Crime in Sports - Agitated, Crazy & Covered In Blood - "Irish" Tommy Eaglin - Part 3

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

This week, we finish up our crazy tale, after Tommy has been sentenced to death. Hi murder accomplices also get their sentences, and we hear about the horrible life that created those murderers. Tommy tries to get his death penalty thrown out, based on what he claims is a lawyer, who doesn't "believe in" bipolar disorder & didn't want to even try to present his case & save his life. Will his horrific childhood, & constant head trauma make a difference???    Go off your meds, causing you to question reality, hire a lawyer who doesn't think bipolar disorder actually exists, and still keep your title for "Worst Childhood Ever" with Tommy Eaglin - Part 3!!   Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!   Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman   Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com   Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!!   Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports [e-mail]

Hello, everybody, and welcome back to crime in sports. Yay! Yay, indeed, Jimmy. Yay, indeed. My name is James Petro Gallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wiseman. Thank you, folks, so much for joining us today on another absolutely crazy edition of crime in sports.

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He's in prison for murder anyway. And then he had a huge escape attempt where they ended up murder a guard and another inmate as well. So awful shit. Yeah, he's as bad as it gets. Like this guy needs, they have him in a cage now. They need to find a smaller cage to put him in. Eventually, just Hannibal Lecter, this fucking guy.

It's all we can do with him, really. A dog kennel. It's all we can do. With one of those masks on, and he can't move. And you're inside of a doghouse. That would be maybe safe. So right away, let's start out with, this is to the newspaper on April 7, 2006, in the mailbag section.

And this is somebody talking some shit about Tommy and remembering the fallen prison guard. I think it's a friend of theirs. While Dwight Eagland gets all the attention with his courtroom antics and his interviews, I wish the news would give the attention to his victim instead.

Well, she's not as colorful at this point because she's dead. So that's why that happens. I would like to remember Darla Lathrim for more for the person she was than what happened to her on that tragic day in June 2003 at the Charlotte Correctional Institution. Darla was a kind and gentle person who truly cared about others. She was a gentle soul who wanted to bring others the word of Christ.

Oh, boy. She, or even as a preteen, Darla had a focus on what was important to her, and her life revolved around her family and friends as well as her religion. She was an angel walking this earth, and I feel blessed to have known her. I pray her family will be able to move past this awful event in their life. And while no parent who loses a child can truly recover, I pray they can celebrate her life until they can see her again. Jean Phillips from Cape Coral. Thank you, Jane. Thanks, Jean.

That's great. So right after that, May 28, 2006, the Charlotte prison that this all happened in is making some changes after this death. Oh. They said the type of violent offenders who killed corrections officer Darla Lathrim are now separated from the general prison population at the the Charlotte Correctional Institute, but there are more of them, more changes, that is. Shortly after the death, CCI became a facility designed to hold more dangerous inmates, but kept them apart from the general population. Now, close management inmates are held apart because their behavior threatens the safety or rights of others

and or the security of the prison, according to the DOC website. The types of jobs inmates can be assigned are limited now. they said they're in their cells for the most part. It was before those guys were getting normal jobs and shit. They said the prison still houses a number of nonviolent inmates to keep the prison running, handling such duties as food service, grounds, maintenance, and laundry. So the capacity of the prison is 131. The most recent figures showed there were about 250 inmates in the general population,

and the remainder were labeled as dangerous and separately confined. Oh. So that's not, that's most of. That's three quarters of the prisoners are dangerous. So that, yeah. That means that's the prison. The 250 people are in their own section. That's, you know what I mean?

That's not. Yeah. Three quarters of the people aren't in a special section. That's not. No. The VIP room isn't where everyone is in the club. Otherwise, that wouldn't be the VIP room. That's the point.

250 regular ass people shaking ass ain't a fucking. No. It's fucking weird. Overcrowded VIP section is not VIP at all. Jesus, why? It's down, no, downstairs. It's wide open down there. Why is it so crowded in here? Shit.

Can't sit on these velvet couches. This sucks. Inmates who have outstanding felony charges or have been convicted of capital or a sex offense, first degree murder, murder of a law enforcement officer or kidnapping cannot be placed in the general population at this close management facility. Dwight Eagland, the inmate convicted of murdering Lathrim, was in prison for another first-degree murder because he was in the general population in 2003. He was assigned to a construction work crew and given access to tools, which seems like a bad idea to give this guy a sledgehammer. Any tools at all? Yeah.

Well, I mean, he's dangerous enough with his hands. You're going to give him a hammer on top of it? Christ Almighty. So they said, since the transition, there have been no inmates that do not meet the new profile assigned to construction and maintenance works. quads. So there's that. June 17th, 2006, headline is, inmates' tape tells of prison murders. Oh, boy. Stephen V. Smith, he's like, please don't turn that V upside down and make everyone on earth hate me.

Stephen V. Smith clasped both hands to one side as if gripping a baseball bat. He says, quote, Tommy comes out of the room and he hits her while reenacting Tommy Eagland's attack on the prison officer. Quote, he hit her with the sledgehammer right above the eyebrow. Oh, Jesus Christ, man. Fuck. Right in the face. Remember, we were thinking, at least maybe if it was in the back of the head, she wouldn't saw it coming.

That's, uh, Smith said he removed Officer Darla Lathrim's radio and caught the prison keys, Eaglin, through him. He started to help drag the officer's body into the mop closet, but Eagland stopped him. He said, no, no, I got it. Go get the ladders for the escape. Friday, just three days before his trial is scheduled to begin, Smith took a courtroom full of people via videotape through the Charlotte Correctional Institution and described

two murders he's charged with committing. He repeatedly laughed as he watched himself on tape in court. Oh, my God. That's bad form, dude. Don't do that. He's like, look at me. I'm on TV. There's me.

I'm on the TV, everybody. Look. What guys, it's me. Yeah, like a kid in the 80s when you took them to like, you know, J.C. Penny and they saw that had the one camera set up that went all to the TVs. And you'd walk by it and walk back and put yourself on. Or you walk in a target and see the display TV that shows everybody walking. That too. Yeah.

Hey, there's me. There they are. It's us. Can't help but look at it for some reason. That's what he's doing. Circuit judge William Blackwell will rule whether the jury will view the video, uh, taped July 31st, 2003.

Wow. So Smith, Eagland and Michael Jones were all charged with two counts of first degree murder. They were part of a five-man work squad that we know all about. Um, England was convicted of the killings and sentenced to death, obviously. Smith was in prison for a previous murder as well.

He pleaded not guilty. So he hasn't been there yet. He is competent for trial. They ruled though. But this was the first time the public heard the gruesome details of the murders from the mouth of one of the killers. Smith pinned both homicides on Eagland, which is both convenient and believable. That's the problem. Yeah.

Smith could be sentenced to death if the prosecutors prove Lathrim or Fustin died during the escape attempt. The state does not have to prove Smith committed the actual killings because it's just all part of the act. Just happened. Yeah, it's the liquor store thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're both in there. Defense attorney, Paul Sullivan,

argued that the judge should suppress Smith's statements, according to the video, including the video recording, because they were not freely and voluntarily made. If you're taking people through a tape, look, here's this, here's that. It seems like you were in on the production. Also, he said it would be, quote,

very bad for my case. So I don't want to. That's the problem. I think that's the problem. This would be catastrophic, for my case, Your Honor. You're really making my job a lot harder here. It's not fair that he's in the DVD extras.

Yeah, it's just not fair. Smith gave his statements as a response to physical and psychological torment, fearing he would be harmed or killed if he did not cooperate, the lawyer wrote in a motion to the court. For at least a month, prison officers refused to provide him with soap, toilet paper, utensils, a toothpaste, a toothbrush, clothes, bedding, sheets, a towel or a blanket, the motion states. He was fed irregularly or not at all as well.

So they just haven't been, they just left him to die, basically. One law enforcement officer testified that he called the state inspector general's office when he heard about Smith's treatment. In the video, Smith said that the three inmates planned the escape for months building pieces of ladder whenever they could. But Eagland had to take care of, had to take care of before they left, he said. he had people to take care of. Eagland took the sledgehammer.

Upstairs to a dormitory, Fustin was in. When Smith got to the dorm, Eaglin was on his way with blood all over himself. Quote, Charlie was all a mess. I don't know, I know he wasn't moving. So he just beat a guy to death in his fucking bunk with a sledgehammer. At the end of the video, Smith said he would not testify in court because he did not want to be a snitch.

What do you think this video is, stupid? But Eagland said the same thing Friday, taking the stand and telling the court he would not participate in Smith's trial. And there's really nothing they can do to him. He's got the death penalty. So you can't make me talk, essentially. So now lawyers shuffle blame in prison guard slaying. The prosecutors say that Stephen Smith organized the escape team that ended up killing Darla. He planned his escape from there, and this is all him.

he recruited his sidekick, his buddy Michael Jones, and some muscle in Tommy Eagland. But he's the whole mastermind. So that's the whole thing. That's what they're trying to say. They said they knew they would only have one officer supervising them on the project. They knew the corrections officer would have to be eliminated. So Smith is just a lookout while Eaglin killed everybody. He tricked Lathrim into unlocking some ladders and led her to the spot where Eaglin would kill her.

That's all Smith said he did. I just tricked her and led her to her death. You know, nothing much. He said, Smith personally took office her lathrim on what would be her death march, the prosecutor said. After Eagland killed her, he grabbed the radio, Smith does. But the defense attorney, they take jurors on a different journey than that. Oh. They're like, listen, guys, that's their version.

And it's not right at all. They said, listen, Eagland, none of this was planned. escape, yes, but not murder. Eagland, quote, went berserk and started killing without warning. He's a psycho. Can't control it. Yep. He said, nope, they said the state is right when they said Mr. Smith was part of a plan to escape.

The plan was to escape. It was not to harm anyone. Dwight Eaglin, on his own, decided to kill. Which even if that's the case, you're still guilty. Yeah. If we go into a liquor store together to rob it and you just, start bucking shots off, whether it was planned or not. You're not in trouble, James.

We're both in trouble and the same exact trouble, as a matter of fact. And even if that guy shoots me, you're still in trouble. For sure. You didn't plan violence and you didn't plan on them inflicting violence, but you caused the situation that caused it. So you got to calm down, Jimmy. Stop doing this shit. I'm doing my best.

You're going to get me killed out here. Smith saw Eagland killed two people, the defense attorney said. Eaglin had possession of a sledgehammer. When Eagland told Smith it was time to go, he had no choice but to comply because he has a sledgehammer and he's dangerous. When corrections officers found the inmates, Eagland was trapped between the perimeter fences, quote, agitated, crazy and covered in blood, he said. I think that is definitely the name of this episode. It's a pretty good name. Agitated, crazy.

And what was it? Full of blood. Covered in blood. Yeah. Covered in blood. There we go. Excellent. So thank you, defense attorney Lombardo for the name of this episode.

Well done. So he said Smith was sitting calmly in the dormitory waiting for officers to come get him. Oh, he's just a shy retiring type. That's all. Smith was not upset because he had only tried to escape an offense that he had attempted in state prisons three times before his lawyer said. His calm state proves he didn't take part in killing anyone. or is that right he's a psychopath one or the other

he's in there for murder yeah he can kill two people including a fucking innocent woman and be calm as a cucumber two minutes later that's scarier than anything I'd rather have him

I'd rather have him be agitated crazy and covered in blood that I understand I'd go you'd have to get to that state to do what you did if you did it calmly you're fucked up wow so the the state is no longer

holding Smith responsible for inmate Fustin's murder. Smith was originally charged with both murders, but prosecutors dropped the second homicide charge. Just the guard now. The prosecutor said he would not discuss the decision while the trial is ongoing. And the defense said, quote, I'm not surprised because they never had any evidence that my client was ever involved in any way with Mr. Fustin's death. Right. Now, Fustin's sister, Rosie, said she was very disappointed. pointed to here Smith won't be tried for her brother's death. Quote, if he gets the death penalty, he's going to pay for what he did anyway.

Right. Yeah, Eaglin already got the death penalty, so all paid for. Not yet, but... I mean, yeah. He's definitely made a pledge. He's on his life. He's pledged something to the coffers, I would say, the way I would put it. June 25th, 2006, here we go.

It's jury is in and the jury finds him guilty of first degree murder. Stephen V. Smith, the buddy there. Yes, first degree murder of the guard. So he had been serving time for burglary kidnapping, sexual battery, robbery, and murder, Smith. Holy shit. Holy shit. That's a, that's a full house, isn't it? Pretty bad guy.

You got a hand dealt to you. That's all bad. That's the best full house going. I think that beats most people's. You fold usually. Yeah, it's, wow. Sexual battery, too. Fuck, I fold.

I can handle murder and kidnapping, but... I'll take all new cards, please. Holy shit. So during his sentencing, the court hears his mitigating evidence and his... Also, his non-mitigating evidence, but...

Wow, it's bad. He had almost as weird of a life as Tommy. quote, depraved act, stain the past of a man recently convicted of murdering a Charlotte Correctional Institution officer. Depraved acts stain. Some he committed. Some were committed against him, which is kind of how it works usually. It's usually committed against you before you commit any on anyone else. You don't get nice piece.

It's the dog theory. You know, it's Oscar. I have a dog named Oscar. He's a German short-haired pointer. and he is the happiest being that's ever walked the earth. No one has ever been mean to him. I know where he came from, they're nice people. No one's ever hit him, shoved him, even really yelled at him that mean.

So everyone is the nicest thing possible to Oscar. He loves everything. He loves. But if we got him and kicked the shit out of him for six months and then we're nice to him, he'd still be fucked up. He'd be barking at people, snapping at the UPS guy. Instead, he tries to get in his truck when you're nice to him. That's what happens.

So I think it's the same thing with people. You have to kick them a little bit before they're mean. It's generally, you got to, and it can be both ways, I imagine. I'll bet there's somebody that had a real great life that turned out to be a real piece of shit. But for the most part, if you're pretty good to a kid, they turn out to be pretty good people. Pretty good. Or they have some sort of organic mental disorder. You know what I mean that has nothing to do with anything.

Yeah. You can't fix anyway. Yeah, usually a sane person that's nice. I mean, they might fly off the handle after having five glasses of wine and kill their wife in their 40s or 30s or some shit like that. But they're not going to be a serial killer probably or, you know, something like that. Now, they say long before planning a prison escape for the general in general. In general. Everything we say this is like it's always 80 to 85%.

there's always an exception, there's always an actually, we get that. So everybody save your actuallys. Actually, we know there's one guy. I love an actually. There's a hundred of that. Yeah. Oh, the actually. Actually, you missed the one percent of something and you should have mentioned that.

Yeah, sometimes things happen. Yeah. They do. No shit, stupid. So long before planning a prison escape that resulted in the murder here, that's what happened to him. So here's what he did. Apparently, he killed an elderly woman with a screwdriver that we know about. He raped two girls, including his 14-year-old sister.

Oh, boy. He raped his ninth-grade or sister, which is nice. Further back, Smith's father beat his wife and sons and repeatedly raped his daughters. Well, there you go. That's what I mean. You don't rape your 14-year-old sister unless you've either had it done to you or have had it done in front of you. You have to be taught that generally unless you have some sort of organic mental disorder for the most part. So yeah, Smith's mother did nothing to protect them. This sounds familiar.

It's just like Tommy's like. It's the same thing, which leads to murder. The attorney said, that's the defense attorney trying to put him in the bed. His mother didn't protect him. Oh, God. The jury, like we said, found him guilty here. He could be punished by death or another sentence, obviously. So where is this? Okay. So in March 1990, Smith left his wife

and two children at a park in Broward County and took off on a friend's scooter to find a house to burglarize. Hey, you keep the kids here. No, no, play some badminton or something. I'm going to go rob some shit.

I just borrowed a getaway car that is a scooter. Yeah, it's a fucking scooter. That's from the assistant state attorney reading the information from his own sworn statement. Smith, looking for money to buy crack cocaine, it gets better and better. Scouted out several neighborhoods, the prosecutor said. Smith used a shovel to break into a home and was going through a closet when 75-year-old Blanche Costello came up behind him.

As she screamed and put up a fight, Smith beat the 80-pound woman. Oh, for heaven's sake. First of all, I love a 75-year-old. I love a woman whose age and weight are basically the same, and she's willing to put up a fight. That's impressive to me. You know, that's... Wow, that's a bad bitch.

Okay. As she screamed, my God, Laporte said, reading from Smith's statement, quote, I hit her again. I kicked her. I kicked her. I kicked her again. Then he spotted a screwdriver, quote, I just pressed down and it went right in her.

Oh, of course. thin old people's skin they have. Wow. Then he took the money. He was shocked. He surprised by that. Didn't think it would go right in there like that. Wow.

I can't believe it. Unbelievable. Then he took the money and bought cocaine and smoked it in the park with his wife and his friend. Nice word. No word on where the kids went during that. In April 1990, Smith burglarized another Broward County home looking for drug money. they said, he found a 12-year-old girl in her bed, put a gun to her head and raped her.

Oh, dear. Okay. You know, Dwight's a fucking Tommy's a bad guy. He's a piece of shit. He's a murderer. I think Tommy also has a lot of brain damage. There's something wrong. Number one, I think his dad probably caused tons of brain damage.

He was knocked completely unconscious more times than he can count as a child, which isn't good for you as it develops. And then he's a boxer constantly getting, and a type of boxer who didn't, defense was not a priority for him. No. No, he wasn't sending off. This fucking guy is a sick bastard, period. I don't see Tommy raping a 12-year-old at gunpoint.

You know what I mean? Wow. Everything I did was wrong, Morgan read from a statement Smith made to investigators. In December 1981, Smith was convicted of raping his sister, testified Rhode Island State prosecutor Jack McMahon. He took her to an isolated area. for a driving lesson, then put a knife to her throat and raped her. His own sister. His 14-year-old sister.

What, terrible. Dude. Terrible person, obviously. But my God, while learning to drive. I'm going to, it's a very brotherly thing. I'm going to, that is disgusting. Wow. How is your, wow, you got to be fucked up in the head for your instinct to not be to

protect your 14 year old sister. Right. Like at all costs. Like if someone tried to do that to her, you'd murder them in the street and be, and do it with a smile. Like this is crazy. Wow. Smith's behavior mimics his father. The attorney said at the age of five or six,

Smith would hear sounds of his father raping his sisters on a regular basis. Shit. Very nice. Jesus Christ. Perfectly normal. This is disgusting. So they said, this is the attorney again, said his attorney,

this chaotic dysfunctional lifestyle went on for years and years. Smith's brother, Charles Stoneman Smith, testified to their upbringing via a video recorded at the adult correctional institution in Cranston, Rhode Island, where, of course, he's in prison too because everyone in this family is either raped or in prison. Wow, that is disgusting. Charles Smith, his brother, is in prison

for stabbing his 16-year-old. stepdaughter to death. That's why he's in prison. Oh, my God. He murdered his teenage stepdaughter. Yeah. Why is... Wow.

They're so vulnerable. Why are they... They injure Rob, Steele, and hurt the most vulnerable people. Yes. It's just... Because that's what they've seen. The worst people. You can take advantage of those people.

And think about this. That's his stepdaughter. That means think about that young dead girl's mother what the fuck she probably went through to end up being attracted to this scumbag who'd come in and kill his fucking daughter. So, I mean, it's just a cycle that just keeps going and going and going and it's exponential. Just keeps on giving. It's exponential. You do this to one person. Then he does this to more people.

And then he did it to three. And then three people go out. And then they fucking do it. And it's like it's just this crazy. It's like a disease. Never stops. No. It's a fucking pandemic.

God damn. So Charles Smith testified from prison for killing his 16-year-old stepdaughter that his father came home drunk and beat his two sons every day. That's nice. At age five, Charles Smith saw his father kick open the front door, throw his and Stephen's mother onto the ground and force her to do sexual acts. I'm going to rape her in front of my kids. That's nice. That's excellent. So Smith ran to his room and hit under his bed.

Another time, Charles Smith accidentally walked in on his parents having sex. No word if it's consensual or not. We're not sure of that. His father kicked him in the groin so hard that the boy had to undergo three surgeries to have his testicles removed from inside of his body. He kicked the kid's nuts up inside him. People will say, I'm going to kick you so hard you're going to taste your balls or whatever. but this guy actually did it.

It did it. To a five-year-old. Probably while nude, right? I assume with his dick swinging around. God damn. With his mom dripping off him, he fucking kicked his son. And then he probably went back and fucked her more. Finished, yeah, you got to finish.

He probably kicked him, shoved the kid out of the room, slammed the door, and then said, all right then, and got back to it. That doesn't end the day. No, that doesn't add any of this shit. Wow. His mother waited three months to take him to the. the doctor, by the way. What?

You can say his parents. Don't blame that on his mother because his father could have taken him too, but still. That's unbelievable. Wow. Still, Charles Smith said he and his older brother, Stephen, received the brunt of his father's violence, if you don't count raping the sisters constantly, which I would count, actually. Carol Miller, Lathrim's sister, that's the dead prison guard, said Thursday was the first time she heard about Stephen Smith's traumatic childhood.

She said it seemed like his whole family must be crazy. I didn't think families could be that horrible. Well, you've never listened to this show because they are. They exist. But Miller and her father, David, said Stephen Smith's past does not excuse his crimes. David said, I think each person has a will. You can't blame the circumstances. The person makes the decision.

To a point. To a point. If this is what they came up in and they've never gotten any help for it, which as once you're an adult, it's on you at that point. Yeah. We feel bad for them until they're an adult or until they lash out outside of their house. Then we don't feel bad anymore. If the behavior matches what you've seen, then yeah, you can certainly blame the advice. Fuck, yeah, you can.

But I guess once you're an adult, then it's your responsibility to get whatever help you need. But you don't even know you need help because you just think that's normal. But your mental health is your responsibility at the end of all of it. Yep, exactly. It's tough when you bring kids into it, though, it's harder because you go, well, obviously it's not there. They don't know any better, but then as soon as they turn 18, we're like, now you should know everything. And you should have perspective on your own mental health and you should know. And that's just not realistic.

But there's no way to fix that either. You can't like it. No. And that's why therapy is good for everyone because then a professional. You'll find it. You'll tell you the level of fucked up that you are. Maybe that's it. Maybe we add that into school.

Like, one class is therapy. It's about the length of a therapy session, a class. Yeah. You have eight periods. One of them's therapy. It's 50 minutes.

Yeah. Hire some fucking psychologists. I would love that if they would do that. That would be great. Everybody could use it. Yeah. Just to at least talk about your shit. Yeah.

Yeah. And then they'll tell you, P.S., you are super. fucked up. You should be here every week. But then you get those skeptics that are just like, oh, they just want to pay their bills. Well, while they likely do, they also don't want you out there shooting up school. Yeah. And I don't mean like elementary school. I'm talking ninth grade, 14 on. You know, you're freshman. I don't want a seven-year-old going in there. They don't have anything to talk about. Talking about paw patrol wasting their tax dollars. I'm not interested in that.

Coming in with a venty frat. Yeah. But if it's a kid like this who's getting kicked in the balls because, you know, you saw his dad fucking his mom. That kid needs a therapist, but most of them. Tell you what, if you've had your, you're not surgically removed from your, after an injury forced on you by your parent. Yeah. You had your testicles, your testicles removed from your spleen. You're probably fucked up. You're not good. No, not at all. Jesus Christ. So, anyway, the prosecutors here, Michael Jones is on the, on the line as well here. Old Mike Jones here.

He's accused of the two murders, and they agreed to a plea bargain. Oh. But a circuit judge insisted the case go to trial instead, even though the prosecutors and defense agreed on a plea bargain. I hate when they do that. Listen, we agreed to it. Shut the fuck up. No, we like trials around here. We're going to do a trial.

The judge reviewed two recent mental health evaluations of Jones and deemed him still competent to proceed. a circuit judge court pointed out that mental health experts have repeatedly said that Jones is rational, even though his sanity has been questioned since the murders. Psychologists all say, quote, he's malingering, faking. So there you go. So somehow, they allow him to plead guilty after that, though. They allow him to plead guilty, but to first degree murder. It must have been the charge the judge wasn't allowing. Maybe it wouldn't allow him to plead to second degree or something.

He's already in for life since the 1988 rape, but now he's no longer eligible for parole. Really? Yeah. They said short of being involved in the escape attempt, there isn't much proof that he participated in the killings. Smith didn't say he did. Dwight's not talking, Tommy. So they said even if the state had taken him to trial, prosecutors would have a hard time getting him the death penalty because there's no proof. So it would be really hard.

Still, at least two of Lathrim's sisters were disappointed that he didn't get. get the same sentence. Quote, I still think he deserves it. This is kind of bittersweet. Okay. Now, also, Stephen Smith, by the way,

Stephen Smith, you, sir, may fuck off death penalty. Oh. He gets the death penalty. Yeah. So, yeah. His life is

flattered and hammered shit in the words of Ellsworth. It is not good at all. It gets worse for Michael Jones, though. How so? Well, July 26, 2008, he's dead.

Oh, fuck. So, way worse. Yeah. He's died. He died of natural causes at 51, which I'm like, what? Huh? 51.

What is this fucking... That's a strong grabber at 51. Yeah, what are we in 1486? What fucking year is this? Natural causes at 51. That's a strong... I mean, he's been institutionalized for a while, So it could be institutionalized diet that did.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I guess hardening of the arteries. That's not natural causes. That's just. Yeah, you have to, like, if he had, like, a heart disease or if he had diabetes or if he, that's a, that's a cause of death. That's not natural cause. Do you have a genetic brain disorder that gave him an aneurism? That's, I mean, technically natural causes.

Yeah. Technically, a tumor is natural. I mean, nobody implanted it in you. It's not made a metal or anything, but that doesn't mean it's a natural cause. Yeah. Either that's all we get. June 5th, 2009, Tommy is appealing here. He's appealing his death sentence.

And the Florida Supreme Court ruled 6-0 against him. So he gets fucked there. Yeah. This is just the automatic appeal because it's a death case. He gets nothing. June 2010, there's a neurological examination. Oh. This is very interesting.

Thomas Hyde, MD, Ph.D. is a behavioral neurologist who currently works as chief a chief operating officer at the Lieber Institute for Brain Development. Great. Your old job, remember?

Yeah. Yeah, that was a tough one. You got fired pretty fast from that one. Yeah, they were like, nope, nope, nope. A private nonprofit research organization associated with Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. A behavioral neurologist is a neurologist who studies the diseases of the brain

that affect behavior. Neurology is a medical subspecialty that studies brain diseases and behavioral neurologists focus on those aspects of diseases that affect the brain and manifest themselves as abnormal behavior. It's a very interesting job, but you have to be like very sciencey, I would imagine, because you have to be like a medical doctor. Sure, yeah. That's a lot. To understand it. Yeah.

So June 2000, you can't just be a lame and go, that sounds interesting. I'm going to get into that. Hey, where do I go for this? Is there like a community college course I can take down at the old junior college? That sounds like it pays well. Yeah, that sounds really interesting. Huh. Well, let me look this up.

Oh, you need a lot of schooling. Okay, never mind. So in June 2010, Dr. Hyde conducted a neurological examination of Tommy Eaglin, including a neuropsychiatric history to reach some general conclusion about his neuro-psychiatric status. Right. I'd say fucked up probably here. In addition to obtaining a detailed history, he also performed a detailed neurological examination that included a mini mental state examination as well as cranial nerve, motor, gait, and sensory examinations and a limited general physical examination. Hyde diagnosed Eaglin with bipolar disorder, not otherwise specified, as well as post-traumatic stress disorder, which, duh, I mean, anybody could have done that.

maybe you don't have to go to that much school for this. I think I could have... Sounds as though it's... I mean, you could just grab a vague diagnosis right out of a book. Yeah, I would think. You don't even barely need a book. No. You could hear that shit just in conversation and be like,

yeah, that's PTSD, right? Just got it. They said, Dr. Hyde also found Eaglin had a history of repeated closed head injuries. Here we go. And was at risk for CTE. He found no indication that they can't test for that here. That's not one. You need lots of different tests to do that.

He also found no indication of antisocial personality disorder, noting that Eagland's history of bipolar as well as rapid mood fluctuations would make it very difficult to diagnose such a disorder. He was diagnosed with conduct disorder as a child in 93. Many children diagnosed with conduct disorder do not later develop antisocial personality disorder. That's not one causes the other. They go hand in hand. But the CTE thing was what he's saying is this is what I can find as far as mental illness, but that may be caused by CTE also. That could all be a root of CTE.

CTE could be the root of all this problem that's causing mental illness at this point. By the way, have you seen Tony Dorset lately? Is he fat? No, I wish he was fat. I wish he was fat and could talk like he didn't have Marriott. in his mouth. This poor man, Tony Dorset is fucked up.

He did an interview. At the Hall of Fame? He did an ESPN did an interview with him and he's not like cognitively. I guess it's not looking. He sat. Everyone thought he was drunk, but he was, he was, yeah, it's fucking sad. Maybe that's been going on a while because when I met him, he seemed, bro. Just, he was so fucked.

What I assumed was hammered. Because everybody at this party was so hammered. He might have hammered too. Disgusting. He's always disgusting. He was disgusting. He might have been hammered too. Yeah.

And but this is, yeah, it's sad, dude. So. I just assumed he was just super fucked up. That's a running back. He may have been going through this a while. That's a small guy who took an awful lot of hits. He's not a big man. He's not a big man.

And he took a lot of hits. Yeah. Back in the day. And that was... He played for the Cowboys. You know, he was doing... Right. Hard nose.

We played a win and we bleed for this shit. And he came out. This pussy shit we got got today. I think 77 was his rookie year. So back then there was... That's right. You could literally have a concussion, be out cold. They'd give you smelling salts to get you back on the line to play the next play back then.

Look at the, what is it, Tom Waddle for the Bears, I believe? Yeah. There's a Monday Night Football game. game from the 90s. It's like the mid-90s where he gets knocked out fucking cold in the end zone. I'm talking on the ground out completely cold, smelling salts, the whole deal. He is out three plays later. Catching a pass and getting hit again. It's fucking insane. That's how they used to play it. This little man got his bell rung a lot. Yeah, he's a running back. So every goddamn play he's taking a hit that he catches, that he gets the ball or hands it off. So then there's a sight of

evaluation. This is David Picker, Picard, MD, a psychiatrist with expertise in mental illness who specializes in schizophrenia, psychosis, neuropsychology. He also testifies here as a practicing psychiatrist. He prescribes medications, including psychotropic medications, and he conducted a psychiatric evaluation in Stark, Florida on Tommy in 2010. Also got background materials, including school records, employment records, previous doctors reports, and reviewed a TV interview of Eagland taken at the time of the trial. Depositions from guards and inmates at the correctional institution at the time of the offense reviewed raw data from the other guy who just did his evaluation and all this shit. Part of his evaluation performed a mental status exam,

typical in normal psychiatric interviews. The purpose of the exam was to assess Tommy's clinical state at the time of the interview. Specifically, Dr. Piccar wanted to assess whether Eaglin was psychotic. Oh. Which, I mean, I think it's, you're splitting hairs here. His actions are psychotic, so what's the difference? Yeah, I mean, he's certainly imprisoned for a long time for some psychotic shit. Yeah.

But, I mean, if you do psychotic things, it's like you do, therefore you are, I think, at that point, right? Like, you could say you're not a pedophile. but if you went out and fucked a bunch of kids, right. You're still a pedophil. That's the definition of a pedophile. It's pedophilic behavior. Yeah.

So I don't know what the difference is here. So we're like, yeah, but I don't like kids. I'm not into them. I just fuck them. You know what I mean? Please don't isolate that. Yeah, they were just there, you know.

I was looking for gals. I found this. Yeah. I like 40-year-olds with big racks, but, you know, I found a nine-year-old boy. What do you want for me? I'm only human. I don't want to fuck me, so I fucked this guy.

Oh, this. Disgusting. So, Eaglin was found by Dr. Pickar to be fully oriented, and he did not demonstrate any psychotic symptoms during the interview, which I would hope you could at least control your psychosis during an interview with your psychiatrist. Manage it for some questions. Just for that much. Dr. Piccar found that Eaglin was paranoid above a median level, so more than normal, that his speech was somewhat pressured. his mind was active and that he was highly communicative. Right.

So he's not completely shut down. He found that Eaglin is, quote, somebody with a lot of impulsivity. And he said that that means brain-related behaviors that result in poor modulation. Right. Yeah. Frontal lobe damage a lot of times, too. It's basically what CTE does. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's frontal lobe damage. That's where all your, maybe I shouldn't do that shit is. That's all up there. Right. It's decision-making. and reactions to decisions. Yeah. Every time you've ever said,

maybe that's not such a good idea. Right. That was that right there. That was that part that you need for later. You know how you managed your emotions? That was that part of them. That was that part of them. Yeah, exactly.

You didn't just get irrationally frustrated and make a rash decision to injure other people. That's because you used your breath. You used that part that went, ooh, no, bad call. Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. That's the part that Aaron Hernandez forgot about. Well, that's the part that was mushing on his brain as well.

Yeah. That's the part that also alcohol makes not work anymore. Right. It completely. Yeah, completely it just pushes that. Basically takes it and goes, you shut the fuck up and pushes it like in a bathtub and holds it down. Pushes it under about two, three ounces of alcohol. Yeah, it goes, you get under there and you take that vodka and you like it.

It's a good idea to find. this woman without a condom for no reason. It's a very good idea. Yes, she only has four teeth, but God damn it, better than a nine-year-old. And that's my only other option, as we've discussed. Don't we want to come? Don't we want to come tonight? In something?

Instead of disgusting. So, now, as a 12-year-old, they say he exhibited types of behavior starting from early childhood. 12-year-old, he also had neuropsychological testing. The testing established that Eagland had a very high IQ, and at the time of the testing did not have any cognitive deficits in any particular areas. That's when he was a child, I believe. Dr. Picard distinguished between antisocial tendencies and impulsivity. According to Dr. Piccar's assessment, he did not exhibit antisocial acts as a child,

just impulsivity, which also can be affected by your dad constantly. punching you in the face. Dr. Picard diagnosed Eagland with bipolar not otherwise specified a major mental illness. He found that's in the court docs. It's not my opinion. I didn't just say a major mental illness.

That's according to the doctor. Hey, I have to specify because otherwise people get mad at me. People, everything, they think I said the thing. It's like, I'm reading a thing that someone said. This is not my thing. Stop fucking around with your bullshit. Yeah, like I'm, I'm, diagnosing him. I'm not a psychiatrist. I don't know what the fuck is going on here.

He found Eaglin has bipolar manic depressive illness with histories of impulsivity, highs, manic or hypomanic, and periods of depression. Bipolar. So back in the day, it was manic depression illness. They always called it back then. If you don't know bipolar, I think everybody knows by now what that is, but characterized by changes in mood, one bringing euphoria and then depression. You get the manics and then you get the lows. Yeah. So they alternate and a person can present with depression multiple times before they experience a mania. And a lot of times they don't like to take medicine because they like the mania. The mania feels good. It feels like you're getting shit done.

And you feel great on a manic run. Manias and hypomania manifest in pressured speech, intense goal-oriented activity, grandiosity, poor sleep and very active. activity that may be harmful to oneself. He historically exhibited these characteristics and was well documented in the records reviewed by this doctor. In addition to bipolar disorder, the doctor found his history of concussions contribute to his behavior and to his mental illness because that only exacerbates your mental illnesses. The doctor also made a provisional diagnosis of PTSD.

He just read his shit and was like, there's no way a human doesn't have PTSD after all that. Okay. Pretty sure you've got some shit lingering. Yeah, his dad used him as a speedbag, so that's got to be bad. Dr. Piccar was struck by the extent of abuse, Eaglin suffered as a child, as well as how his history of mental illness was documented. Or how well his history of mental illness was documented. As a child, he went through periods of crying and a lot of depression. That's only because he got taken away and put in play that they would evaluate him there.

He engaged in headbanging and irritability. As early as age 10, he was identified as having mental health issues, which I think that's about as early as you can diagnose anything. I don't know how you wouldn't, yeah. If a kid's acting weird when they're seven, you're just like, kids are weird when they're seven. I don't know. You have to wait until they're about 10 where they kind of even out a little bit,

I would think anyway. I don't know. So in addition to his developing mental illness, he also suffered head trauma as a high school football player, and to a great extent as a gold glove and professional boxer. To a great extent. I mean, those are two very obvious places that you get that. Those are the ones right there.

You add to that a whole childhood of constantly being punched in the head. He's done everything possible to have ZTE. Like, it's impossible if he doesn't. Yeah, been looking for it. Yeah. They said head trauma that one receives in boxing is not a trivial matter towards for anybody, but in particular if the individual has underlying psychiatric problems. Not good.

And they said concussions to the brain can occur without loss of consciousness as well, which a lot of people don't realize. I think you have to be unconscious. Closed head trauma and the resulting concussion to the brain exacerbates manic episodes in individuals who suffer from manic depressive illnesses. The head trauma creates its own level of impulsivity in these individuals as well. Yeah, because your frontal lobe is getting mashed down. Drugs such as Prozac are also used to treat impulsivity in individuals who suffer from brain damage as a result of concussions to the brain. So I didn't realize that.

That's how they're treating CT is with Prozac. Oh, wow. And I've heard they give them that, but I always thought it was for the massive depressions these guys get because they get hugely depressed with these head injuries. So I thought that's what they were getting into for. Because they're frustrated because they don't know what to do. Yeah. If you left your house, drove to the store, stopped at a light, and genuinely forgot where. the fuck you were.

Didn't realize these are familiar surroundings, didn't know where you were going or where you came from. You would get fucking angry too. Probably. Anybody would. You'd get. Can't imagine you can't. That would be so frustrating.

And especially if you're, old people seem to sometimes be able to take it in stride of like, well, getting old. I don't know. You know what I mean? I've heard that. My cram is so funny. They just take dementia as like, well, that's what I got going on today. Whatever they got, something sticking out of their rib cage today.

Well, I got a tumor today. I don't know. It's just whatever happens they're expecting. Young people can't take that. She's losing her hearing and she can't remember. Oh, that's amazing. My grandpa and I are standing next to her talking and then we'll look over to her for her two cents. She goes, I can't hear either of you fuckers.

So you say something. She says what? You repeat it. Then she answers the wrong thing because she's got dementia. Then you go, what? And she says what? And you guys. That's a frustrating conversation.

Yeah. We took my grandfather to the doctor, and then that afternoon I came over to the house to bring him slushies or some shit. And I was like, that was wild seeing him at the doctor this morning, right? She's like, we went to the doctor tonight. And I was like, he did. And she was like, what did you go for? Like, lady, what do you do? You were there.

You were there, motherfucker. Drink this. She's like, I can't remember shit anymore. I'm like, remember. It was this morning. Jesus Christ. Yeah, you don't need to remember. You still have a sticker on that says, visitor.

He's still wearing the bracelet. There are clues here. Unbelievable. So they're using Prozac. Now, Dr. Picard reviewed Dr. Harvey's neuropsychological testing. The testing showed that Tommy's IQ had dropped, which is indebted. of, quote, focal damage in processing speed as a result of head trauma. So he's like kind of, you know, anecdotally diagnosing him with brain damage here.

Right. He also reviewed in other doctor's findings. Both experts solidified his diagnoses, he said. Eagland was incarcerated for most of his adulthood, and Dr. Piccar was impressed with the level of care and organization by the Pinellas County Jail and Department of Corrections to identify his diagnosis. follow his diagnosis and manage his condition. That's because he's dangerous. They wouldn't do any of that shit. If he was meek in 110 pounds and sat in the corner and shut the fuck up,

they wouldn't do any of that. They wouldn't care. This guy hurts people. Yeah, this guy's a, you better keep him under control or he is a problem. And for the guards, too. Give him this fucking medication. I don't want him taking a swing at me. Who cares?

As an inmate, he was treated with appropriate medications for bipolar disorder. From 98 through 2000, his bipolar disorder was charged. treated with depicote, yeah, Depakot, Prozac, and Ellaville. So these are, you know. Stout medications. Especially the trio there.

Yeah. While he was incarcerated at the Pinellas County Jail, the jail's initial psychiatric assessment of Eagland documents his extensive history of mental illness. Jail records again document that as early as age 10, he was treated for depression again. like we talked about impulsivity, impulsivity and for anger that this treatment included medication. As a young adult, he was prescribed Prozac for many manic episodes.

He further reported at the time of the Pinellas County offense that he was on Prozac, alcohol, and coke. Alcohol and Coke. I don't know what that does with the Prozac, but I don't know if he found a cocktail that worked for him here, or if those things all counteract each other and don't work on. You're not meant to drive. drink when you're on antipsychotics for sure.

But antidepressants aren't helped along either without alcohol. Like people like I've heard doctors say like if someone's on an antidepressant, they have a couple glasses of wine once in a while or something like that. But they shouldn't be. Manage alcohol intake is what they say. Yeah, not I get shit-faced. You know, I go out and have 20 drinks and a bunch of Coke on top of it. I don't think because God knows what the fuck that does too.

Holy shit. I can't call it. Wow, imagine. I'd love to take a tour, like, wow, have like a backpack on and look around his brain while that's going on. So the Prozac's doing, oh, here comes the booze. Watch out. Oh, oh, no, the Coke's coming. It's like a tidal wave. Shit's going crazy. It's all sorts of shit lighten up. Those monkeys dancing are because there's cocaine in here. That's what causes monkeys to dance. At the time of the assessment, the jail personnel considered bipolar disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, and history of substance abuse as possible diagnoses. the jail prescribed depa coat and Ellaville is part of his treatment plan.

However, the next month, Eaglin asked to be placed in segregation because, quote, his head isn't right. That's for sure. Hey, if this guy comes up to me and goes, my head isn't right. Put me up, you, we'll lock you away as long as you want us to, sir. Here you go. My head isn't right. I need segregation. Yeah, you do.

Yes, you do. What's the Hunter Thompson line about, fuck, it's so funny about, you. about, you know, because I wanted to take my head off, unscrew my neck, and unscrew my head from my neck and take a look at what makes it work or some shit. When he was tripping on acid. That's the problem. My head isn't right. So he was afraid he would hurt someone, hurt another inmate, he said.

He was also considered to be a suicide risk because his head wasn't right. Right. He was referred to a mental health professional at the jail, and he was prescribed valproic acid, a generic form of depicoat. That's all that is. The jail monitored his medication level through a series of blood test to make sure it was working

and he's taking it. According to the jail records, he took his mental condition very seriously and they very assertively treated him with medication. That's the other thing too is a lot of inmates are very, they fight any sort of mental health treatment as well. They don't want any part of it.

So some guys do and they don't help them, so it goes both ways. However, as of May 98, Eaglin reported that the depocote caused him to shake and stutter, which is not good. Yeah, because that's a strong one. He was again diagnosed with bipolar disorder in October that same year, and he again requested medical attention. He said, I need to speak with you about my anger management. I'm angry for hardly anything. I snap into bad moods.

My moods swing a lot again. Oof, that's dangerous. The request is indicative of the serious. of his medical condition. However, there's also an indication that Eagland does not suffer from antisocial personality disorder. Oh. That's what they keep saying. They don't think it's antisocial personality. We can rule that out, I think, by now. Everybody since he was 10. He's just a threat to everything and everyone around him. Yes. It's just the other things causing him to have symptoms that sort of mirror that, I guess. The jail continued to prescribe depocote and monitor his blood levels

through February of 2000. After his conviction and sentence in Pinellas County, he was evaluated by the Department of Corrections on January 23, 2001, again diagnosed with bipolar, as well as 304.8 polysubstance abuse. I guess that's like the code. 3048 is a polys substance abuse, meaning multiple substances.

Yeah, multiple things. Poohs, Coke. Yeah. February 2001 through April, 2003, the Department of Corrections prescribed a variation of medication to Eaglin in an effort to treat and manage the bipolar, including, Jesus, this is in two years. Depicote Tegritol, which I thought Tegritol was for seizures or something. I think it's an anti-seizure, but it can also be used for anti-anxiety possibly. Depakote, Tegretol, lithium, certraline, which is I guess a Prozac derivative.

Okay. And fluozoatein or prozac, one of the two. Prozac and fluozatine are the same thing? Apparently, yeah, you can give them one or the other. And certraline is a cousin of Prozac, apparently. And then lithium is lithium. Integritol, I believe, was originally a seizure medication, but they used it for other things. And then Deppocode is Deppico.

Okay. However, as of March 2003, he was not receiving any medication. Really? You can't go from all that to nothing. Unmedicated in the joint. Yikes. Prior to stopping his medication, he had not engaged in any violent episodes for quite some time. But in April, he was placed in special confinement for fighting in the prison.

As soon as his meds wore off, he was ready to fucking throw down again. In June 2003 is when he tried to escape for. prison. So he was only off meds for three months when all this went down. That's, oh, boy. Man. He requires so much. You can't do that.

You can't just take that shit out of someone's bloodstream. Yeah, he requires a lot. The doctor said the stopping of psychotropic medication severely changes the chemistry in the brain landscapes, abs so fucking looting, especially since he was under control. You had it balanced and now it's all fucked up. Um, the doctor opined that prison escape, uh, was a manic suicide attempt by Eagland. Oh. Which, I don't know if it was a man.

I think it was a manic attempt at something. It's certainly a manic attempt, but it's, it's also, I'm getting out or getting shot. It wasn't just a, it wasn't just an escape. Somebody got hurt. Yes. Yeah. They mean like the, you know, the attempt itself, the whole thing was sort of a manic suicide. attempt that he wanted to get shot by the guards, but he also probably wanted to escape.

So either one would work out. Either way, I'm leaving here today. Right. I'm getting out of here. Within a matter of weeks prior to the escape attempt, Eagland lost his foster mother. He reported he wanted to die and stopped taking his bipolar medication as well. Not good. At the time of the crime, Eaglin was mixed, it was in a mixed state of paranoia, and depression. His escape attempt was grandiose, not well organized. and did not correspond with his level of intelligence.

I don't know, that fucking ladder sounded pretty ingenious. Yeah. That's pretty amazing. So that was pretty organized there. Well thought out. Yeah.

While the other two prisoners ran back inside during the offense, Eagland continued running toward the fence. The doctor concluded that Eagland suffers from a major mental illness

and his history, the history and development of his mental illness is surprisingly well documented. Most people don't have all this shit since they're 10. Yeah.

They don't get it till later on when they get in trouble. They said, so from a point of view of mitigation and his behavior, tragic behavior and dangerous behavior, it's the real thing. So this guy is coming from his fucked up brain. This is not bullshit. You know, he all, nope, he recommended a neurological evaluation. Okay. Find out how mushy his brain is.

Yeah. So 2012, he's back in court as his attorneys introduce evidence. they hope would lead to a new trial or lighten a sentence. New trial. New trial. Wow. His attorney said Monday that more evidence should have been presented during the penalty phase of the 2006 murder,

including information about his past and mental state. But that would still only strike down his death penalty, not his conviction. That's the problem with that. They had him and his brother testifying, talking about all the horrors that we've gone over. I guess a chief petty officer in the Navy, Kenneth Eagland told the court, Kenneth is another brother, I guess. Yes, the only one not in prison currently.

He's in the Navy. See what I mean? They had to go either in prison or this guy said, I have no structure. He went in the fucking Navy and gave himself some structure. But, yeah, these kids weren't just going to go off to college and get jobs in the white collar sector of shit, you know. He said most interactions with their father were marked by bursts of anger and violence. In his tears, Kenneth pleaded with Justine, Judge Christine Grider to be able to touch his brother as he finished his testimony and exited the courtrooms, but Bailiffs denied his request. Okay.

Eaglin is serving a life sentence. Yes, we knew that. Okay. 2012, a meeting with Dr. Hyde. Yes, literally, Dr. Hyde. What? Yeah. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

This is Dr. Hyde. So we've mixed them into, okay. All right. Dr. Hyde met with Eagland for a second time in 2012, given the complexity of his case and that he has two major psychiatric disorders as well as a complicated neurological history, including a single seizure as an adult while on wellbutrin, chronic traumatic, well, CTE, closed head injury and extensive history of football and boxing injuries. This doctor diagnosed him with PTSD based on his verbal and physical abuse as a child. And he also spoke with Eaglin. All the records described a childhood of abuse and deprivation starting at a very early age. Dr. Hyde observed, quote,

in all my years of studying cases, including working at an inner city hospital, St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington, D.C., this is one of the most disfutable. functional families I've ever encountered. Wow. We're talking, you could crack epidemic. Crack epidemic, D.C. This family's more fucked up than that. Wow.

A severe individual trauma as well as repeated trauma during his early childhood. These symptoms include frequent nightmares, nightmares, flashbacks, possible fugue states. Dr. Hyde explained that fugue states are symptomatic of PTSD and have dissociative episodes whereby the individual is conscious but not aware of everything that's going on in their surroundings or their behavior during that period of time. Kind of like zoning out is the way I would say. Yeah. The second interview with Eaglen that Dr. Hyde did in 2012,

Eagland described PTSD-related symptoms, including nightmares and disturbing dreams since childhood, specifically dreams where he's punching. and talking in his sleep, blanking out when angry or frustrated, flashbacks, and blackouts known as fugue states. He also experienced self-destructive behavior related to PTSD, including headbutting and burning himself.

Oh. The doctor opined that Eagland's escape attempt at Charlotte was directly related to his bipolar disorder. How about the murders? He still can't kill people. Try to escape all you want, but don't kill anybody with some poor lady

with a sledgehammer. that's fucked up. Dr. Hyde confirmed the pretrial diagnosis of bipolar disorder and explained the relationship between Eagland's bipolar and post-traumatic stress disorder. The relationship is typical in individuals who experience high levels of stress in early childhood. The extensive abuse, Eagland suffered from early childhood, in addition to abandonment by his mother at infancy, is related to this finding. This guy opines that his bipolar disorder is a chronic condition, which should be medicated. As a result of his condition,

Eagland suffers for mood swings and depressive episodes. And he also says, in patients with a history of bipolar disorder, the use of Prozac can make them manic. It kills the depressive part, but the manic shit then is all there is left and lights that shit up. He said 30% of patients with bipolar disorder

have serious substance abuse problems that often are either self-medication for the depressive episodes or fueling their bipolar manic feelings. Yeah? Yeah. If you do a bunch of Coke, you can kickstart yourself

from depressed to manic pretty fucking quickly. Wow. And I think that might like, you know, start a wheel rolling in your brain, basically. Now you're up on that. But then also,

when you stop taking the Coke and your serotonin drops and then what? Yeah. I guess you have the Prozac. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure how that works. I'm a scientist here.

He said... I don't have that kind of damage, I guess. not like this no i don't think so they said he was feeling manic on the day of the murders of the guard he had racing thoughts he was feeling high on top of the world he'd been suffering from insomnia which again is a if you're manic you don't like to sleep he was getting prozac from the other inmates because it made him feel high and he'd been taking it plus week he'd been taking it oh the past week and crystal meth in the days before the murder oh my god unquote Within a reasonable degree of medical certainty, he had a manic episode that was either coming on by itself or was precipitated or exacerbated by these drugs.

He believes that if Eaglin was properly medicated at the correctional facility, the offense would have been prevented. If they kept an eye on it, made sure he took a shit and all that. Dr. Hyde testified that Eaglin is at an extremely high risk for CTE, given his history of childhood had trauma as well as football. boxing career and his particular boxing style, which like we said is not exactly flight Mayweather. Yeah, it's eaten fucking punches. So the medical profession, quote, has a much better understanding that chronic blows to the head, even without loss of consciousness, can create cumulative brain damage, which can result in changes in cognition, behavior, balance, and other neurological functions. Eaglin's high school football was likely the start of his CTE, given

his tendency to lead with his head on many tackles, which he was known for just spearing people with his head. That's, you know, it's, he was like the Dennis Planck of fucking high school. And it certainly amplified the condition. This technique is now illegal in high school, college and professional. It's a spearing, it's called. Yeah, you can't do that. Dr. Hyde spoke with Eagland's former boxing coach about Tommy's boxing career.

His coach described witnessing a number of symptoms related to. concussions. Eagland was never knocked out. However, he was a brawler and took an abnormal number of punches to the head, the guy said, compared to other boxers even. He's just more. Eaglin also had a practice during training of removing his head gear while sparring because he didn't like it. It fucked up his vision and shit. He didn't like it. Slowed him down. Plus, it's easier to get hit that way. His headgear's thicker, so there is an extra amount of space you can get hit. A lot of guys don't like that because they think it's an unrealistic. They want people to miss by an inch.

And this isn't allowing people to miss by an inch. So he said his style was extremely detrimental to his neurological well-being. Quote, chronic punches to the head, taking those punches to the head repeatedly lead to brain damage in vulnerable individuals. In post-concussive syndrome, there are physical changes to the brain. However, an autopsy of the brain is the only way to uncover. whether you have CT or not for sure. So you have to be dead first. Yeah, unless you can take it out and put it back in there.

The physical changes cannot be seen on an MRI, CT, pet, or spec scan. As a boxer, he experienced many symptoms associated with post-concussion, concussive syndrome, nausea, headaches, vomiting, memory problems, fogginess, you know, hitting the head a whole shit level. All the stuff. Yeah. Even more troubling, Eagland developed stuttering during. adulthood, which is very unusual.

Incredibly, yeah. Yeah, that's usually a childhood thing that you, you know. I mean, once in a while, maybe if you had two hours of sleep or something, your brain might not work right or whatever, but in general, you know, you shouldn't constantly stutter, develop that as an adult. Probably for the best, yeah. Stuttering in adulthood is most commonly seen in Parkinson's disease, but has also been reported in individuals who have experienced closed head trauma.

Oh. So if it starts later, that's a problem. And this is, again, coming from a doctor. So please don't actually me. I don't. This is just from him. Argue with this neuropsychologist or whatever the fuck he is. It's not me.

Dr. Hyde recommended detailed neuropsychological testing by a neuropsychologist. After reviewing the data from the neuropsychologist testing, it was significant to him that Eagland's IQ score dropped from a 1989 childhood score of 126. to a current score of 118. Oh, my. He opined the significant decreement of the IQ score was related to brain damage from chronic trauma from brain to the brain from boxing and or related to bipolar. Okay. Now, his other things, 2013, he's doing this appeal, including all this shit. and part of it is basically ineffective assistance of counsel.

Failure to advise the court of Tommy's major mental illness and lack of medication before all this happened. They didn't make a big deal of the fact that he had stopped taking his medication and wasn't taking it for the three months before this murder, these two murders, and then these murders happen. His lawyers probably should have made a bigger fucking deal out of that, I would imagine. That would help. They just said, yeah. They just said, well, he was trying. Maybe they saw it a different way, huh? I don't know how.

I mean, that's a huge mitigator there. Seems like it, yeah. You know? I mean, he's not going to get him off completely, but it might get him out of the electric chair. It might help. He was not competent. They said that Tommy Eagland was not competent

to waive the presentation of penalty phase mitigation because he waived presenting any mitigation. But they said the trial counsel, was ineffective for failing to advise the court of his condition prior to the murders at the penalty phase. So basically, he wasn't competent to say he doesn't want that and the lawyer should have went to the judge and said, listen, he's fucked up in the head. We need to present mitigating evidence.

Period. At the time of all this, trial counsel was aware Eagland suffers from bipolar disorder since he had not been medicated on. on October 20th, 2005, Dr. Kropp advised one of the lawyers of Eagland's condition after conducting a full evaluation of Eagland and reviewing his childhood records and prison records. A mitigation specialist, Cheryl Petrie, also informed the lawyer that Eagland suffers from bipolar, providing him with a summary of Eagland's mental illnesses, diagnosed by various physicians, state agencies, as well as a lengthy history of medication. for his disorder. In addition, Petri notified the attorney that there were various issues around his medication prior to trial. The lawyers were told about all this shit. Despite the advice of both experts regarding England's serious psychiatric disorder, quote, unquote, the lawyer dismissed them

claiming, quote, this is amazing. Everyone's bipolar. We all got problems. No. That's not how you do it. That's funny. That fuck that. Everyone's bipolar. Anyway, what's next? Okay. Who's got issues? I got issues.

I got issues. You got issues. I got hit in the head once. You know, it's fine. In unreasonably dismissing Eagland's condition, the lawyer failed to consider and failed to advise the court of how Eagland's unmedicated condition impacted his client's present ability to conduct or consult with his lawyer with a reasonable degree of rational understanding. and rational as well as factual understanding of the proceedings against him. As demonstrated at the evidentiary hearing, he suffers from bipolar, histories of impulsivity, highs, manic, hypomanic periods of depression.

And so, yeah, they go over some shit there. They said that mixed states result in grandiose, not well-organized thought processes that do not correspond with Tommy's level of intelligence. So they were saying that proves that his brain was fucked up then because that That was a terrible plan. Oh. He's smarter than that. And if his brain wasn't playing tricks on and making him think he could do anything because he's in a big manic phase, he wouldn't have done this because he would have realized it was a terrible idea because he's smarter than that.

Fair enough. That's a decent argument. It's clear from the trial record and penalty phase proceedings that Eagland did not have a reasonable degree of rational understanding and that he did not have rational understanding of the proceedings against him and was not competent to. the wave mitigation. He acted like an asshole. We talked about the whole trial, made faces, was doing crazy shit. During both the penalty phase and the Spencer hearing, Eagland was paranoid and suicidal. During the, during the penalty phase testimony, he was informed, he informed the court and the jury that, quote, no matter whether it's the truth or not, I'm wrong. And quote, why is everyone mad at me when I try to fight my own battles?

Okay. His Spencer hearing testimony was even more nonsensical and irrational. Trial counsel unreasonably discounted his mental illness and failed to investigate and consider its implications. As a result, counsel failed to advise the court of his client's incompetence. Had the attorney properly investigated, he would have learned that his client did not have the ability to rationally understand the proceedings as well as the impact of his irrational decision on the outcome of the trial.

Yeah. If there's a mitigating life that would have saved someone from the death penalty, this might be it. Maybe. It's possible because he's already in prison for murder and it's Florida or whatever, so maybe not. But I can't help but think, basically, if this doesn't get you off,

there's no reason to ever present mitigating testimony because nothing will. If this, the worst childhood that's ever existed in the history of anybody ever doesn't get you at least life without parole instead of the death penalty, then there's no reason we should ever present mitigating evidence. bullshit. I lean real

hard on the mental health side that if you are mentally fucked up, it's your responsibility to fix that. The second that there are victims, I don't want to hear shit about your mental health because if you're saying it now, you fucking knew it then. The problem is the CTE part of it

makes it so he doesn't understand it half the time. That's the problem. He might not think, and the other thing, too, when people are in a bad mental illness, too, they don't realize that they're in the mental illness. They think they feel good sometimes. So who the fuck knows?

But it is your responsibility to take care of it. That's the problem. It can't be mine or yours or... No. We don't have people just knocking on doors doing mental health checks just to make sure you're all right. It doesn't... We don't want to live in that society, so you have to take care yourself.

Yeah. Also, the trial counsel failed to adequately advise Tommy regarding his purported waiver of mitigation. He said, they say the trial court erred in denying relief as to Eagland's claim that the trial counsel was ineffective for failing to adequately advise him regarding his waiver of mitigation. So, yeah, they didn't give him the full spectrum of the possible consequences for that, essentially. They said the reason lawyers may not blindly follow such commands is that although the decision whether to use such evidence in court is for the client, the lawyer must first evaluate

potential avenues and advise the client of those offering possible merit. So he's got to be able to say to him, hey, I just talked to 14 psychiatrists that all say you're whacked out of your gourd. We're going to use that. You got to come back to Earth. Yeah, we're going to use that and hopefully get you off the death penalty. In other words, counsel has a duty to investigate possible mitigation prior to advising the client regarding any waiver. And counsel must advise the client of evidence with potential merit so that the client can make an informed decision. Yeah.

So that makes a lot of sense. They said in one other case, the court made a similar finding regarding a trial counsel's obligations in the event of a client's waiver of mitigation. The court recognized the defendant's waiver of his right to present mitigation does not relieve trial counsel of the duty to investigate and ensure that the defendant's decision is fully informed. That's grim versus state, Florida, 2007. That's good. the court also relied on the precedent set forth in Grimm versus State, or this is Ferrell v. 2010 and Grimm. In Ferrell, as in Eagland's case, the trial court did not conduct an inquiry of the defendant regarding the waiver. Counsel for Ferrell advised the court that he conferred with his client and advised him of his right to present evidence.

Ferrell then advised the court that it was his decision to waive the evidence. However, in determining that Farrell's waiver of mitigation was not knowing and voluntary, the court looked beyond the trial to the performance of the trial attorney in investigating and preparing for the penalty phase and in preparation for the client's waiver. The court found that there is simply no indication in record that trial counsel performed any investigation into the penalty phase so that a knowing and voluntary waiver could take place, which is kind of different from this because this guy did look into it. He just dismissed it as everybody's bipolar rather than not looking into it at all. This is more dumb than lazy. Everybody's bipolar, man. This is more asshole than lazy, whereas not doing any investigations lazy. It determined here this court looked at the post-conviction record as far as what was available to counsel if counsel had investigated.

It determined in this case there was no indication that Farrell Orr's family was uncooperative or refused to participate in an investigation. into mitigation. In fact, the opposite is established, nor is this a case where there's any indication that Farrell refused to participate in mental health examinations. In Ferrell, as in Eagland's case, that's why I was describing that because it describes this, as law shit does, there were numerous witnesses who were able to testify regarding Eagland's childhood who were simply not contacted. Those witnesses who did attempt to contact counsel, such as Eagland's brother and Jill Hussung, his father, his father. foster mother were never responded to. Really? They called the fucking lawyer and the lawyer just never called them back. They reached out to her. She called back and they said, ah, we got it. We got it.

So this lawyer may be, and this is only in my opinion, obviously, both lazy and stupid. We might have dumb and lazy here, possibly. And like I said, only in my completely uneducated, non-suable opinion is that. It's very possible that he's an absolute fucking moron. It's absolutely possible. and possible. Yes. Family members, foster parents, social workers with compelling mitigation were available to testify at the penalty phase.

However, in pursuit of his, quote, monster mitigation, quote unquote, I guess that's what the lawyer called it. Trial counsel failed to speak with any of them and chose to exclude their testimony before initiating any investigation into what they might say, which would be, holy fuck he had the worst childhood that's ever existed ever. This poor son of a bitch, I regret being able to say that. No shit. Therefore, Eagland was never apprised by counsel of all that was available for his mitigation. His trial counsel failed to conduct any mitigation investigation prior to his decision to waive. Hence, Eagland was never informed of what may have been presented in his defense for penalty considerations. In denying relief, the trial court also held Eagland failed to present evidence at the evidentiary hearing,

regarding counsel's alleged failure to advise defendant regarding his waiver of penalty phase mitigation, quote unquote. As a result, the court determined that this portion of the claim was waived by Eagland. Competent substantial evidence does not support the trial court's conclusions. Evidence was presented in post-conviction regarding his lawyer's failure to adequately counsel Eagland regarding his waiver. His waiver. The state's question, it's a waver. The state's questioning of their witness on direct brought out the following. Question.

Did the defendant want you to present any information about his background and childhood? Answer. We didn't discuss that specifically. That wasn't our... Did you talk about? I didn't talk about it. What the fuck did you discuss then, moron? That wasn't my interest at the time.

Wow. Okay. Did he ever ask you not to present or not to present anything about his up? bringing? Answer, well, we didn't discuss, or we didn't discuss that. That wasn't my area. Nope. I, I, I, someone should tell him stuttering, it might mean cognitive decline. We did, I, I, I, we didn't discuss that as in any kind of detail.

And for the reason I didn't bring it up, it is that there were too many things in there, and that could become a double-edged sword and hurt him rather than help him. How the fuck? If his father beat him a little, it would have been. good for him, but the father, you know, really pummeled him real good. I mean, speedbag held him up by the fuck. That means that, yeah, that'll hurt him, obviously, in court. Wow.

They say that his attorney's testimony indicates that it was his decision not to discuss with Eagle in the presentation of family and personal background as part of a penalty phase. And that's your lawyer's job. This guy's not a lawyer. He's a fucking boxer. He doesn't know this shit off the back of, you know, he's not a comedian with 14 podcasts. He doesn't know this shit.

So it was his decision. The lawyer also testified he and Tommy never discussed calling any of Tommy's friends as witnesses in the penalty phase. Really? Nothing. What is also clear from the record is that Eagland was not opposed to the presentation of mitigation. During his lawyer's testimony, the state asked him about Eagland's decision to not involve family members. In response, his lawyer corrected the state and clarified that Eagland specifically told him, don't bring my mother into this.

Don't let my mother, yeah. Well, yeah, because his mother wasn't around since he was born. So what the fuck would she have to say? And, quote, he did not encompass all of the family members. Okay. He testified the lawyer did that he couldn't answer the question as to whether we discussed the brother as a potential witness. He did testify that, quote, as far as talking it over with Dwight, we limited it to the, we limited it to the statement he didn't want his mother involved and perhaps his brother. Then this document goes on to say, had counsel done the job he was constitutionally required to do, a wealth of mitigation was available that Eagland would not have opposed.

Post-conviction testimony by both trial counsel and their investigator established that even before meeting with Eagland on July 23, 2003, his lawyer had already decided not to present traditional mitigation at penalty phase. They both testified that this lawyer had formulated his mitigation theory very early on in the case. Okay. The investigator, Weibel, stated that as early as June 16, 2003, a month after the crime, when he was formally asked to assist on the case, he was aware that this lawyer's theory of the case would be blaming the Department of Corrections for the murders. Oh, really? Yeah, because that'd be best for him, because that'll get a lot of headlines. Not for his client, but for him.

obviously. July 2003, July 23rd, Weibel and Withy is the lawyer, by the way, Withy, which is a W-I-T-H-E-E. It's a terrible name. With-E-E-E-E, which is just a bad name. And you know what? That I don't even have to say is my opinion. You can't sue me for that. It's a bad one. My last name is Petro Gallo. It's worse. So, eat shit. Had their first meeting with Eaglan. The meeting lasted about an hour and a half, and the meeting was spent. quote, letting him know who we were and what we were about. Let them know. Let him know what we're about, God damn it.

During that interview, Eagland provided them with some preliminary information about his family, that he hadn't seen his mother since he was very young. His father was abusive, that he was placed into foster care as a child, that during the meeting, Eagland expressed concern that he did not want his mother involved in the case because, quote, all that she had been through with him. Right. His lawyer explained that Eagland's request only pertained to his mother and did not encompass other family members. The first meeting was the only time the defense team discussed Eagland's waiver with him.

The lawyer did not discuss the matter further with Eagland because he believed, quote, there was no sense in belaboring it. No sense in talking to my client about his legal options. No sense. Don't belabor his ability to defend himself. That's crazy. Wow. I'm trying to figure out if I believe this man is more lazier and incompetent, and it's really sweet, it keeps going back and forth. Withy never discussed with Eagland the possibility of his friends or family members testifying at his penalty phase, and he never discussed with Eagland whether or not he wanted his childhood presented at trial.

Okay. Now also, this is what they're claiming in the court documents. We don't know, you know, what's true or not. Right. In contrast, that's what the court is there to decide. In contrast, the efforts by mitigation specialist, sheriff's, what they're going to be. Cheryl Petrie in Eagland's first trial underscore the deficiencies in Witty's performance. Quote, it had been my experience from my mitigation work, this is the Cheryl Petri, on more than 160 death penalty cases. Jesus, that's a lot. 160 death penalties? 160 she's worked on mitigation-wise.

Four, I'll kill you for anything. Fuck. The most capital defendants initially do not want their family involved in the penalty phase proceedings. In 2000, the first time I met with Tommy Eagle. and he informed me that he did not want to involve his family in the trial proceedings. However, after my initial conversation with Tommy, I spoke to him on numerous other occasions at the request of his attorneys. During these visits, I was able to explain to Tommy the purpose of presenting mitigation at a penalty phase, as well as the purpose of his family's involvement

during the penalty phase proceedings. As a result of our conversations, Tommy eventually agreed to our mitigation investigation and to the presentation of his family as witnesses. says it the first trial. But the lawyer just never called them. Oh. He never just brought them in at all. He just said, yeah, he doesn't want mitigation. That was that.

Wow. Counsel's failure to properly advise Eagland concerning the waiver is evident in the fact that on July 23, 2003, neither withy, Norm McLaughlin, were aware of the details of Eagland's background. His lawyer had already started allegedly coming up with mitigation based on the DOC is wrong, rather than just looking into his background. Right. Which is terrible. You know, wow, okay.

They said the little effort they did make to obtain information on his background was done too late and insufficiently. Weibel and Withee testified that they made an initial attempt to meet with Eagland's mother, Anita Luckett, in March 2004, almost a year after the discussion with Eagland regarding his waiver. While Weibel wrote to Luckett and asked her to contact other family members for them, no additional contact was made with Luckett or other family members after this meeting. In fact, a preliminary investigation into the case or a call to Petri would have discovered that Luckett was estranged from the Eagland family and would not have been able to help in the investigation. Her answer would have been, don't know.

I'm useless. He was in diapers or the last time I saw him. Not sure what happened to him as a kid. Maybe me leaving. That's a big part of it. Yeah, that's the one. It's possible. But with the dad, I don't blame her.

She had to run far and fast, save her own life. But don't leave your kids there, Christ. Please don't. Furthermore, counsel's decision to interview Luckett regarding Eagland's childhood is again indicative of how uninformed he was regarding his childhood. A review of Petrie's records or a call to Petri would have informed him that Luckett was absent since he was an infant. The trial court misrepresented the record in determining that the record reflects the defense team

visited defense's mother, grandfather, and other family members, while Weibel planned on meeting with Eagland's father, Kenneth Lee, Eagland, there's no evidence that the meeting actually occurred. Oh. Similarly, although Weibel contacted Eagland's brother, Dinal, Danyl, Donnell, Donald, Donald, around the same time to arrange a telephonic meeting between Withie and Donald. Withie never spoke to Donald, despite Donald's repeated attempts to contact the attorney. Wow. Wow. These abortive attempts to contact Eaglin's parents, brother constitute the extent of the defense team's investigation into their client's history. Jesus Christ.

So, yep, he said that his, basically, according to Withie, as a child, Eagland, this is what he put together. Yeah. Okay. Eaglin was given, quote, a lot of opportunities. To what? To what? Fuck up worse?

Bleed on the floor. What opportunities was he given? Yeah. His grandparents cared for him and took care of him, quote, rather, well, then, quote, so his home situation, although not super-duper, not-all-American boy, he had help. Not ideal. Super-duper? Not super-duper, all-Americans.

An abuse, a childhood so abusive, the Iceman would have said, dude, poof, you got it hard. Not super-duper. You know, all, not all American boy. He had help. and at times he did a pretty good job of, quote, toughing it out. Oh, my. This is horrific.

Evidence presented in post-conviction demonstrates the fact that Mr. Eagland's childhood was in stark contrast to this description. Indeed, even in denying post-conviction relief, the trial court acknowledged Mr. Eagland's admittedly horrific childhood. Trial counsel's attempts to obtain Eagland's record were similarly sporadic and incomplete, despite the plethora of records that were actually available.

to them. The records were retained by various members of the team were not distributed to and reviewed by other team members. Jesus, this is fucking disturbing. Sad. Very sad. Yeah, apparently. Completely failed. But I mean, yeah. He didn't have a good start anyway. It was going to be very bad. But he was failed either way. Yeah. They didn't ask Petri to revisit her work. And as early as March 22nd, 2005, Petri was instructed to cease all work on the case, and yet the lawyer still didn't review Petri's materials

and certainly did not provide the information to his investigator either. Petri did not have any contact with Weibel, the investigator, and was not even aware there was an investigator assigned to the case. At the time Petri was retained to work on the case, Weibel was attempting to locate Eagleon's foster parents, Department of Children and Families' employees. Weibel did not get very far in locating individuals and recalled he had very limited information. Although Weibel obtained school records, the lawyer did not review them. Nor did the lawyer review records Weibel obtained from the Pinellas County Public Defender's Office regarding

Eagland's first trial, which included information regarding Eagland's friends, foster homes, mental history, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. Also, the failure to investigate the mental illness, same thing. This guy just did not. Didn't do shit. Yeah. They said, competent and substantial evidence demonstrates that with the lawyer never seriously considered Eagland's diagnosis. According to Withy, quote, both diagnoses were too broadly used and that bipolar disorder was, quote,

grossly oversold as causation, if not justification, more likely justification for bad behavior. Wow. Wow, you should get a job as a prosecutor, bro. That's what they say. Yeah, that's too bad, too. That's like, yeah. And he admits with the exception,

explain that he did not pursue Eagland's diagnosis of bipolar at the penalty phase because of a phase of his trial because he falsely believed, quote, everybody's bipolar. Right. And the diagnosis would not fly before this jury, therefore I didn't use it, quote unquote. My God. Wow. That is wild. An experience mitigation specialist here. Yeah.

So, yeah, she, Petri also, Petri talks about working on the second trial, had serious concerns about Withy's ability to properly communicate with Tommy regarding the very important decisions that were being made about his case. Wow. I discussed Tommy's diagnosis of bipolar disorder. Withy said that bipolar disease is, quote, the diagnosis of the day. And quote, he didn't, I quote, do not believe in it. I don't believe in it. which is my favorite thing in the world when people say I don't believe in something that clearly exists. It makes me crazy.

I don't believe in it. This guy's an idiot. And that's, you can take that however you fucking want. I don't care. He's an idiot. It's not fibromyalgia for Christ's sake. Yeah, which is also vaguely real as well. This is, that has some things, nerve endings and all that.

Yeah, there's some things there. A lot of doctors think it's like a sleep disorder, though. that causes it because you're not sleeping. That's what I've heard from some doctors. This is an absolute brain issue. This is bipolar disorder. This is a problem. Yeah, this is an absolute issue.

That's a real thing. And this is 2005. This isn't 1974. Doesn't believe in it in 2005? This isn't the 50s where they're like all this psycho psychiatrist garbage. This is 2005, for Christ's sake. Dr. Kropp also disagreed with Withy's decision. to exclude Eagland's well-documented history of bipolar in favor of his DOC negligence strategy.

Even co-counsel McLaughlin agreed that the diagnosis was important, and he didn't know why Eagland's suspended treatment for bipolar was not offered, and the penalty phase, if nothing else, to support the DOC is negligent thing. Say that's part of it. They didn't give him his medication, which caused this. It all ties in, but either way. He explained Eagland's mental health mitigation in lieu of his unsupported theory of, quote, monster mitigation, withy. He explained that I did not want to fall into the situation where he should be reduced.

His sentence should be reduced by life instead of death because he's bipolar. Why? You're his lawyer. Because he's got a mole on his cheek, if that gets him off out of the death penalty. That's your fucking job. What's wrong with you? Lean into it. Yeah, you fucking dummy. It's literally your job to fucking do everything you can to advocate for your client, right, wrong, legal, whatever, whatever it is.

Hoof. In addition to the two diagnoses, Dr. Kropp outlined in his letter that he also had concerns about damaged Eagland's brain. They even brought that up, fucking CTE, which back then nobody knew what the fuck it was. That didn't really come out until the 2010s, until the what's his name guy, Novitsky guy, really made it a public thing. Well, most people didn't really have any idea about that. or no wiki, whatever his name is. Yeah. And it wasn't being used as like a reason to do anything.

No, they didn't know what it was. Right. You know, they didn't realize that's a real thing. Jesus Christ, they said that he, his long-term drug use and the fact that he may have suffered head injuries. So they said he probably should have checked on with that first as well. Instead, they just did that and then used his own, quote, risky DOC negligence. mitigation strategy.

As what the court said. So in addition to the volume of lay testimony that was never presented, at the evidentiary hearing, Eagland presented several lay witnesses and experts to establish that such mitigating information was available, had the counsel, you know, just tried, basically. He endured him. When he entered residential care at 13, he was diagnosed with cyclophamic disorder, a childhood a diagnosis with later adult diagnosis of bipolar. Okay.

Interesting. They talk about the boys' school that he was placed in. The Prozac, his condition worse, and his foster mother died. They go over his whole life that we went over before. And they talk about how well, this isn't just he did something bad, went into jail, and now he's got one shrink that his defense attorney hired saying he's bipolar. Yeah. This is everybody that's ever looked at him since he's.

was 10, said this dude's fucked up in the brain. You got to use that. You got to use that as mitigation. You just have to. So, here's the conclusion. Eagland's jury knew nothing about the man. They sentenced to death. They did not know Eagland suffered.

This is his lawyer's conclusion. Suffered a childhood of severe abuse and neglect, and that by the time he left his father's care at the age of 11, he was a severely damaged child. They were not aware that as a damaged child, Eaglan was moved. to all the foster homes, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here. So they say that they believe he is entitled to a new sentencing hearing, at least here.

Okay. Just the penalty phase. So June 26, 2015, justices turned down appeal denied. We've rather not. Yeah. They said that, wow, not even ineffective assistance of counsel. The justice is unanimously ruled against him. Wow.

I can't believe there's not one person in Florida's Supreme Court that doesn't have their head firmly up their asshole. That's amazing. They want nothing to do with it. Well, I mean, their Supreme Court is an alligator, a guy that plays goofy at Disneyland, and, you know, three hillbillies that all chew tobacco and spit in one spatoon.

There's a rooster in there, too. There's a rooster there also for sure. Yeah, we know that. At least in Pinellas County, we know there's a rooster. They throw some chicken feed in two circles, and whichever one he eats from is the verdict. That's it. So, let's see. 2016, though, the Florida law changes.

Oh. The state of Florida changed its law, just to line up with the Constitution and Supreme Court things, that allow the imposition of the death penalty sentence only through, unanimous jury decisions, which is totally fair. If you can't convict someone if it's not unanimous, how can you then send them to death if it's seven, five? That's insane. That almost guarantees that they will never get death, right?

If it's not unanimous. Kind of what they're going for down there. Yeah. It's what they're going for. So, yeah, that's what they were. The reform paved the way for resentencing of death row inmates whose death sentences were imposed by non-unanimous juries. since Eagland's death sentence was six,

was it seven six or some shit, was not unanimously decided seven five by the jury back then in his original trial. He's eligible for resentencing and a motion hearing was scheduled for some time. This was in 2016. Sometime between 2024 and 2025. We'll get around to it.

Someday. Don't worry about it. So I mean, they wonder why it takes a long time to execute people because this. They're fucking around. Let's schedule it for eight years from now. Then in 2017, August 26th, new sentencing proceedings ordered in death penalty cases. They say the man sentenced to death for this.

This is both him and Smith have new sentencing proceedings that will take place before a 12-person jury like their original trials, though the guilt's not in question. It's just to give aggravators and mitigators and, you know, mitigators and let them just a side penalty. Fair enough. That's fair. So I think that's fine. Now, 2003, Florida changes the law again. Oh. Fucking amazing.

Florida OK's easier path for death penalty. Jesus Christ. We're in and I swear it. No, you're not. something smart. No, watch this. We'll fix that. See how dumb we are. God damn it. I told you we stupid. Put it past us. We'll fuck it up. Yeah. Told you we have no frontal lobe control of anything. It's like eight-year-olds run that fucking state. Like, they're nuts. Florida will soon no longer require unanimous jury recommendations for judges to impose the death penalty sentences.

All our drugs are expiring. We don't. Idiots. We got to use this. Before it goes bad. God damn it. Under a bill that legislature approved, a reaction to the life sentence handed to the man who massacred 17 people at Parkland High School.

Wow. It's reactionary to one thing. You know who does major things in reaction to one thing? Morons. That's who does that. Morons. You know, morons.

Morons. I'm sorry. It's a blazing saddles line that we just love and say all the time. The salt of the earth. I miss. You know. morons.

Greatest lie. Clevon laughing at that is so fucking funny, too, because you could tell it's a real laugh. This is crazy. The House passed the bill on an 80 to 30 vote. I wonder what that was on, what lines that was on. It now goes to Ron DeSantis for final approval,

which I mean, he's a gaping asshole with teeth, so clearly he's going to do it. We are a human being. Yep. It will allow the death penalty with a jury recommendation of at least eight to four in favor of execution. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Seven to five. Now, that's too low, but eight to four, that'll work. Eight to four is pretty good. Wow. That's almost 300%. Jesus Christ, Republicans and Democrats agreed that the reason they were considering the bill was because of a divided nine to three jury spared Douglas High School shooter

Nicholas Cruz from capital punishment. Because maybe there was mitigating. factors. Maybe that's why. They don't want anyone to not get the death penalty. That's what this is. This is just how do we make it so everyone that gets killed gets a death penalty? That way we can open even more prisons and have all this shit and hire more

fucking people that these fucking goddamn fucking lobbyists for fucking prison reform at... fucking prison lobbyists want more. They're giving it to them. Here. Now we'll make it clog everything up worse. You can't have a national event that shocks a

nation and then not be able to kill that guy. That's not fair. It's fucking insane. I'm not that I'm sorry. I'll run the guy over with my car right now. I'm not saying that I want this guy to live, but I'm saying I want fairness. And this is crazy. Stop rigging shit against people who are very, if you are a person up for the death penalty,

you are this big of a tiny person against the state, which has all the resources and everything against you. At least give them something. Another argument would be if you want to, you know, that person to die, maybe send your, maybe get you get you some cops that'll run up in there and get him and not catch him at a

fucking fast food joint down the road. Yeah, but then I want those cops put in jail too because fuck them. Your badge doesn't give you license to kill us. Fuck you. No, but I mean like the... I don't want you using your weapons. I want you to use your fat feet and chase me. When a kid's got

an AR in a school. Yeah. Yeah. How about we don't just sit on the grass and make a plan drawing in the dirt? Thank you. Yes. No shit. Those cops. If you, if you, if you guys in Texas. The guy.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. And this kid too, this Nicholas Cruz kid got out of the school and down the street and was ordering a frosty or some shit. Why don't you get him all these other fucking school killing 30 kids? If you're not willing to run in there during that, you don't get to be a cop. Hang it up.

That's part of the fucking job. And then at that point that when people kiss your dicks all the time about how wonderful you are, it can be true. Because you'll run in and. save children. Possibly at the risk of your own life. When you're like, well, I ain't getting shot over this. Well, then fuck off. Go find somebody else that will.

Also, if he kills you and then they arrest him, he's going to go to jail longer because you said some words with your hand on the Bible. There you go. That's it. Not that little girl that we had to identify her by your fucking shoes. That is disgusting. It's disgusting. Yeah.

You're so much more important to us. But he also, this Nicholas Cruz, how old was he? 16, 17. He got life without parole. I think that's a pretty, that's a bad life he's going to have. He's going to have a bad life. He's going to get fucked with his entire life in there. Everyone's going to fuck with him.

Yeah. Who cares? Okay. April 2nd, 2025. Finally, a death row inmate convicted of the killings has been given a new resentencing, a new sentencing trial. So Dwight gets a new sentencing trial. January 5th, 2026, new sentencing trial underway.

He's 50 at this point. Oh, Jesus Christ. So the legislation was subsequently repealed, and now allowing non-unanimous, of course, it passed and went through everything, the death penalty verdicts. But changes have prompted the new sentencing hearing. So he's lucky he got sentenced at the exact time he did there. So it was eight to four, by the way, which under the new sentence. law would mean he still gets the death penalty. Yeah, Eagland's legal team plans to present mitigation evidence fucking finally.

Then they delayed it till next week, of course. The prosecution is going to put on how horrible the crimes are. Then the defense is going to ask for leniency based most likely on his mental state, his mental health and his childhood an attorney said. January 22nd, 2026 here, it's all presented. The jury comes back and gets his recommendation. here. They have a few hours of deliberation. You, sir, may fuck off again, death penalty again. Got him. Got him again. So literally, it doesn't matter what has happened to you. There is no, that just means in Florida, mitigation does not exist. Period. It does not exist. It doesn't. Period.

So the jury, and these fucking people, too, the jury vote on the Darla Latham jury, recommend. of death 11 to 1. Oh. So unanimous wouldn't have worked there. But Charlie Fust and they recommended a death of 12-0. The prisoner. Okay. So he is resentenced to death again.

And that's that. Wow. So he's back in there. That's it. The state's attorney said we will never let up when it comes to seeking justice, not after a day, a year or decades. He's incarcerated at the union correctional institution. And here is a quote from him, by the way, that will give you to end off and this thing here.

I don't want to be 35 years old talking to my kids and telling them, quote, I could have done this or that. I want to know I gave it my best shot. He did it. He did it. It was best shot there. So we will definitely, we'll get into the updates. We don't have time for the updates now because we have Lenny Dykes, and we have Delante West and we have Isaiah Ryder.

We have three updates. So no room for those right now, but we'll get into those on another time for sure. There you go. That's Tommy Eaglin. What the fuck? He's never getting out. Yeah. Sorry we got off on the things.

We get annoyed with unfairness. We both have a weird, like, fairness thing that even if I hate someone, I want fairness for some reason. I don't know what it is. But there are some people that I still want to have nothing and I have hair and everything. Yeah, I want hair and money and he have nothing. Yeah. Yeah, no, there is. There is. But I don't know what it is when I hear something like this. I put myself in Tommy's position and I don't want to kill anybody. But I didn't have that. I wasn't raised like that. Imagine being fucking raised like that. I don't know what that would bring out in you. Well, he didn't have a chance in the first place, but he also made decisions that made that not having a chance.

much worse. Much worse. Then made some real bad decisions in a real bad state. But like, as a child, he made tons of decisions as a child, which you don't really, that made it worse.

Football, boxing, all this type of shit, CTE, you know, it's crazy. So anyway, fuck Florida. That's what my basic end of the, is what I have to say here about that. And that, I don't care. You can actually all you want.

You're wrong, period. That's it. We're right. You're on. No, we're right. You're on. We've been there. It sucks. Enjoy. Okay. Except that police chief in the Atlantic, he seems fucking great. We do love him. We do love the Indian Atlantic Florida Police Chief. That guy rules he has come to our shows in Orlando and he's a very fucking cool guy. And he sure he wants to come to. He's welcome. Just show you that. He has fucking tickets on the table for you, my man. He leaves us cool stuff. So we like that guy.

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