Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark - Vaccines, Flu Shots, Circumcision & Hep B On Grocery Carts? | Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO
Episode Date: December 2, 2025What if the routine choices parents make — the vitamin K shot, Hep B, even circumcision — aren’t as straightforward as we’ve been told? Today I’m joined by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, one of the m...ost controversial voices in medicine, who argues that parents are being trained, not taught, and that major risks and ingredients are routinely kept out of sight. For more than 25 years, she has challenged public-health agencies, been labeled part of the “Disinformation Dozen,” and now claims the entire system is beginning to crack. In this episode, we dive into medical transparency, the pain and impact of newborn procedures, and why more parents are questioning long-standing protocols.If this episode resonated with you, make your voice heard. Contact your congressman and let them know you support H.R. 4388 and H.R. 4668. Your call, email, or message truly makes a difference.Dr. Sherri Tenpenny is now live five days a week at 3pm EST on America Out Loud with The Tenpenny Files, revealing exactly what they never wanted the public to know. Hear it at AmericaOutLoud.news or amol.drtenpenny.comThank you to our sponsors!GEVITI — Use code ALEX for 20% off first purchaseMASA CHIPS — Use code REALALEXCLARK for 25% offA'DEL NATURAL COSMETICS — Use code ALEX for 25% off first-time ordersCOZY EARTH — Use code ALEX for 40% offZEBRA — Use code ALEX for 10% off any orderJASPR — Use code ALEX for $400 offOur Guest:Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DODr. Sherry's Links:Heavy Metal Detox Spray (discount already applied!)Instagram- @busydrtPodcast - The Tenpenny PodcastsPodcast InstagramX - @BusyDrTDrTenpenny.com — WebsiteLearning4You.org — Vaccine education coursesVCourses.DrTenpenny.com — Course portalZero Accountability Book👗 Get Alex’s freshest fashion picks and exclusive guest recommendations—delivered straight to your inbox!Sign up for the newsletter HERE: WEEKLY NEWSLETTER SIGNUPFOLLOW ALEX:Instagram | @realalexclarkInstagram | @cultureapothecaryX | @yoalexrapzYouTube | @RealAlexClarkSpotify | Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark Apple Podcast | Culture Apothecary with Alex ClarkSubscribe to ‘Culture Apothecary’ on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. New episodes drop 6pm PST/ 9pm EST every Monday and Thursday.
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Vaccines have never been proven to be safe.
They don't keep you from getting sick.
None of them are necessary.
There are millions of unvaccinated kids in this country now that aren't sick.
They don't have asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD.
They don't use inhalers.
They don't have chronic daily medications.
Every single vaccine causes a level of harm.
If a parent says, okay, I still want to do some vaccines and they want to follow a slower or a customized vaccine schedule, what should they know about safety and timing?
That if you are making that decision,
You haven't done enough of your homework yet.
A little poison is still poison.
What if the most routine decisions parents make, the vitamin K shot, the hepatitis B vaccine,
even circumcision were never about health at all, but about conditioning an entire population
from birth?
What if measles outbreaks, flu shot seasons, and viral fear campaigns weren't accidents
of nature, but precision-crafted levers in a system designed to keep you obedient, uninformed,
and terrified of asking the wrong questions?
Today, we're stepping into the shadows of the narrative, where Dr. Sherry Tenpenny claims the CDC's
fear playbook is real, where she argues parents are manipulated rather than educated, and where
ingredients, risks, and medical rituals are kept out of sight and out of mind. For over two
decades, Dr. Tenpenny has positioned herself as a whistleblower inside what she calls a pharmaceutical
empire with zero accountability. She spent more than 25 years documenting what she believes big
pharma and public agencies never wanted the public to know, work that led to her
being named in Joe Biden's disinformation doesn't.
Targeted, silenced, and attacked.
Yet, she maintains that every warning she issued has unfolded in real time.
Today, she joins us to discuss the system she says is collapsing.
Her new podcast, The 10 Penny Files on America Out Loud.
Dot News and the detox strategy she promotes for anyone exposed to vaccines,
including a daily heavy metal spray available with an automatic discount at
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Why do some kids get very mild reactions while others have stronger, more serious reactions to the exact same shot?
A lot of it has to do with family history and genetics. It's the one area of medicine and
health care where we don't include in the family history. I mean, like in family history,
you talk about, do you have a history of migraines, history of cancer, history of asthma,
allergies, heart disease, all of those things get taken in a normal history. We never ask
the new mom or the new dad, do you know, anybody in your family have a history of vaccine injury?
Anybody in your family develops seizures or asthma after they've had vaccines. It's not part of the
family history. So we never take in mind.
the genetics of that child from the time that they go in for their first vaccination visit.
The second thing is because we don't know what their genetics are, there's a whole section of
health care that is ignored. It's called inborn errors of metabolism. At least 10% of children
are born with some minor genetic defect that may not manifest until much later in life. But when you've
got this minor genetic defect, you may not be able to detoxify the stuff from the vaccines as well.
We don't test for MTHFR deficiencies on newborns to know whether or not they'll be able to detox, the aluminum, or any of those other things.
So we don't know what the underlying genetics are.
We don't know if children have inborn errors of metabolism.
We don't know if there's a family history of vaccine reactions.
We just have a one-size-fits-all vaccination schedule, a program that correlates with office visits that are set up by the insurance company.
So if a parent goes to a functional medicine doctor or a naturopath or something like that, are they able to find a doctor who can do an MTHFR test on their newborn?
Sure.
Wow.
But if they, they'll generally have to pay cash for it.
Yeah.
And most doctors in integrative medicine are very aware of that.
Another thing that I think is associated with children having more of a higher risk of vaccine reactions is if they have a low iodine level.
Now, the only iodine that children get in their bodies comes from their mothers and during the time that they're pregnant and when they start to nurse because iodine, you know, is attracted to the breast tissue. It's incorporated into the breast tissue the whole time that you've been taking it, but it's really, really important when you're lactating because the iodine in the breast milk goes into the baby, helps to develop the thyroid and also helps to develop IQ. And it also is protective from.
outsourced environmental toxicities.
And we know from the Enhanes study,
which is the National Health Association studies
that have been done, the most recent one was probably 10 years ago,
that most of America is iodine deficient.
Up to 19% of young mothers are iodine deficient
and they don't even know it.
We've done a lot of things to take iodine out of the diet.
You tell people don't eat eggs,
and we have to, you know, don't eat salt.
And, you know, one of the main ways that we got iodine was through iodine.
salt. So we tell people to not eat salt or we cook with salt. The iodine is a gas and as soon as it
gets heated, it floats away. And so we have a lot of reasons to be iodine deficient in this
country. We have iodine deficiency all over the world. In fact, the international iodine
deficiency diseases organization is bigger than the World Health Organization and nobody even knows
about it. So then would it be a good idea or a bad idea for a pregnant mother to be like,
I need to be supplementing iodine? Absolutely. You think it can just be
beneficial. She doesn't need to do a test first or anything? There really is no blood test for iodine levels.
There is an experimental test that's done with urine tests that is difficult to do and isn't very
accurate. I think that most women can assume that they need some extra iodine, but you don't want to
overdo it. Iodine is not a vitamin that's like vitamin D or like calcium or magnesium that you
can take a lot of it and when your body doesn't need it. It just gets rid of it. Iodon.
needs to be done judiciously.
And if you have a thyroid problem,
an underlying hypothyroidism
or Hashimoto's disease,
you should be taking iodine
under the guidance of a holistic practitioner
that understands that iodine is very powerful.
But if you're taking low doses of it,
low doses of nascent iodine,
or low doses of potassium iodide,
it's just good for you overall.
Or to just look up on the internet,
all the foods that have high iodine levels and I'm going to increase more of those foods into your diet.
You say that the CDC has a fear playbook for vaccines. How is the CDC manipulating parents and what
should families really know? What families really should know is that they need to do their
investigation about vaccines before they have a baby. You know, I've said for a long time that
when you get pregnant, God gives you two gifts. The first gift is,
your ability to get pregnant. And with the fertility rates all over the world dropping, it's going to be
more important in the future to even be so grateful when you get pregnant. That's your first gift.
The second gift is God gives you anywhere from six to seven months to get prepared for this new life
that's coming into your world that you're going to be responsible for forever. And so you need to do a lot
of investigation about nursing versus formulas versus bottles versus the types of nipples that you
use on bottles if you're going to bottle feed. What sort of supplements can you give to babies right
away? You can give them vitamin D as soon as they're born. And you need to do your study and your
investigation about vaccines. When you are in labor is not the time that you should be deciding
whether or not your baby is going to get a hepatitis B shot, an RSV shot, and a vitamin K shot.
That is, there's a whole lot of things going on when you're in labor and making a life
impacting decision about this newborn in your life, that is not the time to do it. You've had
seven, eight months to do it ahead of time. And it's so much more important to make decisions
and get education about that than about deciding what the color of the nursery is going to be.
Because that's just fun. I mean, that's just a fun part of suddenly becoming a mom is how you get
to decorate things and color things, but it has nothing to do with taking care of the baby.
And understanding what's coming through that needle, that could be a life all.
altering event. You need to get educated about that before the baby's born. In what ways specifically
do you believe parents are being misled in the pediatricians office when they try to ask questions?
Pediatricians have all been taught. Vaccines are safe, effective, necessary, and are harmless.
And each one of those statements is false. Vaccines have never been proven to be safe. They don't
keep you from getting sick. You can have the vaccine and high antibody levels and still contract the
illness. None of them are necessary. There are millions of unvaccinated kids in this country now
that aren't sick. They don't have asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD, they don't use inhalers.
They don't have chronic daily medications. And every single vaccine causes a level of harm.
Even if it's just at a cellular level, changing the epigenetics of that child, changing little
things, shaving off a few points of their IQ that you may not know about or be able to recognize
until later. Vaccines do all of those things. What is the evidence to support that, that it's shaving
off IQ? Because you know that every vaccine has an ability to cause encephalitis or to cause
brain swelling or cause brain edema and all of those things lead to lower IQ. And when you have
all of those toxicities in your body, that your body has to
take care of, you know that your body is a little bit less healthy.
You say that no vaccine has been proven safe.
None.
What do you mean?
There has never been on any one of the vaccines that are currently given a truly
placebo-controlled trial were in one set of children.
They were given the new vaccine.
And in the other set of children, it was a true saline placebo.
And so unless you're comparing a vaccine against saline, how can you say it's
safe. All of the vaccine trials are a vaccine compared to another vaccine. And so all you're doing is
saying one particular vaccine may have a lower side effect profile, but most of the time they are,
it's one vaccine compared against another. And I'll give you an example. The Rotorix vaccine,
which they give is an oral vaccine that they give to children to try to prevent them from getting
diarrhea. We don't really need it in this country at all. It can be beneficial in some children in
third world countries that don't have clean water and potable water. But the rotorix vaccine trial,
the vaccine trial was using the roterick's vaccine. In the control arm, which was supposed to be a
placebo, they used the same vaccine, the roterick's vaccine, minus the virus. So it was all the chemicals,
all the everything that was in there, minus the virus. And at the end of the study, they said the
side effects profile were the same. Well, of course they were the same. It was the same vaccine.
And that's just one example of many, many things across the board.
How long were the majority of the safety trials done on the vaccines on the childhood schedule?
The average length of time is probably somewhere between 15 and 30 days.
It's been as short as four days when they brought the first hepatitis B vaccine to market.
They followed safety to see if there were any side effects for five days.
The second hepatitis B vaccine that came to market, they followed side effects for four days.
Is four to 30 days, you think, from a medical perspective, a long enough time to really look at safety?
Absolutely not. It can take months to years to develop autoimmune diseases, neurological complications, other types of things like GI disorders, encephalysis can start right away, but it can be slow brewing for a long period of time. No, that is not a safety trial.
Are kids who are fully vaccinated really safer from disease?
No.
Because you can get the injection, have a very high antibody tighter, which is the whole point
of the exercise.
I mean, the whole reason that the vaccine industry exists is to create what they call
protective antibodies, which aren't protective at all.
In fact, even the ASIP committees, when they start to talking about, after you get
the injection, you get a high antibody level, do you still get sick?
Well, we don't want to talk about that because the truth is, yes, you can.
In fact, several of the big outbreaks that we've known that have happened, say, in the last 10 or 15 years with pertussis and mumps and measles were people that had had two or more of those vaccines.
They were like fully vaccinated military ships that had like a mumps outbreak, you know, and they had, and we know that pertussis has a life cycle.
It's a bacterial infection.
Has a life cycle of about every two to five years, you're going to see an uptick of that infection rate, irrespective of vaccination.
rate. So every time we get this bacteria that it's life cycle every two to five years,
there's more of it and we see a small outbreak of pertussis. Even if you've been fully vaccinated,
even if you have a high antibody level, you're still going to see these outbreaks and you
may be the one that contracts that infection. Because antibody levels, you can have a high antibody
level and still get the infection. That's even true in tetanus. The CDC's most recent, which
was a while back, a survey that they did about tetanus injections that people could have four or more
tetanus shots and have high antibody levels and still contract infection. So what is the moral of that
story? If you've got a cut or you've got a puncture, you need to clean it out. You need to pour a lot
of hydrogen peroxide on it. You need to clean it out with lots of warm soapy water. If it's a cut that's
bleeding, let it bleed, let the blood come into the cut because the blood pushes out the dirt from
underneath and it also brings in white blood cells and different types of cells that are going
to blockade that infection and to clean it out really, really well. Now, standard of care would say
that if you have a deep puncture wound, that if you, and it's a way that you cannot clean it out,
like in the bottom of your foot, you need to get a tetanus shot because it's standard of care.
The problem is that doesn't necessarily keep you from getting tetanus. There are homeopathics
called lead them and things like that that can help from the inside. Make sure your vitamin
D level is really super high. We already talked a little bit about iodine because iodine is your
body's natural antiseptic that helps to fight off infections. My first life, I was a board-certified
emergency medicine and I was the director of a level two trauma center for 12 years. And one of
the things when people would, you know, hop over a fence and get a deep puncture wound in the
bottom of their foot from a rake or from a nail or from anything that may be in there.
It was really, really important when you were in the ER to open up that wound, to take off
the shoe, take off the sock, numb up the area, and then dig into that area and pull out
the piece of shoe or the piece of sock or something that got stuck up into that wound.
Because many times when you get an infection after you've had a puncture wound, it's not
tetanus.
it may be staff or something else like that because you forgot to move, remove the foreign body that got
pushed up in there when you jumped on that nail or on that rake. So anybody that's listening to this,
it's really important that if you end up with a deep puncture wound and you end up going to the
emergency room because of that, don't just go there to get a tetanus shot. Go there and say,
I want you to numb that up and make sure that there's no foreign body in there and pull that out
so you don't end up with a secondary infection. Write that down. Right that down. Right.
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When it comes to you or your own family and there's an emergency situation, I mean, is there any
vaccine on the market that you're like, okay, in this scenario, I would recommend this vaccine or no,
never. The only one would be a rabies vaccine. Okay. That's the only one. And that's because
if you contract rabies, that is uniformly fatal. If you contract tetanus, we've been told it's
uniformly fatal and it's not. Okay. In fact,
when I started into this whole investigative journey that I've been on 25 years ago, when I first
investigated the tetanus vaccine, I was reading all these case reports of so-and-so had this
happened. They developed tetanus. They were in the hospital for seven to ten days, and they
fully recovered. I read story after story and case study. It was like, wait a minute. Even in medical
school and physicians are taught that if you can get tetanus, you're going to die. That's why you have
to have a tetanus shot, even if you've had one within the last 10 years, you know, better
be safe than sorry, you know, that whole sort of thing. But that's not true. It's a nasty
infection. You want to do everything you can to avoid it. If you contract it, the likelihood of
dying is very, very small. In fact, there was a case report of 50 people who had developed
tetanus. 47 of them went back to work after they recovered from the tetanus. Three of them
were the only residual that they had with, they had a lot of anxiety.
over having had the infection, but they were alive. They didn't die. Now, with rabies, that's different.
Rabies, if you contract a rabies infection, it is generally fatal. But you have to do,
decide whether or not you're going to go through that rabies vaccine series, which I believe is a
five to seven injection series. That's really toxic vaccine and very expensive. And it has a lot
of side effects and complications.
So I think, you know, the knee-jerk reflex of ER docs are as if you got bit by a dog
or a cat, even a little scratch, you need a tetanusat and rabies vaccine, which just really
isn't true.
You need to use common sense.
I'll give you, for instance, recently a friend of mine, they had been taking care of
a feral cat, and they'd had it for a while, but they'd never picked it up.
It was not sick, was very friendly, beautiful little cat, little kitty.
And the first time that they went to pick it up, it got scared and bit them on the finger, bit the person on the finger.
And there was nothing wrong with that cat.
It wasn't that the cat was rabid that bit him.
This cat got scared and was put in a situation where it was really afraid.
So did he need to get a rabies shot from that?
No.
And if you can observe the animal, if it's a pet or you can observe the animal, they observe them anywhere from two to three weeks.
and if there's no signs of rabies, then, you know, it's not a big deal.
The only way to test for rabies is to kill the animal and examine its brain.
So if it's not sick and, you know, it was just bit you because it was scared,
that's a different scenario that if you're bit by a wild animal that looks sick,
that's toxic, that's not walking right, that's off balance,
that is very aggressive and chases you.
And you can't capture that animal to test it,
then absolutely I think that the rabies vaccine would be in or,
because irrespective of how bad the side effects may be from that vaccine, it is the only
option to keep you from dying.
What is the biggest misconception that we are told about the polio vaccine?
The polio vaccine came to market in 1954 that really wasn't thoroughly tested, didn't
have a placebo-controlled trial.
Some places that you read even talk about them using tetanus shots as placebo's.
There is a whole series of things that talk about polio was caused by DDT and not by a virus.
Polio is a gastrointestinal virus.
And even on the CDC's website in the section that talks about polio,
97% of people that came in contact with a polio virus back in the day in the 50s when there was a raging amount of polio viruses around,
97% of people had what looked like the stomach flu.
they had a little bit of diarrhea passed right through and they had a lifetime of immunity.
Less than 2% of 2% so it's 0.04% of people that contracted a polio infection ended up with long-term paralysis.
And even to this day, I mean, there has been no polio in the Western Hemisphere since 1991.
Right, but they're saying that's because of the vaccine.
Yeah, but when do you decide it's eliminated and you don't need it anymore?
when do you decide there is no virus in the Western Hemisphere?
You know, Canada, North America, Central America, South America since 1991 and has been certified
as polio-free by the World Health Organization since 1994.
So for 30 years, we've had no polio viruses in the environment.
I mean, there are places in the world on the Western Hemisphere that I'm sure that kids don't
have polio vaccines.
virus was out there around, somebody would have gotten polio. They haven't. In your opinion,
did we get to this point because of the vaccine or because something else? Because of hygiene.
Because this is a gastrointestinal virus. We stopped using the oral polio vaccine here in the
United States in about 2001 because it was the only thing causing paralysis. It was the only
thing causing the condition we cause polio, was the oral polio vaccine that they still use
in other parts of the world. But once you get hygiene and
and you get water treatment plants and you can treat the sewage and things like that.
It's not around.
And even when you get exposed to the virus, historically, more than 97% of kids just look
like they had a diarrhea.
You know, this was about, I don't know when it was, it was somewhere within the last year.
All this terrible stuff was going on in Gaza.
And they said that they found a polio virus in the sewage.
One, probably because it came from the oral polio vaccine, which is what the problem
is all around the world is that they still use the oral polio vaccine. And the World Health
Organization pounced on that as an opportunity to go in and vaccinate with the oral polio
vaccine with several million children in Gaza. I was so upset by that because it's like those
children don't need an oral polio vaccine. They need safety. They need potable water. They need
food. They need protection. They need warmth. They need electricity more than they need an oral polio
vaccine. The whole issue about polio, I mean, there are many books on polio vaccines and how they
came to market. One of my favorite books is called The Virus and the Vaccine by Debbie Bookchin and
her co-author. And it was written, it's a really, really good book. It's written like a
suspense thriller. And the first half of the book talks about
the development of the polio vaccine and how when it was released in 1954, I believe,
that there was a physician in Michigan who didn't believe that they had been tested adequately or they were safe.
So he took those vials of vaccines and set them into a refrigerator and never gave them to anybody.
Years later, Dr. Michael Carbone, who was a PhD and a researcher, had been looking at the fact that the polio vaccines were contaminated with simium virus 40 that came from,
from the monkey kidney cells that they used to make the polio vaccine.
And that the simium virus 40 came from the monkeys.
They were just normal contaminants inside of monkeys, but inside of humans.
They contributed to growing, slow-growing tumors, slow-going cancers, osteosarcomas,
glialblastomas, and a whole list of cancers.
So he got, with this researcher in Michigan, got the original polio vaccines that they made
and said, yes, they were contaminated with this SV40, with this virus that can cause cancer.
It's a cancer-causing virus.
And so the second half of the book is all about him and how he tried to get the FDA to look at this
and stop using monkey kidney cells to develop the polio vaccine because of the contaminants
and all this stuff and how his lab was shut down and all of his money was taken away as credentials
were ruined, just like every other researcher that has stood up against the government and against
the pharmaceutical industry, their careers usually are pretty well toast.
What does vitamin K actually do for babies and is it necessary?
What vitamin K does is it causes baby's blood to thicken and clot.
The theory is that when a baby's born, you've got something this big, going through a hole
this big, that you can cause rips and tears in the, the dura matter of the brain.
and if you don't give them something to clot their blood,
they will end up with these brain bleeds.
The studies that showed that came out of like the 1950s,
and it was a very small set of children that had this problem.
The downside is that it's a synthetic vitamin K.
The second thing is that when babies are born,
again, it's something this big, going through a hole this big,
there are microscopic tears that happen all over their body.
It's just natural.
It's just part of the birthing process that even happens in babies that have C-sections.
What the body does with that little baby's body does is mobilizes stem cells and white blood cells
to immediately go into those places that have been damaged to heal them and to bring in the nutrients
and the things that they need to be able to put them back together again.
When you toss in the vitamin K shot at birth, you slow that process and in some cases probably
stop it. The oral vitamin
K drops work equally as well.
The other thing that when we started giving vitamin
K at birth
is particularly for little boys
because of circumcision.
Yeah, I was going to ask that. So is it necessary
for circumcision or you would do something else
for circumcision? Well, circumcision is
a Jewish custom
and so you have to decide whether
or not you want to do that as a Jewish custom.
Do you think
that we are looking
pretty soon at a future
in America where the majority of babies are not circumcised.
I do.
I do too.
Because I think parents are looking into why do we do this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
Well, the main thing is that, you know, in the Jewish custom of why I started to say that,
is that rabbis would do the circumcision somewhere on day seven or day eight of birth.
And that allows the baby's own liver to kick in and start making its own intrinsic vitamin K.
so when they make that incision to cut off the foreskin, it doesn't excessively bleed.
When baby boys are born in the hospital these days and parents choose to do circumcision,
they do it before they send them home.
So it's done on day two or day three of birth.
And that's the other reason why the vitamin K shot is given at birth because of impending circumcision.
So if you're not going to circumcise and you really feel like you want to protect you.
try to, you kind of believe the theory that I want to protect the baby. The oral vitamin
K drops work equally as well. Is it true that babies who are being circumcised on day two or
day three after birth don't feel pain? No. No. And it's, if anybody has ever seen a circumcision,
it's barbaric. I only saw one during my medical training on my, one of my pediatric rotations.
And I never wanted to see another one. It was just barbaric, what they do.
to these babies. I'll tell you from my end of one, my experience, they had this little boy
who was literally papoosed and tied down on this little board and just had his penis out
where the doctor could whack off his foreskin. And that baby screamed and cried and peed
and pooped and tried to vomit and did everything it could to get away from what was happening
to his private parts. It was barbaric. And just, and they say, well, it's okay. It's really quick.
It will be done and then we'll just give it back to mom and they'll just be fine.
And the follow-up studies about children that, you know, that, you know, they shake and they cry and they don't feed well for the next 48 hours or so.
I have a friend who's a hypnotherapist, he's also a counselor and part of his counseling with young men that come in with anxiety and depression and anger issues.
when he does hypnotherapy with them and takes them, you know, regresses them back through their life,
many times it goes back to when they were circumcised.
Whoa.
That they felt abandoned by their mother.
They felt brutalized by whatever was happening to them that they couldn't understand and this excruciating pain.
I mean, it's no different, in my opinion, that if every little male boy was born,
that we just chose to cut off the fifth toe on his right foot.
Totally.
With no anesthesia.
No lidecane, no nothing.
I agree with you.
This is a very controversial opinion that I hold with my audience.
I mean, I think they're pretty half and half on this subject.
I am very against it.
I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on the people that say, well, we need to do that
because it is a disaster when boys can't keep it clean.
And there's been so many people that are in the emergency room because they get infections as adults and things like that.
And then they're having to circumcise later in life.
Most of the time that they're circumcised later in life, it's a choice. It's not really because of, you know, they can't keep it clean. It's sort of like, what do you mean? From the time your little boy is learning to go to the bathroom and from the time that you're changing his diaper, you have to retract that foreskin and make sure that the opening stays stretched out enough to retract over the head and the shaft of the penis. It's part of taking care of your little boy. It's just like as he gets older, brushing his teeth and cleaning out his ear.
What I don't understand, doctor, is that when people say that, it's an exclusively an American excuse.
Because you've got all of these other countries in the world that are not circumcising and they have no issues.
Exactly.
It's only in America.
So I'm like, it's a cultural thing.
We just need more education.
Teach parents how to take care of it.
Teach their kid how to take care of it.
And then I feel like we're going to be fine.
But, you know, the people that are struggling with that, I'm like, I just think that's because it's an American culture thing.
It's another one of those things as a mother when you get pregnant, it's on that list of like a hundred and some things that you need to investigate and just make decisions about and understand about.
You know, when they talk about parents that don't vaccinate as being irresponsible, I honestly really believe that parents that choose to not vaccinate are more responsible because they have to be more vigilant about Whole Foods, it's keeping them.
away from white sugar, white flour, you know, white rice and white homogenized cows milk that we've
always called the four great whites, teaching them, you know, instead of giving them sugar for
snacks, giving them slices of apple or oranges or things like that, something sweet, but something
that's good for them, being vigilant about washing your hands, taking vitamin D as you get older.
When you choose to not vaccinate, that's not where the care stops. You know, yes, you're choosing to
not poison your child and inject them with all of this foreign matter and perhaps make them
chronically sick for life with things like asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD, ADHD,
insulin-dependent diabetes, a long list of autoimmune diseases, a long list of neurological
complications.
You're avoiding that because think about completely unvaccinated children.
How often do they go to the doctor?
Maybe once a year for a school physical for sports, they're not constantly in the doctor
for ear infections and for eczema and for getting their inhaler for asthma.
They're just not.
They're healthy.
But that's partly because of the responsibility that parents need to take to keep them healthy as they get older.
And children will get a fever.
I mean, for heaven's sakes, it's just part of the normal immune system acting appropriately.
I wrote a little e-book.
It's available on our website.
It's called The Importance of Fever.
It's so important for parents to understand.
When I was doing the research for that, there would have been two studies that have been done that showed that parents were scared to death of fever, that they think that if their child gets a fever, it's going to go to 102, 100, 4007, 112, and they're going to combust right before their eyes.
And it really, I really talk about the fact that pediatricians feed that and let us know if he gets a fever, you know, and they put this terror in young parents' lives, where if you understand the importance of fever, what's happening with your immune system.
and why it's really important.
What do to support the fever?
When is the fever at the point that you do need to get medical care?
Yeah.
Tell us.
Well, when they stop drinking, when they become lethargic, it's not about how high the fever is.
It's about how long it goes on.
If it's going on for three or four days, there's probably something like an ear infection
or some other infection going on.
If they're not drinking, they seem lethargic.
It's been going on for a long time.
It's not that it's 103 because I've heard parents say to me,
Oh, it went to 105.
Okay.
The immune system was really hyperreacting and trying to get rid of something that was there.
It's not about how high it is.
It's about how long it's gone on.
And whether or not your child's drinking water, if it's a baby, you can take ice cubes
and put them in a cloth and take a hammer and smash them up and then take those little
bits of ice cube and put them in their mouth.
It's just that every little bit of that really helps.
It also, because it's ice, it helps.
it helps to bring down the fever for comfort a little bit more.
And as long as they're still making wet diapers,
you know,
you've seen kids that have 100,
2003 fever, and they're running around the room playing with their toys.
Yeah.
They're not acting like they're sick at all.
So fever is a, is something that's happening in your immune system.
And when you understand it a little better,
there's no reason to be afraid of it.
And you need to have someone in your life that you can take your child to not a pediatrician,
someone in your life that you trust that can say,
my baby's got a fever, should I be concerned?
And that person could be your mother,
your grandmother, an aunt, your sister,
your neighbor, somebody in your yoga class,
somebody at your church,
somebody that has raised children.
You know, and maybe you're the seventh out of,
you know, a whole bunch of kids.
Your mom raised a whole family,
and she would just look at the baby and go,
not anything to be concerned about.
See, that's what I like about you.
Like, you would be my dream doctor to have,
like, once I have kids,
that I could call up freaking out and then you'd be like, no, can you chill out, please?
Like, honestly, we need more people like that.
But you're right, yeah, the pediatrician doesn't want to be that person to just be so like,
like just brutally honest.
But yeah, if you have someone else in your life.
Someone else in your life that, you know, has, this is your first time.
You're doing this.
You've got this new little life that you have to be responsible for.
Yeah.
And they're going to be doing a whole bunch of things that are first.
Yeah.
Actually, it's a short story.
It's a friend of mine who was the seventh child in his family.
And when he got to be a teenager,
he went to his parents and said, ask them, was I adopted?
And they were like, no, why do you say that?
He said, well, all my other brothers and sisters, there's all these pictures of them.
And you don't see very many pictures of me as a baby.
And I just wondered if I was adopted.
Well, he was the seventh.
They've already seen kids roll over stand up, take their first, say their first words to do all these first things.
It wasn't novel anymore.
When you've got this first baby, this first baby, it's everything that baby does is novel.
you've not seen it before.
So you need to share that, have a shared experience with somebody who's seen it before.
And they've been through it.
And they can tell you, I'm concerned about that or I'm not concerned about it, or I just give them this.
So you could wait a little longer.
And that could be any women, even men in your life that you know, that have raised families and been around children.
But I really am a big advocate for going to your mother or your grandmother because we've lost this multi-generational raising
of families. But you can go to your sister, like I said, somebody in your yoga class, a nurse at your
church. I mean, somebody like that. But the pediatrician has no patience and tolerance for it,
particularly if you choose not to vaccinate, they'll be scolding you. And all they want to do is
write you a prescription for something that you may not even need. There's a new thing going around
where parents go to the pediatrician, they're questioning hep B if they really need it for their baby.
And the pediatrician is going, you have to get the hep B. Your baby will die. They can contract
severe disease or illness from the shopping cart in the grocery.
That just makes me laugh.
I mean, what is the truth?
Well, it ain't that.
Can babies contract be from a grocery cart?
No.
It comes from shared needles, from shared toothbrushes, from anal sex particularly.
No, they're not going to be able to do that.
And because their baby has an intact immune system, you know, we're being surrounded by
pathogens every minute, every second. You and I just sitting, you're having this conversation,
there's viruses and bacteria and things on the table and things that we're touching. We're not
dropping over dead. And they don't have a vaccine for most of the things that we come in contact
with because our immune system has two parts. This is another part that really drives me crazy.
As pediatricians will try to convince the parents, you need to vaccinate because your baby was
born without an immune system, which is a lie. Your immune system has two
parts. One is called the innate immune system, which is the immune system that you're born with
that has proteins on the surface of every cell in your body called toll-like receptors, T-O-L-L-L-L-I-K-E,
toll-like receptors. And I think of them as like navigation or sonar devices that are
scanning your blood 24-7, 365 every day that you're alive. And they're neutralizing things that
don't belong there. Because we get bacteria in our blood every day.
from things that we eat, from brushing our teeth, from having a bowel movement, from having sex,
we always get bacteria that ends up in our blood. And these toll-like receptors neutralize it,
and we don't even know that's going on. So you've got this incredible vigilant system
called the innate immune system that your baby's born with. And it's keeping it healthy
this whole time until it develops what's called the adaptive immune system. The adaptive immune system
is where you get exposed to something and you develop an antibody, an intrinsic antibody,
not an induced antibody from a vaccine, an intrinsic thing, so that your body starts to learn the
difference between self and non-self. And so when your dog, where your baby gets exposed to the dog,
the cat, the guinea pig, the stuff on the carpet, you have a, you have, take them to the barn,
you're around the horses, around hay and grass and all these different things. Their immune system
figures it out that that's not going to harm me. I, you know, I recognize that. I don't have
to do anything with it. Do you think maybe modern mothers are a little bit too protective of babies
when they're first born that we need to be taking them out in nature a little bit, kind of other
environments, not just like keeping them in the safe little chloroxed bubble all the time? Like,
are we making a mistake? Yes. Think about 100 years ago. I mean, when Native American women
used to have children by sitting down by a tree and squatting and the baby came out and then the placenta
came out and then they gave them a bath and they wiped them up.
the vast majority of them lived and did just well.
They weren't in a little Clorox, you know, for heaven forbid, the sannie wipe sort of things.
Oh my gosh, that stuff is so toxic.
I do believe probably somewhere in the first 30 days of life, it's best to try to just keep them at home,
keep them in their normal environment, but don't be hypervigilant.
And this new thing that's started to come out where parents are saying,
you grandparents can't be around my baby until you get vaccinated with a pertussis
vaccine.
Yeah.
And the big promotion that they did a few years ago about the big bad wolf, remember those
commercials about, you know, the grandparents, if they're not vaccinated against pertussis,
they will come and infect your child.
Well, this started in about 2012.
It was a concept they called cocooning.
And it was something that they totally made up that if they vaccinated everybody around
that newborn baby with the pertussis vaccine, it would protect that baby.
it would put a cocoon around that baby and keep them from getting the pertussis vaccine.
Well, the truth of the matter is, the pertussis vaccine that they use now is called the accellular pertussis vaccine.
And they actually did a study about 2016 that showed that if you got the pertussis, the accellular pertussis vaccine,
if I was the grandma and I got injected with that, I would start colonizing pertussis that's out in the environment because it's always there.
We're always exposed to it.
And I would be more likely to blow pertussis on that newborn baby as I held it in my eyes, in my arms.
What? What a backfiring.
Exactly. And more likely to induce pertussis in that baby under three months of age, which is the most serious time in your entire life for pertussis.
Because pertussis is a, it's a cough infection. It's worse at night, not associated with a fever, usually not any mucus or anything like that coming up.
The pertussis has little thimbri on the outside of it, little hairs, that as you breathe in that
bacteria, it adheres to the inside of your trachea and is an irritant and just causes a cough.
And because their trachea is so small, it's smaller around than the diameter of my little finger,
they get exhausted.
They don't have the oomph to cough it out.
And they have this really harsh cough.
So babies are at greater risk because of exhaustion and dehydration, not because,
the infection itself. And so you don't want your three-month-old or younger to get pertussis.
But as the babies get older and their trachea gets bigger, pertussis is a cough infection,
which can be treated with vitamin C. And actually, Dr. Suzanne Humphreys has a great paper.
If you go to her website, which is Dr.souzanne.net, and there's a whole paper there.
It's pretty long that talks about pertusses. And what you can.
can do with vitamin C as scorbates as a liquid and treat even babies three months of age and younger.
So there's no big reason to vaccinate with pertussis. And there's no big reason to cocoon and to bring up
that maybe make them get more exposure to pertussis. And remember, pertussis has a life, has a cycle
of every two to five years you're going to see an upkick and the amount of kids and adults
that have pertussis, irrespective of vaccination rates. Also, correct me if I'm wrong. You
You're the doctor. I'm not. But if you are telling the grandmas and the grandpas in your
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making them susceptible to a host of all kinds of other diseases. A hundred percent correct.
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How do vaccine ingredients interact with each other when multiple shots are given at the same time?
Nobody knows.
The only reason that pediatricians or the entire industry wants to vaccinate is to create an antibody.
So when they started doing this thing, PidiRix was the first one, and I believe it was around 2001, maybe, I don't have the date right.
The Piedorix was the first vaccine, the combination vaccine that came out.
So it was like DPD, hepatitis B.
in polio, I think, or the five of those together.
I'm pretty sure that that's correct.
Well, when they tested P.D.Ricks to see whether or not it worked, meaning did it create an
antibody, the control groups were individual vaccines given in the different extremity.
And when they were given individually, did they get antibodies as the same as if you gave
all of them together in one shot?
And when the antibody levels were the same, they said, oh, safe and effective, we can
give all these vaccines together in one shot instead of giving five different shots. Now, the problem with
that is it became very deceptive for parents because parents back in 2014-15 in that era were becoming
very suspicious about all these vaccines. They were like, do I need to get all these? And do I need
to get them all at the same time? And am I going to be exposed to all these infection pathogens at the same
time? Can I spread them out and give one at a time? They weren't anti-vaxers. They weren't like saying,
know, but they were looking at what was being injected into their little baby's little body all
at the same time. The vaccine industry said, well, we'll just combine them into one combination
shot. So when the nurse walks in, say, we're just getting one shot today when actually they
were getting five. But they were getting one shot, but it had all these different combinations
in. And the actual combinations of what is in that shot, of how it causes inflammation and what
other toxicities it causes, nobody really knows because nobody's really studied that.
When I tell people that there's 72, 75 vaccines now on the childhood vaccine schedule, they're like,
you're lying, you're full of it. I've been there every single time my child has been injected.
They have not been injecting my kids 70 plus times. And I'm like, there's multiple vaccines in one of
those syringes, right? But they don't even understand that that's what's going on.
Well, the other thing is that rotavirus and now the new R and one of the new RASV vaccines are oral drops.
So even though you're getting doses of vaccines, you're not, when you get a rotavirus vaccine, you're getting an oral drop.
You're not getting an injection.
So that's another thing where parents don't make those counts.
And you're absolutely right.
Those combination vaccines, they now have, some of the combination vaccines have up to seven different vaccines.
in them, you know, so instead, but you get one shot.
And unless you actually say, can I see the package insert?
Can you tell me what vaccine antigens are in that shot that my baby's getting today?
You're not going to know.
There's aluminum.
There's fetal cells.
There's hamster ovaries.
Is that what you said?
Chinese hamster ovaries.
That's in baby vaccines.
What happens when all of that stuff is going into a baby's body?
Like, why would, why should those ingredients concern parents?
They are foreign proteins.
and every time a foreign protein gets injected into the body,
it can create an antibody, and it can cause an inflammatory response.
The problem is nobody's ever tested that.
And I've looked for this for years.
You know, I've been doing this for 25 years in that why is it that we don't check for
antibodies against the aluminum,
against all of the different foreign protein cells like the boarded fetal cells,
the Chinese hamster ovaries, the dog kidney cells,
the cells from monkey cells, the monkey kidney cells.
One of the flu shots called flu block is made from bugs.
And we don't test for the proteins for that.
We don't test for antibodies to any of the chemicals that are injected into the body.
And in fact, there's a lawsuit that has recently been filed against the CDC for never testing the safety of the entire vaccine schedule against placebo.
And they're not following the entire life of these children.
that get all of these shots their entire life.
There's actually a lawsuit saying,
you've never tested the safety of this entire schedule.
Who did that lawsuit?
Stanford Health Freedom is one of the people behind it.
Dr. Paul Thomas, and then there's a couple of other people
that are related, that are involved in that.
If a parent says, okay, I still want to do some vaccines
and they want to follow a slower or a customized vaccine schedule,
what should they know about safety and timing?
I would say that if you are making that decision,
you haven't done enough of your homework yet.
And one of the books that I'm really strongly recommending to all parents that they read,
it's a pretty thick book, but particularly parents that are egg-hedy,
meaning they want to see the research, they want to see the proof, they want to see the
references, they want to read the references for themselves.
I would say the book, Turtles All the Way Down by Children Health Defense, is a must-read
for any parent, but particularly those category of parents that are like,
like, I want the proof because it was written by two or three Israeli pediatricians that wanted
to remain somewhat anonymous. And so that's why Mary Holland and Zoe O'Toole are the editors,
because they edited it and then Children's Health Defense published it. But that book has
more than a thousand references of things that you can look at. And it goes through each one
of the childhood illnesses, what the illness is, why you shouldn't be concerned about it,
what you can do about it.
And then about each one of the vaccines, what's in it?
And when parents say I still want to do a little bit of vaccinating, it's like a little
poison is still poison.
And any one of the vaccines can be the one, even if you only gotten one.
Like, for example, years ago, I did a court case with the federal court claims with
vaccine court of a 40-something year old college professor that got convinced by his doctor.
to get a hepatitis A vaccine because he was going to Punta Kana.
Why there?
I don't know.
And he never had any other vaccines.
So he got the hepatitis A vaccine and became chronically disabled, couldn't work,
and was on chronic disability from that.
And I tell that story in brief to a lot of people because it can be any one of them.
That's a very delayed schedule.
He's 40 years old getting this Hepha vaccine and still got vaccine injured.
Right. For parents that are making this decision, what vaccines, any vaccines, no vaccines, whatever your choices that you're making, there is a risk. And you as the parent, you have to decide what is worth the risk to me? Would I rather take the risk of my child getting the polio vaccine but then, you know, could get this vaccine injury? Would I rather take the risk of not getting the polio vaccine? Okay, what could happen if I don't give my child the vaccine? And then listing out those pros and cons. And then that, the whole thing is, is giving parents informed consent and the ability to,
to make that choice. Don't let the doctors fearmonger you and make that choice for you.
You make it for your own child. I mean, you would agree with that, right? Yeah, and I would add two things to that.
Even if a parent does just a moniker of research, if they go through some of our vaccine courses that we have available,
one of our most popular courses is how to read a package insert, because if you're not from a medical
background, when you try to read a package insert, it can be kind of overwhelming. So even if you're not willing to do a few
of those courses, read even a little bit of the book, Turtles All the Way Down. Even if you do just
that little bit, I can almost assure you that you're going to know more about vaccines than your
pediatrician was ever taught in medical school. The second thing is that you're right. Everything that you do
once you become a parent involves risk. I mean, everything. Your kid kicking the ball out in the
front yard that could go across the street and they could get hit by a car. So it's like risk ratio.
and there are some things that you can protect against,
and some things it's just life.
And so you've got to have faith.
You've got to pray prayers over your kids every single day
and have God bless them and protect them.
And that includes their health.
And I think that really making those decisions
about injecting foreign matter,
and then if I don't,
and taking a look, if you have any friends in your family
or in your world that their kids are unvaccinated,
go talk to those parents.
Go talk to those parents and ask them,
how did you make this decision?
How did you come to this point?
Is your child been sick
since they're not getting any vaccines?
Do they take chronic daily medications?
Do they have an inhaler?
And hear what they have to say.
Sometimes we forget to make these decisions
in conjunction with other friends,
with other friends and family.
You know what I think is juicy
and also a really good family
to ask this question to,
are families of lots of kids where they were vaccinating the older ones and then they stopped
vaccinating the younger and then asking them about the health outcomes of the vaccinated in their
own family versus the unvaccinated in their family because I have friends like that where
they had their minds totally changed on vaccines in the middle of having kids. So some kids are
vaccinated and some are. And the kids that are not vaccinated are always healthier. They don't
have eczema. They don't have issues. You know, versus the older kids usually do have all those
problems, which I think is interesting. You know, another book that people might want to look at is a
book called Vax unvax, V-A-X-Dash-U-V-A-X-U-V-A-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-E. That's the name of the book. Vax-U-V-V-A-V-S,
by Dr. Brian Hooker. It's a phenomenal book. Brian's a good friend of mine, and he is, he works
for Children's Health Defense. And they published this, I believe, around 2017, maybe. And he said,
and that was when Secretary Kennedy was just part of Children's Health Defense. And he said,
Bobby called him one day and said, Brian, do you think there's any studies that we can look at out there that really compare the health of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children? He said, I don't know. I'll take a look. And then Brian said, well, this will take me Saturday afternoon because there aren't any. Well, as it turned out, there's at least 60. They stopped at 60 that really compared the health of completely vaccinated children to completely unvaccinated children. And they crunched all the data and put it in this book. And there's chart after chart after chart after chart of comparing the health.
of vaccinated children to the health of unvaccinated children. And the unvaccinated children's
health is always better than the vaccinated by 1.5 to 5 or six times. They're more healthy. And they've
looked at asthma. They looked at Guillain Bray. They looked at seizures disorders. They looked at a lot
of conditions. Brian told me, he said, when we created this book, we created it as a manual
that parents can take this in and show their pediatrician and say,
look, look at these are color graphs.
One's yellow, one's green.
And it shows you all the way through that the unvaccinated children are so much healthier than the vaccinated children.
Do you think that it is critical for a parent who is not going to vaccinate to have a pediatrician so that there is medical records?
Or do you think you don't necessarily need a pediatrician?
I think that all babies, when they're first born with somewhere within the first couple of weeks at life, should be evaluated preferably by a holistic
pediatrician, but at least by a pediatrician to make sure they don't have
congenital hip dysplasia, they don't have any congenital heart disease that's going on,
that they don't have any overt neurological things.
They need to be evaluated by somebody that knows how to examine a newborn baby.
And after that, they don't need to see a pediatrician.
They need to have a health care provider that knows how to take care of their child.
If they get a fever, if they're vomiting, if they need something like that, which could be a
naturopath, a nurse practitioner,
could be a holistic chiropractor that take care of lots of kids.
Those chiropractors, baby.
So they need to have a health care provider,
but it doesn't have to be a pediatrician.
Yeah, I know the New York Times is going to love that line.
Alex Clark is saying to go to a chiropractor instead of a pediatrician.
They don't understand.
There are reports now of healthy kids dropping dead.
They've gotten the COVID vaccine.
They're athletes on the field.
Is this an epidemic that we're seeing what's going on here?
It's an epidemic.
I mean, the number of the died suddenly really happens and it's still happening, you know, years after the last, after the final COVID shot that they had.
Because the lipid nanoparticles and the spike protein and other things that may be in there that we don't even know cause inflammation of the heart with the myocarditis, the paracarditis.
There's also inflammation of the pancreas leading to diabetes.
there is a huge uptick in the amount of renal failure,
chronic renal disease that we've seen from the COVID shots
that nobody's really talking about,
but it's out there. It's published data.
We know that there's huge studies.
There was a big study that came out of South Korea
that did an evaluation of 22 million people
that lived in Seoul and Icheon in those areas,
that it had at least one COVID shot,
somewhere between one and, you know,
usually two shots in a booster is what they call
considered vaccinated, but they even included people that only had one shot. And there was a huge
uptick in dementia and in memory loss and not thinking as clearly and early onset Alzheimer's.
So this is, these shots are an absolute disaster. They're the biggest crime against humanity
that's ever been committed. Think about this. It was released as an EUA is an emergency utilization
authorization, which means it came to market without any of the long term studies, with any of the
long-term trials without knowing what the side effects and complications were at least that they were
willing to admit. Pfizer wanted to maintain their records away from the American public for 75 years.
And it was taken to court and the judge said, wait a minute. You know, you want to wait till everybody
involved with this is dead before you bring forth the information that shows what the problems were.
Well, the first paper that they released was a 38-page paper. The last eight pages of that paper
listed more than 1,200 disease, side effects and conditions that they knew that the COVID job
could be associated with and never released anybody. To this very day when people say things to me like,
do you think the COVID shot could cause X, fill in the blank? I would say yes, because if there were
1,200 conditions that they knew before they even released it to the public, your symptom is going to fall in there
somewhere or your symptom's going to be related to one of the things that fall in there.
So the long-term side effects and complications, they had no idea.
The whole idea that the lipid nanoparticles collected into ovaries and testicles, they weren't
talking about that.
They said, remember at the beginning, they said, oh, when you get this shot, it just stays
in your arm and the messenger RNA only replicates for a couple of days.
And we've known both of those things to be complete lies.
It's not true at all.
think what's going on is that these are all being reported by local news, these cases of kids
dying on the field. But national news, legacy media is ignoring it because they're all funded
by pharma. So they're ignoring these stories. But if you look into local news in all these states,
you're seeing these stories of these kid athletes that are dying. Ed Dowd's book died suddenly.
His whole book is about that. Oh. You know, Ed Dowd has, you probably know who Ed is. He's a former
BlackRock analysts. So he analyzes all this data. And he looks at analysts in terms of chronic
disabilities and the number of deaths that are going up. He's used actuarial data. And the numbers just
continue to rise, even though the uptake of more boosters is less than 10%. It's still all of these people
who had been given those jabs two, three years ago, that they're still dying and becoming
disabled. And some of them are chronically sick, still able to work, not totally disabled. But they fall into
this category of claiming disability benefits. And his whole book shows picture after picture after
picture of local events. And there's actually a QR code in the book that you can go to the
QR code that takes you to the local newspaper that was talking about the deaths of these
young kids that were just dropping over dead. And the other problem that we're seeing with the
young kids that have been COVID jabbed is now the turbo cancers. You know, before COVID,
turbo cancer wasn't even in the language of physicians.
There was no such a thing, really,
or it happened so rarely it wasn't even talked about.
Now it's just common language.
And the reason they call it turbocancers
is because from the time it's diagnosed
until the time the person dies
can be months, weeks, and sometimes even days.
And we are seeing cancers in younger and younger children
that we generally only saw in adults.
Cancers like prostate cancer
and breast cancer and colon.
cancer in like eight-year-old kids.
What? Yeah, and pancreatic cancer in like teenagers.
Those cancers were generally diseases of people in their 40s, 50s, and older, and we're seeing
these cancers in these young kids that have gotten the COVID jabs.
People are noticing that Gen Z is aging like milk.
Does the COVID vaccine have something to do with that?
I've never heard of aging like milk.
It's like there's literal headlines like, why is Gen Z aging like milk?
Like, they look old.
It could be that they are the most vaccinated,
kids ever if their parents gave them all the vaccines on the schedule. They're loaded up with
aluminum. They still had some of the vaccines like flu shots that still had mercury in them.
They are exposed to all the crappy food, all the food additives and so their health isn't good.
They're addicted to their cell phones so they're not getting out and getting sunshine and
fresh air and exercise. It could be a combination of things. Could be worry. A lot of kids in that
generation are looking at their future and going, how am I ever going to survive this? You know,
I go to college and get hundreds of thousand dollars in debt. I even go to medical school and get
more hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. I can't get a good paying job because now they're
eliminating the jobs with AI and robots. Am I always going to live in the basement with my parents?
Am I ever going to be able to get married and start a family and have a house on my own?
I have friends that have kids that are teenagers, early 20s. And that's what I'm going to be
they talk about. It's like, what does, what does the future look like for me? How reliable is vaccine
safety data for pregnancy? So when they're telling pregnant moms, you need to get a vaccine.
Moms these days get four shots, sometimes five. They get a flu shot. They get a pertussis shot.
They were getting COVID shots and some obstetricians still want to give them COVID shots.
They're now getting RSV vaccines. And if they're RH negative, they'll get one or two
Rogam shots. And I'm old enough to remember back in the day that moms couldn't do anything.
They couldn't take an anihistamine, couldn't drink a glass of wine, couldn't eat tuna fish because
there might be mercury in them. I mean, if you were sick as a pregnant woman, you just had to
tough it out because we were not giving you anything that might expose that baby. And now we're
giving vaccines and drugs and all sorts of things to these moms. The pertussis vaccine information,
I know really, really well. They never did any studies. There's no studies at all on safety.
in pregnant women.
And there is zero studies that were done
because now beginning in about 2014 or 15,
they're now recommending a pertussis vaccine
for every pregnancy.
Every pregnancy.
And there's no safety studies on any of that.
Any of that has ever been done.
The flu shots are, I did a crunch on the data, Alex,
over the last 20 years.
Every year, the CDC has about 120 testing centers out there
for influenza season.
So if you have a runny nose cough, fever, chills,
that you can go into one of these centers,
they'll swab your note, swab your throat,
put it in a test tube and send it to the CDC to be evaluated.
Well, as that test tube comes in the door,
the first thing that happens is they test it to see
is your illness that you're having
caused by a flu virus or something else.
That's the first distinction.
Then if it's caused by a flu virus,
they subtype it,
and that's where we see the information
in the news that says it was a good match or a poor match or it only a match 20 times,
that they tested off of those things to see if the viruses that they test for are the ones,
the same strains that they have in the flu shots.
Well, as they come down in that beginning and they go through that first step,
is your illness caused by influenza viruses or something else?
Over a 20-year period that I test, I crunched their data because the one thing the government
is really good at is data entry.
It makes great tables.
They have data entry for everywhere.
And they test about 600,000 of these swaps per year.
So the sample size is really big.
In that first distinction, 86% of the time it's something else.
Only 14% of the time if you get sick during flu season is your illness caused by an influenza virus,
which means if you choose to get a flu shot, it will protect you maybe 14% of the time.
So what you're saying is the flu shot is a scam.
It doesn't do anything except make you sick.
It's really not necessary.
It increases inflammation.
Increases inflammation.
And up until recently, up until Secretary Kennedy took all the mercury out of the flu shots, which was this year, every year.
If you got a multi-dose flu shot, you got doses of mercury every year from that flu vaccine.
And it doesn't even keep you from getting sick.
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So let's say you are a parent who has fully vaccinated your child. Now you are in immense guilt.
You're like, what have I done? I regret this so much. Or you yourself. Like, until a couple years ago,
I was so clueless, I was getting a flu shot every single year. I didn't know any of this.
It's so crazy that now I'm hosting a health and wellness podcast because I don't know how much you know about
my story, but I was like the chicken nugget queen, lived off Dr. Pepper, fully vaxed. I was
clueless, didn't know what a GMO was, thought organic was a scam. I, like, have totally radically
changed my life, okay, learning all these things. And so I'm on this journey and like trying to
teach my audience the same thing. So like if you're me or if you're a parent who's vaccinated your child,
now you regret it, is there some sort of detox, heavy metal plan that you would be doing to kind
to help with that or is it like lost cause? No, the heavy metal detox, we've been using a product for the
last five years. It's called Pure Body Extra. It's on our website. It's a spray. It's a zeolite spray.
Now, zeolite acts like a little basket that scoops up the microplastics and aluminum and mercury and
cadmium and all the metals in your body. And I explain it to people. It's like, you know,
you used to play with those Chinese finger toys that you put them on and you can't get them off.
Well, that's what happens with this particular zeolite product. It scoops up the microplastics,
organic pollutants, all of the metals that you're exposed to, and detoxes them and takes them out
through your liver and through your kidneys. We've been using this for more than five years.
We've got thousands of testimonies about how it changed the life of their kids as soon as they
started using it. It's completely safe. You can take it when you're pregnant. You can take it when
you're nursing. You can even give it to your little babies right after they're born. I give it to my
dog, which is my little love of my life because he's a little flat-nosed Japanese chin. So he's
out snuff in the grass and all that time. I need that. I have a piece. I have a piece.
Peking ease. Okay. Yeah. So, you know, you want to detox them too. Yeah. Because all the stuff that's falling out of the air. And I just spray a few little squirts in the morning. So it's a zeolite spray. It's a zeolite spray. It's called Pure Body Extra. They can get it from our website. If you go to prime dot DR10 penny.com, you can see it that it's there. Okay. We'll put it in the show notes. It's a really effective and it's so safe and it doesn't have any flavor, doesn't have any taste. We have kids that were autistic and nonverbal. And within a couple of weeks, they started to speak. And
You know, they started to make noises and started to make speech because they were getting the metals, the aluminum and stuff out of their bodies.
So how often do you do that?
You do two sprays once or twice a day.
That's it.
For how long?
When are you going to stop living in a toxic world?
Yeah.
So do you do it every day?
I do it.
It's part of your supplement routine.
Okay.
That's what I need to know.
It comes in a little bottle about like this that sits by my computer, which is where I live my life when I'm at home.
And I just take a couple of sprays every day, you know, just to, and then there's another bottle that sits in the kitchen next to my dog's water bowl.
So I make sure I remember to give it to him.
And so, you know, that really helps.
Another thing that really, really helps is homeopathy.
Homeopathy really helps to neutralize a lot of the adverse resident energy effects from the vaccines.
How risky is measles for kids today?
Because we're being told this is like we're on the brink of catastrophic affairs here.
The measles vaccine came out in 1963.
The year before the measles vaccine was released in 1962, the death rate for the disease
from measles was two in a million. So it was not even deadly before we had a vaccine. So you have to look at
what is measles. Measles is a fever, a cough, a rash, sometimes some diarrhea, has runny eyes and
runny nose. The real high fever that most kids get measles in about age nine helps to burn off any residual
proteins that you have in your body from your mother. And it locks in the basement membranes of
determining, to differentiating between self versus non-self.
Like my self-stuff, I don't have to attack.
This non-self stuff is foreign.
I need to get rid of it.
So the high fever was always there for a good reason.
We know that people who have had natural measles have a lower risk of brain tumors.
That's been proven.
We know that they have a lower risk of renal disease.
And so this whole thing about measles is just a scare tactic to push vaccination.
So when they're saying there's kids that are dying, I mean, just this year from measles, what's your response?
What is their underlying health condition?
Yeah.
The reason that the high fever or whatever was happening to them, you know, the thing that ends up happening is that we play to the lowest common denominator in all of this stuff, Alex.
I mean, if there's four kids that die a year from diphtheria, well, we better vaccinate all of them because your kid might be that kid.
or if there's 1,100 kids maybe per year that die from chickenpox because they have an
underlying autoimmune disease or have some other thing that's going on, it's like, well,
we've got to vaccinate 4 million kids a year for chickenpox because your kid might die
from chickenpox.
You know, one of the things that the pharmaceutical industry has learned to do very well
is learned how to weaponize fear and to impregnate stats into young parents' brains that have
no relativity to their child whatsoever. Why do our laws protect vaccine companies instead of kids?
And how can we start pressuring lawmakers to change that? Well, the 1986 Act that was passed,
the National Vaccine Childhood Injury Compensation Act, gave the pharmaceutical industry
complete liability for every vaccine that is on the pediatric schedule. Now, I've tried several
times to put myself in the position of being a person in Congress in 1985 before they passed that law
to give the pharmaceutical industry
complete liability protection
because the pharmaceutical industry
was pressuring Reagan
and pressuring the rest of Congress
saying vaccination is the cornerstone
of our public health program
and until you protect us
from being sued from this
we're just going to not make vaccines anymore
and then when these kids die
from all these vaccines it's going to be on your head
that was what the conversation was
so I'm sure there was some discussion
about, well, we can protect the pharmaceutical industry from these three vaccines that were on the
market at the time, MMR, DPP and polio. They could do that. But in exchange for that, the
pharmaceutical industry was supposed to give a report through the Secretary of Health and Human
Services every two years demonstrating what they were doing to try to make the vaccines more safe
and more effective. And when was the last time that data was collected? They've never submitted one
since 1986.
Not one at all.
But then after 1986,
they started the big ramp up of the schedule.
Hepatitis B started in 91.
So evil.
The Hib vaccine started in 91.
Chickenpox started in 95.
The Prevnar vaccine came in 2007.
2006 was Gardasil,
and it just kept going from there.
And there's charts now that show
that every time a new vaccine was put into the schedule,
at that point there was another ramp up of autism.
And at that point, there was another ramp up of autism.
There's really thorough charts that are been done from that.
And so they are totally protected.
And I'm sure that the people that were in Congress in 1985 didn't have any premonition that this was going to happen.
They had no idea that they had just opened the barn door and all the horses were going to run out once they gave them complete liability protection.
It's one of the reasons why the flu shot got put on the pediatric schedule in 2004 because I'm sure they went,
We're giving flu shots to everybody and it's not protected and we can get sued from this.
Oh, we know.
Let's start giving it to babies.
So now they give flu shots to babies starting at six months of age and every year of their life thereafter.
And so all of those kids have gotten doses of mercury from the flu shots and they've gotten tons of aluminum.
If you get all the shots on the schedule, by the time you're 18 years of age, you'll have almost 12,000 micrograms of aluminum injected into your body that's stored in your brain, your kidney, your liver, and your bones.
What can we do about it?
Well, there are two bills that have been introduced in Congress right now.
One is to repeal the 1986 Act and the other is to repeal the PEP Act.
And I talk about the PEP Act a lot in my book.
My book is called Zero Accountability in a Failed System,
How Big Pharma weaponized vaccines, public health, and the law.
And the law from the PEP Act protected all things COVID from anybody being sued over all of that.
And the people that were damaged from the COVID vaccine have gotten all thrown
underneath the bus and will never get any compensation because the PEP Act prohibited funding
of an injury compensation program to people injured by a countermeasure that was used during a
pandemic. So right now, should we be picking up the phone and calling our congresspeople and saying
something? You'll have to look up what these bill numbers are and put in the show notes because I
know I'm off the top of my head. That's fine. But there's two bills right now. Both were introduced by
Congressman Massey.
One is to repeal the
1986 Act and the other
is to repeal the 2005
Prep Act. If all of your
audience and all of my audience and all the
rest of the people in America would start
calling Congress and saying, and getting
behind Secretary Massey,
we'll put the number of those
bills in the show notes and saying
we want this to get out
a committee and move into full Congress,
this has to stop. We have
to make the pharmaceutical
industry liable for their faulty, dirty products.
Think about it, Alex.
There isn't another industry in America in the world that if they create a faulty product
and it kills people, that they have no liability for it.
I mean, all of us have heard hundreds of car recalls because a light goes off or because,
you know, they think that something might happen.
Or somebody gets sued because of a faulty product.
The pharmaceutical industry has a free lunch.
from the time your child is born until the time that you die as an adult because none of those products can be sued.
Yeah, we have to change that.
I know that you guys are capable of calling up your congressmen, congresswomen, and demanding answers and asking them to support these bills, for sure.
We can do that.
Where can people follow your work and take your courses if they want to get educated on vaccines?
Well, we started a membership this last year because we want people, parents, everybody, to take responsibility for their lives and take responsibility for their health.
and take their power back.
And the only way you can really do that is you know something about your body.
You know, we know less about our body than we do about our car or our house or our motorcycle.
And so we started a membership so that every month we've been going through different organ
systems in the body and explaining what they are.
And then at the end of the month, we have a master class where I invite an expert to come in an
open forum question and the answer about cardiovascular health, dental health,
GI health, and things like that.
What a cool course for your homeschool high schoolers to take to.
Yeah, it's really super good.
And we also have a whole bunch of vaccine courses.
Like I said before about how to read a package insert.
We have all the pediatric vaccine schedule that are in there that parents,
because as much as you and I could talk for hours and hours, I'm sure,
but it's still just the skim across the top of what parents really need to know.
So if you go to prime.
Dot der10penny.com, prime.
dot DR10penny.com.
You'll see about our courses
and about our products and everything that's
there. And there's a great menu.
People can pick and choose what they want.
If they want to follow me on X,
I mean, that's where we do both of our posting is on X.
I'm at Busy Dr. T.
It really kind of fits me at Busy Dr. T.
We also have a few Instagram channels,
but primarily we post on X.
I do two substacts a week.
On Saturday, I produce one.
It's called Eye on the Evidence,
which is medical or current event related.
It's called, and you can find that
at DR10penny.substack.com.
And then on Sunday, I do a spiritual substack every week
to really encourage people in their faith
and then they're getting closer with their walk with God.
Awesome.
It's called 10penny walk with God.
That substack.com.
We love substack.
If you could offer one remedy to heal a sick culture,
it could be physically, emotionally,
or spiritually, what would it be?
Once you get your life aligned with God
and you start digging into,
the Bible and you start seeing what God encourages you to do and how to live your life, so many of
these other things just fall in line. You are a legend, Dr. Tempenny. It is so great to get to interview
you. You've been wanting to interview you for so long. Yeah, I could have done a way longer
episode. We'll have to have you back. This was fantastic. Thank you so much. We have not really
covered vitamin K that much. We haven't talked about the flu shot. The circumcision part of this
convo was incredible. So we just appreciate you and thank you for all of your work. You've been doing
this longer than anybody. So you are maha before maha and we greatly appreciate you. I hope you know it.
Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I appreciate being here.
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