Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark - Hidden Microplastics In Tea, Shampoo & Everyday Products | Josephine Musco
Episode Date: May 12, 2026Beyoncé, Madonna, and Kendall Jenner trust her research and she says the tea industry is one of the most diabolical when it comes to plastic and lead exposure. Josephine Musco, environmental health r...esearcher, Vogue and Forbes contributor, and founder of Olyxir, has spent years studying how toxins infiltrate the body. Today, she's exposing the microplastics hiding in your tea, the skincare you're overpaying for, and the hormonal disruption happening every time you think you're taking care of yourself.Thank you to our sponsors!TAYLOR DUKES WELLNESS: Use code "ALEXCLARK" for 10% off your purchaseBLDG ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR: Use code “ALEX” for 20% off your orderCROWDHEALTH: Use code “CULTURE” to get your first three months for only $99/monthJASPR: Use code "ALEX" to get $200 off your purchasePUORI: Use code "ALEX" for 32% off Puori Creatine+ when you start a subscriptionHsFEVEC9tdsQajWNQa4cUSWYra7jo-mudUoI7oOLVxtTOOTHPILLOW: Use code "ALEXCLARK" for a free video review upgradeZEBRA: Use code "ALEX" for 10% off any orderOur Guest:Josephine MuscoJosephine's Links:Personal InstagramOlyxir InstagramOlyxir Website *Available in Target**Use code 'ALEX15' at checkout on all Olyxir products*FOLLOW ALEX:Instagram | @realalexclarkInstagram | @cultureapothecaryX | @yoalexrapzYouTube | @RealAlexClarkSpotify | Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark Apple Podcast | Culture Apothecary with Alex ClarkSubscribe to ‘Culture Apothecary’ on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. New episodes drop 6pm PST/ 9pm EST every Monday and Thursday.DISCLAIMER: This content is for informational purposes only and is not medical advice. Always talk to a qualified healthcare professional for any health-related questions or decisions.
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What should people who love to drink tea know?
There are no safe tea bags as far as I know.
These big tea companies that are making billions of dollars on the back of the consumers.
They know what's in their tea bags.
They know that when this tea bag is hitting the hot boiling water, what is releasing, all these microplastics.
And they just don't care.
Alexer is a legacy that I would like to leave behind me and make the world a better place.
Nobody else was thinking to do this.
Nobody else was tackling this tea problem.
Did people think you were nuts?
Yeah, and that's when I knew I was doing the right thing.
Your clean girl routine is lying to you.
The tea you love to drink, the skincare that's expensive, the designer clothes, and underneath
all of it, plastic.
Today we're exposing the invisible layer of modern wellness, how microplastics are impacting
fertility, hormones, and aging, the everyday exposures that you're not thinking about and why
you might be paying a premium for plastic.
Joining me is Josephine Musco, founder of Elixir, a completely plastic-free tea, and
environmental health researcher whose work on toxins, inflammation, and cellular aging has been
featured in Vogue and Forbes, and trusted by names like Beyonce, Madonna, Kendall Jenner,
and Anastasia Beverly Hills. Watch this episode on the real Alex Clark YouTube channel or
Culture Apothecary on Spotify. Leave us a five-star review to support the show. Please welcome,
founder of Elixir, Josephine Musco, to Culture Apothecary.
Did you get into wellness because you were sick or because you were smart?
I get into wellness because my father got sick. Okay, what happened with him? He got diagnosed.
at very young age with colorectal cancer.
So it was like a big shock for me.
And I was like, okay, why?
And I wanted to understand why.
And I wanted to understand how can I solve this?
So it became like the biggest puzzle of my life,
became something that I was really determined to decipher and fix and solve and make sure
other people aren't getting sick.
So that's kind of been my mission.
What was the first thing that you really started looking into that transformed your life?
what causes disease? Because you, you know, everybody talks about your genes, your gene,
you need, like you have it, it's in your genes. But you need to understand that your genetic makeup
loads the gun, but your lifestyle pulls the trigger. Basically, I wanted to figure out what am I
doing? What lifestyle changes will I be incorporating to prevent this gene from actually manifesting
in my health and in my life? So what were the first things that you started changing for
yourself and your own family?
Well, I was like 14.
15. Oh, you were only a teenager? Yeah, I was really, really young. So I started like looking
into figuring out, you know, just doing my own research, reading, asking questions to,
you know, science teachers and biology and whatever. And I think the main thing that I did was
exercise, build muscle and changed the way I eat. So I went raw vegan at 14, 15.
and because I felt that was the way to deal with any and every cause to get that disease to manifest in the body.
Later on I figured out that it was not the way to go.
So now I am carnivores, but I was raw vegan for like 10 years.
You know, it's funny.
I feel like a lot of people become vegan when they're starting their health journey if they are a teenager.
I feel like that's what everybody says.
Like, well, I went, I went vegan for a minute and then I got super sick. Then I changed.
Yeah. No, I just knew better. I didn't get super sick. I just got super skinny. And I started
realizing that this is not sustainable. And we need muscle. We need bone density. And it's not
it. We need to be strong and have a good foundation, which is muscle and bones.
For the first time, maybe ever, people are becoming super hyper aware about the plastic problem.
and not because everybody's a tree hugger.
It's because they're starting to become concerned
about the amount of plastic
that is getting into our bodies
based on what we're wearing,
what we're eating, what we're drinking.
So my question is,
why is plastic one of the most consequential things
for women to consider
that are experiencing unexplained infertility?
Look, we have the lowest testosterone in history.
We have a pandemic in hormone destruction.
Thyroid.
estrogen, you name it. There is a rise in cancer cases. And microplastics, nanoplastics are one of
those toxins that we can control. There are other toxins that are at the root of this crisis,
but microplastics, nanoplastics are ones that we can actually do something about because
there are something we are consuming. There is a very clear correlation between the use of plastic,
the excessive use of plastic and that these hormone disruptions and, you know,
inability to lose weight, acne, all kind of things that are manifesting in people since the start
of use of plastic. And as we start using plastic more, like for example, you know, women use
so many items every day that are leaching plastic in their bodies. So first of all, let me explain
what microplastics are and one of nanoplastics are because a lot of people watching this
aren't familiar with these substance.
So microplastics are particles there are between 5 millimeters to 1 micron.
Nanoplastics are below 1 micron.
So they are not visible to the naked eye.
And there are things that are leaching from anything and everything that's made from polyester
that's made, you know, like skincare.
Not only does the skincare have inside of it ingredients,
that are, you know, made from plastic derivatives,
but they're also stored in these plastic containers,
and when they are transported,
the heat is actually causing the leaching of the plastic
from the container itself into the product.
Number two, workout clothes.
Those are a major hormone disruptor
because people are wearing them, they are working out in them,
there's friction.
Our skin is our largest organ.
And when you're working out,
what happens, your pores are wide open.
And at the same time,
these microplastics are,
being leached because of the friction and the heat. So we are absorbing a ton of microplastics.
And, you know, people do heated yoga, heated Pilates in these workout closed. So it's a crazy,
crazy bad for our health and for our hormones. And I'm hearing more and more of girls that can
get pregnant. So I'm like, just let's start making some changes. Other things are your to go cups,
coffee, tea. You know, everybody now is in the morning going.
and grabbing their coffee or their tea.
And those paper, so-called paper cups, are really not paper.
You see the paper on the outside, but they are lined with plastic.
That's the only way these liquids are not leaching everywhere.
And the fact that people aren't putting two and two together, like, come on, go to the printer
paper, get a piece of paper.
Would that hold up water for you?
Would that hold up any liquids for you?
No.
And there are actually some videos that you can find online where they actually remove the paper
layer and you can see the plastic. Another big one is, you know, canned drinks and canned soup.
People who consumed a one can soup per day over the course of five days had an increase in
urinary BPA of 1,200 percent. Anything comes in a can. Also, there's plastic there because to prevent
the metal from resting and, you know, from just looking bad and from the rust going everywhere,
because if you put metal in contact with water, what happens? It runs.
I never even thought of this.
To prevent that from happening, we line it with plastic.
And then you have these things, they get, it's called pasteurization, when they go in super, super
hot temperature to prevent them from developing any microbes or bacteria.
And that heat is going to release all these micronanoplastics in your soup, in your drink.
So those are another massive one.
People are using plastic cutting boards in their kitchen.
So as you're cutting on the plastic cutting board, you are actually, you know, taking those plastic
with you, with the food and just dumping it in your food. Another massive one, which is my, you know,
my area is tea bags. The most recent study, which I knew 10 years ago, but now it's widely
available and people are talking about it and more referencing to it is a study by McGill University
that states that every time you see a traditional tea bag in hot boiling water, it's
through this up to 11.6 billion microplastics and 3.4 billion nanoplastics. And that's not
including the bleach, epitloridrine. If there's a staple on that tea bag, it's got to leached lead.
And also, you're not taking the whole leaf. You're taking the juice of the leaf that's in there.
So tea bags are massive. The other concern with all of these items and mostly tea bags and, you know,
can't soup, toothbrushes, I can go on. Like, the list is huge. And I can actually give you a whole list
with some good swabs, but it's bioaccumulation. People are using these items every single day,
and they are getting this exposure every day, day in, day out, sometimes twice, three times a day.
You know, these are items that we're using a lot. And so the bioaccumulation in the body is what's
causing the biggest damage. And people aren't realizing that, you know, they're not realizing
that microplastics have been found in the brain. They found that in post-morm brain,
0.5% of the tissue is made from plastic. That's the equivalent of one teaspoon. They're finding them in
testicles and they are linked to low testosterone. They're finding them in ovaries and they are linked to
infertility. And the reason why I mentioned these three organs is because these organs are protected
by a barrier. It's a blood barrier. And that barrier is there to really protect these very
important organs of ours that are responsible of the sustainability of humanity. You know,
with our brain, testes or ovaries are compromised, then we're not going to survive for too long.
Like humanity will go extinct if we cannot reproduce, if we cannot think for ourselves, what are we doing?
And so these are, this is very important. It's very serious. They find them in kidney, liver,
uterus. They're finding them in the miconeum, which is the first poop that the baby takes.
And the reason why that is massive, yes, because the mother is being exposed to all these
microplastics and she's passing them on to the baby and you know the FDA banned BPA products in
all infant and baby products so it's a very very serious thing that we are finding these particles
in the myconium and they are right now linked to like in babies you know extreme exposure to
microplastics during pregnancy is causing a shortening between the where the anus and the
reproductive organs.
Oh yeah, I heard about this. It's creating
like adrogynized
girls, baby girls.
So basically, we're literally
creating eunuchs. Like, I mean, we're creating
like genderless people. I mean,
it's really, really spooky stuff. It sounds
like a sci-fi, you know, old Twilight
Zone movie where
you've got these baby boys are
being born with malformed penises
due to a lot of chemical
exposure while they're in the womb
to different pesticides or
chemicals that are allowed in our water still in the United States.
Well, microplastics are found in drinking water.
Yes, in the microplastics.
This is crazy.
So one thing you said that's really interesting is you said that plastic can also be
contributing to your inability to lose weight.
Correct.
Can you explain that?
It's a hormone disruptor.
So when plastic is in the body, it acts like estrogen.
So it goes in our hormone receptors like the key, you know, like it starts telling the body
to produce energy to store.
or fat, to do all kinds of stuff that estrogen normally would do.
That is a big problem because you don't want something that is mimicking your hormones in
your body.
The other thing is that it causes inflammation because the dendritic cells try to break up
the microplastics and they cannot break them up because they don't know what they are.
And they keep on breaking them up, which causes inflammation.
And one more thing is that these microplastics, the body doesn't know what they are.
Right. So when they go in your body, we're like, what do we do with this? You know, your system is like, what do I do with these things? And sometimes they are being stored in the fat tissue. So it just shoves them in the fat tissue. And when you're trying to lose weight, the body can't break them up because it's not fat. It's not what is. It's not muscle. And it's like this layer of plastic that's actually lodging in your fat tissue. It's like the strata of the ocean. Right now, if you look at the strata of the ocean, you'll see.
see layers of microplastic within the rocks and the sand. And it's a big issue.
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house is probably making you sick and it's really weakening your immune system. There's literally
a term for this. It's called sick building syndrome. Your home is just trapping dust, mold chemicals,
pet dander, whatever you cooked last night, fragrance. You're just marinating in it. Jasper is what is
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Have you noticed that we seem to be in this crisis of a lack of masculine men?
Yes.
It's like all these men are so girly.
So girly.
Do you think that the exposure to plastics and the exposure to synthetic fragrance
is actually creating this epidemic of more feminine?
in men? A hundred percent. Look, they took male dogs and they put polyester underwear on them for,
I don't know, like I think 45 days. They all became sterile. Okay. Whoa. Yes. Atrazine, which is in
our drinking water, turn male frogs into female frogs. So you have this massive exposure to
hormone disruptors, whether it's fragrances, whether it's microplastics, whether it's other chemicals
that are in our drinking water. And yes, I mean, the body just can't take it.
as human beings, we are not engineered to take on this many toxins. Yes, the body is smart,
and yes, we are set up to detoxify and to repair ourselves. But it's a lot, it's a lot more than
our system can actually handle, not to mention the fact that our food is depleted of essential
nutrients. People are on like low-fat diets, which is crazy to me. It's the worst things that
happen to humanity is low-fat diets. Why? Because you need fat to function. You,
I mean, I insist on having a lot of fat every day. My diet has so much fat in it. Your brain needs
fat. Your hormone needs fat. Vitamin D absorption and, you know, function, which is also a hormone,
needs fat for it to be properly absorbed in the body. And then they go on hormone replacement therapies.
And it's really, it's very messed up. So when I look at the big picture as a person who is so into
this world, it just drives me crazy. It's like, it's like,
rabbit hole.
I'm like, I just want people just to stop and take a breath and just, you know, just go back
to basics.
Did your grandfather, what did your grandfather do?
What did your grandmother do?
What did she eat?
What did she wear?
Just do that.
We might even have to start saying great grandmother and great grandfather.
Yeah.
Because technically, you know what?
My grandparents are who are using Criscoe and vegetable oils and stuff.
So we almost have to go back even further than that.
But one thing I also want to talk to you about is.
is what do you think about a lot of these designer brands
who are making clothing with polyester or acrylic
and then they're still charging a premium price?
It's a crime.
For me, like what's happening to fashion right now,
I cannot buy anything.
Like, it's so limited what I can actually go and buy
because I'm used to like the good stuff.
I'm used to things I read from silk and linen and cotton
and wool and cashmere.
And you go to these places to like,
X, Y, Z designer store, and you are still buying things, if not more expensive than you bought it
several years ago. And the fabric is awful. And it's unethical because the margin, I mean, I'm in fashion
too, you know, like I have one fashion company. The margin that you can make when you are doing
polyester clothing mass produced versus when you are doing, you're using actual organic material
and is all hand done by actual artisans is two different worlds. For me, really, really,
it comes down to the consumer.
Are consumers right now really waking up to natural fibers
and demanding more from clothing makers?
I'm seeing that a little bit more.
I think thankfully, social media and the ability to access so much knowledge online
and the fact that there are more people like us talking about things
and bringing these things to the surface and educating people
is definitely driving consumer, the consumer to demand more and to ask for different options.
But we have a long way to go.
What are some of the sneakiest ways that we're getting exposed to plastic in our everyday life that people are not thinking about?
I'm going to give you a really good one.
Your shampoo bottles in the shower.
Well, we can't hold those?
Well, they're plastic, okay?
So they're plastic.
And what do you do when you go in the shower?
it's usually you take hot showers, right? So that plastic is not only going in your shampoo and then
on your skin, but it's also going in the steam where you're breathing. Pads and tampons. They just
studied every pad they could put their hand on. Then they found every niche one of them had plastic
and heavy metals. I mean, these are things, like I said, these are things we're using
continuously. We're using, you know, on our pores open, we are consuming every day. You know,
tea bags for me are the biggest one because like people who drink tea think they are healthier
than people who drink coffee. Like how many times have you heard somebody say, oh, I'm going to get,
this is new year, new me, I'm going to stop coffee, I'm switching over to tea. And the fact that
these big tea companies that are making billions of dollars on the back of the consumers,
they know, they know what's in their tea bags. They know that when this tea bag is hitting the hot
boiling water, what is releasing, all these microplastics. And they know.
the health implications of these toxins, and they just don't care.
That kills me.
That is one of the things that is really crazy.
And you have like, you know, they're mostly in things that people use who are super self-conscious.
Yoga mats, workout clothes, tea bags.
What do you use in place of a yoga mat, a rug?
I use cork yoga mats.
There are natural coke yoga mats that you can buy.
Oh, interesting.
Okay, what are you using for workout wear?
There are a few brands that I buy from that I found that,
have organic cotton.
Why should women not get laser hair removal if they're trying to get pregnant?
Well, there has not been a lot of studies linked to that, but I think it's because the laser
industry is so massive and those machines cost so much that these studies have been shut down
and they don't want them to surface.
But listen, if you are using a machine that kills the follicle, it's burning the follicle
of your hair, what is it doing to your actual, to your actual, you know, fertility?
I've never thought about it.
Just think about that, yes. And even like hair, your hair and your eyebrows, people who do a lot of
laser hair removal, you will see that their eyebrows starts to thin and their hair starts to thin.
And it's because these radiations or whatever, the laser things that are being,
they're focused on this area, whatever, this area, they're going everywhere.
That's why they make you put glasses because they're not.
just centralized on the area that they are treating. They are just going to go everywhere. And I do
believe that they are causing harm. And if you read, like if you try to go to do laser hair removal,
they won't let you do it if you're pregnant or trying to get pregnant. And there's a reason for that.
We need to get more of these studies done and to the surface. So people, you know, there is no
harm in people being educated and making the decision instead of just letting them do everything
without them knowing what are the repercussions of the things they are doing.
And, you know, we're being so, like, driven by beauty and looks.
And, you know, everybody wants to look in a certain way,
that we're not paying attention to what we are paying for this from our health.
Creams, laser hair removal, all of these things.
It's just an attack on fertility.
Why should all men 25 to 40 years old absolutely throw away
the little fragrance car freshener tree hanging from the rearview mirror?
Well, if every man I know is complaining about low testosterones, what do I do? What do I'm like,
throw away that fragrance thing that's hanging on your mirror, stop using perfume, change your
underwear to organic cotton. These are all hormone disruptors and these are getting in our body,
like I mentioned earlier, and they are disrupting our hormones,
and they are sending signals that should not be sent and affecting fertility.
I got into a little bit of a controversy because I was talking about this,
and, you know, this is definitely hyperbolic, but it gets the point across.
I went viral because I was saying, throw away the little tree hanging from your rearview
mirror.
It's basically turning you into a woman.
It is.
It's increasing estrogen.
It's decreasing testosterone in men.
So I said it.
really, you know, hyperbolic. But it got people's attention. And, you know, some people thought I was
crazy and make fun of me for that. But I was like, I mean, there's tons of science backs this up.
There are, there's, there are so many studies. And we can link all of this actually for them to,
so they don't attack you. They can go attack. No, they can attack you now. I need a break.
Oh yeah, they can attack me. I am all about it. I get attacked so much online. When I talk about
microplastics, you know, they're like, that I have fillers and stuff. And I'm like, I mean,
thank you for the compliment, but I don't. You know what I think is really juicy is that the
entire recycling industry is a sham. The entire recycling industry. They don't recycle anything.
It's some of it like has a divider on the top of the trash can. You take that off. It's all in the same
trash can. I mean, some of it's completely fake. And then they all take them to the exact same landfill.
It's all being dumped in the same place. And so what happens is people are seeing that little symbol that
it's recycled on plastic, and they think, well, this is better plastic then.
But it's not.
It's still harming you.
It's harming the environment.
It's absolutely just terrorizing us as a civilization.
No, 100%.
And actually, if you looked at if there was to be recycling, the emissions that come out from
the recycling are so high that basically they're not worth it for people, for companies to do.
That's what I've been told.
I saw a grown man at the gym the other day doing deadlifts, and every single rep he made this high-pitched squeaking noise.
Like a literal rubber duck.
I mean, it wasn't grunting.
It wasn't breathing hard.
It was squeaking.
It was like, that's what it sounded like.
And I'm watching this thinking, yeah, that's probably what your body is doing when it's running on fumes.
I mean, that's late stage burnout.
This man needs help because here's the reality.
Those people are underfueled at a cellular level, and then they try to go lift, think, work, function, and the body just goes, we're going to squeak now.
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Toothpaste is a hidden hormone disruptor?
Yes.
Have you ever read the ingredients on toothpaste?
I don't know if I have.
Well, just let's go to a very, very simple thing.
They tell you that you cannot eat it and keep it away from children.
And if you consume it, you should seek poison control, right?
Good point.
Okay, so the list of ingredients that are in this toothpaste were not meant to be in your mouth.
They're not meant to go in your mouth.
There are definitely petroleum by products in there, other toxins and chemicals that should not go in our body.
And these things, like I mentioned in the beginning, is like all of these things go in our body,
and the body doesn't know what to do with them. And some of them are mimicking our hormones,
are actual, mostly estrogen. And they are just turning on and off things that should not be turned on and off by foreign objects. So I make my own.
You make your own toothpaste? I make my own toothpaste. With what?
Cloves, coconut oil, whatever I have like in my, you know, I have an apothecary at home too.
You do? Okay, so are you also having your kids use toothpaste that you make at home?
Yes. Okay. And so if there's a woman who's struggling to get pregnant and she has tried everything and cannot figure it why, you are saying it could be her toothpaste.
Well, it's a lot of things. Toothpaste, pads and tampons, skincare products, shampoo's conditioners, your bed sheets that you sleep in. If there are polyester, that's really a big offender because
that's when you're supposed to rejuvenate and renew and repair your system and you are surrounded by all these toxins.
Also like the stuffing in the pillows that's made from polyester, the comforters, they're all, you know, because people don't want it down.
They don't want, you know, the feather because it's like all the nonsense.
What, like pita people?
Probably.
Oh, brother.
Like, give me a break.
But then they're bathing in all these microplastics and they're just inhaling those.
That's a good point about what your pillows are stuffed with, which I think a lot of,
people overlook. I love a down pillow and comfort. But also, if you want wool, really comfortable,
great 100% organic wool pillows, this company called the Wool Shire. I really like them.
They're a very small company. They don't sponsor me. But I think that they're a fantastic mom and
pop company. I know. I love supporting small companies. Because these companies still have the heart
and soul of the founders and they care.
You know, so like, let's put our money with these people.
Let's support smaller businesses who are actually putting their heart, mind,
and soul, energy, time to give people a good product versus like just giving our money to
big corpse that don't care.
Yeah.
They don't care about you.
They don't care about your family.
And you don't even know who they are.
So why are you giving them your money?
Why?
Okay.
I know you talked about this a little bit, but I want to go into.
to it more. What should people who love to drink tea know? There are no safe tea bags as far as I know.
None, even if it says organic. First of all, let's go back to the origin of the paper.
Papers are made from trees, right? And they come tan in color. For them to make them white,
they have to bleach them. And that bleach is not going anywhere. It's staying within that structure.
So bleach. If they're tan in color, we'll go back. We'll go to the second part. If you take that printer
paper, which is not meant to be used for tea. Like, do you remember when you were a kid and you made
like these paper boats and you want to put them on water and let them float? What happens to them?
Within seconds, they're like falling apart and sinking down. And the only way these tea bags are
being prevented from bursting in water and holding those tea leaves for a long time as you,
you know, steep them in hot boiling water is they are layered with plastic. And there's no way around it.
And you see the crimp on the side of the tea bag.
That is achieved with plastic.
You know, like the way they seal it.
That's achieved with plastic.
There are a lot of toxins and heavy metals found in tea bags other than plastics and bleach,
epilogram lead.
If you are a tea drinker and you have a lot of tea in your cabinet,
I'm not telling people to go throw away all your tea bags because that's waste and I'm totally against waste.
I would say cut open your tea bag, use the leaves from that, and when you are done, just do not
use tea bags again.
So loose leaf tea or olixir, which is my invention.
So elixir is a legacy that I would like to leave behind me.
And it's something that will remain on this planet and make the world a better place.
The way I made it is I take tea leaves and I grind up in fine powder and I make it into a strip.
Actually, we can just open one right now.
and it fully dissolves in water.
So there is no plastic.
There's no toxins whatsoever that are going to be leaching.
You just stick this stick in a cup of hot water and it completely dissolves.
Yes, you just put it in water and it dissolves and it's made from tea leaves.
Okay, so this makes sense to me because obviously instead of using tea bags,
your alternative that you want to do is loose leaf tea.
But loose leaf tea is not convenient to travel with or have on the go.
And a lot of people want to, you know, bring their own tea to a restaurant or on the airplane or whatever.
Like you don't want to be sifting through loose leaves.
Some people like me don't really like looking at stuff floating around.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gross.
Yeah.
So this is so nice.
This is your loose leaf tea, but in like a very convenient way, the other component of this is the environmental impact.
Every year, there are six billion tea bags discarded off globally.
Six billion tea bags that take about 100 years to decompose and it's all going back in our soil and our water and our
environment and it's going back in your body. How do you even make this? You just take, you know
matcha powder? Yeah. Well, basically we pulverize everything in like a powder similar to matcha powder
and we make it into, we mix it and then we dry it on a very, very low heat setting and we have the
strips. How'd you come up with this idea? You know what? I don't know. I think it's like my mission
in the world. Like I was supposed to do this to save humanity from the tea bag. Well, it's just so, it's so wild and
it's so creative and so industry disrupting, which I think is so cool. And the reason I found out
about you was from Dave Asprey, he was like, oh my gosh, you have to talk to Josephine. Like,
her tea has changed my life. And then Dr. Raphael Gonzalez came on the show. And we were talking
about all kinds of things, you know, hormone disruptors, how to slow down aging. And then he mentioned
your tea and was talking about, you know, plastic exposure and things like that in our everyday
environment that are disrupting our hormones. And he's like, yeah, it's probably your tea bags.
You've got to talk to Josephine. I was like, oh my gosh. So that's how I discovered you.
By the way, these are two of my most favorite people. Dave Asprey and Dr. Raphael Gonzalez have
been angels to me. They have supported me. They have supported my mission, my vision, my company.
They have been like just God sent. So I'm super grateful to both of them. Yeah, they're really great.
Don't all the Kardashians drink this tea? Yes. Yeah. Okay. And the Jenners.
How did you get LinkedIn with the Kardashians and the Jenors?
How did you convince them who, I mean, Corny's a little crunchy.
By the way, I didn't convince anybody.
I believe that when you put a good product or you're creating something good and you really believe in what you're doing, the right people will find you.
And Gwyneth Paltrow also, right?
Gwen Paltrow likes it.
But she doesn't talk about it, but she uses it.
So you've got, yeah, you've got A-less celebrities that are using this.
And, you know, you're not a sponsor.
of the show. But I love just talking to people and learning more about really interesting things
that people are creating and doing in wellness when they see that there is a need for it, right?
Like, nobody else was thinking to do this. Nobody else was tackling this tea problem.
And so I love that you just came up with this idea and decided to kind of go crazy.
I mean, at first, did people think you were nuts? Yeah, and that's when I knew I was doing the right
thing. And that's an advice to every, like, entrepreneur out there when somebody tells you,
oh, you're crazy, your idea is crazy.
That's when you really need to go pedal to the metal
and just go really all in
and make sure that your vision comes to reality
and you push through.
What does your hello gorgeous tea do?
Well, it's made with olive leaves,
which are a super antioxidant
and they have a lot more properties.
So that's one of my patents too.
So I patent this way to dry olive leaves
to promote the production of antioxidants.
So, you know, antioxidants are very fragile.
So when you pick a fruit or a leaf from the tree or from a bush, whatever, the second you pick it is start losing antioxidants.
And then once it's exposed to moisture, light, different temperatures, it's going to lose even more antioxidants.
So what I did is I took the leaves from the olive tree, which is one of the things that my father taught me about, you know, that the olive leaves are great for you.
they're for immune boosting, for diabetes, for all kinds of stuff, high blood pressure.
You know, there are.
They're also biblical.
They are biblical.
We had Dr. Jordan Rubin on talking about the Biblio diet.
And basically, if people want to eat just food recommended in the Bible, what food is healing.
He kind of wrote this whole book on this.
It was a very popular episode I did.
And he went off about olive tree leaves.
Yeah.
And how he thinks those tree leaves helped him reverse his cancer diagnosis.
that he had? Well, they are super potent antioxidants, so there are little powerhouses, and that's
what you need. You know, antioxidants are great to go and kill everything that's not good in your body.
And so what I did with those leaves is I promoted the production of antioxidants. So I studied
all 72 varieties of olive trees. Then I studied what time of the year is the highest production
of antioxidants, hydrochitatorosol, all the good stuff in the olive trees. Then what the
time of the day. So like, you know, just like us, plants have a soul. They actually, they behave very
differently during times of the year, times of the day. So I took the leaves during the peak production
of antioxidants, time of the day, time of the year. And then I ran them through a patented process
that promoted the production of antioxidants in those leaves. Then I stabilized the antioxidants. So when
you get these strips, and I also have the powder from that, they have 26,000, 250 micrograms
of antioxidants per serving. That's the equivalent of eating five packs of freshly picked
blueberries, except it's like one gram of olive leaf powder. Whoa. So, and, you know,
by the way, they kill herpes. Olive leaf kills herpes. It's known. It is also my powder killed
Listeria under microscope at the USDA leaf three times in a row. So this is not something that we
should be taking lightly. And I really believe in the power of olive leaves. And are all these teas
organic? Yes. So it has the olive leaf, which is superponent and antioxidants. So one strip of the
hallo gaudress is like eating five packs of freshly picked blueberries. But it also has rose extract.
And we know that rose is a beauty food. And the rose extract that I use,
is from the mask roses and it's like equivalent to gold in weight because it's so potent and so
pure and you know it's just extracted in the best way possible so you are basically eating like
thousands of roses every time you steep like one of these strips in water which one of your teas is
your best seller at the moment people are going crazy about the lymphatic system there's all this hype
about lymphatics and our lymphatic tea has key herbs to really act on the lymphatic
system activated and make sure that you are draining properly. It reduces buffiness and bloating
and all that stuff. So the lymphatic system, the lymphatic cleanse AM is one of my top and the
sleep tea. And the reason why the sleep tea is so popular is because when people try, they never
go back to the gummies or the pills. So gummies and pills usually have pillars, sugar, gelatin,
this, that. So when you take them, it's telling your body to sleep, but it's also telling your body
to digest things. So not only is it making you do two different things, but it's also, once it goes
in the stomach, it's going to get digested by the stomach acids. So any active components,
you're not really getting 100% of those. Meanwhile, in my sleep tea, there's no fillers, there's no
sugar, there's no gelatin. And the active component, which is melatonin and epigenin from pamomile,
are being absorbed in the mandibular glands. So they go straight away in your bloodstream,
and they put you to a restful sleep.
There's no groginess when you wake up.
Yeah, this is interesting.
I learned this from you.
So everybody thinks of melatonin
as something that helps you sleep.
But also melatonin is anti-aging.
That is correct.
Can you explain that?
And they're using it also in cancer treatments.
Oh, really?
Okay, explain all this.
It's naturally produced in the body.
Actually, the breast milk contains melatonin.
And it's one of the best antioxidants
that you can have in your system.
And that's why they say sleep is so important
and sleeping before, you know, by 9 o'clock
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And that's one of the biggest longevity hacks,
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I'm pro-aging.
I'm just pro-longivity and aging gracefully
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But yes, it's one of the best things you can put in your body,
so don't be scared of it.
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and somehow they get on the topic.
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An abandoned warehouse. He's like, they don't even make it anymore, but I use it because it makes
my brain feel buzzy. And she's like, that seems dangerous. What if it's expired? And he just
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Are seed oils contributing to cellulite?
Seed oils.
Yes.
How?
So seed oils are another one of these really, really toxic things that you put in your body.
So think about them as like a shrink wrap.
So when they go in your body, they take all the good fats from the cells and they put in the
bad fats in your cells.
That alone is forming deformed cells.
and that is what you see on the outside, the orange peel, cellulite.
It causes inflammation.
Seed oils stay in the body for over two years.
So your body cannot get rid of them very, very easily.
So I think it was, it's a little over two years that they stay in your system.
Women are not taught how to take care of their skin on the microcellular level.
So what is glycation?
How does a woman spot it?
And does she have a chance at reversing it?
Glacation is when your cells start to oxidize.
And sugar, when it goes in your body,
instead of nurturing your body,
it's actually stripping it from essential nutrients,
from minerals.
And how you spot it is you start sagging.
So there is a post that I have on my Instagram
and it says,
that dessert that you just had, it's aging your face or aging you. And just sugar goes in your body. And the first
thing is it does is it robs your body of minerals. And that is one of the most important things for
us to stay youthful, for our face, especially to stay, to have proper form, for our bones, for our
muscles, the way you can reverse glycation, is you have to have a super protein-dense diet.
So you start your day.
By the way, as an experiment, I put like one of those TGMs on my arm.
I actually wanted my mom to do it because I just didn't want her to have, because her mom
has type of, it had diabetes.
And so I wanted her to like be cautious and not get that.
So I'm like, oh, I'm going to do it too with you.
And it's amazing.
If the first thing you eat in the morning is a sugar-loaded breakfast, and by the way, white bread, sugar, cereal, sugar, pasta is sugar, white rice is sugar.
So please don't think that if you're not having a waffle with a ton of syrup on it, you're not having a sugar breakfast.
A proper breakfast, the way where we can reverse lication and we can reverse insulin resistance and we can reverse all of these issues that come with them is we start our day with a protein-rich breakfast.
steak, eggs, avocados, plus fiber.
Once, and that first meal is going to set your entire day.
So your whole day, when you start with a protein-rich breakfast, your whole day is balanced.
Your whole day is okay.
And if you actually have sweet tooth and you want to have something sweet, first of all,
I would always recommend people to do their own desserts or get things that are made with
like dates or honey or maple syrup instead.
of like straight up white sugar. Yeah, natural sweeteners, no refined sugar. No refined sugars. But if you
want to have something, just have it after you have a protein rich meal. Not first thing. And, you know,
when I was putting my, when I put my CGM, I was doing all these experiments. So I would have like a
piece of toast in the morning. And I would be like, woo, like my, you know, my blood sugar went up.
But, you know, of course, I have a lot of muscles. So my muscle always helps me clean up that sugar.
And that's another way we can reverse glycation and insulin resistance is like by building a lot of muscle.
And us women are not talk to do that weightlifting.
Yeah.
So just just high protein diet, resistance training, weightlifting, hydrating, staying hydrated is very, very important.
See, I want everybody to remember what Josephine just explained to you about glycation because everybody on the internet accuses me of lying that I don't have Botox.
and I have explained thoroughly.
I lived off Dr. Pepper.
I would have three or four Dr. Pepper's a day.
I would eat cheesecake or tiramisu for breakfast.
I would bring it every day for work.
I would start my day with straight refined sugar.
I had basically fast food multiple times a day to eat.
I didn't cook any meals at home.
I mean, before I was into health and wellness,
this is my whole life basically before the pandemic.
I changed my life during the pandemic.
That's all I consumed was sugar.
I have explained to them, when you start only eating real food, your skin will completely transform.
Completely.
You will look younger.
You will have more clear skin.
You will have more bright skin.
You will have more collagen.
You'll look plumber.
People think that I'm making this up.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
By the way, for everybody listening today, they need to understand the number one ally for your health is your food.
what you put on your plate is going to dictate how you age, period.
And if you're going to have disease, if you're going to, if you're going to be healthy,
if you're going to live a long life, if you're going to have Alzheimer,
what you put on your plate and how you consume your food is the most important thing you can do.
You know, aside from toxins and whatever avoiding them, food is medicine.
And it's sad that people are not realizing that.
And I can blame that on the fast food culture and the fast food that, you know, that we're really
getting, trapping ourselves into that whole, you know, let's go to this fast food place and that
fat food place.
And, you know, RFK was saying the other day is that it's cheaper to eat at home, home cooked
meal than to eat fast food.
Yep.
And I can tell you, I 100% concur.
Beans are super, super cheap and they make very nutritious, high protein, high fiber,
meals, there is a lot of ways that we can actually nourish ourselves without having fast food
and relying on sugar and refined sugars and just messing up our whole system. And people don't,
you know, I get one thing. It's like, oh, well, I'm going to live five years more or five
year less. It's not about that. It's about the quality of your life. Exactly. It's about,
are you going to be 60 years old and needing somebody to get you off the couch? Or are you going
to be 102 and be like running half a marathon? Yeah. What do you want? Which, we're,
Which one do you prefer?
Great way to put it.
Great way to put it.
Your skin is amazing.
Thank you.
You're so beautiful.
What is your skincare routine?
I have zero skincare routine.
What do you mean?
I don't have serums.
I don't have face wash.
I don't have creams.
I literally can ask my daughter sitting here.
I have nothing in my bathroom cabinet that says skincare.
I wash my face.
Like when I go from here, I have makeup on.
I can wait to get it off my face, by the way.
I wash my face with the soap anywhere.
even when I travel, the soap that's on the sink in any hotel, I'll wash my face with that.
And I have never had any issues with my skin, with my skin, knock on wood.
But there's one thing I do, and I love doing it.
I use exosomes.
Okay, so this is what Dr. Raphael Gonzalez came on.
Yeah.
He talked about how he has this center in Mexico and like all of the rich and famous and the well-to-do.
Oh, by the way, I swear by that place.
Okay, so everybody's going there.
to do skin, exosomes, macronidling.
Yeah, well, everybody's going there to do exosomes,
and then they're also doing stem cell stuff.
And NK cells, natural killer cells.
Those are amazing.
Those, like, those are like the holy grill of longevity.
Where are you going to do this exosome facial?
So I was just in Cabo at the Rehealth Center,
and they did, I'll share with you a picture of my face.
They macronidyl of my face, and then they took,
you know, like, when you do makeup and they do like the airbrush,
like with those things that like push the makeup on your face,
they fill that with exosomes.
So they micrinal your face really hardcore.
And then they just like do a serious push of exosomes in your pores.
I cannot tell you like how my skin transformed after that.
Just one treatment.
What's the downtime or whatever?
It depends on how well you eat every day.
Okay.
I mean, does your face look like red and raw and stuff for a minute?
It does.
But like for maybe.
like two days. Okay, that's not bad. It's not bad because the exosomes really help prepare. So like
the macronedaline causes these like micro ruptures in the skin and promotes the production of
collagen, right? So that's why we like to do them because they want, they go in and tell the phase to
repair itself. And so when they put the exosomes in there, what happens is those exosomes are
going to go in and they're going to help repair your skin. So you have two teams working for you,
your own skin and those amazing exosomes.
So your skin is going to look better
and it's going to heal much faster
than if you did just microneyotling
without the exosomes.
Okay, yeah, I'm dying to go try this
that Dr. Raphael taught me about.
And their stem cells are amazing.
I've done stem cells and I've done
the NK cells, which is natural killer cells.
These are from your own blood.
They draw your own blood and then they
do a process in their lab here in California,
by the way.
It's very important for people to understand
that their product are 100% made in California.
It's just, it has to be administered in Cabo
because of all the regulations.
Makes sense, yeah.
And then they re-inject those NK cells in your body,
and it's just, it's really amazing for immune boosting,
for skin health, for rejuvenation from the inside out,
because they just get rid of all the senescence.
And senescence is at the root cause of aging,
and especially, you know, the one that you see on your skin.
Elyxar, your tea brand, the tea strips that go right into your hot cup of water.
Those are now officially available at Target.
Some Target stores nationwide, right?
Yes, yes.
How do you find out if your target store carries elixir?
You go on olixir.com or L-Y-X-I-R.com and we have a map locator that shows all the stores that the
product is at.
Okay, so exciting.
Where can people find you on social media?
Josephine Musco underscore or O-L-L-Y-X-I-R.
I ask every guest this on the show.
If you could offer one remedy to heal a sick culture, it could be physically, emotionally, or spiritually, what would that remedy be?
Prayer.
Prayer is and has been the pillar of my life.
And with that prayer, I don't think I would be here today.
We live in a big world with a lot of people, a lot of variables.
And if we don't have certainty and if we don't believe in the fact that there is a God who actually wants our ultimate best,
we get lost and you know we don't really know what to do so whenever you get somewhere and you
don't know what the answer is always just pray pray pray pray until you cannot pray anymore get lost in prayer
and trust that somebody a higher power everybody calls a different thing god creator whatever you
want to call it um is there for you and you'll be okay because god who created us and who put us
on this earth wants our best, wants the best for us.
And all we want to do is, all we have to do is believe and really, really believe in that.
And I think you'll be successful and you'll be, you'll do great and you'll be happy and
healthy and everything.
Well, congratulations on getting into Target.
We're so excited.
And thank you for coming on Culture Apothecary.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
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