Crime in Sports - #97 - His Strangles Know No Bounds - The Hostileness of Elijah Dukes

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Starting point is 00:04:51 It's going to be awesome. Trust me on that. We're going to have a blast. Besides all that, though, never mind all that shit. We're past Jeremy Mayfield and his insanity and his meth-fueled nuttiness. How many of which NASCARs ran on meth? Oh, man. Oh, God.

Starting point is 00:05:07 It would be so fast. What's that run on? Meth? No, it's nitrous or meth? What are we doing here? Is that methanol? We fought with his wife on Twitter. She attacked us on Twitter.

Starting point is 00:05:17 Didn't listen to the episode. No, she didn't. We were actually really nice to her, which is funny. Yeah, we were so sympathetic to her. Yeah, we were sympathetic to her. The funny thing, it would be one thing if she came out and just said, you know, hey, you guys are jerks and you're mean to my husband. Like, we get that.

Starting point is 00:05:29 Like, that would be fine. But she sounded like a crazy person on meth, is what, not saying she's on meth. I don't know what she does. She sure sounded like it. But she sounds like it. When you come out and you go, it's not him. NASCAR had a big, she literally said it was a big conspiracy that NASCAR had him fail three drug tests.

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Starting point is 00:06:03 meth-y. and it's obvious, and we don't need it because there was literal tests. Right. So it's a funny thing now. I don't give a shit. Science proved it. Yeah, I don't give a shit

Starting point is 00:06:12 what, like, nowadays we're in some sort of post-truth, whatever the fuck. I'm still of the mind when there's a test of something that's scientific. You can't just say that didn't happen. It's ridiculous.

Starting point is 00:06:23 I'm sorry. It happened. If you made a poor choice by marrying a fucking meth head with a failed career, that's your problem, lady. Get your shit off of Twitter with it and keep your fucking lunatic friends out of it, too. I don't care. You can come at us because our people just savaged you anyway. I didn't have to say a fucking word.

Starting point is 00:06:40 I didn't say one word to that. Just let everyone else handle it. And they fucking let her have it. She also had other NASCAR toothless fucks talking about how great she is. My favorite part is just that she's so involved with that guy. If she would have left him fucking years ago, she would have had half of that shit and still would be fine today because they wouldn't be able to have her half. She's clearly a codependent lunatic, so that's the problem. It's just amazing that she can defend.

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Starting point is 00:07:17 He's an idiot. Moving forward. Moving on to possibly a bigger idiot this week even. Not a big of an idiot, but just a guy. Oh boy, let's get it on. This is a thick one. Let's get it on. Possibly a bigger idiot this week even. Not big of an idiot, but just a guy. Oh, boy. Let's get it on. This is a thick one. Let's get it on.

Starting point is 00:07:28 Let's get it on because this is thick. Let's talk about a live. First of all, his name is awful. Elijah David Dukes. Oh, boy. So he's a black guy. Yeah. And he's got David Dukes.

Starting point is 00:07:40 He's got David Duke in his name. With David Duke in his name. Also, guess what? Junior. Elijah David Dukes Jr. We have here. Oh, for Christ's sake. It's junior time, everybody.

Starting point is 00:07:50 Our favorite time. It's junior time. Yeah. It's for the holidays. We get a nice junior in there for the holidays. I like it. So this particular junior, just Elijah Dukes is what he's known as, though. But he is a junior.

Starting point is 00:08:03 He's born, Insanity started way back on June 26, 1984. Okay. He's from Homestead, Florida. Fairly young fella. Fairly young fella, yeah. Now he's pretty young now. Shit, he's not even- He's 33 years old.

Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah, 33. He's from Homestead, Florida is where he was born, which is basically Miami. Yeah. It's in that area. It's still Florida. Yeah. It's South Florida. Miami can claim to be great. That's fine, but you're still in Florida. It's in that area? It's still Florida. Yeah. It's South Florida. Miami can claim to be great.

Starting point is 00:08:27 That's fine. But you're still in Florida. You're in Florida. He grew up poor. Yeah. He grew up real poor. Anything called homestead, I imagine, is pretty fucking broke. It sounds like you just set up a tent.

Starting point is 00:08:38 Right. And you just put it out there. And your kids sit outside of it dirty like those Dust Bowl pictures. It's homestead. There's seven homes here. Everyone's just covered in dust. Right. So it's Florida,ead. There's seven homes here. Everyone's just covered in dust. So it's Florida, though. A couple inches of it.

Starting point is 00:08:48 They're not covered in dust. They're covered in- They sweat, and it's got like that fucking dirt ripple. You know what I mean? They're just sitting there covered in sweat holding a Cuban sandwich. It's just terrible. Cubans are delicious. They're delicious.

Starting point is 00:09:01 Oh, fuck. To eat one while you're sweating like that sounds terrible. Extra salty. When he's eight years old in 1992, August of 1992, he's eight years old. His family, him and his family, they live in the poorest part of the course. Of course they do. They're super poor. Actually, he has four siblings.

Starting point is 00:09:20 It's mom, dad, senior, Elijah Duke, senior, and four other siblings, not all from Elijah Duke senior. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure Elijah's the only one from his father, but he's still around. And it's weird because he's the – it's a very strange situation. Anyway. So many kids. There's a lot of kids around. And you've got to try to keep up with that. And he's the only one that's this guy's kid.

Starting point is 00:09:43 Well, it gets harder for them to keep up with it because in August of 1992, Hurricane Andrew came through. Oh, fuck. And absolutely leveled. And where he lived in that part is like the hardest hit part of the entire city. It was a hard, strong. Category four, yeah? It was a category five when it hit Homestead. Was it?

Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah. Category five when it hit Homestead. Was it? Yeah. Category five when it hit Homestead. Leveled it. Gone. Everything gone. Just ridiculous. He had four siblings at this point. I mean, that's totally bad here.

Starting point is 00:10:13 Didn't lose a sibling? Didn't lose a sibling. What they salvaged from everything was two photographs. This is all they got out of their possession. Seven people's possessions. They got two photographs and a small radio. Holy shit. That's all they got. Two family photographs. And a waterlog got two photographs and a small radio holy that's all they got two family photographs and a shitty radio and then the next day the radio was stolen oh and it's from a when they were in a shelter oh my god so down to two family

Starting point is 00:10:35 photographs everything wiped out and they were poor to begin with yeah and then they have lose everything that you the little meager possessions you have are gone now which has to be just horrible on not only the kids but then the parents have to try to, fuck, I have to provide for these kids. What do I do? I've got to rebuild, and I've got nothing. They moved to Tampa, but they had no money. So they had to, they really, and also there was a lot of people going to Tampa from South Florida from the hurricane. So rents actually went up in Tampa.

Starting point is 00:11:04 That's a smart thing to do because of all the hurricanes that have gone through Florida, I think Tampa has never had one. They don't get hit hard, Tampa. It's a weird thing. They're in a strange little place. It's just in that little armpit of Florida, and it's not on the East Coast. It's not on the East Coast coming from there, exactly. So that's the way that works, and it's south, too, when it comes from that.

Starting point is 00:11:23 Miami's just right. Oh, Christ. When they're coming from the east, when they're coming from the south, anywhere, they're just getting pummeled. So, yeah, there's a lot of people there. They had a hard time finding a place to live. Sure. They were forced to live in a shelter for a while. That's, I mean, Jesus.

Starting point is 00:11:39 And then finally they moved in with an aunt up there. They had an apartment finally, which was near a Copeland Park area, which I don't know Tampa very well, though. They later moved to Sulphur Springs. Yeah. And when they did, the father, Elijah Sr., took a job as a truck driver there. So they're trying to stabilize. They moved into a duplex in Sulphur Springs, which is better than a shelter or living with their aunt. It's better than having nothing.

Starting point is 00:12:05 It's better. Yes. they probably have a radio again. We'll put it that way. So that's good for them. That's funny, too. A small radio. I don't picture like a boom box. I'm picturing like a clock radio. Like a little radio.

Starting point is 00:12:14 Like a little radio you'd put in a shop and have AM going through it. Put in the window in the kitchen. Something like that. Yeah, that's what I figure, which is so – it feels like – I mean, this is the 90s. To have that stolen, though. This is the 90s. It was like our radio. It's like, Jesus, that's what I figure, which is so – it feels like – I mean, this was the 90s. To have that stolen, though. This was the 90s. It was like our radio. It's like, Jesus, that's so bad.

Starting point is 00:12:29 It's literally all we had. Yeah. So there was Elijah, and then he's very close to his younger brother who's only a year younger than him, Tyrone Evans. Tyrone Evans and Elijah were both very close to their father. Their father actually was involved with their life, took them fishing, went to all their sporting events. Both of them are athletes. Both the children are athletes.

Starting point is 00:12:52 Went to their, you know, the father wanted them to do well, encouraged them to do good in school. And then? Well, where they lived, terrible part of Tampa also. They are poor as shit. Not a good, a lot of drug dealers, prostitutes everywhere. Just not a great place to be for a kid. There's very few places in Tampa that are amazing.

Starting point is 00:13:13 No. I remember one of my grandmothers had a little condo there, and she'd go down there. It was just all old people. Tampa, St. Pete, Clearwater area. It's just so fucking gross. Yeah. Sorry, Florida. It's very Florida.

Starting point is 00:13:25 We dealt with Florida last week, and it's not great. We dealt with Heather and her tattoo boobs on another podcast, the whole deal. So at nine years old, he's living in Tampa. Yeah. Dad's a truck driver. They're struggling to make ends meet. So the mother, Phyllis, she has a plan to try to make, you know, help a little bit. I'm fine.

Starting point is 00:13:46 Help out. The truck driving and that sort of thing. So she's like, what am I going to do here? I got an idea. Yeah. I am going to start selling crack. Perfect. That's what you...

Starting point is 00:13:54 That's... I think this may be the first crack selling mom we've ever encountered. Have we? Have we had a crack selling mom? I don't think so. I don't think we have. We had the prostitute mom. She...

Starting point is 00:14:04 I'm telling you through this whole thing, she's up for the 2017 Mama Gilritha award, by the way, for most supportive mother of a criminal athlete. And she started selling crack. She really is. She started selling crack. She said she never used it, but like everyone

Starting point is 00:14:20 around, because they lived in the ghetto, so there was people that smoked crack. She's just an entrepreneur. The way she put it, she said quote, for her friends and neighbors went around because they lived in the ghetto. So there was people that smoked crack. She's just an entrepreneur. She sees a need. She said, quote, for her friends and neighbors to enjoy it. Like she was the ice cream man. It's crack. It was sad. It wasn't to party.

Starting point is 00:14:34 It's crack. It's like she's selling Avon. No. It was because they were very sad drug addicts. And so there was no enjoyment. I just wanted to help Melvin down the way. I only want to spread happiness. That's all it is. I got crack rocks. That so there was no enjoyment. I just wanted to help Melvin down the way. I only want to spread happiness. That's all it is.

Starting point is 00:14:47 I got crack rocks. That's my form of happiness. I see them shaking and they're having withdrawals. I just want to fix it. I just want to make a couple extra bucks. Let me get two. That's what I'm saying. So it's unreal.

Starting point is 00:15:01 Ridiculous. And she came up tough, too. I mean, she came up. She was one of eight children when she came up. Her mother's name was Pearlene. Pearlene's an old tough black woman name. That's Pearlene Evans right there. She will whoop your fucking ass.

Starting point is 00:15:14 And mix Pearl and Eileen together. She will tell you to go pick a switch in a heartbeat and whoop your fucking ass with it. Yeah. Her parents split up when she was just very small. Yeah. Her parents, her parents split up when she was just very small. Yeah. Her mom was a God during the day. Her mom picked tomatoes, beans and squash and then clean motel rooms at night. How not even hotels, motels.

Starting point is 00:15:37 How tough is that? And that's a tough ask. She raised eight kids like that. That's amazing. That's what that's what America needs is people like that. I mean, imagine if you gave someone like that a slightest bit of resources. You know what I mean? She'll crush it. Yeah. So that's someone who's really, really working hard.

Starting point is 00:15:52 She'll be Oprah tomorrow with a little bit of resources. Yeah, exactly. She'll do anything. Phyllis, Elijah's mother, said, quote, I wanted to be her, to watch her there always cooking, washing, cleaning, making sure the kids are off to school. That's amazing. That was with two jobs, too. She was doing all that.

Starting point is 00:16:07 Still thought of as a present mother. Problem, though, she is selling crack films. This is an issue. This isn't great. Let's go back and visit that real quick again. Let's talk about the nice story about her mom and go back to her selling crack. I wanted to be my mom so bad that I just started this crack industry. You ever smell any crack?

Starting point is 00:16:24 You ever do that? It's pretty interesting. One night in 1996, Elijah's 11 years old. It's not quite his birthday yet. Basically, she was looking for crack to sell, and she bought some crack from a crack dealer, about $100 worth of crack, and it was fake. Oh. And so she was super pissed off.

Starting point is 00:16:44 Yep. So Elijah Duke Sr., I guess just off from the truck driving job that day, he takes a gun and shoots the guy in the chest at point blank rage. He didn't even go try to get his money back or try to fix it. He just wanted to fuck. No, no. He went to the guy. And I guess the guy, I don't know, told him, didn't give him, told him, I don't know what

Starting point is 00:17:01 the fuck to tell you or whatever. Tough shit. And he said, OK. Shot him in the chest. Wow. Point blank, he said, OK, shot him in the chest. Wow. Point blank, too. Just blasted him right in the chest. Killed the guy.

Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. So his dad ends up being arrested for murder. He's tried for second degree murder. He's convicted of second degree murder. God, the sister. And they all tell a story about how Elijah was crying and trying to, like, touch his dad as they took him away after they sentenced him to 20 years in prison. Oh, Christ. Brutal.

Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah. Brutal. And now, I mean, Paul, she had to, Phyllis had to sell crack before. Right. That was before without that income. That's the truck driving income. Things went downhill from here, obviously, for the whole family. Duke's mother went on welfare there. so now Phyllis is on welfare. Him and his brother just threw themselves.

Starting point is 00:17:52 Elijah and Tyrone threw themselves 100% into sports. It's all like, what else are you going to do, really? I mean, honestly, too, and they talk about here in a little bit how half the time the electric and the gas were shut off. Fuck. Shit like that. And they talk about here in a little bit how, you know, half the time the electric and the gas were shut off. Fuck. Shit like that. So they were like, man, you can go to school and just play sports. If you play every sport, you don't have to come home very much. And you just stay there and it's fine, you know, and it gives you something to do.

Starting point is 00:18:15 You don't have to see what the fuck's going on. Right. So, yeah, they did that. Elijah was, he is a physical specimen. Yeah. An absolute physical specimen. When he's at his peak, he's 6'2", 240. Holy shit.

Starting point is 00:18:27 And fast as the wind. I mean, that's an athlete. Yeah. He's 6'2", 240. And he's cut. Cut, fast, thick. Athletic. Just a big athletic.

Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. I mean, just one of those guys where you go, God damn, that's a fucking stud. Just that dude is made to be an athlete, you know? One night when he's a kid here, this is sad. Jesus Christ, man. This is a sad, sad childhood. It was pretty soon after his father's conviction. Sure.

Starting point is 00:18:54 So, I mean, shit's rough at home. The dad's not there. She's on welfare, having a hard time. Phyllis comes home with a swollen jaw and has several of her teeth in her hand. Oh, my God. And it turns out she was punched by a friend of the guy the father killed. Several times. Several.

Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah, well, I don't even know if several times or socked her once or whatever. It's very rare that you're going to knock out that many teeth with one shot. Whatever happened, she was pummeled by this guy's friend. And, yeah, this was tough on the kids, obviously. See, now dad's taken away. People are beating up their mom. And they're small. They're 11 and 10, 12.

Starting point is 00:19:30 You know, they can't do it. What the hell are they going to do about it? So Evans, Tyrone Evans, his brother, says, quote, to see someone beat up your mom, it does something to your psyche. Anytime someone comes within striking distance, you feel threatened. They said that the mother sat all the kids down and told them not to let the situation get them down. She tried to be positive. Mama Gilretha to the end here.

Starting point is 00:19:50 Mama Gilretha, by the way, is a reference to the Carlton Dotson episode of Crime and Sports, which is, I don't know, episode 11, 12, 13. It was so early. Really early. 14, maybe. But that's a good episode to look at because there were some early hints of all the shit that was going on at Baylor. Right.

Starting point is 00:20:03 We talked about it before it was a big deal. Right. So they said about her mom here, quote, she told us, you all don't have to live with anger in your hearts. Don't live with fear. She's trying her best. Yeah. But shit is tough, man. I mean, I understand you don't have to live with anger in your heart.

Starting point is 00:20:20 Fear. But how do you not live? How do you live that lifestyle and not have fear? I would think every fucking day. All these people would have fear. Phyllis said, quote, we made a bad choice. My kids, my kids was really hurt when their father went to prison. I was not going to lose my kids out in these streets.

Starting point is 00:20:35 So, I mean, yeah, she's a Southern. That's the most gangster fucking sense ever. She's not very educated either. You got to imagine. That's such a tough, tough, that statement alone just kind of defines his childhood. It does right there. His sister Katrina says, quote, sometimes we'd get home and the lights would be off. We could hear her crying.

Starting point is 00:20:54 That's when Elijah said, I'm going to grow up to be a professional player. My man. So Elijah's like, I'm taking the reins here. And they say pretty much as soon as – not long after the father went away, Elijah became the father figure for the other kids here. This sounds already like this could be a movie right now. If there's a happy ending, this is a movie of like Emmy, not Emmy, Oscar award winning movie because it's just a beautiful story at the beginning. Yeah, there's not going to be a movie at all. This is anything but happy.

Starting point is 00:21:26 This is anything but happy. There's going to be a movie at all. This is anything but happy. This is anything but happy. No, there's going to be a crime in sports. Worse than Dateline. Honestly, if you're someone who's doing anything untoward, would you rather have Dateline or us do an episode on you? You'd much rather have us talk about you, for sure. I would rather have Dateline talk about me. Would you?

Starting point is 00:21:41 Fuck yeah! They're going to be really nicer and more clinical. Yeah, they can't say, what an asshole. And they're not going to do it for two hours. They're not going to have some fucking character show up in an accent and make fun of you. And fucking none of that's going to happen on Dateline. Well, the good part about Dateline is that you- They're going to try to be balanced. I mean, the bad part about Dateline is that you don't have anybody to direct your anger at.

Starting point is 00:22:01 At least this way, you can tweet at us. Go ahead. Tweet all you want at Dateline. Nobody's going to pay attention. Nobody fucking pays attention when you complain to us. We don't care. Our listeners do.

Starting point is 00:22:12 They give a shit. Yeah, if you complain to us, I don't care. I've never seen anybody reply to a Dateline tweet. That's true. People reply to you. If you say shit to us,

Starting point is 00:22:19 we have hundreds of people that will tell you to eat dicks and how fucking hillbilly retarded you are. That's true, yes. It's a good point. I like the crime and sports movement for that. So, 97, he's trying to be like his dad. You know, he's just turned 13.

Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. And he becomes somewhat like his dad because at the age of 13 and 97, he's arrested for the first time. What? He's arrested at 13 for assault and battery, Tim. Of who? Somebody. He's 13 years old. Oh, there's not going to be much.

Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah, everything's sealed. Very, very hard to find. But you get the actual charge, and that's enough. Assault and battery, yeah. He's an angry kid. I would hope so. Very angry. I mean, he's angry.

Starting point is 00:23:03 He's a temper drop of a hat. Of course. He would go off super angry. He would hope so. Very angry. I mean, he's angry. He's a temper drop of a hat. Of course. He would go off super angry. He would get mad. He just kept saying he's going to become a professional athlete because every time the lights were off, it would stress him out and all that. So that was 97. So by the age of 14, he's trying to get his shit together here. You know, get ready for high school.

Starting point is 00:23:21 You bet. Because he was in middle school before. So weird. Going to work on his assault charge for middle school. But guess what? 98, he's 14. He's arrested again. Again on a battery charge again. So this is... And he's 14.

Starting point is 00:23:34 And he's just swinging on everybody. He's swinging on people. And he's a stocky, strong kid. I mean, he's no... Mama told him, lock out the fear and the anger. But keep that hate in your heart, buddy. He's hanging on to that anger for sure.

Starting point is 00:23:47 He's like, I'm going to keep that anger because that's going to fuel me. I can see, like, as an adult, if you've been through a decent childhood, as an adult, if everything's tough, like, you're angry. But you have somewhere to place it. And you place it on, like, the system and stuff. Yeah. When you're angry and you've had your child and you've had fucking nothing everywhere, it's everybody. Everybody's fault, everybody's problem.

Starting point is 00:24:09 They all have it better than you, is the way you're looking at it. So that's why you end up hanging out with other shitheads because you're the only people you can relate to. He already knows it's not his fault. I would assume. I would hope so. In your heart, you just gotta go, I didn't do anything to deserve this life. So that's what he's putting up with.

Starting point is 00:24:25 He didn't do anything wrong. No. Now he has. Now he has. He's going to do plenty wrong. But up until he was 13, out of his control. Completely not his fault. Mom selling crack.

Starting point is 00:24:34 Dad shooting people. No money. Fucking hurricane. You don't get more of an act of God than a fucking hurricane. Literally, wind comes in from the ocean and takes everything away. Like, that's, you know. Your whole environment is telling you you don't deserve shit. You will have nothing. wind comes in from the ocean and takes everything away right like that's you know your whole environment is telling you you don't deserve you don't you you will have nothing right yeah

Starting point is 00:24:49 and if you get anything excuse me here's a radio environment will fucking take it from you whether that be the wind and water or a human being who wants your radio someone in your world will fuck your shit up take everything from you uh. So, like I said, very fiery. His brother, Tyrone, said right away, he was like, you know, he noticed how angry he was, how angry Elijah was. He said, quote, sometimes I wish he could have my kind of attitude, you know, a laid back competitor. I just wish that sometimes he wouldn't wear his emotions on his sleeve.

Starting point is 00:25:21 But that's his makeup. I guess that's why he survived this far. He's just an emotional person. Yeah. So, I mean but that's his makeup i guess that's why he survived this far he's just an emotional person yeah so i mean that's the thing his brother is very even keeled very like pragmatic hey let's just figure this out problem solver well that's him yeah he's the second kid you know he whereas elijah's the i am feel responsible the lights are off i need to be a professional athlete so the lights won't be off whereas i don't think tyrone thought that he was just like shit i hope mom gets the lights on again so it's a different athlete so the lights won't be off. Whereas I don't think Tyrone thought that. He was just like, shit, I hope mom gets the lights on again. So it's a different thing here.

Starting point is 00:25:47 The problem with environments like this, too, is that you think that money solves every problem. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's just like, I just got to have money and we'll have no problems. Which is, it solves most of the problems. Yeah, but you got to factor in human behavior, too. Oh, definitely.

Starting point is 00:26:00 Definitely. But I mean, if your problem is the lights aren't on, that's not like an existential problem. That's a, I can't see shit. I want the lights on. Money will solve that immediate issue. We are hungry. Money. That was Chris Rock's joke, right?

Starting point is 00:26:15 If you can't read, that's mama's fault. If you can't read because the lights aren't on, that's daddy's fault. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Around this time, too, we haven't even reached high school yet. This is unbelievable. He's already been arrested twice. And his dad's a murderer and his mom sold crack. And his older brother, Willie Evans, is shot in the arm and in the leg during a drive-by.

Starting point is 00:26:36 Sweet Pete. So now they've got to visit the brother in the hospital. And, you know, Jesus Christ. And they likely don't have health coverage. Something. They'd have to take cold showers uh they would say you know the mother would tell them don't get too sweaty out there you'll have to take a cold shower so like they would come inside like oh shit don't get too sweaty yeah like don't stop we got to stop playing ball because we don't have any hot water like i felt a trickle down my forehead i have to quit i gotta stop now i'm

Starting point is 00:27:04 out of deodorant and and this is rough here. Tyrone said, quote, we spent countless nights crying because we wanted some of the things the other kids had. Elijah always told me, yo, T, it's going to get better, man. So he was trying to be the father figure. He gets to high school, has problems in high school. He goes to four different high schools. Last two years, he's at the same high school, but before that, he

Starting point is 00:27:27 goes to three. He goes to Jefferson High School, C. Leon King High School, and George D. Chamberlain High School. Those are his first two years. And it's disciplinary problems. Yeah, getting kicked out. Doesn't get along with people. Just having issues. Then he ends up, spends his final

Starting point is 00:27:44 two years at Hillsborough High in Tampa. There's a lot of athletes that went here. Carl Everett went here. Dwight Gooden went here. Yeah, there's a lot of people. This is like when we did the college in L.A. or the high school in L.A. and had a lot of – With the rich kids.

Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah, this is the same sort of thing except with athletes. Right. This Tampa area is rich for athletes. This is Darryl Strawberry came from this area. I was just going to say if Doug Gooden went there to Strawberry also. So they generate a lot of... Gary Sheffield too has come down there.

Starting point is 00:28:08 Yes, because he's... Sheffield, was that steroids or did he do coke with those boys? I don't know if he did coke because he's post-coke. He wasn't a rookie until 1990.

Starting point is 00:28:17 Those guys were coked up in 85. So he might have been... I'm mixing him up with Fred McGriff anyway. Yeah, McGriff isn't a coke guy at all. McGriff's kind of...

Starting point is 00:28:24 McGriff always reminded me... McGriff and Sheffield looked alike all. McGriff's kind of... McGriff always reminded me like... McGriff and Sheffield looked alike, except for McGriff didn't get as big as Sheffield got. McGriff was thin. Yeah, kind of. I don't know. I think you're just racist on that one. No, they didn't look alike at all, honestly.

Starting point is 00:28:35 Doc Gooden and Strawberry looked alike until Strawberry really got into it. Yeah, well, yeah. Young Doc Gooden and old Daryl Strawberry look the same. They look the same. You're right. When Doc got real, when he was skinny when he was a kid, and Strawberry had like cancer and a Coke problem when he was 40. Those together, that's when they really.

Starting point is 00:28:55 That is so funny. They can be father and son. He lettered all four years in both football and baseball. Okay. Notice I haven't said what sport we're doing yet because that's the drama in that. Four years in both football and baseball. Okay. Notice I haven't said what sport we're doing yet because that's the drama in that. He lettered all four years in both football and baseball. In football and baseball. And lettered two years in basketball and track also.

Starting point is 00:29:13 My Christ. So all four years in those two and then two years in basketball and track. This son of a bitch is athletic. Yeah. As a junior, he started at both tailback and as a middle linebacker. What? He was named class 3A all-state selection at linebacker and rushed for over 1,000 yards on offense. Sweet Pete.

Starting point is 00:29:29 Which is amazing. That's dominating both sides of the ball. Your linebacker ran for 1,000 yards. That's what the kind of guy he is. Because he's 6'2", he's 240, and he's a—think about the anger and the explosion. Oh, my God. And he's an athlete, too. And football, that's the fucking sport he should be playing because you can get everything out there.

Starting point is 00:29:46 So, yeah, after the Hillsborough team, the Terriers, they made the state regional football semifinals in his junior year and the quarterfinals in his senior year. Unbelievable. So even the team did well. He was named best athlete in Florida. What? By the newspaper. And the USA Today, the major newspaper, they do all the sporting things, called him, quote, the best two-way athlete in the country. In the country.

Starting point is 00:30:07 In the country. So, yeah. And the best athlete in any. Two-way, three-way, four-way, all the way to five. Best two, yeah. He's the best one in Florida. Two-way, not two-a. Oh, I thought you said two-way.

Starting point is 00:30:18 Two-way, like two-sport. Okay. Like Bo Jackson or Dion or somebody like that. But, yeah, he also was wearing out, obviously. Best two-way in the country. In the country. Best two-way athlete in the country. I've never been that.

Starting point is 00:30:31 No. Anything. Shit, no. Fuck athlete. Athlete. Yeah, that's amazing. He would always come to his brother Tyrone's basketball games. His sister Mary had a pituitary tumor, which was very scary.

Starting point is 00:30:44 She was in the hospital for a long time. They said Elijah was by her side. If he wasn't in school or playing baseball, he was at the hospital with his sister. I like this kid. You like this kid for a while. Not just for the athletic and the giving a shit about his family. I like that he's angry, too, because I was angry as fuck. So was I.

Starting point is 00:31:00 I was a dick when I was a kid. I was the worst. So Tyrone said, quote, since my dad's been gone, he told me he's my daddy. If I need something, he tells me to call him because he's my daddy. God damn it, Elijah, I like you. They had in the 2001 World Showcase, it's for baseball, and I guess it's some sort of big tryout thing. The scouting report on him said, quote, Duke's had to leave after the workout portion. He is every bit a man among boys.

Starting point is 00:31:26 He's a plus runner who we have seen sparkle in the outfield. Perhaps the biggest problem is whether or not he has center field speed or if he projects strictly as a left fielder. He does not project at all as a right fielder due to an average arm at best. He threw poorly in Fort Myers because he had not touched a baseball for a while. He showed us a playable center field arm earlier in the year. He did not disappoint in batting practice where he showed a fast bat and hit several rockets. He projects a hit with plus power.

Starting point is 00:31:51 Dukes is also a top football prospect. It will be interesting to see what happens in June for this outstanding big athlete. So they love him, even in baseball. February 1, 2002, he makes an official recruiting visit to North Carolina State University. Really? Yeah, he's visit to North Carolina State University. Yeah, he's going to North Carolina State. It's for everyone to kiss his ass and for them to throw co-eds at him and kegs of beer. He's going to be excited. February 6th, 2002, he signs a national letter of intent with North Carolina State University

Starting point is 00:32:19 and their coach, Chuck D'Amato. So he says he's going to go there, signs a letter of intent. But on June 4th, 2002, is the 2002 Major League Baseball draft. Elijah's 17 years old, by the way. He hasn't even turned 18 yet when this is going on. Already having a much better life than I ever had, even with the horrible shit going on. Yeah, he signed a letter of intent. This is amazing.

Starting point is 00:32:39 And now the baseball draft's coming up. This draft had like B.J. Upton in it and Zach Granke. Prince Fielder was in this draft. This is a draft that if you read or listen to Moneyball, not the movie with Brad Pitt, the book, the actual really good book, this is the draft they're talking about is this draft. And that whole thing, the whole big thing when they're setting up a draft and they're saying they don't want Fielder because he's fat and they don't want this one. This is what they're talking about here. Khalil Green, guys, Scott Casimir, Nick Swisher, they talk about a lot in the book there. Swisher's great. He is great.

Starting point is 00:33:09 Matt Cain, Jeremy Guthrie, a lot of guys there. Joey Votto, Curtis Granderson, John Lester, a lot of big, famous baseball players. In the third round, pick number two, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays at the time, they pick Elijah. Okay. So now he's been picked. Yep. He's got a letter of intent to go to a major university. And he's already drafted into the major league.

Starting point is 00:33:30 And he's drafted by a major league team. So he's got choices to make. That's 17 years old. 17. Those are some professional fucking choices he's got to make. That's what I'm saying. He finally turns 18. He enrolls at NC State on June 30th, 2002.

Starting point is 00:33:42 He signs up. July 8th, 2002, he formally commits to NC State on June 30th, 2002. He signs up. July 8th, 2002, he formally commits to NC State. And then on August 21st, 2002, he says, fuck that shit. I'm signing with baseball. I need money. He said, I need money. That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is because and it's so funny. I think that

Starting point is 00:33:57 NC State shit was just to drive the price up. Like, well, I don't know. I might play football and throw an extra hundred grand at the kid, see if he'll come in. I really think that's what it was. I hate it. Because that's the only reason why he would have been drafted in the third round instead of the first round,

Starting point is 00:34:11 or second round, is because they didn't know whether he'd play football or not, because that's a big deal. Like, if we draft him and he doesn't play, it's like John Elway. The Yankees drafted John Elway, and they never got John Elway. Well, they did for like a summer league thing.

Starting point is 00:34:22 Right. He went and played ball just for a little bit, just to get the NFL more enticed. That's all it was, was to do that. So just to say, hey, look, I can hit. I don't give a shit about going there. I don't want to play there. I want to go play somewhere else. I want to be a Yankee, John Elway would say.

Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah. So he signs a contract with the Rays. He receives a $505,000 bonus. Wow. That'll turn the lights on. You betcha. And that's what he saw. And that should keep him on forever.

Starting point is 00:34:45 Think about that. He's got younger brothers, younger sisters, and a mother that's struggling with all this. He thinks, I'm going to go to school for four years. Yeah. My head is hurting right now because I'm terrified. Isn't it terrible? You already know. You already know what's going to happen.

Starting point is 00:34:57 There's so many mouths to feed. Well, he's thinking, I'm going to go to school for four years and leave them all down there to struggle for themselves. I'm not there to protect anybody. I'm not there to do anything. Tampa drafted me. That's my hometown team. I can make the money right now.

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Starting point is 00:36:36 New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her. A-long. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy.

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Starting point is 00:37:24 he's suspended at least once every year. Let's just say that right before we even get into it. So I don't have to say he's suspended, he's suspended, he's suspended. At least once every year. Every year, at least once. And a couple times for like half a season. They're just like, go home. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:36 And we'll deal with you next year. Get the fuck out of here. His brother, Tyrone, who I fucking love, by the way. All I've ever read about this guy, just a stand-up, just a really smart, good, studious guy. The guy who probably should have fucking guided him through his career? Yeah, except he's his younger brother. Right, so he won't listen to him. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:37:53 He went to play basketball at Albany State in Georgia. Nice. So he ends up getting a college education, too, which is awesome for him. So now we start with some legal difficulties here, and there's a lot of them and a lot of them are minor but i i found everything so we're gonna go over it because i patreon.com slash crime and sports because this is a motherfucker i this was not easy to find either i'm already like i i i under this is this is the problem it's that greed will fucking ruin you and it'll change

Starting point is 00:38:24 everything greed though no no it is greed because he should have gone to college and This is the problem. It's that greed will fucking ruin you and it'll change everything. This isn't greed, though. No, no. It is greed because he should have gone to college and fucking had some forethought to have a fucking life. I think it's the opposite, though. You think so? I think it's the opposite. I think greedy would have been to go to college for him. You think so?

Starting point is 00:38:36 I think in his mind, not in reality. In his mind, he thinks if I go to college, that's so selfish. My family's going to sit there with the fucking lights off while I get pampered in college. Yeah, but to me, selfish and greedy are two different things. If I make this money, I can go give that to my family right now. Like right now, my mother, they can move out of the fucking ghetto. I can get my, you know, they can move into a decent house. My little brother can do better.

Starting point is 00:39:00 You know, my sister's sick. She can have a better. They'll always eat. They'll always eat. The lights are on and my mother doesn't have to cry every night. I get that. I get that thought, man. I can't blame him for that.

Starting point is 00:39:09 I think that this decision is just terrible. Oh, it's terrible. For him. Oh, it's terrible. No, for him it's the worst thing that could happen to him. But for him it was a sacrifice, I think. But I also think it's terrible because going to college and having some forethought and getting an education to have a job later is one thing but also too it's showing your family that look i'm not going to just give you what you want all the time because that's a lot of mouths and they're gonna keep

Starting point is 00:39:34 coming back to him electricity yeah but you put electricity on then they're like yeah now i need a car no no no now i need fucking this now i need that it's a slippery slope from food to mink yes i don't think so i don't think so that's a t-shirt yeah it's a slippery slope from food to mink i don't wear that i see that though like i see when you have a family that has had nothing and now all of a sudden they can get a little bit from your mom had to sell crack because your dad's in prison and the lights aren't on and your little brother can't do his homework because he's got no fucking lights on. You sell more crack when you're wearing mink. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah, I get what he's doing, is what I'm saying. I don't like it. And you'll see later, he wanted to play football. I'm sure he did. This wasn't a decision he made for like, cool, I'm going to go get a gold chain tomorrow. This was, cool, I get the lights on in my house. That's just where it starts. That's what I'm saying. It's true. So January. This was cool. I get the lights on in my house. That's just where it starts. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:40:26 It's true. So January 9th, 2003. That's a slippery slope. January 9th, slippery slope from food to make. So it's January 9th, 2003. He's ticketed. He gets a ticket for having a loud sound making device. Okay, stereo.

Starting point is 00:40:39 It's a big stereo. He wouldn't put money in a car. Yeah, whatever. He's got a system in his car. Spent $300 on that. So he goes to the minors. He goes to the Charleston River Dogs in Charleston. And they're single A in 2003.

Starting point is 00:40:54 August 19, 2003, he gets a ticket for careless driving also. Jesus Christ. So, you know, this fucking guy should not have a car. No. Like, someone needs to get him a bus pass and take away, or like a driver. He needs a driver. That would be the one thing I would do if I was a team. I'd say, you need a driver.

Starting point is 00:41:11 I would hire a homeless guy to drive him around. Already. I mean, he's already gotten a ticket for a loud noise making device, probably a car, whether it's exhaust or the fucking, or the stereo. And the other one is reckless driving already. Careless driving. That's terrible. Whatever.

Starting point is 00:41:23 Stupid. It's a mess. But in baseball here at the Charleston Riverdogs here, he has 117 games, 383 at bats. He hits 245 with seven home runs, 53 RBI, and 33 steals. He's got stats. Not bad for an 18-year-old kid. Sure. I mean, that's not too shabby.

Starting point is 00:41:37 That's 33 steals for a guy who's 240. And 6'2", he can run. That's moving. That's great. That's a big, strong cat that can run, man. And he's a center fielder? He plays center and left, depending on where he is. So he's not a shortstop.

Starting point is 00:41:50 He's not your fucking... No, no, no. He's not a second baseman. No, he's a big son of a bitch. He's like a shorter Dave Winfield is the best way to describe the way he looks. Dave Winfield is like 6'6", so he's a big, lanky dude. Not lanky because he was thick. He was fucking thick as shit.

Starting point is 00:42:02 He was a shit brick shithouse. Is that the first? I almost called him a shit brickhouse shit brick house that's a totally different that's just a house that's not constructed very well that's all that is that's that's a gross dude with floppy mantids that's what that is yeah yeah yeah no that's shit brick shit you know he's like five you know four or five inches shorter dave Winfield would be the best way to describe him. Without the cannon of an arm that Winfield had. All-time class arm. September 21st, 2003, he gets a ticket for failing to observe a stop sign.

Starting point is 00:42:33 Oh, fuck. So that's not great. October 9th, 2003, he gets a ticket for defective equipment. What is that? What the fuck that is? Bad lights or some shit? That might have been like a taillight out or some shit like that. It's technically that. Or a flat tire and he just keeps running down the road.

Starting point is 00:42:47 Fuck it. System bumping. I didn't hear that flopping. I had no idea. I thought the road was just fucked up. Yeah, it's Florida. I mean, everything's fucked up. Come on.

Starting point is 00:42:56 It's Florida. I just figured it was some kind of deep bottomless pit of despair that I was driving into. A ditch of despair. So November 6th, 2003, he gets a ticket for careless driving again. So, you know, he's just... So far his problems revolve around being behind the wheel of a vehicle or just blasting people in the mouth. That's his problem.

Starting point is 00:43:18 Every month he's gotten a ticket for something else and he'll punch anyone who comes in his way here. Anybody. Anybody. for something else, and he'll punch anyone who comes in his way here. Anybody. So November 24th, 2003, he reports his car stolen to Tampa police, which I was like, good.

Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah. It was probably the cop that took it. I was going to say, it was probably the Rays organization probably hired a guy to steal it. Keep this guy off the fucking road already. Steal his car. He's not going to stop driving. We have to steal his car. That's it.

Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah. Steal his car. He's not going to stop driving. We have to steal his car. That's it. Yeah. So on November 25th, 2003, he and his girlfriend, now I don't know how to say this, N-I capital S-H-E-A. Neshea?

Starting point is 00:43:57 Neshea or Neshea? S-H-E-A? Yeah. That's just Neshea. Neshea. Am I being Neshea? Neshea. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:44:03 Neshea we're going to call her. We should call Key and Peele. They would know. somebody tell us how this shit's pronounced nishay gilbert uh she was a university of south florida student she's uh she goes on to be a teacher later on she's a pretty you know she's a college student that wants to be a teacher got it uh she meets this jerk off and uh they get together and on november 25th 2003 day after his car stolen they have a baby. Oh. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:26 He needed that car to get her to the hospital. Let's get him that car back so we can get the baby in the car with him. System bumping, driving carelessly. Yay. Equipment defective. Nope. This is great. Jesus.

Starting point is 00:44:38 So now he's got a kid. Okay. This isn't terrific at this point. Is he a son or a daughter? This is a daughter. This is a daughter. This is the daughter of the first kid here. So he's got a kid. He is not even 20 years old.

Starting point is 00:44:50 He's 19 years old. He signed a contract. He's a terrible driver. He's a terrible driver. He's got tickets coming out of his ass. There's a traffic school. So much traffic school. You can only go so many times, man.

Starting point is 00:45:02 Figure it out, Elijah. Now he's got a girlfriend and a baby. This shit is coming hard and fast and heavy, and he's breaking all the rules. He's living home. He's living in Tampa, first of all. He's at home. He hasn't found religion, thank God. But, I mean, he's driving poorly, which isn't a rule, but it seems to always happen with these guys.

Starting point is 00:45:21 That's like the first thing. If you've lost control of your life, you just drive like shit. You don't care anymore. That's what it seems like, doesn't it? It's because life is coming at you so fast, you got to bob and weave in traffic. That's a good point there. That's a really good point. Yeah. So it's a fucking mess now. Now he's having a baby when he's 19. Things are going bad. It's not adding up to a very nice cake. It's not. That was November.

Starting point is 00:45:44 That's a shit cake, big time. November 25th, that was. Now, December 8th, 2003, so this is really soon after that here, he is arrested and charged with misdemeanor assault. Uh-oh. This is ridiculous here. The baby's two weeks old. He's there with his girlfriend. It's 9 a.m. on a Monday morning.

Starting point is 00:46:02 Okay. And they start arguing. That's about the time it happens. That's usually when all the fights happen. 9 a.m. on a Monday morning, and they start arguing. That's about the time it happens. That's usually when all the fights happen. 9 a.m. on a Monday morning. So it wasn't like they were drinking on a Friday night. Things got out of control. He thought she fucking shook her ass at somebody, and he's a jealous asshole.

Starting point is 00:46:15 Whatever it is. This is just bitching about morning news together. Yeah. This is, can you believe this? They're holding the two-week-old baby here, and they get in a huge fight, and apparently he throws a remote control and a bottle at her. And they break on the wall behind her, and so she calls the police,

Starting point is 00:46:32 and they come and they arrest him. Because she's holding a two-week-old baby. What a fucking asshole. He can't stop the rage. Maybe he threw it in her vicinity, and aimed at the wall. Right, he's a baseball player. He could probably hit her if he wanted to hit her with it. Right. He's a baseball player.

Starting point is 00:46:46 He probably would have hit her with it. He could probably hit her wherever he wanted to hit her with something he's throwing. My friend that was a pitcher, literally, he could take darts. Yeah. He was playing darts. He could just hit five. Right in the center. Ten times in a row. Every time, yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:56 But it was nothing. Hand-eye coordination is crazy. Yeah. That'd be my fucking defense to the cop. Dude, I play for the race. Either way, you can't buzz a woman with a two-week-old kid with a fucking soda bottle or remote control and a glass by her head. That's not okay.

Starting point is 00:47:11 You got a point. You're trying to demonstrate fear. You're really trying to defend. I really, because I like him. You want to like him. I want him to do well. I want to see where it rolls back. This is the high watermark and where it rolls. I want to see where it rolls back. This is the high watermark and where it rolls.

Starting point is 00:47:25 I want to see where it rolls back for you. As soon as you said you can't buzz, I'm going, yeah, Jimmy, you dickhead. Shut up. You can't do that. You can't inflict terror on your girlfriend with a two-week-old child in her arms. That's not okay. They're so fragile at that age. That's so bad.

Starting point is 00:47:39 So Christmas Day. Yeah. Merry Christmas. He's pulled over on suspicion of careless driving. Christmas Day. Yeah. Merry Christmas. He's pulled over on suspicion of careless driving.

Starting point is 00:47:51 When the Tampa police officer approaches him, he does not say Merry Christmas, officer. Where are you on this fine holiday? It stinks that you have to work and you can't be with his family. He begins to scream obscene names at her and shout and yell and call her every name he can. It's a woman cop? It's a woman cop. Oh, Christ. He calls her everything he can think of. She yanks his ass out of the car

Starting point is 00:48:07 after he tries to roll his window up to get away from her. To get away from her. Oh, the disrespect. Yeah, he was just like, fuck you, roll the window up, you know. And she said, oh, no. And think about this poor lady.

Starting point is 00:48:19 She has to work on Christmas, first of all. She's pissed about that. And she's like, I got to deal with this fucking asshole now, too. Not just I have to work on Christmas. There's turkey at my house. I have to work on Christmas offering tickets that are gonna cost these people fucking money on Christmas Day. Yeah, this sucks for everybody.

Starting point is 00:48:33 And now I gotta deal with this jackass. I gotta yank some giant muscled up dude out of his goddamn car. That clearly has no fucking utter disregard for the safety of women. He'll fucking huckle a bottle at you. He'll wing something at you. Luckily, he had no remote controls or anything in there. And two things he likes to do, he likes to throw bottles and choke.

Starting point is 00:48:52 Okay. Well, you're going to see that so often. Really? He's got a pattern of behavior. He likes to choke people and throw shit at them. Well, at least he meanders from like at the start. At the start, he's just swinging. It's a pattern.

Starting point is 00:49:02 At the start, he might have been choking, too. He might have been choking, yeah. We don't know. He was a kid. It's a pattern. At the start, he might have been choking, too. He might have been choking, yeah. We don't know. He was a kid. It's a pattern, if nothing else. So the police officer yanks him out of the car, and he's charged with obstructing an officer without violence, because then he gave up here. He ends up entering a misdemeanor intervention program plea, and the charges are eventually

Starting point is 00:49:18 dropped. Okay. Eventually, too, around this time, the remote control throwing charges are dropped also. Okay. So there's that. So he's free and clear besides all his insane traffic shit here. Even when he's not doing something he's always in contact with, this dude should

Starting point is 00:49:31 have just joined the police force. They just should get him a uniform because he's with them so much. He's always hanging out. They're always pulling him over. He's calling them. They're being called on him. It's crazy. January 18, 2004 he calls the police in Tampa to report a burglary at his home. Oh, boy.

Starting point is 00:49:48 Somebody broke into his shit and stole it. So now his car's been stolen and now his house has been broken into over the course of a month. So January 30th, 2004, Elijah calls Hillsborough Sheriff's Department after a fight with Gilbert. Again, the girlfriend, Nishe Gilbert here, accusing her of, Jesus Christ. I love when the charge cracks you up. This is like a wrestling angle. This is like Rick Martel had the thing in the 90s when he was the model where he would spray perfume in your face.

Starting point is 00:50:21 It was like out of a bug spray thing. Like a poison tube? Yeah, and Jake the Snake Roberts had his eye all gray and they had a WrestleMania match with blindfolds on. I remember that. I think it was WrestleMania 6. Anyway, so she sprays him with an unknown substance from an aerosol container. So he's yelling.

Starting point is 00:50:38 They're arguing. She just sprays his fucking eyes. With some of that big sexy hair spray. She hits him with the Aquanet, like right in the grill piece, right? So, yeah. So he's like, oh shit. So they fight continually after that and he calls

Starting point is 00:50:53 the cops. They get there. The body slams her on a folding chair. Yeah, give her a sip. Well, then she popped off the sunset flip though and got the one, two, three. So it was, you know, it was okay. So good. So, yeah. sunset flip though and got the one two three so it was you know it was okay so good so uh yeah so uh he gets the cops there yeah and he says he just wanted to he just wants to document the incident so it's on file but he doesn't want to press charges yeah yeah you know just so everybody knows in case she hits me with a baby that's like two months old i'm not taking care of this

Starting point is 00:51:21 motherfucker so you're not arresting her someone's gonna change that's exactly what months old. I'm not taking care of this motherfucker, so you're not arresting her. Someone's got to change this shitty title. That's exactly what it is. I just wanted to let you know that if we get in a fight, it's not all me. That motherfucker wakes up in the middle of the night and has to eat. I'm not doing that shit. That ain't my problem.

Starting point is 00:51:35 She's got the titties. One of us has the titties in an evening. Right. So March 16th, 2004, Nishay Gilbert files for child support against him for the son. The judge orders that he start paying $222.26 per month. That's a deal. That's not a lot at all.

Starting point is 00:51:58 That's nothing. That's fucking incredible. That's cheaper than a car payment. That's not even diapers. That's the electric bill. That's cheaper than a car payment. That's not even like diapers. That's the electric bill. That's amazing. But he's already also $23,337 in arrears also. How the hell is that possible? How the fuck that accumulated in three months?

Starting point is 00:52:13 That kid's like four months. How is $222 a month over like six months add up to $23,000? I have no idea. That's some interest. Compounded interest is a motherfucker on $600. And they say that is factored into the monthly payments so it was like less than 222 a month and then and now it's all of a sudden i don't know i don't know how that shit works and oh yeah did we forget he also plays fucking baseball remember that right you forgot didn't you we're

Starting point is 00:52:39 off on all this great you forgot he was still my christ he's in his second year career criminal already yeah he fucking so 43 games in charleston that year and 58 uh with the bakersfield blaze of the high single a uh he totals there i'm not going to go into both whatever so the totals for both those teams 101 games 374 at bats 313 average 10 hom 49 ribbies, and 30 stolen bases. Wow. So that's showing power, speed, and that's pretty consistent, too. 313, not too shabby. But he wasn't distracted too much by the baseball season. Don't get me wrong here.

Starting point is 00:53:14 He had other shit going on. On April 26th, Nishe Gilbert calls Hillsborough deputies and says that Elijah is harassing her and making threatening phone calls at her. No arrest is made, which is fine. April 28th, two days later, Gilbert files for a protective order, domestic violence injunction against Elijah, and she's accusing him of making threatening phone calls, calling members of her family and threatening them. And the judge denies this order, saying that she wasn't specific enough in her paperwork about the number of telephone calls. And since, well, for a protective order,

Starting point is 00:53:53 when there's a child involved that's his, they have to make sure, I guess, that some of those phone calls aren't just for the kid. Basically, they're saying he has a right to talk to the kid, so it has to be very egregious for me to say that he you know sure has to be a lot of threatening phone calls which i think threat you threaten a phone call that's enough right there you i probably don't want you around the kid if you're threatening people over the phone anyway at minimum i get it yeah now on the field he has a temper too this isn't just like on the field he's cool and off the field he's a nut right this is everywhere uh a catcher later on a guy named sean riggins uh said while they were in the minors he said uh he said he just saw his temper flare over and over uh but he said he

Starting point is 00:54:30 didn't blame dukes actually he said uh you and i would not do well talking about his childhood he said quote you and i would not do well there nobody knows what it was like for him uh if he can focus himself on the field there aren't other many other players like him so he's saying he had a hard time as a child and you know you know, I get it, whatever. And he's still a kid at this point, too. So you figure out maybe some of this shit will wear off. You know what I mean? Who knows?

Starting point is 00:54:53 Now, another guy, a former Pirate who played with him in the minors, said, quote, he'll snap in a minute. A new team or a new stadium won't change that. He's like, no matter where he is, he's crazy. He's a problem. He's a problem. He's a problem. Another guy named Ryan Knox in 2004. He was another player for the Rays in their farm system.

Starting point is 00:55:12 He really got a close-up look at this shit here. In 2004, he was his roommate. He was Elijah's roommate, this Knox guy. This was his third roommate in three months, Elijah, because he's tough to deal with. Apparently, they got along fine at first. Everything was cool. He said he considered Dukes a friend. One night out of nowhere, Dukes suddenly, the guy said he doesn't even know what happened,

Starting point is 00:55:35 why he got upset. Right. But he said he got really kind of cold and mean. And things got so bad in a minute here that there was a maid in the hallway that went and hid for her life and even other teammates like ran away from that much of a fight that much of a they were scared of him and didn't want to be involved in it Knox still stayed around and uh what ended up happening is uh Dukes chokes him okay he chokes him he chokes him around his neck and he said Knox I'm done with you. That's all he would say, apparently. Knox, I'm done with you while he's choking him, which doesn't sound frightening.

Starting point is 00:56:09 That sounds like you're threatening to kill a man. Yeah. Knox said, quote, with him, it was kill or be killed. That's how he was. And the pitching coach ended up having to come in and break it up. So at least he didn't suck as pitching coach. None of the other teammates, they were scared of him. They wouldn't come near it.

Starting point is 00:56:22 They were scared of him. September 15, 2004, an ex, next girlfriend of his named Carla Bryant has a judge issue a paternity test to see if Dukes is her son's father. Uh-oh. He's been arrested. He's violent. He's volatile. Of course it's his-

Starting point is 00:56:38 The baby or him? Of course it's his kid. Yeah. Oh, by the way, you know when this kid was born? Yeah. Eight days after his first kid. No. Eight days after his first kid was born. Oh, by the way, you know when this kid was born? Eight days after his first kid. No! Eight days after his first kid

Starting point is 00:56:47 was born. Oh, what an asshole. Eight days. What a cocksucker. So, yeah. This thing's... Elijah's not my favorite anymore. No, no, no. He's really... I mean... He's fucking up a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He would be, but he's... That's what I mean. He's really flying down on that toboggan, man. It's such a fucking

Starting point is 00:57:03 meandering run. Chevy Chase and Chris's vacation is flying down that hill right now. There's some sparks flying. There's a flame behind him. Yeah. So by the end of the season, he hadn't been arrested since April, at least. That's a good sign. Yes. Right?

Starting point is 00:57:15 That's not bad. Also named by Baseball America, which is the scouting site there, as the No. 8 prospect in the Devil Rays' entire system. Wow. Which is good. He's the No. 8 best player. There's only fucking nine positions, so if he's No. 8 of those the Devil Rays' entire system. Wow. Which is good. He's the No. 8 best player. There's only fucking nine positions, so if he's No. 8 of those, I know what you mean. But, I mean, that's not bad.

Starting point is 00:57:32 There's a hundred guys in there, and he's No. 8. There may be three of those eight that are outfielders. Well, back then, they had Rocco Baldelli, Carl Crawford. They had Evan Longori. They had a stacked minor league system. All these guys who became stars later on in the decade. They were all down there together. B.J. Upton.

Starting point is 00:57:49 That's incredible. The Upton brothers, both of them. So, I mean, think about that. Is the other one Chad? Was it Chad? No. No. What's his name?

Starting point is 00:57:56 There's no black guy's name Chad. No. Isn't there? The Uptons? Yeah. They're not. No. What's the other one?

Starting point is 00:58:01 It's Melvin, I think. Isn't it Melvin? I wouldn't fucking have a clue. It's BJ and Melvin. No, BJ now goes by Melvin. Is there a Chad Upton? What am I thinking? There is not a Chad Upton.

Starting point is 00:58:12 Who's the one that played for the Diamondbacks? I don't know. That was BJ, I think. Melvin. That was Melvin. I don't fucking know which Upton is which anymore. Justin. There's Justin Upton.

Starting point is 00:58:21 Justin. That's the name I was thinking of, yes. BJ is Melvin. They're the same guy. Okay. He changed his real name as Melvin. He changed it to Melvin. Good call. That's the name I was thinking of, yes. BJ is Melvin. They're the same guy. He changed his real name as Melvin. Good call. That's a good one to go from, too. He's the number eight prospect. But I think Chad.

Starting point is 00:58:34 Justin's just as white of a name as Chad. No, it's not. Nothing is as white of a name as Chad. Nothing. There's no name as white as Chad. Maybe Heath. But outside of that, no. Not Chad. That's never been... Justin's a stupid name. Justin's a very stupid name.

Starting point is 00:58:49 But it's stupid, but less... It's like Florida White Trash, but it's not which, you know, that fits too. It's Tampa, but it's not Chad. Chad has a stink to it that really is something different. How many other black guys are their name Justin? There can't be a lot. Not a lot, but there's less than their name Chad. I'm going to it that really is something different how many other black guys are their name justin

Starting point is 00:59:05 there can't be a lot not a lot but there's less than our name chad i'm gonna say so end of the season you meant more than named chad but i get what you're saying yes, you know what I meant. I don't know what I said there. It's funny because I was just trying to picture a black guy named Chad, and I want to meet one. Shit, I've never met one. So, end of the season, he hasn't been arrested since April, and he's the number eight prospect in their system. He's good now? Yes.

Starting point is 00:59:42 Right? Should be. He's good now? system okay he's good now yes right should be good now uh october 12th 2004 uh gilbert calls the police and says that duke's threw a can of soda and a candy jar at her what's with the food he and drinks whatever's in his hand everything he's holding was he at a fourth grader's birthday party what was he doing it's just like a slice of like cheap pizza that came afterwards. What the fuck is he doing? A slice of those $5 already ready pizzas and he just fucking

Starting point is 01:00:09 evened it out the window. You know that's what happened. He threw a can of soda, a candy jar, a slice of pizza and one of those flat sheet cakes with a terrible white icing on it. It's so weird. No arrest is made here for some reason. Can you assault somebody with a candy wrapper?

Starting point is 01:00:26 I think there was a goddamn soda can and a candy jar, not a wrapper. He threw a fucking jar at her. I mean, that's assault. That's assault, I would say. If he hit her, it could have been way worse than a can of fucking soda hits you. That'll hurt you. If it's full, fuck, dude. That'll sting.

Starting point is 01:00:41 That'll break a bone. October 25th, 2004, two weeks later, Gilbert files for an order of protection again. October 28th, 2004, the judge grants the protective order, bars Dukes from contacting her for one year. What? So now he's barred from contacting her for an entire year. See, this is shitty. Now, that was October 28th.

Starting point is 01:01:02 October 31st, 2004, a judge grants an order of protection against Elijah from Carla Bryant. Oh, no. With the second kid. Both women. No contact for one year. What a busy week. So many people, just so many women to be legally protected against, or from, actually. I have so many women that need legal protection from me.

Starting point is 01:01:23 I have no time this week. Just no time. I got to go scare the shit out of more women so I'm not allowed near them. But it's not just that he's getting legally protected, that they're legally protecting themselves against him. Yeah. They've got kids with him. Yes. And that means that child can't see their father for at least a year.

Starting point is 01:01:41 Or if it has to be through relatives or it has to be some other arrangement through the courts. They can't just go, hey, can I pick the kid up Friday at 8? Okay, goodbye. That can't happen. Which, you know, at least he's taken his problems off of the road and into his home, I guess, although there's victimless crimes on the road and here he's scaring the shit out of women.

Starting point is 01:01:59 But at least he's taking it out of the public, you know, whatever, section and sector. But, you know, January 10th, 2005, he's cited for driving without a tag and on a suspended license. What a dipshit. Yeah, he's getting warm for the new year. That's what he's doing. It's January 10th. He's getting his groove on.

Starting point is 01:02:19 Just sticking with that old New Year's resolution to keep getting tickets. Yeah, just going to keep doing it, man. January 18th, 2005. Elijah, Jesus. Again, this is the other one that really cracked me up. Not cracked me up. This is so, this is such the tip of the iceberg, too. He quarrels

Starting point is 01:02:38 as they put it in the newspaper here. He gets in a fight with his sister, Katrina. Okay? It's that she talked about earlier that whatever we talked to her saying, she said said he said he was going to be an athlete. What happened is Katrina tells the police that he grabbed her by the throat and began punching her in the left arm. More choking. More choking.

Starting point is 01:02:56 Choking and punching or throwing. These are the two things he does. This is his thing. He's charged with battery for this, and he doesn't contest the charge. He's sentenced to one year of probation for this. So actually a charge was brought against him, and something happened. But they keep giving him a year. A year here, a year there.

Starting point is 01:03:12 His license is suspended for a year. He's got all sorts of shit. One year adds up when it's extra charges that are for other things. Eventually you just can't be around anybody and can't drive. Yeah, and that was January 18th. He just needs to be in his house. He needs to be quarantined. He's a dipshit.

Starting point is 01:03:28 He needs to be quarantined. That was the 18th. January 24th, 2005. Six fucking days later. His ex-girlfriend, Zanquisha Jefferson. Her name is Zanquisha. That's a name.

Starting point is 01:03:39 There's no white girls named Zanquisha. There's as many white girls named Zanquisha as there are black guys named Chad. Zanquisha. The black There's as many white girls named Zanquisha as there are black guys named Chad. Zanquisha. The black Chad.

Starting point is 01:03:49 That's who that is. Chad, the white Zanquisha. The white Zanquisha. So she files a request for prosecution. I guess files charges with the Tampa police saying that Dukes came to her home and guess what? Choked her. Of course he did.

Starting point is 01:04:06 Choked her, forced her into a chair, squeezed her cheeks, and demanded that she kiss him, she says. That's interesting. No files end up getting charged. No charges end up getting filed. I don't know. If someone comes into your home and chokes you and forcibly kisses you, there's a charge that should be pending at some point there. This is insane. February 13th, 2005, he calls Tampa police because his home was victim to some criminal mischief.

Starting point is 01:04:31 Some people did some shit to his house. Who knows what. I don't know. They wrote bad driver on his garage door or something. I'm not sure. Shit driver. Stop choking people. Throw baseballs, not soda cans.

Starting point is 01:04:42 There's a lot of slogans they could put on there, really. throw baseballs, not soda cans. There's a lot of slogans they could put on there, really. March 10th, 2005, a woman named Chantel Mitchell has a DNA test on Dukes for a baby born June 7th, 2004. Fuck. Of course he's the father.

Starting point is 01:04:56 Oh my God. It's a boy, and the baby's name is... No! Elijah Jr., which is actually the third, but she just calls him Elijah Jr. She has no idea that he's a junior. Nope, doesn't give a fuck either. He's Elijah Jr., which is actually the third, but she just calls him Elijah Jr. She has no idea that he's a junior. Nope, doesn't give a fuck either.

Starting point is 01:05:08 He's Elijah Jr. Jr. So now we have a guy who named his son Junior, shot a guy, then the guy who is a junior is fucking up everywhere. Now he's going to have a junior. I pray for this child's soul because he is going to be chopping up Boy Scouts any time now. They're going to find, I swear to God, they are. They're going to find Girl Scout parts under his house. It's awful. So, yeah.

Starting point is 01:05:33 So now he's got another kid. This is getting messy. How messy is this getting? It's ridiculous. This is getting ridiculous. It went so fast for me rooting for him. Yeah, I said it's not going to be long. He gets charges the way boxers have fights.

Starting point is 01:05:50 That's right. Yeah, this is like I'm reading off, yeah. Six days later. It's ridiculous. 2006, he's in Vegas at the Mirage, punching the shit out of this guy. Fights two weeks later. Can you believe that? Well, that was March 10th, 2005.

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Starting point is 01:08:54 May 5th, 2005, his license is suspended again for failure to appear again. They lump that in and they'll say it'll be reinstated in September. June 1st, 2005, his license is suspended again for failing to appear on yet another ticket. Again, lumped in. It'll be reinstated in September. Why does he still have it? Why is that even a thing? Revoke it. You can't drive anymore, sir.

Starting point is 01:09:17 You can't do it, man. Sorry. It's not for you. Taxis are your new way of getting around. All you need to do is figure out how to not fuck so much and make children. Just stop. I don't care how much you fuck. Just stop making children.

Starting point is 01:09:29 Stop making kids. Stop it. You drive as well as you pull out, sir. And let's find out proof of that. June 16th, 2005, Nishe gives birth to another baby. Oh, my God. Another one. Another one.

Starting point is 01:09:42 Wait, no. Yeah. Hold on. Yeah, she had an order of protection against him yeah no you nailed it how did we get right how did they get around i was looking at you going are you gonna say yeah why are they around each other because pregnant obviously they're not gonna stay away from each other they're both addicted to fucking with each other and who knows she keeps she's like a normal person she's a teacher she's have she, well, he wants to change and I want to give him a chance

Starting point is 01:10:07 because he's the father of my children and blah, blah, blah, which is reasonable. And then he comes in and fucking throw something at her and chokes her and he's back out again. But before he does that, he doesn't pregnant her as they take her away to jail. Sure. Make sure to, you know, drop one in her to make sure to have those biscuits up there because we got to have babies. Those are so necessary. Bet you. So she adds that kid right on to the top to have another kid. Throw those biscuits up there, because we've got to have babies. Those are so necessary. You bet your ass. So she adds that kid right on to the top of the child support claim.

Starting point is 01:10:28 You betcha. So that's another pile on there. And you know, that's kind of smart of her. Yeah, it has to. What the hell? If you want kids, at least do it with somebody that's going to be paying for it. Yeah, no shit. On June 22nd, 2007, he goes on that terrible Rome is Burning show.

Starting point is 01:10:42 Do you remember that show? Oh, yeah. With Jim Rome. Now, Jim Rome annoys the fuck out of me. He does. He's not a Skip Bayless to me, though. I don't have a, because Jim Rome, I actually. Jim Rome actually has good opinions.

Starting point is 01:10:50 Well, no, it's not even that. I just admire the fact that he's, where he started. Right. And he built a fucking, he built an audience. Yeah. Like, he didn't just. And tons of cash, too. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:59 He didn't just build, like, a little, you know, oh, ESPN gave me a job and I go on here and argue with black people for some reason. Or for some reason or Fox Sports gave me a job. He should be on Fox News. Or call a guy a fucking girl's name. Yeah, shit like that. He embraces it. No, not like that. Like Jim Rome, as much as like he's not my thing, like he's OK.

Starting point is 01:11:19 The fact that he built this like audience of like this thing. And I'm kind of impressed with that from two guys who make a podcast like this that we're trying to build a movement here and he kind of has that sort of thing but he's just got some some stupid shit he's got his listeners are stupid he's got like he's got you said it his listeners are he's got a real rogan thing going on where it's like i like the show but god some of these listeners are fucking brain damaged man it's like it's the same thing with Rome. People call in and they have like 12 catchphrases they say first. And he's like, all right, get to your shit already.

Starting point is 01:11:51 Yes, I get it. He's got to be annoyed. Give me your take. Why did I fucking build this? These people suck. But he gets paid. But that was a terrible show on television. The Rome is Burning show was terrible.

Starting point is 01:12:01 Of course. He goes on here to try to explain himself. Did he take calls on Rome is Burning? I think he did. Yeah was terrible. Of course. He goes on here to try to explain himself to Dukes. Did he take calls on Roman's burning? I think he did, yeah. That's the problem. He's had 12 incarnations of TV shows, so I have no idea if that's the one. The only one I love is when he had the one back in the day in like 1990 when Jim Everett threw the table over on him and tipped him over in his chair because he kept calling

Starting point is 01:12:19 him Chris. Call him Chris Everett. Which was great. That was fantastic. Who was the fuck? That's a female tennis player, right? That's who she is. That was a female tennis player, not a quarterback for the Los Angeles Rams.

Starting point is 01:12:26 So August... Call me Chris Everett again and I'll punch you in the face. Yeah, he goes, go ahead, call me. He goes, all right. And I look on here, that's where Chris... And then you just see just tables fly up, Jim Rohn fly backwards.

Starting point is 01:12:37 Jesus Christ. Didn't he sue him for that too? Or was that just like a bid? I think he might have. And then he like... No, it wasn't a bid at all. It wasn't a bid. Chris Jim Everett stood over him

Starting point is 01:12:44 like, you getting up, motherfucker? Because Jim Everett, you can call him what you want. He was a shit quarterback. But he's like 6'5", 230 pounds. He'll pummel you. And he's a professional football player. He's strong.

Starting point is 01:12:55 His hands are enormous. He can throw a huge football. 40 yards. The slowest white guy on the football field is still a fucking athletic white guy. Yes, especially compared to Jim Rome sitting behind his desk.

Starting point is 01:13:06 So anyway, August 4th, 2005, after he's explained everything to the national media, everything's fine. He's ticketed for driving without a license again. Stop driving. Someone give him a fucking ride. Get him a ride. Somebody. August 8th, 2005, Dukes is ordered to pay Chantel Mitchell $881.73 per month in child support until. The payments are getting steep.

Starting point is 01:13:30 Well, that's until he has $10,871 in retroactive payment. Once he pays that off, the payment will drop to $734.78 per month. That's still pretty steep. Dude, this was so hard to find all this shit, man, as you can imagine. That's so much. And oh, yeah. Yeah? I forgot.

Starting point is 01:13:48 He plays fucking baseball. Remember that? He's not just like a serial woman fucker and baby maker and shitty driver. Still playing baseball. This guy plays baseball. Get out of here. This year, I placed for the Montgomery Biscuits of AA. 120 games, 446 at-bats.

Starting point is 01:14:05 He hits.287 with 18 home runs, 73 RBI, and 19 steals. Jesus. Great year. Yeah. More into power. Playing for the Biscuits. He's playing for the Biscuits. That's hilarious.

Starting point is 01:14:15 It is. It is. That's hilarious because that's what it's called when you leave the jizz up there. There it is. There you go. Throwing Biscuits. Baseball America names him the number five prospect in the system. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:25 And in the years 2004, 5, and 6, he's rated by them as the best athlete in their entire system. Jesus. So that's the type of guy he is here. An article on him, and this is minorleagueball.com, in 2005, October 6th, that says, quote, Dukes has a reputation for making a good effort on the field. He plays hard and hustles most of the time, but the root of his problem comes from what the press refers to cryptically as a, quote, problem with authority and anger management issues.

Starting point is 01:14:55 He argues with umpires at the drop of the hat. He gets ejected frequently. He isn't considered to be especially a supportive teammate. So he's just a dick, is what they're saying. He's yelling at umpires. He's not going to be a a supportive teammate yeah so he's just a dick no is what they're saying he's yelling at umpires he's not gonna be yeah he's not gonna be a good teammate no uh november 7 2005 he gets a ticket for failing to observe a traffic light how careful would you be driving if you were this guy 10 and 2 careful speed limit directionals and every slow lane all day slowly i would not be fucking doing anything to draw any attention to myself on the road uh december 28th 2005 his license is suspended again fuck this time

Starting point is 01:15:32 for failing to pay child support uh it'll be reinstated in august of 2006 if he makes his payments what a busy year yeah holy shit now maybe he'll we think he's gonna follow some rules probably yes he's already home. He's having kids. Well, let's get another one in there because things are going so great for him. Another kid? No, no, no. Don't worry. There will be more kids.

Starting point is 01:15:52 No. But this is not a different thing. February 27, 2006, Dukes and Ne'Shea Gilbert. What am I going to say? Get in a fight? Kill each other? Get arrested together? They get fucking married.

Starting point is 01:16:02 No. Of course they do because things are going so well you need to get me he's breaking every rule he's in tampa marrying the terrible don't do it he's marrying a woman that's got a fucking protective order against him this is all the time stop she shouldn't wow uh so that was why is she doing this febru 27, 2006. May 1, 2006. She files for divorce. That was short-lived. Claiming Dukes married her to avoid child support payments.

Starting point is 01:16:34 She also says he's abusive. She says, quote, we went to the courthouse in Brandon and got married and things have gone downhill ever since. My life has been turned upside down since I've been dealing with him. She says that's so... My life turned upside down since I've been dealing with him. I've been dealing with him. She says that's so... My lap turned upside down since I've been dealing with him. I've been dealing with him. May 11, 2006, license is suspended for failing to pay traffic fines.

Starting point is 01:16:53 June 5, 2006, Gilbert dismisses her divorce petition. What? How do you dismiss... Never mind. Change of mind. I'm going to keep him. So he's got so much shit going on. He was slated to return from a five-game suspension. But then they just said, you know what? We're going to have a big investigation of all this type of shit.

Starting point is 01:17:12 They just suspend him. The league, the International League, suspends him indefinitely for the rest of the year. What? Well, he was suspended once, and then he again had another problem arguing balls and strikes with umpires. So they're suspending him for the rest of the year because he can't stop arguing with umpires uh but he stays busy jimmy don't worry august 4th 2006 he stopped by tampa police for driving on a suspended license god damn it that is the day it's supposed to be reinstated by the way he's got it right there so he's going i don't know am i in trouble or not i think I got a license today. I was driving yesterday, so it really doesn't matter.

Starting point is 01:17:47 August 24th, 2006. Sheriff's deputies arrest Gilbert. They arrest Nishay after police are called to an argument between the two of them. Apparently, she scratched his back and arms during a confrontation and fight they got in, so they arrest her. They are fucking terrible together. They're awful. He later drops the charges. Of course he does. Again, someone's changing these shitty diapers in an A&B.

Starting point is 01:18:08 Oh, yeah. He plays fucking baseball. Forgot about that, too. Durham Bulls that year and AAA that year. So he's going up. They just keep raising him up. 80 games, he hits.293 with 10 homers and 50 RBI. Now, during that year, Coach Richie Hebner, who's a hitting coach for the Bulls, apparently gave him a critique of his

Starting point is 01:18:27 something with hitting. That was a bad idea. Dukes choked him with both hands. Fuck you mean lay down the bun. According to witnesses, quote, raising him a good two inches off the ground. He picked him up by his neck. He lifted him by his throat for telling him that he wasn't keeping his back elbow up enough.

Starting point is 01:18:44 Or you keep your head steady through your follow through. And he was like, fuck that. Yeah. Another teammate, a guy named Kevin Cash, who ended up playing for the Red Sox, said, quote, that wasn't a fun year. And that's what all I have to say about it. Wow. Like Duke's terrorized everybody. That's all I have to say about that.

Starting point is 01:19:01 That's all I have to say about that. But in 2006, like I said, he was named the top pure athlete in their organization by Baseball America. And Knox, the guy, the roommate he choked, said, he's a freak. He's so good. After he said what an asshole he is, he's like, he's amazing, though, on the field. And that was when he was talking about his choking abilities. He can also play baseball. He's a freak.

Starting point is 01:19:26 He noticed the same thing, Duke, in himself. He was self-aware enough, and we have an In Their Own Words about this whole thing. It's been a lot up to now for an In Their Own Words. No doubt. Let's get it all out and see what he says. In Their Own Words, quote, I have no idea when or if I'll be back. I packed up all my stuff and I'm heading home.

Starting point is 01:19:42 To be honest, I don't even know about baseball anymore. Everything is just wearing on me, and this year has just been so frustrating. I'm trying to keep my nose clean and keep to myself, but things just keep getting turned around. I'm tired of it. I just don't know about baseball anymore. I'm not saying I should have tried to go to the NFL, but maybe I should have done something else. All this stuff keeps following me, and now this. I'm tired of it.

Starting point is 01:20:01 I don't know if I'm coming back or what. I don't know about the Fall League. I don't know about anything other than I'm going home. Yeah. Out of there. He's done. That's when he's suspended for the rest of the year. He's like, fuck this shit.

Starting point is 01:20:10 I'm out of here. So good. Gilbert, the girlfriend, starts telling her wife at this point, starts telling people that he has been diagnosed bipolar, which would not surprise me at all. This guy needs some kind of medication. He's definitely something. But Tyrone Evans, his brother, says this does not tell the whole story. He says that, quote, Elijah's made some mistakes, but I'm the same guy who witnessed him break down.

Starting point is 01:20:30 Every time something goes wrong with one of his friends, if anything happened, he would be there for them. And I'm the same person who at his graduation party witnessed him crying. He has a big heart and he's very emotional. Yeah, he's unstable, it sounds like. It's called fucking mental health. It's called chemical imbalance and you have swings here. He's ill. He's sick. It's called fucking mental health. It's called chemical imbalance, and you have swings here. He's ill. He's sick.

Starting point is 01:20:47 It's what it seems like to me, but it never comes out. They never- They never diagnose him as sick. September 19th, 2006, his license is suspended again for failing to show proof of insurance. Like a fucking moron. September 20th, 2006, Dukes and Chantel Mitchell, one of his baby's mothers here, reach a settlement allowing their child to live with him for six months of the year when he's in Tampa. Child support is suspended, and he informally agrees to pay for the child's expenses. So now at least he doesn't have a payment looming over him.

Starting point is 01:21:17 He just has to take care of the kid. He has half the year. She has half the year. Exactly. That makes sense. So, yeah, everybody's equal. 2006 fall year league. He plays out in Arizona here. He plays for the Phoenix Desert Dogs, which I didn't know that was a team that existed here.

Starting point is 01:21:31 I had no idea. Plays in eight games, 313 average, two homers, eight RBI there. That's two homers in eight games. Are they what the Firebirds turned into? No, no, no. It's the Fall League. It's a different thing. It's not the Miners.

Starting point is 01:21:41 Where do the Firebirds go? Are they gone now? Yes, I believe they're gone. I don't remember where they went. I don't know. I think they're gone. I'm lost. It's not the minors. Where did the Firebirds go? Are they gone now? Yes, I believe they're gone. I don't remember where they went. I don't know. I think they're gone. I'm lost. Tucson.

Starting point is 01:21:48 They went to Tucson. Did they? Didn't they end up doing Tucson? Who gives a shit? Being the Sidewinders or whatever the fuck? They definitely were not a draw. I'll say that. No, because they were the Giants team.

Starting point is 01:21:55 I don't know. Whatever. Anyway, 2007 here. January 15th, 2007, Dukes and a passenger of his, Willie Evans, who is his older brother, are arrested during a traffic stop after Tampa police find about two grams of marijuana in the car. Now we got problems. There we go. He went from driving like shit to actually having drugs in the car.

Starting point is 01:22:15 They're charged with a misdemeanor count of marijuana possession, each of them. March 8, 2007, child support for Dukes and Gilbert here is settled through mediation. Look at that. These two should always have a mediator with them. March 8th, 2007, child support for Dukes and Gilbert here is settled through mediation. Oh. Look at that. These two should always have a mediator with them. Always. They allowed somebody to work it out for them. A guy should, or a woman, or a person should sleep between them in their bed and mediate.

Starting point is 01:22:36 He wants to touch your titty. Is that okay with you? She says, okay, fine, but you're not putting in her butt tonight. They need to go back and forth. He needs to have sex with you. Is that okay with you? Yes. Okay. Well, I will put the condom on him because that will not be inside you without it.

Starting point is 01:22:52 Child support payments are suspended and past money is waived. They're going to do an informal agreement here. Now, he also plays fucking baseball, as we remember. And he plays it apparently so well, he makes the Tampa Bay Devil Rays opening day major league roster. Wow.

Starting point is 01:23:07 He fucking plays. A major league game. He plays and makes the opening day roster while all this shit's going on. He plays mainly center field that year. April 2nd, 2007 is opening day in Yankee Stadium. Wow. He is in Yankee Stadium opening day first major league game he steps up there against carl pavano and his first at bat and launches a fucking home run out into the black section

Starting point is 01:23:32 not where they make black people sit but a section that's tarped off with a black tarp that we call the black section in centerfield yankee stadium well i wanted to make sure people didn't know i know but it sounds you never know people know. People hear America's race. If someone in New Zealand's like, they make the black sit in the section, that's terrible. I don't want anybody thinking that. It's a section tarped off with a black top. So that's why it's called that. And it's very far from home plate and really hard to hit out there.

Starting point is 01:23:56 And he crushes one out there. Goes one for three in the game. Good sign, though. That's his first major league at bat. No pressure. 55,000 people in the stands. He crushes it. Hits another homer the next day. Wow. So not too shabby, man. That's his first major league at bat. No pressure. 55,000 people in the stands. He crushes it. Hits another homer the next day.

Starting point is 01:24:06 Wow. So not too shabby, man. That is not bad. I actually remember that, too, that game. Yes, I do. I remember watching it. April 4th, 2007, he is good now. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:24:16 He's good now. Fluff pieces are starting to come out. Really? There's one fluff piece. They clearly haven't seen his fucking driving record. Oh, no. Articles on how it's all fine now. Because he had two home runs. So now it's OK. It's all fluff piece. They clearly haven't seen his fucking driving record. Oh, no. Articles on how it's all fine now because he had two home runs. So now it's OK.

Starting point is 01:24:27 It's all it's all behind him. It doesn't matter anymore. It's fine. Elijah said about his recovery here as a person, he said, quote, the anger would just take over. Now, when something happens, I can kind of switch sides and think about how the other person is thinking and how I can make it different. Yeah. So this is grace. Putting himself in other people's shoes already.

Starting point is 01:24:45 What a nice guy. This is Grace. And I considered calling Grace right after his dad killed the guy. Yeah. But I thought maybe that would be anticlimactic. A little premature. But that really was Grace. He hadn't been arrested yet.

Starting point is 01:24:55 April 26th, 2007. A woman named Portia Daniels files a paternity suit. Included in the suit is a positive DNA test result. Poor old Elijah. Of course. What the fuck? Exactly. Baby was born July 19th, 2006.

Starting point is 01:25:14 Not quite a year old. So if that's not enough to cause some strife in the marriage. Yeah. April 30th, 2007. Neshea is at school where she teaches at Beth Shields Middle School in Tampa. She is in her classroom at the middle school while the students are at lunch. Yeah. She's in her classroom like creating papers and shit, and there's other teachers there.

Starting point is 01:25:39 When all of a sudden she hears a banging on the door. Another teacher answered the door. Not a knock, a banging. Yeah. Other teacher answered the door, and I knock, a banging. Other teacher answered the door. And I'll let her say what happened here. She said, quote, it was Elijah, my husband, coming toward me at my desk stating he was going to beat my ass and kill me. Wow.

Starting point is 01:25:56 That's what he did in school in front of witnesses and other people at a middle school, for Christ's sake. What fight provokes that? That's what I mean. I don't know. She's mad at you because you have another fucking illegitimate kid that you knocked up

Starting point is 01:26:09 all over together. No, but I mean, how do you show up and go, bitch, I'm a beat your ass. How do you even do that? I have no fucking idea. He later walked,

Starting point is 01:26:18 he left the room, he walked the school's halls and Gilbert and the other teacher ran to the school's office to get the principal to call the cops. She said ran to the school's office to get the principal, to call the cops. She said, quote, I told them to get the deputy because he was acting out of his mind. I told them, just have him escorted off. I don't want him to go to jail. Just make him leave. A deputy tried to calm him down. The principal came. He yelled at Dukes. Gilbert

Starting point is 01:26:40 said the principal yelled at him like a kid, admonished him. He was ordered to leave campus. As if a principal can fucking tell him how to behave. A cop can't even do it. But it's weird. I don't know if maybe that, it's like a coach. Well, he choked his coach, so never mind. Maybe this is going to turn things around for him. Maybe.

Starting point is 01:26:57 That's what I think. He's good now. They give him a trespass warning, not to do it again. It said on the thing, estranged wife is employee. He came to see her, dash, very irate. So I would say yes. So on the paper, it says very irate. So May 1st, the next day, she files a protective order against him again.

Starting point is 01:27:16 Now, let's do that. Things were just fine two months ago. What a mess. May 14th, 2007, the judge throws the petition for protection out because Gilbert fails to show up for a court hearing. She says she missed the hearing because one of her children had to be taken to the hospital, which if that's true, that's a fair excuse for pretty much anything. May 17th, 2007, three days later, she files for another petition. This is where it gets interesting. Now it does?

Starting point is 01:27:43 Now it gets interesting. Him showing up to school to beat her ass. He hasn't done the two worst things he's going to do yet. Okay, let's put it that way. This is crazy. She said she has received death threats from him in recent weeks, including a message that he left on her phone, a voicemail that he left on her phone. He left on her phone on May 2nd. Okay.

Starting point is 01:28:06 This is fucking nuts. This is after that incident. And you can think he goes to the school, freaks out. She files an order of protection the next day. Next day after that, he's retaliating. Now, what he does, he sends her a text message with a photo of a handgun, just a photo of a handgun. And then he leaves her a voicemail.

Starting point is 01:28:26 And I'm going to say N word on this just because it's i'm not gonna do okay so he says in their own words on this i guess quote this is the mother of his children quote hey dog it's on dog you dead dog i ain't even bullshitting your kids too dog i don't even it don't even matter to me who's in the car with you n-word all i know is N-word, when I see you, your motherfucking ass riding dog, it's on. As a matter of fact, I'm coming to your motherfucking house. He said that to a woman. Click.

Starting point is 01:28:53 He said that to the mother of his children. He said that into a recording. Into a recording, he called the mother of his children dog. Dog and the N-word and said, I'm coming to your motherfucking house. I don't care. Your kids, too. your motherfucking house. Your kids, too. Those are his kids. Your kids, sir.

Starting point is 01:29:07 Not your kids. They're his kids. Don't even matter to me who's in the car with you. What the fuck? When I see your motherfucking ass riding, dog, it's on. Whoa. She also says that Dukes called her and said to check her cell phone, and that's when she also saw the text message of the handgun after this. Like, hey, by the way, I also have – I'm not kidding.

Starting point is 01:29:34 James, sometimes you and your ex-wife don't get along. Not like this. Would you say that? We never don't get along like this. We're just like – Would you ever say that? No, yeah. We don't fight. We're just like, would you ever say that? We don't fight or anything. That's crazy. This is insanity. That's bananas.

Starting point is 01:29:50 Drop the kids off and go on your way. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Move on. She said also in the order, she said, quote, Elijah continues to call me telling me he's going to kill me and texting me pictures of a gun. I'm scared for my life and my kid's life.

Starting point is 01:30:05 She didn't call the police about those threats, saying that she saw the restraining order as an alternative way to protect herself, saying that people kept telling me it would mess up his career. And for her, that's money, too. So it's another thing where you're like, do I fuck up his money? That's also coming to me. Yeah, but he just. Yeah, at that point, who knows? After that phone call, who the fuck cares? She plays the voicemail and the judge grants the petition, obviously.

Starting point is 01:30:31 Now, the mother, Phyllis, Mama Gilretha Award nominee here, says that the incident was triggered by Nishay's withdrawal of thousands of dollars from a bank account. She said that's what... she filed a protection order. She probably filed a protection order, took some money out so she could get out of the fucking house. And that's what you do. But he said. I'm going to kill you. Phyllis Duke said that she later returned the money. I don't care who's in the car, dog.

Starting point is 01:31:00 Your kids. Your kids, too. Your kids, too, dog. Dog. It's on, dog. What? Yeah. So he did use the kids, too. Threaten your kids' lives. Your kids, too, dog. Dog? It's on, dog. What? N-word? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:31:07 So he did use the A, too. He didn't go hard R on her. Oh, good for him. Yeah. Makes it so much more loving. Yeah. What the fuck? She said that she returned the money.

Starting point is 01:31:19 Gilbert returned the money, but not till after they had a fight at the baseball field. Oh, for Christ's sake. They had a fight at Tropicana Field. She disputes the story, Neshea. She says, quote, I'm not going to feed into that. She texts a reporter, quote, how can I steal money when we are married with two kids and on a joint account? And later on, she also said, all I want to do, all I want for my husband is for him to

Starting point is 01:31:39 get help. No shit. I mean, she's yes and no. Yeah. She then goes on to say You're right. It's not technically stealing, but it's still fucking stealing. It's kind of. You know what? If someone

Starting point is 01:31:52 barges in and threatens to kill you at work and you have to get out of that situation, how are you going to get out of that situation? You take some of the money to get out of that situation. You don't egg on somebody that just threatened to kill you. No, but she didn't have much choice. All she has to do is take his ass to court, and she's going to win.

Starting point is 01:32:08 Maybe, and then he might not pay child support and just get his license suspended again. He's going to go to jail if he doesn't pay it. And then are you getting paid? You're still not getting your money. Fuck, it's brutal, man. It's so shitty. May 23, 2007, she says, Gilbert says, quote, he's trying to act like he's made a change. He's made no changes.

Starting point is 01:32:23 He's gotten worse. He says that he plays baseball, that he plays baseball and no one can fuck with him. I don't think that I should live in fear. When the Rays go out of town, I come home. When they're at home, I go stay with my mother. I shouldn't have to live like that because he's a baseball player. She's not wrong. She's fucking scared of him.

Starting point is 01:32:38 Phyllis, again, Mama Gilretha here, described Deshae as a woman scorned who was having trouble with the couple's breakup. She said, quote, he moved on with his life. She was hurting a lot. I'll be glad when they're divorced or separated. We'll all be glad when they're divorced. His agent sticks up for him, too. Silver-haired, middle-aged white men start coming out of the woodwork for him here because he can hit home runs.

Starting point is 01:33:00 Scott Puccino questioned whether Deshae's motives in making the allegations were just for money. You don't get to speculate that, sir. Not this guy. He says, quote, I don't know those allegations to be true. I do know I think she's clearly using the media to leverage this divorce proceeding.

Starting point is 01:33:16 Oh, dude. There's money involved, and unfortunately, she's going to the media. Agents are scumbags, man. Also, yeah, it's ridiculous. And then he goes on to say what he he says quote he's made a lot of strides but obviously this is something that certainly requires our attention uh is yeah as that's what a uh devil raised executive said because again silver-haired middle-aged like crazy media approached dukes during batting practice that

Starting point is 01:33:39 day when it happened and he just declined to discuss the allegations he said quote i'm just going to play ball. That's it. I've got to go. I've got a video game to finish. So that's how much he gives a shit about it. Playing or actually trying to help develop? Going to play. No, he's going to play a game in the clubhouse.

Starting point is 01:33:54 He's going to take his swings and then go back and play in the clubhouse. That's what baseball players do in the clubhouse. He then referred to a statement. The team president basically put out a statement for him. And he said, just look at that statement the other guy wrote. It said, quote, the end of our marriage is a personal matter for my wife and me. Out of respect for my family, especially my children, I wish to keep our proceedings private. Well, that's not going to happen because you can get arrested.

Starting point is 01:34:17 And hot dogs are two for one down at the stadium this weekend. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, my God. Exactly. Oh, my God. Andrew Friedman, who is the silver haired middle aged white man team's executive vice president of baseball operations, said he was aware of the marital strife, but knew nothing about the allegations of threats. He said, quote, I think it's premature to comment on it. This is the first that I've heard of it. The only knowledge we have is that this was a messy divorce, but obviously not the not to the extent that she's stating. And Thursday's bobblehead day. Listen, she's fine. Come on down to the stadium.

Starting point is 01:34:47 Get yourself a Rocco Ball Deli bobblehead. Bring the kiddos, why don't you? Let's go. Jesus. It's a family affair down here. He's going to be beating the shit out of his wife at the seventh inning stretch. Yeah. So they contacted Carla Bryant and said, well, why did you file a protection order against

Starting point is 01:35:01 him? And she said that she was going through some complicated issues. Her grandfather was ailing and Dukes was trying to be more involved in the daughter's life. And she said, quote, we've resolved an issue that we probably could have dealt with ourselves. But as far as anything domestic, I haven't had any altercations with him recently and anything in the past.

Starting point is 01:35:18 I'd like to leave it there. He hasn't been crazy lately. Let's just hope it stays. Let's just not rock the boat. Yeah. She also says she has no complaints about the way he treats the child. Nobody has complained that he's mean to the kids

Starting point is 01:35:29 ever. That's one thing. He's always nice to the kids, I guess, unless he's throwing something at a mother or holding one. He doesn't beat the kids or kick the kids or call them shitheads or anything like that. And that's fine and all, but they see how you treat their mother and that's not fucking healthy either. Now back to the show.

Starting point is 01:35:53 Yeah, so at this point, he's got five kids by four women, by the way. That's a lot of fucking kids here. Doing great. Let's get more. June 12, 2007, a 17-year-old foster child living with Elijah Duke's grandmother tells police that he impregnated her. Oh, my God. They think that the sex was consensual and there's no crime committed. And I'll tell you why.

Starting point is 01:36:15 Because the age of consent in Florida is 18. If the other person is 24 or younger, it's 16. What? So if you're 21, you can fuck a can fuck a 16 year old but if you're 25 you can only fuck an 18 year old and he was 23 that is horrific just in under the radar yeah he is oh my god yeah he's 23 years old with all of this all of this he's only 23 has five kids he's got all this shit going on uh yeah there was an anonymous tip that told police to look into the matter it was at the uh the home of his step-grandmother, Johnny Johnson is her name.

Starting point is 01:36:48 She told police that the teen girl lived in her home until she turned 18. She said that she learned about the pregnancy right before the girl left the home. The baby's due November 5th. The investigator said that she and Dukes had consensual sex on the living room sofa. She said Dukes got angry when she and another person confronted him about the pregnancy. Quote, yeah, we sat down and told him and he got mad and threw a Gatorade at me. There you go. So that's his thing.

Starting point is 01:37:17 At least he didn't choke her. What the fuck? He will not be charged with a crime like we said. His wife is super pissed. Oh, I'm sure. Can you imagine? What would you do? That's not going to fly.

Starting point is 01:37:29 About a 17-year-old, too. Jesus, no. She said, quote, You banged a 17-year-old foster child at your grandmother's house. On the couch. On the couch. She said, quote, And then hucked a Gatorade bottle at her when you found out she was pregnant.

Starting point is 01:37:41 Oh, my God. She said, it's hurtful to find out that this might have happened when we were married, but it's not a surprise. It's not a shock. Anything is expected from Elijah. Oh, my God. No shit. Yeah. Now, the grandmother said that she doesn't understand it because he occasionally stopped by the home, but he never stayed for very long.

Starting point is 01:37:59 Yeah. She knows that he met the teen, but didn't think there was any relationship between the pair. She said, quote, if they were seeing each other, it had to be real sneaky because I've never seen Elijah or her. They don't have her name because she's only 17. Like when you like somebody, you make giggly eyes or something. Like he never even talked to her that I know of. Giggly eyes. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:23 She said, quote, they never showed any interest in each other. I thought they was mean to each other. They just didn't like each other, honestly. That's what she felt because then there was animosity and she didn't know what happened. So she was just like, I just thought something went wrong and they didn't like each other anymore. Now, Tampa Bay Devil Ray management said that they would not comment on the investigation and neither will he. Team spokesman Chris Costello said, quote, he will not discuss personal matters. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:52 His mother, Phyllis, Mama Gilretha here, said, quote, he was doing so well on the field. He's doing so good. It's just every time he turns around, there's something coming at him. Right. Yeah, like a 17-year-old girl's vagina. Right. Something's coming at him. 17-year-old pussy just being thrown at him. Jesus Christ, man.

Starting point is 01:39:02 No, the guy can't stop fucking. He can't stop fucking and making children. What the shit? June 20th, 2007. He's 23 years old. Yeah, he absolutely is. Not even yet, actually. He'll be 23 at the end of this month.

Starting point is 01:39:16 Unbelievable. June 20th, 2007, he calls a Fort Lauderdale radio show on WDAE and goes off on his ex-wife. show on WDAE and goes off on his ex-wife. In their own words, quote, I know if I'd stayed with her, I'd physically be in prison because she provoked me by hitting me. She done hit me across the head with a picture frame and everything. I hate that because I told my kids I would never go back to jail for no domestic violence. You know what, Jimmy? My dad once, when I was a young boy, he sat me on his lap and he told me the same thing.

Starting point is 01:39:46 He said, your mama hit me across the head with a picture frame and everything, but I will never go to jail for no domestic violence. That's a real word cleaver teaching moment right there. Mine said something like, it's on, dog. I don't care who you're riding with. Who you're riding with. As soon as I see you riding, dog, it's on. He also, in this, talks about his mom's crack sales. And his mom calls in and talks about her crack sales.

Starting point is 01:40:10 It's amazing. He says about his mom's crack sales, quote, just like the Bible says, if you know it's not true, you don't have to say anything. And I haven't been saying anything. But I will say something about this situation with my mom out of my mouth because everybody knows I do love my mom. And I am tough with my mom out of my mouth because everybody knows I do love my mom and I am tough on my mom but I know for a fact I never told nobody my mom smoked crack because that would be a lie on my behalf she never told me and I never caught her I love when they try to say things that sound smart she never told me and I never caught her doesn't mean you don't think she

Starting point is 01:40:39 smoked crack that means I never saw it in front of my eyes uh she Phyllis heard him on the radio and called in again. She said, quote, his father and his crackhead mother, it follows him. That's what people think. It brings out his temper. She's blaming herself. Mishay said this? No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:40:53 His mom. His mom, Phyllis. She's blaming herself for everything he's done. It brings out his temper. Ever since he was in high school, every little thing he did was in the paper. Nothing good. She blames everyone else and the pressure. She admitted on the radio that she dealt crack cocaine for a while, but said she never used

Starting point is 01:41:08 it. And she has no criminal record at all, the mother. As the radio host of that show, you would be doing backflips. They were. She is talking about selling rock. Can you guys believe this? Well, he calls up and goes off. They talk to Chantrell Mitchell.

Starting point is 01:41:22 She says that he's a great dad. He said, we're not in a relationship, but he calls me every day to talk to my child. MLB, on the other hand, is like, shut that motherfucker up. Shut everyone the fuck up here. Yeah. Well, this is John Rocker and his wife, essentially. This is great. This is Elijah Jr. she's talking about.

Starting point is 01:41:37 She said that he likes to put his baseball glove on and likes to play baseball. I'm like, no more. Stop. No. Keep that kid fucking. Give him a book. No more baseball. No one. I'm like, no more. Stop. No. Keep that kid fucking in. Give him a book. No more baseball. No one. Read him Cat in the Hat.

Starting point is 01:41:50 July 2007, there's a divorce proceeding here with Neshea here. She testifies accusing her husband of smoking weed every day and using steroids. Now also. Steroids remained in question at the end of the two and a half hour hearing, but he did admit under oath that he smokes marijuana daily,

Starting point is 01:42:06 and Judge Kevin Carey ordered Dukes to take random drug tests for marijuana. He admitted it under oath. So while all this is going on, the Devil Rays list him as day-to-day on the injury report, citing personal reasons. Then they end up putting him on the inactive list and just taking him off for the rest of the year. They say, quote, to take some time away from the field and focus on his personal life, reevaluate everything,

Starting point is 01:42:28 and most importantly, allow him an opportunity away from the spotlight. Not brought back for the rest of the season. Oh, yeah, he played baseball. Fuck. That season, 52 games, 184 at bats. He only hit 190 with 10 home runs, 21 RBI, but Jesus Christ, he was a little distracted. A smidge.

Starting point is 01:42:44 A smidge. He's got phone calls to make. A little bit. He makes $380,000 for the year, though. That's good. Not too bad. August 4th, 2007, he may face jail time of up to one year for violating a protective order against Nishay. Obviously, he was charged with one count of violating a protective order, and it's a first

Starting point is 01:43:03 degree misdemeanor. 2007-2008, he plays in the Dominican Winter League. Yeah. Has words with a catcher and an umpire in his first at-bat. Oh, crap. And his first at-bat makes suggestive gestures to the crowd after being hit by a pitch, and then is ejected after attacking an umpire. What are the suggestive— Grabbing his dick and shit like that.

Starting point is 01:43:20 Is that it? Yeah. After getting hit by a pitch? Yeah, because the crowd was booing him for going after him for talking shit. So he jerks his dick in their general direction. So he's like, yeah, fuck you. Okay. Whatever gave him the finger, just suggestive gestures.

Starting point is 01:43:30 And then he tries to attack the umpire after he's ejected. Now there's the part. Yeah. He hits 236 in 18 games there. December 3rd, fucking Rays have had enough of this shit. They trade him. Someone's willing to take him. Washington Nationals, they get him in an exchange for Glenn Gibson, who was a left-handed pitcher who played five years all in the minors.

Starting point is 01:43:49 December 10, 2007, another woman, Amanda Reese, a 23-year-old woman, says she dated Elijah Dukes. She files a domestic violence charge against him in Florida. She is granted a temporary injunction of protection against domestic violence on December 10th, a week after the trade. Reese says that Duke sent her a text message on October 23rd that stated she would, quote, have to deal with the consequences and, quote, don't let me see you when I come home. It's a promise. Now make your move.

Starting point is 01:44:19 Oh, boy. That's some threatening shit. It's a promise, James. It's a promise. Yeah. Citing Reese's petition to the court, she wrote, at this point, I fear for me and my child's life due to Duke's past history with his estranged wife. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:33 They tried to reach her for the interview to interview her. They couldn't. But they did get a hold of Scott Puccino, the agent, silver haired, middle aged dickhead. He says, quote, I don't know a lot about it. I do know that it's an old issue that happened before the Washington Nationals got him. That I do know. I'm not allowed to make a lot of comments with the legal process still complete.

Starting point is 01:44:52 It happened a week before. They got traded a week before. That's the thing. It happened. So, what are you talking about? It's fine. It's all under the card wrong now. That shit happened like, that was like a week ago. You know, that shit's over now. That's old shit. That's old shit there. This is ridiculous ridiculous jesus christ now he's got restraining orders coming from everywhere suspended for the whole season of fucking good god what is he even

Starting point is 01:45:12 doing driving not playing baseball is he driving once he doesn't have to worry about that maybe they impounded his car he's got a walk christ i hope so he's walking through a bad neighborhood he passes a building and all of a sudden somebody somebody pops out, gets right in his face, and it's Estevez Jones, MMA fighter and 70s blaxploitation film villain. And he says... Motherfucker, how is it you come to arrive here? Nah, for real, motherfucker. Now, listen to me.

Starting point is 01:45:42 You be talking on the phone, motherfucker? They're recording that. That's a recording. It's a vo for real, motherfucker. Now, listen to me. You be talking on the phone, motherfucker. They're recording that. That's a recording. It's a voicemail, motherfucker. I even know that shit. I'm from the 70s. You don't talk on the phone. What the fuck wrong?

Starting point is 01:45:52 What the fuck kind of criminal is you, man? Jesus Christ. Mother, you just, now listen to me. You be pissing me off, motherfucker. Yeah, I get it. My daddy got locked up, too. You don't think my pops went to jail when I was a kid? He went to jail, too.

Starting point is 01:46:04 I didn't start beating up women. You know what I started doing? I took over his empire. That's what I did. I started selling. I got on the corner. I got my girls out. That's what I did.

Starting point is 01:46:13 I'm about to break the tip of my alligator off in the crack of your ass, motherfucker. You pissing me off. You pissing me off. Tip of my alligator. Poof. Ended up in a puff of mink and gold and cheetah print. He's gone. And Elijah's extremely confused, but things are more straight in his mind.

Starting point is 01:46:34 He feels like he's sitting there going, he told me, I'm going to fucking get you a CB radio. And he doesn't understand why that is. And then he realizes he's from the 70s. Joe Madden, the manager of the Devil Race, is very excited that Elijah's gone. Joe Madden, that's the coach's manager. Yeah, he's very excited to be gone, rid of Elijah. He says that it feels like a weight's been lifted off with Duke's gone, and he says, quote, it feels a whole lot better here.

Starting point is 01:46:54 He's just like, that fucking lunatic. Nobody's running around talking about, when I see you riding. Yeah, you know, I wanted to tell him to, you know, put his body into his throes a little more, but I wanted to choke me off the ground. How many times do you think he said that to an umpire? Motherfucker, when I see you riding. Yeah. I see you riding, you motherfucking ass riding.

Starting point is 01:47:11 Who's in the car? So he goes to the Nationals. The Nationals hire an ex-police officer in the role of, quote, special assistant for player concerns. This is Duke's babysitter. Special assistant for player concerns. In other words, babysitter. That is crazy. That's crazy Duke's babysitter. Special assistant for player concerns. That is crazy. That's crazy talk for babysitter. They hire an ex-cop to go everywhere with him.

Starting point is 01:47:31 Even when he's out doing BP, this cop goes through his pockets in the locker room and shit to make sure he doesn't have drugs on him or anything. They're trying to make sure he's not fucking up. Or a cell phone to be making threats on. Exactly. They put him in counseling. He's putting condoms in his pockets. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:45 Taking the drugs out, putting condoms in there. That's great. There you go, buddy. He's in counseling. They have him working with Barry Larkin, who's a Hall of Famer here. Because he's known as the most upstanding guy ever. He was so clean. So they go to him and he said, Duke says, quote, I was in a shell, and they forced me to get out, especially hanging around Barry.

Starting point is 01:48:06 He smiles all day. They're like, look, here, be like him. Look at this guy. Look at him. Isn't he great? He's got a smile on this motherfucker. You can be a rich guy. It's a Hall of Famer that everybody loves if you just stop beating up women and driving.

Starting point is 01:48:17 He's a handsome dude, too, Barry Larkin. He is a handsome guy. He's just a big, clean complexion, just a picturesque baseball player. Not too shabby. That was awesome. March 28, 2008, he's absent from the team's final day of spring training so he could be in court to answer a misdemeanor charge that he violated a domestic violence injunction. Fuck. Opening day is the next day.

Starting point is 01:48:35 Where you at, Barry? Come on, Barry. He plays and injures his hamstring. And he's out for a month. Perfect. So he's out for a month. He comes back July 5th. He hurts his knee. Has to have minor surgery.

Starting point is 01:48:47 He's out almost another month again. They talk about some private stuff here. Gilbert has the restraining order against him and they get a divorce. They're in the middle of a divorce but he's still allowed to see his kids and sometimes he brings his other kids by

Starting point is 01:49:03 the park and has all his kids running around. All these fucking kids. Yeah. And sometimes he brings his other kids by the park and has all his kids running around. All these fucking kids. Yeah. Who was that? Riddick Bowe did the same thing. Yeah, Riddick Bowe. Bring more kids to see these kids. Sean Kemp.

Starting point is 01:49:11 Yeah, yeah. Someone we covered. Yeah. He also has 25 games in the minors that year doing injury rehab. Speaking of Riddick Bowe, that motherfucker just had an article, a GoFundMe set up for him. I saw that, yeah. It's all over our Twitter.

Starting point is 01:49:22 It's funny. It's a goddamn mess. Yeah. He plays with three different teams, 25 games. I saw that, yeah. It's all over our Twitter. It's funny, everyone's making fun of him. Yeah, he plays with three different teams, 25 games. He hits.203 there. So it's September 11, 2008, versus the Mets in New York. He hits a homer off

Starting point is 01:49:33 Pelfrey, the pitcher, in the second inning. Next at bat, the first pitch he saw was slightly inside. It was not, he didn't hit him with it. It wasn't even close. It wasn't like, I'm buzzing your face. Dukes immediately gets pissed off and starts jawing with him. Pelfrey said, quote, I clearly wasn't trying to hit him. Other people ran out of the dugout to restrain Dukes and hauled him back here.

Starting point is 01:49:56 He wanted to charge the mound? Or did he charge the mound? He wanted to fight about it. And Jerry Manuel said, quote, at first I thought the ball went behind him, the way he reacted. I said to catcher Brian Schneider, where was the ball? He said it was almost a strike. And then the guy said, well, what am I doing out here then? I might get beat up.

Starting point is 01:50:15 He was like, he must have hit him with it. And they all came out and they're like, well, why are we scuffling? It was almost a strike. And they're like, I don't know. He's like, well, what am I standing here getting beat up for? For no fucking reason. This guy's crazy. He ends up composing himself, doesn't get kicked out, doubles later in the at-bat.

Starting point is 01:50:28 Later on in the fifth inning, he is hit with a pitch, and he ends up going to first base. He sticks his tongue out at fans. Oh, Christ. He starts making bring-it-on gestures as they boo him when he comes out for the ninth inning. He's just being a complete asshole. the ninth inning. He's just being a complete asshole. And then also the Mets accused him of leading chance from the dugout

Starting point is 01:50:47 that Nelson Figueroa likened the Nationals to a female softball team. It's like, I don't know, some childlike girl. Whatever it is. It's just calling them girls, which is saying they're inferior,

Starting point is 01:51:04 I guess. He's just calling them girls, which saying they're inferior, I guess. He's just so dumb. He hit 276 at bats. He hits 264, 13 home runs, 44 RBI, 13 steals. He makes $392,500 here. I mean, that's probably just a super hack. Like calling them like a league of their own or some shit. Or calling somebody Betty Davis.

Starting point is 01:51:25 Was that her name? Betty Davis? I think that's her name. The one that played for the team, the catcher. That was Betty Davis, right? No. It's not Betty Davis. Gina Davis. I was like, are you out of your mind? Betty Davis is like from the fucking 40s.

Starting point is 01:51:34 There you go. What am I doing? Gina Davis. She looks like she's from the 40s also. She does. Much smaller teeth. Very small. Lots of gums, though.

Starting point is 01:51:44 Early 2009, he has a little bit more than a week to pay about $41,000 in overdue child support payments. If he doesn't, he could face going to jail. A little over a week. A little over a week. $40,643. He owes money to Neshea Dukes. Also owes money for her attorney fees that he's supposed to pay that he didn't pay. Yeah, he can go to jail for 90 days if this doesn't happen here.

Starting point is 01:52:10 He has three kids with her. In April of 2008, he was ordered to pay $6,527 per month in child support and alimony. She received a payment of $16,685 on April 11th. Since then, she's only received $200, which is not even close. So much money that he owes. Yeah, it's crazy. April 21st, 2009, he is supposed to make, he makes a personal appearance

Starting point is 01:52:34 at a Virginia Little League's season opening gathering. For money. They're paying him money for this because he needs it for his goddamn child support. He's taking $500 from a Little League to go talk to them. This is a few hours before a Nationals game, though, and he ends up being late for the ballpark and fined by the Nationals.

Starting point is 01:52:52 So he makes $500. The Nationals fine him $500. It's a lot. The Little League said they're going to raise the additional $500 to cover his fine. What? He makes $415,000 this year. And we're going to give him $500. We're going to help pay his fine because he was here.

Starting point is 01:53:08 He only talked for like a minute, too. He watched the parade. He signed autographs. He spoke for about one minute and then had to run and was still late. What a dick. So it's like, fuck, man. He also played baseball, minor leagues, two teams, 22 games, 276 with three home runs. 2009, there's a fluff piece on him on Bleacher Report.

Starting point is 01:53:27 What could they possibly say nice about this man? Elijah Dukes. Are his problems the result of a bad man or a bad childhood? They talk about him owing 40K in child support. Does it have to be mutually exclusive? Exactly. What the fuck? They talk about his upbringing.

Starting point is 01:53:40 Listen to this quote. This is so pro-Elijah Dukes. Quote, it's open season on Elijah Dukes, again. Other than a couple of very minor skirmishes last season, Dukes has kept his head down and his temper in check since joining the Nationals. Now a Tampa judge has threatened him

Starting point is 01:53:55 with jail time if he doesn't pay more than $40,000 in alimony and child support. Dukes' lawyer said that the outfielder will comply with the order. In other words, there isn't a story here. And yet you can't visit an internet sports site without being bombarded with stories about Elijah Dukes being in trouble again. To be sure, Dukes has brought this feeding frenzy upon himself. As Dr. Phil would say, the best predictor of future actions are past actions.

Starting point is 01:54:20 Don't you ever quote Dr. Phil in a sports article. In other words, the sports world is watching Elijah Dukes very closely. Whoever wrote this just lost all credibility in my book for fucking any sort of sports commentary. They're watching Elijah Dukes very closely, waiting for him to fail because they expect him to fail.

Starting point is 01:54:37 Perhaps they even want him to fail. They're literally saying that everyone's rooting against him, this poor guy. Ah, fuck this guy. He threatened. Hey, I don't even want to get into it. You into it you know what he did don't worry though there's a silver-haired middle-aged white man on the case that who do we have the name he's a fucking idiot listen author when i catch you riding dog yeah fuck him i didn't give him credit on purpose he sucks i don't care okay your kids, too. Don't worry. There are some silver-haired, middle-aged white men on the case.

Starting point is 01:55:12 Nationals GM Jim Bowden said the team had known about the situation prior to acquiring him, and they're working with him to resolve it. It's all good. Of course. He's good now. We'll figure it out. With the Nats that year, 107 games, 364 at-bats. He hit.250 with eight home runs, 58 RBI, and only three steals. Made $415,500

Starting point is 01:55:26 like we said. Played in the Dominican League that year. Had two home runs in four games. March 17, 2010, he is released by Washington. In the middle of spring training, he's projected to be their starting left fielder, and they shit-can him out of there. They're done.

Starting point is 01:55:42 He's out. There's two and a half weeks left in spring training training they call it inexplicable in all these articles i can explain it there's countless like fan blogs like you know the fucking amazing avenue or whatever it is the med shit where it's them calling for why aren't we bringing this guy in he's perfect for us if he comes here with our veteran leadership he's not going to be a dick and he'll totally turn it around. Yeah, but your women in your city are in danger. No, he's not.

Starting point is 01:56:08 It's not going to happen anyway. And fucking umpires and teammates and fucking coaches. Everybody's in danger. And anybody on the fucking road. Oh, forget that. How could you want him in your town? He's been in a lot of accidents at least. In their own words, I don't know what to say.

Starting point is 01:56:23 It felt a little funny. I guess I wasn't expecting it. That's part of baseball. No big deal. No hard feelings. Just part of the game. All I've been doing is my job. So he's trying to play it cool now because he's like, I need another job. They put him on waivers. They pay him 30 days termination

Starting point is 01:56:38 pay at the minor league rate if his split contract instead of 45 days at the Major League rate. Very confusing. He's owed a little under $41,000. He would have been owed $109,000 if he would have been released a week later in spring training. They released him early because it's a contract issue.

Starting point is 01:56:57 Manager Jim Riggleman and General Manager Mike Rizzo and Team President Stan Kasten all said the move was based on performance on the field, was not connected to any off-field issues, obviously. Jim Riggleman here said, quote, Elijah was great. He's done his work. He's got no issues. It's just a baseball decision. I don't know. Kasten here said, quote, the team president, who's the silverest one of them all, he said,

Starting point is 01:57:19 quote, he never got any of the bad headlines everybody feared when he came here. Actually, he did. I think he deserves credit for that. I think he deserves credit for that i think he deserves credit he didn't get bad headlines so give him he didn't beat up any pregnant women so let's give him credit if anyone says there was an incident that person has no idea what he's talking about well actually i do have an incident of when he let's not talk about how many times have you read uh uh barry larkin was wasn't a terrible person do you have to read that to know that? His lawyer, Grady Irvin Jr., who's a complete dickhead and another junior,

Starting point is 01:57:53 he says, quote, Mr. Dukes has absolutely no new off-field issues whatsoever. Dukes said that his agent was already working on finding him a good fit for a new team. He says, most definitely, I'll be back. Like, it is all good. I'll be right back. He never plays in the majors again, ever. I'll be right back. He never plays in the majors again, ever. I'll be right back, kids. Yes.

Starting point is 01:58:10 It's like that dad that goes, I'm just going to get ice cream. 240 games, MLB totals here. 240 games, 824 at-bats, 199 hits. He hit.242 with a.771 OPS, 31 home runs, 123 RBI, 18 steals, but he was also caught stealing 18 times. Not good. 50-50 is terrible. April 2010, he signs with the Tabasco Olmecas of the Mexican League.

Starting point is 01:58:33 You bet he did. But then backs out. Oh, really? This is too embarrassing even for me. I can't do this. This is embarrassing. I have so many kids with so many different women. God damn it. Down here, they're all excessively fertile.

Starting point is 01:58:44 I'm going to have 50 kids by the end of the season. Oh, that's a great point. Jesus Christ almighty. Holy shit. July 2, 2010, he signs with the Newark Bears, an independent minor league team. They're an indie team. That's like every washed-up major leaguer who can't hook on anywhere. They go play there.

Starting point is 01:58:57 Jose Canseco, Ricky Henderson. On the team while he's playing is Carl Everett, and Tim Raines manages and plays on the team, which is crazy. He's a player and manager. Player and manager. Yeah, it's an indie team. Carl Everett hit 279 in 39 games that year. Raines played in 30 games, for Christ's sake.

Starting point is 01:59:13 Elijah plays in 26 games, has 101 at-bats, hits.366 with five homers and 19 RBI. So on the field, that's great. 2010, his father gets out of prison. Oh, great! Isn't that nice? He's so excited. He's been saying his father had some work release, and he'd go see his father gets out of prison oh great that nice he's so excited he's been saying he his father had some like work release and he'd go see his father he's so excited so his father gets out of prison which is so nice uh a month later he dies of cancer oh no yes a

Starting point is 01:59:35 month later he dies of cancer so not good heartbreak heartbreak this guy holy shit yeah man it went from celebration to planning a funeral in four weeks. Yeah, it's so bad, man. It's so fucking bad, man. His mother talks about how he was so sad because his father never got a chance to see him play because he went away before he started playing, gets out and dies. What's worse, if he dies of cancer in prison or a month later? Man, a month later, at least she got to see him.

Starting point is 02:00:02 But shit, that's brutal. That's a tease. He wasn't in good health. I mean, Jesus Christ. I think his son gave him cancer. I think his stupidity gave him cancer. He was embarrassed in the cancer. Can we blame Elijah Jr.?

Starting point is 02:00:13 He was more embarrassed about that than the murder he committed. So I feel bad. The brother's been fucking now. Think about the little brother. He's all embarrassed. By the way, Tyrone says that Elijah doesn't talk to him much anymore. During this whole thing, he's got so much going on, so he's not even talking to his little brother. His mother's having to go out there and say how she sold crack and defended him in the streets.

Starting point is 02:00:31 Yeah, she's going to fucking ruin her whole legacy. Four women have five kids that they're getting spotty child support payments on and Gatorade bottles and candy jars chucked at their head and they're being choked. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. All of them. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Elijah Dukes, a land manager at TCC Global in Hollywood, Florida. Wow. I don't know what that is. And he's in Florida, too.

Starting point is 02:00:53 Elijah Dukes, basketball and football player. What? At Flower Mound High School in Flower Mound, Texas. By the way, he's 6'1". Is that one of his kids? No, it's not one of his kids. That's what I thought, too. I'm like, is that his fucking kid? I'm like, no, no, his kid 6'1", also. Is that one of his kids? No, it's not one of his kids. That's what I thought, too. I'm like, is that his fucking kid?

Starting point is 02:01:05 I'm like, no, no. His kid's like 13 years old. He's a class of 2016, so he graduated. But if you look up Elijah Dukes basketball or football. You'd find that guy. Sorry. Yeah. And finally, Elijah Dukes, Tampa, Florida.

Starting point is 02:01:17 I don't know if this is him. Student at Love Beauty School. Oh, Christ. Is he going to beauty school now? I hope it's him. I swear to Christ. Well, he has a couple other careers that he's interested in that we'll get into here. All right.

Starting point is 02:01:28 Number one is being arrested on contempt of court charges. That happens on November 3rd, 2010. That's a pretty sweet career. Yeah, it's related to nonpayment of child support, obviously. February 2011, he calls the Tampa Tribune and just goes off on shit. Really? Starts telling them that he smoked marijuana before games with the Nationals. He said that teammates used to bring weed and cocaine on team flights.

Starting point is 02:01:51 So he's blowing up the spot of everybody. Is this like the way he's just going to be like a tell-all guy? Not only that, now I don't give a shit about baseball. I'm not doing that anymore. I am now a rapper. Oh my Christ. And my name. Yes am now a rapper. Oh, my Christ. And my name. Yes.

Starting point is 02:02:06 Jimmy puts his head down on the mic. And my name is, quote, Fly Eli. Yes. God damn it. That sounds like something Eli Manning would say as a joke on SNL. I'm Fly Eli. And all the kids laugh at him. Jesus Christ.

Starting point is 02:02:20 Several interviews. What a dipshit. He also talked about how the police were out to get him, the difficulties of being a black athlete in Tampa, and how he was, quote, thrown under the bus by Major League Baseball. Isn't Tampa overwhelmingly black populated, too, though? No, but it's Florida and it's the South. I don't trust any of the South with black people.

Starting point is 02:02:37 That's the only thing I'll believe out of everything he said. Everything else is bullshit. Pinellas County has a very large population of black people. And I'm sure the cops beat the shit out of them on a regular basis but that's fine. That I don't know about. I honestly don't know about that. I don't know if the police are targeting it or not but I do know that. Don't trick daddies

Starting point is 02:02:53 from down there. He talks about being beat by cops doesn't he? Yeah. He's not being thrown under the bus by Major League Baseball. They did everything to sweep his shit under the rug. They did their best to help you you fuck face. They didn't throw him under the bus. They swept him under the rug. It's much better for him.

Starting point is 02:03:07 He says he was blackballed. That is clever, you bastard. Sorry about that. Hey, not bad. He was blackballed, he said, after he – he said that he told team people that people use drugs in hotel rooms and how – he basically was trying to blow everybody up, blow up everybody's spot. And they, you know, they baseball blackballed him for it. So because he's opening his mouth, they're going to— Yeah.

Starting point is 02:03:31 Okay. There's a video on YouTube of him rapping. Oh, my God. I'm not seeing it. It is Two Fly Eli. Two Fly. Two Fly Eli, and it's called Lust. And it is fucking terrible.

Starting point is 02:03:42 Let me tell you something. Oh, boy. At least he picked the right fucking thing to talk about. Yeah, there's a lust, rage, hate. These are just emotions. All of his songs are emotions. Anything that makes children, that's the emotion that I'm going to wrap up. Volatile emotions.

Starting point is 02:03:54 March 3rd, 2011, a sheriff's office report. Jesus Christ. Oh, boy. Says that Duke's pregnant girlfriend, because he's got a pregnant girlfriend. Again? They were staying in a motel for several days with his pregnant girlfriend. Just fucking. Who's a 20-year-old woman.

Starting point is 02:04:12 Yep. They're arguing over money, and she said things turned violent. She is five months pregnant and said Duke slapped her repeatedly in the face. Yeah, I can tell. She said that the baby is his, but according to Duke's sister, that's not possible. Katrina Evans, the one he choked back in the day, said that that's not possible. She said, quote, my brother can't have kids anymore. He's fixed.

Starting point is 02:04:35 Okay. No, he's broken, dear. Yeah. He is super broken. She then went on to say, quote, my brother has nowhere to stay, no income to show for what he did. My mother is still in the hood. He tried, but not hard enough.

Starting point is 02:04:44 That's what she said. You failed. Fuck he did. My mother is still in the hood. He tried, but not hard enough. That's what she said. You failed. Fucked up. My mother's still in the hood. Is that the definition of when you've succeeded? When mom gets out the hood? I think so. Is that what it is? You can get your mom into a better place. She said they were arguing, and Duke slapped her several times in the face. He then went to his mother's

Starting point is 02:05:00 house to get away, and he was arrested without incident. He is arrested on charges of aggravated battery on a pregnant woman and driving with a revoked or suspended license because he drove over there. He's also wanted on a contempt of court charge for child support. He's being held without bond at that point. Jail, at the

Starting point is 02:05:16 time, jail records didn't indicate whether he had an attorney and attorney Grady Irvin Jr. says he no longer represents Dukes. I only represented him when he made a lot of money. I'm done with that fucking guy. I only represent people that can pay me for it. April 25, 2011, Dukes is charged with driving with a suspended or revoked license in Florida. What is he doing?

Starting point is 02:05:34 He is arrested on an exit off Interstate I-75 in Tampa. He's released on a $250 bond. I got a little dyslexic there for a second. May 31st, 2011, he spends his Memorial Day in jail, charged with driving with a suspended or revoked license. Should be. Yes. Near Hillsborough Avenue

Starting point is 02:05:55 and 40th Street at 1.48 a.m. He was arrested. Fucking idiot. He's released that day on $500 bail. That's twice that. Plays in the Dominican League in 2011-12. Really? I wonder if he had two Fly Eli on his jersey. Seven games, two sevens.

Starting point is 02:06:09 No, it was Fly Eli on the back, but there was a number two on it. That's true, yeah. That's a number. Seven games in the Dominican League, 217 with zero home runs. He's done with baseball. February 23, 2012, Tampa police pull over Dukes' orange Chevy Camaro for a traffic stop at Nebraska and Sly Avenues at 1 a.m. again. They approach him in the car. They see flakes of marijuana on his shirt, and they look down, and he has a small bag of weed in his lap.

Starting point is 02:06:39 What he does is he tries to eat the bag of weed in his lap right in front of the cops. He stuffs it into his mouth. is he tries to eat the bag of weed in his lap right in front of the cops. He stuffed it into his mouth. They took it out of his mouth because they said, hey, idiot. Once they got him out of the car and arrested him, they also noticed that he had a blunt,

Starting point is 02:06:52 a rolled blunt behind his right ear. He didn't realize that one. He didn't realize that one. He forgot about that. He forgot about that because he was a little high. Because that's what happens when you get stoned. You forget shit. Yeah, you forget a little shit.

Starting point is 02:07:00 He's charged with tampering with physical evidence, possession of less than 20 grams of cannabis. He looked all over that car for that joint. Oh, you know he did. He was looking everywhere. What did physical evidence, possession of less than 20 grams of cannabis. He looked all over that car for that joint trip. Oh, you know he did. He was looking everywhere. What did I do with that blunt? What did I do with that blunt? Fuck, man.

Starting point is 02:07:09 I lost that shit. Possession of drug paraphernalia and three counts of driving with a suspended license. Yeah. Being held for, or he was released after posting $4,750 bail, which I don't know where the fuck he got that from. November 2012, he's jailed on a contempt of court charge. Jesus. Related to his failure to pay child support.

Starting point is 02:07:30 And January 22nd, 2013, he is arrested on a warrant related to the previous weed charge. He's arrested. He's been charged with an additional count of driving on a suspended license because once they found him, they're like, hey, you're driving and you have this thing, you dummy.

Starting point is 02:07:43 He failed to appear for court related to the February 2012 weed stop. And December 20th, 2013, he is arrested at his home in Brandon, Florida, on a warrant charging him with violation of his probation. This is probation for the trying to eat a bag of weed. So, yes, he was held on that in Hillsborough County Jail without bail for a while. That was 2013. Fingers crossed he's been quiet. He's been quiet since then. Is he in jail?

Starting point is 02:08:14 I don't think he's in jail. He might have been in jail for a while. He might have gotten medication. That's what I'm thinking. In jail or something, they might have said, try this. And he went, oh, fuck, I haven't choked anybody in three weeks. There's no possible way you just figured out how to live. It had to be that or something.

Starting point is 02:08:30 Can't get enough of Elijah Dukes. I sure in the fuck can't. I know I can't. You can get an Elijah Dukes signed baseball on Amazon with certificate of authenticity, $24.99 plus free shipping. Not bad. That's great. Not bad at all. Also, an Elijah Dukes autographed baseball card,

Starting point is 02:08:45 a 2003 Tampa Rays card. It's like a rookie card. It's a minor league thing. $14 plus $3.59 shipping and handling. Holy shit, that's Elijah Dukes. What the fuck? That's a lot of arrests and that took a long time to compile. I can't even imagine. Jesus Christ.

Starting point is 02:09:01 For serious, that's so much. Yeah, that was a lot. Sweet Pete. How many times did he talk to a cop in his life? That's what I said. He should have just joined the force and got a uniform. That is nuts. Because he would have got paid for like half of what he's doing because he's always around

Starting point is 02:09:14 the cops. I can't imagine. And the guy's barely 32 years old right now. That's what I mean. He's been arrested like 35 times. It's crazy. If you like that story, please get on iTunes. Give us five stars for that.

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Starting point is 02:11:11 No, I'm going to kill it this week. I'm four names in and I'm already stumbling. Fucking crushing it this week. Otilia Abraham. Lisa Harbin. Tyler Shaw. Dirk Haley. Or Hallie.

Starting point is 02:11:19 I don't. I think I've done that before on Hallie. It may be Haley. I think that goes from person to person. It sure does. Just like every name. It's ridiculous. Yeah, just like you can call your town Iowa and it's spelled like Iowa.

Starting point is 02:11:32 Yeah, exactly. No last name, just Chris. Spazzy Moonchild, Maddie Finley, Mike Kennedy. Mike Kennedy is terrific, by the way. Yeah, he's great. Thank you. The guy donates every week. He changes it up, too.

Starting point is 02:11:41 We really appreciate that so much. Lindsey Ray, Kelsey Hebert, Jamie Harder, Jonathan Houle. That guy also, too. He's amazing. He's donated so many different ways. And I can't thank you enough, Jonathan. That's so awesome. Thank you.

Starting point is 02:11:53 Adam Hansen, Joe Fascio, and Carrie up in Portland. They're unbelievable. They send me so many emails, not emails, snaps of their dogs. They're terrific young ladies. By the way, real quick, snaps of their dogs. They're terrific young ladies. By the way, real quick, shout out to people. If any of you are in Seattle, we're trying to get to a live show in Seattle. That's the next

Starting point is 02:12:11 one we want to do, next one we want to book. We've contacted several of your venues and clubs. Nobody will fucking return shit. Nothing. I don't know. They don't want to sell out. Maybe it's you guys. I don't understand what it is. Maybe you guys have to do it. Maybe you guys have to hit them up because we don't have an agent and we don't have managers and we don't have that shit.

Starting point is 02:12:27 We do it on our own. We're fucking comedians and we do this shit on our own and we try to keep it in house. Katie Heisel's up there too, the girl that makes our map every week. We don't have anybody to represent us. And a lot of these companies, a lot of these places, even if you can fucking sell out, which we can sell Small Town Murder out pretty much anywhere in the country, I think at this point, they still won't give you the time of goddamn day because the comedy business is fucking disgusting.

Starting point is 02:12:49 And there's no, you know, we don't have a manager. They can then jerk off the next week. That's why. So cut out that middleman, please, and contact your clubs in Seattle and tell them, hey, guess what? We need small town murder. Or Portland, even. Portland, just the Pacific Northwest.

Starting point is 02:13:00 Portland, too, but Seattle because I'm pissed off at them right now because they think they're fucking hot shit and they can't return a fucking call. You know what? We won't sell out your building. I'll put 300 fucking chairs in a field somewhere and we'll go sit there and we won't charge anybody anything. You can fuck yourselves. How's that?

Starting point is 02:13:14 So thank you, Joe. Contact your clubs. Thank you. James Cook, Dita Vasquez, Tiffany Daniels, Kenneth R. Garrity. I want that to be Pat Garrity's cousin or some shit. I don't know. I see Garrity and it's probably spelled differently, but just a cool name. Angel Cantwell.

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Starting point is 02:13:42 Salum. S-A-L-L-O-U-M. Oh, Butel. Craig L. Butel. S-A-L-L-O-U-M. Oh, Butel. Craig L. Butel. B-E-U-T-E-L. U-T-E-L? Yeah. I know that guy. Do you really? Thanks, Craig. I know Craig. Thanks, man. Appreciate it, brother. Thanks, Craig.

Starting point is 02:13:55 Thank you. And did I get it right? Was it Butel? It's Butel, actually, but that's fine. People mispronounce it. He's from Iowa. He wouldn't care. He's very mild. Cassidy Marsh. Ingrid Stalk in Norway with her North Korea bucks yet again. Thank you. That was so cool.

Starting point is 02:14:11 Stephanie Walters-Henriksson. There's no D. It's just Henriksson. Oh, okay. I think that was right. Did I write that right? I hope so. Fuck. Henriksson.

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Starting point is 02:14:49 I love when people listen together. Yeah. Because that's one thing, like, podcasts are a very individual thing. You put your earphones in, you sit there. It's so personal. When people listen together, it's like old-time, like, family sitting around watching TV. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, oh, we're all into the same show.

Starting point is 02:15:01 We're all listening to this. But back then— People don't do that anymore. They don't sit and listen to the radio together. Everything's internalized, your own thing, my pad and my screen. And yeah. So when you're talking about it, that's cool. Thank you, guys.

Starting point is 02:15:14 Kim Hewitt, Katie Johnson, Christina Woog. W-O-O-G. That's a tough one. Yeah, Woog. It's just Woog, right? Woog. I don't know. I don't want to fuck it up.

Starting point is 02:15:23 I don't know. Sarah Stokes, Zach Pearson, Ryan Wroblewski with a W. So Wroblewski. There's a W on the front. Jesus. Does that make sense? Wroblewski? Wroblewski?

Starting point is 02:15:35 Wroblewski. It's a tough one. I'm sure it's not correct. That's got to be a brutal way to go through life. Alisa Goddard. Yeah, Petrogallo. Thank you. Fine.

Starting point is 02:15:43 You're fine, Wrobleluski or whatever your name is. You're doing great. But with a W, that's fucking extra shitty. That's true. That doesn't help any. It just ruins everything. I got a silent W on the front of my name. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 02:15:54 I have an I, so I get it. That's the worst. It's bad. Elisa or Eliza Godinez? Godinez. I think that's what I wrote. The Polish are fucking. Did I say Godinez?

Starting point is 02:16:05 Yeah. No, it's God I wrote. The Polish are fucking. Did I say God and Nooski? Yeah. No, it's God and Nez. What am I doing? I was like, the Polish tonight are coming in full force. Good Lord. So many Poles. I'm eating pierogies later.

Starting point is 02:16:13 Fuck this. Sam Coakley, Jennifer Dedrick, Matt Jarrett, L. Michelle Leatherman. L. Michelle? It must be like Lynn or Lisa or something. I don't know. L. Michelle Leatherman. Liam Feltman. Naima. Naima Shea. I think it's Naima. Michelle Leatherman. Liam Feltman. Naima. Naima Shea.

Starting point is 02:16:27 I think it's Naima. N-A-I-M-A. That's Naima, right? Naima Shea. Jillian. Jesus. Anderson. And in my head, I say Hernandez.

Starting point is 02:16:35 How does that even happen? How do you even do that? I have no idea how you put those together. Jillian Anderson. Slate. Annette Wright. Sean Hoxie. S-H-E-A-N, Sean.

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Starting point is 02:17:13 I don't know if it's great or if it sucks. It's great because Laycock sounds fucking great. It's all of what you make. It's what you make of it, honestly, I think. Siren Johnsgar, she also sent some North Korea bucks from Norway. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Daryl L. Emily Irvin, Shannon Ruger, Jonathan Desmond, Megan

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Starting point is 02:17:59 Yeah, thank you so much. Michael Neal, another one. Thank you so much. Cat Lady Created. I don't know what that is. I think that much. You guys are – Cat Lady Created. I don't know what that is. I think that's a business. So Google Cat Lady Created and buy her shit. Hannah Just, Melissa Hoover, ARRB.

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Starting point is 02:18:30 Uh-huh. Rental Breakfasts? I don't know. Boulevard. Right, something like that. Candice Horner, Kelsey Perkins, Arlene So, Anna Schwartz. Thank you so much also. That was a nice donation.

Starting point is 02:18:42 Yes, thank you. Dana Losey, Sarah Gilbo donated twice today. Thank you, Sarah. Wow, thank you, Sarah. Molly Parker. Stacey Huffaker again. I guess she donated twice. I didn't even – I'm an asshole.

Starting point is 02:18:51 That's so nice. Thank you. Thank you, Stacey. Teresa Shufu – little plug. Did you see that one? Yeah. S-C-H-E-U-C-H-E-N-P-F-L-U-G. Nope.

Starting point is 02:19:01 Fuck that name. Fuck that name. That's a good one. She wrote me and told me – because she donated before and told me that I completely fucked it. And I said, listen. Jesus. You give that to anybody, they're going to fuck it. Nobody's going to make that right.

Starting point is 02:19:12 I wonder what the percentage of people that have ever gotten that right is. Zero. Fucking her. That's it. Her grandmother. Shush and flug. I don't know. Dulcy Thompson.

Starting point is 02:19:20 Dulcy Thompson. Michael Euler. He's on Twitter, too. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate you, brother. Stephen Mace, Jeremy Ramon, Marika Sand or Marika? It may be Marika. I know people did pronounce it like that.

Starting point is 02:19:32 It's two Ks, though, in Marika. It's Marika. Marika Sand. Jane Richards. I'm fucking wrong. She's going, he's a fucking dipshit. Jane Richards, Katie Miranda, Majolene? Majol Miranda, Majolene, Majolene, Majolene Spitzy?

Starting point is 02:19:49 Wow. Okay. Nope. Probably not. And Matt Kleeman sent a nice donation too. Matt, thank you all so much. Thank you, everybody. Those people are amazing. Thank you guys so much. You save our lives as you make

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Crime in Sports - #97 - His Strangles Know No Bounds - The Hostileness of Elijah Dukes

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