Crime in Sports - Of Junkie & Mooch - Ramsey Dardar
Episode Date: July 28, 2026This week, we tell you all about an NFL player, who didn't last very long in the league. Instead, he buried himself in mountains of cocaine. But with no money coming in, he turned to crime to pay for... his ever growing habit. He also had some terrible tragedy, that he almost made even worse. Teammates, coaches & family all try to help him, but he won't stop getting arrested. Maybe it's the cocaine. Maybe it's his 71 IQ. But either way, he destroys hsi life, almost beyond repair. Can he turn it all around?? Have your choice of college scholarship offers, get REALLY into cocaine, and break into a police officer's house, and steal his guns with Ramsey Dardar!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
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So that's where I got the even kind of, he was put on my radar here.
This is James Ramsey Dar-Dar.
Speaking of Radar.
This is Dar-D-A-R.
D-A-R.
Yeah, what's he too?
James Dardar football player
We'll talk about
Played for three different NFL teams
And we'll get into all of this shit here
Didn't have a long career
By any stretch of the imagination
But he was there
He's born October 3rd, 1959
In Sicilia, Louisiana
He's a big guy, a lineman
265 pounds, 6 foot 2 defensive lineman
Big old cat like that here
His father is Murphy Dardar
Senior
which means there's a junior.
He's not junior, but the family put forth a junior.
So that counts as something.
Love it.
His mother is Leona.
His mother is Leona Joseph Dar-Dar.
Her middle name is, his mom's middle name is Joseph.
Which sounds like an insult when you're like 10.
Your mom's middle name is Joseph.
And you'd be like, fuck you, dude.
Heard of a lot of ladies named Joe, but didn't know anybody to go ahead and
Joseph.
That's so weird.
Whole Joe.
Wow, the whole Joe we're going here.
His brothers are Joseph Murphy Dar-Dar and Armand, George Dar-Dar.
And he's got sisters, Leona, Carmelita, and Pamela.
So that's a lot of kids.
I'm counting six, counting him, counting James.
That's heavy, yeah.
He grew up the youngest.
So I'm not, it always says he was the youngest of four children.
So I don't know which of the other five lived here.
three out of the five must have lived with him.
I don't know where the other ones are, so we're not sure.
His uncle Reggie Dar-Dar is a former track and field athlete at LSU, by the way.
So there's athletics in the family.
Now, Dar-Dar here, he said, quote,
I grew up on a farm.
I'm a country boy.
I've had it good all my life.
Where I grew up, it was a small town.
The only time you saw Red Light was around Christmas time.
Everyone knew everybody.
So there you go.
I assume the lights of the Christmas, not of the traffic light.
I assume, yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of Cajun roots here, big time here.
He attended Cecilia High School there where he developed into a big football prospect here, starting in 1975.
And he's also shot putton, as we found out.
In April 23rd, 1975, when he was in seventh grade,
he set a new record for Cecilia in the shot put.
Oh, yeah, he set a new record of 45 feet, 11, I guess, and a half inches, maybe, something like that.
So, not bad.
October 13, 1976, he's all sorts of in the paper as a sophomore for being a good defender as on the Bulldogs football team.
They're saying Ramsey Dar-Dar led all individuals and tackles.
So, doing great.
there. Then, apparently, there was a situation in the fourth. It was a fourth and two situation
where they threw to Ramsey Dar-Dar here. He goes by Ramsey Dar-Dar, by the way, not James.
Full-Nay. It's Ramsey Dar-Dar, not James Ramsey-Dar. So he goes by Ramsey Dar-Dar.
This was broken up again by the secondary. So apparently he's receiving two. He's probably playing
fullback or something, I bet. That's what they do a lot. Now, right under that,
is something to think about here.
If you're in the St. Martin'sville, Louisiana area, say in around 1976, you'd want to go to
Senorelli's Club.
It says where the action is.
And then it says, come to the action spot.
Come to it.
I think you go here.
You get laid, I think is what they're trying to tell you.
It says 50 tons of air conditioning for your comfort.
I have never heard of air conditioning described in weight.
before, have you?
Yeah, I mean, they are
an air conditioning unit is measured in
tons, but I've never heard of that as
like a selling point of
why to go somewhere.
You'd think you'd just be like ice cold air conditioning
in here, if that's what you're trying to put out,
but 50 tons of air conditioning, I go,
is that enough? Is that too much?
How much air conditioning is that? That seems like a lot.
And then it says,
dances, colon, Friday,
no dance. So here's
the dances coming up, none,
because Friday there's no dance.
So I don't know what's happening in this club.
But that's where the action is, just not Friday.
You got 50 tons.
50 tons AC, baby.
That seems too heavy.
Is that a lot of, yeah, it seems like the roof will collapse with that many,
that much air conditioning, right?
1977, May 18th, he's shot put in here.
More shot put action.
And I guess he placed second place in the AAA state competition
with a heave of 54 feet, eight and a half inches.
So that seems great.
Yeah.
As a junior, Ramsey stood six foot two inches and weighed 230 pounds.
And this was like a, he gained a lot of weight, really turned into a physical force.
And so college recruiters start looking at him.
And he's really strong, just absolutely just a powerhouse kind of a guy.
One of those guys.
He ended up setting a Louisiana state.
record in the shot put with a throw of 59 feet.
That's great.
That's incredible.
So it's better than anyone else in Louisiana ever did.
59 feet.
That seems like a lot.
That seems incredible.
What are those like?
15, 10, 12 pounds, something like that?
They're fucking heavy.
And 59 feet's just, I mean, a foot short, but the distance between, you know,
the pitcher's mound and home plate.
Yeah.
It's a good distance to heave something really, really heavy.
So December 21, 1977.
I guess he has 17 points playing basketball too.
Yeah.
He's doing great.
He had three for five from the stripe there,
and he had seven baskets that night.
September 10, 1978,
they say the Cecilia Bulldogs are heavily favored to capture the five
AAA title this season.
Ready to go.
They're saying one of the main reasons...
Five AAA?
is five AAA.
I don't know how they rank,
how they do their high schools there,
how they sort them.
But they're saying that one of the main reasons
for their upcoming success
is going to be the return of the versatile athlete
Ramsey Dar-Dar, who happens to be...
Oh, he's the reason, huh?
He's the guy, one of the most outstanding football players
in the state, the talented players in his third year
on the varsity, and he started ever since he first put on
the green and white uniform of the Bulldogs.
How about that?
Ramsey is a valuable player to coach Johnny Devalier's charge that he's played both on the line and in the backfield this first two years.
I figured fullback.
The coach says Ramsey is a very versatile player in that he can play any position on the team.
He plays both offense and defense and also is in our punt return teams.
He was an all-district fullback last season here.
So anyway, they said we didn't know how good our offense.
line would be this year because we had some inexperienced kids coming back, we figured that
Ramsey would strengthen our line by moving him there, just to the offensive line.
Sure.
So they say that he wanted to, he said it didn't bother him.
Ramsey said, I felt like I would help the team more if I moved to the line.
We have good running backs in a young line.
Since I'm one of the leaders on the team, I figured I could help the young linemen out more.
And when asked what Ramsey's strong points were, his cousin's.
coach said his defensive talents.
He's also valuable in the backfield as a blocking back.
So that said, I'm going to put him on the offensive line, essentially.
That's what he did in the same article.
And Ramsey said he has the highest respect for his coach.
He said, coach is an understanding person in that he helps everybody out.
If anybody has a problem, he can go and talk to the coach about it.
He also knows the game of football.
And he says that he thinks that they can maybe win the district tie.
but he said St. Abbeville and St. Martinville are going to be tough.
So they're real tough.
They're good teams.
They say Ramsey's not only an outstanding football player, but he also plays for the track and field here.
He's been the five AAA shot put champ since his freshman year and has been the state runner up the past two seasons.
He's six three, 220 pounds.
And they said he's just starting to hit his growth spurt.
just getting there.
Just getting there.
And he wants to play college football.
A sports writer named Al Carrey said Ramsey is definitely a college prospect.
He's a super stud in that he can bench press 260 pounds and runs a 4-640.
That's a good 40 time for alignment.
That's a super stud.
He can also play any position on the team that will surely help when the colleges start coming around, obviously.
So December 13th.
1978 here.
He is on the All Parish Dream Team.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
He's on the team.
It's an all-star dream team, they're calling it.
He's on the squad.
He has finest, huh?
Yep, they say he's a top prospect,
was named MVP on defense for his
consistently outstanding play and contributing
to the Cecilia Bulldogs' fine season,
their best in school history.
They shared the 5 AAA title with St. Martinville,
also ending the year with a 9-1 record.
So they're saying that he stands out.
Track and field and everything else, he's great.
Now, right under that, again, go where the action is.
Where's that?
Sure.
Senior Ellie's Club.
That's where it is in St. Martin'sville.
How many tons of AC do they have?
Well, I'm not sure about how many tons of AC they have, but it says they have rain in all big letters.
What?
Rain is four guys, and it says, quote, a tribute to the Beatles.
Oh.
They have a Beatles cover band playing.
they're playing 10 p.m. till, I guess that means till they close.
Till when we're done.
That's right.
Admission's $5.
And they have a bunch of like, they have a bunch of testimonials about the band.
Like, remember the old movie commercials where they got people coming out of the movies?
And they'd be like, it was great.
It was so exciting.
That's what they have.
They have, here's.
I miss those.
Here's Ray Wagner from North Hollywood, California.
Rain plays Beatle music better than any band could.
possibly play in the short and short of the Beatles.
Oh.
Mike McCormick from the Calabassa Mineshaft, literally.
What?
That's where the GM of the Calabasasas a Calabasa Mike shaft,
mind shaft said rain sound is indistinguishable from the original recordings.
Shut the fuck up.
Indistinguishable.
You've heard Paul McCartney?
Same thing.
Plus they create live energy that the Beatles would if they were
on tour.
They're just not available.
The Beatles see, they're just filling in
for him. They're just not on tour.
You know, Paul McCartney's got the wings at this
point, and John's fucking
naked in a fetal position
with Yoko, oh no, it's, things are getting
weird.
George is trying.
Do you really want that, that they
do an amazing impression and do their
material? Like, Jay Moore goes
up and does Christopher Walkin, but he doesn't
recite walking in a movie.
He does, he creates a
stupid scenario and then it fills it in
with Warkin. If you edited it out
Christopher Wacken from Pulp Fiction and had
Jay Moore tell the, watch up
the ass story, it wouldn't work.
No. It wouldn't work. That's the point.
It's more than just the sound.
It's also a vibe.
They were the Beatles for a reason. I mean,
I'm not the biggest Beatles fan. I know you hate the Beatles,
but I fucking hate them. Obviously,
they must have had some charisma or, I don't like
Elvis either, but he must have had some
charisma for people to be that attracted to
it, you know? He must have something. Something works.
Something worked.
Robert Hilburn says a stand-in for the real thing.
Oh.
Tony.
Because we can't afford.
Tony Ray from Performance Magazine said,
it's very eerie to see kids going berserk,
literally screaming and tearing their hair out for songs that the Beatles have never played on stage before.
If you close your eyes.
Okay.
So he's saying kids are tearing their own hair out?
Going crazy for these beetle impersonators.
I don't think so.
Perhaps that's because they want you to stop.
Yeah.
What did you slip in their drinks before they did that?
Tearing their air out.
Jesus.
And finally, Teen Beat Magazine said,
Rain reproduces the Beatles sound so accurately.
You will almost believe you're really listening to the four Liverpool lads.
Okay.
All right.
Minus a couple of them.
Well, yeah.
Well, they wasn't dead yet.
So June 27th, 1979, Dardar is named to the All-State Squad for Ramsey here.
Ramsey for Cecilia Senior High School and starring in football and basketball and track and just doing great.
So, yeah, he's on the All-State team.
He's doing awesome.
He's killing it.
And people started to get to know him across the country.
The coaches, he grew to six foot five.
Now he's 6.5, 2.30 is a junior.
Wow.
Yeah.
He gets scholarship offers from a lot of big schools.
I mean, you name the big school there after him.
He really, I guess the schools that are going after him the hardest.
And a lot of this is regional back then.
Now it's so you recruit from everywhere because you get, there's video now and shit.
You know the kids rather than just knowing the ones in your region.
Whereas back then, it was very regional.
You know what I mean?
These schools felt like they owned these regions and could recruit from exclusive.
It is very interesting that they do that now, that they recruit everywhere.
Yeah.
Because it's kind of gross.
It's all, it's not, it's just so, it's the internet.
I mean, they can, you know what I mean?
They can get anywhere.
But at this point, Oklahoma and Houston preferred him, pursued him the hardest because he's in Louisiana, which is close by.
So, and they were really after him, but didn't quite work here for them.
So Dar-Dar said that another recruiter that he's talking about, a guy named Charles McClendon here,
or I'm sorry, Charlie Peavy said he recruited me with delicate hands.
I was leaning to Oklahoma and Houston.
There were quite a few teams trying to get me, but everybody at my high school,
including my high school coach, wanted me to go take.
LSU.
So I chose LSU.
So Louisiana State he's going to here.
He enrolls in 79 to play defensive tackle.
Before the season even starts, he hurts some cartilage and ligaments in his knee.
So he was sent to the JV team to rehabilitate his shit.
He made it back to the double A of high school.
Go to AAA now and get your shit together.
So he made it back to the varsity team.
But he never played in a game.
year and criticized his defensive line coach, Lynn LeBlanc, for convincing him during team practices that he would be playing.
So he's like, I practiced hard and I didn't even play.
He told me to practice hard because I'm going to be playing.
He was frustrated by a lack of playing time and said he was determined to play for LSU and not transfer to another school.
Not doing it.
I don't like moving.
So 79 is that year.
There's 7 and 5 LSU here.
and looking at their roster, who's in the NFL,
David Woodley, quarterback.
I remember him.
Was he on the Steelers, I think?
Woodley?
Woodley, David Woodley, quarterback.
A quarterback?
Yeah, David Woodley.
Jesse Hoki Gajon,
Jesse Miles, Carlos Carson,
Orlando McDaniel, the wide receiver.
I've heard of him.
Greg LaFlear.
Oh.
Malcolm Scott.
And that's it.
Okay, those are the, oh, Marcus Quinn, Willie Teal, and Chris Williams.
Those are your NFL-bound people from that team.
Is Greg, what floor?
Is he a coach?
There has been a couple of floors, I know.
He was a tight end.
I'm not sure what he did after that.
So the 80 LSU team goes seven and four here, which isn't that great.
It's just not.
They didn't have seven trillion bowl games back then either.
Same, pretty much the same roster here.
a new quarterback, Alan Risher,
who's going to play in the NFL someday,
or at least get on a team.
Who knows if he actually played any at all.
But there he is.
Now, at the same time here,
at the start of the season of the 80 season,
he was playing right tackle
as a backup to Leonard Marshall.
If you don't know who Leonard Marshall is,
Leonard Marshall is very famous
for almost killing Joe Montana.
1990 NFC championship game, Montana
ducks back as a
L.T. runs by him and never sees a
290 pound Leonard Marshall
rushing with his helmet, right? Going right
between his shoulder pads in the back.
Faring down on him.
Explodes him and injures him for like two years,
basically. I remember
when they were listing his injuries, it was just
like everything. He had like his wrist,
shoulder, neck. He just destroyed
this man's body just in one shot.
Here he had that big chunk of grass
and Steve Young was like picking it out of his helmet
like a
like a monkeys picking bugs off
of each other. So anyway, I guess that when announcing here, he played well in the opening
game of the season against Florida State, and he was named to the first team. And the
LSU head coach said that Dardar had gotten involved in more big plays than Marshall in the
Florida State game. So he's going to start. And Dardar's first game as a starter, they won 21
nothing against Kansas State. And he had seven tackles and blocked a field goal attempt,
which is something the coaches remember.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a big one.
And registered a fourth down quarterback sack at the goal line, which is obviously humongous.
He ended up the season with 97 tackles, nine for losses, and five sacks, which is goddamn good.
Not bad, yeah.
Yeah, really good.
They say Ramsey Dar-Dar leaned against the wall just inside the doorway of the training room in Tiger Stadium.
The six-foot-two, 239-pound defensive tackle stood a full-head.
taller than the bevy of reporters who hovered about furiously jotting down notes.
He said, the coaches said we were good last week, but we had a little bit, we were a little bit, had to be a little bit better this week.
They wanted us to force more big plays, get to the backs behind the line, and make them turn the ball over.
Yeah.
So they say his friendly hazel brown eyes sparkled as he basked in the media limelight.
Take it easy.
Jesus.
When a sports writer told him that.
senior linebacker Lyman White credited him with holding down the line all by himself.
Dar Dar Dar's pearly white teeth flashed and he grinned boyishly.
Yeah.
This guy is jerking off to Dar Dar.
He is just stroking him.
He's just stroking it.
He calmed out.
Right?
Who knows?
Dardar said,
Oh, if I can be as good as he is right now, I'd be happy, ducking his head bashfully.
Lyman's a great player.
All of our linebackers did a great job tonight.
Yeah.
They said that he, you know, he did, the defense was fantastic.
They said that when the game was over, he got a lot of accolades.
One of the guys here, white, I think that's one of the coaches, said,
I think Ramsey Dardar controlled the game early.
I was beginning to wonder if it was going to be a one-man show.
He was everywhere.
He said, I haven't seen the statistics, so I'm not sure how many tackles he had.
I know he's the one that blocked the field goal and recovered the fumble.
He said, I also saw him getting up last from underneath a lot of piles, which means if he didn't make a tackle, he was close.
I'd say he gave a generally enthusiastic effort.
And Dar Dar-Dar said, I just gave it everything I had.
I'm the kind of guy who works as hard as I can.
He said, explain Dar-Dar, a pair of dimples accenting his wide grin.
What the fuck?
The outline of his girthy fucking man meat of pushed up against his shorts.
What fuck are we talking about?
The crevice of his ass, ever so visible.
Ever so visible.
Basketball shorts.
Man.
Oh, shit.
He said, I.
Jesus, he sounds like a gangster from.
Don't be a menace.
Remember that guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm afraid to fuck no guy in his ass.
Wait, what?
What?
The fuck.
Lock me up.
Oh, wait a key.
So he said, I push myself.
I'm just going to give it all I've got every game.
So he's going to.
do it. Although his style of play
was somewhat unorthodox, the big defensive
lineman made six tackles, caught runners
from behind, or behind
the line twice for a net loss of six
yards in his appearance against Florida State.
And he said, I think my technique was better
this week following the Kansas State
victory. It was kind of our job
to knock the linemen off so the linebackers
could come through.
He's doing great. They said that
he almost, at one point,
they kept going left on the goal
line, and we thought they would come right down.
right on fourth down, but the left side was ready.
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Okay.
Wow.
So he's doing great.
He kicks ass.
He said that they said that he ran through the line and so fast that he said he wasn't sure that he made the sack.
He said, I looked up to see what happened to the running back,
but then I looked down and saw the quarterback lying on the ground and heard the crowd go crazy,
and I knew that I had him.
He didn't realize he had it.
He's like, who'd I fucking tackle?
I thought I was just blocking.
Shit, all right, this guy.
After talking to a dozen newspaper reporters
and doing three television interviews,
including a live feed by a local station,
Dar-Dar headed out of the training room,
still dressed in his football pants and a t-shirt.
The strapping, sexy, exciting,
20-year-old bro bridge product
was favoring his right ankle,
as he limped across the,
room, easily the last player to leave. One of the three or four remaining reporters asked him if
his ankle was okay. He said, yeah, I'm all right. He said with a smile. I hurt it in practice this
week, but I'm okay. Reaching the door, he turned back to the handful of reporters and said,
quote, it was real nice meeting, y'all. See you later. Oh, he's a wonderful man here.
Oh, you have this reporter lick my ankle? He's going to, he's going to just, you want to come home with me and just
massage it and rub oils on it and salves all night?
Suck it all better.
Yeah, no shit.
So October 23rd, 1980, it says LSU's Dar-Dar, a tale of two cities.
Okay, that is Bro Bridge, which is B-R-E-A-U-X, which I assume is Brow or Bro.
That's bro, right?
It's bro, I would think, yeah.
Bro Bridge or Cecilia here.
They say there's a controversy brewing at LSU.
Is Ramsey, is it Ramsey Dar-Dar from Bro Bridge or Ramsey Dar-Dar from Cecilia?
who cares is my question.
They both want to claim him apparently.
Oh, got it.
He said, I live in Bro Bridge, but because the bus routes, I went to Cecilia, so I can understand why fans get so mad.
Cecilia and Bro Bridge are big rivals.
Oh, God.
So that's why.
That's some local horseshit.
1981, the LSU Tigers here, they are 3-7-1, which is not good.
Yes.
That is fucking bullshit.
bad here.
Powerhouse.
Wow.
That is not good.
I'm looking at their
their roster, too.
I'm not picking up anybody
that's spectacular on here.
Eugene Daniel,
I think he played for the cults
defensive back, I'm pretty sure.
That's about it.
So I guess
Dar-Dar and Marshall
are starters at defensive tackle
going into the 81 season.
And so he's all
happy to be here.
after they lost their first two games,
both to top five teams, Alabama and Notre Dame.
That's a tough schedule.
You get two top five teams in your first fucking month of the season.
Jesus Christ, or first two games?
Who the fuck made that, you make your own schedule.
What are you doing?
Why are you doing that?
How it goes, man.
They announced that Dardar would play at both
noseguard and defensive tackle,
but would spend most of his time at Nosegard now.
So they're moving them around a little bit.
So he had a good year that year.
He recorded 70s.
tackles,
14 for a loss,
recovered four fumbles,
blocked two field goals.
Jesus.
At the end of the season,
he was included on the
all-Louisiana
collegiate first team
by the Louisiana
Sports Writers Association.
1982,
LSU Tigers,
eight and three.
There we go.
Eight three and one,
sorry.
How'd they do that?
They're 11th
in the final polling.
Not bad.
They got a new
quarterback, Alan Risher.
That's one thing.
Maybe that help.
Oh, Dalton Hilliard
came
Remember him?
Oh, that's big, so yeah.
Dalton Hilliard was great for the Saints for years.
A little tiny fucker, nasty, fast little shit was great on Super Tecmo Ball.
Awesome.
Turn it around.
He was good.
Yeah, I definitely remember him.
Eric Martin, Herman Fontano at wide receiver.
There's a few guys now I've heard of getting in the mix here.
A few guys that actually, like I remember actually playing in the league, which is helpful, I guess here.
So by 1982, his senior season, he increased his weight to 255 pounds.
He came in at 220 his freshman year. Now he's 255.
Packed on 35. And he took 0.2 seconds off his 40-yard dash time.
Got heavy and ran faster and heavier.
Wow.
And he became more physical and obviously was better with his technique.
That year, LSU beat Alabama for the first time in 12 years.
Awesome.
Holding them to 132 yards of total offense.
and the Associated Press named Ramsey
and the other members of the LSU Front Seven collectively
as the defensive linemen of the week.
Incredible.
Everybody.
Dardar said that was one of the best games of my career at LSU.
LSU hadn't beaten Alabama since 1970.
That day there, everybody was screaming all over the place.
We're shaking hands with one of the greatest coaches ever,
and he's telling us you guys are a bunch of gangbangers.
It's fucking
Bear Bryant said to him?
Bear Bryant.
Bear Bryant's an old
cunt.
Fuck him.
Why would he say that?
Because he's an old
fucking racist asshole
and he lost.
Yeah, that's why.
He's fucking Alabama's coach.
He's an old fart
and he's fucking angry
that LSU beat him.
That's why.
Fuck that guy.
What a little bitch.
You guys are a bunch of gangbangers.
He is.
He's a dude,
yeah, because he doesn't have to do
all the shit he's telling his players to do
all this fucking,
you know,
whatever that stupid fucking movie was about him.
there was a movie about him
Yeah, what's that fucking movie
Where it's the
I can't remember what the fuck
Is it?
Is it McConaughey?
Did McConaughey do it?
I always remember the Titans
Wasn't he in that one?
I don't remember which movie it is
We are Marshall
There you go
There's a movie about
The whole Bear Brian
And it's in the summer
That he was there
And told everybody
They were playing both ways
And no water
And it's 180 degrees
That's I think it was like
On ESPN or some shit
In like the late 90s
It was like a big fucking
movie.
So anyway.
Tom Barringer played him?
That was coming out of my mouth next.
It's fucking Tom Barringer played him.
That's right.
Jake Taylor himself fucking straps up for that shit.
Jake Taylor's in here telling us to run both ways.
If you've seen platoon, he'd be good at it because he was, you know what I mean?
Like he could do that.
So the team finishes 8-2-1, goes to the Orange Bowl against Nebraska, where Ramsey Dardar is
lined up opposite Dave Rimmington, who is the Cornhusker Center and was winning his second
Outland Trophy, which is for the nation's best interior offensive lineman. I believe he was drafted in the
top, definitely the top 10 by Cincinnati, I want to say, Rimmington, maybe 84 draft. So the,
or 83 draft, I think it was. Cornhuskers, way ahead of Dan Marino, I believe. So I can't
remember what draft it was. The Cornhuskers gained 218 rushing yards.
in a 21 to 20 victory,
but the head coaches of both teams
praised Ramsey's play
and noted that Remington did not dominate the matchup.
And he was definitely not even questioned
Best Center in college going right to the NFL to start.
And he's not dominating him.
Dardar was named first team all-SEC noseguard
by both the Associated Press and the UPI,
United Press International,
and the Touchtown Club of Atlanta
recognized him as its SEC
defensive linemen of the year.
Wow.
So he's killing it.
By the end of his senior year,
he was ranked in the top five
in career sacks and school history as well.
So while he is also there,
he meets his future wife while at LSU.
Oh.
A young lady named Lorraine,
they'll later be married
and have three children,
one of them being James Ramsey Dar-Dar, Jr.
Absolutely.
You know what's going to happen.
Yep.
while at LSU, this is when he started using some weed recreationally.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't blame you.
And even try a little coke down there, too.
Oh.
Yeah, they have those fucking parties and shit and, you know, boosters and stuff.
And you get you a little coke on there.
See, a little rich guy's going to get you hooked up.
Now, 1983, here comes the draft.
Couldn't be a better time to come out of college.
Oh.
The two best times to come out of college in football were 83 through 85.
and the early years of the
AFL, like, you know, 61, 62
to 67 when they started
talking about merging and that's when they stopped sniping
each other so much. But this was
where every player
was a war. Every player
was a war. You'd get drafted by
both leagues and then field competing
offers. Like,
yeah, it's incredible. Nowadays, if the
Bengals fucking draft you, you're
going to play for the Bengals unless you're
sorry about it. A number one pick that has the
power to whatever. But otherwise, if you get
pick 12th by the Bengals.
You're going to the fucking Bengals.
Whereas back then...
The community's going to love you.
Back then you go, well, maybe the Denver gold drafted me too.
Maybe I'll go play there instead.
And you check out your offers.
So the 83 USFL draft was on January 4th, 83.
So that was to get a jump on the NFL draft, which is until April.
So that way they could try to sign the guys and go, well, you don't want to take your chance, you know.
So there's 24 rounds.
First overall selection, by the way.
Number one draft pick, USFL draft 1983.
Jimmy.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that was that guy that played for the Eagles.
No.
Was it not Randall Cunningham?
83.
And it wasn't John Elway because they knew Elway wasn't going here.
Yeah.
They do draft Dan Marino first overall, though.
Is that right?
He was first.
First overall by the Los Angeles Express.
He must be doing great now.
right? Because you never see him anymore.
No, he made incredible money doing football.
He was isotone or spokesman for years and years and a couple other big things.
And then he was also on inside the NFL or whatever the fuck.
He was on like a TV show for like 30 years.
Like I think he did very well for himself.
And now he just.
Oh, well, that's why.
Dan Marino has liver disease.
That, yeah, I remember he had something.
That'll do it.
Yeah.
Those guineas from Pittsburgh, like to tie one on once in a while.
Maybe that's what it was.
I'm not sure.
I can't imagine that guy's not drinking heavy, right?
I knew in college he was.
That was the reason why he went lower is because it was all reports of him doing all this shit.
And when the Steelers looked into him, they said, he likes a beer like anybody else.
They said he likes to party, but he's not a drug addict or anything.
He likes girls and he likes fucking, you know, have some beers with his teammates type of guy.
Tim Spencer, Reggie Collier, Craig James, you know him the announcer for years and years, Craig James.
White guy.
Yeah, does college stuff for 30 years.
It was on ESPN and everything else.
Craig James for the Federals, which is a very funny story because the Federals,
if you can check out Jeff Proman's book, it's in that, the football for a buck.
But the Federals had drafted him, and then the agents were fucking with them about signing.
And, like, there was a press conference to introduce him as their number one draft pick
and to have him come out and hold the jersey and all that.
They had a team press conference, and he still wasn't signed.
And basically, they were renegotiating right there going,
You're going to go tell all your reporters that your first draft pick?
Because this is the opening inaugural year that you can't fucking sign even though you told everyone that he signed in the back.
And so they ended up giving him what he wanted because they had no choice.
Gary Anderson, who went on to play for, I believe, Tampa Bay for a while.
Eric Dickerson by the Arizona Wranglers, who never played there, obviously.
Irv Eatman, David Greenwood, Tremaine Johnson.
These are the guys who actually signed.
Bart Oates, the later on long-time Giants Center, signed with Philadelphia.
But so many of these guys were also first-round NFL draft picks that year.
And they signed with the NFL.
You're Michael Haddicks and guys like that.
Who else is here?
Yeah, Ramsey Dardar.
Bobby A-Bair, number 34 overall by the Michigan Panthers,
who played for the Saints for a long time.
But number 27 overall here in round number three,
because there's only 12 picks per round here.
So opening or the third pick of the third round.
New Jersey generals, my favorite team as a child that I grew up with there,
draft Ramsey Dar-Dar.
So there he is, New Jersey.
What's he playing for them?
Do we even know?
A defensive line.
But he doesn't sign with them.
No?
This we'll talk about it.
He's going to wait for the NFL draft because he thinks he's got something popping here.
And he might be a better draft position.
83 is a stacked draft, though.
Stacked.
You can watch that from Elway to Marino documentary on ESPN.
It's incredible that documentary.
It's a 30 for 30, I think.
Really, really good explains how deep it was and how, you know,
it was a major, major draft.
Who else?
I'm looking at the whole draft here.
Leonard Marshall.
Wow.
Leonard Marshall was drafted in the 10th round by Tampa Bay.
Wow.
He ended up being a star for a long time in the NFL.
Well, not bad.
Who else?
Okay.
So Dar Darr said that he was hesitant to report to a USFL training camp since they started so soon after the end of college football because it's a spring league.
Right.
The general signed Herschel Walker as a free agent.
Hey.
The team gave up on negotiating with Dar-Dar and all of their top four draft picks.
Okay. Herschel Walker.
Yeah.
They just signed him.
There was no, and the way they did the USFL, if you were going to, they, nobody would draft a guy who would be better somewhere else.
Oh.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they'll let, they made little deals like you could draft him because you might actually be able to sign him.
So you draft that guy.
Because we've got a starter and you don't, you need a starter.
Also, he might sign with you.
Like Rozier with Pittsburgh, the running back signed with them.
Because even though someone else had draft position and wanted him, they made a deal to say, let us draft him because he's not going to sign with you and where his local team will sign here.
So it's interesting.
So March 3rd, 1983, they say top picks get short shrift, shrift from generals.
Whatever happened to all those big-name players, the generals drafted with such fanfare.
Whatever happened to Arkansas running back Gary Anderson, SMU safety, West Hopkins, West Virginia linebacker Darrell Talley, long-time Bill Star.
LSU defensive N. Ramsey Dar-Dar. The generals were very successful in signing their later selections.
Yeah, because they're just excited to be drafted. But those first four picks were nearly forgotten as soon as the draft ended.
Anderson, who's expected to be a receiver in the pros, was flown to New Jersey for a big bash at the Meadowlands and Generals,
Coach Chuck Fairbanks explained how Anderson was going to be a significant part of our passing game.
That's the last anybody heard of Anderson.
The generals admit they've given up on trying to sign any of those high picks.
The team's GM said, as far as we're concerned, at this late stage, there isn't any chance we'll get together.
We're not negotiating with draft choices at this time.
Wow.
Anderson's agent, Gene Burrow, who works with Dr. Jerry Argavitz, who, by the way, ended up buying
the, he bought, I believe he's the LA Express owner after a while.
He's the guy who signed Steve Young.
To a deal that Steve Young still gets paid for, by the way.
Steve Young still gets like a million dollars a year from his USFL deal.
Smart moves, huh?
Yeah, it was an annuity he signed.
It was like a small salary with a big annuity.
And that's what it was.
It was like a $40 million deal.
After football pay.
Smart?
Yeah, it was, yeah, he was smart shit.
He came from like a well-off Mormon family too, so he didn't like need the money.
He wasn't getting his mom out of a, you know, out of the shack with a dirt floor or anything.
I got to get my mom a toilet.
Nobody, he wasn't that.
No, he was from a very, it's a Mormon family, right?
Yeah, they're descendants of Brigham Young.
Oh, really?
Yeah, they're like a real hardcore.
But he grew up in California, though, which is strange.
Well, you got to go save those people.
Yeah, I believe it was California.
He grew up.
Got to save them from the wilds.
of the ocean and bikinis.
So, yeah, they said, frankly, it was disappointing, Burroughs said.
They just never seemed interested in Gary Anderson.
We went to them with an offer and they never got back to us with a counteroffer.
They also said, maybe Herschel got all the loot.
That's pretty much what it was here.
And it was, too, because they signed Herschel Walker for way more money than they said
they were planning to give anybody ever.
But they got a chance to get the best running back and they got him.
That was it.
So they said
One of the players said
I was excited about the new league
But when it came time for negotiations
Well there weren't any
It was a take it or leave it offer
I was disappointed because I thought the USFL
Would be a great opportunity
Now this is what we have for you
1983 NFL draft
I don't have to ask you who number one overall is
Because I'm pretty sure you know
John Elway with the Baltimore Cults
Who he never signs with
Fuck that
Not a goddamn chance I'm playing there
And he gets traded with
gets traded for the number four pick Chris Hinton,
who Denver selected a tackle and goes back and forth.
Number two overall, Jimmy, who is it?
Oh, boy, who went number two?
It's a Hall of Fame.
Is it another quarterback?
No, it's not.
No, it's a running back.
There are three Hall of Fame quarterbacks in this,
in this round, but none of them are at number two.
It's Eric Dickerson.
Yeah, there's the running back.
And then running back Kurt Warner with a C,
that Kurt Warner for the longtime Seahawks running back there.
number three. They wanted Dickerson
but got Kurt Warner. So that's
what you get. Chris Hinton, Billy Ray Smith,
Jimbo Covert, the Hall of Famer with the Bears.
Todd Blackledge, number seven, quarterback
for Kansas City. They could have had Jim Kelly,
they could have Dan Marino. They could have Ken O'Brien,
who was a good quarterback. They got
Todd Blackledge.
Yikes. And if you watch...
Not great. Not good at all.
Let's see. He played
shit.
Let's see. He has 29
career touchdowns, 38 career
interceptions. That's how he played.
Oh, no.
Not good.
Is that how he played?
He basically played the last two years of, or the last
three years of Russell Wilson's career.
Pretty much. That's his whole career.
He played at Penn State and Penn State.
The team was really good and he was known as a winner.
And he was one of those guys known as a winner, but he might not have the big arm or
all that. Well, in the NFL you need all that shit.
He didn't have any other.
He's got hard.
Yeah.
Oh, Chris Berman, you listen to him on the draft saying he thinks he's going to be the best,
could be the best quarterback in the draft.
Todd Blacklidge.
Well, I've met Chris Berman.
That man's an alcoholic.
Yeah.
And he must have been hitting it hard.
He was drinking that day.
Yeah.
Hall of Fame.
I don't know if he's an alcoholic.
That's a wild accusation.
I know that I met him and he was fucking hammered.
I heard he likes to tie one on here and there.
Oh, boy, was he drinking?
Nine overall, Houston Oilers, Bruce Matthews Hall of Fame Guard.
Then Terry Kinnard, the Giants, longtime defensive back there,
Tim Lewis for the Green Bay Packers.
Number 14 overall, Buffalo selects Jim Kelly,
who absolutely did not want it.
He said the only team I'm not going to is fucking Buffalo.
He goes, I'm not living and fucking playing in that cold shit.
He's from Pittsburgh.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm not playing in Buffalo.
I want to go somewhere warm because he played in Miami in college
because he wanted to go somewhere warm and then Buffalo drafts.
Well, now that we've been there, we know for certain there's no fucking way any of them lived there.
They don't know.
We know that.
We found out that for sure.
too talking to people.
So yeah, Jim Kelly ended up signing with the Houston Gamblers and then coming back and coming to Buffalo once the USFL folded there.
And then finally at the end of the round, two Hall of Famers are the last two picks of the draft.
Two Hall of Famers, Dan Marino and Darrell Green, the defensive back for Washington.
Great choices, yeah.
Rimmington was number 25 overall, by the way.
Two picks before Marino.
Vernon Maxwell, not that one, started.
was the first pick of the second round.
A football, a linebacker named Vernon Maxwell from Arizona State of all places.
Hall of Famer Roger Craig, number 49 overall.
Not bad, getting him in the middle of the second round.
What a lucky career for that guy.
You got to stick around in the fucking Bay Area's whole career.
Yeah, and just come right into an excellent San Francisco team that wins a Super Bowl the next season.
Not too shabby at all.
Now finally, and the third round, number 71 overall,
Ramsey Dar-Dar selected by the St. Louis Cardinals.
Really?
Same thing with Robert Rozier, defensive lineman St. Louis Cardinals.
Interesting, right?
They pick him.
Wow.
Notoriously the cheapest beside them in Cincinnati, the two cheapest.
Least valuable in the NFL we found out.
Yes, absolutely.
No one cares.
Yeah.
Well, this Jo-Jowns.
A lot of names, you know, just hanging around this fucking draft.
So April 27th, 1983, St. Louis Post Dispatch, Big Red coaches like Dar Dar Dar's confidence game.
Yeah.
Is he a scam artist?
He's a confidence game.
Yeah, he's a confidence man.
Confidence man.
So Dar Dar Dar Dar Cytid, they said here, okay.
They said that, no, they're not playing name games by drafting defensive linemen in the third and fourth rounds named Dar Dar Dar and Duda.
Yes, it did make for some good-natured kidding during a long day.
The coach said, I'm sure Floyd will get that all fouled up.
He's an assistant coach of Floyd to, oh, that's assistant coach Floyd Peters, and says,
Dardar and Duda, do diss that way, he said.
The players in question are Dardar and Mark Duda.
Dardar contributed to the fun.
Being a senior at LSU and a native of Cecilia, Louisiana,
Adar asked if he knew where the Big Red would open the national football league season.
And he said, London, having heard from the coaches that there's an exhibition opener with the Vikings that might be played in England in August.
Wow.
Yeah.
So he says that...
They've been trying to get that shit going for that long.
Yep.
That's it.
It's not...
They've been trying forever.
And then they had the World Football League in 90.
They really have been trying to spread it.
It just doesn't...
It's not as natural other places.
Perhaps it's because not everybody has a fucking TV, right?
Not a TV, not a football.
It's not natural.
Soccer, you can get one ball and 50 guys and fucking kick it around.
You can get a basketball.
Everybody takes a hoop and one ball for everybody.
Football is more, just seems more specialized and complicated.
Yeah, you got to have a fucking yardstick.
There's also violence involved.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's distances.
There's also violence involved, too, which is different.
So the other sports don't really have that.
But anyway, the opening games at the Louisiana Superdome,
and he said, that will be great.
My people will get a chance to see me.
And he said, I think on the type of player like Freddie Dean, or Fred Dean,
I'm fast and quick and I've got good football sense.
He said, I played tackle like Fred Dean played for San Francisco 49ers a couple years ago.
At least that's what I've been told.
So the coach said, I like his confidence.
And I could use somebody in there on the nose to lift up the center and get in there.
Really lift it up and get it deep in there.
Lift up the middle.
Just lift it up and really just plunge deeply.
So that's what they're talking about here.
And he says that I played against Rimmington in the Orange Bowl.
He's the biggest guy I ever went against as far as bulk.
And I think I had a good game.
The scouts got real high on me after that game.
I did a darn good job, I thought.
So he said he's ready for the NFL.
So they sign him here.
Don't know exactly what they sign him to,
but they sign him to a contract.
Finally, soon after arriving at training camp, he suffers a knee injury that causes him to miss most of training camp.
Dar-Dar, don't do that.
Don't do that, Dardar.
He was placed on the injured reserve list just prior to the 83 season, and that's dat.
And that's dat?
That's dat for him for this year.
Dardar, that's that.
That's that, Dardar.
Wow.
December 30th, 1983, Dardar.
Dar-Dar here
will be switched
to offensive guard
from defensive tackle.
They said that he has the size,
speed, and strength
to play guard
because your guards have to be fast
because they pull a lot,
they got to stay ahead
of the running backs
and all that kind of shit.
So they said they're,
they think they can do it.
They're fairly set
at defensive tackle,
so they think this is a better place
for Dar-Dar.
The coach disclosed
his decision on Dar-Dar
in response to a question
about the draft
when he was asked
if the club would be looking
for help on the offensive line.
And he said, quote, I just drafted
one today from the defense.
Ramsey Dar-Dar.
There's my offensive lineman. He said, that was the first
thing I did this morning. We had our draft
right there. Move that guy.
Now, while
with the Cardinals,
rather than becoming
just enthralled with learning
all the plays in the offensive line,
which are totally different and backwards and
all this type of shit, he
delves into a different hobby.
getting severely addicted to crack.
That's what he's into instead.
Very addicted to crack.
That's what he's doing.
Yeah.
That's not going to rehab you much at all, really.
Not really.
It's not going to help much.
You'll feel great, but you're not going to perform well.
He went to his first drug rehab during his time with the Cardinals,
but the drugs were so readily available in the early 80s in the league.
Yeah.
I mean, this was the time we did the Pittsburgh.
thing. We did a Patreon on the Pittsburgh
8 and all that thing. And literally
there was every city in the goddamn
country. There was
high roller fans that
knew people and had connections that would have
big parties for players with giant
mountains of Coke. I mean
this was just everyone was dying to give these
guys coke back then. Huge.
So 84 Cardinals are
9 and 7, which is pretty goddamn
good for the Cardinals in the
fucking really at any time
here. So
I'm looking at their roster here.
I don't know for playoffs?
No, no playoffs back then, no, because there's no, the wild, there's less teams.
Roy Green, I remember him, yeah, guys like that.
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We're guys like that.
Greg LaFleur. There you go.
He's a tight end.
Hey.
There he is from LSU.
Neil Lomax, a quarterback.
Jesus, he was around that early.
Yeah, 81 they drafted him.
Fuck, I didn't realize that.
Okay, that makes sense.
So Neil Lomax is a quarterback.
December 20th, 1984,
player report cards from the St. Louis dispatch.
They give Ramsey Dardar a C.
Oh, that's not bad.
They say a one-dimensional player.
Dardar was.
used primarily as the running
downs tackle after Mark Duda
was injured. Didn't make a lot of big
plays but got a lot from his ability.
Because they never moved
in an offensive line. He ended up playing defensive line
anyway.
Like I said, if he didn't
get the playbook down right away or anything,
they just say, fuck it, go.
Defensive line's the easiest position
on the field.
That's the one where I said,
I can't remember who it was, but there was a guy
who didn't know right from left, and they had to
right R and L on his shoes because that's all he had to do is know which way the play was going
whether he was going right or left.
So he plays in all 16 games, starts six of them.
So not terrible.
But September 3rd, 85, the end of training camp of the 85 season, the Cardinals waive
defensive lineman Ramsey Dar Dar-Dar.
He's gone?
He's waived.
Yep.
Then February 11, 86, the New York Giants signed Ramsey Dar-Dar.
He was a teammate of Leonard Marshalls at LSU, so that might have helped here.
So he spent his rookie season on the injured reserve, and he's ready to go.
August 12, 1986, in the middle of training camp, Giants cut 10, Dar-Dar goes.
He's cut by the Giants.
Which sucks because in the 86, the Giants won the Super Bowl and had a really fucking awesome year.
They were great that year.
All that did you do is perform.
Oh, they were great that year.
So especially that defense, it's a crazy good defense.
defense. So they cut 10 free agents, including Ramsey Dar-Dar, to cut their roster down. So that's
that. They said they got all these evaluations and had to get the pink slip. They said,
Dar-Dar who missed two weeks of training camp because of a knee injury, seems to have a pesky
knee injury that keeps coming up, was the most notable of the players let go because he was a third
round draft choice just a couple years ago. And the giant signed him. And Bill Parcell said,
I think there's a chance he can be picked up.
We had a lot of depth that nose tackle,
and I didn't think he had enough talent
to beat out the guys we had.
They had some goddamn good players.
Their defense was fucking stacked back then.
You could count back the last several Super Bowls,
and the ones that are the best games,
someone's got an amazing defense,
or both teams have an amazing defense.
Something.
And the Giants had Jim Bert and Jerome Sally at that position.
They had Eric Housie.
Howard, who was their second round draft pick.
And the, you know, a lot of guys.
The last time there was just like an actual blowout of just points being poured on.
Yeah.
Probably the Cowboys, huh?
Was it that long ago?
Cowboys bills, you're talking about?
Yeah.
I mean, trying to think if there had to be a blowout since then.
There's, I'm sure.
I mean, the Broncos blew out Carolina, but that was, that was on defense.
That wasn't offense.
Yeah, there was a couple.
I think, but they weren't like.
Manning didn't even have
100 yards of offense that game.
Not a lot of 55-10
Niners Broncos, 89 Super Bowl
happening, yeah, that kind of shit.
Was it Washington, Denver that was that?
Was that, did Washington blow out?
Washington blew out Denver.
Then the next year, San Francisco,
oh, no, the next year was San Francisco, Cincinnati.
Then San Francisco beat the shit out of the Broncos
like 5510.
And then Giant Bill's was the next one after that.
Yeah, that was a bad one.
I cried watching sports.
That was a bad day.
I remember that.
This is supposed to have.
Definitely going for the Broncos.
I was like, this is bad.
This is really ugly.
April 25th, 1987.
This is fucking crazy.
Ramsey Dar-Dar Jr.
Ramsey Dar-Dar Jr.,
the at this point, two-year-old son of Ramsey-Dar-Dar-Signor,
was struck by a car in a parking.
lot and killed.
There's no more Dard R too?
No more, no.
No, gone.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, there is, uh, just as Randy Darry.
Two years old?
Two years old.
Two years and a month, he made it.
Oh.
That is bad shit.
I don't think you want to do crack, right?
I mean, yeah, sure.
And he said it was a bitter pill to swallow.
At that time, I was in the middle of my drug addiction.
I felt like I was guilty that this happened.
This tragedy happened.
I felt like I let my wife down, my other kid down.
My wife was pregnant at the time.
It brought a lot of pain.
Did he run him over?
I don't think he ran him over.
He was just in charge of him.
He was struck by a car in a parking lot.
Yeah.
So, 1987, May 13th, he is signed.
He gets another chance.
Yeah.
Houston Oilers sign him.
Is that right?
To go from Louisiana State.
it would make sense that region.
They'd like him there.
So September 1st, 87, though,
he's placed on injured reserve again.
He got hurt again.
He's hurt again.
Don't know what's wrong with him,
I believe, his knee,
and then he's waived again.
So that's that.
He's waived.
Done.
September 1st, he's hurt.
October 7th, he's waived.
Wow.
That's it.
So they welcome a girl.
Deniza.
Denesia
Durkwell
Denesia Durkwell
Is there
That's her middle name?
Yeah
Durkwell is the middle name
Mr. and Mrs.
Ramsey Dar-Dar here
December 16th
1987
Funeral services are held
For his dad
Murphy Dar-Dar
Now his dad's dead
Too
Fuck
About seven, eight months
After his son dies
His dad's dead too
That's a tough year
He is having it tough, man.
December 15, 1988.
He is in trouble here.
Ramsey James Dar-Dar, 29, pleads guilty to issuing worthless checks worth less than $100.
He's right.
He's made no money.
Yeah.
I mean, I guarantee you, third round draft pick for the Cardinals, he made nothing from them.
Nothing.
So he is, he's got no money.
He's throwing out useless checks at the moment.
Yep. The charge was amended from an original charge of issuing worthless checks in excess of $500.
He received one year's probation, must make restitution, totaling $2,013.24, pay $850 to the Worthless Checks Bureau and a $500 court cost and fine here.
That's terrible.
So February 20, 1989, a Louisiana couple sued by a Beaumont car dealer,
ship and a Kirbyville woman Thursday in connection with the traffic death of their two-year-old son.
Yeah.
Okay.
Ramsey Dar-Dar Jr. died April 25, 87 when he ran into College Street and was struck by a car.
According to police reports, the accident occurred while the boy's mother and a female friend were looking at new cars at a Heritage Lincoln Mercury dealer.
So much for parking lot.
He ran into the fucking rude.
They were in a parking lot.
Police said the boy wandered off into blocked off lanes of college street under construction at the time.
The friend spotted the boy and went after him, but he turned away and ran in front of a car traveling west in the opened lanes of the street.
Wow.
Oh, my God.
Because you baby like that, you're like, don't run.
And then they turn and run.
Fuck.
Oh, my God.
It's like dealing with a dog outside that doesn't want to listen.
Oh, my God.
parents filed suit in state district court against Heritage Auto World and Joyce Booker Barnett
of Kirbyville, the driver of the car that struck the toddler.
The Dardars contended in the lawsuit here that the child was sitting on the grass near the
construction barricades when the friends called him, according to the lawsuit.
He began running parallel to the traffic.
They said an employee of Heritage Auto World began running toward the little boy and it forced
him to run into the lane of traffic.
He was scared.
Yeah, he doesn't know this guy.
And it's a two-year-old.
It's a game at this point.
Now we're playing tag.
He's chasing me.
I'll run away.
Yeah, but also that person that's chasing, running towards him, is just terrified that that kid's about to get run over.
Yeah, he's like, holy shit.
I got to get this.
And maybe that'll get me a sale.
I scoop your kid up out of traffic.
Buy a fucking car from me.
I got a lot of today.
Bill Cooper, general manager of Heritage Auto World, said he knew nothing about the case and said, talk to my lawyer, bitch.
1989, March 30th,
Ramsey Dar-Dar was booked Tuesday
on charges of theft and forgery.
He's accused of, again,
writing a worthless check to a service station
and forging a check stolen from a construction company.
Now he's ordered held in lieu of $3,000 bond.
So, I mean, from there,
you've got to figure out something to do with yourself, man.
And you really do.
This is fucking crazy.
You can't just keep, you need a job, you need a career.
You got to, yeah.
But how do you, when you're overcome with grief about a toddler dying and your dad and football career's over?
You've got to mourn.
There's a lot going on here.
Well, I think I have a suggestion to cheer him up a little bit.
Sure.
I don't know if you know this, but March is Crawfish Madness Month at the Chateau Charles Hotel, Jimmy.
I didn't even know that.
Join us every Monday through Saturday.
for boiled crawfish serving from 5 p.m. to 10 p.m., 595 per tray, draft beer served by the pitcher.
Hell yeah.
That sounds great.
August 18, 1989 here.
Ramsey Dar-Dar is sentenced for theft and unauthorized use of a movable valued at less than $1,000.
What is that?
Oh, you guess a car or a truck or something?
I guess that bicycle?
Yeah.
Anything movable.
Anything with skateboard.
order to whatever he's got there.
He was placed on you, sir, may fuck off two years probation with special conditions that he
make restitution and pay fines totaling $500 and court costs or serve 60 days in jail and
submit to drug screening and rehabilitation if deemed necessary.
Okay.
So, November of 1989, the article here, the headline is Judge holds hammer over Dar Dar's
head. They said a state judge ordered former LSU and national football league player
Ramsey Dardar to attend substance abuse meetings every day until he's arranged on a charge of
writing worthless checks every day. He said, quote, I've got a big hammer and I'm going to hold it
over your head. Oh, wow. That sounds sexual. Very sexual. I've got a big hammer. You better hope
you don't bend over in front of me is all I'm saying.
right over you.
Wow.
He said,
you're a big man.
You make your own bed.
You're going to sleep in it.
Yeah.
An arraignment had been scheduled Wednesday for Dar-Dar,
who was all-Southeastern conference in his senior year.
The arraignments postponed.
He ordered Dar-Dar to enroll in a Mississippi substance abuse center
and attend Alcoholics Anonymous Meeter, yeah,
alcoholic-anonymous meetings every day until his court date.
Wow.
And he said, why do I want you to do that?
because Dardar is also accused of burglary here as well.
Oh, shit.
He said, so I can get, he said, why do I want you to do that?
And Dardar said, so I can get straight.
And the judge said, if you can't do that, then I'll put you back in the parish prison.
Straighten up.
Above all, the judge said, Dardar should follow the guidance of his wife, who the judge said is trying to help her husband and keep him out of prison.
Yeah, this poor woman's like, we got kids and, you know, funeral.
or anything else.
The judge said she's the best thing you've got going for you because obviously up until this point you don't give a damn about yourself.
Wow, this is some crazy marriage counseling from the judge.
Imagine getting in a fight with her later on.
She's going to whip out a court document going actually a judge.
I bet you're adjudicated the best thing that's ever happened to you.
Right.
I don't have to tell you.
This ass is certified.
So Joe Dardar was booked last March on a charge accusing him of writing a $200 check in August 88, although he knew he didn't have enough funds.
And he was booked last week with burglary.
Police say the charge accuses him of breaking into a city police lieutenant's home on October 1st and stealing weapons.
What?
From a fucking police lieutenant.
He stole weapons.
You idiot.
Oh boy.
What a moron.
Speaking of that, November 30th, 1989, he's in more trouble, as the headline here from the Shreveport Journal says, Dar-Dar is in more trouble.
That's literally what it is.
State District Judge revoked his $25,000 bond, a day after deputies booked him on a new charge of possession of stolen property.
He can't stop stealing shit.
God, Lord.
He's got no money.
He's got to be heartbreaking, man.
He was drafted.
It does.
He's made nothing.
Third rounds, not bad.
Two weeks ago, he was arrested and booked on burglary.
Wow.
His fingerprints were recovered from a broken window where the burglars entered the lieutenant's house and stole weapons in that case.
They got him on fingerprints, for Christ's sake.
At a hearing, McDonald postponed here.
The charge stems from August 88 in which he wrote a $200 service station check.
His arrest Tuesday was his third since March where he was booked with issuing.
a worthless check.
So,
December 15th,
1989,
yeah,
he's all revoked
and he's booked
on a new charge
of possession of stolen
property, like we said.
He's in a lot of shit
again.
Now, this is the actual
official
arraignment and all that.
April 8th,
1980,
wow,
St. Louis Post
Dispatch
getting fucking savage
on him.
Yeah?
Wow.
From hero to zero,
one football
star,
sprint into trouble.
From Hero to Zero reverse
vanilla ice, he just did.
Wow. And sprint to
trouble.
Wow. Ramsey
Dardar had that curious combination that
makes a man a celebrity in football,
a melodic name, bone-breaking
tackle, and an electric
smile. He was a sweet mix of
violence and charm in 1983,
an all-American at Louisiana State.
A poor boy from the Bayou Town of
Cecilia, bound for glory.
Selected in the third round.
Oh, okay, here's some money talk.
Selected in the third round of the National Football League draft.
Dar-Dar lifted weights instead of taking exams.
The payoff, $175,000 from the St. Louis Cardinals.
Adulation from students and alumni, glad hands and backslaps from faces now long forgotten.
Yeah.
When he was dismissed from St. Louis with a knee injury two years later, he had a BMW,
a Dotson 280Z, and a wife and a son named Ramsey Jr.
Nice.
Oh, he's got none of that now.
It's a good life.
Not bad.
In 87, after stints with the giants and oilers, his career ended in a crash of bodies that snapped something in his shoulder.
A month later, Ramsey Jr. was run over in a parking lot and killed.
No, he wasn't.
He was run over in traffic.
Traffic, yeah, not in the parking lot.
Many professional athletes face injuries that end their career.
Many have been foiled by personal tragedies.
Many suffer alcohol and drug problems.
A few are lowered into lives of crime.
So far 522 that we've found.
A whole bunch.
A whole bunch.
Well, not quite that many.
We have multi-parters.
Dar-Dar got it all.
Today, he's 265 pounds of junkie and mooch.
What the...
That is...
That's the name of this show.
Junkie and Mooch.
That's amazing.
Oh, my God.
Thank you, St. Louis Post Dispatch for that title.
Of Junkie and Mooch.
That's very funny.
Of mice and men.
What a terrible way to be summed up.
That is terrible.
Jesus.
You know how trends can be obliterated and destroyed because somebody just comes up with a very beautiful, two words or one phrase and it ruins it all.
Must have quit.
The whole thing, DNA and everything.
He rhymed, though.
It's, you know, telling you.
Junkie and mooch at the same time.
God damn.
Junkie and mooch.
He said he lost all his.
money on bad judgment. He can't find a job. He craves cocaine. Good God. He borrows money from
LSU alumni with aggravating frequency. What else are you going to say? He doesn't like wipe the
toilet when he pisses all over it and he, he parks his car crooked in parking lots. It makes a real
difficult to park. Like what other, you're just picking everything out of it. As an alumni just
kick, I guess he's probably asking for 50, 80 bucks at a time, right? Probably, yeah, for Coke money.
prosecutors say he could face up to 40 years in state prison on charges of burglary theft, possession of a stolen gun, and passing bad checks.
That's if he's convicted of everything and given the maximum all consecutive.
That would be 40 years.
So they never put to do that.
That's ridiculous.
In a saga that makes, quote, everybody's all American, the movie in which Dennis Quaid played a fading LSU football great,
looked like Alice's trip down the rabbit hole.
now 30 he's wondering where all the adulation went
wondering what happened to the safety nets
and that the applause has now faded
he went from a hero to zero
in the time it takes to play a football season
he's got a quote
let's give him it in their own words on this
he's going to try to explain away his problems here
and that's pretty entertaining
so in their own words
quote I'm going to tell you
there's so much drugs in the NFL it's almost
impossible to stay away
It's like eating candy
But nobody made me get on that pipe
Nobody said go smoke cocaine
I did that on my own
And it was the worst thing that could have happened
It makes you unmanageable
Makes you confused
It made me want to kill myself
It did it
There you go
I think that's what in their own words
Was made for
Shit yeah
Is that quote
So he said he had
He had toyed around with drugs as a pro
But didn't get serious about it
Until he got hurt
You know really get into it
Didn't get real serious
about hard illicit drugs.
He said since then he slid deeper and deeper into the hole.
He said drug dealers like to know a guy like me.
They want to get high with me.
They turn me on.
I never had to pay for drugs.
I'm telling you, the sports guys just had so much drugs being thrust at them from every, that was the way in.
That was the way in is, hey, we got a bunch of Coke over here and the guys will go hang out with you for that.
I mean, it was, it's crazy.
He said whenever someone called and said they had a bump for me, I was there.
Wow.
That is crazy.
So clear-eyed and articulate, attentive to their daughter he brought along in court, they're saying, or in this restaurant.
Dardar sat in a restaurant recently to tell his story.
It could have been worse.
Eric Ellington, one of Dardar's teammates at LSU, lives on a sidewalk in Atlanta.
Oh, lovely.
Jesus Christ.
He's got a piece of concrete.
Wow.
Yeah.
Another LSU player who lives in Atlanta and run into Ellington a few times, even loaned him a few dollars, said he looks pitiful, just like a traditional street person.
Take it easy.
Traditional street person.
None of this newfangled street person, hippie shit.
Traditional street person, you know.
He's throwing it back.
Bindle and everything.
He really is a throwback.
Then there's Lawrence Williams, Dardar's friend, another LSU star and former pro, whose residence these days is the Beauregard Parish Prison, where he served.
time for parole violations. At least Dardar has still has a roof over his head, a modest apartment,
notably lacking in LSU memorabilia. He's still got his wife Lorraine and their two children.
He's not in jail yet. His case is scheduled for May. An assistant district attorney said, to put it in
legal language, Ramsey's in Deep Doodoo. Deep Dardar. Deep Dardar. We're not anxious to see that he goes to
jail, but there's a lot of victims out there who have an interest in this case, said an LSU fan
who used to sit next to Dardar's family at Tiger Stadium.
Dar Darr accepts that he's responsible for his fate, but there's a trace of bitterness
toward the LSU community for what's happened to him and some of his teammates.
What?
He said, quote, once you're in the spotlight, you've got a lot of friends, but when you go down,
there's no friends.
They can be so cold, man, they can be so cold.
Because they weren't your friends.
Right.
You were reflecting glory upon them.
That's it.
That's who they are.
Those are fucking called hangers on.
Right.
That's it.
They said,
Some alumni begged to differ.
One guy, Nathan Fisher,
a lawyer and LSU booster,
who's providing free legal help for Ramsey.
So that's one of the advantages,
said so many people have tried to help him.
But every time someone tries to do something for him,
they get burned.
Ramsey's burned so many bridges in this town.
It's just amazing.
Former LSU
coach Jerry Stovall and also a former Cardinals player and now Baton Rouge banker is another source
of Dar Dar Dar's borrowed income. He said, my goodness, Ramsey Dar Dar Dar is one of the most likable
young men you'll ever meet. That's what makes his story so sad. There were once a lot of people from
his hometown, from his high school who wanted to grow up to be like Ramsey Dar Dar Dar and to see
that he's thrown it all away. He trails off there. Yeah, well, that's what makes him so much fun to do
Coke with.
Yeah, I bet he's a real good time.
Dardar talks of the settlement he one day expects from the NFL because of his injury,
but all he has to show for it now is permanently swollen right shoulder.
He said it still hurts, and so does everything else.
He said, quote, I've lost so much, it just blows my mind.
I was once put on a pedestal and brought to nice parties to sign autographs for kids.
I gave my time.
All I want is a little time back.
I don't want their money, but don't get me wrong, the money helps.
What I need is a job.
He is all over the place.
He sounds like a guy who's on Coke.
Yeah, he's everywhere.
He's all over the place.
Don't get me wrong.
The money helps.
I don't want to say don't give me money.
But what I need is a job, I need direction.
It's just become the everyday struggle of life, you know, man?
That's what he says.
You know, man.
After lunch, Dardar pulled from his pocket a notice from the utility company
threatening to turn off his lights unless he could come up with $97.
and $57
cents the next day.
Oh my God.
Jesus.
That was unlikely
considering it took him
five minutes
of fishing around the floor
of his pickup
to find a nickel
so his two-year-old
daughter, Dinesia,
could get a gumball
out of a candy machine.
So he asked
for a moment alone
with another friend
at lunch,
Carlos Hornbrook,
another LSU alumni.
They walked outside together
as Dardar started talking.
He talked and talked
and Hornbrook
finally pulled his
checkbook out of his pocket.
About 20 yards away with Dinesia absorbed in her gumball played in the rain-slicked parking lot.
She darted between two parked cars and into the path of a car full of customers coming for lunch.
Are you kidding me?
Why can't you watch your children?
The car braked in time to miss the little girl.
Thank you.
Imagine two kids run over by cars.
That's all your fault.
Everybody loses track of your kid once in a while.
Both two?
Fuck you.
No.
I can't blame anybody but yourself.
when you do that.
Wow, but Dar-Dar was oblivious.
He was putting the check in his pocket.
He was still talking.
Didn't even notice that his kid almost got killed.
Okay.
May 18, 1990.
Warrant issued for former star.
Why?
Arrest warrants have been issued
for LSU football star Ramsey Dar-Dar
for driving a stolen car,
fleeing from an arresting officer,
and failing to appear in court.
When he didn't show up in court,
he was a judge issued
to warrant for his arrest.
He also signed an arrest warrant that accuses Dardar of driving the stolen car and fleeing
from a policeman who stopped him.
He had been scheduled to stand trial on burglary on bad checks on Monday.
His attorney said that he has no recent contact with his client and said, I presume he will
either turn himself in or be arrested.
Wow.
That's the only real two.
Eventually that'll happen.
Yeah, those are, yeah, that's the, certainly the logical conclusions to make.
Oh, shit.
on the day he was supposed to be in court,
Dardar drove to the offices of the Tiger Rag magazine,
which is the LSU thing,
and offered to sell a first-person article for publication,
according to J.R. Ball, one of the staff writers.
Tiger Rags a weekly publication,
which is devoted to LSU sports
and is frequently at odds with the athletic department.
They said he was trying to sell the rights to a first-person story
regarding his personal situation
and his feelings about the LSUES.
LSU community betraying him, the Tiger Rag publisher said.
You guys made a story?
I got one for you.
I got one.
This guy said he gave Dar-Dar a, quote, small cash advance, but no decision has been made as to whether the magazine would publish the article.
They said it appeared Ramsey was very distraught about his situation and had a very hostile attitude toward the LSU community, with the exception of former LSU coach Jerry Stovall and a few members of the current coaching staff.
Yeah.
Wow. May 22nd, 1990. Well, he's turned himself in or got arrested here. Here he is. Ramsey Dardar, who skipped his trial on two felony charges last week, is sentenced to you, sir. May fuck off six months in parish prison.
Okay. The judge, Dardar told the judge he failed to appear in court because he thought he was supposed to be there Thursday.
I was confused about the date, you guys.
I just didn't know.
He was booked at the parish prison on four bench warrants.
He's accused of worthless checks, illegally possessing goods, and two counts of simple burglary on inhabited dwelling.
May 25th, 1990, they add another count to him here.
Oh.
Accusing him of aggravated burglary.
He's accused of entering a home, arming himself with a knife, stealing a wallet and a checkbook, and riding away on the owner's bicycle.
There's the move.
Are you?
Yeah.
Come on, man.
I mean, you're big ass on a bicycle.
As soon as your big ass got on a bicycle, you should have said, man, my life is
fucked up right now.
Flattered and how to shit, as Ellsworth would say.
Yeah.
I got to look a goddamn dickulous.
I look like a moron.
Yeah.
And I am.
And I am because there's several warrants for me right now.
So I'm an idiot.
And I look like a bear escaping the circus.
Yeah.
And for all I know, my kid is currently running in traffic.
Currently.
The judge sentenced him to six months in jail for skipping the trial on a felony charge there.
He's also being held for the State Department of Probation and Parole in connection with a probation violation in another parish.
Oh, boy.
So June 10, 1990, here's an article in The Times, and it says, choosing the right path.
After retiring from the good life as NFL players, former LSU stars Ramsey Dar-Dar and Greg LaFloire were faced with a
adapting to the real world.
One made the right choices.
The other didn't.
Okay.
Yeah.
It was after a long, hot football practice in August when Ramsey Dardar and Greg LaFleur
sat in the St. Louis Cardinals' locker room and talked.
The two played together at LSU.
Now they were trying to survive two-a-day practices in the pros.
The other guy here, LaFleur said, Ramsey said to me,
I don't need this.
I can go back to Baton Rouge and get a good job, LaFleur recalls.
And I was thinking to myself,
Be for real.
The only reason you had that high-paying job in college
was because the LSU coaches got you that job.
None of that's legal, by the way.
Right.
Well, there's that.
But there's also...
Recognizing that is a big deal
that that's part of why LaFleur is not in trouble.
Exactly.
Yeah.
He knew I'm a football player.
That's why they gave me shit.
He just thought that...
This is like in casino
when he's like the front guy wanted to...
He just wanted to think that we gave him the casino
because he's fucking smart.
You know what I mean?
Like, just because you're a great guy, everybody was giving you shit.
They said reality always was a problem for Dar-Dar.
When LaFleur faced reality, he was given a minor jolt.
Reality, though, gave Dar-Dar a knock-down punch.
For LaFleur, life without football meant fighting the battles in the real world.
After working in the restaurant business and teaching,
LaFloor is now an event coordinator in the LSU Athletic Department.
For Dar-Dar, Life Without Football has been hell.
Spent time in drug rehab, run-ins with the law.
His son was killed in the car accident.
That's one way to put it.
Been arrested all over the place.
He's been begging for money from LSU alumni and old friends.
Dar Dar-Dar and LaFleur were brothers in arms at LSU and St. Louis,
then traveled completely different paths after football.
Many wonder why.
Many.
Coach Jerry Stovall has a reason, maybe.
He said, if I knew that answer, I'd bottle it up and make a million dollars.
What?
How do you prevent stupid from occurring, I think, is what he's getting at.
If I knew how to, fuck, keep guys from having self-destructive behavior,
yeah.
Fuck, I'd be a star.
If I knew how to keep NFL athletes off of drugs.
Off of, yeah.
Everybody.
Women and cocaine.
People off the drugs.
He said, I have two children at home and there's a world of difference between them.
Sometimes you really don't know what makes people turn out the way they do.
That's true.
LeFleur thinks he knows why he successfully adjusted to life without football.
he says he prepared himself for the moment.
He said, when I left pro ball, I wanted to make sure all the bills were paid
because I knew there was no way I was going to go out and make the same kind of money I was making in the NFL.
Again, smart.
LeFleur always knew reality was right around the corner.
He grew up in Vill Platt, which is a small town murder town.
He quickly learned the difference between reality and illusion.
At LSU, he saw that college football is mostly an illusion.
He said in college athletics, if you don't keep the primary,
proper perspective, you can get all caught up in it. Start believe in your own shit.
He said, it's totally unreal. There's nothing real about it. The only thing you get from
Division I athletics is discipline. That's the only thing you benefit from. Nothing else is real.
Your registration's done for you. You pick your classes. There's someone to do that for you.
You go to practice every day and there's a clean uniform waiting for you. When the summer comes,
they find you a job paying up to $15 an hour, which was huge money in 1982. It was huge
huge. They put you in a safe job where you're not climbing scaffolding 30 feet high. But that's not real and you have to keep it in perspective. He said that he kept things in perspective during college. He did the same thing when he returned to Louisiana after playing tight end for five seasons with the Cardinals and one with the cults. He kept his perspective even when job applications were being rejected. He said there was times when I thought, did playing football pay off?
LaFleur said, but the funny thing is, every job I've gotten I haven't applied for, they called me.
Right.
Meaning, yeah, football.
When LSU athletic director, Joe Dean called, LaFleur returned to athletics.
He's been a graduate assistant at LSU before failing to obtain a job on the Tigers coaching staff.
Now he was back at LSU.
He said, I enjoy what I'm doing.
I always felt like I would go into coaching because I knew the game and enjoyed the game.
But now, being on the administrative side,
like the fact that a drop pass can't cost you your job. Always before I thought you had to be up
here watching films till midnight. Now I can go home at 4.30 or 5. I like that. Being a football
coach sounds horrible. Oh my God. I can't imagine. Horrible. Like horrible. Yeah. I've never
seen a position in any sport, whether it be player or coach, that has more, uh, uh,
cardiovascular problems.
These men are in such,
such dire straits all the time.
It's fucking insane, right?
Health-wise.
I don't know if they drink heavy or if they smoke heavy or what they're using,
but they're using something that is their cardio is so fucked.
They don't sleep those guys either.
All they do is sit around and eat snacks and shit all day too.
There's always a lot of spread, always a lot of food spreads at these football,
you know, training camps and shit.
They feed the guys a lot because they're...
Poor bastards are mad.
But they all are.
They're all, all of them are,
half of them sleep in the fucking film room half the year when they're there.
There's a fucking go, go to sleep at one in the morning and wake up in five and put more film on.
I can't be that interested in football.
I just couldn't.
Ramsey Dardar's home will soon be in the East Baton Rouge parish prison where he'll serve six months.
He earned his way there.
Yeah, he did.
Ramsey Dardar didn't have to end up this way.
He just did.
When he played at LSU, he was a favor to the media and fans.
He was pleasant and quotable.
He always had a smile on his face.
After being an all-SEC noseguard on the 82 Orange Bowl team,
Dardar was drafted in the third round.
He signed for $175,000.
It was big money for a kid from Bro Bridge.
He then added all the luxuries of his newfound fame,
the Beamer, the Dotson that we talked about.
There was also cocaine, plenty of cocaine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he was talking about that.
He said, talked about his time in drug rehab.
He had to check into that.
He said he had grown accustomed to living at an NFL salary level.
But when he left pro football, reality was waiting to slap him down.
Not easy.
Yep, that's not good.
LaFleur says, we've had more people try to help Ramsey.
The problem is he wants a job where he can make $50,000 a year.
It doesn't work that way.
There's lots of people that work 30 years and don't make 30 grand.
a year. This is the late 80s we're talking about. You know, 50 grand a year was a real good money
in the late 80s. It was very impressive money. You know, he could support a family on that.
Ramsey Dardar needed money. He needed to pay bills. He needed to support his wife and his two
children. He needed to support a cocaine habit. Sometimes he would ask ASU or LSU alums for money.
Sometimes he would just break into a house. Then he got caught. Prior to being sentenced for the
burglary and bad checks, the 30-year-old
Dar-Dar said he felt betrayed by LSU.
He said the school turned its back
on him and he was willing to sell his story
to a publication.
Motherfuckers.
LeFleur thinks that he's betraying himself.
He said the giant signed him because their
defensive line coach is one of
LSU assistant Pete Jenkins' best friends.
They tried to help him.
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So they said he was such a great kid when I coached him here. This is the coach that gave him
the reference. The way things are today, I'm not shocked. But he wouldn't have been one of the guys
that would have expected this to happen to. Greg LaFleur says he playing. He plays. He plays. He
plans to stay in athletic administration. Ramsey Dar-Dar says he plans to try not to be in prison
for the next 20 years, pretty much. The Tiger Rag publisher, who gave him a few bucks for this
story, said, I think Ramsey's going to end up okay. When he gets off the drugs and the alcohol
and spends the time in jail, I think he'll decide it's better to be out in that field picking
okra than in jail. I mean, not if you're an injured giant man, it's not going to be
He's six foot five.
That's, you can't pick things from the ground.
Just out there picking okra.
That ain't going to work.
Ocra's a low thing, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, you ain't picking that shit out.
That's a low-plag.
You got to get people who are five-two to do that.
You can't get a six-foot-five guy.
You can fucking be broken in 15 minutes.
So, yeah, he said, that's what he needs to do.
He said, when it hurts bad enough, people will change.
He's got a lot of people that are willing to help.
And he said, I think he can be rehabilitated.
I think what it boils down.
down to his not having hope.
From talking to him, he's painted himself in a corner.
Feels like he has no hope.
He can't do what he wants to do and doesn't know what he can do.
Yeah, you've got to have hope.
All right.
October 21st, 1990, this is the town talk here, newspaper.
They said, he is a fucking moron, is what this whole thing says.
And we'll get to also his sentencing here for some shit.
he is
well we'll just give you the sentencing now
he is sentenced to here we go
you sir may fuck off
five years in prison
on each of the three burglary charges
to which he pleaded guilty
but all suspended except
for 18 months
okay so he's going to do 18 months
but he's got five years
the judge said I'm willing to give you another chance
but he said
Dar Dar Dar will have to serve the entire
15 year sentence if he
violates the terms of his probation for five years.
Uh-huh.
He said, don't think for a minute that I will hesitate to send you there.
And Dardar said, yes, sir.
He could have received up to 36 years in prison.
36.
Yeah.
This is the prosecutors drop the charges of issuing worthless checks
and illegal possession of stolen items in exchange for the admission that he committed
burglaries on May 31st and October 1st, 1989 and May 15th, 1990.
Dar Dar-Dar must repay $5,000 or $5,500 to his victims,
undergo more substance for treatment or substance abuse,
treatment for substance abuse,
and spend at least 500 hours at community service.
Wow.
The defense attorney said Dar-Dar can get out of jail
Christmas Day with credit for good behavior
and for the months in jail since he pled guilty in June
to three counts of simple burglary.
Sure.
His lawyer said,
Ramsey wants to do right.
He wants to succeed.
But he said he was just ill-prepared for life after football.
That's all it is.
The problem was, Dardar said, I was hooked on cocaine and I had a hard time dealing with myself when my career was over.
I was just so hooked hard on drugs.
He said that basically he didn't do shit for academics in school.
No?
And his lawyer reveals that he had a, okay, this is insane.
I don't even know how you do this.
I've never heard of this before.
On the ACT, which is one of the college entry tests, you can get up to 36 on the ACT.
That's a perfect score.
$3,600?
36.
36.
36.
It's 0 to 36 on the ACT.
He got a 3.
Oh.
A 3.
I never took any college placement test, but I think I score higher than a 3.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say so.
He also found out his lawyer had him,
sent him to a place.
He has an IQ of 71.
Oh my God, what?
That's Gumpian.
I think Forrest Gump's with 72.
That's why he's in trouble.
Yeah, he's a fucking moron.
That doesn't help him.
He doesn't understand.
And they said he basically, he should have, well, quote,
this man should have never been allowed to go to college.
He was taken simply because of his football prowess.
Should never been allowed.
Shouldn't have let him in the fucking door, this guy, damn guy.
He said he was set up to fail.
The reason he was a football player, college is for students first and then for football players.
The system failed.
That's why they call it a student athlete because student is first.
Student comes first.
He said that the educational system may have failed, Dar-Dar here.
The judge said, you know, he said it's unfair to them to be modern-day gladiators.
He said, what do we do with them when it's over, what the sentencing judge said?
Dar-Dar sobbed heavily and rubbed tears from his cheeks as the judge spoke.
But his lawyer said that it was wrong to blame LSU for his problems.
He said they gave me the – Dardar said they gave me the support – or they gave me the opportunity.
I'm the one that screwed it up.
Okay.
And the lawyer said he would have probably had the same troubles at any school.
Period.
Because he's a moron, basically.
LSU officials have –
offered him a job when he's released from prison, by the way.
Oh, really?
Yes.
The judge suggested that Dardar Council other athletes and students for his public service work
and that he make a videotape showing the highlights of his career and where he finds himself today.
The highlights?
Highlights.
Are there any?
I fucking doesn't seem like it.
No.
March of 1991, he is released from prison after six.
six months.
Oh boy.
He is free for a week when he's arrested again.
After all that.
He was booked Thursday with aggravated burglary after he was found inside a fucking house.
Stop it.
He went to jail for.
Caught in the act.
In the act.
Officers were dispatched to a residence at about 3 a.m.
when neighbors reported hearing noises from inside the house.
The captain said, a man was arrested after the officers found the back door had been
forced open. What a fucking idiot. That's incredible. So April 27th,
1991, judge pulls out of Dar-Dar case. Yeah? Yeah. He said, the judge said, I just told him he
kicked me in the teeth so many times that I didn't think I could be fair. I'm so pissed off at this
guy. I literally said, I can't be impartial. Yeah. He told me to go fuck myself way too many times.
I'm tired of you. He said it's an, it's an, it's an, it's an
awful thing to say, but at least I'm honest.
I can't be fair. That's fine.
He's just tired of seeing this fucking guy.
Wow. Dardar remained in prison today on a $1 million bond.
Oh, he's in so much trouble.
Are staying here.
Yeah.
As part of his sentence, he's got a 15-year suspended sentence that he could get now again.
So he's got a trial set for September of 1991.
July 27, 1991 here.
He, apparently, this is, Dardar testified during a preliminary hearing that he broke in a home on March 7th to steal whatever he could find.
Police found stolen jewelry in the truck he was driving that night, but he had told police the jewelry must have belonged to someone else, and he did not know it was there before they told him about it.
It's in, how many other people's jewelry do you have in you?
Do people just store jewelry in your car, usually?
Online.
You should come here like, whose fucking medallion is this?
I haven't seen this.
I'm so tired of everybody putting all this jewelry.
in my car.
I can like open up
to put my cup in the cup holder
full of just rubies and diamonds.
I can't even get my shit in there.
God damn jewels.
The jewelry, according to testimony,
had been stolen from a residence the night before.
Of course.
Now, Dardar said that he loaned his wife's truck
to someone else on March 6th
and returned for drugs.
So he said, that person,
who by the way, I don't remember their name,
he must have been the one who committed the theft.
And then I said, great idea,
and went out the next day and did it too.
He said he was in the house over an hour, March 7th,
when he decided he could not go through with the theft.
He said it was just, it was graying on my soul.
He said, quote, I was fixing to leave.
I'd gotten paranoid.
I started thinking about everything I'd been through with cocaine.
And as much as I wanted to, I couldn't make myself do it.
I knew what would happen.
He was caught by police on his way out of the house.
They found nothing missing in the house.
So he was booked and all this type of shit.
and a leave.
Yep.
He said, quote,
I got two kids
and a wife and I love
them very much.
I messed up.
I let temptation get to me.
I was just mad
and I was also depressed.
Yeah.
So, April 30th,
1992,
oh boy,
he's going to get sentenced
and he says,
I'm not blaming anyone
for my drug habit.
I know I've done wrong.
And the judge
says, if you don't change,
you'll be forever
in the criminal justice system.
You've got your
yourself caught up in drugs.
This whole thing about blaming other folks for your shortcomings has to stop.
Yeah.
And then you, sir, may fuck off six years in prison.
Okay.
That's a good start.
Not good.
And then a little while later, his mom dies.
Oh, no.
1996.
His mom's dead.
When it rains, it pours for this poor father.
It really does.
Jesus.
March 1997 here.
he is released from prison.
Okay.
So he's out.
November 16th, 1997.
Guess what happens?
He's arrested?
He's arrested again.
He was stealing something.
They said when the man saw the police car, he dropped the bag he was carrying and ran.
They used a police dog to track him where he hit under a house.
And he wouldn't come out, so they had to send the dog in to get him.
Oh, no.
They struggled for several minutes, and the man hit the dog with a screwdriver and an axe handle gashing the dog's muzzle.
That was dumb.
That was stupid, but I have a thing with police.
You should not be allowed to stick an animal on people.
I'm sorry.
Get your fat ass in wherever the fuck they are and go get them.
And if you can't, then you fucking want, you don't get to sick a wild animal.
And then imagine, imagine something's biting you and they go, don't hit that dog.
I will stab that, I'll cut that fucking thing's three.
throat if it's got a hold of my leg.
And I love dogs.
And you know that.
But if it's got a hold of my fucking femoral artery,
I will cut its fucking head off if I have to.
Yeah,
just like a person I would do too.
I know.
You're going to jail forever.
Yeah.
It's a cop now.
It's a cop.
They soar it in.
It ain't a snobstage.
If a fucking,
if a goddamn police officer pulled you over,
chased you and then bit you for fucking five minutes,
that guy would get fucking fired for that shit.
So guess what?
If he can't not bite me, he can't be a cop.
And someone's got to bring that up in this fucking Supreme Court somewhere
because that's the craziest fucking law ever.
This dog's a person now.
Another great point is that if my dog is very protective of me
and if a police officer grabbed a hold of me and my dog bit him,
he'd shoot my fucking dog.
Two fucking seconds.
Yet you are supposed to lay there and let a guy,
I mean, sure you shouldn't run from the cops to begin with,
but you can't use a wild animal.
You know when they did that?
You know when they did that
when they would send dogs after people when they ran.
That's what they did that.
The don't run from cops bit is fuck too
because they don't only do it.
They'll throw that motherfucker in your car
when you're in the car.
Train a murder of crows to peck your eyes out.
Like where's the fucking line?
Where's the line?
Why can't they bring a tiger to mall you?
Like what's the line?
You know what I mean?
a fucking trained German Shepherd
that bites you is not a cop.
And then they also name these
fucking things wild names like Magnum
and shit like that. They're like Deputy
Magnum, go get them. Why
can't I fire on that?
That's crazy.
Use the dogs to find people.
Fine. Use the dogs for rescue.
Use the dogs to find drugs. Fine.
You can't use a dog to do your fat-ass
job because you're not fast enough to catch a guy.
Fuck you. You know what's going to happen?
Get faster cops.
Because one of those dogs is,
is going to eat somebody that didn't do anything.
And that's what I'm sure they do all the time.
Do you think they've got to, right?
Fuck yeah, they have to.
The cops arrest people that didn't do anything a lot.
That's what I mean.
They got to stick a dog on him once in a while.
Sure.
The dog doesn't know.
Dog doesn't.
He told me to bite him.
He told me to bite him.
I bit him because I thought he was him.
Yeah, I thought that.
Exactly.
So he's arrested for simple burglary of an inhabited dwelling, resisting arrest,
and injuring a police dog.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he is pretty fucked here.
He's freed on bond December 5th of that year.
April 1st, 1988.
Guess what?
He's arrested.
He's fucking arrested again.
Yeah.
Yep.
Incredible.
He's been free on bond since December.
He was arrested early Monday inside the house after neighbors reported here in glass breaking.
Oh, my God.
He's just constantly doing it.
Dumb.
Upon arriving at the house, police found electronic equipment.
outside. Dardar surrendered
several minutes after officers
surrounded the house. Police added
several additional counts of burglary for
break-ins in the same part of the city.
He was booked on aggravated burglary,
being a felon in possession of a firearm.
Six counts each of simple burglary
and simple burglary of an inhabited dwelling.
He's being held in lieu of $200,000
bond.
He's a fucking idiot.
June 30th, 1998,
pleads guilty to eight burglaries.
Dang, he's a fucking criminal.
He is fucked.
And he is expected, the prosecutor says he's expected to get 32 years.
Serial criminal, man.
He won't quit.
This is fucking crazy.
So, yeah, this is crazy.
Judges faced with young and first time drug offenders would do well to sentence the defendants,
do well to sentence the defendants to study the life in times of
Randy Dar-Dar, this newspaper says, or of Randy Dar-Dar, not Ramsey.
This newspaper says Randy Dar-Dar in the fucking headline.
That's how forgetful he is.
Jesus Christ.
Forgettable, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
So he is pretty fucked.
They say that what happened to Ramsey Dar-Dar got hooked on crack cocaine, burned away
his potential in life, education, recognition, and everything else.
He's fucked here.
This, by the way, plea bargain gives him a guarantee, guarantees him a sentence of 32 years,
but saved him from additional counts that could have amounted to more than 100 years in prison.
Wow.
For being a fucking idiot.
The judge who ordered first time offenders to study the life, judges who ordered the first time offenders to study his life should follow that order with a reminder.
If you just, if you don't just say no the first time you're off for drugs, you could spend thousands of nights in a prison cell wishing you had.
Yeah, that's the solution.
Just say no the first time and you'll never go to jail.
In prison, he remained married to his original wife.
She stayed with him.
This broad loves him.
He said Lorraine would bring his children to visit him, but for the first few years, she didn't go in to visit herself.
She's got to be worried that this dodo bird can't take care of himself.
That's what it is.
September 2017, paroled.
He gets paroled, relocates to Louisiana to Baton Rouge, and once.
to reconnect with LSU.
Of course he does.
Yeah, he's welcomed home
through professional athletes
supporting students program,
a nonprofit founded by
former LSU players to aid
at risk youth in academic sports
and personal development
via a community event
at Walk On's restaurant.
So, yeah, he has opportunities
to mentor young people
to not be a fuck up.
November 2017,
he repeats, he keeps saying,
I'm blessed, I'm blessed, I'm blessed.
Right.
He tells the wait staff at walk-ons he's being celebrated by those who love him,
just three weeks removed from a 19-year prison sentence.
He says he wants to be dedicated to helping students to succeed in sports and in school and in life.
So he is, you know, ready to go.
He said, God has a plan for me.
He took me off the streets because I could have gotten killed.
Some of the people I was hanging around with and some of the areas I was hanging out in,
It's not a good place to be.
But when you're on drugs, that doesn't matter.
It's a terrible place to be.
Yeah.
I'm 20 years drug-free.
The night I got arrested and I was in that police car.
I knew I was going to do some time.
I asked God to help me to give me the time to wean myself off drugs.
So he said he worked out, got clean, and, you know, even played football until the program was cut.
He says, everybody talks about Camp Jay.
That's lockup.
That's the place where guys can't live in population.
It's well known all over the country.
It was pretty rough when I first got there.
Being that I was Ramsey Dar-Dar to a lot of people, football player, people wanted to know what it was like being an LSU football player.
Being a professional player, it helped me survive Camp Jay.
Oh.
Yeah.
And he said people, Lorraine made it a point to bring the children around, making the drive from Atlanta.
She said, she always brought my kids to see me.
After some years past, she finally started coming in.
We stayed in touch with each other the whole time.
She made sure my children were close to me.
They came often all the way from Atlanta.
I thank her for it.
My children always supported me.
Even today, we have a real good relationship due to the actions my wife took.
She says, Ramsey's the type of person.
He's very kind-hearted.
The man I fell in love with, married, I was hoping and wishing he came back.
And I think he did.
If I was going to leave, it was leaving something he turned into.
And he said that he only received three or four write-ups his entire prison sentence.
He said, most guys end up with 100.
Yeah, he said, his family met him at the gates.
He said, me and my wife have been up and down the hallway because all my old friends from high school, junior high, my school teachers, some of whom I've forgotten.
I've gotten calls from all over the country.
He said he's visiting some of his friends and things like that.
And he says, I'm just blessed.
Okay.
September 3rd, 2020, the day after he moves into a home.
Okay.
He, uh, wow.
Uh, a teammate of Cecilia resident Ramsey Dar-Dar from the Charlie Mac and Jerry Stilvall
era, Lyman White says a go-fund me account has been set up for Dar-Dar who took, who lost his
house in Lake Charles to Hurricane Laura the day after moving into it.
He bought a house, moved in day two.
Destroyed by a hurricane.
Holy shit.
The go-fund me.
Just convinced he's cursed.
He's cursed.
He's cursed.
It absolutely is.
The goal is to raise $2,500 on GoFund me back back.
Why, that's what his house is worth?
Rent or hotels while his shit gets repaired.
I don't know.
Maybe that's what it was.
November 18th, 2025, he had his high school jersey, number 45, retired at a ceremony.
And that's it.
Can't get enough of Ramsey Dar-Dar.
You can get a sunbeam bread brand, LSU.
football card here for $3
from 1983.
Or just leave your door unlocked and move to Baton Rouge.
He'll find you.
Leave some coke out on the
It's like they used to say with Omar
on the wire. They go, you want to find Omar,
go stand out on the corner with a big ass package.
That's how you find him.
He'll be right there.
He'll be right there.
Yeah, leave your door opening some jewelry on the counter.
He'll be there.
So there you go, everybody.
There is Ramsey Dar-Dar.
And quite the goddamn little weird
tale of a guy that we've never
really heard of and just a fucking disaster.
A guy who could have been and couldn't have been.
He's just cursed.
He couldn't stay healthy.
Then he couldn't stay off drugs and you're not going to get healthy.
Now he can't stay at other people's houses.
Can't stay at other people's houses.
He's all fucked up.
So there you go.
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He just got a new truck.
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Other producers
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the second,
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What is it?
I said,
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Yeah,
perhaps,
I'm sure that's
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actually.
Maybe.
It's spelled U.S.
not I.
C.
Yeah, probably.
Certainly some.
All right.
Brooke Rice,
Lauren Ashmore,
Lacey would know last name.
Mike Friday.
Ralph Samson 50.
Lee Donnersberger.
Mylene Barty.
ADA,
the law has donated to us.
Amy McLean,
Nina Corbett,
Corbett.
Oh, it might be Ada,
just in all caps.
Or it's ADA.
I don't know.
Jackie Anderson,
Jonathan Thack.
Dau-Oye, Dau-Oye.
That is a tough one to...
All right.
Kyle Huge, good for you.
Amanda Fancher, Samson, Brian Donahue,
Lynn Whalen, Mortimer, Becky Kuk, Kukch,
Cuck, not cock, but it's Kutch.
Ashley Robinson, Nikki Mann, Michael would know last name.
Joel Barnhart, Stacey Myers, Ari would know last name.
Jocelyn Pinto Alvarez, Ashley Johnson, Shannon, Shannannann, Burnett.
Maybe it's Shannon.
Paige Carson, Lacey Strickland, Jess B, Heather Bevin, Hattie, and nope, that's Hedy Lang.
Minga would no last name.
Jackie would no last name.
Brandy Macracken, Macraken, McCracken, I'm sure it is.
Wanda Waters, Sloth would know last name.
Kelly Coyne, Dustin Brightcruits, Justin Terry.
I think it was Dustin.
Did I say Justin?
I don't know.
Finally would know last name.
Jen Logan.
Dave, no last name.
Nurse Rowe.
Levi would know his name.
Jennifer Loggins, Kenny's kid.
Tara G.
Katie Stout, Batista, Jerry Fitzgerald, Bobby Hollersgay.
Austin Roos, Mr. Moose, Regina, Regina La Manna, Kings come down.
Thick Ticconda, Ticotka Ticonderoga.
Thicka Ticonderoga.
Ticonderoga.
There it is.
It's not that hard.
Christine would know last name
Jessica Thomas
Kristen would know last name
Aaron Anderson
Nicole no last name
Lucas Danielson
Nick would know last name
Christian Jennings
Dennis Ambrococcio
Ambrocio
Ambrochio
Jackie would know last name
Jack would know last name
Nick Oring
or Oaring
Ryan Rosser
Kay Richardson
Amanda W. 79
Chad Jones
Allison Williams
Charles Jenkins
Justin
Kendall, Haley would no last name.
Nicole White, Stacey Lowenson, Lewinson,
Diamond Deb, Brian Kuhl,
Cole, Janet Cole.
That's two people that know each other probably.
Maybe it's K-U-L-L-L and C-U-L-L.
There's no way they know each other, right?
They're not related.
It doesn't seem like it, but it's just a big coincidence.
Fascinating.
Not bad.
They're the right next to each other.
They donated together.
Drew McElmoyle.
McElmoyle.
Oh.
Sounds like something.
Tell me with this speech, Phidim,
trying to say McIllbor.
It does.
Jessica with no last name.
Kiki Bass.
Cindy Maynard Gout.
Lisa King, L.S.M.
Shelley would no last name.
Corey Smith, Richard Stamper, Tracy Whiskerman.
Jennifer Weathers, Michael Filippelli,
Julie, with no last name.
Raymond Yazzevsky.
Michaela Miller.
Joe would no last name.
Jake Niebuhr.
Thay.
Taye Lee.
Teresa Nalt.
Rinald.
Rinaldo.
Vargarici.
Kathy Ann Hensch,
Lauren Dobbs, Brent
Laylor, it's probably
Laylor. Cat Daddy, 69.
I can pronounce that just fine.
Allison Banford, Sophia
Padgett, Mike Tillery,
Bradley Geiger,
Angela Anderson,
Balzac, would know the last name. I think that's the
fall name, James. I'm sure it's a real
person. Kim Graveter, Todd
Gow, Ronda
Ganocchio, Joe Zambor
Muda, Generation X Babs.
We are Wisconsin.
I don't know.
Shia Lotto.
Melissa Renner, Kevin DeMere, DeMere.
Vanessa would know last name.
Neil with four last names.
Doesn't give them.
Hunter Patty.
Jamie Trank.
That's the right way to donate, PS.
Karen Bostian.
Tom with a last name because Tom Smith.
Who the fuck's going to know that that's the right guy?
Just Tom.
Hey, Tom.
Caleb Halleck.
Ruth Hawkins, Amelia Mink, Jack Holtz, Janine Hildebrand, Jill Quick, dirty.
Sarah Gonciorek.
That's what Quick meant back in the day, right?
Dirty?
Yes.
They were on the easy side.
Miles Unde, Ude, Cameron the tallest turkey, Sarah Goncer, Alexa Krauss, Selena Sira, Selena Sira, Melissa Bernard, Mark Sira.
Okay, so those are two people who know each other.
Chelsea Brown, L. Edwards, Diana I, or, yep, Tyler Justice, Ashley Varney, Kimberly Parv, Bob Robert, Bobby Robertson, Amanda Clay, Kat, Kelsey, Hallie, Hallie, Haley, Haley, Biggs, that's not Hallie, right.
Stacey Simeone, however that guy from the soccer team pronounces that. I don't, Dana Kedrowski, Victoria Storm, Randy Drayton, Fawn Forward, Jamie,
Azee, Lauren would know last name, Hannah Stark, Brittany Barton, Daniela would know last name, Patrick Kokura, Stephanie Snap, Dusty would know last name, and Melio would no last name, and all of our patrons.
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