Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark - 5G: The Biggest Public Health Experiment in History | Stephanie Locricchio

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

We're surrounded by WiFi, Bluetooth, and 5G every day — so why haven't we heard what the research says about long-term exposure?Stephanie Locricchio, Senior Advocacy Manager at Children's Health Defense and founder of Wellness Warriors Revolution, joins us to break down the explosion of wireless technology and H.R. 2289 — a bill that could strip local communities of control over where towers go, including near schools and playgrounds. She explains why it matters and what families can do to push back.Thank you to our sponsors!TAYLOR DUKES WELLNESS: Use code "ALEXCLARK" for 10% off PALEOVALLEY: Use code ALEX for 15% off your first orderCOWBOY COLOSTRUM: Use code “ALEX” for 25% OFFGEVITI: Use code "ALEX" to get 20% off of your first purchasePUORI: Use code "ALEX" for 32% off Puori Creatine+ when you start a subscriptionJASPR: Use code "ALEX" to get $200 off your purchaseOur Guest:Stephanie LocricchioStephanie's Links:Personal IGFacebookChildren's Health Defense WebsiteCHD XCHD InstagramCHD YouTubeFOLLOW ALEX:Instagram |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @realalexclark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@cultureapothecary⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @yoalexrapz⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @RealAlexClark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcast |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to ‘Culture Apothecary’ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. New episodes drop 6pm PST/ 9pm EST every Monday and Thursday.DISCLAIMER: This content is for informational purposes only and is not medical advice. Always talk to a qualified healthcare professional for any health-related questions or decisions.

What should the average American know about buying a home that is really close to a cell tower? That exposure is real. You can't feel it. You can't see it. You can't smell it. It is impacting you. Things like nausea, dizziness, brain fog, headaches, insomnia. There's no long-term studies done on what happens when you have a generation of children growing up from cradle to grave exposed to RF radiation at all times.

We know that it causes harm. It's not a question. The question is, why? isn't the FCC or any of the governing agencies doing anything to make sure that what's happening right now is being regulated and looked at. We're now living inside a nonstop cloud of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, 5G towers, AirPods, smart homes, smart watches, baby monitors, wireless classrooms, and massive data infrastructure. And yet, most Americans have never been told what the long-term health data actually says about any of this,

or whether modern safety standards have kept up with the technology itself. At the same time, Congress is considering legislation called HR 22889 that could strip local communities of meaningful control over where exactly wireless towers are placed, and that includes near schools, neighborhoods, churches, and playgrounds. And despite how massive that sounds, most people have never even heard of this bill. Joining me today is Stephanie Laritio, senior advocacy manager at Children's Health Defense and founder of Wellness Warriors Revolution. Stephanie works directly with families and communities advocating for informed consent,

local control, and greater transparency around children's health and environmental exposures. Before we start, please leave a five-star review. Tell me who I should interview next. If you prefer video podcast, some of you do, watch this show on the real Alex Clark YouTube channel or Culture Apothecary on Spotify, which offers video. Please welcome 5G expert, Stephanie LaRiccio, senior advocacy manager at Children's Health Defense to Culture Apothecary. We're living in a world with 5G, Wi-Fi, smart homes, Bluetooth. When was the last time that any of this stuff was tested for safety data?

30 years. So the RF exposure guidelines have not been updated since the 90s. And I want you to go back in time with me and think about what our phones and our technology look like in the 90s. We had flip phones where you couldn't text at first. And then when you could, you had to hit the button like 17 times. You couldn't stream movies. You couldn't connect to Bluetooth.

you couldn't connect to Wi-Fi. Very basic functions. So if you look at the modern world and where we are with technology, CHD, the people that I'm affiliated, we're not anti-technology. We're just pro-safe technology and having updated guidelines that actually meet where we are in the real world and not looking at an outdated model that basically the studies were done in the 80s on monkeys and rats to just test for heat. There's no long-term studies done on what has. happens when you have a generation of children growing up from cradle to grave, essentially, and in the womb, exposed to RF radiation at all times, we know that it causes harm. It's not a question. The question is, why isn't the FCC or any of the governing agencies doing anything

to make sure that what's happening right now is being regulated and looked at to ensure that we're not creating long-term health issues that we know nothing about it? I mean, we know right now people have a spectrum of all types of issues ranging from headaches to dizziness to nausea to vomiting all the way to like brain fog which you know happens all the time but people have cancers infertility neurological issues learning disabilities like there's so many things that are happening now tens of thousands of studies proving harm and yet the FCC though they were asked to update and give us written explanation on why these outdated standards still prove that this is healthy for the environment and for humans.

Five years ago, this request was made. We still have received zero from them. I have so many questions just based on that. So one, what is RF? RF is radio frequency radiation. It could be wireless radiation. There's many different terms from it. But basically, it is the radiation that emanates from our personal devices,

from small cells, and from cell phone towers. Is the issue that updated testing on the long-term health effects of this technology isn't being done at all, or is it that it's being done, but it's not meaningfully being reflected in public policy or safety standards? It hasn't been done, to our knowledge, despite independent studies that show that there's harm. Our governing agencies, the FCC specifically, is not doing anything to update their guidelines, which is problematic because there's rapid proliferation of this technology. I mean, play the game with me of counting how many cell towers you see on a daily basis and how many more are popping up. So this technology is here and it comes at a cost. I mean,

people love having fast internet, being able to surf, do all these things. But there is a cost to human health, to children's health, and to the environment. And it's one that we're not looking closely enough at. So we really need to have studies that reflect the technology and the modern world that we're living in because it is not 1996 anymore. We're in 2026 and we are surrounded by this invisible toxin that is known to cause harm. And we don't know in 10, 20, 30, 40 years, it's kind of like that tobacco science. You know, we're just flying by the seat of our pants.

And the people who are going to pay the cost are the human beings that are living on this planet and the environment. What do the current wireless safety standards fail to account for? In your phone right now, if you go into the legal and regulatory language in your phone, it says that it was tested at a distance away from the body, right? So you see people walking around with their phones stuffed in their waistband,

in their bra, in their pockets, connected with their watches, their AirPods. So we don't have the updated safety standards looking at the modern world of our voluntary exposure, which is the devices that we purchase, that we buy, the things that we have in our house, combined with the involuntary exposure from all of these cell towers, small cells, and smart utility meters that are popping up everywhere. The combined radiation that we're exposed to between the voluntary and the involuntary exposure is off the charts. And there is no science that supports that this is healthy for humans or for the environment. What is your opinion on AirPods? Don't do it. I always tell people it's sort of like sticking your head in the microwave. So while it's convenient, I was on the treadmill

this morning in the hotel and I'm the only person in the hotel gym that has the wired headphones in. And of course, at some point, I'm walking very fast on the treadmill. My hand hits the wire and the wire comes out. The cell phone falls on the floor and everybody like turns and looks at me, like get to Maripods lady. And yes, it's convenient. But at the same time, you are putting this technology in your ear. That radiation is bouncing across your brain.

So it's like literally putting your head in a microwave. Very, very dangerous. My son doesn't own a pair. I tell people all the time in the gym when I'm talking to them to take them out to do something different. Going wired is the way to go. I always tell people distance as your friends. So keeping the phone off of your body wherever you can and making sure if you are listening to something, downloading the content, having the wires in your ear, it's not perfect, but it's definitely better. I've heard people say that these 5G towers are not for internet. What does that mean?

Basically what 5G means it's an evolution of the technology waves. So you have the LTE, the 5G. 5G, Basically, because it operates on a shorter wave, you need to have the towers be a lot closer to the end user. So there's a lot of privacy and surveillance concerns as far as like tracking, collecting data, things of that nature. My phone, though, it's 5G enabled. I disconnected the 5G and I'm running on LTE and I have zero issues with my cell phone service. So it's very interesting. When I was on 5G, I actually found that the service was worse. So there is something to that.

That's strange. And the 6G that they're developing right now has sensing capabilities. So it's been said that once 6G is deployed, it will actually have the capability to see through the walls of people's homes. How is that legal? That's the question. How is it legal? How is it allowed?

And who signed on for this? Because I know, yeah, okay, you want modern technology. You want to be able to surf the internet. But I didn't sign away my rights to privacy and my ability to operate inside of my home how I want to. I mean, these smart appliances, these smart appliances, these systems. smart utility meters, they're collecting data. How much water you take? When are you showering? You know, how many times did you open your refrigerator? What appliances you're using? It's wild.

What shocked you the most when you started researching this world and why did you start to care about this stuff to begin with? I started like you. So I was a food advocate. 2012 in Staten Island, New York, lands of the fried cheese. Nobody cares. Handing out GMO pamphlets, trying to educate parents in the PTA on the harms of feeding their children, this toxic poison food. And then through 2019, 2020, when vaccine mandates came down, I got very involved in the health freedom movement, started working for children's health defense. And one of my dear friends, Miriam Eckenfelds, who's a director of the CHDEMR and wireless program, she started like dripping on me some of the information about Wi-Fi and 5G and cell tower radiation. And it was crazy because at the time,

I was sitting in my office all day and I had my Wi-Fi router to the left of me under my desk. And I was getting all kinds of strange pains, tinnitus, radiant breast pain, pain in my left hip, my left shoulder, my left knee. I wear a tinfoil hat as it is. Like I've always been the odd person out. So it's like I tried to stay in one lane because, you know, when you open up this can of worms and you start looking at all the toxins that wear surrounded us, you could almost drive you crazy. You don't know where to begin and how to mitigate. So it was like a part of me didn't want to know about it because it's that thing. At the end of the day, I can choose what food I buy.

I can choose what pharmaceutical intervention or vaccine I put in my body, but I cannot choose this involuntary exposure and how much wireless radiation I'm exposed to both in my personal environment and outside of it. So once I started learning, I always say it set my soul on fire and it became something that I really got active in because it's an invisible toxin. It is something that is one of the fastest growing toxins that is affecting children and the least acknowledge one. So people don't realize it. We're doing all these things to mitigate what we're bringing into our homes, to organic skincare, organic diapers. And then you see these kids sitting down

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What should the average American know about buying a home that is really close to a cell tower? The New Hampshire Commission report said that 1,640 feet was a safe distance from a cell tower to a residential home, a school, places where humans gather. Yet you're seeing cell towers popping up right outside of windows, outside of these low housing income homes. And what you need to know is that exposure is real. You can't feel it. You can't see it.

You can't smell it. but it is impacting you. We had a community that we represented and litigated on behalf of in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. And it was a very quiet street. All of a sudden, it was a dead end. They saw trucks clearing lands and removing trees. So, of course, curiosity, they went down and they said, you know, what's going on? Oh, we're putting up a cell tower.

No notice, no knowledge of this happening. And once a cell tower is slated to be put into your community, it is very hard to stop it. So the cell tower went live. They didn't know the exact date, but some of the residents started to feel sick. Things like nausea, dizziness, brain fog, headaches, insomnia. So the woman, one of the women of a child that was really being impacted cold to find out the date that the cell tower was turned on and it completely correlated with her daughter's symptoms. So what happened at that point was the local board of health in Pittsfield, Massachusetts sided with the residents in Pittsfield, saying that there was. correlation between the symptoms and the cell tower. The problem is that the Telecom Act of 1996

eliminated the ability for local communities to cite any impacts from health or environmental concerns as a reason not to put a tower. And the federal preemption that it created actually just null and voided the fact that the Local Board of Health sided with Pittsfield, Massachusetts. This is still an ongoing thing. Years later, you're seeing cancer rates increase on that block, people having clusters of cancer. You're seeing that there was a school in California, the same thing. And the sad part is that these people are forced to evacuate their homes. And when you live near a cell tower, not only in the health impacts a problem, but your property values plummet. They're seeing up to 20% when you have a cell tower near you that you're seeing those residential rates really

decline because nobody wants to live next to a cell tower. Just like when I was looking for my home in New Jersey, whenever I saw those giant electrical lines above ground, I have, avoided them. Something in me just said, this is not a good thing. And the sad part is that we're living in a world where if we don't take control very quickly, the dark reality that we're living into is you could wake up at any morning and there could be a cell tower, small cell or large, sitting right outside of your window in your child's school on a playground. I mean, let's think about this. As it is, our current education system, we've moved away from books and backpacks and children are sitting in front of Wi-Fi-enabled devices all day long.

It's so sick. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. The fact of the matter is that hardwired is just as effective, if not more effective, as far as giving you the coverage, that broadband, hardwired is the way to go. In schools, in communities, it is much safer. It is much more effective in getting your internet needs met. But we continue to move with this wire.

wireless deployment. For what reason, I have no idea, but it's this big industry playbook where it seems like they're sitting in their ivory tower somewhere, whether it's big pharma, big food, or big telecom, just pointing their fingers and laughing at what they're creating, which is this wheel of illness and disease and suffering that's happening in this country. And we see it with our food. Why don't we deserve better in this country? Whether it's the food that we're eating the vaccines that are being pushed on our children or the fact that we're dealing with this invisible toxin without our knowledge and consents and without outdated studies that are not relevant in the modern world that we're living in. Yeah, it reminds me a lot of the pesticide fight

that we're in right now because that's another thing that parents cannot get away from. You're breathing it in. It's in your water. It's on your food. It's like you cannot do anything about it and it's harming us. That's why we want to see, you know, laws tightened up on the usage on some of these pesticides. It sounds very similar to this. It is, cell tower fight. And one of the things that's very interesting, you talk about liability shields.

We see it in the pharmaceutical industry with vaccines. We saw the attempt in the farm bill to shield the agricultural companies from liability. And the Telecom Act of 1996, as it's interpreted by the court, does provide a liability shield to the telecom companies. So essentially, if you are harmed by wireless radiation, a 5G tower near your home, there is essentially nothing you can do. There's no recourse. There's no way to sue for damages. You can't go through the American Disabilities Act.

They have nothing for you. It feels like this 5G infrastructure appeared basically overnight. Why did the rollout seem to happen so aggressively and so quickly? Well, the truth is that the FCC, it's like the fox guarding the henhouse. You know, you have this revolving door the way that we see in all the different industries where people are coming in, they're doing their work, and then they're going back to the different wireless company or telecom companies that they came from. So there is no oversight. And basically what's happening now, instead of protecting public health and putting the people over the profits, it seems like it's the opposite. And the profits come before public health, our constitutional freedoms and our safety, which is really a failure, an epic failure on the part of. so many of our governing agencies and the FCC. People are reporting symptoms, like you said, headaches, sleep disruption, brain fog, anxiety, when they are around this really dense, wireless infrastructure. What does science say about all this? So the funny thing is, two-thirds of

independent scientific studies show harm. Two-thirds of the industry-funded studies show no harm. So they're buying and paying for science, just like all of these other questions. It's the same playbook. Rinse and repeat over and over again. It doesn't matter what industry you're looking at. It is the same exact playbook. And the cost to human health, our environment, our population and the long-term safety of our children is what's at stake. And I think it's really hard for people to wrap their brains around the fact that these agencies that were supposed to be put in place to protect public health are failing so miserably and that you can't trust anything that comes out of them. I think the silver lining of COVID was it eroded that trust in a way. So I think a lot more people are questioning now. But this conversation around wireless radiation is such an important one because there's so many things at stake right now specifically. We have that bill, HR 22889, which right now is on pause thanks to a lot of action with Maha. They had a rules committee hearing that was supposed to happen in April and we squash that, thank God. But that bill,

essentially looks to take away any of the local control that's left. So right now, Section 704, the Telecommunications Act of 1996, eliminated local communities from considering the impacts of wireless radiation when it comes to your health and the environment, which are two very important things. We don't have the ability to do that right now. So what we do have in local communities is the ability to look at the aesthetics, historic preservation, and property values.

Fire safety, zoning permits. Those are things that we can still look at in local communities. HR 228-9, what it's looking to do is basically eliminate any regulation and just be able to fast track these technologies. So essentially, just like in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, you wouldn't know that a cell tower is coming until those trucks show up to start clearing ground and building that infrastructure. And they want to take away the ability for people to have those meetings

in their communities at the local boards. So no one would have a voice. And let's face it. Federal preemption in this situation, the federal government does not know these local communities the way that the residents and the local government does. So they're best suited to make decisions about where cell towers should and should not go. And the fact that we're trying to eliminate them from the discussion and just fast track the deployment of all of this infrastructure when the guidelines that we're looking at are 30 years old and have not been updated since then is insane to me. Yeah. Senator Ted Cruz leads up the committee that's in charge of this. And some of the people in our group had a meeting with them last week. And not him specifically, but his staffer and his staffer was like, I've never seen anything to show any concern when it comes to health impacts related to wireless radiation. There's over 10,000 studies that were submitted in 2021 when the court ordered them to redo. How is it that in five years you've never been exposed to these studies to take a look at? it just shows that these people are bought by the telecom industry.

I always say like a small toddler. You know, you have to think about you're in a position where you can either make positive change or make negative change. And sadly, these corporations, the lobbying industries have really taken over our government. So I feel like a lot of these politicians have to just cover their ears, close their eyes. And it's like la, la, la, la, like banging their feet like toddlers. Because if you hear what it is that you're encouraging and allowing to happen on your watch and the long-term impacts, let's face it, it's not just affecting my child's, my grandchild, my niece, my nephew, the people now, it's affecting your family and generations to come.

So there has to be some moral compass somewhere in there to say, okay, let's take a step back. Let's pause. let's really take a look at what it is that we're doing not only to health and human safety, but let's also think about our environment because we're very big into food. What happens when pollinators, our birds, our bees cease to exist? We're going to be subject to Bill Gates' Frankenfood for the rest of our life, and that's not a reality I want to live into. Right. And researchers have actually observed a certain impact that cell towers have on animals and insects and plants, right?

Yes, absolutely. So birds and bees operate on an internal navigation system that's sort of in line with Schumann's resonance and the resonance of the earth. So that's how they function. That's how they get from one place to the other. These cell towers completely disrupt their navigation systems. And we're also seeing that was a very powerful image that we shared on our social media. And it shows a tree. And the tree is beautiful, green and lush on one side and brown and dying on the other.

Why? because the part of the tree that's brown and dying is facing the emissions from the cell tower. So there is a real cost to what is happening right now. And if you think about how big global warming is, climate change, all these different things, this toxin that we're talking about, this invisible toxin of the emissions from these cell towers is one of the biggest problems I think that's happening right now in our environment. and yet nobody is talking about it. What do you know about these smart cities that people are trying to build? Should we be concerned? You should be very concerned.

And it's interesting, this is Stephanie Lucretio, just doing my own research, but most of the communities that you see have these fires, lots of them are slated for smart cities. Like in Hawaii. L.A. L.A.

Yes. What is a smart city? Smart city basically, like everything is 15 minutes. So what they're trying to do and what I think is coming is more of like a global warming crisis where you have to justify your travel, justify the drive,

justify why you're still using a car with gas emissions. I don't know how this could go wrong. I mean, yeah, it's like living into the matrix. And the 5G towers have facial recognition. They have tracking capabilities. They can see things that are going on, which is why they need to be closer to the end user. So this all sort of builds into this privacy and surveillance nightmare

that we're living into. And you know what? This is why they want everybody on these freaking Tesla's in EVs. And here's the thing. And then they just tried to pass that bill where they would be able to like remotely turn your car off. You know that? It's terrifying.

You could not pay me to drive a Tesla. Oh, same. I have been so anti-Tesla from the beginning. Yes. These Waymos. And it's terrifying. I've never seen them until I was in Austin for our conference. I don't know who would get.

get in a car that's driven by nobody and just has like some sort of a computer that's taking you around. It's insane. It's like a horrific Orwellian nightmare that I just want to wake up from. What do you know about electric vehicles and Tesla's and their impact on health? Electric vehicles are such a huge source of electromagnetic radiation. I have a safe and sound pro meter, which is a meter that detects radiation. It was something. that was sent to me for my work. And while it was a blessing, it's also a curse because when you turn that thing on and you see how much radiation you were living in, it is insane. I mean, everything from your refrigerator to your smart devices, your security system, your robot vacuum that's going

around. But the interesting thing is there's one side of my house that emanates at a much higher frequency than the other. And why is that? Because my neighbor, who's, you know, further away, but still close enough, has an electric vehicle. Those electric vehicles are hot zones. There is so much radio, wireless radiation in them. People get sick from driving them. Oh, well, I know that. They try to say it's like a motion thing, like because you don't feel like the acceleration and speed and things like that, that it makes people have motion sickness. But you think that that might be true, but then also just some radiation. Definitely radiation.

And that's the thing with these newer cars, even like the cars that aren't electric, all these different Bluetooth systems and the navigation and all the fancy bells and whistles being able to control it from an app, that all equals an increased exposure to wireless radiation.

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It's not necessary. Our children are exposed to enough wireless radiation. There is absolutely no reason. why a site for a cell tower, small cell or regular, should fall in a place where children are spending six to eight hours a day already propped up on a computer in front of Wi-Fi. I mean, the involuntary exposure from that tower is just unimaginable. And you see there was a story that I did years ago

with a woman whose son moved into a college and there was a tower right outside of his dorm. He developed brain cancer. within a couple of years and died. I mean, these are real stories. This is real. And, you know, people say, oh, tinfoil wearing hat, you know, you're a dinosaur, like all the things. And it's tobacco science. In years to come, there's going to be a reckoning. And it's just like COVID times. When I was out there protesting saying no mask, no vaccine mandates, people thought I was crazy. I was Karen. I was all the things. And years later, so many people have come to me.

Oh my God, wow. I cannot believe that that actually happens and you called it. I'm not looking to be right. I am here to warn people that it is time right now to do something because once this deployment happens, going back is not possible. And even if it is possible, it's certainly not going to be easy. It's going to take years of litigation while we live in the toxic environment that's created by all of these cell towers. Who knows what could happen in the time. frame that it takes to undo what's done. Are children uniquely vulnerable to wireless radiation? Yeah. They absorb 10 times more than adults. And that's primarily because if they're developing bodies and brains, they're developing nervous system, they have thinner skulls. So they are especially

vulnerable to wireless radiation and parents need to be very aware. We know, you know, devices are part of life right now. There's a lot of things. Yeah. It's don't keep it on your body. It's, you know, distance. and really monitoring how long. You know, if you need a babysitter, I would much rather see parents put their kids in front of a TV instead of having them on a tablet on their lap for hours on ends. You can download the content instead of having them stream it, so at least that device is on airplane mode,

so it dramatically reduces the emissions from that device when you do that. But there is a cost because they're spending so much time. I mean, you see it in restaurants. We go out to restaurants. I'm amazed how, one and two-year-old kids are just like, they're proficient. Well, I just don't understand. And, you know, I don't have kids yet. So anytime I give an opinion on any of this stuff, it's like, well, you don't have kids. So you don't know. Look, all I'm going to say is, how did any other family do this? How did any other family go out to eat, you know, before 30 years ago? Coloring books, crayons, imagination. I spy with my little eye. You don't know it's impossible. You're not a parent yet. I'm like, I don't even think you have. I, I don't.

you don't have to be a parent to be able to look at history and say, how did all these people do this before? Let's take a moment to think about. Yes, we're talking about the exposure from the tablet, the Wi-Fi, all the things, definitely a concern. But let's also look at the generation of children that we're raising right now as a result of this obsession with technology. They don't have the social skills that, you know, my generation had. They aren't able to carry conversations, make eye contact, the depression rates, the suicide rates, the toxic things that they're exposed to on those tablets, scrolling through social media, seeing over-sexualized content, you know, bullying online. There's so many things that this has opened up that as a parent, you now need

to worry about that we didn't have when I was growing up. And even when my son was growing up, he's 18. It's much different. Is there long-term safety data on the impact this stuff could have on humans. There's no safety data. The only safety data that we have are the outdated exposure guidelines from the 90s that aren't applicable in a modern world right now. So we have tens of thousands of studies that show harm, but it's not making any of a difference because the wireless infrastructure just continues to roll out very rapidly despite the concerns. So when skeptics say, look, Stephanie, if this stuff was dangerous, we would know by now. What do you say? I say, let's think about the images in the 50s and 60s of pregnant women smoking cigarettes and people saying,

oh, it's safe. It's great. And then let's look at where we are now where you see that commercial where the woman has the trache pipe and it caused harm. They lied. They knew that they were lying. People were tricked into believing it. History repeats itself. You know, it's rinse and repeat over and over again. The playbook is the same. What has to change is the evolution of human beings and not just taking things for face value. Asking the question. being critically thinking, being willing to stand up and stand out in a world where blending in seems to be the popular thing to do. We cannot let complacency and just blindly believing what industry quote experts tell us without doing the research ourselves, questioning,

looking around and really observing what is happening in our world. We have a chronically ill population of children. And it is a combination of all of the things. food, the air, the water, the vaccines, the exposure to wireless radiation. It is a combination of everything. And the why has to be the thing that gives us the courage to be brave enough to stand up and say the hard things, ask the hard questions. Maybe I am a tinfoil wearing hat person, but you know what? In years to come, I'm going to be able to look back and say, I did everything I could to protect my family and to educate other families on what it is they could do to protect themselves. Whether or not you choose to take those steps, you can take the horse to water,

but you can't make them drink. So what is the solution then? Like, what are you fighting for or asking for? Because obviously we can't just, like, not have Wi-Fi anymore. I mean, nobody's going to go for that. So, like, what is a practical solution that you would like to see implemented? We're not anti-technology, but I think that we need to look at ways that we can mitigate. So a couple of things that you can do at home. First of all, if you can hardwire devices that you're using in your house, you can run broadband cable. It's pretty easy. my husband did it in my house with all of our devices. My computer is hardwired or all of my TVs are hardwired.

Looking at your environment in my office. Before I was aware of this, I had a wireless keyboard. I had a wireless mouse. My Wi-Fi was on. My Bluetooth was on. Taking a look at all of your devices, shutting off the antennas. If you look at your phone right now, your Wi-Fi and your Bluetooth are always on unless you shut it off. What happens when you have that on?

your phone is in an active state of searching to connect to something that it's not going to find unless you're telling it what to connect to. So that raises the RF radiation in those devices. So shutting off those antennas is a huge thing. Keeping the phone out of your pocket, your bra, your waistbands, away from your body on airplane mode, preferably when you're not using it. Because we do see a huge difference when a phone is in airplane mode with the antennas off. That's a caveat because airplane mode,

Now your Wi-Fi can still be on. So what do you mean? Turn your antennas off. So if you go to your phone and you swipe down, you'll see that you have the Wi-Fi, it's on and the Bluetooth are on. The little green. It's like glowing green tab. You click those off.

And then at night when you go to sleep, airplane mode. And this is going to sound revolutionary. I do this every night. Okay. I do the manual, turn off Bluetooth, turn off Wi-Fi, and then I put it on airplane mode. Yeah. And the revolutionary thing is let's bring landlines back. Oh my, I am so with you. And I just saw, I don't know if it was the today show or what,

but there is a movement of parents that are getting landlines so that their children, their young children can communicate with their friends. And then you've got this, you know, in the family common area in the kitchen or whatever, just like before. I remember you'd have to like go around the corner and the cord would wrap around so that your parents would hear what you're talking about. But, you know, not giving kids a device to take privately into their own space. without adults around, I just feel like so many problems are coming from this. A ton of problem. I mean, I said to my son the other day, like, you have no idea what it's like when you

have a girlfriend or a boyfriend. I mean, I used to have to call the family house and be like, hi, can I speak to so-and-so? Like, hi, Mrs. So-and-so. They don't have to do that anymore. And as much privacy as you got was as long as the phone cord was. Those were the 80s and the 90s. And I'm not saying we have to go back there. But having a landline, it does a couple of things.

At night, my family knows if they need me in the middle of the night, do not call my cell phone because you're not going to get me. You need to call my landline. Now, when that thing rings in the middle of the night, it happens a few times. It's like heart attack central, but at least they have a way to reach me and I'm not exposing myself to wireless radiation while I sleep. The other thing you can do with each of your carriers, you can actually forward your phone calls from your cell phone to your landline if you're home.

So with Verizon, it's star 72, with the number that you want to forward it to, and then when you're ready to cancel it, you do Star 73. Each provider has a different prompt, but it's as easy as Googling it. Yeah. So when you're home, you can forward all of your calls to your landline so that you don't have to worry about carrying the phone, putting it on speakerphone, having the, you know, the wired headphones in your ear. You can just use your good old landline. Wired is the best one, but if you want to go a portable phone, I'd rather see you do that than a cell phone. at night having a sleep sanctuary, making sure there are no tablets, devices, anything in your room. If there are there, they're on airplane mode.

And then thinking about looking around your environment and seeing, can you eliminate wireless devices, mouses? You know, we have Wi-Fi-enabled refrigerators. Is that really necessary? I don't think so. Looking to see if you have smart utility meters installed in your house. And in most states, you have an opt-out. You can pay between $10 and $20 a month to opt-ex.

out of the smart meter, which is a hot zone for wireless radiation and pay for an analog one or, you know, another version of it that is much lower in the frequency levels. So those are easy things you can do. Looking at your baby's toys, your babies monitor, all these things are Wi-Fi enabled. I went to a Prego Expo about a year and a half ago. I was horrified. Babies have Wi-Fi toys? Yeah.

What? What? What do you put in the crib? Why does a baby need to be on the Internet? They have things that signal to parents. So it was like this thing in the crib that like measures the biometrics of the baby. And if the baby stops breathing. Yeah.

Yeah. No way. Signals. I understand the wanting to know if your baby stops breathing. But what you're exposing the baby to and the process of having that device in the crib is just not a good thing. I have the most badass women who listen to this podcast that vote, that protests, that call their legislators. like it's their one last mission on earth. You just told us about how Congress is considering HR 2289.

Tell us again, like elevator pitch, what this bill does. So HR 2289 would essentially eviscerate any local controls that are left. And like I said, the local control of considering health and environmental impacts is currently not a thing because of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. What this would do is remove any of the additional local controls that are their aesthetics, property value, the ability to have public hearings to express concern. It would fast track wireless deployment, even if there was community objections. So essentially, you would not have notice. You would know when that cell tower is going up because you would see the trucks.

Isn't this a federal override of local authority? Well, there's federal preemption that was built into the Telecommunications Act of 1996. So basically, states don't have the ability to override the federal preemption. There's something in this bill talking about like deemed approved timelines. Do you know what I'm talking about? So 150 days after a permit is submitted, they would approve it. It's 150 days that it would be approved even if there's community opposition. Okay. So that basically means if local governments don't move fast enough, telecom companies just automatically win. Telecom companies basically, yeah, that's essentially, they're basically clearing the path for telecom companies to just build cell towers wherever, whenever they want, and they want to

take the path of least resistance. So however they can eliminate the voices in the background saying, no, we don't want that. That is essentially what HR 2289 does. So live in a world where you could wake up at any given time and have a cell tower, small cellar otherwise in your front yard, attach to your kids school, playground, church, office building. And there's essentially nothing you can do about it. That's why HR 2289 is so important to pay. attention to. Who benefits from this bill? Not us, that's for sure. The telecom companies benefit a lot. And that's the way it is. I mean, it's the end user is always the one that deals with the negative impacts while big industry just cleans up. And it's like this never-ending wheel of get sick,

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controversial or conspiracy theorists related. Why is this conspiracy? I don't understand. It isn't conspiracy. But because big industry basically owns everything in this country, censorship is a real thing. So you're not going to see this on your local news station, just like you'll never see stories about people who have been vaccine injured. You might see them now because of Ron Johnson and all the work that he's doing.

He's taking it on. But for years and years, decades and decades of parents with children with the children, autism screaming from the rooftops that vaccines injured their children. You would never see this on a show. All you do see is that this is sponsored by Pfizer. This is this is what they do. How much power do telecom lobbyists have in Washington? Seems like a lot. The Republican Party seems to be bought by the telecom companies. Like I said, Senator Cruz is someone that we really need to focus on because he needs to demand that the FCC do what we're asking them to do, which is to comply with the court order from 2021. It's five years. We've given them plenty of time.

to show us how these outdated guidelines protect public health and the environment. And they have not done that. What is the message that lawmakers need to hear from parents right now? Parents are watching. We're paying attention. We're plugged in. We're tuned in. And we are seeing our children suffer.

We're seeing the sickest generation of children coming up right now. And we're seeing a government that, frankly, is doing nothing about it. And I think that we've all had it. And it's time to hold their feet to the fire. to say that we will not stop until the governing agencies that are put in place to protect public health and upholds constitutional rights, protect our safety, actually do their job and stop taking money from lobbying corporations, big industry, and turning a blind eye to the rally cries of the people and the constituents who they're supposed to support.

You created something called spring clean your wireless world. What is that? Spring Clean Your Wireless World was our March campaign, and it was an effort to really bring in people that are sort of new to this exposure and figuring out how to mitigate and identify where it comes from. And the thought was it can be very overwhelming when you're getting into this work. I know I was completely overwhelmed when I first learned about it. So I wanted to break it down into a little bite-sized pieces. So there's some resources on our website, 704.comer.org. If you go to the educational resources tab and you go to other resources, those flyers, both

the identify the exposure and mitigate the exposure are still there. And it takes you on a tour, like a scavenger hunt of your house, like looking at, do you have smart meters, what devices are smart, smart thermostat, smart bell, security systems, all the way down to your wearables, what you're putting on your body, your watch, your AirPods, where are your Wi-Fi routers in your house? Do you feel good about aura ring since you can wear? on airplane mode and it collects data? I don't wear anything that's a wearable.

Okay. I just won't do it. And sometimes I'm a yoga teacher. I'm a fitness enthusiast and like that whole like zone three, zone four, like feeling what it is. It would be helpful, but I just, I won't give in because I don't like the data collection and I definitely don't want the exposure. Are there changes that cost nothing but dramatically reduce exposure?

The biggest change that costs nothing and dramatically reduces exposure is distance. Distance, shutting off the antennas, putting your phone on airplane, mode huge. Those are things that you can easily do right now and making sure that you're paying attention to how much time you're spending. I mean, our screen time amounts are out of control. Bad for the eyes, bad for the brain, bad for the body, bad for the anxiety, especially in our children. So time, really limiting the amount of time that you're spending on those devices, picking up books instead of reading it on the thing, like going for the hard covers, instead of doing everything through technology, ask yourself the question, do I really need to do it this way?

Or is there something easy I can do? And like I said, the wiring, the downloading, those are simple things that cost nothing, but really make a big difference. So there's 10,000 studies that have been done on harm that is coming from EMFs. I know that we're still missing a lot of long-term safety data when it comes to Bluetooth or other cell towers and other wireless exposures. Where can people find the studies that we do have? So there's a lot on the children's health defense.org website. There's also another website. So stop5G.org is a initiative of children's health defense.

And basically it's a community empowerment consulting program. So our attorneys, some of the people in our EMR department work with local communities. There's do-it-yourself resources on there that help to stop towers that are coming up in your area all the way to hiring our team to help fight a cell tower in your area. There's lots of studies on that website. site. Environmental Health Trust has studies on their website. So there's tons. You just have to look for them. We had yesterday some big news with Children's Health Defense. CHD filed a federal court case and basically demands that the FCC comply with the 2021 court order to reexamine those outdated guidelines and provide written explanation as to why they're still relevant and protecting

public health and the environment. So we know that the public opinion, influences the court. So along with this case, we now have a new action alert that's out there. So I want to have everybody that's listening take out their phones and you're going to text to the phone number 55444. That's the phone number. The message is going to be simply FCC. And what this is going to do is it's going to take you through a prompt to fill out our action alert. Through this action alert, you're going to be telling President Trump, Congress and the FCC commissioner that we want the to update their outdated guidelines. And until they do so, we want to halt the rapid expansion of this wireless infrastructure

because we need to know what's happening. It's unacceptable that it's been five years and nothing has been done. So it's so important that people listening take these actions. These one-click actions really do make a difference, but more so than that, making it a point to reach out to your legislators, to have conversations. My dad always says this. They put their pants on the same way as you. So it's really not about being intimidated by having these conversations, but rather channeling

that why and what's at stake for you and your family and just going to have a conversation about your concerns when it comes to this issue of radio frequency radiation and letting them know that we're not on board with unchecked expansion and we want to make sure that they are accountable and that this is safe. We know that it's not, but they need to stop it until we have these guidelines. It's so important. And guys, we know that this. works. Like look at what we did with the farm bill and the pesticide liability shield. So they really do

listen when we start lighting them up on, you know, email or phones. They do notice that and it makes a huge difference. So Stephanie's 100% right. So let's go, girls. And with the midterms coming, let's face it, Maha is one of the main reasons that Trump got into office because we tilted the scales with Kennedy being involved. Maha is not happy about a lot of things right now. So I feel like it is due time to continue to express that dissatisfaction with the things that we're talking about related to telecom, the ag bills, we need to stay active, stay vocal, and just keep on them. We will win if we stay on them. If you could offer one remedy to heal us at culture, it could be physically, emotionally,

or spiritually, what would it be? I think that people need to disconnect, not only for the exposure, but for the mental things. Like, think about how often you have quiet time. We live in such an overstimulated world. and the anxiety and the stress that so many people feel, I think is a result of our minds and our bodies constantly being in that fight or flight. So taking time to disconnect,

not only for mitigation purposes, but for mental health purposes, clearing your mind, feeling into your body, breathing with intention, seeing things through eyes that are clear versus being distracted, we miss so much beauty in life.

Because we're constantly looking down at our phone and we're missing what's right in front of us. I say to my son all the time, connect with the three-dimensional people. Stop worrying about what's happening on the screens. And I'm guilty of doing it too. I mean, it's a temptation that's there always. But really looking at what the cost is

to the relationships that you have with your family, the cost is to your health, the cost is to the environment. There's so many costs. If we can take time to really put away the devices and just be present, I feel like the world would be a much kinder, a much healthier place.

Stephanie, thanks for coming on culture apothecary. Thank you so much for having me. I think what makes conversations like this so unsettling is that they force people to confront something that modern culture is very uncomfortable with. The possibility that convenience and progress are not always synonymous with safety. New episodes come out every Monday and Thursday at 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern, anywhere you get your podcast. Please leave us a five-star review on Apple or Spotify.

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