Crime in Sports - The Staircase Romantic - Wayne "Big Money" Simmons - Part 2

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

This week, we finish off this story with Wayne, starting his NFL career, but it doesn't work out quite like he wanted. He's shuffled around the league, even picking up a Super Bowl ring, but always seems to do something to get him on the wrong side of his team, and the law. Most of his legal problems happen at 3 AM. This includes bad driving, a lot of punching, and a horrible accusation, from a young lady, on her graduation night. It all ends with a giant bang, as Wayne's 3 AM problems eventually get the best of him!!   Entertain your teammates, while annoying your coaches, earn a Super Bowl ring, and be accused of a horrible crime, while claiming the whole thing was consenual with Wayne Simmons - Part 2!   Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!   Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman   Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com   Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!!   Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports [e-mail]

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Can't beat at patreon.com slash crime insports. sports. That said, let's do this. All right. Let's go. Wayne Simmons part two. When we left off, there were too many jacks. Too many jacks. Yeah, Jimmy was very confused about Jack Tatum and Jack Lambert. We had a lot of fun about that one. When we left off, Wayne had just signed his contract, a $3 million four-year contract with the Packers. So, I mean, we're going to say it now. Grace. As fuck. This is Grace, man. I mean, he's fucked up. He's done some things, but apparently it doesn't matter because he got drafted in the middle of the first round. Nobody cares.

This is Grace. Now, here we go. September 12, 1993. This is from the Wausau-Wausau-Daly Herald newspaper. Wausau. Wausau. Wausau? Wausau.

Now, this place here, they're talking about Wayne. The first, this is amazing. The first line, Wayne Simmons nickname is, quote, big money. That's what we're calling him. Big money. He said he's going to be facing Randall Cunningham and the Eagles and big money.

And now he's got a chance to earn it by chasing Randall Cunningham around. For $3 million, that's big money. Big money. That's Wayne Big money. So they're talking about how that's going to be a difficult thing. One of the other linebackers says no matter what you do, you've got to contain Randall.

You've always got to consider Randall's scrambling ability. Randall Scramble. And this was toward the end of Randall's scrambling ability. He was always a decent scrambler. But in the beginning, he was like, he was insane. Like, you couldn't tackle a guy. He was like Gumby.

You go to tackle him, he'd like twist into a, I've never seen a tall guy that hard to tackle before. And that was when he was with the Vikings. With the Eagles. With the Eagles? With the Eagles is when he was like a rubber person. Like, it was impossible to tackle. He bounced off of people.

And then he was on the Vikings later. He was on the Vikings later when he was more of a pocket quarterback. There we go. Yeah, that was after, you know. But he was the most athletic, insane quarterback ever in the late 80s. Like, you couldn't, he could very easily be the most mobile quarterback today. And nobody, you know, he would have been the most mobile quarterback in the league if you put him in there today, too. So, yeah, you got to consider Randall's scrambling ability.

One of the coaches says, the linebacker's coach said, I would like to get Wayne a lot of work, not just to get him experience, but to get a player of his caliber out there. Yeah. That's right. He's projected to start at left outside linebacker when training camp opened. And then he had a knee injury and had some arthroscopic surgery. Oh, no. And now he's listed behind George Coontz on the depth chart. They said that, you know, he's progressing, but the veteran has the starting role at the moment. They said, you can expect to see Wayne on the field more, though.

They said that he's making fine progress. He's very physical over the tight end, and his past cover skills are getting back to where they, where they're very effective. I think he's going to be an excellent outside linebacker here. He's got great potential. Big addition to this team. Big old, big money fluff piece right there. But there's an article after that from the Ashkosh Northwestern that says clearing obstacles,

Simmons knows how to handle adversity. Okay. Said he grew up in a fatherless home with a mother who worked two jobs for a family that live paycheck to paycheck. He had to hitchhike more than 20 miles to school every day in Hilton Head. Both of these above hills. He got, yeah, no fucking holes in his shoes, three feet of snow. In Hilton Head.

In Hilton Head, which we know that he didn't. We found out how he got to school, his coaches, and people like that were giving him rides. He wasn't hitchhiking. It was a long way. It was a long way. He made it happen. People, like, volunteered to drive him, though. He wasn't just thumbing it every morning out there, hoping he got to stop him.

school on time. Yeah. And on those nights when he could not get a ride back home with a friend, he would hitchhike the 20 miles again, this time in the dark. Right. Obstacles, Wayne Simmons could write a book on the subject. Yeah. He says, quote, life is a struggle.

Self-imposed. Life is a self-imposed struggle. Life is a struggle. Growing up, it's not just one thing. It's life in general. Yeah, it's punching women. It's just like just hitting them. They make you mad.

You know what I mean? A fucking asshole. If they make you mad, you just got to hit him. And it makes you feel better. He said, he's had it so easy based on how good he is at what he does. And then he just punches people for no reason. That's what I'm saying.

If he wasn't him, if he was a regular guy, a regular sized guy without football ability, then, yeah, his life would have been real hard. He'd have been in the cycle. People did a whole lot to keep this guy kind of above the fray and kind of lifted him up kind of carried him around, so it's a little bit different here. They say that he had a rare taste of the good life in April when he was taken in the first round of the draft. The Packers immediately penciled him in as a starter, blah, blah, blah, he's had his knee problems. And Simmons, though, talking about his teammates here, he says that we all look up to Brian.

We're just filling in for the young man. He's a good man, and hopefully we can just do the job he did. Brian, who? Brian Dawkins? What are you talking about? No. Trying to figure out who's... No, no, he's a linebacker.

So why the fuck? Definitely not him. I think he was in like the fucking ninth grade at that point, probably. Yeah, he's still a baby. He's still a child, though. So they said for some people, Simmons's reputation has been tarnished. He says his critics never bothered to discuss these situations with him. Oh, tell us more about when you punched a woman.

Tell us more about when you made fun of a woman for sucking dick. and then slapped her with a hat for no reason in front of 30 people. He said there have been a lot of accusations put upon me that I don't think are true. And a lot of people just don't know the real Wayne Simmons. That's the problem. They just don't know the real Wayne. He said it's hard. It's frustrating.

But you fight through it. Now I'm ready to get on with my life. That's it. Yeah. Packers believe he's going to be a star of the future. And he says, I came to Green Bay with the attitude to know that every month, Monday when my coaches or teammates watch the film, they can always say Wayne Simmons busted his butt. That's the only goal I have.

Great. But bustin. That's it. My own. Only my own. You know, we'll see. So 1993, he plays in 14 games, starts eight. That's good.

Not bad. He has two interceptions, one sack. Dang. Not terrible. Pretty good. He's doing fine. Pretty decent season. Yeah.

A lot of tackles? Can't be mad at that. tackles 34 total. That's pretty good. That's not bad. I mean, he doesn't have not playing on every down. 1994 Packers are 9 and 7. That is good enough to get them into a wild card.

And they beat the Lions 16 to 12 in the wild card. That's an ugly game. That's an ugly guy. A lot of field goals going on in that bad boy. Boring. Holy shit. Sounds like one touchdown was scored. Yeah.

Yeah. Touchdown in three field goals. That's not good. Then the divisional round against the Cowboys didn't go so well because then the Cowboys went on to lose to the Niners who beat the living shit out of the Chargers in the Super Bowl. So the Cowboys beat them 35 to 9. Oh, God. That's a brutal day. Just put a whoopin on them.

Not bad. They got Edgar Bennett in here now. Oh, Mark Chumara, our buddy there. Hey. Hey, we did an episode on him. Torell Buckley. Oh, they had a, looks like a rookie Mark Brunel on the team there. Oh.

Before they left him one protected and he went to Jacksonville. Yeah, they drafted him. Then he went to Jacksonville. Obviously. A bunch of other places, right? Yeah, yeah. Obviously, you got your Brett Farves and your Reggie White's and your Sterling Sharp and guys like that. Oh, Steve McMichael.

Mungo was on this team. Really? This was his 14th season. Is that Mongo's name? Steve McMichael, yeah. Wow. Yeah, Mungo McMichael. I learned something very.

day. Wrestler. Yeah. He learned a long time ago. Even wrestling, he went by Steve Mungo McMichael. He didn't even. That, okay.

Yeah, that sounds more, that sounds more accurate. Yeah, the old bear star there. So that's interesting. August 25th, 1994. This is from the Island Packet newspaper. Oh, man, this is funny.

Simmons Special to Pack is what it says. X Triple H star, meaning Hilton Head High star. Oh, huh. Top linebacker for Greenbacker. Now he's the top linebacker. Now he's the best one they have.

He didn't even start half the games last year. He started half the games. Now he's the best one. That's all they've got. Wayne Simmons, Hilton Head Island's first professional football player. There we go. Enteres his second season as a member of the Packers with considerably more responsibility on his shoulders

because of a career-ending injury to eight-year veteran Johnny Holland and the loss of free agent Tony Bennett. Remember that was the guy he didn't know his name. Never heard of him. will step up to be the most productive member of their linebacking corps. Most productive, huh? He will be the most productive, which is a pretty bold statement. We said so.

We said so. Simmons himself suffered a hyper-extended knee in a bruised knee cap in a preseason game last week and will likely miss the Packers' first two regular season contests. He's expected back for the Philadelphia game on the 18th. When he returns, Simmons will be the only Packer linebacker slated to play in every defensive formation the Packers have. Wow. All the packages.

Fritz Schumer, the defensive coordinator, said Simmons has shown he can be our most complete linebacker. And he says, Wayne says, it's been a wonderful challenge, but it's also been a difficult preseason for me. There's been so much to learn, not only because we have a new coordinator, but new schemes and because I'm involved in all of them. Oh. Yep.

So they're saying he's just going to be the guy. He's going to be exhausted every Sunday. Oh, yeah. The linebacker coach said we're counting heavily on Wayne's versatility and speed. Oh, putting all your chickens in one basket. In one big Wayne basket. Yeah, eggs. You can carry chickens in a basket, can you?

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. How the fuck else you transport chickens? Put them on little leashes? You put them in a basket and you carry them around. Yeah, they'll going to claw the shit out of your forearm. No, you could count them, though, because they're just chickens. They're all there.

I mean, that's the difference between that and eggs, but still. Yeah, you can count the shit out of them. You can go ahead and count them. You got so many chickens there are. You can bring him in a basket, no problem. So far, this season, he's looked even quicker than he did a year ago. And Wayne says, I don't know if I'm quicker, but I do feel I'm reacting better to what other teams are doing. And that probably makes me look quicker.

If you're, which makes sense in a way. It's quicker. If your brain is thinking quicker because you're more used to the office. offense. You look quicker because you get a better jump on things. You're not necessarily quicker. But you understand things more making you react quicker. Yeah, exactly. I think that's what he's trying to say. I think anyway. Or he's an idiot. One of the two. You pick. It's up to you. But your brain can either be quick or slow, right? And, uh, yeah. So I think they're talking about his body. Like he looks quicker on the field making moves. And he says, I don't know if I'm physically quicker, but I think

I'm just anticipating things better. I think the game slowed down a little bit for me, making me look quicker, I think is basically what he said. He was named all rookie by Pro Football Weekly. I guess one of these weeks too. He said, my goal is to be a third down player you can count on. That means on crucial plays

when we must stop our opponents, I can be counted on as one of the guys who will get the job done. This year, we feel we've got the people to make it all the way to the Super Bowl. And, yeah, Schermer says that he has all the tools to be one of

the league's best outside linebackers. He said he is already as good as anybody I've ever seen in 32 years playing over the tight end. That's Chuck? That is Fritz Schumer saying that. Oh, Fritz. Oh, the D.C., yeah. Yeah.

The best I've ever seen. You've ever seen. Apparently, they never played the Giants ever in the 80s. Any team he coached never played ever saw Lawrence Taylor play. Yeah. He never played against the Steelers or the Raiders. He's never heard of. Any of those.

Never heard of either Jack. He's all jacked off this guy. He's all jacked out. He's all jacked out. He said, now he needs more experience and understanding our defense and knowing his capabilities. So they say, though, here,

this is from December 2nd, 94, as the season progresses. Another article, Simmons losing his season. I say he's losing his season to an injury, even though he's been healthy the last two months. We'll explain here. Is it reagravated? They said that the Packers' top draft pick from last year

has been mostly a special teams player this year. Oh, no. And beginning to strain his relationship with the team. Since returning in early October from a knee injury suffered during the exhibition season, he's been unable to regain his starting spot at left outside linebacker. The reasons have been Bryce Pop's quality play. Pop was a good player for a long time. He's a great player.

As his replacement, in particular, the defense's mostly strong performance in general. Simmons says, I'm not upset about it. I'm just embarrassed to say that they're keeping me on the sidelines to play special teams. Fritz Schumer again, defensive coordinator, said, you'd like to have everybody happy and feel as though things are going well for them. It isn't anything he did. He just got unlucky in terms of injury. We just happen to have been playing very well.

So they're not going to take somebody out when they're playing well, essentially. Especially Bryce Pop. That's he's doing great. And he said it wasn't anything he's. did wrong. It's just that the team was going good and it's been going reasonably good at that position over the long haul so we haven't made any kind of move.

Makes sense. Simmons says, the only thing they told me when I came back was Wayne, we understand you were a starter, then you got hurt, but we're making a business decision. I'm a team player and I'll bust my butt for the guys here, but when I make my decisions, it's going to be a

business decision. In other words, I'm getting the fuck out of here when they let me go. But he's making money. So, I mean, that's fine. He still have to pay him starter money. Yeah. He says, though, his frustration is mounting, and though he's contractually tied to the Packers through 96,

his amicable relationship with the team might be on its last legs here. Yeah? Yeah. He said that he could ask for a trade or try to adjust his contract so it rewards the Packers for playing him more, meaning make it more incentive-laden, you know, based on that. So it's unlikely that the Packers will do either one and probably just, you know, let him sit there and pay him.

Simmons says, because they said that his only leverage would be to hold out on his contract now, and he says that it's a business decision. I'll just leave it at that. It's a business decision. Okay. All right. He says, keeps using their terminology. Yeah.

So this year, he plays in 12 games, only starts one and only has 13 tackles, no picks, no sacks. Sure. He's not doing shit for them, basically. wasted first round draft pick. But March 10th, 1995, the next year coming up here, they're talking about how Packers are going to have some new people next year. Bryce Pop signed with the bills. Oh, yeah. Got a three-year, $7.6 million contract.

Oh, boy. Then they said, we won't look to free agency or the draft to find a starter. This is the head coach, or I'm sorry, the GM. He said, Wayne Simmons is the starter. Definitely. We have one. Yeah. So that's it.

He's going to be in there. And they're also talking about Andre Reisen's going to be meeting with the Packers. Oh, boy. And we've done an Andre Reisen episode, and he played with the Packers. Frozen houses don't burn. That's a good choice. That's a good choice. Like, you know what?

Those icicles will protect my house. He said, when the season's over and things don't straighten out for me, I'm going to be a businessman. I'm going to have to put the pressure on the Packers. Yeah. And they said, well, you don't need to put pressure on us. I said injuries have gotten his way. It's not like he's some flat foot out there. He's done the things you expect a number one pick to do.

That's what the general manager said. So I said, we're, we're not to threaten us. We're wanting to start him. So next year, 95, the Packers are 11 and 5 this year. Oh, that's good. It's getting better. Yeah, this is when Farr started getting the shit together a little bit here. They beat the Falcons 3720 in the wildcar game.

Then they beat the Niners. 27-17 in the divisional game and that was like the that was the big step to overcome was to beat a nineers or a cowboys then they go to the the NFC championship game and lose to the Cowboys who go on to beat the Steelers in the Super Bowl

3827 I was pissed about that I was very pissed about that I hate you can't stand the Cowboys so just mad and I'm so sick of them by then it was like okay we I get it you have superstars great

So tired of watching it Yeah Michael Irvin Deon Sanders Emmett Smith Troy Eggman And every fucking great lineman Ever It's enough already

I'm done with you idiots Just done with you idiots Just done with them At least this year I think we're gonna get a new champion That in the playoffs now I don't think there's I don't think anybody

That's like Ben of Mainstay Is still in I mean it's up for the Niners But whatever Yeah but they never win it So Right Not in you know

They get beat up 40 30 years And they barely won yesterday. So here is a Q&A from the Leader Telegram newspaper, and it says, Fans Ask, Linebacker Wayne Simmons. Okay. So let's find out how he reacts to the public here. What do they ask?

Well, Jack Marquart of Juno, Wisconsin. I didn't know who's a Juno in Wisconsin, the same as Alaska's Juno, did you? Yeah, why would you? No idea. They said, what were your feelings when Bryce Pop came in when you got hurt and kept the starting role? So he said, well, you know, we're a defensive unit and Bryce was one of the main guys. He was playing my backup.

Then when I got hurt, we just had to make an adjustment, which we did with the linebacking staff. He came in and as I thought, he filled in real nice. Yeah. When I got better, he was playing the position at a high level. They just kept him in there. And I thought they made the smart decision. Wow. Talk about it.

Not what you said when it was going on. Yeah. They said, you played for Clemson while Robert Brue. Brooks was catching passes for bitter interstate rival South Carolina. Brooks is a longtime Packer wide receiver. It was Freeman and Brooks forever there. They said, did you have any interesting confrontations with Brooks during your college years? Is it difficult to get along with an ex-game cock as a teammate?

I'm an adult. What are you talking about? They're paying us. He said, me and Brooks played on an all-star team in South Carolina against North Carolina. It's called the Shrine Bowl. I knew of him. I knew him pretty good. You know, he was a Gamecock guy.

The only kind of confrontation I had with him when he kind of split out wide and I had to cover down on him, he came out and went to chop at me. I kind of jumped out of the way. He said, don't worry, big boy, I'm not going to take your knees out from under you. That's the only kind of confrontation I had with him, and that was mighty nice of him to not chop block me.

That's good. So they go on to ask him about defense. of schemes and all that kind of shit, which I don't think anybody here really cares about. So, yeah, they keep asking him about Bryce Pop. He's like, yeah, Bryce is great. And, you know, he just was playing well. So what was I supposed to do? But, you know, I don't know.

He said, I think we have the key elements right now. We love working with each other. He gives all the politically correct answers. This year, he starts all 16 games. All of them. All of them. He has four sacks, zero picks, 91 tackle. That's pretty good.

Not terrible. His job is to tackle. That's it. Yeah, and he's playing linebacker on the left side. His job is to tackle. And he's probably a run stopper is what I'm thinking primarily anyway. So then here's January 12, 1996. The Ashkosh North Western has a headline that says,

Wayne's World. Simmons gives teammates plenty to talk about. What do you think? Good things? I hope so. Probably not. They say everybody, it seems, is talking about Wayne Simmons these days. Everybody except Simmons. He says, I don't have anything to say. I'm not trying to be a pain. I just don't have anything to say. Go talk to the team leaders. Those are the guys to talk to.

All right. We will. And they talk to them here. And middle linebacker Fred Strickland said that was the best game I've ever. I've seen a linebacker have since I've been here. That was in their playoff win. San Francisco. He said, Sean Jones, defense event said, that's what we need. Guys stepping up like that and making plays against the Niners, he had a game high, 12 tackles,

one sack, two passes, defense, and a force fumble. So he was Yeah. He had a big fucking day. The fumble was a big, a huge play in the game, apparently, because he knocked a fumble loose from the fullback, and then the Packer

cornerback picked it up and ran in for the first touchdown of the game. So that's a big. That's a big deal. And Mike Holmgren, the walrus-faced coach, said... The first Andy Reid. Yeah. Andy Reid's father, we think, from... It's possible. He said, he's an emotional leader. He's our football... He's an emotional leader on our football team, and he showed up Saturday. He made that big hit early that caused that fumble. And they said that he escaped Bryce Pop Shadow, finally. That's not what the coach said. That's what newspaper said.

You know, they said, man, he's did so much. They're basically, he's the greatest player who ever lived. Really? At this point. All of his coaches, he just said, I just go out and play. I'm still a nobody. That's how I see it. There you go.

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In Wisconsin or back home? This is for breach of peace and for failing to stop for police. Oh, boy. Not wonderful here. Where is this? I'm not sure where this is. They say when police responded to a noise complaint coming from a house occupied by Simmons and another man, Simmons refused to answer the door. Finally, he and his friend emerged from the residence, walked right past the police and climbed into a vehicle to leave.

When one officer approached the driver's side to order them to stop, the other officer stood behind the vehicle to prevent them from backing out. They said, but the subject still disregarded him and continued to go in reverse toward him at an accelerated rate of speed. Both myself and Sergeant Toman got in our vehicle and tried blue lighting the situation or the subjects to no avail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they just ran. Yeah, they took off. So that is from, by the way, a book called Pros and Cons, which has a bunch of good stuff on that. Now, 1996, the Packers, I'll leave the obvious out of what we just read. Yeah.

That was not on purpose. That's just happened to be what happened here. but yeah, 1996 Green Bay Packers roster here. 13 and 3. Yeah. This is their big year. They have a buy week. They beat the shit out of the Niners, 3514.

Then they beat the hell out of the Panthers, 30 to 13 in the NFC championship game. All the way to the Super Bowl against the New England Patriots. There you go. Drew Bledsoe at the helm, and they win 35 to 21. That is the pinnacle of the game. the Packers there. Yeah, big deal there. I forgot they had Don Beebe on that team. They got him from the Bulls, from the Bills. He finally got to win a Super Bowl. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Good for you. Is he maybe the only one from that team? Seems like it. All the rest of them stuck around. Didn't

Andre Reid go somewhere else at the end of his career? Falcons? No, I don't remember. I think he might have stayed till the end. Oh, Andre Reisen got a ring here too. Oh, really? I mean, coming from the Falcons and Browns, you think you'll never going to get a ring. So that's pretty Good. August 16th, 1996, preseason, and he's hurt again. Yeah. Injuries, injuries, injuries, apparently. He re-injured his knee. He's all fucked up.

He doesn't do well in the preseason in terms of injuries here. They also say that Vikings Lee, this is from September 27th, 1996, Vikings Lee takes exception to Simmons' body slam tackle. Oh. Remember Amp Lee? Remember that guy? I do remember that name. Yeah.

Yeah, AMP is a hard name to forget. He's the running back for the Vikings here. And he's complaining that he basically picked him up and slammed him on the fucking ground. And Lee said, I'm sending the film into the league. And Simmons said, if he's going to whine about that, tell him to grow up and get a life. Grow up. That's hilarious. Mike Holmgren said, I know how it looked.

But if you study the film, Wayne tackled, and he was kind of spinning him around. and Amp had a hold of his arm. Amp was holding on to Wayne's arm, and it didn't look good, but it really wasn't as bad as it appeared, really. That's all. He said Eugene Robinson, the safety, said he was just serving notice. That's what linebackers do. And when he threw him down, I don't think it was questionably late.

I think it was a very good, aggressive play. Throw him down, boom, and then you've served notice. Hey, man, it's going to be a long day if you run this way. Okay, he said about Wayne, he's real tenacious. He'll bite you right in the eye. I've never heard that phrase before. I think it's ass. Bite your ass.

Even if he beat your nose, I never heard of anyone biting someone's eye. How would you get in there? I think as he started to say the saying, he realized that bite you right in the ass is not a thing to say. Then he doubles down. He said he'll bite you right in the eye. He will.

He'll bite you right in the eye. He repeated it. He meant it. I honestly think humans are made with recessed eyes. so people can't bite them out. I think that's part of it. Animals and people, it's harder to bite them out. The other fun part about football is that you're wearing a fucking helmet.

You can't bite somebody. Very difficult. Jesus Christ. So apparently he's got a lot going on here, Wayne. He gives Packers hard hits and punchlines, this headline says. He's got jokes, Jimmy. Oh, he's got the jokes. He's got jokes.

No, no, it's not. He has jokes, and now he is a punchline to us. The bag's not on him, but it is for us. That's right. Fritz Schumer said, he continually mocks and mimics me. He continually yells that I'm getting the signals in too late to him, even in practice. He continually says that we're working him too hard. He continually says that I'm putting him in a bad place to make plays.

All of those things he continually says. And my response to him is, just shut up and play, Wayne. Do your job. Quit your bitching. Yeah. They said this is certainly must signal a strange relationship, yet another example of how respect and obedience have deteriorated, right? Actually, no.

Shermer cannot resist a smile when he talks about the former Clemson Tiger. He appreciates the relaxing effect that his ragtime linebacker has on the team. Ragtime, is he playing trumpet or something? What are we talking about? What is that? What a weird thing to say? They said, you know, even Lombardi, The Lord of Discipline understood that every locker room needs a fearless gesture.

Max McGee played that role for the Packers. Max McGee was a crazy person. Yeah? He was the guy who was shit-faced during Super Bowl 1 and still won the MVP. He caught a bunch of fucking passes and he had like the best day of his life. And he was hammered, didn't get back to the hotel like eight in the morning, drank all night, barely slept, still drunk. And he had a great game. he's like the David Wells of football

Evidently that's what Beast mode fucking Marshawn Lynch says he drank whiskey before every single game and on the sidelines too Oh that was his way of like girding his loins Was that? I guess he said it just made him tougher

I don't know This guy thought he wasn't going to play much in the game He thought he was back up in the game Oh he just got I'm having a good day He did so he got shit face didn't come home to 8 o'clock And then was at the you know Park at 11 o'clock in the morning or whatever

and just he just was hammered still and didn't think he was playing. And they kept throwing him the fucking ball. He's like, stop. God, damn. Stop throwing me the ball. So that's what happened. He was a crazy guy.

He went to Air Force, I believe, because he was on the, like, Air Force's, like, not their football team. He was on, like, their inter-squad football team. They had a whole other, Hunter Thompson talked about it. Anyway, they said when Lombardi began his back-to-basics training camp by holding up a pigskin and intoning solemnly, gentlemen, this is a football.

It was McGee who raised his hand and said, Coach, could you slow down a little? You're going a little too fast for me. He's that guy. He's slow down all this. Can he just take it down a notch? Wayne Simmons is the Max McGee of the modern-day Packers, and his teammates consider his humor as crucial to their success

as the soaring spiritual exhortations of defensive end, or Reggie White. So Reggie White's preaching and he's making jokes. That's good. I couldn't stand that preaching. I don't give a fuck if you're Reggie White or anything. Shut the fuck up. Shut up.

Keep Jesus in your fucking locker. Leave me out of it. I want to hear that shit. Put him in your pocket. I don't care. You don't care. You're huge. Play the fucking day.

Show them up your ass for all I care. Don't tell me about it. Bite him in the eye. Yeah, bite his eyes out. Fellow linebacker Bernardo Harris said, Wayne keeps the whole team loose. He tells stories. He imitates people.

I think he could be a stand-up comedian. Oh, yeah. The funniest guy in the job site's always a real funny guy. That's funny. They've actually done studies on that, like comedic studies. And the job site, like the workplace funny guy, quote unquote, big giant air quotes, who will like say the dumb comment quick. Those guys are not funny at all.

Like if you sit them down with a piece of paper, they cannot be. They're not funny. Like literally they're like that's the least funny guy. So scientifically it's been proven that asshole who always has that stupid fucking dumb shit, dad joke comment. The hardly working guy? Not funny. Not funny. He is not funny.

Scientifically. They did a huge study. Who financed that? It was actually a university did a big study on it. One of them was some university was fed up thinking about a guy at the water cooler. Maybe being funny. Like, you know what? Fuck that guy.

Al is an asshole. I'm tired of his dumb jokes. Fuck him. Objectively not funny. Here's my hypothesis. Al is not funny. Let's see if we can scientifically prove this. It's a book called, there's a book called Ha, where they talk about all these different tests they did.

Wow. It's, yeah, it's about the psychology and science of what actually makes people laugh. and it's very interesting shit. So they said that he said that Wayne just starts telling a story and we're all on the floor laughing. He has a nickname for everyone. He calls Reggie White the chosen one

and constantly rags on him for his weight and raspy voice and the gospel music he insists on playing in the boom box before games. Holy shit, I would have killed Reggie White. Gospel music while we're getting ready to play a game. Let's have an intense spiritual. That'll make me want to fucking take people's heads off.

What are we doing? The invention of Bluetooth and headsets has saved a lot of lives, I think. What is it, 95? Play some fucking Wu-Tang. Let's get jacked up. What are we doing here? There's so much better shit. Protect your neck, bitches, what's up?

Something. I don't know anything. There's so much better shit. Yeah. Play rage against the machine. You got that. In 95, so much was a lot. So much.

So much. Everything was angry. It's fucking, you could have done anything. So he calls, He calls Fritz Schumer the Rattler because he's white-haired and he says that he has a tooth that protrudes. So it's like a snake tooth. The defensive line coach, Larry Brooks, they said when he tries to assert himself, Simmons makes fun of him and suddenly acts like a nerd pretending to be hip.

All right, guys, come on. His teammates gather in what they call Wayne's Corner, the far left corner of the locker room and listen to him tell stories, an art he learned from his uncle, Herman Young, a carpenter, back home in the low-bottom area of South Carolina near Hilton Head. It's not so much the tale itself. It's the rhythmic, deliciously vivid way in which he tells it. Eugene Robinson said he'll start a story slowly and keep it going for 20 minutes.

He said also there's always a little lesson in Wayne Simmons stories. He said, you might pound on him for a while, but soon he'll be pounding back, usually with humor. All righty. So I don't know either. So they said, this game means fun, Fritz Schumer says. And I think I've never seen a football player compete better or practice better or come to meetings better with a frown on his face than with a smile on his face. Wayne brings us that smile.

All right. Great. Also, here's another article. Packer parent shatters son's tough guy image. Let's soften Wayne up. He's just a great guy. Mom's going to say some nice shit. Oh, yeah, yeah.

She said, here's one description hardly ever heard. This is, quote, Wayne is not as hard as you think he is. He's a mama's boy. Anything that goes wrong, he can't handle it. He'll try to handle it. But if he can't, he'll come to mom. That's what mom says, I believe. He's a mama's boy.

That's what Dorothy says. Great. She's Wayne's mom. And she said about the Super Bowl, I think Wayne's excited, but he's holding it inside. He's not going to let anyone see how excited he is until he gets that Super Bowl ring. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

She said that, you know, she knows her son and he's going to do great. She said he's the same as he always was, just a bigger, older version. Okay. She said, they never talk about football. She said, if I ask him a question about the game or one of the players, he'll answer me. But just to sit down and talk about it, he won't do that. I guess he figures it's his job. He doesn't want to talk about it.

Okay. Yeah, and she says he's very appreciative of everything that she's done for him. She says, my son shows me that in so many ways. He's always doing something for me. One thing he did was buy her a restaurant called Dots Diner. She's Dorothy. Gave her a job? Gave her a restaurant outside of Hardyville on South Carolina 46 just before the turnoff to Savannah.

He also remodeled her home. She said, I'm so. proud of Wayne to the point where I can't speak anymore. He has become a man in his own right. I'm just glad I had a part in it. That's actually cool because rather than giving somebody some money, you give him a business and they can make their own money. She knows how to do it. So let her make her money. I think that's great.

But making your mom work kind of sucks. Yeah, but I think that's great though, because he doesn't know if he's going to be able to support him for the rest of his life. Three million dollars isn't enough to live forever. That's what I mean. So if you buy her a business, then she can keep making money. That's great. So 16 games started that year, one interception, two and a half sacks, 66 tackles. So his numbers are down, two forced fumbles.

And Super Bowl, they went to the Super Bowl. He had started all three games, only had one sack, 15 tackles, and 12 of those came in the San Francisco game. Wow. That's in the whole playoffs. So he didn't really do much outside of that. March 2nd, 1997. He still celebrating the Super Bowl.

It's still fresh. He's celebrating. so much that he drinks a little bit too much and gets arrested. In Wisconsin? How much you got to drink? Good job, asshole. No, this is in Tampa, I believe. Oh, Jesus.

He's arrested and charged with driving under the influence, obviously, of alcohol. He's an unrestricted free agent, so this is not really great. Not good. Coming off a Super Bowl win, having a huge game in the playoffs, driving his price up, and now he's being an idiot. So he is charged here. He stopped at 3.38. am again you know unless you're on the way to an early shift at the bakery nothing good

gonna come from that they said his breath alcohol test showed he was at 0.17 percent which is more than double the legal limit that's good and strong yeah oh it was still 0.10 back then in south carolina so not quite the double the legal limit it's 0.8 now so he is uh that's the DUI, so he's charged there, and he asks for a jury trial. Yeah. He wants a trial, damn it. Apparently, he was stopped after a trooper observed his vehicle change lanes on Pope Avenue without signaling.

Although he had only stopped the vehicle to give the driver a warning, he only stopped to say signal, but then he smelled booze. And he failed to field sobriety test and was taken to the sheriff's office and given a blood alcohol and now it's point one seven and now he's going to jail so he posted a three hundred and seventy six dollar bond which was much for him we really treated DUI no big deal it's south carolina too I mean people it's very common for those rednecks to drive with beers between their legs especially down there yeah like just the low bottom I can't imagine it's yeah I mean how often did I don't know if they still have it but New Orleans had drive-thru margarita stands you can't

have that. That's insane. Literally open container. Texas, I don't think, I think you're allowed to have an open container in Texas, right? Pretty sure. No way. Pretty sure you're allowed to have open container in Texas. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. In the truck? Absolutely. I don't know if you're

allowed to drink, but your passenger can drink. I'm pretty sure. 99% sure. So, and I think you were allowed to drink as long as you weren't drunk up until a certain year. Up until a certain amount? Like 2012, probably. or something, who knows.

That's crazy. Wayne goes to trial here, goes to the jury, and they find him guilty after 96 minutes of deliberations. Got him. He's guilty. He has a suspended driver's license now, and so six months of driver's license suspension, and fine $200 plus court costs of $176.

Okay. So the Assistant General Counsel said it was unfortunate for Wayne Simmons, but the state has a responsibility to protect its drivers. True. There we go. So they had evidence and all that kind of thing. They said, who Wayne Simmons is had nothing to do with it, meaning the fact that he had to be taken to trial, which, no, he had a point one seven. That's what happens.

Apparently, they find out some more info here. He, when, when the, before he was stopped by the trooper, he had been at a local bar. left the bar about 2.15 to return home. Then he drove his range rover to a bar and grill to grab a bite to eat. Then he was stopped by the cop. So this is an hour and a half after he stopped drinking and while he just ate a whole bunch. And he's still at a point seven. And that was after they took him to the station.

So that wasn't even on the road. So that's put him in. Are we sure he didn't drink at the fucking bar and grill? Probably did, right? I don't know. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I don't think, I don't know if they even sold alcohol, but that seems like you were fucked up when you left that bar.

You're lucky they got you now. Yeah, he told the jury, I would never get into an automobile and drive drunk. I have too much to lose and too much at stake. Okay, but you did that day. You did it. You did it. You did it. This is fucking stupid here.

They showed a video of Simmons undergoing various field sobriety tests, and they said that after the test, he believed Simmons was drunk. He said the best evidence in a DUI case is personal observation. We know it when we see it. Mitchell saw it, talking about the cop. And also, they said that the jurors, the defense lawyers told the jurors that the video, or I'm sorry, that the video was conclusive proof that he wasn't drunk. That's what the defense said. Look at him.

They said, they're falling that shit. They said he was tested along an uneven grade in a parking lot where Mitchell pulled a over. You're a professional athlete. You're an NFL linebacker. You're not a 76 year old lady with a bad hip going, hey God, can we get on flat ground and let me take my shoes? You're a professional athlete.

Yeah, but if we're a cop, let's fucking slam dunk this and not give him an opportunity to say the ground was uneven. True, but I think a professional athlete should be able to walk straight on slightly uneven ground and we're probably okay. Probably be able to do backflips on it. I would hope so.

The defense attorney showed the jurors 18 different photographs, they say, proved that Simmons was the line that he was made to walk during the tests was uneven. They said he walked the line better than I could, the lawyer said, a drunk man couldn't do that. He had a point one seven in his fucking blood. That's all. Just keep showing that. What difference does it make? Drunk.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't care what he did. He's drunk, period. May 3rd, 1997. Packers and Simmons are talking again. Oh. Yeah, they said at first, two weeks ago, the general manager had said that the door was closed to resigning Simmons, but now he says, maybe.

He says he's expressed a desire to play here, so we're keeping it open if we can do it economically. They said that it's believed that Simmons is asking for about $2 million a year. So we'll see how that goes. They said the Packers are in no position to offer him that, though, economically. Oh. So that's not going to happen. They said Simmons' value on the free agent market has been affected by his arrest for driving under the influence and a much publicized run-in with coaches during a visit to the Houston Oilers. I guess he didn't get along with the Houston Oilers staff.

Simmons was found guilty of the drunk driving offense. So the linebackers, though, or the Packers, the line packers, I almost said. Linebacker and Packers. Packers signed this linebacker to a one-year contract. May 22nd, 97. So not what he wants. He wants to play real well and then go somewhere else and get a big contract. That's the goal, yeah.

Try not to get arrested. Fritz Schumer said he's an extremely physical player. He brings a level of play that we need. He's a special player. So they believe the contract is between 1.2 and 1.3 million plus incentives. Okay. So 1997 Packers, they are going to go. 13 and 3 again

beat the bucks in the divisional round of the playoffs NFC championship game they beat the 49ers again and then go on to lose the Super Bowl to John Elway finally getting a ring John Alway's helicopter. That was it. That was the big one there. Finally got it when he was all, when he was past

his prime but still John Elway. And Steve Atwater fucking really laying it down that game. Nobody talks about that enough. He knocked out two fucking players. He was great. He was great. one hit. He was a monster that came. And he says he's glad to be back, Wayne

is on the Packers. He said, there's 30 teams out there. I didn't want everyone to like me. I just needed one team to like me. Here. He said that that's, he said they didn't, he only really talked to Mike Holmgren. He said, everything's fine between him and Holmgren,

who he accused of having a personal vendetta against him. He said, but now he's not bitter. He said, that's all negotiations and contracts. I don't hold any grudges and I don't think they hold any grudges. We fought. We came to terms. That's all that's all said and done. So he's back with the Packers. One linebacker said, I saw Wayne huffing and puffing a little, but it's good to have him back. It really is. And again, there's some misinformation floating around, Mike Holmgren says, regarding Wayne Simmons and me. I'm glad he's back. He's a very valuable part of the team.

Sure. I said, I think Wayne's probably the meanest player in the league. Besides that guy, Steve Wisniewski, was I believe that's an all. offensive linemen for the Raiders, if I'm not sure. I remember correctly. I think he went to the Titans after? That sounds about right. Leroy Butler, the safety, said, I mean, Wayne's probably the nastiest player I've ever been around. We would have missed

that because I'm not like that. Reggie's not like that. And Santana Dotson's not like that. Oh, wow. No. First Santana, huh? Yeah. Reggie tries to convert you after he knocks you down. Yeah, yeah. He'll just lay his 310 pounds on you and start telling you about Jesus until you

fucking... You can't go anywhere. So you'll lose it. Yeah. That's how he says, that's how I do it. He'd be a great missionary for that. He just tackle people and lay on top of him and go, let me tell you about Jesus. Now, here's the good news. Simmons only got one other offer, and that was from Cincinnati for 1.6 million.

A little more money, but you have to play in Cincinnati, which nobody wants to play. Nobody wanted to play at that field for that team, for that shit owner in that egg-smelling city. They're the cheapest team in the league by far. So no good. Now, July 25th, 1997, he's got some problems. The Packers might have wished they didn't have him at this point. Let's see. A grand jury will decide whether Green Bay Packers linebacker Wayne Simmons

will be charged with sexually assaulting an 18-year-old on her high school graduation night. What? Wayne. How old is he? Wayne with he is 27. 27 years old. You shouldn't be anywhere near an 18 year old. On graduation night.

Oh my God. A woman told police that on May 31st she was assaulted by Simmons at about what time you think, Jimmy. 3 a.m. 3 a.m. exactly. Go home, everybody. Go home. Why is she out at 3 a.m? That's one question.

It's graduation night. I'm not blaming her. No. That's graduation night She should be partying Yeah but she's too young to drink Yeah Yeah I don't know if this is

If he's there they gotta have booze Yeah This was in the stairwell inside the zoo An 18 and older nightclub There you go Why is he at an 18 and older nightclub? It's a fuck 18 year old girls I think That's why yeah

That's the answer Yeah, it's the only reason you go there They're more naive Yeah Yeah you go to a regular nightclub You know those some of those chicks and like divorced and shit, you know, you get an 18-year-old. She was in high school three days ago.

Think about that. Yesterday. This is her graduation night. Jesus. So the grand jury will meet. They said the case will be presented to the grand jury for a review of all the aspects of the case. Yeah. And, yeah, they said there wouldn't give any more details at this point.

They said the grand jury will decide if criminal charges should be filed. Simmons had He had attended the graduation Why? At Hilton Head High These people who I don't care if it's your alma mater It's high school

You know when the last time I went to my high school Was when I graduated When I didn't graduate my high school That's what I think The last day of high school That's it Never went back again

Because I don't go there Because what's the fucking Why would I want to be there? That's it There's no reason for me to be there Either that, and then I started going back to when I was taking my children there. That's it. That's when I started going back.

Not my high school, but another high school. Yeah. He went to a high school, well, he went to the high school graduation because he graduated from there. And then he went to the party. Nine years ago? The after party from. So weird. What is this?

They said he had attended the graduation from 7 p.m. to 9.30 p.m. And they said, oh, he was there to retire his football jersey. They were retiring his jersey. This is big night. You retire your jersey in fucking 18-year-old. The police said that they have no indication that Simmons knew this young lady before they allegedly met at the nightclub. They don't even think they met there. But let's find out from the pros and cons books, a book here, a little more details.

Here we go. May 30th, 1997, Hilton Head, South Carolina. It was 7 p.m. when graduation ceremonies got underway at Hilton Head High School. 27-year-old Wayne Simmons, a 1988 graduate of Hilton, head had been invited back to his alma mater to deliver a commencement address and have his football jersey retired. Few high school graduations have a reigning Super Bowl champion deliver a message to the grads. That's true. And he's the first player to play too, the first guy from there. The high school commencement speech. Jesus. Wow. Following a post-graduation run in with Simmons,

graduating senior, we won't, they don't have her name because she's whatever. Jane Doe was hardly feeling privileged to be among the few who did. When the ceremonies ended, she and her friend, doesn't matter. Jane Doe, Jane Doe, number four, joined a small group of graduates who drove to nearby Savannah, Georgia to celebrate. After arriving in Savannah, the two young ladies split off from the rest of the group, which went to get something to eat. Instead, Jane Doe number one, met up with another girlfriend, Jane Doe number three.

who lived in Savannah, and they ended up linking up with this, Jane Doe number three's boyfriend, John Doe number one. Yeah. The four of them, Jane's 1 through 3 and John 1, the four of them went to the zoo in 18 and over club. The boyfriend, or I'm sorry, Jane Doe number two, I believe,

knew the bouncer who ushered the four of them in for free and, you know, stamped, gave him a stamp, and said, zoo and all that kind of shit. Once inside, Johnson and her boyfriend, they're calling her, that's the name they're giving the, Jane Doe? No, Jane Doe, two, her friend. So Jane Doe, too, once inside,

Jane Doe two and her boyfriend went off on their own. The Bouncer, a cousin to the club's owner, George Murphy, proudly invited Jane Doe One and Jane Doe two, down to a private lounge below the dance floor to meet the owner and a famous NFL player who was hanging out there. God.

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but I guess here in Savannah and not Hilton had, so you wouldn't know. So, she had, they said besides, she hardly expected to find Simmons,

who had just spoken at her graduation, hanging out in a club for 18 to 19 year olds. Right. However, according to the statement that Jane Doe 1

would later give to police, she recognized Simmons once she was introduced to him. He said, oh, yeah, or she said, oh, yeah, you were at my graduation. And he said, where? Uh-huh.

How many graduations you've been to tonight, Wayne? Why are you going? Yeah. What fucking when do you think? The one you just left, you fucking ogre? You dumb shit fucking moron. You, I heard you were at my graduation. Oh, you went to that high school too?

That's the question. That's the, oh, you're Hilton Head. Congrats. Yeah. He said, she said, where he said, she said on Hilton Head. And he said, oh, yeah. Like, oh, I remember. remember that? Oh, yeah.

That thing I did all this evening, yeah. And she said, like, they retired your jersey, right? And he said, yeah, they did. Well, congratulations on your graduation. She said, thanks. Okay. Apparently, after addressing

the grads when he did this commencement speech, Simmons, whose driver's license was revoked, obviously, because of his drunk driving conviction, asked his friend Elliot Mitchell to drive him to Savannah. I'm surprised. He's listening to that. Most of these guys just keep driving. A divorced father of four, Mitchell was not interested in hanging out with the young crowd at the zoo. A friend since Simmons' childhood,

however, Mitchell went along with Simmons' wishes and ultimately agreed to drive him to Savannah. In tight with the zoo's owner, George Murphy, Simmons got himself and Mitchell in without paying the cover charge. Mitchell later told authorities that he and Simmons were ushered to a private downstairs lounge to join Murphy. According to Mitchell, Murphy repeatedly paraded women over to Simmons, lifted up some of the women's skirts and grabbed their butts. Yikes. Mitchell told the authorities, I didn't know what the hell was going on. So that's what was going on.

Mitchell told the authorities also that he recalled two young girls, Jane Doe's one and two, coming over to meet Simmons. Minutes after the bouncer introduced the girls to Murphy and Simmons, the bouncer brought Jane Doe's one and two back upstairs to the dance floor. He then asked the girls if they were interested in accompanying him to another nearby dance club called The Rave. In her police statement, Jane Doe 1 said that while en route to the rave, she and Scott discovered that Simmons, Murphy, and Mitchell were in a car following the Bouncers' vehicle.

So, according to Jane Doe 1, she and Jane Doe 2 did not like the crowd and music at the rave and asked to be taken back to the zoo. When they attempted to get in the Bouncer's vehicle, however, Jane Doe 1 said they were told the car was full and they'd have to ride back in Mitchell's car, which is where Wayne is. That's Wayne's friend. Jane Doe 1 and 2 told the authorities that they protested, having only just met the men an hour earlier. Nonetheless, they ultimately climbed into the back seat together and rode without incident back to the zoo. Okay, gain some trust now.

When Murphy dropped them off at the zoo parking lot, the club was closed. The bouncer and Benson insisted the girls come inside and. play pool before heading back to Hilton Head. According to Jane Doe 2, she and Jane Doe 1 sat on opposite ends of the room watching Johnson and her boyfriend shoot pool. Jane Doe 2 also indicated that Simmons and some other guys were in the room as well. At one point, Jane Doe 2 saw Wayne Simmons approach Jane Doe 1 and engage in conversation, then went back to the bathroom.

When she returned, both Simmons and Jane Doe 1, were gone. Jane Doe 1 told police that, well, she waited in the lounge for Scott to come out of the bathroom. Simmons took her in a stairwell and raped her. Didn't grope her, didn't feel her up,

didn't slap her leg with his dick. He raped her. That's what she's saying. The following account is based on Jensen's formal statements to police and her subsequent statement to prosecutors. Jane Doe. Jane Doe. That's her fake name they gave her in the book.

It's not a real name. All right. The book, pros and cons gave her a fake name. Jane Doe. Jensen's Jane Doe. It's not a real name. Okay. So they said, and I quote here,

Simmons approached Jane Doe 1 and persuaded her to walk with him toward a stairwell off to the side of the room. George asked Wayne if he needed the key. Jane Doe, one, told authorities. And Wayne said, yes, I need the keys. He started dragging me. I kept telling them Simmons and George, I have to go talk to Emily and tell him.

her where I'm at. I was trying to do, uh, trying anything to get out of it. And I told them, I said, I have to talk to Emily. I can't leave without telling Emily where I'm going first. So Jane Doe one described the stairwell that Simmons brought her into as poorly lit and littered with cardboard boxes and debris. You know, a back thing of a club. Yeah. The walls were covered in spray painted graffiti and vomit was visible on the floor in places. Oh, that's incredibly romantic. Romantic as shit. That is amazing. I'm telling you. That's a rape room. You put some candles up and this is where you take your wife for your anniversary.

This is lovely. This is fucking horrifying. Yeah. That's a torture closet. This is like an Eastern European fucking weird side room or something. It's gross. So they said that police photographs taken of the stairwell confirmed the description. She said he started kissing on me and I told him to stop and I was trying my best to push him away and he kind of had me.

He had his arms wrapped around. where I couldn't move my arms and I told him to stop. I didn't want to do this. This is wrong. You can't do this. He said, why? Why can't you do this? Well, because I'm a child.

Well, she's 18. She's legally. If she wants to do it, she can do it. Sure, sure, sure. She just doesn't want to do it. So that's why you can't do it. This is awful. Yeah, all other factors out the window.

She didn't want to. That's why. She said she wants to talk to Emily. Let her go talk to Emily. So she told him she said that she was raised in a church family and that she was still a virgin. And although she had boyfriend, she never had sex with any of them. Simmons said, well, I'm not every other guy you've ever had. She said he just kept on.

So I started squirming away from him on the floor. Ugh, with the vomit. She said that Wayne had her positioned on the third step of the cement staircase. What is this? The fucking Dr. Melford. She sopranos rape? This is horrifying. This is horrifying.

She said he was kind of laying his upper part of his body on my shoulders and my back was going to the stairs and he pulled my underwear off and unzipped his pants. She said, I guess he pulled his penis out and he was still kissing on me and I was telling him to stop. She said that she described what happened next. I was telling him how important it was. I've always been raised to. I couldn't. I was saving it for marriage. I didn't want to.

Okay, here's an excerpt from a transcript of the detective's interview with Jane Doe 1 here. How do you know he pulled his penis out with his hand? She said, I saw him unzip his pants and pull it out, and then he laid right back on top of me. Okay, what happened after he got his penis out? She said he laid back on top of me, started kissing on me, telling me how important his career was and that I couldn't tell anyone. Oh, my God. He just gave her the playbook of how to ruin him. Oh, Jesus Christ.

While he's assaulting her. But he's saying that as he's going to do this. I'm going to do some horrific fucking medieval nasty repugnant shit right now. Don't ruin it. Don't tell anyone. They said, and he was touching you at this time, and she said, uh-huh. And they said, where? she said he had lifted his

bird finger or maybe his index finger what's your bird finger middle finger okay oh bird giving the bird okay or maybe it was his index why did I say middle thing I never heard that before that term before bird finger no it's not that's a terrible term for that that's a birdie James

no that's that's assinine okay I won't I won't hold her responsible for you you suck she's a rape victim it's fine or maybe it was his index finger and he lifted and rubbed me on my vagina and I squirmed away from him because it hurt because he was pressing down into me. I told him to stop. I think he tried to penetrate me there and he noticed that he couldn't and that's why he wanted to move up the steps.

They said, how do you know he tried to penetrate you there? She said, I felt it on the side of my leg. He was pushing my leg out and I felt what I assume would be the head of his penis pressing into me. In her subsequent interview with prosecutor, she detailed the difficulty he was having, trying to have intercourse with her. She said, quote,

he'd start licking his fingers, and I remember from then on just feeling something. It was like he was pushing down on me, then he was trying to get inside of me, my vagina, and it just, I was trying my best to squirm, but when you have 300 pounds on top of you, I guess he realized that the position he had me in

wasn't working for him. He asked me to move, so I said, let me up and I'll move. Oh, boy. She said that when he let her up, she grabbed her underwear and tried to dart for the door. She recalled him saying, Unt, Unt, Unt.

U-N-T, U-N-T. Uh-uh. Yeah, uh-uh, yeah. I already pulled off, I already pulled those off for a reason, is what he said. I said, no, I'm going back downstairs to find Emily, and he said, no, you're not.

And he grabbed me and walked me back up the stairs and laid me down. That's when he moved the brick. I guess it was in his way. He laid me down on the cement. He laid on top of me and went back inside. I guess he ejaculated before, I guess he ejaculated before,

quote, when we were on the steps because it was all over the back of my dress. I remember when I stood up and put my underwear back on it, it felt wet. When she recalled this part of the incident to the detective, he asked for clarification.

he said, was his penis still out? She said, yes. And they said, and she said, at that time, it was. They said, was he still erect? And she said, and she said, uh-huh. They said, okay, have you felt the wet spot on your dress yet? And she said, yeah, I felt at the minute I stood up after he had, when he turned me around and I stood up and tried to walk off. They said, okay, what happened after that? She said, he laid me down. That's when I started telling him stop. and he said, no, I only need a few more minutes. So then she said, and then he pulled my dress up. He pulled my underwear down to my ankles, and he kind of, I guess, like, bent my legs up and spread him out.

They said, and that's when I guess he penetrated me. He started moving a lot. When it was over, she said he got up, zipped his pants, and told me his phone number. Oh, boy. And said he would call me and we'll talk. talk about it. What the fuck are you talking about?

Near the end of the, she, he's a menace, near the end of her interview with the detectives, she was asked if Simmons hit her or slapped her. She said, he not so much threatened me, but just pretty much kept saying, you know, my status against your status, you're nothing.

They said, were there other sexual acts? Did you have to touch his private part? She said, he tried to put it in my face one time, and I told him, no. When he had my shoulders, he was right there in my face and I move my head away. I don't know if he was making that that's what he wanted me to do

or not. So her friends drove her to the hospital after the incident. She went right to the hospital. Wow. Good for her. She was examined. That's how you can tell too that she she's not used to this. You know what I mean? A lot too. And she said, oh my God, she freaked out.

This is a lot like she probably hasn't been abused her whole life. You know what I mean? She's probably had a nice life. She was examined by the doctor who she recounted the incident again. She then told him that she was a virgin at the time of the attack. The doctor found redness in the vaginal area and that she had a tear at the 6 o'clock position in the vaginal opening. A diagram was drawn describing the exact location of the injury and then placed in the case file. Bruising was also detected in the mid-back area and on her neck injuries which were photographed by the police, the stairs.

according to a report filled out at the hospital, the doctor advised that these injuries are consistent with the story as well, as that all lines up. Following the exam, she was given a prescription for the morning after pill, so she doesn't get pregnant, and advised to have a pregnancy test performed two weeks from the day to the incident, introduced to a rape crisis counselor and interviewed by police investigator. All of her clothing was placed in evidence bags to be turned over to the crime,

for inspection. Sounds like everybody's doing the right thing here. Yeah, yeah. So far. They got white shoes, a blue half slip, white panties, a bra, an ankle length yellow print dress, and two hair scrunchies, all placed in evidence bags. The following day, those items, along with swabs taken from Jensen's vagina and a white envelope marked suspected semen from body, were shipped via UPS. I got the semen. Really? Brown delivers semen. Here you go.

Take our jizz. Here's your semen, sir. Run this jiz down the block. You got it. He said, boy, when they gave me that doorless car and those shorts, I dreamed one day, I deliver a packet of criminal jizz to somebody. That sounds great. Can I drop off rape jizz, please?

Anybody got some criminal jizz? Is this the criminal jiz slot? Does it go here? Suspecting criminal jizz. Jesus Christ. to the Georgia Bureau of Investigations. Oh, I guess it was in Georgia. I thought it was in Tampa for some reason.

In the early, in the early of Savannah, Georgia's by... Yeah. Yeah, Tampa was the other thing. I'm sorry. In the early stage of the investigation, Savannah police telephoned Simmons friend Elliot Mitchell, the one who drove him

to get his version of what happened that night. Quote, it's all bullshit, he insisted. When informed that Simmons had been accused of rape, he maintained that any sex that occurred was consensual. How do you know? What? They were in a room alone together, and I'm sure that it was consensual, though. They weren't even in a room.

Yeah. They weren't a stairwell. There was corroboration that some kind of sexual act had occurred. In addition to the items received from the hospital, the crime lab also received three vials of Simmons blood, which they got with a warrant. according to a forensic scientist's science's official report dated November 18th 1997 chemical examination

of the panties and dress reveal the presence of seminal fluid DNA tests performed on the semen taken from the panties and dress were compared to the DNA testing performed on Simmons the conclusion no more than one in 10 billion

individuals will exhibit the DNA pattern that Wayne says. One in no other person on the planet. More people than there are on the planet. Uh-oh. So guess what? It's Wayne Jizz. We know that.

Yeah. They said the report went on to conclude with a reasonable scientific certainty. It can be concluded that the DNA is fucking Wayne's. Unless Wayne Simmons has an identical twin. Then it could be here. Right, right, right. Yeah.

That's it, though. It's the only other possible thing. It's him. At the direction of his lawyer, Simmons refuses to give a statement to police, nor did he submit to police questioning. However, his close friend, Elliot Mitchell, was questioned.

Mitchell revealed that he asked Simmons whether he had intercourse with Jane Doe 1. According to Mitchell, Simmons replied, No, I tried but couldn't get it in. She jacked me off and gave me a blowjob. Oh, boy. So Mitchell, it's nice that 27-year-olds are still giving their notes to each other, too.

Mitchell told authorities that Simmons, after learning he had been accused of rape, later called him on the phone and repeated his innocence. No, I didn't rape her, Simmons said, according to Mitchell. Did you see any scratches on me? And I sure didn't bruise her. Did anyone hear screaming? According to the investigative summary of the interview, quote, Simmons also stated that he tried to put it in, but he couldn't because she was too small.

He said he got on top a couple times, but couldn't get it in. The police were left with, originally left with the he-sost. said she said scenario. Identical facts were important to the, or incidental facts were important to the investigation. Thus, Simmons' innocence or insistence that he had difficulty penetrating Jensen supported Jane Doe One's claims that she was a virgin, as did the doctor's findings that she suffered a tear in her vagina. Right.

An injury also consistent with someone who's never engaged in intercourse previously. While none of this proves that she was raped, she could have conceded. her status as a virgin was crucial to show how she might be perceived in front of a jury. Yeah. You're going to go, does this girl who's a nice girl decide on graduation night? I'm going to fuck a stranger in a stairwell, even though I want to be a virgin until marriage. It's kind of a very large one. That's what I mean.

That is a stretch. It's a stretch. Well, that would be two stretches, but it's still, it's bad. It should be tearing. There's going to be tearing. They said that this was so crucial that Simmons hired a private investigator to dig up dirt on her. What the fuck, man?

To find out if she was really a virgin or not. Oh, boy. They found no dirt and found no evidence that she had any sexual history whatsoever. A private investigator couldn't find evidence of sexual history. The girl is fucking not fucking people, man. Also, informing the investigation was the location of the incident.

If it happened in a stairwell as opposed to a hotel room, a dorm or a bedroom, it's different. It just said, a teenage girl who went through high school as a virgin agree to have sex for the first time in a dingy debris filled, vomit-stained, concrete stairwell. Is that what she's want to do? No.

They said, and once there, would she willfully lie bare back on the cement steps while a man twice her size and whom she'd never met previously, lay on top of her repeatedly trying to penetrate her and tearing her vagina? It's unlikely. As prosecutors assessed whether to bring the case to a grand jury to seek an indict. statement, Simmons had something else working against him, his own fucking history. Because he's an idiot. They dig up June 25, 1988, arrested for assault and battery after striking a girl because she was ignoring him, quote, unquote. Jesus Christ.

That's when the mother drove her over and he started to curse at them and shoved her again. June 23rd, 91, when he cited for assault from beating up the Domino's Pizza Man, the immigrant fucking foreign exchange student. And then September of 92 when he's arrested on assault and battery for striking that young lady. You know, there's a lot here. He's kind of a piece of shit. Yeah. There's a lot here, obviously.

So, yeah, Calder, you sucked his dick, dick sucker, that whole thing. Also, April 11, 1993, it's salt and battery after his three friends tried to get in the bar without access. and he called him white trash and a pussy. And then said, we're coming back to kick every white motherfucker's ass. They have all of that. And then there was a fight and bad things happened. March 11th, 96, arrested for breach and breach of the peace and failing to stop for the officer.

We know about that one. You know, he's got quite the record compared to her. Right. She literally. All right episode one compared to nice girl. Nice church girl. That's it. That's never fucked anybody.

So that's bad. So October 8th, 1997, the Packers trade him to Kansas City. Really? Yep. He went from being the greatest player in the world to trade it for a sixth round pick, which is nothing. They wanted to get Seth Joyner on the field because they had gotten Seth Joyner from the Eagles and probably the Cardinals at that point. Wasn't he on the Cardinals before he was on the Eagles Cardinals? Yeah, because he followed Buddy Ryan when he went back.

So, yeah, he's gone. They said that he regards Joyner as a better player than Simmons. That's what general manager Ron Wolf said. That's it. They said, we wanted to give him an opportunity to play more, and we honestly didn't think the situation would work out as well if we had people splitting time here. Wayne says, I'm not here to demean anything that Wayne said.

That's Wolf said. I'm not here to demean anything that Wayne Simmons did. Certainly, that's an outstanding record, an outstanding achievement. But there comes a time, and that comes for each and every one of us. At some point, someone's going to come in and be a little better than you are, and you're going to be replaced. That's life.

Yeah. There's nothing to do with the fact that he is being accused of rape and DUI and everything else. They said, is that of anything to do with it? And Ron Wolf said, absolutely not. If that would have played into it, we wouldn't have brought him back to begin with. Oh. You just said your player's been accused of horrible violence. rape is that why you don't want him back and rather than to just go it's part of it obviously

character's important us we want he just says hell no hell no i don't care how many girls he raped set joiners just better holy shit set joiner just plays the the four three run defense a little better that's all that's crazy uh so that's what they keep saying though they said he had leadership on the team and all of that kind of shit um so 1997 Kansas City Chiefs are 13 and 3. You're all Marty Schottenheimer. This is one of the many Marty Schottenheimer teams. Many Marty Schottenheimer is hard to say.

Yeah, it is. Many Marty Schottenheimer teams that go 13 and 3 and lose in the first round of the playoffs. This is very common for that. And also he had a big stretch with the Chargers where he'd go like 10 and 6 and miss the playoffs. And he was livid. And he would swear to these people. the first round of the playoffs. And he would swear at these players.

He was so pissed. So mad. But obviously it's his fault because everyone else is winning. Yeah. They lose 1410 to the Broncos in the opening round of the playoffs there, the divisional round. This is, God, 37-year-old Marcus Allen on this team. Yeah. Still playing in a 97.

Jesus. Is that Montana? Shit, no. He's gone by now. Rich Gannon. Wow. Rich Gannon started nine of the games. Did they have Bono?

Was it Steve Bono the other guy? Elvis Gerbach. There it is. Elvis Gerbach. Yep. Elvis Gerbach. That's who came in after, huh? They had Joe Horn before he went to the Saints.

Before he went to the Saints. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. James Hastie, the old X jet. A bunch of different. Pretty good team. Did they have, who was the running back that year? Oh, Jesus Christ. Let me look here.

97? 97. running back. Greg Hill started all 16 games. I remember Greg Hill. Mediocre. Decent, mediocre. Post-Christian Acoye, Barry Word. Yeah, and right before

that other guy. The fuck is his name. You went crazy. We got Michael Dean Perry. They got Derek Thomas still on the team. He's still alive. Pete Steyanovich, the kicker there. Remember that? Okay. January 9th,

1998, a county grand jury has decided there is not enough evidence for criminal charges against Wade Simmons. Wow. What? I don't get, okay. You've got his, I guess you can't prove the, the proof is that she was raped and you have to prove that. That's what a sexual contact.

I think that's what a trial's for. If there's physical evidence that sexual contact happened and one party says it was rape, don't you have a trial to figure out if that's a rape or not? I guess that's what the grand jury is the pre-deal for that. Right. And the grand jury couldn't get charges. I don't know. We still, in 97, we still had this like thing where we got a full explanation here.

Well, we don't believe anybody. No, no. Here's the full explanation from the pros and cons book. In early January of 1998, prosecutor David Locke took his case. against Simmons to a grand jury seeking to have Simmons indicted for kidnapping, rape, and sexual battery. If he were

at the trial stage, Locke would have to convince jurors beyond a reasonable doubt that Simmons committed these crimes. But you've got to get the grand jury to indict him first, and there he only needs to prove probable cause, more evidence for than against. And he had it

at his disposal, he had all the police complaints previously filed against Simmons. They said, we generally would make a grand jury aware of it. Then they said arrest records can be properly brought before the grand jury. It's not like a trial where you can't introduce prior bad acts.

The witness list of those scheduled to testify the jury before the grand jury was the detective, the alleged victim, and the Elliot Mitchell, the buddy that drove him there. Grand jurors also had access to videotaped copies of numerous police

interviews with individuals connected to the case. Jane Doe One was the star witness, an attractive petite girl. She told 18 grand jurors what happened in the stairwell at the zoo. Her status as a virgin on the night of the incident went unchallenged. And on January 7, 1998, the grand jury reached its verdict on whether or not there was probable cause. No, wrote the jury for a person on the form. Now, why not? The prosecutor said in an interview, I think it basically had to do with the victim's credibility. Dude, what do you have to do? What are we talking about?

What do you have to do? How do they... Who do you have to be? How did they impeach her credibility? Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Like, who the fuck would they believe? What are we talking about at the time? They said the victim's statement

conflicted with most other witnesses about what happened immediately prior to the sexual assault. According to police reports, the zoo's owner and Simmons friend, George Murphy, told investigators while they were all at the rave that Jane Dull once said, she would fuck Wayne for $2 million.

He also told police that, quote, the girl was all over, Wayne, especially on the ride back from the rave. And this guy obviously has no reason to lie. I'm sure he wouldn't mind it at all if his friend was convicted of rape inside his bar that is now an unsafe place for your 18-year-olds to go. Might well be.

That could be. 18 and over bar to have had an 18-year-old raped in there. By this guy. Well, I'm not, I don't know, I'm just saying. While her friend disputed that Jane Doe 1 was all over Simmons in the car, she did confirm that Jane Doe 1 told her she told her she wanted to sleep with Wayne. Wanting to fuck somebody and wanting to fuck somebody in a stairwell with puk on the floor are different. She might have thought maybe if he takes me out, we have a nice night and go back to a nice hotel room or something, that'd be fun. Maybe that's how she'd like to lose a virginity.

That's fine. Maybe I'd like to date him a while and then have sex with him one day. Yeah. Who cares? Just saying you want to have sex doesn't mean right now. No shit. Now, she thought the comment was a joke, this second, Jane Doe 2. But then Jane Doe 3's boyfriend, John Doe 1, told the cops that he witnessed Jane Doe 1 telling Wayne, quote, I want to fuck your brains out.

Oh, come on. He said that he saw Jane Doe One sitting on a sofa with Wayne and that she was touching all over him. She, uh, even Jane Doe, too, claimed she too heard him say that, or heard her say that she would fuck Simmons for $2 million. And there was one witness vaguely questioned, uh, one more witness that questions her credibility. Uh, Jane Doe One denies these charges, both to investigators and the grand jury. She said, I'm not saying she wasn't the, Prosecutor said, I'm not saying she wasn't telling the truth. It's just that it would be hard to get 12 jurors to convict the defendant of rape,

knowing the trial standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. It gets to whether you believe the victim consented or not. It's different from Joe Q. Citizen because the interaction between the victim and the football player was controlled by the fact that he was a football player and that some of the things that she alleged to have said to do with the fact that he was a football player. A lot of the victim's actions could be tainted by the fact of his. his status, which is so if you're important enough, that's such a weird thing. He offered a second more technical explanation for why the grand jury may have declined to indict him.

Quote, the physical evidence didn't prove that he actually penetrated her vagina with his penis, which is proved for rape, which is required for rape for the state. Furthermore, no semen was found inside her vagina. The physical evidence supports that there was some penetration. though, with tearing and everything. But it also supports Simmons' story to his friend that he couldn't enter. Spirm was found on

her panties, not inside of her. I'm not saying that he didn't penetrate her. I'm just saying that some of the story is supported by physical evidence. So, at the time the book had gone to press, Jane Doe One had made no attempt to sue Wayne or elicit a financial settlement

from him, nor is she attempted to sell her story for pay. In fact, she never as much told her story to anyone other than the doctor, the hospital, the authorities, and the grand jury. I don't know. That sounds like someone who got raped to me. Usually when people fake it, it's for attention and money. What is her motivation?

She's not suing civilly. She's just going to court about it. There's no motivation. She's doing the right thing. Yeah. She's not going for money. She's not going for status. She's not going for attention.

She's not trying to get on a reality show. It's 1997. It makes no sense. So they said, still apparently it was her credibility that could not. not passed the test. Wow. They said in Kansas City, Simmons played a crucial role in the chief's defense as the team went on to post

the AFC's best record in 97. Although Simmons declined to be interviewed for this book, his business manager spoke to the authors about the rape allegations. His business manager, Tom Gardo, hair turning silver as he speaks, said Wayne had a DUI and in college he got in a couple of fights, but that's it. This particular crime, the rape. allegation, he was exonerated.

He ended up having a situation. He knows better than to get himself in a situation where he would be lured into a compromising position with a female in a place like that when both of them had been drinking. She was drinking?

She lowered him into the stairway? She lowered him in the stairway now. Wow. And he didn't, now they're like, he didn't even have sex with her. He knows better. This is crazy. But he's not any different than a lot of other guys. He's a highly emotional kind of person, like a lot of ball players. You don't become a

professional football player without a high level of testosterone running through your body. What the fuck does that mean? What does that mean? You have to rape. It makes you real horny. Real horny. So when the author's called Chiefs President Carl Peterson, he declined to discuss what he knew of Simmons past. The team spokesman, Jim Carr, took the unusual. usual step of denying the authors access to the publicly available team photographs of Simmons and Barnett. He said, I'm a PR guy. Why would I want to help put our guys in a negative light? I don't see any good for the chiefs that can come out of telling these stories. Well, good. Glad we're

telling it then, Dickhead. That guy is all silver. Everybody's silver. I don't see anything good from talking about this. Really? Nope, nothing good could happen. Not for us anyway. And that's all that matters. So, yeah, he plays all right this year. That's fine. February 24th, 1998, minor, just speeding. No big deal. Over, over five and less than 20. That's not a big deal. This isn't Hilton Head again here. So that's over. That's fine. Every time he goes home, he gets in trouble. He gets in trouble. The problem is the speeding, that's not as big of an issue. The issue is when they pull him over, not only was he speeding, but he's also drunk as well, allegedly. So DUI or DWI alcohol-related also he gets that day.

So he's doing great. Well, I mean, it's certainly something. Anytime you get him in a car, he's doing something bad. That's one of those things. 1998 chiefs are seven and nine. No playoffs, no nothing. Shit, they do nothing here. Jesus, again, Elvis Gurb.

But that's still third place because the Raiders. Wait, what year is this? Fourth place. That's fourth place, actually. That's last place. That's not great. Yep, back then, that's what that would be. So not wonderful here.

August 27, 1998, Wayne is happy in Kansas City, and the chiefs are happy with Wayne. Really? Big article talking about how they love him and he loves them. And, you know, that all the place, Players loved him in Green Bay, but none of the coaches liked him. The Chiefs refer to the trade they got as our Blue Light Special.

Oh, we got a K-Mart deal. They got a bargain, a K-Mart deal. Simmons said, I'm sorry, this is the assistant personnel director for the Chiefs, said, I can't think of a team in the NFL who made a better deal last year than the one we did when we sent a low draft choice to the Packers for Simmons. Since he has arrived, Wayne has provided as much leadership as anyone around. around here. His presence has been a help not only on the field but in the locker room

as well. Okay. And he says he sincerely appreciates the vote of confidence he's received from the Chiefs, which included an upward restructuring of his salary to $7.15 million over three years. Holy shit. He's going to get very well paid. They renegotiated

his contract up because they didn't want to lose. Wow. That is awesome. Wayne said, if you have a job to do every day and the people you work under, if they appreciate you, I think you're going to work that much harder, aren't you? That's the way it is here in Kansas City. This is a team I enjoy very much, and I'm going to work hard to get my second Super Bowl ring right here.

All right. Good luck here. October 15, 1998, Wayne Simmons here, says, quote, this is just a random quote in the newspaper. When I line up across from you, I will destroy you. I will crush you. I will jizz all over your dress. I will stretch you.

I will stretch you out. So, yeah, that's what he does. November 16th, 1998, he's waived. Oh. Goes from being their favorite guy in the world. Negotiated higher pay for him. It's fucking waived. Yeah, he is waived after a loss to the rival Broncos on Monday night

in which Simmons and Derek. Thomas, who is a Hall of Famer, were called for a total of five personal fouls on the Broncos final touchdown drive. Five personal fouls? On one drive. That's roughing the passer, that's face masks, that's five of them. They lost 30 to seven, so they were getting the shit kicked out of them. They were taking it out on players.

And they're not going to wave Derek Thomas. No. Because, you know, he's one of the best outside linebackers of all time. They said after being summoned from his Lakewood home to Arrowhead Stadium, Simmons left an appointment with his personal stylist. Later, he was told by team officials he would be waived. Whoops. Simmons denied to reporters that he'd been released. It's just been waived.

Well, we'll see how that goes here. November 20th, 1998, because you're placed on waivers, and if you go through the waiver wire without being claimed, then you're a free agent. He is claimed by Buffalo. Oh. Yeah, Wade Phillips, who hasn't even met him yet, is already defending him. So this is hilarious, the coach Wade Phillips. Yeah. When asked if he had any concerns that a guy like Wayne might disrupt the bill's chemistry,

Phillips became irritated and said, I don't like a comment like a guy like Wayne. He's one of our players. He's a Buffalo bill now. And I expect him to be like everyone else. It's all rapists here. It's all we have. We think he's a good player. That's why we went after him.

checked into everything. We researched everything to our satisfaction, and we think he can help us this year. Okay. That's all you researched, how much he could help you. It didn't matter, the rest of it. Ninety-eight Buffalo, 10 and six, losing in the wild card to the Dolphins 2417. Yeah. So that is not good. There, this Buffalo team, trying to figure out who is here. Was this the Doug Flute? Yeah, Doug Flutty started 13 games. It has to be Doug Flutty, right? Doug Flutty start in 13 games. games. You got guys like that. Who else was in there?

Oh, Rob Johnson was the other quarterback. That's right. He was fucking terrible. Jesus Christ. Yeah, looking here. All right. Not bad. Eric Molds.

I remember him, wide receiver. Bruce Smith's still on the team. Yeah. Darmint Thomas is long gone. They have a lot of Smiths here. Thurman still there. Is he really?

Is he really? In 98? He's still there. Wow. In his 10th year. He only started, or he only played in 14 games and started three that year. though, so he wasn't the guy anymore. There was Kenneth Davis for a while,

and then they had, who the hell was that other running back that came in there for Thurman? Antoine Smith was the starter. There you go. He was the guy starting. November 20th, 1998, he says he was a scapegoat for Kansas City's troubles. Oh, really?

Yep, he said, that's the problem. I'm happy to have a job with Buffalo, but he said it's bullshit. Apparently, the coach said, Schottenheimer of the chiefs, said that Simmons was released because his play had declined and not specifically due to Monday night's personal foul incident on Denver's Bubby Brister that earned him a $7,500 fine. God, Bobby Brister sucks. Face masks, that was the worst quarterback Denver had. Jesus, he was terrible.

Brian Greasy was pretty fucking bad too. Brian Greasy was a step better than Brister, though. Brister was so bad. Yeah. At least Brister could throw the fucking ball down the field, though. Brister, I think, won six games. I couldn't take him. God, he was bad.

Oh, they beat the Chiefs in this game. Oh, this is a Monday night game. Yeah, yeah. He said, this is Simmons, I think my past had a significant part in using me as a scapegoat. My play speaks for itself, and I know I'm not perfect,

but I know I wasn't the only one who held the team back. I just got blamed for it. I'm just glad to be working now. Yeah, and they also say, the 28-year-old's character has come into question recently after the release of a book

called pros and cons, the criminals who play in the NFL. Twelve pages in the book are devoted to Simmons. Wow. And that's an overload, huh? That's a lot. Simmons says there's been some accusations out there, and I know they're false. Some things have happened at school that have been blown out of proportion. I'm not perfect, but I wouldn't cause anybody any harm.

Right. About his DUI here. What is that? of the May of 97 one. I'm sorry, I was trying to read that. It was small. He said, I heard something about the book. Does it kill me?

The sexual assault wasn't even proven. I wasn't arrested for anything. It was all accusations. So one of the bill's linebackers said, Wayne's a hell of a guy, and what I hear about him shocks me because you never see it in him. He goes on to say with some guys,

you might be able to believe it, but not with Wayne. He's a real good guy and was a star with Green Bay. Everybody loved him. That's scary. If you can't even see that this man, that's called a sociopath usually. Yeah, he's real good in the locker room and then goes out there and does other shit. Wade Phillips, the coach of the bills, said, I don't know that he has any more problems than anyone else.

It's almost like he's the one to blame for what's going on in Kansas City, and I don't think that's the case at all. So he is in the second year of a $3 million contract, so that's what the bill's picked up. Schottenheimer said the decision regarding Wayne was performance driven. There were a number of other factors, but it was clear that he was not playing at the level he exhibited last season. This was not a snap decision. They thought he sucked. So he's a bill now.

Here he is. February 12th, 1999, he is released by the bills. Bills don't want him anymore either. Nope. They release him and wide receiver Quinn early. And they're gone. So that's that. June 9, 1999, the Green Bay Packers haven't ruled out,

trying to re-sign Wayne Simmons as a backup linebacker and are considering pursuing Lawrence Phillips as a backup running back. Oh, don't do that. Fuck it. Let's bring them both in. Let's bring episode number fucking two in or four or whatever it was. He's so bad. From four to four-94. Let's bring them all in there.

You can get a lot of letters from camp, though. Oh, you're going to get finally that music gets going here. The Packers traded. They said Simmons has a lot of respect for new coach Ray Rhodes and general manager Ron Wolfe. That's who, what Simmons Business Advisor said, Wayne's problem was with Holmgren, not with Wolf. Oh.

So now that Holmgren's gone, now you got it. So August 15th, 1999, Simmons is going to sit out this season. See the step back and take a breather. It's not that nobody wants him. He's just, you know, he's arrest. I need to take some time off. He's going to take some time off here.

A source close to Simmons here said that he received feelers from several teams who wasn't pleased with the offers. Yeah. So they said that here's an article from November 1999 saying last year the Buffalo Bills fell in love with Wayne Simmons, another troubled soul who was waived by the Kansas City Chiefs during the season, in part because he was a bad citizen. The bill signed him, angered many of their fans by doing so, then got nothing in return from Simmons, who was a non-productive player.

Signed him, piss everybody off, and he doesn't even do anything. October 20th, 2000, here we go. Ex-Chief's linebacker prepares another play for nightclub. He wants to buy a nightclub. Don't do that. Perfect. Then he'll never get in trouble again. All his problems are around booze and fighting and aggression.

Yep. So they say NIMBY alert is the headline here. Not in my backyard. That suburb speak for not in my backyard. It generally applies to homeowners battling unexpected zoning changes, but former chiefs player Wayne Simmons is all too familiar with the term. He's been courting NIMBYs ever since he began his efforts to reopen the former 39 on Maine nightclub as a restaurant and bar to be called 50-50 on Maine.

Net result, Simmons' planned summer opening was delayed. Now he's back. He's applied for the liquor license and hopes to open by early December. one of his critics is the nearby St. Paul's Episcopal Church and School. They said the type of business and liquor license proposed at 3947 Maine would be detrimental influence to this corridor of Midtown. Rector Robert E. Wood wrote to Kansas City Liquor Control Summer during last summer. We were well aware of the problems such establishments have caused in the Westport area. difficulties law enforcement has had in controlling situations there.

Simmons said he's now assured neighbors that as property owner himself, he'd never do anything to jeopardize the neighborhood. So everything's on the right path. As for Westport's youthful crowds, we're going to have people 25 and older in here, he explains. We're not going to deal with kids anyway. How do you keep it to 20? You can't say someone can't come in if they're 21 to 25.

That's not legal. And what does that even mean? I don't know. Deal with kids anyway. It's so weird. St. Paul's remains unconvinced. Yeah, no shit. They said if he sticks to his occupancy of about 260 and a 1.30 a.m. closing time, I don't see a problem with it.

That's what the Kansas City's top police officer said there. I mean, if he follows the law, it's fine. They said Westport's crowd woes are based on the proliferation of far larger, mostly nightclub venues and the younger clientele they attract. A bar and grills a different thing. As far as public safety concerns are, at this point, I don't see anything to worry about with this club. That's what the police officer said. So here we go. Here's an article from December 26th of that year.

How odd that liquor control head, Eldon Owdsley, places the odds of former chief star Wayne Simmons finally getting his 50-50 on Maine nightclub open at 50-50. How about that? He puts his odds at 50-50. Simmons has been courting still dissenting neighbors like the St. Paul's Episcopal Church. I don't know why you have to have every neighbor's permission to open up a business in fucking America. You know what? You take your Jesus somewhere else if you don't like it.

It's a free fucking country. Guess what? I'll open my shit. If you don't like it, go that way and fucking tell people lies. What the fuck do I care? Who cares? Yeah. Go beg people for fucking money for nothing somewhere else.

You fucking goddamn, fucking drain on goddamn people's incomes. Yeah. Sorry. Any of life ruiners. You non-fucking, you non-tax paying. Yeah. Non-contributing. Yeah.

Non-product selling, but money-taking motherfucker. Provide a service for something or somebody. I know that a lot of churches I know people are going to say Churches provide this and that and this and that Yes and they do it at tax free And they fuck your kids too So I don't want to hear about it

How about that? I'd say I don't want people around here Because maybe people take their kids around here I don't want them by that church Because they keep fucking kids How about that? The fucking Catholic church is going to fucking talk shit about We don't want undesirables in the area

Okay, let's talk, motherfucker You're the undesirable Let's find out where your priest have been transferred from You know? It's fine that shit out. Sorry, that just pisses me off. In the tradition of elections everywhere, they said Simmons' quest to gain the needed votes from the surrounding business owners within a 250-foot radius has come down to a photo finish.

This is during the 2000 elections. So they said, sort of like Florida. I don't like predictions, but they're now within one vote of obtaining a majority. It's so stupid, man. January 7th, 2001, he is arrested for assault. Oh? So that's not good. Who's he salting now?

We'll find out something, I believe, on that. But he also here, he gets his liquor license five days later. He did get it. He's arrested for a salt, then he gets his liquor license. Now you can have a liquor license. I think he just got the last vote to go his way. That's all it was. So they said, as far as I know, the only unresolved issue is part.

and they're working on that. It's getting so close. We counted 189 spots available and we need 50. Uh-huh. So they said they hope the bar will be open in time to host a Super Bowl party. They said, so if we divide that by two and share it with the bar next door, that still puts us well over 50 parking spots. Okay. March 18, 2002, the sign on the door at Midtown Nightclub 50-50 on Maine reads, sorry temporarily closed due to water damage, which would seem to explain the recent closing of former chief star Wayne Simmons Bar and Restaurant near West Point in Maine, or maybe not.

They said the liquor board, head of the liquor board says their liquor license renewal is being reviewed and has not been approved yet. They didn't turn in their renewal on time. If they're late turning it in, it's standard that it has to be reviewed. So he fucked himself over. So they said the ETA on when the bar might reopen, they said, I don't know how long it might take. So who knows how long it might take?

We don't know. August 23rd, 2002. Here we go. All right. He is in Independence, Missouri. Yeah. Around the Kansas City area where he lives here. Apparently, he is driving.

Here he lives. in Lee's summit and was speeding and weaving in his green Mercedes through traffic at 2.45 a.m. He certainly got the idea of what nice cars are. He knows in the suburb of independence. The car rolls over several times, flips and rolls and lands in a ditch. The engine of the car catches on fire. Uh-oh. Witnesses try to pull Simmons out but couldn't get his seatbelt off.

Oh no. Firefighters arrived, put out the fire, and pulled Simmons out. He was transported to the hospital and pronounced dead. Get the fuck out of you. Fucking dead. Dead. What the fuck. Yep.

No one else was in the car. One car accident. Refused to learn a lesson. Refuses. Three in the morning. Dude, if this guy just went home at midnight, his whole life would be different. His whole entire fucking life would have been different. Every time.

just went home at midnight. Done. No rape charges, no assault charges, no DUIs, no killing yourself in the car. No, nothing. Nothing. The Chief's defense end, Eric Hicks, said it's such a shock. Wayne was so energetic and tough. He was a very intense guy and I think one of the best linebackers in the country.

He had a good career. It's really sad. Is that not the way Derek Thomas died? I mean, apart from the alcohol and rolling a car and didn't he die in a car? A car accident, too? I thought he died in a car accident. Yeah. That's what I thought.

That's crazy. He died in one car accident. They ended up doing the autopsy, his blood alcohol level, 0.19. Again. Again. He's got a baseline that he stays at. Yeah. That's where he like, it's his fucked up.

Yeah. He likes to be. He's fucked up. And, yep, it was on I-70 near Independence. And they said that he was driving more than a hundred miles an hour and weaving in traffic. Dude, went a hundred weaving while you're shit-faced. You deserve it. You're an asshole.

You're going to kill somebody else. I'm glad he killed himself and not somebody else, honestly. It could have been way worse. Yeah. If you're shit-faced driving 100 weaving through traffic, I do not feel bad if I'm getting a one car accident and die. I go, thank God you didn't kill anybody else. Good.

Fuck you. It's shocking that you did die, to be honest. Yes, it is. It's only because he caught on fire, I think, probably. Yeah, yeah. Right. So that is a lot. No alcohol was found inside his car,

but they said several witnesses saw Simmons drinking heavily in the hours before the accident. He died of blunt head and neck injuries. What the fuck? So he's probably unconscious. That's why he died. That's fucking terrible. You know what I mean?

The flames probably killed him because he was unconscious. Possibly. Or he got smashed in the head. He couldn't get out. No one could get his seatbelt off. Yeah. So can't get enough of Wayne Simmons? Let's see.

We have a 1993 class. Classic four-sport card. Remember those, the four sports? No. These were cards. They were classic brand. Yeah. And you'd get, it was like college players of like draft choices.

And they had baseball, basketball, football, and hockey. Oh. And they had all four different cards. Yeah, I remember that. That was pretty cool. There is also the Wayne Simmons 1994 Tops card. That's $1.59. The classic four sports, a $1.47.

So you can get Wayne stuff pretty cheap here. A Wayne Simmons autographed 1994 Fleer card here is $119.19. What? Or best offer. Yeah, I mean, best offers around 28 dollars. Let's go best offer here. Yeah. And then a 93 signed playoff, Wayne Simmons Green Bay Packers rookie with an autograph and a certificate of authenticity here.

Yeah. is $149 for an auction and $194 buy it now. I mean, they're continuing his legacy by raping people with that is great. Who would want to pay that for that shit? Holy shit, man. I don't even know. That is fucking hilarious. My God.

And I have to say here, I feel sorry for all these people, but not nearly as sorry as I feel for Wayne Simmons Global Customer Excellence League. at Pfizer. And he's like a bald-headed black guy, so he's got to go, damn it. We have Wayne Simmons. This guy's a doctor, I think, an anesthesiologist, a board-certified anesthesiologist.

We have him. And finally, Wayne Simmons complete fucking fraud, former Fox News guest commentator who claimed to be an ex-CIA agent and was exposed as a fraud by CIA analyst Kent Clisbee and convicted of multiple counts of fraud and other violations in 2016. Dipship. Yeah, he actually worked for the CIA as an intelligence consultant, but made up a whole big other thing that he did that he didn't do.

So there you go, everybody. There is Wayne Simmons. Oh, wow. Quite the life. He's a bit of an asshole, this guy, no? I'm not a fan. I mean, apart from the fact that he played for teams that I'd have to root against anyway. Fuck that guy.

All the teams you hate he played for. He's a scum bag anyway. What a fucking dirtbag. Wow. Dude, I'm sorry. Don't feel bad at all for a guy. No. Shit face driving 100 miles an hour.

Asked for it, for sure. Tempted fate. Don't drive drunk, and if you do for some crazy reason, fucking 10 and 2 speed limit, dip shit. Don't drive 100. Your fucking shit is slowed. Backroads?

I don't know. Something. Don't do it at all, but fuck, this is crazy. You can't go on an interstate weaving in between. traffic when you're shit faced like that what an asshole and um yeah five in the morning is that what you said 245 it's around three o'clock is when bad things happen that's his time yeah what what do you think happened in the the rape case there i think he i think he's a terrible part i think he did it i think he did something i super believed that girl i believe something yeah because otherwise

he definitely put it in her or tried to he put something in her because he put something in her because Because she's torn. So why would he tell his friend that he just couldn't at all? And so that it doesn't make sense. I think he felt shame that he, I believe, is there any way to not get in trouble for that? He's dead. Who cares? Fuck him.

Yeah. It feels like he felt shame of being with a young girl and just told him, no, she jerked me off. That's all. That's what I'm thinking, too, kind of. Plus, it's also, she's just too. man. Can't get my big old dick in there. Right, because I'm a big, I'm a big man. I only fuck with, I only fuck women, because

that's the only one that can handle this. They got big monster python. Big enough pussies for me. Otherwise, I can't handle it. They got to, you know. So there you go. There is Wayne Simmons. Definitely, if you like this story and any other stories we tell,

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