Crime in Sports - High On Life... And Cocaine - Quintin "Q" Dailey - Part 2

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

This week, we continue the story of a baskeball player, who had the world in his hands, only for him to throw up an airball. In this part, he starts a public war with his coaches, because he doesn't feel like he's being treated the same as Michael Jordan. He then goes back to drug rehab, gets out, and everything seems fine. He's a model citizen. Until he goes back into rehab, for his gigantic cocaine habit. He gets a second chance, with another team, and seems like it's all coming together. But we've seen that before!!   Be mad at your coaches because you're not Michael Jordan, head into drug rehab multiple times, and find a crazy way to almost name your daughter after yourself with Quintin Dailey - Part 2!!   Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!   Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman   Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com   Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!!   Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports [e-mail]

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And on top of all of that, you also get a shout out at the end of the show too. Jimmy, you'll fuck your name all up for you. Don't worry about that. So that said, Quentin Daly part two. everybody. Let's do it. January 29th, 1985, Chicago Tribune, here we go. The headline is, Daley takes shot at Bulls coaches.

What do you say? Because it's their fault that Michael Jordan's 100 times better than him at basketball. That's the problem. He said, I might be a tough guy, but I still have feelings. Oh. Oh, now he's going to feel sorry for Quentin now. That's amazing. Just because I rock don't mean I made a stone.

Come on now. This is hilarious. Controversy swirled up all over again. The moment Quentin Daley walked into the Bulls practice on Monday, he was 40 minutes late. The day everyone else was reacting to the stinging criticism, he leveled at the Bulls coaches in the Sunday's edition of the Daley Herald in Northwest. He ripped the coaches in the Sunday paper and then showed up late for fucking practice the next day. Can you imagine that? Super late.

Wow. It's one thing to say they suck, but then you show up late, which. Yeah. They've already ran wind sprints. Oh, people have full sweater. I mean, they're poor in sweat. The guys are coming out shammying still already. He's walking in and sweatpants still.

Wow. He said, quote, I might be the toughest guy in the world, but I still have feelings. There's times when I cry, and I'm not ashamed of it. Okay. He says he keeps things bottled up, but he let loose Sunday and just let out. It was his emotions got the best of him when he was talking. He said it all started the first day of camp. Now, I understand, I have tremendous, or now understand, I have tremendous respect for Michael Jordan.

Do you? That's his first line. Now, understand. Like, I get, he's. I'm going to say some disrespectful shit. Way better. He's a great athlete and a phenomenal basketball player. And I could care less how much pub the man gets because ultimately it's good for all of us.

But from the- Well, buckle up, because the next 20 years are going to be crazy. Yeah, well, next 20? He's still the top-selling shoe salesman on earth. The man wore a Hitler mustache and a goddamn commercial, and nobody said, nobody cared. That's how popular he is. He just rubbed a child's ass on TV. And he's still Michael Jordan.

It's wild. He said, but from the first day, the coaches, mainly Kevin Lockerty and assistant Fred Carter, have had three ways they treat people. One for Michael Jordan, one for Orlando Woolridge and Steve Johnson. Okay, that's two. And one for me and one for everyone else. Okay, well, that's four different things. So that's four.

That's four. Right away, your math is off. And then their families, and they have one for their kids. Yeah. Well, Michael Jordan is going to be the franchise, and they know that. So they're going to treat them a little bit different. And the face of the Lee. He's right from the start, he's more of a business partner than he is really a guy.

You know what I'm saying? That's number one. Orlando Woolridge is a little off. That's another thing. So you've got to kind of treat. He's like having Dennis Rodman on the team. Not quite, but Dennis Rodman, everybody had different rules for Dennis Rodman because he couldn't play in the league if you had regular rules for him. You let him do these rules and he'll get you 20 rebounds.

And that's all you need from him. So that's it. Did Woolridge play for the magic or pistons? He was, what, the Lakers before that? And then he got around after that. Yeah, he bounced around. I had several of his cards. I remember that.

And that's the problem. He bounced around because he's a guy you've got to kind of treat a certain way. He's not a real easy guy to deal with. And then one for everybody else. And that's the guys who are replaceable. That's the thing. You got Jordan, not replaceable. You treat him a certain way.

And you get Judd Bushler down at the end of the bench. Yeah, the guys who you can just get a free agent or a second round draft pick to replace on the bench. They get treated however they get treated. That's how sports work. You should see the comedy industry. Wow. If you want to see different treatment, check that. out. Go in a green room where there's a host of feature and a headliner.

Yeah. Watch the owner of the club stop by the green room and see how different people are treated. It's pretty funny. See if that host has even acknowledged. Yeah. See if he stands in the fucking corner by the bathroom like a jerk off while the owner reads a notebook. Nods to him.

Yeah. Hoping to impress him to maybe get another weekend in two weeks. Yep. That's where you're at, homie. You're the host by the bathroom right now. this fucking quitting here. He says Michael didn't ask for it, but he was their boy. And I was at the other end, the one who could do nothing right.

And that eventually got to me. Jordan's got great natural talent, but he's still learning the NBA game. But even when he'd take a messed up shot or throw a bad pass during the preseason, the coaches would be over clapping their hands and giving him encouragement and everything, which is fine because you shouldn't mess with a rookie's comment. confidence. Now, with me, it was the exact opposite. And you know, as well as anybody else that my job on offense is to put the ball on the hole from the outside. After everything I've been through, if I couldn't do that, I'd probably be managing a 7-Eleven somewhere. I don't think anyone would let you manage anything, first of all. You might run a register. But you've got to deal with, like, you know, inventory and shifts and paychecks and shit. Manager's complicated. I don't think you can pull that off. You can't pull off getting to practice on time. What are you talking about? Yeah, you're showing up 40 minutes away. You show up 40 minutes late at 7-Eleven.

You're fired. That's it. It's over. They got another guy already. That's it. Yeah, they had to to keep the store open. There's one guy there, so. He already filled out his W-2.

Yeah, you're gone. He said, but when I missed my shot during camp, they were all over me. Because you're not a rookie. Right. It's all so different. If you have a first-round draft pick that's a rookie and you're trying, your rookie year, I bet they did. I bet they kissed your little balls.

Probably. You know, so I don't get it. He claims the coaches blame him for early season losses to the bucks, criticizing shot selection and him being overweight. Well, is Michael Jordan fat right now? Probably not. No, he's, matter of fact, the skinniest he's ever been. You show up late and out of shape, and you want people to kiss your ass?

I don't know. Fucking do some sit-ups and show up on time and get some, you know, I don't understand what he's talking about. If you showed up on time, you wouldn't be overweight. That's the thing. And I get that it's, he's a rookie, so you can't, you can't project Michael Jordan's career on right now. That wouldn't be like fair, I guess, to, it only took what Quentin's saying. But no, within three years, it's pretty obvious. He's the guy.

Yeah. I mean, it's a him and fucking magic and bird are the league. Pretty amazing what he did. It's the three of them. I mean, Wilkins comes up and he's real exciting and shit. But it's Jordan. It's the guy. He's the guy.

And really, that whole generation of like 10 years that his first, Jordan's first 10 years had, wow, a stockpile of incredible fucking talent. He's the most amazing athlete you've ever seen back then as far as like he could just hang in the hang time shit. He just would float there. And he was playing against Larry Nance. And a guy would start coming down and he'd still be hanging there. He'd still be going up. That's the, like, holy shit. How is Larry Nance coming?

down already. Yeah, and it was when he did it, the times he did it. He's a fucking assassin, so that was that thing. By the way, the shocking level of talent back then. I mean, I watched the NBA today, and it's the level of talent

is entirely different. And the guys today, there are more skilled players today. There are more, that's what I don't get is they could play such a better game because the guys are more skilled. They just are, because they start when they're three going to basketball camps and shit.

Back then it was a bunch of playground guys and things like that. You know, you played organized sports and a lot of those guys played other sports growing up too. They weren't just concentrating on basketball. So, yeah, they have more developed skills, which should be in a better game, not just a lot of 30-foot jump shots, which is what we end up with. Well, it's also like that's more of the style, not really the players. I hate saying back then, that makes me feel so old.

And I realize, 45. You are old. As we say, we're old, that's why. Period. It's just interesting that every team had several really great players. And so several really great players could carry them to the, and every year you'd have the, usually the same eight on either side, east and west, but you'd have a couple sneak in that would be different on the east or the west.

Totally. Orlando would make the playoffs. The bucks would wildly make the playoffs. And that's every goddamn league is the same way. Look at the NFL. You know who's going to fucking be there. That might be the wonkiest of all of them. But of the other leagues, you know who's going to be good in the first month of the season.

And you're like, okay, that's that. They're going to be there. And, you know, the fucking Dodgers are good every year. And this one, you'll get a surprise. And Kansas City will come up one year. And, you know, Pittsburgh will have a good year or whatever. But, you know, it's just one of those things. So fun, though.

It's just different because I don't like how people now, like, act like, they act like because there was three guys at the end of the bench back then that were basically fucking goons because it was a different game. You had to have guys who could go in and have fouls for Shaq. Like you had to. That was part of the game back then, whereas you don't need that now. Joe Klein's and your guys

like that whose job was literally getting Shaq's way for a minute or getting that center, getting Elajuan's way. Draw three fouls and then get your ass back on the bench. That's it. The guy that got face fucked by Shaq at the Lakers. New people,

They act like a guy who got face fuck. I know who you're talking about. Oh, Dudley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they act like all the guys back then were that. And it's like, no, that's not. I saw a video the other day where they're like, Blake Griffin's by far the best in-game dunker of all time.

And I'm like, has anybody not seen a Dominique Wilkins highlight reel? Or a Sean Kemp, early 90s highlight. Stacey Ogman. Watch Sean Kemp fucking dunk on people. It's crazy. Dominique Wilkins had dunks that were like, look like the rim was going to fucking come. down and not because he's 300 pounds hanging on it because he smashed into it so goddamn hard.

I mean, he was killing people. David Robinson had excellent dunks. Julius Irving, for Christ's sake, floated around and what are we talking about? So, I don't know, whatever. It's all different areas. People always think that shit. That's a young person. That's what that is.

And I think it's also, too, it's every league is like that. They say that about the NFL too. Well, it's like, okay. Yeah, there was a couple guys back then who probably couldn't play now, but you don't think Lawrence Taylor could come on and come and play right now. You don't think Barry Sanders could dominate the league right now. You might want to do it right now anyway. Jesus Christ, they probably get thrown out of the league in three games for injuring somebody.

You know, now you can't tackle like that. Yeah, you get sued. But like guys like, you know, you're Barry Sanders. You're even back further. Jim Brown will fuck people up now. Just like he did then. Gail Sares. You know, fastest shit is fast as shit.

Chris Carter, just fucking 10 years ago, 15 years ago. Jesus. Christ, 20. 20. He was retired by the 2005. I want to die right now. That is crazy. So, anyway, he goes on to say, well, two days later, talking about the box, he said, well, two days later, we got the Monday night game at home against Milwaukee again at the shoot around at Angel Guardian that morning.

They're still over there, Lockery and Carter yelling at me about taking crazy shots. Lockerty and Carter, did that? These guys think I didn't have a TV set when I was a kid. They were two of the worst shot selection people to ever put on a uniform. And they'd throw the ball up from anywhere. And now they're telling me not to take crazy shots. Yeah, the same way their coaches were saying, stop taking crazy fucking shots back then.

Yeah. Same thing happened probably. That's very funny, though. That is very funny. I mean, that Walton's kid coaches now. Are people going to tell him, shut the fuck up? Don't coach me. I've watched you play. That's what I mean. You can't do that.

You can't have a baseball manager and be like, you have a 232 lifetime average. Don't tell me. That doesn't matter. My job is to tell you how to hit. Not for me to hit, motherfucker. Yeah, I'm done hitting. Otherwise, the only coaches would be all-time Hall of Fame greats, and they don't usually like to coach. And they're not doing this because they made enough money to not be here.

Yeah. And it pisses them off otherwise. Larry Bird, it looked like he was going to have a stroke every game when he was coaching. He was just like, why can't you just do it the way, you son of a bitch is. Just do it correctly. I could do it. Do what I tell you to do. Yeah.

So anyway, he said that Quentin said he went home and began brooding and watching cartoons and videos. That's what I do when I brood. And I turn into a child. Yeah, I watched cartoon, 1985 cartoons. I put some He-Man on and I fucking really zone in. It's a little Tom and Jerry. Get a little G.I. Joe going and I'm locked in. It's good.

So that's what he did. That was when he decided to take a stand. Jerry inspired him to take a stand against that big cat. He said he would intentionally skip the game that night. He stayed in his apartment, turned on the phone answering machine, and watched television all night. Okay. And you're like, you're wondering why your coaches are hard on you. Yeah, you're literally distancing yourself from everything, putting a television and a answering machine between you and the world.

You're no call, no showing. Again, at 7-Eleven, fired. New guy is already here. Gone. Yeah, don't bother coming back. We switched to the locks, man. Wow. He said, well, the next morning, I'm down in Rod Thorne's office, the general manager,

and he's telling me what a troublemaker I am and how no team in the league would touch me. So I just said, fine, then release me and let me go out and make my own deal. Yeah. Well, he's never going to do that because he can't afford to do that because he gambled on me when I came to town. and if I mess up, he screwed up. You know, because I'm his pick. So, you know, if he gets rid of me, he's admitting that he's an asshole. So Daley said Monday that most of that is behind him and that the coaching staff, quote, is a good one and I still respect them.

But I don't need the yelling. Okay. Don't need the yelling. He said, there have been other times I've been to practice and I missed the flight to Indianapolis. They have a legitimate quarrel about that. Many of the reasons why things are going bad, I cause them myself. There you go. But they go on to say, one of Daly's biggest problems is handling Jordan's success.

Daly was seemingly happier for the last two years when he was the Bull's main man in Chicago was a loser. And then this season when Jordan is the star and the team is winning. Right. Yeah, he'd rather lose and be the guy. Be the man. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he said, I'm a player who likes to shine a little bit myself.

Okay, well, you got, you're the sixth man. You can still shine. That guy gets the spotlight, right? Yeah. I mean, you can, honestly, you can come off the bench and really have a, without the pressure like that. Like, people like, people love the sixth man. That's everybody's favorite.

Trump made a fucking career out of it. If you look at, like, a basketball team will have their main star. And then everybody's second favorite player and sometimes favorite player is the sixth man. It's because he's the underdog. Right. People love the backup quarterback. Yeah. They have this fantasy that this thing that they don't see would be better than the thing that's on the field.

When there's a reason why the person on the field's on the field and the person on the bench is on the bench. And sometimes it's better than that because you got your starting lineup. And when your one guy gets tired in the starting lineup, you got a guy that's just as good as him that just gets to come off with fresh legs. Yeah. And all of a sudden our team is that much better. Exactly. And they can honestly, they can get a little more attention that way, honestly. then blending into the starting lineup.

I don't know who this. You know what? It may have been, no, it wouldn't have been Reggie. Was Reggie a small forward or a shooting guard? Miller. Miller? When Shrempe was there. Trump was a three, right?

He was playing three. He played two. Reggie sometimes, too, though. Shrempe was like a three. He was a forward, shrimp. Yeah. Okay. So that's why he would have been six then,

because he would have Reggie there. You could run a taller lineup and throw him in a shooting guard. Now, all of a sudden, you got two guys that can bomb threes. Yeah, exactly. That's why Indianapolis won so much. Yeah, well then he went to Seattle. Yeah, yeah. But he was fucking amazing in Indianapolis.

Yeah, yeah. So he said, I like to win, but you want to do well when you win. I was hoping to we win, but I've got personal goals too. I want to win, play well, and smile like everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. Why can't I have hair and money and he have nothing? That's the George Senior as a development moment.

That's it. Yeah. Why can't I have hair and money? So now the coach believes that Daly's outburst is typical of a player having a bad year. He said, this is the coach, players are vulnerable when they're having a bad year. If he can tell you I have a special standing for Steve Johnson when I've been on him more than anyone else on the team, I don't know. No, I don't have a double standard. He said also, this won't upset the team, but being constantly late for practice is more disruptive than anything else.

The problem is we can't find him enough. The league says the maximum we can find him for being late for practices, $250. Which he said with the salary these guys make, that doesn't put a debt into it. So what are you going to do? And that's the problem, too, is that that is true, too, because that's negotiated with the unions as far as what you're allowed to find for certain infractions. They say dailies, and you just don't expect a guy to keep fucking doing this because it's the NBA, you know? This is your job. This is your goddamn job.

Yeah. He said, Daly's life has been one of tragedy and trouble. This is the article. Seven years ago, his parents died, that we know here. He said, quote, when you get burned and burned, you start to lose your feelings. They say you get cold. You turn to stone. I've been wounded so much.

I'm almost immune. There he goes. Almost immune. That's a good one. I like that a lot. He's almost immune. So there he is. Pissed off, obviously.

having a good time because they're winning and Michael Jordan's getting all the credit. So January 30th, 1989, here he is again, double standard, he says. Double standard. A feud continues to simmer between the Chicago Bulls Guard and his head coach with the player charging the coach with setting a double standard with him compared to other players. So now there's not three or four, really, that he described. Now it's just two. Quentin's rules and everyone else now.

Yeah, right. Yeah, Daly reported 30 minutes late to Monday's practice after he criticized them, which we talked about. Coach Lockery said, I know a few things have been bothering Quentin. I talked to him last week about it. That kind of off-the-court stuff bothers a lot of players. This game is so mental, so much mental. There's always going to be a concern whether a player is consistently late for things like he has been. And he said also, oh, this is Quentin Daley.

quote, everybody's concerned with Quinton Daly the basketball player. No one's concerned about Quentin Daly, the person. The people. I'm a people, God, damn it. You're at work, motherfucker. And this is the 80s. You're at work in 1985. If you were at work at any job in 1985, they go, fuck them, we're paying you.

Go do your job. That's it. That's the end of it. Be who you are here. Yeah. No one steps in and says, hey, are you all right? Or, hey, have you been? That's because you have enough money to get a therapist.

to fucking ask you if you're a grown-up. And it's your job to show up prepared. Get a therapist to ask you if you're all right. I don't understand it. Which still exists today of like a million people would kill for the position that you're in. That's what I mean. You got to be prepared for this now, man. Absolutely.

You got to be the guy. Your job is to outside. Look at fucking guy. I don't care whether you love him or hate him or whatever. But LeBron James spends about fucking $3 million a year on conditioning and food. Yeah. That's to show up in shape to, be able to run around in your 41 years old.

So that's your job is to prepare off the court to be on the court. So if that means you go to a therapist and they make you feel good in the head and then you show up at the place feeling good, that's your job then, whatever it is. It teaches you how to disconnect and use your self-esteem as the buffer in times of need. Like he obviously has the need for it. Had he gotten this shit together, being a sixth man and coming in to have a great career. Holy fuck, the Bulls would have won before. they won. That's what I mean. They could have used him in that capacity. But this is, I don't know

how you can, you can, how you can not show up prepared. Yeah. And expect success. And I'll, again, I'll liken it to comedy. It would be the same thing. If you show up and you have something going on in your life and you go up and you suck, you're not getting booked again. That's it. That's life at that point. Another show. The manager's not going to come in and go, hey, you're all right tonight? You okay? What happened? She have an off one tonight? How are you feeling? No, not even about the state. How are you?

How's, never mind comic, Jimmy. How's Jimmy Wiseman? How's Jimmy as a person? Have you ever had anybody ask you that in comedy? Ever had anybody ask you that. Never. Fuck no. It's your job.

And we're friends with the, you know what I mean? The management were pals. It doesn't matter. I just did a road trip with one and watched him meet bull testicles. Never once asked me, how's Jimmy, doing. No. Doesn't matter.

Expects you're okay because you're here. Yeah. So there you go. You showed up. Do your fucking job. That's it. So, yeah, he says, no one asks, hey, are you all right or how have you been? I do have respect for this coaching staff, but I don't need the yelling.

He said that again. He explained being late for practice was simply a case of be oversleeping. Oh. He said, that's legit. I have three alarm clocks that didn't work. Man, fuck you. If you can't set them all. p.m. One out of the three

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to car gurus.com to make sure your big deal is the best deal. That's C-A-R-G-U-S.com. Carguerues.com. Now back to the show. Good God. He said also that he slams the coaching staff for

saying that he's constantly telling him that he's overweight and worthless. Oh. Well, you're not really having much worth of the team. The coach said the statements were not disruptive to the team, but if anything, it's only been disruptive to one person. Quentin Daly. That's it. Fucking yourself, dude.

Everybody else keeps going and you're just standing here complaining. February 10, 1985, Fort Worth Star Telegram, Chicago's Quentin Daly has insisted all season that the Bulls, particularly coach Kevin Lockerty and assistant Fred Carter, have said he is overweight and useless. consistently said it. Quote, the coaching staff is always getting on me for taking crazy shots. So yeah, he's talking about that again.

He said, the coaches are concerned with Quentin Daly, the basketball player, not with Quentin Daly, the person. I know what's best for Quentin Daly. I know what I'm doing.

Well, then, ask you. That's it. That's it. And he said, nope, I know what I'm doing, God damn it. The general manager, Rod Thorne,

called his comments, pure hogwash and totally unfound. He said, this organization is bent over backwards to accommodate Quentin more than any other player we've ever had here. Yeah. Yeah, they've sent him off to therapy. They sent him to fucking rehab a couple of times. Like, they've done a lot with him so far to coddle him.

I mean, he was MIA for games in his rookie year for Christa. How often does that happen? Where did hogwash come from? I don't know. I guess it's like, I guess it's like bullshit. Yeah, it means. nonsense. I don't know the meaning, but I mean, bullshit is like this gross.

Yeah. The wash of their sty, I would think, with all their shit in it. Yeah. It'd be like pig shit almost, basically. But, I mean, hog wash, I would imagine is the, when you, the runoff from when you clean them, right? That's what I'm thinking. There'd be shit everywhere, I would imagine. Maybe it's like, you know what I mean?

Do you clean hogs? You got to hose them off once in a while, right? You know, like a... Do you bathe the hog? I think they're like an old. car you have around. Just, you know, oh, wow, it's really getting dirty. You don't want it to rust, so you've got to spray up underneath it, you know?

I'd be fucking livid if I washed a hog and then turned around and he's wallowing in the mud. That's the other thing. I don't know how much you'd wash a hog because they insist on living in shit and... Maybe the hogwash being the mud and the muck,

meaning that's the hog wash. It's... Yeah. Say if you sprayed out their side, you all that shit. Not even that. It's them rolling in the mud. It's hogwash.

It's like pig shit. It's hogwash. That's their way of washing. Yeah. Which is not a real way of washing. Not at all. It's nonsense. It's a useless thing to do because you're washing yourself and shit.

Well, explain why bullshit means what it means then, because that makes no sense. Because I agree with you what they're saying there. I'm just saying now that that confuses me with bullshit because then what's that about? The bullshit is. That's real. Bullshit's real. That's a big pile of shit. I know that exists.

You step in it. You know that is not fiction. So, you know what I mean? How does that work? I'm 100% on board with what you just said. That makes sense, right? But yeah, then where does bullshit come from? He's sitting over here feeding me a line of bullshit.

And horse shit, too, for the same. Yeah, it's the same thing. Same thing. You don't want to be fed that, right? And horse shit can be like garbage or it can be like not true. You can use that. both way. Like in like in baseball, somebody will be, it'll suck.

And the other guys are like, oh, he's horseshit. That's a big term for not being a good baseball player. It's horseshit. Well, there's also sitting around at the bar bullshitting. What is that? Yeah, that's what I mean. It's all very confusing. English is a fucked up language.

It's crazy. When people come here and they don't have all the slang, be nice because holy shit. Imagine trying to figure this out all at once. It is funny to hear them not know. I would love to hear a tiny foreign person go, the shit that you speak of, okay, so there is the, there's the worst shit.

And the bullshit like not true. But then you have the, I, with you, we have the talk and we have the bullshit. So does that mean all this is not true? Are you liar to me? You lied to me? Are you liar to me for bullshit or are we, I don't, and you would not.

not be able to explain it either. That would be the thing. We'd be like, I don't know. I guess, I guess bullshitting is meaning like it's just time waste and it's useless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can bullshit your way through something. You could be bullshit could be not true. Yeah.

We use bullshit like Smurf. Like it's like a universal fucking word. We just stick it into anything to be bullshit. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So anyway, there you go. Now, March 5th, 1985.

Yeah. A month and a half go by here. Daley threatens to quit the Bulls if lockery stays. Oh, if the coach sticks around, I'm leaving. I quit. Yeah. Daley, suspended for two games by the Bulls for violating team rules, has threatened to quit the team over his squabbles with the coach.

The Chicago Sun-Times has reported. He said, quote- That I play like dog shit. And I'm fat, too. Oh, and there's dog shit. And then there's dog shit. Which is kind of like small potatoes, dog shit. shit.

Yeah. Bullshit is substantial. Dog shit's kind of like, yeah, you're like dog shit. Yeah. And you are as horse shits, got a little more gravitas to it as well. On the scale of shit that we've just discovered. Dog shit, horse shit, bullshit, I believe is the scale it drives up. Americans are fascinated with animals shit.

Absolutely. And then you're full of shit on top of it. It is. Full of what kind of shit? That makes a difference. sand bowl. Makes a big difference to know what kind of shit you're full of, to know what you're trying to pull off here. Is that a pig shit?

Well, you're happier than a pig in it. A pig in shit, but that's happier. That makes sense. Pigs are happy and shit and you're happier than that. So you're really happy. So that makes perfect sense to me. That's the proper use of that. Yeah.

All right. So Quentin said, if he stays, I'm gone. I'm tired of the personal vendetta part of it. You can see it. I'm not going to be Kevin Lockery Jr. here. I'm Quentin Daly. Oh. I'm not going to let him adopt me, I think.

He doesn't get to name me. God. Does he mean he's not going to play shitty like him and then end up being a coach? He's not going to do what he tells me to do like I'm his kid, is what I think it is. Because he was bad anyway. Yeah. Daly's agent, this guy, Bob Wolf, still the same guy, who's really earned his 10%. Let me tell you, because this guy has had to make a lot of public statement.

about Quentin's fucking up. He said that his client has no intention of leaving the team. He said, I think the matter has been resolved. Has it? Oh, okay. So we fixed it. Well, it's all fixed now.

On Sunday, the Bulls suspended daily for two games for disregarding team rules. He missed Sunday's 117 to 113 lost to New Jersey and will miss tonight's game against Washington. He's missed practices and team planes often during his two and a half year career. In the past week, he was late for a game against Cleveland and late for a practice.

practice. Dude. Late for the game? Nowadays, the first time he would have been late for a practice, the team would have assigned him a person that goes to get him and bring him there. Like literally, they were not doing that. That's it. They don't even let the guys have enough leeway to fuck up now.

You're not fucking up. You're too expensive. He missed another practice Saturday. Holy Christ. That's two practices and a game. He's late for in a week. saying his girlfriend had been in an auto accident. Okay, are you a tow truck driver now?

What the fuck do you have to be? Are you her insurance agent? You're going to be if you don't fucking show up. I had to show up. They wouldn't hire him as that. He'd be late to accidents and shit. They'd be all cleaned up and he'd show up with a camera going, where is it? I see broken glass on the ground.

That's all I got. Yeah, he's about to be an adjuster if he's not careful. Oh, shit. He also publicly expressed his dissatisfaction with his sixth man role. You want to be the start? you think you should start over Michael fucking Jordan. You don't get to do that. Behind a starting lineup headed by the team's leading score,

rookie Michael Jordan. You're not going to start over him. Bull's general manager said, quote, after announcing the suspension, said, who does he think he is? Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, which is a great line. Oh, my God. The elder statesman who's like a four-time MVP and won titles.

Is that who he thinks he is? Who fuck's he think he is? Does he mean Michael Jordan or himself? He means, does Quentin think he's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Oh, he's talking about, okay, God. You're like, you can throw his weight around or something. Like, you're not, how many MVP awards you have, asshole? You can't show up on time to the game.

Yeah. I thought that was Quentin talking about Michael Jordan. No, no, no. Give it a little bit. Yeah. He's about, Kareem stopped being mentioned for a few years when Jordan was crushing. That was also when Kareem was on his down swing.

and, you know, he was fucking 38 years old at that point. Yeah, magic was the guy. Yeah, as soon as Corrine left the league, too, they didn't talk about him for a while. No, he had a great farewell tour that year. He retired. I remember watching those games, and they'd give him rocking chairs and shit, and he'd wave to the crowd and all that crap.

And he hated people, sir. That's a thing they do when you retire in sports day. When you have one of those things, the teams all give you rocking chairs. Oh, really? You never seen that before? No. When Mariana Rivera retired, I remember, the Red Sox made him like this fucking, I think it was the Red Sox made him like this fucking rocking chair made out of broken bats from the games because he's a, his whole thing is breaking bats. Because he had that cutter that would cut in on you and break your fuck saw your bat off.

So they made him like a big rocking chair thrown of broken bats. That's badass. Look that up, Mariana Rivera, broken bat thing. It's cool as fuck. Do they leave that in the stadium and he gets to sit in that when he's, He just, it's his seat, it's in only his seat. Then he's going to ship that home. That's like we got that bourbon.

Somebody gave us some nice bourbon. We're like, how the fuck are we going to get this home? We had to have the venue ship it. We're like, we can't fit this in our suitcases. It's a case of bourbon for Christy. Yeah. How did he get that home? Oh, wow, that is cool as shit.

That cool? Yeah. Oh, wow, it's all kinds of different colors. They didn't like. That's all the nuts. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, it's just. You didn't finish it or anything?

It's just original. It's a collage of, of your. Your work. Look what you've done. So badass. Pretty cool. Okay. So who does he think he is?

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Back when the NBA was young, players rarely got suspended. But now it's 1985. And since the great players like Jabbar never get out of line, I wonder by what right he thinks he can do whatever he wants and escape punishment. Yeah. You are a mediocre player. And you are. Yeah.

You can't do this. You can't do this. This is like, I mean, I can't really. think of somebody that tried to pull this bullshit that was like a not a good player. That's what I mean. Because you're gone quickly. Yeah. You don't get other chances when you're not a good player.

There's plenty of not great players. Yeah. You know, when LaTrell Spreewell chokes his coach, that guy averaged 25 a fucking game. So, you know, what? We've got to get him back in here. Someone's going to sign him. Yeah, but when Johnny Mansell goes and does a bunch of Coke, you get cut, motherfucker. You have more interceptions and touchdowns.

So, bye, asshole. Yeah. LaTrell's a great defender. We got to have him. You know, he was a great defensive player. Another guy, the in-game dunks were insane. He was great, yeah. So anyway, the Daly's the Bull's third leading score with 16.6 points a game.

So that's good. Work on that and shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? March 24, 1985, a week later. Bulls prognosis on Daley, guarded. Okay. He might be getting shit-canned here. They say the Bulls had.

thought they had rid themselves of the troubled spot at guard last year, dealing Reggie Theist to the Kansas City Kings. Then a popular player with the fans was at odds with the coach, Kevin Lockery again. The end result was Theist left for Kansas City and the Bulls thought harmony was theirs. But this season, the Theist controversy has given way to the Daly controversy. Uh-oh. Quentin Daley, the talented but volatile guard from San Francisco, that's a good way to put him, uh, had mispractices in games.

He was outspokenly critical of lockery and bulls management. Frustrated, the Bulls finally suspended Daly earlier this month for two games. But whether Daly follows the same route as Theus remains doubtful. The high-scoring guard could be traded, but the Bulls suddenly find themselves in a fight for a playoff spot, even though Michael Jordan has come out of college to become the premier rookie, even as, I'm sorry, the premier rookie in the NBA. The general manager here, Thorne, says, I think we've bent over backwards. to be fair to Quentin Daly.

I think the time has come when we said enough was enough. This is not good. Thorne is anxious to deal Daly for two reasons. Getting rid of Daly would leave the club, or isn't anxious to deal him for two reasons. Getting rid of Daly would leave the club precariously thin at guard. Secondly, Daly's troubles on and off the court have severely diminished his market value,

much the same as Theus last year. He said, you know, he's already he said, if the coach is here next year, I won't be. So anyway, Lockery says, he says there's a double standard. Well, maybe there is. We've certainly looked the other way enough. So I think the double standard is we've actually looked the other way more, he said. Denny Thorne said about his excuses for being late and shit.

He said, his excuses may be legitimate, but what he has to understand is that if he's going to be late or mispractice, he has to explain it and tell us ahead of time. He can't not show up and then tell you. Can't just be astray. No. This is the opposite of the it's better to ask forgiveness than permission. This is no, the opposite. They need to know where you are. 100% permission. You need the permission. Don't even ask, just be on time.

Beyond fucking, you don't hear everybody else having these fucking problems. It's crazy. Thorne added that he was tired of having to hear Daly blame others. He said, first it was Reggie Theus's playing time, then it was Coach Lockery, and then it was Michael Jordan. It's always something new. It's never his fault, basically. The impact of Daly's troubles may have been a contributing factor to the team's decline in the second half of the season. After starting fast with Jordan slam dunking his way to the Bulls fans' hearts, the club reverted back to last year's dismal performance that saw them again miss the playoffs.

He said, I think we all understand that there are rules that everyone has to live by. As the Bulls forward David Greenwood said, he said everyone is subject to them and there can't be any exceptions. So they say Daly's likely to stay with the club for the rest of the year. His presence helped take the pressure off Jordan and prevents clubs from doubling and tripling up on Jordan. Yeah. So they're in a tough spot here. They said Daly ranked third in the NBA among the league's sixth men behind only Kevin McHale and Clyde Drexler, who was new too. So those are big stars later on.

He had averaged just less than 17 points a game and his scorn. scored 20 or more points 21 times. Thorne said there's no question that Quentin has tremendous talents and is one of the best guards in the league. We just, he's saying that to get his trade value back up. Look, he's a great player. We just want everyone directed toward our goal of making the playoffs. Obviously, we need him, and we want all of this.

All we want is for this not to sidetrack us and what has been a good season for us. Okay. This is March 26, 1985 from the Kenosha News. It was his back that was injured, not his appetite, quote unquote. A true story, honest, it says here from the Los Angeles Times originally, I guess. Last Wednesday night when the Chicago Bulls played San Antonio at the Hemisphere Arena in San Antonio, Guard Quentin Daly of the Bulls played the first half despite nagging back spasms. The pain became intense at halftime and Daly put.

put on his sweats and sat at the end of the bench for the second half. During the timeout, midway through the third quarter, a ball boy approached Mark Vancell of the Chicago Sun Times at the press table. The ball boy said that Mr. Daly wanted to borrow $5. Okay. Curious, Vancell looked to the end of the bench and sure enough, Daly was waving his arms, nodding his head like, yeah, listen to him. Yes, $5, please.

$5.00. So Vancell forked over. a $5 bill, which was relayed to Daly. You know where this is going, don't you? No. Moments later, Daly called over a vendor and ordered a basket of nachos, a slice of pizza, and a bag of popcorn and a soda. That's

a lot for $5.5. Five bucks? They get an employee discount maybe on that? That's crazy. You can't get one of those things at the stadium for $5 now. Shit, no. Daily polished off the food before the next time out.

Holy shit. It isn't known though whether writer Vancell was paid back or whether Vancell was paid back. Okay, so that year 84, 85, 75, 79 games played, starts zero. Did he get in trouble for that?

Eating on the bench? That's crazy. At least he came to the game on time. I think that's, I think there's really a sliding scale with him. He can get away with dumb shit like this. Daly is drinking a Coke and what else did he get? A hot dog? Popcorn, nachos, and pizza. Popcorn.

nachos pizza. He had a full tray in front of him. That's like a full, you know, you're trying not to drop that if you're carrying it back. You know what I'm saying? A fucking Coke stuck in the drink holder of that styrofoam. They're not styrofoam that recycled thing that they give you. Yeah. And try not to spill that cheese on you.

You got cheese. There's fucking popcorn falling all over the place. That's unbelievable. So this year, 16 points a game. And, you know, just two and a half rebounds. Two and a half assists. Not bad, but, you know, not great either here. He made $410,000 that year.

Okay. Okay. June 6, 85 from the Chicago Tribune. In another Bulls development, Los Angeles Clippers personnel director, John Olive, confirmed that officials of the club recently met with Bulls Guard, Quinton Daly, who's believed to be on the trading block. Oh, he might be going to the Clippers, huh? He said, obviously, with someone that talented,

it's important for our organization to get to know Quentin Daly. I want to see if he's an asshole or not because he sure sounds like it in the papers. I don't know that I want to be looked at positively by the Clippers. In the 80s? They're about to be the worst team in the NBA for 20 years. It's not going to get any better for a long time. Not going to get any better until Chris Paul shows up probably. They're going to have to wait for Blake Griffin and his in-game dunks.

No, she's his best in-game dunk. They said, we haven't come to any conclusion about the interview. He said, athletically, there's no question Quentin Daly can help any team in the NBA. He has tremendous talent. So everything beyond that, basically, is his fault is the way I'm looking at it. Because they look at him like, he can play. So if he's just not a complete asshole, everyone in the league would want him. Right.

You know, because he's instant points. He's a microwave. He said, to talk about a trade with the Bulls is very premature. I know they need help inside, but the front line is our weakest area. So in other words, we don't really have forwards or centers to give them. The Clippers have the third pick in the June 18th draft and will select either six-foot-nine-inch Wehaw-N-Tisdale or seven-foot-center Benoit Benjamin or Benoit Bunjaman, as he's known in the adult film industry there. That wayman pick is wonderful. The wayman's a great player, yeah.

It was great on the suns, liked him a lot of the sons. If the Clippers land Benjamin, it could allow them to use seven-foot-two. Center James Donaldson in a deal for Daley. Daly has parted ways with his agent attorney Bob Wolf. Oh, my God. Like, this guy has held it together with scotch tape and crazy glue for the last three years, and you're going to fire this fucking guy. It's his fault.

Wow. He is now represented by Eloise Saperstein, the daughter of Harlem Globetrotters, founder Abe Sapperstine. Oh. He's the guy who ran the Globetrotters there. 85, 86 Bulls. He's still there. New coach, though. Stan Allbeck comes in.

They do get rid of lockery because it didn't win, so it doesn't matter. This year, they go 30 and 52, which is not good at all, but somehow that's a playoff berth. How do you lose 52? How the fuck do you lose 52 games and be in the playoffs? Usually like the 500. There's usually a couple 500 teams in the eight seeds or whatever, but 50 and 30 and 52? Holy shit. That's unbelievable.

They got swept by the Celtics in the first round. As you will. And that's, it's funny because, like, people, there's a lot of people, like I said, that, like, try to rewrite history and the people, like, hate Jordan. And by the way, no one hated Michael Jordan more than me when he was playing. But I can look back and go, fuck that guy was good. I hated everybody in the East. I just hated him.

I was a Knicks fan, hated him. And I was a son's fan, too. So that didn't help either. Doesn't help. Yeah. So to say that, because they'll bring up this playoff series in 86, and they'll be like, I think this was the game. I think Jordan had 63 during one of these games in the playoffs.

And they're like, yeah, you could score 63, but the team couldn't win. He couldn't make his team win. They won 30 games. It was his second year. Yeah, you were up against a dynasty team that came off one of the most dominant NBA seasons of all time the year before. And rolling right into the next dynasty team that's across. that goddamn lake, it's not going to be easy for him for a while. You're not going to beat these

guys with the roster they have. And they're with Orlando Woolridge. Here's their roster. Orlando Woolridge, Kyle Macy, Sydney Green, Gene Banks, Dave Corzine, George Gervyn, who's 33 at this point. The Iceman isn't exactly, you know, the Iceman anymore. He's not anymore. Yeah. Yeah, Jordan, Juan Oldham, Charles Oakley, as a rookie, I believe. Yeah. John Paxson, Quentin Daly, Michael Holden, uh, Rod Higgins, Tony Brown, Mike Smrek, Billy, Billy McKinney and Ron Brewer. They're going to beat the Celtics. S-M-R-E-K? You got it.

Smreck. One letter away from Shrek. Yep. Smrek sounds more like an ogre. It sounds, yeah. They should have called that movie Smrek. Sounds like a dick cheese. That's a terrible name.

Do you have smegma? No, it's worse. I got smek. I got Smreck. It's actually, it's when it advances into being, like, aggressive and starts... The man's name starts with SMR. That's a fucked name. That is not fun.

All right. So they got swept by the Celtics. September 28th, 1985. Yeah. Okay. Here's the headline in the Chicago Tribune. Daly's Point, colon, let me team with Jordan. Put us both out there.

What? Okay. Quentin Daly was explained. to a group of reporters how he and Michael Jordan could be basketball's odd couple when his new partner strolled up and put his arm around Daly. Jordan said, we can play together. We're going to be all right. You just watch.

Okay. Daly looked over at the superstar many thought he was jealous of last season and smiled. What a pair they would make. All-American boy and rebel without a cause. One is perfect harmony. The other is endless controversy. They didn't know what Michael was gambling and shit back then. and fucking anything that moves.

Fucking everything. He said, Daly said, I've always had to work against Michael in practice because the first and second teams play against each other. He said it was always me against Michael. Now at least give me the opportunity to play beside him.

They said, the Bulls remain guarded about their backcourt situation. Friday after the first day of practice at Beloit College, coach Stan Allbeck was in one corner of the gym describing how he could use Orlando Woolridge or fellow forward Gene Banks to bring the ball

up while deploying Jordan down low and daily on the wing. He said, that's how we beat Philadelphia in the playoffs one year when I was in New Jersey. Okay. So he wants to be a one or Jordan plus point? No, no, no, no. He wants to just

have a forward bring the ball up the court. Not in a particularly fast way, but just basically use a point forward so the scores could be in position and ready for the ball. Have Jordan down low where he can do his crazy float away post fades and shit like that and also take the ball of the basket and have Quentin outside where he can shoot or attack. It's a strategy.

Okay. There's a lot of... The Knicks would do that with like when they let Anthony Mason take the ball up the court. They let their shooters get in position and stuff like that. Yeah, Luca brings the ball up. Well, nowadays there's no positions anymore. Jokic brings the ball up. He's whatever.

He slowly brings the ball up the court and he does. This is crazy. Holy clumsily brings the ball up the court. The best player in the league. Hey, it gets it done, I guess. It happens. So what position are they putting them in then? Basically, they'd be the two and three.

Two and three. Okay. Yeah. So he's taking three? Daley would be taking three. Yeah, he's not going to be the point guard. So he'd probably be the three is what he's thinking here. So anyway, the coach says, we knew 76ers guards, Andrew Tony and Mori's cheeks would give us trouble.

So he had Albert King. bring the ball up against Dr. Jay, and that took Tony and cheeks right out of it. When the Bulls continue looking for a trade or to sign a playmaker, Daley continues his crusade to crack the starting lineup. He said, I sat on the bench last year, not because I couldn't beat the other guys out, but because of the coach's decision. He said, I beat the hell out of the other two guys, Ennis Watley and West Matthews. Everybody saw it, but they said I wasn't a point guard. I guess he wants to play the one. Yeah.

Hey, I never got a chance to show them what I can do. I can handle the ball. Your point guard's also kind of your floor leader, so you have to be there on time. You have to call out plays and shit. Like, you really have a lot going on. You've got to know so much. He said, it's like this. Look at Johnson and Aange at Boston.

Neither one is a true point guard, Dennis Johnson and Danny Aange, in case you're wondering. So why did the Celtics, what did the Celtics do, start Quinn Buckner? How do you think DJ or Aange would have felt? So he's saying they put two guys who they made it work. Just how Daly felt much of last season, particularly when Lockery would bench either Watley or Matthews in favor of the other, never considering Daly as a starter. Outwardly, Daly went along with the company line that he was too valuable as a sixth man. But in private, the unhappiness would spill out. He said, if a guy like Michael is taking my job, okay, I already know he's a great player.

Everyone thought I wanted Michael's job. That wasn't it. Now I'm just going for the open spot at the end. other guard. Bring on Kyle Macy, Darnell Valentine, and all those guys. I'll beat them all out. Yeah. Okay. October 17th, 1985. This makes way more sense from all the crazy shit he's been saying. Headline, Bulls Daly asks for drug help again. Yes. He sounds high every time he talks. Yeah. Every time he talks. He called Vice President Jerry Krause at 6.30 p.m. and asked to be admitted to a drug rehabilitation center for what he termed a, quote, chemical dependency.

So they said daily will be lost to the team for six to eight weeks while undergoing treatment. By the way, that's funny back then as they thought, hey, you put him in there for a month. And then he comes out, he can put him right back in the NBA and he'll travel. Everything's fine. No worries. Put him in there, six, eight weeks, pull the chemicals out of him once he's detoxed. He's going to be fine. It'll be fine.

There's no drugs on the road. So just send him on the road. There's no drugs on the road. There's also all people are exactly the same and only need six to eight weeks to be completely claim. It's not like he's had a problem before or anything, so, you know, yeah. So they said, this is Jerry Krauss said, he told me on the phone, I don't know how bad the dependency is right now, Jerry. I'm turning myself in and I need some help. I have a chemical dependency. Because he's voluntarily stepping forward, he will be suspended with pay while undergoing treatment. Under guidelines

of the Players Association contract with the NBA, that went into effect January 1, 84, The second time a player admits a drug problem, he's suspended with pay. The third time he's kicked out of the league. Or the second time he's suspended without pay. So he's got, that's the next time he fucks up. It's without pay. Got it. Because the new one starts off in 84 and everybody's got a clean slate from there, I feel like.

Then they're kicked out of the league. So with pay, without pay, gone. Gone. That's what it is. Strike one, two, three. That's it. This is only the first time Daley has come forward since that contract. went into a fence. In May 83,

he was admitted, but that was a different time. And in 82, he was treated for depression after he was found hiding in a closet after skipping a game. Very nice. Nice. Krause, visibly distraught, said he was shocked by the revelation. He said, nobody,

not even Quentin's wife, Angela, knew of the problem. Kraus said, Quinton sounded scared on the phone. Okay, I guess so. He's a scared kid right now, and he's asking for help. will stand behind him. We will do all we can to help him with his problem.

I asked him about the severity of his drug problem. He says it was severe enough that he wants to be admitted. As fast as I can, I'm going to find the best place for him and get him the hell out of town. I hope so. Jesus. Kraus said the bulls tried to trade him over the summer. He's like, God damn it, couldn't do that. They found little interest in him.

He's been a dick all year. Who wants that on their team? Go to your coach, if you're a general manager, and go, we're going to bring in this guy who every day trashes his coach in the paper. You want him? No, thanks. See how Rick Adelman takes it. Yeah, see how he likes it.

When the Bulls principal owner, Jerry Reinsdorf, took the team last, to control the team last season, he indicated Daly might not remain with the Bulls. Krause apparently interceded on Daly's behalf once he realized Daly's low market value. Krause said, I thought Quentin was too good a player to be traded for what was being offered. We thought his marriage to Angie this past July would settle him down. Yeah, they didn't. That'll calm it all down. She'll take care of it.

Did they hire this woman? They probably hired her to like meet him and marry him and keep him under control like a minder. They were like, just do it. We'll pay you a good salary. She's making like, you know, $250 grand a year to do that maybe. Suck the crazy thoughts right out of it. Just suck him right out. Just keep him settled, you know, make sure he's home at night, things like that.

He said, we're not talking about some jerk here. Quentin Daly's a nice young man. He has just gone through hell in his life. Sometime in mid-September, we spent five hours talking heart to heart. We delve deeply into the problems that were affecting him. We talked about his parents who both died when he was a teenager. That excuse is getting a little long in the tooth, by the way. Yeah, it's wearing thin for sure.

We're wearing a little thin. And I told him about the problems I had when my father died. Death has a major effect, has had a major effect on him. I thought we had come a long way with him this summer. He did all that volunteer work, got him a community service award from the NBA. I had the situation monitored pretty closely. I checked with my sources on the street, and they said they were clean. Jerry Krause just has, I picture just some drug dealer with a walkie-talkie.

Hold on a second. No, I haven't seen Quentin today. He hasn't bought shit from me. We cool? All right, beep, beep. And then he goes off. Fucking Jerry calls the next drug dealer to see if he's. Got to figure out there.

The whole drug deal with the community. Yeah. It goes to all the prostitutes. You see him quitting around? He's like huggy bear out there. He's like, I'll get the information. I got contacts on the street. He said, they said he cleaned up his act in June because of the new ownership.

He just stopped doing drugs because they got a new owner. He's like, oh, I better get it together. I'll clean it up for now and see where I, yeah, see where I rest in this deal. Wow. get comfortable again. That's crazy. An NBA spokesman said Wednesday night that the league is looking into it and that we haven't got enough facts to assess the situation right now.

Krauss said Reinsdorf was equally surprised by Daley's admission. He told me, try to help. Try to help Quentin all you can and get this thing and get this thing done with. They did not understand. No. Cocaine addiction back then. Just get it done with. Just tell him no.

Rub his nose. Tell him no. Yeah. Make sure his wife also tells him no, and that should be good, I think, at that point, right? That'll do it. Holy shit. They said they were, okay. In the meantime, the Bulls are left with only two experienced guards.

Michael Jordan and Kyle Macy. Well, you only need one of those anyway. They said, we'll have to go find another player. The Bull's preseason record fell to 0 and 5. Who gives a shit? Okay. October 20th, 1985. Daily Renews Cocaine Battle is the headline.

Yeah. Yep, while Quintendale Daly battles his private demons, the Chicago Bulls are getting ready to carry on without him. That's that. Rinesdorf, the owner said, we have to assume he'll be gone

for the year. We have to go out and replace him. We have to assume that. I have to assume he's going to be gone all year. That's bad. Yeah, if he comes back and plays fine, but it'll be under very structured conditions. If he doesn't agree to undergo regular testing, he won't play. That I can promise

everyone. He said, Daley will have no choice but to undergo random drug tests for one year, according to the Players Association, Executive Vice President. He said, this is a part of the NBA's drug program. He said it's part of the outpatient program. A player must go through. This is

the most significant part of the program. Once a player's system is cleaned out, abstinence is the only way to resolve the problem. Can't just do it a little bit after that. Once he's cleaned out, he can't be like, well, I'm only going to do Coke on the weekends now. My bad. You have to abstain and entirely. Oh, yeah. He said the program is designed to keep the player away from drugs and alcohol, anything that's mood altering.

Dependency is a thirst that will always be there. What you must endure is the day-to-day denial. The potential for Quentin Daly to fall back into it is always there. You don't get rid of cocaine addiction overnight. You have to work at it constantly. They said that three other players have gone through the league's drug rehab program, two of them, Rockets Guard John Lucas, and Nets Guard Michael Ray Richard. He is a crime and sports alumni, by the way. He is the one, I believe, I don't know, that was sly. Never mind. I thought I was going to say the aggressively nasty anal wars. That was Sly Williams, though. Okay, different guy. Michael Ray Richardson was a fun one too, though.

And last season became the comeback player of the year and were successful. The third, Jazzguard John Drew, was still a free agent. He'll have an episode one day. He was gone from the league after that. Oh, I believe. I think he might have came back with the same. sons for a minute and then got busted again. I believe. The question is burning inside Reinsdorf is how much longer does he put up

with Daly? Personable by nature and well-liked by his teammates, Daly endeared himself to former general manager Rod Thorne and Thornd defended Daly against all odds. But each time Daly skipped a game or missed a flight, Thorne looked bad and his credibility suffered. That's why he finally had to say, who's he think he is? Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. This is crazy. one bull's Yeah One Bulls official Remember seeing Thorne sitting in his office

Staring blankly ahead for five hours After another go-around with Daley Five hours He broke him bro That's you broke a man If they sit at a desk and stare straight ahead For five hours you broke that person Yeah that's an injured fella for sure

I've seen people watch someone get hit by a train And not have that reaction Like that's You gotta really be fucking Five hours Five hours. Jesus. Reinsdorf said, if this ever happens again, my inclination is that would be it. He would not play with us for us again. If we caught him this time, everything would be different. But when the man comes forward, you have to help him. This is a human being we're talking about. This is much more important than just basketball. The one smart thing we did after was alter his contract over the summer. Quentin now has a series of two one-year contracts guaranteed. by year by year. So if the Bulls have to release

daily, they would pay only one year of his $350,000 contract instead of two. So they just broke it down so it's not all guaranteed. And Michael Jordan said, quote, I'm very worried about what's going to happen to him. Yeah, that's all he said.

Michael Jordan said that? Michael Jordan said Q and I had gotten pretty close on and off the court. I was never involved in his personal life, but I was very much surprised. Everybody on the team was, We all thought he was progressing. I saw an improvement in his conduct and his effort at practice. God, he is such a practice PR guy already.

Think about, like, how polished of a PR guy he is. I saw improvements in his conduct and his effort during practice. That's ridiculous for a second year player. Wow, yeah. His marriage was working, and he always seemed happy. His team mood was good. He was cheerful around everyone, and he joined in on team conversations. It kind of show.

And then Kyle Macy said, it kind of shook us up. He's the other guard. You realize this is a lot more important to a guy's life than anything played out there on the court. Okay. Macy discounted the notion that his joining the Bulls two weeks ago had an adverse effect on Daly's fragile ego. He said, I don't see that. Not after the friendship we've built in such a short time. I talk to him more than anybody else.

Yeah. So they say the Bulls are going to have to look around to try to replace him. and all that. Reinsdorf, the owner, says, I've always been willing to overpay a player if he's able to help our club. We have to replace Daly, but other clubs know that we are under the gun. So in a trade, you're fucked basically. He said, we tried to make a trade for Daly. That would benefit us, but the best we could get was second round draft picks three years from now.

Looking at it now from a basketball standpoint, we would have been better off getting the draft pick. But over the summer, all indications were that Quentin was, changing his lifestyle. It was a reasonable gamble. Great. Okay. teammates expressed concern and said they would stand behind him. November 19, 1985. This is not a long time. No. Bulls Daily to return.

Oh, really? Wow, that's fast. They said he successfully completed inpatient treatment at a California drug rehabilitation center and is ready to play. How long was he there? He's good now. Eight weeks, I think. He fixed it. He's good now. set. That's it. Bulls announced Monday that he'd be added to the

daily roster, or to the active roster. He's gone through a tough time, says Jerry Krause. We really feel good about the way he's come out of this. He's really ready to play. The organization stands behind Quentin totally. Wow.

Daly said he lost eight pounds. Well, Coke will do that to you. How do you get fat and do Coke at the same time? I've never seen that before. People have done it. I guess it happens. Athletes have done it. You have to live like a medieval king to fucking do that.

Big turkey legs. You're just ripping shit, handfuls of like potato stuffing them in your face, lines with the other hand. Artie Lang did it with coke and heroin and gained like fucking 80 pounds. And he lived like a fucking medieval monster too. And that's exactly how he ate.

And that's why his nose is so fucked up today. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be, wow. He said he worked out three pounds a day and lost eight pounds, he's down to 203 pounds. He says, I'm happy to be back and ready to contribute. He said, I'm in good enough shape, but I'm not going to rush anything.

Now I can go out there and do my work. Okay. Yeah. Do that thing you do. Krause said the decision to bring Daly back at this time was not affected by Michael Jordan's broken foot earlier this season. Not at all. Not at all affected by our top score being hurt. Duh.

Playing the exact same position. Playing the two guard, yeah. The Bulls have imposed a media blackout to prevent reporters from asking Daly about anything but basketball. They have to go into it going only basketball. So November 20th, he's back. Guard Quentin Daly saying he was putting body and soul back on the line, joined the Chicago Bulls for practice. And he's ready to go here. Said he's good, basically.

The Bulls are extremely happy, Krauss said. When he entered the locker room, he was hugged by everybody on the team. He said he appreciated the greeting and said, I feel I have put my body and soul back on the line. And I mean this sincerely. I've never felt better in my life. Ever? Ever. Never.

Okay. That's it. He said that's, you know, that's how it is. The club asked reporters that because of the sensitive and personal nature of the problem, that all questions to Mr. Daly be concerned with basketball only. But, yeah. Krauss said it was no secret that there were. problems before October 16th.

But the fact that he came to me and asked for help means that he wants to not only be a productive member of the team, but society as well. Yeah. They released guard Ron Brewer to make room for him. He'll be in uniform. God, you got it feels like shit if you're this guy. Yeah. This fucking fat Coke head comes back and they release me.

He's barely out of the hospital. I suck. Daley said, I can't determine when I'll actually play. I've been working out three times a day and I finished the treatment program earlier than I've expect than I expected. So December 1st, the Sacramento B headline, it's an AP article, Bulls Daily, back on track. Now he's not only back, he's back on track. Yeah. He's good now. Tell you that. They said he's been on a tear since his return, November 19th, against Indiana. Since then, he shot 56.7 or 57.6% from the field and 84% from the foul line while averaging 18 points and 17.2 minutes per game.

That's outstanding, by the way. It's not bad, yeah. That's a point a minute is a... It's really great, yeah. That's great. I mean, your stars play 40 minutes a game. They don't average 40 fucking points, so that's pretty goddamn good. And you got a 24-second shot clock, so in two minutes, you get two possessions.

It's pretty goddamn good. And one of those, he's putting a bucket in. That's not bad. Yeah. Meanwhile, the Bulls, who had lost seven of their previous nine games before Daley's return, not coincidentally, Michael Jordan was actually. out with a foot injury during that span, won three of their next six,

including an upset at Denver, sparked by Daly's 14.3rd quarter. He heats up. The Chicago coach, Stan Allback, said, if we would have had Quentin, we would have won some games that we lost earlier in the season. They were that close. In the clutch,

Quentin wants the ball. They said, the Bulls obviously are happy with Quinton's recovery, but Quentin knows the questions of his character still remain. he said, well, you know what, let's give them it in their own words here. Let's do it. You want to feel what Quentin's feeling here. Let's feel, let's feel Quentin's heart. Here we go.

In their own words, quote, I know I'm being scrutinized by everyone. I know people are looking for me to fall. If I don't play well, they'll think, oh, he's back on drugs again. I'm trying to fight off a cold right now, and people see me sniffing and not playing well. You know what they're going to think. He's already saying he's. He's got the sniffles. Uh-oh.

He goes, I got a cold. They see me wipe my nose. I'm fucked. Okay. February 5th, 1986, this is, that was, let's see, that was December 1st, 85. So two months have gone by. Here we go. Daly absent again.

Pistons Edge Bulls. Oh, no. On the night the Chicago Bulls fell closer to the bottom of the Central Division standings. A final chapter may have surfaced in the troubled story of Guard Quentin Daly. They have fluffed him up good and then knocked his ass down quickly. Daly failed to appear for Tuesday nights, 117, 115 lost to the Pistons. Close game, too.

As Chicago dropped within a half game of last place with Indiana here, within a half game of last place, Indiana. Earlier this season, Daly missed 12 games while undergoing treatment. We all know that. During an 11-day stretch last month, the four-year veteran missed three practices in a team flight. That was back then. Okay. Now, they say this time, though, I guess he's, oh, I guess this was, this was last month. This was in January. During an 11-day stretch, he missed three practices and a team flight. His whereabouts were still unknown after the game. Bulls' vice president of operations, Jerry Krause, is awaiting a ruling by the NBA, but said it's possible that Daly has played his last game for Chicago.

He said, there are rules pertaining to what can be done to players coming out of a. drug clinic. We've been told by the league that it doesn't have to answer, that it doesn't have to answer to what can legally be done in this situation, but we believe we have an argument there, meaning we can get rid of him even though he came out of this program. Krause said, if Quentin has an excuse, it better be without reproach. We'll do what we can according to the rules. Then he said two days later, he issued Daley a, quote, final warning. at the very least the Bulls will suspend Daly he will be fined

182nd of his $325,000 salary for missing the game and an unspecified sum for changing his phone number without notifying the club he went underground Wow Kraus said why wouldn't he call us

I don't know if you find him ask him but we're not going to look for Quentin Daly he has to come to us now they're done even looking for him Wow. Less than four hours before the game Tuesday, a female identifying herself as Lois Stafford, that's not his wife, called the Chicago Stadium and told trainer Mark Field that Daly was in the process of fixing a flat tire on his way to the game. The Bulls haven't heard from Daly since an early afternoon practice. He just disappeared. He'll be there soon and never showed up. And then tried to say, I got a flat tire? No, that was at the beginning of it was he's got a flat tire and he's going to be late and then he just didn't show up for days. I won't be here.

Nope. One of the Bulls players, Gene Banks, said it's hard to comment on this. It could be something serious. Even if it's not, I'm not a perfect human being to criticize someone. He's like, I ain't saying shit. I could fuck up any day now. He's been out there for a few days. Yeah.

February 6, 1986, Quentin Daly again enters drugs. drug rehabilitation. Oh, there was no flat tire at all? Jesus, I don't think so. Well, he sniffed it all out. That's why it went flat because he thought there was cocaine in it and it was just sniffing it fucking vigorously. Troubled Chicago Bulls Guard, Quinton Daly on Wednesday, voluntarily enter drug rehabilitation for the second time this season. Spokesperson for the NBA club.

Oh, for the Bulls, I guess. They could have just put it that way in this article. Jesus said Daly had been suspended. without pay this time. Gary Bettman, General Counsel for the NBA. Isn't that the guy who was in the NHL later? The NHL Commissioner? Yeah.

Wasn't he the NHL Commissioner? Gary Bettman? But that was the NHL commissioner that every NHL fan I know hates vigorously. Who is he here? He is the General Counsel for the NBA. That's a lawyer. Yeah, that's what Pete Roselle did before they put him in there, too.

So that makes sense. Yeah, that might be. Is it two T's? Yeah. Yeah, that's got to be him, right? Yeah, yeah. It has to be the same guy as a lawyer for him major sports shit. Totally. He said that Daly has entered the Van Nuys Community Hospital in Van Nuys, California. He said how long he'll be there will be determined by the counselors. Okay. Oh, man. Jerry Krause has vowed immediately, had vowed immediately after the game to do everything possible to get rid of Daley. However, in a statement released Wednesday afternoon, the club acknowledged the NBA's drug agreement with the players association prohibited such action. So he can't kick a guy when he's down, rule.

Certainly. However, the club says, if after his release from the current stay at the center, he violates NBA drug status for a third time, he'll be barred from the NBA for a minimum of two years. Oh, yeah, so he did that. Wow. So the coach, Stan Allback, said, I can't write off Quentin Daly at this point because I don't know everything. Right. That's it. Immediately after the loss to Detroit, Krause was mad at Daly.

And that's when he said, we'll do everything within our legal bounds, put him on waivers or release him outright. I'm fed up with him. He's let me down. His teammates, the franchise, and this city. I'll do everything this league will allow us to do. Jesus Christ. Daily, the NBA's number two leading score coming off the bench with 16.3 points a game.

Great six, man. Still not helping. Wow. February 11th, 1985. This is in the Evansville Press. This is pretty funny, but it's from a guy named Gene Collier, who's a service, a wire story. The car connection.

Is there a link between breakdowns and cocaine? What does that mean? That's hilarious. Listen here, rare is the day that some government research group, local organization, or private money person does not announce the commissioning of some new study to determine something. For example, whether yaks in captivity will mate with the lights on. Presumably, it's only a matter of days then until someone finally takes a hard look at the suspected link between cocaine abuse and car trouble. The day after Quintendalee phoned the Chicago Bulls saying that a flat-tie takes a flat-tile. had caused him to miss a game. He entered a drug rehabilitation program for the third time. You'll remember soon after Chuck Muncie said he had his tires slashed and missed to San Diego Chargers flight to Seattle, he tested positive for cocaine.

Okay. You'll remember further that within weeks of the time, Steve Howe said his wife inadvertently took his car keys, causing him to show up late for a Los Angeles Dodgers game. Howe had a recurrence of his drug problem. Yeah. Yeah, guys don't show up. They make excuses for it because he'd be. do it once and they understand everybody's human.

But you can't keep it together. The drug problem in sports is brutally complex, but as bold a first step toward resolution, I suggest warning labels on all cars beginning with the 1987 models. Watch your tires. Okay. So from here, April 3rd, 1986, Bulls are daily season ended by drugs, obviously. Yeah, so he's pretty fucked. Krause said, I read positive in that this young man wants to rehabilitate and cares about straightening out his life.

Most guys come back too quick. Yeah, like you brought him back too quick because Jordan's foot was hurt for Christ's sake. Okay. So this year he plays in 35 games, starts at zero. He was playing 20.7 minutes a game, which is a career low for him and 16.3 points a game. And he would have had more games than more. points, but they, he had to go to rehab, right? Yeah, that's how it goes.

So, May 1st, 1986. Uh-oh. Daly to be counselor, the Chicago Tribune says. Of what? Bulls Guard to help out hospital drug program. Oh, shit. He still needs to be in the drug program. Yeah.

He's not done yet. No, you're still fucking simmering, buddy. Quentin Daley apparently wants to make the most of his last chance. That's the words from his agent, Eloise Saperstein. who said Daley will begin training Thursday to become a counselor in the drug program at the Van Nuys Community Hospital in California. Saperstein said he'll be released from treatment soon.

He's still in treatment. What the fuck is happening? He's planning on spending the summer out there. He and his wife, Angie, sold their place in Wheeling. Wheeling. Pennsylvania? Virginia? West Virginia?

Fuck? Why the hell is he doing that? why did it have that? There's got to be another wheeling. There has to be another wheeling. Is there a wheeling, Illinois? Or fucking probably or Wisconsin or Indiana or some shit like that. Daily's stormy four-year career with the Bulls is at a crossroad.

I would say so. For the record, I can't say anything definitive about Daley's situation, said the owner of the team. But yeah, it looks like he's going. Now, Gary Bettman, NBA General Counsel and head of their drug program, said it's Their option, we're not going to rule that somebody has to exercise the option. The league is not involved with the issue of whether a team will play him next year. There are lots of reasons why a player is not chosen to play. It might be attitude, leadership, ability, age, talent, whatever.

Maybe a team just doesn't think he can help them. So according to his agent here, Daly would be better off with a fresh start away from Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. They said the team is tired of, who is this talking? Oh, the team is tired of, oh, this is her, the team is tired of Quentin's problems. The fans are tired of Quentin's problems. The media is tired of Quentin's problems.

I think it would be better for him to try and come back in a new environment. I would say so. Yeah, that's, that's right. She also said there's no talent, or no question, the athletic talent is there. There will always be there. The main concern now for Quentin Daly is getting better as a human being. All right. June 18, 1986.

Bulls declare end to the association with Clinton Daley. He's done. Yep. It's over? General manager said, I really don't want to say a lot more than has already been said. We can still match an offer, but he's a free agent. How about that? That's it.

They're going to drop his ass. Done. So November 21st, 1986, Quentin signs with another team here. Where'd he go? The Jacksonville Jets. Who the fuck are they? of the Continental Basketball Association.

What? We've probably talked more about the CBA than anybody else on Earth ever has. Yeah. All of our NBA players eventually end up in the CBA here. Yeah. Nobody wants them in the NBA. They want to see him play and be clean and not be a dick and show up for games for a year first before they're going to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars at him. So he signed a contract with the Jets and we'll begin practicing today.

Daley's contract with the Bulls, which will be. reportedly paid him $325,000 a year was not renewed. So there you go. Daly said, I'm really happy to have the opportunity to play for the Jacksonville Jets. Right now, I'm taking it one day at a time, and I plan to play as hard as I can. He saw Bull Durham in the interim there, and he's like, okay, one day at a time, and God willing, play as hard as I can. November 26th, 1986, desperate clippers willing to gamble on Daly. Really?

This is five days after he signed with Jacksonville. They sign him. They're ready to play here. Wow. So they send him an offer sheet because they have a bunch of injuries. If all goes as expected, he should be in uniform as early as Sunday when the Clippers play the Lakers at the forum. Wow. They said, we've offered him a contract.

His agent has received it and is reviewing it. We'll talk again tomorrow here. No terms were disclosed. We can say it's probably not much. much since he's currently playing for Jacksonville. Yeah, we could say we hold all the cards. He has nothing to play here. Well, minimum his ass.

They said he left today and was going to Chicago to pack some personal belongings and to talk to his agent. He wants to be suited up for the Laker game on Sunday. Daley was still trying to get to Chicago Tuesday night to review the offer sheet with his agent. She said, I expected him at 10 p.m. but he called from the airport in Atlanta and said they had terrible weather and couldn't get clearance to take off. I'm expecting him by midnight. I haven't received the car trouble. That's what I just heard plane trouble he's got.

Yeah. In my head, of the weather, the plane's got a flat and it can't pull off. Yeah, my girlfriend's in a car accident. I got it. She's in a plane crash. I mean, I think I have to, shit. I don't know what's going on. I'll be there.

Don't worry. My girlfriend's plane. It's, it's overeating. Yeah. So it's how it goes there. The windshield wipers don't work. Yeah. Since the Bulls retain the rights to Daly when he presents a signed offer sheet from the Clippers to Chicago,

the Bulls have 14 days to decide if they want to, A, match the offer sheet, and resign him, match it and trade him, or not match it, and lose him without compensation. Okay. Asked whether the Bulls will match the offer. Jerry Krause said, no comment. You can speculate all you want. Okay. But a Clipper president said they've previously indicated that they plan to let him go.

If all goes right, we'd like to have him here as quickly as possible. Jesus Christ. He signed an $8,000 contract with Jacksonville last Thursday. 8,000. So it's going to be better than that. $8,000? $8,000 was his contract. Wow.

They said he's clean and serious about playing basketball. As far as I know, he hasn't used any drugs. And he said he's gotten away from that, and I hope he has. Clean and serious. clean, serious, and everything else. His agent said, I think he has the drug problem well under control. I think he understands his problem and deals with it.

He told me he takes it one day at a time. That's the answer. You and every other person in AA. Yeah, says that same answer. So that's both good and also a bit of a cop out in my book. I mean, it's both. It's the only way to succeed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it is. That's the thing. The steps. just saying that plan of taking it one day at time, that's the only way to succeed. Yeah. You know, I think maybe a lot of people have, but a lot of people haven't too. Oh, yeah.

Because A.A. is like a 5% actual success rate. Yeah, because they didn't stick to one day at a time. You know what I mean? Oh, oh, so it's their fault. Not the, the program isn't flawed. If you follow it, then it works. But 95% of the people don't follow it correctly. I don't know about all the other things.

But that one, one day at a time thing. That's literally the way to do it. It's the only way. You can't do one day now and then not tomorrow. You can't also do that for the rest of your fucking life. That's crazy. That's my point. You have to do that.

But their whole thing is the rest of your life is always a one day at a time. That's insane. Every day you wake up and go, you have to admit it every single day. You live like a woodland animal if you're living day to day like that. You can't live like that. You know what I mean? But I guess the alternative is don't get incredibly addicted to. And that's the problem.

If you're incredibly addicted, I guess if that works for you, that's just a triage thing of, well, fuck, this is better than drugs one day at a time. Yeah. But the only way to do it is one day at a time. I suppose. I mean, that's the same with everything, though. It's why they say it like that. Yeah, yeah. I just have some problems with some of those programs.

Sure. But also, don't eat Taco Bell. you have to do that one day at a time, James. Yes, but that's not as addictive as cocaine, unfortunately. I don't disagree. I'm just saying it's a very basic thing to say. It is. It is. It's a very easy thing to say.

And then it makes it seem like it's a very easy thing to do. I think that's my problem is it's oversimplified. Yeah. It's oversimplified to me saying, oh, one day at a time. Well, that really dismisses a lot of other factors and things like that. Yeah. It's just, you, you, okay, really good, insightful things don't fit on bumper stickers generally. That's the problem.

Yeah, usually. When you try to make them fit on bumper stickers, you get something that's kind of half-assed is what I'm saying. You lose the, you're right, you lose the message and you lose the difficulty and the, yeah, the complexity. Yeah. And whatever program works for anybody, great. Great. Do your thing. I don't care.

Whatever, if you get all Jesusy and stuff, stop talking to me, but I'm happy for you that you're not going to die. You know, I don't need to hear it, but go do it every day. Do it, yeah, do it every day, one day at a time. Because if you don't do that every day, then you're going to do drugs every day. That's true. November 27, 1986, final chance for Quentin Daly. Oh, here it is. This is it.

With the Clippers. With the Clippers, which is really almost the afterlife at that point. It's barely even another chance. But it's better than eight grand from Jacksonville. The Clippers General Manager Elgin Baylor, who Hall of Famer, He said if he's willing to help himself, we're willing to help him. They said he's got a lot of basketball skills, and if he's willing to concentrate on basketball, he can help himself at the same time. There you go.

They said if Daly doesn't do well with the Clippers, he's got a pretty good in with the Globetrotters. Yeah? Yeah, I would say. December 30th, 1986, Daly Black at work, Daily Black, still Black, Daly Black's out at work. Yeah, blacks out at work. Daly back at work with the NBA's Clippers. So there he is. He said, it feels good to have the opportunity to play.

I'm not going to be Mr. Miracle Worker. I'm just going to come out here and try to contribute. Sure. Two-year contract for the NBA minimum of $75,000 a year. Dang. It's better than eight. Better than eight. That's right.

They said anybody in the United States would want the minimum, he said, about that. He said, I understood the nine to five wages and everything I gave up. He goes, shit, $75 grand in 1986 is good. money. It's great. Yeah. Better than nine to five. He said, I'm lucky to get a job like this where I found out the hard, and I found out the hard way. The clippers are giving me a great opportunity. Everyone knows it's my last chance. The bottom line is play ball, stay sober, and take care of Quentin Daly and let the chips fall. I took time out to take care of myself and did a lot of soul searching. I kept out of the media's eye. I kept out of basketball's eye, and I took care of

who, Jimmy? Me. Quinton. Yeah. Quinton takes care of Quentin now. That's how this fucking works. That's good. So Quentin, 86, 87, Los Angeles Clippers. Holy shit, are they bad? Oh, yeah. 18. Wow. 12 and 70. 12. That is historically awful. Holy shit. That's bad. That is amazing. I don't even know how you do that. It seems like you It's crazy to be able to remember every win you have. Yeah, remember that one. That was a fun. Finished in dead last,

obviously. Don Cheney's the coach. Oh, Don. Michael Cage, Cedric Maxwell. Michael Cage was there. Yeah, yeah.

Before. That must be his rookie year. Yeah, right? After that. Cedric Maxwell, Vernon's cousin, I guess. Benoit Benjamin.

Mike Woodson, Darnel Valentine, Larry Drew, Earl Corton, Curiton, Rory White, Jeff Hustin, Houston, Kurt Nymphius,

Kenny Fields, Lancaster Gordon? Lancaster Gordon? Who the fuck is Lancaster Gordon? Jesus Christ. Tim Kempton? Stifond Johnson? Stefan.

Stefan Johnson. Stefan Duh, with a D. Oh. Stifond Johnson. Tim Kempton's there? Tim Kempton, Dwayne Polly. Huh? Wow.

I have never heard of half of this team. Yeah. I've got three. This is crazy. Yeah. Wow, they suck. Okay, February 22nd, 1987, here's a big article here. Quote, rapist, druggy, the past Hounds Daily.

Great. Quinton Daly can undergo therapy to battle his addiction to alcohol and drugs. He can exercise and diet to shed 23 pounds or fat around his middle, and he can work overtime to regain his scoring touch. He can even consent to countless interviews each day, willfully submitting himself to the arduous task of recounting again and again just what went wrong. But try as he might, Daly cannot escape his troubled past. No. Daily, or night after night, boorish fans from Seattle to San Antonio have seen to that. He said, quote, you hear it.

You hear it everywhere. You rapist, you druggie, you this and that. Since they paid $18, they figure they've got a right to rag on you. It's the same everywhere. He said, I'll probably shake it off. Maybe they'll forget after a while, but I doubt it. Everything that happens in the past, and that's where I made my mistakes. I can't bring back none of the past.

None of it. None of it. He said, but I can change the future. So that's what he's saying here. He said, Don Cheney, the terrible Clippers coach, apparently, with a 12-win team, said, bringing in Daly was a big gamble. He said, it gave me some stomach problems. and a lot of people raise their eyebrows.

I'm very conscious and concerned about his past and whether he'll be able to keep his life together. But the guy can play basketball and I'm desperate. Finally, somebody's fucking honest. This is the first person who's actually, everybody else goes in this big horse shit. There you go. Bullshit, horse shit, hogwash.

Yeah. Fucking, you know, dog shit explanation of everything. He said, if the guy can play basketball, I'm desperate. We need it. We need it. The Bull's going, no, it's nothing to do with Jordan breaking his foot.

That's why he came back. He's nothing to do with it. No, we're desperate and we need the fucking guy. So, yeah, they said, since his signing, he's been a model citizen on and off the court. In 19 games to date,

he's averaged 9.3 points, 1.3 assists on almost 17 points of play, has hit 79% of his free throws and I guess has shown up on time, which is a big deal here. Cheney said he's still got it. He's slowly getting his touch back. He just needs to relax a little and try not to take on so much of the offensive load.

Well, it's such a bad team. You'd feel like you have to. Christ. They said Daley has been equally impressive in his private life, mindful of the scrutiny afforded an admitted addict. He's careful to be on time for all meetings, buses, or planes, and arrive several hours early for every practice or game. Practices at what?

Four? I'll be there at like 1.30 just to make sure I'm not late. I'll be there the day before. Oh, man. On the road, Daley leaves several wake-up calls with the front desk, sets his own travel alarm, and asks his teammates to make sure he doesn't oversleep. Wow. He said, everybody's watching me. There's lots of people who want to see me fall. I'm the child who got too many chances. But don't blame me. It's not my doing. God's the one that gave me the opportunity. Wow.

He said, I'm the one that messed everything up. Me. Now I've got the chance to come back and do it all right. That's not my fault. If you look at it, I tried every other way to get out of it. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah. There he is. What is he saying, Jimmy? I'm good.

I'm good as fuck now. Yeah. Good now. Yeah. Good now. Yeah. He said, look, I've got a wife. Yeah.

We're more expecting a baby soon. Oh, perfect. That won't add any extra pressure. I've got a family to look out for. This is my job, and it's up to me to provide for them. I had to do look out for our best interests. So he's back in there. He said,

To tell the truth, this is probably the best place for me. If you think about it, they had drug abuse out here a long time before it got to the East Coast. They know all about it. They understand it and they know how to treat it. That's what got me in trouble before. Some of those small towns in the Midwest didn't understand my problems. They didn't even want to talk about it. But out here, I know I can get the help I need.

Okay. All right. March 23, 87. USA Today article on them. Every hotel in America there, someone looking outside their door and picking this shit up. And sixth grade class attest with current events. Yeah. Quentin Daly, guard takes new look at past.

Yeah. He said, Quentin Daly smiles easily and often these days. Why not? Or perhaps, how has this come about? Yeah. He said Daly didn't have much to smile about in his first 26 confused, troubled, and controversial years. Oh. He says now, quote, I'm happy with myself. I feel like it's my first year and I'm starting all over again. Two years ago, I couldn't laugh about it. Now I'm taking care of me, my wife, Angela, and future kid. Oh, and future kid. Yeah. We just pencil him in as future kid. That's his name. He said, I can't do anything about what's happened. I don't want my kid to grow up like I did. I went through so much. I hate to see someone else go through it. I know what it's been like out there alone. Everybody makes mistakes. mistakes, mine just compounded.

There's no more room for mistakes. That's what they said. No more room. Elgin Baylor said he deserves the opportunity. He said a gamble. I didn't look at it as a gamble, but there's always the possibility. Meanwhile, when he signed him, he called it a huge gamble. Right.

Yeah. He said, is it a gamble? Yes, it is. You bet. And here he says, I didn't look at it as a gamble. Okay. He said, I told them this NBA is where you belong. That's what I told Quentin.

This is your livelihood. We went through it with the therapist, with our team physicians, and they assured me he was ready to play in the NBA. All right. All right. He said, being young and without parents at a key age, I learned a lot about my life, Quentin says. I learned the hard way. My attitude was, I'll do it myself. I don't need no help.

Now I let people inside. I'm trusting. Is David Cross and scary movie, James? That's what he's right. Yeah. Yeah. He said he used to be a loner. He said, you never get where you.

you're going to get when you, when you dealt, oh, you never know what you're going to get when you dealt with Quentin Daly. He didn't know either. He said, I didn't want to live with me. You didn't know what would trigger me. Some people would tell me I was a walking time bomb. I went to war with the public and myself. He said, it haunts me, but I understand it now.

It's the past. I do care about people and it's sad. It never came across. You read things and say, damn, that's not me. I had to get to the league and I was ready to die. I felt like a 50-year-old man at 23. I had everything I wanted. He said suicide came in my head, but when the odds are against me, I fight.

You piss him off enough and he's ready to fight here. That's what he said here. He's got his wife, Angela, and she's in his corner. They met through her cousin, I guess. And, yeah, he said that she's a tough lady, and that's that. It's been hard, but well worth it is what Angela says, who is Reggie Jackson's niece, by the way. It's unbelievable. That's crazy.

She said, I'm a football fan. I didn't know him. I had heard about him, but I didn't associate it. My friend said, that's Quentin Daly, the Quintan Daly. I still didn't impress me. I thought if he was somebody, he'd be Larry Bird or someone like that. That's pretty funny. She's like, my uncle's Reggie Jackson.

Like, you got to be a star. Hit 500 home runs and talk to me. You know, Hall of Fame type shit. Get a nickname, Mr. October. You know, some. Have movies try to give you cameos. So the audience goes, holy shit. Yeah.

Was he tasked with killing the queen? Didn't think so. Fuck him. So she said that she sees her husband as a more confident and happier than in the last two years. And he acts and looks just like one more nervous father to be. Yeah. Daley, who named his media image, Mr. Mean. That's how he acted apparently, says his rehabilitation helped him realize a lot of his pent-up anger.

He said it was a sad situation, but I was fortunate. A lot of people have gone through it and didn't live to tell about it. I don't know how I made it. It was frightening. Clippers guard Larry Drew, who considers Daly a best friend of his, said I hadn't really known him personally, but he's a heck of a guy. Yeah. Yeah. He said, they hang out together on the road. And he said he was surprised with how good of a personality Daly had.

He said, I knew he had the talent. It was just whether he was over his personal. problems and he has got a great sense of humor and keeps us loose. Teams need that, especially us. If you can't laugh at yourself, what can you laugh at when you're 12 and 70? How dare you laugh at anyone else if you can. Exactly. That's a good way to put it too. Daley said he wasted the first four years of his career. He said, I think a lot of people are tired of hearing about me, but I don't worry about what they think now. He said, everyone was scared because of my past getting into trouble. I could understand where they were coming from.

I can't get mad at anyone. I did it and it'll hang, it'll hang over me until I prove people wrong. If I miss practice, everybody goes back to San Francisco. Basically, I miss practice. I'm out. I'm going back home. So, here we go. This is fun here.

They have the daily file here where they gave him like a, basically a like a little resume on him kind of thing, but like personable shit here. likes. I'm a prankster. I like to joke. Also, miniature golf cartoons, the Sledgehammer TV show. He's super into the Sledgehammer TV show. The guy from Masters of Mayhem or Masters of Menace. Oh. What? Sledgehammer TV show was that one guy, right? Yes, yes. Yeah. Was it Shadow Stevens? Or was he involved or the guy who looked like Shadow Stevens? It's the guy that look, that biker movie I've been telling you about, David Rashke, Rashi, that's his name. Yes, yes, yes.

That biker movie that I was telling you about, that's the guy that's the lead biker in it. It's called Masters of Menace, I think. Yeah, that was shitty one we were talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a terrible movie. Yeah, that's him. Holy shit. Yeah, that was a.

He loved that guy's show? He loved Sledgehammer. That show was on for maybe two seasons, too. Two seasons at best. assembling model cars and planes. I loved model cars. Yeah, I did too. When I was 11, they were cool.

Yeah. Movies, bowling, arcades, shooting pool, doing things with kids, quote, they're the future, and I'm a kid at heart. What is he 15? What is he doing? What is going on?

That's what I'm saying. All this shit adds up to, it sounds like a 15-year-old having a good time. Roller skating going to be in there soon. Laughing and smiling. Junk food, especially, potato chips. Yeah, he said this sounds like a fucking 15 year old. Do you also love hanging at the mall?

And Gatorade. Okay. Family, wife, Angela, he said, my world is wrapped around me and her. Baby due next month. Yeah. Okay. Education. No degree. His home, he's renting a two-bedroom house in the Hollywood Hills at this point. Yeah.

And that's what's going on here. Okay. Now, this year, with the Lakers, 49 games played. Five started. 18.9 minutes a game. He averages 10.6 points, 1.7 rebounds, 1.6 assists. So not too great. June 2, 1987, the Clippers have retained the rights to Quentin Daly.

Oh. Would have been a free agent if they didn't exercise their option. But they exercised their option. And he says that he savers another chance after battle with drugs. It's all ready to go again. His whole entire thing is, I'm good now. It's every, I mean, he goes from, I'm good now, I'm good now, I'm good now, to I completely fucked up, I completely fucked up, I completely fucked up, I completely fucked up.

Then he's good now, good now, good now. Yeah. It's his cycle. Like, he's a classic crime in sports guy. He says that, uh, I found out you are by yourself when you're using drugs and alcohol. It's only one person and it's only one person in a coffin and there's no double coffins. It's just you. Wow.

Yeah, they do not have a love seat coffin. He's right. No. Yeah. He said, that's the message I try to get across to people. You can believe me or not, but I know my life is a true story. Okay. He said he's found himself and he's ready to run with the clippers.

He knows it's his last chance and he won't fuck it up. He said he hasn't used drugs in 18 months. He's been married and has a baby daughter. So he won't junior her up. That's good. He said, I'm happy. I feel good about my personal life and I'm excited about playing basketball again. After five years of being a wonder around the league, okay, I can go back to being just Quentin.

That's right. He's been speaking. He spoke at Seamy Valley High School. He's been doing speaking gigs about drugs. He's all L.A. All L.A. He said, I got through high school all right, but in college it was a different scene. There were parties and marijuana and cocaine.

I know now it was just a way for people to help to keep me at their level. I was a star athlete and it brought me. to them, but I had the feeling that nothing could beat me. If I ran into a 6-11 guy on the court, why? I just dunk right over him. I had to let cocaine beat me in order to win. When I did, it was a gorilla jumping on my back and it wouldn't get off. I suppressed all the feelings I had about myself.

I had always been strong-willed and I thought that was a real asset to me in sports, but it hurt me in this, in this, meaning drugs, to be so stubborn. You don't want to admit you're scared. You don't want to admit you're worried about how you might fit in. And he said the lesson is to not be afraid to be yourself. Yeah, that's a great. Don't be afraid to, but what if yourself is a guy who loves to do Coke? Then what's your problem?

Then you better be afraid to be yourself. And you got to be afraid. Yeah. He said that, yeah, that's how it is. Just be yourself, he said. Other people have the same feelings. So what if you don't fit in? Just be the best you can be.

He said that my best will no longer include drugs. And then he says my favorite thing. I'm high on life now, which I have to write down because that's a great title for this show. High on life. That's the one. High on life now. Yeah, I'm doing great. I'm high on talking to people and trying to help them out.

Wow. That's well. He said, I went through it and I just want to get involved. Going through what I did, I think you can get people's attention. all you can do is talk to them, be honest, and hope they get the message. He said, I know high school's important time for you. I can remember everything in my high school that my high school coach told me, you've got a lot of things going on in your life right now. You've got a lot of decisions to make.

He said he had trepidations about bearing his soul, but he said now he's doing great. It's public speaking and he's loving it. Terrific. He said, I'm just trying to make a life for myself and my family in the game. 8788 clip hairs here okay uh they finish Jesus Christ this is an embarrassment 17 and 65 they're not getting much better this is while the Lakers are in the midst of a dynasty yeah so imagine you're in L.A and you have they're so fucking bad and the Lakers are so fucking good that is this is probably about the time that uh

Bowden wrote the joke about telling people he plays for the Clippers because even he lives in L.A. and he can't name three that play for the Cleppers. The Clippers. Yeah. And this is also, man, this is like, it must have been kind of fun to be a fan, though, because you could, I mean, you could probably buy any ticket and go sit at court side. Nobody would care. No one's buying those fucking seats. He probably could have delivered them pizza on the bench.

They wouldn't have given a shit. No. This is Coach Jean Shue. Wow. And they are 20. second of 23 in the league in attendance as well. They drew all season

345,589 people. Wow. That is a disgrace. Bleak. That is fucking bleak. And their roster is really bleak. It's the same as last year except add Greg Kite to the equation and fucking add a goofy white guy and a couple other people here. Steve Burt with two T's. Okay.

Wow. Interesting. October 22nd, 1987. Daly's, quote, supplier gets seven-year jail sentence. Oh, fuck. As an admitted drug dealer tells it, he was the only, he was only doing a favor

when he supplied cocaine to, quote, my friend Quentin Daly. Oh, my God. But federal drug agents who monitored at least two meetings between Daly, now a member of the Clippers, and his avowed Chicago cocaine source, Johnny Minor. Johnny Minor, like a young person, not a person who gets ore.

Johnny Minor suggests the relationship was less than friendly on occasion. They say they saw Minor attempting to muscle Daly during one meeting at Chicago Stadium. Daly's relationship with Minor, a former University of Nebraska football player, came to light Tuesday when Minor was sentenced in U.S. District Court to seven years in prison on drug charges. They said, the judge said the judge said the fact, fact that you supplied narcotics to Quentin Daly and that Quentin Daly was a consenting buyer was no defense in this case. No name dropping and cocaine sentencing.

Wow. He also, Minor who once aspired to play in the USFL, had pleaded guilty to charges that he conspired to sell a kilo of Coke for $42,000 to undercover agents in Chicago. Oh, boy. Oh, man. He also says, and, uh, this. This is funny here. January 3, 1988.

Coke gave him someone to talk to. Ha! Cocaine's my only friend. That is amazing. Cocaine gave me someone to talk to. That is fucking amazing. And this is a fluff piece. This is like a ball of cotton candy.

It's so fluffy. You could condense it down to nothing. St. Louis Post Dispatch, January 3, 1988 8, big block letters rehabbed. Rehabed. And then under it, Quinton Daly, ex bad guy, overcoming troubled past. Absolutely.

Let's get fluffy, everybody. Whatever he's making out in L.A. has afforded him a publicist. I'll tell you that much. Son of a bitch. Yeah. They said that guard Quintendale of the Clippers used to figure that cocaine was his only friend.

Of course, it wasn't. It was his worst enemy. But at least they can talk to each other. other. At least now we have like a civil rule. If I see him, if I see cocaine at a party, I'll not do cocaine, but I won't like, you know, we won't have a long conversation. It's my front of me. Yeah, my friend. If I meet him like around the dip or something, we both got a chip. I'll say what's up, but we're not really looking to hang out with each other. Coke is my friend of me. He says, I'd be dead or in jail if I hadn't stopped doing coke.

He said, you know, cocaine gave me someone to talk to. All I wanted to do was tell someone how I felt. A drug can't talk back to you, so it became my best friend. Wow. Okay. I'd never get high with anyone else. I'd lock myself in a room and do my Coke alone. I snorted and free-based. Excellent.

That's not a problem. No good at all. He said, no, he's been a model citizen. He's doing great. He said, I don't want anyone to have any reason to think I'm on drugs. If I have a cold and a runny nose, I don't want people to think I'm using drugs. Sure, I've been off for drugs since I left rehab. I guess people figure that I was on Coke once and they can make some more money off me, but I just walk away.

I look at it like, I've been down that road before, and it leads to nowhere. I'm only 26, but sometimes I feel like I've already lived a lot longer than that. He says now he's committed to staying sober and living his life with his wife, Angela, and their daughter. Holy shit. I love this name, by the way. Cocaine? It's so much sillier than that. All right.

Imagine if he had a son after hearing this. His daughter's name is Quincy Angela. He wanted it so bad. So bad. He said Quincy's the second best thing that ever happened to me. My wife is the first. She stuck by me through all of this. Don't say it.

Right? Angela said, a lot of people said, you should leave him. He'll never get off drugs. But drug addictions and illness. I wouldn't leave him if he had. had cancer. Yeah. But I also let him know that I wouldn't go through this 100 times.

He didn't do this to hurt me. I know he really loves me. One difference is I think he has more confidence in himself. This baby makes him feel needed. That's great. You should have children to fill holes in your own shit. That's healthy. But she's still the second most important thing to me.

Second, you know, only a second. Welcome to the world number two. Yeah, what's up there fucking? What's up there? Metal. How you doing? How do you do? Deuce. Because his parents died at such a young age, he wants to be a good father. This is the first baby he's ever been around, and it makes him feel needed. Now he realizes that he's important. The team officials say that Daley has had a positive impact on the Clippers, and they're trying to rebuild their image as well. The terrible coach

who's probably soon to be fired since he won 17 games, Gene Shue said, I judge a person by what he has done. I'm certainly aware of his past, but he has done a good job here, and I hope he stays the same way. And Quentin said, if I have time, I'll speak to anyone about drugs. Maybe I can help a kid not go through the things I went through. He said, I was scared. Everything has been settled, but I was still going through a lot of grief. I was torn up inside. I didn't talk to anyone on the team during my first three months of my rookie year. I only had one friend, cable TV. Oh. fucking cable

down yeah that's amazing me and chris burman were pals here's the fucking cable guy now I only had one friend magnum p.I

besides that we're I had I totally had two friends with a friend in Vietnam I only had two friends bow and Luke Duke

besides them oh god competition with them over that chicken the cutoffs yeah I think that was their cousin

so he would have had her free and clear. Yeah. Yeah, that was Daisy. They were cousins. Was they not trying to? Uncle Jesse's girl.

Were they not trying to? No, it was Uncle Jesse's daughter. They were first cousins. Yeah. Even, I get that in Real Hazard County, probably. But on TV, no. Can't do it, right? No, I'm sure that was in the original script.

And they were like, you can't have them fucking her. Come on. That's their cousin. They were always sticking up for her because she would like, you know, punch somebody at the bar she worked at. Yeah. Yeah. Now they said he also had drugs.

He said, Cocaine helped me to fill a, void in my life. I never used drugs while I was playing. Bullshit. I'd get high the day before the game, but it stays in your system. Oh, I don't know if you got high before the game, but I'm sure he thought he meant like during the season.

I was like, come on. He said, everyone wants to be well-liked, and when I first came into the league, I was the worst thing people had ever laid eyes on. I'd walk into a restaurant and people would look at me and get up from their table, you know, because of the rape charge and all. He said, I was always prejudged the wrong way,

but I helped out too. I did my share of stupid things. People said I was a bad boy and I said, I'll show you what a bad boy I am. But I hurt myself more than I hurt others. Right. Instead of taking out and out on others, I took it out on myself. I couldn't see the positives. I only saw the negatives. I thought if I won games, I could win the hearts of the people. I worked so hard that I was hyperventilating. He said, the first time he checked into a drug clinic, he underwent attack therapy. What? This is an old thing that they used to do, actually.

This was a thing that they did. Now they realize this is absolutely not the thing to do. You'd sit in a room and everyone would verbally attack you. You just basically sit in the middle. It's like Scientology, basically, is what you do. It's the same exact thing as Scientology. That's what they do in Scientology. They sit you down and have everybody yell horrible shit at you and try to break you.

He said it was wrong for me, but I went through it. The Bulls told me I had to go to therapy. Wow. as Bull spokesman said they won't talk anything about him anymore. Oh. They're not saying shit. His drug counselor at the ASAP clinic said he wasn't ready when he left the program the first time. Some people need to stay in for a little longer.

Now I think he wants to make a change. He feels better about himself. He moved to Los Angeles on his own after he was discharged from the clinic because he wanted to be, he wanted to complete his outpatient care. They said he also developed close relationships with drugs. counselors that he's had. He said, all my life I've been looking for friends. Rex is my friend. So I grabbed on to him.

All my life, I've had people who wanted to be friends, but I couldn't tell the good from the bad. And one of his counselors, Richard Knight, said, I'm very proud of Quentin. He's an excellent example of the fact that people can turn their lives around. He's very helpful to others in the program. When someone has walked down that road before, he can be helpful to others. Yeah Elgin Baylor said

I felt Quentin's chances of beating his drug problem were far greater than other guys He worked hard to lick this thing Most guys only spend six weeks in rehab Because their teams need them back I'm no expert on drugs But I don't see how anyone with a serious drug problem

Can be cured in six weeks But he was in the drug clinic a lot longer Finally someone who's like I'm no expert but that seems silly right Six weeks is awfully fast That's awfully fast to fix your whole life, you know, and just turn it all around. That year, I guess, yeah, he's played in all these times. The Boston Celtics coach, Casey Jones said, Quentin Daly's a piece of work.

Okay, because I guess he was, he played well against them. He scored a season high, 23 points in a loss to Boston, but Casey Jones called him a piece of work out there. So he's playing good defense. He's hustling. He said that he had, you know, he said, sure, I had the money, nice clothes, a Mercedes, but I didn't have anyone to share it with. I had a lot of material things, but they don't fill a void. I was lonely. Yeah.

Now, his wife, Angela, is a former Chicago fashion model. Nice. Married July 20th, 1985. He said that, you know, that's his whole thing now. She said, a friend of mine said, you're going out with Quentin Daly, the drug addict and rapist. It's a nice bubble to have under you there. I didn't say anything, but I asked Quentin about it, and he told me the whole story. She said, I don't think I'm going out with the drug addict rapist.

Hey, are you the drug addict rapist, Quintin Daly? You might be mistaken, but I'll ask him. I'll ask him. She said, he really opened up. I had faith in him, and if that's what he said, that's the way it was. He hadn't lied to me. But he didn't tell her he had a problem with drugs, so he was lying to her. she said after he entered rehab three months after the wedding she said i was floored he never did

drugs at home and never did drugs around me i didn't have a lot of knowledge about drugs at the time and i didn't think drugs would be a problem i thought you get off and then you're off that's it you're fine reggie's not a drug guy so i don't know what these athletes are doing um she stayed with relatives while he was in rehab and attended family support meetings at the clinic she said that everything seemed fine after he was released uh but it wasn't She was on her way from work to watch a Bulls game when Daly's agent called her on a car phone. Wow, that's expensive back then and said that Quentin wouldn't be at the game. She said, I thought something happened to him, but she caught a plane to California and remained there while he underwent treatment once more.

Uh-oh. Then the, they, uh, Daly's struggle seemed to have strengthened the bond between him, between them. Angela said, he started to tell me his feelings and has opened up more. We've gotten a lot closer. I realized that he didn't do this to hurt me. I know that he really loves me and I really love him. And as long as he has sledgehammer, I think he can get through it. Is that what she said?

She did not say the last line of that, no. She's got coke and sledgehammer. As long as he's got sledgehammer and Gatorade and fucking all that other poor shit he was doing and eating and model airplanes and bowling and whatever else. And his friends at the mall. Yeah. So there you go. Let's end it there. Wow.

Next week he will be He will be emceeing An event called Rap for Peace Which is pretty fucking awesome So we'll get into who's involved in that As you can imagine That'll be pretty funny in 1988 So Quentin is

This is Quentin's rubber Rubber game here Like it could have gone either way And now we'll find out if he can keep this up In part three He's really getting to rap At the right time Because it's about to be the least peaceful

Form of music Yeah No He's not rapping He's the em, he's the emce, not an emce. Oh, boy. He's the emcee in terms of bringing to the stage right now, this guy. Oh, my word.

Not like I'm an emcee. Let me give you a fucking rhyme here. Jesus. There we go. There is Quentin Daly part two, and we have plenty more Clinton Daly. Three will be the last part of Quentin Daly. So it'll be a little, you know, like the first three Star Wars. You know, I think it's a little kind of an epic.

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