Crime in Sports - #98 - Violent Lives Bring Violent Deaths - The Ferociousness of Edwin Valero... LIVE from Chicago!!
Episode Date: December 18, 2017This week, we are LIVE in Chicago at Lincoln Hall, where we are overwhelmed with violence, as we look at a man, so full of rage that not even boxing was enough to get out his aggressions. He ...started young, and only got worse. From motorcycle riding robberies, to violence, assault, and finally a bloody & horrific murder. And thats not even the final, pathetic chapter. This one is wild & crazy, so strap in, and get ready!!Look for street fights from a young age, never wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle, and after you kill someone, make sure not to deny it, with Edwin Valero!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at...patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGet all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.comFor Tickets To Upcoming Live Shows...BOSTON: Feb 18Crime In Sports:https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1589056?_ga=2.84751449.1576137293.1510029131-53581790.1510029128&__utma=1.876925325.1510029128.1510029128.1510029128.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1510029128&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1510029128.1.1.utmcsr=yahoo|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=255437192Small Town Murderhttps://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1589061?_ga=2.53771112.1576137293.1510029131-53581790.1510029128&__utma=1.876925325.1510029128.1510029128.1510029128.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1510029128&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1510029128.1.1.utmcsr=yahoo|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=255437192DETROIT: Feb 16Stand Up Show w/ Dan Cumminshttps://www.ticketweb.com/event/dan-cummins-james-pietragallo-the-magic-bag-tickets/7823825?pl=magicbagCheck out or site: truecrimecomedyteam.comAll web support by Web and Writerwebandwriter.com or Facebook.com/webandwriterContact us on...twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/crimeinsports  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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let's get started tonight with our our star of the week yeah shall we let's we'll call him this week
edwin valero i have no fucking no that is no idea who that is, Jimmy. There you go. Oh, that guy. It's not that guy, actually.
It's that guy.
There you go.
Edwin Valero.
Look at him.
What the fuck is that?
He's a boxer.
He looks like a little trollish, right?
He looks like that.
Yeah.
So you know that little video online, the little guy that dances and then the guy presses
stop?
That's what he looks like.
Yeah, kind of.
Everybody in the room is now going to search for that.
They're all going to be on that.
Google it.
It's a great story.
Yeah, he looks like an Incan they brought back from the past and put gloves on him.
That's the guy that stops chiseling the calendar.
Yeah, yeah.
Fuck it.
He's like, I'm not Mayan, Jimmy.
Jesus Christ.
Ladies and gentlemen, my co-host, Andrew Jackson, everybody.
I love it.
I love it so much.
He's actually known as El Inca because he is an Incan warrior.
And Dinamita, which is dynamite in Spanish.
Of course.
So that's what he is there, which is kind of like a Mike Tyson ripoff, I feel like.
This dude's a badass, guys.
I'm telling you right now.
This dude is a badass.
The badass restarted on December 3rd, 1981.
All the way in Meridia, Venezuela.
He's younger than me.
He's younger than you.
He's younger than both of us.
Meridia, Venezuela.
You've been there, Jimmy?
Been there.
Been there.
You love it?
Terrible.
It's a good place.
I've never been.
No, me neither.
It's terrible.
It's a horrible dictatorship and it's an awful place.
That's what I assume.
And he's super into that, too.
We'll get into this.
It is a dictatorship.
Oh, yeah.
Hugo Chavez.
All right.
I don't know that. You don't know anything. Okay. We'll get into this. It is a dictatorship. Oh, yeah. Hugo Chavez. All right. I don't know that.
You don't know anything.
Okay.
We're educating Jimmy in both sports, geopolitical things, everything here.
This kid grew up tough.
Venezuela is not the most affluent country out there, really.
He was right in the middle of it here.
Basically, he's immediately fighting on the street.
That's what he does.
He's a street fighter.
He's robbing people.
He's got a great...
Good family life?
No, no, no.
What do you think, Jimmy?
Out of all of our guys,
we got about a 10% good family life ratio on this bad boy?
Venezuela, I figure, is just a down-home country place.
Yeah.
Down-home country place.
That's where Beaver...
It's upsetting to leave it to Beaver, right?
Yes.
That's where Cracker Barrel is based out of there, Jimmy.
That's where it is right there.
They make great rocking chairs.
Yeah, absolutely.
Venezuela, and it was even worse then, but now poverty in Venezuela is between 35% and 65%.
So it is poor.
That shit is poor.
The homicide rate in Venezuela is 88 homicides per 100,000.
It's like two here. It's terrible. They're just gunning people per 100,000. It's like two here.
It's terrible.
They're just gunning people down in the streets.
It's awful.
He would tell people.
He ends up coming to the States to box.
We'll get to that later.
But he would tell people about his childhood and about he would hang out with motorcycle gangs and steal shit.
And he was just like a thief on the streets.
Great.
And just being like, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe that's what you do in Venezuela.
I like him.
Maybe that's like joining Little League there. I don't know. I'm's what you do in Venezuela. My man. I like him. Maybe that's like joining Little League there.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I've never been there.
You get a nickname and a scooter.
That's it.
Here you go.
Yeah.
Here you go.
Dina, me took it out there and punched some people and delivered this.
His father, Domingo, was a truck driver.
His mother is Maria Eloisa.
That's a nice name right there.
Not bad at all.
He had a two-bedroom house that he grew up in with his parents and four siblings.
Five kids, two parents,
two-bedroom house. That is
a lot. It's bigger than my house.
Two-bedroom? It was a trailer.
Oh, a trailer. Was it divided into
rooms at least? One fucking room and
then somewhere where my mom and my dad
made more kids.
And where were you? One of the
kids. One of the kids?
You popped out?
And then my dad left.
Slept at the foot of the bed?
Is that what you did there?
So it worked out great.
That's good.
That's excellent.
That's a different show.
That is not the right one.
I am a mess right now.
I have no idea how to work this fucking thing.
They love this behind the scenes shit.
This is awful.
This is not how this normally works.
This never happens.
This is not how this works. I've got to find in their own words. I don't know where it shit. This is awful. This is not how this normally works. This is not how this works.
I got to find in their own words.
I don't know where it is.
That's not it.
That's not it.
What do we got here?
It is my favorite music.
It's a fucking nightmare.
That was good.
How do I get out of here?
That was so good.
Hey.
There we go.
There we go.
There's some...
Yeah.
In their own words, quote,
I did not have a normal childhood.
It was work, work, work.
I gave my mother everything I earned.
We had barely enough to eat.
The only sport I ever played until I was 10 was marbles.
There was never time.
Is that a sport?
Marbles.
Apparently marbles is a sport.
By your definition, marbles is not a fucking sport.
I don't think it is.
But I think he was...
He's sadly mistaken.
Yeah, what are you going to do?
It's still going.
Stop. Stop. It's over fuckers uh his mom was a dishwasher his dad left at nine of course uh of course yeah
so he guess he dropped out of school at nine i didn't think that was even possible like in any
country you know what i mean like you're nine fuck it do we have to go pro at marbles i guess
that's true that's a big there's a big circuit down there it's pretty crazy it's cutthroat down
there it's tough that's where all the homicide rate comes from it's all it's marble gang on
marble gang killings it's rough by whatever the fuck you're taking in it's it's the truth man
uh at 12 years old he was homeless yeah uh he's living on the streets in venezuela uh not too
not too good obviously that's a bad situation for sure he's he fights on the streets in Venezuela. Not too good, obviously. That's a bad situation.
For sure.
He fights on the street.
He's just a crazy street fighter.
He's not afraid of anybody.
His first sports really came with taekwondo.
He got into taekwondo at 13.
Yeah.
But he didn't have enough money to keep continuing the classes. I was just going to ask that.
How do you pay for lessons to do that shit?
That was the problem.
They kicked his ass out.
No, they said, get the fuck out of here.
You can't do that.
All right.
So he got a job at a bicycle shop.
That'll do it.
There you go. You can steal bikes. And the right. So he got a job at a bicycle shop. That'll do it. There you go.
You can steal bikes.
The owner of the bicycle shop was a former boxer.
Gotcha.
Here we go.
All right.
He sees that this kid, Edwin, is a rageful little shithead.
Yeah, he's angry.
For sure.
He's an angry little fuck.
He's got a lot of rage.
He's tiny, too.
He's a little 5'6".
He's 135 pounds.
He's a tiny guy.
You claim to be 5'7".
He claims 5'7". I'm 5'8". You are not 5'8". I swear to Christ. I swear to Christ. He is not tiny guy. You claim to be 5'7". He claims 5'7".
You are not 5'8".
He is not 5'8".
I swear.
We will get a measuring tape at this fucking show out in the lobby.
I will measure you.
You're not 5'8".
You know it.
Neither here nor there.
So he gets into boxing.
So what he would do, he ended up moving into the boxing gym.
He just lived there.
That sounds great.
Which is great if you're a kid like that.
She's better than being at home with my wife. She's washing dishes pissed off because dad's gone. That's the just lived there. That sounds great. Which is great if you're a kid like that. It's better than being at home with my wife while she's washing dishes
pissed off because dad's gone. That's the truth
right there. So
he's fighting on the streets the whole time and he's
getting into gangs, of course, too. That's the thing, too.
He's got to fight gangs and motorcycle
gangs. There was like thief
motorcycle gangs, which sounds like an awesome movie,
doesn't it? Like a gang of ten. Fuck Vin Diesel.
This sounds much better. Especially because
they're 12. That'd be even better.
A gang of 12-year-old motorcycle thieves.
That would be amazing.
The size of Mickey Rourke at 12 years old, though.
That's perfect.
Same face.
Grizzled smoke.
Same face.
Got the voice.
Son of bitches.
Do that here.
So he becomes a boxer very quickly.
At around the same time, though, about 12, 13, that he starts boxing, he also gets into
cocaine, which is, of course, obviously.
Once again, plenty of progression.
It's a natural progression.
We are talking about like late 80s, early 90s South America.
So I think cocaine was, you know, it was like sweet and low.
One day you're playing marbles.
It's just on the table.
How do you take your coffee?
Rocks in it?
You like rocks?
Okay.
One day you're playing marbles and you're like can we grind these down?
Let's grind this down.
Yeah, let's do this up here.
But he gets
he's good though.
It doesn't matter.
In all this
Fucking sweet and low?
What?
Go on.
Cocaine.
The sweet and low
of South America.
Perfect.
There we go.
I think we found
a t-shirt, folks.
Let's do that.
Let me see.
Come into it.
Oh my God, man. Oh's do that. What do you say? Come into it. Oh, my God, man.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
So he's living at the boxing gym.
Oscar Ortega is training him.
He's this guy.
He said he lived constantly in the streets with, quote, bad groups.
Yeah.
But in the ring, though, he's in the ring.
He's got it together.
Sure.
This is the thing.
He's a huge star amateur.
He wins a national championship at 15, which is like the Golden Gloves down there, sure this is a thing he's a he's a huge star amateur he wins a national championship at 15 which is like the golden gloves down there for lack of a better term and then
again twice in 1996 so i mean he's he's amateur wise he's a badass fire in 1998 i'm sorry he's a
badass fighter uh he says that about uh when he's talking he had about a group of 30 friends that he
hung out with and uh he said quote they were all killed by the police or their enemies.
Wow.
Chicago's familiar.
Yeah.
We've been there.
We've been there.
Yeah.
They know what's up there.
There's a black guy or two in here going, yeah, go on, go on.
They're like Meridia.
That's on the south side, right?
That's over.
It's right down there.
It's Lakeshore.
You hear what I'm saying?
He's like, well, in that world, you dealt drugs, stole, or worked as a hitman.
Okay.
That's great.
Boxing is what saved me.
Not really, as we'll get into later, but that's okay.
For now.
For now.
He wasn't killed by his enemies anyway, so that's good.
I trained hard and never once used drugs or even smoked a cigarette.
What a pussy.
He actually was doing tons of cocaine before.
That was full of shit.
That was for like a Venezuelan fluff piece in like 98, literally.
By the way, this whole thing, I don't know if you guys know this,
but a South American dictatorship, kind of a shitty media situation down there.
Real difficult finding a lot of this shit.
Oh, I'm sure.
It's not easy, so you really had to kind of...
The police are killing everybody.
They don't want that shit in the news.
What nice thing is, later on, his family starts ratting him out for a bunch of cool shit.
So we got a bunch of good information.
But he's at the gym with Ortega every afternoon for hours.
He ate his meals at this guy's house.
This guy just took him in.
It was surrogate father action, which, good God.
How many of these people have we talked about that could have used this?
Could have used a silver-haired, middle-aged white man that wasn't using them and ruining them.
Was actually helping them. Somebody he was actually lending a hand.
Exactly. Yeah, that's the thing here.
He said basically that's all he had.
If it wasn't for Ortega, if it wasn't for the gym,
he was on his own. He said,
quote, I had the keys to the gym and when there was no tournaments
pending, I often slept there. Nobody was watching
me. Look, he says, these are all
tooth marks. I like to get in street fights.
He's got scars all up and down
his arm
from people biting him.
What the fuck?
Cocaine makes you bite people.
It's like crocodile.
Is that like that movie
with the Brazilian dancing, fighting?
Remember that?
Is that part of it?
Is that the Venezuelan part?
That's bananas.
He fights in the streets.
It's like fighting with an ex-wife fight.
That's crazy.
Yeah, a bad divorce, too.
That's like fighting with my ex-wife.
Jimmy knows the behind the scenes there.
That's funny.
So anyway, he's always there.
He's just doing that sort of thing.
He begins holding up students at the colleges at gunpoint.
This is, you know,
that's what you do when you're a kid, I think, right?
And you do that to me.
I can't even think about having that thought.
That's fucking amazing.
He rides up on a motorcycle and says, give me all your money.
He's 16.
Maybe 16.
And then he'd just fight them for some reason.
Hopefully they don't bite him, I guess.
But the cops were watching him, actually,
because he was doing a lot of shit,
more than he, you know, kind of didn't stand to the radar
like he might have.
Like that would have been the smart thing to do.
So what he did is, one day he's leaving the gym
and he's got a stolen motorcycle,
and as he's riding away, the cops pick him up.
And there's that.
He's been arrested before, but this is the first time
he's actually going to spend time in jail.
He spent six months in jail.
And he could have got up to ten years,
but he was a minor,
so he had six months.
So he's actually very, very lucky
at this point here.
Through all this,
he's still fighting.
It's like last...
Oh, yeah, by the way,
he's a boxer, too.
He's still fighting.
So he's doing this.
He's still fighting.
As an amateur,
his amateur record is 86-6.
Holy shit.
Yes, with 57 or 45 knockouts, depending on who you talk to.
My Christ.
Venezuelan record-keeping on amateur boxing isn't what it needs to be, I don't think.
Very upset about that.
He's a lefty, too, which helps him a lot.
I mean, Southpaws, that's really helpful for boxing, throws everything off.
He wins three straight Venezuelan amateur championships.
He's a featherweight quarterfinalist in the second America's Olympic qualifier in Tijuana, Mexico.
Second America?
Is that what they're calling Venezuela now?
I think they're calling it South America.
It's like Chicago's second city.
They're like, we're second America.
They're okay with that.
He ends up losing a decision to Enrique Perez of Argentina.
He's a featherweight silver medalist in the third America's Olympic qualifier in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
There's a lot of Americas.
This is fucking amazing.
Canada counts, too, I think.
I don't know.
He defeated Zaya Yunan of Canada.
He's the third America.
That's the fourth America.
He defeated Daniel Jimenez of the Dominican Republic, 13-9.
Defeated Wilfredo Renderos. I know you have a poster up in your room. He sounds Daniel Jimenez of the Dominican Republic, 13-9. Defeated Wilfredo
Renderos, so I know you have a poster up
in your room since childhood.
He wins, he loses
to Vladimir,
or Valdemir,
Valdemir Pereira
of Brazil.
As you guys know, if you've donated
anything to us, you know he's destroyed your name.
So, butchered it. Just butchered it. Thank you guys know, if you donated anything to us, you know he's destroyed your name. So, butchered it.
Just butchered it.
Thank you, Austin Smythe.
It's Smith, Jimmy. Come on down.
No, my favorite was
Pamela.
You mean
Pamela, Jimmy?
Her too?
What about her? Does she have any say in this?
Ah, Christ, I'm retarded.
A little bit, but that's okay.
That's fine here.
I wrote it.
That's the most embarrassing part.
It's not like somebody
scribbled the doctor handwriting.
I wrote the shit down and said Pamela
and then out of my mouth said Pamela.
You had a look on your face too like,
I don't know what this word is.
That was the scary part.
It looked like when you put a medical term
in front of yourself.
It was like, oh no.
Pamela? Pamela?
Pamela?
You're like that kid in Billy Madison.
Today, dude.
Exactly.
Exactly.
God damn it.
Oh my God.
So, he...
But he's boxing.
He just misses the 2000 Olympics.
Just misses the 2000 Olympic Games.
No, he's in it, correct?
Sydney Olympics, absolutely.
Losing to...
We've had several athletes in those Olympics, too.
Yeah.
He loses to the guy whose name I couldn't pronounce from Brazil.
He wins the 2000 Central...
Vladimir was from Brazil?
Valdemir.
Oh, okay.
Valdemir.
I don't know.
Perriera.
Got it.
I will say.
He wins the 2000 Central American and Caribbean Featherweight Championships in Caracas.
So that's good.
Caracas, Venezuela.
He defeats Garibaldi.
His name is Garibaldi with a Y and everything.
Garibaldi Keller.
Oh, that poor fuck.
That's awesome.
I hope he has a full head of hair or else he's really depressed.
Just killing it.
And then he defeats Francisco Bojado, who ends up being
that is not Francisco Bojado.
That is Francisco Bojado here.
He defeats him, the one
punching, not the one taking the punch.
He was actually a Venezuelan
national amateur champion and
Central and South American. Does he have a man bun?
No, no. He just has hair flopping
mid-punch. I was just
really hating him a lot
For the man butt?
I fucking hate that so much
It's because of this shit
It's just jealousy
It's just jealousy, that's all it is
It's just 100% envy, that's all it is
Not douchebag?
No, not at all
So he ends up
I've lived that lifestyle, that's what I'm saying I would absolutely live Fuck yes No, not at all. So he ends up...
I've lived that lifestyle.
That's what I'm saying.
I would absolutely live...
Fuck yes.
Absolutely.
Rub it in the face of bald dudes.
It's clearly superior.
It's not bad.
It's not bad.
So you want the man bun.
Yeah.
All right.
This shit is my mom's fault
for buying that herbal essence shampoo.
Really?
When you were nine?
She was not coming in the shower, you guys.
That was her losing her fucking hair.
That's what all the noise that woman was making.
Oh, oh, oh, no.
Your hair's falling out.
Stop that.
Hold on a second.
It's cheating.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let's take one.
Let's take a break there for one second.
I need a clarification.
I was a little confused by that.
I don't know if everybody else was, too.
So your hair...
So you lost your hair out of stress
from your mom's orgasmic shampoo reaction?
Or the shampoo was shitty
and it made you lose your hair?
The shampoo is cheap shit shampoo.
And my mom would buy it
because it wasn't tested on animals.
Maybe we should test the fucking mouse.
That's all I'm saying.
Because it makes their kids bald. I don't Maybe we should test a fucking mouse. That's all I'm saying. Because it makes their kids bald.
I don't give a fuck about a bald mouse.
That's what I'm telling you.
I don't give a fuck about bald me.
No, you should.
So I would live that douchey lifestyle
with a man bun.
Someday, Jimmy. We're going to hook you up.
We'll get you a nice wig or some propicia or both and we'll get this together. I need a yarmulke with one man bun. Someday, Jimmy. We're going to hook you up. We'll get you a nice wig or some propicia or both
and we're going to hook us together.
I need a yarmulke with one on it.
That's what I need.
To cover the balls behind.
So you'd be Jewish and a douche.
A Mongolian Jew. That's what I want to be.
That's what you'd look like, too.
You'd look like the old wrestler Killer Khan
for anybody who's...
Yeah, there you go.
One guy's like, fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Jimmy's going to be spitting the green mist at people anytime now.
Yeah, that's right.
God damn it.
So Francisco Bejado is the Mexican representative at the 2000 Olympic Games.
So, you know, no sweat.
And he beats him.
Valero beats this guy.
So he's not too bad.
We have a quote here from a writer from The Ring.
And he talks about the way Valero is.
And he says, quote, I saw him train about three times before I ever saw him spar, and I was immediately awed by him.
He says, the first time I saw him train, just go through the stations in this really cramped gym and watching him skip rope and go from a double end bag to a speed bag to a heavy bag and shadow boxing.
His intensity set him apart from most professional fighters that you saw. And then I saw
him spar, and my God, he was having an easy
time with guys he shouldn't have been having an easy time with.
He just came, for sure.
That was a slow stroke
if I've ever heard one.
That was amazing.
I could have played video, but it's like
for the people, you guys would be reacting
to video, and I have no idea what the fuck's going on.
So I didn't. But yeah, he
kicks some ass. He hits so hard. You know how idea what the fuck's going on. So I didn't. But yeah, he kicks some ass.
He hits so hard.
You know how you see the little guys fight and they just pepper each other for 12 rounds?
He will knock your ass out quickly as we'll get into here.
Professional career here.
Like we said, he did not get in the 2000 Olympics.
He also had a little problem in 2000 here.
He misses the Olympics.
So you think right there he's disappointed.
Sure.
Not great.
So then he gets back.
He's in Venezuela.
He's disappointed.
Playing marbles.
He takes the wrong bus.
Oh, no.
In returning to his hometown after he was beaten in the trials for the Olympics.
And he's robbed at gunpoint.
So this must be a change for him.
Sure.
He's probably a 12-year-old on a motorcycle.
He's like, you're fucking doing it wrong.
First of all, you're messing this all up.
So they robbed him of everything, too.
They took his money, his passport,
and even his silver medal that he just won
at the ball of ice.
What are you going to do with that?
Become a criminal forever now.
For sure.
Well, now you look like a champion criminal, too.
They robbed him of his silver.
He's got to pay taxes on that.
I don't know if it's done as well.
They're going to say, pay taxes.
Then you're going to go, no.
It probably wasn't even real silver.
It's probably like a Hershey's Kiss.
It's aluminum, for sure.
At one point, there's a contract out on his life
for any number of reasons.
Fuckery abounds down there.
He's robbing people.
Who knows how many people he's pissed off robbing.
So thankfully for him, though,
the hitman was a friend of his.
See, this is the advantage of having scumbag friends.
If someone is hired to kill me,
I'll never know it unless it's you.
And no one's going to hire you to kill me.
They'd be like, you're just going to go up mean? And no one's going to hire you to kill me. Jesus Christ.
They'd be like,
you're just going to
go up and giggle.
He's going to know
you're coming
and he's going to escape.
They're going to give me
a card with your name on it
and I'm going to go,
I don't know how to spell
or pronounce that.
Oh, shit.
God damn.
Find this man.
I can't pronounce that.
What town is that?
I don't know.
His mother described
his friends as,
quote,
really bad.
They robbed and killed people.
That's how they described it.
So obviously.
Right.
So obviously.
And there's the police, too.
Now, February 5th, 2001, he has a little bit of a problem, does Edwin.
He gets in a severe, and I mean severe, motorcycle accident.
Really?
Because he's always riding around in a motorcycle.
You think he's wearing a helmet?
No.
God damn it, no.
This guy is just careening toward brain damage as quickly as possible.
Sure.
Like, punch me in the head,
and then I'm going to fall off a motorcycle.
I don't need a fucking helmet.
I don't care.
He's doing this.
He's going 50 miles an hour,
and he crashed into the back of a car.
So anybody who's ever ridden a bicycle
knows what happens there.
You fly off head first.
He landed 20 feet away,
and pretty much...
Was the car parked?
Yeah.
Well, it stopped.
He ran into the back of it,
50 miles an hour.
I was thinking, like,
just trying to pass him.
No, no, no.
And they're doing like 40.
It shot his body 20 feet.
So his head was stopped and physics kicked in.
And he landed on his head.
And he had a watermelon on his head.
Yeah, that didn't work at all.
So yeah, he suffers cerebral hemorrhage and a fractured skull.
Sweet fuck.
Not good for a boxer, really.
Those aren't the things you want for a boxer.
You want to have good hands and a head that's not broken in three different places.
He's in the hospital for 13 days.
13, which is a lot.
Down there, you have to die to get in there.
Yes, he dies.
Good night, everybody.
It's been a pleasure having you.
It's been great.
Thanks for having us here.
He comes back.
All he wants to do is box, because what the hell else is he going to do?
Rob people and do more coke? I don't even know. He has a fractured fucking skull and still wants to fight. Oh, wants to do is box because what the hell else is he going to do? Rob people and do more coke
and I don't even know.
He has a fractured fucking skull
and he still wants to fight.
Oh, he's going to box.
Sweet piece.
Are you shitting me?
He takes about a year and a half off
but I don't know.
Apparently it takes a year and a half
for a skull to heal.
I don't know.
But that's what it is.
He said,
and this is from Oscar De La Hoya here
who later knows him.
He says,
oh yeah,
he says,
quote,
he never gave up on himself
or his own career,
but he was frustrated with his promoter, which
was the then-fledgling Golden Boy Promotions,
which he's talking about that. He says,
Anytime the interview
De La Hoya, I picture him
walking away from the interview, and he's just
wearing his asses out and fishnets,
and he's just walking in high heels,
clip-clopping away. Yeah, that's true.
And he's like, true. He was amazing.
But from the camera, he had a sport jacket
and tie on, a nice open-collared dress shirt.
His balls are just back between his legs.
Like a dog walking away.
That's what I did.
It's perfect, man.
So now he's got no boxing,
but he's trying to stay on the straight and narrow
somewhat. He's still doing shit loads of coke.
Of course.
Come on.
Let's not get crazy here.
Dunk coke is fucking amazing.
Keep going.
He's doing odd jobs.
He's working odd jobs.
Who knows what he's doing here.
He's broke as shit.
So he enlists in the army.
Yeah.
That's normal, right?
That's what I'm going to do.
Yeah.
So now he's going to debut in the army here.
He does that.
It doesn't work out. No. March 2002, he's going to debut in the Army here. He does that. It doesn't work out.
March 2002, he's in the Army.
And now he says within three months,
he had about two or three fistfights with fellow soldiers
and was dishonorably just discharged.
Quoting him, quote, they kicked me out.
Well, no shit.
You can't fight people.
You're supposed to fight the outside world,
not the other people with you.
So about finally, after a year and a half,
the doctors in Venezuela, who are you, I believe,
as a medical training of you, clear him to fight.
Of course.
So they basically knocked him on the head three times.
They were like, yep, sounds like a cantaloupe.
Get on in there.
So he gets out there.
And on July 9, 2002...
Goddamn cantaloupe.
All right.
He knows how to get the ripeness.
He knows what's up.
They just felt it, man.
Like, it feels like an avocado.
Mostly perfect.
Well, the problem was,
two months earlier,
they said, not quite.
Right.
Got to ripen up a little bit,
and then they sent him out there.
So July 9th 2002
he finally makes his
pro debut
at the Parque
Naciones
Unidas
in Caracas
Venezuela
I think I said
at least one of those words
at least one of them
he fights
Eduardo Hernandez
we do not have a picture
of him because
he has an 0-2
career record
he doesn't do very much
was this fight 1 or 2?
this is his last fight.
He said, that's enough of this shit.
He got beat up in the first one.
He's like, maybe it was a fluke.
No, no, no.
For sure, I suck at this.
I am not a good fighter.
This is terrible.
I hope my wife doesn't cheat on me
because I'm fucked.
Especially with one of these guys.
With Valero, I think, yeah.
So this is a TKO in round one
pretty quick, under a minute.
That's a fast one here.
Now, I found out boxing we always talk about is dangerous.
This is an odd stat I found out.
That horse riding.
That's dangerous as fuck, by the way.
Don't fuck with her.
She'll kill you.
Horse riding.
It's true.
Horse riding is 128 times more fatalities per 100,000 participants than boxing.
Sweet fuck.
That makes sense, though.
128 times more.
That's Christopher Reeves.
Don't agree with that.
That's probably true.
He's alive, though.
He's alive.
This is fatalities, damn it.
He's not now,
is my point.
Is he dead?
Yeah.
He's been dead for...
Is Christopher Reeves dead?
Yeah.
All right, fuck,
I don't know.
Are you shitting me?
How the fuck do I care
if Superman died?
That James didn't know.
And his wife died
of lung cancer. That I knew. I didn't know what he died of, but I don't care if Superman died? That James didn't know. And his wife died of lung cancer.
That I knew.
I didn't know
he died though.
But I don't care really.
The horse got him
eventually.
Past Superman 2
I really lost interest
in anything that had to do
with Christopher Reeve.
It didn't really matter.
So September 23rd, 2003
he's in Caracas.
He fights Danny Sandoval
who's a 2 and 8 career fighter.
Yeah.
And two of those losses
are to Valero.
Wow.
Out of 10 fights he fought one dude twice. Yes. And Sando those losses are to Valero. Wow. Because he...
Out of ten fights
he fought one dude
twice.
Yes.
And Sandoval
fights him twice
in a row.
Which I don't
understand because
he gets knocked
out in the first
round both times.
Hold on.
I got to try
that again.
That is not a
healthy reminder.
That's awesome.
It's like someone
with terrible balance
getting on a skateboard
and they fall down
and they're like
no no one more time
I can do this.
No, no, I'm awful.
I can't do any of this shit.
October 26th, the next month, they come fast and furious.
Centro Recreacional yesterday.
I don't know what that is.
In Turmero, Venezuela.
That's a Spanish word?
You know what?
Yesterday?
Yesterday, yes.
It's exactly what it is.
Especial yesterday.
Yesterday.
What the fuck?
Yesterday.
You say it in an accent, Jimmy.
It is versus Al Rio El Moracho Rivero.
So that's a lot of O's there.
There's the fucking Spanish word for yesterday, because there's one for tomorrow, right?
Mañana.
That's tomorrow, correct?
That's tomorrow.
What's yesterday?
Fuck it.
Yesterday, I guess.
I don't know.
I just learned it's yesterday.
Clearly it's yesterday, Jimmy.
What do you think?
Because they put it in there.
Otherwise, they'd have said the Spanish one.
This guy here is 3-1 coming in,
21-9-1 in his career.
Edwin, again,
knocks him out
in the first round.
All right.
So are we keeping track?
He's a tough dude.
First fucking round.
November 18th, next month,
in Caracas,
he fights Luis Soto,
the ex-second baseman
for the New York Yankees.
Who's actually Venezuelan,
so it might be him.
I'm not sure.
Actually, 2002,
he was on the Yankees,
so I'm pretty sure it's on him.
He's from Colombia also, this particular one. This guy is sure. Actually, 2002 he was on the Yankees, so I'm pretty sure it's on him. He's from Columbia also,
this particular one.
This guy is an 0-7 career fighter.
What?
Come on.
Seriously.
There's so many of these guys out there
where you're like,
this guy was 1-30.
What is he doing?
Remember the one guy we had
who was like,
he was like 21-256?
Holy shit.
Why?
If you worked at Papa John's
and you burnt seven pizza in a row,
Papa John's would be like,
get the fuck out, for real.
You're costing me my better pizza.
He got that hit after seven.
It should have been six.
It should have been two.
Papa should have stepped in there
a little fucking earlier
and got this shit going.
So this is his second to last fight.
He loses in the first round here.
This is his sixth loss in a row.
No wins.
Gets knocked down in the first round.
He goes, one more time.
I'm not done yet. Fuck this.
November 18, 2002.
Caracas again. I'm sorry.
November 30, 2002 in Caracas.
He fights Julio Pineda, who was an 0-3 fighter
to his last fight again.
He's just giving him a bunch of pussies. That's what it is, man.
Knocks him out in the first round.
Now, at this point, too,
he's got a wife.
He's got a nice young wife named Jennifer Carolina,
or Carolina Vieira.
And she says that he begins
to grow angry
and edgy
and sullen
and just brain damaged.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very brain damaged.
You know.
That's exactly what I...
He's just staring at a wall and he's like, he's so angry. No, he's not. He can't fucking... He doesn't know where he is. He's just staring at a wall
and he's so angry.
No, he's not.
He doesn't know where he is.
That's what it is.
He's sullen.
He's not angry at all.
He just pissed his pants.
That's not sullen.
He's very confused.
He's more like it.
Very confused.
So he says that
a reporter says that
his wife,
he quote,
I never saw her smile.
She looks like she's being held
fucking hostage half the time.
I'm dead serious.
That's not her.
That's not his wife right there.
Okay.
But he's, it's literally,
it's literally like they're,
like he's holding her hostage
all the time, this person here.
The wait is over.
So far, you're not losing.
The only thing you're losing is my patience.
Quickly, I see that.
Bing!
The queen of the courtroom is back.
I didn't do anything.
You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face.
I see he's not intimidated by anything.
I can fix that.
New cases.
She wanted to fight me.
Leave her alone.
Okay, so, um...
This is not a so.
This is a period.
Classic Judy.
Did you sleep with her?
Yes, Your Honor.
You married his cousin.
His brother.
That's not him.
Yes, ma'am.
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july 19th 2003 at the activity center in maywood california holy shit his first u.s fight look at
that the first america the first america He's an American. The real one.
The one that, I don't know.
The real one, he says.
Is it the real one?
I think there's a lot, but that's all right.
We'll fuck him.
I'll give you that.
It's the real America here.
But he's going, it's California,
so they wouldn't call it,
so I was going to play,
other people wouldn't call that the real America.
Right.
Everything's named after Spanish people
or Spanish things there anyway.
Exactly. This is Maywood, California. It's the first fight in the U.S. He fights Emmanuel Ford. call that the real right everything's named after spanish people or in spanish things anyway exactly
uh this is maywood california it's the first fight in the u.s he fights emmanuel ford who is an
american punching bag who is 6 27 3 lifetime that is fucking terrible that is terrible 6 27 and then
there was a couple of draws hey what the fuck we're not he says uh this is a round one knockout
obviously and uh he says about this whole round one knockout obviously and he says
about this whole thing
his boxing
how he is
let's find out
from Edwin
what he thinks
about himself
and what he's doing here
in their own words
quote
yay
hey
I don't know
how to relax
even when I am home
with my kids on Sunday
I have to be moving all the time am home with my kids on Sunday,
I have to be moving all the time.
I play with them in the pool or walk my dogs up and down the street.
Just picture him coked out walking his dog.
It's like there is something inside me that I have to unleash on someone.
Perhaps it's anger, hatred.
I feel I've been denied a childhood.
I fear no one.
I like to hit men. It liberates me.
Okay.
At least he didn't say,
I like to hit women.
It liberates me.
That's a good point.
But he does like to hit women
and it liberates him.
We'll find out that later on.
Yeah, he does.
I just saw like a drunk college girl speaking,
I like to hit men.
That's what I like to do.
No, it's not.
It's an angry little Incan man,
actually, as a matter of fact.
He ends up...
I have to keep moving.
Otherwise, I'll just piss everywhere.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's the other thing.
He doesn't say he knows where he's going.
He just goes up and down the street.
I don't know.
I lost my fucking house.
That's why.
I forgot where I live.
Luckily, the dog remembers and takes me there.
So, yeah.
Oh, man. remembers it. That's amazing.
This is great.
You people are fucking awesome.
This is your shit.
He's trying to master his childhood.
This is some psychological shit.
Now, after the fact.
After the fact.
We're going to fix it now.
You're going to bring dad back?
No, no, no.
He's trying to master it.
You're pissed off just watching mom?
He's trying to master it like why people that get molested molest people sometimes.
Like some weird mastery thing.
He goes and he buys the house he was born in, which is a complete run-down shithole that he's not going to live in.
He just buys it to say,
yeah, I can fucking own that now.
Because, I don't know. Because it doesn't define
who I am. I can live in the shithole now.
No, he's not going to live in it. He just bought it to say,
I own that place. Yeah, like, I don't know,
take a piece of his childhood back. I have
no idea what the hell he's doing here. That sounds terrible.
Brain damage, once again. I'm going to say a lot of things
fucking brain damage. I mean, from between the
accident and the blows. He hasn't taken a lot of blows to the head yet because he's...
Because he's winning the first round.
Nobody hits him.
He's just coming in blowing people up.
Apart from cars.
Well, that's a problem.
He loses the battle again.
He's 0-1 against cars.
0-1.
0-1.
Terrible, terrible.
So, August 28, 2003.
He's at the Marriott Hotel
In Irvine, California
Now I know where this fucking is
Because I've actually looked to stay there once
We ended up staying at the La Quinta or some horse shit like that
I don't know where the fuck they're going to have boxing
Here in Irvine or Marriott
It's not in that industrial area?
Yeah, it's over in the industrial area
If you guys don't know where that is, watch the YouTube video of the Taco Bell deuce
Beating the shit out of the Uber driver
That's exactly what we're talking about.
It's a very strange place to box.
Not sure.
He fights Roque.
Roque or Roque?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, Roque.
How would you pronounce it, Jimmy?
I don't know.
There you go.
I don't think that's what it is.
Cassiani, who is a 22, 20, and 3 career fighter.
This is a journeyman here.
This is just to see.
But he wins.
He wins some.
Yeah, he wins some.
He loses some.
He's a journeyman.
Total definition of it.
This is a first round knockout
in a first round of eight rounds.
Guy with a day job, for sure.
At 2 minutes and 21 seconds.
So he is knocking the shit
out of everyone he can find.
I love that.
Watching his fights,
it's so much fun.
Like if you ever can,
I've said this a million times,
but go on YouTube
and watch the first
20 Mike Tyson fights.
It'll take you like
three and a half minutes
and it'll show up.
It's amazing.
Including intro.
It's amazing.
He comes out.
Including the rape
and everything.
No time at all.
One of the fights
is Robin Givens actually.
She falls down.
There's divorce proceedings.
He gives her $8 million
and then he knocks out
another guy. It's brilliant. It's a really weird He gives her $8 million. And then he knocks out another guy.
It's brilliant.
It's a really weird video.
Super strange.
I pray to Christ he doesn't listen to this.
It's his first loss.
It's his first loss there.
Oh, he's going to kill us.
Yeah.
How dare you two say that shit about me?
Can you imagine?
The funny part is the only person to ever get mad
is a NASCAR driver's wife.
Unreal.
We have had literally
brain-damaged psychopaths
on serious
methamphetamines and everything else, and they're like,
I don't give a fuck. This lady's like, no,
I don't think so. Somebody tweeted this shit
at J.R. Ryder and begged him
to say something. He's like, eh, fuck him.
Riddick Bowe just tried
to sell us a camera
and I decided...
Bowe's like,
you want to play
fantasy football with me?
I dare you.
Jimmy thought he was
trying to fuck with us.
Jimmy thought he was like,
hey, I'm going to kill you
and he was just
trying to sell us things.
His message to me was,
are you ready to go down?
I'm going to beat you up
or some shit like that.
And I was like,
oh, fuck, dude.
Riddick heard what we said.
Yeah, he's going to kill us both.
Yeah.
And then he was like,
sign up for fantasy football.
And I'm like, that's not the same thing at all.
And then we call a meth head a meth head.
And then some trailer park princess is like,
I dare y'all to say that shit to my face.
Not even I dare y'all to say that shit to my face.
She's like, give me y'all's number.
I'm going to call you.
She said that. Is it true?
Yeah.
I lived it.
I know.
The media made him fail three meth tests in one week.
That fucking media.
I know the media is a little rough, but I mean, three meth tests in a week.
That's a lot.
Just sprinkling meth everywhere.
By the way, look out for that.
That's not over yet, by the way.
I'm calling that one.
For sure.
October 27th.
We'll break that marriage up in a minute. Oh, it's going to... No, you can't... No., by the way. I'm calling that one. For sure. October 27th. We'll break that marriage up in a minute.
Oh, it's going to...
No, you can't...
No.
Meth, the cops,
having a yard sale
for all of your worldly possessions.
None of this drove this fucking lady away.
Do you think that you can do it?
I don't think so.
NASCAR, the police,
district attorneys.
I don't know.
I think the FBI was involved.
Who knows?
October 27th, 2003,
in the...
They sold their saw blades.
That's what they sold.
$15 for a circular saw.
Down to the saw blades.
It was $15.
Sold.
Didn't walk.
Right.
At the...
Oh, man.
Oh, that's Gymnasio.
It just spelled really fucked up.
Gymnasio.
Jose Baracasa in Caracas, Venezuela.
I assume that is the gym of Jose. Jose Baracasa in Caracas, Venezuela. I assume that is the Jim of Jose.
Jose Barracasa.
Barracasa's Jim.
Barracasa's Jim.
What the fuck?
Wow, I'm worse than you at this.
This is fucking terrible.
Alejandro Heredia he fights.
He's a 9, 12, and 4 lifetime fighter.
Listen, it would have taken me an hour and a half
just to get through the fucking names in this thing.
So you're doing fine.
We get a thing once in a while
where people are like, why didn't you guys switch for an episode?
He can't.
He's fucking illiterate.
You know how long that would take?
You know how much fucking editing I would be doing?
Oh, my God.
Are you kidding me?
Jesus Christ.
He has to switch roles.
And I'm like, fuck.
No, don't tell him that shit.
Don't tell him that at all.
I'm like, hey, go ahead.
Look all this shit up.
Enjoy.
Have fun.
This is so much easier.
It's perfect.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
So Alejandro Heredia is 9, 12, and 4.
So he's really fighting the cream of the crop here, I've got to say.
Knocks him out.
Big surprise.
First round.
But supposedly a scheduled 10-round fight.
So they're trying to drive him up a little bit.
December 18, 2003.
He's back at the Marriott in Irvine.
Oh, baby.
The Garden Center of America.
Fighting.
Fighting.
This is my favorite nickname of all time.
Thomas El Chocolito.
Which I expect to be called from now on by everyone in attendance.
He's Z Zambrano.
I have my fingers crossed for the train.
That would have been the shit.
Thomas the Train, my fucking child loved that guy.
El Chocolatito, which is,
not even Chocolito, Chocolotito.
Tito.
Tito, which is great.
Sounds like a made-up Spanish word.
So, Tomas Zambrano from Mexico here
knocks him out in a minute 45 seconds.
So this is just, I mean, he is pummeling people.
And this fight, because it's in the States, gains the attention of Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions.
So now try to get some money going.
Get him on TV.
Let's see what we do.
He's set to fight in New York on December 18, 2003.
I believe it's a Madison Square Garden fight.
Unbelievable.
On a big card, you know, an undercard of a pay-per-view fight.
Sure.
Big shit.
He's going to make six figures.
You could buy half of Venezuela before he's going to make for one of these fucking fights.
He could have bought the whole neighborhood.
He's going to buy his whole barrio.
Everything.
And all the cocaine and everything.
All the marbles, everything.
All the motorcycles.
He can get all the helmets now.
He's learned his lesson.
So he's getting ready to fight.
They have to do, you know, they do fighter checks.
They do MRIs to make sure that your brain is
there and working
that there's one in there
I doubt that there's much more to it than that
apparently you can't have a small blood clot in your brain
because that's what it revealed that he had
which is a result of the motorcycle accident
and like I said, the Venezuelan doctors
had as much training as you and didn't catch that
so he can't fight
at that point.
The New York State
Athletic Commission
places him on the
indefinite suspension list.
And the way it goes
is basically
if the New York State
Athletic Commission
suspends you
or the Nevada State Commission,
those are the two big ones,
no one will give you a license.
Those are the two big bodies.
They have all the fights.
MSG and Vegas
are where the fights happen.
So nobody in the U.S.
will give him a license
to box.
So he's fucked and he's got to go back to venezuela and buenos aires argentina and he becomes a world traveler now too he ends up back in america at some point though we'll find out what everybody
right now venture a guess what state would be the one state that would give him a license
florida a lot of votes for florida You're wrong. It's not Florida.
I guess Alabama.
No.
No, no.
Louisiana?
You're all forgetting.
Thank you.
Right there.
Texas.
You got it.
You know it.
They're like,
who gives a fuck if you got a blood clot?
I don't give a shit.
Fuck do I care?
I got shot in the leg last week
going out in box two.
I don't give a shit
what the hell happens there.
People don't give a fuck
down there.
My grandma got a blood clot.
She's fine. She fought last week? She beat the shit happens there. People don't give a fuck down there. My grandma got a blood clot. She's fine.
She fought last week.
She beat the shit out of my arm.
She knocked the fuck out of her.
Not in a ring or nothing, but it's all right.
It was still pretty exciting to watch.
She marked the fucking turkey.
She deserved it.
We did put it on public access around here, though, and everybody liked it.
There's other doctors, though, that have differing opinions that say that he's at no greater risk than anybody else.
I would think a blood clot in your brain getting punched in that is probably good.
I'm not a doctor by any means, as you might have guessed by now.
But that seems like that's bad, I would say.
He says that he was fit.
Valero says, I'm fine.
I'm good now.
I'm fine.
He says, quote, there's a lot of politics involved in the decision, basically, is what he's saying.
What?
A lot of politics.
How is there politics involved in whether or not you're going to fucking die?
Well, he says it's not fair.
They let Marco Antonio Barrera, who had metal plates in his head, fight in 19...
I don't know.
That's an advantage.
Well, no, no.
They're in blood vessels.
He had weird blood vessels that they had to put little metal things in.
And they let him fight.
So he's like, if this guy can fucking fight with a bionic blood vessel head, I should be able to fight too.
Put the shit here.
But your blood doesn't flow.
His flow is great now.
That's not good.
It's super fast.
It's going super fast.
And yours is just fucking stopping.
He's an advantage.
He says that, quote, many different specialists have checked me.
And he says he's fine.
He believes, politics here, he believes that his support of Hugo Chavez meant that the powerful people in America were against him.
Okay.
Which, yeah.
Yeah.
Probably also.
But still, I don't think the boxing people give a shit.
As long as you're willing to step in and get punched in the face, I don't think they give a fuck who you support.
Michael Popper is still excited to say your stupid name.
Doesn't give a shit.
He's still excited to get overpaid for what Doesn't give a shit. He's still excited
to get overpaid
for what he does.
No one is more overpaid
than that idiot.
Jesus Christ.
His brother's like the lowest one.
His brother's even worse.
His brother's like Gallagher too.
He's the Buck Gallagher's
accent.
That's what he is.
I'm going to hit a watermelon also.
That's what he is.
Let's get ready to rumble.
That's a hundred grand.
Fuck you.
Jesus Christ almighty.
That's the life right there.
Jimmy, that's your fantasy.
Man buns singing, let's get ready to rumble.
100 grand every time.
Boom.
Done.
I just want to make 100 grand to say yay.
That's where I'm at.
And you did it.
So May 21st, 2005, he's in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Not exactly Vegas for the fight game here.
He fights Hernan Abraham El Chino Valenzuela.
Fuck, yes.
Is he named after his country?
Valenzuela.
Right.
Not Venezuela.
I'm an idiot.
Right.
Sorry, guys.
We haven't worked with consonants yet.
We're working on that.
I got them to do all the vowels,
but the consonants,
they'll get there next time.
I promise you.
By episode 200. I got to do vowels and consonants
and another fucking language.
This is bullshit.
Shit, this is brutal.
God damn it.
I'm sorry.
Shit, this is brutal.
God damn it.
How stupid. The poorly named Valenzuela here
is an 11 and 13 career fighter.
Want to guess what happened?
I'm so lost at this moment.
TKO round one.
Two minutes, ten seconds it takes.
I'm trying to wrap my head around how fucking stupid I am.
And I have children I'm raising.
That's so embarrassing.
Two of them, too.
Yeah, yeah, that was plural.
Children.
Not just one.
One you could just put in the closet or something.
They take care of me.
That's what I'm telling you.
Right.
Jesus, you're going to need that.
Like adopting a dog.
They rescued me.
They rescued me. They rescued me.
So, July 1st, 2005, at the Roberto Duran Arena.
Okay.
Panama City, Panama.
He fights Esteban de Jesus Morales.
Oh.
That is the most Spanish name I've ever heard in my fucking life.
And I bet he dances his ass off.
Maybe.
He's 27-1-2 career, so that's not too bad.
He gets his ass kicked in a minute 15.
Minute 15 seconds, Edwin has him on his ass.
Unbelievable.
Just not knowing where he is and drooling.
Edwin is a bad son of a bitch, as you might be able to tell here.
Next, August 13, 2005.
As you notice, these fights are coming fast and furious once a month.
Blood clot be damned.
He doesn't give a shit.
This is at the Circulo Militar in Maraca,
Venezuela. It's versus
Jose, Jesus Christ.
Polija.
No, that's Jesus Cristo.
Something like that.
I wish it was.
Hernandez, who is a one in six career
fighter. And this is his last fight because he's
beaten in 41 seconds. Amazing.
And this guy tried
to get away from him too that was the thing like he didn't want to engage and it was as soon as
valero caught him he literally fight with my wife he's like get over here you're a fucking son of a
bitch yeah done you're that's your wife picking your ass though yeah for sure no no i don't hit
my wife no she would beat you just yeah based on... So anyway.
Hi, Lisa. How you doing?
She's up in the balcony somewhere.
So at this point, he realizes
that he's not getting back
in the States anytime soon. And he's having a hard time.
So he goes back
to Venezuela to live for a while.
And then he ends up moving to Japan.
Perfect. Where all Venezuelans go.
And he's huge there.
Oh.
He's a monster.
They must have really been...
Five, six, they're swinging up at him.
Yeah, yeah.
Every one of them.
He felt like a big man.
Yeah.
I'm a big man.
September 25th, 2005.
He's standing above everyone
in Yokohama Arena in Yokohama, Japan.
Fuck yes.
He fights Hiro Bando, a Japanese guy He's standing above everyone in Yokohama Arena in Yokohama, Japan. Fuck, yes.
He fights Hiro Bando, a Japanese guy, who is 22, 11, and 7.
Okay.
This is a first-round TKO at 156.
So you're starting to sense a pattern here. Yeah.
He has not gone past the first round yet.
All first-round knockouts.
And all knockouts, too, which is pretty goddamn impressive.
December 5th, 2005, at the...
Jesus Christ
oh
fuck
now I'm going to French
it went
oh I
no
well it went from
Spanish to French
I'm like I think you
I don't pronounce the L
fuck yes I do
shit
the Palais Omnisports
in Paris France
see what I mean
there's languages
the Omnisports Palace
versus Aram
Rama
Ramazan
from Armenia
okay so he's getting a world tour here Aram Ramazan from Armenia.
Okay.
So he's getting a world tour here.
14-6-2 from this guy's career.
This is a 20-second fight.
Wow.
Pretty much, again, they tap their gloves together, they move their heads from side to side,
and this guy falls down and the fight's over.
That's the best fucking fight, though.
They're so much fun.
And then he goes back to them. That's why Tyson was so great.
That was so much fun. Everybody loved him, because you want to well. That's why Tyson was so great. That was so much fun.
Everybody loved him
because you want to see
somebody get the living
shit beat out of him
in no time flat.
That's a really weird one,
isn't it?
They're like,
I want to see somebody
lose consciousness here.
I want to see CTE cause.
Strategically though.
It is.
Such a man.
It's so weird.
I can't watch like a
street fight.
No, no, no.
I can't watch that shit.
But a boxing match, I'm like, yeah, because he volunteered for that.
He's getting paid for that.
He signed up for it, and when he goes down wobbly, it's funny.
Well, they'll take him to the hospital after that, and someone else will pay for his brain scan.
And also, too, there's strategy in between matching those two up.
Like on the street, a giant fucking guy just beats the fuck out of a little guy.
And people watch that shit on YouTube.
They're like, watch this. I'm like, no, that's murder.
That's not good.
February 25th, 2006.
Centro
Recreacional.
Yesterday, again, same place.
In Tumero,
Venezuela, versus
Wyber Garcia from Panama. 22-11
fighter. This fight almost goes
to the end of the first round.
Almost. It goes 2 minutes, 57 end of the first round. Almost.
It goes two minutes, 57 seconds, but he knocks him out.
Okay.
He ends up knocking him out.
He wins the WBA super featherweight title in this, so good for him.
By doing this...
That's the other thing that never happens in that division.
You don't get to see people get knocked out that fast in that division.
By doing this, he sets a new world record by winning his first 18 fights as a professional by first round knockout.
Wow.
All first round knockout.
He broke a guy named Arthur.
See, I was right.
Arthur Suskind's record.
That's not him.
No.
Where is he?
I lost Arthur Suskind.
He's back here somewhere.
He breaks.
No, that's the other guy.
Was it his wife?
He breaks Oscar Suskind's record.
That's not Oscar.
What's Arthur Suskind?
Because he's from like 1905.
Jesus.
Of course you don't.
He's like bare-fisted and shit.
No, there's a picture of him.
I have it somewhere, but I don't.
Whatever.
So his, Arthur Suskind, by the way, his nickname,
fucking dick names are terrible.
Young Otto.
Young Otto.
Old Otto.
That's what I mean.
Again, Italians are needed here.
We need Italians to nickname people because Because that's what they basically...
Well, there's already an old Otto.
So, you know.
Of course, he's three years younger than you.
But his name's Arthur.
Yeah, Otto.
Oh, Otto's short for that.
Is it?
Yes.
It's probably a German thing.
I don't know.
The record has since been broken by Tyrone Brunson.
This guy.
There we go.
Most people don't acknowledge it because he has fought even worse tomato cans than Valero.
So most people... He also, in addition to boxing,
he's done that.
That's not the same guy.
That's Tyrone Brunson.
Look at him.
Look at that shit right there.
That's a high and tight right there,
but it's like a loose jerry curl at the same time.
He's Carlton if he fought.
That's amazing.
Look down the right side.
Love Triangle is the name of it.
Is that an album?
That's an album cover right there.
Look at that shit.
Is he a jazz musician?
Is that what that is?
Triangles of Me.
What the fuck?
Triangles of Me, Love Triangle.
That's you three times.
Do you fuck yourself three times?
How do you get a love triangle out of that?
Shit, Tyrone.
Fuck, man.
Tyrone's got it going on.
He just makes a triangle with his knees while he tugs. So paranoid you get a love triangle out of that? Shit, Tyrone. Fuck, man. Tyrone's got it going on. He just makes a triangle with his knees while he tugs.
Such a love triangle.
Such a love triangle.
So he does that.
Only one...
I'm going to do that in my hotel room.
Totally going to do that.
You should do that. Let me know how it goes.
You are going to do that.
If you ever stay in the Palomar,
I may have done that in the bathtub.
So be careful.
Don't stay at the Palomar.
Just say that.
Sorry, Palomar.
I'm not sorry, Palomar.
Take a quick break for our sponsor this week, the Palomar Hotel.
Can you imagine?
They have surprisingly comfortable bathtubs.
They do.
So March 25th, 2006.
He's at the World Memorial Hall in Kobe, Japan.
They let someone else name that.
They let an American guy name that.
He's fighting Gennaro... Oh, God.
Transankos.
Fuck yeah.
Shit.
Of Mexico.
A Mexican and a Venezuelan are fighting in an American-named arena in Japan.
This is fucked up.
This is very confusing.
He's from New York.
He's a Mexican.
From Mexico.
The 22-16 in one career.
That sounded harsh.
He's a Mexican.
He's from Mexico.
That's all.
He's Venezuelan.
He's Mexican.
But it sounded very harsh.
He's Mexican.
Fucking deer leaves.
That one is brutal.
That's not really mean.
He fights him.
This fight goes to the second round.
Holy shit.
The first time out of the first round.
It's a TKO at 148 out of this.
I don't want to do that.
There we go.
Oh, shit.
There we go.
Okay.
TKO at 148.
And we have their in their own words about this.
Oh, boy.
In their own words, quote.
After I finally went into the second round
It was kind of a relief after knocking out all those guys
In the first round
I swear for the first 30 seconds
Whatever strategy those guys have are out the window
The moment I feel a guy's hurt
I'm going to take him out
Very Mike Tyson-esque
You'd see that with Tyson
Guys would come out and be like yeah alright
And then the second Tyson would swing and miss one time, they'd just be like, oh, Jesus.
They're into a fucking mess.
They're like, that could have hit me.
Calm down.
All technique out the window.
Gone, man.
Gone.
So, yeah, he says that.
Now, he fights August 5, 2006 at the Fagali Convention Center in Panama City, Panama.
He fights Vincent El Loco Mascaro.
Fantastic.
Yeah, not bad. That's a good name for a boxer, right? That sounds tough, too.
His last name is Mascaro, though?
Mascaro.
He's a 33,
3-1 career fighter.
He only had one loss coming into this fight.
This is a battle. This is a
world-class fighter. This isn't a journeyman. This isn't
some 0-6 tomato game here.
This is the real deal. He fights this guy.
Valero's knocked down in the third
round. He gets right back up. It just pissed
him off, pretty much. It just pissed him off.
He comes back, ends up winning a TKO
in round 10 of 12.
So that's some perseverance
there. You can get knocked down, come back, because he's
not used to going past one or two rounds.
I give him a lot of credit, and he's a damn good fighter for that.
And there he is with a belt after that.
Wins the WBA super featherweight title.
Look at that guy.
By the way.
That is the face of brain damage.
By the way.
That is fucking incredible.
Is there drool on his lip?
That's amazing.
By the way, everybody look.
I can't say my name.
All right, fuck it.
Never mind.
Moving on.
Jesus Christ,
so.
Not like I set
this shit up
or anything.
Not like I'm
fucking covered
in set up.
Fucking Christ.
Shut up,
how's that?
I'm just kidding.
Holy Christ. I just wanted to make you uncomfortable i don't really care but check out uh to the right side
of the picture you see that guy over the shoulder that is the silverest of the silver-haired
that is bob arum right there is that him that's bob arum we're gonna we're gonna hear lots from
him he's a complete dick and he loves he loves Valero based on his circumstances, and then not anymore.
We'll find out.
So his wife, Jennifer, again, she says, the press guy said, even after he won the title, I never saw her smile.
So right back to that.
He said that Valero had her pretty much under lock and key.
Said he had major jealousy issues.
So, yeah, he's, I mean, this poor woman, Jesus Christ.
I can't imagine what it's like to...
Look at that.
That's Hugo Chavez right there.
He's making the devil horns?
That's not good.
I don't know.
He's a jokester.
I am bad guy.
He's a jokester, that Hugo Chavez, you know?
Venezuelan dictators, always jokesters here.
January 3rd, 2007.
An Arake Coliseum
in Tokyo, Japan.
He fights Michael Lozada.
He's Mexican again.
He is 35, 10, and 1.
It is a TKO round one,
one minute, 12 seconds.
So quick again,
knocking people out.
May 3rd, 2007.
Same arena in Japan.
I'm not going to pronounce
it again poorly.
He fights Nobuhito Hanmo
of Japan. His nickname is Powerful Hanmo. I feel like that's arena in japan i'm not going to pronounce it again poorly he fights uh nobuhito hanmo of japan his
nickname is powerful hanmo i feel like that's definitely a translation it sounds way cooler
in japanese like powerful hanmo doesn't know like it's like what they'd name a buffet yeah
powerful buffet powerful spare rib buffet sounds like a lawnmower. Yeah. Powerful lawnmower. Buy one. Buy a powerful lawnmower.
But it's like small and compact.
Yeah, it's a little tiny one.
You can use it one-handed.
Yeah.
He's a 29-5-2 fighter.
So another, this guy's no joke here.
He's fought a couple of our guys that we've talked about before.
This is a TKO.
Edwin wins in round 8 of 12 at 154.
So he is killing it right now.
After it, I bring up Hugo Chavez here,
because afterwards, for some reason,
he's in the ring being very happy
and waving around a Chavezito,
or a little Chavez doll.
Oh, it's one of him?
Yes, one of him.
Making those horns?
That's the most festive look I could find.
The most where he looks like a doll,
or he looks like he's actually a fun guy.
Because all the other ones,
he's like angry and pointing.
He's a fucking dictator. What do you want? So, you know, there's that. So he looks like he's actually a fun guy because all the other ones he's like angry and pointing yeah he's a fucking dictator what do you want so you know there's that so uh yeah he's holding that up and everyone's very confused because it's japan you
know like what is he fucking doing they don't even know who he is yeah no less why this guy's doing
it now september 2007 uh 2007 uh he has some problems uh police are called they're called for
a situation at his house.
It's not really domestic violence, but basically he's just going batshit at his mother's house,
like tearing the house up and ripping roof tiles off of it and shit.
They're like, what the fuck is this guy doing?
I love it.
So they kind of just like he needs something.
Yeah.
I don't know in Venezuela the exact legal procedure this goes,
but he ends up appearing before a judge and declaring himself an alcoholic.
Yeah, yeah.
We assumed that. We need that
in this game. You were tearing roof tiles off
the trailer. I don't know if that's true.
I assume. I can only assume.
And for being an alcoholic, he's sentenced
to six months of rehabilitation in a
psychiatric ward.
Yeah, not drinking there. Why was
he in front of the judge, though?
That's what I'm wondering.
I have no idea
how this works.
He apparently...
You're arrested
for domestic disturbance.
No, sir, I'm an alcoholic.
Six months rehab.
That's it.
That's what?
Which sort of makes sense.
Is that how it works?
And then also,
a blood test detected
cocaine in his system also.
He is always on cocaine.
Fantastic.
Just assume
whatever he's doing,
it's cocaine.
My man.
Just always, always.
Without a doubt. So, December he's doing, it's cocaine. My man. Just always, always. Without a doubt.
So December 15, 2007.
Six months, he doesn't last because he's fighting again by then.
He's in Plaza de Toros in Cancun, Mexico.
And we have an In Their Own Words about this here.
Has a little cockiness about fighting this guy here.
In Cancun?
In Cancun, yeah.
This is great.
It's nice.
I don't know if I'm going to write it.
There we go. In Theircun, yeah. This is great. It's nice. I don't know if I'm going to run. There we go.
In their own words, quote,
yeah.
Zabalita has 11 knockouts
and 16 wins.
I have 22 knockouts
and 22 wins.
I always go for the knockout.
The crowd loves knockouts.
It's like in baseball
when a guy hits a home run
or in soccer
when a guy scores a goal.
The knockout is like that.
I just hope he's not
the little stone I trip over.
I will one day return to the United States.
My dream is to fight a big name fighter in Las Vegas.
Okay.
So that's what he wants.
He wants Vegas.
Is his blood clot fixed yet?
No.
No, that's swimming around in there.
He's fine.
Don't worry about that.
He's fine, Jimmy.
He's good now.
What are we doing here?
Christ almighty.
I have this many wins.
You can't just say number, number, and we fucking put it together in our own head?
No.
Because we watch boxing.
I have this, goddammit.
No, he wants to make it clear.
Okay.
That's what he means, like talking shit.
This is like Venezuelan shit talking.
I don't know how that works either.
He fights Zaid, the exterminator Zavaleta.
This guy has both ZZ initials, which is pretty fucking cool.
And he didn't go with ZZ Tom.
No.
He's from Mexico, a 20, 8, and 2 fighter.
So 20 wins, 8 losses, 2 draws.
This is a TKO in the third round at 118.
So Edwin kicks his ass also.
After this, Hugo Chavez is so thrilled with him that he brings him on his TV show, which is great.
Hugo Chavez had a TV show?
He has a TV show. He brings him on there.
Trump had one, too. That makes sense.
He's actually sitting.
It's like the president's corner, though.
It's like...
While he's in office... Fuck yeah! What?
It's a fucking dictatorship. That's unbelievable.
I want to be fucking a dictator.
But to show how much...
He actually, at this point, gets a giant tattoo
of Hugo Chavez on his chest.
He gets a tattoo.
Fuck yes.
You can barely see it.
That is a chest...
That is the Venezuelan flag.
That is the Venezuelan flag with Hugo Chavez on it.
And Venezuela de Veridad, which is true Venezuela above it.
So he is fucking Venezuelan through and through.
June 12, 2008 at the Nippon Budokan in Tokyo, Japan.
He fights Takahiro Shimada.
And it's a 27-6-1 fighter.
He wins by TKO and 155, Edwin does.
So he's moving right the fuck along.
So quickly that by December 2008, he wants to fight Manny Pacquiao.
Oh, that's not smart.
He wants to fight Manny Pacquiao. That's not's not smart. He wants to fight Manny Pacquiao.
That's not a good idea.
Money fight.
Who the fuck do you think he is?
Conor McGregor?
Yeah, exactly.
No shit.
It's the only guy with more brain damage, probably.
We have his head trainer, Valero's head trainer, says, quote,
We're having a hell of a hard time finding guys to work with him.
He's knocked out guys during sparring sessions, and that's with 16-ounce gloves, headgear, and holding him back some.
Holy shit.
He's a fucking animal.
He's just fueled by rage and coke and brain damage and blood clots and roof tiles and motorcycles.
Monte Carlo, all kinds of shit.
Yeah, it's a goddamn mess.
So he relinquishes his featherweight title to move up to lightweight because he wants to go
fight Pacquiao.
Now, in March 2009,
Valero is granted
a license in the only
state in America
that would possibly have him,
which is Texas.
Like I said,
he didn't even...
Technically,
he didn't even have
to have a head
to fight in Texas.
They were fine.
He could have just
walked in there
with shoulders.
They would have been like,
good enough.
It's fine.
How you gonna beat him?
You can't knock him out.
You can't hit him in the head.
All right.
He had to submit
to a battery of tests,
which in Texas
was the cantaloupe test
once again.
It's the same one.
You all right in there, son?
All right.
Can you hear that?
Yeah.
Is it sound?
Okay, good.
In Texas,
the battery of tests
is taking a nine-volt battery and putting it on your tongue. Yep, still working. Do you feel that? You, good. In Texas, the battery of tests is taking a 9-volt battery
and putting it on your tongue.
Do you feel that?
Get in there, boss.
He's alive.
All right.
Oh, my God.
Valero says that he's very pleased that Texas has approved his license.
He says, I am back.
I will deliver my best performance ever when I fight in Texas.
Thank you to all the officials.
He said he wants this opportunity because it's not going to count later on.
He said he wants to do this.
He wants the chance now, not when he's 30 and he's too old to do this.
Cool.
Too, you know, whatever, old.
30's old.
Jesus Christ.
I guess to get punched in the head a lot is pretty fucking old.
For sure.
So April 4th, 2009 at the Frank Irwin Center.
God damn it, where dreams come true.
Austin, Texas. Frank Irwin Center. God damn it, where dreams come true. Austin, Texas.
Frank Irwin Center.
It's like at a middle school.
You know it is, man.
He fights here.
Before the fight, Bob Arum is in there.
That's Pacquiao.
There's Bob Arum.
Look at that asshole.
You know how much money he's just actually extracted right from people's pockets?
Fuck.
Holy shit.
I know guys that are boxers. I've gone gone to, like, in South Phoenix, there's a
boxing gym.
Yeah.
It's a very famous one.
Yeah.
And if you just bring up the word Bob Arum, it's an hour and a half.
I love it.
In half Spanish, half English.
He doesn't even have language modulation when he talks about Bob Arum.
That son of a bitch robbed me.
That son of a bitch.
I'll kill him.
Right, right.
He said, I'll cut his fucking throat.
I'm like, Jesus Christ, holy shit.
So this guy's a scumbag here.
That guy doesn't look very mean, right?
He looks like your grandpa.
Pure scum.
Only he'll touch a little girl.
Appropriately, for sure.
Look at his face.
And he won't leave you a fucking dime when he dies either.
He's taking it all right to the grave, man.
Bob Arum says, now this is just now is what he says.
He says, quote, I believe in Edwin Valero.
You have seen tonight
as something really special,
something out of the ordinary.
You've seen the emergence
of a star.
And what you saw
was him beat
Antonio Pitalua,
who was this guy.
That is some hair
on there, Blake.
That is some,
that's some like
85 Bronx hair right there.
That's like breaking two.
Spanish guys.
I think Shabba Doo
had that haircut, I'm pretty sure.
Spanish guys are handsome, but stop with that bullshit mustache.
That's not even a mustache.
What is that?
You look like a catfish, you dipshit.
He does.
He does.
That's a good point.
You're an asshole.
That's a really good fucking point.
Fucking enjoy your great skin.
Shave your fucking face.
He seems to be a Colombian thing.
He's Colombian.
That's like a Colombian style, I feel like, right there.
He's 53-71, Pitilua.
He gets a TKO, Valero does, in round two of 12 at 49 seconds.
He wins the WBC lightweight title.
Really?
Everybody, this is Grace.
My favorite part.
This is Grace right here, guys.
100 fucking percent.
This is great.
Yeah.
100 fucking percent.
Yeah.
Now, afterwards, we'll find out we had some issues here, but Bob Arum isn't quite as excited with him anymore.
After May of 2009, this is immediately after the fight, pretty much, he is arrested for DUI and illegal weapon possession in Texas.
Yeah.
On a motorcycle?
No. This is in a car, luckily.
He still was wearing a helmet, which is
very strange.
Had a watermelon on his head. What are you doing?
He says, Valero says
that his tattoo was the reason he was
denied a visa to re-enter after
this arrest. Why is your shirt off when you're across the border?
That's what I'm saying. What are you doing?
Who's examining that? What are you doing?
He says that it's also probably the reason
that he was charged with driving under the influence in Texas.
Does he ever have a shirt on?
No, he has no shirt on.
Everybody knows that he supports a communist dictator, and they're going to oppress him accordingly.
Give him DUIs and everything else.
This is when he appears on the Hello President TV program, which is great.
After this, Bob Arum acts like he never met the guy before.
He says, quote,
they ask him, what was he like when we were around him when he was in Texas? Remember when he said how great he was?
We've seen something special.
Now he says, quote, he was totally erratic.
He was kind of a nice guy, but he could
go off at any time. He wasn't normal.
He can't make me any money anymore, so fuck him.
He's not normal, and nobody else book him, too,
because I don't want to make any new money because I should be making money.
Scumbag.
But now he starts to act weird
too. He's supposed to fight on a Latin Fury
11 card. He's supposed to get a six
figure payday here and he backs
out because Edwin doesn't feel like he's being
paid enough for it. This is some brain
damage post-Grace
shit right here. Has he gotten like big pay
since? No, but he thinks
I've knocked everybody out. Nobody's beat me. I'm beating everybody you put in front of me. I should get a big pay since? No, but he thinks I've knocked everybody out.
Nobody's beat me.
I'm beating everybody
you put in front of me.
I should get a big payday.
But no one knows
who the fuck he is.
You've never heard of him
because he's never
fought any big fights
because he's not allowed
in the US
because he can't stop
doing stupid shit.
And his brain
doesn't function properly.
That's the other problem.
He's got blood clots,
bats in his belfry
and everything else.
All sorts of shit flying around up there.
Great reference.
That was fun.
So September 17, 2009, Bob Arum comes out and denies that he ever wanted him on the Pacquiao.
First he said he wanted him on this undercard with Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto in Vegas.
But now he's saying, I never wanted him in the first place.
He goes into that he's totally erratic.
I don't know what he's doing.
He also says, and Bob Arum also says, he thinks it's probably Hugo Chavez why he's not getting a visa also.
So Bob Arum's backing him on this one.
He's a really flighty guy, this Bob Arum.
So an odd thing happens here in late 2009.
Very strange, as a matter of fact.
Jennifer, his wife, we talk about her a lot.
She's treated for a gunshot wound
to her left leg.
Holy shit!
She is shot by an unknown attacker on a motorbike.
I know a guy.
Exactly.
Unknown.
Wink, wink.
Unknown.
Jesus Christ.
You guys know anybody who has problems on a motorcycle?
By the way, it was in their front yard.
This happened.
Standing in the front yard.
Unknown.
No idea who did it.
That couldn't possibly.
Yeah.
It was a Rigoberto Moreno.
Who's that?
Yeah, that's them getting married.
She's nice.
Yeah, she is, actually.
There's a lot of pictures of her.
She's real sexy. Well, I mean, see her leg. She's got a gunshot wound. Yeah, it's real nice. Yeah, she is, actually. There's a lot of pictures of her. She's real sexy.
Well, I mean...
You should see her legs.
She's got a gunshot wound.
Yeah, it's real gross.
Yeah, she's gross.
You know how girls are always like,
would you still love me
if I fucking whatever,
whatever, whatever?
No, I would not
if you had a gunshot wound.
No.
Well, what if you
inflicted the gunshot wound?
What if you hired someone
to do it from a motorbike
at that point?
Why did I shoot her?
There's got to be a reason why I did it.
And that's probably going to cut down on how much I love her.
You could even see her smile as forced.
Oh, fuck yeah.
That's Stockholm Syndrome for sure.
No, it's serious.
I'm not even kidding.
I have an autistic son and you train them to smile.
And that's how they smile at first.
They're trained.
This is what you do with your mouth, but they're not actually
experiencing joy. That's what he's fucking doing.
That's what she's doing right there.
She's either autistic or petrified.
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Either one is possible.
Not fucking positive.
An autistic woman and a retarded guy.
This is a great couple.
Yeah, it's great. What could go wrong?
Jesus Christ.
Somebody's going to get a gunshot wound. Yeah, it's great. What could go wrong, Jimmy? Jesus Christ. Somebody's going to get
a gun show.
Oh, man.
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Oh, man. She is
admitted to the hospital, obviously. The bullet
entered her leg near the thigh and left by the ankle
so it had a trajectory. Holy shit!
Yeah, that's bad, man. Tore it up.
Tore it up. Get the fuck out of here.
Yes. Also, it is... Edwin is the one who brought her to the hospital. Yeah. So he's like, man. Tore it up. Tore it up. Get the fuck out of here. Yes. Also, Edwin is the one who brought her to the hospital.
Yeah.
So he's like, oh, no, someone shot you.
They're going to get you to the hospital right now.
Why is your eye moving that fast, sir?
I have a blood clot.
Yes.
That's what happens.
And I'm on so much cocaine.
Jesus Christ, it's insane.
The cocaine.
Jesus Christ, it's insane.
The cocaine.
So, late 2009,
police are called to the house of Valero
after a neighbor reports to the police
that he'd struck his mother and his sister
during a family dispute.
He has lost his fucking mind at this point.
It is unraveling from now on.
This is after a couple of fights
that don't go one round,
that go eight,
and he some more blows to the head.
Not great for a guy
who's already got brain damage
and a fractured skull
and everything else here.
Everybody denies it though.
They all denied anything happened.
This neighbor saw this all happen.
Denied.
The mother said,
quote,
we weren't mistreated.
They're saying that it's an effort
to try to make Edwin mad.
I don't know why the fuck
anyone would want to try
to make this psychopath mad.
They're saying they're just doing it
to piss him off.
He says, I've never hit my little sister, much less my mother.
So he's denying it completely.
His mother, Eloisa, backs it up completely.
She said, quote, there wasn't any sort of aggression.
We weren't mistreated.
It's nothing.
Then she reiterates it.
Completely fine.
It's how we love.
It's how we love.
He hugged her tight.
That's all it was.
He hugged her tight.
He just messed up his sister's hair.
He gave her a little tussle. And then dug his thumbs into his mom's throat. That's how we love. That's all it was. He hugged her tight. He just messed up his sister's hair. He gave her a little tussle.
And then dug his thumbs into his mom's throat.
That's how we love.
That's how we love.
It's loving.
It's very loving.
So, December 19, 2009, at the, oh, wow, Polideportivo Jose Maria Vargas in La Guarina, Venezuela.
Okay.
We would have been here until tomorrow.
I'd have just spelled it and moved the fuck along.
And I still fucked it all up anyway.
I just destroyed it and moved on.
He fights Hector Velasquez, who has the greatest name in the history of boxing.
Charo Negro.
That is a great name.
That is his nickname.
Mount.
Charo Negro.
I don't know what to say about that.
I said Charo Negro
Yes you did
Moving along
He's a 57
What's Charo? What does that mean in Spanish?
Is that like charred?
No
That's not a good nickname at all
So Charo like Charo Coochie Coochie
Her name was Burnt
Charred Black is a fucked up nickname
I don't think it's Charred.
I'm going to go with Charro means something else, let's say.
It sounds like Charred and I really want it to be.
That's why it's my favorite nickname.
But, you know.
I'm uncomfortable as fuck.
Alright.
Alright, yeah, me too.
And it's all my fault.
This is seventh round.
This guy does not come back out for the fight.
He says, I'm good. I've had enough here against old Edwin.
Ten seconds into the round.
He takes like three steps out and says, never mind.
Turns back around.
I don't think so.
He's still pissed, it looks like.
Again, there's more talk about a fight with Pacquiao now.
This is Freddie Roach, who's Pacquiao's trainer.
He said, quote, I've been thinking about it, and the number one contender in my mind right now is Valero.
That's 2010.
So still, even though he's fucked up plenty, there's still a chance here.
Roach noted a couple years earlier that he's a little slow, Valero, but he's got a lot of power and he's very dangerous.
So with this, Valero says, I need to get myself out there.
January of 2010, he joins Twitter.
What?
Imagine this guy fucking tweeting.
Just threats.
Angry things.
How do I joke my mother via Twitter?
How do I do it?
Has anybody found the man who shot my wife?
I'm assuming that's what he uses Twitter for.
It's really just posting videos and boxing shit.
Oh, the worst Twitter user ever.
Yeah, he's like Jeremy Mayfield's Twitter.
It's the same kind of thing here.
I liked the video on YouTube.
You're an asshole.
His Twitter account, by the way, is still up.
Really?
And he has 317 followers.
He's killing it.
He's crushing right now.
He has more people that's in this room right now.
Not by much, but it's still...
It's close.
We're almost beating him.
That's fucking amazing.
Just in this room.
Just today, right?
Never mind.
We have a late show
so
fuck you Valero
yeah take that
you son of a bitch
you coke addled bastard
so
what a slight
that was awesome
take that
February 6, 2010
Monterey Arena
Monterey, Mexico
this is on Showtime
so he's on television
in America
all over the place
he fights Antonio DeMarco who's a a Mexican fighter, 33-6-1.
This guy, again, doesn't come back out for the ninth round.
Wow.
After eight, he sits in the corner and he's like, nope, never mind.
That's amazing.
Changed my mind.
Good now.
Thank you.
I want to watch fights like that.
I don't know.
Is it more exciting to see a first round knockout?
Or would you rather hang in until number eight
and then just like,
fuck it, no, I'm going home.
Well, this guy too,
he opened up,
Valero had a huge cut on his forehead.
And he still didn't want to come out.
No, Valero beat the shit out of him.
It pissed him off.
Yeah, no, no.
It didn't stop Valero at all.
He sees a man with sheets of blood
running down his face
and he's like,
I'm not going to fight that man anymore.
The picture,
it was a very pixelated one.
It was shitty,
so I couldn't put it up.
But the picture is basically him standing there just covered in blood, happy as can be.
His teeth are all red.
He looks like he just ate a baby.
Like, holy fuck, he's the champion of baby eating.
My God.
So March 25, 2010, he's charged Valero with harassing his wife and threatening medical personnel who trained her in Meridia, Venezuela.
Here, there's the family there.
Nice family.
See, she's a nice woman.
She's got two cute little kids.
It's nice there.
His smile.
Holy crap.
He looks scary as shit.
That is just...
He's a frightening man.
And they keep letting a man that looks like that fight.
That's crazy.
And they keep letting a man that looks like that fight.
That's crazy.
Jennifer's admitted into the hospital with bite marks, bruises, and a broken rib that penetrated her lung.
What the fuck?
By the way, where she had been previously treated for similar injuries in the past. Okay.
That he never got arrested for.
Okay.
So what ends up happening.
She claims to have fallen down the stairs while going on the roof to fix a water pump or some shit.
Like she's fixing water pumps all the time, this lady.
Water pump.
Her house has a water pump?
Yeah, apparently.
So Valero busts into the hospital and starts telling everybody she fell down the stairs.
Fell down the stairs the whole deal.
She starts pushing doctors and nurses around.
All this shit.
Starts talking shit to the cops that are there.
So they end up detaining him on suspicion of beating the shit out of his wife.
But he told police injuries once again.
He's like, now it's not even stairs.
It's a ladder now.
It's like, well, it's a ladder.
She's climbing to the roof on a ladder.
Why the hell weren't you on the ladder, idiot?
Well, he's got brain damage.
Look at his face.
Jesus Christ.
He can't operate a ladder.
So, no.
That's a good point No That's a good point
That's a good point
Shit
It won't stay up
Shit
Fuck
Oh I need a house
To put it up against
I was just standing up
And it fell down
I don't know what happened
Shit
Alright
That's what it is
It's out in the middle of a field
Yeah
Fuck
What the fuck
I wanted to see high
I can't now
Fucking best man
Just out there
So
Prosecutor asks the court
To order Valero
To be jailed
But instead
The judge places
A restraining order on him
That bars him
From going near his wife
What do you have
Just successful
Do we think that's gonna be
For this fucking lunatic here?
It's fucking.
Now, the boxing people are like they're there.
It's so funny because they're they're in the silver hair middle aged white man business.
The one one guy here, Rufo John, who's president of Box Track, which is a promotional company
down there.
He said, quote, We are not judges.
The competent agencies will take will take charge of finding out whether he's innocent
or not.
All right.
Like, not my fucking problem is what he said.
As long as he's fighting, I'm going to be paying him to do it.
And a mortgage.
Absolutely.
So this all happens here.
March 29, 2010.
March 28, 2010.
Jennifer, his wife, decides that she refuses.
That's her last chance to file charges against him.
And they're really trying to get her to to and she won't. She tells her
her injuries were caused by
an accidental fall down a flight of steps.
Exactly what he said.
Even her mother said that. They got their
story straight. He said, look, you want me
to get paid? Lie.
And then they fucking went out and lied.
Even his mother, Eloisa, backed up
the same thing. The whole deal.
Everybody backs it up. Now, March 29, 2010, he same thing. The whole deal. Everybody backs it up.
Now, March 29, 2010, he checks himself.
He's checked into a psychiatric hospital, the San Juan de Dios Hospital, to deal with depression and alcohol dependency.
Awesome.
For six months.
Six months he's supposed to be in here in rehab.
Perfect.
No takes.
So that's March 29.
Six months.
April 7, he checks himself out of the hospital.
So, I mean, Jesus Christ.
Let's go down the list.
His mother, he could have made a nice life for.
Now he's embarrassing the fuck out of her.
His whole family.
His poor wife, Jesus Christ.
He's definitely beat her.
He's maybe shot her.
Maybe shot her.
Maybe beat up his mom, his sister.
All of these boxing promoters and everybody else.
Kids surely suffer.
Oh, God.
His kids.
He's got two kids. They have to witness
all this. Everybody that's ever invested a dime in him.
I feel bad
for all
these
people, but not nearly
as bad as I feel for
Edwin Valero. 90-odd episodes.
Every goddamn time I'm like, yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh shit, we do that.
He's got some shit planned
so Edwin
Edwin Valero
an actor
who's in Mozart
in the Jungle
this actually has
Gail Garcia Bernal
from Hampton
in it
the writer
producer
Hampton
Hamilton
looking at something
else
Hampton
what the fuck
am I talking about here
yeah so this is the guy's doing he's also a sound man on a From the Hamptons. What the fuck am I talking about here?
Yeah, so this is the guy's doing.
He's also a sound man on a movie called Skater Chicks, whatever the fuck that is.
I ain't watching.
Edwin Valero, a, quote, law enforcement professional.
What comes into your mind?
Cop, right? No, I see it.
Bounty hunter.
Yeah, no, shit, no.
He has a DSI security system.
He's a fucking security guard.
You're not a law enforcement professional.
Law enforcement professional.
I don't have a gun.
He should just say, I keep people from going there.
Right.
If you're there and you want to go there, I'm going to say no, you stay here.
And don't go there.
And that's law enforcement.
I'm enforcing the law.
And my favorite of all, Edwin Valero, Little League coach and embezzler.
This fucking guy.
This guy's great.
He's a
former Little League treasurer who admitted
to pocketing between $60,000 and $80,000
from a Little League's reserve
that had...
Un-fucking-real, man. This was in
2014. He's 47
years old. He's believed to have
made debit cards and
made withdrawals from
ATMs. A parent said,
when I read this, I thought,
could this possibly be the same nice guy?
It certainly fucking is.
He had a D on his hat for, I'm a dick.
That's right. Dickhead.
Another parent
said, he seemed like such a nice
Congenial person
Yeah
Well that's great
Stealing from you
Yeah
You might suspect him
If he's being an asshole
Like I don't trust that guy
Your kids don't have uniforms
No shit
He's got great hats though
So
They all got D's on them
That's just all of them
They're all in different colors
So
The next ten days
Now
April 7th
So he'd spent a week in rehab.
So not much here.
After a week in rehab here, the Venezuelan government arranges to have him enter a rehab in Cuba.
Yeah.
Okay.
They're both communist countries.
He's going to send him there.
Two days later, he's going to the airport.
He is shit-faced drunk.
Yes.
And crashes his car and misses the flight.
Okay.
Now, he was assigned a police escort
to take him there for the next one.
For the next time, he goes.
A police, they assign him an escort. He somehow
manages to get away from them
to the point where he gets to a rental place
and rents a van. What?
What kind of fucking police escort is
this? It must be the
other Edwin Valero.
I told him not to go there. He didn't listen.
I don't know what to tell you.
I said Cuba and he just went the other way.
I don't know. That's all I can do.
I took my flashlight out. He didn't listen.
Or you're just not giving him enough credit and he's
like Axel Foley in
Hollywood.
Beverly Hills Cop.
There you go.
He suggests, Valero
says that he thinks that they're being followed. Now he go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he suggests, Valero says that
he thinks that they're being followed.
Now he's got his wife with him too here.
He's got her.
He says that they're being followed
and he needs to go to a hotel.
By the way,
he's on a shitload of cocaine.
Shit, yeah.
Okay, shitloads of cocaine
at this point.
Yeah.
People are animals.
So what he does
is they go to the Hotel Intercontinental
and they stay in room 624 there and he is shit-faced drunk, tons of coke.
I mean, seriously.
How many details?
Some shit's coming.
He's hammered shit-faced.
He says he went to sleep.
It's in Valencia here.
It's April 18th.
He says what ends up happening at 530 in the morning, Valero walks downstairs to the front desk, barefoot and covered in blood from head to toe.
Oh, no.
Yes.
And calmly announced that he's killed his wife.
Oh, no.
And he has stabbed her to death.
Oh, no.
Just calmly.
Imagine the guy working the fucking counter.
He's like, what do you need, the Wi-Fi password?
Holy shit, what happened here?
Holy fuck.
Good God.
Wet nap, sir?
Yeah.
I don't know what the fuck to do.
More towels, I guess, is what you're looking for?
Shit, so we're going to need to clean the room today, is what you're telling me.
Wow.
So, yeah, he went down.
He makes a confession.
So the hotel staff calls police, obviously.
Police go up.
They confirm the death.
Poor Jennifer.
She has three stabbed.
This poor woman, long-suffering.
Jesus Christ.
You know, I feel so bad for her.
She was up there, stabbed to death three times, once in the throat.
It would have really cemented in there.
The one that soaked him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's the one probably that soaked him.
He offers no resistance when he's arrested.
He's so fucking high that they think he might be a suicide risk, obviously.
So they take off.
They take his shoelaces and his jacket and the rest of that shit.
Now, his cousin, a Kenya Finnell, says that after his wife was killed, Valero called her and said that she'd been killed by underworld thugs.
She's like, they took a shot at her once, why not twice, right?
I don't know who did it.
She said, quote, when he called, he sounded like he was drugged.
In a real quiet tone, he said Jennifer was dead in a hotel room in Valencia and that
she had been killed by some thugs who had been pursuing them.
Very calmly.
He's very calm.
Now, he gives the exact same story to his wife's, the same story he gave to the wife's
family, the cousin there.
It's the same story he gives to police.
Sure.
He said, quote, I did not kill her.
We were being pursued by some thugs and they killed her.
Okay.
That's very simple right there.
I suppose. He also told police that he was so high he couldn't even remember exactly what happened. quote, I did not kill her. We were being pursued by some thugs and they killed her. That's very simple right there.
He also told police that he was so high he couldn't even remember exactly what happened.
He said he remembered
finding her body but couldn't remember anything else
or how he was killed or anything like that.
So he is arrested. There's him
in handcuffs there.
Obviously.
He's arrested for that.
That's the police guy. Just a dude in a windbreaker.
He looks like...
That's the other Edwin Valera.
He's like, there, we're taking you there.
Inside that cell.
Not a scary cop.
He doesn't even have his hands behind his back.
He's just like, you're okay. A guy like you isn't dangerous
with your hands or anything. You couldn't beat me up
with your fucking hands, cuff.
He says to them, quote, now I've screwed up for real.
I'll never be able
to see my daughter again.
Now, he's got a,
that's what he says
at first when they take him.
He's got a son, right?
He's fucked up.
He's got a daughter
and a son.
Fuck the son.
Who cares about him?
See that kid?
He's like,
he's got fucking long hair
longer than mine.
I don't like that.
It's not masculine enough for me.
He's got a fucking man bun.
Yeah, it's no good.
He says,
his explanation for this is,
I was going to Cuba,
but I didn't have my passport.
I lost it.
We were going to stay
in La Galleria
until they sent me to it.
The flight was supposed
to be yesterday.
Very confusing shit.
And here's his explanation
of the whole thing
in their own words.
Quote,
Yeah.
We were driving
and I had been drinking
some vodka.
I was drinking and drinking.
All of a sudden, I realized that someone was following us.
Probably a police escort maybe, dickhead.
It was like 10.30pm and I sped up until we reached a toll booth
and I told the police officer that someone wanted to rob or kidnap us.
I don't remember which toll booth.
After a while at the booth he told us to go to the Hotel Intercontinental in Valencia.
I went there because they were trying to kidnap me.
There was this woman leaning back in a chair
staring at my wife.
Another man said hello
to her as well.
Oh boy.
Is that coke shit or what?
That's pretty bizarre.
That's the cokiest shit ever.
There was a guy in the lobby
and he said hi to us.
He's fucking totally
going to kill us, right?
Think about that
fucking statement.
Then I went there
and I saw him in the toll booth.
He was right there.
I was like, yeah, he knows.
The toll booth guy set me up.
He sent me to the hotel
because he had thugs.
And he was the one, the Tollbooth guy was the fucking guy in control of it all.
Don't you understand?
The Tollbooth guy owns this shit.
Wow.
Holy fucking shit.
He said, I laid next to her and when I woke up, she was dead.
That's all he says.
He just said he was just taking coke and drinking all night long and she just died.
And he said, I can't count on my family for moments like this.
I think they'll find out what happened soon enough.
What I would like, though, he tells the police, is to call my manager, Segundo Luano.
He should come.
Talk about silver.
I've killed a guy.
Call my manager.
Holy fuck, man.
Not a guy.
I killed my wife.
I killed my wife, yeah.
So, I mean, he's sitting there now.
He's in fucking jail.
Yeah.
He's sitting there.
He's got to be miserable.
He's sitting in there miserable.
He's sitting in there miserable.
And he hears there's a knock at the cell.
Yeah.
He looks through the bars and it opens up and it's the Mexican pimp, Guns Blazing.
And he says, how is it you've come to arrive here?
Why are you here?
Why do you come?
I have many women.
Many.
So many women.
I have not shot any of them.
I have not stabbed any.
I make them have sex for money, sure.
And they give it to me, yes.
But I do not do that.
And he gets bumped over.
He's like, who the hell is this?
And behind him, it's the shawarma man
why you come here
what's wrong with you
no he already said
how you come here
right
alright he does that
but why you here now
I don't understand
you come
you come here
you kill wife
why you kill wife
now you want shawarma
from me
I don't make shawarma
for people who kill wife
sign say close
no you no come in here
no
you no go and behind him and he was very concerned. No. You no go. And behind him,
and he was very concerned when he turned around,
as he was behind him, is Dexter Manley, interior decorator
from New York City.
This is ridiculous. You grew up.
Listen, listen. Sir,
sir, I'm going to have to tell you right now.
I'm the one that tells everybody this.
I don't care if you're from Venezuela or wherever
you're from. You're white trash.
You're just white trash, okay?
You're fighting with your mother, your sister.
Your wife's climbing on the roof to change water pumps.
You're white trash.
You might as well have a trailer.
Get out of here.
And he says, never mind.
And he steps aside.
And behind him, they hear some dogs barking.
It's Bobby Colorado, animal trainer from Fredericksburg, Texas.
And he says,
what the fuck is wrong with you?
What's your fucking problem?
You know what you need to do?
You know your problem?
You're very miserable.
You need to get yourself
a couple of nice fucking dogs
as companions.
You know what I mean?
I'll train them up for you
to very fucking...
No, I won't teach them
to bite people.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
This guy's a fucking asshole.
He wants me to teach him
to bite dogs?
No, I'm fucking done with you.
I'm getting out of here.
And he steps aside
and it's Estevez Jones.
70s... MMA fighter and 70s black exploitation film villain.
And he says, motherfucker.
Motherfucker, what the fuck is wrong with you?
It's your motherfucking problem.
Nah, I've been talking to the Mexican pimp outside.
We got some shit in common, you know what I'm saying? We both run some girls, you know what I'm saying? I got the same shit. I never stabbed talking to the Mexican pimp outside. We got some shit in common. We both run
some girls. I got the same shit.
I never stab one of my hoes. I don't stab
nobody. You understand? No, that's right.
I don't stab nobody. I keep it calm.
I got a nice woman at home.
You think I'm a mean guy? No, I got a nice woman
at home, goddammit. We're very happy.
We go out on Friday nights to TGI
Fridays. We have a good time. That's right.
I don't give a fuck.
And then behind him they make way and it's my grandma.
And she says,
Ma, what the hell are you doing?
Ma, I want to say you're a handsome young man,
but you're really no handsome young man.
You're a very, very ugly man, but that's okay.
Maybe you cut your hair, you get a nice man haircut,
you know, nice and short, you know,
you look very handsome for your wife.
You know what? I have a nice, you know,
one of my nieces maybe I took.
No, no, you kill your wife. Never mind.
You son of a bitch. Get out of here.
I go, I go, and poof, in a cloud of marinara sauce,
dog shit, purple glitter,
cheetah print,
and handguns.
They're all gone.
Like that.
Thank you, pal.
Thank you.
My grandmother kicked them all out.
All of you go.
So, Jennifer Carolina's uncle.
We get back into woman murder now.
This is terrible.
He says that Valero didn't go crazy overnight.
He said he was always a violent person.
He had the entire family living in fear.
He says that they've never said anything because they've been threatened with death.
Yeah.
We have to take the blame for what happened for not speaking up earlier, but so do
the authorities of this country and President Hugo Chavez
himself. Because Valero was an
athlete, he received preferential treatment.
Whole point of our show.
So they are too responsible.
They too are responsible
for what happened. It's true.
Jennifer's death cannot go unpunished.
If he would have been sent to
the mental hospital, then they would have said he wasn't crazy.
He was keeping Jennifer on drugs since January.
He forced her to take them or else he would have killed her,
her children, and her mother.
One of those happened.
Yeah, true.
During the 10 years of marriage, she was always under threat of death,
which explains the autistic smile.
I really like my husband now.
This is going great.
His mother, Valero's mother, blames the legal system.
They said, the legal system's failed my son.
Sure.
Period.
Because it's not his fucking fault.
She said, quote, the authorities of this country are responsible for everything.
Yeah.
Everything.
I want that mom.
Yeah.
So he immediately, you know, they see a judge to, like, arraign him in any way.
And he's remanded.
He's not getting any bail.
You, sir, may fuck off right over here.
You're out of here.
In jail.
So he's in police custody.
The WBC suspended his title because he's in prison for fucking killing his wife.
He can't defend it.
So April 19th.
No, he's not going to defend it.
He's going to be the champion of jail.
April 19th, he's in police custody.
He tells police as they let him to his cell,
quote, I feel so alone, I need to talk to someone.
Don't leave me alone.
So they leave him alone.
Obviously.
And so he uses his jogging pants to hang himself.
Fantastic!
Yes!
And there you go.
There's his fucking funeral.
Do we have a death scene?
I want to see that photo.
I actually...
That's close enough.
I like that.
I did, and I didn't bring...
You found it?
No, I found her crime scene.
Oh, fuck.
No, no, no, no, no.
We don't want that.
Yeah, I'm not...
I'd love to see him
hung by a...
We're having fun here.
This is fine.
I want to see him
hung by a pair of
breakaway pants
that didn't break away.
Yeah, exactly.
Yes. Fuck yeah. I love't break away. Yeah, exactly. Yes.
Fuck yeah.
I love it.
I love it, man.
His mother-in-law said that the daughter had told him that he, quote, didn't eat, he didn't sleep, he used drugs every day, and he was growing more and more violent all the time.
So people down in Venezuela are calling it a tough blow for the sport.
I mean.
They're all saying that they're just disappointed.
Look at this funeral.
There's people chanting shit.
They take the coffin to the gym that he trained at.
What?
No, this is like parading through the streets like a hero died.
It absolutely is.
To the gym.
People are chanting, we don't care, we still love you.
My Christ.
It's fucking ridiculous.
A whole country of silver hair middle-'s a whole country whole fucking country uh yeah yeah one of this uh this lenares guy who's a former venezuelan
uh heavyweight uh super featherweight champion he says what's important is that we learn a lesson
we admired him as an athlete but we never did anything to help him with his problems we could
have started by making public his problems and not hiding anything. His manager, Jose Castillo, who's a guy who should feel fucking bad, he said, quote, we all looked away to not to admit what's going on.
We were very permissive with him.
And because of that, we're now in the middle of this tragedy.
Well, no shit.
Also, Bob Arum.
There's his kid, too.
That's his son there.
That's fucking sad, man.
And they're all treating him like this.
That's at the funeral?
People are clapping.
This is fucking.
That's a funeral.
Wow.
That's his funeral. The kid's raising his fist like he's the champion now? Yeah, but they're saying like. like, this is great. That's at the funeral? People are clapping. That's a funeral. Wow. That's his funeral.
The kid's raising his fist like he's the champion now?
Yeah, they're saying like the son.
He kind of is.
They're trying to make him feel better, I guess.
I think they do that at every event as well in funerals.
They do.
We win.
The oldest son puts boxing gloves on and they declare it a victory.
An Oedipal victory.
That's all it is right there.
So, yeah, Bob Arum speaks on it one more time.
He says, quote, the court put him in rehab for six months, and somehow he got out in a weekend.
I never talked to him during that period.
I only talked to his manager.
They were trying to get him to come to Mexico to start training and cleaning himself up.
It's obvious now in retrospect that he should have been institutionalized during that period, but it's silly to play the blame game.
Really?
I think this is the perfect time to start blaming Motherfucker at this point in time.
His final record is 27-0.
Yeah, something positive does come out of this.
A middleweight champion down there named Sergio Martinez announces the day after Valero kills himself that he's launching a campaign in the boxing community to raise awareness about domestic violence against women.
He's doing this whole deal.
Basically, he says, quote, I love and respect women.
Violence against women is simply unacceptable. The number
of cases too often involving athletes requires
action. I have always confided in my mother
and consider myself to be a mama's boy.
Women must be respected, not abused.
It's true.
This guy should be on our staff
for this.
September 2000.
28-0, except for track pants and cars.
That's it.
That's the only thing that can beat him.
0-1 and 0-1 right there.
You got it.
September 2016, a film called El Inca comes out,
which is all about him.
It's a box office sensation down there, automatically.
It's the third most lucrative film of the year
in less than three weeks of release.
It's a huge thing. It's the second film ever, but
whatever. It's only their fourth movie ever made.
December
3rd, 2016,
the judge actually
ordered it removed from theaters and impounded
all the copies of it.
It was a case brought by Valero's family,
which they accused him of slander, the director,
Ignacio Castillo, of slander.
But he says it has more to do with bullshit.
He says, in Venezuela, the courts are not independent.
There's evidence of political element in banning this film.
So he's another one saying his father,
this filmmaker's father was a journalist
that Chavez fucking hated, by the way.
So it's one of those things.
So he's saying that it's a political thing against him, which, I mean, who knows?
It might be, but either way.
At the end of it, is he like a hero, like in Glorious Bastards where they kill Hitler?
You know what I mean?
No, no, no.
That really didn't happen.
No, no, no.
At the end, is he like a hero and the wife's a hero?
No, no, no.
In the end, he kills someone and then hangs himself.
Great.
I want to see it.
They keep it really on the mark there.
Yeah.
He said the judge, this guy said the judge never even saw the movie. I want to see it. that he doesn't think Valero committed suicide. He thinks it was murder. He says that, yep, he says that... Does he have a blood clot too?
No, he said that
he knew Valero personally.
They both have
very severe brain damage.
Yeah.
They both know Valero very well.
He knew Valero personally
and Valero had attended
his birthday party
in the Philippines
two years ago.
And he says he didn't do it.
He said that, quote,
someone might have gotten
back at Valero.
If police authorities felt that Valero
could be a danger to himself,
they should have stripped him down
with briefs inside the cell
or put a straitjacket on him,
which is true.
But a lot of people are saying that.
People, his parents request that,
well, his sister, his mother,
request that his body be exhumed
to prove that he was,
to say that he was strangled to death by police
because that's what they think.
Wow.
They would have had to have him cuffed.
Otherwise, he's taken
all of them out with him.
Yeah.
It's not a guy you want to try
to start choking
and fucking knock the shit out of you.
Hugo Chavez came out
and said that
during the investigation
that Valera was innocent
of the charge of murder
in the case of his wife
and he was in,
and his wife was killed
by her enemies.
That's what he said.
So he's got the president
to do that.
Yeah.
They really love women
down there.
That's right, man.
He said that
and with this too,
you know that
if he wouldn't have
killed himself,
he would have got away
with this shit.
Yeah, no doubt.
If the president's saying
you're innocent
and it's a dictatorship,
you're fucking innocent, period.
No one's going to go against him.
So yeah,
so they had the funeral for him as we saw. People are and you're fucking innocent, period. No one's going to go against him. So they had the funeral for him, as we saw.
And people are fucking upset about it.
They're upset.
They're like, oh, they're sad, which I don't understand here.
There's no closure.
There is no closure on it.
Yeah, they didn't get to do anything like that.
So anyway, they're saying that they're blaming the psychiatrist
for not keeping him.
But he checked himself out of rehab in a week.
He was a fucking menace. There's no way
that this was going to end like this in some way,
shape, or form. Either in prison or hanging
himself or with dead women or something here.
Yeah, now they talk about Valero's
brother, Edward, afterwards said
that Valero was
driven crazy by the drugs. And they named their kids
Edward and Edwin, by the way. What the fuck is wrong?
Jesus, fuck. Which was which?
Yeah, Edward is the brother. Edward says that the drugs made Edwin, by the way. Jesus. What the fuck is wrong? Fuck. Which was which? Yeah, Edward is the brother.
Edward says that the drugs made Edwin hallucinate, and he thought everyone was trying to hurt him, even his own family.
He said, quote, when Edwin came from Mexico after his last fight, he went crazy.
He was drinking and acting strange and wanted to fight everybody.
Cocaine makes you paranoid.
No shit.
Once I went up to the house, and his wife was excited to see me.
Somebody that tried it once.
And his wife was excited to see
me and he got mad. He had to
be calmed down. His obsession with Jennifer was
so strong that it bothered him even when his
father or brother would give her a kiss.
He would say that Jennifer was his. She belonged
to him. Edwin was a great person but the
drugs drove him crazy. Made him see strange
things. He always believed people wanted to hurt him.
Sure. Fucking cocaine.
God damn it. Yeah. Fuck.
It's fucking awesome. It's good now.
Yeah. That's that. Yeah. Cocaine
could make someone voluntarily want to do that
and end up like this. That's how great it must be. I don't know.
So I fucking hate stimulants
of all kinds. I can't do it. I'm on edge
enough. Imagine me on coke.
Imagine this guy. I'd be do it. I'm on edge enough. Imagine being on coke. Imagine this guy.
I'd be diving off
the goddamn stage.
The show would just
be all characters.
That's all it would be.
That's all it would be.
I'd have a million
fucking characters.
Every one of these
would be in a different character.
The two children,
by the way,
are now being looked over
by Yoel Final,
who was a 2016
bronze medalist
and is the brother
of Jennifer.
Jennifer's brother.
The uncle. Valero trained him in boxing. Oh. And he would take and is the brother of Jennifer. Jennifer's brother. The uncle.
Valero trained him in boxing.
Oh.
And he would take him around the streets of Meridia
to look for fights to help him, quote,
become a man.
Sweet Pete.
Come on, little guy.
Let's go beat the shit out of some people
in the streets of Valero.
Wow.
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Sweet.
Is that Venezuela money or American?
That's American.
And they have the balls to say plus $10 shipping.
Fuck you and your $10 shipping.
You're not getting shit from me.
Balls!
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Exactly.
That's what it is.
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Also, too, they have a Scarface.
You know those Scarface black and white shirts that people wear down to their knees?
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Those shirts are like body covers for when you stab a woman
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Fucking terrible
And that my friends is Edwin Valero
A complete and total asshole
Thank you so much everybody for coming out Chicago And that, my friends, is Edwin Valero, a complete and total asshole.
Thank you so much, everybody, for coming out to Chicago.
You guys are great.
Bear the cold.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
We love you to death.
Thank you so much.
We'll see you out there.
We're going to come out and hang out, take pictures, and see all of you.
Thanks again, everybody.
Have a good night.
Drive safe.
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