Dan Snow's History Hit - Is James I an Underrated King?
Episode Date: July 24, 2025We dive into the reign of the first Stuart monarch of England, his political savvy, and the controversies that shaped his rule. From the Gunpowder Plot to the King James Bible, we ask whether history ...has judged him too harshly - or not harshly enough.Historian, author and broadcaster Anna Whitelock joins us for a fresh take on the man who united the crowns of England and Scotland.Produced by James Hickmann and edited by Dougal Patmore.Join Dan and the team for a special LIVE recording of Dan Snow's History Hit on Friday, 12th September 2025! To celebrate 10 years of the podcast, Dan is putting on a special show of signature storytelling, never-before-heard anecdotes from his often stranger-than-fiction career, as well as answering the burning questions you've always wanted to ask!Get tickets here, before they sell out: https://www.kingsplace.co.uk/whats-on/words/dan-snows-history-hit/.We'd love to hear your feedback - you can take part in our podcast survey here: https://insights.historyhit.com/history-hit-podcast-always-on.You can also email the podcast directly at ds.hh@historyhit.com.
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By some accounts, King James I of England, the sixth of Scotland, was a sort of ludicrous
king.
He was stereotyped as dull and uncharismatic, obsessed with strange pedantic religious and
philosophical debates and toilet humour,
and more interested in witchcraft than the traditional pursuits of a king, which is basically
going to war against your enemies and making it even grander and more expansive realm.
And that reputation certainly wasn't helped by the fact that his son Charles I presided
over a catastrophe as England, Wales, Scotland, Britain, Ireland descend into a series of
savage civil wars. So James and Charles in the years after were subjected to an absolute
tirade, an outpouring of anti-monarchal propaganda. It seems to me that for many people, James
the First is a bit of a footnote, doesn't he deserve that much scrutiny? He comes in
the wake of two very famous, very illustrious popular
queens, his mother, Mary, Queen of Scots, and Elizabeth I, the Virgin Queen. He's also
unfortunately squeezed between the Tudor era and that of the Civil War. So perhaps James
doesn't get quite the attention he might deserve, but say we're going to put that right. We're
going to ask if history has been unkind to poor James, the first and sixth. Does he deserve this tarnished reputation, or is he one of the most underrated kings
in British history?
Was he a bumbling, slobbering king with a tongue too big for his mouth?
Or was he rather farsighted?
Was he a peacemaker, a unifier of crowns, a patron of culture?
Someone who at least attempted a smidgen of religious tolerance in a deeply intolerant age.
Joining me to help work it out is Anna Whitlock. She's a brilliant historian, she's an author,
professor of the history of monarchy at City University of London. She has just written a
wonderful new book called The Sun Rising, James the First and the Dawn of a Global Britain. She's
been on this podcast before many times and it's wonderful to have her back. She's going to stand up for King James, see if you agree.
Enjoy.
T minus 10.
The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.
God save the King.
No black-white unity till there is first-in-black unity.
Never to go to war with one another again.
And liftoff, and the shuttle has cleared the tower.
Anna Whitelock, good to see you.
Dan Snow, very good to see you.
Dan Snow, very good to see you.
James I and VI of Scotland, so he's king of, well, complicated, he's king of two kingdoms
at the same time.
Exactly.
And a bit of Ireland.
But anyway, he gets squeezed because everyone loves Elizabeth, widely regarded as top of
the charts.
And then people are interested in Charles I, as hapless son in the Civil War. When you set out on this project, what's the public
perception of James I, if we have one?
Well, I think it's slobbering idiot, tongue too large for his mouth.
And that's actually a thing?
These are the cliches of the period, largely from an ousted courtier, Anthony Weldon, who was out of favour for writing
a scurrilous tract against the Scots and then decided to kind of turn the tables and then
write a piece about James which really had cemented for a long time, really through until
the 1970s, historical reputation, where he fiddled with his codpiece, he drank too much,
his tongue was too large for his
mouth. We think that's kind of perhaps just because he's, I don't know, people say, well,
his Scottish accent just was different from an English one. And there's some people just
felt like he wasn't enunciating his words properly. And yeah, just corrupt.
Very lewd sense of humor is that we get that one.
Yeah, very lewd, effeminate, relationships with male favourites. I mean, even that, I
think hasn't really garnered the kind of attention that of course all the love affairs rumoured
or otherwise of Elizabeth I have garnered. So I was in a way, when I started writing
my book, it was very much about the Tudor bandwagon suddenly stops on the death of Elizabeth
and so much popular interest in the Tudors. Andagon suddenly stops on the death of Elizabeth and so much popular
interest in the Tudors. And then it just drops off a cliff.
It's a guillotine.
Yeah. And no one's particularly interested in what comes next until the Civil War. And
I was thinking, but that's bonkers because of course the day that Elizabeth died is the
day that James becomes King of England. And what's that like? What happens when a new
royal family arrives at court after a long reign of a single
woman? And then I thought, well, so maybe I could tell James's story as part of a story
of the emergence of Britain in the world. And so it was much more ambitious, meant that
I had to travel to all kinds of places that I wasn't familiar with in any way. And in
that sense, it's sort of a
unique telling of James that moves away from the caricature. So I don't really talk about
his love life, his affairs, all of that. Instead, I'm talking about how he's intersecting with the
wider world as a diplomat, as a politician, and supporting travel and trade.
Yeah. So lots of things that we think about happening in the Tudor period sort of happened
under James. That includes Shakespeare writing many of his most famous plays, but also the
genesis of the British Empire. Yes, Francis Drake is claiming it's a land and the stuff
going on in the late 16th century, but a lot of it really gets going in the 17th century
under James and the early Stuart monarchy, right? Exactly.
So people I think probably from school know that there were the circumnavigation of the
globe and they think Walter Raleigh and Francis Drake and we think about New World exploration.
But of course, no permanent colonies were established during Elizabeth's reign.
And it was the East India Company that becomes so significant was chartered by Elizabeth in 1601, but actually
the first ships returned within months of James's accession. And really we see with
the peace with Spain, which James brokers soon after his accession, we see trade really
open up and be, you know, in a way James was-establishing contact with the European continent after essentially
the first Brexit, if you like, the break with Rome and the Tudors, of course, long at war
with Spain and he decided it was time to reconnect with Europe and forge an alliance or at least
a peace with Spain.
Okay, well let's appraise James Afresh here.
Born in Scotland.
Born in Scotland.
Son of Mary Queen of Scots.
Exactly.
Again, a very popular figure who fits nicely into that kind of Tudor princessy world of
fandom.
Exactly.
But no one thinks about a little boy.
No one thinks about a little boy.
And of course, the little boy who became king just barely months old.
So Mary, of course, was forced to abdicate.
And James is this infant in arms, baby in arms,
who becomes King of Scotland. You're absolutely right. The Scottish part is often just a footnote
to James as King of England. But actually what we see in Scotland as he grows up, him
being quite a capable, agile manipulator of factions.
You'd have to be.
Exactly.
To survive.
Exactly.
I mean, it was a hotbed of conspiracy, assassinations, murders.
He was imprisoned for a time, kidnapped.
So he had to be pretty wily to survive and also impose his will against the nobles and
the Scottish church.
And he also, and again, often overlooked that he was really pushing for Scotland
to be recognised as a significant power in Europe. He traded with the Baltic states,
but he was basically saying to the big kingdoms of France and Spain, I'm one to do business with.
Partly that was because James wanted to curry friends for when he claimed the English
throne. But he also had this vision to reunite Europe, to bring together Protestants and
Catholics, and so reunite Christendom, which effectively was Western Europe. Now, how much of this was principle and how much of it was really smart pragmatism?
Because of course, by talking lots about peace, it meant that he could avoid as far as possible
committing to war because war was very costly. And so we see, I mean, in the first stage of that, it comes to fruition where
he is at least not opposed to the English crown. So Spain don't put forward, they don't
get their act together, putting forward their own claimant when Elizabeth dies. And so James
inherits the throne, having played quite a blinder in Scotland to hang onto that throne
and establish himself as a significant
European figure.
So he's King of Scotland's own right, survives a very difficult childhood, establishes himself
as you say, just sits and waits for Queen Elizabeth to die. She is very cagey, but she
does and he is the presumed heir, although she ever acknowledged him or not, she ever
invites him to London and hangs out? No, they don't have a kind of handover.
She does give him a pension, so she tries to kind of keep him sweet. She absolutely doesn't promise
the succession to him because she has a very clear sense the minute you nominate and name your heir,
all attention focuses on that. She played that part during the reign of Mary Tudor. So she
never explicitly names James, but she turns at least a blind eye to secret correspondence
that went on between the Earl of Essex and Robert Cecil with James.
They're doing a bit of an unofficial handover to the transition committee.
Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. So the draft proclamation sent getting James to approve it, that's already
so that when the moment comes, they're ready to go, they're waiting for it. And so despite
the fact that there was a real sense of fear in London, and I think we can often underestimate
that because it all turned out okay, but the end of Elizabeth's reign, beginning of James's
reign, London was in lockdown, there was a plague. Theatres were closed.
People were fleeing London or staying in their homes.
But also the ports were blockaded.
The nobles put their treasure in the tower.
There was a real sense that there could be an invasion.
And as it turned out, it was okay.
But I would argue Elizabeth had set up what could have been a very difficult position.
But James, because we're talking about his surprising successes, he managed his succession.
That is a success.
Exactly.
I mean, and he was a Scottish king.
Come into the English throne.
I mean, you know, you know all the battles between England and Scotland over the centuries.
I don't even know them all.
There's been so many they cannot all be known.
You don't know them.
They cannot all be known.
Well, one day you will know them. But yeah, so here we have it, Scottish King marching,
well not marching, meandering is probably a better word, wandering down the A1 to London,
hunting as he went, stopping off, partying, being hosted, lots of English courtiers going
to him looking to curry favour, Puritans petitioning him ready
for change, Catholics petitioning him, everybody basically looking to James to answer all their
hopes and dreams because that in a way had been his great skill. He had been anything
to anyone. He had promised the world to everybody and by doing that had managed to kind of maintain
a position where everybody hoped in him for something.
You got lucky. He avoided being blown up in the gunpowder plot.
He did.
So well done him. But let's take the different areas. Let's talk about the war. You mentioned
Elizabeth's locked in a long and just extremely costly nightmarish war with Spain. The famous
bits that the English like to remember are the Spanish Armada and the more swashbuckling
bits. But really, a lot of it is going on in Ireland. It's just a catastrophe.
Monstrous crimes, famine, awful fighting. Very, very costly indeed. Elizabeth looks like she's
going to lose occasionally. James resolves that, doesn't he? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. So England
has been at war for like 18 years with Spain. I mean, as you say, it's just become a war of attrition
and the impact at home, taxes, is just extraordinary. I mean,
it's created such profound economic hardship and it just can't be sustained any longer.
One of the things that is really interesting is when James does come to London, inherits
the throne, people look to him as a source of peace. They go, oh, thank goodness, we've
seen that you, of course, as King of Scotland, he was not at war
with Spain. And so they see him as this sort of peacemaker figure. And although there's all the
sort of eulogies to Elizabeth, they're also saying, among the clouds of fear for Elizabeth's death,
the sun is rising. James is going to come and he's going to bring peace, which is what he does. He achieves peace in the Treaty of London,
negotiated at Somerset House, and finally manages to bring to an end this big conflict,
which was costly, as you say, but also was costly in terms of trade and access to the continent.
Because for many people, Catholic Europe had been a no-go area. There was no significant
trade because of embargoes, there was no significant travel. And so after the peace in 1604, the
continent is opened up once again and you begin to see young gentlemen, and of course
it was gentlemen going on, I suppose at the time, what we would call today gap years,
but sort of grand tours where they would go and there would all be this kind of cultural flourishing and they would bring back cultural products
and artworks and stuff and it became this sense of conspicuous consumption.
And indeed, James's son, his eldest son, Prince Henry, the Prince of Wales, who was a source
of great hope and aspiration and ambition, He sent members of his household, because it
wasn't seen as safe for him to travel there, but he'd have his friends going and reporting back and
giving him a flavor of Europe. So suddenly after 1604, Europe opens up again, and that becomes a
really big deal, and particularly also for merchants, because the taxes against English
goods get lifted, and there is once again,
an ability to trade with Spain and Catholic Europe.
Speaking of Catholics, what about the domestic side, like religious side? Because England,
we know since the Reformation, there are Catholics, Elizabeth's persecuting Catholics,
but there's also radical Christians, Protestants, evangelicals who are causing problems. They don't
want any bishops, they don't want an established church, they might not even want a monarch. They're sort of living in these
flatter communities, aren't they, where the only thing is the word of the gospel and they
elect their own preachers and things. How is he trying to sort this religious tumult
out in England?
Yeah, Elizabeth had tried to hold things in check up to a point and then by the end of
her reign in the 1570s and 80s, it was starting to get, there was real hardline action against Catholics. And of course,
the hopes that James had engendered by his accession and before it, when he promised all
things to all men, literally went up in smoke in the gunpowder plot because Catholics were just
like, well, what the hell? You haven't done anything for us. And of course, for extreme
Puritans, he hadn't done much for them either. He decides to have a big
religious convention, the Hampton Court Conference. And in a way, I think this is a prototype to what
he wants in Europe. He talks a lot about wanting an ecumenical council whereby Catholics and
Protestants would come together. He's happy for the Pope to preside over it. And he believes that religious reconciliation, reconciliation from the split of the Reformation
can be achieved.
And this is a means to establish peace and stability and therefore prosperity in Europe.
Now this of course goes against really the currency of the times where it's all about
war and-
The other side of the world in hell.
Precisely. And so, I mean, at Hampton Court, the thing that we know was most significant about it
is the King James Bible. James decides that he wants a text which gets rid of all the kind of
open to interpretation of the Geneva Bible and so on. And instead it's going to be the word of God,
but really it is, as the title suggests, King James's Bible.
It will be really one of the first significant defining features of the British Empire,
ultimately, that this exported text goes around the world, establishing the English language,
with all kinds of phrases, apple of your eye, in the St James Bible. All of these phrases that
we think of today, so many of them, date back to the James Bible.
I'm glad that was one that came to mind when you looked at me. I know, so many of them, date back to the James Bible.
I'm glad that was the one that came to mind when you looked at me.
I know, exactly.
There's a lot worse you could have chosen.
Because before that, there were just Bibles being translated by any old people and printed
in Geneva and printed elsewhere and they were just all spreading among the population.
Pretty much. And it was this sense of like people have their own sense of interpretation.
And James was like, no, this know, this is about uniformity.
And part of it is his conception of this sort of our fledgling idea of Britain that he wanted
to have a clear sense of this is the language, it's under my authority as king. And so the
King James Bible, the legacy of that is hugely significant. And we shouldn't forget that
when we think of James. I mean, at the time, it took a huge amount of work. James was quite involved with it. Committees were established
with Oxford and Cambridge scholars and so on. I mean, it was many years it took. And
James was quite involved because he was a scholar as well as being what I would argue
as a politician.
Did it reconcile? Did it sort of buy off these more evangelical Protestants a little bit?
Or did those splits?
Not really. It didn't. The splits remained. And in a way, we see them sort of buy off these more evangelical Protestants a little bit or did those splits run?
Not really, it didn't. The splits remained and in a way we see them sort of develop in
different ways. So when we think about James's policy in Ireland and the plantation of Ulster,
obviously we see Catholic tensions being hugely inflamed by the actions of James in Ireland. But then of course, we also see the impact
of James' policy on religion with the separatists ultimately who established the Plymouth colony,
who of course decide they just want to create their own religious utopia. They were from
Lincolnshire, the pilgrims of course, the Mayflower, these things that are familiar
to people. That's one of the things that I think was quite interesting when I was working on James, because I thought, oh, Pocahontas,
Mayflower, Hampton Court Conference, all of these things, which are sort of standalone
events in many ways, are really, really part of the narrative of his reign, but also then
have this wider significance in different ways in terms of the global impact. You listen to Anson's history at more on King James coming up.
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the Ancients from History hit. So, like Elizabeth, he fails to reconcile these different religious groups in his kingdoms,
and that will eventually help to destroy the rule of his son Charles.
Yes. So, in the sense of, and this is often the question, is where were the seeds of the
Civil War planted? Yes, you can see them back in James' reign, yes, you can see them in Elizabeth's reign. But James' view was that if Catholics could be loyal subjects, he was relatively
chilled about it. His issue was with the Pope. We see this in his writings when he was King
of Scotland. Then increasingly, he became sort of cause celebra for his writings against the pope.
He talked about him as the antichrist. Yeah, surprise, surprise. Kings don't like
popes. Exactly. Kings, I mean, he was also a winning sort of-
It's a sovereignty dispute. He was a winning campaign really to be seen
as the spokesman for monarchs in Europe. But he was like, you know, the pope shouldn't have
deposing power. And so again, he really pushed himself forward to be the leading European spokesman for this.
Now again, I think part of that was principle.
I mean, he thought that was outrageous.
And the divine right of kings, which we've attached very much when we think of James,
that also evolved to become very much against the papal antichrist and the ability of the
Pope to depose monarchs. Let me pick you up on that because that's what lots of people talk about this period,
the divine right of kings. So James believed that he was on the throne, touched by the divine.
Touched by the divine. I mean, it was also about what that meant in terms of
the position that he had had relative to others.
There's no pope above him. There's nothing between him and God.
Yeah. In temporal masses, he believed so that hence parliament not being able to have a
freedom of speech. Ultimately, it was down to him. And so the idea became particularly
evolved for James when the Pope was, for example, in dispute with the Republic of Venice. I
mean, there was this great sense of James basically was like, this is the time where
we all need to
come together, European leaders, and push against the Pope. But of course, what James's role in this
was, was very much the rhetoric. He did the spin. He didn't want to commit to any kind of military
action. And I think this is where you have seen James as sort of having a kind of effeminate attitude. He didn't want to engage in war.
People, historians have also said, yeah, well, there was a real tension between James and his
son, Henry, Prince of Wales, who died prematurely at 18. But he, in his 18 years, was everything that
James wasn't. I mean, he was this young warrior king. He wanted to just sort of go into battle. And so many of the hopes of former military
men of Elizabeth's reign were projected onto the young Henry Prince of Wales. But I think
there's evidence to suggest that James actually curated and cultivated that idea of Henry
being in good time, England would be this
leading force in Europe.
Because James also inherited an empty treasury, didn't he?
Precisely.
The cupboard was bare.
The cupboard was bare.
He inherited kind of like a year's debt, peacetime revenue.
I mean, he had no money.
I mean, initially when he came to England, he was kind of like, oh my goodness, this
is like manna from heaven.
Because of course, compared to Scotland, England did have money. I think he knighted about 190
people on his way down from Scotland to London. Some of it was dodgy dealings, but he was known
for his largesse. Again, that's part of the caricature of James. But I think there's evidence that he was pretty pragmatic. He knew that England
could not afford, or he's fledgling Britain, could not afford war. He knew that people
would not pay taxes. There just wasn't an appetite for war anymore. And so, I mean,
the only way he could try to raise money, which he did, through forced loans on the
city, he also, through customs duties, that became a
really big source of revenue for him. One of the conclusions that I came to, I think, is that
actually James really broke the mold in many ways of being a king where it was all about military
might and plaudits through battle and his drive being all about war.
James I think was a man ahead of his times and actually he sought to forge his reputation
as a politician and as a diplomat. He was kind of punching above his weight. He was
talking the talk knowing that he wasn't able to actually deliver a significant military
force. But actually he talked up
Britain's position at a time when it really had no money. And in that sense, I think he
was pretty successful and in many ways a kind of modern type of leader, more than the sort
of medieval type of king that had preceded him.
So he's thinking about ruling philosophy, divine right of kings, his legitimacy. He
is talking about peace
across Europe, as you say. So yes, he's using a lot of soft power here.
Exactly.
And then there's, on top of that, presumably culture, British culture at the time, Shakespeare
plays, architecture, all that kind of stuff.
Exactly. So I mean, the relations with Europe and the ability for people to travel and trade
meant that Europe is opened up. and so yeah, the sort of
culture of Europe moves more readily through into Britain. As you said, I mean, William Shakespeare, who so many people associate with Elizabeth, I mean, he was one of the King's men. He was the
King's playwright and the first Christmas that the Stuarts have a court, Shakespeare is there
putting on plays. So he's absolutely the
heart of the court. And also, of course, James and his wife, Anna of Denmark, love to stage these
elaborate court masks. So theatre was really important, writing was really important. So
there was this kind of flourishing of art under James And both his sons actually, first Prince Henry
and then Charles, were great art collectors.
They built up libraries.
Architecture becomes a big thing.
Of course, banqueting house was burnt down.
And then the new banqueting house
was built, people like Indigo Jones.
So there really was a flourishing of architecture
and art, literature, and drama.
The sorts of things that people associate with Elizabeth
but were happening very much under James too.
So tonight, greats are the battlefield.
He sort of pivoted and he developed soft power,
a bit like Britain in the late 20th century.
So with ideas and culture, he found greatness in other ways.
Absolutely, I mean, that's what to me was really interesting.
If people thought about it, Britain had no standing army.
There was no regular revenue to the crown, regular taxation. But he was really up there as one of the most
significant European statesmen. He would be publishing these treaties against the Pope,
about the Pope. People would be looking to Britain, looking to Prince Henry, his son,
before his death as being a future great warrior leader. And then of course,
James's other tactic alongside the spin, which was really what it was, the rhetoric, the principle,
his diplomacy, was how he planned to use the marriages of his children. So the marriages of
his children were going to be the capstone of his policy of religious reconciliation.
So essentially he was going to marry one of his children, his daughter Elizabeth, to a Protestant,
and he did, the Elector Frederick of the Palatine, and he was then going to marry his son,
first Prince Henry, and then when he died, Prince Charles, to a Catholic.
So he would basically create
this balance in Europe by Protestant and a Catholic marriage. And he thought that again,
this would be a means by which Europe could be reconciled. And he really did talk a lot
about that. And it wasn't an idea that was completely dismissed at the time, this idea
of a religious reconciliation. And it wasn't simply because James was a bit effeminate
and a bit weak and didn't like war. First of all, he was pragmatic about the money.
But also, I think there's evidence to suggest that his big focus was on the Ottoman Turks.
So actually, he thought Europe needs to be united or reunited and stable, and then we
can really go against the Ottoman Turks. If he wasn't purely a sort of pacifist just for the sake of it, I think he was principled, he was pragmatic. And in that sense,
I think has been, as you said, overshadowed by the stereotypes. And in so many ways, he really
doesn't conform and breaks the stereotype because of course his son, Prince Charles, who becomes
Prince of Wales after his brother's death. And the great drama, I suppose, at
the end of his reign is that James, who has been this great peacemaker, his daughter marries
the elect of Frederick. And it's great. This is the first stage of a big, you know, if
the Protestant marriage and the elect of Frederick leading the Protestant union, it's all good.
And James, of course, this is only step one, there's going to be a marriage to a Catholic. But then,
what happens? His son-in-law goes a bit rogue. The 30 years war happens. The 30 years war,
he accepts the Bohemian crown. And suddenly it's like, goodness me, what is going on? You
were not supposed to do that. A massive religious war. A massive religious war. And what was amazing really is reading the letters from Elizabeth, Elizabeth Stewart,
who for a very short time is the winter queen, her husband, the winter king.
Queen of Bohemia, yeah.
Queen of Bohemia.
They were only there and then they got thrown out of Bohemia.
And she's basically for a very short time and then she goes into exile with her husband
in The Hague.
And they're writing to James going, you can't leave me. What kind of father are you? James is like, hold on a second,
my whole plan for peace is completely going up in flames here because of course he had been this
great champion of peace and Europe was absolutely imploding. James' solution rather than think,
actually I'm just going to have to lean into
this and send an army, is no, no, no, let me just push for a marriage for Prince Charles
with the Infanta Maria of Spain.
Because then that will be a marriage.
And as part of the prenup, he'll just get Philip to sort out the Austrian Habsburgs,
we'll get them to sort out and bring an end to this nasty conflict in Europe.
That doesn't happen. And so by the end of his reign, James has been really wrong-footed by his children
because Elizabeth is putting pressure on her brother, Prince Charles, who has got very
close to James's favourite, George William, the Duke of Buckingham. And really Buckingham
and Charles are by the end of the reign, pushing parliament and really in command
of parliament much more than James, and get to the point that shortly after James' death,
there is an army being sent to the continent. But James can say that he preserved peace
throughout his reign, which in that sense is no small feat.
And James can also say, if he was alive here with us now, you see what happened after I died?
Because those armies that Charles, King Charles I said to the content were an absolute catastrophe.
Yeah, it proves his point.
I mean, exactly.
We were never going to be able to sustain a significant military force.
It was always going to be a disaster.
And whereas James had promised a lot, never really been tested, but through his rhetoric
had been seen
as this really smart, forward-thinking statesman,
actually Charles just completely pulled
that kind of edifice down,
and the rest is history, as they say.
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So a generation of historians a hundred years ago thought, we like the monarchs who fought
Europeans and extended empires like Elizabeth, they seem to have done. That's why James
has been a bit overlooked because he was a bit out of fashion, presumably, in a world
where surely you want to be taking it to the Spanish and raiding them and establishing
new colonies everywhere.
Exactly. I think that's exactly it. And so he was dismissed as simply kind of effeminate.
And then of course, it was conflated with the fact that he had these very close, possibly
probably homosexual relationships with male favorites. And it was just seen as, and then
he's such a pacifist. So we had this monarch who just simply wasn't interested in war and
it was stereotyping cliche.
But of course, when you actually look with a more global gaze, you see, for example,
during James's reign, the first ambassador being sent to India, you see permanent colonies
being established in the New World.
You see attempts to establish trade in Japan and indeed to reach China for trade.
Now of course the question is, well, how much did James have anything to do with that? Well,
I mean, ultimately James wanted to profit from trade. So he created the conditions,
he chartered the companies and in that sense gave crown support because he wanted to profit
from them. And then ultimately over time, and particularly
with the Virginia Company and in the New World, the colonies, ultimately by the end of his
reign such was the disorder of the Virginia Company that he took over and essentially
it becomes a royal colony. So actually, maybe not that impressive in Europe in terms of
expansion of territory, but in terms of expansion of
trade routes and territories in a more global way.
It's all going to happen.
Exactly.
Britain, England, Scotland remain separate kingdoms, but he does a lot to try and create
a British culture that's near a British elite.
Is that a success?
I mean, not really.
I mean, of course he wants to create a union.
He wants one king, one law.
He wants it all to be unified.
He's like, look guys, we're all one island. He doesn't want to be bigamous. He said, I don't want
to be a king of Scotland and a king of Wales. I need to be a king of Britain because otherwise
I'm a bigamous king. And then he talks about God created, there's nothing separating England
and Scotland. So why are we opposing division that God hadn't created? But in a nutshell,
the English parliament were like,
we're not going to have a load of Scots. A, they're not as good as us. B, they're going to come
here and take our jobs and take our money. We're not interested. And the Scots were like, well,
we want to be absolutely on equal par with England. We're not going to be the junior partner in this.
And so all of James's plans to have a common currency and common law and common institutions,
that all went by the by. But he proclaims himself King of Great Britain. Indeed, when ambassadors
or kings are writing back to James, they do refer to him as King of Great Britain. So there is this
sense of Britain abroad. He also creates the Union Jack and he also manages to get through
birthright citizenship. He again argues against his parliament that if you are born in Scotland
after his accession, you also have rights in England as well. He goes some way to establish
Britain, but also I think what we do see and what again was really interesting is that an identity emerges, particularly when his daughter and the Protestants
are under such peril in Europe. We see this sense of people going, come on, let's come
together and fight as Britons. And actually they see that the fact that this union could
be amazing as a Protestant force. At the same
time, we also see the rise of newspapers and real interest in Europe because people were
so interested in the plight of the king's daughter. A unified identity emerges in a
way, not in a way that James would perhaps have wanted, but as a sense of a Protestant
Britain and what it could do in relation to
the continent and the plight of the Protestants there.
Paul Matzkoff Tough time, tough neighborhood. King James,
after him came the deluge, terrible civil war, ripped Britain apart, arguably Britain's
bloodiest war per capita in its history. Does he deserve the blame for that, or was it just the
time, his slightly useless son, lots of Protestant headbangers, massive war in Europe, problems hung over from the Tudor settlement in terms of finances and
religion?
I mean, was it just an unmanageable?
I think it probably was inevitable.
I think James's reign saw cracks emerging, you know, the relations with parliament, parliament
asserting its voice, wanting a role in, well, just freedom of expression,
really, wanting to have its say. I mean, the genie was out of the bottle in many ways during
James' reign, but I don't think necessarily as a product of what James did. I think the
religious tensions that we see in Elizabeth's reign, through James' reign, unresolved issues
in Scotland and Ireland, it was kind of inevitable, I think. And I'm not sure that James could necessarily
have done much to put the genie back in the bottle.
It all came down to his poor son, who definitely didn't have the firepower to do it.
Absolutely not.
Anna Whitelaw, thank you very much for coming on this podcast.
Pleasure. Thank you so much.
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