Crime in Sports - #85 - The Attack Of The Disoriented Sasquatch - The Uncooperativeness of Barret Robbins

Episode Date: September 19, 2017

This week, we explore the inner workings, and outer actions of a man who was on the cusp of what he worked his whole life for, only to have it all pulled away. What caused him to spin out of ...control? Drugs? Alcohol? Steroids? Mental Illness? Brain Damage? The answer is yes. Yes to all of those things, making one of the most flammable cocktails ever put together by a criminal athlete. And making for some of the wildest times we've ever covered. An insanely hilarious journey into the life of the man who missed the Super Bowl, and barely even knew it.Wander around without shoes, miss your chance to play in the Super Bowl, and get shot right in the heart with Barret Robbins!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at...patreon.com/crimeinsportsCheck out or site: truecrimecomedyteam.comAll web support by Web and Writerwebandwriter.com or Facebook.com/webandwriterFor a special offer that includes a 4 week trial, postage, AND a digital scale, go to stamps.com, click on the microphone, and enter the code CIS!!Contact us on...twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/crimeinsports  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 strange, dark, and mysterious stories on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Crime and Sports. Yay! Oh, yay indeed. My name is James Petragal. I'm here with my co-host. I am Jimmy Wissman. Thank you guys so much for joining us.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Are we excited or what today? As always, hope you guys enjoyed our extra long, extra special, extra insane episode last week. What the shit. On Riddick Bowe. Such a big guy like that, he needed a big episode. You know what I mean? More than that, he kept it going after the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Oh, yeah. He's still going. He's yeah. He's still going. He's still going on Twitter. He's trying to sell you fantasy football. He will grift money from you in a second. That's what he's doing now.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Update on Riddick Bowe. He's grifting. If you follow him on Twitter, he will DM you and try to sell you fantasy football. Instantly. It's like a bot thing.
Starting point is 00:02:00 It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. At first, I thought he was angry with us and that he heard the show. Yeah. And then when I responded back and he's like, when are we playing? And I'm like, playing what?
Starting point is 00:02:09 And he's like, go to the app. They're giving away a million dollars. I'm like, is this motherfucker hacked? What just happened? What is he doing? Is he selling me shit? Did he click on a porn site, and they're trying to get me to? Apparently so.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And then you click on the app, and it's a fucking fantasy football app. Yeah, I was dumb enough to click on it. I could have been fished. Well, you've got to know what he's trying to sell you, though. That's what he's selling. Just out of curiosity. It's ridiculous. What is this idiot trying to sell us?
Starting point is 00:02:30 And at first you think, like, this is fake. This is absolutely fake. But he signs everything to you. Oh, yeah, Bo. Everything is signed Bo. Yeah. It's ridiculous. I don't know if they have a bunch of templates and they automatically go out or what the
Starting point is 00:02:41 deal is, but it's a messed up operation over there. It's a checkmark fucking... Oh, yeah, no, he's verified. Verified account. He's got half a million followers or some shit. It's definitely that dickbag, Griffin. Oh, it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:02:51 He'll post videos of himself and everything. And then he told me, he told me, get in it. I won $400 last week. It's just like, how low have you fallen that $400 is enticing? You shouldn't be bragging over about $400 at this point in your life. She's like, I don't need that shit. Fantasy football, I'm relaxing. I got enough to pay for my Hyundai last month.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Oh, boy. You have fallen for us. That's the saddest thing. I'm 6'4", so I can relate to this height-wise. There's nothing sadder than a 6'7 guy who did nothing with his height, so now he has to fold himself into a fucking Hyundai Elantra every time he wants to go somewhere. There's nothing sadder than that.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And a 200 mile drive to that man is torture. He's a big, he's huge now too. He's gotten hefty. Over 300 pounds. Thank you guys so much for your iTunes reviews this week. You really, really killed it for us. We appreciate it so much. Honestly, guys, that drives us up the charts. It helps so much on the business end.
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Starting point is 00:04:59 We really appreciate it. And with that all out of the way, house cleaning, cleaning Riddick Bowe let's get into today's especially crazy episode I mean this is a we've had some wacky ones yeah this is this one is out there it's brain damage sports bring you some really wacky and we got some brain damage brain damage mental illness and drug abuse all wrapped up in one as you know that's going to be a party somebody breaking the law and he has done something that no one on our show has done before. What? We have a first time today. First time offender?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Not a crime. Something that happened to him never happened to anybody else before in the crime realm. Hard to explain now, but you'll get it in a little while. Let's get into it with Barrett Robbins. Don't know him. You know him, actually. Barrett Glenn Robbins. He was the center for the Raiders that disappeared for the Super
Starting point is 00:05:46 Bowl. Oh, shit. You all remember that. We'll get into that later, but that's how we all remember him as if you watched the Super Bowl in 2003, the 2002 season. Before the game, they're like, the starting center for the Raiders is gone. We have no idea where he is. He might be dead. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Maybe it's his fault they lost. Who the hell knows? Yeah, he's the starting center know they have a lot of coverages to pick up and and to call and things like that big fucking responsibility oh it's huge it's a huge center is almost as important as the quarterback captain of the offensive line you got your middle linebacker for the everything starts based on that center quarterback absolutely so that's a big deal and he was doing really well that year. But let's go back further. Okay. Back to his birth.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Oh. August 25th, 1973. Yeah. He grows up to be a big dude. Yeah. In his playing days. As a center is. 6'3", 320.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Holy fuck. Big, big, big, tough man. Not a ton known about his childhood childhood. Everybody just said he seemed to have a nice childhood. Yeah. Nothing crazy. His mother died early. That was something. Not early, but when he was young. When he was, I think, a teenager
Starting point is 00:06:52 or something like that. That's brutal. So he ends up going to Sharpstown High School in Houston, Texas. This high school, he plays football there, obviously. So I looked up some Sharpstown High School, Houston, Texas, trying to figure something out about that.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Maybe that's a clue. And I found actually a crazy thing here. On June 2nd, 1988, when he was actually in the school, he actually went to the school at this point, it's the final day of school, last day of school, June 2nd, 1988 at 11 a.m. So you figure that's the last day of school. Everybody's usually happy. So you're fucking off. Oh, everybody's happy.m. Yeah. So, you know, you figure that's a last day of school. Everybody's usually happy. You're fucking off. Oh, everybody's happy.
Starting point is 00:07:26 People are thrilled. Apparently three black kids attacked a white football player in class, an algebra class, for some beef they had beforehand. And this is the last day of school. This is the last day of school. And the fight grew into 100 participants. It turned into a giant riot with 400 or 500 more kids watching it.
Starting point is 00:07:47 High school kids. And it's just a race riot. It's a straight white kids fighting black kids race riot, which is insane in 1988. But I don't know, Texas. I don't live in Texas. I don't know,
Starting point is 00:07:56 but maybe that's common. I have no idea how many race wars you have in your school. I've never had one in my school, so I don't know. We didn't have any race wars. We had stabbings, but not race war. From 96 to 99, I lived in a very upper middle class white neighborhood
Starting point is 00:08:12 and there was probably, I don't know, 30 or 40 black kids at the school. And the white kids, you would hear people say the N word openly. Yeah. Jesus Christ. And not just the black kids saying it like the white kids would say it about black people it was bananas wow i grew up in a weird time i grew up in new york that shit would have got you killed quickly yeah that's not okay in a fairly affluent neighborhood that's yeah wow they get a little it's a bit of white privilege jesus i would say they get a little they knew they were gonna get away with feeling strong. You're feeling strong, I guess. My point is, in Texas, eight years earlier, I imagine it was pretty common for those words to be thrown around. Eventually, it's going to get you hurt. Well, this caused this huge riot.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Sixteen police cars and a helicopter were dispatched to the school because there's a hundred kids fighting. You need a shitload of people to break that up. You don't know what's going on. Something to get the overhead so you can see and then you can surround them. It's crazy, man. They did the whole thing. Two students. Only two students were hospitalized out of that, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:12 They had to close down the street. Yeah. Yeah. The funny thing is the main kid who instigated the whole thing is a former student who was expelled the year before. Oh, it's always those kids. Yeah. He came back and yeah. him and two other people,
Starting point is 00:09:27 they had nails. They had a stick with nails in it. What the fuck? And a chain. No. Looking for apparently a white football player beat up two black kids a month earlier. Okay, so you bring boards with nails?
Starting point is 00:09:38 So it's turned into just a race war, an all out race war in high school. Jesus. These kids are 17. Relax. That's nuts. The poor algebra teacher was in class and I guess they have a panic button there, which I didn't know that happened in school. In 88, they had panic buttons in school.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And I guess she was pressing the panic button, and they were turned off. So she sent a student to go, go tell them there's a riot. Go run. Send word forth. There's a problem. A big fucking problem. Go run. Send word forth. There's a problem.
Starting point is 00:10:03 There's a big fucking problem. So he gets through all this, doesn't get bogged down in any race rioting or anything like that. He didn't fight? I don't know if he was involved in that. They didn't release names of kids. He was 14, 15 at the time. So we don't know what kids did what or anything like that. But it was white football players versus the black kids.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So he was a white football player. Probably threw a punch or two. Might have been in the melee. It's possible. That's why I wouldn't even have brought it up if it wasn't the football team that was involved, which he was a part of. That's nuts. So he ends up going to TCU.
Starting point is 00:10:34 He chooses TCU as his college, the Texas Christian University. Good school. Texas Christian. That's how I always hear. If I ever see TCU, I just hear Texas Christian. That's how you know people say it. The Horned Frogs, if you're not from the U.S., that is their name. What a horrible, horrible.
Starting point is 00:10:49 The Horned Frogs. Yes. Nice mascot. I've never seen a Horned Frog before. I'm sure it exists. Who chose that mascot? That's a dumb exist. That's vicious.
Starting point is 00:10:57 They're going to be scared when they see that shit on our helmets. It's got horns on it. Oh, boy. It's a devil frog. It's a devil frog. You get a Christian school and you got a devil frog? And then on top of that, they had to have somebody make that costume for the mascot. We're like, how do we make a human frog thing?
Starting point is 00:11:15 What do we do here? What are the horns on this damn thing? What the hell do we do here? So he goes to TCU. His first year is under Pat Sullivan, who was a TCU coach for a long time. And I think he had like three winning seasons in 10 years. He was awful. Did he go anywhere else?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Pat Sullivan, not as a head coach. As a head coach, he was only TCU. It was like a 10-year stretch. And he had like two winning seasons. And they weren't even like, oh, he had a 10-0 season. He had like, oh, he was 6-5 this year. Wow. Big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And his last year, he was 1-10 when he got shit-canned at the end. So not great. And 92, it's not great either. He is two, eight, and one. And that's when he was there? That's Barrett's there. Wow. He's playing at that point.
Starting point is 00:11:56 We don't have stats on Barrett because he's a center. He's an offensive lineman. He blocked some people that year. He blocked them. A shitload of them. Once we get into the NFL, we'll talk about how his quarterback did. Because I feel like that's... If the quarterback's shit, it doesn't matter how the center is.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But the center helps the quarterback. So we're going to do it that way. Just to have a stat for something. And it was... Oh, we'll get into all the quarterbacks. We'll get into all the quarterbacks. Because they're pretty comedic. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:19 There's some funny shit in the quarterbacks. Oh, yeah. So Rich Gannon comes along. Yeah, that's who it was, Gannon. It was bad times for that. I wish... So who was the So Rich Gannon comes along. Yeah, that's who it was, Gannon. It was bad times for that. I wish. So who was the quarterback when Gannon, did Gannon go out and somebody else came in after him that Gannon was in like a wheelchair or some shit?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Gannon was in a wheelchair at the end of this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember. Shit, I don't remember now. I got booed in a bar for wishing somebody else to be put in a wheelchair sat right next to him. Well, that's all right, though. Loudly. I was drunk.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I was very loud. And I just wanted to see an injury. That's what I was looking for. That's what happens when you get drunk. You want to see injuries. I wanted to see a compound fracture. He's out just hammered looking for injuries. Praying for plane crashes and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Sticking his heads in people's doors. Anybody injured in here? No? Okay. I'm just leaving. Okay. Just if they were black and silver. At that point in my life, I didn't even give a fuck about the Chiefs or Chargers.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It was just so much hatred focused right on the Raiders. Broncos fan, it's understandable. 1993 TCU team. A little better, but again, not terrific. Four and seven. Okay. Not great. Tacked on another win. Tacked on another win.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And if you look at these, this is like dark days, too. And you look at all the scores, it's like, God, this is sad. Yeah. It's just like, these look like shit, boring games. Yeah. And just in the Texas. Probably were. So bad.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Not Texas. Just awful. On turf. Watching your team get the Texas. They probably were. So bad. In the hot Texas. Just awful. On turf. Watching your team get the shit kicked out of them. Awful, man. The worst. 1994 TCU, shit gets better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It gets a little bit better. They're 7-5 that year. Oh, that's good. That's a damn powerhouse compared to what they've been. This is Coach Pat Sullivan's best season as a coach. It really is. They go all the way to the Independence Bowl. They go to a bowl that year.
Starting point is 00:14:08 They got a bowl at 7 and 5? 7 and 5, yeah. There's like 85 bowls. You got to take what you can get. Winning record, jump on board. But the Independence, isn't that a good one? No, it's not. That's not a good one?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Back then, it was the Poulan Weedeater Independence Bowl. Never mind. So that's not a good bowl, no. You got a bowl that's sponsored by fucking lawn equipment. If your bowl is sponsored by anything that is currently found in your shed, that's not a good bowl. I'll just say that. That's the rule. Here's a Roundup Bowl.
Starting point is 00:14:35 They absolutely have the Roundup Bowl, 100%. That lets you know how much of that shit is being sold. It's awful. Here's a Toro Leaf Blower Bowl. There's a Toro something bowl. There is one. You name a product, there's a goddamn bowl for it, especially if it has anything to do with a lawn or a yard or there's a Scots turf builder bowl or some shit.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I was just going to say, you know there is because there's turf, of course. You know it. There's a Scots. So sad. So sad. There's a weed and feed bowl. Jesus. I could see that.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah. Well, yeah. Not everyone can be the sugar bowl. Not everybody gets to be the T Weed and Feed Bowl. Jesus. I could see that. Yeah. Well, yeah. Not everyone can be the Sugar Bowl. Not everybody gets to be the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. That's right. That's fucking amazing. The Poulon Weedeater Independence Bowl. Awful.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That sounds terrible. They play Virginia in that game, and they lose 20 to 10. Jesus Christ. Can't quite get anything going. But during that season, it's a good season for TCU. Barrett has a couple of bumps in the road, we'll say, that year. In 1994, while he's at school during the season, he's found disoriented, wandering around an auto dealership parking lot.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Uh-oh. Just wandering. Drunk? Yeah. No. Just disoriented. Like he's sleepwalking? He just didn't know what was going on.
Starting point is 00:15:48 What the fuck? He's wandering around a parking lot. They ask him, you know, what are you doing? He doesn't know why he's there. He doesn't understand what's going on. He doesn't get it. He's just disoriented. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:15:57 They don't know what's going on, so they hospitalize him, obviously. They're like, what the fuck is wrong with Barrett? He's losing his shit. Why is this giant man wandering around the car? I'm just like, what the fuck is wrong with Barrett? He's losing his shit. Why is this giant man wandering around the car? I'm like, what's he doing out there? Send Bob out. See if he wants to look at that SUV. See, no, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:16:12 He doesn't even know why he's here. Oh, shit. Lock the doors. Lock the doors. Shut that shit now. Shut it down. Shut it down. We're closed.
Starting point is 00:16:18 We're scared here. Signs say closed. Signs say closed. We go. You go. So he's hospitalized and eventually treated for depression. He's treated for depression, and we're going to find out that for a long time they think depression is his problem, and it's not. No.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Partially, but it's not his problem 100%. But they still, that's his, you know, treated for depression. The team's like, I guess he's okay. He goes back out, and, you know, they play in the weed eater bowl, and that is what it is. So he's a good center, though, in college. He's touted as a very good center. And how many good centers come out every year? Not a lot.
Starting point is 00:16:55 If you're a good center, you're going decent in the draft. So we go to April 22, 1995. That is the NFL draft. It's held April 22, Aprilrd. It's the Paramount Theater at Madison Square Garden, New York City. You know it, man. This was, by the way, the Raiders were
Starting point is 00:17:13 going to be in 95 for the 95 season relocated to Oakland. So this is their last season. They're drafting for their last season in Los Angeles. They went from Oakland to LA and then back to Oakland again. This was also a supplemental draft in this one because of Carolina and Jacksonville were expansion teams coming in that year.
Starting point is 00:17:34 The Panthers, what they did is they had an expansion draft. The Jaguars got to pick first and the Panthers got to pick second. And then they did the real draft. So they flip-flopped them. So that's the way it worked here. The Panthers, anyway, they end up trading their No. 1 pick to the Cincinnati Bengals for the fifth overall pick and a fourth pick and a second-round pick. So that's good when you're building a team.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You can do that. The Panthers, though, get stripped of two later picks for improperly recruiting Dom Capers as their head coach. Really? Yeah, they were doing some shady shit. He was Pittsburgh's defensive coordinator at the time, and they stole him. They did some tampering where they shouldn't have. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:18:08 So they got fine draft picks. So it happens. Did they end up getting Dom? Dom Capers, yeah. Yeah. I didn't know he was their head coach. Yeah, they got him. He's now in Green Bay, right?
Starting point is 00:18:18 I believe so. Capers was just, Christ, he's been around so much. I believe he's with Green Bay now. Anyway, this draft is the second time in NFL history that two Hall of Fame players are selected by the same team in the same round. Really? Is that amazing or what? That is incredible. For who?
Starting point is 00:18:37 The other being the Bears in the 65 draft. I think they got, was it Butkus and Sayers in the first round, I want to say. These first two, those picks in this one are Warren Sapp and Derek Brooks of the Tampa Bay Bucs. Taken number 12 and number 28, respectively, overall. That's pretty amazing. It is. No, it's pretty wild. It's pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And this is back to, God, seeing a 95 draft is like, just takes me back so much to see these guys. How many other Hall of Famers were in the first round? In the first round? Well, let's look. We have Kajana Carter was the number one overall pick, a shit running back from Penn State. That's too bad. I want to say he blew out his knee in like the second preseason game.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And he ended up coming back, but he was never the same. I mean, it exploded. He was done. First or second preseason game. It was, yeah, the number one overall pick. Jacksonville picked Tony Buscelli, number second, who I think was playing until two years ago. Still, literally, I think he was still playing. And he's a Hall of Famer. Houston, at the time, going to Tennessee later, the Tennessee Titans, they take Steve McNair at number three.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Did I ever tell that story on here? Which one? So, Steve McNair, everybody knows what happened to him. He got shot by his girlfriend. By his mistress. Yeah, by his, yeah. So I live in a neighborhood in Phoenix where there is, I'm in a gated community in way West Valley,
Starting point is 00:19:56 and my kid, there's a park there. I'm playing with my kids at the park maybe five years ago, maybe four years ago, whatever. It doesn't matter. It was a few years ago is the point. And a lady walks up with her child and is playing on the park as well. And the kid is about the same age as my son. And they're just playing, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And I just casually am talking to the lady. And I told her, my name is Jimmy. And I shook her hand. And she gave me her first and last name, which was the most strange thing. And I was like, are you Southern? She was like, yeah. And I was like, that's very proper to give your first and last name. And I was like, I you Southern? She was like, yeah. And I was like, that's very proper to give like your first and last name. And I was like, I'm Jimmy Wissman, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And then she was like, oh. And then I stood there for a second. And then the name McNair rang in my head. Yeah. And I was like, for whatever dumb fucking reason, I was just like, any relation to Steve? And I went, just like a giggle. Yeah. And like she wouldn't even, you're thinking she's not even going to know who Steve McNair is.
Starting point is 00:20:44 She's going to have no fucking idea. And she goes, that's my brother-in-law. And I was like, well, I got to go. I'll see you. I'll see youiggle. Yeah. Like she wouldn't even, you're thinking she's not even going to see McNair. She's going to have no fucking idea. She goes, that's my brother-in-law. And I was like, well, I got to go. I'll see you. I'll see you later. Okay. I am not talking about this any longer. Don't talk about that, dead guy.
Starting point is 00:20:52 This is fucking awkward. That's funny as hell. I am so sorry. It was her, I believe it's her husband's brother. Oh, Jesus Christ. It's so fucking horrible. That's so, yeah. Tragedy touched you at the park.
Starting point is 00:21:02 My point is that foot and mouth disease did not begin at podcasting. Too bad we weren't doing the show. You could have got some inside info. We don't have it. Could have really researched it up good for you. Could have given you a little recorder. You could have got me some info. Can I ask you some questions, mister?
Starting point is 00:21:17 I got a few. So, you know, what, like three gunshot wounds? What are you talking about? What are we looking at? So there's like pictures of the crime scene or anything just hanging out. Did anybody ever think it was an accident? Ever? How long were they fucking for?
Starting point is 00:21:30 God. That's great. Carolina takes Kerry Collins as their big future whatever the fuck. He played for 20 damn years too. But a lot of guys like Kyle Brady who played forever played forever jj stokes warren sap yeah this first round is filled with people uh napoleon kaufman the raiders took wow i love that little shit yeah he was great in game day 97 on playstation he's so big for his size he was yeah he's a but he was so nasty and yeah so that get fast he could cut that game day 98 the raiders
Starting point is 00:22:01 had jeff george a quarterback slinging that shit down the field to Tim Brown and him at running back. That was a great team to play with on that game for PlayStation. I said big for his size. I meant he was short but stocky. Oh, yeah. That's my point. He had a great story, too. Because it sounded stupid.
Starting point is 00:22:13 He had a great story, too. He had like eight brothers and sisters. Really? And his parents died, and he took care of all of them. How about that? From the time he was a kid. Like some crazy-ass story. He's a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Successful fella. Rashan Salam, who was terrible. He was the Heisman Trophy winner from the year before, running back with the Bears, and he was awful. Yeah, not great. Derek Brooks taken. So there's some good people taken in the first round. But in the second round, pick number 49, the Oakland, soon to be Oakland, now Los Angeles Raiders, take Barrett after taking Napoleon Kaufman in the first round.
Starting point is 00:22:44 They could have had, with that pick, the No. 60 pick in that round, they could have had Cordell Stewart, which the Steelers took. Round three, the Patriots take Curtis Martin, who's a Hall of Famer. And then all the way in round six, a little guy you might have heard of named Terrell Davis to the Broncos. How about that? That other guy was a great story. His story is so fascinating.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And he's not in the Hall of Fame somehow, that guy. He is now. He got in this year. Now they finally put him in good because that's ridiculous. He was great. His brother went to prison. His brother was like his biggest fan, his biggest cheerleader. His brother went to prison the year he got drafted and then got out the year that he
Starting point is 00:23:20 fucking blew out his knee. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Never got to see him play it down in his life. That's terrible, man. That's a fucking bummer bummer that's hilarious his brother was his biggest fan he was a i guess a piece of shit because he went to prison but well yeah who knows wasn't he got me got denver two rings who knows what happened yeah we're in here so he goes to he goes to la at the time the 95 raiders here they're eight and eight uh now quarterbacks we'll get into how they did uh
Starting point is 00:23:44 jeff hostetler is the starting quarterback, if you remember Jeff Hostetler. Now, I love Jeff Hostetler because he came in, filled in for Phil Simms and beat Buffalo in the Super Bowl with his mustache and his goofy face mask. God, he didn't have a quarterback body either. He's very thin with big, stupid shoulder pads and a mustache and a Wilford Brimley sitting right on his lip and a goofy face mask. He was so goofy but damn it he was tough. He looked like Don Beebe behind Under Center. He kind of did. Don Beebe with a big mustache.
Starting point is 00:24:14 That's what he looked like. He started 11 games for him. Vince Evans started three games. You remember Vince Evans? Vince Evans was like a 43 year old black guy they had for some reason. Really? He was like 43 years old. It doesn't matter he's black but he was like a 43-year-old black guy they had for some reason. He was like 43 years old. It doesn't matter. He's black.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But he was like 43 years old. Yeah. And it was like, why is he out there? Why are you signing this guy? He was terrible, too. It wasn't like, I don't know what it is, if he was friends with Al Davis or they just liked him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Or I don't know if he did some accounting on the side behind the scenes or what. But they kept him on there. Maybe Al Davis, like Trading Places, had some bet with somebody. I bet you I can make that black guy starting quarterback. Geez. The one who's like 43? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I bet you I can make him starting quarterback and ruin Jeff Hossett. Yeah. Take him. So that's what happened. So he does. Vince Evans starts three games. And then, oh, man, two games started by one of the Billy Joes. Billy Joe Hobart it is this time.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Do you remember that? I remember the last name Hobart. Mid-90s, it was two Billy Joes that played professional quarterback in America. Billy Joe Hobart and Billy Joe Tolliver. It was a dark time for America. It really was. Billy Joe Tolliver for the Chargers. Billy Joe Hobart here.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Barrett plays in all 16 games. Starts none yet. He's a rookie. In the same fucking conference. In the same conference, man. It's crazy. Too many Billy Joes. Too many rookie fucking conference in the same conference man it's crazy yeah right too too many billy joe many billy joe's in the afc billy joe's and so there might have been a billy joe versus billy joe game which is disturbing in the 20th century that's the 20th century two dudes named billy joe are taking wow uh it's not a high school game in alabama for christ's sake uh he plays in 16 games barrett doesn't start any he's all special teams because he's a rookie.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Long snapper? Center's one of those teams. I'm not sure if he was long snapping or not, but center is one of those. That's very specialized. Center's one of those things where you don't just throw a guy in. You want to make sure he can do it and learn the playbook and all that sort of thing. Like a quarterback. You don't want just to throw the rookie in game one.
Starting point is 00:26:00 To go from height to guard is tough. It is. From actual movement of the ball to go straight up with your hands, that's unbelievable. And you know how a lot of the guys do at the centers? Their goal to it is they snap and then they jump up with their heads so they can lead with their head and make that initial blow because it takes them a while to get their hands up because it's on the ball.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So that's why you have Mike Webster for the Steelers who had complete pudding brain by the time he was 45 and died of it. And that's what we're going to find out with him also. Now, 1996 here. We'll get into the season in a second. But at one point, he is found, Barrett is found disoriented, wandering around the team hotel. Again with the disorientation. Just wandering around the team hotel, didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:26:44 He exhibited odd behavior. It was a road trip to Denver. They're in Denver. He's exhibiting odd behavior the whole time. And then he was disoriented wandering around the hotel. And they were like, should we do something about Barrett? They were all kind of talking about it. And then what he ends up doing, and this is weird shit.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Imagine you're this guy. There's a columnist there. Just a writer. And this is weird shit. Imagine you're this guy. There's a columnist there. Yeah. Just a writer.
Starting point is 00:27:10 He follows the writer to the guy's hotel room and stands at his door staring off into space. What? Not even focused on the door. What? Like he's like angry. Yeah. Just staring off into space like he's considering what condiment to eat the guy with. Weird.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Like it is disturbing. Imagine looking out your peephole and seeing a 320-pound monster. Just counting the ceiling tiles. Disoriented, just looking around like Abdul the Butcher or something. You'd be like, what the fuck is happening? What is this shit? What is happening? So they're a little concerned about him. And then later on, he misses his connecting flight home in Salt Lake City. Why the fuck are NFL teams making connecting flights, number one?
Starting point is 00:27:42 That's a good point. They're not coming from Japan. You guys all have Denver. You should all be on the same flight. I think Al Davis is cheap. I really think he was like, it's going to cost 10% less to stop in Salt Lake city. Those guys can fucking wait another hour.
Starting point is 00:27:55 You know, he said that Denver to LA, you know, they're stopping in Salt Lake. It's like a 45 minute flight. It's not even really on the way per se either. It's just kind of like, it's like you're going New York to Chicago and you're going to stop in Baltimore. It's a weird...
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's like a puddle jump. It makes no sense. It's so quick. It makes no sense. It's like you go up, you go down, and then you got to fucking climb to fucking LA. That's so crazy. So right away, it's not a charter flight. No.
Starting point is 00:28:18 This is all coach. They got these guys flying fucking coach stopping over in Salt Lake City. This is economy shit. Come on, guys. Make sure. No, no. Leave your carry-on bags. This is economy shit. Come on, guys. Make sure. No, no. Don't. Leave your carry-on bags.
Starting point is 00:28:26 We're going to get back on the plane. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Who's the team mom that has to go get everybody out of the duty-free shop to get them back on the fucking plane? Come on, guys. We're getting back on the plane. So he misses this flight home to Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 00:28:42 He goes to a restaurant and orders a meal without having any money. What? Yeah, he has no money on him. He doesn't know where his stuff is. Does nobody know this? He'll get disoriented. At this point, they don't know this happened. They don't know about the thing in college, really. He's not telling anybody shit. The thing in college, they might have said, oh, he had an incident. He was dehydrated or something, and then we put him in. He was fine
Starting point is 00:29:00 after that. Who knows? You know what I mean? And these teams, as we've seen, they look past a lot of shit. They'll rationalize a lot. Especially then. Especially in the 90s. But they're going to rationalize a lot to get a guy on the team like, but we can do that. At that point, he's sent to
Starting point is 00:29:16 jail. He had, wow, his wife, Marissa, who we'll get into also plenty in this episode, this poor woman. God, she's a saint too, this lady. She goes through a lot of shit. A lot of shit and she sticks with this guy for a while and tries to make it work.
Starting point is 00:29:32 She comes to pick him up and he doesn't even recognize her. He has trouble recognizing his own wife. That's how off the deep end he is mentally. He's hospitalized in the East Bay over there in Oakland for almost two weeks after this. They're just trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. This is like pre-dementia shit. Yeah, they're trying to figure out what the hell is going on.
Starting point is 00:29:51 He misses two games also that year because of this. What ends up happening is they end up saying that team officials come out and say that at the time it was a chemical imbalance triggered by the flu and an adverse reaction to medications. Weird. That's their excuse for him. He's fine. That's what I said. Like they might have, when he's wandering around the parking lot, they've been like, he's dehydrated.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It's fine. That's what they say. Well, chemical imbalance because he had the flu and then the meds. We didn't give him the right meds. He took the NyQuil. Have you ever taken NyQuil and tried to stay up? It happens. You get a little wacky.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Sometimes it gets fucked up. Sometimes you don't recognize your wife and you stalk columnists. It happens. He took an Ambien and didn't lay down. Have you ever done that shit? Yeah, you can wonder. That's fucking crazy. And you'll stare into space outside of a columnist's door.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah, Ambien. That's a commercial for Ambien. Stare into space outside of a columnist's door. I dare you to take it and try to stay awake. Do it. That's how you do it. That's how you sell shit you dare people to take. I dare you to do this.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I dare you. Fucking do it. So the Raiders that year uh barrett starts 14 games he misses two because of the hospital hospitalization and all that they're under coach mike white here uh who didn't he was a shit coach too he does not last very long they go seven and nine this year that's not great that's not great and down from eight and eight last year uh hostetler is the starting quarterback. He throws 23 touchdowns and only 14 picks, so that's not bad. Wait, 14 picks?
Starting point is 00:31:09 14 picks and 23 touchdowns. That's not great. 23 touchdowns, though, with that it's not terrific, but it's not terrible. That's a 7-9 team. That's what I was going to say. 7-9 numbers. If you reverse it, it's about that. Billy Joe Hobart signs in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And they're so shitty that they even signed David Klingler to come in, and he plays one game. Holy shit. Former Cincinnati Bengal draft pick in, I think, the 92 draft, who was just an utter, utter human shit man. Like a snowman, but made of shit. Made of poo. Yeah. Kids balled up poo and just made David Klingler and stuck a football in his hand. And somebody drafted him in the first round. And threw a on it throw a helmet on that shit man he's going
Starting point is 00:31:49 in the first round first round draft pick that's cincy though cincy can really ruin a draft we know the bengals they know how to draft boy the bengals can do one thing it's draft buddy especially quarterbacks you bet oh they don't have a long line of embarrassment to killie smith holy shit wow are they terrible at drafting quarterbacks they drafted bet. They don't have a long line of embarrassments, Achilles Smith. Holy shit. Wow, are they terrible at drafting quarterbacks. They drafted Carson Palmer. They did. And he's decent.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And they drafted Boomer Esiason 20 years earlier. So that's it. Those are the two that are halfway decent. Outside of that, it's go fuck yourself, Cincy. Definitely. 97. By the way, there's a shitload of crime coming and some wild shit coming. So we'll be done with football very soon.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Right. 97 Raiders, their new coach, Coach Joe Bugle. Oh, yeah. Cardinal coach. But just looks like a sad old man. An angry old man. Who's been sitting at an outdoor bar for probably weeks. Drinking and being in the sun.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And being angry. And every now and again, they forget his order and he just sits there steaming. He looks like the type of guy... He got so red. Oh, that's what I mean. He was so red. He looks like the type of guy
Starting point is 00:32:51 who is playing a casual game of golf with a friend and throws his whole bag of clubs into the woods and says, fuck it, and leaves. And they're like, where did Joe go? Where did Joe go? He's gone.
Starting point is 00:33:01 He's just driving away. He has a red Corvette and somehow his face is redder than his car. It's true, man. He was. He was that red. You're totally right. He looked like a pig's gone. He's just driving away. He has a red Corvette, and somehow his face is redder than his car. It's true, man. He was. He was that red. You're totally right. He looked like a pig's dick.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Dude, it was ridiculous. And also, his coaching skills were that of a pig's dick. Yes. A pig's dick could have coached a team possibly to a better than a 4-12 record, which is what they had that year. Good God. Rock fucking bottom for the Raiders. Barrett starts all 16 games, though.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Yeah. He does fine. And Jeff George comes in to play quarterback Jeff George is one of those guys who is known as like one of the biggest assholes in league history he's University of Illinois drafted by the Colts I believe number one overall and was a complete disaster was a jerk to people in addition to being
Starting point is 00:33:40 terrible but has one of the top five arms in the history of football so he's the type of guy he kept getting chances because you take him out and you talk to him and be like, God, that guy's a jerk. And then you go out on the field and you go, whoa, look at that ball. How did he just throw that 70 yards? That's ridiculous. He threw lasers.
Starting point is 00:33:55 He had like an old, not quite, but an almost like a Dan Marino type arm where he threw these fucking laser BBs. And it goes right where he wants it to be. And he was great. If you could just get him to not be an asshole for five seconds an arrogant guy for a guy with the wispiest kevin costner hair i've ever seen in my life he had a lot of confidence in him but in the early 90s that hair will get you that confidence like 26 years old and he had half his hair maybe and he was confident get the fuck out of here you should be embarrassed. So this is the time, too.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You said 94 or 95? This is 97. 97. Okay, so this is a team that their fan base are fucking dicks. They're dicks. They're still dicks, but they're big dicks then. It's because of this stretch of time, I believe. Oh, they were assholes.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Their team was fucking amazing through the late 70s, early 80s. Right, late 70s, early 80s. Right. Late 70s, early 80s. They were one of the best teams in football. I swear to God, it was Todd Marinovich that made them snap. It was Jay Schrader, Todd Marinovich. Jay Schrader did it. It was that time. What are we fucking doing?
Starting point is 00:34:54 What the fuck? And then they stunk for fucking 15 years. Colt Jim Plunkett off a recliner. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. Get Jay Schrader's blonde ass out of here. I swear that was it. By the way, we will do Todd Marinovich this football season.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I promise you that. I have a lot of pre-research done on that. He's one of these ones that takes longer than a week to do. Who was their wide receiver, too? He's going to be a Rick Bowe. Tim Brown. No, no, the white one. He's a mean, salty fucking man now.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Who are we talking about? The Raiders wide receiver. Raiders wide receiver. A white when? In the 80s? 70s, 80s, yeah. Well, 70s, Bolitnikoff was a nasty one. He is fucking
Starting point is 00:35:29 angry with how old he is. Oh, he is. He's not happy. I met him at the Hall of Fame and I just shouted, how'd you catch all those balls? And he turns around and goes, with my hands! Jesus Christ, old man, calm down. I think he was thinking you were bringing up the stickum incident
Starting point is 00:35:46 oh maybe so I think he thought you were fucking with my hands not the stickum cunt face that's hilarious I didn't even think about that all this time you're like what a dick you were being the dick he's walking down a hallway
Starting point is 00:36:01 and he's walking towards me and I think he noticed that I was kind of beelining towards him. I'm sure. And then he just made like a solid right, like a very quick right for a guy in his 70s. A quick right. A professional wide receiver kind of cut right there. Yeah, he definitely did a down and out. And I just, because now he's walking away and I'm not going to run after this fucking old man.
Starting point is 00:36:23 That's walking with handlers, by the way. He's still going to turn around and beat you up probably. So I just shouted, hey Fred, how'd you catch all those balls? And he goes, with my hands. The angriest with my hands ever. He gave you a John Matusik with my hands. And I just stopped in my tracks and turned and walked the other way.
Starting point is 00:36:38 By the way, I had to go the other way because Boomer, not Boomer Esiason, Boomer from fucking ESPN was having a conversation with my girlfriend's tits at the time. Oh, Jesus. Staring directly at them and talking to her. Ironically.
Starting point is 00:36:54 He was loaded drunk. Coincidentally, Chris Berman, better hair than Jeff George. That's the funny part. Better and more hair than Chris than Jeff George. That's amazing, isn't it? I'm telling you. Staring right at my girlfriend's tits.
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Starting point is 00:38:55 Now back to the show. So back to Jeff George here for quarterbacks. He, that year, starts all 16 games, throws 29 touchdowns, 9 picks. That's nasty. And he was so good in game day 98 on place. 9. 29 and 9. That's respectable numbers.
Starting point is 00:39:14 3 to 1 ratio. That is top notch. What did the record go? They were 4 and 12. How does that happen? He had, I want to say, almost 4,000 yards passing, too, because that's all they could do was pass. They had a terrible defense, and Jeff George was a complete asshole, too. So it wasn't—he was just, I got mine.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I got my numbers. But he threw, like, 17 touchdowns in one game, and then a few in the next, and that's it. I got my numbers. We'll lose fucking 41-31. Not my fault. I had three touchdowns today. I had 300 yards. I looked good.
Starting point is 00:39:40 That's why nobody—that's why it was hard for him to keep jobs. All right. 98 Raiders, they get smart. They shit-can red-faced Joe Bugle over here and take a hike back to the golf course with you, and they hire John Gruden. Smart move. John Gruden was an up-and-comer, and
Starting point is 00:39:56 he was like the next gonna-be hot coach, and they ended up getting him. As we know, John Gruden is still an announcer. He's great. He's great. He talks fucking weird. He says weird shit, but he's a great announcer. He's great. He's great. He talks fucking weird. He says weird shit. Yeah. But he's a great announcer.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He hasn't coached in, what, 10 years? I think. Probably. I want to say 10 years. And every single year, he's the biggest candidate in coaching. Every season, they're like, oh, they're going to obviously offer to Gruden. Who lost their coach? Somebody get Gruden.
Starting point is 00:40:21 We need him. Somebody get Gruden. They go 8-8 this year. They're rebuilding. That's fine. Robbins, Barrett Robbinsbins again, starts all 16 games. That's two years in a row. Solid over the center.
Starting point is 00:40:30 If you don't have to worry about your center position, that's locked up. That's great. That's terrific. Center, quarterback all taken care of. We're great. Unfortunately, quarterback wasn't so taken care of this year. Gruden's trying to find a solution. Jeff George starts seven games.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Wade Wilson starts three games. The ex-Viking disaster of a quarter. I hated Wade Wilson. He was so shitty. Was he number 12 on the Vikings? I want to say I hated him. I can't remember. No, it wasn't 10 because that was Tarkington. It was 12. Or maybe 11, actually. They also had Donald Hollis
Starting point is 00:41:00 start six games. By the way, isn't Wade Wilson, isn't that the name of Deadpool's character? I don't know. I don't like comic book shit at all. So I'm not positive. I'm going to Google it but I'm pretty sure that's his name. Donald, he's an awful quarterback. They named him after a terrible quarterback, which is not a great
Starting point is 00:41:16 idea. Wade, he would have been named after him, I believe. So Donald Hollis starts six games. It is Wade Wilson. That's hilarious. They named him after that. Is there one named Donald Hollis starts six games. It is Wade Wilson. That's hilarious. They named him after that. Is there one named Donald Hollis? No. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:41:29 He started six games. Donald Hollis had 10 touchdowns, 16 picks in six games. Ouch. That is brutal. And it kind of shows it's kind of not his fault. He hadn't played in the NFL since 1994. And they're throwing him in five years later and expect him to start? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I'm impressed he threw 10 touchdown passes in that amount of time, honestly. So it's a little bit of a rebuilding process. 1999, they go 8-8 again. 16 starts for Barrett Robbins again. So that's three years in a row that he started every goddamn game. That guy is money. He's solid in the middle. Barrett is a rock right now.
Starting point is 00:42:06 He's stable. Let's use the word stable now because we're never going to use it later. That's the last thing we're going to use. Even in terms of medically, he's never stable. Donald Hollis' nickname was quarterback by default. There you go. I think everybody in his position. That's his fucking empire.
Starting point is 00:42:23 That's his legacy. Terrible. Donald Hollis means right there. I tried to Google Donald Hollis superhero, and it just said quarterback by default. Shit quarterback by default. When you have nobody else, you're like, fuck. All right, get him in there. Fine.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's fine. Has Bolitnikoff looking. Is he still limping? Maybe he could play quarterback for us, even though he never played quarterback. Rich Gannon comes in that year over from Kansas City, and Rich Gannon starts all 16 games, so he stabilized the quarterback position. 24 touchdowns, 14
Starting point is 00:42:52 interceptions, which for that team, it's fine. They go 8-8. Barrett this year scores some money. He signs a contract extension this year, because fuck, three years in a row of 16 games started, he's doing great. They give him a five-year extension they agree to pay him an average over the contract of 3.7 million dollars a year wow 3.7 million over five years so he went and got yeah he went and got i
Starting point is 00:43:16 want to say it was 18 million 18 5 over five years or something like that which is phenomenal for this guy he's a center from tcu a multi-millionaire now that's terrific for this guy. He's a center from TCU. A multimillionaire now. That's terrific for this guy, man. Good for you, Barrett. All you got to do is fucking hike the ball to Gannon and fucking stand back and keep people. Call the protections and do your goddamn job. Year 2000, the Raiders go 12-4 now. There you go.
Starting point is 00:43:41 12-4. They win the AFC West, so they win their division. Barrett, again, 16 starts. He's earning his money still. What year is this? This is 2000. Ouch. This is the year after Denver beat the Falcons and had Bobby Brister.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yes, and then the Raiders come back. Raiders are good, and Bobby Brister is your quarterback. You must have been losing your fucking mind. This is why I was wishing for plane crashes, because of this shit. I don't blame you. So 16 starts for Barrett, like we said. Rich Gannon starts all 16 games, 28 touchdowns, 11 picks, which is doing great. They go to the playoffs, obviously, because they won their division.
Starting point is 00:44:18 They beat Miami 27-0 in the first round in the wild card, which, damn, they stomped Miami. That was when the AFC East was weak. This is – Belichick just gets there that year, I believe. So that's – Jets, Miami, Patriots. Jets, Miami, Patriots. Not terrific, man. Who's the fourth one?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Buffalo. Buffalo. Yeah, that was – God, Jesus. That was – That's bad. It's still not great. No, but at least now – It's still not super competitive.
Starting point is 00:44:43 You have one team that's always in the Super Bowl. It's there, so it makes them look better. And the Jets are good every five years. So they're not good, but they're 10-6. And this is how competitive the AFC West was then. Oh, it was great. The AFC entirely, I mean. Yeah, they were tough.
Starting point is 00:44:57 At 12-4, you're a wild card. Well, yeah, they had to play in the wild card. Well, they weren't a wild card. They won the division, but they had to play in the wild card because other teams were 13-3 or whatever. That's why the AFC was fucking dominant. Definitely. So they beat Miami then. Wait until you get to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:45:14 We'll see. Then they go to Baltimore. Baltimore comes to their place, actually, and they lose 16-3 to Baltimore that year. Baltimore had that stifling defense, and yeah, they were rough. That was the year Baltimore was rugged. That was when they won the Super Bowl that year. You lose to the eventual Super Bowl winner. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Whatever, it happens. March 7, 2001, he and his wife Marissa have a daughter. Uh-oh. Things are looking good. He's got a wife, a family. He's got $18 million coming to him. Life is good. Daughter's name is Marley. 2001, Raiders go 10-6. They win the
Starting point is 00:45:49 NFC West. Barrett only plays in two games. He starts both. He had an injury that year. It's nothing crazy. He just had an injury and was hurt all year. Starts both the games and then gets hurt. Gannon plays all 16 games a quarterback. 27 touchdowns, 9 picks.
Starting point is 00:46:08 So very consistent, I would say, from last year was 28 and 11. Damn nice. They beat the Jets 38-24 in the wild card game. And then the snowy, snowy, snowy New England Patriots game. The tuck rule. This is the tuck rule game. This is the game. Everybody knows who Tom Brady is. You betcha.
Starting point is 00:46:22 This is the game that made Tom Brady famous. He was a shitheel rookie quarterback who got fucking lucky when refs interpreted a call their own way and stopped an obvious fumble and changed the course of history basically in the snow. And I am not a Raiders fan, but I hate the fucking Patriots. The only team I dislike more than the Patriots is the Cardinals. So I will root for anyone against the Patriots is the Cardinals. So I will root for anyone against the Patriots except the Cardinals. I'll root for the AFC in every Super Bowl unless it's the Raiders or Patriots. That's, yeah, Patriots
Starting point is 00:46:53 literally, the Cardinals are the only team I ever root for the Patriots against. That's it. Other than that, no, not happening. So yeah, they do all this. So they lose this. Patriots end up winning that game 16-3 because of that poor shit decision and go on to win the Super Bowl, the whole deal. That's when Tom Brady begins his legacy.
Starting point is 00:47:14 That is the history of the whole thing. That's exactly right. Tom Brady, Belichick, everybody. Drew Bledsoe who? Of course, Drew Bledsoe. He's over there like, wasn't I like a number one pick what just happened what's going on here and who's that eighth round motherfucker yeah why just got lucky shit with the refs calling a fucking stupid rule yeah what would have happened if that didn't happen i don't know who knows what would have happened i can't imagine
Starting point is 00:47:39 the next year it might have been an open competition you know what i mean for quarterback maybe brady doesn't get in and who knows, you know? Maybe they don't beat the fucking Atlanta Falcons. Yeah. That was the... All right, moving on. So 2002, Al Davis, as we know, remember we were saying he's notoriously cheap with the stopover flights.
Starting point is 00:47:59 He also is notoriously the worst paying owner to coaches in the league. Really? He will not pay coaches shit. He just does not believe in paying coaches. Well, no, because they don't call the plays anyway. He calls them from up in his fucking studio up there. Exactly. And that Gruden, same thing.
Starting point is 00:48:13 He did not want to pay Gruden, and Gruden wanted to get paid. Of course. And he was making waves, because fuck yeah. We've just gone to the playoffs twice. Yeah, just turn your team around. I'm getting more than minimum wage here for this. So rather than pay Gruden, he trades him. He trades him.
Starting point is 00:48:27 He traded a coach. He traded a coach to Tampa Bay, which is exactly the same thing that happened two years earlier. That's how the Patriots got Bill Belichick. They traded with the Jets for him. Same exact thing. Because it was a mix-up with who they hired. It was a huge mess like the Jets always are because they're a fucking disaster.
Starting point is 00:48:43 My third least favorite team right there. So I'm a Giants fan. What do you want? I didn't realize that that's how Gruden went to Tampa Bay. He got traded there. Gets traded. They end up giving the Bucs, give the Raiders two first round picks, two second round picks and $8 million.
Starting point is 00:48:58 My God. Which is like airfare for stopovers for like three seasons. And I bet you with how cheap that fucker is. I stretched it. I bet you he blew that eight mil. He probably did. Just to throw it in Gruden's face. I got a love about Al Davis.
Starting point is 00:49:13 One thing I love about it, because I love an anti-everything person like that. I love that if there was a vote, there would never be a unanimous vote among the owners because he would vote against it just to be a prick. Fuck you guys. He hated them. They hated him. I love that about him. Well, all the other guys were these old money, whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:29 He was a guy who used to be a player. He used to be a coach. Earned his team. You know what I mean? He's a different kind of guy. And angry. And angry because that's what he is. He's like, I'm a fucking street guy.
Starting point is 00:49:38 That's his whole thing. He's one of those guys who's like, I came from the street. What are you talking about? He took that eight mil and paid for that eternal flame out front of fucking the Raiders stadium. Maybe. Just financed his own. He's like, this 8 mil will cover all the gas bill that it's going to take to make that
Starting point is 00:49:53 shit burn. Or maybe he got himself a new Cadillac because he used to drive around. He would drive around in a black Cadillac with dark tents and no license plates. None. And nobody pulled him over. It's illegal as fuck. Because if you see a big giant black Cadillac with blacked out no license plates. None. And nobody pulled them over. It's illegal as fuck. Because if you see a big, giant black Cadillac with blacked-out windows and no plates, that's Al Davis.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Period. So why pull them over? So you know who it is. He's got the plates. It's registered. It's an old white man driving around in Oakland. Don't fuck with him anyway. He's a prick.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And he doesn't feel like having license plates. That guy's not to be fucked with. No, he's crazy. So yeah, Tampa was so desperate they needed somebody. And really smart of them, honestly, to get Gruden because it changed their fate forever. Because they were a laughingstock for 20 goddamn years. 25 years. And it comes from that gay swastbuckler on their helmet.
Starting point is 00:50:35 That's it, man, with his knife in his mouth winking at you. It's like, God, he just looks like, I'll jerk you off right under that table. Don't you even worry about it, buddy. I'll reach right under and tug you. It's like a sweet threat. I'll jerk you off. under that table. Don't you even worry about it, buddy. I'll reach right under and tug you. It's like a sweet threat. I'll jerk you off. Want to try me? I dare you. I swear to God I'll jerk you off.
Starting point is 00:50:52 They hire a new coach who was the offensive coordinator. They hire Bill Callahan. He'll last two seasons and never head coach in the NFL again. He's an offensive coordinator. This Raiders team ruins him. They go 11-5 in 2002. Barrett
Starting point is 00:51:08 starts acting a little weird on the field. A couple of personal fouls that were kind of costly for them. One in a September game against Tennessee when he punched Albert Hainsworth, which was odd. Took a swing at Albert Hainsworth. And then another one, he was
Starting point is 00:51:24 ejected that year in the Baltimore game for kicking Ray Lewis. Really? Yeah, that's ballsy, first of all. Wasn't Hainsworth the one that stomped somebody's fucking head while they were on the ground? Yeah, Hainsworth is a piece of garbage. Hainsworth was a fucking horrible person. And he was the one that teams keep signing him and they cut him because he can't even pass the physical fitness standard. He's a big, fat loser.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, he's too out of shape. Someone gave him $100 million and he just didn't care anymore. And he even said, I got money. I don't give a shit. He just doesn't care. I'll stomp ahead. I don't give a shit. You know what?
Starting point is 00:51:52 If you give me $100 million, I really don't give a shit about much anymore. Talk all the shit you want. I got $100 million. He kicked a guy that was fucking- That was Ndamukong Su. Ndamukong Su you're thinking of. I'm saying- Ainsworth?
Starting point is 00:52:05 No, no. Our boy Barrett. Barrett. He kicked a man that was accused ofukong Su. Ndamukong Su you're thinking of. I'm saying... Ainsworth? No, no. Our boy Barrett. He kicked a man that was accused of stabbing someone. The year before. Six months earlier. He was accused of being a murderer. And he's also nuts. He's got a fucking problem.
Starting point is 00:52:15 He's dangerous. You ever listen to the guy? Just listen to him talk and you know he's got issues. Totally. Rich Gannon, the quarterback, starts all 16 games. 26 touchdowns, 10 picks. Barrett starts all 16 games. Come back strong from the injury, makes the Pro Bowl. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:29 He's a Pro Bowler, Jimmy. Pro Bowl center. AP, first team NFL. First team. First team, Associated Press, NFL. Come on, man. This is going great for him. Divisional playoffs against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:52:42 They stomped the Jets 30-10. AFC championship game against the Titans. And the aforementioned Steve McNair. They beat them 41-24. Wow. The Raiders are going to the Super Bowl. Against who? Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:52:56 You betcha. Can I say one thing, Jimmy? Grace. Grace. There it is. Grace right now. This is where it ends. Before the game is Grace.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Before the game is Grace. That's depressing. It really is. It's even more depressing for him. We'll find out is where it ends. Before the game is Grace. Before the game is Grace. That's depressing. It really is. It's even more depressing for him. Or we'll find out exactly what it is. I almost gave away the star here. Super Bowl versus the Buccaneers and their old coach, John Gruden, which is kind of an interesting matchup.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I remember that being interesting. It's at Qualcomm in San Diego. So beautiful weather. 88.6 million viewers for that. Wow. 88.6. That seems low. It seems low. I don't know if that's U.S. I don't think that. Wow. 88.6. That seems low. It seems low.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I don't know if that's U.S. I don't think that's worldwide. No, it can't be worldwide. Commercial time for that 30-second commercial, 2.1 million bucks for that back then. Which it's more expensive now. Or is it less expensive, actually? I would think it'd be less expensive. I feel like it's a million for 30.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Wow. Not bad. Maybe not. I don't know. I remember the Super Bowl because I was a fucking server at the time. Oh, man. At a, they're not famous, Dave's. I forget. I don't know. I remember the Super Bowl because I was a fucking server at the time. Oh, man. At a, not famous Dave's. I forget.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Something Dave's? Some Dave-ass. I don't know. There's some shit bar. Yeah. And I made a shit load of money. On the Super Bowl. But not on the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:53:57 For serving. Oh, for serving. I made a shit load of money giving people beer at a bar. And I enjoyed it because of the outcome. I watched the game at a guy's house whose whole surrounding area was farmland, and it smelled like shit. He was like one of those new neighborhoods that they're trying to put in the farms, and you couldn't open the windows because the whole house would reek of shit.
Starting point is 00:54:17 And then the guy that was the manager of the bar was never, ever there. He had his assistant manager there like every hour of it that it was open he was always there his name was toby nobody knew his last name he went by toby that's it just his name he's not exactly a one-namer and he he he was a fucking pimp he like a legitimate pimp he would run he would run hoes around town i bet he didn't play any sports he'd have something to talk about with that he He was a fucking... I asked him once because I was a young kid and I wanted to help him. And I wanted to be like, can I drive? Can I just drive him somewhere?
Starting point is 00:54:51 Can I just drop him to their jobs and stuff? The girls? Yeah. I just wanted some sort of money of some sort that I didn't have to serve tables and drunks. And he would not let a 5'7", 5'8", one kid be around girls that are selling their vagina. I would say not. You wouldn't be my first choice either, I gotta say. I'd get a guy like Barrett Robbins, I think, would be my guy.
Starting point is 00:55:13 So at the Super Bowl, the Dixie Chicks sing the national anthem. I remember. The halftime show is Shania Twain, Sting, and No Doubt. You bet. The halftime show concludes with Sting performing Message in a Bottle and then Gwen Stefani comes out in the middle of it. Like, that sounds fucking awful. That just sounds terrible. Marissa
Starting point is 00:55:32 and the kids fly to San Diego to join Barrett three days before the game. He doesn't show up to meet them, which is strange. Your kids and wife are coming in. You should probably go meet them. Doesn't show up at all. They go to the hotel. The family does.
Starting point is 00:55:48 It's a different hotel set apart from the players by themselves. The wife at first just thinks he's being an asshole. She literally is like, why is he being such a jerk and just ignoring me? But looking back on it, she sees it as a buildup to a manic episode, which is his problem. He is very bipolar. Really? And let's find out. This is the first time they find this out, that he's actually bipolar.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And we're not going to find it out for a little bit, but that's what they find out later on. You saw your wife and kids in, and you're in the Super Bowl. Like, you really, that's a moment for your whole family to really bask in it. It is. It is. And, well, she said they spent a Friday evening together and it was super weird. Yeah. They were trying to get to Rodney and Holly Robinson Pete's party. Rodney Pete's place.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Pete and his wife there. They had a I guess Barrett hired a car to take them. Yeah. And it was a Honda Civic. And there was a woman driving who kept getting lost. And so they never got to the party. What? So the Raiders had a curfew of 11 p.m.
Starting point is 00:56:46 So they had to turn around and go drop Barrett off at the place because he had to be back by 11 p.m. So they drop him off. The next morning, it's Saturday morning. It's the family hotel. They call Marissa and they're like, hey, you've seen Barrett at all? No, we don't know where the fuck he is. He never came back.
Starting point is 00:57:02 We don't know where he is. He's gone. Uh-oh. Gone. Absolutely gone. He doesn't come back till he is. He never came back. We don't know where he is. He's gone. Uh-oh. Gone. Absolutely gone. He doesn't come back until Saturday night. He comes back on Saturday night. The Raiders send him to his wife's hotel.
Starting point is 00:57:15 They're like, figure this out, basically. Go with your family or something. And he missed a whole shitload of activities on Saturday. There's tons of walk-through practices, all sorts of, well, no, this is more football related shit. Oh, actual like fucking playbooks. Yeah. They're installing plays and shit like that still in this whole deal here.
Starting point is 00:57:34 What he's doing, he is sitting on the bed, just sitting there flipping through music channels on TV, oblivious to what's going on, has no idea what's going on, doesn't know anything. This is a Saturday night, late at night. Listening to the Eurythmics or some shit. Thinks everything is fine. She asked him if he knew what day it was and whether he knows what he's supposed to be doing.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Do you know what's going on? And he looked confused and didn't know. And she said, it's Sunday. This was Sunday morning. She goes, it's Sunday. It's kind of a big deal. He didn't know what was going on, and he apologized because he thought he missed church. And he's like, I'm sorry, I missed church.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Like, he didn't even know where the fuck he was. Dumb, dumb. We've got a big fucking game today. No clue. He's just flipping through music channels going, oh, my bad, I missed church. Like, why are we in San Diego then? You're not even at home, dipshit. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah, but this whole thing ended up leading to the bipolar diagnosis, which is great. But yeah, his wife was happy, actually, with the diagnosis. She said, quote, I was just throwing my hands up to the sky and saying, hallelujah, at least this will give me an answer to all the things that have been going on. All these disorienting, weird, you know, all these disoriented things. And now it's finally going on. Now we have something to treat. What he was doing Saturday, he went down to Tijuana.
Starting point is 00:58:50 What? He went down to Tijuana. He left the fucking country? He left the country, left his cell phone, left his wallet, left his money, and went to Tijuana. Because he didn't even think. He's just out there. Really, in Tijuana, you don't need money. He was down there celebrating the big Raiders Super Bowl win that they didn't even play yet.
Starting point is 00:59:08 He was celebrating the win. He thought they played the game and they won. Several people down there, friends of his, other people were saying he was like, cheers, everybody. Yeah, we're champs. We won the Super Bowl. Wow. Everyone's like, what's wrong with Barrett, dude? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:59:21 He thought they played already and won. I mean, that was it. And nobody had any fucking panic in them? Then I'd like this guy is fucking uh yeah absolutely back in the states the raiders lose the game 41 28 they did they lose that uh it might have not helped that he wasn't there either because uh rich gannon was sacked a shitload intercepted five times i mean it was a mess he was looked terrible and he a center who was in his groove might have helped him out a lot about that. Yeah. A lot of people blame him for the loss.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Really? They blame Barrett for the loss to this day. How about that? Said if we had our center, this wouldn't have happened. Gannon would have had a better game. Gannon doesn't say that. Gannon is actually a decent guy. Gannon says, quote, I'm not buying that.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Quite honestly, I don't think I was ever mad at Barrett. I just felt frustrated and disappointed, and I felt bad for him that he couldn't enjoy the fruits of his labors. He was supposed to play in the Super Bowl, and he got voted into the Pro Bowl for the first time. He never got to do any of that, which is sad. It really is. He apparently was on medication, and he stopped taking it the week before the Super Bowl. That's all it took. Stopped taking the medication. By Saturday, he's in Tijuana going, we won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:00:31 And by Sunday morning, he thinks he missed church. Sorry, I missed church. So he needs medication. Other teammates were not as nice to him. Other teammates were nasty about it, honestly. Mo Collins, who was a guard and works right next to him on the offensive line said whatever the fuck Rock I love when a statement starts out with whatever the fuck. Whatever the
Starting point is 01:00:52 fuck Rock he came up from under he can stay there. I would welcome him back as a business partner but not as a brother. A brother wouldn't leave you hanging like that. My man. That's rough. Now he didn't know also about the disease or anything like that. He just thought he was being a jerk off and he was being irresponsible,
Starting point is 01:01:08 which, whatever. Taking some vacation time. Now, I love that the guy who wrote this article was kind of like, you know, thought that was shitty that he was ripping him like that when the guy had mental problems. So this guy went up and dug in this Mo Collins past. Oh, no. He said, you quote,
Starting point is 01:01:24 you wonder how Collins is University of Florida teammates felt in 1996 when he was suspended for six games after accepting $500 from an agent. Maybe they didn't view him as much of a brother. A brother wouldn't leave you hanging like that, would he? He even put that in there. A brother wouldn't leave you hanging like that, would he? Took his own quote and jammed it right up his ass. Took his own, right up his cornhole.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I love it. Fuck that. Or $500. That's even worse. That's even worse. Yeah, because you wanted to go out and I don't even know what. 500 bucks? Buy some beer that night and a pair of shoes.
Starting point is 01:01:54 What are you fucking buying for $500? A college kid blows $500 in one night. One night. Another guy, Frank Middleton, who's an offensive lineman, said, quote, If Barrett Robbins comes back next season, I won't. I want to play with people I can rely on. I don't want to go into next year worrying about some cat making it to the game. We're a family.
Starting point is 01:02:11 When crunch time comes and one of your family members doesn't come through, it hurts. He also said, quote, no one is bigger than the team. If someone chooses to do something wrong, that's on him. We feed our family, and he's got to feed his. Once they told us what happened, we picked up and moved on wow you know who the one guy who wasn't a dick about the whole thing besides rich gannon bill romanowski of all fucking people of all people that guy's a huge cunt would be the guy i would think would be like oh fuck that guy he's a dick he actually said are you mad at him do you not want to play with him and he said quote no the guy's got a problem and he has to do what
Starting point is 01:02:44 he has to do the guy has got to get some help. Yeah. He's fine. He said it's whatever. That's a guy on defense, though, that doesn't have to rely on him. He doesn't play next to him. Right. But still, I mean, it's, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:54 That's the difference between today's view of mental illness versus back then. Back then, yeah. And the coaches, they all thought of it as a weakness. Yeah. He's just weak. That's what it was. Now it's like, we need to get that motherfucker some help. Get him some meds and he'll be better.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I mean, because we did this with Alonzo Spellman. Same behavior where he shows up and he was bipolar. Same thing. And he didn't want to take his meds and that's what happened. Barrett says about this whole debacle about the game, Bill Callahan, the coach in particular, he says, quote, Bill Callahan did notice my behavior and actually told me we were not going to start you unless you get your stuff together. Because he could tell. I know he could tell.
Starting point is 01:03:29 So he told him in the week, I get your shit together. And that was it. He said he was so disappointed when the coach told him he wasn't going to play in the Super Bowl because he was there. He told him you're not playing in the Super Bowl? That Sunday morning because he was gone all Saturday. And he's like, you're not playing today. And he was like, what do you mean I'm not playing today? You got to let me do this. And all he could do is sit there and
Starting point is 01:03:50 basically he just said, he was just saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's all he could do because he was like, shit, I don't know what to do here. Callahan also told him that he had a friend. Callahan had a friend with bipolar disorder so he could relate and that the medication was going to be part of the process and he would have to deal with it and tinker it his whole life
Starting point is 01:04:06 and all that sort of thing. But he didn't voice that to the team, though. He just said that to him. So he just told the team, he's not playing. Exactly. But in front of him, he's like, oh, you know. After the game, Callahan said he hadn't talked to Robbins since the game. This was a couple days later.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Callahan said, quote, I'm concerned, but I know he's in good hands. That's nice. He wouldn't say where Robbins since the game. This was a couple days later. He said, Callahan said, quote, I'm concerned, but I know he's in good hands. That's nice. He wouldn't say where Robbins was. He just said he thought he went back to Oakland the night before. Apparently, when he was up and down, he was in Tijuana. He was partying. A friend of his who was drinking with him said that at one point he became very despondent, Barrett.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And the guy said, the guy's name is Cartier Dice, which is a hell of a name. Fuck yeah. He said, quote, all he could think about was his family, his two daughters. He was talking about killing himself, saying he was a disappointment, saying he was disappointing people, and he had a lot of support financially, and he was letting them all, a lot of people to support financially, and he was letting them all down. He was just, first he was manic, and then he went depressive, and it's brutal, man. Yeah, he removed Robbins. Callahan removes Robbins from the team hotel and moved him to Marissa's, like we said.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But that's it. He didn't have – he didn't say – he said that nobody monitored him after that. They didn't make sure he went anywhere. He said, quote, Robbins' situation, quote, didn't mandate personal bodyguards around the clock, which maybe before but after it would have at that point. He said, Callahan again, quote, there's a point in time you can only do so much as a coach in an organization. True, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:34 If you're legitimately worried about somebody and you care about somebody's well-being, you do a little extra. Yeah. You go above and beyond. Especially when you can relate and you know what bipolar does. Yeah. It's not like i don't know what that is whatever it's like yeah my friend has meds right he would whatever you're gonna have to manage this your whole life um how about you help yeah maybe help us out yeah you're my coach you're supposed to be in this with me brother you're my brother remember that part uh so we have barrett's explanation here in their own
Starting point is 01:06:00 words quote there had to be a point where I had to separate fact from fiction. It's hard sometimes when you have bipolar not on medication and self-medicating, but I had become delusional and I had gotten into a state of mind that's not healthy for anybody. Ultimately, it hurt me more than anyone. I do hate the fact that it affected 53 other players. I wish they had a Super Bowl ring instead of an AFC championship ring because they deserved it. That's nice. Tim Brown has a completely different theory on the game.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Tim Brown, the Hall of Fame wide receiver, ex-Notre Dame, Heisman Trophy winner, I think, everything. He's amazing. All-around great player by all accounts, a great guy, everything like that. He says that Bill Callahan threw the game. Really? He says that Bill Callahan threw the game. Really? He says Bill Callahan, quote, blew this thing up on Friday before the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 01:06:56 changed the game plan from one depending on running to one to which the Raiders would throw the ball 60 times. This is crazy. This happened on Friday. And he's saying, Brown's saying, you never take the game plan out on a Friday and reinstall another game plan. That is bat shit. Nobody does that. You work on that shit all week. That's what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Unless you're a bad coach and you're just, like, terrified that somebody knows. Like the water boy. Like Gruden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He might know what we do. Yeah, and he was Gruden's offensive coordinator, and he might have been overthinking it. But Tim Brown said, quote, we called it sabotage because Callahan and John Gruden were offensive coordinator, and he might have been overthinking it. But Tim Brown said, quote, We called it sabotage because Callahan and John Gruden were good friends. And Callahan had a big problem with the Raiders, you know, hated the Raiders,
Starting point is 01:07:33 only came to the Raiders because Gruden made him come. Literally walked off the field on us a couple times during the season when he first got there the first couple years as an assistant. So really he has become someone who is part of the staff, but we just didn't pay any attention to him. Gruden leaves. He becomes the head coach. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:07:52 It's hard to say that the guy sabotaged the Super Bowl. Can you really say that? That can be my opinion. I can't say it for a fact that his plan was to sabotage the Super Bowl. He hated the Raiders so much that he would sabotage the Super Bowl so his friend can win the Super Bowl. It's hard to say because you can't prove it. But the facts are, less than 36 hours
Starting point is 01:08:10 before the game, we changed our game plan. Wow. Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams. Holy dude. 9-11 was an inside job. You bet your ass. There were no plane parts at the Pentagon. He has an Alex Jones bumper sticker. Shut up, Tim Brown. Tim Brown totally has an Alex Jones bumper sticker on his car.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You know it is. I respected Tim Brown right up until five minutes ago. What the fuck did he just do? He is fucking crazy, man. What a dick. What a loon. That's a guy that can't accept defeat. No.
Starting point is 01:08:38 He has to. Blaming a coach is one thing, but fucking throwing out some nutty conspiracy theory like that. Callahan, I promise you, Callahan wants that ring. He wanted to win the Super Bowl. There is nothing that that man regrets more in his life than not having that fucking ring. And he also says that this had a dramatic—the game plan is what he said—Tim Brown's whole theory is the game plan is what sent Barrett Robbins off the deep end. Because he said he had a bit of a meltdown, Robbins, when they changed the game plan because he had all his shit set. And he's the center, so he's got all the protections.
Starting point is 01:09:10 And if you're running or passing, it's a big different deal. He said that Barrett Robbins said, quote, Barrett Robbins begged Coach Callahan, do not do this to me. I don't have time to make my calls, to get my calls ready. You can't do this to me on a Friday. We haven't practiced full speed. We can't get this done. So he said he begged. And one of the things, too, honestly, with a bipolar to send you into a tizzy, what might
Starting point is 01:09:33 be stressors like this. And that could have been a thing if you put a huge stressor on him the Friday before the Super Bowl. Anxiety will drive you batshit. Absolutely. And Tim Brown said, quote, now, should Barrett have manned up and tried to do it? Absolutely. But everybody knew Barrett was unstable anyway. So to put him in that situation,
Starting point is 01:09:49 not that he was putting him in that situation, but for the decision to be made without consulting the players on Friday, I played 27 years of football. The coaches never changed a game plan on a Friday before the game. Then he says, I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody here, which you just said you think it's sabotage. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:05 That's insane. Tim Brown. Wow. Yeah. 27 years in the NFL, and that's his fucking takeaway. Granted, I never played in the NFL. No. I can't really give much personal experience.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Very little, matter of fact. Actually, zero. Actually, none. But that's a fucking ridiculous thought. It's ridiculous. And Barrett even, this is the thing. When Barrett Robbins is going, he's a little ridiculous thought. It's ridiculous. And Barrett even, this is the thing. When Barrett Robbins is going, he's a little loopy, you're fucking nuts. Because Barrett says, and we're not going to do it in their own words because it's too long,
Starting point is 01:10:32 and I don't feel like editing that much music in. Barrett says, quote, I would be absolutely wrong to tell you that that was the case, okay? If Tim Brown goes on record and says that he changed a game plan on Friday, I don't even remember. You have to understand that I was having a manic episode and that had lasted more than two weeks. At that point in time, when we were going to the Super Bowl, I was having to shoot my foot up, going through acupuncture, going through a lot of pain. It was a lot of stress. Pain is a big trigger when it comes to bipolar, and that was something I was going through along with self-medicating. I can imagine.
Starting point is 01:11:04 That was a lot, so I am not going to say I can going through along with self-medicating. That was a lot so I am not going to say I can remember the exact meeting where that took place but I haven't heard anybody deny it. So he's like I don't fucking know. I was in loopy as shit. Anything could have happened. Papa Smurf could have came in and gave us a new game plan and I would have thought that was fine.
Starting point is 01:11:20 January 28th they tell him he's not going to play in the Pro Bowl either. In Honolulu team doctors declined to clear him medically to participate. Brutal. Yeah, I guess as a Pro Bowler, you must be cleared by your team. It said, quote, the Raiders doctors do not believe that he was physically fit to perform in the Pro Bowl, and they notified our office today. That's what the NFL said.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Yeah. Callahan said that Robbins was, quote, essentially dismissed from the team, and that, quote, today I dismissed him and sent him back to Alameda. He missed some responsibilities and obligations, which is interesting. Then a Raiders executive said, quote, what the coach said and what we're is what we're saying today. It's up to you to draw your own conclusions. These are team issues and I won't address it one way or another. So, yeah, it turns out he just— We're keeping it in-house.
Starting point is 01:12:08 They're keeping it in-house. He ends up going to the Betty Ford Clinic for 31 days. He gets in shape. He gets back in shape. And this is—he has a couple of problems in the off-season. That's the alcohol clinic. Yeah, but it's also, I think, just a—I think there's a lot of different— I think there's a lot of different things there going on. That's his problem, too, is alcohol. He's got a huge alcohol problem. Yeah, because he's also, I think, just a lot of different things there going on.
Starting point is 01:12:26 That's his problem, too, is alcohol. He's got a huge alcohol problem. Yeah, because he's self-medicating. He's self-medicating like crazy. He couldn't get out of bed from depression during the off-season at some point. Yeah, we've all been there for that. That's brutal. Bipolar isn't just depression.
Starting point is 01:12:41 It's a totally different thing here. You're hot and cold. That's where the bye comes from. Well, yeah, the manic from. You feel great and invincible and everything is terrific and then you're depressed and you want to kill yourself. Five minutes later. Literally five minutes and you want to jump off a bridge. Anything. He
Starting point is 01:12:54 gets it together though. His wife said quote, he had a year sober after the Super Bowl and it was the most fantastic year of our lives. He was the husband I always knew he could be and the father I always knew he could be. That's sweet. So that's great. The Raiders take him back in 2003. Callahan's still the coach. They go
Starting point is 01:13:09 4-12 that year. Back in the shitter. Rebuilding. Rebuilding. Garrett plays in nine games. Starts all nine. They have a quarterback mashup of Gannon, Rick Meyer, terrible ex-Notre Dame quarterback.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Marcus Tuiasa-Sopu has the greatest name in football history. He does. And T. Martin, the old University of Tennessee quarterback. T. Martin. I don't remember that one. Black dude from the University of Tennessee who sucked. He was almost like a Cornell Stewart. He was an athletic guy, but he just wasn't a good quarterback.
Starting point is 01:13:41 The Steelers had him for a long time, actually. He played second string for them. I don't remember him. And Rob Johnson, who eventually signed a huge deal with the Bills to suck and get caught because he's terrible. Callahan gets shit-canned at the end of this year. Barrett needed knee surgery at the end of the year. His wife
Starting point is 01:13:56 is very scared about the aftermath of that. Of course, because he's going to have to start taking drugs. Yep, and she reads extensively about bipolar disorder and that the pain and painkillers are what trigger manic attacks. And she's like, oh, shit, this isn't great. Manic episodes. Barrett also says he realizes that.
Starting point is 01:14:13 So he's in a position where he realizes that. And he says he's going to promise to let her count his pills so she'd know if he veers off into abuse because he won't be able to manage it, he said. She's still worried, though. And after a while, he started getting crazy again. Of course. I didn't mean to use the word crazy, but what are you going to say crazy? He starts getting erratic is what it is and going all around. His behavior is not normal. No, no, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:14:38 November 2003, there is a Balco, as we've talked about before, the Balco steroid thing. Listen to the Tim Montgomery episode for more detail. He's got a teammate that's very involved in it. He does he's got several actually many Raiders Stubb Dana Stubblefield Tyrone Wheatley Chris Heatherton. Stubblefield was in that too. Yeah absolutely they all appear
Starting point is 01:14:58 before the grand jury in November one week later they all test positive for steroids. They test them. This was supposed to be a private, sealed grand jury that no one knew who was there. The team found out and tested those guys. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Romanowski gets suspended. Barrett Robbins gets suspended for steroids. So now we have blows to the head, alcohol, drugs, bipolar, and steroids. Ouch. All in one. Mix that together. That is nasty. That shit is flammable. That is a flammable Ouch. All in one. Mix that together. That is nasty. That shit is flammable.
Starting point is 01:15:26 That is a flammable cocktail. Look at a lighter near that shit. That'll dissolve a brain in a minute. Wow, man. That is. That's like Spanish guiso when they put a body in diesel fluid. It's crazy. That's what this is.
Starting point is 01:15:36 It's so bad. About testing positive, Barrett said, I'm not really talking about it. Obviously, I'm not happy about it. So that makes sense. His agents and all their agents are really fucking mad about that shit because they're like this is wrong how are we going to market this fucker too now not only that but they said that was supposed to be a sealed thing and our we sent our players and the league screwed us on it which is bullshit and now now
Starting point is 01:15:58 this guy's worth in the nfl is is shit well early 2004 Barrett actually has to be a grand jury witness in the Belk, okay? So that must have sent him over the deep end a little bit. July 2004, he is released by Oakland. You bet. Yeah. This is a week after he and two other players refined three game checks for testing positive for steroids. Goddamn. He also failed a physical exam, and then he asked for his release, so they released him.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. This blows to the head. Coc cocaine, alcohol, weed, steroids, bipolar. Wow. Altogether mixed together. Alcohol, weed and coke and steroids. He's doing all of this to medicate and blows to the head and bipolar. This is not good. It's not great to do any drugs or drink when you're bipolar. It's just not.
Starting point is 01:16:44 You have a really delicate balance. It's not good shit man it doesn't do well at all barrett is done in the nfl 121 games played 105 games started three fumble recoveries because that's all you get you know stats for and those fumbles are his own quarterbacks fumbles yeah or his or yeah they're running back maybe going through the line. September 2004, he asks his wife for a divorce also. What? He's out of his mind. Who knows what he's thinking. That's not smart.
Starting point is 01:17:11 No. In September, she moves out of the September 2004, moves out of their home, takes their daughters, Madison and Marley, back to Southern California where her parents are. She said, quote, I bought this book called Loving Someone with Bipolar Disorder. And the last chapter was called When Is It OK to Leave? She said it says that when the situation becomes unhealthy for the kids. And that's how I knew their divorce was still going on. It'll go on for a few more years. If you don't know when Crystal Pepsi was discontinued, what was in Al Capone's vault or which famous meteorologist is Lenny Kravitz's second cousin, then you haven't spent enough time on Wikipedia. But that's okay. I am here for you. I'm Darcy Carden, and I'm inviting you to listen to my new podcast, WikiHole, from Smartless Media.
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Starting point is 01:19:09 He shows up alone at the Sir Francis Drake Hotel in San Francisco. Is he blocked there? No. He's doing nothing. He's trying to get up to the starlight room on the 21st floor. A spokesman said that he's wandering around the 21st floor of the hotel and a security guard comes up and asks him what he's doing. Reasonable, right? So he doesn't know. So they escorted him off the property. They tried to escort him off the property and everything's going fine.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And then apologize for missing church. Out of nowhere. And this will keep happening. Out of nowhere, the spokesperson said all of a sudden he comes back and the guard turned around and Robbins hit him. So he just attacks this guard and starts beating the shit out of him a little bit. That was out of nowhere? Out of nowhere, for no reason. The guy was just like, oh, yeah, we can go out this exit. And Barrett just starts blasting him. Wow.
Starting point is 01:19:57 He's arrested, charged with battery and drunken disorderly conduct. He's held on $1,000 bond. disorderly conduct. He's held on $1,000 bond. He gets out of there, ditches all of that, leaves behind an outstanding bench warrant for himself, and heads to Florida, heads to Miami. Not a good place. Yeah, he's got a friend of his, an old friend who lives in South Beach, and he's going to go take in the social scene and party and hang out in South Beach, man. His family is freaking out, obviously. This guy shouldn't be out doing this. They try to track him down, but no one will get him to leave.
Starting point is 01:20:29 He's not going anywhere. He's going crazy here. So mid-January here, the friend leaves Florida. Robin stays behind by himself. What? So now he's in Florida by himself. No friends, no family, just doing whatever. January 15, 2005, Miami Beach Police investigate a report of a robbery.
Starting point is 01:20:53 It's in the administrative office of a building that has a nightclub, gym, jewelry store, the whole deal. It's like a complex. And the upper floors have the offices. So he's going through that. That's what they say the robbery is. Barrett ends up barreling himself through a pub. It's on the first floor, the Playwright Irish Pub. The owner and the chef are telling him no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:21:10 And he busts through the kitchen, goes there, and goes up to a second floor bathroom through there. This huge, crazy guy doing that. He has no shoes on, and he's in a complete manic state. Okay? Yeah, it's nuts. And he used to play center. And two years ago, literally. He was so big. Yeah. It's nuts. And he used to play center. And two years ago, literally. He was so big.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Yeah. So he's doing this. The police come and the police look all around and they said some guy ran by up there. He's upstairs. So they go and find him. He's found hiding in a second floor women's bathroom. Okay. Two detectives find him in there.
Starting point is 01:21:43 He is sitting on the toilet, not shitting, but sitting there with no shoes on, you know, looking like a crazy person sitting in the toilet. So they're escorting him out of the bathroom. There's a third officer who had come up to and the third officer tells him, please place your hands on the wall to be searched. Sure. Basically, what he did then was beat the living shit out of these cops. What starts kicking their asses. They say he repeatedly laughed as he was beating the shit out of this Colin Fronger, who is the officer with his fists. He drove him through the emergency exit door like he was in Roadhouse tossing somebody out for throwing a bottle at the blind guy. And he's giggling his balls off. Somebody out for throwing a bottle at the blind guy, laughing.
Starting point is 01:22:35 The cops said the other two detectives, Mark Schoenfeld and Mike Muley, they say that he was completely undeterred by kicks and punches from them at him. They're trying to kick his ass, and he's ignoring them, tossing this other guy around. Here's one moment that he's thankful that it's not 2017 because they would have shot him well with everything so they this isn't like a tight hallway it happens so fast or like what the hell's going on you don't have any you take a gun out he's he's right there you might take it away from you so uh they try to subdue him but eventually he's like fine he's like king kong like he turns his attention away from uh the one officer he He threw the emergency exit and turns around to these guys. Like, you want some now? He picks up Schoenfeld like a body slam.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Picks him up like he is Hulk Hogan body slamming him and slams him into both sides of the wall on the hallway. Unbelievable. Picks him up and starts racking him against the hallway. Wow. Like he's in WWE. All three of these officers were under 180 pounds. And they're fighting. At this point, he's a 350- manic giant, giant alcohol fueled crazy person.
Starting point is 01:23:28 He is the fucking Incredible Hulk. Yes. Now they say that Robbins tried to grab Fronger's gun at this point. Then so Muley, the other one, pulls his gun and threatens to shoot Robbins. So what Robbins does is slap his gun, grabbed his whole face with his hand, he said covered his face, and started slamming his head into the wall while he was holding his face. Like Harry and the Hendersons.
Starting point is 01:23:55 This is crazy. Yeah, he's a giant. He's a Sasquatch. He's a loose Sasquatch in San Francisco. He's a San Francisco Sasquatch. That's the other thing, too. Laughing the whole time. And they said as he was slamming his head into the wall,
Starting point is 01:24:10 he also pinned the dude's forearms against the wall with the other thing and was hitting his head and began to snarl and growl at him. Wow. Holy shit. Wasn't that what he did in Harry and the Dwarves? He grabbed faces and just, like, throw them down a hallway? Yeah. The fronger ends up unconscious, which is fucking nuts.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Schoenfeld had a broken shoulder, busted teeth, teeth knocked out, the whole thing. So he's, Muley says, he quote, he grabs me by the face with his hand as he charged at me and smashes me into the wall. I had my firearm out pointed at him. He was grabbing at my forearms, holding my forearms, trying to pull it away. I just started firing the gun. Wow. He fired three times.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Sorry, fired five times. Three slugs hit the hallway and office walls. Two hit Barrett right in the chest. One in the heart and one in the lung. Oh, my God. One pierces his heart. One goes into his lung. Muley, the cop, says, quote, he didn't fall down.
Starting point is 01:25:09 I was kind of surprised. He just bent over, put his elbows on his knees, and told me he was going to kill me now. Oh, my God. He said, quote, now I'm going to kill you. And he said that pissed him off. Like that, he was like, now you're fucking dead. You shot me in the heart. I was playing before.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I'm going to fuck you up. I was just fucking around. This was i was playing before i'm gonna fuck you up i was fucking around this was fun before now i'm gonna fucking kill you remember how i was laughing it's not a joke it's not a joke you shot me in the heart to imagine you shoot a guy close range twice in the chest and he says now i'm gonna fucking kill all you did was piss him over all you did was piss him off holy shit what do you do that had that's not a nine millimeter that's a 40 or bigger. This is... It might have been a.38 back then.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Maybe. Even a.38 is a pretty good size. That's still enough. That'll get you... They're not carrying.22s over here. Yeah. So the cop says, quote, he didn't fall down like I thought he would, and he says he's going to kill him, which really, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:59 He knocks the cop's gun away at that point. Wow. Slaps his gun away and knocks Muley out cold. So he shoots him twice. With slaps it away, punches him, and then at that point, he sits down. Is this for real? This is for real. Then at that point, he sits down, okay?
Starting point is 01:26:14 I didn't know that you could get shot in the heart and live. Apparently he can. Not just live, but keep fighting. It's insane. Robbins is also claiming the police used excessive force, that he was a victim of unwarranted assault and battery, which might have been in the beginning. Hold on. He's around to take a statement after this?
Starting point is 01:26:33 Well, that's later, later. Let's get into this here. He survives this? He survives this. What? He does not die. This is not the end of his nookery. This doesn't even smarten him up.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Never mind surviving. He says he just remembers running into them, pushing them, and getting shot. He doesn't remember any of it. Detective Muley said he'll never forget, quote, knowing that there was nothing you could do to stop him. Nothing at all. Not even shoot him. Literally.
Starting point is 01:26:58 It didn't even stop him. Yeah, it's fucking- For real. You can't kill him. It's batshit. It's absolutely nuts. I mean, can you imagine that? He goes to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:27:07 He's going to be charged also, by the way, with attempted felony murder, which carries possible maximum sentence of life. Also to resisting arrest with violence, trespassing, and trying to deprive an officer of his firearm. How about also assault on a police officer? Yes, but his wife and his attorney are saying, look, obviously his attorney says his behavior as outlined in the arrest affidavit is clearly
Starting point is 01:27:33 not that of a sane person, which is fair, I would say. He was shot in the chest and kept fighting. And he's saying, I'm pissed off now. The Raiders released a statement saying, our thoughts and prayers go out to Barrett and his family and we hope he makes a full speedy recovery. He is in a coma for three weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Three weeks in a coma. March 2nd, 2005. I'm sorry, more than three weeks. He finally wakes up. It wasn't until March 2nd, 2005. Wow. He wakes up. So that's a month and a half later.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Yeah. He wakes up. First things he remembered was being strapped to the hospital bed. He said he looked at the calendar on the wall and he said it was terrifying, to be honest with you. I couldn't talk, but I could open my eyes and see things. I saw this calendar that said March 2nd, and I thought, oh, no, March 7th is Marley's birthday. I have to get to a phone by March 7th. So they're medicating him, and he's starting to be, at least he comes out of it a little more normal.
Starting point is 01:28:20 He stayed in the hospital until April. Until April. A month and a half in the hospital. January 15th he went in. Oh, no. I mean, a month and a half after he's awake. He's in the hospital in a coma for almost two months. He was finally marched. He wasn't off his respirator
Starting point is 01:28:35 till March 13th. Wow. That was when he finally was able to breathe on his own and all that sort of thing. So he missed Marley's birthday. Yeah, he wasn't paralyzed. They said his size definitely helped him a lot in this whole thing. Yeah. What ends up happening is the court at this point in April lets him go to his father's home in Flint, Texas to recover. He's basically free on bond but facing three felony counts of attempted murder, which is an interesting thing here.
Starting point is 01:29:02 In April 2005 here, that's when he said he's released from the hospital, he has to post a $51,000 bond to be able to go to Florida to do all of that or to Texas to do that. A crazy cop killer gets bond. Yeah. Yeah. A guy that's so crazy that he will kill cops. The prosecutor's office, after reviewing the evidence further, reduces the attempted murder charges to three counts of felony battery on a police officer, which is a little better.
Starting point is 01:29:26 He's looking at 30 years in prison now instead of life, which is a little better. Now, August 14th, 2005. This is a few months later. He's in Texas. He is arrested. He's fucking arrested again. He shouldn't even be out. Never mind arrested.
Starting point is 01:29:41 He's detained after a bicycle patrol cop notices the smell of marijuana coming from his car. The cop said, quote, we had probable cause and the officer saw a marijuana pipe in plain view on the center console. He gave no resistance and was very passive, but officers were aware of his violent past. As a cop, if you come across that guy and you run his information and see what... Never mind. Have a nice day. Have a good one. Take care of yourself.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Weed is not worth it. No. He's released on $800 bond after that. The Miami-Dade County State's Attorney's Office said that, quote, this may have negative ramifications on his pending criminal case in Miami. I would think so. Yeah. His father said, quote, he was in San Antonio smoking pot in the car, and he blew the smoke right in the direction of the bicycle cop.
Starting point is 01:30:27 What in the world could you be thinking is what he said. He's nuts. That's what he was thinking. Yeah. He ends up getting sent back to Florida and put in protective custody. He said that was tough, really tough. I learned a lot about myself there, I would say so. September 8, 2005, he is in court.
Starting point is 01:30:47 He's looking scruffy. His shirt's untucked. He looks like a mess in his mugshot and everything. He sits in handcuffs here. He's charged with three counts of attempted murder officially here. They order him into custody because he has violations of his bond conditions, obviously. In 2006, August, they reach a plea agreement that he cuts the sentence to five years probation he gets for this. And it keeps a felony off his record, too, the way they did this. Five years probation for beating the ever-living fuck out of three cops. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:22 It's crazy. He took the plea bargain. His lawyers didn't want him to take the plea bargain. Robbins said he wanted to move on and not risk a long sentence or spend more time in jail awaiting trial. He was in jail for 11 and a half months for violating the terms of his bond during that period. But his lawyers are going, look, dude, you were on bond for attempted murder and you
Starting point is 01:31:43 fucked up then. Yeah, that's the thing. You're not going to be able to get through five years. You're just not. So he gets five years probation, and he's ordered to continue treatment for bipolar and also to stop drinking alcohol. That ain't going to stop. Yeah. But he's on probation.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Positive drug tests out the ass. Of course. He gets probation violations, jail time, rehab attempts, halfway houses. Nothing works. His father said that he would get a call from a hotel, not from Barrett, just from a hotel, saying that Barrett had checked in and left all his possessions in his room, never checked out or paid the bill. He'd just be like, I'm leaving now and walk away.
Starting point is 01:32:18 He's just that disoriented. He treated it like a storage unit. Yeah, I'll just go there. It'll be fine. He treated it like a storage unit. Yeah, I'll just go there. It'll be fine. Early 2007, he avoids probation supervision because of a bureaucratic error when he goes back to Texas. He failed to take his medication and to alert authorities of his new residence, which are both probation violations.
Starting point is 01:32:37 But it's a bureaucratic error, and it gets let go. In 2007, he's held briefly in the Bexar County, Texas Corrections Department, mentally impaired offender facility for having an incident, just wandering around, being disoriented. September 21st, 2007, a warrant is issued for his arrest in Miami-Dade for parole violations stemming from his run-in with the cops in 2005. That's a bad county to have a warrant. Dude, it's not good here. October 2007, he's extradited because they couldn't find him in Texas. He's extradited to Florida, placed in lockdown. He tests positive for marijuana. Of course.
Starting point is 01:33:19 And he's admitted to Focus High Point Medical Center in Cooper City, Florida. And then he's sent to a halfway house in Texas. He is a fucking disaster. I've got no problem with weed. I've got zero problems with it. Not if you're bipolar, though. But if it's not helping you, which it's obviously not. He shouldn't be doing anything but his medication.
Starting point is 01:33:35 That's not a good medication. No, it's not great. We're going to get a bunch of tweets. I'm bipolar. I need to smoke weed. I'm sure it's good for you. That balances you. It doesn't balance everybody.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Not this motherfucker. Clearly not this guy. Yeah. May 2008, he moves in Not this motherfucker. Clearly not this guy. Yeah. May 2008, he moves in with a friend and starts doing drugs again, violates his probation in Houston and tests positive for cocaine and marijuana, sent back to jail and then to Houston for substance abuse treatment. He's just going in a little triangle back all around. This is the system that's got him just stuck in it.
Starting point is 01:34:01 It's crazy. May 2008, he likes his probation officer. He says they're very caring, but he said that they couldn't stop him from using drugs, though. He has a test in May 2008. Before the test comes back, he tells the probation officer that he's going to get pot and cocaine in there. There's going to be coke and weed in there. And it's true. It comes back positive.
Starting point is 01:34:22 He's sent to jail for six months. So he's there. It comes back positive. He's sent to jail for six months. So he's there. It's interesting, man. So he's just, it's a fucking mess. I mean, and he's in like lockdown too here. He says it's not a country club, this one that he's in here. 5 a.m. they wake him up. Lights out at 10.
Starting point is 01:34:40 He said he's so drained by all the group meetings and all that that he's usually out by 830. I'm exhausted from talking all day. 350 pounds sleeping on a single bed in there, too, which has got to be weird looking here. January 13th, 2009, they file, Barrett and his lawyer file a civil rights lawsuit accusing the Miami Beach police of excessive force and seeking unspecified damages. Wow. What? That is crazy. Yeah, they're doing that.
Starting point is 01:35:09 They're basically saying that earlier in the day, what they're saying is earlier in the day, according to police dispatch log provided here, a large, heavily, this is when he got shot that day, a large, heavily tattooed white male was wandering aimlessly barefoot acting disoriented around. So what they did is they just, the cops picked him up and, quote, took him over to the mainland and dropped him off on a street corner. So they didn't take him anywhere. They just dropped him off. So they're saying if you didn't fucking do that, he wouldn't have been there and that wouldn't have happened. That's your fault.
Starting point is 01:35:41 He wouldn't have been there and that wouldn't have happened. That's your fault. They said that they should have invoked the Baker Act, which is a Florida statute that allows for detention for mental health evaluation. It's a 5150. Right. Like we've all heard of in California. Same thing. It's a quote unquote crazy person.
Starting point is 01:35:56 It's a quote unquote whack job coming here. Whack-a-doodle. Whack-a-doodle. Here it is. 5150. February 1st, 2009. Fluff piece. What?
Starting point is 01:36:05 The fluff pieces start coming now. Why would you write anything about him? He's still alive. Make him disappear. It's called Six Years Later, Robin Still Finding His Way. He's still in rehab. The whole deal he's talking about, this is in February 2009. He's saying he's going to graduate rehab on May 12th.
Starting point is 01:36:21 He's going to move into an aftercare. He's going to have constant supervision. They ask him if he's going to stay on his medication and all that sort of thing. And he says in their own words, quote, I feel good. I really do. I have some physical issues, but that's mostly from playing football. For getting shot in the heart and lung, I'm doing fine.
Starting point is 01:36:37 And mentally, I've never had clarity like I have now. There was always something missing. This is pretty much it. I'm fed up with things and the way they've been and I'm tired of being sick. And let's face it, I don't there was always something missing. This is pretty much it. I'm fed up with things and that's and the way they've been. And I'm tired of being sick. And let's face it, I don't have any more chances left. It's no shit. You were shot in the heart and survived.
Starting point is 01:36:53 That's pretty good here. The Raiders do not want to comment on this article. But his wife, Marissa, feels confident that she says, quote, if I know I know if I needed anything, I could call the Raiders. I don't know about that. We'll see here. She says 14 years dealing with this stuff and I still love him. So she's a nice lady. She's crying. She's call the Raiders. I don't know about that, but we'll see here. She says, 14 years dealing with this stuff, and I still love him. So she's a nice lady. She's crying. She's doing the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Barrett is just, he's in this. He lost track of all the teammates, they said. His phone numbers are all gone. Yeah, he doesn't know where he is. How's he going to remember a phone number? His wife never tells the daughters exactly where he is. They just say that he's sick and he's getting help.
Starting point is 01:37:25 They don't say that he got shot. They don't tell him about getting arrested. She said when he can't send holiday presents, she always wraps an extra gift and marks it from dad. So that's nice. She tries to, you know. She's trying to help this guy here. Doing her best. It's ridiculous, man.
Starting point is 01:37:41 She's working really hard, too, to keep him in the picture. Yeah, no, she really is. She's really, man. She's working really hard, too, to keep him in the picture. Yeah, no, she really is. She's really, really trying. There's another fluff piece after this where he just says that he's trying his best. His dad says, quote, I think right now he doesn't see himself as very useful. And when you're used to making $3 million a year, the idea of making $60,000 can be tough. You have to see that $60,000 isn't useless. It's normal, he's saying. You've got to see that $60,000 isn't useless. It's normal. He's saying you've got
Starting point is 01:38:05 to see that 60,000 as at least it's not nothing. At least it's not nothing. Absolutely. June 13th, 2009, he's moved to a halfway
Starting point is 01:38:12 house. Yeah. He says he straightened his out self out. He says when you get to the point you're sick of jails and institutions and near
Starting point is 01:38:19 death experiences, quote, God will allow you to see things in a different light. And he has for me. Holy shit. Don't find God. No.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Please, the last thing you need is religion mixed in this. You're going to have to remember all that shit now. That's more shit to remember. July 2009, he's on Real Sports with Brian Gumbel. What? We're talking about the Tijuana thing. This is when he started coming out and doing interviews about the whole Super Bowl thing. So it was very interesting.
Starting point is 01:38:43 He just got out of the halfway house. He just graduated his program and was in the halfway house. So he does that. February 2010, he's pulled over in Dallas and found in possession of a crack pipe with crack residue in it. You fucking idiot. He has demoted himself to crack. God damn it. He serves 146 days in jail in Texas for that.
Starting point is 01:39:05 That's rough. January 2011, the lawsuit against the city starts. They go through the whole deal again. It's basically him saying they abused him. We'll get on to more crime. We don't need to know about that. Let's just say the lawsuit didn't go anywhere. He didn't win.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Let's just say that. Let's just say it was a lawsuit brought forth by a crackhead that's perfect march 25th 2011 is sentencing for all his probation violations we have a judge here uh judge daryl trawick who says quote you are a man who had been blessed with extraordinary athletic talent but instead of using that athletic ability on the football field, you use it against a police officer. It's time we deal with this once and for all. You, sir, may fuck off. Five-year prison term for this now. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Five years. After Bryant Gumbel? For repeatedly violating his probation. I think the crack pipe was probably the extra thing. It's like, dude, you can't do drugs. You can't, especially not crack. Barrett says, quote, I'm happy to have a resolution. He says, it's kind of a relief
Starting point is 01:40:06 to be honest with you. He says he's planning on writing his autobiography in prison, even though he says he's not much of a writer. Spends a year and a half in jail. Year and a half in prison. He's inmate number M56276 at the Dade Correctional Institute in Florida City.
Starting point is 01:40:22 A year and a half of a five-year stretch. Yeah, he does that. He's sitting there. He's fucking imagine how disheveled he is. Trying so hard to write a book. No shoes. Every other page is just, I'm sorry I missed church. I'm sorry I missed church. I'll never miss church again.
Starting point is 01:40:35 He's disoriented and he looks up and it's Dexter Manley, interior decorator from New York City. And he says. How is it you came to arrive here? What are you doing? Look at a crack pipe. Really? Is that classy now?
Starting point is 01:40:54 Crack pipes. I like that you threw came in there. No, that's not classy. Look at the way you're dressed. This is not sexy. OK, I'm just going to tell you right now. I can help you with this. I can get you together, but maybe not while you're in prison. Those tattoos have potential.
Starting point is 01:41:07 They can, but we could decorate them. We could bedazzle them a little. I have stones that you put on them that ladies like to put on their nails. Very, very nice. We'll work it out, but get out of prison first. We're going to bedazzle your tattoos. Poof. In a puff of purple glitter, he's gone.
Starting point is 01:41:22 He's gone. Barrett's really fucking confused then. He's like, did I just see that? I don't know, maybe. He probably sees that normally. So he's released on September 25th, 2012. He does an interview. Again, more fluff coming out.
Starting point is 01:41:36 He says he thinks about the Super Bowl all the time. He says he just hits himself in the head and says, damn, if I could have just done this or if I would have just done that. So much Finkel as Einhorn going through his head. Oh, so much, so much. We have an in their own words on his recovery. In their own words, quote, relapse is a part of recovery. But you have to know that mentally.
Starting point is 01:41:57 It's the same thing as losing a football game. You don't go in any football games no matter who you are thinking you're going to lose. But once you lose, it's about how you accept that. What would I have to live for if I was waiting for the next mistake fair enough uh so he's out of prison on september 25th 2012 uh he there as he's being released a cbs miami affiliate uh news reporter comes up and asks him hey you're gonna be able to stay off drugs now that you're free and he says in their own words quote i'm not worried about that and that's not anybody's business but mine. That's something I'll deal with myself.
Starting point is 01:42:28 You know what? Cancel this. Erase this. Erase what you've got. I don't want any part of this shit. Fuck you, he says. Get out of here. Summer of 2014, he's at a rehab program again in Ann Arbor, Michigan this time.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Change of scenery. That's nice. That's nice. October 2014, fluff pieces. More fluff pieces. Why? He's back in the Bay Area helping out with a special Olympics event at Dublin High, working with children and loving every minute of it. He says their spirit is amazing.
Starting point is 01:42:57 When you deal with them and interact, they've got so many gifts. One of those is just appreciation for the smallest thing. He is super, super, super happy. Yeah, he's psyched. Then after this, he starts discussing his concussions after this, too. Not in this piece, but not with the kids. He estimates he had at least 10 concussions from high school through the NFL. At least 10.
Starting point is 01:43:22 And it might have been more. That's a shade low. That's what I mean. I don't think he remembered half of it. If he played ten plays in the NFL, he had ten concussions. That's just what you get when you're the center. He says he's just trying hard. He wants to be a father to his 15 and 13
Starting point is 01:43:37 year old daughters. He says he's really doing really well. He's really happy where he is. He's so grateful. Everything is fantastic. Failed attempts to get clean were just part of his journey. He says, this is his summing everything up in their own words, quote, it's a gradual process. When you've had as many treatments as I've been in, you carry what you learn from those treatments through the next period of using through your next treatment. I don't know what God's going to put in my life.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Now I can see that my recovery is on very solid foundation. I'll start to consider doing things as far as a new career or whatever you want to call it because I don't feel at this point I would be a liability. I could be a real major asset maybe. Who knows? Who knows, Jimmy? Did he just use that as a job interview? He just said I could be an asset.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Let's find out what an asset he is. I'm good now. I am good now. Let's find out how good he is is. I'm good now. I am good now. Let's find out how good he is. August 12th, 2016 at the Best Western on Federal Highway in Boca Raton. Robbins lives in nearby Delray Beach. Basically, what happens is he may or may not have struck a person at a shopping center south of the hotel on Federal Highway. Police are called to a store after the report of an assault, but no witnesses came forward and no victims came forward. The witnesses didn't want to speak and the victims didn't come forward,
Starting point is 01:44:52 so they gave up. So Robbins is also reported. They're like chasing down reports of these assaults. He's also reported attacking someone in a bar and outside of another bar down the street. Then he wanders back to the hotel. He's apparently staying at this hotel, too, for some reason, even though he bar down the street. Then he wanders back to the hotel. He's apparently staying at this hotel, too, for some reason, even though he lives down the street.
Starting point is 01:45:09 He wanders back. He wanders through the lobby, and out of nowhere, he starts punching a mother and daughter multiple times in the head and body. No provocation, just starts blasting these two women for no reason. Rina Ronca and Gianna Ronca, they said that Robbins approached them quickly. They were just like looking up like, oh, what's this guy doing? And then just started assaulting, just started wailing on them until they started screaming for help.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Then they said once the police arrived, he just, once he was done, he just sat down on a bench and waited for the cops. Like he wanted to go back in or something. I think he's allergic to hotels. Yeah, he just sat down on a bench and waited for the cops. Like he wanted to go back in or something. I think he's allergic to hotels. Yeah. He likes jail. All his problems revolve around hotels. A lot of times, too, these guys do these things where you're like, do you
Starting point is 01:45:53 like jail? Because the same thing happened with Spellman. And it's like, I don't even think that's it. I just think he really doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. He can't function unless he's got the safety net of jail bars keeping him... He needs a cage. He's a caged animal
Starting point is 01:46:10 and you open it up and he fucking causes problems. Constantly. He's a Sasquatch. Like we said, the report says attack took place in the presence of two other family members. The whole deal. It was nuts, man. They're from New York, these women, and they couldn't recall the number of times he struck them. That's how many, but they said it was a lot man. They're from New York, these women, and they couldn't recall the number of times he struck them.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Wow. That's how many, but they said it was a lot. You lose track. He just started whaling. He hit you so many times. Yeah. He's taken into custody around 1230 a.m. There was another guy who said that he hit him before he went and hit the women, and they don't know why he hit the women.
Starting point is 01:46:39 They cuffed him before he was even charged. An arresting officer said, quote, due to his size and violent behavior, I placed him in handcuffs while I investigated, conducted my investigation. Holy shit. His wife, I feel terrible for. I feel bad for the Raiders. I mean, think about all these. Think about his poor daughters. The cops, they got their asses kicked.
Starting point is 01:46:58 Cops had a face smushed and bashed into the flake. They shot him. They had to shoot him. And he's still threatened. Everybody he's screwed over. All these people. He tried to sue the city. He's punching innocent women.
Starting point is 01:47:08 I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Barrett Robbins. What? A layup supervisor in Palestine, Illinois, in the aviation and aerospace industry. What the fuck is that? It's Flying S, Inc. he works for. What's a layup engine? I have no clue.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Layup what? It has something to do with a plane. I don't know what the hell that is here. He went to Eastern Illinois University. And also the poor folks over at Barrett Robbins Limited. It's a management consulting firm in Australia. They do management consulting and they have one to ten employees. Wow.
Starting point is 01:47:41 And people think they're run by a psychopath. Now, while he was doing this shit, the funniest thing about this whole assault on the women, not that that's funny, but the only funny thing is the Boca Raton officer in the occupation box on his arrest report, he wrote uncooperative.
Starting point is 01:47:57 That's his occupation. Very uncooperative. I thought that was terrific. Uncooperative. That's the best fucking job ever. I got to say. So he's being held in lieu of $50,000 bond on two counts of felony battery. He was taken to a mental health facility rather than jail, which is probably good.
Starting point is 01:48:15 He was appointed a public defender because he can't pay for a lawyer. If you can't get enough of Barrett Robbins, there is a site called this California dot com T-shirts. It has a whole bunch of T-shirts that have like your typical ones that you can put in. There's a Barrett freaking Robbins t-shirt. There is a future Barrett, Mrs. Barrett Robbins t-shirt. What? There is an I heart Barrett Robbins t-shirt. There is a quote, when the boogeyman goes to sleep, he checks the closet for Barrett
Starting point is 01:48:41 Robbins t-shirt. Oh, Christ. And then, of course, the obligatory Barrett Robrett robbins t-shirt and then of course the obligatory barrett robbins for president t-shirt there so if you president of what president of bat shit is what that is president of the fucking of the narcotics anonymous of the i don't even know president of the fight club president of the fruitcake he is the guy standing on top. He is nuts as shit. Good God. Holy shit, that's Barrett Robbins. He's out or in jail now? You don't know. Who knows? He's just fucking out
Starting point is 01:49:10 there somewhere. He was at a mental health facility. That was last year, so I assume they probably released him at some point. Hopefully he's still there. He hasn't gotten arrested since then, so I don't know. Maybe he's on his meds now. I have a feeling the story's not over. No. And people are going to be sending us a lot of updates on this one. This is going to get crazy. This is one that was requested a lot. Really? Yeah, because of the whole Super Bowl thing. People just didn't know what the deal with not over. No. And people are going to be sending us a lot of updates on this one. This is going to get crazy. This is one that was
Starting point is 01:49:25 requested a lot because he was, yeah, because of the whole Super Bowl thing. People just didn't know what the deal with him was. This is the deal with him.
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