Dissect - Childish Gambino is back! First reaction to Bando Stone & The New World

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

Cole and Cam share their thoughts on Childish Gambino's new album (and soon to be film) Bando Stone & The New World. They cover the album's rollout, its exploration of genre, initial thoughts on its concept, and name their Top 3 favorite moments on the album so far. At the end of the episode, they also share their favorite albums of 2024 so far. Host/EP: Cole Cuchna Guest: Camden Ostrander Audio Engineer: Kevin Pooler Theme Music: Birocratic Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you had to choose just one song to define your favorite artist, what would it be? I'm Cole Kushner from Dyszek. And I'm Charles Holmes from The Midnight Boys, and on Tuesday, July 9th, Cole and I are dropping season three of Last Song Standing, the show we were you determined an artist's single greatest song by debating our way through their entire catalog. Our first two seasons covered Kendrick Lamar and Frank Ocean, and for season three, the L-W-S boys are revisiting one of the most creative,

influential duos of all time, Outcast. We're talking every album, including Aquamini, ATL, and Stankonia, speakerbox to love below, and even the loose season features. The third season of Last Song Standing will publish right here on the Dysect feed, so join us every Tuesday beginning July 9th. Welcome everyone to a special episode of Dysect. I am your host, Cole Kushna, and today we are talking Bando Stone and the New World. The fifth and possibly final album from Childish Gambino was released last week on July 19th.

We are recording this just four days, five days. since the album came out, we're going to give our initial impressions. We're going to talk some concepts. We're also going to give you guys our top three favorite albums of the year at the end of the episode. And I'm joined today by the preeminent Childish Gambino Scholar, the representative of the Childish Gambino Superfan, Dissect Collaborator, Camden Ostrander. How are you doing?

There's a new Childish Gambino album. How are you feeling? I'm feeling amazing. Thank you, Cole. Thank you for the wonderful, nice intro. No, this is the best. There's so much crap going on, but we have a Childish Gambino album. Yeah, the world's in chaos, but it's been a great year for music so far. Exactly. For music, you and I got a lot of good stuff. Yeah, my favorite artist, Kendrick, just demolished someone else in a rap battle. Childish Gambino has been very active. It's been a beautiful year for music so far. So we're going to get into album concepts, sound, everything like that in a little bit. As much as we can, yeah.

As much as we can, we'll talk about kind of our limited perception of the world that this thing lives in. But I just want to know initial impressions, first listen, continuous listens, how are you feeling about this album Band of Stone in the New World? I'm feeling like very overwhelmingly incredible about this album. Like as a long time childish Gambino fan, very apprehensive about like a last album deal. Very like I didn't know what was going to happen. I cannot believe we got all of this incredible stuff. Like it's he talks about like it feeling lush and he has a lot of very vibrant dimensurate

and it feels like that completely as an experience. Like this is everything we could have got. It feels like it lived up to the expectation. and we'll talk about the specifics of the rollout in a moment, but it did seem like he was building this up. He's been, it feels like he's 100% into it. It's not just kind of something he released into the ether,

kind of what I felt like maybe 315 was or even at a vista, or there didn't seem to be much press around that. And it does feel like his creative kind of soul is 100% behind this thing. And he's really giving it his all. And it lived up, I mean, I'm just going to say it. I think this is my favorite childish Gambino album. I know that's early to say, but in terms of the musicality, the production, the variety of sounds, some of the concepts that I think he's reaching towards and that hopefully be fully illuminated with the film,

I am incredibly impressed with this album so far. Again, it's only four or five days into it, but it gave me the, like first listen, it gave me the, feeling that most of my favorite and I think the greatest albums give me, which is, huh. Like, you end the album, you're just like, huh, I'm not quite sure what to make of what I just experienced, but I know I want to keep listening. And then you get the multiple listens and you get every time you're finding new gems, new sounds, new lyrics, new concepts.

And it's just rewarding every single time you're listening. And I just want to keep, I just haven't stopped playing this. album since it came out. But am I off base? Am I just too excited? Am I living? Do I have recency bias? What do you feel?

I mean, as someone studied every one of his albums, how are you feeling in terms of it? Maybe you don't have to like call it a favorite or his best, but like how does it stack up within his, his larger catalog? It feels like it meets the mark of all of his best work. Like, I'm so excited that we now get to have this for the future. Like every, like with the ha and the wanting to explore more. I am so looking forward to having more time with this. Like, it feels like the first time I listened to because the internet or the first time I listened to Awaken my love as like the high moments of like, yep, we have this now.

And this is all I'm going to be listening. Like this is so exciting. This is a gift. Yeah. This is wonderful. It really, yeah, that's a good way of putting it because it is going to be in our lives. We know for the foreseeable future. and there's going to be so much to learn and discover from it as all great works of art.

Give us if you, as we always say on the show, it feels like one of those albums, the more you give it, the more it will give back to you. And not all, I mean, most albums aren't that, I don't think. And this does feel like it has the depth to warrant continued study and revelation, I think. But before we get too much into the album, I'm glad we're on the same page in turn. of both being impressed by it. Everyone that I've talked to seems to be in love with it as well. I haven't really heard.

And it seems like the early reviews have been great. You may have read more than I have. I mean, I get to see the dissidents because I'm looking for everything. But yeah, overwhelmingly, I do see a lot of positive talk, which is really nice. How is the Reddit? I don't do Reddit too much, but are you on the Gambino Reddit at all? Like, looking to see reactions? I think all the fans, like he made it.

he's talked about this in interviews and we're going to talk about this more. He made this with his fans in mind and we appreciate it, I think. Like, I think it has done what he wanted it to do in that sense. So I, yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay, so let's take a step back though because if we're kind of just, if we remove 31520 from the conversation just for this exercise, you know, childish Gambino has been somewhat on a hiatus since awake. 2016's Awaken My Love. And that's a, what, eight-year span almost, you know, where we didn't get the most, you know, Childish Gambino wasn't active and,

well, at least in this way, compared to recently. And even though we did get the pandemic album, it did feel like, I don't know, I don't even know how to talk about that album, to be honest. He gave it to people, had it because he thought the world was ending. Like, okay, here we go. Here's a nice little treat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you can walk us through just Donald Glover since 2016, the major bullet point for us,

the major works, because as we're going to talk about, yeah, just to set it out, I mean, as we'll talk about Childish Gambino may be over with this album, but Donald Glover, the creative is certainly not. And in this break of Childish Gambino projects, we got a lot of Donald Glover creative output. So yeah, why don't you just kind of run us through that kind of list of things? Yeah, for sure. So we got Awaken My Love in 2016. It was the same time that we got Atlanta first season of that. And we ended up getting four seasons of that. And notably, it's also the beginning of when he became a father. So it's like when his family began. So you can see why maybe

we didn't get as much childhood scampina music. He was busy. We got, This is America, S&L. In 2018, so we got This is America, which was a huge cultural moment, obviously, kind of changed a lot of the conversation that happened around his music. So I think that caused a bit of a shift in how he was planning on going forward. He also had Star Wars. He had the massive press tour for that. He had his live tour that he built around This is America. And he had the passing of his father. So he had like a bunch of, he had like major moments in 2018 that kind of probably pumped the brakes on if we were going to get any like traditional albums close after.

that right 2019 he did like a festival tour to kind of cap off of this is america we got like guava island we got lion king like he kept he had these big massive projects he had i think that was when he had his third kid as well so that's all all of his children had been born by 2019 we got he had an amazon deal and this is when he started developing and this is what i think we're thinking about we think about like don't glover is just getting started this is when gilga and gilga farms which appears to be like the creative compound collective that he's been nurturing really took root. So he has like this farm. He has this creative team that he's working with.

They've had a few projects come out. They've been connected with like Swarm and Mr. and Mrs. Smith. And there's like a massive deal that's connected with Amazon. Like he's got a lot of money coming into this. So he's had that. And then this year we got Bando Stone and we got an album in the rollout. we got Atta Vista when he like reworked 31520. I don't know if anybody else has ever put an album out as part of a rollout for an album before.

But like it feels like it ties into this like gift for the fans, you know, like closing that loop that we're maybe all a little bit confused about if it was finished and if we were going to ever see the finished product. But yeah, that is interesting to think about an entire album in the rollout to another album. So obviously he's been very active creatively. Is there a standout project in that time span that you kind of look towards as your, I don't know if your favorite or you feel like it's his best work within that span of time? I think the most like the interesting thing to think of, I don't know if I can pick a favorite, but I know that I keep coming back to like the farm,

the Gilga project. Like he's talked about a lot in recent interviews. Like he's like, I can grow my own fruit now. Like I know how to do that. And like thinking about that, thinking about him on his personal life, cultivating a family, laying down these roots for like whatever is going to be next. That's what really gets my interest. Yeah.

As far as like he's just kind of been like planting these seeds. Right. Yeah. Interesting. I will just, I'll just have to say Atlanta is one of the best. Oh, yeah. And Atlanta. I've ever watched in my life.

One of the most interesting. I need to return to it. I've only watched the series once, like each season once. I've been meaning and return to at least some of those episodes. That's going to, yeah. And I'll talk about it later, but actually this album kind of reminded me of Atlanta in some ways. Okay, so let's talk about the Bando rollout specifically, because this feels like one of the more nuance, thought about rollouts. And we know Gambino is one to build a world around his albums, and it feels like he's doing that.

we should probably say up top, like, this is supposed to be a soundtrack for a movie. Right. That is eventually going to release it sounds like an IMAX, or at least that's what the end of the trailer alludes to. Mm-hmm. But yeah, I did want to give some love to the rollout because, I don't know, I, rollarts are so strange now. It's either you have these kind of long tail where you get these like clues on social media and it's all feels very sloppy sometimes. Yeah. This one just felt very thought about and it felt like world building more than it did a traditional rollout.

So do you want to go through some of the major kind of items of the rollout? Like we know if people have listened to season seven of what we've done with because internet, like we know the rollout is really important for the work. We know Donald can do a lot of it. He's talked about it being intentional and him, I think on an Instagram live, he said like I want to make trying hard cool again like I'm trying to make this happen so like that's the world that he's kind of building um we haven't seen him like this active in this normal of a fashion in so long which is kind of like really refreshing so we're getting a lot of like

entertaining material like he's on social media again he's doing the tictox like he's he's transparent about like the people that are working with him on the tic talks like his team like the people that he that he's hired and everything he's doing like regular interviews again He isn't interviewing himself. Like he did a couple years ago, he's actually talking to other people. He's doing kind of like the ones. He did hot ones. He did Apple Music.

He's doing his cohesive outfitting again. During the Because Internet era, he was dressed up as like the character from the album. The character from the movie, as far as we can tell, he's dressing up pretty similar to that. And now it's like there's kind of probably a catch in like, this is just how he dresses. but it is also like he's making it like a cohesive image. We see him in the work. We see him in real life in the public sphere. He's doing a lot of that world building stuff that he did back in because internet days.

Right. It's been pretty cool. Yeah. Do you think all the rollout stuff is a part of this idea of like trying hard and being okay with promoting your work and wanting to people like being okay with you wanting people to listen to it? Mm-hmm. How did he phrase it like making things valuable, like making something valuable so that people will then value it.

He's like, this is really hard in today's age. Like nobody gives, nobody cares is a thing that's a big part of the album, right? So he's making something that we can care about. And that requires, I think, effort. Right. As at least part of what he's saying. He also, he's doing like live installations again. Like we've had the Little Island New York performance.

where he kind of brought everybody onto an island for a performance of the album. That's when Foucher and Steve Lacey were there. Like that was a really cool introduction. And then he's done this like pop art where, or pop up where he's done like the Quick Mart 5 that is in the movie. But he made that in real life, which is very reminiscent of like installations he's done in the past. Where you make a bit of the fictional world in the real world,

you get to bring the audience in, really engaging them in that way. Yeah. he's doing a lot of cool stuff. It does all feel like it's culminating not only to the film, but more so the live show, especially after, was it, yeah, the Apple Music interview where he said, I think he said directly, like, the live show is the most important part. It's where people come together to experience it.

And listening to the album with that in mind, like some of these songs live, oh my God, are going to be absolutely transcendent. Just the production on it. I was trying to, like, specifically imagining some of these songs live this last time I was listening to it today. And I was like, I just need to go. Yeah. I just need to go. Okay.

So let's get into the actual album. Producers on this thing, I wanted to shout out before we get into the music just to acknowledge some of the people that have worked on this. Gambino, there's a lot of self-production on pretty much every song it feels like. And some of them are exclusively credited to just, childish Gambino. We also have Ludwig Gordson, who has had an incredible run recently and has become one of the most important musicians in the world, quite literally. Did he win, he won best score for for Oppenheimer. For Oppenheimer. I just recently rewatched that movie. Holy shit. That score is absolutely insane. It is so good. But it was cool to see him returning in a major way on this album.

DJ Dahi is a big, big producer on this who produced a lot of at a vista. Michael, do you know how to say this name? We really need to step up. We need to know how to say his name. He's so important now at this point. Yeah. Max Martin, Steve Lacey, Sir Dylan, who I wasn't familiar with, but then I looked up some of his credits, Sir Dylan, produced for Assiza, Rosalia, Salon. So he's got some major work.

So incredible lineup of producers. and I think one of the things that really stuck out to me immediately and obviously to a lot of people was just the variety of genres that this album kind of fluidly and maybe unapologetically is not the right word but there doesn't seem to be much consideration and try to ease you into some of these transitions. The juxtaposition of sounds I think is part of the concept.

Like he's been hearing his entire career like, oh, you're trying to do too much. Oh, what do you think you are being, artist being a singer, being an actor, being da-da-da. And he was like, okay, let's go even further. Within music, how much can I, he's like almost inviting that criticism of like he's going to do every single different genre that he can. Yeah, I was so excited. So happy to see and hear all that happening. Yeah. Yeah. But when I was kind of trying to wrap my head around it, Because the more I listened to it, the more it did feel, like the album to me, with, like, with all the genres that he's exploring, it risks becoming, like, messy or, you know, not, could not feeling cohesive.

But there is some kind of through line that I'm still trying to kind of figure out why these songs do sound so great together. One is kind of similar to Igor. And this is just, like, initial impression. So I'm not entirely sure on it. But it does feel like in the same way that Igor used the distorted bass on almost every single song to kind of bridge a lot of the variety of sounds on that album. I think this album does it even more. But if you listen, a lot of the songs, even the ones that you wouldn't really expect, like the softer songs, do have this kind of distorted bass drum that's consistently in them. And there is a kind of grittiness to some of even the more polished songs or the more pop sounding songs.

So that's one just small detail I noticed. But if you look, I put every song into like a genre bucket and really came out with three main ones. So there's kind of like the electro, more aggressive rap or even dance where you have songs like hearts were meant to fly, talk my shit, got to be Yoshanoa, cruising, a place where love goes. Then you have this kind of indie pop sound like Lithonia, Real Love, Run around. advocate kind of. And then you have this like futuristic island, Afro beat sound or songs like step speech in the night. Can you feel me? No excuses. We are God. Happy survival. Kind of fit into the bucket. So even though it does seem like there's this kind of wider eclecticism happening, there is like some main pillars, I would say. And again, I'm not, I'm kind of still trying to

wrap my head around it, but those are some of the things that I think we're tying things together. but what do you feel about this variety of sound? Does it feel, do you feel that cohesion too? I do feel like the cohesion. It makes sense given that it's a soundtrack also. Right. And the film, it's going to make, I feel like it's going to make more sense when we see the film, like how the different genres work together and how you're able to make all these

different things more cohesive. It all, like, when he keeps talking about like how lush he was trying to make this be like the rainbow color striation that's on the side of the album. cover. It's like almost like maximalism. Like it can appear messy, but if it's done right, you can make everything kind of go together. You can fill it all. If he's always been trying to show like the wholeness of an experience, you know, making different media, different forms to like bring experiences together and make connective tissue, he's doing that within the discipline of music now. Like it works for me. That's what that's what it reminded me about like Atlanta.

because you had episodes, especially as the show went into the third and fourth season, you would have episodes that seem singular and would be just, you'd have different characters as the main characters. It seemed singular, but then it also kind of worked within this larger storyline that was happening or the larger themes being explored.

The entire episodes were like none of the main cast is present in an episode of Atlanta. But it is, Atlanta and it feels like part of yeah that makes a lot yeah and it did and even yeah even even with the lack of care main characters it did it didn't feel totally outside of the realm of the show and it feel that it just it just reminded me that that same kind of concept where you can pluck a song out of this like real love lithonia running around like and put it directly against a song like

hearts, you know, the opening track and be like, that's on the same album. Right. But and that's why, you know, we talked just very briefly through text about the single in the night. And when I heard that single as a standalone single, I wasn't like wildly impressed with it. And then when hearing it within the context of the album, it works so great. It plays off the other song so well.

And I really like that song now. I feel like it's speaking to also more contemporary listening practices. like people are listening to crazily different, like we have so much more access to music and content that it makes sense when like somebody has

JPEG Mafia and Clero in the same playlist, right? Like people love that type of stuff where we're like this crazily different things are kind of all, we're finding the what is it? What is the Spotify? Like pollen?

Is that the one where it's like, what brings these together is just that it's good? They have some phrase for it, right? But like this is one, album sort of operating in that mode almost is sometimes how I think about it. Yeah, it's almost like playlisty. Right. Yeah.

And I do think, yeah, I do think the film will help contextualize some of this. But I do think it's interesting that he released the soundtrack, quote unquote, for the film first without having seen the film or even knowing too much about it aside from the trailer. It was interesting. Like, I didn't know why he did that. He kind of explained it on an interview later. but, and he kind of validated what I thought, which was a lot of times when you get the soundtrack after the movie, you can't help but just relate the songs to the thing that you already saw. And it almost feels ancillary to the movie where releasing the music first forces you

to just evaluate it on its own with the active. And it also encourages active exploration and meditation and just thinking about. how this might then fit in with the film. But I thought that was really smart to release the music first and allow it to stand on its own for a while before we got the film. Did you, what are you thinking about that? Yeah, like on the Apple Music interview, he says like he's trying to engage or encourage audience participation.

Like, you have to participate in the art. You're thinking about what's happening in the story. You're thinking about it more. And like, this is something he has always done, is trying to make something that encourages an audience to make more connections themselves. When he gave us a hybrid web script that had video clips, but then we had to go play the song on the other thing.

And then we were thinking about all the things he had made and how they had connected to the script. Or like, he's just always putting these different pieces around. And he's trying to find different ways to make us participate more. He's connecting with us in that way and getting us a lot more engaged. Like this is very him. This is, this is child like childish gambino kind of represents. this idea, right, as a connective tissue.

And that seemed, yeah, was that present and Awaken My Love as much? There were, like, it was like what the live show, I think was part of it. It wasn't, Awakened My Love was more musical because they had Atlanta. So like if you, and we still haven't figured it out, but like the connections between Awaken My Love and Atlanta, the ideas of like fatherhood, I think that that's going to take people longer. I'm sure he was doing some stuff there. but like the album art appears in the background of one of the like scenes in the show.

They have a lot of similar themes. Like that's, I think, a little more out there. That one. Okay. Okay. So what do you, I know it's very early. Again, four days, five days since. But do you have any thoughts on a possible narrative, themes, concepts, just with the music,

knowing you know about the rollout and a little bit about the film's plot? is there anything taking shape in your mind yet? Yeah, so like obviously again, we're so early, but it is so fun. Like, this is what he wants you to do. It's like, think about it. He starts off the album with like, are we going to die?

Not tonight, which I think is a very interesting start. Like, we're already looking at the end. What's about to happen? Importantly, saying that to a child. Yeah. I'll just point that out, but go ahead. Yeah.

I, we got to think about like the family structure. Okay. On the album, if you look at it, I think that if you look at the album, them as a narrative like got to be feels like a point of no return on like the hero's journey if we're thinking about it in that way like there's a lot of chaos there is a need and impulse he has got to do something it also that's where it's very clear that the identities are all present because as we talked about on because of internet he was like weaving together donald glover

childish gambino and the boy the character of that story by got to be he has had somebody say Donald Glover and Childish Gambino and Bando Stone have all appeared by name on the album. Oh, interesting. So, like, that's when, yeah, so they're all there. Yeah. We're doing something like that again. Right. We don't know yet.

It also got to be has an outro that sounds eerily like the boy's mother on because of internet. There's like that haunting female vocal that's like distorted with the tech at the end. Okay. giving some, we don't know yet, a piece of wisdom, perhaps, I don't know. So we've got a lot, like we've got some old narrative calls. And then the way I see it,

I think there's probably an ending of sorts that we are God. It's just such a culminating moment. It references a lot of things from Childish Gambino's entire discography. And when it's contrasted against what happens afterwards, like I wonder which of these songs are like, this is a Bando song.

Like, this is, is, is this part of the fiction? I don't know. If we think about that, running around and Dadvocate sounds so different when they're put after we are God. So it makes sense. Let's contextualize Bando. We should just say he's a musician.

In the film, he's a musician. Yes. He's on an island of some sort. Do you know the island at all? We don't. It's like he's gone here to record his masterpiece. It's like the concept. And then

Yeah, so he stuck, so this musician stuck on the island, there's some kind of apocalyptic event or event occurring. And then he is kind of forced, what's the line from the trailer? It says,

what's that main question? Oh, who are you when the world ends? Yeah. So it seems like there's some jokes made in the trailer and also on the album of like, He knows how to sing, but he doesn't know how to survive.

When he's found, it's like, he's like, I'm Bandolstone, and the woman is like, I don't know who you are. He tries to sing his songs. And she's pointing a gun at him. Like, okay, what use are you doing right now? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, he can't fish. He can't hunt.

No practical survival skills. These uses. Yeah. Which just, it's so funny. But he, like, he said he had this concept, and I wonder how far it went back then. But he said he had this concept for the movie since community days. Yeah. But in my mind, and I'd be interested to know how it fleshed out the concept was.

Because in my mind, the entire premise of this film, at least what I've gathered from the clues that we have about it is 100% the same exact thoughts that I had when I became a dad, which is, you just, there are certain things you have never thought about until you are responsible for a person. a child's life. And a lot of that comes with just these, like, innate, intrinsic protective, this protective thing that comes out of you that I feel like most fathers that I've talked to experience. And then you realize I identify a little bit with Bando Stone even now or what I know about it because it's like, I've been a creative my entire life, all my skill sets. Like, I'm not handy.

I don't know how to fix anything. I don't know you know if the world but then you but then you relate that that those insecurities or those shortcomings come to foot to

to your attention when you're responsible for a child and you're thinking about all these scenarios in which you might have to protect them and so just even the premise of him

because there is a kid his kid is right is in the film yeah it's legend the is first born I believe yeah so it sounds like Bando is forced

to take on this father kind of position in the film and just yeah i don't know i just really identify with the premise of it so i'm very interested to see how that plays out but that that felt that like there's a lot of dad stuff on the album and i that i 100% relate to and it also reminded me of mr morale to be honest in the same feelings that i got i mean kendricks on the on the cover mr morrell has you know a gun in his waist and he's looking out the window and he's got his child in his arm like the protective fatherly instinct and all the emotions and everything that that kind of forces you to confront it feels like he's someone and that I mean to me that even relates to uh and again I'm

like talking off the cuff here sorry if I'm not making sense but I like yeah yeah we're exploring here but it doesn't that remain like reminds me of the Gilga stuff where it's like he's learning out a that's what I want to ask about yep yeah he's learning out to grow his own fruit he's doing these various things that are very almost primal in a way and they're almost like these survival skills. Very interesting. Like I, again, I relate to all of this. If we think about the amount of success he achieved and the no direct,

like especially after this is America and a headlining national tour arenas and doing all the festivals, like he had gotten music to a extremely high degree and he had a family and he lost his own. Like the how do you provide? What good is that like, it? It makes sense for him to cultivate, like, those skills and to make that farm and build that, like, type of community and those type of, just that thinking, like, providing. Remind me, he lost his father around the time he had his first child, too. So it's a couple years after.

So this is America during that tour. Okay. Yeah. So the first two children, I think, were, like, just born. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like that could even accelerate some of that thinking when your own father has passed.

And it really just now is 100% on you to fulfill that role. There's no one to kind of look towards, you know, it's just you now. So I felt some of that pressure. I felt some of the, well, we should talk about the idea of love now. This might be because that's another thing that really has shown through. The family, the real. And he talked about it in the Zane Low interview. this idea of being sincere.

He talked about sincerity on the being sincere on the album, which it's so interesting in music, especially in hip hop and I don't even want to pigeonhole him to a hip hop artist. But it does, it's hard to make, like you saw it with like chance to rapper. It's really hard to make sincere music within the, within the, I hadn't thought about that yet. You know what I mean? And like it could come off so easily.

as corny. He loves his wife. He loves his wife. He loves his children. And there's lines on here about that. There's songs. It feels like entirely about that kind of. There's a Sesame Street song on this album. The ABCs, that's such a, that song is so good. But yeah, but you also had a thing about love. You see love as a through line in the narrative arc of Childish Gambia. Yeah. So like this was in tandem with like the narrative of perhaps Bando Stone, but Like, people are often going to ask with the Gambino album, like, does this connect to the last one in any way? Do we have, like, how is the childish Gambino character being continued? I think right now that all I can really say is that there's, like, a definite narrative about love.

On camp, we see him, like, betrayed in love in the camp setting. So, like, he's a young boy trying to figure out the world. And he gets hurt in love. And he thinks nobody loves him. That's like a lot of what camp is about, is anger and all those. teenage emotions about that, right? Because of internet, he talks about, like, love is, like, building a safe space for people. He wishes that he could find it with others.

Like, he's in a lot of, like, he's in pain about that, but he has some love experience, right? With Naomi and the boy. Awaken my love. Like, that's when he, like, that's a finding it moment. He finds it in his child and in the family. So that's a big thing. on 31520, which then becomes out of vista, we finally get something that was pretty big for childish Gambino fans

was him saying, I love me, and that there is love in every moment. So, like, finding self-love by that point. And now that Gambino loves himself, we have Bandos Stone where he's like, he's able to love life. He's able to love the world around us, even as it's like crumbling. and like even if like the future world is going to be completely different than whatever we have now he's finding a way to believe and have faith in whatever is next like that that's still going to be lovable right that if again again this is four days after the hour yeah yeah but like

that was what stuck out to me as far as thinking about like a career long narrative yeah and did he specifically say future Island? Is it like Future Island? He said, but that's a band, but I do not think he meant this indie pop band. Like he, he said Future Island like, to me that's like mixing like genre. Right. And futuristic, taking a futuristic take on island music. It's like technology and nature synthesis. Which feels very, that's very present on the album. That's a very apt description. Yeah. But I do think that's interesting that you're, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, take about loving the future world, loving life now, and then allowing that to that to your point,

those are the seeds of growth. Because now's going to end. Yeah. And a natural reaction for us as we get older is like, no, oh, the stuff I love is gone. Right. But like whatever's next, we can also love that. And like finding, like trusting that or having faith in that is really important and very difficult. I find it very difficult.

I know. Right. Many people do. like yeah and like when we look at like the way that Gambino incorporated so many like younger features on the album and some of them are like divisive some people I don't want to but like MRA Chloe flow Millie yeat he has a yeat on this album who sounds great on the song by so good um like fouchet and legend

his own child like all these younger features that's and Childish Gambino's ending it's like we have that but whatever is next like yeah my world is ending the gambino world is ending but i'm gonna love whatever is next look at what is coming next that yeah that's like the features right you so yeah so the features are kind of symbolically embodying the future and him entrusting literally entrusting them their presence on this album as a way to communicate this trust and love in the future world whatever that whatever that is. He used to use this metaphor in interviews of like planting seeds of trees that we will never

see their fruit. This is like, I mean, he's seeing the fruit of these like because he's using them on the album. But this is the idea we have to provide for the future. Like, and he's doing this in all these different ways we've been talking about. Yeah.

Yeah. And then you had a pretty interesting point about like his side quests. Do you want to explain that to the listeners? Oh, like if Childish Gambino's ending, Like the Childish Gambino Pokemon is like learning a new move like it's like we forget the Childish Gambino move Donald Glover is going to like he's going to do other stuff like just because Childish Gambino is over we have Donald Glover like he's going to be making more stuff if there's no music in any of the stuff he makes from now that would be weird like it doesn't like so it feels like childish Gambino's over it's evolving and it's gone but like and that's such a we've talked about this like. That's such a logistically speaking difficult. How many times did Prince try and change his name? Yeah, exactly.

It's so difficult. Yeah, did you ever make sense of the, because like on the 31520, it was Donald Glover presents, right? Yes. But is that the case with Atavista? Is it clear? It's not clear with Atavista. I imagine he was thinking about these things with 31520. Like he had already said

like Childish Campina was ending. He had tried to do it. He was probably trying to transition into something. But like one thing that I do know about 315, 20 is like there were a bunch of plans for that album. Then we had a pandemic and it all changed. So like there was probably something in place. There was probably something that was starting to roll into moving into something else, ushering in a new era.

Right. And now we've basically postponed it till now. in Bandostom. Okay, so we should note that this is going to have a live show like we alluded to, and it does feel things are building towards this thing. He said it was going to be the best show you've ever seen or you get your money back. And he sounded absolutely serious about that. So if it's coming to town, I know the prices are steep,

but it does feel like it's going to be something really special and a conscious experience. it does feel like he's really trying to give us an experience. The live shows have always been excellent. Like he builds more around them. There's going to be like a narrative to the show. There's going to be all these different things. So I'm, I'm be overly, over. Excited is not a word that even comes close to whatever it is.

How many times are you going to see it? Are you going to see it multiple times? I think like two times, three times. Yeah, we'll see. Do you think it'll be a movie, like a film version of it? Don't make me mad. They have film versions. They have to have film versions of all of the tours and they haven't given us any of it.

You're breaking glasses. Okay, so we got to talk about the music more specifically. Yeah. It's hard to do technical breakdowns this early into the, you know, the listening process. But I did have each of us pick our top three. favorite moments so far on the album. We're going to play the clips. We're going to talk about why we love them. And we're going to give you the time codes of each song, Tyler style, which he likes to do it with his album rollouts as fans give their favorite moments of the album with time code. So we're going to honor that tradition here. I'm going to go first and give you my, the first moment. Maybe it must have been first listen. It was the moment that I was like, holy shit. This is it's about midway through the album.

and I was like I said I was kind of like didn't hadn't wrapped my head around things things were shifting and sounds were pivoting and coming in and out and genres were bending and but then we get to the song no excuses when it when it entered no excuses I saw it was like seven minutes and 33 seconds I was like hmm interesting where is this going to go and it did not disappoint because it starts out as like it's definitely in that more like futuristic island bucket And it starts off more or less like, I mean, a great song, but just nothing quote unquote special yet. But then you get like midway through the song and it breaks out into this instrumental. And so at three minutes and five seconds, we hear this piano riff, beautiful, gorgeous piano riff, back by strings and a choir.

And this song was produced by, in part, Luke Vig Gorton. And I think this is his, this feels like him, his moment. So let's listen to that. Okay, so obviously just such lush, beautiful. Like you're saying he was going for lush on this album. I feel like this is one of the most luscious. Is that a word? A luscious moment?

Luscious, yeah. One of the more luscious moments on the album. But then we get a saxophone that comes in over this already beautiful production. And it's played by Kamaucie Washington, which I didn't know. I should have known when I first heard it because it was awesome. And then, of course, is Kamasi Washington. He's probably the best saxophone player on Earth right now, or at least makes the best music as a saxophone player,

as a jazz saxophonist. Go listen to his albums are great from L.A. He's on to Pimp a Butterfly. So he comes in at 3 minutes and 46 seconds. And then after his sax kind of solo stops, there's like a quote-unquote beat switch. It's not really a beat switch because the tempo doesn't change and the groove doesn't change,

but just more instruments are added. And it's like such a moment. And we just hit this groove for the entire rest of the song. And it's just, it's beautiful. The thing about this song is that like, this is one of the few words credited. Like he has his entire band that has been,

most of this band has been within for more than a decade at this point. Like the musicality on the song, like everyone's credited. He's got everybody, like, and then you have Kamasi Washington. and Ludwig and like, oh my God. How is it, how do you get all these names on once? Like, I don't know. Yeah, it's so good.

The strings, the strings on this album in general, which I think my next clip is going to even have more of, are all, I'm pretty sure they're all done by Ludwig, who has just, have, has become such a master of orchestration over the past decade. They are so good. And they're paired with the most, not odd, but just unusual pairings for strings, uh, which. I'll talk about in my next one, but let's get to your first moment. The first moment I want to talk about is from the lead single. It's from Lithonia, which was an incredible first listen. I got chills all over. It's so good.

He's like, he's pushing his voice like into like breaking and I love it. Like he's doing all these different things. He's got like this heavy texture on his voice for most of the song. And then towards the end, my favorite moments are like, when he's saying my sweet lithonia at like 203. Nobody gives a phone. But like the way that he's got this payoff moment, after all the texture, all the craziness of this track.

And then there's also like the sweetness and like how beautiful his voice can get. Oh, yeah, I love this. And his vocals on this song all the way through are just, I don't just haven't. We've heard moments like that, but to sustain it in an entire song, it feels really, and within this genre that does feel, I don't even know really how to describe it. It's like this pop ballad-ish thing, but also has like rock elements to it. It's like almost MCR. Like it's like, what is you? Yeah. Yeah. And then the video, okay, do you have any sense of what's going on in the video? Yeah, the video, okay. It's crazy. This video is so good.

You are deeply unsettled from the first month, like when you see the sweat and you see how close you are in on his teeth in his mouth and everybody in the band freaking out and sweating and like that woman just like looking looking and then her like do her eyeballs like pop out or something his eyeballs pop out of his his eyes yeah his eyeballs pop out and then she he starts chasing in the way he's running did you notice the way he's running in the background like his arms are like flopping at his side yeah is that gonna is that is this going to make more sense to when we see the film or i don't know this is it is So because of the internet, it is so like the alien theory about those music videos. Do they connect to the film?

Oh, right. Yeah. It is so that all over again. Oh. So. I need to re listen to our season on that album. It's like bringing back all these memories. But yeah, it's very similar.

All these connective tissues that just are left unexplained and up to the listener to make the connections and interact and be one with. art, it's, it's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's freaked to me out. That video freaks me out every time. I've seen it three times every time I have jumped. Like, I know it's coming. It still gets me.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do we think Cote Leret is the real name of Bando? Is that the theory? I think, I would wager it's Bando Stone's birth name. Yeah. Because it sounds like it from the way he's singing on Lothonia. Cody Luray, he had a break.

That would be Bando's. career, I think. And you maybe are theorizing that these more rockish songs might be Bandos songs. Is that your Bandos stone rock.

Rock. Oh yeah. Stone, rock. It's not very developed. Might be something there. It might be. We're working with what we got. And Lithonia is the is near Stone Mountain Georgia. It's where Donald is from. It's also like the name

Lithonia means town of rock or town of stone, I think. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. I think there's something there. I don't know. Right. Yeah. All right. So my next top moment is on the song Cruzen, which has the Yeet feature

and it's such a weird song in the best way. Like I've just never heard anything like this song, especially where it goes at the end. So, I want to play a couple of clips from it. So when we get to Yeats verse, the song kind of morphs to accommodate his sound, what he sounds best over.

So the beat kind of breaks down and it gets like a little bit more darker. So let's hear that. So yeah, it's really great stuff. I really love his feature. It really works for me. and there's like this really cool contrast happening between him and yeat but they also kind of blend together really nicely but then going from yeats verse and the contrast with the final chorus so ludwig

i'm assuming ludwig comes in with these beautiful strings there's a chorus singing the melody and then you have gambino like just absolutely screaming these vocals and then it breaks into this new like the synthesizer riff, like this kind of like arpaciated fast synthesizer riff. Let's hear that moment now because it is one of the best I feel like production wise on the entire album. So just like incredibly impressive. All the sounds, all the layering, all the just interesting choices being made, not only from song to song, but within the song, taking all these twists and turns just from

the production. I haven't even really thought about the words at all yet at this point. I listen to production first. It's like it takes me, it's going to take me a lot to get to the actual words and I'll probably just have to sit down with them at some point. But that was just another moment where it's these odd combinations that just he found a way to work within these multiple genres.

Just such a cool moment. And you know he's saying please help me. Oh, that's where he's screaming. Like that's some of what he's saying is please. And like, that's the end of because of internet. That's please help. that he's doing it again oh right yeah I was freaking out I was freaking out the first time I heard yeah it's incredible yeah all right so what's your next moment my next moment is the next song

we are god this when I saw the tracklist when I listened to this album for the first time I'm like oh okay he's gonna do it he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna do it and then he creates the song That to me feels like the end and end in the narrative. And to me, it felt like it was calling back to a bunch of different childish Gambino moments. And really, when I think about like this is an end childish Gambino experience, like this is the culminating thing. That's what it felt like to me. The basis of the song is that is the We Are chant, which was previously 0.00. road. It was the opening track to

31520. So it was like this meditation thing, like where they just keep chanting, we are, we are. And now that it's been like reborn as this new song where he's like fleshed out these ideas and given us this like incredible ending. There's really like the second

verse to me and just kind of how he finishes it. But like to go from cruising and the please help me, which calls back to like the end of because of internet, though we are we are God. is a reference to things he was saying back then too on Stone Mountain and Kauai and because internet when he said we are becoming God and his idea of like connectedness and

togetherness it feels like the song Stand Tall off Awaken My Love and again it's using the basis of the song from 31520. It's not a specific moment but like the second version to the end the first time I listened to this it was like just the experience was overwhelming like when I got to this and I was like feeling like the simultaneous memory of all those things. Yeah. All these years. Yeah.

It's one of those things that's at this moment definitely beyond my words. Yeah. For me at least. Yeah. Yeah. So this one really clicked when I heard it with headphones. Did you listen with headphones on your first listen? Yeah.

I would suggest more than a car, I feel like this, this album really finds itself in the headphones. at least, because there's a lot of spatial mixing going on. There's a lot of textures that really cut through with headphones more than the car where you can't really make out a lot of the, just a very nuanced details. And We Our God feels like, yeah, it feels more like an experience than a song. It's something you kind of walk into that you become part of or something. And I really felt that with the headphones.

And I can't imagine what this is going to feel like live. Holy shit. Yeah. Like within the, within a crowd. Like, yeah, it's, uh, we are God. Like also just parallels with Kendrick, I will just say, I am, with Kendrick's on I am. I am all of us. The, the unification theme, the, we are God idea.

Like, I feel like they're like on these weird parallel tracks, uh, philosophically. Okay, so my third. What's your third moment? I, I wasn't sure which one to pick to be. honest, I ended up going with Yoshinoa, just because I love the song, I love, you know, I do feel like there is, like, pressure

on Gambino to rap more. Yeah, there was. Yeah. And, like, he gives us enough rapping where I felt content. I wasn't one of those people that wanted to rap. I like him rapping, but he's also so good at everything else that it doesn't really matter. But this one is, like, a true,

well, the closest thing of a true hip-hop song, as you can call on this album, which is defying all these kind of genre limitations. But even within this more quote-unquote hip-hop song where he is rapping throughout the whole thing, just interesting choices, right? Like he finds a flow and a cadence in the first minute of the song. And then at a minute and four, the beat totally cuts off. We get a new sample, which is like a female voice.

I don't know if it's a sample or cut up someone's actual voice that he recorded himself. And so it bridges from this, this. beat that he establishes in the opening, hear the sample, and then all of a sudden, we get these hard boom bat drums, and he starts rhyming right away when the drums come in. And it's such a surprise moment. His voice is distorted, so let's hear that.

Yeah, I mean, it's just like some of the, just, and I love that he's talking shit. Like, I love that. Talking some about his short shorts again? I'm sure you've seen the theories that this is a Drake diss song. Are you buying the theory of this being a Drake diss song for context? I worry that we're too much. Two, we're two primed.

Right, yeah. For the Drake diss. But he also, he does dis him. Yeah, there is clearly some disses for sure. And just for context that people don't know. Gambino did interview somewhat recently with the past couple years about the inspiration behind This Is America? Do you remember what you know was? There's a thing he has said that like when he began making the song, This is America.

So think about like a first draft. He made it as a quote, Drake diss, which to me would be like parody like he's making it to be a little bit like Drake. And then Drake did not like that. Yeah. And the idea of like, This is America. He's Canadian. Like this is all very well established now. And Drake, yeah, Drake did not take kindly to that.

Drake then after that came out on his tour, he had kind of like a ticker on his screen, like ESPN has the ticker scrolling text down below. He had a ticker around the stage, and one of them was something about the overrated. It was overrated. It also took Drake out of number one on the charts. I don't know if you remember that.

This is America like supplanted, I think God's plan. Okay. Yeah. So there is some animosity there, And if you do listen to that song with that in mind, I feel like there are some very clear shots. Which I love coming from Gambino. But yeah, not to make, let's not talk about Drake anymore.

So what's your third moment? The third moment for me, I love the last song on this album, a place where love goes. Yeah, it's crazy. God, it's incredible. And I know in the movie this is going to be cool. Like, it's the kid. And it feels like

Bando's bag that he's carrying in the trailer. People have identified this. It's a bag made by a company specifically to hold a recording device. So it's like he keeps that musical device on him. Even in the apocalypse, which is crazy. But if I'm going to guess that it's like Bando showing the kid how to make music, make whatever you want, right?

And that's why, so the kid's like, we don't care about the part. So it's going to be good in the movie. I can, like, I see it already. And I love the hook. we don't care about the party, we just want to dance. But at the, I want to play this moment, and then I'll say what you should listen for, I guess. But it's at zero minutes and 27 seconds to 32 seconds. So we have the hook, we have the we don't care about the party, we just want to dance.

And then there's laughter. Like, I didn't catch it on my first time, but like when you hear the laugh, like, that's got to be legend, probably. laughing, having fun, making the song, like thinking about that moment. Yeah. Like a, yeah. That is incredibly endearing. Yeah.

Well, it's even interesting within like the thing that you pointed out about Gambino or Glover's work, where it's this interaction of character artist, I guess. So it's Bando, Gambino, Glover, and the interaction between them. And then we have his real life son, who is also a character in the movie. Played by bandos. And also now an artist. Right.

He's legend. So it's just like that and as the conclusive moment, that does feel very conclusive on the album. And talking about the future. Yeah. Talking about the future. This is the literal future. This is the literal seed. It really feels like it's like tying things together.

And there's really like a way that we can't really articulate at this moment, but feels like something important. and as the last quote unquote Gambino song, which technically, right, this is the last, from him, from him, yeah. So this, yeah,

so if this is, if this is really the last Gambino song on the last Gambino album, it has that love thread that, literally a place where love goes, it ends here, ends with the future. Like it feels very conclusive. Yeah.

That's, yeah. We got to, yeah, we got to dig in more. We got to figure this out. All right. beautiful moment.

That song's going to go fucking crazy live. Yes. Imagine that song live. Oh my God. Oh my God. So a lot of these songs are just going to be insane live. My understanding.

The prodigy, the prodigy sample song. Is that got to, that's got to be, right? Yeah, that's got to be. That's going to be insane live.

Yeah. Anyways. What were you saying? I was going to say like my understanding is from people at the New York performance was that Like upon hearing this legend was there. Like Donald's family was there.

And him and his mom and they were just having the best time. Yeah. Like. Yeah. This is amazing. And I'll just say as a dad, like I just 100% get where he's coming from. I get the kind of all the things he's been saying in interviews where it's like, I've got a family to raise.

I'm not really worried about all this other stuff that I've been worried about in the past. I'm really just focusing on my family, the love of my family, the seeds that I've, that I'll be, that'll be blossoming in the world, the future. And you really do understand the importance of, of that of your kids being your greatest contribution to the world because it is the future who then they control the next generation. And it is this like unifying thing that you really just feel when you have children. And it really does isolate you. in some ways to the rest of the world, in a positive way, I feel like. Like, I do feel like we all should be prioritizing our children more than anything else. And that pays dividends to the future, right? Again, Kendrick essentially ends Mr. Morrell

on the same exact type of thing. Not to keep talking about it, Kendrick and then Drake, but the year of Kendrick and Drake 2024. Yeah. So, yeah, I feel good. Even talking through this episode, I'm just more in love with this album. There's so much to explore. Oh, it's going to be a great year.

It's the best. We're going to come together on our year end, annual year end favorite music of the year podcast, which I'm sure we'll talk about this album a little bit more then and probably have more of the concepts fleshed out. So we can look forward to that. But that does transition us, unless you had anything else on Band of Stone. That was an excellent transition, Cole. Yes, you like that. I'm getting better at this hosting thing.

So we're going to transition into our favorite three albums of the year so far. We're not going to talk crazy in detail. We just wanted to give you guys some recommendations that you might have not have checked out yet and that we're really loving so far. So why don't you give one of your picks first? All right. So my first pick would be Bando Stone and the new work. Of course.

Yeah. Yeah, no. We got two Childish Gambino albums in one year. I don't know how I'm going to do this top three. I know. Yeah. We might have to. I might have to.

I'll figure something out. Yeah. One I wanted to talk about for real McGee's album, two star and the dream police. Okay. It is like the indie alternative rock type of thing. He's a collaborator with Dijon, which we've talked before on end of the year, pods. It's an excellent album. guitar work on the album and the song Elise's in particular I'm like this might that was my

favorite song before the Childers Campino songs came out okay that was my favorite song so we should say the his name is mk.g.g.e. mk.g.e. mk.gegege. mckee. mckee. Okay. Yeah. All right I've never even heard of this artist so I'm excited to listen. I didn't listen to it before so I'm definitely going to check it out. I'm I'm going to go with the obvious one. I'm going to go Brat. Yeah. Charlie X.X.

This album is so good. It's so good. It's so fun. It's like it's getting a lot of praise, but I think for the right reason, you know, it's, uh, it's just a blast. And it is. In particular, the remix of The Girl So Confused with Lord is one of the best songs I've heard in a long time. If you're not familiar, I get, I don't even, I haven't even, I haven't even, done a full deep dive on it in terms of the backstory, but it sounds like there was tension

between Charlie and Lord, and they essentially like worked it out on this song. It's working out on the remix. On the remix of this song. Yeah. But it goes perfectly with this idea, like it's exploring all these insecurities that some women feel and they really just like, especially Lord lays it all out where she's talking about how their relationship was tainted from her own insecurities of. of her own kind of body issues that she was dealing with and not wanting to go out in public and

all these things that, I don't know, it was just such a crystallization of interpersonal relationships worked out through a song. I just thought it was so inventive and I've never heard a song like that and you really feel the authenticity of these words coming through. So, but the whole album's great, super fun. My kids love it. It's just a great and it's, you know, it's innovative, but poppy and it hits all the marks that I feel like at a critically acclaimed but successful popular album should hit so check out Brat

if you haven't already Yeah, it's so I love that one It is fun The other album that I would want to talk about right now That's Not Gambino Would be Mika's Laundry by Matt Champion This is a member of Brock Hampton Who made music that doesn't sound anything

like the way he sounded on Brockhampton. But it is, it's again, it's very, he also has Dijon on this album. This was like my whole beginning of my year. It was the McGee album and Nica's Laundrie by Matt Champion. It was these two albums was like, most of the beginning of my year were like, it's a really good songs. He's like trying a bunch of weird stuff. He's sounding, he doesn't have like a good singing voice.

I love that. Like, I love that album. It's so inventive and different and he's just being weird. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Another album I have not checked out yet, so I definitely will. Okay, the next one I'll go for is schoolboy cue, blue lips.

Man, I gotta shake this shit, wake up, move with a purpose. Been a prisoner in my own house. I don't know if they notice. I don't broke down so many times. Next time I'm going to catch me. I don't helped out so many people. They took me for granted. I don't lost down so much.

So this was my early contender for album of the year. We'll see if it makes it to the end of the year as that. I don't think it will, but it's a great album. I mean, talk about someone that's continually evolving, not putting out a ton of work, but when he does, it's important. And he feel the evolution from album to album. A lot of experimentation on blue lips. A lot of just in the same way,

we were talking about Bando and also Mr. Moral. You know, Scoobloy Q is a dad now and he doesn't, you know, he has obviously has some like braggadocious stuff on it, but it's kind of mixed really well with some more sentimental stuff where you are feeling a genuine evolution in the person and their life and, you know, expressing that in their music,

which is authentic and you really feel that. So I just was, yeah, it's something I've returned to more than a lot of the albums that I've listened to this year. incredibly well done, well produced, well thought out. You know, a lot of people's favorite album of the year so far and for good reason. So do you have another one? No, my last one. I mean, look, it's odd that like, like,

Dark Times of Vin Staples was great. I really like the Clero album. But Child just came to put out two albums, Cole. Child just can be put out two albums. What else am I going to talk about? That's how I, yeah, I feel like I, like, I haven't listened to the Dark Times yet. I haven't listened to, like, the new Rhapsody. there's a few albums that I've just been waiting because I wanted to give it the full attention.

I just haven't had that yet. There's been, obviously, there's some really good songs on Dark Times. Like, I really do like that album. I heard great things, and I just don't want to disrespect it by kind of just putting it on passing. Right, it makes sense. Because I've been listening to a lot of outcast for last song standing, and I've been listening to a lot of Kendrick.

The whole Kendrick beef kind of put me in this weird music warp for this year, where that's all that's kind of paying attention to for about a month or two. So I just haven't had the chance to listen to some of these albums that are getting some acclaim. So I'm definitely going to definitely going to listen to Dark Times.

I need to check out Rapids'D's new one. I haven't spent that much time with no worries yet. The new No Worries project. Yeah. Like what? Yeah. There's a few that I've just been saving. So all that to say my list is not

maybe as thought out or expanses as I wanted to be at this moment. But I will say, if I'm being honest, which I try to be on these things we don't trust you by Metro and Future it's definitely one of my most listened to albums

although I only listen to like five songs but I've played those five songs like countless times in my car Yeah I'm gonna putt I told his heaters need nigger in a freezer I'm big as a beat her

fuck on a diva I'm hot than a fever put dope on one liters most stripes in a deal I got deregola Yeah so I'm trying to be true to what I've actually listened to so I'm definitely not saying

that's like my album of the year by any means. But if I'm trying to say true, I have been listening to that a lot. And I also will shout out Lupe Fiasco's new album, Samurai. If you just want to boom bap, insane lyricism and flow and concept, go listen to Samurai.

If you like Lupe Fiasco, I think it's like one of his best works in a long time. But we will return to our favorite albums. We'll come back, yeah. We'll give our official rankings at the end of the year like we always do. In December, yeah thanks thanks uh for joining me this was really good thanks cole this was man we got to talk about chalice gambito i'm just so impressed man i mean i just can you imagine if this was a clunker

no i can't no we're not not but not now you can't all my fears all of every nightmares i had i mean everything that he's put out is great but there's you know he's doing a lot he's very busy he's got a family he's got all these creative endeavors there's a world in which This album's just not that great. That's true. And he really came through with maybe my favorite Childish Campina album of all of them. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, yeah.

I think it's definitely the most well produced. I think hands down. Like, what? I'm in shock. But yeah. Beyond what? Beyond what? Because the internet is extremely well produced.

A week in my love is extremely well. It is, but it feels like Child's Play converted this album in my mind, in my mind. See, now I want, and I'm going to have to hear about why that is. more and more. We got time. I mean, it's the same people doing it better. Yeah, that's true.

They all got better. Anyways, all right, thanks, Cam. We'll talk to you soon.