Crime in Sports - Origins Of A Serial Killer Randall The I 5 Killer Woodfield Part 1

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

This week, we start a new multi part series on one of the most horrific serial killers that the United States has ever produced, who just happens to have had a short NFL career, as well! He comes from the perfect family, where anything less than perfection is disappointment. On the surface, he's a polite, clean cut young man, who leaves everyone in awe, with his athleticism, but there's something dark, lurking. He starts his creepiness early, by exposing himself to anyone he can get to look, and some other criminal red flags!!   Be the perfect son, from the perfect family, hate that you're not allowed to drive, when you're 10, and expose your privates to anyone that will look with Randall "The I-5 Killer" Woodfield - Part 1!!   Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!   Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman   Donate at patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]   Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!!   Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports [e-mail]  

Hello, everybody, and welcome back to crime in sports. Yay! Oh, yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay, indeed. My name is James Petro Gallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wiseman. Thank you, folks, so much for joining us today on the beginning of a journey.

We're going to take a trip down I-5 here, down the I-5 here for a few weeks with the I-5 killer, who is Randall Woodfield. We'll get into that. Now, we have done an episode. I think it's episode. I want to say 53, 54 around there. Sure. Right during our first year of crime and sports. And we were kind of keeping the,

we didn't even think to do multi-partners back then. And we were trying to keep it tight and short. So we went with the extremely, extremely just a bridged version of the Randall Woodfield story. And it always bothered me. And I wanted to do a bonus about it. But then there's just too much to do a bonus. It would have to be.

I don't know it bother you so long. It's so much. It did. It bothered. me for a long time. If I put something out there and it's not all it could be, it bothers us. So anyway, so now we decided let's really lock in and do a real deep dive on Woodfield because, I mean, he's one of the most horrible serial killers we've ever produced as a country. He's a terrible, awful, disgusting person. And the fucked up part is there's no reason for it either.

That's what's messed up. All these killers, you go, oh, well, there when he was five, that, okay, that kind of could make this. Catalyst, sure. Nothing. Just a dick. Just a complete, just a egotistical jackass. So we'll get into all of that and we're going to have a good time with this series. Well, as good a time as you can have with terrible fucking dense rapes and murders that are going to happen here. But quickly, before we get to all that, head over, first of all, to shut up and give me murder.com.

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That's our plea. Give us a second here. Solve plea. Calm the fuck down. Calm the fuck down. Let's talk about Randall, Brent Woodfield here. Rent? Brent.

Brent. Brent, which is a very like 70s guy with a mustache name. Yeah. It fits himself. Yeah. He should have went with Brent. It would have fit him perfect. But he went with his parents went with Randall.

So Randall is born December 26th, 1950. His mom went into labor, Christmas morning, but he didn't come out until just after midnight. They thought they had a Christmas baby and then, you certainly got something. Her pussy said, hell no, we're keeping this bad boy in for another couple hours. Does not deserve to share the birthday. No, I will not dilate for this asshole, is what it said. not happening. So he is born then December 26, 1950,

and he is absolutely a disaster, as we'll talk about here. He's born in Oregon, in Salem, he's born. His parents are Jack Woodfield. Jack is not his real name. His real name is Walter,

but he goes by Jack. In the, I suppose. Forties and 50s, they could turn any name into Jack somehow. Yeah, John was Jack. Walter's, everything's Jack. Okay, now that works, but okay. It's the same amount of syllables and letters to be John.

It makes no. How is John Jack? How does that work? I don't know. It's not short for it. It's so weird. It's the strangest thing. When I was a kid, it confused the shit out of me because people would talk about the

Kennedys and they go, yeah, Jack Kennedy. I'm like, do they mean Jackie? His wife? She was the Jackie. Oh. Yes, it confused the shit out of me. So they'd be like Jack and Jackie. And I'm like, his name is John.

What's going on? Did he have a brother that fucked her too? What are we talking about? My four cousin deals with it. I think he likes Jack better than John. I think, yeah, I think he does because everybody calls him Jack. Well, Jack has always been a cooler name. It's.

Jack, and Jack Nicholson, you know what I mean? Like back then, Jack was just a cooler name. John is very plain. And it's like the most standard name, John Doe. Yeah, I think Nicholson's the only cool one. Is there another? I don't think you need another. He's the coolest.

He was pretty fucking cool. That's what I mean. I don't know. I don't know if you need another one. I guess Jack Tatum was pretty fucking cool. Yeah, there's some Jacks out there. It's just a tough name. That's what it is.

It sounds like a guy, yeah. John is John Doe. It's the most common name. John Q. Public. John Smith. It's just the most plain, boring, squared up name. Jack is a tough guy that, it says Jack on his fucking garage shirt. Jack wears a leather jacket, you know, back in the day.

Yeah. And works on some rings on a store. car yeah well yeah yeah it's chilly in there though November what are we talking about Jack wears a lot of car heart absolutely Jack wears old spice thick you smell Jack coming from the next room

and you go hey I think Jack's on his way that's sexy motherfucker Jack over there uses aftershade it was high karate yeah yeah yeah he uses the after it's just all on his neck that's it his mother's name is Donna Jean Woodfield and he'll have two older sisters as well he's the youngest and the only boy of the family.

Oh. So he's got two older sisters. Doted on. Yeah, his sister, Susan and Nancy, basically treated him like a doll. Yeah. When he, you know, they're a few years older than him. And his sisters will be a great source of his rage throughout the years. Really?

And it makes no sense. They didn't abuse him. They didn't beat him up. They didn't, like, tie him down and do, like, you know, ritualistic sexual things to him or anything. like that. No. They didn't do anything to him. They were nice to him. But because they were older, they were allowed to do more things, you know, because they're five years older. And that enraged him that his sisters were allowed to do shit he wasn't allowed to do. Enraged him. Didn't understand they're older than you. He said, I'm a boy. I should be able to do what they do. That's ridiculous. That was his, he literally would scream at his parents. I'm a boy. I should be able to do this stuff. They're like, you're seven. You're not going out. the drive in with your girlfriends. When you're a man, you can do those things.

Yeah. You're still a boy. Yeah, so Susan and Nancy are his older sisters. And they were waiting for, his parents are, he comes from a very good, stable, upper middle class family. His dad worked for the phone company, as we'll talk about,

and worked his way up and made good money and, you know, utilities company. You can make a real comfortable good living. Where you're, you know, take your family on vacations and do all that 50s, 60 ship. American shit, yep. Yeah, and that was a good thing. He was like American dream.

His dad was in World War II, came home, did that. His mom's a college graduate. So they're very much an upper middle class family that knows how to do things correctly and wants their kids to be like very much 50 sitcom. That's what they want. Kids are dressed to the nines when they leave the house. And Harriet. Yeah, everything.

Father knows best type shit. That's what they're looking for. So he's not, that's what makes this weird. every other serial killer and every other not every other I'm sure but a lot of the famous ones when you break them down we've done on Patreon for small town murder which you can have access to if you subscribe to our Patreon we've done serial killer childhoods a bunch of them

you've done Domr Richard Ramirez BTK Bundy we've done a bunch of these people's childhoods and there's always something there's always something weird that you can go okay that's yeah that could be an acorn that a mighty shit oak can grow from you know what I'm saying like but with Randall it just doesn't make sense yeah it doesn't make sense his family dotes on him he's the boy the only boy and he's the youngest so I mean by all accounts that should create just a fucking sweetheart of a man at least a man also who understands women knows how to talk to them has some sympathy for

Has empathy, knows how they think, has heard them talk. Yeah, you would think. But instead, he's the opposite. Makes him hate women. But he likes women, too, a lot. He's very horny. Loads the person and personality loves the pussy. Yeah, he doesn't, he's socially, he's just weird.

He's got, he's very much like a kid who was, the best way I can put it, seems like a kid who was popular in the seventh grade and never progressed personality-wise beyond the seventh grade because that's what worked for him once so he just did that on repeat. Just hang on to that.

But once you get to be an adult, you need different skills with women. You can't just walk up to him and fart on them and be like, what's up, baby? You want to go to the dance? And they're like, hey, okay, you're a football player. Okay, like, it doesn't really work like that when you're an adult. You have to have a little more

sophistication that he doesn't really seem to possess, which is a little bit fucking weird here. So, I mean, both the sisters, by the way, are going to grow up, go to college, marry, you know, guys who make six figures and all that kind of shit, too. So it makes no sense here. This really doesn't make any sense. And we've never heard he wasn't dittled when he was a kid. He wasn't beaten. He was just a doll. He was an accessory.

That's no fun. Yeah. He wasn't like chained up outside with the dog. or anything like yeah I guess yeah but I got maybe a sister's would uh I don't know I don't know what is what his deal was though it doesn't make any sense so the Woodfields though um they they wanted to have a baby a boy first and they had two girls and then they finally had Randall so they were jacked here I mean just fucking jacked so dad worked like I said for a Pacific Northwest Bell that's where he worked got a job there when he was 21 right after World War II

and he'll work there for over 30 years and work his way up the ladder and eventually have a pretty pretty lofty position in that organization. So Susan and Nancy, they came out pretty quick and then a few years later we end up with Randall. So basically, Mom made a big deal out of what to name him. Big deal. She said it's a big, it doesn't matter what you can call a girl anything. It doesn't matter. It's all about her tits anyway.

She's basically saying. She's like, a boy, though, has to have a certain kind of name, which is a little weird. Do we? The wrong name could make all the difference. The wrong name could damn this child. I mean, it could get him picked on a little bit in school, but probably get him to figure out how to have the tools to probably maybe turn him into like a comedian or, you know, a boxer maybe. I don't know, something. It can certainly have an effect.

but not anything so they said they wanted something different something new something hot and she chose randy that's what she wanted to call him so randie i want it interchangeable she unisex is what i want yeah so she wanted to call him randy though absolutely okay now by the way he fucking hates the name randy he hates the name so for the rest of the episodes that we do this we're only going to call him Randy because he hates it he despises being called why doesn't like it thinks it's a stupid name think it's a kid name it's a yeah doesn't like it it randall he wants to be called randy is i mean it's the most uh mullet name that there is it is it's randy macho man savage it's randy yeah randy is a very well it's also a fucking

a euphemism for horny also, which makes it weird also. You name, you know what I mean? Anytime you name a kid, something that can be just put in for horny. Would you name your kid, would you name your kid blue balls? Yeah.

No. Probably not. So, oh man. So he gets Randall. She calls him Randy. He hates it. Yeah. Essentially here. So he is always,

by the way, thick head of black hair that he always has. He always has a big, big mop of hair on it. Nice. God dang, it's nice. He's a great hair. It's a curly. Yeah. By the way, he says it's naturally curly, but he gets perms. He's a liar.

He lies so much this guy. He's just a huge liar. He gets perms? Oh, he gets perms. It's a 70s, so you wanted to have that big puff. You know what I mean? Later on, he gets fucking perms, man. So he can have that big 70s fucking rock star puff.

Is he sitting in that? Is he sitting in that chair with the curlers in. Yeah, absolutely. With the hair dryer over his head. Reading the USA Today. My grandmother had one of those in her house. Talking about his slutty neighbor. She had one of those chair, hair dryer.

In her house? Yeah, well, my grandfather was a barber. So I guess he just ordered her one. She'd be doing shit and then she'd be sitting under that. And I'm like, why are you doing this in the house? I remember being so confused as a kid. She's like doing a home perm. So he always has this black hair.

He's all of that sort of deal. A woman who babysat for Randy said he was really a mild baby. Didn't cry, didn't do anything. She said, quote, he was very quiet. I remember that I worried sometimes because he was almost too good, too quiet. We worried that he wasn't healthy or something. Is that kid breathing? You know, you expect to hear some bitching out of a kid once in a while.

As he's older, he's a very handsome man. Oh, no, no, no, that's the thing. That's the other thing. That's the other thing that's so strange about this. That's the other fucking thing that's so strange is he's a good looking, women love him. Yeah. You don't have to. He always has like three girlfriends.

He's calling this girl, sending this one nude pictures of himself, doing all this shit. Oh, absolutely. He's wild. Make sure you say that louder because that wasn't, it wasn't from a fuck. No, he was sending fucking hard copy dick picks with a letter and a hand addressed envelope and everything, which is crazy. We have a listener and we'll get more into it. We have a listener who's messaged us and I guess one of her cousin maybe or her sister. His sister?

No, no, no, no, no. It's somebody's their sister had something to do with Randall. One of the women that he, one of the women that they, that he met and befriended and tried to keep contact with. would send them letters with weird pictures. And they just sent us a picture of him. You got it? Yeah, yeah. It's like him like flexing.

Yeah. He's in like shorts. He's not nude, but he's like oiled up and like flexing. Like I'm sexy. He's kind of, he's like a low grade ravishing Rick Rood kind of if you could say. That's the best way to describe him.

Yeah. Because this was a long time ago that he was doing this. Yeah, the 70s. Go to a photo mat and be like, print these please. He had to go to a. a person in a little booth and say, I'll be back in an hour for my dick picks.

Enjoy my dick. And then he got a kick out of that because he loves exposing himself too. Yeah. Right. Right. The amount of women who are throw themselves at him and are more than happy to be in his presence. Because he's a, as we'll talk about, he's a, you know, professional for a minute, a professional football player, a wide receiver. So you're very good shape and very athletic and, you know, design.

I hadn't had the 70s mustache and big girlie hair. I mean, he had it all in the 70s. Great neck, great fucking, just everything about him. Like a mugshot of him is like, oh, look at this handsome some bitch. Oh, if he got arrested for all this now, he would be the hottest thing on the internet. Everybody, every woman would want to fuck him. I can fix him. And it would be just like, he would be the guy.

Cupeth would. His cup would run it. Runeth. His cupeth. His cupith would run. His cupith. He would have plenty of commissary, that's for sure. For fuck sure, yeah.

So when he was a baby, he's always athletic. Like his parents noticed he was athletic from the time he could crawl. He was just, he crawled fast too. He walked faster than the other kids. He had balance. He could do things that other kids won. He was just naturally athletic. He was gifted in that way.

And his dad was thrilled about that. He's like, I'm going to have a, I've had two girls. Now I'm going to have a boy that's going to play a sport. Jacked about it. Now I can live through somebody. it finally. Yeah. So,

you say mom breastfed too. So there's another thing too. Like I'm only including that to say because some people, there was a theory about breastfeeding or not breastfeeding. Yeah, whether it balances the brain. Mom even breastfed. Like everything this kid could have. In every opportunity.

Yeah. He had. Like it's crazy. Like his sister's all over him and everything. So he, family stayed in Salem for about a year after he was born and then moved to Corvallis for a couple years. Yeah. And then Jack transferred to Otter Rock, Oregon, which I believe is like about 50 miles away from Corvallis, very small town. And that's where the family's going to live.

Is that a beach community? I don't think it's a beach community, but it's down, it's on the western part of, in the western part of Oregon. So this is basically an idyllic, idyllic Oregon small town. Yeah. So he grows up in a great place. It's very supportive. supportive community. Yeah. Nice teachers, good schools, doting parents, family structure,

breast milk on the tongue. At a time that the goonies, it was just, just before that. So, like, that's what this is. This area is like, yeah, it's wide open.

When people could afford these houses that they lived in because they, you know, the factory didn't shut down or whatever the fuck. Right. Kids can have a kick-ass childhood. Yeah, and that's what it was for him too. Yeah.

that's what's crazy. And then they love their family. The kids, they said the girls, a pleasure. Randy's the all-American boy. Dad was showing him how to play sports. And, you know, mom made sure, mom said she wanted to make sure that he had social graces.

That's what she said. Yeah, social graces. She said, and have manners and be a popular boy. That's what she wanted for him. Yeah. And she said he's so handsome and he's so smart. Sure enough, yeah. So, I mean, he needs to just be mulful.

And around that many girls, he's aware of how to treat women. Like, all intents purposes of this guy should be unbelievable. The world should be his oyster. He should be able to do anything he wants. He's got parents that would pay for his college. He's got, I mean, it's every advantage you can have here. Yeah. So his father, as became a manager at Pacific Northwest Bell, making more money.

Mom staying home, being a homemaker. Very well-respected family in the community. everybody go look at those Woodfield kids all the kids are always dressed perfect and you know the lawns cut they're perfect you know very 50s type of shit here um now by the way his sisters are very smart in school one sister becomes a doctor the other's a lawyer so yeah that's that's definitely a shadow i would say to overcome yeah but for stereotypical doctors and lawyers it's yeah they're going to be fine they're going to be all right but for him it's athletics is what he shines in. Okay. And schoolwork is kind of not really his thing because he gets the most credit for athletics. So why bother with this

shit over here? I'm not going to get all. I'm not going to get, no one's going to carry me around on their shoulders because I got a fucking B plus on the math test. It's not going to work. Right. So he didn't like basically it's Randy and three women in the house.

Dad works long hours, doesn't get home till late. So it's very much Randy and the girls. Sure. Now, I understand that. I grew up around a lot of women, but you take that, you should take that, and learn about women and figure out, you know, what they like and what they want and how to, you know, just general. That should help you later on. But he was just like, I hate these girls.

That was his whole thing. Hated him. So he began to really resent his sisters being able to do things he wasn't allowed to do. Which I mean, like I said, if you're 10 and your sister's 16, you can't be mad because she's allowed to drive. You're 10. Yeah, but he was. He was mad about it. Yeah, he said, and then when they'd say it's nothing personal, Randy, they're just allowed to do shit, Randy, they're just allowed to do shit because they're older, that would really enrage him for some reason.

That would normally placate the kid and he'd be like, okay, well, yeah, I can't help that. You know, it's not a personal matter, but he was like, ah, that would enrage him, hated it. Okay. He concluded here apparently and said this later on that girls got to do whatever they want and got to have fun and that girls are free. They get to do anything and I have to stay home. That's what he got. Is this the moment? Is this the moment that does it?

That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to find the turning point. But if this is what did it, he's fucked. Dude, how sensitive are you, bro? This is crazy. There's people. find out what the CEO gets to do. Oh, no, yeah.

There's boys who get... He's golfing while you're working. There's boys who get beaten and molested by their mothers and aunts and all that. They don't grow up and kill a bunch of women. This is crazy. So, uh, uh, also he hated that he had to have a babysitter. That pissed him off. He wanted to be alone, damn it.

My sisters are allowed to do things alone. Yes, because they're 16 and you're nine. So, yeah, that makes sense. But he wanted to be alone. He would, when the couple times they tried to, to leave him alone with his sisters, he would be jealous and they'd fight. They'd have a big fight. And he felt that he was the one who got blamed for everything.

He got blamed for the fights. And he thought they weren't his fault. Okay. And he got really mad. And he said, my sisters, they tease me, they tattle on me. And then I get punished because I, you know, punched one of them in the face. That's just siblings. Yep.

I had an aunt who, by the way, is lovely. You know what I'm talking about? She's about eight and a half years older than me. Lovely, nicest person who's ever existed, but she's almost nine years older than me. And she's my aunt. We grew up in my grandmother's house. And she made me eat ants and shit when I was a kid. She picked on me, my cousin Jesse, unmercifully.

Did horrible ants. All of us the red ones were strawberry. Oh, boy. I told the story before about the strawberry ants. So strawberry, the black ones are chocolate. I'm so glad you read books and got smart. I could have been a bad guy. I could not be going through life with you saying,

look, Jimmy, brown cows, let's go get chocolate milk. Very lucky. The road would be a nightmare with you. Thank you. Fuck, I read a couple of books, man. That could have been real bad. And also, the strange thing is, Cool Whip really tastes like shaving cream,

and I don't care for that either anymore. Not a fan of that Gillette shit people put on top of their coffee. Because that was also a thing. Saving cream on top of their coffee. That was also a thing. Very, very, you know, fucked with me. Just gullible. But kids were, I mean, you're allowed to be that.

It's fun and it should be funny. And I got over it. That's the thing. I never got, I didn't get mad and like try to kill women when I was 23. Like, it just didn't even a thing. I get along great with my aunt and we're, you know, we've been tight for years. So it's just, you know. Hey, everybody, just going to take a quick break from the show to tell you a little bit about MintMobile.

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He'd freak out and his mother is the one who would kind of give out the discipline, too, because dad's never home. Yeah. So this is not physically, by the way, wouldn't beat the boy or anything like that. But Randy would be humiliated because mom would say that he disappointed her. He is a sensitive little bitch, man. No kidding. He's just, I'm sorry, dude. This is crazy.

He needs to grow up with a foreigner is what he needed. Yeah. You'd think that all this estrogen would do one thing for you, but it's evidently doing the exact opposite. It's making him a little bitch. It's making him a little bitch. Yeah. It's so strange. So he wanted to control his anger. He wanted to please his mother. But he thought that mom had unrealistic goals for him. Yeah. That's what he said. As an adult, though, he said his relationship with his mom was, quote, real good and said, I'm closer to my mother than I am. am to my father. So he's always, basically, he has a, so it's a weird thing with women. Now, there's been psychiatrists and psychologists that have, you know, tried to pick this guy apart and try to figure out what his deal is.

And according to, by the way, the book is Anne Rule the I-5 killer. A lot of this comes from here. A lot of the psychologists said that basically he would misperceive women, which is so weird because you'd think he'd be able to know exactly what they're doing growing up that close to him. He should be able to interpret everything the right way. That's exactly. But they said basically he would overvalue these women and denigrate himself. Okay.

Basically. These women are wonderful and I have to have them. And if they don't want me, then I'm a piece of shit. And I spin out into a spiral. And then I'm mad at them for not wanting me even though it's me who. Yeah. Kind of that sort of thing. So his self-esteem, for the rest of his life, his self-esteem is completely dependent on how women view him, basically.

How, and his physical prowess, and he loves showing people his dick, as we'll talk about. Oh, he thinks it's great. He's so, I haven't heard of a porn star this proud of their penis before. Like, he's so proud of his cock and balls. It's amazing. He just wants to show everyone. I've met porn stars before. The last thing they want to talk about is their body.

Right? Imagine just being like Take a look at my dick Even though you don't want to Look at it Isn't it great? Hold on I want you to see this one vein Come here no seriously

You need to see this Check it out like that's so weird Rub across it It stands up right It's a pretty It's beefy this vein Can't do it Can't do it

So he was Through his young years He's good in school Made good grades And is great in sports He said him and his father Despite his father working a lot. They did have a lot of

father-son activities. Most of them centered around sports, which is fine for Randy because he loves sports. It's something he's good at and it gets some accolades. He's very much needy of say I'm good. It's not just

approval. It's actual praise. Yeah. Say I'm smart. Say I'm handsome. Say my dick is... My dick veins are lovely. Say I'm the best athlete around. He needs to like... His cup Every day is empty and he needs it filled with praise. And then he empties it the next day and he needs more.

Which is interesting. I guess maybe all that doting, maybe that'll do it. I don't know. Usually that wouldn't make you a murderer though. No. Just make you kind of a needy fuck that should go to therapy, you know? Or that has zero meaningful relationships ever. That too, yeah.

So he did well. He was growing handsomer or more handsome by the year. Yeah. He would have temper tantrums. at home sometimes mainly over fights with his sisters but they were all like oh he's just being a baby you know little little brothers you know how that is here uh no sex talk in the woodfield home so he wasn't like sexualized early dad didn't have even dad didn't have true detective magazines lying around or like you know some film strip of like a weird railroad track gang rape or something

that he would hold up to the light none of that shit was around so none of that's there i guess He definitely, as he got older, though, hates Randy and would tell his mom to stop calling him Randy. She wanted to call him Randy and called him goddamn Randy. So now the, I get, oh, by the way, Otter Rock is on the Oregon coast, by the way. Is it? Yeah, it is on. Yeah. It's north of Newport, apparently.

Okay. Wow. So, yeah. So basically, it's a beautiful town, too. Yeah. Really pretty town with hills and by the water and trees. It's gorgeous. Oregon Beach.

It's amazing. Really nice. And it's very safe. The kids all ride their bikes and nobody bothers them and everything's fine here. Corvallis is 54 miles away and that's the closest town that's big and that's not a big town. Especially back then it wasn't a big town. So, yeah, not bad at all. So it's really nice, by the way, the I-5 freeway runs all through here.

which is going to come into being a lot later. So he's very familiar with the I-5 freeway and all that kind of thing here. So the woodfields are at this time considered pillars of the community. Jack's getting better jobs. Once Randy turned 10, mom took a job at a drugstore as a clerk just to get out of the house. She's bored. She raised three kids. Now she's bored.

So his mom is described as a pretty woman. who always dressed with style and flair and looked several years younger than her actual age. Hell yeah. So that kind of vanity can rub off on someone, though. And that's how Randall sees himself is like, one thing that, okay, the family definitely has a, in public, this is what we look like, this is what we act like, this is what we sound like. Yeah. So that can be, that can be a little bit weird to have to. it's certainly yeah

sociological pressure societal pressures it's especially that weird appearances that weird 50s early 60s everybody's stiffiness I mean men mowed the lawn and dress pants like

it was a crazy fucking time like people But those dress pants were crazy weird too You got like slacks You got some big fucking Some big hard creased slacks going on. Thick-ass polyester.

They were crazy pants. With two-tone dress shoes and a tie and you're out mowing the lawn. It's the weirdest shit. So that's how it was back then. Like, you know. Weird. Look at him out there, not in his dress slacks, mowing the lawn. What a bum.

How did they do it? It's a lot of pressure. I would have been a miserable back then. Just so hot all the time. Just hot. I'm just hot, man. So they, that's what he's, so that's a pressure anyway.

way, I would say. So he said he tried, he had a hard time meeting mom's expectations. He resented his sisters because they were in high school and he was in junior high and they were allowed to go places and get driver's licenses and he had to stay home and couldn't go out and do things. He thought that basically a boy should be paid attention to and be allowed to do what they want. Basically, the world should dode on him, but instead, everyone and all the females are running his life, which he thinks is bullshit. He doesn't like that very much. So his mother's a big time perfectionist, and dad is really one of these guys who you're

going to be a star athlete, son. So there's some pressure there, but a lot of times those guys just end up, you know, marrying some chick they met when they were 18 and like work at a gas station or something. He went down and just having the life. Yeah. Yeah. So he became known as the best athlete in the area very quickly, even in junior high. Great coordination, really fast.

He's a star in track, baseball, basketball, and football. Dang. Yeah. It's just anything that has to do with speed and agility and anything he's awesome. Doing it all. Just really good at it. And everyone is really proud of him. his dad has like multiple scrapbooks full of clippings and they you know ever so his parents

they came to his games they rooted him on they had they fucking clipped his shit they put it in a thing so it's not even like you know my parents didn't even care it's none of that it's almost like they were too nice to him yeah there's a fine line evidently of being too good at some point if they would have just said listen randy a little cunt you need to stop being such a whiny little bitch I feel like Randy would have turned out much better. Instead, they just tried to pump them up and pump them up here. So he loved this, though. He likes the adulation and that sort of thing.

And I guess once the adulation stops, then you start getting angry. Sure. But his basically during junior high school is when weird shit starts to surface with Randy. He's the cleanest cut most all-American boy until he's about 12. you know, when your balls start stirring a bit. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah, a couple of pubs pop out.

Yeah. Your dick's a little harder, a little harder than you want it to be a little more often than you're looking for it to be. And yeah, start. This is when if weird shit's going to surface, this is when it's going to start to happen. Randy is such a hillbilly name. It turned Randy Moss into a hillbilly. Randy. It just makes me always think a family guy with Randy.

It just always makes me think of that. It's from family guy. Randy. Some guy who's named Randy who's mean to fucking Peter over the years. He'd go, Randy, like, you know, stop being mean to me. That's funny. That's funny. That's all I think of the whole time.

It isn't. It is. A shitback's name. It is. But when women get it, it's hot as shit. Well, yeah, whenever you give a woman a guy's name and put an eye on it instead of a why, it makes it kind of hot. Yeah. Charlie, back in the 70s, a lot of women named Charlie.

Yeah, that was, it's kind of hot. Yeah, but Randy for a guy, sounds like. It's a West Virginia accent every time. It sounds like if you like pulled into a gas station in the middle of nowhere because your car wasn't doing well, he's the guy that would pop out of the garage with like a wad of chew, like wiping down a big wrench, wiping the oil off it while he's still covered in oil. You know what I mean? That would be Randy. And telling you how fucked your car is and that won't be ready for two months. Yeah, and you look at his name tag and it says, Randy on it.

That's him. So his first, I guess, dalliances into sexual deviancy or exposing himself. Yeah. Which is how a lot of sexual deviance start is by exposing themselves. Yeah. Back in the 60s, we didn't understand psychologically that that leads to other things. That that's real. It's not funny.

No, now we get it. Like in the 70s, streaking was a big deal. It was like a funny thing. Because college kids did it. It was hilarious. Guys are doing everybody would laugh. Right. But that's different too.

The problem is the difference between the back and the front are vast. It's a canyon between the ass being funny and the dick being threatening. And also it's a difference if you're doing it in front of like hundreds of people and you're like, yeah, and then they all laugh. Or if it's one chick on a street at night and you're in a bush. That's a lot different. And just showing her the dick. Yeah.

You know the asses out because you see the dick. Yeah. But it's not money. But we didn't get back then. We thought that was just, oh, they're just being silly. Cutting up. We didn't understand that that actually is the first step a lot of times in a progression that leads to rape and everything else. A lot of guys that do way worse started there.

Exactly. I'm sure a lot of people did that that never went on to do anything too. but a lot of the guys started with this and you'll hear it with serial killers a lot too. So this apparently, they think it's when pressure became too great for him is when he started exposing himself basically. Okay.

So he could basically demonstrate that in his mind, this is like subconsciously getting back at his mother for making him be perfect and for having all this pressure to be perfect and all that kind of shit here. Deal with that mom. She didn't even see your dick.

I just showed this lady my dick. What do you think of that now? And also it's, he kind of likes the frightened reaction from women too. Yeah. That's the other thing. He enjoys that. So he would basically, he would get his dick hard first, by the way. He wouldn't just wave his heart, his limp dick at you.

Whoa. See, he's got to keep a hard on to wait for somebody, though. He's like got to slow stroke a bit just to keep it at a good clip. so he's not You can't You can't do it the other way That doesn't frighten anybody No but that's what most flashers do though

They just have a limp Limp dick hanging out there Yeah yeah Is that what it is? I think so I think I don't know This guy keeps an erect dick

I'd assume that the Chiketillo It would be enough Chichotillo we know it was limp And he showed it everybody He had a problem He couldn't get that thing hard That's what a lot of these guys do though

They're exposed That's a thing that happens with that. So I don't know. But this guy, Randy, he has no problem getting a hard dick and showing it to you. Oh. He will show his dick. Yeah, I guess that makes them angry.

Chikatillo's mad that he can't fuck women. So he takes it. Oh, that's horrifying. It's like, it is horrifying, isn't it? It horrifies me every day. Yeah. So it's, uh, there's a lot of weird psychology wrapped up in that shit. And we're not doctors.

I've seen his. He had some meat too. Chichotillo. Yeah. I thought you meant Randall Woodfield. I'm like, I don't you see his dick. I've never seen that one. I've done so much research and I've not seen his dick.

So how did you find out his dick? I was like, where did that come from? Gigatillo had some swang. Well, he was doing it in court. That's why they were. Yeah. He was masturbating at the judge while they was trying to fucking do things. He was a fucking nutcase.

So yeah, he likes the fear is what he does here. He, in his mind, he was. wasn't hurting anybody. So it's acceptable. It made him feel better in a weird way. And nobody's physically injured. It's not like he's smacking people in the face with it. You know,

he's not raping anybody. That's how he thought of it. But he also didn't want to be discovered and embarrassed because he knew that would be the ultimate sin in this household would be to embarrass the family publicly, essentially here. So eventually, though, he was caught. You can't flash forever. No.

You're not going to do that forever. especially in a small town. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're going to talk about this. In the Newport area, he is well known. He's the star athlete of the area and all this type of shit. They know when it sticks out. So he really didn't get any real punishment for it and wasn't refer to,

he didn't like get told to go to therapy or anything like that. Go get counseling. Go see a psychiatrist. Nothing. They were just kind of boys will be boys type of thing. That's a fascinating approach. That was a lot of what they would do back then Is that my boys will be boys

You know how they do It's weird My brother and I threw oranges At a guy on a lawnmower Behind our house And we hit him a couple of times And he shocked them to boys with boys And he told my parents

And I got in trouble But he did say The first one I figured boys will be boys The suburb The barrage that came later The strafing that came after that I didn't appreciate Yeah

He was pretty mad after that. Didn't appreciate feeling like Cambodia here. It wasn't good. And we were idiots. We chose the ammunition of the only house in the neighborhood with an orange tree. Very smart. Very smart. We're belting this.

Poor fuck, well, he's 110 and he's mowing along. We've done that with snowballs, me and my cousin Jesse. Yeah, everybody's got snowballs. We were like eight and we popped up. My grandmother's front porch. You couldn't like, you could, you know, hide duck down and be like behind or whatever. So we threw snowballs at this car and then ducked down in the porch like they weren't going to stop. We're sitting there two seconds later, the guy standing on the porch looking at us and we're like, oh shit.

They got us. But that's boys will be boys. That's silly. I suppose, yeah. And you get yelled at and you don't escalate your behavior. You go, shit, don't do that again. That's it. Never again.

I think my grandmother beat the shit out of us for that. like beat the fuck out of us for that with spoons and shit. That was a rough one. Yeah. So he can't be doing that shit. But yeah, but they just chalked it up kind of boys will be boys. The cops look the other way because he's a good student and a star athlete. And, you know, they don't want to ruin the kid's life, basically.

They don't want to fuck the kid's life up here. So he stayed in school and did all of his, you know, all of his shit here. Later on, by the way, his parents will always deny that they were aware of any sexual problems he might have had. Yeah, because you don't talk to your parents about that. No, which, yeah, which maybe they didn't know about it. Maybe the cops didn't tell him.

Maybe they just swept it under the rug or something like that. But I don't know. I feel like they would have noticed something here going on if they were paying attention. So Randy, this is funny too, his dad said that Randy didn't become sexually active until he was in high school. if you ask my dad when the first time I got laid was like the fuck do I know you know what I mean that's the weirdest thing I've ever heard yeah your parents know no no no no not a chance I would fucking hope not that's interesting but he does remember that Randy mentioned to him once that the girls in high school were quote loose okay

Loose guy. This is also 1967, 1968, free love and all that shit. It doesn't even loose with him. That means, you just, yeah. He heard a guy got a hand job at a fucking at a park one time. That's,

that's what that means. I got several blowies long before I got any sex. Yeah, yeah, which. That's how it usually works, right? Yeah, we grew up, no, well, now it is. We grew up in a great time. Yeah. When oral sex was pretty thrown around.

It was thrown around pretty loosely. Whereas like, in the day you wouldn't do oral sex so you were married for like five years. Right. That would be like, you know, things are getting a little dull in the bedroom. Hey, let's try this thing I read about in a magazine where you put your fucking mouth on my thing here and fucking... We grew up in a time where you make out with them. They're like, I don't want to have sex.

They're like, oh, and they're like, I'll blow you. Yeah. Oh, great. Well, great. Yeah. You didn't even have to say the first part. You just said, I'll blow you and I wouldn't even have thought about it. That's terrific.

I wouldn't even care. We don't. Once I've been here, I don't know how to do this twice. Yeah, we didn't care. we're good oh man so Jack also states that his son had adamantly says his son had

no problems growing up none he was a good boy he wasn't involved with alcohol or drugs he didn't do any of the things that we were supposed to do he said he was close to his mother treated her with respect he was a perfect child Randy knew he had to show his parents that

if he shows them that then he can do anything he wants because they're satiated. It's fine. One of his closest friends here, Mike Schaefer, a guy he'll be college roommates with later on and everything else, said he could never, he can't comprehend how Randy would ever hurt or much less kill anyone, just not the guy that he knew ever. He said that he's, he said that Randy wasn't even a, he wouldn't even kiss and tell. No? No. So he was like, I didn't even, you know, he wouldn't even brag about conquests or anything like that. They said he would date. a girl exclusively for a few months at a time and then they'd break up and he'd find another

girlfriend and he'd date exclusively for a few months at a time. Wow. So he wasn't like a player. He wasn't trying to. Yeah, just being real normal. Real, kind of old school. Yeah. This Schaefer also said he had a good relationship with his parents, but whenever he did

anything wrong, his mother always knew. So like in Randall's mind, she's like some omnipresent, you know, can see through the walls type of person. Oh, boy. Which is very interesting. She's Jesus. Yeah, she knows when you fuck. She's Santa Claus is essentially what she is.

She sees you sleeping. She knows when you're awake. She's got that gummy shit all over your hand. She knows when you showed your dick to a girl. She knows it all. Schaefer said he threw a party once when his folks were out of town. He was really careful and he put throw rugs and plastic over the carpet so there wouldn't be any damage done. Jesus.

Talk about a murder practice. and then he rounded up a crew of girls to stay around after the party to clean up. That place was just immaculate afterward, but when his mother got home, she knew. She just seemed to know everything he was doing. Even though everything was in its place, still she knew. She knew. Now, I'm sure that the place where I reeked of beer or something, you know what I mean? Who knows?

So Randy here was in the class of 1969 at Newport High School. school. Oh, yeah. One of his classmates recalled, quote, he was a beautiful kid, the star football player. He was a relatively popular kid. A beautiful kid. If you're handsome and the star football player, I don't understand how you wouldn't be popular. Right. Unless you had shit in your pants all the time. I don't get how you wouldn't be popular, you know. People remember him as being quiet a lot and almost shy. But then other people said that he was, he liked to do pranks and shit like that.

Like he had a very childish sense of humor. Yeah. He liked to tease animals and shit like that, they said. I don't know even know what teasing animals means. I don't understand. They don't really get that you're making fun of them. So it's a waste of time, I think, at that point.

You can't, you know, mock a Dotson. They don't care. They just don't care. So the, a lot of the girls here that he dated, he dated all the prettiest most popular girls. Okay. It's just how he dated.

Cheerleaders and things like that here. So this is crazy. Later on when he's caught and, you know, it comes out who he is, some of them were crying tears over his arrest. Not Randy. He's sad about it. He's so wonderful.

Yeah, guys they went out with in high school. One of them said she couldn't bear to watch the television news and see Randy in handcuffs. Just couldn't bear to see it. Yeah. Um, her husband, because she was married while this was going on, who happened to be one of Randy's friends, said that she would run from the room whenever Randy's image would come on the TV news. She'd just take off from the road. Oh, God, crying and everything else.

Um, Randy always preferred younger girls than him. Okay. Not like, not out of range young. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, if he's a, if he's a senior, he's going out of the sophomore.

All right. A little more pliable, a little easier here. Yeah. Um, as he grew older, he would continue, he kind of stays at the same age of what he likes. And he gets older, but his tastes don't. Oh, boy. He's like Matthew McConaughey and fucking dazed and confused. Yeah.

He's like, I get older and they stay the same age. That's what he's doing. So, um, he, he likes his girlfriend to be plain. He likes a girl that wears jeans and that sort of shit. Yeah. He doesn't like when they dress sexy or wore, quote, flashy clothes, as he put it. We used to have some shit in common. Yeah, doesn't like any of that.

You put a dress on with your cleavage show and he thinks you're trashy and doesn't like you. That's an insecurity, right? That's a level of like, somebody else could get her from me. Someone else, all eyes are on her, but he likes to go out with the pretty popular girls anyway. I think that just might be a something to do with his mom. mom's perfection or something to do with that. I'm not sure. Or just whatever he thinks is sexy.

I don't know. He likes skinny girls with big tits. That's his jam. Wow. What a weirdo. No one likes that. What a unique fellow. He's got a real pink.

Next thing you know, he's going to tell us he likes blow jobs. I'll be shocked. This is crazy. Well, the good news is porn's full of all that shit. Yeah. Bad news is in 1968. Yeah. Good luck finding that.

porn you either had to be in time square or break out a whole film strip set up in your house to fucking view so that shit yeah yeah it's crazy so uh but he was a good student he's good in math he was moved into advanced math classes actually uh teachers would praise his his brains and the way that he would get along with everyone they were like he's like a politician basically he's like ted bundy but a good athlete at this point right type of deal um he was he was was once selected by the Newport Rotary Club as boy of the month, which sounds just terrible. A group of grown people should never have a boy of the month ever. That just sounds real gross. I don't like the best boy on credits on movies. Best boy grip too. Yeah, best boy grip. He's got the

best grip. He's got the great grip. So yeah, boy of the month here. He belonged to the German club as well. So he wasn't like some idiot jock. Like that wasn't his bag here. But sports is where people remember him from. He made the all state first team in football.

So first state, all Oregon, yeah, he's of the best starting lineup they could muster for the state of Oregon when he was a junior. Wow. Yeah. That's how fucking good of an athlete he is. He's really good. And not just in his small town, the whole state.

So, and also when he was a senior, too. So not bad. He also received an honorable mention in the all-state basketball team as well. So just an athlete when he was a senior. He also played varsity baseball also. So he's playing all three sports at a high level. He was also a sprinter and was on the track team. All right.

I mean, the guy is killing it here. I mean, everything. His only thing and his only goal is to play professional football. That's what he wants. That's what he's concentrated on. He's a wide receiver, and he's about 6 foot 2, which back then is a big fucking receiver. Back then, wide receivers were 510, 511. You know what I mean?

6-2 is a big, beefy receiver. He's a tall receiver. He's fast. He's got everything going for him here. Even, you know, anywhere in the country, he would be a star athlete. Not just because he's in a smaller state or that sort of thing here. He, Randy, will tell everybody that during his senior year, he was recruited. for scholarships by, quote, all the major colleges in the Northwest, which I believe.

There's no, no, he was all state, first team in two straight years. That's, that's where you get, you know, that's who you offer scholarships to. So I don't doubt that at all here. You know, he's six to, 170 pounds of muscle. Doing great. Now, during high school, though, again, exposing himself, exposing himself keeps happening. while in high school he exposes himself to a group of teenage girls near the what is that equina how the fuck do you say that ykeena jacian y a q uina ya q uina i'm going with ykeena if it's not

fuck it i'm sorry oregon yeah yeah yeah go on yeah it yeah it would be something weird in oregon it's always the wrong thing you're always wrong no matter what you do in oregon willamette no willamette okay sorry You came up? No, yeah, come on. Oh, man. A bunch of people with those names were, are you? Sandra, no, Sandra.

Fuck you. How's that? I don't know, okay? I don't care. I don't know and I don't care. So he was arrested for this, though. Yeah. Which is not good.

But his football coaches helped kind of cover it up. They talk to the cops. He's a great kid. His boys will be boys. He's a, you know, he's a first team, all everything. saying, let's not, this kid has a huge future. Let's not fuck this up for him, that sort of deal here. But his parents forced him to attend therapy after the incident, by the way.

Now, but that's included in things that they say he never did when he never had any problems as a kid. If your son got arrested for exposing himself to a bunch of girls, wouldn't you include that in some weird shit that he did? I would, yeah. I would too. Yeah, I'd say that's weird. a football teammate of his at Newport High says Randy was a little strange. I don't know how to explain it. After all this came out, you look back and maybe he was stranger than we thought he was at the time.

So he goes, maybe we just, he was such a star that we didn't really take his strangeness at the level we should have. Yeah. They said that he had an upset. This is the quote from this guy. He had an obsession with his hair. It was curly and he'd go out of his way to straighten his hair. He was overboard. That was that was then in the 60s and everyone had straight hair.

Then in the 70s, he perms it to get it curlier. Sure. So it's crazy. Another former teammates said, because they asked this teammate in a narcissistic way, he was overboard. Yeah. And the teammate said, definitely. He was just real concerned about how he looked. You just had a bad feeling about the guy.

You always felt there was something underneath his mask. Yeah, he is so, like, vain. It's insane, dude. It's a level. So much so that you can feel it. It's, yeah, you can feel it coming off of him. Like, I need to look perfect. Especially wide receivers, the perfect position for a guy like that, too.

That's in football, those are those guys. Yeah. Everything is perfect and my towel straight and my shit's got, I got my wristband and my gloves are perfect. And they're real into what they look like. And that's kind of how he is. That's the guy on the field that does the most like eye-catching shit too, because he's got to run a route that's impeccable too. Oh, yeah, yeah. Catch the ball.

That can be a showman thing. Go one-on-one with somebody. It's all a big, yeah, it's huge. So he graduates from high school in 1969. His criminal record is expunged. Nice. That's nice. Gotta get that thing out of the way.

That doesn't look good on the old permanent record. You know what I'm saying? It looks like a dick on your permanent record. Yeah, I see a, this looks like a dick and ball. It's a hard dick. Nice dick, Randy. I see it on your permanent record. I can see it right here.

So he attends Treasure Valley Community College in Ontario, Oregon. Now, this is what I don't understand. He's recruited by all these major colleges. Yeah. I don't know if they told him because he got arrested. I don't know if that's like they told him go to a community college and play football for a couple years and then go to a major college, get all that out. You know, show that you're not a bad risk maybe. I'm not sure why he did that.

But he ends up doing that before he goes there. the summer after he graduates high school, he worked for Pacific Northwest Bell, the telephone company, driving trucks and cleaning and repairing telephone booths when they existed. So on the fall of 69, that's when he enrolled at Treasure Valley Community College,

and not a big town, it's all the way across Oregon over by the Idaho border. So there's no, I can't find a reason why he would go to a community college on the other side of the state. Yeah, don't look at me. Makes no sense.

Getting away from everything. That's the only reason, right? That's it. That's all I could think of. His friend from high school, Mike Schaefer, was his roommate there. So that's all I can think is his friend was like, I'm going to this college over there. And he's like, fuck it, I'll go with you. I'll go too.

So he plays two years at Treasure Valley Community College in Ontario. We're going to get into a little bit of sports stuff here for about no stats, though, about two seconds. From 1969 to 1971. Here, one of his guy, one of his teammates. is a guy named Ted Spencer, who was a cornerback and a returner, a punt-and-kick returner, and Spencer played two seasons with Randy

before both of them transferred, as we'll talk about, to another school. This, but not together, just separately. This guy said, I knew him pretty well. We lived in the same dorm. When we got to Portland, he lived off campus. I lived in the high-rise apartments on campus when they opened.

He was a decent talent. He had some ability. He goes on to say, I guess you'd call him somewhat of a ladies man. He wasn't a bad-looking guy. He was athletic. Typical white guy who got a little bit of money. They get a little extra from the ladies.

He got what he needed. Typical white guy I got a little bit of money. He comes from an upper middle-class family. Going to get a little bit of gatch. Yep, a little bit. He said he did his thing. He didn't seem odd. He was somewhat quiet at Treasure Valley.

When we got to Portland State, he still didn't make a lot of noise. the problem is he is going to get arrested several times in this period, which is not good. The first time he gets arrested here is going to be for vandalizing his ex-girlfriend's apartment. Now, he'll claim that that's not what happened and it's a misunderstanding. We'll find out here. Okay. At Treasure Valley, he's got about a C-plus average, so he's not really... Not lighten the world on fire educationally.

But from what we understand at this point, his goal is to make it to the NFL. So he really doesn't give two shits about grades. He's got to concentrate on football. From what I understand. He was captain of the varsity football team. And he's also on the varsity basketball team at Treasure Valley. And he's also on the weightlifting squad as well. So he's participating in all these sports.

In track, he held the freshman record for the long jump, 22 feet, six and a half inches. That's good, right? I mean, it's better than anybody else there ever did. So it must be decent, I guess. I don't know if it's like, you know, world class or Olympic level, but it's good. 28 feet seems like an awful long jump. I want to say like 28 feet is a world record or something maybe, something like that. I don't know where that number just came out of my ass.

How did you know that? I don't know. I think I heard that one time somewhere along 28 feet. I think so. 29 feet. 29 feet. 29 feet. I got it right.

Exactly. Yes. Yeah. 29 feet. I think it was, wow, okay, I got to stop. Who is that? That's weird. Mike Powell?

Yeah, I've heard the name, but I don't know what the fuck that is. I think that person was, no, that's the greatest long jump final ever. Carl Lewis and Mike Powell and Mike Powell has, is it literally, Carl Lewis? Carl Lewis, the runner, the sprinter. Is it Carl Lewis? No, it is Mike Powell that has it, 29, 4 and a quarter. Wow. I think I heard that on a sitcom in passing.

like 30 years ago or something. Do you know who has it for the women? You know her name, shit. I do. Yeah, I could join her cursing. I was going to say, that was the only one I was going to guess. It's the only one I know.

Either that or Marion Jones, because we did an episode. Yeah, and she's great too. They would just take that away from her anyway. Yeah, yeah, because she was on. Because she likes to smoke weed and other things. Well, yeah, she did steroids. Yeah, she got busted for her and her fucking boyfriend or whatever. Yeah.

Yeah. She have somebody, I might be mixing people up. Oh, I'm mixing up Jeremy Stevens and what's her name? Never mind. Oh, yeah. But Marion Jones. No, Tim Montgomery. That's what.

She was involved in that one because he's a track guy. We did the Tim Montgomery episode. I think that's where they, she can do. I don't care. Take all of them that you want. Oh, let's see what you can do. Let's see what you can do. I don't give a shit if your liver's going to fall out later.

That's your problem. If you'll compromise and sell that for a gold. metal, do it. I don't care. I don't fucking care. Yeah, people do. Why don't we give a fuck? People compromise their health. You think a fucking stock guy or like some hedge fund manager, you think it's healthy for him to sleep two hours a night and do all that

crazy work and all that. Those guys drop dead from a heart attack when they're 42. Nobody goes, oh. As long as your 401k's fine. That's it. Nobody cares. You want to fucking beat on these people? They're still human beings. It's still a human being doing something outrageous. Who cares whether or not they did drugs to do it? I

don't. I don't give a shit. Just tell me you're doing them. That's all. Yeah, just don't lie to me. Don't lie to me and say you ate liver for this. I just ate liver, man. That's all it was. No, that's our last Patreon, by the way. So, Randy, one of the things that he got in trouble for, here's his friend, said, quote, Randy stole some cassette tapes from some guy in the dorm. Okay. I knew he had those tapes, but when the guy asked about them, Randy lied and said he didn't have them. I told him it was his story. I told him it was his story to tell and I wouldn't say anything. None of my fucking business is what he said. But when it came down to his getting in trouble overtaking them,

he'd have to tell the truth. Later, he confessed to the dorm proctor that he had them all along and he gave them back. So, I mean, that's just kind of a shitty, you know, bad character. That doesn't make you a murderer. He dated a girl at Treasure Valley Community College.

And I'm not sure if this is her real name or just a pseudonym for the book, Sharon McNeil. he was very attached to her, seemed to be, you know, more attached to her than he was any other girl that he's ever gone out with, really likes her. Now, his roommate, Schaefer, said Sharon did her share of catting around and they were having troubles. Anyway, they broke up. So, yeah, she's going out. She's a college girl.

You know what I mean? Who knows? So very age-appropriate, normal shit there. And it's not going to last. No, that's what I mean. It's a college relationship. It's fleeting. You know what I mean?

We're both in community college. What are we talking about here? So Randy couldn't handle this, though. No? Couldn't handle a rejection, which again, he needs like a friend that goes, Randy, you're a handsome fucking football star. Fuck this girl.

Who cares? Yeah. You can find a girl anywhere, but no, I don't know if no one told him that or if he wouldn't listen or what here. So then on August 3, 1970, he's accused of breaking into her home. and trashing her room.

Entry had been made through a bathroom window. The room is trashed, but there's only one thing stolen in the whole place. And that is a stuffed animal. What? A small bull, a present that Randy gave to Sharon. I'm taking my tiny because I got three rings on a thing at the fair. Yeah, I don't want her to have my crane trophy. Nope.

I don't want her to have my death leopard. mirror that I want at the fair is what he just said. Yeah, that's the equivalent of my friend going back for click. Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing. It's useless, man, leave it. Holy shit, but he's arrested for this in charge with vandalizing. And that.

So, and he's actually found not guilty in a jury trial, though. Really? Because one thing Randy figures out, if you're going to do shit, don't leave evidence. So there is no fingerprints. He wore gloves. They have no physical evidence that he did it. All they have is the obviousness of the fact that one thing was stolen. And it's the thing he gave her and she just broke up with him.

But still, you can't convict on that. You can't convict on, well, duh, he obviously did it. That's not good enough apparently in court. So there's also been incidents around here in Ontario of exposing himself as well. So he moves on from Treasure Valley. transfers to Mount Hood Community College for a semester. His roommate, Mike Schaefer from high school there, went and enrolled at a different college.

The woman, Sharon McNeil, who he vandalized her place, her parents did not want him to, they did not want her to talk to Randy anymore, obviously. And she said, yeah, totally, I won't do that here. So he doesn't, he leaves the area, but he bombards her with letters and phone calls. Okay. Just keeps them coming.

And this is what he does always. If he meets a girl at a bar and talks to her for an hour and gets her number, for the next however long, he's going to be calling her at weird time, sending her weird shit in the mail. He later on, I don't know how he had time in the day for correspondence. Because this fucking guy, he was like a Victorian woman who would like wake up and, you know, I've got to do my correspondences. send my calling cards and all that shit out. Like, that's, that was his life.

He, he, he, he would talk to six different women in a night for long periods of time while writing all these other women letters and sending them all over the place. Get some rest, man. No, it's super weird. His dick is hard all the time. Wow. No rest for this guy in his hard dick. So, um, anyway, she, you know, he keeps doing this.

So she ends up getting an unlisted phone number. Um, she said that. almost 10 years after she had last seen him. Yeah. At community college there, she received a letter from him containing a nude photo of himself. 10 years later. 10 years.

Here's my dick. That's how fucking long. Once you were in his web, in his mind, you were part of his world. And he's showing his trunk. He's showing everybody is his fucking trunk. He's very proud of it. Wow.

And he doesn't forget. No. The final message from him to this woman was a Christmas card in December of 1980. So, I mean, that's how long he's doing this for. She said she never gave him any encouragement during the decade after she got her phone number unlisted to get away from him. Between the vandalizing incident and the final Christmas card, she had never talked to him

once, never gave him any encouragement. He just kept it coming. She would wonder why the fuck this guy won't just leave me alone. Yeah. But she was never scared of him. She was just like it was pathetic, you know. Yeah, he's in love with me, and I can't believe it. It's ridiculous.

Now, the roommate, Mike Schaefer, who's not his roommate anymore, but he said, after we left Treasure Valley, Randy never visited me at SOC. A long time later, I got letters from him where he sounded quite religious and was quoting the Bible. It just wasn't him, not the Randy I know. Is that right? And Jesus said, expose thy balls in the son of the day. Yeah. Part of the hairs, like the water. Like the waters that Moses must have had to fucking walk through.

So for the next two summers, he would return to the Oregon Coast to work for the Georgia Pacific plywood company. And there, Randy would get another girlfriend during that time, if you can call it that. He's like 21. His girlfriend at that time was an eighth grader. No. Eighth grade is 13 years old. That's not a girlfriend. That's a girl you're going to molest.

That's what that is. That's a victim. That's yes. I'd like to introduce you to my victim here. This is Tracy. Just because you have conversations with her doesn't make her any less of a victim. No, fuck no. Her name is Tracy Connors.

And Tracy said he was home for the summer from Treasure Valley. I met him at the Newport High School football field where he and his friends were playing football. imagine oh man you're 20 21 years old yeah you're in college guy you're all this and you see a child hanging around the football field and you're like i'm gonna go talk to her get her number right quick wow that is so fucking weird she said i used to go and watch them and i got to know randy pretty well who wants to talk to a child when you're that age it was just friendly he was sort of the big brother i never had he was always nice to me and we really didn't have any dates,

but I spent a lot of time with him. He'd drive me home from the football field and the black Volkswagen bug he had then. Why do all these guys have Volkswagen bugs? John Douglas did like a whole thing on that and Mine Hunter about the bug because he's trying to figure it out too. He's like, it is the chosen car for serial killers.

I should be the worst. Yeah, you should be a... I've done a lot of these things. I had a lot of the same experiences. I heard somebody's psychological like workup like profile and I went oh my god it's Jimmy Wiseman It was so I'll tell you about it after the show

I don't blow up your spot on the thing No no no no no it was like whoa That's Jimmy holy shit Don't let people hear how bad I really am No I'll give you your secrets safe with me As all other secrets are as you know As we talk about before the show too So she said she spent a lot of time with him,

drive me home in the bug. It had a sunroof and Randy always had rakes sticking out of it. He took rakes along. It makes sense. He took rakes along to smooth out the long jump pits at the tracks he would go to. So he just had a rake hanging out of a top of a Volkswagen. Where the fuck else would have fit in a Volkswagen? Yeah, it doesn't fit.

That's funny though. That is very funny. So she basically, for her it was like Hero Ward. ship type thing. He was like this big cool guy and an older guy and kind of big brother type and she's only in the eighth grade and all that kind of thing. On one time

one occasion here, Randy kind of freaked her out a little bit. She was about 14, maybe 15. And Randy was a little over 20. And his parents were out of town and he invited her to spend the night in his house with him. Which is

super normal when you're a 20 year old. She said she drank two beers with him and then she was thrilled when he kissed her a few times. Oh boy. When he molested her a bit is basically what she's saying. The encounter escalated to petting that resulted in Randy busting a nut in his pants, I think. Or maybe outside the pants. We're not sure.

But he came. He likes to have his dick out and he comes pretty quick as we'll find out here. So she did not want to have intercourse saying I don't do things like that, she said. And at the time, she said, quote, he just said, okay, and went to sleep in his own bed. I slept all night in another bed, and that's all there was to it. Wow. They didn't try to rape her or anything like that, which is good. And she said she would have done just about anything for him, but she just wasn't ready to have sex yet and didn't want to have sex, which good.

She, I'm glad that she had a decent enough, a good enough upbringing to have the balls to tell somebody no. Just to tell somebody no, you know what I mean? If I don't want to do that, you're not doing that to me. because you want to. That's good. So she even, this is wild, Randy had her try to get, try to help him

reconcile with Sharon, the one from, that he broke into her. I'll get my ex back because she walks. She'll fuck me. Will you do that? She said one time Randy had me call up this girl over by Treasure Valley. He couldn't do it because her parents wouldn't let her date him anymore.

He said they'd accused him of breaking and entering their house. He said he'd just taken back all the things he'd given her. Except for that girl, he never seemed to have a steady girlfriend. At the end of the first summer, I knew him. He went back to college and I didn't see him for a long time. He did send me a couple of letters from school, but I didn't hear from him again until after I'd graduated and was married.

Wow. So she remembers much later on, she remembered Randy as a happy, funny, good person. She said he stayed in shape and was real clean and fun to be with. He had a great memory and he was sincere. sincere, not a phony. If you needed help, Randy would help you. He was always macho, and his father always wanted Randy to be something big. It seems like he tried really hard to be what his parents wanted, but he always thought his sisters were neat and could do no wrong in his folks' eyes. Wow. So that's, that was what she got out of him. So she was, she was only a 15, but her eyes were

wide fucking open. She was taking, taking everything in here. She did acknowledge that Randy was a little sneaky at times and particularly good at planning things out. He's good at kind of making a little plot and carrying it out here. She said, quote, one time he was going to make money by getting 10 cases of Coors beer in Idaho and bringing them back to sell to the kids at Newport High at a profit. He brought the beer and hid it behind some church in town. He sold me a case, but before he could sell the rest of it, somebody found it and stole it. He asked me about that.

as if I might know who'd done it, but I didn't know. He wasn't really mad, but he lost money on that deal. But, I mean, that's just some college kid shit to make a few extra bucks. I wouldn't look at that and be like, oh, he's going to kill so many people. You know, he's trying to do so. That's like, you know, I bought an ounce for whatever and I'm selling eights for a $5 markup or some shit. Like, that's just, you know, probably to make his own beer money. That's all.

And he only asked that person because he sold you drinks a minute ago and you might be the only person that he thinks knows where that booze is. Where his fucking stash is here. According to Tracy, Randy was very concerned about what other people thought of him. This is the weird part, particularly his high school friends. In college, he still gave a fuck about what they thought about him back home and what they'd all be talking about. him and you know his high school friends be saying if he's a loser if he's a winner and that would make that somehow affects his life yeah how his high school friends think of him which is hilarious right I couldn't care less what the fuck my high school friends think of me don't

care not give a fuck haven't thought about them in a long time don't give a shit never did so she said after he went to prison that first time he asked me if Mike Schaefer was really ashamed of him because he'd been in prison Oh. So that's where he's at. I heard he's ashamed of me. Ashamed of him. She said she continued for years and on and off friendship with Randy.

And, you know, she said she could never visualize him doing any of the things he's accused of doing. It just sounds like a foreign, different person. So the spring of 1971, he is behind in what he feels is his schedule that he's set for himself to be able to play in the NFL. He's behind. He's behind. He said by now he should have been playing. He should be a starter on a PAC-8 team. You know, University of Washington, Washington, Oregon, one of these big schools and a starter. He said, you know, this is, you got to get with it. You can't be 27 and a white wide receiver and expect to get work. It's not going to, you know, you haven't done anything. So, you know, he's Treasure Valley. didn't, there's no scouts

looking at community colleges really for football back then at all. It's not like now where everybody had video on them when you could find somebody anywhere. A scout had to physically go drive the fucking Treasure Valley and watch you play football. Now they just type your at in on Instagram and see the reels that you've posted of your

workouts. Dude, it's crazy. Sarah's niece is in like the eighth grade and she likes, wants to, she plays softball and they told her if you want to have any chance of getting in college, you have to have an Instagram now with videos and all the posting. She's fucking 13 years old, dude. It's ridiculous. It's crazy time, man. You have to know exactly what you want to do from birth and be working toward that actively,

not just on your own time, but like making social media videos. And if you don't, there's enough people and more to fill those teams. It's over. It's crazy. It's ridiculous. So he basically had nightmares that he would be. you know, it'd be 30 years old and a loser and never have made it to the NFL and, you know, it really, really bothered him. And he felt in sports was the area where he felt great because he was always just so good at it. He never really didn't have that feeling like he was less than at all here. So he was always working out.

He was doing that shit. And he came home for for vacations and summers and he's still a big hero there. But he wants to be a big hero to fucking everybody, man. Yeah. That's it. So, um, he's dumped. He, you know, he always feels like, uh, apparently he had a problem. He felt like he didn't know if he, if he fucked good enough. He didn't know if his dick was big enough. Yeah, that's, we're all in the dark about that. So I mean, that's, that's everybody, but most people just figure it out and move on. They don't let it take over their entire psyche. So that's, that's kind of what he's up to. Um, he feel, he thought by the way, the reason why he broke into Sharon's house he thought maybe he'd feel better after he took the presents back. I thought he would feel

better for that. But it just got him in trouble and then she really didn't like him so he felt worse. So everything he does to try to make himself feel better is just a worse idea that makes him feel worse because he's a fucking idiot. So in the end, he finally concluded that you know what? It's Sharon.

It was Sharon's fault. She was that's what it was. Yeah. She ran off and told her fucking her parents, made him look like an asshole. That's what women do, he thought. They act all nice, but they're demanding any more than you, more from you than you can give. Right.

Okay. Yeah. But still, you can't kill them. You know what I mean? You can't do anything, really. Either start fucking guys or shut up. That's all. I don't know what to tell you.

Yeah, what do you want to do? How do you feel about dicks? I don't know, man. You don't want a piece of that. You don't want any part of that, I promise. Probably not. It seems like he really likes the ladies. So he kept thinking if he could just talk to her, it would be fine.

But every time he tried, she'd tell him to go away and wouldn't return his letters or do anything like that here. So, you know, then he was like, okay, there's other women. There's other women. But he's had Sharon just lingering in his brain here the whole time. In the spring of 1971, he registers for classes at Portland State University. It's at least a, you know, I think it's a Division I school anyway. It's not a big school. It's not Oregon, but it's a decent school here. And he wants to play football there. The coaches are think great here. It's not a PAC-8 school at the time, but they do play. They have a couple of big schools on their schedule.

And it's a big enough school to where scouts actually watch these games. Oh. So this is actually not bad. And he thinks he can do it from Portland State. So he participates in spring practice. Also worked for Georgia Pacific, the plywood company for the entire summer and all of that kind of thing. He got food stamps from the County Public Welfare Commission in September of 71. Oh. Because he was at school doing his thing here.

So he didn't make a lot of money. He attended Portland State on a full-time basis from 71 to the winter semester of 73. He majored in health education and physical education and had like a C, C, C plus average, nothing special. But he's a really, really special member of the football team because he's a badass. He's really great, really, really good here. He managed to combine spring training for football with track as well somehow.

I don't know how to think you did that. Weird. He also took courses in handball, wrestling, weightlifting, and gymnastics as well. he became a part-time cook at the burger chef restaurant near Portland State. Okay. So he's doing that here. The thing is, though, he's always quiet before this. But he wasn't really a show-off and all that kind of thing.

So here he becomes religious. Oh. He was redshirted at his first season at Portland State, which means he's not going to play. He's just going to be on the team. do all the practices but not be suited up for games. He's active in the student group, the Campus Crusade for Christ. Is that a thing? That was a thing.

Let's make sure those are all spelled with C's people. Yeah, all C's, yeah. All C's. Woodfield's former teammate there said he was a part of a small Bible study group with me. I wanted to say that lasted about a year and a half. We had a basketball team called the God Squad. He played for that. Yeah, because the Bloc Squad was huge at this time.

Yeah, he's like Kelvin's muscle met in gemstones. That's the same shit. He came across being very spiritual. He was relatively faithful with his attendance, but toward the end, he became very irregular. He started doing weird things. A few of us were going to go on a weekend retreat. He didn't show up. He had some excuse, and then a few days later, after the retreat, I saw a friend from Newport,

who said he saw Randy real early in the morning. morning on the day of the retreat in a shady area in downtown Portland. Oh. He said that was strange. He said he was going to be one place, but he was really somewhere else. What he said didn't jive with what the guy, what he did. What he said didn't jive with what the guy said, the other guy. So he also just might not want to hang out with you today.

Leave him a fuck along. Yeah. You want to go away somewhere to talk about the fucking Bible for days? Maybe not, you know? So he really gets into relation. religion, though. I mean, one of the teammates describes him as soft-spoken, mild-mannered, and very, very religious. Is that right? This is why I never trust religious people, because I feel like it's masking something.

I don't know. A lot of times, I'm sure some people are. So he was a member of the Fellowship of the Portland State University Campus Crusade for Christ and the fellowship of Christian athletes, which became a very big deal later on. He was also known to only date Christian girls. Okay, yeah, that makes sense because he has a big problem with loose girls. Yeah, loose women. And yeah, that girl was catting around on him and all that shit. So he really embraced this fucking religion, though, man.

Really just holding on tight to it. Yeah, but he's on the football field. Everything is fine. He's actually scouts are looking at him from the pros because he's got skills and they're actually interested in him. He's also doing, he can basically date anybody he wants. He's a handsome guy on the football team. All the girls at school like him. He still likes to expose himself to women, though.

That's a problem. Yeah, that's a thing, yeah. There was a lot of episodes of exhibitionism here. He would drive around to other places to expose himself to people. A destination flashing. Yeah, I'm going to go there and show him a dick to somebody. Now, is he hard the whole time or does he wait until he gets there? until he gets there.

Fluff it up, I'm not sure. Edge himself a little, I don't know. Possibly, yeah. He would drive over the Columbia River to be in Vancouver, Washington. And the thing is, too, back then especially, because now we kind of, like I said, now we know the flashers that could lead to something much worse. Back then women just looked at it as they'd just be like, and then they just keep walking and forget about it. Roll their eyes. Yeah, it's like they might tell their friend.

Yeah, some guy fucking showed his dick to me today. They'd be like, ew, gross. and then he'd start talking about something else. They didn't report it to the police, really. Because they weren't touched or hurt, so they didn't really report it. There was more of an inconvenience to report it. I'm not going to spend two hours talking to some fucking cop

because I saw a guy's dick for three seconds. They didn't realize that it could go further than that. You know, they were considered harmless at the time. So, Randy, I don't know, he loved it. He loved showing his dick to everybody. Yeah, yeah. He was doing amazing. One of his teammates said that he led,

with the teammate called a double life, which, you know, not really fucking... A criminal life? And... Well, is that what he'd have his... No, he'd have all his Christian stuff

and Christian and I'm, you know, only crusade for Christ and all that shit. Then his friend said, quote, he'd date show girls. He'd go to topless clubs. When he moved into an apartment by himself, he'd have these girls over. He fooled a lot of us for a long time.

So he has this thing that he needs. everybody else to be straight-laced conservative, keep your tits put away. Yeah, you know, religious people. Yeah, and then he wants to be a fucking degenerate. Yeah. Yeah. We've seen this repeatedly from politicians for years and years and years. Yeah, a hypocrite.

Exactly. That's why I always say anybody who never curses is definitely a pedophile. And I'll use definitely and never and I'll use them, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't trust these people. I just don't trust you. Unless you show me cracks, I don't trust you because that means a, that means you have a huge crack. The crack is bad. Yeah.

You've just cocked it and like slapped like some like shit over it, like wet cement over it. And like you, I don't want to know about it. It's in there. It's still leaking. It's still leaking. It's still in there. Someone who shows me their cracks, I go, okay, at least that's a human being. I understand them.

Yeah. And that's, they're probably showing all their cracks. Yeah. They don't care. So a former teammate said a mutual friend lived with Randy in a park blocks apartment for a while. And he said, I lived in the same apartment complex. The mutual friend said, and he said that the mutual friend, quote, told me a lot of stories about Randy. Okay.

Now, he was recruited originally by PSU head football coach Don Reed, but then Reed left for Oregon after Randy's redshirt year. Yeah. So the 1971 PSU football press guide listed Woodfield as a second string flanker behind Scott Saxton as a junior on the 72 team. They also below him, it said sprinter in track gives solidarity in reserve role, has the potential. Potential. He caught five passes for 97 yards that year. Has the potential. Yes.

Now, his first adult arrest that Matt. comes in Vancouver, Washington on August 7, 1972, when he is charged with indecent exposure, and he's convicted of it. Got him, yeah. Got him. He gets a suspended sentence, though, with no probation. Okay.

Just basically, don't fuck around again. We know what you do. Don't do it. Yep. And there's no indication that anybody at Portland State knew anything about this, by the way. Okay. Yeah.

They had no clue. I mean, how would you? You know what I mean? Back then. So, yep, he's apprehended in the act. of exposing himself to a young girl. Oh my God with his pants down. Yep, got literally caught with his dick out.

So charged with indecent exposure and there's that. So on campus though, he's still Mr. Christian Clean. Yeah. Mr. Christian Clean attending religious meetings and doing well in class and getting better on the field and everything's doing fucking wonderful. He went to Lake Tahoe in 72 and 73 to. to participate in conferences for the Campus Crusade for Christ. Oh. And he works a janitor's job at the Driftwood Lodge to support himself.

So he, by the way, he saves everything. Really? Every bit of correspondence with anybody. Really? When he moves, it's just like letters and cards and papers that he's moving, basically. He has like a backpack full of clothes and then. A U-Haul truck full of fucking papers and shit. It's so weird.

He would carry this shit around with him. Old checks he would keep letters, cards, miscellaneous bullshit. He's just a real weird guy. He filled several notebooks with just thoughts on religion. Oh, boy. One contained his, quote, personal testimony as a born-again Christian. Wow. That's gold after he's arrested.

That's wonderful. He said that he deplored his constant seeking, basically. He said that he had three goals in life to be successful in school, to get the highest honors that I could in my range of athletics and to be popular with all the girls. Now, he says those things aren't things you should seek in there, but that's all he's interested in. So it's interesting.

He said that he turned away from religion because he thought his life, was more exciting without the rules and regulations that constrained all of his friends. Yeah, that's it. He wrote that he had come to see that his former achievements were actually only trophies or memories I could hang on the wall. Quote, I suddenly found myself going nowhere in school and just wandering around. So, interesting. Now, he's kind of estranged from his father. His father was concerned about him with his Christianity.

Yeah? This is still the time when someone. Someone went loopy crazy Christian. You didn't go, oh, good for them. You went, he's a religious nutcase. That's what you'd say. Anybody who paid more than a passing lip service and maybe, you know, go to church on Sunday or whatever the fuck, they're considered fucking weird. And somehow started in the late 70s and then plowed right through till now, this weird church culture has grown up where you go there every day and you give them all your fucking money and it's all you do.

and it's fucking creepy. I'm sorry. I'm not even sorry. I don't give a fuck. If you do that, you're weird. You're fucking weird. And I don't trust you and you're probably diddling people. Sorry.

That's what we think of you. That's what the normals think of you. The bummer for me is that I see them take advantage of my mother and I don't like that. No, they, old people. Yeah, old people. That's their bread and fucking butter is taking advantage of old people. People that have guilt over how they've lived their lives. And I'm not afraid to die.

So I got no guilt. The old... I'm a piece of shit and I'm probably going to hell. I'm afraid to die, but it's not because I'm going to hell. I just don't want to not fucking do stuff. I want to watch shit on TV. You know what I mean? It's over.

I want to see if mine under comes back. Once the lights off, it's off. I don't believe in any of that shit. So it's like, what are we talking about? Anyway, you can believe in any of that shit you want. But when you get too into it, it becomes weird and I think you're up to something. That's all. Pushing it. I don't like the fucking.

Yeah. Just do it to yourself. Do what you do. I don't give a fuck. No. So they would, they would argue about this because he was like, you're all all into this religion now with maniacal craziness here. So now, obviously, maybe that could have helped Randy if he could have really concentrate it on religion instead of rape and maybe that would have been good for him. But I don't think it would. I don't think it was going to work. So it didn't, none of this is helping his sexual obsessions. And I think that's part of it too. is it's like, you know, again, family guy, the old family guy bit with Tom Cruise running away going,

you can't catch me gay thoughts, you can't catch me. Like, I feel like that's what he's doing with religion. Like, you can't catch me, horniness. You can't catch me. That's why he's up there on an airplane standing on the wings because there's no gay thoughts up there. You can't catch me gay thoughts. There's no other penises up here.

I didn't see any. Just mine. Running a dirt bike off a canyon because there's no gay thoughts out there. No gay thoughts there. Desperation and sheer will to live. No shit, man. So he's still into this. He's still trying to find women.

By the way, he considers his dick super big by now. Oh, really? He thinks his dick is like extra great. It's big. He thinks it's extra great. By the way, it's not. But he thinks it is. Why do we know it's not big?

We'll find out because he shows it to fucking everybody. There's like hundreds of people that can give testimony on his dick and exactly the veins that are in it or not in it. So a lot of the women that he would flash himself to by the way were they were like confused. Oh? Because normally when, and this is true,

normally when guys are flashing you, it's usually like hideous guys or like an old man in a trench coat with his little shrivel dick hanging there or something. Let me show you my fucking stringy sinewy ball bag or whatever the fuck. But look at how long it is. This guy, they look

at his face and they're like, oh, look at this handsome guy. Oh, why does he have his dick out? What's going on? So all of them are like... Asked to see it for Christ's sake. And that's what they think, too. All of them are like, if this guy would have just talked to me, I would have probably wanted to see his dick. You didn't have to just jump out and show it to me and make me freaked out.

So that's the weird part. Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to give it a little liquor to there. So I don't know why he's doing that, but he's fucking doing it. He would stand in the shadows with his fucking pants unzipped. and he'd whispered, look at me, look at me. Really? Yeah, yeah, and they would like look over because they'd hear something and then he would have his dick out and he'd be showing it to him.

It's real weird. Just vocally hoping, that's crazy. Yeah, like, kind of like, pst, over here. Yeah. Okay, look at me, look at me. Oh, you're handsome. Ha! Maybe it is funny.

It would be really funny if like then the woman's like boyfriend stepped up on the fucking curb and was like, Like, what are you doing and punched him in the face? Like, or whatever the fuck. Or she tased him. That would be kind of funny. Which is kind of creepy at this point, right?

So. The look at me part makes it funny. It's so, but look at me. Look at this. Look at what I got. That's gross. Man. So for going into his senior season in 73,

and this is all the marbles here, because this is like his last year of eligibility, pretty much. And he's got to make a showing this year of himself, if he wants to be in the NFL. So the 73 press guide said that, quote, the big boss, meaning the coach, points with pride to four outstanding receivers.

Scott Saxton, Randy Woodfield, Ken Smith, and Mike Gardner. Okay. So in the press guide, there's only 13 players' pictures, like their actual photos, and Randy's one of them. Wow.

So they expect him to be a star. He wears number 82. they say in the little you know blurb under the little blurb under his his picture it says made giant strides last season toward becoming a top-notch receiver and adequate

blocker became much tougher saw some starting action average 19.4 yards on five receptions has 10 flat speed not bad here now January 22nd or June 22nd 1973 right before this season starts

before the summer practices and everything. He is caught by a police officer for exposing himself to a woman in Portland. Oh. Yes. He is then sentenced to one year of probation for that. Okay. Now that winter, he was arrested for public indecency as well and sentenced to five years

probation. Okay. So went from suspended sentence to one year probation to now, five years probation. It was bad. He just keeps doing it. It's like he just does it over and over. He keeps getting convicted for the same thing. So it's upping it. He led the team this year.

And these numbers are going to sound very pedestrian, but you have to imagine what a kind of third tier college quarterback was back then. And this is the times, too, where you were still allowed to interfere with receivers and all that kind of shit. And receivers numbers relied heavily on them. It's all him. It's all quarterback. So he led the team with 18 catches for 216 yards.

Okay. This is one of the worst teams in the school's history, by the way. They're terrible. He's got 300 yards total. Yeah, 216 is his fucking... Oh, not even three. Not 260. Two 16.

Uh-oh. The team goes 1 in 10. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. They lose to Boise State 64 to 7. This is before Boise State was a thing. before they had a blue field or any other. Everybody knew anything about the guy proposing to the cheerleader, this is nothing.

This is garbage. Nevada Reno, that powerhouse football squad, beat them 59 nothing. Ouch. Jesus, and Puget Sound beat the shit out of them 54 to 7. They've got a team. Wow. Jesus. His wide receivers coach said, quote, when he was with me, he was the nicest, most gentleman,

one of the nicest most gentlemanly kids I ever knew. He was quiet, hardworking, and real coachable. He sucked in everything I tried to coach him. That's a weird way to put that. I talked to a scout and I think I helped him get looked at. Oh,

by Green Bay. Okay. And the coach goes on to say, the reason he only caught 18 passes as a senior is our offense, our offense, we ran the ball. We never threw it. We ran the option.

I was coaching, receivers that nobody would throw the ball to, he said. So it was just pointless. It's not his fault. This coach said, by the way, he lost contact with Randy once he left Portland State. So he can send letters to all these women, but not to his college coach. So his offensive coordinator during those two years said he was a pretty good athlete. He was very fast. He had good hands. He ran good routes. He was kind of a loner. He didn't have a lot of friends. Seemed like he was by himself a lot. He then he did. He then, he didn't. He Then said one summer, it might have been his junior year, he got into some trouble in a parking lot outside of Memorial Coliseum.

He was exposing himself. I can't remember if we found out then or we found out later. You tried to work with him and tried to help him. He had some really good potential as a player, but he was having trouble between his ears. I love when old men say that, between your ears. That's your stupid brain. I like that. Two other assistant coaches during those years said some stuff about him.

One said he was a pretty good player, a pretty good track man, and a pretty good kid. In athletics, we had absolutely no problem with him. The secondary coach for Teeth. That was the coach of the secondary, not like a secondary level coach, said, I remember he didn't like to go over the middle. He liked the out patterns. That's how you can tell what kind of a receiver. Well, he's big guy. He's big for a receiver.

But I mean, he's not. Compared to defensive backs, he's a big guy. Yeah. But that's just. That's no fun. that's just if you are a foofy I want glory but none of the dirt receiver

you don't go over the middle I don't want to get hit you know exactly what kind of receiver he is is if he's got alligator arms over the middle and all that kind of shit that means they're afraid to get hit he's like I'll just run the out patterns and outrun everybody which is

not how it works so he said he liked the out patterns contact wasn't his forte it'll mess up his hair of course not yeah he said he was a good solid receiver, though. He always led us in prayer. He had the prettiest most innocent-looking blonde girlfriend. It caught my eye. She was really a sweet appearing girl. The most I ever saw them doing

was holding hands. I heard a rumor that during daily doubles in preseason practice, he got caught exposing himself at Dunaway Park. A couple of teammates here, these are brothers Anthony and Charles Stodemeyer, said, quote, we dogged briefly, but I wasn't really drawn, but I wasn't drawn really to get to know him. I've never heard that as a way of being we dogged. That person means. It means they were

friends. Like he was my dog and I was his dog. We dog. Have you ever heard that before? We all me. I'd never heard that in a past tense before. We dogged briefly, especially with briefly afterwards. It's very strange. We briefly dogged after that at all.

Real weird shit. Now we dogged briefly, but I wasn't drawn to really get to know him. Then his brother, Anthony, who was a quarterback, said, strange guy was really heavy with the fellowship of Christian athletes. He'd talk about it a lot in the locker room. He came off as real religious type person, but he was just different from the rest of his teammates.

He was the one who didn't fit in. He'd say out of the blue off the wall statements. Do you think he's trying to preach to the guys to try to keep them from fucking the girls that he wants to fuck? Oh no, I think he just needs to, he has to show that he's a good guy. When you go out, this is what you look like. You put your

mask on, you put your veneer on, and you go out of the house. I mean, we all have that to a certain extent. I suppose, yeah. But not, you know, to this extent, to where I'm a Christian during the day and I'm exposing myself at night. Yeah, I did just tell you, don't tell these people how much of a piece of shit I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's true. It's, yeah. And with this, Like for me, I feel like I have to talk so fucking much during this Just to do all of like There's no way after Thousand-plus episodes of all this You don't know exactly who the fuck I am.

Like there's no way to hide it after that long. I think it's both. I mean, I'm just doing comments. You hide a lot more than me. You can show what you want to show And you don't have to fill in the gap. I can just go, I do this and they go, oh, Jimmy's that guy.

Yeah, exactly. They don't know anything. That's what I say it. And they don't know that I'm not that guy. No. I don't know at all. They know. They know.

You just, that's what a guy told me. It must be that guy. It's got to be that guy. Yeah. Like, I have to put out more than I want to because I have to read all the shit and fill the space. And then I'm frustrated when people think I'm a specific guy and I'm not that guy. Yeah, that's strange, isn't it? Yeah.

It's like, it's weird. When you have to fill space, it comes out. Yeah. Like, if I say something and you don't reply, I have to then talk more. I have to keep it going. You know what I'm saying? Think about that. Either out of there's dead air.

You could just stare at me and be like, I'm not saying shit. And I have to keep talking. I don't want to keep talking. I've heard that. People like, you just like to hear the sound of your own voice. No, I don't. I have to. There's no choice.

Either that or there's not going to be a sound of anybody's fucking voice. That's why I'm this side of the role too, because I don't want to talk. I don't want to have to. Because I'm single because my relationship fall apart because I don't want to talk. I don't want to be part of this. I got tears coming out of my eyes, man. Leave the fuck alone. Leave if you want.

I don't care. This is so fun. Oh, shit. Okay. This guy goes on to say, we had a bunch of receivers way better than him who got injured early in the season. He ran good routes and had good speed. His hands weren't that great. He used to drop a lot of passes.

Every quarterback says that, by the way. About him? Yeah, he drops everything. Every quarterback says their receivers drop a lot of passes. It's never them. It's never the ball. Never the ball you threw. None of that.

They just keep dropping it. I don't know why. My spiral sucks with that camp. Yeah. So I never would take that from a quarterback. The last two seasons of Peyton Manning's career, it's you, Peyton, you fucking asshole. You're throwing wounded ducks out there.

The next spiral you throw this season will be the first one, you fuck. No, shit. There's a reason why Tim Tebow's receivers weren't catching them. It's because they look like punts coming at them. Those passes don't come over end over end at you. Yeah, he threw one good ball and it happened to be in the playoffs and they won a game. That was wild. I thought he was great.

No, he's fucking terrible. Oh, man. Another Charles Stademeyer again said he wasn't like a star or anything, but he was a solid player. I didn't hang out with him that much. I thought he was a decent guy in the confines of our football team. Seems like he had a bit of an ego. He thought he was better than he was, but a lot of guys think that. You have to think that.

If you don't, you're going to fail at this. Yeah, you're on a tightrope. That's like when you're a comic, you have to walk out there and in your brain you're telling them yourself, I'm the funniest motherfucker that ever lived. because if you don't, then those people aren't going to laugh at you. They all know that you're not. Because you just hold us all you're not. So you have to have a bit of delusion in your own brain, at least to be able to do your best.

Some of them more than others. Oh, yeah. Some more than others. Oh, fuck yeah. I mean, like, it's the fighter pilot thing. Like, when they do psychological testing, they take all the guys that are narcissistic personalities and send them to flight school. Get in there. Yeah.

You're crazy. enough to think no one can ever shoot you down, stupid, so do that. So there's uses. This guy went on to say he was always grooming himself. That even carried over to the way he played. See what I mean? You can tell a receiver's personality by the way they fucking play. Seems like he was more interested in looking cute out there than getting the job done.

Uh-oh. Exactly what we said here. The linebacker coach said he was quiet and abstract. That's a very strange, quiet and abstract. quite an abstract. How do you do that? He made my girlfriend nervous. 44 years later, she's my wife.

She had an eerie feeling about the guy. He made her uneasy. Interesting. Very interesting. He went on to say, back then, Scott Saxton was your typical wide receiver type. Pretty friendly with the ladies. Woodfield was the opposite.

He hung out with the offensive linemen at team meals or busing somewhere. But after football, He didn't hang out with anybody. He was an athletic kid, but his football skills weren't the best. That's why everybody was so shocked when the Packers took him, as we'll talk about here. A guy who was a quarterback there also, he lived with a player who was Woodfield's classmate at Newport High. So he was a roommate with one of his high school friends.

And he said, because of that, Randy was around our apartment. He said, I got to know him in depth a little more. He was friendly, actually, and he was a friend. Sort of a suave, sophisticated fella, confident in himself, but not to the point of being cocky. After we left Portland State, we maintained distant contact, but not anything close. A Christmas card or whatever the fuck. Now, Saxton in that other wide receiver said that he would room with Woodfield on some road trips. And he said he was a soft-spoken guy, pretty laid back with not a not a.

an aggressive personality. I remember him oftentimes laying on the bed reading the Bible. He would often quote scripture, but was never somebody who pushed Christianity on you. Whoa. He never engaged himself with any of the activities of the team, going out, drinking, raising hell, carousing, wasn't judgmental at all, just didn't do it.

Yeah. So this is all the shit he would love to do. Right. And he'll, he will, but he'll do it on his own. He can't let anybody else see him doing it. that because that's not the perfect image. That's not the perfect image that he have a Christian and all that. Rather than just being a normal kid and being like, I'm not a Christian.

I'm also not a piece of shit. I'm a normal 22-year-old guy with hormones. I like to go out drinking with my friends and see a pair of big tits and try to get my hands on him later on in the night. That would be fine. Yeah. I wouldn't begrudge him that. I'd be like, oh, that's your normal guy. Who doesn't love that?

That's just normal, man. But not hanging out with the team doing all this shit. it's really strange. Saxton, the other fellow wide receiver said he ran really good pass routes, but just had fair hands and did not like contact. He did not like to get hit. Why would they draft this guy? He could run, but playing in a muddy football game,

he would not even have his jersey dirty. Is you what I'm saying? Called his shit, just based on that, you could tell. He's the guy that's like, I'll get muddy if I go over there. And then my jersey, I won't look as good. That's exactly what it was, man. He said he avoided contact. He would not go for a ball if he thought he was going to get hit.

In a way, he was a little bit of a joke among us. Maybe the coaches thought he was all that, but the rest of us were like, he got drafted. Are you kidding me? Because in the NFL, if you're playing back in the day, you know, the fucking. Then? Forg.

Christ almighty, the NFC fucking Central back then with the, you get the shit beaten out of you. Absolutely. Cold weather, too, snow. games in the mud outdoors and it was a mess. I think even the Vikings still played outside then in the snow and you got to catch a ball and then try to not get hit and that

that ball's coming at a hotter miles and that hurts so bad. That shit is moving when it's frozen. Yeah absolutely. There were also reports of peeping and petty thefts on campus. So everyone's kind of seeing little cracks in

the armor here. He's arrested on February 22nd, 1974. That's the public indecency that he received five years probation for. And counseling was a mandatory part of the probation, but he never did it and no one forced him to.

Okay. So they said, you have to go to counseling and he just said, no. And they were like, okay, that's fine. So they didn't indicate, records didn't indicate that he ever actually touched or hurt any of these women. Just showed them there's dick. Didn't grab them.

Oh, yeah. It's absolutely too much. We're just saying there's a difference. You cross, you fucking cross a big giant fucking, you know, monstrous mile wide valley when you start touching people. Yeah. But all that is, in retrospect, is just getting up the nerve to do it because what you're doing is just as bad. And eventually just showing yourself isn't going to be the same for your brain and you're like, maybe I can get her to touch it. And then it's a different thing at that point. Right. Now I can, yeah, it's the same as jerking off. If he could come and satisfy himself just by jerking off, he'd do that. But it doesn't work anymore.

That's, he needs this, to have thoughts of or some shit. And the judges would, they'd give him a probation because he seemed like a good risk. He's a clean cut, good looking guy from a good family, nice background. Teach community. Athlete. Yeah. Good student. I mean, Christian fellowship guy, all this different shit. So they're like, I mean, Christ. He's, yeah, what else you got? He was working to support himself at the techs, at the techronics company in Beaverton, Oregon. And, you know, so he was doing that. He had a job. So the judges all kind of gave him a break.

And there's prison overcrowding and all that. We're going to put some star college athlete who gets good grades in prison. What's the point? So, yeah, he was arrested, getting sentenced for this probation and doing all that kind of thing. He would report to his probation officer. always. Now 1975, he's again arrested for public

and decency. Uh-oh. And he chose to drop out of college shy of graduating with his degree in physical education. So he goes to Portland State 71, 72, 73.

And here. Now, January 29th and 30th of 1974 is the 1974 NFL draft. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, boy.

Jimmy, number one pick in the 1974 NFL draft is Autogram. That's right, 1944. Too Tall Jones, baby. Is that right? It is Ed Too Tall Jones. I was going to say you know who the guy is. You've heard of him, but I don't know if you pick him.

Too tall, Bo Matthews, John Hicks, Wayman Bryant, John Dutton. Ed O'Neill. Look at that. Hey. Al Bundy himself. Then he went on to start. what was that one what is it called the one with the kid

Married with children No no the other one with the kid Modern family Oh Dutch Dutch Dutch Dutch yeah we talked about Dutch With the kid the movie And Dutch we know it

We have such a weird shorthand We don't nail in the movie with the kid We both have the same references To everything that we know So we're always going to come up with that Yeah Firework I'm looking at this

I love that so much The fireworks scene I'm looking at this first round and there's a lot of guys who played, you know, a good amount of years here in the league. But nobody, I'm looking for like household names that people would know. Only one I can really find in the first round is Lynn Swan, who's...

Really? He was... Number 21 overall by Pittsburgh. One of the most handsome sports broadcasters in history. Yes, and a wide receiver, by the way, who's like a handsome pretty guy who will take a hit. He'll also get the shit knocked out of him, get hurt all the time, but he would take the fucking hit, though. Did the Steelers draft him?

Yeah, Steelers drafted him. They had a very good draft this year because they got him in the first round here and they get somebody else or now. He was their first round pick. This is the one where like consecutive rounds, they get great people. In the second round,

Hall of Famer Dave Casper to Oakland, by the way, a tight end. You met him? Yeah. Interesting. Did he have his faculties about him? White, my boy is he. Oh, yeah.

Big mustache on him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Casper.

He doesn't look like a football player. He looks like just a normal-ass dad. They called him the friendly ghost. Yeah. And then Hendrickson, the lineman, looks like an animal. He looks like he's leading a pack of Mongols into a fucking territory to overtake it. I think they played on the same team. They have Dave Casper and his.

at the same time though I mean. Absolutely. They were on the same time throughout the whole 70s. Pittsburgh in the second round, by the way, picks up another Hall of Fame. Stop it. First two rounds, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame. Jack Lambert. They got Lambert then.

Middle linebacker in the second round. Not too fucking shabby. Who'd they pick up in the third round here? Anybody decent out? This guy was... Wow. Randy was drafted the same year that Jack Lambert was right. Wow. Lynn Swan, Jack Lambert.

I'm looking now. I'm just interested in Pittsburgh's draft this year because they seem to really do a great job. They don't think they had a third round pick here. Fourth round, though, they pick another Hall of Famer. What? Pittsburgh, they pick John Stallworth, the other wide receiver. So they got their future Super Bowl, you know,

dynasty wide receivers in the same year. Swan Stallward, plug them in, get Jack Lambert in middle there, and there we go. Now we got a team. That's pretty impressive, man. And then we'll skip a few rounds down all the way up to picks. This is round 17, which you don't hear a lot about. 17, the 428th pick overall.

Yeah. Green Bay selects Randy Woodfield from Portland State. My God, that's a long day. That is a long. Eat your heart out, Aaron Rogers. Yeah, fuck you, Shador Sanders. Try waiting around 17. 17.

Jesus Christ, that's... Holy shit. Only three players from the 17th round. I'm sorry, four players ever play a snap in the NFL for the 17th round. Yeah, it's not an area you're looking to get a lot of gold here. You know what I mean? By the way, February 5th, 1974, the WFL.

What? The WFL Western Football League? No, the World Football League, I believe that was at the time. I'm just glad it wasn't the women's... football league. No, no. The WFL I'm obsessed with, by the way. Really? I love defunct leagues. You guys know that. We've talked about it. I love the USFL and things like that. Basketball leagues, ABA. But the WFL is one of the most interesting things in the world. Came about in the mid-70s to try to compete with the NFL and they were like signing away guys and offering, they were offering

everybody's like starting quarterback, big giant contracts and all this crazy shit. Like they really came on strong. They stole three people from the Miami Dolphins. Like they're championship teams and all that kind of shit. Very interesting. And the league fell apart spectacularly. It's a wonderful, wonderful tale of failure. I love it so much. So much.

They have the Houston Texans, the Shreveport steamer, the New York stars, who then became the Charlotte Hornets later on after they were the Charlotte Stars for a minute. You might have seen me wearing some of these shirts because I have a bunch of these teams shirts. The Jacksonville Sharks, the Memphis Southman, the Burnton. Birmingham Americans, the Portland Storm, the Southern California Sun, the Philadelphia Bell, the just the Hawaiians, I think you know where they're from, the Chicago Fire, which is funny. The Florida Blazers. Did they do it?

God damn. They did. The Detroit Wheels, which is a cool shirt. I have that shirt, too. The Jeff Hart, the Tornadoes. The Memphis Southman, that's where Larry Zonka and those guys went. Now, in this league here, I'm looking at their draft. They also drafted Lynn Swan in their league, but in the second round.

They drafted all the same players, just, they're not signing with them at all here. Now, in the, what is this, the 432nd pick in the 36th round of the draft, the Houston Texans-Sleafport steamer, not steamers, steamer. Just one, yeah. Just one big shit left in Shreveport. with the dead last pick in the draft, they select Randy Woodfield from Portland State. Mr. Irrelevant himself here. The guy got drafted twice. Twice.

Very deep down into the fucking bowels. Yes, exactly. So he signs a contract here for $16,000 for the season, which wasn't terrible back then. I mean, it's rookie late round rookie money. but, and room and board and all that kind of shit. So, you know, whatever. He's got bonuses too. Oh.

If he makes the roster, he gets $2,500 extra. If he should catch 25 passes during the regular season, he gets $2,000 extra. Okay. If he catches 30 passes, he gets $3,000 extra. Okay. Not too shabby. Doing pretty well. So he's got a contract with the Green Bay fucking Packers signed.

signed. A signed deal with, and this is in 1974, the Packers were the dynasty of the 60s. I mean, they were the most famous team in America at this point. They were the big team. I'm going to say it, Grace. This is Grace right here. Doesn't get any better than that. All of your, you could, if you never took your dick out again to anyone who didn't want it, that's no one would ever heard about that shit. You could be an NFL star and be going forever. So let's leave it there for this week with him being drafted by the Packers. It's a good stuff. We got him from birth to the NFL.

Yeah. That's a good start for this thing here. So let's do that. And let's start there. And let's say thank you for listening to this crazy fucking episode. You are the best. And again, we'll figure out something for the ad free. We really will.

We tried so hard. We took less to make it better. for you. Like, we really did. To take less to try to, to be like, let's be good guys and not be sellouts. And then I feel like, you're a fucking sellout. It's like, what are you talking about? If I'm good, you know, let's fuck it.

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