Crime in Sports - Growth Is The Enemy - Clifford "Psycho" Rozier - Part 1

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

This week, we talk about a basketball player, who seemed to have it all, with his future as bright as one could be. Problem was, laziness, a very entitled attitude, and a lack of scoring actual points led to him being in every coach's dog house. On top of that, he seems to have a police magnet in his body, and he will not stop saying stupid, and arrogant. things. He may be the perfect CIS subject!!   Grow almost a foot during high school, transfer out of Dean Smith's storied UNC program, because you didn't think you got enough playing time, and never take responsibilty for your words, or actions with Clifford "Psycho" Rozier - Part 1!!   Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!   Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman   Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com   Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!!   Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports [e-mail]

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Must be, is a basketball player, so totally different sport and everything. It's Clifford Glenn Roseer Jr. Surprise, everybody. The juniors are back. Here we go. His nickname really says most of what needs to be said here. His nickname is Psycho. Is that right?

That works, I would say, which is funny because we had another Rozier who killed multiple people and his nickname wasn't even psycho. He was pretty psychotic. He was pretty fucking psychotic. So this Clifford Rozier is born on October 31, 1972, Halloween.

And he's born in Bradenton, Florida, as we'll talk about here. He's a big guy. He's a big man, 6-11. So big dude. His dad's obviously Clifford Rozier, senior. His mother is Diane Rosier. He's, he,

He has one of the best, like, high school basketball careers you could possibly have. He's the shit in high school basketball. He's Mr. Basketball of Florida. First team parade all American, McDonald's All-American, all this crazy shit. Oh, yeah. He's got one brother and three half-sisters. There's five kids all together in this family. A little bit about his early life here.

He lived in Palmetto for 10 years, first 10 years of his life. and liked basketball right away. They said he would spend hours working on a bank shot from 10 feet away. So a 10 foot, a little mid-range bank shot because that's what Julius Irving was doing all the time. And that was his favorite player. So he dug that. The family eventually moved to Bradent him. And he said, quote, this is Rosier, quote,

The light stayed off. We didn't have any food. The water was always messed up. messed up. Messed up or not coming out of the faucet, which one? Both are, I mean, if it's colored or sputtery or doesn't come out at all, those are the three things, right? Is it a municipal problem or have you not paid the water bill? That's my point here.

Is it like... The pocket problem or the pipes? Yeah. This area has bad pipes or what are we doing? This area has no money. No money to buy better pipes. In eighth grade, he was five foot 10, but there was no organized team to play on. So they had a game apparently at his junior high that was students against teachers every year. Oh.

So he couldn't wait to do that. He wanted to do that because they didn't have a team at the junior high. He said, I got a reprimand and I couldn't play against the teachers, and it snatched my heart out. The whole school was watching. Yeah. And he said, I said, you know what? They're going to pay for this in high school. You know what?

They're going to pay for this. The teachers from junior high are going to pay for this when I go to high school and I never see them again. They're going to get it. He was six feet tall when he played for Southeast High's JV team as a freshman. And then over the summer, he grew six inches. Oh.

Went from six foot tall to six foot six in the summer. They're going to pay then. Well, they're going to pay. That's when he's a sophomore. He comes back at 6'6. In high school, he'd go with his mother at 4 a.m. to clean offices. That's what he would do, and then she'd take him to school.

After school, he had practice for two hours. He said, when I'd get home, I'd play six or seven hours on my goal by myself shooting with my music on. They had to call me in from the basketball court at night and tell me to go to bed. I loved the game like that. Wow. He was super into it. A friend of his named Terry Green, who was friends with him forever, remembers an argument

between Rozier and a teammate over a seat on the team bus before an away game. They said Rosier was so mad he didn't talk to anyone for the rest of the night, the whole team. He went out and scored 49 points and didn't talk to a fucking soul. Oh, because somebody sat in his seat? Someone sat in his seat. He's got a real chip on his shoulder. Imagine if someone actually fucks him over. Like, for real, for real.

Like, does something bad to him. That is definitely one way to be sure that you're, You're successful. Yeah. But everybody's going to fuck you over. Totally. But it's sometimes important to even if it's false, to put a face on something that you can rail against, even if it's false. Sometimes it's good just for self-motivation.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I had all sorts of fake boogeymen and comedy that I'd be like, I have to do this to show this person that doesn't even care. You know what I just self-motivation. That's all it was for. I suppose, but we certainly had boogeymen. No, no, real ones. I met these are my own that had nothing to do with comedy or showbiz or anything.

They were personal life ones that were like, oh, I'll show these motherfuckers, even though they don't care. One of mine was U.S. Bank, because I had to pay that mortgage. Yeah, that's that also. That was a real boogeyman. That also. I'm talking about getting into it, though. This was, you weren't thinking, shit, comedy was a fucking drain for what the first. Oh, God.

For the first, like, eight years, that shit's a net loss. You're not making a goddamn dime. That's a net fucking loss. He said, to me, that game let me know that this guy is special, his friend said, that this guy was the best junior in the state of Florida that year. He might have been the best player period. All right. Okay. 1988 eight here.

They're talking about him and how he grew and all this thing. and they said that, you know, the team had six foot three centers for a long time in basketball. And then he comes in six foot six in a sophomore year. And the coach said all of a sudden he became our best big man. He went around people who were starting that year. I don't think there was any doubt he'd be our starting center. So now he's got size 15 shoes entering his junior season. He's six foot eight.

Wow. And the doctor said there's a chance he'll hit 6'10. and he ends up in 6-11. By senior year? God, damn. Ends up 6-11, actually. As a sophomore, the team he played on, the high school team went 22 and 7. He averaged 18.9 points and 10.6 rebounds, and he was deemed one of the top prospects in the area.

Wow. He said, I feel like I want to do some of the same things I did last year, but I want to focus on the team. Whatever it takes to make the team play better, that's what I want to. do. I'm looking for a scholarship. So if I say all this team shit, that looks great to those coaches. They love that shit. Even in the summer he plays. He loves to play. He plays everywhere. He was picked up by the Orlando Greyhounds in route to the junior nationals in Arkansas, where he was chosen as one of the top four 15-year-olds. Wow. He went to camps at the University of North Carolina and the University of South Florida.

They said he would jump rope for an hour a day. He benches 195 pounds, which for a real skinny guy isn't bad. Yeah, the coach said he doesn't want to put too much pressure on him, though. No, don't do that. He said, everybody has to remember he's still a gangly kid, which is not what a 16-year-old wants to be called in the local newspaper, gangly. You're like, oh, come on, the girls aren't going to want to fuck gangly. Help me here. He said he's barely 16 years old.

There were times when the coach said he had to remind Rozier to play within the team because he would try to do too much on his own. He said when Rozier says he's looking out for the team, the coach is convinced that he'll help him do what they need to win. He says, I think it was hard for Clifford to understand when you play on a varsity team in a fast-paced game, you're not going to get the ball every time down the court. He had a good self-confidence and good self-concept about what he could do.

So here's January 31st. 1989, big headline in the Bradenton Herald, sky's the limit for Southeast's Clifford Rozier. Sure. Sky's the limit. They said that Clifford Rozier's driveway at his home

in East Bradenton has been the venue for a lot of father-son basketball games. There was a time when Rozier was lucky to win one game and three against his father, but that was before the lines on his growth chart shot toward the heavens after his freshman season. man Clifford Senior said

Now he can beat me three out of three I can win one if I play hard But I'd be shot I'd have to do way too I got to work in the morning So fuck that

I ain't gonna be sore Over this shit Uh Not doing that shit So he wants to play at North Carolina Is the goal That's what it is

That's all he ever wants He said he's always wanted to play there He wants to go play for Dean Smith It's the only thing he wants to do It's it And this is, you know, 89. This is five years after Jordan was there and worthy and all those guys. So it makes sense.

Was morning at Georgetown? He was, huh? Was morning? Yeah, morning in Matumbo. Same time. Twin Towers at Georgetown. No. What?

They were the Twin Towers at Georgetown. At the same time? I, did I just, now you're making me think I made that up because you seem so talking about it. I don't know where Matumbo was. I think I swore Matumbo just came from whatever fucking village he came from in Africa and just dominated everybody. He just showed up with like a grass fucking clothes made out of the earth and shit. Did you go to Georgetown too?

Absolutely. Yeah. He's part of that. Yeah, he was a beastil. He was there. God damn. Yeah. Tombo or the Twin Towers. Yeah.

I was like, I know that's my childhood. Yeah. Cultivate centers there? That's what. That's what he liked. That's what Thompson liked. He liked big shot blocking centers because Ewing was a shot blocking machine in college. I mean, his whole game was shot blocking.

And then he's got Mourdingham a tumble or two of the most famous shot blockers ever. There was somebody else went to Georgetown too besides those three that was. Iverson. I was in one. I was thinking Larry Johnson. Where did he go to Georgia or something? UNLV. UNLV.

UNLV. Yeah. With fucking McGuire and those guys. Yeah. Nick Van Exil. Nick Van Axel is he UNLV I think so That sounds right

No No no it wasn't No Georgia Tech or something I can think of For some reason Whenever I picture Nick Van Exel I picture Anthony Peeler

Which makes no sense Because Van Exile had a way better career Peeler played for like Southern or some shit I see Van Exel in yellow and blue For some reason Michigan Michigan Georgia Tech Somebody like that

Something like that But where was it God damn it Georgia Tech was Kenny Anderson, right? He went to Georgia Tech, I think. That might be right. Who knows? All right. Let's get back to the first guy.

Cincinnati, Pearcats. There you go. Nick Van Exel, Cincinnati. Absolutely. Christ. Now I can see it clearly on his basketball card. Yep. So that's where he wants to go, though.

He said that that is the promised land of basketball. And he said, there's just a basketball feeling up there. Which is the weird thing is I've been in that area. It's weird, but it is. There is a basketball feeling up there. It's really weird. In Carolina? Yeah, in that area, that triangle area.

Well, that's all they got. Well, now they got more, but that's all they had that. UNC, NC State, Wake Forest, Duke. I mean, they were all right there. Yeah, it's huge shit. Rozier said that he went to Chapel Hill and met Dean Smith during one of the camps. And he said, he told me the things, he told me things like blend in with the team. And he told me I had a good shot.

And he told me to, quote, keep growing. which I've got a choice in that you dick yeah thanks a lot so he said that at this point in his this is his senior year he's averaging 25 points and 13 rebounds a game

so he's killing it now his high school coach said the amazing thing is he's having good numbers and he's having to share it with good ball players on the team right he said the stats are impressive but the glimpses of brilliance are even more so there are times

and Rosia glimpses. Rosier scores strongly in the paint, drifts out, and feathers in a three-pointer and acts like the trailer, acts as the trailer on the Seminels Fast Break. So he does like a minute bull thing there. In their victory against Sarasota last Friday,

he scored 41 and had 20 rebounds and blocked nine shots. Wow. And they said that people have to keep in mind that he's only 16 years old and probably hasn't outgrown his jeans. His father's six, his father's six four, his mother's six foot. He wears a size 15 shoe and has monstrous hands. He's grown half an inch

since November, and we knew about that. Dick Vital here saw Rozier in the championship game of the Bradenton-Herald Holiday Classic, and Vital said he would love the chance to coach guys like him, primetime players like Rozier. He said, this is Dick Vital. Rosier has, should I, should I, should scream this into the microphone. Rosier has great athletic ability. Mr. Po, a world of potential. However, he must work on developing his defensive concepts and understanding the game and take advantage of his quickness and size by becoming a much better, more active interior player. Baby?

Clifford has a tendency to play a little too much on the perimeter. He's multi-talented with another year of high school. He should develop into one of the premier players of the South, baby. I added the baby. I love when he says, baby, it's so funny because it's just a... creepiest old man just saying, Come on, baby.

He's saying it's like a six-foot-seven black guy with gray hair sitting next to him. It's like, why? What are you telling that guy, baby? Why are you calling him baby? All right, Dick, well, back to the thing over here. Wow.

So I'm calling Van Horned Baby. Baby? Look at him, baby. Carol said, this is his coach, Carol, said he employs Roseer's talent at different positions, the high post down low,

on the wing, an answer to defense is geared to stop him. So it's not Rozier's fault he's shooting from out there. That's by design. I'm telling him to do that. When they crowd the paint, I put him outside. So, yeah, he said, Rozier routinely sees collapsing, smothering defenses every night. And he hears opposing coaches yelling at the referees that the big kids getting away with murder inside.

But Rozier said that that just makes him play harder. Chip on his shoulder. He says he no longer feels he has to go out and get 25 points and 12. rebounds every game. He said at the beginning of the season, I felt like that, but now that people see how good our team is, it's not like that. It's not like teams say Clifford is coming to town, but Southeast is coming to town. And they said, Rosier, all the recruiters are drooling over him. The University of Florida sent him a letter when he was only a freshman. He wasn't even tall yet, for Christ's sake. His mail grew to a drawer full last year and is currently increasing geometrically.

And they said the biggies like Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, Florida State. And he said it's a lot. There's all sorts of stuff coming in, which is nice. His parents are limiting coaches telephone call access to Rozier. So they won't put every call through to him. They'll say he's doing shit. Rosier said they don't want my head to get too big, and they want me to keep my mind on my studies. I've got one more year before I decide where I want to go.

And then his coach said, I have feelings. faith in his parents that they will keep him under control. They stay on him pretty tight and won't let his head get blown up too big. I don't know if he realizes it right now, how much attention he's getting, or how much he'll get in the next year. But Rozier said he's talked to the recruiters, and they tell him to keep his grades up, keep up the good work, and he'll be going wherever the fuck he wants to go. So one of these guys, Rosier is, this is the University of South Florida coach.

He said he's definitely a very, very good basketball. player. No doubt about it. Definitely a division one prospect. He's got good height. He's quick. He runs well, and he's got good shooting touch. So another coach said, quote, I think Clifford has a chance to be as good as any player to come out of Manatee County in the 12 years since I've been here. What gives Clifford the ability to be unique is his athletic ability at 6'9. He has a soft touch. He can run and catch and has a lot of agility. He has a lot of physical tools. He said, but he's not a complete player yet. Vital says he needs to establish himself more in the paint, baby.

And he wants more attention to defense and learning not to force the game. Also, he wants, among the other things, Rozier's father said he wants Rozier to take the referee's calls in stride and be more patient. Temper is an issue with him. The kid here, Rozier said, before I get the ball, opponents put two men on me and when I get it they put three men on me it's frustrating and aggravating

I'm not patient I want to score I want to do things now sometimes and kick it to the open man at that point and they stop doing that shit that's how it works so he loves it he plays all year round he's taking the scholastic aptitude test the SAT

and he's trying to get a head start here his grade point average is 2.4 at this point which isn't great That's it. So he, this is his dad, says, I'm getting a little more happy with his game, not necessarily because of the stats,

but because he's getting a more overall game than he used to have. February 15th, 1990, he is an All-American. God damn. He is selected, yep, as a McDonald's All-American High School basketball squad, which is a huge deal, obviously. Fucking A.

Yeah. Monstrous here. Joining Roseira, on the East Squad are Damon Bailey and then Eric Montross. Remember him? Oh yeah. Big giant North Carolina Center.

Yeah, big flat top white guy. That didn't work too well. From Indianapolis. And Bailey will be there too. Okay. As a senior in 1990, he was averaging 35.16 rebounds in five blocks a game. 35 rebounds a game?

35.16 rebounds. How many rebounds? 16. 16. A double, a crazy double double. And five blocks. Which is just.

16 points. 15 rebounds. 16 and five blocks. That's wild. He was named Florida's Mr. Basketball and a McDonald's All-American also. His coach said his senior year of high school, he might have been the best player in the country.

Which it sounds like it. He said, his mind was always working. He's always planning and setting goals. He didn't just talk about it like some kids do. He made himself the basketball player he was in high school. He said, he made my job a lot easier, that's for sure.

Everyone knows how good of a basketball player he was, but he was a good student. Not really. 2.4 isn't like a... It's not good. Smoking he's a mid-C student. That's pretty bad. It's exactly average, is what it is. Very average. He said, he was a good student. I've never

had any trouble with him in school. I don't think he ever got sent to the dean's office. He's a really good kid. And they said, well, yeah, he has to go home and work on his shit all the time. Clifford said, there was no better feeling than showing up in Southeast's gym and everybody jam-packed. And everybody's jam-packed standing around the place, cameras everywhere, screaming and hollering. He says, they said, he went later on, by the way, he'll go to the NCAA final four. and he says high school, the high school championships are better.

I thought that was cool. So in college here, he's being recruited, and Dean Smith is recruiting him. Loves him, yeah. Going to get what he wanted. Now, Dean goes to his house and saw a green Ford LTD parked in the driveway when he went there. So he went in and he said, I know this is my guy, Dean Smith, because he saw the muffler was hanging off of it. This is my guy. He said, I like the told

Rosier, quote, I like the fact that you have this raggedy car. It's going to push you. Yeah. You're going to want to get a whole reason I'm here. Get a better one here. So he decides I'm going to North Carolina. All right.

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or whatever that was, you know. 1990-91 tar heels here, UNC. They're 29 and 6, and they finish fourth here. Rick Fox also on this team. Yeah. Listen, Rick Fox, Hubert Davis, George Lynch, Pete Chilcutt. These are all NBA players, first four. King Rice, I don't know who that is.

Eric Montrose, Clifford, Derek Phelps, Kenny Harris, got you, whatever, but the four NBA players right there. Christmas Eve, 1990 here, Sarasota Herald Tribune newspaper. The headline is, Impatient Roseer, willing to wait for his chance. And so they say that 18-year-old Clifford Rozier, despite lack of sleep, was itching to get out. He wanted to see his buddy, spend the day visiting his old haunts, tell the tales of life in arena of big time college basketball. Youthful enthusiasm would win out over body fatigue. It didn't matter that Clifford had played a basketball game Saturday night in West Lafayette, Indiana,

then spent two hours in a bus on ice-lick roads, getting up at 5 a.m. Sunday morning to begin the airplane trek from Indianapolis to Bradenton via Cincinnati couldn't slow down Roseir. Right. Oh, man. He said that he couldn't wait to get back home. He said, that's all I thought the whole time in North Carolina, coming home. He said, I'm tired of the weather, the cold, the practices, it feels good to be home. We don't like that.

That's usually a bad sign for some reason. He said he could talk to his parents without worrying about big long-distance phone bills. He can see his younger brother, Kobe, how he's progressed there. So, you know, Clifford said he just wants to be home. At the time, the Harheels were eighth in the country, ranked seven and one, or they were seven and one, Hank Dave here. And yeah, he's excited. They were the subject. The North Carolina team was the subject of a big Sports Illustrated article two weeks before this. And they're just doing great. And it's a bunch of young guys. And, you know, North Carolina's got a big thing going on here.

He said it adds a ton of pressure to me. The team is not progressing as fast because of it, talking about where he fits in into the system. He says, when all the talk dies down about us, the team will play better and the freshmen will play better. I think there's too much pressure with all the Sports Illustrated articles and such. I mean, the Fab Five were mostly all freshmen's and they were fine and they were on a cover every fucking magazine there ever was. Sophomore year they won, right? I think so. That was where they went and then Chris Weber fucked up.

Right. Yeah. They were nasty. That was when they were. They won a lot of games. They didn't win the game. Yeah, yeah. So they said Rosiers, they said they've all had their moments.

Proziers came in the Tar Heel's second game of the season when he scored 22 points in a win over Jacksonville. He had scored 10 points and grabbed six rebounds against San Diego State in the first game of the season. And he said, coming out of the tunnel for the first time, he said, that was unbelievable. I had never played before 21,000 people before. It felt real good. So, yeah. He said he got his first basket on a hook shot. And he said, I wasn't really thinking about making my first basket.

But then I heard all the cheering from the crowd. I almost wanted to stop and look. So, yeah, he said that, you know, he said, I knew that he can't never take a break because Dean Smith is always watching. Dean Smith monitors every move. He makes sure the freshmen don't get carried away with their press clippings. And because they keep describing him as the next James Worthy, because Worthy was also on those North Carolina teams.

So, you know, he's like, Dean Smith is like, hey, come down. He's like, you're not James Worthy. They're not big game James quite yet. You're also 6-11. That's a different guy. Fuck, Worthy was 6-9. But he was like a 6-9 small forward. Right.

He wasn't playing power. No, no, this is a totally different thing. But they're saying that's... They're saying that's what he has the potential to be. He's got a good mid-range jumper and all kinds of shit like that, like Worthy had. Rosier said, if I didn't play for Coach Smith, I would have a head as big as a basketball. He shows you on tape where you mess up. He's constantly putting us down.

He always uses the phrase, you're a good prospect. You've achieved nothing yet is what that means. You're fun to look at. Yeah. From process of elimination, that means you haven't done anything yet. Yeah. So you don't get too excited. He said, but he has told the best of them that they were just good prospects.

Michael Jordan, Sam Perkins, James Worthy, J.R. Reed, Bob McAdoo, Bobby Jones, Phil Ford, fucking Mitch Cupcheck, Brad Doherty, were all good prospects. And so he would say Rosier said that he's a good prospect but he can only go as far as Smith lets him basically Dean Smith said

we thought he would be a tremendous prospect a great potential and we recruited him that's so funny he said but he was a little better player than I thought he was when he arrived we have been delighted with his progress he certainly improves almost daily so Gene Smith is one of those guys that says

nicer things about you than to you which is kind of like I kind of like that. That's good. Yeah, I don't want them said too. I want them said about. Both is fine. But don't talk, don't tell me I'm doing well and then talk shit to me to others is what I mean.

It's better to do it the other way around. I'd rather you tell me I'm okay and then tell other people I'm okay too. That'd be even better. But, you know, I'll take one or the other. Yeah. You know, so he also says, I think he has a bright future in my opinion. Without a doubt, I'm better off saying that now since I've had him every day. It's October.

So, yeah, he said that he was scared and nervous when he first showed up, Rosier said. He said the first practices were, quote, long, hard, and rigorous. He said, I never did so much running. There was a lot of teaching, but so much running. He said, I think it hit us, all of us freshmen at the same time. We looked up and saw all those retired jerseys hanging there. The tradition made us work harder. Right.

They said senior forward Rick Fox called Rosier the most confident. freshman of the freshman and Rosier says, quote, definitely I'm confident. What I said I can do on the court, I did in practice. He said, my teammates know I'm confident. That's why they voted to make me carry the equipment.

That is an honor given to, quote, the most cocky freshman every year. Yeah. The guy who thinks he's hot shit, good. You're the guy who carries shit now. He said, they want me to look stupid in airports. Yeah. Yep. Rosier said he was carrying

the team's video equipment Sunday morning in Cincinnati, and Dean Smith is quick to point out that his confident freshman still has a lot to learn. He said his biggest adjustment is not going up against other big people, but in what we do what we want defensively. He's not used to being out on the court. He's used to being under the basket. He's also been called for traveling with the ball quite a bit, and that hurts the team. Yes, it does. Well, Christ, he'd be a superstar today. They just call that a fucking Euro step or some shit or whatever the fuck they want to call. a collector. Gather step. Whatever bullshit you want to call

a travel, you call it whatever you want. If they want to have that, why don't they just change the rules to allow that? Yeah, just say traveling is when you take five steps. Then whatever, fine. The game is stupid and I'm still not watching it anymore, but fucking don't say travel is this and then have guys

it be something else. It's crazy what they do now. It's crazy. Rozier believes he's getting called on the same moves he made in high school but got away with. Oh. So that's what it is. Dean Smith said we anticipating and we are anticipating him getting more

playing time as he learns what we want on defense. Rozier said he said it might be, he was talking about going home and playing in Florida. And he said it might be like Eric Montross getting his chance in his home state. I hope it's I hope it is and I hope to make the best of it.

So this tournament in Florida will give Clifford Senior and Diane Rozier a chance to cheer for their son in person and not on the phone. Diane said, I almost need to get another job to pay for the phone. And Rozier says he admits he calls home a lot. He said, quote, I talk to mama and papa before and after every game plus three or four other times a week. Grow up. Grow up. Go get some pussy. What are you doing? You're in college. Mama and Papa. Mama and Papa. At least it's not daddy. I can't stand when grown

men say daddy. I just want to fucking ugh. Creep up my spine. Daddy? I'm like, oh, no. When a woman says that it's worse. It's even creepier because it almost has a sexual connotation to me. It's way creepier. But when a guy says daddy, I'm just like,

you fucking loser. A woman saying daddy to her dad is awful. Because it does. It has like this almost like weird seductive thing to it where they're almost like, you know what I mean? Like it feels like trying to seduce their dad or some shit, it's weird. I don't get it.

I don't like it. I just don't like it because it feels, yeah, creepy. It's just creepy. It's also a thing of, I think it's also regional because I'm like, we're going to get every single listener south of the Mason Dixon line going, I'm 53. I still call my dad, daddy, and blah, that's what we're going to get because it's just traditional there. And we're not used to that because neither of us are from there. It's not even necessarily that either because in the west, southwest specifically, I hear it all the time. time.

Really? But those are want to be Southern people. The Western people are want to be Southern people. They're want to be Hicks. Perhaps. Well, they're Hicks, but they're want to be rednecks is what I should say. They relate to that. They want to.

They really don't. They have nothing in common with them, but they think they do. They want to. Yeah. You never farmed? No, fuck no. So there's, you couldn't grow a fucking blade of grass out there. There's no water in all sun.

Farms shit. Biches killing house plants talking about Come here, come over here, daddy. Yeah. Daddy? Oh, man.

I love Unrighteous jumpstones. You weirdo. I love how much stank they put on the daddy in righteous gemstones. And they said they do that on purpose to try to make each other laugh.

To try to... The most... Dettie? Because sometimes I'll hear them and they're like, Daddy. Trying to break each other. Yeah.

With the silliest daddy they can. Diane. And Roseir, mom, says it helps keep me relaxed, too. And when he's on TV, you can feel part of it, too. You can feel the excitement. We stomp and yell and carry on. And dad says, you miss him. You really do.

You look at the TV and it's like he's still here. Okay. Diane then says, every mama wants to see her kid in there. If I had might say, he'd be in there all the time playing, you know, coach mama would put him in. Roseir said, I'm the kind of person who's not very patient. I want things to happen now.

But Jordan and Worthy, they all had to wait. It makes them better people on and off the court. This is one of the times I have to wait. And not really. They gave Jordan a game-winning shot in a championship when he was a freshman.

So, I mean, he played less minutes, but they'd put him in when it mattered. I don't know if you're in that situation. That's a big difference. But that's okay. He's playing center in college here. In 34 games, he only starts one game. Oh.

9.3 minutes a game. So, I mean, they're starting them off slow. Yeah. You know, mixing him in the mix. Only 4.9 points and three rebounds a game is freshman year. So, again, they're starting them out real slow. Yeah. He's not going to set the world on fire with those numbers, though.

No, no, not at all. He's not getting to play. And that, despite all of his saying how Dean Smith knows everything, and he's, you know, he's just going. with the program. He gets so fucking pissed off that he didn't play very much that he transfers after the season. Really?

Yeah, can't trust the fucking the process here at all. He said he's impatient and he is. He's going to transfer and he announces a decision. He decided a desire to evolve into a more prominent college and potential pro player

reflecting the challenges that he faced in adapting to Smith's patient and rotation. based approach amid a deep and talented roster. Yeah, he's a small fish in a big pond now. Yeah. Rather than being Mr. Florida basketball.

Now he's one of people trying to get on the court, and he doesn't like that. They said that this move came shortly after UNC's final four runs. We went to the final four and wants out of there. Wow. That says a lot about someone's character. If they go to the final four in a program that Jordan was in, and they're like, but I need it right,

this second. I can't wait. I can't wait even a couple of months. That's not good. Delayed gratification is the biggest sign of maturity if you're okay with that. If you're comfortable with it? If you can delay gratification and not freak out, that's the biggest sign of maturity. Really? I think everybody that fucks shit up, people that end up in jail, people that do dumb shit, people that knock people up for when they don't want to and all that. It's all because they couldn't have delayed gratification. That's all it was. I needed to put my dick in right now, not after I go to 7-Eleven to get a fucking condom. You know, it's that type of shit. So anyway, I guess Kentucky was recruiting him.

Oh. And May 8, 1991, big article here headline, Kentucky admits violation in recruiting Clifford-Roseer. Imagine you've got both of them recruiting you. That's pretty good. Yeah. The problem is you can't recruit a guy who's already on somebody's team. Oh, right, right, right. That's the issue.

They said the University of Kentucky coming off a two-year NCAA probation for basketball recruiting misdeeds and academic fraud admitted it violated another rule last year or last weekend in recruiting a transfer player. You can't do that. That's tampering. Even in the pros, you're not allowed to do that. No. You know, Kentucky athletic director and coach Rick Patino said the violation occurred when

recruit Clifford Rozier attended a post-Kentucky derby. party at a Louisville home Saturday night. Yeah, where he got eight blow jobs in a room somewhere, I'm sure. Got a lot of alcohol going on, I'm sure that. Oh, I'm sure he had a good old time. The applicable rule states that a school may entertain and recruit only within a 30-mile radius of the school, and Louisville is 75 miles west of Lexington. Oh, down.

It's only how they did it. It's not even that they did it. So, anyway, he was at Kentucky for... for a 48-hour official visit over the weekend, and they said, we understand the rules and we're going to follow them. They just didn't think it was, you know. Didn't know it was a rule.

Didn't know it was a law. It was literally 45 more miles. It's the same thing, though. If the house and party was within the sphere, it would have been fine. The athletic director said, I'd be surprised if they treat it any differently than a secondary violation.

And Petino said, the penalty will face is not having a great player in our program. The university's procedure for reporting the violation will be to submit a report to the Southeastern Conference and all of that. The athletic director said, I think Kramer was appreciative that we were on top of it. He agreed with the stance we took to close the recruiting. So Petino attended the Derby and said he was notified by a personal friend that Rozier had attended the party with Kentucky guard Sean Woods and former players,

Hansen and Paul Andrews. Patino described the violation as both the high and low moment because Rozier told him that he would attend Kentucky next season. So he's like, sweet, got him. And then they were like, no you don't, fucker. He said no matter how minor or major, it may be. It's a violation, Patino said. We turned ourselves immediately in and we have stopped recruiting Clifford Rozier,

which is very unfortunate for us because he is just about better than any high school player we could hope to get, and he'd have a year under his belt, too. Okay. So that makes perfect sense. Petino said his intent was to show a player a good time, meaning the guy who invited him to the party, the one, the Woods guy, other player. He said that he doesn't want this Woods guy to be the fall guy. He said, I feel sorry for him.

He was just trying to help, but his methods were wrong. That'll happen. May 17, 1991, Roseir plans to transfer from UN. C to Louisville. Here we go. There we go. He's going to Kentucky one way or the

fucking other here. He said that the recruiting controversy around him was quote, ridiculous, first of all. Ridiculous. And he said he can't

wait to play for Louisville. He said they have a running team. That's something I was used to in high school. They have a lot of athletes, good players, basically coach crumb lets players do the things

they're good at. And I think that's something that will help me in the long run. And don't learn. new things. Only do what you're comfortable doing over and over again. It's for the best. It's for the best. Exactly. That's the way you really live life, I think. That's the best

way to do it. Stay in your comfortable sweet spot and never never grow. Don't grow. No. Don't grow. Exactly. Growth is the mother of all fuck-ups. Growth is the enemy here. Oh, boy. For him, it really fucked up his whole life, too.

It really put him in the spotlight. Growth is the enemy is probably the name of this show, by the way, this week. And he said, he wanted to go here. He said, it's the rivalry between Louisville and Kentucky. The coaches at Louisville weren't careful or were careful during my visit, and I didn't do anything to break any rules. It's too bad things happen between the Kentucky schools.

It makes me look like a bad person that he went to the rival instead. He's like, I just wanted to go to a good school. I don't give a fuck which basketball school I go to. Now he has to sit out a year because of the transfer. This isn't like now. So he has to sit out his whole sophomore season, and then he still has three years remaining eligibility. February 13, 1992, his sister, Kira, is the starting center for the South Florida women's team. How about it?

She's a freshman averaging 9.4 points and 7.5 rebounds while Clifford sits out. So she's 6'2, by the way. Wow. So it does not play this year. Sat out as mandatory season and all of that. horseshit. And so February 1992, he's bored. Yeah. He's sitting out the 91-992 season. Yeah. He's not even in school. He might be in

Louisville. I'm not sure if he can go to school or not. But he's at the school anyway. And he is arrested on February 92. This isn't good by the University of Louisville police and charged with third-degree criminal trespass for entering a dormant. He'd been barred from. Oh. So I've been told not to be here. Yeah, he's already been banned. He's been trespassed and he's back.

So anyway, and he's also having academic difficulty at Louisville as well. This is a dumb dumb. Not doing well there. The coach, Denny Crum, assessing his team's outlook for 92, 93 when he'd be, you know, an available player. Sure. He said that he'll have a major role if he's academically eligible. He said, quote, I don't want to talk about him until he makes his grades. Hopefully he will.

Yeah, but I don't like to speculate. I am hopeful he'll be able to play. Right. So we don't know. Who knows? In the media guide, Rozier stated that his goal was to own a business one day. Oh. He claimed to enjoy camping and playing tennis,

which I've never once heard of any thing of this guy playing any kind of tennis. But maybe he's doing it while he's off to stay in shape. I don't recall hearing it. anybody in my life that enjoyed those two things. Camping and tennis? Yeah. They're weird. Those are different people.

They're disparate. Very disparate. What do we just hear on Small Town Murder that was one of those that was like that and that he likes? What the hell is that? Oh, the guy was a pianist and a welder. Yeah. It was like, huh?

Very good. What the? You don't get that. No. He listed his father, Clifford, Sr. As the best athlete he ever faced as ever faced. Wow. Cliff Senior.

Not Eric Montchross. Cliff Sr. And also as the person who had the biggest influence on his athletic career, all that kind of shit. 92, 93, Louisville, they're 22 and 9. Pretty good on this team. Greg Minor, that's different, not Harold Minor, Greg Minor. Greg Minor was the... I don't know, Greg Minor.

He's a guard. I know Harold. They were brothers, right? Probably. He's a guard, too, so that sounds right. Same right around the time. Here's a guy I've never heard of, but maybe the best basketball name that's ever existed. Brian Hopgood.

Don't know him. That's a good name. It's a great hop good. That's awesome. That's perfect. As a sophomore here, he does very well, much better. He starts 30 out of 31 games and plays 30.8 minutes a game. They weren't fucking around when they said they were going to play him.

averaging 15.7 points and 10.9 rebounds, and he's named the best player in the Metro Conference. Which is goddamn good stuff here. So he came in and went in his environment. He plays very well. Problem is, September 5, 1993, there's a big headline in the Louisville Career Journal. Cards Rozier faces charges after incident.

Uh-oh. He was arrested late Friday night on charges of alcohol intoxication. resisting arrest, criminal littering and menacing. Those are all pretty bad. That's a shitty situation is what that is. That sounds like he let his mouth get him more charges than he would have had if he just shut the fuck up and took the ticket for underage consumption. Just shut up and go your way. But he had a bad night.

He didn't have a good night at all. He had a chip on a shoulder about something. He pleaded not guilty during his arraignment and was released on his own recognizance. He'll be on the court anyway here. All the charges are Class B misdemeanors, and they all carry a penalty of up to 90 days or a fine. So, according to the police report, a patrolman saw Rozier throw trash out of the passenger side window of a car parked in a handicapped space on the 5300 block of South 3rd Street. While the driver, who was not identified, was being cited for parking in the handicapped space, Roseer twice got out of the car despite an officer's request to stay inside. You dumb fuck.

You fucking idiot. He didn't have to do that at all. He wasn't out on the streets drunk and talked to him. He didn't have to do shit. Cops said don't. And he said, I will. I bet he wasn't even going to charge him for the littering. He just got his attention to get him for the handicapped spot.

Very likely, yeah. He said the second time, Rozier, quote, doubled his fist in a threatening manner as the officer approached him. like he was going to punch him. As the officer attempted to handcuff Rozier, he pulled away and resisted. The report said, adding that Rosier had bloodshot eyes

and smelled of alcohol, police said they found several wine bottles inside and outside the car. Why would you have that? How the fuck do they get outside the car? What happened? What were they doing, man? The coach Denny Crum said he was well aware

of the incident and said, quote, we will thoroughly review the matter internally and we'll have no further comment. In other words, see that rug? See that rug? Hand me this broom. Yeah. We'll never talk about this ever again.

Nope. So that's what he's doing. They said he transferred and here he is. 93-94 Louisville Cardinals, 28 and 6. Even better this year. Not bad. 10th in the final AP poll here.

Great. Again, these guys, nobody that are really like big NBA stars on this team or anything. So Jimmy King was a good player for a while, I think. Not this year. Christ, no, he wasn't.

Five games, and he averaged zero points. That's not good. That's real bad. I think he was a good player at one point. I think he played for somebody else in transfer. I think he was thinking of Stacey King. No, I was thinking of Jimmy King, because it's spelled like you. And I went, that fucking jogged it in my brain.

Did we perhaps talk about him last week? He might have been a great high school player that was one of those guys that was like a elite high school player that turned out to have zero points of game one year. October 30th, 1993, the day before his birthday, Roseer says he's not planning an early exit. No? Nope. He says he doesn't guarantee, you know, he says he's prepared to open practice for the season here. And he said, he made a promise to the fans not to deliver that he pledges that he won't.

Don't make, you know, just take the money and go for the draft. Yeah. He said, yeah, or they said, the paper said, there's big bucks out there that lured out Chris Weber, Anthony Hardaway, Penny, Jamal Mashburn, Sean Bradley into the NBA before their eligibility have expired. If you're young and listening and don't get it, it used to be a big deal when guys didn't play all four years. Yeah.

That was a big deal. When they came out early, even after their junior season, people were like, whoa, mind-blown. What a risk. What a risk. He said, quote, I'm definitely going to stick around. His next line should have been, I only had 15.7 points a game last year, and I don't think the NBA is going to pick me in the first. Nobody wants me. I don't think I'm a lottery pick, so I'm going to stay.

He said, I ain't going nowhere. We got some winning to do here, even if we win the national championship, I'm back next season. The only thing I've given any thought to is getting back on the court. I really just want to continue playing. the NBA hasn't even crossed my mind. Oh. Come on, Clifford. Come now.

I'm not even thinking about it. I don't consider. It didn't even cross my mind. He said that, yeah, he said, winning games here is the only thing I'm thinking about. He said, I'm getting stronger and faster, and coach is teaching me a lot. I've got a lot of holes in my game. I think I need to fill. Yeah, because they were asking him, are you going to skip it?

Are you going to skip it? they said that this is the coach. I'd be surprised if Cliff came into this season even worrying about next year. And to be honest with you, I'm not either. It's always a possibility, I guess. If you can get the kind of money they're throwing around, you'd be crazy not to take it.

You'd be an absolute nut. Absolutely moron. Yeah. On the other hand, if you know you have a great team coming back and a chance to win the national championship, you might want to enhance your position, and that might weigh on some people's minds. And then obviously, too, you have the,

You could get hurt and all that. Sure. Okay, November 20th, 1993. Here is a headline, and this is, just keep this in mind for later on. Quote, Rosier says and does all of the right things is the headline. All of the right things. Says and does, both, all the right things. All right.

Yeah. This is the Evansville Courier and Press. They say Clifford Rozier will contemplate the past if you ask. him, but he doesn't dwell on what ifs. While Rozier was named a Metro Conference player of the year in his first season at Louisville, he says North Carolina won

the NCAA tournament title. So he threw away winning a national championship, though, but he wouldn't have those kind of stats. Rozier said it worked out for the best. Who knows? If I had stayed at Carolina, they might have lost. They had the right chemistry, and it was their turn to

win. Coach Smith had only won one other national championship, ship, they're the team to beat again this year. Rozier says he has no regrets and no hard feelings toward the tar heels. Or hard feelings. He said, quote, I made the move to benefit Clifford. Here we go. Here it comes, everybody.

Oh, Clifford. Clifford hasn't made a dime, and he's already third person. He said, North Carolina will go on as a good school. They're always recruiting good players. When asked if his goal is to repeat as Metro Player of the Year, He said, our goal is to get to Charlotte for the final four. I believe if we win enough games, the individual honors will come. There it is.

That's right. That's right. So he's doing great. He said sometimes you make goals you can't achieve and you're really disappointed. You can't get there. Everybody has to pull together, saying they wanted to win the championship last year. He said that they lost their leading score who averaged 16.1 points a game last year. and he said it's a major setback. He's a leader and one of the two seniors on the team who plays much.

He's our go-to guy. It puts a lot of pressure on Coach Crum to use different players until he gets back in the lineup. He was hurt there. He then says, it always takes time with freshmen, Rosier said. They come to school as the main attraction, the go-to guys. In college, they have to become role players and learn the system. It can be a shock, but our guys are learning fast. No shock to the system.

And he said he's learned to deal with his critics. Some say he doesn't always play with intensity. Takes a plays off here. He says, I answer that by stating that everyone has a right to his opinion, but it's only that an opinion. I want to go out and do what it takes for Louisville to win. I need to play up to my up to 40 minutes as hard as I can. 40's a whole college game, by the way. Like it's my last game.

Two, 20 minutes a halfs. November 24th, 1993. his criminal littering charge is all taken care of now. Oh, good. He is going to plead guilty to criminal littering and get you, sir, may fuck off a $50 fine. Criminal littering, not even just civil. This is criminal. You fucking criminal.

He also pleaded guilty to an amended charge of harassment, and the judge conditionally waived a $100 fine for two years on the harassment. Okay. So one of Rosier's most notable performances of the season came on December 11, 1993, when he set an NCAA single game record for field goal percentage by going 15 for 15 from the floor against Eastern Kentucky, scoring 32 points in a big win. Hell yeah. This feat remains the highest perfect shooting performance in Division I history for that many attempts. Wow. To this day. Okay.

On February 11th, 1994, Tampa Tribune is a headline. Louisville's Rozier does things his way. Oh, boy. Or no way. Yeah. Yeah. They said the head coach was away. Denny Crum had been inducted to the Basketball Hall of Fame and was in New York for a news conference.

His team was almost on its own at a practice in Tampa early Wednesday evening. After a few drills, the players lounged. Nothing serious. The USF game was a full day away. In short, walk-ons were welcome. The liveliest newcomer was two-foot-six inches tall and weighed 43 pounds. What? He's going to be tough on the dribble, man.

He's got a load of the floor. He's low center of gravity. You can't take that ball. Look at Mugsy. Two-foot, what? Two-foot-six, 43 pounds. He's going to be a beast on D. He can't stop him.

His paternal grandparents tried a collapsing defense to keep him off the Sun Dome floor. Three-year-olds eat collapsing defense. is alive. Diane, the grandmother, says, no one tells him what to do. Dominique is just like his daddy. Oh, boy, Clifford's got a baby. Nobody tells Daddy what to do.

Nope. The child lifted an orange boulder from a practice rack. Dominique, whose mother lives in Bradenton and whose father is a junior at the Louisville University of Louisville, wanted to play with the older boys. Dominique's father called to him

after lazily sinking a jumper. Stay out of the way, he told the son. He's three. Stay out of the way. It means nothing. That bounced off him like a fucking bullet off robocop. That's ridiculous. That's silly. Dominique ignored him, stumbled after another loose ball. His father smiled ever so slightly. Got his own way, Clifford Rozier said. I mean, the kid does. He's got his own way. He does his thing. They describe him here. So now maybe daddy knows how people feel. about him. He remains a friendly,

boisterous, an invariable, uncontrollable youngster. Right. Yeah. A talent worthy of college honors and soon professional dollars. He fills a room with his smile or a police blotter with ink. He can dominate a second half after sleeping through the first.

He can be NBA, he can be CBA, as Dick Vital suggested. Up to him. He remains totally Clifford. His mother said a lot of people are mysteries, whoever understood Howard Hughes, who understands Michael Jordan.

People like Clifford out to accomplish big things, their brainwaves are not like ours. Right. Nobody else gets it. He doesn't even, his brainwaves aren't like ours. Only, I mean, you know, Einstein, Howard Hughes, Jordan, guys like that, you know, maybe. People really vibrating on a high level, but

us regular folk, we're... Not a chance. Yeah, we just a little, Baskin is in his reflected light and his reflected glory. What is he? To Diane and her former husband, Cliff Sr., apparently that hasn't worked out. The oldest son will always be bug, short for June bug. A nickname Cliff Jr. picked up long before he dominated in basketball here. So he said, all Diane and her ex-husband know is their son has a talent, and he came a long way to get where he is.

He wore braces for seven years as a child. Oh, what? What? To straighten, to straighten, oh, there's a misprint. It says to straighten bowlers. Does they mean molars? Mollers? Seven years to straighten?

Seven. I've never heard of seven years. Years? Seven years is in, I've never heard of that before. I've heard of three. Three is like extreme. Yeah, that's absurd. Yeah, you're like, wow.

That means you're going to wear just like that metal head gear at night for the rest of your life. Those motherfuckers were in upside down. what that means. Like that wasn't, they had to spin them. You were born with somebody else's teeth. Yeah, like crooked and fucking in the wrong places, molars up front. Seven years. Insizers in the back. Yeah, it's fucking crazy.

Seven years. Move them around for guys. They're really going to go. So yeah, Cliff Sr. said he marches to his own drum. Who does it? Right. I guess. Thursday's game with

USF provided typical cliff notes. He spun on the baseline and dunked, then walked back on defense. He seemed to disappear as South Florida made this a game at the half, but after a pause, Clifford rose against USF's single man coverage. He said, quote, they were disrespectful

covering me with one guy. How dare they? That's like when Larry Bird would yell at coaches that they were being disrespectful when they put a white guy on him. Are you fucking disrespecting me right now, motherfucker, he'd yell at them. Don't put this fucking white guy on me. That's bullshit. He goes,

know that's bull. Like, you know I'm offended by that shit, right? How dare you? So Clifford dunked. He made eight straight points, blocked five shots. He hit a ridiculous scoop. Clifford scored 25 and his team won, 6550. He was the difference. USF coach said. See, even when he's lazy, he can do it. That's a problem in the NBA, though. That's going to be bad. They said, this is the way it usually works with Clifford, who is 21 and was Metro Conference player of the year last year. Bears often work harder in the winter than he does, though. That's not good, because they're sleeping.

He calls his Hall of Fame coach Denny, or the new one, Bossman. How about coach? That's usually more... Coach is good. You don't call them by their first name, that's for sure. No, and Boss Man means you're getting paid, so I'd like to check into that. Boss Man puts up with it and hangs 10 on Clifford's brainwaves. he is that good when he wants to be.

Rozier says, the label doesn't bother me. He says, no, no. He says that he traces that back to leaving Chapel Hill after his freshman year. He says, no one does that, no one. He's proud of it. No one leaves Dean Smith. He thinks no one in college basketball can stop him down low. He thinks he'll play in the NBA, probably after his senior season.

And he said, labels mean nothing to him. He says, I hear a lot of people talking about the NBA. these same ones that said after I left Carolina that I'd wind up in Florida working on a garbage truck. And yeah. So they said Dominique was scrambling for another basketball.

His father scooped him up and walked toward an exit. The child played with his father's shaved head while it was round enough. It's like a ball. Rozier said, I don't care what people think. He said, then the kid was doing all sorts of shit and Clifford stopped and said,

tried to keep him from squirming and said, that's kids. they squirm. So this year, here he is, 34 games played, 34 games started, 32 and a half minutes per game, 18.1 points,

11.1 rebound, so he improved on everything this year. Not bad. Also, 2.2 blocks a game, which is an improvement of almost a whole block from the year before. Denny Crum said he was probably the best rebounder I ever had. And he said he never had a problem with Rosea,

although in later years he'll have a problem with Rosier when he's not on the team anymore and his mother is calling Denny Crumb for advice on how to deal with him. Nice. So later on he's got a little bit of a drug issue and his mom's calling the coach

and the coach said, I told her I wished I could snap my fingers and come up with an answer but she needs to find him professional help is what he said later. I got nothing for him. I don't do drugs. I don't know how to help that.

I can't help. I can't make him stop doing drugs. Especially from a distance. That seems like the fucking going to do that. The issue, he's got a tackle. I would say so. So, 1994, he is ready for prime time. He's coming out in the NBA draft, baby.

Here we go. Here we go. And I think this is after his junior year, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, junior year. It's been four years since high school, but he's not out of year. So his junior year, 1994 NBA draft is in Indianapolis. Oh, 94. 94.

Here we go. Number one overall pick 1994 right in your wheelhouse, Jimmy. Right in both our wheelhouses. Who is it? Iverson? No. It is not. That was 96. It's 97. 94. Is that Alonzo morning? It is not. Who the fucking 94. Number one draft pick. Glenn Robinson. Big dog. Oh, yeah. That's a good pick. It's a good pick out of Purdue there. He played 11 years in the league. Problem is number two and three pick were much better. Yeah. This is the problem. Number two, overall is Jason Kidd. Yeah.

Which, you know, had a pretty goddamn good career. It's a great guard, yeah. He beats the show of his wife, but boy, oh boy. He's this guy. We've talked about him. He's a dickhead. Boy, does he suck.

But boy, is he good. 19 years in the league, not bad. Then number three overall. Know who it is? Shit, is it Mashburn? No, Grant Hill. Oh. Yeah.

Some similar guy. Grant Hill was a tremendous. When he got, before he heard himself, He was so fucking good. Deadly. Yeah. And there was guys in the league that, you know, do interviews now that were in the league at the time and said, his first couple years before he heard his knee, they said that he was the next Jordan. He was going to be a problem.

Yeah. They said, that was the guy he could do everything and you couldn't fucking stop. I mean, the quickest first step anybody had ever seen for a guy who's six fucking eight. That's a pretty impressive thing. What Jordan was dangerous for was obviously his cuts to the basket for easy shots. but he was so fucking good at a 15-foot jumper, and so was Grant Hill. Disgusting, disgusting mid-range jumper.

And you can't guard it. No, Hill did everything well. Everything. And they said, as quick a first step as Hill had, too, that mid-range jumper was a motherfucker because if he had faked, you had to respect it, and then he'd blow by you and you were fine. And if you got too low, he'd just shoot you.

He'd just shoot over you, and that was that. Right. And if you bite on his drive, and you're three steps back. He's pulling up and it's over anyway. We're back down the other side of the court. He was so good. Absolutely.

He was so good. Number four, Doniel, Detroit, yeah. Daniel Marshall, number four from Minnesota. It's a good pick. He was going to Minnesota. He played 15 years in the league. I mean, you know, he did his thing.

Number five, Juan Howard. One of the Michigan fellas come in. 19 years in the league there. Number six, whoof, not a great pick. Sharon Wright of Philly. Four years in the league. Philly picked him. Sharon Wright. Jesus. Clippers after that, Lamon Murray, Brian Grant for Sacramento. His freshman teammate, Clifford's freshman teammate, Eric Montross goes number nine to Boston. They deemed him white enough to be drafted by them. Is that right? He's one of the whitest players who's ever played in the league and they were like, I mean, there's no other spot better than Boston. It's here or Utah or.

The Grizzlies, but they've got big country. They don't need you. No, they got him, I think, the next year, big country, right? Number 10 overall, Eddie Jones. Eddie Jones is a real underrated player. Nobody remembers shit about Eddie Jones. That motherfucker could score it one time. Was that Eddie Popeye Jones?

No. That was just Eddie Jones. Played for the heat after that, played for the Lakers. He left, he played for the Lakers and then left after Kobe came up because they were bumping his playing time and went down to Miami and was real nasty down there. See what I mean? Eddie,

he was such a good player and he was in the league for 14 years and you don't even remember which one he is. Right, yeah. That's crazy. Carlos Rogers,

Khalid Reeves, Jalen Rose 13th overall. Great pick, yeah. Yank Adare, one of the worst first round picks of all time there. Clippers or where was that, New York?

The Nets. Nets. New Jersey. Yeah, we'll put them where they belong. Eric Pietkowski, Jesus, Indiana. Indiana, again. Indiana?

Indiana. And then number 15 overall, the Golden State Warriors choose Clifford Rozier out of Blueville. 16th overall. Yep. After that, you had Aaron McKee, Eric Mobley, Tony Dumas, B.J. Tyler, Dickie Simpkins, Bill Curley, Wesley Pearson, Monty Williams, Greg Miner, Charlie Ward, the Heisman Trophy winner, and Brooks Thompson. And look who else came. Antonio Lang. It's a pretty solid first round.

it's not bad it's they had before that the couple years before that was like the chris webber penny hardaway they had was a stack draft and jamal mashburn was the year before i believe a bunch of stack guys yeah because the mavics had mashburn kid and uh yeah they had that fun fucking oh my god it was a great if you played live 95 no the hardaway went to orlando but if you we went to golden state traded to orlando but he uh if uh if uh if uh if uh if uh if uh if uh if uh if uh if uh if you uh if uh if I don't remember now. Jimmy Jackson. Jimmy Jackson.

There you go. That was 97, I think. I think it was that year. I think it was Jack. Nash. Nash. Steve Nash. There you go.

And Jackson. God damn. Yeah, they had a young team. That good young team, then they broke it up. Who else? Vachan Leonard, Howard Isley. Those are second rounders. So Don Nelson of the Warriors looking for a big man who could dominate.

So he's trying here. 94 he picks him and he's thinking that this will allow Weber to only play power forward and then move Billy Owens to the three. Okay. Okay. So that's what he's looking about here, looking to do here. He said Don Nelson after drafting Rosier, I like a lot of young guys. That's a really bad statement to make.

Don't ever say those words. He said he's made mistakes. The more he's matured, the more he's matured, the more highly. he's been thought of, I wouldn't call him a risk. When the subject of his effort or lack of thereof is brought up to Nelson, he says one of the things that happens to gifted players is the game comes so easily to them that they don't always work as hard as they should.

And he said, in the subject of desire, he said there's room for improvement there. Yeah. So that's not, that's everybody said that. You know what I mean? He said that the subject of Rosier's two final final two college games came up, which was NCAA tournament games

in which he scored two and five points. Rosia Nelson said there was a reason for that. He was double-teamed, and when he passed the ball every time, they're saying that seemed to be the strategy of the coach as soon as you get it, kick it back out because they're going to double you. So they said that Warriors got Rosier on a conference call with reporters who inquired about an incident

in which Rozier was being followed by police and threw an open can of beer out the window. That's what he did? That's what they say. Littering, he said by way of explanation. That's all it really was. It was a certain policeman who didn't like the idea of the way basketball players get treated.

Because if you threw a fucking beer can out your window, they would totally be fine with it, right? That's... I mean, littering would be the... The last thing on their mind. They'd be like, oh, it's just a night. It's not a basketball player. It's fine.

What an idiot. It was a messy first impression, which got messier after the draft had concluded. Nelson had left the building, and reporters were packing up their recorders and shit. It was then that the Warriors Public Relations Director announced that the team was actively working on a trade. The specifics of such couldn't be divulged for, quote, at least another nine days. Wow. So at the end of the evening,

there was no certainty that they were even hanging on to Rozier or announcing him as their new guy. He was just like kind of in limbo here. Turns out he stayed. The trade was for other people, Marcellonis and Byron Houston to Seattle for Ricky Pearson, Carlos Rogers.

So this is July 13th, 2003. There's an article that says, Best Day is an athlete. and he says about his stuff, the day I was drafted, that would have to be the highlight of my career. My mom and pop and my brother were there with me in Indianapolis. There were a lot of people in there, maybe 20,000.

It was a bigger event than I had anticipated. The way the NBA handled the college players, the way they treated you, took away a lot of the suspense of not knowing, you know, where you'd end up playing and whether you'd be up to playing at that level. He said, my thoughts that day were, not at all on the work and preparation.

I did that got me to that point, but rather I was overcome by a sense of relief that, quote, it's finally over. Oh, thank God. Wow, you are completely wrong. It is, fuck, now with the hard part. Yeah, it just started, man. Yeah, now everybody I play against is good. He said I was 21 years old and all I was thinking about was playing basketball.

Yeah, you're going to have to guard Akima Lajuan and Shaq. And fucking Ewing. David Robinson. That's who you're guarding now. This isn't Louisville. This is crazy. This is going to get real ugly, real fast. Dude, the center, the 90s center game was rough.

Crazy. These were a lot of really good centers. They played rough and tough, and the D was no shit down there. It wasn't like now. You know, the center game was in the paint, and it was rough. It was a different game. So right away, he's chosen. This is so dumb.

He's chosen as the 16th overall pick. So you want to take, you're going to get a good chunk of money up front. Yeah. You want to take that and, you know, do something smart with it. Certainly. Okay, something happens here. The things that he does that are smart is he buys $250,000 worth of clothes. Fucking A. Yeah.

Clothes. Well, he probably doesn't have many. In 94? Yeah. I don't think I've spent, I haven't spent. I haven't spent $250,000 on clothes in my entire life, ever. If you added everything from fucking onesies on up, not even close to that. Nowhere near it.

And he bought $100,000 Mercedes in 94. $100,000, $1995 Mercedes. What the fuck was that? An SL convertible? It's an S.L. 500. Or maybe. Do they have those in 94? Maybach started in the 90s, for sure.

They started in the late 90s, but it might have been then, yeah, $100,000. It's not like every fucking car is $100,000 now. Pickup trucks are $100 grand now, but not then. That's crazy. I mean, it started in 1909, but, yeah. Making those models. I mean, they've been doing, they did Daimler Chrysler's. They did all kinds of cars.

So it depends on who they were contracted with. 97 is when they started the Mercedes. That's exactly what I thought it was for some reason, 97. In the 60s, it was. No, they've been doing, they've been doing, they've been doing, and Rose Royces since the 60s. So who the fuck knows? It could have been a Maybach.

It could have been one of those fucking Rentek v12 SL 500s. Yep. Either way, it's a fucked with Mercedes. It's not a manufacturer car. It's a crazy car. They said he would pull his new car into the parking lot before games and step out wearing a $3,000 suit and $700 size 17 shoes. Hasn't done a goddamn thing.

He must be. Is he hanging out with Derek Bell? Because this is like, at the same time they're doing the same dumb shit. I mean, this is dumb. Is this, is this, it was a thing, right? That they would do that back then, that just like, once you made it, they started just blowing it. This isn't all his fault either, though, with the clothes and with the shit. The NBA back then, the older players and the more established veterans would make fun of the rookies if they weren't in top-notch shit.

Like, there's all these fucking stories of Charles Oakley would do that with guys. They go, we're going to your, your shopping, motherfucker. I'm taking you to the, this is bullshit. You look like, you know, and they take them out and make him spend $100,000 on clothes. And they're like, holy fuck, I couldn't afford that. I was scared shitless. Roast me all you want. I'm not spending $100,000 on clothes.

No. Like me every day. I don't give a shit. I can't remember the fucking player, but there was a player talking about Charles Oakley in the late 90s when Oak was like a veteran been around forever and making big money and all that kind of shit. And this player was saying he was a rookie and he was trying to buy a car. Yeah. And he walked in to buy a car and they wouldn't fucking let him buy a car because he didn't have any credit.

And nothing. Right. And he's like, but I'm on the team and shit. And they're like, man, get the fuck out of here. And they sent him away. So he got all upset. And he said Charles Oakley called him from his car phone back in the day. And he said, you know, what happened?

He's like, man, this is fucking bullshit. Man, try to buy this car for fucking seven. grand man and they wouldn't fucking let me do it I gotta go do all this shit and Oak said be down outside in 10 minutes and the guy said all right yeah he said he said he said and he goes Oak pulls up in his crazy ass

fucking you know $200,000 car and he goes what you need 70 he said man get it out the fucking bag and he said in the back seat he had a fucking duffel bag full of cash full of stack bank

stacked fucking $10,000 stacks of cash and he said, I just took seven stacks and he said, all right, he goes, I never paid him back, he never asked for it, I don't even know what the fuck. He just gave me 70 grand and cashed. Who said that? I can't remember the fucking player, but he was a rookie at the time. He goes, I just went and I bought the car with the 70 grand

Charles Oakley gave me, but he goes, hey get it out the $70,000. He said it annoyed, like, get it out the fucking bag. Like, what are you thinking, man? Like, he's a pimp, Charles Oakley. How much money did he make? He had to make a shit load, right? He made a shitload, yeah. He was around for a long time. Is he okay?

He's doing great, Charles Ugly, I think. He's a crazy motherfucker. He's the, him and my favorite story is the guy, when he was a coach, he told a player not to have a towel on his head during the game. And then he had a towel on his head. Yeah. And he told him, he told him on the bench, I'm going to fucking smack the shit out of you after this game. He goes, he went in there and started giving this guy the business. And he goes, this guy was sitting on the thing.

And he goes, Oak was about to hit him. And it's Stephen Jackson telling the story. He goes, I had to go over and grab him. go, please don't You're a coach. You can't slap people. You're a coach. Please don't slap the shit out of him, man.

Please don't do that. I think it was, I care of where it was, but he goes, he goes, you're going to fuck up his whole psyche if you beat him up now. That's not going to be good for us. He only made $43 million. Wow.

Well, he didn't give a fuck then. No. His first year, rookie year made $75 grand with the bull. The man didn't make shit. I mean, we're talking about 1996, money. He did fine. Then he made a lot of money after that.

From the Knicks, he made a bunch of money. Then he went to Toronto and he was the veteran getting paid up there. Biggest season he ever made was $12 million. But he played 19 years, made $12 million one year, only made $30 million over 18 years. He spent like a... For Charles Oakley? For Charles Oakley. What a deal.

Those giant ass suits had to be expensive. Those are huge. He's a big man. So 94-95 Golden State. Let's see how this stew of a roster comes together, how this soup tastes. 26 and 56. They suck. Yeah.

That is terrible. Don Nelson gets fired halfway through the year. Poor thing. Terrible. Fucking bad. And Bob Lanier takes over the NBA Hall of Fame or Bob Lanier in there. Or basketball Hall of Famer. There's no NBA Hall of Fame.

So there you go. That's what happens that year. this, I'll read off their lineup here, or their roster. Victor Alexander, Mnute Bull on this squad. Yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah. Chris Gatling, here's one of our guys. He's a,

wow, they had Gatling and Rosier on the same fucking team. At the same time. Wow, Tom Gugliata's goofy ass. Yeah. Tim Hardaway in his crossover. Rod Higgins, Keith Jennings, Tim Legler, Ryan Lorthridge, Danielle Marshall, Dwayne

Morton, Chris Mullen, Ricky Pierce, Carlos Rogers, Cliff Rozier, Ronnie Cycley, and David Wood, and of course, Littrell Spreewell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So May 11th, 1995, Rosier, this is fucking insane. Rozier seeks OK to join Sharks, is the headline. San Jose? This is so weird. If Clifford Rozier has his way, he will be in a Florida Sharks uniform for next Tuesday night's USBL home opener at the Manatee Civic Center in Palmetto.

Oh, because it's home. He wants to play with the local team? You're in the NBA, motherfucker. You're a first round draft pick. You play for the Warriors, man. What are you doing? He said, I want to play here while watching the Sharks work out Wednesday afternoon at the Manatee Community College Hal Chacey Jim. But I have some things to mull over and work out. Okay. Yeah. The final decision, might not be for the former Southeast High School stars to make, though. The Golden State Warriors, with whom he recently completed his rookie season, have yet to give their blessing for his request to play here.

I guess because their season's over. There's no playoffs. So he's looking to do like a winter league for like they do in baseball. I probably there could be a star down here. I think I can do it. The warrior's concern, according to Sharks General Manager Jim Jennings, is in the area of insurance. Yeah.

The coach said if he can play for, us and not adversely affect his contract with the Warriors, there's no problem. But I think they'll need to do some revisions to his contract before he can play here. It's my understanding that under his current contract, if he were to come here and get hurt, his contract would become invalid. That's not good. Rozier could not confirm that was the case, because as he put it, I have not even approached the Warriors about the possibility of me playing in this league. Maybe you should talk to them before you talk to the media about it. You're contracted with them.

He's been talking to the coach and the general manager down there. Talk to your team that pays you, stupid. Wow. Complicating the situation is the fact that the Warriors currently do not have a head coach and or general manager because Don Nelson was both. Okay. So they got Lanier, but is Lanier leaving after the season? He's the interim, yeah.

They said, so we really don't know who we should talk to. But whoever that person is, I really don't see them saying I can't. play for the sharks. I don't know who to talk to about this. The other problem with that is when you have a completely new regime coming in, they want to make their own team. I mean, you come into a new team. If you're a GM and a coach or both, you don't want whatever leftovers there are.

Because then if you win, someone else gets credit for that. And if you lose, it's not your guys. So that's a problem for Rozier. But Rozier said he expects to have a definitive answer from the Warriors officials by the weekend. How does he expect that? He hasn't even talked to them yet or no, in one sentence, he said, I don't know who to talk to for this. And then the next sentence, he said, I should have an answer by this weekend. I'll know later. Yeah. He said, I don't want to lead people on or build up their hopes by saying there's an 80% chance I'll be playing next Tuesday. But if it were all up

to me, then there's a 100% chance I'll be playing. Oh. He said, if he doesn't join the sharks, Rosier said, I'll probably have someone working me out this summer running on the train. and in the wait room, I'd rather be playing than running and doing other stuff, though. All right.

Okay. Later this summer, Rozier will take part in Pete Newell's big man camp in Hawaii and a four-day free-throw shooting camp in Texas. Yeah.

He said, but those aren't until July, and that's after the USBL season is over. You know, they said, on the Sharks roster, this could be awesome. I think he could help us, and we could help him improve his game what the coach said.

Eric Musselman was the coach. He was another former player there. He showed up this year. He's an NBA caliber player, especially at the end of the season when he rebounded and played really well. Rozier said, quote, I got an education all year long.

I was like the stock market. Early in the season, I was up and I was down. But at the end of the year, I felt like I really figured out some things and got into a groove. I think the team did too, once we got people healthy and played some games together. Okay.

Interesting. So, yes, 6.8.7.4 rebounds per game this year. He did play in 66 games and started 34. Right. For the team. Okay. Let's see. May 27, 1995, not going well.

He goes home to Florida to play against Orlando. and they say whoever missed Clifford Rozier's NBA homecoming game shouldn't feel deprived. Those who showed up or watched on TV didn't see anything either. Rozier was held scoreless

playing only 14 minutes Sunday afternoon as the magic blasted the Warriors 132.98. That was the magic Penny Shaq, Nick Anderson, all those. That was this fucking team.

Who's the other three-point shooter? Brian Shaw, Brian Shaw The shooter The skinnier Dennis Scott Dennis Scott was he there yet Dennis Scott yeah

He was there Brian Shaw Nick Anderson Nick Anderson and Dennis Scott Those are the two Yeah so Not great Most of Rosier's minutes came in garbage time

When they were already getting blown out by 32 and not wonderful here. Not only because his one shot from the field was blocked by backup center Anthony Avent or that he went 0 for two from the free throw line. Ouch. Jesus Christ. Rozier said,

that ain't the type of player I am. To put me in with the scrub lineup when the whole starting five is on the bench, that's like a slap in the face. I wasn't even into it. We were down 30, 40, whatever. I just really wanted to get up out of there. Yeah.

That is a... Get up out of here. What a terrible attitude. Holy shit. That's a slap in the face to put me in there. Fuck you. I just want to get up out of here, man. Yeah.

Rozier entered for five quality minutes late in the first quarter. So they put him in when it mattered. He gave up six points to Shaq, who ended up with 24. Dennis Scott canned six or seven three-pointers on the way to 32 points. Jesus. Golden State coach Bob Lanier, I guess they kept him around. Uh, wouldn't do Rosier the favor. Oh, no, this is the end of that year.

Wouldn't do Rosier the favor of letting him start in front of his mother, father, four-year-old son, and ten other relatives for whom he arranged tickets. Lanier said, it don't matter if he's playing near his hometown. I'm trying to give us the best shot at winning, not trying to impress his friends and family. If you ever seen Bob Rozier, or Bob Lanier, he looks like the toughest old black man. You've ever seen it? Like, he just beat the shit out of you. It looks like he's awesome.

Rozier's numbers were meek and humbling, aside from his six rebounds and one steal. Wow. Rozier said, I mean, it's been rocky. It's been up and down, but things will work out. All I have to do is adjust, and I will. What it takes in this league is confidence, and that's something that only can come by playing. Teammates see him different. Latrell Spreewell said he's banging and rebound him, blocking shots, and playing hard.

David Wood, a forward, said Coach Lanier is trying to impart wisdom. to him. When he listens, he improves. Rozier said, I listen too much. That's my problem. Right. Yeah. Wow. They said that Rosier should feel fortunate. The team's been injury ravaged. He wouldn't be playing at all had Ronnie Cycling up and out for 31 games. He's only in there for that.

The Warriors discovered, like every other team that Rosier has played for, that he likes to work at his own pace depending on the mood of his day. Depending on how he'd be. Just how he feels. Lately, he's improved his work habits. Lanier had to force him to get on the exercise bicycle. When Rozier showed up for training camp, he was so out of shape that he was getting outplayed by guys

who had no chance of making the team. Wow. Guys off the street. Now, Rozier is lithe and a trim 255. Trim to 655? He's 611. That is trim for 611. That's pretty fucking big.

Yeah, that's tall. Any less than that, and you're a skinny 6-11, you know. Rhetorically, Lanier hints that Rozier's work ethic has been sporadic. He said, quote, what do you do or what you do before and after practice to work on your game? What do you do to keep yourself in condition when you're not playing quality minutes all the time? Those are the things he has to work on all the time. In the last few weeks, he's done a nice job of trying to push himself in practices and some days off or he's done some extra work. Rosier says, my work ethic is great and that his reputation suffers from this bullshit.

He goes, this is the same shit they've said since high school. Yeah. Because, I mean, just because I've been doing it since high school doesn't mean you have to keep bringing the shit up. You know, fuck you. Guys are dicks. He said, I think I do more stuff before and after practice than anybody on this team. Nobody does more than me. I'm the hardest worker on this NBA team, are you?

With jack on it. Wow. No, this is, he's not a Oh, he's with the Hockeyndon. No, he's with Golden State. Oh, Shaq, they played against Orlando. Ronnie Seckley is playing with Golden State? Yeah, yeah, he went to, he went to Orlando after that, I think, right? I don't know where he went.

I just heard Ronnie Seikley. I was like, is he playing with those people? He's playing on Golden State now. So, yeah, he said, I don't think, I don't see anybody, I don't see where anybody could say that he doesn't put out. Two or three people have to box me out, stuff like that and practice and games. He thinks he's still the best, even though he's... Yeah.

They said he's shown flashes of promise with 12 double-digit double-figure rebounding games, six of those in the last 14 games. And a win over the Lakers, he had a season high 19 rebounds. He's put up seven double-double games in rebounding and scoring. He said, I'm focused on rebounding and scoring around the paint. Before, I just wanted to kind of fit in whatever the team needed. Now I'm trying to go to the boards and create some more shots. for the guys on the team and try not to let the centers beat us.

Yes. He blocked a shot by Charles Barkley late in the fourth quarter of the Warriors win against Phoenix two weeks ago. Lanier said he's had some tremendous games in terms of rebounding and critical shot blocking. We know that with time he'll be able to do that much more consciously or consistently versus the way he does it now. It's hard to say how far he's come because you don't know how far he has to go yet. Like most rookies, he's got a lot to learn. He makes a lot of mental mistakes out there. Lanier said he's just not confident in himself.

Most of free throw shooting is being confident in yourself. He's tried all kinds of things, one-handed. He's got the shack thing down where he's spooked already. Sometimes I watch Clifford Rozier in practice. He can make 20-foot jump shots on you all day. Then he'll get to the free throw line, and he might shoot a blank. When he starts thinking too much, he gets into trouble. He was also fined $250 for coming late to a shoot around in Milwaukee.

It's his second minor misconduct. He was also fined and suspended for missing a shoot around in New York. Now, his excuse for these two for missing one and for being late, quote, everybody's late. Things come up. They do. No, not in the only thing that comes up when you're in the NBA is your fucking game today or your practice today. That's it. He said that he hopes to play well in the next game. He said, just like when I was at Louisville, when we came to play in South Florida and Tampa, I always get hyped when I come back home to play. I'm always away. I remember some of the things I used to do when I was in Florida, like in high school at Southeast, and I kind of get those feelings when I come back. And he says he's got a second win heading into the last month. He said, we've been playing ball for five straight months. I was tired after the.

the first month. In December, I was like, damn, you fly here, you fly there, your body gets used to it. Okay. So he said, everybody on this team can play. We can beat anybody. We just lose all the time. All we have to do is come out and

want it, jump on them, and we'll beat a team to death. We go to Phoenix and beat him. We go to Seattle and beat him. We go to Detroit, the Lakers, all those teams that are tops in our division. Then we turn right around to lose to the clippers. How much does it suck to be the clippers? God damn it.

At that time, holy shit. Everybody's just kicking their ass. We go out and compete against the spurs. We compete against the Knicks getting just getting after it, scoring point after point, and then we get our ass kicked by the clippers. Then a bunch of fourth graders beat us in the playground.

Shit ain't right. This is wrong. Not fair. He's looking forward to. going back to Bradenton for a long summer vacation, and he said his homesickness is there. He said, the last five years of my life, I came home in the summer or on break. I look forward to being home a good three to four to five months. That's going to be a change.

He's going to be fat as fuck. Right under that, maybe some things he's coming home, too, we have here. The, wow, VIP, all new attractive staff. Shit, yeah. free relaxation demo private rooms. I wonder what that is. Yeah, I think they're going to jerk you off back there. All new attractive staff, always hiring.

It's in Bradenton, VIP. Show up sometime and find out what we mean. Find out exactly what's going on. Also, come get a free drink with coupon. Yeah. Limit one per person at the peekaboo lounge. Oh, I wonder what that is. I wonder what they have there.

Weird. And the ladies know you're a high roller when you walk in with that coupon from the newspaper. They really know at that point when you put a deck around here. Oh, yeah. They're going to be like, ooh, who's, who's Mr. Big Shot coming in the door with this clipped out fucking newspaper coupon? The monopoly guy is here. Ooh. Yeah, there he is. So this year, 6.8 points, 4.3 or 7.4 rebounds, like I said, here, here is an article here by Rick Bosich for WDRB Sports. He said, I remember talking to a Warriors assistant coach in the summer of 1995 at the end of Rozier's rookie season. He did not put up big numbers like Robinson Hill kid, but Rozier started 34 of 66 games and put up seven double doubles in the final three weeks of the season.

Very encouraging sign. The assistant coach loved that, but he did not love the way Rozier ended the season. The coach said that Rozier blew off the team's mandatory exit interview to discuss setting goals for the final. following season. Rozier said a locker room attendant or sent a locker room attendant to tell the coaching staff that he was headed back to the beach in Florida. If they wanted to talk

to him, they could call him or fly down for a Pena Colada. Come on down. Wow. For Pia colada. He's a rookie. You can't do that. That is dumb as shit. He makes $650,000 this year.

It's already gone. He spent $350,000 on a car and clothes. I got news for you. And the other half is taxes. Yeah. And your age. Taxes come due.

You're in trouble. You are broke, my friend. Wow. You're broke right now. That's it. That's it. The next year, 95, 96, the Warriors are 36 and 46. So this is under coach Rick Adelman, the new guy there.

And that's not great. 36th in the Pacific Division. Not good. This year, they picked up. John Barry and B.J. Armstrong. Very different lineup. Chris Gatling is still there. Andrew DeClerc, Bimbo Coles, Jerome Curseys on the team now. They got Joe Smith for Maryland, too.

They drafted him, number one overall, as a matter of fact, right? Yeah, but he didn't do very well at all in the NBA. I don't think he was a big star. No. Kevin Willis, they now have. They had a lot of hype going into that season with Joe Smith. Joe Smith, yeah, he played, yeah, I mean, yeah, he was okay for a minute, but he's not a number one draft pick, you know what I mean? That's tough. Now, the Courier Journal in Louisville has an article, U of L probing how Rosier got cars.

Oh, we're not even sure how he got these? Nope. The University of Louisville is looking into how Clifford Rozier obtained two late model cars he drove during his college career. We know how he got it. That's not good. They said that the former U of L basketball store, told the Courier Journal that both the school and the NCAA and CAA had already examined how he came to own the cars and they had approved of the arrangement. He said they looked into it as soon as I got came to school, they looked into everything.

However, the Louisville officials say that's not true at all. They had no idea about this shit. When the Courier Journal brought the cars to their attention, they said they had no records of an NCAA examination or of Rozier, owning any car. cars during the three years he attended to U of L. Oh shit. We didn't even know he owned anything. Nope. But Rozier said head coach Denny Crum not only knew he had a car, but used it as a disciplinary tool.

Do not throw me under this bus. That's right. He said, quote, every time I fucked up, Crum would call my mom and tell her to take away my car. God damn. The Courier Journal submitted written requests to Crum regarding Rosier's cars and Crum issued a

statement saying the university has asked that I not respond to the questions until the completion of their investigation. Oh, boy. Searches of Louisville Police and Florida motor vehicle records turned up two registered cars to Rozier, a 1991 Mazda MX6. I had an 88 MX6 in high school. MX6? That's what we're worried about?

Oh, I guess in college you can't have that. No, no, no. It was a nice looking little car. Yeah. It's a good, I don't know how the fuck he fit in it at 611. It's a small car. It's a Mazda 6. now. That's what it is. Dude, I drove

that motherfucker from New York to Phoenix and my were heartened. Hell yeah, with 150,000 miles on it. He purchased, that was purchased by Rozier from a Sarasota, Florida dealership on August 23rd, 1991, so it was brand fucking new, days before

he enrolled at U of L as a transfer from North Carolina. A 1991 Jeep Cherokee, those were expensive. Yeah? Purchased from a Bradenton, Florida dealership August 14th, 1993. about two weeks before the start of his junior year, Blue Book Value 21,000,

which is like a lot more now. That's 1994 or 1993 money. The Mazda was co-registered to Rozier and Dr. Robert E. Blackwood of Bradenton, Rozier's hometown. The Jeep was co-registered to Rozier and his mother, Diane Rozier. Rozier acknowledged owning both cars

and said they were given to him by Blackwood a family friend. I'm just a rich family friend who gives me brand new cars all the time. It's just a pal. No big deal. Wow. He said it was on the up and up.

People don't understand, but we're just close friends. I'm not sucking his dick or nothing. He knew that I was up at college without transportation, and he got me the car so I wouldn't have to take it from an agent. You know, so I wouldn't have to do it break the law. So I wouldn't have to take it from an agent. He said Blackwood, who declined comment, is not a U of L booster.

According to Rozier, Blackwood wanted me to go to Florida. Rosier said Blackwood bought the Jeep after he wrecked the Mazda. Jesus Christ. At the time of the purchase, the two cars were valued a total of more than $36,000,

but Rosier said Blackwood has never asked for reimbursement. He said, he won't let me pay him back because I do all kinds of things with his son. Wow. NCA rules forbid college athletes to receive gifts from anyone other than family members or, quote, established family friends, which can be a big gray area there.

Bob Oliver, director of NCAA legislative services, said financial arrangements are the key determining to determining whether a car constitutes an improper benefit. He said, if it's a car that's being paid for by a loan, who's paying the loan? Do his parents have the capability of paying for that car based on information that they can gather about the financial situation of the family? Is the car being laundered through the family from somebody? All those questions have to be asked. Then depending on the answers, that depends on what flags are raised.

That's how we get to where we're going. Yeah. They said the NCAA recently investigated a 1987 Accura legend given to Georgia Tech Guards, Stefan Marbury, by his amateur athletics union coach, AAU coach. The gift was approved after the NCAA determined the coach was indeed a longtime family friend. Oh, I'm sure. U of L began requiring athletes to register their cars with the athletic department last winter. It's been standard procedure at many schools for several years and became a requirement in the SEC at 91.

They said the NCAA does not require schools to register athletes' cars, but Oliver, the guy from there, said an institution is responsible for what its athletes are getting and who they're getting things from. U of L is looking into the financing of 10 other cars driven by six current and former basketball stars and their families. Wow. The school learned of those cars through the Courier Journal, which traced the ownership through lien filings, vehicle registrations, and traffic tickets. At least one of those cars was likely involved in a secondary registration. They show that Cornelius Holden, a center was cited for improper registration at 1.19 a.m., about three weeks after, his sophomore season ended, he was driving an 87 truck owned by assistant coach, Scooter McCrary. And NCAA rules say an institutional employee may not provide a student athlete with use of an automobile.

Not allowed to. So, yeah. So there you go. We're going to leave it there. He's in so much trouble. He doesn't even know it. He is just slippery slope and spending all his money, being lazy at practice, telling his team to fuck off. That's what I mean.

He's blowing it. He doesn't even know. He's not. And he's not good. He's like a, he's like an ugly girl who mounds off all the time. You know, like you're not hot enough to behave like this. He's not good enough. Someone's, someone's going to punch you in a bar.

Someone's going to snooky you in a bar. That's the problem. We're not saying we'd punch women, but that's, when you see that, you go, oh, someone's going to hit her. You just know it. You see it coming for you can sense it. Yeah. Oh. This guy is, life is about to punch him right in his ugly, mouty girl mouth.

Yep, he is, uh, not good. That's the thing. The next episode, oh boy, everybody, we'll, should get it done in two parts. And, uh, boy, does he start fucking up and saying some crazy shit a lot. We're going to get done in the left and a right? Oh, man. This is a huge table setter. The table is set with a Thanksgiving banquet right now, and next week we will dive in and eat that shit.

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