Crime in Sports - The Child Whooping Paradox - Adrian Peterson - Part 2
Episode Date: March 10, 2026This week, we check back in with Adrian, as he recovers from losing a son. He also quickly gets in trouble for a "whooping" that he put on his 4 year old son. He tries to say that beatings are what ma...de him the man he became, but this beating seems to go beyond the norms, even for Texas, even though plenty of people say that he did nothing wrong. Pictures of the injuries horrify both a judge, and the NFL commissioner, and there are consequences in both of those arenas. But will the punishment fit the crime? Tell everyone that Jesus got you through the loss of your young son, as soon as you're done grieving one son, get in trouble for abusing another son, and make sure to never have a bit of remorse with Adrian Peterson - Part 2!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
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Things are starting to grow crazy.
As we left off, his two-year-old just died, I think.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, his young child just drowned in a pool while he wasn't around.
Well, he was being watched by so.
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I mean, he kind of did.
He left him with people.
And, yeah, they didn't watch him properly, apparently.
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Back into Adrian Peterson.
Like we said, he just lost a son,
which is obviously horrible.
Yeah.
For anybody, that's going to be a tragic turn for you.
Yeah, I don't know how anybody could silver line that shit.
No, that's, unless there's something real wrong with you, that's got to mess you up pretty good for a while, I would think, unless you have a super huge mental issue.
Or you can't imagine.
Or you go back in the middle of night a lot with that kid standing over your bed with a knife.
That would be if you were like Ted Bundy's mother, that might be different.
Yeah.
At least now I can get sleep.
Yeah, but this was a very small child, so I don't think he was willing.
I don't think...
Too much cutlery at that point in his young way.
I think this is just a tragedy no matter how we shake it.
This is just bad.
Also, don't shake babies.
Don't do that either.
Jesus.
As we'll find out other things you shouldn't do to babies here and young children throughout the rest of this episode.
October 28, 2013, this is after his, you know, his child has died and all that kind of thing.
There's a big fluff piece article on the faith of Adrian Peterson.
Yeah, he's got a lot of it, doesn't he?
Well, it's funny that the guy who has all this faith just keeps getting arrested.
That's wild.
It's really funny that he just cloaks himself in this poor shit all the time.
Well, faith doesn't replace morals or morality.
No.
Well, it does if you're in the public spotlight.
You can do that.
Sure.
You can get arrested a whole bunch of times.
Like he's done for dumb shit.
Yeah.
But doesn't replace character.
Then your kid can die.
And then for him, as much as it's horrible, obviously, that his kid die.
this will also kind of,
that also washes your public image.
Oh yeah.
No matter what dumb shit you've done,
if you get something tragic enough happens to you,
yeah.
People rally toward you.
Sure.
Not that Adrian would want that.
I'm saying,
I think he wouldn't mind,
you know,
the bad PR if his kid was alive,
but this could have washed his whole entire reputation.
Everybody would have forgot about every dumb shit he's done so far.
But instead,
yeah,
he,
no.
So he's going to,
he's going to double down on this and talk about his,
his faith and all of this shit.
here. He says, I work hard. I grind during the off season. He said that this past off season here,
they said last Christmas Eve, the Vikings final game of the season, he tore ligaments in his knee.
And he said, immediately when I took the hit, I knew something was wrong. I felt three pops in my left
knee. I just remember going down in so much pain and this was the Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, quote,
like Nancy Kerrigan. Three pops, huh? Three pops. He said, how am I going to bounce back from this?
So he said that I was able to grab my thoughts of despair, is what he said, and get rid of them.
He said, my dad came down from the stands and came into the locker room to talk to me,
and I remember telling him, this is a blessing in disguise, I'll come back stronger and better than I was before.
He said, what flashed in his mind was, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
And that right there was enough for me.
Yeah. Wow. Okay. So surgery was a week later on January 1st. And then he's got a, you know, the recovery process. And he did rehab during training camp. It didn't really play in the police. It didn't play in the preseason. But he returned ahead of schedule. From what I hear, Jesus does wonders with ACLs. That's his, you know, that's his best ligament from what I understand.
Forefront of the industry. Yeah. Of the industry. Exactly. It's like, yeah, it's, you know, there's like Tommy John surgery.
because the pitcher who had that done.
They usually call a real good ACL repair,
a Jesus Christ surgery, they call it.
The old JC, they said we're giving them.
He's real good at that.
You get a doctor named Philip.
That is your Philippians guy.
Philippians?
What are they?
Don't look at me for Bible fucking guidance.
I believe that's the quote for the all things through Christ,
our Lordship.
Oh, there you go.
I don't know what fucking chapter or verse,
but I think that's the book.
Including miraculous knee injury rehabs.
Yeah, yeah.
He apparently is interviewed by Tom Bearing, who is a 700 club reporter, and that's the Pat Robertson.
Oh, boy.
The Pat Robertson lunacy network, I like to call it.
Give them an exclusive?
He's talking to them, yeah.
This is wild, man.
They said, can you give us an example in the recovery where you have seen him,
companion you through this.
They're not even referencing.
They're not even saying like, you know,
so our listeners know who you're talking about, Jesus Christ.
Him.
They just say him.
They know.
They know who Him is on this channel.
There's only one Him.
Have you seen Him companion
you through this?
And Adrian said so many different times
through the rehab where I was down spiritually.
Stop finding Christ, athletes.
It's bad.
It's one of the rules of crime in sports.
I get people like religion.
He found him in his knee?
That's what he said.
Jesus popped out of my knee.
And he said so many different times through the rehab
where I was spiritually, down spiritually and just my body, mentally,
things I had to do.
There were different exercises to strengthen my leg
that was painful that I didn't want to endure at the time.
But you know, you have those thoughts go through your head.
You got the devil and he's got those darts.
What thoughts?
It's the devil coming for him.
So you can choose to bite on those
or you can choose to just block them out.
any any uh and then i'll finish the quote here just listen to the thoughts that god put in there so
any block those out too any bad thoughts you have which are human number one and also helpful a lot
of them sometimes they keep you out of the shit any of those things that's the devil right that's the
devil it is because you had a negative thought not that you're a human being and that's how your brain
works and you've got a conscience.
You're an analytical, fucking
whatever, an analytical
cyborg essentially.
Yeah, deep down in your heart, people
generally want to be good people.
Circumstance and environment often lend to doing
the opposite because you need
to survive.
I'm not even talking about that shit.
I'm just talking about, he's just talking about
negative thoughts.
Never mind, you know, robbing liquor stores
and killing Papa John's Pizza Men
and shitty apartment complexes in Indianapolis
as a reference to your stupid opinions.
As never mind all that shit.
This is just bad.
And I think that is circumstance and environment
requiring you to rob the pizza man.
And the reason to kill is outrageous.
There's no need to shoot the man over $27.
No, no, no.
That's wild from what we found out later on.
about that, but this, this any negative thought shit is the devil is just, it's absurd. It's the most
childlike fucking insane, crazy, dip shittery I've ever heard in my life. It's humans, you just
break shit down. You analyze things and you find some shit's got negative negativity in it. Some
shit's got positivity in it. Yeah. I don't get it. I don't get why they have to. And sometimes you
can turn that negative behavior and experience into a positive. That's the thing. There's
all of that in the mix. The point is to
even if you do embrace that
satanic lure, James,
if you bite that, that
Chartreuse, Satanistic lure.
Hopefully the consequence...
That's what that is. You get hooked on it. I grab you all right away.
Satan's stink things.
Spinner bait. It's a
Chartreuse Satan spinner.
It's good for Large Mouth Bass and Satan. That's
what they're good for. And for me when I'm
at a strip club at 3 in the morning.
In a lake.
Yeah, you never know.
Exactly.
But the point is like sometimes you can fuck up, man.
And you can take that, hopefully your consequences aren't so bad that it takes you a lifetime to recover.
But sometimes you can take that shitty experience, giggle about it, and then turn it into a positive and be good about things.
I agree.
Well, I mean, and some people, if they, if Jesus or whatever they want to believe in helps them do that, whatever.
I don't fucking care.
Don't tell me about it.
But whatever works for you.
you is fine. You know what I mean? I don't care. If you say, man, I've had such a shit time and then
I'm telling you, I turn to Satan and boy, my life has turned to ride. I go, great, good for you.
I don't fucking care. Good for you. You know what, James? Sometimes I do. I'm goddamn proud
of it. But I give no one any extra credit one way or the other for either of those. I don't care.
Whatever imaginary shit makes your mind work better, great. Who cares? I don't fucking care. Enjoy.
But he says...
Let the suffering be your own.
Yes, yes.
But he said, without him doing this recovery, him, meaning...
Without him.
Capital H.
I had no chance at all.
No chance to do this on my own.
No football players ever recovered from a knee injury without Jesus.
Jimmy, it's never happened, you know, obviously.
It's all Kimbo slice needed.
He'd still be alive today.
Thousands of players have come back from this injury.
Must have been Jesus and all of them.
None of them could have possibly endured it on their own.
Weird.
He kept my mind at ease doing the rehab.
For me, because I've used this principle my whole life, it was so easy to buy into it and know that you put this in God's hand, have faith, that simple process, your principles that you have, having faith and believing.
That's what he said.
He just put together a word salad because it's silly.
A pandering word salad.
Really all it is you're still youthful and can recover from things.
Yeah, you're youthful and a top-tier athlete who came from both your parents are top-tier athletes.
You are top 0.0.01% of fucking humans on this earth in terms of physicality.
And you're probably going to rebound from an injury like that much easier than say, I don't know, fat-ass me.
Or some 60-year-old guy or something.
Yeah.
This is a...
If I shred this knee, James, you're on your fucking own.
I'm not going to drag your ass through an airport.
I'll tell you that much.
I might get a scooter.
We might get front place.
You know what?
Never mind.
Jimmy, let's fuck up your knee.
We need that scooter.
I think we could really cruise through it.
I'm going to start practicing crossovers at the park every night.
I'm telling you.
I could have used that shit in Atlanta yesterday.
I could have used the fucking knee injury as I sprinted up a two-story high escalator to barely make my flight because fucking TSA took two hours.
They had driven us there.
On a cart honking, beeping and screaming, get out of the way.
Fat fuck's coming through.
Out of the way.
So, and again, don't care if you're in a religion.
Great.
I don't hold that against you.
That's fine.
I don't give a shit.
Whatever works for you, whatever keeps you from fucking trying to kill me and rob my house, terrific.
I don't give a fuck.
But this guy is just, you're, look at who you are and look at what shape you're in.
Guys break their neck in situations where no one would ever walk again.
And then they're walking in three months because they were insanely well-conditioned athletes at the time.
So their bodies are in better shape.
That bird guy, didn't he get back to walking eventually?
Yeah, I believe so.
And there's a bunch of examples of that of guys who are supposed to be paralyzed.
Yeah, he definitely did because he was driving a car, crashed it, and died.
So, yeah, there you go.
But there's tons of examples of guys who were told that, but because of the shape they're in, they recover just fine.
They can bounce back eventually.
You know, yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah, even the wrestler Magnum T.A. broke his neck.
They said, you're going to walk again?
He was fine.
Didn't wrestle anymore, obviously.
But he was totally fine after that because he was in a fun.
Not fine, but he recovered and walked because he was in amazing shape.
Had a fucking 23-inch neck or something.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot of muscles in there that are helping brace that break rather than letting it just explode.
Totally.
Chain reaction break every vertebrae all the way down to your fucking tailbone.
Yeah.
And if you're in great.
shape in your body's condition for it. It recovers
a lot faster, too. And he was on a bunch of
steroids, which I'm sure I didn't hurt either.
Probably not. Probably helped him in that
situation. So, this is
the question he gets next.
What has Jesus Christ done for you?
What does he mean
to you? Capital H again.
Tell me about your relationship
you have with him.
And he says, this
answer, it's almost like he didn't expect
the question. And it's
like, oh, well, you know, one of
answers like a politician before they figure out what their angle's going to be.
He said, Jesus Christ, he means the world to me.
I'm sorry, that's fucking hilarious.
Jesus Christ.
He means the world to me.
He means the world to me.
I mean, you know, what can you say about Jesus that hasn't been said already?
You know, nice guy and, you know, clean people's feet, I think, at one point.
Jesus Christ and then realized who he was talking to.
Oh, Jesus Christ, he means the world to me.
Damn, God damn, Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ, he means the world to me.
So many different situations I've been through my childhood and now my adulthood.
Again, word salad.
I lost my brother at a young age.
Here you go, there's specifics.
He got hit by a car right in front of me.
I had to be strong for my mom.
I held my tears and held her and comforted her during that time.
God just helped me get through that and made me stronger at a young age.
Jesus taught him to suppress emotions.
Keep it down.
It's not bad for you at all.
Swallow it.
He said through all the adversity and the hard times I've been through,
God has always been present.
I've always prayed to him and asked him to give me the strength to endure
and to help others and to better understand their situation
or whatever the situation I deal with in my personal life.
And he has always showed up.
Jesus doesn't call in sick a lot, I would think.
You know, he'd be...
It's pretty amazing.
He's got a 3,000 years streak.
I'm just showing up.
HR is very happy with his production, I believe.
He's, you know, no long lunches.
No, perfect attendants every year.
Every once in a while he'll get lost in the desert for a while.
You can't, it'll happen.
But he'll be back.
And the end of the year awards, though.
We get that one out of the way first because everybody knows it's coming.
He makes it up.
Yeah, he makes it up.
And then finally he closes this out with,
let's give him in their own words on this one.
And I think this one is so pious it really needs it in their own words.
We won't know what he's talking about here.
Okay.
In their own words, quote,
it brings hope and peace of mind knowing that God gave has only begotten son for us.
I'm able to look back now and know that on this day Jesus was born and gave us the opportunity to have eternal life.
No matter how many flaws we have, our God is so forgiving and understanding.
He'll never leave you or forsake you.
So that brings peace to me.
Yeah. I'm sure it does, Adrian.
Terrific.
So he ends up, you know, playing this year and not having a bad year, you'd think, like, with all the shit that's going on in 2013.
He did end up with 1266 yards that year, which is...
Solid.
Any other running back would be thrilled with that.
And how many games did he play?
14.
Yeah.
He missed the first two.
He played 14.
He averaged 4.5 a carry, which again, any running back would be pretty goddamn happy with.
September 12th, 2014, beginning of the next year.
Here is the observer, a newspaper.
They do a 60-second interview with Adrian Peterson.
What is that?
Quick one. Quickie.
It's in the newspaper.
How many fucking questions can you get out in 60?
Does the time stop when he answers?
I think they have him on a ticking clock.
Even if he's halfway through his last answer, they're like, oh, sorry, Adrian.
Sorry, AP.
It's all the time we have today.
Sorry.
But this is a newspaper.
What is time?
This is a newspaper.
I don't understand.
Nope, sorry.
He's in the car starting.
Adrian's like, what the fuck?
You just your engine noise and tires peeling out?
60 second.
They said, how did playing football as a young man give your life focus and direction?
He said, I was the kind of kid who always gave it my all.
If I had a goal, I kept it in sight.
That drive for getting to the end zone was always true for me off the field, too.
I'm a results-driven kind of guy.
Right.
He doesn't sound like he said that, by the way.
It doesn't sound like something he would say.
Sounds like something he wrote down.
Yeah.
Or it sounds like they got a hold of his publicist.
Or his publicist.
Yeah.
Do an interview with Adrian and Peterson.
We're just going to cut him out of it.
We'll get the middleman out.
Yeah, yeah.
Submit the questions ahead of time and we'll give you a written answer.
We'll only answer to the middleman.
Yeah.
Was your teenage football experience in Texas like Friday Night Lights?
It's the big scene.
The whole week builds for it.
And he said, it's true that football in Texas is a big deal, a really big deal.
But for me, it was more about the hard work in the game rather than the drama.
Yeah.
I'm just so focused.
I left the drama to the other guys and kept my eye on the game.
He said, you're considered the best running back in the NFL.
When did you first notice your super speed?
Okay.
This sounds like a fawning.
This sounds like like Stalin's personal newspaper man.
So when did you realize that your penis was so amazingly large and that you're so virile?
Well, I mean, I always knew that.
When did you notice that you were the best at fucking you could dunk a basketball from the foul line?
Stalin was famous for dunking a basketball.
When did you notice your super speed?
I'm three years into being the best running back in the league.
I've known this for several years.
Seven years in?
This is his eighth year.
This is crazy.
I knew it a long time.
I've known this for.
a very long time. He said, my mom always said that. As soon as I learned to walk, I was off and running.
Okay. They said, your own food allergy sparked your involvement with a campaign to raise awareness about life-threatening allergic reactions. How serious is your shellfish allergy?
Oh, it's shellfish, huh? Yeah, he said, all food allergies are serious and should be taken that way. I experienced
enphylaxis after eating foods that I had eaten in the past. It wasn't until then that I knew I had a life-threatening allergy or what to do.
Now with the Ready to Go campaign, I'm paying it forward by educating others about the fact that life happens.
And if you have life-threatening allergies, you've got to be prepared.
Well, where's Jesus in this?
He can't fix your ACL, but he can't make you able to eat a fucking little neck clam?
What's happening right now?
This is bullshit.
No snow crab legs for Adrian?
Wow.
That's what I'd be praying for.
What the fuck?
What's something most people don't know about Adrian Peterson?
he said I love playing pro ball, but the most fun I ever had was playing football in high school.
Yeah.
So that's simpler life.
Simpler life.
2014, Vikings are seven and nine.
Mediocre as fuck.
Yeah.
Let's see what we got for quarterbacks this year.
Who was this?
This was the Teddy Bridgewater.
That's his right here.
So he started most of those games.
We know how that worked out.
Yeah.
Not a bad quarterback, but injured as fucking.
He's, you know, he, I'll go the opposite.
He's a fucking terrible quarterback.
He played in Denver for a minute.
Well, that was after all those injuries, though.
When he was, like a rookie, he wasn't terrible.
When he was young with all that hope and, and.
Yeah, gleam in his eye.
Being, yeah, a little gleam.
Jesus must have abandoned him when he was.
Non-believer James.
God damn it's what happened.
Son of a bitch, he couldn't recover.
That's what happened.
He just couldn't get back there.
So, 2014,
he has, like I said, a pretty damn good year.
Not bad.
But September 12th, 2014, which by the way is, I believe, the same day this interview came out with him talking about his shellfish allergies.
It's him in a suit holding a football of the big smile.
He's also indicted and turns himself in.
So his publicist set up that interview to try to distract and circumvent.
We're going to get two articles on you in the paper.
One's not going to be great.
The other's going to be really fun.
I think you're going to like it.
That way, hopefully people see you right up the middle.
Yeah, it'll only take 60 seconds.
That's why he was on the way to turn himself in.
That's why he only had 60 seconds.
Not a lot of time right now.
Not a lot of time.
There's a warrant out for my arrest.
I got to go.
So they said a warrant issued Friday for the arrest of Vikings running back,
Adrian Peterson, after a grand jury in Texas indicted him for reckless or negligent.
an injury to a child.
Yeah, this one is so bad.
This is fucked up.
And this, I have, when this was going on, the amount of people that were like with a
camera in front of them and a microphone saying that this was fine.
Yeah.
Was shocking.
Unbelievable.
I mean, it was, it was a very similar group of people from very similar places, I should
say.
It was the, it was a southern raised, uh, great.
group.
And the amount of people.
Yeah.
Alabama.
Alabama.
Yeah.
This is very normal.
Which I'm not saying that's the only place people beat the shit out of their kids.
No.
Because I'm from an Italian family.
I don't think there was a lot of, I mean, I got the shit beaten out of me when I was a kid.
That was fine.
You know what I mean?
We had a, we had a belt, an old belt that the guy didn't wear anymore on the back of the pantry door.
And it had jingle bells on the door.
So when you heard those jingle bells, you knew you were about to get.
get your ass kicked. Yeah, yeah, no, my grandfather
had a similar, similar thing, but his was
the, uh, the barber strap.
Uh, yeah, it's, that you, that you, that you,
just a rigid ass, yeah, it sucks so much.
I didn't, he never hit me with that. I don't, I think my mom would have
stabbed him in the throat if he did that, but my other
grandmother boy, she worked me over good. So,
Italian grandma, you know, she's, and I, that's a whole other, you know,
she's from a whole other time. She, she wrote around
on, like, literally in, like, carts with donkeys and shit when she
was a kid, like, they didn't even have cars around there, so,
Like I said, weirdo foreigners, I kind of give them a pass.
But if you grew up in this country...
She hadn't even heard the milk does a body good campaign.
No, no, no.
They were hiding from the SS, for Christ's sake.
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But if you grew up in a certain era, I guess in the South, it's the same way.
But I don't know.
I just saw people get beat up a lot when I was a kid and I got smacked around and I didn't say, that's what the kids need.
I've never touched either one of my fucking kids.
It's crazy.
The switch whipping, though, is like.
With a weapon is wild.
It's above and beyond, though.
It's a lot.
They don't go get a stick.
They get a...
It's a whip.
It's a fucking whip.
It's also on purpose psychological trauma.
More psychological trauma you're inflicting on purpose.
Go pick the thing I'm going to beat you with.
It's so fucked up.
And then have that.
It's very fucked up.
That's what's fucked up about it.
It's really messed up.
And they've done a million studies that that's way worse
than if you just whack your kid spontaneously.
And it's way worse to hit them
with an object also and all that kind of thing.
So, you know, it's one thing if your kid runs out into traffic,
you might want to grab and smack them on the ass real quick,
go, don't ever do that again.
You're going to hit by a fucking car.
They're going for a fuck's wrong with you.
They're got a screwdriver headed for the fucking outlet or something.
Maybe that's a smack at that point to go, stop what you're doing,
just to shock them so they don't do what they're about to do.
That's going to hurt them worse.
Right, because this is still, even anything that I do is going to be minimal
compared to the damage that they're going to inflict on themselves.
It's like a surgery.
Like, yeah, we're going to cut you open and rip you out a little bit, but at least it's not, this is going to be way worse if we leave it in there.
It's almost that sort of thing.
Also, it's going to be way worse if you try to perform this shit at home with a fucking butter knife.
It's so weird.
So he traveled to Texas to turn himself in.
He was booked in the county jail.
I think he did that interview while he was in Texas.
He posted a $15,000 bond and was out in 30 minutes.
He will not play at the game against the Patriots, which I'm sure.
sure the Vikings are pretty pissed off about. He's been deactivated. He's not suspended. He's
going to still be paid as officials investigate. They obtained a draft of the police report,
which says that Peterson admitted that in his words, he did, quote, whoop one of his children.
Last May, while the child was visiting him at his home near Houston. The punishment happened
after Peterson's son pushed another of Peterson's children off a motorbike video game, the report
says during a...
That was the...
Yeah.
Infraction?
That was the major thing.
Yeah.
I don't get that.
Yeah.
Seems like that's a good...
That's a good time for a...
That's a good...
If you're a parent, you should look at that as, okay, here's an opportunity for a
teaching situation.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I'm going to take both these kids and I'm going to sit them down and bore the fuck out
of them and also threaten them at this point.
This is as a father when you threaten.
When you sit down and you talk to them, you talk to them, you talk to them, you
Tell them why it's wrong, and then you go, and if you ever do it again, I'm going to smack the shit out of you.
You're not really going to do it.
But this is why it's wrong, and this is why you shouldn't do it again.
Perfect empty threat opportunity.
Perfect empty threat opportunity.
For fear.
You go, you keep doing that to him.
I'll do that to you at the end after.
That's what happens, but you don't actually do it.
I didn't realize it was a shove off a fucking radmobile.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
He's, wow.
So during a Skype session,
with his mom back in Minnesota, the four-year-old boy asked if he could tell. Four? No, I'm four.
You can't even know. Okay. What I was saying was for like a 10-year-old, you'd sit them down and go,
hey, eight, listen, don't do that? And if you do it again, you don't want me to smack you, do you?
And you wouldn't do it. A four-year-old, four-year-olds just do that. You had you sit down and
push kids. You explain that that's not okay. And the amount of times you have to redirect a four-year-old is
amazing.
I mean...
Also, the amount of times
you have to repeat yourself
to a four-year-old
because they don't fucking know.
I saw there's a study
a smart dog
as smart as a four-year-old.
A four-year-old
and a half
and a pretty intelligent dog
are the same.
Makes sense.
Yeah, and a dog
will still shit in the house
once in a while.
So, you know what I'm saying?
It happens.
So the four-year-old asked
if he could tell her mom something
or tell his mom something.
And
Adrian said, go ahead and tell her and show her what happened.
So he said, go ahead.
Show her.
So the boy said he got a whooping with a switch.
A four-year-old, you got a hit with a fucking object?
But James, it's...
I get it, but four?
That sentence is so minimal compared to what he really did.
I know.
It's so fucked up.
But even if you just take it as this.
Yeah.
You got a stick and hit a four-year-old with it.
Yeah.
He's four.
Wow.
Now, when he returned to Eden Prairie, the mother took him to a doctor.
The doctor told investigators, they have to do by law.
They have to tell about abuse that leaves fucking marks.
The doctor told the investigators the boy had a number of lacerations.
Cuts.
Fucking cuts.
This is, if you ever seen roots, this is what we're talking about.
Two areas of his body.
Maybe not the same as roots, but lacerations on a child's back is crazy.
Even the goddamn
fucking slave people
and roots didn't do this to four year olds.
Right.
This is crazy.
So the doctor told investigators
that the boy had a number of lacerations
on his thighs along with bruise-like marks
on his lower back and buttocks
and cuts on his hand.
Defensive wounds.
That's what that is.
And I mean, when it happened,
I remember a report that the switch
wrapped around his leg and hit him in the test.
Yes.
Was he?
doing this to a naked child?
If it wraps around hitching the balls,
I don't think you have to be naked.
But how do you get lacerations through pants?
That's a good question.
If you're, denim is going to be difficult to lacerate through.
Drop your pants and hit them with a weapon.
That's wild.
Fuck everything bad that happens to you.
I don't care.
And I know we're going to have people to listen that disagree with that somehow.
There's no fucking way you can disagree with that.
Fucking, I remember so much.
many people on television.
People with college degrees sitting on television.
I mean, they played football, so the degrees are shaky.
But still, I believe Michael Barclay came to his defense.
Wow.
Yeah, Michael Irvin, I believe.
Shannon at least, I believe if I'm not.
Shannon?
I'm not bad one.
Don't quote me on Shannon.
I believe Michael Irvin, though, was one that was like, yeah, that's what happens.
No, it does not.
No.
You do not take a child's pants off and hit them.
What we also know about Michael Irvin's upbringing was much different.
Michael Irvin, there was like 12 kids and they had no fucking money and all that and it was nobody had any education.
That I could see.
You have millions of dollars.
You don't have to beat your kids.
You can hire someone to have a fucking to lecture them if you want to.
What are you doing?
That's crazy.
If you, if you have to hit so hard to get through pants to make a laceration.
So there's no fucking way this child was wearing a, yeah.
I can't imagine hitting a four-year-old.
A four-year-old is a fragile little thing.
They're fragile.
Oh, boy.
My nephew's four, the younger one.
He's fucking fragile.
Those might be my favorite children.
Yeah.
I could crush his body if I wanted to.
With my physicality, I could rip him limb from limb.
He's so fragile.
I think that's the fun part about them, because the sheer arrogance of them not realizing how fucking little they are.
They're like cocky drunks coming out of a bar at 2 a.m.
Like, who wants a piece of me, motherfucker?
What's up?
Yeah.
Hey, nice pussy.
Yeah.
I said you girls got a nice pussy.
What are you going to do about it?
Like, that's the four-year-old.
They don't get fun.
They're fun to trip in the grass.
Yeah, yeah.
They're not going to hurt themselves.
No.
You should then pick him up and beat him with a stick.
How about that?
They're fun to pants and smash with a flimsy stick.
I can't imagine taking my four-year-old nephew and beating him with a stick.
I can't imagine you.
That's crazy.
my children when they were four, but this is a current
four-year-old that I'm thinking about. I'm like, he's
so little. He's so
fragile. That's all lashing, man.
It's so
fucked up. It's fucked, man.
So, the police report said the doctor
described some of the marks as open
wounds in termed a child abuse.
Another examiner agreed, calling
the cuts extensive. So
the report also states the four-year-old
had been hit with a belt.
That's what they
said what was, with a belt?
Also, in addition to the switch.
We're talking a switch and a belt.
That's why the balls got hit because a belt wraps around.
And that Peterson put leaves in the boy's mouth while he was being hit with the switch with his pants down.
Pants off.
Unbelievable, man.
The child told, oh my God, told the mother that Adrian likes belts and switches and has a whooping room.
a whooping room.
A specific place.
Like some sort of secret police or something.
Yeah.
That's insane.
This is where we sweat people.
Yeah.
That's fucking crazy.
Photographs from the Houston Police Report showed pictures of the injuries.
Another showed Peterson demonstrating the kind of switch he used.
Right here about this.
It's like a baseball player show.
You know those old pictures of Babe Ruth when he's like showing a guy's bat?
I think it's one of those.
He was like, yeah, I use this to beat my kid with.
Oh, boy.
The report also includes text messages between Peterson and the boy's mother.
First, he texted her, you will be mad at me about his leg.
Dude, I don't know how she wasn't on a plane at that point.
I'll be, I'm going to stab you about his leg, motherfucker.
You're going to wish your ACL was the only thing wrong with you when I get done with you.
Mad.
I mean, you're going to jail.
Yeah.
Yeah, no shit.
Then he texted, quote, he got about five pops more than normal.
Or five more pops than normal.
He didn't drop one tier.
He's tough as nails.
That means you beat him before.
And he's decided that I'm going to take the prisoner approach, which is,
think about a four-year-old already.
Already doesn't even have an appropriate emotional reaction to something that should be scary
because they've had it tempered into the run.
At four.
at four
Adrian.
Now think about that psychology.
Put that in a 25-year-old
full-grown fucking man
and you got a problem.
You know what I'm saying?
You've got a danger to society.
You got a problem.
Either that or somebody
with an insanely popular
YouTube account, one or the two.
Or both, I should say.
Incredible TikTok following.
Huge TikTok following.
Or at minimum, a huge commissary account.
That could be one of the other.
And a bunch of women
trying to fuck him.
Yep.
So in further text messages, Peterson allegedly said,
never do I go overboard, but all my kids know,
hey, daddy has the biggest heart,
but don't play no games when it comes to acting right.
When investigators asked him about it,
he told them that he regarded it as normal spanking
and not excessive.
He's like, that's what I do.
Yeah.
And he told investigators, quote,
to be honest with you,
I feel very confident with my actions,
because I know my intent.
That's when they asked him about
if he would ever reconsider using switches in the future.
He said that he would, quote,
never eliminate whooping my kids
because I know how being spanked has helped my life.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
I know how this is.
Because I've never studied psychology for one fucking second.
So, you know, I know better.
Okay.
Wow. A grand jury seated earlier in the month decided not to charge Peterson,
but the Montgomery County prosecutor, Phil Grant, said in a press conference that after seeing the photos of the injuries,
the grand jury thought that Peterson went beyond reasonable discipline.
He said, obviously, parents are entitled to discipline their child as they see fit,
except for when that discipline exceeds what the community would say is reasonable.
He also said, whoever leaked the photos and documents will face punishment as well.
Oh, really?
But that's the reason why.
Okay, wow.
He said in the state of Texas,
investigations of child abuse are confidential
under the Texas family code.
Now, we don't need to have pictures
of a four-year-old with his pants down out there, probably.
But the report,
I want to know who the fuck's beating their kids.
Sorry, that shouldn't be confident.
I get that it's to help the kid,
but the kid doesn't have a public reputation.
What are we talking about?
How does that?
Is that like hiding the victims of sexual abuse type of thing?
Is that the same scenario, probably?
It's probably awful over child abuse.
We don't hide the records of a parent who is an abuser.
That's true.
I mean,
are an adult that's a sexual abuser.
What's the difference?
I don't get it.
So they said it's inappropriate.
It shouldn't have happened and we're going to cooperate with law enforcement authorities to find out who did it, meaning leaking that shit.
I love when the leak is a bigger problem than it's like fucking.
Yeah, who's the actual action?
Who gives the shit?
Why don't you hit a child?
That's all it matters.
He added that the case is.
in preliminary stages and will likely be several months until it's ready for trial.
They said, now Peterson's attorney said the indictment follows Adrian's full cooperation with
authorities who have been looking into this matter.
Adrian is a loving father who used his judgment as a parent to discipline his son.
He used the same kind of discipline with his child that he experienced growing up in East Texas.
Adrian has never hidden from what's happened.
He has cooperated fully with authorities and voluntarily testified before the grand jury for
several hours. Adrian will address
the charges with the same respect and responsiveness
that he has brought to this inquiry from the
beginning. It's important to remember that
Adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply
regrets the unintentional injury.
Well, you could have not had it happen by
not hitting him with a stick. That's the end of it.
That's how that would have. Deeply regrets.
A guy's texted
he got five more pops than usual, meaning
he gets a lot.
Yeah. And
if 10 is usual, he got
15? That's a lot.
That's a shitload. How many do you
hit a four-year-old? And he has a
whooping room. Yeah.
He made a room and his
Whatever you have a room in your house for
is what you're really into. I knew an old
man with a train room. Real into
fucking trains. You know, that's all he was into
all the time. He wore a fucking conductor hat
when he went out to dinner and shit. Like, super
into trains. If you have a themed room,
your way.
That's your hobby, bro. That's what you're
into. His hobby.
at this point is beating the shit out of his children.
Yeah, there's people that have theater
rooms because they're cinephiles.
Yeah, 50 shades of gray?
Dude at a fucking sex room. Why?
Super into that shit. Real into weird
shit and bondage and things and, yeah,
this is different. This is great. You got a room
to beat babies. You like to beat babies, man.
Wow. Now, they're talking about the NFL recently unveiled
a domestic policy, a domestic violence
policy, which stipulates a six-game
suspension for a first offense,
but allows for steeper penalties of children.
are involved.
Yeah.
So this is all mixed up together.
So he gets out of jail very quickly.
And he's deactivated and all that shit.
And, you know, he's trying to say everything's fine.
He's like, look, this is, it'll all get cleared up.
And, you know, this is what you do.
Reasonable.
He called it, he thought it was reasonable discipline.
And the standard says if it's not reasonable discipline, that's when a charge happened.
September 16th, 2014, in the USA Today, there's an article.
So this is going out to every goddamn hotel in the country is going to have a stack of these sitting there.
And this is a very common newspaper.
2014, Peterson shaped by Whippings.
That's the title.
Headline that.
Father often used a belt or switch, relatives and friends say.
Oh, my God.
So they say, David Cummings and Minnesota running.
back Adrian Peterson still talk about the frequent whippings Peterson's father administered,
and one whipping in particular.
Cummings said he and Peterson were leaving football practice while in middle school,
and Peterson's father, Nelson, was waiting in a nearby parking lot.
The crack dealer?
The guy who got sent away later, yeah.
Yeah, right.
He's got a crack money launderer.
Yeah, well, then later on, we found out he was, yeah, that's just the charges he pled to.
Right.
So the point is, you're a professional athlete.
you've succeeded beyond that man.
Your discipline slash parental raising and rearing should also elevate beyond that.
It shouldn't be Chris Carter even.
Chris Carter, I think, I swear to fuck, he cried about it.
Really?
Interesting.
I swear to God, Chris Carter cried on TV talking about my mom did this to me and I swore to my children.
I'd never do it to them.
I can't believe that this man who is the best at his position is stooping so low.
I can't believe how many panels of grown men I saw.
And it wasn't just, we're mentioning all black guys for some reason, but it was, there was
plenty of white guys too.
But there was plenty of white guys saying it to the same shit.
I grew up there and that's what they did.
And it was, it was just, it's a regional thing.
And it's, right.
It's strange.
It's like Michael Vick when he did the dog fighting tried to say, well, that's what you do down
here.
Well, no, it's not.
No.
Not, no.
We've, remember 1865?
That's part of it.
You can't do that either.
Sorry.
We were also just in Atlanta.
You got to be in the rest of society.
Did you see a single dog fight?
None of them.
None.
And nothing.
So anyway, now what initiated this parking lot confrontation is that school officials had called Nelson to report that Adrian had been disruptive in class.
He's not suspended.
He didn't get kicked out of school or expel.
He was disruptive.
So his friend David Cummings said his dad asked what happened and Adrian told him.
With that, Nelson Peterson,
unstrapped his belt and whipped Adrian in front of more than 20 students.
Oh, boy.
Very healthy.
He said, we still talk about it to this day, the Cummings guy said.
My dad was tough, but his dad was real tough.
Friends and relatives recall Nelson Peterson, to a lesser extent, even Adrian's mother, Benita,
as parents who raised their son with stern disciplinary style that included whippings.
Then again, corporal punishment is accepted and expected in many families across the region,
as well as in other parts of the country.
where's that?
What other parts of the country is that?
Where that's accepted?
I'm wondering where those are.
I think they all touch each other.
We all know where they are.
Maybe, like I said, maybe 40 years ago and back in certain ethnic bubbles in certain
Northeast, like I said, in Italian neighborhood, you got your ass beat by, that was just every kid got beat up.
But that was once the immigrants, the immigrant generation was out, then the next generation usually didn't beat their kids.
Like my parents didn't beat me.
It wasn't my parents that were really beating me.
It was the, you know, the older.
It was the old guard.
Yeah, the old guard.
They were the ones that were more into that.
So they say the question is whether Adrian Peterson crossed the line and disciplining his son here when he beat him with a tree branch.
You cut him.
Peter said that Peterson said, I've always believed.
that the way my parents disciplined me had a great deal with the success that I've enjoyed as a man.
Nelson Peterson declined to comment when asked whether he whipped his son.
What about him? Ask him about his crack dealing. See how that goes. Maybe that I'll answer about that.
His mom said she had no comments about the indictment as well. And that's probably for legal reasons.
So corporal punishment is legal in Texas, but going too far can result in a felony conviction that carries a prison sentence of two to ten years.
it's hard to make some beating of children acceptable,
but there's a certain weird line.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, put that in any other crime and see if that works.
Put that in the rape laws.
Put that in the rape laws.
You can sort of cajole them some,
and you can kind of force them.
But when you get to a certain point, then it's not okay.
We couldn't live with that as a society.
That would be crazy to have that.
Yeah, I mean.
We have to consent or not.
That's it.
That's the line.
We've drawn it.
You get said, I mean, you held her down and didn't choke her or anything.
You didn't have a gun to her head.
You'd be like, that's not, that would be crazy.
With punishment of a child, maybe that's where there should be some sort of license to have children.
Do you, how quick do you lose your temper?
Yes.
Based on being frustrated.
Oh, my God.
If you're so frustrated by behavior that your first reaction or your response to that is to find some sort of.
Flora somewhere.
Oh my God.
And use that as a weapon.
Crazy.
It's, I can't imagine, I just can't imagine grabbing something, breaking it off a tree.
And beating a child with a four-year-old, a preschooler.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And I don't think that like, I don't know.
Somebody that requires song to understand things.
To understand how long you should brush your teeth for and wear it a shit.
They require a very catchy little tune.
That's different.
Requires song and rhyme to remember how to tie a shoe.
That's a lot, I think.
That's a fucking lot.
I mean, I don't know, man.
I don't know what the goddamn line is there.
That's crazy.
So they say corporal punishment.
This is Scott McCown, a clinical professor at the University of Texas School of Law and Director of the Children's Rights Clinic.
I think we're going to know where he stands on this.
He said,
Corporal punishment's been held up,
held to be reasonable under some circumstances
and not reasonable on others.
Generally speaking, law enforcement and district attorneys
take the position that if there's injury
that requires medical attention,
unless there's an injury that requires medical attention,
it is not reasonable discipline, or if it is.
You know what I'm saying.
If you need medical attention,
that's not reasonable at that point.
If a doctor's involved, then you've gone too far.
Yeah.
So he said that Peterson has acknowledged injuring his son, but he also says that it wasn't his intent.
He also says that he sought counseling from a psychologist on other ways to discipline children.
Okay.
Maybe too little too late.
No shit after you beat him.
The kid's sack is injured, bro.
Yeah, that's, I would at that point, no.
And there were reports when, I mean, who's to know what exactly the,
injuries are, apart from some
medical description
and such. But the news then
was like the whipping tore
his sack. Like the poor child's...
I don't remember if that was true or not,
but that's... I don't know if that's real. I remember seeing that
report, yeah. I heard that and I was
just aghast.
You should never hit a four-year-old
in the balls, really, any...
Territ, not terror? Just it should
never happen. And sure, I'm
sure he wasn't aiming at it, but
from what I understand he was hitting his thigh.
and the switch?
Because the switch is not a rigid switch.
You grabbed the flimsy one on purpose so that it...
I think it was the belt that hit him.
That was the point.
The belt wrapped around his leg.
Yeah, because he said he hit him with a stick and a belt.
Which one's more likely to wrap around hit your nuts sack?
Probably the bell.
Well, the point is the stick is you get a switch that's flimsy so that when you hit them, it wraps.
Because, I mean, you throw a belt around a thing, Indiana Jones can swing on it.
You know what I mean?
So, whereas a stick isn't going to do that.
But usually the belt's folded in half or twice so that it like...
wax into the ass is the point of it when it whips.
It would still flop, though.
I don't know.
I don't know which one happened.
But I don't know that that gets all the way around.
I would literally say the switch.
Because the belts get folded in half when you get hit.
You don't get hit with a long-ass belt.
They get folded in half so that they don't wrap.
Yeah.
I think it's possible either way.
I've never been cut by a belt, but I've been cut by a switch.
Yeah, we don't know that the nuts were cut though.
So that's what I mean.
Either way, I'm saying.
My nuts would happen either way.
I'll emphasize that.
That's good.
I was saying it could happen either way, I think.
Certainly.
But I tend to lean on the switch being the one that would cut hardest and easiest, but they also have.
Well, cut.
Yeah, there's no argument that a switch would cut more.
But wrap around to the nuts is what we were talking about.
That's a different thing completely.
That could happen either way, honestly.
I would say that's either one.
And they get the switch that Southerners like to hit with is they want it so that it wraps.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the point of it.
Some people want it for...
Some people, I think, want it for like a Kendo stick.
They're like, get me a thick one.
I don't think that's the...
Yeah.
I don't think that's the historical reason people hit kids with them.
They want them to be like a sapling, like a flimsy ass.
Which mimics what?
What is that?
Yeah, oh, I know exactly what it's poor.
That's what I mean.
It's real fucking weird.
Yeah, it's fucked up.
It's weird.
So Lynn Davis, who's CEO of the Dallas Children's Advocacy Center, says charges are often set aside if it's a parent's first offense.
Oh, you know.
What?
And the parent is willing to get counseling.
Like, oh, they just don't know any better in the 21st century.
Oh, my God.
I'm sorry, but you can't say, oh, this is all great here.
And then go, people don't know things that we knew 50 years ago in the 21st century because they're, it's just where they're from.
That's crazy.
They knew better.
The same with Michael Vic.
You knew that fighting dogs was bad.
I don't care where you grew up or what the traditions were.
By 2004, I think you knew that that was wrong, probably.
Yeah.
You know it was at least frowned upon by a large sect of society.
Yeah, you knew it.
You knew it.
So this person says, my guess is, did that happen to Adrian as a kid?
Quite possibly.
But that was 20 years ago.
We've advanced, hopefully, as a society.
Yeah.
Exactly.
They said every child deserves the same protection regardless of their parents.
upbringing. So two of Nelson Peterson's brothers, Larry and Greg Peterson and a former wife, Phyllis Peterson,
confirmed that Nelson Peterson used corporal punishment as well. They said they knew the story about
what took place at the middle school. And they said that Peterson whipped his children and some of their
friends with a belt or a tree branch to when Adrian showed up, showed out or was being bad.
He got a whooping, Greg Peterson said of his nephew. Larry Peterson said,
Adrian Peterson's parents were told their son needed medication for attention deficit disorder when Adrian was in elementary school.
Nelson Peterson objected, according to Larry Peterson, who said that his brother said, it's not something that a little, a little, it's not something that a little whooping can't take care of.
Yes, it is.
You can whip people's brain chemistry into being different, apparently.
You got to just shake them enough in it.
It's like a cocktail.
I can't.
That's a wild, okay?
Wow. So they said he had boundless energy, and that energy led to a lot of whoopings.
One person who grew up across from the house there said that Adrian spent many weekends there, and they said no one reported the whoppings to authorities after the public incident outside the middle school.
This person said it's normal, as a family member, saying of the disciplinary style.
And he showed a visitor of the two trees in the front yard of his family's home at the top of Robinson Street where he.
He said he and Adrian pick switches after their fathers used to whip them.
Corporal punishment is still used at Palestine High School and many schools across Texas.
It's legal there, yeah.
In 2014?
It's still today.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
And some states that got rid of it, you know, when we started civilizing ourselves a little bit,
have brought it back now because, you know, you've got to be tough on those kids.
Why not revisit?
Yeah, yeah.
We have a weird currency in fucking dumbness now that's very strange.
Hey, what's the stupidest idea?
Let's tout it hard and strong.
Cool.
Let's do it again.
Let's run it back.
It's so stupid.
It just might work.
It's one of those fucking things like in a movie.
So they said, if a kid's chewing gum in class, we don't necessarily give the student swats for that.
Jason Marshall, superintendent of schools in Palestine, said, if a student has several disciplinary situations that just continue to mount, then corporal punishment's an option.
What?
What?
You can hit a child because they're late or absent?
Yeah.
Chewing gum.
You know.
Well, he said chewing gum, we don't.
Well, not the first time, no.
Oh, okay.
If it's part of a larger.
If it's a bitch, well, if it's part of a larger, you know.
What if they got an addiction to juicy fruit?
Yeah.
He chews juicy fruit.
He was a little late and he was kind of a dick to his teacher.
You put that all together, whooping.
Wow.
Yeah, Marshall said he didn't know the specifics of the Adrian Peterson case, but said, myself as a father, and then for our 3,400 students, we certainly would not want any of them under any circumstances to be harmed in any way.
Except for when we hit them.
Except for when we hit them, but then we don't want it to hurt them.
It's just to hit them.
Well, if it's not hard enough to hit them, hurt them, then what exactly are you doing then?
Then it's not really that disciplinary if they don't feel it.
So then why bother is what I'm getting?
So you're either hurting them
or you're doing something that doesn't make any sense
because it has no effect.
One of the two.
It's stupid.
It's illogical.
He said that he and Adrian Peterson,
this is his, I think, brother or cousin or whatever,
got whipped several times by the school football team's
defensive coordinator.
Remember we talked about that?
With a solid oak paddle
that measured 18 inches by six inches
and hung on a nail in the office.
That is so big.
It's a huge paddle.
Foot and a half by six inches?
Go to a pizza place.
That's the thing they put the pizza on when they get it out and spin it.
That's the paddle we're talking about, but thick and oak.
Not, you know, not thin enough to get under a pie.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
A thick one.
So he said, you would bend over and brace yourself and get however many licks had been assigned to you.
Sometimes it would just leave a bruise on the buttocks or a red mark.
It was not a pleasant feeling.
You're not able to sit for a few hours.
Wow. The coach, that coach, who's now retired, said he couldn't remember paddling Adrian Peterson, but it might have happened once or twice. He chuckled and said paddling amounted to tough love. And he thought that that was what motivated Peterson in the incident that led to the indictment. Now, Phyllis Peterson, a former wife of Nelson Peterson, also said Adrian learned had to meet out whippings from his father, who, you know, as we know what happened to him.
Now, Vikings fullback Jerome Felton, who's a good friend of Peterson, grew up in Tennessee and said he also got whipped as a child.
He said, I know there's differences in where you grow up and what type of household you grow up in.
But a lot of people that I know got that type of discipline.
I feel like I'm a better person for it.
I just feel like it gave me a direction of what I can do and can't do.
But some people don't agree with that, and I understand that.
All right, at least it's a reasonable.
That's the only way to discipline a kid.
Like, he's not saying that.
It's fine. That makes sense.
Meanwhile, Larry Peterson lamented how many times he had changed or how times had changed since he and Nelson Peterson and their siblings were growing up.
This is the uncle.
He said, back in that time, the neighborhood disciplined you.
If you got in a fight at a neighbor's house, you got a whooping.
And then we got home, we got another whoopin for having to get a whoop in there.
That's the way they brought kids up then.
You're watching Mad Men right now.
You'll get to an episode in the first season where they have a party.
at the house, a birthday party for one of the kids, and all the adults are there and they're all
drinking. It's, you know, the 1961 or whatever. And one of the kids knocks over a guy's
drink and it breaks the glass and falls on the floor. And the guy grabs the kid who's not his
at all and smacks him in the face. In the face. And the father walks up and he's like,
hey, what happened over here? And he's like, he knocked the thing over. And the father goes,
you want another one? And the guy goes, no, I got him good. I think he's all right. And he goes,
all right, get the hell out of here then.
The father was going to get hit him again.
You want another one?
What another one?
Are you talking to the man who doesn't have a drink at the moment or the child that's been hit?
Exactly.
He doesn't need one, but I'll take another one.
I'll take another one.
It's completely legal in all 50 states to beat your children.
Can you believe that?
That's insane.
Yeah.
Well, because you have to have the leeway of a smack on the ass if it's something extreme.
You have to have that.
Is that corporal punishment?
Like I said, if they're running into traffic, if they're about to do something that will hurt them, they sometimes need the shock of it to stop them from, I've never done that.
But like I said, that I could get.
I get that.
And I've heard that from psychiatrists too and psychologists that have said that's appropriate in a situation where they're going to be hurt worse.
But that's not corporal punishment.
No.
No, that's not you did this.
Now come in here.
sentencing you to that. That's disturbing.
Come to the corporal punishment
room. That's a little
disturbing to me.
I really think they should
discuss this.
Logalities. I agree.
So full statement from
Adrian Peterson here.
They're saying here
that the Minnesota Vikings
are standing behind Adrian Peterson
who rejoin the team.
We're like, we really need a good running back.
So, you know,
Unless he beats any women on camera
Like outside of a bar
We're gonna go ahead and stick with him here
We're gonna hope he learned his lesson
Yeah, but that's the other thing
Imagine, because we've noticed too
In the NFL especially
That what happens really as a sliding scale
Of punishment depending on if it's on film or not
We know that
Yes
Not on film
They'll dismiss it
Ray Rice, you're gone forever
Forever
Because we all saw it
Even though we know what happened
And the other thing
We didn't see it
Whereas imagine this is on film
What are we
Watching
him beat a fucking four-year-old
to the point of bleeding. How would you everybody
feel about that? You can see
the injuries and assume
how it went,
but when you can
visualize a person
making the motions of
doing what they're doing,
you heard Puffy punched a woman.
When you saw him stomp her,
you know he's a piece of shit. Yeah.
You know even worse. Yeah. Because everybody
says, well, you don't know what led up to that. Maybe she
kicked them in the nuts. It doesn't matter.
When you see, but I'm just saying that's what people see.
But when you see the actual situation, and it's not that at all.
And there's no nut kick.
No nut kick.
And it's not some self-defense.
You didn't try to stab him with a samurai sword or anything.
It's just a much larger person in fucking inflicting their physicality on a smaller person.
It's really disturbing to watch.
It just is.
And I like it.
As I don't, I don't know that there's ever been a moment that I don't.
I've seen a woman get punched and thought, fuck yeah.
Never.
No, it's disturbing.
It's so bad.
Whenever I see somebody much bigger, imposing their physicality on somebody smaller, it fucking disturbs me.
It's just disturbing.
I don't like it.
It freaks me out.
It's not cool.
It's the reason why I never walked around looking for fights with people fucking your size.
You know what I mean?
What is that going to accomplish for me?
My fist is the same size as your face.
It's not fair.
I'm sure that there's a moment.
in history,
whether some woman instigating something
has a gun and gets punched in the face
somewhere and it disarms the situation.
I'm sure that's happened.
I'm sure.
Show me that video. I can't wait to see it.
Show me that and I'll go, hit that bitch again.
That's fine. She's about to kill five people.
I can't wait to see that one.
I've never seen. Every one that I've ever seen,
I went, no!
No. Well above and beyond
what needs to be done here.
Even, and I've said it before
and I'll reiterate, I can't
watch UFC girl fights.
Can I don't like it either.
I don't like it either.
I don't like it either.
I don't like watching women get beat up.
I don't know.
We both said this a whole bunch.
I think someone called us misogynist for it actually.
Did we?
Yeah, someone called us a misogynist one time.
We said that.
It was like, because I don't like watching women get punched.
I'm a misogynist.
I don't begrudge their success.
I hope they do great.
I don't want to watch it because it disturbs me.
I'm not participating.
Yeah, I don't mind that it happens.
I get physically ill.
I don't like it.
I get uncomfortable.
Yeah.
I get very uncomfortable with it.
physically ill. I want to throw up.
I don't like it. And I don't even like Ronda Rousey.
And watching her lose that time, I laughed and then I felt like shit.
Yep.
Yeah, wrestling's different because I know that they're planning and they're all in on that.
So that's fine. But when it's someone who's like, I don't want to see a woman get knocked out.
It's just not.
I don't want to see blood coming out of a woman. I don't like it.
Well, yeah. In any aspect.
No, I'm saying from any orifice.
It's just not what we're into.
Yeah, and I realize one of those makes my night a little different.
A little bit different.
Oh, get in there and be a man.
That's my point.
I realize we're taking a shower.
We realize that we're going to put the old blanket down over the sheets tonight first.
That old comforter is getting brought in.
You know, the one we brought camping two years ago.
That's coming out right now.
The one that smells like a campfire?
We're going to throw that out tomorrow.
That's the one.
Smells still has leaves in it that you can't get off of it and like burrs stuck in it and shit.
But that's what's going on the bed.
That's what we got.
Oh, Christ.
So shortly after the team announced its decision, Peterson issued a statement through his agency, CAA, explaining that it's a big agency in California.
If you don't know, explaining that he never intended to hurt his four-year-old son while disciplining him with a tree branch and denied.
that he's a child abuser.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy.
The, they, uh, wow, the, the Vikings said that he deserves to play.
That's what the general manager said.
Yeah.
He deserves it.
Now, this is his, this is Peterson's full statement he released through his agent.
So, yeah, there's, there was some, uh, sweetening and editing, I'm sure, in this bad boy.
He didn't just take it and go, thanks, Adrian, and then handed it to the reporter.
Run it.
I don't think that's what happened.
My attorney has asked...
Take AP statement to the AP.
To the AP. Just take it. I don't even want to read it over. I'll read it in the paper when I see it tomorrow. Don't worry about it.
Let's run it direct.
My attorney has asked me not to discuss the facts of my pending case. I hope you can respect that and that request and help me honor it.
I very much want the public to hear from me, but I understand that it's not appropriate to talk about the facts in detail at the time.
Nevertheless, I want everyone to understand how sorry I feel about the hurt I have brought to my child.
I never wanted to be a distraction to the Vikings organization, the Minnesota community, or my teammates.
I never imagined being in a position where the world is judging my parenting skills or calling me a child abuser because of the discipline I administered to my son.
I voluntarily appeared before the grand jury several weeks ago to answer any and all questions they had.
Before my grand jury appearance, I was interviewed by two different police agencies without an attorney.
In each of those interviews, I have said the same thing, and that is that I said I never in.
intended to harm my son. I will say the same thing once I have my day in court.
when you hit someone with a car, it's still vehicular manslaughter,
even if you didn't aim it at them and go, yeah, motherfucker, as you did it.
You know what I mean?
It doesn't matter.
The result is the problem, not the intent here.
He said, I have to live with the fact that when I disciplined my son, the way I was disciplined
as a child, I caused an injury that I never intended or thought would happen.
I know that many people disagree with the way I disciplined my child.
I also understand that after a meeting with a psychologist, that there are other alternative
alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate. Oh, you just found that out now
in 2014. Wow. Okay. I have learned a lot and have had to reevaluate how I discipline my son going
forward. But deep in my heart, I've always believed that I could have been one of those kids that was
lost in the streets without the discipline instilled in me by my parents and other relatives.
I've always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has had a great deal to do with my
success. I've enjoyed the success I've enjoyed as a man.
I love my son and will continue to be a better parent and learn from any mistakes I ever made.
I'm not a perfect son.
I'm not a perfect husband.
I'm not a perfect parent.
But I am without a doubt, not a child abuser.
I am someone that disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him an injury.
No one can understand the hurt I feel for my son and for the harm I caused him.
My goal is always to teach my son right from wrong and that's what I tried to do that day.
I accept the fact that people feel very strongly about this.
issue and what they think about my conduct, regardless of whatever others think. However, I love my
son very much and will continue to try to become a better father and better person. That's a lot of words.
It's a lot of words. I'm not going to stop. Well, he said I went to a psychologist to learn how to do it
differently. Yeah. He learned different ways, but he also doesn't believe what he did was wrong.
That's the other thing. That's the problem. That's a problem. If he, if that statement, if his whole thing
was, wow, that's the way
I brought up and that I was brought up
and I didn't know any better other way.
I didn't know there was another way.
And now that I've, it's been brought to my
attention.
Yo, I thought all you motherfuckers were doing this.
Yeah.
If he said that, if he was like,
yo, now after that, now I realize
that I can't do that and that you got
to do it a different way and now I have the tools
to do that and going forward.
That could have been, that could have been
huge for a lot of people.
There's people that would have
That would have been a really big example
Eye opening
Eye opening for a lot of people
Oh shit and even
But no he took it the other way
And was like look I know it's not the best thing to do
But that's how I was brought up
And it made me a good man so
That's the part that I do not appreciate
Is the it made me a better person
Really?
That's
What were you going to do without being
Child abused?
If you were abused as a child
then you work a nine to five.
What were you going to do without that?
You were going to be homeless?
That's what it was, yeah.
Is that the other option?
That's it.
You're going to be a crack addicted homeless person.
Millionaire superstar or that.
That's it.
One of the two.
The only thing standing between him and the bread line was a switch.
Dad, a crack money launderer beat me with tree pieces.
Unbelievable.
Jesus.
You'd think you'd go, well, that's what my parents did.
And since my dad was a crack dealer, maybe he didn't have the best decision-making process.
Maybe I should look at all the things he did and re-figure if those are good or not.
My stepfather dropped out of school in seventh grade, had no decision-making or social understandings and beat the living shit out of children.
I knew the second that he began beating me that I would never, ever, ever do this to my children.
No, no.
It's, it's...
I don't give a fuck how I end up.
I know that I'm not treating another person like this.
That's how it would do for me.
No, there's no reason to hit kids, like I said.
It's unbelievable.
Like, I had a daughter first, so you're not going to hit your daughter.
That's insane.
That's a blessing.
You're going to hit a girl first and be like, I have to beat this?
No, I'm not doing that.
So I had a girl first, so it was like, well, I'm definitely not touching her.
So I know how to, you know, how to deal with it other ways.
The time I had a son didn't need to hit him either.
Pretty easy.
Pretty fucking easy.
Yeah.
And he gave you challenges too.
That's what I mean.
He's autistic and hyperactive.
When he was a fucking child, when he was a four-year-old,
believe me.
I can't imagine.
If I was a hitter, I would have been hitting the shit out of that kid.
What kind of person does that?
I'm going to hit this fucking autistic child.
Autistic child who's already having issues communicating with me.
I'm going to make it worse?
Let me make him scared shitless of me also.
I think that'll help.
Maybe when I come in the room, he'll piss him.
on the floor like a Pomeranian.
That'll be great.
Yeah.
If I could get him to that,
if I could get him to that,
like anytime the doorbell rings,
he just pisses on the floor.
That's,
I'm really doing something now.
Fuck, man.
So the,
some people are,
their sponsors that are
pulling away from the Vikings
at this point.
Yeah.
They're supporting him.
The,
the Radisson Hotel chain.
Oh, they're against child abuse.
Good for them.
Good for you, guys.
Too bad your hotels suck.
Daddy's got a sweet at the Radisson.
It's going to say I'm dying.
Too bad I'm not saying there still, even though you're against child abuse.
Sorry.
Drink just came out of Jesus.
I was going to drink water.
That was close.
Sorry about that.
That was awesome.
Also, the Special Olympics, Minnesota, which that seems about right.
You know, that's a fucking excellent point there.
That's a way to stand your ground, too, that.
because if there's anybody
I mean you've dealt with it too
kids with disabilities if you
corporally punish a child with disability
if I ever see that I'll go to jail
for fucking opening you in public
that's fucked up I don't
that I can't even imagine that
you either you're
that's insane your instinct as a parent
is and should be I guess
to extra protective
is how you should be for sure
not fucking you know
oh you little bastard now you're going to deal with
and if you're apparent that
If you're frustrated, think about the level of frustration they've got trying to communicate with you and show you that they understand.
It's crazy, man.
I can't.
I know.
I don't get it.
I am lost.
The Castor motor oil company.
Castor or castor?
Oh, castrol.
I'd say castle.
Yeah, castor.
There's two oils that you were right both ways.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, there's castor oil.
Caster oil is that, yeah, it's a product.
Yeah.
Castrol or is the shastrol.
Astrol motor oil.
Yeah.
And Mylan Inc.
severed ties with Peterson
and Nike stores
in the Twin Cities area
have stopped selling
merchandise with his name on it.
Wow.
They pulled his jerseys,
which are a big seller up there,
I'm sure.
That's a big loss.
Yeah.
So Peterson's All Day Foundation,
which has been devoted
to helping children...
All day.
All day.
Put up and took down
a series of statements
on its website
before shutting it down,
including one that said
it will reengage
after Adrian, his family and the staff have reflected on how the current situation impacts the direction for Adrian's philanthropy.
They crafted a statement, got feedback that they were obviously, they missed the point.
They wrote a new one, pulled that down all day.
They're putting new ones up.
That's what it means now.
That's what it is.
All day, we try to defend this idiot.
Try that one.
Nope, shit.
Take it down.
Take it down.
It's getting bad.
The governor said it's an awful situation.
He was, by the way, spearheading an effort for the $477 million in public funding for the stadium that was being built currently at the time.
Wow.
He said, yes, Mr. Peterson is entitled to due process and should be innocent until proven guilty.
However, he is a public figure, and his actions as described are a public embarrassment to the Vikings organization and the state of Minnesota.
Whooping a child, to the extent of visible wounds, as has been alleged, should not be tolerated in our state.
Therefore, I believe the team should suspend Mr. Peterson until the accusations of child abuse have been resolved by the criminal justice system.
The governor said that?
Governor said that.
Ooh.
The Vikings owner, Mark Wilf, or Ziggy and Mark Wilf, sat Peterson down for the New England loss.
They lost 30 to 7, and then they were like, hmm, shit.
Reconsider, huh?
Why'd you hit that goddamn kid?
They said after reviewing the files and speaking to Peterson and also watching the game film of us not gaining any rushing yards that week.
Watching us get beat like Adrian's child.
Yeah.
They said that they decided to reinstate Peterson.
So, wow.
Yep.
They said Anheiser Bush said it was disappointing and increasingly concerned with the negative attention brought to the league by Ray Rice's assault on his wife and Peterson's treatment of his son.
Nike pulled Peterson's stores jerseys from the street.
stores at the Mall of America in Bloomington and the outlet malls in Egan and Albertville.
Oh my.
You know that Egan one, they sell them all.
Nike still sells the jerseys and features Peterson on its website, though, just not
locally in Minnesota.
The Mylan company said it was no longer working with Peterson to promote its epipen used to
treat allergic reactions.
He's getting his epipen sponsorship pulled.
That's not even, that's not Nike.
That's not a big one.
No.
He just did that shit for free.
Epi pens. They just send him a shitload in the mail
every month. So that he can have some crab
legs every couple of months. Yeah.
I'll go out and have me some crab legs and just
jam a couple of these in my arm when I get
start to blow up a bit.
Wow, the running back had
participated in several promotions to
raise awareness for anaphylaxis.
They said Milan has ended
all activities with Adrian Peterson.
The spokeswoman said, we remain
committed to supporting those managing potentially
life-threatening allergies. We will continue
to continue our educational
efforts to increase anaphylaxis awareness.
There's got to be another athlete who's allergic to something.
Gotta be.
I added that part, but I think that's what they're saying.
He enters in October.
He said he's to enter a not guilty plea.
Wow.
Peterson said, if asked by the judge tomorrow,
Adrian Peterson will enter a plea of not guilty.
That's a spokesperson for him, said that.
He faces up to two years in prison and a $10,000 fine if convicted.
He could be placed on probation as a first-time effect.
He could also be suspended by six games, but from the league as well.
So there we go.
He said, I will have my day in court.
Yeah.
The prosecutor said, we will treat Mr. Peterson as any other defendant, so no plea negotiations would be a standard practice here.
Yeah, they said that the, yeah, that's what's going on.
October 9th, a December trial date is set for him.
And they say that Peterson is,
chomping at the bit to defend himself publicly.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
The trial date may change too.
Montgomery County District Attorney Brett Ligon said that he intends to file a motion to recuse Judge Kelly.
Judge Kelly Case after the judge called each lead attorney in the case, quote, a media whore.
You guys are media whores.
Case apologized, saying his comment was meant as a joke.
A November 4th hearing was scheduled to decide whether to sign a new judge.
But either way, accompanied by his wife and with his mother, Peterson did not speak during the court appearance.
They indicated that Peterson will plead not guilty.
His lawyer also said he just keeps getting hammered without the ability to respond.
This is the place to resolve all these allegations.
So we want to go through court here.
Wow.
There's people outside with free AP signs.
Yeah.
Which I really get really annoyed when they have free whoever who's not in custody.
That annoys the fuck out of me.
I don't know why.
Even if I agree with their cause, I'm like, they're not, it's not correct.
They're not even in anywhere.
I hated those free Karen Reed signs, even if you don't think she had her boyfriend.
She was not in jail.
She was at a goddamn house for fucking two years while this trial was going on.
Both of them.
Free to do whatever the fuck she wants.
Yeah.
She went in jail and her daddy bailed her out and that was life.
the fuck are we talking about here like or whatever bailed her out somebody bailed her out doesn't
matter she wasn't yeah incarcerated so why do we need to free her it doesn't make sense say find her
not guilty great whatever but free her she's not incarcerated what are we talking about so they said
the decision uh is about parenting decisions and whether something unfortunate happened when a parent
decision was made by a man who believes strongly and loves his children very much bullshit basically yeah
Corporal punishment is legal in every state.
The Texas Attorney General noted that the belts and brushes are accepted by many as legitimate disciplinary tools.
But electric or phone cords, boards, yard sticks, ropes, shoes, and wires are likely to be considered instruments of abuse.
Okay, a belt is the same thing.
It's the same as any of those.
Same thing.
A stick is the same of any of those.
A switch does not, it's a little more rigid than a fucking electric.
cable or electric cord. It's not
that, it's not much difference than a
than an extension cord.
Electric cord will cut you hard too.
Yeah, but the, those are bad.
The switch has the same, both.
Little dots. Those little like, where
branches can grow. Where branches come out. Little nubs.
Yeah. And when it, it's a saw. It's a
goddamn saw. But like, if you
take a, like take a, like take a, your lamp
cord. Yeah. Put that in half and
hit someone. Fuck somebody out, man.
It will be a huge. It'll pull skin. It'll
pull skin. It's horrible. Yeah. It's horrifying. So yeah,
that, but a stick is the same thing. It's stupid.
Yeah, that's wild.
And a belt doesn't, yeah, a belt's the same as all of those.
It's, yeah, maybe worse because it's leather.
Maybe.
And it's, I mean, it sounds horrific.
And it's fat.
Yeah, awful.
Fucking awful.
So November 5th, 2014, they reach a plea agreement.
He's not so anxious to get a story out there, apparently, to tell everyone in court about it.
Here we go.
He, it's a, he avoided jail time by reaching a deal to resolve this.
He is sentenced to, you, sir.
He pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of reckless assault for this.
Reckless assault.
Yep.
And he is sentenced to, you, sir, may fuck off probation.
A form of probation is what it is.
A form of.
Yeah, we'll find out more here.
But Peterson said, I stand here and take full responsibility for my actions.
I love my son more than anyone you could even imagine.
And I'm anxious to continue my relationship with my child.
He said, I'm just glad this is over.
I can put this behind me and me and my family can continue to move forward.
He was not allowed to be near his son while the case was pending, but now he can resume having contact with the boy.
Let's hope not physical contact.
Adrian wants to get on with his life and have a relationship with his son and get back to playing football, his attorney said.
Wonder what order those are in.
Yeah.
The NFL spokesman said that the league cannot provide a timetable for when he'll be allowed back.
because they had told him he can't play anymore.
So they said, we'll review the matter, including the court record,
and make a determination on his status.
The Vikings said they're aware of the plea agreement
and don't have a comment on it at this point.
So there's that.
I don't even, this is crazy.
So he could have a lot more, he would have had a lot more,
but this is deferred adjudication, which is a form of probation.
He's fined $4,000 and must complete parenting classes
and perform 80 hours of community service.
Let's make him have 80 hours of parenting classes.
I mean, we don't need the community service.
He said that the no contest plea wasn't an admission of guilt but was treated as such for sentencing.
There's no travel restrictions and if he completes the probation without incident, the misdemeanor charge will be removed from his record.
Yeah.
The district attorney said the probation is all about making him a better parent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, interesting.
So there's that.
The plea deal made moot a pending motion by prosecutors to revoke his $15,000 bond for alleged marijuana use while he was out on bond.
There's that, too.
So anyway, which he shouldn't have been doing at the time, apparently, because he was out on bond as well.
That was illegal anyway.
So they said the decision, this is the prosecutor, was a reflection that this went beyond what was reasonable in regards to being apparent.
and he says, I believe Mr. Peterson is accepting responsibility.
Okay.
His teammates are real happy to have him back.
I bet.
They said, oh, man, we all know the kind of person Adrian is,
and I feel like he's proven that over time.
You know, with all those rushing yards.
Right.
Wow.
He'd been on paid leave making more than $690,000 a week.
Oh, that's real rough.
I wish someone would pay me $690,000 to take a week off.
That'd be amazing.
It was zero opportunity.
to have your knee blown out this week.
Yeah, holy shit.
That's crazy, man.
So that's what's going on.
November 7, 2014,
NFL, now they have to figure out what to do here.
They're like, what do we do?
They said his status on paid leave will not change.
They're going to have a hearing for him to find out
what the hell he's going to do.
November 16th, 2014,
Vikings Peterson skipped the hearing.
Oh?
He was supposed to have a hearing via conference call about possible reinstatement with the Vikings.
The hearing was handled by an arbiter used by the NFL and the NFL Players Association under the collective bargaining agreement.
Through the Players Union, Peterson entered a non-injury grievance regarding when his paid leave on the commissioner's exempt list is supposed to end.
So that just sounds like an important meeting that you should show up for.
Certainly, yeah.
He apparently skipped it here.
he said Peterson and the Players Association also refused to meet at any time in the past week.
The NFL also charged that Peterson would not give the league an alternative date for the disciplinary hearing in connection to his violation of an incident of family violence.
This is a different, more significant hearing than the conference call set for 2 p.m. Monday when Peterson's grievance relating to them remaining on the commissioner's exemplarist will be heard.
The Friday meeting was one that would have been for a disciplinary decision on his past and future.
The meeting initially was scheduled for last Tuesday, but the Players Association told the league Thursday that it was unavailable that day.
So they said, we informed the union that we were unwilling to postpone the hearing beyond this week,
given that the player and union have both expressed a strong desire to resolve this matter as soon as possible.
So we keep giving the appointments and then you can't make it.
They said, we've been given no meaningful reason why Adrian and the union could not appear and participate.
We offered other alternatives for this week, but those were also not acceptable.
We've yet to receive more than cursory materials in response to our requests for information on the case.
Accordingly, we went forward with a review Friday is scheduled.
With or without you.
They said, we hope that Adrian would take advantage of his opportunity to be heard and present whatever information he believes should be considered before a decision on discipline
counseling and services is made because he and the NFLPA decided not to do so, we will have to
address this based on the information currently available to us.
Interesting.
Now, the NFLPA spokesman said that Peterson's attorney provided the NFL with a letter saying
it is against Texas state law to give the NFL the requested documents.
Huh?
What?
Oh, is he calling HIPAA?
kind of like a HIPAA thing, but that's, it's a, it's public, this is a public trial.
Yeah, you got to bring forth all the evidence.
Was part of the plea bargaining agreement that they were bury all the documents?
Like, I don't understand that.
That doesn't make sense.
The NFLPA, that might be true in some weird niche of the law.
I'm not positive, but as much as we've done small town murder and shit, I've never heard of that before.
Well, I'll release everything that's not embarrassing.
How's that?
Yeah, everything that looks good for us.
So the NFLPA also said that Peter.
Peterson's clinician is available to the NFL.
They said the league office seems more focused on creating an arbitrary disciplinary process for Adrian instead of honoring a signed agreement to remove him from the commissioners list.
He said they're simply making stuff up as they go along.
They should commit their efforts to meeting us at the table to collectively bargain a new personal conduct policy.
So yeah, a Montgomery County District Attorney Phil Grant told ESPN that the NFL did ask for Peterson's case file but was turned down.
The judge sealed the entire court's file despite the fact that neither side requested that.
Okay, so it was sealed.
That makes sense.
We have not provided anything to the NFL and don't believe we lawfully can.
Okay.
Peterson denies he refused to attend the hearing somehow, even though he didn't go.
So if he didn't show up, then why didn't you go?
But he said, I didn't deny it.
I didn't fucking say I wasn't going to go.
He claims the NFL's disciplinary process has been unfair.
his potential return to the Vikings is at the heart of a dispute between the NFL and the Players Association.
Jesus, if I'm a player, I'm like, don't put my name on that.
I'm not back in this asshole.
Yeah.
Fuck him.
And I get that's part of the union, but still.
The Union needs to really push to get this done and over with, to get it out of the...
This isn't the Union.
This is the Players Association.
It's different.
Isn't that the Union?
No, it's different.
The PA isn't the Union?
It's a different entity.
Oh.
The Players Association is a different deal, I believe.
I thought the NFLPA was the union.
I thought that was a branch of like their representation.
I thought it was broken down different.
There could be several.
That's what I mean.
I'm not positive about that.
But I thought that that was like a, for some reason, because I know in baseball there's like a union,
but then there's an players association.
They got like an umbrella?
They kind of handle like licensing and that kind of shit for things a lot of the times.
But maybe in the NFL it's different.
It could be just the whole, that's the union.
I'm not positive.
I don't think we know.
he said at this point I've resolved my matters. It is the union. It is okay. Yeah, the NFLPA is the union.
Perfect. At this point, I've resolved my matters to the criminal court. I've done work to make amends for what I've done. I've missed most of the season and I stand ready to be candid and forthcoming with Mr. Goodell about what happened. However, I will not allow the NFL to impose a new process of discipline on me. The process they're pushing is arbitrary, inconsistent, and contrary to what they agreed to do. For those reasons, I never agreed to the hearing.
He said, I didn't even say I would go.
November 18th, 2014, this article says,
visuals sealed Adrian Peterson's fate.
Oh, there's visuals.
There's pictures of the whole thing.
They got leaked, but yeah.
They said, the camera never lies,
and the truth told by the one that captured the damage
inflicted on Adrian's son, demanded the football star,
not step on an NFL field again in 2014.
The photos of the abused four-year-old
were no less shocking than the elevator video
that showed Ray Rice knocking out the woman who was to be his wife.
With the footage making a virtual crime out of the initial two-game ban,
Roger Goodell handed him.
In his letter to Peterson, announcing the running back was suspended from the Vikings
for at least the final six games of the regular season,
the commissioner cited visible swelling marks and cuts on the child's ankles,
limbs, backs, buttocks, and genitals.
So, yeah, I think it might have been a switch got him around the Nutsack there.
God, damn it.
Left by Peterson's weapon of choice, a tree branch,
or a switch for the severity of the penalty.
See, at first they said it was a belt and a switch.
I think he used his both,
but used his switch on this particular incident.
Oh, Jesus.
The visuals are what nailed Peterson,
just like they ultimately nailed Rice
and left the commissioner fighting for the tattered remains of his legacy.
Was Goodell inspired to play the tough guy
after he came off looking so remarkably weak
and out of touch in the Ray Rice case?
No question it goes beyond the necessary modifications
to what had been a toothless domestic violence policy.
But regardless of Gaddle's
motivation, the decision to bench Peterson without pay until at least April was the only one
to make.
Wow.
Goodell knew the public couldn't get past the photos of the angry lacerations on the
boys' legs and the impact of what the commissioner called the emotional and psychological
trauma to a young child who suffers criminal physical abuse at the hands of his father.
Godell also knew the public couldn't get past the police report, quoted by Sports Radio 610
in Houston, that Peterson's son was saying his father,
put leaves in his mouth during the beating.
Right.
He feared his father would punch him in the face and told the cops what happened.
Oh.
He stuff, that's just, I'm going to degrade you.
Yeah, degrading.
Yep.
Inhumane.
That's just terrible.
And I do appreciate the writing of that.
And the wording is appropriate.
However, I will add that the visuals of a child's legs, pictures of injuries do not equate to.
the video. If there was video of that, he would have been
out of the league forever. I guarantee
he's a big stocky, strong motherfucker. If you saw him...
Getting a four-year-old? Beating a miniature person
like that. There's no way that looks good.
No. There's no way that looks like a loving
apparent. You could see a picture. How many pictures have we
seen of domestic violence, abused athletes, girlfriends,
wives, picture at the police station, big black guy at the
hospital, whatever. And we go, Jesus.
That looks terrible.
But people go, well, you don't know.
She could have banged her head and people have excuses.
But then they see Ray Rice and they go, oh, they don't say a fucking word.
That is fucked up.
That is a great.
He just turns on a dime.
All those black eyes look like that.
Right.
And that's every black eye that you see, that video is exactly how they got them.
100% every time.
You show me a video of a grown giant man, professional athlete,
beating the shit of a tiny child.
And people will want us out of.
head on a stick for that shit.
It'll never look good.
It'll never look like...
Stuffing leaves in his mouth?
Yeah, that, right.
Stuffing leaves in...
So what he probably did was...
What he probably did was grab a hold of that stick.
Take the leaves off?
Zipped every leaf off, held that fist,
and mashed it into his mouth.
Probably.
Probably grabbed him by his neck and spun him around.
That's, well, yeah, that's...
I can see it happen and it's so fucked up.
It's...
And then you left out the part where he took his pants down.
down.
Right.
Let's add that to it as well.
Get those pants off.
It's a crazy thing to say to a four-year-old unless they've shit them.
Right.
It's the only time you get those goddamn pants off or it's bath time.
God damn it.
Get them off.
Get them off.
Oh, come on.
Jesus.
You're making it worse.
It's getting worse.
It's on your legs now.
God damn it.
So,
there's just no reality where that video justifies that behavior.
justifies that behavior ever, ever.
Totally. They said that a league source said the injury to the boys' testicles was a specific
factor in separating Peterson's actions from what a civil society would accept as reasonable
corporal punishment. Well, Goodell made a great decision for one.
That's good. Jesus, I got a nut sack. Well done, Rod. They also said that Adrian showed no meaningful
remorse for his conduct, which is almost as troubling as the abuse himself.
He basically said, I won't go that far next time.
time is what he said.
Yeah, that's crazy.
He threw I'm a loving parent into the statement.
That's crazy.
It's fucking crazy, man.
I don't even get it.
Peterson said, I truly regret the incident.
That's what he just keeps saying.
I truly regret the incident.
Not I did the wrong thing.
But he said that I'm sorry for all this,
but I can't excuse the league's refusal to be fair.
That's, that's, wow.
I think your son thinks the same thing.
I can't excuse your inability to be fair.
Yeah, I don't even know what the fuck we're talking about.
Goodell told Peterson in his letter,
while an adult may have a number of options
when confronted with abuse to flee,
fight back, or seek help from law enforcement,
none of those options is realistically available
to a four-year-old child.
100%.
Absolutely.
So he played one game in 2014.
Wow.
That is, we'll find out.
So I think 75.
actually.
Oh.
So, yeah, this is crazy.
So they talk about here, just like the Ray Rice videos in Atlantic City, the pictures of
Peterson's son are worth more than a thousand argumentative words.
They tell the story of a football star who didn't belong on the field until he could prove
to his family and employer that he's a changed man.
As the father of a two-year-old allegedly beaten to death last year by a man the boy's
mother was dating, Peterson spoke last summer of finally finding.
stability and enlightenment and alignment in his life.
He sought spiritual counseling on his promiscuity and got married.
Wow.
So, yeah, it was fucking everybody, but then Jesus told him to keep it in his pants.
Right, while his wife or his ex's boyfriend beat his child.
Did I say drowning earlier?
Yeah, right.
When we were talking about it, I was like, wow, I don't remember that.
It wasn't drowning.
Yeah, I don't know why.
That literally just came out like it was from somewhere else.
Yeah, it was a beating.
We remember that.
What are we talking about?
So, yikes.
Commissioner wrote, the well-being of your children is of paramount concern.
We're unaware of any effort on your part to acknowledge the seriousness of your conduct and your responsibility to demonstrate a genuine commitment to change.
Goodell laid out a program of counseling and therapy for Peterson to follow to earn reinstatement.
And he said, it's all on the running back now.
All on you, homie.
So there's that.
November 19th, 2014, he is absolutely suspended.
It's a public thing.
And, yeah, they said basically get some remorse and check on back with us.
Other than that, they don't give a fuck.
Wow.
I guess his the, who is this, the NFLPA guy that we're talking about now?
Yes, DeMorice Smith, the executive director of the NFLPA,
said that Smith used the league.
arbitrarily accused the league of arbitrarily punishing Peterson beyond the scope of Gaddell's
authority under the modified personal conduct policy. The NFLPA is demanding that a neutral
arbitrator rule on Peterson's appeal. This guy said his whole purpose as a man and as a player is to be
treated fairly. Adrian wants to play. We know his teammates want him to play. The issues at stake
are significant and his rights as a player are paramount. Our job is to do what's best for the player
to protect his rights and try to achieve the best solution for him.
Yeah.
That's a tough gig that they've got.
They really do.
To defend some of the shit they have to defend is tough.
Very tough.
Wow.
They said the time he missed on paid leave was taken into account, blah, blah, blah.
So basically, the new CBA allowed Goodell, the collective bargaining agreement,
allowed Goodell to punish players for off-field conduct.
Players typically have had appeals,
heard by one of Goodell's hand-picked executives,
but the PA argued that the union didn't bargain away Peterson's rights as an NFL player.
He said, you never bargain away industrial due process.
You don't bargain away fairness.
All of those core issues remain.
They pointed out that Cadell's initial suspensions of four New Orleans Saints players
on the bounty scandal were overturned by former commissioner Paul Tagliaboo,
whom the NFL appointed to review appeals.
Well, then you shouldn't complain because it seems like,
that's fair then if they've overturned shit before.
Peterson has become the test case for Goodell's new disciplinary powers
since the owners in August approved a new personal conduct policy
that called for a minimum six-game suspension without pay
for domestic violence and assault cases.
They said, you have a league office, this is the PA guy, said,
you have a league office that in the Rice case has imposed inconsistent punishments,
inconsistent with its own policy,
which they again violated with Adrian Peterson.
It's clear to us that the same league office
cannot be both the entity that imposes discipline
and the office that reviews its discipline.
This isn't a fair thing.
This is a giant corporate fucking global business
where these guys' teams are worth billions of dollars
and they're going to throw anybody under the bus they can
to make their shit not go down one penny.
Period.
So they're acting like this is like some kind of
like a Ford Motor Company thing.
something where they got a union and this is a whole they've given this special exemptions and
everything you know what i mean like sports have congressional exemptions from congress as far as what
they're allowed it's crazy the the back words bending over that we do for sports leagues so that's
just the way it is um they say a league that takes an inconsistent approach to its collective bargaining
agreement is the only fundamental that litigation extends for that so the viking
said they respected the league's decision and weren't going to comment any further.
Really?
That's it.
Goodell identified several aggravating circumstances in the case.
They said first the injury that was inflicted on a child who was only four years old.
That's the first thing.
Kids four.
That's a big deal.
Yeah.
The difference in size and strength between you and the child, this is a letter to Adrian
Peterson, is significant.
Your actions clearly caused physical injury to the child.
While an adult may have a number of options, like we talked about,
the four-year-old doesn't have that.
Further, the injury inflicted on your son includes the emotional and psychological trauma to a young child who suffers criminal abuse at the hands of his father.
The repetitive use of a switch in this instant is functional equivalent of a weapon, particularly in the hands of someone with the strength of an accomplished professional athlete.
Right.
Yeah, this isn't somebody's fucking 85-year-old grandmother from the Ukraine or something taking a swing at him.
I mean, my grandmother used to beat us and we used to laugh at her because she was small and she couldn't, didn't really.
Even with weapons, it hurt, but it wasn't like, you're not going to kill us here.
You know, it was different.
Third, we weren't in terror is what I'm getting at.
The psychological thing of that is the main part of it, you know.
Yeah, the psychological damage that it does to a child and the nerve damage that it does in the reaction to scenarios,
it fucks a child up to where they shake, they piss their pants.
Yeah, it's not good.
There's horrible things that happen because the brain waves get fucking,
just, I don't know, fucking unwired, man.
It's so fucked up.
Yeah, you're scrambling kids' whole fucking motherboard of what goes on in there
and how their CPU fucking sends electrical charges.
It's totally different.
I behave and react in normal situations is fucked up now.
Yeah.
Goodell also said,
you said that you felt very confident with my actions
because I know my intent, quote, unquote.
These comments raise the serious concern that you do not fully appreciate
the seriousness of your conduct, or even worse, that you may feel free to engage in similar conduct
in the future.
In the future, right?
Yeah.
What happens when you put a kid in the hospital, and then the league has to explain why we let you back in?
Right.
Now, Peterson says he's just focusing on his relationship with his son.
Yep, that's right.
He said it had been five months since he spoke to his four-year-old son.
Somewhere deep inside him, Peterson believes he knew what awaited him on the other end of the line,
but he couldn't be sure until he placed that call last week.
This is from the Greenville News, by the way.
Yeah, he certainly won't be, he won't look at that kid and feel contempt towards him ever.
Oh, never, no.
Yeah, never.
He said when Peterson said, when he got on that phone, he said, hey, dad, I was like, hey, buddy, how you doing?
I'm doing okay.
I was like, I love you.
He was like, I love you too, dad.
Can I come over to your house?
Peterson hopes he'll get to see the boy in person in the coming weeks, the end of a tumultuous period in both their lives.
and when Peterson hopes will be a new beginning for him as a parent.
Okay.
So he said he'll be back on the field one day.
He's sure of it.
Even after the NFL suspended the Vikings running back Tuesday for the rest of the season
in light of his no contest plea.
He said he'll still be back, though.
All right.
It doesn't even matter.
He said it's all good.
Wow, this is interesting.
He expressed remorse for injuring his son and maintained.
He was only disciplining him with a son.
switch from a tree the way he'd been disciplined as a child.
He keeps saying, and he said, I won't ever use a switch again.
There, finally.
Thank you.
What will you use, Adrian?
I was going to say, I'm going to use a belt from now on.
Because you're not stopping.
We know that.
He said, there's different situations where a child needs to be disciplined as far as taking
him time out, taking their toys away, making them take a nap.
There's so many different ways to discipline your kids.
Yes, stupid.
Yes.
And in 2014, everyone on fucking earth in the country of the United States of God damn America knew that.
If you ignore it, you choose to ignore it. You know better.
God damn it.
He said in the more than 90-minute phone interview, Peterson's first extensive public remarks since the incident, he spoke with USA Today Sports on a wide variety of topics.
90 minutes.
They got 90 interviews out of him.
Yeah, wow.
That paper, they could run that shit for the next two years.
That's great.
Now, on one of them here, this is what he had to say on the comparison to Ray Rice.
Yeah.
He said, I take full responsibility because I spanked my child.
And no matter what my intentions were, I ended up leaving those marks on his legs.
That's the bottom line.
That's not what I tried to do, but that's what ended up happening.
Don't put me in the same category as Ray Rice.
Yeah, she was much bigger.
Yeah, she had much more of an opportunity to fight back.
She could add a knife in her purse.
No shit.
I completely agree with that.
You know what she could also done?
Not been with Ray Rice.
Not that I'm saying it's her fault for being with her, but this kid has no any opportunity to get away.
His mother said, here, this is your father's house.
The kid has no way to get away.
He has parental rights to spend time with this child.
Like Adele said, there's options open to adults that aren't open to four-year-olds.
That's what we're trying to get across here.
on Minnesota he said I would love to go back and play in Minnesota to get a feel and just see if my family still feels comfortable there.
But if there's word out that, hey, they might release me, then so be it.
I would feel good knowing that I've given everything I had in me.
On Roger Goodell.
He said, I would have to take myself out of position of being the judge and jury, first and foremost,
and have someone who's not biased to the NFL, someone who's independent.
that comes in and makes an assessment of the situation.
But Roger Goodell's, here's the problem.
And I'm not saying this is good or bad.
Roger Goodell's entire job is to protect the owner's money.
That's it.
The owners hire him.
The players don't have a say in it.
The owners hire him.
And his job is to protect their money.
And when he stops protecting their money, when their teams start losing value,
he won't be the commissioner anymore.
And he makes tens of millions of dollars a year.
So he has a lot of motivation to make those.
was fucking 32 guys happy.
Absolutely.
All the time.
So that's the league that you signed up for.
It's not fair, but that's the entity.
And that's find another way to make $11 million a year and knock yourself out.
I don't know.
And there's, you know, unfortunately there, that's what it is.
When you sign up for this gig, you, you don't get to punch out.
There's no, there's no off the clock with this.
Nope.
He said, I think that right there would alleviate a lot when it comes down to someone being able
to sit down here both parties, not be biased toward one or the other, and then make their
recommendation on what they feel based of what they've learned, based on the evidence they've been
presented with, and then be able to come from there. But he said, his main focus is repairing
his relationship with the people around him here. He said, no one knows how I felt when I turned
my child around after spanking him and seeing what I left on his leg. We do, because your text
said pretty much what you felt, which was whooped a little extra mind. You're going to be
I'm mad at me for his leg, but I'm proud of him because he didn't cry.
That's what you said.
That's what you said.
That doesn't sound like remorse.
Nope.
That sounds like you're proud that you raised a good soldier.
Sounds like pride in both you and him.
And his ability to be so abused by now that he takes it that way.
My hard work has turned my child into private gomer pile.
Into a prisoner.
Yeah.
Into Matthew Modeen.
Perfect.
excellent.
Not the guy that sang in a weird voice, more the guy from full metal jackets.
Yeah, not stranger things, Matthew Modin, not Papa.
We're talking pile.
Yeah.
Private pile.
So they said no one knows that dad sat there and apologized to him, hugged him, and told him that I didn't mean to do this to you and how sorry I was.
I love my son.
I love my kids, my family.
Like I said after I took the misdemeanor.
plea. I take full responsibility for my actions. I regret the situation. I love my son more than any one of you could ever even imagine.
I take full responsibility for a misdemeanor when behaving feloniously.
Philoniously. So a source says that he doesn't testify at the hearing. He didn't testify at his appeal hearing according to a person familiar with the case against the NFL. He gave a statement, said the person who spoke to the Associated Press on the
condition of anonymity. Peterson left without comment after spending more than three hours at the
hearing. His attorney said only that the hearing will continue Thursday. He's seeking reinstatement.
I hear they called it the whole thing unprecedented, arbitrary, and unlawful his punishment.
That's what's going on there. December 5th, 2014, Adrian Peterson hearing over after two hours.
So here it is. And, you know, they all want the NFLPA.
just want fairness for Adrian. That's all we want.
December 15th, 2014,
Adrian Peterson, two NFL executives,
quote, how much more you all want?
Not y'all, you all want.
Oh.
Yeah. He said, how much more you all want for me?
You know what I'm saying? That's what he said.
I know what you're asking.
Yeah, he said, how much more do you want?
The transcript of the phone calls, Peterson called Troy Vincent,
the league's executive vice president for football operations,
and also I think former Miami Dolphins wide receiver, if I'm not mistaken,
to get a firm idea of how many games he would be suspended.
While Vincent tried to convince Peterson to meet with Goodell
and other NFL executives to talk about his progress and expectations
to move past the whole thing,
the transcripts of the phone calls used in Peterson's unsuccessful appeal of his suspension
were provided to the AP by a person familiar with the case.
There's a leaker there like crazy.
The person provided the transcripts on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release them.
The conversations, that's not good, took place after Peterson pleaded no contest in Texas here.
Let's see.
So he never thought these were going to be publicly ingested, which is fun.
So Peterson, the NFL Association and the league are at odds over what these conversations meant.
An arbiter, however, sided with Goodell in the NFL last week and saying that Vincent,
didn't promise any specific discipline, and the NFL didn't retaliate against Peterson for not
attending the meeting.
Vincent told Peterson, he took Peterson's suggestion of being suspended in additional two games
to others in the NFL.
He said they responded favorably if Peterson agreed to meet and get things back on track so
everyone could move forward.
Vincent said there's different people, different motives.
We've got you, we've got to get you back on the football field, get your family back together,
restore your life. Once this thing is done, there's no more going back. So Peterson floated two
other ideas in this transcript for discipline. Here's some ideas I think you should discipline me.
Yeah.
Allowing his nine games missed to serve as his suspension while trying any future suspension to
whether he violated his probation or sitting out one more game while being fined his salary for
an additional game.
Vincent testified that he visited Peterson at his home in Texas because he felt the star running back needed some help, according to the arbiter.
The conversations between Vincent and Peterson were informal.
The 2012 MVP at one point hinted he may retire.
Quote, I have so many other options and stuff going through my head too.
I was just thinking about hanging it all up as well.
Vincent responded to him by encouraging him by saying, you got to go to the grave empty.
And God has given you so much talent and he's given you ability.
So.
Yeah, you've still got it on the table.
A third a tank.
Yeah, a third tank.
Yeah, totally.
So the union sues the NFL in mid-December now.
Now it's a full-blown lawsuit.
He pled guilty, took a deal with the NFL, and now he's challenging it?
He didn't really take a deal.
He was handed a suspension.
Yeah, which when you sign up to be a player, part of your contract is if you fuck up.
Yeah.
Goodell's the guy who fucking tells you what you're suspended.
And then if you appeal it, it goes to the people he appointed to do the appeals.
And that's what it is.
The NFL's like its own little country.
It's weird.
Yeah.
It's very weird.
So the petition was held here filed Monday in Minnesota, where the NFLPA has gone to contest labor matters with the league.
Wow.
So that's what's going on.
The union argued that Henderson's decision was biased unfair and contrary to the collective
bargaining agreement. So in 2014, he plays in one game with 75 yards. Wow. Not good. Not good at all.
Zero touchdowns and one child with fucked up legs. So that's his whole season.
So then he, so he went to the court to sue the league essentially, right? Yes. Because he knows he
suspended for the rest of the year, but he's thinking
he would like to call that
even at that point
and be able to come back next year in the
first game, whereas Goodell's saying
you're kind of suspended indefinitely
until you show improvement.
You're suspended
until your behavior changes
and you show us that you've
grown from this. That you've gone
through all this shit and basically that you're not
going to work this, you're not going to do this
again. Right. Is what it is because
they're saying that, you know, you're costing the league money.
by doing this because you're dinging our reputation.
And our two biggest assaulters in the league
play for teams whose color is purple.
And you both beat people purple.
What the fuck?
What the fuck happened there?
So, man, January 15th,
the Viking Spielman says any team would want Peterson.
That's the general manager, Rick Spielman.
Not the old Lions.
Yeah, the old Lions linebacker, Chris Spielman.
He vouched for the suspended running back Wednesday here and said that any NFL would team would want him in the backfield.
Spielman expects him motivated Peterson to move past this scandal that banished him for 15 games.
He said, but was noncommittal about him returning to Minnesota while he sues for reinstatement.
He said, I know Adrian is a good person just being around him.
I know he's done a lot of good in this community.
What he did, he just came out and said he made a mistake.
Not, but barely.
But also that not really.
He did it.
Then he was like, but also, you know.
The mistake he's saying he made is that he used the wrong apparatus that caused too much damage.
Went a little too hard.
It's always saying.
I should have picked a better switch.
That's what he said.
So, yeah.
The Spielman was asked during his postseason media session whether he wanted Peterson back.
And he said, I don't know if there's a team in the NFL that wouldn't want Adrian Peterson on the football team.
I know that he's a pretty good player.
Yeah.
Yeah.
First year coach Mike Zimmerman said after the season, he wanted Peterson back after the Vikings finished seven to nine.
I bet.
He's scheduled to earn 12.75 million in 2015 with a salary cap hit of 15.4 million.
He can't apply for reinstatement until April 15th.
More than a month after free agency starts and teams start shaping their rosters.
So he's saying if Minnesota doesn't want me, I'm kind of, I don't get the initial rush of the free agent market.
So the NFL Players Association sued the league to overturn, obviously.
Spielman, the general manager, said, is there a resolution?
Not right now.
All as I know is where we stand today.
I'm sure it's going to change.
But until those things change, until things get resolved, right now we have Adrian Peterson, who is under contract next year, who's currently suspended by the NFL.
And that's pretty much all I can go into.
Now, in March, he turns 30.
For a running back, that's a big deal.
That's 72.
Yeah.
And that's the way the league looks at them.
Yeah.
Which is wild because there's a lot of guys that were plenty productive after 30,
but they're just looking at the average.
The average running back is breaking down at 30.
But, you know, Walter Payton played until he was 35,
and Peterson played at the average running back.
That's what I'm saying.
He's definitely not the average guy.
And this year off, that's a year off.
That's one less year of wear and tear on the body.
And a year.
He's actually 29 in football terms.
Yeah.
And a year to maybe help recover and regenerate some of the muscle damage that's been done over the last 10.
You just didn't take a beating for the first time since you were eight.
Right.
Who knows what?
You took beatings before that, but they were from your dad, not from.
Yeah, they were with a switch.
From linebackers.
Yeah, who knows what help that's done to his body.
Absolutely.
That's what I'm saying.
So they said that the layoff is intriguing.
Spielman said the only thing I would say about Adrian is Adrian's maybe one of the most unique players I've ever been around.
Yeah.
Which he is.
He's a beast of a fucking running.
He really is.
They said in 2012, he was returning from a complete surgical knee construction and expected to ease back into the competition.
Instead, he set the Vikings.
single-season rushing mark with 2009 yards there.
So, yeah, they said everybody had talked about, well, he's not going to be the same after
the ACL, and that his best year, that was his best year coming back from that.
Knowing Adrian, I know that he's going to want to come back and play.
He's going to play at a very high level when he comes back.
I'm anticipating that.
While the locker room and football operations are united behind Peterson, it remains unclear
how Vikings' ownership and business executives, the sponsors, they mean, would feel
about welcoming back their one-time franchise player.
Spielman said, this is our situation.
There's nothing you can do about it.
I always look at things and say, okay, what's the situation?
And then how do we handle them?
And that's all we can do.
Yeah, you can't change what's happened.
He said a lot of it will depend on Adrian's situation.
But I also know just initially, as I've started putting a little bit of the draft stuff
together, it's also a pretty good running back class this year.
I think it's one of the better running back classes in depth-wise that's come out in a while.
So, hey, we might not even need him.
That's what that is.
So let's end it there.
And then we'll conclude Adrian Peterson next week.
So this was the child abuse rubber match here.
Unbelievable.
What an episode.
It is just all him beating a kid.
It's just him whooping a kid's ass.
Two hours of him.
He beat the shit out of a kid.
He's a scumbag.
Is he getting back in the league or not?
But hopefully you enjoyed that.
I mean, what it happened,
the,
it was all they talked about
for an entire fucking week.
So it makes sense that it would take up two hours
to recap it.
It was two goddamn years of that shit of people.
And I am going to, by the way,
before next week,
next week's show,
I'm going to pull a bunch of quotes
from people about this,
people's opinions about this
that were on television.
Like you said Charles Barkley.
Charles Barkley, Chris Carter.
that way we don't.
We don't, yeah, because I remember Michael Irvin talking about specifically,
but I don't remember if it was Shannon Sharp,
and I don't want to cast aspersions on people who are,
they have been anti-child abuse and say they love beat kids.
That's not cool.
We don't need to say Shannon Sharpen is a champion for child abuse.
Yeah, we never want to fuck up like that.
Like, if someone deserves it, we will fucking ding them hard
and make fun of them for two hours about it.
But if they don't deserve it, we don't want to be the assholes leveling some.
I do know Charles Barkley said,
This is what you do in the South.
And he clarified,
whoopens are what made me who I am.
And that is, I don't know that, I didn't,
I'm not quoting that.
I'm saying that he said whoopens are what I got,
and that's why I'm successful.
Something to that.
Adrian Peterson literally said that's what made me the man I am today.
No, it's not.
It's really not.
It's just not, I promise.
There's other ways.
So anyway, there you go, everybody.
Part three, we will wrap up Adrian next week.
And he's not done being arrested yet.
Don't worry about that.
Don't you even worry about that.
He's got a lot more to do.
I will tell you, James,
Wuppens are why I shake when there's confrontation.
So if you ever see me fucking shit,
it's because I'm raging and I can't wait to lash out.
And that's because I would get beaten and I had no chance to lash out.
That makes a lot of sense.
It's a crazy reaction that I have, and I hate that I have it because it's a super tell when somebody's fucking with me or when I feel threatened, when I am seen shaking.
That's a, that's a tea kettle about to pop.
See, I've gotten physically aggressive real quick in the past because that's what it was kind of, you know.
I mean, my grandmother pulled a knife on a guy.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's how I was raised.
Like it's a different type of thing.
But as I've grown up, though, I've realized that maybe take a step back for a moment.
You know, like over the last 20 years or so, I've said, wow, that's, that's really crazy.
You shouldn't be doing that.
Take a step back.
Just calms out.
Maybe there's a calm way to handle this.
Maybe you can just laugh at it because that's what I'll do now with, I'm just, I just laugh at shit.
Like, get the fuck away here.
I don't even care anymore.
Like, just I don't care anymore.
That's the way it is with that shit.
I'm too fucking, you know, too far beyond it.
Two in my 40s to give a shit about it.
Yeah. Don't care.
Fuck off.
Isn't that nice?
It's great.
I'm too buried in these 40s to give a shit.
You burn out.
Yeah.
There's a lot of that energy just burn.
We talked on Small Town Murder a lot about how jealousy burns off as you know.
Yeah.
Thank God.
It's jealousy rage for most people, normal people.
That shit burns off like the, like the San Francisco Bay Fog does by noon.
You know what I mean?
say it burns off.
California fucking Marine layer.
It's totally like that.
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