Crime in Sports - #95 - Fighting For Jail Time - The Damagedness of Rudy Poeschek
Episode Date: November 28, 2017This week, we skate into the story of a man who used every bit of his hockey talent to make it all the way to the pros, but unfortunately for him, he seemed equally committed to getting arres...ted as many times as possible, once his career was over. Brain damage, addiction, and a bit of a temper are all factors, but the end result is both sad, and hilarious. And never dull, even for a moment!!Punch whoever is closest to you, always run from the police, and make sure not to fall asleep in a mine with Rudy Poeschek!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at...patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGet all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.comFor Tickets To Upcoming Live Shows...CHICAGO 12/14Get tickets to Crime In Sports LIVE in Chicago on December 14 at http://www.lh-st.com/Shows/12-14-2017+Crime+In+Sports+LiveGet tickets for the LIVE Small Town Murder on the same night at http://www.lh-st.com/Shows/12-14-2017+Small+Town+Murder+LiveBOSTON 2/18Crime In Sports: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1589056?_ga=2.84751449.1576137293.1510029131-53581790.1510029128&__utma=1.876925325.1510029128.1510029128.1510029128.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1510029128&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1510029128.1.1.utmcsr=yahoo|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=255437192Small Town Murder:https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1589061?_ga=2.53771112.1576137293.1510029131-53581790.1510029128&__utma=1.876925325.1510029128.1510029128.1510029128.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1510029128&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1510029128.1.1.utmcsr=yahoo|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=255437192DETROIT 2/16Stand Up Show w/ Dan Cumminshttps://www.ticketweb.com/event/dan-cummins-james-pietragallo-the-magic-bag-tickets/7823825?pl=magicbagCheck out or site: truecrimecomedyteam.comAll web support by Web and Writerwebandwriter.com or Facebook.com/webandwriterContact us on...twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Let's talk about our guy for the night, for the day.
It is Rudolf Leopold Pocek.
Oh.
Know who he is?
No.
Ever heard of him?
No, not at all.
He sounds fucking royal, though.
Rudy Pocek is what he goes by.
Less royal.
Yeah.
Leopold, I think, is what threw you off.
Is he a white guy?
European.
Yeah, he's European.
Is he?
Okay.
Is it Czech?
Pochek?
Okay.
His last name is spelled P-O-E-S-C-H-E-K.
Jesus.
If there's a silent S, that motherfucker's white.
Guaranteed.
If he donated to us, I would ruin that for sure.
I would destroy that name.
It looks like Pochek, but I know just hearing of countless announcers, it's Poe Check.
Poe Check.
That's what they call him.
But yeah, Silent S means white.
Okay.
Silent S equals white, period.
Generally not a lot.
It's just the way it works.
That's a good rule of thumb.
It's a good rule of thumb.
He's got a couple of nicknames, which is interesting.
And I didn't hear him.
It's funny, because when you read about all through their career, you don't hear about like, oh, this guy nickname and like I played today.
But you'll hear like later on that that was his nickname.
So I'm like, did they just make that up?
I have no idea.
But I saw it in a million different places.
They called him the lion killer, number one.
He's a hockey player.
What the fuck?
And he's a – you were like, are we doing like a circus guy?
Yeah, what is this?
He's like, what fucking sport are we doing?
What sport is a lion killer?
No lions involved in this.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
There's never been a lion on the ice.
You would win if you were on skates and he was on the ice.
The only time lions have been on the ice is in Ice Age.
It's in the movie Ice Age.
It's a cartoon.
It's the only way you can beat a lion is if you're on skates and he's on the ice.
There's a saber-toothed tiger, too, by the way, in that movie.
Shark claws, you can dig in.
So anyway, one of his nicknames is Pot Pie.
What the fuck?
Which I don't know why.
These are the worst nicknames of all time.
Pot Pie.
What?
So Lion Killer is because he fights and he'll fight anybody, basically.
That's how he is.
He's crazy.
He fights guys.
But Pot Pie?
Pot Pie, he likes Pot Pies.
He's a hungry fuck.
He loves those weird peas that never cook enough, I guess. Yeah, that's a he is. He's crazy. He fights guys. But pot pie. Pot pie. He likes pot pies. He's a hungry fuck. He loves those weird peas that never cook enough, I guess.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah, they never cook enough.
Pot pies are never, they're either blazing fucking fire hot.
Or horrible, yeah.
Or they're horrific.
Or they're a mess.
And either way, when they're blazing hot, they're horrific.
They're horrific, yeah.
A pot pie is a terrible, terrible food.
No one's ever enjoyed a pot pie.
No.
They'll say they like pot pies.
They'll buy pot pies.
I'll eat a pot pie.
I'll eat a pot pie. That's what it is. You'll eat a pot pie, but you will not like a pot pie. You don't enjoyed a pot pie. No. They'll say they like pot pies. They'll buy pot pies. I'll eat a pot pie. I'll eat a pot pie.
That's what it is.
You'll eat a pot pie, but you will not like a pot pie.
You don't want a pot pie.
No one goes, I want a pot pie for dinner.
That doesn't happen very often.
It's never been your first choice.
Unless you grew up in the Depression.
I'll eat anything.
I'll eat a pot pie.
Everything we got, just put it all in and put the dough on top and bake it just fine.
Make a crust out of it. Make a fucking crust and bake it. We'll just eat it. Pret a put it all in and put the dough on top and bake it just fine make a crust
that's a fucking crust and bake it we'll just eat it pretend i don't care depression era people that
are that's the only time it's ever been the first choice it's because it's the last choice someone's
like there's shoelaces in here like it's fine just eat it it's okay eat your pot pie god damn it
charlie buckets would eat fucking exactly cabbage soup before he eats a pot pie.
So maybe that was the problem.
All they had was shoelace pot pie at his house.
So Rudy Pot Pie Pochek, the Lion Killer.
He is born September the 29th, 1966.
He's from Kamloops, British Columbia in Canada, obviously.
He's a hockey player.
He's going to be probably Canadian if you're dealing with one from back in these days.
Who's got a nickname of Pot Pie.
Pot Pie.
He's for sure a hockey player.
He is absolutely.
And Canadian.
And Canadian.
6'2", 220.
Wow.
So a pretty big dude when he grows up here and plays hockey.
Guys that big kill lions.
Allegedly so.
That's what I've heard.
That's what I've heard.
We won't pin any crimes on him yet.
It started out as hockey obsession at five years old.
There's a skating competition.
Yeah.
And he's in the skating competition because that's what you do when you're five and you live in British Columbia and you live in Canada.
You do every skating competition.
And he met up with, at this competition, Vancouver Canucks team captain at the time, Orlan Kurtenbach.
Okay.
A big hero of yours, I know.
Lots of Orlan Kurtenbach posters on your wall growing up.
He's very big.
But this is a big deal for him.
Yeah.
Because you're in BC.
This is Vancouver's team.
Yeah.
And it's British Columbia.
Yeah.
And he's the captain.
So you're-
That's your guy.
Yeah.
He was excited by this.
That's your Barry Bonds.
Yeah.
And I guess Rudy was a year younger than all the other kids in the race somehow.
He was a year younger.
So the guy, the Orland, Kurtenbach, like warmed up to him and was nice to him.
Great.
And treated like, hey, buddy, it's okay because, you know, whatever.
So he would help him out and was nice to him.
Take him under his wing.
Yeah.
Pochek said, quote, he took a real liking to me, and he was walking around the arena with me on his shoulders.
After that, my goal as a five-year-old was to play in the NHL.
Can you imagine?
So that's it.
Set.
Five years old.
Who was your guy from the Giants when you were five?
I can't even think of it.
Was he there when you were five?
Yeah, he came in 82.
Okay.
All right.
So, yes, if that fucking guy, if LT puts you on his shoulder
and fucking runs you down the field, you want to be a giant.
Don Mattingly would have wanted to play for the Yankees.
Oh, my God.
Get out of here.
That's it.
I'd lose my mind.
That's what I mean.
So this guy, honestly, he was a young boy growing up in Canada.
At some point, his life goal would have been to play in the NHL at some point.
But this speed sped it up a little bit, sped the process up a little bit here.
It would be everything.
Your whole life would be just G-Men.
Everything.
Yeah, he'd be so excited.
So he just wants to play in the NHL.
It's all he cares about from five years old.
He bounces around.
They're in Kamloops there.
They go to 100 Mile House is the name of a town.
What the fuck?
It's a town and district municipality located in the— I can't make this up, it's Canada,
located in the South Caribou region of British Columbia.
South Caribou.
You guys got a North Moose region?
What the fuck is this?
Fucking good God, man.
Jesus Christ.
That is-
The Western Wolf region.
What the shit is this?
What is 100 Mile House, number one?
That's a town, okay?
And then South Caribou.
I was like, I need to write this shit all down.
What in the fuck?
This all needs to write down.
Sarah Palin is rubbing her giner to this, too.
She's like, this sounds hot.
This sounds great.
Also spent time in Kitimat and Vernon.
These are all towns around there.
By the time he's 17, he is super into hockey.
He's been playing this whole time. 12 years into
his fantasy right now. He's goddamn good. He's a defenseman.
So he's not the greatest
skater or skill player, but he
plays an effort guy. He's 6'2".
Can you imagine a 6'2 guy on skates?
Well, it happens. There's a lot of them now, but he's just
not a skill guy. He's a
guy. He's a defenseman. He plays on effort.
And they're going to want him to fight
a little bit. He's going to be their goon. If you're're gonna be a defenseman and you're not gonna have great skills guess what
you better do you better suck somebody in the fucking face especially in the early 80s i was
like that's part of it you gotta go fight wait till you see here the fights this guy i can't
wait we've done boxers that haven't fought half as many fights as this guy i'm not even shitting
you i'm not even a third that's amazing champions haven't fought a half many fights as this guy. I'm not even shitting you. Not even a third. That's amazing.
Champions haven't fought a half or a third of the fights as this guy.
It's insane.
Oh, that's a teaser there.
It's wild, man.
I can't wait.
He ends up at 17.
He goes back and forth between a couple of teams.
First of all, he starts out with a junior league team.
It's the British Columbia Junior Hockey League.
The Vernon Rangers, who turned into the Vernon Vipers later on.
It's a Junior A hockey team.
It's like a rookie league, basically, below that for baseball.
And a 17, that's what he's playing in. That's what he's playing there.
They play their home games at the Cal Tire Place.
Of course they do.
Very exciting there.
That year he plays in 54 games, has four goals and 10 assists,
but 100 penalty minutes. My Christ. Very exciting there. That year he plays in 54 games, has four goals and 10 assists. Yeah.
But 100 penalty minutes.
My Christ.
Not fucking around.
What do you get for a fight?
Is it three?
There's a major, there's a minor, there's fives.
We've gone over this every hockey episode.
He's got 110 or 100 penalty minutes here in 54 games.
He was fighting.
They told him, if you want to be on the team, you're going to fight.
Because he went up from there. He's averaging almost two minutes a game that's the thing man
that's all all the time and it gets worse i mean he ends up with the kamloops blazers who's uh
they're a major junior ice hockey team basically they're up up the scale a little bit and also
with the ravel stoke rangers in 83 84's the junior league. So he's going back and forth.
They're bouncing him between the junior league and the Western Hockey League.
WHL is what the Kamloops Blazers are.
So he's bouncing back and forth between a lower level and a higher level this whole time here.
By the way, we're going to find out all these hockey teams.
It's not a good thing to own a minor league hockey team. Not one of them is still in business really talk about they're all defunct we'll talk about
when they the rebel stoke rangers went out of business in 85 this is 83 84 by the next year
they weren't even a fucking team anymore rebel stoke sounds tough though that sounds they renamed
them the rebel stoke rockets because the name was the problem not the fucking fact that nobody
wanted to watch them play it's's definitely the Rangers that's making
people not show up. Yeah, that's
the part. Gotta pick Rockets. That's when
they start coming. Let's do an in their
own words about his first year here in hockey.
In their own words, quote,
because of my first year in hockey, that's
how I became a tough guy. It was back and
forth between Kamloops and Revelstoke,
sometimes playing six games in a week because
I was playing in both places. When I got
called up, I wanted to do anything I could to stay.
That's where I started becoming confident
with the fighting, and I saw it as a means to
sticking. Once I was in that mode, I stuck
in it. I was so dominant at doing it,
and when you realize you're good at doing something, you start
enjoying it, too. He's not wrong. He liked punching
people in the face, and he didn't give a shit,
and he had a lot of balls, and he did it. And he's good
at it. And he's pretty damn good at it, I gotta say.
I've watched a lot of fights. He's
pretty goddamn good at it.
He'll fight guys bigger than him. He doesn't give a
shit. He's got a lot of balls. He's the lion killer
damn it. Give that man a pot pie.
So with Ravel
Stoke, he has 22 games,
5 goals, 21
assists.
I'm just picturing him like... It's so
gross, but I picture him like taking
a spoonful of the
pot pie and then sucking in
the shoestring.
Like spaghetti.
I like that a lot.
That's good stuff right there.
Picture that too.
It's disgusting. Maybe you don't get him a pot pie. That's good stuff right there. Picture that, too. It's disgusting.
Maybe you don't get him a pot pie.
What a vile fucking meal.
Go on.
So, Ravel Stoke, 22 games, five goals, 21 assists, but 107 penalty minutes in 22 games.
In 22 games?
In 22 games.
That's like five minutes a game.
Yeah, that's a fighting game.
Holy shit. He's like five minutes a game. Yeah, that's a fighting game. Holy shit.
He's fighting his ass off here.
So, yeah, Cam Loops here.
He goes up and plays there.
They play at the Sandman Center back then here.
With Cam Loops, he does a good job.
47 games, so he sticks up a little more up there.
Three goals, nine assists, 93 penalty minutes.
He's still fighting here.
He's trimming it down a little, though.
He is. He's taking it here. He's trimming it down a little, though. He is.
He's taking it off.
He wants to calm down.
He fights a guy named Ken Fenton, who is known as the badass dude of the league, basically.
He was the enforcer of the time.
Some minor league guy never made it anywhere.
Rudy says, quote, he was my first fight.
I kicked his ass pretty good.
I beat him real bad.
There you go.
That's his thoughts on that.
Kicked his ass real good. I beat him real bad. There you go. His thoughts on that. Kicked his ass real good. Fuck that guy.
You know there's a fuck that guy
in there. For sure. And if he
didn't say it, he was definitely thinking it.
You know, he nodded like, fucking that.
Fuck that guy. You know what I mean.
You know what happened. So, 84-85,
he's with Cam Loops
of the WHL again.
He says that he wouldn't have described himself as a tough guy before he was playing junior hockey.
But then he says when you first start fighting, you don't really know how to fight.
You're going off instinct.
You're just learning along as you go along.
That's kind of all fighting.
That's all fighting, yeah.
Unless you're training to actually fight professionally.
That's pretty much how it goes.
Listen, I'm a professional at getting my ass kicked.
I have done it so many
times. I can take
a punch like nobody's business.
It's a great thing to know, too.
You gotta take a punch.
As we'll find out from this particular
show, you don't want to take too many punches.
No?
No, you don't. Let's just say that.
Bad things happen later if you do. You think maybe you can't pronounce's just say that you think maybe you think bad things happen later if
you do you think maybe you can't pronounce uh fucking normal people's names when you take
that happens possibly yes that happens but have have uh silver-haired middle-aged white men come
out of the not yet to help you okay you haven't been doing it enough i haven't taken enough shots
to the head it'll happen don't worry it'll happen here uh he said that the fact that he like bouncing
back and forth between the two teams helped him be a good fighter.
Yeah.
He said that, quote, he'd go down to Revelstoke and I'd be fighting all the time against these younger guys.
Then I'd have confidence and I would go back to the Western League and I was fighting all these older guys who were supposedly tough.
So he's like, I've been practicing.
Yeah.
I've been kicking the young guys' asses for all week.
You had two days off.
I was fighting.
He's like a boxing champ where you fight the tin cans and then you go fight the contenders.
That's what it is, man.
That's exactly what it is.
I got a couple of warm-up fights.
He says one fight stands out from his time in Kamloops.
It's a guy named Stu.
He's known as a legendary enforcer up there named Stu Grissom.
He sounds like a Canadian enforcer.
Stu, S-T-U.
Stu Grissom at the Memorial Arena in the 84 WHL final.
Wow.
So the team was pretty good.
He said that the coach didn't want to put in Rudy to take on this Grissom, this Grimson, I'm sorry, Grimson guy.
Rudy said, quote, he's like, just leave him on the ice.
He's not that good.
I was like, that's what they say about me.
He was worried if I lost the fight, it would give their team momentum.
Rudy said he found himself on the ice and Grimson wanted to fight him.
So Rudy said, I looked over at the bench and LaForge is shaking his head, no, that's his coach.
Then I look at Stu and I say, fuck this, we're fighting.
I wasn't going to turn him down.
The fight went really well in my favor.
I ended up cutting him up for nine stitches and closing one of his eyes.
I beat him pretty good, and it helped us win that championship.
Holy shit.
I had the fans chanting my name.
They used to chant Rudy, Rudy.
That was pretty special.
That's Rudy, Rudy for some guy who's not a little fucking pudgy punk ass
who shouldn't be on the goddamn field for Notre Dame, you fucking bastards.
Fuck Rudy.
God damn it.
They'd chant Rudy, Rudy at him.
The man's nickname, or the man's name that he fought had Grimm in it.
That's terrifying.
Yes.
And he beat the shit out of him.
He beat the shit out of him.
And the funny thing is, I'll get into it later, but I've seen him fight.
Yeah?
Live at Madison Square Garden.
Really?
I've seen it.
Really?
So it's pretty interesting.
Madison Square Garden?
The Rangers.
Okay, so he played for the Rangers.
Yeah, he played for the Rangers Penguins game back in the day, but we'll get into it later.
Okay, so June 15th, 1985 is the NHL early entry draft.
Exciting.
Exciting times here.
It's held at the Metro Toronto Convention Center in Ontario, and it was attended by 7,000 fans.
Wow.
This is back when the NFL draft was barely even noticed.
Five years before that, I was just in a conference room
with guys writing shit down on slips of paper.
They just started bringing a few fans in,
and, you know, oh, let's try to make this like a...
Look at 7,000 for hockey.
It's a big deal in Canada, man.
So it's huge.
This was the first one of these to take place outside of Montreal,
the entry draft.
They did it in Toronto.
252 players get drafted in this draft.
Number one overall was Wendell Clark.
He played for the Maple Leafs.
I love some of these teams they came from.
He came from the Saskatoon Blades of the WHL.
That is hot shit, man.
There's so many of these.
The Hamilton Steelhawks.
That actually sounds tough.
Prince Albert Raiders.
That's not good. That doesn't sound great at all.
Prince Albert, that's a piercing on your dickhead, isn't it?
Apparently he'll rage your ass too.
He had teammates.
A guy named Ryan Stewart is drafted in the
first round from Kamloops, actually.
That's interesting. Gets drafted to Winnipeg.
That's the Jets that ended up coming here.
Yes, exactly. Ended up becoming the Coyotes. There there's a team called a guy named troy gamble was drafted in
the second round and he's from a team uh whl team called the medicine hat tigers the what the
medicine hat tigers what is that where is medicine i have no or is it the med is it a town called
medicine and these are the hat tigers what is this this? I have no idea. This is a ridiculous name.
But number 34 overall in the second round, a guy named Brad Lauger was drafted by the Islanders.
You know what minor league WHL team he played for?
The Regina Pats.
Oh, is that right?
We're back on the Regina Pats.
I love that hat.
As we said, I think it was Mike Danton, the Regina Pats, which sounds like a very odd venereal disease.
I've got the Regina Pats. It sounds like a very odd venereal disease. I've got the Regina Pats.
It's not great.
It's very gross.
I've got to pat it to make it feel better.
I've got to pat it.
But I've got a hat.
Who was it that mailed those to us?
I forget who mailed them to us.
But we've got their hats.
I wear it all the time, and I love it.
It's got a P on it, like a big fat one.
It looks so rad.
That's a cool hat, man.
So another guy got drafted from the Medicine Hat Tigers, which is
insane. And also a defenseman
for Kamloops.
A guy at his position, at his team
got drafted in the second round.
This is a 12-round
draft altogether.
Rudy is selected by the New York Rangers
in round 12. Holy shit,
he almost didn't make it. Almost didn't make it.
Mid-round 12.
Ouch.
Number 238 overall.
That is a lot, man.
Welcome to the Rangers with your new ulcer.
Yeah, no shit like that.
That would be brutal.
Oh, my God.
He said he was playing cards with teammates at the house of somebody named Doris Rubel.
Okay.
He was playing cards there, and he said, quote,
being drafted in the last round, it's a long day.
I finally got a call from my agent.
I didn't care if I was drafted in the last round.
I was just happy to be drafted.
Yeah.
I remember I kept saying, I'm a Ranger.
I'm a Ranger.
So he gets drafted by the Rangers.
Here he is.
Yeah, so he's excited, obviously.
This has been his dream since he was fucking five years old.
Now he's going to be in the NHL.
It's reality.
It's goddamn reality.
It's amazing.
Who wouldn't be excited about this?
He gets to training camp with the Rangers.
Didn't last long in training, but he's a rookie.
He's a new kid.
He's not expected to last.
He's not going to make the team.
He's a 12th rounder.
Yeah.
I mean, they have literally 12 other guys that they just drafted who have a much better
chance of making the team than he does at this point.
So he goes back to the Blazers to play the WHL,
back with Kamloops in 85-86,
plays in 32 games, has three goals, 13 assists.
Never a lot of goals because you're a defenseman back there,
but he'll pop an assist in every once in a while.
92 penalty minutes he gets.
Jesus fuck.
So he's cooking.
He's letting those Rangers know, hey, I will fight.
I will kick.
I'll be down here punching faces until you need me back.
I'll be down here punching dudes who are going fishing when this is over.
That's fine.
This is no problem.
Every guy I've punched.
Punching dudes that are going fishing when this is over.
Every man I've punched certified has killed a moose.
Every one of them.
Every one of them.
That's amazing.
Impressive shit.
So, 86-87 with Cam Loops again.
54 games, 13 goals, which that's not bad.
13 goals, 18 assists, 31 points in 54 games for a defenseman.
That's damn good.
I don't know that much about hockey, but I know basics enough to know that that's pretty fucking good.
Good points.
Also, 153 penalty minutes.
153.
He is kicking ass and scoring goals
that's what he's doing
I'm going to punch you but wait one second
slap shot
2-1 get over here motherfucker
come on Stu drop the gloves
asshole
I had an extra big pot pie before today
I'm ready to fucking kick ass
that shoelace was filled with iron
iron and protein and nutrients.
The iron in it was actually the ends.
It was actual iron.
It was made of iron.
Yeah, it was made of iron.
They were made of iron.
They didn't have plastic back then when they put them on.
These are Depression-era shoelaces.
You know how it works.
So, 87, 88, he plays with the Colorado Rangers of the IHL.
Okay.
They turned into the Denver Rangers after that.
They were in Denver, Colorado for the 88-89 season,
a member of the IHL, which is the International Hockey League.
It was originally this team was the Indianapolis Checkers,
but then they moved to Denver because it's better than Indianapolis.
What the hell is a checker?
I have no idea.
Indianapolis has weird team names back in the day, too. Is your mascot like a grocery store clerk? What is a checker? I have no idea. Indianapolis has weird team names back in the day, too.
Is your mascot like a grocery store clerk?
What is a checker?
I don't know what a checker is exactly.
I don't know what that is.
I can't wrap my head around it.
I don't know.
I picture Chubby Checker.
Yeah.
Is he their mascot?
I think he's their mascot.
Right up until he died, and then they're like, we got to move.
It's a big, happy, fat guy.
They're like, this isn't going to work out here.
They moved to
phoenix arizona and became the phoenix roadrunner i was just gonna ask you in 1989 after the 89
season so you probably grew up with this team here uh they're an ihl affiliate of the rangers
uh he ended up this is because this is up like a professional team this is their affiliate this
isn't like a junior right western hockey i swear to you right now i legitimately was gonna ask you
is the ihl what the Roadrunners were in?
Exactly.
That makes sense.
This is the exact team here.
So that's a professional roster to get on the Rangers, the Denver Rangers.
So he's fucking excited about that.
Had a first fight, obviously, against somebody he knew, Stu Grimson.
Uh-oh.
So he fights Stu right away.
Yeah.
Let's get it in their own words on this deal here.
From him.
From Rudy on this here.
In their own words.
Quote, Stu Grimson.
He was playing in Salt Lake and our minor league captain.
He came over and talked to me and he said, you ever fought Grimson before?
I said, oh, yeah, I beat him in junior.
He said, well, beat him again tonight and it'll make everything easier for us.
I ended up fighting him and ended up winning.
So I guess it did help.
I knew that's why I got drafted.
You're continuously getting to be a better fighter.
I like it.
So they draft.
Back in the day, this is not how hockey is anymore at all.
They don't draft guys to fight anymore.
No, there's no more goons.
There's no more.
Well, they're there.
But that's not all they can do.
Right.
These guys were literally, he's out there to protect the scorer and to fight a guy who,
yeah, to fight somebody.
Just to punch the biggest dude on the ice.
That's it.
It's like, you know, every good scorer has a goon.
Right.
You know, Marty McSorley had, you know, followed Gretzky around and all that kind of shit and
Boo-Ka-Boom when he went to the Rangers.
They have fucking goons.
It's just the way it works.
Right.
Then McSorley became Lemieux's goon in Pittsburgh.
That's just the strategy.
You need to know if you take a cheap shot at
mario lemieux this guy is gonna come fucking slash you in the head with his fucking stick
period he's gonna he's gonna do the time for it he doesn't care that's his job his job is literally
then fuck you up you know hockey is just as street gangster as anything oh it is it's unbelievable
and that's the that's what's beautiful about this back then i mean uh we're gonna find out why it's
not beautiful.
But these guys, they policed themselves.
There was no need for any shit.
Because if you took a cheap shot, you were going to pay for that shit.
Because every team had a guy whose job it was to enforce the rules of the game.
And that's what they were doing.
And it was amazing.
And they do the time for it.
No problem. That's amazing.
Skate right off happily.
That is gangster as fuck.
Arms in the air. People cheering for them. I problem. That's amazing. Skate right off happily. That is gangster as fuck. Arms in the air.
People cheering for them.
Yeah.
I love when you watch a game.
That's the equivalent of a guy taking a fucking rap and going to prison for it.
That's amazing.
Just going, yeah, I ain't going to tell on nobody.
No, no.
I take that shit.
Like Wee Bay on the wire, like we talked about earlier.
He's just sitting there.
They're like, through all these murders, he's like, I did that one.
I did that one too.
I'm going away for life.
Might as well take all my boys' murders with me.
Unbelievable.
That's what this is.
This is some gangster shit.
eBay off the ice.
eBay is a soldier, God damn it.
The NHL is the wire.
The NHL is the wire.
It's the white wire.
Yeah, the very, very white wire.
Exactly.
NHL, the white wire.
So he did.
He gets in a fight.
He beats Stu again here uh like we said he uh
he just keeps fighting in denver the rangers like what they see here uh he plays in 82 games that
year for them for denver uh seven goals 31 assists my god just great yeah 210 penalty minutes he's
cooking that motherfucker is in the box, man. That is so much.
Jesus Christ.
So that is a lot of time in the box.
That's unbelievable.
That's really doing the time, though.
That's 200 minutes.
He's in there so often.
He brings a book out to the bench with him on the ice.
He's like, just leave that in the box.
I'm going to need that later because I'll be in there.
He spent three hours in the penalty box in a season.
That's amazing.
That's a whole game.
That's three episodes of The Wire. I water i was gonna say he could have found out
yeah he could have found out with the fate of omar mid-fifth season he could have found that out
he could have known unbelievable i'm telling you what happened so i don't know he plays one game
with the rangers that year they actually i guess call him up to uh take a look at him for one game
so he got it an actual game he got in an actual game. He got in an actual game.
No goals, no assists.
Two penalty minutes, though.
He does fuck up.
Yeah.
He had no points.
Two penalty minutes.
In his words, he said, quote, no fights.
Ah, brutal.
He said, they really didn't have anyone to drop gloves with.
When I was there on the ice, there wasn't any takers.
He just called them all pussies.
He was looking for fights.
Yeah.
He said, when I was there on the ice, there wasn't any takers.
Nobody would fight. No, he's going around fucking with people, looking for fights. Yeah. He said when I was there on the ice, there wasn't any takers. Nobody would fight.
No, he's going around fucking with people looking for someone to fight.
That's what he was there for.
And he's like, eh, no one wanted to fight.
Starting problems.
They didn't have anyone to drop the gloves with, so I said fuck it here.
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88-89 with the Denver Rangers.
He only plays in two games.
He has no goals, no assists, six penalty minutes.
And the reason he only plays in two games is because he is called up to the big show.
Oh, boy.
He's going to New York, man.
Yeah, he goes with the big club.
Rudy in New York gets 52. He's in 52 games's going to New York, man. Yeah, he goes with the big club. Rudy in New York gets 52.
He's in 52 games that year.
A lot of fights.
Yeah.
A lot of fights.
Oh, I'm sure.
He had 25 fighting majors.
Jesus.
Penalties that year.
We'll get into some of his fights here.
He says, quote, I was busy fighting just about every game.
I was just happy to be there, and I was doing whatever I had to do to stay.
So I'm just happy.
Have you ever been anywhere and been like, I'm just happy to here i'm just i'm happy to be here anybody wants to fight me
i'm gonna crack them right in the nose i'm just looking for fights that's awesome no one who's
happy to be anywhere has ever been like looking for a fight but this guy is here he said that
this was like dream come true time because you have to understand the Rangers play in Madison Square Garden in fucking Manhattan in the middle of New York City.
This guy is from British Columbia from a small bunch of 100-mile house.
This is not normal for him.
So now he's like he's so young.
He was born in 66.
He was playing junior leagues at 16.
So he's 23 years old right now.
And he was fighting caribou off the lake so that he could skate.
He needed to clear them off.
So this is huge.
He's like a big shot.
Yeah.
In New York City, he's on the Rangers.
Look at all these lights.
Yeah.
He appeared on the old David Letterman show before he moved earlier when he was on after
Johnny Carson.
He appeared on that.
He appeared on the Howard Stern show.
What?
It was just a radio show back then.
It was 1989. 88, 89. He appeared on The Howard Stern Show. What? It was just a radio show back then. It was 1989.
Yeah.
88, 89.
Stern was a New York radio guy.
I mean, it was syndicated, but he wasn't Howard Stern.
I've heard every Howard Stern Show since probably 95.
Okay.
I think it was 89 he was on the show.
Go on.
So, yeah, he was on The Howard Stern Show.
Yeah.
He says, quote, I remember having dinner with Christopher Reeve, Donald Trump.
What? Yeah. He's Christopher Reeve's Superman. Yeah. If you don't know Donald Trump, I remember having dinner with Christopher Reeve, Donald Trump. What?
Yeah.
He's sick of Christopher Reeve, Superman.
You don't know Donald Trump.
I'm pretty sure you know who he is.
Unfortunately.
Sorry about that.
Either way.
Either way you feel, you know who he is.
He said he still considers James Lipton a close friend.
Wow.
First of all, some crazy Canadian guy with a silent S in his name
fucking punching everyone he encounters
is hanging out with James Lipton
tell me what makes you such a
wonderful fighter
what's your favorite part
of the face to punch
tell me
tell me you glorious man
I can't get through my day without knowing
I'm giving him a shit accent that he doesn't have, which is sad.
Where would you like to punch me?
Anywhere?
You can punch me anywhere.
It would be, sir, it would be an honor.
My pleasure.
My pleasure to take a shot.
So he said also, quote, our captain at the time was dating a supermodel.
And after the game, he would say, you want to go to a party?
So that's the thing.
Fuck yes, I do.
So he would go to parties with these people who were famous.
It was probably Messier at the time.
No, Messier wasn't there yet.
He was still on Edmonton.
I'm not sure.
86?
89.
I wouldn't have a clue.
So he was, either way, my timeline will get mixed up, but whoever the captain of the Rangers
was.
I made that, I said, in what year?
And then I was like, why am I asking? You know who the captain of the Rangers was wasn't i made that i said in what year and then i was like why am i asking
i don't know who the captain of the rangers was in any time period i know it was messier in the
90s that's all i know that's it but yeah i didn't know ever at all anything in my head i was trying
to think of a ranger and i think that's maybe the only one that i would have and i would have
taken me an hour to find that.
Mike Richter?
No?
Fuck.
All right.
So now that we've named all the 90s goalies, because I haven't seen any Ranger games since 1996 probably.
Perfect.
So that was when I moved away from New York.
Yeah, he's going out to parties with supermodels and fucking celebrities and Superman.
He's fucking hanging out with Superman.
This is crazy.
If you're hanging out with Superman and James Lipton, your life has gotten weird as shit. No, no. And by
the way, if you're hanging out with Superman
pre-accident,
Superman post-accident,
anybody can hang out with him.
He's not going anywhere. He can just walk up to him.
Everybody can hang out with him. He can actually
walk away from him at this point. Superman pre-accident,
he's got shit to do.
He's got shit to do and he's hanging out with
this clown here. Unbelievable.
In the season, he has 52 games, zero goals, two assists, 199 penalty minutes.
Holy shit. So that is a lot for 52 games, and he's not like he's in there all the time.
199?
199.
That's four minutes a game.
That is fucking fighting.
His fights, holy shit.
Let's see here.
You want to know how many fights he had that year?
23. Holy shit. 23 fights, holy shit. Let's see here. You want to know how many fights he had that year? 23.
Holy shit.
23 fights.
I have them.
I saw a video of seven of them that are on video.
We'll talk about those here, the ones I saw on video.
On October 9th, he fights a guy named Jim Thompson.
19th, I'm sorry.
He fights Thompson twice in the same game, as we see a lot happens.
I'm sorry.
He fights Thompson twice in the same game, as we see a lot happens.
Thompson suffers a pretty bad shoulder injury and misses a bunch of games in these fights.
Getting thrown into the ice?
Yeah, I think he landed on the ice.
October 21st, he fights Kevin Hatcher.
This fight was mainly hugging.
They just kind of got in and hugged each other.
I feel like they were both going for Jersey and neither one could get it.
They just hugged and the refs broke it up.
It was pretty weak.
Those were awful.
Two days later, he fights a guy named Gord Donnelly.
Yeah.
You don't fight a guy named Gord.
No.
G-O-R-D.
Oh, it's Gord?
I thought you said Gord.
No, Gord Donnelly is his name. Jesus.
That sounds like a big, tough guy.
He fights Donnelly.
Donnelly kicks his fucking ass.
He beats Rudy's ass pretty good.
Pulls his jersey over his head.
Oh, no.
He's beating him, hitting him, slams Rudy to the ice afterwards.
Rudy's just throwing.
He can't see shit.
No.
He's throwing haymakers that are hitting nothing.
He's just throwing.
He's just moving his arms around trying to hit anything he possibly can.
That's the move in hockey, though.
You pull that jersey over the head, and you've got it made in the shade.
You're going to win.
That's it.
That's the goal here.
October 26th. This is all in a week
of the fights I've just told you about.
The first two fights versus
Thompson were on the 19th, and the one I'm up to
now is the 26th of October.
So, I mean, this is the beginning of the year.
He's got to establish himself. This is what I do here.
I'm a rookie, or second year at this point.
He fights Jeff Chikrin,
I think is how you pronounce it.
I'm pretty sure.
Chikrin.
It's a hockey guy.
I heard the announcer and I think that's what.
I remember his name too in there.
Anyway, he fights Chikrin.
Rudy wins here.
Really?
Lands big punches on this guy.
I mean, he whoops him good.
Yeah.
Fucking lands a lot of big shots, throws him to the ground, and then skates away victoriously.
Arms out in the air.
Arms up in the air, yeah.
Fucking waving to the crowd like he's Rocky.
Accepting his roses.
He just beat Mr. T, and he's like, I did it, Adrian.
It's fucking hilarious.
Very hilarious.
December 10th, he fights Jay Miller, who's a Boston Bruin.
This fight I also got to watch.
It's a good fight.
A punch from Miller pops Rudy's helmet off.
Oh, no.
He punches him and his helmet pops off his head, which is pretty fucking hilarious.
Eventually, it just breaks up due to exhaustion.
Okay.
We see these fights.
The ref let them go until they kind of stop.
They just punched themselves out until eventually they were just standing there and the refs
just came in and they didn't fight it at all.
They're like, you're right, ref.
You're right.
It's done.
It's over.
I just want to go to the box. It's funny because after a while, they both look like, okay, break it at all. You're right, ref. You're right. It's done. It's over. I just want to go to the box.
It's funny because after a while they both look like, okay, break it up now.
We're done.
Both of us are done.
You're making us look like assholes.
They just have to stand there looking like they're going to throw another punch even
though neither of them can and won't.
It's like the beginning of every elementary school fight.
Yeah.
Just somebody wants the first punch thrown, so they stand there begging for it, and then
it never happens.
Exactly.
Yeah, because you know he won't, and he knows you won't.
So he fights a guy named Steve Dykstra.
This was on November 23rd before the Miller fight.
This is funny because it's an even fight.
Lots of punches thrown, and they're just both nailing each other.
Pretty even fight.
The announcer on this sounds shit-faced.
Really?
He's like, I don't like a fight breaking out he calls him
randy really he goes pochek and dykstra's and randy getting some good shots in i'm like hey
randy skate i'm like that's not randy you dumb fuck you have a that's written down in front of
you his name is rudy there's only there's like 25 guys on both teams that's amazing fucking
memorize their names dickheadhead. Jesus Christ.
So January 15th, this is the funniest fight I saw here.
He fights a guy named Randy Hillier of the Rangers.
Yeah.
This is just, he just assaults this poor guy.
Wait, of the Rangers?
I'm sorry, of the Pittsburgh Penguins.
He's fighting fucking teammates?
Yeah, he turned around, socked the goalie in the mouth.
Rudy just assaults this poor guy.
This guy wants no part of fighting.
Really?
Nothing.
He does not want to fight.
Yeah.
Rudy's coming toward him, and this guy literally is backing up going, I don't want shit.
He's not a fighter.
Putting his hands up and everything.
He's not the coon.
He doesn't want to fight.
And Rudy just throws his gloves off and starts fucking jacking him.
He jacks him twice, and boom, the second shot just fucking drops him to the ground.
Really? He just grabs him by the jersey and just pop and boom, the second shot just fucking drops him to the ground. He just grabs him
by the jersey and just pop, pop, and drops
this guy. So bad that
this guy didn't even get a fucking penalty for it.
He just got assaulted.
He was not voluntary
on his part whatsoever. He still had his gloves
on. He was like, oh, he didn't want
to fight. Oh, that's terrible. This guy
just said, what? Pop, I'm nailing you one.
I don't like you. So that was a funny-ass fight right there.
That wasn't it, though.
He fought so many more guys throughout the year.
A guy named Basil McRae.
He fights him twice in a game.
Greg Adams, Jay Wells, Chikrin again he fights.
There's a lot of repeat fights here.
Brian Curran, David Maley, Darren Kimble, Mike Hartman, Ken McRae again.
Craig Berube, who we'll talk about a lot.
And I'm going to catch myself not calling him Berube.
I'm going to call him Berby because I had a friend whose name is spelled the exact same way.
But we call him Berby.
And, yeah, we called him Berubles the Sad Fat Clown.
Jesus Christ. He's a very depressive guy.
Poor kid.
He wasn't fat at all.
How old was he?
He was like a year older than me, but he acted like he was 50.
He acted like he was an old man and he was always very stressed out about things.
How old were you when you were calling him?
Okay, so he's an adult.
Yeah, we were calling him.
It's Bruble's the sad fat clown.
He'd be like, yeah, whatever.
Fuck you.
He didn't care.
And he was a hockey player too.
If you're 18, you can deal with that. Oh, yeah. No, he wasn't five. That would be brutal. No, he was 18. and he was a hockey player too yeah if you're 18 you can deal with that oh yeah no he wasn't five that would be brutal he was 18
and he was a dick that's why we call him that he was just kind of a grumpy guy love him he was an
awesome dude but very grumpy one of those guys i like to hang out with him just to watch him get
mad at things that didn't matter because it was funny as fuck to me also fights rick tocket that
year and dale henry so some big So some big guys known for fighting.
Berube, Tockett, those guys are big fighters here.
He was reckless, crazy, played rugged, looking for fights.
He says, as a kid, I never pictured myself doing all this fighting.
I never thought I was going to be a tough guy.
I thought I'd make it as a regular defenseman.
I didn't mind taking a punch if I was giving one.
Fighting, it was kind of a rush.
You have 20,000 people cheering you on.
I really didn't like it, but in some ways you do like it.
Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine playing a sport and then all of a sudden it turns into a different sport.
That's what I love watching.
I love when you're watching these fights because you'll see on the YouTube clips, it'll never start with like, and I remember from back in the day, but the clips, you'll never start with like the actual fight.
They're skating around for two seconds and the fight breaks out.
So you're like, oh, around the back boards, he's coming around.
And we got a fight.
Up to the blue line.
Oh, Rudy and Randy, as he said before, Randy and Hillier are going at it.
And he'll just start.
And then they go in.
Oh, left hand landed by him.
Oh, his style.
He's got to keep that, you know, they're going to keep that elbow a little higher up there.
He's dropping his elbow.
The jersey comes over the head.
Ooh, nice shot landed on the left.
And they'll literally talk about, his fighting's really improved lately.
I saw him fight this guy last week, and you're like, what the fuck just happened?
How did this work?
How does this, Jesus Christ, it's a complete other sport.
How did you just turn into the guy that announces boxing?
What was his name again?
The one that Ali hated.
The one that Ali hated. The one that Ali hated.
Howard Cosell?
Cosell.
He loved Howard Cosell.
They were good friends.
That's what it was.
Yeah, he loved him.
They played around.
He just talked shit to him.
Yeah, they were bad buddies because he liked him.
So 89-90.
In personal life.
In personal life.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
But he called him a clown and a fool.
Yeah, all that shit.
Yeah.
89-90.
He's with the Flint Spirits of the IHL.
He sent down a little bit.
They're from Flint, Michigan, obviously.
They played in the IMA Sports Arena.
They were part of the IHL.
And they replaced a team that just left.
They play until 1990, and then they move away to Fort Wayne,
and then they end up going out of business eventually,
which, of course, they do.
Listen, the NHL struggles in America.
How are you going to have a fucking minor league team?
Yeah, it's tough.
Just a league at all.
It's tough.
It's tough.
Hockey itself outside of like eight cities isn't the best draw.
Outside of LA, New York, Detroit.
Detroit, Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, Chicago.
Your hockey cities.
Yeah, yeah.
Your hockey cities.
I'm sure there's one or two.
I think Colorado usually does pretty well.
They do okay.
Minnesota does well. Yeah, because they wanted to fucking, they. I'm sure there's one or two. I think Colorado usually does pretty well. They do okay. Minnesota does well.
Yeah, because they wanted to fucking, they took their team away, moved them to Dallas
for Christ's sake, and they were like, hey, it's freezing up here.
All we give a shit about is hockey.
What are you doing?
Does Nashville do well, the Predators?
I wonder if they do well.
I can't imagine.
I fucking hope not.
Tampa Bay?
All those North Carolina hurricanes.
Are you kidding me?
No, bullshit.
Tampa Bay won the championship, so they probably.
And Florida, too.
They really need something to latch
onto besides their terrible, sad
crocodile alligator-filled lives
that they have down there. And the fucking Bucs.
Everything, man.
It's terrible down in Florida. Awful, awful place,
Florida. Armpit of the world.
So, he, that
four... At minimum, America.
Minimum America. Four in
Fetstra. I've seen other places. With Flinius, 38 games, 8 goals, 13 assists, 109 penalty minutes. At minimum America. In Fetstra, I've seen other places.
With Flinney, he has 38 games, 8 goals, 13 assists, 109 penalty minutes.
There we go. Jesus.
Back in the box, baby.
I thought he was getting slack in his old age here.
I thought he was going to start playing by the rules.
Come on, regular defenseman.
With the Rangers that year, he plays 15 games, no goals, no assists, but 55 penalty minutes.
Jesus.
He said, I'll still fight, goddammit. He had
seven fights in the NHL that year.
He fought
Jim Kite of the
Pittsburgh Penguins. He fought Craig Berube
again. He said Kite. Kite.
Kite. Yeah, yeah. K-Y-T-E.
That's a tough one.
K-Y-T. Kite.
Craig Berube, who
Rudy's the instigator on that one.
He gets that.
Gerald Diduck.
Ken McCray again, who he's fought like three times already.
Mike Vukita.
Jeff Chikrin again.
He fights him twice.
So these are all the goons on these teams probably, right?
They just keep fighting each other.
It's just goon on goon.
It just rotates.
It's Jeff Chikrin again.
He fights him twice in January when Chikrin's on Philly.
So, yeah, he's still fighting.
He's getting into it here.
1990, 1991, he starts with the Binghamton Rangers,
another minor league affiliate.
Binghamton Rangers played in the AHL, the American Hockey League.
They folded in 1997, just so you know.
Keep an eye on all that kind of thing here.
He had 38 games, one goal
and three assists.
It was 38 games. I was like, that's not a lot.
But 162 penalty minutes.
That's all I thought. I was like, oh, one goal, three assists.
Maybe he wasn't playing that much. No, he was playing.
Just sucking and beating the shit out of people
at the same time.
Just make sure that you fight,
I guess. But he doesn't like this.
He doesn't like that he got sent down.
He thought he did a good job up at the Rangers.
This is when the Rangers, I believe, they started to put that team together that won in 94.
Gotcha.
So I don't know.
They might have been full, basically, on that point.
They got stars.
They got people that can do their job rather than just punch people.
I think so.
They had punch.
They just had other people to punch people.
Yeah, yeah.
We got people that can punch and score goals.
Yeah, so we're going to do that.
So, yeah, he asks people. Yeah, yeah. We got people that can punch and score goals. Yeah, so we're going to do that. So yeah, he asks for
a trade, Rudy. He'd like to be traded from
the organization and they
give in. They trade him to the Winnipeg Jets.
So back to Canada.
No, you're not going to hang out with any
celebrities and movie stars in Winnipeg.
I fucking guarantee you that. All your movie stars
and celebrities move to America.
Unless these movie stars or celebrities
have decided to give up their life
and live a life of anonymity
out in the gas fields or something like that.
In the oil business.
Gas fields.
I don't think it's happening.
So, January 22nd, 91,
he's traded by the Rangers to Winnipeg.
He plays for the Moncton Hawks of the AHL.
So the Jets don't even want him to start. They've got him down in minor leagues, too. Yeah, they start him off there. He plays for the Moncton Hawks of the AHL. So the Jets don't even want him to start.
They've got him down in minor leagues, too.
Yeah, they start him off there.
He plays 23 games, two goals, four assists, 67 penalty minutes there.
With Winnipeg, they bring him up for one game.
He's no goals, no assists, but five penalty minutes because he got in one fight.
One game, one fight.
May 18, 1991 against Tim Hunter of Calgary.
All right.
So he had to fight that.
1991, he has a son.
He's just got, he got married a couple years before this.
There's not a lot of information about his first wife, so we don't know too much.
But he has a son in 1991.
Good for you.
What does he call him?
Fucking Rudy Jr.
No!
Of course his name's Rudy Jr.
What show is this, Jimmy?
What show are we doing right now?
Why does he do it?
It's a scribe in sports because he wants to get arrested a lot.
This is the thing.
And this is the first, you know, it's like a Jenga fucking thing.
And he just took the first piece out.
Pulled that first plug.
He's going to move home, pull another piece out.
He's got so many pieces to pull out.
Jesus.
First one's a big chunk and it's Rudy Jr.
God damn it.
Why do you do?
But he does have a really cool name.
Rudolph Leopold is a kick-ass name.
Not bad.
I wouldn't be too upset with that.
Fucking Rudy Jr., man.
But that is a definite precursor to some problems.
And there's articles about his son when he was four or five.
He was skating in some...
He was in some minor kid hockey team, and Rudy would go to the games, and it's like,
Rudy and Rudy Jr. And I'm like, oh, Jesus Christesus christ this poor kid's not gonna have a fucking chance help him
don't name him after you you dummy so uh 9192 uh he's with moncton hawks again same team there 63
games four goals 18 assists 170 penalty minutes so he's still fighting gets called up to winnipeg
for four games goes up to play with the Jets, the big club there.
Zero goals, zero assists.
In four games?
In four games.
Zero goals, zero assists, and 7,000 penalty minutes.
No, he had 17 penalty minutes in four games.
He only had one fight in the four games.
I don't know if they didn't have him on the ice that much.
Oh, I'm sure he was tripping and high-sticking, doing all sorts of shit here.
October 29, 1991, he fights John Cordick, or Cordique, I don't know what it is,
of Quebec. With the French-Canadian
players in the mix, you never
know if it's a Cordique. So I have
no idea. Those names were a crapshoot, for sure.
That's what I'm saying. An absolute crapshoot.
Gets a divorce at this
point after his son is born.
He gets a divorce about a year later.
His professional life sucks. He's in the minors,
but at least his personal life is just as big of a fucking disaster.
Good for him.
July 8th, 92, he's a free agent now, so he's just got divorced.
He's a free agent.
He signs as a free agent.
He likes to have his career and his personal life in the same toilet.
In shambles, yeah.
You really want to have it in shambles.
Hey, I'm on a team.
Good.
Let's have a kid.
I'll name him after myself.
Everything's great.
Fuck it. Right in the toilet. Flush that bad boy down. Div'm on a team. Good. Let's have a kid. I'll name him after myself. Everything's great. Fuck it.
Right in the toilet.
Flush that bad boy down.
Divorce and my career sucks.
Let's do it.
So July 8th of 92 signs as a free agent with Toronto.
Okay.
The Maple Leafs.
92-93, he plays with the St. John's Maple Leafs of the AHL, who we've actually heard
of before and dealt with before.
Why did we have them?
I think Steve Durbano played for them.
I'm pretty sure.
I know he played for Marlboro, and I think he played for St. John's as well.
Don't quote me on that, but check it out.
Steve Durbano in episode 14 or 15, something like that.
Somebody fucking hated us.
There was some hockey thing that posted about him being in the Ring of Honor or some shit.
I forget what the article was.
He's a crazy fuck.
Somebody commented and fucking tagged us in the thread.
Oh, no, don't do that.
And we're like, that guy's a piece of shit.
Listen to this episode of Crime and Sports.
And the guy was like, he's come around.
He's a better guy now.
And he's like, well, I don't know.
He tried to hire somebody to kill somebody.
He tried to sell women also is the other thing.
Tim Hortons, for Christ's sake.
That's not kosher.
He's figured out his life. He's a good man. We know him personally. I'm good now. He's good now. Don'tortons, for Christ's sake. That's not kosher. He's figured out his life.
He's a good man.
We know him personally.
I'm good now.
He's good now.
Don't worry about it.
Give it time.
Exactly.
Don't worry about it, honey.
It'll pick back up.
Yeah.
So he's signed by them, by Toronto.
He's playing for the St. John's Maple Leafs.
For them that year, he has 78 games, 7 goals, 24 assists.
That's good.
So coming back, 189 penalty minutes.
Also doing that well.
He does not play in the NHL at
all in 92-93. Nobody even brings
him up for a sniff. He's a free
agent. Apparently Toronto signed him. Wasn't
that all that excited with him and with his minor
league play? They ship him off.
They release him. He's a free agent.
He's signed by Tampa Bay, who's a
newer expansion team recently. The Lightning. They need players. He's a free agent. He's signed by Tampa Bay, who's a newer expansion team recently.
The Lightning.
They need players, and they need an enforcer.
That's the thing.
If you already have an enforcer on your team, you don't need a second guy.
Sure.
But you need this.
If you don't have any, you need somebody.
And as we've seen, expansion teams in all sports will grab for any fucking low-hanging fruit they can get.
He'll sign here?
Great.
We'll take him.
We don't care.
Nobody wants to play with expansion teams.
So he's with Tampa for 93-94.
He has 71 games total, three goals, six assists, 118 penalty minutes.
Jesus Christ.
Not bad at all.
16 fights.
Wow.
16 fights.
Stacking them up.
Yeah.
Fights.
Fights.
Paul Laust.
Stephane.
His name is Stephane.
It's Stephanie without an I.
Really?
Is what it is, how it's spelled.
It's probably Stephanie.
I assume he's French.
Quintal, so I'm assuming he's French.
Greg Smith with a Y instead of an I.
Smite, who the fuck knows.
These fucking names.
You think shout-outs are bad.
Try to pronounce some goddamn hockey names.
Yeah, that's fucked.
I don't envy you for this part.
This part really sucks.
Caprios, I think.
K-Y-P-R-E-O-S.
What?
Caprios, I'm going to go with.
That's awful.
Mark Tenorti, Darren Kimball again, Jim Cummins, Bill Hoard, Brad May, Todd Ewan, Dave Brown,
Bob Probert, who we'll talk who will talk about we've talked about bob
bob probert in every fucking hockey episode because he's fought everybody multiple times
and then had brain damage and died of a heart attack at a young age he's a fucking mess bob
probert we'll talk about him actually we'll do an episode on him one of these days uh lots of guys
scott pearson randy mckay sounds like what he's doing here is is kind of like a theory that i
would have if i was a professional athlete
going to an expansion team,
you make a name for yourself right away. You can
be the hero of the town if you're like the best
at something on that team. That's the thing. And the
enforcer is the beloved guy.
There's the guy who scores all the goals. He's the most beloved
obviously. And then there's the fucking guy
who fights all the time. They love him.
And you try your ass off to be that guy.
He's always, the enforcers are always the second most beloved guy on the team for the
most part, unless they're dicks.
But for the most part, they love that.
It's a guy who's willing to go out and take a punch in the face for your team.
So generally, you like that guy.
And that's also a guy, you got a 0-0 game in the third period.
Somebody at least fucking fight.
That's the other thing.
It's always entertaining.
Right.
Whether a game is boring or not, if a fight breaks out, that's entertainment anyway.
At least we got something. I saw
a couple of these fights. They had the videos available.
The November 20th against Kimball
there. It's a great brawl
actually. It's a wild brawl.
They keep fighting and fighting and fighting. In the end
there's like a half a second pause and the refs
come in and then they try to keep fighting.
So they're throwing punches around the ref.
This fucking Kimball's like throwing huge
punches around the ref trying to hit Rudy.
It's a really entertaining fight.
I enjoyed it.
February 2nd versus Probert.
Great brawl versus Probert, man.
He's getting better as a fighter, Rudy, I will say.
From here to watching these and watching the ones from 89-90, he's really getting better as a fighter.
Probert's fucking big.
And Probert looks a lot bigger than him on the ice, too.
He's a red wing, right?
Probert? Yeah. Hebert's fucking big. And Probert looks a lot bigger than him on the ice, too. He's a Red Wing, right? Probert?
Yeah. And he fought Durbano and he fought our other guy, too,
right? He fought Cote.
Cote, yeah. Yeah, he fought him. I think Danton
and him got in. No, Danton didn't get in. Yes, he
might have gotten in. I don't remember if it was
Danton. You know what? Danton might have been the guy that
was on Facebook.
St. Louis he was on.
It may have been Mike Danton. Oh, it was probably.
It was Mike Denton.
I think it was.
He was the one that tried to hire us.
Mike Denton's the guy who we actually felt bad for, though.
A little bit, yeah.
Yeah, he had.
There was some circumstances where we were like, you know what?
You're a douche, but I kind of get it, too, at the same time.
Yeah, it was Denton because Frost was his manager that also was kind of like flirty with him.
It was Spencer that fought, too, with him a lot.
Really?
Probert.
Brian Spencer.
Remember?
Yeah.
That was the one time.
Because we had Probert being like a fucking rapist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Hey, everybody.
Bob Probert's a rapist.
Okay.
That's not true at all.
I don't know.
He might have been.
He's dead anyway. It doesn't fucking matter. But still. So anyway, Probert wins a rapist. Okay. That's not true at all. I don't know. He might have been. He's dead anyway.
It doesn't fucking matter.
But still.
So anyway, Probert wins this fight in the end.
But fucking big heart on Rudy, man.
He goes at him.
That's a tough son of a bitch.
And he does not take any guff from him whatsoever.
Gets right in there.
Off season comes around.
He's feeling fucking good about himself, man.
He's now signed to a team he just played all year up in the NHL. No
minor league bullshit. He's on the
team. I mean, it's in Tampa, so whatever, but
it's better than, I don't know, maybe he likes that. Better than
the cold of British Columbia.
I don't know.
If you're raised in one environment and you
go to the other, you love it.
You might love it. Because it's change. It's true.
That's true. Yeah, he might enjoy it. In the
offseason, he meets a woman named Heather. In Tampa? In Tampa. Oh, true. That's true. Yeah, he might enjoy it. In the off season, he meets a woman named Heather.
In Tampa?
In Tampa.
Oh, no.
At a bar.
Of course her name's Heather.
Who's going to be his second wife.
Yes.
He meets a woman named Heather in Tampa at a bar.
That tells you right there.
That's problems.
Right there.
Guarantees.
And I'm only going to say this because it was back then when it was rare.
Now it's all over.
She had tattoos on her boobs.
Of course she did.
Put it that way.
Which now all the time.
Listen.
In 1995, that was considered aberrant behavior.
You know what I mean?
That was considered what truck stop do you work at?
When did you quit stripping?
That's what we would say at that point.
How far into recovery are you?
Exactly.
That's the question.
Are you cleaned up now?
What are we doing?
What step are you on?
Never mind how far into. Just what step are you on? Do you have... Never mind how far into.
Just what step are you on?
You'll be back to one soon.
Did they give you custody of your kid yet?
No, no, no.
Are you allowed to see them at all, even on the weekends?
Is the supervisor...
Great.
That's great.
Oh, at your ex-mother-in-law's house.
Perfect.
That's great.
That's classy.
You have to do the handoff in public.
That's classy.
Very classy.
We have an in-their-own-words about meeting his wife. She had a broken heel, too. Oh, you know it. You know it. That's classy. Very classy. We have an in their own words about meeting his wife.
She had a broken heel, too.
Oh, you know it.
You know it.
Yeah, he helped her out.
He fashioned something.
Puking her hair and everything.
You know it.
He was like, that's the one for me.
That's my girl.
Well, let's find out what he thought about it.
Let's find out with an in their own words.
Oh, this poor girl.
We are ruining her.
I'm telling you.
In their own words.
Quote, we met at a bar in the off season.
She didn't know who I was, which was good.
I would visit these middle school kids
and it was like a reading challenge.
If they accomplished a reading challenge, then they would
get to have pizza with Pochek.
It was nice to be down there.
It was great wearing shorts and flip-flops
to practice. You get on a flight
and you've got to remember to bring your overcoat.
So that's what he's feeling at Tampa.
He meets some broad named Heather with a tattoo on her boob that he's very excited about.
He's doing things like the kids love him.
They're getting pizza with Pochek.
That's incredible.
They do this.
It's reading with Rudy is what it is.
They do reading with Rudy.
That's awesome.
And the kids who read the most get to have pizza with Pochek where he comes in
and they all have a pizza lunch and he hangs out with the kids.
the most get to have pizza with Pochek where he comes in and they all have a pizza lunch and he hangs
out with the kids. And by all, everything
everybody said and by his, what he said
and everything, he seems to be really good with kids.
Kids like him. He likes kids. He's good
around them. Not so much later on as we'll
talk about. There's a little criminal
problem with that. But at the
moment, super nice to kids, I guess.
In Phoenix, it would have been broads with Barkley
because that dude is a womanizing
son of a bitch. Oh, God, everywhere, man.
All over the place.
So, 94-95, he has a pretty bad thumb injury and doesn't play a good portion of the year.
Hurts his thumb, I assume, in a fucking fight, probably, or something like that.
What's the other thing, too?
Does this guy practice hockey?
Yeah, how do you—
Or does he—it's practice time.
Everybody else gets their skates and goes on the ice, and he fucking is taping his hands up.
He's like, all right, time to hit the heavy bag.
Like, maybe he just does that on skates.
They got a guy with the focus mitts going back while he skates at him, punching while everyone else is shooting pucks and shit.
That's awesome.
Passing.
He's like, I don't need any of that shit.
I'd watch that practice.
Put the mitts up, coach.
That'd be a practice that would be fun to watch.
That would be a great practice.
I always wondered that, though.
They get good at fighting all the time.
They must practice. a great practice. I always wondered that, though. They get good at fighting all the time. They must practice.
It takes practice.
So he plays in 25 games that year for Tampa Bay with the injury there.
One goal, one assist, 92 penalty minutes, though.
Still cooking on the penalty minutes.
He doesn't give a shit.
Eight fights that year.
Fights Francois Leroux.
I'm sure that was a tough fight.
Sounds like a Frenchman there.
He fights Rob Ray.
He fights Brent Severin, Paul Laus, Dale Hunter.
What ended up happening here with the Hunter one, Hunter high-sticked on him and got a major for that, for high-sticking.
And then Rudy came over and fucking just basically had an involuntary fight with him for that.
Hunter didn't receive a—he didn't get a fighting major for it because he was just basically
attacking.
He got high sticking.
He got high sticking though.
He got that.
Kelly Chase, he fights.
Sean Antoski, Paul Laus again, got to close out the season with fighting the same guy.
Like I said, the broken thumb really took a lot of his time, but he still managed to
get in the penalty box for 92 minutes.
Good for you, Rudy.
95-96.
He's with Tampa Bay again.
57 games, one goal, three assists, 88 penalty minutes, 10 fights.
Heather's making a teddy bear out of him.
Oh, Jesus.
She's loving it.
She's trimming down the penalty minutes.
He's down to 10 fights a year, this guy.
I mean, Christ almighty.
Next thing you know, he's just going to be fucking me.
Hugging guys.
He's just going to be hugging people. He's going to have
flowers in his helmet. He's just going to be like,
hey guys, calm down. Everybody be cool.
Let's all love you guys. He's turning into the voice of reason.
It's going to be great.
He fights Chris Tamer. He fights
Marty McSorley on November
95, and I couldn't find the video
for this, and I'd fucking love to watch a fight
between Rudy and Marty McSorley. I love
Marty McSorley. He loved Marty McSorley.
He was a tough dude.
We had the problem with Brashear and the whole thing.
We get that.
That turned out bad for him.
Fuck was he great to watch, man.
God damn it, would he fight anybody, any time.
He was so much fun to watch.
Mike Peluso, Brad May again, Sean Antoski again, Paul Laus again.
Okay.
Fighting Adam Graves, Jay Wells again. Again. Alec Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Stoyanov.
Sounds good to me.
He's a Russian guy.
And then Tony Twist, who we've also talked about a lot because he fights fucking constantly
there.
That's a great name.
That's a great name, Tony Twist.
It really is here.
Was Peluso P-E-L?
Was that Peluso?
Yes, Peluso.
Really?
I wonder if he's related to my friend.
There's a lot of Pelusos, trust me.
Is there really?
Yeah, it's a very popular Italian name, Peluso. I've never heard of it. Really? I'd never heard until I met Jess. I know a lot of Peluso. Really? I wonder if he's related to my friend. There's a lot of Pelusos, trust me. Is there really? Yeah, it's a very popular Italian name, Peluso.
I've never heard of it.
Really?
I'd never heard it until I met Jess.
I know a lot of Pelusos.
Where are you from?
Colorado and Arizona?
Trust me, I've known a few Pelusos in my day.
You're like the fourth Italian I've ever met.
I was going to say.
We all eat spaghetti all the time.
What you doing?
You meatball-having motherfuckers.
That's right, goddammit.
So, April 27th, goddammit. So April 27, 1996, this game here, the Flyers GM, they play Philadelphia.
The Flyers GM, Bob Clark, who's an ex-player, I think he's an ex-player if I'm not mistaken,
accuses the coach, Tampa's coach, of putting Rudy in only to go after Eric concussions while shaving Lindros.
You got to get him a real smooth blade.
If it's not smooth, he'll get a concussion.
He will.
He'll get a concussion.
Here's the thing.
We already knew that, coach.
How come you didn't know that?
How do you not know that?
He was pissed because Lindros didn't want to fight.
He just wanted to skate around, try to score, and most of all, not get a concussion for
five fucking minutes. To know
where he is at all times for ten minutes would be
great for Lindros. Clark said,
quote, I thought the league had passed the stage
where players were used to deliberately
hurt other players. Not yet. I guess we haven't
gotten past that yet. Apparently
not. Not in 1996, anyway.
In the playoffs, they make the playoffs
that year. Not bad. Three
playoff games. No goals, no assists, no points.
They lost in the first round.
12 penalty minutes, though.
May 25, 1996.
This is after the season now or during the end of the season.
Rudy will sign autographs.
He does all these autograph signings now.
Everybody loves him because now the team was good, so they got popular in Tampa.
Now he's the guy who fights all the time on a popular team so they love him so much he's doing the reading with rudy
and pizza with pochek the wait is over so far you're not losing the only thing you're losing
is my patience quickly i see that The queen of the courtroom is back.
I didn't do anything.
You wouldn't know the truth if it came up
and slapped you in the face.
I see he's not intimidated by anything.
I can fix that.
New cases.
She wanted to fight me.
Leave her alone.
OK, so, um...
This is not a so.
This is a period.
Classic Judy.
Did you sleep with her?
Yes, Your Honor.
You married his cousin.
His brother.
That's not him.
Yes, ma'am.
I would make a beeline for the door.
The Emmy Award-winning series returns.
How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head.
It's an all-new season.
It's streaming. You can say anything.
He signs autographs on May 26th, 1996, and I thought this was funny,
and gives a presentation on safety equipment.
He did what?
What the fuck is he doing giving a safety presentation?
This is safety equipment.
Put it on.
If someone punches you in the face, it won't matter what equipment you're wearing
because your face is ticked off.
You ever catch an uppercut?
The fuck in there?
Safety equipment comes right off.
Helmet pops right off.
Let me show you folks a video of a guy I fought a couple years ago.
Watch my helmet pop off now.
Unbelievable.
Good concussion there, and he gets a lot of concussions.
Does he?
We're going to talk about.
Oh, yeah.
We'll get into that.
Don't you worry.
So he's signing autographs.
He's on a playoff team.
He's popular.
He's reading with Rudy.
He's got a new, he found Heather.
He's got a tattoo-boobed, nice Hooters waitress, ex-Hooters waitress that he's going to take
up and bring with him.
He doesn't allow her to wear two heels, ever.
No.
She's got one that's broken at all times.
Signing autographs, giving presentations on safety equipment.
He's got Rudy Jr.
God damn it, let's say it now.
This is Grace.
Is it?
This is Grace.
Grace.
Let's just say it right now.
Oh, that's too bad.
Shit starts to go awry from here.
Oh, boy.
We'll talk about why here.
You wouldn't think so, but under the surface,
this is where it starts to fall apart.
96-97, he plays for Tampa
Bay again. 60 games,
no goals, 6 assists,
120 penalty minutes. Holy shit.
He's got that going well.
Lots of fights again. Rob Ray, Mark LeBell,
Rob DeMeo,
Ken Belanger, I guess. Bill Hoard, Craig Berube. fights again rob ray mark labelle robbed uh de mayo uh ken belanger i guess uh bill hward uh
craig barubi okay here's the one with barubi here this is a this is a tough one it's a it's a crazy
fight i mean if you want to watch a fight it's a good fight but uh what ends up happening is the
the linemen the refs they're they're busy with two other guys uh getting into it here so these guys
are that's the other thing, too. It's
like prison because when they see
the refs doing something else,
that's when they fight. Of course.
They know. They have an agreement. We're fighting
next time the refs aren't close
to us. We're fucking fighting. They're distracted. I'm going to
fuck you up. That's why you'll see guys drop the gloves
at the same time. It's an agreement.
They've already made a choice. They know when it's open. They look at
each other like little kids, like, now's our chance.
And then they fucking fight.
Like, it's something they're doing together.
Right.
They should team up and be friends.
They're working this out.
But instead, we get to watch them fight.
Right.
So they are absolutely both laying right hands onto each other.
Okay.
It's fucking, they're blasting each other in the head.
I mean, just right hands to the head.
Handful of jersey and right hand coming.
Pow, pow, pow, just popping each other.
It's really, really crazy.
They're starting to spin a little bit on the ice.
Rudy loses his helmet, which is a tough thing always.
They tie up.
Berube throws a bunch more punches.
Three out of four of them land.
One really lands solid, and then Berube wrestles Rudy down on the ground toward the boards.
Now, when the refs come over to break him up after that, you see Rudy throw a haymaker back at Probert again,
like he's trying to fight him still because he was trying to get up.
As Berube skates off, he's bloody as shit.
You meant Berube.
Berube skates off.
No, Pochek threw the punch from the ground.
He got thrown to the ground.
You said Probert.
I'm sorry.
Probert.
That hairy rapist.
Damn it.
Pochek.
Pochek Probert.
He's raping.
So anyway, he throws a punch up there.
As Berube skates off, you can see he's bloody.
He's got blood around his mouth.
Rudy's bloody, too.
It's a pretty wild fight, I will say.
Now, looked great. Everybody was happy. But the problem was he wasn't okay after wild fight, I will say. Now, it looked great.
Everybody was happy.
But the problem was he wasn't okay after this fight, Rudy.
And after a lot of fights, we'll find out exactly when these fights were and what happened.
But I wanted to make the fights fun, and then we'll talk about the consequences of them here.
In case you're letting your kids play hockey, here's some interesting information.
They each get hit six to eight times in the head
at full blast in a matter of seconds.
They're just bare fists
blasting each other in the fucking head.
He says, quote, Rudy says
about this, quote, I think I remember the white
light happening twice in that fight.
Twice. What? Twice.
He said, but you
watched the video of that fight now and you can't
tell that I missed a beat because he was used to it. He went
out twice. Twice he went
out. Unbelievable. And one fight got
right back in and it started taking more blows to the head.
Wow. How dangerous
is that? That white light when you get hit and you
see that. Not good. No.
Your brain is telling you some shit right there.
It's saying oh that was a bad one. That was a fucking bad
one. Twice in one fight. We need ice.
Twice in a matter of 15 seconds.
Unbelievable.
That is terrible.
Now, that fight was at February 14th, 1997.
Very romantic Valentine's Day for them.
February the 15th, the next day, he's doing pizza with Rudy.
Oh, my God.
He's doing pizza with Pochek at that point.
He's drooling all over the pizza.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, he's reading with kids, eating pizza, trying to act like everything's fine.
You know his head hurts.
You know his bell got rung.
I mean, that's not good at all for him.
Luckily, it's an easy book.
I guess so, man.
That's all you can do.
He fights more that year, too.
He's fighting February 22nd, which is a week later.
He's in another fight against Reed Simpson.
The 23rd, he fights Dodie Wood.
The March 8th, he fights another guy.
It's fucking ridiculous.
April 5th, he fights dodie wood the march 8th he fights another guy it's fucking ridiculous april 5th he
fights again wow i mean dude that's not enough time to heal after getting two good concussions
in a row like that that's insane no gloves and you're not trained in like the defense and in
this and he didn't have a helmet on there is no defense it's just throw offense yeah these guys
aren't blocking punches and you throw blows until you hurt that guy before he hurts you.
And the majority of guys are right-handed.
And when you lock up with your left and you're throwing rights,
he's throwing over your left arm and you're throwing over his left arm.
It's just allowing punches.
Who submits or knocks out first.
And you have to hold each other up.
Otherwise, you're going to fall down if you're throwing those kind of punches.
This is the craziest fight.
It's crazy.
So July 31, 1970, signs as a free agent with the st louis blues yeah uh and that's this is where it really
fucking fell apart okay uh bad he says quote i was there i was playing the best hockey of my career
then i got hit funny and my back started feeling a little bit funny uh he said he kept playing oh
god 10 days later though he gets in a fight with uh dar Darren McCarty, and he said something felt very wrong.
He said, quote, when I was sitting in the penalty box, I was like, this doesn't feel very good.
When the penalty is over, I went straight to the dressing room.
He kept playing, though.
Kept playing with the bad back.
His back was completely screwed.
He said the doctors didn't want to hesitate, didn't want to operate on him at that point.
They said take a few days, see how it feels.
They said come back Monday Monday and we'll see.
He said, it was Sunday and I was cooking and I just bent down to get a pan or a dish.
And as soon as I stood up, my disc just blew apart.
Oh, no.
That's rough.
That is super nasty.
You don't want spine injuries.
No.
And he's having surgery immediately after that.
The next day, it's Monday morning, he's having surgery.
And from here on, his life is fucked up.
Well, yeah, because what do you do for pain for those, Jimmy?
Yeah.
Oh, exactly.
You get on painkillers.
It's so good.
And then you can't get off them.
No.
Because you can't function without them.
This is part of the problem with him.
Not all the problem, but part of the problem.
97-98 with St. Louis, 50 games, only 64 penalty minutes out here.
He's slacking off.
Only eight fights.
What are you doing, Rudy?
Come on. One goal, seven assists. He can't. He doesny come on uh one goal seven assists trying to save his brain for christ's
sake uh fights a lot of the usual suspects he fights uh sandy mccarthy at one point and
yeah god this guy drills him with a fucking left right in the back of the head oh no that's brutal
man uh hits him in the back of the head he like falls over like you know pochek grabs him to you
know not fall over.
They both tumble to the ground.
It's like, Jesus Christ, man.
This is a lot.
This is just a lot of fighting.
It's too much, man.
So he was on the operating table.
He said, up until that point, I'd played every game in St. Louis.
I was getting quite a bit of ice time.
I ended up getting back that year, playing the last few regular season games, but it wasn't the same.
Two games in the playoffs. He only has six penalty minutes no goals no assists yeah uh 88
89 with st louis only plays in 16 games oh no no goals no assist 33 penalty minutes so not that
great five fights yeah you know who he fights november 14th 1998 patrick cote oh really episode
63 i think who was a maniac and had a crazy fucking story.
Listen to that one.
That's a wild one.
What was the heist that he pulled off?
Didn't he pull off a heist?
Yeah, he had a big heist and then he got shot in prison.
That's right.
It was crazy.
He had a bunch of crazy shit.
Twice.
He's nuts.
Fucking nuts.
He fights Jeff Odgers.
Then he fights Jeff Odgers like a month later.
He fights two different guys in the same game.
Jesus.
Usually they fight the same guy.
He fights Odgers and Scott Parker of Colorado on December 5th, 1998, which is insane.
Fights Donald Brashear January 28th, 1999.
So it's not going terrific.
That's why I said it was grace because it's starting to go downhill.
He was still at the pinnacle, but it's not going to last for long.
And it's really – he's on a, he's on a mad tear for now.
He's got a greased up toboggan going down right now, just flying like Clark Griswold
on Christmas vacation.
99-2000 with St. Louis, plays in 12 games only, 0.0 assists, 24 penalty minutes.
Jesus.
So not doing a lot.
Fights two guys.
Very nice.
This is sweet here.
He has a reunion.
He fights Stu Grimson on March 11, 2000.
These guys have been fighting for 15 fucking years since they were kids.
Is this their swan song?
I feel like they would, like, fake it.
They'd be like, hey, dude, what's up, man?
Dude, I haven't seen you in so fucking—
They'd be, like, holding each other, like, throwing little rapid punches.
Like, dude, I know, man.
How's the wife?
She good?
That's good, man.
I saw pictures of your kids. How's Heather?, dude, I know, man. How's the wife? She good? That's good, man. I saw pictures of your kids.
How's Heather?
Your kids look super cute.
How's Heather?
She still got that tattoo on her boob?
Because, man, no one could shake her ass to warrant cherry pie like her.
Oh, I mean, I'm sorry.
That's your wife.
My bad.
You know, she was a Tampa stripper, obviously.
That's not very nice of me.
That's not nice of me.
So, yeah, he fights Ryan Vandenbosch, I guess, on April 7, 2000.
So not a lot of fights.
April 28, 1999, he's assigned to Worcester.
So he's shit-canned from the St. Louis.
They send him to the minors, the Worcester Ice Cats of the AHL.
Not terrific here.
Worcester, Massachusetts.
Yeah, the Worcester Centrum.
They folded in 2005, by the way, just to let you know.
Of course they did.
He plays in five games for them, only has four penalty minutes.
And what they end up doing, no goals, no assists.
He's not going to have any at this point.
What they end up doing is they loan him to an IHL team.
They just loan him out.
They're like, you can have him if you want him.
Take this bad back.
Take this fucking guy off our hands, please.
I don't know.
He's got headaches all the time.
He's got problems.
You're going to have to help him spell his name.
That's a problem, so work on that.
You better get it right on the back of his jersey because he won't correct you.
November 11th, 1999 is when this happens.
They loan him to the Houston Arrows of the IHL from St. Louis.
Houston Arrows, they were the Iowa Wild after that,
which is terrible.
They played in Houston at the Toyota Center,
and they folded in 2013.
You bet.
You know they would.
He plays 32 games there.
You think that shit's just like a money laundering front
or something?
It's got to be, right?
It's probably just people that can take losses.
Yeah, they need to take a loss for tax purposes.
Yeah, or it's like i don't know like a
vanity project for somebody like brett the hitman hart had a minor league hockey team you know what
i mean back in the day like it was kind of one of those bon jovi's fucking arena team it's like
that right yeah i feel like that yeah he needs to write something off and so that he can write
off the loss so that he can he needs something not pay so much money on the income that he's
making exactly so he can have the income that he's making.
Exactly.
So he can have some of that wanted dead or alive royalties.
You don't have to pay so much out of it.
That's good.
Good for him.
Buying extra fucking Mercedes this year.
No shit.
So 32.
Move out of New Jersey.
That's an idea.
That's something I would do if I had a bunch of money. And then fucking spin around and punch him in the chest hold on a second wait a second
we were rope-a-doping for a minute you're like it's enough jimmy he's had enough and
then he turned around and smacked him he needs more
i'll hit him right off move out you move out of New Jersey, you fucking jerk. That'll do it, goddammit.
Gorgeous.
You know it's there, man.
So, Houston Arrows.
Oh my god, that was amazing.
Houston Arrows stats now.
Two goals, six assists in 32 games for 51 penalty minutes in the air with Houston Arrows.
That is the end of his NHL career.
Oh, no.
He'll never play in the NHL again.
Well, he'll cup of coffee, but not in the regular season,
so we'll talk about that in a second.
Okay.
364 NHL games, six goals, 25 assists, 917 penalty minutes.
Wow.
Not bad.
And over his 14-year career, he estimates he had at least 15 concussions.
That's a shitload of concussions.
That's a lot. He said,
quote, my mentality as a player was I was going to be fine.
Hockey has an especially tough guy,
especially the fighter guys.
It's a next
level tough guy shit where they're just like,
fuck that. Yeah, so what? I lose five
teeth? I'll be out on the ice in five
minutes like it's a famous thing on Sports
Center they'd show a guy all injured
and they'd show him playing again a minute later
they're like but he's a hockey player he got stitched up he got back
out there that's how they are like
so it's crazy like they used to
call each other like there was this article I was
reading about one player got in a fight with another
player and the guy got his head crunched into the boards
real good but didn't know where the fuck he was and he said this was the
other player who crunched his head into the board said he was watching him and the trainer came over
and was trying to help him and he said as i went by i said fucking pussy like he said that's what
i thought and then later on he has cte and he's always a fucking not the guy with the guy who did
the smashing and he's like what the i was calling people pussy, and I was doing it to myself and others,
and that was just the mentality of it.
He's like, that's how we were raised.
That's how we were.
It's conditioned.
You get out there.
You be tough.
That's what the fans like.
That's what everybody is.
Now, 2000, 2001, he wants to keep playing.
Rudy does, but he says he's seen by other teams as damaged goods.
Yeah.
Which, yeah.
Because you are.
Your skill level has declined.
You're getting older, and your brain is getting mushy.
So he said, quote, so then nobody wants you because you didn't play much the last couple years.
I knew I could still play, but I guess nobody wanted to take a chance on me.
One team takes a chance on him.
Who are they?
San Jose Sharks.
Okay.
They take a chance on him.
They sign him in the preseason.
He has one fight for them in the preseason.
On September 15, 2000, he fights Louis DeBrusque of Arizona.
What year is this?
This is 2000, September 2000.
He is one of the last cuts of training camp, does not make the Sharks.
Sticks around, but he does not make the Sharks.
Goes back down and plays with the Houston Arrows for the rest of the season.
67 games, three goals, 13 assists, 66 penalty minutes.
This is the first time in his career I think he's had less penalty minutes
than games played.
So there's that.
So he's starting to not be the same kind of guy.
This is the total from one of the dropyourgloves.com,
one of those hockey fight sites.
In his career, they counted, fight-wise, 128 fights in the NHL.
Holy shit.
128 bare-fisted fights.
I mean, not all of them you take blows.
Some of them he didn't take blows.
Some of them were just hugging or whatever.
But 128 fights.
In the minors, 151 fights.
Do you combine those?
This man fought 279 times.
My Christ.
Name an MMA guy we've done that's fought 279 times.
None.
Boxer fought?
None.
Nobody.
279 fucking times.
That's bananas.
How many times has he been hit in the fucking head?
If he took five punches to the head per time.
If he took one, that's 279 blows to the head.
Hard ones.
Hard ones with bare fisted. Hard ones. Fuck, man. Imagine getting hit in the head 279 blows to the head. Hard ones. Hard ones with bare fisted.
Hard ones.
Fuck, man.
Imagine getting hit in the head 279 times.
No thanks.
How many times have you been hit in the head in your life?
I mean.
20?
30?
More maybe.
Not 279.
Not 279.
No.
No.
My punches.
That's a lot.
Jesus Christ, man.
That's horrible.
So he's got problems too.
And he says so.
He describes his post hockey life as quote disappointment. Probably. You know what? Probably 20. Jesus Christ, man. That's horrible. So he's got problems, too. And he says so.
He describes his post-hockey life as, quote, disappointment.
You know what?
Probably 20.
That seems like a normal number.
You get punched.
You fall down.
You hit something.
You crash.
Like a good fight with, I don't know, a younger dude.
When you're younger and you get in a good fight, you probably catch five.
You don't care.
You catch five solid ones and you quit.
Yeah, you don't notice them. I've probably had maybe, I don't know, five to ten of those. Yeah. So, You don't care. You catch five solid ones and you quit. Yeah, you don't notice them. And I've probably had maybe, I don't know, five to ten of those.
Yeah.
So, I don't know, 20 to 40, somewhere in there.
Yeah, 279.
But not professional athlete, 6.62.
Yeah, he's probably been hit a thousand times in the head.
Oh, Jesus.
That's insanity.
And boxers do it all the time.
From big fucking guys.
Yeah, not bare-fisted.
He's hit his head on ice
he's done all that sort of thing he describes it as disappointment his post-hockey life that's what
he says one word disappointment uh he's living in tampa it's his wife's hometown there heather
obviously heather from tampa uh and they love him there so he's like i guess i'll stick here he
starts working as a mortgage broker oh boy imagine boy. Imagine this guy. I want a guy with brain damage doing my mortgage.
I want a guy with 280 fights doing my mortgage.
So you're the guy on tab.
Well, I would think it was like he thinks that his name is helping him there.
But I'm not buying a mortgage from a guy I've seen obviously as a pudding brain.
I'm not buying fucking mortgages from him.
I'm going to find out he screwed something up and they're going to repossess my house in six months.
No.
How many teeth is he missing at this point, too?
Oh, my God, Arnie.
They get him just stuck in there.
But while he's working as a mortgage broker, he's doing some kind of yard work or something,
and he tweaks his back and starts hitting the pain pills hard.
Oh, you bet.
They prescribe him pain pills and flared up his old injury, And he is all in on the pain pills from here on out.
All in on the pain pills.
And I can understand he probably has a lot of pain from hockey, from everything else.
And back pain.
The nerve damage alone.
Oh, it's probably wild, man.
He probably can't even feel his fucking legs.
That's probably not.
Well, let's get it in their own words here about this whole time here.
In their own words.
Quote, I didn't know what I was doing with my life.
I was trying to figure out how to be happy. Just the way hockey went, the disappointment of getting injured. I i didn't know what i was doing with my life i was trying to figure out how to be happy just the way hockey went the disappointment of getting injured i just
didn't know what to do i wanted to be happy i had a wife and a daughter she was two or three i
noticed the painkillers helped everything not just my back so i got addicted to pain pills oh no even
while i was writing mortgages i took percocet to get rid of the headaches shit headaches from
shit loads of concussions for Percocet for headaches.
Headaches.
That's a nasty headache.
That's what he's taking to work.
Yeah.
That's the level he has got to go to for that, to make that work for him.
In 2002, February 24th, he participates in the Lightning Alumni Experience, which is
the Tampa Bay Lightning thing.
This is where, whoa, six teams of, quote, moderately skilled players participate in a round-robin tournament.
Hopefully he didn't beat the shit out of some poor guy who works in a bank.
Let's just say that.
It was like, hey, I'm going to go skating this weekend.
And Rudy's fucking pummeling him against the boards.
It's like, Jesus Christ.
He's poor like Hillier there.
I don't want to fight.
You're fighting, motherfucker.
Rudy's on their home mortgage side, and the personal banker's getting the fuck beat up.
He's getting the shit.
He's like, dude, fuck, man.
Fuck mortgage, man.
See you at work on Monday, Rudy.
Thanks, pal.
2002, after that, he visited with Tampa.
That's a Tampa Bay thing.
He attempts a comeback with the Tampa Bay Lightning in 2002.
Does not get very far.
I don't even think he played in any preseason games.
Really?
Yeah.
He says
downward spiral from there.
He then, Jesus, as if the shit
isn't going bad enough for him,
as if it's not horrible enough, he
loses most of his life savings
in the stock market at this point.
That fucking stock market crash?
This was 2002, that one.
It was when the economy was
really kind of tanking after 9-11. And a lot of people lost a shitload. And this guy, he was trying. This was 2002, that one. So it was when the economy was really kind of tanking. It was after 9-11.
After 9-11.
And a lot of people lost a shitload.
And this guy, he was trying.
He was working in a bank, and he was trying to invest.
These are the things that people tell you to do.
Don't just put your money in the bank.
It's all the safe stuff.
Be smart.
Get stocks.
And especially back then, after the 90s, fucking stocks went crazy.
You were an idiot if you didn't own a shitload of stocks.
So he said, OK, you did it.
But a guy like him, he's like, who the fuck's Al-Qaeda?
I haven't got a clue what that is.
I don't know what's going on here. I don't remember my own name.
Never mind them. He says, quote,
I just got stressed out from
financially, pissed off
at the world because I thought I did all the right
things putting my money in mutual funds.
So he was like, what the fuck, man?
He said, quote, but I was overloaded
on the NASDAQ and lost probably 70% of my portfolio.
Ouch.
It was just a kick in the teeth.
These things add up.
No fucking shit.
Nice that he mentions his teeth.
Yeah, kick in my gums.
Now, how badly does this start to slide from here?
How much of a fuck up?
Well, let's find out.
Over the next two and a half years
in Florida, he will be arrested
seven times. Seven fucking
times in two and a half years.
My Christ. Complete, complete
unraveling. Gets arrested for
DUIs. Gets arrested for
domestic abuse. Gets
arrested for giving
false information to
obtain a prescription.
Jesus.
He's that.
He's that far in. He's that far where he's doing that.
He's shopping doctors and when he can't get them.
Child abuse.
No.
A child abuse charge.
Now, these, I don't know what the hell kind of silver haired middle aged white man he
has down there in Tampa or how easy it is to control the media down there, but wow do
they fucking hide these arrests.
Really?
I had to dig so hard just to get what they were never mind the details of these seven arrests
they're fucking impossible they're impossible i know uh to january 2003 he was arrested for
charges of child abuse and false imprisonment fuck uh so that was probably you're not going
anywhere and the kid's not either i assume or, or something like that. Like I said, DUI, domestic abuse.
The painkiller thing was April of 2003.
I see that domestic abuse happening.
I can see it in my head.
She's saying, don't take those.
Stop taking the pills. You're an asshole.
Or she's just being normal, and his head's fucked up, and he doesn't know.
She might have said, what's for dinner?
Do you want pork chops?
And he might have punched her in the face.
He's like, I don't have any Percocet.
What do you want for dinner?
Or she said, do you want any pork chops? And he said, fuck her in the face. He's like, I don't have any Percocet. What do you want for dinner? Or she said, do you want any pork chops?
And he said, fuck you, Craig Berube, and started punching her.
She's like, what the hell are you talking about?
I'd rather have a pot pie.
Fuck you, Berube's the fat sack clown.
Unbelievable.
That sounds like a fat sack clown.
It does, Berube.
It really does.
So anyway.
A tear on his face.
That's a frowny face clown. So he's With a tear on his face. A little tear. That's a frowny face clown.
So he's arrested a shitload on this.
The bogus information to get prescription painkillers is really.
That's the sad one.
That's tough.
That's pretty embarrassing.
Most of the arrests after that, besides those, are all driving related.
Really?
He never has a license.
From this point on, his license is suspended because he missed a child support payment to his first wife.
So they suspended his license under Florida law.
He has no fucking license forever, and he never stops driving.
And now it starts to get interesting.
So now he's in that cycle where he's broke.
He needs money.
But the money that he makes has to pay off old debts.
And there's no way he's paying those because he has to survive.
So now the child support for Junior is not getting paid.
Exactly.
The fines aren't getting paid for the license.
He's not getting his driver's license back.
Every time he's arrested, it suspends that license further.
Oh, it's revoked.
It's beyond suspended.
It's revoked.
It's over.
They called him a habitual offender.
Holy shit.
He's now at the point where they don't even want him in a car.
It's unbelievable.
Like, just fucking walk places, dude.
You're not even going to bus pass.
You're riding the bus, fuckface. Here in a car. It's just fucking walk places, dude. You're not even going to get a bus pass.
You're riding the bus, fuckface.
Here's a bicycle.
Knock yourself out, dickhead.
And now back to the show.
So March 2nd, 2005, he's arrested for driving on a revoked license.
Now, March 13th, 2005, this shit comes to a head.
Really?
Whoa.
He takes his 1998 Lexus SUV.
He's got a seven-year-old Lexus.
Yeah.
It's a nice car.
He bought it when he was still in the NHL.
It's probably 1998.
It's the last piece of his fucking career.
That's it.
That's the one right there.
He takes, well, it was until this day.
It was on March 13th. That's it. That's the one right there. He takes, well it was until this day. It was on March 13th.
He takes this. Now it's him
98 Lexus SUV
with his five year old daughter in the car.
Oh no. Five year old daughter in the car, mind
you, okay?
He hits a sewer drain. Yep.
Flattens two of the tires on the right side of the car.
Doesn't stop. What?
He keeps going. He drives across
multiple lawns. Oh my God. Driving across lawns. Hits a keeps going. He drives across multiple lawns.
Oh my God.
Driving across lawns,
hits a palm tree.
Oh my Christ.
Doesn't stop.
What?
Keeps going.
Drives across another lawn,
takes out a mailbox.
Uh-huh.
To the next lawn,
takes out another mailbox.
Oh boy.
From there,
he went back down
his own street
over more lawns,
hit another palm tree.
Jesus.
Kept going from there and took out another palm tree. Jesus.
Kept going from there and took out another fucking mailbox.
What the fuck is he doing?
He went around his neighborhood on lawns, bashing into palm trees and mailboxes.
What the fuck are you doing? The problem with going through lawns is that it makes a track all the way the fuck to where you're going.
And it's in his neighborhood.
It's not like he went somewhere else.
They're like, what the fuck is Rudy doing?
We all know him.
He's the guy, the hockey player.
He's right there.
Yeah.
Heather with the boob tip and the boob tat.
Yeah, we know her.
What's going on?
And his daughter's in the fucking car.
That's the other.
His daughter's in the car with him.
Five years old.
He's bashing into palm trees.
He's lucky he didn't fucking hurt his kid, man.
Jesus.
Luckily, she is unharmed, which is good because this is ridiculous.
Now it gets crazy. Yeah. Think that was crazy? It gets worse? Gets worse. Oh, boy. Thatharmed, which is good because this is ridiculous. Now it gets crazy.
Think that was crazy?
It gets worse?
Gets worse.
Oh, boy.
That was nothing, okay?
He and his daughter get out of the vehicle.
A neighbor runs over and grabs the daughter and takes him to the mother who was coming outside too.
Gives it to Heather.
She's still there?
Heather's still there.
They're still together.
With her tit too?
Her and her tit too.
We're both there.
What do you think it is?
I'm picturing a rose. i thought it was a butterfly i always go for like a big
gaudy one with color on it yeah just right on the top though not on the nipple no on top so you can
see it when she's wearing she's gotta wear a tank top she's wearing her hooters outfit she wants you
to see it she wants the rose out or the butterfly that's right man and the butterfly sloppy as fuck
yeah it's a butterfly. It is.
Yeah.
Sloppy, you're right.
So the neighbor takes the daughter to Heather.
Police come, because police are called during all this.
They come.
They go to Rudy's house to get him, have a little chat with him, see what the fuck's up.
He wasn't home, and they couldn't find him.
Okay.
So they're hanging around.
Where the hell did he go?
Well, he turned up 90 minutes later.
He was back an hour and a half later.
A neighbor called police and, uh, said that, uh, this is odd, but you know that hockey
guy that you guys were looking at?
He's hiding in my garage right now.
Oh my God.
He's hiding in his neighbor's garage.
This is how low we've fallen here.
Uh, fucking A man.
He went from fighting in Madison Square Garden to hiding in a fucking garage.
Hiding behind some guy's, a box with some guy's fake Christmas tree in it in his garage.
It's very sad.
Officers go to arrest him.
I assume they start approaching him like a scared deer.
Like, come here, buddy.
They got some feed in their hand.
They're like, come on, it's okay.
He bolted.
He takes off.
He's like, you're not taking me alive.
They didn't even grab some evidence percocet and shake it in their palm.
Nothing.
Nothing.
They should have.
That would have been nice.
That would have got him out.
Come on, buddy.
Come on, little buddy.
What he does, there's a-
Throwing the back seat of the car.
That's awesome.
Like a Zagnut in the great outdoors.
There is no-
Picture this Benny Hill scene, okay?
Like a Zagnut in the great outdoors.
Here you go.
Here you go. Here you go.
It's Zach nut, dink, dink, and he throws it on the hood.
You got to give the tap, tap on the hood before you throw it.
It unwraps it and everything.
Yeah.
He does it all himself.
So the bears, they know what they're doing.
So now the crazy shit starts.
Yeah.
It's not crazy yet.
Now it's great.
There's a pond in the neighborhood.
Picture this Benny Hill fucking, picture Yakety Sax playing.
There's a pond in the neighborhood. Picture this Benny Hill fucking. Picture Yakety Sax playing. There's a pond.
That's such a great song.
It's meant for this and for this to be played in fast motion.
There's a pond in the neighborhood.
The police chase him twice around the pond.
Oh, my God.
They chase him in a fucking circle around the pond.
I picture him looking back, dropping something, picking it up.
Or like slowing down and putting his hands up.
The cops start to walk and then he takes off running again.
They all stop to take deep breaths, put their hands on their hips, look back, shake their head.
Then they all start running again.
All in fast motion.
So good.
So, yeah, they finally catch up with him, but rather than fuck with him, they just shoot
him with a taser.
Awesome.
So now they chase him.
Okay, hit him with the charge.
He goes down.
This is our second tasering in a very short amount of time.
So they arrest him at 11 a.m.
This is in the morning this is happening.
This is crazy.
They arrest him.
They charge him with being a habitual traffic offender, driving with a suspended license, resisting arrest without violence.
Child endangerment.
Leaving the scene of an accident with property damage and driving with a child not wearing a seatbelt.
I love it.
That's what he gets here.
He's taken to University Community Hospital in Carrollwood for treatment of head injuries related to the car accident.
Hit his fucking head more.
Of course he did.
He was later booked in the jail.
He was held on $2,750 bail.
The authorities said he did not appear intoxicated at all.
Really?
So, yeah, not fucked up.
Just fucked up.
Just fucked up in the head.
Absolutely.
Just really a lot of, that's a bad time here.
His explanation for this.
This I can't wait for.
We have an explanation.
And he says, at the time, he said, I was in a mind state that I hated the world.
He said, I was like, fuck you.
Everyone can fuck off.
I was popping pills and I didn't care.
He says that a dog bolted across the street and he swerved off the road and hit a palm tree.
He said, quote, I wasn't wearing my seatbelt, so I smoked my head.
He said he was dazed and bleeding.
His daughter was in the back seat.
And he said he turned the car around and head
for home. But he said he passed out and the
vehicle left the road driving over
multiple lawns and taking out mailboxes
before finally stopping at the base
of a palm tree after the other mailboxes
on it. He said he was out cold while this was all going on.
Right. Okay.
That's why you ran, hid in the garage and bashed
around a pond. He said
off to find his wife after the neighbor took the daughter out of the vehicle.
He said, quote, I wanted to talk to her, and then some kid saw me and said, there he is.
And I ended up running.
Hey, everybody, it's Enrico Palazzo.
So he said, the cops were afraid of me or something, and they ended up tasering me.
You think they're afraid of you?
You're a fucking crazy person.
He says that before the crash even then and especially
now he's planning on moving his family to cam loops and getting the fuck out of tampa really
uh he's he's a criminal athlete jimmy what is he gonna do he's gonna move home come on he had a
junior he's moving home yeah he said i was already planning on it because my parents are there he
said as and it was a part of going to court. My attorney told the court they're moving to Canada where he's got family.
He sat in a jail for three weeks.
He sold his house while he was in jail.
They sold the Tampa house.
He said, so I got out of jail and had maybe three weeks to pack up the house and get going.
Wow.
So, yeah, that's eight times or eight arrests in Florida.
Good record there.
April 20th, he's in court to answer charges of leaving the scene of an accident and all the things that we said.
He told, this is funny, he tells Judge Denise Pomponio that he and his wife have a contract to sell their Tampa house and they're moving to British Columbia where he has family.
She says, quote, I think it would probably be in the best interest of everyone if you left the country.
I'm not saying that in an ugly way or a bad way.
I just want you to fuck out of the country because you're a menace.
That's amazing.
She said, I'm not saying that in an ugly way or a bad way.
Yeah.
The judge said that he'd be better served if he were near family and had a support group.
She said that he can't even legally drive anywhere in the country.
So he's listed as a habitual offender.
His record has all sorts of things here.
He said he lost his license because of problems with immigration, which is strange.
Under a plea agreement now, he is sentenced to 60 days in jail with a credit for the $37 he spent in jail.
So as the hearing comes to a close, Pomponio asked if Rudy would be getting a ride to Canada or if he would fly.
And he said, quote, I'm not going to drive.
She said, that's the answer I wanted to hear.
And that was the end of the court.
You're not driving, are you, motherfucker?
That's a long way.
That's a long way.
You just walked out.
Here's the other thing.
I've never heard a judge recommend that a criminal leaves the country.
She said, I think it'd be better for everyone involved if you left the country.
Just get the fuck out.
That's all we want of you.
Just leave. Go. I know you're legally okay to stay here, but we you left the country. Just get the fuck out. That's all we want of you. Just leave.
Go.
I know you're legally okay to stay here, but we really want you out.
You're a fuck up.
Criminals are constantly trying to leave the country, and judges are like, no, you will
stay here in the jail.
And this one's like, no, no, no, please.
Please.
Hit the border.
Hit the bricks.
Hit the dusty trail, buddy.
Let's go.
Tell your story walking home, boy.
That's great.
I love that so much.
So, yeah, that's a 60-day sentence that he's going to serve another three weeks. Right. He moves back home. God damn it. I love that so much. So yeah, that's a 60 day sentence that he's going to serve another three
weeks. He moves back home.
God damn it. Breaking a rule right there. Moving
back home. Still has no idea what he
wants to do with his life. He said he tried
selling cars. Or his own name.
Yeah, or his own name. He tried selling
cars. Then he
got a job working for a drilling company
in Alberta. Oh my God. Exactly
like we said. We said that on purpose.
Wow.
He said after being temporarily laid off from that, and we'll find out why, by the way,
he said he turned his attention to mining.
We have an in their own words here.
That's not ideal work for a guy with a bad back.
And a head injury.
Right.
Let's put him in charge of heavy equipment.
And can't drive.
Yeah, it's super weird.
He could probably drive in Canada, maybe.
Probably, yeah.
He said in their own words, quote, you'd have these guys come in and they just came from Alberta working in the oil industry and they just had all this money.
That's what made things better.
Getting in the mining industry.
I like it.
It's a good group of guys.
There's some camaraderie, kind of like hockey.
When I'm there, I have roommates. It's like a group of guys. There's some camaraderie, kind of like hockey. When I'm there, I have roommates.
It's like a little bit of being on the road.
This is like a fucking camp for him going to mining.
He does, however, lose his job at the mining company for falling asleep on the clock too many times.
Jesus.
Because he probably can't help it.
Too many times.
Too many times.
Wow.
So he went from NHL, lower than that, been arrested, driving around with all this fucking shit, chased by.
He's been tased after cops chased him around a pond twice because he had his daughter in the goddamn fucking car.
So then he's writing mortgages, mining.
He's fucking mining.
What a life.
He's drilling for oil.
He's selling cars.
What does he do?
He goes home.
He's fucking sitting there.
Canada's beautiful.
I guess that'll help. I have no home. He's fucking sitting there. Canada's beautiful. I guess
that'll help. I have no idea. He's sitting outside. He doesn't know what to do with himself.
And he hears some dogs barking. He's like, what's that in the distance? He looks over. It's Bobby
Colorado, animal trainer from Fredericksburg, Texas. And he says, how is it you come to arrive
here? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Nah, seriously, I used to watch you when you was on the Rangers,
because I was, I mean, no, I'm from Texas.
I mean, I'm from Texas.
I don't know, I've never been in New York.
When you were with the Arrows.
I heard I stopped at LaGuardia once on a flight.
It was a stopover.
I was there for like an hour.
You know, I had a Nathan's hot dog at the food court.
But outside of that, I've never been to New York.
I don't know nothing about that.
I don't know any people there either or anything like that.
Do you?
You don't know none of them asked about me, right?
All right, never mind, never mind.
Anyway, what the fuck is wrong with you?
You got all this support.
You got a nice wife.
She got a nice tattoo on her boob.
You know what I mean?
I want a nice wife with a tattoo on her boob, but I had to leave mine.
I mean, never mind.
I'm from Texas.
So anyway, I don't understand what you're doing.
You're fucking up.
People are signing you. Now you're driving around in fucking circles't understand what you're doing. You're fucking up. People are signing you.
Now you're driving around in fucking circles, bashing into palm trees.
You're a fucking jerk-off.
You know what you could have done while you was doing that?
Not only could you have hurt your little girl, you could have ran over a fucking dog.
And then you'd have to deal with me.
You understand that?
Anybody who fucks with dogs, you have to deal with.
I can't take it.
You're driving me.
I got to get out of here.
I got to.
Poof.
And a puff of dog shit and marinara sauce.
He's gone.
Jesus. Dogs are gone. Jesus.
Dogs are barking.
Fucking Christ.
Now he's really confused, Rudy.
That was a good one, by the way.
Thank you.
That was very impressive.
As you can see from my notes, I write it all down.
There is nothing there.
It just says Bobby Colorado.
That's it.
Fucking got to do it that way.
There is nothing there.
Not at all, baby.
So anyway, by the way, if you're coming to a live show, I promise you this.
All characters will be at the live show.
All of them?
They're all making an appearance.
Jesus fucking Christ.
It's going to be crazy, and I'm going to have a stroke halfway through it.
How are we doing that?
Don't you even worry.
Don't you even worry.
All right.
So he's there February of 2014.
He's in Canada now.
He's up there, he's very confused
about the dog guy coming to see him
you think he was confused before?
now he is hit with
a one year driving probation
in Canada, he has problems in Canada
too, this guy is bad with driving
he's like fucking Ben Cousins
this guy, he could have used an Uber
he could have definitely used an Uber, it's 2014
he could have got a fucking Uber.
February, he continued to
drive. He'd go to and from
Princeton, where he worked, and he'd also
just run errands, go to the grocery store, just
drove like it was nothing, which was
fine. Didn't get in any trouble, really, besides
being on the probation, until
July 5th, 2014,
when there's an accident.
Rudy backs his Volkswagen SUV into another vehicle in the Tranquil Road parking lot.
He backs it into the vehicle.
Doesn't sound like a big deal.
Yeah.
But for him, it is.
Now, what he did is the female driver called the police at the time to get accident stuff.
As you do.
The prosecutor will say later, quote, when she was attempting to call the police, Mr.
Pochek freaked out, grabbed her and shook her.
No.
And tried to take pieces of paper from her hand.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't grab and shake fucking women in parking lots.
Idiot.
He then fled the scene, returned again, and again tried to take the shit from her, grabbed her, tried to wrestle documents out of her hand.
She's screaming, no, no, what are you doing?
It's fucking nuts.
Last time he had an accident, though, he got tased.
So now he's losing his mind.
They're going to tase me.
Look at this woman, though.
She said, let's just call the cops.
He freaks out, shakes her.
She's like, what the fuck?
He runs away.
And she's like, that was crazy.
And then he comes back.
Here he comes back. You just ran away. are you coming back oh my god give me that
paper i want that paper so weird so uh the prosecutor describes rudy's behavior as quote
bizarre they're just like this isn't even like a to b criminal behavior like he wants to do this
so he does that this is just weird he's got head injuries yeah anyway after he comes back and
starts you know tries to take the papers again, he takes off again.
He runs away again.
Police end up tracking him down.
He's arrested for assault and driving while prohibited and right by his home.
Yeah.
He's walking to his house.
Same kind of charges in Florida.
Same thing.
Assault, driving while prohibited, released on a promise to appear in court, basically his own recognizance.
Later that day.
Oh, my God, no.
Same fucking day he's pulled over again.
Sweet Pete.
Again en route to his job at a mine in Princeton.
Jesus.
And he's fucking arrested again
and charged with prohibited driving.
What a fucking idiot.
Unbelievable.
Rudy's explanation of what happened with the lady,
he's got an explanation.
He said, quote,
I kind of had a flashback feeling to Tampa.
I effed up backing up and I hit a car and I just felt like the world was crashing
down on me. He knew he didn't have, he was no license.
He knew there was going to be a problem.
He was trying to bribe the lady. He was trying to go, we don't need to call the cops. We
don't need to get insurance involved. Look, let me just give you my, I'll give you a thousand
bucks. Let me just write you a check. I'll give that check. That's $500 it's going to cost to fix that.
Let's just take care of this now.
Our rates are going to go up.
I sell insurance.
Yeah, he didn't want to do any of that
but she called 911
and that was that. He said, quote, I was trying
to grab my papers back because she had
his vehicle paperwork on insurance saying
it was this car or whatever. He said,
quote, I acted stupidly
I wasn't trying to hurt anyone
I didn't even realize
what I was doing
with the emotions
yeah that's just
that's not a good excuse at all
that's a fucking bad day
I didn't know what I was doing
I didn't know what I was doing
that's a dangerous man
yeah right now
he's out there
and there's a reason for that too
August 8th 2014
he's pulled over again
oh my god
near Courtney Lake
Courtney Lake
and charged again with prohibited driving.
Like a habitual traffic offender.
October 2014, he stopped and arrested again with driving while prohibited for a fourth time since he's been in Canada.
May 2015, he pleads guilty for the assault on the woman backing out of the parking lot incident.
Over the next few months, you'd think he would calm down, chill the fuck out.
I'm good now.
I had a problem.
I saw the white light.
It came and it went, and I'm good now.
No, arrested twice more for driving while prohibited.
What the shit?
Over the next few months after pleading guilty for the last thing.
For the first one.
Yeah, between May 2015 and September 2015, he's arrested twice more.
Jesus Christ.
Fucking twice more.
Wow.
September 14th, 2015 is the sentencing for the July arrest.
And what they do is they cram all of his driving offenses he's had and that all into one.
Smash it in there.
He's sentenced to 45 days in jail and a $1,500 fine for everything, which isn't bad.
He handed him a six-month conditional sentence for assault
and also banned him from driving or consuming alcohol for the same period.
So, yeah, also to the 45-day jail term for driving offenses
will be served intermittently.
What?
When he's got time.
What?
I got a day.
I'm going to come serve a day.
Canada, you're so nice.
They're so nice.
They're like, well, he's got to work, eh?
I mean, he's got to get there.
I mean, his kid's got a hockey game on the 3rd. Unbelievable. I mean, he's got to go to eh? I mean, he's got to get there. I mean, his kid's got a hockey game on the third.
Unbelievable.
I mean, he's got to go to that, you know?
You've got to get him in there.
Heather's going to be alone, you know.
He's going to be alone, you know.
She's going to be so lonely.
We can't have him be alone.
I kind of always got to liken to that butterfly tattoo on her boob.
I dig tit tattoos.
Tattoos are great.
So, October 21st, 2015 is when a lot of the cte case pops with the nhl okay he is part of
the lawsuit suing the nhl just like the nfl players are suing the nfl for concussion issues yes you
don't know about this uh you get hit in the head a whole shitload it breaks your brain into pudding
it's a problem it's a fucking problem and the leagues tried to cover it up and gary betman is
a fucking scumbag
too. The internal documents they uncovered
about him just trying to push it
under the rug and going, who gives a fuck? What a
silver-haired middle-aged cocksucker he is.
Fuck that guy. Dude, it was
disgusting. I was disgusted by that. He made
Roger Goodell look like fucking Mother Teresa. It's not
just that it makes your brain
it slows down your motor functions
and causes brain damage and problems.
Everything, man.
That affects not just them.
That affects their family.
That affects your life and our lives when they're out in fucking public.
This guy's bashing into cars and shit.
That's what I mean.
And he can't control himself.
And when he gets freaked out and his emotions get a little ahead of him, he can't control them anymore.
So what does he do?
He grabs a fucking lady and tries to grab papers out of her hand.
When it's a bad person in the first place, Aaron Hernandez,
then people fucking die.
Then people die. This guy
wasn't a terrible person to begin with. He's just a
fucking idiot, and he got hooked on
pills, and I honestly feel bad for this guy.
I mean, he did
everything he was supposed to do.
He's in Canada. You're supposed to play hockey.
He played hockey. He played in the NHL. You're supposed to be a tough guy, so he did that. He did everything they told him to do. He's in Canada. You're supposed to play hockey. He played hockey. He played in the NHL.
You're supposed to be a tough guy.
So he did that.
He did everything they told him to do.
He got out of the NHL.
He tried to invest his money, right?
They said, don't just sit on your money.
Don't waste it.
Don't be an idiot.
Put it in mutual funds like somebody smart.
So it fucking crashes.
He does that.
He loses everything.
Be a mortgage broker.
That's good.
Blah, blah.
Nope, that doesn't work.
No.
Nothing has worked for this guy.
And he has literally tried his hardest to always do the best he can.
He fell to mining, James.
That's what I mean.
He is fucking mining.
If you're mining, good for you, no doubt.
Yeah, you're a hero.
I guarantee you didn't play in the fucking NHL, though.
That's the point.
That's the point we're trying to get.
If you're in the NHL, that is a step down.
Right.
This is a step down.
It's tough.
Anything's a step down from professional sports.
It's a manual labor work, which is a great job if you've got a fucking union behind you.
Yeah, it's fine.
But if you're a guy that, fuck, you had everything and now you're mining, that's brutal.
It's tough, man.
In these documents of the CTE thing, they talk about multiple fights that he had that
are in these documents and what happened to him.
They talk about the fight with Berube where he had a concussion and everything went black
after the white.
Yeah. They talk about the fight with Berube where he had a concussion and everything went black after the white. November 93, in a fight with Mark Tenorti, Berube's nose was broken and he saw stars.
After the game, he was very spacey and out of it and just post-concussion.
They didn't know about that then.
They knew about it.
The doctor, the upper echelon fucking knew about it.
And they just ignored it and said they're fine.
So that's what happened there.
Another fight with Donald Brashear.
He lost his balance and hit his head on the ice and got a concussion.
That's ironic with Brashear, cracking your head on the ice.
But Rudy did.
In his rookie year, he had gotten a fight with Dave Brown.
I hope that's not the former Giant quarterback who sucked terribly and played at Duke, I believe.
I hope he beat his ass.
Fuck, he was terrible.
That guy caused my father to throw a remote control about 30 feet across the house and explode it into 30 feet.
It fucking exploded everywhere from Dave Brown, the shitty Giants quarterback.
Fuck you, Dave Brown.
So he said he got in a fight with him, and he said he was hit so hard in that fight that he saw black,
and he said it felt like he stepped into a dark room.
Wow.
No vision at all.
The only treatment he received for any of these concussions was an ice bag.
They just gave him an ice bag.
An ice bag.
They didn't further examine him.
The medical guys on the team said, there you go.
Throw that on your head, pal.
That'll feel better.
When I was five years old, I was jumping on a bed and fell off and hit my head on a block, like those fucking wood blocks with letters and shit on them. And I got up, I,
I don't remember it. My mom told me about it, but I came into the living room to tell her that my
head hurt and I had, it was bleeding and all that shit. And she told me, she told me to go back to
my room and she was going to bring a rag to clean it up. And I walked to the front door and smashed
into it and fell down. And that's when she realized I couldn't see.
And so she took me to the hospital.
The hospital kept me overnight.
Yeah.
And this guy's getting a fucking ice bag and sent on his way.
Because he's a hockey player.
And they go, well, it's bananas.
Are you going to be a pussy?
I was diagnosed with a concussion.
Yeah.
Obviously.
And they kept me overnight to make sure that I was okay.
I'm not a pussy.
I don't have a concussion.
Like, that's a decision.
I probably have major brain damage from it.
It's probably why I attempted suicide.
Like, that's a decision that you made.
Right.
Yeah.
It's fucking so stupid, man.
Anyway.
It's ridiculous.
Point is, you need more than a fucking ice bag to treat that.
You need medical attention.
It's ridiculous.
He says that he, in the suit, it says, Mr. Pochek was, has been, and will continue to
be damaged as a direct and proximate result of NHL's misconduct, as described herein.
Among other things, Mr. Pochek continues to suffer on a daily basis from insomnia, short-term memory loss, anxiety, mood swings, and anger issues, forgetfulness, and general frustration.
My God.
He's a fucking mess.
Yeah.
And he says, and this is what's sad, too.
This is his quote on it.
He says, quote, I did what I had to do to get into the league.
But you're oblivious.
You're young.
He's fucking 17.
He's playing hockey.
You don't think you're going to have these issues.
Nobody tells you.
They're in denial.
They don't want you to get.
They don't want to have to have to get out their wallets.
Once you're done with them, they don't care about a player like me.
It's not that they have to get out their wallets.
They have to fucking sew up their wallet and not make the money
because you're fucking bringing crowds.
He says, unless you're a superstar
in the league, they don't care about you when you're
done. And we've said that repeatedly. Silver-haired, middle-aged
white man, number one on that.
Yeah, no, they don't want to break out their wallets because if they
pay you, they're going to have to fucking pay everybody.
There's no way to play hockey and
not get concussions. There's no way to play football
and not get concussions. It's ridiculous.
You think that if you're a star they
don't care if you're not a star they don't care about you ask junior fucking say how he was a
star and they still didn't that's the nfl right yeah i'm saying though it doesn't matter what
sport it is fire when you're done i don't give a shit if you're not if you're a star they it
doesn't matter what sport it is no but they all acted like kid gloves with lindros like oh poor
guy he's gonna be Lemieux.
Same thing.
It was fine with him.
Crosby nowadays
are way different.
But I mean,
this was the 90s, 80s.
To him, they were just like,
you're a fucking enforcer.
Of course your head hurts.
You got punched in it
10 times, dummy.
Just yesterday.
Get it ready for tomorrow.
That's it.
It was like,
what the fuck are you doing here?
What he said basically
was the mission statement
of the silver-haired
middle-aged white man there.
Unless you're a superstar in the league, they don't care about you when you're done.
Lawsuit claims, obviously, all the subconcussive and concussive events were ignored.
He talked about how he'd just go to the penalty box and clear his head and then get right back on the ice.
A few times he asked a trainer if he should worry about the times he couldn't see.
Couldn't see. And they would tell him that he was fine. The trainer would go, no, you're fine. he should worry about the times he couldn't see couldn't see and they
would tell him that it was fine the trainer go no you're fine don't worry about it no no i can't see
yeah they're like yeah just clear out your head you know how you got eyes and they work mine don't
my i can't see a thing i'm looking at you and there's nothing there's nobody you might not even
be there you might be behind me i might not be looking at you he said actually about this is
crazy he said quote i asked one of the doctors, I get
tagged sometimes and I see black. What is that?
Is that going to affect me later on? And then
he said, quote, he basically dismissed it.
Nah, you're fine. You're a hockey player.
You'll be fine. There's about 80 players
that now
that were in the suit at this point.
It originally filed with 20 players in June
of, or in 2013.
So a lot of players are doing this.
We have an in their own word on what Rudy's up to nowadays, how he feels in their own.
This is sad in their own words.
Quote, I misplace everything every day.
It's a disaster in the summertime.
It's hot and it cools off at night.
I'll go up and turn the air conditioning off and open all the windows, then go back
to what I was doing.
Ten minutes later, I go back to turn off the air conditioning again.
I forgot I turned it off.
Oh, my God.
He's in that space.
He's like my grandmother now.
That is terrible.
Yeah.
So his wife, Heather, said that she's been creative to try to keep things from going
missing because he can't remember shit.
She said, quote, I try to think.
Let's have a set place for keys, wallet, and for phone.
I try not to think about it because if I think about it, I get really upset.
She says his personality has also changed.
He's been quick to get angry, even suffering hearing loss.
Now, she said, quote, his hearing has quickly lately just gone horribly.
I used to think he was just tuning me out, but he cannot hear.
Then it gets then he gets agitated.
It's a circle of madness.
I don't want to think about what this could be.
Yeah, but also, too, a side effect of painkiller abuse is hearing loss.
And that's probably part of it, too.
Getting hit in the fucking head a shitload, too.
Getting smashed in the head and then taking pills to combat it.
That's a nasty, vicious cycle.
And then he talks about how a lot of guys have died early.
Yeah.
Because they've had their...
And it's not just the CTE doesn't kill them necessarily, but they do crazy shit that causes
their death.
All kinds of stuff.
Yeah.
All of these guys.
Every time a guy kills himself or does something crazy, ends up dead, they test his brain.
It's fucking pudding.
Period.
It is butterscotch.
End of story.
It is.
It's true.
It's true, man so it's sad it's it's funny and it's fucking depressing because all i see is just bill cosby going jello pudding pie
that's what their brain is made of right and then he raves the chicks yeah that's sad always
uh rudy said he he wakes up every morning knowing about people in the premature deaths. He said, it does cross my mind.
I try not to think about it too much.
I probably hide what I'm thinking a lot of the times because you don't fucking know.
Bob Probert died in 2010 of a big heart attack, and he was a hardcore alcoholic and into drugs.
And Probert had a hard time after.
He was hardcore CTE, too.
Very much so.
He said about Probert, quote, first off, I was sad.
I knew everything he gave to the game.
With a guy like that, it makes you wonder, too.
We had similarities in our fighting styles.
We didn't mind taking a punch to make a punch.
It's just so funny to hear a guy that is playing a sport say, I had a fighting style.
I had a fighting style.
Yeah, like you're a fucking MMA guy.
And both of them had the style of grab you with the left hand, punch with the right.
So when they got together, it was grab, grab, punch, punch, punch, punch, punch, punch, punch.
So they probably damaged each other.
But he did that with everybody, Brobert.
Rudy said he would definitely like to donate his brain to CTE research, but hopefully not for a long time.
He said, quote, I think it would be a good idea.
Hopefully it's no time soon.
It's something that you don't want to think about, but it's a good idea.
Yeah.
I would say so.
June of 2016, he was still searching for work.
He says, quote, I definitely still have to work.
He made about $3 million in his NHL career.
That's not a lot.
A little shy of it.
About 2.8.
And he lost 70% of it in the fucking NASDAQ.
He said, quote, but you know, tax is a divorce.
It goes pretty fast.
You bet.
And stock, too. $, tax is a divorce. It goes pretty fast. You bet. Stock, too.
Three million ain't nothing.
He has another driving offense somewhere in here that we can't find a date.
June of 2017, just this year, he fails to appear in court.
God damn it, Rudy.
Doesn't appear in June.
Damn it, Rudy.
June 15th, 2017, they issue a warrant for missing a court date on a new charge.
The charge was on the original charge that he was supposed to be in court for was breaching his probation.
And then he now he's got another court.
Now he's got another warrant for failure to appear.
October 12th, 2017.
He's to answer for that.
The, you know, missing the date earlier.
He's supposed to stand trial in December for breaching probation and failing to appear.
They schedule it now for December.
He says, he tells the news that his memory is failing him.
He said the breach charge was laid out after he forgot about a meeting with his probation officer.
He said he also said he nearly forgot to show up to a previous court date the last year.
He said, I don't fucking know what I'm doing.
Oh, my God.
You need to give your wife the dates and have her fucking help you or hire a assistant.
Clearly.
Something.
But he's suing the NHL.
He's suing everything.
The CTE lawsuit.
Head's on.
It goes on.
And honestly, I hope all these fucking players win these goddamn suits.
I hope he wins, yeah.
Them, the NFL guys, all of them.
I'm sorry, but they get their fucking heads beaten in, and they goddamn knew about that
shit for years.
How much fucking money do you need, Jerry Jones?
That's what I mean.
And I'll even say I would like it if they gave all the old, old guys money, too.
But they didn't know about it in the 70s.
They didn't know about it.
Right.
The second they fucking found one speck of it.
Right.
They didn't say a word.
Not a word.
I want every guy from that forward to get paid out because that's bullshit.
Anyway, can't get enough of Rudy.
word to get paid out because that's bullshit.
Anyway, can't get enough of Rudy.
By the way, we did not do a mistaken identities because there is no one else on fucking earth besides his kid named Rudy Pocha.
That's great.
Nobody.
Good for you.
Difficult.
So I got to not look up a bunch of people.
Everybody not being confused with this mess.
That saved me an hour looking into people and finding out what they do.
Can't get enough, though.
By the way, when you type in Rudy Pochek auto, auto parts comes up before autograph.
What?
Just so you know.
Auto parts comes up before autograph.
That's depressing.
So that's depressing.
That means he's searching for new auto parts for his car.
I think so.
Rudy Pochek car parts.
So if you are looking, though, there are autographed cards out there and autographed things.
We have an autographed 1996 upper deck card.
It is $22.78 plus $5.99 shipping.
That's a deal.
That's not bad.
An autographed St. Louis Blues puck, which is pretty cool.
Oh, that's really cool.
It's a puck with the Blues logo on his signature.
Pretty awesome, actually.
$12.99 only.
That's better than the fucking card.
Not bad.
Plus $7 shipping.
Yeah.
only. That's better than the fucking card. Not bad.
Plus $7 shipping.
Also a signed New York Rangers photo of Rudy
that says, quote,
to Linda, best of luck.
Who the fuck is Linda?
Oh my God. Problem is the person just said,
can you autograph that to Dave?
Fucking putting brain. He didn't get it. He said,
okay, Linda, here you go.
The actual photo is a picture of him on the
Rangers. It says, to Linda, best of luck.
And it's an autograph.
It's $15 plus $3 shipping.
It's pretty fucking hilarious.
If you ask me, you can buy an autograph picture from him with somebody else's name on it.
That's hilarious.
I like that shit a lot.
And that is Rudy Pochek.
My God.
A crazy hockey player with not really being all his fault, but still what a fucking disaster.
God damn it. I mean, it's still
partially his fault because he did
do the shit that got him
in trouble. Yeah, but like I said at the
time, he just did what he thought was, what everyone
told him was the right thing to do.
It wasn't like he smoked
five packs a day and the doctors were going, hey man,
you're going to get cancer, and he got cancer.
He asked, is this okay? And they were like, you're good.
You're good now. Fuck it. You're good. You'll be fine tomorrow. Don't worry about it. He went through the 80s too. and he got cancer they were like he asked is this okay and they're like you're good you're good now fuck it you're good you'll be fine tomorrow don't worry about
he went through the 80s too it's not like he they were like feeding him cocaine with all those all
those say no to drugs ads and then he's being a nudnik because they were just telling your head's
fine buddy your head's good fuck man it's crazy if you like that story i know what you can do yeah
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First of all, Susan Olgis, she's a truck driver, and she sends snaps and stuff to me, but she
sent me a snap of her trying the fudgesicle and Yoo-Hoo challenge.
James believes that fudgesicles probably taste like Yoo-Hoo.
He believes that they are just frozen Yoo-Hoo.
It seems like it.
And Susan actually, first of all, she melted it down, and it says on the package that there's
two ounces, or two and a half ounces, I believe it said, 2.5.
Bullshit, first of all.
Does the stick count?
It may be weight.
Oh, I bet it's a stick.
It may be weight. Ishit, first of all. Does the stick count? It may be weight. It may be weight.
It could be because it is actually 1.7 fluid ounces of chocolate that makes a fudgicle.
And also, she melted it down and tried it.
She tried it, then washed her mouth out, and then tried the Yoo-Hoo, and Yoo-Hoo, she said, is better.
Well, I would think, yeah.
The fudgicle is much more chocolatey, she did say, though.
So what we're saying, if we froze Yoo-Hoo, we'd have something special here.
We might have something a little less chocolatey.
Thank you for doing that field work.
And a little more refreshing.
Thank you for doing that field work for me, because now I can do it.
Thank you.
Good work.
Appreciate you.
So Jess Landgren and Christiane Castaldi again.
God damn it.
Thank you, guys.
They're so generous.
They almost lead the charge in financing this shit for us.
No, they really do.
Honestly.
Thank you guys so much. Fantastic two women the charge in financing this shit for us. No, they really do. Honestly. Thank you guys so much.
Fantastic two women.
It's hard to do without you.
We're going to be in Boston next month, or February, rather, to thank Chrissy for sure
in person.
Yes, we will absolutely do that.
Andrea Peck sent us a package last week.
I just wanted to mention her.
James Cook, Ingrid?
Ingrid Stoke, the one from Arstaki?
Shit, I'm not sure. She's in North Korea. No, it's not. Oh, yeah, yeah. Ingrid. Ingrid Stoke, the one from Arstaki. Shit, I'm not sure.
She's in North Korea.
No, it's not.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
In Norway.
In Norway.
I see N-O-K.
She sent us more North Korean money.
North Korean cash.
Yeah, she sent more.
Thank you so much for letting North Koreans know.
And she signed up for Patreon, so thank you so much, Ingrid.
You're terrific.
That's awesome.
Thank you.
Nick Laycock.
Nick, again, this week, second time.
Or third time, maybe.
I'm not sure.
I don't remember.
That's amazing, man.
I lost track of how many times I've seen Lake Hawk.
Lena Fisher, Sierra Plotz, Lisa White, Danita, ah, fucking hell.
Danita Lautenschlager, Slager, Slager?
Ludenschluger.
I could ruin this name so many different ways.
You could do it all day long.
That's like that Rudenhauser or whatever his name was in League of Their Own.
No, not League of Their Own.
It's Rookie of the Year.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Rudenbagger.
Her last name could be ruined so many different ways.
And you would ruin it.
And I'll find every different way.
Kat Power, again, she sent some dough again.
Thanks, Kat.
Thank you, Kat.
And that's Kat Kapow. Kapow Designs. She makes shit. Yeah, look up her stuff and buy some dough again. Thanks, Kat. Thank you, Kat. And that's Kat Kapow.
Kapow Designs.
She makes shit.
Yeah, look up her stuff and buy some from her.
Kapow.
K-
No, C-
C-A-P-A-
Fuck.
C-A-P-O-W Designs.
There you go.
Find that stuff and send her money and make her make you some shit.
Kat's always good to us.
She's a good person.
I like her a lot.
Michelle Swinfield.
Sarah Gilbo. She's donated a few times, too her a lot. Michelle Swinfield, Sarah Gilbo. She's
donated a few times, too. Thank you, Sarah. Emily, not going to do it. Emily Wenner. It's
Wenner. There you go. I think it's Wenner. What do you want to call her? I don't want
to call her that. Okay. You were going for Weiner. I don't want to do that to her. It's
probably Wenner. Yes, probably. Katie Johnson. And then Kasten. No, it's Kasten Johnson and I
called him a woman. I didn't call him a woman
but I assumed that he was a female.
He is definitely not a female. Rodney
Horn, Gabriel, Gabriel,
Gabriel,
Gabriel Orelli.
That's it. Dana Grayson again.
John Taylor, Michelle Strand,
Marius Zalj Johnson,
Susan August, like I said, or August.
August.
I believe it's August.
Steve Lexa, Laura Christensen, Kristen Mailhot or Malot or Malow.
It could be Mailow.
Fuck.
I'm going to breeze right by it.
It's something.
It's one of those.
It starts with an M.
Mike Ribeiro, Georgia.
Not Georgia.
It's Ginger.
Ginger CK.
CH. Yeah, CH. What the shit? What am it's Ginger Ginger CK CH what the shit
what am I doing
Ginger CK
is something else
I know
that's a terrible person
a Ginger CK
will force you to watch
things you don't want to watch
that's right
Dan Anderson
Hannah Edinger
again she's terrific
thank you Hannah
Adrian
Nick
fucking
Krezovich
Krezovich no it's an N that's Nezavich Thank you, Hannah. Adrian, Nick Krezovich.
No, it's an N.
That's Nezavich.
That's it.
You don't pronounce the K, right?
When there's a KN, you never pronounce the K.
Not usually.
It could be Knezovich, but it's probably Nezavich. It depends on what it is, yeah.
It's Nick Nezavich.
Well, in English, there's the KN, but in other cultures, it's actually Kuna.
You can't put consonants together like that.
Jesus Christ.
It ruins everything.
Hannah Hardman, Matt Jelonic.
It's Jelonic.
I think so.
I like how you say it with assurity after you screw it up three times.
So much confidence.
Absolutely.
Kyle Letcher or Lecker.
Letcher.
Sean Streeter, Paul Higgins, Amanda Windsor, Anita – no, it's Eden.
Not Anita. Why, it's Eden.
Not Anita.
Why would I do that?
Eden Finelli, Marie Chirico.
And Sarah upped her donation.
She doesn't have a last name, just Sarah.
Thank you, Sarah.
Thank you, Sarah.
Bronwyn English.
That's fun.
Nicole Peterson Green, Tanya Boddy, Ashley Collins, Kylie Harmon, Karitina?
No, it's Karitina?
Karitina.
Karitina.
That's got to be it.
Okay.
Karen Warner.
Karitina.
Jennifer Bachelder.
They are fucking tough this week. Jesus, you are dying over there.
You're drowning.
It's not easy.
Jamie Noonan, Stijan, really?
S-T-I-J-A-N.
You pronounce that.
Stijan?
Stijan de Boer.
Stijan?
Steen?
Maybe it's Stein.
It could be German.
Steen?
Okay.
We're making it worse.
I'm going to convince you of so many ways.
We're making it worse.
So Terry Staudinger, that one's an easy one, right?
I probably just fucked that up. And she's like, it's not as easy as you think it worse. So Terry Stodinger. That one's an easy one, right? I probably just fucked that up.
And she's like, it's not as easy as you think it is.
This is a dickhead.
No.
Anthony Connell.
Jackie Neal.
Timothy Young.
Jennifer Boney.
Or Bone?
Bon?
Boner.
No.
It's not Boner.
Jennifer Boner?
Jennifer Boner.
There's no R.
Okay.
So why?
You just wanted to say Boner.
Jennifer Vonnie.
All right.
I think that's it.
Thomas Gallagher. Adam Baker. Ben Ocote, Maddie Gallagher, Jake Cote.
So there's a Ben Ocote and then there's a Jake Cote.
It may be Cody.
Oh, there you go.
It could be any of those.
Cote, it could be.
Yes.
And Sophie Krokvist.
Krok?
You just said Krokvist.
K-R-O-K-V-I-S-T. Krokvist. Okay. Krokvist. Krok? You just said Krok. K-R-O-K-V-I-S-T.
Krokvist.
Okay.
Krokvist.
Sure.
I don't know.
Adrienne Geppner in Oklahoma.
She's terrific, and she's a mom.
She's fucking hysterical on Snapchat.
Find her and laugh.
She's fantastic.
Awesome.
And then Courtney Gross.
Thank you all so much for everything.
God, guys, thank you so much.
This week was fucking fantastic.
Yes, thank you guys for hanging out with us through the holidays, and God damn it, those people are amazing. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I'm so thankful. This week was fucking fantastic. Yes. Thank you guys for hanging out with us through the holidays.
God damn it.
Those people are amazing.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
I'm so thankful.
Every week.
Thank you guys so much.
Seriously.
Yes.
From the bottom of our hearts.
Every dime is, we take it to heart.
And it's not just like, oh, that's got a dime to spend.
Right.
We're like, dude, that guy, that person, that woman, that guy. They give a shit.
They actually care enough to like take the time to do that.
I mean, if we were standing in front of guy, they actually care enough to take the time to do that.
I mean, if we were standing in front of them, they might throw us a buck or something. But to actually get online, actually go into your phone, go into a thing, put the effort, put your card.
That's awesome.
And thank you guys so much for that.
What if one of these fine people wanted to get a hold of a fella kind of like you?
How would they do that?
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Thank you guys so much for this week.
It was incredible.
Seeing your Thanksgiving was pretty kick-ass, too.
Yeah, we enjoyed that.
I hope you enjoyed seeing mine.
So stick around.
Play along.
We appreciate it.
Thank you guys.
Definitely.
You didn't see my Thanksgiving because I'm super weird and private.
But, you know.
Also, too, another thing.
Quick, before I say this.
We're going to do a live show in Phoenix in the spring.
Yes.
And my grandmother is coming to the show.
Get out of my life. Yes. Badass
grandma. She hashtagged her.
Badass grandma who hid from the Nazis
and shit. She will be there. She can't
wait. And she's going to say a couple
words and wave to everybody. Oh yes. She's going to do
the whole thing. She's a ham. She's a ham.
She'll love it. I can't wait. She'll love it. So we're going to
do that so you can meet badass grandma too as an
extra added bonus. You can get a. She'll love it. So we're going to do that so you can meet Badass Grandma, too, as an extra added bonus.
You can get a hold of me at JimmyPIsFunny, or you can try to spell my last name.
Good luck.
There's an I in there.
Try to find it.
It's like an Easter egg hunt.
Best of luck.
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