Crime in Sports - The Open Marriage Murder Dan The Wolf Serafini

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

This week, a major league baseball pitcher, who had a hard time staying on one team, or even in one league. His journeyman career took him all over the world, but his troubles started at home. He trad...ed in one wife, for a new wife, costing himself millions of dollars. Opened a failed bar, that the "Bar Rescue" tv show couldn't save. But his real trouble started when he decided to shoot his in laws. A murder trial reveals an open marriage, an unlikely accomplice, and all kinds of crazy stuff!!   Try to embrace your Italian heritage, travel the world, being cut from different baseball teams, and murder your in laws, with the help of your wife's friend, who also happens to be your girlfriend with Dan "The Wolf" Serafini!!   Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!   Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman   Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com   Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!!   Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:03:01 You've probably read a lot about him lately because especially our people posting about it all the time. Anytime there's an athlete who gets in trouble, our people are on it. I missed it, I think. Dan Serafini, who's a major league pitcher. which is great because baseball players, out of the major sports, they're really the... They just don't get in that much trouble anymore. They just don't. They make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:03:24 The game's pretty calm. They're not aggressive by nature when it comes to... You know what I mean? They're not like football players where they're, you know, go kill that guy, then calm down. You know, they tell baseball players, keep calm, even keel. Don't be an angry hitter. Like, you're supposed to keep cool. So, you know, we don't get a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Hockey players actually don't do a lot. lot either. But that's mainly because they're Canadian. More kind. They're either Canadian or like Eastern European and trying to keep their visa in check. You know what I mean? Either one. Belly full of gravy fries will calm you right the fuck. That calms you down, man. So yeah, that putine will get you. So let's talk about it. Daniel Joseph Serafini, S-E-R-A-F-I-N-I, nickname the Wolf.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah. There you go. Born January 25th, 1974 in San Francisco. go here. He's a left-handed pitcher, and I'll talk a little bit about him. Not a huge guy, I don't think, either, as we'll get into here. His parents are Italian. That's why we get the Seraphini over here. Sounds like a dish with seafood in it. You're definitely, for sure. There's definitely legs in there, as my ex-wife would say. My ex-wife, a little quick story, First time I took her, you know, this was years and years ago before we were married and any of that stuff. We, I took her to the first Christmas Eve that she'd been to at my grandmother's house when my grandmother moved to Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah. And so, you know, big Italian Christmas Eve, all the traditional shit. She makes a pasta with, you know, like a, like a, like, not a Zupa, Depeche, but, you know, it's got clans. Yeah. It's got shrimp. It's got like, you know, calomari and squid and stuff. So there's legs sticking out. Calamari, the little legs coming out.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And my ex-wife looked at it and then looked at me and she goes, there's legs in this. I'll never forget it. There's legs. I could, yeah, just eat it. It's good. And she was like, I don't know. She had never seen it before. And it really freaked her out.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So there's legs. There's legs in this. And I was like, ah. That's very funny. It was very funny at the time. But yeah, so then I, of course, embarrassed her and was like, there's legs in it. She doesn't want to eat. She doesn't like legs.
Starting point is 00:05:36 My grandmother, like, how do you eat me? Is there like a boneless, skinless chicken breast in there somewhere? She can throw on top of this. So he says it like this, Dan does. I have always had a strong Italian family growing up, but Italian heritage or history was never really taught. I never learned Italian, even though my father speaks Italian and both of my grandparents only spoke Italian.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I just wasn't brought up that way. And this is a, this is the, there's a difference in Italians. And I don't know if people, if you're not from the Northeast, you wouldn't know this because you've probably met two Italian people in your life. But there's a big difference in the, I'll go to Tony Soprano. Yeah. There's the Wonderbred Watt. Sure. Which is kind of the, you don't know anything about your heritage.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Most of those people, though, never met an immigrant. They're like great-grandparents came or great-great-grandparents came. And they grew up trying to, they might have an anglicized last name. They grew up trying to be, you're American. God damn it. You're American or you're American and you're not, you know, all that stuff. That's one genre of the Italians. And then there is kind of the other genre. There's basically, did you grow up with immigrants or not? That's what it is. If you didn't grow up with immigrants, it's a different situation. If you grew up around immigrants all the time, like if he, his grandparents
Starting point is 00:06:54 are from Italy and he had to spend all his time at his house at their house like I did, you know, you'd have a different, I think, you know, look at it and a different aspect on the whole thing. My high school girlfriend's last name was Panzer. from the boat, but they shortened it to Pansa. And they, you wouldn't know for fucking anything that they were Italians. Exactly. That's, that's a thing. They really do.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Italians are the most self-loathing of all the ethnicities. They really are. Because at home, they'll know they're Italian and stuff. But outside, they're like, hey, look at me. I'm John Green. That's me. Yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah, no, I'm just like you.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It's just weird. I never got that. And I came from the side that was like, my fuck those people my what are you got those shit yeah you know you'd be proud of who you are my head from Nazis to get you here people have problem you know that kind of shit so a little different um so that's kind of where he so he seems like he's more of the wonderbread variety of yeah of Italian I don't know uh I don't know if his mom was making sauce on Sunday or not here so it doesn't seem like it so he went to junipero Sarah high school
Starting point is 00:08:05 in San Mateo, California. Oh, yeah. Yeah, not bad. Same school as Barry Bonds, by the way. Wow. Not bad. In 1991, in a 7-to-N-0 win over Salinas High School, he pitched a playoff no-hitter.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And it's still, to this day, the only play-off, no-hitter in school history. Really? So, yeah, I mean, he ends up getting some attention here. California's got a lot of ballplayers, and that's a pretty impressive record to still stand. The ballplayers, from California and Florida where he can play all year round. Makes sense. I mean, May 19th,
Starting point is 00:08:41 1991 here. That's, he had, I guess, almost had, that's when this all happened, but he had almost had four hitters or four no hitters that season that got him broken up late in the game. All four of them. All four of them. He twice lost no hitters in the seventh inning, which is pretty good. That's not bad at all here. So, I believe it's the same one. It has to be. Jason Kidd, it walked in the fourth and scored the only run in the win over in another win.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So Jason Kidd was, it has to be because I know he's from that area and he went to Berkeley. He went to UC Berkeley. So he's, that makes perfect sense that he would be there. And he's a good athlete, I'm sure. Probably a multi-sport athlete, probably. Yeah, all those guys are. He was, Dan, not Jason Kidd, got basically all.
Starting point is 00:09:35 the MLB scouts were looking for him after this because he had he was 11 and one that year and set a single season school record of 149 strikeouts as well um he went 20 and two with his two seasons in varsity here with a 1.70 era so he's he's dead if you don't know anything about baseball he's fucking doing he's really fucking good he's really good and he's left-handed so yeah he could be a little less good and they'd still be looking at him that's a high school stud is what that is Absolutely. So it's interesting here. He was named to every All-Star team, all of all county, all Peninsula, all Northern California, you name it. He was the 1992 W-C-A-L-W-Cal, country and or county and peninsula co-player of the year. In addition to, I'm not sure, in addition to being named
Starting point is 00:10:28 somebody who's probably not played sports ever. That's what they don't say. And so they don't say. And being named the San Mateo Times County Athlete of the Year. There he is. Yeah, high school athletes fade out. You don't see them very much. So I remember Al Bundy's out there. Oh, tons.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I remember seeing Rod Beck, my friend there in his house, he had a bat up and a plaque in the wall. It was up high and I was like, what the fuck is that? And I got a steps when I looked at it. I was like, holy shit. It was the co. like best hitter in L.A. award. Yeah. Rod, the relief pitcher in high school. He was the co-best hitter in like L.A. County with Todd Zeal.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Wow. I was like, holy shit. That's incredible. Fucking Todd Zeal. He actually hit in the majors for a long goddamn time. So I thought that was really funny. I was like, wow, that guy, what happened? Whatever happened to that one. Yeah. He probably feels bad that in high school, this is co-best hit. or is the relief.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's the relief pitcher. It's true, though. Who happens to be a goddamn tank? Do shit, built like a tank. A lot of those guys' pitchers weren't pitchers at first, though. Trevor Hoffman wasn't a pitcher until he was, you know, until he was drafted after the pirates. In the minors, they made him a pitcher. He was a shortstop.
Starting point is 00:11:52 These guys with good arms are shortstop, center fielers, right fielers, shit like that. So they're talking about him being a top prospect. Dan just says I'm not I'm trying not to pay attention to it I'm trying to concentrate on high school right now high school comes first yeah right I have biology class hold on never mind my career and everything and being a famous ball player oh absolutely they gave him the Bull Durham speech that Cosner gave Tim Robbins where he's like just going to go out and play it one day at a time and God willing we'll come out on top Make sure you remind them that student comes first in student athletes. Say that. Oh, man. That just means he probably has an agent already that's telling him exactly what to say. That is pretty fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:12:42 High school comes first. Comes first. Serafini's ranked third in the nation among draft desirable pitchers. So on all the scouting sheets, he's the third pitcher in the nation here. He opened the season with 6 and 0 with 93 strikeouts and 49 innings. his fastball is only in the mid-80s, which isn't really that spectacular. That's not great, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 But for a lefty, though, if it moves, that's the thing. If you're a lefty and your pitch has a little bit of weird movement on it, 87's fine. So, yeah, they said that they like it. He throws a curve, a slider, and a change-up. Oh, he's got three pitches. Yeah, and a fastball. So he's got four pitches, and he's a lefty that throws four, you know, off-speed pitches, which are three off-speed pitches, which is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:13:27 he said I still have a problem walking men but I get it in there sometimes that's what he said as a joke yeah he has some walk but I mean control issues are what you expect from a high school pitcher yeah yeah sentence just sounds filthy it really does it really fucking does I still have a problem
Starting point is 00:13:47 walking men it's the men part hitters would have been fine I get it in sometimes I get it in sometimes though when they're on their way to first base I gotta wrestle them to the ground it's not easy I get it in. Plus, you got to move that jockstrap thing aside out of their ass. That's tough, too. But I get it in there.
Starting point is 00:14:04 He said, he signed a letter of intent with the University of Miami, but he said he would consider a pro offer if drafted well enough. This is what guys do to get leverage. You sign a letter of intent with a college. That way, if a team drafts you, they know you have choices and they can't lowball you. They have to give you a decent offer. You say, I have somewhere else to go. I'll go to college.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'll go to college. I'll play there for a year. Get drafted again next year. See how you. that goes because guys do that all the time that's very common he said it's an open decision right now if i get an offer i can live with i'll take it it's a hard decision for an 18 year old to make if i make the wrong decision i have to live with it right i mean it's just true about every that's everything what yeah i guess it's when you're 18 it's a lot to choose your whole path of your life here
Starting point is 00:14:49 um but yeah um i guess they're saying that you know he's gonna you know he could be basically he could get hundreds of thousands of dollars. Who knows? He could get a good amount of money here. So June 1st, 1992 is the MLB draft here. And he is picked in the first round of the MLB draft, which is a big deal. He's picked 26th overall by the Minnesota Twins in the first round. And baseball, by the way, draft where your draft, it really doesn't matter because it's whether they can sign you or not.
Starting point is 00:15:25 So the obvious number. one guy might not get drafted until like ninth because they know that he's not going to sign with them so they don't draft them. So that's how that goes. And the baseball, they play that game more than any other sport too. There's so many games. Yeah. Yeah. No. No, no. The draft is so different. You can just, if you get drafted, you don't like the offer. That team only holds your rights for a year until the next draft. Yeah. So if you re-enter the draft, then you can get drafted by somebody totally different. It's like a redo every year. So you can play college. While you're in college, you can get drafted.
Starting point is 00:15:57 it every year and see where you want to go. Does it cost any money to declare for the draft? No. We should do it every year. Maybe like a $75 fee or something. Yeah, we should declare for it every single year. I think back in the day a few years ago on this show, I think we both declared for the NBA draft, I believe, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:16:16 I'm still waiting for a phone call. So, you know, guys, we're available is what I'm saying. It would be very funny if a team didn't give a shit about anybody else in the draft. We're just like, we're taking two in this pick. These two idiots. Neither of them are any good. They both together equal a quarter of an athlete. There they are.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Hey, one's tall. And one of them's got a big mouth. One of them's got a big mouth. Which one? You guys just wait and see, sports writers. That's hilarious. Opening day, you'll find out. They're both mouthy.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So they can only play one at a time. That's how it. It's too much otherwise. Oh, that's hilarious. So he agrees to a deal on the 4th of July. Yeah. Freedom of a deal right there. Let it ring.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Let it ring. November 18, 1994. There's an article here in the Star Tribune says the Twins Young Gun. Serafini packs confidence fastball while shooting for major leagues. Man, they're saying he has the look of a winner. That's what this article stands out. Sure. Starts out by so like that matters at all.
Starting point is 00:17:35 The look. I like a guy that doesn't look like a winner. No. Well, that's the money ball shit where the guy's like, he's got a good face. And he's like, what does that mean? What is that? How does that translate into baseball? Because Billy Bean was like, I had a good face and I sucked.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So what are we talking about here? You know what I mean? That's such a good face. Brad Pitt's playing me. Yeah, that's my face. You know, my career average? is about 210. That's the problem. Otis Nixon
Starting point is 00:18:02 looked like a goblin, but the guy can hit 300. You know what I mean? No one ever said he's got a good face, but he played in the league for a long fucking time. My favorite line from, not a lot of sentences start with my favorite line from from, God damn it, Space Jam. Space Jam, there we go. Not a lot of people start sentences with my favorite line from Space Jam.
Starting point is 00:18:24 But when when that dorky guy from Seinfeld, The little fat guy with the jufro, what's his name? Jason Alexander? No, the other one. Oh, Wayne Knight. What is it? Wayne Knight. Newman.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I think that's his name. Yeah. What was his name in the show? Newman. Newman. Yes, that's him. Yes. Fucking Newman.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Hello, Newman. But he was trying to get on the team too. He goes, you don't understand. I'm short and I'm fat, but I'm slow. You're not selling it. And I can't jump also. Yeah. Those are all me.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Those are my favorite. But I also have a knee injury. He has the look of a winner, whether he's standing on the mound wearing moosed hair and black high tops, easing through the fluid pitching motion and unleashing a 90-plus mile an hour fastball or detailing his dreams. Yeah. Oh, man. He's one of the youngest players in the Arizona Fall League. And according to scouts, one of the most promising.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I guess he had pitched in Class A, Fort Myers for his first season. We went nine and nine with a 461 ERA, which is impressive in single A. Oh, okay, got a single A down in Fort Myers. Yeah, single A is tough because we go to the Renegades games and it's the... They're good players in that fucking league. There's a lot of good players. It's just the pitchers don't have a lot of breaking shit yet.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah, that's the issue. So guys are looking for fastballs and they're looking and they're sitting on them. I'm looking to send them out. They're looking to get some attention. Absolutely. So he had 130 strikeouts. He did out with only 57 walks, which is incredible for a young pitcher, and he's a left-hander. So they're like, how long will it take your mind and body to catch up to your left arm?
Starting point is 00:20:12 That's what they're wondering. And the Gus Ganderellis, a twins pitching prospect, said, he's good now. He starts early. He starts out real early. He hasn't even fucked up yet, but he's good now. With time and a little more maturity, he's going to be real. good. When he's right, he's tough. So
Starting point is 00:20:32 they said, do you expect to make it to the majors in the next two years? And he said, I should be there sooner than that, Serafini says. Look at you. I have a tired arm right now, but I think I should be there by the end of next year if I stay consistent. I was leading this league in ERA for a while,
Starting point is 00:20:49 then had a bad game and haven't been able to pitch enough innings to get it back down. Okay. So, yeah, he's doing fine, but He wants to go to AAA next year, he's saying. That would be great. That way the twins could really see him.
Starting point is 00:21:03 He said, I hope not to start in AA. I don't like the Eastern League. I don't like the weather. You can't say that when you're a prospect. I don't like the weather over there. Well, okay. Doesn't matter. Don't send me to Cleveland, please.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah. They like to send players to AA because that's where the talent is. Yeah, that's where you get better. The most, yeah, the most talent is concentrated in AA. and that's why they want to send pitchers there because they're going up against badass hitters and see if you're ready basically. He said, you know, they said
Starting point is 00:21:35 would he rather start in the PCL where a combination of high altitude, small ballparks, and bad pitching enables teams to hit 300? He said, it's a hitter's league, but I think I can keep the ball down enough to get ground balls. We don't have any left-handed starters
Starting point is 00:21:50 other than Eddie Guardado. Remember him? He was a closer for twins for a long time. A few years anyway. Eddie Gordado. Yeah, was he part of that fucking, no, never mind. Early 2000s twins, kind of of. It might be them.
Starting point is 00:22:02 They have a nickname, some of the guys from the twins. I think he might be one of them. I'm not sure. I think I have a good chance. I didn't think I should have been an A ball last year, but I didn't pitch all that well, so I guess it worked out. You're cocky little ass all, isn't he? No shit.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I'm 18, but I don't think I should have been an A ball with the rookies. You're a rookie. What are you talking about? So that's weird. the manager of Chandler of the Arizona Fall League said he's a good young arm and he's a good kid. He's one of the top prospects in the league. He doesn't pitch like he's 19 or 20. He's a lot more mature.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He's competed real well and he's got a heck of a future. And then the Twins General Manager said, this is great. What do you think he's going to say in his first sentence? I don't like his fucking attitude. No, he's going to say the same thing that they all say. quote, he's a good kid and we think he's got a chance The same exact thing the other guy said
Starting point is 00:22:59 We think he's got a chance to be a very good pitcher The other guy said he's a good pitcher And he's a good kid and he's a good kid And he just reversed it Run it back reverse it He said he's got a good frame And he's starting to add some quality weight As he matures
Starting point is 00:23:12 God I hate when they talk about these guys Like they're like animals that do farm work Or some shit Like an oxen that you bought Blue Ribbon pig Yeah it's real weird And he's got a live arm He's a big part of our future.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Serafini says, I don't think I have anything to really work on. I just have to throw strikes. I don't think I have anything to work on. I'm 20 in the minor league. All good here. By the way, the same high school that he went to not only had Barry Bonds, but also Greg Jeffries. Greg Jeffries. I don't know that name.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Played in the league for 15. Everybody. He played for, I want to say like 14 teams. The Brewers, one of them? Yes, I'm pretty sure he was. And he also played a shitload of positions, too. Oh, all right. He played.
Starting point is 00:24:00 That felt like you were just humoring me. No, no, no, no. No, I think he might have, actually. He played for like 14 teams. Like he played for a lot, over 10 teams I know he played for. Wow. A lot. I just remember when I was a kid in 1988, his rookie card was like hot shit.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Greg Jeffrey's rookie card's going to be a big deal. And then obviously it's not. So he was a catcher, a first baseman, a second, that fucking third baseman. He played everywhere. Matt. Yeah, Mets, Cardinals. Shit, everybody. Like I said, no shit.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Do you play for the Brewers? It does not look like it. Every other team but the Brewers. Mets, Royals, Cardinals, Phillies, Angels, tigers, yeah, no. Everybody else, though. Yeah. So, Serafini says, I know Bonds and I'm good friends with Jeffries. See, nobody is good friends with Bonds because nobody likes him.
Starting point is 00:24:49 No. He's never been likable. And Bonds doesn't like anybody but Bonds. No, he doesn't like him. He was on the same team with Rod, and I asked Rod about him. And if Rod doesn't say you're okay, you're probably a dick. It's because he likes everybody. So if you're a dick, you're a dick.
Starting point is 00:25:06 He said, hey, he's fine. He's fine. They got an argument once because Barry Bonds told Rod his locker was dirty. So the fuck what? And Rod said, fuck you look into my locker for it, cunt face. And he said, well, you should clean your locker. It's like you should go fuck your mother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So that was that thing. It's trouble like more ass shit in the two. You want to fucking organize it for me? Then shut your fucking mouth. So in 1996, Serafini was rated by baseball America as the 76th ranked prospect in the minor leagues. Which doesn't sound great,
Starting point is 00:25:37 but that's actually pretty good. It's not bad. Yeah, there's a fuckload of minor leagues players. There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. So the 1996 Minnesota twins, because I think they're going to bring them up for a September call up here, there were 78 and 84, fourth in the AL Central. so might as well bring some guys up and see what you got what's the difference at this point
Starting point is 00:25:57 this is the oh yeah a little rick aguilera let'sroy hawkins edie gordado twins here chuck knoblock right before he went to the yankees and had all of his issues he was so good back back then fuck that's he was an all-star that year pat mahomes there you go there he is senior he's on that yep seniors on that team brad radkey okay a lot of those guys uh june 24th nineteen ninety six called up, they're saying, from AAA Salt Lake. Yeah. They planned him to start him during a double header. The moves only being made for Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:26:32 meaning that he, for that day, meaning that he might get sent back in two days at. They only brought him up because they need a double header starter, basically. Yeah, they said that he was on the Salt Lake City buzz, which if you saw Major League 3 back to the minors, that's the team that they were dealing with. By the way, that's Walton Goggins playing the young guy. Yeah, playing what's his name, whatever Anderson or some shit.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It's got to be his first movie, right? At least close to. It seems like that guy has been in. He has the same hairline, though, that he does. He was like 23 and he had a hairline of a fucking 48-year-old man that was going on. When he was in Django, he just looked like he was a struggling actor. Now in the, now in righteous gemstones and the vice president, looks like he's doing really well. He's doing great for himself.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. He looks very helpful. healthy and happy. So he starts on June 25th against the New York Yankees in 96, too, which is their first World Series victory of that whole little run there. He pitched 4.1 innings, allowed five runs and took the loss. It's his only Major League appearance of the year, and he went back down to the minors there. So that year he finishes 0-1 with a 1038 ERA in the majors, which that's a one-outing.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, what are you going to do? Yeah, and that was a good lineup, too, that year. Yankee lineup. So 1997, Minnesota, they're 68 and 94. Not good. No. That is bad, bad, bad, bad. Yeah, that's real bad here. Not good at all. David Ortiz on this team, by the way, before he went to the Red Sox here. This year, he's two and one. He pitches in six games. He's two and one with a 3.42 ERA. So I'm going to say he's got to be feeling good about himself. He's a rookie with an ERA under three and a half. Yeah. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And brought it down from 10. I'm going to say, that's grace right there, let's say. Let's call that grace. That's improvement. Wow. 98 twins, 70 and 92. They really weren't getting much better over the time. And dead last in attendance in the American League as well. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I remember. Dead last. And this is the playing indoors place? Yeah, this is the Metro dome where they wanted a new stadium. so they were trying to show how terrible the stadium is. Oh, it's so bad. Yeah, having a terrible attendance isn't a way to get a city to buy you a new stadium. Hey, look, no one wants to come to the game, so you should buy us a new stadium.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Because our stadium sucks. Our stadium blows. So this year, he only pitches, he pitches in 28 games this year. He's 7 and 4 with a 6.48 ERA. That is not great. He starts nine games. and so a lot of relief time. And this is a rookie.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Sometimes he's a middle relief. Sometimes he's starting. Yeah, yeah. That's a really tough thing for a guy to do. It's difficult. Yeah, it's hard to prove yourself. Prove your worth. He made $170,000 that year.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Wow. So, I mean, that's better than nothing here. March 31st, 1999. So the end of spring training right before the season starts. He's purchased by the Chicago Cubs. Oh. They bought him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:49 like, fucking, like lawn equipment. They just bought them like a mower. So the 1999 Cubs, by the way, coming off that hot wild card in 98, when they had their kind of magical season there in 98 and shit, fucking Rod had 51 saves that year. That was a good year for everybody. That was the Kerry Wood striking out 20 and all that kind of shit. 1999, there's 67 and 95. It all fell apart there.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Not terrific. Now, this year, this Rod's. on the team for the first half and then he got traded to the Red Sox at the All-Star break after Dusty Baker had completely destroyed his arm in San Francisco. No, in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Oh, got it. Yeah. Rod had the record for most consecutive days pitching. God, Jesus. And at the time, there's a game on YouTube where he is coming in in the ninth to pitch against Atlanta. And it's from 94 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And they're talking about how they call him from the dugout from the bullpen and the announcers literally go, I can't believe they're bringing him back in again. This is great. The guy said, this is crazy. He goes, his arm has got to be rubber right now. This is his 11th straight appearance. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:31:00 They're like, I don't understand why they're doing this to this guy. Like, the whole time they're doing it, they're just like, I don't know how he has anything left. He's pitching every single day. This is ridiculous. Dusty was trying to see if he could do it. And he did it. Well, Dusty would ask the guys,
Starting point is 00:31:13 if I need you, can you go today? Yeah. What are you supposed to say? That's what I said. He goes, half the time my arm was so fucking sore, but what am I going to say no? He can't say no, especially Dusty Baker. He's this giant guy and he's like a father figure and he's going, you can be ready today? And you go, everybody trusts.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah. Yeah. And that was then and also Roger Craig was before that as a manager. But anyway, this year, the Cubs obviously don't have the best season like we said. Sammy Sosa, again, also hitting all the home runs out here again in 99. For Serafini, though, he goes three in three. in 42 games. He only started four, so he came out of the bullpen most of the time.
Starting point is 00:31:51 62 innings, 6.93 ERA. Yeah. That's not good. No. He also, that's going, that's bad. Yeah, you can't have an ERA almost seven and expect to stick around. Right. That year, he also made two starts for the Iowa Cubs.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So he did that, which is nice. Not the Chicago ones. Not the Chicago ones. The Iowa Cubs were. Again, Rod played in 2003 and lived in the RV out in center field there when he was trying to come back. The Cubs were nice enough to make a deal with them where you can come play in our minor league system. And if anybody signs you, we'll let you go. And if anybody else wants you, they can have you basically.
Starting point is 00:32:34 They just gave them a platform to perform on, which I thought was really nice of them. That's a nice team. So this year, he makes $200,000, Serafini. December 22nd, 1999, he's trained. rated by the Cubs to the San Diego Padres for a minor leaguer named Brandon Pernell. Oh. Oh, no. So now he's going to the Padres.
Starting point is 00:32:56 The 2000 Padres, 76 and 86. Man, he is like Mr. Mediocre baseball team. They love to put him on the worst team. You just go to this team and fucking die in anonymity. Yeah. Who cares? There's, like I said, 76 and 86. This is the
Starting point is 00:33:15 Trying to think of who's really big on this team That doesn't matter Ryan Clesco Guys like that was McGriff there yet Let me look here No if he was there yet McGriff No he wasn't there
Starting point is 00:33:26 No he says 97 Jesus a 37 year old Dave Magan No this is 2000 I think Oh 2000 It's long gone by them Long gone yeah this is Trying to think yeah Who the fuck else
Starting point is 00:33:39 Ryan Clesco from the Braves From fucking 92 Yeah Trevor Hawley Hoffman, John Maybrey. Good God. I mean, all the Caminities and those guys are gone. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:50 From that run they made in the late 90s, they made it to the World Series in 98. They kind of suck. Yeah, they kind of suck. Yeah, they've lost their guys. Kevin Brown already left and all that shit. So this year, he goes zero and zero. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:05 He only, he's only in three games. And he has an ERA of 18. Oh, my God. That's not good. That's for the Padres. So the Padres trade him in June when his ERA is 18. They trade him to the Pirates for a player to be named later. Now he's not even getting...
Starting point is 00:34:25 Who cares? Give us someone later. We just want rid of this guy. We'll call it later. What do you say? Jesus Christ. They ended up sending Andy Boucher to the Padres to complete the trade. So the 2000 pirates again, or two thousand...
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah, this is because he spends the rest of two... thousand on this team 69 and 93 again a bad team not good at all and uh this is when they've got fucking nobody they got Brandon a Bronson a Royho they got
Starting point is 00:34:57 wow that's about it Scott Sauerbeck is one of your big fucking stars that's a problem here so this year for Pittsburgh he actually plays in 11 games they start him in all 11 games wow so they think
Starting point is 00:35:13 have a starter and they're going to try him out. And that's one of the advantages of going to a terrible team as they have some room to see what you got. He is 2 and 5 with a 491 ERA. That's not bad. He got 11 games. That's a good two months worth of work. Much better.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah, that's much better. So his ERA for the season is 551, which isn't great, but the second half of the season he did much better. Made 230 grand. Hell yeah. So, I mean, that's better. March 20th, 2001 in spring training, he's released by the pirates.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Uh-oh. March 27th, he's signed as a free agent with the Giants, which he's excited about because he's going home. April 24th, 2001, he's released by the Giants. Oh, they've seen enough. May 8th, 2001, signed as a free agent with the Mets. There we go. Go to New York now.
Starting point is 00:36:01 August 5th, 2001, released by the Mets. Ouch. Going back home now. That was a nice little vacation. August 7th signed with the Brewers. This is a busy. Imagine. Imagine living this.
Starting point is 00:36:14 The option. He's living like a road comic. Yeah, there's no way he moved to these places, right? Three days in Toledo, I guess. Yeah. Some efficiency, you know, corporate apartments or whatever that the team puts them up in or some shit. Or something long term, yeah, something long term, and long term meaning like a month. But he's staying in shit hotels with his fingers crossed that he gets to buy a house soon.
Starting point is 00:36:41 and he's not getting it. No, he needs a contract. He needs a team to say, we're going to keep you for a minute here. So, yeah, signs as a free agent with the Mets, released by the Mets August 5th, 2001. August 7th, signed with the Brewers, August 15th, or October 15th, 2001. So he must have rode out the season with the, that seems there, two months for Christ's sake. That's quite the stretch for him. So he's a free agent at this point, granted free agency.
Starting point is 00:37:07 November 3, 2001, signs as a free agent with the Anaheim Ames. Angels. He's going to go there. March 28, 2002, before the season starts, right at the end of spring training, he's released by the Angels. Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So he is in a shit world of hurt right now. Tried out for a third of the league so far. Dude, he's played for almost as many teams as Greg Jeffries at this point. And I think the same ones. Pretty much, yeah. August, except for the Brewers, as we know. Yeah. August of 2000.
Starting point is 00:37:41 He pitches for a minute here for the China Trust Wales, which is a team in the Chinese professional baseball league in Taiwan. I didn't know that. The Chinese Trust or the Chinese Trust Wales? It's China Trust. Okay. That's China Trust Wales. Yeah. This is, I had no idea there was a Chinese professional baseball league in Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:38:05 No clue. Yeah. I don't know. I know the Little League kids can share fucking play, but that's it. Yeah. I don't know. November 14th, 2002, signs as a free agent with the St. Louis Cardinals. There you go.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Here we go. August 21st, 2003, released by the St. Louis Cardinals. That's a good organization. You want to stay there. Yeah, you do. He began the season pitching for AAA, the Memphis Redbirds, but was released after going 0 and 1 with a 9 ERA in three games in AAA. This is not going well.
Starting point is 00:38:38 No. So then he went to play in the Mexican League for Monterey for a while. So now he's been in China and Mexico, which if you're an athlete, that's a bad sign. It's a sign things aren't going your way. And he's failing at a rate 100%. Everywhere he goes. He's bad at this. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Teams are still signing him. That's baseball you get so many chances if you're left-handed. Oh, my guy. If he was right-handed, he'd have been out of the league 80s. 18 ago. Done. Absolutely. It's crazy, though, that you can be this. I mean, and now you want to say this bad, but he is, he's clearly so good at this. Just not at the level that he wants to be at. Yeah, if you saw, if he came to your house and started throwing in your backyard, you go, holy shit, look at this guy. Yeah, you should do this professionally. Oh, they hate me.
Starting point is 00:39:34 When put next to Randy Johnson at that time in 2003, it didn't quite. work the same way. So by August 25th, 2003, he's bought again by the Cincinnati Reds this time from Monterey of the Mexican League. Okay. And that is, I think the Mexican leagues, one of the things they exist on financially is they get these American players then hope that someone will buy them from them. That's what they do. That's how they make their money. They make a couple of bucks like that because I remember hearing about that back in the day there. 2003
Starting point is 00:40:10 Cincinnati Reds are 69 and 93. Dude, you can almost call it. Every team he plays for is 69 and 93. They suck. They had three managers this year. That's not good. Bob Boone, Ray Knight, and Dave Miley,
Starting point is 00:40:25 all three. None of them with a winning record. Well, Ray Knight was 1 and 0, so that's good. And then they shake hand him. Then they shook hand him. I think he was just filling in for a minute there. This is, they have Aaron Boone on this team, Ryan Dempster.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Ken Griffey Jr., of course, on this team. Oh, at the end. Oh, yeah. Very, yeah, he's hanging on there. Barry Larkin, of course, still 39, 39-year-old. Griffey's only 33 at this point. Nine-year-old Barry Larkin? 39-year-old Barry Larkin. Absolutely. He was on the team that won the World Series, right?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, he was on the 90 team, yeah. Versaibo and Jose Rejo and all those fucking guys here. So yeah, Jesus, there's some shit guys on this team too. You know the team suck because the roster is enormous. There's 57 guys on the roster, which means a lot of guys came up and down and left and went and they had a lot of turnover. So 2003 Cincinnati, he pitches in 10 games, starts four. Not bad. He's 1 in 3 with a 540 ERA.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Okay. Not great. again, not exactly making your presence known with authority. And it's another Bull Durham reference here. Certainly not winning games. He's not announcing his presence with authority. October 4, 2003, he's granted free agency. Go ahead on, Dan, do what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, and that's the same as released, right? Pretty, well, yeah, that means he's... More or less, yeah. They make it sound a granted free agency, like it's a gift. Shop yourself. Oh, lovely. That's great if you have a, you know, a bunch of teams that want to give you money. but otherwise, if you're about to sign with Nippon, that's not a good idea. When you're out there begging.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And he does. He's pitched, he signs with Nipon of the Professional Baseball League of Japan. Yeah. He also played for the Chiba Latte Marines in 2004 and 5 and the Orix Buffaloes in 2006 and 7. So all over the world. Mexico, Japan, you name it. He's going. So now he's pitched in China, Mexico,
Starting point is 00:42:31 Japan, all over the place, and America. July 31st, 2007. This is incredible. He's signed as a free agent with the Colorado Rockies. Well, I mean, yeah. It is so amazing to. It's all pitching help there. You're just throwing fucking kindling on the fire up there when you have pitchers.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Just go ahead. We need more. More pitchers to get hit home runs off of. But it is so good to be left-handed if you're in baseball. It's just incredible. No right-handed pitcher would have a prayer. of them even remembering who the fuck he was at this point for the 60RA and everything else. So he signs with the Rockies.
Starting point is 00:43:07 They're 90 and 73 that year. Holy shit, a winning record. In Colorado, unheard of. They finished second in the N.L. West that year. Wow. Got a wild card birth. Sweep the Phillies in the divisional series. Sweep the Diamondbacks in the NLCS.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And then got swept by the Red Sox in the World Series. So all of their series that year were minimal amount of games. Yeah. If somebody won, they're going to win this series every time. But that's it. That's their only time going to the World Series, right, Colorado? I can't think any other time. No, they definitely never won, and I don't think they have any prospect of winning any time.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Boy, do they fucking suck right now. That's fun. That's fucking fun. So these Rockies, Jesus Christ, there is not a lot going on here. I'm looking at their roster. Holy shit, John Mabry was still playing. Good Lord. He's 36.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Helton's got to be there, right? Who? Helton? Helton? Yeah, I'm sure. I think Helton's still there. Yeah, Helton's still there. I think Larry Walker should be gone.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I think he should be on another team by now. Didn't he go to the World Series? I thought Walker and Helton both went that year. He is not on the team. That's crazy. Troy Tulowiceki. Looks like it's his rookie year. So he was used as a left-handed specialist for the Rockies.
Starting point is 00:44:26 he pitched in just three games and had one third of an inning pitched. In all three? One third of an inning. It means he got, they brought him in to get a lefty out. He didn't get him out and they yanked him.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That was it or he got him out and whatever. But he, only one third of an inning. So he only got one out that year. He had a 54 ERA. Oh, Jesus. That's not good at all. I mean, obviously it's in a third of an inning. So that just means he got hit up.
Starting point is 00:45:00 So October 10th, 2007, granted free agency. Okay. 2007 in the off season, he announced that he's going to be throwing batting practice to Barry Bonds in the off season. Why? That's his new job. Because he knows him. They live close together. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:45:20 November 27th, 2007, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He's suspended 50 games. suspended from what i don't know you're suspended from nothing mister hey you know that job that job at target you have you can't go there either 50 games
Starting point is 00:45:37 and red shirt are retired sir sorry those are on the shelf for a while there leave them in your locker failed drug test oh because he's trying to get in the league he's trying to get back so he's doing shit to try to get back um yeah he became this second player of the season
Starting point is 00:45:54 to have that he blamed the positive result on substances prescribed by a doctor in Japan. Oh. Blame those shifty Japanese. That's what it is. They did Pearl Harbor and then this. They're just bad. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:46:09 He said he was limited to a total of 16 games in 2006 and 7 because what he described as significant injuries. And he said, quote, while trying to accelerate the healing process of these injuries, I took substances that were prescribed for me by a doctor in Japan. What I did not know at the time was these substances would cause me to test positive once I returned to the U.S. I have not taken these or any banned substances since returning to the U.S. and signing with the Rockies organization in July. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:40 So he's, uh, that's not good. No, and he's making excuses. Yeah. If you're trying to play in the league, man, that is not.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And you're on the edge and then you get busted for that. They're like, well, how bad would he, he was terrible on the shit. How bad would he be off of it? This is not good. So he, 2008 and 9, he plays for Sultan de Monterey. So back to Monterey in the Mexican League here.
Starting point is 00:47:06 He played for got a bunch of teams down there. The Bridgeport Bluefish. And he appeared for Mexico in the February 2011 Caribbean series. He's very Caribbean of him. In 2011, he owned the Throw Like a Pro baseball academy. in Sparks Nevada. Sparks Nevada. Sparks Nevada outside of Reno there.
Starting point is 00:47:32 On Reno 911, they make fun of as the shit, even shittier area. Yeah. So, yeah, he throw like a pro, not like me, like a pro. I'll show you how to throw like an actual pro. Throw better than me. It should be called. 2012, Mexican League, Atlantic League, Mexican League again began the season. in with the Mexican League, ended up with the
Starting point is 00:47:58 Blue Port Blue Fish of the Atlantic League. He started 13 games out of 402 ERA there. His last game with them was on August 26th, 2012 versus the Sugar Land Skeeters. Yeah. And this was the
Starting point is 00:48:14 day after Roger Clemens started for the same team. No shit. Yeah, he made a, just a promotional thing, basically. Interesting here. They said They said that was his last appearance of the season. And he went back to the Mexican League signing with Jesus.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Naraneros di Hermesio. Okay. That's right. Okay. July 24th, 2013. This is, they have a big interview with Dan here. They say at home in the bullpen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:50 He's pitching for Team Italy in the 2013 World Baseball Classic, which tells you the talent level of the Italian national team here that this guy who can barely cut it in the Mexican leagues is like well he's one of our best we need him he's not even from here but we still need him that's great
Starting point is 00:49:07 hey Italian team I'm available just I'm a little you know I'm bringing Jimmy with me though so you got to sign us both I'm recovering man yeah yeah I got I got to have a I got to have a hype man back there
Starting point is 00:49:19 so he he began his this is his 22nd season as a pro Jesus Christ they say about his 104 MLB appearances with twins,
Starting point is 00:49:34 Cubs, Rockies, twins, Cubs, pirates, Padres, Reds and Rockies. Jesus Christ, he's been a fucking mess. So he is also,
Starting point is 00:49:45 he opens up a sports bar in Sparks Nevada as well. Great, great move. What do you think that? What do you think it's called? Free agents Nope I'm available
Starting point is 00:49:57 Is what should we call Sign me please I'm available It would be great because it's like a bar People thinking yeah that's a good name I think it goes all the way What did they call it? The bullpen
Starting point is 00:50:10 Oh yeah The bullpen of course Because he's And there's so This is a thing that athletes do all the time Is they'll put their money Whatever little money they have They'll put it into some bar
Starting point is 00:50:21 and they'll think that that's going to get people to come there, but it's still a bar. Booz sells very well, but the people that make the money are Jack Daniels and Godlight. Yeah. That's why that's why fucking that handsome fuck has made more money off of tequila than anything else he's ever done in his life. Ever, ever, yeah. It's booze makes money. All that other bullshit was just, was just fucking preamble for, for Cicillah money. Who gives a shit?
Starting point is 00:50:49 He's got tequila money. Yeah, he sat around at 10. years old and said, I'll be a tequila empresario someday. That's how I'll do this. So, they talk about, here's the interviewer says that his high school's been known to produce their fair
Starting point is 00:51:03 share of athletes, including Barry Bonds and all these different things. They said, you know, how does it feel to be surrounded by a strong Bay Area professional athlete fraternity at Sarah? Dan says Sarah High School is a great baseball
Starting point is 00:51:19 facility and just a great school to go to. We had a lot of great players. Jim Fregosi, manager of the Phillies and a bunch of other, Dan Fricela, even some football players, Lynn Swan, Tom Brady, you know, only a couple. Yeah. Just a couple of major Hall of Famers, that's all. Yeah, just a couple of guys. You may have heard of them, not sure. Some really good baseball players like Greg Jeffries have come out of my school. So they ask him, Team Italy slugger Chris Cullabello followed the same minor league path of the MLB playing for AA New Britain Rock Cats. While you played there, you were named 1995 Eastern League All-Star team member
Starting point is 00:51:57 after going 12 and 9 with a 337 ERA. Dan says the most honest thing in the world. That was a long time ago. I can barely remember that. I've been so many places. Like, it's ridiculous. You know how drunk I got to get at night to forget this shit? What year was I there?
Starting point is 00:52:14 I don't even remember. Fuck. He said at New Britain, Chris got to play in the new stadium. I played at the old Beehive Stadium, which was more like a high school stadium with a trailer park locker room. I had a good year that year, and it got me a call up to AAA once the season was over.
Starting point is 00:52:30 They said you made your major league debut against the Yankees in June of 96, and he said it was not an easy team to pitch against for my first time playing in the big leagues, but it was a great memory. It was kind of funny. That was a tough team. You got like Paul O'Neill taking pitches
Starting point is 00:52:45 and fouling shit off like crazy, Bernie Williams going deep in counts. They had a lot of, and like the back that was Chili Davis on that team, a lot of veterans that went deep in counts and would just work pitchers. Those 90s, Yankees, their whole goal was work that pitcher to death. So he's out by the fifth inning and then eat that fucking bullpen. Yeah, that's what it was. Have 10, 12 pitch at bats and then eat that fucking bullpen alive when it comes in there. And it worked.
Starting point is 00:53:09 They did it for years. So they said all about that. He said, yeah, it was kind of funny. He said, the twins wouldn't let me into the locker room before the game. How is that funny? That sucks. It's not funny at all. No, they didn't want any animosity in the locker room because they hadn't sent anyone down to
Starting point is 00:53:27 AAA yet. So basically, he was going to come in and they knew somebody was getting sent down because he was there. I had to stay in a hotel and then on game day I got to show up right before the game started so I could get ready to play. It wasn't the greatest experience, but it was still a good experience. I got to the big leagues. That's just shitty.
Starting point is 00:53:45 The twins should have done a better fucking job. They should have manned up. sent whoever down and said, this is a kid we're bringing up today. Don't be a cunt. That's it. What are we doing? They wonder why they were fucking 69 and 92 every year.
Starting point is 00:53:59 What shitty management that Tom Kelly had? That's terrible. Jesus Christ. So they said at least it was a home game when you had to face the intimidating Yankees. He said, although it was a home game in Minnesota, it was still intimidating. It was the New York Yankees,
Starting point is 00:54:13 no matter where you're playing them. They're intimidating. Crowd factor definitely helped. I had the crowd on my side. I loved Minnesota. It was very supportive. He said, you had some more playing time with 97 and 98 with the twins. Was that rewarding?
Starting point is 00:54:26 He says it was. I made a couple hundred grand. I mean, what else? You had a 90RA otherwise. He said, I got a very brief opportunity with the twins. You know, going back from starting to the bullpen and starting and bullpen, I was never really able to fill my niche with the twins. It was rewarding.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I'm a major league baseball player. There is nothing more rewarding than that. they talk about the Cubs, buying your contract, and all that kind of thing. He said the ERA was kind of high, meaning his, because it was a $6.93. But in my defense, I actually pitched really well until after the All-Star break. You must have pitched horrifyingly on that then. And then it fell apart? He said, I think I only had a three or $350 ERA up until the All-Star break.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Then my big league pitching coach, Marty DeMert, wanted me to become a left-handed specialist and drop down sidearm and start pitching sidearm only. Oh, trying to Randy Johnson this shit in there. No, sidearm, not three quarters. Didn't he? Oh, like all the way down. Yeah, like a submarine or a sidearmor that really throws off lefty. So you'd come in just to pitch to a tough lefty, throw your sidearm shit and be done.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Like kind of a. Yeah, but very specialized lefty. There was a couple guys like that. He said, so I did that and it completely screwed up the whole rest of my season. I was walking everybody, giving up all kinds of hits, and just all kind of happened. I can't blame him. He was just trying to help me out. But to change your pitching mechanics in the middle of a season, it's really hard to make an adjustment to big league hitters.
Starting point is 00:55:59 It hurt me pretty good. Yeah, maybe over the off season or something, but you can't send a guy down to the Dominican League or something to work on it. But you can't just be like, hey, I know we were playing these guys yesterday. Tomorrow, try sidearm. It's fucking ridiculous. Then stand on your head and throw pitches for this neck. You're really going to fuck them up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:22 So they asked him about going to San Diego, how to feel to go back to California. And he said, I didn't get many opportunities. I was mostly like a chess pawn. I just kind of sat in the dugout. I'd go a week straight without pitching a game. I didn't get as many opportunities as I would have liked to become a better player than I am today. San Diego is beautiful and I'm from California, even though it's northern California where I'm from. Southern California is a beautiful place.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I guess I had more fun there off the field than on the field. Yeah, they kind of used him as a lefty guy that basically so you don't send in a left-handed pinch hitter. That's all he is. He's a blocking mechanism because then you'll bring him in. So he got traded to Pittsburgh and they said then you played for the Nashville Sound and you pitched well there, got called up to the pirates. And he said after getting traded from San Diego, I had a really good month or so. Nashville before getting called up. Made my first start against the San Francisco Giants and won.
Starting point is 00:57:19 That could have probably been my favorite time in the big leagues to go back home to my hometown and beating San Francisco in San Francisco. I had a pretty good season with Pittsburgh. They were struggling in last place. I threw well for Pittsburgh. I just didn't fit in their books. So they go, must have been a dream come true to sign with San Francisco, right? And he said, I didn't get to stay with San Francisco too long.
Starting point is 00:57:42 He is just an ER, man. Isn't this great? Well, not really. Everything's just bad news, but. Well, the interviewer keeps trying to put this positive spin on constant failure, and it's difficult. You know what I mean? You went there. Wasn't that great?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Oh, not really, because I was there two weeks and they cut me. So at that point, kind of sucked. Yeah. Yeah, man. He said, they signed me as a big league player, but they didn't have a roster spot. I went to AAA for a little bit. I was making a substantial amount of. of money for a AAA player, so when they couldn't find a spot for me, I got released about a month
Starting point is 00:58:17 later. So, okay. Said you signed with the Mets. And he said, I didn't waste any time. Maybe two days later signed with the Mets, went to AAA, played there a little bit, pitched pretty well, but got into an altercation with the GM. What? Can't do that if you're a- Why'd you do that?
Starting point is 00:58:34 A guy with a 70RA and a bunch of teams behind you that you haven't pitched well for. And you've only been here a minute. Wow. He said, I ended up getting released and walking on over to the other clubhouse and signed with Milwaukee the same day because they were playing each other. So they said you finished with the AAA Brewers. They ended up signing a minor league deal with the Angels. And he said, well, you know the thing is, because they say, please clear up all the misconceptions and incorrect information that the media has picked up on to make you have to stand up for yourself and clarify. He says, well, you know, the thing is, the media, they always say you were released, you were released, you were released.
Starting point is 00:59:14 But for a lot of those teams, I actually picked the option for my release. That's why it's granted free agency, not released. He said, I didn't get released. They would option me down to AAA, and I felt that I didn't deserve to go to AAA. So for a lot of those assignments, I chose not to go. And that's what you do. If they sign you to a major league contract, then they send you down, you can refuse it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:35 you're allowed to refuse it, then they can release you outright, but they have to pay you your contract. So that's how it works. So they said after opting out of your contract with the Angels, not getting released, mind you, hey, we're not going to get crazy here. You tried to make a comeback with the Cardinals, but you were released, and he said, I knew it was going to happen because during the offseason, I signed for such a high contract to go to AAA. I knew they were using me to fill a spot, so I knew as soon as no one came down from the big leagues, or something like that, I was going to get released. He said, so you expected it?
Starting point is 01:00:10 He said, I had signed for a substantial amount of money to go play in AAA. Within the first month, when Kevin Ome was sent down from St. Louis, they got rid of me the next day. I pitched okay there, but it was really hard because I've always been a starter my whole career, and I kept bouncing back and forth. So I was going from bullpen to starting to bullpen and starting, and never got into a rhythm. For all the teams I played for,
Starting point is 01:00:32 I really had a tough time coming out of the bullpen and learning my routine and learning to play. Unfortunately, I didn't really prove myself that well as well. It's hard to go from starting to start. No shit. It's a completely different mindset, completely fucking different. And, you know, the guy's, a rhythm is a big thing in a baseball season, getting your groove on and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:00:54 So they said it sounds like the experiment on the big league level of being a sidearm specialist coming out of the bullpen went terribly wrong. And he said, they said it was not. not exactly the best training round for trying something new. And he said, no, the only chance I had to experiment was on the big stage, which is really difficult if you're not physically or mentally prepared for those things. And I wasn't. I was only 21 or 22 at the time.
Starting point is 01:01:17 It was a difficult road for me. That's for sure. They said, this is a great question. Did being disillusioned with American pro ball inspire you to head south to Mexico? Huh? Disillusioned. Did the fact that no one would give you money to do it? this anymore make you go to another place
Starting point is 01:01:36 where people would give you money? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. Did being rejected by all these women make the next time you had sex that much better? Yeah. Did not getting the Tonight Show mean that Conan needed to do a podcast? Yeah, it did.
Starting point is 01:01:52 That was what it was. It didn't inspire him to start podcasting. I didn't get the fucking Tonight Show. This sucks. I've got to make another thing. Okay. He said, yes, Dan said. I played my very inspired to go down there. Played my first year in 2002. It was winter ball for Mazatlan.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I had a great year and a fun time there. And they said if I ever had a problem in the summer, I was more than welcome to play in Mexico. Nice. So I went after the St. Louis series. I went in 2003 to go play summer ball in Mexico, otherwise known as baseball. It's played in the summer.
Starting point is 01:02:28 They said the Reds noticed you and purchased your contract in 03. He said, I ended up winning the ERA, title in Mexico, obviously. I set the record for most wins in a row that season. I was a starter. I got back in the swing of things. I got my mechanics back and pitched really well. I got called up and went straight to the big leagues
Starting point is 01:02:46 in Cincinnati. He said, you started against the Brewers one game and he said, I believe I also started in a game versus St. Louis. Then I went back to the bullpen after I told the GM, I wouldn't go to the bullpen and that I would only start. Because I already had 130 innings pitched in Mexico, I was tired and didn't want to get up and down every day out of the bullpen. After I said I only wanted to start, the GM said that was exactly what I was summoned there to do to start for Danny Graves because he got hurt.
Starting point is 01:03:17 So I went there, got two starts, then they stuck me in the bullpen. It was a disappointment. I know it's business and I just need to man up and do it. It was just hard. So then he said, I talked to Bobby Valentine, a world-class dickhead there in 2004. and he asked me to go down to Vegas and throw a bullpen for somebody to try out for the team that he managed in Japan. I went there and tried out for the Chiba Latte Marines. I was hurt at the time.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I had a broken collarbone because I crashed my motorcycle messing around with my friends. Jesus Christ, so he went to Japan. So they talk about going all over the place and he said it was really rewarding because I got treated like a player that I was. Japan did nothing but give me the highest respect. Bobby Valentine did nothing but give me the highest respect. He kept me on a routine for the full season, and I had a really good career in Japan. I still talk to Bobby on and off on the internet.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Oh. Okay. They said, do you follow all the drama that surrounded Bobby Valentine last year when he managed the Red Sox? And he said, I did. In fact, before the season began, I called him and asked him for a job to see if I could get a AAA job or a coaching slash player job.
Starting point is 01:04:25 His hands were tied. He said he couldn't make any moves, but I followed him and said, saw all the disappointing articles about him and stuff from players that couldn't handle his attitude. I thought it was ridiculous. He's the smartest guy in baseball hands down. He may want a little more attention than he deserves, but he's a character.
Starting point is 01:04:42 If people don't like it, they try to crucify him. He's a very good man. Okay, Bobby V. They try to. Yeah, I don't know. The guys who want attention a lot are really hard to have as managers. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:59 Like, only I'm saying this because I'm a Yankee fan, but like you want like that Joe Tori type that is the, this calm, consummate Yankee too. He's just like, come steady hand at the till is what, you know, that's what you want. You don't want this, you don't want somebody crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But then sometimes that can really be good. It's just they don't last a long time in place. As players get burned out like a Billy Martin. Sure. It was a great Earl Weaver's another guy like that. You know, just wore the guys out though. Who's the Cardinals one? Whitey Herzog.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Yeah, there he is. Whitey Herzog's great to play for everybody said though. He's got a real, he's a real wise ass and like he's got a real sense of humor and everything. That Seasons and Hell book, Whitey Herzog managed for the first year of the Rangers being in Texas. And this guy said Whitey Herzog was the biggest treat ever to cover. He was just a great fucking guy and hilarious and everything else. So they said it was too bad he was the scapegoat for the Red Sox, this interviewer says. They go, it really was.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I know he's done some things in his past that rub people the wrong way, and we all have. It's just the way different personalities go, especially when you have a bunch of superstars in the one locker room. It's almost like you have to walk on eggshells around those people because they're more sensitive than most people that are not superstars. They say, when a player digs into the batters box and gives you a long grimacing stare is your best response and message to the hitter. simply the delivery of your next pitch. And Dan says, yes, definitely, without a doubt. There has to be respect both ways. For me, I've always been tired of being called a cheater or having a dismal career by what some reporters have said.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Well, he got busted for PEDs and you had a dismal career. So they're really just noticing that the sun has risen and you're going, hey, hold on, don't say that. I feel like I fought the longest, just like Bobby Valentine, to get to my career to where it is right now. And they said you signed a deal with the Rockies in 2007 and pitched a game against the Giants. And he said, it was a great feeling. I was excited. It was tough because I had just come back from Japan. I broke my hand in Japan and they decided to release me in the last quarter of the season just because they were not going to use me anymore and had no chance of the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:07:14 So they sent me home. I signed with Colorado, got called up to the big leagues a couple weeks later, and after four years of having not seen a major league game, got to pitch to my first batter. Barry Bonds. Oh. That's fun. Yeah. I haven't been to the bigs for a while. Oh, here's the fucking...
Starting point is 01:07:35 That's going out. Most insane hitter in the last 25 years. So they said, what were the odds of you facing one of baseball's most feared hitters? And he said, it was pretty interesting. I had some butterflies. So the injury to the hand,
Starting point is 01:07:48 he said, that happened in Japan. I was pitching and lost my footing in the bullpen. It was on my glove hand. I kind of slipped and fell over. I used my hand. to stabilize myself from falling over and I broke my ring finger, pinky and a couple of bones in the middle of my hand.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. No pitcher in the history of fucking baseball has ever broke their hand like that. Delivered a pitch then fell over and broke your glove hand
Starting point is 01:08:19 while trying to brace yourself. That's the craziest thing I've ever fucking heard. It's impossible. Is it? It's fucking impossible. I could certainly. see straining something. I don't know about breaking the whole hand.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Broke two fingers and bunch of bones in the middle of your hand. You punch something, you fucking idiot. He punched something. He had to, right? Yes, he punched something, which is against what the team, they won't pay you if you punch something. So he had to say it happened in the bullpen.
Starting point is 01:08:46 He probably got pissed off and punched a wall or something. That's just the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. They said in Japan, you also sustained an Achilles injury. Jesus, this fucking guy is a mess, which required medication to help with the healing process and eventually led to a positive test. This is the problem with the positive test.
Starting point is 01:09:06 He said, I actually got a serious injury and had surgery on my Achilles. When I came back, I tore my Achilles tendon in the year we won the championship. I signed a two-year contract with the Orix Buffaloes for a substantial amount. My leg was in a cast for four months, so they were shooting it up all year long trying to get it balanced back. after my first year at Orix, I wasn't throwing very well because my body was so out of balance.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Then it started hurting my shoulder and back. So they told me to just take the rest of the year off and come back for 2007. I was still having problems with my legs and the way my muscles were firing that year. So again, a doctor was giving me medication that I didn't think much of because I passed all my drug tests
Starting point is 01:09:45 and Olympic testing in Japan. So I didn't think twice about it. And that's when it was. That's when it was. I got tested on the last day of the season. with Colorado. It was still in my system and I got busted for it. They said it looks like MLB used you as a scapegoat to fill their 2007 quota and deter players from using banned substances. Yeah. Who is this guy? His fucking, is this is like his PR guy or who
Starting point is 01:10:12 the fuck is interviewing him? What a complete moron. Yeah, they're using a guy that's been fired from every team he's ever played for as a scapegoat. As a scapegoat. Teach a lesson. Ridiculous. And he says, Yes, I think so. They don't even knew who you were, dude. What are you talking about? Well, that helps me, actually. Yeah. He said, I mean because I tried to fight it.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I had to do a lot of things for my defense. I had to get the doctor from Japan to come and fly to New York to testify for me in court. He wanted $500,000 to do it because it would give Japan a bad name since I never failed to test in Japan. So I said, screw it. I'll take their 50 game suspension and wear it for now. I didn't think that would be that bad, but Colorado didn't sign me back. Also, because you sucked. That's the other reason.
Starting point is 01:11:01 They were not good. The GM at the time, Dan O'Dow, didn't give me my National League championship ring. They gave me a playoff share because I was there for a short time, but they didn't give me a ring because they were disgraced by the fact that I was a cheater and stuff like that. It was just bad. The team votes on who gets rings, by the way. That's part of it. Yeah. an unnamed journalist tried to say that I would and playoff shares that they that's a big deal
Starting point is 01:11:26 they literally I don't know if it's still the same now but like in the 70s they would sit down the whole team would have to sit down and decide who gets a ring no not rings playoff shares who gets what does this guy does the coach do the coaches get that does that coach get that does the trainer get that literally all of this shit they can divvy it up is a crazy deal so he says an unnamed journalist tried to say that I was trying to re-spark my dismal career. My response was, what's so dismal about making over $10 million? I don't think that's too dismal. Did he make over $10 million?
Starting point is 01:12:01 Probably with Japan and everything. If you add it all up for 20 years, I'm sure he made $10 million. But, I mean, you don't have $10 million after that. No way. So the reporter or whatever this idiot is said, if a man can't look me in the eye and share his theory to my face without the facts in hand and instead choose to hide behind a computer desk in favor of meeting publishing deadlines, then it's not newsworthy in my book.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Okay. Yes, be more friends with Dan than other reporters. He says exactly, you know, it's like so many people just wrote stories about me that have never even asked me the details or took the details out. Even Tom Verducci and things he wrote in my article, I said so many things to balance and justify the difference between. cheating and other kinds of uses of certain PEDs or whatever, and they don't want to listen to that, but everybody wants to be negative and listen to listen in to CNN nowadays. Well, you'll be on CNN plenty in a little bit here.
Starting point is 01:13:02 They said, not a lot of players want to comment and fear of being blackballed, but you're not afraid to speak your mind and represent Team Italia in the World Baseball Classic. It's your time to shine and be heard. Right. Who the fuck is this kite man that is interviewing this guy? This is insane.
Starting point is 01:13:19 They say, he says, yes, it is. If people want to call me a jerk, whatever. But you know what? I've been around this game for 22 years now. And I know that 90% of the people I played with have said, if I had a chance to use it and make myself better, then I would have too. You know, that's what we're here for.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Yeah, that's fair. The guy said, I don't blame you for having headed south to pitch for Monterey after all that nonsense. He had no choice. Stop acting like, Where's he going to go? He like turned his nose up at the MLB and was like, these people have treated me wrong.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I'll play in Mexico. No players ever said that in the history of the world. He said that they were a great organization. I played for them for a while. I pitched well in Monterey, got to the playoffs a few times, then I got traded. So he talks about going to that team, which doesn't really matter. The Caribbean League.
Starting point is 01:14:13 They said, what's the difference between baseball played abroad and in the U.S.? He said for one, the United States has the best players in the world in the major leagues, so it's kind of hard to represent the United States because it has so many players. Mexico and Italy have a lot of great players that have been overlooked by the United States. It's hard. With me representing Mexico, I'm one of the better players in Mexico because that's where I'm playing at the time. With my experience and talent, I could make those teams and play for those teams. I could possibly pitch for Team USA, but that team has so many Americans from all over the country to pick from.
Starting point is 01:14:46 You know, ones that don't have a seven career IRA. So it's really hard to make that team. So he said they call, Team Italia called him in 2009 and found out that I was Italian through my agent. What? They couldn't find out through his last name. I could have told you that from fucking space that he was Italian. They don't have your card?
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah, he said after they got my background information about my Italian ancestry, they said they would love for me to come over and try out. I came down and tried out and they said they could definitely use me as a starter or a lever because of my good arm. So, yeah. He said that this guy said once, the reporter said, once Team Italia's manager Marco Metzieri gave me his cell phone number, I felt compelled to do him the same and gave him a scouting report on Team Canada. We all had to do our part. and Dan says, well, that's it exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:45 We're here to win right now. I'm not an American. I'm an Italian. Well, you're actually an American, an Italian-American. You're both. You can be both. That's good. And I'm here to beat Team USA today.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I think he's meaning on the team. Like, I'm not an American ball player. I was there to beat Canada yesterday, and I was there the day before to beat Mexico. Granted, I have friends from every team all over the world, but right now I'm just Italian. they say how proud of you how proud are you to be an Italian I think the interviewer's name is Roberto so I think he's being interviewed by an Italian man in Italy possibly he said I'm a very proud I'm a very proud to be an Italian he said it's unfortunate because I've always had strong Italian family growing up but Italian heritage or history was never really taught I never learned Italian
Starting point is 01:16:34 though my father speaks it and he said I just wasn't brought up that way now doing more research about Italy and possibly thinking later in my career to maybe going to play in Italy for a bit. How much more of a career do you think you have, bro? Yeah. I'm really interested in the Italian culture and to visit all around Europe. I'm looking forward to it. Italians are a well-educated culture to begin with. Everyone on our team speaks perfect English and perfect Italian.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Some speak Spanish, Italian, and English. Wow. I think they're just educated people. My grandmother spoke five languages. They all speak a shitload of language. Spanish and Italian are they love to each other? Yeah. They're the same fun.
Starting point is 01:17:10 thing. Yeah. If you ever worked in a fucking an Italian restaurant in Arizona like I did, you got the Italian waiters scream shit out in Italian to the Mexican cooks who then answer back in Spanish and then they go back and forth in their native languages understanding everything. So it's fun.
Starting point is 01:17:26 So he said that unfortunately when you move to another country and you're unable to speak their language fluently, you tend to get away from your native language. I know when I played in Mexico, my whole team spoke English. I didn't have a chance to learn Spanish because people talk to me English.
Starting point is 01:17:41 So it's not as diverse as you think. It's a lot harder. Even my wife can tell you it's a lot harder to go there and learn a language because everyone is polite and tries to talk to you in your language and make you feel more comfortable. Unlike here where we just yell at you louder and slower and think you must be dumb because you can't get it. That slower bit is the important part.
Starting point is 01:18:02 It's louder and slower. Yeah. You must be a moron because English ain't your first language to someone who speaks four languages. The blessing. Oh, man. So he says that, so we have a tendency to get lazy and not try. But right now I listen to Italian tapes every night because I want to try to learn Italian.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Rosetta Stone. Yeah. He said, that's because everyone's trying to be hospitable and speak your native tongue. Is that what the guys ask, the reporter's asking? He says, yes, I mean, the Italians come right over here and they all speak English right out of the gate. They don't even try to speak Italian. They're like, no, we're in America now. English. That's what they do. They said, how does it, how does having a coaching staff that includes
Starting point is 01:18:47 future Hall of Famer Mike Piazza affect your approach to the game? He said, Mike's a great guy. Look at his story coming from the 60-second round as a favor to his godfather, Tommy Lassorda. That's the most Italian thing I ever heard. My godfather, Tommy Lassota, did me a favor and had me drafted in a 62nd round by the Dodgers. That's pretty fucking amazing. Something ridiculous like that and the best offensive catcher of all time, whatever his statistics are. So, yeah, they talk about... Best offensive catcher of all time. One of...
Starting point is 01:19:19 Yeah, but not the best. Can't name one with another guy who hit 3.30 with 40 homers all the time from the catcher's position. I mean, Pudge was pretty good for one. He didn't catch. Johnny Bench caught, but he stopped catching. He started playing third base halfway through his career. Johnny Bench was a great offensive catcher. Yogi Berra is another giant. beast of an offensive catcher.
Starting point is 01:19:41 But catchers are not offensive guys, generally. Not a lot of big hit and catchers. I'm trying to think of somebody little that caught. I guess, yep, that other Italian from the Dodgers was a good offensive player, but he was very. Italians. What's his name? Liduca. Liduca.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah, Paul Leduc. His dad had a pizza place up in Sedona. Yeah. It's interesting. They get, we're all like catchers and then managers. That's how Italians are. How many Italians? There's like 12 Italian players in the whole league and I think there's the same amount of managers.
Starting point is 01:20:19 That's just how it is. Yeah, I guess so. We're very good at managing for some reason. So they talk all about this. Thanks for your time today. Blah, blah, blah. Okay. Now, sometime in 2015, he marries a woman named Aaron Spor, S-P-O-H-R.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Okay. Also in 2015, after he's talking about his $10 million and all that kind of thing, he's on an episode of Bar Rescue with his bullpen bar. Oh, that was him. I've seen this episode too. Yeah, I've seen this episode. I have two. Is it the same as the fireman? No. I feel like it's the same season though, right? Oh, that's possible. That's possible. With the fireman bar? I don't remember, to be honest. possible. I do remember this,
Starting point is 01:21:07 the bullpen bar, I remember. I don't, I don't remember them mentioning that he played in the league. They mentioned it. They mentioned it. They have to. Yeah. They did the same thing with old L.B. there in Boston with that bar. Oh, they did his too?
Starting point is 01:21:23 Yeah. Remember? Yeah, he got, he was a total asshole the whole time and like got kicked out of the business because of it. He was a drunken menace. Yeah. So he appeared in 2015. He told the producer, he lost $14 million in bad investments and a bitter divorce settlement. Is that right?
Starting point is 01:21:43 Following the end of his career. So he's saying he had $14 million and blew it all in a few years. He purchased a bar called the Bullpen in Sparks, Nevada, and he was $300 grand in debt and at risk of losing his and his parents' home that are both extended for this. That is not good. Yeah, that bar was a huge piece of shit. June 11th, 2021, some things have happened. The Sacramento B says placer sheriff seeks suspect in homicide.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Deputies are seeking information from the public following the shooting death of a 70-year-old man last weekend at the North Lake Tahoe area residents. Authorities responding to a 911 call from a home in Homewood around 10 p.m. Saturday arrived to find the victim identified as Robert Spore. Yeah. Aaron's dad. Yeah. Dead of a single gunshot wound. The sheriff's office included surveillance video from the property a few hours earlier showing a person of interest. The video showed a man in a dark-coated sweatshirt, gloves, white neck gator, and gray backpack run down the street, then walk onto the property past an SUV parked in the driveway.
Starting point is 01:22:59 So they're looking for information of who that could possibly be. A few days later here, we have. a reward offered actually not a few days six months later February 4th 2022 there's a reward offered so they've got no information on this yeah in six months so now they're trying to figure it out they said the family of a couple of a Tahoe couple violently attacked in their home last year is now offering a reward apparently Robert was not the only one shot the wife was killed too the wife was shot too Wendy Wood there
Starting point is 01:23:35 is the wife, or I don't know if it's the wife or his girlfriend or whatever. Spores gal. Robert Gary Spore and Wendy Wood here. They lived at the residence. The attack killed Spore and left his wife suffering from two gunshot wounds to the head. Dang. Despite her injuries, she came two in the night and called 911. Wow.
Starting point is 01:23:56 They were left for dead. She woke up and was like, better call him 911. Got bullets in my head and he's dead. My God. Wow. So they said they left. The attacker didn't leave a trace. They said the attack has left the spore family searching for answers,
Starting point is 01:24:11 and they announced a $150,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction. Wendy said, for me, every day living with this uncertainty of who did this and why has been the most agonizing thing. She has no idea. No, they spent, she spent a month and a half in the hospital and is undergoing extensive rehab surgeries and rehabbing to learn how to do everyday tasks, such as walking, reading, and showering. Oh, God. Miserable. Jesus Christ, that is horrifying.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Her daughter said, she is amazing, but I can't be sure about my safety or my mom's safety without knowing who this person is. We're trying to get more info from the public and maybe someone who knows the person to try to get them to come forward. So they said the suspect appeared walking along the bike path in broad daylight
Starting point is 01:25:01 between 3.30 to 5.30 p.m. southbound on West Lake Boulevard. So, yeah, same info there. They learned the suspect was lying in wait inside the home for more than four hours before attacking them. Really? He sat in there waiting. So this was a, these people are going to die. Targeted assassination.
Starting point is 01:25:25 She goes on and says, I can't even fathom a human being laying in wait like that. They said that anyone who might have pictures or footage of the man from a selfie or dash cam could be really helpful. March 9th, 2023, Wendy Wood, who was shot twice in the head. This is a year later. They still haven't caught who did this to her. Shot twice in the head.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Wow, this is sad. She's been suffering from disabilities, depression, and she was with her husband for 50 years before this, too. Oh, Jesus. So on March 9th, she's in a senior. home where she's rehabbing herself. She kills herself. Ah, fuck.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Yep. Killed herself. Gave up on it. Yeah, she's like it. Can't do it. Can't make it. And she's also so depressed. If you're depressed from someone dying from 50 years and your body's a mess and everything like that, it's, that's tough.
Starting point is 01:26:22 I'm going to last long. So they say now her daughter, Adrian Spore, already filled with a hunger for justice, is even more determined than ever to catch the man who killed her father and in her mind killed her mother as well. She said she just couldn't handle the loss. She missed my dad like crazy. She was just stunned. It was like the killer killed her too.
Starting point is 01:26:42 When we bring that person to justice, I certainly hope they're held accountable for both deaths, which, no, they are very responsible for both. She said that she's all fucked up too. She said it's awful. You can't really ever go back to normal. There's this big question mark floating. Something horrific happened.
Starting point is 01:27:02 And yet it's like everyone else goes on with their lives, but there's such a chasm in your life. You have your suspicions, but no one yet has been brought to justice. She believes the killer knew her parents directly, which is what she says. I guess they described the house, by the way, as a towering chalet-style home in an upscale neighborhood alongside the lake and the homewood ski resort. In fucking Tahoe? Doing pretty well for themselves.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Investigators said they have new, clues that lead them to think that someone may have hired the shooter to kill the couple. Oh. And that whoever put up the money for the job or pulled the trigger may be from the Reno area. The killing happened on a Sunday Saturday with tons of people, sunny Saturday with a ton of people around. Sunday Saturday. That's the Sunday Saturday. One of those real chill Saturdays. Yeah. That's not going to work. The house sits next to the popular Hurricane Bay Beach and a busy bike path. There was no
Starting point is 01:28:03 signs of forced entry and no reports that day of anything suspicious in the area. The main clue of how the shooter got into the house comes from surveillance footage, showing what officials believed to be a man loping up the driveway before 530, wearing the hoodie in the mask and everything. They said, once inside the detectives believed the shooter waited for them to arrive. And when they did, sometime before 10 p.m., the killer pounced, shooting both in the head at point-blank range. He then fled taking nothing from the house. Nothing was taken.
Starting point is 01:28:37 No robbery. Just their lives. Just a who did you piss off? Yeah. This is a straight. I'm going to kill you. Yeah. They said Wood, the Wendy Wood, the wife, was prone in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Her daughter thinks their dog, Maggie, licked her out of concern long enough to revive her to make the call. What a good dog. That's a good boy. That's a good girl right there. Yeah. Woke her up with some face licks. That's a good damn dog. Fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Given the execution style, well, it was probably just licking the blood because it tasted good to her or something. Still, still, mission accomplished. I'm thirsty. Wake up. I got a shit. Wake up. I got a shit. Get up.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Given the execution style nature of the shootings and the lack of robbery, they quickly came to a conclusion. We firmly believe this was some sort of planned event targeted. However, now it's been two years. And they said it's tough to close in on the people they suspect were involved. Yeah. They said, who knows? They said, we're looking for multiple suspects who we believe were involved in the murder. We continue to track down all tips and leads.
Starting point is 01:29:40 That's it. They said the daughter, Adrian, said that, you know, they did a good job of refocusing the case. They've been working on it every day. They have a lot to do, and they have some leads. They said the family kept the house in the community, but last summer, Adrian finally took down the photos and heirlooms out of it. her mother was making progress physically with the help of friends and family but struggled with a lot of depression and anxiety they said she didn't remember being shot so that was actually good she didn't have that trauma but the fact that her husband wasn't around anymore
Starting point is 01:30:15 they had spent their whole lives i guess building and developing a real estate business and all this type of shit so adrian said my mom could never just move on this huge thing happened and it's like you're reading a novel and the final pages are missing or you're writing a story and there's no ending. Ultimately, it killed her. So, yeah, this is fucking wild. Now, Adrian, her older sister, Erin, married to Major League Baseball pitcher Dan Serafini here talks about. They said, Aaron said, we sold that bar a long time ago and my husband now works in underground mining here. In fucking Nevada?
Starting point is 01:30:56 Wow. How Italian. Jesus. From her heart. home in Reno. I miss my parents tremendously. And I wish they could see my kids, sons ages two and five grow up. I have no idea who did this to my parents. I wish I knew.
Starting point is 01:31:12 So they have the website, www. www. Homewoodhomicide.com was announced and the family was offering the $150,000 reward. Aaron said, my mom was the strongest person I know. But as the emergency faded away and reality set in, she just got overwhelmed by the loss. So, yeah, she said, we spread some of mom's ashes this winter on one of her favorite ski runs. We just need one good break in the case. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Here's the break. October 21st, 2023. Dan Serafini arrested in connection with murder of mother-in-law and attempted murder of mother-in-law. Why? His in-laws with his wife that he still married to. Yeah. Today? No, at that time.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Okay, yeah. That makes, that's fucking crazy. Why would he do that? Let's find out here. Man, that is a lot. So he's arrested the same day as Samantha Scott, 33, who was apprehended in Las Vegas. They noted in the post of the announcement of the arrest, the police department, that the arrests come two months and four years after the deaths. And the police note that the early stages of the investigation had authorities looking at the
Starting point is 01:32:27 Holmes video surveillance, leaving them with footage of a hooded male with a backpack and a face fucking thing. They said since then they've worked tirelessly to try to figure this out. The information detectives have gathered led to identifying Serafini and Scott as the suspects. Both suspects are known to each other and to the victims. The sheriff said today justice was served. Okay, that's good. They said, interesting. And then he said this, understand that my team's commitment to unraveling the most complex of cases prevails.
Starting point is 01:33:02 It's weird that he used the word team with him. And those who inflict harm upon the community will be held responsible, of course. He is in deep, deep shit. How the fuck does he know this Aaron girl? He's married to her. Aaron Scott? No, Spore. Spore.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Oh, Aaron Spore is the woman he's married to. Who's the Scott person? Scott. What are we talking about? Didn't you say somebody with the last name of Scott? That's the other. Samantha Scott, the co-defendant. Samantha Scott, the co-defendant.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Yeah, who the fucking sheet? Oh, we'll get into that. All right. We'll get into all that. But he, yeah, so now he and some 33-year-old woman are now charged and sitting in jail. He's in Humboldt County Detention Center. Wow. And he's being charged as a fugitive from justice as well for some reason because he was brought in from another state or something.
Starting point is 01:33:53 So he is fucked at this point. I mean, he thought he was fucked on bar rescue. Not only that, you now have no support because normally, let's say you killed somebody else. Your wife might stick by you and at least help you or something. You killed her fucking parents. You shot her parents. Well, at least that's what you're accused of. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:34:12 You're in deep fucking shit. And who the fuck is this Samantha bitch? That's what I mean. All of these things, his life could not be spewing shit any more readily than it is now. It's really a bad time and he's sitting in jail and he's. He's like, how did it get here? Yeah. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:34:28 How do you get here? I hung out with Barry Bonds. What happened? We job about it. This is bullshit. I don't know what to do. He's in his cell. Things aren't going well.
Starting point is 01:34:39 And someone comes in to help him out here. There's a knock on the old cell door. Someone's there to fix the plumbing. It's Paul Calhoun, shit pipe enthusiast. And he says, Hey, uh, how is it you come to arrive here, pal? What's wrong with you? Jesus, Christ, I was talking to my buddy, Bobby Colorado over here, right?
Starting point is 01:35:08 I was talking to him a little bit, and he said, for Christ's sake, you know, you're embarrassing. He said you're embarrassing the entire ethnicity. He didn't like it. He thought you were kind of a bum. He thought you was a bum, and he said, hey, this guy, you know, he goes, he goes to place for the Italian team and all this. He told me not to unclog your shit pipes. But I say, you know what? Normally, it's, yeah, clean your shit pipes, slap your wife, but you already shot a parent.
Starting point is 01:35:29 So I'm going to let her go on this one. So clean your ship pipes, shoot your wife's parents is not a good slogan. You know what I'm saying? We unplug this. We won't tell Vinnie Pazma. We won't tell her at all. Hold on, let me get in here. Oh, there's all sorts of shit in here.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I got excuses. There's a bottle of some kind of steroids in your pipes. Your pipes are full, my friend. Your shit pipes are a teeming. The teeming, I'll tell you. I don't see an alibi in here. That's one thing I don't see, pal. You're going to need that, but I don't see it in here.
Starting point is 01:35:58 And then poof, and he disappears. Yeah. In a cloud of pipes and wrenches, he's gone. What the hell? And Dan is very confused and thinks he must be tripping. October 31st, 2023, Halloween day. He pleads not guilty to murder and attempted murder charges. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Not me. He also faces special circumstances in the murder and attempted murder here as well. He's being accused of burglary for allegedly entering the home and an unlawfully with the intent to commit theft also. Okay. They said that he pleaded not guilty to the allegations, denying the special circumstances, including the use of a 22 caliber firearm. The district attorney said that this has been a big case for the county, and we're glad to see this day begin to get one step closer to justice. The second suspect, Samantha Scott, who was arrested as well, was taken into custody in South Las Vegas by U.S. Marshals, and they're still trying to figure this out and unravel it. Okay. Now, November 5th, 2023, he faces new charges.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Oh. If it wasn't enough to kill his father-in-law and shoot his mother-in-law, holy shit. He has now been accused of child abuse of two infants now. What happened to them? This is not good, man. You are seriously embarrassing all the fucking vowel people here at the last names. You're fucking us all up.
Starting point is 01:37:23 And who the fuck is Samantha Scott? We're going to try to get to that, too. So he, yeah, he's apparently in a criminal complaint, prosecutors allege that he committed cruelty to child by abuse, neglect, or endangering the health, citing mistreatment of his three-year-old and an eight, of a three-year-old and an eight-month-old. They didn't say whether the kids were his and didn't spell out the specific actions related to the alleged abuse. Interesting here. Wow. So May 19th, 2025, his trial starts. And here it goes.
Starting point is 01:38:04 And there's going to be some details in here. And Samantha Scott's going to spill the fucking beans because this wasn't her fucking idea. So witness says accused ex-MLB player confessed to Lake Tahoe area shooting is the headline here. Okay. Samantha Scott on Tuesday told a jury about the first time Major League Baseball player Daniel Serafini told her how he was involved in a shooting of his wife's parents. Oh, man. So they said Spore was shot once in the head and we know that stuff. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:37 So the authorities arrested Scott in October in connection with the shootings. She has since agreed to a plea deal and is testifying as a witness for the prosecution. Oh, we're about to find out who the fuck she is. Yeah, I think we know who she is. You don't just hang out with 15-year-old young. than you women as a friend when you're married. It just doesn't work. It feels like the reason they were together.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I have no lady friends 15 years younger than me right now. I have none. Zero. Oh, gotz. He said Serafini's murder trial continue with Scott's second day of testimony. She said Serafini told her about the shooting as they sat in his pickup truck one day in the summer in 2021 at his wife's horse ranch. He's bringing his mistress to the wife's house? This is so fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Yeah, she said, quote, He had told me that he had shot Wendy twice in the head and she survived. She said it was shocking. She said he didn't tell her anything about how his father-in-law was shot. She said that up until then she had had suspicions that Serafini was involved in the shooting, but didn't think he was capable of it. She had already been questioned by the sheriff's department, and she said Serafini told her investigators might think she was involved.
Starting point is 01:39:51 She testified about how she was. she saw Serafini test fire a handgun with a makeshift silencer hours before they were shot. Okay. He was making silencers. Yeah. That's a bad. And the fact that this shooting happened next to all these people and all this very active area says that he used it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:40:12 That is remarkable. She drove him back to Nevada as he got rid of the gun, his clothing, gloves, and backpack. That's why she's arrested. The prosecutor and the murder. murder trial told the jury's jury that investigators never found those items. Scott said, he said, try not to say anything else. Try to say anything. Try to come up with a plan why you were in Tahoe.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Bro, you need to come up with this shit. It's your murder plot. You need to tell her what her alibis are and stuff. Holy fucking shit. So they said that Scott drove Serafini in her Subaru from Nevada to California, dropping him off near his wife's. parents home before he snuck into the home. So she fucking was part.
Starting point is 01:40:56 She drove him there. Yeah. Where did she think he was going? She's to do what? Super involved. That's what I mean. This is crazy. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:06 She dropped him off near the parents' home. That's then we find him walking before he snuck into the home and waited to ambush the in-laws. And if he was a son-in-law, he would know a way to get into the house that didn't look like forced entry as well. Probably, yeah. So Scott met, I guess, Serafini's wife. Aaron five years before the shooting.
Starting point is 01:41:25 They met at Aaron Spor's horseback riding business and became friends. Scott would often do odd jobs for Spore and her family, including working as a nanny in exchange for horseback lessons and housing her horse at the stables. He is fucking the
Starting point is 01:41:40 nanny? The horse riding nanny, yes. Who's trading nannying for horse lessons. Scott said in court that Serafini told her they were picking up a package on the Day of the shooting in Tahoe City. She assumed the package was drugs, she said.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Because you get drugs from your father-in-law, usually. That's where you get them. It's where all my drugs come from. Sarah's dad just hands him out. You should see. He's crazy with that. So she said she didn't know at the time that she dropped him off on the day of the shooting less than two miles away from the wife's parents' home. So she didn't know. She said she waited for him for hours before he returned and they drove away. She sat there for five hours waiting for him. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Days after the shooting, Dan convinced her that pre-existing minor damage to the tailgate of her Subaru made the vehicle too recognizable. So he drove to the back of his pickup into the rear end of the Subaru to create more damage that would require her to have it fixed at a shop. And then he gave her money for repairs. He said that way it'll be fixed. Well, that way it'll be fixed. Yeah. Yeah. And then you won't be able to see it.
Starting point is 01:42:55 I'll pay her deductible. Scott testified her affair with Dan started with flirtation in October 2023. About five months after the wife's parents were shot, they decided to meet at an Elko hotel where they had sex for the first time. Gross. Boy. A motel and Elko. She said she never told her. her friend, Serafini's wife, she was having an affair with her husband.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Well, no shit. That stopped a couple months later, but continued up until their arrest. What? That stopped a couple of months later. It stopped and then started again. Okay, yeah. I feel it was a bad decision on my part, Scott said. Which part?
Starting point is 01:43:39 Being the getaway vehicle for a murder or fucking your friend's husband. Which one? Which one are we talking about? Scott said that about never telling her friend about. the shooting. So a little of both. A, little column A, little column B there. Yeah, that's how that works. 601. So
Starting point is 01:43:56 Serafini and Scott were arrested, obviously, at the same time. This is wild. The filed charges indicate prosecutors believe Serafini was the one who actually shot the people, which obviously he was the guy going in there. Scott pled guilty
Starting point is 01:44:12 to a felony charge of being an accessory after the fact of the crime, which is hilarious. because she drove him there. That's beforehand. Long before. Long before. Her sentencing hearing had not been scheduled. Prosecutors said that the accessory charge
Starting point is 01:44:27 could result in the sentence of 16 months to three years. That is a crazy low amount of time that she's got. That is not a lot at all. So the testimony continues with the jury hearing an audio recording of county sheriff's detectives questioning her several days after the shooting. So they were looking at them right away. she's testified that she lied to the detectives telling them she had been with Serafini and Elko looking for a pickup truck for his wife.
Starting point is 01:44:56 I was just trying to help pick out a pickup truck. I was trying to find a new F-150 for it. Wow. You know, I wanted to have the one she wants. Yeah. Dan said, you know, my juices will be on the seat, but that's a totally different scenario. Dan said that we were staying there to look for trucks. That's where we were staying.
Starting point is 01:45:15 that's where we were saying if anyone asked. She testified that she was anxious at the time because she knew she wouldn't be telling the detectives the truth. She said Serafini asked her to add him to her Verizon cell phone service because he was concerned detectives investigating the shooting were looking into his records. Can I be on your bill? Wow.
Starting point is 01:45:40 That's fucking amazing. So the defense attorneys are basically saying, you know, you have to weigh the she's a liar and you know we don't know you can't do any of this shit someone who would fuck her friend's husband good God so they said that Scott carefully looked at the prosecution's
Starting point is 01:45:57 evidence and months later provided an account designed to fill in the weaknesses of the prosecutor's case that's what the defense is saying they said that they argued the prosecution doesn't have any physical evidence that links his client to the crime which they
Starting point is 01:46:12 don't So, yeah, they had a charge with first degree murder at first. They dropped that shit, obviously. She was, by the way, released from jail on her own recognizance with a GPS monitor. Yeah. Wow, she's got her ankle bracelet and she's fine.
Starting point is 01:46:28 She gets to go home. Yeah, they said she could have faced 25 years to life. Oh. And now she's sitting at home with a fucking ankle bracelet on. You can't believe her. She testified that she considered it for months before she spoke to the prosecutor and investigators earlier to tell them about what she knew. So she said the prosecution made no promises.
Starting point is 01:46:52 They just let her talk and let her do her thing. She said she was hoping to give them her story and possibly receive a plea deal. She said her attorney later informed her the pleading guilty to a felony charge could result in a maximum sentence of three years. So Scott said she was told she would only have to serve an additional three months if the judge gave her the maximum him because she sat in jail for a while anyway. So her attorney told her it's going to work out, whatever. She said, I didn't know what my future would hold.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I knew that Dan would be upset. You're telling on him for murder, probably, a little bit. Then June 26th, his wife here testifies in this whole thing. Now she hates him. Well, now she hates him. She said the relationship with her parents with her relationship. her relationship with her parents said was always a little tumultuous. She said she had an up and down relationship with her parents.
Starting point is 01:47:48 She said her mother had a strong personality and that she had heated arguments with her parents about her husband, about her husband and over money, but that they always made up and traveled on vacations together as a family. This sounds over enmeshed or some shit here. But, I mean, you know, now it sucks because they're dead so they're not enmeshed at all. She testified that she was getting along with her parents in the months before the shooting, obviously. Now, that's terrible. So they also say they tell the jury that Serafini convinced Scott to drive him from Nevada and drop him off a few miles from the home.
Starting point is 01:48:28 They said he snuck into the house. They talked her into it here. During cross-examination, Aaron Spor said she was 100% traumatized by losing her parents in such a manner. and also not only that, but by a search warrant served at her home in connection with the shooting and by investigators poking into her private life and searching through her phone records and computers. The whole thing's been a match, she said. You know how many people have seen pictures of my tits now? It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I was just asking those ladies if the dress looked nice. Yeah. This is wild. She also told the jury it's been difficult not being able to have a private conversation with her husband since his arrest. Oh, I'd really like to call him a cunt for ruining my life. Love to yell at him in private. She said that she and her husband had an open marriage sometime including threesomes
Starting point is 01:49:22 with other women. What? She said they would have sex with others separately in a don't ask, don't tell type of arrangement. Holy. What the fuck is going on? Listen. Now everybody knows this. Wow.
Starting point is 01:49:39 So she wasn't apparently mad about... About the hooker or the prostit. The mistress. God damn. Yeah, Samantha. She told the jury some of her, their closest friends knew of the arrangement she had with her husband. Wow.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Including the one that fucked her. Her idea, oh my God. Her idea of marriage was formulated in part by her father cheating on her mother, she said in court. Oh, my God. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. She is like a plumbull.
Starting point is 01:50:09 plug-in therapist thing. Like, your father cheated on your mother. Now you think it's okay for your husband to cheat on you. Like, holy shit. And you don't mind because you're banging the bartender. Or whoever you come across, whatever horse people you come across. Too much. She said her mother would get angry over her father's cheating and hire private investigators to follow
Starting point is 01:50:29 him around. So she didn't want to have that type of relationship with her husband. And obviously he's going to be a cheater because that's who she's attracted to. Because that's who her dad was. And that's also what we all are. We're all a mess and we all just bring everybody, evidently. Well, also, too, a major league baseball player, what do you want? Obviously, he's going to have his dick dipping and everywhere he can.
Starting point is 01:50:49 He's got some hubris and some ego that he needs to stroke. Oh, yeah, stroking something. There's somebody else to do it. Yeah, so they also, Samantha Scott said they had continued to communicate her in Serafini while in custody with jail kites, little messages there, little handwritten notes, where he would offer emotional support
Starting point is 01:51:13 and she would express her devotion to him until she was offered a plea deal and then the devotions. Devotion went a little less. Now the wife here, Aaron, told jurors that her husband told her he was having sex with Scott in November of 2021. And she now knows he wasn't telling her
Starting point is 01:51:31 everything about his relationship with Scott. She said Scott was being deceptive by not telling her about the truth nature of the relationship with her husband. She said, quote, I feel very deceived by her. This, dude, this Aaron needs the most therapy ever. She is still upset with this one about, that's what? I feel betrayed, deceived.
Starting point is 01:51:58 He fucked your friend and shot your dad in the head and your mom. Yeah. Don't just fuck this guy. What are you doing? Don't believe any of these people. No. and he said she said this Why wouldn't she tell me?
Starting point is 01:52:09 She was my friend. She's picking up my kids from school. She's having dinner at my house. She's blowing my husband. She's blowing my husband. She's fucking jerking him off under the table. She said she doesn't feel as deceived by her husband over the affair with Scott. And she still trusts him, quote, 100%.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Oh my word. Fuck my friends. Shoot my parents. 100% trust. And I'd love to talk to you in private. Does she believe that Samantha? The Scott killed everybody as a way to get back at her? What does she believe?
Starting point is 01:52:41 This is insane, man. So she also said she believed Scott was deceptive in court when she testified that Dan confessed to her that he shot her mom in the head and that he threw out a gun, his clothes, and a backpack on their drive back. Dan's wife here, Aaron said she felt it was, quote, creepy that Scott had changed her appearance to look more like Aaron in the five months since her own. released from jail. She said she's single white femaleing me. This is crazy. She's telling my family and trying to take on me. Look like me for Christ's sake. One of Serafini's attorneys asked
Starting point is 01:53:17 Aaron Spore to compare photos of herself and Scott taken outside of court. Spore said Scott seemed to have a similar hair color style along with similar clothes and sunglasses. Spore also testified that Scott before the affair seemed to be attracted to her husband and to want the same kind of life she had. Aaron Spor said, I just think it's odd. She always seemed to be around. She's fucking your husband. That's why. It's not odd. It's just
Starting point is 01:53:43 weird that you're the, wow, okay. The prosecutor said in court that Serafini hated his wife's wealthy parents and told others he was willing to pay 20,000 to have them killed. Now, Aaron said that her parents
Starting point is 01:54:00 forced Serafini after they were married to sign a post-nuptial agreement a year after the marriage. Is that right? That means that he wouldn't get any of his wife's money if the marriage were to end. That was all their idea. The jury was shown transcripts of angry emails and text messages between Serafini and his wife's parents that show a heated ongoing dispute over a $1.3 million loan from his in-laws.
Starting point is 01:54:27 They lent them a $1.3 million to help his wife's horse ranch business. Whoa. The emails and text messages also included heated arguments between Dan's wife and parents. Jesus. So everyone was arguing. Lawsuits between Aaron and her sister, Adrian, alleged money played a role
Starting point is 01:54:47 in the 2021 deadly shooting. On Thursday, this day, Serafini's wife testified that her parents made her younger sister the sole trustee of their parents' estate worth more than $20 million. And Aaron is the one that gets that? No, her sister is the lone trustee, but they said that if their parents died, the sisters would split their inheritance.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Okay. Holy shit. Okay. So, Dan, to be sitting in court and hearing your fucking wife talk about, she trusts you and this one, she's mad at the sister or she's mad at the friend for fucking you. This whole thing is all very personal and embarrassing for everybody involved, especially. especially for Aaron, I would say. She's the most... Because, I mean, he's up for murder charges.
Starting point is 01:55:36 She's not. So, I mean, for her, this is just the embarrassment. I mean, Christ Almighty. You don't exactly feel bad for Dan. I'll say that much. No. But I'll tell you who I do feel bad for. Who's that?
Starting point is 01:55:47 Dan Serafini, owner at DSMP, I don't know what that is, in Nashville, Tennessee. Uh-huh. I don't think so. He was a songwriter also. Oh.
Starting point is 01:56:01 voice finalists, a bunch of people I've never heard of because I don't watch that show. He claims to have written songs for Vanessa Williams, Leonard Skinnerd, the title cut on Skinner's last CD, last of a dying breed, and the Wilson's. He was a producer for new kids on the block. Oh. Marky Mark. The Wilson's. If you're related to someone famous, yeah, like Cardi Wilson. If you're related to someone's famous, he will fucking do.
Starting point is 01:56:31 your album for you. Absolutely. I'll figure it out. Maurice White from Earth, Wind and Fire. Also producer for major labels like CBS, EMI, Manhattan, Capitol, Lyrick Street, wrote songs for Columbia Pictures, Universal Pictures, MCA,
Starting point is 01:56:47 the nutty professor, armed and dangerous, Beethoven's Fourth. Oh, yeah. Co-writer and musical arranger of Brooklyn, a Broadway show, and musical director of Guess Who's Coming to Seder, which would be the Jewish version of guess who's coming to day.
Starting point is 01:57:03 And also Ellen DeGeneres show, Modern Marvels, TMZ, Meet the Wilson's. Guy's got a lot of it. Also, Daniel Seraphini, owner of the traveling epicurean. Holy shit, this guy's in Wappinger's fucking falls in New York. Oh, boy, we can go see him. We're from the same neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:57:22 I don't even know this fucking guy. Weird. He went to the Culinary Institute of America, which is right in high park, so that makes sense. You know who shares your name? You know, you got a name? He's always seen it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:35 And also, Dan Serafini, senior director application development at Banking Center's C-IBC in Oakville, Ontario, Canada. Jesus. July 15, 2025, Dan Serafini found guilty of first-degree murder. Absolutely, he has found guilty. The prosecutors are saying, they were talking about all this. They presented text message evidence on the escalation. One of the text messages sent prior to the attack read, quote,
Starting point is 01:58:06 I'm going to kill them one day. That's not great. That's not great at all. And there we go. That shouldn't lead to any trouble down the road. That should be fine. Oh, man. So that's pretty fucking funny.
Starting point is 01:58:21 He is also convicted of first degree burglary. Yeah. Now, let's find something out here. August 7, 2025. jail love letters revealed between Serafini and Samantha Scott. Yeah? This is fucking fun. Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Major League baseball pitcher Dan Serafini and his mistress would leave each other hidden love notes in jail after being arrested and charged with murder. Samantha Scott read one of those letters in court while testifying against him as part of the deal she made with prosecutors. In the letter Dan wrote, quote, I love you and I think about you so much of every day. crazy as it sounds, I wish we had more court days just so I could see your face. That does sound crazy. As you bury me under the jail of your testimony. I wish I could tell you not to be so scared, but I understand that you are. There's really nothing to be scared of, and it will be over soon.
Starting point is 01:59:16 He then went on to describe what he had planned for himself and Scott once they were released from jail. Oh. Oh, yeah. He said, very optimistic. I'm getting out. First plan is to hit the airport parking lot. Ew. There's a reason for that because Scott explained in her testimony that was a reference to a time when the two had engaged in sexual intercourse and the parking lot at the Reno-Tahoe Airport when going to pick up a car.
Starting point is 01:59:40 You don't get any trashier than fucking in the parking lot of the Reno-Tahoe Airport near a rental car facility. That's trash. In Reno's general. Proper. Reno proper. It's still bad. Oh, that's gross. Serafini wrote about how he planned to profit off his situation at the time.
Starting point is 02:00:02 Two, quote, I'm writing a book right now to help pay for your and my attorney's fees. I'm also hiring you to help me finish it. Oh, great, I got a job already waiting for me when I'm out. Fucking the trucky meadow. That's going to be great. We could fuck over in sparks. So we need to take a couple of road trips to get some facts right, plus photos of certain places. I'm pretty sure there'll be some stops along the highway and the way back, you know, for us to fuck in the car.
Starting point is 02:00:30 When asked about the road trips and stops along the way, Scott said they were a reference to the sexual intercourse the two would engage in at rest stops while making road trips. Oh, God. Jesus, these two are trash. Serafini also encouraged Scott to fantasize daily and told her to keep safe. He said, if anyone fucks with you, I have a long reach from here. I'll take care of it. What are you talking about? You don't have a long reach.
Starting point is 02:00:56 Stop it. Yeah. He wrote, only problem is, my news report is delayed a bit. Looking forward to being with you again soon. Love you, love me. Yeah. He then signed the note,
Starting point is 02:01:08 We will be free soon. I love you and always will. The wolf. That's where the wolf came from. It's not his baseball nickname. He picked it himself. Yeah. When asked why Serafini referred to himself as the wolf in his letter,
Starting point is 02:01:22 Scott said, She didn't know and had never referred to him using that word. He just all of a sudden decided, I'm the wolf. Fuck it. I got a long reach from here because I'm the wolf. Have you seen Pulp Fiction? That's me. That's me.
Starting point is 02:01:38 I'm going to fix it all. Scott explained these notes would be exchanged on days when she and he had court appearances and carefully hidden in the same elevator. Notes would be carefully hidden in the same elevator they would take while being transported. If caught exchanging the letters, they would have likely. been placed in solitary. Interesting. It was shortly after she received this letter that she agreed to testify him against him at trial.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Okay. So the sentencing gets delayed and he's seeking a new trial. This was a week ago. So, yeah, the judge agreed to hear his motions while the sentencing is continued. He also filed for change of attorneys. And, yeah, so August 21st, 19 or 20, 519. Wife of Daniel
Starting point is 02:02:25 Serafini testified he did not kill her dad days after his murder conviction. She also filed for divorce. I didn't do it. This is, yeah, he didn't do it, but I'm divorcing him. So she files for divorce
Starting point is 02:02:37 here one week after the jury convicts him. In her filing, she wrote that she's seeking sole custody of the two sons who are seven and four and is not requesting child support or alimony from him, you know, because he's incarcerated.
Starting point is 02:02:51 She said that she and her husband have an amicable relationship in her divorce complaint, and the divorce filing is notable considering that Aaron stood by him through the whole thing, and then when he gets prosecuted or gets convicted, now she's filing. She denied that Serafini played any role in the shooting and claimed her father's life. She said it wasn't me. Or wasn't him? Wasn't him, which is pretty fucking amazing.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I don't know what to say. Aaron said it was not until Serafini. I guess the two She met him after Aaron was hired to work with Serafini's first wife to help train her horses. So he just trades in a new horse lady
Starting point is 02:03:34 every once in a while. He traded in the first wife. She took half his money because he was fucking somebody. Wow. Then he meets more women through this wife's horse business. This is fucking crazy. He likes horse broads.
Starting point is 02:03:49 I guess so. She just trades them in. Wow. Wow. I don't even know what to say about that. So she said that they were married in 2010, a week after his divorce to his old wife went through. The divorce proceedings in the Serafini case stretched out over three years, which would explain why Aaron's mother was eager to have her new son-in-law sign a post-nuptial agreement that prohibited any money from the trust set up in her daughter's name from going to his first wife or their children.
Starting point is 02:04:19 What the fuck? Serafini's current divorce should go much quicker as Aaron filed as a self-represented litigate and isn't seeking anything. And it's all amicable. So that's how it goes. Adrian Spork petitioned the court requesting $1.3 million in restitution from the brother-in-law for the business. She also filed a civil suit against Serafini, Aaron and Samantha Scott for the death of her. Against her own sister for the wrongful death of her parents. So stay tuned.
Starting point is 02:04:48 he's going to be sentenced, but he's getting at least 25 to life. And she's trying to keep her from getting any of the inheritance at all because she was married to the guy that did this. And she's got to be accusing her of being a part of it, right? I think this is all to, she's lumping her in, I believe, to try
Starting point is 02:05:04 to try to maybe get my, I'm not sure about that, allegedly, allegedly, or whatever the fuck. Who the hell knows, but she might be trying to keep that inheritance to herself. Who knows? He has a Twitter, Dan Seraphine. where there's a picture of him at his bar, I guess. It's an old one.
Starting point is 02:05:23 He's got like a, I'll just show it to you. He's got a Coke and he's presenting it, a Coke with a straw and he's presenting it like it's something that he made. I made a Coke. A lot of tats on that guy. Sure not. Covered in fucking tats. He said baseball was fun, but now the real fun begins home with family and friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:40 I can operate a Coke gun. He also said, I need some baseball stuff for my sports bar. Let's go My so-called baseball friends Could use the help So there's that Can't get enough of this dip shit Well you can get a
Starting point is 02:05:58 A Dan Seraphini For some reason it says its name is Ken Not sure why But Ken Seraphini Fort Wayne 93-94 It's an uncorrected arrow It's an error that's why And it's signed
Starting point is 02:06:14 1195 It's a signed error card Dan Serafini Hardware City Rock Cats Twins 1995 another signed card $8.95 And then in 1994 Dan Serafini upper deck
Starting point is 02:06:32 minor league signed rookie card $45. So insignificant they've fucked up your name on the card and didn't fix it. Didn't even bother. This card I think is autographed out of the factory if I'm not mistaken. It's one of the
Starting point is 02:06:46 those. That's why it's $45. So there you go. There is Dan Serafini. We'll have an update for you on his sentencing when he's done. But I've been waiting for him to just finish up the court case so we can talk about this because it's a wild fucking case. So interesting. There you go, everybody. If you like that show, please tell the world about it.
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Starting point is 02:14:36 Jeremy Renner's last sip of the soda in the town. That is hilarious, because, Because I've never mentioned it nor disgust it with anybody. But that's the most disgusting sip a soda in any movie ever. He's getting shot at by cops. He grabs a soda out of the trash can. Takes the biggest pull you've ever seen from a soda that's not yours. The straw and everything. And then throws it down and Kitsavin continues a battle with the police.
Starting point is 02:15:03 He doesn't care that whatever that's going to give him because he's about to die and he knows it. Well, yeah, I don't think the disease is really good. At that point, he just wants a sip of Coke. Yeah. It's so gross. King Licks. And he certainly got it. He was teaming with it when he got blast in the face.
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