Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark - "The Childhood Vaccine Schedule Episode." -With @naturalnursemomma

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

Holistic nurse practitioner and co-host of "Redpill Your Healthcast," Lauren Johnson (@naturalnursemomma) shares heavily censored information on the childhood vaccine schedule. In this episode, Nurse Lauren and Alex cover natural remedies for common ailments and address listener submitted questions. Lauren JohnsonInstagram | @naturalnursemommaApple Podcasts | Redpill Your HealthcastWebsite | Natural Nurse Momma Thank you to our sponsors! Don't miss your chance to join us at the Turning Point Academy Educators’ Summit 2024 from July 24th-26th in West Palm Beach, Florida and become equipped to meet today's challenges while shaping tomorrow's leaders. Hotel, conference fees, and meals are covered. Attendees are responsible for covering travel. Sign up now! Register at: https://turningpointacademy.com/training A'del Natural Cosmetics has got you covered with clean, high-end, natural, handcrafted, toxin free makeup products! Go to https://adelnaturalcosmetics.com/ and use code ALEX for 25% off your first order! Switch to Aleavia organic prebiotic body wash and ditch artificial fragrances. Use code: ALEX15 for 15% OFF. https://www.aleavia.com/ Reclaim your BIRTHRIGHT To Optimal Health, Fertility, and Wholeness with Birthright Prenatal Supplements at https://www.birthright.co/. Use code ALEX for 15% off. Get 100% Organic tampons & now PADS! Try GARNUU today at https://garnuu.com/ and use code ALEX for 15% off. Support American farms and shop Good Ranchers and get FREE WAGYU with code CLARK https://www.goodranchers.com/ Squeezed Juice's classic lemonades are perfect for this summer! Try fresh squeezed juice packed with quality natural ingredients, a delicious taste, and filled with nutrients by visiting https://shop.squeezedjuice.com and using code ALEX for 25% off. Elevate your skincare routine with Nimi Skincare! Go to https://www.nimiskincare.com/ and use promo code ALEXCLARK to get 10% off your order. Support the show Looking for like-minded friends? Join the Cuteservative Facebook group! Interested in making a tax deductible donation to support The Spillover? ☕️✨ Visit https://donate.tpusa.com/donate to contribute to guest travel, set needs and more! Instagram | @RealAlexClarkInstagram | @popliticsYouTube | @RealAlexClarkX | @yoalexrapz Shop Real Alex Clark Merch! Listen at 6 PM PST/ 9 PM EST every Thursday by subscribing to ‘The Spillover’ on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ☕️✨

Why has the childhood vaccine schedule exploded to over 70 shots? I know why. Money. Childhood vaccine manufacturers cannot be sued. They are not liable for any issues that come up with vaccines. They're finding that these antibodies go away. And that's why they keep having to get more and more and more. And the issue with that is you're stimulating the immune system over and over and over mega dose of aluminum.

It's the glyphosate in there. There's formaldehyde in there. It's causing the body to say, what the heck? And it overreacts and overre responds. and we get this epidemic of allergies and eczema and autoimmune diseases and children. She's a human encyclopedia on all things holistic health and one of the most popular family nurse practitioners on Instagram.

After finding herself sick and donned seven different medications at the age of 31, it was the wake-up call she needed on the issues with conventional medicine in America. She started an Instagram page that took others along her journey of healing while also helping others realize the things that are making our family sicker. She's the co-host of the podcast Red Pillier Healthcast with Dr. Charlie Faganholz, to be able to discuss these issues in a way that shows the nuances of health and healing. For the first time on this show, we'll be diving into not only the highly requested topic of childhood vaccines, but also her controversial view on wellness visits and a myriad of listeners submitted health questions,

such as how to get over a summer cold, what could be causing chronic yeast infections? Her post-anibiotic protocol causes of recurring ear, infections, mammograms, pap smears, infertility, and most importantly, helping moms feel confident to handle most minor ailments naturally. Because of everyone's favorite YouTube censorship, this episode is only available as audio, or you can watch it on my Twitter, which is Yo Alex Raps with a Z. Don't ask, I've never been able to change it. Take notes in case this episode is ever taken down.

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natural nurse mama, aka Lauren Johnson, to the spillover. You're a former pediatric ICU nurse. You live in Louisville, Kentucky. You're now a nurse practitioner. You're the co-host of Red Pill Your Healthcast, which I love, and you're helping other moms feel confident in their abilities to take charge of their family's health. What prompted you, Lauren, to stray from the traditional medical model? Well, I was sick. So I was a nurse practitioner. I had two young children, and I was on seven medications at the age of 31.

What was going on? I had acid reflux. I had allergies. I had headaches. I had fatigue. And I was seeing specialists after specialist. And I was not getting anywhere. They were just bouncing me around and wanting to put me on more meds. And that's when I woke up and said, wait, this doesn't seem right. And I looked into something to help with my acid reflux. And that was my first thing because it was a daily issue. It hurt my quality of life, how much it affected me. And so I was on seven medications and I was like, okay, we're going to get off of these.

And I started using essential oils and herbal remedies and it worked. And I was like, why weren't we taught this? Why wasn't I taught about these things in school? So nutrition and alternative therapies, herbs, they were like the last slide on a PowerPoint. They were not taught. And so I got really angry. And that was when it was right before COVID. And then when COVID hit and I saw just the lack of care being provided to patients, I was so

frustrated. I was hearing time after time. My doctor just told me to go to the hospital if I get short of breath. And that's just not okay. Like that's not care. And that's really what just fueled me to just figure. out a different way of doing things. And that's where this, my page was born. That's where I really love to educate moms of what to do and what, you know, how to care for their families,

because I just feel like the conventional medical system does nothing for them. When you left, were you planning on, okay, I'm going to do this thing. I want to transition. I want to help other women or did that just happen? Like you creating this Instagram page and everything to get this information out there. What, what sparked that? That was born out of, a desire for other moms to know what I didn't know. I didn't know these things. I was a conventional nurse practitioner and my kids, when I had them, they got talonal. They got ibuprofen.

Not that you shouldn't give that, but that was my first option for everything. They got the vaccine schedule until my oldest until my oldest was four. I didn't know then what I know now. And it was born out of really just wanting parents to be like to know what I didn't know so they could make the best decision for their families because that's all I want. I don't want to tell parents what to do. I want them to know the information and say, okay, this is what's best for my family. What were some of the biggest things that you had to unlearn after nursing school?

What was the hardest thing to be like, okay, that wasn't true or that isn't right? Well, it was really hard when I learned about the formation of like the Rockefeller and the Flexner report. Like that was the whole basis for it was wrong. What do you mean by that for someone that's never heard this? So the funding, they fund the medical schools. They fund the nursing schools. They shut down homeopathic hospitals with the Flexner report. And they made doctors that were doing anything because at the time, most doctors were practicing a mix of conventional and of natural medicine.

And they basically made them not practice that way and not teach that in schools. And so when I learned that, that was a gut punch. It was like this whole basis for my learning was. was wrong. They didn't include most of what you can do to heal yourself. Because they wanted us to transition into this model where there's a pill that you can prescribe for everything because they saw it as a business model. The classes were mostly about pharmaceuticals and surgery. And then like I said, like one point at the end about a natural option that doesn't really work, but you can't be, you can't take any supplements because that will interact with your meds. What I would say,

the biggest thing I had to unlearn was that everything is connected. They, they, they, they, they, don't look at it like that. Everything is siloed. Yes. In conventional medicine, if I had a patient with a headache and with constipation that I couldn't figure out, they went to neurology and to gastroenterology. And they, those two doctors didn't talk at all. And they would send their notes to me.

But then if I had questions for both of them, there was no way to do it. The Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic do it a little different. And like Cincinnati Children's, they do it a little better with a round table. but most people don't get access to that type of care. And even then, they're still only using conventional methods for looking at a patient's health and what's going on with them. What were the remedies that ended up helping with your acid reflux? It wasn't just one thing. It was foods.

A lot of times, I was not told at all about foods being an issue. You're never told. Like, my doctor was like, you could go off of that, sure, but I don't think it'll really help. Go off gluten and dairy. What were you eating or doing that was contributing to this health decline looking back, knowing what you know now? I think it was stress. I think it was birth control because I had been on birth control for 12 years. I was put on it at 15.

And my gut was a reg. So three months after I got off birth control, I got pregnant. And that just sets you up for, I mean, because you're giving all your nutrients to the baby, which is amazing. The body was created like that. But I was all ready to state where my gut wasn't absorbing nutrients. And so it really set me up from my health to plummet after I had babies. And so I would say the biggest thing that helped me was, changing my diet. At the time, I ate pretty healthy, I thought, but it was very processed healthy.

What does it look like when somebody thinks that they're healthy, but they're actually eating processed food? So it was diet culture. It was reduced fat wheat then. It was more of the diet foods. It was protein bars that had a bunch of junk in them. And I thought, oh, and I was doing more low carb. But at the same time, it was just a lot of dairy. And that was inflamming my gut at the time. I think dairy is okay for a lot of people. But it's just when your gut's a wreck, you really don't need something that's going to possibly further inflame it and be mucous producing. But the biggest thing was gluten-free. That was because gluten in the gut, it increases zonulin production, which causes the gut lining to go from this to this.

And you don't want that because then everything gets out and goes into the gut lymphoid tissue around the gut. And then that causes that it's not supposed to be there. So the body says, hey, that's not supposed to be there and just gets really inflamed. Do you think it's the gluten or the glyphosate? I think for some people it's the gluten. I think the glyphosate is a huge problem. I mean, if we look at glyphosate, it is an antibiotic, basically. It causes fungal overgrowth.

There's so many, it's carcinogen. Like there's so many issues with it. But I also think that gluten for some people, it's just going to increase onulin and cause that gut lining to just separate and decrease those tight junctions. Is seeing a naturopath as good as seeing a family physician? I think it's better. It's different. Some are wonderful. There are some that are more medicalized, though. So how do you know, how do you know if they are or not? You have to ask. I cannot, I make no recommendations for provider referrals because you just don't know. I tell people to go on their local mom crunchy group, holistic mom group on Facebook, which I know is a horrible way to find, but like that is the best way and ask for a personal recommendation for a natural provider. I think or ask your friend groups, find a local community that is. more crunchy, go to the farmer's markets and do things like that to find a community that has a more

holistic approach. Ask your chiropractor. If you go to a chiropractor, they might have some good provider recommendations because some naturopaths are more medicalized and some are not. And I hate saying that. I don't want to get hate for it. But at the same time, it's the truth. There are some functional medicine doctors that I wouldn't refer to either because some are more medicalized. They just do a supplement instead of a pharmaceutical. And it's still not, it's still a band-aid approach. There are a lot of functional medicine doctors who are liking Ozempic. What do you think about that? I used to prescribe sexenda for weight loss. This was at a time when I was trying to not work as much and be part-time with my kids and I found a job that did weight loss. And I, and sexenda is the

same thing as OZempeg pretty much. It's in the same family of drugs. And I had patients to lose weight on it, but then they gained the weight right back if they got off of it. I saw a lot of issues with it, though, too, with the thyroid and the pancreas. And so I don't, I think there is a time in place, though. If we have a patient with multiple comorbidities, there's a way to low dose it that I think could be beneficial for a very small set of the population. The way that it's being prescribed is absolutely not the way that's going to help most people, and it's actually going to injure a lot of people.

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intermittent fasting for women? So this is a position I've changed over the years. I do think it is way overdone for women. I do think there are a lot, because I did it. So that was one of the things I did to heal my gut. I fasted for 36 hours. I did 20 hour fast. And I wrecked my thyroid. After that is when my low progesterone and my thyroid started and the chronic and fatigue. It was a, it's been a journey getting over that. And it helped my gut, though. It really did, but it wasn't the best thing for my thyroid. So for women, I would say the week before your period, absolutely not. No, I don't think you need a fast at all. I think that doing 12-hour fast is great for the blood sugar, which for most women and most people in America, you really need blood sugar stabilization. As long as you are eating high protein in the

morning and then like doing like a.m. to 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. or 7 p.m. to 7.m. am, I would not want somebody skipping breakfast. That is the time of day where you need your protein. You need that to stabilize your blood sugar and give you energy for the rest of the day. So for women, especially. And then also like with working outs, you kind of, I wouldn't even encourage heavy workouts the week before your period. Because it's stress on the body. The body will see the both things as stress on the body. And we don't want that during that precious time. And so I think we have to look at women as, okay, what phase of your menstrual cycle are you at? And when is this going to serve you and knowing, okay, I'm waking up today, this isn't going to serve me well.

I also think it contributes to a lot of body dysmorphia and eating disorder type, especially for women who are trying to lose weight postpartum, and they're like, well, I'll try to do fasting. It's just not the best thing in that type of, in that scenario. What I would focus on is whole foods only, high protein, and just try to limit nighttime eating. Unless you are waking up in the middle of the night, like with a blood sugar drop, then I would say, say do a protein snack before bed. Why has the childhood vaccine schedule exploded to over 70 shots? Money.

We know why because they can't be sued. So in 1986, Ronald Reagan signed into act, which I hate saying that, but he was the one who signed this into law where childhood vaccine manufacturers cannot be sued. They are not liable for any issues that come up with vaccines. And so it went from 1962. We had three vaccinations on the schedule. I think when I was a kid in the 80s, it was like maybe five or six, and then it exploded to 73.

But the thing is that we're treating 17 infectious diseases with these vaccines. They're just giving more doses because they're finding that these antibodies go away. And that's why they keep having to get more and more and more. And the issue with that is you're stimulating the immune system over and over and over. And then you're also getting this mega dose of aluminum that they say is inactive, but it really is. And it's the preservatives. It's the glyphosate in there. I mean, there's formaldehyde in there.

That is also in these vaccines that is causing the body to say, what the heck? And it overreacts and overre responds. And we get this epidemic of allergies and eczema and autoimmune disease. It's in children. Why don't doctors talk about the fact that there can be adverse reactions to them? Because they don't know. What do you mean they don't know? They are told there is no possibility of an adverse reaction.

But don't they see it in their own offices? don't they see it in their practice? A lot of these adverse reactions are not happening within the first few days. So some do. Some it is overnight. And I would say that is more rare. Like SIDS. Yes.

I mean, if there was a study, I don't remember the year, there was a study that showed within a week of D-TAP vaccination, which you get at two, four and six, I believe, two, four and six months. Within a week, SIDS rates increase. Like, it is that bad, but they don't know that. They don't have the time to look at the PubMed. They are busy. I get it. I've been there where you're charting. You're seeing patients.

You're get home. You're charting. You're just trying to live. And you don't have time to research these things. And so that's part of the issue. The other part of the issue, so the studies that went to get these vaccines approved, they only, the clinical trials, they only looked at these children for four days, four to five days after the vaccine was given. Most of the issues that come up are later. It's, oh, they started developing eczema.

They started having more colic. They are having more food sensitivities like eggs and different things that you see come up. But they just don't link it to that. Vaccines are mixed in a peanut-based oil to be produced. That has caused this massive rise in peanut allergies. I mean, we have a tripled rate from, I think in the 90s, a tripled rate of peanut allergy and Trinette allergy. I totally see it because when I was in a lot of peanut allergy. I totally see it.

Because when I was in school, no one, maybe one kid was like, I'm allergic to peanuts. Now, every kid I meet, the parent is like, oh, by the way, they're allergic to peanuts or they're allergic to this. I mean, I just never saw that. I remember growing up, you still got served peanuts on planes and stuff like that. Now they don't even do that because so many people have the allergy. I mean, so that shows you right there how much it's exploded. But it's because, okay, so in infancy, we naturally have a leaky gut. It's supposed we were made that way.

And then we have these antibodies, these antigens being introduced into the body that are mixed in these other, have these particles. So hepatitis B, that has the yeast protein. So how many kids do you know that have eczema? Exema, a lot is due to yeast. Oh, my gosh. And then also parasites can be a factor too, which that's an opportunistic thing that happens. It's like a snowball. Once you start down that hill, it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger because then you have less nutrient absorption, less ability for the body.

to make it right. The body is always for you. The body is not attacking you, but it is a thing where it doesn't have the ability to. It loses all these nutrients. And so it's trying to fix something, not target something, but it just kind of can't. And so you start needing to replace, you need to fix the gut and you need to replenish nutrients. In your opinion, as a nurse practitioner, which childhood vaccines are absolutely necessary and which should parents hesitate on? So what I say is I want to give you the information so that you can make the best decision for your family. I did not know then what I know now. And if I have the chance to do it over again, I will absolutely make a different decision for my children, knowing my children's risk.

So you don't know your child's risk. It's like Russian roulette. And so there are ones that are, I think, more beneficial for certain populations. What does that mean certain population? So tetanus is in the cow manure and in farm animal manure and it's mixed with like rested farm equipment and then you have a puncture wound that happens. If the wound bleeds, you're okay. You make you clean it and you should be okay.

There are things you can do. A tetanus vaccine after the fact is not going to help, which is what they would do. They would give a person a tetanus vaccine. And most of the time those people that have that puncture wound that haven't been vaccinated before but get it after it, it's not going to make a. difference. They are not going to develop tetanus because it doesn't really happen that much, even with being vaccinated. That is a population where I'm like, okay, I could see where a farm family would have to make that decision. Most of the time, I'm going to say it's probably not worth the risk

because you have to look at the other preservatives, the excipients, and the other things. Look at your genetics with MTHFR and other genetics that affect methylation, that they are going to be more at risk for an adverse effect. And so then you have to say, okay, we're just going to be mindful of this and be aware that, hey, we don't, you know, we don't step on rested farm equipment in Kalmonewer. That's really what I would do. The D-TAP or the Tetanus vaccine in general was developed during World War II when our men were overseas and they really were exposed to a lot of rusted metal and they were in conditions that were just awful. Today, in today's modern world, we don't need to worry about that. See, and that's the thing I wonder is how many things now

are unnecessary due to just how the world has changed. Okay, so measles. Measles is a vitamin A depletion. Well, it's, obviously, it is an issue. But when it becomes a severe case, it's when there's a vitamin A depletion. Even the Who recommends vitamin A supplementations for measles. But doctors don't even know that.

Most pediatricians don't even know that. They would say, why don't you just get the vaccine? Like, because they don't understand. They are not taught. The American Academy of Pediatrics has nothing about adverse events. They, they don't even think they know what Veyers is. And that's why it's not a reliable source for vaccine adverse effects. Because Vairs, which is a vaccine adverse event reporting system,

theirs, like the doctor has to report it, but they have to know about it and they have to believe it's a thing. And most of the time, they're not going to. Did you grow up doing chickenpox parties? Yeah. I still have a chicken pox scar. What do you think about that? I think that's okay. No one would do that now.

Can you imagine? A lot of moms are. They are looking. If somebody has chickenpox, they say, can I come over? Women like us? Yes. Yes. Cool.

But it is in most, so there is a small subset that, an infancy where they are more at risk. But honestly, it would just be a hospitalization. It would not be a severe case. Then an adulthood, chickenpox is uncomfortable. It's very, it can be a lot different. So I would advise to try to get chickenpox as a child if you can. You don't think the polio one is vital? The polio one is vital.

is different. So a lot of countries in Europe and other countries around the world will give the live vaccine. And I think a lot of the cases that we've seen are from vaccine transmission. Because, and I also think that even the vaccinated population in our country, a lot, if you actually look at someone who develops it, their antibodies are probably low whenever they get, whenever they develop it. Because those antibodies just don't last. It's not the right way to develop immunity to any type of disease. We are totally bypassing the innate immune system with a vaccine. And so that's why they had to increase the boosters. They had to give two doses, three doses, four doses of something because the body does it. It's not the right way to develop immunity. You develop immunity

by having the disease. And so yes, and there are some that do have more complications with some of these diseases, but most of the diseases are not even a thing anymore. So we look at polio and we see the way they have changed, the way they are diagnosing it. So we look at the similar symptoms of like transverse myelitis. So we will see that diagnosis still today, but they won't call it polio. And I think they just, they have just changed the diagnosis. So where they are not going to call it polio, they're going to call it transverse myelitis or they're going to call it, they could call it Guillain Bray, which is the same thing, which is a common vaccine side effect, actually. It's the same thing where you get this paralysis. And so, and that is, it can be fatal. But,

It's funny enough that that is actually a common vaccine side effect. I've actually taken care of a patient with it who almost died. Why do you think it's safe to opt out of vaccines for children? I think it is safe to make the best decision you can, knowing the risks and the benefits. They've done studies. They've done a few, not many, of studies of vaccine versus unvaccinated population. Okay. So Hooker did one.

Molnar, I think, is the other one that did it. And a lot of times they're panned, but there are a few that have gotten through that are peer reviewed. So if we look at this population of unvaccinated versus vaccinated, we look at, we see that this one population that is vaccinated has less chickenpox and has less pertussis. But then we also see on the other side, this unvaccinated population has less ear infections and has less pneumonia, has less eczema, has less neurodevelopmental disorders, has less ADHD, has less autism. I'm not saying that vaccines cause autism. I think it is, I think it's the tipping point. How so? Because there is a genetic makeup that might predispose to some issues.

I'm not saying I don't believe it is genetic. And I believe it is multiple factors together. Is it like your toxin bucket? Yes. Yes, exactly. You have a genetic predisposition to be less able to detoxify. Usually there's something with methylation going on there. Why is it then?

because I feel like also autism, first of all, I think it's overdiagnosed. I don't think as many people have autism, but I still think a lot more people of autism than when we were growing up. So my question is, why would that be exploding? If it's like a toxin bucket overflowing and so then this comes out, like what's going on that's causing methylation issues and then this huge explosion in autism? It's the world we live in. It's the pesticides.

It's glyphosate on literally everything. Even the most careful person that eats organic 100% of the time that is the most careful, they will still have glyphosate in their system. And glyphosate just wrecks the gut. And I just think that it's going to open you up to leaky gut, which is one of the basis for autism, where the gut is just, it doesn't have any barrier at all. And then you have all these proteins leaking out into the lymphoid tissue around it. and the body is just attacking it because it knows it's not supposed to be there.

And so then you have this leaky brain that will happen because of that. And so we need these tight junctions in the body. Everything needs to be where it needs to be and not where it doesn't need to be. So when you have these tight junctions loosen up, it can cause leaky brain, which will then impact autism risk. I think it's also that we do have a population that is just sicker because our parents were exposed to more and then we were exposed to more. their genes changed, and epigenetics, they changed the way the genes were being expressed. So if autism starts showing up, what, in toddler age? Well, that typically starts showing up, I would say, in the first year.

So like in 15 to 18 months, two years. If a parent has a child that likely could have autism, I mean, you don't know until it happens, I guess. But in those first few months of life, like what preventative things can parents be doing or feeding their kids to help curb that as much as possible? The biggest thing, and I mean, this starts during preconception. I mean, this starts during pregnancy. It is what is the mom getting vaccines during pregnancy? And I think that's a lot of heavy metal exposure. And so we look at nourishment for the mom. Is the mom, has the mom been nourishing well? Is her gut absorbing nutrients? Because that's going to be passing on to the child and give the child the nutrients it needs. Could it be a vitamin A deficiency in the pregnant mother? Definitely, but it's not just vitamin A. Vitamin D would be a big vitamin. factor two. Okay. And so, because they're all connected, all of those fat soluble vitamins would be important, but even the B vitamins. And so we look at just overall toxin exposure. It's the hormone disruptors. It's everything. There's, I mean, since the, since the World War II, we've had a massive explosion of chemicals being created that are mostly, a lot of them are endocrine disruptors.

And so it's all of these things. There is a, there's a doctor that is, that uses basically is, blocking hormone production to treat autism, along with other things. It is a factor in many things. So all of these hormone disruptors are affecting these two. It's not just one thing. I do think it's a massive hit to the nervous system, these vaccines, because so you get like two or three at a time, which there's multiple diseases within these combo vaccines. If you're getting all this at once, it's just a massive hit to the nervous system.

And if the nervous system doesn't have the ability to cope, you're going to see this regression. And in some kids, that's why you see them be colicky afterwards, and they're just super irritable for a few days. And some kids, they are able to figure it out. Their body is able to get rid of it or put it away to where it doesn't need to see it. But most kids, I would say you're going to see some type of irritability or change in the nervous system. And I think with a nutrient-depleted mom who has an overwhelming toxin bucket,

maybe she's living at a home with mold. Right. Maybe she has chronic Lyme. you already have this infant that might have more risk. So I do think that is a case where I'm going to say, okay, if I want to prevent autism, I want to look at genetics and I want to look at toxin overload and I want to look at nourishment. There are genetics you can run before, like you can run on the infant or you can run on yourself to look. They're going to be expensive test.

So that's why I, and there are doctors who will look at that and say, okay, this gene makes you more likely that this one's not going to do as well. but they're expensive and not everyone's going to have access to that. And I would just say you just have to decide what's best, but I would try to work on lowering toxin load. Make sure the mom and the baby are pooping that they're eating good food. I would look at formula consumption. I mean, that is another thing. And I know it's a sensitive topic.

I get it. But we look at the seed oils and the inflammatory oils and formula. And it is, it has this leaky gut. I mean, it again does the same thing where it's just so. inflammatory to the body. We look at autism and it's just everything is inflamed. And so we need to cool down these processes and heal the gut and then nourish. If you were to have another child, are there any vaccines that you would be like, my child will be getting this? No. Okay. It is something that I look at what I've been through and what my older children have been through and it's not

worth the risk. Okay. Knowing our mix of what I know now, for me, it is not worth the risk. Now, if somebody isn't comfortable for going all vaccines and they want to do a delayed schedule, what is the maximum amount that you think they should do in a day? One. Okay. Single.

Okay. Okay. But I still think there are many that. aren't even like needed. Like tech, I mean, they aren't applicable to today's world. And so we still have to look at each one. And I think there are some people who like, maybe they travel out of the country a lot and they're going to a third world country that has or that might get live vaccines or another

country that might get live vaccines. And you have to look at weighing the risk of vaccine transmission. So, I mean, I guess what's really overwhelming and if I were to have a child today, this would overwhelm me. if there's over 70 recommended ones on this schedule, who has lists somewhere? Like, where can somebody go? What book, what paper goes through each one and basically helps them figure out, is this even applicable in today's world?

Like, who has that listed? So I do think like turtles all the way down. I think Desolving Illusions book Vax Unvax by Robert Kennedy Jr. I think those three are, that is really science-based. And so for the dads that need the science, that might be a good one. But those, the first two are more looking at the history of them and looking at whether they're needed. I will look at Paul Thomas. Dr. Paul Thomas, he has, I mean, he's lost his license.

Okay. So that guy, this is interesting to me. He wrote the vaccine friendly plan. And then am I crazy in thinking that he now came out and said, I regret, I should have just said I wouldn't do any. Like now I've changed my mind. He has. Wow. Yeah.

And it sucks. He needs to do a reedition of his book. He probably will. I imagine he would. But the thing is that he has been attacked on all fronts. They've tried to ruin his life. They've totally stripped his license. They called it Wakefielded, which is the first researcher that came out with an autism, a vaccine-causing autism paper. And they totally discredit him. He lost everything. And it is something that he totally, I mean, he got attacked. And he did a study in his office of the unvaccinated versus vaccinated. And it was a totally, it was a totally, it was. a third party that did it. It wasn't him. And they discredited it. But it is a really good analysis of looking at the vaccinated population versus the unvaccinated. So if you look at Paul Thomas, he has said he was doing a delayed schedule. And now I really think he is not for any. And that is because our population is sicker and it's less able to handle these vaccines than it was before.

What about meningitis vaccine for 12 years old? So there are tons of bacteria. There are tons of viruses every day. I mean, every day. So we have to stop being so scared of these things because it's everywhere. Why is the body not able to handle this bacteria? So I think we have to look at the way they're living. You know, are they eating tons of processed junk and food dyes and all the things?

are they super stressed? Kids aren't really allowed to be kids anymore, and they're just going from activity to school to activity to school, and they're not sleeping, and they're anxious, and they're on social media. And these are all things that are just setting up a person to be more at risk. And so I would look at that first. I do not think that that risk, the risk of menigitis outweighs the risk of the meningitis vaccine for my family and our genetics and our makeup personally. Until recently, I'd actually never heard that patients and embryologists in an IVF clinic are encouraged to not wear any scented perfumes, lotion, scented laundry detergents or deodorants for embryo transfers. That's because the chemicals in synthetic fragrances can have a detrimental effect on fertility. If we know that those chemicals are so powerful that they can hinder an embryo transfer, why do we use products with them at all?

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The sacral dimple and the sugar bug vein are a sign of MTHFR. So the sugar bug vein is a little blue vein that is like right here in most kids. And that is a sign of poor methylation. And then the sacral dimple, which we are seeing. I mean, I've done lots of well-child checks. That's a little dimple like above your tailbone or whatever. Mm-hmm. Oh, my gosh.

I'm trying to think if I have that. Well, so at infancy, all that we do is do an ultrasound to make sure it's not attached to anything. It's not, and there's nothing deeper. But in infancy, what they would do is do an ultrasound to make sure that there's nothing else going on. But most of the time, there's not. But my daughter has a saco dental. She also has a sugar bug ring. That's one of the reasons why I know we have a.

we have a methylation issue. And that's one of the reasons why I know that we're not going to get any vaccines. And so it's not so much as an ability to reverse it because, you know, that may not happen. But it is just something to be aware of. For parents who choose not to juice their kids, is there anything that they should do differently or be mindful of? Not really. So not in a way that would affect their life in any big way. Like they don't have to live in a bubble or a glass bowl.

No. I do think if you have a child going to daycare around a bunch of other 15-month-olds that just got the live virus vaccines, that would be, that would be, you know, like that that's a concern. Do I, what I worry about it to not send them to daycare? Probably not. I think you have to look at the child and look at the family. How are they functioning as a family? I do think that this just goes back to how are we living as a society. I mean, we're not seeing our kids five days a week.

And so that is just something that it's a hard topic. But I think that that can change the way you view it. But I would say no. I would say I would want them to get something called the unvaccinated child. It's a book, but written by two naturopaths that is really helpful. I also have some resources available on, I think, in my ebook and then also on my page for children, dealing with illnesses that are prevented by vaccines. But it's most of that it's like pertussis, which isn't going to be, you know, a life-threatening

thing, but it's something that needs to be mindful of. I've talked about it in my podcast, in the first four episodes of our podcast, we talked about what to do if you are concerned, if you have a puncture ruined and you're concerned about tetanus. You have kind of an unpopular opinion for wellness visits in the crunchy community. I got a lot of hate for that. Tell us about it. So I just think a paper trail is needed in today's world.

Why? Because medical kidnapping is a real thing. It depends on the doctor that you're seeing in the ER. And you take your child and God forbid something's really wrong and you need to be hospitalized. And they go to get the pediatrician records and there are none. That will immediately, and then they know you're not vaccinated. They will immediately be highly suspicious. And I've seen it happen.

I'm just what. Like are you a fit parent? Yeah. Of neglect. That's what they'll say. Do I think it has to be with a pediatrician? No. I think an objective set of eyes, and even not in pertaining to vaccines, even just an objective

set of eyes to look at your child, discuss things with you, and just encourage you. I think it's just a good thing. It could be a naturopath. It could be a chiropractor. As long as they're doing actual visits where they're discussing issues with you and it's not just a quick visit, I think that's a really great thing to have multiple providers that you can share records with and say, this is the care that we've been providing our children. I don't think medical kidnapping is something that's going to happen to most people. But if, God forbid, they have a life-threatening illness and they're in the hospital, I want them to have record. So why was this take so controversial with people in the crunchy community?

Because most people do not have access to a provider that will see them if they don't vaccinate. And that is a shame. Right. So what are they supposed to do? Find a naturopath, a chiropractor, a family medicine. A lot of family docs are a lot more open-minded. Find a concierge medicine provider. They're typically more open-minded.

Ask ahead. There are several lists going around that have vaccine-friendly providers on there. I don't think it has to be like you go all the time. I just think every now and then it's good to have a checkup that you have something on paper. Yeah. How often if you're not doing the vaccine schedule, how often should you do wellness visits? So I, if I had another child, I would do the newborn. I think the newborn time, honestly, it's having done a lot of well checks, which involve no vaccines,

I would say that the newborn time, there's just a lot of questions. And you want to be able to look at the Billy Rubin level if there's any jaundice. Like, there's just some things that would just be helpful. So I would say newborn visits, I would say, you know, maybe three or four months, maybe six or nine months. And then after that, maybe a year. And then you just decide what's best for them. I do think even once a year could be a good thing for children. It's just once a year visit.

I know it's a sensitive topic. But if they could just have an objective set of eyes to help them with the paper trail and to help them answer any questions that they have, I think most parents would want that. They want. They want if someone to help them with just random questions that they have. So if you are foregoing vaccines for your kid and your pediatrician is very pro-vaccine, what do you tell moms to say to that pediatrician of why you don't want them? Well, I probably wouldn't tell them to go there because they're probably going to get shamed.

Okay. And guilted. And that is, it's hard. As a parent to sit in the office and have a doctor shaming you for a decision that you're making for your child. And then them not even be able to explain the pros and cons or even the ingredients in the vaccine. It is hard to do. If you've got a pretty low-key pediatrician and maybe they're not even mad about it, but they are saying, well, why are you making this decision?

What could a parent say? I would say, well, can you tell me what's in the vaccines? Can you tell me why I should worry about polio in today's modern world? Can you tell me what contaminants are in the vaccine? Can you tell me how long these kids were studied after they got the vaccine? You know, how do we know that there wasn't any other adverse events that happened afterwards. When you get a vaccine at a well-child visit, you don't get the vaccine insert. That is like an 80-page thing. And that actually does tell you a lot of information, but you don't get it. And you

get to something called a vaccine information sheet. And it basically says nothing. Like if they're irritable, give Tylenol, which actually is the worst thing you could do. Wait. So giving Tylenol is the worst thing you can do? Okay. No, no, after a vaccine. If you give Tylenol, they have shown an increase risk of autism after a vaccine. Really? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I'm not saying that to judge anybody because I actually gave Tylenol to my youngest

after the Votavirus vaccine because she was screaming for hours. And I look at my, I still remember where I was sitting in my living room. Oh, because some kids will be in pain after the vaccines. You want to give them something. So what would you say to do instead of Tylenol? I would do homeopathy probably. Like what? And nurse.

Depends on what they're presenting. So homeopathy is where you have to, you have to match the symptom. with the remedy. Is this the thing that's like a bunch of little white tablets? Or they're liquid. Or they're liquid. Okay. And so you can water dose it where you do like a drop in some water and they take and you

would probably pull in a syringe and like give a little little sips of it to the baby. Or you would do a crushed up pellet for a baby. And where do you get this? Well, you used to be able to get at Whole Foods, but they don't sell it at Whole Foods anymore. I know. They took it away. I was traveling for the podcast and I wanted something. I don't remember what was going on with me and I was wanting something.

And I went to Whole Foods and they were like, oh, we're not doing that anymore. Why? Because the FDA probably breathed down their neck and said it doesn't. They don't work is what they would say. Oh, my gosh. They're not going to say they're harmful because they know they're not harmful, but they're going to say they don't work. But they do.

A lot of times parents struggle with being a homeopathic prescriber in their home because they don't know how to match the remedy. And the issue is they get the wrong remedy and nothing will happen. No side effects will happen. But they get the wrong remedy and it doesn't change what's going on. And so if you can learn homeopathy and really learn how to match the remedy, I am telling you it can change. I have seen it change longstanding coughs to my children. Really?

I've seen it help really acute pain. There are so many things you can do with anxiety, panic attacks. I mean, I have seen it change so many things. There are some good books that you can do. There's one on Amazon called The Homeopath in Your Hand, I think. and that would be a good reference guide. There are some courses that you can take that really help you to learn how to match these remedies. Do you like the idea of taking a sick child to a chiropractor versus pediatrician?

Depends on what's going on. Okay. So if they're just like a run in the middle like sick, sure. Because the chiropractor is going to have probably some supplements that would help you if you don't have any at home. And that might help you be able to with the illness. I would say if they are having severe abdominal pain, no, I probably would have that checked out. Any type of severe abdominal pain, any type of severe symptom that is uncharacteristic for your child and you are concerned, I want you to get medical evaluation. I want them to rule out the pathology.

Most of the time, it's not going to be an issue. Like there's not going to be any big thing going on. But I think it's good to rule that out. I know a lot of parents are scared to go in to be seen at a medical evaluation. But that's why it's so important to ask around and find a provider. You could go to a naturopat. They probably would be able to help a little bit more. Chiropractors for like abdominal pain or something like that, maybe.

It depends on the type of chiropractor. So the one that I work with, I would go to him for abdominal pain. But if it's a- Dr. Charlie, yes. For your podcast. But if it's a severe, acute thing where it's going on in that moment, what do you call him? You don't want to wait for. What is he? What type of chiropractor is he that he understands, like, all these things about the body?

It's frequency medicine. Frequency medicine. And it's applied kinesiology. And so there are chiropractors all over the country. There aren't tons, but there are some all over the country that do this type of chiropractic care, where they are doing muscle testing and frequency medicine. That, I believe, is the future of the holistic world where you're, because we all are energetic beings. And in the Christian world, this is something that is so misunderstood. But you have to, we're just energetic being.

It's an EKG. It's a pulse ox. If you go to the hospital and they put a pulse ox for oxygen and they can see your pulse rate, that is an energetic, it's an electrical thing. And so it's the same type of thing. Now, is every muscle test are going to be the same? No. And that's but every provider, every doctor's not the same. And so it's finding the right one.

But I'm telling you, if you can find the right one, they can help with a lot of things. But still, in an acute, severe abdominal pain situation, I would still warrant medical evaluation and then go and say, see your frequency doctor or chiropractor or, you know, a naturopath or whatever, whatever provider you have. Have you heard of any links between Gardasil and PCOS? Yes. Really? But it's not just PCOS.

Oh. It's also premature ovarian failure, which is so much worse. We have teenagers and going into menopause, and they don't know why, but there are studies that support this. And it's not just, it's not just one thing. So PCOS, first of all, Gardasil is the most reported adverse events to bears. Gardasil, this is Candacee-Owen's vaccine injuries from Gardasil. Is it not?

I got Gardasil. And when it first came out. Well, I did too. Because I remember being a teenager when it first came out and them saying, oh, girls should have this in case you know, you're having sex. And I wasn't. And I never did throughout high school. But they scared me so much. And I was like, well, would I ever?

What happens if I do? And then I don't have this. And, you know, of course, there's. having that conversation with me as a, I don't know, 15-year-old, 16-year-old without my parent in the room. So I have no idea what I'm agreeing to. Yeah. Anyway. It's the most, there are the most adverse events.

And it's the most, it's autoimmune disease. Autoimmune disease, like triples eight times risk of asthma after a cortisol. And it's not just one thing. So it's this inflammatory state that it sets up. And there's this immune reaction that they're thinking is what's causing PCOS. So I think it has something to do with testosterone. And it's stimulating testosterone. and women. And I think it also has to do with this, how are they living prior? So insulin resistance

is a big marker with PCOS. It's a big factor for PCOS. And so if we have a woman or a girl who is maybe more sedentary, or if we have an athlete who might have more testosterone, maybe they are super athletic and they probably do have more testosterone going through their system than another girl, then you're probably going to have more likelihood of this developing. On the other side, you have a sedentary girl who might be eating a ton of processed foods and has a little insulin resistance because a lot of kids do today, they're going to be more likely to have a side effect. The other issues with Gardasil epiots is a huge one. Have you heard of that?

It's Postural Orthosatic Tachycardia syndrome. And that is where you stand up and you just feel dizzy. You have a lot of dizziness and vertigo after Gardasil. It's not just one thing that is causing these issues to develop. But PCOS is a massive issue for women today. The birth control pill can also cause after the birth control bill can cause PCOS too. And that is causing women to not be able to get pregnant because they're not, they're not ovulating. I have a question for you about birth control.

So I was just on Megan Kelly's show. And it was funny. I don't think Megan knows how much I speak out against hormonal birth control for women. And Megan just made a comment something like, and, you know, I don't understand why all these conservative women. or speaking out against birth control. I love birth control. Cleared up my acne, regulated my cycle.

So what is your response when somebody, because I mean, I have heard that. Well, birth control was great for me. I didn't have any of these side effects you're talking about. And it did clear up my acne and all these different things. So I guess my question is, yes, maybe something in birth control did help that. But it could have been helped with something else, I'm assuming.

You didn't have to only take hormonal birth control. So what would you say to that person? Correct. I would say that the reason that it's helpful, is because it's shutting the system down. It's shutting down your reproductive system. And then and you're not, you're not ovulating. And we've actually, like, you need to ovulate. As women, we need to ovulate. This, it's a protective thing. The ovulation is where you get the progesterone. And progesterone is so needed by women today. I would say most women are progesterone deficient.

Because progesterone is like your calming hormone. This is like Xanax for the brain. It does the same thing in the brain as Xanax. And if we don't have progesterone, that's your progestation. hormone. Like that is how you're going to get pregnant. And so that's why a lot of women need progesterone when they're pregnant to be able to keep the pregnancy during the first trimester. And so, and we see this birth control helps with hormonal headaches, but it's because it helps with the fluctuations. But it shuts it down. And then why is that bad? So what's wrong with that? Like for her who had no adverse side effects, was able to get pregnant, fine, you know, has a beautiful family. And she's like, I don't get what all the, what? what all the fuss is about because of the synthetic hormones. So these are, it's not progesterone

you're being given in birth control or estrogen. You're also thickening the blood. You're increasing the risk for clots. You're increasing the risk for breast cancer. You're decreasing the risk for ovarian cancer, but ovarian cancer is much lower rate than breast cancer. So the answer would be, yes, that may have helped you, but there was also a lot of unknown risk that you took on physically. and you could have fixed those things probably just getting some tests done and figuring out, are you high or low in estrogen or progesterone or whatever? And a lot of times acne is because of a fungal issue. And then we get birth control, which, I mean, there is, there are multiple studies and many providers who will say the fungal issues after birth control are rampant.

I mean, that was me. That was me. That was me. That was so many women. And that can impact your ability to get pregnant. And that can impact, I mean, that. chronic yeast infections is one thing with birth control, but other things too. And so I would say it's going to make those problems worse, especially after you get off

birth control and want to get pregnant. Like that's going to make those problems worse for some women. There are some women who have no issues and maybe they don't have those genetic mutations where they are, because it affects methylation too. Birth control affects methylation. So maybe there are some women who don't have these genetic mutations and who are, are super, eat super clean, and they handle it okay. But again, it's like Russian roulette.

You really don't know what you're going to get. Right. And so that's why we need not to ban birth control. That's what I'm not, no, I've never heard anyone advocate for that, but it's this idea of informed consent. Correct. Because it is Russian roulette and you have no idea. And so the problem is that we're over prescribing.

We're just giving it as a bandaid to everyone. Well, they're not even prescrib. I mean, you can get it over the counter now. That's true. I mean, so it's like, and like these girls have no idea what's, what it's, what it's causing for the future for them. And so, and then, like, we're causing this gut dysbiosis that's going to set them up for further gut infections and then increase their susceptibility to Lyme or mold or other things. Like, it's all about, like, the snowball effect where you just keep going down the hill

and then you keep getting more and more things. And it's, I think it just birth control just sets up the body to not be able to handle things well. And so the other thing is it's exogenous estrogen and that your liver has to metabolize that. And we already have a lot of estrogens. And we already have a lot of estrogens in our world today. I mean, they're like a BPA, you look at phallates, you look at all these toxic chemicals that we're being supposed to that women are putting on their body every day. It's just more estrogen that your body does not need. And that will actually cause more heavy periods than anything. What do you think about the go-to being if you've PCOS, we've diagnosed you with PCOS, you're having trouble getting pregnant. Let's go ahead and start you on IVF.

Oh gosh, that's like, that is such a jump. I mean, that is such a jump. So IVF, And this is such a sensitive topic. Like, I don't think I've ever spoken about it. I know Allie Beth Suckie has, and I think she's a warrior for doing that because it is a sensitive subject. But it is a lot of hormones for the woman. And it's a lot of things. I mean, there's just a lot, there's a lot of questions that need to be asked about IVF. There's some ethical and moral issues.

There's some ethical and moral stuff too. I understand a woman wanting to get pregnant. I'm there, too. Like, I get it. But I also think we have to look at what all that woman's being exposed to. does that set them up for cancer later in life? IVF is fairly new. Do we have the studies that 20 years from now?

So like our moms were taking birth control in the 60s, which had massive amounts of estrogen, and they all have breast cancer now, and the rates of cancer have massively increased. And so IVF is new, and we don't know long term what really the risks are for these cycles. That being said, I'm not going to judge any woman for doing IVF. If you want a baby and this is the only avenue,

I think that's okay, but I think there are other avenues. Okay. I think that there are so many things you can do. I mean, we look at Inositol. We look at KU10. We look at if it's a fungal or blood sugar issue, there are some lifestyle changes that definitely need to be made. We look at supporting methylation.

And there's just so much you can do that, but you have to ask the questions and you have to say, okay, I'm willing to try this first. And it is a long game. It's not going to be like, hey, you're going to be fixed overnight. But neither is IVF. IVS is not a fast process either. Right.

And it's not a, for sure solution. IVF fails too. And it's very expensive. And so these women are like out of what, how much is IVF? Like $25,000? Yep. These women are out $50,000. And it's like, could we have tried something else first?

And I do think it's possible. But I think that if you've done that route and you're still not getting pregnant and you're really want a baby, then you have to make the best decision for you. Do you have any suggestions on how to heal from a vaccine injury? That is something you would have to go see a provider in person. It is not, it's going to be individual. It's not going to be the same. So especially if it's a baby, I would do, I mean, homeopathy is probably what I would go to.

I would recommend a bioresonant scan. I like one that's using the Quest 4 machine because I think it's the most accurate and I've done it with my kids. And I would do a bioresonant scan or see a practitioner in person. I think that it's a very specialized practitioner, so it's not just any. There are a lot of doctors out there, though, that are on, like, Instagram and different places that you can find that will see patients virtually. It's definitely not going to be a – for some, it could be a fast process. But what is a vaccine injury?

Is it – are we talking autism or are we talking excema? Because I would consider – especially like a chronic eczema case, I would consider that a vaccine injury. I mean, that could be debilitating for some kids. And so are we talking about reversing food allergies that have happened all after vaccines? And so it's going to be a different solution for everybody. In your opinion, what is responsible for the high rates of infertility we're seeing? The things that we've talked about, birth control, I think, is one factor.

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I have just a total hodgepodge of listeners submitted questions for you. They were so excited when they found out I was having you on. So these are just random things. They're like, if I could ask her anything, this is what I would ask. What are some good remedies for seasonal allergies? Oh, gosh, there's so many. There's great. Okay.

So DeHis Jr. is one that I like because it's a chewable and it's got quercitant and knack or NAC in stinging nettles, bromelin, which is from pineapple. It thins mucous. I love DeHis Jr. I think that's great. I love stinging, like nettles, herbal infusions. Yeah, so every time I travel and I'm going to another state, especially like in spring,

I just went to a couple different places during spring and I knew I was going to be around stuff that was going to jack up my allergies. I did a little shot glass of some stinging nettle. I did like one teaspoon. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so they have tinctures and then they have like, you can make a tea with it. I did a tincture.

And so I think either is fine. I think that's great. I also think that, so like, like, clear nasal spills. X-L-E-A-R-K-Kids nasal spray. So a lot of kids, when they come in from outside, they start having all these, like, histamine symptoms. You need to clean out their nasal passages. And they might benefit, if they're really bad,

they might benefit from taking off her clothes and changing your clothes, even showering. Because, like, where I live in Kentucky, I can wipe the pollen off of my car. You know what? That is a really good idea, especially because I've had Jenny Urich on this show, a thousand hours outside.

We're trying to get these kids outside more. And so if your kid is an allergy person, I never thought about coming in, let's change your clothes. Yeah. Yeah, because it's still on them and they're going to keep reacting to it. And so, and washing their hands, you know, because you're touching all the grass and everything. So I would say to start with some lifestyle stuff, I would say also it's probably something that's filling the histamine bucket.

And so if you are a chronic allergy sufferer, we have to look at your food intake. And I would first say gluten and dairy. And so if it's a chronic, I'm talking like it's during spring and fall, you are just miserable. I would consider gluten and dairy-free for six weeks or so and just see how you feel. If somebody has to take antibiotics, has to. What is your post-antibiotic protocol? I am not anti-antibiotics, first of all.

I do want to say that. I gave my child antibiotics this spring. But if you want to avoid it. I'm saying, but if you have to take it, I mean, it does like totally screw up your gut microbiome. Oh, yeah. So what should you do after to kind of repair it? Definitely.

So I would say, there's a few things. You want to protect against fungus. that's what's contributing to this yeast issue is all these antibiotics. I mean, I used to in the immediate care center when I was a conventional nurse practitioner, we would have women. We would just automatically give them the dipoleucan with their antibiotic because they knew they would have a yeast infection after the antibiotic. That's fungal, fungal issues after antibiotics are the biggest issue. So for kids, this is a big thing too. And so I like something called scudillaria Supreme. It's a, it's from Supreme Nutrition, or it's just so you can go find a tincture with scuttlearia. And I

like that as an antifungal that's gentle. So I can give it to kids. I can give it to pregnant women. I can give it to nursing women. It's super safe. That single herb is very good. I also would do something like a megaspore probiotic or some type of, but you have to be careful with probiotics. Probiotics are not the answer to everything because a lot of probiotic strains are more histamine producing. And at that point, you're already going to have a lot of histamine. How do you know if it is? I think probiotics are just given to everyone. and they're so promoted and they're just like this answer for gut health and they're not. Uh-oh. But, no, it's okay.

They're not like awful. For some people, they're fine, especially if you don't struggle with histamine. It might be fine. But it's also like you don't necessarily need to stay on it forever. So it just depends on what's all going on. But they're not my first go-to. But after antibiotics or if I have a baby that had a C-section or if I had a baby that was exposed to antibiotics in pregnancy or in delivery, I might say, yeah, I would do a little

probiotic. There's an infant one by smidge that I like. So it just depends. You would just do a little bit of it. Sometimes you can do a little bit of the powder on the mom's nipple when they're nursing. And that would be fine. So I would do something to help with the yeast and something to help with the bacteria. I might add in a little mega mucosa to help with the gut lining depending on what's going on.

And that might be for more older children. What do you think about olip and poppy? As I have a poppy in my refrigerator at home right now. I love them. I, okay, so I don't think you should look to them to cure any gut issues. Right. Like that is, I don't like the marketing. I think there's a lawsuit actually right now about Poppy.

But I also want to say there be, it's an allegation. Nothing has been proven. Right. So somebody is saying, I don't think that this really does anything. And so they're suing them. Well, somebody's looking to sue for every reason under the sun. So we don't know. Obviously, you.

You can't count on that for your total prebiotic, you know, situation. But I think if I'm, if I have a choice between an olipop and a doctor pepper, I think it is a healthier choice to choose that if I wanted a little treat. Sure. Sure. I am, the other day, we made rip beer floats. I had some ice cream at home that was quality, really good ice cream. And we had an olive pop rip beer and we can make it at home.

It's okay. I don't think it's, okay, if you have a lot of gut issues, you're not going to tolerate a ton of olip and poppy. And so because it's, they're just, there's prebiotics in there and it might make you bloated and gassy. And so it just depends on if like you're pretty healthy. I sure, go for it. Have them every day. My kids have had one. Like I don't, but I don't think I would do it like as an every day, all day thing if you do.

Because it's going to make you more bloated. Magnesium can be confusing because there's so many different types. Can you talk about what are the different types and then what does each type do? What are they for? So magnesium citrate is the one for constipation. That is the one that you see in like magnesium calm gummies. And it's like that's not going to calm the kid, but it is going to help them poop, which will help calm the kid. Because we all know kids who aren't pooping are more behavior.

Like they have a lot more behavior issues. And so I would say that could be helpful for them pooping and behavior, but that's not going to help as much with calming. Poop and act right, please. I mean, really, though, most kids are not pooping today as much as they need to be. So citrate is going to help for adults and kids needing to poop. Glycinate is for anxiety and, like, for sleep. That's what I would do for anxiety and sleep. Magnesium malate is the one that I would take in the morning.

That's more for energy. Oh, yeah. So, but there are combination ones. And so, like, bio-optimizers has, like, all seven of, and, like, orotates more for blood pressure. I think tarates more for the liver because it has the tarine component. I would say if I want it multiple things, I would get a combo. Okay, because I alternate between citrate and glycinate. Like I'll do glycinate at night and citrate the morning if I haven't pooped because I've Hashimoto, so I definitely struggle with pooping regularly.

So anyway, TMI for my team. They're used to it by now. But, yeah, I wonder if I should just do a bio-optimizer or if it's okay to just... You could just keep doing what you're doing. Is magnesium one of those things that's like, it's great if you want to take that every day for the rest of your life? Correct. Okay. Well, that is because we are so magnesium depleted as a population.

Like vitamin D, I'm always going to have to take. I am so vitamin D deficient. And if you are taking vitamin D, you need to be taking magnesium and you probably need some vitamin K2. Yeah, I'm doing the D3K2. Yeah. And so I would say, but in... and magnesium because vitamin D supplementation depletes magnesium. Ooh.

So not saying that you shouldn't supplement vitamin D, but we shouldn't go hard on vitamin D and forget magnesium. Okay. So I would say a lot of people would benefit from just a combo magnesium supplement. But if you have, if you have constipation or another good one for like really as D to constipation, like say you're traveling and you haven't pooped in like several days, magnesium oxide. It's a, it's a great product that can just, that will work. That's like an immediate laxative?

Yeah, well, the next day probably. I mean, not like... What's the difference between that and the citrate? They're just different forms of magnesium. Okay. And so I, the citrate is more of like a, that's going to be a daily. That could be a daily thing if you're struggling with constipation. Okay.

But then you have magnesium and the magnesium glycinate at night. Sometimes I do a combo one. Sometimes I do single ones and I just rotate things. I think it's good that we learn to not be so regimented in our, like, our practices. And I rotate. I change what I take daily often, not every day, but often because we need different things as we go through that life. Do you trust the brand neosporin for scrapes? No. Even as a conventional nurse practitioner, we did not recommend it.

So I would be doing stitches or I would have a person come back in. They said they'd been using neosporin on their stitches and they would have this massive rash around their stitches. And it's like it was the most hyper, like it's the most hypersensitive reaction. that they find. Most people are reacting to neosporne today. And so it's not needed. Bacetracin is another good one that's over the counter. If you want an antibiotic topical, do basotracin. But I also think we rush to those things where we don't always need. Well, I thought it just helps heal it faster. No. It could, I mean, if you have a wound, it would moisten it up, which can help a little bit with the healing process. Okay, so let me tell you

what I've been doing. And this might be like, why are you doing that? This is insane. does nothing stop, which is fine. Tell me. If I, like, I cut myself with a knife on my thumb or something a few months ago. And I put raw honey, local raw honey on my Band-Aid and put it on. Yeah, there's actually a Manuka honey ointment for Band-Aid, or for healing, healing wounds and cut. So I use that. I also use something called Active Skin Repair. And that is just, you can use that on rashes. You can use that on so many things. Okay. So I'm not crazy because I had felt like, Like that was right. Yes.

Okay. I can do it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're fine. I think, I mean, Manuka Honey for Empitego. I mean, like, there's so many uses for it.

And so, yeah, I would be totally fine with that. Cool. Okay. I feel proud of myself that I need to do that. Okay. Yeah. I just think not rushing to a straight antibiotic is, is a good thing. Yeah.

I think using something that's a little more gentle, but is cleansing. So we're throwing out neosporine. I would throw out neosporne. Yes. I think I think I can clearly say that and it not be too. nobody's really going to disagree if they understand. Yes. Okay.

What tips do you have to recover quickly from a cold? Well, I also, so I think some of it is we also need to be okay with being sick. I think in our world today, no one wants to get sick because they don't want to slow down. And we need to slow down something. Your adrenals, your body is, we all know that when we're super stressed, you get sick more. And so my first thing was, well, if you need a couple days rest, maybe you need a couple days rest. if it's lingering and still going on and like you got somewhere to be, vitamin C, I would do, I would probably do some zinc in that moment.

I think daily zinc is probably not something I would do, but in the moment of a cold, I would do some zinc, some rishi mushroom, some things like that astragalus that might help with that help boost your immune system. There's tons of herbal teachers out there that have like echinacea or elderberry. Those are all fine things to do. If I had a, oh, and homeopathy. So I love some homeopathic remedies to really help with like a cold in the moment, like cold calm by boron.

That's great in the moment. But I would say if it's lingering, I would want to go more of the herbal route and support that immune system. Will you be getting regular mammograms? No. Why? Because they have shown that more mammograms just mean more mammograms. and they actually to overdiagnosis of issues that the body will resolve. I don't think it's the best way to look at a problem.

So we're squishing, literally squishing a very sensitive breast. And this is a very sensitive part of your body that's really needed for hormones. There's a lot of hormones there. There's a lot of lymph nodes there. We don't want to be squishing it and putting a massive dose of radiation right on that area. And a lot of times it just leads to more mammograms. And like, okay, and then you find out six months later that they get breast cancer or they have breast cancer after having two rounds of mammograms. And so that's not the best way. I would say the best way is thermography and

ultrasound and self-breast exams. I think that's the best thing you can do is being aware what your breast look like and feeling them, touching them, making sure that they don't have, you know, any lumps or anything like that. If you have, you know, any lumps or anything like that, if you have, a lot of like fibrocystic breast disease if you have a lot of cyst, you will probably need something like an MRI. But they've even shown that mammograms are not helpful for a woman with fibrocystic breast disease. So I would say for me personally, I don't think that it is the best decision because it's just a ton of radiation on a very sensitive area of the body. Do you avoid going through the thing, the TSA thing? I have and I haven't. So if I am in a rush and I and it's

backed up and I'm almost late for my plane, I, would, I would just go through it. If I was pregnant, absolutely not. Oh, interesting. I am not a super strict person. I don't stress about any one thing. So if I went through it, I just take a binder to bind up the heavy metals or the radiation, and then I just don't worry about it. Make sure you're hydrating, maybe some vitamin C. If you don't have a binder, just do some vitamin C and hydrate. Yeah, I fly a lot. So I wonder if I need to start saying no. You know, if you fly a lot, that's something, especially if you are there early enough, I would be, I would be like more likely to say, okay, can you just do the pat down?

But I also would say, if you are in a rush, I wouldn't stress about that one thing. Right. There are so many in the holistic community that are stressing about every little one thing. And they're just so stressed that that's wrecking their nervous system and making them more likely to develop all kinds of issues. Just go through it if you're in a rush and then try to do the pat down next time. Should we be keeping newborns out of the sun or putting them in the sun? In the sun? But not directly.

So sunlight is wonderful for jaundice and for newborns to break down that billy-rubin. And I actually tell moms when they had like the billy-rubin was a little elevated or they were looking a little, you know, like they needed some help. Nurse in the sun. Go outside. If it's 90 degrees and you have a newborn, I wouldn't go out at noon, you know. Go in the morning, go when it's a little bit, when it's a little bit cooler, when it's not direct sunlight. I wouldn't get them burned. But, well, do they need to have the flap on their stroller?

Like, is it bad for the sun to be in their eyes? Or is it, like, kind of good? They'll get used to it. Our babies are getting really hot in these strollers. And, like, you know, they cover up everything completely. I actually don't love that in general. I would just cover it and make sure there's good airflow. But I wouldn't, like, you don't have to cover it at all times.

It just look at your child and say, okay, do you think they're hot or okay? Or wear them? And that way, they're mostly covered on you. You know, I think it just depends on the child and on the mom and where you're at and what time of day it is. But I would say we are as a society so fearful of the sun and we shouldn't be. I mean, in the 1800s where they, did they have babies in the sun? Yeah, they had to be. And so we just have to think, okay, let's be smart about it.

I don't want them to get burned. I don't want you to get burned. Are you wearing sunscreen? Are you putting sunscreen on your kids? I have yet. I have a pool and I have yet to put sunscreen on my kids this season and they've been out all day. But that being said, I am smart about it. And I do use sunscreen at times.

If we were going to go down to the beach and be out there at midday, I probably would. And what kind are you using? I use Badger or Think Baby or Think Sport, one of those two. It's a non-nan zinc product. There are so many hormone disruptors. I was at the lake the other day. And someone was spraying sunscreen behind me. And I am not that sensitive to smells, but I was like, wow.

That was a lot. And they're just spraying it all over these. that are just, they're just getting a mouthful of these hormone disruptors. And these, I mean, some of these hormone, like oxybenzone has been shown to lower testosterone. It's been found in breast smell. It decreases the weight of birth weight of infants when moms are exposed to it. It is, these are not good things. But I also think, yeah, I don't want you to get burned.

I want you to cover up and then take breaks, you know, I want you to be mindful of that. And then if you're out in the sun, like you are, say you're at the zoo all day and you are just, you're going to be out in the direct scent. Yeah, I would wear sunscreen. But I wouldn't do it necessarily every day. And I just use a good one if I do use it. Yeah, not banana boat or something. And you do want to make sure you're also going out without sunscreen because of vitamin. We need that.

You need that direct exposure. Your skin needs that. You don't want to get burned, though. You need smart sun exposure. Burns do increase the likelihood of skin cancer, especially like really bad burns. And so I wouldn't want to get burned. But at the same time, I would go out and be exposed to the sun without sunscreen. How do we change a corrupt medical system?

Oh, gosh. We start with the doctors. I mean, with the patient care with them, with talking to them. You have to talk to doctors with respect and go to them because they will just go on an ego trip if you don't. Talk to them with respect and with individual doctor. I don't think we're going to change it from the AAP. I don't think we're going to change it from, you know, these organizations or these schools. I just, I don't have a lot of hope for that.

I think there are some schools that are better. I get asked all the time, what, you know, what nursing school is better or what, what, how do I be a doctor but go to a better medical school? And I asked on my Instagram and I didn't get the best, like, there's just not a lot out there. I think you, there's just a lot of, Dr. Charlie got to start one. There's just a lot of, there's just a lot of funding there that we, it's going to take a lot to change. I honestly, I don't know that it will. I just think we have to live in a world where we're okay with that and just knowing better and asking more questions and just we have to be aware and empowered that it's our body and we can make the choices for our for our family. What advice do you have for the mom or the parent or the or just the woman who is the only one in her friend group who is anti big pharma and feeling like an outcast?

Keep doing it. Be gentle and bring things up when they ask. I have family that's very close to me that is not, does not think like best at all. And I celebrate little wins, you know, I celebrate little things that I can change and then, but I don't push. Because if you push, you're just going to push them away. They will eventually come to you and ask. They will ask questions eventually about something. What is your Instagram where you post amazing, holistic, hot takes, and what is the name of your podcast and where can people listen?

So my Instagram is natural nurse, mama. and my podcast is Red Pill Your Healthcast. I also have a blog with some information on there, too. I'll be getting more information on there because people want it to be able to refer back to. And my whole goal is to get resources out to parents that they feel empowered and able to take care of their family and themselves. How often do you guys release new podcast episodes? Should be weekly. We're kind of in a season where it's a little bit less, but typically it's going to be weekly.

Well, I want to encourage you to keep doing it weekly and pushing for the weekly because your podcast is one of my favorite, most trusted health and wellness podcasts. Love it. Love everything that you guys are doing. I think it's phenomenal. I recommend your podcast. I recommend Holistic Hilda's Wys Traditions. There's a few go-toes that I'm like, people that are interested in this when I talk about, they're like, I want to know more. Who else talks about this stuff? I always recommend you as one of those top people. So thank you. Thank you so much for everything. I've been wanting to interview you for like over a year. So this has been such a treat for me. Thank you so much, Lauren, for coming on. Thank you for having me on. This is a topic that we could easily do three to four episodes on. So if you guys like this one and you want some more with other experts, let me know in a five-star review we'll try to get some booked.

Next week is a really unique episode that I've been wanting to do for a very long time. I am moderating a discussion between two conservative Christian moms with opposing views on a education. So one is pro-Christian sending their kids to public school, thinks more of us need to be sending kids to public school. The other one believes that Christian parents must homeschool their kids. It is five orange juicy, and you will feel totally persuaded by each of their arguments, like they both brought their A-game. That drops next Thursday at 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific, anywhere you listen to podcasts and the real Alex Clark YouTube channel, I'm Alex Clark, and this is The Spillover. Love you, mean it, bye.