet.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Also here, this makes Bowe the undisputed champion of the world. The world. 32-0, undisputed champion of the world. The world. 32-0, undisputed champ, king of everything. Holy shit. This was the fight where it was like, well, he's not going to beat Holyfield. And he beat Holyfield. And in 92, that means gold fucking everything. Oh, gold everything.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Good God. Carl Canai. Yeah. Bright colors. Cross colors and Carl Canai. Giant orange pants. Just picture that. That's what we're going on there.
Starting point is 01:07:09 He is Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Year in 1992, Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year. He's on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. No kidding. Which he appears four more times between then and 95. All with Jay? Late night. Yeah, with that part. He just missed Johnny Carson.
Starting point is 01:07:23 He's on Late Night with David Letterman that year before he moves back. He is grand marshal of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. You cannot get any more fucking mainstream than this. That's proof right there that if you want a really successful son, you just got to fucking keep fucking. Keep making them. Keep doing it. Keep making them. Eventually one wins.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Number two. Lucky 12. 12 lucky dozen that's incredible it's november 30th 92 there is a giant fluff piece in sports illustrated i mean they're making him out to be the greatest person on the face of the earth it's called the name of the piece is family man and it's all about him and his him and his wife and their kids and they love each other and they met when they're 14 and they've never strayed from one another and everything's perfect except for those teachers and shit you know what what a regular guy he is he says you know he doesn't have an entourage and they during the thing he's like yeah you do it's your whole fucking family a lot of them yeah they're all your whole street he's pumping gas for his je do. It's your whole fucking family. You have a lot of them. Yeah, they're all your whole street.
Starting point is 01:08:25 He's pumping gas for his Jeep. And he says, you know, can you believe this? The heavyweight champion of the world pumping his own gas. Driving a Jeep. Isn't this amazing? Driving a Jeep Cherokee. Right. He says that in this thing, it says that Bose said he's never taken a drink, never done a drug, never fooled around with any other women.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Yeah. Unbelievable. He's just such a great guy. Salt of the earth from fucking Brooklyn. Not only that, he's financially secure for the rest of his life, even if he never fights again, they're saying. His earnings have been channeled into a variety of conservative investments, and his children already have trust funds to pay for college, which is precisely where Riddick and Judy plan to head this winter when they will both enroll at Howard University.
Starting point is 01:09:07 He's going to go to college, loves his wife, never had a drink. He's got everything set up, financially secure forever. He is perfect. He's the one. He is perfect. He says here, oh, by the way, they're building a house here. They're also building a house. It's got a big RB on the Iron Gate.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Big Riddick Bow, which is a terrible sign whenever anybody does that, as we know from Jason Williams. Indoor swimming pool, boxing ring, 25-seat movie theater, and a 10-car garage. So he's financially set, and he's spent so much. It doesn't even matter. He said it's okay. His financial advisor,
Starting point is 01:09:42 Jeff Fried, who I guarantee he was silver silver haired, said, quote, what Riddick always says is that he wants to take care of his responsibilities first, and then he can have some fun with his money. He says the idea is just to give each of his five children $1 million when they graduate. He said he might even buy him a house too. But if they don't show the determination to get to college, he's going to keep his money in his pocket, he says. Can I just say this now? Grace. Holy shit, this is as grace as you get.
Starting point is 01:10:08 That's it. You're the Grand Marshal of Thanksgiving Day Parade, undisputed world champion, and they say you're the nicest guy on earth. Holy fuck, Grace. Good for him. You can't get any grace. Now things get a little wacky from here.
Starting point is 01:10:19 This is when he loses his mind. This is when the brain damage starts really setting in. Before he fought Holyfield, there was a deal in place where it was kind of a mini tournament. He'd fight Holyfield, and then Lennox Lewis would fight Donovan Razor Ruddock, one of my favorite names for a boxer.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Maybe the best one. I love Razor Ruddock, too. He was a bad son of a bitch. Tyson kicked his ass a couple of times, but he always hung in there. That's why I thought Riddick Bowe fought him. Razor Ruddock, yeah, that makes sense here. So the thing that they're going to do is whoever wins these fights, it's like a little tournament. They're going to fight, they're going to fight,
Starting point is 01:10:51 and then so it should be Lennox Lewis who beat Ruddick. There's a bracket involved. Exactly. It should be Lewis and Bowe. That's who everybody wants to see. It's the Olympic rematch. It's the whole deal. But after this, they start making funny little things like Bo's manager
Starting point is 01:11:06 Rock Newman. Here's his proposal to Lennox Lewis. The $32 million purse HBO is offering, which is funny because you know what McGregor and Mayweather just made, and this was a huge fight and only $32 million should be good. They
Starting point is 01:11:21 recommend a 90-10 split in Bo's favor. Of course, Lewis said it was absurd because he's-10 split in Bo's favor. Of course, Lewis said it was absurd because he's British. He said it's absurd. And then he didn't do it. He called it absurd, which I thought was great. Lewis's manager, Frank Bologna, said rejected another offer of just $2 million for Lewis. So $30 million, you get two, which is even less than 90-10.
Starting point is 01:11:42 It's even worse. Tell you what, you won't take 10%. How about we give you 3%? How does that sound? Wow. So the WBC, one of the belts he has. You can either have 10% or you can have 3 million. How's that? It was 2 million.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Yeah, what do you think? Look, you can get 10% or 2 million. Your choice. Your choice. Either one. What? What kind of shit is this? So you don't want 10%, which is more, so I choice. Your choice. Either one. What? What kind of shit is this? No.
Starting point is 01:12:05 So you don't want 10%, which is more, so I'll give you less. How's that? How's that negotiation? That's so dumb. WBC said that they have until December 13th to reach an agreement or else the fight would not happen and they would strip Bo of the title for not facing Lewis. So December 14, 1992, Bo holds a huge press conference where he dumps his WBC belt into a garbage can. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:12:32 He says, if Lewis wants the belt, he has to get it out of the garbage, then we will call him garbage picker. That's his quote. Garbage picker. Garbage picker. Wait, he's a bully now? Yeah, so the WBC declared Lennox Lewis the new heavyweight champion. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And we have an in their own words on this from Riddick. In their own words, quote, the WBC is wrong and I will not be intimidated by them. I am the heavyweight champion of the world and I withdraw my recognition of the WBC. For as long as I am champion, I will not recognize or defend this dishonest belt. Wow. Wow, somebody wrote that shit for him. But we find out later on that Boxing Insider magazine confirmed that it was actually only a toy belt that had been dumped in the trash
Starting point is 01:13:10 and that those people actually retrieved it after the cameras were turned off. But he made his point. So he pulled like a wrestling move. They did that in wrestling, dropping things. I feel like that's where he got that from because they did that back in the day. That was a great idea, guys. I'm going to fucking yank that. You know, that from because they did that back in the day. That was a great idea, guys. I'm going to yank that. You know, Vince McMahon's kind of a smart guy.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Right. So we have an in their own words. This is on Lennox Lewis. They're like, why don't you think Lewis is worthy of fighting you? And God damn it. In their own words, quote, you've been around boxing, right? Well, you never see him with a woman, do you? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I think the heavyweight champ should be the man of men. I could lewis now i could if i could get lewis now i can retire happy i want him not just for the title but for the olympic gold so he's saying he's gay and i'll still kick his ass even though i won't fight him wow that's hysterical uh beau would later his accent he's clearly gay obviously look at him he's you don't see his brood of children following him around, do you? So clearly gay. You don't have six kids by the time you're 25? Must be gay. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Meanwhile, Lennox is like the sweetest man on earth. Yeah, he's fine. He's great. Gay or not, he's fine. So Bo later on would blame this on Rock Newman, this whole stunt. It wasn't my idea. It was Rock Newman. Rock told me to call him a queer.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I don't know nothing. February 6, 1993, Matt is in the Square Garden. He fights Michael Doakes, who is a possible future crime and sports episode. Okay. He is 53-2 coming into the fight. 53. Wins. Three losses.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Two draws coming into the fight. Bo wins by TKO in about 2 minutes, 19 seconds in round one. 33-0 at this point here. Huge deal. February 23rd, 1993. Bo travels with a bunch of people. He charters a flight, pays $94,000 to charter a flight. This is actually a good thing to go to Mogadishu in Somalia to try to give them things.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Wow. Yeah, to help. He said it was to lift morale for the troops there. And he also, you know, he posed with kids and soldiers and all that kind of thing. And also they brought in $1.8 million worth of medicine to be distributed on that flight from a charity organization. So like one bottle of penicillin. I believe that would be there. Yeah, that's what it would be worth.
Starting point is 01:15:24 March 1st, 1993, he appears on an episode of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. What the shit? That's as mainstream as you get here. It's season three. The episode's called You Bet Your Life. Will and Carlton stop in a cafe casino on the way to visit a potential college for Will to attend. While there, Carlton becomes obsessed with hitting the jackpot on a slot machine in the
Starting point is 01:15:44 back with absolutely no success. When the next person to use the machine wins, Carlton freaks out and accidentally rips the man's shirt. That man just happens to be Riddick Bowe in a guest appearance. Unfortunately for Will, he was the one who had to take the knockout blow instead of Carlton. That's a description. Will Smith
Starting point is 01:15:59 getting knocked out by Riddick Bowe. That brings us to May 22, 1993. He's fighting in RFK Stadium in D.C. Wow. Stadium, yeah. He's fighting Jesse Ferguson, who's a 26 and 18 career. RFK, that's where the fucking Redskins play. Where they used to play.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They shut it down. Now they've got the Nationals then played there for a while. I think they have a stadium now. Bowe wins in round two, 17 seconds in. Quick knockout here, 34-0. June 1993, Bray Mercer, who I think is an Olympic gold medalist or silver medalist and a pretty famous heavyweight here, he had a fight with Jesse Ferguson,
Starting point is 01:16:35 where also, too, Bowe had one and so did Mercer, where it was a warm-up fight for him and he was supposed to beat Mercer and Mercer was supposed to beat Ferguson and then face Bowe. But during the fight, during a clinch, Mercer offers Ferguson $100,000 to take a dive. What? In the middle of the fight? In the middle of the fight during a clinch. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:16:54 So Ferguson ends up winning the fight. He says no and ends up knocking Mercer out. Mercer, in June of 1993, is arrested for this, for trying to fix a fight. So that's pretty crazy. So not only did he not get a shot at the title, he lost and got arrested. And blew it. What an idiot. So late 1993.
Starting point is 01:17:11 That's a great story. That's crazy, right? How did I never know that? I never knew it either until now. And I followed boxing. Late 93. He fought Holmes a few times, didn't he? Who, Mercer?
Starting point is 01:17:21 I feel like it was Mercer. I think he fought Larry Holmes, actually. Yeah. Late 93, Riddick Bowe boxing video game comes out, so you've got a video game in there after you. That's hot shit. Rematch against Holyfield, November 6, 93, in Caesars Palace
Starting point is 01:17:33 in Vegas. Rematch. Bowe is overweight as shit. I love it. He entered training camp, this isn't the fight, but training camp at 266 pounds, which is just a fat fuck for him. He This isn't the fight, but training camp at 266 pounds, which is just a fat fuck for him. He weighed, at the fight, he weighed 246 pounds, which is 11 pounds heavier than his first fight with Holyfield, which is a bad sign here. During this fight, do we know the parachute guy that drops in on sporting events?
Starting point is 01:17:59 James Fan Man Miller. He drops into the fight at Open Air Arena. He drops in landing. He hits the ropes by Bo It's an open air arena. He drops in landing. He hits the ropes by Bo's corner. This I remember. This was crazy. It's a crazy scene. You can look it up on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:18:11 The whole thing turns into a mess. There's a half hour delay. He wanted to land right in the middle. Yeah, and he missed it. He landed on the fucking rope. He's lucky to pull an Owen Hart. He's lucky to pull an Owen Hart and land on the ring post and kill himself. Fall from the sky.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Impale himself. Yeah, exactly. It kill himself. Oh, yeah, yeah. He'll fall from the sky. Impale himself. Yeah, exactly. It's worse. So, yeah, huge delay, half-hour delay. The whole thing was a goddamn mess. They all just kind of watched him float in because you're watching the fight, and then they all just stop. And you're like, why is everybody stopping? And then this guy falls to the ring.
Starting point is 01:18:39 What the fuck is this? Oh, okay. I see what happened here. The whole thing turns into a huge mess here. Oh, OK. I see what happened here. The whole thing turns into a huge mess here. The Miller, the guy who jumps out, jumps down with the parachute, is grabbed by a bunch of members of Bo's team.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Because he falls over there. And Bo's wife at the time was pregnant and sitting right there. Yeah. And so he fell and was like falling onto her. She freaked out and fainted. So there was a huge crowd. And the whole thing, they had to take her by a gurney to the ambulance. And there was a huge crowd and the whole thing. They had to take her by a gurney to the ambulance. And then they had to go back in the fight.
Starting point is 01:19:09 So now Bo's got to go in and fight after they just took his pregnant wife away. Pregnant wife just fainted. And there's a half hour delay so the whole thing's whacked out and weird. It's a fucking mess. So horrible. Fight goes the distance. It's a super close fight. One of those fights you could watch and go, I don't fucking know who won.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You could ask 10 people and everybody's got a different opinion on what happened. And also, too, you don't remember the first part because you had a half hour break. Exactly. Holyfield wins this fight by majority decisions. It's not even a unanimous. This brings Bo to 34 and 1. This is his only career loss. Wow.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Only career loss. Right after this, they move into a $7 million, 32,000 square foot mansion that we talked about. That's ridiculous. That's too much. That is too much. You do not need 32,000 square feet at all. Stop it. What a life of excess, though.
Starting point is 01:19:57 It is. It's super excess. And it's in the 90s, so it's just decorated horribly. Oh, terrible. Zebra shit everywhere. It's awful. Awful stuff. So many yellow and pink and green things.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Son Julius is born at this point also. That's the one she was pregnant with. Now, we have an in their own words from this period. I think it's important going forward. In their own words, quote, I just want to be loved. Through this whole ordeal, all the trials and tribulations, I guess in all honesty, I just want everybody to love me. If I didn't feel that way, I wouldn't go through all this. You don't want people to dislike you because you're successful.
Starting point is 01:20:31 You don't want them to dislike you because you've worked hard and made something of yourself. I don't think that's fair. No, we dislike you because you're going to blow it, you dipshit. He's definitely going to blow it here. He fights. Next fight is against Buster Mathis Jr. Smaller guy, six foot, but he's tough. He's 14 and 0 coming in, Mathis. Mathis
Starting point is 01:20:47 frustrates Bo a lot through the whole thing. He's a bobbing, weaving guy. He's a smaller guy. He frustrates Bo. What ends up happening is he knocks Mathis down, and while he's down, Bo pops him again and knocks him out. And it's ruled an accidental blow by Arthur
Starting point is 01:21:03 Mercanti Sr., the referee, and the bout is ruled a no contest. So there's nobody wins. It's just he's still 34-1. But that was kind of a big deal because everyone thought he should have probably been disqualified for that one. December 3rd, 94. He's got a fight against Larry Donald the next day. And there's a press conference, and this is a crazy press conference here. They're standing at the dais, both of them.
Starting point is 01:21:24 They're up there. Donald. Donald's in a suit, suit and tie is a crazy press conference here. They're standing at the dais, both of them. They're up there. Donald. Donald's in a suit, suit and tie, looking like he works at a bank. And Bo's got, like, a T-shirt on, looking like he just came from the gym, and they're standing there. Donald looks like he's got his hands behind his back, like, looking as professional. Like, he looks like he's in the military and someone put a suit on him, and he's just very, like, proper. And they're standing there talking, kind of smiling, and, you know, taking pictures. And to him you just see donald kind of he just kind of shrugs his shoulders and says
Starting point is 01:21:48 something real mild like doesn't look like he said yeah fuck you he was just like oh i don't know whatever and you see bo turn to him and say something another sentence and donald turns like he doesn't like confuse he just looks at him confused like he doesn't understand are we gonna fight right now still got his hands behind his back, Donald. Riddick unleashes a fucking left and right combination. Wow. So fast. Left hook and a right hand on Donald, just unsuspecting, standing there in a suit for no reason.
Starting point is 01:22:13 It's crazy. It's crazy to watch. It's on YouTube. I want to know what Donald said. Looks like he said nothing. Literally looks like he said, would you say? And then the guy knocked him and then he started punching him. He probably said something like, yeah, your mama's a whore. Honestly, looked like he didn't hear him. It's like he had a delay and he said, would you say? And then the guy knocked him and then he started punching him. He probably said something like, yeah, your mama's a whore. It honestly looked like he didn't hear him. It's like he had like a delay and he looked up like, huh?
Starting point is 01:22:30 Like, what happened? Like, did I miss something? And then the guy just looks like Riddick wanted to make, you know, he wanted some attention for the fight. It's at Caesar's Palace. Donald is 16-0 coming in. So he's a big contender. This fight goes all 12. So Donald's a tough son of a bitch here.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Bowe wins by unanimous decision. He's also later sued in civil court for punching him in the press conference. He fights a guy named Herbie Hyde in Vegas, who is 26-0 coming in. Who's another guy that we're probably going to have to talk about. Yeah, possibly here. But he wins this two minutes and 25 seconds of round six. So Bo's 36-1. June 17, 1995, he fights Jorge Luis Gonzalez.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Remember him? He's the guy who beat Luis and him in the Pan American Games. He's a Cuban here. He's 31-8 professionally. This guy was 220-13 as an amateur. Jesus. Holy shit. This is wild here.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Pre-fight shit's insane. Gonzalez is coming in with a crazy haircut, dressing all in black, looking like a lunatic, and declaring a desire to, quote, eat Bo's heart and calling himself a lion and calling Bo a hyena, saying he's going to eat his heart. So Mike Tyson wasn't even original. He was not original. I'm going to eat your children. This guy is the original lunatic. You don't need to say I'm going to eat your heart. He could have just said even original. He was not original. This guy is the original lunatic. You don't need to say I'm going to eat your heart. He could have just said
Starting point is 01:23:47 I beat you once. That's plenty of shit talking. Didn't I beat you once, motherfucker? Who are you? Didn't I take your gold medal from you? That's all you need to say. That's it. Right there. Bo wins by TKO in round six. 37-1. So much for that heart you're going to eat. During this time, while training for that fight,
Starting point is 01:24:03 there's an incident that his wife brings up later. While disciplining their oldest son, obviously Riddick Jr., who's eight at this time, Bo gets mad and rips a cord, the power cord from the television set in the hotel. In a hotel? It's not even his own TV. In a hotel. He's ripping cords out. Oh, this is terrible.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Duck tapes his son's hands and feet and whips him with a cord. What the fuck? That's fucking torture. That's not even like I lost my mind a little bit and spanked him. You tied him up and torturously beat him with a cord. That's bananas. That's fucking next level bananas and not nearly the craziest thing he's going to do, by the way, here. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:24:46 Yeah. November 4th, 95 at Caesar's Palace is the third and final fight with Holyfield finally. This is another battle, an absolute battle. Bo is actually knocked down during the fight, which he keeps fighting on. This is the only knockout for Evander Holyfield. The fight is stopped in the eighth round, 58 seconds in TKO. Bo was just
Starting point is 01:25:09 owning him. Holyfield had to have been out on his feet. He was just taking shot after shot after shot after shot and standing there and taking it. It was disturbing to watch and you know why he talks like he does now. He really does. That didn't help any. Now, January 18th,th 1996 he stripped
Starting point is 01:25:26 of the wbo title he won it's some shit title he won a couple fights ago uh because he fights andrew galata instead of their number one contender andrew galata here this fight's crazy july 11th 1996 fights alandrew andrew galata who's 28 and0 coming in. Bowe weighs 243 pounds at this fight. Again, too big. He's sluggish. Gulotta's kicking his ass. He really is. But Gulotta doesn't really like to follow the rules all the time because he keeps hitting Bowe low.
Starting point is 01:25:58 He keeps punching him in the dick over and over again. He's repeatedly warned. And finally, the referee starts deducting points from Gulotta for hitting him in the dick. That's when you've hit a lot of dick. Finally in the seventh round, early in the round here, he takes a third point from Gulotta. He's lost three
Starting point is 01:26:15 points after being warned a whole bunch. This is like five nut shots. He warns Gulotta, if you do it again, the fight's over. Gulotta continues to just attack his nutsack. He'll do, like, shot to the face, shot to the face, and it's not even like, oh, that was a little below the belt. It's like a big uppercut to the nut bag.
Starting point is 01:26:36 It's the ridiculous... Like, he's got it in for his ball bag. It's the weirdest thing you've ever seen in your life. Like, he's a vendetta for it. Are we sure that Riddick's wife didn't hire him? Jesus, maybe he's trying to stop him from having more fucking kids here. No more children. Just keep slugging him in the balls.
Starting point is 01:26:50 It's ridiculous. I don't know what his attraction to Bo's nutsack is, and it's only Bo's. He just needs to hit Bo in the dick. The referee disqualifies him after this, and that's when shit goes off the rails. Really? There's a fucking riot. Really? An absolute riot
Starting point is 01:27:05 the ring just fills up with people both the teams are going nuts smell his gloves it smells like that guy's ball sweat like that's why it's over galata even galata got hit you can see it in the video too uh one of bo's people just beaten galata with a radio and over the head and he required he needed 11 stitches like a two-way like a walkie-talkie for when they're coordinating or come out he's just holding it by the antenna just beating oh my god you could see that and it's insane people are going fucking nuts it was wild I mean you uh Gulotta takes a swing at the Rock Newman guy because he's in the middle of everything Lou Duva the famous famous old boxing trainer, little tiny
Starting point is 01:27:45 white haired guy. You see him on the ground. They're pulling him out of the ring, putting him on a fucking stretcher. There's riots. There's fights all over the crowd. It's batshit. It takes a long time to get everybody out of the ring and they finally announce the winner. It's a fucking
Starting point is 01:28:01 mess, this whole thing. 22 people are injured. 16 people are arrested, and Rock Newman is suspended for a year and fined $250,000 by the State Athletic Commission for attacking people. Nuts. So
Starting point is 01:28:17 three members of Riddick's entourage were arrested in the melee in this whole deal here. And that's crazy. Your team won. Why are you losing your shit like that? Because he's just, I don't know what the deal was, but he kept attacking his nuts. Well, when he hit him in the nuts the third, the last time there, Bo fell on the ground. I mean, he popped him good and everybody got mad. That's what pissed him off.
Starting point is 01:28:37 And Gulotta was winning. He was ahead on all the scorecards. That's what made no sense. Like, you don't have to hit him in the nuts. You're winning. He's kicking his ass. If you watched the round, it's just like pop, pop, pop, pop to the face. And Bo's taking it.
Starting point is 01:28:48 And then he's just like, I'll hit you in the balls. Why are you hitting him in the balls? His face is so much more open. So anyway, Bo wins by DQ. He's 39-1. The event is called the Riot at the Garden. Obviously, it's a mess. So December 14th, 96, let's fight a lot again.
Starting point is 01:29:04 One more time here. This is in the ninth round. Guess what happens? Gulotta is unbelievable. He is disqualified again for continually attacking Riddick Bowe's nutsack in another fight. Again, ahead on all scorecards. How does he do this? He can't help it.
Starting point is 01:29:21 He can't. He's like, I hate his balls. I need to beat them. I need them. So anyway, he wins this fight. He's like, I hate his balls. I need to beat them. I need them. So anyway, he wins this fight, too, Bo, by round nine here. A sports writer, Golod is a Polish guy. Yeah. A sports writer called him Foul Pole is his nickname, which is terrible.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Awful, awful fucking nickname. What is that? That's a sports writer's sense of humor. That's pathetic. What the shit? Yeah, so he wins that fight. He's 40-1, Riddick Bowe. That is his last fight for eight years.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Really? He announces his retirement at age 29. Look, I'd really love to fight more, but my balls can't take it. Actually, it's worse because during the post-fight interview of this fight, you can hear his speech. He sounds hammered. Really? He sounds drunk as shit. He's 29, and his brain, you can hear his speech. He sounds hammered. Really? He sounds drunk as shit. He's 29.
Starting point is 01:30:05 He can't take it anymore. And he's just, his brain is, you can tell it's not great at all. So what do you do at this point, okay? This is December of 96. You retire from boxing. You're 29 years old. You have tons of millions of dollars, 32,000 square foot house, wife, kids. Everyone thinks you're the greatest guy on earth.
Starting point is 01:30:22 You've been on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. You've done all this stuff. What would a guy like that do, do you think? What would you do? That's seven years ago for me. I wouldn't have any idea. Yeah, I'd be— Rest.
Starting point is 01:30:32 I'm 36 now. That's what I want now is rest. Lots of it. On February 9th, 1997— Ice my balls for a couple of years. Yeah, well, he takes a really opposite approach to the whole thing. On February 9th, 1997, Bo and his friend Dion Jordan joined the Marine Corps. What?
Starting point is 01:30:47 Because that's what you do. 29, you're going to go try and be in the same physical shape as guys that are 18? And also two aren't rich. Right. You don't have to. What the fuck are you doing? Why are you doing that? Yeah, we have a major, Rick Mill, who's one of the Marine guys.
Starting point is 01:31:06 He says, quote, I don't think he'll find himself in any position to be a celebrity. He'll just be a Marine. Well, no shit. Dude, this isn't stripes. And also, too, they did that because they didn't have anything. And it's ridiculous, too, because he shouldn't even have been able to join. They did a waiver for him because you can't join past 28. He's 29.
Starting point is 01:31:25 waiver for him because you're only you're not you can't join past 28 he's 29 uh he's he's his weight 250 pounds at 6 5 is 20 pounds over the weight cutoff for his height and also too he has a wife and five dependent children in the limits three so they had to do a waiver for all of this shit they say he won't be a marine for too long because he's going to box again later in the year uh there's going to be boot camp followed by a training session through the summer. He'll attend drills in Washington with his reserve unit one weekend a month. And he's like the one weekend a month, two weeks a year thing. One of his high friends was just like, you want to lose that last 20? Let's just get you in the Marines.
Starting point is 01:31:57 They can do it, man. Yeah, they can get you down. He will be on the active reserve for three years and inactive reserve for five more. But if he retires from boxing, he could become a full-time Marine later. His wife, Judy, said, quote, this would be interesting to see. She said, quote, we'll live off base. Three years and five years. That is eight years.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Yeah, absolutely. There's a major Rick Long here. He says, quote, he was a 29-year-old millionaire, which makes sense here. Going from that lifestyle to being a Marine recruit where the average age is 19 is quite a transition. Just being told what to do, when to do it, and how fast to do it has to be very difficult for him. This lasts 11 days. He is out in 11 days. Yeah, of course. He's a Marine for 11 days.
Starting point is 01:32:38 We have an in their own words on his explanation. Yeah. In their own words. They wake up way too early. In their own words. Quote, I thought they'd probably give you a hard time for a week or so. I didn't understand that for the 12 weeks you're in boot camp, somebody was going to
Starting point is 01:32:51 be up in your face. Have you never seen fucking Full Metal Jacket? Jesus Christ. What is wrong with you? Sergeant Chuck DeMar of the Marines said, quote, he has been released at his own request. It was just that he couldn't handle the regimented training lifestyle. Well, no shit. Yeah. Listen to how stupid he is, too, at he's fat he's fat he's lazy he's rich
Starting point is 01:33:10 he doesn't reason he has five kids that's part of it too uh hbo after he's discharged offers him like a total safety net yeah so to literally they say we want to make sure you don't run out of money they say uh that it was very obvious that he was having problems in and out of the ring. So they make a deal with him to be a boxing ambassador, where he would do personal appearances and a little bit of broadcasting. So basically nothing. It's a multi-year agreement, so he would have some steady income. He did it for about six months, and then they said he, quote,
Starting point is 01:33:41 sort of drifted off and lost interest. He can't do it. Just can't do it. I can't do anything. He should have stayed doing that because he's starting to have real problems now. Like February of 97, police are called after a physical altercation between Bo and his sister Thelma. Oh, God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Riddick ends up filing battery charges against her. Really? Before dropping them within 24 hours. Apparently, Velma or Thelma, it's multiple articles. It's Thelma and Velma. So I don't know which one it is. We'll call her Thelma. Apparently, Thelma taunted him before punching him in the mouth and drawing blood.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And so then he grabbed her and sued here. So March 7th, 1997, this is the next month, Riddick announces that he wants to try the Marines again. He says he wants to be a Marine. He said, all I can think about is becoming a Marine. If they gave me an opportunity, I know I can do it. And they don't give him an opportunity. And he doesn't do it because you know he can't do it. No, we've already seen that.
Starting point is 01:34:34 It takes 11 days for him not to do it. August of 1997, Beau is charged with assaulting his wife, Judy, punching her in the face and back and shoving her across the room. He is charged with second-degree assault. There is a handwritten statement to police from his wife, Judy, from August 26, 1997, where she wrote, quote, He assaulted me in our home by punching me in the face and back. He shoved me across the room also. He has assaulted me on numerous occasions, but I have never reported them. I'm afraid to go back by myself because he has threatened me.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Sweet Pete. Shit is deteriorating. September 97, Judy takes all the kids, packs them up, and moves them to North Carolina. Gets the fuck out of there. Riddick moves out of his 32,000 square foot house. He still has it. Moves down the street to his mother's basement. That's where he's moved in.
Starting point is 01:35:24 He's just regressing. He's going to get a Nintendo. He's going to play his own video game. Sega Genesis. Pizza boxes everywhere. He visits the kids, and the kids visit him during school vacations. Bo goes to visit him. He takes
Starting point is 01:35:39 him to the movies and toy stores and hangs out with his daughters. There's all that kind of shit. Thanksgiving Day 1997. Day after shit. Thanksgiving Day, 1997. Yeah. Day after Thanksgiving, the morning after Thanksgiving, a bunch of drinking. Yeah. Still from the night before. No Black Friday sales for him, huh?
Starting point is 01:35:54 No, no, no, no. They're not doing any of that. He's got a nephew, Joey, that's at the house here. Joey begins apparently beating up one of the family's elderly uncles with a beer can. What? Which is a really odd thing that's going on. That's a weird weapon to choose. That's some holiday activity there.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Come here, Uncle Frank, start beating him with a beer can. Yeah, he went on. Then Joey went into the kitchen for a knife. Oh, fuck. That's a much better weapon. Yeah. And then also Joey was then threatening Bo's mother, Dorothy. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:36:23 So Riddick steps in. Yeah. He says, quote, what was I supposed to do? Let him hurt my mama? No. Fair enough. Yeah. So, yeah, she said she taught me to give it right back.
Starting point is 01:36:32 That's how we expressed ourselves in my family, by throwing down, quote, it's my nature to whoop ass. That's what he says. We know. So does your son's ass. His ass knows. He whoops Joey's ass. And then duct taped him and beat him with an electric cord.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yeah, and his wife knows, and Andrew Gulotta knows, and we all know. Everybody knows. Except for the Marine Corps. They don't know shit. They don't know anything because you weren't there long enough to show them anything. So he beats up his nephew, Joey, and he is charged with assault. Joey's real name is Horace. Horace Bowe.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Joey's better. I go by Joe. He's a 23 year old he has outstanding warrants for assault harassment menacing unlawful imprisonment and trespassing being a problem and uh joey's sister or joey's sister now this isn't even riddick's sister this is joey's sister keisha says quote riddick done everything for joey he bailed him out of jail paid for him to get a ged diploma diploma, took him to training camp. But all Joey wants is Riddick's money.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Jesus. Yes. He wants his money. Riddick wants his family, as we're going to find out here. On February 25th, 1998, Riddick Bowe gets in his Lincoln Navigator and he drives to Cornelius, North Carolina, where his wife is. He's got his brother Aaron Wright with him, who's his actual birth father's same thing. It's his father's name. Same parents.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Same parents. They were carrying a buck knife, a flashlight, pepper spray, and duct tape. He's getting his kids back whether they like it or not. It's still dark out. They're driving through the streets. It's early morning. They park and stop where Bo's three oldest kids get the bus to school. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:09 And he saw their kids and he got them into the truck. So he's got three of his kids. He gets them into the truck. He drives to the wife's house here. He says he wants to be reunited with the wife. So he goes in. He left his brother in the car with the children. Car running.
Starting point is 01:38:23 The whole deal. Listen, she moved many states away. Leave the car running. This will only take a sec to convince her that I love her. He pushes his way through the door, goes into his wife's bedroom. She's in her pajamas. She says, quote, the way he came at me and his tone of voice made me do what he said. He's a big, imposing son of a bitch here.
Starting point is 01:38:45 I convinced her. Yeah. He's a big, imposing son of a bitch here. I convinced her. Yeah. His seven-year-old daughter, Brenda, would later say that she remembered seeing her father come out of the house with her mother, and he had his hand on her neck, and she was crying. That's a bad sign right there. That's like, what's going on? Oh, they're getting back. She was so happy to see me, she started crying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I don't know. Why has he got her by the neck? This is bad. So Aaron drives the brother. Bo sits in the back of the truck with Judy and the five kids. There's multiple rows. At one point he takes the knife out and
Starting point is 01:39:13 jabs it through Judy's coat and stabs her a little bit in her breast area drawing blood. Actually, not deep enough to be whatever, enough tap enough to draw blood which is insane uh and he says quote if you have a boyfriend i'm going to kill him and i'm going to kill you as well holy shit so he has lost his motherfucking mind it's off the rails
Starting point is 01:39:36 off the rails they cross the border into virginia uh judy asks if they could stop uh at a mcdonald's for something to eat. So they stop at the McDonald's. She goes in, says she has to use the bathroom. While she's in the bathroom, she gets somebody's cell phone and calls the guy. She doesn't call the cops. She calls her cousin in North Carolina for some fucking reason. Her cousin calls the cops the whole deal.
Starting point is 01:40:02 But problem here is they crossed lines into Virginia. That's a big problem. So now we have a problem here. And he said, too, he thought she just wanted McDonald's. He said that they pulled into McDonald's. He said, I knew something was up when she told me her order was going to take a long time. Then he said, she wasn't getting a sandwich. She was calling the cops. Next thing you know, there's like 20 police cars at McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:40:20 You would have thought I was John Gotti. No, you're fucking Rick Bowe. Kidnapping your family, you fucking lunatic. And they know you're a giant menace heavyweight champion. One guy's not going to come cuff you, probably. So Judy didn't want him locked up, though. It's crazy. I knew something was up when she said at the fast food place that her order was going to take a while.
Starting point is 01:40:43 She wasn't getting a sandwich. She was calling the police. That lion bitch. That's amazing, man. Judy doesn't want him locked up. Bo gives her the keys to the navigator, says, you take my car, which is super weird. He calls up Rock Newman, silver-haired, middle-aged, coming to the rescue, who sends a limousine to pick him up and take him to the psychiatric ward at Howard University
Starting point is 01:41:05 Hospital by limo. Have him drop you off there in a stretch limo. How many people pull up to the mental institution in a limo? I mean, I'm sure people have, but they stole it. Yeah, exactly. They crashed it into the place. It's like Henry Hill in Goodfellas when he pops in and pops the pills and he goes, now take me to jail.
Starting point is 01:41:22 That's the same thing. Now take me to the fucking loony bin. He stays there a week. He gets depressed. He's depressed. He needs counseling. He says after that, they sent him to a battered woman's program in Baltimore, which I would keep him the fuck far away from that place.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Keep him away from women that have been beaten. Judy later says in an interview, let's find out what her state of mind is in this whole thing. She says, quote, I was in fear for my life the whole time. He showed me the knife and other stuff he had and said he came ready. He said if I didn't do what he said, he'd use the knife and the other things he had all the way on the drive. He kept saying we'd go back to be a happy family and things would be normal. I kept thinking, how can anything be normal if he's kidnapping us to take us back home with him? That never dawned on him. It didn't.
Starting point is 01:42:05 I mean, at least somebody's thinking rationally because that's when all normal family goes away. Well, he said that her mother said, if you're a real man, you go get her. Her mother, Judy's mother. So he was like, I guess I'm supposed to go get her. Like, literally, he said that. I'm going to need pepper spray. And Judy's mom said that, too. Like, you know, I didn't mean for him to go kidnap her.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I just said, you go there and you, I don't know stand outside with a boom box like john cusack rather than get a buck knife and some pepper spray i'm not sure here uh julie judy is unhurt besides a little cut she refuses medical attention and also declines to press charges she declines to press charges but it doesn't fucking matter because he crossed interstate lines. It makes an interstate domestic violence thing. The FBI is called in, and he is arrested for kidnapping, which is bad, kidnapping his whole family. She also gives some other details. She says, quote, Riddick knocked me out in front of my three-year-old last April.
Starting point is 01:43:00 I was out cold for several minutes. It never fazed Riddick. He thought nothing of it. So he's gone off the fucking deep end, man. His manager, Rock Newman, denies that he'd ever been physically abusive to his wife like he would know. He says, quote, Riddick, if he had it his
Starting point is 01:43:15 way right now, would erase whatever pain that he caused his wife and family and they'd be together as they have been in the best of times as one big happy family. I'm sure anybody that's punched their wife would love to erase it. Yeah, that's fucking ridiculous. Here's the thing, it doesn't go away because you have memory and pain. You remember that shit.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Well, also, too, on top of that, she said that, like, the beginning when he was lining people up with the Rolex and all that, she said that behavior got worse. He became more obsessed, more controlling, more just issues of control were his thing. Bo, you want to hear his explanation yes on this whole thing here what he had to say let's do it in their own words here in their own words quote i never thought it would turn out like this i had spoken to judy the night before i was like oh baby i love you i made mistakes i just want you to come home the bottom line is that judy said bo you ain't never getting no more of this pussy. Man, I didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:44:05 I said to myself, it's time to get her because there must be someone else in the picture. I should have been charged with a crime of passion. You had a man in love with his kids, with his wife. I had nobody to talk to, so I did the next best thing, which was to go get them and show them I love them. Holy shit. That must be the best sex he's ever had. It has to be. Bo, you ain't never getting no more of this pussy.
Starting point is 01:44:28 I love that line. I want that tattoo. That's hilarious. That is a phenomenal line here. You ain't never getting no more of this. Ain't never getting no more of this pussy, Bo. He calls himself Bo, as we'll find out from Twitter later, too. Hilarious.
Starting point is 01:44:43 He's a fucking menace on Twitter. He's awesome. So May 12, 1998, he's in court to answer for the assault on his nephew, Joey, there. Joey has all sorts of outstanding shit going on, too. Listen to this shit, what scumbags these people are in his family. Joey sees Riddick outside the courtroom and falls on the floor and fakes that he hit him. What? He tries to pretend thatakes that he hit him. What? He tries to pretend that Riddick hit him.
Starting point is 01:45:06 He's just standing there in a suit going to court. And his brother said, this is crazy, William Wright, who's another one of his siblings here, said, quote, he had a flashback of when Riddick beat him up. That was the excuse for it. He said, and Wright here, who's 33 years old, began to shriek when the court officers brought in, when Riddick was there. He shrieked to the court, please, court officers, help me. He said, I had to scream so he wouldn't put his hands on me.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Unbelievable. Unreal, man. That's awesome. I don't think your body regresses like a fact of what happened before. You don't get knocked out over nothing. No, you get it back and your body makes you fall down. Your legs go out like that and stuff. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:45:53 They don't want an E.L. Will here. It's fine. They don't want an E.L. Will. William says he wants to broker a deal. He's like, look, we don't need to do all this. Joey will happily drop the charges against Riddick. This is silly. We're all family for a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:46:07 Of course he will. Just a million dollars. Riddick said that he won't pay. He said, quote, how can your family do you like that? No shit. I think they've done you like that a lot. Yeah. That's what happens.
Starting point is 01:46:18 They'll do you like that when you give them an allowance and buy them homes. They look at you like you're a cash register. The judge grants Riddick a continuance so he can get new lawyers. He's already paid retainers for new lawyers, including Johnny Cochran. Really? Going to come and help him out. Johnny Cochran going to be his lawyer here. So as he leaves court, there's a reporter with him, and he's talking about the case.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Yeah. And he's singing. He's got old soul music on. And just out of nowhere, he starts talking about the Marines. He says, quote, the staff sergeant, he had an ego problem, one of those Napoleon complexes. What? He said, can you believe this guy said I wasn't doing sit-ups? Hell, I've been doing sit-ups for 20 years. Guy giving me a hard time just because I was Riddick Bowe.
Starting point is 01:47:04 And then just starts talking about something else. This is from two years before that. He's going off. He's a lunatic. He's a fucking lunatic here. May 17th, 1998, there is an article in the Daily News about how sad he is that his wife left him. And they're actually trying to get sympathy for him. It's a fluff piece.
Starting point is 01:47:21 They're trying to get sympathy for him because his wife left him and then he kidnapped her and she won't come back. It's fucking nuts here. This is when you're talking about he lives in his mother's basement. He says, in their own words, I got to read this because it's nuts. In their own words,
Starting point is 01:47:35 quote, don't want to be alone. Can't stand being alone. I got 25 million in the bank. I got cars, Rolexes, jacuzzis. I could have five women a night. I could be living anywhere, doing anything. But where am I?
Starting point is 01:47:45 Tell me where. Living in my mama's basement. That's where. You take all my fights, all the punches I took. You put that all together and it don't hurt like this. It don't compare to being lonely. I've been with Judy since I was 14. I want her back.
Starting point is 01:47:57 I want my kids back. I want to be Big Daddy again. Wow. What a fucking lunatic. I want to be Big Daddy. I want to to be big daddy again he's screaming at the heavens oh and there's clouds forming and lightning strikes uh and people like rock newman starts talking about his uh you know his his brain damage here saying he's got a slurry voice and he's got sudden anger uh strange decisions one day he sold off his fleet of cars bentley's corvettes rolls royce's range rovers sold them
Starting point is 01:48:31 all off yeah and then a month later spent more than a million dollars to get him to to get new ones to get a bunch of new cars to fill his car he's just a nutcase uh yeah he's he's a crazy person here uh april 1998 holyfield sees beau at an awards banquet, and Holyfield said Bowe was a ghost of the man who had fought him back in the day. Holyfield said, quote, it was kind of sad. He was slurring his speech. His demeanor was quite different. A guy as young as him, you wonder what happened. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Yeah, what happened? We know what happened. You delivered a shitload of – You don delivered a shitload but we get it you delivered you know uh you don't get it because you've also been punched in the head about you also drool when you smile so these things happen you know what i mean it's everybody wow um fuck uh may 98 judy files for divorce citing physical abuse she says quote it's always been a rough marriage but the last few years have been have gotten worse yeah in a marriage there are always things that happen but because you love someone you stick with them and hope
Starting point is 01:49:33 things will get better things are not getting any better i didn't see them ever getting any better well no shit june 4th 98 uh is court for kidnapping his defense team argues that he's had brain damage for years. They said what he did was misguided. They tried to give the whole sympathy thing. They said he grew up in a broken home. He doesn't want the same thing to happen to his children. He was just trying to get his family back together.
Starting point is 01:49:55 Oh, my God. Holy shit. I just want my family. Pepper spray and knives will do it. Yeah, he's got brain damage, the whole deal. They just try to do that. They say she was unhurt. And, you know, come on.
Starting point is 01:50:07 What are we doing here? It's just a misunderstanding. Nobody got hurt. Come on. I gave her a little knife stabby stab. I gave her a navigator, and I just took a limo. Navigator and a stab wound. Those go together.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And we'll figure it out later. Yeah. Maximum sentence for this crime is 10 years imprisonment. Oh, my God. $250,000 fine. uh yeah but he's going to plea bargain to reduce this whole deal here he pleads guilty uh he's waiting on sentencing he's ordered to remain in the house with uh electronic bracelet on he's on house arrest uh he could be sentenced like we said to under up to two years in prison also been ordered to undergo psychological
Starting point is 01:50:41 counseling thank you june, right after that, Bo sues his manager, Rock Newman, for $55 million claiming he stole from him. Oh, boy. Yeah. December 1st, 1998, Judge Hovey Johnson puts aside the second-degree assault charge from August of 97 when he punched his wife in the head and back and all that kind of thing
Starting point is 01:51:02 under the conditions that Bo have no violent contact with his wife, he has to complete a 10-day psychiatric evaluation and any accompanying treatments. From there, he's allowed to return to Maryland with the house arrest deal here. March 2000, sentencing day. This is for the kidnapping. He says to the court, I hope I can get this treatment so I can be a productive member of society. Beau is sentenced to 30 days in jail for kidnapping. That's sweet. I would say that's pretty damn nice there.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Sweetheart deal for him. He must also serve six months. But it's in a Thai prison. It's in a Thai prison. By the way, we will get to Pattaya because we have a Pattaya, Thailand tie-in. Not an update, a tie-in with this story. Really? Yeah, it's correct.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Two weeks in a row. Oh, my God. I had no idea until I was into this, too. He also must serve six months house arrest after jail and serve four years probation, $50,000 fine. He must continue to get treatment for brain injuries suffered in the ring. He must also promise not to box while on probation to get treatment for brain injuries suffered in the ring. He must also promise not to box while on probation to make his fucking brain injuries worse.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Judge Graham Mullen said that brain damage suffered in the ring persuaded him to be lenient with Bo and he'll remain free until a spot opens up for him at the federal penitentiary in Butner, North Carolina. Federal authorities will appeal the sentence because federally you can do that, try to get a longer sentence.
Starting point is 01:52:25 October 2000, he marries a woman named Terry. Things are going bad. Things are going awful. What do you do? You fucking get married. It's just like a woman named Terry. A woman named Terry he marries. It doesn't even matter. I know her last name. It doesn't matter. She says, quote,
Starting point is 01:52:41 he was everything that I did not expect. You see a guy like him and don't realize just how laid back, how kind he is. A lot of people with similar backgrounds, you might not think they have a great respect for women. But Bo is just amazing. And he might be coming into about $55 million. And he might get a shitload of money. You never know. He's great.
Starting point is 01:52:58 So this is good. At least he's got someone. She loves him. You would think that he wouldn't have great respect for women, but not him. He's amazing. He's terrific. February 9, 2001, Bo is arrested on charges that he hit his wife, Terry, in the head, dragged her across the room, and threatened her life.
Starting point is 01:53:14 So much respect for women. So much respect for women here. Yeah. Terry, you're a terrible judge of character. Yeah, awful judge of character. I could just see her smiling. She's smiling. A big fist comes across her face. Like, Terry, come on. What judge of character. Yeah, you awful judge of character. I can just see her smiling. She's smiling. A big fist comes across her face.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Like, Terry, come on. What did you do, Terry? Jesus, you poor lady. You made a terrible decision. No. He pleads not guilty to these assault charges. His lawyer adamantly denies that things took place in the way that, quote, this young woman says. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:41 He also says that the couple is splitting up after quote a very brief marriage yeah uh but they actually don't split up they actually stay together they're still together really they're still together these two it's crazy uh she told police that uh he twisted her arm he struck her in the head slapped her yeah and when she tried to run away he grabbed her and dragged her across the room while telling her he would kill her. Yeah. Yeah. Something tells me this has happened again since then. Yeah. Police arrived and found his wife with cuts and bruises and all that sort of thing. He's charged with third degree assault altogether.
Starting point is 01:54:14 Ma'am, what's that all over your face? Oh, this is, he put his respect on my face. It's respect. Don't you know what respect is? Look at it. He put some respect on my face. This is a deep respect here. This is more of a superficial respect. But this can you can see how deep his respect goes yeah you can see
Starting point is 01:54:29 my teeth through my cheek down to the bone uh so federal appeal uh they what they end up doing here is they vacate his sentence yeah and they resentence him to 18 to 24 months in prison but they say that he served probation pending that appeal and they're calling that time served. And that's about 18 months. So the court, the feds are pissed off because they say, quote, the court effectively relieved Bo of any obligation to serve a term of imprisonment. So they're going to appeal again.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Okay. So that's not quite right. July 13th, 2001. Finally, a fourth circuit court of appeals rules that the trial court erred in or aired in considering uh bow's diminished mental capacity from beating sustained in the ring when handing down the sentence okay trial court was ordered to either impose 18 to 24 month prison sentence mandated by the plea agreement or k take the case to trial oh shit so either one uh it says here's a quote from the uh for quote from the three panel judge of appeals.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Quote, this matter is remanded with instructions that the district court determine whether Bo's guilty plea should be set aside or whether he should be required to comply with his agreement to not seek or argue for a departure from the sentencing guidelines. He's going to fucking prison. to fucking prison. October 30th, 2002, court rules that Bo will serve his 18-month prison term and not get time served
Starting point is 01:55:50 for probation. So January 17th, 2003 is the official resentencing. He's there. He's sentenced to 18 months in prison. Yeah, later sentences were rejected, of course. February 2nd, 2003, there is a non-fluff
Starting point is 01:56:06 piece about him going to prison they're just talking about this sucks what a shit life for you he says in their own words quote i miss boxing i miss everybody and everything i miss the attention if somebody tells you that after being champion you're not going to miss the attention he's lying to you no shit uh i miss being famous and love it yeah rich yeah march miss the attention he's lying to you. No shit. I miss being famous and loved. I miss it. And rich. March 8, 2003, he's preparing a report for prison when Prince George police were called to his home in Port Washington. Officers say they found his wife, Terry, and their two children and a family friend all in hysterics with what appears to be injuries to their necks and faces.
Starting point is 01:56:43 You mean respect. Respect. They did not understand that. I was going to say, just with to be injuries to their necks and faces. You mean respect. Respect. They did not understand that, I was going to say, just with respect on their faces and necks. So much respect sprinkled all over them. Yeah, a lot of respect on the back of your neck there. Did he grab you? Bo had left the scene, but it only took police 10 minutes
Starting point is 01:56:57 to find him driving around nearby. They arrest him. He's out there looking for more people to respect. Yeah, he's respecting people. There's photos of all four of these people showing they had respect also on their wrists and on their necks. Unbelievable. There was respect on the boys, too. So now he's sitting in fucking prison.
Starting point is 01:57:16 He's sitting in jail. He's awaiting going to prison. He knows he's going to prison. He can't help but beat these people more after he's already beat her once. He's going to prison for respecting them, and now he's going to go get more time for respecting them. It's fucking ridiculous. And now he's sitting in his mansion.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Nobody's there. He's still sitting. He's got his ankle bracelet. You know what I mean? His dog, his shit all over the floor. And he's like, God damn it. He called somebody to fix it. They knock on the door.
Starting point is 01:57:38 He opens it up. It's Bobby Colorado, animal trainer. He's right there. And he says. How is it you come to arrive here? What the fuck is wrong with you? You're with a heavyweight champ in the world. You understand what that means?
Starting point is 01:57:56 You beat a van to Holyfield. He's got a fucking head like a cement block and you beat him. Now you come over. You show respect for your wife. You respected Holyfield over the course of three fights too. Now you respect your fucking wife? That's not how you do it. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:58:09 By the way, your dog's a fucking asshole. You've been treating it way wrong. Don't give it that kind of food. It's going to give it the shits. I'm telling you that right now. Don't pet my fucking dog, okay? You're going to mess him up. I got him trained very special. Respect my dog.
Starting point is 01:58:18 I got to go. I got to go. I don't respect him, all right? Don't you show me no respect. Get away from me. I got to go now. Get out of here. I got to go.
Starting point is 01:58:25 And poof, in a cloud of dog shit and marinara sauce, he disappears. He's gone. That's great. April 3rd, 2003, the body of James. So fucking silly. It's so silly. I love it. The body of James Miller, the fan man.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Real quick, if we hadn't gone to South by Southwest, that would have never happened. That would have never happened. So thank you, South by Southwest. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.'t gone to South by Southwest, that would have never happened. That would have never happened. So thank you, South by Southwest. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Thank you, South by Southwest, for giving us Bobby Colorado. You guys created an amazing character. And we have a great small-town murder case coming up from that same town that we found, which is so much fun. April 3rd, 2003, the body of James Miller, who is the fan man, who the parachute guy, is found in the woods in Alaska.
Starting point is 01:59:07 With respect all over it. By bear hunters six months after he went missing. Oh, shit. He went missing in September. He apparently chose a spot where he was not likely found. He attached a nylon strap to a tree and to his neck and hung himself. And he dangled there with great respect. Wow.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Yeah. So, June 5th. I don't know why I had to tie that guy up, but it'sled there with great respect. Wow. Yeah. So, June 5th. I don't know why I had to tie that guy up, but it's interesting. Well, he needed to be told. We needed closure. He ruined a fucking fight. He did. He ruined a fight.
Starting point is 01:59:33 I think he was a World Series one time. 86 was a World Series. Didn't he fly into the Super Bowl halftime or some shit, too? Back in the day, now they would just shoot him in the midair. Oh, fuck. It'd be over. June 5th, 2003, he goes to court for second-degree assault against his wife, Terry. This is when he's already serving federal prison time at this time.
Starting point is 01:59:50 He's in prison. The prosecutor shows pictures of everybody's respect all over them. She tries to get a 911 tape introduced, but it's blocked. His attorney says that Bo didn't respect anybody and that everything was fine and he didn't hurt anybody. No, he didn't hurt anybody. He says the only reason the case went to trial was because of his fame. He says the Bo's are happily married. Sure.
Starting point is 02:00:15 And that Terry Bo called him several times a day to say that her husband didn't strike her or her children. His lawyer says this is Silverman is his name, too, by the way. His fucking lawyer's name is Steven Silverman his name too by the way his fucking lawyer's name is steven silver that's amazing steven silver-haired middle-aged white man couldn't be any more perfect wow he says quen listen to this excuse this is a silver-haired as it gets quote he's a large man he's a powerful man if mrs but if mr bow were to hit a child or a woman they would they would probably be in the hospital if not dead it's the cody east excuse right wow that man is a loaded weapon walking around if he touches anything it will be respected to death that's what will happen
Starting point is 02:00:51 he'll respect it good uh so the the prosecutor says you know we have to protect her we have to protect society at large that's why we went forward with the case. Bo, it turns out, though, his wife and three other witnesses failed to appear in court. So he's cleared of assault charges. There's a one-hour little trial thing where he's acquitted of the four counts. And the judge said, quote, you had to have one of them here, one person at least out of the four. So I can't convict him with nothing. And Mommy said, listen, you guys, you guys like this house? You guys like the shit you got
Starting point is 02:01:26 let's say the daddy's fine let's say he respects us that's right we're missing that court date for sure in jail he starts saying crazy shit he's in jail he's earning 12 cents an hour but he says I got more than 20 million dollars I don't need any of this shit blah blah blah blah
Starting point is 02:01:42 he says he's gonna come back to boxing no problem please don't need any of this shit blah blah blah blah he says he's gonna be a come back to boxing oh god no problem please don't uh he's talking about terry he's so great uh definitely uh he's also talking that he has discovered that riddick jr is not his real son he's saying he says quote judy fooled me more than once more than anybody in my life i've got the paper saying riddick bow is not the biological father of riddick Lamont Jr. Oh, man, I still love the kid. I've been with him for 17 years. But Judy, she broke my heart. As much as I didn't want to cry, I cried.
Starting point is 02:02:11 I think a real man would show his emotions. He said that Judy just deceived him, used him as a way to get out of the ghetto, and the whole deal, he said she just screwed him over. She's a meal ticket. She's loyal, smart. The new woman says she's loyal and smart. She's everything that Judy could never be. Okay. So he's ripping her up.
Starting point is 02:02:30 She's a much better punching bag. Yeah, she'll not show up to court when I beat her. And she comes back. He said that while he was traveling and fighting, Judy was going to the bank and spending his money when he was retired. Yeah, that's called a fucking wife. That's what they do. Especially when you're rich. You're bragging about all the money you have. He said when he was retired, he said... Yeah, that's called a fucking wife. That's what they do. Especially when you're rich
Starting point is 02:02:45 and you're bragging about all the money you have. He said when he was retired, he was right on top of everything and he truly believes that's why she wanted to leave because then he was on top of shit. More like you're on top of her being controlling and showing her too much respect. You're telling her no
Starting point is 02:02:58 and she didn't have that before because you were gone. Exactly. So May 11, 2004, Riddick drops the lawsuit against Rock Newman and apologizing for claiming he stole money from him. What? He says, in their own words, quote, I was lied to and misled by a former advisor into
Starting point is 02:03:14 thinking you had stolen money from me. You have now provided every detail about how my finances were handled. I understand now that I was wrong to claim you took money from me and that it was unfair of me to bring this action against you. $55 million is a big fucking discrepancy. That's a big discrepancy. That's not like, I think he stole a million out of a hundred. I think he stole half my money.
Starting point is 02:03:32 That's a shitload. Yeah. Newman said he wanted an apology. It wasn't enough to drop the suit. He said he was hurt by it and blah, blah, blah. 2004, he gets out of prison. He attempts to get a boxing license in Tennessee, but is denied due to brain damage.
Starting point is 02:03:46 He now denies he has brain damage, even though that was literally his defense for kidnapping his wife. They had MRIs going, look how much brain damage he has. Now he's like, I don't have fucking brain damage. What are you talking about? It healed. I respect my brain. No. So September 24, 2004, Oklahoma doesn't have as strict policies here because he's fighting at the Fire Lake Casino in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Oh, my God. He fights Marcus Road, who's 35, 51, and 2. He's a very fat guy known as the Big Tuna. Bo wins by TKO in round two at 2 minutes and 45 seconds. So he's 41 and 1. Wasn't his terms of release not to fight? While he's on probation. He's out of that now? While he's on probation. Now he's out of that, so he's 41-1. Wasn't his terms of release not to fight? While he's on probation. Now he's out of that, so he can do it.
Starting point is 02:04:28 April 7, 2005 at the Pechanga Resort and Casino in Temecula, California. God, that sounds terrible. It's a terrible, ugly little place. He fights Billy Zumbren. Fight goes the distance. I can't believe he can go 10 rounds. That's amazing. After all that
Starting point is 02:04:44 time off, I gotta give him fucking credit that he has that kind of stamina to go 10 rounds. Exhausted from beating the shit out of his family. Go box for 10 rounds. Not even ever getting hit. Just throw punches for 10 rounds. You won't be able to stand by round eight. That's amazing he can do that.
Starting point is 02:04:57 I'll watch Conor McGregor's fight. Exactly. Exactly. Bo wins a split decision in that one. He's 42 and one. Exactly. Bo wins a split decision in that one. He's 42-1.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Man, summer 2005, a Fairfax County, Virginia judge ordered that Bo has to pay $2.4 million to a company called Commerce Funding. Apparently, he was funding this company, and he defaulted on financing for Unlimited Security, which was run by Bo's friend at the time. He says that he got burned, and he says he thought he loaned the money to them he didn't know he was supposed to give him money i don't know my brain is fucking pudding i have no idea i am putting brain like i don't know i had to pay it back no he loaned it to them oh he's like oh and he didn't get it back i had to know he's like i thought i had to he had to, no, he's like, I thought I had to, he had to give more. Oh, Jesus. He's like, I thought I gave him money. Like, but I guess not. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:05:48 What the fuck is going on? But he said it's fine because I got plenty of money. I got tons of cash. You heard him say he's got $20 million in the bank. So much money. He's fine.
Starting point is 02:05:54 October 13, 2005, Riddick files for bankruptcy. Yes. Remember? Yeah. Financially secure for the rest of his life. For the rest of his life.
Starting point is 02:06:02 Sports Illustrated, you cocksuckers. Listing more than $4.1 million in claims against him. His attorney says that the debts were tied to business transactions and relegated litigation and liquidity issues, which is all double talk bullshit. He says that he wants to restructure his debts so he can focus on his boxing career. Holy shit here. You don't have one anymore.
Starting point is 02:06:22 He lists assets of $1 million to $10 million, which is odd. That's a fucking big window. Yeah, I would one anymore. He lists assets of one million to 10 million, which is odd. That's a fucking big window. Yeah, I would say a lot of wow. You only owe four million. So which one is it? Yeah. Fuck, man. Among his creditors, he's listed a three million dollar claim from from a Vienna, Virginia investment fund, three hundred and eleven thousand dollars in claims from credit companies, $705,000 claimed by a California financial services company, and $5,400 owed to Prince George's County and $104 by the water company. So it's right down to his $104 water bill. It's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:06:57 All the way down to filling up his pool. God damn it. Fuck, man. You know, his fucking mom must have been pissed, too, because she was so proud. She's living in the Highlands. What the fuck are you doing? You're messing it all up. She's there.
Starting point is 02:07:09 The brothers, Joey, the fucking wife is kidnapped. His kids have cord marks on them, and they're scared. And Brenda's seeing people get drugged down the thing. Everybody's getting respected like crazy. Everyone's getting so respected. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. All these people. But not nearly. No way.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Not nearly as bad as I feel for Riddick Bowe, a 91 year old man from Dover, Delaware. Oh, that poor man. That I found somewhere on the internet. What the fuck? You want to feel bad for him? You feel even more bad for him. He would be 91, except that he died on June 5th, 1993.
Starting point is 02:07:42 So he's not alive, but I still feel bad for him. At least he got to die before Riddick Bowe really fucked up. And if you look up this idiot, you still get this poor bastard. So sorry, buddy. Fucking 25 years later. Goddamn. 2007, his daughter Morgan is born. We've got to have more kids.
Starting point is 02:07:57 What? With Terry. Let's have more kids. He forgot how to pull out. Oof. December 13th, 2008, SAP Arena, Mannheim, Germany. No. Another fight.
Starting point is 02:08:06 No. Gene Pukol, he fights. Jesus. Fight goes all eight rounds. And this is an 18, 14, and 2 career fighter. Bo wins by unanimous decision. You bet. 43 and 1.
Starting point is 02:08:17 This is his final boxing match. Thank God. Not his last fight, though. What? Not his last fight. July 2009, there's a big fluff piece in the New York Times. They keep coming fast and furious. Fighter remains
Starting point is 02:08:29 champion optimist. It's about how he's broke, and he's sitting in a parking lot in some autograph thing, signing autographs for $35 a piece. In a parking lot. Yep. He says he's in a good mood even though he lost everything, and he's still willing to box. Fuck. He wants to box. Jesus. January 25, 2012, there's an article called, quote,
Starting point is 02:08:47 Who Wants to Buy Riddick Bowe's House? Sounds like a game show. That's exactly what it is. This isn't his main house. This is a modest four-bedroom, three-bath, 21-square-foot home in Hepzibah, Georgia. I don't know how you say that. Don't Hepzibah, I think, because it's PH. That's way too many words for auction. Ziba, Georgia. I don't know how you say that. Don't Hep Ziba, I think, because it's PH. That's way too many words for auction.
Starting point is 02:09:07 Auction, yeah. You know what I mean? Who wants to buy his house? It's called an auction, dickhead. It apparently was foreclosed on. It will be auctioned in February of 2012. So it's not his. It's the fucking bank's.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Not anymore now. But you can say, hey, Riddick Bowe once owned this house and fucked it up horribly. June 14th. That's how they sell houses. It's somebody that mattered once shit here. Right in that toilet. Right there. Right fucking there.
Starting point is 02:09:29 June 14th, 2013. You know where we are? Yeah. Pattaya, Thailand, my friend. Oh, my God. Pattaya, Thailand. Getting lady boys. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:09:37 What are you doing there? Bo is in a kickboxing match at the WP. Galata convinced him? Poof. The WPMF Super Heavyweight title card. No, it was the other one. Yeah, that's why I said... Tillery, that's why I said
Starting point is 02:09:50 this isn't his last experience with kicking. He'll make $150,000 from the fight. Jesus. The Thai promoters did it to, you know, to increase international appeal of their national sport. It's called star power, Dix. Yeah, you get the guy who draws.
Starting point is 02:10:07 It's held in an outdoor ring set up beside the beach in Pattaya. This article says that Pattaya is a Thai town best known for its seaside red light district. No, it's not. It's best known for a hockey player sawing the head off a woman. Swedish hockey players will kill those red light district people. This is against a guy named Levijan Golovin. Bo weighs 300 pounds now. He's a big fat fuck.
Starting point is 02:10:30 He's slow. He's just a mess. He looks so like he's just like he ate butter for the last three weeks straight. He's just bloated. Probably all he has. He's slow and heavy. Barely lands a punch. He takes an ass kicking.
Starting point is 02:10:43 The guy just kicks his legs and shins constantly. He's not going to let Bo get near him to punch him. He'll still knock your ass out. He's a big guy. Now he's probably got more power behind him, too. More weight to push. He dropped. He fell five times in the fight, and finally it was ended by the ref after his last fall.
Starting point is 02:11:00 It was a TKO in round two. We have an in-their-own-words on kickboxing. In their own words, quote, it's much harder than boxing. Is it? You can recover from a head shot or a body shot, but when you get kicked in the leg, it lasts a long time. My leg is still hurting. I don't know how long it's been. It's called a bruise, dipshit.
Starting point is 02:11:18 I don't know how long it's been. 15 minutes? I had a lot of fun. I'm going to do it again. Next time it's going to be different. I'll be back soon. He's going to do it again. Next time it's going to be different. I'll be back soon. He's going to join the Marines right when he's done. You've got broken fucking blood vessels
Starting point is 02:11:32 in your legs. That's what that is. Go sit down. His opponent here shook his head in disbelief when he heard, when they told him that he said he'd be back. And he said, quote, it would be a big mistake. It's not for him. He's too slow and a bit too old so yeah no i did that real easily i can do it again because and you see that i barely broke a sweat august 21st or 24th 2013 he tweets quote i want to be
Starting point is 02:11:58 the first heavyweight boxing champion and heavyweight wrestling champion i have trained hard with those bumps so now he's saying he's trained to take bumps in wrestling and he wants to be a wrestler. But he changes his mind. That is in August of 2013. By September 20th of 2013, he is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, learning to be a long-haul truck driver.
Starting point is 02:12:19 I can't fucking make this up. I can't fucking make this up. Between the Marines, truck driver, it's fucking insane. Fuck wrestling. I'm going to get my CDL make this up. Between the Marines, truck driver, it's fucking insane. Fuck wrestling. I'm going to get my CDL. What the shit? His wife, Terry, did the researching and found a Cedar Rapids-based national truckload
Starting point is 02:12:33 carrier, CRST. The company is going to train her husband. You've seen CRST. Yeah, absolutely. She said it has permit training, which is like a three-day seminar to help with the written portion. He may need the full two-week you know she said it has permit training which is like a three-day seminar to help with the written portion and there's they teach it he may need the full two-week school she said he says because i know we're going long on this but this is fucking great this is so depressing
Starting point is 02:12:56 when you get a famous person this is what it is you wonder why we don't do the fit why don't you do lawrence taylor because it'd be five parts's why. Because I'd have to talk about everything. This is why I fucking do unknowns. In their own words, quote, I was watching a program on television and saw former NBA star Karl Malone. I said, wow, that's a way I can get out of the house because all these years I've been retired, I've been in the house. So I said, why not me? I love driving.
Starting point is 02:13:20 It just makes me relaxed. All my worries go away. I like a truck because it's big like I am. And I think I'll have a lot of fun working with it. I've always considered myself to be a regular person, so now I'm doing what regular people do. I'm just finding a new career. I've been sitting around the house for 20 years. I'm so sick of it.
Starting point is 02:13:34 So I figured, why not drive a truck? I ain't got nothing else to do. Hopefully, I'll eventually open up Big Daddy's Trucking Company. Oh, my God. You fucking crazy shit. Isn't that, like, he says, I saw Carl Malone. Doesn't Carl Malone own the trucking company? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:48 And he doesn't do it? No, he's fucking Carl Malone. He's not driving. He's not driving from L.A. to fucking New York. He does it for fun, but he's not like, I got a load that if it's not in Sacramento by 6, my ass is grass. Then my mortgage doesn't get paid. My ass is grass.
Starting point is 02:14:00 I'm going to get fired, man. I got to drop this load off. No. Carl Malone. That's hilarious. get fired, man. I've got to drop this load off. Carl Malone, that's hilarious. Fucking ridiculous, man. So late 2013, he's living in the U.K. for some reason. So he goes from wrestler to truck driver, and then a month later he's in the U.K.
Starting point is 02:14:14 They said, what brings you to the U.K.? And he said, let me get straight at it. I want to help the kids, okay? I want them to put the weapons down and take it to the gym. For me, it's very important to show that there's another way. After all, if someone hadn't looked out for me, where would I have been? I don't know exactly where you are now.
Starting point is 02:14:33 Huge criminal record, brain damage, same shit. You might have HIV and died. If you ran with your brother, who knows? Maybe. January 14, 2014, tweeting about wrestling again. He says, quote quote how about my fans how about my fans help me convince TNA Dixie who's Dixie Carter
Starting point is 02:14:50 who runs TNA Wrestling to give me a shot at wrestling spread the word partners then the next tweet like 10 minutes later he says put me in the ring with at Hulk Hogan and I'll bust him up and all his friends holy shit damn straight that's what's up partners so now he's a cowboy he's got a catchphrase.
Starting point is 02:15:05 He's got a catchphrase. Damn straight, partners. That Hulk Hogan calls people brother. Yeah, I'll call him partner. Come here, partner. He's going to do that. There's more respect on that word. So he actually finds a place to wrestle.
Starting point is 02:15:18 Oh, my God. He is set to make his debut for the UK-based Preston City Wrestling Organization. Well, he was there for something else, then he found this. He's supposed to do this on March 1, 2014, but then they announced on their Facebook page that Bo would no longer be appearing due to a disagreement with his agent. So he changes his mind. He wants to get paid a lot here.
Starting point is 02:15:39 February 26, 2014, Riddick pisses off a shitload of soccer fans. Really? He says Liverpool fans fans to be specific. He says earlier in the day he was asked why he supported Everton. That's his team apparently. He found a team while he was over there. And he responded by writing, holy shit, wow. He tweeted this, quote, I'm going to get sick of peeps asking me why I'm an Evertonian fan
Starting point is 02:16:05 as if they feel as if they was real fans they would know you don't choose to be one you get chosen if you an LFC fan I hope you die that's what's up wow that's fucking aggressive nobody does NFL fans like they're some of them are
Starting point is 02:16:23 fucking Philly fans don't say, I hope all Dallas fans die. No, they do, but they don't say it publicly. Minutes later, he tweets, quote, do my EFC family want me to apologize to LFC fans? Evertonians have a say in what I say. We a team, partner. That's what's up. He loves that partner. He sticks with that.
Starting point is 02:16:42 That's what's up, too. Little while later, he said, quote, sincerest apologies to any LFC fans I have offended. Sounds like they fucking told him, yeah, yeah, yeah, you need to tone it down with the hope they die part. Take a joke, partners. We all die in the end. Ain't you see my second tweet? Go blue.
Starting point is 02:16:58 Love to all. Holy shit. He's definitely tweeting his own shit, by the way. He doesn't have anybody else doing it. No, there's no ghostwriter behind that. Certainly fucking not. December 5th, 2014, the Boxing Hall of Fame announced that they're going to induct Riddick Bowe into the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 02:17:15 Riddick Bowe, Ray Boom Boom Mancini, and Prince Nassim Hamed. A crazy shit here. So April 14th, 2015, he announces that he will tweet anything you want for $20. Wow. He has 451,000 followers. He tweeted, Jesus Christ, he tweeted, quote, I will tweet anything to anyone. Just PayPal me $20. Bo at Riddickbo.com.
Starting point is 02:17:39 That's what's up, Bo. I might actually PayPal him something. I don't think he's still doing it, but he probably would do it anyway if he got a $20. I just want him to say, Crime and Sports episodes is the greatest story of my life. He actually has a thing going now. I saw it a week ago. This is what made me look him up. I saw it a week ago where he will—he was a big thing.
Starting point is 02:17:57 I'll follow anybody back if you follow me, or if you retweet this tweet, I'll follow you back. So, like, you want Riddick Bo to follow you, you do this. So anybody out there, you can get Riddick Bo to follow you? You do this. Anybody out there, you can get Riddick Bowe to follow you. It's at Riddick Bowe. Go find it. So here is what the ensuing $20 tweet said. Quote, Hey, Buddy McStudley, I'm going to kick you right in the giblets and then you know the
Starting point is 02:18:17 fucks out. That's what's up, Bowe. Quote, I tell you now, at Jake Lee, yes is twice the fighter I ever was. That's what's up, Bowe. 20, I tell you now, at Jake Lee, yes, is twice the fighter I ever was. That's what's up, Bo. 20 bucks got that. Kenny Randall from Farmingdale once beat me up with my own shoes. That's what's up, Bo.
Starting point is 02:18:32 So it's people just making him say crazy shit. That's April 14th. April 15th, the next day, he is on TMZ telling everybody that he's not broke. It was just to have a little fun, the $20 a tweet stunt. It's just to have fun. He's not broke. It was just to have a little fun, the $20 tweet stunt. It's just to have fun. He's not broke. It's all good. For $20, I'll tweet anything.
Starting point is 02:18:52 I'm not broke. I've got plenty of cash. I'm flush. His rep said, quote, he was just trying to help out his fans. They asked me to tweet things, and it kind of got spurred out of control. That's all it was. So June 14th. I'll tweet anything you guys want.
Starting point is 02:19:05 I don't give a shit. Insulting shit to myself. I don't care. Doesn't matter. Denigrating, whatever. June 14th, 2015, he is finally inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, New York, which he fucking deserves to be. He's a great fighter.
Starting point is 02:19:19 He's an undisputed champion. That doesn't happen a lot. I'm fucking blended up brain. Oh, my God. August 21st, 2016. Want another career for Bo? Yeah. He's had truck driver rest.
Starting point is 02:19:32 Fuck yes. How about opening up a chicken restaurant? Oh, Christ. Let's fucking add that. It's Bo's Fast Food Place in New York. It's on 116th Street and Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Sells rotisserie chicken and fresh juices. What?
Starting point is 02:19:48 There's people outside hawking, going, hey, come on in, meet the champ. Britton Bowe's in there. There's people walking in like, okay, all right, I guess I'll go meet the champ here. They have another one planned for the Bronx soon. You know it's a piece of shit place, too. You know it's ugly. It used to be like a massage parlor or something, too. Oh, yeah. You know it's ugly. I would say. It used to be like a massage parlor or something, and now he's selling chicken out of it.
Starting point is 02:20:09 And juices. And juices. Blended juices. So he's making smoothies. His manager, who's also his business partner, Ashley Kahn, who sounds like a lady who said, I'll take some money from this guy. She's called the, quote, fast-talking manager. Oh, great.
Starting point is 02:20:22 She says, we have big plans. I'm hoping he can dress up like Santa Claus for Christmas and hand out turkeys. I want to make a special I want to make a special bow juicer. It could be like the George Foreman grill. Could be like the George
Starting point is 02:20:38 Foreman grill. Just as just the same. I want him to dress up turkeys and make a bow juicer as if being in prison wasn't low enough as if you're not scared shitless enough for this guy jesus fucking christ what a mess man this is a goddamn disaster this is such a disaster and when he's dressed up like Black Santa, looking in the mirror going, fuck, how did I do this? Swinging a power cord at the kids as they come near him going, I respect you.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Let me show you respect. Just swinging the shit. Take this turkey. Take it. Holy shit. So you figure that's going to be his career now. That's August 21st, 2000. So let's get into also that year, 2016.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Five former heavyweight champions and also cigar aficionados, Riddick Bowe, James Toney, Ray Mercer, who we know about, Lamont Brewster, and Chris Bird, who was a nasty smooth lefty, I remember, are hosting a launch party for their company's new cigar line at Indiana
Starting point is 02:21:41 Grand Casino in Shelbyville, Indiana. They all put in 50 bucks and now they got cigars it's it's named heavyweight champ cigars celebrates two things that go together like peanut butter and jelly or sake and red wine watching boxing and a fat stogie oh it's not the first time the five friends have ventured into business together they also have a non-profit thing for promotions or a not a non-profit but a promotions thing that Brewster runs. Yeah. Somebody was like, Don King's got billions of dollars.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Let's try that. Let's do that. The festivities begin at 930. Entry is free. Yeah. So, you know, get there. Also, too, first 40 guests will receive a free cigar. All right.
Starting point is 02:22:22 You got to have that. A shitty one. A shitty one. First 40 guests will receive a free cigar. All right. You got to have that. A shitty one. A shitty one. May 19, 2016, he was at the Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Indio, which is a shithole
Starting point is 02:22:33 Indio. This is part of a boxing fight card put together by Golden Boy Promotions, which is Delahoy is. It's a 10-round welterweight fight that'll be broadcast there. Fans with a ticket to the fight card have an opportunity to meet Riddick Bowe, have a photo taken with him, and memorabilia signed at 6 p.m. Oh, boy. So get there.
Starting point is 02:22:51 The welcome sign for Indio should just say, sorry, it's not L.A. Sorry, gas is over here. It's fine. There's a gas station to your left. And an apology. A very long, you're almost there. I'm so sorry. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:23:06 November 28th, 2016, Riddick Bowe is getting back into the ring to help a Salt Lake City charity. He will box three rounds against three different opponents at a Camp Costalupus, Costopolis gala. So he's, I don't know, fighting the camp counselors now. It sounds like it's probably like a worked wrestling thing. Brutal. He's fighting camp counselors for charity now. Helping the kids. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:23:31 May 3rd, 2017, he was at Central High School in Louisville, which is Muhammad Ali's alma mater with Ray Mercer. He's just hanging out with Ray Mercer now. Wasn't that shortly before? Wait, no. I was going to say Muhammad Ali's death was just fairly recent. That was last year. This is May 3rd, 2017. Currently, he is set.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Maybe he just couldn't. Maybe he went to Muhammad Ali's funeral and just hasn't gotten home yet. Maybe. He's still wandering around, showing respect to everybody. Just asking for 20 bucks for tweets. Currently, he's set to play a character named Big Daddy. So he's got his character Big Daddy in a film called Devotion,
Starting point is 02:24:08 which is in pre-production. It stars Tom Sizemore, Kevin Sorbo, who's TV's Hercules, John Amos, who's the father on Good Times, Larry Wilcox, who's Ponch's partner on Chips, and Daniel Baldwin, who's the lesser Baldwin. What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:24:23 The worst one. A crackhead tv hercules good times dad fucking paunch's partner and a lesser baldwin what the fuck is that shit and fat baldwin that's what you got couldn't even get steven in this shit couldn't who was the other one uh steven i don't give a shit what's the worst one the one from fucking biodome oh isn't that that's steven is that no no steven's the one no billy billy's the one in sliver steven's the one in biodome The one from fucking Biodome. Oh, that's Steven. Is that Steven? No. No, Billy. Billy's the one in Sliver. Steven's the one in Biodome. Daniel's the douchebag who was in Homicide and the one who really doesn't get any work.
Starting point is 02:24:52 Is he the one that was in Marlboro Man? I don't know. The fat one from Marlboro Man. I'm not sure. If he's the fat one, that's him. Yeah, that's the fat one. The dummy one from Biodome is Steven? I think that's Steven.
Starting point is 02:25:03 Yeah, that's Steven. And the one in Backdraft? I don't know. I hate Backdraft. Can't fucking stand it. Drives me nuts. I want to Google and I refuse to give that page the traffic. The only one that matters is Alec.
Starting point is 02:25:17 Everybody else sucks. So he's going to be in that movie. And if you're looking forward to take a trip down to get some chicken and juice, don bother because it's closed down closed down permanently there's no santa claus no santa claus no turkeys no bow juicer none of that shit uh if you cannot get enough of riddick bow i can't you can't there's a shitload of autograph memorabilia out there because he signed there's too much to even list there's a bunch of shaky autographs somewhere. Every fucking weekend, there's autographed pictures of him. But if you want to read a book, we have Amazon.com. You can get The Triumph and Tragedy of Riddick Bowe.
Starting point is 02:25:52 You betcha, Tragedy. Paperback. Came out in 2011 by author Christian Vick. Right now, the cheapest copy used is $28.28. Cooking. Holy shit. Does that come with a tweet? Fuck, it comes with respect is what that comes with and a tweet.
Starting point is 02:26:07 So that is Riddick Bowe. That's a long mess of a disastrous story, but it needed to be that long. Otherwise, we couldn't have covered it, honestly. And if you want to find Riddick Bowe, go to who I follow on Twitter because I'm about to follow him right fucking now. Oh, so am I. I have to. It's messed up because I thought, should I cut out a lot of this fight stuff? And I'm like, yeah, but then you're going to go, why does he have brain damage?
Starting point is 02:26:26 You had to show that he's fighting all these consecutive fights. All of this shit was necessary. If you like that story, I don't know how the hell you couldn't, please give us five stars on iTunes. Tell us you're following instructions, following directions. We'll take it. If you want to be an even bigger hero to us and have us love you forever and have our
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Starting point is 02:27:05 You guys, I don't know what spurred it or whatever, but the amount of people that reached out to help, it's really incredible. And we really, really appreciate you guys. It means the world. Everybody from Leslie Chattop. If I could, I'd go out there and I would show each and every one of you proper respect if I could. Yeah, no doubt. So much respect. There was so much respect.
Starting point is 02:27:28 You'd have it all over your head and neck and wrists and arms. It'd be crazy. Leslie Shaddam. Peter Aylett. Yeah, yeah. It's got to be Aylett. L. Camille Anderson. Bill Belichick's World Podcast.
Starting point is 02:27:41 I'm not sure. I haven't heard it yet, but I imagine it's all football because it's Bill Belichick's World. Probably. It would make sense. It's probably about sewing. It's like, you don't know if Bill likes sewing. Or talking really slow. Or never smiling. It may be cutting the sleeves off of hoodies. Cutting the sleeves off of hoodies. I can't stand Belichick, but then I love him because he does that to say,
Starting point is 02:27:57 fuck you to the NFL, which makes me go, yeah, I like that. That's good. So Bill Belichick's World Podcast. Check them out. Nathan Lewis, The Daily Pickle, Jennifer Tigney, Alita. Alita White found Barbara from our podcast. Yes. I'll talk about that on the other show. Through family, friends, and friends.
Starting point is 02:28:12 It's crazy. Thank you. So Alita, thank you. Rebecca Oxford, Kay Halfpenny, Lisa, Eric Madison, Lisa, or not Lisa. It's Melissa. Melissa. God damn it. Melissa.
Starting point is 02:28:21 How do I look? Melissa. Like a foreigner. Melissa Butler. Hey, it is Melissa. Melissa. Which your How do I look? Melissa. Like a foreigner. Melissa Butler. Hey, this is Melissa. Melissa. Is this what your wife's real name is? Yeah, her name's Lisa.
Starting point is 02:28:30 This is my wife, Melissa. This is my Lisa. This is my Lisa. Yeah, it's your French. Melissa Butler, Marie Claire Reedy, Claire Tremblay, James Bond Simmons, who has maybe the coolest name that ever happened. That is pretty cool. If you get rid of Simmons, James, you're killing it.
Starting point is 02:28:43 I would drop the Simmons on me. Yeah, yeah. Fuck Simmons. I don't know. J.K. Simmons is a pretty badass dude. Yeah, That is pretty cool. If you get rid of Simmons, James, you're killing it. James Bond Simmons. Yeah, yeah. Fuck Simmons. I don't know. J.K. Simmons is a pretty badass dude. Yeah, that's pretty cool too. You got two cool people fucking mashed together. I'm sure there's more. No, no. Richard ruins all of it. So get rid of Simmons. Yeah, that's true. Clyde Simmons, the old Eagles defensive end.
Starting point is 02:28:59 There's lots of them. I'm sure there's more in the NFL too. Simmons is pretty popular. Krista Morris, Thomas Butler. There's another Butler. Heather Fowler. It's got to be Fowler. Patrick Stockland upped his pledge. Thank you. David Lowe Phan.
Starting point is 02:29:15 Hillary Price. Kimberly Baum. Byron Bell. Laurie Malou. It's got to be Malou. That's got to be French. Either way, the fact that you're struggling with it, it'll be worth the donation to them. Laurie Malou, thank you. Marissa Rebar or Ribber?
Starting point is 02:29:33 Rebar. R-I-B-A-R. Marissa. All right. Whatever. You know who you are now. You know you. I made that very specific.
Starting point is 02:29:42 Oh, fucking hell. I knew there was going to be one. Meg Markinkowski. That's not bad. Mark in mars in kowski probably looks there's a c yeah it's tough oh yeah it looks brutal i got you meg markenkowski thank you este uh laglace langlace damn it i almost had that one este este langlace thank you uh manj sanja he uh he upped his thanks man he's over in england he's terrific jordan with a y he also had a back on Twitter this week. He did. Thank you, Manj.
Starting point is 02:30:06 Yeah, yeah. Along with Andrew Bailey and Dana Grayson and Tamara. You guys were amazing. Thank you guys for being cool and having our backs. Yeah. Well, we're never speaking of that ever again. No, no. I don't want to be specific with that and give that twat the fucking time.
Starting point is 02:30:21 Thank you to them for being cool and having our backs. Thanks for being badass when somebody was a cunt and wasn our backs fired back on people and sending me nice messages. Mariah Noah, Tyler Marsh, Erica Chase, Rachel Ray, which is a great name because I'm in love with that lady. Right before we recorded this, we were talking about her. You're like a little stubby dwarf hand. I do. And she's got an open marriage, and I dig that. I want her.
Starting point is 02:30:41 Look at you. Unfortunately, you don't for you. You'll get a lot of respect from your wife. That's all you'll get. Show respect to your ball bag. Show respect to the shit out of me with a lawyer. Yes. Charles M. Speck, Ryan Anderson, Solmec, Greg Zidaneck, Peggy LaPrell, Charlie, Sarah
Starting point is 02:31:03 Spence, Shandell, Whitney, Morgan Spink, Sarah Soap. We're almost done. Katie Callahan, Kimberly Baum. I already said you, Kim, but thanks for it. Thanks. Like it twice. So nice.
Starting point is 02:31:14 We like it twice. Mark Piotrowski, Jen Richards and Ben Richards, David Schaap, Robert Dye, Michelle Rupert, Robin Joyner, Michael Bretz, Kathleen Cassidy, Jordan Neverez, Jessica Landgren in fucking- Jessica, you're the- Thank you so much, Jess. You're such a darling. You're our savior.
Starting point is 02:31:33 We love you. She's in Australia. That's where I was going. Yes, thank you. You rock. Melissa Hoover, Margie Coons. I know that's Coons because I'm not going to fuck it up and go the other way because she's-
Starting point is 02:31:42 She posted a phonetic spelling of her name. Yeah, don't you dare say. Yeah. Don't you. Don't say Coonley. Or fucking something else that sounds horrible. Yeah. Laurie Jansen.
Starting point is 02:31:54 Frederick Cook or Luke? Was it Cook? It's Cook. It's got to be Cook. Yeah. Jane Greaser. That's awesome. I dig that so much.
Starting point is 02:32:03 Last two. Narman. God damn it. Narman. Ada Morava. Ada Morava. Ada. dig that so much last two garbage pal god damn it narman ada marava ada miharova and the last one is steven rooney look at that that's an easy one easy you guys that three pages of people that give a shit about us so much that they're helping so much i can't tell you guys how much we appreciate it's it's really, it's beyond words. That's basically, that's the credits to this show. That's essentially the producers of this show today. That's what it is because we're doing it
Starting point is 02:32:30 for you. For real. We're doing it for you and you guys, honestly man, that's why this episode, like it's so long and it's so thorough is like, I literally was sitting there this week going man, these people were so... We can't half-ass it. It has to be like so fucking good and it has to be so much detail, and we have to give them more.
Starting point is 02:32:47 I feel like we just need to give you more because you keep giving us more. You guys give us more, and we give you more. So thank you guys so much. If you want to get a hold of us on social media, you can do that on Instagram and Twitter at CrimeAndSports, Facebook.com slash CrimeAndSports, CrimeAndSports at Gmail.com. And if one of these fine, fine people wanted to get a hold of a person like, say, you, Jimmy, and show you proper respect,
Starting point is 02:33:07 how could they find you? You can respect me at WismanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N sucks, on Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat. Involve yourselves. Play along, guys.
Starting point is 02:33:16 It's fucking amazing. And this week, I imagine we're going to get a tweet from Riddick Bowe telling us that we're assholes for this. We're dicks,
Starting point is 02:33:22 and he's going to find us and show us all the respect in the world. He's got so much respect and $20 million to fly to where we are. And I am at Jimmy P is funny. And if you want to try to copy and paste my last name, if you want to find me on Facebook, just do that. Don't be a hero.
Starting point is 02:33:36 And if there's like a day or two where I'm totally quiet and you guys tweet at me and I don't like it or anything, when I'm like doing research mode, I can't look at that. I can't look at the phone. I don't look at the news. I don't like it or anything. When I'm doing research mode, I can't look at that. I can't look at the phone. I don't look at the news. I don't know what's going on. Literally, North Korea could be launching missiles at us, and I'd be like, I don't know if they're fucking coming, because I got Rick Bow and his fucking marriages and his brain damage to think about.
Starting point is 02:33:56 I apologize if it takes a day to get back to me or if it slips under. You can stay away from it, because the media just avalanches and bombards you with one story, and then we don't know that Montana's on fucking fire. That's the other thing, too. I had no idea. I had no idea Montana was on fire. One of our listeners told us that and showed us pictures. And it sounds horrible.
Starting point is 02:34:12 They're losing a whole bunch of forest and National Park. And people's homes are at risk. And it looks terrible up there. They can't breathe. So look into that, too. Look into Montana. The moon's not white in Montana right now. It's like a sooty, yellowish, orangey. It's so it's so terrible it's terrible but guys thank you guys so much for everything thanks
Starting point is 02:34:29 for hanging in stay safe whether you're in you got hurricanes or floods or fires or it's all fucking going to shit if you're waist deep in water or currently on fire we're down for you we're sorry we hope this can brighten your day just a little bit and And live from the Crime and Sports studios, we will see you next week. Bye. Bye. Hey, Prime members. You can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts.
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