Crime in Sports - #93 - There's A Gun In My Crawfish - The Disappointingness of Marcus Bullard

Episode Date: November 13, 2017

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That we have lunacy here. Unlike last week, which was completely sane, right? Ten Cousins is a dick. That was a complete asshole. The amount of tweets I got about meth and assholes was unbelievable. When you're a famous person and you get busted in a

public place with not a little, with a bunch of meth up your ass, that's going to come off. It's enough. It's going to happen. It's a good amount. That's a good amount. He had a nice night ahead of him, we'll say. A nice knot. It makes a knot.

It's a good knot. Yeah. That he's fucking wet. He had to push his fingers in there. What we're saying is you got to really want it. You got to. To have that much meth up your ass. It's a real, you got to want that shit, man.

You got to want it bad. You got to want it up your ass. Let's talk about a fellow. Let's talk about a young man who I don't think has ever been busted with anything up his ass. Okay. All over other parts of his body, but not up his ass. Let's talk about Marcus Leland Bullard. Can we hear a Marcus Bullard?

Marcus Bullard. By any chance? Probably not. As you were saying the name, I was- Drawing a blank? Yeah. You said Marcus, and I'm like, I know a couple. Okay.

I was hoping it was Vic. No. Then we get to Leland, and I'm like, that ain't Marcus Vic's middle name. This is a much better story than Marcus Vic, first of all. Fuck Marcus Vic. Marcus Vic is a fuck... He's going to be one of these. Oh, yeah, yeah.

For sure. Someday. This guy has matured and blossomed into the type of guy that we want to talk about. Is he a football player? No. He's a basketball player, actually. Never played in the NBA. Big time college basketball, Final Four.

And could have played in the NBA, possibly, if he wasn't a complete and utter fucking menace to society. His middle name is Leland. Leland. He's such a fuck-up that professional sports in America wouldn't even take him in. Really? They were like, that's how bad of a fuck-up. They're like, you know what? No. Wait a minute. Professional sports in America? Is he from him in. They were like, that's how bad of a fuck-up. They're like, you know what? No.

Wait a minute. Professional sports in America. Is he from somewhere else? No, no, no. No, I'm just saying. He's an American. We don't have standards is what I'm getting at. And we even said that's too much.

Fuck that guy. This guy's too much of a jackass. We can't have him on the team, can we? What an idiot. So Marcus Bullard, he's born November 19th, 1974. Okay. He is from Mississippi. He is from southern Mississippi. He is a very, very Mississippi guy.

He is from the Gulf Coast town of Long Beach, Mississippi. When you think of Long Beach, you think of California first. Then you think of Long Island as a long beach. Very nice out there on the tip. And then you think of Long Beach, Mississippi, which is the... Mississippi's a coast state. It is. It's on the Gulf. It's got those fingers.

It's on the Gulf. There's a lot of humidity. The longest finger is the Long Beach. I guess so. A lot of humidity. Mosquitoes, I assume, just abound there. It's everywhere. Mumbling white folks. This town, it's about 15,000 people in this town it's a kind of a smaller town okay and i'm going to give you one little uh here's a kind of like a like we're doing small town murder for a second because i had to look up the town just to see where he's from to see if he's from like a a shit place a nice place uh it's kind of a middle of the road it's become

a tourist attraction kind of an area because it's right on the beach yeah so they put some high rises on the beach oh no people buy condos and shit like that and it's turning like you know perfect for when hurricanes come through it's a nice little douche gathering you can have a douchey little fire vantage point to watch the fucking destruction exactly it's perfect you can see every everybody run for their lives and try to scoop their children up in their arms long beach though wasn't always a tourist town okay you know how it started, Jimmy? No. Oil? Not oil. Of course not.

Not oil. I was going to say, oil, not the railroad. No. I will give you 300 guesses and you won't guess it. That's the thing. I could let you. That was a trick. Yeah.

I could give you 300 guesses and you would never get it. It's not oil. It's not the railroad and it's not farming. Pick the most random thing you can find. Rice. Well, no. It began completely based around the radish industry. Wow. Radishes.

This is where radishes came from. So probably every radish I've ever eaten is probably from there. Probably from this place. It was based on radishes. At first it was like a logging place. When was the last time you ate a radish? Fucking never. They're gross.

One time when I was six, I accidentally took a bite of one that someone slipped a chunk of in a salad. And I went, what is that hot, nasty, disgusting thing? It's got the consistency of a raw potato. The fuck am I eating? Yeah, why is this crunchy? This is awful. And it tastes terrible.

They're awful. Nobody likes them, right? No one under the age of 60 likes radishes. I'm sorry. And the people that are over 60, it's just because their taste buds are gone. They don't know. They can't taste that. The only people who like radishes grew up during the Depression, and they just ate it.

All I had for dinner was a handful of radishes, and I got used to them. It reminds me of my childhood. They got used to it. You can get used to anything. It was known as, quote, the radish capital of the world, which is what you want to be known for. So those shits are probably in horseradish sauce, correct? I have no idea. You have to assume.

I don't know what's in horseradish. I don't. I don't. I don't think actual radish is probably. But that sauce is fucking vile. Horseradish is its own thing. It's terrible. It's its own thing, horseradish.

It's not something, it's not a horse and a radish. It's its own plant. It's not like horse milk? No, it's not at all like horse milk. And it's just mixed with, yeah, no, it's not at all horse milk. Chunky horse milk. I feel bad for those horse nipples that that shit's going on. Oh, God.

They're painful. They're fire. Painful. So I'm assuming that something to do with radishes made a horseradish then, right? It's got to. No. We're making our own. No, no, no.

It's just because it's spicy and radishes are spicy, I think, is why it's called horseradish. We're creating our own agriculture. You're creating a completely new crop of radish-based. Horseradishes. Of actual horseradishes. It's a radish in the ground. It's a radish grown out of horse shit. I was going to say a little horse sticking up out of the ground, a little horse head popping up.

I'm just saying that sauce is fucking horrific. That sauce is so terrible. I hate that stuff. It's disgusting. Why would you want to eat something that you take a bite and now your nose burns? People love horseradish. Why is it making my nose burn? That's what cocktail sauce is.

It's just mixed with ketchup and shit. Yeah, that's the spicy white chunks in cocktail sauce. That's horseradish. Why do you have spicy white chunks in there? I don't have spicy white chunks in my cocktail sauce. I don't know. What are you, eating mild hot? You get the McCormick's Extra Hot.

Everybody, everybody right now. When you go to the grocery store, if you need a cocktail sauce, McCormick's Extra Hot. No. Right there. I get whatever the fuck in that blue label one is. I don't know what it is. No, no. McCormick's Extra Hot.

It's 50 cents more and it's delicious. Do that and wash it down with a fine original New York seltzer, which I'm enjoying right now. I have a peach one and it's delicious. And if they'd like to send us original New York seltzer, we will happily take it. Tweet at those people. New York seltzer is the shit. It's the best and it's my favorite.

It keeps for a long day of recording. We record for four or five hours. It keeps my throat going for this. Without that, we wouldn't have the show. So please, tweet at them. Without that, James would be whispering the rest of this show. Don't, guys. This is terrible.

Because we do small-town murder first. Right. So anyway, this town, it was known especially for the cultivation of the long red radish, the long red variety, which apparently it says it was a beer hall staple in the northern states. What? In like the early 1900s people just they were i don't know if they were pickled just pick them up and fucking like

a pickle and they eat them i guess if you popped a radish in your mouth you'd want something to drink afterwards yeah that's a shit peanut right there that's a shit fucking chex mix they got out on the bar what do you got there chex and it's radishes oh thanks i guarantee you're drinking a lot of beer to get that taste out of your mouth yeah they went to pretzels after this so that's a little safer in uh in 1921 a bumper crop i'm sorry we're going over this this is funny as shit to me radishes they had too many radishes in 21 and they and 300 train loads of radishes went to uh went to the northern states and it was just too many goddamn radishes. They couldn't take it.

Radish prices plummeted, and eventually the long red radishes fell into disfavor, it says, for the small little round radishes that you see everywhere now, and this place only grew the other ones, and it was fucked. So it's had to recover since then. The long radishes are no good anymore because we got these tiny little ones. In between the radishes in the 30s going out of favor and, you know, like now, it's been pretty much nothing has happened. It's just in between the radishes and tourism, they had no industry whatsoever. That's Long Beach.

But it's not a very downtrodden area now. And it was a little worse when he was growing up in the 70s. Bullard, obviously everything was a little worse in the 70s. But now it's tourist. It's mostly white. It's about average income there. A lot of tourists, that sort of thing. Everywhere we can, every account we can hear of, Bullard was raised in a terrible environment.

Big shocker here as we're going to get into his story. But it's funny because he has, and I did this on purpose, a lot of times we'll do, I try to do very different stories back to back. You know what I mean? Like this guy, whatever, different crimes, different types of people, just a different, just totally spinning on its head. Entirely different sport. Yes.

Entirely different group of class even. Class. Because that kid was like super rich. That's what I mean. Now we're going to fucking broke Mississippi. And that's what I'm saying. And I did this on purpose because his story mirrors Ben Cousins' story so much. Not professionally because Ben Cousins gets in a little earlier and kind of flies under the radar before they realize he's a fucking nudnik and they kick him out.

But it mirrors his crimes mirror. They're just a little bit different. He's like the poor. Like this is one where you look at and it's like it's it's it just it is what it is. It's how it's a tough thing. So I wanted to just kind of mirror it. The same type of people raised way far away from each other. Completely different.

Different points of the world. One's black. One's white. One's fucking, you know, poor. One's rich. One's famous dad. One isn't. So every advantage, no advantages, the whole deal.

Yet they still wind up the same. You can wind up equal jerk-offs. It's exactly amazing. One person close to him described his environment, quote, as, quote, as bad as anything you could ever imagine. That's not a great endorsement of your childhood right there. Highly unstable, everybody says. thing you could ever imagine okay that's not a great endorsement of your childhood right there uh highly unstable also that kind of lends to to the like depends on who you are you know what i mean because i can imagine some pretty horrible shit and it was worse than that the kid's still alive he's still alive yeah but i mean a lot of drugs a lot of violence and uh not a good area a lot of he grew up in a shit area of this town, too.

But also, I'm more aware of what fucking horrible is. True. A lot of people are unaware that there's a lot of people that... Do you watch Live PD? Watch that fucking show and tell me there's a lot of people out there living great. This was a person close to him, so I imagine they've also seen shit. And he's shit among shit, I think is what they're saying. i think they're talking to people on live pd and being like this is how we live this is he yeah he has the least amount of radishes of anyone here

we have no radishes they have some over there we he had he had no radishes his parents were lloyd bullard yeah so at least he's not a junior but guess what his older brother It's a horrible life. He had a radish to his name. His parents were Lloyd Bullard, so at least he's not a junior. But guess what? His older brother is. Really? His older brother is Lloyd Junior. There's one peppered in somewhere. We will sure find out what happens.

It's unbelievable. We'll find out what happens to Lloyd Junior because he ends up worse off than Marcus. So not terrific here. Don't name a kid goddamn Junior right there. And Pauline Thomas is his mother. They were separated before he was born, right around the time he was born. They were never together. Not terrific here. Don't name a kid. Goddamn Junior right there. And Pauline Thomas is his mother. They were separated before he was born, right around the time he was born. They were never together.

Brought up by his grandmother, sort of, kind of. Shuttled around between whoever would watch him for a while. His grandmother, he had an Uncle Clyde he lived with. Everybody was poor as shit. I love that name. Just dirt farming radish people. Jesus. Not just poor people. Very poor. A lot of drugs. Yeah. A lot of violence in the area. Just very shit down. Mud. A lot of mud. A lot of mud. A lot of huts. It's it's it's it's just it's a blues song come to life. It's an old blues song come to life with street violence mixed in there. A little bit of cab mo. A little bit.

A little bit here. So, yeah, he lives with Uncle Clyde a little. That's kind of. That's such a cool name. Clyde is a cool fucking name. You think anybody named Clyde just knows shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. And they speak in like metaphor.

They're just fucking great guys. It is. Clyde is a good name. That's a great name. Yeah, I don't know why you want. I've never heard of somebody that was really a bad guy named Clyde. Oh, Bonnie and Clyde. Never mind. like metaphor they're just fucking great guys it is that clyde is a good name it's a great yeah i don't know i've never heard of somebody that was really a bad guy named clyde have you oh bonnie and clyde never mind there are shit bags there's uh yeah uh clyde drexler is fantastic he's the fucking greatest the worst hairline the greatest guy i love that he just looked like a 46 year old

math teacher while he was 22 just dominating just averaging 24 a game up for the MVP. Dunking on people. Dunking, soaring through the air with like mid-calf high socks. Jesus Christ. The worst shorts. Clyde was not looking to. No. Clyde did not look fly, we'll just say.

Not at all here. So what ends up happening with him is obviously he's getting into some fuckery here. Living with his uncle Clyde? Living with his uncle Clyde, living with his grandmother, living with kind of whoever would take him in and here. However, his parents weren't real with it. Sometimes his mom. It was a mess.

He grew up in a real mess. And I guess one one place you'd go be worse than the other. I give a lot of people the people that can make it out of that. I give them so much credit because that is not easy. And he had the chance. This is what's so sad here. You'll see what I'm saying about it. He gets past this and he gets to a point of unlimited opportunity and then he goes, no, no, no, no, no. I want that.

No, I will take that unlimited opportunity that's been given to me against all odds. Against all odds, I'm going to take it right to the bathroom and flush it directly down the toilet. And I'm going to flush again to make sure I'm not going to flush back to the surface. Fuck this. I want to go back to no radishes. I like jail. Right. So, yeah.

But people – OK. I'm going to make a quick social-economical point. Oh, boy. Here we go. It's going to be – Me and Andrew Jackson moment here. Locked and loaded, people. me is going to be an Andrew Jackson moment here. I just want to point out to people when they when they deny white privilege, this is what they're talking about, that you probably didn't grow up like this.

Granted, you're there's a lot of white people like me. I grew up like this. I was going to say, I've seen the wild, wonderful whites of West Virginia. Yeah, that's the same thing. It took me a lot of fucking hard work to become a functioning member of this society. Yeah, yeah. A lot of therapist hours. Right.

Oh, Christ. Dear Christ. Lots of blood. Legit blood. Sweat, tears, and so many tears lying on a couch. Yeah, I'm just a mess and not ready to talk about it with anybody, including psychiatrists, listeners, you or the general public at all. But yeah, I'm a mess.

I get what you're saying. That's just my point is that this is fucking brutal. I can't imagine. No. And to be a black guy in the South coming from this stuff. Yeah, it's true, too. You shouldn't succeed. The 70s are different.

It's different. When I was a kid, and I've told you about this once before, when I was a kid, my grandmother, not racist grandma. Okay, there's two grandmas. Okay, I have racist grandma. Cold cuts grandma. Who said that she doesn't need cold cuts that bad, if you guys remember that story, which was interesting.

Don't worry, alive, senile as fuck and not voting, so don't worry about her. She's just a horrible abhorrent racist i mean to the point where you're like god like racists would be like all right that's enough you know what i mean let's take it down a notch lady calm down jesus so anyway there's her and then there is uh my uh from italy grandma survivor grandma there's survivor yeah there's badass grandma she's from italy and uh I grew up a lot in her house. And I, you know, a lot because my parents were younger and, you know, often whatever. So I'd be at her house a lot.

And I remember complaining to her that I was in trouble. And my mother took the TV out of my room. Oh, shit. For like a day. Brutal. Brutal. I was fucking pissed. And I went to my grandmother thinking if I complained and told a sob story to her, she yell at my mom and say give the kid his td manipulation tactics yeah right that's what

i mean so trust me there's a point here so i go so i go i go to my grandmother and i'm like i'm like can you believe this i'm like they took my tv away and it stinks because i've always been an insomniac so i was like i wake up in the middle of the night and i have nothing to watch because i sit there and blah, blah, blah. And she takes a beat. And I think she's going to tell me I'll take care of it. You don't worry. And she tells me thick Italian accent.

She came here to the United States in 1947. If you know anything about history, that means her whole childhood was when she was 16. So her whole childhood was World War II basically. And Italy was occupied by the Germans for a long time during that. OK, so her childhood sucked. And she told I told her this and I told her the TV and I said I wanted to watch wrestling on Saturday morning or whatever. And she looked at me and she said, when I was your age and I'm going to do an axe. I know it's hacky, but I've been doing my grandmother since I was four. So he said, my Jimmy, when I was your age, he said, me and my sisters, we used to hide

from the Nazi soldiers so they wouldn't rape us. And I went, okay, I guess I don't need that TV that fucking bad. So no TV that bad. That puts some shit in the perspective for me. You know what I mean? And I think people that think they have it shitty, they should look at perspective and go, this is shitty, what Marcus Bullard has going on. It's not Nazi soldiers trying to rape him, but who knows what else is going on. It's a little different, but you know.

It's fucking incredible. You should have seen the look on my face when I was fucking 11 and I heard that. So they don't rape us. So they don't rape us. And she's just smiling and I'm like, what? She's like, well, yeah, they rape you. You know, you hide in the hay or whatever. And I'm like, in the fields?

I'm like, you're hiding in the fields from rape? Jesus Christ, this is horrible. I guess Hulk Hogan's not that important. And then she goes, sometimes they kill you. Like, you know, there's that, too. So it wasn't just rape. I was like, oh, as long as it's not just rape, then yeah, obviously. I was like, what am I hearing? That was the first time, then yeah, obviously. I was like, what am I hearing?

That was the first time I heard about that shit. I'm a bit young for this, Grandma. This is a bit much. But she used to tell me stories about getting beaten, but they were comedy stories, by getting beaten by her crazy shit. Different time, different – but anyway. So Marcus, unlike me or my grandmother or you, was very good at basketball. Okay.

Like me or my grandmother or you was very good at basketball. Okay. And his friends tried to convince him to, his friends tried to convince him to not be a drug dealer and to play basketball. Like, look, man, you're, we suck. Like we're terrible. We're fucked. We have no options. No options.

We have to do this. Try to play basketball. You've got a talent. Run with it. Yes. And he knew that basketball was his talent, but also he knew that his friends had money and things like that and clothes and just things that you want when you're a kid. You know what I mean?

And he's a young kid, but he still wants it. He goes to Long Beach High School in 1991. Mind you, he is not even 16 years old yet, by the way. He has two daughters that year. Holy shit. Not one daughter has two daughters that year. Holy shit. Not one daughter, two daughters in 1991. In a 12-month stretch, he put two children on this earth. Two different young female human beings.

At 16 years old. Holy Christ. He produced on his own. Unbelievable. At like 15 and 16 years old. Unbelievable. Being like a freshman in high school. Jesus.

So, yeah, that's fucking nuts. So while he's doing this, he's in high school and he's trying to play basketball, but he has two daughters and everybody's making a bunch of money. So he's got to sell drugs. For sure. You got to sell drugs while you play ball and make some money. And he starts selling drugs. He says that some days he made up to $1,500.

Some days $300, $400. But he made. He's killing it. He's killing it. He's crushing it, especially for there. That's more money than any of these fucking people have at the time in his neighborhood. That must have been a good deal. He's got two mouths to feed.

He's got two mouths to feed. You know, he's got two mouths to feed and he's still interested in what's on Nickelodeon later tonight. So this is a problem. You know, like this is fucking weird. December 20th, 1992, I found a box score. Real quick, this is where the similarities between him and I end. Yes, yeah.

You weren't getting laid at 415. No less impregnating anyone. Not just not getting laid, but not getting laid to the point of getting the opportunity to have two children. Two. That's a lot of sex. Two children. That's a lot. That's more sex.

Because you're not knocking them up with the first two times you have sex. He's poor, though. The more poor you are, the higher your sperm count, I feel like, is the way it works. You're banging out kids all day long. I really feel like that. I swear to Christ. Your income is directly proportional to your sperm count. I don't know if a higher sperm count means you can't make more money or if you make more money, your sperm count drops.

Very similar to the size of your property and the size of your pet. People with giant-ass houses have toy version of a fucking poodle or a chihuahua or whatever. Whereas people in a fucking trailer got a Great Dane in their backyard. It's like, why do you have that? Why? I've never known anybody who's like, you know, those broke couples that are like super broke. And they're always like trying to make ends meet. I've never heard of any of them, quote, trying to have children.

Right. But they all have a shitload of children. They have a brood of them. It just happens. Yeah. Whereas I hear people I know with money are always having children and having treatments and things. And that costs $10,000 a shot. And you're like, holy fuck.

Why are you doing that? Good Lord. Kids are like stray cats. They're everywhere. What are you doing? Holy fuck, man. Why are you doing that? Good Lord. Kids are like stray cats.

They're everywhere. Like, what are you doing? Like, you can't. I feel bad if you can if you really want one. But it's like, fuck. I don't know. Give some of your shit away. And then your sperm count will go right up.

It just goes up. Eggs will start being more fertile. Stop paying your fucking credit card bill. You'll be off again in a minute. Your uterus will be a wonderland if you stop paying your credit card bill. So I found a box score. Don't listen to us. No, don't do that at all.

Don't do what we tell you to do. We're complete idiots. December 20th, 1992, I found a box score, actually, from a high school game in southern Mississippi. How the fuck did you find that? It was not easy. Let's just say that. It was in a newspaper, and I really had to look. Crime and sports.

Gmail.com. Patreon.com slash crime and sports. For me at dot com. Patreon dot com slash crime and sports. For me at four o'clock in the morning finding this shit. So I saw they played Harrison Central High and he scored, Bullard scored 27 points. Okay. They lost 94-93. Wow. But he scored 27.

And you know it was a buzzer beater that won that game for him. Probably. He's 6'3", 200 pounds, and a really nasty point guard. At 16 years old? When he's full grown. Oh, okay. He's built stocky, though. He's one of these guys that's got thick bones.

He's a stocky-looking dude. He's built stocky. Everybody says he's built like a linebacker. Okay. Like he's that type of dude. He's like a taller Nate. What's that Nate guy? The little guy that could dunk?

Nate Robinson. Yeah, like taller than him, but like that. He's like a thick dude. He's a point guard, good ball handler. He controls the offense, that sort of thing. Isaiah Thomas. Yeah, he's skinny though, Isaiah Thomas. The new one?

The new guy? Oh, no, no. The father was the skinny little shit. The guy that's in there now, he's thick. All those guys are on HGH like a fucking bastard. None of them are thick. They're all jacked like crazy. It makes amazing dunks.

It does make amazing dunks. Keep it going. Stop with the drug testing. That's true. Basketball, I just would rather them just not do it because they don't need it. I don't know. It just makes them have more injuries, I feel like. Have you seen fucking LeBron's arms?

It's insanity. You know what? It makes them be able to play longer. So let's just say that. Well, if you want to see LeBron for three more years, then let him do HGH. Never mind. Is the side effect of that shit hair loss? I'd like to know that.

No, no. On the head? It depends on what you're taking. Because his hairline is fucked. It's garbage. There's 400 different things you can take. It depends on what you're taking. Some things kill your fertility.

Some things boost your fertility. Some things make you lose hair. Some things make you grow hair. Some things give you tits. Some things don't. It depends on what you do. I saw the pictures of him at the Halloween party dressed as It, the new It. That was LeBron, by the way, that picture that we shared.

And he picked the perfect costume because the hairline, all he had to do was paint some hair. Make it red. Yeah. He has horrible hair. The worst. So he's scoring 27 in a game. In high school. He's a high school star.

He's doing well. He's got two kids to take care of. He's a very busy guy. He's got to in a game. In high school. He's a high school star. He's doing well. He's got two kids to take care of. He's a very busy guy. He's got to play the game. He's got drugs to sell afterwards. As a matter of fact, on April 1st, 1993, he's very busy. As a matter of fact, he's busy selling crack cocaine to an undercover cop. Of course he is.

That's not good. No. Not considered one of the best things you can do for your, also, too, for your recruiting for college. You're not like anybody who's got a crack conviction we can bring in here. That won't get you a state championship. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. Get you state charges.

And he's charged, as a matter of fact, with possession of cocaine with intent to distribute. Yeah. So they're trying to bang him hard on this, too. As a dealer. They're trying to fuck him real nice here. trying to bang him hard on this too as a dealer they're trying to fuck him real nice here uh it ends up later on being plea bargain to simple possession okay because it's his first you know like real big offense like this yeah uh in the exchange for it's for probation he gets for that and he pleads guilty to the lesser charge and for probation and uh in that probation too he's not

allowed to carry a firearm of course at all. So keep that in mind for later. As a high school senior, because that was the end of his junior year, but his senior year, this is all going on. It doesn't end up getting taken care of in court until after basketball is over in his senior year. Oh, that's convenient. Yeah, I see silver behind this. Do you see some silver? Oh, it's glistening. I see a silvery man walking around very sparkling maybe we could push this back maybe a silvery man in a small town that maybe like you know knew the prosecutor from wherever

and they had lunch together he said hey maybe you could push that one back a few months wait a few a little bit i know the kids can't be selling crack cocaine like they you know they're all the kids with their crack cocaine it's the rage nowadays it's all over but you know can we just push this one back a little because we got to got to play Harrison Central next week. We've got a trophy to win. He drops 24. So, anyway, he drops a lot because in his high school senior year, he averages 36 points a game. Holy shit. Smoking.

I mean, that is just killing everybody. I mean, in high school, that game was 90 points. That's very rare. They all score 90. Yeah, you have to have two good players that just dominate everything. Two guys that drop 36. Guys that average 36 in high school. I mean, that's a guy.

Clearly, he's on the next level. Clearly, he's a college player, and he's playing amongst a bunch of children who are doing this for extracurricular. And he can dunk, for fuck's sake. Yeah, he's nasty. He's athletic. He's built for this, and they're not. So 1993, while this is going on, he has a son too. Oh, fuck.

Hey, you know what? He's almost done with high school. Oh, my God. He's almost done. Why can't he have three kids? Three. What? He's almost done.

Oh, my God. He's got this locked down. 36 points a game. I am 36 years old. I have two kids. If my wife told me that she was pregnant tomorrow i might think about suicide again that's what i want nothing to do with three kids well no he's like 17 years old that is crazy with a 36 point a game on average and a crack cocaine sale possessions our convictions so

he's really growing up fast holy shit let's just This is bananas. He's crammed everything I've ever done, plus being really good at basketball, into 17 years. Very impressive. And throw another kid on top. Yeah, and another one. I don't have three. So, yeah, he has a son. Also that season, he is dismissed from the team for disciplinary reasons. Oh, Christ.

If you're averaging 36 points a game at a small high school. How bad do you have to fuck up to get kicked off the team? Worse than having three kids. You have to knock up the coach's daughter. You have to. Yeah, that has to be the coach's daughter's kid. And it can't even be consensual. Right. Like, 36 a game, he's going to overlook consensual.

He got her pregnant against her will. I know. I'm always finding booze in her room. I know she's fucking loose out there going around. Not his fault. But fuck, that's like he forced himself on your daughter and knocked her up. That's the only way that that could possibly happen, averaging 36 points a game. He had charges pushed back for this guy.

This, no. I draw the line. Something's really bad. Fucked his daughter hard. Yeah, for sure. Against her will. Absolutely. So he's dismissed.

August of 94, the cocaine charge comes to a head. In front of him. In front of him, yeah. He walked in on it. In the showers. He walked in and his daughter was going, please stop. That was when he walked in. Oh, Christ, we're making rape jokes.

No, we're not making rape jokes. What have we done? We need to clarify right now. We need to stop. This is not making rape jokes. No, we're not making rape jokes. What have we done? We need to clarify right now. We need to stop. This is not a rape joke. No, it's not. This is a disciplinary action joke. We're making fun of the coach and his fucking...

And how much they love their fucking athlete. Thank you. We're making fun of the coach and the fact that you can fuck up so bad and not get dismissed. And the fact that he did get dismissed. Holy shit, it must have been terrible. It had to be crazy. Maybe we went a little far. That happens.

I apologize. And then we maybe went a little bit far. We don't condone rape of any kind at any point in the world. So sorry about that. We apologize. We had to clarify. We had to clarify. That was terrible. uh he's sentenced

here for the cocaine charge to three years probation yeah so that's a good amount of probation yeah that's a lucky fucking that's a nice that's a cushy little sentence yeah he pled that's a that's a plea deal here he's supposed to report twice a month to a parole officer that's a lot of reporting and also this forbids him like we said from carrying a weapon of any kind yeah and there's likely going to be some drug tests coming through too i would assume that's the parole i'm assuming you gotta go drop your drop piss as they say yeah yeah like when dennis wise is out on parole in the wire and he's once they want him to do cocaine he's like sorry i gotta drop piss and they're like you think we all don't have to drop piss motherfucker

again sort this then they go see the old guy who's got the vials of urine in his coat from preschoolers that they collect. That's clean piss. How do you get preschooler piss? I have no idea, but it sounds like something super gross. And there's a weird old man in a trench coat with like 20 vials of preschooler piss in it that sells it to you if you're on parole and you like to do cocaine while you're staking out a guy that you're going to shoot later on.

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And this is, you know, he got dismissed and he missed a part of the season. So 2,695 total points in high school, which is a shitload. He was named All-State twice, which is great. He holds the Long Beach High School records for points, for rebounds with

933, assists with 846, and steals with 283. He's the best player that ever played there, hands down. He leads them in everything except blocks. Does he lead Mississippi State altogether? No, no, this is just that high school. Just that high school. But does he have any records in the state of Mississippi?

Not that I know of, no. Not that we're shown on his deal. I didn't look up the Mississippi numbers and compare them. I wouldn't do it either. Fuck that. There's probably somebody better. Mississippi State record. Over the next few months, his parole officer,

Constance Taylor, we'll hear from her again later, said that Bullard did not show up for his scheduled meetings for eight months. Eight months. Eight months. That's 16 meetings. Exactly. That's a lot of meetings to miss. Constance, how do you not go after him after, I don't know, number two? No shit. Number one,

I mean, you could call him and be like, hey, you missed your meeting. Number two, be like, we're sending the cops. Hey, there's a warrant for your arrest now. Right. Yeah. You're going to jail for the next three years. But in this state, when you're a basketball player, and when you're having, you know, your coach

likes you, and also, too, when you get recruited by Mississippi State, I think things might fall by the wayside, possibly. And Coach Williams here, who is of Mississippi State, who is as silver-haired and middle-aged as they fucking come in both appearance and action, silver-haired, middle-aged white man to the extreme. He says at first that nobody in Long Beach told Mississippi State staff about his drug arrest. Oh, we didn't know. We didn't even know he got arrested for drugs. How would we know? Because you're recruiting him, you fuckface.

You don't ask questions. Basketball teams have 12 fucking guys on them. You find out shit about those guys. You only need three questions to find out if they're worth the fuck ever been arrested. He just got busted for coke, that guy. You can go ask people in the town. You know him? The kid who got busted for selling coke to a cop?

Yeah, that guy. We know him. Oh, all right. Never mind. Moving on to the next kid. We're Long Beach. This is a tiny community. Yep.

Everybody knows he's a nudnik. That's everybody. He's described by coaches as, quote, having the body of a linebacker, like we said, and such durability that he almost never came off the floor. Wow. He's got car. I don't know if he's got a lot of cocaine pumping through his system. He's playing the whole game.

He's playing the whole game. Dante Jones, who ended up playing pro, he was drafted in the first round that year, played for the Knicks, bounced around the league a little bit. He was one of their big stars this year for Mississippi State. He said, quote, he was probably the toughest guy on our team. He brought it every day. You knew in practice that Bull was going to be your number one competition. Bull was his nickname. They called him Bull because he's like a fucking bull in his Bullard.

So there you go. Oh yeah, that makes sense. So it makes sense. They call him Bull. So yeah, he was an effort player, a tough son of a bitch, a stocky guy, very physical. Lots of stories about him like in basketball, if you're not a basketball fan, they set a screen which is

let's say you have the ball and a guy's guarding you. A guy on your team is going to stand there while you kind of run around him and you try to block the guy who's blocking you, if that makes any sense, who's trying to guard you with the guy. They said he would just run through screens and give guys concussions. Wow. Just knock guys out with running through screens. That's awesome. Lower his shoulder and blow your ass away. I love it.

Which is great. Maybe not in practice. You don't have to be concussing your ass away. I love it. Which is great. Maybe not in practice. You don't want to be concussing your own teammates. Maybe go, in the game, I would have knocked you down. But now it's fine. Be aware of that. So anyway, he goes on to play for Mississippi State, which is a big, big university.

We had a Nick from there before, didn't we? I believe we did. Or was it Ole Miss? It was Ole Miss who had Jim Dunaway, the football player. Yeah, he killed his wife. It wasn't Mississippi State. Or maybe he killed his wife. Yeah, he fucking killed his wife. Yeah, he football player. Yeah, he killed his wife. Or maybe he killed his wife. Yeah, he fucking killed his wife.

He killed his fucking wife. Definitely killed his wife. Definitely. So, 94-95 season, big-time college basketball, Division I. This isn't some horse shit. This is NCAA. This is playing for the fucking— This is the real deal.

You're playing for the tournament in March. You're on ESPN at 2 in the morning. This is the real fucking deal here. You're on ESPN 7 at 2 in the morning. This is the real fucking deal here. You're on ESPN 7 at 2 in the morning. This is where you want to be. So he plays in 30 games this season, 5.4 points a game because he's a freshman. He's coming off the bench. 2.2 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 0.8 steals per game.

Not a lot of sports in this show, by the way. It's very few and far between fleeting. There's going to be a couple seasons of this and then on to the police plotter. And we'll mix that in with this, too. Don't worry. You don't get much in this story without crime coming out. The team that year goes

22-8, which is fantastic. It's good enough to make the NCAA tournament. If you're not a basketball fan, March Madness with the brackets. What everyone in your office is doing in March, that's what we're talking about now. He's in that. They're the No. 5 seed in the West. Wow.

So, yeah, that's not bad at all. That's great. And 5 seeds are known to get upset by the 12 seeds a lot, but not this particular team. Mississippi State, they also have Eric Dampier on this team. Oh, he was great. Who came into the NBA. They had Dampier. They had Dante Jones. And they had Bullard, who was their point guard.

I don't know why I don't know Dante. I don't know. He wasn't very good. Was he on the team with Hubert Humphreys? No, he got drafted, I want to say, in 97. Late 90s Knicks, like after the post-strike. He played in those post-strike years that were better. Okay, he played when I fucking gave up on the bullshit. Yeah, when everybody kind of was shaky in the NBA.

So they're No. 5 seed in the West. They beat No. 12 seed Santa Clara, where Steve Nash is from. And this is, I believe, right before Steve Nash got drafted. So I believe Steve Nash was the point guard of that Santa Clara team. I'm pretty sure. Was he one year? This is 94-95. Okay, you were saying 97 was the other guy.

No, this is 94-95. This is when Steve Nash was playing here. Oh, you were saying 97 was the other guy. No, this is 94-95. This is when Steve Nash was playing here. So Bullard and Nash were probably at some point guarding each other. They were both point guards, too. So that's interesting. So he's guarding a future NBA MVP here. So they beat Santa Clara 75-67 in round one.

Round two, they play No. 4 seed Utah. So No. 4 and a 5 seed. They beat Utah 78-64. I wonder who was on that team. So of them pretty was keith van horn where was he really in the nba i can't think of anybody from utah matter of fact i want to say keith van horn was a utah guy wasn't he big goofy white guy played for fucking everybody because he was just a yeah he was like the poor man's christian layton yeah which isn't saying a lot. They were the, in round three, they have to play the number one seed UCLA team from that year. And then it goes to shit and they lose 86-67.

They get pummeled pretty good in that one and they don't go all the way to the sweet 16 or anything like that. But for Mississippi State, they're not a basketball powerhouse. For them to beat two teams and go two rounds in, and especially to beat a seed that was higher than them in Utah, why not? That's a decent—and they're a young team. They're locked and loaded for next season. That's what it's all about.

Yeah, and by the way, Van Horn, Utah, 94 to 97. So he would have been on that team. That's right. So he played—Van Horn was nasty in college, by the way. He was ugly as shit, too. Oh, yeah. He was vicious in college. He looks like. He was ugly as shit, too. Oh, yeah. He was vicious in college.

He looks like a fucking big, lanky opie. He is. That's exactly what he is, a big, lanky opie. What a terrible-looking man. He is, man. He got worse. He got worse and haggard as he got older. That's a guy that, like, everybody says men age well. Some don't.

Not ginger men. No. Ginger men age terribly. They fall apart. Sorry, redhead guys. I know we've got a lot of Scottish, English, Irish listeners, but you guys get to be about 50. You look like somebody exhumed you.

Also, too, just so you know, sperm banks don't take your sperm. That's a fact. No, they don't want you. They don't want you. There's a special little dumpster they put in an outback. Not even with the other dumpster with the other sperm. No. They have a special one.

They tell you we'll send you a check for this semen if it gets picked and it never gets picked because they throw that shit in the trash nobody wants that nobody wants your ginger seed so uh 95 96 season he hasn't gotten in trouble in a couple years that's a start that's good uh he becomes a starting point guard okay Okay. His team to run now. Starting point guard, you're the quarterback of the team. Yeah. And he runs the floor. Got a big C on your chest? He runs that fucking floor, man, like crazy. He plays in 34

games, 12.1 points a game for a point guard in college. That's damn good. 3.9 rebounds. A point guard at all? Point guards don't score. That's not your job. Not in college back then, especially with a couple of big scorers like Dampier and Jones in there. And 3.9 rebounds a game. That's unbelievable. For't point guard at all. Point guards don't score. That's not your job. Not in college back then, especially with a couple of big scorers like Dampier and Jones in there. And 3.9 rebounds a game. That's unbelievable.

For a point guard, because that's how thick he is. He'll follow that shot. He'll knock people out of the way. 5.1 assists per game. That's great. Solid. And 1.5 steals a game. Great.

So, I mean, that's your point guard. That is nasty right there. For these two seasons, his conduct is, quote, quote exemplary is what the coach says uh but it wasn't quite exemplary behind the scenes let's find out what was bubbling okay behind the scenes with an in their own words oh great let's do this in their own words quote the things that i was doing drinking staying out late not handling my business in class just a lot of little things adding up to become something big i I was headed down the wrong path. Everybody saw it,

but I didn't see it. He didn't see it. He did not see it. And he didn't see it. They rarely see their own fuckery. No, later on they see it. Oh, that path. I don't know where I was thinking.

Later they look back and go, oh, look where I am. There was a sign on the beginning of that path. Like it was lit up and everything. I just kept on walking. It was the emergency ward when you gave birth to your first child at 15 years old. That's your sign. Here's lit up and everything. I just kept on walking. It was the emergency ward when you gave birth to your first child

at 15 years old. That's your sign. Here's the problem with this and here's why these guys never see this, athlete-wise anyway. I don't know why other people in society in general, but athlete-wise because let's talk about the 1996 NCAA tournament and why people feel above

the law, for lack of a better term. So they're the No. 5 seed in the Southwest in the tournament. Same seed, but they had a better record this year. They faced No. 12 Virginia Commonwealth University VCU in the first round. They beat them 58-51. That sounds like a boring game. And low scoring and not that high ahead of a team they should kick the shit out of.

They play No. 13 seed Princeton after that. Some rich, smart kids. Yeah. So you know they want to thump those assholes. And that's in 97? This is in 95, 96. This is the 96 NCAA tournament. I don't think there's anybody there. Princeton?

No, you're not going to know anybody on Princeton probably. They crushed Princeton 63 to 41. That's why. They scored 41 points in a full basketball game. That is like a girls' high school score. It's fucking terrible. 75 to 41? 63, 41. That's why. They scored 41 points in a full basketball game. That is like a girls' high school score. It's fucking terrible. 75 to 41? 63-41.

63. That's not very great. Not good at all. That's a boring game. That's boring as shit. Well, it's fun if you love Ole Miss. I guess so, yeah. I was watching them win.

Southern Mississippi. Isn't it Southern Mississippi? No, this is Mississippi State. Mississippi State. Okay. This is Mississippi State. It's not Ole Miss. No, no, not Ole Miss.

Not Ole Miss. And they get confused for Ole Miss all the time, and it drives them crazy. They were going deep in the tournament, and were making like go thanks for being fans dickhead there was hats that appreciate you bandwagon it's ridiculous sweet 16 they play the number one seed connecticut now yukon was nasty in the 90s there, and they beat UConn 60-55. Not too fucking shabby, right? That is impressive right there. So now they've beaten three teams. They beat the number one seed, because the first two

is 12 and 13 seed. So you're going, okay, you beat five rich white guys in Princeton. Big fucking deal. 13 seed. Who cares? Now they beat UConn. Now it's like, oh, whoa, take a step back now. What are we talking about here? With Connecticut dispatched, they go on, and they're going on to the final four. Yeah. Final fucking four, Mississippi State.

Mississippi State. And what were they ranked, 16 or 17 or something like that? They were a five seed. Okay, oh, that's right. You said that. In the tournament. But still. But in their division.

That's in their conference. Do you mean overall? Yeah. What were they ranked? I don't know what their national ranking was. They weren't ranked number one, though. It doesn't matter when you enter the tournament. Right. So, yeah, no, they were a five seed in their conference. Do you mean overall? Yeah. What were they ranked? I don't know what their national ranking was. They weren't ranked number one, though. It doesn't matter when you enter the tournament. Right.

So, yeah, no, they were a five-seat in their region. So, I mean, they were maybe 20 at best or something like that. Gotcha. But, yeah, so people are starting to get scared of them because no one knew who the hell they were or what anything they were about. They're going to play Syracuse coming up. And they're saying that they think they can beat Syracuse. And Cincinnati coach Bob Huggins, who's raised tons of criminals over in his little organization. Wow.

Lots and lots of shit going on there. He says, quote, if they keep playing like this, they can beat anyone. They were just rolling people. Bullard says, quote, I think it's great that people don't know who we are. We use it as motivation, as you might expect. So he's like, yeah, they think we're nothing. So that's the kind of thing here. Us against them, no one thinks, nope, they don't even think we're

a school. They think we're Ole Miss. Fuck this. They're pissed off. So March 30th, 1996 is the Final Four game against Syracuse. Syracuse is a number four seed. Syracuse is nasty coming in. They're really tough. Bullard has a terrible game.

Really? Awful game. He was great throughout the postseason, too. That's the shame part of it. In the whole tournament, he had 8.6 points a game, 7 assists, and 4.1 rebounds. And known as the engine of the team that whole tournament. The guy has eight turnovers in this game. You don't think they game-planned to fucking target that man?

That's right. You know they did. And they did. They got him. He had eight turnovers in this game. You don't think they game-planned to fucking target that man? That's right. You know they did. And they did. They got him. He had eight turnovers, which just killed. I mean, when you see the score, the final score is 77-69. Yeah. So that's eight turnovers worth right there.

You bet. And that's the difference right there. He was just distraught afterwards. I'm sure. He was distraught, but he was mad about it, actually. He was a stand-up dude about it. He didn't say, oh, the refs cheated me or anything. He said, quote, a lot of bad decisions on my part.

I made some bad choices. Yeah. I mean, summing up your life in that statement. That's the truth. But you look at that and you go, that's what you want out of your player. It's exactly what you want your player to say. I made some bad choices. Take responsibility for it.

I'm going to try harder next time. Is he talking about all those children he has and the drug charges? He said, a lot some bad choices. Take responsibility for it. We're going to try harder next time. Is he talking about all those children he has and the drug charges? He said, I made a lot of bad decisions on my part. I made three bad choices. Three. Four if you count selling drugs to a cop. Yeah, but one is really permanent. Three of them are super permanent. That one's

gone already. Well, I'm on probation, but keep in mind that probation. That one can go away. The other three don't go away for 18 years. He ends up this season, he has the 10th most assists in a season in Mississippi State history with 175. So if you look at Mississippi State basketball records, he's on there. His name right there. His name is in the number 10. It's the bottom of the list, but it's in there.

It's in there. Kentucky goes on to beat Syracuse in the final game. That was when they had Antoine Walker and Tony Delk in that whole squad there, Kentucky national champions. Delk was a little guy, yes? That was a guard, yeah. And then I believe, what, 97 was Arizona with Bibby and those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think after that.

So after the season, for the team, it's a tough offseason because they lose Dampier and Jones. Really? Which are their two big scoring studs. So that's tough when you lose the heart of your Final Four team. They leave after their junior years because NBA is called. Because there's money. They just went and played on TV in front of all the owners. So Mississippi State, you might not get another chance at that.

But they have Bullard. Yeah. They still got Bull. He's staying behind. The Bull is in the pen. He's ready to go. He's bucking. He's bucking. He's got snot drizzling out his nose. Oh, God. He's snort. The bull is in the pen. He's ready to go. He's bucking. He's bucking.

He's got snot drizzling out his nose. Oh, God. He's snorting like crazy. He's bucking back and forth, and he's doing this on July 19th, 1996. Oh, boy. He's actually doing a snorting and going nuts doing bull things at the Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity house. Oh, you asshole. Which he's a member of.

Yeah, of course he is. Of course he's a frat member. He's eating crawfish with friends. That's a southern fraternity right there. Sucking asshole. Which he's a member of. Yeah, of course he is. Of course he's a frat member. He's eating crawfish with friends. That's a southern fraternity right there. Sucking on a fucking crawfish head. Where else on earth would a bunch of fraternity guys be sitting around sucking guts out of shellfish? Honestly, think about that.

I love crawfish, by the way. I'll eat the fuck out of those. But I will not do it in a frat house. No, but especially when I was 18, I always wanted to sit around with my friends in a frat house eating crawfish on the newspaper. Can you imagine all the dick jokes that are being spun around while they're doing this? Terrible, man. Just a bunch of assholes. A bunch of assholes, and there's a few of them are like team guys.

He's like a hot shit basketball player. Team just went to the Final Four. The two big guys left, so he's the star of the team now. Sucking on crawfish. Sucking on crawfish. Sucking on crawfish. Again, the Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity house. Nobody can fuck with us until somebody fucks with them. Nobody can until...

Are they the boys in blue? No. Worse. Another fraternity. Oh, no. Oh, boy. This is like we got a grease moment here where they're going to have to have a Thunder Road showdown here.

They don't really do that, though. They sit and watch as another fraternity members drive up and drive back and forth across their lawn. Oh, fucking up their grass? Fucking up their grass, right? Bunch of assholes in togas. Yeah, hey, fuck your grass. I mean, this is the type of shit we're doing here now. They're all eating crawfish.

They fucked up my grass. This is some silly college shit right here. And what does he do? They argue back and forth obviously there's a there's a fucking big huge you know there's a melee of words they're screaming and yelling uh bullard uh he hears that one of the members of the other fraternity has a shellfish allergy he has yeah so i'm gonna get a crawfish and he started rubbing it all over his face. Jamming right up his white ass. He said, that's exactly what happened. Now, Shannon Alexander, he is stout. Can eat crawfish all night long, this guy. Shellfish, just stern.

Very good. Flies right through him. Strong system he's got, I'm telling you. Good constitution on this young man. Bullard said that he hears from one of the other fraternity members that Shannon Alexander had a gun on the other side. So Bullard went to get his gun. Oh, no. Why not?

What wouldn't you do? Why would you not go get your gun at that point? Should we do it in their own words? I'll tell you one reason why. Because you're on parole and aren't allowed to own one. That's a point. That's a good point. Well, let's find out what happened here.

In their own words, quote, about the same time, a lot of my frats were telling me that one of his frats named Kermit had a pistol. So he's a guy named fucking Kermit. So I went back to my truck and grabbed my pistol and came back up there. And Alexander started talking. And once he swung at me and tried to hit me, my first reaction was to grab the pistol. Once I grabbed it, I hit him twice. Oh, my God.

So he's pistol whipping. He's pistol whipping. It's a fellow student, too. What ends up happening, though, when this was this ended up go spilling over into an area where there was a pool party. When all these people came over to see what happened, all they saw was him holding a fucking gun on this guy. He just they just see an injured man and this guy holding the gun on him talking shit yeah which is not a good look for you party at a pool party it's a very very bad look everybody's in togas yeah that's what i see that's everyone's in togas

with like a cup of beer in their hand one of those red solos and they're like what the fuck this is way past what this is like is this a hazing thing is he trying to pledge pledging's gotten fucked up i I'm glad I'm a junior. I don't have to do this shit anymore. Wow. Fuck, man. He's bleeding, I think. This is rough. So, yeah, he points it at the rival fraternity member. Again, there's all sorts of

shit. Bullard says, quote, when 200 people at the pool party came running out, the only thing they saw was me with a gun pointing it at this guy. That's a problem. He said that instead of pulling the trigger, he struck him in the head with the pistol. He said, Jesus Christ, this is so stupid. Quote, at that moment, I think I would have shot him, but I thank God I didn't. That's five years mandatory. And Lord knows I can't do no five years. Lord knows I can't do no five years. Oh, my God.

Wow. The Dale Dave Chappelle bit just rang in my head. Black guys know the... No, it's a Burr bit, isn't it? That black people know... No, it's a Chris Rock bit. Chris Rock. Don't do that.

That's 5 to 10. It's a 55-year-old black guy I'll jump out from behind some. Don't do that. They know the fucking... The bid that it's... He did, too. I think I would have shot him.

But he said, but that's five years mandatory. Lord knows I can't do five years. Shit, no. Lord knows. Lord knows I can't do no five years. So then at this point, he's got the gun and then the other guys, the Kermit's friends show up. Shannon Alexander's friends show up. Miss Piggy and fucking, was it Fozzie?

Fozzie shows up and goes walka walka. Rolf is back there. So this is all happening. There's about to be a rumble. We have two rival fraternities, one of which just pistol whipped another guy. Shit is about to get out of hand. Jim Henson shows up with his hand buried in a fucking puppet's

ass. No shit. Exactly. He's there. What am I missing here? Bullard pistol whips him. And there's two guys in a fucking puppet's ass. No shit. Exactly. He's there. What do I miss here? Bullard pistol lips him. And there's two guys in a balcony commentating on the whole thing. Question is, obviously, question is, would you pistol lip Kermit or Jim Henson? Probably Henson. You have to, right? You know you'd go to pistol lip Kermit first, though.

Then you'd be like, wait a second. What am I doing? What am I doing? This is stupid as fuck. So campus police show up. That was a fun brawl. That was good. Campus police show up just as they're about to have an Outsiders, Greasers versus Socs

moment here while Ralph Macchio recovers from the fire. So this is all happening here. Dante Jones talks about it a little bit, his teammate. He says, quote, I was surprised he got into what he got into, but I could see it happening because he's the type of person who doesn't back down from anything. Yeah, he's a bull. That's the type of guy you want on the court. Fuck yeah. But, you know.

You don't want that guy holding a gun. You don't want him having a gun. By the way, campus police show up. He fucking takes off. Of course. Because he's on parole and he just got caught holding a gun to somebody's up. He fucking takes off. Of course. He's gone parole. He just got caught holding a gun to somebody's head. A warrant is issued for his arrest.

Oh, they already know that he was the guy. Oh, they have 200 people. They got too many at a pool party. The point guard for the Final Four team. That's the guy. Yeah, that's the guy. You know, the one who was on TV last March. That guy.

We call him the bull. That's three months ago. The bull. He's a father. He's got kids. Three of them. Cute kids. Really good. One's excellent excellent guy's a goddamn father holding a gun to a guy's head

second daughter finest piano player for a kid that age in the entire world she's a prodigy really it's beautiful very impressive so uh this warrants obviously like we said issued for his arrest he's there they want to charge him assault, and it violates his old probation for several reasons, especially the weapon. The weapon. The weapon's the big one. Dipshit. While he's on the lam, they interview the school, and they're like, you know, asking them, and they say, quote, it's highly unlikely that he'll be registered here in the fall.

Yeah. So. Our fucking star point guard has a gun? He can't be beating people up. But think about what the coach is going to think of that. He just lost two of his star players. You think he's going to want him back on the team? You're goddamn right.

He needs to find out a little bit here. But let's get to court first because he has some fun court times here. He's in court September 13th, 1996. He appears before Harrison County Circuit Judge Robert Walker. I love this Robert Walker guy, by the way. Now, the judge hits him pretty good here, and we'll find out why. He missed meetings with the probation officer before, and the judge didn't like that. Because if you're going to put a guy on probation, you want to know that he has the capability of showing up to these meetings.

Right. And that's what he's asking for, probation here. So he didn't do any of that. The probation officer came in and testified during a sentencing hearing about this that he began missing meetings during the 95-96 season when they went to the Final Four and that he eventually just stopped coming to meetings entirely like after the tournament and all that because he's above the law now, goddammit. We made it to the Final Four. The law doesn't count for me anymore.

Don't you know that? He's found white privilege and he has no idea. Yeah, legal for me now yeah that's the thing yeah there's white privilege you can brush that shit aside then that's just luck with your white privilege white privileges you don't get followed around if you're in a store and shit like that and other things too but i'm just saying breaking it down to the most basic silver privilege is people will actively go behind the scenes to extricate you from trouble that you've got in all of your own volition. And not just that, they'll pull people away from following you in that store. Absolutely.

That's the thing, man. Silver privilege is the privilege I want. Everybody needs silver privilege, man. So he says about this, his excuse is, quote, I was basically caught up in basketball. I was knee deep in every woman I could find. Are you kidding? You know how many people I impregnated just last spring? It's amazing. It's incredible. I'm going to

have a new team all of my own. He said, quote, I know that's no excuse for missing. And then Williams, his coach, Coach Williams, testified on his behalf. What? This is some silver shit here. I quote, I probably was remiss in not making sure Marcus did not go to all of his probation meetings.

That was my responsibility. No, it's not. No, it's not. He's a 21 year old guy. He's an adult. He's 21 fucking years old and he's on probation for selling crack cocaine. Once you sell an undercover officer crack, you're an adult now as far as being able to make a meeting goes.

You know what I mean? I'll go further. I'll go further. When you go to a parenting class and they teach you how to not kill a baby, you're an adult now. He's got three kids and a crack conviction. That's an adult. And the fucking hospital gave him classes how to keep another fucking human alive. You think he showed up for the fucking classes?

You're probably right. He did not show up for those classes. They gave him the pamphlet. He was like, all right. And they used it to roll a blunt with it or something. They tried to put him through dad boot camp. And he's like, this looks flammable. He ripped it up into pieces and packaged small amounts of cocaine with the pamphlet.

That's what he did right there. Yeah, the cop that bought cocaine from him is like, what's this daddy boot camp? What's this? Oh, wow. It's a pamphlet on how to keep your kid alive. You might need that. So I can't believe that, that Williams testified that I was, it was me. That's how silver he is.

That's silver privilege. A respected man in the community will go to court for you and say what he did illegal was actually my fault. I did it. I realize I'm the coach and respected and I have a lot of shit to worry about and 12 other guys and everything else. But my bad. I really learned my lesson. I got to keep, I have an appointment book where I keep everybody's shit straight.

Bobby, call your mom. I have that set. Anybody else here? You have to, your grandfather's sick. Make sure you call him. Hey, and Bull, make sure that you test that milk on your wrist before you give it to your child. Ricky, if you picked up your dry cleaning, they said 2 o'clock.

You should do that. So the judge didn't agree with that, actually. I can imagine. The judge didn't agree with that. The judge said, too, quote, this is after Williams testified, I've received love letters from a lot of nice folks. It appears that at times you can be an ideal role model, he says to Bullard. Bullard said, quote, I was wrong for my actions. I would ask the court, which whatever they do decide to please take it easy on me. The judge has something else. The judge says, quote, I don't feel sorry

for you, Mr. Bullard, because you have received more breaks than one person is entitled to receive. You have no one to blame but yourself uh he revoked his probation uh and sentenced bullock and sentenced bullock to two a year or bullock did i say bullock you said bullock it's not sandra's brother no it's not sentences bullard to two years in prison holy shit yeah he said fuck you uh i'm gonna teach you a legit lesson yeah and uh under and this under the state law though he must serve only half of this time. It's still a year in prison. It's a full season.

The last words that the judge said to Marcus as he left the courtroom were this is beautiful quote. Good luck to you, Mr. Bullard. I sincerely mean that you may go. He said you may. He said you, sir, may fuck off. That's what he said. You may go as judge for you, sir, may fuck off.

I'm sorry. He duck-holidated him and goes, you may go now. You may proceed. Proceed, Baba. Bullard sobbed when he told him this. Bullard was sobbing. And the coach was standing next to him with tears in his eyes, Williams. That's how Silver, he's like, he's taking away my final four-point card.

I need him. I need him so bad. He's such a good ball handler. You don't understand. Nobody runs his own defense like him on the back. He gets the top of the key so well. He's starting to figure out the triangle. He gets penetration.

Do you understand that? And now back to the show. People freaked out. Yeah. They were pissed. Yeah. His supporters came out of the woodwork. Silver hair.

Imagine the silver haired middle aged white men coming down from the hills. The prosecutor himself recommended that he be placed in a boot camp style program that includes counseling and drug education. The judge went against the recommendation of the prosecutor and went further. Told him go to prison, fucker. Prosecutor said, we don't think he needs prison time. Let's just rehabilitate. And the judge said, oh, no, no, no. Fuck this guy.

I feel like Williams tried to influence the situation and the judge was like, no one's influencing shit. Now he's going to prison. Fuck him. This is spiteful. I feel like Constance Taylor, the parole officer, was criticized because she filed an affidavit about him missing his probation. So they were like, how dare you? You fucked this up for us.

People were mad at her. Mad at her. She said, quote, nobody put Marcus in the penitentiary but Marcus. Fair. That's incredible. Good for Constance. Super fair. Fair.

That's incredible. Good for Constance. Super fair. Bullard, even Bullard's high school coach, Bob Cuccaro, he came to court and vouched for a character witness for his goodness. He's just a good kid and he's a great kid, except for when I had to kick him off the team and all that other time when he sold crack to an undercover officer. What part of it was good? Well, he scored 36 points a game.

That was good. Fuck. His character includes scoring a lot of points. That's it. That makes it fine. Now, on going to jail, we have a nice in their own words here. This is good stuff here. In their own words, quote, that was the most horrible feeling I ever felt.

I really couldn't imagine me going to jail or anything like that. I felt like I didn't have anything worth living for. I didn't want to talk to anyone for a long time. Just stayed to myself in a little two-man cell. Just a lot of thinking. A lot of things running through your mind, everything you've ever done to put yourself in that situation. Maybe it's not that one big event, but a lot of little things that add up, like a lot of pressure on the pipe, eventually a bus. Fair. That's actually pretty insightful.

I feel like he was forced to go see a prison psychologist, and that's what he came out with out of that, and then released that as a statement. With this doctor, I figured out maybe what's wrong with me. I may be making a breakthrough, but I'm still probably going to fuck up. So he's in jail here after two fistfights with inmates. Wow. He has some fistfights with inmates, which he's a big athletic guy, fucking prime of his life athlete. I'm sure he's hurting some people. Prime of his life athlete. I would not want's hurting some people. Prime of his life athlete.

I would not want to fight that guy. Well, he's just surviving in prison. That's what he's doing. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's got to show. Yeah, and he's a young guy and all that. He's got to dominate. So he's transferred to South Mississippi Correctional Institution, which is interesting for him.

It's a homecoming of sorts because that's where his older brother, Lloyd Jr., is serving a 15-year sentence for manslaughter. Holy shit. Lloyd's a murderer.year sentence for manslaughter holy shit so lloyd's a murderer well a manslaughterer lloyd slaughtered a man and uh that's what happens when you name your kid jr yeah he slaughters a man and then his little brother ends up in prison too jesus doom the whole family that's what happened they named one kid lloyd jr everybody else is fucked after that uh while he was in prison though he ran bullard runs into friends classmates that's when you know you're from a shit area yeah when you go to prison you're like hey holy how you been well i haven't seen you since fucking science class in the eighth grade this is amazing what's

up brother what the fuck is that so that's yeah he's running how you been i'm wearing these bracelets obviously not well yeah he said literally like people who we knew like they lost touch with like hey it's junebug again this is great unbelievable so i said all of them knew about him and his career and mississippi state and everything like that yeah he said quote half of them are encouraging me you know keep your head up don't let this get you down do this time and go out there and pick it up again a lot of them had had their chances in life uh and things like that but they just wanted me to make it he said you know a lot of like hey had their chances in life and things like that. But they just wanted me to make it. You say, you know, like, hey, we're fucked.

But you can make it from here. Do it, which is actually good. Encouraging him. I mean, maybe they're trying to help him out. Maybe he's got some behind the scenes shit. Maybe he can work some things out like an early release. Like maybe he can get a hot shot into the into the into the prison, have somebody get killed and then set up a prison guard to take the rap for. And then you rat on him and you get released early like Avon Barksdale with a fucking wire.

God damn. It happened. That's right. Jesus Christ. Search that guy's car. Avon got out early. All right. He was home, God damn it.

Lock down that shit. Marlowe's coming. He's coming. All right. I get it. I'm going to have to watch this shit so so uh he says bullard says about prison quote you had your good guys that you could hang around uh that were there to do their time and go on with their life also you had some guys who didn't care uh wanted to be there didn't care about nothing you have that out there you have that in there so it really doesn't

stop at the penitentiary door so he's like everybody's a it's the same shit there's just more fuck-ups in there here uh dante jones actually his ex-teammate actually talked to him periodically yeah he said in touch he said that uh bullard sounded upbeat which he's gonna just probably sound like hey i'm cool man i mean you're drafted in the nba now in the first round i'm good uh i'm doing okay i got all my friends from high school here you know it, it's cool. I know everybody. He said you never know where he was calling from because he's not going to let you know. If something is hurting him, he's not going to let you know it. So he's just trying to keep the exterior.

Except for that part at the beginning when it says you're receiving a call from whatever prison. Oh, he meant that it's hurting him. Oh, okay. Like where he's coming from. Like never know where he's calling from. Oh, I know where he's calling from. He's not going to let you know. Yeah.

I think he meant from us he's definitely calling from prison because you're paying for it because it's collect motherfucker yeah do you accept the charges i know exactly where he's calling from jesus uh christ he went from his two-man cell in the small jail when he's in prison to going into a zone of a of a prison with 120 inmates and four toilets now he's got a lot of other guys shit all over him. That's not good. He said, quote, it's so it's just so wide open. There's no telling what somebody might do when you're sleeping.

I just thought of something. It's one of those big dorms. Yeah. Four toilets for 120 guys. You're talking about. It's not cells. It's just a shitload of beds. Yeah.

It's just like a barracks. And if there's reincarnation, I hope horrible people come back as one of those toilets. Oh, God. Can you imagine if the shit dropped in there? That thing is just flowing all day. Constantly flushing. 25 people. 120 inmates per toilet.

I know, but you're talking about 25 more per toilet. Yeah, 25 asses per toilet. Oh, God. That's at least 25 shits a day. So bad. And you know one of these guys is those three-time-a-day shitters that's constantly going. That's one an hour, man. There's a line for that thing, man.

That's, oh, Christ. I hope Nancy Grace comes back as one of those toilets. She deserves it. That'd be great. I would like to see her big mouth as the opening, too, with the big eyes there. You can't stand her. I'm going to piss in her mouth. So he says there's no telling what somebody might do when you're sleeping.

You've kind of got to sleep with one eye open and one eye closed. You just try to stay on the other side with the guys that are really focused on looking forward and getting out. Fair enough. Oh, my God. He tutored GED students while he was there in prison and worked in the kitchen and the gym. So, I mean, he's probably one of the few guys there that's actually had a couple years of college. You were in the final four, man. Like last year.

And now you're talking about I sleep with one eye open. Teaching GED. So one of my GED students doesn't stab me. Doesn't knife me in the middle of the fucking night. Yeah, doesn't shank me in my lung. So yeah, he said he stayed clear. He says he stayed clear of trouble except for one incident when he was playing basketball. Yeah.

Which this is in prison, not the jail. Right. Two fights. He said another inmate, quote, was mad because I was beating his team real bad. He punched me, then I wiped him out. I bet. Especially when he's in basketball mode. He's going to fuck you up, probably.

He said his greatest fear was of trouble that he couldn't get around. He said, quote, what if one of these guys with a life sentence tried to approach me? I ain't about to let him harm me, so I've got to protect myself. Bam, there I go with five years mandatory or a life sentence. My God. He is fucking concerned. He says, once you go through the penitentiary, you learn how to appreciate more things in life.

You just don't want to go down that road again. You want to do whatever it takes to stay focused on whatever your goals may be and on doing the right thing. Yeah. Dare I say it? I'm good now. He's good now. He is fucking good now. damn it uh now coach uh

richard williams that we talked about who i've been calling dickie bill to myself richard williams is dickie bill in my book i'm sorry my all my like research i'm just like sorry what dickie bill say about this i met a guy named named uh rich was it? Was it Richards? Is it Richards? Johnson's. That was his first name. Jesus Christ. Johnson's Richard. Somebody named him Dick's Dick.

Dick's Dick. Like on purpose. That's terrible. They went out of their way to name him Dick's Dick. We wanted everyone to know that he's got a dick name. Everyone. James. Just in case.

A dick name. That's right. God damn it. So. He is Dick's Dick, like plural dicks. Yeah. He's a Dick's Dick. That's what he is. That fellow's a Dick's Dick.

Now, let's tell the tale of a silver-haired, middle-aged white man, Coach Dickie Bill of the Mississippi State Bulldogs here. He says he talks to Bullard about every 10 days or so in prison and corresponds with him even more regularly than that. Bullard about every 10 days or so in prison and corresponds with him even more regularly than that. Yeah. He says they become so close through the ordeal that Bullard signs his letters, quote, your son, Marcus.

Oh, boy. That's where that's that's over there. Yeah. Wow. Now, Mississippi State, as there's a reason for this, they go from 26 and eight in 1995 to two, 12 and 18. So, yeah, they're going to flip and 18. So, yeah. I thought they were going to flip-flop that. And Dickie Bill doesn't acknowledge that that's the reason why he keeps Marcus close at all.

Of course. He says, quote, Marcus is part of our family and I want him back on our basketball team. I'm certainly not a young coach trying to win games to save my job. Sure. I feel a commitment to Marcus Bullard. It's about him. It's not about me. I know what kind of person he can be and what kind of person

he is most of the time when he's not pistol whipping people or selling cocaine. I also know what kind of person he can be when he's playing for me and how my team is when he's not playing for me. Terrible is the answer to that. I know there's something in Marcus Bullard worth saving. You know, his jump shot

possibly or his defense. Then he knows that it sounds ridiculous. He says, quote, as hokey as it sounds, I think that's what the education and coaching business is all about. Not about winning games at all. Not about boosters up your ass, alumni. Not about sponsors and Adidas giving you your fucking shoe deal and giving you the money. Not about any of that. It's about education and coaching and taking care of troubled youth.

Okay. And then he goes, delete all this, please. No, no, no. This conversation is terrible. I'm really ruining this. He said, I know it'll be taken as nothing but self-interest, but it's not. Yeah, it's not self-interest at all. So the next season, March 29, 1997, Mississippi State is

not in the tournament. This is while it's going on. They're about to play the Final Four game, the first one. He's now in a prison one year later. He's in Building 10 at Leakesville, Mississippi. On the grounds of the South Mississippi Correctional Institution. Instead of wearing

number three, he's got 5-1-6-0-3-A. That's his number. And number 5-1-6-0-3-A. That's his number. And number 5-1-6-0-3-A dribbles up the court. Wow. Not great for that. That's a really terrible jersey. Nobody's buying that jersey. No one's buying that, especially the A.

It's like, is that necessary? Is there a B? He says he has a lot of regret, of course. Coach Dickie Bill said, quote, I just got a letter from him, and the first thing he said was how hard it was to watch games on TV. He talked about how much he let me down and let the team down. He's supposed to be scheduled for release on August 12th, 97. William said he would love to have Bullard back on the teams, but it's by no means certain.

He said, quote, we've made a commitment as an institution to help Marcus complete his education. We have not made a decision about his athletic career. Schooling. Yes. Athletic a decision about his athletic career. Schooling. Yes. Athletic. No. Fucking so important. Like you're going to let him go to school without playing.

Right. Yeah. Fuck you. Exactly. Fucking silver haired middle aged white man my ass over here. So he finally is released in August actually. Yeah. Mississippi State allows him to return to school.

But Williams the head coach has a condition on this. Yeah. Dickie Bill here. Fucking Dickie as shit. If Biller didn't play basketball when he returned to school, then he would have to pay to go to school. Oh, is that right? He could go to school.

And for free. And for free. As long as he's got those Adidas on. If he elected to play, then he would be on scholarship. So that's basically it. So Williams said, quote, socially, he would have to show us that he's going to do what he needs to play, then he would be on scholarship. So that's basically it. So Williams said, quote, socially, he would have to show us that he's going to do what he needs to do. He backed the man into a corner. Of course he's going to play because he can't fucking afford that.

But he desperately wants to come back, he said. But he decided he couldn't afford to sit out another year because they wanted him to sit out a year and then come back after that. So he walked away from Mississippi State because he wanted to go play somewhere else because he knows, Jesus Christ, my window is shrinking. I've got to get hooked up to an NBA team before I get arrested again. I need a contract. Yeah, he said, quote, that was difficult. That's where my heart is at, Mississippi State.

It still is and always will be. William said, now he's trying to play it like we didn't let him come back after that. This is all through the timeline. It's amazing. He says, quote, we felt like if we had let Marcus come back and resume his playing career immediately, we'd be sending the wrong message. Bullshit is what it was. That's bullshit. Yeah. He said he had to be on the floor, Bullard, and he didn't care what it took, whether it was NCAA, Division I, Division II, NAIA basketball, Mississippi State.

He said, if you can play, the scouts are going to find you. And that's the truth. And they're going to have to look real hard to find him where he ends up. In October 97 he ends up at Auburn University at Montgomery. Ever heard of that? No. Shit no. It's not even the name of the school anymore. No it's some other horse shit now. It's just

Montgomery University or Tech. Whatever. Tech U Auburn Montgomery State. I don't know what the fuck it is. At least it's not a sugar cane field. That's true. They're not growing radishes there. So they're not an NCAA member. They are an NAIA, which is the National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics, which is like

sounds like the intramural squad, like as opposed to the real team. Canadian Basketball league or fucking whatever although they have some certain history that's kind of cool in 1948 they uh they actually opened their uh their things to black students to the black student athletes their teams uh john wooden famous you know ucla greatest college coach of all time started at indiana state there uh and ended up obviously coaching there. He brought the first black student to play in a national basketball tournament. That's awesome.

Yeah, it's really cool. And also to women, too. They were big. Who gives a shit? They began sponsoring. They were the first to begin sponsoring intercollegiate championships for women in 1980. So they were the second co-eds thing, but it was behind the National Junior College Athletic Association, not the NCAA. So there's a guy here.

Let's introduce silver-haired, middle-aged white man, number, God, probably five in this guy's life, Larry Chapman. Larry Chapman is the coach for this Auburn Montgomery Horseshoe NIA team. He's coached for Montgomery Auburn Tech U here. He's making $12,000 a year. He has another job. Yeah, he moves furniture at night. This is his second job. And he's been head coach for 20 of the 22 years that there's been basketball at the school,

and he still has to have another job. My God. Bullard expressed interest going to the school because, you know, anywhere that would take him. Chapman said he spent a week in Bullard's hometown of Long Beach, Mississippi. I picture him like a detective going around a little notepad, talking with former teachers, friends, relatives, doctors. On PTO from his other job. Yeah, yeah, he had to take time off. He had to take time off.

He is getting paid for it, though. He built that PTO off for this very specific reason. PTO to go scout. Who talks to somebody's fucking doctors? Yeah, I don't even give a shit. I can't even tell you if that's my patient or not. It's a privileged asshole. Yeah, it's called HIPAA, you motherfucker. Dickhead.

Finally, this Chapman tells the Auburn's president that Bullard is worth taking. He said he's worth the risk. He said, quote, when I began to investigate and I began to look into his closet, it was not a difficult thing for me personally with Marcus Bullard. I didn't struggle at all with bringing him into my basketball family. Same day that he signed, though, there was an outside the line segment on ESPN focused on athletes that were violating the law all the time. And they briefly mentioned Marcus Bullard in this exchange, which did not help at all the scrutiny on Auburn, on this tech U state university here.

This is why there's fluff pieces. Yeah, exactly. Because when you're honest, it's detrimental. It's detrimental as fuck to this. People were pissed. People were pissed at that coach, Chapman, who's also the athletic director of the school, so that's his second job. He said he was on the hot seat.

He said, quote, I was wearing two hats in this situation. I had to deal with damage control within my own universe because they were attacking him from the inside, too. He said, Chapman said that Bullard has had nothing but a positive attitude through the whole thing. He said, quote, he's not whining. He's not acting like AUM, which is Tech U State here, is beneath him. Whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. He said he's appreciative. he's sincere he violated parole that's what he said like he's he served his punishment and as far as i'm concerned he's been punished enough god damn it that's what he said

actually besides the dot damn it all these positive things and then violated parole god damn it was mine there nobody's ever said that about me no you'll never use that to describe me as i violated parole no no no shit say a lot of bad things about me but that's not one of them he violated parole you have to be on parole to begin with first of all you have to violate that fuck that up uh so chapman here uh is he's also this guy likes to bring in stray dogs and cats basically he's a longtime participant in a non-denominational ministry for prisoners in the Alabama State Correctional System. Good Christ. Speaks to a lot of people about that.

It's really – he's really into this we can give him a second chance type of thing. Somebody's seeing the blind side. Yes. He's just searching for anybody that's on the down slope. Well, he's at a shit school he's got like the Raiders mentality of the 70s like if I can find a cast off who's too much of a fuck up to play anywhere

but if I can deal with that fuck up and contain him for a year I'll get some lightning in a bottle and maybe get a job at a half decent college where I don't have to fucking work at Wendy's on the side so awful this poor guy. So he said Bullard is doing great on and off the court. He said, I don't have to beat a drum for Marcus Bullard.

If he's not ever pointed a finger at anyone else, he said, look, I made a mistake. I paid. He's a free man. He's like, you'd be nice to him, God damn it. He's never pointed a finger, but he's sure enough pointed a fucking gun. He sure did that shit and also beat a guy with it. So he's taken a lot of troubled players before, but he

said that Bullard's an NBA caliber player in a league that doesn't normally see NBA caliber potential, so this guy could have a gun on him on the court. He's still going to say he's fine. Chapman said, quote, we'd be a good team without him. With him, he's the kind of guy, an impact player, who can make us a contender to win some big games. No shit. We'd be a good team without him. With him, he's the kind of guy, an impact player, who can make us a contender to win some big games.

No shit. We'd be a good team without him, but we'd be much better with him. We'd have a final four-level point guard. October 31st, 97, he plays in his first preseason game. Bullard says about this, basketball is basketball. No matter where you are, Division I, II, or

NIAI, N-A-I-A, sorry, mix those letters up. It's so cute. Because it's confusing as fuck. It is. He said, I love this game and I want to play it. I'm not just looking at the little picture right now. I'm looking at the big picture, which is for me the next level.

That's how I stay focused. That's how I keep a positive attitude. He said this is his last opportunity and he knows it. And let's get it with an in their own words. Quote, being being a convicted felon. I know I can't do the same thing as the average student would do. I can't go to parties and those type of things. I'm just focused on my basketball career. Basketball has been a savior for me. It's the only thing I really love to do. My goal is to try to take full advantage of this opportunity and make it to the next level.

Shit, yeah. The gym holds 4,000 people, but the team averages about 200 fans per game. Oh, that is fucking cavernous. The information... You hear every shoe squeak. Come on, asshole.

Nice shot, dickhead. You hear everything. You could heckle the fuck out of them. You hear them setting up plays and shit. Yeah. He said, for one contest, this is the information director of the school, for one contest, quote, we didn't have 30 people there. Ouch.

That is sad. In a room that holds 4,000. That's like a bad local comedy show. It sounds terrible. I've opened for a big name comic who's a storied historical unbelievable. He's an unbelievable comic. I'm not going to get his name because the story sounds shitty in a room that holds 550

and there was 60 people there how the fuck can he book the 550 he's doing fine trust me you need shit point is he up all night doing this shit you're going to protect him to me

you're going to protect him to me Jimmy the point is the room that holds 4000 with 30 in it that's got to feel so shitty. There's more players than coaches. There literally is more players than coaches. Between both teams? Yeah.

They're outnumbered. The fans shouldn't be outnumbered. His 97-98 stats for this school, 25 games, 26.6 points a game. You bet your ass he's paid his debts to society. 3.4 rebounds a game, 4.8 assists, 3.0 steals. Three steals a game. That is robbing people. Six to eight NBA teams have inquired over the course of the season about Bullard,

which is crazy. I'd like to know which one. Yeah, six to eight. Still Coach Dickie Bill, he said he isn't certain about his nba potential he says uh he says 99 or 2000 this is uh this is 97 98 okay he says quote he's a 6 3 200 pound guard there are thousands of those he has to have something that sets him apart and i'm not sure what that is which is true there's a lot of those guards that are just good feisty though yeah feisty you never know he's the type of guy could catch on in Europe and then three years from now

could end up in the NBA. A lot of guys like that in the league that have made it. He ended up being the basketball Kurt Warner. Yeah. He says, though, quote, wow, but Williams, Dickie Bill said that, quote, regardless of what happens with the pros, he believes Bullard's life will have a positive

outcome. Want to bet? Quote, obviously. James has heard the rest of the story. He said, quote, obviously I could be wrong about it, but I believe he will. I have faith in him. I know how hardheaded he can be, and this is something that he wants. Want to bet? Yeah.

He says, Bullard says it's all about his three children, his two six-year-old daughters, his three-year-old son, who all live with their mothers, respectively, three different mothers, in Bay City, in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and Long Beach, Mississippi. My God. Three different cities. He said, quote, they are very important, Bullard said of his children. Wow. He sees them as frequently as he can. He says, the main reason why I'm out here working hard, I know I can't financially take care of them the way I want to, but everything I have goes to them.

I know I can't spend enough time with them, but I'd rather be there for them a year or two down the road. He could have stopped that whole statement after I know I can't take care of them. I know I can't take care of them. It's going to get worse. Going to get worse. He's got a 2.9 GPA, which isn't terrible for a basketball player. He says, quote, I'm telling you I will be in the NBA. Okay.

He says, I'm going to get there. I'm going to die trying. Okay. Okay. January 98, his team is playing a highly ranked in the AIA ranks, Life College. Okay. NBA scouts are there specifically to see Marcus Bullock. For him.

This is his display, his night. He's all the way back from jail. Now here's his time. He's ejected in the first two minutes of the game. Two minutes. He does not make it two fucking minutes into the game. He got ejected. Doesn't make it two fucking minutes into the game. This asshole. That's way worse

than fouling out. And the whole thing, they just got those scouts over the point of maybe he's got bad character to get them there. They don't even get to see you dunk or something first or make a great pass. The first thing they see about you is you getting kicked out of the fucking game because you're an idiot. Wow. February 8th, 1998, Bullard is forced to quit the team.

Okay. He's forced to quit the team because he's arrested. Oh, Christ. He's arrested when a search of his dorm room turns up weed and weed seeds, marijuana and marijuana seeds. He's charged with a Class A misdemeanor of possession of marijuana. He could face up to a year in jail. He is released on a $300 bond that day. When asked with – they asked Chapman if Bullard was going to be back on the team, and Chapman said, quote, I'm dealing with a guy's life, and this is pretty serious stuff. I have no idea.

I can't answer that. Anything's possible. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know. Maybe. He drops 26 a game.

We're going to see what happens here. Depends on the charges and the sentence and, you know, anything's possible. Anything's possible. Anything's possible. Bullard said, in their own words, quote, I don't feel too good right now. I really haven't slept in about three days. I was just sitting there thinking about all the players and the coaches and the joy they bring to my life. This is basically all I have now. I have nothing to go home to.

He's fucked. He says he slipped up bad in the last month. He stopped going to class. He just kind of, why? Because he was playing really well. Yeah. When he plays well, he goes, I don't need to do the things I need to do. What am I doing this for?

Because I'm playing well. They'll fix it. Yeah. People will fix that shit for me. It goes away. And it happens, too. April 1998, Montgomery District Attorney decides not to prosecute the marijuana charge against Marcus Bullard. Yeah.

Damon Williams, a deputy district attorney, filed court papers to say that they were withholding prosecution in the case. Bullard now that he's free and clear, plans to attend the NBA pre-draft camp in Chicago in May and makes himself eligible for the 98 draft. Sweet. He's going to be a hot commodity. No. We've talked about the 98 draft before. Low stock. Michael Oacondi number one player that was a bad one mike bibby

antoine jameson that hold uh some good pigs uh white jason williams a white non-criminal jason williams paul pierce white chocolate was what he called himself what a dickhead what a fucking complete idiot great ball handler one thing that is missing out of these two rounds of a draft is Marcus Bullard. He doesn't get drafted at all. European guys. They took a chance on Olo Candy before a guy that's got criminal charges.

They drafted a guy named Maceo Beston. That's funny. Before they took him. Oh yeah, absolutely. He doesn't get drafted. So 1998, he's out. Goes home. Obviously. Before they took him. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He doesn't get drafted. So 1998, he's out, goes home, obviously. Not a good move. So his brother's a junior. He's got three kids.

He's going home. He hasn't found religion yet, thank fuck. But he does find a guilty plea in 1998 to possession of crack cocaine. My Christ. Crack cocaine, 98. More crack cocaine. It's going downhill fast real fast he receives three years probation yeah out of the crack cocaine bust uh 2001 he's back on the horse

though yeah he signs in venezuela okay first of all he hasn't played ball in fucking three years organized ball he signs in venezuela with the Delfines de Miranda team. I don't know. That's the team he plays for. Sounds good to me. There's no stats from Venezuela. Believe me, I looked and I can't find it. It's got to be terrible. He plays there for a season and he leaves.

I'm sure he got arrested for something stupid. For sure. You know he got fucking arrested. He got kicked out of the country. Probably. They were like, send this asshole back there. some dickhead communist country couldn't even fucking handle him like he's a dick bag so he goes back to the states taylor swift is soaring high her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans she's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process.

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He's just like I hear he's working at a trucking company. Like all I can find is rumors and innuendo about him. There's an article about the, you know, where are they now, the Final Four team. And these guys in the NBA and this guy's in the NBA and this guy's a financial advisor. And this guy's a coach for this college team. And this guy is an ex-convict that runs a trucking company. Like works at a trucking company. Works at.

He don't run that shit. He's not like Rick Bowe going to get his shit together. No. Was that Bowe? That was Bowe. That was Rick Bowe going to get his shit together now. Was that Bowe? That was Bowe. That was Riddick Bowe, working for CRST. This all happens up until 2004 when he is arrested

again, this time for cocaine and ecstasy, for selling cocaine and ecstasy now. This is not the first or the last, but yeah. So he's now sitting in this, this nets him a couple years in prison. Of course. Of course, obviously. You've got a history with the shit. You've got to figure it out. Yeah, he's now sitting in this, this nets him a couple of years in prison. Of course. Of course, obviously.

So Jesus Christ. You got a history with the shit. You got to figure it out. Yeah. He's a fucking mess, man. What a disaster. It is. It is.

But luckily for him, in 2004, when he is sent away for this ecstasy and cocaine, what is he fucking thinking? I guess I know what he's thinking. He's thinking, I have no future. Right. I can only get jobs where I make $8 an hour. I to make money i have three fucking kids um i gotta do something the only thing i know how to do is sell cocaine and ecstasy i can i can weigh this i know how to do that that's a fact i got i'm bad at math but i'm sure it's shit triple beam scale i can rock that shit i

know exactly where to put that little fucker uh so he does that. I mean, the good thing is it's not the dorm room setting he's in. He's actually in a cell all by himself. You know, the two-man like he had earlier when he was, like, isolating himself, which is nice because there you can get visitors. Oh. You can get visitors. Like, one night he's just sitting there. They open the door. He thinks it's a cellmate, and it still does, but it's not.

It's Estevez Jones, MMA fighter and 70s blaxploitation film villain. And he says... Motherfucker, how is it you come to arrive here? Man, what the fuck is wrong with you, man? Serious. No, no, no, no, no. Let me... No, no.

No, you southern motherfuckers. I can't be taking this shit so i'm from chicago understand now i don't understand you southern motherfuckers at all eating crawfish pistol whipping what the fuck is wrong with you man what you doing huh you selling cocaine ecstasy that shit that's evidence man you got to sell women don't you want you sell women those are people that can then say he wasn't selling me. See, cocaine ain't going to say he wasn't selling me. That's never happened once, motherfucker.

You stupid. Tell you what. Cocaine ain't got a voice box. You can't. Nothing, man. You come to my house when you're done. I'll give you my shit. I'll give you my info.

You come to my house. I'll put you on. Maybe get you a little stable of your own because I see you working hard on the crime, and I appreciate that. So you do that. Poof. And a puff of mink and gold, he's gone. Out of there. Leopard print everywhere.

He's gone. Blaxploitation. Blaxploitation film villain. That's what he is. He's the guy who runs the neighborhood in the 70s. That's my favorite word. I love that, too. So he gets out.

Yeah. He does a couple years in there. Estevez Jones's words are swirling in his mind. I love that, too. So he gets out. He does a couple years in there. Estevez Jones' words are swirling in his mind. He has a couple... You know how it goes. Fucking resonates. It does. He resonates with you.

When somebody comes up to you and goes, motherfucker! You're like, oh, shit, yeah. You start a conversation with motherfucker, and it smacks like that. Motherfucker! Motherfucker! Yeah, like 70s Blaxploitation film villain style. Then you're throwing down. And he'll put you

in a rear naked, you know, he'll dope you up too. Put you right in a choke hold. Catch you in a guillotine. Boom, done. He's got that too. It's tough. It's very tough.

That's how he controls the women. Guillotine time. Come here, honey. So he manages to stay. He has a couple brushes here and there with the law. Nothing major. No giant felonies. Just stupid stuff. But nothing that couple brushes here and there with the law. Nothing major.

No giant felonies. Just stupid stuff. But nothing that really pops up on the radar that much until December 26th, 2012. Jesus Christ. This is an out of the blue one. Basically, a car pulled into a driveway. Yeah. And as it pulled into the driveway of their own home, another car pulled up and fired four shots at that car.

Oh, shit. Hitting the car four times, not hitting any of the occupants, but hitting the car, and then the car fled the scene. Guess who was in the car? Oh, no. Guess who fired the fucking shots? No, that car. Of course it's Marcus Bullard firing shots out the goddamn window at someone, And they put it as fired shots, quote, at an acquaintance. Sweet Pete.

You have to be more than acquainted with someone to shoot at them. You know the guy. Yeah. You don't fire at the person you know. You have somebody else to it. And this is December 26th. There's still Christmas lights up. He could have hit a fucking plastic sand on the lawn with a stray over here.

This is terrible. Jesus Christ. The police say they have no a stray over here. This is terrible. Jesus Christ. The police say they have no motive for the shooting. Nobody will talk. The guy who got shot at won't talk about it because it's a fucking drug thing. They're not going to tell on anybody. It's going to have them watching him. Bullard has no – he's not talking about it.

They get an arrest warrant for Bullock because the guy – people saw his car. They got his license plate. They know who he is. But they couldn't find him. He is on the lam again. It is December 2012 on the lam. OK. May 2nd, 2013, federal marshals arrest Bullock.

Oh, shit. They find Bullard. Bullard. Did I say Bullock again? I want him to be Bullock so bad. Federal marshals arrest Bullard and they take him to Harrison County Jail on May 2nd. So May 2nd. So May 2nd. So he was gone for five months.

Five months. He was out there. Yeah. He was booked into the Harrison County Jail with a bond of one hundred thousand dollars. Shit. And by the way, that. No. Well, the reason why he can't pay and it's so high is because at the time of his drive

by shooting, he was on parole for felony drug charges for fucking felony drug conviction of the he's still on parole from the goddamn ecstasy cocaine charges that were rolled over from his other parole of the other thing that came out. This guy is just a ball of parole. He refuses to take advantage of his silver silver hair privilege. They've been trying so hard to get him out of trouble. They're trying to show him that this is much better than white privilege. And he refuses. Nope. Refuses. He's like, I don't want silver privilege. I don much better than white privilege, and he refuses. Nope.

Refuses. He's like, I don't want silver privilege. I don't even want white privilege. No. I want to be in this system that enslaves a fucking black man. I want to be treated as poorly and blackly as possible. That's why I want to treat you like I've been historically. He demands it.

He fucking demands it. It's fucking terrible. It's goddammit. You just want him to do better, and he's not. July 29th, 2013. By the way, somehow he gets out on that thing, on the drive-by charge. Then July 29th, 2013, he is sent back to prison for a parole violation again. Jesus fuck.

He has another violation. 2013, this is right after this, prosecutors fail to get an indictment on the drive-by charge. Oh, shit. They fail to get an indictment. They can't do that. Oh, shit. They failed to get an indictment. They can't do that. They can't find enough evidence? They can't indict him on it. No, they can't.

So it's funny because the guy won't talk. The other guy said he's not telling, but there's no other way. There's no victim. There's no criminal. That's the thing. No one will be a witness, and he's not saying he did it. Who's going to say he did it? So they don't get an indictment.

September 25th, 2013, the State Parole Board approved. Christmas Day. No, September 25th, 2013, the state parole board. Christmas Day. No, September 25th. Oh, they say it's December. All right. Go on. The parole board, state parole board approves his early release from jail. If there's anyone we need to get back into the community, it's this guy. Jesus Christ. He's transferred to the Harrison County Jail. He's held on bond. Then he's released. So he's out from September. He gets out. It's the last week of September 2013. By October 16th, 2013, he's fucking in trouble again.

Again. Again. He refuses to have a good life. Refuses. Not even a good, just a life that's not imprisoned. October 16th, 2013 2013 he's arrested on charges of possession with intent to distribute spice what spice not even coke not even not even real weed it's synthetic bullshit weed that's his idea he may as well be selling bath salts

what kids like that spice. That's what he said. And he distributes the spice like a fucking moron. You can't get arrested for this one. What a dickhead. So stupid, man. And not ecstasy, heroin. He had all the good ones before. He was really crack. He was selling crack like a fucking gentleman.

He ran it all the way down to spice. Shit they sell at a fucking head shop. Caught again. God damn it. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure it wasn't legal in Mississippi, though. No, no. Yeah, he's booked into jail on that.

It's the Mississippi Bureau of Narcotics is the arresting agency, which is not great. He's held on $50,000 bail, but he's not eligible to post bail because he's being held on a parole warrant from his old crack cocaine conviction he's still got that parole that's not going away he can't just ride one out i mean jesus no he can't just ride one out i fucking he's a mess he's why would a judge give him any kind of break never because he's gonna keep fucking fucking better not fucked over every

judge that's ever tried to give him a chance. I'm glad that second guy said you may go right there with a year. Think about Dickie Bill. Think about what an idiot Dickie Bill looks like. He's got to feel so dumb. He had to release 100 conflicting statements about how fucking – because it's so stupid that he thinks this and that. Chapman guy, he's a good guy. Anything's possible.

Even Venezuelan people feel stupid about this whole thing. What about the college, the Auburn, 26 points a game. Yay. All the Mississippi people that had his jersey and his picture and gone. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. All these people. But not nearly. Oh, no.

Not nearly as bad as I feel for Marcus Bullard. No. A crew trainer at the McDonald's Corporation in Springfield, Missouri. He's the only guy who works at McDonald's who can look down on someone with the same name. He's like, that guy sucks. At least I don't sell crack. Our Marcus should be that guy. Yes, he should be.

Or this guy, who I believe is the same exact person. Marcus Bullard, he just has a separate profile. Also works at a nonprofit for kids in Missouri. Think it's the same guy. He's such a sweet loser, this guy. Nice loser. Nothing like our guy, who's a dickhead winner. I'd rather have a nice loser than a dickhead winner, this poor bastard.

Marcus Bullard, a man from Cedaredar bluff who can't stop getting arrested for drugs he's a white dude named marcus bullard but he's in competition these two i really think we should get the like spy versus spy or the white one a black one in there they're each other's analog just going out selling drugs here a white one and a black one it's it's amazing he's trying to kill the other yeah yeah he gets busted almost as much as our guy. It's fucking awesome. It's awesome. He's like 10 years younger, so he's got time.

He'll catch up. It's fucking awesome. Fucking awesome. You know how many times I mistakenly pulled up his information? It's fucking awesome. It was like, what did he do now? I'm like, this isn't the same guy. They're Cedar Bluff.

This isn't fucking Mississippi. What's happening? That's fucking awesome. This isn't fucking Mississippi. What's happening? This is fucking awesome. And finally, worst of all, and I feel the most sorry for by far, is Marcus Bullard, who is a football player. Oh, no. I found him originally here starting out in 2011 when he played for Spring Valley High in Columbia, South Carolina.

Played linebacker. He's 6'3", 200 pounds. Wow. He's the exact same fucking size as him back then.. Played linebacker. He's 6'3", 200 pounds. Wow. He's the exact same fucking size as him. Built like a linebacker. Built like a linebacker that plays in Spring Valley High in Columbia, South Carolina. The same fucking name. Same name. Ranked decently by scouts. He had some trouble. He couldn't decide

on a college. He was hoping that Wolford would make him an offer. And a couple other colleges. Somehow ends up after a year of junior college or possibly two, I'm not sure, I couldn't make the timelines out of it, he finally ends up going to Clemson. Wow. Supposed to fucking Clemson, and he's a walk-on.

Against all odds. He's a walk-on on a top 20 powerhouse school. He's a walk-on. They call him, quote, the original walk-on because he's only played five games in three years because he's a walk-on they call him quote the original walk-on because he's only played five games in three years because he's a walk-on reserve but they love he's like rudy except for him not you know except physically capable it's not a way worse fucking idiot too not a complete asshole also i hate rudy so anyway he uh in 2012 he played two games on special teams played uh special teams at wake forest Forest game in his first career game.

2013, didn't appear in a game at all. Just sat there with his uniform all year. 2014, played three games on special teams. And this fucking guy, this poor guy. Bastard. Poor bastard. All you hear if you search for him, you're getting tons of arrest, arrest, arrest, arrest, arrest. Meanwhile, he probably got himself a great free education.

Yeah, he's doing great. He's majoring in parks, recreation, and tourism management. My man. Doing well in school. Using his walk-on status to get an education. That's the good Marcus fucking Bullard. That's who Marcus Bullard should be. That's our guy.

That's our guy. That's our guy. That's not. Not black Marcus Bullard or white Marcus Bullard. Spy versus spy. Drugs Marcus Bullard. We want this black Bullard over here. This black Marcus Bullard. He's so much better. He's terrific. That's not. Not black Marcus Bullard or white Marcus Bullard. Spy versus spy. Drugs Marcus Bullard. We want this black Bullard over here. This black Marcus Bullard.

He's so much better. He's terrific. He's great. Yeah, he's not the guy you get arrested. Pillar of the community. Oh, he's fantastic. So I also found here Jasmine Bradley, who played for Northwestern State, the Lady Demon basketball team for Northwestern State. She was a 5'8 guard.

Her senior year, she had a preseason ending knee injury. Of her stats here and her personal under her bio, this is shit I dug deep. It's personal. Quote born Jasmine Alexandra Bradley and date whatever daughter of Angela Spencer, Irvin Bradley

and has two sisters Shante Spencer and Aisha Bradley. Sister Shante is a nurse and cousin Marcus Bullard plays professional basketball overseas. Oh, that's her fucking uncle? That's her cousin. That's her uncle. It says her cousin Marcus Bullard. Okay.

But this was from like 2014. They just heard he played and they just said he plays overseas. They don't know him. They've never met him. Exactly. But I was like, that's his fucking cousin. She's bragging. She's bragging about that shit.

And she's from Mississippi also. So it's definitely them. That's our girl. She's our family. I would fucking say so. That's the one. May 12th, 2016, we have an early morning arrest here. Thursday morning, super early.

2016. 2016. Just last year. Just last year. In Biloxi, Mississippi. Biloxi, a police sergeant, O'Neal Adams, his first name is O'Neal, said that Marcus Bullard Born and bred cop.

Sideburns three inches above his ears. Shaved up high. Way up high. Three inches above. Like a guile haircut from fucking Street Fighter. It's like a fade, but only at the sideburn and the rest of its hair. Short, but still hair. He is arrested, says Bullard is arrested on charges of receiving stolen property after they stop his vehicle.

And well, first of all, he does not have a fucking driver's license, clearly, no doubt. But also the vehicle that he was driving is not installed. That's another problem he's got right there. That's going to be an issue. He doesn't even have a car. He doesn't have a license or a car. He's just I don't. Yes, I'm not allowed to drive and especially not this car.

This is not mine. They did not give me permission. This is I hotwired this thing. This is terrible. So he's being held at the Harrisonrison county jail where he's a regular they must know him oh god he walks in the lady doing hi betty yeah fingerprint away no no i know how to do it i got it they don't even have to put his head their hand on him i know roll it's wednesday it's meatloaf today right i know you roll the fingertip i get it yeah it's meatloaf

good yeah got the money i'll be still taco t All right. Just checking. So he's being held on $25,000 bond set by Justice Judge Bruce Strong. Oh, boy. Who he's dealt with before. Yeah. Which is funny. He gets out on bond. Oh, God. Somehow.

Some $25,000 bond. How do you get out on that? Who's fucking? It's got to be Dickie Bill. I swear to God. Somebody. Dickie Bill is wiring him money. It's definitely not him.

No, I would say not. If he had $2,500, he would be paying his own fucking fines and getting his license back. Yeah, maybe, I don't know, getting his kids something to eat. Maybe. Well, they're like 20. No, they're 15, 16 years old. Yeah. Yeah, feed your goddamn kids.

They're old enough to have kids. They need school clothes. They're old, yeah. He had three by then. Yeah, they take care of themselves by now. They're fine. They got three, four of their own now. They got so many radishes.

So many handfuls. I set them up in radish country. It's a real little plot. It's good. A lot of vitamins in radish. Oh, there's not? Oh, they're going to be super malnourished then, but that's okay. So Harrison, grand jury, a month later, found

insufficient evidence to indict him on a charge that he received stolen property with the vehicle. He's in the car. It's stolen. That's insufficient. What more do you need at that point? You need a victim.

You need somebody to say, I did not give him that car. I don't know what the deal is. This is stolen. You're driving it. That's all you need. One and two. One plus one. Bing, bang, boom.

Two. Done. To jail. Yeah, to jail. You may go. You may go now. So June 8th, 2016. That was May 12th, 2016. That was the driving thing.

June 8th, 2016, Gulfport police arrest Marcus Bullard. Oh, fuck. At about 1030 in the morning on a felony possession of meth. Oh, no. He's moved on from crack to meth, Jimmy. He's moved on from spice dealing to actually doing meth. Now he's just doing meth. He's moved on from crack to meth, Jimmy. Moved on from spice dealing to actually doing meth. Now he's just doing meth. He's like, fuck selling spice. I'm just going to rip this

shit up. And this is the first time a misdemeanor charge of resisting arrest. He didn't even want to go. They had to fucking wrestle him to the ground and tackle him. And he's a big, strong guy. Sweet Pete. Jacked up on meth and they had to wrestle this guy to the fucking ground. How is it you've come to arrive here?

That's the question. How? How do you do this? You had everything. You had every coach pulling for you. You were on television. Everybody on earth was pulling for you. Listen, nobody's pulling for us that's in power.

No. We got fucking listeners pulling for us. That's it. They fucking don't want us. People in any kind of power entertainment hate people like us because we're taking their power away because we don't fucking need them because we have an audience. They hate us. These people, holy shit. Holy fuck.

Everyone's trying to help this guy. And he can't do it. He refuses. He refuses to do it. He refuses to accept yes as an answer. He's such an asshole. This is unbelievable. He's such an asshole.

This is what I mean. This is Mississippi Black Ben Cousins. That's what I mean. The only way that this story would be famous is if he got drafted and then all this happened. You know what I mean? Exactly. The fact that he didn't get drafted, that's why nobody's heard this. Otherwise, he's Ryan Leaf.

Yeah. He's exactly right. If he played one game in the NBA, he's Ryan Leaf. Yeah, he's Ryan Leaf. But instead, this guy, he didn't even need to get to the NBA. Most of the guys need to get their money full in their bank account, and then they're like, all right, I'll do whatever I want. Now I can fuck it off.

Fuck you. I don't care. This guy had a good game in a tournament. He was like, don't give a shit. Fuck it all. Pistol whip him. Fuck this guy. Point my gun at you.

Here's some coke. Right. What the fuck is wrong with this guy? This guy's ridiculous. So October 6, 2016, he has a court date for said meth charges. Doesn't show up. Oh, boy. Just flakes it.

Doesn't even bother showing. I mean, who expected him to show, let's be honest. December 6, they finally get him. He's arrested for failing to appear in court on the drug charge. He had been out on a $50,000 bond from the last time, which I still don't know how he got. Like I said, all these $5,000, $25,000, they must have been rolling over since 93, since his first crack bust. Yeah, you got it.

That's good. We'll roll it over again. Hey, Marcus, good to see you again. We'll roll you right over. Don't worry about it. This time he was held ordered with no bond on this one because he's not even showing up. It's about time. Fuck that, yeah.

But that was December 6 6th uh december 15th 2016 he's released from jail on a fifty thousand dollar bond same fucking bond again how is it he a where's he getting five somebody keep him for fuck's sake somebody hang on to this asshole uh so now god knows where he is. He's out. That was less than a year ago. He's out and about. He hasn't been arrested that I can find since then or for anything major.

He's out in the world. Could be anywhere. And he still has to go to the court. Look under your bed. Could be Marcus Bowler with a meth pipe in his hand. He's got court dates looming. If you see him, because Coach Dickie Bill forgot to do this. If you see him, remind him to go to court and to go see his parole officer. Otherwise, remember, it's youroming. Yeah. If you see him, because Coach Dickie Bill forgot to do this. If you see him, remind him to go to court and to go see his parole officer.

Otherwise, remember, it's your fault if you don't. We'll update you later. Yeah, I have a feeling we're going to be updating you on this one. This is not the last we've heard of him, I don't think, at all. This is depressing. It's depressing. Marcus Bullard, world at your feet. You fucked it up.

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That's where I was going with it and you guys are the driving force behind it and you're doing really all the fucking hard work so thank you guys. Chrissy Ann Costaldi and Jess Landgren. Again, the two of them are fucking every week. Thank you guys. Incredible people. Hug you both. Thank you. And we're coming to Boston for you Chrissy. Yes, we will hug you.

We're going to be hugging you for sure. Jesse, you're a little farther away, but if we ever get down under, we are going to. Or New Zealand, actually. No, no. She's in Australia. I thought she was in New Zealand. No, she's in... How nice.

Thank God. She's just north of Victoria. What's up there? Oh, okay. Yeah, that's right. I forget where it's at. I'm so sorry. I forget the name of that town.

She's there. When we ever get down there, we are going to hug you, then punch a kangaroo. One and two. There's one and two on our list. Chris Edgecomb. Yeah, Edgecomb. Then kick Ben Cousins in the nuts. That's the truth. That's three. We's one and two on our list. Chris Edgecomb. Yeah, Edgecomb. Then kick Ben Cousins in the nuts. That's the truth.

That's three. We've got to find him. Sorry, Ben Edgecomb. I apologize, Ben. No, Chris Edgecomb. Chris. Chris Edgecomb. I apologize again to you and to Ben Cousins.

No, I don't. Fuck him. Sidney Woods. Sherry Bullock. Michael Friend. Marina Ayala. Chris, no, Scott Countryman. Nicholas Lamb Yorski.

Gavin Marsh. No, Ed Marsh, Edens Edibles. I'm not sure what they are. Find them and give them business. Yeah, weed cookies, something in those. I hope so. Weed cookies. Fingers crossed. I don't think it is. Brett Barker, Heather Rylander, Clarence Brunchley.

I think that's it. Brunchley. That looks like it. Angelo Flotta, Jane Richards. Renee Hurley. Lifan or Liphan? Liphan? Lipman. That's an M, not an H. What the fuck?

You wrote those, right? Lipman Media. I wrote every one of these. I can't write my own bullshit handwriting. I write like a two-year-old. Rebecca Wiggins. Adriana Garcia. Jason Brown. Rory Tulloch over in T's Tulloch Tulloch Tulloch I think that's it he's great though he did some awesome shit for us sorry for the ginger comments there Scottish guy Kimberly Blevins uh Paul Kinsella Juan Cruz Miranda no yeah there is Miranda Miranda Whittinghall Whittinghill Whitting. It's double T's.

I'm a fucking, how can I ruin that? Anyway, Darlene James. Hannah Ettinger sent some British dough. Thank you, Hannah. Thank you, Hannah, so much. Dana Grayson over there in Delaware. He sent some dough. He signed up on Patreon.

Thank you very much. I appreciate that, man. Helen Deacon. Ryan Bauer. That's a you. Ryan Bauer. Zach Klinistinen? No. Klein Bauer. Zach Klinistinit? No. Klein-Dinst? You made it sound like a terrible medical anomaly that happened to somebody.

It's not what it is. It's Zach Klinidinst, I think. Okay, that's better. Kleinidinst? It can't be Klein-Dinst, right? That's a terrible last name. Well, I don't think there's a good one in there, honestly, in any of those combinations. You can't even rearrange those letters to make a good one. I'm allowed to say that because my last name's a disaster, so it's fine. Stinklined? You can make that out of that. I don't know.

Joe Boyd? Jackie Burrows Anderson? Holly Hoffman? Louise? No, no, it's Louise. Louise. Louise Santos. That's it.

Louise Santos. Sarah Pignotti. Jazz Cruz? Mike Lipinski? Stephine? No, Stephan? No,inski, Stephen Dean, Noah Wooten, Wesley Sims, Swims. Wesley Swims. He's terrific. He's on Snapchat.

He's a good dude. Katie Martins, Lou Brooks over in England. Thank you. Adriana Garcia. I already said that. Alicia Stevens, and then Steven Imason. Steven Alicia after that? Yeah. Steven Amason. Alicia Stevens and then Steven Imason Steven Alicia after that? Yeah, Steven Amason

I think that's an I It's not Amason, it's Imason Pamela Ornelas Matt McLean Phillip Big P Little A No, Phillip Big P Little Ass That's right, that's what it was Anne-Marie Hoyt, Taylor Rae Foster

Sally Earles. Nicholas Strasberg. Kristen Reiboldt. Carol Feely. Jamie Singh. Annie Shock. Jen Vogel. Jessica Sharp.

Kim Comiskey. Like the park, right? Yes. Yeah. Maggie Kokaska. Kokaska. Kokaska. Kok.

You're just making noise. Kok. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kit. Kok-ka. You're just making noise. Kok-ka. Kit. Kit. Eh. Eh. Eh. Kokaska.

I don't know. Maggie, that's a difficult one. Jim Shaughnessy. Melissa Cole. Megan Stoneburn. Fucking Apollonia learning English over here. Sorry. My God's mother.

Megan Stoneburner is a badass name. Joseph Telligan. Chris Bennett. Kyle Knapp. Alexis DeVries. Brad Koch. Koch. Coach. One of those. Kendall Passmore, Danielle Longmore, Katie Conlin, Gregory with a brutal ass name, Garulat, I'm not sure, Cynthia Mixer, Kevin Whaley.

Oh, and you know what? Kevin Whaley is the one that sent us a fucking, is that right? No, that's Kevin Wagner over in New Jersey. Thank you Kevin Wagner. Dude, this is the coolest thing. James and I were laughing because you sent an envelope with an envelope inside with fucking cash through the mail.

He sent cash. It's like somebody's 90 year old grandmother. It's beautiful. And you wrote the note on the envelope, which is what my grandmother would do to save paper, which is awesome. Fucking incredible. We were impressed with that. But thank you so much, honestly.

God damn it. Heartfelt. Sam Pulley or Pulloy. I can't tell if that's an E or an O. I'm so sorry, Sam. Emily Jobe, Aaron Tanner, and Samantha Law. You guys fucking this week was fantastic. And I can't thank all of you guys for showing up to comedy shows for us coming out to support us

personally. Thank you guys honestly. Face to FaceTime is fucking amazing I love every second of it. Thank you guys so much for listening. If you want to listen to me tweet dumb jokes you can find me at WismanSucks W-H-I-S-M-A-N sucks on Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat. Thank you guys for following and playing along. It's been fucking

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