Crime in Sports - Understanding Oj Titus Young

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

This week, we find out about an NFL player, who depended on his speed, but didn't count on being out of the league, just as fast. He started acting strangely. He yelled at coaches & sucker punched a t...eam mate. From there, he quickly goes down hill, off the field, with more strange behavior, which grows increasingly more violent, with arrest, after arrest. Was it mental illness, or head trauma?   Tell everyone that you're a better wide out than Calvin Johnson, climb a fence to try to get your impounded car back, and scare everyone around you, with increasingly erratic, and violent behavior with Titus Young!!   Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!   Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman   Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com   Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!!   Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:03:28 Come over to your house and, you know, do your weed whacking for you. Other than that, I don't know what I can do here. Take it easy to whackin. So that said, oh, just the weeds. That's all they're getting. Especially the Billy Martin complainers. Yeah, they're getting. I call my dick, James.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's a weed. Oh, man. Well, that could be bad because that could mean it's thin or it could be great because it means it just keeps growing, one of the two. It came out of nowhere. It came out of nowhere. I didn't expect it. Came out of my kneecap. That's the weird part.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Crazy part. When it rains, it gets smaller. The opposite. How weird is that? Jesus Christ. All right, let's get to it with our asshole of the week here. And boy, what a wild life for a guy who is not that old here at all. Titus Demetrius Young senior
Starting point is 00:04:18 Titus Young Absolutely, wide receiver As a matter of fact Yeah talented too That's the other thing Real shame here Titus Young and he's going by senior Which means he did the
Starting point is 00:04:31 Crime and Sports sin of juniering up his kid Well we already know he makes mistakes Yeah that's right away I don't understand by the way Before we even start I don't get the senior thing in the NFL I don't get it. It is bizarre.
Starting point is 00:04:46 It is bizarre. Why does Debo Sam? Right. Debo Samuel, does your son play here? Are we confusing you with him? That's what I'm saying. Unless your child is also in the NFL. That's, Ken Griffey is the only fucking guy that I can think of just about in sports history that should put a senior on his fucking jersey.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Nobody else. Ken Griffey's senior with you. Anybody else, I don't care if your two-year-old has the same name as you. It's got to, they've got to be in the league right now. It makes no sense. They've got to be in while you're in the way for it to be on there. Because otherwise, you're the only one. Yes, it makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And I don't get it. And it's been a real trend over the last 15 years. And it makes no sense to me. It's gotten much worse over the last three to five. Oh, it's really picked up. It's everywhere. I mean, it started in like 2010-ish areas when I started seeing. I was like, is that guy say senior on his jersey?
Starting point is 00:05:35 What's going on right now? Stupid. So, anyway, he's born August 21st, 1989. Wow. He's only 36, man. He's so young. This is a guy who should just be like with a talent he had to retiring from the league to a life of luxury at this point. Instead, his life is a damn mess.
Starting point is 00:05:56 We'll find out a lot about that. He is born in Los Angeles. He's not a huge guy, 511, 175, but he's like a speed receiver. So, you know. Yeah, they exist. Most of them aren't 6'5 for the most part. Not a lot of Randy Moss is running around out there with 4-2 speed that are 6-5. It is fascinating how fucking tall linemen are now.
Starting point is 00:06:17 They're all huge. They're all huge. They've always been tall, but it seems like. Now they're all six five, though. And that's a little guy. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. You see a lot of them are, you know, six, seven and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. Unbelievable. It's crazy shit, man. Yeah, that's why there's no good power forwards in the NBA. They're all playing football. They're all playing football. Yeah. So, anyway, a little bit about him, we'll start out with.
Starting point is 00:06:42 He's got a father named Richard. So he's not a junior. He is a senior. His mother's name is Teresa. Find out not a ton known about his early childhood childhood. Apparently he played high school football at university high in Los Angeles. There's a coach there named E.C. Robinson. E.C. Robinson.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, that's interesting. When people use two initials as their first name, I always find that odd. Well, more so when the two initials don't go together, like EC. Yeah, they're not. Who the fuck does that? It's not J.B. or something. Take it easy, Edward. Your name's Eddie.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah, or it's like Eugene or Ernest or Edmund or something or something that he doesn't like. Something he doesn't think is cool. Otherwise, he wouldn't be going by EC. Right. I'm sure the C is a cool name, Curtis, Charles. It could be, or it could be, you know, Cortezar or something. I never know. Oranthal James.
Starting point is 00:07:41 That's tough. Exactly. It's a tough one. So they told, apparently his parents told the coach that they have full rain. He has full rain over young Titus. Oh, really? You raise him. You raise him. We've had enough.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Essentially giving him to like Marshall Applewhite or something. Like here, take his nuts off if you want, do whatever you got to do. Like real strange shit, just full rain. Anyway, he became very close to his coach and his coach's son here. one guy who's a teammate of his in high school, teammate of Titus's, said, we did all the things kids that grow up in Los Angeles do. We partied, we smoked, nothing serious.
Starting point is 00:08:23 That's a real wide range things kids in Los Angeles do. That goes from surfing to gangbanging. That could be literally anything in that sphere. It's a pretty big sphere. That goes from vandalizing rich people's homes up to pink cocaine. Yes. The whole thing. All of it.
Starting point is 00:08:42 So that's it. So he said, you know, they weren't like big criminals or anything like that. Apparently, the coach Robinson here, who's a former probation officer. Really? Built his program on discipline in high school. And Titus needed some discipline, apparently, according to his parents and his other friends here. He apparently would, this is wild, Robinson here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:08 He had a long wooden stick. Yeah. Right away, I don't like where this is going. These are children that we're talking about who are not his children. Unless it's because he has one leg and he needs it to walk. He's just trying to go up a hill. Yeah. He's trying to get to the next room.
Starting point is 00:09:25 He would strike the ankles and calves of players who were late, players who misbehaved, or players who were high. Now, first of all, don't bum my high, number one. Number two, does that work? I mean, what the hell are we talking about here? He's beating the kids with a stick. Yeah, but how does he know that they're high? Either way, it's football.
Starting point is 00:09:50 There are other ways of doling out physical punishment. Like put him in a fucking, in that one-on-one drill with the big lineman. There you go. You don't have to beat him with a stick. That's crazy. When you're a child sitting for two hours is so long. Make him sit. There you go.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Especially football players are probably a lot. energy, I would imagine. So one of the friends, another teammate, said, Coach Rob didn't play around. Yeah. Asked about his big stick approach. He laughed and called it more of a myth than truth.
Starting point is 00:10:22 So who knows? We don't know. Either way, though, the teams are really, he puts together very good teams based on them playing very hard and hitting very hard. And, you know, he's got a real kind of
Starting point is 00:10:37 bare, Bear Bryant approach to the way he coach is kind of a thing here. So apparently Young, after a summer, basically he would, Young would sneak into football camps without paying. Just kind of hang out. No, no, no, no. They'd have like these big camps. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:59 He'd just wind up with everybody else and just learn all the shit but wouldn't pay for it. So that's pretty fun. Stand with there like he belongs. Yeah, I guess he wanted to make a statement in a scene. year. He wanted to build some buzz for college. He plays safety and wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And so he wanted to do all of this and be a real force in his senior year and do something. Now, in the opening game, apparently against, in the senior year, against San Pedro, the coach
Starting point is 00:11:32 said he watched Young, Titus Young, slam into an opposing tight end. And he said, player went one direction, the ball went the other. Young threw himself at opponents this way. He would lower his head and then fire at you with a spear tackle every time. That was the way he did. And that's the way this guy taught apparently, allegedly, taught his players to tackle was with their helmets. You know, illegally. You know, A, illegally and be the worst thing you could possibly do. But that's what they used to teach guys. They used to teach guys get them with your helmet. That's the hardest part of anything you got.
Starting point is 00:12:08 obviously hit him with that. That was a, I mean, if you could lead with your helmet, lead with it back in the day. You're considered soft if you didn't, you know. So the coach said that was the worst I've seen. It's one hit where I thought maybe something happened. The assistant coach said, I remember the game like it was yesterday.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Titus said, I don't need no picks. I got to let him know. He was sitting them on their ass, but it was all helmet to helmet. He was hitting guys so hard like a, scholarship was on the line. He was like a torpedo, knockout shots, is what he called it. The coach said, quote, Titus loved to hit with his head. Yeah. I'm going to say grace right here. Because I think we understand exactly where this is going, right? Yeah, he's going to be Stunad for a while.
Starting point is 00:13:00 He is going to be a pudding brain pretty soon here. Yeah, this is not good. The old, who the hell is the first pudding brain that we said? It was somebody's son. It was like in the first 10 episodes, 15 episodes. It was real early. We came up with Pudding Brain. Was it? Was he putting brain?
Starting point is 00:13:16 That's the first one. Okay. He did it to him. Poor little pudding head. Poor little guy. So, Jesus Christ. Apparently here, he would, the coach said he would try to motivate Titus, who always didn't take his responsibilities as seriously as the coaches want to.
Starting point is 00:13:37 He said that he would tell him that you can do the same thing as some successful guy. And he would say, you just got to keep your head together, keep your grades up and, quote, pass the SAT. Not a pass-fail test, number one. But there's definitely a threshold that colleges look at. But it's not a pass-fail. There's certainly a number where they go, did you even try? Yeah, no one says I got a D-minus on my SATs, though. I never heard that before.
Starting point is 00:14:06 How'd you join your S-A-D? Oh, I got a B. What? Yeah, that's not. You didn't take them, did you? So the coach said, and he did that. So there's that. His senior year, he racked up a 1,359 receiving yards and 20 touchdowns as a receiver. Wow. And 11 interceptions as a defensive back. That's great. So basically, All-Star on both.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Both sides of the ball, yeah. He drew scholarship offers from all around Washington, Washington, Washington. Washington State, Oregon, Idaho, Boise State, all the big West Coast schools. Oregon was what he was really considering, but we'll find out where he ends up going. But everybody said he was just always just on defense. He was just firing at you with his head all the time. That's all he would do. And in one game, he returned a kick for a touchdown with only a few seconds left and then did a front flip into the end zone.
Starting point is 00:15:05 and he got suspended for a game for it. Oh, for taunting or celebrating. I don't know. To me, if you're propelling yourself across the goal line, I don't care how you do it. If he went in the end zone got up, then did a front flip. Then maybe that's taunting or celebrating or maybe whatever is illegal. But it seems like he just got himself across the end zone in a creative way.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I think if you score, fucking celebrate however you want in under 10 seconds. I don't give a shit. I just don't know what the high school rules are. You know what I mean? I know they're probably different. It should be whenever the game, whenever the play clock expires and they have to kick off. You can celebrate up until that.
Starting point is 00:15:46 High school, I don't care because that's not, it's not entertainment. It's not commerce. It's fucking high school sports. In the NFL, it's like, this is on television. Right. Yeah, yeah. If they want to try to be more entertaining, maybe let them do it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah. Yeah, but they've also got, Target ads they got a fill. Yeah. But I mean, do you want to see that or do you want to see the special teams running on the field to come kick the extra point? I'd rather watch the guys celebrate for a minute, then cut to them lining up and kick. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I got Toyota Thon to talk about. That's true. Yeah. I got to hear from fucking Troy Aikman and hear what he has to say about everything. Yeah. I've got a Ron James going to tell me how to gamble. Concussion Hayes. I need Kevin Hart to tell me where to bet my money is what I need.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. Christ Almighty. And I also need to see a million ads for the military also. Tell me all about that stuff. Stop celebrating. We have to sell. I don't know whether to sign up for the Navy or fucking bet the parlay on the afternoon games. I'm not sure which to do.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And that's what's fucked up. That's why I don't watch the NFL anymore. I don't know which one to do. And it just disturbed me. I love football so much I'll put up with fucking anything. I'd rather watch old games. Roger Goodell can come and kick me in my nuts and my lazy. chair for four hours on a Sunday
Starting point is 00:17:05 and I'll watch. It's so fucking boring now. I gave up a long time ago. I have so much fun. I can't do it, dude. I can't watch it. I can't watch fucking people get, I can't see a play and have a personal foul and I go, I didn't see anything.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And then they show it and I go, I still don't see anything. I'm tired of this shit. They're listening to you because through week three, anytime you touched a quarterback, it was roughing. I've watched quarterbacks get fucking hammered the last five weeks. They're calling nothing. So I don't know what the fuck is what. It tells you that people... It's a shit game. Yeah, when they're trying to watch it watching the reps control the game,
Starting point is 00:17:46 they'll stop watching. I think people stopped watching for a couple of weeks and they're like, don't call it anymore. People are running. People won't stop watching because they have money on it. That's what I'm saying. They're going to watch no matter what happens because it's their fantasy team and they have bets on it and fucking Kevin Hart's involved and all things. Yeah, they got to pay that. Fucker. Gotta pay him. Say no once in a while, you fuck.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Oh, shit. So Titus decides to attend Boise State. Yeah. Which is in the midst at the time of their big. They're doing great. They're huge on the national circuit and they have that stupid blue field and everything like that. Stupid field, stupid uniforms. The whole thing is stupid.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And also the coach's son, Jason Robinson, who's two years older than Titus, is apparently on that team and he's a quarterback so quarterback receiver relationships are big and he's going to be his roommate too so he's got his boy he's going to go hang out with so that helps so he was asked in an interview before he goes to Idaho
Starting point is 00:18:47 about his early discipline problems in high school and the fact that he got suspended in high school and how he turned his life around and earned a college scholarship and Titus said quote I was tired of being the bad person in the dean's office every time I'd go to the dean's office
Starting point is 00:19:04 I'd always wish I was somebody else I'm trying to be like myself now Oh he's going to turn it around James That's a real muddled sentence That whole thing that he just said is really I'm trying to be like myself now I feel like his head's already a bit scrambled And maybe I'm looking at that
Starting point is 00:19:20 I'm not the guy that's in the principal's office Is that what he's saying? I think he's saying I don't want to be that guy I'm a different guy And now I'm going to be that different guy So 2007 boys Boisee. They're 10 and three here. Looking at this team, they got Titus, they got Austin Pettus, a few future NFL guys. Nobody really that stand out, but a bunch of guys here. But he's right away making a name for himself, Titus.
Starting point is 00:19:51 In October 2007, there's an article here that's the Idaho statesman writes, freshman receiver surprising playmaker in Broncos offense. All right. So, yeah, they said that I'll read from the article. Here's the story that convinced Boise State football coach Chris Peterson that the true freshman-wide receiver Titus Young would be an outstanding player. He's not redshirting at all or anything. He's stepping right in from high school.
Starting point is 00:20:17 They said Young practiced with the players at West Los Angeles College after school late spring to prepare himself for college football. One day a Florida gators coach stopped. by the practice. Who's that guy? The coach said, we'll take him right now, pointing at young.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That guy could play. They said, no, he's still in high school. And he said, well, then we'll definitely take him right now. Shit. I mean, I didn't even think he's, wow.
Starting point is 00:20:41 But this is when he had already signed with Boise State. So they're saying that, you know, he stood out. They said that young in the Broncos face Nevada, and they said,
Starting point is 00:20:53 coming up. And the coach said, he's better than I thought he was going to be. There's no question about that. They said Young has already made the most significant contribution on offense of any true freshman since tight end Derek Schoeman. And he'll likely surpass his numbers. I don't know. They're saying tight.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It says 13 catches for 278 yards already in October. Yeah. He's averaging 21.4 per catch, which is big shit. A senior on the team said he's doing a really good job of playing up to the college level and making himself not look like a freshman anymore. Yeah, there you go. They said, another coach said, I would call him a game time playmaker. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean, they go on. Titus said it's been one of the most challenging things, meaning just coming from high school to college here. He said, you know, you have to balance academics out with learning plays. Every week we change our plays around. Then you have to write papers. You have to go to study hall. You have to go to the training table. You have to lift weights.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It's just a lot of things to be thrown at you. You have to be mentally prepared for it. Yeah. I guess so. Shit. So they said that he was, his intensity was, for these workouts in Los Angeles, he forced himself to play the game at a greater speed, lift weights at a greater intensity. His high school coach said, I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 He was lighten those guys up. The other, the coach's son, who's the quarterback in Boise State, said his whole approach was real different. from a lot of freshmen going to college. His determination is hunger to succeed. He does everything with a chip on his shoulder. So that's good, I guess, in football, I suppose. So he's doing well in college. Everybody loves him, generally.
Starting point is 00:22:43 He hasn't gotten in any trouble or anything like that. Oh, boy. Hold on a minute. Oh, what trouble do you get? December 23rd, 2007, right before Christmas. He is suspended for the first quarter. of the Hawaii Bowl. Not allowed to play in the first quarter of the Hawaii ball.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Which is so funny to suspend somebody for a quarter. That's just hilarious. So he declined to give a reason the coach. He wouldn't say anything, though. But 2007 at Boise State, he plays in all 13 games, has 44 receptions, 639 yards, and five touchdowns. And he has two touchdowns rushing as well. So I don't know if those render rounds or whatever weird college plays they put in there.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Really good, though. But he began missing workouts and disagreeing with coaches. Uh-oh. Freshman shouldn't disagree with anything, I think, in college. You go in and shut the fuck up. If the coach's point is we're going to throw the ball to this guy and you disagree because you want the ball. Is that probably a disagreement? It could be that or.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Disagreement is throw it to me. Who knows? But it got to the point where the assistant coaches didn't know what to do anymore because he's so fucking mouthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they called his high school coach and said, how did you deal with this kid? What do we do? How do you do this? I don't know if he told him beat him with a stick or not, but I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:24:15 2008, this is when the Boise State is 12 and 1 this year. Their third in the national rankings or whatever. So doing great. He picked a good squad to go on here. You know what I mean? That's a good choice, I guess. He ends up here September 13th, 2008. He's suspended for the Bowling Green game for undisclosed reasons.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Oh, so he's suspended again. Now, September 20th, 2008, they say he returns from a one-game suspension, leads the team with seven catches in 142 yards, even though he set out a game. But Titus said, I got a little bit of. confidence out of that. I'm going to make my plays. It's not a question about that. I don't know. Make my plays. Make my plays. That's a guy that's really aiming for being a star in the NFL too. Yeah. No, he's trying to stand the fuck out. That's what he's trying to do. Make my place. They say the question is whether Young can eliminate the big mistake. He's lost four fumbles in his past
Starting point is 00:25:19 two games. Coaches have asked him to spend extra time working on ball security drills and told him he will be benched if he does things like dive for the goal line with the ball extended. Yeah. So he could fumble out there. Well, if you get in and don't fumble, it's fine. That's the problem. If you fumble, then it's a mistake. It's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:25:37 But if you're reaching out near other defenders, they can slap the ball. That's the thing. Don't do it then. Yeah. Well, it's almost like the, it's the fucking Ricky Henderson catching the ball all fancy in the out field. And it's like, well, if he drops one, then you can yell at him type of thing. You know, it's not like Willie Mayer.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Hayes where it's like, don't ever fucking do it again. Yeah. Wine, I think. If you catch him. It's nice catch, Hayes, don't ever fucking do it again. That's when he does the basket catch. So that's a great movie because you can say fuck in that movie. Yeah, so many times.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It's so much better than just don't ever do it again. Don't ever fucking do it again, really. Yeah. And him saying the only thing left to do is when, you know, you know, You can't say win the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah, to say win the whole fucking thing. That doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, that sounds terrible. Especially from Tom Berringer. Whole fucking thing. He was made to say fuck that guy. Win the whole fucking thing. Fucking thing. He says fucking better than most actors. You know what I mean?
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Starting point is 00:31:39 Now back to the show. So, anyway, he said, one of the coaches said, you want him to be relaxed and have fun, but yet you don't want those turnovers to happen. No shit. October 7th, 2008. So he's coming off a suspension less than a month ago. He's suspended for, quote, at least three games, according to his coach. Perhaps five.
Starting point is 00:32:05 We don't know for a violation of team rules that they're not saying. They're not going to specify. Then on October 27th, he's still suspended 20 days later, so it's three whole games. His suspension is then changed to an indefinite. suspension. Then this is the wildest quote I've ever heard from a coach in any sport. They said he hasn't broken any rules while suspended, which is good. It's not like he then fucked up more.
Starting point is 00:32:33 The coach said, quote, it's just that we need time apart, which you expect that from your girlfriend if you're a sophomore in college, not a football coach. Hey, look, we just need some time apart. Do you think we could ever get back together again? I don't know right now. I'm just, you know, I need some time to think. Yeah. It's not you.
Starting point is 00:32:51 It's us. It's us. You know, that's what it is. We need time to think. Let's just say that. It's, we need time apart. So that's fucking amazing. He's told to stay away from team activities for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Wow. And then he doesn't ever play again that season. He's just, they just banish him for the rest of the year. No explanation. The team's leading receiver, but being so annoying that the team just needs time apart from you. What the hell? hell happened. It is
Starting point is 00:33:20 fucking crazy, but they said it was they were shocked by it. Everybody was. They were like, what the fuck? They said, we'll look at this. We'll look at it down the road. That's the best I can do for you guys is what he tells the press. So we'll see. There's articles.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He's likely out for year. The coach said, I really don't see him returning this year. He said, I just don't want to comment on that because I'm still trying to figure this whole thing out. This sounds like a breakup of Was he fucking the coach? This is what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Is he fucking the coach's daughter? We need time apart. And I'm still trying to figure the whole thing out is absolutely when someone breaks up with you and is afraid you're going to freak out. So he only played in three games that year, had 10 receptions for 168 yards. So no good. He came back though, yeah? Not that year. 2009 he comes back.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yeah. 2009, they are 14 and 0. and the national champions. Wow. Number one ranking for them. So not too shabby for them. I'm looking. Their quarterback was Kellen Moore,
Starting point is 00:34:28 who went to the NFL. I don't know what he did in the NFL. Not much. Not much. Was it to the Lions? I can't. That's what I'm trying to remember was where he went, but I guess it really doesn't matter at this point.
Starting point is 00:34:38 It really doesn't matter. I don't know. He doesn't play now, I'll tell you that. No, no. I don't think he's still in the league for sure. So this year, Titus has 14 plays. all 14 games, 79 receptions, 1,041 yards, 10 touchdowns. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:53 That's better. You know what I mean? He's doing much better now. 2010, Boise State, 12 and 1, fourth in the final ranking. So, I mean, he did a great job of picking a school because he picked them right at the right time to get a lot of national exposure. So that was smart. You know, can't fault him for that anyway. It's just he fucked up a lot.
Starting point is 00:35:17 2010, though, 13 games, 71 receptions, 1,21 yards, 9 touchdowns, 17.1 yards per reception. Doing great. So that's very good. He did tell his scene, he did an interview with a teammate, apparently. A teammate was like doing a video and talking to players. And this is before his senior year. And he said, I was a very immature kid. This is, this is Titus here.
Starting point is 00:35:44 You know what? No, no. We're going to do it in their own words here. Yeah, before you're in their own words, James, Kellynne Moore is the head coach of the Saints now. Jesus Christ. Isn't that crazy? 15 years ago, he was a college quarterback trying to deal with this dip shit.
Starting point is 00:35:58 This is his first year. Holy shit. Here we go. Does that make him 30? 36, right? Yeah, he's got to be in his mid-30s. That's crazy. All right, so let's do this here.
Starting point is 00:36:10 In their own words, quote, I was a very immature kid. No one could tell me anything. I always thought I was right. Finally, I found out I was the person who was being bad, the person no one could talk to. I was tired of being the bad person in the dean's office. I always wished I was someone else.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So a minute ago, that wasn't him. Now it's, I was a bad guy. Now he found the error of his ways. Yep. Apparently here, there's a, I guess, an agent, I guess, a marketing agent, which is what he's calling himself. Mike Ornstein. He seeks him out that winter.
Starting point is 00:36:50 He used to be a Raiders exec, and he represented Reggie Bush and a bunch of other players as a marketing agent. By the way, in 2011, he'll get in trouble for a case involving the sale of memorabilia and Super Bowl tickets. Shocking. That an agent's a scumbag. Shocking. Sports agent specifically. Jesus, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:37:14 these guys is going to college. If you're going creeping around college campuses, that is just a gross job I don't want. They said that he commits to this guy's marketing services. He's going to let him market him and doing that. He visits Ornstein's house on several occasions, plays video games with his kids, you know, all that kind of shit introduces Ornstein to his girlfriend. Occasionally, Ornstein said, Young was rude or dismissive, but nothing. worth noting. He said he grew up in a
Starting point is 00:37:46 nice family. He grew up in South Central but he was not a thug. He's an all-around sweet kid. Okay. And, you know, I'm going to definitely say that because I'm trying to like get him like a shoe deal. Yeah. Money. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:02 So in the combine here he's a 4.3940 which is pretty fast. It's not insane, insane, but it's fucking fast. It's goddamn good. That's pretty good. that's pretty good and that's his official numbers it's not some pro day bullshit it's the actual combine here um anything else interesting here uh arm length all that shit okay 35 inch vertical jump that's good yeah he's last and he can jump that's good uh april 28th 2011 is the NFL
Starting point is 00:38:32 draft by the way the rookie of the year in 2011 guess 2011 god damn uh is it 11 11 11 11 11 2011 out of this draft. What do you think it'll be? It's got to be a quarterback, right? You should know the defensive player of the year, or the defensive rookie of the year. MVP that year was Aaron Rogers anyway.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Okay. Giants won the Super Bowl this year. Did Matt Stafford? No. Number one overall pick, Jimmy. In 2011? God, damn it. Is it Matt Stafford?
Starting point is 00:39:03 It is not. You should know one and two. Oh, is it Cam Newton and Vaughn Miller? Is it that year? Yeah. Cam Newton number one. He's the rookie of the year. also.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And Vaughn Miller number two. And Vaughn was pissed at Carolina about that. Yeah. That's why when they played in the Super Bowl, he beat the living shit out of that man. Play quarterback and you'll get drafted more. I guess so. Sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And he got played on those things. Did he get rookie of the year that year, Vaughn? I don't remember. Just defensive player probably. Defensive rookie of the year. There's offensive and defensive. Yeah. Cam's offense.
Starting point is 00:39:36 He's defense. All right. So you got Patrick Peterson, Julio Jones, a lot of guys here. Good guys. Jacksonville, Blaine Gabbard. There is so many bad quarterbacks in this one. Number eight overall is Jake Locker. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Tennessee, that was a miss. Blaine Gabbert, not great. J.J. Watt, number 11. So you took Jake Locker and you could have had J.J. Watt. Well, they had, the Texans were betting on that fucking car kids still at that time, weren't they? Yeah, yeah, it was getting the shit beaten out of him. Yeah, he was running for his life. Instead of getting a fucking offensive lineman,
Starting point is 00:40:13 get J.J. Watt. Great choice, but you know, your quarterback got killed. Number 12, Christian Ponder. Yikes. Another fucking interesting choice at quarterback. Is that Vikings? Yeah. They made a lot of, there's just a lot of bad quarterbacks picked in the first 15 picks in that one. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:29 Prince of Mukamara. Yeah. These guys. Okay. All right. So that's an interesting draft here. Andy Dalton, second round guy that year. He's not bad. I really think that kid could have been much better. They just, You can't be that much of a leader if you're a ginger.
Starting point is 00:40:46 You just can't. I'm sorry. No one's, No one's looking at it by the bangles. Yeah, no one's looking at that fucking dork and going, look, they only drafted you because your hair matches their fucking helmets.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That's it. Because on the sidelines, you look like you're still wearing a helmet. Yeah. Why do you take his face mask off? That's weird. That's weird. Second round, number 44 overall.
Starting point is 00:41:08 The Detroit Lions choose Titus Young. All right. So second round pick, not bad. That is a pretty much an uncutable position to be in. Hold on. He went to Detroit because that's where Kellynne Moore was drafted too. Well, there you go. How about that?
Starting point is 00:41:25 That makes sense then that they would do that. He may have been gone by then, but he was certainly there also. That's interesting. That would make sense of why they probably asked him about him and he said he liked them. So that makes a lot of sense. It's very interesting here. Yeah, this one, who else? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Fifth round. Richard Sherman was in the fifth round that year. Oh, I'd play like he played too if they'd drafted him in a fifth round and I was a smart sound bitch. After a wide receiver named Jeremy Curley. Whoops. There you go. And of course that was. Of course that was the Jets taking the pick before him not taking him, obviously.
Starting point is 00:42:00 So Tyrod Taylor was in the sixth round that year. So, yeah, some interesting guys. I just recently found out his pronunciation is Terod. Is it? Did you know that? I didn't know that. No. It looks like.
Starting point is 00:42:13 T.Y is Thai. Ty. T.Y is Ty. Yeah. T.I is to rod. Spell it different. Don't ask me to pronounce it. Don't ask me to pronounce it different.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Don't ask me to change my understanding of the English language. You'd fucking spell it right. Put an A in there then. Yeah. What do you want for me? 2011, Detroit. They're 10 and 6 that year. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Wow. They did decent that year. Unbelievable. They lose in the wild card. 45 to 28 to these Saints that year. Now, this year, I'm looking at their roster. This is not the best Lions team of all time, I don't think. They did it quietly with like not big stars.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I mean, obviously, Megatron was there. Yeah, Matt Stafford. And he was only 23 at the time, though, for Christ's sake. He was young. So, yeah, he's drafted. They were looking for speed because they had Calvin Johnson. They got Megatron. And then they're looking for a small speed guy
Starting point is 00:43:09 on the other side to stretch the defense out. So that's what they did. And he's one thing about Titus, he's a ballsy son of a bitch. He'll throw his head at somebody. He'll throw a block. He'll do shit like that. He does pretty well.
Starting point is 00:43:23 He catches 48 passes for 607 yards and six touchdowns as a rookie. It's not bad. That's terrific. Especially if the other guy is the most targeted receiver in the league too. He's going to get 12 to 1,400 this year. If you bring around 6 to 800,
Starting point is 00:43:39 That's incredible. That's terrific. Yeah. They say, though, the only thing that's weird is during the season, they said from game one to the last game, he's a completely different human being from the first to the end. Personality completely changed, which now we'll find out if that is more brain damage. More brain damage or more I'm in the NFL now and I feel in your own shit. You know what I mean? So what you're saying is that his personality was back.
Starting point is 00:44:09 better at the beginning. Better. He did not improve throughout the season. For the worst. Yeah, changes for the worst. They said he grew quieter around teammates and less disciplined on the field, which is the opposite of what you want. In week 13, he was benched after committing an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty
Starting point is 00:44:26 in a 31-17 loss to the Saints. He was benched for most of the fourth quarter after he shoved safety Malcolm Jenkins in the face, and it's called a personal foul. Yeah. behind closed doors, he was demanding to get the ball more often for Matt Stafford. He's a rookie yelling at Matt Stafford
Starting point is 00:44:44 when you have the best receiver in the league on the other side. Yeah. If you're Matt Stafford, how don't you not go, listen here, tiny person. Yeah, yeah, look a little guy. I'm thinking of like, do you see this fucking guy over here? Yeah, right. I can throw it anywhere around him and he'll catch it.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Like literally, he's got a fucking nine-foot wingspan this guy. And Megatron, literally, you didn't even have to throw it just around him, He'll snag that shit. And the other part is, can you do that? Are you six-five? 60 yards down field, I can still see him like he's standing next to me. Yeah, I can throw it up, and I know he'll be the guy coming down.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I know he's there. I know the general vicinity I got to throw it to. For you, I've got to target you. It's got to be right. I got to hit you perfect. That's a, I mean, if you're a quarterback, having a guy like Megatron's a dream. You just throw it in his general vicinity. And he's going to muscle the guy out of the way and take it.
Starting point is 00:45:35 So that's what it is. So he's doing all that shit. Nate Burleson, the wide receiver who joined the team in 2010, said he would, yeah, Nate's good. He said he would say things and he would argue and we would argue behind closed doors. And then when we came out, it was all good. He wanted to be the one, the number one receiver. I told him he had to wait his turn.
Starting point is 00:45:59 You're going to have to wait until that guy doesn't want to play anymore or go to another team. You'll never be better than him because he's the best in the league. you're never going to be better than him. He's top 10 history probably. He's so good. He's fucking great. Yeah. That's like going to the Niners in 88 and going, I want to be the number one receiver.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Well, good luck. Our tight ends better than you. There's the greatest of all time over there, so enjoy. I mean, fucking good luck to you. Great, try all you want. Yeah. Don't complain when you're not. Please compete with him because he's the best there is ever.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. No shit. So that fall, the least. through its office of player engagement, which I didn't know even existed, reaches out to Titus Young to offer him counseling. This is at the request of a person
Starting point is 00:46:47 in his, quote, inner circle. So I don't know if that's his football inner circle or if his family reached out to him or to the NFL or somebody, but he declined and said, go fuck yourself. I don't want any help of anything. I'll do it on my own?
Starting point is 00:47:02 I'm doing great. Okay. So 48 receptions, 267 yards, 12.6 per reception. He's targeted 86 times only makes 48 catches. That doesn't sound good. How many times? 86 targets.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Ooh, you're dropping 40 passes? Well, also, that can be staffered over through. Contested, whatever, yeah. And he's a deep threat, so that makes sense too, because a lot of his balls are 30 yards. They're not, you know, a little outrouts or anything like that. Now, during his rookie season, he told his cousin and close, friend, Ezekiel Phillips, about absorbing a hard hit, feeling dazed, and shaking it off and
Starting point is 00:47:43 continuing to play. So he took one, and he's telling this guy. Yeah, which is absolutely what all those guys did. And they still, you hear, they still, they say, if you see a guy down and he says he's got the wind knocked out of him, he's trying to get his fucking head together. He goes, I've gotten the wind, I've heard a player say, I've gotten the wind knocked out of me a couple times. I've had my head dinged and had to get my shit together.
Starting point is 00:48:06 they're 50 times. He's like, that's a completely different thing. That's what the guys do now. They just don't grab their head. They know to grab their chest and pretend they get the wind knocked out of them. That gives them, they can lay there for 10 seconds and get the stars out and get up and pretend they're fine. They don't want to be on concussion protocol. And there's still, there's, so that helmet to helmet thing, it must be out the window too, because I see that three, four times in a game, let alone. It's arbitrary when it's called. And there's 16 games going on at once. Yeah, that's why I don't watch the NFL is because it's completely arbitrary.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I see huge helmet-to-helmet hits no call. I see one where it's like obviously the guy was trying not to hit him and they barely skimmed and that's 15 fucking yards. Get the fuck out of here, man. A guy was ejected from the Chiefs game yesterday for what I guess they called Helmutton. I don't know what they were calling it, but I saw the play. I mean, in 1986, people would have been like, I think he could have hit him harder. Yeah, it wasn't. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Well, that was a laydown tackle. That's what they would have said. Something like that. It wasn't that big of a deal. I don't get the weird and non-enforcement of rules and enforcement, over-enforcement of other rules. Look at the NBA. I just saw highlight the NBA.
Starting point is 00:49:16 A guy went coast to fucking coast on two dribbles. Do you think that's physically possible? He traveled like six times, Jimmy. He dribbled, picked it up, held it like a fucking tray of drinks, ran like five steps, dribbled one more time, held it up again. What the fuck? fuck are you doing? And no one called that shit. There's another one, a
Starting point is 00:49:39 Knicks player I just saw. Dribbling and then take like five steps out to the three point line. Then run back in. He picked up the ball a lot. He took like eight steps and then made a shot and then there was no call. There's also a giant chasm and gap between
Starting point is 00:49:55 a lot of the talent in the NBA too. So they let things go that they shouldn't. But it's because there's not a lot of people that can play. I mean, LeBron do a lot of shit too. Which is insane because he's so talented. He's good enough. They shouldn't let him do whatever he wants.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That scorecasting book, when they broke it down mathematically, stars get breaks in the NBA. It's just the way it is. But there's players that are trying to create, clearly trying to create theater between it, like this Dylan Brooks kid that the son's picked. I hate that they picked him up because he was a piece of shit with Houston. He's a good player, but people hate him because of the way he plays.
Starting point is 00:50:32 And he's doing it here, and they're trying to create a rivalry. between the Lakers and the Sons, and he's the one out there being a goon, throwing his chest and LeBron's chest. And they're throwing people out for this shit. They threw him out last night for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:45 It's so dumb. It's so fucking stupid. You can't, he didn't punch him. There was no fight. It was just he stood up and bumped his chest at him, and they threw, like, what are you doing? Do we want a rivalry or don't we? Nope.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And then fucking baseball, well, let's wait for the replay. What are we doing? What the fuck are we doing? Yeah, we sound like old men yelling at clouds. I get that. I understand. But it's fucking bad. You're giving up on them.
Starting point is 00:51:15 They're terrible. Why am I, you're making a terrible product? I'm going to reward you with my fucking eyeballs. Fuck you. I'm not watching a fucking thing any of these fucking leagues do. I just don't. I think I believe deep in my heart that it's a, why do you have refs out there if you're just going to replay it? If you're just going to do that, then just do computer every time.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Because the part of the game that's fun and fucking annoying at the same time is the human failure, human mistake. Perhaps in a blink of an eye, an old fucking man that can barely run down the field doesn't make the right call. Maybe that happens. Because there's not a dude on this field pressing a button and talking to America that's under 60 fucking five. They're old men. Their eyes probably aren't great. They're going to fuck up from time to time. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:52:04 It's impossible. It moves fast. Yeah. Go watch a fucking high school game. They don't make the right call every time. They show a frame by frame replay and you're going, oh, that's hard to tell. That kind of had to do it in real time. He didn't even have a frame by frame.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I think he blew that call. Blew the call. You think he blew the call. You think so on a frame by frame from six different fucking angles. The guy didn't fucking see it. He made the best guess he could. That's what he did. It blew the, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Oh, I think this is terrible officiating. Terrible. He's 60 fucking 5. It's a miracle he's here. And I got tired. That's the other thing that pissed me off with the Major League Baseball is people expecting the umps to be 100% accurate all the time. It's like they're humans and that's part of the fucking fun of the game. He's also got his head in the crook of the neck of a man in front of him. He can't see where that ball came across. He's making his best guess. Yes, it's the difference between, okay, if you're playing a fucking, baseball video game.
Starting point is 00:53:05 A lot of them used to have the option of exact or variable strike zone, meaning fucking human strike zone? Or do you want it to be just in this little tiny box? And you know what? That's so fucking boring. It's annoying. And it's just as boring in real life. It's just as fucking boring. And it's fun to say
Starting point is 00:53:24 your team sucks. You want to argue. And they won, sure, but it's because the refs fucking blow. Fuck you. That's much more fun. You also want to fucking say like, Oh, the 97 World Series that Levan Hernandez getting all his outside calls and all that. You want to be able to argue
Starting point is 00:53:40 about that and talk about that. That's interesting. That creates theater. This shit is just a fucking computer. And the first down marker with a computer. Why are we doing that? Put a fucking GPS in the ball. We'll know where it made it to. Do that. I'm telling you. What the fuck are we doing?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Video games are too realistic looking and are better. I'd rather watch a person play a video game than I would. I'd rather play Grand Theft Auto. It's so much more fun. So, so much more fun. So Titus Young here,
Starting point is 00:54:07 he didn't want to believe that he had any mental health problems, a friend of his. No, he was saying it was more of getting hit in the head. That's all. I just got hit in the head. I got dinged a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:54:17 May 21st, 2012, during a lion's off-season workout. Well, that's good. He showed up for that. He and a defensive back, Louis Delmus, or Lewis Delmus, got into a disagreement, and Titus took a swing at him
Starting point is 00:54:31 while he wasn't looking. He took a sucker punch at the guy. He snuck him? Why? He sucker punched him and got banned from the team's facility. Is that much bigger than him? It's got to be, right? They're a defensive back, so probably not.
Starting point is 00:54:43 They're probably similar sizes. Yeah, that's what I would think. I mean, you don't see a ton of giant. No, because they'd play receiver and make more money. You know, and get more attention. It'd be a bigger star. It'd be a bigger star. And anybody in college would have been like, well, we're switching you to receiver
Starting point is 00:55:02 because scoring is more important. Right, right, because points matter more than interceptions. Yep. So he takes a swing at him when he's not looking. He's banned. He went back to L.A. And at a Fourth of July barbecue, he said he was telling everybody that he was a better player than Calvin Johnson.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Oh. Okay. Hold on. He fought Delmus, then went home and told people he's better than Calvin Johnson. Better than Calvin Johnson. I'm better than the best receiver in the league. So this is his assistant coach from high school. He's at a barbecue with this guy.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Low is his name. And this low guy says, we had an argument after he said that. He said, I'm like, dude, what are you talking about? And he was like, they can't guard me. I'm open all the time. My roots are better. I'm faster. My swag is better.
Starting point is 00:55:52 My what? Are you a 6-5 fucking freak of nature who can catch balls that are fucking 12? feet in the air. No, then shut the fuck up. No one cares. And your swag? Who gives a fuck? Your swag is better? That doesn't matter. Oh, I see the Lions, well, I see they lost 21 to 17, but oh, wait, no, no, they get an extra five swag points, so they actually won. Never mind. That doesn't, I've never heard that happen before. Thank God for Titus Young who brought his swag points to the game. Dang, fuck for that. So this guy, the low guy, says part of it was funny, but the other thing is he really believed that. We know a guy.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Yeah. Wow. I get it too. Yeah. Wide receivers kind of have to be like fighter pilots. Yeah. Yeah. In a way where they're walking this crazy tight rope where they have to keep themselves in a mental state of insanity to be able to think that you're the fastest, the greatest. I get that. But at a certain point, when you're like in private with your friend,
Starting point is 00:56:54 don't act like that. Calm the fuck down. during the summer of 2012, he spent most of his time working out with high schoolers, which he would give them cleats and gloves through his Adidas partnership, so that's nice. He would race players for the cleats off his feet. So if you beat me, you get my cleats. Oh, you're going to have my shoes? Yeah. One of them here, a kid named Justin White, who was really fast as he almost beat him.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Titus demanded a rematch to set the record straight. Now, I don't know anybody are thinking you can beat me here. This kid who Justin White said he was happy. He was a jokester. He was cool with me. Everybody liked being around him. Right. So that's nice.
Starting point is 00:57:36 At one point, this is interesting. While packing for a trip to Las Vegas in 2012, Marjani Maldonado, who's his former girlfriend, and we'll find out why it's former pretty quick here, heard young telling someone to stop recording. Oh? She was like, what's going on? So she went and looked.
Starting point is 00:57:56 he was yelling at the smoke detector. Okay. We've had I. Beabuchi say there's demons in the air conditioning. We've never heard about demons in the smoke detectors before. The red light. He thinks it's recording. It was beeping because it had a low battery. So every, you know, 30 seconds it beeps.
Starting point is 00:58:19 He thought it contained a camera and that's why it was doing that. Oh, boy. That number one, you've never. been around a smoke detector with its battery low before? A and B, what? What the fuck is wrong with you? And if it was recording, that beep wouldn't help.
Starting point is 00:58:36 That would be very, that'd be bad for the recording. Somebody said a few weeks ago that it sounded like we had a smoke detector beep in our show. And there's a bunch of people like, oh, I totally heard that blah, blah, blah. And I was like, now, if you heard it once, wouldn't you have heard it again for the rest of the fucking show? If it was a smoke detector? pretty sure it's my chair every once in a while you were talking i got up there you yeah you didn't
Starting point is 00:59:00 even notice but i was up there changing you gave me the one second and i was like i said i'll talk and then jimmy stood on his stood on his office chair and changed it out for me that was nice of them it was good a new nine volt up there and i'm a problem solver james i love when people i love when people get a a fucking nut of something and just make a whole thing out of it that cracks me up it wasn't bad it was just funny sit there while i was driving down the road and like what did i just hear know what it was. I know. Jimmy saw. He. Oh, he got it. Now,
Starting point is 00:59:31 he didn't just think it was recording audio. He thought it had a camera in it. Video. Yeah. Video. So, his girlfriend realized something was seriously wrong. Something way more than just the last concussion he had. There's something up here. That's dead brain. This is
Starting point is 00:59:47 weird. So 2012, the lions are four and twelve. Yikes. It turned around. This is when they really went in the shitter for a while. happened? Did Megatron leave then? Did he retire then? No, I don't think he retired that early, did he? How long's he been gone? I don't know. He had to have been.
Starting point is 01:00:03 If they went four and fucking 12, wow. He played in every goddamn game that year, Megatron. Jesus, Calvin, get it together. Every fucking game. Not his fault. He played in every game. I'm sure he led the league and everything. Their defense was probably fucking terrible. That's probably not good.
Starting point is 01:00:19 That's probably what it was. They were in bad shape, man. Let me look here. Points four. Points again. 27th out of 32. Bottom five defense. Yeah. Not good. And a middling offense, 17 out of 32.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So, you know. So they're probably putting up 17 to 20 points a game, but they're allowing 28, and that's a problem. I'm also going to see if Stephs Stafford started all 16 games. Yeah. Maybe he was hurt a little bit. And Dama can sue they got there and doing his thing. He's probably the only one they've got.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So Titus starts eight games, plays in 10 games this year. He catches 33 passes for 383 yards, 11.6 per catch, and four touchdowns that year. So, you know, not the greatest year. He also did some real weird shit. He's getting weirder and weirder. He posted a series of bizarre messages on his social media. He would go crazy on strangers without any provocation.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Just people walking by, he'd start yelling at them like they were doing something to him. Not on Twitter. No, no, no. Real life just sipping their coffee. like stop looking at me like that they'd be like stop recording yeah stop recording me he couldn't sleep he got paranoid
Starting point is 01:01:33 what is going on his girlfriend Marjani said he was ill prepared but she's the woman he'll have a kid with by the way too she said when he got to to Detroit he wasn't the biggest player on the team anymore
Starting point is 01:01:47 and that messed with his mental side he was used to having the spotlight the attention on him which is receivers in general. She said Titus doesn't take direction very well. If someone tried to coach him or teach him how to do it a little better, Titus would say, no, I've got it.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Wow. Which is the worst thing in anything for sports. You can't do that in sports. Finally, the Lions have had enough of this shit. Upon returning to Lions HQ in Allen Park, Michigan, Young was even more weird. In November 2012, all sorts of shit going on. he apparently is fighting with the coaches.
Starting point is 01:02:26 One play, he intentionally lined up in the wrong spot and ran the wrong roots in a game against the Packers. He would intentionally fuck up. Ran the route wrong in the game. In a game. So you can't, you can't essentially. You don't even know where he's going. So you can't throw him the ball.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And even if they, even if you check down to him and go to throw to him, he's not in the place you think he's going to be. Exactly. So it's like having 10 players on the field. He's useless to you at that point. And you're sabotaging. that quarterback and getting the opportunity to throw interceptions, which ruins his life. Big time.
Starting point is 01:02:59 So that's not good. He struggled through a stretch. Detroit lost its last eight games. So they were four and four and then lost out from there. He got benched for the rest of the season. Nate Burleson said it's hard to say when he started to change. There wasn't one moment. You don't want to make assumptions when somebody's dealing with something that is in a sense invisible.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Two weeks before the Super Bowl, Titus Young tweeted, I never been selfish, but if I'm not going to get the football, I don't want to play anymore. Okay. So two weeks later, even though he has two years and $4.6 million left on his contract, the Lions cut his ass. Yeah. So that's that for him on the Lions.
Starting point is 01:03:44 It's not going to go very well here. February 2013, the day after he's released, the Rams claim him. Okay. If you don't know the backstory, he's a guy that just looks like a real fast guy who's got a lot of physical ability and can be a big field stretcher. And maybe they just didn't know how to handle him, but we can take care of him. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:05 You see this all the time. The Rams are still in St. Louis at that point, right? Well, yes, it's before they came back. They claimed him off waivers. And it's Jeff Fisher, so he's been there a long time. He thinks, eh, we have a culture that can take a guy like that in. We fix him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:20 They said they're looking to replace Danny Amandola, who was this little kind of slot fast speed receiver. Went up to New England, right? I think so, who was expected to leave from free agency. Over the course of several meetings with Rams personnel, they said he was off kilter and unfocused. At one point, while meeting with Jeff Fisher, he tells Jeff he wants to move to defensive back. Oh, he wants to play defense now? They're like, huh? We're trying to sign you, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Now you want to play in different positions. We're putting in you. You got cut as your number one position. What do you think we're going to switch you now? We got a whole ass depth chart, man. This is wild. On February 14th, he left the Rams facility for the airport with a team escort,
Starting point is 01:05:08 but when he arrived, he couldn't find his driver's license. He was told he couldn't get on the plane without a fucking ID, so he threw a shit fit. Oh, boy. Yes. Ornstein, his marketing agent guy, said it was a big scene there at the airport, which is if you're a famous person, the last place you want to make a scene is the goddamn airport. They, they, the Rams, could see there was something wrong then. If he had gone down there and been his normal self, he'd still be there. So the Rams helped settle the lost ID problem and got him back to L.A. And then the next day, they announced they've released him. Oh, goodbye. It's over. Yeah. Yeah, you're out of your fucking mind. So they said in the next ensuing days here, Ornstein said that he reached out to representatives of Brandon Marshall, who if you go back and listen to the Brandon Marshall episode, you've seen a lot of parallels here. Yeah. Except Brandon Marshall is one of the best receivers in the league.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Yeah, right. This is the only difference. And he recognized there was something wrong and is trying to fix it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, he's like a decent guy, Brandon Marshall, as we talked about at the end. We came out with that feeling more bad. for him than anything else.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Yeah. That's one of those things. So they end up saying that, you know, maybe the bears know what to do since or the representatives of Brandon Marshall because he had sought treatment at the McLean Hospital in Massachusetts for his bipolar disorder. Marshall was able to reach out to young, but he was unable to persuade him to check into the McLean Center or hospital there and get himself checked out. Didn't want to do it. So, yeah. He thinks he's fine. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I mean, if I got cut from two teams in less than a month, I might not think I was fine. And it's all for your mental shit. Yeah, there's nothing to do with how you play. That's the fucked up part. Like, in this league, having the physical ability and the balls to do the things on the field, that should be most of the battle. Oh, yeah. But if you got this going on, this is crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:10 So soon after that here, two weeks after he's released by the Rams, Ornstein asked Titus here and his father, Richard, and a cousin to meet him at his office in L.A. And there, Ornstein laid out a plan to send Titus to the McLean Hospital. Oh. But Titus got angry and stormed out. Uh-oh. Soon after that, his family, Titus's family, admitted him to UCLA's neuropsychiatric hospital in Los Angeles. So they see there's a problem here.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Ornstein visited him in early March several days into a stay, and he described the scene saying Young was in a bed surrounded by his parents and sisters and dripping with sweat. What? It's so fucked up. They said he wore sunglasses because his eyes were sensitive to the light. So he's sweating. What is going on?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Ray Charles just did a set when he's in a mental hospital with his fucking parents sitting next door. What is this condition? We have no idea. Ornstein was told that he had been sedated. He's been sedated, so it's okay. Ornstein said something happened that changed him, and it changed him overnight. I went to the hospital and it wasn't him.
Starting point is 01:08:28 So Ornstein said the family sought treatment for him in Texas, where Titus' father has his family. They said, Richard and the rest of Young's family declined any interview requests here about this. so that's unfortunate. We don't get to more details, but understandable too. This was the last of Ornstein's involvement with Titus. He was like, I'm out. I can't market crazy people or people who aren't in business, essentially. Young ended up outside his high school coach's home, Robinson.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah. But he wish he had that stick now. Oh, shit. Rambling that he would be the Rams top receiver in the coming. season. He's already been cut. Whoa. Robinson said he appeared like he was in a daze and Robinson told him the Rams ranes cut you, man. You're not on the Rams. You don't play football anymore. He said Titus could not process it. He said he didn't understand it. He thought he's like, yeah, I am. I'm on the
Starting point is 01:09:28 Rams. And he's like, no, you're not. Trust me. I saw the report when they cut you. You're cut. March of 2013 in L.A., he appeared, that's when he appeared unannounced at his coach's house there, who wasn't home at the time. He said, when my daughter pulled up to the house, Titus was sitting on the brick wall by my garage and he said, where's coach? So this daughter called her dad when she saw Titus wander off the wall and into the busy street. we'll just walk in the middle of the street she waved him to her car and brought him to the restaurant
Starting point is 01:10:07 where her dad was eating and that's when this whole thing happened they ordered carry out chicken from El Pollo loco which is barely a restaurant I don't even know if I call out a restaurant we have an old Pollo loco for it to do for your stupid
Starting point is 01:10:20 opinions coming up Oh do we? Just terrible food yeah I can't wait to do that one at my house and I really like it Really? They have a bowl that's fucking incredible and then they got burritos that are pretty legit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I don't eat the chicken. I've never had El Pollo Loco only because there was that one on Bell Road like by 7th Street. I've literally never seen a car at it ever. I was like, you can't eat that chicken. There's never anybody there. Never a soul. It made Long Jong Silvers look packed. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:50 The inside of that one was real. You don't want to go on that one. That one's gross. No. I just went by and I go, who eats there at that particular location? So they got that, they got him some El Pollo Loco and brought it back to Robinson's house. You know, crazy chicken. Yeah, that's very appropriate.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Yeah. Very appropriate. Isn't this man, crazy man food? That is right on the money. A little on the nose, coach, you know what I'm saying? What do you want, El Poyo loco or something? Jesus Christ. So the quote from Robinson is he said, I'm going to help the Rams.
Starting point is 01:11:28 out this year. I'm going. Robinson said, I said, Titus, the Rams cut you, and he just stared off into space. Wow. Robinson took to testing Titus's memory. He could no longer remember winning the team MVP award as a senior or the speech he gave when he received it. He didn't remember any of that. He didn't remember who Jason Robinson was, who was one of his best friends, the coach's son, and his quarterback at fucking Boise State. and his roommate,
Starting point is 01:11:59 there was his roommate at Boise State for, I think, two years. He didn't remember that they were roommates at Boise. He said that he had been to a treatment facility in Texas and that somewhere along the road, he had been told there was a, quote, spot on his brain. Yeah. No one told him that. Did they do this interview before or after the chicken?
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah, maybe it was the chicken. Maybe it was the chicken. Maybe we can blame all this on the chicken. So he's got a spot on his brain. Do they mean a lesion or a bruise or like there's... He doesn't know what he means. He said that. He doesn't remember anybody in the room.
Starting point is 01:12:35 He doesn't remember his fucking senior year of high school three years removed from it, for Christ's sake. I think he remembers that. That's the other point. He's 22. He's a kid. He's like 23 years old. Jesus Christ. Robinson, the coach said, when he left, I just cried.
Starting point is 01:12:52 So I called his player agent Kevin Poston and told him this kid needs some. help. He said, coach, I had him in a facility in Detroit and he just walked out. I tried, basically. So he said that that was the last time he saw Titus at his house. So he walked off and that was that. Wow. So there's a Titus's cousin a little while afterwards, I stopped at a gas station. And he said Young tried to exit the car to escape invisible pursuers. he was driving Titus is in the car they pull up to a gas station he like tries to get out of the car and run
Starting point is 01:13:30 and he said quote they're going to get us and he bolted yeah so no no he said he locked the doors and put the lock on him you know like the safety lock or he can put it so kids don't get out he said he locked the doors and drove to the neuropsychiatric hospital at UCLA with him
Starting point is 01:13:46 wow um yeah that's that he said he had to go right there later on Ornstein said about Titus's family, their church-going, god-faring people that believe Jesus Christ will save everything for their kid. And that's fine when everything's good. When you have a crisis like this, it's not the best group to be around.
Starting point is 01:14:05 This guy need a professional help, and they were trying to keep him at home. They're talking about Jesus will heal him. Well, you know, he doesn't have the best track record with shit like this. I mean, there's plenty of prey and plenty of people still drop dead all the time. So maybe he needs a doctor.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I'm saying. So they said that was when he was wearing sunglasses inside and doing all this shit. Young wrote in his diary, having bipolar has pretty much torn my life down. It's been four years of fighting so many different behaviors. When I was first diagnosed, I didn't want to believe it because I felt like my life was too perfect to have bipolar. Football players don't take medicine. I'm macho. We only take painkillers that feel good.
Starting point is 01:14:51 We heal with pussy and booze. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Pussy and booze and more head injuries. He said, I'm macho. Put me back on the field. But no, that's not really what I needed. That's what he wrote later on.
Starting point is 01:15:05 May 4, 2013, 9 p.m. Young walks out of a Chevron station in Laguna Hills without paying for a candy bar, a bottle of water, and a box of black and mild cigars. Uh-oh. He is carrying his infant. son, by the way. He just stole $10 worth of shit while carrying a baby.
Starting point is 01:15:25 While carrying a baby, and then he's walking out. So the Orange County Sheriff's Department report noted that he pretended to shoot cars with a finger as he drove away. Finger guns. He's finger gunning with his stolen candy bar and his infant and a baby. Two hours later, the Riverside County Sheriff's Department received a call about young sitting in his black Ford Mustang convertible outside the Marino. Valley house of his girlfriend's parents, Maldonado. And the dispatch log said, subject has a history of mental health issues and then says unknown what kind appeared catatonic.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Okay. Later that night, he'll end up being arrested on suspicion of impaired driving. And we'll talk about that. May 7th, he's going to be arrested twice in a 15-hour period. Whoa. Yeah, not good. And this is in Riverside County. He's pulled over at 12.01 a.m.
Starting point is 01:16:27 for making an illegal left turn. He was then arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence and booked by the Moreno Valley Police at the Robert Presley Detention Center and issued a citation and released. At 2.22 p.m., same day, officers respond to a local tow yard after a man was seen climbing over a fence.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah? That turned out to be young who said he was looking for his car that they impounded. He tried to break into the impound yard to get his fucking car. So he's arrested for burglary and booked again.
Starting point is 01:17:02 They bring him right back. He's released on $5,000 bail. Wow. So his high school coach Robinson said, based on the last time I did see him, I knew that unless he got some help, there was going to be some issues. And I told him that too.
Starting point is 01:17:17 And I thought maybe since I hadn't heard anything from him that he was in some institute getting help. That's just what I figured. But I know the last time I saw him, I was just shocked at the stage he was in at that time. He said at that point he was talking some things that just didn't make sense. I don't know. I just wish he'd get some help. I know football is probably out of the question right now. It's trying to get his life together.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Right now. Come on, man. Wow. He was on the Lions on February 4th. And it's May 15th. He went from, you know, the deep threat for the lions to, I'm cut, I'm signed, I'm cut, I'm crazy, I'm in here, I'm in there, I'm arrested, I'm making finger guns, I'm stealing fucking, I'm stealing candy bars, I'm eating crazy chicken. Wow. So, during the second week of May, he showed up at his alma mater looking for the Lowe, who was Robinson's successor as head coach.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Lowe remembered, you know, young He was a cocky kid. He said Terrell Owens was his favorite player. Yeah. Which, again, Torel Owens on the field, outstanding. A player, yeah. Can't say a fucking bad word about tough. I mean, does everything off the field.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Terrell Owens in a contract dispute is a wacky guy. He's a fucking Wackadoo doing sit-ups in his driveway. So he said, but on this day, he said, Young lacked the edge that wants to find him. He was desperate and jobless. Lowe said he just got done working out and he had a far away look like he was looking past you. For a minute, we thought he got a hold of some bad drugs or something. He was in Detroit.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I know how Detroit gets down. Maybe he got bad drugs because he was in Detroit two months ago, three months ago. Detroit, you know, Rock City. You know what the Rock is. And it's not even drugs, bad drugs. What are we talking about? It's everywhere, man. They don't have good drugs there.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I'm like, I hope you're not doing any of these new drugs. This guy's real connected with the youth of America, isn't he? He's going to be great for high school kids. Hope you're not doing any of them newfangled drugs, are you? The new drugs, you know what they are. Purple cocaine and ketitine and all that stuff. I said, I know what y'all do. Yeah, it's your pink cocaine and your yellow acid.
Starting point is 01:19:34 You know it all. I've seen it. I've seen the orange weed, too. Oh, boy. It's too much. What is he doing? I know how Detroit gets down. I'm like, I hope you're not doing any of these new drugs.
Starting point is 01:19:46 And he was telling me, no, coach, I'm not. Then he said, man, if I can get back in the league, shit, I'll hop the gate if I have to. So Lowe said, he thought that was dedication. He really wants back. He said, he thought the metaphor was odd, but that's fine. Yeah, there's no gate, but okay. That's what he said. His quote was he thought the metaphor seemed odd.
Starting point is 01:20:07 He said that Titus then asked if he could coach the high school defensive backs who are on hand for off-season workouts. But Lowe said, I don't know about this. He said, maybe next time. We have a guy now because he thought, you're kind of wacky, and I don't want you having a weird meltdown in front of these high school kids. You're going to fuck their sight. I don't need you showing kids how to jump a gate.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I got sophomores here. Like, I got a 14-year-old. I don't really want. You're pretty. I don't know a bunch of purple heroin that you might be bringing in. And you're in the NFL, like, they're going to look up to you and pretty much listen to whatever you say. Anything. And you think the fucking smoke machine is, smoke machine? No, smoke alarm.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Yeah. It's talking to you. May 8th, 2013. There's a story posted on Deadspin and then elaborated on later on, which is pretty fucking crazy. He's at the Plymouth Canton AT&T store. And he gets in an apparent argument with the staff and he's yelling at them and abusing them. He said, don't you know who I am. He demanded free stuff. And then sat down on the bench where the customers can sit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And fell asleep. Oh, my. Went and took asleep. Demanded free shit and then slept in the store? Well, apparently the store was closed. Young walked up to the store and started banging on the door. Now, the staff can't open that door. They don't have a lot of control over this.
Starting point is 01:21:40 electronically, you know, done. So he proceeded to hold up his driver's license to the window and said, do you know who I am? I'm Titus Young, to which they bolted a second lock, I would assume, by now. And go, oh, shit, it's Titus Young, everybody. Run. He's not armed with a baby right now. That's good. Run out the back.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Just run. Holy shit. So he did that. The staff ignored him and were like, who the fuck is this guy out there? What is he doing? The guy that eats it crazy chicken? Is that you? Is that you?
Starting point is 01:22:14 He's holding a box of El Pollo loco in one hand, a baby under his arm, and he's putting his license up to the window. He's got a pocket full of black and mild, so. He's got those. So we know he smokes weed. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:27 No other reason to smoke those nasty motherfucker. Unless you're like a sound like me. Yeah, unless you're like a 70-year-old man who really wants to puff on something. Yeah. So he then called, this is from the manager, said, quote, he called my employee, quote, grimy, banged on the window and stormed off.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Come me, grimy, bitch, open the door. Oh, my God, that's fucking hilarious, grimy. So he had his sister with him, and he complained to anyone who would listen that he had been kept out of out the night before and deserved everything in the store for free. So he came back the next day and were like, you guys wouldn't serve. me last night. Now you should give me shit for free. Wow. They said his little sister, her sister pushed him off to the side. She looked like she had common sense. She looked like his wrangler, as what the person in the store said. He then sat on the bench in the center of the store and went
Starting point is 01:23:28 to sleep. Oh my God. And the person from the store said he was just sawing logs, snoring. Kids were looking at him and laughing. What? Like this guy's passed out laughing. He fell asleep so hard. He fell asleep so He was snoring. That's fucking amazing. Then about a week later, remember the Louis Delmus guy? The guy got to fight with? He's sucker punched, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:51 He came into the store and the staff was telling them about it. They're like, dude, that one guy that played for what the fuck is up with him? And he's like, he's crazy. The guy sucker punched me. Randolph, who worked at the store, said he was making fun of him, meaning Delmar was. Delmas said he was making fun of him calling him a punk. It was pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:24:12 He was just laughing about it. He added that lots of Lions players stopped into the store because of its convenient location, and every other player was nice to deal with except Titus. Randolph, who worked at the store, said Brandon Pedigrew came in there. He was super nice. All the other players were nice. But Titus, he was just a punk. Here is the picture of him sleeping in the store.
Starting point is 01:24:35 They took a picture. Whoa. He puts the hoodie over his eyes. He's got a hat. and a hoodie over the hat. But this is 2013. You pass out in a store. Someone's taking a picture of that shit.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Especially if you're snoring, man. Loudly. Even if you're not famous, someone will take a picture of that posted on social media. Specifically if you're not famous. But if you're famous, holy shit. May 12th, 2013. He was in the NFL two fucking months ago. Just a minute ago.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Yeah. Okay. Wow. He is arrested for the third time this week. around 11.30 p.m. in San Clemente, California, after police say he broke into a home of the 3,700 block of Kalei Casino, according to Lieutenant Joe Balicki of the Orange County Sheriff's Department. When officers arrived at the home, he fled on foot,
Starting point is 01:25:29 which that's a pretty good strategy if you got 4-4-speed. How many cops have 4-4 speed with a gun belt on? There was a brief pursuit. A 4-4-naked shit. 4-4. If you gave him a second, they don't have 4-4. You gave him a second handicap. They still don't have a 4-4.
Starting point is 01:25:50 You kidding me? That's crazy. Some 45-year-old normal guy with a beer gut? He's not running a 5-4, I guarantee it. He's running like a 6-9. You're lucky. My kids will time me and see what I run it. I'll bet it's seven seconds.
Starting point is 01:26:05 It sure as fuck ain't a 4-4. I'll tell you that much. So he takes off. I think he got hemmed up somewhere and couldn't get away. So he then fought with the officers. Oh, God. They said, one of the cops said there was a brief struggle. He wanted to fight with the deputies.
Starting point is 01:26:21 They ended up subduing him. So he's charged with burglary, assault on a police officer, and resisting arrest. Nobody was injured in the struggle and nothing was stolen from the home. So we're trying to figure out what the fuck is going on here. on May 12th Robinson, his old coach and his wife, were having lunch with their daughter when their son Jason rushed through the door in tears. I said, what's wrong with you? Robinson said. My son said, Daddy, haven't you?
Starting point is 01:26:50 He's a grown man who calls his father Daddy. I hate that. I hate that. He said, Daddy, you haven't seen the news? They say Titus got arrested again in San Clemente. Now, Robinson said, first of all, what the fuck was he doing in San Clemente? which is an hour away from where he lives. And Young's girlfriend live outside of L.A., not in San Clemente, in Marino Valley, where he was arrested the last time.
Starting point is 01:27:16 San Clemente is an hour south in Orange County. And Robinson said, quote, if you're black, you don't go to Orange County, especially not San Clemente. Apparently a lot easier to get arrested there. Orange County, yeah, it's a little light there. So this is a lot. Now, his dad, Richard Young, Titus's dad, blamed concussions from football for his son's severe mental problems. That is what the Orange County Sheriff's Deputy wrote in a report when he was talking to his dad. He said, the report said, a police report said,
Starting point is 01:27:52 Richard told me his son often acts catatonic and that he would not be able to speak coherently to me. Now, his ex-girlfriend and mother of his baby here had already broken up with him. now tries to get a restraining order. She said that her parents pushed for it and she said, but Young had never harmed her or never threatened her or anything like that, but her parents want to be restraining her. You can't have a wild daddy
Starting point is 01:28:17 around the baby at the moment. Let him grow up a little bit. If he's getting progressively crazier too, he's unpredictable at that point. You don't know. So anyway, she said in the application for the restraining order, Young has been clinically diagnosed with a mental disorder and I'm afraid of what
Starting point is 01:28:33 he's capable of doing. He will say things like, quote, I understand why O.J. killed his wife. Oh, Jesus. God. Especially if an NFL player says that to you. You take that shit seriously. A guy that's got clinically diagnosed mental health issues and he's sitting here telling you, you know. He didn't do it like Chris Rock either. He didn't say like, fuck another man driving your car, living your house, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:29:00 You know, I understand. He didn't say it that way. Right. He said, I understand why he did it. In an argument, I understand why O.J. killed his wife. And you're like, oh, shit. Oh, you just said crime of passion is what you feel right now. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Okay. Jesus. Crime of passion is in your heart. Yeah, at this moment. She said, he's gotten mad and yelled at my neighbors and tried to fight multiple people that he doesn't even know. Oh, boy. She worried about the text messages he sent her, describing himself as, quote, The king.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Oh. Do you? Where tell is your kingdom, sir? Interesting. We've had a couple people say they were president before. Yeah, I can be a booji said he was president. Again. This might be a thing that that is common with mental health of this special.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And another thing they all have. Ideas. Yeah. And especially if you started kind of grandiose to begin with. And then you've gotten hit in the head a lot. Right. head injuries really exacerbate this. Huh.
Starting point is 01:30:05 So she said she didn't think he wanted to get help. Okay. Young, by the way, wrote in his diary about the Orange County incident. What I was hearing led me to Orange County into a multi-million dollar home. Something was telling me to go get on the freeway and drive. Oh, I'm so glad he's been through therapy. Somebody told him, when things happen, write them down. I guarantee that's why he has this diary.
Starting point is 01:30:32 It's possible. He might also just be trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. That's possible, certainly. But the way he worded that stinks of a therapist telling him, look, if we want to get to the bottom of this, every time something happens, write down your thoughts. And I don't think he realizes that the thought is not fucking voices. That's not what we're trying to figure out.
Starting point is 01:30:56 It's two ends of the spectrum, though. it's either a attempt at therapeutic thing and understanding, or crazy people write diaries. There's that too. Very crazy people write diaries because they think their thoughts are super special. Yeah. And they also think that when you write down the thought, perhaps people are looking at me crazy when I'm explaining this to them
Starting point is 01:31:21 because I'm leaving something out. But if I write it down while it happens, all of it's fresh. Then I can recite it to them. They don't recognize that those words are the exact same words that they're going to say in three days. Exactly. So he's either had a good amount of therapy or not nearly enough therapy, one of the two. Somewhere in the middle there. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:31:41 It's it. So around midnight, he entered a condominium in San Clemente through an unlocked sliding glass door on the second floor. He climbed up to the fucking second floor. Scaled the house. Yep. Bill Platos, who's an Army veteran and real estate broker, heard footsteps on his. hardwood floors. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:59 He grabbed a Model 94 Winchester from under his bed. Oh, my God. And when Titus burst into the bedroom, he said he almost pulled the trigger. He said he almost just shot him, but instead he yelled. He said, hey, and that's when Titus ran away. Yeah, four-for did it right out the door. Almost shot his ass, but didn't. So the Orange County Sheriff's deputies chased him through the neighborhood and tackled him
Starting point is 01:32:22 on the front porch of another home. During the scuffle, Titus grabs one deputy's throat and close. and others' hand before they get him handcuffed. Oh, that's assault. He denied everything to the deputies, including being arrested while he's in the police station. Why the fuck else are you here then if we didn't arrest you, Titus? Who brought you, who put those handcuffs on you? Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:44 He told them he couldn't hear because of, quote, selective listening. I don't know what that is. Selective listening. Selective hearing is a thing. Selective listening. He claimed he. didn't remember anything because of too many concussions in the NFL, and then he challenged a deputy to a fight. A fair fight. Yeah, yeah. Let's fight. I don't remember anything. I was in the
Starting point is 01:33:07 NFL. I have selective listening. You mean selective hearing. No, no, no, no, no. Selective hearing is when you choose what you want to hear. My body tells me what to listen to. Now, let's go outside. Now let's step outside, motherfucker. I've had about enough of your shit. What the fuck? What is happening? Wow. This is what? This is what. Holy shit. May 14th, 2013. Titus's father, Richard, tells two Detroit newspapers that his son suffers from a mental health disorder and desperately needs help. The owner of the home that Young broke into, allegedly broke into, told the TV station that he was loading the shotgun he keeps under his bed when Young approached his bedroom door.
Starting point is 01:33:49 When cops arrived at the scene, that's when they found him. This guy, though, the homeowner said, I feel sorry for him, and I'm sure glad he left and I didn't have to find out what's going to have. happen if he came in because I'm afraid I would have shot him. Yeah. And then you would have been sued into oblivion and there's all kinds of problems with that. You don't want that. Who the fuck wants brain all over their hardwood floors? I don't give a shit if you didn't care about the guy.
Starting point is 01:34:11 If there's no legal ramifications, I don't want to clean his corpse up out of my house. Period. Your day is fucked. Even if you didn't care at all. Even if you didn't care at all. I'd just like to get some sleep another day soon. You know what I mean? I don't want to see a man's head disappear and then have to try to curl up.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Even if that didn't bother you one bit, that's what I'm saying. Even if you were a serial killer, you go. The amount of Mr. Clean, I'm going to go through. The fucking, your whole day is fucked. Now you've got to call 911. They're going to come crime scene tape. They're going to talk to you. You've got to go out of the stage.
Starting point is 01:34:49 You're going to be there for 12 hours. I've got to process everything. You've got to take your gun away. You've got to take over your house. It's expensive. Your weekend is shit. I'm going to go through a whole box of fucking swifers. You got to get special shit for those hardwood floors.
Starting point is 01:35:04 That's not just, I got them. Trust me. You can't just pine saw that. No, you can't just put fucking Mr. Clean on top of that and mop it. Hell out of here, man. Your whole day, like I said, even if you were a serial killer, your whole day is ruined. You're so fucked. You still wouldn't want to shoot this person.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Freeze. I didn't put down the plastic. Come on, man. You're going to fuck my day. Can you go out in the backyard, like in the, the gravel that I could hose off so I could shoot you. The rain will wash away. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Now, Richard Young had said he told the paper that he had took his son out for coffee earlier that day and that he appeared happy and was laughing. However, later that day, he said he was going out to his car to get his cell phone and then just drove off. Wow. Richard Young, his dad, said
Starting point is 01:35:49 we knew that something had happened to him or he was locked up again. His mind is not capable enough to go out and deal with society because of this situation. What the? Fuck. He said his son has been described the antidepressant Seroquel, which was used to treat bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Shit's strong. Yeah, that's what he needs. He needs something, right? He said, quote, I hope they just forgive Titus because this ain't none of Titus. It wasn't none of his fault. I look at my son right now. I don't see my son. That's not my son.
Starting point is 01:36:21 I know my son. Okay. He said he couldn't remember the name of the disorder. son suffers from, but that it's caused when the brain is compressed into the front of a person's skull. He claims his son changed after suffering a concussion in 2011, his rookie season. The lions didn't list him as suffering a concussion, however, because he didn't tell them. He said that his son's treatment could take six months or less if he was dedicated to the treatment, but he hasn't been taking his medication as prescribed. They said he's not
Starting point is 01:36:53 dealing with it the way it should be. If the judge gives him a court order, then he's maybe he'll get the help he needs. And the problem is, too, with bipolar people is they oftentimes don't take their medicine because they like the mania. Because manias feel fucking great. That's why people do Coke. That's a mania. They love that shit.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Drink a whole bunch of coffee and you figure, do it. That's what they like. Imagine that all the time and that people, they like it. They're like, I don't want this to go away. I feel great. I got so much done. I painted the picture and I wrote a fucking opera. It's all shit.
Starting point is 01:37:26 But they think. that's great because they're going off on a fucking mania. So that's why when they have the depression, that's when they don't mind taking the meds. But when they have the mania, they're like, I don't want to stop this. This is great. This is what's about. Totally.
Starting point is 01:37:41 So that's how it goes. Brandon Marshall said, a guy like Titus, I hear people say his career is over. Well, first of all, it's not really about his career right now. It's about his life. True. Marshall, who had the same problems here, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:57 Marshall told ESPN, months back, I wanted to get my hands on Titus, just sit down with him and possibly walk in him into the doors of the same program I was in. But I think that there were some things in the way that kept us both for moving forward. And I'm disappointed in that because since then, it's just gotten worse. And one of the things I stress was without proper treatment, it's just going to make things worse. Yeah. Yeah. People are, other players are like tweeting that they're praying for them and shit. that. We don't know his problems. People do dumb things and mess up every day and mess up great
Starting point is 01:38:32 opportunities. He's not the only one. Just like them, he needs help. This is Tori Smith, the Ravens wide receiver. Yeah. But he's not going to get the help and that's the problem. He won't take it. He won't accept it. He doesn't get it. He thinks he knows better. And that's part of that NFL wide receiver thing is I'm special. Right. I'm better than you. I've been told how than I have them. I can handle it because I catch footballs. Because I can handle anything. I can handle a grown man trying to tackle me. I'm not afraid of that. I'm not Stafford's second choice behind Calvin Johnson. You understand that? Yeah, I mean maybe third with Burleson there, but it's possible, at least in the top three.
Starting point is 01:39:15 So May 16, 2013, that's when Maldonado, the mother of the son, Titus Jr. files for a permanent restraining order says that he has threatened her now. So now it's to the next level. This is not good. May 26, 2013, it gets weirder. Okay, I'll read from this article. The strange odyssey of former Detroit Lions wide receiver Titus Young took another odd detour Friday when Young, who has been jailed since May 11th, heard that he would be charged with three new counts bringing his total up to 11. The three new counts were mentioned today at a pretrial hearing in Orange County Superior Court. The Detroit Free Press reports the counts are attempted residential burglary, a felony, and misdemeanor counts of obstruction and vandalism.
Starting point is 01:40:03 His attorney said that it's from that attempted burglary. He wasn't burglaring. He didn't know what he was doing. Yeah. Yada, yada, yada. But his bail has been increased and all sorts of shit like that. The prosecutor said Mr. Young poses a danger to the community. And basically they're saying whatever the bail amount is,
Starting point is 01:40:24 his family doesn't seem inclined to get him out of custody. They kind of want him in custody getting help. That's, you know, what they're talking about here. So that's very interesting. So they said they don't know what's going on. The people at the jail said, or the prosecutor said that's between Titus and his family. And they said, and they think that it's best that he stay in jail right now. And he said, yes.
Starting point is 01:40:51 So in court Friday, Young appeared inside a protective cage wearing inmate orange and was addressed by the judge. Good morning, sir. He doesn't reply. Yeah. Says to Titus, can you hear me? And he doesn't reply. Oh, boy. He just sits there.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Then he said, are you Titus Demetrius Young? No reply. So then he calls the attorneys to the sidebar and said, what are we doing here? During the next 12 minutes, they said Young stood in attention, his head till. his eyes closed most of the time. At one point, during the long private discussion between the judge and the attorneys, Young's father called out to him and he didn't reply to him either. Okay. So they said that it's Young's right to remain silent if he really wants to.
Starting point is 01:41:39 I mean, he's his lawyer, so he's like, I don't know. But he probably should at least acknowledge to the fucking judge what's going on here. finally June 6th 2013 after 27 days in prison he is released after posting 10% of his bond his family had refused to bail him out saying that you know he needs to get some goddamn help and he wasn't getting help so now he's just out wandering the streets which is great the NFL is trying to get ahead of this thing oh boy this is an article in the paper line NFL reached out to help Young before his arrest last month. Hey, look, we tried to help him.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Oh? That's what they're trying to say. They said when the NFL first reached out to Titus Young, he had not yet punched his teammate, intentionally lined up wrong during a game, or been arrested three times in less than a week. That all came later. But the NFL says it tried to assist Young 18 months ago around the time when he was wrapping up his season with Detroit, his rookie season.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Back then, he had a few signs of. of being the character risk teams feared he might be coming out of college, because he sat out almost to one year for disciplinary problems here, obviously. Troy Vincent, who's a former, what, Dolphins wide receiver? Yeah. Okay. Or was he a defensive back? I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:43:03 I don't know. Who was the NFL senior vice president for player engagement, said Young rejected several offers of help after someone close to him contacted the league. So they're going, hey, look, we tried. Yeah. Literally what they're doing here, which is pretty funny. They're automatically going for PR. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Which is fucking wild. His coach also said, Robinson, his high school coach, said he shouldn't be out on the streets. He said, you've got a loose cannon out there that could go off at any time. Yeah. I would say so. It's weird. He tried to break into a tow yard. He's out of his mind.
Starting point is 01:43:40 I'm scared to death. So he's released June 9. 2013, postponed, and here he goes. So, it was 50,000 bucks, by the way.
Starting point is 01:43:53 He's a lot. He's got four felony charges and seven misdemeanors in Orange County that he's facing and all this type of shit. I'm wondering, too, because the NFL is like,
Starting point is 01:44:06 that's their whole take on it as, well, we tried. Yeah. Now, his dad disagrees. His dad said, they never treated my son and he just kept on playing. I think it just got worse. Everything just started tumbling down.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Because they don't know to shit till you can't play well anymore. Yeah. And all they did was cut him because of his behavior. They didn't do anything to help. Yeah. No, that's what I mean. They said, do you want help? He said, no, they went, all right, never mind, cut him.
Starting point is 01:44:34 And that was it. And then let another team sign him. There should be something that you tell the league at that point where this guy needs fucking help. Don't just pass your, pass them on. They treated him like a priest who diddled a kid, and they're like, we'll just put him in another parish. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Just move him. It's fine. It'll take five years for that shit to catch up to him again. We'll move him again. His coach Robinson also said that he was still telling him they're not giving me the ball and I'm better than Calvin Johnson. Oh, boy. Robinson said, I said Titus, you're not as good as Calvin Johnson.
Starting point is 01:45:04 I could tell then I could see a change. That's his head coach, not the assistant coach. So the judge grants the request for a permanent. restraining order for the ex-girlfriend based on the now I know why OJ killed his wife comments. June 25th, 2013, Titus misses his court hearing. He's a no-show in Newport Beach, California. The judge listened to an explanation from Young's lawyer and decided not to issue an arrest warrant, which is awfully fucking lucky. That's a good goddamn lawyer if you got him out of that. So July 3rd, that was June 23rd.
Starting point is 01:45:42 July 3rd is his next court date and guess what he does? It's gone. Then fucking show up again. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So now he's going to be in deep shit. This is a second no show in a row. Yeah, that's not good.
Starting point is 01:45:55 The judge is awfully pissed off about that. He meets with the prosecutor and Titus's lawyer privately for five minutes then went on the record saying to Titus's lawyer, I see your client is not behind you. He gave him.
Starting point is 01:46:12 the reason said the reason for the absence would be considered confidential and put in a confidential file. He also continued to hold a $100,000 bench warrant on Young, meaning he's not a fugitive but could be subject to arrest if he fails to show up for his next scheduled court appearance. We, three times, that's it. Fool me once, fool me twice, but three times is really the one here. Jesus Christ, man. But at this point, he said, his lawyer said he's safe. He's still suffering from concussions. So I think what the lawyer told him, I think he's in a hospital for mental issues. That's why he's not here.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Okay. That's why they haven't issued an arrest warrant for him, I believe. So August 7th, his next court date, the third one. This is the one should be no problem. He doesn't show up again. Oh, Jesus. Okay. He is given another excused absence, though, for this trial.
Starting point is 01:47:08 He would continue the $100,000. or bench warrant. He's in a place, they think. That's what the judge thinks. That's what his lawyer is telling the judge anyway. He's in a facility. He's out of his mind. See all these crazy ass charges? He's fucking crazy and there's a reason why he's somewhere.
Starting point is 01:47:24 So August 13th, 2013, people don't know where the hell he is at this point. The judge allows the defense to approach the bench to answer a question. Where's Titus Young? They all have a big talk about it. The judge said,
Starting point is 01:47:40 is the last time. I'm satisfied that Mr. Young is not trying to take advantage of being in custody or defy the court's rulings, but I'm going to have to get him here in the courtroom at some point. That's that. Outside the courtroom, the attorney for Young
Starting point is 01:47:57 says that Young is in treatment, then pauses and says he's undergoing treatment, which sounds more professional. Yeah, what's the difference? I don't know. Sounds more professional, I guess. It's all I can say. I guess that in treatment could mean that he's in a facility undergoing could mean outpatient. He's at home. We don't know. Undergoing. It just sounds good. He's
Starting point is 01:48:16 being treated. We don't know where. Yeah. So, wow. They said that people that know him, here's Lowe, who is the assistant coach and then the head coach of his high school team, said he was arrogant, a troublemaker and always pushing boundaries, but he was never cruel or criminal. They said, he said, I'm not saying this because I love the kid. He's never been like that. He's a smart dude, a little bit wild, but that stuff, that's not him. He said, I'm happy that he's finally getting some help. I'm hoping it's not too late. I get asked every day, what's wrong with him?
Starting point is 01:48:49 And I say, I don't know, but it's bigger than what you think it is. All right. So they said that he was in an inpatient and safe with his family, but describes the conversation as one-sided here, Young's lawyer said, meaning I talked to him. He didn't really talk to me. They said that he wasn't. I wouldn't say where Titus was, but his distinction from between being in treatment and undergoing treatment is a telling sign.
Starting point is 01:49:17 He also says he doesn't know if he's going to report to the courthouse on August 27th. Don't know if he'll be released yet. So, holy shit, man. This is fucking crazy. He's in there, and he does. His families around him, and they visit him and wherever he is. And, you know, he gets a lot of well-wishers because there are people that want him to succeed. because he was a nice guy before
Starting point is 01:49:40 and they don't want him to be in the situation he's in. You know what I mean? There's even some people that want to give him a job. It really is. Some people want to hook him up. Sure. You want to help him out.
Starting point is 01:49:53 You feel bad for him and you want to encourage him. Especially one particular visitor who came and knocked on the door. It was Vince McMahon. Oh, my God. Former CEO of WWE. And he says, How is it you've come to arrive?
Starting point is 01:50:16 here. Why are you here? What do they do to you? What did they do to you? They're saying there's something wrong with you right now? You're perfect. This is the exact state I want a wrestler and you're perfect.
Starting point is 01:50:34 You're already broken in. You're like year three. You're ready to be a star right now. You come in. Oh, you come in. Oh, boy. We're going to tell you what. I'll tell you. This is what we're going to do, okay? We're going to give you a character. You're going to be, you're going to be, you're going to be the crazy guy. That's what you're going to be. The crazy guy. He just come in
Starting point is 01:50:55 and you yell at people for no reason. You come in, you slap the ref across the fate. It's the first thing you do. You slap the ref across the face. Then you blow bubbles for no reason. You just end right in the ring. How do you spit? You do that. Yeah, make them float off your tongue. Remember when you did that when you were a kid, make them do that. That's right. And I'm black in my, Yeah, that's right. And then dry hump, go ahead and dry hump Jim Ross when you're done with that if you could. That'd be perfect. A mash a plate of crazy chicken in his face.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Oh, boy. You're going to be the craziest chicken around. I'll tell you that right now. You'll be called the crazy chicken. And then Titus, Justin, he's ready to sign the dotted line. Poof, he's gone. Titus realizes, I don't think he was actually here. He disappeared into the smoke detector.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Oh, shit. That's who's been in the smoke detector. factor. So he skips court again on the 27th. That's not good. Now the judge issues an arrest warrant for him. Yeah, that's the fourth time. So that's a little much. He's got restraining orders, arrest orders, all this type of stuff. December 19, 2013, the prosecutor says his case is now close to resolution. Oh. Yeah, the prosecutor said, I don't believe it will go to try. That'd be good for everybody involved, which is crazy. He shows up at court.
Starting point is 01:52:24 He says no comment to all the reporters. He says, you never know, negotiations can fail sometimes, but it looks pretty good that we're not going to have a trial. Our primary concern is for the safety of the community, is what they say. All right. Yeah. April 29, 2014, he's hospitalized. his trial is delayed again. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Yeah, this is a lot here. Again, all his lawyer will say is he's receiving treatment and is in a safe place. All right. So who knows what's going on here. They said they hope to come to an agreement with the district attorney about the case before it goes to trial. His lawyer said that would be the goal. All right. I mean, it's like, yeah, you don't even know who the guy is anymore.
Starting point is 01:53:11 How's he going to make a deal? Yeah, what do you do? Yeah. At this point, it's like you feel. sorry for the guy because I don't think he knows where the fuck he is or what he's doing. I don't think he knows where a lot of things are. This is not intentional. No.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Outside of his coach's house and the location of the crazy chicken, I don't think he's got much going on up there. I think there's a small problem. I mean, Christ, him, his ex-girlfriend, he's got a kid. You know what I mean? This is sad. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. No kidding. But not nearly as bad.
Starting point is 01:53:42 What? As I feel. for Titus Young, early career recruiter in the Urbana-Champaign, Illinois area. He works for electric power engineers and went to Eastern Illinois University. Titus Young, management of international business in China. Oh, he's in Honolulu, Hawaii. He went to school in China. He works for BAT.
Starting point is 01:54:06 He says, hey there, I'm Titus. That's his first thing. And finally, Titus Young, president of Care, 24 group. And that's no idea. Britannia social care he worked for. He does public speaking and shit like that. Britain?
Starting point is 01:54:23 Is that a miracle? No. No, no. That's in the United States. It says no city, but in the United States. So, not bad. Wow. Yeah, I didn't expect that many of those, huh? Fascinating. So he's hospitalized. Then July 14th, 2014. So he's hospitalized in April. They're
Starting point is 01:54:40 working out, trying to work out a deal. July 14th, he's arrested again. What? On a felony and four misdemeanors. He's arrested at 10 a.m. on July 9th and was still being held on the 14th at the Twin Towers Correctional Facility in Los Angeles with a bail amount of $105,000. Wow. He's facing one count of battery with serious bodily injury, and this is what everybody's been afraid of. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:08 He hadn't lashed out physically in people till now. Yeah. which is a felony and four counts of battery on school, park, or hospital property, all misdemeanors. Oh. Wow. This is fucking crazy. Okay. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:55:23 July 15th, the next day it comes out. He attacked all sorts of people. They say that he's attacked five different people on five different occasions in less than two months. Really? That's why they're charging him with five counts, one of felony battery for misdemeanor battery. According to the documents, he attacked both men and women. Cops say his first attack took place on May 28th, then on June 1st, June 26th, July 1st, July 8th. Just all the time.
Starting point is 01:55:54 All the time. They say the most serious attack was July 8th, so it escalated, too. That's when Titus knocked out another man who had to be hospitalized and was charged with felony battery. July 8th, 2014. Let's talk about one of these people. We'll go over the list of people he beat up. Holy shit. He had been accused of, this was in early July 2014.
Starting point is 01:56:22 He was in Martin Luther King Jr. Community Hospital. He was accused of assaulting four previous people in the last two months. And his lawyer, Brian Hurwitz, visited the family in the hospital. Okay. Young wrote in his diary, I told my mother, don't bring my attorney. To my surprise, there he is. Uh-oh. Now, when his lawyer told Young he couldn't go home, he punched his own attorney.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Oh, my God. Which is the dumbest fucking thing you could do. I don't want you here anyway. Knocked him unconscious and broke his nose. Whoa. Yeah. Dumb. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:56:59 I guess they were meeting at the hospital there and he got super angry and that's it. Stop. According to the report, Young stood up from his chair, punched Hurwitz several times to the face. Wow. After being punched by Young, Hurwitz said he lost consciousness. After regaining consciousness, Hurwitz said he was bleeding profusely from his nose and that his nose was swollen and felt broken. He also had pain in his forehead and jaw area. He was treated by paramedics and taken to another hospital.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Yeah. We can't tell you here? No, because then the Titus can attack him again. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. According to the report, Young was asleep due to medication given to him by hospital staff when the police compiled their report. They gave him a sedatives to not attack anybody else. So he's arrested again here.
Starting point is 01:57:50 This is $105,000 bail. Okay, they're going to talk about this. Jesus Christ. His father is still saying it's the NFL's fault too, which is partially. Yeah. He said he's had a problem since his concussion. He said that the CAT scan shows that. He's had problems. It's been going on a long time. We don't know what we're going to do right now. So December 4th, 2014, he's facing up to nine years in prison. Wow. For all of this. This is four counts of battery, including a felony as the fifth. And he's going to stand trial. And, yeah, February 1st, 2015, it, The headline is Titus Young suffering from brain injury reportedly caused by football hits. He's seeing specialists at a mental health facility, and they said that he's in San Diego, and it's all about football hits to the head.
Starting point is 01:58:51 They say that his symptoms include hypervigilance, mood swings, and emotional instability, and more. They say that all of these are as results of young taking hits to the head for long periods of time without a doubt. That's his lawyer speaking, by the way, who is not the same lawyer as the one he punched. That guy's gone. He took his retainer and left. Yep. His lawyer said he's trusting us and he's allowing a family member to stay with him to provide support. We should have good, accurate diagnosis and a plan of how to address his treatment in the next 21 days.
Starting point is 01:59:27 May 5th, 2015, he, here he is in court. He is, wow, he's going to be given, he's going to be sentenced here. He is sentenced to, you, sir, may fuck off five years probation. What? He got five years probation and one year of in-treatment, inpatient treatment and therapy at the Crosby Center in-Condito, California. He's already been there for three months, so he's got some time served there. He's almost done in Eskine deal? He'll get 99 days of credit served, so he could be a free man by next February.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Oh, Jesus. Yep. He said, quote, I feel good. That's what he said, told everyone. I feel good, too. You didn't get anything. They say it builds itself as a non-12-step drug and alcohol rehab center as well as brain injury treatment center that's helped a bunch of NFL players
Starting point is 02:00:24 prepare their claims for benefits under the NFL's concussion lawsuit settlement. Okay, that's good. So Young could have been sentenced to three years in state prison for breaking his attorney's nose, or he could have been ordered back for testing or whatever it is. After making the
Starting point is 02:00:40 ruling and hearing Young agree to the terms, the judge stared at him and said, I can't tolerate any violation from you. You should not consider this a first chance or a second chance. You've had a lot of chances. This is your last chance. This is the biggest chance you've been given and you won't get another one from me. If I learn that you've in any way harmed anyone,
Starting point is 02:00:59 you'll do time. So now he's the people at the Crosby Center trumpet him as an ideal patient and non-threat. Yeah. I guess under treatment he does fine. Very well. Yeah. They also said that he was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic and bipolar and that his violent behavior could be attributed to over-medication of drugs he didn't need and to traumatic brain injury as a result of a concussion suffered while playing for the lines. At that point, though,
Starting point is 02:01:29 it's pretty fucking academic. What's the particular thing that's wrong with them? Whether it's caused by mental illness or caused by brain injuries, this is the result we have. Is he allergic to Seraquel? What is causing the... That's like going to a Chinese buffet,
Starting point is 02:01:43 getting the shits later and going, I don't know if it was the pork fried rice or the beef and broccoli. Does it fucking matter? You're shitting. Probably all. Pretty academic at this point, what the difference is. So they said about this, one of his counselors said,
Starting point is 02:01:57 we're not seeing the irritability, the anger, the acting out, the violence. We've seen cooperation. We've seen a genuine investment in all forms of his treatment, both in individual sessions and group sessions. We're very optimistic. I predict we'll all celebrate the restructure of a fine young man. Oh, we're going to restructure him in the next fucking six weeks because he's getting right to fucking. celebrate it.
Starting point is 02:02:20 All right. And then celebrate it. Wow. They said they questioned, the judge questioned all these guys from the facility and everything, asking about how they would be able to make sure Young didn't flee the center. And they said, well, there's only so much we can do. It's not a lock up facility. If you wanted to walk out, he can walk out.
Starting point is 02:02:37 But the one guy said, quote, I'll go after him myself. I love this kid. He runs a 4-4. You're not going after him. Drug counselor. Yeah. Jesus Christ. You're probably an ex-addict.
Starting point is 02:02:50 You can't catch it. What I mean. He's got his lungs broken down. He said he was over-medicated and he went wild. This case was misdiagnosed all along and what happened was a result of that. But this is a good kid. He's not going to try to run away. He's not going to be a problem.
Starting point is 02:03:06 I'd adopt this kid. Is that right? I'd adopt him. So here he is. He's at the Crosby Center and he is a psychologist at the center said that they, like I said, he's been misdiagnosed all the time. He's been over-medicated. You know, and this is, it's silly there.
Starting point is 02:03:26 So apparently the judge warned it's his last opportunity, as we know. Apparently, it's a big, it's not a big place, this center. It's a 4,000 square foot house, basically. Oh. Just looks like a big house. Group home. Yeah. Yeah, like a big house.
Starting point is 02:03:42 Young described the center in his diary as, quote, prison. Now, you haven't been to prison, have you, sir? I don't think he has. No. So they said they shuttle patients between the home and a nearby office. Young participated in group therapy with former NFL players, in addition to neuropsychiatric tests, biofeedback, brain scans, and acupuncture. One of the center's employees said, the guy is a teddy bear.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Oh, really? Yeah, Crosby is described on its own website as the premier destination for treating serious brain-related disorders. However, in March 2015, this is fucking hilarious, the NFL Players Association issued a fraud alert describing the director Burns as having accumulated numerous convictions for felony fraud-related violations. He called that slander. Now, as soon as I heard, quote,
Starting point is 02:04:42 neuro-psychiatric test, biofeedback, brain scans and acupuncture. I said, that sounds like bullshit. Yeah, that sounds like quacks. Yeah. That sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Yeah. I don't know if it's bullshit, but in my opinion, it sounds like bullshit. I mean, usually when you link in acupuncture, it's not necessarily rooted in fucking science.
Starting point is 02:05:05 Yeah, it's rooted in, do you have an old Chinese man I can talk to? It's rooted in, maybe this will help. Yeah, let's give it a shot. I'm sure it helps some people, not saying it doesn't. But it's the place. When you put all those things together, it gives it a general ring of quackery in my brain. In the hospital, they will not give you acupuncture, nor will they give you chiropractory. And I don't know what biofeedback is either.
Starting point is 02:05:37 Sounds like bullshit. It might be a completely legitimate thing. Sounds like bull. They should name it something else because it sounds like a big load of bullshit that one of those like athletic centers in Scottsdale does. Like you come in here or you do biofeedback.
Starting point is 02:05:52 We got 48 year old guys with 46 fucking inch vertical jumps now because of the biofeedback. We got guys coming in here. It's 112 inside and we light some candles. It's great. It's biofeedback. Biofeedback.
Starting point is 02:06:05 So a court filing to oversee the almost $600,000 left in his bank account, I can't believe he still has money left. How much? $600,000. Oh. Oh, he made a few million, so that's not bad. That's, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:17 His mother and sister said his conditions included acute psychosis and schizophrenia related to traumatic brain injury. They said as part of his treatment, they were stabilizing him on the right medication, despite one of the guys saying that the testimony in court saying he had no medication was needed. But he's taking medication. Because if he said medications needed, then the judge would have to say, will he take it or not? So he just said there's no medication needed. The probation report said the center discharged Young after he assaulted a staff member. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Burns, one of the guys at the center, denied any assault occurred. No calls for service by the Escondido Police Department or San Diego Sheriff's Department matched such an incident. Young no longer taking medication, Burns said, and returned to South Los Angeles. Now, Young wrote in his diary, my mindset during the time. wasn't focused and disciplined to go back to the NFL. Obviously, I had no business back in the hood. I have to move far away from California. Hey, look at this.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Yeah. Because they send him back to just his neighborhood where he's just going to be a fucking mess and no people is terrible and feel terrible. Let's see. Here is February 2016. Okay. This is why he didn't belong in the hood here. Okay. This is a guy named Marcus Garland.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Sure. Like around your tree, Garland. I'll read this article. Sweat made Young's chest glossy despite the January chill. This isn't good. That says, what is this? Well, that says, A, he's sweating in January, and B, he's shirtless in public, which is also bad. He's running or on drugs?
Starting point is 02:08:03 When he encountered Marcus Garland near an intersection, he rained punches on his long-time neighbor's head. Just ran up to him and started drilling him? No words, no warning. Just started fucking raining blows down upon him. They had never fought. They'd never argued. Garland later testified.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Not even earlier in the day when Young took Garland's bike without permission and announced that he had, quote, urinated on himself. He took his bike and said, I pissed myself and then rode away on his bike. Oh, boy. Okay. Garland said the blows felt as though they were coming from a little. a piece of metal. The beating continued after he tumbled to the ground.
Starting point is 02:08:43 He needed eight stitches to close the gash on the right side of his head. L.A. police officers found Young hiding behind a large plant in his parents' backyard a half block away. Richard Young told officers his son tried to fight him, the probation report said. He then
Starting point is 02:08:59 tried to fight the officers too before they took him into custody. Shit. Wow. He was bailed out at 2.25 a.m. and driven back to the Crosby Center. I'd say him somewhere else. Later that morning, Escondido police responded to the center for a welfare check on Young because he was, quote, acting aggressive, yelling and speaking to a relative in an aggressive manner.
Starting point is 02:09:22 He wasn't taken into custody and then surfaced that evening in downtown Carlsbad. Oh, boy. He harassed an employee for drugs at a clothing store. Huh? Put that together. It's a very nice place, by the way. Carlsbad and you're just wandering in going, who's going? got, who's holding?
Starting point is 02:09:40 Give me drugs. Like, yeah, I have pants. This is an Abercrombie, sir. Then tried to start a fight, broke a video game machine at the Pizza Port Brewing Company, and attempted to fight passers-by in the street. Just anyone passing by. Police arrested him again,
Starting point is 02:09:59 and he was later charged with five crimes, including battery, making criminal threats and vandalism. Yeah. Holy shit. This is fuck, so he's arrested. that again obviously charged with felony battery with serious bodily injury following this beating the shit out of that poor Garland guy
Starting point is 02:10:16 could face up to four years in prison and an additional five years due to his prior arrest too so he can get nine years because he was on goddamn probation. April 10th, 2017. I believe he's pleading guilty. He pleads no contest to one count of felony battery causing serious bodily injury.
Starting point is 02:10:37 So he pleads no contest and the judge sentences him to you, sir, may fuck off four years in prison. Whoa. Now, all right. He can't go to a prison. He's going to be a fucking problem in there. He's going to end up getting a much longer sentence just by being in prison. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Just the way he's living in there. It's going to cause somebody in there's going to be crazy. Yeah, he can't follow rules. And he's violent now. And he's strong and young. And you can't have young crazies around other young crazies. You're going to have young crazy warfare. It's fucking wild.
Starting point is 02:11:17 You need so much help. That is insane. Well, we'll talk about this. Here's an article January 29th, 2018, and it says mental illness or brain injury, driven by voices to commit crime. Titus Young is in prison, but still believes he could play in the NFL. He still thinks he is, he still thinks he's taking Megatron spot. He still thinks so. What the fuck, man.
Starting point is 02:11:40 I'll read this article. The former NFL wide receiver with Fear God etched in his biceps and his mother's name written over his heart opened the worn black composition book with faded newspaper photograph of retired NBA player Meta World Peace taped to the cover. That's who he's got on the tape to the cover. That's his idol. That's his idol. Terrell Owens and fucking Ron Artax. Titus Young was once classified among the most dangerous, at the Twin Towers Correctional Facility in Los Angeles and spent most of his days in lockdown.
Starting point is 02:12:13 In early 2017, he started to write. He said at one point, I've made so many mistakes I have become a little ashamed of being Titus Young. A lot of the stuff I've done was out of my control during the time. I was hearing voices. Hearing voices is no joke. It's actually very scary. I feel like someone is trying to come kill me. He's got his diaries, 141.
Starting point is 02:12:37 pages, starts on February 2nd and finishes about two months later. He hopes to turn it into a book. Whoa. Wow. He says that he asked relatives to share excerpts with the Los Angeles Times rather than agree to do an interview. Entries meander from one topic to another, some written in textbook cursive, others in printing that's barely decipherable.
Starting point is 02:13:02 That's where a state of mind is. He wrote about wanting to be a better father to his young son. about gnawing hunger, cold and feeling homeless during four months in lockdown. Also about mental illness and about football. He said, quote, God is great still being behind bars because this has given me a chance to share my side of the story, which coming from the public has been so negative. Sure. Wow. He wrote, I want to be free.
Starting point is 02:13:28 I believe God has a plan for me. And deep down, I believe that plan is to dominate the NFL. Is that right? You are out of your. your fucking mind. He said, my fight or flight and my brain was off and that could be due to head trauma suffered while playing football. He said, all I know is I'm back to normal and I take good medication and I'm not ashamed
Starting point is 02:13:51 of it either. It's kind of hard for me to think wisely in sticky situations where I feel threatened. Taking the medicine allows my mood to be stabilized and helps with hearing voices. Yeah, I've heard voices as well. The voices came and came from the bipolar. It's usually when I let my brain relax and focus on others. I can kind of hear them. Okay.
Starting point is 02:14:13 Well, here's the thing. You've been removed from the NFL for five years. Five years battling brain stuff. You are in no position to, quote, unquote, dominate the NFL. Especially if you've gone to court a bunch of times saying I have brain injuries from the NFL. You're not going to go back and play again. Philip Rivers just came back to the NFL this weekend after five years out. He hasn't had brain injuries.
Starting point is 02:14:37 that he's been battling. And he can barely compete, let alone dominate. He's 45 fucking years old. His child has a child. He shouldn't be competing in the NFL at all. That's crazy. And he barely did. So it's fine.
Starting point is 02:14:52 So fuck. So they say his probation report reads, it's unfortunate if the defendant suffers from brain injury as a result of playing football. But it also noted that the Garland guy could have been severely injured or died due to being struck numerous times in the head. And the Garland guy told the probation officer he wanted Young to do time and blame the assault on drug use, not a brain injury, which you're not a fucking doctor. What do you know?
Starting point is 02:15:20 And you've been beaten up out the head and face. So now you're not reliable either. I don't know what to tell you. But who knows what it is? I'm sure there's drug abuse, but it's likely antipsychotics or something like that. It's probably not heroin. He's probably not unharrowe. Recreational.
Starting point is 02:15:35 No. Now, Ornstein, Remember his old marketing agent? He talked to Young a couple months ago and the conversation revolved around an NFL comeback. God damn. Ornstein told him to stay in shape, run sprint, stay out of trouble, you know, the usual shit,
Starting point is 02:15:51 but he said he didn't have the heart to tell him that returning to the league ain't ever going to happen. It's not happening. You've been out since 2012. Yep. His ex-girlfriend there, Maldonado, says, she thinks Young needs to get out of L.A., move somewhere secluded,
Starting point is 02:16:05 understand he's out of chances, and surround himself with. the right people. And be the best regional Kia salesman in the fucking country. Do it. You can do it. You can't, you know what? Go to that AT&T store. Yeah. Get up off the bench. Go move some iPhone 17s, babe. Move that shit. Yeah. You got this. You already spent time there. Why not? So they said that Robinson
Starting point is 02:16:27 is high school coach still wonders how someone with so much ability and such a magnetic personality could fall so far. Yeah. And he says he doesn't know what young can do for a living on the other side of a prison wall. Oh shit. Remember the guy whose house he broke into? I do. He said he can't shake that memory and doesn't believe this will end well at all. Well, I am so glad you didn't shoot him then because if you can't get over that, you certainly would not have gotten over a standing up his corpse.
Starting point is 02:16:56 Yeah. You wouldn't be able to do it mentally. He said, thank God, this is young in his diary. This is a title, an entry titled, I'm flawed. He said, thank God. Yeah, who is it? Thank God I have it all under control. So when I make this comeback to the league,
Starting point is 02:17:16 Roger Goodell and the rest will understand that athletes are not exempt in mental illness. We have to live with these differences for the rest of our life. When? He's saying when. When I'm back in the NFL, not if. December 20th, 2018, released from jail, get out. He's good now. He's paroled early from the state health.
Starting point is 02:17:37 care facility in Stockton. Wow. There he goes. He said having bipolar has pretty much torn down my life. It's been four years of fighting so many different behaviors. When I was first diagnosed, I didn't want to believe it because I felt my life was too perfect to have bipolar. Yep.
Starting point is 02:17:54 He said, I'm macho. I want to get back on the field. He said, thank God I have it all under control now. So when I make this comeback to the league, they'll all know. So we don't know what the fuck's been going on. From what we understand in reports that he has continued to struggle with legal and mental health issues, but I cannot find more arrests or anything like that. That's good. It may just be causing a scene and they put him back in a facility somewhere.
Starting point is 02:18:25 That could be it. As long as he's not raining blows upon fucking strangers. That would be great. I hope that he got a job, figured this out, and he's managing a medicine. somewhere that that handles this. But I have, oh boy, do I have a terrible feeling about this? Oh, this is, he's only 36. I don't like this at all. This is not
Starting point is 02:18:44 going to add one. He's already strangers and neighbors that he, people that he likes. Yeah. So I mean, he must be, I mean, he could be, I don't know his exact situation, but he could be like two days of saying, fuck taking my medicine away from. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:19:00 James, your brain does not get better as you age. No. It doesn't. It's only going to go worse. It gets So can't get enough of Titus Young. Oh, Jesus. Buckle up. He'll be right back. He'll be back.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Titus Young, 2011, five-star rookie card, auto patch. It's got the autograph. It's an autograph and it's got like the patch of a whatever the fuck, a patch of jersey on it. Oh, yeah, yeah. One of those. $300 are best offered. That's why. Yeah, it's one of those.
Starting point is 02:19:28 2011 tops Inception Titus Young, Jersey, Auto. It's another one of those. It's a numbered one. Different card, though. $3. and 99 cents. So I don't know. One's $300.
Starting point is 02:19:40 One's $3.99. I don't see much of a difference, but I'm not real big collector or that kind of shit. And then there's a 2011 Topps Game Day autograph Titus Young rookie card. And that is an autographed rookie card, 99 cents.
Starting point is 02:19:56 What the fuck? 99 cents. That might skyrocket if he hurt somebody. Well, if he killed somebody, oh, Jesus. So there you. you go everybody there is titus young you wanted arrest with billy martin how about
Starting point is 02:20:10 that shove these up your ass with these arrests we got and titus if you heard this and i'm sure you have all ample opportunity he's the he'll be up for that one scummy more than anything god damn for you so you don't come kill us yeah yeah I mean it's that for you as a human being but I also
Starting point is 02:20:26 don't want he's going to definitely be nominated for the most likely to find and kill us and most likely to have a second episode he's going to be up for a number of scummies this year this is this episode this episode might shoot this show to the moon when we are murdered by this man. Eventually, when we're murdered by one of our suspects, it'll catch on crime and sports. I love him already.
Starting point is 02:20:50 I root for him and I want him to get a day job and stop dreaming of the NFL faster than most people did. He's 36. I would hope he's out of his system now. So, yeah, that's crazy. I would like to say, too, by the way, February. February of 2006 is going to be our 10-year Crime and Sports anniversary.
Starting point is 02:21:11 We should do a 10-year scummies of, yeah. Well, it's going to be right around episode 500. Wow. It's going to be like line up to be because we got 10 episodes
Starting point is 02:21:22 and we got about, about 10 weeks to then. So we are good. It's going to be just about lining up. So we are going to make the 500th episode huge. I don't know what we're going to do, but we're going to make it a big. a big deal. Of the entire show.
Starting point is 02:21:37 No. No, no, no. We're going to do an episode. Then we'll do the scummies too. But yeah, we'll do a 10-year thing. Would like to ask you guys out there if you have anybody that you really want to hear about for the 500th episode. If there's anybody that you're really dying to hear about, who should
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